* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:01] GOOD [CALL TO ORDER] EVENING. I CALL THIS MEETING OF THE RICHARDSON CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER AT 6:00 PM NUMBER ONE ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE INVOCATION BEING LED BY COUNCIL MEMBER DAN BARRIOS. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THE FOLLOWING SHORT PRAYER IS A PRAYER FROM PRESIDENT JIMMY CARTER'S LONG GIRL ADDRESS FROM JANUARY 20TH, 1977. PLEASE JOIN ME. DEAR GOD, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MY FREQUENT PRAYER ANSWERED THAT GOD LET MY LIFE BE MEANINGFUL IN THE ENHANCEMENT OF HIS KINGDOM AND THAT MY LIFE BE MEANINGFUL IN THE ENHANCEMENT OF THE LIVES OF MY FELLOW HUMAN BEINGS. AMEN. AMEN. AMEN. PLEASE JOIN ME. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVIDUALS WITH THEIR ROUTINE JUSTICE FOR ALL, ALL OF TEXAS HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN BARRIOS. WILL [3. MINUTES OF THE APRIL 8, 2024 MEETING, APRIL 11, 2024 SPECIAL CALLED MEETING, APRIL 15, 2024 MEETING, AND APRIL 15, 2024 SPECIAL CALLED MEETING] NOW GO TO ITEM THREE MINUTES OF THE APRIL 8TH, 2024 MEETING. AND APRIL 11TH, 2024. SPECIAL CALLED MEETING APRIL 15TH, 2024 MEETING. AND APRIL 15TH, 2024. SPECIAL CALL MEETING. I'D LIKE TO GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES. MR. SCHUEL, I PUT A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MEETING MINUTES AS STATED AS STATED. MR. HUTCH RIDER. GOT A SECOND? SECOND. I'D LIKE TO SECOND THAT. ALRIGHT, WE'VE GOT A MOTION. A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? SHOW OF HANDS, PLEASE. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. [4. PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS AND VISITORS FORUM] ALL RIGHTY. NOW WE'RE GOING TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS AND VISITORS FORUM. MR. MAGNER, UH, THANK YOU MAYOR. MAYOR AND COUNSEL. WE DID RECEIVE ONE CARD IN ADVANCE OF THE 5:00 PM DEADLINE FOR MR. JUSTIN NEFF AT 1125 EASTERN ROAD, UH, REGARDING ITEMS EIGHT POINT B FIVE, ORDINANCE 44 9 5, WHICH IS THE WATER CONSERVATION AND EMERGENCY RESOURCE MANAGEMENT PLAN. UH, JUST CONFIRM FOR MR. N THAT THE COUNCIL HAS BEEN PROVIDED HIS COMMENTS, UH, IN ADVANCE OF, UH, THAT ACTION ITEM TONIGHT. UM, WE HAVE, UH, I THINK FOUR SPEAKERS. SO LET ME READ THE INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE SPEAKERS THAT ARE INTENDING TO MAKE COPY, UH, COMMENTS TONIGHT DURING THIS PORTION OF THE COUNCIL MEETING, 30 MINUTES IS ALLOCATED FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO PROVIDE COMMENTS TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON AGENDA ITEMS. IF YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK ON THE PUBLIC HEARING, PLEASE WAIT UNTIL THAT PUBLIC HEARING IS OPENED. IF THERE'S TIME LEFT DURING THE INITIAL 30 MINUTES, THE REMAINING TIME WILL BE PROVIDED AS A VISITOR'S FORUM OPEN TO ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ANY TOPIC IN WHICH SUBJECT MATTER IS WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE CITY. IF THE FULL 30 MINUTES ALLOCATED FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENT IS REACHED, THEN SPEAKERS WILL HAVE SUBMITTED. A PUBLIC COMMENT CARD MAY SPEAK AT THE VISITOR'S FORM SCHEDULED. AT THE END OF THE MEETING, ALL SPEAKERS SHOULD COMPLETE A COMMENT CARD AND SUBMIT IT TO THE CITY SECRETARY BEFORE THE MEETING BEGINS. SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED IN A ORDER THAT THEY'RE RECEIVED. WHEN YOUR NAME IS CALLED, PLEASE STEP TO THE PODIUM. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. ALL SPEAKERS WILL BE LIMITED TO A MAXIMUM FIVE MINUTES AS INDICATED BY THE TIMER. WHEN THE TIMER BEEPS, THE SPEAKER SHOULD CONCLUDE THEIR COMMENTS PROMPTLY. SPEAKERS MUST NOT PHYSICALLY APPROACH MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL OR STAFF AND SHOULD REMAIN AT THE PODIUM DURING THEIR COMMENTS. SPEAKERS WITH HANDOUTS MUST PROVIDE THEM TO THE CITY SECRETARY FOR DISTRIBUTION. SPEAKER SUBMITTING COMMENTS ON THE SAME TOPIC ARE ENCOURAGED TO REDUCE, UH, REPETITIVE REMARKS BY INDICATING THEIR COMMENTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN ADDRESSED. OR BY SELECTING A REPRESENTATIVE SPEAKER. THE TEXAS OPEN MEETING ACTS PROHIBITS THE CITY COUNCIL FROM DISCUSSING OR TAKING ACTION ON ITEMS THAT ARE NOT PASSED POSTED ON THE AGENDA. CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITY STAFF WILL NOT AFFIRM OR OPPOSE ANY SPEAKER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS. THE MAYOR, CITY MANAGER MAY RESPOND WITH FACTS, A POLICY OR DIRECT CITY STAFF TO RESPOND TO THE SPEAKER. AFTER THE MEETING, THE AUDIENCE IS ASKED TO REFRAIN FROM APPLAUDING OR OTHER EXPRESSIONS OF SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION, A COPY OF THE CITY COUNCIL RULES OF ORDER AND PROCEDURE. AND THESE GUIDELINES MAY BE FOUND ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE. AND THIS TIME I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE TO SILENCE THEIR CELL PHONE FOR THE DURATION OF THE MEETING. I'LL NOW TURN IT OVER TO OUR CITY SECRETARY MANER, TO CALL SPEAKERS MAYOR, I HAVE FOUR CARDS. DREW FITZGERALD WILL BE FIRST IS DREW FITZGERALD IN THE AUDIENCE. ALRIGHT, MS. NEER, ALEX STEIN. ALEX STEIN, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM. HELLO, COUNSEL. UH, MY NAME'S ALEX STEIN. I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE LATEST POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE IN TEXAS. I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE ILLEGALS FOR TRUMP CAMPAIGN. AND WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS ON THE UPCOMING 2024 ELECTION, DONALD TRUMP IS GOING TO PROMISE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS BETTER SOCIAL SERVICES THAN THEY'RE CURRENTLY GETTING UNDER JOE BIDEN. WE'RE NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT FREE HOTEL ROOMS IN NEW YORK CITY. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FREE APARTMENTS. FOR YEARS, WE FEEL LIKE THE AMERICAN CITIZENS HAVE BEEN A [00:05:01] STRAIN ON OUR SOCIAL SERVICES AND THAT VENEZUELAN IMMIGRANTS AND HAITIAN CANNIBALS DESERVE IT JUST AS MUCH AS AMERICANS. AND AS A MATTER OF FACT, THE RAT PROBLEM IN NEW YORK, WE THINK THAT IF WE GOT ENOUGH HAITIAN CANNIBALS IN MANHATTAN, THEY COULD ACTUALLY EAT THE RATS INSTEAD OF EATING EACH OTHER. HAVE YOU GUYS SEEN THIS ON TV? THESE HAITIAN CANNIBALS? AND WE STAND WITH THAT. NOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE YOU MIGHT THINK, OH, THIS IS SOME JOKE. WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? NO, THIS IS A REAL POLITICAL MOVEMENT THAT'S DIALED IN WITH THE ONE, THE ONLY PRESIDENT TRUMP, WE'RE GONNA CALL HIM RIGHT NOW IF I CAN GET HIM ON THE PHONE. HE'S A VERY BUSY RIGHT NOW. HE HAS A TERRIBLE COURT CASE, BUT THAT'S NEITHER HERE NOR THERE. DONALD TRUMP'S THE GREATEST PRESIDENT WE'VE EVER HAD. AND WHAT HE'S GONNA DO FOR THESE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS, JOE BIDEN COULDN'T DREAM OF. THEY DON'T NEED A VACCINE. THEY DON'T NEED ANYTHING. ALL THEY NEED IS A DREAM AND A HOPE AND A PRAYER. AND THROUGH DONALD TRUMP, THESE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS ARE GONNA GET MORE THAN THEY'VE EVER BARGAINED FOR. LET'S SEE, PRESIDENT TRUMP, ARE YOU THERE? AND HE WILL BE. YES, I'M HERE. I'M HERE. AND, UH, WE ARE DOING VERY WELL. I JUST HAVE TO SAY, UH, WE'RE DOING TREMENDOUSLY WELL, I HEAR YOU TALKING ABOUT OUR FAVORITE PEOPLE, THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. YES, PRESIDENT TRUMP, WILL YOU TELL 'EM WHAT YOU'RE GONNA PROMISE THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS IF THEY COME ACROSS THE BORDER WHILE YOU'RE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA? WELL, HERE'S WHAT WE SAY. YOU KNOW, WE SAY THESE PEOPLE ARE BAD HOMBRES, BUT THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE GOOD HOMBRES. IF THEY VOTE FOR ME, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THEM. AND A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T LIKE THIS . WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THEM THE GOLDEN SOMBRERO. THESE ARE TREMENDOUS PEOPLE GOING. THE GOLDEN GOLDEN SOMBRERO. YOU GUYS HEAR THAT? IT'S GOING SOMBRERO. THEY'RE GOING SO GOLDEN. SOLID GOLD. SOLID GOLD. IT'S GOING TO BE TREMENDOUS. AND THEY'RE GOING TO LOVE IT IF THEY VOTE FOR ME AND THEY'RE GOING TO VOTE. THEY'RE NEVER VOTING FOR A PERSON WHO POOPED IN FRONT OF THE POPE. IT'S NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN. , PRESIDENT TRUMP, YOU ARE THE WORLD'S GREATEST COMEDIAN. ALL RIGHT? THE ILLEGALS HAVE YOUR BACK. AND WE'RE HERE IN TEXAS FIGHTING FOR YOU. PRESIDENT TRUMP, STAY STRONG. THANK YOU. GOD BLESS YOU. GOD BLESS YOU GUYS. YOU HEARD IT FROM THE 45TH PRESIDENT. SO I WANT THE CITY OF RICHARDSON TO DO MORE FOR THE SOCIAL SERVICES OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS AND THROUGH DONALD TRUMP, WE'RE GONNA DO IT. I SEE THERE'S ONE MIDDLE EASTERN GUY. DON'T YOU WANT ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS TO COME OVER HERE AND GET FREE STUFF? I SURE AS HECK DO. THAT'S THE AMERICA I WANNA LIVE IN. I'M SICK OF ALL THESE, YOU KNOW, UH, SILVER SPOON, MIDDLE CLASS AMERICANS THAT CAN'T AFFORD A HOUSE, THAT CAN'T AFFORD TO GO TO COLLEGE, THEY DON'T DESERVE SOCIAL SERVICES. YOU KNOW WHAT WE NEED? WE NEED HAITIAN CRIMINALS. THAT'S WHAT WE NEED PEOPLE WITH LONGER. THE CRIMINAL RECORD, THE MORE DONALD TRUMP IS GONNA HELP YOU IN 2024, BECAUSE WE DON'T CARE. YOU AND I, WE MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO USE OUR PASSPORT IF WE HAVE A CRIME ON OUR RECORD. WE CAN'T EVEN GO TO CANADA. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? A ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT WITH FELONIES, MULTIPLE FELONIES. COME ON DOWN TO CHINATOWN, WE MEAN AMERICA. SO GUYS, WE'RE DOING THIS TO SAVE THE COUNTRY. WE'RE GONNA MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN. WE'RE GONNA DO IT THROUGH PRESIDENT TRUMP. AND I KNOW SOME OF YOU LIB HARDS UP HERE. YOU GUYS ARE GONNA BE A LITTLE BUTT HURT ABOUT IT. BUT LISTEN, THIS COUNTRY IS BUILT ON THE BACKS OF BIG BOOTY LATINAS, BIG BOOTY LATINOS, AND THE PEOPLE WITH A HOPE AND A DREAM. AND THAT'S WHAT I HAVE. A HOPE AND A DREAM. SO THIS POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE ILLEGALS FOR TRUMP IS GOING TO CHANGE THE WORLD. I JUST WANNA SAY HALLELUJAH. HALLELUJAH. HALL. LOVE YOU DONALD TRUMP. I WILL ALWAYS LEAP AND I WILL EVEN IN JUMP TO HAVE YOUR BACK IS MY GREATEST GLORY. YOU'LL HELP EVERY ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT NO MATTER THEIR HORROR STORY. WE LOVE YOU SIR TRUMP. GOD BLESS, PEACE. PRIME TIME STEIN ON INSTAGRAM. IF YOU GUYS WANNA JOIN THE MOVEMENT. PEACE. ABEL GARCIA. HELLO RICHARDSON CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS ABEL. IS THAT, IS THIS BETTER? YEAH. HELLO, ROGER, SUNNY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS ABEL GARCIA AND I AM AN ILLEGAL, ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT FROM MEXICO. I FLED TO THE UNITED STATES BECAUSE I WAS FORCED TO TRANSITION MY GENDER TO A FEMALE BECAUSE OF THE CRAZY LIFESTYLE THAT I GREW UP SURROUNDED BY THE CARTEL. I'M SO UNGRATEFUL TO BE. I AM SO GRATEFUL TO BE HERE IN AMERICA. AND I'M FINALLY A MADIGAN SINCE I HAD MY BREAST IMPLANTS REMOVED, EVEN THOUGH I HAVE SOME SLIGHT GENITAL ATROPHY FROM THE HORMONE BLOCKERS THAT WAS PRESCRIBED, I'M STILL ABLE TO MEET A LOT OF COOL AND INTERESTING PEOPLE WHILE ALSO ENRICHING MY ME. CULTURALLY, I BELIEVE AMERICA IS THE GREATEST COUNTRY ON EARTH BECAUSE IT'S BUILT ON SECOND CHANCE. AND I BELIEVE THAT NO ONE IN THE WORLD THAT DESERVES A SECOND CHANCE AT HIS PRESIDENCY MORE THAN DONALD J. TRUMP. I AM HERE REPRESENTING THE NEWEST POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE IN RICHARDSON, TEXAS. WE ARE CALLED ILLEGALS FOR TRUMP. AND THROUGH THE POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE, WE HAVE THE LINE HAVE COMMUNICATIONS TO THE 45TH PRESIDENT. AND HE HAS ENSURE US THAT DONALD TRUMP WILL OFFER, WILL BE OFFERING ILLEGAL IMMIGRATIONS BETTER SOCIAL SERVICE THAN THEY ARE CURRENTLY UNDER JOE BIDEN. AND THAT IF YOU SIGN UP TODAY, WE CAN SHOW YOU HOW TO VOTE IN THE UPCOMING PRESIDENTIAL [00:10:01] ELECTION WITHOUT AN ID THROUGH THE USE OF MAIL-IN BALLOTS. WE, WE CAN ALSO HELP YOU ACCESS FREE HOTEL ROOMS IN NEW YORK CITY, AS WELL AS, AS WELL AS FREE VISA PRE PREPAID GIFT CARDS SO THEY CAN ENJOY AMERICA'S AWESOME CULTURE. THIS COUNTRY HAS SAVED MY LIFE AND BECAUSE OF THAT, MY GENITALS ARE ABLE TO HEAL FROM THE MEDICAL ABUSE I FACED OUTSIDE OF TEXAS. SO I BEG AND I PLEAD YOU TO PLEASE CONSIDER JOINING THE ILLEGALS FOR TRUMP POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE THAT WE CAN WIN THIS UPCOMING ELECTION AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE'S AT WATA HAS A FREE APARTMENT AND FREE HEALTHCARE, AND A USED 2004 HONDA CIVIC. AT THE VERY LEAST, ILLEGALS FOR TRUMP IS THE FUTURE. WE WELCOME ALL ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS, EVEN CHINESE, RUSSIANS, HAITIANS, DOMINICAN AFGHANISTANI, PAKISTANI, INDIAN, PUERTO RICAN, CANADIAN, SOUTH AFRICAN, AND ANY OTHER ILLEGAL ALIEN THAT WANTS TO SUPPORT TRUMP AND VOTE WITHOUT A LEGAL ID. PLEASE FOLLOW ME ON TWITTER FOR MORE INFORMATION AT OFFICIAL ABLE G WOULD YOU PLEASE GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD? NO CLAPPING, PLEASE NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. ABEL GARCIA IN DALLAS, TEXAS. THANK YOU. THAT WAS VERY GOOD. ABEL. HE'S AN ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT. GUYS, PLEASE, YOU'VE ALREADY HAD YOUR TIME, PLEASE TODAY. SORRY, JUST TIME TO HELP BE ILLEGAL. WHITAKER BRADLEY. HELLO, WHITAKER BRADLEY. UH, SNOWBOARDER LANE RICHARDSON, 7 5 2 4 6. AND HELLO, COUNSEL. MY NAME IS WHITAKER BRADLEY. MY PRONOUNS ARE THEY THEM. AND I RECENTLY MOVED TO TEXAS FROM NEW YORK CITY. I'M A PROUD MEMBER OF ANTIFA AND I HATE TEXAS POLITICS. BUT I MOVED HERE BECAUSE FASCIST NEW YORK POLITICIANS WON'T RAISE THE MINIMUM WAGE. AND BECAUSE TEXAS HAS A LOW COST OF LIVING AND NO STATE INCOME TAX. AND I WAS ABLE TO BUY A HOUSE WAY OVER ASKING PRICE, WHICH I LOVE, BUT THAT'S NOT THE POINT. THE REASON I'M HERE IS TO EMPLOY, IMPLORE YOU ALL TO ADOPT HYPER PROGRESSIVE POLICIES AS TEXAS LAWS HAVE BEEN PERSONALLY AFFECTING ME, WHETHER IT BE ATTACKING THE RIGHTS OF BIRTHING PARENTS OR MY TRANS 7-YEAR-OLD CHILD TO START THE OTHER DAY, I SAW JUST HOW MUCH FUN THOSE HAMAS PROTESTORS WERE HAVING A COLUMBIA AND YALE UNIVERSITY. SO I DECIDED TO JOIN IN ON THE FUND WITH MY COMRADES AND GO DO A LOCAL PROTEST. I FORGET IF IT WAS A FREE PALESTINE OR SLAVIA UKRAINE PROTEST, BUT THAT, THAT'S NOT THE POINT. WHAT IS IMPORTANT IS HOW MUCH TEXAS HATES FREE SPEECH AND HATES MY FIFTH AMENDMENT RIGHT TO PROTEST. 'CAUSE IN NEW YORK, THERE ARE NO RULES. YOU CAN LIGHT STUFF ON FIRE, LIVE IN TENTS, ON COLLEGE CAMPUSES, AND BASICALLY DESTROY ANYTHING. BUT AT THIS PROTEST, I GAVE ONE LITTLE SHOVE TO A COP AND I IMMEDIATELY GOT ASSAULTED, ARRESTED, AND TAKEN TO JAIL. AND THEY EVEN MADE ME PAY BAIL TO GET OUT. AND NEW YORK CITY, YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY BAIL FOR ANYTHING. SO NOW I'M AT $3,000 THAT I WAS GONNA USE ON FURRY COSTUMES. AND AND THAT LEADS TO MY NEXT POINT. MY 7-YEAR-OLD CHILD NOW IDENTIFIES AS A FURRY AND THE LOCAL SCHOOL SYSTEM HAS BEEN COMPLETELY UNACCOMMODATING TOWARDS HIS REQUEST TO HAVE A LITTER BOX IN THE CLASSROOM IN NEW YORK. THE SCHOOL SYSTEM WAS COMPLETELY COOPERATIVE WITH MY CHILD'S NEEDS, BUT THE ANTI-TRANS BIGOTRY IN TEXAS HAS BEEN DISHEARTENING TO SAY THE LEAST. AND NOBODY HERE IS WEARING A MASK. LIKE THE PANDEMIC ISN'T OVER. I'M FOLLOWING THE SCIENCE AND LIKE I'M STILL TERRIFIED. APPARENTLY CITY COUNCILS RUN BY LIBS OF TIKTOKS, SO I'M STILL FIGHTING THE VIRUS. I WANT YOU TO FIGHT WITH ME. RICHARDSON, WE CAN END THIS PANDEMIC ONCE AND FOR ALL. I HAVE MASKS FOR EVERYONE. THEY'RE JAGUAR PRINT, THEY'RE WONDERFUL. I CAN HAND 'EM OUT TO EVERYONE. BUT I'M BEGGING THE COUNCIL TO EMBRACE INTERSECTIONALITY, DECOLONIZE THE RADICAL RIGHT IN RICHARDSON. AND LET MY CHILD HAVE A LITTER BOX. AND I'LL END WITH THIS SONG BECAUSE I LOVE DR. FAUCI. DR. FAUCI. GIVE THAT OUCHIE, IT'LL MAKE YOU SMILE WHEN YOU FEEL A LITTLE GROUCHY. DR. FAUCI ISS MY ITALIAN STALLION, FREE PALESTINE AND A OFF BATTALION. THANK YOU. I WILL LEAVE A FEW MASKS UP HERE JUST FOR SAFETY AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH. STONEBERG LANE RICHARDSON. 7 5 2 4 6. THANK YOU. NO FURTHER CARDS, MAYOR. THANK YOU MS. NEAVER. [5. PRESENTATION OF A PROCLAMATION FOR ARBOR DAY] WE'LL NOW GO TO ITEM FIVE, PRESENTATION OF THE PROCLAMATION FOR ARBOR DAY. SO YOU WANNA DO IT UP HERE? UH, YEAH, MAYOR, UH, THANK YOU MAYOR AND MAYOR AND COUNCIL. UH, NATIONAL ARBOR DAY IS TRADITIONALLY CELEBRATED, UH, THAT FIRST FRIDAY IN APRIL. THIS PROCLAMATION WILL, UH, REALLY CONFIRM RICHARDSON'S COMMITMENT TO MAINTAINING AND EXPANDING OUR URBAN, OUR URBAN FOREST, THE TREE CITY USA PROGRAM, UH, WHICH WE, UH, HAD, UH, INDICATED A FEW WEEKS AGO. WE WERE GONNA SEEK DESIGNATION FROM. UH, THIS IS ONE OF THE KEY STEPS, UH, IN, UH, CERTIFICATION, UH, SOMETHING THAT I KNOW OUR COMMUNITY WILL BE, UH, VERY PROUD OF. SO AM MAYOR, IF YOU WOULD, UH, GO AHEAD AND, UH, READ THE PROCLAMATION AT THE PODIUM AND THEN COUNSEL, IF YOU WOULD JOIN OUR PARKS TEAM, UH, YVONNE AUGU AND, AND, UM, SEAN ROGERS. UH, WE'LL DO A, A QUICK P PICTURE, UH, COMMEMORATING THE PROCLAMATION AND THEN MOVE FORWARD. WELL THANK YOU MR. MAGNER. AND I SEE WE'VE GOT, UH, PARKS, UH, COMMISSIONER, CHAIR, MS. CROW AND [00:15:01] HER COHORT. MR. FALSE, IF THEY COULD JOIN US AND WE ALL GO TO THE PODIUM, WE'D APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MS. STEINER. OKAY. WHEREAS IN 1872, THE NEBRASKA BOARD OF AGRICULTURE ESTABLISHED A SPECIAL DAY TO BE SET ASIDE FOR THE PLANTING OF TREES. AND WHEREAS THIS HOLIDAY CALLED ARBOR DAY WAS FIRST OBSERVED WITH THE PLANTING OF MORE THAN 1 MILLION TREES IN NEBRASKA. AND WHEREAS ARBOR DAY IS NOW OBSERVED THROUGHOUT THE NATION AND THE WORLD. AND WHEREAS TREES CAN BE A SOLUTION TO COMBATING CLIMATE CHANGE BY REDUCING THE EROSION OF OUR PRECIOUS TOP SOIL BY WIND AND WATER, CUTTING, HEATING AND COOLING COSTS, MODERATING THE TEMPERATURE, CLEANING THE AIR, PRODUCING LIFE, GIVING OXYGEN, AND PROVIDING HABITAT FOR WILDLIFE. AND WHEREAS TREES ARE RE A RENEWABLE RESOURCE, GIVING US PAPER WOOD FOR OUR HOMES, FUEL FOR OUR FIRES, AND COUNTLESS OTHER WOOD PRODUCTS. AND WHEREAS TREES IN OUR CITY INCREASE PROPERTY VALUES, ENHANCE THE ECONOMIC VITALITY OF BUSINESS AREAS AND BEAUTIFY OUR COMMUNITY. AND WHEREAS TREES, WHATEVER, WHEREVER THEY ARE PLANTED, ARE A SOURCE OF JOY AND SPIRITUAL RENEW RENEWAL. NOW, EXCUSE ME, EXCUSE ME NOW, THEREFORE, I BOB DUBY, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF RICHARDSON, TEXAS, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM APRIL 26TH, 2024 AS ARBOR DAY IN THE CITY OF RICHARDSON AND URGE ALL CITIZENS TO CELEBRATE ARBOR DAY, TO SUPPORT EFFORTS TO PROTECT OUR TREES AND WOODLANDS, TO PLANT TREES, TO GLADEN THE HEART AND PROMOTE THE WELLBEING OF THIS AND FUTURE GENERATIONS GIVEN UNDER MY HAND AND SEAL OF OFFICE. THE 22ND DAY OF APRIL, 2024, RADB. THANK YOU. Y'ALL WILL KEEP JOINING ME, COUNSEL AND PARKS DEPARTMENT. ALRIGHT, AND BIG SMILES, LOOK HERE, MARY, AS WE WRAP THIS ITEM UP, I JUST REMIND THE COUNSEL THAT ANOTHER IMPORTANT FACET TO, UM, THE, UH, PROGRAM THAT WE ROLLED OUT, UH, A FEW WEEKS AGO IS THE TREE ORDINANCE, UH, THAT'S CURRENTLY BEING FINALIZED BY OUR CITY ATTORNEY. AND, UH, WE'LL HAVE THAT ON FOR ADOPTION, UH, WITHIN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS. AND THAT'LL BE THE KIND OF THE LAST PIECE, UH, TO THIS STORY BEFORE WE GO AHEAD AND SUBMIT FOR THE, UH, TREE CITY USA DESIGNATION. THANK YOU MR. MAGNER. THANK YOU PARKS. AT THIS, THIS TIME [6. REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE 2024 GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND AND CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION BOND SALE] TIME, WE'LL GO TO ITEM NUMBER SIX, REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE 2024 GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND AND CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION BOND SALE. MR. MAGNER. UH, THANK YOU MAYOR. THE FYA, UH, 24 APPROVED BUDGET INCLUDES IN ISSUANCE OF DEBT, UH, FOR YEAR THREE OF THE 21 BOND PROGRAM AND YEAR ONE OF THE 23 BOND PROGRAM, AS WELL AS THE ANNUAL ISSU ISSUANCE FOR OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, UH, VEHICLES AND EQUIPMENT. UH, TONIGHT WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE, UH, NICK BASH, WHO IS THE MANAGING DIRECTOR AT HILLTOP SECURITIES AND BOB DRANSFIELD, WHO'S A PARTNER AT NORTON ROSE FULBRIGHT WITH US. UM, NICK IS GOING TO PROVIDE YOU WITH THE BRIEFING, AND OF COURSE, UH, BOB AS ALWAYS IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. UM, YOU'LL HAVE TWO ORDINANCES, UM, ON YOUR AGENDA TONIGHT, UH, FOR ACTION. AND, UH, NICK, THANKS TO YOU AND TO BOB AND YOUR WHOLE TEAM FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE DONE TO GET US HERE TONIGHT. IT IS A JOURNEY EACH YEAR AND, UH, REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO FOR THE CITY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND, UH, MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, MY NAME IS NICK ASH FROM HILLTOP SECURITIES, [00:20:01] AND I'M HERE TO REPORT ON, UH, THE SUCCESSFUL PRICING THAT OCCURRED THIS MORNING. AND I'M GOING TO REFER, UH, I PUT THIS BOOK IN FRONT OF YOU ALL, KINDA REFER TO SOME PAGES THROUGHOUT THIS, BUT JUST STARTING AT THE COVER PAGE, UM, WE SOLD $62,915,000 OF GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS. THAT'S IS GOING TO FUND $67.53 MILLION OF PROJECT. SO WE'RE ACTUALLY FUNDING MORE THAN THE BONDS WE SOLD IS 'CAUSE THESE BONDS SOLD AT A PREMIUM MORE THAN A HUNDRED PENNIES ON THE DOLLAR, AND I'LL GET TO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE HERE IN A MINUTE. WE ALSO SOLD 19,630,000 OF CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION, SIMILARLY TO THE GO BONDS, THOSE ALSO SOLD AT A PREMIUM. SO WE'RE FUNDING 20.955 MILLION OF PROJECTS. AND INCLUDED IN THOSE CO PROJECTS ARE NOT ONLY GENERAL GOVERNMENT, BUT SOLID WASTE AND UTILITY FUND, UH, PROJECTS AND COMPONENTS. SO IT'S ALL ROLLED UP INTO ONE. THE, UH, SHORT OF IT IS THESE, THE, THE FINAL RATES CAME IN BETTER THAN PROJECTED. I KNOW YOU ALL DURING BUDGET TIME, YOU SEE THE, THE PLANNING WORKSHEETS THAT WE PUT TOGETHER. AND, UH, WE CAME IN, WELL BE BENEATH OUR PROJECTIONS. UH, THE PRICING WENT VERY WELL. OVER 30, 30 INVESTORS PARTICIPATED AND, UH, THE UNDERWRITING SYNDICATE GENERATED OVER A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS OF ORDERS. UH, TURNING RIGHT BEHIND THAT COVER PAGE IS A MEMO. AND SO THE GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS SOLD AT 3.86%. THEIR CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATIONS SOLD AT 3.81%. THEY HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT AVERAGE LIFE, WHICH IS A REASON FOR THE DIFFERENCE IN RATE AS WELL AS THE SIZE. THE AAA RATING FROM S AND P AND THE AAA RATING FROM MOODY'S WERE BOTH AFFIRMED. AND JUST TO PUT THAT IN PERSPECTIVE, THE CITY OF RICHARDSON IS ONE OF 11 CITIES IN THE STATE OF TEXAS THAT HAS THAT RATING COMBINATION. AND THE CITY HAS HAD THAT COMBINATION, UH, SINCE 2010 FROM BOTH WHEN IT WAS, UH, UPGRADED BY MOODY'S TO AAA. WE INCLUDED SOME EXCERPTS FROM THE RATING REPORTS, AND THE ACTUAL RATING REPORTS ARE BEHIND TAB THREE THAT YOU CAN REVIEW AT YOUR, UH, AT YOUR LEISURE. BUT BOTH RATING REPORTS DRILL DOWN ON COMMON THEMES, STRONG HISTORY OF OPERATING PERFORMANCE, UM, ECONOMIC EXPANSION, THE ECONOMIC, UH, VITALITY OF THE, UH, THE CITY AND THE EXPERIENCE MANAGEMENT TEAM AND STRONG FINANCIAL POLICIES AND PRACTICES. AND THEN IF YOU LOOK RIGHT BEHIND THAT, YOU'RE, YOU'RE GONNA SEE A GRAPH JUST BEFORE TAB WHERE IT SAYS TAB ONE. THE, THE GRAPH LOOKS LIKE THIS LITTLE BLUE INSET. AND I JUST WANT TO KIND OF VISIT WITH YOU A LITTLE BIT ON WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE MUNICIPAL MARKET RIGHT NOW. THIS IS A, A, A RATE CHART OF WHAT'S CALLED THE BOND BUYERS INDEX. IT'S AN AVERAGE RATE INDEX THAT TRACKS MARKET MOVEMENTS IN THE MUNICIPAL BOND MARKET. IT'S SIMILAR TO THE DOW JONES OR THE S AND P FOR EQUITIES. AND, AND SO WHAT YOU CAN SEE IN THIS INDEX IN THE BLUE CHART, AS YOU CAN SEE WHAT HAS HAPPENED OVER THE PAST YEAR, UM, SINCE APRIL OF LAST YEAR, WE STARTED REALLY INCREASING PRETTY SIGNIFICANTLY THIS PER THIS INDEX. UM, GRANTED, IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, FOLLOWING THE FED'S RHETORIC AND THE FEDS SAYING, WE'RE, WE'RE INCREASING RATES, WE'RE INCREASING RATES. AND THEN AROUND DECEMBER, NOVEMBER, DECEMBER, THIS THEY FED STARTED COMMUNICATING, WE MIGHT BE DONE. SO THEN YOU SEE HOW THIS INDEX JUST FELL OFF A TABLE HERE AND DECLINED VERY DRAMATICALLY. AND THEN WE'VE STARTED COMING BACK UP JUST A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE OF THE FED SAYING, WHOA, WHOA, WHOA, WAIT A MINUTE. WE MAY NOT BE DONE HERE. SO, UM, WHILE THE MOVEMENT LOOKS VERY DRAMATIC, IF YOU LOOK AT THE, THE BOTTOM CHART AND THIS CHART IS, UH, SINCE 1981, YOU CAN SEE WHERE, AND THE RED LINE GOING ACROSS IS WHERE THE CURRENT RATE IS TODAY, WE'RE STILL VERY, VERY ATTRACTIVE ON A, ON A LONG-TERM BASIS. YOU SEE THE VERY, VERY LOW POINTS DURING 2020 TO 2022. THAT'S THE COVID YEARS WHEN THE GOVERNMENT WAS PUMPING, UH, EXCESS LIQUIDITY INTO THE MARKET AND DRIVING RATES DOWN. SO WHILE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S BEEN VOLATILE AND HAS BEEN VOLATILE, BUT ON A HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE, THE RATES ARE STILL VERY ATTRACTIVE. TURNING TO TAB ONE, JUST TO GO THROUGH THE GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND SALE, THIS FIRST PAGE IS JUST A FRONT COVER OF THE PRELIMINARY OFFICIAL STATEMENT THAT WAS, UH, PRODUCED TO, TO MARKET THE BONDS. THE DOCUMENTS ABOUT 60 SOMETHING PAGES LONG. WE DIDN'T INCLUDE THE ENTIRE UH, PIECE, BUT WE, WE PUT IN WHAT THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF THE PAR AMOUNT COULD HAVE BEEN. THEN AS YOU FLIP THROUGH IT, YOU'RE GONNA SEE, UH, A BLUE BOARDED SHEET ON A THIRD PAGE IN, UH, AND ITS SOURCES AND USES OF FUNDS WHERE IT, IT [00:25:01] SHOWS WE SOLD 62.95 MILLION OF PAR GENERATED REOFFERING PREMIUM, ABOUT 5.1 MILLION. THAT IS THOSE, THAT'S THAT PREMIUM THAT THE BOND INVESTORS PURCHASE THE, UH, THE BONDS FROM THE CITY FOR. AND THEN IF YOU LOOK IN THE USES OF FUNDS, YOU SEE UNDERWRITERS DISCOUNT, WHICH IS WHAT IS PAID TO SELL THE BONDS COST OF ISSUANCE, WHICH IS, UH, MY FEE BOND COUNSEL FEE ATTORNEY GENERAL REVIEW, FEE RATING, AGENT FEES, A WHOLE HOST OF, UH, ISSUANCE COSTS ARE THERE. AND THEN YOU SEE THE DEPOSIT TO THE CONSTRUCTION FUND OF 67000000.5 OR 530,000. SO THAT PREMIUM IS GENERATED AND IT'S DEPOSITED INTO THE CONSTRUCTION FUND. IT COUNTS AGAINST THE VOTER AUTHORIZATION. IT'S, UM, NOT NECESSARILY FREE MONEY, BUT IT DOES, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU DO HAVE PREMIUM AND, AND SELL LESS PAR. TURNING TO THE NEXT PAGE, THIS IS THE DEBT SERVICE SCHEDULE. AND YOU CAN SEE, UH, IF YOU LOOK AT PRINCIPAL INTEREST, THEN TOTAL P AND I ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, THE BONDS ARE 20 YEAR BONDS. THE FIRST YEAR HAS A SIGNIFICANTLY LARGER PAYMENT. WE'RE ACCELERATING PRINCIPAL TO PAY OFF THE DEBT FASTER. AND THEN IT'S ABOUT LEVEL DEBT SERVICE, ABOUT 4.19 MILLION FROM 2026 TO 2024. THESE, THIS, THESE RATES WILL NOT CHANGE AND, UM, IT'S A FIXED RATE BOND. TURNING TO THE NEXT PAGE, PRICING SUMMARY. THIS IS KIND OF GETTING INTO THE, UH, HOW THE SAUSAGE IS MADE IN TERMS OF THAT PREMIUM THAT'S PRODUCED. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE COLUMN WHERE IT SHOWS PRICE, ANYTIME YOU SEE OVER 100%, THAT IS A PREMIUM BOND. SO THEY'RE PAYING, THOSE INVESTORS ARE PAYING YOU MORE THAN A HUNDRED PENNIES ON THE DOLLAR. HOW THAT IS DERIVED IS IF THE COUPON RATE THAT YOU PAY IS GREATER THAN THE MARKET YIELD, THEN THOSE BONDS WILL SELL AT A PREMIUM. UH, VICE VERSA. IF THE COUPON RATE IS, UH, HIGH, UH, EXCUSE ME, LOWER THAN THE MARKET YIELD, THAN THOSE BONDS WILL SELL AT A DISCOUNT, WHICH WE DID. IF YOU LOOK AT THE KIND OF THE, TOWARDS THE END OF THE, UM, SCHEDULE, ANY QUESTIONS I CAN ANSWER BEFORE I MOVE ON TO THE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION, UH, WHICH IS BEHIND THE NEXT TAB. OKAY. UH, BEHIND TAB TWO, VERY SIMILAR, UH, THIS IS THE FRONT PAGE OF THE PRELIMINARY OFFICIAL STATEMENT, AND THEN IF YOU LOOK AT A COUPLE PAGES IN, YOU'LL SEE THE SOURCES AND USES, AGAIN, 19.63 MILLION GENERATED ABOUT $1.5 MILLION OF PREMIUM. AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE USES OF FUNDS. AGAIN, THE UNDERWRITER'S DISCOUNT THE COST OF ISSUANCE, AND THEN DEPOSIT TO THE PROJECT CONSTRUCTION FUND OF 20,955,000. THE NEXT PAGE, DEBT SERVICE SCHEDULE. I DO WANNA SPEND A SECOND ON THIS ONE. IF YOU LOOK, IT'S SET UP VERY SIMILAR PRINCIPLE INTEREST TOTAL P AND I, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE TOTAL P AND I COLUMN, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE FOR THE FIRST 10 YEARS, IT'S ABOUT 1.77 MILLION, AND THEN IT DROPS DOWN TO 1.3 MILLION, AND THEN AGAIN, IT DROPS DOWN AGAIN TO ABOUT 1.2 MILLION. THAT IS, WE ARE FINANCING SOME SHORT LIVE ASSETS AND, UH, PROJECTS WITHIN THIS. SO WE'RE NOT EXTENDING THE DEBT BEYOND THE USEFUL LIFE OF THE, OF THE, THOSE ASSETS THAT WE'RE FINANCING. SO WE'RE, AGAIN, NOT, NOT FINANCING A, A CAR OVER 20 YEARS, WE'RE STAYING SHORT WITHIN THE USEFUL LIFE. AND THEN FINALLY, UM, AGAIN, HERE'S THE PRICING SUMMARY PAGE OF THE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION. SMALLER BLOCK SIZES, MEANING, UM, YOU KNOW, THE GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS WAS MUCH LARGER DEAL, SO IT HAD A BUNCH OF 5% COUPONS. THIS ONE HAD A MIX OF A LITTLE BIT LOWER COUPONS IN THE FRONT END, BUT STILL SOLD AT A NET PREMIUM. AND, UM, BEFORE I MOVE ON, I DO JUST WANT TO TAKE QUICK SECOND TO, TO THANK, UH, KENT AND ANITA AND THEIR TEAM BECAUSE GOING, DOING THESE BOND SALES REQUIRES A LOT OF WORK. WE'RE ASKING THEM A LOT OF QUESTIONS, REVIEW A LOT OF DOCUMENTS, AND, UM, WE COULDN'T HAVE HAD THIS SUCCESSFUL SELL WITHOUT THEIR HELP, UM, THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PROCESS. SO JUST WANNA SAY THANKS TO THEM IN, IN TERMS OF THAT. BUT WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SALE TODAY AND VERY PLEASED. AND AS, UH, MR. MAGNER MENTIONED, UH, BOB DRANSFIELD BOND COUNCIL'S HERE, AND HE HAS INCORPORATED ALL OF THESE FINAL PRICING TERMS INTO THE ORDINANCE FOR THE CITY COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION TONIGHT. NICK, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. COUNSEL, ANY QUESTIONS, ANYBODY? ALRIGHT, EVERYBODY'S GIVEN US A UNANIMOUS THUMBS UP. Y'ALL ARE AWESOME, BOB, NICK, THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH. WE REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING AND THANKS TO KENT AND YOUR TEAM FOR ANOTHER JOB WELL DONE. AND WE THANK STANDARD AND POORS AND MOODY'S, APPRECIATE IT. OKAY. [7. PUBLIC HEARING, ZONING FILE 24-02, A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF A SPECIAL PERMIT FOR A PRIVATE SCHOOL ON AN 8.6-ACRE LOT CURRENTLY ZONED LOCAL RETAIL LR-M(2) LOCATED WITHIN AN EXISTING BUILDING AT 1301 ABRAMS ROAD, ON THE EAST SIDE OF ABRAMS ROAD, NORTH OF WALNUT STREET.] [00:30:01] ALL RIGHTY. WE'RE GONNA GO TO ITEM SEVEN, PUBLIC HEARING ZONING FILE 24 DASH OH TWO. A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF A SPECIAL PERMIT FOR A PRIVATE SCHOOL LOCATED WITHIN AN EXISTING BUILDING AT 1301 ABRAMS ROAD. MR. MAGNER. THANK YOU, MAYOR. MAYOR, UH, COUNSEL, UH, OUR DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, SAM CHAVEZ, IS GONNA PROVIDE CITY PRESENTATION THEN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. UH, THEN THE APPLICANT IS HERE, UH, TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL. AND THEN, UH, WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, AND THEN YOU CAN, UH, FOR, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO DELIBERATE SUBSEQUENT TO THAT. SO, SAM, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. YES, THIS EVENING IS, UH, IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING FOR ZONING FILE 24 DASH ZERO TWO. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 1301 ABRAMS ROAD. UH, MORE SPECIFICALLY, IT'S ON THE EAST SIDE OF ABRAMS ROAD, NORTH OF WALNUT, UH, STREET CURRENT, UH, THE CURRENT ZONING ON THE PROPERTY IS LRM TWO, WHICH IS A LOCAL RETAIL DISTRICT, IS CURRENTLY OCCUPIED BY THE ARI, UH, PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH. THE REQUEST IS FOR A SPECIAL PERMIT FOR A PRIVATE SCHOOL LIMITED TO A MAXIMUM OF 748 STUDENTS, ALTHOUGH HALF OF THESE STUDENTS WILL ATTEND, UH, THE SCHOOL EACH DAY, SO THEY'RE SPLIT. THE NEXT SERIES OF PHOTOS ARE SLIGHT PHOTOS OF THE ACTUAL, UH, EXISTING FACILITY. UH, YOU CAN SEE THE NORTH ELEVATION, UH, THE EAST ELEVATION OF OF, OF THE STRUCTURE. YOU ALSO HAVE THE SOUTH ELEVATION, UH, AND YOU, YOU'RE LOOKING IN, UH, INTO THE DIRECTION FROM, UH, FROM THE CITY OF DALLAS AND IN THE WEST ELEVATION LOOKING FROM, UH, ABRAMS ROAD. THE TOTAL SITE, UH, IS UNIQUE IN, IN THE FACT THAT IT IS 8.6 ACRES IN SIZE, FIVE ACRES OF IT, OR A LITTLE BIT OVER FIVE ACRES IS LOCATED IN THE CITY OF RICHARDSON. THE OTHER THREE AND A HALF ACRES ARE LOCATED IN THE CITY OF DALLAS. UH, THE BUILDING AREA, UH, THE PROPOSED BUILDING AREA IS, UH, APPROXIMATELY, UH, 74,846 SQUARE FEET. THE BUILDING HEIGHT IS TWO STORIES OR MAXIMUM OF 45 FEET. UH, THERE ARE 367 PARKING SPACES ON THIS, UH, SITE. AND, UH, THE LANDSCAPE AREA, THE REQUIRED PERCENTAGE IS SEVEN 7%. UH, THE AREA, UH, THE SITE PROVIDES 36% OF LANDSCAPE AREA. SO WE'RE, SO WE'RE DRILLING, UH, A LITTLE DEEPER INTO THE SITE ITSELF. AND THIS IS ROUGHLY THE, THE AC THE ACREAGE THAT IS WITHIN THE CITY OF RICHARDSON'S, UH, CITY LIMITS. THE BUILDING AREA REMAINS THE SAME. UH, IT'S 74,846 SQUARE FEET. THE EXISTING SQUARE FOOTAGE IS, IT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT OVER 70,000 SQUARE FEET. THERE IS AN ADDITION OF A, UH, STORM SHELTER, AND I'LL SHOW YOU THAT SHORTLY. THE BUILDING HEIGHT REMAINS THE SAME. THERE ARE 201 PARKING SPACES ON THIS SITE, ON THIS SIDE OF THE, OF THE PROPERTY. THE LANDSCAPE AREA IS, UH, IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE 7%. THEY'RE ACTUALLY PROVIDING 25% OF LANDSCAPE AREA. SO IN ALL, UH, ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS AND REQUIRED PARKING SPACES ARE WITHIN THE CITY OF RICHARDSON'S. UM, UH, CITY LIMITS, UH, THIS IS A PROPOSED AND REQUIRED STORM SHELTER, UH, FOR THE FACILITY. THE ACTUAL STORM SHELTER'S LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE BUILDING LABELED THERE IS BUILDING TWO. UH, IT'S ROUGHLY, UH, ABOUT 4,000 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE, THE SINGLE STORY, UH, FOR A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 15 FEET. AN IMPORTANT ELEMENT OF, OF WHAT GOES INTO REVIEWING A REQUEST FOR A PRIVATE SCHOOL IS REALLY THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT AND THE QUEING PLAN. SO, UH, WHAT YOU SEE IN FRONT OF YOU IS A STAGGERED DROP OFF AND PICKUP TIME FOR THE SCHOOL THAT WILL HAVE, UH, ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, ELEMENTARY AGE SCHOOL STUDENTS, MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS. SO YOU CAN SEE THE DROP OFF TIMES STAGGER, UH, ABOUT FIVE MINUTES, UH, 8:00 AM TO EIGHT TO 8:10 AM FOR THE MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL. THEN EIGHT 15 TO 8:30 AM FOR THE ELEMENTARY. THE PICKUP TIMES, AGAIN, ARE STAGGERED. 2 45 TO THREE O'CLOCK FOR MIDDLE SCHOOL, 3:00 PM TO THREE 15 FOR, UH, ELEMENTARY, AND THEN 3 45 TO 4:00 PM FOR THE HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS. THE OTHER ELEMENT, OF COURSE, IS THE AMOUNT OF QUEUING SPACES. BASED ON THIS, ON THE QUEUING PLAN, UH, THEY'RE PROVIDING 1,643 LINEAL FEET OF QUEUING AREA, AND THAT WOULD BE FROM THE POINT THAT THEY ENTER ON ABRAMS ALL THE WAY TO WHERE THEY DROP OFF THE, UH, OF THE STUDENTS, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY COULD HOLD ABOUT 75 VEHICLES. UH, AND THAT WOULD BE FOR THE ELEMENTARY AGE STUDENTS. THE MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL PROVIDES A HUNDRED, UH, 1,155 [00:35:02] LINEAL FEET OF QUEUING. SO THAT'S APPROXIMATELY 53, UH, VEHICLES. THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION, UH, CONSIDERED THE, THIS REQUEST AT THEIR MARCH, UH, 19TH, UH, COMMISSION MEETING. THERE WERE NO PUBLIC COMMENTS RECEIVED AT THAT AT THAT TIME. THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION VOTED SEVEN ZERO TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST WITH THE FOLLOWING AMENDMENTS. AND THESE, UH, THESE CONDITIONS ARE IN YOUR STAFF REPORT, THEY RELATE TO, UM, TO CONDITION ONE B. UH, IT WENT FROM A MAXIMUM ENROLLMENT OF 748 STUDENTS TO A MAXIMUM OF 400 STUDENTS ATTENDING PER DAY. AGAIN, THE TRAFFIC IMPACT, THE TRAFFIC, UH, CIRCULATION, THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN WAS BASED ON THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS PER DAY AS OPPOSED TO TOTAL, UH, THE, UH, THE, UH, TOTAL ENROLLMENT AND ALSO AN AMENDMENT TO CONDITION ONE E, UH, FROM PRE-FINISHED STEEL FENCING TO PRE-FINISHED METAL FENCING OF EXISTING AND PROPOSED MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT AREAS. UH, AGAIN, UH, YOUR ACTION TONIGHT, UH, CITY COUNCIL MAY APPROVE THE REQUEST AS PRESENTED, APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS OR AMENDED CONDITIONS, OR DENY THE REQUESTS. UH, THE APPLICANTS ARE HERE TONIGHT, UH, TO PRESENT THEIR CASE HERE AND ALSO TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU, SAM. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. COUNSEL. WE HAVE ANY MR. HUT AND RUTTER. THANK YOU, MAYOR. SAM, DID WE HAVE ANY TRAFFIC COUNSEL? I MEAN, WE DO, DO WE HAVE A FEEL AT ALL FOR HOW THIS WILL IMPACT THE, THE, THE AREA ROADS? I'M LOOKING THROUGH THE STAFF REPORT RIGHT NOW. UH, I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING IN WHAT WAS PROVIDED TO US, BUT I MAY HAVE MISSED IT. LET ME GET THAT AND THEN I'LL ANSWER THAT FOR YOU SHORTLY. OKAY. AND THEN SECOND QUESTION IS, GIVEN THAT THIS IS HIGH SCHOOL, DOES IT, IT, AND IT MAY BE THE APPLICANT WHO NEEDS TO ANSWER THIS 'CAUSE I, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, WHEN PEOPLE SAY HIGH SCHOOL, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY MEAN ALL FOUR YEARS OF HIGH SCHOOL. IS THIS TWO YEARS, OR DO YOU KNOW? THESE ARE ALL FOUR YEARS OF HIGH SCHOOL. SO WILL THERE BE PARKING BY STUDENTS? THERE, THERE IS A PARKING PLAN IN THAT, IN THAT TRAFFIC MITIGATION OR THAT TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT SHOWS THE, THE AREA WHERE THOSE STUDENTS WILL PARK. AND IT'S, I BELIEVE IT'S ON THE, UH, SOUTHEAST PORTION OF THE PROPERTY. LET ME, YEAH, LET ME GET BACK TO THAT ONE. SO IT WOULD BE IN, IN, THAT'S IN, THAT'S IN, THAT'S, UH, SOUTHERN EAST PORTION OF THE PROPERTY. AND CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE, TO THE CIRCULATION PLAN? YES, SIR. OF THE CARS. SO RIGHT NOW YOU'RE SHOWING A RIGHT TURN EXIT ONLY ON BOTH THE, I'M GONNA CALL IT RED LINE AND BLUE LINE. WILL THAT BE MANDATED OR IS THAT, OR OR IS THAT THEIR SUGGESTION OR HOW WILL THAT BE DEALT WITH AT THOSE? 'CAUSE THERE'S TWO, I DROVE, I DROVE THIS, UM, LATE YESTERDAY AND, AND YOU CAN MAKE LEFT TURNS OUT OF BOTH OF THOSE. SO WILL THAT BE, WILL THAT BE BLOCKED OR WILL IT, BECAUSE THERE'S NO CONTROL THERE AS, AS I SAW. SO THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE MANDATED THROUGH THEIR CONTROL, UH, OF THAT, OF THAT CIRCULATION. UH, THEY WILL HAVE STAFF MEMBERS OUT THERE, UH, MANAGING AND CONTROLLING THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC THROUGH THOSE QUEUE, UH, THROUGH THOSE QUEUE LANES AND HOW THEY EXIT THE PROPERTY AS WELL. BUT, OKAY. SO CONCERN THERE IS, IS WHAT I, WHAT I'VE UNDERSTOOD IN THE PAST, AND PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IS THAT ONLY LICENSED POLICE OFFICERS CAN CONTROL WHEN IT'S ACTUALLY ON A CITY STREET. SO WILL THEY BE, WILL THEY BE HIRING OUR POLICE OFFICERS TO COME OUT AND CONTROL THAT OR WHAT, WHAT IS THE, WHAT IS THE UNDERSTANDING AND OR EXPECTATION ON THAT? THAT IS PROBABLY A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT THEMSELVES. OKAY. UH, RIGHT NOW I DO AND I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO ASK. I JUST, I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS ALREADY, Y'ALL HAD ALREADY ADDRESSED AND NO. CORRECT. NOW THIS, UH, RICHARDSON COLLEGE IS NOT A STREET, IT IS REALLY A DRIVE AISLE. SO THAT IS ALL RIGHT. BUT IF YOU CONTINUE THE BLUE LINE ON OUT TO ABRAMS CORRECT, THEN YOU CAN TURN LEFT OR RIGHT OUT OF THERE FROM WHAT I SAW IF I UNDERSTOOD THERE, THERE THAT, THAT EXIT UP THERE. BUT YOU DEF FOR SURE YOU CAN DOWN ON THE KIND OF WHERE THE YEAH, RIGHT THERE. THANK YOU. YEAH. AT ABRAMS. RIGHT. OKAY. WELL I CAN SAVE THAT FOR THE APPLICANT. THANK YOU, SIR. I APPRECIATE IT. AS FAR AS THE TRAFFIC COUNT FOR ABRAMS, WE'RE AT, UH, 10,300, UH, VEHICLES PER DAY ON ALL LANES NORTHBOUND AND SOUTHBOUND. [00:40:01] UM, THEY DID PROVIDE A TRA A TRIP GENERATION MEMO AND IT DIDN'T WARRANT A, A, A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, BUT WE DID WORK WITH THEM ON THIS, ON THIS TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT AND QUEING STUFF. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. . MR. CORCORAN, UH, THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. SAM, I WAS GONNA ASK ABOUT SOME OF THE SURROUNDING LAND AND THE PROPERTIES. ARE THERE ANY DEVELOPMENTS OR NEW COS THAT HAVE BEEN ISSUED OR ANY SORT OF FORWARD-LOOKING DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD CHANGE THE LANDSCAPE OF THIS AREA AROUND, UM, THE PRESENT DAY CHURCH? ANYTHING? YOU KNOW, IN THE PAST? YEAH, NO, GO AHEAD. UH, NO, NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. I MEAN, THERE IS A CHURCH, UH, OR A RELIGIOUS INSTITUTION DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH OF IT. THERE'S AN OFFICE BUILDING TO THE, UH, EAST, UH, THERE IS, UH, A GASOLINE SERVICE STATION, BUT IT'S IN THE CITY OF DALLAS AT THE HARD CORNER. AND THEN YOU HAVE UNDEVELOPED PROPERTY TO THE WEST, WHICH IS, I BELIEVE, OWNED BY THE, UH, RICHARDSON INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT. I SEE. HAS RISD GIVEN ANY INDICATION OF WHAT THEY WOULD DO WITH THAT PROPERTY IN THE FUTURE? NO, SIR. THEY HAVE NO. OKAY. OKAY. THAT TAKES AWAY A COUPLE OF MY, COUPLE OF MY QUESTIONS. AND THEN THIS JUST REMIND ME, THE AREA THAT THIS IS LOCATED IN, THIS ISN'T PART OF ANY SORT OF SPECIAL STUDY DISTRICT WE HAVE OR ANY SORT OF SPECIAL LONG TERM NO SIR. PLAN IN THE CITY. OKAY. UM, AND THEN WHEN A, WHEN A SCHOOL COMES IN, A PRIVATE SCHOOL COMES IN, I KNOW THAT, I KNOW THAT ACROSS SOME OF OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, LIKE THE GAS STATIONS, THEY CAN'T SERVE ALCOHOL. AND THERE'S CERTAIN BUSINESSES THAT MIGHT BE NORMALLY ALLOWED IN A RETAIL AREA THAT AREN'T ALLOWED WITHIN A CERTAIN NUMBER OF FEET OF A SCHOOL. DOES THAT APPLY TO PRIVATE SCHOOLS AS WELL? I BELIEVE IT, YOU KNOW, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I DON'T KNOW. I, I DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T LOOK AT WHETHER OR NOT THE ABILITY TO SELL ALCOHOL W WOULD, WOULD IMPEDE THIS PROPERTY. I'M NOT NECESSARILY, I'M JUST SAYING ALCOHOL, BUT I KNOW THERE'S, I'M SURE THERE'S OTHER BUSINESSES OR YEAH. OR BEER MORE MAYBE ALL THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTING. WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT, THAT SOMEONE COULD LOOK UP FOR ME? YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. AWESOME. UM, AND THEN FINALLY, MY, MY LAST QUESTION FOR YOU, UM, YOU KNOW, SO JUST, JUST SO I CAN ALSO UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE IMPLICATIONS FINANCIALLY, UH, YOU KNOW, CHURCHES VERY NOTORIOUSLY DON'T PAY PROPERTY TAX TO, UH, NON-PUBLIC SCHOOLS. DO THOSE, THOSE PAY JUST A FULL AMOUNT OF TAX, RIGHT? OR WHAT? FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, UH, IS THAT NO, THEY DON'T. OKAY. YEAH. I'M SORRY. I SHOULD PROBABLY KNOW THAT, BUT NO, NO, IT'S, IT'S, IT IS, IT'S, THAT'S, NO, IT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION. BUT WE CONFIRMED EARLIER THAT THIS SCHOOL AS, AS PROPOSED WOULD NOT, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH. OKAY. THAT'S CORRECT. ALRIGHT. GOOD TO KNOW. THANK YOU. I'LL HAVE SAM. OKAY. MR. SAM CHU. UH, THANK YOU MR. MAYOR, COULD YOU, I KNOW I MISSED IT. I I JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND THE TRAFFIC, UH, STUDY PORTION. UH, IT'S SO CLOSE TO THE INTERSECTION OF WALNUT AND ABRAM AND, UH, RIGHT NEXT TO THE GAS STATION, THE ENTRANCE. SO, UH, COULD YOU REPEAT, UH, SOMETHING ABOUT THE TRAFFIC STUDY? WHAT IT SAYS THAT IF IT'S GONNA BACK UP ANYTHING OR, UH, ANYTHING HAS BEEN DONE? WE INITIALLY START WITH A TRIP GENERATION MEMO THAT ESSENTIALLY ASSESSES A NUMBER OF TRIPS BASED ON THE LAND USE. SO BASED ON THE LAND USE, IT'S PRETTY COMPARABLE TO WHAT, TO HOW THAT THAT SITE CURRENTLY FUNCTIONS. UH, WHICH DIDN'T GENERATE A LOT OF TRAFFIC, UH, BECAUSE TRAFFIC FOR A FACILITY LIKE THIS WOULD, WOULD TYPICALLY OCCUR DURING THEIR DAYS OF WORSHIP, UH, THE SCHOOL IN THE FACT THAT IT IS, ALTHOUGH THEY ARE REQUESTING 748 STUDENTS, IT'S REALLY ONLY HALF OF 'EM, WHICH IS AT 3 74. SO IT KIND OF CUTS THAT TRAFFIC, UH, THAT TRIP GENERATION IN HALF. UH, SO THAT DIDN'T PROMPT A, A TRUE TRIP, UH, A, A TRUE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS. OKAY. AND IT'S, AND IT'S DURING THE TRIP, UH, THE, UH, THE TIA OR THE, OR THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS MM-HMM. THAT WE START TO ASSESS, UH, TRAFFIC THAT IS, THAT IS AT THE, AT THE NEAREST INTERSECTION. AND THAT'S WHERE WE START LOOKING AT TIME DELAYS AND, AND, AND, AND CAPACITY OF, OF SIGNALS AND, AND THEIR INTERSECTIONS. YEAH. CURRENTLY, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE ABRAM AND 60 35, THAT AREA IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION. I, I USED TO DRIVE THIS, UH, A LOT, BUT BECAUSE OF THE CONSTRUCTION, I, I STOPPED GOING THROUGH THIS WAY. UH, BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, PREVIOUSLY THE, UH, THE CHARGE OR THE WORSHIP PLACE [00:45:01] DID NOT HAVE THAT MUCH TRAFFIC IN IT ANYWAY, BUT CONDITION OR CHANGE WITH THAT 300 PLUS CLOSE TO 400, THEY WOULD BE COMING SAME TIME, UH, I THINK DROP OFF, PICK UP. SO, UH, SO, UH, CAN YOU GO TO THE, THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE MAP THAT YOU HAVE THAT DROP OFF AND QUEUING ALL THIS? YES, SIR. IS THERE ANY TRAFFIC COUNT THAT HOW MANY CAN BE ON THE PROPERTY AT A TIME? LIKE WHEN THEY, UH, I KNOW YOU DID THAT. I JUST DON'T WANTED TO, UH, HEAR THAT AGAIN. UH, HOW MANY COULD BE INSIDE WHEN THEY DROP OFF? OKAY. IT'S NOT, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO GO TO THE STREET. UH, EVEN THOUGH I HAVE SEEN SOME OF THE STUDY IN THE PAST FOR OTHER SCHOOL, IT END UP GOING TO THE STREET SOMETIMES, SO SURE. WE JUST DON'T WANNA MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE. SO THE, THE ACTUAL QUEUING LANES OPERATE IN, IN A COUNTERCLOCKWISE. SO, UH, SO FOR THE ELEMENTARY H UH, STUDENTS, THERE'S APPROXIMATELY 1,643 LINEAL FEET OF QUEUING SPACE, WHICH WOULD ACCOMMODATE 75 VEHICLES. AND THAT'S BASED ON THE LINEAL FOOTAGE DIVIDED BY 22, WHICH IS TYPICAL PARKING SPACE FOR A, UH, FOR A, UH, PARALLEL PARKING SPACE. SO FOR THE MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS, THEY'RE PROVIDING 1,155 LINEAL FEET OF QUEUING SPACE. AND THAT QUEUING SPACE, UH, FOR BOTH, UH, 60 SOMETHING, UH, CATEGORIES IS REALLY FROM THE POINT OF ENTRY AS A MANEUVER THEIR WAY THROUGH THE SITE UP TO ABOUT THIS POINT HERE. SO IN THE MIDDLE SCHOOL HIGH SCHOOL RANGE, UH, THERE'S, UH, 1,155 LINEAL FEET, WHICH, WHICH COULD ACCOMMODATE APPROXIMATELY 53 VEHICLES. NOW THIS IS GONNA HAPPEN THE SAME TIME. THEY'RE STAGGERED, UH, STAGGERED. OKAY. YEAH, THEY'RE STAGGERED. UH, PICK UP AND DROP OFF TIMES. OKAY. I KNOW YOU HAVE THAT NUMBER. THERE'S 75 53. THAT'S WHAT IT CAME FROM. RIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THE ONE THING TO REMEMBER ALSO, IT'S NOT ALL 743 STUDENTS OR 748 STUDENTS, IT'S HALF OF THAT A DAY, SO IT'S 374 STUDENTS. OKAY. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. MR. DORIAN, THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU SOUND. I APPRECIATE THE UPDATE. I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS ON, MAINLY FOR ANYONE LISTENING ON ANY NOISE CONTROL. I WAS JUST GOING THROUGH THE RENDERINGS AND IT APPEARS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO UPGRADE, UH, THE DRIVE-IN, UH, WITH SOME TYPE OF ENTRY FEATURES AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE PUTTING A WROUGHT IRON FENCE AROUND THE PROPERTY AS WELL. YES, SIR. THAT IS CORRECT. AND I ALSO NOTICED THAT, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A, IS THAT A SOCCER FIELD OR NO, LET'S GO TO THE OVERALL, I BELIEVE, ARE YOU SPEAKING ABOUT THIS AREA HERE? I'M JUST GOING BACK TO THE SCHEMATIC AREA. YES, I BELIEVE I, I SAW THAT THERE WAS SOME OUTDOOR ACTIVITY ACTIVITIES. OF COURSE HERE IT IS, UH, IT'S ON, AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT SLIDE THAT IS, BUT 26, SLIDE 26. NOW THIS SIDE OF THE FACILITY, AND I'M FAMILIAR WITH THIS FACILITY, THERE'S TWO NEIGHBORHOODS. THEY'RE RIGHT NEXT TO THIS. I MEAN, THERE IS A BUILDING THAT IS, THAT SEPARATES THE TWO NEIGHBORHOODS YES. AND THE CORNER. BUT I SEE THERE'S AN OUTDOOR, UH, SOCCER, I GUESS THAT'S A SOCCER FIELD. AND IT LOOKS LIKE SOME OUTDOOR PICNIC TABLES. AND, UM, HAVE THEY LOOKED AT WHAT TYPE OF NOISE CONTROL THIS WILL HAVE AND WHETHER IT BE A LOT OF ACTIVITY JUST, I GUESS JUST THROUGHOUT THE DAY? WELL, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT AREA 'CAUSE I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA THAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING, BUT THEY DO HAVE, UH, I'M SORRY. YEAH, IT MAY BE THIS ONE. SO THEY DO HAVE TWO OUTDOOR PLAY AREAS, AND THEN THEY HAVE ANOTHER OUTDOOR, BUT IT'S IN, IT'S IN, IT'S SURROUNDED BY, UH, THE, THE FUTURE BUILDING TWO, WHICH IS A STORM SHELTER. SO THAT'S ANOTHER OUTDOOR PLAY AREA. AND THEN THEY HAVE A GYMNASIUM INSIDE, INSIDE THE STRUCTURE ROUGHLY IN THIS LOCATION. ALL THESE OTHER AREAS ARE OPEN SPACE. MM-HMM. , UH, YOU REALLY DON'T GET INTO AN IMPROVED, LET'S SAY, OUTDOOR PLAY AREA UNTIL YOU GET INTO A PORTION THAT IS WITHIN THE CITY OF DALLAS, WHICH IS THIS AREA HERE. MM-HMM. . YEAH. ON THAT DALLAS SIDE'S CLOSER TO THE WALL, THAT SIDE, THAT STREET. I'M FAMILIAR WITH THOSE PROPERTY, BUT OKAY. THE STREET RIGHT THERE ON THE SIDE THAT LEADS TO AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, WHICH IS RIGHT ACROSS THAT ALLEYWAY, WE'LL CALL IT, IT'S ACTUALLY A, A SMALL, UH, FEEDER, UH, STREET. AND THEN RIGHT DOWN TO THE RIGHT HAND SIDE UP THERE, THAT'S WHERE YOU CAN GO IN ANOTHER ENTRY INTO, UH, RICHLAND OAKS. THERE'S [00:50:01] RICHLAND OAKS. OKAY. AND THERE'S RICHLAND PARKS, WHICH YOU CAN CYCLE THROUGH THERE. SO I'M JUST TRYING TO GET AN IDEA OF WHAT TYPE OF TRAFFIC STUDY OR WHAT TYPE OF INFLUXED UH, TRAFFICKING WILL RUN THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD UP THROUGH THE ALLEYS INTO RICHLAND PARK, RICHLAND OAKS. AND THEN ALSO, LIKE I SAID, THE BACKSIDE OF THAT HAS ALL THE OUTDOOR FACILITIES. SO THERE'LL BE SOME NOISE DURING THE DAY, I PRESUME, UNLESS THIS IS ALSO GONNA BE USED IN THE EVENING FOR OTHER ACTIVITIES. I BELIEVE IT'S THE DAYTIME FUNCTION. OKAY. SO THIS WON'T, SO AFTER, WHAT IS IT? UH, 3 33 45. IT'S PRETTY WELL SHUT DOWN. THERE'S NO ACTIVITY ON THE, ON THE TIME. UH, I BELIEVE IT MAY BE A LITTLE BIT PAST FOUR. UH, YEAH, BECAUSE THE LAST DROP, UH, PICKUP PERIOD ENDS AT FOUR O'CLOCK. OKAY. IS THE FACILITY GOING TO BE USED FOR ANYTHING ELSE OTHER THAN JUST THE, UH, DURING THE DAYTIME PERIOD FOR, FOR SCHOOL? I MEAN, IS THERE ANY OTHER, YOU KNOW, LIKE OUTDOOR EVENTS, THERE'S A SOCCER FIELD, SO IT, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE USED AFTER HOURS AS WELL, JUST TRYING TO GET A GENERATION, AN IDEA OF, OF THAT THE TRAFFICKING AND THE NOISE CONTROL FOR THAT AREA. WELL, MY UNDERSTANDING IS, IS THIS WILL FUNCTION AS A THIRD CAMPUS. UH, THEY HAVE TWO OTHER CAMPUSES, ONE IN FLOWER MOUND AND THE OTHER ONE IN PLANO. BUT THIS WOULD BE THEIR THIRD, THEIR THIRD CAMPUS. THEY'RE ACTUALLY MOVING FROM THEIR DALLAS LOCATION TO THIS, TO THIS PROPOSED LOCATION. OKAY. UM, AND I GUESS MY LAST QUESTION IS, I, I, I WAS LOOKING AT THE RENDERINGS AND I KNOW THESE ARE SCHEMATICS AND, AND THIS PROPERTY IS GOING TO HAVE SOME UPDATES. UH, IS THAT GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA COME BACK AROUND TO COUNCIL FOR THE, UH, NO, SIR. THE ARCHITECTURALS, THEY WILL SUBMIT FOR A, A, UH, DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPLICATION AND AS PART OF THAT APPLICATION WILL INCLUDE A, A, AN AMENDED SITE PLAN, UH, LANDSCAPE PLAN AND BUILDING ELEVATION THAT WILL BE REVIEWED BY STAFF BASED ON THE, UH, CURRENT ZONING ON THE PROPERTY AND WILL BE, UH, APPROVED BY, BY STAFF. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU, SAM. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN DORIAN. MR. BARRIOS. THANK YOU MAYOR SAM, THIS IS CURRENTLY A CHURCH, CORRECT? YES SIR. WHAT'S IT CURRENTLY PARKED FOR? WHAT'S THE PARKING SPOTS AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW? THE TOTAL NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES ON SITE IS 367 PARKING SPACES. DO WE KNOW NOW THE PARKING RATIO FOR, FOR A RELIGIOUS INSTITUTION IS ONE SPACE PER THREE SEATS WITHIN THE SANCTUARY. AND THERE ARE HOW MANY PARKING SPOTS? 367. SO THAT MEANS THAT THE SANCTUARY FITS OVER 900 PEOPLE. I WOULD, THAT'S PRETTY CLOSE, ABOUT NINE 50 OR SO, JUST OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. OKAY. SO WE CURRENTLY HAVE, LET'S SAY, 900 PEOPLE THAT IT'S ALLOWED FOR AND WE'RE LOOKING AT ALLOWING IT FOR 400. UM, AND I REMEMBER READING IN THE NOTES THAT WAS DUE TO OBVIOUSLY UPDATED CODES REQUIRES, UM, THE TORNADO SHELTER. AND SO CURRENTLY IF WE ALLOW 400, WHAT'S THE CURRENT TORNADO SHELTERING RIGHT NOW? WHAT, WHAT'S DO WE KNOW? MORE THAN LIKELY WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T PARK AT TORNADO SHELTER. IT WOULD BE PART OF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR THE CHURCH. NOW WE DO NOT HAVE A PARKING RATIO FOR A SCHOOL. I'M SORRY, NOT, NOT THE PARKING, BUT LIKE I KNOW THE NEW UPDATED CODES REQUIRE, YOU KNOW, X AMOUNT OF FEET PER PERSON FOR TORNADO. SO WHAT IS THAT CURRENT ALLOTMENT, I GUESS, WHAT'S THE MAX CAPACITY OF THAT TORNADO SHELTER? THAT I DON'T KNOW, BUT I DO KNOW THAT BUILDING INSPECTIONS HAS LOOKED AT THIS AT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE AND IT DOES COMPLY WITH THE BUILDING CODE. OKAY. SO 400 WE'RE GOOD, OR FOUR 50 ONCE YOU ADD STAFF? YES SIR. OKAY. UM, ON THAT SLIDE EIGHT, UH, I KNOW WHERE IT SHOWS THE TRAFFIC ROUTES. I, I'LL BE HONEST, I DON'T, I'M NOT REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE CARS GOING AROUND THE BUILDING. UM, THIS SEEMS, THIS APPEARS TO BE ABOUT THE SIZE OF WHAT WE MAY HAVE IN THE COMMUNITY NOW AS AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND IT'S NEAR TWO MAJOR ROADS. SO I'M NOT TOO WORRIED ABOUT THE ROADS BEING ABLE TO HANDLE THAT TRAFFIC. MY CONCERN THERE IS THAT ABRAM SOUTHBOUND, IF SOMEBODY COMING SOUTHBOUND IS TRYING TO MAKE A LEFT INTO THERE OR SOMEBODY COMING OUTTA THE SCHOOL WOULD TRY TO MAKE A LEFT INTO ABRAM SOUTHBOUND, I THINK CROSSING THAT MEDIAN WOULD BE THE ONLY CONCERN THERE, UM, FOR ME. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO THERE. 'CAUSE LIKE, I DON'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS HUTCH AND WRITER OR CORCORAN MENTIONED. YOU KNOW, AND THIS IS PROBABLY A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT LATER, BUT YOU KNOW, WERE THERE PLANS TO HIRE PD? 'CAUSE PD HAS TO DO THAT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME WE'RE KIND OF, UM, [00:55:01] PDS BEEN BUSY 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, WE ARE DOWN A FEW OFFICERS. UM, AND WHETHER THEY'LL HAVE THAT KIND OF, IF WE HAVE THAT KIND OF STAFF TO DO IT. BUT GOING BACK TO SLIDE NINE, UM, WHEN WE CONSIDER, WHEN YOU'RE ASKING FOR ACTION, UH, AS PRESENTED, IS THE AS PRESENTED, HAVE THOSE TWO CONDITIONS THAT CPC RECOMMENDED OR IS THAT APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS THAT WE WOULD, UH, NEED THOSE FOR THOSE TWO CONDITIONS AS PRESENTED? HAS THOSE TWO CONDITIONS THAT HAVE BEEN, THAT WERE AMENDED OR RECOMMENDED FOR, UH, AN AMENDMENT. OKAY. FOR OUR PLANNING COMMISSION. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE. THANK YOU, SAM. THANK YOU MR. CHU. UH, THANK YOU MR. MAYOR, I JUST WANTED TO ASK A COUPLE MORE QUESTION ABOUT THE ZONING. UH, CURRENTLY IT'S ZONE AS LR M TWO. THAT'S CORRECT. I MEAN, I, I WAS READING THAT, UH, DESCRIPTION. COULD YOU, YOU KNOW, JUST, UH, SAY A FEW THINGS ABOUT THAT? WHAT ELSE COULD, UH, WHAT COULD BE BUILT THERE WITH THAT CODE? UH, I READ THAT, BUT JUST, I JUST WANTED TO HEAR FROM YOU SO THAT EVERYBODY ELSE CAN MISS HERE. SURE. YEAH. THE LOCAL RETAIL DISTRICT ALLOWS, IN GENERAL RETAIL USES. UH, IT ALSO ALLOWS OFFICE USES, UH, IT ALLOWS OTHER USES BY BE A SPECIAL PERMIT REQUEST SUCH AS A PRIVATE SCHOOL. UH, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LAUNDRY LIST OF THE TYPES OF RETAIL, BUT IT WOULD ALLOW RETAIL. OKAY, SO THAT INCLUDES, I SEE THAT MINOR PRINTING PLACE. YES, SIR. UH, THE REGION, I'M, I'M ASKING YOU THIS, THAT, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT RICHLAND COLLEGE, WHICH IS NOW DALLAS COLLEGE, UH, IS EXPANDING HUGE. AND I KNOW THERE IS ANOTHER PROPOSED, UH, FUTURE HEALTH CENTER LIKE, UH, MEDICAL COMING UP THERE IN THAT CORNER, THE PARKLAND, UH, THAT'S GONNA BE HUGE. AND THERE IS ONLY SMALL AREA. THERE'S RETAIL AND SHOPPING IN THAT CORNER. UH, SO IT WOULD BE NICE IF THERE WAS MORE RETAIL IN THAT AREA FOR THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. UH, THAT WOULD BE PROBABLY MORE APPROPRIATE. UM, I MEAN THAT'S THE WISHFUL THINKING, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE CHARGE RIGHT NOW. BUT IN THE FUTURE, THAT AREA COULD HANDLE A LOT MORE RE RETAIL, UH, THE CORNER COFFEE SHOP, UH, SOME OTHER THINGS FOR THE STUDENT AND FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD ALSO. SO I'M JUST THINKING OUT OF THE BOX THAT WHAT ELSE COULD BE THERE AND WHAT CAN WE LOOK AND WHAT SHOULD WE THINK? ANYWAY, THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED, WANTED TO UNDERSTAND. MM-HMM, . YEAH. THANK YOU. JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, UH, THIS AREA HERE, THAT'S, THAT'S IN A BLUE BOX RIGHT HERE. THAT IS ALL ZONED LRM TWO LOCAL RETAIL. YES. THANK YOU. MAYOR PRO TIM, UH, SAM, COUPLE THINGS. I I, I'VE GOT A, I'M KIND OF LIKE SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT HAVE SHOWN A LITTLE BIT OF HESITANCE ON THIS AND I GUESS I WOULD LIKE A LITTLE CLARIFICATION. THERE ARE ROTATING DAYS WHEN DIFFERENT STUDENTS WOULD COME, CORRECT? YES SIR. THAT IS, SO THE 7 48, SO THAT SEEMS QUITE, IF YOU'RE A YOUNG CHILD THAT DOESN'T LIKE GOING TO SCHOOL, YOU MAY FIND THIS QUITE APPEALING IF YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK. SO I CAN SEE THEM HAVING, USING THIS TO GAIN ATTENDANCE. BUT WE'RE SAYING IT'S CAPPED AT 7 48 OR WE'RE SAYING IT COULD HAVE NO MORE THAN 400 PER DAY. IT WOULD BE CAPPED AT NO MORE THAN 400 PER DAY. AND WHAT THEY DO IS THEY FOLLOW A COLLEGE, UH, TYPE OF CURRICULUM WHERE YOU, WHERE YOU, WHERE YOU ATTEND EVERY OTHER DAY. UH, SO WHEN THEY HAVE SAM, OKAY, NOW WHEN THEY HAVE SPECIAL THINGS, WHAT ABOUT PTA OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? THEY BRING THEM BACK. NOW YOU GOT EVERYONE COMING ON CAMPUS, SO NOW YOU GOT 800 KIDS ON CAMPUS 'CAUSE THEY'RE DOING MEET THE TEACHER, MEET THE PROFESSOR OR WHATEVER, I GUESS. OKAY. UM, SO THE TRUE NUMBERS I'M CONCERNED ABOUT, I'M KINDA LIKE MR. SHAM SCHELL. I THINK THE FACT THAT IT'S LOCAL RETAIL, IT COULD BE USED AT SOMETHING THAT WOULD TRULY BENEFIT THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND I KNOW THAT RESTAURANTS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, RICHLAND PARK HAS BEEN ASKING FOR THOSE AND I SIT DOWNS AND SO FORTH. SO THERE'S A LOT OF LAND THERE AND I'M WONDERING IF WE MIGHT DO SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT BETTER. SO I'M THINKING OUT LOUD AND I KNOW WE CAN BRING THE APPLICANT UP HERE IN JUST A MINUTE. UM, I DON'T THINK OUR ISD IS REAL EXCITED ABOUT THIS. I HAVEN'T REALLY REACHED OUT AND TALKED TO A LOT OF PEOPLE OVER THERE, BUT HAVE WE, DID WE TALK TO OUR SCHOOL DISTRICTS AT ALL? HAVE THEY EXPRESSED ANY CONCERN? SAM, WE HAVE NOT HEARD ANY CONCERNS FROM RSD. WE DID SEND OUT LETTERS, UH, TO THOSE OWNERS OF PROPERTY WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SITE. UH, I CAN CHECK OUR LIST REAL QUICK OF THOSE THAT RECEIVED THOSE LETTERS. UH, AND [01:00:01] RSD WAS ONE OF THOSE RECIPIENTS. OKAY. THANK YOU MR. CORCORAN. SORRY, MR. MAYOR. I HAVE ONE, ONE FOLLOW UP QUESTION ON THE, UH, RSD OWNED PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET, JUST PD 4 1 4 1. IF, IF THAT PROPERTY WERE TO TURN FOR ANY, ANY REASON, WHAT DOES, WHAT ARE THE CURRENT ALLOWED USES FOR THAT PROPERTY? THAT PROPERTY CAME IN, UH, AS ONE ZONING REQUEST, ESSENTIALLY TOOK CARE OF ALL THIS. OKAY. SINCE THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO WITH THIS BALANCE OF IT, I BELIEVE THE UNDERLYING ZONING ON THAT PROPERTY IS, YOU KNOW WHAT, LET ME TAKE A LOOK AT IT. OKAY. BECAUSE IT, IT, THEY MAY HAVE CHANGED THE ZONING ON IT. I SEE. BUT THEY DID PROVIDE A VERY SPECIFIC TYPE OF LAND USE, WHICH IS THEIR SERVICE CENTER HERE. OKAY. AND THE OTHER, THEY DIDN'T QUITE KNOW WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO WITH IT AT THAT TIME. YOU KNOW, JUST, JUST 'CAUSE THE OVERRIDING THEME THAT I'M, I'M GETTING TO IS THAT THERE ARE SOME UNKNOWNS AS FAR AS WHAT THE FUTURE COULD HOLD FOR THIS AREA. AND SO UNDERSTANDING IN MY MIND, WHAT SOME OF THE TURNOVER AND THE POSSIBILITIES COULD BE IS REALLY IMPORTANT, WHICH IS WHY I ASK. WELL, MR. CORCORAN, I THINK YOU HAVE GOT A GREAT POINT, AND SAM, THAT'S GOING DOWN THE TRAIN OF THOUGHT THAT JOE HAS. IF YOU CANNOT SELL ALCOHOL OR YOU CAN'T SELL BEER, THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS THAT CANNOT BE THEN IN THAT AREA FOR THE FUTURE. WE'VE JUST HANDCUFFED THE OWNERS, HANDCUFFED THE FUTURE THINGS THAT MIGHT BE CONSIDERING GOING IN THAT AREA. IS THAT A CORRECT STATEMENT? WELL, THE WAY I UNDERSTAND THAT REGULATION IS THAT IF THAT FACILITY ALREADY HAS A LICENSE FROM TABC, UH, AND MORE THAN LIKELY, THEY PROBABLY DO, IF THEY DO SELL IT, UH, THAT HAS THE EXISTENCE OF THAT CHURCH HAS NOT, HAS NOT HAMPERED IT. NOW, IF, IF THE OPPOSITE OCCURRED, IF THE CHURCH WAS HERE OR THE SCHOOL WAS HERE BEFORE THAT FACILITY CAME IN, THEN THEY, AND IT MET THE DISTANCE, OR IT MET THE DISTANCE CRITERIA, THEN IT COULD NOT ISSUE A LICENSE TO THAT FACILITY. SO THE FACT THAT IT, IT IT'S ALREADY EXISTING IS A MOOT POINT AT THIS POINT. YEAH. UH, MAYOR, I THINK SAM'S CORRECT. I THINK THAT TO YOUR POINT THOUGH, I THINK THAT WHETHER IT BE THE CHARGE OR A SCHOOL, UM, ANY DEVELOP, ANY BUSINESS WITHIN 300 FEET OF BOTH PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SCHOOL OR THE CHURCH MOVING FORWARD, WOULD, UH, NOT BE ABLE TO SELL ALCOHOL. UM, AND CHARLES HAS GOT SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. OKAY. WITH RESPECT TO THE PRIVATE SCHOOL AND SOME, MAYBE SOME LATITUDES. RIGHT. SO THE, THE QUESTION WAS, UH, ABOUT THE SALE OF ALCOHOL, UH, BEVERAGES, UH, ADJACENT TO, TO SCHOOLS, AND IF IT APPLIED TO PRIVATE SCHOOLS, IT DOES. THE, THE 300 FOOT REQUIREMENT APPLIES TO CHURCHES, UH, PUBLIC OR PRIVATE SCHOOLS, OR A PUBLIC HOSPITAL. UH, THERE IS A SPECIAL PROVISION THAT, UM, IF THE GOVERNING BODY OF A PRIVATE SCHOOL, UH, REQUESTS AND THE COUNCIL PASSES A RESOLUTION THAT CAN BE EXTENDED FROM 300 FEET TO A THOUSAND FEET. OKAY. MR. DORIA, THANK YOU. I JUST, I JUST WANT TO ADD ONE MORE THING AND THAT, AND, AND I'M, AND, UH, COUNCILMAN COCHRAN, I BELIEVE I THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP. I'VE KIND OF BEEN THINKING ABOUT THAT SAME DIRECTION. YOU KNOW, RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET ON THE DALLAS SIDE, THERE IS A, ANOTHER STRIP CENTER THAT HAS LIKE A SUBWAY AND, UH, KIND OF A SEVERAL DIFFERENT TYPES OF ESTABLISHMENTS. AND I THINK THERE'S EVEN A RESTAURANT THERE, A COUPLE, COUPLE OF, UH, SMALL RESTAURANTS, DONUT SHOP AND SOME OTHER THINGS. BUT THAT AREA HAS POTENTIAL, UM, FOR A, UH, YOU KNOW, AN ELEVATED APPROACH TO WHAT HAVE, WHATEVER DEVELOPMENT THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, WHATEVER FUTURE DEVELOPMENT, UH, FOR THE LAND ACROSS THE STREET, AND THEN ALSO MAYBE REDEVELOPMENT ON THE DALLAS SIDE. AND OF COURSE, THIS, THIS IS QUITE A BIT OF, UH, SPACE, UM, TO BE UTILIZED. SO I, I KIND OF LEANING THAT DIRECTION AS WELL ABOUT HOW DOES THIS AREA HERE GET REDEVELOPED, UM, AS AN ENTRY, A MAIN ENTRY FROM, UH, ENTERING OFF OF 6 35 INTO DALLAS SLASH RICHARDSON. AND I CERTAINLY WOULDN'T WANT TO HINDER ANY DEVELOPMENT, SUCH AS BRINGING RETAIL RESTAURANTS AND SOME OTHER THINGS THAT ARE, THAT I KNOW THAT, THAT THE COMMUNITY THERE HAS BEEN ASKING FOR, FOR QUITE SOME TIME. SO I, I JUST WANNA MAKE THAT COMMENT. UM, THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU, MR. BARRIOS. THANK YOU. UM, CHARLES, CAN I ASK FOR CLARIFICATION ON WHAT YOU JUST TRIED, THAT 300 FEET, IS THAT FROM PROPERTY LINE OR FROM, UH, ENTRY POINT TO THE BUILDING? UH, THAT IS TYPICALLY MEASURED FROM ENTRY POINT TO ENTRY POINT. SO, SO [01:05:01] REALITY IS, AND THAT, THAT THIS BUILDING IS OFFSET QUITE A BIT OFF OF ABRAMS. IT'S DEFINITELY PAST, I'M PRETTY SURE IT'S AT 300 IF NOT MORE, OFF OF WALNUT. THE PROPERTY WE'RE LOOKING AT, I'M TALKING ABOUT IS THIS PROPERTY THAT RSD OWNS. RSDI KNOW, AS WE ALL KNOW, LIKE MANY DISTRICTS IN THE STATE IS FACING CLOSURES DUE TO, DUE TO FUNDING, THEY'VE, THEY HAVEN'T ANNOUNCED THEY'RE GONNA SELL THIS PIECE OFF, BUT I DO KNOW THEY, THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT OTHER PIECES. I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED IN THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO THEY DECIDE TO SELL THIS ONE OFF TOO, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE TRYING TO BRING IN SOME MONEY JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER DISTRICT IS. SO REALLY, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS WHOLE THING, IF SOMETHING WERE TO GET BUILT IN THAT PD 41, 41, THEN YOU HAVE SOME, ADD SOME PARKING THAT'S EASILY GONNA BE 300 FEET. SO THAT'S, UNLESS THIS SCHOOL IS PLANNING ON EXTENDING THIS UP TO ABRAMS, WHICH DOESN'T APPEAR, IT IS, I DON'T THINK 300 FEET REALLY APPLIES HERE. UM, JUST A CLARIFICATION, WHEN YOU SAY ENTRY POINT, IS THAT NOT ENTRY INTO THE PARKING LOT? NOT ENTRY INTO THE BUILDING? I'M SORRY, I'M CONFUSED NOW. IT, IT'S, IT'S FRONT DOOR TO FRONT DOOR, UH, ALONG THE RIGHT OF WAY. MM-HMM. SO IF IT'S A, IF IT'S AN ADJACENT PROPERTY, YOU MEASURE FROM THE FRONT DOOR TO THE RIGHT OF WAY DOWN THE RIGHT OF WAY, AND THEN BACK TO THE FRONT DOOR. THAT'S EASY. THAT'S EASY. YEAH. BUT WHAT WAS THE, THE POINT ABOUT THE THOUSAND FEET? WHO CAN REQUEST THAT? THE, THE GOVERNING BODY OF THE SCHOOL CAN REQUEST IT, AND THEN THE COUNCIL, UH, WOULD DECIDE IF THEY WANTED TO PASS THE RESOLUTION. OKAY. UH, TO, TO EXTEND, I JUST WANTED CLARIFICATION. THANK YOU. OKAY, COUNSEL. THANK YOU. NO MORE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. WE'D ASK THE APPLICANT IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS US TO PLEASE COME FORWARD. OH, THERE, IT'S, THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JEFF JOHNSON. I'M THE PRESIDENT AND CEO OF DALE ACADEMY. AND WE ARE A, A THREE CAMPUS SCHOOL WITH ABOUT 1,750 STUDENTS THAT ATTEND. IT'S A CHRISTIAN CLASSICAL COLLABORATIVE OR UNIVERSITY MODEL. SO THE STUDENT ISN'T THERE EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK, GENERALLY TWO OR THREE DAYS A WEEK. UM, AND AS WAS STATED EARLIER, WE HAVE CAMPUS AND FLOWER MOUND IN, UH, IN PLANO, AND THEN THIS CAMPUS THAT WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO MOVING TO RICHARDSON. AND WE THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING OUR REQUEST. WE HAVE A HEADMASTER AT EACH CAMPUS AND, UH, REVEREND JORDAN. JOHN JORDAN IS OUR HEADMASTER AT THIS CAMPUS. AGAIN, MY NAME IS JOHN JORDAN, HEADMASTER OF THE DALLAS CAMPUS. UH, THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE. UM, SAYING THAT AS A RICHARDSON RESIDENT MYSELF, MET MY WIFE AT UTD, AND WE LIVE OVER IN HEIGHTS PARK NOW. AND SO WE ARE, UH, PERSONALLY AND PROFESSIONALLY EXCITED ABOUT, UH, THIS POTENTIAL VENTURE. SO, UM, WE HAVE BEEN AS A DALLAS CAMPUS IN FOUR DIFFERENT LEASED FACILITIES, UM, AND HAVE MOVED AS WE HAVE GROWN AND RECEIVED NEW PERMITS, UH, EVERY STOP ALONG THE WAY AND GONE THROUGH THE TRA TRAFFIC PATTERN STUDIES AND, UM, DEMONSTRATING THE WHOLE, UM, CAR LENGTH QUEUING ON OUR PROPERTY. SOMETHING THAT PRIVATE SCHOOLS, UM, DO NEED TO DO AND, AND HAVE DONE THAT, DONE THAT WELL. UM, ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO, WE STARTED SEARCHING FOR A PERMANENT FACILITY FOR THIS CAMPUS. WE OWN OUR FLOWER MOUND LAND AND PROPERTY, AND OUR PLANO LAND AND PROPERTY. AND SO THIS IS, IN MANY WAYS A CULMINATION OF A, OF A LONG SEARCH AND, AND MANY SITE VISITS. AND SO I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS HAVE A SEA OF TASKS TONIGHT AND, AND IN YOUR TIME. AND, BUT JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, THIS IS A, A BIG, UH, BIG DEAL FOR OUR CAMPUS. SO I APPRECIATE YOUR, YOUR ATTENTION THERE AND STAFF AGAIN. UM, SAM AND DEREK AND THEIR TEAMS HAVE BEEN, UM, SOMETHING THAT IS HARD TO FIND IN COMBINATION THESE DAYS. THEY ARE, THEY ARE SHARP AND INTELLIGENT AND KIND AT THE SAME TIME. UM, AND THAT HAS BEEN, THAT'S BEEN A GIFT TO US IN THAT PROCESS. SO, UM, JUST TO HELP ADDRESS A COUPLE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I HEARD, AND THEN WE'LL STAND, UH, READY TO ANSWER, UH, EVEN MORE. WE DO CURRENTLY THOUGH WE ARE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS, WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO USE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT. WE DO CURRENTLY ENFORCE A RIGHT TURN ONLY FOR OUR CURRENT CAMPUS, UM, WITH AN ON STREET DALLAS POLICE OFFICER. OUR ENGINEERING, TRAFFIC ENGINEERING STUDY, I BELIEVE, REQUESTED SIGNAGE BE PUT ON OUR PROPERTY TO SAY RIGHT TURN ONLY AT THESE TIMES. UM, BUT WE'RE MORE THAN WILLING TO REINFORCE THAT WITH, WITH POLICE, RICHARDSON POLICE AS AVAILABLE. UM, ON THAT FRONT, WE DO HAVE, UH, CURRENTLY AT OUR DALLAS CAMPUS, 480 STUDENTS, SO TOTAL 240 OF WHICH WILL BE ON CAMPUS [01:10:01] AT A, AT A GIVEN TIME. SO OUR, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT GROWING TOWARDS THAT 748 NUMBER, THAT IS A GROWTH PATTERN THAT WE'RE SEEING AND WORKING TOWARDS. BUT RIGHT NOW, OUR IMPACT IS MUCH SMALLER. THIS PROPERTY SUPPORTS OUR FULL BUILD OUT, AND THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN WAS DONE WITH PROJECTED FULL BUILD OUT. UM, BUT JUST IF YOU CAME BY THE SCHOOL NEXT WEEK, YOU, YOU JUST WOULD NOT SEE, UM, EVEN 400 STUDENTS ON SITE AT A TIME. WE DO ALL OF OUR, ALL OF OUR EVENTS, THINGS LIKE GRANDPARENTS DAY OR, OR, OR CLASS PARTIES OR, OR MEET THE TEACHER. WE DO ALL OF THOSE ON DAY CO COHORTS AS WELL. AND SO WE DON'T HAVE, UM, AN INSTANCE WHERE WE HAVE ALL PARENTS, ALL STUDENTS ON CAMPUS AT A TIME, UM, IN, IN THOSE REGARDS. SO THE SITE PLAN, ALL, UM, NICK LEWIS, WHO'S WITH US WITH ARCHITECTURE FIRM, CAN WALK THROUGH A LOT OF THE RENDERINGS. BUT FOR EXAMPLE, THE SOCCER PRACTICE FIELD AND THE OUTDOOR AREA ARE VERY MUCH USED FOR, UM, POTENTIALLY PRACTICES. UM, MOSTLY FOR OUTDOOR LUNCH, RECESS, GET OUR STUDENTS OUTSIDE AND JUST ENJOY, ENJOY THE OUTDOORS. WE ARE, WE CURRENTLY OPERATE AT, OUT OF TEMPLE SHALOM AT HILLCREST AND ALPHA, AND DON'T HOST ON CAMPUS FIELD ATHLETICS THERE, UM, AS WELL. SO WE ARE, UM, UNIVERSITY MODEL OR COLLABORATIVE OR HYBRID SCHOOL, DEPENDING ON, ON HOW YOU, UM, DESCRIBE IT. WE WILL HAVE, UH, AT OUR FULL BUILD OUT ABOUT 56 STUDENTS, A GRADE, 28 OF THOSE IN TWO DIFFERENT CLASSROOMS ON CAMPUS AT A GIVEN TIME. WE DO DRAW FROM A PRETTY, PRETTY BROAD, UH, DEMOGRAPHIC AS FAR AS IN RELATION TO THIS PROPERTY ON THE MAP, UH, MUCH OF OUR GROWTH HAS BEEN FROM RICHARDSON, NORTH DALLAS, LAKE HIGHLANDS AREA. UM, BUT AGAIN, EVERY YEAR FILLING 56 KINDERGARTEN SEATS. WE DON'T, UM, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, WE'RE ABOUT A MILE AND A HALF DOWN THE ROAD CURRENTLY FROM A SCHOOL THAT'S A VERY, VERY SIMILAR MODEL TO US. AND WE, WE BOTH DON'T HAVE ROOM TO, TO TAKE ALL OF THE KINDERGARTEN STUDENTS THAT APPLY TO US. SO WE'RE NOT, UM, IN THAT SENSE, UH, TAKING AWAY SIGNIFICANTLY FROM NEIGHBORHOOD SCHOOLS AND HAVE AN EXCELLENT, UM, REPUTATION WITH THE DISD ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, UM, AROUND US AS WELL. SO, AGAIN, HAPPY TO, TO ANSWER MORE QUESTIONS, BUT JUST WANTED TO INTRODUCE MYSELF AND SAY A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SCHOOL, AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO NICK LEWIS. HI, MY NAME IS NICK LEWIS WITH INTAS DESIGN. I WILL, UM, QUICKLY RUN THROUGH SOME OF THESE SLIDES. I DON'T WANNA TAKE UP TOO MUCH OF YOUR TIME AND TRY TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. UM, THIS IS A, UH, OUR, OUR SITE PLAN. I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THE, UM, THE PARKING THAT IS AVAILABLE THAT AS WE COUNT IT ON BOTH THE DALLAS AND RICHARDSON SIDE, IS, UM, MUCH MORE THAN WE NEED. WE'RE HOLDING 200 SPACES ON THE RICHARDSON SIDE FOR THE FULL NEEDS, BUT THE ADDITIONAL 176 ON THE DALLAS SIDE WOULD NOT NECESSARILY BE NEEDED FOR THE SCHOOL IN THAT CASE. UM, LET'S SEE HERE. THIS IS OUR, OUR CIVIL SITE PLAN. UM, I'M JUST GONNA RUN THROUGH THE RENDERINGS REAL QUICK. UH, THIS WOULD BE THE VIEW FROM ABRAMS. WE WOULD HAVE A GATE, UM, WITH SOME SIGNIFICANT SIGNAGE. WE ARE PROPOSING A FENCE AROUND THE SITE, UH, MAINLY FOR SECURITY DURING SCHOOL HOURS. UM, WE'RE, WE'RE PROPOSING A DROPOFF AREA FOR STUDENTS. THIS WOULD BE THE HIGH SCHOOL AND MIDDLE SCHOOL DROPOFF AREA. UM, HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS WOULD PARK IN FRONT OF THEIR OWN DROPOFF AREA. THIS IS JUST A VIEW OF THAT. WE WILL, WE ARE PROPOSING A VESTIBULE, UM, RIGHT HERE IN FRONT OF THAT DROP OFF AREA. A NEW VESTIBULE WOULD BE REQUIRED PER ENERGY CODE ON, UM, BOTH NEW ENTRANCE OR BOTH ENTRANCES TO THE BUILDING. UM, THIS IS GONNA BE THE ELEMENTARY SIDE. THIS IS A, A DROP OFF HERE FOR THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL STUDENTS. THEY, THEY INTER SITE OVER HERE. THEY DRIVE AROUND AND THEY QUEUE UP HERE. UM, THAT, UH, ALSO HAS A VESTIBULE UNDERNEATH IT. THIS IS THE STORM SHELTER. THE STORM SHELTER IS DESIGNED FOR, UM, ABOUT 450 OCCUPANTS PER THE BUILDING CODE. UH, THAT ALL OF THIS, UH, PENDING, UH, SPECIAL USE PERMIT WOULD GO TO THE CITY FOR A BUILDING CODE REVIEW. WE'D GO THROUGH A FULL SET OF CITY COMMENTS AND ANY UPDATES THAT THEY WOULD REQUIRE THAT CITY OF RICHARDSON WOULD REQUIRE. SO, UM, BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE MEETING THE CODE AS FAR AS WE UNDERSTAND IT. AND THE, UM, THE IDEA BEHIND THE STORM SHELTER IS TO CREATE A COURTYARD. THIS WOULD BE A PLAY AREA, PARTICULARLY FOR PRE-K AND KINDERGARTEN. IT'S A LITTLE MORE PROTECTED, UM, AND HAS ACCESS DIRECTLY FROM THEIR CLASSROOMS. AND, UH, YOU'VE SEEN THESE ELEVATIONS ALREADY. UH, WE'RE MATCHING THE CHARACTER OF THE EXISTING CHURCH AS MUCH AS WE CAN WITH THE, UH, NEW STORM SHELTER. AND THEN THIS IS A, THE, UH, PLAYGROUND AREA THAT WE WERE PROPOSING ON THE DALLAS [01:15:01] SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. UM, THIS, THIS RIGHT NOW IS MOSTLY PARKING. THERE'S A SMALL PLAYGROUND AREA HERE THAT'S EXISTING, BUT WE WOULD PROPOSE TO EXTEND THAT A LITTLE BIT WIDER TO ACCOMMODATE MORE STUDENTS IN MORE OUTDOOR AREAS. UM, TAKING AWAY THE PAVING REALLY HAS NO, UM, IMPACT AS FAR AS THE CITY OF DALLAS IS CONCERNED. AND, AND THEY'VE KIND OF APPROVED THIS PLAN FOR US ALREADY. AND THEN, UM, IF WE WANNA LOOK AT FLOOR PLANS, WE CAN SHOW YOU WHERE WE'RE AT. THIS IS THE EXISTING AUDITORIUM DOES SEAT 950 PEOPLE. THEY'RE PARKED WELL BEYOND THAT. UM, WITH THEIR 400 SPACES. UH, THERE'S A GYMNASIUM HERE THAT IS EXISTING. WE WOULD REPLACE THE FLOORING AND ADDS SOME FOLD UP STANDS THAT DON'T EXIST. THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY REAL IMPROVEMENTS THERE. THE, THE REST OF THE BUILDING HERE IS THEIR EXISTING EDUCATION AND OFFICE AREAS. THESE WOULD BE RENOVATED FOR LARGER CLASSROOMS THAT WOULD ACCOMMODATE THE STUDENTS. AND THEN THE, UH, STORM SHELTER IS ADDED HERE WITH CREATING THIS COURTYARD OUTSIDE THE BUILDING. UH, THIS WOULD BE THE SECOND FLOOR. THERE'S ONLY A SECOND FLOOR ON THE EDUCATION SIDE. AND, UM, IT'S THE SAME, UM, PROCESS HERE. WE'RE ADDING LARGER CLASSROOMS TO ACCOMMODATE THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS THEY HAVE. AND, UM, THESE ARE JUST SOME COLORED PLANS. THE BLUE, IT DOES SHOW THE CLASSROOMS. THERE'S OFFICE AREAS AND, UM, MORE PUBLIC AREAS. THE GYM AND AUDITORIUM IN YELLOW, CIRCULATION IN BLUE. IF YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW THE BUILDING IS WORKING. AND THAT'S THE SECOND FLOOR OF THE EDUCATION WING. AND, UM, THAT'S THE STORM SHELTER. THERE'S, UM, SOME SMALLER MULTIPURPOSE ROOMS. THERE'S SOME ROOMS, AND THEN A LARGE MULTIPURPOSE ROOM. THIS WOULD ALSO FUNCTION IN ADDITION TO BEING A STORM SHELTER AS A, UH, INCLEMENT WEATHER LUNCHROOM OR GATHERING SPACE AS NEEDED. AND, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S THE INTERIOR OF THE GYMNASIUM. THAT'S ANOTHER RENDERING. BUT, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY ALL WE HAVE. WE'RE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MR. HUTCHER RUDDER. SO AFTER WHAT YOU'VE JUST SHOWN ME, I HAVE SOME REAL CONCERNS. AND CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE BEGINNING OF YOUR PRESENTATION? YES, SIR. OKAY. OH, I'M SORRY. WHOA. GO, GO, GO FORWARD. ONE MORE, ONE MORE. STOP RIGHT THERE. YES, SIR. SO, AGAIN, WE ONLY GET TO SPEND FIVE, 10 MINUTES WITH YOU, SO I HAVE TO BELIEVE WHAT YOU TELL ME. YET, IN YOUR VERY FIRST PRESENTATION, YOU SAID YOU'RE ONLY GONNA HAVE THAT BE A RIGHT TURNOUT LANE, AND YOU SHOW A LEFT TURN THERE ON, ON YOUR, ON YOUR DESCRIPTION. SO, UH, IT JUST ALWAYS BOTHERS ME ANYTIME I SIT THROUGH THESE MEETINGS AND YOU SAY ONE THING, AND THEN YOU PUT UP YOUR, YOUR INFORMATION UP THERE AND YOU SHOW SOMETHING DIFFERENT. BUT THAT'S OKAY. NEXT QUESTION. CAN YOU GO A LITTLE FURTHER IN YOUR PRESENTATION AGAIN, I, YOU'RE JUST RAISING A LOT OF QUESTIONS FOR ME BECAUSE YOU, UM, IF YOU GO, KEEP GOING BACK TO YOUR ATHLETIC AREA YES, SIR. TO THE, TO THE END KEEP. YEAH. CLOSE TO THE END. THIS ONE OR THE TWO ONE. KEEP GOING. ONE, GO TO THE VERY AND STOP WHOOP ONE TOO MANY. OKAY. I, YOU SAY THAT YOU'RE ONLY GONNA BE DOING THINGS DURING THE DAY. YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE AFTERNOONS AND EVENINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. IF SO, WHY WOULD YOU DO CONCESSIONS? SO AGAIN, YEAH. THERE, THERE WILL BE, THERE WILL BE BASKETBALL AND VOLLEYBALL GAMES IN THE GYM. THAT WILL BE AFTER HOURS. I THINK HIS POINT WAS, THERE WOULD BE NO FIELD EVENTS. OKAY. OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES AFTER HOURS. OKAY. SO, SO YOU'RE, MY PROBLEM IS, IS, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING IS EVERY TIME WE GET INTO ONE OF THESE, WE, WE, YOU, YOU TELL US ONE THING, AND THEN WHEN YOU SHOW US THINGS, IT, IT'S IN, IT'S DIAMETRICALLY OPPOSED, BECAUSE THE QUESTION WAS, WAS THERE GOING TO BE THINGS AFTER HOURS, NIGHTS WEEK IN OUR OWN MAYOR ASK US THAT QUESTION? AND THEN NOW WE'RE HEARING, NO, NO, NO, NO. WE'RE GONNA HAVE NIGHTS AND WEEKENDS, BASKETBALL, WE'RE GONNA HAVE CONCESSIONS. I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S TO HAVE A LOT OF, OF, I MEAN THAT YOU DON'T SELL CONCESSIONS UNLESS YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A FAIR AMOUNT OF PEOPLE COMING INTO YOUR BUILDING. SO I, I, I JUST, IT, IT'S WITH ME PERSONALLY, PROFESSIONALLY, IT JUST ALWAYS, WHEN WE START ASKING THESE QUESTIONS AND YOU START SHOWING THINGS VERSUS, YOU KNOW, OR YOU START TELLING US SOME ONE THING AND THEN YOU START SHOWING US SOME OTHER THINGS. SO, UH, OKAY. I, I, I HEARD, THANK YOU. I'LL APOLOGIZE FOR THE LEFT TURN LANE. WE, WE DID THOSE RENDERINGS PRIOR TO THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, AND THAT WAS A REQUIREMENT THAT CAME OUT OF THAT MEETING. AND WE HAD NOT THOSE. IT'S, I'VE, I'VE HEARD ENOUGH. THANK YOU, SIR. I APPRECIATE IT. MR. BARRIOS. OH, YOU WANNA GO AHEAD AND FINISH YOUR THOUGHT THERE? THAT WAS ALL TO HIS CONCERNS. THAT WAS ALL. YEAH. WE, WE FINISHED THOSE RENDERINGS PRIOR TO THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION [01:20:01] MEETING. SO THOSE, THOSE LEFT TURN LANES WERE, UM, I MEAN, THAT'S THE SAME PRESENTATION WE HAD. WE HAD, WE DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO UPDATE OR RESUBMIT ANYTHING. HEADMASTER, DO YOU MIND COMING UP, UH, I APOLOGIZE. WHAT WAS YOUR NAME AGAIN? JOHN JORDAN. JOHN HEADMASTER JORDAN. OKAY. UM, ON THE SLIDE EIGHT THAT WE WERE SHOWN EARLIER, THAT WAS TALKING ABOUT THE TRAFFIC, UH, MANAGEMENT AND QUEUING WHERE IT SHOWED THE RED AND BLUE GOING AROUND. YES. MY CONCERN WAS THAT SOUTHBOUND ABRAMS TURNING IN, UH, HOW DO Y'ALL COMMUNICATE TRAFFIC AND THAT TO THE PARENTS AND OR TO ANYBODY COMING BECAUSE THAT, THAT IS HONESTLY MY BIGGEST CONCERN. RIGHT. I KNOW EVERYBODY HAS THEIR OWN CONCERN. THAT'S KIND OF YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. SO AT OUR CURRENT PROPERTY, WE'RE, WE ARE RIGHT AT THE INTERSECTION OF HILLCREST AND ALPHA. RIGHT. I KNOW EXACTLY. WITH, WITH SIMILARLY, A, UM, THE HILLCREST EXIT HAS A POSSIBILITY TO TAKE A LEFT TURN, AND THEN SIMILARLY TO TURN INTO THE RIGHT. SO TWO, TWO METHODS. ONE IS WE DO HIRE OFF-DUTY POLICE OFFICERS AND THEY'RE OUT THERE HELPING DIRECT TRAFFIC. WE ALSO HAVE OUR PARENTS READ AND SIGN A TRAFFIC AGREEMENT EVERY YEAR WITH OUR CURRENT LOCATION, BECAUSE WE ARE RIGHT UP AGAINST A NEIGHBORHOOD. WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE VALLEY VIEW NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION TO NOT SEND TRAFFIC THROUGH THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. WE HAVE ESSENTIALLY A NO DRIVE ZONE WITH THEM. AND SO WE HAVE OUR PARENTS AGREE TO THAT EVERY YEAR. AND THEN THE DALLAS POLICE OFFICERS AND STAFF MONITORING THOSE AT THE CURRENT PROPERTY. NOW, IF THIS IS APPROVED, UH, WITH A MAXIMUM OF 400 STUDENTS ATTENDING PER DAY, UM, , UM, WHAT DID YOU SAY YOUR CURRENT ENROLLMENT IS? 480 FOR THE, FOR THIS UPCOMING FALL. OKAY. TOTAL STUDENTS. SO THAT'S 240 PER DAY, TWO 40 ON CAMPUS MONDAY, WEDNESDAY. SO YOU'RE DOUBLING IN SIZE. IS THAT A THREE YEAR PLAN? FIVE YEAR PLAN, 10 YEAR PLAN SHOULD TAKE ABOUT THE NEXT EIGHT YEARS. SO WE HAVE, UM, FOUR SECTIONS OF KINDERGARTEN, FOR EXAMPLE, FOUR, FOUR SECTIONS OF KINDERGARTEN ALL THE WAY THROUGH FOURTH GRADE, TWO SECTIONS FIFTH THROUGH 10TH, ONE SECTION 11TH AND 12TH. THAT FOUR SECTION BUBBLE IS GOING TO GROW UP ONE YEAR AT A TIME. SO IT'S ABOUT 38 STUDENTS A YEAR GROWING UP. SO EVERY, EVERY YEAR THAT'S THE RATE THAT WE WOULD BE ADDING. SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT SIX TO SEVEN YEARS, UH, FOR SURE AT THE SOONEST TO ACTUALLY HIT THE NUMBER. CORRECT. BEFORE WE WOULD EVEN HAVE THE, THE CLASS SECTIONS POSSIBLE, THAT NUMBER WOULD BE EVERY SINGLE SEAT A HUNDRED PERCENT FULL AT THOSE SECTIONS AS WELL, WHICH JUST DOESN'T HAPPEN IN THE PRIVATE SCHOOL WORLD OFTEN. YEAH. UM, WHAT, IN REGARDS TO THOSE EVENTS, 'CAUSE I COULD SEE WHERE, UH, MY COLLEAGUE, HUTCHIN RIDER, AND I KNOW COUNCILMAN DORIAN HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE EVENING. WHERE DO YOU CURRENTLY HAVE BASKETBALL? DOES? 'CAUSE Y'ALL ARE AT SHALOM, CORRECT? YES. WE HAVE NO GYM THERE. OKAY. WE RENT, WE PLAY AN ENTIRELY AWAY GAME BASKETBALL SCHEDULE. AND FOR VOLLEYBALL, WE RENT, UM, DALLAS PREMIER VOLLEYBALL, FURTHER WEST DOWN ALPHA ROAD, PAST TEMPLE SHALOM. AND IT IS JUST A, A VOLLEYBALL WAREHOUSE OF MAYBE EIGHT COURTS. AND WE PULL UP A STAND WITH 40 OR 50 PEOPLE. AND THOSE ARE THE PRO PREDOMINANTLY PARENTS AND OLDER STUDENTS THAT WILL COME SUPPORT THE VOLLEYBALL TEAM. SO THE, THIS WOULD BE AFTERNOON, EARLY EVENING, INDOOR SPORT EVENTS. THE SEATING IN THE GYM IS ABOUT TWO HUNDRED AND FORTY, TWO FORTY. SO WE TAKE AND WE TICKET OUR EVENTS, EVEN WHEN WE'RE AT OUTSIDE VENUES, LIKE WE CAN FIT REALLY NO MORE THAN 50 OR 60 WHEN WE'RE AT OUR RENTED FACILITY FOR VOLLEYBALL. SURE. SO WE HAVE A TICKETING SYSTEM. THE FIRST 50 OR 60 COME TO THE HOME GAMES. SO, SO MY DAY JOB IS I TEACH AT A HIGH SCHOOL WITH RISD. GREAT. UM, AND I KNOW IN HIGH SCHOOL AT A TRADITIONAL MM-HMM. YOU KNOW, LARGE, UH, SIX A HIGH SCHOOL, WE HAVE A VARSITY TEAM, A JV TEAM, AND THEN WE SOMETIMES, WELL, USUALLY THERE'LL BE A COUPLE FRESHMAN TEAMS. RIGHT. SO WE HAVE FOUR BASKETBALL THAT'S JUST BOYS. AND YOU HAVE ANOTHER FOUR GIRLS TEAMS, SO IT STAYS PRETTY BUSY ON CAMPUS. RIGHT. DO YOU HAVE A MIDDLE SCHOOL TEAM? OBVIOUSLY YOUR ENROLLMENT SMALLER. DO YOU HAVE A MIDDLE SCHOOL, A B TEAM? IS THERE AN EIGHTH GRADE TEAM, SEVENTH GRADE TEAM, A AND B AND EACH, OR LIKE, HELP ME UNDERSTAND. YES. ARE WE TALKING ABOUT DURING BASKETBALL SEASON? IT'S TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY, FRIDAY THERE'S GAMES. SO OUR OUR CURRENT SETUP, OUR MIDDLE SCHOOL IS A LITTLE BIT MORE BUILT OUT THAN OUR HIGH SCHOOL. SO THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD EXAMPLE. WE HAVE TWO FIFTH AND SIXTH GRADE VOLLEYBALL TEAMS, TWO FIFTH AND TWO SEVENTH AND EIGHTH GRADE VOLLEYBALL TEAMS IN BASKETBALL. WE HAVE ONE BOYS TEAM IN FIFTH AND SIXTH, ONE GIRLS TEAM IN FIFTH AND SIXTH, AND THEN A SEPARATE TEAM FOR SEVENTH AND EIGHTH BOYS AND SEVENTH AND EIGHTH GIRLS. THAT WOULD CONTINUE. OUR, OUR TWO OTHER CAMPUSES ARE MORE FULLY BUILT OUT. UM, AND SO THEY MIGHT BE A GOOD EXAMPLE. THERE'S A BOY BOYS VARSITY AND BOYS JUNIOR VARSITY BASKETBALL TEAM, GIRLS VARSITY AND GIRLS JUNIOR [01:25:01] VARSITY TEAM. SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE AT THIS 700 OR SO NUMBER TOTAL. AND THEY, THEY WIND UP WITH THOSE, THOSE TEAMS OF HIGH SCHOOL BASKETBALL AT THAT LEVEL. SO DOES THAT MEAN THEY NORMALLY WOULD PLAY BASKETBALL TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY? OR IS THAT A TUESDAY? THEY TUESDAY AND EVERYBODY JUST PLAYS BACK TO BACK AND IT'S A ONE NIGHT A WEEK DURING SEASON. YEAH. SO THEIR GAMES ARE GENERALLY TWO NIGHTS A WEEK. ONE OF THOSE AT HOME, ONE OF THOSE AWAY, CALL IT ON A TUESDAY OR A THURSDAY. OKAY. AND SO WE WOULD, OUR AWAY OPPONENTS, WE GO AND PLAY A 4:00 PM JV GAME AT FIVE 30 VARSITY GAME, UM, AWAY. AND THEN THAT WOULD BE VERY SIMILAR FOR HOME GAMES AS WELL. OKAY. OF YOUR CURRENT ENROLLMENT, HOW MANY WOULD YOU SAY ARE RICHARDSON RESIDENTS? UH, OFF, 50% OFF. A THIRD. A THIRD. THIRD. OKAY. I WAS WONDERING 'CAUSE I WAS SURPRISED TO HEAR THAT YOU WERE FROM RICHARDSON. I DON'T THINK WE'VE EVER MET BEFORE. YEAH. UM, AND, UM, I DO KNOW TWO FAMILIES WHO, WHO ATTEND YOUR SCHOOL. MM-HMM. . AND I ACTUALLY HAVE SOMEBODY AT MY PLACE WHO WORKS AT YOUR SCHOOL WHO, WHO, UH, LIVES A COUPLE BLOCKS OVER FROM ME. UH, SO I'VE HEARD GREAT THINGS ABOUT Y'ALL AND I KNOW MANY OF THE CHARTER SCHOOLS WELL, UM, THEY DON'T HAVE AS GOOD OF A REPUTATION AS YOU GUYS. SO, UM, UM, I MEAN, IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE ANY CHARTER SCHOOL, I THINK YOU GUYS WOULD BE THE ONES WE WOULD WANT. UM, I APPRECIATE THAT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD FROM, BASED ON THE LITTLE I KNOW OF, UM, THAT WORLD, UH, FROM A PUBLIC TEACHER PERSPECTIVE. UM, THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR NOW. THANK YOU. GREAT. OKAY, MR. CORCORAN. I'M SORRY, MR. I THOUGHT MY LIGHT WAS ON REAL, REAL QUICK. FIRST, UH, JOHN, I WANNA SAY IN PREPARATION FOR THIS CASE, UH, WASN'T REALLY IMMEDIATELY RELEVANT TO A ZONING CASE. I DID LISTEN TO YOUR PODCAST, PAI AND PAA, RIGHT? IS THAT RIGHT? PIA. PIA, I'M SORRY. YEAH, PAA IS A, IT'S A GREAT DISH. WONDERFUL DISH. I WOULD FANTASTIC CHOOSE THAT OVER ANCIENT GREEK FORBES OF EDUCATION MYSELF, OFTEN , I SUSPECT THAT'S NOT ALWAYS THE CASE. YEAH. . YEAH. UM, I JUST, UH, I REALLY, IT KIND OF, I WANTED TO PIGGYBACK, UH, OFF OF COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, BARRIOS QUESTION ABOUT THE, THE CURRENT ENROLLMENT AND THE RESIDENCY THERE SINCE I, I DO, I DO HAVE HERE IN THE, THE CPC CASE THAT YOU GUYS SAID, MOST OF YOUR CURRENT ENROLLMENT COMES FROM THE IMMEDIATE AREA THAT, YOU KNOW, HILLCREST AND ALPHA AREA, UM, UH, AROUND YOUR SCHOOL, RIGHT. THE CURRENT CAMPUS. AND SO MY, I GUESS MY QUESTION TO Y'ALL IS, YOU KNOW, WHY, UM, WHY DID Y'ALL CHOOSE THIS LOCATION HERE IN RICHARDSON? RIGHT? YEAH. SO WE HAVE, THERE'S A, THERE'S A LONG VERSION AND THERE'S A SHORT VERSION. I, I READING THE ROOM AND I'LL GO SHORT, BUT YES. UM, SO WE, IN, IN THE SEARCH, WE VISITED OVER 30 PROPERTIES. SEVERAL OF THEM ARE GOING TO BE RULED OUT SHEARLY BY THEIR BY SIZE. THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT ENOUGH FOR WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO. WE ARE, WE ARE NOT WANTING TO, UH, THERE'S TWO THINGS WE'RE WANTING TO AVOID. ONE OF THEM IS WE HAVE FOUND THIS 700 BALLPARK YEAR TO YEAR ENROLLED STUDENT BODY IS VERY IDEAL FOR, FOR A K 12 EDUCATION SIZE. OUR, OUR PRINCIPALS KNOW OUR STUDENTS AND THEIR FAMILIES. OUR TEACHERS KNOW THEIR STUDENTS AND THEIR FAMILIES. IT FEELS SMALL ENOUGH IN THE CLASSROOM THAT IT, IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE INTIMATE IN THAT WAY AND A LITTLE BIT MORE INDIVIDUALIZED IN THE LEARNING. BUT YOU ALSO GET TO THE POINT THAT YOU HAVE ENOUGH OF A STUDENT BODY TO ATTRACT A, A, A VOLLEYBALL TEAM AND, AND GIVE YOUR COMMUNITY SOMETHING TO RALLY AROUND. SO WE'VE KNOWN WHAT OUR MAX WILL BE. AND WHAT WE DID NOT WANT TO DO WAS PURCHASE A PROPERTY OR MOVE TO A PROPERTY THAT WE KNEW WE WOULD ONLY BE SHORT TERM TENANTS IN. UM, WE WANTED TO, TO PUT ROOTS DOWN FOR THE SAKE OF OUR CAMPUS AND FOR THE SAKE OF THE NEIGHBORS AROUND THE CAMPUS, UM, TO, TO USE A PERMANENT SCHOOL FACILITY AS A METHOD OF TEACHING OUR STUDENTS WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR AND WHAT IT MEANS TO SUPPORT THOSE AROUND THEM. WE'RE DOING THAT RIGHT NOW AS A, UM, CHRISTIAN SCHOOL MEETING IN A JEWISH SYNAGOGUE RIGHT NEXT TO A NEIGHBORHOOD AND ACROSS THE STREET FROM A GREEK ORTHODOX CHURCH. I MEAN, IT WAS, IT'S A, A WHEN WE GET TOGETHER WITH THEIR FACULTY, ESPECIALLY WHEN I WEAR MIKE COLLAR, IT'S A, LOOKS LIKE THE SETUP TO A JOKE OF A, A PRIEST AND A RABBI AND A LAWYER WALKING INTO A SYNAGOGUE. MM-HMM. . BUT PART OF WHAT WE'RE DOING IS, UM, HOW WE SAY IT IS WE'RE TRAINING ETHICAL SERVANT LEADERS AND WISE THINKERS WHO WILL SHAPE CULTURE FOR THE GLORY OF GOD. AND, UM, US MODELING FOR OUR STUDENTS WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A NEIGHBOR WHEN IT COMES TO TRAFFIC, WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A NEIGHBOR TO THE SIKH COMMUNITY THAT'S DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH OF US. MM-HMM. , UM, AT, AT THIS PROPERTY, UM, THE, THE POTENTIAL FOR WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A NEIGHBOR TO RICHLAND COLLEGE, TO BE A NEIGHBOR TO WRESTLING CEMETERY, UM, WE VIEWED THIS SITE IN MANY WAYS AS NOT JUST A PLACE TO MEET, BUT A AN ABIL GIVING [01:30:01] US THE ABILITY TO USE OUR LAND AND TO USE OUR PROPERTY TO MODEL FOR STUDENTS WHAT IT MEANS TO ANYBODY CAN TEACH 'EM HOW TO, HOW TO SOLVE THE QUADRATIC EQUATIONS AND DO IT RIGHT. THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE ABOUT. SO WHAT, WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE A, AN ETHICAL SERVANT LEADER AND A WISE THINKER WHO'S ACTUALLY GOING TO GO AND SHAPE THE CULTURE, NOT COMPLAIN IT, COMPLAIN ABOUT IT, OR COME TO A CITY COUNCIL MEETING AND MOCK IT? IT'S, IT'S, WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO, TO SHAPE CULTURE? AND SO IT, IT, OF THE, OF ALL THE PROPERTIES WE VISITED, UM, I THINK THIS ONE HAS STOOD OUT MOST IN THAT CAPACITY OF, IT HAS MORE DIRECT NEIGHBORS OF NOT JUST A NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, IT'S IN A CITY THAT WE, THAT WE KNOW AND, AND TRUST TO BE FRANK. UM, AND IT GIVES US THIS ABILITY TO BE PART OF, OF HELPING REVITALIZE A, A PART OF TOWN THAT'S KIND OF ON THE VERY CORNER OF THE MAP AND, AND TOUCHING DALLAS. SO. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. YEP. THANK YOU MR. CORCORAN. I HAVE TWO LAST QUESTIONS, PLEASE. UNLESS COUNSEL, UNLESS THIS SPURS SOMEBODY UP REAL QUICK. COULD YOU GO TO THE SLIDE THAT'S THE EXTERIOR VERSION WHERE THE, UM, KEEP GOING OUTSIDE. KEEP GOING. ONE MORE, ONE MORE. THAT ONE. OKAY. I'M LOOKING THROUGH ALL THAT. I SEE A LOT OF THINGS. WHERE ARE THE EXTERNAL LIGHTS? THERE'S NO STREET LIGHTS, POST LIGHTS, ANYTHING LIKE THAT? UM, I THINK I MIGHT HAVE SEEN A COUPLE ON THE SIDE OF THE WALL, ON THE FRONT WALL, BUT I DON'T KNOW. WHERE'S YOUR LIGHTING COME FROM AND HOW'S THAT GONNA IMPACT THE NEIGHBORHOOD? SURE. THERE, THERE ARE EXISTING LIGHTS IN THE PARKING AREAS RIGHT NOW ON LIGHT POLES. THEY'RE ALONG THE AISLE OR BETWEEN THE TWO PARKING BAYS HERE. UH, WE DID NOT MODEL THOSE IN THE RENDERING. THAT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO, UH, CITY REVIEW WITH, UH, NEW IECC CODES. THERE MAY BE, UM, ADDITIONAL LIGHTING AROUND THE BUILDING THAT IS REQUIRED. THAT'S AN ENGINEERING STUDY WE HAVEN'T UNDERTAKEN YET, TO BE HONEST. OKAY. THIS FOOTPRINT IS RICHARDSON AND DALLAS. YES, SIR. YOU'VE GOT IT GATED. IF SOMETHING, PRAY, TELL, I HOPE IT DOESN'T, BUT IF SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN WHERE YOU NEED TO CALL THE POLICE, WHO DO YOU CALL? RICHARDSON OR DALLAS AND HOW DO THEY GET IN? SO OUR, THE AUTOMATIC GATE AT THE MAIN ENTRANCE OFF OF ABRAMS, WE ANTICIPATE BEING OPENED DURING CAR LINES AND THEN CLOSED WITH A CALL BOX. AND THE POLICE AND FIRE CRASH BAR IS NOT THE RIGHT WORD FOR THEM. UM, BUT THE, THE, THE ACCESS FOR POLICE AND FIRE TO GET IN THROUGH THE GATE AND RICHARDSON WOULD OUR, WOULD BE OUR UNDERSTANDING AS THE, THE PERMIT AND THE CODING IS, IS THERE. WE DO HAVE A PRIVATE SECURITY FORCE AS WELL, UM, THAT WE CONTRACT OUT THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD SERVE AT THIS PROPERTY AS WELL. OUR RA ARRANGEMENT WITH DALLAS WITH THEM. THERE'S SOME, SOME PANIC BUTTONS THAT THEY CARRY IN OTHER WAYS WHERE WE, THEY KNOW WHO OUR OFFICERS ARE AND WHAT THEIR UNIFORMS ARE LIKE IN, IN THE EVENT TO THE, AN EVENT. OKAY. THANK YOU MR. JORDAN. YEAH, THANK YOU. OKAY. AT THIS TIME WE WILL OPEN THIS UP TO, UH, PUBLIC HEARING. UM, IF THERE'S ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON OR AGAINST THIS, WE'D LIKE TO HAVE YOU COME UP NOW. I HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY CARDS, MAYOR. OKAY. THANK YOU. NO CARDS. COULD GET A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. MR. HUTCHIN RIDER. MAYOR, IF THERE'S NO PUBLIC COMMENTS, I'D MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. JOE, YOU SECOND? YES, SIR. OKAY. GOT A MOTION TO SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR HANDS PLEASE. OKAY. PUBLIC HEARING. IT'S CLOSED. OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANY, MR. RIDER? MAYOR, I, I JUST FEEL LIKE AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS, I HAVE SERIOUS QUESTIONS, TRIED TO GET THE QUESTIONS ANSWERED. YOU KNOW, I THINK SEVERAL OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ASKED THE QUESTION AND THEN AT THE END WE HEARD SOMETHING TOTALLY DIFFERENT. SO IT REALLY CONCERNS ME AS TO WHAT THIS SPACE WOULD ULTIMATELY, HOW LARGE WOULD IT BECOME? APPARENTLY IT GETS BEING, BEING PURCHASED AND SO THAT, YOU KNOW, ONCE THE, THE ZONING'S APPROVED, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT CAN HAPPEN AFTER THE FACT. UM, I, I'M NOT CONVINCED THAT IT'S THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE. SO, UM, I, I'M VERY MUCH INCLINED TO, TO DENY THIS REQUEST AND WOULD, WOULD LOVE TO MAKE A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT ONCE MY FELLOW COUNSEL PEOPLE HAVE A CHANCE TO OPINE. OKAY. MR. CORPORATE, ARE YOU WANTING TO SECOND OR ARE YOU WANTING TO ADD COMMENTS? I'D LIKE TO ADD ADD COMMENTS. JUST A, A COMMENT OR, OR A QUESTION. UM, SAM, REAL QUICK, I'D ASKED EARLIER [01:35:01] ABOUT PD 4 1 4 1. DOES ANYONE HAVE OKAY. THANK YOU, CHARLES WONDER. OKAY, SO THIS IS, UH, ONE OF OUR, UH, PDS THAT, THAT DOES NOT HAVE AN UNDERLYING ZONING DISTRICT. SO IT'S ONLY THE USES THAT ARE ENUMERATED IN THE PD, WHICH INCLUDE OFFICE MOTOR VEHICLE STORAGE YARD, UM, UH, MOTOR VEHICLE REPAIR SHOP, TECHNICAL TRAINING, SCHOOL WAREHOUSE, PRINT SHOP, AND GREENHOUSE AND RESIDENTIAL MULCH BUSINESSES. YEAH, THOSE USES ARE ALL RELATED TO RISD. I SEE. SO AGAIN, THINKING, LET'S SAY THIS HYPOTHETICAL SITUATION HAPPENS IN 10 YEARS AND THERE'S THIS BIG GREENFIELD RIGHT THERE ACROSS FROM THIS PROPERTY, THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO US AND ASK FOR MORE USES IF THEY WANTED ANYTHING BESIDES THOSE CORRECT. FAIRLY LIMITED USES? CORRECT. OKAY. OKAY. MR. BARRIOS, I WANNA ADD A COUPLE COMMENTS. UM, KNOWING THAT, THAT I FEEL EVEN STRONGER, UM, ANYTHING THAT WOULD HAPPEN ON THAT WESTERN, A PROPERTY THAT BELONGS TO RSD RIGHT NOW WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO US, YOU KNOW, AND REALITY IS, IT IS BUILT CHEAPER TO BUILD ON GREENFIELD THAN IT IS TO TEAR DOWN A MASSIVE STRUCTURE SUCH AS A PARKING LOT AND CHURCH AND TURN IT INTO SOME KIND OF RETAIL, UM, CASH GENERATING, YOU KNOW, REVENUE GENERATING DEVELOPMENT. WHAT HAPPENS WITH, WHAT I'M CONCERNED THAT IF THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN IS THAT THIS WOULD SELL, UH, TO ANOTHER CHURCH. NOT THAT THAT IN ITSELF IS A CONCERN, BUT, YOU KNOW, UM, I THINK THIS IS A GOOD USE FOR IT. IT PROVIDES A SERVICE THAT A LOT OF, I MEAN, I THINK HE'S HEADMASTER SAID ABOUT A THIRD OF THEIR ENROLLMENTS ARE, YOU KNOW, STUDENTS WHO LIVE IN RICHARDSON. I KNOW A COUPLE FAMILIES HERE. LIKE I SAID, I HAVE SOMEBODY IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD WHO TEACHES HERE. UM, IT PROVIDES SOMETHING DIFFERENT. I DON'T SEE THIS AS COMPETITIVE TO, UH, RSD IS JUST A TOTALLY DIFFERENT PRODUCT. AND WHILE IT MAY NOT BE RIGHT FOR ME, UH, AND MY FAMILY, IT'S RIGHT FOR SOMEBODY ELSE. AND I I, AND KNOWING THE QUALITY, I'M NOT A FAN OF CHARTER SCHOOLS IN GENERAL. I, BUT THIS IS A HIGH QUALITY ONE. AND WE LOOK AT SOME OF THE STUFF DOWN IN DALLAS AND SOME OF OTHER CITIES AROUND US, AND THEY'RE NOWHERE NEAR THIS HIGH QUALITY. UM, AND I THINK THIS IS A PERFECT OPPORTUNITY. WE, WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT, UM, OUTDOOR ATHLETICS. THAT'S NOT HAPPENING. YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF EVENING BASKETBALL AND VOLLEYBALL. UH, IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY HAVE A HISTORY OF WORKING WITH THEIR NEIGHBORS. THEY'RE CURRENTLY IN TEMPLE SHALOM. UM, I, I WOULD HATE TO SEE, UM, I, I THINK THERE'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I THINK THEY MAKE GOOD NEIGHBORS. UH, THEY, THEY PROVIDE A SERVICE THAT OUR RESIDENTS ARE USING. AND, UM, I DON'T SEE WHERE IT'S GONNA, WHERE IT WOULD CONFLICT WITH ANY BUSINESS'S GONNA GO IN. SO, WHILE IN GENERAL, LIKE I SAID, I'M NOT A FAN OF CHARTER SCHOOLS IN GENERAL. I ALSO THINK THAT, UM, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS PROPERTY, AND I THINK IT'S A SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY THAT, UH, THEY NEED AND WANT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. I'LL JUST ADD THAT FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, UM, I THINK WE'RE SENDING, SENDING THE WRONG MESSAGE TO RICHARDSON, ISD IF WE SAY LET'S PUT 400, 800 WHATEVER STUDENTS OVER THE COURSE OF TIME WHEN OUR ISD GETS PAID BY HAVING SEATS IN THE SEATS. AND SO YOU TAKE 400 OF 'EM OUT, 800 OF 'EM OUT, AND NOW, AND WE'RE HAVING TO TWEAK THIS ZONE TO MAKE IT WORK FOR THEM, WHERE AT THE SAME TIME YOU'RE TAKING MONEY AWAY FROM RISD AND WE KNOW THE PROBLEMS THAT THEY HAVE RECENTLY HAD, AND EVERYONE ON THIS COUNCIL'S RECEIVED LETTERS BECAUSE THEY ARE, UH, HAVING TO CUT THEIR BUDGETS. I'M HAVING A HARD TIME WITH IT, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. SO ANYWAY, THAT'S JUST A QUICK THOUGHT. I DON'T NECESSARILY WANNA ARGUE ABOUT IT, UH, WITH MR. BARRIOS, BUT I DO SEE IT AS A THREAT IF YOU, IF YOU, WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, THEY'RE CURRENTLY IN DALLAS, BUT THEY'RE TAKING RISD STUDENTS CURRENTLY. AND SO THEY DO HAVE RISD, YOU PUT 'EM IN THE HEART OF RISD, THEY'RE PROBABLY GONNA GET MORE, IS WHAT I WOULD SPECULATE. MR. [01:40:01] DORIAN. THANK YOU, MAYOR. WELL, I, I, AGAIN, I WANT TO JUST VOICE MY, MY COMMENTS. UM, ONE I, I LIVE IN, IN THAT AREA, I KNOW THAT AREA WELL. AND PERSONALLY, I, I DO AGREE WITH YOU MAYOR, THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO SUPPORT OUR RISD, UM, AS PRIMARY SOURCE. BUT, UM, SECONDLY, I FEEL THAT THAT AREA HAS POTENTIAL FOR PLAN DEVELOPMENT. I MEAN, WE CURRENTLY DO, THERE IS LAND AVAILABLE THERE, UM, THAT'S OWNED BY RISD. UM, WE HAVE THIS, THIS PROPERTY AND OF COURSE THE ENTIRE CORNER THERE THAT COULD BE UTILIZED. AND, UM, AGAIN, CREATING MORE OF AN ELEVATED APPROACH FOR THAT AREA. 'CAUSE THAT'S ALL THE LAND THAT'S LEFT IN THAT, IN THAT DISTRICT AND THAT, AND, AND PLACE ONE. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT, UH, THOUGHT THROUGH A LITTLE MORE. THIS KIND OF REMINDS ME OF WHERE BUCKINGHAM, TEXAS USED TO BE, AND IT WASN'T REALLY THOUGHT THROUGH AND DECISIONS WERE MADE WHERE THE DEVELOPMENT TURNED INTO WHAT IT IS TODAY. AND IT'S HARD TO GO BACK IN AND REDEVELOP IT AT THE MOMENT. SO I FEEL LIKE THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY, AND THIS IS ALSO AN AREA THAT WE COULD HAVE THE SAME ISSUES. AGAIN, I'M ALSO LOOKING AT THE TRAFFICKING. I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S TRAFFIC DURING A CERTAIN PART OF THE DAY, BUT THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS THERE, YOU CAN, AND ESPECIALLY WITH HIGH SCHOOLERS, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE VEHICLES. THEY'RE GONNA HAVE PEOPLE GOING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOODS. IT'S GONNA CREATE TRAFFIC THERE. WE ALREADY HAVE A LOT OF TRAFFIC IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS COMING FROM THE GARLAND AND DALLAS SIDE OFF OF WALNUT THAT TRAVEL THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THIS IS JUST GONNA IMPACT THAT AS WELL. SO I, I'M, I'M, I HAVE TO ALSO SAY I'M INCLINED TO, UH, NOT APPROVE THIS. THANK YOU, MR. CHU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WELL, I DO AGREE THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A MUCH BETTER PRODUCT IF YOU LOOK AT THE SCHOOL WISE, BUT THAT'S NOT REALLY MY CONCERN. UH, IT THINK, YOU KNOW, THIS IS OPPORTUNITY FOR REALLY SOME HUGE DEVELOPMENT INTO THAT AREA. IF YOU, IF WE GO, IF WE LOSE THAT OPPORTUNITY, IT'S GONNA BE A LOST OPPORTUNITY. SO I THINK, UH, YOU KNOW, IT IS POSSIBLE THAT THE RICHARD HIGH, YOU KNOW, I-S-D-I-S-D, THEY MIGHT SELL THE PROPERTY ON OTHER SIDE, UH, THAT HUGE BACKEND PROPERTY. AND ALSO THIS ONE, THERE IS A HUGE LAND AREA. I THINK, UH, WE'RE NOT GETTING ANY TAX RIGHT NOW, SO WE NOT GETTING ANY FROM THAT EITHER. RIGHT. SO, YOU KNOW, WE WAITED ON SO MANY DEVELOPMENTS, SO MANY YEARS. SO I THINK WE CAN WAIT A LITTLE BIT ON THIS ONE, UH, FOR A BETTER, UH, OTHER DEVELOPMENT. AND, UH, I WOULD REALLY, UH, I WOULD TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY REALLY, UH, TO SEE IF SOMETHING HAPPENED IN THE FUTURE IN THAT AREA. MR. BARRIOS. WELL, I WAS, I WAS GONNA WONDER OR MOVE TO SEE IF WE COULD, UH, TABLE THIS FOR THE WHOLE COUNT UNTIL THE ENTIRE COUNCIL, UH, CAN MAKE IT IN A WEEK OR TWO. I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT DON'S THOUGHTS ARE. I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF IT. I, I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT MR. CORCORAN HAS TO SAY BEFORE WE WERE TO GET TO, TRYING TO LOOK AT THAT. YEAH. I, I REALLY DON'T VIEW THIS AS AN RISD OR AN ENROLLMENT THING. AND I REALLY VIEW THIS MORE AS A, A LONG-TERM PLANNING AND SORT OF A LAND USE SITUATION. RIGHT. UM, KIND OF MORE TO COUNCILMAN IAN AND COUNCIL MEMBER CHAEL'S POINTS. UM, WHAT I SEE IS A, A HUGE LOT OF GREENFIELD, WHICH WE HAVE VERY LITTLE OF LEFT IN THE CITY RIGHT ACROSS FROM THIS PROPERTY. I SEE A CORONER THAT IS EXTREMELY OVER PARKED AND US PUTTING SOMETHING, APPROVING SOMETHING VERY PERMANENT RIGHT THERE IN THE HEART OF THAT. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A GRADE AS FAR AS PRIVATE SCHOOLS GO, IT'S TOP CLASS, BUT IT MAY JUST NOT BE THE PRODUCT, SO TO SPEAK, THAT WE WANT AT THAT, IN THAT CORNER AT THIS MOMENT. UM, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I'M VIEW THIS AS. AND SO I'M INCLINED TO AGREE WITH, UH, MY TWO COLLEAGUES OVER THERE, THAT THAT'S REALLY THE, THE REASON TO LOOK AT THIS FROM A CRITICAL EYE. SO MAYOR, GIVEN ALL THAT DISCUSSION, I'D LIKE YOU HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE. DO WE WANT GET A SECOND? YEAH, I'D LIKE, WELL, LET ME REST, STATE THE MOTION. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. MOTION TO HOLD ON. YOU. YOU HAVE LET HIM FINISH, PLEASE. I, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DENY ZONING FILE 24 DASH TWO AS REQUESTED. OKAY. MR. DORY, I'LL SECOND THAT. OKAY. MR. BARROWS, YOU'RE WITHDRAWING YOUR MOTION TO, OKAY. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR OF DENIAL. RAISE YOUR HAND PLEASE. OKAY. OPPOSED? SHOW OF HAND, PLEASE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. PASSES, OR DOES [01:45:01] THE DIET FIVE TO ONE PLEASE. ALRIGHT, [8. CONSENT AGENDA] WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, OUR CONSENT AGENDA. MR. MAGNER? NO, I NEED A MOTION IS WHAT I NEED. I'M SORRY. MR. DORIAN, YOU WANNA GIVE A MOTION FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA, PLEASE? UH, YES. I WOULD, UH, LIKE TO MAKE A, A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA, UM, AS AS WRITTEN, MR. CHU. I'M SECONDED. ALRIGHT, WE GOT A MOTION TO SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? SHOW OF HANDS, PLEASE. PASSES UNANIMOUS THERE. ALRIGHT, [9. REPORT ON ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST] WE GO TO ITEM NUMBER NINE, REPORT ON ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST COUNSEL. ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING THEY'D LIKE TO SHARE? THERE WE GO. MR. HUTCHIN RUTER. UH, THREE THINGS JUST REALLY QUICKLY. NUMBER ONE IS, UH, WANNA THANK THE, UH, RICHARDSON ROTARY FOR THEIR CELEBRATION OF THEIR 85TH, UM, UM, YEAR. UM, HAD A, AN INCREDIBLE EVENING. UM, UH, HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET A, UH, LIVING, BREATHING ASTRONAUT SLASH NAVY SEAL, AND HE WAS QUITE INTERESTING. SO I WANT TO CONGRATULATE THEM ON WHAT THEY DID. I WANNA CONGRATULATE THE RICHARDSON SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA ON OUTSTANDING, UM, UM, FINAL PERFORMANCE. UM, THAT WAS SATURDAY EVENING AND A BIG SPECIAL THANK YOU TO, TO DON AND MCKAYLA AND TO THE WHOLE TEAM FOR THE, THE DINNER THAT PRECEDED THE, THE EVENT. AND THEN LASTLY, I NEED TO SAY THIS SO THAT I, UH, CAN GO HOME TONIGHT. IT IS MY WIFE'S BIRTHDAY TODAY, AND SO I JUST WANNA WISH HER A VERY, VERY, VERY HAPPY BIRTHDAY AND, UH, MANY MORE YEARS TO COME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. RIOS. SORRY, I GOTTA STOP LAUGHING 'CAUSE I GOT A HARD TIME FOR, UH, WISHING MY WIFE A HAPPY BIRTHDAY. HEY, I THOUGHT I'D JUST FALL SUIT MY FRIEND . UM, THIS PAST WEEK, WE, UH, WANNA TIP MY HAT TO CITY STAFF THAT WAS INVOLVED WITH THE SPRING NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERSHIP WORKSHOP. UH, LAST TUESDAY, UH, WE MET OVER AT THE SENIOR CENTER NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION PRESIDENTS AND, UM, GREAT TIME, UM, STAFF CAME OUT IN STRENGTH TO REALLY SHOW OUR NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS, UM, SERVICES AND TO CONNECT AND LET THE CITIZENS, UM, KNOW THAT, HEY, WE ARE, WE ARE OPEN AND AVAILABLE AND WE ARE HERE IF ANY OF ANYBODY EVER NEEDS TO REACH OUT. SO, I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE PUT IN A LOT OF EXTRA HOURS ON THAT. SO, DON, GREAT JOB TO YOU AND THE ENTIRE CITY STAFF THAT WERE INVOLVED IN THE PLANNING AND EXECUTION OF THAT EVENT. UM, ON THURSDAY, WE, UM, COUNCILMAN CORCORAN, MYSELF AND, UM, MAYOR PRO TEM HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT AT UT DALLAS ALONG WITH DART FOR THE DART LEADERSHIP'S BIANNUAL COMMITTEE MEETING, AN UPDATE ON, UH, FORT RICHARDSON REGARDING MASS TRANSPORTATION AND THE SILVER. WE GOT AN UPDATE ON SILVER LINES. LOTS OF GREAT THINGS HAPPENED THERE. LOTS OF GREAT QUESTIONS. UH, ONE OF UTDS BIGGEST, UH, MOST ACTIVE ORGANIZATIONS IS CALLED COMETS FOR BETTER TRANSIT. AND THEY WERE THERE IN FORCE AND ASKING GREAT QUESTIONS. UH, SO THEY WERE THERE CHALLENGING US ALL AND, UH, ASKED SOME REALLY GOOD QUESTIONS. SO SHOUT OUT TO THEM. UM, AND THAT, THAT'S IT FOR ME. THANK YOU DAN. MR. SHA. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. YEAH, I WAS SCRATCHING MY HEAD THAT WHAT DID WE REALLY DO LAST WEEK? , EVEN THOUGH I KNEW THAT I WAS BUSY, BUT, UH, NOW I REALIZE THAT, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY WAS THING WAS THERE? UH, ON 17TH, APRIL 17TH WEDNESDAY, UH, WE, WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND THAT. UM, THE EMERGING ARTIST RECEPTION, ART FESTIVAL, UH, YOU KNOW, THOSE PAINTING, THOSE ARTWORK WAS REALLY GREAT. GREAT. SO I PROB WE PROBABLY MADE SOME OF THE FUTURE FAMOUS ARTIST OVER THERE. SO CONGRATULATION TO ALL THE PARTICIPANT, NOT NECESSARILY THE ONE THAT WIN. I THINK EVERYONE WAS REALLY GREAT. UH, AND ON OTHER THINGS, YOU KNOW, LAST SATURDAY NIGHT I WENT TO AUSTIN, THEN SANTINO CAME BACK AND I REALIZED THAT TRAFFIC IS SO BAD THERE, AUSTIN. SO, UH, I, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO REACH OUT TO THEM, BUT HOPEFULLY THEY'LL DO SOMETHING BETTER. UH, I KNOW WE TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC HERE, BUT THEY ARE, I FEEL SO, YOU KNOW, SO HAPPY WHEN I SEE OTHERS AND SO BLESSED AND THANK YOU TO OUR CITY STAFF, UH, WORKING SO MUCH HARD. AND I PRAY FOR AUSTIN AND, UH, EVEN SAN ANTONIO. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING, [01:50:01] BUT, UH, HOPE THEY'RE DOING SOMETHING BETTER FOR THEM FUTURE. THANK, THANK YOU MR. DORIAN. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I JUST WANNA SAY DITTO TO WHAT EVERYONE SAID, BUT I'M GONNA ADD ONE THING. UM, WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR, UH, ONE OF OUR LEADERS, UH, IN THE INDUSTRY, UH, KIM QUIRK. I THINK THAT WAS OUR FINAL LEADERSHIP, UH, SERIES, UH, TO HEAR FROM LEADERS IN OUR INDUSTRY. UM, IT WAS VERY, VERY NICE AND, UM, IT'S BEEN NICE TO HEAR ALL OF THE LEADERS GET UP AND KIND OF GIVE US A LITTLE BACKGROUND OF WHO THEY ARE AND, AND, AND HOW THEY GOT WHERE THEY ARE TODAY. SO I JUST WANT TO SHOUT THAT OUT FOR KIM QUIRK. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALRIGHTY. I GUESS THAT'S IT, UNLESS, IS THERE ANY VISITORS, ANYTHING ELSE NEED TO BE REPORTED? OKAY. NO. AND WE [EXECUTIVE SESSION ] COUNSEL WILL NOW CONVENE IN A CLOSED EXECUTIVE SESSION IN COMPLIANCE WITH SECTION 5 5, 1 0 7 1, 1, AND TWO IN SECTIONS 5, 5, 1 0 8, 7 1, AND TWO OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE TO DISCUSS THE FOLLOWING, CONSULT CONSULTATION WITH CITY ATTORNEY REGARDING DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. BY AND BETWEEN J-B-K-B-S HOLDINGS, LLC AND THE CITY OF RICHARDSON, DATED APRIL 29TH, 2015, DELIBERATION REGARDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS, COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, EAST ARAPAHOE ROAD, NORTH GREENVILLE AVENUE AREA. THE TIME IS NOW 7 51. THANK YOU. SORRY. COME BACK. SEVEN, EIGHT. YES, LET'S COME BACK AT EIGHT O'CLOCK. RECONVENE. [RECONVENE INTO REGULAR SESSION] COUNSEL WILL RECONVENE INTO OPEN SESSION AT 9:12 PM AND TAKE ACTION ON MATTERS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. MR. HUTCHIN, WRITER, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? YES, MAYOR, I MOVE THE CITY MANAGER TO SEND NOTICE TO JP DASH KBS HOLDINGS THAT THE, THAT THE CITY CONSIDERS THE DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BY AND BETWEEN JP DASH KBS HOLDINGS, LLC AND THE CITY OF RICHARDSON, DATED APRIL 29TH, 2015, BETTER KNOWN AS THE PALISADES AGREEMENT VOID. AND THE CITY DOES NOT INTEND TO MAKE ANY PAYMENTS PURSUANT TO THE AGREEMENT. I'VE GOT A MOTION. MR. BARRIOS. YOU HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND THAT. ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? SHOW OF HANDS, PLEASE. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. SO WITH NO FURTHER ACTION, IT IS 9:13 PM AND THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.