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           GOOD EVENING. 
          I'D LIKE TO OFFICIALLY CALL 
          [CALL TO ORDER]
THIS MEETING TO ORDER AT 6:00 PM AT THIS POINT, WE'LL ASK, ARE THERE ANY VISITORS OR ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS? I THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          NO CARDS IN ADVANCE OF, UH, THE 5:00 PM DEADLINE. 
          AND IT LOOKS LIKE NO VISITORS. 
          VISITORS. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          WE'LL 
          [B. REVIEW AND DISCUSS FISCAL YEAR 2023-2024 BUDGET FOR OPERATIONS, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, AND DEBT SERVICE]
GO ON TO ITEM B, REVIEW AND DISCUSS PHYSICAL YEAR 20 23, 24 BUDGET FOR OPERATIONS, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS AND DEBT SERVICES. 
          MR. MAGNER. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          MAYOR COUNCIL, UH, WE ARE EXCITED TONIGHT TO START, UH, THE, UH, PUBLIC DELIBERATION PART OF OUR BUDGET DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. 
          WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW OUR, UH, STAFF HERE HAS BEEN VERY BUSY, UH, FOR MONTHS NOW, GETTING US TO THIS POINT. 
          AND BEFORE WE DO GET INTO THAT, I JUST WANT TO PUBLICLY ACKNOWLEDGE, UH, OUR BUDGET OFFICE, BOB KLEIER AND KARA COPLEY, UH, AS WELL AS, UH, CHARLES GOFF FROM OUR OFFICE, MCKAYLA DOLLER, KENT FILE, KEITH DAGAN. 
          UM, JUST A, A SLEW OF FOLKS BEHIND THE SCENES AS WELL. 
          UM, AS YOU'LL, AS WE'LL TALK ABOUT, THIS IS REALLY A, A CITYWIDE EFFORT. 
          UH, THAT'S AN ONGOING EFFORT EACH YEAR. 
          UH, JUST AS A LITTLE BIT OF A ROADMAP FOR TONIGHT AND EVEN FOR TOMORROW NIGHT, I JUST WANNA, UH, SHARE KIND OF, UH, HOW WE PLAN TO APPROACH, UM, AFTER WE TALK ABOUT THAT BUDGET PROCESS, WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE GOALS FOR THIS WORKSHOP, UH, TONIGHT. 
          UH, THEN I WANT TO JUST FOR A SECOND, UH, FOCUS ON SOME, UH, ECONOMIC FACTORS THAT HAVE REALLY BEEN ON OUR MINDS. 
          UH, YOU WATCH THE NEWS LIKE, LIKE WE DO. 
          AND, UH, MUCH OF WHAT WE'VE DONE TONIGHT HAS BEEN, UH, IN CONSIDERATION OF, UM, AND, UH, VERY THOUGHTFULLY, UH, TRYING TO PREPARE FOR WHAT, UM, MOST OF THE ANALYSTS SAY, UH, IS, IS GOING TO LIKELY OCCUR THE REMAINDER OF THIS YEAR, NINE INTO NEXT YEAR. 
          AND SO WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT AND TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE LOCAL IMPACTS THAT WE SEE, UH, AS A RESULT OF THOSE ECONOMIC FACTORS. 
          THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT SOME GENERAL FUND HIGHLIGHTS. 
          UH, I'LL, UH, COVER SOME KEY FOCUS AREAS AND SOME ORGANIZATIONAL CHANGES THAT I WANNA SHARE WITH YOU, UH, THAT I BELIEVE ARE, UH, RESPONSIVE TO NOT ONLY SOME RECENT THINGS THAT HAVE OCCURRED, BUT, UH, THAT WILL PREPARE THE ORGANIZATION, UH, THE BEST WAY POSSIBLE TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN THE FUTURE, UH, AS OUR WORK PLAN CONTINUES TO EVOLVE, UM, SOMETIMES UNEXPECTEDLY LIKE AFTER FIRES. 
          UM, WE'LL TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE KEY PROGRAMS AND SERVICES, UH, THAT WE PLAN TO CONTINUE AND ENHANCE. 
          UH, THEN I'LL TURN IT OVER TO BOB, UH, KLA MEYER, WHO'S GONNA RUN THROUGH, UH, AN OVERVIEW OF, UH, THE OPERATING, UM, UH, FUNDS. 
          UH, TONIGHT WE'RE GONNA FOCUS ON THE GENERAL FUND. 
          TOMORROW WE'LL FOCUS ON THE REMAINING, UM, UH, ENTERPRISE FUNDS. 
          AND THEN IMPORTANTLY, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT SOME PROPERTY TAX CONSIDERATIONS. 
          UH, MAYOR, UH, COUNCIL, UH, TWICE. 
          UH, NOW, UM, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT HAVING THIS CONVERSATION, UH, TO, UH, IDENTIFY SOME OF THE, UH, RELIEF OPTIONS, UM, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, OR EQUALLY IMPORTANTLY, I SHOULD SAY, UH, TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE CONSEQUENCES ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE OPTIONS. 
          UM, AND SO WE'LL HAVE THAT DISCUSSION. 
          THEN WE'LL CLOSE ON THE DEBT, UH, A LITTLE BIT OF, UM, A PREVIEW OF TOMORROW NIGHT. 
          BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, THROUGHOUT THIS ENTIRE NIGHT, WHAT WE ARE HERE TO DO IS TO HEAR FROM YOU. 
          UM, WE'RE HOPING THERE'S HIGH ALIGNMENT. 
          UM, UM, UH, WE, WE HEAR YOU, UH, ALL YEAR LONG. 
          WE USE YOUR GOALS AND YOUR STRATEGIES THAT HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED AS CALIBRATION. 
          UM, AND YOU'VE HEARD FROM US IN, UH, WHAT AMOUNTS TO ABOUT EIGHT HOURS IF YOU THROW IN THE WATER DISTRICT IN DART EIGHT HOURS OF DEEP DIVES TO THIS POINT. 
          SO, FOR ANYBODY THINKING THIS IS THE START OF THE PUBLIC, UH, CONVERSATION, THEY HAVEN'T BEEN WATCHING IN JUNE AND JULY, UH, 'CAUSE THEY WOULD KNOW IT'S AN AWFUL LOT OF TIME THAT YOU'VE ALREADY INVESTED IN HEARING FROM OUR STAFF AND LEARNING ABOUT, UH, OUR PROGRESS TO DATE ON THIS YEAR'S WORK PLAN, AS WELL AS OUR, OUR FUTURE TOMORROW NIGHT. 
          AS I MENTIONED, UH, WE'LL LOOK AT THOSE, UH, THE OTHER OPERATING FUNDS, THE WATER FUND, THE DRAINAGE FUND, SOLID WASTE, UH, GOLF FUND, HOTEL, MOTEL FUND. 
          THESE FUNDS WITH THE GENERAL FUND RECALL MAKE UP ABOUT 80% OF OUR TOTAL BUDGET. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHY WE FOCUS SO MUCH ON, ON THESE FUNDS. 
          UH, WE WILL, UH, FINISH THE NIGHT WITH A LITTLE BIT OF A RECAP OF THE, UH, FEES THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING AS THEY KIND OF, UH, ARE, ARE EVIDENT, UM, ACROSS THE DIFFERENT FUNDS. 
          SO WE'LL SUM THOSE UP, UH, AND THEN WE WILL, UH, HAVE SOME CLOSING THOUGHTS. 
          AND, UH, AND AGAIN, UM, SO AS WE GO FORWARD TONIGHT, WE HOPE THIS IS A DIALOGUE. 
          UM, UH, AND, AND YOU, YOU, UH, GO AHEAD AND INTERJECT AND LET US KNOW AS, AS YOU HAVE QUESTIONS SO WE CAN BE RESPONSIVE TO THOSE. 
          UM, EACH YEAR, OBVIOUSLY, OUR, OUR FISCAL YEAR, BEGINNING ON OCTOBER 1ST, EACH YEAR, UM, WE BEGIN WITH THAT IMPLEMENTATION AND WE BEGIN WITH THE CLOSEOUT, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, IN THE FOURTH QUARTER, USUALLY IN THAT FIRST OR SECOND WEEK IN DECEMBER, BOB COMES AND CLOSE OUT THAT PREVIOUS YEAR. 
          UM, AND THEN WE GET RIGHT INTO JANUARY WHERE WE REALLY START SETTING SOME BUDGET EXPECTATIONS, UM, FOR OUR DE UH, UH, DEPARTMENTS. 
          AND, UH, BOB'S, UH, AND KARA ARE QUICK TO WORK ON THE REVENUE ASSUMPTIONS, UH, BEING FORMULATED FOR THAT YEAR. 
          AND THEN IMPORTANTLY, WE HAVE A CITYWIDE MEETING IN MARCH WHERE WE NOT ONLY BRING IN OUR LEADERSHIP, WE BRING IN THOSE THAT'LL BE WORKING, UM, ON THE BUDGETS, ON THE FRONT LINES, AND WE HELP THEM UNDERSTAND OUR, OUR EXPECTATIONS. 
          WE HELP THEM UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH, AND WHERE WE ARE IN THE IMPLEMENTATION OF YOUR GOALS. 
          AND, UM, AND, UH, YOUR 
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STRATEGIES. 
          IN MAY AND JUNE, WE REALLY BEGAN TO RECEIVE SOME IN IMPORTANT INFORMATION FROM THE APPRAISAL DISTRICTS. 
          WE'RE CALLED, WHERE BOTH DALLAS CALL, UH, DALLAS COUNTY AND DAL COLLIN COUNTY. 
          AND SO WE WORK WITH BOTH APPRAISAL DISTRICTS WHEN WE RECEIVE THAT PRELIMINARY, UH, VALUES. 
          AND, UH, THAT REALLY STARTS TO HELP US BETTER UNDERSTAND WHERE WE'RE AT FROM A REVENUE STANDPOINT OR WHERE WE, WHERE WE'LL BE HEADED. 
          AND THAT'S WHEN CHARLES AND, AND THE BUDGET TEAM REALLY GET INTO THE BUDGET MEETINGS. 
          UM, I WOULD ESTIMATE THAT THEY PROBABLY SPEND THE EQUIVALENT OF ABOUT TWO FULL WEEKS, UH, IN BUDGET MEETINGS WITH EACH OF THE DEPARTMENTS. 
          UM, AT THE SAME TIME, WE'RE DOING THE DEEP DIVES THAT I MENTIONED FOR YOU, THAT ALL CULMINATES, UH, WITH THE, THE KICKOFF OF THE, UH, PUBLIC CONSIDERATION OF THE BUDGET, UM, UH, WITH TONIGHT'S WORKSHOP. 
          UM, IMPORTANTLY, WE ANTICIPATE TOMORROW RECEIVING, UM, UH, THE CERTIFIED ROLE. 
          NOW, I'LL REMIND YOU THAT WHEN WE RECEIVE THAT CERTIFIED ROLE, THERE'S STILL ABOUT SEVEN TO 10 DAYS OF GOOD WORK THAT HAS TO OCCUR. 
          REMEMBER, WE'VE GOT THE TWO ROLES THAT HAVE TO BE COMBINED. 
          WE HAVE TO FACTOR IN THE TIFF, THERE ARE OTHER CALCULATIONS. 
          AND SO, UH, BY, UH, THE LOG AUGUST 11TH DEADLINE, WHEN, UH, WHEN I'LL FILE THE BUDGET, UH, THE FINANCE TEAM WORKING WITH BUDGET WILL HAVE THOSE NUMBERS FINALIZED. 
          AND, UH, REALLY ALLOW ME TO KIND OF, UM, IN BE BE MORE IN INFORMED ABOUT, UH, WHAT, UH, WHAT BUDGET, UH, WE WANT TO, UH, FILE, UH, IN LIGHT OF THOSE REVENUE NUMBERS. 
          UM, YOU CAN SEE HERE IN EARLY AUGUST, AS YOU WELL KNOW, UH, AFTER I PRESENT YOU THE BUDGET, THERE'LL BE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS, ONE ON THE TAX RATE, AND ONE, UH, ON THE BUDGET ITSELF. 
          AND THEN, UH, WE'LL LOOK TO, UH, HAVE THE, THE ADOPTION OF THE BU BUDGET, UM, IN, UH, LATE AUGUST. 
          AND THEN, UH, GET READY FOR IMPLEMENTATION ON OCTOBER 1ST. 
          AGAIN, IT'S VERY CYCLICAL. 
          UH, YOU CAN ALMOST SET YOUR WATCH TO IT, UH, THE RHYTHM OF THE BUDGET DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. 
          BUT IT'S IMPORTANT, I THINK, FOR FOLKS THAT, UH, MAYBE TUNING IN FOR THE FIRST TIME OR MAYBE COME TO ONE OF THE PUBLIC HEARINGS TO REALLY UNDERSTAND AND APPRECIATE ALL OF THE WORK THAT GOES INTO THIS, UH, BY THE, BY OUR TEAM AND, AND ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENTS. 
          WITH RESPECT TO THE GOALS FOR TONIGHT, WHAT WE REALLY HOPE TO DO IS TO, I LAY OUT FOR YOU OUR OVERALL STRATEGY, UM, AND, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, THE RATIONALE IN WHICH THAT STRATEGY IS BUILT, UM, AND BUILDING ON, OF COURSE, THE DEEP DIVES THAT WE'VE, UH, PRESENTED TO YOU PREVIOUSLY. 
          UH, THE KEY GOAL FOR THE WORKSHOP IS REALLY TO PROVIDE YOU, AS I MENTIONED, THAT OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE US WITH FEEDBACK. 
          SO WHEN I FILE, FILE THE BUDGET, UH, WE ARE AS HIGHLY ALIGNED AS AS POSSIBLE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ACHIEVING AND POSITIONING, UH, OUR STAFF MOVING FORWARD TO, TO WORK ON YOUR GOALS AND ON YOUR STRATEGIES. 
          UM, I MENTIONED THAT THE KEY, UH, FOCUS WILL BE THE OPERATING FUNDS AND ENTERPRISE FUNDS THAT I MENTIONED, BECAUSE THAT DOES ACCOUNT FOR ABOUT 80% OF THE BUDGET. 
          BUT WHEN WE FILE THE BUDGET ON AUGUST 11TH, WE'LL HAVE, UM, A, ALL OF THE, UH, FUNDS WILL BE REPRESENTED IN THAT BUDGET. 
          UM, AND, UH, OF COURSE WE CAN, UH, WE CAN ADDRESS THOSE, ANY QUESTIONS WITH THOSE AT THAT TIME. 
          SO, AS WE BEGIN TO KIND OF LOOK AT THE FACTORS THAT, UH, THAT, THAT I MENTIONED, WE'VE GOT HERE ABOUT A, ABOUT EIGHT OR NINE KIND OF ECONOMIC HEADLINES. 
          AND IF YOU LOOK, THESE ARE ALL VERY RELEVANT OR VERY RECENT HEADLINES. 
          IF I COULD SUM THESE UP, THERE'S KIND OF FIVE THINGS THAT I WOULD SAY THAT HAVE REALLY INFORMED, UH, AT A HIGH LEVEL WHAT WE'VE, UH, WHAT WE'VE BEEN, UH, LOOKING AT. 
          AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT RECESSION, AND WE'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT IT THAT'S COMING IN. 
          AND REALITY, OUR ECONOMY, THE US ECONOMY IS REALLY STILL EXPANDED OVER THE FIRST, UH, SIX MONTHS OF THIS YEAR, BETWEEN ABOUT A HALF, ONE AND A HALF AND, AND 2%, UH, ON AN ANNUALIZED PACE. 
          UM, NOW BUSINESS, UH, SENTIMENT HAS BEEN A LITTLE DOWN, THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT. 
          AND, AND BUSINESS INVESTMENT, PARTICULARLY IN THINGS LIKE INVENTORY AND EQUIPMENT, HAS ALSO SLOWED, AND ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS LOOK AT SOME OF THE ECONOMIC INDICATORS TO SEE THAT. 
          BUT CONSUMER SPENDING HAS PROVIDED KIND OF THE OFFSET TO THAT. 
          NOW, THERE'S A LOT OF TALK OUT THERE ABOUT WHEN THINGS LIKE STUDENT LOANS HAVE TO BE, START BEING REPAID, AND THAT SOME OF THAT CONSUMER SPENDING, THAT DISCRETIONARY SPENDING IN PARTICULARLY, COULD REALLY DRY UP, AND WE COULD SEE POTENTIALLY IN THE SECOND HALF OF THIS YEAR, UM, A MILD RECESSION BY THE END OF THAT YEAR. 
          SO THAT'S ON OUR MIND. 
          UM, THE INTEREST RATES SO MANY DIFFERENT RESPECTS, AND I'VE GOT A SLIDE HERE I'LL SHOW YOU JUST IN A SECOND, JUST TO DEMONSTRATE HOW BOTH, AND FOR THE INDIVIDUAL, FOR THE BUSINESS AND EVEN FOR THE CITY, HOW THAT'S REALLY PLAYED AN IMPACT. 
          BUT, UH, UM, AS YOU WELL KNOW, THE FEDS HAVE HAVE RAISED THE RATES ALMOST 500 BASIS POINTS SINCE MARCH OF 2022. 
          NOW SHOOTING FOR A GOAL BETWEEN SAY, FIVE AND, AND FIVE AND A QUARTER, UH, JUST TODAY THEY MET, UM, AGAIN, THE FED OPEN MARKET COMMITTEE MET TOMORROW. 
          UH, THEY, THEY, THEY CLOSE AT THEIR MEETING AND THEY'RE ANTICIPATING PROBABLY ANOTHER 25 BASIS POINT HIKE, UH, TO GET IT TO THAT 5 25 5 5 0.5 RANGE. 
          NOW, THE GOOD NEWS IS, IS ALMOST ALL THE ANALYSTS BELIEVE THAT THAT'S WHERE IT'LL STAY. 
          THEY BELIEVE THAT THAT'LL BE THE LAST INCREASE. 
          UM, BUT THIS IS THE FAST HIKING, THE FASTEST HIKING CYCLE, UM, THAT MOST OF THE ANALYSTS CAN REMEMBER IN, IN DECADES. 
          AND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S JUST BEEN, UH, INCREDIBLY IMPACTFUL ON SO MANY DIFFERENT, UH, AS ASPECTS OF OUR ECONOMY AND, UH, IN, IN PARTICULARLY INFLATION, UH, WHICH IT'S TRYING TO CONTROL. 
          UH, THE GOOD NEWS IS IT'S, IT'S GRADUALLY IMPROVING, BUT, UH, STILL MOST ATLANTA IS, LET'S SAY THAT IT'S GOING TO, UM, STAY ELEVATED, UH, IN MANY AREAS. 
          UM, UM, MOST ANALYSTS ARE SAYING THAT THE GRADUAL IMPROVEMENT, UH, IN INFLATION WILL PROBABLY TAKE ALL THE WAY UNTIL LATE 2024. 
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SO, WHERE THAT IT, IT GETS BACK TO WHERE THE FEDS ARE TRYING TO GET THE TARGET OF ABOUT 2% INFLATION, AND THAT'S WHEN WE MIGHT START SEEING SOME OF, UM, OF THE, UH, RATES COME DOWN. 
          UH, OVERALL, THE, THE BOTTLENECKS AND THE SUPPLY SHY, UH, SUPPLY SUPPLY CHAIN HAVE BEEN, UH, CORRECTED. 
          UM, IN PARTICULAR, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, COMMODITY INPUTS, SEMICONDUCTOR CHIPS, UH, AND COMPONENTS HAVE, HAVE REALLY IMPROVED A GREAT DEAL. 
          UM, IT'S TAKEN A LITTLE BIT FOR THAT TO TRICKLE THROUGH, UH, THE SUPPLY CHAIN. 
          UM, BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS, IS THAT THAT BOTTLENECK, THE ORIGINAL ISSUE IS, HAS SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN RESOLVED. 
          AND THEN, OF COURSE, SOMETHING THAT'S ON ALL OF OUR MIND IS THE COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE CHALLENGES. 
          UM, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK MOST ANALYSTS ARE SAYING, AND, AND REALLY RICHARDSON IS A, IS A PRIME EXAMPLE OF THIS WHEN YOU LOOK AT HOW MANY SQUARE FEET OF, UH, CLASS, UH, A BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, THAT CLASS B THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TODAY, THAT THE, THE CHALLENGES COULD INTENSIFY IN THE COMING QUARTERS, UM, AS, UH, LEASES COME TO COME TO AN END AND, UH, UH, YOU HAVE TO GO OUT AND YOU HAVE TO GET NEW EQUITY TO BE ABLE TO KIND OF REFINANCE THOSE BUILDINGS UNDER NEW TERMS. UH, AND IF YOU TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION A LOT OF THE EQUITY, PARTICULARLY WITH SOME OF THE REGIONAL BANKS, HAS BEEN SLOW, UM, TO, UH, TO BE RESPONSIVE, PARTICULARLY IN THE COMMERCIAL REALM. 
          IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO BE VERY MINDFUL OF IT, IT COULD VERY MUCH IMPACT PROPERTY VALUES IN THE COMING YEARS, AND WE REALLY NEED TO KEEP THAT AS A PART OF OUR, UM, AS A PART OF OUR UNDERSTANDING, AS IN OUR BUDGETING PRACTICES. 
          THE FIVE, UH, AREAS HERE THAT I, I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT, WE'LL GO THROUGH JUST A SLIDE OR TWO ON EACH OF THESE, BUT LET'S START WITH, START WITH THE INTEREST RATES. 
          AND THIS IS A GREAT SLIDE THAT, THAT THE TEAM PUT TOGETHER. 
          IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE INCREASES HERE, WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT, JUST LOOK AT THE 98 ATT BILL. 
          UM, ALMOST FIVE POINT INCREASE IN, IN THE TWO YEARS. 
          UH, SAME WITH THE TREASURY, ALMOST A, A DOUBLE, UH, MORE THAN DOUBLE INCREASE. 
          UH, LOOK AT OUR 20 YEAR CO, UH, WITH AAA BOND RATING, NOW PAYING TWICE AS MUCH AS WE WERE JUST TWO YEARS AGO. 
          AND SO, UM, THIS IS IMPACTING NOT ONLY INVESTMENT IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR, IT'S IMPACTING OUR ABILITY TO DO PROJECTS. 
          WE'VE TALKED TO YOU ABOUT COST ESCALATION, EACH OF THE, UH, PAST DEEP DIVES THAT WE'VE DONE AND THE IMPACTS THAT THAT'S HAVING ON OUR ABILITY TO, UH, JUST GET SOME OF THE SUPPLIES AND MATERIALS THAT, THAT WE NEED. 
          UH, BUT THEN IT'S ALSO THE COST OF, UM, THE CAPITAL AS WELL. 
          AND SO THIS IS A BIG IMPACT, UH, SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY, UH, WE'RE SEEING TRICKLE THROUGH. 
          UM, AND, AND THAT HAS, UH, THE, THE ABILITY TO REALLY, UH, IMPACT THE CONSUMER PRICE INDEX, WHICH IS OF COURSE, THE MEASURE OF THE AVERAGE CHANGE OVER TIME. 
          THE PRICE IS PAID BY CONSUMERS FOR, YOU KNOW, MARKET, UH, UH, WHAT THEY GENERALLY HAVE A BA, YOU KNOW, A MARKET BASKET OF CONSUMER GOODS. 
          NOW, THE, THE INTERESTING THING ON THIS LINE IS ACTUALLY, IF YOU TAKE OUT, UM, WHAT IS, UH, COMMONLY REFERRED TO AS THE FOOD AND ENERGY, ENERGY HAS ACTUALLY BEEN A BIG HELP IN, IN, IN, IN THE LAST YEAR AS ENERGY PRICES HAVE DECREASED. 
          BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE INCREASE, THE, THE AVERAGE INCREASE, UH, MONTH TO MONTH, UM, WE'RE STILL OVER 6%. 
          UH, ALL OF, UH, SINCE MAY OF 22, WE'RE STILL OVER 6%. 
          UM, AND THIS IS AN IMPACT, UM, THAT WE REALLY NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF, UM, PARTICULARLY IN CONJUNCTION WITH SOME OF THESE OTHERS. 
          UH, IN TERMS OF LOCAL IMPACTS, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS, BUT JUST AS A REMINDER TO YOU, OUR, OUR, OUR, UH, FIRE ENGINES, UH, I MEAN, THE AMBULANCE THAT WE'RE ORDERING THIS YEAR ARE 23, ALMOST 24% MORE COSTLY THAN JUST ONE YEAR AGO. 
          UM, YOU SEE THE TAHOES ARE STANDARD ISSUE, TAHOES ALMOST 36%. 
          AND, UH, PUMPER TRUCKS, WHICH YOU DON'T BUY MANY OF, BUT OVER 22% HIGHER THAN LAST YEAR. 
          IT'S NOT JUST THE BIG ITEMS. IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE SMALLER THINGS WE DO, YOU SEE EQUALLY LARGE INCREASES, UH, IN, IN PERCENT. 
          UM, IF YOU JUST GO BACK TO AND LOOK AT PRE COVID, I D UH, SOME OF THESE INCREASES ARE OVER 200%. 
          UM, YOU THINK COMING OUT OF A LOT OF THE ISSUES THAT WERE CREATED DURING, DURING THE PANDEMIC AND WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH TODAY, JUST COMPARED TO JUST A FEW, UH, UH, YEARS AGO, AGAIN, I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL THESE, BUT YOU SEE, IT'S, IT'S LARGE AND SMALL. 
          IT LITERALLY IMPACTS EVERY DEPARTMENT. 
          UH, IT'S THINGS THAT WE USE ONCE BECAUSE THERE'S SPECIALTY ITEMS, OR IT'S THINGS LIKE PIPE THAT WE PUT DOWN EVERY DAY, UH, IN HUNDREDS, IF NOT THOUSANDS OF LINEAR FEET OVER THE COURSE OF A YEAR, SEEING INCREASES AS HIGH AS 20, UH, EVEN 50%. 
          UM, TO, TO OUR, UH, BOTTOM LINE. 
          UH, ANOTHER HUGE IMPACT, OF COURSE, IS THE LABOR MARKET. 
          SOME OF THESE I'M GONNA READ JUST BECAUSE I THINK THEY'RE SO, THEY'RE SO, UM, UH, TIMELY POLICE, UH, YOU KNOW, AGENCIES ARE DESPERATE TO HIRE UP AND SAY, IF YOU WANT THE JOB, THIS WAS NOT EVEN 60 DAYS AGO. 
          UM, BUDDING ACCOUNTANTS, GOVERNMENT NEEDS YOU, UH, TWO MONTHS AGO. 
          IT TALKS ABOUT A SHORTAGE OF ACCOUNTANTS AND AUDITORS. 
          UH, WE JUST SAW A LITTLE BIT OF EVIDENCE OF THAT AND EVEN HEARD FROM OUR OWN AUDITORS CROW ON THE ISSUES AND THE CHALLENGES THEY ARE HAVING AT THEIR LEVEL TO BRING IN, UH, UH, FOLKS IN THE FINANCIAL, UH, IN THE FINANCIAL REALM, 56 PER, UH, 56% OF WORKERS SEEKING NEW JOBS. 
          A SURVEY SAYS HIGHER PAY, MORE FLEXIBLE HOURS, AND RO WORKING REMOTELY. 
          SO THIS IS TRULY WANTING YOUR CAKE AND EATING IT TOO, IN TERMS OF WHAT IT IS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, UH, IN YOUR NEW JOB. 
          BUT WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT THAT TO REMAIN COMPETITIVE? UM, 
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THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, THE BEST PRACTICES, UH, UH, YOU SEE THE SOURCE DOWN AT THE BOTTOM HERE. 
          SO 50% OF OUR COMPETITORS, BOTH IN THE PUBLIC REALM AND THEIR PRIVATE REALM, ARE NOW OFFERING MORE FLEXIBLE, UH, FLEXIBILITY. 
          UH, SO PART-TIME, UH, JOBS, FLEXIBLE HOURS, HYBRID, UH, UH, A A COMBINATION OF, OF, UH, WORKING ON SITE AND REMOTE, 33% ARE INCREASING WAGES ACROSS MULTIPLE FIELDS, 33%. 
          LOOKING AT NEW TALENT POOLS, WE ARE DOING THIS, WE'RE STARTING TO GROW OUR OWN IN IMPORTANT REALMS LIKE THE FLEET, UM, AND WATER TECHNICIANS, UH, WATER OPERATORS, UM, 26% OFFERING, UH, JOINING BONUSES, AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE DOING THAT AS WELL. 
          24% PRIORITIZING, UM, AUTOMATION FOR SELECT TASKS AND PROCESSES. 
          THIS IS SOMETHING, A REALM THAT WE REALLY NEED TO FURTHER EXPLORE IN SOME OF THE SMART CITY INITIATIVES. 
          UM, AND THEN 18% REDUCING QUALIFICATION AND REQUIREMENTS. 
          AGAIN, UH, WE'VE STARTED, UM, UM, MENTORING PROGRAMS. WE'VE TAR STARTED, UH, UH, INTERNSHIP PROGRAMS, UH, TO BRING FOLKS IN WHO OTHERWISE WE WOULD'VE REALLY NEVER CONSIDERED PREVIOUSLY, BUT TO REALLY KIND OF GROW OUR OWN. 
          ALL OF THESE ECONOMIC FACTORS, BOTH AT THE, AT THE FEDERAL AND WORLD LEVEL, UH, THE LOCAL IMPACTS, UH, THESE ARE NOT NEW. 
          AND, UH, THESE, THESE DRIVERS, THESE FOCUS AREAS THAT I'M SHARING WITH YOU TODAY ARE THE SAME THAT THEY WERE LAST YEAR. 
          AND IT'S BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, UH, BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA SEE THAT NOT MUCH HAS CHANGED, UNFORTUNATELY, NOT WITHSTANDING SOME VERY STRONG EFFORTS, UH, THAT YOU AUTHORIZED AND APPROVED AND SUPPORTED. 
          UH, WE ARE IN A VERY SIMILAR SITUATION TODAY. 
          THE NUMBER ONE MOST IMPORTANT RESOURCE WE HAVE IS PEOPLE. 
          AND THE PROBLEM IS, IS WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH OF 'EM, UH, TO DO SOME OF OUR CORE MISSIONS. 
          AND SO WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO BE RESPONSIVE TO THAT. 
          AS I LOOKED AT THESE THREE DRIVERS, AGAIN, I REALLY WENT BACK FOR, UH, ALIGNMENT AND RECONCILIATION PURPOSES, AND WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY NOT, NOT ONLY RESPONSIVE TO THE ECONOMIC FACTORS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, BUT YOUR GOALS, YOUR STRATEGIES, THE FEEDBACK THAT YOU GAVE US THROUGH THE DEEP DIVES, OF COURSE, UM, MY ONGOING ORGANIZATIONAL ASSESSMENT AND A NUMBER OF THE CHANGES THAT I'LL TALK ABOUT ARE NOT ONLY RESPONSIVE, UH, TO, UH, NEEDS THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED. 
          I THINK THEY'LL HELP US BE MORE EFFICIENT. 
          OF COURSE, THE BOARDS AND COMMISSION INPUT, WE VALUE THAT VERY MUCH OUR PARTNERS. 
          THEN IN TERMS OF OUR, UH, COMMUNITY PARTNERS LIKE, UH, HOMEOWNER NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, OUR INSTITUTIONAL PARTNERS, UH, THE ISDS, UH, UH, UT DALLAS, UM, SOME OF OUR VOL, OUR, UH, NON-PROFIT PARTNERS, UH, OUR BUSINESS AND DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, UH, WE HEAR A LOT FROM THEM. 
          VARIETY OF, OF, OF WAYS, UM, PARTICULARLY ON THE TAX FRONT. 
          UM, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF ADOPTIVE PLANS AND SPECIAL INITIATIVES, OUR A T P, OUR PARKS, UH, MASTER PLAN, UH, OUR ARTS, UH, MASTER PLAN, ALL INFORMING, AND THEN CITY ASSESSMENTS AND EX EXTERNAL ASSESSMENTS THAT WE PARTICIPATE IN WITH PARTNERS LIKE TXDOT, ALL DRIVING, UH, THE MAIN FOCUS OF THIS BUDGET THAT YOU'LL SEE. 
          SO LET'S TALK JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT LABOR AND ABOUT THE TALENT POOL. 
          SO THIS IS FROM THE US CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, ABOUT ABOUT 65 DAYS OR SO AGO. 
          SO WE HAVE 91 AVAILABLE WORKERS HERE IN TEXAS FOR EVERY 100 OPEN JOBS THAT, THAT WE HAVE. 
          AND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S INTERESTINGLY HOW MUCH THAT ALIGNS WITH OUR ATTRITION OR OUR VACANCY RATES OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS. 
          SO ABOUT 91 WORKERS FOR EVERY A HUNDRED JOBS. 
          IF YOU LOOK AT THIS CHART, THERE ARE THREE THINGS GOING ON HERE. 
          THE FIRST ONE JUST SAYS THAT IF YOU LOOK, LOOK AT THE DARK BLUE, YOU'VE GOT CORRECTION OFFICERS, ENGINEERS, NURSES, POLICE, UH, IT EMPLOYEES, AND MAINTENANCE WORKERS. 
          SO OUT OF THE SIX, FIVE OF THE SIX, YOU'LL FIND ON OUR HARDEST TO FILL POSITIONS, 85%, FOR INSTANCE, ARE CORRECTION OFFICERS. 
          85% OF THE TIME, THERE ARE FEWER QUALIFIED APPLICANTS THAN THERE ARE AVAILABLE POSITIONS. 
          83 FOR ENGINEERS, 77, POLICE 74 AND AND 70 FOR IT. 
          AND MAINTENANCE HELPERS, UH, MAINTENANCE WORKERS. 
          THE, THE BOTTOM. 
          IN THE PAST YEAR, HOW OFTEN DID YOU DID AN INSUFFICIENT NUMBER OF QUALIFIED APPLICANTS REQUIRE RECRUITMENTS TO BE REOPENED? IF YOU SEE THERE, UH, IF YOU JUST TAKE THE VERY FREQUENTLY AND THE SOMEWHAT FREQUENTLY, UM, YOU'RE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT OVER 50% OF THE TIME THEY HAD, YOU HAD, UH, JOBS WERE BEING POSTED, CLOSED, AND THEN REOPENED BECAUSE QUALIFIED APPLICANTS DIDN'T PARTICIPATE IN THE RECRUITMENT. 
          AND THEN THE PAST YEAR, WHAT CHANGE HAVE YOU SEEN IN THE TIME TO HIRE AGAIN, 36% OF THE RESPONDENTS ARE SAYING IT'S TAKEN LONGER TO HIRE QUALIFIED PEOPLE FOR THE JOB. 
          ALL ALL IMPORTANT NUMBERS. 
          SO I SHARED THIS CHART WITH YOU LAST YEAR, AND WE COMPARED 2022 TO 2019, WE'VE ACTUALLY GONE UP, UH, IN OUR VACANCY RATE JUST SLIGHTLY. 
          WE'VE GONE UP IN THE NUMBER OF POSITIONS. 
          WE'VE GONE IN THE NUMBER OF STAFF, BUT WE STILL HAVE 101 POSITIONS THAT ARE VACANT TODAY. 
          UM, AS, AS A RESULT OF, UH, UH, UNFREEZING, IF YOU WILL, RESTORING SOME OF THE POSITIONS WE HAD FROZEN DURING THE COVID PERIOD, YOU MIGHT SAY, WELL, WHERE ARE THOSE? WHERE THEY'RE IN THE SAME AREAS OF FOCUS THAT THEY WERE LAST YEAR? IF YOU LOOK AT OUR PUBLIC SERVICES DIVISION, LOOK AT SEWER COLLECTION, UM, LOOK AT BABIC, UM, LOOK AT, UH, THE, UM, THE WATER OPERATIONS AND WATER PRODUCTION. 
          THESE ARE MANUAL JOBS THAT REQUIRE A LOT OF SKILL, PARTICULARLY THE WATER, UH, PRODUCTION, WATER OPERATIONS, AND THE SEWER COLLECTION. 
          SO THESE ARE FOLKS THAT, THEY'RE NOT JUST LABORERS, THEY'RE FOLKS THAT WE HAVE TO BRING ON AND WE HAVE TO PROVIDE THEM 
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WITH THE TRAINING TO BE ABLE TO WATER OUR, UH, OPERATE OUR DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM AND OUR COLLECTION SYSTEM. 
          BUT YOU SEE, VERY HIGH VACANCIES. 
          LOOK AT POLICE AGAIN, AND I'M GONNA, WE'RE GONNA DO A DEEP DIVE IN POLICE IN JUST A SECOND 'CAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT TO DISSECT THAT. 
          BUT 11.1% OF THE JOBS AND THIS POLICE DEPARTMENT ARE VACANT, UH, AS OF TODAY, A BUILDING INSPECTION, STILL HAVING TO USE EXTERNAL SERVICES BECAUSE WE HAVE ALMOST A QUARTER OF THE JOBS IN BUILDING INSPECTION VACANT, NOT UNLIKE, UM, UH, ENGINEERING, PARTICULARLY IF YOU LOOK AT THE FACILITIES AND YOU LOOK AT THE ENGINEERING, NOT THE CUSTODIAL SERVICES SO MUCH, YOU'VE GOT, UH, 23% OF OUR FACILITY JOBS. 
          SO THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ABLE TO WORK ON THE TRADES. 
          THEY'RE PEOPLE THAT ARE ABLE TO, TO COME IN AND, UM, WORK ON ELECTRICAL, MECHANICAL, AND PLUMBING SYSTEMS. ALMOST A QUARTER OF THOSE JOBS VACANT TODAY. 
          IF YOU LOOK AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, UM, IN SOME RESPECTS, IT, IT, WE HAVE IMPROVED, BUT IN MANY, WE HAVE NOT. 
          UH, 32% OF OUR 9 1 1 FULL-TIME, 9 1 1 DISPATCHER JOBS TODAY ARE VACANT. 
          AND THAT IS WITH A $10,000 SIGN-ON BONUS IN PLACE IN A LATERAL PROGRAM THAT WILL ALLOW SOMEONE TO MOVE FROM ANOTHER CITY AND NOT LOSE A DOLLAR OF PAY. 
          UM, THAT'S AN AGGRESSIVE APPROACH. 
          UH, NOT TO MENTION THE NUMEROUS OTHER, OTHER BENEFITS, UH, THAT WE'RE OFFERING. 
          WE STILL HAVE A 32% VACANCY DETENTION OFFICER, ALMOST 19% POLICE OFFICER. 
          11 OUT OF 137 POSITIONS ARE VACANT, AND WE'VE, UH, CHIEF TITTLE HAS TALKED TO YOU ABOUT THE SERGEANT POSITION, UM, AND THE TENURE, UM, THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. 
          UM, SO WHAT'S GOING ON? WE'RE WE'VE ENHANCED RECRUITING DOLLARS, WE'VE ENHANCED BENEFITS, WE'VE IN INCREASED PAY, WE ARE BEING AGGRESSIVE TO TRY TO FILL THESE POSITIONS. 
          LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF APPLICANTS THAT WE'RE GETTING, AND AGAIN, GETTING BACK TO THE FACT THAT FOR EVERY A HUNDRED JOBS IN, IN, IN TEXAS, THERE'S ONLY 91 APPLICANTS. 
          UM, AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE, UH, SOME OF THE JOBS THAT I MENTIONED THERE, THE, THE FLEET TECHNICIANS, FOUR APPLICATIONS FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR, UH, MAINTENANCE HELPER, 122 COMPARED TO 212 LAST YEAR. 
          UH, THE NINE ONE ONE CALL TAKERS 200 COMPARED TO 2 62 LAST YEAR, 2 78 POLICE OFFICERS. 
          WHY IS THAT THE CASE? YES, SIR. 
          LET ME ADD ONE THING, DONNIE, IT'S A GREAT PRESENTATION. 
          I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT THE COUNCIL PROBABLY IS NOT AWARE OF THIS, AND I KNOW THE PUBLIC ISN'T WITHIN THE LAST MONTH OR SO. 
          I'VE HAD THE GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH, UM, CHRIS HILL, OUR COUNTY JUDGE, AND THIS IS A REGIONAL ISSUE, AND IT'S NOT JUST A CITY OF RICHARDSON ISSUE. 
          AND PART OF THE THINGS IN BRAINSTORMING THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THAT I'D LIKE TO SHARE IS THAT DON HAS SHARED WITH YOU ALL THE THINGS THAT HE HAS DONE AND HIS STAFF HAS DONE, WHETHER IT'S SIGNING BONUSES, SO FORTH, SO ON. 
          WE'RE NOW LOOKING AT A WAY REGIONALLY TO TRY AND BRING IN A JOB FAIR FOR POLICE OFFICERS AND BRING 'EM ALL IN AND HAVE MULTIPLE CITIES SITTING THERE SO THAT WE WOULD HAVE MULTIPLE PEOPLE TO DRAW FROM AND SHARING THE EXPENSES OF TRYING TO HAVE THIS JOB FAIR AND WHERE IT COULD BE ALMOST SIGN THE DOTTED LINE WHILE YOU'RE THERE, BUT FOCUSING ON EXISTING OFFICERS FROM OTHER CITIES, OTHER STATES, THAT TYPE THING. 
          SO JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THAT REGIONALLY PEOPLE ARE VERY ACTIVE. 
          THIS IS AN ALARMING SITUATION, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT, UH, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT. 
          AND SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH EVERYONE BECAUSE IT'S NOT A, A SINGLE ITEM FOR JUST RICHARDSON. 
          IT'S, BUT WE'RE WORKING ON IT TOGETHER COLLECTIVELY WITHIN THE REGION, TRYING TO ADDRESS IT. 
          OKAY. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          YOU COULDN'T HAVE MADE THAT POINT AT A BETTER TIME. 
          UM, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, UM, I DID, UH, SUNDAY MORNING. 
          SO YESTERDAY MORNING I WENT, UH, ON LINKEDIN AND EVERY ONE OF THESE POSITIONS ARE, UH, A POSITION OF AN ADJACENT CITY. 
          AND EVERY ONE OF THESE POSITIONS WERE POSTED WITHIN THE LAST FOUR DAYS. 
          YOU'LL SEE, UH, THE, THE CITY OF GARLAND TALKING ABOUT A POLICE OFFICERS WITH A $10,000 SIGN-ON BONUS, THE CITY OF DALLAS, TALKING ABOUT A WHOLE RECRUITMENT, UH, UH, UH, PROCESS. 
          THE CITY OF PLANO, UM, UH, HALEY HELPED ME EARLIER TODAY. 
          SO ON OUR, OUR CITIES THAT WE COMPARE OURSELVES TO, HALEY WENT ON THE WEBSITES OF ALL THOSE CITIES. 
          AND THERE ARE OVER 700 MUNICIPAL JOBS, UH, THAT ARE CURRENTLY POSTED ON THOSE WEBSITES OF JUST OUR, THE 12 CITIES THAT WE COMPARE OURSELVES TO HERE IN NORTH TEXAS, OVER 700, SOME OF THEM THE HARDEST TO FILL POSITIONS LIKE THE PUB, THE PUBLIC SAFETY, UH, POSITIONS, AS WELL AS THE MAINTENANCE POSITIONS. 
          THE COMPETITIVENESS OF NORTH TEXAS IS ONE OF OUR SECRET SAUCES. 
          WE ARE SO FORTUNATE THAT WE LIVE IN A REGION THAT IS, THIS HAS THIS KIND OF A ROBUST ECONOMY, BUT SOMETIMES IT CAN ALSO BE AN IMPEDIMENT TO, TO US. 
          AND IN THIS CASE RIGHT NOW, TALENT CONTINUES TO BE A HUGE ISSUE FOR US. 
          AND SO, UH, MAYOR, THAT WAS A, A, A TIMELY POINT TO MAKE. 
          UH, THIS IS, TO ME, IS JUST INDICATIVE OF WHAT EVERY APPLICANT OUT THERE TODAY HAS NUMEROUS CHOICES, IF NOT, YOU KNOW, 
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A DOZEN CHOICES AS THEY LOOK FOR EMPLOYMENT IN NORTH TEXAS. 
          AND IT'S NOT JUST IN THE PRIVATE, UH, THE PUBLIC SECTOR. 
          THIS IS, UH, INFORMATION THAT OUR, UH, HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT PULLED DOWN OFF OF INDEED, UH, AGAIN, JUST AS, JUST AS, UH, UH, UH, RELEVANT JUST AS, UH, NEW IN TERMS OF, UH, TIMING, BUT THE SKILL SETS THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR IN THESE PRIVATE SECTOR DRIVES ARE EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED. 
          C D L DRIVERS ARE, UH, MOST IMPOSSIBLE TO COME BY RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, ONE, JUST THE NEW REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN OBTAINING THE C D L LICENSE, UM, AND, UH, HOW SOME, THE UPFRONT COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. 
          UM, BUT WE'RE COMPETING AGAINST. 
          YOU CAN SEE WHAT'S THE, WHAT YOU SEE THERE ON THE TOP IS OUR SALARY, OUR STARTING IN, IN, IN MAXIMUM RANGE. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE THE POSTED RANGE OF SOME OF THESE JOBS, UH, IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR. 
          UH, AND IT'S VERY UNCOMPETITIVE RIGHT NOW IN TERMS OF HOW WE'RE, WE'RE DEALING WITH, UM, UM, THE PRIVATE SECTOR. 
          AND, AND HONESTLY, UH, WE, FRANKLY, WE'VE LOST MANY OF OUR SOLID WASTE DRIVERS, UM, UH, UH, TO, TO THE PRIVATE SECTOR AS WELL AS SOME OF OUR HEAVY EQUIPMENT OPERATORS IN WATER WASTEWATER AND OTHERS. 
          WHAT ARE WE DOING? WE'RE NOT BY ANY MEANS SITTING BACK AND JUST, JUST SAYING, THIS IS THE SITUATION. 
          I BELIEVE WITH YOUR SUPPORT, WE'VE BEEN VERY AGGRESSIVE. 
          WE JUST NEED TO CONTINUE THAT. 
          UH, HOW HAVE WE BEEN AGGRESSIVE? WE'VE DONE THE MARKET ADJUSTMENTS IN 2022 AND 20 23, 20 23 LAST YEAR, BEING VERY, VERY COMPETITIVE. 
          UH, WE'VE ADJUSTED THE LIVING WAGE TO MATCH THE DALLAS COUNTY, UM, UH, NUMBER OF 1782. 
          UH, WE ALLE ALLEVIATED MANY OF THE SALARY COMPRESSION ISSUES, SO THAT AS WE WERE ABLE TO BRING IN SOME OF THE LOWEST PAID WORKERS, THE FRONTLINE WORKERS WERE ABLE TO BRING THEM IN AT HIGHER THAN THE MINIMUM, UH, SALARY WITHOUT CREATING COMPRESSION WITH FOLKS THAT HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A YEAR OR TWO YEARS AND THREE YEARS. 
          AND WE DID THAT WITH YOUR SUPPORT. 
          UH, WE INCREASED AUTO ALLOWANCES FOR THE POSITIONS LIKE BUILDING INSPECTORS AND CONSTRUCTION INSPECTORS THAT ARE REQUIRED TO DRIVE THEIR OWN VEHICLES TO, TO FULFILL THEIR JOB DUTIES. 
          UH, WE'VE ADJUSTED VACATION LEAVE, UH, ACCRUALS FOR, FOR NEW HIRES SO THAT THEY HAVE THAT AS A BENEFIT. 
          UH, PARKS HAS BEEN VERY CREATIVE AND, AND REIMBURSING, UH, UH, FOR LIFEGUARD CERTIFICATION TRAINING. 
          UH, I MENTIONED TO YOU LAST YEAR, WE IMPLEMENTED A TELECOMMUTING POLICY, UM, THAT ALLOWS, UM, WITH THE DIRECTOR'S APPROVAL FOR CERTAIN PROFESSIONAL TYPE, UH, JOBS, UH, TO WORK FROM HOME. 
          ONE OF THE MAIN ISSUES WITH THIS IS PROBABLY CLOSE TO 70% OF OUR JOBS. 
          THERE IS NO TELECOMMUTING, UH, OPTION. 
          YOU CAN'T REPAIR, YOU KNOW, A WATERLINE FROM HOME OR YOU CAN'T PATROL FROM HOME. 
          AND SO IT'S A, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF AN INEQUITABLE SITUATION. 
          WE HAVE THE FOUR TENS. 
          UH, WE HAVE NOT INCREASED MEDICAL, UH, INSURANCE PREMIUMS, AND WE WILL NOT DO THAT AGAIN, BUT WE HAVE IN TRIED TO INCREASE SOME OF THE CONTRIBUTIONS, UH, FOR THE HEALTH SAVINGS ACCOUNT. 
          AND, AND OTHER, UM, BENEFITS ASSOCIATED WITH THE PLAN. 
          IMPROVED THAT WE CREATED THE LATERAL ENTRY PROGRAM FOR POLICE AND FIRE AND NOW 9 1 1 AND DETENTION OFFICERS, SO THAT, UH, FOLKS IN OTHER CITIES WHO WANT TO COME TO WORK FOR RICHARDSON DON'T HAVE TO TAKE A STEP BACK IN THEIR CAREER IN THEIR PAY. 
          THEY CAN MAKE THAT TRANSITION LATERALLY WITHOUT ANY, UH, ISSUES. 
          UM, WE HAVE, UH, IMPLEMENTED INCREASED REFERRAL INCENTIVES, I BELIEVE, UM, IF WE DO A GOOD JOB HERE, OUR BEST RECRUITERS SHOULD BE THE THOUSAND AND 80 PEOPLE THAT WORK HERE. 
          AND SO WE WANT THEM TO GO OUT AND WE WANT THEM TO RECRUIT ON OUR BEHALF, AND WE WANNA REWARD THEM FOR THAT WHEN IT WORKS. 
          WE'VE CREATED JOB FAIRS, UH, AS THE MAYOR MENTIONED, AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO PARTICIPATE IN JOB FAIRS IN THE FUTURE WITH ON THE SPOT HIRING PROCESSES. 
          THIS IS, THIS IS NEW FOR US, AND I MENTIONED THE CDLS BECAUSE TRYING TO REDUCE THAT BARRIER, WE'RE NOW PAYING FOR THE COST OF THAT PERSON, UH, TO OBTAIN THAT. 
          C D L. 
          WHERE, WHERE DO WE STAND AS OF TODAY? UM, WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT PUBLIC SAFETY AND SOME NON-PUBLIC SAFETY POSITIONS. 
          UM, OB OBVIOUSLY OUR GOAL, UH, WE ASPIRE TO BE IN THE TOP FOUR OF THE 13 CITIES THAT WE COMPARE TO. 
          UH, WHEN YOU ADOPTED YOUR BUDGET LAST YEAR, WE WERE, AND IN MANY CASES, WE HAD CREATED A LITTLE CUSHION, IF YOU WILL, IF YOU RECALL, BY DOING THE 6% LAST YEAR, THE MARKET ADJUSTMENTS, WE WERE ABLE TO CREATE POSITION. 
          WELL, AS, AS HAPPENS, OTHER CITIES HAVE HAVE MADE THEIR CHANGES. 
          AND CURRENTLY TODAY, IF YOU LOOK, UM, AT THE MINIMUM RANKS, WE'RE ANYWHERE FROM, UH, FIVE TO NINE, UH, IN THE POLICE OFFICER RANKS, OR ANYWHERE FROM SEVEN TO 10 IN A MINIMUM AT THE MAXIMUM. 
          WE'VE LOST A LITTLE BIT MORE GROUND, BUT I WANT, I WANT TO THANK YOU, AND I WANT TO, UH, TELL YOU HOW IMPORTANT THE LITTLE EXTRA, UM, THAT WE DID LAST YEAR BECAUSE, UH, WAS, BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE WOULD BE SITTING NOT JUST 11TH, OUTTA 13TH, BUT LOOK AT THAT. 
          WE'RE ONLY 2% OUT OF BEING BACK UP. 
          SO WE HAVE CREATED COMPRESSION. 
          WE HAVE MADE, STARTED TO CHIP AWAY AT SOME OF THE LARGER DELTAS THAT WE HAD, UM, IN PRIOR YEARS BY GOING A LITTLE BIT STRONGER. 
          AND YOU'RE GONNA SEE THAT THAT'S THE PLAN AGAIN THIS YEAR WITH YOUR SUPPORT. 
          UM, UH, AS YOU SEE ON THE MAXIMUM THERE, ANYWHERE FROM UH, FOUR FOR DRIVING ENGINEER, UH, ALL THE WAY UP TO, AGAIN, 11 RANK ON THE FIRE, LOOK AT OUR GENERAL EMPLOYEE SURVEY. 
          A LITTLE NOT AS, NOT AS GOOD A STORY IN, IN, IN, IN, IN MANY RESPECTS. 
          UH, ON THE MINIMUM PAY FOR POSITIONS, LIKE SOME OF THE HARDEST TO FILL FLEET TECHNICIANS, EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO FILL IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR AS WELL. 
          TALK TO ANYONE WHO WORKS AT A, A, A, UH, AUTO DEALER 
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RIGHT NOW, AND THEY WILL TELL YOU, UH, TECHNICIANS ARE JUST, UH, VERY, VERY DIFFICULT TO FIND. 
          THE MAINTENANCE TECHNICIAN AGAIN. 
          UM, CONSTRUCTION INSPECTORS, UH, 9 1 1 DISPATCHERS. 
          UM, YOU CAN SEE ALL OUT OF THE TOP FOUR THERE ON THE MINIMUM. 
          AND THEN YOU CAN SEE EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE POSITIONS OUT OF THE TOP FOUR, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO THE MAXIMUM SALARY, SOME AS MUCH AS, UH, NINE, 9.8, 12.8, 9.4, 11.4, 10.5% BELOW THE FOURTH RANK. 
          UM, SO, UM, UM, WE'LL COME BACK TO THAT IN JUST A SECOND. 
          ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE THINGS I'M MOST PROUD OF IS THIS LIVING WAGE. 
          UM, THE LIVING WAGE THIS YEAR IS 1825. 
          THAT'S UP FROM 1782, BUT NOT NEAR THE JUMP THAT WE SAW THE PRIOR YEAR FROM ABOUT $15 ALL THE WAY UP TO THE 1782. 
          SO A MUCH MORE MANAGEABLE STRATEGY THIS YEAR. 
          RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT 97 FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES, UM, THAT ARE BELOW THAT 1824, BECAUSE THEY'RE STILL AT THE 1782, SO ABOUT 7.5%. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE 131 PART-TIME EMPLOYEES THAT ARE BELOW THAT 1824 AT THAT 1782. 
          SO I WANNA BE REAL MINDFUL OF THAT. 
          SO ALL OF THAT LEADS ME TO MY RECOMMENDATION TO YOU, UH, FOR A COMPENSATION ADJUSTMENT. 
          SO LAST YEAR WE RECOMMENDED A, A MERIT BASE MARKET ADJUSTMENT OF 6% ACROSS THE BOARD WITH STEPS FOR PUBLIC SAFETY THIS YEAR. 
          UM, I'M RECON I'M RECOMMENDING A 5%. 
          UH, AND MUCH OF MUCH OF THAT RECOMMENDATION IS BASED ON THE MARKET ANALYSIS THAT WE'VE DONE. 
          UH, WHAT, FOR INSTANCE, THE STATE OF TEXAS HAS ANNOUNCED IT'S GOING TO DO. 
          WE HIRE A LOT OF THE SAME TYPES OF POSITIONS, THE STATE OF PARTICULARLY IN ENGINEERING AND CONSTRUCTION INSPECTION, UM, AND MAINTENANCE HELPER WORKERS FOR STREETS AND WATER AND WASTEWATER. 
          UM, THE STATE OF TEXAS HAS COME OUT AND SAID 5%, 5%, AS YOU'LL SEE IN A SECOND, DOES HELP WITH A LOT OF THESE MARKET ISSUES, PARTICULARLY IN PUBLIC SAFETY. 
          UH, NOT SO MUCH IN, IN, IN THE PRIVATE REALM, BUT IT, AGAIN, IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A MULTI-YEAR VIEW THAT WE'RE TAKING TO THESE, AND IT WILL HAVE TO BE A CONSISTENT MULTI-YEAR VIEW TO STAY, UM, TO STAY COMPETITIVE. 
          SO, UH, YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE COST, UH, FOR POLICE SWORN, UH, FOR THE 5% PAY ADJUSTMENT IS AS WELL AS THE 169, UM, AND 61 CIVILIAN POSITIONS THAT WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR A STEP. 
          THE SAME TRUE, UH, FOR THE 5% PAY FOR FIREFIGHTERS, AS WELL AS THE STEPS. 
          UM, AGAIN, SO A VERY SIMILAR STRATEGY TO LAST YEAR, JUST SAY 5% INSTEAD OF A 6% FOR GENERAL EMPLOYEES, WE'RE LOOKING AT A 5%, UH, PAY ADJUSTMENT AS WELL, AS WELL AS, UM, IF WE APPLY THAT 5% PAY ADJUSTMENT TO, UM, UH, OUR LIVING WAGE EMPLOYEES, WE WILL ACTUALLY TAKE THEM TO 1871 AN HOUR. 
          SO WE'LL BE NEARLY 50 CENTS MORE THAN THE LIVING WAGE OF THAT 1824. 
          I WANNA SUGGEST THAT IT'S WORTH DOING THAT, NOT JUST MOVING TO THE 1824 TO PROVIDE THEM WITH THAT SAME 5%, UH, MARKET ADJUSTMENT, AGAIN, BASED ON MERIT THAT EVERY OTHER EMPLOYEE, AND LET'S GET AHEAD. 
          LET'S NOT JUST DO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO. 
          AND THESE ARE THE, THESE ARE THE MAINTENANCE HELPERS, THESE ARE THE CUSTODIANS, THESE ARE THE FOLKS THAT ARE ON THE FRONT LINES DOING THE HARD WORK DAY IN AND DAY OUT. 
          AND I THINK IF WE TAKE THIS APPROACH AND WE'RE ABLE TO, UH, JUST, IF IT'S EVEN JUST 47 CENTS ABOVE THAT, UH, MINIMUM, UH, LIVING WAGE, UM, I THINK THAT'S A WORTHY CAUSE. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE THERE $306,000 TO DO THAT FOR THOSE FRONTLINE EMPLOYEES. 
          A TOTAL RECOMMENDED, UH, ADJUSTMENT, UM, FOR ALL OF THE DIFFERENT AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE DESCRIBED THERE AS THAT $5.1 MILLION. 
          SO WHAT WOULD THAT DO FOR US? IF YOU GO BACK AND YOU LOOK AT THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMPARISONS, IT POSITIONS US EXTREMELY WELL, BUT NOT JUST GETTING US TO THE FOURTH RINK, AGAIN, PRO, PRO, UH, PROVIDING US WITH THAT BUFFER OR THAT CUSHION, UM, THAT WILL HELP US ABSORB AND BE MORE COMPETITIVE AFTER THE OTHER CITIES MAKE THEIR MOVE. 
          SO YOU CAN SEE HERE, UH, UH, TWO OF, OF, OF, UM, A RANKED TWO FOR POLICE OFFICER, LIEUTENANT CAPTAIN AT THE MINIMUM, FOUR FOR THE SERGEANT. 
          UM, THE, THE FIVE, UM, RANKED FIVE OF 13 THERE, BUT JUST 0.8% OUT OF FOURTH RANK. 
          AND YOU MAY SAY, WELL, WHY WOULDN'T YOU JUST TWEAK THAT, THAT 0.8 SO THAT YOU COULD BE IN, IT'S MORE OF AN INTERNAL EQUITY ISSUE. 
          SO AS YOU LOOK AT THE TOP OUT SALARY FOR A POLICE OFFICER OR, UM, IN THIS CASE A SERGEANT, AND AS THAT ROLLS INTO A LIEUTENANT, THERE'S A DESIRED GAP BETWEEN THOSE TWO. 
          IT HAS TO BE WORTHWHILE FOR THAT PERSON TO PROMOTE UP. 
          AND THERE'S A STRUCTURE TO THE PAY PLAN. 
          UM, I, I DON'T THINK MUCH LIKE THE FIRE CAPTAIN ON THE, THE 1.1% DELTA, THAT ONE INSTANCE I DON'T THINK, UM, IS, IS THAT CONSEQUENTIAL AS, AS WE LOOK AT THE OVERALL GOOD THAT THIS, UH, THAT THIS, UH, ADJUSTMENT WOULD DO, HOW DOES IT, UH, COMPARE TO JUST A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO? UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE STARTING SALARY OR THE MINIMUM AND THE MAXIMUM FOR A FIREFIGHTER BACK IN FY 2021, AND YOU CAN SEE TO TODAY WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE LAST FEW YEARS IS MAKING A DIFFERENCE. 
          IT'S A 16 OR ALMOST A 17% INCREASE ON THE MINIMUM, A 19% INCREASE ON THE MAXIMUM OVER THAT TIME. 
          IF YOU LOOK AT PD, IT'S AN 18% INCREASE ON THE MINIMUM OVER A 20% INCREASE ON THE MAXIMUM, UH, MAKING US VERY, UH, COMPETITIVE, UH, IN THE MARKET. 
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IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, WHAT THAT, THAT, WHAT THAT 5% WOULD DO, UH, FOR SOME OF OUR GENERAL EMPLOYEES, YOU SEE, IT REALLY DOES IMPROVE, UH, A LOT OF THE SITUATIONS. 
          UH, WHAT YOU SEE THERE IS THE UNDER THE PERCENT CORE MINIMUM ABOVE THE RANK FOUR, ANYTIME YOU SEE A DASH, THAT MEANS WE'RE STILL BELOW THAT MINIMUM, BUT IT'S STARTING TO MOVE THE DELTA A LITTLE BIT. 
          IT'S STARTING TO ACTUALLY CREATE SOME HEADWAY FOR US TO BE, UH, UH, ABOVE THE FOURTH POSITION. 
          AND THEN THE POSITIONS THAT I FEEL ARE MOST IMPORTANT CUSTODIANS, WE NEED TO BE STRONGER THERE, SOLID WASTE DRIVERS, LOADERS, UH, MAINTENANCE HELPERS, UH, MAINTENANCE HELPER TWOS, THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL TEST TECHNICIANS, ALL OF THESE ARE, ARE, ARE FRONTLINE POSITIONS THAT REALLY DESERVE OUR ATTENTION, UH, LIKE THE PUBLIC SAFETY, UH, UH, REALM DO. 
          AND THIS, THIS PAY PLAN RECOMMENDATION, UH, REALLY DOES HELP THAT. 
          THERE ARE A COUPLE OTHER THINGS I WANTED TO, UH, RECOMMEND TO YOU. 
          UM, THIS NUMBER IS, IS MIND BOGGLING TO ME. 
          WE CURRENTLY HAVE 169 FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES WITH LESS THAN ONE YEAR EXPERIENCE. 
          SO IF TODAY WE CAN MAGICALLY FILL THE OTHER 101 POSITIONS, WE WOULD HAVE 270 OF OUR 1070 EMPLOYEES WITH ONE YEAR OR LESS EXPERIENCE AT THE CITY OF RICHARDSON. 
          IT'S THAT, THAT IS DRIVING ME TO WANT TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO HELP KEEP SOME OF OUR MORE TENURED EMPLOYEES. 
          UH, WE HAVE A THING CALLED LONGEVITY HERE. 
          IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A LONGEVITY REWARD. 
          UH, SINCE THE INCEPTION OF OUR CIVIL SERVICE RULES, AN EMPLOYEE WAS ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE $4 PER MONTH OR $48 PER YEAR, UM, UH, FOR EVERY YEAR THAT THEY WERE HERE. 
          UH, IT'S NEVER BEEN CHANGED, IT'S NEVER BEEN ADJUSTED. 
          THERE'S A CAP ON IT. 
          SO ONCE YOU HIT 25 YEARS, THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL BENEFIT. 
          SO ONCE, IF YOU'RE HERE 30 YEARS, YOU'RE 35 YEARS, UM, IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN YOU'RE HERE 25 YEARS. 
          WHAT I'D LIKE TO SUGGEST TO YOU AS A STRATEGY, NOT ONLY TO SHOW OUR MOST TENURED EMPLOYEE EMPLOYEES, THAT THEIR CONTINUED SERVICES VALUED AND APPRECIATED JUST LIKE THEIR INITIAL SERVICE, BUT IN A, HOPEFULLY IN AN ATTEMPT TO TRY TO HAVE THEM STAY A LITTLE LONGER TO HELP US WITH THAT, THOSE 270 NEW EMPLOYEES THAT WE'VE GOT TO HELP, UM, UM, GAIN THE EXPERIENCE AND THE KNOWLEDGE AND THE EXPERTISE TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THE HIGH LEVEL OF SERVICE WE DO, IS TO RAISE THE $4 PER MONTH TO $6 A MONTH, AND THEN TO TAKE THE CAP OFF SO THAT THE EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE BEEN HERE THE LONGEST WILL START TO SEE THE BENEFIT AND WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE A BENEFIT. 
          UM, THIS IS A NOMINAL CHANGE. 
          IT'S A $300,000 CHANGE AND A $350 MILLION BUDGET, I BELIEVE IT'S MUCH MORE SYMBOLICAL. 
          AND IT'S, IT'S TRYING TO SIGNAL THAT WE ARE DOING WHAT WE CAN DO FOR OUR TENURED EMPLOYEES TO SHOW THEM THAT WE APPRECIATE THEM AND THAT WE WANT THEM TO STAY WITH US, UH, AS LONG AS THEY CAN. 
          THE OTHER THING I WANNA DO, UH, RECOMMEND TO YOU, UH, THAT IS, UM, SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP MANY, MANY TIMES TO ME, UM, IS WE ARE ABOUT TWO HOLIDAYS BEHIND MOST CITIES IN NORTH TEXAS. 
          AND, UM, AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT, THAT OUR, OUR, OUR, OUR OUR, UH, POTENTIAL EMPLOYEES, UH, EVALUATE AS THEY LOOK TO EVALUATE OUR OVERALL, UH, PACKAGE. 
          UM, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST TO YOU IS THE, TO ADD ONE ADDITIONAL FLOATING HOLIDAY AND THE IMPORTANCE OF THE FLOATING HOLIDAY. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE HERE THERE'S ABOUT SEVEN EXAMPLES, JUST EXAMPLES OF HOLIDAYS THAT ARE MAYBE IMPORTANT TO ONE PERSON BUT NOT ANOTHER PERSON. 
          ONE OF THESE MAY BE VERY IMPORTANT TO SOMEONE OR NUMEROUS MAY BE MORE IMPORTANT. 
          THE BEAUTY OF THE FLOATING HOLIDAY IS THAT WE WILL, WE WILL GIVE SOMEONE THE ABILITY TO, UM, TAKE OFF AND TO BE WITH THEIR FAMILY, TO HONOR, TO RESPECT, AND TO CELEBRATE WHATEVER HOLIDAY IS MOST IMPORTANT TO THEM. 
          UH, THIS DOESN'T BRING US INTO EXACT ALIGNMENT WITH THE OTHER, UM, CITIES. 
          UH, WE'LL STILL BE ONE ON AVERAGE, ONE, ONE HOLIDAY SHORT A YEAR. 
          BUT I THINK THAT THIS IS AN IMPORTANT FIRST STEP AND, YOU KNOW, WE CAN, WE CAN LOOK AT ADDITIONAL WAYS TO ADDRESS THIS IN THE FUTURE IF IT, IT BECOMES AN ISSUE. 
          UM, THIS IS SOMETHING I THINK WILL BE VERY WELL, WELL RECEIVED BY EMPLOYEES AND APPRECIATED. 
          UM, LET ME STOP THERE ON THE RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION AND JUST SEE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE I TRANSITION INTO PUBLIC SAFETY OR MR. COCHRANE. 
          THANKS. 
          AND BOB, JUST REAL QUICK, OR SORRY, MAYOR, UH, MAYOR, IT'S FINE. 
          , HOW DO YOU DO, I NOTICED YOU DIDN'T CALL LIKE RIGHT AWAY. 
          DO YOU JUST WANT US TO, TO TALK DURING THIS OR DO YOU WANT TO CONTINUE TO DO THE YEAH, YES. 
          ORDER IF YOU HAVE, IF YOU'RE READY TO TALK. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH, I JUST WAS WONDERING, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE MAXIMUM PAY FOR A POLICE OFFICER THAT'S WITHOUT OT LONGEVITY AND BILINGUAL INCENTIVES, ET CETERA, RIGHT? THAT'S JUST, IT IS STRAIGHT SALARY. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M JUST, IT IS MAKING SURE THAT NUMBERS RIGHT. 
          AND, UM, AND, AND LOOK, I, I WANNA REC, I WANNA ACKNOWLEDGE THAT IT'S, IT'S A SIX FIGURE NUMBER NOW. 
          OH, I KNOW. 
          AND, AND, UH, BUT I'LL, I'LL TELL YOU, THE CITY OF IRVING IS THERE. 
          THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE IS THERE, AND I BELIEVE THE CITY OF PLANO WILL BE THERE BY THE TIME THESE BUDGETS ARE ADOPTED. 
          SO, SO THIS IS NOW, UM, IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A LONG CROSSED, I I TOTALLY APPRECIATE THAT. 
          BUT WE'RE, WE'RE DOING IT JUST TO BE, JUST TO STAY COMPETITIVE WITH THOSE CITIES THAT, UH MM-HMM. 
           IRVING AND IRVING GRAND PRAIRIE ALREADY THERE. 
          YEAH. 
          DON'T, AND DON'T MISINTERPRET MY QUESTION, DAWN. 
          I'M, I'M ALL IN SUPPORT OF IT. 
          I'M NOT, 
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UM, I'M JUST SAYING THAT'S NOT REALLY WHERE IT MAX SAYS OUT, RIGHT? THERE'S, THERE'S ACTUALLY MAXES OUT SUBSTANTIALLY HIGHER THAN THAT POTENTIALLY. 
          IT DOES. 
          I MEAN, THEY, THEY HAVE THEIR EDUCATION PAY, THEY HAVE CERTIFICATION PAY, UM, THEY HAVE FITNESS PAY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A VARIETY OF OTHER PAYS THAT, THAT ARE ELIGIBLE. 
          AND THEN I ALSO, SO IF WHEN IT COMES TO THE FLOATING HOLIDAYS, UH, IF YOU SAID, IF IT DOESN'T BRING US QUITE A ONE EXTRA FLOATING HOLIDAYS AND QUITE BRING US UP TO WHERE SOME OF OUR, UH, PEER SLASH COMPETITOR CITIES ARE, WHY DON'T WE JUST DO TWO MORE FLOATING HOLIDAYS AND GET RIGHT UP THERE? RIGHT. 
          WELL, I, I'M, I'M, YOU KNOW, UM, LOOKING AT ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE SUGGESTING, AND WE STILL HAVE THE PUBLIC SAFETY TO GO THROUGH. 
          UM, I THINK IT'S A MORE OF AN INCREMENTAL APPROACH WITH SOME OF THE VACANCIES WE HAVE. 
          I DON'T WANT TO CREATE IMMEDIATELY, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, CREATING TWO, TWO HOLIDAYS IMMEDIATELY WOULD BE TWICE AS MANY TIMES SOMEBODY'S GONNA BE OFF. 
          IT'S GONNA BE TWICE AS MUCH OVERTIME, IT'S GONNA BE TWICE. 
          SO I'M TRYING TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF AN INCREMENTAL APPROACH. 
          AND I DO BELIEVE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE FEEDBACK THAT, UM, I'VE TAKEN FROM OUR ORGANIZATION IS THEY UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          THEY UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT AS LONG AS WE'RE, WE'RE HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO, UM, REMAIN COMPETITIVE, THEY UNDERSTAND THAT IT CAN'T BE A POP THE CLUTCH ALL THE TIME. 
          AND SO HONESTLY, IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF COST ASSOCIATED WITH THE OVERTIME, BUT IT'S ALSO AN ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF THE A HUNDRED VACANCIES. 
          WE HAVE MANY OF THEM IN PUBLIC SAFETY AND THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD, WE WOULD REQUIRE MANDATORY OVERTIME OF FOLKS IF WE DID IT, IF WE DID TWO NEXT YEAR AS OPPOSED TO ONE, WE WILL REQUIRE MANDATORY OVERTIME IF WE DO THE ONE, BUT WE WON'T REQUIRE TWICE AS MUCH MANDATORY OVERTIME. 
          YEAH. 
          AS DOING TWO. 
          I CAN SEE THAT, I GUESS WITH, WITH MANDATORY OVERTIME, IT, IN SOME TEAMS, IT COULD ACTUALLY CREATE A DETRIMENTAL EFFECT. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , UH, AN UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE. 
          YES. 
          IF YOU WILL. 
          YES, SIR. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU, MS. JUSTICE. 
          YEAH, I MEAN, JUST PICK, THANK YOU. 
          JUST PICKING UP ON THAT POINT. 
          YEAH. 
          I MEAN, WHAT WAS IT LIKE $80,000 A YEAR OR SOMETHING FOR THE FLOATING HOLIDAY? WHAT'S, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE ESTIMATE IS FOR THE IMPACT? WE'RE ESTIMATING ROUGHLY 3000. 
          WE FACTOR IN OVER TIME. 
          WE'RE FACTOR, WE THINK ROUGHLY ABOUT 300,000. 
          WE FACTOR IN OVER TIME AND BENEFITS ON THAT AS WELL. 
          OKAY. 
          FOR THE, FOR ONE HOLIDAY. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT'D BE A SUBSTANTIAL IMPACT TO DO. 
          AND WE, WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, SO, SO THE BEST WAY WE CAN ESTIMATE THAT NOW IS LOOK AT HOLIDAYS. 
          UM, BUT THE FLOATING HOLIDAY COULD BE A LITTLE LONG TERM, COULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE COST EFFECTIVE BECAUSE NOT EVERYBODY WOULD BE OFF ON THAT SAME DAY. 
          AND SO WE REALLY NEED TO, WHICH IS ANOTHER REASON, KIND OF MAYBE TAKE A, YOU KNOW, MORE OF AN INCREMENTAL APPROACH, KIND OF IMPLEMENT THIS AND SEE WHAT THE FULL IMPACT IS. 
          I THINK THAT NUMBER WOULD BE PROBABLY WORST CASE SCENARIO. 
          YEAH. 
          IT MIGHT BE LESS. 
          YEAH. 
          WELL, I JUST WANNA SAY I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THE 5%. 
          I THINK THAT'S GOOD. 
          IT PUTS US IN, IN GOOD RANK. 
          UM, I GUESS I WOULD JUST PUSH YOU ON THE GENERAL EMPLOYEE MAXIMUMS. IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE STILL REALLY, REALLY LOW THERE. 
          UM, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT CAN BE DONE FOR THIS YEAR, BUT, BUT KEEPING IN MIND NEXT YEAR, UM, FOR MOST PEOPLE IT'S THEIR ENTRY PAY THAT REALLY MATTERS, UH, NOT WHERE THEY'RE GOING, BUT FOR THE FOLKS THAT HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A LONG TIME AND FOR RETENTION, I WOULD, I GUESS I WOULD PUSH YOU THERE, UM, A LITTLE BIT FOR, FOR PLANNING. 
          THANKS, MR. HUTCHER. 
          RU THANK YOU MAYOR DON. 
          GREAT, GREAT PRESENTATION. 
          I'M GONNA FULLY SUPPORTIVE EVERYTHING YOU'VE, YOU'VE PUT OUT HERE SO FAR, BUT I WANNA CHALLENGE US A LITTLE BIT, COMPARE FOR A MOMENT, THE PUBLIC AND THE PRIVATE SECTOR, PUBLIC SECTOR, LIKE WE'RE IN, AS A CITY, WE GET ONE BITE AT THE APPLE, SO TO SPEAK, PRIVATE SECTOR. 
          IF WE, YOU KNOW, IF WE MAKE A A, A MODIFICATION, WE CAN COME BACK A SECOND TIME, SOME CASES A THIRD TIME AND MAKE A MODIFICATION. 
          AS I LOOK THROUGH EVERYTHING, AND I, I, I TOOK THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK THROUGH EVERYTHING. 
          AND YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT THE MAYOR SAID IS, IS IS GOOD FROM THE STANDPOINT IF WE'RE ABLE TO DO SOME TYPE OF RECRUITMENT AND HAVE EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM, BUT IT'S BAD FROM THE STANDPOINT OF SOMEONE COMES IN THERE AND WE'RE STILL, YOU KNOW, AT A RANK OF FIVE, OF 13, SEVEN OF, OF 12, WELL, I'M SORRY, I WAS LOOKING AT THE WRONG PAGE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE STILL AT, AT, YOU KNOW, FOUR OF, OF 13 AND SOME OF THE OTHER LOWER NUMBERS. 
          AND SO I WOULD CHALLENGE AND ASK THE QUESTION, COULD WE ACTUALLY DO 6% AGAIN THIS YEAR? UM, REALLY, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE'VE TALKED FOR, I MEAN, THIS IS MY, THIS IS MY FIFTH BUDGET. 
          HAVING BEEN NOW COMING OUT ON COUNSELOR FOR FIVE YEARS. 
          WE'VE TALKED EVERY YEAR ABOUT OUR NUMBER ONE ASSET. 
          OUR NUMBER ONE RESOURCE IS OUR EMPLOYEES. 
          WE GET ONE SHOT AT THIS. 
          IF WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME IN AND DO A MID-YEAR CORRECTION, THEN I WOULD SAY, WELL, LET'S GO FIVE AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS. 
          BUT WE DON'T, WE GET THE ONE SHOT. 
          SO I WOULD, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT DOES. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S OTHER THINGS WE COULD LOOK AT IN EITHER DELAY OR DEFER SO THAT WE COULD DO 6%. 
          BUT I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO CHALLENGE US. 
          AND, AND IF I'M THE ONLY PERSON FEELING THIS WAY, THEN, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY I GET ONE VOTE. 
          BUT, UM, I 
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REALLY THINK IF WE'RE, IF WE'RE REALLY GOING TO SAY THAT OUR EMPLOYEES ARE ARE, AND OUR STAFF ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT TO US, THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE WHAT DRIVE THE CITY. 
          UM, WE CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THIS, YOU KNOW, WE WERE, WE WERE VERY PROUD LAST YEAR, AND FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT WEREN'T ON COUNCIL, WE WERE VERY EXCITED THAT WE WENT IN AND, AND, AND PUT IN THE 6%. 
          AND THEN I LOOK AND, YOU KNOW, WE FOLLOWED TO, I THINK WE MOVED UP, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, I THINK WE WERE LIKE TWO OF TWO OF 13 WHEN WE PUT IT ALL IN. 
          AND THEN WE FILED A FIFTH, THEN POLICE, SERGEANT NINTH, LIEUTENANT SEVENTH, SIX, THEN ON DOWN INTO THE FIREFIGHTER RANKS. 
          I'D REALLY, IF AT ALL POSSIBLE, IF WE CAN AFFORD IT, I'D REALLY LIKE TO PUSH AND SAY, LET'S DO ANOTHER YEAR OF SIX, SEE IF WE CAN GET AHEAD OF THIS CURVE, IF WE CAN FILL THESE POSITIONS. 
          BECAUSE ULTIMATELY, AND I DON'T, I, I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THE NUMBERS, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING FROM A PRIVATE SECTOR WE LOOK AT, IF WE MOVE TO SIX AND WE FILL POSITIONS, WE'RE GONNA SAVE IN OVERTIME. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO IT'S NOT, THE 1% IS NOT GOING TO BE A DIRECT HIT ON THE BUDGET. 
          LIKE SOME PEOPLE MIGHT BELIEVE IT WOULD BE, BECAUSE I'M SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, IF I, IF, AND I, AND I HAVEN'T, BUT IF I WENT AND TALKED TO EITHER CHIEF TUTTLE OR CHIEF VY, IF WE HAVE AN OPENING, OPENING, IT'S NOT LIKE, YOU KNOW, I'LL JUST PICK FOR A MOMENT SOMETHING I'M THAT'S NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART. 
          YOU CAN'T SEND AN AMBULANCE OUT WITH ONE PERSON, GOTTA HAVE TWO. 
          SO WE'RE FILLING IT SOMEHOW OVERTIME, MANDATORY OVERTIME, SOME OTHER, SOME OTHER WAY. 
          UM, SO WE'RE PAYING FOR IT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. 
          AND IT WOULD BE MUCH BETTER IF WE COULD GET, IF WE COULD GET MORE POSITIONS FILLED, IF WE REALLY STEP OURSELVES OUT THERE, MAYBE WE HAVE TO CUT SOMEWHERE ELSE AND, YOU KNOW, YOU'D NEED TO BRING THAT TO US AND, AND, AND TALK US THROUGH THAT. 
          BUT I'D REALLY LIKE TO PUSH AND SAY, COULD WE NOT CONSIDER 6% AGAIN THIS YEAR? ARE YOU RECOMMENDING THAT ACROSS THE BOARD OR JUST FOR, FOR PUBLIC SAFETY? NO, I'M RECOMMENDING THAT ACROSS THE BOARD TO BE ABLE TO, TO BE ABLE TO GET AHEAD OF WHERE WE'RE AT AT THIS POINT IN TIME. 
          BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S, IT'S ALL, AND I WOULD, I WOULD SUGGEST 6% ALL THE WAY THROUGH. 
          AND I KNOW I CAN'T MAKE A MOTION IN THIS MEETING, BUT I WOULD, I WOULD STRONGLY ENCOURAGE US TO CONSIDER IT, I GUESS IS WHAT I, IS THAT FAIR MAYOR? CAN I SAY IT THAT WAY? I THINK YOU SAID IT WELL, THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WELL, WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT. 
          I KNOW ALL OF, ALL OF OUR, OUR CITY EMPLOYEES AND STAFF DO. 
          I WILL TAKE THAT CHALLENGE. 
          I DO THINK, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, THIS IS, THIS IS EARLY ON ON IN THE PROCESS. 
          UM, WE, UH, WILL HAVE THE CERTIFIED VALUES COME IN. 
          UM, THERE ARE SOME OPPORTUNITIES, UM, AND, AND, UH, MUCH MORE TO COME ON THIS, BUT THERE ARE SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO POTENTIALLY USE SOME, UH, INCREMENT THAT WAS AVAILABLE TO US BECAUSE, UH, PRIOR YEARS WE'RE, WE'RE STILL GONNA, WE HAVE TO HAVE THE CERTIFIED NUMBERS AND RUN THAT THROUGH OUR, OUR, OUR WASHING OF THOSE NUMBERS, UM, TO, TO, TO REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT IS. 
          BUT I DO BELIEVE THERE'LL BE SOME ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES. 
          UM, AND SO WITH, IF THAT'S THE CONSENSUS, UM, I CAN TAKE THAT AND, AND REALLY, UM, REALLY, UM, MOVE THAT, THAT PROPOSITION FORWARD AND, UH, BEFORE EVEN, UM, BEFORE EVEN FILING THE BUDGET, KIND OF PROVIDE A CONFIRMATION THAT THAT'S THE WAY I CAN I CAN HEAD, I I THINK WE CAN DO IT, UM, WITHOUT SACRIFICING MUCH OF WHAT I'M GONNA SHARE WITH YOU FROM THIS POINT ON. 
          UM, IF THE, UM, IF THE INCREMENT BEHAVES AND, AND, AND THE COUNCIL IS WILLING TO UTILIZE THAT. 
          MAYOR PERI. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. 
          AND, UH, WELL, I KNOW THIS IS VERY CHALLENGING. 
          I WISH YOU HAD A BETTER PICTURE ON THE INFLATION AND, UH, RECESSION. 
          I HEAR THAT THAT'S GONE. 
          I HEAR THAT THAT'S COMING. 
          SO STILL, I DON'T KNOW. 
          I'M, I'M MORE CONFUSED NOW THAN BEFORE. 
          UH, NOW QUESTION ON THE, THE FLOATING HOLIDAYS. 
          MM-HMM. 
           IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T TAKE IT. 
          SO IT COULD, IT WOULD BE CONSIDERED OVER TIME? NO. 
          UM, THIS, THIS STRAIGHT, IT WILL BE, UH, USE IT OR THIS FLOATING HOLIDAY WILL BE USE IT OR LOSE IT. 
          OKAY. 
          THERE'LL BE NO CARRYOVER. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S GOOD. 
          UH, I LIKE ALL THE SUGGESTION THAT CAME OUT. 
          IT'S GREAT SUGGESTION, GREAT CHALLENGE. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO PUT ONE MORE CHALLENGE ON YOUR PLATE IF YOU CAN LOOK AT THAT. 
          UH, THE LONGEVITY PAY FROM FOUR TO SIX. 
          YOU KNOW, KEEPING EMPLOYEE ON BOARD IS CHALLENGING. 
          SO IF YOU, IF WE LOSE IT, ANYONE LOSE IT, THEY LOSE BIG INVESTMENT. 
          NOT JUST, UH, FILLING A POSITION IS A CHALLENGING, BUT ALSO SOMEONE IS WORKING. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, THINGS ARE GOING GOOD, NOW YOU LOSE IT, THEN IT'S BAD. 
          SO IF YOU CAN MAKE IT MORE MEANINGFUL AND SEE THAT, HOW THAT NUMBERS LOOKS GOOD, AND BECAUSE SOMETIMES IF YOU INCREASE, SAY, SAY WE INCREASE 10%, JUST GIVING A NUMBER, SOME OTHER CITY, THEY'RE GONNA COME AND SAY, OKAY, WE NEED TO MATCH. 
          SO INSTEAD OF JUST, JUST DOING ONE FRONT, MAYBE ADD ANOTHER THING THAT'S NOT REALLY TOO MUCH PUBLISHED. 
          YES. 
          UH, I'M A BUSINESSMAN, SO I LOOK IN OTHER WAY. 
          AND THAT IF WE HAVE SOME OTHER BENEFIT COMING ON THAT THEY KNOW THAT THAT'S GONNA ADD UP TO THEIR SALARY 
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EVENTUALLY. 
          IT'S LIKE BOTTOM LINE, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH THEY MAKE EVERY MONTH. 
          SO IF YOU CAN LOOK AT THAT AND MAKE IT MEANINGFUL. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT MIGHT, THAT MIGHT BE GREAT IDEA. 
          JUST MY OPINION. 
          UH, BUT WITH THIS SO MANY LIKE, POSITION THAT'S STILL VACANT, I MEAN, HOW THAT'S WORKING. 
          I MEAN, THE COLLECTION OF THE WEST, SOLID WEST AND ALL THIS, IS THAT MANAGEABLE? IT'S, UH, IT'S, IT'S REQUIRED US TO DEPEND MUCH MORE ON, UM, TEMPORARY LABOR. 
          UH, IN SOME CASES, UH, MUCH MORE THAN WE'RE COMFORTABLE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, TEMPORARY LABOR IS, UH, IT'S A NECESSARY PART OF, OF MANY OF OUR, UH, LABOR, UH, FUNCTIONS. 
          UM, BUT WHEN SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, DOESN'T WORK FOR THE CITY, THEY DON'T BUY INTO THE CITY'S CULTURE. 
          THEY DON'T THINK ABOUT THE COMMUNITY. 
          IT'S JUST A TEMPORARY JOB. 
          OKAY. 
          THE SERVICE ISN'T ALWAYS AS HIGH. 
          AND THE, AND, AND THE, THE LITTLE THINGS DON'T ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, GET DONE. 
          AND SO, UH, YOU START TO SEE, YOU START TO SEE, YOU KNOW, CRACKS IN THE, IN THE ARMOR OF WHAT HAS HISTORICALLY BEEN A VERY HIGH SERVICE LEVEL. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, PROGRAMS OFFERED TO AND SERVICES OFFERED. 
          AND SO THAT'S PROBABLY THE BIGGEST ISSUE. 
          UH, THE OTHER THING IS THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF, A LOT OF MANDATORY OVERTIME. 
          AND IT'S NOT JUST PUBLIC SAFETY. 
          PUBLIC SAFETY HAS ITS SHARE, BUT OUR WATER DEPARTMENT, UM, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S, IF THERE ARE THREE WATER BREAKS, UM, OFTEN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A CREW THAT WILL START, FINISH ONE, START ANOTHER, ANOTHER CREW WILL COME IN. 
          THAT CREW HAS TO KIND OF BE THE TRANSITION INTO THE THIRD BREAK. 
          AND SO THESE, THESE FOLKS ARE WORKING LONG HOURS. 
          UM, AND, AND TO COUNCILMAN HUTCHIN RIDERS POINT, THOSE ARE EXPENSIVE HOURS. 
          'CAUSE THEY'RE TIME AND A HALF HOURS. 
          UM, IT'S MUCH MORE COST EFFECTIVE AND IT'S MUCH MORE IMPORTANTLY, IT'S MUCH BETTER FOR THE HUMAN BEING THAT FILLS THAT JOB NOT TO HAVE TO WORK THAT MANDATORY OVERTIME. 
          UM, IF THEY WANNA VOLUNTEER TO DO IT, THAT'S GREAT, BUT WHEN IT'S MANDATORY AND THEY CAN'T LEAVE THE SITE, BECAUSE OTHERWISE, YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE OUT WITH WITHOUT WATER UNTIL THEY RETURN, THAT GETS REALLY DIFFICULT TO SUSTAIN FOR A PERSON. 
          AND SO IT'S MUCH BETTER FOR US TO FILL THOSE POSITIONS AND REDUCE THAT OVER TIME THAN IT IS TO USE THE STRATEGY THAT NOW THAT WE'VE BEEN USING FOR ABOUT THREE YEARS. 
          YEAH, I KNOW THAT MANDATORY ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, CHALLENGING VOLUNTEER IS ONE THING, BUT I THINK KEEPING MY OPINION, KEEPING THE EMPLOYEE ON BOARD IS MORE IMPORTANT. 
          IT'S VERY MUCH IMPORTANT. 
          OTHERWISE, UH, IT'S GONNA BE MORE CHALLENGING. 
          SO FINDING THAT TRICK, HOW TO KEEP THEM ON BOARD, THAT'S THE MAIN THING. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU MR. BARRIOS. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. 
          UM, I DO WANT A SECOND, UH, COUNCILMAN HUTCHIN RIDER'S THOUGHTS ON THE 6%? I'M, I'M INTERESTED IN SEEING THAT, ASSUMING IT COULD, WE CAN LOOK AT IT, COMPARE WHAT 5% AND WHAT THE 1% DIFFERENTIAL MM-HMM. 
          , YOU KNOW, WHAT KIND OF, UH, DIFFERENCE THAT CREATES ON THE BUDGET. 
          UM, ASSUMING ALL THAT WORKS AND YOU CAN MAKE IT WORK. 
          I, I THINK IF WE DO APPROACH IT THAT WAY, MY COMMENT TOWARDS THAT IS I'D LIKE TO SEE IT ACROSS THE BOARD VERSUS JUST UNDER ONE SERVICE SECTOR, WHETHER IT BE, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST FOR FIRE, NOT JUST FOR, UH, FIRST RESPONDERS, BUT ACROSS THE BOARD. 
          UM, I, UH, HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU, DON, FOR THIS GREAT PRESENTATION. 
          UM, THE, I'M ASSUMING ON SLIDE 11 YOU WERE SHOWING US THE LOCAL IMPACTS AND WE HAD LIKE COMPUTER, LAPTOP, AND THEN WATER MAIN AND BULK FERTILIZER, AND YOU KIND OF JUST SHOWED US MM-HMM. 
          , UH, SOME, SOME NICE GRAPHICS AND INFORMATION, I'M ASSUMING MEAN FOR THOSE WATCHING HOME. 
          THESE AREN'T JUST OUTLIERS. 
          YOU'RE SEEING THIS ACROSS THE BOARD TO, YOU KNOW, THE GREAT PERCENTAGE OF ITEMS THAT WE PURCHASED. 
          IT WAS A CITY AND ABSOLUTELY. 
          YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S, WE, WE DIDN'T WANT TO TAKE UP A BUNCH, RIGHT? BUT HERE, HERE'S JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF, YOU KNOW, JUST 15. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, YOU'VE GOT 25 OR SO EXAMPLES HERE, BUT IF, IF, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WITHOUT, WITHOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, BELABORING THE POINT IN EVERY DEEP DIVE, WE TRIED TO KIND OF SHOW IN EVERY DEEP DIVE AS WELL. 
          AND SO I THINK IF SOMEONE WANTED TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE, THE, THE, UH, PRESENTATIONS, THEY COULD EVEN GET A, A, A MUCH DEEPER AND WIDER UNDERSTANDING OF THE KIND OF INFLATIONARY PRESSURES THAT WE'RE SEEING. 
          THANK YOU ON, UM, FOR THOSE WATCHING AT HOME, I DID WANT TO CLARIFY ON SLIDE 16 WHERE YOU MENTIONED THE BUDGET DEVELOPMENT DRIVERS, UM, 0.2 WITH CITY COUNCIL GOALS AND STRATEGIES FOR THOSE WATCHING I, THIS COUNT, THIS STATE OF COUNCIL HAS NOT DEVELOPED OUR GOALS. 
          WE'RE DOING THAT AFTER, UH, AF AFTERWARDS. 
          SO WHEN, WHEN WE DISCUSS THE CITY, CITY COUNCIL GOALS AND STRATEGIES, THAT'S FROM THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL. 
          YES, SIR. 
          SO I DON'T WANT ANYBODY AT HOME THINKING THEY MISSED IT OR WE DID SOMETHING WITHOUT ANYBODY OUT THERE. 
          UH, THAT'S A VERY FAIR POINT. 
          LET ME, LET ME JUST, JUST TWO SECONDS ON THAT. 
          YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS THAT ARE IN THE WORKS AND THAT ARE ONGOING AND, AND SO THAT'S, WE JUST WANTED TO HONOR THE FACT THAT THERE WERE MANY INITIATIVES THAT HAD STARTED THAT WE'RE GONNA TRANSCEND THIS BUDGET YEAR. 
          AND THAT WOULD REQUIRE FUNDING FOR THAT AS WELL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, ON SLIDE, ON SLIDE 28, EMPLOYEE, GENERAL EMPLOYEE PAY SURVEY COMPARISONS 
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UNDER THE COLUMN THAT'S TITLED RANK AT MINIMUM AND RANK AT MAXIMUM, I NOTICED THAT THE SECOND NUMBER, SO TWO OF 13, SIX OF 12, WHY THE VARIANCE ON THE SECOND NUMBER? I MEAN, IF WE COMPARE AGAINST 12 OTHER CITIES SHOULDN'T BE 12 ALL THE WAY DOWN, OR AM I MISSING SOMETHING THERE? WELL, NOT ALL CITIES HAVE THE EXACT SAME JOB TITLE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, IN SOME CITIES, FOR INSTANCE, UH, MAYBE A, A LIGHT EQUIPMENT OPERATOR DOESN'T EXIST IN A LOT OF CITIES BECAUSE MAYBE A MAINTENANCE HELPER WOULD HAVE THAT RESPONSIBILITY AND THEN THEY WOULD JUMP TO A HEAVY EQUIPMENT OPERATOR. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IT'S JUST, UM, THE UNIQUENESS OF EACH CITY AND HOW THEY, THEY TITLE THE POSITIONS AND WHAT RESPONSIBILITIES THEY, WE, AND WE DON'T JUST GO BY TITLE. 
          WE, WE ACTUALLY LOOK AT THE TITLE AND THEN WE COMPARE THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE POSITION, UM, UM, TO, TO MAKE IT AS ACCURATE OF A COMPARISON AS POSSIBLE. 
          SO, SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WE WENT INTO COMPARE APPLE'S, APPLES, AND JUST FOR THE SAKE OF, UH, CLEAR COMPARISON, WE ONLY TOOK WHAT WE CLEARLY IDENTIFY AND COMPARE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I AM ON PAGE SLIDE 30 SUMMARY OF RECOMMENDED COMPENSATION ADJUSTMENT SLIDE. 
          HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS OF MERIT-BASED MARKET ADJUSTMENT. 
          SIR, ARE WE SAYING, UM, YOU KNOW, BASED AS LONG AS THEY'RE, I DON'T KNOW, A SCALE OF ONE TO FIVE, IF THEY'RE A THREE OR FOUR EMPLOYEE ON THE HIGH END, THEN THEY GET THIS. 
          ARE WE SAYING ONLY THE TOP 25 PERFORMERS ARE GETTING THIS? CAN YOU KIND OF CLARIFY THAT PROCESS? SURE. 
          SO EVERY EMPLOYEE WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR UP TO A 5% PAY ADJUSTMENT. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THAT WOULD BE DEPENDENT ON THEIR, UM, ANNUAL PERFORMANCE EVALUATION, WHICH WAS REQUIRED BY CIVIL SERVICE IF THEY ARE CIVIL SERVICE. 
          IF NOT, IT WOULD JUST BE THEIR ANNUAL PERFORMANCE. 
          AND SO IF THEY'RE PERFORMING AT AN ACCEPTABLE OR AN EXCEPTIONAL LEVEL, UM, THEN THEY WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR UP TO THE 5%. 
          IF THEY WERE PERFORMING, YOU KNOW, AT AT POOR OR SUBPAR, UM, THEN THEY, THEY, THEY MAY GET, THEY MAY NOT RECEIVE ANY INCREASE OR THEY MIGHT RECEIVE AN INCREASE OF LESS THAN THE FULL 5%. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE'RE NOT JUST SAYING THE TOP 20% OF PERFORMERS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          THIS IS OKAY, GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, THE QUESTION KIND OF SIMILAR EARLIER, IT WAS BROUGHT UP THIS FOUR TO $6. 
          THAT'S OBVIOUSLY, AS YOU MENTIONED, IT'S A, IT'S A MINUTE LINE AND A BIG BUDGET. 
          UM, I DUNNO HOW ELSE TO SAY IT. 
          IS THAT ENOUGH? THAT JUST SEEMS LIKE, AT LEAST FROM WHERE I SIT, WHILE THAT THAT SEEMED, YOU KNOW, I GUESS THE QUESTION, IS THAT ENOUGH? AND DOES THAT MAKE A BIG ENOUGH DIFFERENCE? AND I'M SURE YOU AND YOUR TEAM HAVE EXPLORED THAT FOR SOMEBODY MAKING $17 AN HOUR, YOU KNOW, ONE, ONE OF THESE FRONTLINE GUYS WHO, YOU KNOW, IS DOING, UM, A LOT OF WORK OUT THERE THAT, UM, FRANKLY I COULDN'T DO FOR SURE. 
          IS THAT, DOES THAT MAKE ENOUGH? OR IS THAT SOMETHING, MAYBE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE THAT INTO SOMETHING ELSE? IS THERE A BETTER USE OF THAT? I MEAN, IS THAT GONNA MAKE, IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A LOT, SO TO ME, 300,000 AND A THREE 50 YET, IT'S A NO BRAINER IN MY MIND FROM WHERE I SIT RIGHT NOW. 
          BUT MY QUESTION IS THAT, IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE WE COULD BE DOING TO MAKE A BIGGER IMPACT THAN A $2 DIFFERENCE? 'CAUSE I, SO THAT $6 20 YEARS, I MEAN, WHAT IS THAT AN EXTRA $120 A MONTH? I THINK IT WORKS OUT TO YOU. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, UH, SO, UH, YOU KNOW, LONGEVITY IS ONE OF THOSE KIND OF INSTITUTIONAL THINGS, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT, IT'LL STICK OUT. 
          SO I THINK IT'S WORTH HAVING, UM, AGAIN, MUCH LIKE THE, THE HOLIDAY, UM, JUST TRYING TO TAKE AN INCREMENTAL APPROACH TO, UM, CHANGING SOME OF THESE THINGS. 
          AS YOU'LL SEE, UM, AS WE GET INTO THE INFRAST PUBLIC SAFETY AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ONLY, THIS IS, THIS IS 8 MILLION OF, I'M SORRY, THIS IS 5 MILLION. 
          THIS RECOMMENDATION IS, IS 5 MILLION OF $13 MILLION OF NEW REVENUE. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, WE WERE REALLY TRYING TO BALANCE AND, AND CREATE A, A BALANCED APPROACH TO EMPLOYEE, UM, RETENTION AND RECRUITMENT, THE INFRA, THE PUBLIC SAFETY, AND THEN THE INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          UM, I, I DO, AGAIN, BEING AT THIS VERY EARLY STAGE, UM, THERE ALWAYS SEEMS TO BE, UM, A CHANGE IN, YOU KNOW, IN, IN, IN THE REVENUE AS, AS WE BEGIN TO REFINE THINGS. 
          AND SO, UM, I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE'LL BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO LOOK AT LONGEVITY. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, IT SOUNDS LIKE THE 6% VERSUS THE 5% WOULD BE THE STRONGEST DESIRE. 
          IF THERE WAS CAPACITY, WE WOULD DEFINITELY, WE COULD DEFINITELY LOOK AT THE LONGEVITY. 
          I MEAN, IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE GREAT TO BE ABLE TO KIND OF INCREASE THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE AND MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE CONSEQUENTIAL CHANGE. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK AS AN, AS AN EMPLOYEE, WHAT YOU LOOK AT, WHAT YOU LOOK AT IS THE TOTAL, UM, UH, PACKAGE THAT YOU'RE, THAT YOUR EMPLOYER. 
          AND SO, YOU KNOW, ALONG WITH, ALONG WITH THE 5% OR THE 6%, UH, ALONG WITH THE LONGEVITY, ALONG WITH THE, UM, UM, WITH THE, UM, NEW HOLIDAY, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY, THEY'RE GONNA SEE THAT THEY'RE, UH, INSURANCE PREMIUMS AREN'T CHANGING. 
          THEY'RE GONNA SEE THAT THEIR DEDUCTIBLES ARE GOING DOWN, 
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THAT THEIR, UH, THAT THEIR H S A, UH, CONTRIBUTION IS GOING UP AND THAT THEIR DENTAL BENEFIT IS GOING UP. 
          AND SO WHAT WE REALLY TRY TO DO IS PAINT A, A, A, UH, KIND OF A BROAD PICTURE, UH, FOR, FOR EMPLOYEES. 
          AND, AND I THINK THAT MOST UNDERSTAND THAT YOU CAN'T DO EVERYTHING IN ONE REALM, BUT AS LONG AS YOU'RE MAKING PROGRESS IN MOST OF THE REALMS THAT THEY, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY GIVE YOU CREDIT FOR THAT. 
          AND, BUT MOST OF THESE ARE THE, THE ANSWER IS MOST OF THIS IS TRYING TO, TRYING TO BE A LITTLE MORE INCREMENTAL IN OUR APPROACH, CONTINUING OVER THE YEARS TO, TO, TO WORK. 
          I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU, THAT I'M SO PLEASED AND THANKFUL FOR OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS WITH THE COUNCIL IS THE, UH, ON-RAMP TO, TO MOVE THESE, THESE THINGS FORWARD. 
          UM, AGAIN, LONGEVITY HAS NEVER BEEN CHANGED SINCE THE, SINCE IT WAS ADOPTED WITH CIVIL SERVICE RULES. 
          AND SO THIS WILL BE A BIG DEAL TO THE EMPLOYEES JUST TO SAY, OKAY. 
          WHEN YOU KNOW, IT'S ON THE RADAR. 
          WELL, I THANK YOU AND DON, I, FROM WHERE I SIT, I WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU THAT IF THERE'S ANY IDEAS, YOU HAVE SOME OUT OF THE BOX THINKING THAT MAYBE YOU'RE LIKE, UH, I'VE KIND OF PLAYED WITH THIS IDEA IN THE BACK OF MY H HEAD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          PLEASE BRING IT TO US. 
          THANK YOU. 
          BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S THOSE KIND OF, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU'RE COMPETING FOR PEOPLE AND FOR SKILLED LABOR AND, UM, YEAH. 
          EVERY, YOU'RE TAKING A MULTI APPROACH, OBVIOUSLY MULTI-ANGLE APPROACH TO, TO RETENTION AND TO RECRUITMENT. 
          UM, BUT SOMETIMES THAT KIND OF OUT OF THE BOX THINKING, AND I KNOW YOU AND YOUR ENTIRE STAFF HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB OVER THE YEARS AND THROUGH SOME, ESPECIALLY THE LAST FEW YEARS, BEEN SOME TOUGH YEARS. 
          BUT, UM, PLEASE BRING THOSE TO US. 
          'CAUSE WE WANT TO HEAR, AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'LL WORK. 
          IF IT'S BEEN IN THE BACK OF YOUR HEAD AND YOU JUST PUT 'EM AWAY, PLEASE BRING 'EM TO US. 
          UM, 'CAUSE YOU'RE THE, YOU HAVE THE SOME IDEAS AND, UM, I, I KNOW I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR 'EM. 
          AND, UM, BUT THAT SAID, UH, I THINK IT WAS COUNCILMAN CORCORAN MENTIONED THE FLOATING HOLIDAY. 
          UH, I LOVE THAT IDEA. 
          SO HAT HATS OFF TO YOU THAT THE IDEA OF A FLOATING HOLIDAY ALLOWS FOR FLEXIBILITY, UM, FOR, FOR, AND I THINK EMBRACES, UM, DIVERSITY, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, SO, SO HATS OFF TO YOU FOR FLOATING THAT IDEA OF A FLOATING HOLIDAY. 
          SO THANK YOU MR. DORIAN. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UM, I JUST WANTED TO REITERATE A COUPLE THINGS. 
          ONE, UM, COUNCILMAN HUTCHIN WRITER, I, I, UM, I WOULD CONSIDER SUPPORTING THE 6%, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE BALANCE BETWEEN WHAT IS PAID OVER TIME VERSUS WHAT THAT 6% LOOKS LIKE ACROSS THE BOARD. 
          AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION, UM, IS AS FAR AS RETENTION, UH, IS CONCERNED WHEN, WHEN WE'RE BRINGING ON THESE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE LESS THAN ONE, ONE YEAR EXPERIENCE, IN ORDER TO RETAIN THOSE OR PROMOTE THEM OVER TIME, OUR, I KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO SPEND TIME TRAINING AND I'M, I'M SURE THAT THERE'S AN INTERNAL TRAINING MECHANISM IN PLACE. 
          UM, IS THERE A, HAVE WE FIGURED OUT IF THERE'S A COST FACTOR, UM, TO CONTINUE TRAINING THEM? AND THEN WHAT IS THE RETENTION RATE OF SOMEONE THAT WOULD TAKE THAT YEAR OR MAYBE A MINIMUM OF ONE YEAR AND TAKE THAT INFORMATION OR KNOWLEDGE AND MOVE ON? RIGHT. 
          UM, SO GREAT QUESTION. 
          YOU KNOW, THE, UM, LET ME GO BACK TO THE, UH, BACK TO THIS SIDE. 
          I NEED THESE, UM, SORRY, I'M SORRY. 
          I WAS LOOKING FOR THE RETENTION LINE. 
          WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF VERSIONS OF THIS, SO MAYBE IT'S NOT IN HERE AFTER ALL. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          UM, I'M THINKING OF A SLIDE. 
          WE, WE DID HAVE IN THE DECK , UH, WE BEFORE, YEAH. 
          WE DIDN'T WANNA GO OVER A HUNDRED. 
          SO, UH, BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, UM, MOST OF, MOST OF THE ATTRITION THAT WE'VE SEEN SINCE COVID, UH, HAS BEEN, HAS BEEN VERY SEASONED TENURED EMPLOYEES. 
          UM, THEY'RE DEFINITELY SOME OF THE NEW EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE COME AND, AND, AND, AND LEFT FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR HONESTLY MORE, MORE MONEY. 
          AND THOSE HAVE BEEN IN KIND OF THE ACCOUNTING AND THE ENGINEERING, SO THE REAL PROFESSIONAL TYPE POSITIONS. 
          UM, BUT WE DID SEE A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF RETIREMENTS, UM, EACH OF THE LAST THREE YEARS. 
          UM, IF I REMEMBER THE NUMBERS RIGHT, IT WAS CLOSE TO 200, UH, RETIREMENTS OR SO MM-HMM. 
          , I THINK AT THIS YEAR, WE'RE ALREADY UP TO, UH, UH, LIKE LOOKING AT GREG, I MEAN, UH, CHARLES OR BOB, I THINK IT WAS LIKE IN THE 30 TO 40 RANGE ALREADY THIS YEAR. 
          AND SO, UM, I THINK TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, BECAUSE WE ARE BRINGING ON SO MANY NEW EMPLOYEES, UM, THAT'S A DATA POINT THAT WE NEED TO REALLY MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BEING MINDFUL OF. 
          ARE THEY, AFTER WE INVEST IN 'EM, ARE THEY STAYING? NOW, I'LL TELL YOU, IN THE PUBLIC SAFETY REALM, THEY DO. 
          THEY, THEY HAVE STAYED. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE SPEND NEARLY A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TRAINING FIREFIGHTERS AND BRINGING THEM ON. 
          AND, UM, WE'VE HAD A HIGH RETENTION RATE IN FIRE. 
          IT'S MOSTLY BEEN IN THE, UM, 
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THE FRONTLINE, UH, THE FRONTLINE POSITIONS. 
          UM, PARTICULARLY RIGHT NOW WITH SUCH A ROBUST CONSTRUCTION, UM, ENVIRONMENT IN, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW BETTER THAN ANYBODY HERE. 
          YES. 
          UM, THAT, UM, A LOT OF THE TRADES WILL COME ON. 
          AND THEN AS SOON AS THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LEAVE, LEAVE FOR, YOU KNOW, A DOLLAR, $2 MORE AN HOUR MM-HMM. 
          , THEY'LL DO THAT, AND THEN THEY'LL LEAVE THE NEXT PLACE FOR THE NEXT OPPORTUNITY FOR A DOLLAR OR TWO AN HOUR. 
          SO, WE'LL, THE CHURN THAT WE'RE SEEING, UH, IS IN SOME OF THE, THE HIGHLY TECHNICAL PROFESSIONAL POSITIONS, AND THEN SOME OF THE, UH, MOSTLY IN THE FRONTLINE POSITIONS. 
          BUT NOW THAT WE'RE, NOW THAT WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED THESE AND WE'RE BRINGING ALL OF THESE NEW EMPLOYEES ON, THAT'LL BE A DATA POINT THAT WE WE'RE VERY MINDFUL OF TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT. 
          AND KEEPING 'EM, AND THEN WHEN THEY LEAVE, WHY ARE THEY LEAVING? THANK YOU. 
          UM, AND SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE GENERAL EMPLOYEES THAT WE HAVE HERE, UM, IN THE EVENT THAT THEY, THEY'RE BROUGHT ON, YOU SAY A LOT OF THEM HAVE UNDER A YEAR EXPERIENCE, THEY'RE, DO THEY COME ON WITH THE TRAINING PROGRAM IN PLACE, OR ARE THEY, OR IS THE, THEIR PEERS DOING MOST OF THE TRANSFER OF, YOU KNOW, LEARNING THE SKILL SETS? MM-HMM. 
          ? SO, UH, IT'S A, IT'S A VARIETY. 
          UM, WE DEFINITELY, WE HAVE, UH, PROFESSIONAL TRAINING THAT WE'LL SEND THEM, LIKE FOR A BUILDING INSPECTOR, UM, WE'LL, WE'LL ACTUALLY SEND THEM TO I C C AND GET THEM CERTIFIED THROUGH I CCC MM-HMM. 
          , UH, IN, IN, UH, FLEET, WE HAVE A NEW APPRENTICE PROGRAM. 
          SO WE'RE BRINGING, BECAUSE WE WERE GETTING ZERO APPLICANTS IN FLEET, WE'RE BRINGING FOLKS ON WITH ALMOST NO SKILLS IN FLEET AND TRAINING THEM UP TO THE TECHNICIAN LEVEL, UH, OR PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE LEVEL, AND THEN TAKING 'EM TO TECHNICIAN LEVEL. 
          AND SO A LOT OF THAT TRAINING IS, IS DONE IN-HOUSE. 
          UM, AND THEN SOME, WE, WE ARE ABLE TO HAVE THAT HAS, UH, HAVE A, UH, BASIC SKILLSET THAT THEY CAN COME IN AND THEN THAT WE CAN HELP THEM GROW IN THE POSITION. 
          AND SO, UM, I WOULD SAY IT'S A, IT'S, IT'S REALLY KIND OF A VARIETY OF THOSE MM-HMM. 
          , UH, TYPES. 
          BUT THERE WAS A TIME WHERE WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY KIND OF APPRENTICE OR INTERNSHIP PROGRAM. 
          I MEAN, EITHER IF YOU HAD THE SKILLSET OR YOU DIDN'T QUALIFY FOR THE JOB. 
          WELL, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD TO CHANGE, WE'VE HAD TO BE VERY FLEXIBLE AND CHANGE OUR APPROACH TO THAT PARTICULARLY AND LIKE THE TRADES AND, AND, AND THE FLEET, THE WATER, UH, PRODUCTION AND OPERATIONS AND SEWER COLLECTION AND OPERATIONS, THOSE KIND OF FIELDS. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU KNOW, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, WE, WE'VE IMPLEMENTED, UM, AT OUR OFFICE IS WE REQUIRE ONE C OR ONE EDUCATIONAL UNIT, CE UNIT A MONTH FOR ANYONE TO CONTINUE, NO MATTER WHAT POSITION YOU'RE IN. 
          AND I THINK IT'S VERY, VERY HELPFUL FOR EVERYONE TO PICK SOMETHING OR, OR CHOOSE, CHOOSE A CLASS OR A CERTIFICATION. 
          IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE CERTIFIED, ACTUALLY. 
          IT COULD JUST BE AN EDUCATIONAL, UM, UM, YOUTUBE VIDEO AS FAR AS THAT'S CONCERNED. 
          AND IT HELPS THEM, UH, ONE, IT ENG IT, THAT IT ENGAGES THEM AND, UM, IT HELPS WITH SOME RETENTION FOR THE MOST PART. 
          SO I APPRECIATE THAT INFORMATION. 
          I THINK THAT'S VERY, UM, INVALUABLE. 
          AND AGAIN, I JUST WANNA REITERATE TOO, I I, I WOULD SUPPORT OR CONSIDER SUPPORTING THE 6% JUST TO LOOK AT THE NUMBERS AND THEN ALSO BASED ON THE TRAINING, 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE, ALL THESE THINGS COST MONEY. 
          AND, UH, IT WOULD BE NICE TO KIND OF SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE ACROSS THE BOARD. 
          UM, THE OTHER THING TOO, AND THE LAST THING IS I DO LIKE THE FLOATING HOLIDAY IDEA. 
          UM, I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE OFFERING 10 OF THE 11, WHICH REALLY, HONESTLY, THERE'S NOT MUCH, UH, YOU KNOW, I JUST THINK THAT'S A VERY GOOD, UM, WAY TO SHOW THAT WE APPRECIATE EMPLOYEES. 
          SO, AND THANK YOU, DON, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. 
          IT WAS VERY NICE. 
          THANK YOU, MS. JUSTICE. 
          UH, THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UH, I DON'T DISAGREE. 
          6% SOUNDS GREAT. 
          I JUST WANNA SEE THE REST OF YOUR PRESENTATION BEFORE WE SELL. 
          WE SORT OF START COMMITTING OURSELVES TO THAT. 
          I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, UH, OUR EMPLOYEES ARE NO DOUBT THE BIGGEST ASSET WE HAVE IN THE CITY, A HUNDRED PERCENT. 
          BUT DEPENDING ON WHAT THE REST OF THAT 13 MILLION IS GONNA GO TO, I DON'T WANNA SORT OF BOX OURSELVES INTO NOT BEING ABLE TO FILL POTHOLES, BECAUSE TO SOMEONE, YOU KNOW, TWO STREETS OVER, THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO THEM IN THE CITY. 
          BUT RECOGNIZING WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO FILL THE POTHOLE IF WE DON'T HAVE THE EMPLOYEE IN PLACE. 
          SO I, I, I THINK CONCEPTUALLY I'M ON BOARD WITH THAT. 
          I'M JUST A LITTLE BIT CAUTIOUS ABOUT MAKING ONE, WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO BUDGET CONSERVATIVELY THE WAY THAT WE ALWAYS HAVE. 
          WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROPERTY ROLES ARE GONNA LOOK LIKE, OR WHAT OUR SALES TAX IS GONNA LOOK LIKE, AND, YOU KNOW, SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO STILL SORT OF BE, UH, CONSERVATIVE IN YOUR MINDSET WITH RESPECT TO, YOU KNOW, GOD FORBID A PANDEMIC COME BACK TOMORROW, WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO? YOU KNOW? SO I, I, I THINK, UM, THAT, THAT'S MY ENCOURAGEMENT TO YOU. 
          I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE NUMBER ON 6%, BECAUSE EMPLOYEES ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IN OUR CITY FOR SURE. 
          UM, BUT I'M CURIOUS WHAT WE HAVE TO SACRIFICE, WHICH I'M SURE YOU'RE GONNA PRESENT TO US NOW IN ORDER TO DO THAT, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT TO BALANCE HERE. 
          YEAH, NO, I, I, I TOTALLY AGREE. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK, AGAIN, UM, THE CONSERVATIVE NATURE OF OUR BUDGETING BRINGS ME HERE TODAY WITH, UM, WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER A, A PRETTY CONSERVATIVE APPROACH. 
          UM, IT'S ALWAYS BETTER FOR US TO COME BACK RIGHT BEFORE FILING OR EVEN, UH, YOU KNOW, AT BUDGET PRESENTATION TIME. 
          AND, AND, UM, 
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AND IT'S ALWAYS BETTER TO HAVE A LITTLE ADDITIONAL REVENUE THAT WAS DISCOVERED THAN HAVE, YOU KNOW, LESS AT THAT TIME. 
          AND SO I, I'M HOPEFUL THAT, THAT, UH, WE, YOU KNOW, I'M HOPEFUL THAT WE COULD BRING BACK A POTENTIAL 6% STRATEGY THAT I WOULD SAY FROM THIS SLIDE FORWARD, WE DON'T HAVE TO CHANGE ANYTHING. 
          IF YOU WANTED TO DO THE 6%, HERE'S HOW WE COULD DO IT. 
          AND THAT WOULD BE MY GOAL. 
          MR. BARRIOS. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. 
          DON. 
          UM, HOW DO WE RECRUIT SOME OF THOSE LINE EMPLOYEES, LIKE SOME OF THOSE, UM, FRONTLINE AS WE'RE CALLING 'EM TYPE JOBS? SURE. 
          AND THE REASON I ASKED THAT, I WAS JUST THINKING HERE, AND I KNOW, YOU KNOW, I RECENTLY WENT THROUGH, UH, UM, C P A AND I KNOW THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WILL SOMETIMES RECRUIT OUT OF MILITARY, YOU KNOW, OR A LOT OF YOUR, YOUR, YOUR FIRE OR POLICE, UH, DEPARTMENTS, NOT JUST OURS. 
          WE'LL RECRUIT OUT MILITARY. 
          I WAS TALKING TO MY NEPHEW LAST NIGHT WHO'S ACTIVE ARMY, AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HE, HE'S COMING UP AND WONDERING WHETHER HE'S GONNA REENLIST FOR HIS, I DON'T KNOW, 15TH YEAR OR WHATEVER. 
          UM, AND WE WERE TALKING, WELL, WHAT'S, WHAT ARE YOUR OPTIONS? AND LOOKING AT SOME OF THESE JOBS, JOBS, I'M THINKING, WELL, THIS IS KIND OF WHAT SOME OF THE STUFF HE DOES AND MANAGES FLEETS WITHIN THE ARMY, AND HE MANAGES, UH, VEHICLES AND SCHEDULES, MAINTENANCE AND THAT KIND OF STUFF. 
          I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES TO RECRUIT, YOU KNOW, OUTTA MILITARY FOR THOSE KIND OF JOBS AS WELL, OR WHAT ARE, HOW DO WE RECRUIT? 'CAUSE I, IF SOMEBODY ASKED ME, I, IN ALL HONESTY, I COULDN'T TELL 'EM. 
          YEAH. 
          SO I, FOR MY KNOWLEDGE FOR THOSE WATCHING, IF YOU CAN. 
          SURE, SURE. 
          DEFINITELY. 
          SO WE HAVE A VERY ACTIVE, UM, UH, WE, WE, WE HAVE A VERY ACTIVE PARTICIPATION IN JOB FAIRS ACROSS ALL THE DIFFERENT, UH, SO BOTH PUBLIC AND PRIVATE JOB FAIRS. 
          UH, THE MILITARY IS A, IS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE. 
          UH, I THINK A REAL FERTILE GROUND THAT, THAT WE COULD PROBABLY DO A LITTLE BETTER ON. 
          UH, WE HAVE PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE HIGH SCHOOLS TO CREATE, UM, UM, AND, AND NONPROFITS LIKE THE NETWORK TO, TO PUT OURSELVES IN PLACES WHERE, UM, FOLKS LOOKING TO IMPROVE THEIR OVERALL SITUATION, FOR INSTANCE, AT THE NETWORK COULD SEE A CITY JOB IS A REALLY VALUABLE. 
          SO I WOULD SAY THE FIRST, FIRST IS A VERY ACTIVE, UM, APPROACH TO JOB FAIRS AND GETTING OUT INTO ALL COMMUNITIES, UM, IN HERE IN NORTH TEXAS. 
          AND, AND TRYING TO, UH, SECOND IS, UH, FOR MORE OF THE PROFESSIONAL, UM, ORGANIZA OR POSITIONS WOULD BE THROUGH PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATIONS, UM, THROUGH, UH, YOU KNOW, TARGETED SOCIAL MEDIA OUTREACH AND CAMPAIGNS. 
          UM, BUT, UH, GETTING BACK TO THE, I'M SORRY, GETTING BACK TO THE FRONTLINE. 
          UM, UM, THE, THE OTHER IS, UH, THE OTHER IS, UH, TRYING TO TAP INTO, UH, THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND REALLY SHOW THE BENEFITS. 
          SO IF WE CAN SELL THE LONG-TERM BENEFITS OF WORKING FOR A MUNICIPALITY VERSUS THE SHORT-TERM BENEFITS OF WORKING IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR, SOMEBODY THAT GETS THAT, FIRST OF ALL, THAT'S THE RIGHT KIND OF MINDSET YOU WANT, UM, IN AN EMPLOYEE. 
          UM, AND SO, UM, TRYING TO COMPETE A LITTLE STRONGER WITH THE PUBLIC SECTOR. 
          'CAUSE RIGHT NOW, UM, SO ALL THOSE CITIES, THOSE 700 CITY JOBS, UH, CHARLES AND I, WE WERE AT A MEETING LAST THURSDAY AT THE COG WHERE THERE WERE PROBABLY ABOUT TWO DOZEN OTHER CITIES WE'RE ALL SAYING THE EXACT SAME THING. 
          AND SO IT'S, RIGHT NOW IT'S THE ROBUST PRIVATE SECTOR. 
          UM, I THINK OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE DRAWING FOLKS FROM THE PRI UH, FROM THE PUBLIC SECTOR. 
          AND SO, UM, JUST INCREASING OUR PRESENCE IN, IN COMPETING STRONGER WITH THE PUBLIC SEC, UH, I'M SORRY, THE PRIVATE SECTOR, I THINK IS ANOTHER STRATEGY WE NEED TO WORK ON. 
          WELL, MR. MAGNER, THANK YOU. 
          IT WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION IF, AND GREAT QUESTIONS AND, AND GREAT SUPPORT BY THE COUNCIL. 
          UM, COULD I ASK ONE THING? PLEASE? WOULD YOU, BECAUSE OF THE COUNCIL, SEVERAL PEOPLE BEING NEW, TALK TO US ABOUT THE TIMELINE IN WHICH WE PRESENT AND WE GET OUR BUDGET SET AND SO FORTH, VERSUS THE SAME CITIES THAT WE BENCHMARK AGAINST AND HOW THEY'RE ABLE TO SEE WHERE WE ARE MM-HMM. 
          , AND THEN THEY DO THEIR RAISES PERIODICALLY. 
          RIGHT? AND I GUESS INCREMENTALLY, IF THEY'RE ABLE TO DO IT AFTER WE POST OURS, IS THERE A WAY TO BENEFIT OUR EMPLOYEES BY MAYBE ADDING MAYBE THAT 1%, ESPECIALLY AFTER WE'RE IN TO THE BUDGET, ADDING IT LATER AND GIVING US A BUMP THAT KEEPS US ABOVE OUR OTHER CITIES? AND WOULD THAT HELP US FINANCIALLY AND HELP US MORALE WISE, WHETHER, AND MAYBE IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY OR COULDN'T BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE TO SET A BUDGET, BUT IF WE SET IT WITH IT THERE AND MAYBE BE MERIT BASED AT A LATER DATE, IS THERE ANY WAY TO DO THAT? IT MAY BE MORE THAN THAT. 
          1% SURE. 
          IS THERE, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? BECAUSE WE, WE END UP DO GREAT THINGS. 
          YOU DO GREAT WORK, AND THE MATH IS THERE, AND THEN THE OTHERS SEE WHERE WE ARE, AND THEY COME IN AND JUST STEP OVER US. 
          SO THE CITIES, SO, SO SOME, SOME CITIES WILL DO, UM, THEY'LL DO MID-YEAR ADJUSTMENTS. 
          UM, AND WHAT THEY'LL DO IS THEY'LL BUDGET A LUMP SUM, 
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SAY, FOR INSTANCE, AND THEY WILL THEN TAKE THE TEMPERATURE OF THE MARKET AT THAT MID-YEAR ADJUSTMENT AND MAKE AN, YOU KNOW, SO THEY MAY JUST SET ASIDE, SAY, YOU KNOW, A MILLION DOLLARS AND SAY, THIS IS GONNA BE FOR MID-YEAR ADJUSTMENTS, COULD BE PUBLIC SAFETY, MOST OF THE TIME IT IS, COULD BE OTHER, YOU KNOW, MARKET ADJUSTMENTS THAT THEY WANNA MAKE ON HARD TO FILL POSITIONS IN THE PROFESSIONAL REALM, LIKE ACCOUNTANTS RIGHT NOW, OR, YOU KNOW, ENGINEERS. 
          AND SO, UM, I THINK THAT FROM A, UM, SO, SO I THINK FROM A STRATEGY STANDPOINT, IF WE WERE GONNA DO THE 6%, I WOULD SUGGEST DO IT ALL IN THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR SO THAT IT'S NOT UNCERTAIN TO EMPLOYEES, LIKE IF IT'S GONNA HAPPEN, IF IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN, OR IF THEY'RE GONNA BE IN THE MIX OF THE, OF THE POSITIONS THAT ACTUALLY GET THE ADDITIONAL REVENUE. 
          I THINK HAVING IT BE A, A, A CERTAINTY AND HAVE THEM REALLY UNDERSTAND HOW THE, UM, COMPENSATION STRATEGY FITS INTO THE OVERALL BUDGET. 
          UM, ONE, I THINK THESE PAST COUPLE YEARS THAT'S BEEN, THAT'S BEEN REALLY ENCOURAGING TO OUR EMPLOYEES. 
          SO MARY, YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT THERE, THERE ARE MID-YEAR ADJUSTMENTS. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES A, A COMMUNITY WILL BE, UH, WILL BE SEEING STRONGER REVENUES IN OTHER, UH, AREAS THAN THEY BUDGETED FOR. 
          AND THEN THEY MIGHT DECIDE TO, UH, DO A MID-YEAR ADJUSTMENT USING SOME OF THOSE REVENUES. 
          I WOULDN'T WANNA SUGGEST THAT WE WOULD DO THAT WITH SALES TAX. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S TOO VOLATILE. 
          THE, THE OTHER GOOD THING ABOUT DOING THE ADJUSTMENT LIKE WE DO IS WE KNOW THE PROPERTY TAX IS THERE, AND WE KNOW LIKELY THAT THAT'S GONNA BE REOCCURRING , YOU KNOW, MEAN WE COULD ALWAYS HAVE A SETBACK PROPERTY TAX TOO, BUT THE, LIKE, CHANCES OF THAT VERSUS A SETBACK IN SALES TAX OR JUST A, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF IT'S JUST A COOLING IN PROPERTY TAX VERSUS, YOU KNOW, A COOLING IN SALES TAXES IS, IS MORE OF A SECURE POSITION TO BE IN. 
          SO, UH, IT'S, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. 
          THERE ARE A LOT OF MID-YEAR ADJUSTMENTS. 
          UM, IF WE WOULD, UH, IF THE COUNCIL'S DIRECTION IS TO TRY TO DO THE 6% WITHOUT IMPACTING ANY OF THESE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT, AND WE COULD PULL THAT OFF, I'D LIKE TO SUGGEST WE JUST DO THAT RIGHT FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, SEND A STRONG MESSAGE. 
          UM, THE OTHER THING IS THAT REALLY DOES PUT THE PRESSURE ON THE OTHER COMMUNITIES TO, UH, YOU KNOW, TO SAY, HEY, RICHARDSON'S LEADING THE WAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          HEY, WELL, LET ME, LET ME TRANSITION NOW INTO THAT SECOND KEY BUDGET FOCUS AREA, WHICH IS PUBLIC SAFETY. 
          HERE YOU'LL SEE THAT, UH, IN TOTALITY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE POLICE OPERATIONS, THE FIRE OPERATIONS, AND OUR EMERGENCY RESPONSE OPERATIONS, YOU'LL SEE WE'RE LOOKING AT A INCREASE OF ABOUT $5.6 MILLION UP TO ABOUT $67.7 MILLION. 
          UM, SOME EXPANDED KEY INVESTMENTS THAT I WANNA, UH, BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION, UH, ON THE POLICE SIDE WOULD BE, UH, THE MENTAL AND PHYSICAL, UH, EXCUSE ME, THE MENTAL AND PHYSICAL HEALTH ASSESSMENTS THAT WE BRIEFED YOU ON WHEN CHIEF TAYLOR CAME TO DO HIS ANNUAL REPORT RECALL, UH, FIRE ALREADY HAVING, UH, THE, UH, PHYSICAL HEALTH ASSESSMENTS ANNUALLY. 
          AND YOU'LL SEE THERE THAT WE'RE GONNA ADD, UH, PROPOSING TO ADD THE MENTAL AS A WELL, UH, THE RECLASSIFICATION OF THE, OF A PATROL OFFICER TO A LIEUTENANT. 
          SO HERE'S, UM, WHAT'S GOING ON THERE. 
          SO WHEN WE WENT TO 12 HOUR SHIFTS, UM, THERE WERE THREE, UM, UH, LIEUTENANT POSITIONS BY ADDING, UPGRADING, UH, A POLICE OFFICER TO LIEUTENANT, WHAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE IS A LIEUTENANT ON EVERY SHIFT NOW. 
          AND SO WHY IS THAT IMPORTANT? THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE CHIEF TITTLE TOLD YOU, UH, BY THE END OF THIS YEAR, HE'S GONNA HAVE SEVEN SERGEANTS WITH LESS THAN A YEAR EXPERIENCE. 
          AND SO HAVING THAT ADDITIONAL LA UH, LAYER OF SUPERVISION IN A LIEUTENANT, UH, A TENURED LIEUTENANT, UM, REALLY ADDS SOME VALUE TO THOSE 12 HOUR, TO THE 12 HOUR SHIFT STRATEGY. 
          AND SO YOU SEE A FAIRLY MINIMAL REALLY IMPACT FOR HAVING THE, THE, UH, CONFIDENCE AND THE COMFORT OF KNOWING YOU'VE ALWAYS GOT A LIEUTENANT ON DUTY, UM, TO HELP THOSE NEW SERGEANTS DEAL WITH SOME OF THOSE NEW THINGS THAT THEY'LL DEAL WITH. 
          UH, TALKING ABOUT RECRUITING A NEW APPLICANT TRACKING SYSTEM, UM, THAT IS VERY INTERACTIVE AND THAT WILL REALLY BE RESPONSIVE, PARTICULARLY TO DEALING WITH SOME OF THE NEW, UH, YOU KNOW, THE YOUNGER APPLICANTS THAT WE, AND HOW THEY LIKE TO BE COMMUNICATED WITH, HOW THEY, THEY LIKE TO, UH, UH, INTERACT. 
          AND, AND, AND, AND PARTICULARLY IN THE EARLY DAYS OF THE RECRUITMENT PROCESS, THE PEER SUPPORT TRAINING. 
          THIS IS A, UH, PROGRAM, REALLY IMPORTANT PROGRAM. 
          UM, AND UNFORTUNATELY WE'VE SEEN ALL TOO MANY EXAMPLES OF WHEN IT, IT NEEDS TO BE UTILIZED. 
          BUT THIS IS, UM, UH, POLICE, UH, DEPARTMENT PERSONNEL THAT ARE TRAINED TO PROVIDE PEER SUPPORT TO THEIR, TO THEIR FELLOW COWORKERS AFTER A TRAUMATIC INCIDENT. 
          AND THIS WOULD ALLOW SOME ADDITIONAL TRAINING TO TAKE. 
          SO IT'S A TRAIN THE TRAINER, IF YOU WILL, KIND OF A SITUATION, BUT IT'LL CREATE A LARGER POOL OF, UM, OF, OF, UH, POLICE PERSONNEL, UM, THAT CAN PERFORM THIS, UH, THIS, UH, UH, PURE SUPPORT ROLE, UH, IN TIMES OF NEED. 
          AND THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT INITIATIVES, THIS IS THINGS LIKE, UM, UNIDOS, THINGS LIKE, UH, OTHER, UM, OUTREACH PROGRAMS. AND SO WE ARE PROPOSING TO INCREASE THAT BUDGET FOR THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT INITIATIVES WITHIN THE R P D BY $10,000 OVER, UH, THE PRIOR YEAR ON THE FIRE SIDE. 
          UM, UH, THE ADDITION OF THREE FIREFIGHTERS, UH, WHICH WILL BE HOUSED AT FIRE STATION. 
          ONE FOR THE BLOCKING APPARATUS. 
          AND, UM, SO EVEN SINCE, UM, CHIEF VY AND CHIEF TITTLE HERE FOR THEIR ANNUAL REPORT, WE'VE HAD A FIRE, UH, FIRE TRUCK 
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ON US 85 BE HIT FROM BEHIND WHILE BLOCKING. 
          AND IF THAT TRUCK WOULDN'T HAVE NOT BEEN THERE, THE SITUATION WOULD'VE BEEN WAY MORE DIRE, UM, THAN IT HAS. 
          AND SO IT'S BEEN A VERY EFFECTIVE TOOL. 
          THIS WILL PROVIDE 24 7 COVERAGE FOR THE BLOCKING APPARATUS. 
          UM, LEMME TALK THEN ABOUT THE NEXT TWO, UM, UH, INITIATIVES HERE IN CONJUNCTION. 
          SO YOU SEE SIX ADDITIONAL FIREFIGHTERS, UH, AND TWO PART-TIME FIRE INSPECTORS FOR AN OVERTIME REDUCTION INITIATIVE. 
          UM, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT OVERTIME IS, UH, NEARING $3 MILLION A YEAR, AND A GOOD BIT OF THAT IS MANDATORY OVERTIME. 
          SO, UM, ON EVERY FIRE SHIFT, THERE'S A MINIMUM NUMBER OF, UM, THERE'S A MINIMUM MANNING THAT'S REQUIRED BY THE STATE OF TEXAS. 
          SO IF WE EVER FALL BELOW THAT MANNING, ONE ADDITIONAL FIREFIGHTER HAS TO BE BROUGHT ON TO COVER THAT, AND THAT FIREFIGHTER IS GONNA MAKE, UH, OVERTIME TO DO THAT, IS GONNA BE PAID OVERTIME TO DO THAT. 
          OR, UH, SOMETIMES EVEN MORE COSTLY, SOMEONE WILL STEP DOWN FROM A CAPTAIN POSITION, FOR INSTANCE, TO, TO FILL THAT SEED ON THE AMBULANCE, AS COUNCILMAN HUTCHIN RIDER WAS SAYING, 'CAUSE IT'S MANDATORY. 
          UM, WHAT THIS IS GONNA ALLOW US TO DO IS TO HAVE, UM, INITIALLY ONE AND THEN TWO, LET'S CALL 'EM FLOATERS, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD. 
          SO, OUT OF SIX STATIONS AND OUT OF 43 MANDATORY SPOTS EVERY SINGLE DAY, THE CHANCES THAT ALL 43 PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE THERE ARE VERY LIMITED. 
          WE'VE, WE'VE LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS YEAR AFTER YEAR. 
          I MEAN, YOU'VE GOT VACATIONS, YOU HAVE UNEXPECTED SICK LEAVE, YOU HAVE TRAINING, YOU HAVE, UM, JUST VACATION. 
          UM, THERE'S ALL KINDS OF REASONS THAT TWO OF THOSE 43 PEOPLE MAY NOT BE THERE. 
          UM, THIS, THESE FLOATER POSITIONS, LET'S SAY I'M OUT TODAY SICK AT FIRE STATION SIX. 
          ONE OF THE FLOATER POSITIONS WILL TAKE MY, UH, UH, SPOT ON THE AMBULANCE OR THE FIRETRUCK AT REGULAR PAY. 
          YOU KNOW, IF COUNCILMAN BARRIOS IS OUT AT FIRE STATION TWO THAT SAME DAY, THE OTHER FLOATER WILL GO THERE AND AT REGULAR PAY FILL THAT SPOT. 
          THIS WILL NOT ONLY LONG-TERM, WE BELIEVE SAVE US DOLLARS, AS I JUST DESCRIBED, UH, IT WILL ALSO REDUCE THE MANDATORY OVERTIME. 
          UM, YOU SEE THERE, THE, THE, THE COST OF THE SIX FIREFIGHTERS RIGHT NOW TO KEEP UP WITH OUR, TO KEEP UP WITH THE INSPECTION REQUIREMENTS OF OUR ISO ONE RATING, UM, WE'RE HAVING TO PAY PART, UH, WE'RE HAVING TO PAY FIREFIGHTERS, UM, UM, SOMETIMES ON THEIR REGULAR HOURS, BUT MORE OFTEN NOT, NOT, WE'RE PAYING THEM OVERTIME TO GO CONDUCT INSPECTIONS THAT ARE REQUIRED TO BE CONDUCTED BY A CERTAIN, UH, DEADLINE. 
          UM, AND SO BY BRINGING ON THE TWO PART-TIME FIREFIGHTERS FOR $69,000, THIS IS IMMEDIATELY A NET ZERO, UH, PROPOSITION. 
          THE BENEFIT IS THOSE FIREFIGHTERS ON AT BEING ASKED TO WORK OVERTIME TO, TO CONDUCT THOSE INSPECTIONS BEFORE THE, THE TIME, UH, SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO ADHERE TO THE I S O RATINGS. 
          AND SO WE BELIEVE BOTH OF THESE LONG TERM, UM, COULD BE, UM, WILL BE OVERTIME REDUCTION INITIATIVES. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, CHIEF VY HAS WARNED ME OVER AND OVER, THE SIX FIREFIGHTERS ARE, IT'S GONNA TAKE SOME TIME FOR THAT TO WORK IN. 
          UH, FIRST THEY'VE GOTTA HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE ACADEMY, THEY'VE GOTTA GET ON SHIFT. 
          UH, YOU MIGHT SAY, WELL, WHAT HAPPENS IF ALL 43 FIREFIGHTERS DO SHOW UP ONE DAY? WHAT WILL THESE TWO DO? WE COULD PUT A NEW AMBULANCE INTO SERVICE, THEY COULD GO CONDUCT SOME ADDITIONAL FIRE INSPECTIONS. 
          THERE'S NOT GONNA BE A LACK OF SOMETHING FOR THEM TO DO. 
          BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING HERE, AND WE, I I THINK YOU'VE HEARD IT OVER THE YEARS, I HEAR IT FROM, UM, OUR, OUR PARTNERS IN THE FIRE, UM, DEPARTMENT, AND THE FIRE ASSOCIATION IS REDUCING THAT MANDATORY OVERTIME SO THAT, UM, IT'S NOT, IT DOESN'T EXASPERATE EXASPERATE THE SITUATION WHEN THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE ASKED TO STAY ON NOW 72 OR MAYBE EVEN 96 HOURS IN SOME CASES, THE WAY THEIR SHIFT WORKS. 
          I MENTIONED THE MENTAL HEALTH WELLNESS CHECKS THAT'LL BE ADDED, YOU SEE THERE, THE PHYSICAL CHECKS ALREADY IN PLACE THERE. 
          AND THEN A, UM, SOME SOFTWARE FOR THEM TO WORK THEIR DRONE. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE SEEN ON THEIR SOCIAL MEDIA. 
          UH, THERE WAS A FIRE ON THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN THE OTHER DAY, AND THEY WERE ACTUALLY ABLE TO USE THE DRONE TO GO IN AND DO SOME SURVEILLANCE, UM, ABOVE, UH, THE ROOF LINE, UH, TO KIND OF GET A FEEL FOR WHERE WAS, UH, YOU KNOW, WHERE IF THERE WERE ANY FAILURES THAT HAD ALREADY HAD OCCURRED. 
          SO THIS INFORMATION THAT THEY'RE GETTING BACK IN REAL TIME FROM THE DRONE IS, UH, HELPING THEM MORE STRATEGICALLY FIGHT FIRES. 
          AND SO IT'S A, IT'S MUCH LIKE THE POLICE HAVE UTILIZED IT IN TERMS OF OUR CAPITAL REPLACEMENT FUNDS. 
          SO THESE ARE ALL CAPITAL ITEMS HERE. 
          YOU SEE IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE REPLACING 15 OF THE, UH, UH, VEHICLES IN, IN THE FLEET. 
          THAT'S OUR REGULAR ROTATION. 
          UH, WE'RE, WE'RE PROPOSING 20 FLOCK SAFETY CAMERAS. 
          SO THESE ARE, THESE ARE CAMERAS THAT HAVE BEEN HIGHLY EFFECTIVE ALREADY AS THEY'VE BEEN DEPLOYED IN SOLVING CRIME. 
          AS A MATTER OF FACT, A PLANO CAMERA JUST RECENTLY, UH, WAS, UH, WAS THE, UH, WAS WHAT RESULTED IN US, UH, TAKING A, A PRETTY SERIOUS SITUATION AND ACTUALLY APPREHENDING THE, UH, THE PERPETRATOR OF THAT SITUATION WITHIN ABOUT TWO HOURS OF THE SITUATION. 
          AND THE INFORMATION WE WERE ABLE TO ACHIEVE WERE FROM THESE CAMERAS AS THAT PERSON TRAVELED THROUGH PLANO. 
          SO THIS WILL BE LO THESE WILL BE 20, UH, CAMERAS THAT WE CAN LOCATE STRATEGICALLY THROUGHOUT THE CITY. 
          AND THEN BODY WOR, UH, BODY-WORN CAMERAS AND TASERS 
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FOR OUR DIRECT, UH, DETENTION OFFICE STAFF. 
          UH, REALLY A BEST PRACTICE NOW. 
          UM, AND, UH, THE BODY-WORN CAMERAS, JUST LIKE FOR OUR POLICE OFFICERS, UH, A REAL ASSURANCE, IF YOU WILL, TO THOSE FOLKS IN THE JAIL DOING THIS, THIS DIFFICULT JOB THAT, UH, ALWAYS AN ACCURATE DESCRIPTION OF WHAT HAPPENS, UH, WITHIN THAT BUILDING WILL BE PORTRAYED. 
          THEY WILL HAVE THESE ON JUST LIKE THE POLICE OFFICERS, AND EVERY TIME THEY ENGAGE, ANYTIME THEY DO ANYTHING, UH, THEY'LL HAVE THOSE, UH, CAMERAS, UH, TO VIDEOTAPE THAT ON THE FIRE SIDE. 
          UH, MUCH BIGGER, UH, ITEMS THERE, YOU SEE THE PUMPER TRUCK AND THE AMBULANCE. 
          WE'VE BRIEFED YOU ON THOSE, UH, TWO COMMAND VEHICLES. 
          UH, ONE VEHICLE, A HYBRID VEHICLE, UH, FOR THE TWO INSPECTORS, THE PART-TIME INSPECTORS TO SHARE, UM, UH, THE, UH, HIGH PRESSURE AIRBAGS, UH, THAT YOU SEE HERE, A PICTURE AT THE TOP RIGHT. 
          UH, THIS IS A FASTER AND MUCH SAFER WAY FOR THE, UH, THE, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO RESPOND, UH, TO CRASHES, PARTICULARLY ON US 75 WHEN THEY'RE TRYING TO GET IN AND GET OUT MUCH QUICKER. 
          THEY CAN SIMPLY HOOK A, UM, A, UH, A AIRBAG TO THIS DEVICE AND IT WILL HIDE, YOU KNOW, LIFT UP THE VEHICLE IN A, IN A VERY QUICK AND TIMELY WAY, MUCH SAFER OVERALL. 
          AND THEN YOU SEE THE, THE DRY SUITS AND, AND THE RESCUE BOAT, UH, FOR THAT SPECIAL OPERATION ON FIRE STATION FOUR. 
          AND THEN YOU SEE THERE THE REPLACEMENT OF EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER, OUR SECURITY CAMERAS. 
          SO AT THE MUNICIPAL COURT AND HERE AT THE E O C, UH, WE'RE TRYING TO BRING, UH, THESE CAMERAS, THESE CAMERAS ARE, BUT IN BOTH LOCATIONS, A DECADE OLD OR SO, WE'RE TRYING TO BRING THEM MORE IN LINE, UM, AND UTILIZE THE SAME CAMERAS AND SOFTWARE THAT WE'RE USING AT OTHER FACILITIES. 
          UM, SO ONE, IT'S EASIER TO MAINTAIN 'EM, UH, BUT TWO, WE HAVE THE SAME LEVEL OF SECURITY AND FEEDBACK THROUGH THAT VIDEO, UH, THAT WE HAVE. 
          UH, IDEALLY, YOU KNOW, IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A STRETCH BECAUSE NOT ALL FACILITIES ARE, ARE THE SAME, NOT ALL PHYSICALLY EVEN, UH, ALLOW FOR THE SAME, BUT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO GET ON THE LEAST NUMBER OF, UH, TYPE THE LEAST TYPE NUMBER OF TYPES OF CAMERAS AND AS CONSISTENT OF SOFTWARE AS WE CAN CITYWIDE. 
          AND THIS IS IMPORTANT, UH, PROJECTS, UH, TO THAT END, UM, INFRASTRUCTURE UP NEXT, THE THIRD, UH, KEY BUDGET FOCUS AREA HERE, YOU'LL SEE A GRAND TOTAL OF ALMOST $2 MILLION, UH, OF INFRASTRUCTURE RAISING OUR TOTAL, UH, YEARLY INFRASTRUCTURE BUDGET NOW TO OVER $20 MILLION. 
          SO SOME CONTINUED KEY INVESTMENTS ARE IN OUR SCREENING WALLS, ENTRY FEATURES AND BRIDGES. 
          SO YOU RECALL LAST YEAR THAT WE WERE ABLE TO INCREASE, UH, THAT DOLLAR, NOW THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT FOR WALL WASHING AND PAINTING AS WHERE, AS WELL AS THE REPAIRED MAINTENANCE OF THE WALLS AND ENTRY FEATURES TO THAT. 
          DOWN AT THE BOTTOM NOW YOU'RE SEE AN ADDITIONAL $50,000 BEING ADDED FOR WASHINGTON REPAIR OF THE ENTRY FEATURES. 
          SO NOW WE HAVE THE WALLS, THE ENTRY FEATURES, UM, UH, ALL UNDER, UM, THIS PROGRAM. 
          UH, WE TALKED IN THE TRANSPORTATION, I'M SORRY, I'M SORRY. 
          CAN I ASK A QUESTION BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THIS? REGARDING, AND I APOLOGIZE WHEN I HAVE MY GLASSES ON. 
          I, THAT'S, YOU ALL LOOK LIKE PICASSO, SO I CAN'T, YOU'LL HAVE TO, YOU'LL HAVE TO REALLY FLAG ME DOWN IF I HAVE THESE. 
          THAT'S ALL RIGHT. 
          I WAS WAITING FOR YOU TALK FAST. 
          I WAS WAITING FOR THE RIGHT MOMENT TO JUMP IN THERE. 
          UM, QUICK QUESTION. 
          THE TWO PART-TIME FIRE INSPECTORS MM-HMM. 
          , UH, IMAGINE ESPECIALLY A HIGHLY TRAINED POSITION SUCH AS THAT FOR A PART-TIME POSITION. 
          IS, ARE THESE, ARE WE GOING HAVE TO RETIREES? MM-HMM. 
          , IS THAT KIND OF WHAT THE GOAL IS THERE? YEAH, IT'LL BE SOME, IT'LL BE A LOT LIKE THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD POLICE OFFICERS WHERE WE HAVE FOLKS THAT HAVE ALL THE TRAIN. 
          IDEALLY THEY'LL HAVE ALL THE TRAINING, ALL THE EXPERIENCE. 
          THEY CAN JUST MOVE RIGHT INTO THE JOB. 
          AM I LOOKING FOR PART-TIME? MM-HMM. 
           NOT READY TO QUITE RETIRE YET, BUT YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          LIKE AN ED COLEMAN. 
          YEAH, THE FIRE VERSION OF IT. 
          . 
          UM, LET'S SEE. 
          OKAY, SO TALKED ABOUT SCREENING WALLS. 
          ADDITIONAL $50 FOR THE ENTRY FEATURE WALL WASHING. 
          UM, WE TALKED IN THE TRANSPORTATION MOBILITY DEEP DIVE. 
          YOU SEE THE 2 44. 
          NOW THAT'S NOT TO DO MORE, THAT'S JUST TO DO WHAT, UM, WE WERE DOING. 
          BUT THOSE WERE THE, THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH INFLATION. 
          UH, WE'LL COME BACK TO TRANSPORTATION MOBILITY THOUGH, BECAUSE WE ARE ADDING A GREAT DEAL TO, UH, TRANSPORTATION MOBILITY IN TERMS OF ADDITIONAL PROGRAMMING. 
          UM, $100,000 ADDITIONAL IN STREETS FOR LOCALIZED CONCRETE REPAIR. 
          UH, THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF JUST THE, THE, JUST THE BASIC COST OF CONCRETE HAS GONE UP SO MUCH. 
          WE'RE DOING LESS LOCALIZED REPAIRS. 
          SO THIS WILL ADD, UM, SOME ADDITIONAL RESOURCES AS WELL AS BEING ABLE TO USE A CONTRACTOR, UM, TO DO THAT. 
          UM, SOME OF THE BIGGER TICKET ITEMS, OBVIOUSLY, WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS LATER IN THE DEBT PORTION, BUT YOU SEE THE $67.5 MILLION THERE AS PART OF YEAR THREE OF THE BOND PROGRAM. 
          $19.7 MILLION IN DEBT AND CASH FUNDING FOR, UH, UH, WATER AND WASTEWATER CAPITAL. 
          UH, WE TALKED ABOUT THE DRAINAGE, UH, PROGRAM, UH, LAST, UH, WEEK, UH, ON THE, UH, DEDICATIONS, THE TRANSFER OUTS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT. 
          YOU'LL SEE HERE ON THE STREETS WE'RE INDEXING TO THAT, UH, ABOUT 3.87 CENTS, UH, PERCENT OR SO THAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING RIGHT NOW, AN ADDITIONAL 180,070 $2,000, RESPECTFULLY, ADDITIONAL $18,000 THERE ON THE PARKS MAINTENANCE, AND THEN ADDITIONAL 18,000 ON FACILITIES. 
          HOWEVER, THERE IS A ONE-TIME ALLOCATION THAT WE'RE PROPOSING IN THIS BUDGET OF $250,000, UM, TO HELP CATCH UP, IF YOU WILL, ON SOME DEFERRED MAINTENANCE. 
          UM, AND WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT 
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MORE ABOUT THAT. 
          BUT, UM, THAT ALLOCATION IS A ONE-TIME ALLOCATION, WE BELIEVE THAT WILL KIND OF RIGHT SIZE US, IF YOU WILL. 
          I MENTIONED THE INFLATIONARY PRESSURES AND THE EXISTING TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY WORK. 
          UM, WE ALSO TALKED TO YOU ABOUT GETTING THE, UH, SIGNS AND MARKINGS AND THE, UH, UM, THE, UH, ADDITIONAL SIGNS AND MARKINGS ON THAT FIVE YEAR CYCLE. 
          THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL 233. 
          GOOD, BLESS YOU. 
          UM, THE PAVEMENT MARKINGS FOR THE BIKE LANES, THAT WAS THE ADDITIONAL $175,000 TO STREETLIGHT MAINTENANCE, ADDITIONAL 70,000, THE ENHANCED SIGNAL BUDGET, THAT ADDITIONAL 61,000. 
          UM, AND SO ALL OF THESE ADDING UP TO, UH, FURTHER INFRASTRUCTURE ENHANCEMENTS IN OUR TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY REALM. 
          UH, AND THEN YOU SEE THERE, THE KEY CAPITAL, UH, REPLACEMENT FUND INVESTMENTS, I WON'T GO THROUGH THOSE. 
          THOSE ARE SOME OF OUR, JUST OUR NUTS AND BOLTS EQUIPMENT AND VEHICLES THAT WE NEED, UM, TO BE ABLE TO KIND OF DO THIS, UH, THIS WORK. 
          UM, IF YOU TAKE THOSE THREE KEY FOCUS AREAS, AND AT THIS TIME ANTICIPATING THAT $13 MILLION, AND THAT'LL BE A GOOD NUMBER TO KEEP IN YOUR MIND, 13 MILLION. 
          'CAUSE WHEN WE COME BACK, UH, TO FURTHER EXPLORE THE BUDGET, UM, AFTER I FILE, THAT WOULD BE THE NUMBER THAT YOU'D BE LOOKING FOR TO CHANGE, TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE SOME OF THAT 6% WITHOUT IMPACT IN ANY OF THIS OTHER WORK THAT WE'VE DESCRIBED. 
          BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE $13 MILLION, AND WE IMPLEMENT EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE JUST TALKED ABOUT, AND WE SET ASIDE $3.5 MILLION TO MAINTAIN OUR 90 DAY FUND BALANCE, WHICH OF COURSE WE NEED EVERY TIME WE HAVE INCREASES IN OUR, OUR VALUES, WE NEED ADDITIONAL DOLLARS TO MAINTAIN THAT FUND BALANCE. 
          YOU'RE LEFT WITH A TOTAL OF $3.9 MILLION MORE REVENUE TO DO EVERYTHING ELSE. 
          3.9 MORE TO DO EVERYTHING ELSE. 
          SO LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. 
          LET ME FIRST, UM, TALK ABOUT SOME ORGANIZATIONAL, UM, CHALLENGES THAT, UM, I WANT TO BE RESPONSIVE TO IN THIS BUDGET. 
          UM, SO IF YOU LOOK HERE, YOU SEE, UM, A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT DIVISIONS I WANNA DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO, TO TWO, UH, PREDOMINANTLY, UH, ONE BEING FINANCE. 
          AND YOU SEE THERE'S ACCOUNTING FLEET, FRANCHISE MATERIAL MANAGEMENT, MUNICIPAL COURT PURCHASING, TAX AND WATER, AND CUSTOMER SERVICE UNDER FINANCE. 
          AND THEN I'LL DRAW YOUR, YOUR ATTENTION TO, UH, THE CAPITAL PROJECTS AND ENGINEERING, UM, WHICH IS ALSO INCLUDES FACILITY MAINTENANCE AS WELL AS CUSTODIAL SERVICES. 
          UM, NOW WE HAD, UH, CROW HERE LAST WEEK, UH, AND THEY TALKED ABOUT SOME CHALLENGES THAT WE HAD. 
          WE PROVIDED YOU WITH SOME DEEP BACKGROUND ON THAT AND EXPLAIN WHAT THOSE CHALLENGES WERE FOR, UH, WHAT THOSE CHALLENGES WERE AS A RESULT. 
          AS, UH, EVERYBODY KNOWS, YOU KNOW, KEITH IS GONNA BE RETIRING AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER, AND ANITA KAHAN WILL BE JOINING US ON THE SEPTEMBER 11TH. 
          WHAT I'VE INCLUDED IN THIS BUDGET FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, UM, IS, UM, UH, TWO NEW POSITIONS IN ACCOUNTING. 
          UH, ONE WITH ANITA'S, UH, FEEDBACK. 
          AND KEITH'S GOOD AT GUIDANCE AS HE'S, UH, TAKING, UH, LEAVE HERE WILL BE TO ADD AN ACCOUNTANT OR AN ACCOUNTANT PROFESSIONAL THAT WILL BE SOLELY RESPONSIBLE FOR ADDRESSING THE ISSUES. 
          AND ON A, FOR ONGOING AND FORWARD BASIS, ADDRESSING THE ISSUES THAT WERE IDENTIFIED. 
          I E UM, BE BANK RECONCILIATION FUNCTION AND SOME OF THE CASH, UH, MANAGEMENT, UM, UH, UH, UM, CONFIRMATION WORK THAT WE TALKED ABOUT. 
          UM, THIS POSITION WILL BE SOLELY RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT. 
          AND WITH ANITA'S, AGAIN, WITH ANITA KENT, THE TEAM'S HELP. 
          WE'LL DECIDE EXACTLY WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. 
          UM, WE DON'T WANNA BE PREMATURE AND DO THAT BEFORE A NEW DIRECTOR OF FINANCE STARTS. 
          SO WE WANNA, BUT WE WANNA RESERVE THOSE DOLLARS. 
          UH, THE OTHER KEY FUNCTION IN THAT AREA IS, IS PAYROLL. 
          UH, IN, IN ACCOUNTING. 
          UM, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ONE PAYROLL SPECIALIST, AS WE'VE IMPLEMENTED A LOT OF OUR NEW SYSTEMS AND WE'VE GROWN AS AN ORGANIZATION. 
          UM, THAT'S, UM, THAT'S NOT A REAL RESILIENT PLAN , UH, TO HAVE ALL OF THOSE FUNCTIONS IN ONE PERSON. 
          UM, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT COULD GO WRONG WITH THAT. 
          UM, AND, UM, WE WANNA DO SOME SUCCESSION PLANNING, SO WE'LL BRING ON A PERSON THAT WILL TRAIN, BE A FULLY FUNCTIONING BACKUP AND SUPPORT THAT PERSON, BUT ALSO PROBABLY BE ABLE TO ADD SOME VALUE IN SOME OTHER WAYS IN THE ACCOUNTING DEPARTMENT AND THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT. 
          UM, THE SECOND THING WE WANNA FOCUS ON IS, UH, CAPITAL PROJECTS. 
          UM, AGAIN, UH, WE HAD A, I WANNA REMIND YOU, WE HAVE A, UH, WE PRESENTED TO YOU LAST DECEMBER, A $400 MILLION, FIVE YEAR CAPITAL PLAN THAT WAS CHANGED OVERNIGHT WITH THE CITY HALL FIRE. 
          AND NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT CLOSER TO A $500 MILLION, UH, CAPITAL PLAN THAT INCLUDES THE NEW CONSTRUCTION OF A BRAND OF A NEW CITY HALL, AS WELL AS THE MORE SIGNIFICANT RENOVATION NOW OF THE LIBRARY. 
          UM, I'M, I'LL SAY IT LIKE THIS, WE CAN NO LONGER HAVE ENGINEERS FOCUSING ON, UH, UH, UM, UM, MANAGING, UH, FOLKS THAT ARE REPLACING AIR FILTERS OR CUS OR PROVIDING CUSTODIAL SERVICES. 
          WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT A BETTER SOLUTION FOR THAT. 
          WE NEED TO LET THE ENGINEERS AND THE PROJECT MANAGERS FOCUS ENTIRELY ON THIS $500 MILLION CAPITAL PLAN, UM, SO THAT WE CAN DO IT RIGHT, AND WE WON'T HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, MISCUES. 
          UM, AND, AND WE NEED TO ENGAGE AECOM IN A MORE, UH, DELIBERATE WAY. 
          AND I BELIEVE THAT THIS PLAN THAT I'LL SHARE WITH YOU, UM, WILL DO THAT. 
          THE OTHER THING THAT I, I BELIEVE WE REALLY WANT TO DO IS WE WANT TO, UM, CREATE AN INTERNAL FOCUSED DEPARTMENT, UM, THAT WILL FOCUS, UM, ON FACILITIES AND 
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FLEET. 
          AND SO RECALL, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT WERE NOT HERE LAST YEAR, LAST YEAR, THERE WAS A POSITION THAT WAS APPROVED IN THE BUDGET THAT I NEVER FILLED. 
          IT WAS THE DI IT WAS A, IT WAS GONNA, WE WERE GONNA CREATE A, A FACILITIES DEPARTMENT. 
          THIS BUILDING. 
          I MEAN, IF YOU THINK ABOUT WE HAVE OVER A MILLION SQUARE FEET OF SPACE THAT WE NOW MAINTAIN EVERYTHING FROM SOPHISTICATED BUILDINGS LIKE THIS TO BUILDINGS THAT ARE LARGER, BUT 30 YEARS OLD, LIKE OUR SERVICE CENTER THAT, UM, DRAMATICALLY DIFFERENT SYSTEMS, DRAMATICALLY DIFFERENT SKILL SETS AND, AND BACKGROUND AND EXPERTISE TO MAINTAIN 'EM. 
          UM, WE'VE NEVER HAD A TRUE FACILITIES PROFESSIONAL MANAGING THESE BUILDINGS. 
          WE'VE ALWAYS UTILIZED OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS DEPARTMENT, OUR ENGINEERS. 
          MY THOUGHT LAST YEAR WAS TO BRING IN SOMEBODY THAT COULD MANAGE THAT WHEN THE FIRE HAPPENED. 
          THERE WERE SO MANY THINGS IN FLUXX, WE DIDN'T MOVE FORWARD, THAT WE REALLY WANTED TO SEE WHAT THAT TURNOUT WOULD BE. 
          SINCE THEN. 
          AND BECAUSE, UH, IN ADDITION TO THE FUNDING THAT I'VE DESCRIBED THAT I WANT FOR THE ACCOUNTING DEPARTMENT, UM, I WANNA RELIEVE, UM, SOME PRESSURE OFF OF FINANCE IN GENERAL. 
          AND I WANT TO REMOVE FLEET FROM FINANCE, AND I WANNA CREATE A DEPARTMENT OF FACILITIES AND FLEET. 
          UM, MANY CITIES HAVE DONE THIS BECAUSE THEY'RE BOTH INTERNAL SERVICING DEPARTMENTS. 
          UH, THEY BOTH HAVE MANY OF THE SAME SKILL SETS. 
          IT'S A, IT'S A, UH, PROJECT. 
          I MEAN, IT'S A ASSET MANAGEMENT, PROJECT MANAGEMENT, UH, PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE. 
          UM, ALL OF THE DIFFERENT SKILL SETS REALLY ALIGN. 
          NOW, THEY'RE TWO VERY DIFFERENT WORLDS, NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. 
          BUT THE SKILL SETS AND THE EXPERIENCES AND, AND THE KIND, EVEN THE SOFTWARE THAT YOU USE TO DO THIS ASSET MANAGEMENT, UM, IS VERY SIMILAR. 
          SO, UM, WHAT I'M PROPOSING TO YOU, UM, IS THE CREATION OF THIS DEPARTMENT. 
          UM, WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA BEGIN, UM, AGAIN, IN TERMS OF THE, THE DIRECTOR, IT'S ALREADY FUNDED. 
          SO IT'S REALLY JUST ME REASSIGNING THE RESPONSIBILITIES FROM FACILITIES TO FACILITIES AND FLEET. 
          BUT THAT FREES UP THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT WITH THE OTHER RESOURCES GOING TO THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT IN THE COUNTY. 
          AND I BELIEVE WE WILL BE IN A GOOD POSITION, UM, TO, UM, TO MOVE FORWARD. 
          UM, UM, ON THE, UH, FACILITIES, I'M SORRY, ON THE FLEET SIDE, UM, WE CURRENTLY HAVE A MANAGER OF A FLEET WHO, UH, THEN THE NEXT HIGHEST LEVEL POSITION, UH, IS A, IS A, UH, MECHANIC, A FLEET TECHNICIAN, MECHANIC TYPE PERSON, UM, THAT THE FLEET MANAGER, UM, WILL PROBABLY, UH, RETIRE IN THE COMING THE NEAR THE NEAR TERM. 
          UM, AND WHAT I'M PROPOSING IS TO CREATE AN ASSISTANT FLEET MANAGER POSITION, UH, FOR SUCCESSION PLANNING. 
          UM, UH, WE HAVE A, A WONDERFUL FLEET MANAGER WHO HAS DONE A VERY EXCELLENT JOB HERE AT THE CITY OF RICHARDSON. 
          BUT, UM, HE'S DONE HIS DONE RIGHT BY THE ORGANIZATION AND LET US KNOW THAT THAT IS NOT LONG FOR THE WORLD ANYMORE. 
          AND SO I THINK WE CANNOT WAIT UNTIL THE LAST MINUTE TO GO OUT AND TO BRING SOMEBODY IN. 
          UH, IN THE MEANTIME, THIS ASSISTANT FLEET MANAGER POSITION WILL RELIEVE THAT PERSON, WHICH MAY MAKE 'EM STAY A LITTLE LONGER BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, UH, THE PERSON DOESN'T EVEN HAVE AN ADMIN SECRETARY. 
          AND SO IT'S A FLEET MANAGER TRYING TO DO, UH, MULTIPLE TASKS. 
          UM, AND, UH, WE, IT'S, IT'S, WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO DO THIS TO MAKE IT RIGHT. 
          ON THE FINANCE SIDE, I MENTIONED THE ACCOUNTING PROFESSIONAL POSITION AS WELL AS THE PAYROLL SPECIALIST. 
          AND ON THE CAPITAL PROJECT SIDE, UM, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS TO BRING IN A, A SENIOR LEVEL PROJECT MANAGER, A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER. 
          UM, AND, UH, WE HAVE IDEAS ABOUT HOW I WOULD UTILIZE THAT PERSON PROBABLY AS A BIG INTERFACE WITH AECOM, UM, UH, TAKE SOME OF THAT, UM, RESPONSIBILITY OFF OF JIM DULAC. 
          I MEAN, JIM DULAC HAS BEEN HERE DOING DEEP DIVES MORE THAN ANYBODY ELSE, AND HE'S BEEN HERE ON THE MOST DIVERSE SET OF TOPICS THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY HAVE, RIGHT? AND SO WE NEED TO HELP, WE NEED TO BRING IN SOME ADDITIONAL RESOURCES, PARTICULARLY ON THE CAPITAL PROJECT MANAGEMENT SIDE. 
          SO ONE OF ONE ALSO, YOU KNOW, TAKE SOME TIME TO BE VERY THOUGHTFUL ABOUT THAT. 
          THE SECOND POSITION WE'RE INTRODUCING THERE IS AN ENGINEERING TRAINING, THOUGH THIS GETS BACK TO OUR IDEA OF GROWING OUR OWN. 
          I BELIEVE WE CAN, WE CAN, AND, AND, UM, COUNCILMAN CHASSEL, UH, YOU PROBABLY HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH THIS. 
          I BELIEVE WE CAN FIND A VERY YOUNG ENGINEER WHO COMES IN AND WE'LL CREATE THE KIND OF PLACE THEY'LL WANT TO STAY. 
          AND THEN WHEN THAT ENGINEER GETS HIS LICENSING AND PROMOTES UP, WE'LL GO HIRE ANOTHER YOUNG ENGINEER AND WE'LL PROVE TO THEM THAT WE'RE THE RIGHT KIND OF PLACE TO WORK, AND WE WILL GROW OUR OWN ENGINEERS. 
          WE'VE GOTTA DO SOMETHING IN THIS REALM. 
          UM, THE REALITY IS, IS WE'RE HIRING CONSULTING FIRMS AND THEY COME MEET OUR ENGINEERS AND THEY HIRE 'EM AWAY FROM US. 
          THEY PAY 'EM MORE, AND THEN THEY PAY US. 
          THEY CHARGE US ONE AND A HALF TIMES FOR THAT SAME PERSON TO DO OUR WORK. 
          AND SO WE'VE GOT TO CREATE A PIPELINE, UH, OF ENGINEERS. 
          AND I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS THE WAY TO DO THAT. 
          WE MAY EVEN LOOK IN THE FUTURE IF WE'RE SUCCESSFUL IN THIS, AT ADDING MORE, UH, A SECOND, UH, POSITION. 
          BUT THAT WOULD BE FOR A FUTURE BUDGET DISCUSSION. 
          THAT'S A HIGH LEVEL, UM, UM, KIND OF REVIEW OF SOME OF THE ORGANIZATIONAL CHANGES. 
          A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS I WANNA MENTION FROM A, A STAFFING, UH, SIDE. 
          YOU WANNA ASK NOW? OH, YOU WANNA, UH, GO AHEAD. 
          CAN I ASK A QUESTION? SURE. 
          YOU, YOU CAN DRINK SOME WATER . 
          UH, THANK YOU. 
          UH, WELL, I'M GLAD THAT, UH, YOU ARE LETTING THE ENGINEER THINKS ONLY TOWARDS THE CAPITAL PROJECTS OR THE WAY THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BECAUSE FOCUSING, LOSING FOCUS ON CERTAIN THINGS, THEN DOING SOMETHING ELSE, YOU REALLY LOSE SOME VALUABLE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S A, THAT'S A GREAT THINGS QUESTION. 
          YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER. 
          YOU CAN 
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ANSWER SOME OTHER TIME. 
          IF THERE'S A TWO CRITICAL QUESTION. 
          IS THAT ON THE HR YOU HAVE ONLY ONE PERSON FOR THE PAYROLL? UH, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE CHECK HOW, IF THE PAYROLL PAYROLL WAS DONE CORRECTLY INSTEAD OF WAITING FOR THE YEARLY AUDIT, IS THERE SOME SOMETHING THAT ONGOING I LET KEN OR KEITH KIND OF TALK ABOUT THAT? UH, WE'VE ALWAYS HAD A BACKUP FOR THE PAYROLL PERSON. 
          IT'S JUST, IT WAS ONE OF THAT PERSON'S OTHER ROLES. 
          SO, UH, YOU MIGHT HAVE THE SECONDARY PERSON, UH, THEY COULD ALWAYS BE AVAILABLE FOR CHECKING, AND WE HAVE A ROBUST, UH, SUPERVISORY PROCESS, CHECKING OFF THE PAYROLL. 
          BUT, UH, UH, THESE SYSTEMS ARE COMPLICATED ENOUGH THAT JUST RUNNING PAYROLL ONCE EVERY THREE OR FOUR MONTHS IN A BACKUP ROLE WAS NOT ENOUGH TO REALLY STAY ACTIVE WITH IT. 
          SO THIS POSITION AS RECOMMENDED WOULD REALLY BE SOMEBODY WHO WOULD BE POTENTIALLY ALTERNATING EVERY OTHER PAYROLL SO THAT THEY ARE REALLY EMBEDDED IN THE PROCESS. 
          AND IT WOULD ALLOW OUR CURRENT, UH, UH, PERSON MORE TIME FOR, UH, TAKING VACATION WITHOUT FEELING ANY KIND OF GUILT OR, UH, JUST REDUCING THEIR STRESS LEVEL BECAUSE, UH, UH, WE FOUND THAT MOST ORGANIZATIONS OUR SIZE PROBABLY HAD AT LEAST TWO PEOPLE, UH, CERTAINLY, AND WERE AT THE SIZE AND COMPLEXITY THAT IT BECAME MORE CRITICAL. 
          THANKS, KEITH. 
          MY DAD, ONE MORE THING. 
          THE WAY THE CURRENT PROCESS WORKS IS IT HAS A BIG ROLE IN, IN STEPS THROUGHOUT THE PAYROLL PROCESS. 
          WHEN YOU HEARD DAN TALKING, HIS DEEP DIVE ABOUT THE NEW SYSTEMS REALLY REQUIRE THE DEPARTMENTS TO TAKE OWNERSHIP OF THE PROCESSES, FINANCE WILL HAVE A LITTLE BIT BIGGER ROLE IN TERMS OF THE PAYROLL PROCESS. 
          SO IN TERMS OF SOME OF THE CHECKS AND BALANCES YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THAT IS IMPORTANT TO HAVE TWO PEOPLE THERE THAT ARE, IS PART OF THAT PROCESS. 
          THERE'S, IT'S, IT'S VERY CRITICAL BECAUSE WHEN YOU ALREADY PROCESS SOMETHING IS GONE, UH, IT, MOST OF THE TIME WE DO THINGS AUTOMATED AND IT HAPPENS THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN. 
          YOU DON'T CATCH IT BECAUSE I SEE LIKE SO MANY NUMBERS. 
          I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU EVEN THINK ALL THIS NUMBER TYING TOGETHER, LOOKING AT THIS, UH, IT'S, IT'S VERY COMPLICATED. 
          SO IF YOU DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, THAT'S CRITICAL TO HAVE MULTIPLE PEOPLE, NOT JUST IT SIDE ALSO ACCOUNTING SIDE, BECAUSE EVEN THE OVERTIME, SOMETIMES IF YOU DON'T PAY THEM, YOU KNOW, ACCURATELY, IT'S A LIABILITY. 
          BUT IF YOU PAY MORE, YOU LOSE THINGS. 
          SO, AND KNOWING THIS, IT HAPPENS, UH, THE MORE PEOPLE YOU HAVE, THE MORE COMPLICATED THINGS GET. 
          SO ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO KNOW. 
          I I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. 
          AND I'LL TELL YOU, YOU KNOW, THE WAY FIRE AND POLICE WORK, UH, PAYROLL IS EXTREMELY COMPLICATED. 
          , WHEN YOU'RE WORKING A 48 96 SHIFT, AND THEN YOU START, I, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S A, YEAH. 
          DIFFERENTIAL IS YOU ADD THE, THE, THE WAY THEY ADDRESS HOLIDAYS AND THEY MANAGE, IT'S A, IT'S A VERY, IT'S WAY MORE COM I THINK IT'S, IT'S SIGNIFICANTLY MORE COMPLICATED THAN A TRADITIONAL, YOU KNOW, OFFICE SETTING. 
          UM, ANYTIME YOU HAVE A 24 7 OPERATION LIKE THIS, YEAH. 
          NOW ADDING THAT FLOATING ONE DAY, THAT'S GONNA, I HOPE YOU'LL GET USED TO IT. 
          THEN WE'LL GET THAT. 
          MR. CORCORAN REAL, UM, DAWN, REAL QUICK, JUST, IT'S SOMETHING THAT I'VE KIND OF BEEN FOLLOWING EVERY BUDGET. 
          I'M JUST GONNA ASK MORE FROM MY OWN TALKING POINTS TO RESIDENTS. 
          THE $100,000 FOR CONCRETE, BUT THEN YOU PUT, I THINK, CONTRACT ON THERE VERSUS THE STREET POLICY OF $25,000. 
          THOSE TWO INCREASES. 
          DID YOU, DID I SEE SOMETHING ON THERE? MAYBE? UH, LEMME SEE. 
          WE'RE GOING KIND OF FAST. 
          I MAY HAVE WRITTEN DOWN. 
          YEAH, I'M SORRY. 
          A WRONG NUMBER SOMEWHERE. 
          SO UNDER STREETS IS THOUGH, THAT'S THE CAPITAL, THE STREET. 
          SO, SO THE, THE TOP BULLET, I'M SORRY. 
          OKAY. 
          ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE HERE, THIS IS THE, THE, YOU KNOW, THE PENNY TAX, IF YOU WILL. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO THIS IS THE TRANSFER OUT. 
          SO THIS IS WHAT WE USE TO DO COLLECTORS, WELL, ARTERIAL, UH, COLLECTORS AND NEIGHBORHOOD ZONES. 
          THAT'S THE FULL DEPTH CONCRETE REPLACEMENT. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , THAT'S THE, UH, 4.8 MILLION. 
          UM, AND THE 1.9 MILLION, UH, FOR ALLEYS, UM, OH, THE STREET. 
          THAT WAS THE FIRST. 
          THIS ONE HERE? YES. 
          YES. 
          THIS IS, SO THIS IS THAT. 
          WHAT IS, WHAT IS THAT? THIS IS, THIS IS STREET OPERATIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THIS IS NOT A TRANSFER OUT. 
          THIS REMAINS IN THE STREETS. 
          DEPAR, UH, STREET DEPARTMENT'S BUDGET, AND THEY CAN UTILIZE IT TO DO THEIR OWN LOCALIZED REPAIR. 
          SO THIS WOULD BE DONE BY CITY STAFF, NOT BY THE CONTRACTOR THAT WE USE FOR THE PENNY TAX. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT'S FOR LABOR, NOT FOR MATERIALS, OR FOR BOTH. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          IT'S MISUNDERSTOOD. 
          IT'S, BUT THEY WOULD ALLOW, UH, STREETS TO, UH, USE THE CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE TO DO SOME ADDITIONAL REPAIR THAT'S BEYOND THE SCOPE THAT THEIR STAFF CAN DO AT THE TIME. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IT'S AN, IT IS AN ADDITIONAL FUNDING SOURCE FOR THEM TO, TO, UM, ADDRESS SOME STREET NEEDS. 
          BUT IT WOULD BE IN ADDITION TO WHAT WE WERE KIND OF DOING WITH THE PENNY TAX. 
          OKAY. 
          RIGHT. 
          IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT OVERLAPPING. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IF I, LET'S SAY OUR STREET CREW COULDN'T GET, LET'S SAY WE DID, LET'S SAY WE REPAIRED A WATER LINE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THERE WAS A PANEL THAT WAS, THAT WAS, UH, TAKEN OUT AND OUR STREET CREW COULD NOT GET 
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TO THAT PANEL. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , THEY COULD USE A CONTRA, THEY COULD USE THEIR OWN OPERATIONS DOLLAR TO PAY THE CONTRACTOR TO GO FILL IN THAT ONE PANEL. 
          OKAY. 
          TO GO POUR THAT ONE PANEL. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. 
          IS THAT RIGHT MR. BARRIOS? THANK YOU. 
          UH, DON, JUST TO CLARIFY THIS ON THE ORGANIZATIONAL STAFFING CHANGES STRUCTURE, I, I KNOW THERE'S AN OPEN A C M POSITION MM-HMM. 
          , UM, BUT IT DOESN'T REFLECT IT ON THERE. 
          JUST TO CLARIFY, YOU'RE NOT ABSORBING THAT POSITION ONCE YOU, OH, ORG, ORG CHART THAT POSITION. 
          YES. 
          CHART. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          SO OBVIOUSLY THAT'S GONNA KIND OF MOVE AS THAT POSITION'S FILLED. 
          THAT'S NOT INDICATING YOU'VE DECIDED TO ABSORB OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? NO, NO. 
          IT'S JUST, UH, THIS IS JUST WHAT IT IS AS, AS OF TODAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GREAT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          LET'S SEE HERE. 
          UH, SO JUST A, A COUPLE OTHER, UH, POINTS OF INTEREST. 
          UM, UM, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY AND I THINK IT'S THE RIGHT TIME TO TAKE IT. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE REALLY EXCITED LAST YEAR TO CREATE A CULTURAL ARTS COORDINATOR POSITION. 
          UH, THAT WAS A, A PART-TIME POSITION. 
          UM, SUZANNE EDMUND DID AN AMAZING JOB FOR US, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, FOR HER OWN REASONS, HAS DECIDED TO, TO MOVE ON, UM, WITH THE, UM, I THINK INCREASED ENGAGEMENT OF THE CULTURAL ARTS COMMITTEE, UM, OVER THIS PAST YEAR. 
          A LOT OF WHAT SUZANNE AND MCKAYLA PRESENTED TO THE, TO THE COUNCIL A FEW WEEKS BACK. 
          UM, AND, UH, FOR REALLY MINIMAL COST OVERALL, WE'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND, UH, RECOMMEND CONVERTING THAT PART-TIME POSITION TO A FULL-TIME POSITION. 
          I THINK THE, THE QUALITY OF THE CANDIDATE THAT WOULD BE, UH, AVAILABLE FOR A FULL-TIME ASSIGNMENT VERSUS A PART-TIME ASSIGNMENT WOULD BE NOTEWORTHY. 
          AND SO WE'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND, AND DO THAT NOW. 
          UH, YOU SEE, UM, UH, THE ENGINEERING, THE FIRE, THE, UH, THE FLEET, UH, THE, UM, THE HUMAN RESOURCES SPECIALIST WAS SOMETHING THAT MID-YEAR, UH, WE, UH, DID APPROVE MOVING FROM A, UH, A, UM, PART-TIME TO A FULL-TIME POSITION. 
          THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THE 0.5, UM, MUNICIPAL COURT CLERK, UM, THIS DEPUTY CLERK. 
          UM, THIS IS JUST A BYPRODUCT OF THE VOLUME OF THE, UH, COURT, UM, UH, ACTIVITY, UH, BEING, BEING LOWER THAN IN, IN THE PAST. 
          AND PROBABLY ALSO SOME EFFICIENCIES IN OPERATIONS DUE TO TECHNOLOGY AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 
          BUT WE'RE PROMOTING, UH, UH, ACTUALLY RECOMMENDING DELETING THAT POSITION. 
          UM, AND THEN YOU SEE THE ADMINISTRATIVE SECRETARY IN THE CIVIC CENTER AND, UM, UH, MEETING SPACE REALM. 
          RECALL LAST YEAR WE MOVED, OR THIS YEAR ACTUALLY LITTLE BIT LAST BUDGET CYCLE, WE MOVED THE, UM, UH, THE C V B. 
          AND SO, UM, NOW ALSO, UH, THIS POSITION I'LL BEING ASSIGNED TO C V B, UH, RECOMMENDING THAT SAME STRATEGY ESSENTIALLY, UM, IN THE WATER REALM. 
          UM, UM, THIS POSITION, UH, HERE, THE, UH, WATER FACILITY SPECIALIST. 
          SO THIS WOULD BE SOMEONE, UM, AND, AND, UH, I MEAN, LARGELY COMING OUT OF ONE OF THE EXPERIENCES THAT WE HAD, UH, A A FEW MONTHS AGO WHEN WE, UH, LOST, UH, UH, THE, UH, NORTHSIDE PUMP STATION, UH, REALLY WANTING TO, UH, UM, PROVIDE A FACILITIES SPECIALIST, THE ABILITY, UH, TO BECOME AN EXPERT IN OUR WATER INFRASTRUCTURE PUMP STATIONS, UM, AND REALLY HAVE SOMEBODY THAT, UM, COULD LIKE HAP LIKE HAPPENED THAT NIGHT, REALLY, UH, BE VERY CREATIVE IN THE REPAIR STRATEGY, AND REALLY JUST KNOW THOSE SYSTEMS INSIDE AND OUT. 
          AND SO A POSITION BEING CREATED FOR THAT THERE. 
          UH, BUT AGAIN, IN THE WATER REALM, DELETING A POSITION, UH, THE FIELD SERVICES REPRESENTATIVE, UM, I, THIS IS A VERY POSITIVE SIGN. 
          THE REASON WE'RE ABLE TO DO THIS IS BECAUSE OF THE SMART WATER METERS THAT WE'VE TRANSITIONED TO OVER THE YEARS. 
          UM, AND SO WE MAY BE, YOU KNOW, SIMPLY REALIGNING, UM, AND REATING SOME RESOURCES HERE TO SOMETHING THAT COULD PROVIDE SOME GREAT BENEFITS TO US IN THE LONG RUN. 
          UM, SOMETHING, A, A POSITION THAT, AND, AND ONLY HAVE TO, UH, YOU KNOW, SACRIFICE A POSITION THAT REALLY IS, UH, NO LONGER NEEDED BECAUSE OF THE TECHNOLOGY ADVANCES. 
          AND THEN I THINK IMPORTANTLY, UM, UH, TWO FROZEN POSITIONS. 
          SO THESE POSITIONS WERE ALWAYS AUTHORIZED. 
          WE JUST HAD, UH, FROZEN DURING C O V I D, UH, LAST OF THE FROZEN POSITIONS IN WATER, I THINK TO COME OFF THE BOARD HERE. 
          UH, BUT AN ENVIRONMENTAL OUTREACH POSITION. 
          UM, SOMEONE THAT, UH, LIKE ON THE RECYCLING FRONT CAN GO OUT AND, UH, RAISE AWARENESS ABOUT WATER CONSERVATION COMING OUT OF OUR NORTH TEXAS, UM, BRIEFING. 
          YOU KNOW, THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS IS, IS GROWING EXPONENTIALLY. 
          THIS PERSON WOULD BE THE MAIN LIAISON WITH THE WATER DISTRICT AND BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE WITH THE WATER DISTRICTS COMMUNICATION STAFF AND ALL OF THEIR OUTREACH. 
          UH, BE A GREAT PERSON FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          AND THEN FINALLY, UM, THE CONSTRUCTION INSPECTORS, UM, UM, I'M SORRY, IN THE CONSTRUCTION DIVISION, UH, IN OUR, UH, STREETS, UH, UH, DEPARTMENT HERE, AGAIN, JUST A MAINTENANCE HELPER, UH, TO WORKER, A FRONTLINE, UH, TYPE MAINTENANCE HELPER WORKER. 
          UM, AND THEN FINALLY, I, I TALKED ABOUT THE C B B SECRETARY, UH, IN THE EISMAN CENTER HERE. 
          THIS IS JUST THE RECOGNITION THAT THE EISMAN CENTER IS BACK IN A BUSY PLACE. 
          UM, YOU RECALL AT THE, AT THE PEAK OF THE PANDEMIC, WE HAD, UH, I THINK AS MANY AS EIGHT OR SO POSITIONS THAT WE HAD FROZEN, UH, DID NOT WANNA BRING THEM ALL BACK ON UNTIL WE SAW THE FULL ACTIVATION OF THE EISMAN CENTER. 
          AND NOW WE'RE SEEING THAT. 
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AND SO YOU CAN SEE HERE, UH, SOME, UH, POSITIONS THAT WERE JUST REACTIVATING, UM, AS A RESULT OF, UM, AS A RESULT OF THE, UH, THE EMAN COMING ON BOARD HERE. 
          SO, SOME OTHER KEY AREAS, IN ADDITION TO THE ORGANIZATIONAL CHANGES THAT I MENTIONED. 
          SO IN GENERAL GOVERNMENT, UH, YOU SEE HERE, UH, INCREASING, UH, $1.6 MILLION OVER THE PRIOR YEAR. 
          SO, UH, IMPORTANTLY HERE, UH, TO THE COUNCIL I KNOW IS, UH, FUNDING TO CONTINUE ENHANCING OUR CULTURALLY DIVERSE PROGRAMMING AND EVENT OPPORTUNITIES, BUT ADDITIONAL FUNDING, UM, FOR THE COUNCIL TO FURTHER EXPLORE AND THEN, UH, POTENTIALLY IMPLEMENT, UH, A NEW COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT STRATEGIES. 
          YOU KNOW, THINGS, FOR INSTANCE, LIKE A POTENTIAL, UH, NEW BOARDS OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. 
          UH, BUT KNOW THAT THE FUNDING IS IN THERE, UH, TO HANDLE THAT KIND OF PLANNING WORK AND THE ACTIVATION WORK IF THE COUNCIL DETERMINES THAT TO BE THE CASE. 
          UM, CONTINUING THE BUILDING ON THE GREAT WORK THAT AMY DID LAST YEAR TO REALLY, UM, BROADEN OUR STRATEGIES TO TRY TO IMPROVE THE DIVERSITY OF APPLICANTS ON BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. 
          UH, AN EXPANDED CARES, UH, PROGRAM HERE LAST YEAR, GROWING, I THINK BY DAY. 
          UH, SO THE FUNDING TO MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS. 
          THIS IS ALSO WHERE YOU SEE, AND A, A GOOD PART OF THIS 1.6 IS INSURANCE PREMIUMS. THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO AT THIS TIME. 
          NOTHING TO DO WITH THE, UH, CITY HALL FIRE. 
          THIS IS JUST ACROSS THE BOARD PREMIUMS FOR EVERYTHING THAT WE ENSURE. 
          UM, AS, AS YOU PROBABLY HAVE EXPERIENCED IN YOUR OWN BUSINESSES AND PERSONAL LIFE, ALL PREMIUMS ARE ON, ARE SIGNIFICANTLY ON THE RISE HERE. 
          AND THEN JUST GENERAL THINGS LIKE RADIO AND PHONE SYSTEM FEES, MAINTENANCE, UH, FEES CITYWIDE, UH, VERY EXCITED, UM, WITH YOUR DIRECTION TO INCLUDE, UH, ENHANCEMENTS TO BOTH THE NETWORK OF COMMUNITY MINISTRIES AND THE COUNSELING PLACE. 
          EACH WITH VERY, UM, DIFFERENT BUT VERY IMPORTANT WE BELIEVE FOR THE COMMUNITY, UH, MENTAL HEALTH PROGRAMS. UM, THESE ARE PROGRAMS THAT, UH, WILL SUPPORT AT THE NETWORK, UM, A A A A A, UM, TOTAL SOLUTION, IF YOU WILL, TO FOLKS THAT THEY'RE HELPING, UM, UM, BECOME INDEPENDENT AND, AND SUCCESSFUL AGAIN. 
          SO I'D BE ABLE TO PROVIDE, UM, UH, MENTAL HEALTH, UM, UH, OPPORTUNITIES, UH, FOR THOSE, UH, FOLKS. 
          AND THEN ON THE, UH, UH, UM, COUNSELING PLACE SIDE, EXPANDING ON THE GOOD WORK THAT THEY'VE STARTED. 
          UM, AND ACTUALLY, UH, HAVE, UH, UM, UM, AGAIN, PILOTED THIS SUMMER IN OUR, IN OUR LIBRARY, UM, FOR, UM, YOUTH, FOR VICTIMS, UM, UM, FOR, UM, UM, ENHANCING OUR, UH, OPPORTUNITIES EVEN FOR OUR CITY EMPLOYEES, UM, TO RECEIVE MENTAL HEALTH CARE AT A DISCOUNTED OR EVEN, UM, ENTIRELY FREE, UH, COMPONENT. 
          AND SO, UH, RAISING BOTH OF THOSE CONTRIBUTIONS ANNUALLY TO 500,000. 
          AND THEN I MENTIONED THE, THE MUNICIPAL COURT CAMERA REFRESH, UH, JUST LIKE THE E O C REFRESH MM-HMM. 
          . 
          MR. CORCORAN, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR US? NO. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          I'M JUST SCRATCHING MY HEAD. 
          OH, IS IT REALLY? OH, I'M SORRY. 
          UH, I MENTIONED, AGAIN, IN GENERAL GOVERNMENT, THE FINANCE STRATEGY WE JUST TALKED ABOUT. 
          I'M VERY EXCITED, UH, FOR THE FIRST TIME, UH, HERE IN THE CITY'S, UH, HISTORY. 
          UH, UM, THE CITY IS GOING THROUGH A CORE VALUES ASSESSMENT, AND WE'LL BE ANNOUNCING AS A CITY ORGANIZATION, UM, A, A SET OF CORE VALUES THAT, UH, WILL BE HIGHLY ALIGNED, OBVIOUSLY WITH THE COUNCIL'S GOALS AND, AND, UM, BUT, BUT REALLY, UH, SOMETHING FOR US AS AN ORGANIZATION TO RALLY AROUND, UM, WHEN, UM, WHEN, UM, WE ARE, UH, DEALING WITH DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT OBSTACLES AND CHALLENGES AND OPPORTUNITIES. 
          UM, I'M REALLY PROUD OF THIS. 
          MCKAYLA AND, AND HER TEAM HAVE DONE AN AWESOME JOB STEERING THIS. 
          THE COOL THING ABOUT THIS IS, I'LL JUST TAKE A SECOND HERE. 
          THE COOL THING ABOUT THIS IS, IS, UM, THIS IS ENTIRELY EMPLOYEE LED. 
          SO WE HAD, UM, 25 VOLUNTEERS THAT CAME IN. 
          THEY WERE TRAINED BY A TRAINER, AND THE 25 VOLUNTEERS ARE RUNNING ALL OF THE, UH, INTERNAL STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS, THE, THE, UH, INPUT MEETINGS FOR OUR, UM, EMPLOYEES. 
          SO OUR LEADERSHIP TEAM IS NOT INVOLVED IN THE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS OF THIS AT ALL. 
          THIS IS BEING GENERATED FROM THE GROUND UP, UH, WHICH IS HOW IT'LL BE MOST SUCCESSFUL. 
          AND SO REALLY EXCITED FOR, UM, FOR OUR DEPARTMENT, AND THEN IMPORTANTLY HERE, UM, USING A LITTLE BIT OF SPECIAL PROJECTS FUNDING, UM, FROM THIS CURRENT YEAR, UM, ACTIVATING A REFRESH OF THE CULTURAL ARTS MASTER PLAN. 
          UM, AND SO THAT'S TIME TO DO THAT. 
          UM, UH, LAST ADOPTED BACK IN, UH, I THINK 2017 ON COMMUNITY SERVICES SIDE, UM, FULL FUNDING FOR THE HOME IMPROVEMENT INCENTIVE PROGRAM, WHICH IS ACTUALLY DOWN, UM, AS A, UH, AS A, UH, CONSEQUENCE OF THE 5.40 CENT TAX REDUCTION LAST YEAR. 
          THE INITIAL ESTIMATES WERE ON THE HIGHER TAX RATE. 
          AND SO, UH, FOLKS PAID LESS TAXES, SO THEY GET REBATE, LESS TAXES, AND, UM, UH, I, THEY'RE PROBABLY OKAY WITH THAT. 
          UM, ALL OF OUR FUNDING FOR HOMEOWNER NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION SUPPORT PROGRAMS ARE FULLY RESTORED, UH, AGAIN, AND THEN, UH, THE CODE ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM FULLY FUNDED UP IN PARTICULAR WITH SOME OF THE, UH, TWEAKS AND, UH, THAT WE MADE TO THE APARTMENT INSPECTION PROGRAM, SHORT-TERM RENTAL PROGRAM. 
          UH, BUILDING INSPECTION, YOU'LL SEE AN INCREASE OF ABOUT $200,000, UH, FOR, UH, OUR CONTRACTUAL BUILDING INSPECTION 
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SERVICES WITH VERO BARRETT TASKS. 
          UM, WE, SINCE, SINCE THIS EVEN, I THINK CONCURRENTLY HERE, WE DID ACTUALLY HIRE FOR THE FIRST TIME IN THREE YEARS, A COMBINATION INSPECTOR. 
          SO, UH, AN INSPECTOR THAT WOULD BE, WOULD BE LICENSED TO CONDUCT INSPECTIONS ON AT LEAST TWO TRADES. 
          THAT'S A HUGE THING. 
          WE'VE HAD THAT POSITION, THOSE TWO OF THOSE POSITIONS POSTED FOR THREE YEARS. 
          SO THAT'S A REALLY GOOD SIGN. 
          IF WE, UM, WE WILL USE THIS ONLY AS NEEDED. 
          THIS NUMBER COULD VERY WELL COME DOWN, PARTICULARLY IF WE WERE ABLE TO BRING ON ONE MORE INSPECTOR OR SO, IT WOULD REALLY HELP. 
          AND SO, UM, BUT AT THIS TIME, KIND OF RESERVING THOSE FUNDS, UM, UH, PARTICULARLY IF WE HAD A COUPLE OF LARGE PROJECTS COME IN. 
          AND THEN, UH, THE ANIMAL CONTROL, A KEY PARTNERSHIP WITH THE NORTH TEXAS WILDLIFE CENTER, UM, AS AN EXPANDED PROGRAM ON FACILITY AND FLEET SERVICES. 
          WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THIS. 
          I WON'T BELABOR THESE POINTS HERE. 
          UM, YOU SEE, UM, THE $365,000 THAT IS FOR, UH, THINGS, A LOT OF THESE REQUIRED BY THE STATE OF TEXAS. 
          THINGS LIKE ELEVATORS AND GENERATORS, FIRE PANEL INSPECTIONS, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. 
          UM, THOSE ARE DONE BY CONTRACTUAL SERVICES THAT THEY HAVE TO COME IN, INSPECT AND VERIFY, UM, THE ROUTINE MAINTENANCE, THESE ARE THINGS THAT IN THE 1 MILLION SQUARE FEET. 
          UM, AND WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THAT, REALLY, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVE, UH, CONSTRUCTION BACKGROUNDS, FACILITY, FACILITY RESPONSIBILITY, BACKGROUNDS, A MILLION SQUARE FEET, $753,000 TO TAKE CARE OF A MILLION SQUARE FEET, REALLY DOESN'T GO THAT VERY FAR. 
          UM, BUT WE DO ALSO AM VERY THANKFUL FOR THE PROPERTY TAX DEDICATION. 
          THAT 483,000 THAT ALLOWS US TO REALLY CHIP AWAY AT SOME MID-SIZE CAPITAL PROJECTS. 
          THAT'S HOW A LOT OF OUR H V A C, FOR INSTANCE, PROJECTS GET TAKEN CARE OF. 
          AND THEN YOU SEE THE ELECTRICAL COST HERE. 
          THIS IS NOT ALL OF OUR ELECTRICAL COST CITY LOT. 
          THIS IS THE ELECTRICAL COST FOR, UM, MORE OF OUR, UH, GENERAL BUILDINGS. 
          UM, THINGS LIKE THE EISMAN CENTER, UM, UH, PUMP STATIONS OR, OR, OR, UH, ARE, UH, UH, ALLOCATED TO THOSE APPROPRIATE FUNDING SOURCES. 
          YOU SEE THE CUSTODIAL SERVICES, WE TALKED ABOUT FLEET SERVICES. 
          UM, THIS BUDGET DOES TAKE THE FLEET BUDGET. 
          UH, THIS BUDGET PROPOSAL TAKES THE FLEET BUDGET FROM THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT AND, AND PUTS IT INTO THE NEW DEPARTMENT OF FACILITY AND FLEET SERVICES. 
          UH, WE TALKED ABOUT THE ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL YOU SEE THERE, UH, UH, TO THE QUESTION EARLIER ABOUT TRAINING, SOME ADDITIONAL TRAINING, UH, NEEDING MORE TRAINING BUDGET IN THIS, IN THIS REALM, BECAUSE WE ARE BRINGING THOSE APPRENTICE ON AND THEY NEED MORE TIME AND TRAINING. 
          UM, WE MENTIONED THE ONE TIME $250,000 FOR THE, UH, FOR THE, UM, UH, ONE TIME CATCH UP, IF YOU WILL, ON SOME OF THE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE. 
          AND THEN THE CAPITAL, UH, THE, IT, UH, DAN WAS HERE LAST WEEK, SO YOU'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS. 
          UH, YOU SEE THE NUMBERS THERE ARE ABOUT $420,000. 
          THE BIGGEST PART OF THIS, OBVIOUSLY, IS THE PROPERTY TECH DE PROPERTY TAX DEDICATION. 
          THAT'S IN OUR CAPITAL EQUIPMENT, UM, REPLACEMENT FUND. 
          $1.4 MILLION OF THAT, UH, IS FOR IT, AND INCREASED THERE $54,000 AS YOU CAN SEE. 
          AND SOME OF THE EXPANDED, UH, INITIATIVES. 
          WE TALKED ABOUT THE U B KEY MANAGEMENT TOOL AND THE SECURITY CYBERSECURITY PLATFORM THAT DAN PROPOSED LAST WEEK, UM, IN THE LIBRARY. 
          UM, UH, UM, A FULL SET, UH, FULL, FULL FUNDING FOR BOTH THE MOVE, THE TRANSITION, AND THE NEW OPERATING, BOTH WITHIN OUR TEMPORARY FACILITY, BOTH, BOTH OUT IN, BUT IN ADDITION OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AS WELL. 
          UM, UM, FUNDING ALSO FOR THE, FOR THE LIBRARY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE. 
          A LOT OF THOSE, UH, TAKE ADVANTAGE OF A LOT OF THOSE, UH, EXTERIOR OR, UM, UM, OPPORTUNITIES TO GO OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY AND TO REALLY FURTHER ENHANCE THEIR CULTURAL DIVERSITY PROGRAMMING. 
          UM, YOU SEE THE SUBSCRIPTION SERVICES, THE $250,000 IN CAPITAL FOR, UH, THE ADDITIONAL BOOKS AND MATERIALS, AND THEN THE $3 MILLION THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT IN A LITTLE BIT IN THE, UH, DEBT PLAN, UM, THAT THE COUNCIL APPROVED AS PART OF, UM, THE BOND PROGRAM PREPARATION LAST YEAR. 
          IF THE BOND PROGRAM PASSED, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AT THREE ADDITIONAL, $3 MILLION OF COS TO HANDLE ANY SITE CONFIGURATION ISSUES OR ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES ON THE CAMPUS. 
          UH, SO THIS WILL BE FURTHER ENHANCING THE LIBRARY PROJECT IN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FRONT. 
          UM, I AM PROPOSING TO INCREASE THE PROPERTY TAX DEDICATION, UM, UM, TO 1.9 MILLION. 
          THAT'S AN INCREASE OF 5.3, UH, SORRY, UH, $537,000. 
          SO WE RECALL THIS HAS BEEN AT DIFFERENT LEVELS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. 
          THIS HAS BEEN ONE OF THE KNOBS WE'VE TURNED THE MOST. 
          IT'S BEEN AS MUCH AS I THINK, UH, THREE QUARTERS OF A PENNY, AS A PENNY, AS MUCH AS A PENNY, AS LOW AS A QUARTER OF A PENNY OR A HALF A CENT. 
          RECENTLY. 
          IT'S EVEN HAD A, A A 0.6 AT ONE TIME. 
          I THINK THIS WOULD BE THE EQUIVALENT OF IT IF IT WENT BACK TO THE ONE PENNY. 
          AND SO THIS WOULD GO INTO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUND FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES. 
          THIS IS NOT OPERATING DOLLARS. 
          THAT'S INTO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUND THAT'S SEPARATE FUND EACH YEAR. 
          UH, WE HAVE THE ONGOING SUPPORT THAT WE AGREED TO LAST YEAR FOR THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, $285,000 FOR, UH, SPECIAL EVENTS IN THE IQ IN THE CORE DISTRICT. 
          SO THINGS LIKE LIGHT UP, LIGHT UP, LOCKWOOD, UH, CULTURE IN THE CORE, EVEN THINGS LIKE THE SYMPHONY, THE SMALLER SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA EVENT WE JUST HAD. 
          ALL OF THOSE ARE, UH, HANDLED BY THIS, UM, UH, UH, DEPARTMENT NOW. 
          AND, UH, UM, UH, YOU SEE SOME ADVERTISING AND TRADE SHOW OPPORTUNITIES, UH, THAT WE WANNA TAKE ADVANTAGE OF. 
          AND THEN, OF COURSE, ONGOING FUNDING FOR THE COMP PLAN IN TERMS OF, UH, UH, PARKS AND REC. 
          UM, 
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YOU SEE AGAIN, UM, ALL OF THE FUNDING, UM, RESTORED NOW FOR OUR COMMUNITY EVENTS. 
          AND YOU'LL SEE DOWN FURTHER HERE, EVEN, UM, AN ADDITIONAL $140,000 FOR THE NEW, UM, IN TO BE DETERMINED PLAZA STAGE RETURN , UM, WHAT THAT WILL LOOK LIKE WE ARE, UH, WORKING THROUGH RIGHT NOW. 
          BUT WE DO WANT TO ACTIVATE THAT. 
          IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE VENDORS, UM, ON THAT SIDE OF THE, OF THE, UM, OF THE, OF THE EVENT, OF THE, OF THE FESTIVAL, TO HAVE SOMETHING HAPPENING OVER THERE AND TO KEEP THAT WHOLE ROW, THAT PERFORMANCE ROW, AND EVEN AS IT WRAPS AROUND TO KEEP THAT VITAL OR VIABLE AND TO KEEP IT ATTRACTIVE, UM, WE HAVE TO BRING SOMETHING BACK TO THE PLAZA. 
          AND SO THAT'S IN THERE. 
          UM, YOU SEE THE $483,000 DE, UH, PROPERTY TAX DEDICATION, SEAN WAS WITH YOU LAST WEEK, AND EXPLAIN WHAT THAT WOULD BE USED FOR. 
          A MATCHING FUND, BEAUTIFICATION, ALL REQUESTS FULLY FUNDED, UH, AGAIN IN THE, UM, IN THE PROGRAM. 
          AND, UH, THEN YOU SEE, UH, THROUGH THE CAPITAL REPLACEMENT FUND, A LOT OF WHICH SEAN, UH, DESCRIBED TO YOU IN TERMS OF, UM, UH, SOME OF THE PROJECTS AND THE EQUIPMENT. 
          AND THEN IMPORTANTLY HERE, I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS, WE WANTED TO GET THROUGH THE PARKS MASTER PLAN FIRST, UM, IS A AQUATICS MASTER PLAN STUDY. 
          SO WHAT WILL WE DO WITH FOUR NEIGHBORHOOD POOLS, UM, THAT ARE, UH, BECOMING DISPROPORTIONATELY COSTLY TO MAINTAIN? UM, WHAT WILL WE DO WITH, UH, AN AQUATIC CENTER, UH, THAT'S OVERUSED BECAUSE OF THE KIND OF AMENITIES? AND DO WE INCORPORATE THINGS LIKE SPLASH PLAIDS IN THE FUTURE? UM, WE NEED TO GO OUT, WE NEED TO HAVE PUBLIC INPUT, WE NEED TO HAVE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT DIALOGUE ABOUT THAT, AND WE NEED TO, WE OWE YOU A RECOMMENDATION SO THAT YOU CAN, UH, KIND OF DECIDE, UM, HOW WE WANT TO PROCEED. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHAT THIS STUDY WILL DO, UH, IS ALLOW THAT TO HA UH, TO HAPPEN. 
          UM, I'M GONNA TAKE A BREAK AND I'M GONNA TURN THIS OVER TO BOB. 
          I WILL, UH, AFTER BOB RUNS THROUGH THESE HIGHLIGHTS, I'M GONNA COME BACK AND WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE PROPERTY TAX CONSIDERATIONS THAT WE MENTIONED. 
          THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT DEBT, AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO NEXT STEPS. 
          YES, SIR. 
          HEY, I'M, I'M SORRY. 
          REAL QUICK, DAWN. 
          I KNOW THAT WE, UM, I FEEL LIKE WE'VE HAD, LIKE IN THE PAST BUDGET PRESENTATIONS, THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF ANALYSIS ON THINGS LIKE POOL LIFESPAN ON SORT OF THE, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE I SAID, JUST HOW THE POOLS HAVE BEEN MAINTAINED AND USEFUL LIFE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          SO HOW WOULD THE, HOW WOULD THIS STUDY DIFFER FROM THAT? MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO WE'VE DONE A LOT OF CONDITION ASSESSMENTS. 
          I, I AGREE WITH YOU. 
          AND WE'VE TRIED TO REALLY APPRECIATE, AND WE, EVEN A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, UM, MAY HAVE BEEN JUST BEFORE YOUR TERM, UM, WE DID A, A SIGNIFICANT CONDITION ASSESSMENT AT THAT TIME, THE COUNCIL SAID, REINVEST OVER THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS, BRING THE POOLS UP, UM, SO THAT THEY'RE OPERATING SAFELY MM-HMM. 
          , AND, AND, YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNITY CAN ENJOY IT, BUT WE WANNA COMPLETE THE, THE, UH, MASTER PLAN, UM, BEFORE WE MAKE ANY LONG-TERM DECISIONS. 
          WELL, THE MASTER PLAN, THE PARKS MASTER PLAN, UM, WASN'T AS ARTICULATE ABOUT THIS AS WE HAD. 
          WE HAD WANTED IT TO BE, AND IF YOU RECALL, ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS COMING OUTTA THE PARKS MASTER PLAN WAS TO DO THIS, UM, AQUATICS STUDY. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , THE THING THAT WAS LACKING WAS THE BE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE FOCUS DISCUSSION WITH THE COMMUNITY ON JUST THE AQUATICS. 
          YOU KNOW, THE PARKS MASTER PLAN WAS SO ENCOMPASSING MM-HMM. 
           THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT AS PART OF THE SCOPE TO KIND OF REALLY SINGLE THAT TOPIC OUT. 
          AND SO WHAT THIS MASTER PLAN STUDY WOULD DO, UM, MORE SO THAN, THAN WE WERE ABLE TO DO, IS REALLY, UH, HAVE THAT ENGAGEMENT WITH THE COMMUNITY. 
          WE, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE'S, I, YOU KNOW, THERE USED TO BE ON THE COUNCIL, GREAT. 
          I MEAN, THERE WAS BOTH SIDES OF THE SPECTRUM WAS LIKE, DON'T DO AWAY WITH ONE POOL  MM-HMM. 
          , AND, YOU KNOW, DO AWAY WITH ALL THE POOLS AND PUT SPLASH PADS. 
          AND THAT WAS, THAT WAS JUST, YOU KNOW, TWO OF SEVEN COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          AND SO WE REALLY NEED TO GET INTO THE, I, I BELIEVE WE REALLY NEED TO GET INTO THE IN COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PIECE THROUGH THIS MASTER PLAN STUDY, SO THAT WE CAN REALLY, UM, TRY TO, WE TRY TO TRY TO ARRIVE AT A RECOMMENDATION FOR YOU THAT WE BELIEVE WOULD BE MOST RESPONSIVE TO THE GREATEST PORTION OF THE COMMUNITY'S PREFERENCES. 
          YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF HOW EASY THAT'LL BE . 
          OKAY. 
          UM, BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME STRONG FEELINGS OUT THERE, AND IT'S MAYBE, IT'S LIKELY IT'LL BE LIKE EVERYTHING, IT'LL BE SOMETHING IN THE MIDDLE WHERE IT'LL BE SOME KIND OF A HYBRID APPROACH WHERE MAYBE YOU STILL HAVE SOME NEIGHBORHOOD POOLS, BUT YOU HAVE SOME SPLASH PADS. 
          UM, THE HEIGHTS AQUATIC CENTER, I THINK WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WELL, THAT, THAT IS, HAS A LOT OF USE BECAUSE IT IS THAT ONLY OPTION IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , WE COULD POTENTIALLY RELIEVE THAT AND EX EXTEND ITS LIFE AND, AND, AND MAYBE HAVE LESS WEAR AND TEAR ON IT IF WASN'T SO, UM, OVERUSED. 
          OKAY. 
          COOL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YES, SIR. 
          MR. HUTCHER RUDDER. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UM, DON, A QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS, AS WE GO THROUGH THIS, I HEAR A LOT OF DOLLARS GOING TO VARIOUS ORGANIZATIONS IN DIFFERENT WAYS, IN DIFFERENT PLACES, AND I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE EVER UNDERSTAND FULLY THE IMPACT THAT WE MAKE IN THAT REGARD. 
          IS THERE A WAY WE COULD GET A MORE DEFINED, UM, UH, DOLLAR FIGURE THAT WE'RE, THAT WE'RE SUPPORTING DIFFERENT GROUPS, ORGANIZATIONS, 
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ET CETERA, ET CETERA? SO WE HAVE, WE HAVE A BETTER FEEL FOR THAT. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          YEAH, WE CAN, WE CAN PROBABLY, UM, PROBABLY HAVE THAT FOR TOMORROW. 
          WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, UM, AND I KNOW I SEE A LOT OF FOLKS TAKING NOTES FOR ME. 
          SO WHAT, WE'LL, WHAT WE'LL DO TOMORROW IS, UM, IF WE CAN, YOU KNOW, WE'LL GET EVERYTHING TOGETHER TOMORROW, WE CAN, AND BEFORE WE LAUNCH INTO PART TWO, TOMORROW, WE CAN KIND OF REVIEW, UM, SOME OF THOSE DOCUMENTS. 
          SO I THINK WE CAN, UH, WE CAN, YEAH. 
          WE'LL DO OUR VERY BEST TO PULL IT TOGETHER BEFORE TOMORROW. 
          YEAH. 
          EVEN IF IT CAN'T BY TOMORROW. 
          I MEAN, JUST, JUST BEFORE WE WRAP UP IN, IN GENERAL, I MEAN, IT'S JUST, JUST FEELS LIKE THERE'S SOMETIMES A LOT OF MONEY GOING IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT LOCATIONS, AND WE DON'T EVER, WE DON'T EVER EITHER REVIEW IT OR GIVE OURSELVES CREDIT WHICHEVER WAY WE NEED TO DO IT. 
          AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT THERE'S ONE WAY OVER ANOTHER. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT JUST, I, I JUST DON'T THINK THAT SOMETIMES THE COMMUNITY UNDERSTANDS WHAT ALL WE SUPPORT TO WHAT LEVELS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          SO HAPPY TO DO THAT. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YES, SIR. 
          GREAT. 
          UH, BOB. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          WELL, DON GOT ALL THE FUN STUFF ABOUT HOW TO SPEND THE MONEY NOW. 
          HOW DO WE PAY FOR IT, RIGHT, ? SO, UH, TOTAL DETAILS, DETAILS, TOTAL REVENUE, UH, IS, UH, PROJECTED FOR THE GENERAL FUND AT ABOUT 177.2 MILLION. 
          AND THAT IS ROUGHLY THE $13 MILLION INCREASE THAT DON'S TALKING ABOUT. 
          UH, OF THAT, UM, INCREASE, ABOUT 10.5 OF THAT IS IN THE TOP THREE LINE ITEMS, AND THOSE JUST HAPPEN TO BE OUR THREE LARGEST ONES. 
          UH, THE, UH, PROPERTY TAX, SALES TAX AND FRANCHISE FEES MAKE UP ABOUT 85% OF OUR REVENUE. 
          SO WE'RE VERY HIGHLY DEPENDENT ON THOSE. 
          UM, SO EVEN IF WE DO LOOK AT SOME OF OUR FEES, YOU KNOW, THE BULK OF THE, THE NEW MONEY'S GONNA HAVE TO COME FROM THESE REVENUE SOURCES. 
          UH, PROPERTY TAXES, UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT $72.7 MILLION FOR NEXT YEAR. 
          UH, THIS IS A FIVE OR $2.54 MILLION INCREASE. 
          UH, IT EQUATES TO, UH, 3.87% INCREASE, UH, YEAR TO YEAR. 
          UH, THIS IS THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED UNDER SB TWO TO MAKE THINGS MORE CONFUSING. 
          UH, IT'S NOT CERTIFIED TO CERTIFIED IT. 
          THE, THE THREE AND A HALF PERCENT CAP IS BASED OFF OF THE SUPPLEMENTS THAT WE GET THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. 
          AND THIS YEAR WE HAPPEN TO GET SOME POSITIVE SUPPLEMENTS. 
          SO WHEN YOU FACTOR IN THE POSITIVE SUPPLEMENTS AND THEN THE 3.5%, THAT'S HOW WE GET TO THE THREE, UH, 0.8, UH, 7%. 
          NOW, ONCE WE RECEIVE, UH, THE CERTIFIED VALUES AND ARE ABLE TO ANALYZE THAT, WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU WITH A FINAL, UM, TAX RATE RECOMMENDATION AND, UH, REVENUE PROJECTION. 
          UH, SO THAT'LL BE COMING HERE SHORTLY. 
          UM, WITH THAT SAID, UNDER CURRENT ASSUMPTIONS, 1 CENT OF THE TAX RATE WOULD, UH, BE EQUIVALENT TO ABOUT $1.9 MILLION. 
          UH, AND THEN 1% GROWTH IN THE CERTIFIED VALUE IS ABOUT 680 OR $698,000. 
          UH, PRIOR TAXES ARE, UH, PROJECTED AT $60,000. 
          UH, THIS IS A RETURN TO A POSITIVE COLLECTION RATE, UH, AFTER THREE YEARS OF NEGATIVE COLLECTION RATE COMING OUT OF, UH, SOME OF THE PROTESTS AND LAWSUITS, UH, THROUGH, THROUGH THE PANDEMIC. 
          AND THEN PENALTIES AND INTEREST ARE BASED ON A FIVE YEAR AVERAGE, ROUGHLY ABOUT $230,000. 
          UH, JUST AN ILLUSTRATION, YOU KNOW, THE GENERAL FUND PAYS FOR YOUR, YOUR PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICES, YOUR, YOUR PARKS, YOUR LIBRARIES. 
          UM, AND IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT THE AVERAGE HOME PAID IN, IN F Y 23, IT WAS ABOUT A, UH, $1,800 WAS WHAT THE AVERAGE HOUSE PAID IN OR HOUSEHOLD PAID IN CITY TAXES. 
          THAT EQUATES TO ABOUT $152. 
          AND ACCORDING TO THE BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS, UM, HOUSEHOLDS IN THE AREA SPENT ABOUT $251 A MONTH ON ENTERTAINMENT AND ABOUT $120 A MONTH ON, UM, APPAREL. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO YOU GET FOR YOUR MONEY? WE'RE TRYING TO, TO SHOW YOU THAT WE, WE GIVE YOU A PRETTY GOOD BANG FOR YOUR BUCK. 
          WE AT LEAST, WE HOPE WE GIVE YOU A PRETTY BIG, UH, GOOD BANG FOR YOUR BUCK. 
          UH, FRANCHISE FEES, ONE OF THE OTHER BIG THREE, UH, $19 MILLION. 
          THIS IS A TWO POINT, UH, OH $5 MILLION INCREASE, UH, BUDGET TO BUDGET, ELECTRIC AND FRANCHISE. 
          UH, ELECTRIC AND GAS FRANCHISE FEES ARE B WE, WE LOOK AT THEM, UH, OVER A FIVE YEAR HISTORY. 
          UH, WE TRY TO, TO EVEN OUT SOME OF THE PEAKS AND VALLEYS BASED ON WEATHER, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DO IN THE WATER FUND WHEN WE DO WATER CONSUMPTION. 
          AND THEN WE APPLY A MODEST GROWTH FACTOR, UH, GAS, UH, FRANCHISEES FOR NEXT YEAR. 
          WE DID ACCOUNT FOR SOME OF THE, UH, RECENT INCREASES IN THE COST OF NATURAL GAS, UM, TELEPHONE FRANCHISES. 
          UH, IT IS A $392,000 INCREASE BUDGET TO BUDGET. 
          UM, THIS IS A CATEGORY THAT HAS TYPICALLY BEEN GOING DOWN FOR US. 
          UM, COVID KIND OF EX, UM, ACCELERATED THAT. 
          UH, WE HAD SOME COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS THAT JUST DROPPED SOME OF THEIR PHONE LINES. 
          AND WHAT WE'VE SEEN OVER THE LAST YEAR IS SOME OF THOSE COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS HAVE REACTIVATED THOSE PHONE LINES. 
          WE'VE HAD A, A BUMP IN THE ACTUAL NUMBER OF PHONE LINES, WHICH HAD A BUMP OF THE, UH, THE FRANCHISE FEES. 
          BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT FROM WHAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING ENDING THIS YEAR TO NEXT YEAR, IT IS A DECREASE. 
          UM, WE HAVE BEEN SEEING THIS TREND CONTINUE OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS, AND THAT'S BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL ACCOUNTS DROPPING THEIR HOME 
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PHONE LINES. 
          SO, UH, WE ARE, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE GETTING A TEMPORARY BUMP, WE DO ANTICIPATE THIS ONE TO CONTINUE TO GO DOWN. 
          UH, CABLE FRANCHISES, UM, ARE PROJECTED TO, TO DROP OUT $68,000. 
          UH, THIS HAS TO DO WITH THE STREAMING PEOPLE DROPPING THEIR CABLE AND, AND GOING TO THE STREAMING SERVICES. 
          AND THEN WATER AND SUIT, OR WATER AND SOLID WASTE FRANCHISE FEES ARE BASED ON 5% OF THEIR FEES. 
          UM, AND THAT'S FOR THE USE OF THE RIGHT OF WAYS. 
          AND IT'S CONSISTENT WITH, UH, SOME OF THE BEST PRACTICES THAT WE HAVE THAT ARE SET, UH, INDUSTRY WISE. 
          UH, SALES TAX, UM, 58.4 MILLION, WHICH IS A 5.9% OR $5.9 MILLION INCREASE, UM, BUDGET TO BUDGET. 
          NOW, LAST YEAR, F Y 23 CURRENT YEAR, I GUESS YOU WOULD SAY, UH, WE WENT IN INTENTIONALLY CONSERVATIVE. 
          UH, WE STILL WEREN'T SURE WE WERE COMING OUT OF WITH, UH, THE PANDEMIC. 
          UH, SO WE WERE, WE, WE KNEW WE WERE GOING IN PRETTY CONSERVATIVE. 
          UH, NOW WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO GO BACK TO SOME OF THE, UH, POST OR PRE PANDEMIC ASSUMPTIONS. 
          UH, SO WE'VE INCREASED THAT TO $57.6 MILLION, UH, FOR NEXT YEAR. 
          UH, WE REMOVED SOME OF THE AUDIT ADJUSTMENTS. 
          THAT'S WHY IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THERE'S A BIG GAP BETWEEN WHERE WE'RE ENDING THIS YEAR AND, AND GOING INTO NEXT YEAR. 
          WE REMOVED THOSE ONE TIME AUDIT ADJUSTMENTS FROM THAT, UM, UH, PROJECTION. 
          AND THEN WE ADD A MODEST GROWTH FACTOR. 
          AGAIN, STAYING ON THE CONSERVATIVE SIDE, THAT IS OUR POSITION. 
          BUT TRYING TO GET BACK TO SOME OF THOSE PRE PANDEMIC, UH, ASSUMPTIONS. 
          MIXED BEVERAGE TAX, UH, IS, UM, PROJECTED INCREASE ABOUT 78,000. 
          THAT'S BASED ON CURRENT TRENDS. 
          AND THEN THE BINGO TAX IS UP JUST SLIGHTLY FROM THE CURRENT YEAR. 
          NOW, THIS IS A 10 YEAR LOOK. 
          UH, YOU CAN SEE THAT, UH, FROM 2013 TO NOW, WE'VE PRETTY MUCH DOUBLED OUR SALES TAX. 
          UM, THERE HAVE BEEN YEARS WHERE THAT'S BEEN RELATIVELY SMALL INCREASES. 
          AND THEN WE'VE HAD A COUPLE LARGER THAN ANTICIPATED INCREASES. 
          UM, BUT WE, WE AGAIN, WANT TO CONTINUE TO STAY CONSERVATIVE ON THIS. 
          IT IS A VERY VOLATILE ONE. 
          IF YOU GO BACK EVEN YEARS PRIOR TO THAT, YOU WOULD SEE WE HAD YEARS IF WE HAD NEGATIVE GROWTH IN THAT. 
          SO IT'S NOT ONE THAT WE WANT TO, TO OVERHEAT, IF YOU WILL. 
          UH, OTHER REVENUES, UH, 26.93 MILLION, WHICH IS A INCREASE OF 2.47 MILLION OR, UH, MILLION DOLLARS. 
          UH, LICENSE AND PERMITS, UH, ARE BASED ON THE CURRENT TRENDS. 
          WE ARE SEEING A LITTLE BIT OF A REBOUND IN THAT AREA, UH, AFTER SOME SLOWDOWN DURING THE PANDEMIC. 
          UH, BUT IT ALSO INCLUDES ABOUT $204,000 IN SOME, UH, FEE ADJUSTMENTS THAT WE'RE GONNA SHOW YOU HERE SHORTLY. 
          UM, THE ACTIVITY AT THE MUNICIPAL COURT SHOWS A SLIGHT DECREASE THERE. 
          UH, BASED ON ACTIVITY LEVEL INTEREST RATES, YOU'LL SEE WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR INTEREST REVENUE, ABOUT $1.3 MILLION INCREASE. 
          UH, A LOT OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE, UH, INCREASE IN THE RATES THAT WE'VE SEEN RECENTLY, AS WELL AS SOME, UH, CHANGES TO OUR, OUR, OUR INVESTMENT POLICIES. 
          UM, RECREATION LEISURE, UH, WE, IT'S PROJECTED TO GO UP 443,000 BUDGET TO BUDGET. 
          UH, THIS DOES REFLECT A FULL COMMUNITY EVENTS, FULL POOL ACTIVITY, AS WELL AS FULL, UH, CLASSES AT THE, UH, REC CENTER AND SENIOR CENTERS. 
          UH, THERE IS A SLIGHT, UH, FEE INCREASE THAT WE ARE GONNA PROPOSE IN THAT AS WELL. 
          OTHER REVENUE, UH, A SLIGHT DROP. 
          UH, IT'S KIND OF A MIXED BAG. 
          WE'VE HAD SOME INCREASES IN AMBULANCE REVENUE AND NINE AND 9 1 1 REVENUE HAS KIND OF BEEN DECLINING. 
          WE HAD A, UH, ONE-TIME SPIKE, OR NOT SPIKE ONE TIME, UM, CATCH UP FROM SOME OF OUR, UH, VOICEOVER IP UH, PROVIDER. 
          SO WE SAW A LITTLE BIT OF INCREASE, AND NOW THAT'S COMING BACK DOWN TO WHERE IT'S BEEN HISTORICALLY. 
          UM, AND THEN WE'VE HAD SOME REDUCTIONS IN STUFF LIKE, UH, AUCTION REVENUE AND, AND, UH, SOME OF THOSE OTHER MISCELLANEOUS REVENUES AS WELL. 
          AS FAR AS THE FEE INCREASES, UH, THE BIG ONE HERE IS, UH, IN THE BUILDING INSPECTION AREA. 
          UM, A LOT OF THIS IS MARKET DRIVEN, UH, BUT WE ALSO LOOK AT, AT COST RECOVERY, UH, EVERY YEAR WE ASK OUR DEPARTMENTS TO LOOK AT THEIR FEES, UH, AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE IN LINE WITH WHAT THE MARKET IS CHARGING. 
          BUT WE ALSO WANT TO KNOW IS, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DON'T WANNA JUST INCREASE, JUST INCREASE, BUT WE WE'RE SEEING INCREASED COST AS FAR AS INSPECTIONS GO, UH, PERSONNEL GOES. 
          UM, SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING ABOUT, UH, A $204,000 INCREASE THERE. 
          UH, IN GYMNASTICS, IT'S, IT'S A MARKET DRIVEN, UH, INCREASE. 
          IT'S A, IT'S ACROSS MULTIPLE, UM, GYMNASTICS FEES. 
          YOU KNOW, THIS IS ONE THAT WE, IT'S HARD FOR US TO COMPARE MARKET-WISE TO NOT A LOT OF CITIES OFFER GYMNASTIC SERVICES, SO THEY GO OUT AND DO SOME, SOME, UH, FEE COMPARISON WITH SOME, UH, PRIVATE SECTOR ENTITIES AS WELL. 
          UM, THE POOLS, WHAT WE'RE PLANNING ON DOING HERE, UH, IN OUR REC CENTERS AND OUR SENIOR CENTERS, UH, NON-RESIDENTS PAY DOUBLE WHAT THE, THE RESIDENTS PAY. 
          UH, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE THAT CONSISTENT WITH THE POOLS AS WELL. 
          SO WE'RE, WE'RE PROPOSING INCREASING THE POOL, UH, NON-RESIDENT FEES, UH, TO MAKE IT DOUBLE WHAT, UH, THE RESIDENT WOULD PAY. 
          IT'S ABOUT $1,700, SO IT'S NOT A LOT OF REVENUE, UH, BUT WE'RE JUST TRYING 
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TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CONSISTENT WITH, UH, OUR OTHER PRACTICES IN THAT AREA. 
          UH, AS DON MENTIONED, UH, WE ARE INCREASING, UH, BUDGET TO ABOUT $176 MILLION, WHICH IS AN INCREASE OF JUST SLIGHTLY, UH, BELOW 13 MILLION. 
          UH, THIS FUND IS VERY, UM, PERSONNEL HEAVY. 
          UH, IT'S 62% PERSONNEL, UH, OR IT'S 66% PERSONNEL, BUT 62% OF THE INCREASE IS COMING IN THE PERSONNEL AREA, AND THAT'S THE 5%, THE LONGEVITY CHANGES, AS WELL AS THE BENEFITS THAT COME WITH THAT. 
          UH, PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, IT GOT, DON KIND OF HIT IT ON AS, AS HE WAS GOING THROUGH SOME OF THE, THE PROGRAM FEES. 
          THIS HAS INCREASED, UH, CON, UH, PROFESSIONAL SERVICES FOR, FOR CONTRACT MOWING, POOL, UH, MAINTENANCE, UH, THE BUREAU OF VERITAS, UH, UH, CONTRACT OR BUILDING, UH, INSPECTIONS, SOME OF THE FEES IN EISMAN OR IN, UH, IT, SOME OF THEIR, UH, SOFTWARE AGREEMENTS. 
          UH, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SEEING SOME OF THE LARGEST INCREASES. 
          AND THEN MAINTENANCE IS, UH, BEING IMPACTED BY SOME OF THE THINGS THAT DON TALKED ABOUT IN, IN OUR TRAFFIC IN OUR FACILITY AREAS. 
          THINGS ARE JUST MORE EXPENSIVE TO DO NOWADAYS. 
          PLUS WE HAVE SOME ENHANCED, UM, UH, PROGRAMS AS WELL. 
          THE OTHER AREA YOU'LL SEE IS THIS TRANSFERS OUT, UH, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THOSE QUICKLY, BUT THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE THE TRADITIONAL PENNY TAX THAT WE, WE USED TO CALL 'EM. 
          UM, WITH THAT SAID, 76% OF OUR, UM, CITY'S GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES ARE IN THESE FOUR CATEGORIES. 
          PUBLIC SAFETY MAKES UP THE LARGEST AREA, 60, ALMOST $70 MILLION, 40% OF THE TOTAL BUDGET, FOLLOWED BY GENERAL GOVERNMENT, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE, MOBILITY, AND RECREATION LEISURE. 
          SO THOSE FOUR AREAS MAKE UP 76% OF OUR TOTAL EXPENDITURES. 
          UH, THESE ARE WHAT WE, UH, TRADITIONALLY CALLED OUR PENNY TAX, UM, DEDICATIONS, UH, WITH THE, THE LIMITS THAT, UH, SB TWO PUT ON US OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS, THEY ARE TIED TO THE GROWTH OF PROPERTY TAX REVENUE. 
          SO PROPERTY TAX REVENUE GROWS THREE AND HALF PERCENT. 
          WE'RE GONNA PROGRAM THESE TO GROW THREE AND A HALF PERCENT. 
          IF IT GROWS 2%, WE'LL PROGRAM THESE TO GROW 2%. 
          NOW, THE ONE PLACE THAT WE DID MAKE, UH, A LARGER THAN, UM, STANDARD, UH, INCREASE IS THERE IN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WHICH DON TIED ON OR TO, UH, TALKED ABOUT. 
          UH, BUT IN THE FUTURE, WE WILL GO BACK TO INDEX OR, UH, GROWING THESE AT THE SAME RATE AS PROPERTY VALUES OR PROPERTY TAXES. 
          UM, DAYS OF FUND BALANCE, WE DO ACHIEVE OUR 90 DAY MINIMUM FUND BALANCE. 
          AND AS YOU CAN SEE, UH, YOU KNOW, OVER THE LAST EIGHT YEARS, WE WERE ABLE TO GROW FUND BALANCE FROM THE 60 DAYS TO 90 DAYS WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY. 
          SO, UH, THIS WAS BENEFICIAL FOR US AS FAR AS OUR AUDITORS GO, AND OUR, OUR, UH, RATING AGENCIES GO. 
          UH, SO WE, OUR GOAL IS TO MAINTAIN THAT, UM, GOING FORWARD. 
          SO, DO I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. 
          SURE. 
          HEY, BOB, THANK YOU FOR PUTTING ALL THIS TOGETHER, UH, WITH THE, THE SALES TAX ESTIMATE. 
          I, I, I APPRECIATE YOU LAID OUT A VERY GOOD CASE FOR BUDGETING IT CONSERVATIVELY. 
          AND SO I, I UNDERSTAND WHY WE DO THAT YEAR OVER YEAR, BUT, UM, IT SEEMS LIKE EVEN AT ITS FLATTEST, IT'S NEVER BEEN, UH, JUST A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS MORE THAN COLLECTIONS FROM THE PRIOR YEAR. 
          SO I, I JUST, I DON'T KNOW, I GUESS I WOULD ENCOURAGE Y'ALL TO, IT SEEMS LIKE YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY TO THAT FOR SURE. 
          WELL, THE FIRST THING WE DO THOUGH MM-HMM. 
          , AND I AGREE, IT LOOKS ON PAPER IT'S 95,000 INCREASE, BUT WE DO BACK OUT THE ONETIME AUDIT ADJUSTMENTS, AND THAT'S ROUGHLY 1.2, 1.4 MILLION THIS YEAR. 
          SO WE WE'RE TAKING THAT OFF THE TABLE. 
          WE'RE NOT GOING TO GROW OFF OF THAT. 
          UH, SO THAT'S THE FIRST THING WE DO. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, SO THAT DOES MAKE THE, THE GROWTH A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. 
          UH, WE'VE HAD YEARS WHERE THE AUTO ADJUSTMENTS WEREN'T ANYWHERE CLOSE TO THAT, SO, OKAY. 
          UM, BUT YEAH, I MEAN, OUR INTENT IS TO STAY CONSERVATIVE. 
          UH, IT, IT'S CONSISTENT WITH OUR, OUR, UH, FINANCIAL POLICIES THE LAST COUPLE YEARS. 
          UM, BUT WE, WE WILL CONTINUE TO KEEP LOOKING AT THAT AND SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT ROOM WE DO HAVE IN THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          IT JUST SEEMED, I MEAN, IT SEEMED TO ME LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE INCREASING FEES OR IF THERE'S A LOT OF CALL ACROSS THE BOARD FOR, FOR INCREASES RIGHT. 
          TO, UH, THAT 6% INCREASE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER HUTCHER TALKED ABOUT. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          I, I GUESS I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, THAT ON PAPER IT LOOKS A LOT MORE, MAYBE A LOT MORE FLAT THAN IT ACTUALLY IS, BUT STILL IT WAS JUST, UH, SURE. 
          IT WAS JUST SOMETHING NEEDED. 
          SURE. 
          WE'LL CONTINUE TO MONITOR THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          SURE. 
          MR. BARRIOS. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. 
          BOB, I, UH, HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS REGARDING THE, UH, GENERAL FUND FEE CHANGES UNDER THE PARKS AND POOLS. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, THE NON-RESIDENT NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THOSE ARE JUST FOR NON-RESIDENTS, CORRECT? UH, YES, SIR. 
          SO THERE, SO AS FOR, AND THAT'S FOR THE YEARLY NON-RESIDENT PASSES, SO THAT'S NOT GONNA AFFECT, THERE'S NO CHANGE FOR RESIDENTS 
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AND THERE'S NO CHANGE FOR DAILY PASSES. 
          THAT'S JUST FOR LIKE THE SEASON PASS. 
          UH, I'M JUST CLARIFYING, I'M ASSUMING 'CAUSE IT'S NOT THERE, THERE'S NO CHANGE IN PROPOSED FEES FOR IT. 
          IT'S, WE'RE NOT AFFECTING RESIDENTS WITH THAT AT ALL. 
          NO. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT, UM, OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          JUST AS FAR AS, BUT AS FAR AS DAILY FEES, WE DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT'S, I KNOW YOU CAN BUY, AND AGAIN, I'M COMING FROM THE RESIDENT PERSPECTIVE. 
          I KNOW MY SON, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS, TWO, $3 OR LIKE THE SUMMER I BOUGHT MY SON A PASS FOR THE SEASON. 
          UM, AND I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT WE PAID FOR IT NOW, BUT, BUT AT THE DAILY RATE, UM, THAT'S NOT CHANGING. 
          IT'S JUST THE YEAR. 
          AGAIN, I KNOW WE'RE NOT CHANGING FOR THE RESIDENT. 
          I BELIEVE WE ALREADY CHARGE NON-RESIDENTS DAILY PASSES IS HIGHER THAN A YEAH, WE DO. 
          THIS IS JUST MAKING IT CONSISTENT ACROSS THOSE, UM, SEASONAL PASSES. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          IF THERE'S NO MORE QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME, I THINK IT'D BE A GOOD TIME FOR US TO REFUEL, TAKE ABOUT A 10 MINUTE BREAK AND THEN WE'LL GET BACK TO GOING TO BUSINESS. 
          ALRIGHT, WE'LL COME OUT OF RECESS. 
          IT IS 8:30 PM MR. MAGNER, THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          MAYOR AND COUNCIL, UH, AND, AND APPRECIATE, UH, ALL THE PARTICIPATION ENGAGEMENT TONIGHT. 
          THANK YOU, BOB, FOR, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. 
          UH, THIS NEXT SECTION IS A, UM, A TOPIC THAT WE WANTED TO, UH, UH, VISIT ON. 
          WE FELT LIKE THIS WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE NIGHT OF THE WORKSHOP AND, AND THE APPROPRIATE TIME OF THE EVENING. 
          UM, IT'S A FAIR, VERY FAIR CURIOSITY. 
          THERE'S A LOT ABOUT PROPERTY TAXES, UH, BEING DISCUSSED AT THE STATE LEVEL. 
          UM, THERE'S A LOT OF, UM, I THINK MISINFORMATION ABOUT PROPERTY TAXES AND WHAT IS, UH, HAPPENING. 
          UM, AND SO WE WANTED TO TAKE JUST A CHANCE TO PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW AND FOR, UH, THE COUNCIL AND FOR THE COMMUNITY TO REALLY UNDERSTAND, UM, WHAT IMPLEMENTATION OF ANY OF THESE STRATEGIES WOULD MEAN. 
          UM, PARTICULARLY COMING OUT OF THE CHAT WE JUST HAD, UM, UM, ABOUT, UH, THE NEEDS AND THE, UH, PLANNED EXPENDITURES FOR THIS, UH, PROPOSED BUDGET. 
          SO, UH, COUPLE OF THINGS WE WANNA TALK ABOUT. 
          SO TAX DEFERRALS, UM, TAX EXEMPTIONS, TAX CEILINGS, AND THEN THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION. 
          YOU CAN SEE A BRIEF, UH, A SUMMARY, UM, OF EACH OF THESE, BUT WE'RE GONNA GO TO 'EM IN, INTO EACH IN DETAIL. 
          SO LET'S START WITH THE DEFERRALS. 
          UM, SO ANY SENIOR, UM, 65 OR OLD, OR AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, A 55 PLUS SURVIVING SPOUSE, UM, CAN AUTOMATICALLY DEFER THEIR TAXES. 
          THERE'S NO ACTION THAT'S REQUIRED BY THE CITY OF RICHARDSON. 
          THIS IS ALLOWED BY STATE STATUTE. 
          UM, ESSENTIALLY THEY CAN DEFER THE TAXES THAT ARE ACCRUED, UM, INTEREST AT ABOUT FIVE, UH, PERCENT PER YEAR, UM, FROM THE DELINQUENCY DATE ON IS, UH, IS ASSESSED. 
          UH, THE TAXES CAN BE PAID AT ANY TIME TO BE CAUGHT UP OR THE SENIOR CAN ALLOW THE ESTATE TO HANDLE THOSE TAXES. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS, UH, QUITE OFTEN. 
          UM, AS OF, UH, DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR, WE ACTUALLY HAVE 2,153 ACCOUNTS, UM, UH, SENIORS THAT, UH, IS, UH, USING THIS OPTION AND, AND DEFERRING THEIR TAXES. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT SOMETIMES WE'LL RUN INTO IS WHEN, UM, A SENIOR USES THIS STRATEGY AND THEN THEY, AT THE END OF, UM, UM, AND WHEN THE ESTATE, UM, INHERITS THE HOUSE, IF THE TAXES EXCEED THE HOUSE VALUE. 
          NOW THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN VERY MUCH ANYMORE, UM, ONLY BECAUSE, UM, THE HOME VALUES ARE SO, SO HIGH. 
          BUT WHEN THAT DOES HAPPEN, IT CREATES A LITTLE BIT OF AN ISSUE FOR US. 
          UH, THAT'S GENERALLY WHEN, EVENTUALLY BECAUSE OF PROPERTY STANDARDS, WE'LL HAVE TO TAKE THE HOUSE TO THE BUILDING AND STANDARDS COMMISSION. 
          AND ULTIMATELY, SOMETIMES WE END UP WITH IT OR IT'S SOLD ON THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, UH, COURTHOUSE STEPS AND, AND THEN EVENTUALLY WE'RE MADE WHOLE OR PARTIALLY WHOLE, UM, THE 65 PLUS DISABLED PERSON'S EXEMPTION. 
          THAT'S, UH, THAT, THAT'S THE POLICY. 
          WE'RE CURRENTLY SUBSCRIBING TO THIS AS, AS PART OF OUR FINANCIAL POLICY, WE PROVIDED AN ANNUAL REVIEW, AS YOU VERY WELL KNOW, EVERY, EVERY YEAR ABOUT FEBRUARY. 
          UM, AND OUR GOAL, UH, YOUR GOAL THAT YOU'VE, UH, ADOPTED IS TO MAINTAIN APPROXIMATELY A 30% OF THE AVERAGE SENIOR'S HOME VALUE TO BE EXEMPT FROM THE TAXES. 
          UH, EARLIER THIS YEAR, YOU, YOU MOVE THE TAX EXEMPTION, UH, UP FROM 1 0 5 TO ONE 30 FOR THIS BUDGET YEAR THAT PROVIDES A PROTECTED, UM, UH, PROTECTION OF ABOUT 32.11%. 
          SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE 8,450 OTHER ACCOUNTS, UH, THAT RECEIVED THAT EXEMPTION, UM, THAT'S ABOUT 31% OF OUR TOTAL ACCOUNTS CITYWIDE. 
          UH, THE AVERAGE MARKET VALUE OF A SENIOR'S HOME IS ABOUT 4 0 5. 
          UM, SO CURRENTLY AT THE CURRENT TAX RATE THAT PROVIDES AN ANNUAL HOME SAVINGS OF ABOUT, UH, AN ANNUAL SAVINGS TO THE HOMEOWNER OF ABOUT 700 AND UH, $29. 
          UM, ONE THING ABOUT THE EXEMPTION THAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE IS THAT IT CAN BE CHANGED, IT CAN BE MOVED UP, IT CAN BE MOVED DOWN, IT CAN BE VERY FLUID. 
          UH, IT'S A TOOL, IT'S A TOOL THAT CAN BE VERY RESPONSIVE TO THE TIME. 
          UM, AND OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU THINK 
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BACK OVER THE LAST, YOU KNOW, 25 YEARS, WE'VE HAD OUR UPS AND DOWNS IN TERMS OF LOCAL ECONOMY AND, UH, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WAS FLEXIBLE AND SOMETHING THAT CAN BE UTILIZED. 
          UM, UH, THE TAX CEILING, UM, UH, IS A, IS A DIFFERENT TOOL. 
          UM, AND WHAT, UH, KEITH AND HIS TEAM DID WAS JUST A, A REALLY AWESOME JOB OF, UH, LOOKING AT THE CEILING, UM, AND, UH, COMPARING THAT TO WHAT THE TAX EXEMPTION, UM, IS. 
          SO A COUPLE ASSUMPTIONS HERE THAT YOU CAN KIND OF SEE. 
          SO THEY USED THE HISTORICAL, UH, VALUE GROWTH OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS. 
          THE TA HISTORICAL TAX RATES, THEY MAINTAINED AN EXEMPTION AT $55,000 IN PLACE. 
          UM, UM, UM, AND THEN THE, UM, THE EXEMPTION, UM, UM, FOR THE DURATION OF THE 10 YEAR PERIOD, UM, AS WELL. 
          UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE CEILING, WHICH THE CEILING IS, WHEN YOU TURN 65, YOU CAN FREEZE THE VALUE AND IT CANNOT BE CHANGED UNTIL YOU NO LONGER HAVE THAT AS YOUR HOMESTEAD. 
          UM, IT'S NOT REVERSIBLE. 
          SO EVEN IF THIS, THE ECONOMIC CONDITIONS CHANGE DRAMATICALLY, THAT SENIOR, THAT VALUE IS STAYS IN PLACE, UM, AND REGARDLESS OF HOW MUCH THE HOUSE VALUE WOULD, WOULD GO UP, UH, OVER TIME THAT VALUE IS, IS, IS LOCKED IN PLACE. 
          SO IF YOU COMPARE OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS USING THESE DATA POINTS AS ASSUMPTIONS, UM, THE VALUE TO SENIORS WOULD'VE BEEN ESTIMATED TO BE ABOUT $60 MILLION COMPARED TO THE $40 MILLION THAT SENIORS ACHIEVED FROM, UH, THE, UH, EXEMPTION THAT'S CURRENTLY IN PLACE. 
          SO THE CEILING WOULD'VE NETTED 67, THE EXEMPTION 40, UH, MILLION. 
          SO THAT'S AN AVERAGE LOSS OF REVENUE TO THE CITY OF ABOUT $2.7 MILLION A YEAR OVER THAT 10 YEAR PERIOD. 
          SO EVERY YEAR THE CITY WOULD'VE HAD $2.7 MILLION LESS REVENUE TO, UH, INCLUDE IN ITS BUDGET. 
          THAT WOULD'VE BEEN ABOUT 1.7 MILLION FOR OPERATIONS AND ABOUT 1 MILLION FOR DEBT SERVICE. 
          UM, THE AVERAGE SENIOR WOULD HAVE SAVED ABOUT $394 MORE, UM, THAN THEY SAVED, UM, YOU WITH THE CEILING THAN THEY WOULD HAVE, UM, UM, UNDER THE EXEMPTION. 
          UM, BUT THAT'S REGARDLESS OF THE VALUE OF THEIR HOME, UM, OR ANY OF THEIR OTHER ECONOMIC, UH, UH, STATUS, UM, OR, OR STANDING. 
          SO WHAT WOULD THE CITY, UH, SO LOSING $2.7 MILLION A YEAR, UH, FOR 10 YEARS, UH, CONSECUTIVE, WHAT KIND OF CHOICES WOULD THAT HAVE NECESSITATED? BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE, UM, VALUE PROPOSITION THAT WE FIND, RIGHT? THAT IS THE, THAT IS THE QUESTION. 
          YOU CAN DO ALL OF THESE THINGS. 
          UM, YOU CAN, YOU CAN PROVIDE ALL OF THESE, UH, EXEMPTIONS. 
          UM, YOU'RE JUST GOING TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A LOT LESS IN TERMS OF SERVICES AND PROGRAMS OR OTHER THINGS. 
          SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE, UH, 1.65 MILLION, UH, ON THE OPERATION SIDE, SO IF WE WOULD'VE HAD A CEILING VERSUS THE EXEMPTION, UH, IT WOULD'VE BEEN ADDITIONAL $1.6 MILLION LESS PER YEAR ON THE OPERATION SIDE. 
          SO THESE ARE JUST KIND OF THREE EXAMPLES. 
          UM, SO YOU WOULD'VE BEEN ABLE TO ONLY FUND ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS OF PUBLIC SAFETY PLAN COMPENSATION EACH YEAR VERSUS THE 2.7 MILLION, FOR INSTANCE, OR MAYBE THE PAY GO. 
          SO ALL OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE, YOU WOULD'VE HAD ABOUT $2 MILLION A YEAR, LESS TO PUT TOWARDS INFRASTRUCTURE THAN YOU WOULD'VE HAD, UH, OR THE LIBRARY, UH, UH, FOR, FOR THE SAME, INTERESTINGLY, ON THE DEBT SIDE, THE $1 MILLION IN DEBT SERVICE WOULD EQUATES TO ABOUT $17.6 MILLION IN DEBT CAPACITY. 
          NOW, THAT'S NOT YEAR OVER YEAR, THAT'S JUST, THAT'S THAT $17 MILLION TOTAL. 
          BUT IF YOU ADD ALL THREE OF THESE UP, FIRE STATION FIVE RENOVATION, THE RESIDENTIAL SIDEWALK PROGRAM AND THE 2021 BOND PROGRAM, AND THEN THE WHOLE PARKS PROPOSITION, THAT'S JUST ABOUT THAT $17.6 MILLION. 
          SO ALL OF THAT WOULD'VE HAD TO, UH, BEEN FOREGO OR WOULD'VE HAD TO BEEN FUNDED IN A DIFFERENT WAY HAD WE HAD THE CEILING IN PLACE VERSUS, UM, THE, UH, TAX EXEMPTION. 
          SO, AS I MENTIONED, THE COUNCIL'S HISTORIC APPROACH TO THIS IS TO MAINTAIN A STRONG TAX EXEMPTION FOR SENIORS, UM, USING THE, UH, SENIOR EXEMPTION. 
          AND CURRENTLY AT THAT, THAT 130,000, UH, DOLLARS LEVEL. 
          UM, SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT A SENIOR THAT MIGHT SAY OWN A, UM, SAY A MILLION DOLLAR HOME VERSUS A THE AVERAGE SENIOR THAT OWNS A $400 HOME, UM, THIS DISPROPORTIONATELY, IN THAT CASE, IT, IT HELPS THE SENIOR WITH THE LOWER, UH, VALUED HOME, RIGHT? 'CAUSE IT'S A 30%, UH, UH, UH, UH, PROTECTION VERSUS LIKE A, UH, 13% PROTECTION. 
          UM, SO YOU CAN ARGUE THAT THIS IS A MORE EFFECTIVE STRATEGY OF WHO YOU'RE REALLY TRYING TO HELP IS THE SENIOR THAT HAS, YOU KNOW, THE, THE LOWER, THE LOWER VALUED HOME AND PROBABLY, UM, OVERALL PROBABLY A, A LOWER INCOME AND, AND, AND PROBABLY, UH, IN A, IN A MORE, UH, UNIQUE SITUATION, UM, THE CEILING VER VERSUS THE EXEMPTION. 
          ALSO, YOU HAVE TO ALSO HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT IF BOB AND I LIVE IN THE, IN, IN TWO NEXT TO EACH OTHER, AND WE BOTH HAVE SAY $500,000 HOMES, UM, IF BOB TURNS, UH, 65, 5 YEARS BEFORE ME, HIS VALUE IS 
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FROZE AT THAT, AT THAT NUMBER. 
          WELL, IF I DON'T TURN 65 FOR FIVE MORE YEARS, MY VALUE IS GONNA BE FROZE AT A DIFFERENT NUMBER. 
          EVEN THOUGH WE HAD THE SAME SQUARE FEET HOME PRACTICALLY, THEY WERE ORIGINALLY AT THE SAME TIME. 
          IT'S JUST THE VALUE, IT'S JUST THE TIME THAT THAT FREEZES THAT VALUE. 
          SO YOU HAVE AN INEQUITY EVEN AMONGST HOMES THAT ARE OF A OF A VERY SIMILAR NATURE, SITUATIONS THAT ARE A VERY SIMILAR, SIMILAR NATURE. 
          UM, AND THEN, UH, IMPORTANT TO KNOW, I THINK BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, UH, OUR BUSINESS PROPERTY TAXES ARE SUCH A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF OUR TAX. 
          WHEN YOU FREEZE THE, THE VALUE, UH, COMPLETELY FREEZE IT. 
          LIKE THIS, THE UNDER 65 IN THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY BEGAN TO SHOULDER A BIGGER PART OF THE INFLATIONARY PRESSURES THAT NECESSITATE HIGHER TAXES. 
          AND SO WHAT YOU FIND, UM, IS IT'S A DIS IT CAN BE A DISINCENTIVE, UM, WHEN THAT PROPORTION STARTS TO GROW SIGNIFICANTLY FOR BUSINESSES OR EVEN FOR YOUNG FAMILIES DECIDING WHERE THEY WANNA LIVE AND WHAT THEY WANT TO GET IN RETURN FOR THEIR TAX DOLLARS. 
          IT'S A, IT'S A DIFFERENT CONSIDERATION. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK AS WE THINK ABOUT SENIORS, WE REALLY SHOULD THINK ABOUT A WHOLISTIC, HOW, HOW WE APPROACH IT HOLISTICALLY. 
          UM, YOU THINK ABOUT THINGS LIKE THE TRASH, UH, THE, THE TRASH DISCOUNT, THE SENIOR PROGRAMMING AND THE TRANSPORTATION SERVICES WE OFFER 'EM, UM, THE CONTRIBUTIONS THAT WE MAKE TO THE NETWORK, WHICH TRANSLATE TO, UH, SERVICES FOR SENIORS, UM, THE SENIOR CENTER ITSELF, I THINK THAT WE, I DO, I KNOW YOU DO. 
          WE, OUR, OUR ORGANIZATION VALUES OUR SENIOR CITIZENS, AND WE TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE EVERYTHING THAT THEY NEED. 
          IT'S NOT THAT THE CEILING IS, IS A BAD TOOL, IS THE QUESTION IS, IS IT THE RIGHT TOOL FOR OUR CIRCUMSTANCES, AS IN THE CITY OF RICHARDSON? UM, I'M GONNA COME BACK TO THAT IN JUST A SECOND. 
          THE OTHER ISSUE THAT WE'VE ASKED, UH, WE'VE BEEN ASKED ABOUT OFTEN IS THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION. 
          AND WHY DON'T WE HAVE A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION? AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, OUR TAX, THE TAX CODE ALLOWS FOR A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION UP TO A MAXIMUM OF 20%. 
          UM, IT MAY NOT BE LESS THAN $5,000, UM, WHICH FOR US EQUATES TO AROUND 1% OR SO. 
          UH, AND TO RECEIVE THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION EXEMPTION, ALL, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS CLAIM THAT PARTICULAR RESIDENCE AS YOUR HOMESTEAD. 
          AND AS LONG AS YOU STAY IN THAT, IF IT'S YOUR PRINCIPAL RESIDENT, UM, YOU GET THAT EXEMPTION. 
          SO AS YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE IMPACTS OF THAT, YOU LOOK AT OUR 27,000, UH, RESIDENTIAL ACCOUNTS AND THE TAXABLE VALUE. 
          YOU CAN SEE HERE ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, YOU HAVE THE HOMESTEAD, UH, EXEMPTION, SO THE $5,000 MINIMUM OR THE 1%, AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE INCREMENTS ALL THE WAY UP TO 20%. 
          UM, YOU SEE THE, UH, GENERAL FUND LEVY LOSS AND THE DEBT SERVICE LEVEL LOSS, BUT LOOK AT THAT TOTAL LEVY LOSS. 
          SO A 1% WOULD MEAN, YOU KNOW, ABOUT $600,000 LESS A YEAR, UH, REVENUE. 
          UM, IT WOULD EQUATE TO ABOUT A $28 A YEAR SAVINGS, UH, SAVINGS TO A HOMEOWNER OR TO A PER RESIDENCE. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, I EQUATE THIS TO A LOT OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT THE COUNCIL HAS HAD IN THE PAST YEARS WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT REDUCING THE TAX RATE BY MAYBE 50 CENTS OR EVEN A PENNY. 
          AND WE SAY, WHAT COULD THAT MEAN COLLECTIVELY VERSUS WHAT COULD, YOU KNOW, $28 TO A PERSON MEAN? UM, I THINK AS AT THAT LEVEL, YOU HAVE TO KIND OF EQUATE IT TO THAT KIND OF A, A VALUE PROPOSITION. 
          NOW, IF YOU WANNA DO A 20%, WELL, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ANOTHER $443, BUT IF YOU LOOK TOTALLY, THAT'S ABOUT $12 MILLION A YEAR. 
          SO TAKE THIS YEAR FOR EXAMPLE, WE WOULD HAVE ESSENTIALLY $1 MILLION MORE IN REVENUE THIS YEAR, UM, FOR EVERYTHING IF THE $13 MILLION HOLDS UP. 
          SO YOU CAN KIND OF LOOK AT THE, UH, IN TERMS OF THE SPLIT OF THAT, IT WOULD BE ABOUT $3.5 MILLION A YEAR FOR OPERATIONS. 
          SO ESSENTIALLY, NOTHING ON THIS PAGE WOULD BE, UH, AVAILABLE TO US. 
          UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE DEBT, UM, SERVICE, IT'D BE ABOUT 2.25 FOR DEBT SERVICE. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE ABOUT A $37.7 MILLION LOSS IN DEBT CAPACITY IN OUR OVERALL, OVERALL PROGRAM. 
          OR, OR ESSENTIALLY, UH, YOU KNOW, THE ORIGINAL LIBRARY RENOVATION WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ABLE TO BE INCLUDED, UM, IN, IN THE, UH, 2015 BOND PROGRAM. 
          SO YOU SEE APPROXIMATELY, AS YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT 60% OF PROPERTY TAXES ARE PAID BY BUSINESSES. 
          SO WHEN YOU PROVIDE A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION LIKE THIS, YOU'RE MAKING THAT EVEN A LARGER PERCENT, WHICH, YOU KNOW, HOMEOWNERS MAY SAY THAT'S GREAT. 
          HOWEVER, IN TIME, IN DOWN TIMES WHEN PRO COMMERCIAL PROPERTY VALUES DECLINE, THAT'S NOT A REAL GOOD PLACE TO BE. 
          AND IF YOU WANT TO KEEP THE SAME LEVEL OF SERVICES AND PROGRAMS THAT YOU HAVE, AND YOU WANNA BE ABLE TO OFFER THOSE WITHOUT ANY INTERRUPTION OR ANY KIND OF A CHANGE, IT'S REALLY KIND OF THAT WHOLE THING. 
          THING OF, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE PUTTING ALL YOUR EGGS IN ONE BASKET KIND OF THING, TOO MUCH. 
          UM, IF YOU WANTED TO KEEP THE SAME, UM, UM, UH, LET TAX REVENUES THAT WE HAVE TODAY, BUT OFFER AN EXEMPTION, THEN OBVIOUSLY YOU'D HAVE TO CHANGE THE TAX RATE. 
          AND YOU CAN KIND OF SEE ON THE LOW END, YOU'D HAVE TO GO BACK UP TO ABOUT 56.359 ALL THE WAY UP TO ABOUT 61.894 IF YOU WANTED TO OFFER THE 20%, UH, 20% EXEMPTION. 
          NOW, THERE'S BEEN A TON OF, OF TALK, OBVIOUSLY, UH, IN THE, IN THE, IN THE NEWS ABOUT THE, UH, WHAT DID THE STATE DO FROM A, UH, PROPERTY TAX RELIEF STANDPOINT, THE STATE AFTER CAPPING LOCAL GOVERNMENTS THROUGH SB TWO AND SAYING, YOU CAN ONLY INCREASE YOUR REVENUE BY THREE AND A HALF PERCENT. 
          THE STATE FOCUSED THIS SESSION ON, UM, ON, UH, SCHOOL PROPERTY TAX REFORM AND, UM, YOU KNOW, 
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THE, THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS ESSENTIALLY HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION THAT EVERY HOMEOWNER WILL NOW RECEIVE, UM, FROM THEIR SCHOOL TAXES. 
          UM, IF YOU TAKE THESE THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION, UH, BOTH, BOTH, BOTH OF THESE, UM, I THINK THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I WOULD, I WOULD TAKE AWAY BEFORE MAYBE WE HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. 
          UM, THIS IS ONE OF THE REALMS THAT THE STATE HAS NOT TAKEN AWAY OUR LOCAL CONTROL YET, THANKFULLY, UM, YOU KNOW, TO BE DETERMINED MAYBE, UH, AS THEY CONTINUE TO LOOK. 
          BUT WE CAN STILL PROVIDE A TAX RELIEF PROGRAM, UM, AT WHATEVER SCALE AND LEVEL THAT YOU DEEM IS APPROPRIATE. 
          BUT THAT IS UNIQUE TO OUR NEEDS AS A CITY AND UNIQUE TO, UM, WHAT WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO OFFER TO OUR CITIZENS IN TERMS OF PROGRAMS AND SERVICES. 
          BECAUSE AGAIN, YOU JUST SAW THERE'S A BALANCE ON BOTH SIDES. 
          YOU CAN'T DO BOTH. 
          UM, YOU CAN'T OFFER WHAT WE'RE OFFERING AND DO ANY, ANY OF THOSE NEW STRATEGIES, THE PROGRAMS AND SERVICES WILL HAVE TO GO DOWN. 
          UM, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE HERE, WE'RE OFFERING THEM US $5 MILLION A YEAR CURRENTLY IN EXEMPTION IN, IN, UH, PROPERTY TAX SAVINGS, UH, TO SENIOR CITIZENS. 
          UM, I TALKED ABOUT CHANGING TO A CEILING. 
          WOULD IT, IT WOULD COST ABOUT AN ADDITIONAL $2.7 MILLION A YEAR, MORE THE EXEMPTION ANYWHERE FROM 580,000 TO 11.6 MORE. 
          UM, I BELIEVE THERE'S A REASON WHY PRIOR CITY COUNCILS HAVE LOOKED AT THIS ISSUED AND AFFIRMED THE POSITION THAT WE CURRENTLY, UH, UTILIZE. 
          UM, BECAUSE IN THIS CITY, UM, I THINK IT'S LIKE ANYTHING ELSE. 
          OUR CITIZENS SEE A VALUE IN THE PROGRAMS AND SERVICES WE OFFER. 
          UM, THEY SEE TWICE A WEEK TRASH COLLECTION. 
          THEY SEE, UM, THE AWESOME EVENTS AND, AND THAT WE OFFER, UH, THEY CAN COME AND HAVE RESPONSE, UH, POLICE AND FIRE RESPONSE TIMES THAT ARE SECOND TO NONE. 
          AND I THINK THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO, TO, TO, UM, PAY THE TAXES TO HAVE THOSE KIND OF SERVICES. 
          THEY CHOOSE TO LEAVE LIVE HERE FOR THOSE REASONS. 
          UM, AS I LOOK AT THE CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE AHEAD, AS I LOOK AT THE NEED TO STAY COMPETITIVE AND POLICE AND FIRE COMP AS TO, TO, TO, TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE A COMPETITIVE PROGRAM FOR ENGINEERS AND ACCOUNTANTS AND OTHER PROFESSIONALS TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT BY OUR FRONTLINE EMPLOYEES, UH, BUT TO ALSO KEEP UP WITH OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND REINVESTMENT, UM, THAT'S STARTING TO FAR OUTPACE WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY, UH, DEVOTING TO IT. 
          IT'S MY RECOMMENDATION, UM, THAT WE STAY THE COURSE. 
          WE CONTINUE TO USE THE, THE APPROACH THAT WE HAVE USED AND, UM, WE CONTINUE TO PROVE TO OUR CITIZENS THAT THEIR DOLLARS ARE PUT TO VERY GOOD USE AND THEY'RE GETTING A GOOD VALUE FOR THEIR TAX DOLLARS. 
          AND SO, MAYOR, UM, BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO DEBT, UH, DEBT NEXT, AND, AND, UH, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR, UH, KEITH AND KENT ARE HERE TO DO THAT AS WELL. 
          COUNCILWOMAN JUSTICE. 
          UH, THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UM, I'M CURIOUS IF WE HAVE ANY DATA, AND WE DON'T HAVE IT TONIGHT, BUT TOMORROW, IF WHAT SOME OF OUR, UM, COMPARATOR CITIES DO IN THIS REALM MM-HMM. 
          , UM, UM, I DON'T DISAGREE. 
          I THINK THAT WHAT YOU'VE ILLUSTRATED TONIGHT IS REALLY POWERFUL, UM, ABOUT THE IMPACT ON CITY SERVICE IF WE WERE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS. 
          AND I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU. 
          I, I'VE BEEN ONE OF THE DRIVERS OF ASKING YOU TO DO THIS COMPARISON, UM, BECAUSE IT'S ONE OF THE NUMBER ONE QUESTIONS I GET FROM SENIORS. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, A RANDOM ONE-OFF EMAIL FROM SOMEONE OR, OR SOMEONE YOU SEE AT AN EVENT. 
          THIS IS THE NUMBER ONE CONCERN OF SOMEONE WHO'S LIVING ON A FIXED INCOME. 
          UM, SO I APPRECIATE BEING ABLE TO ACTUALLY PUT NUMBERS BEHIND IT VERSUS JUST SORT OF SAYING, WE'VE LOOKED AT IT AND WE THINK THIS IS THE BEST, UM, WAY TO GO ABOUT IT. 
          SO I REALLY WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK THAT WENT INTO DOING THIS. 
          UM, 'CAUSE I THINK IT WILL REALLY HELP COUNSEL WHEN TALKING TO SENIORS ABOUT WHAT THAT IMPACT IS. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, OVERALL, UM, FOR THE CITY, YOU KNOW, IT MEANS THAT WE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE CAN'T RECRUIT FOR FIRE. 
          IT MEANS THAT WE CAN'T HAVE TWICE A WEEK TRASH PICKUP. 
          IT MEANS THAT WE CAN'T RENOVATE THE LIBRARY. 
          I MEAN, THERE ARE REALLY TANGIBLE, UM, OUTCOMES HERE, UH, IF WE WERE TO, TO CHANGE THE WAY THAT WE DO THIS. 
          AND SO, UM, I JUST, I REALLY WANNA SAY THANK YOU. 
          I, I THINK THIS IS, UM, A REALLY GREAT TOOL FOR THE COUNCIL TO HAVE AND FOR THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND, UM, AND WONDERING WHY WE DO IT THE WAY THAT WE DO IT. 
          AND, BUT AGAIN, THAT SAID, I WOULD BE CURIOUS IF THERE ARE OTHER CITY. 
          I MEAN, IS PLANO GIVEN A 1% HOME SET? I MEAN, LIKE, MAYBE WE , LIKE, DO WE WANNA DO THAT? THAT SEEMS LIKE THE, THE LEAST IMPACTFUL, BUT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT, AGAIN, $28 OR WHATEVER IT IS, IS GONNA REALLY MATTER TO THE, TO THE AVERAGE, UH, RESIDENT IN RICHARDSON. 
          BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S, THAT'S ALL. 
          I MEAN, I'M, I'M, UH, I THINK IT'S JUST REALLY POWERFUL TO SEE, UM, THESE COMPARATORS, UH, FOR US AND FOR THE PUBLIC. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR THE WORK. 
          THANK YOU, MR. DORIAN. 
          YES. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          I, UM, I, I HAVE TO AGREE THAT I THINK THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE DO LIKE HAVING THE SERVICES AND APPRECIATE LIVING IN A COMMUNITY THAT ALLOWS US TO HAVE SERVICES. 
          BUT JUST SO I CAN SAY IT, FOR WHOEVER'S LISTENING, IN THE EVENT THAT WE DID NOT MOVE THAT DIRECTION, WOULD THERE BE ANY OFFSET FUNDING UTILIZED FROM ANY OTHER BUDGET OR, UH, TO CONTINUE WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN THE SERVICES THAT WE 
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CURRENTLY PROVIDE? RIGHT? SO IF, IF, YOU KNOW, LET'S JUST ASSUME THAT THE PLAN THAT'S PRESENTED TONIGHT WOULD GO FORWARD. 
          IF ANY OF THESE ADDITIONAL MEASURES WERE IMPLEMENTED, THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO EITHER THE PEOPLE SECTION, THE INFRASTRUCTURE SECTION, OR THE PUBLIC SAFETY SECTION AND CUT SOMETHING. 
          IT'S, IT'S GONNA, IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE A BALANCING ACT. 
          MEAN IF THE REVENUE, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, RIGHT NOW IT'S, IT'S BALANCED. 
          IF THE REVENUE GOES DOWN FOR ANY REASON, UM, THEN THE EXPENDITURES WILL NEED TO GO DOWN AS WELL. 
          AND SO IT'S JUST A MATTER OF, UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I, I COULD JUST, I, I THINK VALUE PROPOSITION IS THE BEST THING TO CALL IT. 
          IT'S, UM, IT'S IF, IF FOR, FOR THE, THE INDIVIDUAL SAVINGS, IT'S ALWAYS THE QUESTION ON THE TAX RATE IN PAST YEARS AS WELL, WHEN WE'VE HAD THE CHANCE TO DO IT. 
          IT'S IS, IS THE INDIVIDUAL SAVINGS MEANINGFUL ENOUGH TO TAKE AWAY THE COLLECTIVE BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY FOR WHAT, YOU KNOW, THOSE THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT TOTAL REVENUE COULD BE USED FOR. 
          AND SO IT'S, UH, THERE'S NOT, IN MY OPINION, THERE'S NOT A WRONG ANSWER. 
          IT'S, IT'S REALLY A VALUE PROPOSITION FOR THE COMMUNITY. 
          NO, AND I, I AGREE. 
          AND I JUST, I WANT TO JUST BRING IT, I JUST WANT TO PUT IT OUT THERE FOR THE RECORD, JUST SO EVERYONE KNOWS THAT WE ARE THINKING ABOUT THOSE ISSUES. 
          AGAIN, I THINK IT'S INVALUABLE. 
          UM, IT'S NOT A HUGE INCREASE TO REALLY, YOU KNOW, MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE, BUT IT DOES ALLOW THE, ALLOW EVERYONE TO HAVE THE BENEFITS AND, UH, CONTINUE ON WITH THE SERVICES THAT WE'VE BECOME REALLY ACCUSTOMED TO. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          I APPRECIATE IT. 
          YES, SIR. 
          MAYOR PROTI. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. 
          WELL, THANKS FOR YOUR PRESENTATION AND BRINGING ALL THIS INFORMATION. 
          AGAIN, I KNOW I HAVE SEEN SOME INFORMATION IN THE PAST BY PREVIOUS, UH, PRIOR CITY COUNCIL. 
          YOU KNOW, PEOPLE LOVE STABILITY. 
          THEY LIKE TO SEE THAT THINGS ARE STABLE. 
          NOBODY LIKE TO SEE THE BOARDS ARE ROCKING WHEN YOU ARE RIDING. 
          IT MAY BE FUN FROM WATCHING OUTSIDE, BUT WHEN SOMEONE IS RIDING, THEY LIKE TO SEE IT'S STABLE. 
          SO THIS BUDGET, YOU KNOW, THE SYSTEM HAS BEEN BUILT ON FOR MANY YEARS AND THAT'S HOW IT'S MOVING ON. 
          AND SOME OTHER CITY, THEY'RE DOING THINGS DIFFERENTLY. 
          AND THAT SYSTEM IS BUILT ON THOSE THINGS. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, WITH OUR CONDITION, I THINK WE NEED TO FIND A NEW REVENUE TO REPAIR, FIX OUR OLD STREET, UH, WATERLINE SEWER LINE, UH, YOU KNOW, WATER LEAK. 
          I KNOW THAT IS ONE THING, BUT SEWER LEAK ALSO, WE ARE PAYING LOTS OF, YOU KNOW, LOSING LOTS OF MONEY. 
          SO FOR ME AND FOR EVERYONE ELSE, I THINK FOCUS IS REALLY NEED TO GET THIS THING UPDATED. 
          UH, SO, YOU KNOW, LIKE WITHOUT HAVING NEW REVENUE SOURCE, I DON'T SEE HOW WE CAN CUT THE, UH, GIVE ALL THIS OTHER THING THAT I WISH WE COULD CUT THE TAX, YOU KNOW, I, I'M FOR CUTTING ALL THE TAX ALL THE TIME, ZERO TAX IF IT WAS POSSIBLE. 
          BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME, YOU KNOW, UH, THING THAT WE CAN PAY FOR ALL THESE THINGS. 
          I DON'T THINK ANYONE CAN SACRIFICE, BECAUSE THEN WE ARE NOT GONNA HAVE EVEN, EVEN, YOU KNOW, ROAD IF WE DON'T FIX THAT NOW. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA BE LOSING OUR BUSINESS, THEN RESIDENTS ARE GONNA LOSE. 
          WE'RE GONNA LOSE THEM. 
          SO IT'S A TOUGH SITUATION, BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THANKS FOR BRINGING ALL THIS INFORMATION AGAIN. 
          THANK YOU MR. BARRIOS. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. 
          DON, UM, THE SENIOR, THE CITY SENIOR EXEMPTION POLICY. 
          IS THAT AUTOMATIC OR DOES THE SENIOR HAVE TO APPLY FOR THAT? FILL THAT OUT? THEY APPLY, YEAH, IF APPLY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO MY, UM, I MEAN, I, I THINK THE, THE HISTORY OF OUR CITY SHOWS, IT'S, IT'S WORKED FOR US. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, I SEE NO REASON WHY IT WOULDN'T CONTINUE TO WORK FOR US. 
          MY CONCERN IS, AS YOU KNOW, THINGS CHANGE AT THE STATE LEVEL AS WE SAW WE'RE, WE'VE SEEN THIS SESSION AND AS WE, SOME THINGS ARE STILL LEFT TO BE SEEN, UM, NOT KNOWING WHAT NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET WILL BE, OR TWO, THREE YEARS FROM NOW, BASED ON SOME OF THOSE DECISIONS AND HOW MAYBE OUR HANDS ARE GONNA BE TIED IN DIFFERENT WAYS. 
          UM, MY CONCERN MOVING FORWARD, AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S SOMETHING YOU'VE CONSIDERED OR SOMETHING WE NEED TO START THE CONVERSATION NOW, KIND OF LOOK, IS IF IT'S A PROGRAM THAT WE NEED TO HAVE PEOPLE APPLY FOR, UM, AND KNOWING THE CONTINUED, I GUESS, EXTREMES OF, UH, FINANCIAL ABILITIES OF OUR RESIDENTS, UM, IS IT BETTER USED IF WE CONCENTRATE OUR EFFORTS TO THOSE THAT NEED IT THE MOST? THERE ARE PEOPLE IN OUR, IN OUR CITY WHO, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY YOU NEED TO HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF KNOW-HOW TO APPLY FOR THIS VERSUS IT BE THE BLANKETED POLICY. 
          UM, WHENEVER YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT REQUIRES THAT EXTRA EFFORT, YOU TEND TO HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE MORE IN THE KNOW OR MIGHT HAVE, UH, MORE ABILITY. 
          THAT'S USUALLY 
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TIED TO, UH, FINANCIAL ABILITY AS WELL. 
          SO I'M WONDERING, YOU KNOW, MOVING FORWARD, LIKE WOULD IT JUST MAKE MORE SENSE TO SAY, OKAY, THERE'S A THRESHOLD THAT IF YOU, YOU KNOW, MAYBE LOOKING AT IS 65 THE RIGHT AGE, OR ARE PEOPLE RETIRING NOT 70 AND 73, AND MAYBE THAT'S DIFFERENT AGE, OR, UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE UNDER CERTAIN INCOME THAT IT MIGHT, OUR EFFORTS MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE, IT MIGHT ALLOW US SOME FLEXIBILITY ON THAT, BUT I ALSO, THOSE WHO TRULY NEED IT DO RECEIVE THAT EXTRA. 
          'CAUSE THE LAST THING I KNOW IS I, YOU KNOW, I KNOW I HAVE SEVERAL SENIOR NEIGHBORS. 
          MOST OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD IS, IS SENIOR AND ORIGINAL OWNERS OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          NO, IT'S A VERY GOOD POINT. 
          ONE, LET ME HAVE, I KNOW SOME OF THEM, SOME OF THEM DON'T LET ME HAVE KEN OR KEITH RESPOND TO THAT. 
          I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR ABILITY TO CUSTOMIZE IN THAT WAY IS GONNA BE LIMITED BY STATE STATUTE. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          YEAH. 
          FOR A POLICY LIKE THIS, IT HAS TO BE A BLANKET POLICY, UH, OPEN TO EVERYBODY. 
          NOW, I DO WANNA MAKE A ONE CLARIFICATION AS FAR AS APPLICATION IS LIKE, UH, DALLAS CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT HAS TOLD US, FOR INSTANCE, THAT IF YOU GO DOWN THERE AND PROTESTED YOUR VALUES, MAYBE WHEN YOU'RE IN YOUR FORTIES OR FIFTIES, AND AT SOME POINT YOU HAVE GIVEN THEM A COPY OF YOUR DRIVER'S LICENSE OR PROOF OF BIRTH SO THAT THEY KNOW HOW OLD YOU ARE WHEN YOU TURN 65, THEY'LL GO AHEAD AND APPLY THAT EXEMPTION WHETHER YOU MAKE THE FORMAL APPLICATION OR NOT. 
          UH, THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE TO APPLY ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE NEVER HAD ANY KIND OF INTERACTION, UH, WITH THE APPRAISAL DISTRICTS. 
          AND, UH, WE DO, UH, RUN SOME EDUCATIONAL, UH, INFORMATION. 
          UH, CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, THE, THE SENIOR CENTER MAKES THAT INFORMATION AVAILABLE. 
          AND WE'LL PUBLISH AN ARTICLE A COUPLE TIMES A YEAR IN, UH, RICHARDSON TODAY. 
          WE CAN REVIEW, UH, THROUGH THOSE KINDS OF CHANNELS, REMINDING PEOPLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT AND THE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES WE PROVIDE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO TO CLARIFY, MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, KEITH, UH, AND THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION. 
          THE, THIS IS, THE APPLICATION IS HANDLED AT THE COUNTY LEVEL, NOT AT THE CITY LEVEL. 
          PERFECT. 
          THE, THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT, UH, ADMINISTERS THAT THAT'S CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          NOW, AND THAT'S FOR THE CITY'S SENIOR EXEMPTION. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO WE TAKE THAT DATA. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UM, AND YOU MENTIONED THAT WE NEED TO KIND OF, THE, THE POLICY WE NEED TO APPLY TO EVERYBODY EQUALLY, AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF STATE STATUTE? THAT'S, THAT'S CORRECT. 
          UH, THE STATE LAW DOESN'T HAVE ANY TIERED SYSTEM THAT WOULD ALLOW YOU TO TREAT FOLKS DIFFERENTLY. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          APPRECIATE IT. 
          HEY, KEITH, WHILE YOU'RE ON THAT TOPIC, IF YOU ARE A HOMEOWNER, GOING BACK TO THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION THROUGH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, ONCE YOU APPLY FOR THAT, YOU WOULD AUTOMATICALLY BE REGISTERED FOR THE 65 AND OVER, CORRECT? UH, THAT'S CORRECT BECAUSE, UH, UH, THEY ADMINISTER, UH, ALL OF THE EXEMPTIONS AT, SO IT'S A, IT'S A ONE SHOP DOES ALL, YOU JUST GO IN AND DO IT. 
          I THINK AS OLD PEOPLE KNOW THAT . 
          GOOD. 
          WELL, THANK, THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANKS, KEITH. 
          THE LAST, UH, SECTION TONIGHT IS JUST OUR DEBT PLAN. 
          UM, YOU ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE COMPONENTS OF THIS DEBT PLAN. 
          IF YOU LOOK AT THE LAST BULLET HERE, AND YOU LOOK AT THESE TOPICS, THESE ARE ALL THE DEBT, UH, THE DEEP DIVES THAT, UH, YOU WERE, UH, UM, UM, PROVIDED, UH, LEADING UP TO TONIGHT. 
          UH, JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR, UM, OUR DEBT PLANNING, UH, UM, MODELING. 
          SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, KEITH AND KEN HAVE ASSESSED, AND SAME, NOT VERY LIKELY THAT WE WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ANY KIND OF A REFUNDING TRANSACTION, UM, THIS TIME. 
          BUT IT WILL BE EVALUATED. 
          IT'S PART OF YOUR, UH, THAT'S PART OF OUR TACTICS. 
          UH, SO WE DO THAT EVERY YEAR AS WE GO ABOUT THE DEBT PLANNING. 
          WE CONTINUE TO USE THIS CONSERVATIVE INTEREST RATE, UM, 4 7, 5 TO FIVE FIVE. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT, IN OUR MODELING, WE ANTICIPATE BEING CHARGED EVEN LAST YEAR WITH THE HIGHER INTEREST RATES. 
          YOU CAN SEE HERE WE WERE WELL BELOW THAT, UM, LARGELY IN PART DUE OUR AAA BOND RATING. 
          UM, WE ASSUME NO GROWTH, NO GROWTH IN APPRAISED VALUES BEYOND, UH, UH, UH, A FISCAL YEAR 2028. 
          UM, SO THAT'S USUALLY, UH, SOMETHING VERY MODEST, LIKE MAYBE ONE OR TWO, AND ONE, ONE THEN ZEROS. 
          AND SO, UH, VERY, VERY CONSERVATIVE. 
          AND THEN, UH, YOU CAN SEE HERE THE $3 MILLION THAT WE ADDED FOR THE LIBRARY IS INCLUDED. 
          AND THEN THE 21 BOND PROGRAM THAT WE TALKED ABOUT PREVIOUSLY, THESE ARE THE DIFFERENT ELEMENTS TOTALING UP TO 88 POINT, UH, 4, 4, 8, UH, FIVE, UH, MILLION DOLLARS. 
          UM, AND, UH, SO THAT'LL BE PART OF, UM, AGAIN, PART OF THE, UM, THE BUDGET PROCESS HERE. 
          JUST NOW TO WRAP UP HERE WITH SOME FINAL THOUGHTS. 
          AND THEN AGAIN, UM, I, I'M NOT GONNA GO THROUGH THIS IN, IN WORD FOR WORD HERE. 
          I'M GONNA SUMMARIZE HERE AT THIS RATE, WE DON'T ANTICIPATE A CHANGE, UH, IN THE CURRENT TAX RATE. 
          HOWEVER, UM, STANDBY BECAUSE WHEN, ONCE WE GET THE FINAL CERTIFICATE, UH, CERTIFIED VALUES, AND WE DO, UH, KEITH AND KENT DO WHAT THEY DO, UM, WE'LL 
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HAVE SOME MORE INFORMATION ON THAT. 
          COULD, THIS COULD, THIS COULD GO A LOT OF WAYS. 
          THIS COULD PROVIDE THE ADDITIONAL CAPACITY THAT WE NEED TO MAYBE MANAGE THE 6% WITHOUT TOUCHING ANYTHING. 
          UM, THERE'S A LOT OF VARIATIONS TO COME. 
          UH, YOU CAN SEE THE PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTION THAT WE SPOKE OF THERE. 
          UH, THE PROJECTED INCREASE IN PROPERTY VALUES THAT, UH, BOB EXPLAINED THE SALES TAX ASSUMPTION. 
          UH, RIGHT NOW, THE 5% MARKET, 5% PUBLIC SAFETY STEPS, UM, UH, YOU CAN SEE THE IMPORTANTLY THE MINIMUM, UH, INCREASE IN, UM, THE, UM, THE LIVING WAGE THERE. 
          UM, AND THAT ACTUALLY THAT'LL GO UP TO 1871, LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT THERE. 
          UM, SIX NEW FIREFIGHTERS, UM, FOR THE OVERTIME REDUCTION, THE THREE FIREFIGHTERS FOR, UH, THE BLOCKING, UM, ALL OF THE DIFFERENT INFRASTRUCTURE, THE HOME IMPROVEMENT INCENTIVE PROGRAM. 
          UM, AND THEN THE, UH, 3.29, UH, 3.92 MILLION FOR THE PAY AS YOU GO FOR, UM, OUR, UM, OUR, OUR FLEET AND OTHER, UM, APPARATUS AND, UH, THE IT REPLACEMENT FUND. 
          UM, AND UM, THEN THE 1.85 FOR THE IT AND THE TRAFFIC, UM, UPGRADED MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS. THAT'S THAT ONE THAT, THAT MULTI-YEAR PROGRAM, UH, THAT, UH, WE'LL EVENTUALLY ROLL OFF OF AND THEN THE 90 DAY FUND BALANCE. 
          AND SO, UM, AWFUL LOT THERE SUMMARIZED, BUT I KNOW WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS TONIGHT IN GREAT DETAIL. 
          UH, THAT'S KIND OF A SNAPSHOT. 
          WHAT WE HAVE TO LOOK FORWARD TO TOMORROW IS, UM, WE HAVE SOME HOMEWORK TONIGHT THAT WE WILL COME BACK TO TOMORROW. 
          I HOPE THAT WE CAN GET EVERYBODY'S, UM, UH, ANSWERS IN FULL. 
          IF NOT, WE'LL DO OUR VERY BEST AND REPORT BACK WHAT WE HAVE AND THEN WE'LL GO FROM THERE. 
          UM, WE WILL DO A OVERVIEW OF, UH, THE WATER AND SEWER FUND, THE DRAINAGE FUND, SIDEWAYS GOLF AND HOTEL MOTEL. 
          UM, BOB WILL RECAP THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, UM, ABOUT THE TAX RATE. 
          UM, TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT INCREMENT THAT I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY FROM PRIOR YEARS AND HOW THAT COULD BE A, UH, PIECE TO THE PUZZLE, UM, TO SOLVE, UM, UH, SOME OF THE, UM, TO BE PART OF SOME OF THE DIRECTION THAT YOU, YOU PROVIDED US TONIGHT. 
          SO MAYOR, UM, THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU COUNSEL FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO, UH, ACCEPT ANY ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK YOU HAVE, UM, ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. 
          MR. HUTCHEN, RIDER, DON, JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION THAT HIT ME AS YOU WERE GOING THROUGH THIS FINAL RECAP ON THE BLOCKER. 
          YES, SIR. 
          WHAT, WHAT, I UNDERSTAND THE PERSONNEL AND FULLY SUPPORT THAT, BUT WHAT ARE WE GONNA ACTUALLY USE? 'CAUSE I KNOW, I KNOW AT THE, UM, PRESENTATION BY THE, UM, WHEN WE WERE TALKING THROUGH, UM, 75 MM-HMM. 
          , THE GENTLEMAN WAS THERE AND I FORGOT HIS NAME, I'M SORRY. 
          TALKED ABOUT POTENTIALLY BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT. 
          YEAH, I THINK HE CALLED IT A SPIDER IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY. 
          YEAH. 
          SO WOULD WE LOOK TO EMPLOY THAT? ARE WE LOOKING TO USE A RESERVE FIREFIGHTER TR UH, UH, UM, ENGINE? A RESERVE ENGINE? YES, SIR. 
          IT'S GONNA BE A RESERVE ENGINE. 
          THE THE SPIDER IS, UH, SPIDER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEAH, THE SPIDER IS EFFECTIVE, UH, FOR ONLY, UH, HEAD-ON DIRECT IMPACT. 
          AND SO WHERE YOU'LL SEE THE SPIDER USED BY TEXTILE A LOT IS WHEN THEY HAVE LANES CLOSED. 
          AND THE, THE FIRST LANE THAT'S OPEN, IF THERE'S SOME STAGING TAKING PLACE, IF, IF, IF YOU'RE, IF IT'S A DIRECT IMPACT, IT'S VERY EFFECTIVE IF THIS, IF WHAT WE ARE USUALLY DOING IS BLOCKING AT LEAST TWO, IF NOT THREE LANES. 
          AND SO IF YOU PARK IT, IF YOU, IF YOU PARK A SPIDER ON AN ANGLE LIKE THAT AND SOMEBODY COMES INTO THE SIDE OF THE SPIDER, IT'S NOT EFFECTIVE AT ALL. 
          AND SO, UM, CHIEF VY AND CHIEF TITTLE HAVE KIND OF REVIEWED THAT. 
          UM, I'LL, I'LL SHARE WITH YOU. 
          I, I HEARD ALL THE WAY FROM HIS OFFICE ACROSS WHEN, WHEN MR. MORRIS SAID THAT THE SPIDER WAS DESIRABLE, I HEARD CHIEF VY GASP ALL THE WAY FROM THERE. 
          'CAUSE , WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS A LOT AND HE FEELS VERY STRONGLY THE ENGINES ARE, THE ENGINES ARE VERY EFFECTIVE, UM, VERY EFFECTIVE BLOCKERS. 
          AND, UH, WE'VE, WE'VE HAD, UH, TWO I THINK NOW THAT HAVE BEEN, UH, HIT ON 75 AND UM, YOU KNOW, ONE, ONE WAS DID SOME PRETTY GOOD DAMAGE THE OTHER, UH, WAS ABLE TO BE REPAIRED. 
          AND I THINK THEY'RE WORKING ON GETTING IT BACK IN THE SERVICE IF I'M, IF I'M RIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, SO I GUESS THAT, THAT'S KIND OF THE FOLLOW UP QUESTION BECAUSE I BELIEVE IT WAS IRVING, AND YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG ON THAT, BUT I THINK IRVING WAS ONE OF THE FIRST FIRE SERVICES TO USE A BLOCKER AND THEY ACTUALLY TOOK AN ENGINE, I BELIEVE, FILLED IT WITH CONCRETE. 
          YEAH. 
          PUT A TREMENDOUS NUMBER OF ADDITIONAL LIGHTS ON IT, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. 
          WOULD, WOULD WE CONSIDER DOING THAT OR ARE WE JUST LOOKING AT, WE ARE JUST KEEPING IT, KEEPING THE RESERVE ENGINE AND JUST UTILIZING IT THAT ? NO, THEY, THEY DEFINITELY WANNA PUT SOME ADDITIONAL REFLECTIVE, UH, MARKINGS ON IT AND UM, ACTUALLY WHAT CHIEF VY IS LEANING TOWARDS, IT'S MORE OF A GEL THAT THEY USE THAN A CONCRETE 'CAUSE IT'S, IT'S HEAVIER, BUT IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO WORK WITH. 
          AND SO, UH, BUT THEY DO, THEY DO DEFINITELY WEIGH IT DOWN MORE. 
          SO SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE, IT'S BECAUSE IT'S A LOT LIGHTER WHEN THEY TAKE ALL THE EQUIPMENT OFF OF IT, I'M SURE  THAN TRADITIONAL. 
          AND SO THEY DO WEIGH IT DOWN SOME MORE WITH LIKE A GEL PRODUCT. 
          UH, OKAY. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY MORE COMMENTS, CURTIS? YES. 
          UM, I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS FOR THE RECORD, FOR ANYBODY THAT STILL MAY BE WATCHING OR LISTENING ON THE, THE, UM, FUNDING, THE HOME IMPROVEMENT INCENTIVE PROGRAM, 
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UM, THAT HAS AN INCREASE ON THERE. 
          I'M JUST WONDERING, YOU KNOW, IF YOU COULD JUST EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE BIT SO ANYONE THAT IS LISTENING CAN UNDERSTAND HOW THAT PROGRAM IT WORKS AND, AND AGAIN, HOW INVALUABLE THAT'S THAT PROGRAM IS. 
          SURE. 
          SO, UM, THE PROGRAM IS, UH, DESIGNED TO INCENT, UM, EITHER ON, ON AN EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY LOT, UH, EITHER SIGNIFICANT REINVESTMENT OR IN, IN MANY CASES NOW, UH, IT'S A NEW SINGLE FAMILY HOME, BUT IT HA IT'S ONLY APPLICABLE TO LOTS THAT HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED PREVIOUSLY. 
          SO IT'S NOT ON, ON, EVEN ON INFILL OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          IT'S NOT APP. 
          BUT WHAT, ESSENTIALLY WHAT HAPPENS IS, UM, WE LOOK AT THE APPRAISED VALUE BEFORE THE PROJECT AND THEN WE LOOKED AT THE APPRAISED VALUE OF THE HOME AFTER THE PROJECT AND WHATEVER THE INCREASE IN CITY TAXES ARE, UM, BETWEEN THAT TIME OF PERIOD WE ASSUME IS RELATED TO THE INVESTMENT. 
          AND THEN WE REBATE THOSE CITY TAXES. 
          UH, SO LET'S SAY THE INCREASE IN CITY TAXES IN YEAR ONE WAS, UH, A HUNDRED DOLLARS. 
          WE IN, WE REBATE THOSE CITY TAXES FOR 10 YEARS AND WE UPFRONT AND WE LO WE, UH, LOAD IT UP FRONT. 
          SO THAT PERSON WOULD GET A THOUSAND DOLLARS CHECK FOR A HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR 10 YEARS, BUT THEY WOULD GET IT IN THAT FIRST YEAR, THE APRIL OF THAT FIRST YEAR. 
          AND SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING THERE, THE HOME IMPROVEMENT INCENTIVE PROGRAM FLUCTUATES A GREAT DEAL. 
          IT ALL HAS TO DO WITH HOW MANY PROJECTS COME IN IN ANY GIVEN YEAR AND THEN HOW QUICKLY THOSE PROJECTS ARE COMPLETED AND THEN KIND OF GETTING IN THE QUEUE TO BE PAID. 
          SO THAT'S WHERE, THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THE FLUCTUATION. 
          SO THE PROJECT GETS FUNDED, UH, IS IT APRIL WHEN CHECKS GO OUT, UH, FOR THAT? IT IS. 
          SO THE CITY TAXES ARE PAID GENERALLY IN, IN JANUARY. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , AND THEN WE TAKE ABOUT 90 DAYS TO, TO ISSUE THE REBATE. 
          SO IF A PROJECT IS FINISHED BY, LET'S SAY APRIL OR MAY, IT MAY GET FUNDED THAT FOLLOWING YEAR. 
          IF IT IS LATER, IT COULD POSSIBLY GET FUNDED THE FOLLOWING YEAR. 
          IT'S GENERALLY, IT'S A LOT OF TIMES IT'S UP TO THE HOMEOWNER IF THE FULL INCREASED VALUE HAS NOT BEEN DOCUMENTED BY THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT, 'CAUSE THE PROJECT WASN'T COMPLETED, YOU COULD WAIT TO THE FOLLOWING YEAR, BUT THEN YOU'RE GONNA WAIT ONE MORE YEAR FOR THE CHECK TOO. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU DON. 
          APPRECIATE IT. 
          WHAT'S THE MINIMAL INVESTMENT? $20,000. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, COUNSEL, ANY MORE COMMENTS? STATEMENTS? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          GOOD WORK TONIGHT AT THIS TIME. 
          THE CITY COUNCIL WILL RECESS THIS MEETING AT 9:06 PM WE WILL RECONVENE TOMORROW, TUESDAY, JULY 25TH AT 6:00 PM THANK YOU.
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