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AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING OF THE RICHARDSON CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER AT 6:00 PM AND I'D LIKE TO ASK COUNCIL MEMBER KEN HUTCHIN RIDER TO LEAD US IN THE INVOCATION AND THE PLEDGE.
IF YOU JOIN ME IN PRAYER, PLEASE.
DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER, THANK YOU FOR THIS BEAUTIFUL DAY.
AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO COME TOGETHER AS THE COUNCIL OF RICHARDSON TO DEBIL, TO DELIBERATE AND DO GOOD WORKS TO CONTINUE TO MOVE OUR CITY FORWARD.
LORD, I ASK FOR TWO SPECIAL PRAYERS TONIGHT.
NUMBER ONE, FOR PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST.
I PRAY FOR THE END OF THE CONFLICT AND THE TRUE DEATH AND DISMEMBERMENT THAT'S OCCURRING IN THE MIDDLE EAST, AND THAT WE HAVE A SPEEDY AND, UH, SPEEDY CONCLUSION TO THAT.
ADDITIONALLY, I WOULD ASK FOR PRAYERS FOR OUR MAYOR, BOB DUBY AND HIS FAMILY, THAT PEACE MAY BE BROUGHT TO THEIR HOME AS WELL IN THESE THINGS, I PRAY TO OUR LORD.
YOU JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE, PLEASE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL, AND THE TEXAS FLAG.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.
THIS TIME WE'LL GO TO ITEM THREE MINUTES OF THE SEPTEMBER 25TH, 20, UH, 2023 AND OCTOBER 2ND, 2023 MEETINGS.
I'D LIKE TO CALL FOR A MOTION TO HAVE THESE MINUTES APPROVED MS. JUSTICE, MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND, MR. I'LL SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR? SHOW OUR HANDS PLEASE.
OKAY, WE'LL GO TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, VISITORS AND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS.
MR. MAGNER, UH, THANK YOU, MAYOR.
WE'RE NOT IN RECEIPT OF ANY CARDS IN ADVANCE OF THE 5:00 PM DEADLINE, AND ALL OF THE SPEAKERS THAT HAVE SIGNED UP ARE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING.
[5. PRESENTATION OF PROCLAMATION FOR NATIONAL CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER MONTH]
ITEM NUMBER FIVE, PRESENTATION OF A PROCLAMATION FOR THE NATIONAL CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER MONTH.UM, OUR CODE, UH, COMMUNITY SERVICE ADMINISTRATOR, LINDSEY TURMAN, IS GONNA, UH, UH, UH, GO TO THE PODIUM AND DO A, A QUICK, A BRIEF, UH, PRESENTATION.
BUT, UM, OBVIOUSLY THIS IS A TOPIC THAT'S NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART.
I'M EXTREMELY, UH, PLEASED THAT LINDSAY AND HER TEAM WERE ABLE TO JOIN US TONIGHT.
UH, YOU KNOW, THE FOUNDATION OF RICHARDSON IS BUILT ON NEIGHBORHOODS AND, UH, WHAT, WHAT THESE MEN AND WOMEN DO EVERY DAY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS TO ENSURE THE INTEGRITY AND, AND, UH, VITALITY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, AND THAT THEY'LL CONTINUE TO BE AN AWESOME ASSET TO OUR COMMUNITY.
UH, IS A, IS A DIFFICULT AND OFTEN AND THANKLESS JOB.
AND SO THE OPPORTUNITY, LINDSAY, FOR YOU AND YOUR TEAM TO BE HERE TONIGHT SO WE CAN SHOW YOU SOME APPRECIATION AND GRATITUDE FOR WHAT YOU DO EACH AND EVERY DAY IS OUR HONOR.
MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALLOWING US TO BE HERE TONIGHT.
I JUST WANNA SORT OF SECOND AND REITERATE WHAT DAWN SAID.
BEING A CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER IS OFTEN A VERY THANKLESS JOB, BUT OUR COMMUNITY WOULD NOT BE OUR COMMUNITY WITHOUT THE JOBS THAT THEY DO EVERY DAY.
UH, I'M PERSONALLY VERY APPRECIATIVE TO WORK WITH THEM.
THEY'RE JUST A GREAT GENERALLY GROUP OF PEOPLE.
SO EVERY OCTOBER IS ACTUALLY DECLARED NATIONAL CODE ENFORCEMENT APPRECIATION MONTH BY OUR PROFESSIONAL ASSOCIATION, THE AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF CODE ENFORCEMENT, AND THEY CELEBRATE THAT AT THEIR ANNUAL CONFERENCE, WHICH THEY HAVE EVERY OCTOBER.
THE MISSION OF THE AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF CODE ENFORCEMENT IS TO EDUCATE, ELEVATE, AND IMPROVE THE PROFESSION OF CODE ENFORCEMENT.
THIS ORGANIZATION WAS ESTABLISHED IN 1988 BY FIVE DIFFERENT STATES, BUT AT THIS POINT, THEY HAVE SOMEONE, A REPRESENTATIVE FROM ALL 50 STATES, THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA AND CANADA.
IT'S GROWING EXPONENTIALLY AS A NEED FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT IN ALL COMMUNITIES GROWS THROUGHOUT THIS COUNTRY AND OTHER COUNTRIES.
IT'S THE ONLY PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATION WE HAVE SPECIFICALLY FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT THAT DOESN'T ALSO SORT OF ENCOMPASS THINGS LIKE BUILDING INSPECTION.
AND WE DO A LOT OF OUR TRAINING CERTIFICATIONS AND EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES THROUGH ACE.
SO WHY IS CODE ENFORCEMENT IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY IN THIS COMMUNITY? IT PLAYS A CRUCIAL ROLE IN MAINTAINING THE SAFETY, VITALITY, AND QUALITY OF LIFE IN THIS COMMUNITY AND IN OTHERS.
WE CREATE AN INVITING ENVIRONMENT FOR RESIDENTS AND VISITORS BY ADDRESSING MINIMUM PROPERTY STANDARDS AND NUISANCE ISSUES LIKE OVERGROWN VEGETATION AND TRASH AND STRONG IN CODE ENFORCEMENT PROGRAMMING CAN PROTECT PROPERTY VALUES BY ENSURING THAT PROPERTIES
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ARE WELL-MAINTAINED.OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS OFTEN PLAY A SIGNIFICANT ROLE IN DEVELOPING HOUSE CITIZENS VIEW LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
OFTENTIMES THE ONLY COMMUNICATION THEY HAVE WITH A CITY OFFICIAL IS THEIR COMMUNICATIONS AND INTERACTIONS WITH OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, WHICH I ALWAYS GET POSITIVE FEEDBACK ABOUT.
A PROACTIVE CODE ENFORCEMENT CAN FOSTER A SENSE OF PRIDE AND A HIGHER LEVEL ENGAGEMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AS DON MENTIONED, OUR NEIGHBORHOODS ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO THIS COMMUNITY AND OUR ORGANIZATION.
UH, WE ENCOURAGE OUR RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY AND PRIDE IN THEIR PROPERTIES.
AND EFFECTIVE CODE ENFORCEMENT POSITIVE POSITIVELY IMPACTS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS COMMUNITY.
SO OUR TEAM, WHO ARE THESE GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT ARE RIGHT HERE? WE HAVE 13 TEAM MEMBERS WHO, UH, ARE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS LICENSED BY BOTH THE STATE OF TEXAS, THE AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF CODE ENFORCEMENT, AND, UH, OUR, AGAIN, LICENSED THROUGH THE STATE OF TEXAS.
ALL OF OUR REGULAR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS DO HAVE BACHELOR'S DEGREES.
I INCLUDED SOME OF THE COLLEGES THAT SOME OF US CAME FROM ON THE RIGHT.
I DID PUT THEM IN A PARTICULAR ORDER FOR A PARTICULAR REASON,
UM, BUT OUR TEAM MEMBERS THAT ARE HERE TONIGHT, THERE ARE 11 OF THEM HERE.
THEY HAVE OVER 50 INTERNATIONAL CODE COUNCIL CERTIFICATIONS.
WE HAVE NINE THAT HAVE, UH, PROPERTY MAINTENANCE AND HOUSING INSPECTOR CERTIFICATION, SEVEN ZONING INSPECTORS, FIVE CODE ENFORCEMENT ADMINISTRATORS, AND FOUR RESIDENTIAL BUILDING INSPECTORS.
SO I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT OUR TEAM.
WELL, LINDSEY, THANK YOU FOR THE GREAT PRESENTATION AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT AWESOME TEAM OUT HERE.
COUNSEL, GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS IF YOU WOULD, MR. HUTCHIN RIDER.
JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO YOU AND YOUR TEAM, LINDSEY.
I'VE SEEN THE WORK, ESPECIALLY OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL.
UM, OTHER THAN YOUR ORDERING OF THE SCHOOLS, I THINK YOU DO A FANTASTIC JOB.
WE MAY NEED TO QUESTION THAT LATER, BUT THAT'S OKAY.
I KNOW WHY YOU DID IT, BUT IT'S OKAY.
I JUST SAID THAT TO JOE, SO, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT, I CAN'T REALLY COMPLAIN ABOUT THAT, BUT SERIOUSLY, YOU AND YOUR TEAM DO A FANTASTIC JOB, SO THANK YOU ALL VERY, VERY MUCH.
I KNOW IT IS A THANKLESS JOB, BUT WE REALLY DO APPRECIATE IT.
I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT, LINDSAY.
IT IS SOMETIMES THE ONLY INTERACTION THAT FOLKS HAVE, UM, WITH CITY GOVERNMENT, AND IT IS ALWAYS POSITIVE, UM, AND THE WORK THAT YOU DO.
WE OFTEN GET, UH, FOLKS THAT ARE UPSET ABOUT THEIR NEIGHBOR OR SOMEONE WHO'S RECEIVED A NOTICE THAT'S UPSET ABOUT THE NOTICE.
BUT I, I THINK AT, AT BOTTOM, THEY ALWAYS PROVIDE POSITIVE FEEDBACK ABOUT THEIR EXPERIENCE AND THEIR INTERACTION.
UH, AND I THINK IT'S GREAT WE HAVE, UH, LIKE MAYOR DUBY AND MYSELF, HOMEGROWN FOLKS THAT WORK ON YOUR TEAM.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S, UM, REALLY, REALLY GREAT THAT YOU FOSTER AN ENVIRONMENT AND THAT THE CITY, UM, IS A PLACE THAT FOLKS WHO GREW UP HERE ALSO WANNA WORK.
SO, UH, THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU DO.
I THINK IT ACTUALLY IS A REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT PART OF, UM, OUR CITY GOVERNMENT.
WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR DOING WHAT YOU DO FOR RESEARCHING LIKE CITY LIKE US.
UH, CODE ENFORCEMENT IS IMPORTANT SO MUCH BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE OLD CITY, THE BEST WAY TO DO IS MANAGES, LIKE, MAKE SURE THAT ALL STAYS GOOD.
SO LAST 15 YEARS THAT I KNOW YOU, YOU ARE DOING AMAZING JOB.
UH, TO TACK ONTO WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE SAID, YOU KNOW, NO MATTER WHAT COMPLAINTS WE GET FROM RESIDENTS WHO, UH, GET THE NOTICES ON THEIR DOOR, I KNOW FOR A FACT WE WOULD HAVE WAY MORE COMPLAINTS IF Y'ALL DIDN'T EXIST AT ALL.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS DO.
WHAT OTHER, I SHARE THE SAME SENTIMENT OTHER COUNSEL HAVE SHARED.
UH, I KNOW IN THE YEARS I'VE LIVED IN RICHARDSON, I THINK I'VE, I'VE BEEN THE RECIPIENT OF TWO OR THREE LETTERS OVER THE YEARS, AND EVERY TIME I'VE, UH, THEY'VE SERVED AS A REMINDER, HEY, I'VE GOTTA KEEP MY TREES ABOVE A CERTAIN HEIGHT.
AND THAT'S USUALLY, I THINK, WHAT I'VE GOT, ALWAYS GOTTEN 'EM ON.
UM, BUT IT IS A VERY IMPORTANT JOB, WHICH Y'ALL DO.
WHILE WE DON'T APPRECIATE ALWAYS GETTING THE LETTERS, IT DOES SERVE AS A FRIENDLY REMINDER.
AND I THINK ANYBODY HAS DEALT WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT, UM, WILL SAY THAT YOU'RE NOTHING BUT PROFESSIONALS.
AND THAT SPEAKS VOLUMES FOR, UH, NOT JUST YOU ALL, BUT ON BEHALF OF THE CITY, BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE THAT FACE OF THE CITY IN SO MANY INSTANCES.
SO THANK YOU FOR WHAT Y'ALL DO.
UM, I CAN IMAGINE THAT NOT EVERY INTERACTION IS POSITIVE OF WHAT Y'ALL DEAL WITH EVERY DAY, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB AND RESIDENTS DO GREATLY APPRECIATE IT.
SO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU MR. DORIAN.
THANK YOU MAYOR LINDSAY, YOU'RE INCREDIBLE.
OH,
I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY OF WORKING WITH YOU AND YOUR DEPARTMENT
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FOR SO MANY YEARS, AND IT, IT REALLY IS WITHOUT SAYING, UM, A BREATH, FRESH AIR TO KNOW THAT WE HAVE SUCH A GREAT TEAM THAT CAN COME IN AND SWEEP UP THINGS, NO PUN INTENDED, BUT IT IS NICE JUST TO HAVE THE COLLABORATION AND, AND COORDINATE, UH, THINGS THROUGH OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT.I KNOW BEING INVOLVED WITH THE H O A AND BEAUTIFICATION FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, IT WAS AN INVALUABLE ASSET TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND AND COLLABORATE WITH YOU AND YOUR DEPARTMENT.
AND I JUST, UH, I MEAN, IT'S JUST SOMETHING I, I LOOK FORWARD TO AND I'M GONNA CONTINUE WITH THAT.
SO I, UH, I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR DOING WHAT YOU DO.
IN CLOSING IT, IT'S ONLY A MONTH THAT WE GET TO CELEBRATE YOU, BUT OUR GOOD CITIZENS GET TO HAVE YOU YEAR ROUND AND THEY'RE VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE YOU.
SO WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE JOB.
ALL Y'ALL DO, AND YES, I'VE BEEN TAGGED WITH TRIM YOUR TREE BOB BEFORE.
SO LET THE CITIZENS KNOW THE MAYOR HAS BEEN TAGGED.
SO IT IS THAT Y'ALL DON'T, YOU DON'T SHOW ANY SPECIAL TREATMENTS, SO, AND IT WAS WELL DESERVED TOO.
SO, SO ANYWAY, I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT, BUT I'M VERY PROUD OF Y'ALL AND WE TRULY APPRECIATE ALL THAT Y'ALL DO.
JUST GET A PICTURE OF A PROCLAMATION.
WHAT DO YOU THINK, COUNSEL? LET'S DO THAT RIGHT TO THE MIDDLE.
WE USE THE BUDGET SYSTEM FOR DISCIPLINE.
WE GOT ABOUT TWO CODE COURT OFFICERS, COUNCIL MEMBER.
I GUESS MOST OF YOU HAVE DUAL CERTIFICATION.
THERE'S TWO THAT ARE REQUIRED FOR EVERYBODY.
OH, REALLY? AND IT'S ANOTHER ONE.
ENCOURAGED TO GET THIS WAY FOR ALL THAT, RIGHT? YEAH, YEAH.
OVERALL CERTIFIED THROUGH THE STATE AS WELL HERE.
UH, OUR ORDER OFFICERS, GO AHEAD AND COME FORWARD UP HERE PLEASE.
LET'S GET THE, DO THE BEST WE CAN.
SO ALL LOOK RIGHT, RIGHT HERE.
[6. PUBLIC HEARING, ZONING FILE 23-09, A REQUEST TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 3.4 ACRES LOCATED AT 524 AND 528 CENTENNIAL BOULEVARD, ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF CENTENNIAL BOULEVARD, WEST OF AUDELIA ROAD, FROM PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR THE O/C OFFICE/COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH MODIFIED DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR THE O/C OFFICE/COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH MODIFIED DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR A REVISED CONCEPT PLAN AND FOR APPROVAL OF A SPECIAL PERMIT FOR A CARWASH.]
ALL RIGHTY.WE'RE GONNA GO TO ITEM NUMBER SIX, PUBLIC HEARING
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ZONING FILE 23 DASH OH NINE.A REQUEST TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 3.4 ACRES.
LOCATE LOCATED AT 5 24 AND 5 28 CENTENNIAL BOULEVARD.
MR. MAGNER, UH, THANK YOU MAYOR, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
CHA UH, SAM CHAVEZ IS AT THE PODIUM TO PRESENT THE, UH, CITY'S, UH, PRESENTATION.
SUBSEQUENT TO THAT, I, I THINK THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND IS AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
UH, ONCE WE CONCLUDE THAT, UM, I WILL GO AHEAD AND ACKNOWLEDGE, UM, ABOUT, UH, 14 CARDS THAT WERE SUBMITTED PRIOR TO THE 5:00 PM DEADLINE.
AND THEN WE'LL HAVE, UH, THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF, UH, THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING AS WELL, OR THE PUBLIC INPUT PORTION OF THE HEARING.
SO, SAM, I'LL TURN IT OVER FOR YOU, UH, TO, FOR, UH, FOR THE BRIEFING.
THE APPLICANT'S REQUESTING APPROVAL TO REZONE TWO LOTS, TOTALING 3.38 ACRES FROM PD PLAN DEVELOPMENT FOR THE OC OFFICE, COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO PD PLAN DEVELOPMENT FOR THE OC OFFICE, COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, UH, DISTRICT WITH MODIFIED DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, INCLUDING A REVISED CONCEPT PLAN AND APPROVAL OF A SPECIAL PERMIT FOR A CAR WASH ON AN UNDEVELOPED TWO ACRE LOT.
THE LOTS ARE LOCATED SOUTH OF CENTENNIAL BOULEVARD, WEST OF ILEA, SOUTH OF THE KROGER FUEL CENTER ON CENTENNIAL BOULEVARD.
NOW, THIS SITE IS NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH A PREVIOUS 2000, UH, 19 ZONING REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL PERMIT FOR CAR WASH, UH, WHICH WAS DENIED BY THE PLANNING, UH, COMMISSION AND ULTIMATELY WITHDRAWN BY THE APPLICANT IN 2019.
THE SITE ITSELF IS ZONED PLAN DEVELOPMENT, PD PLAN DEVELOPMENT FOR THE OC OFFICE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, WHICH IS QUITE UNIQUE IN THE FACT THAT IT IS IN THE TOWN OF HE ZONING ORDINANCE, UH, SURROUNDING PROPERTY, UH, IS ZONED OC OFFICE COMMERCIAL AND DEVELOPED AS COMMERCIAL RETAIL AND OFFICE.
IN FRONT OF YOU IS A COMPARISON OF THE, UH, CURRENT APPROVED CONCEPT PLAN, WHICH WAS APPROVED IN 2018 WITH ORDINANCE NUMBER 42 66, WHICH ALLOWED DEVELOPMENT OF THE TWO TRACKS OR TWO LOTS AND ALLOWED A LOT WITHOUT FRONTAGE AND A FLAG LINE.
UH, EXHIBIT A IS THE PROPOSED CON, THE REVISED CONCEPT PLAN, WHICH DEPICTS THE, UH, THE REV THE REVISION TO THE, UH, PREVIOUSLY APPROVED CONCEPT PLAN TO ALLOW DEVELOPMENT OF THE EASTERN LOT FOR A CAR WASH.
THIS OF COURSE, IS THE PROPOSED CONCEPT PLAN, TRACKED ONE, WHICH IS THE WEST LOT AND IS DEVELOPED AS A CHILDCARE CENTER.
AND, UH, THIS IS A 1.3 ACRE LOT.
IT DOES HAVE A 10,000 SQUARE FOOT, UH, CHILD DAYCARE CENTER ON IT WITH 31 PARKING SPACES, UH, LANDSCAPED AT, UH, 11.9%.
THE REQUIREMENT WOULD BE 10%, SO IT'S SLIGHTLY OVER THE REQUIREMENT.
TRACK TWO IS A, IS THE PROPOSED SITE FOR THE CAR WASH.
THE PROPOSED, UH, BUILDING WOULD, UH, WOULD BE ABOUT 4,900 SQUARE FEET.
IT'S A ONE STORY STRUCTURE, FIVE PARKING SPACES.
UH, THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPE AREA IS 31.4.
UH, WITH THE, WITH THE MINIMUM REQUIRED IS, UH, 10%.
SO IT IS, SO IT'S ALMOST THREE TIMES THE AMOUNT OF LANDSCAPE OPEN SPACE.
NOW WE'RE ZOOMING, UH, TIGHTER INTO THE SITE ITSELF.
UH, AGAIN, THIS IS A TWO ACRE LOT UNDEVELOPED, AND OF COURSE, THE SUBJECT OF THE CAR WASH.
PRIMARY ACCESS IS PROVIDED VIA COMMON DRIVE AND MUTUAL ACCESS EASEMENT FROM CENTENNIAL.
YOU CAN SEE THAT IN THE, UH, SMALLER KIND OF BLOW UP AREA THERE.
THAT IS A, THAT IS A WRITE IN AND WRITE OUT ONLY, UH, BUT IT IS, UH, PROVIDED VIA A MUTUAL ACCESS EASEMENT.
AND THERE ARE MULTIPLE INTERNAL ACCESS POINTS, UH, TO THE ACTUAL SITE.
THERE IS A MEDIAN, UH, UH, THERE IS A MEDIAN, UH, EXISTING MEDIAN TO THE EAST OF THE SITE, UH, IN FRONT OF THE KROGER'S ENTRY DRIVE.
THE PROPOSED CAR WASH TUNNEL, AGAIN, IS, UH, A LITTLE, A LITTLE OVER 4,900 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE.
ALL THE EQUIPMENT IS LOCATED WITHIN, UH, THE BUILDING AND INCLUDES THE, THE CAR WASH TUNNEL, THE EQUIPMENT ROOM, AND A A 273 SQUARE FOOT OFFICE AREA.
THE PROPOSED BUILDING HEIGHT IS ONE STORY AT, UH, 29 FEET, SIX INCHES.
UH, THERE ARE A TOTAL OF FIVE PARKING SPACES.
UH, THERE ARE 40 VEHICLE STACKING SPACES WITHIN THE QUEUING AREA.
THEY'RE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE, UH, OF THE BAY OF THE, UH, VACUUM BAYS.
UH, THERE ARE 20 VACUUM BAYS, AND THOSE ARE THE PURPLE KIND OF HIGHLIGHTED AREAS THERE.
AND THEN THE LANDSCAPE AREA, AGAIN IS, UH, THREE TIMES THE AMOUNT THAT IT'S, UH,
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ABOVE THE MINIMUM REQUIRED.THE PROPOSED HOURS OF OPERATION ARE FROM 7:30 AM TO 8:00 PM DURING THE SUMMER, AND FROM 7:30 AM TO 7:00 PM DURING THE WINTER.
THESE ARE THE APPROVED, UH, BUILDING ELEVATIONS FOR THE DAYCARE CENTER.
THESE ARE SIMPLY HERE FOR, FOR, UH, INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES.
THE STRUCTURE ITSELF IS A 100% MASONRY CONSTRUCTION.
THESE ARE THE ELEVATIONS, UH, FOR THE PROPOSED CAR WASH.
THE CAR WASH TUNNEL, UH, WOULD BE FINISHED IN A BEIGE AND GRAY SPLIT FACE, UH, C M U WITH METAL TRIM AND CASTSTONE ACCENTS, INCLUDING A METAL SHED ROOF.
UH, AND THERE ARE TWO AT EACH END OF THE, OF THE TUNNEL.
THE PAY STATION ITSELF, WHICH IS LOCATED THERE ON THE BOTTOM SIDE, AND THE VACUUM CANOPIES WOULD BE FINISHED IN A POWER IN A POWDER COATED STEEL WITH, UH, CANOPY FABRICS.
UH, I'VE, I'VE PURPOSELY, UH, LABELED THE LOCATION OF THE, OF THE CHILDCARE CENTER, JUST TO GIVE YOU A GOOD FRAME OF REFERENCE.
THAT, OF COURSE, IS LOOKING NORTH AT THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
UH, THIS IS LOOKING SOUTH AT THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
YOU CAN SEE THE DAYCARE CENTER THERE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE.
AND THE OTHER TWO PHOTOS ARE LOOKING EAST AT THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
AND THE LAST PHOTO LOOKING WEST AT, AT THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
SO YOU SEE THE ACTUAL LOCATION OF THE, UH, THE CHACO CENTER.
YOU'LL ALSO SEE THE OPEN, UH, DRAINAGE CHANNEL THAT IS LOCATED, THAT IS LOCATED THERE AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
THEY WILL ENCLOSE OUT AND CONNECT IT WITH THE EXISTING, UH, DRAINAGE SYSTEM THAT FLOWS WEST, AND THEN ULTIMATELY FLOWS NORTHWEST AND ULTIMATELY NORTH TO CENTENNIAL BOULEVARD.
AS A FRAME OF REFERENCE, WHAT I PROVIDED YOU IS A SLIDE SHOWING YOU OTHER LOCATIONS FOR CAR WASHES.
THE ONLY CAR WASH OF THIS TYPE THAT IS WITHIN THE CITY OF RICHARDSON IS LOCATED AT, UH, AT A ON ARAPAHOE ROAD.
IT'S, UH, 1.88 MILES AWAY FROM THE SUBJECT SITE.
THE OTHER TWO SITES ARE A LITTLE CLOSER, BUT THEY'RE, BUT THEY'RE LOCATED IN, UH, WITHIN THE CITY OF DALLAS.
SO, IN SUMMARY, THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST IS FOR A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR THE OC OFFICE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH MODIFIED DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND APPROVAL OF A SPECIAL PERMIT FOR A CAR WASH.
IF COUNSEL APPROVES ITS REQUEST, THE FOLLOWING CONDITION SHALL APPLY.
NOW, THE FIRST, UH, THE FIRST TWO ITEMS, THERE ARE REALLY, THEY'RE, UH, APPLIC, UM, APPLICABLE TO THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.
THE PROPERTY SHALL DEVELOP, SHALL BE DEVELOPED IN SUBSTANTIAL CONFORMANCE WITH THE CONCEPT PLAN LABELED AS EXHIBIT B.
AND THE CHILDCARE CENTER BUILDINGS ELEVATIONS, UH, LABELED AS EXHIBIT C.
THE PROPERTY SHALL BE DEVELOPED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE OC OFFICE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT REG REGULATIONS, EXCEPT FOR THE FOLLOWING, THE USES, IN ADDITION TO THE USES PERMITTED IN THAT DISTRICT TRACK, ONE SHALL BE ALLOWED TO BE DEVELOPED AS A CHILDCARE CENTER, AND IT CURRENTLY IS, A CAR WASH SHALL BE ALLOWED UPON APPROVAL OF A SPECIAL PERMIT.
AND THAT WOULD BE FOR TRACK TWO LOT FRONTAGE, UH, LOT WITHOUT FRONTAGE AND A FLAG LOT TRACK.
ONE SHALL BE ALLOWED TO BE PLATTED AS A LOT WITHOUT STREET FRONTAGE.
AND TRACK TWO SHALL BE ALLOWED TO, UH, BE PLATTED AS A FLAG LOTT AS LONG AS A PERMANENT MUTUAL ACCESS EASEMENT IS, IS DEDICATED TO PROVIDE INGRESS AND EGRESS BETWEEN TRACK ONE AND CENTENNIAL BOULEVARD.
AND ACROSS TRACK TWO, THOSE PLATTS WERE APPROVED IN 2020, ALONG WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PLANS AND THOSE EASEMENTS, UH, EXISTS ON THE PLAT.
NOW, THESE CONDITIONS APPLY TO THIS SPECIAL PERMIT.
UH, THE SPECIAL PERMIT SHALL BE GRANTED TO ALLOW A CAR WASH ON TRACK TWO AND SHALL AND SHALL BE DEVELOPED IN SUBSTANTIAL CONFORMANCE WITH A COMP CONCEPT PLAN, WHICH IS EXHIBIT B AND THE CAR WASH ELEVATIONS EXHIBIT D, SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.
NO OTHER COMPANY, BUSINESS OR ENTITY MAY OPERATE A CAR WASH ON THE PROPERTY OTHER THAN CLEARWATER EXPRESS CAR WASH.
THE SPECIAL PERMIT AUTOMATICALLY TERMINATES UPON THE CHANGE IN O OWNERSHIP OR OPERATOR IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE.
A BUILDING PERMIT MUST BE OBTAINED IN COM IN ACCORDANCE WITH ARTICLE 22 A SUBSECTION SEVEN B OF THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE A BUILDING PERMIT TO BE ISSUED, UH, WITHIN 180 DAYS OF THE APPROVAL OF THE, UH, ORDINANCE.
UH, SHOULD THIS BE APPROVED, A MINIMUM OF FIVE PARKING SPACES SHALL BE PROVIDED AND THE CANOPY AND ORNAMENTAL TREES SHALL, SHALL NOT BE REQUIRED WITHIN THE LANDSCAPE ISLANDS AT THE ENDS OF THE PARKING ROWS OR WITHIN LANDSCAPE ISLANDS AT THE ENDS OF VACUUM BAY PARKING AREAS.
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THIS IS TO ALLOW FOR THOSE JUST WASH, JUST, UH, FRESHLY WASHED VEHICLES TO REMAIN CLEAN BEFORE THEY LEAVE THE SITE ITSELF.ONE THING I DID, UH, FAILED TO MENTION IS THAT AS PART OF THEIR LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENT, THE APPLICANT, IT WILL BE PLANTING AN AREA BETWEEN THE WASH BAYS AND THE EXISTING CHILDCARE CENTER WITH AN EVERGREEN SHRUB ROW TO HELP MITIGATE THE IDLING NOISE AND ANY, UH, VEHICLE FUMES THAT THAT WOULD OCCUR, UH, WITHIN, UH, THAT PACE STATION AREA.
SO ON SEPTEMBER 19TH, THE, UH, THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION RECOMMENDED IT OF THE REQUEST BY A VOTE OF THREE TO TWO, UH, TWO MEMBERS, UH, RECOMMEND RECOMMENDING DENIAL OF THE REQUEST, UH, EXPRESSED CONCERN ABOUT, UH, NOT KNOWING THE WATER USE U USAGE, UH, FOR THE FACILITY.
UH, THE APPLICANT, UH, SUBSEQUENT TO THAT MEETING DID PROVIDE THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION, UH, AS FAR AS FRESHWATER USE WITHOUT ANY SORT OF RECLA, UH, RECLAMATION PER VEHICLE.
A, A TYPICAL CAR WASH TO USE ABOUT 79 GALLONS PER VEHICLE.
NOW, WITH RECLAMATION, THEY WOULD ACTUALLY USE 16 GALLONS OF FRESH WATER.
THAT MEANS THAT 80% OF THAT WATER THAT'S BEING USED IS BEING RECLAIMED AND REUS AND REUSED PER VEHICLE.
AND YOU CAN SEE AS THEY MULTIPLY ACROSS BASED ON, LET'S SAY, UH, 400 VEHICLES PER DAY, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT THOSE GALLONS, UH, EQUATE TO.
NOW THE FRESHWATER, UH, RECLAMATION SYSTEM SIMPLY PROCESSES.
IT'S A PROCESS THAT SEPARATES WASTE FROM, FROM WASH WATER TO REMOVE SOAP, WAX, SAND, GRIT, AND OIL BEFORE REUSING THE, IN THE WASH CYCLE, OR DISCHARGING A PORTION OF THAT INTO THE, UH, WASTEWATER SYSTEM.
IF YOU CAN THINK OF A, LET'S SAY A CANAL SYSTEM, UH, THAT ESSENTIALLY DUMPS WATER INTO, INTO A, INTO A CISTERN.
AND THEN AS THOSE SEDIMENTS SETTLE, THE CLEANER WATER RAISE, UH, RISES TO THE TOP, AND THEN IT OVERFLOWS SEVERAL, UH, SEVERAL, UH, TANKS, AND THAT'S HOW THEY RECLAIM THE WATER.
AT SOME POINT, IT GETS PUSHED BACK INTO THE, UH, INTO THE ACTUAL WASH WATER CYCLE.
AND THEN WHAT'S NOT PROCLAIMED IS, IS, IS, UH, DISCHARGED INTO OUR WASTEWATER SYSTEM.
WITH THAT, I KNOW THE APPLICANT AND THE OPERATOR ARE HERE IN, UH, IN ATTENDANCE TO ENTER, TO ENTER, UH, TO ANSWER ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS.
AND AT THIS POINT, UH, I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS.
COUNSEL, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? MR. BARRIOS? THANK YOU, MAYOR SAM, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
YOU MENTIONED, UH, AT THE BEGINNING OF YOUR PRESENTATION ABOUT ANOTHER REQUEST THAT, WHERE CAN YOU KIND OF EXPLAIN, THERE WAS A REQUEST, BUT IT WASN'T ON THIS PROPERTY FIVE YEARS AGO? OBVIOUSLY I WASN'T A PART OF THE COUNCIL THEN.
CAN YOU REFRESH, CAN YOU TELL ME WHERE IT WAS IN RELATION TO THIS? IT IS HERE, UH, IT'S, IT'S ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF CENTENNIAL.
UH, I BELIEVE THAT'S A WALGREENS AND HERE ARE THE TOWN HOMES.
UH, THEY'RE DEVELOPED, BUT YES, IT DID COME IN BACK IN 2019.
AND WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO IS, WAS DEMOLISH THAT EASTERN BUILDING AND REDEVELOP THE SITE AS A CAR WASH.
THE, THE PROPERTY THAT WE ARE CONSIDERING TONIGHT, I DROVE, I DROVE IT SATURDAY MORNING AND IT APPEARS THERE'S LIKE A CULVERT, A DRAINAGE.
SO WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT? AND IF THIS SITE IS DEVELOPED, WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT RUNOFF OR THEY WILL REROUTE THE DRAINAGE.
RIGHT NOW THAT OPEN CULVERT IS ROUGHLY IN THIS LOCATION.
THEY'LL REROUTE IT AROUND THE BUILDING AND THEN TIE IT BACK IN TO THE EXISTING, UH, CULVERT HERE.
IT'LL THEN PROCEED IN THIS DIRECTION AND THEN OUT AND TIE BACK INTO, UH, CENTENNIAL BOULEVARD.
SO IT'LL GO UNDERGROUND AND RERO AND IT'LL BE REROUTED AROUND THE BUILDING.
I MAYBE, I JUST DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND.
UH, SO MAYBE YOU CAN JUST KIND OF BREAK IT DOWN FOR ME.
SO WHEN IT RAINS RIGHT NOW, THE RAIN, THAT AREA, YOU KNOW, CATCHES RAIN, IT GOES INTO THE CULVERT, IT DRAINS OUT.
WHAT WOULD HAPPEN, I GUESS, TO RUN OFF? OR WOULD WE HAVE TO BUILD, UM, INLETS INTO THE DRAIN SYSTEM? OR HELP ME KIND OF UNDERSTAND THAT.
AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, THEY WILL COME IN WITH THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE PLANS, WHICH INCLUDES CIVIL GRADING DRAINAGE.
SO WHAT THEY'LL DO IS THEY WILL TIE INTO
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THE EXISTING DRAINAGE SYSTEM THAT ALREADY EXISTS.BASICALLY STARTS HERE, GOES FLOW SOUTH SOUTHWARD, AND THEN IT'S TIED INTO THE EXISTING DRAINAGE SYSTEM FOR THE CHILDCARE CENTER.
IT'LL TIE IN AGAIN HERE, IT'LL BE UNDERGROUND AND REROUTED AROUND.
SO THE FLOW OF THAT DRAINAGE IS, IS BASICALLY WEST TO NORTHWEST TO NORTH AND TIE INTO THE EXISTING STORM DRAIN ALONG CENTENNIAL BOULEVARD.
SAM, WHEN YOU SAY, WHEN YOU SAY TIE IN, YOU'RE, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE INLETS AND OTHER ON THE, ON THE PROPERTY THAT'S BEING DEVELOPED, THAT'LL CORRECT.
THEN TAKE THAT WATER AND TRANSFER IT TO THE, UM, UNDERGROUND SYSTEM, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.
SO JUST I, SAM, MAKE SURE I HEARD YOU RIGHT.
IS THE PROPERTY OWNER HERE AS WELL? YES, SIR.
AND THEN DO WE HAVE ANY SORT OF SPECIAL OR UNIQUE OR SORT OF LIKE ABOVE AND BEYOND CODES REGARDING THINGS LIKE SLUDGE, GRIT TRAPS, UM, OTHER SORT OF LIKE SILT COLLECTION, YOU KNOW, THE KIND OF THINGS THAT YOU WOULD HAVE AT A CAR WASH LIKE THIS? IS THERE ANYTHING SPECIAL THAT RICHARDSON HAS IN REGARD TO THAT? WELL, THE BUILDING CODE REQUIRES, UH, SAND TRAPS.
UH, SO THEY DO HAVE THAT AND WHICH ALSO INCLUDES THE, UH, THE, UH, THE GREASE TRAP, UH, FILTRATION.
SO, SO THEY'LL BE REQUIRED BY CODE TO PROVIDE THOSE.
COUNCILMAN? I WOULD SAY THAT WE HAVE THE MOST CONTEMPORARY UPTODATE REQUIREMENTS THERE ARE WITH ADOPTING THE 2021 INTERNATIONAL BUILDING CODES.
I MEAN, THOSE ARE GONNA BE THE MOST STAND, I MEAN, THE MOST CONTEMPORARY STANDARDS YOU CAN ADOPT.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS COUPLE, THESE COUPLE QUESTIONS ARE FOR THE OWNER OR FOR YOU, BUT THE, THE PRIOR LOCATION IS, I BELIEVE THAT'S NOW BEEN, THAT BUILDING'S BEEN RENOVATED AND IT'S BEEN PAINTED WHITE.
IT'S VERY, ACTUALLY, ACTUALLY A VERY NICE BUILDING.
BUT WHAT, WHAT WAS THE REASON FOR IT? UH, WHAT GETTING APPROVED FOR THAT LOCATION? 'CAUSE IT HAS STREET ACCESS, WHICH YOU WOULD'VE THOUGHT WOULD'VE MADE, UH, SINCE, BUT IS THERE A SPECIFIC REASON WHY THERE'S CONCERNED ABOUT NOISE LIGHTING AND THE AMOUNT OF ON SIGNS CIRCULATION ADJACENT TO THIS TOWN HOME DEVELOPMENT? SO I THINK THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF, A LOT OF THE CONCERN FROM THE COMMISSION, UH, CAME FROM.
OF COURSE, WE DID HAVE A, A GOOD NUMBER OF THOSE THAT LIVE IN THIS AREA OPPOSED TO THAT REQUEST AS WELL.
I KNOW THAT THERE IS, UH, OF COURSE THOSE ARE FAST FOOD LOCATIONS RIGHT THERE TO GET IN AND OUT OF THE, UH, FACILITY.
I NOTICED THAT ON THE TRAFFIC PLAN, UM, WE HAVE INCOMING TRAFFIC OFF OF CENTENNIAL AND IT WILL JOG THROUGH THE CENTER, AND THEN THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER OUTLET THAT GOES INTO THE KROGER PARKING LOT.
SO HOW MUCH TRAFFIC WILL ACTUALLY, OR HOW MUCH DO YOU ANTICIPATE, UM, THAT WILL BE COMING INTO THAT AREA AND AND HOW WOULD THEY BE EXITING EXACTLY? I DON'T HAVE THE, THE EXACT NUMBERS, BUT I DO KNOW THAT AT THEIR PM PEAK TIME, UH, THEY'RE EXPECTING TO SEE ABOUT 70 VEHICLES.
IT'S MORE OF A PM PEAK HIGHEST.
I WAS ASK YOU THAT QUESTION AS WELL.
WHEN WAS THE, WHEN IS THE PEAK TIME? SO IN THE EVENING AS FAR, YEAH, IT, IT'S PM MM-HMM.
SO THEIR MAIN ACCESS IS REALLY ALONG THIS EXISTING DRIVE.
AND THERE IS A RIDE IN AND RIGHT OUT ONLY ONTO CENTENNIAL.
NOW THERE ARE MUTUAL ACCESS EASEMENTS ALL ACROSS THIS PROPERTY, INCLUDING THE, UH, THE KROGER PROPERTY.
SO THERE ARE MULTIPLE POINTS THAT SOMEONE CAN ACCESS IT.
IF SOMEONE IS EASTBOUND AND WANTS TO GET TO THE ACTUAL CAR WASH SITE, THEY CAN USE THIS EXISTING MEDIAN OPENING THERE AND GO DOWN THAT COMMON DRIVEWAY AND ACCESS THE SITE VIA THOSE EXISTING DRIVEWAYS.
SO THERE ARE MULTIPLE ACCESS POINTS AND ACCESS EASEMENTS TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE.
WELL, WE CERTAINLY DO NEED A CAR WASH IN THAT AREA.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IS AESTHETICALLY PLEASING.
UM, AND THIS MIGHT BE A QUESTION FOR THE OWNER, I JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW THE LANDSCAPING PORTION IS GOING TO WORK.
AND AGAIN, THAT CAN, MIGHT BE THE QUESTION FOR THE OWNER.
JUST WANT TO SEE IF WE HAVE ENOUGH SOFT SCAPING AND, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON WHAT KIND OF ARCHITECTURAL LAND HARDSCAPING WE HAVE AS WELL TO MAKE IT, 'CAUSE IT IS, IT IS COMPACTED AND IT'S SITTING BACK THERE BY ITSELF.
SO WE WANT IT TO LOOK, YOU KNOW, AS ATTRACTIVE AS IT POSSIBLY CAN.
BASED ON THE REQUIRED AMOUNT OF LANDSCAPE AREA,
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THEY ARE THREE TIMES LARGER THAN WHAT WOULD NORMALLY BE REQUIRED FOR, FOR ANY SITE.UH, WITH ANY RETAIL DEVELOPMENT, YOU'RE, YOU'RE BOUND TO HAVE MORE IN THE 10 TO 12% LANDSCAPE AREA PROVIDED BECAUSE OF THE, THE, UH, THE NEED FOR THE DEMAND FOR PARKING.
BUT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, REALLY THERE AREN'T REALLY, THEY'RE NOT PARKING ON THE SITE.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE ESSENTIALLY USING THE SITE, GETTING THEIR CAR WASH, UH, VACUUMING OUT THE VEHICLE THEN, THEN, UH, THAN LEAVING THE SITE.
SO THEY'RE AT 30% AS OPPOSED TO 10%.
SO THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF AMOUNT OF OPEN SPACE AND, AND THAT'S GOOD.
THANK YOU MAYOR PROTI, JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION, JUST TO CLARIFY THIS, WHEN YOU MENTIONED LANDSCAPE AREA, LANDSCAPE DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT'S REALLY LANDSCAPED AREA.
IT IT IS LIKE OPEN SPACE, GRASS AREA, RIGHT? IT COULD BE.
THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.
ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY.
THANK YOU SAM, WE'D ASK THE APPLICANT TO COME FORWARD IF THEY'D LIKE TO SHARE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WITH US.
AT THIS TIME WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I'LL, IF I'LL GO AHEAD AND READ THE, UH, NAMES OF THE CARDS THAT WE RECEIVED IN ADVANCE AND THEN AMY, UH, EMER OUR CITY SECRETARY.
WE'LL CALL THE, UH, SPEAKERS, IF THAT'S OKAY.
SO, UH, IN ADVANCE OF THE 5:00 PM DEADLINE, UM, WE RECEIVED CARDS FROM THE FOLLOWING, UM, RICHARDSON RESIDENCE, KELLY LIU OF 8 61 DARTFORD IS OPPOSED TO ZONING FILE 2309, ALEXANDRIA, ALEXANDRIA, EXCUSE ME, AGU 8 61 DARTFORD OPPOSED.
TAMMY PETERSON, 8 65 WHITEHALL OPPOSED A ALEXIS PUENTE 8 36 DARTFORD OPPOSED HAM BU RASHED 8 36 DARTFORD OPPOSED LANYA GUERRERO 8 49 DARTFORD OPPOSED, JUSTIN NE 1125 EAST RENER OPPOSED.
MUHAMMAD CELINE 8 49 ROHAN OPPOSED.
JENNIFER PAXTON, 8 37 DARTFORD OPPOSED ALEX JUSTICE 8 57 ROHAN OPPOSED.
MEGAN FLEMING, FIVE 16 WILLINGHAM OPPOSED HIR ALKI 8 25 DARTFORD OPPOSED.
AND STEVEN WU, 9 46 DARTFORD OPPOSED TO ZONING FILE 2309 OH.
I'LL TURN A NOTE OVER AMY TO CALL OUR SPEAKERS.
MAYOR, WE HAVE THREE SPEAKERS SIGNED UP.
MEGAN, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US THIS EVENING.
IF YOU WOULD PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.
UM, I'M MEGAN ROUSE AND I LIVE AT 8 2 9 DARTFORD DRIVE.
UM, SO I'M PART OF THE TOWNS BUCKINGHAM, UM, COMMUNITY THAT YOU JUST HEARD FROM.
SO MOST OF THOSE, UH, ADDRESSES ARE FROM MY COMMUNITY.
UM, I WAS VERY INVOLVED IN THE 2019, UM, CENTENNIAL CAR WASH.
SO A LOT OF YOU HAVE BEEN ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT THE LOCATION OF THAT.
UM, A LOT OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH, IT WAS PROBABLY ABOUT FIVE FEET FROM THE TOWNS OF BUCKINGHAM IN BETWEEN WALGREENS AND UH, BRAHMS. AND SO, UM, WE HAD QUITE A FEW PEOPLE WHO CAME OUT FOR THAT.
UM, UH, THE C P C MEETING, UM, IN JULY OF 2019.
UM, THIS TIME, UH, WE WERE NOT NOTIFIED OF IT, UM, BECAUSE WE WEREN'T WITHIN THE 200 FEET REQUIREMENT.
UM, SO YOU'RE HEARING A LOT OF VOICES NOW BECAUSE WE JUST BECAME AWARE AFTER, UM, THIS PLAN HAD PASSED FROM C P C THREE TO TWO.
UM, SO JUST KIND OF A CONTEXT, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE 2019, I'M HAPPY TO GIVE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT.
UM, I THINK OUR BIGGEST CONCERN, UM, IS THAT WHILE WE MAY, MAY NOT BE FIVE FEET AWAY, THERE'S A LOT OF THE SAME ISSUES WITH THE CAR WASH STILL EXIST.
UM, NOISE, YOU TALKED ABOUT 20 VACUUM BAYS, YOU KNOW, FROM SEVEN 30 TO 8:00 PM 7:37 PM UM, WHILE THERE MAY BE SOME SHIELDING FROM THAT, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WANTS TO HAVE THAT.
YOU'RE ALSO RIGHT NEXT TO A DAYCARE CENTER.
SO I'D ASSUME IF THOSE ARE GOING ALL DAY LONG, THAT WOULD BE A DISTURBANCE TO TRACK.
UM, AND THEN WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE NUMBER OF CARS THAT ARE COMING THROUGH, IT WAS, UH, I THINK 70 ON THE PEAK HOURS, 40 ON THE NON-PEAK HOURS.
SO THAT EQUATES TO 600 TO 800 ISH CARS, UM, ENTERING DAILY, UM, OR ONE A CAR EVERY 1.2 MINUTES.
UM, JUST A LOT OF DISTURBANCE, EXTRA NOISE.
YOU'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THERE.
UM, IN TERMS OF POLLUTION, UM, WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT RUNOFF.
WE ARE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY AND DRAINAGE ALREADY IS AN ISSUE FROM THE STARS BUILDING.
AND NO, DEPENDING ON HOW THAT GETS CAPPED UP RIGHT NOW, THE LOT SEEMS TO BE A HOLE
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WITH A DRAINAGE PIPE IN IT.YOU KNOW, IF THAT GETS CAPPED UP, MAYBE THAT WILL HELP THE ISSUE.
BUT WE'RE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT WATER, ANY SORT OF RUNOFF THAT COULD HAPPEN.
UM, ALSO EXHAUST FROM ALL OF THOSE CARS COULD FLOW RIGHT INTO OUR COMMUNITY.
UM, AND THEN IN TERMS OF THE TRAFFIC, UM, WE DON'T FEEL IT'S A GREAT ACCESS POINT.
I THINK CENTENNIAL WOULD REALLY GET STOPPED UP BECAUSE THERE'S REALLY NO MAIN ACCESS ROAD EVEN BEFORE IN THE PRIOR CAR WASH.
YOU KNOW, TRYING TO GET IN AND OUT OF CENTENNIAL FROM THE MAIN ROAD WOULD BE AN ISSUE.
IF YOU'VE DRIVEN BACK BY KROGER, YOU HAVE ISSUES WITH, YOU'RE BY THE BANK, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TRYING TO GET AROUND, YOU GOT ZAXBY'S THERE, THERE'S A SOCCER FIELD THAT NO ONE'S ADDRESSED ALSO THAT HAS PARKING THAT I THINK PARKS THERE ON THE WEEKENDS.
I THINK THEY WERE, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY CAME FOR THE C P C HEARING, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO PARK IF THE CAR WASH IS IN THE WAY.
UM, SO THERE'S A, SOME TRAFFIC ISSUES THERE.
UM, LIGHTING, UM, THAT COULD BE A CONCERN.
I DIDN'T SEE ANY LIGHTING STUDIES, IF THERE'D BE ANY OVERFLOW FROM LIGHT POLLUTION.
UM, AND THEN SAFETY, UM, IF YOU'RE RIGHT NEXT TO THE DAYCARE CENTER AND YOU'RE RIGHT NEXT TO A HOCKEY RINK, IF YOU'VE GOT A CAR WASH, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT KIDS AROUND, UM, YOU COULD HAVE PEOPLE, CAR WASHES USUALLY BRING LOITERING LATE NIGHT.
UM, WE ALREADY HAVE ISSUES, UM, WITH DRAG RACING ON CENTENNIAL, LIKE RIGHT THERE.
UM, SO WE COULD HAVE INCREASED CRIME, ILLEGAL ACTIVITY.
UM, AND THEN WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT OUR PROPERTY VALUES.
YOU KNOW, NOBODY WANTS A CAR WASH PRETTY MUCH KIND OF IN THEIR BACKYARD.
UM, SO THAT COULD BE AN ISSUE.
UM, AND THEN I'M NOT SURE IN TERMS OF THE RADIUS, UM, THE LAST TIME WE HAD LOOKED IT UP, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WAS SPECIFICALLY FOR EXPRESS CAR WASHES IN THEIR PROXIMITY.
UM, THERE SEEMED TO BE, I HAVE FOUND 16 CAR WASHES WITHIN A THREE MILE RADIUS AND 27 CAR WASHES WITHIN A FIVE MILE RADIUS.
SO I THINK THE ACCESSIBILITY TO CAR WASH IS EASY TO GET TO.
YOU CAN GO DOWN SPRING VALLEY ONE WAY, YOU CAN GO TO GREENVILLE AND WALNUT.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT, UM, OPTIONS IN THE AREA.
UM, AND SO I WOULD LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER, UM, AS HOMEOWNERS, WE WOULD PREFER NOT TO HAVE A CAR WASH IN OUR BACKYARD.
UM, AND WE'VE ALREADY DEALT WITH THIS ONCE AND NOW WE'RE HERE, WE'VE DONE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION, SO WHY NOT COME TO CITY COUNCIL? UM, AND SO I'D LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER IT ALSO IN, UH, THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION.
IT WENT THREE TO TWO, FOUR OF THE MEMBERS WERE NOT THERE THAT DAY, SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS FULLY CONSIDERED.
ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, MOHAMED.
PLEASE GIVE YOUR ADDRESS AND NAME FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.
I AM FROM 8 0 5 LOTUS DRIVE, RICHARDSON, TEXAS 7 5 0 8 1.
I AM THE PRESIDENT, UH, OF THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION OF VILLAS OF BUCKINGHAM.
AND, UH, WE HAVE, UH, 87 HOMES IN THAT PROPERTY.
AND, UH, I, ON BEHALF OF H A A HOMEOWNERS, UH, OF 89 PROPERTIES IN OUR ZA BUCKINGHAM OPPOSE THIS.
AND I ECHO WITH THE, WITH, WITH THE, WITH YOU.
I'M SORRY I DIDN'T GET YOUR NAME, BUT NAME I I TOTALLY ECHO WITH YOU.
IT IS THE ALREADY WE HAVE LOT OF HIGH TRAFFIC IN LAST COUPLE OF YEARS AND WE CANNOT, UH, KNOWINGLY ACCEPT ANY HIGHER TRAFFIC INTO THIS AREA.
AND WHENEVER THERE IS A CONCERN OF HIGHER TRAFFIC, IT COMES WITH A BAG OF PROBLEMS LIKE
WE NEED TO BE EXTRA CAREFUL ABOUT THAT PLACE.
WE CANNOT ACCEPT ANY MORE TRAFFIC WILLINGLY, WHICH CAN, I MEAN, BEHIND OUR, UH, MINE CAN, UH, CAN BE A SET ISSUE.
WE HAVE A NICE SOCCER FIELD AND THAT SOCCER FIELD IS A GREEN AREA.
AND, UH, AT AS A, WE HAVE MORE TRAFFIC'S COMING AND WE ARE SLOWLY SEEING THAT GREEN AREA IS IN RISK BASICALLY.
SO THIS KIND OF, UH, PROPOSAL, UH, OF TON'S, DEFINITELY A BIG CONCERN ABOUT THAT GREEN AREA.
AND IT CONNECTS TO THE ENVIRONMENT.
AND, UH, UH, THE LAST ONE, BUT NOT LEAST, DEFINITELY OUR PROPERTY VALUE WILL BE DECREASED BECAUSE OF THIS KIND OF, UH, JOINING CHANGE REQUEST.
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HELLO EVERYONE.I LIVE IN, UH, 9 0 9 RAF AVENUE, RICHARD ISON, TEXAS, PART OF THE SAME, UH, SUBDIVISION ZO BUCKINGHAM.
SO I, I ECHO THE SAME CONCERNS THE PREVIOUS TWO PERSONS.
I OPPOSE THE, UH, PROPOSITION HERE BECAUSE, UM, THE TRAFFIC, THERE'S NOISE, THERE'S THE, LIKE, THERE'S A, UH, IT'S ALSO GOING TO IMPACT OUR PROPERTY VALUES.
AND I, I BELIEVE THERE'S ALSO A SENIOR LIVING BEHIND RIGHT CLOSE TO THE SOCCER FIELD ALSO, UH, WHICH IS NOT TOO FAR AWAY ALSO.
SO I THINK, AND ALSO LATELY, UH, WE HAVE, I LIVE RIGHT OFF THE, MY BACKYARD IS OFF THE WHITE HOLE DRIVE AND WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF ACTIVITIES TOWARDS THE NIGHTS AND THE WEEKENDS.
SO IT JUST VERY CONCERNED THAT IT, IT WILL MAKE THINGS WORSE ACTUALLY.
SO THAT'S WHY I, I OPPOSE THAT.
NO ADDITIONAL COMMENTS AT THIS TIME.
I'D LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE.
DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? I WAS GONNA ASK, COULD THE, COULD THE APPLICANT COME UP? I HAD A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.
CAN THEY, CAN THEY COME UP NOW? YES, SIR.
UH, HEATHER RIMMER, I'M WITH CROSS DEVELOPMENT, UM, IN CARROLLTON, TEXAS, AND I BROUGHT OPERATIONS TO, IN CASE THE QUESTIONS, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWERS TO.
SO
UM, SO JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP TONIGHT.
AS FAR AS THE VACUUMS IS, ARE THEY, ARE THE BAYS, ARE THEY INDIVIDUAL VACUUMS OR IS THERE A CENTRAL VAC WHERE EVERYTHING IS PIPED TO IT? AND IS THAT VAC IN SOME TYPE OF AN ENCLOSED BUILDING FROM AN NOISE PERSPECTIVE? SO COULD YOU, COULD YOU TALK ABOUT THAT FOR A MOMENT? THE MAIN PRODUCER OF THE NOISE IS INTERNAL.
IT'S INSIDE THE BUILDING, SO THAT'S INSIDE THE BUILDING.
AND THEN THERE'S SMALL CANISTERS AT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM THAT CATCH ALL OF THE DIRT AND WHATEVER YOU GET OUTTA YOUR CAR.
BUT, UM, BUT YEAH, THE MAIN PRODUCER OF THE, THE VOLUME AND EVERYTHING IS INSIDE THE EQUIPMENT ROOM.
AND THEN, UM, HAVE Y'ALL, HAVE YOU DONE ANY TYPE ON, BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING IS YOU HAVE SEVERAL OF THESE, I'LL SAY AROUND D F W AND I, YOU DON'T HAVE TO TELL ME EXACTLY WHERE, BUT HAVE YOU DONE SOME TYPE OF NOISE STUDY? IS THERE ANY, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ON, UH, OF, UH, FROM A RECORD PERSPECTIVE TO SAY WHAT TYPE OF DECIBELS OF OF NOISE COME FROM THE, THE CAR WASH? 'CAUSE I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN AND THEN SURE.
THEN IF Y'ALL HAVE INFORMATION TO DISCUSS THAT.
SO PRIOR TO US OPENING, WE JOINED THE SOUTHWEST CAR ASSOCIATION, WHICH IS A LARGE CAR ASSOCIATION BASED IN AUSTIN.
AND WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE COMPLIANT, WHETHER IT WAS NOISE OR, UH, WATER DRAINAGE, ANY OF THAT SORT OF THING, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE WITHIN THE GUIDELINES OF WHAT THIS PARTICULAR ENTITY SET FORTH.
AND SO, WHILE I DON'T HAVE THE DECAL READINGS, I CAN TELL YOU THAT ALL OF THE EQUIPMENT WE SELECT IS WITHIN THE GUIDELINES SET FORTH BY THE SOUTHWEST CAR WEST ASSOCIATION.
AND SO, UM, AS FAR AS ANY KIND OF NOISE THAT WOULD BE CON COMING FROM THE VACUUMS TO HER POINT, WHICH THE PRODUCER, WHICH IS THIS LARGE, UH, DEVICE THAT'S INSIDE THE BUILDING OR THE VACUUMS THEMSELVES, UH, ARE WELL WITHIN THE GUIDELINES SET FORTH, UH, WITHIN THE CAR WASH ASSOCIATION.
UM, COULD YOU ALSO ADDRESS, I KNOW THERE WAS CONCERNS ABOUT MY WORDS, IT MAY NOT BE THE RIGHT WORD TO USE, BUT I'LL SAY ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT.
THE FILTRATION THAT YOU DO AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT BEFORE THE WATER GOES OUT TO THE, OUT TO THE, UM, SEPTIC SYSTEM, IF YOU WILL HAVE THE SYSTEM BACK? YEAH.
SO, UM, WE HAVE FOUR, UH, 2000 GALLON TANKS THAT ARE, UM, PUT INTO THE GROUND, OBVIOUSLY BEFORE ANY OF THE FLAT WORK IS DONE.
AND SO ESSENTIALLY, UH, THE GENTLEMAN DID A REALLY GOOD JOB OF DESCRIBING HOW THE WATER IS MANAGED AND RECLAIMED.
BUT THESE WA UH, THESE, UH, TANKS ARE DESIGNED TO TAKE THE WATER FROM WHAT WE REFER TO AS THE TUNNEL, WHICH IS THE, THE AREA WHERE YOU DRIVE THROUGH, WHERE ALL THE WATER IS, IS, IS, UH, PUT ON THE VEHICLE.
AND THEN IT GOES THROUGH A SERIES OF THESE TANKS.
AND THEN THE VERY LAST ONE HAS THIS DEVICE CALLED A SAND OIL SEPARATOR.
SO IF ANYTHING IS IN THE WATER THAT SHOULDN'T BE PUT INTO THE WASTEWATER SYSTEM, IT'S COLLECTED IN THIS SEPARATOR.
AND THEN ABOUT ONCE EVERY FOUR TO SIX MONTHS, WE HAVE THOSE ACTUALLY, UH, THOSE TANKS, UH, FLUSHED.
SO A TRUCK WILL COME IN AND LITERALLY
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REMOVE ALL OF IT AND TAKE IT TO A WASTEWATER TREATMENT FACILITY FOR ENVIRONMENTAL, UH, DISPOSAL.SO BASICALLY EVERYTHING WE PUT ON THE VEHICLE IS EITHER WATER OR A WATER-BASED CHEMICAL, EXCEPT THE VERY LAST APPLICATION IS TIRE SHINE, WHICH IS A CHEMICAL BASED, UH, EXCUSE ME, A A PETROLEUM BASED CHEMICAL.
SO THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT WE WOULD EVER HAVE THAT WOULD, UH, GET INTO THE SAND OIL SEPARATOR.
AND THEN, LIKE I SAID, JUST AS A PRECAUTIONARY MEASURE, EVERY FEW MONTHS WE'LL HAVE IT PUMPED.
AND SO THAT THE ONLY THING THAT'S EVER BEING DRAINED OUT INTO THE, WHAT I'LL CALL THE CITY'S WATER SYSTEM, IS SAFE ENVIRONMENTAL FRIENDLY LIQUIDS.
UM, COULD YOU ALSO, UH, ADVISE US AS TO WHAT YOUR HOURS OF OPERATIONS WOULD BE? YES.
SO WE OPEN AT 7:30 AM EACH MORNING, EXCEPT SUNDAYS IS EIGHT.
WE CLOSE AT 8:00 PM SUNDAYS, WE CLOSE AT SEVEN, BUT AS SOON AS DAYLIGHT SAVING TIME, UH, SETS IN, WE'LL CLOSE AT 7:00 PM SO IT'S ABOUT 12 TO 13 HOURS PER DAY OR OUR OPERATING HOURS.
SOMEONE WILL COME ON STAFF ABOUT 30 MINUTES BEFORE OPENING JUST TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF OPENING UP THE CAR WASH.
AND THEN WE ALSO DO EXTENSIVE CLEANING AFTERWARDS.
AND SO TYPICALLY SOMEONE COULD BE THERE AS LATE AS NINE O'CLOCK OR SO.
BUT THERE WOULD THE, BUT IN ESSENCE, THEY WOULD JUST BE CLEANING.
SO IT WOULD NOT BE ABSOLUTELY, ALL THE EQUIPMENT IS TURNED OFF AT 8:00 PM THERE'S NOTHING HAPPENING THAT'S LOUD AT THAT POINT, OR THAT WOULD BE, UH, IN MY OPINION, YOU KNOW, UH, INVASIVE TO ANYONE AROUND THAT.
AND I THINK I NEED TO REPORT, I NEED TO ASK THIS NEXT QUESTION BACK TO SAM.
I DON'T KNOW THAT Y'ALL WOULD KNOW THIS ANSWER, ANSWER, BUT SAM, AS FAR AS THE LIGHT POLLUTION ISSUE, I ASSUME THAT THIS WOULD ALL BE COVERED BY, AND I FORGET WHAT IT IS THOUGH, THAT, THAT THE, THE, TO ENSURE THAT THE LIGHT CANOPY STAYS DIRECTLY ON THE PROPERTY AND DOES NOT.
I I KNOW YOU'VE TOLD US BEFORE, AND I'M SORRY, I JUST CANNOT REMEMBER THAT, THAT DISCUSSION.
UH, THOSE ARE FOUND IN OUR PERFORMANCE STANDARDS OF OUR COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE.
AND IT'S, UH, BASED ON THE FOOT CANDLE, UH, AT THE PROPERTY LAUNCH.
SO AS PART OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT, WE WOULD, JUST LIKE ANY OTHER DEVELOPMENT, WE WOULD ALSO CHECK TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR, THAT THEIR LIGHTING PLAN MEETS THAT MINIMUM, THE MAXIMUM THAT'S ALLOWED AT THE PROPERTY LINE.
I THINK THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS.
THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH FOR COMING UP.
MR. BARRIOS, I HAVE QUESTIONS IF Y'ALL WILL REMAIN UP.
BUT BEFORE I ASK, I GO TO YOU SAM, QUICK QUESTION THIS LOT, UH, TO THIS, TO THE SOUTH THAT I BELIEVE PEOPLE HAVE REFERRED TO AS THE SOCCER FIELD.
IS THIS JUST A UNDEVELOPED FIELD? IS THIS A DEDICATED SOCCER FIELD? IS THIS, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S DEDICATED, BUT I KNOW IT'S USED AS A SOCCER FACILITY.
IT'S OWNED BY THE STING SOCCER ORGANIZATION.
OF COURSE, YOU KNOW THAT, TO THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL.
I'M NOT SURPRISED THAT YOU HAD THAT INFORMATION.
SO, SO THE PURPOSE THAT IS A BUSINESS, IT'S NOT JUST LAND.
UM, QUESTIONS, YOU MENTIONED TANKS IN THE GROUND, THE TANKS GOING IN THE GROUND ARE, OTHER THAN WATER FILTRATION AND CLEANING SYSTEM, I'M ASSUMING YOU ORDER CHEMICALS IN BULK.
ARE THOSE IN UNDERGROUND TANKS? ARE THEY ABOVE STORAGE OR, YEAH.
SO HOW, HOW ARE YOUR CHEMICALS STORED AND CAN YOU SPEAK TO A LITTLE BIT, ARE THEY BIODEGRADABLE? WHAT CAN YOU TELL ME ABOUT CHEMICALS USED? SURE.
SO, UH, GREAT QUESTION REGARDING THE CHEMICALS.
THEY'RE DELIVERED TO THE STORE IN TWO AND A HALF GALLON CONTAINERS.
AND THEN THEY'RE STORED IN WHAT WE CALL THE EQUIPMENT ROOM, WHICH HEATHER, UH, REFERENCED IS WHERE THIS VACUUM PRODUCER IS.
AND SO WE STORE THEM INSIDE THAT, THAT PARTICULAR ROOM.
AND THEN WE FILL THESE TANKS, UM, THAT ARE HIGHER CAPACITY THAT ACTUALLY THEN DISTRIBUTE THE CHEMICALS ONTO THE VEHICLES AT DIFFERENT INTERVALS WITHIN THE CAR WASH.
WE ALL HAVE, UM, VERY STRICT GUIDELINES IN, IN TERMS OF WHAT IS IN THE CHEMICALS.
WE HAVE SAFETY DATA SHEETS IN EVERY SINGLE CAR WASH TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE WITHIN THE COMPLIANCE OF ANY KIND OF E P A ISSUES AND THAT SORT OF THING.
AND SO, AS FAR AS THE CHEMICALS ARE CONCERNED, UM, THEY'RE VERY SAFE, UH, IN, IN TERMS OF IF THEY WERE TO COME IN CONTACT, LIKE WITH YOUR SKIN AS AN EXAMPLE, THEY'RE NOT AGGRESSIVE, THEY'RE NOT ABRASIVE.
UM, AND THEY ARE NOT, UH, UH, PETROLEUM BASED.
UM, NOW, I MEAN, I'M SURE THEY'RE NOT DESIGNED TO BE INGESTED, BUT THEY ARE NOT HARMFUL IN THE FACT THAT WE ALLOW ALL TEAM MEMBERS TO HANDLE THEM IN A CAREFUL WAY EACH DAY.
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OKAY.I WOULD ASSUME, AND I THINK MOST OF US HAVE PROBABLY BEEN IN THIS PROBABLY ONE OF YOUR COMPETITORS BUSINESSES.
UM, I WOULD ASSUME THERE'S LIKE A SLANT OR PITCH WITHIN THE TUNNEL TO THAT'S EXACTLY THE WATER GOES RANK WELL, YES.
YOU HAVE A SIMILAR PITCH ON IN THE DRYING AREA, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR ANY RUNOFF THAT'S STILL ON THE CAR WHEN IT EXITS THE TUNNEL.
AS, YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
YOU RUN THE VACUUM AREA, TO YOUR POINT, THE, THE CENTER OF THE TUNNEL IS WHAT WE CALL THE PIT, AND IT'S SLOPED VERY SLIGHTLY ON BOTH SIDES.
AND SO TO YOUR POINT, WHEN YOU SEE THE WATER THAT'S BEING DISTRIBUTED ON THE VEHICLES, THEN YOU WILL SEE IT START TO RUN INTO THE CENTER, COLLECT IN THAT PIT THAT'S ABOUT TWO AND A HALF FEET DEEP.
THEN IT GOES TO THE OUTLETS THAT GO TO THOSE TANKS THAT I DESCRIBED EARLIER.
AND SO THAT, UH, PIT RUNS FROM THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE TUNNEL TO THE VERY END OF THE TUNNEL.
BUT AS FAR AS IN THE, UH, VACUUM AREA IS ITS THE PARKING LOT SLOPED OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT FOR ANY, YEAH, THE PARKING LOT WOULD BE SLOPED BASED ON THE CONDITIONS SET FORTH BY THE DEVELOPER AND WHAT WE ARE DOING WITH THE CITY TO MAKE SURE DRAINAGE IS SET UP PROPERLY.
WE HAVE, UH, UH, UNDERGROUND RETENTION AT SEVERAL OF OUR, UH, LOCATIONS.
WE HAVE SHEET DRAIN AND OTHERS RIGHT.
AT ALL THIS DICTATED BY THE CITY AND THE DEVELOPER AND HOW WE NEED TO STAY IN COMPLIANT WITH THAT.
AND ALL OF OURS ARE SET UP WITHIN THOSE GUIDELINES.
THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE FOR YOU.
I, I REALLY JUST WANT TO, UH, CONVEY SORT OF AN OBSERVATION AND THEN, AND THEN I HAVE A QUESTION.
ONE, I LIVE IN THIS AREA AND THAT'S MY DISTRICT.
AND I FREQUENT, UM, MOST OF THOSE ESTABLISHMENTS.
UM, AND THAT IS, WE'RE SO LIMITED ON LAND AT THIS POINT, ESPECIALLY IN THAT AREA.
AND HOW WE DEVELOP THAT AREA IS SUPER IMPORTANT TO ME AND, AND FOR THE CITY.
AND I'VE NOTICED AS, YOU KNOW, AS WE SHOP AT KROGER'S AND SOME OF THE FAST FOOD LOCATIONS, PLUS HAVING THE SOCCER FIELDS WHICH HAVE BEEN THERE, UM, WELL SINCE 1972, THE, THERE'S, I'VE NOTICED A LOT OF TRAFFIC DURING THAT SEASON THAT PEOPLE ARE PARKING.
THEY USE THE PARK, THEY USE THE KROGER'S PARKING LOT, THEY PARK IN THE GRASS.
'CAUSE THERE'S A LITTLE, THERE USED TO BE A ROAD, I THINK IT WAS CALLED WHITEHALL, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, UM, DOWN THE SIDE OF THE, THE SOCCER FIELD, UH, BETWEEN THAT LAND WHERE THE CULVERT IS AND USED TO BE ABLE TO GO THROUGH THERE, WHICH IS REALLY NICE.
AND NOW THERE'S THE TOWN HOMES.
UH, BUT PEOPLE STILL UTILIZE THAT.
AND I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH OF THAT WOULD BE TAKEN AND IF THAT WOULD CONTINUE TO BE LIKE A GRASSY AREA, UM, BEHIND WHERE YOU'RE SHOWING, UH, THE VER WHERE ACTUALLY YOU HAVE LIKE A CUT IN ON THE BACKSIDE THERE, WHICH IS WHERE THE KROGER'S, UM, BUILDING IS.
BUT I'M JUST WONDERING HOW MUCH PARKING'S GONNA BE ALLOWED FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE PLAYING SOCCER.
'CAUSE IT'S USUALLY VERY CROWDED.
YOU HAVE A LOT OF TRAFFIC AT KROGER'S, UH, ON A REGULAR BASIS.
YOU ALSO HAVE A LIQUOR STORE THERE ON THE CORNER.
SO YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF TRAFFIC COMING IN AND OUT OF THAT MAIN ENTRY.
AND THEN YOU HAVE THE CUT THROUGH THERE, UH, ON THE TOP WHERE THE RED LINE IS OF GOING BACK AND FORTH TO THE, UH, UH, TO THE FAST FOOD, UH, LOCATIONS.
SO I GUESS MY CONCERN IS, ONE, THE TRAFFIC ADDING MORE AND MORE TRAFFIC.
AND SINCE IT IS OPEN FOR 12 HOURS, AND AGAIN, AS MUCH AS I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A CAR WASH AND WE, WE, YOU KNOW, WE CERTAINLY COULD ALWAYS USE A CAR WASH.
I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT HOW WE'RE REPURPOSING THAT LAND AND THE WAY IT'S POSITIONED ON THE PROPERTY.
'CAUSE YOU HAVE TO COME INTO THE, THE LAND ITSELF AND, AND YOU'VE GOT, YOU HAVE THIS CLUSTER OF CARS AND YOU'VE ALREADY GOT A LOT OF TRAFFIC COMING IN FROM, UH, KROGER'S AND THE INTAKE FROM THE OPPOSITE SIDE.
SO I'M ONLY JUST SAYING THIS TO, JUST TO VOICE THE OPINION OUT LOUD.
UM, IT'S NOT REALLY A QUESTION.
I'M JUST AS, AS AN OBSERVATION.
I MEAN, I'VE BEEN IN THAT AREA FOR OVER 23 YEARS.
I'VE WATCHED THE TRAFFIC, I'VE WATCHED IT DEVELOP, AND I'VE SEEN SOME OF THE, UM, THE, THE NEW BUILDINGS GET REFURBISHED.
AND I'VE JUST NOTICED THAT THERE'S JUST A LOT OF CONGESTION AT THE MOMENT.
AND WE ARE TRYING TO ELEVATE THAT AREA AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
AND I JUST, YOU KNOW, MY CONCERN IS, IS HOW WE'RE REPURPOSING THE LAND.
UM, THE OTHER THING WAS, UH, AGAIN, MY, MY TWO THINGS WAS TRAFFICKING THE NOISE AND THE LIGHT POLLUTION.
AND, YOU KNOW, I'M IN THE DESIGN
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BUILD BUSINESS AND LIGHTING'S SUPER, SUPER IMPORTANT.AND I DO KNOW THAT THE FOOT CANDLES OF A CERTAIN TYPE, AND DEPENDING ON THE FIXTURE AND HOW THAT CANOPY, UH, IS SET, CAN ILLUMINATE, YOU KNOW, LIGHTING, YOU KNOW, INAPPROPRIATELY OR APPROPRIATELY.
AND SINCE YOU'RE KINDA LANDLOCKED IN THAT AREA, YOU'VE GOT A LITTLE OVERFLOW OF LIGHTING FROM THE KROGER'S PARKING LOT.
AND THEN OF COURSE YOU HAVE THE DAYCARE CENTER ON THE BACKSIDE.
AND THEN THAT TAKES ME BACK TO MY LANDSCAPING ISSUE.
IN THE EVENT THAT THIS WAS APPROVED, YOU WOULD HAVE THE AREA THERE.
HOW WOULD IT LOOK WHEN YOU WALK IN OR WHEN YOU DRIVE INTO ONE THE KROGER PARKING LOT OR ANY OF THOSE FACILITIES, ARE WE JUST GONNA SEE ANOTHER SEA OF CONCRETE AND ANOTHER SEA OF BUILDINGS THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THOSE? AND AGAIN, IT'S NOT A QUESTION, I JUST WANT IT, I WANT IT OUT THERE SO PEOPLE CAN HEAR IT.
'CAUSE I, I SEE THIS ALL THE TIME AND, AND YES, I DO USE CAR WASHES AND I LOVE THIS.
AND I'VE ACTUALLY USED THIS TYPE OF FACILITY A NUMBER OF TIMES.
IT'S, IT'S MORE SELF-SERVE ISH MM-HMM.
BUT THOSE ARE JUST MY BIG CONCERNS RIGHT NOW.
AND I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.
CAN I, CAN I ADDRESS IT? YES, PLEASE, PLEASE DO.
SO AS FAR AS THE, THE LIGHTING, I MEAN THAT IS A BIG PART OF, OF STAFF WHEN THEY REVIEW ALL OF OUR, ALL OF OUR ITEMS. I MEAN, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO SHOW THE FOOT CANDLES.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO SHOW, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH LIGHT THAT THERE'S NOT BLEED OVER THE PROPERTY LINES.
UM, I CAN TELL YOU, I MEAN, WITH THE HOURS THAT WE HAVE, I MEAN, THE LIGHTS, THERE'S NOT GONNA BE A BUNCH OF LIGHTS ON ALL NIGHT.
IT'S NOT GONNA BE LIKE THE FAST FOOD WHERE YOU HAVE THE DRIVE THROUGH AND ALL THE LIGHTS IN THE PARKING LOT ARE ALL ON.
UM, AS FAR AS THE TRAFFIC, UM, I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, IT'S ZONED, THEY COULD PUT A 15,000 SQUARE FOOT STRIP CENTER THERE WITH MULTIPLE RESTAURANTS.
AND SO INSTEAD OF HAVING A 15,000 SQUARE FOOT STRIP WITH DIFFERENT RESTAURANTS AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE'S A LOT OF USES THAT ARE, THAT ARE ALLOWED RIGHT NOW.
IT JUST SO HAPPENS OURS ISN'T, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE COMING IN AND, AND ASKING FOR THIS.
BUT, UM, I MEAN, IN MY MIND, GROCERY STORES AND CAR WASHES REALLY GO TOGETHER.
I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S VERY, UM, IT, IT JUST IT'S COHESIVE, IT WORKS IT THERE, THERE'S SYNERGY IN THERE.
YOU GO TO THE CAR WASH AND THEN YOU GO OVER AND YOU GET YOUR GROCERIES.
AND SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE KNOCKING TWO BIRDS OUT WITH ONE STONE.
IT'S JUST RUNNING YOUR ERRANDS.
AND AS FAR AS BEING LANDLOCKED PER SE, I MEAN, THIS SITE HAS MANY MORE INGRESS AND EGRESS POINTS COMPARED TO A LOT OF OUR SITES THAT JUST HAVE, YOU KNOW, ONE OFF THE MAIN ROAD.
SO AS FAR AS AS SPREADING THE TRAFFIC OUT AND COMING AND GOING IN DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS, I PREFER SOMETHING LIKE THIS BECAUSE WE DO HAVE MULTIPLE POINTS.
AND SO IT'S NOT EVERYBODY FUNNELED INTO ONE SPOT.
THEY'RE GOING OUT AND THEY'RE GOING DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS.
AND AS FAR AS THE, THE SOCCER FIELDS, UM, I CAN TELL YOU I FREQUENT ONE EVERY SINGLE WEEKEND.
AND, UM, AND THEY ARE, THEY'RE BUSY.
BUT NO MATTER WHAT GOES HERE, THE SOCCER FIELDS, THEY'RE GONNA HURT FOR PARKING.
AND, AND IT'S JUST, IT'S THE NATURE OF THE BEAST.
UM, THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PARKING OF THEIR OWN.
AND SO RIGHT NOW, I CAN TELL YOU THE OWNERS ARE REALLY TIRED OF IT BEING FULL OF CARS AND TRASH.
I CAN TELL YOU THE AMOUNT OF DEBRIS THAT I'VE SEEN IN PICTURES FROM THE OWNERS.
THEY'RE REALLY SICK OF OWNING A PIECE OF GROUND THAT EVERYONE USES FOR FREE AND JUST THROWS THEIR GARBAGE ALL OVER THE PLACE.
SO, I MEAN, WE'RE GOING TO REALLY FRESHEN UP THAT AREA.
THE, UM, THE CHILDCARE, HE'S A HUNDRED PERCENT ON BOARD.
HE SIGNED OFF ON US DOING THE REPL.
SO I MEAN, WE HAD TO GET HIS APPROVAL AND HE WAS HAPPY TO HAVE SOMETHING THERE THAT HE KNOWS THERE'S GONNA BE EMPLOYEES WALKING AROUND.
THERE'S GONNA BE PEOPLE PICKING UP TRASH OUTTA THE PARKING LOT INSTEAD OF IT JUST KIND OF BEING A DUMP FREE FOR ALL, WHERE EVERYONE'S JUST THROWING THEIR GARBAGE OUT THEIR CAR WINDOW.
UM, I'VE HEARD MULTIPLE STORIES OF CARS PULLING UP AND KIDS JUMPING OUT AND CHICK-FIL-A FALLING ALL OVER THE GROUND AND, AND THEN THE LAWNMOWER COMING AND MOWING IT UP, AND PIECES FLYING EVERYWHERE.
AND IT'S, IT'S GOING TO BENEFIT THIS AREA AND IT'S GOING TO BE BENEFICIAL FOR ALL OF THE ESTABLISHMENTS IN THERE, I BELIEVE.
UM, AS FAR AS LOITERING AND THINGS LIKE THAT, I MEAN, WE HAVE EMPLOYEES ON STAFF ALL THE TIME THAT ARE ON SITE.
WE HAVE A MANAGER THAT'S WORKING IN THE OFFICE AND WE HAVE SOMEONE STANDING OUT AT THE POINT OF SALE.
THERE'S SOMEBODY STANDING AT THE BEGINNING OF THE TUNNEL AND THERE'S SOMEBODY WALKING AROUND.
THEY SUPPLY, UM, TOWELS TO DRY YOUR CAR OFF.
UH, THEY DO HAVE AMAZING BLOWERS AT THE END, I CAN TELL YOU THAT.
DO A HECK OF A JOB GETTING THE WATER OFF.
SO AS FAR AS WATER COLLECTING IN THE PARKING LOT, YOU REALLY DON'T SEE IT.
AND WE, WE WOULDN'T WANT IT AS THE DEVELOPER BECAUSE,
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YOU KNOW, OUR CLIENT IS VOICED.THE WORST THING YOU WANNA DO IS GO THROUGH THE CAR WASH AND THEN HAVE A BUNCH OF WATER ALL OVER THE PARKING LOT.
YOU'RE NICE CLEAN CAR, YOU'RE PULLING OFF AND YOU'RE DRIVING THROUGH A BUNCH OF WATER THAT'S DIRTY THAT FELL OFF OF OTHER CARS.
SO THAT'S WHY THEY MAKE SURE THEY TAKE CARE OF IT INSIDE THE TUNNEL.
UM, I CAN TELL YOU I'M A MEMBER, THEY OPENED ONE CLOSE TO ME AND VERY SIMILAR TO THIS LAYOUT IN FRONT OF A KROGER.
AND, UM, AND IT WORKS FANTASTICALLY.
I MEAN, THE, THE TUNNELS FACING OUT TOWARDS THE STREET.
SO REALLY ANY NOISE THAT YOU'RE GONNA GET IS COMING OUT THE END OF THAT TUNNEL TOWARDS THE MAIN DRIVE.
SO AS FAR AS POSITIONING AND THE WAY THE SITE PLAN'S LAID OUT, IT REALLY IS FANTASTIC AS FAR AS ANY OF THE NEGATIVES THAT PEOPLE WOULD THINK ABOUT A CAR WASH, BECAUSE IT IS DIRECTED OUT TOWARDS THE STREET WHERE THE CARS ARE.
UM, WE DID ADD SOME WINDOWS TO THE END OF THE BUILDING, WHICH IS PART OF THE MECHANICAL, UM, ELECTRICAL ROOM.
SO THERE'S SPANDREL, BUT, UM, WE WERE REQUESTED BY STAFF TO ADD SOME WINDOWS ON THE END.
SO WE DID THAT AND WE DID ANOTHER CANOPY ADD TO IT.
UM, YOU KNOW, THEY MENTIONED WHAT THE BUILDING IS BUILT OUT OF.
IT'S, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING.
LIKE IT'S, I'M VERY PROUD TO BUILD THIS, THIS STRUCTURE.
IT'S GOT NICE GOOD LOOKING TOWERS AT THE END.
ARCHITECTURALLY, IT'S DESIGNED, UM, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE YOUR TYPICAL CAR WASH AS FAR AS ALL THE WINDOWS THAT ARE ON IT.
AND THE STAFF THAT, THAT THEY KEEP, I LIKE TO COMPARE IT TO LIKE A CHICK-FIL-A OF CAR WASHES, JUST BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF AMAZING.
I MEAN, THE STAFF'S SUPER NICE, JUST LIKE THEY ALL ARE AT CHICK-FIL-A AND THEY'RE WALKING AROUND AND THEY'RE HELPING YOU AND, UM, AND THEY'RE MONITORING WHAT'S GOING ON, SO PEOPLE AREN'T GONNA LOITER AND HANG OUT AND DO THOSE THINGS.
'CAUSE IT'S NOT A PLACE FOR THAT.
SO THE CANOPIES, IT'S NOT LIKE THE OLD CAR WASHES WHERE YOU HAVE THE WALLS AND PEOPLE CAN HIDE AND DISAPPEAR.
IT'S VERY OPEN AND ANYTHING THAT IS BEHIND A WALL HAS, HAS DOORS THAT COME DOWN.
SO THERE'S NOWHERE FOR PEOPLE TO, TO LOITER AND HANG OUT AND DO THINGS THEY SHOULDN'T BE DOING.
UM, AS, AS THEY SAID, WE ARE ADDING A BUNCH OF HEDGES ALONG THERE.
AND I CAN TELL YOU, I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF GREEN SPACE ON THIS ONE.
UM, WE FIT ON ONE ACRE, AND IF IT WAS ONE OF THE ONE ACRE SITES, YEAH, THERE WOULDN'T BE A WHOLE LOT OF GREEN SPACE.
BUT THIS ONE, WE HAVE A LOT OF GREEN SPACE ON IT, AND WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT LOOK NICE.
IS THE GREEN AREA ILLUSTRATED IN THIS GRAPHIC? IS THAT ARTIFICIAL TURF? IS IT? NO, IT'S, NO, THAT'S SHOWING WHERE GRASS AND PLANTINGS ARE GONNA BE.
I MEAN, THERE'LL BE BEDS, WHATEVER THAT, BUT IT'LL BE, YOU KNOW, DECOMPOSED GRANITE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO THEY'RE GONNA BE MORE TEXAS HEAT TOLERANCE, DROUGHT FRIENDLY.
AND SO AGAIN, I MEAN, THAT SAVES WATER AND THAT'S GOOD FOR EVERYBODY.
BUT, UM, BUT YEAH, ALL THAT GREEN AREA IS WHERE WE HAVE SOMETHING PLANTING WISE.
SO I GUESS THE GRASS WILL TERMINATE DIRECTLY INTO THE CONCRETE SLAB AT KROGER'S.
BASICALLY, THEY'LL JUST WRAP AND TERMINATE IN THAT ENTIRE AREA THERE, I'M GUESSING.
AND MUCH, I MEAN, THEY'LL BE CURBS AND, AND THE SELLERS WERE EXTREMELY DILIGENT ABOUT, AND WHEN WE FIRST DID THE SITE PLAN, MAKING SURE THAT ALL THE DRIVES, THAT IT WAS COHESIVE, THAT IT FLOWED WELL.
UM, I WANNA SAY WE DID LIKE 12 DIFFERENT
AND THAT WAS A GOOD THING BECAUSE WE ENDED UP WITH SOMETHING THAT, THAT REALLY WORKS.
THAT'S GOING TO FLOW NICELY, THAT'S GONNA HAVE THAT INGRESS AND EGRESS WHERE YOU'RE NOT GONNA FEEL LIKE YOU'RE BOTTLENECK AND STOP.
WELL, I APPRECIATE YOUR PASSION AND, UH, AND I APPRECIATE YOU EXPLAINING THAT.
UH, A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR Y'ALL.
UM, THE FIRST ONE IS I, WHY FOR THE UNDERGROUND FILTRATION SYSTEM? UM, I DID, I, I'LL ADMIT BEFORE I ASK ANY OTHER QUESTION, BY THE WAY, UH, I'M OBVIOUSLY NOT AN EXPERT ON CAR WASHES, BUT I'VE DONE AT LEAST A COUPLE DAYS WORTH OF RESEARCH.
SO I'LL, IF I SAY SOMETHING WEIRD, IT'S NOT IN, I'M NOT TRYING TO SOUND LIKE I'M SMARTER THAN I AM HERE, BUT, UM, BUT FOR THE UNDERGROUND FILTRATION, WHY UNDERGROUND FILTRATION SYSTEMS INSTEAD OF ABOVE GROUND WITH TREATING WATER? IT'S THE NATURAL FLOW OF WHERE IT ALL GOES.
UM, SO YOU'VE GOT THAT TRENCH AND THEN YOU HAVE PIPES THAT COME OUT OF THE TRENCH, AND YOU'VE GOTTA EVENTUALLY GET TO THAT UNDERGROUND SYSTEM TO GET RID OF THE WATER.
SO UNDERGROUND EVERYTHING'S FLOWING DOWN AND IT, YOU'D HAVE TO PUMP IT UP.
IT, IT WOULD BE SOMETHING ELSE THAT COULD BREAK.
IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD JUST BE A HARDER PROCESS AS FAR AS TAKING CARE OF THE WATER.
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EVERY SYSTEM THAT I KNOW OF THAT WE'VE RESEARCHED ARE THESE UNDERGROUND SYSTEMS. OKAY.AND AGAIN, LIKE THEY'RE MULTIPLE TANKS.
SO YOU'VE GOT THE FIRST PROCESS AND THE SECOND AND THE THIRD, AND THEN, SO THAT WAY IT GETS CLEANER AND CLEANER AS IT GOES.
AND I UNDERSTAND AND, AND MY RESEARCH SHOWED THE SAME THING.
IT'S, UM, BUT YEAH, NO, I MEAN, BUT BUT ABOVE GROUND DO EXIST AS WELL.
THEY'RE JUST NOT AS, LIKE YOU SAID, THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT VERY PREVALENT.
CAR WASHES, I MEAN, TELL YOU THE UNDERGROUND SYSTEM, THEY'RE EXTREMELY PRICEY.
I MEAN, IT'S, I'M SURE IT'S AN EXPENSIVE SYSTEM AND MM-HMM.
CAN YOU, THE UNDERGROUND TANK THAT STORES SORT OF THE, UH, SLUDGE AND THE STUFF THAT'S FILTERED OUT BEFORE IT HITS OUR WASTEWATER SYSTEM MM-HMM.
WHAT'S THE CAPACITY SAFEGUARDS KIND OF STUFF? I DON'T KNOW.
I MEAN, WHAT DO YOU GUYS YEAH, I MEAN, IT'S MADE BY A COMPANY CALLED PARK, U S A.
UM, WE HELPED, UH, THEY HELPED US UNDERSTAND WHICH ONES WOULD BE BEST FOR THIS PARTICULAR USE.
UM, THEY'RE MADE OF EXTREMELY STRONG MATERIAL.
UM, THEY'RE CUSTOM MADE AND THEN DELIVERED ON SITE.
SO AS FAR AS LIKE ANY OTHER DESIGN ELEMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, I'M NOT SUPER FAMILIAR WITH IT.
I JUST KNOW THAT THEY, THEY PRODUCE AND USE THESE IN SEVERAL DIFFERENT CAR WASHES.
SO I KIND OF HAVE A LITTLE BREAKDOWN, LIKE TANK ONE.
SO TANK ONE IS A SOLID SEPARATOR.
SO SOAP, WAX, SAND, GRIT ARE ALL REMOVED.
SO THEY'RE HELD OFF TO THE SIDE.
THEY'RE NOT GETTING DISPOSED IN ANY SYSTEM.
THAT STUFF GETS, THAT'S WHAT YOU GUYS CHECK OUT.
SO THAT ONE, UH, FILTERED WATER IS TREATED WITH OZONE TO REUSE IT.
UM, TANK THREE IS RECYCLED WATER, SO WATER TREATED THROUGH A REVERSE OSMOSIS SYSTEM, UM, AN OZA NATION
AND THAT AT THAT POINT, THE RECLAIMED WATER ENTERS BACK INTO THE CAR WASH.
SO IT SAYS, ANY UNUSABLE WATER IS FILTERED THROUGH AN OIL SEPARATOR MM-HMM.
SO ANY WATER THAT'S LEFT THAT CAN BE DISCHARGED IS AT THAT POINT.
AND THEN THE STUFF THAT ISN'T, IS HELD IN THAT TANK, AND THAT'S WHERE THE COMPANIES THAT COME OUT AND THEY PUMP IT ALL OUT AND TAKE IT AWAY.
PROBABLY MORE THAN YOU WANTED TO KNOW, BUT NO, IT'S ACTUALLY, I, YOU KNOW, I REALLY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT Y'ALL UNDERSTOOD WHAT YOU WERE BUILDING.
PEOPLE PRESENTING TO US UNDERSTOOD.
BECAUSE THOSE UNDERGROUND STORAGE TANKS ARE, UM, IN A LOT OF COMMUNITIES, THEY STAY THERE FOR A LONG TIME.
THEY CHANGED THE PROPERTY INDEFINITELY MM-HMM.
AND IF, YOU KNOW, MY, MY GOAL THERE WASN'T SAYING THAT I KNOW ABOUT IT.
IT WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE PRESENTING KNEW WHAT THEY WERE PUTTING INTO OUR CITY.
UM, SO I SUPPOSE WITH, WITH THAT SAID, UH, AS FAR AS, UM, CLEARWATER, EXPRESS'S MM-HMM.
HE'S OUT THERE LOOKING FOR SITES.
BUT, UM, CURRENTLY WE HAVE 12 OR 13 OPEN.
UM, THE HEADQUARTERS IS IN HOUSTON, SO THERE'S A BULK OF THEM DOWN THERE.
UM, WE'RE NOT GONNA GO WHERE THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF CAR WASHES.
WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO BE NEXT DOOR TO ANOTHER ONE.
SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR SPACES WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A RADIUS WHERE THERE'S NOT A LOT OF COMPETITION MM-HMM.
WE'D LOOK IN RICHARDSON SOMEWHERE ELSE IF WE CAN FIND A PERFECT SPOT MM-HMM.
AND, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S OPEN TO, TO DOING A CAR WASH.
BUT I CAN TELL YOU WE'VE HAD TO REZONE QUITE A FEW.
WE'VE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL IN DOING IT.
UM, IT'S, IT'S A GOOD COMPANY.
I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S A NICE SOLID COMPANY.
THEY'RE HERE FOR THE, YOU KNOW, THE LONG HAUL.
TEXAS AND, AND THE BULK OF ALL OF 'EM ARE THERE.
SO, SO I MEAN, WHAT ABOUT THE NORTH TEXAS MARKET SPECIFICALLY MAKES SENSE TO Y'ALL TO EXPAND HERE? UM, ASIDE FROM THE, THE LACK OF PERCEIVED COMPETITION? YEAH.
SO, UM, I MEAN, JUST THE GROWTH.
THE GROWTH, LIKE ANYBODY ELSE, EVERYBODY WANTS TO BE PART OF NORTH TEXAS.
THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE MOVING IN AND THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT OPENINGS.
IT'S, IT'S GREAT AGAIN, BECAUSE THERE ISN'T A LOT OF COMPETITION IN HERE, AND THEN THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE MM-HMM.
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YOU KNOW, THE SYNERGY WITH THE GROCERY STORE AND A CAR WASH REALLY MAKES SENSE.HAVING THE GAS STATION RIGHT THERE MM-HMM.
SO I CAN TELL YOU, YOU KNOW, I'M A MOM THAT GOES TO A LOT OF SOCCER FIELDS, AND IF I CAN GET THREE THINGS DONE ON ONE TRIP AND BE DONE, THAT'S WHAT I'D RATHER DO.
SO, UM, YEAH, WE WANNA BE BY THE HOMES PEOPLE, FREQUENT THINGS THAT ARE BY THEIR HOUSE, SO MM-HMM.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE PARTNERED QUITE A FEW TIMES AND STILL HAVE QUITE A FEW MORE, YOU KNOW, WITH THE KROGERS MM-HMM.
I THINK MY LAST QUESTION IS LIKE ONE, AND PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST CRITICAL QUESTIONS FOR ME IS, YOU KNOW, WHY FOR THE, THIS IS REALLY MORE FOR THE, FOR PROPERTY OWNER, BUT I MEAN, WHY HAS THIS, WHY HASN'T ANYTHING BEEN BUILT ON THIS PLOT OF LAND BEFORE? YEAH.
'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW
I'M HERE WITH MY PARTNER SCOTT MUELLER.
WE'VE BEEN THE FORTUNATE OWNERS OF THIS PROPERTY ADDRESS.
6 4 1 7 VICKY LANE, PLANO, TEXAS.
WE'VE BEEN THE PROUD OWNERS OF THIS PROPERTY FOR ALMOST 17 YEARS NOW.
UM, THE DESIGN WAS TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY.
WE BOTH HAVE 35 YEARS PLUS EACH IN THE RETAIL SHOPPING CENTER REAL ESTATE BUSINESS.
I ACTUALLY SAT ON A PANEL ADVISORY PANEL FOR THE CITY OF RICHARDSON FOR REVITALIZATION OF DECLINING RETAIL PROPERTIES THROUGHOUT THE CITY BACK IN THE NINETIES.
AND OUR IDEA WAS TO BUILD A SHOPPING CENTER, BUILD A MULTI-TENANT STRIP, AND LEASE IT TO A VARIETY OF TENANTS, MUCH LIKE YOU SEE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, IT'S TAKEN A LONG TIME TO FIND WHAT WE THOUGHT WOULD BE A IDEAL FIT FOR THE PROPERTY.
WE CAN'T JUST PUT ANYTHING ON IT.
WE HAVE A HISTORY OF EXTREME SUCCESS IN RETAIL SHOPPING CENTER BUSINESS, SO WE KNOW WHAT WORKS, WHAT DOESN'T WORK.
I BROUGHT, I REPRESENT WHOLE FOODS.
I BROUGHT THEM TO RICHARDSON AS A A POINT OF MANY OTHER RETAILERS AND RESTAURANTS THAT WE'VE BROUGHT INTO THE CITY AS WELL.
SO WE'RE SENSITIVE TO THE USE.
WE DO BELIEVE THE, THE CAR WASH USE IS A VIABLE USE FOR THE PROPERTY.
AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, WE CANNOT CONTINUE TO LET THIS SOCCER FIELD PARK ON THIS LOT.
WE'VE BEEN VERY RELAXED ABOUT IT.
UM, BUT IT'S, IT'S GOTTEN OUTTA HAND AND WE JUST CAN'T AFFORD TO MAINTAIN THE TRASH PICKUP.
THE, THE, EXCUSE ME, THE, UH, CHILDCARE NEXT DOOR IS ON BOARD WITH WHAT WE'VE DONE.
WE BUILT THAT CHILDCARE FOR RAMESH AND HIS SISTER.
THEY'RE TOTALLY ON BOARD WITH OUR USE, AS IS KROGER.
AND IF WE HAD OTHER USES THAT WE FELT WERE VIABLE, WE WOULD'VE BUILT THEM BY NOW.
WE'VE HAD PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR OTHER USES.
WE KNOW THE RISK AND REWARD OF RETAIL, REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT, AND WE PASSED ON EVERYTHING UP UNTIL THIS POINT.
SO IT'S, IT'S A GOOD USE TO HER POINT, IT'S VERY SYNERGISTIC WITH GROCERY STORE CENTERS, MULTI-TENANT RETAIL, THE DAYCARE NEXT DOOR, THE RESTAURANTS OUT FRONT, IT, IT'S A GOOD FIT FROM A USE STANDPOINT FOR THE MIX OF THAT PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT.
THANK YOU, MS. JUSTICE, DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT OR QUESTION? NO, NOT, NO.
MR. BARRIOS, UM, QUESTION THE TANKS.
YOU SAID YOU THAT GO UNDERGROUND.
ARE THESE A POLY, LIKE PLASTIC TYPE TANK WATER TANK? OR ARE THESE CONCRETE, WHAT ARE THEY? THEY'RE CONCRETE.
AND YOU GUYS ARE ALL CORPORATELY OWNED? THIS IS NOT A FRANCHISE OR, MM-HMM.
THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE.
MAYOR, IF THERE'S NO MORE QUESTIONS, I'D LIKE, OH, I GOT ONE QUESTION, THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU.
UM, SAM, WOULD YOU PUT SLIDE, LEMME IT'S 17.
I SEE A LOT OF TREES AND I KNOW THAT OUR COMMUNITY LOVES THEIR TREES.
BUT ARE THEY FAR ENOUGH AWAY FROM ANY OF THESE WHERE YOU WOULD CONSIDER SAVING SOME OF THOSE HARDWOODS? OR ARE THEY DISEASED OR, WE HAVE ISSUES WITH 'EM OTHER THAN THEY JUST ARE TREES.
UM, I CAN TELL YOU THAT BECAUSE OF
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THE PARTICULARNESS OF THE INGRESS, THE EGRESS, THE DRY VILES, EVERYTHING BEING POSITIONED, UM, REALLY TO MAKE EVERYTHING WORK THE BEST POSSIBLE, THE BULK OF THEM AREN'T GONNA BE ABLE TO BE SAVED BECAUSE OF THE VACUUMS, THE BUILDING WHERE WE HAD TO PUT EVERYTHING, THE POINTS OF INGRESS AND EGRESS.BUT I CAN TELL YOU WE'RE GOING BACK WITH A LOT.
I MEAN, AS FAR AS THE LANDSCAPING, UM, YOU KNOW, AS MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, NO TREES THOUGH, THERE BUSHES THAT ARE GOING BACK IN AND DIFFERENT TYPES OF THINGS.
IS THAT ACCURATE? UM, WE HAVE SOME TREES.
JUST, JUST NOT IN THE VACUUM AREA.
I KNOW THERE'S TREES REQUIRED.
ONE, ONE LAST QUESTION FROM ME.
IN LOOKING AT THE MAP, THE ENTRANCE AROUND THE PROPERTY ITSELF, I KNOW THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL CAR WASHES THAT PUT UP BIG ARMS. MM-HMM.
BUT ARE YOU GONNA PREVENT PEOPLE FROM USING IT AS JUST A PARKING LOT OR USING IT TO THAT TYPE THING? I WAS GONNA SAY, IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE ALWAYS DO 'CAUSE WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE PROBLEM.
UM, IF WE HAD A PROBLEM, WE WOULD, I MEAN, OF COURSE WE WOULDN'T WANT PEOPLE PARKING IN THERE.
UM, I CAN'T IMAGINE IT'S NOT SOMETHING OPERATIONALLY THAT IF IT WAS REQUIRED, WE WOULD HAVE A PROBLEM WITH DOING IT.
UM, BUT WE DON'T HAVE IT RIGHT NOW.
SO, AS AN EXAMPLE, WHEN WE CLOSE, WE PUT OUT BLUE CONES AT THE ENTRANCES.
SO THAT PEOPLE CAN'T COME IN WHILE WE'RE FINISHING OUR NIGHTLY DUTIES.
THOSE STAY UP THROUGHOUT THE EVENING UNTIL EARLY MORNING.
I GUESS TO YOUR POINT, IF WE SAW THAT SOMEONE WAS WISHING TO USE OUR PROPERTY FOR SOMETHING ELSE AFTER HOURS, WE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT AND COME, MAYBE COME BACK TO THE CITY AND ASK FOR HELP ON WHAT YOU WOULD RECOMMEND WE WOULD DO.
BUT, UH, OUR INTENTIONS ARE NOT TO HAVE PEOPLE EITHER PEDESTRIANS OR IN VEHICLES ON OUR PROPERTY.
BUT OF COURSE, AS SOON AS WE SAY IT, WE'VE NEVER HAD IT HAPPEN.
YOU KNOW, YOU'LL SEND ME PICTURES THAT MAYBE IT IS HAPPENING, WHICH WE WOULD ADDRESS THAT WE HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD NOT WANT THAT TO HAPPEN.
WELL, PART OF MY QUESTION IS, IS YOU ADDRESS THE SOCCER FIELD MM-HMM.
AND IF THEY'RE ON YOUR PROPERTY NOW, AND AS SOON AS YOU CLOSE, THEY HAVE LIGHTS THAT GO INTO THE NIGHT AND THEY HAVE PRACTICES, THEY HAVE GAMES AND DIFFERENT THINGS.
SO MY QUESTION IS, IF THEY'RE GONNA FIND A PLACE TO PARK, IT MIGHT BE IN YOUR DRIVEWAYS, IS ALL I'M SAYING.
AND THAT MIGHT BE REASON ENOUGH POSSIBLY TO PUT SOMETHING UP.
THAT THEY WOULD CLOSE IT AT NIGHT.
JUST SO YOU DON'T HAVE PEOPLE RUNNING INTO THINGS AND RUNNING INTO THE VACUUM CANOPIES AND THE BUILDINGS AND ALL THOSE FUN THINGS.
BUT DEFINITELY IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE ADDRESSED IF IT WAS A PROBLEM, A PROBLEM.
I THINK THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS.
MR. HUTCHIN, WRITER, YOU HAVE A MOTION.
MAYOR, IF THERE'S NO MORE QUESTIONS, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
MR. ORPHAN, UH, I SECOND IT, BUT I HOPE WE HAVE A OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE, UH, COMMENTS RIGHT NOW.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR OF CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ALRIGHT, THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
I WOULD OPEN IT UP FOR ANY COUNCIL DISCUSSION AT THIS TIME.
ANYONE HAVE COMMENTS? MAYOR PRO TEM? WELL, I MEAN, WE DO HAVE SIMILAR CASE CAME IN THAT AREA IN 2019.
UH, IT WAS TWO THREE LAWS DOWN THAT LOCATION, AND THERE WAS EXTENSIVE DISCUSSION.
I WAS NOT ON THE COUNCIL THAT TIME, BUT I DID, UH, FOLLOW UP THAT TIME.
AND I DID LISTEN TO THE C P C MEETING THIS TIME.
I LOOKED AT THE VIDEO AND I LOOKED AT THEIR QUESTION, BUT IT, IT LOOKS LIKE STILL, YOU KNOW, I SEE THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL CREATE, UM, UH, HAVE SOME NEG NEGATIVE IMPACT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN THAT AREA.
UH, SO, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT INCLUDES TRAFFIC NOISE.
UH, I'M NOT TOO CONCERNED ABOUT THE LIGHT, BUT THE TRAFFIC NOISE WOULD BE AN HUGE ISSUE THERE.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT 70 CARS THERE SITTING THERE, UH, IF IT WAS ALL ELECTRIC, I WOULD CONSIDER THIS, BUT WITH THAT MUCH POLLUTION COMING OUT FROM THOSE CAR, UH, IT'S CONCERNING FOR THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
BUT AFTER MAYBE 10 YEARS, WE WILL HAVE ELECTRIC CAR AND THEN WE'LL CONSIDER, UH, THIS KIND OF DEVELOPMENT MORE.
BUT THAT WOULD NOT REDUCE THE TRAFFIC ISSUE IN THE FUTURE EITHER.
BUT ANYWAY, I'M, I'M BY CONSIDERING LISTENING ALL THOSE QUESTION AND ANSWER AND LISTENING TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND, UH, HEARING FROM, UH, THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN
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BOTH, UH, UH, H O A AND ALSO, UH, THE BIG NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION THAT'S ON THE HIGHLAND TERRA.UH, I WOULD, I'M, I'M CONSIDERING THIS THING NOT TO SUPPORT THIS NIGHT.
UM, I DIDN'T REALLY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
I WAS JUST SORT OF LISTENING TO THE OTHERS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP.
I'VE BEEN SITTING HERE STRUGGLING A LITTLE BIT BETWEEN WANTING THIS PROPERTY OWNER AND THESE DEVELOPERS TO, UM, BE ABLE TO USE THE LAND AS THEY SEE FIT.
UM, AND THEN ALSO BEING THE COUNCIL MEMBER WHO SHOUTS THE LOUDEST ABOUT THE YEAR 2036 AND THE USE OF WATER.
UM, AND THAT'S NOT BEEN DISCUSSED TONIGHT.
I APPRECIATE THE, THE RECLAMATION OF WATER THAT THEY DO ON THE PROPERTY AND, AND, AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.
BUT I, AS I SIT HERE, REALLY STRUGGLE WITH THE IDEA OF PUTTING IN A BUSINESS THAT'S PRIMARY PURPOSE, IS TO USE WATER, EVEN IF THEY DO RECLAIM A LOT.
UM, AND AGAIN, STRUGGLE WITH THE FACT THAT I WANT THESE LAND OWNERS TO BE ABLE TO USE THEIR PROPERTY AS THEY SEE FIT.
UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I'VE REALLY BEEN LISTENING TO AND TRYING TO SORT OF WEIGH HERE.
UM, I'M LEANING TOWARDS, UM, SORT OF GOING WITH MY, UH, AGAIN, MY SOAPBOX ABOUT WATER AND, AND SORT OF SAYING I CAN'T SUPPORT SOMETHING THAT, THAT'S PRIMARY PURPOSE IS TO USE WATER.
UM, AND THAT, THAT'S WHERE I'M LEANING AT THE MOMENT.
BUT THAT'S SORT OF WHAT I'VE BEEN SILENTLY HERE MULLING IS, UH, LAND RIGHTS VERSUS WATER USAGE.
UM, AND, AND COMING DOWN ON THE SIDE OF, OF NOT ENCOURAGING WATER USAGE JUST BY WHAT I THINK IS GREAT THAT THEY RE RECLAIM A LOT OF IT.
BUT, UH, IT'S STILL A LOT, A LOT OF WATER BEING USED, UH, BY THIS BUSINESS.
SO THAT'S WHERE I AM RIGHT NOW.
I WANNA JUST REITERATE A COUPLE THINGS.
ONE, UM, TO, UM, COUNCILWOMAN JUSTICE, I, I DO ALSO HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT THE WATER CONSERVATION, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'M LISTENING TO FROM OUR CONSTITUENTS AND SOME OF THE H O A AND NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, UH, IN THE AREA.
UM, A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE REACHED OUT AT, UH, CONCERN ON, ON PRETTY MUCH A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT WE DISCUSSED TONIGHT.
I DO BELIEVE THAT THE OWNERS SHOULD BE ABLE TO USE THE PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, HOW HE AS HE SEES FIT.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I'M LOOKING AT I, HOW WE'RE GROWING RICHARDSON, HOW WE'RE GROWING EVERY PART OF RICHARDSON AND ALL, AND HOW THE DISTRICTS ARE CREATING AND HOW WE'RE HOPING TO USE THIS, UH, LIMITED AMOUNT OF LAND THAT WE HAVE AND REPURPOSING IT, TRYING TO ELEVATE ITS STATUS AND ELEVATE THE AREA THAT WE'RE IN.
AND RIGHT NOW, THIS IS A VERY KEY, UH, REAL ESTATE, REAL ESTATE SPOT, AND I REALLY FELT LIKE WE SHOULD CONSIDER IT AS, UH, WELL, AN IMPORTANT AREA AND WHAT ARE, WHAT DO WE ACTUALLY REALLY NEED THERE? UM, I GOT A LOT OF, UH, OF, YOU KNOW, FEEDBACK FROM, OF COURSE, THE LIGHTING AND THE USE AND THE DIFFERENT TRAFFIC STUDIES THAT WERE COMING IN, UH, BASED ON WHAT PEOPLE WERE SAYING, HOW YOU HAVE A LOT OF HIGH TRAFFICKED AREAS THERE.
AND, AND THOSE ARE REALLY MY CONCERNS RIGHT NOW BASED ON WHAT I'M HEARING FROM, UM, THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND, AND HONESTLY MORE IMPORTANTLY IS HOW ARE WE UTILIZING THE LAND THAT WE HAVE LEFT IN THAT DISTRICT, ESPECIALLY.
SO I'M LEANING TO, TO NOT SUPPORT THIS AT THIS TIME.
UM, COUNCILWOMAN JUSTICE, YOU DEFINITELY HAVE BEEN A VOICE BOX OF 2036, AND I THINK WE WERE ALL WAITING FOR YOU TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THAT.
I WAS WONDERING WHEN THAT WAS GONNA COME AROUND.
UM, THE, WHILE I CAME IN WITH A LOT OF, UH, CONCERNS ABOUT SOME OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT, AND WHILE THOSE AREN'T A HUNDRED PERCENT GONE, I WILL SAY, UM, THOUGH THAT IS ONE ASPECT OF IT, AND THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE, WHILE THAT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.
I'M NOT TRYING TO DOWN DOWNGRADE THAT BY ANY MEANS.
THAT'S NOT MY BIGGEST CONCERN.
I, I THINK, UM, MY, I GUESS THREE BIGGER CONCERNS IS THE LAND USE.
YOU KNOW, WE DO TIE IT TO THIS BUSINESS.
UM, YOU KNOW, HOW CAN WE USE THAT LAND IF HIS BUSINESS WERE TO GO BELLY UP, OR IF THE ECONOMY WERE TO CHANGE OR SOMETHING HAPPENS WHERE THIS BUSINESS IS NO LONGER VIABLE.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE DEALING WITH UNDERGROUND STORAGE TANKS.
UM, OBVIOUSLY THE NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE SPOKEN UP, UM, PREVIOUSLY, UH, TO PREVIOUS TO THE, I BELIEVE IT WAS THE PREVIOUS C P C, UM, AND THEY'VE SPOKEN UP A BIT TONIGHT.
UH, I'VE HEARD FROM THE OTHER COUNCILMEN THAT ARE CLOSER TO THIS PART OF TOWN THAN I AM.
UM, AND THEY'VE OBVIOUSLY, PEOPLE HAVE SHARED CONCERNS WITH THEM.
UH, SO WHO AM I TO GO AGAINST THEM? AND
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THEY KNOW THEIR AREA EXTREMELY WELL WHEN IT COMES TO THAT.UM, SO THE LAND USE IS KIND OF, YOU KNOW, IF WE WERE TO GO BELLY UP, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO YOU DO WITH, UH, ONCE SOMETHING'S BEEN A CAR WASH, MIXED WITH NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERNS MIXED WITH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, UM, THE CONCERN WITH THE SAFETY OF THE AMOUNT OF CARS AND AMOUNT OF KIDS IN THIS AREA, NOT JUST THE SOCCER FIELD, WHICH IN ALL HONESTY, UP UNTIL TONIGHT, I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT WAS THE SOCCER FIELD THERE.
UM, BUT I KNOW THE DAYCARE, AND I KNOW MY SON USED TO PLAY HOCKEY JUST TO THE WEST OF THERE IN THE, IN THE, UH, OLD STAR CENTER.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY CALL IT NOW, BUT THAT USED TO BE THE DR.
UH, SO BASED ON LAND USE, BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF KIDS AND NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD NOT WELCOMING THIS BUSINESS PREVIOUSLY.
AND BASED ON THE AMOUNT I'M LEANING TOWARDS, UH, NOT APPROVING THIS.
THIS IS DEFINITELY A TOUGH, A TOUGH CASE FOR ME.
IT CONFLATES A COUPLE PRINCIPLES I HAVE WITH NEW URBANISM AND TRAFFIC, UM, ALONG WITH LOOKING AT LOOKING AT A BUSINESS AND WHERE, WHERE IT MAKES SENSE AND WHERE MAYBE SOME OF THOSE SORT OF GENERAL PRINCIPLES I VOTED IN ALIGNMENT WITH IN THE PAST ARE MUTED A LITTLE BIT MORE.
SO WHEN I KIND OF MAKE A PROS AND CONS LIST, THE, THE PROS, I MEAN FOR ME ARE AUTOMATIC CAR WASHES, UH, DO USE SUBSTANTIALLY LESS WATER THAN IF YOU WERE TO HAND WASH YOUR CAR.
THEY ARE SUBSTANTIALLY ENVIRONMENTALLY SAFER THAN HAND WASHING YOUR CAR.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, ON THE OTHER HAND THOUGH, AS COUNCIL MEMBER BARRIO SAID, ADAPTABLE USE IS A HUGE CONCERN WITH ANY TIME YOU PUT IN A CAR WASH, AS I SAID EARLIER, RIGHT? UM, YOU PUT IN THE STORAGE TANKS, YOU BUILD A STRUCTURE, IT CAN PRETTY MUCH ONLY BE A CAR WASH UNLESS YOU TOTALLY DEMOLISH IT, DIG UP THE STORAGE TANKS AND REDO THE WHOLE PROPERTY.
SO, IN MY MIND, THAT SAID, THE CARWASH INDUSTRY IN GENERAL IS STEADILY GROWING.
MORE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO CAR WASHES AND, UM, AS THE PROPERTY OWNER SAID, NOT MUCH ELSE CAN BE BUILT ON THIS SITE.
UH, HE AT LEAST NOT THAT IN HIS AND HIS PARTNER'S OPINION ARE ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE TO BUILD MM-HMM.
AND IT MAKES SENSE AS IT'S RIGHT BY THE KROGER.
SO IF WE'RE GONNA BUILD A BUILDING THAT DOES NOT HAVE ADAPTABLE REUSE, UM, THIS ONE SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD HAVE HIGH LIKELIHOOD OF STAYING OPEN FOR A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME.
UM, AGAIN, ADMITTEDLY THOUGH THE OTHER CONS, RIGHT? LOTS OF NEIGHBORHOOD OPPOSITION AND, UH, THIS BUSINESS IN PARTICULAR WOULD CAUSE INCREASED TRAFFIC.
BUT I STILL THINK THAT THIS CAR WASH IS NOT JUST BETTER THAN THE EMPTY LOT, BUT IT MAY BE ONE OF THE ONLY THINGS THAT, AS THE PROPERTY OWNER WHO'S HELD IT FOR YEARS AND YEARS HAS SAID IS ECONOMICALLY VIABLE HERE.
UM, SO I'M ACTUALLY LEANING TOWARDS, TOWARDS YES ON THIS ONE.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALRIGHT, MR. HUTCHIN, WRITER.
UM, THIS ONE'S A IS VERY TOUGH.
UM, KIND OF LIKE WHAT COUNCIL PERSON, UM, COCHRAN SAID, WE, WE HAVE A CASE OF A PROPERTY OWNER WHO'S HELD PROPERTY FOR QUITE A, QUITE A LONG TIME, WHO HAS APPARENTLY PASSED ON MANY OTHER OPPORTUNITIES, IF I UNDERSTOOD HIM CORRECTLY, TO TRY AND FIND SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE THE MOST, IF YOU WILL, PLEASING INTO THE SPACE.
UM, I WORRY ABOUT WATER USAGE, UM, STILL HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT WE, GOING ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE BRIEFING AS TO, AS COUNCILWOMAN JUSTICE SAID 2036, THE, THE, THE KIND OF THE, IT, IT'S RIGHT THERE.
UH, 2036 IS NOT THAT FAR AWAY AND, YOU KNOW, WATER USE.
BUT AGAIN, I THINK, YOU KNOW, I, I GUESS I'M, I'M TRYING TO, TO BATTLE IN MY BRAIN THE, THE HOMEOWNERS THAT CAME FORWARD BROUGHT UP ISSUES OF CONCERN.
AND I FEEL, I DO FEEL LIKE THAT THE CAR WASH FOLKS AND THE LANDOWNER REALLY, REALLY ADDRESSED EVERY ONE OF THOSE.
SO, I, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, I GUESS MY BIG QUESTION IS, IS THERE'S STILL, YOU KNOW, AFTER HEARING THAT, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, LIGHT, UH, POLLUTION WOULD NOT BE AN ISSUE BECAUSE THEY'RE BASICALLY CLOSED DURING THE DARK TIMES OF THE, OF THE, OF THE EVENINGS.
UM, THAT, THAT THERE WAS CONCERN ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WATER POLLUTION, OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT.
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THE, THE, THE PEOPLE WHO WOULD OPERATE THE CAR WASHER REPRESENTING IT, UM, EXTREMELY WELL FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE.THIS ONE'S VERY, VERY TOUGH BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW, I MEAN, I DO HAVE CONCERN AND I GUESS I WOULD ASK THE QUESTION AS WELL.
I KNOW IT'S, WE'RE NOT IN THE QUESTION AND ANSWER TIME, BUT YOU KNOW, I I I THINK IT'S, I THINK IT'S EXTREMELY INAPPROPRIATE FOR PEOPLE TO PARK ONTO SOMEONE'S LAND, UM, WHETHER IT BE A SOCCER FIELD OR WHATEVER, THAT THAT'S NOT APPROPRIATE.
AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING FROM, YOU KNOW, CODE ENFORCEMENT EARLIER THIS EVENING THAT WE JUST REPRESENTED, IF THERE'S SOMETHING CAN BE DONE ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S, IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE FOR PEOPLE TO, TO, TO UTILIZE THE SOCCER FIELDS AND THROW THEIR TRASH OUT AND DO OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT THAT'S BEEN REPRESENTED TO US TONIGHT.
UM, SO REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THIS PASSES OR NOT, I GUESS I WOULD JUST MAKE THE SUB, SUB ASK OF, OF IF WE, AS THE CITY CODE ENFORCEMENT COULD, COULD BE INVOLVED IN ENSURING THAT'S NOT HAPPENING.
'CAUSE THAT'S NOT FAIR TO THE PROPERTY OWNER.
WHETHER THIS IS PASSED OR NOT, I THINK WE NEED TO, EXCUSE ME, I THINK WE NEED TO DEAL WITH THAT.
UM, BECAUSE I, I, I DON'T DISAGREE.
I'D LIKE TO SEE THE HIGHEST AND, AND BEST LAND USE FOR THIS PROPERTY.
BUT IT'S A, IT'S ALSO SOMEWHAT OF A KIND OF A TOUGH PIECE OF PROPERTY AS WELL AS TO WHAT'S GONNA GO IN BEHIND THE KROGER FUEL CENTER AND THE, THE FAT FAST FOOD.
AND THEN THE KROGER'S ITSELF, A LOT OF TRAFFIC GOES IN AND OUT OF KROGER'S.
I'M, I'M STILL ON THE FENCE ON THIS ONE.
THIS ONE, THIS ONE'S VERY TOUGH, SO THANK YOU.
UH, COUNCILMAN HUTCH RY, I AGREE.
AND I DIDN'T ACKNOWLEDGE, UM, EARLIER, I, I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH WHAT COUNCILMAN HUTCHIN RIDER SAID.
UH, REGARDLESS, UM, THE GENTLEMAN TO THE, TO THE GENTLEMAN WHO OWNED THE LAND, THAT IS, THAT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE TO, TO THE WAY IT'S BEEN USED.
AND THE WAY IT HAS BEEN USED IS, YOU KNOW, TRASH.
WE CAN DEAL WITH THAT SEPARATELY.
UM, THE WAY I APPROACH THESE KINDS OF CASES IS LIKE, IS THERE ENOUGH THERE TO, WHILE THE DEFINITELY NOT DENYING OWNER'S RIGHTS, 'CAUSE I DO BELIEVE THAT OWNERSHIP, WHETHER IT'S COMMERCIAL OR PERSONAL PROPERTY, DEFINITELY COMES WITH ITS SET OF RIGHTS.
UM, BUT WHEN I SEE THESE, I CHECK TO SEE IS THERE ENOUGH THERE FOR ME TO VOTE FOR THIS? UH, IS THERE ENOUGH? IS IT STRONG ENOUGH OF A CASE FOR ME TO SAY, YES, WE NEED TO MAKE THIS EXCEPTION? AND THERE IT IS AN EXCEPTION, WHICH IS WHY IT COMES TO THE COUNCIL.
UM, ALTHOUGH I KNOW NOT ALL MY COLLEAGUES ON THE DIOCESE AGREE THAT WITH THE WORD EXCEPTION, UH, WHEN I USE IT IN THIS, IN THIS WAY, UM, AND WHEN I LOOK AT THIS, I JUST DON'T SEE ENOUGH THERE.
UH, AND IT IS KIND OF A MIDDLE OF THE ROAD TYPE DECISION, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE ARE BALANCING AS A TOUGH ONE.
BUT I THINK THE THERE NEEDS TO BE ENOUGH TO SAY, YES, WE SHOULD BE MOVED FORWARDED WITH SOMETHING WHEN THERE'S NOT ENOUGH THERE, THEN I THINK THE VOTE SHOULD BE NO.
AND I JUST DON'T SEE ENOUGH THERE.
I MEAN, EVEN THE C P C VOTE WAS SPLIT.
AND AS SOMEBODY MENTIONED EARLIER, UM, THERE WAS A, I THINK IT WAS THREE TWO, UH, SO OBVIOUSLY THERE'S ONLY SEVEN MEMBERS VOTE AT ANY GIVEN TIME.
SO THERE WERE TWO, YOU KNOW, THE ALTERNATES AND TO OTHERS WERE MISSING FOR WHATEVER REASON.
SO IT WASN'T A STRONG DECISION EITHER WAY THERE.
UH, IT SOUNDS LIKE EVEN BY OTHER PEOPLE'S COMMENTS, IT'S NOT A STRONG DECISION EITHER.
SO I ASK YOU YET I ASK MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS TO CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK, IS THERE ENOUGH THERE FOR THIS EXCEPTION? AND I HAVE A HARD TIME SAYING, SAYING IN THIS CASE THAT THERE'S ENOUGH THERE FOR US TO APPROVE THIS AND THAT, MR. MY LAST TIME, THANK YOU.
THE ONLY COMMENT I'D SAY IS THAT IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE THE ONLY REASON THE PROPERTY OWNER IS EVEN ASKING FOR AN EXCEPTION IS BECAUSE, UM, IN THEIR OPINION, THERE'S NOTHING ELSE THAT WOULD REALLY BE VIABLE HERE.
I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHY ELSE THEY WOULD'VE HELD THE LAND FOR SO LONG VACANT IN SUCH A DENSELY BUILT OUT AREA.
OTHERWISE, THAT'S MY ONLY COUNTER TO THAT.
THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.
THE ONLY COMMENTS THAT I WOULD MAKE IS THE LANDOWNER KNEW WHAT HE HAD WHEN HE PURCHASED IT AND GOT IT.
AND HE'S HAVING TO HAVE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO GO AWAY FROM THAT.
SO IT, I MEAN, IT'S ZONED FOR RETAIL.
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SO IT'S NOT LIKE SOMETHING WE BROUGHT IN ON HIM AFTER THE FACT.THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD SAY.
THE OTHER ISSUE THAT I WOULD SAY IS THE NEIGHBORS ARE ADAMANTLY AGAINST, OR AT LEAST A LARGE PORTION OF 'EM, AND I THINK THAT CARRIES A LITTLE BIT OF WEIGHT.
I'M NOT TELLING YOU HOW TO VOTE, I JUST THINK THOSE TWO ISSUES ARE SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE CONSIDERED.
DOES ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION ON THIS, MR. DORIAN? UM, YES.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION NOT TO APPROVE PUBLIC HEARING ZONING FILE 23 DASH NINE A REQUEST TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 3.4 ACRES, LOCATED AT 5 2 4 AND 5 2 8 CENTENNIAL BOULEVARD.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO DENY THIS.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND SHOW OF HANDS OF ALL IN FAVOR OF DENIAL OF THIS MOTION.
[7. CONSENT AGENDA]
OKAY.AT THIS TIME WE'RE GONNA MOVE TO ITEM SEVEN.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONSIDER AND ADOPT ORATES NUMBER 4 4 7 4.
I'M SORRY, I, I'M SORRY FOR THE CONSENT.
FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS AS STATED AS PRESENTED.
OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION, MS. JUSTICE.
SECOND, WE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND.
[8. REPORT ON ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST]
ALL RIGHTY.AT THIS POINT WE'RE GONNA GO TO ITEM EIGHT, REPORT ON ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST.
I KEEP FORGETTING MY, YOUR LIGHT IS ON.
YEAH,
WE DID A LOT OF THINGS THIS WEEK.
UH, WE HAD A BEAUTIFUL WEEKEND AT COTTONWOOD, BY THE WAY, THE CITY STAFF, PARKS DEPARTMENT.
EVERYBODY DID AN INCREDIBLE JOB, BY THE WAY.
IT WAS, IT, IT REALLY WAS NICE.
AND, UH, WE HAD A, A VERY NICE TURNOUT.
AND, UH, IT WAS JUST A, IT WAS JUST A BEAUTIFUL EVENT.
UM, WE ALSO, UH, HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, HAVE OUR TEXAS MUNICIPAL LEAGUE, UH, CONFERENCE, UH, THIS WEEK, WHICH WAS, UH, VERY NICE, VERY GOOD TURNOUT, GOT TO MEET A LOT OF VENDORS, AND, UM, IT JUST, WE JUST, WE ONLY HAD A TREMENDOUS TIME.
SO, UM, I'M GONNA SAVE SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS FOR OTHER, UH, OUR OTHER COUNCILMEN, OUR AND WOMEN, BUT I WILL LET, I'LL LET YOU KNOW THAT THOSE ARE TWO INCREDIBLE EVENTS.
UH, JUST WANNA SHOUT OUT TO CHIEF TIDDLE AND, UH, CHIEF VY, ALSO FOR THE SUPPORT FOR NATIONAL NIGHT OUT ON TUESDAY.
IT WAS A GREAT EVENT, HIT OVER 120 PARTIES, AND IT WAS REALLY GREAT TO SEE THE NEIGHBORS, UH, COME OUT AND SUPPORT OUR FIRST RESPONDERS.
SO, UM, CONGRATULATIONS TO, TO BOTH THE CHIEFS FOR, UM, AN AMAZING EVENT.
NATIONAL NIGHT OUT DI DITTO, COTTONWOOD ART FEST ARTS FESTIVAL.
THE THING I'M SO PROUD TODAY IS WHAT OUR CITY MANAGER TOLD US.
SOMETHING THAT I'VE PUSHED FOR, FOR SEVERAL YEARS IS THAT, UM, THE AMBULANCE AT STATION SIX IS FULLY FUNCTIONAL.
SO I JUST WANNA SAY NUMBER ONE, A HUGE SHOUT OUT TO MY FEDERAL, FEDERAL, MY FEDERAL.
WOW, WHERE'D THAT COME FROM? MY FELLOW COUNCIL PEOPLE, UM, FOR SUPPORTING FROM A BUDGETARY STANDPOINT TO ACTIVATE, UH, THE AMBULANCE FOR STATION SIX.
I WANT TO CONGRATULATE CHIEF VY AND THE ENTIRE COMMAND STAFF FROM OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT AND ALL OF OUR FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDICS FOR OPERATING, UH, OPERATING, UH, AMBULANCE SIX.
I THINK IT'S A HUGE SERVICE THAT WE NEED, AND I'M SO EXCITED THAT IT, IT, IT'S, IT'S IN SERVICE AND HAS ALREADY MADE ITS FIRST RUN.
MAYBE BY NOW IT'S SECOND RUN FOR ALL I KNOW.
BUT ANYWAY, UM, I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
AND THEN, UH, UM, HUGE CONGRATULATIONS TO THE RICHARDSON SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA FOR A GREAT PERFORMANCE ON SATURDAY NIGHT.
REALLY APPRECIATE THEIR, THEIR EFFORTS, AND I HOPE MORE PEOPLE WILL GO OUT AND SUPPORT OUR SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA.
MR. BARRIOS, UH, THANK YOU, MAYOR.
TO, UH, ECHO WHAT OTHERS HAVE SAID, NATIONAL NIGHT OUT WAS GREAT.
OBVIOUSLY AS A NEW COUNCIL MEMBER, THIS WAS MY FIRST TIME.
AND, UM, I TRULY ENJOYED ATTENDING SO MANY EVENTS AND SEEING THE, THE AMAZING DIFFERENT, I GUESS, DIVERSITY AND THE, UM, STYLE
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IN WHICH EACH NEIGHBORHOOD CELEBRATED.I SAW EVERYTHING FROM FOOD TRUCKS TO ONE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, OVER IN THE RESERVATION HAD ONE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, MEMBERS WHO WAS A DJ, AND SHE HAD ALL THE KIDS WERE RUNNING AROUND WITH LIGHTS.
AND IT WAS, IT WAS AN EX AMAZING EXPERIENCE.
MY SON GOT TO JOIN ME THAT EVENING AS WE TOURED, UM, AROUND RICHARDSON.
AND IT WAS, IT WAS QUITE AN EXPERIENCE, AND I JUST, IT JUST, IT JUST MADE ME HAPPY.
SO THANK YOU TO ALL THOSE, SO MUCH WORK GETS PUT INTO THOSE, UM, INTO THOSE CELEBRATION.
AND IT WAS NEAT TO SEE EACH NEIGHBORHOOD CELEBRATE IN THEIR OWN UNIQUE WAY.
UH, I, ALONG WITH OTHERS, UM, ATTENDED TEXAS MUNICIPAL LEAGUE CONVENTION THIS PAST WEEK, AND IT WAS, IT WAS A LOT OF FUN, BUT THERE WAS A LOT OF LEARNING THAT HAPPENED.
AND I, UH, REALLY ENJOYED, UM, HEARING ON HOW OTHERS, HOW THERE'S, UM, DO THINGS.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT BROUGHT ME JOY, OTHER THAN JUST LEARNING, WAS ALSO HEARING AND GETTING TO MEET PEOPLE WHEN THEY, THEY SAY, WHERE ARE YOU FROM? I SAID, RICHARDSON.
OR WE, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW DON, WE KNOW DAN.
WE KNOW D DIFFERENT PEOPLE THAT STAFF, UH, HAVE WORKED WITH OVER THE YEARS HERE AND IN OTHER CITIES.
AND THE REPUTATION THAT, UH, RICHARDSON HAS AND THE CALIBER, UM, YOU KNOW, IT, WE KNOW THE CALIBER OF PEOPLE WE, WE THAT, UH, WE WORK WITH AND THE CALIBER PEOPLE THAT RUN THIS CITY.
UM, BUT TO HEAR THAT, AND THAT REINFORCED WHEN I MEET OTHERS IN THE OUT AND ABOUT.
THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY AMAZING.
SO, HATS OFF TO ALL OF YOU, UH, AND DON AND TO YOUR ENTIRE STAFF, BECAUSE THE REPUTATION THAT, UH, RICHARDSON STAFF HAS GOES A LONG WAY TO, TO ALL QUARTERS OF THE STATE.
UH, AND I WILL SAY, I'M GONNA PAT MY BACK AND BRAG ON A LITTLE, I BROUGHT BACK AN AWARD TO RICHARDSON.
UH, I WON AN ARMADILLO RACE, AND I'M QUITE PROUD OF THAT.
BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT ALL WEEK.
UH, BUT, UH, I KNOW, I KNOW IT WAS QUITE THE JOY.
WELL, I WAS NOT GONNA SAY ANYTHING.
UH, I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING HAS BEEN SAID PRETTY WELL IN DETAIL, AND WE REALLY HAD A BUSY WEEK LAST WEEK FROM MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY.
BUT I'M NOT, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'VE BEEN HAPPY WITH ALL THOSE THINGS.
I HEARD FEW THINGS ABOUT RICHARDSON AT THE T M L, LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER BARRIO SAID THAT YOU HAVE THE BEST PEOPLE THERE AT THE CITY.
I SAY, YES, OUR, WHOEVER LIVES IN RICHARDSON, THEY'RE ALL BEST.
AND, UH, ABSOLUTELY WE HAVE BEST TEAM HERE.
NOW, THE REASON I I, I DECIDED TO SPEAK NOW IS THAT I DO HAVE LITTLE CONCERN THAT I KNOW THAT OUR COUNCIL MEMBER, BARRIOS, HE OWNED THAT, UH, ARM DOLLAR OF MILK.
AND I LOOKED AT THE WARNING ON THAT MILK CAN.
AND IF YOU SEE THAT HE'S WALKING TWO WOODS WITHOUT ANY SIGN, ANY REASON, THEN, UH, CALL 9 1 1 SO THAT
UM, REAL QUICK, IN CLOSING, UM, MR.
I, MY ENTIRE FAMILY APPRECIATES THE KINDNESS, THE PRAYERS, AND THE LOVE AND THE FRIENDSHIP THAT WE'RE EXPERIENCED OVER THE LAST WEEK AS WE LOST A FAMILY MEMBER.
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AT THIS TIME, WE'RE GONNA GO, UH, CLOSE THIS MEETING AT 7 48.WE'RE GONNA GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO IN COMPLIANCE WITH SECTION 5 51 0.074 OF THE TEXAS GO GOVERNMENT CO CODE COUNSEL WILL CONVENE INTO A CLOSED SESSION TO DISCUSS THE FOLLOWING PERSONNEL MATTERS, EVALUATION OF CITY MANAGER.
LET'S TRY TO BE BACK IN HERE, STARTING AT 7 55.