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          GOOD EVENING. 
          [CALL TO ORDER]
IT'S 6:00 PM AND I CALL THIS MEETING OF THE RICHARDSON CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER. 
          UH, FOR THE RECORD, UH, UNFORTUNATELY, COUNCIL MEMBER DAN BARRIOS IS NOT ABLE TO ATTEND THIS EVENING, AND WE WISH HIM THE BEST. 
          MR. MAGNER, WE'RE GONNA GO TO VISITORS AND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS. 
          DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY CARDS IN ADVANCE OF THE 5:00 PM DEADLINE, AND, UH, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS EITHER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          WE'RE NOW GONNA GO TO 
          [B. REVIEW AND DISCUSS CITY COUNCIL GOALS FOR THE 2023-2025 COUNCIL TERM]
ITEM B, REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE CITY COUNCIL GOALS FOR THE 20 23 25 COUNCIL TERM. 
          MR. MACER. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UH, RICK ROBINSON OF, UH, RAMSEY CONSULTING GROUP IS GONNA MAKE HIS WAY TO THE PODIUM. 
          RICK IS A VERY FAMILIAR FACE TO YOU, UM, IN ADDITION TO A NUMBER OF, UH, INTERVIEWS AND ONE-ON-ONES. 
          UH, WE SPENT, UH, ABOUT, UH, FOUR AND A HALF HOURS IN THIS VERY ROOM JUST A COUPLE OF SATURDAYS AGO. 
          AND VERY EXCITED TO HAVE RICK, UH, BACK WITH US TO, UH, PRESENT THE, THE, UH, FINAL, UH, STATEMENT OF GOALS AND THE FIVE ELEMENTS THAT, UH, MAKE UP THAT FOR YOU. 
          SO RICK, UH, THANKS FOR ALL YOUR WORK, UH, THIS YEAR AND IN PRIOR YEARS, AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU FOR FURTHER BRIEFING. 
          THANK YOU, DON. 
          AND, UH, THANKS TO, UH, ALL OF YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO BE HERE AND PRESENT KIND OF THE OUTPUT OF THE, UH, THE SESSION THAT WE HAD, UH, ABOUT A MONTH AGO, UH, JUST KIND OF AS A REVIEW. 
          AND FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW, THIS WHOLE PROCESS STARTED ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO. 
          UH, AND THE INITIAL, UH, SET OF MEETINGS PROBABLY TOOK A, ALTOGETHER, AT LEAST 40 HOURS WORTH OF WORK FOR THE COUNCIL TO GO THROUGH A VERY RIGOROUS PROCESS, UH, AND ESTABLISH THE FIRST, UH, SET OF THE FIVE ELEMENTS OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN, WHICH IS THE ROLE OF COUNCIL, THE RULES OF ENGAGEMENT, UH, THE VISION, GOALS AND STRATEGIES THAT THE COUNCIL CAME UP WITH, UH, THAT'S BEEN REFRESHED ROUGHLY EVERY TWO YEARS. 
          AND THEN IN THIS YEAR'S ITERATION, THE PROCESS WE WENT THROUGH WAS TO, UH, WE DEVELOPED A DRAFT SESSION AGENDA AND A SET OF, UH, GOALS FOR THE SESSION, UH, THAT WE MET WITH EVERY ONE OF YOU ONE-ON-ONE, UH, TO REVIEW THAT, TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS WITHIN YOUR EXPECTATIONS OF WHAT WE WERE GONNA DO. 
          UH, THEN THE COUNT, YOU GUYS ALL WERE ABLE TO SUBMIT, UH, A SURVEY EVALUATING THE PREVIOUS VERSION OF THE FIVE ELEMENTS OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN. 
          WE HAD THE SESSION ON THE 16TH AND, UH, SUMMARY PRESENTED, UH, THE, BY THE 20TH. 
          THE DETAIL OF THAT SUMMARY OF THE OUTPUT FROM THE SESSION ARE ON THE FOLLOWING SLIDES. 
          UH, FIRST ELEMENT IS THE ROLE OF COUNCIL. 
          ROLE OF COUNCIL CHANGED SLIGHTLY. 
          THE MAIN PIECE OF INPUT WAS, UH, TO CHANGE OTHER STAKEHOLDERS INTO ALL STAKEHOLDERS, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE MORE INCLUSIVE IN OUR STATEMENT. 
          SO THE PROPOSED NEW DRAFT IS THE ROLE OF COUNCILS TO BE RESPONSIBLE, ETHICAL, TRANSPARENT, AND RESOURCEFUL ADVOCATES OF THE CITY WE COMMUNICATE WITH AND SEEK INPUT FROM AND PROVIDE A VOICE FOR RESIDENTS IN ALL STAKEHOLDERS. 
          WE SET POLICIES AND DELIVER, DEVELOP STRATEGIES THAT WILL ENSURE TRANSPARENCY, ENABLE US TO ACHIEVE OUR VISION, UH, THE COUNCIL SUPPORT STAFF BY PROVIDING THE RESOURCES, DIRECTION, AND GUIDANCE THAT ENABLES THE CITY MANAGER TO IMPLEMENT THE OPERATIONAL AND TACTICAL ASPECTS OF OUR VISION, GOALS AND STRATEGIES. 
          SO THAT IS, AS YOU DEFINE IT, THE ROLE OF COUNCIL. 
          UH, THE SECOND THING, IF YOU'LL REMEMBER THAT WE WENT THROUGH WAS REVIEW, UH, AND UPDATE THE RULES OF ENGAGEMENT. 
          UH, THE RULES OF YOUR ENGAGEMENT IS YOU'LL WORK TO ACHIEVE A RESULT THAT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF RESIDENTS AND ALL STAKEHOLDERS. 
          WE'LL STRIVE TO BE, STRIVE TO KEEP OUR DISCUSSIONS RELEVANT AND PRODUCTIVE, AND WILL BE SUPPORTIVE OF ALL COUNCIL DECISIONS WHILE EXECUTING OUR DUTIES. 
          THE COUNCIL WILL INTERACT WITH EACH OTHER STAFF AND STAKEHOLDERS RESPECTFULLY, WHICH MEANS YOU'RE WILLING TO LISTEN AND RECOGNIZE THE POTENTIAL VALUE OF DIFFERING IDEAS AND OPINIONS AND A NON-PARTISAN MANNER. 
          PROFESSIONALLY, YOU'RE PUNCTUAL, FOCUSED, PRESENT, AND PREPARED. 
          YOU ARE FAIR, IMPARTIAL, AND UNBIASED WHEN VOTING ON ACTIONS AND EFFICIENTLY VALUES VALUING CITY'S RESOURCES IN THE TIME OF OTHERS. 
          YOU'LL WORK TO LIMIT INTERRUPTIONS AND DISTRACTIONS. 
          AND, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, I BELIEVE THIS YEAR, IS THAT, THAT STATEMENT AT THE BOTTOM, THAT YOU WILL, UH, AGREE TO USE THESE RULES TO HOLD EACH OTHER ACCOUNTABLE. 
          SO THOSE ARE KIND OF THE FOUNDATIONAL PIECES FOR YOUR ROLE AND HOW YOU'RE GOING TO INTERACT. 
          UM, YOUR COMMON VISION, UH, FOR THE CITY IS TO BE RECOGNIZED AND STUDIED FOR BEING A WELL-RUN, PROFESSIONALLY MANAGED FORWARD-LOOKING CITY, AND FOR YOUR ABILITY TO CREATE A CLEAN, SAFE, VIBRANT, DIVERSE 
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AND INCLUSIVE COMMUNITY IN WHICH RESIDENTS AND ALL STAKEHOLDERS ENJOY HIGH QUALITY AMENITIES, ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT. 
          THAT'S FURTHER DEFINED WITH THE TWO BULLETS, UH, RESIDENTS AND VISITORS VALUE, THE ACCESSIBILITY, THE QUALITY, AND THE VARIETY OF THE CITY SERVICES, THE RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES, GREEN SPACES, HOUSING, EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES, RETAIL CHOICES, AND TRANSPORTATION OFF OPTIONS. 
          UM, FROM A BUSINESS PERSPECTIVE, YOU HAVE A THRIVING DIVERSE BUSINESS COMMUNITY WHOSE SUCCESS IS SUPPORTED BY A SUPERIOR INFRASTRUCTURE ACCESS TO A TALENTED, WELL EDUCATED, ENGAGED WORKFORCE, A BUSINESS FRIENDLY ENVIRONMENT, AND EASY ACCESS TO THE NORTH TEXAS REGION. 
          SO THAT'S THE, UH, PROPOSED VISION. 
          AND THEN THE GOALS, IF YOU REMEMBER, FURTHER DEFINE THE VISION. 
          THE GOALS ARE A BALANCED SCORECARD SET OF GOALS, YOUR FINANCIAL GOALS. 
          UH, FINANCIAL GOAL IS TO EFFECTIVELY, EFFICIENTLY, AND TRANSPARENTLY MANAGE CITY RESOURCES WHILE MAINTAINING AND ENHANCING CITY SERVICES. 
          YOUR CUSTOMER GOAL IS TO HAVE RESIDENTS AND ALL STAKEHOLDERS CHOOSE RICHARDSON AS THE BEST PLACE TO LOCATE, CONTRIBUTE, AND ENGAGE YOUR INTERNAL PROCESS GOALS TO HAVE CLEAR, EFFECTIVE, EFFICIENT, CONTINUOUSLY IMPROVED AND CONSISTENTLY APPLIED PROCESSES AND POLICIES THAT MAKE IT EASY FOR RESIDENTS, EMPLOYEES, AND ALL STAKEHOLDERS TO INTERACT WITH THE CITY. 
          AND FINALLY, YOUR CULTURE SLASH EMPLOYEE GOAL IS TO HAVE WELL-TRAINED, ENGAGED, AND INNOVATIVE EMPLOYEES WHO DELIVER AN EXCEPTIONAL CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE WHILE WORKING IN A SAFE, INCLUSIVE, AND EQUITABLE ENVIRONMENT. 
          SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THOSE THINGS ARE WHAT YOU DEFINE WERE NECESSARY IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE THE VISION. 
          UH, AND THEN THE STRATEGIES TO ACHIEVE THOSE GOALS. 
          UH, I'M NOT GONNA READ ALL OF THESE. 
          UH, THERE WERE TWO THAT WERE EITHER MODIFIED, ONE WAS NEW AND ONE WAS MODIFIED BASED ON YOUR INPUT FOR THIS YEAR. 
          AND THOSE ARE IN ITALICS. 
          UH, SO IF YOU LOOK ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE DOWN, CONTINUE TO EXPLORE UNIQUE OPPORTUNITIES TO ATTRACT AND RETAIN RESIDENTS IN ALL STAKEHOLDERS. 
          AND THE LAST ONE, PROMOTE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT BENEFITS THE WHOLE CITY. 
          SO YOU END UP WITH ONE MORE STRATEGY THAN YOU HAD BEFORE. 
          SO THAT'S THE SUMMARY OF THE WORK. 
          UH, NEXT STEPS. 
          UM, I BELIEVE THERE'S A RESOLUTION FORMALLY ADOPTING THE STATEMENT OF GOALS WILL BE ON THE NEXT AGENDA. 
          UH, AND THEN A COMMUNICATION PLAN TO SHARE THE STATEMENT OF GOALS WILL IMMEDIATELY FOLLOW WITH A COMPLETE LIST OF TACTICS TO SUPPORT THE STRATEGIES COMING IN NOVEMBER. 
          ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? THANK YOU, RICK. 
          COUNSEL, ANY COMMENTS? I THINK YOU'VE CAPTURED EVERYTHING, SAID IT EXACTLY THE WAY WE SAID IT, AND, UM, WE APPRECIATE YOUR HARD WORK AND COMMITMENT TO, UH, THE CITY OF RICHARDSON TO MAKE US, UM, BETTER TRANSPARENT AND MORE EFFICIENT. 
          SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          WELL, IT'S MY PLEASURE. 
          THANK YOU GUYS. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. MAGNER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHTY. 
          [C. REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE REMOTE CITY COUNCIL MEETING POLICY ]
THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM C. 
          WE'RE GONNA REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE REMOTE CITY COUNCIL MEETING POLICY. 
          MR. MAGNER. 
          UH, THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          AS YOU, UH, SAW THERE ON THE FINAL SLIDE, UM, I ANTICIPATE BRINGING BACK A FULL LIST OF TACTICS, UM, UH, PROBABLY, UH, IN THE NOVEMBER 6TH OR 13TH MEETING. 
          UH, HOWEVER, IN ADVANCE OF THAT, THERE WERE A HANDFUL OF TACTICS, UH, COMING OUTTA YOUR GOALS DEVELOPMENT, UH, UH, PROCESS THAT SATURDAY THAT I FELT THERE WAS A HIGH CONSENSUS AMONG THE COUN, AMONGST THE COUNCIL. 
          AND ACTUALLY TWO OF THE BRIEFINGS TONIGHT, UH, TIE BACK TO THAT DIRECTION THAT I FELT WAS CLEAR. 
          UH, THE FIRST, UH, GREG IS GONNA, UH, UH, UH, PRESENT HERE IS, UH, YOUR CONSIDERATION OF A REMOTE POLICY, OBVIOUSLY. 
          UM, THIS BECAME, UM, UH, A TOPIC, UH, FOR COUNCILS, UH, THROUGH, UH, THE, THE COVID THE PANDEMIC EXPERIENCE. 
          AND, UH, AND, UH, SO WE WANTED TO JUST GIVE YOU A, A SENSE OF WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING, UH, THE LEGAL, UH, CONSIDERATIONS AROUND, UH, IMPLEMENTING A POLICY LIKE THAT. 
          AND THEN GREG'S GOT A, A GOOD, UH, UM, GROUP OF RECOMMENDATIONS TO CONCLUDE WITH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. 
          UH, AGAIN, THIS IS A EXPLORATORY BRIEFING AT THIS POINT. 
          UH, IF YOU DECIDE THAT YOU'D LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD, WE CAN OPERATIONALIZE, UH, THESE RECOMMENDATIONS INTO AN OFFICIAL POLICY FOR YOU TO CONSIDER ADOPTING, UH, VIA RESOLUTION IN THE FUTURE. 
          SO, GREG, THANKS FOR YOUR GOOD WORK PUTTING, UH, THIS BRIEFING TOGETHER. 
          AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU. 
          SURE. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          AND GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          SO FOR THE REMOTE COUNCIL MEETING, UH, PARTICIPATION, WE ARE LOOKING AT, UH, THIS IS THE OVERVIEW OF PRETTY MUCH TONIGHT'S PRESENTATION. 
          LOOKING AT TEXAS STATE LAW, HOW DOES THAT IMPACT REMOTE MEETINGS? BECAUSE THE STATE LEGISLATURE HAS SET OUT, UH, PRIORITIES 
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OR REQUIREMENTS FOR REMOTE MEETINGS TO OCCUR WITH CITY COUNCILS. 
          WE'LL GIVE YOU A PEER REVIEW, LOOKED AT OTHER NORTH TEXAS CITIES, SEE HOW THEY DO IT. 
          UH, THOSE THAT HAVE POLICIES, WE'VE TAKEN THOSE IN, REVIEWED THEM, AND, UH, HELPED US TO COME FORWARD WITH RECOMMENDATIONS FOR YOU TO CONSIDER. 
          UH, WE'LL LOOK AT CITY CAPABILITIES AFTER THAT, WHAT WOULD NEED TO HAPPEN IN ORDER FOR US TO, UH, ACHIEVE HAVING, UH, UH, THIS POLICY IN PLACE. 
          AND THEN OF COURSE, LEAVING THAT OPEN TO YOUR DISCUSSION. 
          SO THE TEXAS STATE LEGISLATURE HAS, UH, PASSED THE, UH, OR ADDED IN THROUGH THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT, THE ALLOWED USE OF VIDEO CONFERENCING TECHNOLOGY SO THAT MEMBERS CAN PARTICIPATE IN MEETINGS REMOTELY. 
          SPECIFICALLY THIS LAW REGARDS REMOTE PARTICIPATION BY CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR PUBLIC MEETINGS CONTAINED IN TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 51 0.127, WHICH SAYS THAT LAWS THE LAW ALLOWS CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS TO PARTICIPATE IN PUBLIC MEETINGS REMOTELY BY MEANS OF A VIDEO CONFERENCE CALL. 
          IT HAS TO BE A VIDEO CONFERENCE CALL, AND PROVIDED THAT CERTAIN CONDITIONS ARE MET. 
          AND SO THERE ARE MANY, UH, ELEMENTS TO THAT LAW. 
          WE'VE BROKEN IT DOWN TO THESE PRIMARY CATEGORIES, UH, TO SHOW YOU THOSE, THOSE ELEMENTS THAT ARE REQUIRED. 
          ONE COUNCIL MEETINGS USING VIDEO CONFERENCING MUST MEET THE SAME NOTICE REQUIREMENTS AS IN-PERSON MEETINGS AND ALL OTHER OPEN MEETING REQUIREMENTS. 
          THIS IS REALLY NOTHING NEW. 
          HOWEVER, FOR THE VIDEO CONFERENCE MEETINGS, THAT NOTICE MUST SPECIFY THE LOCATION AS BEING THE PLACE WHERE THE QUORUM OF THE GOVERNMENTAL BODY WILL BE PHYSICALLY PRESENT. 
          AND SO, LOOKING AT TO THE NEXT ITEM ON THAT, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE QUORUM AND WHERE THAT QUORUM NEEDS TO BE, THE QUORUM OF THE GOVERNMENTAL BODY MUST BE PHYSICALLY PRESENT AT THE MEETING LOCATION. 
          AND THAT WILL COME INTO PLAY AS YOU LOOK INTO THE RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, LATER IN THE PRESENTATION. 
          EACH PORTION OF THE MEETING HELD BY VIDEO CONFERENCE CALLS SHALL BE VISIBLE AND AUDIO, UH, AND AUDIBLE TO THE PUBLIC. 
          AND THERE ARE SPECIFICS TO THAT, UH, WHICH ARE BROKEN OUT HERE. 
          THE FACE OF EACH PARTICIPANT IN THE VIDEO CONFERENCE CALL, WHILE THE PARTICIPANT IS SPEAKING, SHALL BE CLEARLY VISIBLE AND THE VOICE AUDIBLE TO EACH OTHER PARTICIPANT AND DURING THE OPEN PORTION OF THE MEETING TO THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC IN ATTENDANCE. 
          SO IT'S NOT JUST YOU, BUT IT'S ALSO EVERYBODY WHO'S SITTING IN THE PUBLIC AREA. 
          THE AUDIO AND THE VIDEO SIGNALS PERCEPTIBLE BY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AT EACH LOCATION OF THE MEETING MUST BE OF SUFFICIENT QUALITY SO THAT THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AT EACH LOCATION CAN OBSERVE THE DEMEANOR AND HEAR THE VOICE OF EACH PARTICIPANT IN THE OPEN, UH, PORTION OF THE MEETING. 
          A MEMBER OF THE GOVERNMENTAL BODY WHO PARTICIPATES IN THE, IN THE MEETING BY VIDEO CONFERENCE, SHALL BE CONSIDERED ABSENT FROM ANY PORTION OF THE MEETING DURING WHICH AUDIO OR VIDEO COMMUNICATION WITH THE MEMBER IS LOST OR DISCONNECTED. 
          AND AGAIN, THAT WILL COME UP TO OTHER, UH, THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU LOOK AT THOSE, UH, FOR THE POLICY THAT YOU WOULD, UH, UH, BE CONSIDERING THIS EVENING. 
          SO WE TOOK THAT, AND THEN WE STARTED LOOKING, ALL RIGHT, WELL, WHAT OTHER CITIES AROUND, UH, THE AREA, HOW ARE THEY DOING IT? AND, AND, UH, IF SO, WHAT IS IN THEIR POLICY THAT, THAT WE COULD START TO LEARN FROM? AND SO WE HAVE A STANDARD SET OF CITIES THAT WE LOOK AT IN THE NORTH TEXAS AREA. 
          HERE'S A LIST OF THEM. 
          UH, AS YOU SEE, UH, AS WE WERE GOING THROUGH AND CONTACTING THEM, MOST OF THEM AT SOME POINT OR ANOTHER HAD VIDEO CONFERENCING AS A REGULAR PART OF THEIR MEETINGS, SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE OF COVID. 
          BUT AS YOU'LL ALSO NOTICE A LOT OF THOSE THAT ONCE, ONCE THOSE RESTRICTIONS STARTED TO FALL OUT OF PLACE, THEN THEY WERE REVERTED BACK TO MANDATORY, GOING BACK TO HAVING, UH, MEMBERS PRESENT FOR THE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS, ALL BUT ABOUT A HANDFUL OF THEM. 
          AND SO OUT OF THOSE, UH, WE'VE GLEANED SOME, AGAIN FROM THEIR POLICIES, THOSE THAT HAVE POLICIES FOR US TO PULL FROM. 
          UH, BY AND LARGE THOUGH, THOSE THAT DO HAVE VIDEO CONFERENCING, AS A MATTER OF COURSE, AVAILABLE, THEY TRY TO USE IT AS SPARINGLY AS POSSIBLE. 
          SO IN OUR PEER REVIEW, UH, WHAT WE'LL GO OVER HERE ARE THIS SET OF BULLET POINTS. 
          THESE ARE ELEMENTS FROM THE POLICIES THAT WE WERE ABLE TO FIND WHAT WE FOUND FROM THEM, KIND OF THE, THE THINGS THAT WOULD TYPICALLY COME UP. 
          AFTER THIS, WE'LL GO OVER BULLET POINTS FOR RECOMMENDA, UH, THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE HAVE FOR YOU TO, TO CONSIDER. 
          SO, LOOKING AT OTHER POLICIES, THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS WE FOUND. 
          ONE, A COUNCIL MEMBER MAY ONLY REMOTELY ATTEND COUNCIL MEETINGS HELD IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBER. 
          A COUNCIL MEMBER MAY ONLY REMOTELY ATTEND ONE PUBLIC MEETING PER CALENDAR YEAR. 
          HOWEVER, THE MAYOR MAY ALLOW A COUNCIL MEMBER TO REMOTELY ATTEND ADDITIONAL MEETINGS FOR GOOD CAUSE THE MAYOR OR COUNCIL MEMBER ACTING AS THE PRESIDING OFFICER MUST ATTEND THE MEETING. 
          IN PERSON NOTIFICATION OF REMOTE PARTICIPATION MUST BE MADE AT LEAST ONE WEEK PRIOR TO THE MEETING. 
          NOTIFICATION OF REMOTE PARTICIPATION MUST BE MADE TO THE CITY'S SECRETARY DURING ANY EXECUTIVE SESSION OR CLOSED MEETING TO PROTECT CONFIDENTIALITY AND PRESERVE ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE. 
          THE COUNCIL MEMBER PARTICIPATING REMOTELY BY MEANS OF VIDEO CONFERENCE MUST SAFELY PROHIBIT ALL AUDIO AND VIDEO COMMUNICATION FROM BEING SEEN, HEARD, OR RECORDED. 
          MEMBERS DESIRING TO PARTICIPATE REMOTELY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ENSURING THAT THEY HAVE THE EQUIPMENT AND CON AND CONNECTIVITY TO MAKE THE CONNECTION. 
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NO MORE THAN TWO MEMBERS MAY VIDEO CONFERENCE AT ANY ONE TIME REQUEST FOR THOSE VIDEO CONFERENCES WOULD BE MADE ON A FIRST COME FIRST SERVE BASIS. 
          AND MEMBERS OF BOARDS, COMMISSIONS, AND COMMITTEES MAY NOT REMOTE REMOTELY ATTEND MEETINGS. 
          NOW, YOU HAVE TO REALIZE, AS WE WENT THROUGH THOSE BULLET POINTS, EACH COUNCIL THAT CONSIDERED THEIR POLICY, MADE THIS FOR THEM, HOWEVER THEIR SETUP WAS. 
          UH, THESE ARE THE, THE WAYS, WAYS THAT THEY PUT THEIR POLICY TOGETHER. 
          SO TAKING THAT INTO MIND AND INTO CONSIDERATION THAT REALLY BASES THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE'VE COME UP FOR YOU TONIGHT. 
          UH, TALKING FOR, OR LOOKING FIRST AT THE FIRST BULLET POINT, CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS THAT INVOLVE VIDEO CONFERENCE PARTICIPATION BY ONE OR MORE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS SHALL BE CONDUCTED IN COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW. 
          UH, REALLY IT'S JUST A GIVEN. 
          WE HAVE TO COMPLY IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THESE KINDS OF MEETINGS. 
          REMOTE PARTICIPATION SHALL BE LIMITED TO MEETINGS IN THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBER. 
          UH, AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS WE'LL LOOK AT IN THE NEXT SECTION IS THE TECHNOLOGY THAT'S REQUIRED TO MAKE THIS OCCUR. 
          UH, AND IN ORDER TO DO THAT TO AGAIN, MEET STATE LAW, ATTENDANCE FOR REMOTE PARTICIPATION SHALL BE FOR GOOD CAUSE, SICKNESS, WORK, FAMILY CARE. 
          UH, YOU'LL NOTICE THIS IS DIFFERENT THAN THE BULLET POINTS WE SAW BEFORE WHERE IT LIMITED TO EITHER ONE PER YEAR OR, UH, OTHER, UH, THINGS OF OTHER NATURE. 
          UM, IT'S REALLY LEFT IT UP TO YOU TO DETERMINE WHAT'S BEST FOR YOU BASED ON YOUR NEEDS. 
          REQUESTS FOR REMOTE PARTICIPATION SHOULD BE MADE TO THE CITY'S SECRETARY AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE. 
          UH, AGAIN, THERE WAS ONE THAT HAD THERE A WEEK IN ADVANCE, REALIZING THAT YOU MAY NOT ALWAYS KNOW A WEEK IN ADVANCE WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO GET SICK, OR IF THERE'S NECESSARY TRAVEL. 
          UH, THIS REALLY LEADS THAT OPEN, UH, BUT DOES CENTER IT ON A M E AND THE CITY'S SECRETARY'S OFFICE SO THAT ONCE THAT NOTIFICATION IS MADE, THEN THE COORDINATION COMPONENT OF THAT CAN, UH, OF THAT CAN BEGIN WITH CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, WITH WHOEVER THE PRESIDING OFFICER OF THE MEETING IS, AND WITH THE, IN THIS CASE, THE COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT, SO THAT THE NECESSARY EQUIPMENT CAN BE READY FOR THE REMOTE PARTICIPATION. 
          NO MORE THAN TWO MEMBERS MAY VIDEO CONFERENCE AT ANY ONE TIME REQUEST A VIDEO CONFERENCE WILL MADE ON A FIRST COME, FIRST COME FIRST SERVE BASIS. 
          THE NECESSITY FOR THIS AND, AND THE, UH, FOR THIS RECOMMENDATION IS A QUORUM BY CITY CHARTER FOR RICHARDSON, IS FIVE MEMBERS IN ATTENDANCE. 
          AND DON'T FORGET, STATE LAW SAYS THAT THE QUORUM MUST BE HERE. 
          SO THAT REALLY LIMITS YOU TO TWO MEMBERS BEING ABLE TO PARTICIPATE REMOTELY. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHY THAT RECOMMENDATION IS IN FOR A POLICY THAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER THE MAYOR OR CITY COUNCIL MEMBER ACTING AS THE PRESIDING OFFICER MUST BE PHYSICALLY PRESENT WHERE THE QUORUM OF THE MEETING IS LOCATED. 
          UH, THAT'S UP FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. 
          BECAUSE IF THERE WERE TECHNICAL ISSUES THAT COULD HAPPEN FROM THE PRESIDING OFFICER BEING OFFSITE AND NOT NECESSARILY HERE, UH, THEN THAT COULD DISRUPT THE MEETING IN OTHER WAYS. 
          SO, UH, THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT THE PRESIDING OFFICER BE THE ONE THAT'S CONDUCTING THE ME THE MEETING, UH, ON THE SITE WHERE THE QUORUM IS LOCATED, THE MEMBER OR MEMBERS DESIRING TO PARTICIPATE REMOTELY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ENSURING THAT THEY HAVE THE EQUIPMENT AND CONNECTIVITY TO MAKE THE CONNECTION. 
          NOW, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PROVIDED IPADS FROM THE CITY, AND THAT HAS A CAMERA BUILT ON BOARD, UH, AS WELL AS SOFTWARE THAT WE'LL, THAT WE CAN INSTALL SO THAT YOU CAN TAKE PART IN A REMOTE MEETING. 
          UH, AND SO WE HAVE, WE HAVE THAT COMPONENT AS, AS A SUPPORT MECHANISM. 
          YOU DON'T HAVE TO USE THAT. 
          YOU CAN USE YOUR OWN COMPUTER IF YOU WERE TRAVELING AND, UH, FOR INSTANCE, MAYBE YOU FORGOT IT AND YOU HAD YOUR LAPTOP. 
          HOWEVER, THE CONNECTIVITY IS A PORTION THAT WE REALLY CAN'T CONTROL TOO. 
          UH, IF YOU WERE TRAVELING OFFITE, YOU'RE EITHER ELSEWHERE, UH, IN THE STATES COULD BE OUTTA COUNTRY. 
          THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD DEPEND ON YOU, UH, TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHY WE RECOMMEND THAT AS A PART OF THE POLICY, THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WILL NOT BE PAUSED OR ADJOURNED DUE TO TECHNICAL ISSUES, HINDERING PARTICIPATION OF THE MEMBERS, OF THE MEMBER OR MEMBERS PARTICIPATING REMOTELY. 
          UH, THAT'S JUST THE HELP, UH, UH, WITH THE CONDUCTING OF THE MEETING, WE WOULD BE WORKING AS FAST AS WE COULD BEHIND THE SCENES TO TRY TO HELP WITH ANY TECHNICAL ISSUES. 
          UM, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION. 
          DURING ANY EXECUTIVE SESSION OR CLOSE MEETING, THE COUNCIL MEMBER OR MEMBERS PARTICIPATING REMOTELY BY MEANS OF VIDEO CONFERENCE MUST SAFELY PROHIBIT ALL AUDIO AND VIDEO COMMUNICATION FROM BEING SEEN, HEARD, OR RECORDED. 
          AND, UH, IS THE BULLET POINT THAT YOU SAW IN THE, UH, BY OTHER CITIES. 
          AGAIN, THAT'S, UH, FOR YOUR EXECUTIVE SESSIONS, THAT'S INFORMATION MEANT FOR YOU. 
          ONLY CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE ALLOWED TO REMOTELY ATTEND MEETINGS. 
          THE PRESIDING OFFICER MAY ALLOW STAFF TO ATTEND REMOTELY AGAIN FOR A GOOD CAUSE. 
          UH, THIS IS, AGAIN, UH, LEFT UP TO THE PRESIDING OFFICER TO ALLOW FOR THE CONDUCTING OF THE MEETING, UH, AS BEST AS CAN BE DONE. 
          AND MEMBERS OF BOARDS, COMMISSIONS, OR COMMITTEES MAY NOT REMOTELY ATTEND MEETINGS. 
          UM, SO THIS IS REALLY THE ONLY ROOM IN THE CITY. 
          BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS MEET IN A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT PLACES. 
          BUT HERE'S THE ONLY PLACE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT. 
          ALSO, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE DON'T, WE DON'T PROVIDE IPADS TO EVERY BOARD AND COMMISSION MEMBER. 
          UH, AND SO THE RECOMMENDATION, AT LEAST FOR NOW, WOULD BE THAT MEMBERS OF BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS WOULD, UH, AND COMMITTEES WOULD NOT BE, UH, UH, HAVING 
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THIS, THE ABILITY, ABILITY TO REMOTELY ATTEND MEETINGS. 
          AND SO, UH, SHOULD, SHOULD YOU DECIDE, UH, TO HAVE A POLICY IN PLACE, UH, AND AND UPON ANY POLICY APPROVAL THAT COULD OCCUR, UH, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS WOULD BE DESIGNED BASICALLY, BASICALLY TO MEET STATE REQUIREMENTS. 
          SO A PART OF THAT WOULD BE, WE'D HAVE TWO BIG SCREEN TVS THAT WOULD BE BROUGHT INTO THIS ROOM. 
          ONE WOULD BE FOR YOU SO THAT YOU COULD SEE, AGAIN, THE STATE LAW, THE DEMEANOR, AND HEAR THE PERSON THAT WOULD BE ATTENDING REMOTELY. 
          WE WOULD ALSO HAVE ANOTHER TELEVISION THAT WOULD BE FACING TOWARDS THE AUDIENCE. 
          AGAIN, THAT'S A REQUIREMENT BY STATE LAW THAT THEY TOO CAN ALSO SEE VISUALLY THE PERSON THAT'S TALKING AND HEAR THEM AS WELL. 
          UH, WE'LL USE BASICALLY REGULAR TELECONFERENCING SOFTWARE, UH, AFTER COVID THAT IS NOW, UH, FAIRLY STANDARD. 
          SO WE WOULD USE SOMETHING LIKE TEAMS OR ZOOM. 
          WE'LL TRY OUT YOUR IPAD, SEE WHAT WORKS WELL, UH, AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S INSTALLED AND, AND AVAILABLE. 
          UH, AND, UH, AND THAT'S WHERE I GET TO, WE HAVE THE COUNCIL IPADS WHERE, UM, WHERE, UH, THAT WOULD BE, UH, PART OF, PART OF THIS POLICY OR, OR THAT WE'D HAVE PREPARED SHOULD THIS POLICY, UH, GO INTO, UH, GO INTO PLACE. 
          SO WITH THAT, IT'S NOW OPEN TO DISCUSSION. 
          THANK YOU, GREG. 
          COUNSEL, ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? MR. HUTCHIN? WRITER. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          JUST TWO QUESTIONS. 
          UM, GREG, WOULD YOU MIND GOING BACK TO YOUR, TO YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS? SURE. 
          ONE'S A, A QUESTION AND THEN ONE'S JUST A TECH, MORE OF A TECHNICAL QUE OKAY. 
          SO ATTENDANCE FOR REMOTE PARTICIPATION SHALL BE FOR GOOD CAUSE SICKNESS WORK, FAMILY CARE. 
          UM, OCCASIONALLY WE HAVE SITUATIONS WHERE WE'RE TRAVELING BACK FROM VACATION AND FOR WHATEVER REASON, AIRLINES DON'T COOPERATE. 
          UM, OR SOME CASES WE'RE TRAVELING BACK FROM WORK AND AIRLINES DON'T, COULD, COULD THAT BE INCLUDED IN THERE AS WELL? UH, SO THOSE ARE JUST EXAMPLES WHEN WE SAY FOR GOOD CAUSE. 
          SO, UH, GOOD. 
          CAUSE YOU KNOW, YOUR TRAVELING WORK, TRAVEL OR, OR FAMILY TRAVEL, UH, I WOULD THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT COULD BE A DISCUSSION AMONG YOU, BUT, UH, THAT SOUNDS LIKE THAT WOULD BE A GOOD CAUSE. 
          IT'S, YOU, YOU HAVE SOMETHING INHIBITING YOUR ABILITY. 
          UH, AND SO BY NO OTHER MEANS DO YOU HAVE AVAILABLE, AND THIS, THIS COULD BE A WAY FOR YOU TO ATTEND. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE UNDERNEATH GOOD CAUSE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN SECOND QUESTION, AND THIS IS JUST BECAUSE I, I DON'T KNOW THE CHARTER COMPLETELY IN MY BRAIN, BUT LEMME GIVE THE SCENARIO. 
          UM, SO LET'S JUST SAY THAT OUR, OUR MAYOR IS OUT SICK. 
          I THINK BY CHARTER IT SAYS THE MAYOR'S SUPPOSED TO BE THE PRESIDING OFFICER, BUT IF HE'S OUT SICK, ACCORDING TO THIS POLICY, HE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DO THAT. 
          SO WOULD, DOES THAT, DOES THAT CREATE A CONFLICT WITHIN THE CHARTER THAT WE'D HAVE TO DEAL WITH? OR IS THAT, CAN A POLICY SUPERSEDE THE, THE CHARTER? DOES THAT MAKE SENSE WHAT I'M ASKING? I THINK THE LAW ACTUALLY SAYS THAT THE, THAT THE PRESIDING OFFICER HAS TO BE HERE. 
          SO IN THAT INSTANCE, EVEN IF THE MAYOR WANTED TO ATTEND VIRTUALLY THE MAYOR PRO PROM OR SOMEONE ELSE ON COUNCIL WOULD HAVE TO SERVE AS THE PRESIDING OFFICER IN THIS LOCATION. 
          RIGHT? I, I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I'M, I'M, WHAT I'M ASKING IS, IS DOES THE CHARTER ALLOW THAT, OR DO WE HAVE TO MAKE A CHARTER AMENDMENT? BECAUSE I THINK THE WAY THE CHARTER IS WRITTEN, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, AND I DON'T HAVE A COMPLETELY BY MEMORY, IS IT SAYS THE MAYOR SHALL SERVE. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO THAT, THAT'S MY ONLY QUESTION. 
          I, I AGREE WITH YOU 100%. 
          YEAH. 
          I'M JUST, HE WOULDN'T BE THE, HE WOULDN'T BE THE PRESIDING OFFICER THEN THE MAYOR PRO TEM WOULD THAT INSTANCE, WE, WE HAVE NO, AND I AGREE A HUNDRED PERCENT. 
          I JUST DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A CHARTER ISSUE WITH IT. 
          THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING. 
          UH, PETE, OUR CITY ATTORNEY, DID REVIEW THE POLICY AND, UM, HE, HE DID NOT MENTION ANY ISSUES WITH THAT. 
          SO, OKAY. 
          I BELIEVE AS, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE STATED, THE MAYOR PRO TEM WOULD RUN THE PRESIDE AT THE MEETING AT THE LOCATION. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, LET US, BUT, BUT IT'S, IT'S A VERY NUANCED QUESTION. 
          I THINK KEN'S ASKING, IT'S THAT IF THE CHARTER SAYS THE, IF THE MAYOR IS PRESENT, HE'S THE PRESIDING OFFICER. 
          YEAH. 
          IF HE'S, THAT'S WHAT I, IF HE'S PARTICIPATING REMOTELY, HE'S STILL PRESENT. 
          SO THE QUESTION WOULD BE, WOULD WE NEED TO TWEAK THE CHARTER TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE STATE LAW, WHICH SAYS, SO LET US, LET US, I KNOW IT'S A NUANCED QUESTION. 
          YEAH. 
          VERY, VERY NUANCED CONCERNED ME. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, UM, LET US, LET US, UM, JUST VET THAT WITH PETE. 
          UM, AND, UM, BUT YEAH, I THINK AMY MIGHT BE BRINGING IT UP, BUT BECAUSE THE MAYOR WITH THIS POLICY, THE MAYOR COULD BE IN ATTENDANCE, BUT WOULD BE PROHIBITED BY STATE LAW FROM BEING THE PRESIDING OFFICER. 
          RIGHT? SO IF THE CHARTER SAYS, IF THE MAYOR IS PRESENT, HE'S THE PRESIDING OFFICER, THERE'S A CONFLICT. 
          THAT'S ALL. 
          WE'LL, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'LL ASKING. 
          WE'LL, WE'LL GO DOWN THAT RABBIT TRAIL. 
          'CAUSE THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY, JOE, THANKS. 
          NO, JUST WANTED TO GO DOWN THE RABBIT TRAIL, BUT YOU GUYS  NO, UH, IT'S A NUANCE QUESTION. 
          I JUST DON'T WANNA GET IN TROUBLE. 
          NO, I MEAN, I HAVE IT UP HERE AND IT SAYS, UH, THE MAYOR PRO TEM WHO SHALL TEMPORARILY PERFORM THE DUTIES OF MAYOR IN CASE OF THE ABSENCE OR INABILITY OF THE MAYOR TO PERFORM THE DUTIES OF OFFICE. 
          SO TAKE THAT, I MEAN, TAKE THE WORD ABSENCE FOR I GUESS A VERY LITERAL, A 
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VERY LITERAL SENSE AND WORKS OR INABILITY STATE LAW TO FORM. 
          RIGHT? I THINK PETE IS THE, YEAH, YEAH. 
          PETE, THIS IS A PETE QUESTION. 
          YEAH, AGREED. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU, MS. JUSTICE. 
          YEAH, SO ON THE GOOD CAUSE I MEAN, I THINK, UM, I THINK PART OF THE CONCERN IN THE PAST OF HAVING A POLICY LIKE THIS IS THAT IT COULD BE ABUSED. 
          AND SO I THINK THAT WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHAT WE MEAN BY GOOD CAUSE THAT WAY WE ALL FEEL COMFORTABLE. 
          I DON'T THINK ANYONE UP HERE WOULD ABUSE IT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          BUT I THINK MAYBE WE SHOULD COME TO AN AGREEMENT ON WHAT THAT MEANS. 
          LIKE DO WE MEAN FOR EXAMPLE, VACATION OR DO WE JUST MEAN SICKNESS, UNEXPECTED WORK? UNAVOIDABLE WORK, OR, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I, SO I'D BE INTERESTED IN WHAT OTHERS THINK ABOUT THAT. 
          SHOULD WE REALLY FLESH THAT OUT AND, AND SAY WHAT WE MEAN BY GOOD CAUSE SO THAT WE ARE CLEAR ON THAT. 
          AND THEN ALSO, UM, I THINK LIMITING IT TO ONE MEETING IS, AND, AND NOT THAT THAT'S TOO FEW, I WOULD THINK, BUT I THINK THAT PERHAPS THAT WE SHOULD HAVE SOME SORT OF AN ADDITIONAL MECHANISM IN PLACE TO AVOID IT BEING ABUSED AGAIN, NOT US, MAYBE A FUTURE COUNCIL OR WHATEVER. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, TWO, THREE MEETINGS AND THEN FOR GOOD. 
          CAUSE YOU KNOW, THE MAYOR CAN ALLOW THEM, YOU KNOW, TO THE PRESIDING OFFICER CAN ALLOW THEM TO, YOU KNOW, MISS ADDITIONAL, YOU KNOW, GOD FORBID SOMEONE HAS CANCER AND, YOU KNOW, IS ABLE TO SERVE, BUT CAN'T BE AROUND OTHER PEOPLE AND NEEDS TO, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY MISS ADDITIONAL MEETINGS, SO ON AND SO FORTH. 
          SO I THINK IT'S WORTH AT LEAST HAVING A CERTAIN, A SET NUMBER AND THEN PROVIDING THAT FLEXIBILITY FOR A UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCE IF THEY, IF THEY NEED TO EXCEED THAT NUMBER. 
          THOSE ARE MY TWO INITIAL COMMENTS, MR. COR. 
          YEAH. 
          TO, IN REVERSE ORDER, COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE, I FEEL LIKE, UH, MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING WE COULD, WE COULD DO WHERE IT SAYS, YOU KNOW, AFTER A CERTAIN NUMBER OF MEETINGS, IT DOES START COUNTING AGAINST YOUR ATTENDANCE. 
          AND KIND OF GOING OFF THE CHARTER IDEA, I BELIEVE THERE'S SOMETHING, THE CHARTER WHERE A COUNCIL MEMBER CAN'T MISS, HAS TO BE IN ATTENDANCE FOR A CERTAIN NUMBER OF MEETINGS BEFORE SOMETHING HAPPENS TO THEM ON THIS BODY, RIGHT? I'M NOT, I DON'T REALLY REMEMBER WHAT IT'S, BUT I THINK THAT COULD BE A, A GOOD WAY TO DO THAT. 
          AND THEN TO 0.1, I MEAN, I'M, WHILE I'M NOT NECESSARILY OPPOSED TO THE VACATION PART OF IT, I DO THINK KEEPING IT LIMITED TO THINGS LIKE VERY SPECIFICALLY LIKE SICKNESS WORK, FAMILY CARE IS, WOULD BE MY PREFERENCE, BUT IT'S NOT A STRONG PREFERENCE. 
          YEAH, NO, I AGREE ON THE, THE, I THINK THAT YOU ARE, I MEAN, I GUESS, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A NUANCED QUESTION FOR P TWO, BUT I THINK YOU ARE TECHNICALLY IN ATTENDANCE. 
          AND SO I THINK, I THINK YOU WANNA AVOID THE APPEARANCE THAT SOMEONE COULD BE ABUSED ABUSING A POLICY LIKE THIS BY, YOU KNOW, WELL I HAD TO TRAVEL, YOU KNOW, EIGHT WEEKS OR SOMETHING AND YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO ATTEND VIRTUALLY. 
          AND SO AGAIN, THE EXAMPLE I USE IS LIKE AN INSTANCE, AN EXTREME EXAMPLE THAT SOMEONE WHO IS IMMUNOCOMPROMISED, FOR EXAMPLE, AND CANNOT BE AROUND OTHER PEOPLE, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, SO LIKE, THEY MAY NEED TO GO TO THE MAYOR AND SAY, I'VE HIT MY THREE, BUT I NEED YOU TO GIVE ME PERMISSION. 
          I, I'M ABLE TO SERVE, YOU KNOW, THAT. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE MY PREFERENCE IS WE DECIDE HOW MANY ABSENCES WE WANNA ALLOW AND THEN ALSO GIVE THAT FLEXIBILITY FOR A UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCE LIKE AN IMMUNO COMPROMISED, UM, SITUATION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEAH, CURTIS, I'M JUST, I'M JUST BASICALLY GOING TO AGREE. 
          I THINK ONE IS NOT ENOUGH IN THE EVENT. 
          NOT THAT ANY OF US ARE GOING TO JUST MISS, TO MISS, BUT IT WOULD HAVE TO BE SOMETHING OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE AN ACCIDENT OR A FAMILY CARE OR SICKNESS. 
          BUT I THINK ONE IS LIMITED OVER A 12 MONTH PERIOD, SO I'D LIKE TO CONSIDER THAT MAYBE A MINIMUM OF THREE. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MINIMUM WOULD BE, UM, BASED ON THAT. 
          UM, I JUST FEEL LIKE THAT'S PROBABLY MORE APPROPRIATE. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR PRO TIM. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. 
          AND WELL, THAT'S WONDERFUL. 
          I MEAN, I'M HAVING THIS OPTION, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS GREAT. 
          NOW I SEE THAT, I KNOW THAT THERE IS LIKE OPTIONS THERE ONE DAY, BUT I THINK THERE IS ANOTHER BULLET POINT THAT SAYS THAT MAY CAN CONSIDER ADDITIONAL DAYS. 
          UH, DID I MISS THE BULLET POINT? I SHOULD HAVE WRITTEN DOWN, UH, THAT, THAT WAS IN THE REVIEW OF THE OTHER POLICIES THAT WERE IN PLACE. 
          SO WHEN WE LOOK HERE, UH, HOWEVER, THE MAYOR MAY ALLOW A COUNCIL MEMBER TO REMOTELY ATTEND ADDITIONAL MEETINGS FOR A GOOD CAUSE. 
          THAT WAS IN OUR REVIEW OF OTHER POLICIES THAT WERE IN PLACE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT'S, UH, YEAH, THAT IS AN OPTION. 
          IT'S NOT TOTALLY TAKEN OUT, I GUESS. 
          IS THAT MAY, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE HAD LEFT IT OPEN-ENDED, ESSENTIALLY IT WAS BASICALLY FOR THIS EXACT KIND OF DISCUSSION TO OCCUR TO FIND WHAT YOU AS A COUNSEL, THE DIRECTION YOU WANTED TO GO IN THAT MANNER? YEAH, I THINK ONE IS LIKE HAVING SPECIFIC ONE IS DIFFICULT. 
          UH, BUT CURRENTLY WE DON'T HAVE ANY, UH, SO ANYTHING WILL IMPROVE DEFINITELY. 
          UH, BUT YOU KNOW, IN THE FUTURE, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW NONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBER EVEN THINK ABOUT TAKING A VACATION, UH, BECAUSE OF THE COUNCIL MEETING. 
          AND, UH, 
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MOST OF THE TIME THAT'S REALLY THE CAUSE THAT WE CAN TAKE THE VACATION. 
          'CAUSE WE HAVE ONLY CERTAIN WEEK IN THE YARD THAT WE CAN TAKE VACATION. 
          AND THAT CERTAIN WEEK PROBABLY DOESN'T WORK FOR THE OTHER FAMILY MEMBERS OR DOESN'T WORK FOR THE AIRLINE TICKET. 
          SO  OR FOR, FOR, OR EVEN FOR THE BUDGET. 
          SO THIS, YOU KNOW, HAVING GOOD, CAUSE I THINK THAT'S A RELATIVE ISSUE. 
          LIKE WHAT IS GOOD CAUSE, UH, OR INSTEAD OF THAT MAY BE REASONABLE CAUSE THEN PUT SOME SPECIFIC OF THOSE AND THEN OPTION, LEAVE THE OPTION TO THE COUNCIL TO DECIDE, UH, IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE NOT THOUGHT ABOUT. 
          BUT, UH, POTENTIALLY ABUSING THE SYSTEM IS DEFINITELY CONCERNED. 
          LIKE IF WE HAVE THIS THING LONG TERM, AND I DON'T SEE THAT'S HAPPENING TO THIS COUNCIL, BUT PEOPLE'S MIND CHANGE OVER THAT TIME. 
          SO, UH, SO HAVING THREE IS WAY TOO MUCH ALSO, UNLESS SOMEONE IS REALLY NEEDED. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT COULD BE AN ABUSE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S FLEXIBILITY TO TAKE THAT THREE DAYS. 
          BUT IF SOMEBODY TAKE THAT THREE DAYS BECAUSE YEAH, I HAVE THREE DAYS SO THAT I WOULD CONSIDER THAT ABUSE. 
          UM, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW TO AVOID THOSE KIND OF THINGS, BUT THESE ARE ALL DISCUSSION FOR THE LAWYERS AT LEAST I THINK, UH, DIFFERENT MINDS. 
          SO I THINK THAT HOW MANY DAYS WOULD YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH? TWO? ONE FROM PROBABLY TWO WOULD BE BETTER. 
          UH, THREE IS, UH, TOO MUCH. 
          ONE IS VERY, LIKE, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT COULD HAPPEN BECAUSE IF YOU TAKE SOME, SOMETHING HAPPENED AND YOU SAY, OKAY, I'LL TAKE THIS ONE, AND THEN YOU DON'T KNOW, SOMETHING ELSE CAN HAPPEN. 
          SURE. 
          THEN I PREFER SOMETIMES IF I HAVE OPTIONS TO TAKE, LIKE I'M TAKING CURRENTLY NOR TEXAS, UH, THE LEADERSHIP, LEADERSHIP NORTH TEXAS. 
          YEAH. 
          LEADERSHIP NORTH TEXAS. 
          AND THERE'S OPTION THAT I CAN HAVE HOW MANY HOURS? 14 HOURS, RIGHT? MM-HMM. 
          . 
          AND, UH, I HAD A PLAN FOR VACATION THIS YEAR, AND IF I TAKE THAT VACATION DAY, THAT MEANS I'M TAKING OUT SEVEN HOURS RIGHT FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE PROGRAM. 
          SO I'M REALLY NERVOUS ABOUT TAKING SEVEN DAYS BEGINNING OF THE PROGRAM INSTEAD OF TOWARDS THE END. 
          SO I'M POST POSTPONING MY VACATION BECAUSE OF THAT. 
          SO THERE IS SOME TECHNICAL THINGS THAT'S PERSONAL ISSUE. 
          IT'S NOT NOTHING TO DO WITH, I'D RATHER TAKE VACATION TOWARDS THE END SO THAT I KNOW THAT I'M NOT MISSING UP THE SYSTEM. 
          SO HAVING PROBABLY MULTIPLE DAY WOULD BE BETTER. 
          TWO DAYS, UH, THAT'S MY OPINION. 
          AND I WOULD EXPAND AGREE THAT PUT THE REASONABLE CALLS WITH LITTLE MORE DETAIL GOOD. 
          CAUSE GOOD IS VERY RELATED TERM. 
          SOMETIMES. 
          YEAH, WE CAN SAY GOOD ONE, BUT SOMETIMES SOMEBODY ELSE SAID, THIS IS GOOD, BUT THAT COULD BE HORRIBLE THINGS. 
          SO I WOULD JUST SAY REASONABLE CAUSE AND THEN DEFINE SOME OF THE PART THERE. 
          THAT'S MY CURTIS, UM, QUESTION TO YOUR POINT. 
          UM, I, UH, HOW MANY, UH, JUST BASED ON HISTORY, HOW MANY HAS, HAVE COUNCIL MEMBERS MISSED MORE THAN TWO DAYS A YEAR WITH THAT? THERE, THERE WAS ONE INSTANCE A FEW YEARS BACK WHERE WE, WE HAD A COUNCIL MEMBER THAT PROBABLY, UM, IT WAS PROBABLY CLOSE TO A DOZEN TO 15 DAYS. 
          BUT, UM, THAT'S VERY RARE AND UNUSUAL. 
          I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE TIME IT MIGHT BE PROBABLY TWO OR LESS MM-HMM. 
          ? UM, I MEAN, GENERALLY SPEAKING, I THINK, I MEAN, I DON'T THINK ANYONE'S GOING TO ABUSE IT. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, PURPOSELY, UM, YOU KNOW, THREE I THOUGHT WAS ADEQUATE. 
          I MEAN, EVEN ONE A QUARTER IF THAT WAS, IF SOMETHING DRASTIC HAPPENED WITH, YOU KNOW, WITH APPROVAL. 
          BUT, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF US HAVE REALLY MISSED ANY TODAY SO FAR, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, I THINK A FEW WOULD BE MORE ADEQUATE. 
          WELL, LET ME ADD SOMETHING RIGHT HERE. 
          DO WE NEED TO CLARIFY, BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LIMITING THESE TO A ZOOM, NOT NECESSARILY WHAT YOU HAVE MISSED. 
          THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT, THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF THINGS. 
          YES. 
          AND SO YOU HAVE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES. 
          AND IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GIVE NOTICE PRIOR TO A WEEK AHEAD OF TIME, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT THE EMERGENCY SITUATION. 
          THESE ARE PLANNED OUT THINGS, BUT WE DIDN'T PUT THAT IN THERE. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT, THAT, THAT WAS, THAT WAS A RECOMMENDATION THAT SOMEONE ELSE DID. 
          SOMEBODY ELSE DID HERE. 
          CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          WELL, EITHER, EITHER WAY IT'S STILL NOT THE SAME THING BECAUSE WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY ZOOMING IF IT'S A LAST MINUTE EMERGENCY. 
          SO PERHAPS TOO, WITH THE ABILITY FOR THE MAYOR TO, UH, WHATEVER, WHATEVER REASONABLE OR GOOD CAUSE IS DETER DEFINED AS THE PERHAPS TWO, AND THEN IF THERE'S A THIRD NECESSARY, THE MAYOR CAN CONSIDER IT. 
          AND IF IT'S, IT ALIGNS WITH YOUR GOOD CAUSE, UH, DEFINITION, THE AMERICAN GRANT AN ADDITIONAL, 
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YOU KNOW, 1, 2, 3, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE. 
          SO WHAT LET'S, JOE, WHAT YOU GOT? UM, NO, I, UH, BROADLY WHETHER IT'S MAYBE LIKE THREE IN A TWO YEAR TERM, TWO A YEAR. 
          I MEAN, I THINK KEEPING THE NUMBER SMALL AND EXPANDING THE NUMBER OF CAUSES WITH, YOU KNOW, THE PRESIDING OFFICER OR THE MAYOR'S DISCRETION, I THINK IS, IS FAIR. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO IT'S, THAT'S MY ONLY CONTRIBUTION. 
          MR. HUDSON. 
          I, THE ONLY THING, AND AGAIN, KIND OF LIKE COUNCILWOMAN JUSTICE SAID, I DO NOT IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM DIRECT THAT AT THIS COUNCIL, BUT UNFORTUNATELY A POLICY LIKE THIS DOWN THE ROAD, FIVE, 10 YEARS, WHEN WE LOOK AT OTHER CITIES, UNFORTUNATELY COULD, COULD BE MY WORDS COULD BE WEAPONIZED. 
          AND SO IF FOR WHATEVER REASON, THAT'S PROBABLY NOT A GREAT WORD, BUT JUST UNDERSTAND IT'S HARSH. 
          I KNOW THAT, I DON'T KNOW, I COULD THINK OF ANOTHER BETTER WORD. 
          SO GIMME ANOTHER WORD. 
          I'LL TAKE ANY OTHER WORD. 
          BUT ANYWAY, MY, MY CONCERN WOULD BE IS LET'S FAST FORWARD 10 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, THE MAYOR AND A COUNCIL PERSON ARE IN A CONFLICT FOR WHATEVER REASON. 
          AND THE, THE COUNCIL PERSON NEEDS TO, TO, TO ZOOM IN. 
          AND THE MAYOR SAYS, NO, I'M NOT GONNA LET YOU, 'CAUSE I DON'T, I, YOU KNOW, AT THE END OF THE DAY, I DON'T WANT YOU INVOLVED IN THE DISCUSSION. 
          I, I JUST, I ALWAYS WORRY, WORRY ABOUT UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES DOWN THE ROAD. 
          I HAVE, PLEASE, MAYOR, NONE OF IT'S DIRECTED ANYBODY ON THIS COUNCIL TODAY, I DON'T HAVE ZERO CONCERN. 
          BUT I COULD SEE THAT HAPPENING DOWN THE ROAD AS WE GET FURTHER ALONG, SOMEONE COULD USE THIS POLICY IN A, IN A NEGATIVE SENSE. 
          SO I, I, I DO KIND OF FEEL LIKE WE OUGHT TO LOCK IN SOME AMOUNT OF DAYS THAT A, THAT A COUNCIL PERSON CAN UTILIZE AND THEN STILL HAVE A, YOU KNOW, THE DISCRETION OF THE PRESIDING OFFICER. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE NEEDS TO BE AN APPEAL IN THAT JUST TO PREVENT ANY UNINTENDED CON CONSEQUENCE 20 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD. 
          SO I JUST, I JUST THROW THAT OUT THERE AND I, I ACTUALLY, I SAID TO JOE, THE, THE THREE, MAYBE THREE AND TWO YEAR TERM MM-HMM. 
          , BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE SIGNED ON FOR A TWO YEAR TERM MM-HMM. 
           WHEN YOU GET, ELECT WHEN YOU TURN IN YOUR FORMS. SO THAT, THAT WAS WHAT MY, I WAS THINKING IS, IS IF WE HAD, IF WE HAD THREE THAT WE UTILIZE ANYTHING PAST THAT HAS TO BE TAKEN BEFORE THE MAYOR, OR TAKEN TO THE MAYOR, I SHOULD SAY, AND THEN JUST HAVE SOME FORM OF AN APPEAL PROCESS. 
          SO IF ANYBODY, IF, IF A FUTURE MAYOR DOWN 10 YEARS FROM NOW TRIED TO, I'M GONNA USE THE WORD WEAPONIZE. 
          'CAUSE IT'S ONLY WAY I KNOW, THE ONLY WORD I KNOW TO USE. 
          IT MADE BETTER SENSE WHEN YOU FINISHED YOUR THOUGHT. 
          . 
          THANK YOU MA'AM. 
          , I LOVE IT WHEN PEOPLE WORDSMITH ME. 
          'CAUSE I DON'T, I NEVER SAY I HAVE THE BEST WORD CHOICE, BUT I JUST, I COULD JUST SEE THAT HAPPENING SOMEWHERE DOWN THE ROAD. 
          SO HOW ABOUT, HOW ABOUT IF WE TRIED TO OPERATIONALIZE SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF THE REQUEST, UH, THE FOURTH, UH, MISSED MEETING WOULD BE, UH, THE REQUESTS WOULD BE SUBMITTED TO THE MAYOR. 
          IF THE MAYOR DENIED, THEN THERE WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT COUNCIL MEMBER TO APPEAL TO THE WHOLE COUNCIL. 
          AND ALL THEY WOULD NEED IS FOR OTHER VOTES TO SAY YES. 
          HOW, HOW DO IT'S JUSTICE, HOW DO WE DO THAT? LIKE, IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE VOTING ON SOMETHING THAT WE ARE, IT'S NOT ON AN AGENDA. 
          SO LIKE THAT WAS BE ANOTHER KEY QUESTION. 
          LIKE HOW DO WE  WE'LL HAVE TO FIGURE, BUT I'M, I'M JUST SAYING FROM A, FROM A, AN APPROACH STANDPOINT, I MEAN, I'M HEARING FROM, UH, COUNCILMAN HUNTER THAT, YOU KNOW, IF THE, IF THE MAYOR UNILATERALLY SAID NO TO A FOURTH FOR SOME REASON, THAT THAT COUNCIL PERSON SHOULD HAVE SOME OTHER KIND OF DUE PROCESS TO KIND OF WORK THROUGH. 
          AND SO IF THAT'S THE, IF THAT'S KIND OF THE GIST OF IT, BUT WE'LL TAKE THAT AS HOMEWORK AND GO OPERATIONALIZE THAT WITH, UH, SEE WITH PETE AND KIND OF SEE HOW WE CAN MAKE, MAKE A, SOMETHING, SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT. 
          'CAUSE I JUST WATCH OTHER COUNCILS AROUND THE METROPLEX MM-HMM. 
          , AND THEY CAN GET INTO SOME UGLY BATTLES AND I COULD SEE IT RIGHT. 
          20 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD. 
          YEP. 
          AND I REALIZE IT'S A POLICY, SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY SET COMPLETELY IN STONE. 
          SO YOU COULD ALWAYS DO AWAY WITH A POLICY, BUT I JUST ALWAYS LIKED THAT APPEAL PROCESS. 
          SO IN THE EVENT THAT THERE WAS THAT CONFLICT DOWN THE ROAD, THAT IT'S, THAT THERE IS THAT ABILITY. 
          AND, AND I, I AGREE WITH COUNCILWOMAN JUSTICE. 
          I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU OPERATIONALIZE THAT, BELIEVE THAT TO PETE, BUT, OR OKAY. 
          I, I, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A VERY GOOD POINT, VALID POINT. 
          AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, IF WE PUT LIKE FOUR MAXS IN TWO YEARS, INSTEAD OF GIVING ANY KIND OF OTHER PROCESS, BECAUSE WHENEVER YOU GO THROUGH SOME OTHER PROCESS, IT'S, THAT COULD BE AN ISSUE JUST FOR, NOT SOMETHING THAT IMPORTANT. 
          BUT IT COULD BE AN ISSUE FOR, FOR THE COUNCIL AND, YOU KNOW, FOCUS COULD BE LOST FROM THE IMPORTANT TOPIC THAT THIS ONE. 
          SO I WOULD, YOU KNOW, IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN FOUR IN TWO YEARS. 
          BUT THIS IS, AGAIN, THAT MISSING A MEETING IS NOT STILL AN OPTION. 
          SO THIS IS GONNA BE THAT, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY ATTEND THE COUNCIL MEETING THROUGH THE ZOOM OR TEAM REMOTELY, SO THERE THAT MEANS HE OR SHE'S COUNTED THAT HE WAS IN THE MEETING MM-HMM. 
          . 
          BUT AGAIN, IN THE MEETING, IF THEY LOST SOME CONNECTION, THEY WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, UH, ABSENT FOR THE PORTION OF THE MEETING, THEY WERE NOT THERE. 
          SO WHAT THAT DOES NOT 
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TAKE THE COUNCIL POSITION OUT BECAUSE THE PERSON WAS, YOU KNOW, HAS MISSED THE MISSED ONE MEETING OR TWO MEETING FOR SOME REASON. 
          THAT'S LIKE, I, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY, ANY NUMBER WRITTEN ON THE ANYWHERE THAT SAYS THAT COUNCIL NEED TO BE PRESENT 10, YOU KNOW, THIS MANY MEETINGS. 
          THERE IS NO LIMIT RIGHT NOW, I DID NOT SEE ANYWHERE ON THIS. 
          THERE'S, THERE'S NOT A LIMIT. 
          ARE, ARE YOU, THERE'S NO LIMIT ON THE, WELL, THERE'S NOT A LIMIT ON THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF MEETINGS A COUNCILPERSON CAN MISS. 
          IS THAT, I MEAN, THAT'S TRUE. 
          I'M SORRY, CAN YOU SAY REPEAT IT? I THINK, I THINK WHAT MAYOR PRO TIM'S ASKING IS PER THE CHARTER, THERE'S NOWHERE IN THE CHARTER THAT SAYS YOU CAN'T MISS MORE THAN X NUMBER OF MEETINGS OR YOU CANNOT, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T BE ABSENT FOR X NUMBER OF MEETINGS OR, OR THERE'S SOME CONSEQUENCE. 
          I MEAN, THAT'S JUST CORRECT. 
          THAT'S ADDRESS. 
          SO THAT'S STILL OUT THERE. 
          WE'RE NOT CHANGING THAT, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T ATTEND THE MEETING, THAT MEANS THAT NEXT, THE VOTER, THEY'RE GONNA SPEAK TWO YEARS AFTER THAT. 
          BUT I HAVE NOT SEEN, YOU KNOW, AS OF TODAY THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS HAS ABUSED THE SYSTEM. 
          UH, I SEE MOSTLY MOST OF THE COUNCIL MEMBER REALLY PRESENT, YOU KNOW, ATTENDED EVERY SINGLE MEETING FOR YEARS AFTER YEARS. 
          SO, UH, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S THE CULTURE OF . 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, BUT WE DON'T KNOW THE FUTURE THOUGH. 
          WHO KNOWS? UH, SO YOU, I'M, I'M OKAY WITH, YOU KNOW, HAVING LIMIT FOR TWO YEARS MORE THAN TWO IF THAT'S THE CASE. 
          BUT I WOULD AVOID GIVING AN OPTION JUST TO THE MAYOR OR EVEN THE COUNCIL TO GO ON BOARD, DISCUSS THIS BECAUSE THIS IS NOT MISSING ONE MEETING, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL. 
          UH, AND MOST OF THE TIME, YOU KNOW, THE AGENDA IS PREPARED FOR THE BENEFIT OF OUR WHOLE CITY, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEONE IS MISS, YOU KNOW, ABSENT OR REMOTE. 
          SO AGENDA WOULD BE ADJUSTED, YOU KNOW, IF WE KNOW THOSE THINGS HARDLY ENOUGH. 
          SO, UM, I THINK I'M OKAY WITH WHATEVER OPTION THAT WE DISCUSS. 
          THIS IS JUSTICE. 
          YEAH. 
          I THINK THE, THE IDEA OF COUNCILMAN HUTCHMAN WRITER ABOUT, AND ABOUT TYING IT TO YOUR TERM VERSUS CALENDAR YEAR, BECAUSE YOU COME IN IN MAY AND THEN THERE'S A FIVE MONTH PERIOD AT THE BEGINNING OF YOUR LAST YEAR, YOU KNOW, SO I, YOU KNOW, IF YOU SAY TWO PER CALENDAR YEAR, THAT COULD TECHNICALLY BE SIX IF YOU, SOMEBODY REALLY WANTED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE. 
          SO I'M FINE SAYING, UH, YOU KNOW, IF IF THE SPIRIT WAS, WE WANTED TWO PER CALENDAR YEAR, THEN MAYBE FOUR PER TWO YEAR TERM, UM, WOULD, WOULD SORT OF MATCH THE SPIRIT OF THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND THEN, SO I AGREE. 
          IF EVERYBODY'S GOOD WITH THAT, THEN I THINK THE QUESTION IS WHAT DO WE MEAN BY GOOD CAUSE, RIGHT? RIGHT. 
          I THINK WE NEED TO SETTLE THAT SO WE CAN COME BACK WITH AN ORDINANCE. 
          WHAT DO WE MEAN BY, WHAT DO WE MEAN BY THAT? YEAH, FROM THE DISCUSSION. 
          THE ONLY THING THAT I, SO, SO OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, THE, THE COUNCIL MEMBER IS ILL AND CAN'T ATTEND THE MEETING. 
          THEY'RE, I WOULD, I WOULD THINK IF THEY WERE, YOU KNOW, CARRYING LIKE FAMILY, UH, FAMILY SICK, UM, CARING FOR AN IMMEDIATE MEMBER OF THE HOUSEHOLD WHO WAS ILL OR, UM, AND THEN OF COURSE IF IT WAS A UNAVOIDABLE WORK CONFLICT. 
          UM, THE ONLY OTHER THING I HEARD THROWN AROUND MAYBE WAS, UM, VACATION. 
          SO I THINK, WOULD I BE ELIGIBLE OR NOT? OR, OR A, AN ACCIDENT ON, ON A VACATION AS LONG AS, WELL, WE'RE TALKING TWO DIFFERENT THINGS MISSING AND THEN ZOOMING. 
          'CAUSE YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE GOING TO ALLOW THEM TWO ZOOMS PER TERM. 
          IS THAT WHAT I UNDERSTOOD? FOUR FOUR. 
          FOUR PER FOUR PER TERM. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THE QUESTION WOULD BE IF, WOULD, WOULD SOMEONE BE ALLOWED TWO PER TERM RIGHT FROM VACATION? YES. 
          IF THEY'RE, IF A VACATION WAS KIND OF, YOU KNOW, TRANSCENDING A COUPLE OF WEEKS AND THEY WERE GONNA BE OUT IN MISSING MONDAY, WOULD YOU BE OKAY WITH THAT PERSON ZOOMING IN FOR THAT MEETING SO THEY COULD PARTICIPATE IF IT WAS A VACATION VERSUS A ILL ILLNESS OR A FAMILY ILLNESS OR A UNAVOIDABLE WORK? I WOULD SAY YES. 
          I THINK THAT'S THE INTENT OF IT. 
          AND I THINK EVERYBODY IS PROFESSIONAL ENOUGH TO, YOU KNOW, SAY, HEY, I WANT TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT. 
          I WANNA BE THERE. 
          HOWEVER, IT'S JUST IMPOSSIBLE OR IT'S NOT PROBABLE OR IT'S FINANCIALLY PROHIBITIVE TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. 
          I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF REASONS IT COULD HAPPEN. 
          SO, UM, SO LET ME JUST ASK THIS RHETORICALLY, IS THERE A REASON THEN, TO HAVE THIS, I MEAN, ARE YOU OKAY IF, IF IT'S ONLY FOUR TIMES IN A TWO YEAR TERM? IF, IF, IS THERE ANY OTHER REASON YOU WOULD ALL ALLOW, I MEAN, YOU WOULD BE OKAY WITH, I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS DO WE HAVE TO DEFINE A GOOD REASON IF IT'S ONLY FOUR TIMES IN A TWO YEAR, YOU KNOW, OR IF IT'S LIMITED TO FOUR TIMES IN THE, IN A, IN A TWO YEAR TERM? ARE WE, YES, I THINK YOU NEED TO HAVE IT. 
          I DON'T THINK IT'S LIKE, I DON'T FEEL LIKE BEING AROUND THOSE PEOPLE TONIGHT, SO I'M NOT GONNA GO UP THERE. 
          I MEAN, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? LIKE, WHATEVER, I'VE HAD A TOUGH DAY AT WORK AND I JUST REALLY WANNA HAVE PAJAMA PANTS ON AND NOT HAVE TO GO TO LIKE, OKAY, AGAIN, GOING TO A FUTURE COUNCIL THAT COULD ABUSE THIS POLICY. 
          I THINK YOU NEED TO HAVE A LEGITIMATE REASON OKAY. 
          NOT TO BE PRESENT. 
          [00:45:01]
OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IT SOUNDS LIKE, UM, AGAIN, THE COUNCIL MEMBER IS ILL, THE COUNCIL MEMBER IS, UH, TAKEN CARE OF OR ATTENDING TO A, A SICK, UH, FAMILY MEMBER, THINGS LIKE THAT, OR, UM, UNAVOIDABLE WORK, TRAVEL OR A VACATION THAT'S TAKEN 'EM OUT OF THE IMMEDIATE AREA. 
          YES, I AGREE. 
          OKAY. 
          JUST, JUST ONE QUESTION, MR. MAYOR, CAN I SAY SOMETHING? PLEASE DO. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          SO HOW DO WE SAY THIS? I DON'T KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT SOMETIMES IF SOMEONE IS SICK AND STILL WANT TO JOIN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IF SOMEONE ON VACATION, HE OR SHE'S IN A GOOD HEALTH, IS HE HAS THE FULL SENSE MOST OF THE TIME. 
          UH, AND SO JOINING A MEETING IS THERE, WE CAN PUT SOME KIND OF WARNING THAT IT NEED TO BE LIKE, HAVE TO HAVE SOMEONE IN FULL, LIKE THEIR MIND NEED TO BE STILL CLEAR, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          BECAUSE IF YOU ARE OUT AND STILL SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M GONNA JOIN THE MEETING AND CREATE A SCENE, SOMETHING ON VACATION, OR EVEN SOMEONE SICK UNDER MEDICATION, RIGHT? UH, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHEN SOMEONE IS HERE BECAUSE THAT IS ONE THING, BUT REMOTELY, UH, MEETING COULD BE DISRUPTIVE. 
          SO MAYBE PUT SOME CLAUSE THERE THAT NEED TO BE WELL, I THINK, I THINK EACH OF YOU AS ELECTED OFFICIALS HAVE THE DUTY ALREADY TO MAKE SURE THAT IF YOU'RE PARTICIPATING, YOU'RE OF SOUND MIND. 
          AND I, I, I, I FEEL LIKE THAT'S ALREADY ADDRESSED. 
          AMY, DO YOU HAVE ANY OPINION ON THAT? YEAH, I THINK THERE'S A RESPONSIBILITY. 
          SO YOU'RE SAYING IF SOMEBODY'S MAYBE ILL, AND THEY'RE ON MEDICATION, BUT THEN THEY SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, AND THAT MEDICATION'S IMPACTING THEIR ABILITY TO THINK THROUGH THINGS, BUT THEY SAY, NO, I'M GONNA PARTICIPATE, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          AND THEY END UP SAYING SOMETHING. 
          PERFECT EXAMPLE IS WE, AND AGAIN, PUTTING ON MY PROFESSIONAL HOSPITAL HAT, WE TELL EVERYONE, IF YOU'VE HAD ANESTHESIA, DO NOT DRIVE A CAR, DO NOT MAKE DECISIONS, DON'T DO ANYTHING FOR A 24 HOUR PERIOD. 
          SO, I MEAN, I, I, I DON'T KNOW, I I DON'T DISAGREE WITH, WITH AMERIPRO TIM TO SAY, YOU KNOW, IF, IF I HAD A PROCEDURE AT NINE O'CLOCK THIS MORNING, I SHOULDN'T BE IN THIS ROOM AND I SHOULDN'T BE ON ZOOM TRYING TO PARTICIPATE BASED ON THAT, THAT CLAUSE MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT NEEDS TO BE WRITTEN OR WE JUST NEED TO HOLD OURSELVES TO THAT STANDARD. 
          I, I DON'T KNOW THE RIGHT ANSWER, BUT IT'S A FAIR POINT. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S ALL. 
          THAT'S FINE. 
          THAT POINT, YEAH. 
          JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT WE, WE ALL KNOW WHAT WE DID NOT MISS ANYTHING GOINGLY ON THE DISCUSSION. 
          IF, IF THAT'S NOT CAPTURED ALREADY BY THE CHARTER, I FEEL LIKE THERE'S ANOTHER, UH, BULLET THAT WE COULD ADD THAT JUST WOULD SAY THAT IF THE PERSON IS GONNA PARTICIPATE REMOTELY, THEN THEY NEED TO BE, UM, BOTH PHYSICALLY AND MENTALLY OR, YOU KNOW, CAPABLE OF PERFORMING THEIR DUTIES. 
          IS THAT THE SPIRIT OF YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          YEP. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          ANY MORE COMMENTS, THOUGHTS? SO MAYOR, I THINK WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO, UM, PROBABLY, UM, BRING THIS BACK, UM, BEFORE WE PUT IT ON FOR A FORMAL ACTION. 
          IT'D BE A VERY SHORT BRIEFING, BUT JUST BRING IT BACK ONE MORE TIME AND KIND OF HOL HOLISTICALLY RUN THROUGH ALL OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS WITH THESE NEW KIND OF ADS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT. 
          AND THEN, SO WE MIGHT HAVE ONE MORE SHORT BRIEFING JUST TO CONFIRM, AND THEN WE'LL PUT IT ON FOR ACTION PROBABLY AT A, THE FOLLOWING MEETING. 
          THAT SOUND GOOD? PERFECT. 
          GREAT. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT, LET'S GO. 
          THANK YOU, GREG. 
          APPRECIATE YOUR HARD WORK ON THAT. 
          AND 
          [D. REVIEW AND DISCUSS STRATEGIES TO PROMOTE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND INVOLVEMENT]
WE'LL GO TO ITEM D I, ITEM D, REVIEW AND DISCUSS STRATEGIES TO PROMOTE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND INVOLVEMENT. 
          MR. MAGNAR. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UH, AGAIN, UM, FOLLOWING, UH, THIS, THIS PRIOR BRIEFING, THIS IS ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE KIND OF ACTION ITEMS COMING OUT OF OUR, YOUR GOALS DEVELOPMENT SESSION THAT SATURDAY THAT I FELT THERE WAS ENOUGH CONSENSUS TO GO AHEAD AND LAUNCH ON. 
          WHAT I'VE ASKED GREG TO DO IS, UM, A COUPLE OF THINGS TONIGHT, UM, REALLY FIRST AND FOREMOST, UH, SHARE WITH YOU, UH, WHAT OUR RECOMMENDED APPROACH WOULD BE TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF A BODY, UH, TO, UH, ADDRESS AND TO, UH, BE ENGAGED WITH THE COMMUNITY ON THINGS LIKE, UH, DIVERSITY, INCLUSION, ACCESSIBILITY, UH, INVOLVEMENT, UH, ENGAGEMENT, OTHER, OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          UM, UH, TO SHARE WITH YOU, UH, WHAT WE BELIEVE FROM OUR RESEARCH IS WOULD BE, UH, KIND OF A BEST PRACTICE TO DEVELOPING A BODY LIKE THIS. 
          UM, AND, BUT TONIGHT IN PARTICULAR, WHAT WE REALLY WANNA DO IS WE WANNA FOCUS ON MUCH LIKE WE JUST DID, IS TRYING TO GAIN SOME CONSENSUS ON, UH, FROM THE COUNCIL ON WHAT THAT PURPOSE, UH, WOULD BE FOR THAT COMMITTEE AND KIND OF WHAT THEIR CHARGES WOULD BE. 
          AND THE WAY WE'VE APPROACHED THIS TONIGHT IS, UH, GREG IS GONNA PROVIDE ABOUT A HALF DOZEN EXAMPLES, AND THEY'VE KIND OF RUN THE GAMUT IN TERMS OF APPROACHES SOMETHING FROM A VERY INFORMAL PROCESS THAT PLANO USES ALL THE WAY TO A VERY FORMAL PROCESS, FOR INSTANCE, THAT ARLINGTON USES. 
          UM, JUST TO GIVE YOU A FLAVOR OF HOW OTHER COMMUNITIES, GOOD COMMUNITIES, UH, THAT, THAT THESE ARE, UH, SUCCESSFUL INITIATIVES IN HOW THOSE COMMUNITIES HAVE, UH, APPROACHED THAT. 
          AND THEN WE'VE GOT A SERIES OF QUESTIONS WE'D LIKE TO ASK YOU AT THE END. 
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UM, THIS FEEDBACK WILL BE VERY IMPORTANT TO US AS WE BEGIN TO KIND OF REFINE, UM, WHAT, UM, A, A, A BODY HERE LOCALLY MIGHT LOOK LIKE, UM, AND WHAT, WHAT THEY MIGHT BE ASKED TO DO ON YOUR BEHALF AND HOW THEY MIGHT WORK WITH AND ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY. 
          AND SO GREG'S DONE A GREAT JOB OF PULLING THIS TOGETHER. 
          UM, IF SHE'S LISTENING, I ALSO WANNA ACKNOWLEDGE, UH, RILEY THOMASON WHO, UH, THE FOUNDATION OF, OF, OF WHAT WE'RE PRESENTING YOU TONIGHT. 
          UM, AND SHE PROBABLY IS, UH, THE FOUNDATION OF WHAT WE'RE PRESENTING TONIGHT WAS REALLY, WAS REALLY DEVELOPED BY HER WITH SOME AWESOME RESEARCH OVER THE SUMMER. 
          SO I WANNA THANK HER AS, AS WELL. 
          BUT GREG, LET ME TURN IT OVER TO YOU FOR THE BRIEFING. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          AND AS, UH, UH, MR. MAGNER HAD JUST EXPLAINED, THIS IS PART OF YOUR EARLY TACTICS THAT, UH, ARE BEING CONSIDERED AS YOU GO OR START WRAPPING UP YOUR GOALS AND STRATEGIES PROCESS. 
          THE SPECIFIC TACTIC WORDING FOR THIS IS TO EXPLORE THE CREATION OF A BOARD TO CELEBRATE AND PROMOTE DIVERSITY, INCLUSION, INCLUSION, ACCESSIBILITY, ET CETERA. 
          AND SO FOR THE OVERVIEW TONIGHT, UH, AGAIN, AS, UH, HAS BEEN, UH, HAS BEEN OUTLINED, WE'LL GIVE YOU SOME BACKGROUND, UH, OF THE CITY, TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR DIVERSITY AND THE MAKEUP OF THE COMMUNITY, TALK ABOUT THE APPROACH THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING SHOULD YOU DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD, UH, FROM, UH, FROM THIS EVENING, SHOW YOU AGAIN THE EXAMPLES, AND THEN REALLY JUST OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION, TRULY TO GET YOUR GA UH, GET A GAUGE FROM YOU AS TO WHAT THIS BODY, UH, SHOULD IT BE CALLED TOGETHER, WHAT IT WOULD, UH, UH, THE DIRECTION IT, IT SHOULD GO IN. 
          AND SO, UH, LOOKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE COMMUNITY BACKGROUND AND, AND, UH, WHAT RICHARDSON HAS IN PLACE, UH, HAVE SEVERAL BULLET POINTS HERE THAT JUST GIVE A BROAD OVERVIEW OF THE COMMUNITY, KIND OF OUR TAPESTRY, SO TO SPEAK. 
          RICHARDSON IS HOME TO A DIVERSE POPULATION WITH RESIDENTS FROM VARIOUS RACIAL AND ETHNIC BACKGROUNDS AND DIFFERENT ABILITIES. 
          RICHARDSON HAS A SIGNIFICANT INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY WITH A GROWING NUMBER OF IMMIGRANTS FROM COUNTRIES SUCH AS INDIA, CHINA, VIETNAM, KOREA, AND OTHER NATIONS. 
          RICHARDSON IS HOME TO INTERNATIONAL CORPORATIONS IN TECH, TECH COMPANIES THAT ATTRACT A DIVERSE WORKFORCE. 
          RICHARDSON IS KNOWN FOR ITS STRONG EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS, INCLUDING THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AT DALLAS, WHICH ATTRACTS A DIVERSE STUDENT BODY AGAIN FROM AROUND THE WORLD. 
          RICHARDSON CELEBRATES ITS CULTURAL DIVERSITY THROUGH VARIOUS EVENTS AND FESTIVALS THAT FEATURE A WIDE RANGE OF ARTISTIC AND MUSICAL PERFORMANCES REFLECTING DIFFERENT CULTURAL INFLUENCES. 
          RICHARDSON IS HOME TO A VARIETY OF PLACES OF WORSHIP REPRESENTING DIFFERENT RELIGIOUS DENOMINATIONS AND FAITHS, MAKING IT A WELCOMING PLACE FOR PEOPLE FROM VARIOUS RELIGIOUS BACKGROUNDS. 
          RICHARDSON IS ALSO HOME TO A LARGE SENIOR POPULATION AND SUPPORT ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE FOCUSED ON DIS DISABILITY SERVICES. 
          AND THE CITY ACTIVELY PROMOTES INCLUSIVITY AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WITH EVERYONE AND EVERYONE BEING THE KEY WORD THERE BECAUSE WE ARE HERE TO SERVE EVERYONE NO MATTER WHAT. 
          AND SO AS WE LOOK, UH, AT STAFFORD COMMITTED APPROACH, UH, AGAIN, UM, REALLY THIS IS IF THE COUNCIL SHOULD DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD FROM HERE. 
          UH, THESE ARE THE FOUR STEPS THAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT. 
          HOWEVER, WE'RE REALLY FOCUSED ON THIS FIRST ONE, WHICH IS TO ESTABLISH A CLEAR PURPOSE AND CHARGE. 
          SO THE TARGET FOR TONIGHT'S BRIEFING IS TO DEFINE THE ROLE. 
          IF YOU SHOULD CALL AND, AND WANT TO HAVE A GROUP COME TOGETHER. 
          WHAT WOULD BE THE ROLE OF THAT GROUP, UH, AS DON HAD HAD MENTIONED, AS WELL AS DEVELOPING ITS SPECIFIC GOALS AND DETERMINING MORE OF THE SHORT TERM. 
          WHAT ARE ITS, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD ITS NORMAL OBJECTIVES BE ON A REGULAR BASIS? UH, SOME OF THOSE YOU'LL SEE IN, IN THE CITY, UH, THE EXAMPLES THAT WE'LL HAVE FROM OTHER COMMUNITIES. 
          SO HERE ARE THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE HAVE COMPILED FOR YOUR REVIEW, AND YOU'LL NOTICE A FEW NORTH TEXAS CITIES HERE. 
          BUT REALLY WE ALSO HAVE SOME OTHERS FROM ACROSS THE COUNTRY, UH, FROM EAST THE MIDWEST AND, AND ALL THE WAY OVER TO, UH, TO THE WEST. 
          BUT WHEN, AS DON HAS HAD, HAS EXPLAINED, UM, WHEN YOU LOOK AT EACH ONE OF THESE COMMUNITIES, THEY REALLY ARE KIND OF A PROGRESSING INFLUENCE OR A PROGRESSING, UH, LEVEL OF COMMITMENT, UH, THAT HAS BEEN OUTLINED BY THE, THE CITY COUNCIL, OR IN ONE CASE BY A COUNTY COMMISSION. 
          AND SO WE'LL START WITH THE CITY OF PLANO, WHICH REALLY HAS THE LEAST FORMAL APPROACH, UH, IN HAVING A GROUP LIKE THIS. 
          AND IN PLANO, THEY HAVE WHAT'S CALLED A MULTICULTURAL OUTREACH ROUND TABLE, OR THE M C O R. 
          AND M C O R WAS FOUNDED IN 2005 BY A FORMER MAYOR WHO WANTED TO CREATE A GROUP THAT HAD THI THIS SET OF, UH, BULLET POINTS UNDER ITS MISSION AND, AND, UH, WHAT SHE WAS, UH, TRYING TO, TO, TO ACHIEVE. 
          AND THAT WAS TO ASSIST GROUPS OF DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS TO GAIN KNOWLEDGE OF THE CITY GOVERNMENT, TO PROVIDE THAT CONDUIT FOR THAT BACK AND FORTH INFORMATION TO ENCOURAGE AMITY, UNDERSTANDING UNITY AND COLLABORATION AMONG CITIZENS WITHIN THE, THE COMMUNITY TO ENCOURAGE AND FACILITATE COMMUNICATION BETWEEN CITY COUNCIL AND THE DIVERSE AND DIVERSE GROUPS, AND PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY GOVERNMENT ON MATTERS RELATING TO CULTURAL DIVERSITY AND HERITAGE. 
          UH, 
          [00:55:01]
AGAIN, THIS IS A VERY INFORMAL GROUP THAT, UH, THAT MEETS WITHIN THE, THE CITY OF PLANO. 
          THEY MEET ON THE, UH, SECOND TUESDAY OF EVERY MONTH. 
          HOWEVER, KEY TO THE PLANO, UH, UH, GROUP IS THAT THERE IS A CITY LIAISON. 
          AND SO THESE MEETINGS DON'T HAPPEN JUST, UH, BY COURSE OF THE COMMUNITY VOLUNTEERS. 
          THE CITY HAS, UH, SOMEONE DEDICATED TO, UH, THE MONTHLY PROGRAMMING AND BRINGING UP, UH, SPEAKERS, TOPICS, UH, THINGS FOR THIS COMMUNITY, THE, THE, THOSE WHO ARE INTERESTED TO ENGAGE UPON. 
          UH, TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF SOME OF THE AGENDA ITEMS THAT THEY'VE DISCUSSED RECENTLY, UH, THEY HAD ON THEIR AGENDA DISCUSSION OF THE 2023 WINTER WORLD PEACE TABLE TENNIS TOURNAMENT, UH, A REPORT ON FRIENDSHIP CIRCLES, AN UPDATE ON FUTURE SPEAKERS. 
          THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT WHO THEY WANTED TO SCHEDULE FOR FUTURE, UH, MONTHLY EVENTS, DISCUSSION OF A PLANO INTERNATIONAL FESTIVAL, WHICH HAS WENT THROUGH THEIR PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT, AND A DISCUSSION OF, UH, A CITIZEN WORKSHOP. 
          AND THOSE ARE EXAMPLES OF TOPICS THAT WERE ON THEIR AGENDA RECENTLY, UH, IN THE PLANO COMMUNITY. 
          SO THEN WE GO TO ALLEN, TEXAS, JUST, UH, ANOTHER ONE OF OUR, UH, AREA NEIGHBORS TO THE NORTH, AND THEY HAVE A COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT ADVISORY BOARD. 
          NOW, ONE OF THE THINGS YOU'LL NOTICE AS WE GO THROUGH THESE CITIES, UH, PLANO HAS HAD A GROUP FOR MUCH LONGER TERM, BUT, UH, MOST OF THE CITIES THAT YOU'LL NOTICE. 
          AND, AND OF THOSE THAT AS WE WERE DOING OUR RESEARCH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE FOUND WAS A LOT OF THESE KINDS OF GROUPS CAME IN AROUND THE 20 20, 20 21 KIND OF TIMEFRAME, UH, WHICH WAS, OF COURSE ASSOCIATED WITH THE GEORGE FLOYD, UH, INCIDENT. 
          AND SO, UH, AND ALLEN, THAT IS THE CASE IN ALLEN, THEY PULLED TOGETHER AN AD HOC COMMITTEE IN APRIL OF 21 TO EXPLORE WAYS TO ENHANCE DIVERSITY, EQUITY, AND INCLUSION. 
          THEIR FINDINGS COALESCED REALLY INTO THESE FOUR MAIN AREAS, UH, FOUR THEMES, LISTENING, CONNECTING, EDUCATING, AND HAVING A CONTINUED CITIZEN INVOLVEMENT THROUGH THE CREATION OF A PERMANENT BOARD. 
          AND THIS AD HOC COMMITTEE HAD COME TO THESE, UH, THESE RECOMMENDATIONS AFTER, UH, MANY HOURS OF THEM MEETING TOGETHER AND RESEARCHING THAT TOPIC. 
          AND SO IN JULY OF 2022, THE ADVISORY BOARD WAS CREATED. 
          THE BOARD IS COUNCIL APPOINTED, UH, AND THOSE MEMBERS MEET QUARTERLY AND ADVISE ON MATTERS RELATED TO COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, OUTREACH PROGRAMS AND SPECIAL EVENTS. 
          AND LOOKING AT THEIR RECENT AGENDA, SOME ITEMS THAT WERE ON IT IS A GUIDED DISCUSSION REGARDING BOARD'S GOALS, OBJECTIVES FOR THE 23 AND 24 TERMS. SO IT'S ESSENTIALLY GOING THROUGH A LITTLE BIT AT THE PROCESS, UH, THAT YOU WOULD BE DISCUSSING TONIGHT, PRESENTATIONS REGARDING A D A TRANSITION PLAN, AND A PRESENTATION REGARDING THE 2023 BOND PROGRAM. 
          UH, ON NOVEMBER 7TH, THE CITY OF ALLEN HAS, UH, I THINK IT'S $156 MILLION BOND ELECTION THAT WILL BE GOING TOWARDS IT. 
          UM, AND SO THEY TASK THIS, UH, THIS, UH, ADVISORY BOARD TO GIVE SOME INPUT, UH, RELATED TO BOND PROJECTS WITHIN THAT PROGRAM, PROPOSED PROGRAM. 
          SO NOW WE GET OUT OF THE NORTH TEXAS AREA, AND WE MOVE UP TO THE NORTHEAST AND WE LOOK AT CONCORD, MASSACHUSETTS, THAT HAS A DIVERSITY, EQUITY AND INCLUSION COMMISSION. 
          AND THIS WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2021. 
          AND ITS MISSION IS TO INCREASE COOPERATION, UNDERSTANDING AND DIALOGUE AMONG RESIDENTS OF DIVERSE, CULTURAL, RELIGIOUS, SOCIOECONOMIC, RACIAL AND ETHNIC BACKGROUNDS, AND TO PROMOTE INCLUSION THROUGHOUT THE TOWN. 
          UH, THIS COMMISSION ALSO FACILITATES LEARNING, UH, AND, AND, UH, CREATING OPPORTUNITIES FOR UNDERSTANDING AND UNITY SPECIFICALLY. 
          UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY HAD RECENTLY DONE WAS THEY CONDUCTED A COMMUNITY SURVEY. 
          AND SO THEY'LL GO OUT TO THE COMMUNITY BASED ON TOPICS THAT ARE HAPPENING WITH WITHIN THAT AREA, AND THEY'LL SURVEY THE PUBLIC TO SEE WHAT DO THEY THINK IN ORDER TO HELP THEM DEVISE, UH, THEIR, THEIR RECOMMENDED COURSES OF ACTION THAT THEY'LL BRING TO THE CITY COUNCIL. 
          THEY ALSO HOST A MONTHLY MEETING, UH, COMMUNITY SERIES, AND THEY CREATE A FORUM FOR TOPICAL ISSUES. 
          SO THIS IS A LITTLE LIKE WHAT WE HAVE WITH IQ BREW, EXCEPT THIS IS TOPICAL TWO, JUST THIS GROUP. 
          SO WITH IQ BREW, WE BRING IN TECHNICAL EXPERTS, PEOPLE FROM THE, THE INNOVATION QUARTER TO COME AND TALK. 
          SO THINK OF THAT, UH, IN THIS REALM. 
          THOSE POSITIONS ARE COUNCIL APPOINTED MEMBERS, AND AGAIN, THEY DO MEET MONTHLY. 
          UH, SOME RECENT AGENDA ITEMS THAT THEY HAD WAS TO FACILITATE THE INCREASE OF CULTURAL PROGRAMMING. 
          SO THEY'RE LOOKING AT OPPORTUNITIES TO DO SO THERE. 
          UH, THEY WERE ALSO CELEBRATING THE LGBTQIA PLUS COMMUNITY THROUGH A CONCORD PRIDE, UH, EVENT THAT WAS HAPPENING ON OCTOBER 11TH, SO A FEW DAYS AGO, UM, FOR A NATIONAL COMING OUT DAY. 
          AND SO THEY WERE TAKING PART IN THAT. 
          AND THEN THEY HAD A, UH, FACILITATED AN INCREASE IN CULTURAL MARKERS. 
          THEY'RE LOOKING AT A MARKER PROGRAM WITHIN THEIR COMMUNITY. 
          SO WE'VE BEEN IN THE NORTHEAST, NOW WE GO ACROSS THE COUNTRY OVER TO THE WEST COAST, AND WE LOOK AT CLSS COUNTY, OREGON, THAT HAS TWO DIFFERENT GROUPS, 
          [01:00:01]
ONE'S MORE INTERNAL, AND THEN THERE'S ONE THAT'S EXTERNAL. 
          THE EMPLOYEE LED EQUITY, DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION COUNCIL, E D I C, AND THE COMMUNITY BASED LEADERS FOR EQUITY, DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION COUNCIL, THE L E D I C. 
          NOW, BOTH OF THESE GROUPS REALLY, UH, HAD ALREADY EXISTED, UH, PRIOR TO 2012. 
          BUT IN 2012, THE COUNTY COMMISSION, UH, ADOPTED A RESOLUTION VALUING DIVERSITY AND AFFIRMING ITS SUPPORT FOR THESE TWO DIFFERENT COUNCILS. 
          AND SO THE E D I C, AGAIN, THIS IS THE INTERNAL GROUP. 
          UH, IT WORKS WITHIN THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT AND A D A AND OTHER SUPPORT RELATED INITIATIVES THAT, UH, THAT COME UP IN THIS REALM. 
          BUT THE L OF E D I C MISSION IS DEFINED IN THIS WAY TO EXAMINE COUNTY PROCESSES TO RECOMMEND AND FACILITATE CHANGES, FOSTER EQUITY OF SERVICES AND GREATER INCLUSIVENESS, DEVELOP LEADERSHIP FROM THE DIVERSE COMMUNITIES, AND INCREASE COMMUNITY PARTICIPATION. 
          UH, THESE ARE ALSO COMMISSION APPOINTED, COUNCIL APPOINTED, UH, IT'S A COUNTY COMMISSION. 
          UH, THOSE MEMBERS MEET MONTHLY. 
          AND HERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU SEE IN OTHER CITIES. 
          AND THAT IS THEY ALSO, IN ADDITION, WILL ADVISE ON STATE LEGIS LEGISLATIVE MATTERS. 
          SO WHENEVER THEIR STATE LEGISLATURE IN, IN OREGON HAS A RELATED TOPIC, THEN THEY WILL DO INPUT GATHERING. 
          AND SO, UH, COUNTY LEVELS ONE RUNG UP FROM, FROM THE CITY. 
          AND SO THE COUNTY THERE WILL TAKE IN THAT INFORMATION, UH, AND THEY THEN TAKE, UH, WILL REPORT TO OR ADVISE ON FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE FOR STATE LEGISLATIVE MATTERS. 
          UH, OF COURSE, THEY ALSO TAKE PART IN COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIPS AND SUPPORT SPECIAL EVENTS. 
          SOME RECENT AGENDA ITEMS THAT THEY'VE HAD RECENTLY WAS, UH, TO, UH, WAS FROM THE OREGON DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE BIAS. 
          THEY HEARD A REPORT FROM THE OREGON, OREGON DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE ON A BIAS RESPONSE HOTLINE PROGRAM. 
          UH, THEIR COUNTY PARTS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT GAVE A COMMUNITY, UH, PROJECT PRESENTATION ON A, A PROJECT THEY HAD GOING ON. 
          AND THEY HAD RECRUITMENT AT EVENTS AND A DISCUSSION ABOUT RECRUITMENT AT EVENTS, AND RUNNING A BOOTH AT A, UH, AT A PRIDE PARADE. 
          AND THOSE ARE RECENT DISCUSSION ITEMS THAT THEY HAD THERE. 
          SO WE'VE BEEN TO EAST, WE'VE BEEN TO WEST HERE IN CENTRAL TEXAS. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA GO UP TO, UH, NORTH CENTRAL AMERICA NOW, UH, OR NORTH CENTRAL UNITED STATES NOW. 
          AND LOOK AT DUBLIN, OHIO. 
          UH, THEY HAVE ACHIEVED TWO DIFFERENT, UH, UH, COUNCIL, UH, APPOINTED COMMISSIONS. 
          ONE OF OUR COMMITTEES, ONE IS THE CHIEF'S ADVISORY COMMITTEE. 
          ONE IS THE COMMUNITY INCLUSION ADVISORY COMMITTEE. 
          THESE WERE FORMED AFTER A, UH, TASK FORCE WAS CREATED IN 2020 TO ADVISE THAT CITY COUNCIL ON WAYS TO COMBAT AND PROHIBIT SOCIAL INJUSTICE, INEQUITY, INTOLERANCE, NEGATIVE STEREOTYPING AND DISCRIMINATION. 
          AND SO, UH, THROUGH THAT PROCESS, IT LED TO THE CREATION OF THESE TWO DIFFERENT COMMITTEES. 
          NOW, THE POLICE, THE CHIEF'S COMMITTEE, IS REALLY FOCUSED ON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND, AND ITS SUBMISSION. 
          AND SO THIS GROUP WILL SOLICIT COMMUNITY FEEDBACK, REVIEW POLICIES AND PROCEDURES, AND SUPPORT THE DEPARTMENT'S EFFORTS AND COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT. 
          AND THEN THE COMMUNITY MISSION. 
          SO OUTSIDE OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, ADVISES THE COUNCIL AND REVIEWS POLICIES THROUGH AN INCLUSIVE LENS. 
          NOW, BOTH OF THESE COUNCILS ARE APPOINTED MEMBERS, OR THE, BOTH THESE COMMITTEES ARE APPOINTED MEMBERS. 
          THEY MEET MONTHLY, AND THE MEMBERS OF ONE DO NOT SIT ON THE OTHER. 
          THESE ARE TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SETS OF, OF COMMITTEES, UH, RECENT AGENDA ITEMS THAT THEY'D SPOKEN ABOUT, AN EDUCATIONAL SPEAKER SERIES TO, UH, UH, DRAFT REVIEW FOR TOPICS FOR D E I AND CULTURAL AWARENESS. 
          UH, THERE WAS DISCUSSION ON AGRA GRASSROOTS SUMMIT RELATED TO THE JAPAN AMERICA SOCIETY OF CENTRAL OHIO, THE OHIO CHINESE FESTIVAL, RECAP, AND A MOBILITY AND TRANSPORTATION ITEMS RELATED TO DE AND I STRATEGIC FRAMEWORK, UH, WERE DIFFERENT ITEMS THAT THEY HAD RECENTLY BROUGHT UP. 
          SO WE'VE BEEN ACROSS THE COUNTRY NOW, NOW WE'RE GONNA COME BACK HOME. 
          AND, UH, WE HERE WE LOOK AT THE CITY OF ARLINGTON, EXCUSE ME, WHICH IS REALLY, UH, TAKEN ALL THESE, AND THEN A, A STEP ABOVE AND BEYOND EVEN THAT. 
          UH, AND SO THEY HAVE WHAT'S CALLED A UNITY COUNCIL. 
          NOW, THE UNITY COUNCIL WAS CREATED BY THE CITY COUNCIL BACK IN JUNE OF 2020 TO GO OUT AND COME UP WITH RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE CITY OF ARLINGTON. 
          THEY SPENT THOUSANDS OF HOURS RESEARCHING, HOLDING COMMUNITY MEETINGS, UH, FIGURING OUT HOW, WHAT, WHAT ARE THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THEY SHOULD MAKE. 
          AND SO IN FEBRUARY OF 2021, THE UNITY COUNCIL PRESENTED A PLAN TO ESTABLISH A PERMANENT TASK FORCE TO ENGAGE RESIDENTS, ORGANIZATIONS, AND INSTITUTIONS ON MATTERS REGARDING RACE, ETHNICITY, AND OTHER FORMS OF DIVERSITY, TO MONITOR CITY DEPARTMENTAL EQUITY AND EQUALITY EFFORTS, AND ADVANCE UNITY THROUGH COMMUNICATION EDUCATION IN PROGRAMMING. 
          SO HERE, THEY CREATED A FULL-TIME DEPARTMENT WITHIN THE CITY, UH, AND THEY HAVE A FULL-TIME CHIEF EQUITY OFFICER THAT'S IN THE POSITION THAT WAS CREATED FOR THAT DEPARTMENT. 
          THAT DEPARTMENT GENERALLY OVERSEES PLANNING, DEVELOPMENT AND ADMINISTRATIVE 
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OF DIVERSITY, EQUITY, AND INCLUSION ENGAGEMENT INITIATIVES. 
          AND TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THOSE INITIATIVES INCLUDE, THEY TAKE PART IN ORGANIZATIONAL EDUCATION AND PROCESS ASSESSMENT, TALENT ACQUISITION, ONBOARDING, COMPENSATION AND SUCCESSION PRACTICES, RESIDENT SERVICES, HOUSING, PURCHASING AND PROCUREMENT ACTIVITIES, AND GRANT ADMINISTRATION. 
          SO THAT'S THE, THE DEPARTMENT. 
          BUT THE UNITY COUNCIL IS ALSO STILL IN PLACE. 
          AND SO THE UNITY COUNCIL SERVES ON TWO YEAR TERMS, UH, AND THEY ARE APPOINTED BY MEMBERS, AND THEY MEET AS NEEDED, AS DETERMINED BY THAT CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE ANY ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          SO THAT'S A BROAD OVERVIEW OF KIND OF ACROSS THE COUNTRY, DIFFERENT WAYS YOU SEE THESE KINDS OF GROUPS COMING TOGETHER AND THE TYPE OF WORK THAT THEY WILL DO. 
          SO JUST FOR PURPOSES OF DISCUSSION, UH, WE'VE THROWN SOME OF THESE IDEAS UP FOR YOU TO CONSIDER. 
          UM, ONE OF THE GENERAL THINGS YOU FIND A AMONG ALL THESE GROUPS, REALLY CAN KIND OF BE ENCAPSULATED WITH THESE TWO BULLET POINTS. 
          THE COMMITTEE SHALL SERVE AS AN ADVISORY BOARD TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND CITY MANAGEMENT IN MATTERS INVOLVING COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND INTERACTION. 
          UH, AND THE COMMITTEE COULD BE CHARGED WITH PROMOTING HARMONY EDUCATION ON DIVERSITY AND CONSTRUCTIVE COLLABORATION AMONGST ALL DIVERSE COMMUNITIES. 
          UH, SOME DISCUSSION QUESTIONS, THOUGH, REALLY. 
          AND AGAIN, WHAT WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FOR FROM, FOR, FROM YOU TONIGHT, UM, ARE THOSE OBJECTIVES, GOALS, AND ROLES, WHICH CHARGE OR CHARGES ALIGN WITH YOUR VIEW FOR A GROUP LIKE THIS, UH, FOR THOSE NORMAL, REGULAR OBJECTIVES, WHAT ARE SOME EXAMPLES THAT, THAT YOU'VE SEEN OR THAT YOU MAY HAVE SEEN ON YOUR OWN THAT RESONATE TO MOST AS THE GOALS FOR A GROUP LIKE THIS? UM, AND ARE THERE ANY ELEMENTS OR FEATURES THAT, UH, THAT YOU THINK WE SHOULD AVOID, UH, AS PART OF YOUR DISCUSSION? AND SO, UH, WITH THAT, ONCE WE GATHER YOUR INPUT FROM, FROM THIS MEETING, THEN OUR NEXT STEPS WOULD BE TO AS NECESSARY, UM, WE WOULD PREPARE A DRAFT PURPOSE AND CHARGE BASED ON YOUR FEEDBACK FOR THE COMMITTEE. 
          UH, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S GIVEN THIS EVENING. 
          PREPARE A COMMITTEE FRAMEWORK FOR THE COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION. 
          ARE THEY VOLUNTEER? IS IT LIKE A PLANO OR IS IT COUNCIL, UH, UH, UH, UH, APPOINTED POSITIONS THAT YOU WOULD HAVE. 
          AND ALSO, WE WOULD THEN FINALIZE A TIMELINE IF A COMMITTEE WERE TO COME TOGETHER, UH, WHAT THAT MEMBER RECRUITMENT COULD LOOK LIKE, UM, WHAT ITS TRAINING AND DEVELOPMENT OF A STRATEGIC PLAN COULD ALSO LOOK LIKE AS WELL. 
          AND SO WITH THAT, WE ARE NOW A BLANK SLATE, UH, OPEN TO HEARING BACK FROM YOU GUYS. 
          GREG, THANK YOU. 
          GREAT PRESENTATION. 
          APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK BY YOU AND EVERYBODY ELSE, UH, MS. RILEY ESPECIALLY. 
          SO MR. HUTCHER RIDER COMMENTS OR DISCUSSION? WELL, THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UM, GREAT PRESENTATION. 
          I APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH IN, IN, IN MY MIND. 
          UM, AND SOMETHING THAT I, I, I GUESS I'LL SAY, I SAY I RAN ON IS I FELT, AND I STILL DO FEEL STRONGLY THAT IT NEEDS TO BE A FORMALIZED, UM, COMMISSION OR BOARD THAT'S A PART OF OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT WE AS CITY COUNCIL WOULD PICK. 
          I THINK WE STANDARDLY HAVE SEVEN PEOPLE ON MOST OF OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. 
          UM, BUT HAVE IT, HAVE IT FORMALIZED TO THAT LEVEL AND HAVE IT BE AT THE SAME, SAME LEVEL OF AS OUR OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. 
          UM, AND THEN AS FAR AS THE OVERALL, UM, I DON'T WANNA SAY TOPICS, BUT I, I THINK IT OUGHT TO, I, I DON'T KNOW IF MONTHLY OR EVERY OTHER MONTH, I'M KIND OF A LITTLE BIT TORN BETWEEN THAT, UM, WHETHER IT BE MONTHLY OR EVERY OTHER MONTH. 
          I THINK THAT WOULD BE, UH, APPROPRIATE. 
          UM, AND THEN I DO THINK, UM, THE ONE I WAS TRYING TO PULL IT UP AGAIN, I THINK IT WAS, I, I I, I, I THOUGHT PART OF WHAT THE CONCORD, I BELIEVE THAT'S MASSACHUSETTS THAT YOU HAD UP THERE, PART OF WHAT THEY, THEIR, THEIR KIND OF THEIR MISSION. 
          UM, I, UH, ALONG WITH, UM, WORKING KIND OF THE, UM, UH, WHAT WAS THE ONE I WAS TRYING, I WAS TRYING TO PULL FROM THE DIFFERENT COMMITTEE, SORRY, IT'S A LITTLE, LITTLE RAGTAG. 
          UM, BUT, BUT HAVING, HAVING THEM THERE, THERE, IT WAS, AS IT WAS UNDER, UNDER THE ALLEN, UM, TO WORK, TO WORK, TO LOOK AT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT OUTREACH PROGRAMS AND SPECIAL EVENTS. 
          SO KIND OF PULLING FROM THOSE, THOSE DIFFERENT ONES AND, BUT, BUT FORMALIZING IT AT THE LEVEL OF, OF OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. 
          SO I STILL, I STILL, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I'M, I'M ONE OF SEVEN, BUT I FEEL STRONGLY THAT THAT'S, THAT'S THE APPROACH WE OUGHT TO TAKE AND HAVE IT AT THAT SAME LEVEL. 
          UM, BUT KIND OF PULL THOSE, KIND OF, THOSE MISSIONS FROM KIND OF THE CONCORD AND ALLEN, TEXAS, UM, AS FAR AS WHAT THEIR, THEIR CHARTER, IF YOU WILL, WOULD BE. 
          SO THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, KIM. 
          CURTIS. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UM, ACTUALLY, I HAVE, UH, VERY SIMILAR, UH, 
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OVERVIEW FROM, UH, COUNCILMAN HUTCHER WRITER. 
          UH, FIRST OF ALL, I NOTICED DURING THE DISCUSSION, AND BY THE WAY, THANK YOU FOR THAT PRESENTATION. 
          IT WAS, IT WAS VERY NICE AND INFORMATIVE. 
          UM, I SAW COMMISSION BOARD AND COMMITTEE, UM, ON THE SCREEN. 
          AND, AND HONESTLY, I THINK I HAVE TO AGREE, I THINK A COMMISSION AND OR A BOARD, PREFERABLY A COMMISSION, MOST LIKELY, UM, MAYBE ONE THAT DOES MEET EITHER ONCE A MONTH OR EVERY OTHER MONTH. 
          IT DEPENDS, I GUESS, ON WHAT TYPES OF AGENDA THAT WILL BE CARRIED OUT AND, AND WHAT THE FOCUS IS ON AND WHAT THEY DEVELOP OUT OF THIS COMMISSION, WHETHER IT BE, YOU KNOW, AS YOU MENTIONED EARLIER, AND I NOTICED SOME OF THE OTHER, UM, EXAMPLES THEY WERE PUTTING TOGETHER, UM, YOU KNOW, DIVERSA DIVERSIFIED, UH, TYPES OF PARADES OR EVENTS AND BRINGING, UM, DIVERSITY, UH, AND CULTURE TOGETHER AND CELEBRATING EVENTS. 
          UM, AND NOT TO GET INTO THE WEEDS ON FIGURING OUT EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO. 
          I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S THE COMMISSION'S RESPONSIBILITY. 
          BUT I DO THINK FORMALIZING IT AS A COMMISSION, UM, WITH A SEVEN MEMBER SIMILAR TO OUR CURRENT BOARDS AND COMMISSION, UM, IS PROBABLY APPROPRIATE. 
          BUT, UM, I AGREE WITH, UM, COUNCILMAN HUTCHER WRITER. 
          I THINK MAYBE A MONTH, UH, ONCE A MONTH OR EVERY TWO MONTHS WOULD BE GOOD. 
          AND, AND, AND I JUST WANT TO COVER THAT FOR NOW, EVEN THOUGH I'M SURE WE'LL DISCUSS SOME OF THE DETAILS IN A FEW MINUTES. 
          BUT I WANTED TO AT LEAST GET THAT OUT ON THE TABLE SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT DO WE WANT THIS COMMISSION TO BE AT THIS POINT. 
          THANK YOU, MR. CORCORAN. 
          UH, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. 
          AND I, I AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUES ABOUT FORMALIZATION. 
          UM, BUT I, I WILL SAY, BY THE WAY, GREG, I MEAN, I, I LOVE THE TWO BULLET POINT EXAMPLES UP HERE FOR THE EXAMPLE PURPOSE. 
          UM, AND I THINK THAT THIS, A LOT OF WHAT, WHAT IS ON HERE IS REALLY IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. 
          SO I, I WANNA SAY, I MEAN, PERSONALLY, I FEEL LIKE IT'S IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. 
          I, I WANNA COMMEND YOU GUYS FOR, FOR REALLY GOING OUT, DOING ALL THE RESEARCH AND, AND PUTTING TOGETHER A, A FANTASTIC PRESENTATION FOR US. 
          UM, SOME OF THE, THE DISCUSSION QUESTIONS ON HERE, WHICH SORT OF CHARGES OR EXAMPLES RESONATE WITH US? I MEAN, AS FAR AS THE, THE NAME, I DO THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. 
          I MEAN, MY PREFERENCE IS SOMETHING LIKE A DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION COMMISSION, BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT WE KIND OF HAVE TO HAVE COMMON GROUND AMONGST EVERYBODY, RIGHT? AND IT'S, ANOTHER THING ON HERE THAT I SAW THAT REALLY LIKED WAS, UH, AT LEAST I FELT LIKE IT WAS VERY SERVICEABLE, WAS A COMMUNITY INCLUSION ADVISORY COMMITTEE. 
          SO SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES, THAT WAS THE DUBLIN, OHIO EXAMPLE. 
          UM, AS FAR AS THE JUST GENERAL EXAMPLES THAT RESONATED THE, THE MOST WITH ME, UH, I LIKE THE, THE CLACKAMAS COUNTY AND, UH, CONCORD, MASSACHUSETTS, IF WE'RE GETTING INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFICS, UM, YOU KNOW, I REALLY, I REALLY LIKED THAT THEY WERE ADVISING ON COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIPS, UH, SUPPORTING, DEVELOPING SPECIAL EVENTS. 
          UM, AND I BELIEVE EITHER A COUNCIL MEMBER, HUTCH RIDER, UH, OR GORIAN SAID THIS, BUT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE CHARGE OF CONDUCTING COMMUNITY SURVEYS OR, UH, A COMMUNITY SERIES OF EVENTS, UM, I REALLY FEEL LIKE WHATEVER COMES OUT OF THIS SHOULD HAVE SOME, CLEARLY, THE, THE COMMITTEE SHOULD HAVE SOME VERY CLEARLY DEFINED ROLES OR THINGS THEY DO. 
          UM, LIKE AS AN EXAMPLE, RIGHT? PARKS, UH, RECOMMENDS PARK, UH, NAME RECOMMENDATIONS TO US, RIGHT? THE LIBRARY BOARD HEALS, UH, HEARS APPEALS FOR BOOKS, RIGHT? THINGS FOR BOOK BANDS, RIGHT? THINGS, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          SOMETHING SPECIFIC THAT THEY, THAT THEY DO IS, I, I FEEL LIKE WHAT GIVES THIS COMMITTEE, UM, REALLY LIKE A CRITICAL PURPOSE. 
          UH, AND I FEEL LIKE IF WE ACTUALLY PLAY THIS RIGHT, IT COULD, IT COULD CUT DOWN ON THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT STAFF DOES AS FAR AS OUTREACH AND, AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 
          UH, THOSE ARE MY INITIAL, MY INITIAL THOUGHTS. 
          THANK YOU, JOE. 
          MAYOR PROTE. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. 
          WELL, THIS, UH, THANKS, UH, APPRECIATE FOR THE DETAILED RESEARCH AND PRESENTATION. 
          UH, LOTS OF GOOD EXAMPLE. 
          UH, YES, I AGREE THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, WITH EVERYBODY ELSE THAT, YOU KNOW, HAVING A FORMALIZED COMMISSION OR BOARD IS IMPORTANT. 
          SEVEN MEMBERS, MAYBE NINE MEMBERS, UH, YOU KNOW, I WILL SAY THAT YES, YES, WE DO CELEBRATE DIVERSITY, LOTS OF MULTICULTURAL PROGRAM THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. 
          WE HAVE BEEN DOING THIS THING FOR YEARS. 
          UH, BUT WHY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS DIVERSITY COMMITTEE, UH, THERE IS REASON FOR IT. 
          AND, UH, THE REASON IS THAT, YOU KNOW, TO TAKE IT TO THE NEXT LEVEL, MAKE IT MORE LIKE, UH, GRASSROOTS THING SO THAT PEOPLE JOIN THE PROGRAM SPONTANEOUSLY AND MAKE IT BIGGER AND MAKE IT LIKE, YOU KNOW, UH, MORE, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, INCLUSIVE CITY. 
          BUT ALSO THIS IS GOOD FOR OUR FUTURE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. 
          THAT'S ALSO ONE OF THE REGION THERE. 
          SO HAVING THIS COMMITTEE, DIVERSITY COMMITTEE, AND, UH, THAT'S WHY WE'RE SPECIFICALLY MAKING THIS COMMITTEE SEPARATELY, 
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BECAUSE OTHERWISE STILL, CITIES, DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT, DIFFERENT BOARD, THEY'RE DOING THIS COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. 
          THEY'RE NOT DOING, THEY'RE NOT, IT'S NOT THAT THEY'RE NOT DOING THAT TODAY, BUT WE ARE SPECIFICALLY LOOKING FOR THIS, THIS ISSUE. 
          SO, UH, I THINK, I AGREE, HAVING THE SEVEN MEMBERS, OR EVEN NINE MEMBERS WOULD BE PROBABLY BETTER, UH, IS, UH, IT WOULD BE APPOINTED BY THE COUNCIL AS A WHOLE AND TRYING TO GET, YOU KNOW, INVOLVE MEMBERS FROM DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE COMMUNITY. 
          UH, THAT SHOULD BE THE GOAL. 
          AND, UH, THAT SHOULD BE THE CLEAR MESSAGE, SO THAT WHEN THEY JOIN, THEY'LL KNOW THAT EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE JOINING FOR AND NOT GET DISAPPOINTED END OF THE DAY. 
          SO, BECAUSE WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE SOMETHING REALLY A STRONG COMMITTEE FOR THE FUTURE AND FOR OUR FUTURE BENEFIT. 
          SO, NO, THIS IS GREAT. 
          AND THERE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN TALK ABOUT ALL THOSE FUNCTION ONE AT A TIME AFTER THAT. 
          'CAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S A LONG DISCUSSION. 
          AND I THINK SINCE WE STARTED DOING THIS THING, WE NEED TO DO IT RIGHT. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT OUR ALL EVERYONE'S INTENTION. 
          SO, UH, AND HOW DO WE DO IT? THAT'S, THAT'S THE ISSUE. 
          SO, UH, I THINK WE CAN TALK ABOUT IN THE FUNCTION A LITTLE MORE, ONE AT A TIME, BUT I WOULD JUST, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE GOOD, GOOD EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, PLANO IS DOING SOMETHING GOOD, UH, AND, UH, EVEN I SEE WHY EXAMPLE, THERE'S ALSO SHARE SOMETHING GOOD BECAUSE GETTING SOME OF THE FEEDBACK, BUT WHATEVER CELEBRATION WE DO IS PROBABLY MY OPINION, THAT IF WE CAN DO IT, LIKE, UH, CELEBRATION, CELEBRATION, THAT WOULD BE LIKE A DIVERSE CELEBRATION. 
          LIKE NOT, INSTEAD OF EACH CULTURAL ACTIVITY, CERTAIN DAYS, RATHER DO IT LIKE, YOU KNOW, DIVERSE, LIKE MULTICULTURAL, UH, ACTIVITY. 
          SO IT WOULD BE NOT DEDICATED TO ONE SPECIFIC CULTURE EACH DAY. 
          SO I'M GOING PROBABLY A LITTLE MORE DETAIL NOW, UH, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WHEN SOMEONE COMES OUT, THEY CAN, THEY'LL HAVE OPTION TO CHOOSE ALL KIND OF FOOD OR ALL KIND OF CULTURES SAME DAY. 
          SO THAT WILL PROBABLY BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER MORE THAN HAVING, SAY, WE ARE GONNA CELEBRATE THE CHINESE CELEBRATION TO MORRIS BENGALI CULTURE. 
          SO RATHER THAN HAVING A COMBINED CULTURAL EVENT, THAT'S, I THINK THE COMMISSION CAN THINK ABOUT THIS IN LITTLE MORE DETAIL, BUT, UH, I MIGHT BE THINKING A LITTLE MORE ADVANCE, UH, BUT HAVING A DIVERSE COMMUNITY, UH, DIVERSE COM COMMISSION, UH, THE WORDING ALSO NEED TO BE THERE, UH, NOT MAKE IT JUST ANOTHER COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, BECAUSE I STRONGLY BELIEVE OTHER COMMUNITIES DOING THIS ENGAGEMENT ALSO. 
          SO THIS IS A SPECIFIC PURPOSE. 
          SO WE SHOULD CALL IT, UH, DIVERSITY COMMITTEE, YOU KNOW, SOME, SOME OF THE WORD, BUT THE, THE WORD NEED TO BE THERE AND THAT TO MAKE IT MEANINGFUL. 
          I'LL JUST STOP HERE FOR NOW. 
          THANK YOU, MS. JUSTICE. 
          UH, THANK YOU. 
          I AGREE THAT IT SHOULD BE, UM, YOU KNOW, BORDER COMMISSION THAT'S, THAT'S PERMANENT. 
          UM, I FEEL LIKE THE IRONY OF THIS DISCUSSION IS A LOT OF THESE THINGS NEED TO BE DECIDED BY THAT BORDER COMMISSION ONCE WE PUT THEM TOGETHER. 
          YOU KNOW, LIKE, MAYBE WHAT, WHAT WILL WE CALL YOU? UM, THAT'S A QUESTION, YOU KNOW, THAT COULD BE THEIR FIRST QUESTION. 
          UH, DO YOU WANNA BE THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT BOARD? OBVIOUSLY, WE WOULD MAKE APPOINTMENTS WITH A, WITH, UH, A MIND TOWARD WHAT WE THINK THE PURPOSE OF THE BOARD SHOULD BE, RIGHT? SO IF WE THINK THAT THE BOARD IS SUPPOSED TO BE REFLECTIVE OF OUR DIVERSE COMMUNITY, THOSE ARE THE APPOINTMENTS WE COULD MAKE, AND THEN THEY COULD SORT OF DECIDE THEY WANNA BE CALLED. 
          I DON'T THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO FORCE ON THE BOARD. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I MADE A COMMENT RECENTLY. 
          WE WERE AT AN EVENT, UM, FOR THE NORTH TEXAS DISABILITY, UH, CHAMBER. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, IT WAS, UM, I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT IT BEFORE, BUT NOT AS ELOQUENTLY AS THE FOUNDER THERE PUT IT. 
          UM, TALKING ABOUT HOW ACCESSIBILITY NEEDS TO BE INCLUDED IN D E I, UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S OFTEN LEFT OFF. 
          PERHAPS THAT'S INCLUSION. 
          BUT, UM, I THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS A REALLY INTERESTING THING. 
          SO AGAIN, THIS CAN BE SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD, UM, CAN, I THINK, TALK ABOUT AND DECIDE AMONGST THEMSELF, UM, HOW THEY, HOW THEY WANNA, UM, DEFINE THEMSELF. 
          UM, BUT WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM A CLEAR PURPOSE. 
          AND SO I THINK THAT'S, UH, WHAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS TONIGHT. 
          LIKE, WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THIS BOARD? BECAUSE THE BOARD, WE'VE HAD BOARDS IN THE PAST THAT, UM, THERE WAS STRONG SUPPORT FOR IN THE BEGINNING, AND THEN, UH, EVENTUALLY WE'RE DISBANDED BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE A CLEAR PURPOSE, UM, AND CLEAR SUPPORT FROM THE CITY COUNCIL. 
          SO WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THIS BOARD, UM, SO THAT IT CAN BE SUCCESSFUL AND THRIVE. 
          UM, 
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AND I THINK THAT THESE ARE GREAT EXAMPLES, GREG. 
          I MEAN, REALLY, UM, IT'S ALMOST A COMBINATION OF ALL OF THEM WHEN I'M SORT OF LOOKING AT IT, TAKE A PIECE FROM HERE AND A PIECE FROM THERE. 
          MAYBE NOT CREATE AN ENTIRE CITY DEPARTMENT. 
          I DON'T THINK THAT'S IN OUR BUDGET . 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S LITTLE BITS AND PIECES, I THINK FROM ALL OF THESE CITIES THAT YOU'VE PICKED OUT THAT I THINK, UM, REALLY HONOR THE SPIRIT OF WHAT, OF WHAT I THINK OUR COUNCIL WANTS THIS, UH, BOARD OR COMMITTEE TO BE. 
          SO I'LL STOP THERE, BUT I'D BE INTERESTED TO HEAR MORE FROM MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS ABOUT WHAT, WHAT THEY WANT THE PURPOSE TO BE. 
          I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO BE ALIGNED ON THAT. 
          AND, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, BE PURPOSEFUL ABOUT IT. 
          , THANK YOU, JENNIFER. 
          CURTIS. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          I HAD A SUGGESTION FOR A NAME AND AN ACRONYM, UM, MEAD, M E E D, THAT'S MULTICULTURAL ENGAGEMENT, EQUITY AND DIVERSITY. 
          I THOUGHT THE M E E D I WAS TRYING TO PULL TOGETHER SOME OF THE WORDS AND TO SEE WHAT IT WOULD SPELL, AND IT'S JUST THE FIRST THROWOUT. 
          I'M SURE WE COULD REALLY DISSECT THIS A LITTLE BIT AND GET INTO SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE ACRONYM. 
          BUT, UM, I JUST CAME UP WITH THAT MULTI, AGAIN, MULTICULTURAL, UM, OR, UH, ENGAGEMENT, EQUITY AND DIVERSITY. 
          SO YEAH, ME, M E E D. 
          THERE WE GO. 
          THANK YOU , JOE. 
          OH, THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          YEAH, I, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE, I HADN'T THOUGHT OF LETTING THEM NAME THEMSELVES, BUT HONESTLY, I THINK THAT'S A, THAT'S A GREAT, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. 
          AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY CAN DO, LIKE THE COUNCIL MEMBER, DORIAN, WITH YOUR EXAMPLE OR OTHER EXAMPLES THAT ARE HERE. 
          I MEAN, WE COULD JUST RECOMMEND THAT THEY COME BACK AND WATCH THESE MEETINGS AND SAY, HEY, IF YOU WANT SOME IDEAS, YOU WANT SOME GOOD THOUGHTS, LIKE, WATCH THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WHERE THIS WHOLE DISCUSSION TOOK PLACE. 
          AND MAYBE USE THAT AS A STARTING POINT FOR THE DISCUSSION. 
          BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS LIKE THE SPECIFIC CHARGE, WHICH IS REALLY WHAT YOU WERE GETTING AT, UH, YOU KNOW, I, I NOTICED IN A LOT OF THESE, BUT ESPECIALLY WITH LIKE CONCORD'S MISSION, ARLINGTON'S, UM, A LOT OF THEM ARE OUTWARD FACING A LOT OF WHAT THEY DO. 
          IT'S, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK FOR, YOU KNOW, IT ALMOST LIKE GET A TWO TO ONE RATIO OF SPECIFIC CHARGES. 
          LIKE FOR EVERY ONE THAT'S INWARD FACING, THERE'S TWO THAT ARE OUTWARD FACING THE COMMUNITY, WHICH IS REALLY, UH, I THINK A GREAT SORT OF RATIO TO ASPIRE TO. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, EXAMINING AN INWARD THING MIGHT BE, HEY, WE ARE PUTTING UP A NEW POLICY LIKE THE COMP PLAN OR A MOBILITY STUDY. 
          UM, ANALYZE THAT FROM THE DIVERSITY PERSPECTIVE, BUT IN ADDITION TO TWO OUTWARD FACING THINGS, RIGHT? DO A LISTENING SESSION AROUND THE COMMUNITY, UM, OR, YOU KNOW, ENGAGE, BRING NEW ORGANIZATIONS INTO THE CITY'S ORBIT. 
          I, I LIKE THAT KIND OF OUTWARD FACING MAJORITY WITH A LITTLE BIT OF INWARD FACING SORT OF APPROACH. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          CHU. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. 
          I, I WILL SHARE SOME OF THE PERSONAL EXPERIENCE THAT I SERVE. 
          SOME COMMITTEES SIMILAR TO THIS DIVERSITY COMMITTEE IN THE PAST. 
          AND, UH, YOU KNOW, HAVING, YOU KNOW, WE ARE HERE, YOU KNOW, SEVEN MEMBER HERE, WE DISCUSSED THIS THING. 
          I'LL JUST REMIND THAT BASED ON THE INPUT THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED LAST FEW YEARS, OR EVEN SOMETIMES PERSONAL EXPERIENCE FOR YEARS, THAT'S WHY THIS, THIS DISCUSSION IS HERE TONIGHT. 
          IT, THIS DISCUSSION DID NOT HAPPEN TWO YEARS AGO. 
          THIS DISCUSSION DID NOT HAPPEN THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL EITHER. 
          SO YES, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, GETTING, YOU KNOW, GOING THROUGH THE DETAIL, ALL THIS, BUT I WILL REMIND THAT WE STAY FOCUSED BECAUSE SOMETIMES IF WE DON'T CLEARLY SET THE RULE, CERTAIN THINGS DOWN THE ROAD, THAT COULD REALLY END UP NOT HAVING ANYTHING. 
          SO, AND I HAVE SEEN THAT THIS COST MONEY, WHEN YOU START BRINGING, AND THEN YOU START BRINGING THE CONSULTANT TO GO THROUGH SOME DETAIL. 
          IF WE GO, YOU KNOW, I'M TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE PROCEDURAL ROUTE, THAT IF WE START THAT, THEN IT COULD BE A HUGE EXPENSE. 
          UH, I HAVE, YOU KNOW, I'M TRYING TO NOT TO SHARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE DISCUSS ON OTHER COMMITTEES DIFFERENT PLACES, BUT I HAVE SEEN THE STRUGGLE. 
          AND SOMETIMES YOU'D BE SURPRISED THAT, UH, STRUGGLE COULD BE FROM CERTAIN COMMITTEE MEMBERS. 
          THEY'RE NOT REALLY, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ALSO IN THE MINORITY COMMITTEES, YOU KNOW, GROUP. 
          SO, BECAUSE PEOPLE'S UNDERSTANDING IS DIFFERENT. 
          SO TO AVOID ANYTHING, I THINK, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE FIRST BULLET POINT THAT YOU HAVE CLEAR PURPOSE AND CHARGE, THAT'S IMPORTANT. 
          UH, SOME OF THE STRATEGIC PLANNING, WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT DOES THAT MEAN, THE CHARGE, IF YOU, UH, DETAILED PLANNING IS ONE THING VERSUS OVERALL PLANNING PURPOSE. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , THAT'S ONE THING. 
          SO I THINK THE DETAIL NEED TO BE DONE BY THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS. 
          AND THEN, BUT THE OVERALL, 
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SOME OF THE DIRECTION THAT, THAT NEED TO BE GIVEN BY THE COUNCIL WITH THE HELP OF, OF COURSE, THE STAFF AND OUR LEGAL TEAM, OTHERWISE, YOU KNOW, EVEN THE NAMING CONVENTION, UH, AND IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS TO COME UP WITH A NAME, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE COUNCIL STAYS ON IT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE ALL ARE SPEAKING NOT FROM JUST OURSELF. 
          WE ARE SPEAKING BECAUSE OF OUR COMMUNITY. 
          'CAUSE WE HAVE GONE THROUGH, YOU KNOW, WE ALL TALK TO LIKE SO MANY CONSTITUENTS OUTSIDE. 
          SO THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS REFLECTING WHAT'S OUR COMMUNITY WANT. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, I NEED TO, WE NEED TO CREATE A BALANCE, HOW TO COME UP WITH A NAME AND ALSO THE PURPOSE. 
          WE NEED TO HAVE A DEFINED PURPOSE. 
          OTHERWISE THERE WILL BE DISCUSSION THAT WHY EVEN WE WANT TO DO THAT. 
          THERE ARE OTHER COMMISSION OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, DOING THIS THING LIKE, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, LIKE, UH, WHAT IS THAT THING? UH, THERE ARE MANY OTHER D F W AREA, MINORITY GROUP, THEY DO THAT. 
          D I I, WHATEVER NAME OUT THERE. 
          AND SOME OF THE WORDS ARE ALREADY BECOME CONTROVERSY. 
          I'LL BE VERY HONEST SPEAKING THOSE THINGS. 
          UH, WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR THOSE. 
          WE'RE LOOKING TO UNITE OUR COMMUNITY AND MOVE FOR FORWARD AND CELEBRATE WHAT WE HAVE, UH, AND CELEBRATE IT MORE STRONGLY. 
          SO, SO I THINK I'M JUST TRYING TO SAY THAT IF WE DO ANYTHING THAT'S DO IT BALANCED WAY FROM HERE, AND THEN ALSO LET THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS TAKE DOWN THE ROAD. 
          THANK YOU, MR. T, YOUR HONOR. 
          MAYOR, I'D, I'D, I'D LIKE TO MAKE THE SUGGESTION, IF MY FELLOW COUNCIL PERSONS AGREE WITH THIS, IS THAT IN MY MIND, KIND OF LIKE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WITH OUR OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, I'D LOVE TO GET WHATEVER THE RIGHT NUMBER IS. 
          SEVEN, NINE. 
          I DON'T, I'M, I'M GONNA SAY SEVEN FOR THE MOMENT, JUST FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES. 
          DO, YOU KNOW, FIND THE, THE, IN OUR, IN OUR COLLECTIVE MINDS, THE RIGHT SEVEN PEOPLE, AND THEN LIKE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING WITH OUR OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, SIT DOWN AND FORMALIZE MEETING WITH US AND LET'S COLLABORATIVELY WITH THE NEW SEVEN COMMISSIONERS AND WITH US, BUILD WHAT THE MISSION IS, WHAT THE NAME IS. 
          GIVE 'EM AN OVERALL, OVERALL, UM, MY WORDS GUARDRAILS AS TO WHAT WE REALLY WANT, WHAT WE, WHAT WE COLLECTIVELY ALL, LET'S SAY 14 OF US WITH CITY STAFF INPUT AND PUT THAT ALL TOGETHER AND THEN HAVE THEM GO OUT. 
          AND THEN WE CAN, WE CAN WORK OVER THE, OVER THE NEXT YEAR TO, TO, TO PERIODICALLY, YOU KNOW, HAVE THEM ADVISE US. 
          JUST LIKE C P C WHEN WE HAVE A, A ZONING CASE, IF WE HAVE A, A BRIEFING THAT SAYS THE, I'M GONNA CALL IT THE D E I COMMITTEE RIGHT NOW, JUST SO JUST BEAR WITH ME ON THE NAMING CONVENTION. 
          BUT THE D E I COMMITTEE SUGGESTS THE FOLLOWING SIX EVENTS OVER THE NEXT SIX MONTHS THAT, THAT WE THINK, AND THEN THEY, THAT WOULD BE SENT TO US, AND THEN WE WOULD, WE WOULD DO JUST LIKE WE DO WITH C P C, FOR EXAMPLE, OR WHEN, WHENEVER ANY OTHER THINGS COME FORWARD TO US. 
          BUT I'D, I'D LIKE TO REALLY, I'D LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT WE DO THIS IN A COLLABORATIVE FASHION AFTER WE PICK THOSE SEVEN AND WORK COLLABORATIVELY. 
          JUST LIKE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SITTING DOWN AND, YOU KNOW, TALKING TO C P C AS TO WHAT MY WORDS, WHAT OUR EXPECTATIONS ARE, WHAT OUR THOUGHTS ARE, AND WITH ANIMAL CONTROL, ALL THE OTHER, UH, ALL THE OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSION. 
          SO I, I, I THINK IT OUGHT TO BE A REAL COLLABORATIVE PROCESS AND GO THAT APPROACH, RATHER THAN US TRYING TO SAY, WELL, HERE'S KIND OF THE, HERE'S SOME OF, KIND OF SOME OF THE THINGS Y'ALL GO OFF AND WORK ON. 
          I THINK IT'S GONNA BE A VERY LONG PROCESS VERSUS ALL OF US JUST COMING IN, TAKING A PART OF A COUNCIL MEETING AND, YOU KNOW, MAKE THE SAUSAGE, SO TO SPEAK MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO THAT, THAT WOULD BE MY, MY THOUGHTS. 
          THANK YOU, MS. JUSTICE. 
          UM, I APPRECIATE THE SPIRIT OF THAT. 
          FOR ME, THAT FEELS A LITTLE PATERNALISTIC. 
          LIKE WHY ARE WE PUTTING TOGETHER A BOARD THAT WE ARE ASKING TO SORT OF GO OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY AND, AND SPEAK TO US FROM A, FROM A DIVERSE POPULATION AND STANDPOINT ABOUT SORT OF WHAT WE WANT IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          AND SO, I MEAN, WITH RESPECT TO THE NAMING CONVENTION, COUNCILMAN KIRKMAN HAD A GOOD EXAMPLE. 
          YOU KNOW, THE PARKS COMMISSION COMES TO THE COUNCIL. 
          AND SO IF WE DON'T LIKE IT, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WE, WE CAN SAY NO, GO TRY AGAIN. 
          UM, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO SIT DOWN IN A MEETING. 
          I MEAN, THE WHOLE PURPOSE IN MY MIND OF PUTTING THIS COMMISSION TOGETHER IS, IS SO THAT WE CAN CHARGE THEM WITH A PURPOSE AND THEN THEY GO DO THE WORK. 
          UM, I MEAN, IF WE DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF THEM NAME, YOU KNOW, COMING UP WITH THE NAMING CONVENTION, FINE, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO SIT DOWN AT THE OUTSET WITH THEM. 
          FOR ME, WE TELL THEM WHAT THEIR PURPOSE IS, AND THEN THEY DETERMINE FROM THERE SORT OF WHAT THEIR STRATEGIES ARE GONNA BE. 
          HOW ARE THEY GONNA, HOW THEY'RE GONNA ACCOMPLISH THAT PURPOSE. 
          THEY COME BACK TO US. 
          PERHAPS WE CAN HAVE A JOINT MEETING AT THAT POINT. 
          UM, 
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YOU KNOW, KIND OF LIKE THE ARLINGTON EXAMPLE, GREG, THAT YOU GAVE, WHERE THEY WENT OUT, WHAT WAS IT LIKE FOR A YEAR WHERE THEY WENT OUT AND LIKE WENT INTO THE COMMUNITY AND SAID, WHAT IS IT THAT YOU WANT THIS TO BE? I WOULD LOVE FOR A, FOR, FOR THIS COMMUNITY TO GO DO THAT AND REALLY FIND OUT WHAT OUR COMMUNITY WANTS. 
          UM, CRAIG, IF YOU COULD, IF YOU COULD GO BACK TO THE SLIDE THAT, UH, IN THE VERY BEGINNING, I THINK WHAT, WHAT YOU, I MEAN, YOU'RE BOTH SAYING KIND OF THE SAME THING AS WE ENVISIONED IT. 
          BECAUSE ONCE YOU WOULD GET THROUGH THE RECRUITMENT PIECE, WE WOULD PROVIDE THE NECESSARY TRAINING THAT WE THINK WOULD SET THEM UP TO DO THAT IS THE STRATEGIC PLAN. 
          AND SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS EXACTLY RIGHT, BUT COUNCIL, UH, COUNCILMAN HUT, TO YOUR POINT, JUST LIKE OTHER COMMITTEES WE DO WOULD DO, WE WOULD COME BACK AND WE WOULD SHARE THAT STRATEGIC PLAN TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS ALIGNED WITH YOUR PURPOSE IN CHARGE. 
          I MEAN, THE, THE STRATEGIC PLAN, IF I CAN'T DRAW AN ARROW DIRECTLY BACK TO IT FOR YOU, THEN THE STRATEGIC PLAN, STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS WASN'T A SUCCESS, RIGHT? UM, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR REALLY IS, UM, ABOUT A PARAGRAPH OF A PURPOSE, AND THEN MAYBE SOME MAY, MAYBE FIVE TO SIX INITIAL CHARGES THAT WOULD HELP THIS COMMITTEE AS IT BEGINS THAT PROCESS. 
          AND SO, UM, MAYOR, IF I, IF I, IF I COULD I JUST THROW THIS OUT HERE IF, IF, IF, IF, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO, I, AS I'VE LISTENED, UH, NOW I'VE GONE THROUGH ALL SIX OF THESE EXAMPLES AND JUST STARRED, I THINK WHAT I'VE HEARD FROM EVERYBODY, I THINK THESE ARE THE, THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE CONSISTENT FROM A, NOT A PURPOSE, BUT A MORE OF A CHARGE STANDPOINT. 
          IF I COULD RUN THROUGH 'EM, MAYBE IF, IF YOU COULD JUST KINDA GIMME A THUMBS UP OR A THUMBS DOWN AND THEN THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO DO IS TO TAKE THAT, UH, GO, UH, GREG, GO TO THE, UH, RICHARDSON EXAMPLE. 
          IT WOULD ALLOW US, 'CAUSE I SAW A LOT OF HEADS SHAKING THE RICHARDSON EXAMPLE OF THE OH, OKAY. 
          GOTCHA. 
          THAT'S GOOD. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH, RIGHT THERE. 
          I SAW A LOT OF HEADS SHAKING, SAYING THIS IS KIND OF A GOOD PLACE TO START, IF THAT'S A GOOD PLACE TO START. 
          AND EVERYBODY, AS I READ THESE OFF, EVERYBODY'S ALSO KIND OF GIVING ME A THUMBS UP. 
          I THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO GO BACK AND REFINE THAT, AND THEN AS A PURPOSE, AND THEN TO BRING YOU ABOUT A HALF A DOZEN INITIAL CHARGES THAT COULD BE WHAT YOU WOULD UTILIZE TO RECRUIT. 
          'CAUSE THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'VE GOTTA DO. 
          WE'VE GOTTA MAKE, UH, MAYOR PRO VIEWPOINT, THEY HAVE TO REALLY MAKE SURE PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THEY'RE SIGNING UP FOR MM-HMM. 
          . 
          AND SO, UM, IF THAT'S A GOOD STARTING PLACE. 
          SO I, I, I THINK I'VE HEARD FROM EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, IF WE WERE, IF THIS COMMISSION, UH, WAS, UH, TO ASSIST GROUPS OF DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS TO GAIN A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF CITY GOVERNMENT AND HOW THEY COULD BE INVOLVED, THAT WOULD BE A, THAT WOULD BE A POSITIVE. 
          UM, IF THIS COMMISSION COULD HELP ENCOURAGE AND FACILITATE COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITY AND THESE DIFFERENT GROUPS, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD, A GOOD CHARGE FOR 'EM. 
          UM, IF, UM, THIS COMMISSION COULD HELP PROMOTE, UH, INCLUSION THROUGHOUT THE CITY, IF IT COULD HELP FACILITATE LEARNING, UNDERSTANDING AND UNITY, THOSE WOULD ALL BE GOOD CHARGES. 
          UM, IF IT COULD HELP, UM, DEVELOP A, UH, DEVELOP LEADERSHIP FROM THESE DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD CHARGE. 
          AND THEN IF IT COULD HELP, UH, ALONG THE LINES OF THE, UH, INCREASE, UH, INCLUSION, INCREASE COMMUNITY PARTICIPATION, AND THEN ALSO SOLICIT COMMUNITY FEEDBACK WOULD BE A GOOD CHARGE. 
          UM, I HEARD REVIEW AND, UM, UH, REVIEW POLICIES AND PROCEDURES SUCH AS LI SUCH AS THE A T P OR THE PARKS MASTER PLAN WOULD BE A GOOD CHARGE. 
          UM, AND THEN, UM, SUPPORT OUR EFFORTS FOR INCREASED OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT. 
          SO IF THOSE ALL SOUND LIKE GOOD INITIAL CHARGES, UM, I THINK WE COULD GO OFF, UM, AGAIN, REFINE THIS MESSAGE NOW THAT HAVING THAT FEEDBACK, AND THEN MAYBE COME BACK WITH ABOUT A HALF DOZEN INITIAL CHARGES THAT YOU COULD GO OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS OUR INITIAL THINKING ON THIS. 
          BUT, UH, AGAIN, YOU, YOU WERE BOTH RIGHT ON THROUGH THAT STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS THAT'LL GROW. 
          IT'LL BE ENHANCED. 
          THOSE INITIAL CHARGES WILL BE ENHANCED. 
          YOU'LL START GETTING SOME OF THE DETAIL THAT WE WERE STARTING TO KIND OF GET INTO, BUT THEN WE WILL COME BACK, COUNCILMAN, HUTCHER RIDER, UH, WE'LL COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S AN, THAT THAT ULTIMATE STRATEGIC PLAN ALIGNS WITH WHAT WE ALL THOUGHT WAS THE PURPOSE AND, AND THE INITIAL, UM, UH, CHARGES. 
          AND SO, UM, JUST WANTED TO OFFER THAT AS A, AS A, I WE'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF GOOD LISTENING, AND THIS HAS BEEN AWESOME FEEDBACK. 
          SO I KIND OF FEEL LIKE WE'RE STARTING TO GET A SENSE. 
          DONNA, I THINK YOU CAPTURED WHAT I THINK EVERYONE ON THE COUNCIL WAS SAYING. 
          AND I THINK THAT THE INITIAL CHARGE THAT WE HAVE, THAT I THINK THAT WE'RE CONCERNED WITH, AND I DON'T WANNA PUT WORDS IN EVERYBODY'S MOUTH, WHERE I THINK, I THINK OUR INTENTIONS, EVERYONE ON THIS COUNCIL IS IN FAVOR OF INCLUSION AND DIVERSITY AND TAKING CARE OF THAT, BECAUSE WE FEEL LIKE THERE'S A VOID THERE. 
          THE COMMUNITY FEELS LIKE THERE'S A VOID THERE. 
          WHERE WE'RE COMING SHORT IS WE CAN'T GET THE INVOLVEMENT. 
          WE ASK PEOPLE, GET ENGAGED, GET ENGAGED, GET ENGAGED, AND THEN THEY DON'T GET ANYONE TO FOLLOW THEM AS THEY TRY TO GET ENGAGED. 
          SO IT, WE HAVE, WE CALL 'EM THE SAME FIVE PEOPLE YEAR IN AND YEAR OUT, AND THEY'RE THE ONES THAT REPRESENT THE DIVERSITY, AND WE'RE 
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TRYING TO INCLUDE THEM. 
          WE NEED THEM TO HELP GET PEOPLE INVOLVED. 
          SO I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS RIGHT ON. 
          I THINK WE HAVE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY UNDERSTANDS WE'RE PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS AND THAT THIS IS REALLY WHERE WE WANT TO GO, SO THAT WE CAN GET THOSE PEOPLE ACTIVELY ENGAGED. 
          SO THE ENGAGEMENT PART IS WHAT WE'VE GOTTA GET. 
          AND I THINK WE NEED, AS A COUNCIL, WE'VE GOT TO IDENTIFY THE PEOPLE WHO COULD GO GET THE PEOPLE TO COME AND BUY IN TO WHAT WE'RE DOING. 
          SO I THINK YOUR POINTS ARE RIGHT ON, UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS, JENNIFER? I'M SAYING, SO LIKE, LIKE THE, THE, THE PEOPLE ON THIS COMMITTEE WOULD SERVE AS AMBASSADORS FOR THIS AMBASSADORS. 
          EXACTLY. 
          YEAH. 
          I, I AGREE WITH THAT. 
          AND I THINK ALSO THINKING ABOUT PUTTING IN THIS PURPOSE, YOU KNOW, I THINK TO THE MAYOR'S POINT TO, TO EVERYONE'S POINT, THE IDEA OF THIS BOARD IS TO REALLY, TO BRING DIVERSE BACKGROUNDS MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO TO THE EXTENT THAT WE COULD PUT THAT SOMEHOW IN THE PURPOSE MM-HMM. 
          , THAT IT'S NOT GONNA BE A BOARD OF, UH, THE SAME, YOU KNOW, 10 PEOPLE THAT ARE ALWAYS INTERESTED IN SERVING ON BOARDS, BUT REALLY A BOARD THAT REFLECTS THE DIVERSE COMMUNITY. 
          LIKE, I THINK THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE A PART SO THAT WHEN WE ARE APPOINTING PEOPLE, IT'S A CLEAR PART OF THE CHARGE OF THIS COMMITTEE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, SO THAT, THAT, AGAIN, FUTURE COUNCILS, UH, SORT OF DON'T SLIP AWAY FROM WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THIS WAS. 
          JOE, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. 
          I JUST WANTED TO, UM, TO SAY WHAT I, WHAT I THOUGHT WAS MISSING, AND I WAS GONNA BRING UP AT THE VERY END HERE WAS, WAS WHY WE'RE DOING THIS IN THE FIRST PLACE. 
          AND, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE MAYOR DOOBY, I'M VERY APPRECIATIVE. 
          'CAUSE I THINK YOU GUYS BOTH VERY ELOQUENTLY STATED WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THIS ENTIRE DISCUSSION IS. 
          AND I'M GLAD THAT THAT HAPPENED. 
          AND I JUST WANTED TO, TO THANK YOU BOTH FOR DOING THAT AND MAKING SURE THAT DIDN'T GET LOST IN THIS WHOLE DISCUSSION. 
          THANK KIM. 
          AND I JUST WANT TO, NOT TO BE ARGUMENTATIVE, BUT COUNCILWOMAN JUSTICE, I WAS NOT IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM SAYING IT WAS GONNA BE A PATERNALISTIC. 
          I WANTED IT TO BE VERY COOPERATIVE AND HAVE PEOPLE HAVE IT, HAVE IT BE A VERY COOPERATIVE AND VERY COLLABORATIVE DISCUSSION, NOT PATERNALISTIC IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM. 
          SO I JUST WANTED TO, YEAH, I THINK THE CITY MANAGER'S, RIGHT? I THINK WE WERE BOTH SAYING THE SAME THING. 
          WE JUST WEREN'T, WE WEREN'T SAYING IT, YOU KNOW, LIKE, YEAH, I JUST DIDN'T, WE'RE AT DIFFERENT STAGES OF THE, THE PLANNING AND, YOU KNOW, NOT COMMUNICATING WELL. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR STEPPING IN CITY MANAGER THERE. 
          YEAH, I, I APPRECIATE THAT AS WELL. 
          'CAUSE I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T WANT THAT TO COME ACROSS AS I WAS SAYING, I WAS SUGGESTING THAT WE WERE GOING TO TELL THEM WHAT TO DO. 
          I WANTED TO BE VERY, VERY COLLABORATIVE. 
          SO JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          SO MR. MAGNER AND GREG, I THINK WE HAVE NEXT STEPS IN PLACE. 
          YES, SIR. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          AWESOME PRESENTATION. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR FEEDBACK. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          OKAY. 
          AT THIS TIME 
          [E. REPORT ON ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST]
WE'RE GOING TO GO TO ITEM E REPORT ON ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST COUNSEL, ANYBODY, MS. JUSTICE. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          UM, HUGE SHOUT OUT TO ALLY OVER AT THE EISMAN CENTER. 
          I WENT FRIDAY NIGHT, UM, TO RANKIE TANKY FEATURING, UH, LISA FISHER. 
          AND IT WAS AWESOME. 
          I MEAN, THIS IS A TWO TIME GRAMMY AWARD-WINNING JAZZ GROUP THAT CAME TO THE EISMAN CENTER FEATURING, AND, AND ALSO GRAMMY AWARD-WINNING SINGER. 
          LIKE, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE CALIBER OF THIS LISA FISHER WOMAN. 
          SHE SANG BACKUP FOR TINA TURNER. 
          SHE SANG BACKUP FOR THE ROLLING STONES FOR ALMOST TWO DECADES. 
          I MEAN, THE, THE CALIBER OF THE TALENT OF THE PEOPLE THAT WERE AT THE EISMAN CENTER ON FRIDAY NIGHT. 
          I JUST, IT, IT WAS INCREDIBLE. 
          UM, AND SHOUT OUT TO LORI GARVEY, WHO APPARENTLY IS LISA FISHER'S NUMBER ONE FAN, , AND HAD THE TIME OF HER LIFE. 
          UM, IT WAS, IT WAS ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL. 
          SO A HUGE SHOUT OUT TO ALLIE. 
          IT WAS AN AMAZING EVENT. 
          I LEARNED A LOT ABOUT THE GUA CULTURE IN SOUTH CAROLINA AND THE SOUTHEASTERN UNITED STATES AS PART OF THE STORYTELLING, UH, OF RANKING TANKY. 
          AND SO, UH, NOT ONLY WAS IT ENTERTAINING, IT WAS EDUCATIONAL, AND IT WAS A GREAT DIVERSE TALENT, UM, AT THE ICEMAN CENTER FRIDAY NIGHT. 
          SO WELL DONE, ALLY. 
          THANK YOU, CURTIS. 
          AND THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          I, I, UH, DIDN'T GET THE CHANCE TO ATTEND, BUT I DID SEE SOME VIDEO, AND YOU'RE RIGHT, THEY DID SUCH A GREAT JOB. 
          JUST FROM THE LITTLE CLIPS THAT I SAW, I WISH I WAS ABLE TO ATTEND. 
          UM, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY, UH, TO GO ON SUNDAY, UM, AFTERNOON, THE RICHARDSON, UH, COMMUNITY CORRAL CONCERT, 150 YEAR CELEBRATION WAS HELD AT HUFFINES PARK. 
          UM, AND THEY SERVED, UH, YOGURT, UM, I THINK IT WAS CALLED MONSTER YOGURT, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. 
          BUT ANYWAY, THEY WERE JUST REALLY GLAD THAT, UM, THAT THEY COULD PERFORM. 
          THEY HAD A NICE AUDIENCE. 
          UM, IT WAS, UH, A LITTLE CHILLY OUTSIDE THOUGH. 
          WE WALKED OUTSIDE. 
          I THOUGHT, WELL, I HAD BEEN OUT. 
          I I WAS AT THE OFFICE, SO I CAME OUTSIDE FOR A WHILE AND I THOUGHT, OH MY GOODNESS. 
          IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE CHILLY. 
          BUT EVERYONE BOUGHT BROUGHT BLANKETS AND THEY HAD A REALLY NICE TIME. 
          AND, UM, GOT TO MEET A LOT OF PEOPLE AND, UH, JUST HAVE A CHAT WITH THEM. 
          SO ANYWAY, I JUST WANT TO CALL THAT OUT, 'CAUSE THANK YOU. 
          THEY DON'T DO A LOT. 
          MR. HUTCHIN RIDER. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          ON LAST TUESDAY, WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY, THANKS TO OUR CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, TO HAVE A STATE OF THE DISTRICT LUNCHEON THAT FEATURED BOTH, UH, SUPERINTENDENTS, TABITHA 
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BRENHAM AND THERESA WILLIAMS, R I S D AND P I S D. 
          AND REALLY GOT A GREAT UPDATE AS TO WHAT'S OCCURRING. 
          THE, AND I JUST, YOU KNOW, WE'VE SAID IT BEFORE, I THINK ALL COLLECTIVELY HAVE SAID THIS. 
          IT'S JUST, IT'S SO REFRESHING AND SO, UM, SUCH A, A, A VITAL PART OF OUR COMMUNITY TO HAVE SUCH TWO STRONG SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT SUPPORT OUR COMMUNITY. 
          UM, AND AS, AS THEY ASKED, YOU KNOW, IF YOU, IF YOU HAVE, IF YOU HAVE THOUGHTS ON, UH, ON WHAT'S OCCURRING CURRENTLY IN THE, IN THE, IN THE SPECIAL SESSION, PLEASE REACH OUT TO OUR LEGISLATORS AND PROVIDE THAT INPUT. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WE ASK FOR IT ALL THE TIME HERE LOCALLY, BUT THEY REALLY ASK IF WE COULD, YOU KNOW, REALLY ASK PEOPLE IF YOU HAVE THOUGHTS, PLEASE GET 'EM TO YOUR, TO YOUR REPRESENTATIVES. 
          'CAUSE NOW'S THE CHANCE TO, TO, TO HAVE THAT IMPACT. 
          SO JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT AS WELL. 
          THANKS SO MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OR THANK YOU, YOU, MR. MAYOR. 
          I KNOW THAT, UH, THE TIME, THIS IS THE NICE WEATHER. 
          SO WE, WE HAVE SO MANY EVENTS EVERY DAY. 
          UH, SO JUST TRYING TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WHICH ONE SHOULD I SAY? UH, LAST FRIDAY WE HAD A RECESSION, HOMECOMING PERIOD THAT ALWAYS AS USUAL, YOU KNOW, LOTS OF EXCITEMENT THERE AND LOTS OF PEOPLE OUT THERE CELEBRATING THAT DAY. 
          AND IT LOOKS LIKE THE WHOLE NEIGHBOR, YOU KNOW, CITY KNOWS YOU, MR. MAYOR. 
          SO , WE WROTE TOGETHER THIS TIME. 
          UH, I HAD BETTER EXPERIENCE BEFORE WHEN I WAS RIDING BY MYSELF. 
          I HAD, MY NAME WAS MANY TIMES, BUT THIS TIME LOOKS LIKE FROM THE KIDS TO EVERYONE KNOWS YOU. 
          UH, THAT WAS GREAT. 
          AND ALSO, UH, SATURDAY, RIGHT? SATURDAY WE HAD ANOTHER EVENT THAT WE ATTENDED THAT WAS, UH, THAT WAS, UH, ORGANIZED BY R P D RICHARD POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THOSE EVENT HISPANIC HERITAGE DAY CELEBRATION, UH, THAT WAS GREAT AS USUAL. 
          SO, UH, LOTS OF FUN OUT THERE THAT DAY. 
          UH, LOTS OF COLOR AND, UH, I THINK THAT'S ABOUT IT. 
          UH, I WOULD SAY THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, JOE. 
          UH, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. 
          THE PARKS COMMISSION MET ON THE 10TH. 
          UH, IT WAS MY FIRST, UH, LIA UH, MEETING AS A LIAISON FOR THE ACTUAL MEETING ITSELF FOR THE PARKS COMMISSION. 
          AND, UM, I GOTTA SAY THEY, WHAT A GREAT GROUP OF PEOPLE. 
          THEY GOT GREAT UPDATES ON THE ATHLETIC PROGRAMS AND REALLY WARMLY INTRODUCED OR WELCOMED, UH, NEW STAFF THAT WERE INTRODUCED AT THE MEETING. 
          UM, AND THEY, THEY HAD VERY, UH, VERY ACTIVE AND COLLABORATIVE DISCUSSIONS ON, UH, PARK NAME RECOMMENDATIONS, WHICH WILL BE COMING TO US, UH, SHORTLY. 
          AND SO, I JUST WANNA SAY, UH, FOR MY FIRST MEETING I WAS JUST VERY IMPRESSED BY HOW, HOW COLLABORATIVE, UH, THAT COMMISSION IS AND HOW WELL THEY'RE WORKING RIGHT NOW. 
          THANK YOU, JOE. 
          THANKS TO ALL OF YOU. 
          REAL QUICK, I'D LIKE TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO GARY THOMAS, WHO IS RETIRED AFTER 20 YEARS WITH OUR PRESIDENT AND EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF DART. 
          HE WAS RECOGNIZED AND HE WAS PUT INTO THE TEXAS TRANSPORTATION HALL OF HONOR TODAY FOR HIS TRANSITIONAL CHANGES OVER 20 YEARS OF TRANSIT AND, AND MAKING A DIFFERENCE HERE IN THE METROPLEX. 
          SO A SHOUT OUT TO GARY. 
          REALLY PROUD OF HIM AND WE WANNA THANK HIM FOR ALL HE'S DONE FOR US IN THE CITY OF RICHARDSON AND THE ENTIRE REGION. 
          HE IS A, UH, AMAZING MAN AND VERY DESERVING OF THAT INDUCTION. 
          SO THAT'S ALL I GOT. 
          MR. MAGNER, WE ARE GONNA CALL THIS A NIGHT, I THINK, AS WE GO INTO CLOSED SESSION. 
          YES SIR. 
          EXECUTIVE SESSION 
          [EXECUTIVE SESSION ]
AND IT IS OFFICIALLY 7 43. 
          WE'RE GONNA GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AND I'VE GOTTA READ THIS, HOLD ON, LET ME PUT MY GLASSES ON. 
          PAGE TWO, PLEASE. 
          OKAY. 
          COUNSEL WILL NOW CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION IN COMPLIANCE WITH SECTION 5 51 DASH 0.074 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE. 
          COUNSEL WILL CONVENE INTO CLOSE SESSION TO DISCUSS THE FOLLOWING DELIBERATION REGARDING PERSONNEL MATTERS. 
          DISCUSSION REGARDING APPOINTMENTS, APPOINTMENTS, REAPPOINTMENTS FOR THE QUASI JUDICIAL BOARDS, A COMMISSION, CITY PLAN, COMMISSION, CIVIL SERVICE BOARD, ZONING, BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS, BUILDING AND STANDARDS COMMISSION. 
          SO WE WILL NOW CONVENE OFFICIALLY AT 7 44. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
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