Feb 12, 2024 City Council

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AND FEBRUARY 5TH, 2024 MEETING.

COUNCIL MEMBER HUTCHIN RIDER, WE'LL

[3. MINUTES OF THE JANUARY 22, 2024 AND FEBRUARY 5, 2024 MEETINGS]

GO TO ITEM NUMBER THREE.

THIS IS THE MINUTES OF JANUARY 22ND, 2024.

I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION.

MR. UM, CHU.

ALRIGHT, WE'VE BROKE THE RULE TODAY.

I, I PUT A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MEETINGS.

MEETINGS ON THE LAST, UH, MEETINGS AS WRITTEN.

WE'LL NOW GO TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, PUBLIC HEARING.

COULD SECOND MR. HUTCHIN RIDER.

SECOND THAT MAYOR.

ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? SHOW OF HANDS, PLEASE.

THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

[4. PUBLIC HEARING, ZONING FILE 23-15, A REQUEST TO REZONE TWO (2) LOTS TOTALING APPROXIMATELY 1.04 ACRES LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF ABRAMS ROAD AND E. BUCKINGHAM ROAD, FROM 'R' RETAIL TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR THE LR-M(1) LOCAL RETAIL DISTRICT WITH AMENDED DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND A CONCEPT PLAN TO ACCOMMODATE A PATIO COVER FOR A RESTAURANT AND SMOKING ESTABLISHMENT. ]

MR. MAGNER, UH, THANK YOU MAYOR.

UM, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

CHAVEZ IS, UH, GONNA GO TO THE PODIUM.

UH, WE'VE GOT, UH, ZONING FILE 2315.

AND, UH, AFTER SAM'S, UH, PRESENTATION, I DO BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO, UH, MAKE SOME COMMENTS AND TAKE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL.

SO, SAM, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

UH, THIS IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR, ZONING FILE, 23 DASH 15.

UH, THIS IS A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, UH, REQUEST FOR ANOTHER, UH, TIME AND PLACE.

THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF ABRAMS ROAD AND BUCKINGHAM BOULEVARD.

THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE THE ONE ACRE SITE FROM OUR RETAIL TO PD PLAN DEVELOPMENT FOR THE LR DASH M1 LOCAL RETAIL DISTRICT IN ORDER TO ALLOW A PROPOSED PATIO COVER FOR THE EXISTING PATIO LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE BUILDING, UH, TO BE WITHIN THE 40 FOOT FRONT SETBACK AND, AND BE SUBJECT TO A THREE FOOT, UH, FRONT YARD SETBACK ALONG BUCKINGHAM ROAD.

THE FIRST PHOTO THERE, OF COURSE, IS THE, UH, YOU'RE LOOKING EAST TOWARD THE EXISTING, UH, RESTAURANT THAT IS THE SUBJECT, UH, UH, OUTDOOR PATIO AREA THAT, THAT HAS BEEN CONSTRUCTED AS PART OF THE APPROVED SPECIAL PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR, UH, A SMOKING ESTABLISHMENT, BUT ONLY, UH, ALLOWED ON THAT OUTDOOR PATIO AREA.

THE PROPOSED CONCEPT PLAN SHOWS YOU THE, UH, REQUIRED 40 FOOT SETBACK LINE.

AS YOU CAN TELL, 50% OF THE PROPOSED PATIO COVER WOULD BE WITHIN THAT SETBACK.

BUT THE SOUTHERN END OF THAT PATIO, THE PROPOSED PATIO AND THE, AND THE SOUTH BUILDING LINE OF THE EXISTING BUILDING WOULD BE WITHIN THREE FEET OF THE, UH, OF THE EXISTING PROPERTY LINE.

THIS IS A, UM, BLACK AND WHITE ELEVATION OF THE PROPOSED, UH, PATIO STRUCTURE.

IT WOULD BE CONSTRUCTED OF STEEL SUPPORT, UH, WITH, UH, FIXED LOUVER PANELS.

A LOW PITCH ROOF WITH A POLYCARBONATE ROOF SYSTEM, INCLUDING A, UH, TRANS, UH, TRANSLUCENT, UH, PLEXIGLASS WILL ALLOW LIGHT DOWN THROUGH THE, UH, PATIO.

THIS IS A PROSPECTIVE DRAWING OF THE PROPOSED PATIOS.

YOU, AS YOU CAN TELL, IT IS, UH, IT, UH, COMPLETELY COVERS THE PATIO ON THE EAST SIDE OF THAT, ON THE WEST SIDE OF THAT BUILDING.

UH, AND IT IS, UH, OPEN AIR ALONG THE SIDES OF ALL THREE SIDES OF, OF THE STRUCTURE ITSELF.

THINGS TO CONSIDER WITH THIS, THIS, WITH THIS REQUEST IS THAT THE PROPOSED ZONING IS COMPARABLE TO THE R RETAIL DISTRICT.

THE R RETAIL DISTRICT IS A ZONING DESIGNATION IN THE TOWN OF BUCKINGHAM.

SO BOTH ZONING DISTRICTS, UH, REQUIRE A 40 FOOT FRONT YARD SETBACK.

IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, IT WOULD BE ALONG ABRAMS AND BUCKINGHAM ROAD.

AND THE ALLOWED USES ARE ALSO COMPARABLE WITH THE, UH, RETAIL DISTRICT IN, UH, FOR THE TOWN OF BUCKINGHAM.

AS PROPOSED A PATIO SOUTH END, UH, WOULD ALIGN WITH THE EXISTING BUILDING, SOUTH BUILDING LINE

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AT THREE FEET.

UH, THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION AT ITS JANUARY 16TH MEETING, UH, RECOMMENDED, UH, APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST AS PRESENTED ON A VOTE OF SIX TO ZERO.

HOWEVER, THEY DID MAKE A SUGGESTION, AND THEY DIDN'T MAKE THIS AS PART OF THEIR MOTION.

UH, THERE WAS A LITTLE, UM, THERE WAS A LITTLE CONFUSION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THEY COULD DO IT BASED ON HOW THE NOTICE WAS WRITTEN AND HOW THAT NOTICE WAS SENT TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS.

WE VERIFIED WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY THE FOLLOWING DAY, AND HAD THEY TAKE, HAD THEY MADE THAT MOTION TO INCLUDE THE THREE FOOT SETBACK TO THE BUILDING, THEY COULD HAVE DONE SO.

SO, IF, UH, IF COUNSEL CHOOSES TO ADD THAT THE, UH, THE THREE FOOT SETBACK TO THE EXISTING BUILDING, THEY CAN DO SO, UH, IN DOING SO.

UH, RIGHT NOW, OF COURSE, THE BUILDING ENCROACHES INTO THE 40 FOOT SETBACK, UH, DUE TO THE DEDICATION OF RIGHT OF WAY AND THE CONSTRUCTION OF BUCKINGHAM ROAD, WHICH RENDERED THE BUILDING NON-CONFORMING, UH, IN DOING SO, UH, THE MOTION WOULD ELIMINATE THE BUILDING'S NON-CONFORMING STATUS, AND THUS ALLOW THE BUILDING TO BE RECONSTRUCTED AT ITS CURRENT LOCATION, WHICH IS THREE FEET, THREE INCHES FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.

IN THE EVENT OF ITS COMPLETE DESTRUCTION DUE TO FIRE, THE ELEMENTS OR, OR OTHER CAUSES, UH, CITY COUNCIL MAY APPROVE THE REQUEST AS PRESENTED.

UH, THEY CAN APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS OR AMENDED CONDITION, OR THEY CAN DENY THE REQUEST.

UH, THE APPLICANT IS HERE, UH, TO ADDRESS ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS AS WELL AS STAFF.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, SAM.

COUNSEL, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY.

SEEING NONE, WE'D ASK THE APPLICANT TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO AT THIS TIME.

PLEASE.

I AM ED RAWS, UH, THE FOUNDING PARTNER OF RAWS CULVER ARCHITECTS, 9 0 1 NORTH MCDONALD STREET, SUITE 2 0 3 IN MCKINNEY.

UH, WE WERE ENGAGED BY THE OWNERS OF THIS PROPERTY TO, UH, DO BASICALLY A PATIO COVER, A STEEL PATIO COVER FOR THE EXISTING PATIO ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE BUILDING TOWARD THE CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY INN.

THE, THE BUILDING IS, HAS BEEN THERE, I THINK ABOUT 30 YEARS, 9, 19 90 SOMETHING WHEN IT WAS BUILT.

UH, IT WAS IN THE CITY OF BIM, UH, OF, UH, BUCKINGHAM AND WAS ANNEXED INTO THE CITY OF RICHON.

IT WAS AN EXISTING, UH, BUILDING AT THE TIME.

IT WAS DONE THAT, THAT MADE IT A NON-CONFORMING BUILDING.

THE PATIO WAS BUILT ON THE WEST SIDE WAS BUILT, UH, MATCHING.

THAT BUILDING FOOTPRINT COMES OUT TO THE SAME DIMENSION.

SO, UH, IT'S THERE, IT'S EXISTING.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY INTENTION OF CHANGING THAT PATIO OTHER THAN JUST PUTTING A COVER OVER IT.

THE COVER WILL BE A NEW STRUCTURE BEHIND THE EXISTING ONE, JUST, JUST SLIGHTLY BEHIND THE EXISTING PATIO WALLS.

THE WALLS ARE THERE.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE NICE LOOKING.

IT'S WELL DONE.

IT'S GOT NICE LANDSCAPING ON IT.

THE, THE, THE STRUCTURE IS STEEL STRUCTURE, UH, CROSSING.

IT WILL BE WHAT'LL LOOK LIKE STEEL BAR JOISTS ARE ACTUALLY GIRDER TRUSSES THAT WILL CROSS FROM THE WEST SIDE OVER TOWARD THE EXISTING BUILDING.

AND THEN THAT'LL BE COVERED WITH A, WITH A POLYCARBONATE ROOF ON TOP OF THAT, WHICH IS, UH, SEMI-TRANSPARENT, ALLOWS A LIGHT TO COME THROUGH, UH, THE TOP OF THE, THE VERY TOP.

YOU'LL SEE THE LINES IN THERE.

THOSE ARE, UH, UH, THOSE ARE FINS THAT ALLOW AIR TO GO THROUGH THERE.

SO THAT AIR IS, UH, EXHAUSTED AND IT, IT'S, THERE'S SOME AIR MOVEMENT IN THAT, UH, PATIO DURING THAT TIME.

THE, THE BASIC STRUCTURE IS JUST TO COVER WHAT'S THERE.

IT'S NOT AN INTENTION OF TRYING TO BUILD ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE DIMENSIONS OF THE FACILITY THAT'S ALREADY THERE.

UH, IN ORDER FOR THAT TO HAPPEN, UH, WE NEED TO HAVE THE ZONING COME INTO PLAY WITH, UH, BRING IT UP TO DATE.

AND AT THE, UH, THE, THE SUGGESTION OF THE P AND Z TO ADD THE RESTAURANT PART TO IT, I THOUGHT WAS A VERY WISE DECISION ON THEIR PART TO RECOMMEND THAT.

AND WE WOULD, UH, LIKE FOR THAT TO HAPPEN.

UH, THAT, UH, BASIC PURPOSE OF THAT IS IN THE EVENT THAT YOU HAD SOME CATA CATASTROPHIC EVENT, WHICH WOULD MORE, MORE THAN LIKELY BE A TORNADO, COULD BE A FIRE, BUT, UH, VERY, VERY FEW OTHER THINGS THAT COULD CREATE A 100% LOSS OF THAT BUILDING.

IF THAT, UH, HAPPENED, THEN YOU COULD REBUILD THE PATIO AND REBUILD THE COVER, WHICH COULDN'T BE REBUILD THE RESTAURANT.

SO ALONG, ALONG WITH THAT GOES ALL OF THE, THE KITCHEN FOOD SERVICE AND SO FORTH, THE RESTAURANT.

SO IT MAKES SENSE THAT THEY BOTH BE, UH, CONSISTENT.

SO WE REC WE ASK YOU TO CONSIDER ADDING THAT PIECE TO IT.

UH, DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE I NEED TO ADD, BUT I'D BE

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IT'S A PRETTY SIMPLE PROJECT FOR US.

WE'RE, WE'RE PLEASED WITH THE WAY IT LOOKS.

IT'S A LOW PITCHED ROOF, SO IT'S DOESN'T GET UP TOO HIGH.

IT'S ABOUT 14 FEET TO THE CENTER.

THAT'S ENOUGH PITCH WHERE THE WATER WILL GO OFF OF IT AND NOT, UH, PUDDLE UP THERE.

IT'S, UH, UH, WITH A POLYCARBONATE TOP ON IT.

WE, UH, THAT TOP RIGHT NOW IS DRAWN AS A FIXED TOP, BUT THERE'S SOME POSSIBILITY WE MAY, UH, PUT A MOVABLE TOP OF RETRACTABLE TOP ON THAT.

WE'RE DOING ANOTHER ONE IN FRISCO FOR THE SAME OWNER, WHERE WE'RE USING A RETRACTABLE SURFACE SO THAT IT'S LITERALLY OPEN AIR, UH, DURING THE GOOD PARTS OF THE YEAR.

BUT, UH, UNTIL THAT'S DESIGNED AND CONSTRUCTED, THE, UH, DETAILS ARE DONE.

I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE WHAT THAT'S GONNA END UP BEING, BUT THANK YOU, MR. RAW.

COUNSEL.

ANY QUESTIONS? MR. DORIAN? THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UM, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, I THINK I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.

UM, IS, THIS IS JUST A CONCEPTUAL CORRECT.

THIS IS WHAT, THIS IS A, JUST A CON, IT'S A CONCEPTUAL, OR IS IT GONNA BE CON CONCEPTUAL? MM-HMM.

, UH, IT'S CONCEPTUAL TO THE EXTENT THAT IT'S, IT'S IN A PRELIMINARY STAGE OF DRAWINGS.

UH, IT'S MORE THAN JUST BEING A CONCEPT THAT'S BEEN PRESENTED.

IT'S WHAT THE OWNER HAS APPROVED, UH, AS SOMETHING HE'D LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH.

SO IT'S NOT INTENDED, WE'RE NOT INTENDING TO CHANGE THAT TO SOMETHING ELSE.

SO, SO WHAT YOU, WHAT YOU SEE IN THAT DRAWING IS WHAT IS PROPOSED TO BE BILLED.

THAT WAS MY QUESTION.

THAT'S JUST SO WHAT WE SEE, WHAT WE SEE IS EXACTLY HOW IT WOULD BE BUILT WITH THE OPTION OF POSSIBLY HAVING A RETRACTABLE ROOF LINE.

WELL, WE HAD THOSE AT ONE TIME.

THE RE RETRACTABLE, UH, GLASS ON THE BOTTOM, UH, THAT WAS INTENDED TO TRY TO MAKE IT BE LITERALLY A 12 MONTH, UH, UH, USABLE, UH, AREA OF THE BUILDING.

UH, THE, I BELIEVE I UNDERSTAND THAT THE, THE REASON THAT DID NOT WORK WAS BECAUSE IT WOULD REQUIRE THIS, THE ENTIRE FACILITY TO BE SPRINKLED.

UH, IF THE OWNER CAME BACK AND WANTED TO PUT SOME SORT OF A, OF A CONTAINMENT, UH, TEMPORARY CONTAINMENT ON THAT, THEN HE IS ALSO WILLING TO SPRINKLER THE ENTIRE BUILDING THAT THE EXISTING BUILDING AND THE, THE, UH, PATIO ON THE OUTSIDE.

SO RIGHT NOW IT'S SHOWN, IT'S SHOWN OPEN, AND THAT'S, UH, IT, IT, IT PROB THAT, WHAT THAT'S PRACTICALLY MEANS IS IT'S NOT GONNA BE USABLE DURING SOME PARTS OF THE, OF THE YEAR.

UH, RIGHT NOW, IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THIS WIND, UH, BEING ON THAT PATIO TONIGHT.

UH, IT'D BE NICE IF THAT COULD CHANGE IN THE, IN THE FUTURE, BUT THAT'LL BE SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE, UH, THE FIRE SPRINKLER SYSTEM IS, AS YOU WOULD KNOW, IS NOT A CHEAP SYSTEM.

THAT'LL BE SOMETHING THAT'LL HAVE TO BE CONSIDERED IN ORDER TO DO THAT, BECAUSE THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE ADDED.

I MIGHT HAVE SOME OTHER QUESTIONS LATER.

THANK YOU, MR. DOAN.

MAYOR PRO, TIM CHU.

WELL, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR BRINGING THIS THING TO US.

UH, NOW QUESTION.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER, UH, THIS THING, BUT BASED ON OUR LAST, UH, UH, APPROVAL PROCESS THAT WE HAD FOR THIS AREA, TOI THINK THIS IS, THIS PATIO IS ONLY LIMITED TO CERTAIN GROUP, CERTAIN AGE GROUP, UH, NOT UNDERAGE, I THINK.

UH, IS THAT SOMETHING? YES, SIR.

IT'S RESTRICTED TO, UH, 21 YEARS OF AGE AND ABOVE AND ABOVE.

SO WITH THAT CHANGE, IS THAT ANYTHING THAT COULD CHANGE THAT THING OR THAT'S NOT GOING TO CONFLICT WITH THAT, UH, IN ORDER TO CHANGE THAT CONDITION, THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK AND AMEND THAT SPECIAL PERMIT TO AMEND THOSE CONDITIONS.

NOW, WITH THAT QUESTION THAT, UH, NOW IT LOOKS LIKE THE ENTRANCE IS GOING TO BE MUCH WIDER, THIS AREA, SO THAT PEOPLE, I MEAN, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GONNA BE MORE INVITING, YOU KNOW, THAT ENTRANCE.

SO PEOPLE WOULD BE GOING THROUGH THAT, THAT PATIO TO GO TO THE BUILDING.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT ENTRANCE, THAT THE WIDTH OF THAT ENTRANCE ONTO THAT PET, ONTO THAT PATIO DECK IS EXISTING? THEY'RE NOT WIDENING THE ENTRANCE.

ESSENTIALLY WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS THEY'RE DROPPING, REPLACING THE PATIO COVER ON TOP OF THE, UH, OF THE EXISTING PATIO.

SO THERE'S NO MODIFICATION TO THE EXISTING PATIO PROPOSED.

THE APPLICANT? OKAY, MR. RAW, THANK YOU.

SO, UH, THAT BASICALLY DOESN'T CHANGE ANYTHING OTHER THAN PUTTING A SHADE ON THE TOP OF THE PATIO JUST TO COVER FROM THE SUN.

OR OR CELSIUS, I DUNNO.

ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR

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WE'LL ASK YOU SIT DOWN NOW.

THANK, WE'LL, NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

DO WE HAVE ANY PEOPLE WILLING TO SPEAK? MS. EMER? MAY I HAVE ONE CARD IN FAVOR? IAN BLACKMAN.

WELCOME.

MR. BLACKMAN, PLEASE GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.

MY NAME IS IAN BLACKMAN.

I RESIDE AT SIX 11 BIRCH LANE, RICHARDSON, TEXAS 7 5 0 8 1.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR CITY COUNCIL AND, UH, STUDENT EMPLOYEES.

UH, I RISE ON THIS ISSUE FROM A YEAR AGO, UM, AT ANOTHER TIME AND PLACE PERHAPS, AND TO DISCUSS THE, THE IDEA OF THIS PATTY.

I, I'VE VISITED THERE MULTIPLE TIMES AND I KNOW SEVERAL YOUTH HAVE BEEN THERE AND THEY ENJOYED THEIR OFFERINGS OF AMAZING FOOD AND GOOD.

IT'S A GOOD ADDITION TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT REALLY IS.

UM, EVERY TIME I'VE BEEN THERE, I'VE NOT EVEN ENCOUNTERED FOLKS DOING THE, UH, H****R ON THE PATIO, BUT PERHAPS I GO A BIT EARLY.

UH, THIS IDEA TO COVER THAT PATIO, HUGE IMPROVEMENT FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, FOR THAT RESTAURANT, AND JUST TO BRING MORE, UM, AESTHETICALLY PLEASING EMBELLISHMENTS TO THAT BUILDING.

UM, I WOULD NOTE THAT ACROSS THE WAY, CATTY CORNER, AS YOU'D SAY IN TEXAS, THERE IS A, A RATHER OFFENSIVE COLORED ORANGE BUILDING THAT, UH, HAS, HAS BLIGHTED IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HORRIBLE.

AND I'M A UT DALLAS, UH, UH, GRAD.

SO, UH, I LIKE UT GRANT, UH, ORANGE, BUT THAT ORANGE IS TERRIBLE IN, IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, BUT THIS WOULD BE A WELCOMED ADDITION, UM, TO THAT LOCATION.

AS FOR THE, THE THREE FOOT SETBACK, UM, I WOULD SAY, YEAH, THE, THE ROAD CAME AFTER THE BUILDING.

SO, SO I WOULD'VE HOPED THAT WHEN THE ROAD WAS BUILT, THEY WOULD'VE ALLOWED FOR THESE THREE FOOT SETBACKS TO BE GRANDFATHERED IN AND, AND, AND, UH, ESTABLISHED WITH THAT.

SO I WOULD, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU DO APPROVE THAT FOR THE ENTIRE BUILDING BECAUSE AS, UH, NOTED IN THE AGENDA PACKET, IF THAT BUILDING IS TO BE, UH, DESTROYED BY FIRE OR SOME OTHER SUCH CALAMITY, UM, THE OWNER WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO REBUILD AT THAT SAME LOCATION.

UM, WHICH SEEMS A BIT INTERESTING.

SO, UH, I WOULD DEFINITELY END MY SUPPORT FOR THAT.

I THINK THIS IS THE, THE JOB THAT, UM, MR. SEK HAS DONE WITH THIS, WITH THIS BUILDING, UH, FOR THOSE WHO'VE BEEN IN THE INTERIOR, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY HE'S INVESTED JUST IN THAT ONE BUILDING THAT, THAT, THAT IS, IS A DELIGHT TO SEE.

THE FLOOR IS JUST AMAZING THAT THE, THE CHANDELIERS, ALL THAT STUFF THAT HE SPENT A LARGE AMOUNT OF MONEY, UH, TO DO HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS, UM, IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

THAT MEANS A LOT.

UH, IF YOU LOOK JUST TWO PROPERTIES DOWN, THERE'S THE, A BLIGHT TO THE SIEGELS BUILDING THAT'S BEEN SITTING NEAR EMPTY FOR HOW LONG.

UM, I WOULD RECOMMEND WE, WE, WE LOOK AT WAYS TO CHANGE THAT BECAUSE, UM, WHERE I LIVE, I DRIVE PAST IT EVERY DAY AND IT JUST, IT JUST SADDENS ME A LITTLE BIT.

AND THEN I DRIVE PAST ANOTHER TIME, PLACE THAT'S LIKE, HEY, THAT'S HOW THINGS SHOULD BE.

WE DON'T WANT TO GO THE WAY OF OTHER CITIES WHERE THEY, UH, ARE NOT BUSINESS FRIENDLY.

THEY'RE NOT COOPERATIVE TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO, TO DEVELOP AND, AND BECOME, UM, UH, THESE ENTREPRENEURIAL IDEAS TO, TO EXPAND AND, AND BRING DIFFERENT CULTURAL, UM, UH, UH, FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS AND DIFFERENT, UH, ETHNIC, UH, UM, ENJOYMENTS, ET CETERA IN, IN WHERE WE LIVE.

AND, AND I JUST REALLY, IT WHAT HAPPENED LAST YEAR, I REALLY GRIEVE WITH ME A LOT.

AND I THINK, UH, I, IT WOULD BEHOOVE US TO, TO REALLY THINK ABOUT THAT, APPROVE THIS, GIVEN THE THREE, UH, FOOT SETBACK FOR THE BUILDING AND, AND THE PATIO.

AND AGAIN, I ONLY SPEAK FOR ME AS, AS, AS A RESIDENT.

NO ONE'S ASKED ME TO COME SPEAK TONIGHT OR ANYTHING.

THIS IS, THIS IS MY HEARTFELT, UH, PLEA TO YOU.

SO I THANK YOU FOR THAT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, AND HAVE A GOOD EVENING.

THANK YOU, MS. ER.

ANY MORE CARDS? NO FURTHER CARDS.

MAYOR, IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK REGARDING THIS TOPIC? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

MR. HUTSON REER.

MAYOR, IF THERE'S NO ONE ELSE TO SPEAK, I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? MR. CORCORAN? I SECOND THE MOTION.

MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

RAISE YOUR HAND.

THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

ALL RIGHTY, COUNSEL, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION AT THIS TIME ON THIS TOPIC? MR. BARRIOS? MAYOR, I, I HAD ONE FOLLOW UP QUESTION.

I DON'T KNOW IF, CAN I ASK A FOLLOW UP QUESTION TO SAM? ABSOLUTELY, YOU CAN.

SAM, JUST FOLLOW UP, KIND OF SIMILAR, WHAT, UH, MAYOR PROAM SHAEL ASKED, AND JUST SO THAT I SEE NO ISSUE WITH THIS, UM, JUST LOGISTICALLY SPEAKING, SO THAT I KNOW, AND IF PEOPLE ASK ME HOW THIS WORKS, OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE TO BE 21 TO ENTER AND SMOKE IN IN THE AREA.

DOES THAT BECOME AN ENTRYWAY? IS IT, YOU KNOW, IF I WERE COMING IN TO HAVE LUNCH AND I'VE EATEN HERE A COUPLE TIMES, WONDERFUL PLACE.

UH, BUT IF I WERE TO COME IN WITH MY FAMILY, OBVIOUSLY MY SON'S 15, DO I HAVE TO GO IN A DIFFERENT ENTRANCE? HOW DOES THAT WORK? SIMILAR TO, I'M NOT AS FAMILIAR WITH THOSE SMOKING ESTABLISHED AS MAYBE I AM A BAR.

I MEAN, NO, THERE ARE TWO ENTRANCES INTO THE ACTUAL BUILDING ITSELF.

ONE BEING ON THE, ALONG THE WEST ELEVATION, WHICH IS DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THIS, UH, PROPOSED PATIO.

WELL, THE EXISTING PATIO

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IN THE COVER.

UH, AND THE OTHER ENTRY ENTRANCE IS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE ELEVATION.

SO THERE'S TWO POINTS OF ENTRY, UH, INTO THE STRUCTURE ITSELF.

IT WOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO WALK THROUGH THERE.

IT, IT'S MORE AROUND, AROUND TO THE NORTH ENTRY SINCE A SINCE ANYONE UNDER THE AGE OF 21 COULDN'T BE ON THAT PATIO.

ALRIGHT, THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE, PUBLIC HEARING ZONING FILE 20, EXCUSE ME, 2323 DASH 17.

THANK YOU MS. JUSTICE.

GONNA MAKE A MOTION.

PLEASE DO MOVE TO APPROVE ZONING FILE 2315 AS PRESENTED, INCLUDING THE ADDITION OF THE THREE FOOT SETBACK FOR THE EXISTING BUILDING.

OKAY, WE HAVE A SECOND, MR. BARRIOS, I SECOND.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED.

SHOW OF HANDS.

ALL IN FAVOR, THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

[5. PUBLIC HEARING, ZONING FILE 23-17, A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT TO A PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR A 5.2-ACRE LOT LOCATED AT 2301 N. CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY, ON THE NORTH SIDE OF FALL CREEK DRIVE, BETWEEN CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY AND COLLINS BOULEVARD TO ONLY MODIFY THE MINIMUM UNIT SIZE FOR A 131-UNIT APARTMENT DEVELOPMENT. THIS REQUEST DOES NOT INCLUDE AN INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF ALLOWED UNITS.]

A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT TO A PD DEVELOPMENT FOR A 5.2 ACRE LOT LOCATED AT 2301 NORTH CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY ON THE NORTH SIDE OF FALL CREEK DRIVE BETWEEN CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY AND COLLINS BOULEVARD TO ONLY MODIFY THE MINIMUM UNIT SIZE FOR 131 UNIT APARTMENT DEVELOPMENT.

THIS REQUEST DOES NOT INCLUDE AN INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF ALLOWED UNITS.

MR. MAGNER, PLEASE EXPOUND.

REQUIREMENTS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.

UH, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND TURN IT OVER TO SAM.

AS YOU'LL SEE, THIS IS A PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD CONSIDERATION AND I'LL LET SAM PRESENT IT.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I THINK YOU'VE COVERED IT, .

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SO, UH, ZONING FILE 23 DASH 17 IS A REQUEST, UH, TO AMEND THE EXISTING, UH, PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF FALL CREEK DRIVE BETWEEN CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY AND NORTH COLLINS BOULEVARD.

IF YOU REMEMBER, THIS IS A ZONING CASE BACK IN 23.

THEY CAME FORWARD, UH, REQUESTING TO REPURPOSE AN EXISTING HYATT HOUSE, UH, LIMITED SERVICE HOTEL FROM 131 UNITS TO 131, UH, APARTMENT UNITS.

UH, THE REQUEST TONIGHT IS TO AMEND THE PD CONDITION RELATED TO THE MINIMUM UNIT SIZE FOR A STUDIO APARTMENT AND A ONE BEDROOM APARTMENT.

UH, THE TRACK SIZE, OF COURSE, EVERYTHING, UH, EVERYTHING REMAINS THE SAME.

UH, THEY'RE STILL LOOKING AT CONVERTING A ONE-TO-ONE.

SO AT THIS POINT, UH, THERE WERE, UH, UH, RESTRICTED TO 131 UNITS.

UH, THAT NUMBER STAYS THE SAME.

UH, THE DIFFERENCES IN THE APPROVED MINIMUM UNIT SIZES FOR A STUDIO, UH, UNIT, UH, IT WAS, UH, CONDITIONED AT 450.

A ONE BEDROOM WAS CONDITIONED AT 500 SQUARE FEET.

WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IS A AMENDMENT TO THOSE, UH, TO THE STUDIO UNIT TO 350 IN LIEU OF 450.

AND, UH, FOR A ONE BEDROOM TO 400 SQUARE FEET INSTEAD OF 500 SQUARE FEET, THE PARKING SPACES REMAINED THE SAME.

SO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT REALLY WHAT HAPPENED IS, UH, IT'S REALLY BASED ON THE TIMELINE.

SO WHEN THIS PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT WAS APPROVED, THAT THAT OCCURRED IN FEBRUARY OF 23, THE CURRENT PROPERTY OWNER DIDN'T ACQUIRE THE, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY UNTIL APRIL OF 23.

BASED ON THAT TIME LIMIT, UH, ON THAT TIMEFRAME, UH, THEY HAD LIMITED ACCESS TO THE BUILDING, UM, PRIOR TO THE APPROVAL IN FEBRUARY 23, WHICH MEANT THAT THEY HAD, UH, THAT THE, THE DETAILED PLANS WERE, WERE UNAVAILABLE AT THE TIME.

SO WHAT THEY DID IS THEY TOOK THE MINIMUM UNIT SIZE OF SPACE ON THE BUILDING AREA OF EACH BUILDING, DIVIDED IT BY THE NUMBER OF UNITS IN THAT BUILDING, AND THEREFORE CAME UP WITH A SQUARE FOOTAGE.

SO, WHAT'S UNCHANGED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT INTENT? REALLY NOTHING.

UH, THE, IT'S STILL A UNIT BY UNIT CONVERSION THAT'S PRESENTED TO BOTH THIS BODY, OUR PLANNING COMMISSION, AND, AND THE CANYON CREEK NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, THE, THE EXISTING SIZE UNIT SIZES ARE NOT BEING ALTERED AT ALL.

THEY'RE NOT MOVING ANY WALLS.

THEY'RE TAKING THE UNITS AS THEY ARE.

THEY'RE REMODELING THE INTERIOR OF THOSE UNITS.

AND THEN THE NUMBER OF APARTMENT UNITS, UH, REMAIN THE SAME AT 131 UNITS.

UH, AT ITS, UH, JANUARY 16TH, UH, MEETING THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION VOTED SIX TO ZERO TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST AS PRESENTED IN YOUR PACKET, YOU HAVE, UH, TOTAL OF, UH, ONE LETTER, UH, IN SUPPORT OF THE, UH, REQUEST, I DID HAND OUT ONE ADDITIONAL LETTER KIND OF SUPPLEMENTING WHAT THAT ONE LETTER, WHAT THAT ONE LETTER IN YOUR PACKET PRESENTED.

UH, THE, SO YOUR ACTIONS DENIED, UH, THE CITY COUNCIL MAY APPROVE THE REQUEST AS PRESENTED.

THEY CAN APPROVE THE CONDITIONS OR AMEND THOSE CONDITIONS OR DENY THE REQUEST.

I KNOW THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE TONIGHT TO ANY YOUR, TO ANSWER ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS AS WELL AS STAFF.

THANK YOU, SAM.

COUNSEL, ANY QUESTIONS FOR SAM? MR. HUTCHEN? RE SAM, JUST A QUESTION MORE OF A A, I GUESS I'LL SAY PROCEDURAL.

IT, IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE A LOT OF APARTMENT COMPLEXES COME THROUGH FROM TIME TO TIME FOR ZONING

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AND I DON'T REMEMBER, I MEAN, WE'RE ALWAYS TOLD THAT IT'S GONNA BE APPROXIMATELY X NUMBER OF FEET.

WHAT, WHY THE DIFFERENCE ON THIS ONE WHERE WE HAVE TO ACTUALLY, WHERE THE OWNER HAS TO COME AND LOCK DOWN THE ACTUAL SQUARE FOOTAGE? IS THAT, CAN, CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND THAT? 'CAUSE THAT, THAT IT SEEMS TO BE DIFFERENT THAN OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE COME THROUGH US BEFORE? YES, SIR.

ON PROPOSED DEVELOPMENTS, AND I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S A BIG DIFFERENCE, IS THAT THEY CAN DESIGN THOSE UNITS BASED ON THE MINIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE HERE WITH THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT, THE APPLICANT INHERITED THOSE UNIT SIZES.

LET ME GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.

EVEN IN THE SAME UNIT TYPE, THE STUDIO TYPE, THOSE, THOSE SQUARE FOOTAGES VARY FROM UNIT TO UNIT TYPE.

SO IT COULD BE ANYWHERE FROM, YOU MAY HAVE A STUDIO UNIT THAT IS, UH, 3 75, YOU MAY FIND ANOTHER STUDIO UNIT THAT'S AT THREE 50.

SO THEY VARY EVEN WITHIN THE BUILDING.

UH, SO THAT'S THE BIG DIFFERENCE TO ME IS THAT ONE YOU CAN DESIGN UNDER THAT MINIMUM FOR BRAND NEW DEVELOPMENT AS OPPOSED TO IN HAVING INHERITED THOSE MINIMUM UNIT SIZES AS THEY EXIST TODAY.

SO DO WE HAVE, IS THERE A MINIMUM SIZE THAT WE REQUIRE AS A CITY FOR A, FOR A STUDIO OR FOR AN APARTMENT? UH, NO, SIR.

THERE ISN'T, ESPECIALLY IN, IN, IN NEW PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS, IT'S THROUGH THAT PROCESS THAT THEY CAN MODIFY THOSE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.

UNDER STANDARD ZONING DISTRICT, WE DO HAVE MINIMUMS, BUT THEY'RE QUITE LARGE.

SO, SO I, I'M SORRY.

I GUESS, UH, SOMEWHERE THIS ISN'T REGISTERING WITH ME.

SO I'M, I'M STILL NOT QUITE SURE WHY, WHY WE HAVE, I MEAN, IT'S FINE THAT WE DO, I'M NOT, I'M NOT COMPLAINING.

IT'S JUST, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE COMING BACK OR WHY THE APPLICANT'S HAVING TO COME BACK AND, AND BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, THERE'S GONNA BE, THERE'S VARYING SIZES.

SO I, I GUESS I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY, WHY THEY HAVE TO COME BACK AND ASK FOR THAT, FOR THAT OKAY.

ADJUSTMENT.

THAT'S, THAT'S THE PART I'M NOT, THAT'S NOT MAKING SENSE TO ME.

COUNCILMAN RA THINK NO, THAT'S FINE.

YEAH, SO THE, IF I THINK, LET ME JUST RE UH, RESTATE THE QUESTION.

WHY ARE WE IN THIS PARTICULAR PDY, ARE WE LOCKING DOWN THE MINIMUM SIZE? YEAH, IT'S BECAUSE IT WAS AN EXISTING, IT WAS AN EXISTING, UM, UM, UM, NUMBER OF UNITS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND DID NOT WANT THEM TO BE ABLE TO SUBDIVIDE THE UNITS AND MAKE, MAKE IT MORE DENSE.

SO BY, BY LOCKING DOWN THE NUMBER OF UNITS AT THE SIZE THEY ARE, THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO ABILITY FOR THEM TO GO GREATER THAN 131 UNITS.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? OKAY, THAT MAKES SENSE.

WE'RE, WE, WE DID NOT WANT, WE, THE, THE, THE, UH, PREFERENCE WAS NOT TO LET THEM SUBDIVIDE AND MAYBE GET UP TO 150 OR EVEN, YOU KNOW, MORE UNITS.

AND BY LOCKING DOWN THE EXACT SIZE OF THE UNITS, UM, LIKE WE'RE DOING HERE WITH THE, WITH THE MINIMUM, THEY, THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO SUBDIVIDE.

THAT MAKES SENSE.

I APPRECIATE IT MR. .

WELL, THE QUESTION, THIS GO BACK TO THE SAME QUESTION.

UH, YOU ARE LOCKING DOWN THE MINIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE, UH, EACH, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO YOU CALL THE STUDIO OR ONE BEDROOM, BUT, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY WERE OFF INITIALLY THAT NOW WHAT'S THE GUARANTEE THAT 131 UNITS IS RIGHT OR IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT TODAY.

MAYBE 120.

THERE'S A MAXIMUM IN THE ORDINANCE ITSELF.

THAT'S, THAT, THAT ESTABLISHES THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF UNITS.

SECOND, ALWAYS GO LOWER.

THEY JUST CAN'T, THEY CAN'T INCREASE IT BEYOND 131 UNITS.

ONE, ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY ONE ARE OUT THERE TODAY.

SO 131 IS NOT OUT THERE TODAY THAT'S GOING TO BE THERE IN THE FUTURE? NO.

AND WE KNOW THAT BECAUSE WE WERE ABLE TO CONFIRM THAT, UH, THROUGH THE, THE BUILDING PLANS.

PLUS NOW THEY HAVE ACCESS TO THE BU THEY HAVE ACCESS TO THE BUILDINGS.

SO THEY WERE ABLE TO ACTUALLY DO AN INVENTORY AND CONFIRM THAT IT, IT WAS CONSISTENT THERE.

THERE ARE 1 31 UNITS TODAY.

TODAY.

SO IT'S NOT THAT MINIMUM.

THEY CAN HAVE THIS, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, THAT'S THERE TODAY.

ABSOLUTELY.

SO THAT NUMBER IS NOT GOING TO, WHATEVER IS OUT THERE TODAY, THAT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE BECAUSE NOW THAT OUR FOOTAGE HAS CHANGED, IF THAT APPROVED, UH, THEN THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO SAY, OKAY, NOW WHAT SLOT LOOKS LIKE 129, WE CAN PUT TWO MORE.

SO THAT'S NOT GOING TO, THAT'S NOT THE INTENTION.

THAT'S NOT THEIR INTENTION.

SO, AND IS THAT, UH, 350, IS THAT MINIMUM SIZE THEY HAVE OR IS LIKE ALL THE STUDIO THE SAME SIZE? IT MAY BE AT ABOUT 3 55, 3 56.

BUT AGAIN, THEY VARY.

SO WE KIND OF LOOK, YOU KNOW, SO THERE'S A SMALL CUSHION IN THERE.

ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COUNSEL? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE.

THE A APPLICANT LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND PRESENT TO THE COUNCIL? GOOD EVENING MAYOR.

SAM.

WOULD

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MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, SUZANNE KEDRON, 2323 ROSS AVENUE.

WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION.

UH, WHEN YOU'RE WORKING WITH AN ADAPTIVE REUSE PROJECT, WE RUN INTO THESE LITTLE GLITCHES SOMETIMES.

UM, AND UNFORTUNATELY THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE WAS IN THE ORDINANCE AND THE MEASUREMENTS, THE INITIAL CALCULATION ON THE MEASUREMENTS WERE WRONG.

BUT NOTHING AT ALL IS CHANGING FROM THE PROJECT.

WE STILL ARE DOING 131 UNITS.

IT'S A ONE-TO-ONE CONVERSION FROM THE CURRENT PROJECT THAT WAS THERE.

NOW, UH, WE STILL ENJOY GOOD NEIGHBORHOOD SUPPORT.

WE'RE WORKING REALLY CLOSELY WITH THE CANYON CREEK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AS WELL.

YOU SAW THE LETTER FROM MR. CALDWELL IN THERE.

SO WE CONTINUE TO WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH OUR NEIGHBORS.

SO I'M JUST HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, COUNSEL.

ANY QUESTIONS MR. CHU? UH, JUST ONE MORE QUESTION.

I THINK LAST TIME, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THERE WAS SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT HAVING A SIGNAL OR LIGHT FOR THE LANE.

UH, WHAT'S THE STATUS ON THAT ONE? ANY, ANYONE CAN GIVE ME SOME UPDATE ON THAT ONE? SURE.

SO FOR RIGHT NOW, WE'VE, WE'VE ACTUALLY ADDED A FOUR-WAY STOP AT THE INTERSECTION.

AND WE'RE GOING TO, UH, CONTINUE TO STUDY THE PERFORMANCE OF THE INTERSECTION TO, TO SEE IF IT'S OPERATING EFFICIENTLY AND WHAT ADDITIONAL NEXT STEPS MAY NEED TO BE TAKEN.

AND THEY DID, UH, ESCROW, I BELIEVE IT WAS ABOUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IN CASE WE DID NEED TO MAKE ANY INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS.

ANY MORE QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YOU MAY SIT DOWN AT THIS TIME, WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

DO WE HAVE ANYONE, ANY CARDS? MS. NEWMAN? NO CARDS.

MAYOR.

IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS CASE? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE.

GONNA GET A MOTION, MR. HUTCHIN, WRITER TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

MAYOR, IF THERE'S NO, UH, ONE WISHING TO SPEAK, I'D MIGHT LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, PLEASE.

ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION.

MR. CORCORAN.

SECOND.

THE MOTION.

ALRIGHT, MOTION IS SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? SHOW OF HANDS, PLEASE.

PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.

ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? MY COUNSEL, MR. HUTCHIN.

RIDER, IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, I'D LOVE TO MAKE A MOTION.

PLEASE DO.

WE'RE GONNA GO TO ITEM NUMBER SIX, VISITORS ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS.

I WOULD MOVE THAT WE APPROVE ZONING FILE 23 DASH 17 AS PUBLISHED.

AND COULD WE GIVE A SECOND, MR. CORCORAN? THANK YOU.

I SECOND.

ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION.

AND SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL.

RICK, SHOW OF HANDS, PLEASE.

[6. VISITORS/ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS]

MR. MAG, UH, THANK YOU MAYOR.

I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND READ THE INSTRUCTIONS.

UH, THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING IS TO ACKNOWLEDGE ANY, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS, WHICH WE DO NOT HAVE ANY TONIGHT.

UM, AND TO ALLOW VISITORS TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ANY TOPIC THAT'S NOT ALREADY, UH, SCHEDULED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.

WE JUST CONCLUDED ALL SPEAKERS SHOULD COMPLETE A PUBLIC COMMENT CARD AND SUBMIT IT TO THE CITY SECRETARY WHEN YOUR NAME IS CALLED.

SPEAKER SHOULD STEP TO THE PODIUM AND STATE THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, SPEAKERS ARE LIMITED TO FIVE MINUTES AS INDICATED BY THE TIMERS.

SPEAKER SHOULD REMAIN AT THE PODIUM DURING THEIR COMMENTS.

IF THE SPEAKER HAS HANDOUTS FOR THE COUNCIL, THEY SHOULD BE GIVEN TO THE CITY SECRETARY FOR DISTRIBUTION.

THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT PROHIBITS THE CITY COUNCIL FROM DISCUSSING OR TAKING ACTION ON ITEMS THAT ARE NOT POSTED ON THE AGENDA.

THE MAYOR OR CITY MANAGER MAY RESPOND WITH FACTS OF POLICY OR DIRECT CITY STAFF TO RESPOND TO THE SPEAKER AFTER THE MEETING.

UM, AT THIS TIME, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE TO SILENCE, UH, CELL PHONE THROUGHOUT THE MEETING.

AND ME, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU TO CALL THE SPEAKERS.

MAYOR, I HAVE TWO CARDS TONIGHT.

THE FIRST ONE IS AHMED OLI.

HELLO.

GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL.

IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL AGAIN.

UH, NO SPEECH PREPARED TODAY.

I, UH, I DO LIKE WRITING THEM, BUT I FELT LIKE IT WAS IMPORTANT TO SPEAK FROM THE HEART TODAY.

NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE.

YES, SIR.

I FORGOT ABOUT THAT.

UH, I WANT TO THANK COUNCILWOMAN JENNIFER JUSTICE FOR ARRANGING A TIME NEXT WEEK FOR US TO MEET, UM, AND REVIEW THE, UM, THE DRAFT RESOLUTION THAT WAS SUBMITTED, OR AT LEAST DISCUSS IT.

I USUALLY WRITE THAT DOWN.

4, 4 8.

TIFFANY TRAIL.

AH, THANK YOU.

UH, I JUST WANT TO OPEN UP THANKING YOU FOR YOUR CORRESPONDENCE.

IT DOES MEAN A LOT.

UM, SPEAKING TO MEMBERS OF MY COMMUNITY, THE MUSLIM AND ARAB COMMUNITY.

IT MAKES US FEEL REALLY SEEN.

UM, AND I'VE BEEN SHARING, YOU KNOW, SORT OF THE FOLKS THAT REACHED OUT.

SO I WANTED TO MENTION BY NAME MAYOR BOB DOOBY, COUNCILWOMAN JENNIFER, JUSTICE COUNCILMAN DAN BARRIOS, COUNCILMAN JOE CARONE.

SORRY IF I MISPRONOUNCED THAT.

UH, AND COUNCILMAN KEN HUTCHIN RIDER.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR CORRESPONDENCE AND JUST REACHING OUT AND ENGAGING.

I APPRECIATE IT.

UM, CURTIS STORY, COUNCILMAN CURTIS.

HISTORIAN, COUNCILMAN RF A REALLY COOL GUY.

I'M A DATA ENGINEER.

I'M AN AGGIE.

I'M SURE WE CAN FIND SOMETHING IN COMMON.

UM, SO I WOULD, UM, ENCOURAGE YOU TO REACH OUT OR I CAN REACH OUT AGAIN AND, AND, UH, HOPEFULLY WE CAN SET UP ON SOME, SOME ONE-ON-ONE TIME I'VE HEARD GREAT THINGS ABOUT BOTH OF YOU.

UM, I WANTED TO TOUCH ON THE TEACH-IN THAT WE'VE HAD SCHEDULED.

I KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME CONFLICTS, UH, AND YOU'RE UNABLE TO ATTEND.

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UH, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT TIME.

UM, THE TEACH-IN REALLY IS, IS FOR YOU ALL.

UM, AND SO IF I'LL BE HERE, UM, FOR THE RE REMAINDER OF THE MEETING, UH, LOOKING TO SEE IF ANY OF YOU ARE GONNA CONFIRM YOUR ATTENDANCE.

IF NOT, WE'RE GONNA POSTPONE IT AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN WORK TOGETHER TO FIND A FORMAT AND AN AGENDA THAT WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO ATTEND, NOT AS AS, UH, MAYBE NOT IN YOUR OFFICIAL CAPACITY, BUT IN YOUR PERSONAL CAPACITY.

'CAUSE IT'S REALLY TO ENGAGE THE CONSTITUENCY, THAT'S A GOOD WORD, CONSTITUENCY.

UM, AND, UM, SHOW THE COMMUNITY THAT, UH, THEIR VOICES DO MATTER.

UM, THE, THE ONLY THING I WROTE DOWN WAS I, I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT WHAT MY, WHAT I FEEL LIKE MY DUTY TO MY COMMUNITY IS AS A, AS A TEXAN, AS AN AMERICAN, AS A HAKI FINI INDIVIDUAL.

UM, YOU KNOW, THE THINGS THAT HAPPEN OVERSEAS DO AFFECT OUR COMMUNITY HERE.

UM, THE CONFLICTS GENERATE, UH, REFUGEES.

THE REFUGEES ARE PEOPLE WHO WILL INEVITABLY COME INTO MY COMMUNITY.

AND SO WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THEIR TRAUMA.

WE HAVE TO TALK TO THE MOTHERS AND THE FATHERS AND THE CHILDREN.

UM, AND WE HAVE TO SHOW THEM THAT THE AMERICAN EXPERIMENT IS FOR THEM TOO.

AND SO, ONE OF MY COMMITMENTS TO MY COMMUNITY THAT I FEEL VERY DEEPLY ABOUT IS ENSURING THAT THEY KNOW THAT THE AMERICAN EXPERIMENT, AS MUCH AS IT IS FOR ALL OF US, AS MUCH AS IT IS FOR ME, IS ALSO FOR THEM.

UM, AND SO CIVIC ENGAGEMENT IN WHATEVER CAPACITY IS IMPORTANT TO ME.

UM, INCREASING MY COMMUNITIES, ESPECIALLY THE MUSLIM AND ARAB COMMUNITY'S INVOLVEMENT IN OUR, IN OUR LOCAL, UM, GOVERNMENT IS, IS SOMETHING THAT NATIONWIDE ARAB AND, AND MUSLIM COMMUNITIES STRUGGLE WITH.

AND SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT AS AN INDIVIDUAL, I'M WORKING TO, TO MAKE BETTER.

I WANT MORE PEOPLE TO VOTE.

I WANT MORE PEOPLE TO SIGN UP FOR COMMITTEES.

UH, I WANT MORE PEOPLE TO COME TO THESE COUNCIL MEETINGS.

I WANT MORE PEOPLE TO VOLUNTEER FROM MY COMMUNITY SO THAT WE ARE CAN PARTICIPATE IN THE AMERICAN EXPERIMENT.

AND I, I'M, I'M BEING LONG-WINDED.

IT'S USUALLY WHY I WRITE SPEECHES HERE.

UM, BUT AGAIN, UM, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO NEXT WEEK, UH, COUNCILWOMAN JUSTICE.

UM, AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN WORK TOGETHER TO FIND WAYS TO, UM, MAKE SURE EVERYONE'S INVOLVED IN THE GRAND GREAT, BEAUTIFUL AMERICAN EXPERIMENT.

GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

MY NAME IS LAUREN ROSE BROWN.

I ACTUALLY LIVE IN PLANO.

I USED TO FORMALLY LIVE IN RICHARDSON.

UM, BUT I DO STILL WORK HERE OVER AT UT DALLAS.

UM, MY ADDRESS IS 73 0 1 ALMA DRIVE IN PLANO, TEXAS 7 5 0 2 5.

UM, I ALSO STUDY AT UT DALLAS TOO.

SO I'M COMING HERE TO YOU GUYS TODAY.

IF YOU LOOK AT ME, YOU HEAR MY NAME.

A LOT OF PEOPLE IMMEDIATELY ASSUME THAT I'M ALSO ADDED BECAUSE I WEAR HIJAB.

UM, AND I WAS ACTUALLY RAISED AS A ZIONIST CHRISTIAN.

AND SO, UM, MY WHOLE LIFE I FIRMLY BELIEVED TO STAND WITH ISRAEL, UM, UNTIL I BECAME A PUBLIC SCHOOL TEACHER HERE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS IN RED OAK.

UH, I HAD A LOT OF REFUGEES FROM SYRIA AND PALESTINE.

AND HEARING THEIR STORIES OR WHAT CHANGED MY PERSPECTIVE ABOUT THE ISSUE, THE CONFLICT THAT'S BEEN HAPPENING FOR SEVERAL DECADES OVER INZA AND IN ISRAEL.

UM, HEARING THEIR STORIES ABOUT THE, THE BROTHERS, THE MOTHERS, THE FATHERS THAT THEY LOST, UM, THE HOMES THAT THEY LOST WAS SO HORRIFYING AND HARROWING.

I HAD TO DO MORE RESEARCH.

I HAD TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THEIR EXPERIENCE.

WHY, WHY WERE THEY HERE? WHAT, WHAT WAS THE TRAUMA THAT THEY ENDURED? AND AS I WROTE WITH THEM IN CLASS, HEARING THEIR STORIES WAS COMPLETELY LIFE CHANGING.

UM, HEARING HOW ONE DAY A KNOCK AT THE DOOR, IT'S IDF SOLDIERS COMING TO TAKE THEIR HOME AWAY FROM THEM.

AND NOW THEY'RE DISPLACED.

THEY DON'T HAVE A HOME.

UH, AND 1, 1, 1 CHILD OF MINE, UM, HE TOLD A STORY ABOUT HOW HE WAS PLAYING SOCCER WITH HIS BROTHERS, HIS COUSINS, AND AN IDF SHOULDER SHOT ONE OF THEM IN THE HEAD.

UM, WHILE THEY WERE PLAYING SOCCER AND HEARING THESE STORIES, IT WAS SO HARD TO WRAP MY BRAIN AROUND BECAUSE MY WHOLE LIFE I HAD THOUGHT ISRAEL IS ALWAYS LIKE GOD'S CHOSEN.

LIKE, WHY WOULD THEY DO THIS TO INNOCENT HUMAN BEINGS? AND SO, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF THE CITY COUNCIL, I STAND BEFORE YOU TODAY

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WITH A HEAVY HEART AND A PLEA FOR HUMANITY.

THIS IS BEYOND RELIGION.

THIS IS BEYOND POLITICS.

THIS IS ABOUT HUMANITY.

OUR CITY, OUR COMMUNITY IS BUILT ON THE VALUES OF COM.

COMPASSION, JUSTICE, AND PEACE.

EVEN IN THE PRAYER THAT YOU OPEN UP WITH TODAY, IT WAS A MARVELOUS PRAYER.

THAT'S THE PRAYER I PRAY.

I PRAY EVERY DAY.

MY DOULA IS FOR PEACE TO BE ESTABLISHED ON EARTH AND IN OUR COMMUNITIES.

YET AS WE GATHER IN THE COMFORT OF THIS CHAMBER, INNOCENT LIVES ARE BEING TORN APART.

IN ZA, THE IMAGES OF DESTRUCTION, THE CRIES OF ANGUISH, THEY PIERCE OUR SOULS AND DEMAND ACTION.

WE CANNOT TURN A BLIND EYE TO THE SUFFERING OF OUR FELLOW HUMAN BEINGS, ESPECIALLY WHEN OUR TAX DOLLARS ARE INADVERTENTLY FUNDING THE DEVASTATION.

EVERY BOMB THAT FALLS, EVERY LIFE LOST IS A STAIN ON OUR COLLECTIVE CONSCIENCE AND A BETRAYAL OF OUR VALUES.

AND IT'S AS IF THIS SITUATION CANNOT BE MORE DIRE.

REPORTS HAVE EMERGED JUST YESTERDAY WHILE WE WERE ALL WATCHING THE SUPER BOWL, THAT THE RAFA BORDER DECLARED A SAFE ZONE BY ISRAEL IS BEING BOMBED AS WE SPEAK.

AND NOW MILLIONS OF PEOPLE ARE LOSING THEIR LIVES JUST TO TRY TO FIND SAFE, SAFE PLACE.

THIS BLATANT DISREGARD FOR THE SAFETY AND WELLBEING OF CIVILIANS IS NOT JUST A VIOLATION OF INTERNATIONAL LAW.

IT IS A BETRAYAL OF TRUST AND A MOCKERY OF HUMANITY.

WE CANNOT AFFORD TO STAND IDLY BY WHILE SUCH ATROCITIES UNFOLD, OTHER CITIES ACROSS THE GLOBE HAVE ALREADY TAKEN A STAND BY PASSING RESOLUTIONS FOR CEASEFIRE.

ON JANUARY 31ST OF THIS YEAR, CHICAGO BECAME THE LARGEST CITY IN THE US TO PASS A SEAFIRE RESOLUTION REGARDING GAZA.

OTHER CITIES LIKE SEATTLE, WASHINGTON, SAN FRANCISCO, CALIFORNIA, AND ST.

PAUL MINNESOTA PASSED SIMILAR RESOLUTIONS.

AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING OUR DRAFT RESOLUTION AS WELL HERE IN RICHARDSON, TEXAS, THEY HAVE RECOGNIZED THE URGENCY OF THE SITUATION AND THE MORAL IMPERATIVE TO ACT.

AND NOW IT IS OUR TURN TO JOIN THEM.

WE MUST CALL FOR A CEASEFIRE IN GAZA, NOT JUST OUT OF MORAL OBLIGATION, BUT BECAUSE IT IS OUR DUTY.

AS REPRESENTATIVES OF THIS COMMUNITY, OUR CITIZENS ENTRUST US WITH THEIR TAXES, WITH THE EXPECTATION THAT WE WILL USE THEM TO BUILD A BETTER WORLD, NOT TO FUEL THE FLAMES OF CONFLICT AND DESPAIR, BUT BEYOND FINANCIAL IMPLICATIONS.

THERE'S A DEEPER REASON WHY THIS MATTERS TO YOU GUYS AS LOCAL GOVERNMENT, THE RIPPLE EFFECTS OF VIOLENCE IN KAZA EXTEND FAR BEYOND ITS BORDERS.

IT BREEDS RESENTMENT, IT FUELS EXTREMISM, AND IT DESTABILIZES THE ENTIRE REGION.

AND THOSE RIPPLES AFFECT OUR COMMUNITY AS WELL.

AS YOU'VE HEARD FROM STORIES OF FALLIS WHO'VE COME OVER HERE AS REFUGEES AND HAVE, ARE STILL ENDURING THE TRAUMA AS WE SPEAK.

JUST THE OTHER DAY, A BROTHER OF MINE AND MU, A MUSLIM BROTHER OF MINE TALKED ABOUT LOSING 41 FAMILY MEMBERS SINCE OCTOBER 7TH.

AS MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY, WE CANNOT AFFORD TO IGNORE THE CONSEQUENCES OF SUCH CHAOS WHERE THEY WILL INEVITABLY FIND THEIR WAY TO OUR DOORSTEP BY CALLING FOR A CEASEFIRE.

WE SEND A POWERFUL MESSAGE TO THE WORLD THAT OUR CITY, RICHARDSON STANDS FOR PEACE, THAT WE VALUE THE SANCTITY OF HUMAN LIFE ABOVE ALL ELSE.

WE MAY BE JUST ONE VOICE AMONG MANY, BUT LET US NOT UNDERESTIMATE THE IMPACT OF OUR COLLECTIVE VOICE.

LET US SHOW COMPASSION TO THE INNOCENT VICTIMS OF THIS CONFLICT AND DEMONSTRATE LEADERSHIP IN THE PURSUIT OF PEACE AND STAY ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF HISTORY.

I URGE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU ESTEEMED COUNCIL MEMBERS AND STAFF AS WELL TO JOIN ME IN CALLING FOR A CEASEFIRE IN KAZA, AND LET US NOT BE REMEMBERED AS BYSTANDERS IN THE FACE OF INJUSTICE, BUT AS CHAMPIONS OF HUMANITY.

VISITOR'S ACKNOWLEDGEMENT.

ANY MORE CARDS? NO OTHER CARDS, MA'AM.

IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT HAS NOT FILLED OUT A CARD THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? OKAY, WE'LL CLOSE THAT.

WE'LL

[7. REVIEW AND DISCUSS COUNCIL RULES OF PROCEDURE ]

GO TO ITEM SEVEN ON OUR AGENDA, REVIEW AND DISCUSS COUNCIL RULES OF PROCEDURE.

MR. MAKER.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

UH, OUR CITY SECRETARY, AMY EMER, IS GOING TO, UH, TAKE THE PODIUM HERE AND, UM, LEAD THIS PRE, UH, LEAD THIS BRIEFING TIME.

UM, I WANT TO JUST, UH, MAKE NOTE THAT, UM, WE PROVIDED, UH, YOU WITH THE INITIAL, UH, DRAFT OF THE RULES OF ORDER AND PROCEDURE, UM, IN YOUR PACKET ON THURSDAY, AND THEN POSTED THESE ONLINE SO THAT THE COMMUNITY WOULD ALSO HAVE ACCESS TO 'EM.

UH, THIS IS ALWAYS A, UH, A AN INTERESTING, UH, WAY OF TRYING TO PRESENT A DOCUMENT LIKE THIS.

UH, I KNOW YOU WOULD NOT WANT US TO GO LINE BY LINE THROUGH THIS DOCUMENT.

AND SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE KIND OF BROKEN IT DOWN INTO THREE CATEGORIES.

UM, THIS IS REALLY A COMPILATION OF, UH, CHARTER REQUIREMENTS, STATE LAW, AND THEN I WOULD SAY KIND OF OUR, UH, OWN LOCAL PRACTICES AND THEN SOME BEST PRACTICES THAT WE'VE, UM, IDENTIFIED AND INCORPORATED.

AND SO WHAT, UH, AMY'S GONNA DO IS, UM, WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH EACH OF THE SIX SECTIONS, UM, AND AS WE GO THROUGH EACH OF THE SIX SECTIONS, WE'LL, WE'LL REALLY FOCUS ON THOSE LOCAL INFORMAL POLICIES THAT WE'RE FORMALIZING THROUGH THIS DOCUMENT.

AND SOME OF THE BEST PRACTICES,

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ASSUMING THAT THE CHARTER AND THE STATE LAW IS, IS WELL KNOWN AS IT'S, AND BECAUSE IT'S UNCHANGEABLE, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF NECESSARY, UH, DISCUSSION AROUND THOSE.

WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO, AS AT THE CONCLUSION OF EACH SECTION, IS TO STOP AND THEN HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT ANY ITEMS THAT YOU MAY WANNA DISCUSS BEFORE WE MOVE ON.

WE, WE FEEL LIKE THAT WOULD BE A MORE EFFICIENT WAY OF KIND OF MANEUVERING THE DISCUSSION WITHOUT HAVING TO GO BACK AND FORTH THROUGHOUT THE DOCUMENT, UM, AS WE GO THROUGH EACH COUNCIL PERSON AND, AND TAKE THEIR FEEDBACK.

SO AS WE MOVE ON FROM SECTION ONE, FOR INSTANCE, WE WOULD KIND OF WRAP IT UP AND, AND KNOW THAT, UM, WE, WE CAN FOCUS ON THE NEXT SECTION AS, AS EACH DIFFERS A LITTLE.

UM, I JUST WANNA TAKE A SECOND AND JUST THANK AMY.

AMY'S DONE AN AWESOME JOB, UH, SHEPHERDING THIS PROCESS TO GET US HERE, UH, AS WELL AS OUR CITY ATTORNEY PETE SMITH HAS, HAS BEEN REAL HELPFUL.

SO AMY, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO YOU LEAD TO LEAD OUR DISCUSSION TONIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU MR. MAGNER, AND GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

I'M HAPPY TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THIS IMPORTANT BRIEFING TO YOU, NOT TO TO YOU TONIGHT ON THIS COUNCIL TACTIC.

SO THIS FALLS UNDER THIS CITY COUNCIL GOAL TO DOCUMENT AND CONTINUOUSLY IMPROVE BUSINESS PROCESSES.

THE COUNCIL TACTIC WAS TO EXPLORE CODIFICATION PROCESSES IN RELATION TO COUNCIL APPOINTMENTS.

AND IN FURTHER DISCUSSION WITH YOU, WE DETERMINED THERE ARE SEVERAL COMPONENTS THAT ARE IN THE RULES OF ORDER AND PROCEDURE THAT WILL ADDRESS TOPICS RAISED BY YOU DURING YOUR GOAL SETTING.

SO AS WE WERE DEVELOPING THE PROCEDURES, SEVERAL ELEMENTS WERE CONSIDERED, OF COURSE, AS I MENTIONED, YOUR INPUT FROM THE GOAL SETTING PROCESS.

WE CONSIDERED THE CITY CHARTER AND STATE LAW.

WE LOOKED AT WHAT WE ARE ALREADY DOING IN THE COUNCIL POLICY, AND THEN WE LOOKED AT OTHER LOCAL CITIES AND COMMON OR BEST PRACTICES.

THE MAIN FEATURES THAT WE WILL REVIEW TONIGHT ARE THE CODIFICATION OF THE COUNCIL APPOINTMENT AND ASSIGNMENT PROCESS.

WE'LL CLARIFY THE PROCESS FOR COUNCIL RESEARCH REQUEST.

WE'LL DEFINE A METHOD FOR COUNCIL TO REQUEST AGENDA ITEMS. WE'LL REFERENCE THE RECENTLY ADOPTED REMOTE COUNCIL MEMBER ATTENDANCE POLICY.

THE, UH, POLICY WILL CODIFY THE CURRENT PRACTICE OF PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE.

AND THEN WE'LL CLARIFY HOW COUNCIL WILL PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC INPUT WHILE STILL MAINTAINING EFFICIENCY OF CONDUCTING CITY BUSINESS.

SO THE RULES OF ORDER ARE CATEGORIZED INTO SIX SEC SECTIONS.

THE FIRST SECTION IS AUTHORITY.

THEN WE HAVE COUNCIL MEETINGS, RULES OF CONDUCT, PUBLIC HEARINGS, PUBLIC COMMENTS, VISITORS FORUM, AND RIGHT TO SPEAK.

AND THEN PROCEDURES ADMINISTRATION.

AND AS DAWN MENTIONED, AS WE, UM, REFERENCE, WE, WE HAVE A COPY FOR YOU AT YOUR PLACES.

SO AS WE GO THROUGH EACH SECTION, WE WILL REFERENCE WHERE THE AUTHORITY COMES FROM, WHETHER IT'S CITY CHARTER, STATE LAW, COUNCIL PRACTICE, OR POLICY, OR LOCAL OR COMMON PRACTICE.

SO, FOR EXAMPLE, SECTIONS 1.1 AND 1.2 COME DIRECTLY FROM THE CITY.

CHARTER SECTION THREE POINT 12 OF THE CITY CHARTER STATES THAT THE COUNCIL SHALL DETERMINE ITS OWN RULES OF PROCEDURE.

AND SECTION 3.02 OF THE CITY CHARTER STATES THAT THE MAYOR SHALL REPRESENT THE CITY ON ALL CEREMONIAL OCCASIONS.

NOW, AS WE MOVE THROUGH EACH SECTION, I'M MAINLY GOING TO FOCUS ON ITEMS THAT ARE NOT RULED BY CITY CHARTER OR STATE LAW.

AND I WILL PAUSE AT THE END OF EACH SECTION TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY COUNCIL QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION.

AND BEAR WITH ME, WE HAVE A LOT OF REFERENCE POINTS TO, TO DISCUSS TONIGHT.

SO I, I WILL BE REFERENCING MY NOTES QUITE A BIT.

SO SECTION 1.3, THIS CODIFIES THE CITY COUNCIL'S CURRENT PRACTICE OF HOW COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE OFFICIALLY PARTICIPATE IN COMMUNITY ACTIVITIES.

SECTION 1.4 CODIFIES THE COUNCIL'S CURRENT PRACTICE, DEFINING HOW COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE APPOINTED TO COUNCIL COMMITTEES, ADVISORY BOARDS, AND REGIONAL ASSIGNMENTS.

AND WE ALSO REFERENCED THE GOVERN GOVERNING DOCUMENTS FOR, UH, THAT WERE APPROVED BY THE AUDIT COMMITTEE, THE EDUCATION COMMITTEE, AND THE BUSINESS COMMITTEE.

AND THESE ARE ALSO AT YOUR PLACES, SECTION 1.5.

THIS IS RE REQUEST FOR RESEARCH OR INFORMATION.

WE ARE INTRODUCING THIS SECTION TO CLARIFY THE METHOD FOR HOW COUNCIL MEMBERS REQUEST RESEARCH AND OR INFORMATION ON A GIVEN TOPIC AND TO CODIFY HOW POLICY DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL BE HANDLED.

AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT MANY LOCAL CITIES DO A VERY SIMILAR PRACTICE ON HOW TO MANAGE COUNCIL REQUEST.

AND THIS IS THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, UM, THAT WE'LL PROVIDE FOR A, AN EFFICIENT RESPONSE AND ENSURE THAT ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE THE SAME INFORMATION.

SO MAYOR, THAT IS SECTION ONE, SO I'LL PAUSE HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION.

COUNCIL, MS. JUSTICE.

SELECTED AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.

UM, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT I THINK IT'S GOOD THAT WE'RE CODIFYING HERE THE COMMITTEES.

I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TALK IN THE COMMUNITY ABOUT HOW COMMITTEES ARE

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SO THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THAT TOGETHER.

I THINK THIS, UM, ESSENTIALLY JUST PUTS DOWN, UH, IN WRITING WHAT, UH, WE'VE HISTORICALLY DONE HERE.

SO I THINK, I THINK THAT'S GOOD.

UM, AND THEN I HAD A COMMENT ON 1.3.

YOU KNOW, IN, IN READING THIS, IT'S A LITTLE BIT VAGUE.

SO I MEAN, I THINK TO BE CLEAR ABOUT WHAT WE MEAN INSTEAD, A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, ACTUALLY APPROPRIATE, I THINK IN ONE OF THE COMMENTS TONIGHT, A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER REALLY CANNOT GO OUT TO A COMMUNITY EVENT, UH, SORT OF IN THEIR PERSONAL CAPACITY, RIGHT? IF WE'RE GOING TO A CITY FUNCTION WHERE WE ARE THERE AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, I THINK THAT'S WHAT THIS PROVISION IS INTENDING TO SORT OF GET AT.

AM I READING THIS CORRECTLY? IS THAT WHAT THAT PROVISION IS FOR? UH, WELL, IT, IT DOES MEAN THAT, BUT IT ALSO, UH, REALLY WHAT IT IT DIRECTLY REFERS TO IS IF YOU, UM, IF THE, IF YOU WERE GONNA GO TO AN HOA MEETING, UM, YOU ARE REPRESENTING YOURSELF AS A COUNCIL MEMBER AT THAT MEETING.

NOT THE CITY COUNCIL.

HOWEVER, IF YOU WERE PRESENTING A PROCLAMATION MM-HMM, THEN THAT WOULD BE REPRESENTING THE ENTIRE CITY COUNCIL ON PRESENTING A PROCLAMATION.

THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT.

I, I THINK IT SAYS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

I, WHEN I READ IT SEVERAL TIMES, IT JUST SEEMS A LITTLE BIT VAGUE, BUT YEAH, I THINK THAT IT DOES GET AT THE HEART OF, OF WHAT YOU WERE GETTING AT THERE.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS AT THIS TIME? OKAY, MS. MOVE FORWARD.

SECTION TWO COUNCIL MEETINGS.

SO THIS MAINLY DESCRIBES THE VARIOUS KINDS OF COUNCIL MEETINGS THAT ARE ALREADY DEFINED EITHER BY CITY CHARTER OR STATE LAW.

IN SECTION 2.2, WE'VE DEFINED THE CURRENT PRACTICE OF THE CITY MANAGER DEVELOPING THE AGENDA BASED ON COUNCIL POLICY, COUNCIL GOALS, AND THE REGULAR COURSE OF CITY BUSINESS.

WE'VE ALSO DEFINED A METHOD FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO REQUEST ITEMS TO BE ON THE AGENDA, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE WRITTEN REQUEST TO THE MAYOR ACCOMPANIED BY WRITTEN SUPPORT OF TWO OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS.

THIS IS A STAFF RECOMMENDATION BASED ON COMPARISON WITH OTHER LOCAL CITIES PRACTICES IN SECTION 2.7.

I'LL POINT OUT THAT COUNSEL RECENTLY ADOPTED THE VIDEO CONFERENCE CALL POLICY BY RESOLUTION 2332, AND THIS IS REFERENCED IN THE RULES OF PROCEDURE.

SECTION 2.8 REFERS TO STATE LAW SECTION 5 5 1 0.128 OF THE GOVERNMENT CODE, WHICH STATES THAT THE CITY SHALL MAKE A VIDEO AND AUDIO RECORDING OF EACH REGULARLY SCHEDULED OPEN MEETING THAT IS NOT A WORK SESSION OR SPECIAL CALLED MEETING.

NOW THIS IS THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT, AND AS YOU KNOW, WE RECORD ALL WORK SESSIONS AND MEETINGS THAT ARE HELD IN THIS ROOM WHERE WE HAVE THE RECORDING EQUIPMENT SET UP.

SO THAT COVERS SECTION TWO.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, MAYOR? ANYBODY? MR. DORIAN? THANK YOU.

I JUST, I JUST HAVE ONE, UH, QUESTION TO CLARIFY.

IN THE VIDEO CONFERENCING, UH, CALL 2.7, UM, IT REFERENCED THAT WE DID, UH, WE DID CONSIDER, UH, VIDEO CONFERENCING.

IS, IS THERE SOMEWHERE IT REFERENCES HOW MANY TIMES THAT WE CAN DO THAT WITHIN A YEAR? OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE REFERENCED HERE? IT'S, IT'S REFERENC IN THE VIDEO, UM, CONFERENCE POLICY ITSELF.

THANK YOU MR. DORIAN.

I'M, I'M SORRY, MR. BARRIOS.

UM, AND JUST TO PIGGYBACK OFF WHAT COUNCILMAN DORIAN WAS ASKING, SO WHEN WE POST THESE ONLINE, WILL WE ABLE TO HAVE A LINK THERE TO THAT RESOLUTION INTO GOVERNMENT CODE, JUST SO THAT IF WE'RE NOT STATING SPECIFICALLY, THEY WILL HAVE A PLACE TO GO TO? YES, WE CAN ADD THE LINKS TO THIS POLICY.

THE MINORITY HERE, UH, I WOULD AT THE VERY MINIMAL SUGGEST THAT WE CLARIFY WHAT WRITTEN SUPPORT IS.

AND, AND, UH, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR DOING ALL THIS, AMY.

I THINK IT'S, IT'S IMPORTANT PROCESS.

I KNOW SOMETHING'S THAT I'VE, UM, PERSONALLY BEEN PASSIONATE ABOUT AND I KNOW OTHERS AS WELL.

UM, SO THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS.

UM, I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, COMMENTS ON TWO, ON 2.2 A.

UM, THE SUGGESTION I HAVE, I KNOW RECENTLY WITH SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED IN PLANO, I WAS LEFT WATCHING A PLANO CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

AND, UH, I WAS WATCHING ONLINE AND I NOTICED THAT THEY HAVE A PLACE ON THEIR AGENDA WHERE THE MAYOR STATES, UM, IS THERE ANYBODY WHO HAS ANYTHING TO, UH, DIS TOPICS OF DISCUSSION FOR FUTURE, UH, AGENDAS? AND LET'S SAY COUNCILMAN CORKIN CORCORAN HAD SOMETHING HE WANTED TO ADD TO FUTURE AGENDA, HE WOULD TAKE 10, 20 SECONDS TO EXPLAIN IT.

HE'D LOOK FOR A SECOND.

IF THERE WAS A SECOND, LET'S SAY A SECOND AND THEN IT GETS PASSED, WE'LL PUT ON A FUTURE AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION.

UM, I WOULD LIKE, I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT WE AS A COUNCIL, ADOPT THAT AS A MORE PUBLIC WAY OF DOING THAT VERSUS, UM, WRITTEN, IF I'M IN

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IS IT GONNA BE A FORM, IS IT BY EMAIL? JUST SO THAT THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE TRANSPARENCY THERE, BUT I WOULD STRONGLY SUGGEST WE DO IT.

WE JUST ADDED SOMETHING CAN EASILY BE DONE BY, YOU KNOW, AND EVEN IF WE DECIDE, HEY, ONCE A MONTH WE'RE GONNA DO THAT, OR FIRST MEETING A MONTH, OR HOWEVER WE AS A COUNCIL DECIDE TO DO THAT.

BUT I, I THINK THERE'S, THERE ARE BETTER WAYS TO DO THAT, TO ADD THINGS TO THE AGENDA THAN, UH, WRITTEN SUPPORT AND WRITTEN LETTER TO THE MAYOR.

ANYONE WANT TO COMMENT ON THAT? MR. HUTCHEN RIDER? I ACTUALLY, I GUESS I'M CURIOUS.

I MEAN, I, I SEE ALL SEVEN OF US BEING EQUAL ON THIS, THIS BODY, AND I GUESS I, I QUESTION IF, IF I FELT STRONGLY ENOUGH, WHICH, I MEAN, I'M GOING ON MY SIXTH YEAR AND I HAVEN'T, SO THIS WOULD PROBABLY BE VERY FEW AND FAR BETWEEN.

I'M JUST ASKING THE QUESTION, WHY, WHY COULDN'T WE ADD SOMETHING TO THE AGENDA? WHETHER WE DO AN OPEN FORUM OR NOT? I'M NOT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT, BUT I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEONE FEELS LIKE THERE'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT ON THE AGENDA, I MEAN, AS LONG AS IT'S NOT SOMETHING, I MEAN, I THINK AS LONG AS IT'S RELEVANT TO, TO THE CITY, I GUESS I'M, I'M, I'M ASKING WHY, WHY WOULD I NEED TO GO AND TRY AND SEEK OUT TWO ADDITIONAL COUNCIL PEOPLE TO HAVE IT ADDED TO THE AGENDA? WHY, WHY COULDN'T I SIMPLY MAKE THE REQUEST IF I WANTED TO BRING UP, I, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING RIGHT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT LET, I'LL JUST PICK SOMETHING OUT OF BLUE THAT I'D LIKE PLACED ON THE AGENDA.

YOU KNOW, GENERATORS FOR ALL CITY BELT BUILDINGS.

I'M, I'M NOT SURE WHY I NEED TO GO AND TALK TO TWO COUNCIL PEOPLE AND CONVINCE THEM WHY I WANT THAT ON THE AGENDA.

I MEAN, IF WE PLACE IT ON THE AGENDA, I BROUGHT UP THE TOPIC AND EVERYBODY SAYS, NO, WE DON'T WANNA DO THAT, BUT WOULD GO VERY QUICKLY.

I, I, I FEEL THAT WE'RE ALL EQUAL AND THAT WE OUGHT TO HAVE IT.

IT FEELS LIKE WE OUGHT TO HAVE THAT RIGHT AS A CITY COUNCIL PERSON TO BE ABLE TO PLAY SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA WITHOUT HAVING TO GO AND LOBBY.

AND I MEAN, IT'S, IT THAT STARTS TO TAKE ON A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT I'VE SEEN HAPPEN DOWN IN DALLAS AND THINGS STARTED TO GET REAL SIDEWAYS BECAUSE I KNOW IN DALLAS, AND I'VE HEARD THIS INFORMALLY, THAT THERE'S A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, BACK DISCUSSION, HEY, JOE, IF YOU'LL, IF YOU'LL HELP ME PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA, THEN I'LL HELP YOU PUT SOMETHING ON, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.

AND I DON'T WANNA SEE THAT MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION.

I MEAN, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT, YOU KNOW, IF, IF ANYONE ON THIS DAIS WANTS TO PUT SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO IT IF THE OTHER, THE OTHER, IF, IF FOUR PEOPLE ARE AGAINST WHATEVER THE AGENDA ITEM WOULD POSSIBLY BE, IT CAN BE VOTED DOWN VERY QUICKLY AND THE MEETING MOVES ON.

SO, UM, THAT, THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS TO, TO, AND I, SO I SORT OF SUPPORT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, DAN, AND, BUT I DON'T KNOW, I THINK WE'RE IN THE SAME, WE'RE ON THE SAME PATH.

WE'RE KIND OF IN THE SAME, WE'RE, YEAH, SAME CATEGORY THERE.

BUT I'M NOT QUITE SURE HOW TO, TO FORMALIZE THAT.

I JUST, I JUST DON'T THINK IT, I SHOULD HAVE TO GO OUT AND TRY AND POLITIC TO, OF MY MEMBERS, TWO OF MY FELLOW COUNCIL PEOPLE TO TRY AND GET SOMETHING PLACED ON AN AGENDA.

SO I'LL, I'LL JUST SAY THAT.

THANK KEN, YOU, MR. MAG, YOU WANNA ADDRESS THAT? OR YOU, OR DO YOU WANT ME TO MOVE ON? WELL, I MEAN, I, I JUST FOR CONTEXT ONLY, UM, COUNCILMAN HURI, UM, AS WE VISITED WITH STAFF IN OTHER CITIES, UM, THE REQUIREMENT TO HAVE AT LEAST ONE OTHER COUNCIL PERSON IS JUST A CHECK SOMETIMES ON FOLKS WHO, UM, HAVE A BIG AGENDA AND THAT, THAT LARGE AGENDA, 'CAUSE YOU'RE, EVEN IF YOU, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF YOU JUST PUT IT ON THE AGENDA AND YOU HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AND IT DOESN'T GO ANYWHERE, IT STILL TAKES TIME AND IT STILL TAKES SOME STAFF PREPARATION.

AND SO WHAT, WHAT IT'S REALLY, IT'S REALLY KIND OF A CHECK ON SOMEBODY WHO MIGHT NOT APPROACH IT REASONABLY AND MIGHT NOT APPROACH IT RESPECTFULLY OF THE, OF THE, THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS.

AND, AND WE HAVE NEVER HAD THAT HERE, BUT WE HAVE HAD EXAMPLES OF THAT IN OTHER CITIES.

AND SO, UM, AGAIN, SOMETIMES, UH, CI SOME CITIES ONLY REQUIRE ONE OTHER, YOU KNOW, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER TO CONCUR TO PUT IT ON.

UM, BUT MOST CITIES HAVE SOME KIND OF A, OF A PROCESS JUST TO HELP, UM, WITH THE, UM, THE POSSIBILITY OF, OF SOMEONE JUST CONSTANTLY HAVING THEIR OWN AGENDA AND THAT, THAT AGENDA STARTING TO INTERRUPT AND TAKE AWAY FROM THE FULL COUNCIL'S AGENDA.

RIGHT.

THANK YOU FOR THE BACKGROUND, MS. JUSTICE.

ARE WE, ARE YOU DONE WITH THAT POINT OR NO? UH, I JUST WANTED TO BOUNCE BACK OFF THAT AND THEN MOVE ON TO MY SECOND POINT.

OR DID YOU HAVE, CAN WE FINISH TALKING ABOUT THAT ONE? YEAH, I DID.

I WAS GONNA PIGGYBACK ON WHAT COUNCILMAN HUTCHIN RIDER WAS SAYING.

I, I AGREE EXACTLY FOR WHAT MR. MAGNER SAID.

I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT COUNCILMAN HUTCHIN RIDER WOULD BRING SOMETHING GREAT LIKE GENERATORS FOR ALL PUBLIC BUILDINGS.

BUT MY CONCERN WOULD BE THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE WANT, UH, I WANNA PUT IT ON THE AGENDA, YOU KNOW, FREE ICE CREAM FRIDAYS, OR, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I MEAN, OF COURSE IT WOULD BE SOMETHING FAR MORE POLITICAL AS YOU POINTED OUT, THAN

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SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND SO I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A MINIMAL CHECK AND BALANCE, UM, YOU KNOW, TO, SO I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS PROVISION, AND TO COUNCILMAN BARROW'S POINT ABOUT HAVING AN OPEN FORUM, UM, GOD FORBID, I FORGET TO SAY IT ON MONDAY NIGHT AND ON TUESDAY, I THINK, OH, I REALLY, REALLY NEED TO TALK ABOUT THIS NEXT MONDAY.

I THINK IT, IT CAN'T BE ONE OR THE OTHER, IN MY OPINION.

IF YOU WANTED TO ADD IN, LIKE YOU SAID, ONCE A MONTH WHERE WE, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY TALK ABOUT THESE THINGS, FINE, BUT I THINK THAT WE NEED TO HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE AS WELL.

IF, IF, AGAIN YOU FORGET THAT EVENING THAT YOU WANTED TO STATE IT PUBLICLY AT THE MEETING, UM, THAT YOU STILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TRY AND GET DONE FOR THAT NEXT WEEK, UH, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.

SO, UM, THOSE WERE MY 2 CENTS ON THAT PROVISION, MR. CHU.

WELL, THIS IS WHEN YOU HAVE A PROCEDURE POLICY, IT'S GOOD TO HAVE DETAILED PROCEDURE AND POLICY.

UH, PRACTICE HAS BEEN THERE SO FAR, WORKING GRID, UH, BUT YOU KNOW, MOVING FORWARD DOWN THE ROAD, IT MIGHT NOT BE THE SAME.

UH, BECAUSE WHEN IT CLEARS SOMEONE'S MIND THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING, SOMETHING, AND THAT MEANS SOMEBODY ELSE IS GONNA THINK THAT MAYBE WE SHOULD NOT HAVE AND DO SOMETHING.

SO, I AGREE WITH THIS, HAVING SOME SOMETHING WRITTEN POLICY, BUT WE NEED, WE CAN DISCUSS AND SEE HOW, WHAT'S THE BEST WAY, BUT ALSO SAME TIME THAT, YOU KNOW, WE GET THINGS DONE VERY EFFECTIVELY WITHOUT FIGHTING EACH OTHER OVER THE TIME.

YOU KNOW, I SEE THAT THE PRACTICE HAS BEEN WORKING VERY WELL IN REJECTION.

SOME OTHER CITY, SOMETIMES YOU BRING UP, NOT YOU.

SOME, SOMETIMES PEOPLE BRING SOME, JUST FOR THE SAKE OF POLITICS, KNOWING THAT OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS, THEY'RE NOT GONNA AGREE, BUT THROW A PUNCH HERE AND THERE.

SOMETIMES IT HAPPEN AND NOTHINGS GET DONE BECAUSE NOW SOME OF THE GOOD THINGS GOES DOWN THE HILL BECAUSE, BECAUSE OF JUST PURE POLITICS.

SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE SEE WHAT HAS BEEN OUR PRACTICE, WHAT HAS BEEN WORKING, AND TRY TO FOLLOW AND COME UP WITH SOME KIND OF PROCEDURE.

UH, OTHERWISE THIS WILL, THIS COULD BE AN ISSUE DOWN THE ROAD, NOT WITH THIS COUNCIL, MAYBE IN THE FUTURE COUNCIL.

I JUST DON'T WANNA SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, WATCHING FROM HOME TV, WATCHING THE COUNCIL MEETING, AND THEY'RE FIGHTING BECAUSE OF, SO THAT'S MY, JUST 2 CENTS.

JOE, ARE YOU WANTING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE OR? YES, SIR.

CONCERN NOTED BY THE CITY MANAGER THAT HE WOULD THEN BRING IT TO THE MAYOR, AND IF THE MAYOR MAKES THE DETERMINATION THAT WE NEED TO GO OUT AND GET TWO, TWO PEOPLE, TWO ADDITIONAL CITY COUNCIL PEOPLE TO, TO, IN ORDER TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.

PLEASE GO AHEAD.

YEAH, MR. MAYOR, I, UM, I JUST WANTED TO, TO ADD THAT I SEE REALLY NOTHING FUNCTIONALLY WRONG WITH ALL THE SUGGESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE ON THIS.

AND I THINK THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH HAVING TWO DIFFERENT AVENUES TO PROVIDE THIS.

I UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO MANAGE THE AGENDA TO WHERE IT'S, IT'S MANAGEABLE FOR ALL OF US TO, TO RUN AN EFFICIENT MEETING THOUGH.

SO, UM, WHEN IT COMES TO, WHEN IT COMES TO END OF MEETING DELIBERATION ON DIFFERENT TOPICS FOR FUTURE MEETINGS, UH, IF, IF WE GO THAT ROUTE AND ADD THAT IN THERE, I FEEL LIKE THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME SORT OF TIME CAP OR MAYBE THE PERSON HAS ONE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT AND THEN CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS, BUT DEBATE ON THE TOPIC ITSELF, RIGHT? THERE NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING IN THERE FOR OPEN MEETINGS ACT, UH, COMPLIANCE IF POSSIBLE IS REALLY MY ONLY, MY ONLY SALIENT POINT.

OTHER THAN THAT I AGREE .

ALRIGHT, MR. COGER, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS, MR. BARROS.

I'M GONNA COME BACK TO YOU JUST TO, ON THIS ONE NOTE, I WOULD JUST ADD THAT, IN MY OPINION, I THINK IT IS A BETTER PRACTICE FOR US TO PRESENT IT PRIOR TO GET SOME, UM, AGREEMENT AMONG COUNCIL SO THAT OUR STAFF CAN HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE PREPARED AND PRESENT IN A PROFESSIONAL MANNER AS OPPOSED TO FLYING, YOU KNOW, SWINGING FROM, YOU KNOW, LEFT FIELD OR OFF YOUR HIP.

SO I, I THINK IT IS A BETTER PRACTICE IF WE DO IT THAT WAY, AS RECOMMENDED.

SO THAT, THAT'S MY POSITION ON IT.

MR. BARRIOS, PLEASE GO AHEAD WITH YOUR OTHER, UH, STATEMENT.

YES, MR. HUDSON RIDER.

SO I GUESS MY POINT WAS, I WASN'T SAYING THAT WE JUST BROUGHT IT UP, YOU KNOW, AT THE TIME OF THE MEETING.

I'M JUST SIMPLY SAYING THAT IT, IT SEEMS TO ME THERE OUGHT TO BE A MECHANISM THAT IF THAT, IF I, IF I FEEL LIKE THERE'S AN AGENDA ITEM AND IT NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT FORTH, I GUESS I'M STILL QUESTIONING HAVING TO GO AND GET TWO ADDITIONAL CITY COUNCIL PEOPLE IN SOME FORMAL FASHION.

I GUESS, YOU KNOW, COULD, COULD THERE BE THE OPPORTUNITY WHERE, I MEAN, IT SAYS IN HERE THAT THE CITY MANAGER SHALL ESTABLISH THE CITY COUNTY, CITY COUNCIL MEETING AGENDAS BASED ON THE POLICY DIRECTION OF THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.

SO, CAN THERE BE, COULD WE PUT A PROVISION IN THERE THAT SAYS WE CAN, WE CAN PUT SOMETHING FORWARD TO THE CITY MANAGER.

THE CITY MANAGER FEELS THAT WE'RE, WE'RE BEING, UH, I'M NOT SURE THE RIGHT WORDS, IF THE, IF THERE'S

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I JUST, TO ME, ASK YOU, TO ME, THIS JUST FEELS VERY, IT JUST FEELS, IT JUST, IT FEELS AWKWARD.

IT FEELS AWKWARD AND FEELS VERY RESTRICTIVE AS A CITY COUNCIL PERSON TO NOT BE ABLE TO, TO HAVE SOMETHING PLACED ON THE AGENDA.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE WHAT I'M ASKING, SAYING I HEAR WHAT YOU SAY.

WOULD YOU FEEL BETTER ABOUT SAYING ANY COUNCIL MEMBER COULD ASK CITY MANAGER TO CHECK WITH EACH COUNCIL MEMBER AND SEE IF WE GET ANY, ANYBODY TO AGREE? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? CAN, CAN I, YEAH.

JUST, JUST, JUST SAY, I THINK THIS MIGHT BE HELPFUL.

SO, UM, COUNCILMAN HUTCH, I IF, UM, SECTION 1.5 I THINK EITHER GETS AT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING OR WE COULD REALLY ADAPT IT, BECAUSE HERE YOU'LL SEE A, A COUNCIL MEMBER MAY REQUEST INFORMATION OR RESEARCH FROM STAFF ON A GIVEN TOPIC THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER REQUEST FOR POLICY DIRECTION WILL BE BROUGHT TO THE FULL COUNCIL AT A REGULAR MEETING FOR CONSIDERATION.

UM, AND THAT'S WHEN THE, THE, THE REQUEST OR THE POLICY DIRECTION IN THE MANAGER'S, UH, DISCRETION IS NEEDED FROM THE FULL COUNCIL.

SO I, I KIND OF FEEL LIKE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

SO TO ME IT'S TWO, TWO WAYS.

YOU KNOW, JUST ANY OF YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT YOU WANNA LEARN MORE ABOUT AND POSSIBLY DISCUSS, YOU COULD COME TO ME AND SAY, HEY, I'D REALLY LIKE YOU TO DO SOME RESEARCH ON THIS.

I'D LIKE YOU TO GATHER SOME BACKGROUND.

I'M THINKING ABOUT TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE IT AS A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM.

UM, SO, SO THAT COULD BE, THAT COULD BE ONE WAY AND THEN IF, IF, IF THROUGH THAT PROCESS, I NEED TO COME TO THE WHOLE COUNCIL TO SAY, OKAY, DO I, DO WE WANNA MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS? THAT'S A MORE DIRECT WAY.

YOU DON'T, THAT THAT COUNCIL PERSON AND I COULD TALK, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO FIND ANOTHER, ANOTHER ONE OR TWO PEOPLE TO DO THAT.

HOWEVER, IF YOU WANT, IF YOU WANNA JUST BYPASS ME ALTOGETHER AND GO TO THE COUNCIL AND SAY, WHETHER IT'S IN WRITING OR WHETHER IT'S ONCE A MONTH ON THE AGENDA, JUST SAY TO ANOTHER COUNCIL PERSON, HEY, I'D REALLY LIKE TO, TO TO REVIEW THIS IN THE FUTURE.

DO YOU CONCUR? IT'S AN IMPORTANT ISSUE.

YES, I DO.

WELL THEN THAT'S THE OTHER WAY THAT, THAT, THAT'S THE OTHER STRATEGY THAT YOU COULD DO, THAT YOU COULD DO TO GET IT ON THE AGENDA.

BUT IF YOU CAN, IF WHAT 1.5 SAYS IS IF YOU, IF YOU COME TO THE CITY MANAGER AND ASK FOR RESEARCH, WHICH I THINK THE WORD WE USE IS EXTENSIVE, WOULD REQUIRE EXTENSIVE STAFF TIME.

OR IF IT'S POLICY AND I NEED, I NEED DIRECTION, THEN I WOULD TAKE, WITH THAT COUNT WORKING WITH THAT COUNCIL PERSON, I WOULD COME TO THE FULL COUNCIL AND ASK FOR THAT GUIDANCE.

SO, I DON'T KNOW, LIKE I SAY, IT MAY NEED TO BE TWEAKED A LITTLE BIT, BUT I THINK IT'S A, YEAH, I, I MEAN, I LIKE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND I, I AGREE WITH YOU.

YES, SIR.

UNDER THAT, UNDER THAT SCENARIO.

UM, SO I MEAN, I, I THINK THAT GETS TO WHAT MY CONCERN IS, IF YOU WILL.

UM, I AGREE.

I JUST, I, IT SEEMS LIKE THE WORDING MIGHT BE MAYBE NEEDS A LITTLE BIT OF TWEAKING THERE.

I AGREE.

IN ALL HONESTY, IF YOU COULD MAYBE LOOK AT THAT, DON, I SURE I, 'CAUSE I, I, I, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.

I MEAN, I THINK IT'S COMPLETE AND THEN, THEN YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO OBVIOUSLY MANAGE THE AGENDA SO THAT WE DON'T END UP WITH 37 THINGS ON ONE NIGHT AND TWO THE NEXT WEEK OR WHATEVER THE CASE MIGHT BE.

SO I GET THAT COMPLETELY.

AND I'M CERTAINLY NOT WANTING TO PROPOSE THINGS WHERE WE'RE TYING UP CITY STAFF JUST TO, TO BURN HOURS.

I WOULD NEVER, EVER WANNA PROPOSE THAT.

SO YES, SIR.

SO I LIKE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND I AGREE WITH YOU.

IF WE CAN JUST CODIFY THAT IN A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A FASHION, IF THAT MAKES, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

DID YOU HAVE IT COMING IN, MAYOR, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE WHAT I'M SAYING? YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT I WAS ASKING IF YOU WANTED .

I'M SORRY YOU STARTED.

I DON'T KNOW.

ALRIGHT, MAYOR, CAN I MAKE ONE COMMENT ABOUT PLEASE, UH, THE SUGGESTION TO PUT, PUT IT ON THE AGENDA AS, AS COUNCIL MEMBER AGENDA REQUESTS, ONE ISSUE THAT COULD COME UP WITH THAT IS YOU WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DISCUSS IT AT, AT AT ANY POINT.

I MEAN, IF, IF, IF THERE WAS SOMEONE AT THE MEETING WHO DISAGREED WITH PUTTING THAT ON THE AGENDA, YOU COULD GET INTO A DISCUSSION ON THE MERITS OF IT BEING PUT ON THE AGENDA, WHICH IS A VIOLATION OF THE ACT 'CAUSE IT'S NOT POSTED.

SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT UP TO YOUR ATTENTION.

AND I THINK THAT'D BE SOMETHING THAT OBVIOUSLY WE AS A COUNCIL WOULD NEED TO BE AWARE OF.

'CAUSE I, I SEE IT AS TREATED LIKE A MOTION.

JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU MAKE A MOTION, YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A SECOND.

IF YOU GET A SECOND, GREAT.

IF YOU DON'T, WELL IT'S DEAD.

YOU KNOW, YOU STATE IT'S MY RESPONSIBILITY THAT IF I WANTED TO GET SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA OR JOE ONE, TWO OR WHOEVER, THEN WE STATE IT, WE LOOK FOR A SECOND.

IF THERE'S A SECOND IT MOVES ON, IT GOES, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THE C MANAGER HAS TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS COMING UP LOOKS LIKE AND WHERE IT FITS IN AND MAKE THOSE DECISIONS.

BUT TO CLARIFY, UM, IF YOU TAKE A VOTE THAT'S COUNCIL ACTION.

SO HOW ARE OTHER CITIES DOING IT? LIKE PLANO DOES IT THAT WAY? I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE VOTING ON IT TO GO ON THE NEXT AGENDA.

NO, IT'S NOT ON THE NEXT AGENDA WITH, WE CAN CLARIFY JUST FOR FUTURE WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY, BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT YOU COULD TAKE A VOTE TO PUT A SPECIFIC ITEM ON ANOTHER AGENDA.

WE CAN CHECK WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY THOUGH.

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'CAUSE THEY'RE DEFINITELY DOING IT.

IT IT'S PART OF THEIR AGENDA.

OKAY, MS. JUSTICE.

YEAH, JUST ON THAT POINT, I THINK MY CONCERN IS IT CAN LEAD TO POLITICAL GRANDSTANDING, RIGHT? SURE.

IF YOU WANNA, YOU KNOW, IT, IT BECOMES AN OPEN MIC FOR YOU TO, YOU KNOW, TRY AND SHAME YOUR OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS IF, GOD FORBID THEY DON'T LIKE THE TOPIC THAT YOU'VE BROUGHT UP OR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER.

I MEAN, THAT'S MY CONCERN.

I DON'T THINK ANYONE HERE WOULD USE IT FOR THAT PURPOSE.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE WILL BE FUTURE COUNCILS AND WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT WHAT WE CODIFY HERE.

UM, AND THEN TO COUNCIL, COUNCILMAN HUT RE'S POINT, I THINK IN PRACTICE, I THINK WHAT MR. MAGNER SAID IS RIGHT, YOU KNOW, YOU GO AND YOU EXPRESS A TOPIC THAT YOU WANT TO BE DISCUSSED.

BUT THE REALITY IS, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, A FUTURE COUNCIL, PERHAPS THERE'S A MAYOR AND A, A CITY MANAGER WHO DON'T WANNA HEAR WHAT THAT COUNCIL MEMBER HAS TO SAY.

BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO BE ON THE AGENDA.

THERE NEEDS TO BE A MECHANISM WHERE YOU CAN GO TO OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS AND SAY, NO, NO, WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS THIS TOPIC.

IT NEEDS TO BE ON THE AGENDA.

AND SO I I I THINK THAT THIS NEEDS TO BE IN HERE JUST FOR THAT PROTECTION.

UM, SHOULD SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPEN, OUR CITY MANAGER AND MAYOR WOULDN'T DO THAT.

UM, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THERE'LL BE A DIFFERENT CITY MANAGER AND A DIFFERENT MAYOR AND MANY YEARS FROM NOW.

SO COULD, COULD I ASK PROTECTION IS IMPORTANT MAYBE A, THE, A HYBRID OR COMPROMISE , UM, IF, UH, UH, COUNCIL RIOS TO, TO YOUR POINT OF WANTING TO MAKE SURE IT'S TRANSPARENT AND, UM, WHAT IF, WHAT IF THE, UM, THE PROCESS WAS YOU, YOU SUBMIT AND WE COULD DO, IF IT'S, IF IT'S A FORM THAT YOU WANT, OR WE COULD, WE COULD SAY IT HAS TO BE A MEMO TO THE MAYOR, WHATEVER.

BUT THEN WE, UH, ACKNOWLEDGED THAT IN THE, IN THE PUBLIC MEETING AND THAT WE WERE, THAT WE HAD GOT, WE HAD RECEIVED, WE, WE ACKNOWLEDGED THE RECEIPT OF THE REQUEST TO, UH, TO PUT THIS ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA.

AND THAT CITY STAFF WAS GOING TO EMBARK ON THAT.

IT GETS AT ALLOWING THE COUNCIL PERSON TO SPEND A LITTLE BIT OF TIME AND BE MORE ARTICULATE ABOUT WHY THEY WANT IT ON THE AGENDA.

AND THAT CAN, THAT'S AVAILABLE.

AND OF COURSE, THAT THAT WOULD, THE FORM OR THE MEMO, OR THE EMAIL, WHATEVER IT IS, WOULD BE A PUBLIC RECORD ITSELF THAT'S TRANSPARENT AND WE COULD ACKNOWLEDGE THE RECEIPT OF THAT.

AND THEN YOU DON'T HAVE, YOU DON'T, UH, TO, TO A COUPLE OF THE CONCERNS.

YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE TIME AND HOW LONG THAT WOULD TAKE TO KIND OF TALK THROUGH THAT.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, POLITICAL, YOU KNOW, POSTURING AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

AND WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW WE, HOW WE PROCEDURALLY HANDLE IT.

IF, IF THERE'S DEBATE AND THERE'S, I, I DON'T KNOW, IT JUST COULD BE, IT COULD, IT COULD ACCOMPLISH A COUPLE OF THE OBJECTIVES THAT I'M HEARING, UM, WRITTEN, BUT ACKNOWLEDGE IT PUBLICLY BEFORE STAFF LAUNCHES ON IT.

MR. CORCORAN, YOU HAVE A COMMENT THERE? UH, YEAH, I TURNED MY MIC OFF.

UM, BUT REAL QUICK, I MEAN, 2.2 A TO COUNCIL MEMBER HUTCHIN RIDER'S, MAYBE TO ADDRESS THAT SPECIFIC CONCERN.

THE ONLY SUGGESTION I WAS GONNA MAKE IS SPECIFY THE INTENTION BEHIND THAT MECHANISM.

SO IF, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, IF AN INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBER WANTS TO PLACE AN ITEM ON THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING AGENDA AND THE MAYOR DISAGREES, OR THE MAYOR DOES NOT WANT, YOU KNOW, IF I DON'T KNOW THE TYPE WITH, WITH THE LANGUAGE THERE THOUGH, SPECIFY THE INTENT OF THAT, RIGHT? THAT IT WOULD, IT WOULDN'T, THE MAYOR WOULDN'T HAVE A VETO.

IT IS JUST SIMPLY DELIVERED TO THE MAYOR AS THE PRESIDING OFFICIAL OF THE COUNCIL.

IF THE, IF IT'S A, IF IT'S A COUNCIL MEMBER AND ONE OR TWO OTHER COUNCILMEN, THEN WE WOULD, THAT WOULD BE THE DIRECTION TO PUT I UNDERSTAND.

MAYBE IT'S IMPLICIT IN THERE THAT THAT'S IF THE MAYOR DISAGREES.

UM, OKAY.

BUT I JUST THINK THE WHOLE REASON THAT EXISTS RIGHT, IS AS THE ARBITER OF WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA.

IF THE MAYOR DIDN'T WANT IT ON THE AGENDA, THEN AS WE WERE DISCUSSING, YOU WOULD HAVE THREE PEOPLE THAT COULD PUT IT ON THERE.

AND PUBLICLY ACKNOWLEDGING IT? ABSOLUTELY.

UM, BUT IF IT'S, IF WE ALL THINK IT'S IMPLICIT, THEN IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL.

JUST TRY TO OKAY.

BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO YOUR NEXT THING, DAN, WOULD EVERYONE BE SOMEWHAT IN FAVOR OF THE LAST ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF A WRITTEN DOCUMENT THAT SHOWS THE TRANSPARENCY LIKE MR. MAGNER WAS SUGGESTING AND PUBLICLY ACKNOWLEDGING IT AS YEAH.

I THINK THAT'S A DIRECTION WE'D BE INTERESTED IN GOING.

I THINK MOST OF US, MR. BARRIOS.

YEAH, I, I WOULD BE OPEN TO THAT.

I, I THINK THAT'S A, THAT'S A MIDDLE ROAD COMPROMISE.

OBVIOUSLY.

IT'S NOT WHAT I WOULD A HUNDRED PERCENT PREFER, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I FEEL THAT'S A COMPROMISE.

UH, I WOULD, PERHAPS IT'S AS SIMPLE AS A, I DON'T KNOW, A FORM.

WE, I DON'T KNOW.

DO WE TURN IT TO AMY OR TURN IT TO YOU THAT SHE MIGHT HAVE, JUST LIKE SHE HAS A PUBLIC COMMENT FORM.

MAYBE WE CAN JUST GRAB A FORM OFF OF HER, FILL IT OUT, TURN IT BACK, AND THEN SHE HANDS IT TO YOU.

AND AT SOME POINT THROUGHOUT THE MEETING OR PRIOR TO THIS MEETING, COUNCILMAN BARRIOS, YOU KNOW, ENTER THIS DA DA DA AND THEN MOVE ON.

GOTCHA.

NOW, WOULD THAT REQUIRE A SECOND OR A THIRD? 'CAUSE THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN HERE, IT WOULD REQUIRE A, IT'S NOT A, YOU NOT VOTING ON IT, RIGHT? THAT'S, UH, YES, SIR.

THAT'S UP TO, THAT'S

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UP TO THE SEVEN OF YOU.

IF YOU WANT IT TO BE A SECOND, OR IF YOU WANT IT TO BE A THIRD, WE, WE WILL DO WHATEVER YOU, YOU'D LIKE.

ANYTHING.

I, I'M IN FAVOR OF HOW IT'S WRITTEN.

WHICH IS, I, I DIDN'T HEAR YOU.

UH, I'M IN FAVOR OF HOW IT'S WRITTEN.

HE WAS ASKING IF YOU NEED ONE MORE PERSON OR TWO MORE PEOPLE.

I'M IN FAVOR OF HOW IT'S WRITTEN.

I'M IN FAVOR OF A SECOND, BUT NOT A THIRD.

SO ONE LESS THAN WADE WAS WRITTEN.

UH, I THINK IT'S, IT IS IMPORTANT TO HAVE LIKE SECOND, THIRD ONE, UH, BECAUSE I THINK WE WILL AVOID MANY, MANY PROBLEM DOWN THE ROAD IF THERE IS ANY HAPPEN, UH, SO FAR, IF ANYTHING'S IMPORTANT, IF OUR PRACTICE, I SEE THAT MY OBSERVATION, THAT EVEN THE IDEA CAME FROM ONE SINGLE COUNCIL MEMBERS, IT'S A GOOD IDEA.

IT GETS TO THE AGENDA TODAY.

SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S ONLY THOSE, UH, THE POLICY ARE WRITTEN REALLY FOR CRITICAL TIME.

SO IT'S NOT JUST EVERY DAY, EVERY, YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE TIME ONE PERSON COMING UP WITH THE IDEA THAT THAT WILL GET TO THE AGENDA.

, IT'S ONLY THAT THOSE, THOSE FEW MOMENT.

SO, I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT.

I APOLOGIZE.

SO I THINK THAT'S, UH, I, I SUPPORT TO HAVE THIS TWO PERSON TO BE ON THE AGENDA.

OTHERWISE, EVEN IF THE MAIL MAY OR SOMETHING IS NOT GONNA HOLD, STILL CAN GET TO THE AGENDA.

I, MR. , I GUESS WHAT I WAS HEARING THOUGH IS THIS CLAUSE WOULD ONLY KICK INTO PLACE IF, FOR EXAMPLE, LEMME JUST GO BACK TO MY GENERATOR EXAMPLE.

IF I, IF I WENT TO DON AND SAID, DONNA, I'D REALLY LIKE TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA TO TALK ABOUT GENERATORS AND ALL MEETINGS, AND DON SAID, NO, DON'T WANT TO, DON'T WANNA PUT THAT ON THERE.

DON'T WANNA SPEND TIME ON IT, THEN TO ME, 2.2 POINT A TO, IF I UNDERSTOOD WHAT COUNCILPERSON JUSTICE WAS SAYING, THAT'S THE SAFETY NET THERE, THAT WOULD BE IN THERE.

SO I GUESS I, I SEE IT A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, UH, COUNCILMAN BARRIOS, JUST FROM THE STANDPOINT OF IF YOU WANNA PUT SOMETHING ON THERE, IF YOU GIVE IT TO DON, DON GOES, YEP, LET US, LET US WORK ON IT.

WE'LL GET IT ON A FUTURE AGENDA, THEN I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO EXECUTE 2.2.

A 2.2 POINT A IS PURELY THE SAFETY NET.

IS THAT IS, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT I WAS HEARING.

I THINK COUNCILMAN SHAEL HITS THE NAIL ON THE HEAD, RIGHT? IT'S DURING A CRITICAL MOMENT WHERE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, GOD FORBID WE HAVE A ROGUE CITY MANAGER OR WHATEVER, THAT, THAT WON'T LISTEN TO THE COUNCIL, THAT WON'T PUT THINGS ON THE AGENDA.

AS COUNCILMAN SHAEL POINTED OUT, ANYTIME ANY OF US WANTS SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA, IT HAPPENS.

OUR, OUR STAFF LISTENS TO US.

IT'S GREAT.

BUT IN A CRITICAL MOMENT WHERE YOU HAVE A FUTURE COUNCIL OR A FUTURE CITY MANAGER THAT IS NOT, UH, YOU KNOW, COOPERATING, THAT'S YOUR SAFETY NET.

AND I, I WOULD AGREE, I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT COMPLETELY.

YOU GOT IT.

ALRIGHT, MR. BARRO, YOU HAD ANOTHER TOPIC OR ANOTHER ISSUE YOU WANTED TO BRING UP? YES, SIR.

UM, AND THIS IS JUST KIND OF A QUESTION.

I, I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE A, IF I REALLY KNOW WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY HERE.

UM, BUT IN THE, UH, SOMEWHERE IN THE 2.7, 2.8, UM, I, I JUST FEEL LIKE, AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE PLACE TO PUT IT, BUT MAYBE WE CAN ADD A LINE STATING THAT WE WILL MAKE, UH, EFFORTS, UM, TO OUR BEST ABILITY TO MAKE ALL OF PUBLIC TO RECORD AND BROADCAST ALL I'M THINKING SPECIFICALLY, I KNOW WE HEARD ABOUT, UM, WHEN WE HAD THE GOAL SETTING SESSION, UM, HOW THAT WAS NOT RECORDED OR BROADCAST.

AND, UM, WHILE WE CANNOT PREDICT, ESPECIALLY IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS WHILE WE'RE IN THIS TEMPORARY SPACE, WE CANNOT PREDICT EVERYTHING.

UM, AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK OUT OF GOOD FAITH, UH, TO THE COMMUNITY, IT'D BE GREAT TO FIND A PLACE TO ADD SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF EFFORTS WILL BE MADE TO RECORD AND BROADCAST ALL PUBLIC MEETINGS, INCLUDING GOAL SESSIONS OR WHATEVER OTHER SPECIAL MEETINGS.

BECAUSE AS WRITTEN, IT DOESN'T INCLUDE THOSE SPECIAL MEETINGS.

UM, I DON'T KNOW, COUNSEL, AND I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT WORD ON THAT, BUT I THINK, 'CAUSE I THINK WE WOULD ALL AGREE, WE ALL HAVE THAT DESIRE TO BE TRANSPARENT.

AND WHILE THERE'S ALWAYS GONNA BE PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT FIND A WAY TO SAY WE'RE NOT, AT THE SAME TIME, THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT CANONIZING IT IN THE RENT FORM THAT SHOWS LOOK, THE, THE, UH, INTENT AND THE EFFORT IS THERE TO BE, TO, TO CONTINUE TO BE TRANSPARENT AND BY RECORDING AND BROADCASTING, AND WE WILL MAKE THE EFFORTS TO DO SO.

THAT, ONLY BECAUSE THE, UM, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF PUBLIC MEETINGS THAT WE HAVE.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS REGARDING THAT? MR. COR? I, I MEAN, I, I, I FEEL LIKE I NEED, MAYBE I'VE HAD ENOUGH TIME.

I FEEL LIKE I'VE HAD, I NEED SOME TIME TO THINK ABOUT HOW I FEEL ABOUT

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WE HAVE AUDIT COMMITTEE MEETINGS, EDUCATION COMMITTEE, BUSINESS COMMITTEE MEETINGS.

UM, WE'RE GONNA HAVE PUBLIC MEETINGS COMING UP WHERE WE INTERVIEW CANDIDATES FOR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

UM, IT'S, YOU KNOW, THE GOAL SETTING SESSION.

UM, YOU KNOW, I, YEAH, I MEAN, I'D LOVE THAT BROADCASTED, BUT THERE'S, I FEEL LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF SMALL PUBLIC MEETINGS THAT WE HAVE THAT WE POST THAT WOULD REQUIRE US TO BE IN THIS SPECIFIC SPACE, OR I DON'T KNOW.

I MEAN, IT'S NOT THAT I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S WORTH MAKING THE EFFORT FOR, BUT MAYBE THERE'S VERY SPECIFIC CLARIFYING LANGUAGE.

AS FOR THE PROCEDURE, I'M JUST THINKING, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A PROCEDURE DOCUMENT.

AND I DON'T KNOW THAT IT, MAYBE NOT.

I DON'T KNOW.

I'M JUST, YEAH, I MEAN, COUNCILMAN BRI, LIKE, I'M NOT, I'M NOT TRYING TO GET OUT THERE AND SAY TO THE PUBLIC, OH, I DON'T WANT OUR STUFF BROADCASTING.

I'M JUST REALLY TRYING TO THINK OF THE REALLY BROAD APPLICABILITY TO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO.

MS. JUSTICE.

YEAH, I WAS JUST GONNA PIGGYBACK ON THAT.

I MEAN, THE, YEAH.

THE H OA PRESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, BREAKFAST, I MEAN, THERE ARE SO MANY MEETINGS TO COUNCILMAN CORCORAN'S POINT THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, I, I AGREE THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN MEETINGS THAT HISTORICALLY HAVE NOT BEEN, UM, YOU KNOW, VIDEO RECORDED AND, AND BROADCAST.

AND I THINK THAT IT'S GREAT FOR, FOR THOSE TO BE, BUT I MEAN, THE PRACTICAL EXAMPLE THAT YOU GAVE IS THAT WE HAVE A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING.

THIS ROOM'S NOT AVAILABLE.

SO HOW ARE WE GOING TO, PRACTICALLY SPEAKING MM-HMM.

, YOU KNOW, BROADCAST THAT.

SO I, I AGREE.

WE WOULD, I WOULD, WE WOULD NEED TO PLAY WITH THIS LANGUAGE SOMEHOW TO, TO ADDRESS THAT POINT THAT, THAT THERE'S A DESIRE FOR THEM ALL TO BE, BUT NOT A REQUIREMENT BECAUSE WE MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO, TO LIVE UP TO THAT, UM, JUST FROM, YOU KNOW, CIRCUMSTANCES BEYOND OUR CONTROL.

UM, SO YEAH, THAT'S ALL I JUST, SORRY, MR. MAYOR, CAN I GO AHEAD, PLEASE.

ONE MORE COMMENT, UM, JUST BECAUSE I, I KNOW THAT THOSE YOU'RE WATCHING ARE GONNA SAY THAT WE, WE SHOULD TRY TO BROADCAST THOSE THINGS THAT ARE WITHIN OUR IMMEDIATE CONTROL.

UM, MR. MAGNER, WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION THE OTHER DAY, THE UTD DEBATE THAT WE HAD LAST YEAR OR EARLIER THIS YEAR, WHATEVER IT WAS.

RATHER, THAT WAS A PUBLIC MEETING THAT WE POSTED AT CITY HALL YEAH.

FOR PEOPLE TO ATTEND.

UM, IT'S VERY, I DON'T KNOW, IT BECOMES VERY CHALLENGING, BUT I THINK I'M FINE WITH SOME SORT OF WORD THAT THERE'S THIS DESIRE TO DO IT THAT WITHIN OUR CONTROL, MAYBE, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE WOULD WORD THAT, BUT POLICY WISE, RIGHT.

MAYBE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBER ITSELF, BUT POLICY WISE, I THINK IT GETS A LOT MORE COMPLICATED FOR PUBLIC.

PERHAPS IT'S NOT THE RIGHT FLIGHT.

MR. DORIAN? YEAH, I, I JUST KINDA WANNA PIGGYBACK ON THAT ALSO.

I MEAN, IT, IT MAY BE VERY DIFFICULT TO, UH, PUBLICLY SUBMIT THAT.

UM, AND TWO, A LOT OF THE MEETINGS WE HAVE GENERALLY ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, SO THEY WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND, GENERALLY SPEAKING.

UM, AND, YOU KNOW, FOR THE, I THINK, YOU KNOW, FOR THE MEETINGS HELD IN THIS ROOM, UM, IT'S SET UP TO ACTUALLY PROVIDE TRANSPARENCY AND A RECORDING.

UM, I THINK WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AT EACH ONE OF THOSE ITEMS AND SEE WHERE, YOU KNOW, WHAT EFFORTS WE TAKE TO DO.

SO IN ADDITION TO HAVING THOSE AS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

UM, I MEAN, IF WE NEED TO CHANGE SOME OF THE VERBIAGE, UM, TO STATE SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE TRANSPARENT, THEN I'M OPEN TO THAT.

BUT I THINK HONESTLY, UM, SO A LOT OF THE MEETINGS WE HAVE ARE SMALLER, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S ADVANTAGEOUS OR SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE, BE PURSUED.

THEIR ANSWERS OR TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY IF THEY GET ON A BOARD AND COMMISSION, AND THEN AT SOME POINT THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE UNDER THE MICROSCOPE A LITTLE BIT MORE AT THAT TIME.

I'M, I'M GONNA ADD ONE THING HERE.

I THINK INTENT NEEDS TO BE IN THERE.

UM, I, FOR 1:00 AM A HUNDRED PERCENT BEHIND TRANSPARENCY.

WE HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE.

AND I THINK WE'RE VERY, ALMOST OVERREACT TO IT SOMETIME TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE.

BUT I THINK THE INTENT, BUT THEN ALSO BEING FUNCTIONAL IS ANOTHER ASPECT OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.

THIS ROOM DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN IT'S FUNCTIONAL.

IF WE DIVIDE INTO SUBGROUPS AND WE HAVE FOUR DIFFERENT GROUPS, AND NOT ALL OF THEM CAN BE HEARD, LIKE WHEN WE SET OUR GOALS AND WE BREAK OUT INTO INDIVIDUAL GROUPS, I DON'T THINK THAT'S DOING THE, UM, CITIZENS A FAVOR WHEN THEY REALLY CAN'T TELL WHAT WE'RE EVEN SAYING, OR WE CAN'T REALLY LOCK INTO IT.

WHEN WE HOST, UM, INTERVIEWS AND WE'RE DOING THINGS WITH CITIZENS, THEY, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO EXPOSE A Q AND A TO THEM OR ASK THEM IF THEY'RE INTERVIEWING FOR A BOARD OR COMMISSION TO EVERYONE IN THE WORLD TO HEAR

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SO THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT I'M NOT COMFORTABLE ABOUT SAYING THAT WE SHOULD EXPOSE THE AVERAGE CITIZEN TO, UM, IN EVERY SITUATION.

SO, I LIKE THE LANGUAGE.

I THINK WE CAN SAY THAT WE'RE, WE'LL DO ALL WE CAN TO DO IT WHEN WE CAN, BUT I THINK PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE SOMETIMES IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN.

MR. RUSH, ANDRE, I, I, JUST A CLARIFICATION.

SO WE, WE GO, FOR EXAMPLE, AS A CITY COUNCIL TO THE H-O-H-O-A MEETINGS IN THE EVENINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

DO WE NOT POST THOSE AS WELL? WE DO.

SO, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW.

I MEAN, TO, I, I AGREE WITH WHAT THE MAYOR'S SAYING BECAUSE I THINK JUST PRACTICALLY THERE'S GONNA BE TIMES WE CAN'T, 'CAUSE UNLESS WE, UNLESS WE SAY WE'RE GONNA HAVE ALL THE HOA MEETINGS IN HERE, I DON'T THINK WE CAN PRACTICALLY DO THAT, JUST, JUST PURELY FROM A PRACTICAL STANDPOINT.

SO THAT, THAT WOULD BE MY CONCERN WITH TRYING TO MAKE THIS LANGUAGE RIGHT, BECAUSE I'M ALL ABOUT TRANSPARENCY, NOT GET ME WRONG, MAKE SURE I SAY THAT VERY, VERY STRONG.

I'M JUST LOOKING AT IT FROM PURELY THE PRACTICAL STANDPOINT OF HOW WE WOULD DO SOME OF THE MEETINGS THAT WE GO TO IE HOAS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

I'M NOT SURE HOW WE, WE WOULD PULL THAT OFF.

LET'S MOVE ON.

WHAT, MAYOR, WAIT, GO AHEAD.

YEAH, PLEASE DO SO.

UM, SO, SO JUST TO CLARIFY, UM, WHAT THE, WHAT THE LAW REQUIRES IS THAT WE, THAT THE LAW REQUIRES IS THAT WE, UH, BROADCAST OUR REGULAR MEETINGS, NOT WORK SESSIONS, NOT SPECIAL CALLED MEETINGS, NOT MEETINGS THAT WE, WE POST OR DON'T POST, EVEN IF THEY'RE INFORMAL MEETINGS WHERE A QUORUM OF THE COUNCIL IS THERE.

AND YOU MAY ANSWER QUESTIONS AT A HOA MEETING OR OTHERWISE.

UM, YOU KNOW, I I, I THINK SOMETHING COUNCILMAN CORCORAN YOU SAID WAS IMPORTANT.

I MEAN, THIS, THIS IS A POLICY AND A PROCEDURE, YOU KNOW, ASPIRATIONAL THINGS GENERALLY DON'T FIND THEMSELVES ASPIRATIONAL.

LANGUAGE GENERALLY DOESN'T FIND ITSELF IN A POLICY AND PROCEDURE.

I MEAN, THAT, THAT WAS THE GOAL OF THIS WAS TO BE VERY, UM, CLEAR AND VERY, UM, I THINK PROCEDURAL ABOUT THE WAY WE WOULD HANDLE THESE THINGS.

SO WE'RE HAPPY TO TRY TO INCORPORATE SOME ASPIRATIONAL LANGUAGE.

BUT, UM, THE REALITY IS, IS WE, WE, WE HAVE TO DO IT IN, IN, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE STATE LAW.

EVERYTHING WE DO ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT IS YOUR DIRECTION TO US TO BE MORE TRANSPARENT, TO BE AS TRANSPARENT AS POSSIBLE.

SO MAYOR, I JUST WANTED TO DO, WOULD YOU LIKE US TO TWEAK THE LANGUAGE AND TRY TO GET SOME ASPIRATIONAL LANGUAGE IN THERE, OR IS IT OKAY AS IS? PERSONALLY, I THINK IT'S OKAY.

LIKE IT IS, I THINK IT'S A MATTER OF INTENT, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

MOVING ON TO SECTION THREE, WHICH IS RULES OF CONDUCT.

THIS DESCRIBES HOW MEETINGS ARE CONDUCTED WITH RESPECT TO THE PRESIDING OFFICER, COUNCIL MEMBER COMMENTS, MOTIONS, AND VOTING.

SO OF COURSE, SECTIONS, UH, 3.1 AND 3.2 COME DIRECTLY FROM THE CITY CHARTER.

ALSO, SECTION 3.6, UH, ON VOTING REFERS TO THE CITY CHARTER AND STATE LAW.

SECTIONS 3.4 AND 3.5 CODIFY THE COUNCIL'S CURRENT PRACTICE AND CLARIFIES THAT EACH COUNCIL MEMBER HAS THE RIGHT TO BE HEARD AND THAT EACH MEMBER SHALL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK BEFORE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS ARE HEARD BY A MEMBER WHO HAS ALREADY SPOKEN.

SECTION 3.5 IDENTIFIES THE PROCEDURE OF MOTIONS AND PROVIDES EXAMPLES OF MOTIONS, WHICH FOLLOW A MODIFIED VERSION OF ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER.

SECTION 3.7 IS THE NON OBSERVANCE OF RULES CLAUSE, WHICH STATES THAT IF THE RULES OF PROCEDURE ARE NOT FOLLOWED, IT DOES NOT INVALIDATE ANY CITY COUNCIL ACTION.

AND MAYOR, I, I'LL PAUSE HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS ON SECTION THREE.

ANY COMMENTS, MS. JUSTICE? NO, I JUST, I LIKE THE REVISION, UH, TO 3.5 A FOR WHEN I READ THIS.

THE WAY THAT IT READ WAS THAT WE WOULD OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION, WE WOULD HAVE DISCUSSION, AND THEN WE WOULD VOTE, AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE ANOTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT WE JUST DID.

AND SO, I THINK STRIKING THAT LANGUAGE MAKES CLEAR THAT IF YOU WANNA EXPLAIN YOUR VOTE, THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT IS DURING THE DISCUSSION, WHICH IS HOW IN PRACTICE IT ACTUALLY WORKS, RIGHT? YOU TALK ABOUT IT AND SORT OF SAY, AND THAT'S WHY I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS.

YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHATEVER'S BEFORE US VERSUS THE WAY THAT IT READ BEFORE WAS YOU WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER YOU HAD TO SAY, WE WOULD VOTE AND THEN YOU WOULD SAY AGAIN.

AND NOW, THE REASON I VOTED THAT WAY WAS, AND THAT THAT'S NOT HOW WE DO IT.

AND, AND SO THIS IS BETTER THE WAY THAT, THAT WITH THIS STRICKEN, I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY HOW WE DO OUR BUSINESS.

SO I JUST WANTED TO COMMENT ON THAT, MR. CORCORAN? NOPE, YOU'RE GOOD.

THANK YOU, MS. JUSTICE.

OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, UM, AND I WILL POINT OUT TWO MINOR CHANGES THAT ARE REFLECTED IN YOUR COPY.

MOVING ON TO SECTION FOUR.

THIS ONE IS ON PUBLIC HEARINGS, AND THIS CODIFIES HOW YOU CONDUCT YOUR PUBLIC HEARINGS.

THERE'S NOT REALLY A LOT TO ADD, UM, ABOUT THIS SECTION.

WE'VE JUST ACKNOWLEDGED THE WAY ALL THE COMPONENTS

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WE CLARIFIED THAT A MOTION IS REQUIRED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND UNDER 4.2 A, THERE WAS A, THE SENTENCE AT THE END, REFERENCE TIME LIMITS, AND I JUST MOVED THAT UNDER THE SUBSECTION B, WHICH TALKS ABOUT TIME LIMITS.

SO MAYOR, I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS ON SECTION FOUR.

SEE NONE, PLEASE PROCEED.

SECTION FIVE, THIS IS THE ONE THAT WE ANALYZE THE MOST AND PUT THE MOST, UH, SIGNIFICANT RESEARCH INTO.

THIS SECTION COVERS PUBLIC COMMENTS.

CAN I, CAN I GO BACK? I'M SORRY.

JUST ONE QUESTION.

OH, YES, GO AHEAD.

SO JUST, AND IT'S JUST BECAUSE I DON'T SEE IT IN HERE, AND MAYBE I'M MISSING IT, WHICH SECTION ON YOU? I, I'M STILL ON SECTION 4.2.

SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE, WHEN, SO EXAMPLE, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN WE, WE JUST DID THE, THE, THE, UM, THE ZONING, UM, I'M NOT SEEING IN HERE WHERE WE SAY THAT WE, AND MAYBE I'M MISSING IT, IT TALKS ABOUT THAT THERE'S FIVE MINUTES THAT IT SAYS ALL PERSONS WISHING TO SPEAK ON THE MATTER SHALL BE LIMITED TO FIVE MINUTES EACH.

I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WHOEVER THE APPLICANT IS, THAT WE DON'T GET INTO A SITUATION WHERE WE'RE GOVERNED BY THAT FIVE MINUTES.

AND I'M NOT SAYING MAYBE I MISSED IT, BUT I'M NOT SEEING WHERE IT, WHERE IT SAYS THAT, THAT THEY CAN GO LONGER.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE WHAT I'M SAYING? AND I, AND DID I JUST MISS IT IN HERE? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE APPLICANT SPEAKING? YES, THE APPLICANT AND OR, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, OKAY, IT DIDN'T HAPPEN TONIGHT, BUT SOMETIMES WE GET THE APPLICANT AND THEN THEY'LL BRING AN ARCHITECT.

THEY MAY BRING AN ENGINEER.

THEY MAY BRING, THEY MAY BRING TWO OR THREE OR FOUR PEOPLE.

I'M JUST NOT SEEING IN HERE WHERE IT SAYS THAT.

'CAUSE THEY MAY, WE, WE'VE OFTENTIMES WITH THOSE WITH THE ACTUAL APPLICANT AND OR HIS, MY, HIS OR HER DESIGNEES, WE'VE ALLOWED THEM OBVIOUSLY TO GO FOR HOWEVER LONG WE ALL WANT TO ASK QUESTIONS.

AND I'M JUST NOT SEEING THAT IN HERE.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO CODIFY THAT OR NOT.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE WHAT I'M ASKING? IT DOES.

I THINK, UM, THIS SECTION 4.2, UH, AS IT RELATES TO PUBLIC INPUT AT HEARINGS IS TALKING ABOUT THE, UM, THE, THE SPEAKER PORTION.

SO AMY, I THINK, I THINK IT'S A, IT'S A PRETTY EASY TWEAK THAT WE CAN MAKE, UH, UH, COUNCILMAN HUTCH RIDER TO CLARIFY UNDER THE APPLICANT PART BACK ON 4.1 C.

WE CAN SIMPLY STATE, UM, THAT, THAT THE APPLICANT AS THEY, UH, AS THE, UH, APPLICANT, UM, HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A PRESENTATION, PROVIDE COMMENTS, TESTIMONY, WE CAN JUST MAKE A NOTE THERE THAT THAT'S NOT SUBJECT TO THE FIVE MINUTE RULE.

AND THEN THE, THE LAST STATEMENT ON, ON C, UM, SAYS THE MAYOR, PRESIDING OFFICER HAS THE AUTHORITY TO LIMIT THE TIME ALLOWED OF THE APPLICANT, UH, WHEN DEEMED NECESSARY FOR THE EFFICIENCY OF THE MEETING.

SO IF, IF THERE'S A LOT OF COMMENTS FROM THE APPLICANT THAT WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, MOVE ON, THEN THE MAYOR HAS THAT AUTHORITY AS WELL.

YEAH, AND I, I, I CERTAINLY THINK THAT SHOULD BE IN THERE, BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT SOMEONE DOESN'T THINK THEY CAN, THEY ONLY HAVE FIVE MINUTES TO PRESENT.

NOW, ALTHOUGH THE POLICY LANGUAGE DOES SPECIFY TOPICS WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE CITY, IT IS COUNCIL'S DISCRETION TO ALLOW COMMENTS ON TOPICS THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA FOR WHICH THE COUNCIL IS NOT RESPONSIBLE.

THAT'S, THAT'S MY ONLY POINT.

BACK TO SECTION FIVE.

UM, OKAY.

SO LIKE I SAID, THIS IS THE ONE WE PUT A LOT OF RESEARCH INTO.

THIS SECTION COVERS PUBLIC COMMENTS, THE RIGHT TO SPEAK, AND A NEW COMPONENT RECOMMENDED FOR YOUR MEETINGS THAT WE'VE TITLED VISITORS FORUM.

WE FEEL LIKE WE'VE STRUCK A GOOD BALANCE WITH THIS SECTION AS FAR AS CONDUCTING AN EFFICIENT MEETING AND ALSO ALLOWING YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR FROM YOUR CONSTITUENTS AND FOR THEM TO SPEAK TO YOU.

SO SECTION 5.1 COVERS THE RIGHT TO SPEAK STATUTE.

THIS IS WHAT IT'S COMMONLY REFERRED TO.

THIS COMES FROM GOVERNMENT CODE 5 5 1 0 0 7, AND IT STIPULATES THAT A GOVERNMENTAL BODY SHALL ALLOW A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC TO ADDRESS THE BODY REGARDING AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA BEFORE OR DURING THE BODY'S CONSIDERATION OF THE ITEM.

IT FURTHER STATES THAT COUNSEL MAY ADOPT REASONABLE RULES, INCLUDING RULES THAT LIMIT THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF TIME THAT A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC MAY ADDRESS THE BODY ON ANY GIVEN ITEM.

AND ALSO THE LAW HAS BEEN INTERPRETED TO APPLY TO ACTION ITEMS, NOT DISCUSSION ITEMS. SO WHAT WE HAVE PROPOSED IS TO HAVE TWO SEPARATE SECTIONS ON THE AGENDA.

ONE WOULD BE YOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS, AND THIS WOULD BE FOR SPEAKERS TO SPEAK ON ANY POSTED AGENDA ITEM THAT IS NOT ALREADY SCHEDULED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.

THIS SECTION ENSURES THAT ALL COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS ARE HEARD FIRST PRIOR TO ANY COUNCIL DELIBERATION.

THE SECTION OF THE MEETING IS FOLLOWED BY THE VISITORS FORUM, AND THIS WOULD BE SPEAKERS UNDER THE VISITORS FORUM CAN SPEAK ON ANY TOPIC THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA AND WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE CITY.

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SO IN OTHER WORDS, THERE IS NO STATE OR CHARTER PROVISION THAT REQUIRES THE COUNCIL TO ALLOW SPEAKERS TO SPEAK ON ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA, BUT YOU MAY CHOOSE TO DO SO.

THE TOTAL TIME ALLOWED FOR BOTH SECTIONS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING WOULD BE 30 MINUTES, UNLESS COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS EXCEED THAT TIME LIMIT.

SO, AS YOU KNOW, WE CURRENTLY ALLOW SPEAKERS UP TO FIVE MINUTES EACH.

HOWEVER, THE MAYOR DOES HAVE THE DISCRETION TO REDUCE THE TIME LIMIT FOR EACH SPEAKER.

HE ALSO HAS THE DISCRETION TO INCREASE THE MAXIMUM ALLOWANCE OF 30 MINUTES FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS. SO IN OTHER WORDS, IF WE HAVE SPEAKERS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA, AND THAT EX UM, GETS PAST THE 30 MINUTES, THE MAYOR CAN ALLOW THAT TO GO ON FURTHER BECAUSE WE DO HAVE TO ALLOW COMMENTS ON PUBLIC, UH, ON AGENDA ITEMS. HE CAN ALSO REDUCE THE TIME LIMIT TO TWO TO THREE MINUTES TO ALLOW MORE SPEAKERS TO SPEAK IN THAT 30 MINUTES.

SO THEN WE GO TO THE VISITORS FORUM, AND THESE, THIS IS STILL WITHIN THAT FIRST 30 MINUTES.

UM, IF SPEAKERS UNDER THE VISITORS FORUM REACH THE 30 MINUTE TIME LIMIT AND THERE ARE STILL SPEAKERS REGISTERED TO SPEAK FOR VISITORS FORUM, THEN THE VISITORS FORUM WILL BE CONTINUED TO THE END OF THE AGENDA.

DOES EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND THAT? OKAY.

UM, AND AGAIN, THE MAYOR DOES HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO EXTEND OR LIMIT ANY TIME ALLOCATION AND THE COUNCIL CAN WAIVE OR SUSPEND THESE RULES BY A MAJORITY VOTE.

IF IT IS DEEMED THERE IS GOOD CAUSE.

SO THESE ARE THE MAIN COMPONENTS IN SECTION FIVE THAT WE WANTED TO REVIEW WITH YOU TONIGHT.

UM, YOU'LL BE FAMILIAR WITH THE OTHER REMAINING SECTIONS WHICH COVER REPETITIVE COMMENTS DESIGNATING A SPOKESPERSON DISTRIBUTION OF MATERIALS AT COUNCIL MEETINGS AND NO CITY COUNCIL COUNCIL DELIBERATION ALLOWED.

SAM, MAYOR, I'LL STAND BY FOR QUESTIONS ON SECTION FIVE.

MR. .

UH, THANK YOU MR. MAYOR AND THANK YOU EMMY.

UH, NOW JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IF SOME EMERGENCY THINGS HAPPEN.

I KNOW WE HAVE PUBLISHED AGENDA AND ALL THIS, WE FOLLOW ALL THIS, BUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MEETING WE JUST HAVE TO POSTPONE EVERYTHING.

MM-HMM, , UH, THANK GOD THAT DID NOT HAPPEN.

WELL, IT HAPPENED ONE TIME BECAUSE OF THE TORNADO, JUST FOR FEW MINUTES.

SO IF THAT HAPPENS.

SO WHAT, WHAT'S THE PROCEDURE JUST TO UNDERSTAND THE PROCEDURE? ANY EXPLANATION THERE WAS IF SO, SO THERE, THERE'S AN EMERGENCY, THERE'S A, THERE'S AN UN UNEXPECTED NEED TO STOP THE MEETING.

UM, THE MAYOR WOULD, UH, CALL FOR A RECESS.

AND, UM, AND THEN IF IT WAS SAFE TO RETURN, THEY, WE WOULD RECONVENE AND THEY CONTINUE THE MEETING.

IS THAT, AND YEAH.

SO IF, IF THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN, SO IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE COME BACK THE NEXT MEETING, POSTPONE EVERYTHING OR HOW THAT, SO A RECESS CAN BE UP TO FOR 24 HOURS.

OH.

SO IF, IF YOU NEEDED TO RECESS OVERNIGHT, THEN YOU COULD RECONVENE THE NEXT NIGHT WITHOUT POSTING AND JUST CONTINUE THE MEETING.

COMMENTS ON THE AGENDA, SAY WE HAVE TWO SPEAKERS AT FIVE MINUTES EACH, THAT MEANS 10 MINUTES HAS BEEN UTILIZED.

THAT'S GOOD.

I JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND THAT PROCEDURE, WHICH I HAVE NOT EXPERIENCED.

SO THANKS, SCOTT.

THANK YOU MS. JUSTICE.

THANK YOU, MAYOR, ON 5.5.

JUST I THINK WE NEED TO CLARIFY.

YOU SAID, YOU, YOU SAID IT IN YOUR COMMENTS AND IT WAS CLEAR, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S CLEAR AS WRITTEN WITH A MAXIMUM OF 30 MINUTES ALLOCATED FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THE AGENDA AND THE VISITOR FORUM, ONE COULD READ THAT TO ME TO, TO BE 30 MINUTES FOR EACH OF THOSE THINGS.

UM, SO I THINK WE JUST NEED TO CLARIFY THAT LANGUAGE TO MAKE, LIKE TOTAL FOR BOTH OF THOSE.

UM, AND NO, I THINK I JUST, THIS IS A CHANGE FROM THE WAY THAT WE'VE NORMALLY DONE PUBLIC COMMENTS.

WE SHOULD JUST SAY WHAT IT IS.

UM, AND I, I THINK THAT THIS IS A GOOD BALANCE, UM, BETWEEN, FOR EXAMPLE, TONIGHT APPLICANTS THAT WE HAD AND, YOU KNOW, THE PUBLIC COMMENT NEEDED ON OUR AGENDA AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.

I THINK THIS STRIKES THE RIGHT BALANCE.

IT PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ANYONE WHO WANTS TO BE HEARD, TO BE HEARD AT ACCOUNTS MEETING.

UM, BUT IT ALSO ALLOWS, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S RES RESPECT FOR OUR STAFF AND FOR OTHER VISITORS WHO MAY BE HERE ON AGENDA ITEMS, UH, TO BE HEARD, UH, IN A TIMELY FASHION.

SO, UM, I'M, I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS CHANGE.

I THINK IT'S A, IT'S A GOOD CHANGE TO RUN AN EFFICIENT MEETING.

AND UM, SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON IT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS, MR. HUD RIDER.

SO I, I, I THINK I JUST HEARD MY ANSWER, BUT I JUST WANNA CLARIFY JUST SO IT'S, IT, SO WHAT THIS IS SAYING IS THAT IN THE FIRST SECTION WHERE IT'S PUBLIC

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, THEN THAT WOULD LEAVE 20 MINUTES FOR ANYTHING ELSE.

AND WE STOP AT A TOTAL OF 30 MINUTES, CORRECT.

FOR BOTH COMMENTS FOR ON THE AGENDA AND THEN JUST GENERAL OPEN COMMENTS.

CORRECT.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD WHAT I WAS READING.

YEAH, THANK YOU.

UH, I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION, AMY.

IF YOU GO TO 5.9 WAIVER OF RULES, TELL ME WHAT THAT'S SAYING RIGHT THERE.

ANY OF THE FOREGOING RULES MAY BE WAIVED OR SUSPENDED BY A MAJORITY VOTE OF THE COUNCIL PRESENT WHEN IT IS DEEMED THAT THERE IS GOOD CAUSE TO, CAN YOU GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE? UM, THE TIME LIMITS IS AN EXAMPLE.

UH, YOU, YOU COULD WAIVE TIME LIMITS, YOU COULD INCREASE THE TIME LIMITS.

THAT WOULD BE AN EXAMPLE OKAY.

OF WAIVING THE RULES.

I GOT YOU.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, LET'S MOVE ON.

GO AHEAD JOE.

I, UM, I THINK ALL THIS DELIBERATIONS JUST CONFUSED ME A LITTLE BIT ON THESE TIME LIMITS.

SO QUESTION EARLIER.

SO JUST SO I UNDERSTAND, IF THERE ARE, IF EVERYONE, IF SAY FIVE TIMES IT WAS FIVE, SO LET'S SAY THERE'S SEVEN PEOPLE MM-HMM.

, EACH OF THEM WANNA SPEAK A FULL FIVE MINUTES ON A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM, THEY WOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO DO THAT? NO, SIR.

SO PUBLIC PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE NOT INVOLVED IN THIS AT ALL.

SO THIS, THE, THE ITEM, THE, THE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA, UM, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE POSTED ON YOUR, UH, IT'D HAVE TO BE AN ITEM POSTED ON YOUR AGENDA.

UM, AND ANYONE THAT, THOSE FOLKS WILL BE GIVEN PRIORITY TO SPEAK.

AND SO IF THERE'S SIX AT FIVE MINUTES AND THAT'S, THAT, THAT WOULD TAKE THE FULL 30 MINUTES AND ANYONE WHO IS HERE TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA WOULD GO TO THE END OF THE MEETING.

IF THERE WERE TO COUNCILMAN HUTCH RIDER AS EXAMPLE, IF THERE WERE ONLY TWO HERE TO SPEAK ON THE, AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA, THE FIRST 10 MINUTES OF THE, UH, 30 MINUTES, THE TOTAL 30 MINUTES, THE FIRST 10 MINUTES WOULD BE FOR THOSE TWO FOLKS.

AND THEN THE 20 MINUTES REMAINING WOULD BE FOR SOMEONE TO SPEAK ON ANYTHING, UH, ANY, ANY ITEM THAT THEY'RE HERE TO SPEAK ON.

SO, BUT THE PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE COMPLETELY SEPARATE.

SO THIS IS MORE FOR WORK SESSION TYPE ITEMS? WELL, IT'S, IT'S, OR FOR IT'S BUSINESS MEETING AS WELL.

I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S EVERY MEETING, BUT PUBLIC HEARINGS, THE, THE VISITORS SECTION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING IS, UM, REGULATED BY THE EARLIER SECTION, UH, IN, IN FOUR.

SO I UNDERSTAND.

AND I UNDERSTAND, I UNDERSTAND COMPLETELY.

AND I THINK, I THINK THE KEY IS THAT ANY, I MEAN, ANYONE WHO COMES TO SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL ABOUT AN ITEM THAT'S ON THE AGENDA IS GUARANTEED TO DO THAT AT THE START OF THE MEETING.

THAT'S THE EASY WAY.

ANYBODY WHO'S HERE, I MEAN, WE HAVE TO LET 'EM, EVEN NOW WE DON'T, I'M NOT SAYING THEY ALL GET FIVE MINUTES NECESSARILY.

THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S UP TO THE MAYOR AND, AND THE COUNCIL.

BUT THEY, THEY, ANYONE WHO'S HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT AN ITEM THAT'S ON THE AGENDA WILL ABSOLUTELY HAVE THE CHANCE TO DO THAT AT THE START OF THE MEETING.

UM, IF THERE'S, IF, IF THE, IF THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE THE FULL 30 MINUTES, THEN WE'LL GO IN ORDER OF OF, OF, UH, COMMENT CARD RECEIVED AND START, START THE, THE OTHER TOPICS.

I APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION AND, AND I UNDERSTAND THANKS, UH, THE PROCEDURE.

THANK YOU JOE.

MR. CHU, WELL THANKS FOR UNDERSTANDING MR. JOE , BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND CLEARLY.

UH, UH, I'M GONNA GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.

THAT WAY I THINK PEOPLE, IF SOMEONE HAS ANY CONFUSION, THEY'LL UNDERSTAND ALSO WITH ME.

UH, SO IF WE HAVE A CASE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE DISCUSSING, FOR EXAMPLE, I'M NOT SAYING THE NAME, SAY PUBLIC HEARING.

ZONING CASE A, B, C, D.

RIGHT? SO, AND THERE ARE LIKE 20 PEOPLE HERE TO SUPPORT THAT CASE AND MAYBE 30 PEOPLE NOT SUPPORTING THE CASE SO THAT THERE IS NO TIME LIMIT THERE.

SO ONLY THE TIME LIMIT WOULD BE THAT TIME, FIVE MINUTE AGE OR WHATEVER THE DECIDE THE COUNCIL DURING THAT TIME.

MAJORITY.

THAT'S ANOTHER OPTION.

SO IT COULD BE TWO, THREE HOURS, YOU KNOW, LISTENING FROM THE PUBLIC THAT TIME.

SO THERE IS NO TIME LIMIT FOR THAT SECTION, SO, RIGHT.

IF IT'S, IF IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING, ANYONE HERE TO TESTIFY, UM, IN ABOUT THAT PUBLIC HEARING, THERE'S A FIVE MINUTE TIME LIMIT PER PERSON, BUT WE'RE NOT PROPOSING TO CAP THE TIME ASSOCIATED WITH EITHER FOR OR AGAINST, UM, UM, IN SUPPORT OF A, OF A PUBLIC HEARING OR BY THE ZONING CASE.

THAT'S GOOD.

SO JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT THAT STILL REMAINS THE SAME.

IF I COULD ADD ONE THING, MAYOR, I JUST, I DON'T THINK I POINTED THIS OUT, BUT, UH, COMMENTS IN ANY OF THE SECTION WILL BE HEARD IN THE ORDER THEY'RE RECEIVED

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BY THE CITY SECRETARY.

ALRIGHT, NO MORE COUNSEL QUESTIONS.

PROCEED PLEASE.

SECTION SIX.

THIS PROVIDES FOR A BIANNUAL REVIEW OF THE COUNCIL'S RULES, RULES OF ORDER AND PROCEDURE.

AND THIS WILL COINCIDE WITH YOUR REVIEW OF THE CODE OF ETHICS.

IT ALSO IDENTIFIES THE MAYOR'S RESPONSIBILITY TO ENSURE ADHERENCE TO THE ADOPTIVE PROCEDURES AND IT NAMES THE CITY ATTORNEY AS THE PROCEDURE ADVISOR.

ANY QUESTIONS ON SECTION SIX? ALRIGHT, NO QUESTIONS.

THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

AND IF THERE ARE, UM, ARE ANY OTHER COMMENTS, WE'LL RECEIVE THOSE NOW.

WE'LL ALSO BRING THIS BACK TO YOU ON FEBRUARY 26TH WITH A RESOLUTION AND THE POLICY AND ANY EDITS THAT NEED TO BE MADE.

AND WE WILL, WE WILL PROVIDE A RED LINE, UM, INCORPORATING THE, THE, UM, FEEDBACK THAT YOU'VE PROVIDED TONIGHT.

AND, UM, PROB PROBABLY PROVIDE THAT, UM, AT LEAST, AT LEAST A WEEK IN ADVANCE.

SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANY FEEDBACK ABOUT THE RED LINE ABOUT SOME OF THE TWEAKS WE'VE MENTIONED, YOU CAN LET US, IF YOU COULD LET US KNOW PRIOR, WE CAN CONTINUE TO REFINE IT AND MAKE SURE THAT THE, THE VERSION WE PUT ON THE 26TH INCORPORATES THE FEEDBACK WE'VE RECEIVED TO DATE AND THE ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK YOU, YOU'LL HAVE WHEN YOU SEE THE RED LINE.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

GO TO ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, WHICH IS A CONSENT AGENDA.

ALRIGHT, WE'LL

[8. CONSENT AGENDA]

I'D LIKE TO HAVE A MOTION.

MR. HUTCHIN RIDER.

MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO M MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PUBLISHED.

GOT A MOTION.

MR. SHAM SHUL.

THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.

I WOULD LIKE TO SECOND THE MOTION.

GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR TO APPROVE.

RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

CONSENT AGENDA PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

GO TO ITEM NUMBER NINE, WE'LL REPORT ON ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST.

[9. REPORT ON ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST]

MR. CORCORAN.

OH, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

ON SATURDAY, UH, EARLY AFTERNOON, MANY OF US HAD A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY.

WE WERE INVITED BY THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AT DALLAS TO PARTICIPATE IN THEIR COMMUNITY APPRECIATION DAY.

AND I JUST HAVE TO SAY, I MEAN, I KNOW THAT WE GIVE A LOT OF SHOUT OUTS TO HOW MUCH WE APPRECIATE UTD AND IT WAS REALLY NICE TO HAVE THEM COME AND SAY, HEY, WE APPRECIATE YOU AS A COMMUNITY AS WELL.

AND IN SORT OF A STRANGE, UH, MAYBE IRONIC WAY, IT MADE ME APPRECIATE THE UNIVERSITY EVEN MORE.

THAT THAT THEY SHOWED SO MUCH LOVE AND SUPPORT FOR US AS A CITY.

UM, JUST WHAT A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WE HAVE WITH THOSE, UM, WITH, WITH ALL THE PEOPLE ON THAT CAMPUS.

THANK YOU, SIR.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? MR. HUTCHIN? RIDER? UH, THANK YOU MAYOR.

ON SUNDAY WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THE CORE EVENT, UM, FOR CHINATOWN.

AND, UM, I, I ABSOLUTELY THOUGHT THE EVENT WAS AMAZING, UM, GREAT TURNOUT BY OUR COMMUNITY.

UM, BUT IT, IT, UM, YOU KNOW, ONE MORE TIME, IT, IT SORT OF REMINDED ME OF, OF WHAT THE COPILOT SAID IN THE MOVIE ABOUT WHEN THE PLANE LANDED IN THE HUDSON.

I JUST WISH WE COULD HAVE IT IN JUNE 'CAUSE IT'S ALWAYS SO COLD.

UM, BUT IT WAS AN ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL EVENT, ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL.

AND THEN I WANTED TO JUST MAKE ONE, UH, UH, COMMENT REAL QUICKLY, UM, TO LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT, THAT MS. BELL'S HOUSE IS STILL OUT THERE.

UM, WE'VE ALL HAD THE OPPORTUNITY OVER THE LAST WEEK OR SO TO, UM, HAVE SOME, TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE INFORMATION ON THAT.

I GOTTA ASK TODAY ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED TO MS. BELL'S HOUSE.

SO IT'S STILL, WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH IT.

IT'S STILL HAPPENING.

IT'S JUST, IF ANYONE'S CURIOUS, WE ARE STILL MOVING FORWARD ON THE, THE MS. BELL'S HOUSE, UM, TRYING TO RESOLVE ALL OF THAT ABOUT THAT.

SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY IT'S STILL, IT'S STILL ON THE AGENDA, SO TO SPEAK, AND I MEAN THAT IN AIR QUOTES.

THANK YOU KIM.

MAYOR PRO TIM.

MAKING THINGS BETTER FOR THE FUTURE, UH, PEOPLE ARE STRUGGLING OUT THERE.

WELL, WE HAVE BEEN CELEBRATING THIS LUNAR NEW YEAR FOR, FOR A FEW WEEKS AND LOOKS LIKE THERE WOULD BE ONE MORE NEXT, UH, SATURDAY, I BELIEVE, RIGHT? UH, NOW, UH, YOU KNOW, NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT THE WEATHER, BUT AGAIN, IT LOOKS LIKE EVERY YEAR THE WEATHER FOR SOME REASON IT'S NICE DAY BEFORE, BUT THE TEMPERATURE HAVE TO DROP, UH, DURING THAT DAY.

BUT WE, THIS YEAR THOUGH, IT COULD HAVE BEEN WORSE, BUT I THINK WE HAD PRETTY GOOD TIME SLOT FOR THAT CELEBRATION TIME.

AND I THINK THIS WE ARE PLANNING WAS ALSO MUCH BETTER.

UH, SITTING ARRANGE WAS GREAT.

I THINK NEXT YEAR, IF YOU SEE THIS EVENTS COMING UP OR THIS FALL, THIS EVENTS COME, COMES AGAIN.

PLEASE CONSIDER JOINING THIS EVENT BECAUSE THE CROWD IS A HUGE CROWD, LOTS OF ENERGY.

AND, BUT AT THE SAME TIME THIS YEAR IS, UH, YOU KNOW, WHILE WE ARE CELEBRATING SO MANY EVENTS HERE, MOVING FORWARD WITH OUR LIFE,

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I WOULD, YOU KNOW, I HEAR LOTS OF OTHER THINGS AROUND THE CITY, SO I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THE COUNCIL.

TOTALLY UNDERSTAND.

WE PRAY FOR THE PEACE AND CELEBRATION.

MAYBE, UH, THIS FALL WOULD BE MUCH BETTER CELEBRATION.

THANK YOU MS. JUSTICE.

JUST A REMINDER THAT IT'S TIME TEXAS IS STILL GOING.

THERE IS A GROUP OPPORTUNITY ON SATURDAY AT HEIGHTS AT 1:00 PM TO DO ZUMBA.

UM, SO, YOU KNOW, UH, I USUALLY TALK A LITTLE TRASH ABOUT THIS, BUT LAST TIME I LOOKED COUNCILMAN, UH, DORIAN WAS ACTUALLY AHEAD OF ME IN THE STANDING, AND SO I'LL JUST GIVE HIM A LITTLE SHOUT OUT FOR HIS EFFORTS.

CONGRATULATIONS SO FAR.

WE STILL HAVE LIKE THREE MORE WEEKS, SO YES.

UH, I'LL BE LOGGING ALL OF MY WATER.

AND THEN I ALSO WANNA SAY THAT I WAS MOVED ON SOCIAL MEDIA, LOOKING AT SOCIAL MEDIA, UM, ALL THE REMEMBRANCES OF OFFICER DAVID ARD THIS WEEK.

UM, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT TEAMING UP WITH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT TO DO, YOU KNOW, PHYSICAL CHALLENGES AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.

UM, SIX YEARS THIS YEAR.

AND SO I FOUND ALL OF THAT REALLY MOVING AND JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT, THAT DATE.

THANK YOU FOR THE REMEMBRANCE, MR. BARRIOS AND THANK YOU MAYOR.

AND JUST TO, UH, PIGGYBACK ON WHAT, UH, MAYOR PRO TEM MENTIONED ABOUT YESTERDAY AT THE CORE, UM, DON I KNOW YESTERDAY AFTERNOON INTO THE EVENING HERE, I WENT TO A SUPER BOWL PARTY AND, UM, I HEARD A LOT OF POSITIVE FEEDBACK ABOUT THE EVENT FOR THOSE WHO, WHO HAD A CHANCE TO GO.

I'VE HEARD IT THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA.

I GOT A TEXT TODAY ABOUT, UH, HOW IT SEEMED LIKE THIS YEAR WAS REALLY, WE UPPED OUR GAME.

UM, AND, UH, I THINK IT'S JUST THE RICHESON WAY, RIGHT? IS JUST CONTINUING TO GET BETTER AND BETTER FOR THOSE THAT WERE NOT ABLE TO ATTEND.

WHILE IT WAS COLD AND A LITTLE RAINY ON THE FIRST PART OF IT, UM, THAT I THINK KIDS REALLY ENJOYED HAVING THE INFLATABLES OUT THERE.

THAT WAS, THAT WAS BIG.

UM, AND I PERSONALLY TRULY ENJOYED HANDING OUT THE RED, UH, ENVELOPES WITH THE DOLLAR BILLS ON IT TO THE KIDS TO PLACE IN THE LION'S MOUTH.

THAT WAS REALLY FUN.

I TRULY ENJOYED THAT.

SO THANK YOU TO ALL THOSE, THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE THAT GO INTO IT.

UM, MIKAYLA, I KNOW Y'ALL WERE OUT THERE AND YOU HAD AN ENTIRE CREW OUT THERE ALL DAY, SO THANK YOU FOR ALL THE HARD WORK AND IF WE CONTINUING NOT JUST THE HARD WORK WE'RE CONTINUING TO LEARN FROM AND CONTINUING TO GET BETTER EVERY YEAR.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MR. DORIAN.

I, UH, I'M JUST GOING TO CONTINUE ON WITH THE LUNAR NEW YEAR.

I THOUGHT SAT OR SUNDAY WAS REALLY A GREAT EVENT, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS A LITTLE COLD AND IT WAS RAINING, BUT THEY PUT ON AN INCREDIBLE FASHION SHOW.

UH, THERE WAS, UH, DIFFERENT EVENTS THAT THEY PERFORMED ON STAGE, AND ONE OF THE THINGS I REALLY ENJOYED THIS YEAR IS THAT THEY MOVED EVERYTHING AROUND.

THEY MOVED THE STAGE TOWARD GREENVILLE AND CREATED MORE OF A PLAZA EFFECT.

I THINK IT KEPT EVERYONE MORE ENGAGED.

THE ENERGY WAS HIGH AND PEOPLE WERE JUST HAVING A REALLY GOOD TIME.

UH, IT JUST FELT BETTER.

SO EVERYONE HAD A GREAT TIME, THE KIDS HAD A GOOD TIME.

IT WAS A GOOD TURNOUT FOR THE CHILDREN AND IT WAS A GOOD WAY TO BRING ALL THE CULTURES TOGETHER.

I KNOW THEY ELABORATED, UH, DURING THE FASHION SHOW ABOUT ALL THE DIFFERENT CULTURES, SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS A LOT OF FUN.

AND THEN LAST, UH, WE HAD OUR CULTURAL ARTS, UH, COMMISSION, UH, LIAISON MEETING THIS WEEK ON THURSDAY.

IT'S, I ALWAYS LOVE GOING TO THAT MEETING BECAUSE WE, EVERYONE'S SO ENGAGED AND, YOU KNOW, ENERGETIC TO, TO MAKE THINGS BETTER.

SO IT WAS NICE HEARING EVERYONE'S COMMENTS THERE.