Dec 18, 2023 City Council Work Session

YOU WANNA START OVER? YEAH, I WILL.

PLEASE DO.

CITING THE GENOCIDE OF HIS PASSING IN PILLOWS IN GAZA, THEY SAID, MUND ISAAC, PASTOR OF THE EVANGELICAL LUTHERAN CHURCH IN BETHLEHEM.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

I'D LIKE TO WISH THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE RICHARDSON CITY STAFF A HAPPY HOLIDAY.

I KNOW DESPITE HONEST DIFFERENCES OF OPINION, THE CITY'S REPRESENTATIVES AND EMPLOYEES WANT WHAT'S BEST FOR ITS CITIZENRY GOING FORWARD.

2024 WILL BE CHALLENGING FOR YOU AND INDEED FOR ALL OF US, UH, GIVEN TODAY'S CONTENTIOUS ENVIRONMENT.

SO I WISH EVERYONE GOOD LUCK, SEASONS GREETINGS AND BEST WISHES FOR THE HAPPY NEW YEAR.

AND I SEE YOU HAVE PRESENCE BACK AGAINST THE WALL.

SO I GUESS THE CITY COUNCIL HAS ALREADY EXCHANGED, UH, PLEASANTRIES HERE.

SO, UH, MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR.

THANK YOU, ANNE ALBANA.

GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS ANNE ALBANA.

I LIVE ON, UM, CANTERRA LANE RICHARDSON.

I TRY TO ENLARGE MY FONT SO THAT I DON'T HAVE TO USE MY READER.

LET'S TRY.

DEAR COUNCIL MEMBERS, THE FESTIVE SEASON IS UPON US.

MERRY CHRISTMAS.

CHRISTMAS IS A SEASON OF BEDAZZLING LIGHTS AND DECORATIONS.

IT IS ALSO A SEASON FORGIVING, RECEIVING, CARING, AND SHARING JOYFUL TIMES WITH FAMILY AND FRIENDS, WHILE CELEBRATING THE BIRTH OF JESUS.

PEACE BE UPON HIM IN CHURCH OR AT THE CHRISTMAS DINNER TABLE.

PLEASE REMEMBER THAT JESUS IS A PALESTINIAN JEW WHO WAS BORN IN BETHLEHEM, THE PALESTINIAN TOWN THAT BECOMES THE CENTER OF THE WORLD'S MEDIA'S ATTENTION FOR A FEW MINUTES ON CHRISTMAS EVE EVERY YEAR, AND GETS PUSHED TO THE DARK EDGES OF OUR GLOBAL SOCIETY THROUGH THE REST OF THE YEAR.

AND JUST IN CASE CNN AND FOX NEWS DID NOT INFORM YOU, I'D LIKE YOU TO KNOW THAT THE CHRISTIAN PALESTINIANS OF BETHLEHEM, WHO ARE THE DESCENDANTS OF JESUS CONTEMPORARIES AND WHO HAVE BEEN MILITARILY OCCUPIED AND BESIEGED BY A MASSIVE SEPARATION WALL DEEMED ILLEGAL BY THE INTERNATIONAL COURT OF JUSTICE, HAVE CANCELED CHRISTMAS CELEBRATIONS THIS YEAR.

THERE IS NO CHRISTMAS TREE IN MANGER SQUARE, NO CHRISTMAS LIGHTS IN BETHLEHEM STREETS AND NO MUSICAL PARADES.

THE CITY IS WEARING ITS MORNING DRESS

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AND I QUOTE HERE, THEY AT THE WHITE HOUSE CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS IN THEIR LAND AND WAGE WAR IN OUR LAND.

END OF QUOTE, OF THE PALESTINIAN CHRISTIAN POPULATION WHO WERE EXPELLED FROM THEIR HOMES AND TOWNS, LESS THAN 10% REMAINED IN THEIR HOMES.

THEY ARE NOW TAKING CARE OF CHRISTIANITY'S MOST SACRED SITES LIKE THE NATIVITY CHURCH IN BETHLEHEM AND THE CHURCH OF HOLY SEPULCHER IN JERUSALEM.

SINCE OCTOBER 7TH, DOZENS OF PALESTINIAN CHRISTIANS HAVE BEEN MASSACRED IN THEIR HOMES AND THE CHURCHES THEY TOOK REFUGE IN FROM THE ISRAELI BOMBARDMENT, THE THIRD OLDEST CHURCH IN THE WORLD WAS BOMBED AND LEVEL TO THE GROUND IN GAZA.

I'M NOT HIGHLIGHTING SUCH AGGRESSION AGAINST OUR PALESTINIAN CHRISTIAN AND BROTHERS AND SISTERS TO MAKE YOU THINK THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE IN PAST TIME WHO ARE WORTH YOUR SYMPATHY MORE THAN OTHER PEOPLE.

SUPPORTING GENOCIDE OF ANY PEOPLE IS OBS SANITY.

ON THE CONTRARY, I'M TRYING TO SHOW EVIDENCE THAT THE PALESTINIAN CAUSE IS NOT, AS THE MEDIA TRIES TO FRAME IT, A RELIGIOUS CONFLICT BETWEEN JEWS AND MUSLIMS. IT'S A CAUSE OF PEOPLE, REGARDLESS OF THEIR ETHNIC OR RELIGIOUS BACKGROUND, WANTING TO LIVE IN DIGNITY AND FREEDOM.

THE PALESTINIANS DON'T CARE IF THEIR COLONIZER WAS JEWISH OR BUDDHIST, EUROPEAN OR CHINESE.

FREEDOM, DIGNITY AND SELF-DETERMINATION ARE THE DRIVING FORCE BEHIND THEIR CAUSE.

FAILING TO MAKE A FIRM STANCE AGAINST THE GENOCIDE AND MASS STARVATION OF THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE BRINGS INTO QUESTION THE FUNDAMENTAL BELIEFS WE HOLD ABOUT HUMAN EQUALITY, FREEDOM AND HUMAN DIGNITY.

AS A PEOPLE, IF WE CLAIM TO HOLD THE MORAL LEADERSHIP OF THE WORLD, IF WE BELIEVE IN THE UNIVERSAL SIGNIFICANCE OF OUR FREEDOMS, BUT DENY THOSE SAME FREEDOMS TO CERTAIN GROUPS OF PEOPLE, SOMETHING IS TERRIBLY WRONG.

SO, DEAR COUNCIL MEMBERS, I HOPE YOU TAKE THE TIME OF THE CHRISTMAS HOLIDAY TO THINK AND REFLECT.

I HOPE YOU, WHEN YOU COME BACK, YOU CORRECT THE WRONG AND PASS A CEASEFIRE RESOLUTION.

THANK YOU, DEB, OUR MENTOR.

HI, MY NAME IS DEB ARMAR.

I LIVE IN DENTON.

UH, THIS IS MY FIRST TIME, UH, AT RICHARDSON CITY COUNCIL.

SO I'M A LITTLE NERVOUS.

FORGIVE ME.

UM, I WANNA THANK ALL OF YOU, UH, FOR THE HARD WORK THAT YOU DO FOR THIS CITY.

I SERVED TWO TERMS MYSELF ON DENTON CITY COUNCIL, AND I KNOW, UH, WHAT A LABOR OF LOVE IT IS.

UM, I AM HERE, DEB, REAL QUICK.

YES.

YOUR ADDRESS, YOUR ADDRESS.

OH, I'M SO SORRY.

UM, IT'S 2003 MISTY WOOD LANE IN DENTON.

UM, I'M HERE TODAY TO URGE YOU TO JOIN THE GROWING NUMBER OF CITIES IN TEXAS AND NATIONWIDE.

ISSUING RESOLUTIONS URGING OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO DEMAND A CEASEFIRE IN PALESTINE AND TO STOP FUNDING THE ISRAELI GOVERNMENT'S ONGOING WAR CRIMES AGAINST THE PEOPLE OF GAZA AND PALESTINE.

I'M HERE AS A PROUD JEWISH AMERICAN.

I'M THE GRANDDAUGHTER OF JEWISH UKRAINIAN REFUGEES AND A PROUD MEMBER OF JEWISH VOICE FOR PEACE.

I ALSO HAPPEN TO BE A LITERATURE PROFESSOR AT UNIVERSITY OF NORTH TEXAS, WHERE I REGULARLY TEACH A COURSE ON LITERATURE IN THE HOLOCAUST.

I TEACH THAT COURSE BECAUSE I WANT EVERYONE TO REMEMBER THE 6 MILLION LIVES LOST WHILE THE WORLD WATCHED IN SILENCE.

I CONSIDER IT MY DUTY AS A JEW, AS A WORLD CITIZEN, AS AN AMERICAN, AND AS A HUMAN BEING TO PRESERVE THE PAINFUL MEMORY OF THE HOLOCAUST SO THAT IT NEVER HAPPENS AGAIN TO ANYONE.

THERE ARE MANY, MANY JEWS WORLDWIDE WHO FEEL THE SAME, NOT IN SPITE OF OUR JUDAISM, BUT BECAUSE OF

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IT.

WHAT I SEE HAPPENING IN ISRAEL AND PALESTINE TODAY RIPS MY VERY SOUL APART.

MY JUDAISM TELLS ME THAT I CANNOT BE SILENT.

SO I SAY TO THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT AT ALL LEVELS, FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO THE STATE, TO STATE GOVERNMENTS, TO COUNTIES AND CITIES.

I SAY, NOT IN MY NAME, NOT IN MY NAME, CAN YOU? WE, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND OUR GOVERNMENTS, CONTINUE TO FUND WAR CRIMES AGAINST AN ENTIRE PEOPLE.

THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN FILLING THE STREETS AND STOPPING TRAFFIC NATIONWIDE TO SAY, NOT IN OUR NAME, MANY OF THEM, MY FELLOW JEWS, AND SOME OF THEM WEARING THESE, UH, T-SHIRTS THAT SAY NOT IN OUR NAME.

AND ON THE BACK IT SAYS, JEWS FOR CEASEFIRE.

THE HOLOCAUST TEACHES US THAT FUTURE GENERATIONS WILL REMEMBER FOR ETERNITY WHAT EACH OF US HAS DONE TO STAND UP AGAINST THE GENOCIDE THAT WILL CEMENT THE YEAR 2023 IN THE HISTORY BOOKS AS A BLOODY AND TRAGIC YEAR.

THE HISTORY BOOKS REMEMBER THE EUROPEAN CITIES AND COMMUNITIES THAT SHELTERED MY PEOPLE DURING THE HOLOCAUST, AND THAT STOOD UP AGAINST NAZI GENOCIDE.

AND THE HISTORY BOOKS ALSO REMEMBER, AND FUTURE GENERATIONS JUDGE UNKINDLY THOSE CITIES AND STATES THAT WERE COMPLICIT.

WHEN THERE IS A GENOCIDE IN WHICH A POWERFUL GOVERNMENT LIKE OURS IS COMPLICIT, THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS AN INNOCENT BYSTANDER.

AS INDIVIDUALS AND AS LOCAL ELECTED OFFICIALS, EACH OF US, MYSELF INCLUDED, ARE EITHER PART OF THE SOLUTION OR PART OF THE PROBLEM.

THE ACTION YOU'RE BEING ASKED TO, TO TAKE TODAY IS A SIMPLE ONE.

IT DOESN'T COST A DIME.

IT BUYS YOU INCREASING GOODWILL, AND IT ALLOWS YOU TO SLEEP AT NIGHT.

TO DO NOTHING, HOWEVER, IS A TERRIBLE RISK THAT WOULD TARNISH THE, THE TARNISH, YOUR LEGACY AND THE LEGACY OF THIS BEAUTIFUL CITY.

AND ITS MAGNIFICENT PEOPLE, IRRE IRREPARABLY.

AND THE SAME GOES FOR EVERY, UH, EVERY CITY.

AND I HOPE THAT MY HOME CITY OF DENTON WILL ALSO PASS A SIMILAR RESOLUTION IF YOU VOTE YES, UH, AND IF YOU PUT THIS RESOLUTION FORWARD, YOU CAN TELL YOUR GRANDCHILDREN AND YOUR GREAT-GRANDCHILDREN WITH PRIDE.

IF YOU DO NOTHING, WHEN THEY ASK WHAT YOU DID, YOU MIGHT FIND IT HARD TO FACE THEM.

IT'S SO EASY TO DO THE RIGHT THING, IN THIS CASE, FOR RICHARDSON, FOR THE US AND THE WORLD RIGHT NOW.

AND IT COSTS YOU NOTHING BUT TO DO NOTHING AT THIS CRITICAL MOMENT IN WORLD HISTORY WILL LOSE YOU EVERYTHING.

AND OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION.

OUR LAST SPEAKER SIGNED UP IS AISHA SABINE.

HELLO, UM, 5 0 5 GOODMAN DRIVE, RICHARDSON, TEXAS.

HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO EVERYBODY AND ALSO HAPPY NEW YEAR.

I WON'T SEE YOU GUYS BACK HERE, UM, UNTIL YOU GUYS ARE BACK IN SESSION.

SO BEFOREHAND, I'M HERE ONCE AGAIN TO REQUEST MY CITY COUNCIL TO ADOPT A CEASEFIRE RESOLUTION.

I HAVE READ AND AGREE WITH A THOUGHTFUL STATEMENT YOU POSTED, AND I THANK YOU FOR IT.

HOWEVER, I DO NOT FEEL IT SUFFICIENTLY ENCOMPASSES WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS GOING THROUGH.

I REALIZE THAT ON A PERSONAL LEVEL, MANY OF YOU AGREE THAT THE CONFLICT MAY ONLY, CAN ONLY BE RESOLVED THROUGH DIPLOMACY.

THIS REALIZATION IS COMFORTING, BUT ONLY FOR A BRIEF MOMENT.

I FULLY ADVOCATE FOR PEOPLE ON A PERSONAL LEVEL TO HOLD REASONABLE SOLUTIONS TO UNREASONABLE SITUATIONS.

BUT REAL LASTING CHANGE CAN ONLY COME ON A SYSTEMATIC LEVEL, STEPPING UPWARD IN HIERARCHY, CITIES, COUNTIES, STATES, AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, SYSTEMATIC CHANGE NEVER COMES FROM THE TOP DOWN, ALWAYS GOES FROM THE BOTTOM UP.

A CEASEFIRE RESOLUTION MAY SEEM UNIMAGINABLE AT FIRST, BUT IT COMES TO FRUITION IF WE ARE TRUE TO OUR BELIEFS.

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FOR THOSE IN HOSPITAL SETTINGS OR HOSPITAL SYSTEMS, SYSTEMATIC CHANGES ARE SEEN AND REFLECTED IN PROTOCOLS.

THEY ALWAYS START WITH THE CASE STUDY, THEN A COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS, THEN A TRIAL, AND FINALLY ADOPT IT INTO THE HOSPITAL SYSTEM.

BUT NONE OF THESE HAPPEN UNTIL IT IS DISCUSSED AT THE BOARD MEETINGS FOR THOSE PRACTICING LAW.

A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF A LARGE SCALE SYSTEMATIC CHANGE IS SEEN WHEN ROE EVA WAS OVERTURNED.

IT ALL STARTS WITH SMALL GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO ARE OPEN TO DISCUSSING WHAT CHANGE WOULD LOOK LIKE AND BRING IT TO A VOTE.

SO PLEASE PUT THE CEASEFIRE RESOLUTION ON THE AGENDA AND OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION, VOTING FOR IT.

WHETHER WHATEVER YOU BELIEVE OR NOT IS FINE, BUT IF IT'S NOT EVEN ON THE AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION, I FEEL THAT'S A LOSS THAT WE CAN HOPEFULLY OVERTURN.

OF CHRIS RASPBERRY, ASSISTANT SUPERINTENDENT OF PARKS AND MAINTENANCE? I APOLOGIZE.

IS THAT ALL OUR SPEAKERS? OKAY, WE'LL GO TO ITEM C, REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE SOLID WASTE OPERATIONS AND SOLID WASTE MASTER PLAN.

MR. MAGNER, ONE ITEM.

HOW ABOUT WE GO TO RECOGNITION

[B. RECOGNITION OF CHRIS RASBURY, ASSISTANT SUPERINTENDENT OF PARKS MAINTENANCE]

ITEM B.

I JUST SAW CHRIS'S EYES GO LIKE THIS WHEN YOU THOUGHT HE WAS SITTING THROUGH THE SOLID WASTE MASTERPLAN, UH, MAYOR COUNCIL, YOU HAVE BEEN SO GRACIOUS ALL YEAR, UM, TO ALLOW ME TO BRING, UM, SOME OF, UH, OUR STAFF BEFORE YOU SOMETIMES COLLECTIVELY AS A DEPARTMENT IN CELEBRATION OF A RECOGNITION MONTH AND SOMETIMES LIKE TONIGHT INDIVIDUALLY.

UM, THIS IS A, A REALLY SPECIAL, UM, UH, REALLY SPECIAL HONOR TO RECOGNIZE TO CLOSE OUT THE YEAR.

UH, AS, UH, YVONNE'S GONNA SHARE WITH YOU, CHRIS HAS BEEN RECOGNIZED BY THEIR PROFESSIONAL ASSOCIATION, UM, WITH A, UH, STATEWIDE AWARD AND, AND, AND IS THE FIRST PERSON IN THE CITY'S UH, PARKS, DEPARTMENT OF HISTORY TO DO THAT.

SO IT'S A REALLY BIG DEAL.

AND CHRIS, UH, WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE YOU JOIN US TONIGHT AND TO BE ABLE TO CELEBRATE YOUR ACCOMPLISHMENT.

YVONNE, THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU'VE DONE TO GET THIS ON THE BRIEFING, AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU.

MS. DAWN SAID IT IS AN HONOR AND PRIVILEGE TO BE ABLE TO BE HERE AND RECOGNIZE CHRIS.

CHRIS IS A, A CORNERSTONE, A A ROCK TO OUR DEPARTMENT.

SO WE'RE EXCITED THAT HE WAS CHOSEN FOR THIS AWARD.

UM, AND AS DAWN SAID, HE IS THE FIRST PERSON TO BE RECOGNIZED IN THIS CATEGORY.

SO TEXAS RECREATION AND PARK SOCIETY FOR CITY, 75,000 ABOVE.

UM, IN OUR NORTH REGION, EVERYBODY SUBMITS NAMES, NOMINATIONS, AND CHRIS WAS THE ONE THAT THEY SELECTED.

SO IT'S A HUGE HONOR.

IT'S A HUGE PRIVILEGE FOR OUR CITY TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SOMEBODY LIKE CHRIS WORK FOR US AND BE PART OF OUR TEAM.

SO THE PARKS PROFESSIONAL OF THE YEAR IS RECOGNIZING SOMEBODY WITH OUTSTANDING SERVICE AND COMMITMENT.

AND CHRIS, WHO'S BEEN WITH OUR CITY SINCE 2001, HAS GROWN THROUGH OUR, OUR DEPARTMENT, BEEN PROMOTED THROUGH NUMEROUS POSITIONS.

SO HE IS AN EXTREMELY WELL-ROUNDED INDIVIDUAL.

AND WHEN HE WAS PROMOTED INTO THE ASSISTANT SUPERINTENDENT POSITION IN AUGUST OF 22, HE CAME INTO IT WITH THE WEALTH AND KNOWLEDGE ABOUT OUR, OUR DEPARTMENT AND OUR DIVISION FOR THE PARK MAINTENANCE.

BUT HE CAME INTO A VERY UNIQUE SITUATION TO WHERE HE STARTED AND FOUR MONTHS INTO HIS POSITION, HIS COUNTERPART WHO HAD BEEN THERE, A TENURED EMPLOYEE, ACTUALLY HAD TO GO OUT ON MEDICAL LEAVE FOR FOUR MONTHS.

SO CHRIS, AS A NEW SUPERINTENDENT, WAS RUNNING THE ENTIRE DIVISION.

SO THAT WAS 48 PEOPLE REPORTING DIRECTLY TO HIM IN A NEW ROLE.

UM, SO KNOWING THAT AND JUST THE EXPERIENCE THAT HE HAD IN HIS LEADERSHIP AND GUIDANCE, HE WAS ABLE TO PULL US THROUGH THAT, THAT ROUGH PERIOD AND HANDLE IT WITH GRACE AND EASE.

AND SO WE WERE HONORED AND EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO SUBMIT HIS NAME FOR THIS RECOGNITION AND THEN FOR IT TO ACTUALLY COME THROUGH, UM, JUST MADE IT EVEN THAT MUCH BETTER.

SO TONIGHT, BEING ABLE TO BE HERE, PRESENT WITH CHRIS AND WITH THE REST OF THE TEAM TO HONOR HIM FOR YOU, JUST BRINGS JOY TO ALL OF US.

YOU GOT THIS HONOR, UH, TO LIFT YOU AND YOUR FAMILY UP.

GREAT, MAYOR.

I'LL, I'LL JUST MENTION, UH, CHRIS ALSO TODAY AT THE, UH, ROTARY, UH, UM, MEETING WAS HONORED AS THE CITY'S SUPERVISOR OF THE YEAR AS WELL.

SO CONGRATULATIONS.

I ABOUT A LITTLE CLAP.

YEAH, MAYOR, ONCE YOU AND THE COUNCIL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE ANY REMARKS YOU'D LIKE, WE'D LIKE TO MAYBE GET A PICTURE WITH CHRIS BEFORE, UM, WE WRAP UP.

ALRIGHT, COUNSEL, ANY COMMENTS, PLEASE, MS. JUSTICE? THANK YOU.

UH, CHRIS, I JUST WANNA SAY CONGRATULATIONS, WELL DESERVED.

YOU'VE HAD A ROUGH YEAR, UM, AND I JUST, I'M SO GLAD

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IT'S AMAZING.

SO, UH, THANK YOU FOR ALL THE GREAT WORK THAT YOU DO FOR OUR CITY.

WE REALLY, REALLY DO APPRECIATE IT.

MR. CORCORAN.

UH, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

YEAH, CHRIS, IT'S ALWAYS REALLY, UM, IT'S INTERESTING WHEN WE GET INSIGHT ON COUNCIL INTO SOMETHING, UH, STUFF THAT, THAT HAPPENS BELOW THE DIRECTOR LEVEL AND THE HARD WORK THAT OUR PEOPLE DO.

AND, UM, GOSH, IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, WE CAN WORK AS HARD AS WE CAN UP HERE, BUT NOTHING IN THE CITY WOULD RUN WITHOUT SOME PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO STEP UP TO THE PLATE AND TAKE ON THAT WORK.

SO, THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. HUTCHEN RUNNER.

THANK YOU, MAYOR CHRIS, CONGRATULATIONS.

I, I KNOW YOU KNOW THIS, BUT I THINK IT'S INCREDIBLY, UH, UH, TRULY AN HONOR.

BUT WHAT MAKES IT EVEN MORE OF AN HONOR IS, IS THAT IT'S YOUR SOCIETY THAT RECOGNIZED YOU.

SO IT'S YOUR PEERS THAT RECOGNIZED YOU FOR THIS AWARD.

WE CAN SAY CONGRATULATIONS ALL NIGHT LONG, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'VE NEVER WALKED IN YOUR, IN YOUR FOOTSTEPS AND SEEN WHAT YOU DO, BUT YOUR, YOUR PEERS HAVE AND THEY AWARDED YOU THIS, THIS, AND SO TO ME, THAT MAKES IT EVEN MORE SPECIAL.

I KNOW YOU, YOU KNOW THAT.

UM, SO CONGRATULATIONS AND ENJOY.

THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO, MR. SAMUEL.

CONGRATULATIONS MR. DORIAN.

WELL, OF GOOD THING HAS BEEN SAID, AND I COULD PROBABLY CONTINUE A LOT MORE, BUT IN SHORT, I JUST WANTED TO SAY YOU THAT CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU, UH, FOR WHAT YOU DO, AND, UH, KEEPING OUR, YOU KNOW, LIKE IT'S NOT JUST YOU.

I KNOW THAT MANY OTHER OF OUR CITY STAFF, THEY'RE DOING SO MUCH GOOD WORK, BUT, UH, IT'S GOOD TO SEE SOMEONE GETTING RECOGNITION.

UH, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, CHRIS.

CONGRATULATIONS.

IT'S JUST NICE TO KNOW THAT WE HAVE ANOTHER MEMBER THAT'S BEEN HERE FOR A MINIMUM OF 23 YEARS, .

AND IF YOU KNOW ME, MOST OF THE PEOPLE I'VE KNOWN, I'VE KNOWN THEM THAT LONG.

SO, UM, I THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO.

IT'S A GREAT HONOR, AND, UM, I'M GLAD TO BE SERVING WITH YOU.

THANK YOU, CHRIS.

WE WILL NOW OFFICIALLY GO TO ITEM C REVIEW AND DISCUSS SOLID WASTE OPERATIONS AND SOLID WASTE MASTER PLAN, MR. MAGNER.

I'LL ADD ONE THING TO THAT, AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU AND YOUR EFFORTS REPRESENTING RICHARDSON IS HUGE, AND YOU'RE DOING IT IN THE RICHARDSON WAY, OBVIOUSLY.

AND WE REALLY, TRULY APPRECIATE YOUR COMMITMENT, YOUR HARD WORK, AND YOUR DEDICATION, AND TRYING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE FOR THE PEOPLE IN RICHARDSON, TEXAS.

SO, THANK YOU.

SO NOW, IF NOTHING ELSE SAID, LET'S HAVE A PICTURE.

ALRIGHT, SOUND A LITTLE ODD.

EVERYBODY TAKE UP JUST A VERY, ALRIGHT.

AND WE'RE LOOKING RIGHT HERE.

[C. REVIEW AND DISCUSS SOLID WASTE OPERATIONS AND SOLID WASTE MASTER PLAN]

UH, ERIC ROBESON, OUR DIRECTOR OF, UH, PUBLIC SERVICES, AND JOSE FIGUEROA, OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, IS JOINED BY, UH, SCOTT PASTOR WHO BURNS AND MCDONALD.

MAYOR AND COUNSEL.

UH, UH, UM, THREE OF THE NEXT, UH, ITEMS ON, UH, TONIGHT'S AGENDA ARE ALL TACTICS THAT, UH, YOU HEARD US PROPOSE TO YOU BACK IN NOVEMBER.

THE FIRST, A REALLY IMPORTANT, UM, KICK BRIEFING TONIGHT TO KICK OFF, UH, THE SOLID WASTE OPERATIONS AND MASTER PLAN STUDY.

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UH, ERIC AND AND SCOTT ARE GONNA PARTNER ON THE BRIEFING.

OUR OUR GOAL TONIGHT IS, UH, LIKE WE'VE DONE WITH, UH, PAST, UH, UH, UH, PARS MASTER PLAN, THE A TP, THE COMP PLAN IS TO REALLY CALIBRATE WITH YOU TONIGHT, LET YOU KNOW THE DIRECTION THAT WE'RE HEADED, UH, WITH THE SOLID WASTE MASTER PLAN, TAKE ANY IMPORTANT FEEDBACK THAT WE CAN INCORPORATE HERE, UH, VERY EARLY INTO THE PRO INTO THE PROCESS.

UM, BUT VERY EXCITED TO BE, UH, GETTING THIS UNDERWAY.

UH, SCOTT AND HIS TEAM, WHO I THINK HE'LL INTRODUCE, UH, HAD A VERY PRODUCTIVE DAY ALREADY TODAY, UH, MEETING WITH OUR FRONTLINE, UH, EMPLOYEES AND, AND STARTING TO UNDERSTAND, UH, THEIR PERSPECTIVES AND TAKE THEIR, UH, FEEDBACK AND INSIGHTS.

AND SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED.

IT'S, UH, IT'S BEEN A NUMBER OF YEARS SINCE WE'VE DONE THIS.

UH, IT'S BEEN ABOUT A DECADE OR SO SINCE WE'VE UPDATED THE SOLID WASTE MASTER PLAN.

AND SO IT'S GONNA BE AN IMPORTANT PROCESS WE GO THROUGH.

ERIC, UH, THANKS, UH, TO YOU AND YOUR TEAM FOR, FOR GETTING US HERE TONIGHT.

I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU AND SCOTT FOR FURTHER BRIEFING.

THANK YOU, MR. MAGNER, CITY COUNCIL.

APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TONIGHT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT OUR SOLID WASTE OPERATIONS.

KINDA GIVE YOU A REVIEW.

AND THEN, UM, SCOTT'S GONNA COME UP AND GO OVER THE MASTER PLAN.

DAWN SAYS, UM, AGAIN, THIS IS THE STRATEGIC GOAL IN THE CITY COUNCIL TACTIC THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING HERE TONIGHT WITH THIS, WITH THIS BRIEFING.

UH, I REALLY WANNA GO OVER THE PURPOSE OF THE MASTER PLAN.

UM, AND THEN JUST AS KIND OF A REFRESHER WORK TO, TO REMIND KIND OF THE CURRENT SOLID WASTE SERVICE LEVELS THAT WE HAVE, AND THEN THE PARTNERSHIPS THAT WE ALSO HAVE, UH, IN OUR CURRENT SOLID WASTE OPERATIONS.

SO THE PURPOSE OF THE PLAN IS REALLY TO HAVE SOMEBODY COME IN, LOOK AT THE NUMBER AND SIZE OF ALL OF OUR EXISTING ROUTES, OUR STAFFING LEVELS, OUR DRIVE TIME TO DISPOSAL FACILITIES.

HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE US TO GO TO THE TRANSFER STATION, TO THE RECYCLING CENTER, THE COMPOST FACILITY, AND REALLY EVALUATE THOSE, THE DRIVE TIMES FROM OUR OPERATIONS.

UM, ALL OF OUR CURRENT LEVELS OF SERVICE THAT WE CURRENTLY PROVIDE ON ALL OF OUR RESIDENTIAL RECYCLING AND, AND, UH, BABBITT COLLECTIONS, UM, ANALYZE THE COST OF OUR SERVICES.

UM, THE COST OF LABOR AND EQUIPMENT HAVE CERTAINLY CHANGED OVER THE LAST, LAST TIME WE'VE DONE ONE OF THESE STUDIES.

SO I REALLY LOOK AT THAT AND, AND OUR RATES AND FEE STRUCTURES ON OUR COMMERCIAL RESIDENTIAL SIDE.

UH, IF THERE ARE ANY, UH, LONG TERM OR SHORT TERM THINGS THAT WE COULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IN OUR OPERATIONS AND ULTIMATELY RECOMMEND, YOU KNOW, OPTIONS TO EITHER IMPROVE EFFICIENCIES OR ALTERNATIVE SOLUTIONS JUST BASED ON SOME STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT.

YOU KNOW, REALLY GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IS THE CITY OF RICHARDSON'S GOALS RELATED TO SOLID WASTE SERVICES.

UM, AND, YOU KNOW, HOW CAN WE EVALUATE JUST INDUSTRY TRENDS AND JUST REGIONAL INITIATIVES THAT WE CAN POSSIBLY INCORPORATE INTO OUR OPERATIONS.

UM, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE A FI A LONG TERM, SHORT TERM, UM, AND MIDTERM PLAN TO GIVE US DIRECTION ON WHERE WE'RE GONNA HEAD OVER THE NEXT FIVE 10, YOU KNOW, EVEN 20 YEARS AS FAR AS SOLID WASTE SERVICES GOES.

UM, AND AS JOHN SAID, IT'S BEEN ABOUT 10 YEARS SINCE WE LAST DID A MASTER PLAN.

AND WITH ALL THE NEW DEVELOPMENT REDEVELOPMENT, ALL THE THINGS GOING ON IN RICHARDSON, UM, THE CHANGES IN EQUIPMENT, IT JUST REALLY MAKES IT AN OPPORTUNE TIME TO REALLY TAKE A LOOK AT OUR SERVICES AND, UM, YOU KNOW, PUT A PLAN TOGETHER HOW WE'RE GONNA MOVE FORWARD, OUR CURRENT SOLID WASTE LEVELS.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE DO OUR RESIDENTIAL, UH, TWICE A WEEK REAR LOAD BAG COLLECTION.

UH, WE HAVE NO LIMITS ON OUR, ON OUR BAGS.

UM, AND ON A NORMAL OPERATIONAL DAY THAT, THAT'S EQUIPPED WITH 15 REAR LOAD TRUCKS AND 45 STAFF MEMBERS.

TO JUST GIVE YOU SOME PERSPECTIVE ON THE RESIDENTIAL COLLECTION SIDE, UH, OUR BRUSH AND BULKY ITEM COLLECTION, WHICH IS OUR BABBITT COLLECTION, WHICH IS OUR, YOU KNOW, OUR BRUSH AND OUR, OUR LARGE, LARGE ITEMS. UH, WE DO THAT ONCE A WEEK AS LET'S BY SCHEDULE APPOINTMENT.

AS LONG AS THE RESIDENT CALLS, YOU KNOW, BY MIDNIGHT THE DAY BEFORE THEIR COLLECTION, THEY'LL BE ON THE LIST FOR COLLECTION THE NEXT DAY FOR THEIR BABBIT COLLECTION.

UH, WE HAVE, UH, SEVEN KNUCKLE BOOM TRUCKS AND THREE REAR LOAD TRUCKS WITH 16 STAFF MEMBERS THAT PROVIDE THIS OPERATION.

UM, BUT THIS IS ALSO ANOTHER UNLIMITED VOLUME, AS LONG AS IT'S AN ACCEPTABLE MATERIAL, IT'S AN UNLIMITED AMOUNT OF VOLUME THAT YOU CAN SET OUT FOR COLLECTION.

UH, THEN OUR RECYCLING, WE HAVE, UH, ONCE A WEEK REAR LOAD BAG COLLECTION RECYCLING.

THIS IS OUR BLUE BAG PROGRAM.

UH, THERE'S NO LIMIT ON THE AMOUNT OF BLUE BAGS THAT YOU CAN PLACE OUT FOR COLLECTION.

AND WE REAR, WE RUN FOUR REAR LOAD TRUCKS HERE, AND THIS IS ABOUT 12 STAFF MEMBERS TO RUN OUR RECYCLING OPERATIONS.

UM, AND THEN WE HAVE OUR COMMERCIAL SIDE, WHICH IS OUR FRONT LOAD AND, UH, ROLL OFF SERVICES FOR ALL OUR COMMERCIAL COMP CUSTOMERS.

UH, WE RUN ABOUT SIX FRONT LOAD TRUCKS, FOUR ROLL OFF TRUCKS, AND ONE CONTAINER TRUCK.

THAT'S THE ONE THAT MIGHT SWAP OUT LIKE A FAULTY EIGHT YARD OR, YOU KNOW, ADD ONE FOR SERVICE, TAKE ONE AWAY.

UH, SO THAT'S ALL OPERATING EVERY DAY WITH ABOUT 11 STAFF MEMBERS TO RUN OUR COMMERCIAL OPERATIONS.

THAT JUST KINDA GIVES YOU A SNAPSHOT OF ALL OF OUR, OUR DIFFERENT SERVICES AND, AND, AND LEVELS OF STAFFING THAT'S CURRENTLY RUNNING.

AND THEN SOME KEY PARTNERSHIPS.

UH, JUST LIKE ON THE WATER SIDE, WE'RE, WE'RE A MEMBER CITY OF THE NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT SOLID SYSTEM.

UM, WE'RE ONE OF FIVE MEMBER CITIES IN THAT SYSTEM, SO IT'S US, UH, ALAN FRISCO, MCKINNEY, AND PLANO.

UM, AND, AND THAT CONTRACT DICTATES THAT WE TAKE ALL OF OUR REFUGE TO A NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT FACILITY.

UH, AND THERE'S ALSO THE CITY OF PLANO, UH, WITH AN AGREEMENT FROM NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT.

AND THE MEMBER CITIES

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ACTUALLY RUNS A COMPOST GREEN WASTE FACILITY AT CUSTER AND, UH, RIDGEVIEW UP IN PLANO.

UM, THEY'RE BRANDED AS TEXAS PURE.

SO WE TAKE ALL THE BRUSH AND, UH, EVEN FROM THE PARKS AND CURBSIDE COLLECTION, AND WE TAKE IT UP THERE FOR COMPOSTING.

UM, THEN THEY MAKE PRODUCT OUT.

THEY CAN MAKE BEDDING MIX, THEY'LL MAKE MULCH, UM, AND THEN THEY HAVE IT FOR RESALE.

UM, THEY SELL IT TO DISCOUNTED RATES FOR MEMBER CITY RESIDENTS, UH, REPUBLIC SERVICES, THEY'RE THE ONES THAT DOES ALL RECYCLING SERVICES.

THEY'RE A MUR, THEY PROCESS ALL OF OUR RECYCLING.

SO ALL THE BLUE BAG PROGRAM, ALL THE BLUE BAGS THAT WE COLLECT, WE COLLECT WITH RELOAD TRUCKS AND WE HAUL IT TO THEIR, UH, RECYCLING FACILITY AND PLANO, AND THEY DO ALL OF OUR RECYCLING PROCESSING.

UM, SO WE PARTNER WITH REPUBLIC SERVICES FOR OUR RECYCLING.

UM, AND THEN DALLAS COUNTY HOME CHEMICAL COLLECTION CENTER.

UM, THAT'S WHERE ANY RICHARDSON RESIDENT HAS THE ABILITY TO TAKE WITH A DRIVER'S LICENSE.

ANY, UM, HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE THAT THEY NEED TO DISPOSE OF, UM, THEY CAN TAKE IT THERE, UH, FOR DROP OFF.

SO BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO SCOTT, IS THERE ANY, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT I WENT OVER TO COLLECTION LEVELS OR PARTNERSHIPS? COUNSEL? ANY QUESTIONS? ERIC? THANK YOU.

GREAT PRESENTATION.

I HAVE ONE QUESTION.

YOU, YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU WERE ASSESSING THE TIME AND HOW, YOU KNOW, HOW LONG IT TAKES TO RUN YOUR ROUTES AND SO FORTH, SO ON.

DO WE HAVE, UM, INSTRUMENTS THAT TRACK EACH TRUCK, WE KNOW WHERE THEY ARE AND HOW LONG IT GOES FROM POINT A, POINT B, THOSE TYPE THINGS? IS THAT THE TYPE OF INFORMATION THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO ASSIST? YES.

ALL THE, ALL THE TRUCKS ARE EQUIPPED WITH A GPS TRACKING DEVICE.

SO WE KNOW WHERE IT'S AT, WHEN IT'S AT, HOW LONG IT WAS THERE.

UM, THEY'LL ALSO UTILIZE, AND SCOTT MAY GO INTO THIS, BUT THEY'LL UTILIZE DUMP TICKETS, LIKE WHEN YOU ENTER THE WEIGHT SCALE AND WHEN YOU GOT THERE AND VERSUS THE TIME YOU LEFT, RIGHT? THAT'S KIND OF THE WINDOW TIME.

HOW LONG DID IT TAKE YOU TO GET TO THE DISPOSAL FACILITY? AND THEN HOW MUCH TIME DID YOU SPEND AT THE FACILITY? RIGHT.

IS THAT NEGATIVELY IMPACTING YOUR OPERATIONS? IS THAT SOMETHING YOU MIGHT WANNA LOOK AT CHANGING? SO, SO BY TIME AND WINDOW TIME OR DRIVE TIME, THAT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THERE.

AWESOME.

THANK YOU, CURTIS.

I, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT I, AT THE, AS FAR AS THE BULK TRASH PICKUP AND, AND, UH, THE RECYCLING PROGRAM IS, IS PHENOMENAL.

I, I, MY QUESTION IS, IS HOW DO YOU DO IT WITH 12 STAFF MEMBERS FOR THE RECYCLING? IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S SO MUCH MORE WORK TO, UM, TO PICK UP.

YEAH, BASICALLY RECYCLING, THERE'S, THERE'S SIMILAR ROUTES TO THE TRASH ROUTES, BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE A HUNDRED PERCENT PARTICIPATION, RIGHT? SO EVERYBODY'S GONNA HAVE TRASH THAT'S SET OUT, SO WE NEED MORE PEOPLE TO HANDLE THAT LOAD THAT'S GONNA BE OUT THERE.

UM, I'M NOT SURE WHAT OUR TOTAL PARTICIPATION RATE IS NOW, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, I KNOW IT'S NOT 50% PARTICIPATION RATE, SO YOU CAN IMAGINE WE'RE ONLY COLLECTING HALF THE HOUSES, SO IT'S ALMOST HALF THE STAFF, IF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE.

WELL, THANK YOU.

IT'S, IT'S, UH, VERY RESPECTED.

THE CITIES ARE THAT WE'VE WORKED FOR, UH, SINCE I CAME TO, TO BURNS AND MAC ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO.

THANK YOU, ERIC.

ALRIGHT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO SCOTT.

THANK YOU ERIC, AND GOOD EVENING MAYOR.

UH, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS SCOTT ACK AND I LEAD OUR SOLID WASTE AND RESOURCE RECOVERY CONSULTING PRACTICE FOR BURNS MCDONALD HERE IN TEXAS.

AND, AND MAYOR, PER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT US GETTING INTO ALL OF THE DETAILS OF WHAT WE CALL THE, THE TIME AND MOTION EVALUATIONS OF A, OF A SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING OPERATION, I'M VERY PLEASED THAT ERIC WEISS AND, AND PHILIP KRAMER OF OUR TEAM ARE, ARE HERE TONIGHT.

AND THEY'VE, THEY'VE SPENT A FAIR AMOUNT OF TIME ALREADY, UM, OUT IN THE FIELD OBSERVING, UH, THE OPERATIONS HERE IN, IN THE CITY OF RICHARDSON ARE GONNA AND ARE GONNA SPEND A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF HOURS, UH, DOING A LOT OF NUMBER OF CRUNCHING SO THAT WE CAN COME BACK AND PROVIDE YOU ALL AS WELL AS CITY STAFF WITH A REALLY GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF, UH, THE CURRENT OPERATIONS AS WELL AS, UH, WHAT FUTURE CHANGES, UH, COULD POTENTIALLY, UH, ENCOMPASS.

UM, SO IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH, WITH BURNS AND MCDONALD, WE ARE A CONSULTING FIRM THAT, THAT PROVIDES SERVICES ACROSS A WIDE RANGE OF, OF BUSINESSES AND, AND INDUSTRIES.

UH, WE'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS, UH, FOR THIS MARKED OUR HUNDRED 25TH YEAR IN, IN BUSINESS WE WERE FOUNDED IN, IN 1898.

AND WE PROVIDE A, A FULL SUITE OF, OF PLANNING, CONTRACTING, FINANCIAL, OPERATIONAL AND ENGINEERING CONSULTING SERVICES.

BUT AS I STAND HERE BEFORE YOU ALL TONIGHT, I, I THINK WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT IS THAT OUR MISSION IS TO, TO MAKE OUR CLIENTS SUCCESSFUL.

SO THAT IS DEFINITELY OUR INTENT, UH, WITH THE CITY OF RICHARDSON, UH, WE DID ESTABLISH OUR, OUR SOLID WASTE AND RESOURCE RECOVERY CONSULTING PRACTICE IN, IN 1970.

UM, I'VE BEEN IN THE, THE SOLID WASTE CONSULTING BUSINESS, UH, FOR GOING ON 24 YEARS NOW, AND DO A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF WORK HERE IN THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS REGION.

UH, THIS MAP GIVES YOU A, A LITTLE BIT OF A SENSE OF WHO A NUMBER OF

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UH, SO THAT REPRESENTS ABOUT 40% OF THE POPULATION IN THIS REGION, UH, BASED ON, ON THESE CITIES.

AND I THINK WHAT, WHAT'S ALSO REALLY RELEVANT AND IMPORTANT FOR THE CITY OF RICHARDSON IS THAT WE DID RECENTLY COMPLETE A COMPOSTING STUDY, UH, FOR THE NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT, AS WELL AS THE REGIONAL SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT PLAN FOR THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS.

SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO, UH, NOW IS, IS TO BRIEFLY WALK YOU THROUGH OUR PROPOSED, OUR APPROACH, UH, FOR COMPLETING THE SOLID WASTE MASTER PLAN FOR THE CITY, THE SCHEDULE FOR DOING THAT WORK, AS WELL AS OUR, OUR STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT.

UH, I WILL EMPHASIZE THAT WE ARE VERY MUCH ON THE BEGINNING STAGES OF DOING THIS WORK.

UH, SO WE WANTED TO PRESENT TO YOU ALL RELATIVELY EARLY IN THE, IN THE PROCESS, AND WE WILL BE PRESENTING TO CITY COUNCIL, UH, TWO MORE TIMES AFTER TONIGHT.

SO WE'LL BE HAPPY TO, UH, HEAR ANY ADDITIONAL INPUT, UM, AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

BUT TO PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT MUCH OF THE ANALYSIS, UH, THAT I'LL BE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT IS, IS VERY MUCH IN FRONT OF US.

SO THIS, THIS SLIDE GIVES YOU A, A GRAPHICAL REPRESENTATION OF, OF THE WORK THAT WE WILL BE DOING.

AND SO IF YOU LOOK AT THIS SLIDE, UH, FROM FROM LEFT TO RIGHT, UH, THIS GIVES YOU A SENSE OF HOW WE'LL BE APPROACHING THE WORK.

AND SO WE'LL START WITH ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, UH, KIND OF ON THE, THE BOTTOM, UH, PART OF EACH OF THESE BARS, UH, AN EVALUATION OF YOUR EXISTING SYSTEM.

AND SO, WHERE WE MENTIONED A MOMENT AGO IN TERMS OF EVALUATING THE, THE TIME AND MOTION ASPECTS TO DETERMINE OUR, OUR OPINIONS ABOUT HOW MANY ROUTES DO YOU NEED, HOW MANY TRUCKS ARE REQUIRED, THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE, UH, HOW MUCH MATERIAL ARE YOU COLLECTING COMPARED TO OTHER CITIES.

UH, PRETTY MUCH ALL OF THOSE TYPES OF QUESTIONS.

UH, WE WILL BE EVALUATING FOR BOTH YOUR RESIDENTIAL AND AND COMMERCIAL OPERATIONS.

WE WILL ALSO BE EVALUATING, UH, MANY OF THE PARTNERSHIPS THAT ERIC JUST MENTIONED, UH, FROM A RECYCLING, PROCESSING, DISPOSAL AND, AND COMPOSTING PERSPECTIVE, AS WELL AS EVALUATING YOUR, YOUR HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE PROGRAM.

AND THEN FROM THERE ON THE, ON THE NEXT, UH, BLOCK, THAT'LL BE THE POINT IN THE PLANNING PROCESS WHEN WE WORK WITH STAFF.

AND THEN WE WILL COMMUNICATE TO CITY COUNCIL WHAT THE, UH, PLANS, UH, OBJECTIVES AND, AND GOALS WILL BE.

WE THINK THAT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO DO THAT AT THAT POINT IN THE PLANNING PROCESS, AFTER WE HAVE A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE KEY CHALLENGES AND OPPORTUNITIES ARE THAT ARE FACING THE, THE CITY.

WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT THE CITIES IN THE PROCESS OF DEVELOPING A, A CITYWIDE PLANNING INITIATIVE.

AND SO THIS WILL ALLOW US TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS SOLID WASTE MASTER PLAN IS DEVELOPED IN A WAY THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THAT BROADER CITYWIDE, UH, PLANNING EFFORT.

AND SO FROM THERE, WE WILL, UH, IDENTIFY, UH, ALTERNATIVES, EVALUATE OPTIONS, AND THEN START TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE FUTURE FUNDING STRATEGIES WILL BE AS A PART OF THIS, THIS PLANNING EFFORT.

UM, AND THIS, THIS PLAN DOES INCLUDE A, A VERY IN DEPTH COST OF SERVICE, UM, ANALYSIS FROM WHICH WE'LL BE ABLE TO EVALUATE THE COST OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT WILL BE EVALUATED.

AND SO FROM THERE, UH, WE WILL, UH, IDENTIFY THE, THE PREFERRED STRATEGIES AND, AND OPTIONS, UH, CONDUCTING WORKSHOPS, UH, WITH THE CITY.

AND THEN ULTIMATELY WE'LL DEVELOP A SOLID, SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT STRATEGY THAT WILL INCLUDE A A 20 YEAR IMPLEMENTATION AND FUNDING PLAN.

I'LL ALSO MENTION THAT WE HAVE THIS, UH, ORANGE ARROW ACROSS THE BOTTOM OF THE SLIDE.

UH, AND SO THERE WILL BE EXTENSIVE, UH, CITY AND STAKEHOLDER, UH, ENGAGEMENT IN PUBLIC OUTREACH, UH, THROUGHOUT THE PLANNING PROCESS.

AND THE NEXT TWO SLIDES WILL, UH, GIVE YOU, UH, SOME BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF, OF WHAT THAT WILL INCLUDE.

SO THIS IS THE, THE SCHEDULE, UH, FOR THE PROJECT.

SO WE, WE KICKED OFF THE WORK IN OCTOBER, UH, JUST A, A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO.

UM, AND IN THE TIME SINCE THEN WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN DOING, UH, THE EVALUATION OF THE EXISTING SYSTEM.

UH, SO THAT HAS INCLUDED, UH, EXTENSIVE FIELD WORK, UH, AS WAS MENTIONED A FEW MINUTES AGO, UH, MEETING WITH FRONTLINE STAFF TODAY, UH, BUT ALSO A LOT OF NUMBER CRUNCHING POLICY EVALUATIONS, UM, OF NOT JUST YOUR OPERATIONS, BUT ALSO THE FINANCIAL ANALYSIS OF, OF YOUR COST OF SERVICE.

BUT WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO, UM, IS TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO THAT LIGHT BLUE BAR, UH, THAT'S ACROSS THE TOP OF THE PAGE.

'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT, UH, COMMUNICATES THE STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT EFFORTS THAT WILL BE HAPPENING THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF, OF THE PROJECT.

AND SO, UH, TONIGHT, UH, HERE IN DECEMBER, MARKS OUR, OUR COUNCIL

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PRESENTATION.

UH, BUT YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE ARE TWO OTHER COUNCIL PRESENTATIONS AS WE GET FURTHER ALONG IN, IN THE PLANNING PROCESS.

WE'RE ALSO IN, IN THE PROCESS OF CONDUCTING INTERVIEWS WITH OTHER KEY STAKEHOLDERS.

UM, AND THEN WE ARE ALSO LOOKING, UH, FORWARD TO, IN, IN THE SPRING TIME TO CONDUCTING, UH, ONE-ON-ONE MEETINGS WITH, WITH EACH OF YOU ALL.

AND SO WE'D LIKE TO DO THAT IN, IN ROUGHLY THE, THE MARCH TIMEFRAME AND ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WE'LL BE FORTHCOMING TO, TO SCHEDULE THAT, UH, SO THAT IT'S, UH, CONVENIENT FOR YOU ALL.

WELL, WE WANNA GET A LITTLE BIT FURTHER ALONG IN, IN OUR WORK SO THAT WE'LL BE MORE INFORMED TO BE ABLE TO SAY, HEY, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE SEEING.

AND THEN TO START TO ASK YOU ALL SOME KEY QUESTIONS, UH, SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF THE DIRECTION THAT THE CITY WOULD, WOULD LIKE TO TAKE.

UH, WE WILL ALSO BE CONDUCTING A CUSTOMER SURVEY.

AND SO BASED ON THAT INITIAL EVALUATION, AS WELL AS FEEDBACK FROM NOT ONLY STAFF, BUT ALSO COUNSEL TO REALLY SHAPE WHAT ARE THE TYPES OF QUESTIONS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE INCLUDED AS PART OF THAT SURVEYING EFFORT.

AND THEN WE HAVE STRUCTURED, UH, THE REMAINING COUNCIL MEETINGS TO OCCUR, UH, ONCE WE GET FURTHER ALONG IN TERMS OF ESTABLISHING THE, THE, THE GOALS AND THE OBJECTIVES FOR THE PLAN, EVALUATING THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND STRATEGIES.

AND THAT'S WHAT'S ON THE, THE BOTTOM PART OF THIS SCHEDULE.

SO THAT'LL REALLY START IN THE, KIND OF THE MIDDLE PART OF THIS YEAR.

UH, BUT THE WHOLE IDEA IS TO HAVE A PROCESS BY WHICH WE'RE ABLE TO TALK WITH YOU ALL AT KEY POINTS, UH, THROUGHOUT THE, THE PLANNING PROCESS.

UM, THERE'S ALSO, GOING BACK TO THE BLUE BAR, UM, AT THE TOP WE ARE GOING TO HAVE AN, AN OPEN HOUSE WITH THE PUBLIC.

SO THAT'LL HAPPEN, UH, SOMETIME, UH, AS, AS SOON AS JUNE.

UH, BUT WE'LL COORDINATE WITH CITY STAFF.

IT MAY BE A LITTLE BIT LATER ON IN, IN THE PROCESS.

UM, 'CAUSE WE WANT TO HAVE THAT OPEN HOUSE WHEN WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD UNDER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE KEY ISSUES ARE THAT ARE BEING ASKED, BUT NOT SO FAR OUT IN THE PROCESS THAT ANY DECISIONS HAVE BEEN MADE.

UH, BEFORE I GO ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT'S HERE ON THE SCHEDULE, UH, OR THE APPROACH? SO THEN THE, THE LAST THING I, I WANTED TO MENTION IS, UH, JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL FROM A STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT PERSPECTIVE.

UH, SO WE'LL, WE WILL BE, UH, CONDUCTING THAT CUSTOMER SURVEY.

AGAIN, WE WANNA DO THAT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER IN THE PLANNING PROCESS SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THE QUESTIONS THAT WE'RE ASKING ARE REALLY REPRESENTATIVE OF THE KEY OPPORTUNITIES AND CHALLENGES HERE IN THE CITY OF RICHARDSON.

UH, WE ARE UNDERTAKING, UH, THOSE STAKEHOLDER INTERVIEWS, UH, WHICH WILL AGAIN INCLUDE, UH, DISCUSSIONS WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THEN LATER ON IN THE PROCESS CONDUCTING THE OPEN HOUSE.

UH, THIS IS A, A GOOD EXAMPLE OF WHEN WE'VE CONDUCTED AN OPEN HOUSE IN, IN THE PAST TO WHERE IT'S, IT'S REALLY AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY TO, TO COME AND GO.

AND WE WILL SET UP, UH, DIFFERENT STATIONS AROUND A ROOM, UH, TO BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT SOME OF THE, THE KEY ISSUES ARE DURING THE PLANNING PROCESS.

UM, AND THEN, UH, THIS DOES MARK THE, THE FIRST OF SEVERAL MEETINGS AND, AND PRE PRESENTATIONS, UH, WITH THE CITY COUNCIL.

UH, SO WITH THAT, BE, BE AGAIN, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY, ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE FOR ME.

THANK YOU MR. CORCORAN.

UH, THANK YOU GUYS BOTH FOR YOUR, YOUR PRESENTATIONS.

I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS.

THE FIRST ONE IS, UH, I'VE, IN PREPARATION FOR OUR OWN CITY COUNCIL INTERVIEWS AND THE THINGS THAT WE'D LIKE TO BRING UP, UM, I THINK AT THE VERY BEGINNING YOU MENTIONED, UM, TIME AND MOTION AS, AS A FOCUS.

IS THAT WHAT YOUR FIRM PRIMARILY DOES? IS THAT WHAT WE NEED TO BE THINKING OF? OR DO WE REALLY, IS IT ANYTHING SOLID WASTE RELATED THAT YES, THE INTERVIEW'S GONNA COVER? IT'S REALLY ANYTHING SOLID WASTE RELATED.

WE JUST HAVE BEEN, UH, REALLY FOCUSED TO THIS POINT IN TERMS OF THE EVALUATION OF THAT EXISTING SYSTEM.

BUT I, I THINK YOU MAKE A A REALLY GOOD POINT TO WHERE IT'S, IT'S NOT ONLY GETTING INTO THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL IN THE WEEDS, IF YOU WILL, BUT ALSO, UH, THIS IS GOING TO BE A PLAN, UH, TO BE, UH, IN USE FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS.

SO TO BE THINKING ABOUT THINGS FROM A, A LONGER TERM PERSPECTIVE IS ALSO VERY IMPORTANT.

GREAT.

AND THEN MY SECOND QUESTION, UH, ERIC, IS, UH, YOU KNOW, I SEE IT SAYS IN THIS, THIS PINK BAR ON THE, THE TIMELINE SLIDE, IT SAYS WASTE GENERATION FORECAST AND FACILITY CAPACITY ANALYSIS.

IS THAT NOT SOMETHING THAT WE ALREADY DO ON AN ANNUAL OR SEMI-ANNUAL BASIS? I THINK WE, WE HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE DISTRICT STATES IS THEIR LANDFILL CAPACITY.

UM, BUT IN TERMS OF EVALUATING IT, UM, MORE IN DEPTH, MAYBE YOU CAN DESCRIBE IT FROM AN OPERATIONS, WE KIND OF GET THOSE REPORTS FROM THE DISTRICT FROM A

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LANDFILL PERSPECTIVE.

NORTH, NORTH TEXAS DOES A, A REALLY EXCELLENT JOB OF PROVIDING AN, AN EVALUATING DATA ON BEHALF OF THE FIVE MEMBER CITIES.

UM, AND WE'VE WORKED WITH NORTH TEXAS ON NOT ONLY THE, THE COMPOSTING PROJECT, BUT PLANS FOR SOME OF THE OTHER COMMUNITIES WITHIN THE DISTRICT.

SO WE'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THEIR DATA.

UH, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA TAKE THAT DATA AND THEN CUSTOMIZE IT TO DEVELOP PROJECTIONS THAT ARE SPECIFIC TO THE CITY OF RICHARDSON SO THAT YOU CAN GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT ARE THE QUANTITIES OF MATERIALS AND HOW ARE THEY BEING MANAGED, NOT ONLY FROM WHAT'S GOING TO THE LANDFILL AT, AT NORTH TEXAS, BUT ALSO RECYCLING AS AND, AND COMPOSTING TYPE MATERIALS.

AND THEN ANOTHER KEY PART OF THAT, UH, EVALUATION FROM A CAPACITY PERSPECTIVE IS GOING TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW FAR OUT INTO THE FUTURE.

AND I, I CAN ASSURE YOU WITH NORTH TEXAS, UH, THEY DO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF LANDFILL CAPACITY, BUT WE ALSO WANNA LOOK AT, UH, SOME OTHER CHALLENGING ISSUES SUCH AS, UH, FROM A COMPOSTING PERSPECTIVE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A SERVICE THAT, AS ERIC DESCRIBED, CITY OF PLANO AND PLANO PURE HAVE, HAVE BEEN PROVIDING.

BUT WE WANNA EVALUATE WHAT'S THE LONG TERM VIABILITY OF, OF THAT, AS WELL AS, UH, THE HOME CHEMICAL COLLECTION OR, UM, HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE SERVICES AND THEN RECYCLING AS WELL.

UH, NO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

UH, COUPLE QUESTIONS MIGHT NOT, I DON'T KNOW IF, UH, MAYBE JUST TO UNDERSTAND MYSELF A BIT MORE, I SEE THAT, UH, YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE PROJECT APPROACH, IT SHOWS THAT IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU ARE LOOKING AT UNDERSTANDING THE SITUATION AND THEN CAPACITY ANALYSIS AND THEN HOW TO MANAGE OR IMPROVE IT BETTER.

DO YOU SEE ANYTHING LIKE OUT OF THE BOX IN ORDER RECOMMENDATION? LIKE, YOU KNOW, UH, IF YOU GO THIS WAY, THIS APPROACH, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST TRYING TO SEE HOW I'M GONNA EXPLAIN THIS.

THIS WILL, THIS IS BASICALLY WILL IMPROVE THE EXISTING SITUATION MM-HMM.

USING THE EXISTING METHOD AND JUST SYSTEM THAT WHATEVER, WE HAVE THE SYSTEM JUST FOLLOWING THAT AND FINE TUNE THIS SYSTEM.

BUT THIS IS LIKE, IF WE DON'T SEE ANYTHING LIKE IN OUT OF THE BOX RECOMMENDATION, MAYBE IN THE FUTURE THAT MIGHT THINK ABOUT SOMETHING DIFFERENT WAY, UH, DIFFERENT TECHNOLOGY, DIFFERENT METHOD, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT BEEN TAUGHT? I MEAN, RIGHT.

SO THERE, THERE WILL BE A PART OF THE PLAN THAT WILL IDENTIFY, UH, KEY TRENDS THAT WE'RE SEEING IN, IN THE SOLID WASTE INDUSTRY.

AND SO WE WANT TO, WE'LL WANNA SHARE THAT WITH CITY STAFF AS, AS WELL AS THE COUNCIL SO THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF WHAT, WHAT SOME OF THOSE, THOSE KEY TRENDS ARE.

UM, AND SOMETIMES THOSE TRENDS MAY INVOLVE OUT OF THE BOX THINKING.

AND SO I THINK IT'S JUST IMPORTANT FOR US TO BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE FOR SOME OF THOSE KEY TRENDS, UM, HOW APPLICABLE THEY MAY BE OR, OR IN OTHER CASES MAY BE, UH, NOT, MAY NOT BE ALL THAT APPLICABLE FOR THE CITY OF RICHARDSON.

UH, SO THAT'LL ALL BE A PART OF THE, UH, PLANNING PROCESS THAT WE WILL BE EVALUATING.

AND THEN WE'LL ALSO, WE'LL WORK WITH THE CITY TO, UH, NOT ONLY EVALUATE YOUR, YOUR EXISTING SYSTEM, UH, ACROSS EACH OF THE DIFFERENT OPERATIONS, AND THEN TO LOOK AT WHAT SOME DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVES WE'LL BE.

AND THEN BASED ON THE FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVE, NOT ONLY FROM CITY STAFF, BUT THE CUSTOMER SURVEY AND THEN CITY COUNCIL WILL THEN SHAPE THE FUTURE DIRECTION OF WHAT ALTERNATIVES WILL BE FURTHER CONSIDERED.

UH, UH, MAYOR PRO TEM, I, I WANNA REASSURE THAT COUNSEL, WE WE'RE NOT PUTTING ANY LIMITATIONS ON WHAT CAN BE CONSIDERED OR WHAT CAN BE DISCUSSED AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

I THINK AS WE'VE LOOKED BACK EACH OF THE PAST TWO YEARS AND WE'VE SEEN THE PRESSURES, UM, FROM A COST PERSPECTIVE ON THE CURRENT WAY THAT WE OPERATE, UM, THIS WOULD BE A, A BIG LOST OPPORTUNITY IF WE DIDN'T THINK OUT OF THE BOX.

NOW WE MAY END UP WITH THE SAME SYSTEM MOVING FORWARD, BUT WE'LL AT LEAST UNDERSTAND WHAT IT'S GONNA COST TO OPERATE THAT SYSTEM.

AND I REALLY THINK IT'S A, IT'S, IT'S THE PERFECT OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE WITH THE COMMUNITY.

UM, IF WE, IF WE STAY THE SAME, THIS IS WHAT IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE FROM A COST PERSPECTIVE MOVING FORWARD.

AND THEN IF THAT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE, THEN THERE ARE OPTIONS.

AND THESE OPTIONS REALLY NEED TO RUN THE FULL GAMUT OF WHAT IS, UH, WHAT APPROACHES ARE BEING USED IN, IN SOLID WASTE SERVICES TODAY.

SO I I, WE AREN'T, WE AREN'T ASKING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT REALLY HAVING A GOALPOST TODAY AND STAY BETWEEN THE, BETWEEN THE TWO POSTS.

WE REALLY WANT TO LOOK, UM, FAR AND, AND WIDE IN, IN TERMS OF WHAT WE SHOULD BE CONSIDERING AT LEAST THINKING THROUGH.

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NO, THAT'S GREAT.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT, UH, YEAH, THAT MAKES SENSE, UH, BECAUSE I SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK THE SYSTEM AND RECOMMENDATION AS USUAL, IT'S GONNA BE THE SAME.

UH, BUT FOR LONG TERM, LIKE 20 YEARS, UH, I THINK I STRONGLY BELIEVE THINGS WILL CHANGE AND, UH, I'M SURE THAT THAT'S GONNA BE BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAVE TODAY.

UH, BUT UH, YEAH, IF WE KEEP THAT EYE OPEN AND PLAN ACCORDINGLY, I THINK WE CAN ADOPT THE BETTER SYSTEM QUICK.

AND BECAUSE OTHERWISE THE COST, LIKE YOU SAID, THAT IS, UH, IS NOT REALLY SUSTAINABLE LONG TERM.

UH, AND, UH, FINDING THE EMPLOYEE TO DO THE DO THE JOB TRADITIONAL WAY IS DIFFICULT.

I THINK THAT ANSWER MY QUESTION, MS. JUSTICE.

UH, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UM, FIRST I JUST WANNA MAKE COMMENT, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR FOCUSING ON, UH, PUBLIC OUTREACH AND COMMENT.

IT'S, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT, APART FROM WATER AND WASTEWATER, THIS IS PROBABLY THE SERVICE THAT IMPACTS EVERY RESIDENT IN THE CITY.

AND ERIC, AGAIN, WE SAY IT A LOT, BUT YOUR DEPARTMENT REALLY IMPACTS ALL THE RESIDENTS IN OUR CITY, AND YOU DO AN AMAZING JOB OVER THERE.

SO THANK YOU FOR, FOR REACHING OUT.

WE DO GET A LOT OF QUICKLY EXCITED QUESTIONS ABOUT WHY DON'T WE HAVE BINS AND, YOU KNOW, OUR RECYCLING SERVICE AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.

SO IT'S, IT'S IMPORTANT WORK THAT YOU ALL ARE DOING.

AND THEN, UM, TO FOLLOW UP ON, UM, AKINS QUESTION ABOUT 20 YEARS, IF WE DID THIS ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO, DO WE THINK 20 YEARS IS TOO LONG? MM-HMM, , FORGIVE MY IGNORANCE, BUT I, I DON'T KNOW HOW QUICKLY THE INDUSTRY CHANGE CHANGES, BUT I ASSUME IF THERE IS CHANGE, IT'LL HAPPEN A LOT FASTER THAN 20 YEARS.

SO, RIGHT.

IS THAT TOO LONG? UM, ARE WE JUST LOOKING OUT 20 YEARS OR DO WE INTEND TO DO THIS AGAIN IN 10 YEARS WITH ANOTHER 20 YEAR LOOK LOOKOUT? RIGHT.

NO, THAT'S A GREAT, GREAT QUESTION AND THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

SO WE, IT IS A, A 20 YEAR PLAN, AND, AND ERIC DID BRIEFLY INCLUDE THIS AS A PART OF HIS PRESENTATION IN THAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS WILL BE SEGMENTED OUT INTO THREE, UH, MAIN TIME PERIODS.

AND SO THOSE WOULD BE, UH, ZERO TO FIVE YEARS, THEN SIX TO 10, AND THEN 10 TO 20.

SO I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT FROM A, A LONG-TERM PLANNING PERSPECTIVE TO BE LOOKING OUT 20 YEARS.

UM, AND I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW THAT, UH, NORTH TEXAS HAS MORE THAN 20 YEARS OF, OF LANDFILL CAPACITY, WHICH IS GREAT.

UH, BUT WE DO HAVE SEVERAL CLIENTS THAT ARE LESS THAN THAT 20, 20 YEARS OF CAPACITY.

AND SO IN THOSE PLANS, LOOKING AT FIGURING OUT WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO FOR YOUR, YOUR NEXT LANDFILL NEED IS, IS GONNA BE REALLY IMPORTANT.

UH, SO THAT'S WHY LOOKING AT THINGS FROM A A LONGER TERM PERSPECTIVE IS, IS VERY CRITICAL PART OF THE PLANNING PROCESS.

BUT TO YOUR POINT, UH, WE WILL DEFINITELY PROVIDE NOT ONLY RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT MUCH MORE DETAILED RECOMMENDATIONS IN TERMS OF IMPLEMENTATION STEPS OF, OF WHATEVER IS RECOMMENDED, UH, FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

THAT, THAT'S REALLY HELPFUL.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF ERIC OR DON OR IF THE, IS THE IDEA THAT, AGAIN, IN 10 YEARS WE'LL COME BACK TO THIS.

I, I HEAR YOU.

IT'S KIND OF LIKE OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHERE WE'RE LOOKING OUT, YOU KNOW, MM-HMM, MANY, MANY YEARS INTO THE FUTURE FOR PLANNING PURPOSES.

BUT IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WILL BE PART OF THE REGULAR ROTATION EVERY 10 YEARS OR SO? IT WILL BE, I, ON, I I ACTUALLY LOOK AT IT A LITTLE BIT MORE LIKE THE PARKS MASTER PLAN WHERE YOU WOULD DO A KIND OF A FIVE YEAR REFRESH.

IT MIGHT NOT BE A FULL-BLOWN STUDY.

UM, BUT THE WAY WE'RE GROWING IN NORTH TEXAS, A LOT OF THESE, I MEAN, A LOT OF THE PROJECTIONS ARE JUST THAT AT THE MOMENT, I DON'T THINK 10 YEARS AGO, MAYBE EVEN FIVE YEARS AGO, WE WOULD'VE ANTICIPATED THE KIND OF, UM, GROWTH THAT WE'RE SEEING NOW.

AND SO I THINK, UM, AND, AND ONE OF, ONE OF THE INTERESTING THINGS ABOUT THE WAY WE'RE APPROACHING THIS WITH THE COMP PLAN, UM, ON A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT FRONTS IS IT'S KIND OF SETTING A RHYTHM NOW WHERE WE COULD DO A FIVE-YEAR REFRESH, AND THEN AS WE GO THROUGH THE COMP PLAN, UH, PRO UPDATE PROCESS, EVERY DECADE OR SO, WE COULD DO A FULL-BLOWN, UM, MASTER PLAN, UM, KIND OF UPDATE AGAIN.

AND SO, UH, I, I, I WOULD, I WOULD THINK WE WOULD TAKE A LOOK IN ABOUT FIVE YEARS, UH, AND THEN AGAIN, ABOUT 10 YEARS WHEN WE'RE, WHEN WE'RE UPDATING THE COMP PLAN AGAIN.

YEAH, I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.

UM, YOU KNOW, AS I, AS I SAID, THIS IMPACTS EVERY SINGLE ONE OF OUR RESIDENTS IN RICHARDSON.

SO IT'S AN, AN IMPORTANT SERVICE AND AN IMPORTANT STUDY.

THANK YOU, MR. HUTCH, WRITER.

UM, FIRST OFF, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY, LOOKING AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PRESENTATION, WHAT Y'ALL ACCOMPLISHED WITH WHAT YOU HAVE IS AMAZING AND OUTSTANDING.

AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU AGAIN.

UM, 'CAUSE I THINK I STILL THINK WE HAVE ABSOLUTELY THE, THE, THE BEST SERVICE HAVING LIVED IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT CITIES, I THINK THE SERVICE LEVELS THAT WE HAVE FOR OUR RESIDENTS IS OUTSTANDING.

SO I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU AGAIN.

UM, TO THAT END, THE ONE, ONE THING THAT I DON'T SEE, AND MAYBE IT'S BURIED IN HERE, IS HOW GRANULAR WILL YOU GET IN THE EVALUATION? BECAUSE IT WAS MENTIONED, I THINK MAYBE IT WAS, UH, COUNCILWOMAN JUSTICE THAT SAID IT.

YOU KNOW, I, I GET QUESTIONS ABOUT, WELL, SHOULD WE STILL, SHOULD WE STICK WITH BAGS? SHOULD WE GO TO BINS? UM, YOU KNOW, WE, I I GET A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT

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RECYCLING.

UM, YOU KNOW, HOW DOES IT WORK, WHERE DOES IT GO, WHAT HAPPENS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.

SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, IS CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW UL GRANULAR YOU WILL GET IN THE OVERALL, UM, I GUESS I'LL SAY THAT UNDER YOUR DEVELOPED STRATEGIES AND OPTIONS.

AND THEN THE SECOND THING IS, IS WILL YOU ALSO COMPARE US TO LIKE SIZED CITIES, UM, AS FAR AS SERVICE LEVEL, UM, OFFERINGS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA? 'CAUSE I, I GET THAT QUESTION A FAIR AMOUNT TOO, AS FAR AS, WELL, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED AND WHATEVER, WE ARE APPROXIMATELY NOW 130,000, UH, POPULATION.

AND, AND SO, SO WILL THERE BE A, A, A MATRIX, I GUESS I WOULD SAY SHOWING? 'CAUSE WE OFTEN, WE OFTEN COMPARE OURSELVES TO OTHER CITIES OUR SIZE, BOTH LOCALLY AND THEN EVEN STATEWIDE.

I DON'T KNOW IF PROBABLY NATIONAL DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE, BUT AT LEAST MAYBE LOCALLY, REGIONALLY AND, AND STATEWIDE, SO RIGHT.

CURIOUS ABOUT THAT? YEAH.

SO TO, TO ANSWER THE SECOND PART OF YOUR QUESTION FIRST, SO BENCHMARKING WILL DEFINITELY BE A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF THE PLANNING PROCESS AND, AND WHAT WE WILL COMMUNICATE.

SO THAT'LL BE A COMBINATION OF FINANCIAL BENCHMARKING IN TERMS OF HOW DOES YOUR PRICING HERE COMPARE FOR BOTH RESIDENTIAL AS WELL AS COMMERCIAL SERVICES TO OTHER CITIES, UH, AS WELL AS FROM AN OPERATIONAL PERSPECTIVE.

UM, IN TERMS OF THE, THE QUANTITIES OF MATERIALS THAT ARE SET OUT FOR EACH OF THE DIFFERENT SERVICES, UH, HOW DO THOSE COMPARE TO, TO OTHER CITIES AS WELL? I THINK ALSO FROM A A FINANCIAL PERSPECTIVE, I THINK IT'LL BE, THIS'LL BE A KEY PART OF WHAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO HELP YOU ALL TO UNDERSTAND IS, YOU KNOW, FOR EACH OF THE MAIN SERVICES THAT ARE PROVIDED RESIDENTIALLY, WHAT IS THE COST PER HOUSEHOLD, PER MONTH FOR THOSE SERVICES? AND THEN HOW DOES THAT COMPARE TO, TO OTHER CITIES, UH, FOR THE SERVICES THAT THAT, THAT THEY ARE PROVIDING.

AND THEN TO START TO KIND OF PEEL BACK THAT ONION TO COMMUNICATE WHAT ARE SOME OF THE REASONS WHY THOSE COSTS MAY BE DIFFERENT.

UH, AND THEN AS FAR AS THE FIRST PART OF YOUR QUESTION, IN TERMS OF THE LEVEL OF DETAIL THAT WE WILL GET INTO, UH, I WOULD DESCRIBE THIS AS A, UH, VERY OPERATIONALLY FOCUSED SOLID WASTE MASTER PLAN.

AND SO WE WILL DEFINITELY BE DIVING INTO, UH, A LOT OF THOSE DETAILS.

UM, SO IF WE KIND OF KEY IN ON, ON THE DIFFERENT RESIDENTIAL COMPONENTS, WE'LL BE LOOKING AT, UH, HOW MANY ROUTES DO YOU, UH, CURRENTLY HAVE AND WHAT'S OUR OPINION IN TERMS OF HOW MANY ROUTES YOU SHOULD BE SENDING OUT EACH DAY.

UH, HOW MANY TRUCKS DO YOU REALLY NEED FROM BOTH A FRONTLINE AND BACKUP CAPACITY? HOW MANY STAFF DO YOU NEED? UM, HOW MUCH ARE YOU PAYING FOR, YOU KNOW, EVEN THINGS LIKE YOUR, YOUR COST OF MAINTENANCE ON A PER TRUCK BASIS, AND HOW DOES THAT COMPARE TO INDUSTRY AVERAGES? UH, SO WE'LL BE, UM, TURNING OVER A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT STONES IN, IN THAT REGARD.

GREAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OH, YOU'RE WELCOME, MR. DORIA.

I, UH, FIRST OF ALL, THANK Y'ALL FOR THE PRESENTATION, ERIC AND YOU GUYS AS A TEAM, UH, WORK REALLY HARD AND, AND THIS IS AN AREA I THINK EVERYONE APPRECIATES.

UM, WHETHER IT GETS AS MUCH RECOGNITION OR NOT, IT'S REALLY A, A GREAT ASSET FOR THIS CITY.

UM, AND TO A COUPLE OF POINTS, UM, FROM MY OTHER COUNCIL, UM, MEMBERS, UH, LOOKING AT THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX AND FOR SHORT AND LONG TERM IS, DOES YOUR COMPANY EVALUATE OR, OR WILL IT EVALUATE THE FUTURE OF HOW WE'RE DISPOSING OF BATTERIES AND OTHER TYPES OF, UH, EQUIPMENT? MM-HMM.

DUE TO THE FACT THAT WE ARE MOVING, UH, VERY QUICKLY, UH, IN THAT AREA.

AND I WAS, I GET ASKED A LOT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW WE'RE, HOW WE'RE GOING TO BE HANDLING THAT IN THE FUTURE.

I WAS JUST WONDERING IF YOUR COMPANY IS PROVIDING THAT OR, OR WILL PROVIDE IT.

YES.

UM, SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE, THE HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE, SO I, I JUST USE THAT THAT TERM VERY BROADLY, BUT THAT THAT'LL INCLUDE AN EVALUATION OF NOT ONLY HOUSEHOLD CHEMICALS, UH, BUT ALSO MORE HARD TO, TO MANAGE TYPE MATERIALS.

THAT, THAT WOULD ALSO INCLUDE, UH, MATERIALS LIKE BATTERIES.

UM, IS THERE A PLACE, I MEAN, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE, I DON'T, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE DISPOSAL RATE IS AT THE MOMENT, BUT WITH THE, UH, USE OF ELECTRIC VEHICLES AND OTHER RIGHT.

ELECTRIC LAWNMOWER, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE NOW REMOTE.

UM, A LOT OF THINGS ARE COMING ON THE MARKET NOW THAT ARE JUST ALL LITHIUM BATTERY OPERATED.

MM-HMM.

AND A LOT OF PEOPLE, ONCE THEY GO OUT, THEY JUST DISPOSE OF THEM.

OF COURSE.

ION BATTERIES CAN END UP IN THE RECYCLING STREAM AND THEY CAN UNFORTUNATELY BE THE CAUSE OF, OF A NUMBER OF FIRES.

SO I AM JUST SAYING THAT THAT MIGHT IS SOMETHING I THINK THAT NEEDS, UH, WE NEED TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION.

NO, IT'S, IT'S DEFINITELY A REALLY IMPORTANT POINT BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES ACTUALLY THOSE LITHIUM

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SO THERE'S BEEN PROBABLY DOZENS OF RECYCLING FACILITIES ACROSS THE UNITED STATES THAT HAVE, HAVE BURNED DOWN BECAUSE OF, OF LITHIUM ION BATTERIES.

SO IT'S, IT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT ISSUE.

AND SO FOR THIS PLAN TO ADDRESS THE PROPER MANAGEMENT OF THEM WILL DEFINITELY BE A KEY COMPONENT.

I THINK THAT'S WONDERFUL.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

GONNA GO TO ITEM D, REVIEW AND DISCUSS UPDATE ON THE SHORT TERM REMS. MR. MAGNAR.

AND HAPPY HOLIDAYS ALRIGHTYY.

WE'RE

[D. REVIEW AND DISCUSS UPDATE ON SHORT-TERM RENTALS]

THANK YOU, MAYOR DUBBY.

UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

UH, LINDSAY TRUMAN, OUR COMMUNITY SERVICES ADMINISTRATORS, MAKING A RIGHT TO THE PODIUM.

AND SHE'S JOINED TONIGHT BY, UH, FIRST ASSISTANT CHIEF MIKE BUSIER.

UM, I KNOW, UH, CHIEF TITTLE IS LISTENING.

WE WISH HIM THE VERY BEST AS, UH, AND, AND TO GET WELL SOON.

UM, TONIGHT, LINDSAY IS GOING TO, UH, SHARE WITH YOU, UH, AN UPDATE OF THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL REGISTRATION, UM, UH, PROGRAM THAT YOU PUT INTO PLACE APPROXIMATELY ONE YEAR AGO.

AND WHAT WE'D REALLY LIKE TO DO IS OFFER A REFRESH OF, UH, WHAT IT WAS THAT YOU ADOPTED, UM, AND IMPLEMENTED.

AND THEN TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM, HOW THAT IMPLEMENTATION HAS GONE GONE SO FAR.

AND THEN SOME, UH, ACTIVITY THAT BOTH THE CODE AND, UH, RPD SIDE, UH, HAS OBSERVED.

AND THEN, UH, REALLY LIKE TO CONCLUDE BY KIND OF, UH, UH, I THINK RECAP AND WHAT WE BELIEVE, UM, HAS BEEN A REALLY EFFECTIVE, UH, UH, PROGRAM AND TOOLS THAT YOU'VE PROVIDED US.

AND THEN, UH, REALLY ANXIOUS FOR BOTH LINDSAY AND THE CHIEF TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANS OUT WOULD IN THE FIELD.

UM, AND SO LINDSAY, THANKS FOR ALL YOU'VE DONE TO GET THIS, UH, BRIEFING TOGETHER TODAY.

I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU.

OTHER THIRD PARTY SITES, AND IT COULD BE A FIVE BEDROOM HOUSE, AND THEY HAVE AN AIRBNB AND V-R-B-O-V-R-B-O LISTING FOR ONE BEDROOM, AND THEN ANOTHER BEDROOM, AND THEN ANOTHER BEDROOM.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MAYOR COUNCIL ON THE CITY MANAGEMENT TEAM FOR ALLOWING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TONIGHT AND TALK ABOUT SHORT-TERM RENTALS.

JUST A REALLY QUICK REMINDER, UM, THE STRATEGY THAT WAS TIED BACK PREVIOUSLY AND NOW TO, UH, WORK TO MAINTAIN A BALANCE BETWEEN RESPONSIBLE NEIGHBORHOOD INTEGRITY AND THE REGULATORY ENVIRONMENT.

AND WE PROMISED WE WOULD COME BACK TO YOU WITH A ONE YEAR UPDATE TO SAY, THIS IS WHAT'S HAPPENED, THIS IS HOW IT'S BEEN WORKING, THESE ARE THE IMPACTS ON OUR COMMUNITY.

JUST A REMINDER, WE WERE HERE TWICE IN THE SPRING OF 2022 AND ONCE IN THE FALL IN SEPTEMBER WHEN YOU PASSED THE REGULATIONS THAT WERE ADOPTED INTO ORDINANCE ON SEPTEMBER 26TH, 2022.

JUST A QUICK REMINDER OF SOME OF OUR LEGAL THINGS, THE LEGAL CASES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE PAST THAT SET PRECEDENT FOR US TO THINK ABOUT REGULATIONS IN RICHARDSON.

FIRSTLY, A LANDMARK CASE FROM AUSTIN IN 2021, THAT CITIES MAY NOT PROHIBIT OR BAN SHORT-TERM RENTALS OUTRIGHT.

UH, SECONDARILY, CITIES MAY ADOPT REASONABLE REGULATIONS THAT ARE BACKED BY EVIDENCE, SHOWING THAT THE REGULATIONS SERVE TO PROTECT THE HEALTH, SAFETY, AND WELFARE OF RENTERS AND OTHER CITIZENS.

AND THEN LASTLY, THAT CITIES MAY NOT LIMIT SHORT TERM RENTALS TO OWNER OCCUPIED RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.

AND THERE WAS ANOTHER CASE, UH, ANOTHER SUPPORTING CASE OUT OF AUSTIN, UH, TO SUPPORT THAT ASSERTION AS WELL.

SO RECENTLY YOU HAVE OPENED THE NEWS AND YOU SEE THAT THERE ARE THINGS HAPPENING IN THE NORTH TEXAS AREA.

SO BOTH, BOTH OF THESE.

IN, IN THE SUMMER MONTHS OF 2023 IN MAY, THE CITY OF PLANO CITY COUNCIL DECIDED THAT THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE A ONE YEAR PROHIBITION OF, OF NEW SHORTTERM RENTALS, SO THAT THEY COULD ESTABLISH A TASK FORCE, WHICH THEY'VE DONE TO ASSESS SHORTTERM RENTALS WITHIN THEIR COMMUNITY.

AND THEN ON JUNE, ON JUNE 14TH, 2023, DALLAS PASSED AN ORDINANCE THAT OUTRIGHT PROHIBITED SHORTTERM RENTALS IN ALLY ZONED NEIGHBORHOODS.

UH, BUT THEY PLAN TO BEGIN ENFORCING THAT ON DECEMBER 13TH.

BUT ON SEPTEMBER 6TH, DISTRICT COURT JUDGE MONICA PURDY SIGNED A TEMPORARY INJUNCTION ORDER SAYING THAT STR OUR STR OPERATORS WOULD LIKELY PREVAIL IN THEIR, IN THEIR ASSERTIONS THAT THE NEW REGULATIONS ARE IN FACT UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

SHE ALSO STATED THAT STR ACTIVITY IS A VESTED RIGHT, THAT IS AN ELEMENT OF HOME OWNERSHIP.

SHE SET A NON-JURY TRIAL FOR EVERYTHING ON JUNE 3RD, 2023, AND DALLAS HAS MADE A POINT TO SAY THAT IN THE MEANTIME, THEY PLAN TO ENFORCE EXISTENCE NUISANCE RELATING ORDINANCES.

SO OUR CURRENT REGULATIONS THAT YOU PASSED INTO ORDINANCE LAST YEAR, ALL SHORT TERMINALS MUST HOP ONTO OUR WEBSITE AND REGISTER.

THEY HAVE TO PAY A $75 ANNUAL FEE.

THE APPLICATION THAT THEY SUBMIT WHEN THEY IMPLY THEY HAVE TO INCLUDE OWNER INFORMATION, OPERATOR INFORMATION, AGENT INFORMATION.

AND ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS THAT YOU BUILT INTO THE ORDINANCE IS THE EMERGENCY CONTACT INFORMATION.

EVERY SHORT-TERM RENTAL WITHIN RICHARDSON HAS TO HAVE AN EMERGENCY CONTACT THAT LIVES WITHIN AN HOUR OF RICHARDSON.

AND WE CHECK THAT ON THE APPLICATION TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S WITHIN

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THOSE DISTANCES.

ALSO, A DEPICTION OF THE FLOOR PLAN, NOTING ALL OF THE SAFETY EQUIPMENT, A SWORN STATEMENT SAYING THAT THEY'VE READ THE ORDINANCE AND THEY UNDERSTAND THE ORDINANCE AND IT WILL DO EVERYTHING IT SAYS TO DO.

AND THEN THE OTHER REALLY IMPORTANT THING THAT YOU BUILT INTO THE ORDINANCE IS A PROCESS FOR A SHORT-TERM RENTAL REGISTRATION TO BE REVOKED.

SHOULD SOMEONE BECOME A PROBLEM PROPERTY AND VIOLATE THE SAME ORDINANCES OVER AND OVER, OR BECOME IN SOME WAY ANOTHER, A NUISANCE OF THE OR OF THIS ORDINANCE OR ANY APPLICABLE ORDINANCES THAT, THAT WE HAVE THE POWER TO REVOKE THAT REGISTRATION.

AND OF COURSE, JUST TO BUILD IN SAFETY AS WELL, THAT IF WE REVOKE THAT REGISTRATION, THERE IS A PROCESS IN PLACE THAT ANYONE THAT HAS A REVOKED REGISTRATION CAN APPEAL THAT TO THE CITY MANAGER.

SO ALSO WITHIN THE ORDINANCE, YOU CREATED THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE POSTED WITHIN THE ACTUAL PROPERTY ITSELF SO THAT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE STAYING IN AN SDR IN RICHARDSON KNOW THE RULES AND ARE SAFE.

BOTH, BOTH OF THOSE THINGS EQUALLY IS IMPORTANT.

SO THE 24 HOUR CONTACT EMERGENCY INFORMATION HAS TO BE POSTED.

ALL OF THE OWNER AND AGENT INFORMATION HAS TO BE POSTED.

UM, WE HAVE TO HAVE INFORMATION FOR EMERGENCY AND A NON-EMERGENCY CONTACT FOR ALL OF OUR FIRE PD AND MEDICAL SERVICES INSTRUCTIONS FOR OBTAINING INFORMATION DURING SHOULD A NATURAL DISASTER OCCUR.

THE FLOOR PLAN THAT SHOWS YOU HOW TO GET OUT AND WHERE ANY FIRE EQUIPMENT MIGHT BE LOCATED.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, SORT OF A, A BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR GUIDE BECAUSE SOMEONE WHO'S COME TO RICHARDSON TO STAY IN A SHORT-TERM RENTAL IS NOT GONNA BE AWARE OF OUR TRASH DAYS, OUR RECYCLING DAYS, OUR NOISE ORDINANCES, AND SOME OF THE PARKING INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE.

SO WE'VE CREATED THIS ONE PAGER.

IT'S ALSO ON THE WEBSITE, BUT WE ALSO SEND IT WITH EVERY NOTICE THAT WE SEND.

IT'S ESSENTIALLY MANY OF THE THINGS I'VE JUST TALKED ABOUT, OUR EMERGENCY CONTACT INFORMATION AND ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD RELATED INFORMATION, ALL ON ONE EASY TO READ PIECE OF PAPER THAT THEY CAN POST, UM, SO THAT THE PEOPLE THAT STAY THERE CAN BE EASILY INFORMED.

SO, IMPLEMENTATION, AGAIN, YOU PASSED THE ORDINANCE BACK IN SEPTEMBER OF 2022.

AT THAT TIME, THE CITY REACHED OUT TO THIRD PARTY COMPANIES THAT, UH, SOFTWARE COMPANIES TO ASSIST IN IDENTIFYING AND REGULATING SHORT-TERM RENTALS.

WE WORKED WITH OUR IT TEAM AND OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM TO CREATE WWW DOT CORE NET SLASH STR, SO IT'S EASY TO FIND.

AND WE ENTERED INTO A PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH THE COMPANY GOV OSS.

SO GOV OBOS HAD TO GET INFORMATION FROM OUR GIS TEAM AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO BE ABLE TO CREATE, UM, A DATABASE THAT WOULD WORK TO HELP IDENTIFY RICHARDSON'S SPECIFIC SHORT-TERM RENTALS.

AND THEY SENT THE INITIAL NOTICE NOTICES TO THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL RENTALS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED, UM, DURING THOSE SPRING AND SUMMER MONTHS, STAFF SENT THE SECOND NOTICES AND ARE TRACKING THOSE THROUGH IN-HOUSE SOFTWARE AS WELL.

IT JUST MAKES IT EASIER BECAUSE WE CAN CORRELATE IF WE GET A COMPLAINT ABOUT TRASH WITH THE FACT THAT THAT PROPERTY PROPERTY IS A SHORT-TERM RENTAL IN THE SAME DATABASE.

SO WE'RE NOT EVERYBODY'S HAVING TO CROSSCHECK THOSE THINGS.

AND WE BEGAN TO MATCH, UM, IDENTIFY UNMATCHED PROPERTIES.

SO IN THE SUMMER AND FALL MONTHS, WE SENT ADDITIONAL NOTICE TO POTENTIAL STR AND WE MET WITH OUR MIS, OUR MUNI MUNICIPAL COURT JUDGE, UH, THE MUNICIPAL COURT STAFF AND OUR CITY ATTORNEY TO TALK ABOUT THE VERY QUICKLY IMPENDING CITATION PROCESS.

WE WERE APPROACHING WITH SOME OF THESE PROPERTIES.

WE WANTED TO DISCUSS THE PROSECUTION OF THE STR CITATIONS.

WE MOST DEFINITELY WANTED TO ESTABLISH WHAT THE BURDEN OF PROOF WOULD BE FOR THE JUDGE TO CONSIDER THAT A PROPERTY WAS HAD NOT REGISTERED, AND THAT WE HAD PROVED THAT IT WAS IN FACT THAT PROPERTY.

AND WE WANTED TO COLLABORATE TO ENSURE THAT, UH, THAT IT WAS A MANAGEABLE NUMBER OF CITATIONS, UH, FOR THE COURT STAFF AND ALSO FOR MY STAFF, FOR THE COMMUNITY SERVICES STAFF.

SO THE DECISION WAS MADE TO FOCUS ON SINGLE FAMILY SHORT-TERM RENTAL ENFORCEMENT, JUST TO BE ABLE TO MANAGE THAT CASELOAD.

AND AS YOU'LL SEE IN JUST A SECOND, UM, SHORT-TERM RENTALS AT MULTI-FAMILY PROPERTIES ARE JUST MORE COMPLEX, PERIOD.

IT'S MORE COMPLEX TO MATCH WHERE THEY ACTUALLY ARE TO MATCH THAT THE, WHAT THE UNIT NUMBER IS.

WE HAVE NO IDEA TO DETERMINE SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE CAN EASILY TRY TO FIND WAYS TO DO WITH SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND THE FREQUENCY AT WHICH UNITS CHANGE FROM UNIT TO UNIT.

UH, IT IS ACTUALLY A LOT QUICKER THAN WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE.

SO AS WE CONTINUE, WE'RE GONNA REFINE OUR APPROACH WITH THE MUNICIPAL COURT AFTER WE GET THROUGH ALL BELOW OUR SINGLE FAMILY CITATION PROPERTIES TO ENSURE THAT, UM, WE CAN DO JUST AS WELL WITH THE MULTIFAMILY PROPERTIES.

SO I'M GONNA SHOW YOU A SLIDE IN A SECOND THAT HAS NUMBERS ON IT, AND I DON'T WANT YOU TO BE ALARMED, , I DON'T WANT YOU TO BE ALARMED BY THE NUMBERS BECAUSE THE NUMBER OF QUOTE UNQUOTE, NON-COMPLIANT LISTINGS OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN RICHARDSON CHANGES EVERY SINGLE DAY.

AND NON-COMPLIANT LISTINGS CAN BE A LOT OF THINGS.

SO INDIVIDUAL PROPERTIES CAN BE REGISTERED ON AIRBNB AND VRBO AND YOU KNOW, SEVERAL

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SO IF YOU HAVE THREE BEDROOMS LISTED ON THREE SITES, THAT'S SIX LISTINGS RIGHT THERE FOR ONE PROPERTY, ONE PROPERTY.

UM, AND THE OTHER THING THAT WE'VE ENCOUNTERED THAT WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE HAD THOUGHT OF IS THAT SHORT TERM RENTAL COMPANIES ARE GETTING INTO BUSINESS OF HELPING PEOPLE RENT OUT LONG-TERM RENTALS.

SO YOU CAN HOP ON AIRBNB NOW AND FIND SOMEWHERE TO RENT A PROPERTY FOR LONGER THAN 30 DAYS, WHICH IS SOMETHING UNIQUE.

SO THE NEXT SLIDE I'M ABOUT TO SHOW YOU IS A SNAPSHOT IN TIME.

SO ON SATURDAY, THIS SATURDAY, I, I HOP ON TO OUR GOV OSS DASHBOARD, AND IT SAYS THERE ARE 160 LISTINGS FOR SINGLE FAMILY SHORT TERMINALS.

YOU THINK, OH MY GOSH, WHAT? 160 LISTINGS.

OKAY, 160 LISTINGS, WHICH ENDED UP ONLY BEING 68 PROPERTIES.

SO SOME OF THEM HAVE FOUR LISTINGS, FIVE LISTINGS.

THERE ARE SOME ONE SINGLE ADDRESS THAT HAS SIX LISTINGS FOR AS A SINGLE FAMILY, FAMILY PROPERTY.

SO WE HAVE THE 160 LISTINGS, I, IT'S 68 PROPERTIES.

OF THOSE 68 PROPERTIES, 34 OF THOSE PROPERTIES ARE ALREADY REGISTERED WITH THE CITY OF RICHARDSON AS LONG-TERM RENTALS.

A LOT OF, A LOT OF OUR LONG-TERM RENTALS ARE SHOWING UP ON SHORT-TERM RENTAL WEBSITES.

UM, 21 HAVE PENDING ENFORCEMENTS.

11 CITATIONS HAD ALREADY BEEN ISSUED TO THESE QUOTE UNQUOTE NEW LISTINGS, AND TWO OF THEM HAD BEEN REMOVED.

SO IN 2023, SO FAR, WE'VE SENT 156 NOTICES.

WE'VE REGISTERED 71 PROPERTIES.

WE'VE CLEARED EITHER THEY'VE, SOMEONE'S CALLED US AND TOLD US THAT THEY'VE, THEY'RE NO LONGER IN THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL BUSINESS.

AND WE CAN GET ON AND CONFIRM THAT THE LISTINGS HAVE BEEN REMOVED, 56 HAVE BEEN CLEARED.

WE'VE ISSUED 18 CITATIONS TO SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTIES, AND WE HAVE SOME MORE IN THERE THAT ARE WITHIN THE ENFORCEMENT PROCESS, WHETHER IT'S THE FIRST NOTICE, SECOND NOTICE, THIRD NOTICE.

HERE'S THE THING THAT I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT AND, AND VERY INTERESTING.

SO SINCE WE'VE BEEN HERE, SINCE THESE REGULATIONS HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAVE RECEIVED 10 CALLS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT SHORT-TERM RENTALS AT SEVEN DIFFERENT PROPERTIES ON NINE DIFFERENT DATES.

SO THEY RECEIVED TWO CALLS ON ONE DAY ABOUT ONE OF THESE PROPERTIES, 10 CALLS IN A YEAR ABOUT SHORT-TERM RENTALS.

AND THEN A, AS FAR AS MY TEAM AS WELL, WE'VE RECEIVED 20, 28 COMPLAINTS ABOUT SHORT TERM RENTALS.

THE VAST MAJORITY OF THOSE ARE ABOUT TRASH.

SO OF THOSE 28 COMPLAINTS, THERE ARE 19 DIFFERENT PROPERTIES.

SO SOME OF THEM ARE DUPLICATE.

WE'VE ISSUED 21 NOTICES BECAUSE WITH THINGS LIKE TRASH OUT EARLY, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO MONITOR SO THEY STAY, THERE'RE TRASH OUT EARLY.

SO THAT'S WHY THERE ARE MORE NOTICES THAN THERE ARE PROPERTIES BECAUSE IN SOME INSTANCES WE'RE GOING BACK OUT AND CATCHING THOSE VIOLATIONS.

UH, SO 21 NOTICES, AND WE'VE ISSUED THREE TI THREE CITATIONS.

ALL THREE OF THOSE CITATIONS WERE FOR TRASH.

SO THE NEXT STEPS, IT, IT REALLY DOES SEEM THAT THE REGULATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT IN PLACE ARE, ARE DOING WHAT THEY WERE INTENDED TO DO.

WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO MONITOR THOSE AND ENFORCE THE REQUIREMENTS WITH SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTIES.

AND THEN WE'RE GONNA UTILIZE THE LESSONS THAT WE'VE LEARNED IN THIS FIRST YEAR OF ENFORCEMENT AND APPLY A NUANCED APPROACH, UH, WITH THE ENFORCEMENT OF REGULATIONS AT MULTIFAMILY PROPERTIES.

SO, DO YOU GUYS HAVE QUESTIONS, MR. COR? THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR LINDSEY, THANK YOU FOR GETTING ALL THIS TOGETHER FOR US AND REALLY PAINTING A, A SOLID PICTURE, UM, AT LEAST TO ME, OF, OF A FIRST FULL YEAR OF THIS REGULATION.

UM, IT'S VERY HELPFUL.

UH, THE ONLY THING THAT CONFUSED ME WAS THE, UH, ON SLIDE 11 WHEN IT SAYS THE 34 REGISTERED AS REGULAR RENTALS KIND OF ON THAT FUNNEL, UM, IT JUST EXPLAINED TO ME, I MEAN, CAN A PROPERTY BE REGISTERED AS A REGULAR RENTAL AND REGISTERED AS AN AIRBNB WITH THE CITY FOR BOTH USES? ABSOLUTELY.

BUT IN MOST INSTANCES, SOMEONE THAT'S REGISTERED AS A LONG-TERM RENTAL, THAT'S GONNA BE THE PRIMARY USE.

I HAVEN'T, I HAVEN'T RUN INTO ANYONE.

THAT, THAT WOULD NEED TO BE REGISTERED AS BOTH.

BUT IF THEY NEED TO BE, IF IT'S SOMEONE THAT WANTS TO REGISTER, YOU KNOW, AS BOTH IF YOU WANNA RENT FOR 30 DAYS, BUT ALSO IF YOU WANT TO REGISTER AS A SHORT-TERM RENTAL, THEN WE WOULD JUST REGISTER AS A SHORT-TERM TERMINAL.

SO, SO ON THIS FUNNEL DIAGRAM, YOU HAVE FULL CONFIDENCE THAT THOSE 34 REGISTERED AS REGULAR RENTALS ARE BEING USED AS FULL? I CHECKED THEM MYSELF.

FANTASTIC.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YOU'RE WELCOME, MR. BARRIOS.

A, DO YOU HAVE ANY BACKGROUND THERE, LIKE WHAT IT MEANS? CERTAINLY OCCUPIED RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.

UH, LINDSEY, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION.

I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

UM, ON SLIDE THREE, THE THIRD BULLET POINT CITY MAY NOT LIMIT SHORT TERM RENTALS TO OWNER OCCUPIED RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.

I MEAN, I KNOW WHAT THE WORD OWNER MEANS.

I KNOW WHAT OCCUPIED MEANS.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT, WHAT, WHAT'S

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I'M STRUGGLING TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND THAT.

YEAH, SO ACTUALLY THAT HAD BEEN A POINT OF CONTENTION FOR SEVERAL COMMUNITIES.

THE WHOLE IDEA IS THAT THEY ONLY WANTED, THEY ONLY WANTED ME TO BE ABLE TO, TO LIVE IN MY HOUSE AND I CAN RENT OUT A ROOM, BUT I HAVE TO LIVE IN MY HOUSE.

THEY WANTED TO LIMIT SHORT-TERM RENTALS TO BE THAT SORT OF PROPERTY.

OH, OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

UM, MULTIFAMILY, WE, UH, WHEN WE'RE, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MULTIFAMILY, ARE THESE LIKE, HEY, I RENTED AN APARTMENT AND I TRAVEL A LOT, SO I'M SUBLET IT WHILE I TRAVEL.

ARE THESE, I OWN AN APARTMENT COMPLEX WITH 30 APARTMENTS, AND THEN I ONLY HAVE MAYBE 25 LONG-TERM RENTALS.

SO FIVE OF THEM I'M USING AS AIRBNB.

ARE THESE, I OWN A CONDO.

MY MOM OWNS A CONDO AND SHE TRAVELS.

SO WE'RE RENTING IT OUT.

LIKE WHAT, WHAT IS CONSIDERED MULTI-FAMILY WHEN IT COMES TO AIRBNB? WHAT, WHERE ARE WE? IS IT A MIX OF THOSE? WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT? SO A MIX OF ALL OF THOSE EXCEPT NOT CONDOS.

CONDOS WE WOULD HAVE NOT BEEN, WE WOULD DEAL WITH JUST LIKE THEY, THEY HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL OWNER.

EACH CONDO UNIT DOES.

SO THEY'RE CONSIDERED SINGLE FAMILY.

SO WE WOULD HANDLE IT JUST LIKE WE WOULD SINGLE FAMILY.

EXACTLY.

BUT IN THE MULTI, MULTI-UNIT, UH, MULTI-FAMILY UNIVERSE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BOTH OF THOSE THINGS.

SO SOME PROPERTY OWNERS ARE SETTING ASIDE A CERTAIN AMOUNT TO USE AS SHORT-TERM RENTALS.

SOME ARE, SOME CA COULD BE SOMEONE THAT YOU KNOW, IS NOT IN TOWN ALL OF THE TIME.

SOME OF THEM ARE BEDROOMS LISTED.

SOMEONE THAT LIVES IN THERE IS A SINGLE PERSON IN LIVES IN THEIR TWO BEDROOM AND RINSE OUT ONE BEDROOM AS, AS PART OF A SHORT TERM RENTAL.

SO ANY, ANY COMBINATION OF THOSE THINGS.

NOW THE, UM, CAN YOU CONFIRM THE, UH, HOLD ON THE POSTING THE GOOD NEIGHBOR FLYER.

HERE WE GO.

UH, THE GOOD NEIGHBOR FLYER THAT HAS ALL THAT INFORMATION, WHAT IS THE REQUIRED POSTING FOR THIS? IS THIS ON A WALL? IS IT, I KNOW I WAS AT A STATE AT A HOTEL THIS WEEKEND IN THE BACK OF THE HOTEL ROOM, THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, POSTING THAT LEGAL REQUIREMENTS IS ON THE BACK OF A DOOR.

IS IT REQUIRED IN A CERTAIN LOCATION? THE ORDINANCE SAYS IN A CONSPICUOUS PLACE.

AND THEY ALSO, THERE'S A CHECK BOX WHEN THEY FILL OUT THEIR APPLICATION ONLINE AS WELL, STATING THAT THEY POSTED THESE IN A CONSPICUOUS PLACE WHERE ANY, ANYONE THAT STAYS IN THAT SDR CAN EASILY SEE IT.

UM, I WOULD, AND I WASN'T OBVIOUSLY PART OF THE PREVIOUS COUNSEL, UM, PERHAPS SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES CAN SHED SOME LIGHT.

I WAS WONDERING IF MAYBE WE COULD MAKE THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE EXACT AND PUT IT ON THE BACK OF A DOOR OR WITHIN TWO FEET OF THE FRONT DOOR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT SO THAT IT'S IN A PROMINENT PLACE.

BECAUSE I THINK LEAVING IT BEING NON-SPECIFIC MIGHT LEAVE TOO MUCH INTERPRETATION.

I DON'T KNOW.

ARE ARE, ARE YOUR PEOPLE SEEING IT IN DIFFERENT AREAS? I, I, YOU WOULD KNOW MUCH.

THEY HAD, AGAIN, WE BUILT THAT INTO THE APPLICATION FOR THEM TO, TO SAY AND SWEAR THAT THEY'VE POSTED IT BECAUSE WE HAVE NO WAY TO CONFIRM WHERE IT IS POSTED.

SO WE'RE NOT, OKAY.

SO WE'RE NOT DOING LIKE INSPECTIONS NO, SIR.

OF THEM AT ALL TO COME? NOT UNLESS WE GOT A COMPLAINT FROM SOMEONE THAT WANTED US TO COME AND INSPECT THEM, WE ABSOLUTELY WOULD.

UM, WHAT IS, HOW IS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A QUESTION FOR LINDSAY, OR HOW ARE WE COLLECTING REVENUES FROM, UH, ARE WE COLLECTING REVENUES FROM THE, UH, HOTEL TAX FROM THE SHORT TERM RENTALS? WE ARE NOT, WE ARE NOT.

IN THAT CASE, I KNOW.

HOW WOULD WE GO ABOUT MAYBE, PERHAPS LOOKING AT THAT AND AS FAR AS THE NEXT PHASE, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE WORTH DISCUSSING AFTER PREVIOUS DISCUSSION.

SURE.

WE, WE DID, UH, WE DID EVALUATE THAT.

THE COUNCIL DID EVALUATE THAT DURING THE, UM, ADOPTION OF THIS ORDINANCE APPROXIMATELY A YEAR AGO.

AND, UM, THE REVENUE, UM, IS, IS, UH, RELATIVELY SPEAKING, IS, IS PRETTY INCONSEQUENTIAL, UH, COMPARED TO THE, THE, UM, EFFORT THAT WOULD GO INTO TRYING TO, UH, TRACK AND ACTUALLY COLLECT IT.

AND SO IF THE COUNCIL WANTS TO REVISIT THAT, WE CAN, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT.

UM, THE, UH, FEE RIGHT NOW, THE $75 ANNUAL FEE RIGHT NOW IS THE ONLY COST ASSOCIATED WITH OUR REGISTRATION PROGRAM.

NOW LET ME TURN TO KENT HERE JUST FOR A SECOND BECAUSE, UH, KENT, KENT CAN PROBABLY ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THE STATE AND HOW, UM, THE STATE REQUIRES, UH, THE AIRBNB TO REMIT.

CORRECT.

OR BOB.

THEY WOULD HAVE TO, I BELIEVE, PAY THE SAME AMOUNT THAT THEY DO.

SO IT'S, I THINK IT'S 13%.

SO TO GET 7% PERCENT OF THAT STATE GETS 6%.

IT'S JUST NOT A LOCAL EFFORT.

WE'RE ALLOWING THE STATE TO HANDLE IT.

ERIC

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AIRBNB COLLECTS THAT.

AND DO, DOES THE COMPANY WE USE TO IDENTIFY PROPERTIES, DO THEY OFFER THAT AS PART OF THEIR SERVICE? 'CAUSE I DO KNOW, I'VE SEEN THAT SOME OF THE COMPANIES THAT MAYBE COMPETE WITH THEM DO, UH, SO THEY DO HAVE CONTRACTS WITH OTHER COMMUNITIES WHERE THEY DO THAT.

SO PERHAPS I, I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO PERHAPS REVISIT THAT.

UM, I WILL SAY YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB, LINDSEY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UM, AND THANK YOU TO THE COUNCIL PREVIOUS, THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE ON THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL FOR, FOR DEFINITELY TAKING A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

I KNOW, AS Y'ALL KNOW, THIS IS, UH, MY FIRST TERM AND ONE OF THE THINGS I HEARD ABOUT NONSTOP THROUGHOUT THE CAMPAIGN WAS ABOUT SHORT-TERM RENTALS.

UH, THIS WAS PROBABLY NUMBER ONE TOPIC I HEARD ABOUT WHILE RUNNING THIS YEAR.

UM, AND, UH, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT OBVIOUSLY PEOPLE HAVE A STRONG STANCE ABOUT.

I KNOW I HAVE A FAIRLY STRONG STANCE ON IT, BUT I ALSO BELIEVE WE NEED TO BE A FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE.

AND I THINK RIGHT NOW WE'RE, WE'RE ON THE RIGHT COURSE AS FAR AS, UH, WITH ALL THE, THE LAWSUITS AND EVERYTHING ELSE GOING ON OUT THERE UNTIL THERE'S, UM, SOME SETTLING IN THE COURTS AROUND SHORT TERM RENTALS.

I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE TAKING THE RIGHT PATH.

UM, BUT I, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO DEFINITELY SEE US MAYBE, UH, LOOK AT BEING SPECIFIC ON WHERE THIS GOOD NAME FORM IS POSTED.

UH, AND ALSO PERHAPS LOOKING AT, UH, HOW WE CAN ECONOMICALLY, IF WE, WHERE THE COST DOESN'T COME OUT OF THE CITY, DO SOMETHING LIKE CONDUCT, COLLECT THE REVENUE FOR THOSE TAXES, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A MINUTE COMPARED TO THE THINGS I THINK IT SHORT TERM RENTALS, UH, THEY CREATE COMPETITION WITH OUR LOCAL HOTELS.

AND, YOU KNOW, AS WE KNOW, WE, WE USE A LOT OF THAT MONEY FOR GREAT PROGRAMS IN THE ARTS IN OUR CITY.

AND, UH, SO IF WE'RE NOT GETTING IT THROUGH THE HOTELS, 'CAUSE IT'S GOING TO AIRBNBS, I THINK WE NEED TO, IT'S ONLY FAIR THAT WE COLLECTED FROM THEM AS WELL.

SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

GREAT, GREAT PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU, MR. HUTSON.

RIDER.

THANK YOU, LINDSEY.

I THINK THAT GIVEN ALL OF THE UNCERTAINTY, I THINK WHAT WE DID A YEAR AGO MAKES A LOT OF SENSE WHEN WE WERE REVIEWED IT, UM, THE, THE COUNCILMAN BURIALS THAT THE JUICE JUST WAS NOT WORTH THE SQUEEZE.

AND I DON'T, I STILL DON'T THINK IT IS, UH, TO TRY AND, I MEAN, TO TRY AND, AND, AND COLLECT THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT, IT, IT'S OBVIOUS BASED ON THE NUMBERS THAT WE DON'T HAVE THAT MANY IN THE CITY.

SO I, AGAIN, I THINK WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IS THE, IS THE JUICE WORTH THE SQUEEZE? UM, LINDSAY, COULD YOU GO BACK FOR JUST A MOMENT, OR MAYBE IT'S FORD, I'M SURE, MAYBE FORD, WHERE YOU TALK ABOUT THE NUMBER OF, UH, GO ONE MORE.

UM, SO I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO, IF I COULD ASK THE, OUR, OUR, UH, FIRST ASSISTANT IN CHIEF, UM, THE 10 CALLS, SEVEN PROPERTIES, THE NINE DATES.

CAN YOU, COULD YOU ENLIGHTEN US THE 10 CALLS? WHAT WERE THEY, WHAT WERE THEY BASICALLY CATEGORIZED AS? AND, AND, AND WHAT WAS THE OVERALL, UM, UM, COMPLAINT, IF YOU WILL? SO WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A FEEL FOR THAT, BECAUSE I THINK SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, WE HEAR A LOT ABOUT, ABOUT THINGS THAT GO ON HERE, BUT IN ALL HONESTY, OVER A 365 DAY PERIOD, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY IF YOU'RE NEXT DOOR TO IT, ONE CALL IS TOO MANY, BUT I'M, I'M JUST REAL CURIOUS AS TO WHAT, WHAT THE 10 CALLS WERE, WHAT WERE THEY, WHAT WERE THEY CHARACTERIZED AS AND WHAT WAS THE, THE OVERALL RESOLUTION? SURE.

UM, ABSOLUTELY.

UH, FIRST OF ALL, I WOULD CAUTION THE COUNSEL THAT IN ORDER FOR US TO GET THESE NUMBERS, WE HAD TO DO A WORD SEARCH TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT ROUGHLY WHAT OUR NUMBERS WERE.

UH, AND SO WE MAY, UH, THESE ARE THE NUMBERS THAT WE REPORTED OUT BASED ON SOME OF THE WORD SEARCHES THAT WE DID.

HOWEVER, WE MAY HAVE MISSED A FEW.

SO FOR INSTANCE, IF A PERSON CALLING IN MAKING THE COMPLAINT, OR THE PERSON WHO OWNS THE PROPERTY, OR THE PERSON THAT WE MAY CONTACT WITH NEVER MAKES MENTION OF A SHORT-TERM RENTAL, USE THE WORD AIRBNB VERBAL OR WHATEVER, WE MAY NOT CATCH THAT PARTICULAR THING.

SO THIS IS BASICALLY THE NUMBERS THAT WE CAUGHT FOR 2023, UH, WITH OUR WORD SEARCHES, BECAUSE WE DON'T SPECIFICALLY TRACK THE SHORT TERM RENTALS.

SO BASED ON THAT, I WOULD, UH, LARGELY IT WAS MOSTLY, UH, DISTURBANCE TYPE CALLS.

THERE WAS, UH, THERE WAS ONE, UH, UH, CALL FOR INSTANCE WHERE SOMEBODY WAS HAVING A COSTUME PARTY ON ANOTHER ONE, IT WAS A GRADUATION PARTY.

SO YOU CAN PICTURE PEOPLE COMING INTO TOWN THAT MAYBE HAVE A, A COLLEGE GRADUATE THAT IS GRADUATING, UH, LOCALLY, BUT THEY LIVE OUT OF TOWN AND WHERE ARE WE GONNA STAY? SO, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE A, A GRADUATION PARTY AFTERWARDS, UH, THAT TYPE OF THING.

THERE WAS A COUPLE OF, UH, CALLERS THAT, UH, CALLED IN THAT WE TRACKED THIS WAY, THAT WERE ACTUALLY THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY AND THEY WERE CALLING THE POLICE ASKING FOR HELP.

OBVIOUSLY, WE TRY TO ENCOURAGE THAT BEHAVIOR.

WE WANT THEM TO REACH OUT TO US IF

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THEY'RE HAVING AN ISSUE, BECAUSE IF THEY'RE CALLING AND SAYING, I AM HAVING AN ISSUE WITH A PARTICULAR SHORT-TERM, UH, RENTAL TENANT, THAT'S GREAT THAT THEY'RE CALLING US, THEN WE DEAL WITH IT.

AND THAT WAY THE, UH, THE NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR OR SOMEBODY THAT'S BEING IMPACTED IS NOT DEALING WITH US.

SO WE HAD TWO OF THOSE INSTANCES FOR, FOR AS WELL.

SO FOR THE MOST PART, IT WAS A DISTURBANCE TYPE CALL.

UH, FOR THE, FOR THE MOST PART, THERE WAS ANOTHER PARTICULAR CALLER THAT THE, THEY WERE ACTUALLY JUST WORKING ON HOME MAKING SOME IMPROVEMENTS, AND SOMEBODY CALLED AND SAID THEY WERE HAMMERING, BUT THAT, UH, IT WAS, IT WAS NOT REALLY CONSIDERED DISTURBANCE WHEN THE OFFICER CHECKED IT OUT.

SO, UM, NOT REALLY A WIDE GAMUT OF, OF, OF CALLS, BUT MOSTLY DISTURBANCE TYPE CALLS WITH THOSE, WITH THOSE 10.

AND, AND, AND OF THOSE THAT WERE WHERE YOU WERE CALLED, WERE THEY, WERE THEY VALIDATED IN ? UH, IN SOME INSTANCES, IN SOME INSTANCES NOT, UH, THEY WERE, UH, BY THE TIME THE OFFICERS GOT THERE, THE ISSUE WAS OVER THE, THE PEOPLE HAD LEFT THAT KIND OF THING.

SO THEY WEREN'T, THEY WEREN'T ALWAYS VALIDATED AS A, AS AN ISSUE.

AND OBVIOUSLY WITH THE, THE, YOU KNOW, 10 CALLS A YEAR ON A, ON AN AGENCY THAT TAKES OVER 60,000 C INITIATED CALLS A YEAR, THAT'S, IT'S A FAIRLY SMALL BLIP ON OUR RADAR SCREEN OVERALL.

AND THEN JUST KIND OF LASTLY, AND I'LL, I'LL ASK BOTH OF YOU.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE FELT REALLY STRONGLY ABOUT THAT WE PUT INTO THE ORDINANCE WAS THE, HAVING THE, I'LL CALL IT THE EMERGENCY CONTACT ONE HOUR AWAY.

HAVE WE HAD TO, HAVE, WE HAD TO CALL AND GET THAT PERSON TO RESPOND OR, SO I'M JUST CURIOUS IF THAT'S BEEN HELPFUL, OR I SHOULDN'T SAY HELPFUL OR NOT, BUT IF HAVE WE HAD TO UTILIZE IT? I DON'T BELIEVE, AND THE, THE CALLS THAT, UH, WE ANALYZED HERE, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE HAD TO, IN THOSE INSTANCES, WE HAVE NOT HAD TO USE THE 24 HOUR EMERGENCY CONTACT.

REALLY APPRECIATE Y'ALL'S EFFORTS ON THIS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, MS. JUSTICE.

UM, MY QUESTION GOES TO THE LINE OF QUESTIONING FROM COUNCILMAN HUTCHIN RE UM, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMPARISON TO THE PRIOR YEAR TO HOW MANY CALLS WE WERE GETTING FOR SHORT TERM RENTALS? IS THERE A WAY FOR US TO MEASURE THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THE ORDINANCE FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE? YEAH, I ANTICIPATED YOU WERE ACTUALLY GONNA ASK THAT.

SO , I ASKED THEM TO PULL THOSE STATS A LITTLE BIT EARLIER.

UH, FOR 2022.

UH, ONLY TWO OF THE LOCATIONS THAT HAD POPPED UP, UH, IN 2023 WERE ALSO, UH, UH, LOCATIONS IN 2022.

SO WE HAD A TOTAL OF, OF, OF THOSE SEVEN LOCATIONS, WE HAD A TOTAL OF, IT LOOKS LIKE FOUR CALLS, UH, FOR THOSE LOCATIONS.

UM, AND THERE WAS JUST TWO OUT OF THE SEVEN.

SO, UM, NOT A LOT, NOT A LOT OF CALLS, UM, FOR THOSE PARTICULAR LOCATIONS.

UM, BUT YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE, IF YOU LIVE NEXT DOOR, DOOR TO HIM, ONE OR TWO CALLS MAY BE TOO MUCH.

BUT YEAH.

IN GENERAL THOUGH, HOW MANY CALLS RELATED TO SHORT-TERM RENTALS, DO YOU HAVE THAT STAT BY CHANCE FOR 2022 OR I JUST, ALL I HAVE IS THE STATS FOR THOSE PARTICULAR LOCATIONS AT PEARL SLOPE 2023.

YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK, I'D BE CURIOUS TO KNOW, JUST MEASURING THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THIS, OF THE ORDINANCE, YOU KNOW, IN 2022, DID WE GET 600 CALLS FOR SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND NOW IT'S 10, OR, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD TO KNOW.

MM-HMM, , UM, JUST FROM A GENERAL PERSPECTIVE, I THINK THAT THIS IS A GOOD RESULT REGARDLESS OF WHAT 2022 WAS.

UM, YOU KNOW, 10 CALLS IN AN ENTIRE YEAR, AS YOU POINTED OUT FOR 60,000 CALLS IS, UH, PRETTY GOOD.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, WE, WE DISCUSSED THIS ISSUE AT LENGTH, AS SHE POINTED OUT.

THERE WERE THREE DIFFERENT SESSIONS.

THERE WERE, WE SPOKE ABOUT IT, UM, WITH OUR LEGAL COUNSEL AS WELL.

UH, THERE WERE JUST CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE COULDN'T DO.

UM, AND SO I, I DON'T FEEL THE NEED TO LEGISLATE FOR THE PURPOSE OF LEGISLATING.

UH, WE LOOKED AT THIS ISSUE, UM, IT REALLY, REALLY IN DEPTH.

AND IT FEELS, IT'S NICE TO HEAR THAT IT APPEARS TO BE WORKING.

AND SO I, I DON'T FEEL THE NEED TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THIS UNTIL THE DUST IS COMPLETELY SETTLED.

UM, OR WE FEEL AS THOUGH THESE CALLS ARE GOING UP, THESE COMPLAINTS ARE GOING UP.

UM, AS WE DISCUSSED AT THE TIME, WE HAVE TO BALANCE THE PROPERTY OWNERS, RIGHT? WITH, YOU KNOW, BOTH PROPERTY OWNERS RIGHTS, THE FOLKS THAT OWN THE PROPERTY, AND THE PEOPLE THAT LOOK NEXT TO THESE.

SO, UM, IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME, BASED ON THESE STATS THAT, UM, THIS ORDINANCE IS SERVING ITS PURPOSE.

UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS GOOD UNTIL THE DUST SETTLES AND, AND WE REALLY KNOW SORT OF WHAT, WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO AS A CITY COUNCIL WITHOUT WASTING TAXPAYER MONEY ON, UM, YOU KNOW, THE POTENTIAL LAWSUITS.

SO, UM, GOOD.

ANYA, I THINK THIS HAS BEEN A LOT OF WORK.

I KNOW.

UM, AND SO I THINK THAT THIS HAS BEEN, UM, A REALLY GOOD BRIEFING.

IT'S GOOD TO KNOW THAT IT SEEMS TO BE, UH, WORKING MR. CHU.

10, 15, 20, WE DON'T KNOW, UH, BUT STILL LOW NUMBER.

WELL, CAN WE BELIEVE THAT IT'S ALREADY ONE YEAR THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THIS? NOW QUESTION ON THE THREE CITATION, IS THAT SOMETHING, UH, YOU KNOW, TYPE OF CITATION YOU COULD, YOU KNOW, MENTION OR THAT'S SOMETHING THAT ALL THREE OF THOSE CITATIONS ARE TRASH OUT EARLY CITATIONS.

AND I WILL SAY AFTER WE ISSUE A CITATION TO THE PROPERTY OWNER, THEY FIND A WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN.

THAT'S GOOD.

NOW, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CALLS ARE MAYBE

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BUT AGAIN, SAME TIME THE NEIGHBOR LIVES NEXT TO THAT PROPERTY IS TOO MUCH FOR THEM.

UH, BUT NOTHING REALLY MAJOR HAPPENED.

LOOKS LIKE, UH, IS THERE ANY WAY THAT I KNOW THAT IF NOTHING MAJOR HAPPENED, WE DON'T TAKE ANY STEP TO TAKE THE APARTMENT OFF, BUT EVEN IF SMALL THING HAPPEN, WE CAN TRY TO IMPROVE THE CONDITION BETTER.

SO IS, I KNOW I HEARD THAT MAYBE THERE ARE ONE OR TWO PROPERTIES THAT HAVE MULTIPLE CALLS, AND IS THERE SOME TREND THAT THAT CAN BE AVOIDED IN THE FUTURE SO THAT THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN? UH, IS IT CLEAR MY QUESTION OR, YEAH, I THINK WE HAVE TO TAKE EACH CALL AS THEY COME IN AND DETERMINE WHETHER THERE'S A CRIME THAT'S BEING COMMITTED, A DISTURBANCE OR WHAT HAVE YOU.

SO IF WE WERE TO FIND A LOCATION THAT HAD MULTIPLE NUISANCE VIOLATIONS LIKE THAT, OR MULTIPLE CRIMES OCCURRING, UH, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD, WE COULD REACH OUT TO LINDSAY, UH, TO GET CONTACT INFORMATION FROM THE OWNER, THE, OR THE MANAGER OF THAT TO TRY TO, UH, TO ADDRESS THAT TYPE OF ISSUE.

BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT, UM, WE HAVE A LOT OF LOCATIONS WITHIN OUR CITY, UH, THAT ARE NOT SHORT TERM RENTALS, THAT GET FREQUENT CALLS FOR SERVICE WITH THE SAME PEOPLE GOING AND COMING COME TO THAT APARTMENT OR THAT HOME, UH, EVERY NIGHT.

AND SO THAT WOULD HAVE MUCH MORE MULTIPLE, YOU KNOW, CALLS FOR SERVICE THAN, THAN WHAT WE'RE SEEING HERE.

UM, SO WE WOULD, WE WOULD ADDRESS 'EM THE SAME WAY ESSENTIALLY THOUGH.

OKAY, THAT MAKES SENSE.

NOW, ONE QUESTION, LAST QUESTION.

I KNOW THAT YOU SAID THAT NUMBER VARIES EVERY DAY, BUT IF YOU LOOK THAT TREND, IS THERE ANY WAY TO LOOK AT THE TREND? UH, THE NUMBER IS GOING UP OR GOING DOWN? THE NUMBER MOST RECENTLY HAS BEEN GOING DOWN.

OKAY, SHORT TERM LENDER IS GOING DOWN.

UH, YOU KNOW, MY OBSERVATION INTERESTINGLY, I SEE THAT THE HOTEL COSTS ARE NOT REALLY HIGHER THAN THE SHORT RENTAL COST, MOST MANY CASES.

UH, SO UNLESS THERE IS NO TAX, SO THAT REALLY MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE.

BUT IF IT GOES DOWN, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S THE GOOD THINGS.

THANK YOU MR. BARRIOS.

THANK YOU MAYOR LINDSEY.

THE 20 COMPLAINTS, UM, ARE THOSE PEOPLE CALLING IN OR COMPLAINING VIA THE APP OR PUTTING IT? CAN YOU SAY YES.

ON, ON THE APP? VIA THE APP OR ON OUR WEBSITE? YES.

SO IF, YOU KNOW, I'M THINKING I, I DON'T HAVE A SHORT TERM ON MY BLOCK, OR AT LEAST NONE THAT I KNOW OF OR I'M AWARE OF.

UM, BUT IF I, I WOULD IMAGINE, YOU KNOW, IF I'M CALLING THE POLICE, IT'S GONNA BE A SAFETY ISSUE.

IT'S GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST THAT'S MY JUDGMENT CALL, RIGHT? OBVIOUSLY WE WANNA CALL THE POLICE WHEN IT'S A ISSUE OF, OF SAFETY, BUT IF OF A NEIGHBOR'S JUST BEING AN INSTANCE, I MAY NOT NECESSARILY CALL THE POLICE.

UM, WHAT, I GUESS, WHAT HAS BEEN THE COMMUNICATION TO RESIDENTS? LIKE, WHAT'S THE BEST WAY, YOU KNOW, WHEN CONSTITUENTS ASK ME, HEY, WHAT DO WE DO? IT'S NOT AN ISSUE IF THERE'S A FIGHT HAPPENING, THERE'S NOT, YOU KNOW, DRUNK GUYS PASS IT ON THE, IN THE FRONT YARD TYPE SITUATION.

IT'S JUST MORE OF A NOISE, YOU KNOW, UM, OCCASIONAL SLAMMING DOORS AND THAT KIND OF STUFF ON WEEKENDS.

UH, MAYBE SOME KIDS, YOU KNOW, BEING LOUD THAT KIND OF LIKE, IS THE BEST THING TO TELL 'EM TO SUBMIT THINGS VIA THE WEBSITE, OR DO WE WANT IT ALL TO COME TO THE POLICE WHEN IT'S NON SAFETY OR LIFE THREATENING? UM, IS THERE A WAY WE SHOULD COMMUNICATE THAT ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO REPORT? SO EITHER WAY, WHETHER IT BE ABOUT SAFETY OR WHETHER IT BE A NUISANCE, IF THEY DON'T REPORT IT, THEN NOBODY KNOWS ABOUT IT.

PEOPLE TO CALL WHEN IT'S HAPPENING.

AND THEN WE CAN'T ESTABLISH THAT THAT PROPERTY MIGHT ACTUALLY HAVE A PROBLEM.

SO IF IT IS NOISE OR IF THERE'S, IF THERE'S ANY SAFETY QUESTION AT ALL, AUTOMATICALLY JUST CALL, CALL THE POLICE.

DON'T, I MEAN, IT'S, DON'T EVEN QUESTION IT, RIGHT? UH, BUT REPORT, REPORT IT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, BECAUSE THAT'S THE, THE SAFEGUARD THAT YOU GUYS GAVE US IN BEING ABLE TO TAKE AWAY A REGISTRATION.

WE CAN ONLY ESTABLISH IF THEY CONSISTENTLY REPORT IT.

SO THE TRASH CALL OR SAY SOMETHING EVERY TIME THE TRASH IS OUT EARLY OR EVERY TIME THAT THERE'S A PARKING ISSUE.

AND MIKE, I'LL LET YOU, YEAH.

YEAH, I WOULD, I WOULD AGREE.

I MEAN, IF IT'S SOMETHING LIKE A TRASH RELATED THING THAT CAN BE FOLLOWED UP LATER, THAT'S ONE THING.

BUT ANYTHING THAT'S SAFETY RELATED, THAT'S ONGOING AND THAT'S OCCURRING, UH, WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE.

AND OBVIOUSLY, UH, AND ANY KIND OF CRIME THAT MAY BE OCCURRING IN PROGRESS, ESPECIALLY, WE WANT WE TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO REPORT THAT RIGHT AWAY SO THAT IT CAN BE VERIFIED AND SO THAT ACTION CAN BE TAKEN.

UM, NUISANCE THINGS LIKE TRASH OR WHATEVER, THOSE SOMETIMES CAN BE REPORTED AFTER THE FACT.

OR IT COULD BE, UH, A SITUATION WHERE THE FOLKS JUST DIDN'T KNOW WHERE TO, WHEN TO PUT OUT THE TRASH.

THAT'S THE KIND OF THING THAT LINDSAY AND, AND HER CREW CAN DO.

BUT ANYTHING IN PROGRESS, WE REALLY STRONGLY ENCOURAGE

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IT'S SO MUCH MORE DIFFICULT.

UH, AND YOU GET 'EM SOMETIMES TOO.

YOU GET AN EMAIL ABOUT A, A, A LOCATION A WEEK AFTER SOMETHING HAPPENED AND IT'S LIKE, WELL, THE POLICE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT MUCH THEN.

SO ABSOLUTELY ENCOURAGE THEM TO, TO CALL WHEN IT'S HAPPENING SO WE CAN ADDRESS IT.

AND ANYTHING GOING WOULD.

AND I GUESS THE OTHER PART OF THAT, ARE WE GETTING ANY CALLS, THESE 20 COMPLAINTS THEY INCLUDE? LIKE, ARE PEOPLE CALLING 24 HOUR DISPATCH, THE 24 HOUR LINE THE CITY HAS, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S A GOOD PLACE.

I'M, I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK OF, YOU KNOW, HOW TO TRACK DATA AND WHAT'S THE MOST EFFICIENT.

SURE.

ANYTHING THAT IS IN, SO IF YOU CALL 4 1 1 1, THEY INPUT THAT INTO THE RESPONSE CENTER.

IT GOES INTO THE SAME POOL OF COMPLAINTS AS FROM THE APP AND FROM THE WEBSITE.

THEY ALL COME INTO THE SAME, TO THE SAME POOL.

SO YES, IF THEY'RE MAKING A COMPLAINT, COMPLAINT ON THE 24 HOUR THEY'RE CALLING IN, IT'S COMING INTO THE SAME POOL OF COMPLAINTS.

AND JUST TO REITERATE AS WELL, MY TEAM, I HAVE SOMEONE IN STAFF SEVEN DAYS A WEEK AND THEY CHECK COMPLAINTS IN THE MORNING.

SO IF IT'S SOMETHING TIME SENSITIVE LIKE TRASH, LIKE THEY KNOW THEY HAVE TO SEE IT TODAY BECAUSE IT'S NOT GONNA BE THERE TOMORROW, THEY'LL GO AND CHECK THOSE THINGS AS WELL.

I WOULD SAY THERE'S A NON-EMERGENCY LINE TOO.

SOME FOLKS FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE DIALING 9 1 1.

UM, AND SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE THAT AS WELL.

GOES TO THE SAME PLACE, NEITHER HERE NOR THERE, BUT YOU KNOW, IF, IF YOU HAVE A, YOU KNOW, NOISE YOU FEEL LIKE, I'M NOT GONNA CALL 'CAUSE SOMEONE'S NOT BEING MURDERED, BUT THEY'RE JUST BEING LOUD, THEY CAN CALL THE NON-EMERGENCY LINE.

SO I WOULD, I WOULD ENCOURAGE THAT.

EXCELLENT.

THANK YOU, LINDSAY.

THANK YOU MR. CORHORT.

I JUST WANTED TO, UH, WEIGH IN REAL QUICK ON THE, UH, AN ADDITIONAL ASPECT OF THE STRATEGY TO FOCUS ON SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND, UM, MY SUPPORT OF, OF THAT, JUST BECAUSE I KNOW APARTMENT COMPLEXES, UH, OFTEN HAVE CLAUSES THAT PREVENT YOU SUBLEASING YOUR APARTMENT ANYWAY, RIGHT? AND SO THEY'RE ALMOST TAKING THAT BURDEN OF ENFORCEMENT FROM THE CITY, WHEREAS A LOT OF TIMES SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES, UH, DON'T HAVE THAT.

UM, AND THEN ALSO JUST TO, UH, A COUPLE THINGS THAT COUNCILMAN BARRIOS HAD HAD ASKED ABOUT.

UM, YOU KNOW, UH, OBVIOUSLY WE'D HAVE TO AMEND THE ORDINANCE TO BE VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT WHERE TO PUT THAT PIECE OF PAPER.

I MEAN, PERSONALLY I'M KIND OF AMBIVALENT ABOUT IT, BUT IF IT COMES BEFORE US, THEN YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M FINE WITH IT.

I SAID I'D VOTE FOR IT.

UM, AND THEN JUST TO ALSO CLARIFY, SO IF STAFF RE RE REJECTS THE NUMBERS ON THE EQUATION AND THEY PLUG IT IN AND THEY SHOW YOU THAT, UH, THE EXPENSES SEES THE REVENUE FOR TRYING TO COLLECT HOTEL MOS HILL TAX, YOU'RE GOOD WITH THAT AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE CONCERNED WITH BEYOND THAT POINT? YEAH, I DEFINITELY DON'T, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY IT IS GONNA BE A SMALL NUMBER, YOU KNOW, IF WE ONLY HAVE 80 RENTALS AND THAT'S ONE SMALL HOTEL, YOU KNOW, AND, AND WE'VE ALL SEEN THE REVENUE REPORTS FROM WHAT THE HOTELS PAY ON AVERAGE OCCUPANCY.

UM, SO IT, IT ISN'T A BIG NUMBER TO COUNCILMAN HUTCHIN RE'S POINT.

UM, I DEFINITELY WOULDN'T WANT TO, TO SEE IT BECOME ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE, YOU KNOW, WELL, WE HAVE TO HIRE STAFF TYPE THING, BUT IF IT'S, IF IT'S AVAILABLE AS FROM A THIRD PARTY, I THINK, I WONDER IF THERE'S A BUILT-IN EFFICIENCY WHERE IT WOULDN'T BE, UH, COSTLY TO US AND MAYBE THEIR FEE COMES OUT OF RIGHT.

PART OF THAT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

YEAH, SO THE COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS IS, IS DEFINITELY A PART OF CONSIDERATION.

I MEAN, MY RECOLLECTION WAS THAT THERE WAS A, A FAIR NUMBER OF COUNCIL MEMBERS LAST YEAR WHO DIDN'T WANT TO TAX AND PUT THE BURDEN ON AN INDIVIDUAL WHO MIGHT WANT TO RENT THEIR HOME ONCE OR TWICE A YEAR OR RENT THEIR APARTMENT ONCE OR TWICE A YEAR.

IT'S A, SO, I MEAN, THAT WAS PART OF THE DIALOGUE THAT YOU ALL HAD LAST TIME THIS CAME UP.

AND SO IT WAS ALSO, I MEAN, YOU'RE TA WHO ARE YOU TAXING? UM, AND WHO ARE YOU PUTTING THAT BURDEN ON TO SUBMIT THOSE, THAT FILING WITH THE STATE? AND PARTICULARLY IF IT'S A, IF IT'S A THREE OR FOUR TIME A YEAR KIND OF A SITUATION.

SO WE, WE CAN REVISIT THAT.

UH, WE CAN, WE CAN LOOK AT THE NUMBERS.

UH, I THINK THAT YOU'RE GONNA FIND, UM, AGAIN, I THINK WITH, WITH THE TREND WITH THE NUM BACK LAST YEAR, I THINK WHEN WE, WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THIS, WE THOUGHT THAT ON AVERAGE IT WAS AROUND 230 OR SO, AND ON ANY GIVEN DAY, SOME, SOME NUMBER LIKE THAT.

SO, I MEAN, WE'RE SEEING A, A PRETTY, PRETTY SIGNIFICANT DROP.

IT'S PROBABLY 'CAUSE WE BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT, WHAT WE'RE SEEING AND WHEN WE HAVE A CUSTOMIZED SYSTEM NOW TO, TO GENERATE THE LISTINGS.

BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT WAS, IT WAS A COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS WAS DEFINITELY A BIG PART OF IT.

BUT IT WAS ALSO, I THINK, A LITTLE BIT OF PHILOSOPHICAL DISCUSSION ON DO YOU WANT TO, DO YOU WANNA BURDEN SOMEONE WHO IS ONLY DOING THIS EVERY NOW AND THEN? YEAH.

WITH THAT RESPONSIBILITY OF COMPLYING, IF YOU ADOPT THE ORDINANCE, THEN WE HAVE TO ENFORCE IT.

DON, I, I AGREE.

I WAS JUST TRYING TO GET SOME CLARITY ON WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER BARRIOS WAS ASKING.

SURE, SURE.

PARTY THAT, AND IT MAKES SENSE FINANCIALLY, THAT'S WHERE I STAND.

BUT I'M, I'M JUST, I, NO, I'M NOT, I'M NOT, I'M JUST LOOKING FOR DIRECTION 'CAUSE I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT DO, DO YOU, ARE WE GOOD TONIGHT AS WE WRAP UP EVEN ON THAT POINT? OR WOULD YOU LIKE US TO LOOK AT THAT, UM, THAT THIRD PARTY? CAN I MAKE A COMMENT ON THAT? I THINK MY STANCE IS, UH, THAT I'D LIKE TO LOOK AT IT THROUGH THIRD PARTY.

I DON'T, I, I WOULD HAVE A HARD TIME BELIEVING THE NUMBERS BIG ENOUGH WHERE IT WOULD MAKE SENSE DO IT IN-HOUSE.

BUT IF WE CAN DO IT THROUGH A THIRD

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WELL, IF I CAN ADD TO THAT, UM, I MEAN, FIRST OF ALL TO, UH, COUNCILMAN HUTCHIN RE'S, UH, COMMENT ABOUT THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH TO SQUEEZE.

I I HAVE TO AGREE.

I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING A VERY MINUTE AMOUNT OF PROPERTIES, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU'RE GONNA PUT A BURDEN ON SOMEONE HAVE TO PAY TAX.

FIRST OF ALL, THEY'RE ALREADY PAYING THE $75 FEE TO REGISTER, AND THEY'RE ALREADY PAYING, UH, A, A, A THIRD PARTY BASICALLY, WHICH IS EITHER, UH, FROM, UH, AIRBNB OR, OR VEMO.

AND IT'S, IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE THAT WOULD JUST BE, I MEAN, THAT'D BE, THEY'D BE BASICALLY PAYING THREE TYPES OF FEES FOR SOMEONE THAT DECIDES TO RENT THEIR PROPERTY OUT FOR 1, 2, 3 TIMES, UM, A YEAR IF, IF EVEN THAT.

SO, AND I CERTAINLY WOULDN'T THINK THAT MAYBE WE SHOULD CONSIDER THAT AS AN INTERNAL, UM, TASK.

BUT AGAIN, THAT'S MY OPINION.

AND, UM, I, WE CERTAINLY COULD LOOK AT IT FURTHER, BUT I JUST THINK THERE'S, IT'S, IT SEEMS TO BE A LOW HANGING FRUIT FOR THE AMOUNT OF PROPERTIES THAT ARE CURRENTLY BEING ESTABLISHED AS RENTALS OR SHORT TERM RENTAL OR, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

I JUST WANTED TO, I THINK, REFRESH SOME OF OUR MEMORY THAT WHAT WAS DISCUSSED THAT TIME BESIDES THAT PHILOSOPHICAL POINT.

THERE WAS ANOTHER POINT WAS DISCUSSED, UH, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, UH, WHOEVER WAS THERE, SOME OF YOU THERE THAT WAS, THAT THIS NUMBERS ARE LOW AND THE PRIORITY WAS MORE FOR THE SAFETY AND, UH, MAKING SURE THE CODE ENFORCEMENT.

SO IF THE PROPERTY OWNER DOES NOT REGISTER BECAUSE OF THE TAX AND, UH, WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY ARE THERE, THEN SOMETIMES ENFORCEMENT COULD BE DIFFICULT.

UH, AND SOME SOMETHING HAPPENED, THEN IT WOULD BE TOO LATE TO DO SOMETHING.

SO THAT WAS ANOTHER POINT THAT WE DISCUSSED BECAUSE, UH, IT'S TOO LOW NUMBER.

WE CAN MANAGE IT, MAKE IT MUCH BETTER SAFER CITY, UH, UNLESS SOMETHING HAPPENED DOWN THE ROAD, YOU KNOW, STATE OR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, YOU KNOW, COME UP WITH SOMETHING ABOUT THAT SHORT TERM RENTAL.

UH, AND SOME OF THE CASE WERE PENDING.

SO I THINK PROBABLY GOOD IDEA, MY OPINION THAT, UH, WAIT UNTIL WHAT WE SEE DOWN THE ROAD SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO SPEND THE TIME, UH, RIGHT NOW COMING UP WITH SOME QUICK DECISION OR GOOD DISCUSSION.

SO, UH, THAT WOULD BE MY OPINION.

MS. JUSTICE.

YEAH, I THINK TO YOUR QUESTION, I THINK WE DID THIS TO TRY AND BALANCE THE RIGHTS AND THE SAFETY AS YOU SAID.

SO I AGREE WITH, WITH WHAT ARVIN SAID.

AND SO I, AS I STATED BEFORE, I THINK THE ORDINANCE IS DONE WHAT WE WANTED IT TO DO, AND WE WERE TRYING TO BE EXTREMELY THOUGHTFUL IN WHAT WE PASS SO THAT WE CAN BALANCE THOSE RIGHTS.

UM, WHAT I THINK YOU'RE SUGGESTING WOULD SORT OF START TIPPING IT ONE WAY VERSUS THE OTHER.

AND SO FOR ME, I DON'T, UM, THINK THAT AT THIS, THIS TIME WE NEED TO TAKE ANY FURTHER ACTION.

UM, UNLESS YOU COME BACK IN A YEAR AND WE SEE THAT THE TREND HAS CHANGED.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS THE IDEA IS WE WOULD CONTINUE TO MONITOR THIS AND CONTINUE TO GET, UH, PRESENTATIONS ON IT.

AND IF WE SAW THAT IT WASN'T EFFECTIVE MM-HMM, , AND WE NEEDED TO TAKE FURTHER ACTION, WE COULD.

UM, I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT TONIGHT.

SO I, I I, I, I DON'T WANNA TIP THE SCALES ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

'CAUSE IT SEEMS AS THOUGH WE'VE BALANCED IT REALLY WELL AT THIS POINT.

THANK YOU, MS. JUSTICE.

I THINK YOU SAID IT WELL.

I, I, I'LL JUST SAY, LINDSAY, THANK YOU FOR A GREAT PRESENTATION, CHIEF.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MICHAEL.

UM, IN ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION, WHAT THE COUNCIL ASKED WAS GIVE US A REFRESH A YEAR LATER, AND THAT'S WHAT HAS HAPPENED TONIGHT.

WE, AND ESPECIALLY THE FACT THAT WE HAVE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS, I THINK IT WAS CRITICAL THAT WE BROUGHT THIS BACK.

LET EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND IT AND SEE IT.

UM, THE FACT THAT YOUR NUMBERS IN YOUR DEPARTMENT ARE OVERWORKED, OVERWHELMED, AND JUST TRYING TO DOCUMENT ALL THIS INFORMATION AND IT, AND IT'S, IT'S HARD TO, EVEN BASED ON YOUR SLIDE, IT'S, IT, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO REALLY PINPOINT EXACTLY WHAT IT IS.

I WOULD NOT WANNA PUT MORE OF A BURDEN ON THIS DEPARTMENT TO GO AND TRY TO SAY, OKAY, THIS IS WHO WE'RE GONNA CHARGE TAXES AND SO FORTH AND SO ON.

I THINK IT BECOMES A, AN ISSUE OF MANPOWER FOR HER DEPARTMENT.

AND THEN E EVEN THOUGH YOU HAVE A THIRD PARTY DOING IT, SHE STILL HAS TO DO THE RESEARCH TO GET IT TO THE THIRD PARTY.

SO I I, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF US MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION.

I BELIEVE THAT WHAT HAS OCCURRED TONIGHT IS THE FACT THAT WE NOW HAVE THE DOCUMENTATION THAT IT IS BETTER, IT IS SAFER, AND THE NUMBER OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS

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HAS DECREASED, WHICH ALL OF THAT IS GOOD NEWS TO OUR CITIZENS.

THE ONE THING THAT I WOULD ASK, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WOULD HELP, AND, AND JUST PLEASE TELL ME IF, IF YOU DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL, WOULD IT BE BENEFICIAL? THE DOCUMENT YOU HAVE ON BEING THE GOOD NEIGHBOR AND YOU HAVE THAT SHEET, COULD WE, OR WOULD IT BENEFIT, OR MAYBE WE'VE ALREADY DONE IT AND I'M NOT SURE, TAKE THAT SAME SHEET AND ADJUST IT TO GIVE TO THE NEIGHBORS AROUND THE SHORT TERM RENTAL SO THAT THEY KNOW WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS ARE THERE AND THEY KNOW WHAT NUMBER TO CALL.

SURE.

THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE NOT DONE, BUT EASILY COULD BE THAT MIGHT BE A USER FRIENDLY SAYING TO THE NEIGHBORS, HEY, WE WANT YOU TO BE PARTNERS IN SLOWING DOWN THINGS WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE HAPPEN.

SO THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY SUGGESTION ON THAT.

I LIKE THAT MR. BARRIOS.

I LIKE THAT IDEA.

MAYOR.

ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, TO GET THOSE NEIGHBORS INVOLVED AND GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO, THAT'S GREAT IDEA.

SO THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY RECOMMENDATION THAT WE'D ADD IF IT'S NOT TOO CUMBERSOME OR TOO BURDEN, BUT I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO WORRY ABOUT TAXES.

OKAY, GOOD.

THANKS FOR THE FEEDBACK.

ALRIGHTY, WE'RE GONNA GO TO ITEM E.

THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH.

OKAY, LET ME GET MY GLASSES OFF.

[E. REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE YEAR-END FINANCIAL REPORT FOR THE FY 2022-2023 OPERATING BUDGET AND FY 2024-2025 BUDGET CALENDAR]

THANK YOU, LINDSAY.

WE'RE GONNA GO TO ITEM ITEM E REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE YEAR END FINANCIAL REPORT FOR THE FISCAL FISCAL YEAR 22, 23 OPERATING BUDGET AND FISCAL YEAR 24 25.

BUDGET CALENDAR.

MR. MAGNER.

UH, THANK YOU MAYOR.

MAYOR, COUNSEL, UH, BOBMEYER, OUR BUDGET OFFICER IS HERE AND HE'S GONNA TAKE YOU THROUGH, UH, OUR FOURTH QUARTER BUDGET REPORT FOR 2223.

GOOD EVENING.

UH, MY DREAM OF BEING THE MOST EXCITING THING ON THE AGENDA CONTINUES TO ELUDE ME.

BUT, UH, ANYWAY, UH, AS DON MENTIONED, UH, OUR INTENT HERE IS TO PROVIDE YOU WITH AN UPDATE ON WHERE THE CITY'S FIVE OPERATING FUNDS FINISHED THE LAST FISCAL YEAR, WHICH WOULD BE, UH, 2223.

UH, THE, THE NUMBERS THAT WE'LL BE PRESENTING TO YOU, UH, ARE COMPARING THE YEAR END ACTUAL TO THE ORIGINAL BUDGET.

UH, AND JUST A REMINDER THAT THESE ARE UNAUDITED AT ACTUALS.

UH, WE ARE VERY COMFORTABLE AT THIS POINT TO PRESENT THEM TO YOU, BUT THEY'RE COULD BE SLIGHT CHANGES.

UM, DOWN THE ROAD HERE, UH, THE GENERAL FUND, WHICH IS OUR LARGEST FUND, TOTAL REVENUE, UH, $176 MILLION, UH, EXCEEDED THE BUDGET BY 11.8 MILLION.

UH, YOU'LL SEE THE VARIANCES THERE.

WE'LL DISCUSS A COUPLE OF THEM AND HOPEFULLY I'LL ANSWER MOST OF YOUR QUESTIONS AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK TO ANY OF THEM.

YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS IN THE FUTURE, UH, TO, UH, PROPERTY TAXES, WHICH IS OUR LARGEST, UH, UH, REVENUE SOURCE, UH, $245,000 BELOW THE ORIGINAL BUDGET OF $70 MILLION.

UH, THIS, UH, CURRENT TAXES IS BASED ON A HUNDRED PERCENT COLLECTION, UH, AND CAN BE IMPACTED BY SUPPLEMENTAL RULES.

BUT WE TYPICALLY, UH, UH, COLLECT RIGHT ABOUT, UH, WHAT WE BUDGET, UH, PRIOR YOUR TAXES IMPELLING AN INTEREST COMBINED, UH, FINISHED THE YEAR $194,000 BELOW THE ORIGINAL BUDGET, BUT AS A WHOLE $245,000 BELOW THE ORIGINAL BUDGET.

UH, FRANCHISE FEES IS A, IS AN AREA WHERE WE DID SEE, UH, AN INCREASE, UH, $2.1 MILLION OVER THE ORIGINAL BUDGET OF 17 MILLION.

ELECTRIC FRANCHISE AND GAS FRANCHISE WERE BOTH HEAVILY IMPACTED BY, UH, WEATHER THIS PAST YEAR.

UH, WE WERE ABLE TO SEE THAT ELECTRIC FRANCHISE OR ELECTRIC USAGE WAS UP DURING THE SUMMER, UH, DURING THE HEAT WAVE THAT WE HAD.

AND GAS FRANCHISES WERE IMPACTED BY THE, UH, THE COLDER THAN NORMAL, UH, JANUARY, FEBRUARY, AND MARCH.

UH, AND AS WELL AS, UH, SOME VERY, UH, UH, UH, INCREASES IN SOME OF THE RATES THAT WERE CHARGED.

UH, TELEPHONE FRANCHISES.

THIS IS, UH, KIND OF A SURPRISING STORY FOR US.

IT'S UP $583,000 ABOVE THE ORIGINAL BUDGET.

UH, IN RECENT YEARS, WE'VE SEEN A DECLINE IN TELEPHONE FRANCHISES AS, UH, CUSTOMERS BEGAN TO DROP THEIR, UH, LANDLINES, UH, THAT APPEARS TO BE EXAGGERATED.

UH, WHEN WE WENT INTO COVID, A LOT OF COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS, UH, DROPPED SOME OF THEIR LINES.

AND WHAT WE SAW IN, IN, UH, THIS PAST YEAR WAS A RETURN OF SOME OF THOSE WORKERS BACK TO WORK, AS WELL AS REESTABLISHING THOSE PHONE LINES, WHICH ACTUALLY RESULTED IN AN INCREASE IN FRANCHISE FEES.

UH, THE REMAINING FRANCHISE FEES, UH, TOTALED, UH, 369,000 OVER THEIR TOTAL BUDGET, UH, SALES TAX.

THIS IS ANOTHER AREA WHERE WE SAW AN INCREASE ABOVE OUR ORIGINAL BUDGET, UH, $7.2 MILLION OVER THE, UH, COMBINED, UH, TOTAL OF 52.5 MILLION.

UH, WHEN WE WERE, UH, ESTABLISHED IN THIS BUDGET IN THE SUMMER OF 22, THERE WERE STILL SOME THINGS THAT WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT, UH, THE ECONOMIC ACTIVITY WAS SUSTAINABLE, UM, WHAT INTEREST RATES WERE GOING TO DO TO SOME OF THE ECONOMIC ACTIVITY, AS WELL AS SOME, SOME RULE CHANGES DOWN AT THE STATE, AT THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE.

UH, SO WE WENT IN WITH

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A CONSERVATIVE APPROACH, AND THIS IS THE MAIN CAUSE OF THIS.

UH, THIS INCREASE IS, UH, OUR CONSERVATIVE APPROACH.

AND IT TURNS OUT THAT SOME OF OUR CONCERNS, UH, HAVE BEEN, UH, EASED AND WILL, UH, FACTOR THAT INTO SOME FUTURE, UH, PROJECTIONS.

THE REMAINING REVENUES, UH, TOTAL OF 27.2 MILLION, UH, $2.7 MILLION OVER THE ORIGINAL BUDGET.

THE BIGGEST ONE THAT YOU'LL SEE THERE IS THAT, UH, REVENUE FOR MONEY AND PROPERTY, UH, IN THE GENERAL FUND.

THIS IS INTEREST AND, AND WE HAVE SOME RESIDUAL CIVIC CENTER, UH, REVENUE, BUT IT, IT, FROM NOW ON, IT'S GONNA BE INTEREST EARNINGS.

UH, YOU'LL SEE THAT IN ALL THE FUNDS AS INTEREST, UH, RATES HAVE INCREASED.

WE SAW, UH, INTEREST EARNINGS, UH, INCREASE AS WELL.

UH, RECREATION LEISURE, WE WE'RE SEEING A MULTI-YEAR RECOVERY FROM SOME OF THE DAMPENING WE SAW DURING COVID.

UH, IT WAS UP $543,000 OVER ITS ORIGINAL BUDGET AS A RESULT OF STRONGER ACTIVITY AT BOTH REC CENTERS AS WELL AS THE SENIOR CENTER.

AND THEN THE OTHER REVENUE CATEGORY THERE, MOST OF THAT IS, UM, A RESULT OF INCREASED AMBULANCE, UH, REVENUE.

UH, WE HAVE SEEN, UH, NOT ONLY, UH, NUMBER OF CALLS INCREASE, BUT UH, TRANSPORT RATES AS WELL.

UH, TOTAL EXPENDITURES EXCLUDING ANY, UH, YEAR END TRANSFERS, UH, FINISHED AT $158 MILLION, UH, 4.8 MILLION, $4.9 MILLION BELOW THE ORIGINAL BUDGET.

ALMOST ALL THE, THAT SAVINGS COMES FROM THE PERSONNEL CATEGORY, 4.8 MILLION.

OF THAT 4.9 MILLION, UH, WE HAD ABOUT 69 VACANCIES PER MONTH IN THE GENERAL FUND, WHICH IS ABOUT 8%.

UH, SO WE, WE HAVE SEEN SOME, UH, RECRUITMENT CHALLENGES, BUT WE'RE MAKING IN INCREMENTAL CHANGES OR, UH, UH, STEPS TO, TO, UH, UH, REMEDY THAT.

UH, IF YOU REMEMBER, THE GENERAL FUND SUPPORTS SOME PAY AS YOU GO ACTIVITIES SUCH AS, UH, STREET VALLEY REHAB, PARKS, MAINTENANCE, FACILITY MAINTENANCE, AS WELL AS ARE SOME OF OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES.

THOSE TRANSFERS FINISHED AS BUDGETED.

UH, AND THEN AFTER ENSURING THAT THE FUND FINISHES ABOVE ITS 90 DAY FUND BALANCE, UH, THERE IS $15.375 MILLION THAT WILL BE SET ASIDE TO ASSIST WITH, UH, THE BOND PROGRAM, AS WELL AS SOME SPECIAL MAINTENANCE INITIATIVES AND OTHER ONE-TIME COSTS.

UM, OF THAT, UH, FIVE POINT OR 5 MILLION OF IT WILL BE USED TO SUPPLEMENT THE 21 BOND PROGRAM, 3.5 MILLION TO COMPLETE THE THIRD NEIGHBORHOOD STREET, UH, ZONE REPAIR ZONE.

IF YOU REMEMBER THIS PAST YEAR, YOU KNOW, WE TYPICALLY HAVE ONE, WE ADDED OUR SECOND ONE.

THIS IS NOW THE THIRD THAT WE'VE ADDED.

UH, 1 MILLION TO SUPPLEMENT, UH, SOME TRANSPORTATION, UM, PROJECTS ALONG 75 $600,000 FOR SOME ENHANCEMENTS AT CREEK, UH, PRAIRIE CREEK PARK, 525,000 FOR SOME ASPHALT OVERLAY ON DUMONT BETWEEN DUBLIN AND DOVER, AS WELL AS SOME NEIGHBORHOOD BIKE LANE MARKINGS.

500,000 FOR THE CITY'S RESTORATION EFFORTS FOR MS. BELL'S HOUSE.

AND THEN, UH, 400,000 IS GONNA BE SET ASIDE FOR SOME POSSIBLE NEEDS HERE AT THIS NEW TEMPORARY FACILITY, UH, $250,000, UH, FOR THE, UH, WEBSITE REDESIGN.

I'M SORRY, I MISSED THE $400,000 FOR SOME, UH, REHAB AT, AT THE SERVICE CENTER.

AND THEN THE REMAINING $3.3 MILLION WILL BE SET ASIDE FOR, FOR SOME FUTURE NEEDS.

NOW, UH, THIS DOESN'T NECESSARILY FLOW THROUGH THE GENERAL FUND, BUT EARLIER IN THE YEAR, YOU WERE BRIEFED ON SOME REVENUE THAT WE'LL BE RECEIVING FROM DART, UH, DART THROUGH SOME EXCESS, UH, SALES TAX COLLECTION, AS WELL AS SOME, UH, FEDERAL GRANTS WERE ABLE TO BUILD A SURPLUS AND THEY ARE, UH, DISTRIBUTING SOME OF THAT SURPLUS BACK TO THE MEMBER CITIES.

AND OUR PORTION'S GONNA BE ABOUT $14.4 MILLION.

AND THIS IS A LIST OF PROJECTS THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT, UM, UH, UH, PROCEEDING WITH 6.2 MILLION TO EXPAND LAKESIDE LAWN VIEW RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT 3.1 MILLION, UH, FOR LINGO ROAD RECONSTRUCTION FROM SPRING VALLEY TO SHERMAN.

UH, A LITTLE OVER 2 MILLION FOR STREET REHAB ALONG, UH, DARK BUS ROUTES ON ARAPAHOE, BELTLINE AND COY.

$1 MILLION, UH, WILL BE SET ASIDE FOR THE ARAPAHOE CENTER, UH, STATION.

PRE-DEVELOPMENT COSTS 1 MILLION FOR SOME, UH, WORK AT, UH, EAST SPRING VALLEY AND ABRAMS. AND THEN $1 MILLION FOR SPRING VALLEY PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AND A DA IMPROVEMENTS.

UH, AGAIN, THIS IS, UH, MONEY THAT IS COMING FROM DART HAS TO BE USED FOR TRANSPORTATION RELATED, UM, UH, ISSUES.

UH, WITH ALL OF THAT, THE, THE GENERAL FUND IS FINISHING WITH $42.3 MILLION IN FUND BALANCE, WHICH IS EQUATES TO 90.96 DAYS.

SO, UH, ABOVE THE, THE, THE 90 DAY FUND, UH, FINANCIAL POLICY THAT HAS BEEN SET FOR US, UH, WATER AND SEWER FUND, UH, $9.4 MILLION OF THE ORIGINAL BUDGET OF, UH, 95.8 MILLION.

ALMOST THE ENTIRETY OF THAT COMES FROM, UH, WATER AND SEWER REVENUE.

UH, YOU'LL SEE WATER REVENUE $5.8 MILLION OVER THE ORIGINAL BUDGET OF 58.1 MILLION.

SEWER REVENUES 2.6 MILLION OVER THE ORIGINAL BUDGET OF 35.7.

THE REMAINING, UH, REVENUES COMBINED FOR 2.9 MILLION, WHICH IS AN

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INCREASE OF 924,000 OVER THE ORIGINAL BUDGET.

AND IT COMES FROM, UH, 619,000 FROM ADDITIONAL LATE FEES AND INTEREST EARNINGS OF 465,000.

UH, THE MISCELLANEOUS CATEGORY WAS DOWN SLIGHTLY.

UH, WE, UH, SOME OF OUR WATER TOWERS HAVE CELL TOWERS ON THEM, UH, AND WHEN SPRINT AND T-MOBILE COMBINED, WHERE THEY HAD MULTIPLE ANTENNAS, THEY JUST TERMINATED THOSE LEASES.

UH, THIS IS A, A GRAPH OF OUR WATER SALES ABOUT, OH, A LITTLE OVER HALF OF THAT ADDITIONAL REVENUE CAME FROM ONE MONTH, AND THAT'S SEPTEMBER.

UH, THAT WAS KIND OF A PERFECT STORM, IF YOU WILL.

WE HAD A VERY DRY AUGUST AND EARLY SEPTEMBER, SO WE HAD HIGH, UH, IRRIGATION USAGE THAT MONTH.

WE DID SEE AN UPTAKE, AN UPTICK IN JUST, UH, STANDARD COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY.

UH, BUT WE ALSO SAW A SUBSTANTIAL INCREASE IN THE MANUFACTURING SECTOR.

SO, UH, THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, UH, WE SAW, UH, BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, UH, OCTOBER, NOVEMBER WAS IRRIGATION RELATED.

AND THEN THE VARIOUS LITTLE, UH, SPIKES YOU SAW, THERE WAS TYPICALLY MANUFACTURING RELATED, UH, SEWER, UH, SAW WASTE, OR, I MEAN, UH, RESIDENTIAL SEWER, UM, PRETTY MUCH TRACKED ABOUT WHERE WE ANTICIPATED A LITTLE BIT UP THERE TOWARDS THE END OF THE SUMMER.

UH, BUT THE SPIKES THAT YOU'RE SEEING THERE IN THE COMMERCIAL AREA IS, UH, SOME, UH, UPTICK IN MANUFACTURING ACTIVITY WITHIN THE CITY.

UH, TOTAL EXPENDITURES, EXCLUDING ANY KIND OF, UH, YEAR-END TRANSFERS, UH, 1.6 MILLION OVER THE ORIGINAL BUDGET OF, UH, 1.6 BELOW, UH, THE ORIGINAL BUDGET OF, UH, 95.3 MILLION.

UH, THERE WAS SOME, UH, SAVINGS THERE IN THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES CATEGORY THAT'S RELATED TO OUR CMOM PROGRAM.

UH, FOR SEWER REHAB.

UH, THE MAJORITY OF THAT IS ENCUMBERED, UM, AND IS GOING TO BE, UH, COVERED BY A RESERVE OF FUND BALANCE AT YEAR END.

BUT WHERE WE DID SEE SAVINGS IN THE PERSONNEL CATEGORY, 698,000 BELOW THE ORIGINAL BUDGET, THIS FUND AVERAGED 16 VACANCIES A MONTH, UH, WHICH IS ALMOST 20%.

UH, SAVINGS WOULD'VE BEEN A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT WE DID HAVE TO RELY HEAVILY ON, ON OVERTIME TO COVER SOME OF THOSE VACANCIES.

THE OTHER PLACE WE SAW SOME SAVINGS IS IN OUR CONTRACT AREA.

THIS IS WHERE, UM, OUR WATER AND SEWER CONTRACTS ARE, WHICH MAKES UP 65% OF THE, THE FUND'S OVERALL EXPENDITURES.

UH, TOTAL WATER OF, UH, 35.3 MILLION WAS, UM, BELOW THE BUDGET, UH, BY 745,000, WHICH INCLUDED, UH, $563,000 OF A, OF A REBATE.

UH, SEWER TREATMENT OF 23.9 MILLION WAS 148,000 COMBINED BELOW THE ORIGINAL BUDGET, UH, TRANSFERS.

OUR OPERATING TRANSFERS, UH, IS UP SLIGHTLY FROM THE ORIGINAL BUDGET OF 10.3 MILLION.

AND THIS IS, UH, HAS TO DO WITH THE TRUE UP OF THE FRANCHISE FEES AS A RESULT OF THE HIGHER REVENUES.

UH, OUR DEBT SERVICE TRANSFER, UH, WAS INCREASED BY ABOUT 110,000 TO ENSURE THE, THE, UH, FUND BALANCE IN THAT, IN THAT FUND.

AS A RESULT OF THAT STRONGER REVENUE PERFORMANCE, WE'RE ABLE TO SET ASIDE 11.71 MILLION, UH, TO SUPPORT THE CITY'S ONGOING INFRASTRUCTURE PROGRAM AND TO HELP OFFSET SOME FUTURE, UH, NEED FOR FUTURE DEBT ISSUANCES.

UH, THIS IS A $9.96 MILLION ABOVE WHAT WE ORIGINALLY INTENDED, UH, TO, TO SEND OVER TO THE CAPITAL PROGRAM, UH, BUT DEFINITELY, UH, A GOOD SIGN OR A GOOD, UM, PROBLEM TO HAVE.

UH, 6 MILLION OF THAT WILL BE USED TO SUPPLEMENT SOME UTILITY, UH, COST ON CUSTER ROAD NORTH OF CAMPBELL.

$3.5 MILLION WILL SUPPLEMENT THE 8 25 PRESSURE ZONE IMPROVEMENTS.

AND THEN, UH, 2.2 UH, MILLION WILL BE, UH, SET ASIDE FOR FUTURE NEEDS TO, TO HELP OFFSET SOME OF THAT, UH, POSSIBLE, UH, DEBT ISSUANCE IN THE FUTURE.

WITH ALL THAT, AGAIN, THIS FUND FINISHES ABOVE THE 90 DAY MINIMUM FUND BALANCE POLICY.

AT 90.96 DAYS, SAW WASTE, UH, FINISHED FAIRLY CLOSE TO WHAT WE ANTICIPATED, A HUNDRED OR $217,000 BELOW THE ORIGINAL BUDGET OF 17 POINT, UH, $8 MILLION.

UH, THAT $179,000, UH, SHORTFALL IN THE RESIDENTIAL, UH, COMES MOSTLY, UH, COMBINATION OF TWO PLACES, UH, LOWER THAN ANTICIPATED, UH, REVENUE FROM THE SALE OF RECYCLABLES, UH, ON THE RESIDENTIAL RECYCLING PROGRAM, AS WELL AS, UH, WE HAD SOME, UH, INCREASE IN OUR, UH, SENIORS TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE, THE SENIOR RATE REDUCTION, UH, TOTAL EXPENDITURES IN THAT FUND OF $16.7 MILLION AT 783,000 BELOW THE ORIGINAL BUDGET.

UM, UH, 362,000 OF THAT COMES FROM PERSONNEL SAVINGS.

AGAIN, THIS IS ANOTHER AREA WHERE WE'RE, WE, WE'VE BEEN FACED WITH SOME RECRUITMENT CHALLENGES, PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, DOWN 124,000 FROM THE ORIGINAL BUDGET, AS WE SAW SOME SAVINGS FROM THE PROCESSING OF THE RECYCLED MATERIALS CONTRACTS DOWN $286,208,000 OF THAT IS FROM, UH, LOWER THAN ANTICIPATED LANDFILL COST.

WE BUDGETED 102,000 TONS, AND WE CAME IN RIGHT AROUND 98,000 TONS.

SO, UM, LESS THAN WHAT WE ANTICIPATED.

AND THEN, UH, 70, UH, $67,000 SAVINGS ON OUR COMPOSTING, UH, PROGRAM.

UH, WITH THAT, WE HAVE A SURPLUS, UH, UH, THAT WE'RE GOING TO, UH, TRANSFER TO THE CAPITAL

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FUND, UH, 655,000 CURRENTLY.

UM, AND THAT WILL BE SET ASIDE PENDING THE RESULTS OF THE MASTER PLAN THAT ERIC'S GROUP, UH, KIND OF BRIEFED US ON AS WE SEE NEEDS THAT MIGHT ARISE FROM THAT MASTER PLAN.

UH, WITH THAT, UH, THE GENERAL OR THE SALT WASTE FUND FINISHES AT 90.9 DAYS, UH, WHICH IS 9.99 DAYS ABOVE THE MINIMUM POLICY OF 60 BUILDING TO 90 DAYS.

SO AGAIN, UH, SUSTAINING THAT 90 DAY FINANCIAL POLICY, THE GULF FUND CONTINUED STRENGTH AT CHERYL PARK.

UM, WE BUDGETED THIS FUND, UH, BASED ON MODERATE, UH, WELL STRONG, BUT ON MORE ON THE MODERATE CONSERVATIVE SIDE, UH, ROUNDS PLAYED, AND WE EXCEEDED THAT THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

SO ALL OF THAT ADDITIONAL REVENUE, 203,000, CAME FROM ADDITIONAL, UH, ROUND, UH, GREEN FEES, UH, 67,000 FROM ADDITIONAL CART FEES.

AND OF THE ADDITIONAL, UH, 74,000, 22,000 CAME FROM, UH, HIGHER THAN ANTICIPATED LESSONS, 14,000 FROM HIGHER ACTIVITY AT THE DRIVING RANGE.

AND THEN, UH, JUST LIKE ALL THE OTHER FUNDS, STRONGER THAN ANTICIPATED INTEREST EARNINGS.

AND THIS IS A ILLUSTRATION OF OUR ROUNDS PLAYED AGAIN, UH, WE, WE BUDGETED ABOUT, UH, 90,000 ROUNDS.

WE FINISHED THE YEAR AT 97,403 ROUNDS, UH, WHICH IS NINE 2,904 ROUNDS ABOVE WHAT WE DID THE THE PRIOR YEAR.

UH, THIS STILL CONTINUES TO OUTPACE, UH, OUR PRE PANDEMIC AVERAGE OF, OF JUST UNDER 74,000 ROUNDS, UH, TOTAL EXPENDITURES, UH, 205,206,000 BELOW THE ORIGINAL BUDGET OF 2.8 MILLION.

THE MAJORITY OF THAT'S COMING FROM THAT, THAT BOTTOM LINE AT THE BEGINNING OF 22, WE ANTICIPATED, SETTING ASIDE ABOUT 295,000 FOR A CAPITAL RESERVE PROGRAM, UH, WITH THE CLOSURE OF COURSE TWO FOR RENOVATIONS DURING FY 24.

UH, WE'RE GONNA LEAVE THAT ADDITIONAL REVENUE IN THE FUND, UH, TO HELP ENSURE THAT THAT FUND'S, UH, STABLE THROUGH THAT, UH, UH, TIME WHEN IT'S GONNA HAVE SOME REDUCED REVENUE.

UH, IF YOU'RE A MEMBER AS PART OF THE 24 BUDGET, WE, WE PLANNED ON AN INFUSION FROM OUR SPECIAL PROJECTS FUND, ABOUT 595,000.

WE'RE HOPING BY LEAVING THIS IN PLUS ADDITIONAL STRONG PLAY ON COURSE ONE, WE COULD HOPEFULLY ELIMINATE OR REDUCE THAT, UH, UH, UH, 2 590 5,000, UH, IN, WHICH WILL BE EVALUATED AT YEAR END AT THIS TIME NEXT YEAR.

UH, WITH THAT, UH, AGAIN, FUND BALANCE IS 154 DAYS, WHICH AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO LEAVE IN THE FUND TO, TO, TO HELP ENSURE IT WHILE THE COURSE TWO IS CLOSED.

HOTEL MOTEL FUND, THIS IS ANOTHER ONE, UH, THAT WE WENT IN WITH SOME, SOME CURB CONSERVATIVE APPROACH ON, ON TAX ACTIVITY.

UM, AS WE WERE, UH, BUDGETING THAT IN, UH, THE, UH, SUMMER OF 22, UH, WE DID START TO SEE A MAJORITY OF THAT INCREASE COMES FROM, UH, UH, TAX REVENUE.

UH, WE STARTED TO SEE A, A, A, UH, RECOVERY OF THE HOSPITALITY INDUSTRY, UH, LATE THAT YEAR.

UH, NOW A LOT OF THAT SEEMED TO BE MORE, UM, PERSONAL TRAVEL, YOU KNOW, STAYCATIONS AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.

WE WEREN'T EXACTLY SURE HOW, UH, SUSTAINABLE THAT WAS GONNA BE.

WE WERE WAITING FOR THE BUSINESS TO BUSINESS TRAVEL TO RE RETURN.

UH, SO WE BUDGETED THAT CONSERVATIVELY ABOUT 90% OF THE FIVE YEAR AVERAGE, UH, PRE PANDEMIC AVERAGE.

UH, AND, UH, WE WERE, WE'VE BEEN PLEASED TO SEE THAT, UH, UH, STAYS CONTINUE TO BE HIGH.

UH, WE WERE ACTUALLY SEEING A HIGHER OCCUPANCY RATE AND HIGHER AVERAGE DAILY RATE THAN WE DID BEFORE THE PANDEMIC.

UH, SO GOOD NEWS WITH THAT.

THE OTHER REVENUES, UH, EIS CENTER REVENUES OF 2.1 MILLION FINISHED 428,000 ABOVE ITS ORIGINAL BUDGET OF 2.7.

AGAIN, THIS WAS BASED ON SOME CONSERVATIVE ASSUMPTIONS.

UH, AND THIS ACTUALLY IS 428,000.

IT'S KIND OF TIED TO SOME EXPENDITURES THAT I'LL, I'LL MENTION HERE IN A SECOND.

UH, PARKING REVENUE, UH, 55,000 OVER OUR ORIGINAL BUDGET OF 3 24.

THAT'S DIRECTLY RESULT OF, UH, ADDITIONAL ACTIVITY AT THE EISMAN CENTER ABOVE WHAT WE'VE PROJECTED.

AND THEN INTEREST EARNINGS OF, UH, 201,000 ABOVE ITS ORIGINAL BUDGET OF 81,000.

UM, TOTAL EXPENDITURES INCREASED 530,000.

YOU'LL SEE THE LARGEST PART OF THAT IS, UM, THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICE CATEGORY.

WE SEE AN INCREASE OF, UH, 577,000.

MAJORITY OF THAT.

THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT IN ORDER TO ENSURE THE QUALITY OF, UH, STUFF LIKE STAGE LABOR AND SECURITY, WE HIRE, AND THEN WE BILL BACK TO THE CLIENTS.

SO WE WILL HOST THE EXPENSE, BUT THEN WE WILL BUILD A CLIENT.

SO WE'LL SEE AN INCREASE IN THE EXPENDITURE OFFSET BY THAT INCREASE REVENUE.

UH, FOR THE MOST PART, THE REST OF THE FUNDS, UH, UH, UH, HANDLED THE WAY THAT WE ANTICIPATED THE CAPITAL PROGRAM THERE.

UH, PART OF IT WAS ABOUT 50,000 OF IT WAS FOR, UM, SOME LIGHT RETROFIT AT THE, UH, PARKING GARAGE, WHICH WE, WE, UH, FOUND ANOTHER SOURCE FOR.

AND THEN WE DEFERRED, UH, THE, UH, SMOKE DAMPER REPLACEMENT, WHICH IS ABOUT $60,000, UH, AT THE END OF THE YEAR.

UH, WE PLANNED, UH, THIS PAST SUMMER TO TRANSFER 900,000 FROM THIS FUND TO A CAPITAL FUND FOR SOME, UH, ONE-TIME CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.

IT INCLUDED IN THAT IS, UH, 250,000 FOR THE REPLACEMENT OF THE FIRE PANEL AT THE EISMAN CENTER.

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THAT SMOKE DAMPER, UH, PROJECT HAS BEEN INCORPORATED IN THAT.

SO WE DEFERRED IT IN 23 TO, UH, TO EXPAND IT IN 24.

WE'RE ALSO USING, UH, THAT, THAT MONEY THAT WE'RE TRANSFERRING TO THE, UH, CAPITAL FUND, 500,000 FOR, UH, STAGE FLOOR REPLACEMENT IN THE HILL PERFORMANCE HALL, AND 150,000 FOR THE REPLACEMENT OF THE CURTAIN IN THE, THE HILL, UH, REPLACEMENT HALL, PERFORMANCE HALL, EXCUSE ME, NOT REPLACEMENT HALL.

UH, THIS FUND DOES NOT HAVE A MINIMUM FUND BALANCE POLICY, UH, BUT IT'S FINISHED AT, UH, $7.4 MILLION, WHICH IS 1.6 MILLION OVER THE $5.8 MILLION WE BUDGETED FOR THIS FUND.

UH, AT THIS POINT, I'LL OPEN IT UP.

WELL, WELL GOT A QUICK SECOND.

IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE, WELL, LET ME, THIS, THIS WON'T TAKE SECOND.

WE'LL, THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS ON THE, THE BUDGET CALENDAR FOR THE COMING YEAR, UH, THAT WE WANTED TO POINT OUT.

UM, CURRENTLY WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF CLOSING, UH, LAST FISCAL YEAR, WHICH WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO FI FINISH UP HERE TODAY, AS WELL AS, UH, YOU KNOW, PREPARING AND RESPONDING TO SOME AUDITOR COMMENTS.

UH, BUT AFTER THE HOLIDAY, WE'RE GOING TO START PREPARING FOR THE NEXT, UM, UH, BUDGET YEAR, UH, AND DOING SO WE, WE, WE FELT WE MADE NEEDED TO MAKE A CHANGE TO, UH, UM, HOW WE PRESENT THE BUDGET WORKSHOP, OR THE TIMING OF THE BUDGET WORKSHOP.

WE'RE BASICALLY, UH, PROPOSING OR, OR RECOMMENDING THAT WE MOVE THAT BACK.

IT'S ABOUT TWO WEEKS, UH, WITH THE COMPLEXITY OF WHAT, UH, SENATE BILL TWO HAS DONE TO THE TAX RATE CALCULATION, AND AS WELL AS US WANTING TO GIVE YOU THE, THE, THE FULLEST PICTURE WE CAN OF THE BUDGET.

UH, WE ARE, WE ARE SUGGESTING MOVING THE BUDGET WORKSHOP TO, AFTER WE RECEIVE CERTIFIED VALUES, ALLOWING STAFF TO CALCULATE THE TAX RATE.

AND THEN WE COULD COME TO YOU WITH A, A FULLER PICTURE AT THAT BUDGET WORKSHOP AND THEN GET YOUR, YOUR INPUT FROM THERE.

SO, UH, BUDGET, THE, THE DEPARTMENTS WILL START WORKING ON THEIR DEPARTMENT BUDGET IN MARCH 19TH.

UM, UH, DON AND HIS GROUP WILL LAY OUT, UH, THE BUDGET GOALS FOR THE DEPARTMENTS.

UH, THEY'LL HAVE UNTIL EARLY MAY TO, TO, TO PUT THEIR BUDGET PROPOSAL TOGETHER.

AND THEN WE'LL START HAVING, UH, BUDGET HEARINGS OR, OR BUDGET MEETINGS, UH, IN MAY AND EARLY JUNE.

UH, WE'LL RECEIVE CERTIFIED TAX RULES IN THE 25TH OF JULY, UH, BY THE 25TH OF JULY.

AND THEN WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING IS ON MONDAY, AUGUST 5TH AND TUESDAY, AUGUST 2ND TO HAVE THE, THE BUDGET WORKSHOP.

UH, AT THE END OF THAT, WE'LL DISCUSS THE TAX RATE AND SET PUBLIC HEARING DATES FOR THE TAX RATE AND, AND, AND ON THE BUDGET, UH, THE CITY MANAGER WILL FILE THE BUDGET NO LATER THAN AUGUST 15TH.

THAT IS A CHARTER REQUIREMENT.

UM, THEN WE WILL PRESENT THE BUDGET ON MONDAY, AUGUST 19TH WITH, UH, OUR RECOMMENDED PUBLIC HEARINGS ON THE TAX RATE ON SEPTEMBER 9TH, AND THEN SEPTEMBER 16TH, UH, WE'LL PRESENT OR WE'LL HAVE THE BUDGET PUBLIC HEARING AS WELL AS BUDGET ADOPTION AND, AND TAX RE ADOPTION.

UH, SO THAT'S THE MAJOR CHANGE FROM PRE PREVIOUS YEAR IS TO, TO MOVE THAT, UH, BUDGET WORKSHOP TILL AFTER WE GET TO CERTIFIED BUSINESS.

COUNSEL, I, I REALLY WANT TO APPRECIATE, UH, KENT, UH, CHARLES, UH, BOB ALL BRINGING THIS TO ME FOR CONSIDERATION.

I THINK FOR ME, IT DOES TWO IMPORTANT THINGS.

ONE, IT ALLOWS US TO, UM, UH, MAYBE SPREAD OUT THE DEEP DIVES A LITTLE MORE OVER THE COURSE OF THE SUMMER.

I MEAN, SOME OF THOSE NIGHTS CAN BE VERY INTENSE.

AND AS WE GET INTO THE, UH, THE DETAILS OF A LOT OF THESE FUNDS, UH, AND SOME OF THESE STRATEGIES, IT'LL ALLOW US TO, UH, MAYBE NOT HAVE TO, TO, TO SPEND, UH, THREE OR FOUR HOURS IN, IN A GIVEN EVENING JUST BECAUSE WE'RE DRIVING TO THIS, UH, DEADLINE.

THE OTHER THING IS, WHEN WE COME TO YOU WITH THE, UH, IN THE BUDGET WORKSHOP, IT WON'T BE, UH, ANY LONGER.

WHAT ARE THE CERTIFIED, UH, VALUES? OBVIOUSLY, KEN WILL TELL YOU THERE'S SOME, STILL SOME TWEAKING TO DO, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE A LOT MORE CERTAINTY AROUND WHERE THAT NUMBER WILL BE, UM, AND SO WE CAN SPEND MORE TIME FOCUSED ON EXACTLY HOW WE WANT TO, UM, UTILIZE THOSE FUNDS TO KIND OF HELP YOU ACCOMPLISH, YOU KNOW, YOUR GOALS AND STRATEGIES RATHER THAN SPECULATING ABOUT WHAT WE'LL DO IF SOMETHING COMES IN DIFFERENT.

AND SO, I AGAIN, APPRECIATE THESE GUYS BRINGING IT TO MY ATTENTION, AND I REALLY THINK, I FEEL LIKE IT'S GONNA BE A, A, UM, IF, IF WE'RE WRONG FOR SOME REASON, WE'LL GO BACK NEXT YEAR.

JUST JUSTICE.

UH, THERE IS SUBSTANTIAL, UM, POSSIBLE DEBT ISSUANCES COMING UP IN THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS.

I HAVE A QUESTION ON SOME OF THE SURPLUSES.

SO THE SUMMER WHEN WE PASSED OUR BUDGET, WE ADOPTED OUR BUDGET.

UM, WE'VE INCREASED FEES A LITTLE BIT FOR SOME OF THESE FUNDS.

UM, AND SO I'M CURIOUS, YOU KNOW, IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY, YOU KNOW, MY FIRST THOUGHT WAS, IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE THAT MONEY BACK? UM, YOU KNOW, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT THERE'S, UH, SORT OF A DEBT SERVICE COMPONENT TO THIS AND A STRATEGY TO TRY AND AVOID, UH, POTENTIALLY HAVING TO INCREASE FEES AGAIN IN THE FUTURE.

AND SO I'M WONDERING IF YOU, KEN OR DON, CAN YOU TALK TO THAT? 'CAUSE AGAIN, IF A RESIDENT SEES THAT, THEY'D BE LIKE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A LOT OF SURPLUS AND YOU JUST INCREASE MY FEES.

SO YEAH, LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT.

I THINK, I THINK THE BIGGEST ONE WOULD BE IN THE WATER FUND.

I MEAN, THE SALT WASTE FUND, THAT THOSE, THAT INCREASE THOSE INCREASES WERE DEFINITELY NEEDED IN ORDER TO BALANCE THE FUND.

UM, THE, THE, THE INCREASE IN THE, THE WATER FUND, UH, IS KIND OF A MULTI-YEAR APPROACH.

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AND, AND WE TOOK A PHILOSOPHY OVER THE LAST THREE TO MAKE INCREMENTAL CHANGES TO, TO KIND OF HEAD OFF MAYBE A DOUBLE DIGIT INCREASE IN 25 OR 26 OR OR BEYOND.

UH, SO THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST PART OF IT WAS WE WERE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WEREN'T JUST GONNA HAVE TO HIT ONE YEAR.

UM, BUT WE, THE OTHER PART OF THAT IS, IS THE CONSUMPTION, UH, HAS REALLY SURPRISED US IN A WAY.

UM, WE TRY TO, WHEN WE DEVELOP OUR BASE CONSUMPTION, TRY TO, TO FACTOR IN WHAT WE CONSIDER A NORMAL YEAR, UH, WEATHER-WISE, WE TRY TO FACTOR IN SOME OF THE GROWTH, WHETHER IT'S A MULTI-FAMILY, UM, TAR, UH, PROPERTY, WHAT THAT DOES TO CONSUMPTION.

UM, BUT THE LAST TWO YEARS THAT, THAT IRRIGATION HAS REALLY, UM, PUMPED CONSUMPTION.

UM, WE'VE HAD, OF THE PAST SIX YEARS, WE'VE HAD THREE YEARS UNDER 6.6 BILLION GALLONS.

THIS WAS 7.9 BILLION GALLONS.

SO WE, WE TRY TO SHOOT FOR THE MIDDLE BECAUSE, UH, YOU KNOW, IF, IF YOU SHOOT TOO HIGH AND, AND THEN MM-HMM, , WE HAVE A WET YEAR, THEN WE'RE LOOKING AT CUTTING.

UH, AND THAT IS KIND OF A, A, A DOUBLE-EDGED SWORD FOR US.

UM, AND THEN SOME OF THE, THE HEALTH OF THE RICHARDSON COMMUNITY, UH, IN ECONOMY AND, AND SOME OF THE EXPANSION WE'VE SEEN, UH, IN COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES AND, AND MANUFACTURING PROPERTIES, UH, SOME OF THAT DEVELOPMENT IS A, IS IS COMING IN FASTER THAN WHAT WE ANTICIPATED.

SO I, I DON'T SEE LONG TERM THAT WE'VE NECESSARILY OVERSHOT.

I THINK THE, THE, THE GOOD THING IS THIS, THIS SURPLUS IS GONNA HELP BUY DOWN SOME OF THAT DEBT THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO ISSUE IN THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS.

UM, BUT I, I THINK IT, IT MIGHT HAVE PUT US AHEAD OF SCHEDULE, IF YOU WILL, ON SOME OF THOSE RATE INCREASES.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE WILL OBVIOUSLY REEVALUATE THAT EVERY SUM EACH SUMMER WHEN WE GO INTO THE BUDGET SEASON.

BUT, BUT HAD IT BEEN A WET YEAR, WE COULD BE ON THE EXACT OPPOSITE END OF THIS, RIGHT? AND, AND EVEN THE INCREASES WE DID WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN SUFFICIENT, AND WE WOULD BE STILL HAVING ISSUE THE DEBT.

SO I, I THINK IT'S A, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR CON OUR OUR BUDGETING PHILOSOPHY IN MANY WAYS IS TO, TO ERR ON THE SIDE OF CAUTION.

MM-HMM, .

AND WHEN YOU DO, WHEN YOU DO THAT AND YOU HAVE A, UM, EXCEPTIONALLY DRY YEAR, THAT RESULTS IN THAT MUCH MORE CONSUMPTION.

BUT AGAIN, I, I, I WANT, UH, THROW IT TO KEN HERE JUST FOR A SECOND.

UH, KEN, OBVIOUSLY MUCH MORE FAMILIAR WITH THE DEBT MODELING AND THE ASSUMPTIONS WE BUILD INTO THAT.

BUT BY UTILIZING THESE FUNDS TO, UM, CONTRIBUTE TO PROJECTS THAT WE KNOW WERE IN OUR CAPITAL PLAN TODAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE FUNDED WITH DEBT, WE'RE, UM, WE'RE OTHERWISE WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE SMOOTHING IT OUT EVEN MORE SO THAN WE WOULD'VE OTHERWISE.

YEAH, I WOULD SAY IF YOU LOOK AT SLIDE 23, BOB MENTIONED THAT OF THAT $11 MILLION OR ALMOST $12 MILLION, 2.2 MILLION WAS SET ASIDE FOR FUTURE CAPITAL NEEDS.

BUT IN REALITY, I THINK IN, IN MY OPINION, ALL 11.7, UH, IS BEING USED TOWARDS DEBT.

UH, THE $6 MILLION GOING FOR THE UTILITY COST FOR STER ROAD NORTH OF CAMPBELL, AND THEN 3.5 MILLION, UH, TO SUPPLEMENT THE 8 25 PRESSURE ZONE PROJECT.

THAT'S REALLY KIND OF PAY AS YOU GO RIGHT NOW, THAT'S GONNA AVOID SOME INTEREST COSTS.

AND YOU KNOW, AS YOU KNOW, THIS LAST YEAR WHEN WE ISSUED DEBT AND IT CONTINUES, WE'VE SEEN INTEREST COSTS CONTINUE TO GO UP A LITTLE BIT.

SO I THINK THIS WILL HELP OFFSET, HOPEFULLY SOME FUTURE RATE INCREASES THAT WOULD BE NEEDED IF, IF WE WEREN'T DOING THIS.

YEAH, I THINK THAT'S REALLY HELPFUL.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HEAR, 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, WE, NONE OF US LIKE INCREASING FEES.

AND SO, AND THEN WHEN YOU COME HERE AND YOU HEAR HOW WONDERFUL WE DID IN OUR FUNDS, UH, RIGHT AFTER WE RAISED FEES, UM, I THINK IT'S REALLY GOOD TO UNDERSTAND, UM, THAT WHILE WE HAVE A SURPLUS THIS YEAR, THAT MIGHT NOT BE TRUE NEXT YEAR.

AND IT CERTAINLY, UM, WILL HELP US AVOID, UM, AN INCREASE IN THE FUTURE OR A VERY LARGE INCREASE IN THE FUTURE IF WE, YOU KNOW, SO I THINK THAT DOES SMOOTH IT OUT FOR RESIDENTS.

THAT'S REALLY GOOD PERSPECTIVES.

I THINK YOU, MR. CHU.

WE'VE HAD YEARS WHERE WE'VE SEEN A DECREASE IN, IN SALES TAX, AND, AND WE'RE ALWAYS MINDFUL OF THAT.

UH, NO, THAT'S GREAT TOO.

YOU KNOW, RAIN MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE CORPSE.

UH, NOW QUESTION, UH, THE SALES TAX, THIS HAS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THE INFLATION ON ALL THIS, WE SEE THE NUMBERS ALSO HIGH.

DO YOU SEE ANY TREND THAT SALES TAX IS COMING DOWN? UM, NOT NECESSARILY.

UH, IF, IF YOU SAW THE NUMBER FROM DECEMBER, UH, THAT WAS, UH, KIND OF A, A A DOWN MONTH.

WE'VE HAD DOWN MONTHS IN RECENT YEARS THAT DON'T NECESSARILY SHOW A TREND FOR THE YEAR.

LAST DECEMBER WAS SUCH A LARGE SALES S TAX NUMBER, SO BEING UNDER THAT FROM LAST YEAR WAS KIND OF ANTICIPATED IN, IN A WAY.

UM, BUT STILL IT IS, IT IS LESS THAN LAST YEAR.

WE HAVE SEEN SOME AREA CITIES, UH, STRUGGLE, NOT STRUGGLE, UH, BE A LITTLE BIT BELOW ON THEIR SALES TAX OR NOT SEEING THE INCREASES.

BUT RICHARDSON REALLY HAS BEEN BEEN FORTUNATE OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS.

WE, WE'VE POSITIONED OURSELVES STRONG.

NOW, IT IS PART OF OUR CONSERVATIVE APPROACH NOT TO OVERHEAT THAT, AND TO KEEP A MINDFUL EYE ON THAT, UM, YOU KNOW,

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WE DO WATCH TRENDS AND WE, WE TRY TO LOOK AT SOME OF THE DETAILED INFORMATION THAT IS AVAILABLE TO US TO HELP US FORECAST THAT.

BUT CURRENTLY, I MEAN, IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S ON OUR RADAR, BUT WE'RE NOT SEEING NECESSARILY ANYTHING THAT'S SAYING YES, IT'S, IT'S SLOWING DOWN.

NOW LET ME ASK YOU THE QUESTION A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT WAY.

UH, NOW I KNOW YOUR NUMBER IS VERY CONSERVATIVE, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THAT $7 MILLION EXTRA THERE.

UH, IT'S GOOD TO BE CONSERVATIVE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT SPENDING AHEAD OF THE MONEY COMING IN.

SO THAT'S REALLY GOOD THINGS.

NOW, IF YOU HAVE THAT CONSERVATIVE NUMBER MOVING, GOING FORWARD, THEN IF THE SALES TAX THAT, IF THE PRICE IS DEFLATING OR GOING DOWN A LITTLE BIT, I SEE THAT PRICE GOING UP DOWN A LITTLE BIT, AT LEAST MYSELF ON SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I BUY.

UH, SO IF THAT CONTINUES TO HAPPEN, THAT MEANS SALES TAX IS GONNA ALSO GO DOWN, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO GO DOWN WHAT WE HAD LAST YEAR.

IT, IT'S NOT GOING TO GOING UP ANYMORE THE WAY IT HAS BEEN GOING UP.

SO THAT DELTA THAT YOU HAVE 7 MILLION, IT MIGHT NOT BE BIG IN THE FUTURE, IT WOULD BE SMALLER, BUT STILL YOUR NUMBER WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, PRETTY CONSERVATIVE NUMBERS.

I, I BELIEVE OUR NUMBER FOR 24 WAS STILL WOULD BE CLASSIFIED AS A CONSERVATIVE APPROACH.

IT, IT WAS DEFINITELY STRONGER THAN WHAT WE WERE THE YEAR PRIOR.

THERE WERE, THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS STILL COMING OUTTA THAT PANDEMIC THAT WE WEREN'T SURE OF.

UM, SO WE KIND OF DAMPENED IT PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, LAST YEAR THAN WE DID THIS YEAR.

BUT WE, WE DEFINITELY KEPT A, A CONSERVATIVE EYE ON, ON WHERE WE THINK SALES TAX IS GOING.

WE, WE, ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS WE DO IS ANY KIND OF, YOU KNOW, ONE TIME AUDIT ADJUSTMENT IMMEDIATELY COMES OUT OF ANY KIND OF PROJECTION.

AND THAT, THAT NUMBER DID HAVE ALMOST $2 MILLION WORTH OF, UH, OF AUDIT ADJUSTMENTS IN IT.

UH, SO THOSE WOULD BE CONSIDERED ONE TIME.

AND WE, WE DON'T TRY TO INFLATE ANY OF THAT.

SO IT IS SOMETHING THAT YEAH, WE'RE, WE'RE DEFINITELY MINDFUL OF THAT.

AND, UH, WE, WE DON'T SEE HAVING THAT KIND OF A SURPLUS IN OR EXCESS IN SALES TAX COLLECTION.

UH, BUT EACH YEAR WHEN WE DEVELOP THAT, THAT ASSUMPTION, WE BASE THAT ONTO THAT CONSERVATIVE ASSUMPTIONS.

NO, THAT'S GOOD.

I'M, I'M HAPPY TO SEE THAT WE ARE CATCHING UP WITH MANY OTHER STREET REPAIR AND, YOU KNOW, REHAB THAT'S WE CAN DO BECAUSE OF THIS ADDITIONAL FUND THAT WE FIND.

SO, UH, IT'S, UH, IT'S A, IT IS A GOOD PROBLEM TO HAVE.

UH, BOB, I WANT TO SAY, NOT JUST THANK YOU FOR, UH, A VERY DETAILED PRESENTATION AND EXECUTING ON IT FLAWLESSLY, BUT ALSO, UM, ALSO REALLY JUST SAY A GREAT JOB ON, UM, WELL, THE PROPERTY TAXES AND THE SALES TAX TELLS A REALLY INTERESTING STORY HERE, RIGHT? UH, YOUR PROJECTIONS ON THE PROPERTY TAXES WERE ALMOST EXACT.

I MEAN, IT'S LESS THAN HALF A PERCENT OFF, RIGHT? I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY GOOD, WOULD YOU SAY? SO? WELL, , OF COURSE, BUT, BUT THAT ONE, ONCE THE PROPERTY VALUES ARE SET MM-HMM, AND THE, UH, THE, THE TAX RATE IS SET, I MEAN, THAT ONE DOES KIND OF DELIVER ON ITS OWN, REALLY.

THAT'S PRETTY EASY.

NOT TAKE THE CREDIT TO DO.

BUT NO, JUST TAKE THE CREDIT.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS, WELL, I'M JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THE SALES TAX GOES, WE COULD PROBABLY ESTIMATE THAT PRETTY GOOD AS WELL.

BUT, AND I THINK WHAT THIS REALLY DOES, UM, IS, UH, CERTAINLY ILLUSTRATE FOR, FOR ME, UM, THE BENEFITS OF PURPOSELY BUDGETING SUBSTANTIALLY LESS THAN WE EXPECT IN, IN SOME, YOU COULD LOOK AT IT IN THAT WAY.

UM, SUBSTANTIALLY BUDGETING LESS THAN WE EXPECT ON THE SALES TAX, UH, BECAUSE OF ALL THE DIFFERENT OTHER THINGS THAT WE END UP USING IT ON.

AND I, I ONLY SAY THAT TO KNOW THAT I RAISED A LITTLE BIT OF A STINK DURING THIS BUDGETING PROCESS ABOUT BEING THAT CONSERVATIVE.

AND, UM, JUST FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, HAVING THIS AND SEEING IT IN ACTION WITH THIS BUDGET HAS REALLY HELPED ME UNDERSTAND, UM, WHY WE DO IT THAT WAY CONSISTENTLY, UH, AND, AND THE BENEFITS TO DOING IT THAT WAY.

WELL, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S REALLY JUST ON WHAT, IN MY OPINION, IT'S REALLY JUST ON WHAT END OF THE BUDGET PROCESS ARE WE USING THESE FUNDS FOR THESE ONE TIME NON-RECURRING, RIGHT? 'CAUSE IF WE WERE GOING TO BE MORE AGGRESSIVE IN BUDGETING IN OUR SALES TAX, UM, I WOULDN'T, I WOULDN'T, UH, I WOULDN'T WANT TO COME TO YOU AND ASSUME THAT THOSE WERE BEING USED FOR REOCCURRING COST.

USUALLY SOME OF THE FIRST THINGS ON THE LIST THAT YOU SEE, UH, RECOMMENDED ARE EITHER THINGS THAT ARE GONNA ALLOW US TO LET ISSUE LESS DEBT OR THEY'RE ONE-TIME PROJECTS THAT DIDN'T MAKE IT INTO THE BUDGET.

'CAUSE AS WE WE'VE SEEN SWINGS AS MUCH AS $5 MILLION NEGATIVE IN ONE YEAR, AND, AND, AND WHEN YOU'RE USING SALES TAX FOR REOCCURRING COST AND THAT HAPPENS, THEN LIKELY PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE LAID OFF.

AND WE DIDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT 'CAUSE OF THE PRUDENT WAY WE DO THIS.

BUT I GUESS MY POINT IS, IS IF AT THE END OF THE YEAR, THIS CONSERVATIVE APPROACH, IF IT NETS US A, UM, IF IT NETS US EXCESS REVENUE, WE ALWAYS COME BACK TO YOU.

AND

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AND SO, TO ME IT'S A, IT'S A MORE CONSERVATIVE, SAFER WAY OF HANDLING THAT ON THE BACK END.

UM, BECAUSE IF WE DO HAVE ONE OF THOSE GREAT SWING YEARS AND WE, WE SIGNIFICANTLY UNDERPERFORM, WE'RE NOT HURTING OR, OR TOUCHING ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE RECURRING IN NATURE.

AND SO I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS 'CAUSE THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.

WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COME BACK AND WE'RE MINDFUL OF ONE-TIME EXPENDITURES, MAYBE THAT HIT DIDN'T MAKE, MAKE IT INTO THE BUDGET, OR MAYBE WE'RE TRYING TO LEVERAGE OTHER FUNDING A LOT OF TIMES WITH THESE ONE-TIME EXPENDITURES AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY BECAUSE WE CAN TAKE SOME DOLLARS, UM, AND MATCH IT.

FOR INSTANCE, WITH COUNTY PRO, UH, THE SPRING VALLEY, UH, IS A, IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THAT, UH, THAT SITUATION.

UM, I THINK THAT KNOWING HOW, HOW CLOSE BOB, UH, MONITORS THIS AND, AND HAS HIS, HIS PULSE ON IT, IT GIVES ME A LOT OF COMFORT WITH THIS, THIS, UH, STRATEGY OF HANDLING THIS EXCESS ON THE, ON THE BACKEND, BUT MAKING SURE WE'RE DOING WITH IT THE SAME KIND OF GOOD WORK WE WOULD'VE DONE IF WE WOULD'VE BUDGETED IN THE FIRST PLACE.

RIGHT? EXACTLY.

THAT MAKES A HUNDRED PERCENT, THANK YOU, UH, SENSE.

SO, SO THANK YOU AND GOOD JOB MR. RE.

UM, I, I DON'T KNOW, BOB, I THINK YOU GOT PRETTY CLOSE TO HAVING AN INCREDIBLY EXCITING PRESENTATION TONIGHT, .

SO I, I'M, I GOTTA ARGUE WITH YOU ON THAT POINT LATER.

BUT BESIDES THAT, UM, I JUST WANNA SAY GREAT, GREAT JOB AND, AND BUDGET.

CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU AND TO KENT, THE ENTIRE FINANCE TEAM.

'CAUSE YOU KNOW, YOU'RE DEALING WITH A VERY COMPLEX BUDGET.

YOU'RE DEALING WITH A LOT OF FUNDS, YOU'RE DEALING WITH A LOT OF, OF VARIABLES AND, UH, DEALING WITH NUMBERS AND BUDGETS AND EVERYTHING.

AS MUCH AS I DO, I, I TAKE MY HAT OFF TO YOU FOR A GREAT, GREAT JOB.

AND I WOULD JUST, I WOULD JUST WANT TO PUT ON THE RECORD THAT I FULLY SUPPORT DON THE RECOMMEND TRANSFERS OUT AND WHERE YOU'RE PROPOSING TO EXPEND THE DOLLARS.

UM, MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO ME.

AND I THINK IT'S THINGS THAT WE NEED, NEED TO DO.

AND IT'S NICE TO BE ABLE TO GET THEM, GET THEM DONE, AND GET AHEAD OF TIME AND ESPECIALLY, UM, THE, THE, UM, THE CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE PROGRAM BECAUSE I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, ANYTIME WE CAN REDUCE THE NEED FOR FUTURE DEBT, THEN WE'RE SAVING ON INTEREST.

AND OVERALL THAT'S SAVING DOLLARS BACK TO THE CITY AND BACK TO OUR, TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF OUR RESIDENTS.

SO, UM, I, I 100% FULLY SUPPORT EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVE THAT Y'ALL COLLECTIVELY HAVE PUT ON HERE AND, AND SUPPORT.

SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.

I JUST WANNA ECHO WHAT COUNCILMAN HUTCHIN RE SAID.

GREAT JOB.

I ABSOLUTELY FULLY SUPPORT EVERYTHING YOU HAVE.

I THINK WHAT THE CITY DOES, UM, AND ON WHAT, WHAT Y'ALL DO AS FAR AS FROM STRATEGY, BEING CONSERVATIVE ON THE FRONT SIDE, AND THEN YOU HOPEFULLY HAVING A LITTLE EXTRA THE OF THE YEAR FOR SOME OF THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS.

I THINK IT'S THE WAY TO GO.

THANK YOU FOR CONTINUING TO, UH, UM, PROPERLY MANAGE THE, UM, MONEY THAT OUR CITIZENS, UM, YOU KNOW, PAY TOWARDS, I GUESS IS THE WAY OF SAYING IT.

BUT, UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

Y'ALL DID A GREAT JOB AND I THINK THIS, UH, THIS SHOWS THAT.

THANK YOU, DAN.

BOB, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

I'D LIKE TO JUST ADD A COUPLE THINGS AND ASK ONE QUESTION.

UM, NUMBER ONE, I THINK MOVING THE TWO WEEK CALENDAR TO WAIT FOR THE CERTIFIED VALUES, I THINK IS, MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.

IT, IT, IT IS KEEPING US IN STEP WITH BEING STRATEGIC AND CONSERVATIVE AT THE SAME TIME.

SO I THINK WE, BY HAVING THOSE NUMBERS, I THINK THAT WE COULD SUPPORT THAT AND WE'LL SUPPORT THAT AND LOOK FORWARD TO BEING ABLE TO SPREAD IT OUT A LITTLE BIT.

SO I THINK THAT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF ALL OUR, OF OUR CITIZENS.

I DO SUPPORT A HUNDRED PERCENT THAT WE KEEP THAT EXCESS IN THE GOLF FUND TO, BECAUSE OF THE COURSE TWO BEING SHUT DOWN.

I THINK THAT'S STRATEGIC AND CONSERVATIVE AT THE SAME TIME, AND IT FOLLOWS OUR PRINCIPLES OF WHAT WE'RE DOING.

SO I SUPPORT THAT.

MY ONE QUESTION IS, UM, CAN YOU SHARE WITH US, BOB, THE 619,000 TAB ON THE LATE FEES? WHAT KINDA LATE FEES ARE THOSE? AND ARE, IS IT, ESPECIALLY WITH A BUDGET LIKE WE HAVE THAT CAME IN STRONG, ARE, DO WE NEED TO CHARGE THE LATE FEES OR WHAT KIND OF LATE FEES ARE? THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

IS THIS A PRODUCT OF SOCIETY RIGHT NOW, OR PEOPLE WE'RE IN BAD SHAPE OR, SO I'M JUST ASKING AND DO WE NEED SOME LE LENIENCY AND MAYBE IN SOME OF THOSE IS ALL I'M ASKING.

UH, I MEAN, BECAUSE I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT LATE FEES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

FEE, WHICH, WHICH, UM, IN FEE INCREASED THE LATE FEE.

THESE LATE FEES ARE ON, UH, UH, WATER AND SEWER BILLS THAT ARE IN ARREARS.

MM-HMM.

UM, AND IT IS COMING THROUGH THE WATER FUND.

IT'S COLLECTED BY OUR WATER CUSTOMER SERVICE GROUP.

UM, I BELIEVE IT WAS FOUR YEARS AGO, WE INCREASED THE

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YEAH, OKAY.

WHICH IT, IT, IT IS CONTRIBUTING TO A LITTLE BIT OF THIS INCREASE.

UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S A CALCULATION OF, OF THE, THE LATE AMOUNT.

AND I, I THINK THE IMPORTANT POINT TO NOTE HERE IS THAT, UM, SO TO SAY, UM, A LOT OF THESE FEES ARE FROM FOLKS THAT HAVE ONGOING PROBLEMS, UM, BUT DON'T SEEK OUT HELP.

UM, KENT AND HIS TEAM HAVE FULL AUTHORITY TO WORK WITH HOMEOWNERS BUSINESSES, OTHERS THAT REACH OUT SOME OF THESE, UM, A, A GOOD PART, PART OF THESE FEES ARE FROM FOLKS THAT DON'T SEEK THAT HELP, BUT THAT HAVE REOCCURRING ISSUES.

UM, AND, UM, AND WE TRY TO YEAH, GOOD.

THAT'S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

YEAH, I MEAN, WE DO WORK WITH PEOPLE.

UM, TYPICALLY THEY WILL WAIVE A LATE FEE FOR A SENIOR CITIZEN OR SOMEONE THAT GENERALLY DOES NOT HAVE A LATE FEE.

UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT IS TYPICALLY, IT'S A TECHNIQUE FOR US TO TRY TO GET PEOPLE TO PAY.

AND I WILL SAY THIS JUST FOR PUBLIC RECORD, THAT I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT Y'ALL ARE VERY KIND AND VERY GENEROUS WHEN WORKING WITH PEOPLE THAT HAVE HAD, UH, WATER LEAKS.

UM, FINDING THE LEAK, HELPING THEM OR ADVISING THEM HOW TO FIND THE LEAK AND THEN GIVE, GIVING THEM MONEY BACK OR A CREDIT BACK WHEN THEY HAVE THOSE ISSUES.

SO IF PEOPLE ARE HAVING ISSUES, I GUESS MY RECOMMENDATION THEN IS THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE STRONG COMMUNICATION AND PEOPLE REACHING OUT SO THAT THOSE THINGS DON'T OCCUR.

SO.

IT'S A GREAT PRESENTATION.

IF THERE'S NO MORE QUESTIONS, BOB.

NOW WE'RE GOING TO GO TO ITEM F REVIEW AND DISCUSS POTHOLE REPAIR POLICY.

WE APPRECIATE THAT.

AND

[F. REVIEW AND DISCUSS POTHOLE REPAIR POLICY]

THANK YOU MAYOR.

MAYOR AND COUNSEL.

THIS IS ANOTHER ONE OF YOUR TACTICS, UH, THAT CAME OUT OF YOUR GOAL SETTING PROCESS.

UM, IT IS A VERY, VERY FAIR QUESTION, UH, FROM OUR RESIDENTS AND, AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS AS THEY DRIVE AROUND TOWN, AS TO WHY WE PUT ASPHALT DOWN IN SOME SITUATIONS AND WHY IT STAYS THERE LONGER IN SOME SITUATIONS.

AND SO OUR GOAL TONIGHT IS TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION FOR THE COMMUNITY AND HELP, UH, EMPOWER YOU TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT, UM, AND REALLY UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE SCIENCE.

'CAUSE IT IS REALLY A SCIENCE, UH, THAT GOES BEHIND MAKING THOSE DECISIONS.

SO ERIC, THANKS FOR HANGING AROUND.

UM, HE, HE WASN'T JUST HERE FOR THE BUDGET REPORT.

, UH, THANKS FOR HANGING AROUND TO, UH, PROVIDE THIS IMPORTANT BRIEFING, UH, TO, TO THE COUNCIL, CERTAINLY.

THANK YOU, MR. MAGER.

AND COUNCIL, IT'S GOOD TO, GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.

UH, IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME.

UM, JUST WANNA GO THROUGH OUR, JUST, JUST DISCUSS THE POTHOLE POLICY, UM, AGAINST, JOHN MENTIONED THAT IT IS A STRATEGIC GOAL AND IT IS A COUNCIL TACTIC TO DISCUSS THE POTHOLE REPAIR POLICY.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DO TONIGHT.

UM, WE WANNA JUST GIVE YOU SOME BACKGROUND, GIVE YOU SOME PERSPECTIVE, UM, TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR POTHOLE RESPONSE, TALK A LITTLE ABOUT OUR MAINTENANCE STRATEGIES, AND THEN SOME CURRENTLY FUNDED REPAIR PROGRAMS THAT ARE ALREADY IN PLACE TO KIND OF HELP US, YOU KNOW, RESOLVE SOME OF THESE ISSUES.

UM, SO A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND.

THIS IS THE LAST FIVE FISCAL YEARS, HOW MANY REQUESTS WE GET FOR POTHOLES, AND WE LUMP THESE TOGETHER, WHETHER YOU CALL AND SAY, I HAVE A POTHOLE, OR THERE'S A PAVEMENT ISSUE WE LUMP, THAT'S A ONE SERVICE REQUEST, UM, THAT WE WERE RESPOND TO.

UH, SO WE HAD 864 OF THOSE TYPE CALLS, UH, JUST, JUST LAST FISCAL YEAR, UH, REPORTING OPTIONS.

UM, HOW DO, HOW DO CITIZENS REACH OUT AND REPORT POTHOLES TO US? UM, THEY CAN CALL THE RESPONSE CENTER, WHICH IS A 24 HOUR, UH, 41 11 LINE.

UH, WE GET A LOT OF, UH, PILE REPORTS THROUGH THE MY RICHARDSON APP.

UH, WE HAVE AN ASK PUBLIC SERVICES@C.GOV.

THEY CAN REPORT THOSE TYPES OF ISSUES THROUGH THERE.

UH, OR JUST OUR WEBSITE.

WE'VE GOT MANY DIFFERENT EMAIL ADDRESSES OR WAYS TO REPORTING, UM, THOSE ISSUES THROUGH OUR WEBSITE.

UM, AND THEN ALL OF THOSE ARE SERVICE REQUESTS ARE GENERATED IN A CITY WORKS ASSET MANAGEMENT SYSTEM THAT TRACKS ALL OF OUR WORK.

UH, AND THEN THOSE CALLS ARE TRACKED BY THE STREET SUPERVISORS DURING THE, DURING THE DAY.

AND THEN IF THERE'S A NEED FOR AFTER HOURS, OUR ON-CALL PERSONNEL CAN BE DISPATCHED AFTER HOURS WEEKEND OR ON HOLIDAYS.

UH, SO THAT'S HOW WE KIND OF TAKE THOSE 800 AND SOME ODD REPORTS THAT WE RECEIVED LAST FISCAL YEAR.

YOU KNOW, THE PURPOSE OF A POT RESPONSE MAINTENANCE PROGRAM IS REALLY JUST RESPOND TO UNKNOWN AND UNSAFE CONDITIONS.

IT'S A VERY REACTIVE, UNPLANNED RESPONSE.

WE GET A CALL, WE HAVE TO GO OUT AND ASSESS WHAT IS THE ROAD CONDITION AND WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO WITH OUR PRIORITY BEING ON THAT RESPONSES, MAKING IT SAFETY FOR VEHICULAR AND PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC.

AND THAT'S OUR GOAL.

THAT IS OUR RESPONSE WHEN WE GET A POTHOLE CALL, UM, THEN WE LOOK INTO, NOW THAT WE'VE GOTTEN THE RESPONSE AND OUR PRIORITIES MAKING IT SAFE, THERE'S SEVERAL MAINTENANCE STRATEGIES THAT WE CAN DEPLOY.

AND I'LL GO THROUGH EACH ONE OF THOSE TO KIND OF GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THOSE LOOK LIKE.

UM, BUT AS DON SAID, THERE'S ALSO AN ASSESSMENT THAT TAKES PLACE.

THE, THE CREW'S THERE, THEY SEE WHAT'S GOING ON, AND THEY HAVE TO MAKE AN ASSESSMENT.

THE SUBGRADE TO FAIL, WHICH ULTIMATELY IS WHAT LED TO THE POTHOLE, RIGHT? SO WE, WE HAVE TO KIND OF MAKE, MAKE THAT MORE OF A PLANNED APPROACH.

SO WHAT ARE OTHER FACTORS CONSIDERED BY CREWS WHEN THEY DECIDE ON A, ON A MAINTENANCE STRATEGY? WELL, IT COULD BE THAT THERE'S A POTENTIAL FOR OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUES UNDERNEATH THE PAVEMENT, RIGHT? YOU, YOU, THERE'S A POTHOLE AND 10 FEET TO THE RIGHT, THERE'S A STORM INLET.

WELL, THERE'S A POTENTIAL FOR THAT LATERAL LINE, FOR THAT STORM INLET TO ALSO BE, HAVE A HOLE IN IT THAT'S CAUSING

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SO WE JUST, OUR INITIAL THING IS TO DO A MAINTENANCE STRATEGY TO MAKE IT SAFE.

UM, ALSO CREW CAPACITY.

DO WE HAVE CREWS ALL OVER THE CITY? DO I HAVE THE AVAILABILITY FOR CREWS TO COME IN AND DIG UP THE STREET AND SEE WHAT THOSE POTENTIAL INFRASTRUCTURES MIGHT BE, UH, TO MAKE THAT REPAIR OR GO BACK WITH CONCRETE? WE'VE, WE'VE GOTTA KIND OF GO THROUGH THIS ASSESSMENT, UM, FUNDING, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON WHAT INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUES MIGHT POTENTIALLY BE AROUND THIS POTHOLE.

DO WE HAVE THE FUNDING TO, TO MAKE A PERMANENT REPAIR WITH OUR CREWS, YOU KNOW, INTERNALLY.

UM, AND THEN MORE IMPORTANTLY IS, IS THE LOCATION WE'RE AT, IS IT ALREADY SLATED FOR MAINTENANCE OR CONCRETE REPAIRS, YOU KNOW, IN THE, IN THE NEAR FUTURE OR HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED? YOU KNOW, SO THIS, THIS SORT OF ORBIT OF ASSESSMENT, IF YOU WILL, KIND OF GOES ON, ON EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE POTHOLE CALLS, UM, THAT WE DEPLOY OUR MAINTENANCE STRATEGIES.

AND THEN AGAIN, I IDENTIFIED SOME FUNDED PROGRAMS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ZONE WORK, OUR ALLEY REPAIR PROGRAM, AND THEN OUR ANNUAL ARTERIAL AND COLLECTION REPAIRS.

UH, SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE PYRAMID FROM THE TIME WE GET THE CALL, IT'S KIND OF A REACTIVE, UNPLANNED WORK.

WE PROVIDE SOME MAINTENANCE STRATEGIES TO REALLY GET US TO A PLANNED, PROACTIVE APPROACH.

IT'S KIND OF HOW WE ASSESS EVERY POTHOLE.

UM, SO TO GIVE YOU SOME IDEA OF WHAT THOSE MAINTENANCE STRATEGIES ARE.

SO IT'S THE IMMEDIATE RESPONSE.

WE KEEP A STOCKPILE OF WHAT WE CALL COLD MIX.

IT'S A HIGH PERFORMANCE ASPHALT.

UM, THAT IS PRETTY TYPICAL FOR MOST CITIES THAT DO JUST IMMEDIATE RESPONSE.

I GET THE CALL, I'VE GOTTA DO SOMETHING TO MAKE THE ROAD SAFE AS THE CALL THAT CAME IN, RIGHT? SO IT'S A, YOU SEE A PRETTY STANDARD PICTURE HERE.

WE GET A POTHOLE CALL, WE GO OUT, WE, WE, WE PATCH THE POTHOLE.

UM, PRETTY STANDARD, LIKE I SAID, JUST TO REMOVE THE IMMEDIATE HAZARD.

ANOTHER MAINTENANCE STRATEGY IS WE HAVE HOT MIX REPAIR.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE ADHESIVE.

IT, WE, UM, IT'S IF YOU HAVE MULTIPLE ELEVATION CHANGE OR IF THE PAVEMENT HAS CRACKING AND YOU KNOW, YOU REALLY NEED TO KIND OF RAMP UP, LIKE RIGHT HERE, WE'RE RAMPING UP OVER A MANHOLE.

UM, IT'S, IT'S A BETTER MAINTENANCE STRATEGY THAN THAT HIGH PERFORMANCE COLD MIX.

UM, IT ADHERES TO THE PAVEMENT WITH AN ASPHALT TACK, AND THEN IT'S A HOT MIX ASPHALT THAT THEN THAT'S ROLLED OVER WITH A VIBRATORY COMPACTOR OR, UH, A WALK-BEHIND COMPACTOR, UH, FOR THE HOT MIX ASPHALT REPAIR.

UM, I DID SOME RESEARCH ON THIS PARTICULAR PICTURE TO KIND OF ALLUDE TO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

THIS IS ACTUALLY ON RENTER ROAD.

SO WE'VE DONE THIS REPAIR RECENTLY, OR RENTER ROAD, AS YOU'LL SEE, IS ALREADY, IT'S, IT'S KIND OF SLATED FOR SOME WORK TO BE DONE IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

UM, SO RIGHT NOW THIS WOULD BE OUR STRATEGY.

ERIC, LET ME ASK ONE QUESTION.

GOING BACK TO RENTER ROAD, HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE YOU TO REPAIR THAT, TO DO THAT JOB RIGHT THERE? JUST THE ASPHALT PATCH.

YOU JUST PATCHED THAT ONE RIGHT THERE? YES.

AND THEN WE CAN LET TRAFFIC JUST MAYBE TWO HOURS.

GIMME, GIMME TWO HOURS.

'CAUSE WE PROBABLY WANNA LET IT COOL DOWN BEFORE WE LET TRAFFIC ON IT.

WE LAY THAT HOT, HOT HAT, HOT ASPHALT, CLOSE TO THREE, 400 DEGREES.

UM, SO IF YOU LET TRAFFIC ON IT TOO QUICKLY, IT'LL PULL IT BACK UP.

SO IT'LL DEFEAT THE PURPOSE OF THE, OF THE PERFORMANCE.

SO TWO HOURS GENERALLY TO LET TRAFFIC ON IT.

THIS IS A MORE MILLING AND PATCHING.

THIS IS ONE THAT WE, IT'S KIND OF MORE OF AN INVASIVE PROCESS.

UH, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A MILLER THAT ATTACHES TO THE FRONT OF OUR SKID STEER, AND THEY CAN GRIND UP THE PAVEMENT THAT TYPICALLY GO DOWN ABOUT TWO INCHES.

UM, THEY'LL GRIND UP THE PAVEMENT AND THEN THEY CAN GO BACK WITH A HOT MIX ASPHALT.

AND THIS ONE, THEY CAN, THEY CAN GENERALLY LEVEL UP WITH THE PAVEMENT.

AND YOU CAN SEE THE PICTURES HERE.

UH, IT DOES A MUCH BETTER JOB, I WOULD SAY.

THIS IS AN APPLICATION WHERE WE'VE, AS YOU'VE BEEN TO A LOCATION MULTIPLE TIMES, AND THAT REPAIR STRATEGY'S NOT GIVING IT THE, A SOUND TEMPORARY REPAIR, IF YOU WILL.

SO THIS IS KIND OF A MORE INVASIVE WAY TO USE ASPHALT AS A MAINTENANCE STRATEGY TO AGAIN, BRIDGE THE GAP TILL WE GET TO A MORE PLANNED APPROACH.

AND THEN WE HAVE FULL DEPTH REPAIR.

THERE ARE TIMES WHERE WE GET CALLED IN AND RESPONDING.

THERE'S REALLY NOT A LOT OF OPTIONS.

WE'VE EITHER BEEN THERE MULTIPLE TIMES, OR THE ROAD IS JUST IN HORRIBLE CONDITION.

UM, THIS IS AN ALLEY.

UM, THAT'S OBVIOUSLY, WE'VE BEEN THERE MULTIPLE TIMES.

IT'S ROLLED UP.

THERE'S HOLDING WATER, JUST NOT A WHOLE LOT OF OPTIONS WE CAN DO HERE WITH ASPHALT.

SO REGARDLESS IF IT'S A PROACTIVE APPROACH HAS ALREADY BEEN PLANNED OR A STRATEGY OR NOT, IT'S NOT REALLY SAFE FOR TRAFFIC.

SO WE'LL REMOVE THE PAVEMENT AND WE'LL DO A FULL DEPTH CONCRETE REPAIR, UM, AND MOVE ON.

THAT'S, THIS IS JUST ONE THAT, IT'S KIND, KIND OF A, YOU KNOW, HAZARDOUS WORST CASE SCENARIO.

UM, I'LL ADD THAT WE'LL DO FULL, WE DID FULL DEPTH CONCRETE IN THIS POSITION, BUT WE HAVE SOME ALLEYS THAT ARE, THEY'RE SLATED FOR RECONSTRUCTION, LET'S SAY.

UM, AND WE NEED TO RIG IT OUT.

INSTEAD OF SPENDING THE MONEY ON CONCRETE, WE'LL COMPACT THE SUBGRADE AND WE'LL EVEN USE ASPHALT TO DO A FULL DEPTH.

SO FULL DEPTH DOESN'T HAVE TO BE CONCRETE.

REALLY KIND OF GOES BACK TO, YOU KNOW, HOW LONG DOES THIS HAVE TO MAINTAIN A SAFE ROADWAY UNTIL WE CAN GET THERE TO DO THAT PLANNED APPROACH.

MORE PROACTIVE, UH, FULL DEPTH REPAIR.

UM, SOME CURRENTLY FUNDED STRATEGY I MENTIONED.

WE HAVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD ZONE REPAIRS.

THAT'S WHERE, UH, THE CITY WAS ZONED OUT IN 31.

DIFFERENT ZONES, I BELIEVE WE'RE, WE DID ZONED 24 LAST YEAR.

UH, MAYBE DOING 25 THIS YEAR.

WE'RE IN THAT TIMEFRAME.

UM, SO A CONTRACTOR COMES INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND THEY PERFORM CONCRETE REPAIRS ON OUR NEIGHBORHOOD

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STREETS.

SO THEY'RE LOOKING FOR ASPHALT PATCHES, DEFECTIVE PAVEMENT, AND THEY'LL DO A LOCALIZED CONCRETE REPAIR TO IMPROVE THAT STREET.

SO PUBLIC SERVICES, MY GUYS, THEY'LL GO OUT AND ASSESS THOSE ZONES THAT WE'VE ALREADY COMPLETED.

WE DO THAT TWICE A YEAR.

SO WE IDENTIFY WHERE WE'VE HAD TO PUT ASPHALT DOWN BECAUSE ALTHOUGH WE'VE DONE CONCRETE WORK ON THESE NEIGHBORHOOD ZONES, IT'S ALSO DETERIORATED INFRASTRUCTURE.

WE'RE NOT REPLACING IT.

SO THERE'S GONNA BE POTENTIAL FOR DEFECTIVE PAYMENTS THAT WE RECEIVE CALLS ON, THAT WE THEN HAVE TO PLACE ASPHALT TO MAKE IT SAFE FOR TRAFFIC.

BUT OUR PLAN IS TO ASSESS THOSE ZONES WE'VE ALREADY COMPLETED TWICE A YEAR, PUT A WORK PLAN TOGETHER AND SCHEDULE THOSE REPAIRS EITHER INTERNALLY OR BY USE OF A CONTRACTOR.

UH, SO WE DO THAT CURRENTLY TWICE A YEAR.

UH, WE HAVE THE ALLEY REPAIR PROGRAM, WHICH IS A FUNDED PROGRAM THAT IS A CONTRACTOR GOES AND PERFORMS LOCALIZED CONCRETE REPAIRS AND ALLEYS.

UM, THIS LIST ACTUALLY ORIGINATED FROM EITHER MULTIPLE ASPHALT MAINTENANCE ACTIVITIES, UM, IN DECENT ALLEYS, BUT WE'RE CONSTANTLY IN ONE LOCATION.

UM, OR JUST CITIZEN COMPLAINTS.

WE JUST GET A LOT OF CALLS AND QUESTIONS.

SO, AND WHEN THIS ALLEY PROGRAM WAS, WAS, WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL AND FUNDED, IT WAS GENERALLY TO CAPTURE THESE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, WHERE WE'RE JUST HABITUALLY GOING BACK AND REPAIRING.

UM, AND THEN JUST OUR ANNUAL ARTERIAL AND COLLECTOR REPAIRS, YOU KNOW, THE CAPITAL PROJECTS WILL, WILL GO OUT AND ASSESS AND, AND IDENTIFY WHICH, WHICH ARTERIALS AND WHICH COLLECTORS WE'RE GONNA DO CONCRETE REPAIRS IN EITHER DUE TO ASPHALT PATCHES OR OTHER PAVEMENT DEFECTS.

UH, THAT REALLY JUST REQUIRES THAT ATTENTION FROM A MAINTENANCE PERSPECTIVE.

UM, AND I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT, YOU KNOW, ALL THESE CURRENT MAINTENANCE INITIATIVES CAN BE VIEWED ON OUR WEBSITE.

IT'S THEIR INTERACTIVE GIS WEBSITE.

UM, SO YOU CAN GO TO THE WEBSITE, YOU CAN TURN ON, YOU KNOW, ALLEYS, STREETS COLLECTORS, AND YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE WHERE WE'RE PERFORMING OR WHERE WE'VE SCHEDULED MAINTENANCE.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON, IF YOU SEE AN ASPHALT PATCH AND YOU WANT TO KNOW IS THERE PLAN PROGRAM FOR THAT PARTICULAR AREA, YOU CAN GO ON OUR WEBSITE AND LOOK, UM, I ACTUALLY PULLED THIS MAP FROM OUR WEBSITE.

UM, THE LEGEND LOOKS A LITTLE DIFFERENT 'CAUSE I WANTED TO MAKE IT APPROPRIATE FOR THE PRESENTATION, BUT AS YOU SEE UP THERE, THAT PURPLISH COLOR, THAT'S RENTER ROAD.

SO THAT'S HOW I COULD CORRELATE THE TWO, THE PICTURES I SHOWED YOU EARLIER, THE MAINTENANCE PLAN THAT'S ALREADY THERE.

SO IF YOU HAPPEN TO SEE THAT PATCH ON RENNER ROAD AS YOU DRIVE BY IT, IF YOU WERE JUST CURIOUS, YOU'D GO TO OUR WEBSITE, PULL UP THE INTERACTIVE MAP AND SAY, YEAH, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST WITHIN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR OR SO, REPAIRS SHOULD BE PERFORMED IN THAT AREA.

UM, SO IT COULD BE A USEFUL TOOL IF, IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THOSE.

UM, SO IN IN SUMMARY, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC SERVICES RESPONDS TO A LOT OF POTHOLE REQUESTS, UM, THAT PERFORM MULTIPLE REPAIR STRATEGIES BASED ON DIFFERENT SITUATIONS.

YOU KNOW, AN INITIAL ASSESSMENT IS PERFORMED BY STAFF AND THEN DISCUSS THROUGH THE SUPERVISORS ON WHICH, WHICH DIRECTION WE NEED TO GO.

UM, THE REPAIRS ARE SUPPLEMENTED BY CURRENTLY THE NEIGHBORHOOD ZONES ALLEY REPAIR PROGRAM, THE AIR, THE ANNUAL ARTERIAL AND COLLECTOR.

I MEAN, IT'S NOT A MAINTENANCE PROGRAM, BUT BOND PROGRAMS CERTAINLY SUPPORT THAT AS WELL AS THOSE GET PASSED AND WORK GETS IDENTIFIED.

UM, AND THEN, AND THEN WE WORK WITH CAPITAL PROJECTS, YOU KNOW, EVERY YEAR, UH, TO REVIEW THE FIVE YEAR CAPITAL PLAN AND SEE IF WE NEED TO UPDATE OUR MAINTENANCE PLAN ACCORDINGLY BASED ON THE MAINTENANCE INITIATIVES THAT WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN PERFORMING.

ANY QUESTIONS, MR. COR GROUP? THANK YOU.

UH, MY ONLY QUESTION, ERIC, IS ON THE POTHOLE SERVICE REQUESTS RECEIVES, RECEIVED SLIDE AT THE VERY BEGINNING.

UM, AND I MIGHT HAVE MISSED THIS IF YOU SAID IT, SO I APOLOGIZE IF I DID.

UH, DO WE HAVE ANY DATA ON HOW MANY ARE FULFILLED? MEANING HOW MANY DO WE ACTUALLY RESPOND TO AND DO SOME TYPE OF MAINTENANCE STRATEGY? YES, EVERY ONE OF 'EM.

THAT WAS MY EXPERIENCE.

THANK YOU MR. DORIAN.

YOU KNOW, IF YOU WERE DOING A, UH, IF YOU HAD A SLAB THAT WAS NOT LEVEL, UH, YOU WOULD UTILIZE THAT TO FILL IT IN AND SELF LEVEL BEFORE YOU APPLY SOME OTHER TYPE OF SUBSTRATE OR MATERIAL ON TOP OF THAT.

UM, ERIC, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

I, I, UM, I APPRECIATE Y'ALL GETTING OUT THERE AND GETTING THESE POTHOLES UNDER CONTROL BECAUSE HONESTLY, I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE NUMBER ONE THINGS I HEAR ABOUT ARE POTHOLES, STREET REPAIR, ALLEY REPAIR, AND, AND THEN HONESTLY, YOU KNOW, SINCE WE LIVE IN A, WE'RE HAVE AN OLDER, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE, IT'S AN ONGOING REPAIR PROCESS THROUGHOUT THE CITY, WHETHER IT'S YOUR SAW CUTTING THE CONCRETE AND REPAIRING A SECTION AND OR FILLING OF THE POTHOLES.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO MENTION, I'VE DONE A LITTLE RESEARCH RECENTLY ON, UH, SOME NEW MATERIAL THAT MIGHT THE CITY MIGHT BE, UH, OR CONSIDER LOOKING AT, UH, A LOT OF THE COMPLAINTS THAT I GET FROM MY CONSTITUENTS AND SOME OF THE, UH, STAKEHOLDERS IS THE ONE, THE ASPHALT IS NOT SUSTAINABLE.

UM, IT USUALLY, YOU KNOW, IT, IT ROLLS UP AS YOU'RE DRIVING ON IT.

UH, YOUR, YOUR, YOUR CAR TIRES ARE DRAWN UP AND, AND ALSO IT DISCOLOR THE CONCRETE.

SO I'VE DONE A LITTLE RESEARCH ON A COMPANY, AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE MET THEM AT THE, UH, UH, THE TML UH, EVENT.

AND I THINK IT'S WORTH LOOKING INTO, IT'S A SYNTHETIC MATERIAL THAT LITERALLY, IT'S ALMOST SORT OF LIKE SELF-LEVELING.

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IT WORKS VERY SIMILAR.

NOW, I HAVE NOT TESTED THIS.

UM, I KNOW THEY JUST DID A PROJECT IN GRAND PRAIRIE, WHICH, UM, UM, I KNOW GRAND PRAIRIE CITY, THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE HIRED THEM TO DO SOME STREETS.

IT'D BE WORTH LOOKING AT IT BECAUSE FOR ONE, WHEN YOU UTILIZE IT, UM, IT IS THE SAME COLOR AS THE CONCRETE.

SO IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE A PATCH.

AND LITERALLY YOU CAN GO, YOU CAN APPLY THIS TO A SUBSTRATE, A CONCRETE SUBSTRATE, OR, AND NOT EVEN HAVE TO PREFILL THE HOLE.

SO IT FILLS THE HOLE.

IT, IT'S ALMOST LIKE A THIN SET LAYER, AND IT HARDENS AND SUPPOSEDLY IT HAS UP TO A 20 YEAR, UM, UH, WARRANTY.

SO IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING, UH, TO CONSIDER.

ONE, IT DRIES VERY QUICKLY.

IT'S SUPPO, IT'S, IT'S, UH, IT'S, IT HAS A LITTLE BIT OF RESILIENCY AND, UH, IT'S, IT'S COLOR FAST.

SO I, I AM SAYING THIS BECAUSE I THINK THESE ARE THINGS THAT PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT, AND, UH, AN ASPHALT HOLE DOESN'T LAST AS LONG, AND THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING TO LOOK AT THAT MIGHT BE MORE SUSTAINABLE.

UM, I'M HAPPY TO PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION IF WE CAN.

YEAH, THAT'D BE GREAT.

BUT WE ALSO KNOW THE FOLKS AT GRAND PRAIRIE, SO I COULD CERTAINLY REACH OUT AND SEE WHAT, WHAT, BE NICE, WHAT PROJECT IS AND SEE WHAT THEIR SUCCESS RATES HAVE BEEN.

YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

BUT, BUT AGAIN, I, I, WE'RE USING WHAT MATERIALS WE HAVE AVAILABLE, BUT TECHNOLOGY IS CHANGING THIS GREATLY, AND I THINK IT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE DID LOOK FORWARD TO.

CERTAINLY.

THANK YOU MAYOR PRO, TIM CHU.

THANK YOU MR. MAYOR, AND THANKS FOR PRESENTING THIS, UH, IMPORTANT THING THAT WE GET QUESTIONS SO MANY TIMES.

UH, YOU KNOW, AND AGAIN, I KNOW THAT CITY IS DOING GREAT JOB MAINTAINING THE STREET.

UH, IT'S PRETTY OLD CITY, SO WE ARE, WE HAVE POTHOLES EVERYWHERE.

UH, UNFORTUNATELY THAT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT WE CAN CHANGE QUICKLY.

UH, BUT WITH THIS NUMBER, THAT 864 THAT YOU HAVE THINGS, SO THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT THEY COMPLAINED.

SOMEONE PUT THAT ON THE REQUEST.

UH, AND NOT NECESSARILY ALL THE, YOU KNOW, REQUEST HAS BEEN TAKEN CARE LIKE PERMANENTLY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE PORTAL IS NOT BECAUSE OF THE STREET.

IT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING BELOW THE STREET, LIKE THE WATER SEW LEAK OR THE STORM DRAIN.

UH, THESE ARE THE THINGS.

SO EVEN WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, HAVING, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF YOU REPAIR THAT POTHOLE, YOU'RE GONNA SEE THAT THINGS SINKING PRETTY SOON.

SO I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, SAY THAT, YOU KNOW WHAT, YEAH, THEY CAN, BUT IT'S NOT FIXED.

SO THIS, THIS IS NOT, THIS IS UNAVOIDABLE.

THIS, THIS WILL HAPPEN.

SO EMERGENCY, YOU KNOW, ASPHALT IS THE BEST WAY TO DO EMERGENCY REPAIR.

SO BECAUSE THOSE ARE NOT MEANT TO BE PERMANENT REPAIR BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO REPAIR UNDER GROUND, YOU KNOW, TO GET IT FIXED.

UH, SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, IF THE BASE UNDER THE ASPHALT BREAKDOWN BECAUSE OF OTHER THINGS, THE ASPHALT WILL SINK.

AND SO THIS, YOU KNOW, I, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOOD TO HAVE THIS CLEAR UNDERSTANDING HOW THINGS ARE HAPPENING, WHAT YOU HAVE EXPLAINED, UH, WHY THIS THING ARE IMPORTANT AND WHAT WHAT YOU DO.

UH, I THINK HAVING AND HAVING SOME OF THE PICTURE OUT THERE, IT HELPS TO SEE WHAT EXACTLY IS GOING ON.

SO EVEN YOU HAVE, IF YOU HAVE SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, CONSTRUCTION RECONSTRUCTION, SOME OF THE STREET, IF YOU HAVE SOME, I KNOW THAT WE HAVE OPEN HOUSE RECENTLY, SOME OF THE PROJECTS.

SO DURING SOME OPEN HOUSE, IF YOU EXPLAIN THAT DURING PRECON, DURING CONSTRUCTION, WHAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE EXACTLY, SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE TEMPORARY WATER SERVICE RUNNING ALONG THE STREET SHOWING THE PICTURE THAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE THIS THING RUNNING.

SO THEY'LL KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING ON.

SO THIS IS REALLY RIGHT THING, GOOD, GREAT THINGS SHOWING PICTURES.

THIS IS THE PROCESS.

PICTURE SPEAKS MUCH BETTER THAN THE WORD BECAUSE PEOPLE SEE THE PICTURE AND THAT'S WHAT STICK IN THEIR MIND.

SO, UH, NOW THIS IS GREAT AND UH, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN DO THE CONCRETE PAVEMENT REPAIR WITH, AGAIN, YOU KNOW THAT WITH THE CONCRETE, WITH THE CONCRETE.

SO THAT REMAINS SOMETIMES CONCRETE BREAKS BECAUSE OF, NOT NECESSARILY, UH, BECAUSE OF UNDERGROUND UTILITIES.

IT COULD HAPPEN FOR OTHER REGION, BUT WITH MINOR CONCRETE CRACK, IT EASILY EXPAND, YOU KNOW, MORE BECAUSE WATER GOES UNDERGROUND AND THEN IT BREAKS.

SO I THINK THIS IS GREAT.

I THINK PRESENTATION WAS GOOD.

UM, UH, NOW I THINK WE HAVE LITTLE, AT LEAST I HAVE A LITTLE MORE UNDERSTANDING.

NO ADDITIONAL COMMENTS,

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ERIC.

THIS TIME WE'RE GO, WE WILL GO TO ITEM G REPORT ON ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST COUNSEL, MR. DORIAN.

GREAT PRESENTATION.

HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO YOU.

YOU TOO.

APPRECIATE YOU.

[G. REPORT ON ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST]

OH, THANK YOU.

UM, WE HAD QUITE A FEW EVENTS THIS WEEK, BUT ONE I WANTED TO, UM, MENTION THAT I THOROUGHLY ENJOYED WAS GOING ON THE TOUR FOR THE PGA, UM, UH, WAS JOINED BY, UM, SEVERAL COUNCIL MEMBERS AND, AND OUR MAYOR AND DON, OUR CITY MANAGER.

UM, BUT I HAVE TO TELL YOU, I WAS VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE FACILITY AND, AND ONE, UH, BEING IN THE ARCHITECTURAL WORLD, I WAS VERY IMPRESSED BY THE DESIGN AND THE MATERIAL USES, UH, OF THE BUILDING.

AND THE COURSE WAS BEAUTIFUL, AND, UH, THEY JUST DID A REALLY PHENOMENAL JOB AND I ACTUALLY LEARNED A LOT WHILE I WAS THERE.

SO I JUST WANNA SAY, UM, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO GO THERE.

IT WAS, IT WAS FUN.

THANK YOU MR. BARRIOS.

UM, LAST THERE, THERE WERE QUITE A FEW THINGS.

THIS SPEAK, IT'S A BUSY MONTH.

LAST THURSDAY, UH, YOU AND I ATTENDED THE BOY, BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB OF RICHON HOLIDAY PARTY.

UM, A LOT OF OUR CITY STAFF IS NOT ONLY ARE THEY LEADERS, UH, AND THEIR CAREERS HERE WITH THE CITY, BUT IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND OUR ASSISTANT CHIEF OF POLICE, UH, KOBE EWT, UH, DR.

COBY EWT.

HE, UH, HE IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE, UM, BOARD OF DIRECTORS OVER THERE AT THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB OFF OF BELTLINE AND, UH, I THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND A LOT OF STUFF, UH, AS PART OF THE COUNCIL.

BUT THAT WAS MY FAVORITE EVENT THIS MONTH, I THINK.

AND IT WAS DEFINITELY BEEN ONE OF MY PERSONAL FAVORITE EVENTS SINCE HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO JOIN THE COUNCIL LAST SPRING.

UH, IT MEANT A LOT TO ME PERSONALLY AS A KID.

I WAS A MEMBER OF, I WAS A CLUB KID, AS THEY CALL 'EM, UH, AND BOYS CLUB, GIRLS CLUB DOWN IN BROWNSVILLE, TEXAS WHERE I GREW UP.

UM, AND SEEING THOSE KIDS AND SEEING THE WORK THAT SO MANY PEOPLE PUT IN, UH, STATE FARM WAS ONE OF THE SPONSORS OF THE EVENT.

AND IT JUST REALLY TOUCHED MY HEART.

AND, UH, IT REMINDED ME OF ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I RAN AND IT FOR, FOR OFFICE, AND IT JUST, I ABSOLUTELY LOVED IT.

SO MY HAT OFF TO, UH, ASSISTANT CHIEF T TO ALL THOSE INVOLVED OVER AT THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB, THEY'RE DOING A GREAT JOB WITH SOME MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY AND THEY'RE MAKING A DIFFERENCE IN KIDS' LIVES.

AND, UH, THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT.

IT'S, YOU KNOW, AS A FORMER KOSHER, THERE'S NOT A LOT BETTER THINGS YOU CAN DO THAN DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK IN THE KIDS' LIVES LIKE THEY DO.

THANK YOU, MR. CORCORAN.

THEY'RE LOOKING FOR VOLUNTEERS.

UH, IT'S NEVER, THIS IS THE THING I'M ABOUT TO MENTION IS FORWARD LOOKING.

IT'S ABOUT A MONTH AWAY, BUT, UM, GIVEN THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO BE OFF FOR A COUPLE WEEKS, IT'S NOT TO REALLY TO MENTION IT AND GET ON PEOPLE'S CALENDARS, AND THAT'S THE 2024 POINT IN TIME COUNT OR PIT COUNT, UM, FROM HOUSING FORWARD.

IT IS THE, IT'S ON JANUARY 25TH, AND IT'S, UM, REALLY LIKE THE ONE TIME OF THE YEAR THAT, UH, THE COMMUNITY GOES OUT AND COUNTS THE HOMELESS POPULATION IN BOTH DALLAS AND COLLIN COUNTIES.

SO EVERYONE LISTENING, UM, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN VOLUNTEERING ON, YOU CAN GET ON YOUR CALENDAR NOW.

THANK YOU, MR. HUTCHER.

I'LL DO IT.

UM, ALL OF THE STUDENTS, AND ESPECIALLY DR. AMY KING, UM, WHO WE ALL KNOW AND HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH ON A, ON A FANTASTIC GRADUATION.

UM, FOUR THINGS, JUST REAL QUICKLY.

NUMBER ONE IS I JUST WANT TO GIVE A REAL SHOUT OUT.

WE, WE KIND OF GLOSSED OVER IT WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THE BUDGET PRESENTATION, BUT ON TUESDAY EVENING, THERE WAS A, UM, A GREAT PERFORMANCE BY LONE STAR, UM, THAT ELLIE HAMLIN AND PHIL AND THE REST OF THE TEAM OVER THERE BROUGHT IN AND IT KIND OF WENT BY THE WAYSIDE.

BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE UP QUITE A BIT IN REVENUE OVERALL FROM THE EISMAN, AND THAT'S A DIRECT REFLECTION ON, ON ALLIE, PHIL AND THE ENTIRE TEAM OVER AT THE EMAN.

AND SO, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT THE CONCERT WAS INCREDIBLE.

WE, WE'VE ALL BEEN TO SO MANY CONCERTS AND USUALLY, UH, GROUPS WANNA START PLAYING THEIR NEW, NEW MUSIC LONE STAR.

THEY START OUT WITH CHRISTMAS MUSIC, THEN THEY PLAYED ALL OF THEIR NUMBER ONE HITS THAT THEY HAD, WHICH WAS 10 OF THEM, AND THEN THEY ENDED IT WITH CHRISTMAS MUSIC.

THAT WAS EACH OF THEIR FAVORITES.

UM, AND IT WAS IF, IF YOU WERE THERE, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? IT WAS ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE.

UM, ABSOLUTELY LOVED IT.

SECOND THING IS I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REPRESENT BOTH, UM, FROM MY, FROM MY PROFESSIONAL LIFE, BUT ALSO CITY COUNCIL AT WEST COAST UNIVERSITY.

I WAS THE KEYNOTE SPEAKER ON THURSDAY EVENING, AND THERE WERE 188 STUDENTS THAT GRADUATED.

AND WHAT AN ASSET WE HAVE IN RICHARDSON, UM, BEING WE WEST COAST, UM, UNIVERSITY.

SO HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET THE, THE, THE, THE EXECUTIVES FROM THAT ACTUALLY FLEW IN FROM THE WEST COAST, UM, FOR THE, FOR THE GRADUATION.

AND, AND, UM, JUST WANT TO CELEBRATE AND CONGRATULATE,

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AND THE KEYNOTE NOTE, SPEAK SPEECH WASN'T BAD EITHER, BUT ANYWAY, UM, I'M KIDDING ON THE LAST PART.

UM, THIRD, I JUST WANNA SAY A HUGE THANK YOU TO OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY, UM, TO WORK VERY COLLABORATIVELY WITH THEM ON A SITUATION THAT OCCURRED LAST WEEK.

UM, AND I'M, I JUST, THE, THE, THE LEVEL OF RESPONSE, THE LEVEL OF PROFESSIONALISM, THE COOPERATION WORKING TOGETHER WITH, WITH, UM, CHIEF TITTLE AND THE ENTIRE TEAM, IT'S AMAZING.

UM, AND I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU FROM, FROM, FROM, UH, MY FACILITY'S ENTIRE AND BOTTOM OF OUR HEARTS, UM, BECAUSE IT WAS, IT WAS SO WELL DONE.

AND THEN LASTLY, I WANNA BRING UP SOMETHING AND I'M JUST GONNA DO IT.

UM, MAYOR, I WANNA THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THROWING IN THE MAYOR'S PARTY LAST WEEK.

I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT WANTED TO TAKE POT SHOTS AT IT, BUT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT FOR JUST A MOMENT.

I WANNA SAY, NUMBER ONE, THE PARTY WAS HELD RIGHT HERE IN THIS ROOM, SO IT WAS EXTREMELY MODEST.

UM, THE FOOD THAT WAS SERVED WAS MODEST.

THE BEVERAGES WERE DONATED.

I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT POINT FOR EVERYBODY TO KNOW, IS THAT THE BEVERAGES WERE DONATED, TOYS WERE COLLECTED, AND TO COUNCILMAN BAR'S POINT, UM, TOYS THAT WERE COLLECTED WERE GIVEN TO BOYS, BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB, AND TO THE YMCA.

AND SO WE MADE A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE, A WHOLE LOT OF CHILDREN'S, UM, CHRISTMASES, MUCH BRIGHTER, THANKS TO YOU PUTTING ON THAT MAYOR'S PARTY, UM, IN THE CITY DOING IT.

IT GAVE US COLLECTIVELY THE OPPORTUNITY TO THANK AND TO INTERACT WITH MANY, MANY DIFFERENT PERSONS AND ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE WORK WITH AND WE RELY ON, ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS.

UM, AND SO I WAS VERY PROUD TO ATTEND IT, AND I JUST WANTED TO GET THAT OUT ON THE RECORD BECAUSE I'M KIND OF TIRED AT THE CHIEF SHOTS GOING OUT THERE FROM PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT, DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PARTY WAS ABOUT, DIDN'T ATTEND IT, WEREN'T INVITED, AND ALL THEY WANNA DO IS TAKE POT SHOTS.

AND I'M JUST TIRED OF IT.

AND SO I JUST, JUST WANTED TO PUT IT OUT ON THE RECORD.

AND I WANTED TO PERSONALLY AND PROFESSIONALLY SAY THANK YOU TO YOU BECAUSE I THINK IT WAS EXTREMELY WELL DONE.

IT WAS VERY, VERY MODEST, AND I THINK IT WAS VERY, VERY APPROPRIATE IN THIS HOLIDAY SEASON.

SO CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU, TO THE ENTIRE TEAM.

THE DECORATIONS WERE PHENOMENAL, AND AGAIN, WE'RE EXTREMELY MODEST DONE RIGHT HERE IN THIS ROOM.

AND SO, UM, I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.

AND, UM, NOW HAPPY HOLIDAYS.

MERRY CHRISTMAS, HAPPY NEW YEAR, HAPPY HANUKKAH, HAPPY EVERY OTHER HAPPY CELEBRATION.

AND, UM, BUT I JUST WANTED TO GET THAT ON THE RECORD.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND HAPPY HOLIDAYS.

THANK YOU, SIR.

MS. JUSTICE, IT'S ON THE RECORD.

UM, I WANNA ECHO COUNCILMAN, UH, DORIAN'S COMMENTS ABOUT THE PGA.

WHAT WAS ESPECIALLY EXCITING ABOUT IT WAS TO BE THERE WITH RONNIE GLANTON, WHO THERE IS A PUTTING GREEN COURSE, UH, GEARED TOWARDS CHILDREN NAMED THE RONNIE AFTER OUR GOLF PRO AT CHERYL PARK.

I MEAN, IT'S SO COOL.

THIS IS THE WORLD HEADQUARTERS OF THE PGA.

IT'S PRETTY, PRETTY INCREDIBLE TO HAVE THAT HONOR AND TO BE THERE WITH HIM.

IT WAS A REALLY RAINY DAY, SO WE DIDN'T GET OUT THERE TO REALLY APPRECIATE IT AS MUCH AS WE WANTED TO, BUT IT WAS A REALLY, REALLY NEAT EXPERIENCE TO BE THERE, UM, AND SEE THAT HONOR THAT HAD BEEN BESTOWED ON HIM.

UM, AND THEN JUST, UM, FORWARD LOOKING, I WANNA SAY, UH, AND LOOKING BACK ALSO, THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO PUT ON SANTA'S VILLAGE.

IT ENDED THIS WEEKEND.

UM, BUT THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY, IF YOU WANNA APPRECIATE THE HOLIDAY LIGHTS, THOSE ARE GONNA BE UP FOR A FEW MORE DAYS.

UM, SO GO OVER TO HUFFINES, ENJOY THE HOLIDAY LIGHTS AND YOUR FAMILY, GRAB SOME HOT COCOA OR COFFEE AND GO OVER THERE.

UM, SO THERE'S STILL THAT OPPORTUNITY TO, TO TAKE IN ALL THE SITES AND AMAZING WORK THAT OUR PARKS, UH, PARKS CREW PUT INTO THAT.

THANK YOU, ORPHAN.

I JUST WANTED TO SECOND WHAT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, KEN HUDSON WRITER MENTIONED ABOUT THE MAYOR'S CHRISTMAS PARTY.

UH, I HEAR SOME OF THE GOOD COM COMMENTS FROM OUR SIDE.

LUCKILY I DIDN'T HAVE THAT MANY OTHER SIDE, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S A GOOD, GOOD, UH, GOOD WAY OF, YOU KNOW, BRINGING SOME OF THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY HERE.

AND IT, THE PARTY WAS DONE VERY MODEST WAY.

SO, YOU KNOW, FOR LONG RUN, I THINK THIS IS, UH, THIS IS A GOOD TRA TRADITION THAT WE HAD IN THE PAST.

I THINK NOW STARTED AGAIN, UH, ENGAGING THE BUSINESS, COMMUNITY, COMMUNITY DIFFERENT WAY.

AND THEN THE TOYS WERE COLLECTED FOR THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB.

SO I SAW SOME OF THE, UH, MEMBERS, EVEN INCLUDING THE COUNCILING MEMBER, THEY BROUGHT TOYS, THINKING ABOUT THE CHILDREN, THAT WHAT WOULD BE GOOD FOR THEIR FUTURE.

SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT BRINGING ANY TOYS, UH, SO, UH, YOU CAN SEE ON THE FACEBOOK WHO SAY WHAT, UH, BUT, UH, OTHER THAN THAT, JUST SAY HAPPY HOLIDAYS, UH, AND KEEP PRAYING FOR THE WORLD, UH, SAME TIME BECAUSE WE ARE ALL HUMAN.

AND END OF THE DAY, THINK ABOUT THAT WE ARE HUMAN.

WE ARE NOT SOMETHING OTHER

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THAN HUMAN.

SO THE BEST GIFT WOULD BE IS FOR SOMEONE THAT IF SOMEONE BECOME A HUMAN, UH, AND, UH, JUST WANTED TO HAPPY HOLIDAY.

AND WE'RE GONNA SEE PROBABLY NEXT YEAR, BUT WE STILL HAVE FEW EVENTS GONNA BE HELD NEXT FEW DAYS.

SO WE'LL BE GOING AROUND NEXT FEW DAYS.

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