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GOOD EVENING.

[CALL TO ORDER]

I CALL THIS MEETING OF THE RICHARDSON CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER AT 6:00 PM THIS TIME WE'RE GONNA ASK COUNCILWOMAN JENNIFER JUSTICE TO LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE AND THE PRAYER.

THANK YOU.

PLEASE JOIN ME IN PRAYER.

AS YOU'RE COMFORTABLE.

GOD, WE ASK YOU TO FILL OUR CITY, STATE, AND NATIONAL GOVERNMENT LEADERS WITH WISDOM, UNDERSTANDING, DISCERNMENT AND KNOWLEDGE.

AMEN.

AMEN.

AMEN.

AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO INVITE DARREN HOYT UP TO THE PODIUM, UH, BOY SCOUT TO LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE, UH, FOR THE US AND TEXAS, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE TEXAS PLEDGE.

HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.

THANK YOU, DARREN.

THANK YOU.

THIS TIME GO TO

[3. MINUTES OF THE JUNE 10, 2024 MEETING]

ITEM THREE MINUTES OF THE JUNE 10TH, 2024 MEETING.

I'D LIKE TO HAVE ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE MR. SCHUEL.

I PUT A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MEETING MINUTES AS IT IS WRITTEN.

THANK YOU, MR. DORIAN.

I'LL SECOND THOSE.

WE GOT A MOTION.

AND SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? SHOW OF HANDS, PLEASE.

THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

SIX OH.

ALL RIGHTY.

WE'RE GONNA GO TO PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS AND VISITORS FORUM.

MR. MAGNER.

UH, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

WE ARE NOT IN RECEIPT OF ANY CARDS IN ADVANCE OF THE 5:00 PM DEADLINE, SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO CITY SECRETARY TO SEE IF THERE ARE ANY SPEAKERS.

NO CARDS, MAYOR.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

AT THIS TIME, WE'RE GONNA CHANGE THE ORDER OF OUR AGENDA ITEM.

WE'RE GONNA MOVE

[9. PUBLIC HEARING, ZONING FILE 24-08, A REQUEST TO AMEND THE PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR A 13.03-ACRE DEVELOPMENT LOCATED BETWEEN WATERVIEW PARKWAY AND PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH HIGHWAY, EAST OF FRANKFORD ROAD, TO ALLOW STUDENT-PURPOSE BUILT APARTMENTS ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY IN LIEU OF APARTMENTS AND AMENDMENTS TO THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS]

ITEM NUMBER NINE UP TO B NUMBER FIVE IN THIS SITUATION, UH, DEALING WITH PUBLIC HEARING ZONING FILE 24 DASH OH EIGHT A REQUEST TO AMEND THE PD PLAN DEVELOPMENT FOR A 13.03 ACRE DEVELOPMENT LOCATED BETWEEN WATERVIEW AND PARKWAY AND PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH AND MR. MAGNER.

YOU WANNA EXPLAIN MORE PLEASE? THANK YOU, MAYOR.

EARLIER TODAY, WE WERE NOTIFIED BY THE APPLICANT THAT THE KEY MEMBER OF THEIR TEAM, UH, WAS UNABLE TO TRAVEL DUE TO, UH, UH, AN ILLNESS, UH, WAS COMING IN FROM OUTTA TOWN AND WAS NOT ABLE TO TRAVEL VIA PLANE AS A RESULT OF, UH, THE, UH, SITUATION HE WAS DEALING WITH.

UM, WE DID, UH, HAVE A REQUEST FROM THE APPLICANT TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, UNTIL JULY 15TH, 2024.

SO, THAT'S, UH, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TONIGHT, IF YOU DECIDE TO DO THAT, WHAT WE WOULD NEED TO DO IS OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

UH, MAYOR, YOU CAN ASK ANYONE WHO'S HERE TODAY TO SPEAK IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT, OR THEY COULD WAIT UNTIL JULY 15TH WHEN THE, WHEN THE CONTINUANCE IS, UH, TAKEN UP AGAIN.

UM, AND, UH, THEN THERE'S A MOTION, UH, AT YOUR PLACE IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THAT, TO, UH, TO, TO, TO ACCOMMODATE THE REQUEST FROM THE APPLICANT.

OKAY.

SO WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME, AND LET ME REITERATE TO ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO'S WANTING TO SPEAK.

UH, YOU MAY SPEAK TONIGHT IF YOU CHOOSE TO, OR YOU MAY SPEAK AGAIN AT THE LATER DATE, OR YOU MAY SPEAK NOW AND THEN, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU CHOOSE TO DO.

SO, MS. ER, DO WE HAVE ANY CARDS? I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY CARDS, MAYOR.

ALRIGHT.

IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK WHO HAS NOT COMPLETED A CARD? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE.

COULD WE GET A MOTION, MR. HUTCHER RIDER, TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? NO.

OR TO CONTINUE? NO, I'M SORRY.

SO, I MOVED TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ZONING FILE 24 DASH ZERO EIGHT TO THE JULY 15TH, 2024 CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO BE HELD AT CITY HALL AT 6:00 PM ALRIGHT, WE GOT A MOTION, MS. JUSTICE.

SECOND.

GOT A MOTION TO SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? SHOW OF HANDS, PLEASE.

PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I WOULD JUST, UH, MAKE NOTE, UH, THAT, UH, WHEN, UH, WE TAKE THIS MATTER UP AGAIN, CITY STAFF WILL BE, UH, PRESENTING ITS, UH, PRESENTATION.

THE APPLICANT WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT AS WELL, AND THEN YOU CAN TAKE YOUR PUBLIC, UH, INPUT FROM THE, THE HEARING.

PERFECT.

ALRIGHTY, WE'LL

[5. REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE MAY 28TH STORM DAMAGE RECOVERY EFFORTS AND DEBRIS REMOVAL SCHEDULE]

GO NOW TO ITEM TRUE NUMBER, ITEM NUMBER FIVE, REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE MAY 28TH STORM DAMAGE RECOVERY EFFORTS AND DEBRIS REMOVAL SCHEDULE.

MR. MAGNER.

UH, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UM, THIS IS, UH, AN IMPORTANT TIME FOR US TO CHECK IN AND PROVIDE A STATUS REPORT ON OUR RECOVERY EFFORTS.

AS YOU RECALL, BACK ON JUNE 3RD, WE, UH, RAN THROUGH A WHOLE SERIES OF TOPICS, UH, THAT, UH, REALLY CAPTURED THE FIRST TWO WEEKS OF OUR RESPONSE TO THE STORM.

I BELIEVE WE HAVE, UM, REALLY BEGAN TO UNDERSTAND THE SITUATION BETTER AND REFINE OUR STRATEGY.

AND SO WE WANTED TO PRESENT THAT TO YOU AND FOR THE COMMUNITY.

TONIGHT, JUST, UH, A, UM, UPDATE WITH RESPECT TO, UH, THE DEBRIS COLLECTION, WHICH IS THE PRIMARY FOCUS OF THE RECOVERY.

AT THIS

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TIME, YOU CAN SEE, UH, WE'RE NOW UP TO, UH, 91,000 CUBIC YARDS OF, UH, DEBRIS COLLECTED.

AND JUST, UH, KIND OF, TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF WHAT THAT MEANS ON A DAILY AVERAGE.

OVER THE LAST 14 DAYS, WE'VE COLLECTED ABOUT 6,500 CUBIC YARDS.

UM, YOU CAN SEE A NORMAL JUNE, UH, WITH OUR BAIC COLLECTIONS WOULD BE ABOUT 1200 CUBIC YARDS.

AND SO EVERY SINGLE DAY, OVER THE LAST 14 DAYS, WE'VE, UH, COLLECTED SOMEWHERE AROUND, UH, THREE TO FOUR TIMES, UM, IF NOT EVEN MORE IN CERTAIN DAYS, THE AMOUNT OF, UH, DEBRIS THAT WE WOULD, WE WOULD CAPTURE IN A MONTH.

AND WE'RE DOING THAT, UH, WITH, UH, THE HAULERS THAT YOU SEE, UH, CANVASSING, THE, THE COMMUNITY.

UH, THOSE VEHICLES HAVE FOUR TIMES THE CAPACITY OF OUR BAIC TRUCKS.

UM, AND, UM, SO WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE THAT CONTRACT IN PLACE AND TO HAVE THEM AS A PARTNER THROUGHOUT THIS, UH, RECOVERY.

UM, THIS MAP SHOULD LOOK FAMILIAR TO YOU.

WE FIRST, UH, RELEASED IT LAST WEEK.

UM, WHAT YOU SEE, UH, AS AN ADDITION IS, UH, THE GRAY HATCHED AREAS.

THERE ARE AREAS THAT WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH AND HAVE COMPLETED, UH, THE COLLECTION.

UM, YOU NOW SEE, UH, THE CURRENT WORK AREAS THAT WE, UM, WERE IN, AND THEN AGAIN, UH, AREAS THAT WE BELIEVE WILL BE INTO, UH, WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK, TWO WEEKS AND THREE WEEKS.

I I DO WANT TO, UH, ACKNOWLEDGE THAT, UH, THE COLLECTION HAS GONE SLOWER THAN, THAN WE ANTICIPATED.

UH, THE VOLUME OF DEBRIS THAT WE'RE COLLECTING AT EACH STOP, UM, IS MORE THAN THAN WE INITIALLY THOUGHT, AND THAT HAS SLOWED US, UH, GETTING THROUGH, UH, EACH OF, UH, THESE AREAS.

NOW, I'LL REMIND YOU, WE'RE WORKING SEVEN DAYS A WEEK FROM 7:00 AM TO TO 8:00 PM AND THE CREWS ARE DOING AN AMAZING JOB.

IT'S SIMPLY THE AMOUNT OF DEBRIS THAT'S ACTUALLY NECESSITATED US TO KIND OF UPDATE OUR ESTIMATE, UM, FROM ABOUT 150,000 CUBIC YARDS TO ANYWHERE UP TO 200,000 PERHAPS.

SO AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE FOUR TIMES WHAT WE COLLECTED, UH, THROUGHOUT THE TORNADO.

UM, I, I REALLY WANNA ENCOURAGE RESIDENTS TO CONTINUE TO TRACK THIS.

WE'LL BE UPDATING THIS EVERY MONDAY.

UM, SO, UH, WE CAN REALLY SEE THE PROGRESS.

BUT AGAIN, FROM THIS POINT FORWARD NOW THREE WEEKS INTO, UH, THE RECOVERY, IT MAY BE AN ADDITIONAL THREE WEEKS BEFORE WE'RE ABLE TO GET TO, UH, THE AREAS IN GREEN.

AND SO NOW WE'RE ESTIMATING ANYWHERE FROM SIX TO EIGHT WEEKS, UM, THAT IT'LL TAKE FOR THE FULL, UH, RECOVERY PROCESS.

UH, ON THE DEBRIS, DEBRIS FRONT.

UM, I DID WANT TO, TO TO SPEAK WITH YOU ABOUT THE, UH, COST ASSOCIATED WITH THE RECOVERY.

UM, BASED ON THAT 150,000 TO 200,000 CUBIC YARDS AT, UH, ALL IN COST OF ABOUT $16, $16 A CUBIC YARD.

WE'RE NOW ESTIMATING, UH, THE DEBRIS REMOVAL COULD BE ANYWHERE FROM 2.4 TO $3.4 MILLION, JUST DEPENDING ON THE ACTUAL, UH, FINAL, UH, TOTALS.

UM, YOU SEE THERE ARE ABOUT 350 TO PERHAPS AS MUCH AS $500,000 IN STAFF TIME.

UM, WE'RE IN OUR SECOND PAYROLL, UH, PROCESSING FOR THAT INITIAL RESPONSE, THOSE FIRST TWO WEEKS.

SO WE'LL HAVE A REALLY BETTER GRASP ON THAT, UH, BY WEEKS.

AND, UH, DON'T ANTICIPATE MUCH MORE IN, IN OVERTIME, EXCEPT PERHAPS IN, IN OUR SOLID WASTE, UH, AREA WHERE, UH, BABBITT CREWS CONTINUE TO AUGMENT, UM, THE, UH, DEBRIS HAULER, BUT ALSO CAN CONTINUE TO, UH, BEGIN COLLECTING, UM, DEBRIS, UH, UH, DEBRIS OTHER THAN, UH, UM, VEGETATION IN THE BAIK AREAS.

UH, AS WE, AS WE GO THROUGH THOSE NOW, UH, EVEN TODAY, UH, THE MONDAY SERVICE AREA RECEIVING, UH, BAIC SERVICE.

UM, AND THEN, UH, OTHER EXPENSES, THINGS LIKE, UH, REPLACEMENT SIGNS, UM, ALL, ALL THE KINDS OF, UH, THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, DURING THE LAST BRIEFING THAT WE HAD TO GO BACK AND AND ADDRESS.

UM, SO THE TOTAL, UH, UH, FOR THIS, UH, RE RECOVERY HERE COULD BE ANYWHERE FROM ABOUT $2.8 MILLION TO $4 MILLION.

UM, WE HAVE THAT AND ARE UTILIZING RESERVE FUNDING FOR THAT.

THESE ARE, THIS IS OUR RESERVE THAT IS BUILT, UH, YEAR OVER YEAR WITH, UH, YEAR END SAVINGS.

UM, YOU KNOW, A BIG PART OF THAT IS THAT, THAT, UH, DURING OUR FOURTH QUARTER BUDGET REPORT, I'LL COME BACK TO YOU WITH A PLAN, UH, GENERALLY AROUND ONE-TIME PURCHASES OR CAPITAL PURCHASES.

UH, WE ALWAYS RESERVE SOME OF THOSE DOLLARS FOR SITUATIONS LIKE THIS.

UM, THAT BEING SAID, WE ARE VERY MUCH GOING TO SEEK, UH, REIMBURSEMENT FROM FEMA.

UM, BUT, UH, TO BE QUITE FRANK, IT DOESN'T LOOK VERY GOOD FOR US.

UH, THERE'S REALLY TWO STEP PROCESS.

ONE IS THAT YOU HAVE TO, UH, IT'S A FEDERAL PROCESS THAT YOU HAVE TO, UH, ACCOMPLISH BOTH A FEDERAL AND THEN A COUNTY THRESHOLD OF DAMAGE.

UM, YOU SEE THE STATE, UH, THRESHOLD THERE, UH, 53,000 AND RECALL, UM, THIS TWO EVENTS.

THERE WAS THE COLLIN EVENT, UM, THAT BEGAN WITH THE TORNADOES UP IN THE SALINA AREA AND WAS CONTINUED.

AND THEN THIS STORM EVENT, UH, THAT, UH, UH, RESULTED IN THE DEC DALLAS COUNTY DECLARATION.

UM, WE WERE ABLE TO MEET THE STATE, UM, UM, THRESHOLD.

BUT, UH, YOU CAN SEE WELL INTO THE RECOVERY HERE.

UH, ONLY MEETING ABOUT 10% OF THE COLLIN COUNTY THRESHOLD.

UM, AND THEN AGAIN, UH, ABOUT, UH, RIGHT AT 60% OR SO OF THE DALLAS COUNTY THRESHOLD.

NOW, THIS IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW, THIS IS PUBLIC, PREDOMINANTLY

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PUBLIC AND NON-PROFIT DAMAGE.

SO THIS ISN'T REFERRING TO DAMAGE THAT OCCURRED TO PRIVATE PROPERTY THAT'S INSURED, THAT'S BOTH COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL.

THAT'S A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SITUATION.

SO WHAT WE HAVE TO PROVE UP IS THAT THERE WAS, UH, 12 MILLION PLUS DOLLARS OF DAMAGE IN DALLAS COUNTY TO PUBLIC PROPERTY OR TO NON-PROFIT PROPERTY.

AND, UM, OF COURSE, THAT'S THE IMPORTANCE OF THE REPORTING THAT WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT DURING THESE TIMES.

THESE ARE SELF-REPORTED.

UM, AND SO, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE JUST NOT SEEING THAT YET.

UM, WE NEED TO GET TO A HUNDRED PERCENT, UH, BOTH IN COLIN AND, UH, DALLAS COUNTY TO, UH, HAVE A CHANCE OF RECUPERATING, UH, AS MUCH OF THAT $4 MILLION AS THAT, UH, THAT I MENTIONED AS WE CAN.

SO WE HAVE THROUGH, UH, JULY 5TH, ALL OF THE, UH, IMPACTED CITIES AND, AND A, UH, OTHER, UM, UH, GOVERNMENTAL AGENCIES HAVING TO, TO JULY 5TH TO DO THAT.

AND SO WE CONTINUE TO ENCOURAGE OUR OWN RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES, BUT ALSO WORKING WITH OUR, OUR, OUR, OUR, UM, ADJACENT CITIES AND CITIES THAT WERE IMPACTED TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO DO THAT AS WELL IN AN ATTEMPT TO, TO ACHIEVE THAT.

UM, ON THE, UH, PRIVATE, UH, FRONT, I DID, UH, WANT TO COVER A COUPLE OF SLIDES HERE.

'CAUSE I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT OUR COMMUNITY REALLY UNDERSTANDS WHAT'S AVAILABLE TO 'EM.

WE HAD THE, UH, FE, UH, THE, UH, FEMA DISASTER, UM, SURVIVOR ASSISTANCE CREWS, UH, COME THROUGH RICHARDSON STARTING ON, UH, JUNE, UH, THE, UH, THE NINTH.

AND, UH, THESE CREWS, UM, REALLY KIND OF, UH, ARE THE, UH, TRIGGER, IF YOU WILL, TO A LOT OF THIS FEMA, UM, UM, SUPPORT BEING KICKED INTO PLACE.

THE, THE BASIS OF THEIR ASSESSMENT, UM, IS, UH, WHAT ALLOWS FOR, AND, UH, MANY OF THESE TRIGGERS TO, TO BE ACTIVATED.

UH, THAT'S WHAT RESULTED IN THE DISASTER RECOVERY CENTER, UH, THE FEMA DISASTER RECOVERY CENTER, UH, BEING SET UP AT THE NETWORK, REPLACING, UM, THE, UH, CENTER THAT WE HAD ESTABLISHED EARLY ON.

THEY TRIED TO PROVIDE ASSISTANCE, UM, THAT, UH, DRC HAS NOW OPEN SEVEN DAYS A WEEK FROM 7:00 AM TO 7:00 PM THE SMALL BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION HAS JOINED FEMA BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT, LOT OF RESOURCES THAT THEY CAN OFFER TO OUR BUSINESSES AND OUR RESIDENTS DURING THIS TIME.

SO, JUST REAL QUICKLY, UM, THERE, THERE'S A VARIETY OF THINGS, AS I MENTIONED.

SO THE INDIVIDUAL ASSISTANCE, UH, UH, RENTAL IN RENTAL ASSISTANCE, AND THIS IS, UH, RENTAL HOUSING, UM, IF DE IF DISPLACED BECAUSE THE, UH, THE HOME WAS DAMAGED.

AND, UH, THIS COULD BE FOR RENTERS OR FOR HOMEOWNERS.

AND SO, UH, BOTH, UH, AGAIN, HOME REPAIR REPLACEMENT.

AND THIS IS, UH, UM, MONEY THAT CAN BE USED TO, UH, MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO YOUR, TO THE, TO THE STRUCTURE IF IT'S DAMAGED.

UH, THINGS LIKE ACCESSIBILITY NEEDS, UH, FOR, FOR, UM, UH, SURVIVORS WITH A DISABILITY THAT HAVE SPECIFIC NEEDS BECAUSE OF THAT, UM, DISABILITY TO THEIR HOME, IF, IF THAT WAS DAMAGED.

UM, UH, SERIOUS NEEDS, THINGS LIKE FOOD, WATER, BABY FORMULA, AVAILABLE, PERSONAL PROPERTY.

UM, AGAIN, SO THIS COULD BE BOTH, UH, FOR ANYONE RENTING OR, UH, WHO OWNS A HOME THAT HAD PERSONAL PROPERTY DAMAGE, UH, ASSOCIATED WITH THE STORM, UM, UH, MEDICAL AND DENTAL CHILDCARE ASSISTANCE.

UM, AND, UH, THINGS LIKE TRANSPORTATION FOR DA VEHICLES THAT WERE DAMAGED.

WE, WE SAW MUCH EVIDENCE OF THAT.

UM, AND THEN MOVING EXPENSES, UM, AND STORAGE EXPENSES, UH, FOR, UH, THOSE THAT HAVE TO, UM, UH, RELOCATE OR, OR PERHAPS TEMPORARILY STORE ALL OF THESE, UH, UH, SUPPORT STRATEGIES NOW AVAILABLE THROUGH FEMA RIGHT THERE AT THE NETWORK, UH, TO OUR RESIDENTS AND OUR BUSINESS OWNERS.

I MENTIONED THE SMALL BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION, THEY'RE AVAILABLE THERE AS WELL.

UM, YOU SEE THE LOANS FOR HOMEOWNERS OR RENTERS, AGAIN, TO REPLACE, UH, DISASTER, UH, DAMAGE REAL ESTATE AND PERSONAL PROPERTY, UH, BUSINESS PHYSICAL DAMAGE.

SO BUSINESSES THAT EXPERIENCE DAMAGE TO, UM, UH, THEIR IMPROVEMENTS OR, OR THEIR STRUCTURES, UM, ARE AVAILABLE FOR ASSISTANCE.

BUT THEN ECONOMIC INJURY, DISASTER LOAN.

SO THIS IS THIS BUSINESS INTERRUPTION LOAN, UM, THAT YOU OFTEN HEAR ABOUT.

SO MAYBE NO PHYSICAL DAMAGE, BUT BECAUSE THEY WERE OUT WITHOUT POWER FOR A WEEK AND THEY HAD LOSSES AND THEY, THEY HAD LOST INCOME AND, AND OTHER, UH, ASSET LOSSES AS A RESULT OF THAT WOULD BE ELIGIBLE AS WELL.

AND SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO PROMOTE THIS.

IT'S A, IT'S A REAL, UM, ADVANTAGE TO HAVE THE, THE FEMA DISASTER RECOVERY CENTER RIGHT HERE IN RICHARDSON FOR DALLAS COUNTY AND THE NETWORK.

AND WE REALLY WANNA ENCOURAGE OUR RESIDENTS, UH, TO TAKE ADVANTAGE AS OF THESE, UH, RESOURCES AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

UM, I, UH, PLAN ON PROVIDING AN UPDATE, UH, AT OUR JULY 8TH MEETING, WHICH WILL BE THE NEXT TIME THE COUNCIL CONVENES, UH, AFTER THE SUMMER BREAK.

UH, BY THEN, UH, WE SHOULD HAVE, UM, UH, PROBABLY A PRETTY GOOD SENSE IF WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE REIMBURSED FOR ANY OF THESE WITH THE JULY 5TH DEADLINE, UH, FOR THE REPORTING AND OF THE STORM MIXED DAMAGE.

SO I'LL HAVE AN UPDATE ON THAT.

AND THEN WE'LL ALSO HAVE AN UPDATE ON OUR, UH, DEBRIS RECOVERY.

BUT, UH, MAYOR, I'LL, UH, BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

BUT, UH, THAT'S THE, MY FULL REPORT.

COUNSEL, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? MR. MAGNER? THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT.

HAVE GOOD, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THIS TIME, WE'LL

[6. REVIEW AND DISCUSS NEW RICHARDSON CITY HALL DESIGN PROGRESS]

GO TO ITEM NUMBER SIX, REVIEW AND DISCUSS NEW RICHARDSON CITY HALL DESIGN PROGRESS.

MR. MAGNER.

GREAT MAYOR.

UH, WE ARE VERY EXCITED TO, UH, PRESENT, UH, THIS, UH, UH, BRIEFING TONIGHT TO YOU.

IT'S A BIG STEP IN THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT OF THE CITY HALL CAMPUS AND THE BUILDING ITSELF.

UH, OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, CHARLES GOFF, IS GONNA LEAD THE BRIEFING, BUT I ALSO

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WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE, UH, ANN EMEL FROM A TEXAS, UH, PEN CAR FROM AECOM.

AND OF COURSE, BRIAN, UH, NICODEMUS FROM ACOM IS ACOM AS WELL.

UH, IT'S REALLY THIS TEAM, UH, AND ALL OF THE WORK THAT THEY'VE DONE, UM, HOURS ON END OF TALKING TO OUR STAFF, UH, TAKING PUBLIC INPUT THAT REALLY RESULTED, UH, IN, UH, THESE AMAZING IMAGES THAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE TONIGHT.

SO WHAT WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FOR TONIGHT IS CONFIRMATION THAT WE'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK.

UM, IF, IF WE RECEIVE THAT, WE'LL BE ABLE TO LAUNCH AND REALLY BEGIN TO, UH, GET INTO THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.

UH, THAT'LL KEEP US ON TRACK FOR HOPEFULLY A, UH, A GROUNDBREAKING LEADER THIS YEAR.

AND, UH, CONSTRUCTION STARTING.

SO, CHARLES, THANKS TO YOU AND THE WHOLE TEAM FOR, UH, GETTING US HERE TO THIS POINT.

AND I'LL TURN OVER TO YOU FOR FURTHER BRIEFING.

SURE.

THANKS, DON.

UH, AND GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

UH, AS DON MENTIONED, WE'RE EXCITED TO BE HERE, UH, WITH YOU TONIGHT TO SHARE OUR PROGRESS ON THE DESIGN OF NEW CITY HALL.

UM, SINCE OUR LAST UPDATE IN FEBRUARY, UM, UH, WE HAVE A LOT TO COVER TONIGHT, BUT JUST, UH, WE'RE GONNA START WITH A LITTLE BIT OF A REMINDER ABOUT THE PROJECT, UM, AN OVERVIEW OF THE MUNICIPAL CAMPUS AND WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.

THEN GET INTO CITY HALL, UH, BOTH THE EXTERIOR DESIGN AS WELL AS THE INTERIOR, UH, LAYOUT AND DESIGN.

UM, TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SUSTAINABLE DESIGN ELEMENTS THAT WE ARE INCLUDING IN THE PROJECT SINCE THAT WAS, UH, A PRIORITY OF THE COMMUNITY.

UM, AND THEN, UH, REVIEW THE BUDGET AND THEN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE AND TAKE ANY FEEDBACK.

SO, UH, GETTING STARTED HERE, THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES.

WE'VE HAD THESE, UH, IN EVERY PRESENTATION SINCE THEY WERE FINALIZED.

NOT GONNA GO THROUGH 'EM, BUT JUST HERE FOR REFERENCE IN CASE, UH, WE NEED TO GO THROUGH THEM AT, AT, AT SOME POINT IN THE CONVERSATION.

UM, SIMILARLY, UH, THIS IS THE PROJECT SCHEDULE.

UH, THIS HAS NOT CHANGED, UH, EITHER SINCE, UH, WE LAST SPOKE IN FEBRUARY, EXCEPT THAT TODAY HAS OBVIOUSLY PROGRESSED, UH, FURTHER INTO, UH, THE PROJECTS.

UH, SO WE ARE, UM, UH, WRAPPING UP THE, THE DESIGN DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, SWITCHING INTO, UH, DEVELOPMENT OF CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS.

SO THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT CHECK IN TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK, UM, AS WE, AS WE MAKE THAT TRANSITION.

UH, AND WE STILL INTEND TO BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION, UM, SOMETIME THIS FALL.

SO, GETTING INTO THE MUNICIPAL CAMPUS, UM, THIS WILL LOOK VERY SIMILAR TO, UH, WHAT YOU SAW AT, AT THE LAST, UH, MEETING.

UH, AS WE DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY, UH, WE'RE SHOWING THAT CITY HALL IS MOVING FROM ITS CURRENT LOCATION, KIND OF IN THE CENTER, UH, OF THE CAMPUS, UP, UH, ACROSS THE NEW PLAZA FROM THE LIBRARY CLOSER TO, UH, ARAPAHO IN 75.

UM, THERE REALLY HAS JUST BEEN SOME, SOME VERY MINOR REFINEMENTS, UH, TO THIS.

THE OVERALL LAYOUT HAS NOT CHANGED AS WE'VE GOTTEN INTO LOOKING AT, AT GRADING AND A DA CONSIDERATIONS AND TREE SPECIES, THINGS LIKE THAT.

THERE'S BEEN A LITTLE BIT OF A, YOU KNOW, DETAIL HERE AND THERE THAT'S CHANGED.

BUT OVERALL, SAME, SAME PLAN YOU'VE SEEN, UH, PREVIOUSLY.

SO, CITY HALL, UH, EXTERIOR, UM, YOU SEE HERE, UH, IN 3D HOW THE NEW CITY HALL WILL RELATE TO THE LIBRARY.

UM, AND THEN BENEATH IT IN, IN KIND OF PROFILE VIEW, YOU SEE THE, UH, HEIGHT COMPARISON OF CITY HALL TO THE LIBRARY.

SO, UH, REMEMBER, LIBRARY IS, IS THREE STORIES ABOVE GRADE.

CITY HALL WILL ALSO BE THREE STORIES.

THEY'RE SLIGHTLY TALLER STORIES.

SO CITY HALL WILL END UP BEING ABOUT, UH, SEVEN FEET TALLER, UH, THAN, UH, THAN THE LIBRARY.

UH, WHEN WE LAST MET, UH, WE SHOWED YOU THE BUILDING FORMS, UH, BUT WE HAD NOT SELECTED BUILDING MATERIALS.

AND PART OF THE CONVERSATION BACK IN FEBRUARY WAS TRYING TO FINALIZE THAT BUDGET SO THAT, UH, WE KNEW, UM, UH, THE BUDGET TO THAT WE HAD TO, TO FINALIZE THE, THE BUILDING MATERIALS.

UM, AS WE, AS WE, UH, STARTED THOSE CONVERSATIONS, WE LOOKED AT MATERIALS THAT ARE, UM, CIVIC IN NATURE, UH, THAT ALIGN WITH OUR GOAL FOR THIS TO BE A VERY LONG-TERM STRUCTURE.

UM, THEY'RE DURABLE ENOUGH TO DO SO, UH, AND THAT ARE, UH, SIMILAR TO THE INSPIRATION IMAGES THAT THE COMMUNITY GRAVITATED TOWARDS, UH, WHEN WE DID OUR ROUNDS OF PUBLIC INPUT.

SO THOSE ARE THE TWO IMAGES, UH, IN THE BOTTOM, BOTTOM RIGHT CORNER OF THE SCREEN.

UM, AND THEN ALSO, AGAIN, SUSTAINABILITY WAS A CONSIDERATION.

SO WE WERE LOOKING FOR, UM, MATERIALS THAT HAD SUSTAINABLE PRINCIPLES, WHETHER THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY WERE LOCALLY SOURCED, OR THAT THEY, UH, HELPED US WITH THE ENERGY EFFICIENCY OF THE BUILDING.

SO, UH, HERE ON, AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SLIDE IS A LIST OF MATERIALS, BUT I'LL ADVANCE TO THE NEXT SLIDE TO KIND OF WALK YOU THROUGH, UH, WHAT THOSE ARE, UH, VISUALLY.

UM, SO IN THE, IN THE BOTTOM, UH, MIDDLE IMAGE AS WELL AS, UH, THE BOTTOM RIGHT IMAGE, YOU SEE A BRICK.

SO WE'RE PROPOSING, UH, A SLATE GRAY BRICK THAT HAS PROTRUDING BANDS.

YOU CAN SEE THE PROTRUDING BANDS IN THAT BOTTOM RIGHT, UH, IMAGE.

SO INSTEAD OF JUST BEING A FLAT APPLICATION, THERE'S, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A, OF AN UNDULATION THERE JUST TO, TO PROVIDE SOME TEXTURE AND SOME ALSO INTERESTING SHADOWS AND LIGHTING.

UH, WHEN THE LIGHT CATCHES, CATCHES THAT, UH, IN THE CENTER TOP, UH, IMAGE, YOU SEE, UM, FLUTED LIMESTONE, UH, WE ARE PROPOSING, UM, A VERTICAL FLUTED LIMESTONE PATTERN.

UM, AND THAT MEANS THAT IT'LL ARTICULATE IN AND OUT AS IT GOES AROUND.

UH, THE, UM, COUNCIL CHAMBERS, ONE OF THE, UM, GOALS, UH, THAT WE HEARD, AGAIN IN THE PUBLIC FEEDBACK WAS WHAT THEY WANTED, UM, THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS TO BE CELEBRATED, UH, ARCHITECTURALLY.

SO, UH, WE HAD THAT FLUTED LIMESTONE.

WE FIGURED THAT

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WOULD, UH, BE A NICE, UH, AGAIN, DURABLE, UH, ELEMENT, BUT ALSO THAT THAT POLLUTING WOULD CREATE SOME DRAMATIC SHADOWING AS THE LIGHT CHANGES, UH, ON, ON THE BUILDING THROUGHOUT THE DAY.

AND THEN AS YOU MOVE UP TO, UH, THE SECOND AND THIRD FLOORS, UH, UH, WE HAVE OUR PROPOSING PRE, UH, CAST CONCRETE PANELS, UH, WITH RE SOME RECESS PATTERNS, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IN SOME OF THE OTHER IMAGES, UH, ON THE SCREEN.

AND THEN LASTLY, UH, BLUE TINTED GLAZING.

UH, THAT'LL HAVE SOME SELECTED FRITTING.

YOU MAY RECALL, UH, FROM THE LIBRARY CONVERSATION THAT AS WE REMOVED THE CONCRETE BAND ON THE WESTERN FACING OR EASTERN FACING FACADE OF THE LIBRARY, WE'RE GONNA GO BACK WITH SOME FRITTED GLASS THAT'LL MIMIC THE TEXTURE THAT WAS ON THOSE CONCRETE BANDS.

SO, UH, WE'RE DOING THAT SELECTIVELY, UH, ON CITY HALL, JUST AS KIND OF A SUBTLE NOD, UH, TO THE LIBRARY AND KIND OF UNIFY THE DESIGN OF, OF THE CAMPUS.

SO, UM, THIS IS WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, UH, ON CITY HALL.

SO HERE'S A FEW RENDERINGS THAT WE'RE GONNA WALK THROUGH, JUST KIND OF AROUND THE BUILDING TO SHOW YOU WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE.

SO, UH, AGAIN, UH, THIS IS US BASICALLY STANDING WHERE CURRENT CITY HALL IS LOOKING, UH, TO THE NORTHEAST, UH, AT THE ENTRANCE OF CITY HALL.

SO, UH, YOU SEE ON THE FIRST LEVEL, UH, THOSE GRAY, UH, SLATE GRAY, UH, BRICKS.

UH, AND THEN, UM, AS YOU MOVE TO, UH, THE LEFT OF THE SCREEN, OVER HERE IS WHERE YOU START TO SEE THE COUNCIL CHAMBER WITH THOSE FLUIDED LIMESTONE BANDS.

UM, AND THAT, UM, ENDS IN THAT LARGE, UH, WESTERN FACING WINDOW THAT'LL GIVE, UH, PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS A NICE VIEW OF THE FOUNTAIN AND THE PLAZA.

AND THEN THAT HAS THE FRITTED, UH, GLASS, AS WELL AS THE, THE CLEAR STORY GLAZING, UH, AT THE TOP OF THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS, UH, WE'LL HAVE THAT GLAZING AS WELL.

AND THEN AS YOU MOVE, UH, TO THE STAIRWELL, AND UP ON THE SECOND FLOOR AND THIRD FLOOR, YOU SEE, UH, THE PRECAST, UH, CONCRETE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.

UM, THE OTHER DESIGN ELEMENT HERE IS, UH, ENTERING UNDER THIS, UM, COPPER CANOPY.

THAT'S ANOTHER KIND OF SUBTLE DESIGN REMINDER OF THE LIBRARY THAT WE'RE POSING, THAT HAS ALSO HAS A SIMILAR, UH, A COPPER, UH, AWNING AS WELL.

AND THEN AS YOU TAKE A STEP, UH, INTO THE PLAZA, SO RIGHT NOW YOU'RE BASICALLY STANDING RIGHT NEXT TO THE FOUNTAIN, LOOKING BACK TOWARDS, UH, 75, THIS IS YOUR VIEW, UH, KIND OF HEAD ON, UH, TO, UM, UH, TO CITY HALL.

AGAIN, YOU SEE THE, THE LARGE, UH, GLASS WINDOW INTO THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS FOR THAT FRITTED GLASS.

YOU SEE THE, UM, FRITTED, UH, LIMESTONE ON EITHER SIDE OF THAT.

AND THEN THE OTHER MATERIALS THAT WE, THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.

UH, AND JUST ANOTHER, ANOTHER KIND OF CALL OUT HERE RIGHT HERE IS KIND OF A PLACEHOLDER.

WE TALKED TO, THERE'D BE A PUBLIC ART ELEMENT IN, IN THE PLAZA AS WELL.

HAVEN'T FINALIZED THAT.

THAT'S A SEPARATE, UH, SELECTION PROCESS THAT YOU'LL BE BRIEFED ON, UM, UH, LATER.

BUT THIS IS JUST KIND OF A PLACEHOLDER TO SHOW YOU WHERE THAT ART WOULD GO, WHETHER IT'S ONE SCULPTURE OR MORE OF A SMALL SCULPTURE GARDEN.

STILL TO BE DETERMINED, BUT IT'D BE SOMEWHERE IN THAT GENERAL VICINITY.

AND THEN THIS IS THE VIEW, UH, KIND OF FROM, UH, ARAPAHOE OR STANDING, UH, IN LEADERSHIP GROVE, UH, LOOKING, UM, SOUTHEAST.

UH, THIS WOULD MOSTLY BE OBSCURED BY THE TREES IN LEADERSHIP GROVE, UH, HONESTLY, BUT WE'VE GRAYED THOSE OUT JUST SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE WHAT THE, THE, THE BUILDING LOOKS LIKE FROM THIS PERSPECTIVE.

AND I THINK THIS GIVES YOU A REALLY, UH, A NICE VIEW OF WHAT THAT FLUTED LIMESTONE LOOKS LIKE ON, UM, THE, THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS AS THE WESTERN FACING SUN.

AND THIS RENDERING HITS HIT AND CREATES SOME SHADOWING EFFECTS.

AND THEN LASTLY, UM, THE VIEW, UH, FROM NEAR 75, LOOKING BACK TOWARDS, UH, THE WEST, YOU SEE, UH, PARTICULARLY THE, THE SECOND AND, AND THIRD STORY ELEVATION OF WHAT YOU'D PROBABLY BE ABLE TO SEE FROM 75 AS YOU DRIVE BY WITH THAT GLAZING AND THOSE CONCRETE PANELS.

SO THAT'S THE EXTERIOR.

UM, CHARLES? YES.

YOU WANNA SEE? UH, OH, SURE.

YEAH, WE CAN YOU, YOU WANNA TALK IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THE INTERIOR EXTERIOR? POOR MOVE.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

MR. DORIAN.

THERE YOU GO.

YEAH.

THANK YOU, CHARLES.

THANK YOU.

GREAT PRESENTATION.

UM, I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS ON THE, UH, FRITTED, UH, LAMINATE GLASS.

IS, IS THAT JUST USED ON THE COUNCIL CHAMBER? YES.

THAT'S THE ONLY AREA WHERE IT, YES.

IS IT TEXTURED OR IS IT, IS IT JUST A FUSED, IS IT FLAT ON THE TOP? IT'S FLAT THERE.

THERE'S A, THERE'S A FRITTED LAYER IN BETWEEN THE LAYERS OF GLASS.

HAS THE PATTERN BEEN DETERMINED YET, OR, UH, I BELIEVE SO, YES.

'CAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE MATCHING WHAT, WHAT WE DID IN THE LIBRARY.

OKAY.

GOT IT.

AND ON THE, UH, STOREFRONT MATERIAL AND THE GLAZING, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GONNA DO, UH, LOW E HAS THAT BEEN SPECIFIED YET? HAVE WE GOTTEN TO THAT POINT? THIS MIGHT BE QUESTIONS FOR THEM TOO.

IF SO, JUST SAY, WAIT, I'LL SAVE THE QUESTION.

I BELIEVE I BELIEVE SO, YES.

ALL RIGHT.

IT, IT, IT, ALL OF THIS HAS TO PASS THE ENERGY CODE, WHICH WE'LL GET TO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY.

SO, UH, I, I WOULD IMAGINE SO, YES.

OKAY.

I'LL, I'LL ASK QUESTIONS LATER.

THANK YOU, MR. HUTCH RUDDER.

THANK YOU.

JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION.

MM-HMM.

, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE ONE MORE? RIGHT THERE? MM-HMM.

THE COPPER.

MM-HMM.

IS, IT, CAN, CAN YOU HELP UNDER HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT

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TYPE OF COPPER? AND MAYBE, MAYBE IT'S EASIER IF I ASK IT THIS WAY.

YOU KNOW, WHENEVER I'VE SEEN COPPER INSTALLED IN A BUILDING, IT LOOKS GREAT.

FIRST COUPLE OF YEARS, THEN IT STARTS TO TAKE ON THAT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU WANNA CALL IT, KIND OF THAT GREENISH YEAH.

THAT I, I, WHAT IS IT CALLED? A, UM, PATINA PATINA? THAT, THAT, THAT'S THE WORD I WAS LOOKING FOR.

SO I'M CURIOUS AS TO, YOU KNOW, LOOKS GREAT TODAY, BUT WHAT WILL IT LOOK LIKE IN THREE TO FIVE, SEVEN YEARS? SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.

I'M JUST CURIOUS HOW THAT WILL LOOK.

THIS IS ACTUALLY FAKE COPPER, SO THAT IT HOLDS THE COLOR AND DOES PATINA, YOU DIDN'T SAY THAT.

YOU JUST SAID IT WAS CER SO, SORRY, I DIDN'T .

I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THEN.

THERE YOU GO.

YEAH.

.

NO, NO, NO.

I WASN'T TRYING TO CALL YOU OUT.

I JUST WAS, YES.

SOUNDS GREAT.

THANKS.

YES.

MAINTAIN IT COLOR.

OKAY, MR. CHU.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

WELL, THANK YOU, CHARLES, FOR I, THE PRESENTATION.

I WAS REALLY, LOOK, LOOK FORWARD TO SEE THIS.

AND, BUT SINCE YOU SAYS A FAKE COPPER, THERE IS NOT REALLY FAKE COPPER.

THIS IS ALUMINUM, RIGHT? MOST LIKELY.

IS IT? THERE IS NO SUCH THING FAKE.

YES.

AND, UH, THE PURPOSE OF COPPER PUTTING THERE IS NOT REALLY, YOU KNOW, TO KEEP IT LIKE A COPPER NEW, THE WAY IT LOOKS LIKE WHEN THE COPPER IS NEW, WHEN SOMEONE PUT COPPER, THE POWER ACTUALLY TO GAIN THAT GREENISH THINGS OVER THE YEARS.

IT LOOKS REALLY GORGEOUS, UH, OVER THE YEARS.

BUT, NO, THIS IS GREAT.

NO, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR CLARIFICATION.

OKAY.

SO MOVE ON.

SURE.

SO MAYOR, SO CAN WE GET A CONFIRMATION THUMBS UP THAT WE'RE HEADING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND WE CAN PROCEED, MS. JUSTICE? OH YEAH, I WAS, YES.

YES.

I THINK A LOT OF PHONES .

ALRIGHT, SO SWITCHING TO THE INTERIOR, AND NOW AGAIN, THIS IS, THIS IS A, A SLIDE WE SHOWED YOU BACK IN FEBRUARY.

BUT JUST TO KIND OF RE ORIENT YOU TO, TO THE BUILDING, AS WE BEGIN TO LOOK AT SOME OF THE RENDERINGS, UH, OF THE BUILDING, UH, YOU'LL RECALL IT'S THREE STORIES.

UH, ON THE FIRST LEVEL, WE'VE, WE'VE, UH, TRIED TO PLACE AS MANY OF THE PUBLIC FACING AREAS OF THE BUILDING AS POSSIBLE.

SO, UM, THAT'S YOUR COUNCIL CHAMBERS, YOUR PUBLIC MEETING ROOMS. UM, WE ALSO HAVE WHAT WE'RE CALLING THE ONE-STOP SHOP.

SO THAT'S, UM, A LOT OF YOUR CUSTOMER FACING DEPARTMENTS, WHERE THAT'S WATER, CUSTOMER SERVICE, HEALTH BUILDING, INSPECTIONS, OR COMMUNITY SERVICES.

WE'LL HAVE AN AREA WITH A COUNTER WHERE YOU CAN GO AND, AND TALK TO REPRESENTATIVES FROM THOSE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE, UH, CONVENIENT, EASY TO, EASY TO FIND, UM, AND THEN AS WELL AS, UH, CVB AND, AND HUMAN RESOURCES.

AND THEN AS YOU MOVE, UH, TO THE SECOND AND THIRD, UH, LEVELS OF THE BUILDING, UH, OTHER DEPARTMENTS, UH, ARE LOCATED THERE.

THIS IS A MORE, UH, DETAILED, UH, VIEW OF, OF THE FIRST FLOOR, UH, PLAN.

I WON'T GO TO THIS IN, IN, IN TOO MUCH DETAIL, BUT JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT A FEW FEATURES, UH, HERE, AGAIN, JUST TO HELP YOU ORIENT YOURSELF AS YOU'RE SEEING SOME OF THE RENDERINGS.

SO, WALK IN, UH, HERE, UH, AT THE, THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE BUILDING.

ENTER THIS LOBBY WHERE YOU'RE FUNNELED.

UM, YOU RECALL, ONE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HEARD ABOUT OLD CITY HALL WAS YOU WALK IN AND IT'S NOT IMMEDIATELY APPARENT WHERE YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO GO.

SO HERE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE FUNNELED RIGHT TO THE CORNER WHERE THERE'S A RECEPTION AREA, UH, TO GUIDE YOU IF, IF YOU'RE UNFAMILIAR WITH WHERE YOU CAN GO.

UH, ON THE LEFT SIDE OF, OF THAT FUNNEL IS THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS.

AND THEN IMMEDIATELY BEHIND THAT, YOU WALK THROUGH THE REST OF THE LOBBY UP TO THESE ONE STOP SHOP, UH, COUNTERS, UH, WHERE YOU'LL, UH, CAN GO IN.

THERE'S A LITTLE PARTITIONED AREA THAT ALLOWS FOR SOME PRIVACY DEPENDING ON THE NATURE OF THE CONVERSATION.

YOU'RE SEATED, UH, AND YOU CAN SEE REPRESENTATIVES FROM, UH, THE RESPECTIVE DEPARTMENTS TO TALK ABOUT, AGAIN, WHETHER IT'S A BUILDING PERMIT OR HEALTH INSPECTION, OR PAYER WATER BILL, WHATEVER, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE.

UM, IF YOU'RE HERE FOR, UM, A MEETING IN THE RICHARDSON ROOM, UH, YOU COME IN, YOU TURN RIGHT AROUND HERE, YOU HAVE THIS WIDE CORRIDOR, UH, AND THEN YOU HAVE KIND OF THE NEW ENVISIONED RICHARDSON ROOM BE PARTITIONABLE.

SO IT CAN, IT CAN BE ONE LARGE ROOM, WHICH IS ABOUT, UM, UM, HALF AS LARGE, AGAIN AS, AS THE, UM, AS AS THE OLD RICHARDSON ROOM.

SO ABOUT ONE AND A HALF SIZE TIMES THE SIZE OF THE RICHARDSON ROOM.

UM, TWO ENTRANCES.

THE OTHER INTERESTING, UH, THING THAT, THAT WE WANTED TO DO WITH THE RICHARDSON ROOM, PARTICULARLY SINCE THIS IS OFTEN A, A VOTING LOCATION, AND WE WOULD EXPECT IT TO BE A VOTING LOCATION IN THE FUTURE, IS WE ADDED, UH, DOORS, UH, EXTERIOR DOORS, UH, SO THAT PEOPLE WOULDN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO QUEUE INSIDE THE BUILDING.

THEY COULD, THEY COULD COME, UM, THROUGH THOSE DOORS, UH, INTO, UH, THE VOTING, UH, AREAS.

UH, AND THERE'S A PARTITIONABLE SPACE, SO YOU COULD USE IT FOR DALLAS COUNTY AND, AND COLLIN COUNTY, UH, AS WELL.

UM, AND THEN, UM, IF YOU WANTED TO GO TO EITHER THE, THE THIRD OR SECOND OR THIRD FLOOR, AGAIN, COME IN THE LOBBY AND THERE'S AN ELEVATOR BANK, UH, RIGHT HERE, WHICH THEN AS WE SW SHIFT TO THE, THE SECOND FLOOR, AGAIN, THERE IS THE ELEVATOR HERE.

UH, YOU WOULD GET OUT, YOU WOULD TURN LEFT OUTTA THE ELEVATOR, AND YOU'RE IN THIS PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE LOBBY AREA.

UH, ON THE SECOND FLOOR, THERE'S A SIMILAR LOBBY AREA ON THE THIRD FLOOR WALK UP, UH, TO THOSE, UH, RECEPTION AREAS FOR THOSE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE ON THE THIRD, UH, THE SECOND FLOOR, UH, TO RECEIVE HELP.

UM, THERE ARE, UH, SOME, SOME MEETING ROOMS RIGHT OFF OF THE LOBBY AREAS

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IF YOU'RE HERE FOR A MEETING, OR YOU COULD BE PULLED BACK INTO THE SECURE STAFF AREA IF, IF NECESSARY.

THE OTHER THING TO POINT OUT ON THE SECOND FLOOR IS THERE IS A BREAK ROOM AND AN OUTDOOR PATIO.

THESE ARE NICE AMENITIES FOR STAFF AS WELL AS, UH, POTENTIAL GATHERING PLACES FOR CERTAIN COMMUNITY EVENTS.

UM, THINK ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, YOUR, YOUR CARES RECEPTIONS OR YOUR COMMUNITY REVITALIZATION, COMMUNITY REVITALIZATION AWARDS, UH, RECEPTIONS BE A NICE PLACE TO, TO GO HAVE THAT UP, UH, UP ON THE SECOND FLOOR OVERLOOKING THE PLAZA, THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO KIND OF A DUAL FEATURE, UH, THERE.

AND THEN A VERY SIMILAR ON THE THIRD FLOOR, AGAIN, ELEVATORS TURN TO YOUR LEFT, UH, RECEPTION AREA, UH, TO MEET WITH, TO MEET WITH STAFF OR, OR BE PULLED BACK INTO THE SECURE STAFF AREA.

SO, UM, AS, AS WE START TO, TO THINK ABOUT HOW WE, UH, APPROACH DESIGN TO THE INTERIOR SPACES, UH, WE HAVE THIS KIND OF NARRATIVELY DESCRIBED HERE, BUT I THINK IT'D BE HELPFUL TO, TO SKIP AHEAD TO, TO THE NEXT SCREEN, TO, TO, TO WALK YOU THROUGH IT.

UM, THE, THE DESIGN TEAM REALLY FOCUSED, UH, ON PULLING IN CUES, UH, FROM RICHARDSON'S BOTH LANDSCAPE, UH, AND, AND HISTORY.

UH, THEY DREW INSPIRATION FROM OUR PARKS AND, AND WILDFLOWERS, UH, TO CREATE A PALETTE THAT, UH, HAS A STRONG CONNECTION TO THE REGION'S NATURAL HERITAGE.

UM, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IN SOME OF THE INSPIRATIONAL IMAGES OF, OF THE WILDFLOWERS AND OF THE WATERFALL AND, AND SOME OF THE FEATURES IN OUR PARKS.

UM, AND THEN FROM A HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE, UM, TAKING INSPIRATION FROM, UM, THE MESQUITE WOODS AND THE NAVY BLUES THAT YOU CAN SEE IN, UH, THIS BOTTOM, UH, RIGHT PICTURE HERE, WHICH IS OF, UH, INTERURBAN RAIL CAR.

UH, SO KIND OF A TIEBACK TO, UH, OUR, OUR HISTORY WITH THE RAIL.

AND THEN SIMILARLY, UH, IN THIS PICTURE NEAR THE TOP, UH, THAT'S ACTUALLY A, A PICTURE OF A, A TI SEMICONDUCTOR PROCESS.

SO YOU SEE THOSE BLUES AND, AND NATURAL KIND OF WOOD BROWN HUES, UH, UP THERE, UM, TO, TO BE A NOD TOWARDS, UH, RICHARDSON'S PROMINENCE AS A, AS A, AS A TECHNOLOGY HUB.

AND THAT TRANSLATES INTO, UM, UH, THE, THE PALETTE OF, OF MATERIALS AND TEXTURES AND COLORS, UH, FOR CITY HALL, THAT THE PRIMARY PALETTE WOULD BE PREDOMINANTLY NEUTRAL, UH, WITH SOME OFFWHITE, UH, ZO, UM, WITH, UH, UH, CONCRETE AND, UM, KINDA WHITE PAINT, UH, TO BE THAT KIND OF CLEAN, TIMELESS, UH, FOUNDATION.

AND THEN YOU'D ADD IN, UM, THE BLUE, WHICH IS KIND OF SYNONYMOUS FOR RICHARD, BUT, BUT TRANSLATE INTO KIND OF A, A TIMELESS NAVY BLUE, MAYBE SOME DEEP GREENS TO, UH, AND NATURAL WOOD AND, AND, AND LEATHER TONES, UH, TO CREATE THAT SOPHISTICATED BLEND OF, OF WARM, UH, AND COOL, UH, TONES THAT AGAIN, TIE BACK TO, TO RICHARDSON'S, UH, HISTORY.

AND THEN BELOW ARE JUST SOME, SOME INSPIRATIONAL IMAGES OF, OF HOW THOSE, UH, COLORS AND MATERIALS, UH, PLAY TOGETHER TO, TO CREATE, UM, SOME PRETTY, UH, INVITING SPACES.

SO WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? UH, HERE, UH, IS A, UH, RENDERING OF, UH, WHEN YOU FIRST WALK INTO THE BUILDING, UH, INTO, UH, THE LOBBY.

UH, AND THERE'S A LOT GOING ON IN THIS PICTURE.

SO I'LL, I'LL KIND OF WALK YOU THROUGH IT.

UM, THE FIRST, JUST THE ON THE FLOOR, UH, TORASO WITH SOME, SOME, SOME BRASS, UH, ELEMENTS, UH, SOME, UM, SEAMS IN A PATTERN.

UM, THERE MIGHT BE SOME BLUE SPECKLED INTO TO THAT TERRAZZO.

AGAIN, JUST TO TIE IT BACK TO RICHARDSON AND THE BLUE, UH, ON THE CEILING, IT'S A, A COFFERED CEILING WITH SOME PET FELTS TO HELP WITH ACOUSTICS.

UH, THAT WOULD BE KIND OF AN OFF-WHITE JUST TO KIND OF FADE AWAY INTO THE BACKGROUND.

UM, ON EITHER SIDE OF, OF THE WALL, WHEN YOU FIRST WALK IN, YOU GET A GLIMPSE OF IT OVER ON THE, THE RIGHT SIDE OF THIS IMAGE.

UM, THERE WOULD BE, UM, UH, PECAN, UH, WOOD VENEERS THAT WOULD BE STAINED TO LOOK LIKE MESQUITE, AND IT WOULD HAVE THIS ORGANIC, UM, UH, PATTERN THAT IS A KIND OF A SUBTLE NOD TO THE TAPESTRIES THAT WERE IN, IN OLD CITY HALL.

UH, WE TRIED TO BE REALLY THOUGHTFUL IN, IN SOME SUBTLE WAYS TO, TO TIE BACK TO, UH, BOTH, UM, JUST RICHARDSON IN GENERAL, BUT ALSO OLD CITY HALL.

UH, AND IN SOME CASES, UH, THE LIBRARY, UH, AS WELL.

UH, SO THAT, THAT WOULD, UH, PANELING WOULD BE ON EACH SIDE AND KIND OF, AGAIN, HELP YOU FUNNEL INTO, INTO THE LOBBY.

UH, YOU SEE AN IMAGE OF THAT RECEPTION, UH, AREA, THAT WELCOME DESK.

AND THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE, YOU SEE THE, THE FLUTED LIMESTONE, UH, THAT WE WERE DOING ON THE EXTERIOR OF THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS.

WE'VE CONTINUED THAT INTERIOR, UH, ON THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS JUST TO, TO ELEVATE THAT LOOK AS WELL.

UH, AND THEN THESE ARE THE DOORS TO THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS.

AND THESE HAVE A, A REALLY, UH, INTERESTING ETCHED, UH, PATTERN.

UH, AND THAT'S A, A CALLBACK TO, UH, IF YOU RECALL THE ORIGINAL DOORS TO, UH, THE PUBLIC LIBRARY HAD THAT ETCHED DESIGN ON IT.

IT'S NOT THE SAME DESIGN, BUT IT'S, IT'S A SIMILAR, UH, KIND OF FEEL JUST REIMAGINED.

UM, AGAIN, AS A, AS A, AS A NICE CALLBACK TO, TO THE LIBRARY.

UH, AND THEN IN, IN THE, KINDA THE BACKGROUND OF THE IMAGE, UH, YOU SEE THERE'S THIS WALL OF FLAGS, UM,

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THAT IS, UM, KIND OF THE, THE NEW INTERPRETATION OF THE INTERNATIONAL FLAGS THAT WE HAD ON THE SECOND FLOOR OF CITY HALL.

AGAIN, REPRESENTING ALL OF THE, THE BUS, THE INTERNATIONAL BUSINESSES THAT ARE HEADQUARTERED IN RICHARDSON WOULD BE REPRESENTED THERE.

THEY'LL HAVE A SKYLIGHT ABOVE IT, SO THEY'LL BE WASHED AND SOME NATURAL LIGHT, UH, AND SOME PLANTERS BENEATH IT TO ADD SOME, SOME GREENERY.

AND THEN IN THE VERY BACK OF THE IMAGE, UH, YOU CATCH A GLIMPSE OF THE ONE-STOP SHOP.

SO AGAIN, YOU WALK IN AND YOU CAN IMMEDIATELY SEE, UH, THE ONE-STOP SHOP WITH SOME SIGNAGE ABOVE, UH, FOR THE DEPARTMENT.

SO AGAIN, IT'S VERY EASILY NAVIGABLE FOR, UH, PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING IN AND WANTING TO DO BUSINESS WITH, WITH THE CITY.

UM, THIS IS, UH, AN IMAGE OF, OF THE NEW RICHARDSON ROOM.

UM, SO WE'LL HAVE A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT SETUPS WE CAN DO HERE.

YOU'LL SEE THE, THE, UH, PARTITION UP HERE THAT YOU CAN DIVIDE IT INTO TWO SPACES, BE WOOD PANELING ON THE FRONT AND BACK WALLS, AND SOME ACOUSTIC PANELING ON THE SIDE, UH, SIDE WALLS.

UM, YOU'LL SEE TECHNOLOGY.

UM, AND THEN IN THE, JUST TO CATCH A GLIMPSE OF A LITTLE KINDA NICHE BACK HERE, YOU CAN USE FOR, WHETHER THAT'S CATERING OR, UM, ANY HANDOUTS FOR A MEETING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

THERE'S ALSO A, A WARMING KITCHEN THAT'S OFF OF THIS IN CASE IT, WE HAVE ANY EVENTS LIKE YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERSHIP WORKSHOP OR ANYTHING, WHICH WE WOULD ENVISION TO COME BACK HERE AS WELL.

AND THEN IN THE CORRIDOR, OUTSIDE OF, OF THE RICHARDSON ROOM, UH, AGAIN, WE WANTED TO, TO FIND WAYS, UM, TO, TO CELEBRATE, UH, RICHARDSON'S PAST.

AND SO ON THE ELEVATOR BANK THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ON THE SIDE OF THE ELEVATOR BANK, THERE WOULD BE THIS LITTLE RECESSED, UH, WINDOW AREA BACK HERE, UH, THAT WE COULD USE, UH, FOR, YOU KNOW, ANY SORT OF ITEMS OF HISTORICAL INTEREST.

THINK, YOU KNOW, IF THIS HAD BEEN HERE WHEN WE OPENED THE TIME CAPSULE, WE COULD PUT SOME OF THE CONTENTS OF THE TIME CAPSULE POTENTIALLY, UH, IN HERE, OR, OR JUST OTHER ARTIFACTS THAT ARE, ARE IMPORTANT TO RICHARDSON'S, UH, PAST.

UM, AND THEN ON THE, ON THE WALL IN BETWEEN THE TWO DOORS TO THE RICHARDSON ROOM, UH, YOU MIGHT RECALL, UH, IN OLD CITY HALL WHERE WE HAD THOSE HISTORICAL PHOTOS ON EITHER SIDE OF THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS, THIS WOULD BE KIND OF A REIMAGINED INTERPRETATION OF THAT WITH SOME WALL MURALS THAT WOULD USE THOSE HISTORICAL, UH, PHOTOS AGAIN, TO CELEBRATE RICHARDSON'S, UH, HISTORY.

AND THEN ON, NOT SHOWN HERE, BUT ON THE WALL OPPOSITE, UH, OR THE OPPOSITE WALL ON THIS CORRIDOR, UH, WE'D HAVE, UH, SPACE FOR AN ART GALLERY, UM, FOR, UM, THE, THE ART THAT WE GET FROM THE RICHARDSON, UH, CIVIC ART SOCIETY.

SO WE WOULD CONTINUE TO DO THAT IN NEW CITY HALL AS WELL.

THEN THIS IS, UH, IF, IF SOMEONE, UH, HAD TAKEN THE ELEVATOR UP TO THE SECOND FLOOR TURN LEFT, AND THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE, UH, PUBLIC LOBBY, UH, UP UPSTAIRS.

SO, UH, STAINED CONCRETE, YOU HAVE COMFORT CEILING, UH, NOT STAINED CON POLISHED CONCRETE, UM, UM, COMFORT CEILING.

UH, UP TOP YOU HAVE THE, THE WOOD, UH, PANELING, UH, AGAIN, UH, AND THEN YOU WALK UP TO A RECEPTION AREA TO, TO GET HELP.

UH, THERE'S SOME SEATING AREAS WHILE YOU'RE WAITING.

THERE'S ALSO A LITTLE, UH, BOOTH, UH, IN HERE.

IF, IF SOMEONE NEEDED TO COME OUT FOR A PRETTY QUICK INFORMAL TALK OR ANSWER A FEW QUESTIONS, THEY COULD SIT IN THERE AND YOU PULL UP AN AERIAL ON THAT TV SCREEN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, UM, TO HELP, OR IF YOU, IF YOU NEED A LONGER, MORE PRIVATE CONVERSATION, UH, EASILY ACCESSIBLE TO, UH, A MEETING AREA, UH, JUST OFF THE LOBBY.

AND THIS IS A RENDERING INSIDE, UH, THAT CONFERENCE ROOM, BUT PRETTY REPRESENTATIVE OF, OF MOST OF THE CONFERENCE ROOMS IN THE BUILDING.

THEY'D BE OF VARIOUS SIZES.

UH, SOME MAY BE OUTFITTED SLIGHTLY DIFFERENTLY, BUT, UH, TYPICALLY YOU'D HAVE, YOU KNOW, ONE OR TWO GLASS WALLS, UM, UH, KIND OF A FEATURE WALL THAT WOULD HAVE YOUR TECHNOLOGY AS WELL AS SOME, UM, STORAGE, UH, FOR THE ROOM, AND THEN ANOTHER WALL FOR YOUR WHITEBOARDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND THEN, UM, UH, AN EXAMPLE OF, OF KIND OF THE OFFICE AREA.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS I, I DIDN'T NOTE WHEN WE WERE GOING THROUGH THE FLOOR PLAN IS, IS WHAT WE TRIED TO DO FROM A, FROM A DESIGN STANDPOINT, IS REALLY PULL AS MANY OF THE OFFICES AS INTERIOR AS POSSIBLE, UH, AND LEAVE THE SPACES CLOSER TO THE WINDOW, UH, AVAILABLE FOR YOUR, UM, YOUR, UH, OTHER WORKSTATIONS AND, AND COLLABORATIVE AREAS.

SO THIS IS, THIS SHOWS YOU, UH, HOW THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD WORK.

UM, YOU HAVE A, A ROW OF OFFICES, WHICH WOULD TYPICALLY BE YOUR DIRECTORS AND YOUR ASSISTANT DIRECTORS, UH, WHO WOULD HAVE OFFICES.

UH, MAYBE THERE'S A COUPLE OF THOSE INFORMAL, UH, MEETING BOOTHS, UH, WHERE WE CAN FIT THEM.

UH, AND THEN OPPOSITE OF THE CORRIDOR, YOU HAVE, UH, YOUR, YOUR WORKSTATIONS, YOUR COLLABORATIVE AREAS AS YOU GET CLOSER TO THE WINDOWS, SO THAT, UH, WE KIND OF PRIORITIZE GIVING THE MOST PEOPLE ACCESS TO, UH, THE WINDOWS AND THE NATURAL LIGHT AS POSSIBLE.

UM, FROM DESIGN ELEMENT, UH, HAVE, AGAIN, CONCRETE IN YOUR HIGHLY TRAFFICKED CORRIDORS.

THEN AS YOU MOVE TO YOUR WORK AREAS, UH, HAVE CARPET UNDER THOSE AREAS.

AND THEN THIS IS A, ANOTHER OFFICE AREA ON THE THIRD FLOOR.

UM, AGAIN, CONCRETE DOWN THE MAIN CORRIDOR.

UH, THIS IS A LITTLE SEATING AREA.

THIS IS ACTUALLY WOULD BE WHAT WE'RE, UM, PROPOSING AS, AS THE MAYOR'S OFFICE.

UM, SO IF SOMEONE WANTED TO COME UP TO THE THIRD FLOOR, MEET WITH THE MAYOR, IF THEY NEEDED TO WAIT, THEY COULD WAIT IN THE LOBBY.

THEY COULD BE PULLED BACK HERE IN THIS OTHER WAITING AREA, UH, BUT THEN COME IN HERE TO, TO

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MEET WITH THE MAYOR, POTENTIALLY IF THEY WANTED TO DO THAT.

AND THEN TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, THE COUNCIL CHAMBER, UH, AND, UH, THE CONFERENCE ROOM THAT'S OFF OF THE COUNCIL CHAMBER.

UH, YOU'VE SEEN MUCH OF THIS INFORMATION IN THE PAST.

NOT MUCH HAS CHANGED ABOUT THE COUNCIL CHAMBER.

AGAIN, THERE'S BEEN SOME SLIGHT REFINEMENTS, UH, HERE AND THERE.

UH, PRIMARILY, UH, WE ADDED SOME, UM, UM, MOVABLE PODIUMS, UH, AT VARIOUS SEATING HEIGHTS.

SO ONE WOULD BE STANDING, YOU MIGHT HAVE ANOTHER ONE WITH AN OPTION FOR SEATING, JUST DEPENDING ON WHAT MAKES SENSE FOR, UH, THE TYPE OF PRESENTATION.

THOSE COULD BE MOVABLE, SO THEY COULD BE MOVED OUT OF THE WAY, UH, IF WE DIDN'T NEED THEM.

UM, BUT, BUT FAIRLY SIMILAR TO, TO WHAT YOU'VE SEEN, UH, IN THE PAST.

AND THEN THAT IS A RENDERING OF, UH, THE COUNCIL CHAMBER.

SO, AGAIN, YOU SEE THE, THE, THE WARM, UH, TONES ON, ON THE WALLS, UM, WITH SOME, UH, UH, WHITE AL UH, PLASTER ON THE CEILING.

UM, PECAN STAIN, MESQUITE, AGAIN, IS THE COLUMNS BEHIND, BEHIND THE DAAS, UH, WITH SOME ACOUSTICAL PANELING IN BETWEEN TO HELP WITH THE ACOUSTICS, UH, OF THE ROOM.

UH, YOU'D HAVE A, A, A KIND OF FEATURE WALL BEHIND THE DAAS, WHICH WOULD HAVE A, A LARGE SCREEN, UH, FOR, UH, THE, THE PUBLIC TO VIEW.

UM, AND THEN, UH, YOU CAN SEE WINDOWS, UH, THIS IS YOUR WINDOW OUT TO THE PLAZA.

YOU HAVE THE, THE CLEAR STORY WINDOWS ABOVE TO LET NATURAL LIGHT IN.

THERE'S ALSO A WINDOW INTO THE LOBBY AREA AS WELL.

SO WHEN YOU'RE IN THE LOBBY, YOU GET THE NATURAL LIGHT FLOWING THROUGH THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS INTO, INTO THE LOBBY.

UH, AND THEN YOU SEE THIS BAND AT, AT THE TOP OF, OF THE, UH, IMAGE.

UM, THIS COULD BE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR EITHER PUBLIC ART OR FOR ADDITIONAL HISTORICAL PHOTOS, OR IT COULD JUST BE, YOU KNOW, PAINTED A SOLID COLOR IF WE WANTED IT TO KIND OF FADE AWAY, UH, AS WELL'S KIND OF TO BE DETERMINED IN THE DESIGN.

BUT THAT'S, UH, THAT'S THE, THE IDEA, UH, OF THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS.

AND THEN MOVING INTO THAT CONFERENCE ROOM BEHIND THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS, THIS WOULD BE WHERE WE WOULD POTENTIALLY HAVE EXECUTIVE SESSIONS FOR THE COUNCIL, UM, THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, THIS ROOM SEATS UP TO, TO 30.

OBVIOUSLY, WE WOULD NEED THAT LARGE OF A, A SPACE FOR, FOR COUNCIL MEETINGS, BUT IT GIVES US SOME FLEXIBILITY TO HAVE MEETINGS, OTHER KINDS OF MEETINGS IN THAT ROOM AS WELL.

UM, YOU SEE A MIX OF, OF WOOD PANELING AGAIN, YOU SEE THAT, UH, FLUIDED LIMESTONE ON THE WALL OF THE COUNCIL CHAMBER.

UM, AND, UM, PLENTY OF TECHNOLOGY FOR PRESENTATIONS AND WHATNOT IN THIS ROOM.

UM, DO YOU WANNA PAUSE THERE AND TALK INTERIOR, MR. CORKER? HEY, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

UH, CHARLES AND TEAM.

I REALLY LIKE THIS BUILDING.

UM, EVERYTHING I'VE SEEN SO FAR, IT, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES, UH, A CITY WILL BUILD A REALLY BIG CITY HALL THAT IS GLAMOROUS, BUT NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF THEIR ACTUAL NEED.

AND I THINK WE'VE BUILT OR DESIGNED A CITY HALL THAT IS BOTH, YOU KNOW, COMPACT, UM, FUNCTIONAL INSIDE, AND REALLY FITS THE NEED OF, OF OUR CITY WHILE LOOKING VERY NICE ON THE EXTERIOR AND INTERIOR.

THE, UM, THE ONLY THINGS I WOULD, I WOULD SAY, BASED ON WHAT I SAW IS, YOU KNOW, I, I FEEL LIKE THE BUILDING INTERIOR, AND I'M BY NO MEANS ANY, ANY SORT OF ARTISTIC PERSON, BUT LEANING INTO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE REPRESENTATIVE OF RICHARDSON, LIKE THOSE SEMICONDUCTOR STYLE PANELS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

UM, NOT BEING AFRAID, YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH BLUE AND, UH, BLUE AND WHITE ARE OUR COLORS LEANING INTO THAT DRAMATIC DASH OF DARK GREEN WHERE WE CAN, I THINK STUFF LIKE THAT WOULD MAKE OUR CITY HALL, YOU KNOW, ON THE INTERIOR JUST LOOK REALLY, UM, REALLY DIFFERENT FROM, YOU KNOW, THE GENERIC NEW CORPORATE OFFICE BUILDINGS BEING BUILT, YOU KNOW, EVERYWHERE IN NORTH TEXAS.

THANK YOU, JOE.

MS. JUSTICE.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UM, CHARLES, GREAT PRESENTATION SO FAR.

I, I WOULD AGREE WITH WHAT COUNCILMAN CORCORAN SAID, BUT THE WORD THAT STOOD OUT TO ME THE MOST THAT RESONATED WITH YOU MOST IS TIMELESS.

THAT'S A WORD THAT YOU USED.

AND I THINK THAT THAT'S IMPORTANT.

AND WE WANT THIS BUILDING TO BE HERE IN 50 YEARS AND STILL NOT LOOK SO HYPER STYLIZED THAT IT LOOKS LIKE IT WAS BUILT IN 2020, WHATEVER THIS IS GONNA BE BUILT IN AND, YOU KNOW, UM, IT WILL BE DATED OR, OR, YOU KNOW, UM, UM, AN ANTIQUE BY THEN, YOU KNOW, AND, AND IT'LL BE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT IT TO BE KITCHY, I GUESS IS WHAT I'M GETTING AT, YOU KNOW, UH, 50 YEARS FROM NOW.

SO, UM, TIMELESS, I THINK WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT WORD THAT YOU SAID TO ME.

IT'S BEAUTIFUL.

I HAVE NO, NOTHING BAD TO SAY ABOUT IT.

I THINK THAT THAT SHOULD JUST BE THE GUIDING PRINCIPLE THOUGH, IS THAT WE WANT THIS BUILDING TO HOLD UP SURE.

UM, AND NOT, YOU KNOW, NEED A REAL FACELIFT OR COMPLETELY, YOU KNOW, NEED A DESIGN OVERHAUL AND, AND 30 OR 40 YEARS.

SURE.

UM, SO THAT EVERYTHING THAT I'VE SEEN IS BEAUTIFUL.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE TAKEN THE PUBLIC FEEDBACK, UM, AND REALLY APPLIED IT HERE, BUT THAT, THAT'S THE WORD THAT STOOD OUT TO ME.

UM, AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE, UM, A FOCUS ON THAT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU, JENNIFER.

MAYOR PRO TIM.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

QUESTION ON THE FLOOR.

WHAT DID I MISS? WHAT, UH, MATERIAL THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT USING FOR THE FLOOR? UH, SO IT'S A, IT'S A MIXTURE OF MATERIALS, DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU ARE IN THE BUILDING.

UM, THE, THE MAIN LOBBY WOULD BEZO.

UM, AND THEN AS YOU MOVE, UH, TO, UH, KIND OF YOUR, YOUR PUBLIC AREAS, AND

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AGAIN, THOSE HIGH TRAFFIC CORRIDORS, UH, YOU'D HAVE THE, UH, CONCRETE FLOORS AND THEN AS YOU GET TO YOUR CONFERENCE ROOMS AND YOUR OFFICES AND YOUR WORK AREAS, UH, IT'D BE CARPET AND ALSO CARPET IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS AS WELL.

OKAY.

I MEAN, UH, FOCUS AGAIN, YOU KNOW, TO BE SUSTAINABLE.

AND, YOU KNOW, AMONG OTHER FACTOR, I THINK FOCUSING, I GUESS IS THAT ALSO LEAST MAINTENANCE OR, UH, YOU KNOW, MAINTENANCE COSTS.

KEEPING IT LOW OVER THE YEARS.

I'M NOT LOOKING FOR ONLY 50 YEARS.

I'M LOOKING, WELL, I WOULD NOT BE HERE, BUT SHOULD STAY MORE THAN A HUNDRED YEARS, THIS BUILDING.

UH, NOW OTHER QUESTION THAT, THAT I SEE THAT MULTIPLE PLACES, YOU HAVE THAT WAFFLE TYPE SYSTEM ON THE, ON THE CEILING.

YES.

IS THAT, UH, PART OF THE BUILDING STRUCTURE OR THESE ARE REMOVABLE? UH, THOSE ARE REMOVABLE, I BELIEVE, YES.

OKAY.

SO THIS IS NOT PART OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE BEAM SYSTEM THAT YOU HAVE THAT THIS NO, THIS IS, THIS IS PRIMARILY AESTHETIC AND THEN ACOUSTIC, UH, AS WELL.

OKAY.

SO, I MEAN, THESE ARE THE MATERIAL THAT PROBABLY IN THE FUTURE SOMETIMES CAN CHANGE.

SO THIS IS NOT A BIG DEAL.

THESE ARE EASILY REMOVAL THEN.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ALRIGHT, I GUESS EVERYONE'S NODDING LIKE THIS.

ALRIGHT, CHARLES.

THANK YOU.

NEXT STEP.

ALRIGHT, SO THE, THE, UM, OTHER, UM, ELEMENT OF THIS THAT WE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT AGAIN, 'CAUSE IT'S, IT'S BEEN AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE CONVERSATION TO DATE IS, UM, SUSTAINABILITY AND, UH, THE SUSTAINABLE ELEMENTS THAT WE'VE INCLUDED IN, UH, THE PROJECT.

AND, AND PROBABLY THE, THE MOST IMPACTFUL THING THAT, THAT WE COULD DO FROM A SUSTAINABILITY PERSPECTIVE IS, IS WHAT WE DID WHEN WE ADOPTED THE 2021 INTERNATIONAL ENERGY CONSERVATION CODE, UM, THAT CHANGE FROM THE 2018 CODE TO THE 2021 CODE.

BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE, THE TECHNICAL, UH, REQUIREMENTS OF, OF THAT NEW CODE, UH, STUDIES HAVE SHOWN THAT THAT BUILDINGS ARE APPROXIMATELY 10% MORE ENERGY EFFICIENT JUST BY, UH, ADOPTING AND APPLYING, UH, THE NEW CODE REQUIREMENTS.

AND THAT REQUIRES THINGS, UM, SUCH AS YOUR, YOUR HIGH PERFORMANCE BUILDING ENVELOPES, AGAIN, TO GET TO YOUR, UM, EFFICIENCIES AND, AND INSULATION, UH, OF, OF THINGS SO THAT, YOU KNOW, YOUR, YOUR WARMER COLD AIR AND ESCAPING THE BUILDING, UM, HAVING LED LIGHT FIXTURES, UH, THERE'S A ENERGY SAVINGS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, BUT THEY ALSO LAST A LOT LONGER.

SO THERE'S A, UM, UM, UM, KIND OF A DIVE DIVERSION, A WASTE DIVERSION ELEMENT TO THAT.

UH, YOUR LIGHTING CONTROL SYSTEMS, UH, THE, THE NEW CODE REQUIRES SOME, SOME PRETTY, UM, UM, UH, SPECIFIC, UH, REQUIREMENTS RELATED TO DAYLIGHT SENSORS TO ADJUST LIGHT WHEN THERE'S A LOT OF DAYLIGHT COMING INTO A ROOM SO THAT YOU MAY NOT NEED AS MUCH LIGHT, SOME MOTION DETECTOR SO THAT IF IF A ROOM ISN'T OCCUPIED, THE LIGHTS WILL GO OFF, UH, WHEN PEOPLE AREN'T THERE.

AND ALSO CONNECTIVITY TO THE HVAC SYSTEM SO THAT, AGAIN, IF YOU HAVE AN AREA OF YOUR BUILDING THAT DOESN'T HAVE PEOPLE IN IT, YOU'RE NOT WASTING A LOT OF ENERGY COOLING OR HEATING THAT ROOM, UM, UH, TO, TO, TO A FULL DEGREE.

I MEAN, IT WON'T JUST COMPLETELY NOT, NOT, UM, NOT COOL OR HEAT THAT AREA, BUT, BUT NOT TO THE DEGREE IT NORMALLY WOULD UNTIL SOMEONE ENTERS THAT SPACE.

UM, ANOTHER INTERESTING, UH, REQUIREMENT IN, IN THE NEW CODE IS THAT 50% OF OUTLETS WILL HAVE TO BE TIED TO MOTION DETECTION.

SO THINK ABOUT IT IN AN OFFICE, IF YOU HAVE, IF YOU HAVE TWO PLUGS, THIS IS VERY SIMPLE, BUT TWO PLUGS, YOU KNOW, YOU WANT YOUR COMPUTER TO BE PLUGGED INTO, UM, THE ONE THAT'S ALWAYS, UH, POWERED, UH, BUT MAYBE YOU HAVE A DESK LAMP OR, OR A CORNER LAMP OR SOMETHING IN, IN, IN THE OFFICE.

UM, YOU MIGHT LEAVE THAT ON, BUT THEN LEAVE THE OFFICE FOR A FEW HOURS THAT WOULD BE TIED TO A MOTION DETECTOR SO THAT THAT LAMP WOULD TURN OFF, UM, AND NOT USE, USE ENERGY, UH, WHEN YOU'RE NOT IN THE ROOM.

UM, AND THEN WE'RE ALSO, UH, PROPOSING, UM, A SOLAR WATER HEATER TO USE, UM, TO USE THE SUN TO, TO HELP, UH, HEAT WATER, UM, HAVE HIGH EFFICIENCIES ROOFTOP UNITS WITH OUR HVAC SYSTEM.

UM, OBVIOUSLY LOW FLOW, UH, PLUMBING FIXTURES, UH, THEN SMART BUILDING TECHNOLOGIES TO TIE KIND OF EVERYTHING TOGETHER AND HELP, UM, KINDA SQUEEZE OUT AS MUCH EFFICIENCY OUT OF THE BUILDING OF SYSTEMS AS AS POSSIBLE IN ADDITION TO, TO CODE REQUIREMENTS SOME OTHER, UM, THINGS THAT WE DID AS, AS WE THOUGHT THROUGH THE DESIGN AND LAYOUT.

UM, RIGHT NOW, UH, WE'RE SHOWING COMPLETE PROTECTION, UH, OF, OF LEADERSHIP GROVE.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA DO OUR BEST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T IMPACT LEADERSHIP GROVE AT AT ALL, AND WE THINK WE'VE, WE'VE ACHIEVED THAT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, AS WE GET INTO CONSTRUCTION, WE'LL, WE WILL, UH, I DON'T WANT TO SAY THAT DEFINITIVELY QUITE YET, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE AVOIDING, UH, LEADERSHIP GROVE, UH, TO THIS POINT.

UM, WHERE WE ARE ADDING LANDSCAPING TO THE SITE, THERE'LL BE, UH, TEXAS NATIVE, UH, LANDSCAPE MATERIALS THAT ARE DROUGHT TOLERANT, SO WE WON'T USE, UH, AS MUCH WATER, UM, AS WE THINK ABOUT, UM, DESIGN ELEMENTS OF THE SITE AND OF THE BUILDING.

UH, WE'VE DESIGNED BOTH THE SITE, UH, AND THE BUILDING TO BE AS FLEXIBLE AS POSSIBLE, UH, FOR FUTURE ADAPTABILITY, WHETHER THAT'S, YOU KNOW, PRESERVING ALL OF THIS, THE, THE SPACE, UH, TO THE SOUTH OF THE MAIN DRIVE AISLE IN THE

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BUILDING FOR HOWEVER WE MAY OR MAY NOT WANT TO DEVELOP THE SITE IN THE FUTURE.

UH, BUT ALSO, UH, DESIGNING THE BUILDING AGAIN, TRYING TO KEEP AS MUCH OF, OF THE BUILT AREA OR, OR OF, OF CITY HALL IN THE CORE ALLOWS US TO, UH, MAKE RENOVATIONS AND CHANGES TO KIND OF THE OUTER PARTS CLOSER TO THE WINDOWS OF THE BUILDING.

AGAIN, AS NEEDS CHANGE, UM, OR USE DIFFERENT WORKS, UH, STATIONS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

THE OVERHANGS OF THE BUILDING PROVIDE SOME NATURAL, UH, SHADE AND AGAIN, HELP REDUCE, UH, ENERGY CONSUMPTION.

UH, WE'RE, UH, LOCALLY SOURCING, UH, MOST, IF NOT ALL OF OUR BUILDING MATERIALS BASED ON WHAT WE'VE CHOSE CHOSEN.

UH, WE'RE FOCUSING ON UPCYCLED AND RECYCLED, UH, SITE FURNITURE.

UM, WE HAVE A GRANT APPLICATION SUBMITTED, UH, FOR ELECTRICAL VEHICLE CHARGING, UH, STATIONS ON THE, ON THE CAMPUS.

THERE'LL BE, UH, A SET AT, UM, IF WE GET THE GRANT, THERE'LL BE A SET AT THE LIBRARY AND A SET AT CITY HALL.

UM, THEN THE CAMPUS WILL COMPLY WITH THE NEW BICYCLE PARKING, UH, REQUIREMENTS.

AND THEN WE'RE ALSO, UH, EXPLORING A PARTNERSHIP WITH THAT ENHANCED BUS SHELTER THAT DART TALKED ABOUT AT OUR LAST MEETING, UH, TO SEE IF THEY'D BE WILLING TO PUT ONE AT, UH, AT NEW CITY HALL.

AND THEN AN IMPORTANT PART OF SUSTAINABILITY IS ALSO, UH, EMPLOYEE WELLBEING.

AND SO, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'LL BE PROMOTING IS THE WALKING PATHS THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON THE SITE.

BUT WE'LL HAVE SOME, UH, ENHANCED CONNECTIVITY TOO.

WE MADE THE STAIRWELLS MORE PROMINENT IN THE DESIGN OF THE BUILDING TO HELP ENCOURAGE PEOPLE USE THE STAIRS.

AND THERE'LL ALSO BE, UH, A COUPLE OF SHOWER ROOMS THAT WILL PROMOTE PHYSICAL ACTIVITY.

IF YOU WANTED TO, AGAIN, GO OUT WALKING ON YOUR LUNCH BREAK, OR IF YOU WANTED A BIKE TO WORK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, UM, THAT'LL BE AN OPTION FOR YOU.

AND THEN OUR BUILDING DESIGN AND LAYOUT, AGAIN, PUTS AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE CLOSER TO THE, THE OUTDOORS AND THE NATURAL LIGHT.

UH, AND THEN OUR BUILDING MATERIALS AND FF AND E, UH, INCLUDE, UH, LOW VOC AND, AND OTHER SUSTAINABLE MATERIALS.

UM, JUST JUST QUICKLY ON, ON THE PROJECT BUDGET, THIS IS, UH, SIMILAR TO, UH, WHAT YOU SAW BACK IN FEBRUARY WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, INCREASING THE BUDGET FROM 85 MILLION TO 91 MILLION.

WE'RE STILL AT THE 91 MILLION MARK AS, UH, WE EXPECTED.

UM, WHEN WE STARTED OUT THE PROJECT WAY BACK IN, IN, IN JANUARY OF, OF 23, WE HAD A, A PRETTY, UH, HEALTHY, UH, LINE FOR, UH, CONTINGENCY.

AND AS WE'VE MOVED CLOSER TO ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION, NOT CONTINGENCY ESCALATIONS, EXCUSE ME, UM, AS WE MOVE CLOSER TO THE ACTUAL BID DATE FOR CONSTRUCTION, AS, AS WE ANTICIPATED, UH, THAT, UM, ESCALATION IS MOVING FROM THE ESCALATION LINE UP INTO THE CONSTRUCTION BUDGET, UH, LINE.

UH, AND SO AGAIN, YOU'LL, YOU'LL SEE THAT THAT LINE IS, IS GOING DOWN WHILE THE CONSTRUCTION BUDGET IS, IS INCREASING.

BUT THE OVERALL, UH, PROJECT COST HAS NOT CHANGED, UH, SINCE, UH, THE FEBRUARY, UH, UH, PRESENTATION.

AND I WILL SAY THE, THE 65 MILLION, UH, CONSTRUCTION BUDGET INCLUDES 10% CONTINGENCY.

SO, UM, YOU HAVE THAT CONTINGENCY PLUS THE ADDITIONAL ESCALATION CONTINGENCY.

UH, WE STILL HAVE ABOUT, UH, EIGHT PLUS MILLION DOLLARS, UH, IN CONTINGENCY WITHIN THIS BUDGET.

AND THEN YOU ALSO RECALL THAT IN THE FISCAL YEAR, 2022, A GENERAL FUND YEAR IN SAVINGS, WE RESERVED ANOTHER $10 MILLION FOR CONTINGENCY.

SO WE'RE, UH, WE'RE DOING PRETTY WELL, UH, ON THE PROJECT BUDGET, UH, ON THIS.

CHARLES, BEFORE YOU LEAVE THAT FILE, UH, THAT DEAL, CAN YOU SHARE WITH US WHERE INSURANCE IS GOING TO HELP US IN ANY OF THOSE AREAS AND SO FORTH? IS THAT A FAIR QUESTION, DON? DOES IT OFFSET ANY OF THAT, OR IS THAT INCLUDED IN THAT? SO, SO THE, OUR, OUR INSURANCE, UH, IS, UH, IN OUR FINAL INSURANCE AMOUNT IS INCLUDED, UH, IN THAT NUMBER.

UM, THAT COMBINED WITH SOME OTHER, UH, ADDITIONAL FUNDING SOURCES IS WHAT ALLOWED US TO MOVE FROM THE 85 MILLION UP TO THE 91 MILLION.

THAT'S WHAT I WANTED THE CLARIFICATION.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, BUT JUST JUST TO, TO, TO BE, UM, TO, TO HOLD A LITTLE BIT BACK JUST 'CAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT HAPPENS.

UH, WHEN WE DO GO OUT TO TO BID THIS PROJECT, UH, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF OTHER PROJECT ELEMENTS THAT, THAT WE'RE, WE'RE HOLDING AS ALTERNATIVES, UH, OUTSIDE OF THE BASE BID.

SO JUST ALLOW US SOME LITTLE, UH, FLEXIBILITY, UM, FOR, UH, WHEN THE PROJECT COMES BACK.

IF, IF THE PROJECT COMES IN, YOU KNOW, WITHIN BUDGET OR, OR MAYBE SLIGHTLY UNDER THE NUMBERS THAT WE'VE SHOWN HERE, WE CAN ADD SOME OF THESE IN OR WE CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IF WE WANNA DIP INTO THAT $10 MILLION CONTINGENCY FOR SOME OF THESE THINGS.

BUT THE, THE THINGS WE'RE LOOKING AT ARE, UH, THE ROOFTOP SOLAR PANELS.

UH, WE'RE ESTIMATING THAT THOSE WOULD BE ABOUT, UH, $1.25 MILLION.

UH, THAT IS ASSUMING, UM, THAT 75% OF THE ROOF OF CITY HALL WOULD BE COVERED IN SOLAR PANELS.

UM, BASED ON OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR, UH, DESIGN TEAM, UH, THAT WOULD ONLY NET ABOUT A 10% POWER GENERATION.

UH, SO YOU'RE SPENDING ABOUT 1.25 MILLION TO, TO, TO GENERATE ABOUT 10% OF THE BUILDING'S POWER, UM, WHICH THAT NUMBER, THOSE NUMBERS DON'T PAY FOR THEMSELVES.

THE, THE, AS WE'VE LEARNED, THE, THE TECHNOLOGY JUST REALLY ISN'T THERE YET IN A MEANINGFUL WAY, UH, FOR COMMERCIAL STRUCTURES.

IT, IT MAKES SENSE ON RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES, BUT JUST THE, THE POWER NEEDS OF A, OF A BUILDING LIKE THIS ARE SO GREAT THAT, THAT, AGAIN, THE TECHNOLOGY

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IS JUST NOT QUITE THERE, UH, YET FROM A, FROM A ENERGY CONSERVATION STANDPOINT.

UM, THE OTHER THING THAT, THAT, UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT IS, UM, SOME ENHANCEMENTS TO THAT PLAZA AREA AND LEADERSHIP GROVE.

UM, KIND OF THE, THE BASE IS, IS IN, IS IN THE, THE BASE BID WITH, WITH PAVING AND, AND KIND OF CODE REQUIRED LIGHTING AND SOME, SOME SEEDING.

UH, BUT IF WE WANTED TO, UH, REALLY MAKE THE LEADERSHIP GROVE, UH, MORE USABLE, MAYBE EXTEND SOME, UH, WALKING AREAS INTO LEADERSHIP GROVE, SOME SEEDING AREAS INTO LEADERSHIP GROVE, MAYBE LOOK AT SOME, UH, ENHANCED LANDSCAPING AND GROUND COVER UNDER THE TREES WHERE THE GRASS DOESN'T REALLY GROW 'CAUSE OF THE SHADE.

UH, THAT WOULD ALL ADD UP TO ABOUT $1.1 MILLION IF YOU WANTED TO LOOK AT THAT.

UM, WE ALSO, UH, THE INTENT IS TO, TO PRESERVE AS MUCH OF THE EXISTING PARKING, UH, AS POSSIBLE.

UH, BUT, UH, IF WE HAVE THE FUNDS AND, AND IF WE WANT TO, UH, WE THINK IT WOULD COST ABOUT $200,000 TO GO IN AND, AND REPAIR SOME OF THE AREAS OF, OF THE PARKING LOT WHERE THERE MAY BE CRACKING OR MAYBE A CURB IS BUSTED OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND TO REPAVE, UH, SORRY, NOT REPAVE, REPAINT, UH, THE PARKING LOT, UH, BEFORE, UH, BEFORE WE MOVE IN TO, TO NEW CITY HALL.

UH, AND THEN, UH, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT SECOND FLOOR, UH, PATIO.

IF WE WANTED TO EXTEND THAT OVER THE, THE FULL, UH, PORTION OF, OF THE SECOND FLOOR, THAT'S ABOUT 325,000.

AND THEN THERE'S A, A SITE TRANSFORMER, A SECOND SITE TRANSFORMER.

THERE'S ONE FOR THE BUILDING.

THERE'S ANOTHER ONE FOR, UM, THE, UM, OPEN SPACES ON, ON THE SITE.

UM, WHERE THAT'S LOCATED RIGHT NOW IS, IS IN AN AREA OF, AGAIN, IF WE WANNA LEAVE THAT, THAT SOUTHERN PART OF THE CAMPUS AVAILABLE FOR OTHER USES IN THE FUTURE.

AGAIN, NOT KNOWING WHAT THAT IS, BUT IF WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT'S, IT'S THERE, THERE'S A SITE TRANSFORMER THAT FROM AN EFFICIENCY STANDPOINT THAT'S, UH, AND A COST STANDPOINT, THAT'S THE BEST PLACE TO PUT IT.

BUT IF WE WANTED TO MOVE IT OUT OF THAT WAY AND TO MAINTAIN MAXIMUM FLEXIBILITY, THERE'S AN EXTRA COST OF ABOUT $225,000.

SO THOSE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT WE'RE MONITORING THAT WILL, UH, ASSESS, UH, FURTHER AS WE, UH, GET FURTHER INTO DESIGN AND HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF, OF THE COST OF THE PROJECT.

UH, SO WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR ACCEPT ANY, UH, ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.

UH, AFTER TONIGHT'S MEETING, AS I MENTIONED, WE'RE PROGRESSING INTO CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS, UH, THAT WILL INCORPORATE WHATEVER FEEDBACK WE GET TONIGHT.

UH, WE'RE STILL EVALUATING THE FEASIBILITY OF, OF EARLY RELEASE PACKAGES, UM, AS WE UNDERSTAND MORE ABOUT, UH, THE CONSTRUCTION TIMELINE FOR THIS.

AND, AND FRANKLY, AS, AS LEAD TIMES FOR, FOR CERTAIN BUILDING MATERIALS, UM, HAVE, HAVE DECREASED, UH, THE, THE NEED FOR, FOR EARLY RELEASE, UH, YOU KNOW, MAY NOT BE AS, AS IMPORTANT AS IT ONCE WAS, BUT WE'RE STILL ASSESSING, UH, WHETHER THAT MAKES SENSE.

UH, AND THEN AS, AS WE GET, UH, CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS FINALIZED, WE WILL, UM, GET A GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE, UH, FROM OUR, UH, CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK, UH, AND AWARD THAT, UM, THE CITY HALL, OLD CITY HALL DEMO IS, IS, UH, ONGOING RIGHT NOW AND SHOULD BE COMPLETE, UH, THIS SUMMER.

AND THEN I LOOK FORWARD TO, UH, GROUNDBREAKING SOMETIME LATE THIS FALL.

HAPPY.

THANK YOU, CHARLES.

MR. DORIAN.

THANK YOU, MAYOR CHARLES.

THANK YOU.

IT'S, UH, LOOKING REALLY GOOD, BY THE WAY.

THANKS.

I'M, I'M EXCITED.

UM, I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS AND, AND THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING THE QUESTION ON THE SOLAR.

I WAS GOING TO, THAT WAS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS TONIGHT, AND IT'S INTERESTING TO KNOW THAT WE ONLY CAPTURE 10% OF THE ENERGY.

SO IT'S, I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ARE USING IT FOR THE WATER, UH, HEATER, UH, ELEMENT, THOUGH.

THERE'S ENOUGH VALUE THERE TO RIGHT.

CONTINUE WITH THAT PART OF THE PROJECT.

YEAH.

THAT, THAT TECHNOLOGY IS A LOT, A LOT BETTER THAN, THAN TRUE SOLAR PANELS TO POWER THE BUILDING.

YES.

YEAH.

I, I AGREE.

YEAH.

I MEAN, I, AGAIN, WHEN YOU'RE DOING THIS, I ALWAYS AGREE, LET'S GO AHEAD AND JUST GET IT DONE NOW.

BUT I MEAN, WITH THE CURRENT TECHNOLOGY, WE GENERALLY DO NOT WANT TO HAVE TO GO REPLACE IT TO BRING IT, YOU KNOW, BRING IT UP TO NEW TECHNOLOGY AFTER SPENDING $1.2 MILLION.

BUT, UM, ON THE SPEAKING ON THE WATER, UH, ELEMENT, IS THERE, HAS THERE BEEN ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT RECAPTURING WATER, MAYBE REPURPOSING THAT TO LANDSCAPING OR OTHER, OTHER GENERAL SERVICES THAT, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE LOOKED AT? AGAIN, FROM A, FROM A COST PERSPECTIVE AND JUST A MAINTENANCE PERSPECTIVE, UM, THOSE COULD BE PROBLEMATIC.

UH, SO WE, WE FOCUS MORE ON DROUGHT TOLERANT PLANTINGS RATHER THAN, THAN RECAPTURING OF, OF WATER.

BECAUSE YOU, I MEAN, GENERALLY SPEAKING, IF WE WERE TO RECAPTURE OR AN ELEMENT OF RECAPTURING WATER, THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE PUT INTO SOME SORT OF UNIT YES.

TO DISPERSE AND, OR IT, DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH RAIN WE GET, OF COURSE.

RIGHT.

IT COULD BE DISPERSED AT THAT TIME THROUGH AN IRRIGATION SYSTEM.

RIGHT.

I MEAN, AS A THOUGHT.

AND THAT WAS ANOTHER CONSIDERATION THERE TOO, IS, IS TRYING TO BE AS, AS, UH, MINIMALLY IMPACTFUL TO THE SITE AS POSSIBLE.

AGAIN, NOT TRYING TO TAKE OUT ANY MORE TREES THAN WE HAVE TO, UM, HAVING A BIG CISTERN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO CAPTURE THAT AMOUNT OF RAIN WATER THAT, AGAIN, WOULD, WOULD PROVIDE A MEANINGFUL AMOUNT OF, OF, OF REUSABLE WATER.

UH,

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WE, WE THOUGHT THAT FROM THE FEEDBACK THAT WE HEARD, THAT PRESERVATION OF TREES IN PARTICULAR WAS, UH, PROBABLY PRIORITIZED HIGHER THAN, UM, THAN A CISTERN.

OKAY.

YEAH.

I WOULD'VE LIKED TO HAVE SEEN MAYBE SOME SMALL USAGE OF, OF WATER DISTRIBUTION OR WATER CAPTURING AND DISTRIBUTION IN SOME ELEMENTS.

I KNOW THAT WE LOOKED AT SOME INSPIRATION IMAGES IN THE VERY BEGINNING, AND, AND I DID, I THOUGHT MAYBE A SMALL AMOUNT OF THAT WOULD BE GOOD FOR THE LANDSCAPE.

YOU KNOW, A PARTIAL, UH, PARTIAL LANDSCAPING.

UM, ON, ON THE, UH, EXTERIOR LIGHTING, IS THAT GENERALLY ALWAYS LIKE ON A DUST TO DAWN TYPE SYSTEM, OR HOW DOES THAT WORK? YES.

OKAY.

SO IT'S ALL SET UP FOR OKAY.

AND IS THERE GONNA BE ANY TYPE OF, UH, BACKUP SYSTEM FOR, I HATE TO USE THE TERM, UH, GENERATOR 'CAUSE I MEAN, WE ALL HAVE, THE GENERALLY NEED THAT FOR RESIDENTIAL, BUT IS THERE SOME TYPE OF ELEMENT OR SOMETHING TO THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED FOR JUST IN CASE ELECTRICITY GOES OUT? UM, SO THERE IS, DID I MISS IT? UH, WELL, NOT, I DIDN'T GO INTO DETAIL ABOUT IT.

UM, SO GENERALLY BACK IN THIS AREA, WE WOULD ANTICIPATE HAVING A GENERATOR THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO BACK UP THE FACILITY.

OKAY.

HOW LARGE DOES THAT GENERATOR HAVE TO BE TO CARRY THAT LOAD? UH, LARGE , I WAS GONNA SAY, YES, IT'S STILL, STILL DETERMINING THAT, UM, COMPLETELY AGAIN, ONCE WE, ONCE WE FINALIZE THE, THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE BUILDING.

UM, SO WE HAVE SOME OPTIONS, BUT, UM, IT, IT'S A, IT'S A PRETTY BIG GENERATOR.

MM-HMM.

.

WELL, GOOD.

THAT'S GREAT.

THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW.

UM, ON YOUR POINT ABOUT EXTENDING THE SECOND FLOOR BALCONY MM-HMM.

, I HAVE TO SAY I AGREE WITH THAT.

UM, IT'S, IT'S A GOOD ELEMENT IF WE CAN TO PUT THAT IN.

NOW, I THINK FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR FUNCTIONS, FOR CITY FUNCTIONS, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT PLACE AND A GREAT, AND A, AND A NICE ELEMENT.

MM-HMM.

, UH, AND I, I, I'VE SEEN IT USED IN OTHER APPLICATIONS, AND I THINK IT'S A REALLY GREAT, UH, PIECE OF THE PUZZLE.

GOOD.

UM, UM, EARLIER IT WAS ASKED ABOUT THE ACOUSTICAL ON THE INTERIOR OF THE CHAMBER COUNCIL CHAMBERS.

MM-HMM.

IS THE, THE VENEER, IS THAT WOOD VENEER OR IS THAT A COMBINATION OF ACOUSTICAL PANELS AND WOOD VENEER? SO THE, THE PANELS THEMSELVES ARE A MICRO PERFORATED MM-HMM.

, UH, MATERIAL THAT, THAT HAS A WOOD VENEER ON IT.

AND THEN IN BETWEEN THE PANELS OR IN BETWEEN THE COLUMNS ARE MORE ACOUSTICAL PANELS.

UH, AND THEN ALSO THE, THE, UH, CEILING MATERIAL IS AN ACOUSTICAL PLASTER.

OKAY.

AND I, I KNOW THAT WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED FURNITURE, BUT THE, THE SEATING IN THERE IS, ARE THEY JUST ALL UPHOLSTERED OR THEY GONNA BE A COMBINATION OF UPHOLSTERY AND HEART WOOD BACKS WITH, WITH SOME UPHOLSTERED, UM, UM, OR SOME UPHOLSTERY ON, ON THE SEATING AREA TO BE DETERMINED ON THE EXACT MATERIAL.

OKAY.

SO IT WILL BE UPHOLSTERY THOUGH, NOT LIKE A PLEATHER OR CORRECT.

OR A LEATHER OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR NOW.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. CORCORAN.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

UH, THE ONLY FURTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS FOR THAT, UH, GRANT APPLICATION FOR THE EV CHARGING.

WHAT IS THE LIKELIHOOD THAT WE'RE GONNA GET THAT? I MEAN, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY GETS? WE, THERE, THERE ARE, UM, THIS IS A GRANT, UH, THAT, UH, COMES OUT QUITE FREQUENTLY.

OKAY.

UM, AND SO WE, THAT GIVES US SOME CONFIDENCE THAT OKAY.

THAT, THAT THERE ARE FUNDS OUT THERE AND ALSO JUST WITH THE FEDERAL PUSH TO, TO ADD EV CHARGES.

MM-HMM.

, UH, THERE, THERE IS A LOT OF MONEY OUT THERE FOR THAT.

SO EVEN IF WE DON'T MAKE IT IN, IN THIS KIND OF GRANT ROUND, THERE'LL BE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES IN THE FUTURE FOR US TO REAPPLY.

OKAY.

UH, SO WE, WE DO FEEL PRETTY CONFIDENT ABOUT GETTING THAT GRANT.

THAT'S GOOD.

I, I JUST, I MEAN, OF ALL THE, ALL THE DESIGN ELEMENTS ABOUT SURROUNDING RENEWABLE ENERGY MM-HMM.

, I JUST FEEL LIKE EV STUFF, REGARDLESS OF HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT RENEWABLE ENERGY, IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT'S HERE TO STAY.

IT'S A FUNCTION OF EVERY SORT OF MODERN CONSTRUCTION FOR A BUILDING TO HAVE A COUPLE OF THOSE SPOTS.

SO YEAH.

WHETHER WE GET IT THIS TIME OR, OR NEXT YEAR, IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, I THINK WE NEED TO PRIORITIZE.

RIGHT.

THANK YOU, MS. JUSTICE.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

YEAH.

I'LL ECHO COUNCILMAN CORCORAN'S POINT.

I THINK IT'S, IF WE DON'T GET IT THIS TIME, I THINK WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO APPLY FOR IT.

YOU KNOW, IT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT, UH, WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE.

UM, AND ON THAT SAME POINT, UH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, I'M, YOU'RE ALREADY CLEARLY THINKING ABOUT IT, BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONTINUE THINKING ABOUT GRANT OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE SOLAR PANELS.

IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE THEM.

I AGREE THAT $1.25 MILLION FOR NOT A HUGE RETURN IS, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE DOING THE COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS, UH, YOU KNOW, IT, IT, EVEN THOUGH WE WANNA BE AS SUSTAINABLE AS WE CAN,

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YOU KNOW, CAN WE PUT THAT MONEY TO BETTER USE SOMEWHERE ELSE? MM-HMM.

.

SO I, I GUESS I WOULD ENCOURAGE, YOU KNOW, SURELY AGAIN, WITH SOME OF THE STUFF THAT'S COMING OUT OF THE, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, NATIONAL GOVERNMENT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, I THINK PROBABLY GONNA BE GRANT OPPORTUNITIES FOR THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.

AND, UM, SO I WOULD, YOU KNOW, UM, THINK ABOUT WAYS THAT WE MIGHT PREPARE THAT SURFACE FOR, YOU KNOW, A FUTURE GRANT OPPORTUNITY.

IF WE CAN GET THEM, IT WILL.

UM, SO I THINK, I THINK THAT THAT'S A GOOD IDEA OF THE, THE FIVE THAT YOU PUT AS PROJECT ALTERNATIVES.

I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN DORIAN, THAT WE SHOULD PRIORITIZE THE, UM, THE PATIO.

I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THAT'S JUST A STAFF MORALE THING.

I MEAN, THEY'RE GONNA USE IT MORE THAN WE'LL USE IT FOR CITY FUNCTIONS.

AND I THINK THAT'S A GREAT SPACE FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO HAVE.

UM, SO I THINK WE SHOULD, SHOULD FOCUS ON THAT.

AND THEN, YEAH, I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA TOO TO SORT OF SPRUCE UP LEADERSHIP GROVE AND, YOU KNOW, WE WERE VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT KEEPING THAT WE SHOULD ENCOURAGE OUR FOLKS TO, TO WANT TO GO INTERACT WITH THAT SPACE TO THE EXTENT WE CAN.

SO, UM, I THINK THAT'S IT.

UM, BUT YEAH, KEEP, KEEP TRY AND FIND, FIND WAYS THAT WE CAN USE OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY TO, TO DO SOME OF THIS STUFF OF, BUT YOU'RE CLEARLY ALREADY THINKING ABOUT IT, COURSE.

SO I'LL JUST, UH, ENCOURAGE YOU TO KEEP DOING THAT.

THANK YOU, JENNIFER.

MR. CHU.

THANK YOU MR. JAMIR.

WELL, AGAIN, THANK YOU, CHARLES.

UH, YEAH, I MEAN, SOME OF THE POINT THAT HAS BEEN ALREADY SAID, UH, BUT I WOULD ADD A FEW THINGS, IS THAT, DO YOU KNOW WHAT KIND OF MATERIAL YOU'RE GONNA BE USING FOR THE ROOF TOP? I, NOT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, NO.

OKAY.

I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S GREAT.

I'M GLAD THAT IT HAS NOT BEEN DECIDED.

I WOULD HAVE GLAD ALSO IF IT HAD BEEN DECIDED EITHER WAY IS GOOD.

UH, I WOULD CONSIDER LOOK AT THAT COST BENEFIT OR, YOU KNOW, ANALYSIS THAT IF WE USE CERTAIN MATERIAL THAT WILL, THAT WOULD BE EXPENSIVE TODAY, BUT OVER 20 YEARS, THAT WOULD BE CHEAPER BECAUSE OF THE LESS MAINTENANCE.

SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU CAN USE TODAY, IT'S A CHEAPER, IT'LL GIVE YOU ENERGY EFFICIENCY, BUT, UH, THOSE ROOF GETS DAMAGED MORE FREQUENTLY AND LEAKS HAPPEN AND IT BECOMES VERY EXPENSIVE TO, YOU KNOW, MAINTAIN THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

SO I WOULD BE CAREFUL CHOOSING THE MATERIAL, UH, THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, USED FOR THE ROOF.

OKAY.

SO THAT'S ONE THING.

AND THEN ALSO I WOULD, I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE NOT DONE ANYTHING ON THOSE THING YET.

LIKE, UH, THE UTILITY, THE UNDERGROUND UTILITY THAT'S COMING TO THE BUILDING, MOST COMMON MISTAKE HAPPENED DURING THOSE TIME, AND THAT WOULD NOT BE FIGURED, YOU KNOW, POINT, YOU KNOW, FIND OUT UNTIL 50 OR 60 YEARS LATER, NOBODY'S GONNA BE, WELL, SOMEBODY WILL BE HERE THAT TIME, BUT NOT ME.

SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU PUT THE LINE INTO SOME AREA THAT IS GONNA BE EXPENSIVE TO REPAIR, SO IT'S BETTER NOT TO PUT THROUGH, RUN THE LINE THROUGH THOSE AREA, JUST VERY CAREFUL RUNNING THOSE LINES, CERTAIN AREA THAT WOULD BE EASY TO PREPARE MAINTENANCE.

SO THOSE ARE THE SMALL THINGS.

IF WE ARE CAREFUL TODAY, PUT IN NICE, YOU KNOW, CHECKLIST TO CHECK THOSE, THAT WOULD MAKE LIFE EASIER 60 YEARS OR 70 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD FOR SOMEONE ELSE.

SO THEY WOULD APPRECIATE THAT.

YEP.

AND, UH, THE OTHER THING THAT, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT COST IS GOING UP A LOT ON OVERALL PROJECTS.

UH, YOU KNOW, EVERY TIME I SEE THAT COST IS GOING UP, MY DREAM IS GOING DOWN A LITTLE BIT EVERY ITEMS, BUT WE SHOULD NOT LIMIT THE DREAM BECAUSE OF THE COST.

UH, THAT'S TODAY.

BUT IN THE FUTURE, THE COST, YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET MONEY TO DO CERTAIN THINGS.

SO I WOULD DESIGN CERTAIN THINGS SO THAT IN THE FUTURE WE CAN EASILY REPLACE.

ONE OF THE THINGS, YOU KNOW, IS ALREADY MENTIONED, THE SOLAR PANEL, THAT ON THE ROOF.

SO IF WE DESIGN THE ROOF, YOU KNOW, SUCH A WAY THAT'S MINOR, WE COULD HELP INSTALLATION OF THE SOLAR PLANT PANEL IN THE FUTURE WITH SOME GRANT AND THINGS.

UH, OTHERWISE IF WE, ANYONE HAS HOUSE, THEY DO REMODELING, YOU KNOW, THAT IF YOU TRY TO DO REMODELING, THAT WOULD BE VERY EXPENSIVE.

BUT IF YOU DO THE STUFF DURING NEW CONSTRUCTION, IT'S VERY CHEAP.

SO MINOR ADJUSTMENT OR, YOU KNOW, IF YOU DESIGN FOR THE FUTURE, THAT'S, THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO DESIGN SOMETHING.

BUT OTHERWISE IT'S VERY EASY.

WITH ALL I KNOW, YOU HAVE SO MANY THINGS TO COVER, IT'S EASILY TO FORGET CERTAIN THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, HEY, WE'RE GONNA DO IT IN THE FUTURE.

WE'RE GONNA HAVE LOTS OF MONEY IN THE FUTURE.

BUT ANYTHING, IF YOU CAN JUST SAVE SOMETHING FOR THE FUTURE, THAT'S, THAT'S GREAT.

UH, THE OTHER THINGS IS, I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, COUNCILMAN DORIAN HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT CAPTURING THE RAIN WATER.

IT'S A LUXURY ITEM TODAY BY LOOKING AT THE NUMBER.

BUT IF WE AT LEAST CAN DO A SMALL PORTION, SMALL AREA, THAT WOULD BE LIKE, UH, SOMETHING THAT SCHOOL

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KID COULD COME AND LOOK AT THIS THING.

IF WE HAVE A SMALL SYSTEM, UH, ON THE SIDE OF THE CITY HALL, THAT WOULD BE GREAT FOR THE, YOU KNOW, ANYONE, THE HOMEOWNERS, THEY WILL HAVE SOME IDEA WHAT THEY CAN DO INDIVIDUALLY.

UH, THAT'S SOMETHING I WOULD SEE THAT IF YOU CAN CONSIDER THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

HOPEFULLY, UH, WE CAN SEE SOMETHING HAPPEN THERE.

AND THEN HOW ABOUT THE, WE TALK ABOUT LOTS OF THINGS.

HOW ABOUT THE MOM'S ROOM, WHITE ROOM? DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING LIKE THAT IN THE BUILDING? YES.

YES.

WE'LL HAVE, WE'LL HAVE, UH, THOSE IN THE BUILDING AS WELL.

OKAY.

UH, AND RECENTLY, YOU KNOW, AS PART OF THE LEADERSHIP NORTEX HOUSE, WE VISITED, UM, THE FIDELITY CENTER, UH, THAT'S THE 300 OR SOMETHING PLANNED.

THEY HAVE THE FACILITY.

UH, YEAH.

I MEAN, UH, EVEN THEY HAVE A SOLAR SYSTEM FOR THE BUILDING THAT'S ABOUT 13 ACRE LAND THEY USE.

SO IF WE HAVE LAND, IF WE HAVE ALL THIS MONEY AVAILABLE, OF COURSE WE COULD HAVE DONE THIS THING HERE.

BUT WE HAVE LIMITED LAND, LIMITED MONEY AND BUDGET.

UH, SO WE ARE TRYING TO DO EVERYTHING.

UH, SO I UNDERSTAND THAT.

ONE THING I LIKE THERE ALSO THAT THEY HAD OFFICE SPACES.

UH, IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, SOME GENERATION, THEY LIKE OPEN SPACE.

SOME GENERATION, THEY LIKE CUBICLES.

SOME GENERATION, THEY LIKE OFFICE ROOM.

SO THEY HAD ALL DIFFERENT KIND OF OFFICE IN THE BUILDING.

AND THE EMPLOYEE CAN CHOOSE THAT.

OKAY.

WHETHER THEY WANT TO GO, WHICH AREA, IT'S, I KNOW THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN HERE, BUT ONE THING THEY HAVE IN COMMON THAT THEY HAVE A COMMON AREA THAT THEY COULD JUST SIT IN A LOUNGE AREA.

THEY CAN GET OUT FROM THEIR CUBICLES AND SIT OUTSIDE.

THEY DON'T HAVE TO WALK FAR TO THE BALCONY.

THEY COULD WALK NEARBY.

SOME PLACES HAVE FEW, FEW OF THEM SIT TOGETHER AND TALK.

IT COULD BE ANY TALK, IT COULD BE SOME PROJECT TALK INSTEAD OF TRYING TO CRAMP INTO THE SMALL CUBICLE WITH OTHER, YOU KNOW, COLLEAGUE.

SO IF YOU HAVE SOME, YOU KNOW, OPEN UP SOME AREA IN THE, IN THE, IN THE BUILDING, NOT JUST THE BUILDING THE FLOOR, THEY COULD COME AND SEE.

IT COULD BE, I DON'T KNOW, FIND OUT WHAT, WHAT'S THE BEST WAY.

PRODUCTIVITY WILL GO UP A LOT, UH, IF YOU HAVE THAT KIND OF ENVIRONMENT.

UH, AND OF COURSE THAT ALTERNATE IDEA THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THAT TWO THINGS, SOME OF THE THINGS PROBABLY IS BETTER TO DO IT TODAY, ESPECIALLY THE BALCONY.

AND, UH, OF COURSE THE, THE PARKING LOT REPAIR, THOSE ARE MANDATORY.

YOU HAVE TO DO IT.

MM-HMM.

, UH, SOME OF THE COST IS GONNA BE THERE.

SO I'M SURE SOME OF THE COST WOULD BE ADDED BECAUSE OF THOSE IDEA, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE VERY CHEAP DOING IT TODAY VERSUS DOWN THE ROAD.

THANK YOU.

YES.

THANK YOU.

TO YOUR POINT ON, ON HAVING A, A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT SEATING AREAS, WE, WE DO THAT TO, TO A CERTAIN EXTENT.

SO, UM, YOU CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, PRIMARILY CUBICLES, BUT, BUT INTERSPERSED THROUGH THE CUBICLES.

WE HAVE KIND OF A, A LIVING ROOM SEATING AREA HERE.

WE HAVE KIND OF A, A BANQUETTE KIND OF SEATING AREA HERE.

UM, OBVIOUSLY YOUR MORE FORMAL CONFERENCE ROOMS, THERE'S SOME CALL ROOMS TOO, IN CASE YOU NEED TO GO SOMEWHERE.

JUST HAVE SOME QUIET, UH, FOR A LITTLE BIT AS WELL.

UM, KIND OF, UH, A, ANOTHER KIND OF LOUNGE AREA HERE, SOME STANDING COLLABORATIVE AREAS HERE.

SO WE TRIED TO ADD IN A, A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT KINDS OF, OF, OF WORK ENVIRONMENTS.

SO, UH, IF PEOPLE DO NEED TO, YOU KNOW, GET UP FROM THEIR, THEIR WORKSTATION FOR A LITTLE BIT, THEY HAVE A, A SOME CHOICES OF WHERE TO GO TO.

IT MAKES SENSE FOR WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO.

THAT'S GREAT AND WONDERFUL.

I THINK YOU'RE FORWARD THINKING ANYWAY.

APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU MR. HUTCHER.

ROGER.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

UM, CHARLES, GREAT PRESENTATION.

TWO QUESTIONS.

GOING BACK TO THE, UM, GENERATOR FOR JUST A MOMENT.

ARE WE SIZING IT TO BE ABLE TO POWER THE WHOLE BUILDING, INCLUDING HEAT AND AIR CONDITIONING? YES.

OKAY, GREAT.

UM, NEXT QUESTION, GIVEN THAT WE ARE, WE'VE ALL TALKED ABOUT THE IDEA THAT THIS BUILDING IS A 50 PLUS YEAR BUILDING, I'M NOT SEEING ANYWHERE WHERE WE CAN, CAN DO ANY KIND OF, OF EXPANSION WITHIN THE FOUR FOUR WALLS OF THE, OF WHAT YOU'RE SHOWING US HERE THIS EVENING.

DID, DID I MISS IT? OR IS THERE ANY THOUGHTS ALONG THOSE LINES? 'CAUSE I'M, I REMEMBER OUR, OUR VERY OWN CITY MANAGER, I THINK WE STUCK HIM IN A CLOSET WHEN HE FIRST STARTED HERE.

AT LEAST THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE LIVING LEGEND THAT'S CONSTANTLY, CONSTANTLY TOLD.

AND THAT I'D HATE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF LIKE WHAT THE MAYOR PRO TIM SAID 50 YEARS FROM NOW, I WON'T BE HERE EITHER, BUT I WOULD HOPE THAT SOMEBODY DOESN'T LOOK BACK ON US AND GO, WOW, WHAT WERE THEY THINKING? THERE WAS, THERE WAS NO ROOM THAT WE COULD EXPAND ANYWHERE.

SO I, I JUST, I, I DON'T, I'M, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE, YOU KNOW, ARE WE STRUCTURAL, ARE WE STRUCTURALLY SETTING IT UP? MAYBE IF IT'S NOT WITHIN THESE FOUR WALLS, ARE WE STRUCTURALLY SETTING ANYTHING WHERE WE COULD PUT A FOURTH FLOOR IF WE NEEDED TO OR EXPAND

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WHAT, WHATEVER, UH, LATERALLY I WOULD CALL IT.

UM, I, I JUST DIDN'T HEAR THAT.

'CAUSE I, I, I'D HATE TO, TO TO THINK THAT WE'RE LOCKED IN FOR THE NEXT 50, 60 YEARS IN WHAT WE'RE SEEING TONIGHT.

SO I JUST WANTED TO ASK THAT, ASK THAT QUESTION.

YEAH.

SO, SO WITHIN THE, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE BUILDING, UH, WE'VE, WE'VE ESTIMATED THAT WE'VE ACCOMMODATED GROWTH FOR ABOUT 43 POSITIONS, UH, WITHIN THE CURRENT FLOOR PLAN, UH, AND WORKSTATION SIZES.

UM, WE THINK THAT'LL GET US WELL DOWN THE ROAD INTO THE FUTURE.

UM, THEN WE CAN EXPLORE, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE FIRST THING WE EXPLORE IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT IS THE APPROPRIATE WORKSTATION SIZE AT THAT MOMENT IN TIME, UM, TO SEE IF, IF THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL EFFICIENCIES THERE.

UM, WE COULD LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, CONFERENCE ROOMS IN THE FUTURE.

UH, WILL WE BE MEETING IN PERSON AS MUCH AS, AS WE'RE PLANNING FOR HERE? I DON'T KNOW.

UM, I, IF WE DO ULTIMATELY HAVE TO, UM, LOOK AT EXPANSIONS TO THE BUILDING, UH, WE FEEL THAT THE, THE MOST, UM, COST EFFECTIVE WAY TO DO THAT WOULD BE TO ADD AN EXTENSION ONTO THE BUILDING ON THE, THE EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING.

SO IN BETWEEN THE BUILDING AND, UM, 75.

SO THAT, THAT'S, THAT WOULD BE OUR PLAN FOR, UM, SO OVER INTO, TO THIS AREA.

MM-HMM.

.

SO WE JUST KIND OF PUSH THE FIRE LANE OVER POTENTIALLY AND JUST EXTEND ONTO THE BUILDING.

OKAY.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, KEITH.

CURTIS.

THANK YOU.

I REMEMBER HAD A FEW MORE QUESTIONS.

UM, ON THE INTERIOR, YOU MENTIONED IN THE LOBBY, THAT'S TERRAZZO AND THERE'S A COPPER METAL BRASS, UH, RECESS OR A MM-HMM, INSET IN BETWEEN, JUST TO SEPARATE, TO GIVE IT SOME KIND OF ARCHITECTURAL DETAIL.

MM-HMM.

.

AND IT'S A COPPER, NOT A, UH, IT'S, UH, IT'S BRASS, ACTUALLY.

A BRASS.

OKAY, GREAT.

YEAH, THAT'LL LOOK NICE.

UM, ON THE EXTERIOR, THE CANOPY OVER THE ENTRY.

I KNOW, UH, PER, UH, COUNCILMAN CHEN RIDER'S QUESTION ON THE COPPER, IS THIS AN ALLOY OR IS THIS A, A METALLIC METAL PAINT, OR IS IT SOME TYPE OF POLY APPLICATION? WHAT, WHAT'S THE MATERIAL YOU USE? THE MICROPHONE.

MICROPHONE.

OH, SORRY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

UM, IT'S A, UM, A LITTLE ALUMINUM THAT HAS A POWER POWDERED COATED MATERIAL ON IT THAT EMULATES THE COLOR OF COPPER.

OKAY.

SO IT IT'S BAKED ON THEN.

SO YES, IT'S, IT HAS A LONG LIFESPAN YES.

OF SUSTAINABILITY.

YES.

OKAY.

YEAH.

I THOUGHT MAYBE IT MIGHT BE KIND OF AN ALLOY MATERIAL, WHICH IS VERY POPULAR.

GREAT.

UM, THE OTHER QUESTION IS, ARE WE LOOKING AT PROVIDING THIS, UH, AS A LEAD GENERATED PROJECT, OR HAS THAT BEEN DISCUSSED? UH, WE, WE TYPICALLY HAVEN'T, UH, EXPLORED LEAD CERTIFICATION.

A A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT WOULD'VE GOTTEN YOU LEAD CERTIFICATION, UH, PREVIOUSLY ARE JUST NOW IN THAT 2021, UH, ENERGY CONSERVATION CODE.

SO WE'D HAVE TO BE EVEN MORE KIND OF BLEEDING EDGE, UH, TO, TO, TO PURSUE LEAD CERTIFICATION.

SO, UH, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT, THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, UH, PURSUING FOR THIS PROJECT.

IS IT A POSSIBILITY TO BRING THAT BACK TO THE TABLE TO SEE WHAT, UH, AND I UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF DESIGN PROJECT, YOU HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU SWITCH FOR, UH, DURING THE CODE REQUIREMENTS.

'CAUSE I'VE CERTAINLY BEEN INVOLVED WITH THAT AS WELL.

BUT, UH, WOULD IT BE A LOT OF ADDITIONAL ITEMS TO, UH, INCORPORATE AND WOULD WA WOULD ONE OF THE WATER, UH, CAPTURING ELEMENTS BE A PART OF THAT? UM, IT DOES TAKE, UH, A LOT OF ADDITIONAL PAPERWORK AND, UM, THERE IS AN ADDED COST TO PROCEEDING WITH THAT.

UM, AND THERE ARE DEFINITELY A LONGER LIST OF ITEMS THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE, UM, ADDRESSING.

SO HISTORICALLY, WE, WE SAY WE'RE LEAD, LIKE, BECAUSE WE DO, UM, WE INCORPORATE INTO THE DESIGN, AND THIS GOES ALL THE WAY BACK, UH, THROUGH THE PUBLIC SAFETY CAMPUS, THROUGH OUR RECENT FIRE STATIONS.

WE INCORPORATE ALL THE ELEMENTS THAT HAVE THE GREATEST RETURN.

BUT, UM, THERE'S TO, TO THE POINT OF THE ADDITIONAL LAUNDRY LIST OF THINGS THAT YOU DO AND THE HOOPS THAT YOU HAVE TO JUMP THROUGH, THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT YOU'RE ASKED TO DO THAT DON'T BENEFIT, HAVE A GREAT BENEFIT, AND DON'T HAVE A LOT OF RETURN.

AND THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE TRY TO NOT, UH, BOTHER OURSELVES WITH BECAUSE THEY, THEY DON'T HAVE THAT, THAT BENEFIT.

AND SO, UM, AGAIN, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR THE BETTER PART NOW OF PROBABLY, UM, 15 YEARS, WE'VE TRIED TO SAY WE WANNA BE LEAD LIKE IN ALL THE THINGS THAT REALLY MATTER AND THAT ARE CONSEQUENTIAL, BUT NOT SO MUCH IN SPENDING TIME DOING THINGS THAT WON'T HAVE THAT BIG OF A PAYBACK.

PLUS, THERE IS A, THERE IS A LENGTHY APPLICATION PROCESS AND, UM, JUST THE COST OF THE CERTIFICATION ITSELF, UM, IS,

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IS SOMETHING THAT'S, THAT'S CONSEQUENTIAL.

AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I I, I THINK IT'S A GREAT QUESTION, BUT WE HAVEN'T SEEN THE BENEFIT OTHER THAN THE, THE DESIGNATION.

WE HAVEN'T SEEN THE BENEFIT TO, UM, THE LEAD, LEAD CERTIFICATION.

UM, YES, I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND I KNOW IT'S A LONG PROCESS OF GETTING LEAD CERTIFIED, BUT I LIKE THE LEAD, LIKE OR LEAD LIGHT POSSIBLY, AND CREATING SUSTAINABLE MATERIALS AND, UH, WHERE, YOU KNOW, IT'S CONS, THE CONSERVATION PORTION OF IT.

SO I, I APPRECIATE, YOU KNOW, YOU LOOK AT ALL THOSE MATERIALS AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS I'M ASKING MAINLY ALSO TO LET PEOPLE THAT ARE WATCHING OUT THERE, UH, UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THOSE DETAILS.

SO, AND AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO CLOSE BY SAYING I DO WANT TO TRY TO REITERATE THERE'S A POSSIBILITY OF PUTTING IN A SMALL AMOUNT OF WATER CONSERVATION IN THAT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, CURTIS.

MR. CHU, UH, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

I JUST COULDN'T STOP MAKING THIS COMMENT THAT THE EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING THAT YOU JUST MENTIONED, THAT THERE'S A POSSIBILITY OF EXPANSION.

THAT'S, THAT, THAT'S GREAT BECAUSE THAT LOOKS LIKE INCOMPLETE TODAY.

UH, THAT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR EXPANSION.

YES.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. RICHARD RUDDER.

ONE LAST QUESTION MADE ME THINK ABOUT IT IN REGARDS TO THE EXPANSION OF WHAT WOULD, WHAT WOULD, UH, I, I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT WOULD BE ON THAT SIDE OF THE BUILDING.

I KNOW WE CAN NEVER 100% GUARANTEE, BUT WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE HAVE ON THAT SIDE OF THE BUILDING, IS IT, UM, IS IT TIMELESS SO THAT WE DON'T, IF WE HAD TO ADD ONTO THE BUILDING, IT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE SOURCED OR REPRODUCED AT A REASONABLE COST.

SO WE DON'T MAKE THE BUILDING LOOK MY WORDS FUNNY BY HAVING TWO DIFFERENT EXTERIORS ON IT IF WE HAD TO EXPAND.

SO TH THIS, THIS ELEVATION IS, IS, IS COMPLETELY, UM, THE PRECAST CONCRETE PANELS.

OKAY.

SO THOSE ARE COMPLETELY OKAY.

THANK YOU.

I, I, I WASN'T SURE.

I, I COULDN'T, COULDN'T QUITE TELL.

THANKS.

THANK YOU COUNSEL.

CHARLES, GREAT PRESENTATION.

I THINK WE ALL ARE GENUINELY EXCITED ABOUT THIS AND, UM, WE APPRECIATE YOUR HARD WORK AND I MEAN, IT'S A, IT'S A THING OF BEAUTY.

SO LET'S SEE WHAT, WHERE WE GO FROM HERE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE.

YOU BET.

ALRIGHT,

[7. REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE FY 2024-2025 WATER/WASTEWATER MAINTENANCE STRATEGIES]

AT THIS TIME WE'RE GONNA GO TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN ON THE, UH, DOCKET REVIEW AND DISCUSS PHYSICAL YEAR 20 24, 25, WATER MASTER WATER MAINTENANCE AND STRATEGIES.

MR. MAGGART.

UH, THANKS, MAYOR.

MIND COUNSEL, UM, ERIC ROBESON, OUR DIRECTOR OF, UH, PUBLIC SERVICES, AS WELL AS BRAD BERN HUT, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR AND ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING CAPITAL PRO PROJECT, NICK COLE ARE GONNA JOIN IN ON, ON THIS PRESENTATION.

UM, OBVIOUSLY, UH, BUILDING ON THE, THE, THE, UH, NORTH TEXAS MISSILE WATER DISTRICT'S, UH, BRIEFING FROM A FEW WEEKS AGO.

UM, OUR WATER, UM, UH, WATER, UH, RATES, UH, WATER INFRASTRUCTURE REINVESTMENT, UM, ALL, UM, ALWAYS HAVE A HIGH INTEREST TO THE COMMUNITY.

UM, AND SO ERIC'S GONNA RUN US THROUGH A SUMMARY OF, UM, THIS YEAR'S WORK PLAN, WHERE WE STAND AND, AND HOW WE'RE PERFORMING.

AND THEN DO A OUTLOOK, UH, AND THEN NICK WILL COME UP AND DO THE SAME FOR, UH, FOR WASTEWATER.

SO, ERIC, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. BAGGER.

MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL.

IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE TONIGHT TO GO THROUGH OUR WATER AND WASTEWATER MAINTENANCE STRATEGIES WITH YOU, UH, LISTED THERE IS OUR STRATEGIC GOAL AND OUR CITY COUNCIL TACTICS THAT THIS PRESENTATION IS GOING TO COVER.

AS WE DO THIS, ALL OF OUR GUIDING PRINCIPLES IS TO COMPLY WITH ALL FEDERAL, STATE, AND LOCAL REGULATIONS.

DO THINGS THAT WILL EFFICIENTLY, EFFECTIVELY MANAGE, OPERATE, AND MAINTAIN ALL PARTS OF OUR DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM.

UH, MAINTAIN OUR SUPERIOR WATER SYSTEM RATING WITH TCQ.

UH, WE DID HAVE AN INSPECTION THIS YEAR, AND I EXPECT THAT TO CONTINUE ON THIS YEAR AS WELL.

UH, PROVIDE ADEQUATE CAPACITY TO DELIVER WATER DURING PEAK PERIODS OF DEMAND, UH, WHILE MOVING THAT WATER THROUGH THE DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM EXPEDITIOUSLY AS POSSIBLE TO ENSURE WATER QUALITY.

UM, OBVIOUSLY WE'D LIKE TO COORDINATE WITH OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS, REGIONAL DEVELOPMENT PART DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS, UH, FOR STRATEGIC CAPITAL PLANNING, UM, AND TIMELY PROJECT DELIVERY, UH, TO ACCOMMODATE FUTURE SYSTEM DEMANDS.

AND THEN, AS MR. MAGNUM MENTIONED, CONTINUE TO CLOSELY PARTNER WITH NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT ON WATER RELATED PROJECTS TO GO THROUGH THE MAINTENANCE AND CAPITAL STRATEGIES.

UH, GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF WATER SYSTEM OVERVIEW.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT OUR MAINTENANCE PLAN.

WE'LL LOOK AT SOME OF THE FUNDING SOURCES, UM, ON AN OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE SIDE, AND ALSO ON A CAPITAL PLAN SIDE.

UM, ALSO WANNA GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON OUR WATER MODEL AND MASTER PLAN.

UM, WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS SOME OF OUR, UH, LEAD AND COPPER RULE REVISIONS THAT HAVE, THAT HAVE COME TO FRUITION, AND THEN, UM, SOME OF OUR ENVIRONMENTAL OUTREACH THAT WE'RE PLANNING ON DOING AS WELL.

SO HERE'S OUR WATER SYSTEM.

UH, WE'VE GOT A NETWORK OF ABOUT ALMOST 600 WATER MAIN MILES OF WATER.

MAIN, UH, 15,000 VALVES, 4,800 HYDRANTS, ABOUT 37,000 SERVICE CONNECTIONS.

UM, ALL SERVICED BY FIVE PUMP STATIONS, 15 WATER STORAGE FACILITIES WITH A FIRM

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CAPACITY OF 60 MILLION GALLONS A DAY.

A FIRM CAPACITY WOULD, WOULD BE IF YOU TOOK OUR LARGEST PUMP OUT OF THE PUMP STATION.

WHAT'S THE CAPACITY AT THAT POINT? THAT, THAT'S FIRM CAPACITY, THAT'S A REQUIREMENT OF TCQ.

YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT.

UM, BUT AS WE FINISH THE A 25 PRESSURE ZONE PROJECT, THAT'S NICK WILL GO INTO A LITTLE BIT LATER, UM, THAT WILL GO TO SIX PUMP STATIONS, 16, UH, WATER STORAGE FACILITIES, UM, AND INCREASE OUR FIRM CAPACITY TO 75 MGD ONCE THAT PROJECT'S COMPLETE.

UM, WE GOT ABOUT 4,200 CALLS FOR SERVICE WITHIN THE DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM.

AND, UH, IN THE LAST 12 MONTHS, ABOUT 233 WATER LEAKS.

HERE'S OUR OPERATIONS FUNDING, UM, LAST TWO YEARS, ACTUAL NUMBERS AND OUR PROJECTION TO BE ABOUT 1.5 THIS YEAR.

UM, AGAIN, THIS IS THE MAINTENANCE FUNDING FOR OUR WATER FACILITY.

SO OUR ELEVATED TANKS, OUR GROUND STORAGE TANKS, PUMP STATION MAINTENANCE, UH, WATER MAINS, UH, VALVES.

AND THIS IS REALLY OUR SMALL VALVES, WHICH ARE GONNA BE ANYTHING 14 INCH AND UNDER, UM, IS KINDA WHAT WE DO FROM AN OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE SIDE.

UM, OUR HYDRANT REPAIR AND REPLACEMENT, UH, PROGRAM.

AND THEN OUR, UH, METER MAINTENANCE, WHICH IS, THIS IS JUST NOT, WE'LL GET TO THE METER REPLACEMENT PROGRAM LATER, BUT THIS IS METER MAINTENANCE.

SO IF YOU HAVE TO GO OUT AND FIX A GASKET OR A CURB STOPPER LOOP, THIS IS REALLY JUST STRAIGHT OPERATIONS COST HERE.

UM, SO WE'RE PROJECTING 1.5, UH, MILLION DOLLARS THIS YEAR.

UM, THE MAINTENANCE PLAN UPDATES, WHAT RELATED TO THOSE FUNDS IS WE DID SOME PACKING CONVERSIONS AT OUR SHALLOW PUMP STATION.

UH, WE REPLACED A SUCTION VALVE AT OUR NORTH SIDE PUMP STATION THAT'S COMPLETE.

UH, WE'RE DOING SOME WORK AT OUR NORTH STAR NORTH, UH, CONTROL VALVE THERE OFF NORTH STAR, UH, DOING SOME VAULT REHAB THAT'S IN PROGRESS AT EAST SIDE.

AND THEN WE'RE ACTUALLY INSTALLING A GENERATED OUR NORTH SIDE ELEVATED STORAGE TANK.

SO THAT'S ALSO, UH, IN PROGRESS.

UM, THEN WE'RE PERFORMING OUR HYDRANT MAINTENANCE, UH, WHERE WE HAVE A CONTRACTOR COME IN AND WE'RE DOING ABOUT 800 THIS YEAR.

UM, AND IF YOU REMEMBER, UM, WE HAVE A CONTRACTOR COMES IN, THEY OPERATE THE HYDRANT, THEY FLOW THE HYDRANT, MAKE SURE IT'S WORKING PROPERLY, AND THEN THEY PAINT THE HYDRANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S THE PROPER COLOR THAT COORDINATES WITH THE MAIN THAT IT'S ATTACHED TO HERE IN RICHARDSON.

SO THEY DO THAT THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE SYSTEM ULTIMATELY, BUT WE'RE GONNA DO 800 THIS YEAR.

UM, AND IF YOU CAN REMEMBER, THIS IS OUR SECOND ORBIT IN 2023, WE FINISHED THE FIRST COMPLETE ORBIT.

SO WITHIN THE LAST FIVE YEARS, WE'VE TOUCHED EVERY SINGLE HYDRANT WITHOUT THE SYSTEM AND PERFORM THIS MAINTENANCE ON IT.

AND IF DURING THAT MAINTENANCE WE FOUND THAT IT NEEDS TO BE REPAIRED OR REPLACED, AND WE CAN GO AHEAD AND SCHEDULE THAT AND GET THAT REPLACED.

UM, WE'VE DONE 76 REPLACEMENTS THIS YEAR.

UM, EITHER THAT THE CONTRACTOR FOUND OR A VEHICLE ACCIDENT, ANYTHING THAT MIGHT CAUSE THOSE HYDRANTS TO BE OUTTA SERVICE, UH, WE'LL GET THOSE TAKEN CARE OF.

OUR MAINTENANCE PLAN FOR NEXT YEAR, OUR PROPOSED MAINTENANCE PLAN FOR NEXT YEAR.

UH, I'M GONNA INCREASE IN WATER FACILITIES.

UM, THAT'S LARGELY TO REPLACE SOME FENCES, AND I'LL GO THROUGH THAT LIST HERE.

UM, THERE'S OUR WATER MAINS AND VALVE REPAIR, AGAIN, OUR HYDRANT REPAIR AND REPLACEMENT.

AND THEN, UH, METER MAINTENANCE THERE AREA.

AND OUR PROPOSED MAINTENANCE PLAN FOR NEXT YEAR IS TO DO A FLOW METER AT OUR WEST SIDE PUMP STATION.

UH, WE'VE GOT SOME OLD VENTURI METERS, IF YOU WILL.

WE'LL GO TO A MAG METER, WHICH IS A MUCH MORE EFFICIENT WAY OF READING THE WATER FLOW COMING OUTTA THE PUMP STATION.

SO WE INTEND ON REPLACING THAT FLOW METER NEXT YEAR.

UM, SOME HATCH REPLACEMENTS TO GET INSIDE THE STORAGE TANKS AT NORTH SIDE AND WEST SIDE.

SOME MORE VALVE WORK ON OUR NORTH STAR SOUTH VALVE.

UM, DO SOME WORK ON OUR RENTER TOWER.

UM, CURRENTLY ARE PLANNING TO PUT A GENERATOR ALSO AT OUR COPPER RIDGE WATER TOWER.

UM, AND THEN THE FENCE REPLACEMENTS THAT I MISS WITH A LARGE PORTION OF THAT INCREASE IS TO REPLACE THE FENCE AT COPPER RIDGE AND HOLLY ELEVATE STORAGE TANKS AGAIN.

AND LET'S CONTINUE TO HAVE A CONTRACTOR COME BACK IN NEXT YEAR, CONTINUE THE SAME PROCESS OF COMPLETING WORKING THROUGH THAT SECOND ORBIT TO DO, UH, TESTING AND SERVICING ABOUT 800 HYDRANTS.

AND THEN IF THEY REPAIR OR REPLACE ANY IDENTIFIED HYDRANTS THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

I WANNA STOP DOWN HERE AND JUST KIND OF GO OVER OUR WATER MODEL AND MASTER PLAN.

UH, PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND AND PROVIDE YOU YOU WITH AN UPDATE.

UM, YOU KNOW, THE PURPOSE OF THE WATER MASTER PLAN IS TO PROVIDE SHORT AND LONG-TERM GUIDANCE OF OUR, OUR WATER DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM AND REALLY DEVELOP A CAPITAL PLAN.

UH, WE'LL USE THIS INFORMATION WE GET FROM THIS REPORT TO REALLY BUILD OUT OUR FIVE YEAR CIP, UM, ON THE WATER DISTRIBUTION SIDE.

UM, THE HYDRAULIC MODEL WILL ALLOW US TO EVALUATE CERTAIN SCENARIOS TO TROUBLESHOOT POTENTIAL ISSUES WITHIN THE SYSTEM.

IT'LL GIVE US SOME FIRE FLOW ANALYSIS, WE CAN EVALUATE CAPACITY FOR NEW DEVELOPS, AND WE CAN JUST STREAMLINE OUR OPERATIONS.

UM, SO IT'LL BE NICE TO HAVE THIS MODEL, UM, COMPLETE.

AND, AND AGAIN, IT'S A WATER MASTER PLANT IS ONE OF YOUR CURRENT COUNCIL TACTICS.

UM, A LITTLE BACKGROUND, WE, WE FREEZE.

AND NICHOLS IS THE ENGINEERING FIRM THAT, UH, CURRENTLY RUNS AND OPERATES OUR WATER MODEL.

WE HAVE AN ANNUAL CONTRACT WITH THEM.

ANYTIME WE NEED TO RUN A SCENARIO, WE CAN CONTACT THEM.

SO WE ENTERED INTO AGREEMENT WITH THEM TO PROVIDE US WITH THIS WATER MODEL AND MASTER PLAN UPDATE.

UM, CURRENTLY CEDAR STAFF'S BEEN PROVIDING DATA TO ASSIST IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF BOTH OF THESE, THE HYDRAULIC MODEL AND THE POTENTIAL CAPITAL RECOMMENDATIONS.

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THOSE THINGS ARE SUCH LIKE GIS UPDATE INFORMATION, UPDATED SYSTEM PRESSURE.

SO LAST SUMMER WE PUT PRESSURE REGULATORS THROUGHOUT THEIR ENTIRE CITY AND THEY MONITOR PRESSURES THROUGH CERTAIN DIFFERENT DEMAND SCENARIOS.

UM, SO THEY WERE ABLE TO COLLECT THAT DATA.

UM, THEY'VE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH KEITH CRU AND THE COMP PLAN.

SO ALL THE POPULATION AND DEMAND PROJECTIONS THAT WE'RE USING FOR THAT PLAN IS ALSO BEING PLUGGED INTO, UM, THIS WATER MODEL MASTER PLAN, UM, AND, AND HYDRAULIC MODEL.

AND THEN, UM, WE'VE GOTTA DO SOME PUMP FIELD TEST DATA.

WE'RE GONNA DO THAT THIS SUMMER.

UH, WE HAVE TO RUN ALL THE PUMPS TO GET PUMP CURVE DATA, SO WE HAVE TO HAVE HIGHER DEMANDS.

SO WE HAVE TO KIND OF WAIT UNTIL THESE SUMMER DEMANDS PICK UP TO GET THAT FIELD DATA SO WE CAN PROVIDE THAT TO THEM.

UM, BUT ALL THE OTHER INFORMATION'S ALREADY BEEN PROVIDED, SO THEY CAN ALREADY START KIND OF BUILDING THE MODEL BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT THEY'VE BEEN GIVEN.

UM, AND THEN WE, WE, WE EXPECT TO HAVE THE, THE MODEL CALIBRATION AND THE DRAFT MASTER PLAN, UM, IN THE FALL OF THIS YEAR.

UM, AND THEN WE'RE EXCITED TO ANNOUNCE THAT ONCE THAT'S COMPLETE.

UM, BRAD BERNHARDT, WHO'S IN THE AUDIENCE WITH ME HERE TODAY, AND THEN BRADLEY DEW, WHO'S MY UTILITY SUPERINTENDENT, WILL THEN BE TRAINED, UM, TO USE AND OPERATE THIS HYDRAULIC MODEL.

SO WE'LL HAVE INTERNAL STAFF THAT CAN RUN THESE SCENARIOS AND WORK, WORK THROUGHOUT THE MODEL, UM, INSTEAD OF HAVING TO USE A CONSULTANT TO DO SO.

UH, ANOTHER TOPIC THAT WE WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, FOR CONSIDERATION, UM, AND POTENTIAL IMPACTS IT'LL HAVE ON A, ON A CITY IS, UM, THE EPA HAS WHAT'S CALLED A LEAD AND COPPER RULE.

UH, THE LEAD AND COPPER RULE WAS ESTABLISHED IN 1991, UM, WITH CERTAIN REGULATIONS WITH THE INTENT TO JUST REMOVE AS MANY CONTROL LEAD CONTAMINANTS THAT'S WITHIN DRINKING WATER.

UM, SO THEY PUT CERTAIN REGULATIONS ON IT.

THERE'S BEEN PREVIOUS REVISIONS TO THIS RULE.

UM, I'VE LISTED SOME OF THE RELIGIONS THERE THAT LARGELY JUST INCLUDED, YOU KNOW, MONITORING, YOU KNOW, UH, MONITORING CERTAIN LEAD LEVEL RULES OR, OR CERTAIN CONTAMINANTS WITHIN THE WATER.

UM, CERTAIN TREATMENT, WHICH WE DON'T DO, BUT THERE MIGHT BE SOME TREATMENT REQUIREMENTS OVER THOSE REVISIONS.

AND THEN PUBLIC EDUCATION, EDUCATING THE PUBLIC, THAT'S BEEN THE LARGE KIND OF MANDATES THAT HAVE BEEN PUT FORTH ON LEAD COPPER RULE.

UM, WHAT DOES IT MEAN CURRENTLY FOR US? WELL, WE WE'RE CURRENTLY ON WHAT WE CALL A TRI-ANNUAL.

EVERY THREE YEARS WE HAVE TO PROVIDE LEAD AND COPPER SAMPLES AT 50 LOCATIONS.

UM, AND AS LONG AS OUR ACTION LEVELS STAY BELOW THE 0.015 MILLIGRAMS PER LITER, WE REMAIN ON THAT TRI-ANNUAL SAMPLE SCHEDULE.

SO THAT'S CURRENTLY WHAT WE'RE ON.

SO WE'VE NEVER EXCEEDED THAT 0.015 MILLIGRAM PER LITER, UH, REGULATION.

BUT THE A PA HAS ANNOUNCED THAT THEY'RE, AND THEY PUBLISHED, UH, THE LEAD AND COPPER RULE REVISION IN 2021.

UM, THERE WAS AN UPDATED REVISION IN SEPTEMBER OF 2023, AND THE GOAL IS TO ESSENTIALLY ELIMINATE ALL LEAD SERVICE LINES FROM A PUBLIC WATER SYSTEM.

UM, SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR RICHARDSON? WELL, CURRENTLY, THE EPA MANDATE IS SAYING THAT THE NEW LEAD AND COPPER RULE REVISION IS GOING TO REQUIRE ALL CITIES, INCLUDING RICHARDSON, TO DO A SERVICE LINE INVENTORY.

SO WE HAVE TO KNOW WHAT'S THE SERVICE LINE ON THE PUBLIC SIDE, AND WHAT'S THE SERVICE LINE MATERIAL ON THE PRIVATE SIDE.

UM, SO THERE'S CERTAIN WAYS TO DO THAT.

UM, BUT ONCE WE DEFINE THAT INVENTORY, THAT INVENTORY MUST BE PUBLISHED ON A, ON AN INTERACTIVE WEBSITE, UH, VIEWABLE AND ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC.

SO SOMEBODY CAN GO ON THERE, LOOK AT THEIR ADDRESS, AND THEY CAN FIND OUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT TYPE SERVICE LINES DO THEY HAVE COMING INTO THEIR HOUSE, AND THEN BEYOND THE METER.

AND THEN ONCE THE, ONCE WE HAVE THAT INVENTORY, ONCE IT'S POSTED, WE HAVE TO CATEGORIZE INTO FOUR CATEGORIES.

WE HAVE TO LIST IT AS EITHER NON LEAD, LEAD, GALVANIZE REQUIRING REPLACEMENT, WHICH MEANS JUST TO GALVANIZE LINE THAT HAS CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS THAT SAYS YOU MUST REPLACE IT.

UM, AND THEN UNKNOWN, UNKNOWN MEANING THAT I HAVE, I HAVE NOT HAD ANY MEANS TO IDENTIFY WHAT THAT LINE MATERIAL IS EITHER PRIOR TO THE METER OR AFTER THE METER.

SO YOU HAVE TO LIST THOSE FOUR CATEGORIES.

IF YOU LIST THOSE, THAT LINE AS EITHER LEAD OR IT'S UNKNOWN, SO UNKNOWN MIGHT BE PERCEIVED AS AS LEAD, WELL THEN THAT'S GONNA ACTIVATE SOME PUBLIC NOTIFICATIONS THAT WE HAVE TO DO.

UM, SO WE'LL HAVE TO NOTIFY EVERY ONE OF THOSE SERVICE LINES USING LEAD HEALTH EFFECTS LANGUAGE PROVIDED BY THE EPA.

UM, SO RIGHT NOW, UH, WHAT WE KNOW IS THAT WE'VE GOTTA PROVIDE THE INTERACTIVE WEBSITE, THE INVENTORY, AND IF WE HAVE AN UNKNOWN OR LEAD LINE AND INVENTORY, WE HAVE TO NOTIFY THE PUBLIC, UM, OF THAT, THAT LINE.

UM, OUR DEADLINE TO COMPLETE THIS, UM, IS OCTOBER 16TH, 2024.

SO THAT'S THIS YEAR.

UM, WE ARE ON TARGET TO BE IN COMPLIANCE.

WE'RE WORKING WITH GIS AND WE'RE GONNA USE SOME SOFTWARE TO GET THAT WEBSITE UP AND RUNNING, UM, AND GET THAT INVENTORY COMPLETE.

UM, SO WE ARE IN LINE TO, TO, TO BE IN COMPLIANCE.

UM, BUT WE ARE STILL AWAITING SOME EPA GUIDANCE REGARDING RESPONSIBILITY OF THE PRIVATE SIDE, WHAT OUR RESPONSIBILITY IS GOING TO BE, UM, WHAT ARE THE TIMELINES POTENTIALLY THAT WE HAVE TO DO THIS.

UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE, YOU KNOW, ARE WE GONNA HAVE TO GO BACK AND MAKE A PHYSICAL, PHYSICAL INSPECTION OF EVERY SINGLE LINE TO CONFIRM WHAT WE BELIEVE TO BE TRUE TODAY? UM, SO THOSE THINGS ARE STILL UNKNOWN.

THEY'RE GONNA PROVIDE US SOME MORE, MORE GUIDANCE ON THAT.

UH, BUT WANTED TO JUST GO THROUGH IT AT LEAST TODAY TO KIND OF GIVE YOU WHAT THE

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EXPECTATIONS THAT THEY HAVE FOR US, UM, COME OCTOBER 16TH.

UM, SO ANY, ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? LET ME, LET ME JUST ADD ONE, UH, THIS, THIS WILL BE A CONSIDERATION.

UM, I MEAN, IN OUR BUDGET DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, UH, THIS IS AN UNFUNDED MANDATE THAT COULD BE A HALF MILLION DOLLARS BY OUR ESTIMATES, UH, EACH OF THE NEXT THREE YEARS, DEPENDING ON WHAT EXACTLY TCQ SAYS WE HAVE TO DO.

AND THEN WHAT TIMELINE.

AND SO, UM, WE'LL NEED THIS WILL, THIS WILL BE A DRIVER, UM, IN OUR, OUR RATE DISCUSSION.

AND, UM, BECAUSE WE, WE, WE CAN'T FOREGO DOING OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN PART OF OUR MULTI-YEAR CAPITAL PLAN, EXECUTING ON PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN DESIGNED AND READY TO GO JUST BECAUSE THIS CAME AND WE STILL HAVE A WHOLE SYSTEM, UH, THAT WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN.

AND SO, UM, THIS IS A, THIS IS A NOTEWORTHY, UM, A MANDATE THAT'S, THAT'S COMING DOWN.

THANK YOU, DON.

ERIC, THANKS FOR LETTING US KNOW FROM A LAYMAN'S TERM WHAT ALL THAT MEANT.

THAT WAS A MOUTHFUL, SO THANK YOU.

JOE, YOU GOT A COMMENT? YEAH, I MEAN, IT'S CERTAINLY, UM, IT'S CERTAINLY A HEFTY UNFUNDED MANDATE AT HALF A MILLION DOLLARS.

UH, THE ONLY, I MEAN, FROM A BUDGET PERSPECTIVE, IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT, UM, THAT IS VERY WEIGHTY AND RELEVANT FOR THIS CONVERSATION.

UM, SORRY, THE ONLY, THE ONLY THING I WANTED TO TO MENTION WAS, UH, WASHINGTON DC ACTUALLY HAS HAD A WEBSITE UP AS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF WHAT THIS MIGHT LOOK LIKE.

UM, THEY'VE HAD IT UP FOR, FOR YEARS ON WHERE THEY MAP OUT ALL THEIR LEAD PIPES.

SO FOR ANYONE WHO IS INTERESTED, JUST GOOGLE, WASHINGTON, DC LEAD PIPE MAP GIVES YOU A PRETTY GOOD EXAMPLE OF WHAT IT COULD LOOK LIKE.

THANK YOU, JOE.

MS. JUSTICE.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

FROM A BUDGET STANDPOINT, YOU MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, GREAT IMPACTS IN THOSE SORT OF THINGS IS JUST LIKE A, IT'S A ONE TIME EXPENSE.

I MEAN, I ASSUME WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE TO DO THIS EVERY YEAR UNLESS WE HAVE AN UNKNOWN OR A LEAD PIPE.

I MEAN, WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE ON A GOING FORWARD BASIS? THAT GUIDANCE THAT WE GET IN OCTOBER WILL, WILL REALLY DEFINE THAT, BUT, UM, THERE ARE, THERE ARE NUMEROUS SCENARIOS THAT HAVE BEEN DESCRIBED THAT WOULD BE A MULTI-YEAR IMPACT, PARTICULARLY ERIC ALLUDED TO IT.

I MEAN, IF WE HAVE TO PHYSICALLY CONFIRM, UM, AND PHYSICALLY CONFIRM MEANS PUTTING EYES ON A CONNECTION AND SEEING WHAT THAT PIPE IS, UM, THROW OUT THE NUMBER YOU GAVE ME, IT WAS 28,000, 26,000 TOTAL METERS? NO, NO.

THAT WE WOULD, UH, YOU HAD MENTIONED IT EARLIER, BRAD, THE NUMBER WAS, UH, YEAH, CURRENTLY, UH, WE THINK WE HAVE, UH, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 12,000, UH, PRIVATE SIDE METERS THAT WE ARE WOULD FALL INTO THE UNKNOWN CATEGORY.

MM-HMM, .

MM-HMM, .

OKAY.

YEAH.

SO THEN, SO IT'S A 500,000 THIS YEAR AND QUESTION MARK FOR FUTURE YEARS.

YEP.

LOVELY.

THANK YOU.

JOE, DID YOU WANT TO ADD SOMETHING TO THAT? YEAH, I MEAN, I COUNCIL, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE, I WOULD JUST ADD A, I WOULD IMAGINE TOO THAT IT'S SOMETHING IF WE GET, IF WE HAVE TO STAND SOME KIND OF WEBSITE UP, THEN WE ALSO HAVE TO MAINTAIN IT, RIGHT? MM-HMM.

AND WE HAVE TO KEEP, I MEAN, WE HAVE TO KEEP REVIEWING TO MAKE SURE THE DATA IS ACCURATE TO A CERTAIN YEAR.

SO NO MATTER WHAT, EVEN IF IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, SIX FIGURES, RIGHT? YEAH.

THOSE SIX FIGURES, NO, I, I HEAR YOU ON THAT.

THE WEBSITE MAKES SENSE FOR SURE.

AND LIKE, TO THE EXTENT WE FIND OUT THAT AN UNKNOWN IS A NON LIT AND WE NEED TO UPDATE IT, I GET THAT.

I WAS JUST CONCERNED ABOUT SORT OF THIS IS A HEFTY UPFRONT COST TO GET ALL THAT GOING.

AND IS THAT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT GOING FORWARD? MM-HMM.

OR IS IT A, SOME MORE NOMINAL SUM AS YOU SUGGEST IT JUST TO SORT OF KEEP THIS BACKGROUND STUFF MOVING.

UM, BUT YEAH, THAT'S TPD NOT GREAT EITHER WAY.

NO, IT'S NOT.

THANK YOU, MR. CHU.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

WELL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

THIS IS VERY INTERESTING.

UH, I MEAN, WE HAD A PROGRAM TO REPLACE THE WATER METER RIGHT TO, TO NEW METERS.

I MEAN, HOW MANY METERS LEFT FOR REPLACE? I MEAN, REPLACEMENT, ANY IDEA OR WHAT PERCENTAGE MIGHT BE TOTAL TO REPLACE? WE'RE DOWN TO 400 RANGE AND ALL ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE THAT STILL NEED TO BE REPLACED.

SO ALL THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE HAS BEEN COMPLETED.

UM, YOU KNOW, SO FROM OUR METER REPLACEMENT PROGRAM, OKAY, ALL THE RESIDENTIAL METER HAS BEEN REPLACED.

MM-HMM.

.

NOW, WHEN YOU GO OUT TO REPLACE THE METER, MOST OF THE TIME THERE IS A PLACE THAT IT CAN IDENTIFY WHICH ONE IS LEAD PIPE.

STILL THERE, A SIMPLE STRESS TEST WILL TELL YOU THIS IS LEAD, THIS IS SOME OTHER PIPE.

SO HAVE YOU IDENTIFIED DURING THAT PROCESS THAT HOW MANY PIPES HAS BEEN, OR THAT WAS NOT AN ISSUE THAT TIME? NO, AT THE TIME IT WAS NOT KNOWN.

IT WAS NOT PART OF THE CONDUCT.

WE JUST HAD 'EM REPLACING THE METERS.

UM, OKAY.

SO THEY WERE NOT IDENTIFYING TYPE PIPE MATERIAL AS THEY WERE DOING THE INSTALLATION OF THE METERS.

NOW ARE YOU, IS THIS IS A PROCESS THAT NOW YOU'RE GOING CHECKING EVERY METER PRESIDENTIAL METER, YOU KNOW, FINDING THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW, I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.

WHAT WE DO, I MEAN, WE DO WORK WITH SOME OTHER CITIES.

I DO.

AND WHENEVER WE HAVE

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SAY, WATER LINE REPLACEMENT THAT GOES WITH THE WATER METER, ALSO REPLACE.

SO WE MAKE SURE THAT OUR, OUR SURVEYOR OR AC CREW, THEY GO AND CHECK IF THE METER CONNECTION, WHAT KIND OF PIPE IS THAT? IS THAT DUCTILE IRON PIPE OR IS IT COPPER OR IS THAT LEAD? AND LEAD IS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU JUST SCRATCH THE PIPE CONNECTION, IT'LL TELL YOU THAT IT'S A SOFT PIPE.

SO YOU CAN FIND OUT THAT'S THE JOINT IS LEAD PIPE AND WHERE IDENTIFY THOSE THING AND WE MAKE SURE THAT HAS BEEN PROPERLY DOCUMENTED AND REPLACED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

AND ALSO NOTIFY THE RESIDENT THAT YOU DO HAVE SOMETHING FIX IT.

SO THAT KIND OF PROCESS.

SO, SO I GUESS THAT THE NUMBER THAT YOU THROW, THAT 12,000, UH, IS THAT SOMETHING JUST, UH, STATISTICS BASED ON SAMPLING OR THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, SO IF I, IF I GET RIGHT WRONG, BRAD, BRAD DID A LOT OF THE RESEARCH HERE, BUT A LOT OF IT IS LOOKING AT, UH, AS-BUILTS CITY CODE CITY RECORDS, WHAT WAS ALLOWABLE WITHIN THE CITY AT THE TIME FOR BUILDING CODE.

AND WE WERE ABLE TO GO BACK AND FIND THAT WE HAD DOCUMENTATION AS FAR BACK AS 1965, THAT ANYTHING THAT WAS BUILT OR ESTABLISHED AFTER THIS DATE RIGHT, OR LEAD LINES WERE NOT ALLOWED.

SO WE, WE, WE CAN BUILD OUR INVENTORY MAKING THE ASSUMPTION THAT THAT SHOULD BE A NON LEAD LEAD LINE.

UM, WE DO HAVE SOME OLDER PARTS OF THE CITY WHERE WE EITHER DON'T HAVE RECORD OR DOCUMENTATION.

UM, SO WE, IT'S AN UNKNOWN, UH, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS.

SO THAT 12,000 HE'S REFERENCING, UH, WE WERE ABLE TO, WE WEREN'T ABLE TO ELIMINATE EITHER THROUGH RECORDS OR HISTORICAL DATA, UH, RESEARCH TO, TO IDENTIFY WHAT WE BELIEVE THAT THAT PIPE MATERIAL TO BE.

SO THOSE ARE THE 12,000 THAT RIGHT NOW WE'RE LOOKING LIKE WE MAY HAVE TO LIST AS UNKNOWN UNTIL WE CAN, FURTHER INVESTIGATION CAN BE COMPLETED.

OKAY.

SO YOU'LL HAVE SOME PROCESS TO VERIFY THAT.

I MEAN, IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE HEALTH OF THE HOMEOWNERS BECAUSE, UH, BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY, AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE A CLEAN WATER.

SO THAT'S OVER THE YEARS, WE ARE JUST NOT, WE, SOME PEOPLE ARE DRINKING WATER THAT'S NOT REALLY, UH, SAFE FOR THEM.

UH, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNERS BECAUSE OF THE LONG TIME AGO THAT WAS PRETTY MUCH RANDOMLY OR IT WAS USED, UH, WITH, WITH A CODE, IT WAS ALLOWED.

AND, UM, SO THAT'S GOOD.

I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT.

I'M GLAD THIS, THIS, UH, CAME ON EVEN THOUGH IT'S A, IT, IT INVOLVES SOME COST, BUT, UH, BUT ONCE YOU FIX THE PROBLEM, THE PROBLEM GOES AWAY.

THIS PARTICULAR PROBLEMS GOES AWAY.

SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO SPEND MONEY AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN.

WELL, LET, LET, LET ME, LET ME, UH, CLARIFY.

I THINK JUST TO MAKE, THERE'S TWO IMPORTANT POINTS.

SO, UH, THE, THE, THE ONGOING COST THAT I'M REFERRING TO, THE, THE POTENTIAL INITIAL ESTIMATES THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT, THAT'S FOR THE CONFIRMATION OF THOSE 12,000 UNKNOWNS, RIGHT? THAT'S JUST TO DECIDE WHERE THEY ARE.

THAT LAST BULLET IS EVEN MORE CONSEQUENTIAL, WHICH MEANS WHAT THE EPI MEAN WHAT, UM, EPA SAYS THAT WE HAVE TO DO ON THE PRIVATE SIDE.

SO IF WE'RE SOMEHOW NOW RESPONSIBLE FOR REMEDIATING, UH, THE LEAD PIPE ON THE PRIVATE SIDE, THAT'LL TAKE ON A WHOLE NOTHER STRATOSPHERE OF COST AND RESPONSIBILITY.

AND SO BOTH OF THOSE, THAT GUIDANCE OF WHAT DO WE DO WITH THE 12,000 UNKNOWNS AND HOW QUICKLY DO WE HAVE TO DO THAT, THAT'LL BE THE INITIAL RAMP UP COST THAT I'M DESCRIBING.

THE, THE LAST BULLET THERE.

THAT COULD BE A DECADES LONG, UM, INITIATIVE THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE ON IF, DEPENDING ON WHAT THEY DIRECT, RIGHT? I MEAN, HOPEFULLY WE DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING WITH THE PRIVATE SIDE BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW WHERE THAT STOPS.

UH, BUT THE PRI PUBLIC SIDE, THAT THAT CAN BE FIXED WITHOUT MUCH PROBLEM.

AND MOST OF THE TIME THE PROBLEM IS IN THE PRIVATE SITE.

YEAH.

THAT'S WHAT WE FOUND.

UH, SO YEAH.

500,000, THAT'S PROBABLY JUST IDENTIFYING THE CONNECTION.

YEAH.

I MEAN, UM, WE, WE HAVEN'T FOUND ANY LEAD IN ON THE PUBLIC SIDE, RIGHT? WE'VE IDENTIFIED APPROXIMATELY 95% OF OUR PUBLIC SERVICE LINES AS COPPER.

UH, WE'VE GOT DETAILS THAT GO BACK TO THE EARLY 1950S THAT, UH, OUR STANDARD DETAIL WAS COPPER, SO, MM-HMM.

SOME OF THOSE OLDER, UH, AREAS THAT ERIC'S MENTIONED ARE ESSENTIALLY UNKNOWN AT THIS POINT, BUT WE WILL BE INVESTIGATING THEM AS WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.

YEAH.

I THINK IF IT IS, GOES MUCH OLDER THAN IT MIGHT BE DUCTILE IRON, NOT THE LIT.

I CAN HOPE THAT, I HOPE THAT, AND I'VE SEEN DUCTAL IRON PIPE USED IN REJECTION QUITE A BIT.

UM, I WAS A LITTLE SURPRISED, BUT THAT WAS LONG BEFORE MY GRAND, WHEN MY FATHER WAS BORN, I GUESS.

NOW.

THANK YOU.

I THINK I UNDERSTAND THIS A LITTLE MORE.

THANK YOU, MR. CHER RUNNER.

I, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I KNOW WHAT WE'RE ALL SAYING, BUT JUST FOR PURPOSES OF EVERYONE UNDERSTANDING.

SO DON, YOU'RE SAYING THAT IN THEORY, THE EPA GUIDANCE THAT COMES OUT

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MAY VERY WELL REQUIRE WE AS A CITY TO DEAL WITH SOMEONE'S HOME IF IT HAS LEAD PIPING IN IT.

IS THAT, IS THAT WHAT WE'RE YEAH, LET ME, IS THAT WHAT WE'RE SAYING? YEP.

I'M, I'M JUST TRYING TO GET IT LIKE VERY PLAIN ENGLISH IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO, TO GET HERE.

IS THAT, WHAT IS THAT WHAT WE, I GUESS I'LL SAY, ARE CONCERNED ABOUT? IS THAT, IS THAT, IS THAT WHAT WHAT WE'RE SAYING HERE THIS EVENING, THE, THE LANGUAGE IS, IT'S BEING PRESENTED, UH, AND, AND, AND POTENTIALLY ADOPTED, UH, LATER THIS YEAR WOULD, UH, REQUIRE US, UH, POTENTIALLY TO, UH, REPLACE ANY LEAD OR, UH, GALVANIZE THAT IS DOWNSTREAM OF A LEAD LINE FROM THE METER TO A TERMINATION POINT AT THE RESIDENCE.

NOT, UH, NOT THEIR INTERNAL PLUMBING, BUT THE SERVICE LINE TO, UH, THEIR CONNECTION AT THEIR HOME OR BUSINESS.

THAT, THAT SEEMS LIKE A BIG OVERREACH.

MAYBE I'M THE ONLY ONE SITTING HERE THINKING THAT, BUT DO WE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE THAT, THAT EQUATES TO THIS ON ANY OTHER TYPE OF UTILITY OR ANY OTHER TYPE OF SCENARIO? I CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING ON THE PRIVATE, ON PRIVATE PROPERTY THAT WOULD REQUIRE THE CITY TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR REPLACING A CERTAIN PIECE OF PRIVATE INFRASTRUCTURE.

I MEAN, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT, I MEAN, I, I JUST SEE THIS FRAUGHT WITH ALL KIND OF ISSUES BECAUSE IF WE, YOU KNOW, IF TO TO GO WITH YOUR, WITH WHAT YOU JUST SAID, IF WE'RE TRYING TO GO FROM WHERE THE METER IS, DEPENDING ON WHERE THE METER'S AT TO A CONNECTION POINT AT A HOUSE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, YOU'D HAVE TO TEAR UP YARD TREES, LANDSCAPING THE WHOLE NINE YARDS.

THAT, THAT SEEMS LIKE AN AWFULLY LARGE OVERREACH.

HAVE WE, HAVE WE CONTEMPLATED WORKING WITH SOMEONE TO PUSH BACK ON THIS ? I'M TRYING TO ASK IT IN A SURE.

IN A, IN A, IN A CAREFUL WAY, I GUESS IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY.

I'M, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND PEOPLE WANT SAFE DRINKING WATER.

AND I, AND I MEAN, YES, IF IT'S ON OUR SIDE OF THE, OF THE METER, YOU KNOW, A THOUSAND PERCENT, WE OUGHT TO DO EVERYTHING WE HUMANLY POSSIBLY CAN TO, TO GET RID OF ANY, ANY LEAD, BUT TO GO INTO SOMEONE'S HOME OR TO, TO THE, TO THEIR, TO THE ON SERVICE LINE PASS THE MEETING SIDE SEEMS, SEEMS LIKE A HUGE OVERREACH.

AND SO I'M, I'M, I'M SAYING RATHER THAN JUST WAITING TILL WE SEE WHAT THIS GUIDANCE IS, I MEAN, ARE OTHER CITIES UNDERSTANDING THIS? IS ANYONE GETTING FIRED UP ABOUT IT? I GUESS, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WAY TO PUT IT, YES.

SOME ARE TAKING DIFFERENT ACTIONS.

SOME ARE ALREADY FUNDING MONEY TO GO OUT AND DO WORK ON THE PRIVATE SIDE.

UH, WE'VE, WE'VE MET WITH CONSULTANTS, WE'VE, UH, DONE WORK.

BRAD'S MET WITH THOSE CONSULTANTS.

UM, I THINK MAYBE YOU CAN SPEAK TO WHAT A WWA PROVIDED TO EPA IN REGARD TO THIS.

SO, UH, MUNICIPALITIES, ENGINEERS, PROFESSIONAL SOCIETIES, THEY ECHO THE SAME CONCERNS, UH, THAT YOU HAVE COUNCILMAN.

UM, WHICH IS WHY THIS, UH, NEXT REVISION, WHAT THEY'RE CALLING THE LCRI, LEG COPPER RULE IMPROVEMENTS, UH, HAS NOT YET BEEN ADOPTED.

AND THEY ARE, UH, EXPECTING TO RELEASE THAT.

UH, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, ONE OF THE PROFESSIONAL SOCIETIES THAT WE'RE A MEMBER OF, UH, SENT A 200 PAGE, UH, REBUTTAL TO THE EPA EXPRESSING A NUMBER OF THOSE CONCERNS.

UM, SO AT THIS POINT, WE'RE, WE'RE ADDRESSING WHAT WE KNOW WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF, WHICH IS THE INVENTORY.

UM, WE KNOW THAT THE POSSIBILITY IS OUT THERE FOR, UH, SERVICE LINE REPLACEMENTS, POTENTIALLY ON THE PRIVATE SIDE.

UH, AND, UH, WE'RE INTERNALLY, WE'RE KIND OF TRYING TO PREPARE OURSELVES FOR THAT, BUT WE'LL HAVE TO WAIT TO SEE WHAT THE, YEAH.

I MEAN, WHAT ULTIMATELY IS ADOPTED.

SURE.

UH, COUNCILMAN, I'M GONNA TRY IT WITH YOUR, UH, UH, CONSENSUS TONIGHT.

WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO TAKE ADDITIONAL STEPS AND TO, UM, LET OUR ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL KNOW HOW WE FEEL ABOUT THIS.

I MEAN, I, I THINK EVERYBODY'S SPIRIT IS, IS THE SAME, WHICH IS WE WANNA MAKE IT SAFE, BUT WHERE DO YOU DRAW THE LINE ON WHAT'S THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY VERSUS, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT IS THE, THE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER'S RESPONSIBILITY? I MEAN, I, I UNDERSTAND COMPLETELY, YOU KNOW, NOTIFYING A HOMEOWNER AND SAYING, HEY, ARE YOU AWARE, YOU KNOW, BASED ON THE SURVEY THAT YOU HAVE LED OR GALVANIZED, YOU KNOW, PIPING FROM, FROM THE METER INTO YOUR HOUSE.

I MEAN, I WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT PART, BUT PAST THAT, FOR US TO ACTUALLY HAVE TO GO IN AND DO SOME TYPE OF REMEDIATION SEEMS, IT SEEMS LIKE A WAY BIG OVERSTRETCH AS COMPARED TO ANYTHING I'VE EVER HEARD DISCUSSED FOR THE SIX YEARS I'VE BEEN ON HERE ON OUR COMING SIX YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN ON HERE.

SO, YEAH, I MEAN, I WOULD, I WOULD, I, I I WOULD, I WOULD GIVE YOU A THUMBS UP

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TO SAY, YEAH, WE OUGHT TO CONTACT OUR THANK YOU FEDERAL REPRESENTATIVES.

I, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR EVERYBODY ELSE, BUT THAT, THAT'S CERTAINLY WHERE I'M AT.

MR. DORRY, I THINK YOU ARE NEXT.

WELL, I WAS JUST GONNA COMMENT OR ADD TO, UH, WHAT COUNCILMAN HUTCHEN, RADER MENTIONED THAT, AND THEN, AND EARLIER YOU MENTIONED ABOUT COPPER.

'CAUSE YOU KNOW, THE MAJORITY OF THE HOMES, YOU KNOW, THAT WERE BUILT GENERALLY IN THAT 60, 70-YEAR-OLD FRAME, OUR COPPER, UH, INTERNALLY AS WELL, YOU KNOW, UNLESS THEY'VE REPLACED IT WITH A REMODEL OF PECS OR WHATEVER.

BUT, BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, A LOT OF THAT IS COPPER.

I MEAN, AND AND YOU MENTIONED THAT EARLIER TOO, UH, BRAD, THAT THAT'S, UH, THAT'S PREDOMINANT MATERIAL USED.

CORRECT.

THE, THE CITY HAD PASSED AN ORDINANCE IN DECEMBER OF 1965 THAT EVEN ON THE PRIVATE SIDE, THE WATER MAT, UH, WATER SERVICE MATERIAL WOULD BE COPPER.

OKAY.

YOU KNOW, AND, AND IN THE, IN THE EVENT THAT WE CAN'T FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MANAGE THIS, UH, DIFFERENTLY, WHAT YOU, WE HAVE TO HAVE ALL THIS DONE BY THE END OF THIS YEAR, REPORTING BASICALLY.

YEAH.

YEAH.

UH, NO.

UH, BY OCTOBER OF THIS YEAR, UH, WE ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE THE INVENTORY COMPLETE, THE WEBSITE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC AND PUBLIC EDUCATION, UH, MATERIAL MADE AVAILABLE TO ANYONE WE IDENTIFY AS, UH, LEAD GALVANIZED REQUIRING PLACEMENT OR UNKNOWN, UH, SERVICE LINE MATERIAL.

THE, UH, FURTHER REQUIREMENTS THAT MAY OR MAY NOT COME DOWN LATER THIS YEAR.

UM, HISTORICALLY THERE'S BEEN A THREE YEAR WINDOW TO, UH, GET IN COMPLIANCE WITH WHAT THAT MANDATE MAY BE.

AND THAT'S BASICALLY JUST UTILIZING THE DATA THAT WE HAVE THAT WE CAN PULL FROM OLD, UH, CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS OR CITY PLANS, UH, WITHOUT GENERALLY TESTING OR GOING OUT AND TESTING EACH PARTICULAR HOME.

YES, TO DATE, WE HAVE DONE NO PHYSICAL INVESTIGATION OF SERVICE LINES, BUT, UH, WE ANTICIPATE THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WILL BE, UH, REQUIRED OF US, UH, IN THE FUTURE.

YEAH.

SO CURTIS, USING AS BUILT, USING BUILDING CODES, ALL THAT, WE'RE NET OF THAT.

WE'RE STILL WITH APPROXIMATELY 12,000 THAT WE CAN'T IDENTIFY.

OKAY.

SO WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING WE CAN DO WITHOUT GOING OUT AND HAVING TO START TO PHYSICALLY TOUCH IT, THE, THE, UM, THE METERS AND, AND LOOK, EVALUATE THE LINE.

THE NEXT STEP, UM, IF THIS CONTINUES ON, WILL BE IN WITHIN SOME NUMBER OF YEARS, DIC DICTATED BY THE EPA, WE WILL HAVE TO CONFIRM WHAT THOSE 12,000 LINES ARE.

AND THAT'S WHERE, I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE STAFF TO DO THAT TODAY, UM, JUST TO SPEND, YOU KNOW, HOURS AND HOURS LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, 4,000 METERS A YEAR.

UM, SO WE WILL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHETHER IT'S EXTERNAL RESOURCES THAT WE USE FOR THAT OR WHATEVER, WHATEVER STRATEGY WE IDENTIFY, BUT THOSE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH CONFIRMING WHAT THOSE 12,000 ARE, THOSE ARE NEW COSTS TO US THAT WE'LL HAVE TO, WE'LL HAVE TO DEAL WITH.

AND AGAIN, THAT'S SEPARATE FROM THAT LAST LINE, RIGHT? THE, THE, UH, THE, THE POSSIBILITY OF DEALING WITH, UH, UM, THE, UM, LINES ON THE PRIVATE SIDE.

AND SO THERE'S REALLY TWO COMPONENTS, UH, TO IT.

I WOULD SAY THE FIRST COMPONENT'S PROBABLY A SURE THING.

I MEAN, WE'RE GONNA END UP SOMEHOW HAVING TO CONFIRM THOSE 12,000 WHAT THEY ARE AND AREN'T, THAT'S PROBABLY A SURE THING.

IT'S THE LAST BULLET THERE THAT'S STILL UP IN THE AIR.

UM, THE CURIOSITY AROUND THE 12,000 IS HOW FAST WILL WE HAVE TO DO IT? WILL IT BE THREE YEARS? WILL IT BE FIVE YEARS? MM-HMM.

WHAT WILL BE THE RHYTHM OF THAT? AND THAT WILL RESULT IN HOW MUCH WE HAVE TO DEVOTE TO THAT FROM A RESOURCE STANDPOINT.

YOU KNOW, EACH YEAR IS TO MEET, TO MEET THAT MANDATE.

WELL, IT'S ALSO GOOD THAT WE'RE BRINGING AWARENESS.

UH, SO THAT BASICALLY IS A DEADLINE OF OCTOBER 16TH AND JUST MAKING PEOPLE AWARE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'LL GENERATE, YOU KNOW, SOME THOUGHTS AND THEN AGAIN, SOME MIGHT JUST, YOU KNOW, TAKE IT ON THEIR OWN TO MM-HMM.

TO REPLACE IT.

I MEAN, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A PERCENTAGE OF RESIDENTS THAT WILL DO THAT AS WELL, AND THEN CALCULATES BUSINESSES AS WELL, CORRECT.

BUSINESSES AND RESIDENTS.

THAT 12,000, OR IS THAT JUST RESIDENTS? THAT, THAT'S EVERY SERVICE CONNECTION.

EVERY SERVICE CONNECTION, OKAY.

NO MATTER WHAT.

OKAY.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. CORCORAN.

YEAH, I THINK IF THE, UM, IF THE PUBLIC, IT SOUNDS LIKE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD FOR THE SECOND PART MAY NOT BE OVER YET.

UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW.

I DO HAVE FAITH THAT THE EPA DOES TAKE THOSE PUBLIC COMMENTS SERIOUSLY WHEN THEY'RE SUBMITTED.

UM, SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS, HOW THE REST OF Y'ALL FEEL, BUT, YOU KNOW, MAYOR, ON OUR BEHALF, YOU KNOW, I WOULDN'T MIND IF WE SUBMITTED SOME SORT OF PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU KNOW, ON BEHALF OF THE ENTIRE CITY COUNCIL.

UM, YOU KNOW, JUST SAYING THAT WHILE WE APPRECIATE THE PUBLIC HEALTH ASPECTS, YOU KNOW, WE, WE OUTLINED SORT OF THE LOGISTICAL AND FINANCIAL CHALLENGES THAT THIS WOULD IMPOSE ON US IF THAT PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD ISN'T OVER, I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY DO.

I KNOW BECAUSE MY SISTER DOES IT FOR A LIVING.

RIGHT.

THEY DO LOOK

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OVER THOSE, THEY DO INCORPORATE THOSE AND TAKE THEM SERIOUSLY.

SO IF WE COULD DO THAT, IF THAT'S AN OPTION, I MIGHT TOTALLY BE IN SUPPORT OF THAT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU, MR. CHU.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

WELL, I MEAN, HOPEFULLY EVENTUALLY THAT PRIVATE SIDE WOULD BE ELIMINATED.

MAYBE THERE IS OPTION WOULD BE THERE INSTEAD OF GOING TO THE NEAREST VALVE UPSTREAM THAT YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT TYPICALLY NEXT TO THE HOUSE OUTSIDE, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S A LONG STRETCH REPLACEMENT.

SO IF, YOU KNOW THERE IS SOME TECHNICAL ISSUE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT AL ISSUE, HOW THE HOMEOWNERS WILL BE TAKING CARE OF THE, THEIR SIDE AND VERSUS CITY SIDE, UH, BECAUSE YOU'RE CONNECTING THE PIPE METER WITH THE LEAD PIPE JOINT PIPE, UH, YOU HAVE TO REPLACE SOME PORTION TO MAKE IT CLEAR, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THAT COULD, THAT COULD BE UP TO THE PROPERTY LINE THAT CITY WILL BE DOING.

OR MAYBE THERE IS, YOU KNOW, SOME, SOME KIND OF VALVE OUTSIDE COULD BE INSTALLED AND SAYING THAT THE REST IS PRIVATE.

YOU GUYS HAVE TO TAKE CARE.

I GUESS THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS PROBABLY STILL, THEY'RE LOOKING AT HOW TO MAKE THIS THING MORE PRACTICAL.

UH, IT'S, IT'S A COMPLICATED IF, IF CITY HAVE TO GO TO THE PRIVATE SIDE.

IT'S NOT JUST REPLACING THE PIPE.

YOU ARE BRINGING LOTS OF LIABILITY.

MM-HMM.

, UH, EVEN THOUGH THE NUMBERS ARE PROBABLY ABOUT 5% HOUSE MAYBE, OR MAYBE TWO OR 3% HOUSE HAS THESE KIND OF THINGS.

UH, UH, SO I'M HOPING THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS PUB PRIVATE SIDE, JUST NOTIFICATION TO THE HOMEOWNERS OR OWNERS OF THE HOUSE IS ENOUGH, AND WE JUST TAKE CARE OF THE, UH, PUBLIC SIDE.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT SOME OF THE CITY DOING RIGHT NOW.

THEY'RE NOT TOUCHING THE PUBLIC SIDE OTHER THAN JUST GIVING THEM WRITTEN LETTER THAT THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

SO IF WE HAVE THE WEBSITE, THAT'S, IF WE CAN MAKE IT EASILY ACCESSIBLE AND IDENTIFY THOSE THING BY THE HOMEOWNERS, MAYBE THEY CAN REPORT AND DEPENDS ON HOW THIS A PA GOES.

I GUESS WE JUST HAVE TO WAIT A LITTLE BIT AND SEE HOW WE CAN APPROACH THIS.

BUT I'M, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IT BY THIS YEAR.

EVERYTHING VERIFIED.

IF WE CAN TAKE THE FIRST STEP AND AS SOON AS POSSIBLE WE TAKE THE STEP TO IDENTIFY, OR MAYBE THE HOMEOWNERS CAN, THEY CAN CHECK, WE CAN GIVE THEM SOME GUIDANCE, HOW WE CAN CHECK EASY, THEN STAFF OR SOMEBODY ELSE CAN VERIFY THAT IT, IT'S A PROCESS.

IF WE CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE PROBABLY COST EFFECTIVE.

BUT I GUESS EVENTUALLY, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE TAKE CARE THIS SOONER OR LATER.

SOONER THAN LATER.

THANK YOU.

MR. ARFIN.

CORRECT.

I'M NOT TRYING TO CORRECT YOU, BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE THE INVENTORY DONE BY OCTOBER 16TH.

SO WE, WE HAVE TO KNOW THE, THE, THE LEAD CONTENT, CORRECT? NO.

IS THAT WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING FROM WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? I JUST HAVE TO SEND THE NOTIFICATIONS OCTOBER 16TH.

OCTOBER 16TH.

YOU HAVE TO COME UP WITH THE NUMBER THAT POSSIBLE THESE THINGS, THEN ACTUALLY VERIFY THESE THING, EVENTUALLY SEND SOMEONE AND THEN, THEN MAKE A, MAKE A LIST BY SOME CERTAIN TIME.

SO, SO FOR OCTOBER 16TH, UNKNOWN IS AN ALLOWABLE PIPE MATERIAL FOR THE INVENTORY.

SO WE CAN INCLUDE THAT.

IT WILL, WE WILL BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE EPA, UM, WHEN WE WOULD HAVE TO PHYSICALLY IDENTIFY THAT WE'RE NOT VERY CERTAIN.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THANKS.

THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION, BRETT.

ERIC, YOU STILL GOT MORE FOR US? I DO, I DO.

BOY, I, GOT A LITTLE BIT, A LITTLE NICER TOPIC.

SO WE, WE RECENTLY TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE ENVIRONMENTAL OUTREACH, UM, AFTER ABOUT SOME YEARS NOW, WE FINALLY HAVE AN ENVIRONMENTAL OUTREACH MANAGER ON STAFF.

SHE'S BEEN WITH US A LITTLE OVER A MONTH NOW.

UM, REALLY DIVING INTO JUST OUR WATER CONSERVATION INITIATIVES, THE RECENT PLANS THAT WE'VE ADOPTED.

UM, SO IN SPEAKING WITH HER ON HOW WE WANNA MOVE FORWARD, IT'S REALLY, IT'S KIND OF REIGNITING SOME OF THE PROGRAMS THAT WE USED TO DO, KINDA LIKE A PRE PANDEMIC, IF YOU WILL.

WE, YOU KNOW, WE USED TO DO, UM, SO WATER WISE LANDSCAPE TOUR, WE DID A LOT OF WORKSHOPS, WHETHER THAT WAS IRRIGATION, FIX THE LEAK WEEK, YOU KNOW, LAWN CARE.

JUST A LOT OF THINGS THAT WERE VERY WATER WISE, WATER CONSERVATION CONSCIOUS.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE PLANNING ON, UH, REIGNITING A LOT OF THESE PROGRAMS AND ADDING SOME NEW ONES, UM, FOR CONSIDERATION AS WELL.

AND THEN ON THE RECYCLING SIDE, YOU KNOW, BRINGING BACK SOME OF THE COMPOSTING WORKSHOPS, BRINGING BACK PEOPLE IN ON HOW THEY CAN DO COMPOST, UM, BLUE BAG GIVEAWAY EVENTS.

YOU KNOW, WE DO THE ROTATING LOCATIONS, BUT HOW CAN WE MAYBE MAKE THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE EXCITING FOR THE RESIDENTS TO WANT TO ATTEND? UM, AND THEN EXPLORE PARTNERSHIPS TO PROMOTE THE RECYCLING, DO MORE PARTNERSHIPS WITH RISD AND NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS.

AND THAT'S JUST A SHORT LIST THAT INCLUDES EVERYBODY FOR SURE.

BUT, UM, JUST KIND OF GET BACK OUT IN THE COMMUNITY, START TALKING ABOUT WATER CONSERVATION, BEING WATER WISE, HOW YOU CAN DO THAT.

UM, AND THEN ON THE RECYCLING SIDE AS WELL,

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UM, I KNOW THAT OTHER DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE CITY DO SOME OF THESE, SO, YOU KNOW, REALLY GETTING TOGETHER AS A CITY AND FIGURING OUT WHO'S DOING WHAT AND, AND TRYING TO REALLY GUIDE SOME OF THESE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

SO, UM, WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO GET THAT GOING.

UM, JADE, LIKE I SAID, JADE'S BEEN HERE A LITTLE OVER A MONTH.

AND SO, UM, BE LOOKING FOR SOME OF THIS OUTREACH AND, AND YOUR LOCAL CONNECTIONS TO, TO SEE US BACK OUT IN THE COMMUNITY FOR THESE INITIATIVES.

AND THEN THIS IS THE WATER CAPITAL FUNDED STRATEGIES MAINTENANCE PLAN.

UM, EVERYTHING PREVIOUSLY WAS ALL OPERATIONAL.

UM, SO HERE'S OUR UTILITY DEBT CAPITAL PLAN.

UM, WE'RE PROJECTING TO BE AT $2 MILLION THIS YEAR.

UM, THIS IS, UH, WATER LINES THAT ARE EITHER NEW OR REPLACED THROUGH CAPITAL PROJECTS OR THROUGH A CONTRACTOR.

AND THEN I MENTIONED OUR METERS EARLIER.

THIS IS, THIS METER MONEY HERE IS FOR LARGE VALVE REPLACEMENT, OR I SAID METERS.

I MEANT VALVES.

WE HAD VALVES FOR, THIS IS LIKE A LARGE VALVE, ANYTHING 14 INCH AND LARGER.

SO WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, 20 INCH VALVES, 36 INCH VALVES, AND THOSE ARE PRETTY LARGE CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS.

SO CAPITAL PROJECTS FUNDS THOSE, AND WE DO SOME OF THOSE VALVES ANNUALLY.

UM, AND THEN THERE'S THE METER REPLACEMENT.

UM, THAT REDUCTION DOWN, I SAID WE ONLY HAD ABOUT 400 METERS LEFT.

THAT 500 VALVES WAS TO BUY THOSE METERS.

UM, AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE ANY CURRENT WATER FACILITY OR WATER TOWERS, UH, CURRENTLY FUNDED FOR ANY PLANNING THERE.

UM, AND HERE'S THE LIST I KIND OF JUST WENT OVER.

THERE'S SIX WATER MAIN REPLACEMENTS, EITHER IN PROGRESS OR COMPLETE.

UM, WE'VE GOT TWO VALVE LARGE VALVES IN UNDER DESIGN, ONE AT CAMPBELL AND FLOYD.

AND THEN OUR 20 INCH VALVE AT OUR COLLINS WATER TOWERS NEED TO BE REPLACED.

SO THAT'S UNDER DESIGN AS WELL.

UM, THE METER REPLACEMENT MONEY, THAT'S ALL COMMERCIAL METER CHANGE OUTS, TWO INCH OR UNDER ESSENTIALLY.

UM, AND THAT'S STILL BEING IN PROGRESS.

AND THEN ALSO, UM, 11 DATA COLLECTORS ARE BEING INSTALLED THROUGHOUT THE CITY, UM, TO GET, SO WE CAN READ ALL THAT ME METER DATA.

UM, MOBILE IS NOT THE RIGHT WORD, I GUESS WITHOUT DRAFTING BY.

WE CAN COLLECT THEM THROUGH THOSE COLLECTORS.

UM, AND THEN OUR NORTHSIDE PUMP STATION ELECTRICAL REHAB, UH, WAS COMPLETED THIS YEAR AS WELL.

OUR PROPOSED PLAN, UM, IS $2.4 MILLION ON OUR PROPOSED PLAN FOR OUR CAPITAL NEXT YEAR.

UH, WE'VE GOT 1.5 FOR WATER MAINS, SAME FOR, UH, METER REPLACEMENTS AND LARGE VALVES.

I'M SORRY, NOT THE SAME.

THE METER REPLACEMENTS IS GOING DOWN SO WE DON'T HAVE TO BUY METERS ANYMORE, BUT WE DO WANNA START REPLACING OUR THREE INCH AND LARGER COMMERCIAL METERS.

UM, SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT.

AND THEN THERE'S $400,000 ON OUR WATER FACILITIES.

UM, THAT PROPOSED LIST, UM, AGAIN, CONSISTS OF WATER, MAIN REPLACEMENTS, DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION.

UM, AT THESE LOCATIONS, AGAIN, IT'S THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE 20 INCH, 24 INCH VALVE THAT'S CURRENTLY UNDER DESIGN AT COLLINS ELEVATED STORAGE TANK.

AND THEN WE COULD DO DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION AT A VALVE AT, AT RENTER AND WINDHAM THAT'S NEEDING TO BE REPLACED.

UM, AND AS I MENTIONED, THE METER REPLACEMENT, IT'S NOT THE TWO INCH AND SMALLER, THESE ARE OUR THREE INCH AND LARGER.

WE WANNA GO FROM COMPOUND TURBINE METERS TO ULTRASONIC METERS.

UM, WE'VE BEEN TOLD BY OUR VENDOR THAT THEY'RE KIND OF TRANSITIONING TO ULTRASONIC ULTRASONICS, MORE OF AN ELECTRICAL REED TYPE METER VERSUS A COMPOUND TURBINES MORE MECHANICAL.

SO LIKE MOST THINGS, IT'S KIND OF MOVING TO THE ELECTRICAL SIDE OF THINGS, SO WE WANNA START REPLACING THOSE METERS AS WELL.

UM, AND THEN IT'S DESIGN OF OUR DO A WEST SIDE ELECTRICAL UPGRADE AND SOME YARD PIPING, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY ADDING A SECOND AIR GAP TO OUR SECOND GARAGE STORAGE TANK THERE IN THE YARD AT WEST SIDE PUMP STATION.

UM, SO THAT'S OUR PROPOSED PLAN FOR FISCAL YEAR 24, 25.

ANY QUESTIONS, ERIC? I HAVE ONE QUESTION.

IF WE GO TO THE ELECTRICAL TURBINE METERS RIGHT THERE AND WE HAVE ANOTHER POWER OUTAGE, HOW DOES THAT IMPACT THIS? OR DOES IT INSTANTLY KICK OVER TO SOME TYPE OF GENERATORS OR WHATEVER? WELL, THESE METERS ARE IN THE GROUND, UM, SO I DON'T, DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF THE METER, THEY'RE PROBABLY HAVE LIKE A BATTERY BACKUP INTERNAL TO IT.

SO IT, IT'S IN LIKE THE CURRENT ONES I THINK ARE EVEN CHARGED BY SOLAR.

UM, I'M NOT SURE HOW THOSE METERS ARE POWERED.

PROBABLY OUTTA MY LANE A LITTLE BIT ON HOW THE POWER OF THAT WORKS.

UM, BUT THEY'RE NOT TIED TO LIKE AN ELECTRICAL GRID, SO IF WE LOSE POWER, THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO FUNCTION.

IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION, THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION.

I'M JUST THINKING BIGGER PICTURE AND SOMETHING WE JUST IDENTIFIED WITH, SO YEAH, NO, THESE ARE INDIVIDUAL METERS, SO, OKAY.

NO QUESTIONS, COUNSEL.

ALRIGHT, THEN I'LL TURN IT OVER TO NICK FOR 8 25.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ERIC.

BRAD, Y'ALL DID WONDERFUL.

THANK YOU.

WELL, THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND GIVE YOU GUYS A LITTLE BIT OF AN UPDATE ON, ON OUR 8 25 PROJECT.

UH, JUST TO JUST A LITTLE, UH, RECAP OF WHAT THE PROJECT IS.

PROJECT WAS, UH, PUT TOGETHER TO, UH, GIVE US ADDITIONAL ABILITY, UM, TO MEET OUR, OUR EXPECTED, OUR EXPECTED DEMANDS, UM,

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AND GROWTH.

UH, THE PROJECT WILL, UH, IT'S GOT A COUPLE OF KEY ELEMENTS.

IT'S GOT, UH, KINDA LIKE WHAT ERIC MENTIONED, A NEW PUMP STATION THAT'S GONNA BE AN, IT'S A SECOND PUMP STATION THAT'S AN EXPANSION TO OUR NORTH SIDE PUMP STATION.

UH, THAT'LL BE A 15 MILLION GALLON PER DAY CAPACITY.

WE'RE ALSO BUILDING A 5 MILLION GALLON GROUND STORAGE TANK, WHICH I THINK A LOT OF Y'ALL SAW, UM, DURING PREVIOUS VISIT TO THE SITE.

WE'VE MADE QUITE A BIT OF PROGRESS SINCE THEN ON THAT.

UH, AS WELL AS TWO WATER LINES.

ONE OF THEM IS, UH, CITY OF RICHARDSON OWNED, WHICH RUNS FROM THE PUMP STATION ALONG RENNER UP ALMA TO PGBT.

AND THE SECOND LINE IS PART OF NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT SYSTEM, WHICH RUNS FROM THE, UH, PUMP STATION ALONG RENNER TO CUSTER.

AND WE'RE ALSO BUILDING A METERING STATION AS PART OF THAT FOR NORTH TEXAS AS WELL.

UH, THE WORK IS BEING PERFORMED BY A CMAR CONTRACT, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT DELIVERY METHOD THAN WE TYPICALLY USE.

BUT, UH, THE, THE CITY WATER, THE CITY OF RICHARDSON WATERLINE, EXCUSE ME, UH, IS COMPLETE IN THE GROUND.

UM, WE ARE WORKING WITH PARKS DEPARTMENT RIGHT NOW TO STAKE OUT THE, UH, 30 32 OF THE 50 HARDWOOD TREES THAT WE ARE PLANNING ON PUTTING BACK, AS WELL AS GETTING THE IRRIGATION, UH, LAID OUT WITHIN THE MEDIAN'S.

LONG RENTER.

WE EXPECT THAT WORK TO BE COMPLETED END OF THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR IN FOURTH QUARTER 24.

THE GROUND STORAGE TANK IS, UH, EXPECTED TO BE COMPLETED AROUND THAT TIMEFRAME AS WELL.

THE PUMP STATION, UH, WE'RE LOOKING SPRING TIMEFRAME FOR WRAPPING UP THAT, UM, IN, IN THE SECOND QUARTER.

UM, THE GENERATOR FOR THE PUMP STATION, LIKE ANYTHING ELSE, LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT, ELECTRICAL, IT HAS LONGER LEAD TIME, SO WE'RE EXPECTING TO TAKE DELIVERY OF THAT FOURTH QUARTER, UM, NEXT YEAR.

AND THE NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT WATER LINE AND METERING STATION, WE'RE HOPING TO GET WRAPPED UP, UH, BEGINNING OF 2025 IN THE FIRST QUARTER.

UH, LIKE I SAID, HERE IN THE UPPER RIGHT HAND CORNER IS A PICTURE OF THE GROUND STORAGE TANK.

UH, WE HAVE ERECTED THE WALLS AND THE CEILING PANEL.

THEY POURED THE DOME RING.

UH, THEY PUT THE FIRST LIFT OF SHOTCRETE ON THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING LAST WEEK, AND THEY ARE GOING TO BE STARTING TO PUT THE, UH, PRETENSION WIRE, UH, AROUND THE, THE EXTERIOR OF THE TANK LATER THIS WEEK.

I GUESS GETTING TO MOVE ON TO THE WASTEWATER SIDE OF THINGS.

OH, EXCUSE ME.

UH, SIMILAR TO THE WATER SYSTEM, WE HAVE GUIDING PRINCIPLES, WHICH ARE TO FOLLOW ALL OF OUR FEDERAL, STATE, AND LOCAL REG UH, REGULATIONS AND EFFICIENTLY AND EFFECTIVELY MANAGE, OPERATE, AND MAINTAIN ALL PARTS FOR OUR WASTEWATER COLLECTION SYSTEM.

PROVIDE ADEQUATE CAPACITY TO CONVEY OUR PEAK FLOWS, MINIMIZE THE FREQUENCY OF OUR SANITARY SEWER OVERFLOWS, AND MITIGATE THE IMPACT OF THOSE OVERFLOWS, AS WELL AS CONTINUE OUR CMOM PROGRAM, OUR CAPACITY MANAGEMENT OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE INITIATIVES.

UH, WE'LL CONTINUE TO COORDINATE WITH OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS, REGIONAL DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS, UH, TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE, UH, MEETING OUR STRATEGIC CAPITAL PLANNING AND TIMELY PROJECT DELIVERY TO ACCOMMODATE FUTURE SYSTEM DEMANDS AND CONTINUE TO CLOSELY PARTNER WITH NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT, CITY OF DALLAS, AND THE CITY OF GARLAND ON REGIONAL WASTEWATER INITIATIVES SINCE THEY PROVIDE OUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT.

UH, A LITTLE BIT OF A OVERVIEW OF OUR, OUR SEWER COLLECTION SYSTEM.

THE CITY'S, UH, WASTEWATER SYSTEM IS, UH, COMPRISED OF FIVE DIFFERENT WA OUR SEWER SHEDS, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE ON THE MAP.

UM, WE HAVE SIX DIFFERENT DISCHARGE POINTS FROM OUR SYSTEM TO THE, UH, THREE ENTITIES THAT TREAT OUR WASTEWATER.

UH, EACH ONE OF THE YELLOW DOTS KINDA SHOWS THE DIS THE DISCHARGE POINT AT THE CITY LIMIT LINE WHERE THE FLOWS ENTER THE OTHER ENTITIES SYSTEMS. UM, KINDA ON THE LEFT SIDE THERE, THE PURPLE AREAS, THE COTTONWOOD CREEK, UH, BASIN, WHICH GOES TO THE CITY OF DALLAS FOR TREATMENT.

THE YELLOW BASIN FLOYD BRANCH, UH, GOES TO NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT.

THE GREEN AREA IS DUCK CREEK BASIN, WHICH GOES TO THE CITY OF GARLAND.

THE PINK AREA AT THE TOP IS THE SPRING CREEK AND PRAIRIE CREEK BASIN, WHICH GOES TO NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT.

AND THE BLUE BASIN ON THE, THE RIGHT IN THE PANHANDLE GOES TO ROLLETTE CREEK BASIN, WHICH IS ALSO TREATED BY NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT.

WE HAVE 430 MILES OF WASTEWATER MAINE IN THE CITY OF RICHARDSON, 5,430 MANHOLES, 2200 MAINLINE CLEANOUTS, AS WELL AS FIVE LIFT STATIONS AND 10 WASTEWATER PUMPS.

AND WE RECEIVE 840 CALLS OF SERVICE DURING THE COURSE OF THE YEAR.

UH, KINDA MOVING ON TO WHAT OUR CMOM PROGRAM IS.

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UH, CMOM PROGRAM WAS, UH, MANDATED BY THE EPA IN NORTH TEXAS IN 2016, AND WAS IMPLEMENTED IN 2017 WITH THE INTENT OF ENSURING OUR SYSTEM IS PROPERLY MANAGED, OPERATED, AND MAINTAINED TO ENSURE ADEQUATE CAPACITY TO CONVEY OUR FLOWS AND THE STEPS WERE TAKEN TO ELIMINATE EXCESSIVE INFILTRATION AND INFLOW INTO OUR SYSTEM.

THE REHABILITATION EFFORTS HAVE OCCURRED CONCURRENTLY WITH OUR ASSESSMENTS, WHICH ALLOWED THE REHABILITATION STRATEGIES TO TARGET THE DEFICIENCIES AND SOURCES OF I AND I INDICATED WITHIN THE ASSESSMENTS.

USING THIS APPROACH HAS ALLOWED THE CITY TO BE AHEAD OF OUR SCHEDULE ON THE PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED TO EPA.

UM, THE CM OM PROGRAM IS PRETTY MUCH MADE UP FOUR MAIN COMPONENTS, THE CAPACITY, WHICH ENSURES THAT WE ARE ABLE TO, UH, CONVEY THE FUTURE FLOWS AND OUR, OUR CURRENT AND FUTURE FLOWS.

UH, WE DEVELOPED COMPUTER MODEL, UH, TO, TO PERFORM ENGAGED PERFORMANCE OF THE SYSTEM, AND WE BASED A LOT OF THE INPUTS ON COLLECTED DATA AS WELL AS PROJECTIONS.

OUR POPULATION PROJECTIONS FOR FUTURE GROWTH.

THE MANAGEMENT OF THE SYSTEM, UM, HINGES VERY HEAVILY ON TRAINING RELATED TO OUR ROUTINE MAINTENANCE SAFETY AND ON, UM, CONFINED SPACE ENTRY, TRAFFIC CONTROL, RECORD KEEPING, PUMP STATION OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE, ELECTRICAL AND INSTRUMENTATION, UM, SSO OR SANITARY SEWER OVERFLOW EMERGENCY RESPONSE, AS WELL AS PUBLIC RELATIONS AND CUSTOMER SERVICE.

THE RECORDS AND INFORMATION THAT ARE GENERATED ARE TRACKED WITHIN OUR, UH, ASSET MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE AND WORK ORDER SYSTEMS. CITY WORKS, THE OPERATIONS END OF THINGS, UM, RELY HEAVILY ON DOCUMENTATION AND DETAILED PROCEDURES USED TO GUIDE OUR STAFF THROUGH VARIOUS SITUATIONS.

UM, ALSO THE OPERATION PROCEDURES FOR VARIOUS MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT FOR LIFT STATIONS AND GRIT REMOVAL.

OPERATIONS STAFF ALSO ENGAGES IN MULTIPLE MOCK EMERGENCY SCENARIOS RELATED TO BOTH THE COLLECTION AND, UH, COLLECTION SYSTEM AND, AND LIFT STATIONS TO TEST AND IMPROVE OUR OVERFLOW RESPONSE.

AND ON THE MAINTENANCE END OF THINGS, UH, MAINTENANCE IS EITHER PLANNED OR UNPLANNED.

UH, THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF PLANNED MAINTENANCE.

THERE'S PREDICTIVE AND PREVENTATIVE PREDICTIVE MAINTENANCE LOOKS TOWARDS WARN, UH, EARLY WARNING SIGNS OF FAILURE SO THAT WE CAN, SO THAT WE CAN AVOID EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT OR MAINTENANCE, EXCUSE ME.

UH, PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE CONSIST OF SCHEDULED MAINTENANCE, UM, ACTIVITIES PERFORMED ON A REGULAR BASIS, UH, AND THEN UNPLANNED IS TYPICALLY A RESULT OF SOME FORM OF FAILURE.

OUR GOAL IS TO CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN OUR SYSTEM WITH PLANNED MAINTENANCE AND REDUCE OUR UNPLANNED MAINTENANCE.

UH, AND TO DO THAT, WE ENGAGE WITH OUR CON OUR CONDITION ASSESSMENTS.

WE PERFORM REHABILITATION.

UH, WE USE VARIOUS PIECES OF EQUIPMENT SUCH AS OUR VAC TRUCKS AND, AND CAMERAS AND SUCH.

UH, WE REALLY, WE NEED TO STRIVE TO CUT DOWN THE I AND I, UM, IT'S CAUSED BY STORMWATER AND GROUNDWATER THAT, UH, THAT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE TAKE THAT OUT OF THERE.

THAT'S WATER THAT DOES NOT NEED TO BE TREATED.

THAT CAN CAUSE, UH, THAT TAKES UP OUR, OUR SEWER SYSTEM CAPACITY.

IT LEADS TO ADDITIONAL COST FOR TREATMENT, AND, UH, IT ALSO CAN BE CAUSES OF SSOS, WHICH CAN BE A SOURCE OF FINES FOR US.

I THINK THIS, UH, GRAPHIC HERE ON THE, ON THE SCREEN DOES A GREAT JOB OF, UH, ILLUSTRATING WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO GET AWAY FROM AND, AND BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR.

SO ON THE, ON THE LEFT HERE, UM, YOU CAN SEE THE VARIOUS TYPES OF CONNECTIONS AND POINTS OF INFLOW WE GET INTO OUR SYSTEM THAT WE'RE, WE'RE CONSTANTLY FIGHTING, TRYING TO CUT OFF.

SO WE HAVE DIRECT CONNECTIONS OR WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AND TRYING TO MITIGATE FOR DIRECT CONNECTIONS OF GUTTERS AND ROOF DRAINS COMING OFF OF, OFF THE BUILDINGS THAT GO DIRECTLY INTO SEWER SERVICE LINES, UNCAPPED CLEAN OUTS THAT CAN BE, EXCUSE ME, UNCAPPED CLEAN OUTS THAT CAN HAPPEN IF LAWNMOWER HITS IT TAKES IT OFF.

AND NEXT THING YOU KNOW, IT'S A DIRECT POINT OF, OF DRAINAGE TO RUN IN THERE.

UH, CRACKED SEWER LINES AND TREE IN TREE ROOT INTRUSION INTO THE SYSTEM, WHICH OPENS, OPENS IT UP FOR GROUNDWATER.

THAT'S ALL ON THE PRIVATE SIDE.

ON THE PUBLIC SIDE, WE, WE LOOK FOR OTHER CROSS CONNECTIONS FROM OUR, OUR SEWER, OUR STORM SEWER LINE THAT DIRECTLY CONNECTS INTO OUR SEWER MAIN OR AN, AN INLET FROM, FROM THE DRAINAGE SYSTEM CONNECTING IN THERE.

UH, AND THEN OF COURSE, GENERAL

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CONDITION OF OUR SEWER MAIN WITH CRACKS AND MANHOLE AND SUCH AS WELL.

SO THE JOB IS ONGOING AND NEVER ENDING.

UM, ON THE OPERATIONS END, YOUR OUR PLAN, UH, YOU CAN KINDA SEE FROM 21 OUR ACTUALS FROM 21, 22, 22, 23.

AND THEN OUR PROJECTION, UM, OUR PROGRAM AND MAINTENANCE TAKES IN PRIMARILY OUR, UH, COUPLE OF CMOM FUNDED ENGINEERS AND INSPECTORS.

OUR CONDI OUR CONDITION ASSESSMENTS ARE PRETTY MUCH THAT SMOKE TESTING, VIDEO INSPECTIONS AND SUCH.

UH, REHABILITATION IS OUR CONSTRUCTION BY CONTRACTS AND SEWER OPERATIONS.

UH, TAKES IN SEWER COLLECTION SYSTEM BUDGET MATERIALS, AND, UH, SOME OF THE EMPLOYEES OUT OF THE PUBLIC SERVICES ARE, UH, ARE FUNDED IN THAT.

UH, THE TREND IS A LITTLE BIT MISLEADING ON THIS SLIDE.

SO 22, 23, THERE WAS, UH, A LOT GOING ON WITH DELAYS AND SUCH.

SO THE REAL REHABILITATION CONSTRUCTION WAS SUPPOSED TO BE 1.9 MILLION 78,000.

AND YOU CAN SEE WE HAD 600 AND 661,000 JUST UNDER 662,000 THAT WAS SPENT.

AND THAT BASICALLY CAUSED THAT WORK TO ROLL OVER INTO FISCAL YEAR 2324, WHICH YOU'LL SEE ON THE NEXT SLIDE.

UM, THE PROJECT LIST FOR THIS PAST YEAR WAS PRETTY LENGTHY.

AND THEN THE FOLLOW UP SLIDE'S GONNA LOOK LIKE WE'RE NOT DOING MUCH, BUT, UH, THE PROJECT LIST, UH, ON THE MAINTENANCE SIDE, WE INCLUDED, UH, COTTONWOOD, THE COTTONWOOD BASIN MANHOLE REHAB.

PHASE TWO WAS COMPLETED, UH, JUST FOR A SENSE OF SCALE.

THAT WAS 224 MANHOLES THAT WERE REPLACED AS PART OF THAT PROJECT.

THE, UH, FY 23 PIPE REHAB, UH, WAS WRAPPED UP THIS PAST MAY JUST A COUPLE WEEKS AGO.

THE FY 24 PIPE REHAB, UH, PROJECT IS, WAS JUST KICKED OFF.

UH, PRAIRIE CREEK MANHOLE REHAB.

UM, WAS, WILL BE STARTING THAT, UH, WILL INCLUDE 142 MANHOLES.

THE, UH, RAINBOW CREEK SEWER MAIN REPAIR, UH, CONSTRUCTION IS COMPLETE.

THE FY 25 PIPE REHAB DESIGN WILL BE COMPLETE, UH, LATER THIS FISCAL YEAR.

AND THE SPRING CREEK MANHOLE REHAB, UH, DESIGN WILL BE COMPLETE BEFORE THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR AS WELL.

UH, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE, WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO MAKE SOME, SOME GOOD PROGRESS RELATIVE TO WHAT OUR CMOM PLAN WAS THAT WAS SUBMITTED.

WE, UH, ARE ON OUR LAST HALF OF OUR LAST BASIN ON THE, UH, ASSESSMENTS THAT NEED TO BE COMPLETED AS PART OF THAT PLAN.

UH, IT'S THE LAST HALF OF THE ROLLETTE BASIN, UM, CONTINUING TO WORK ON THAT.

AND OUR SEWER MAIN MANHOLE INSPECTIONS, UH, ARE KIND OF WINDING DOWN.

WE WE'RE NOT GOING ON A WHOLE BASIN BY BASIN BASIS.

WE ARE GETTING DOWN TO THE POINT WHERE WE ARE LOOKING AT IT ON A PROJECT BY PROJECT BASIS.

SO WE'VE KIND OF MADE THAT WHOLE ORBIT.

AND NOW WE'RE STARTING TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, TACTICAL WITH WHERE WE, WHERE WE ARE, UH, MOVING FORWARD.

AND WE CONTINUE TO WORK WITH NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT ON LONG-TERM PLANNING EFFORTS FOR OUR SEWER SYSTEM.

LOOKING FORWARD, UH, FOR OUR PLAN FOR THIS COMING YEAR.

ON THE OPERATIONS END, UH, YOU CAN SEE THE, THE PROGRAM MANAGEMENT AND EQUIPMENT WENT DOWN SLIGHTLY.

THERE WAS, UH, LITTLE BIT OF A CODING ERROR ON, UM, THERE WAS ONE OF THE EMPLOYEES THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE INCLUDED IN THE GENERAL FUND WAS PUT INTO CMOM LAST YEAR.

SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF CORRECTION THERE.

IT WAS A VERY MINOR THING, BUT THAT, THAT'S WHY THERE'S A SMALL DECREASE IN THAT.

OUR CONDITION ASSESSMENT, LIKE I SAID, UH, WE ARE GETTING DOWN TO NOT NECESSARILY BEING ON A BASIN WIDE LEVEL ANYMORE.

SO THAT'S KIND OF WINDING DOWN, UM, AND BEING A LITTLE BIT MORE TARGETED.

AND OUR REHAB IS, UH, KIND OF WINDING UP.

SO WE'RE GETTING A LITTLE BIT OF AN INVERSE RELATIONSHIP ON THE ASSESSMENTS AND A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THE CONSTRUCTION BASED ON THE PREVIOUSLY PERFORMED ASSESSMENTS.

AND OUR SEWER OPERATIONS ARE ABOUT 1.1 MILLION FOR A TOTAL OF 4.6 MILLION.

AND OUR KIND OF RIGHT-SIZED, UH, MAINTENANCE PLAN HERE FOR NEXT YEAR, UH, INCLUDES THE FY 25 PIPE REHAB CONSTRUCTION, STARTING THE FY 26 PIPE REHAB DESIGN, UH, KIND OF HITTING STRIDE AS WELL AS THE, UH, SPRING CREEK MANHOLE REHAB WILL BE IN CONSTRUCTION.

AND OUR DATA COLLECTION AND SEWER MAIN INSPECTIONS WILL CONTINUE ON A PROJECT BY PROJECT BASIS, AND EVERYTHING WILL BE A LITTLE BIT MORE RISK BASED, UM, ON THE INSPECTION FRONT.

AND WE WILL ONCE AGAIN CONTINUE TO COLLABORATE WITH NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT ON LONG-TERM SEWER INITIATIVES.

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MOVING INTO THE CAPITAL SIDE, OUR PLAN IS, OR EXCUSE ME, OUR, OUR ACTUALS FROM 2122 AND 2223.

AND OUR PROJECTIONS FOR, FOR THE REMAINDER OF THIS YEAR ARE 3.6 MILLION ON THE WASTEWATER MAIN REPLACEMENT, 700,000 ON MANHOLE REPLACEMENT FOR A TOTAL OF 4.3 MILLION.

AND OF THAT, UH, THE GRAVITY MAINS THAT WE ARE WORKING ON REPLACING, UH, WE ARE DOING A LARGE STUDY ON THE COTTONWOOD CREEK TRUNK MAIN, UH, WHICH IS A LARGE PROJECT.

AND THEN WE'RE, WE'RE ALSO INCLUDE, ALSO INCLUDED IN THAT IS RECONSTRUCTION OF THE SEWER LINE AS PART OF OUR, OUR LAKESIDE BOULEVARD AND LAWN VIEW, LAWN VIEW DRIVE, UH, PROJECT, WHICH IS IN DESIGN.

AND WE'LL BE, UH, GOING TO CONSTRUCTION, UH, BEFORE THE END OF THE CALENDAR YEAR.

THE GREENVILLE PHASE ONE, UH, WASTEWATER PROJECT, WHICH GOES FROM THE FLOYD BRANCH, UH, WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT TO CENTENNIAL.

UM, THE DESIGN IS NEARLY COMPLETE.

WE ARE WAITING ON A FINE, UH, FINAL ADJUSTMENT.

UH, ONCE NORTH TEXAS FINISHES THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, UM, EXPANSION THAT'S GOING ON.

WE HAVE A SEWER REPLACEMENT IN SEVERAL OF OUR BOND AT OUR 21 BOND ALLEY GROUPS.

THERE ARE SEVERAL DIFFERENT SEGMENTS IN THE VARIOUS PROJECTS THAT, UH, ARE PART OF THOSE NORTH GLENVILLE DRIVE.

WE ARE REPLACING THE SEWER LINE AS PART OF THAT PROJECT.

WEST PRAIRIE CREEK.

UH, THE CONSTRUCTION'S PRETTY MUCH DONE.

WE HAVEN'T, WE'RE STILL SHOWING THAT AS CONSTRUCTION SINCE THAT PROJECT HASN'T BEEN CLOSED OUT JUST YET.

UH, MCKINNEY STREET RECONSTRUCTION IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION AS WELL AS CUSTER FROM ARAPAHOE AND CAMPBELL.

UH, CONSTRUCTION'S DONE.

WE JUST HAVEN'T CLOSED OUT THE CONTRACTS JUST YET.

THE CUSTER PARKWAY PROJECT WILL WE ANTICIPATE HAVING INTO CONSTRUCTION HERE LATER THIS SUMMER.

UH, HUFFINES CREEK, CHESTNUT CREEK EROSION AND SANITARY AND SEWER IMPROVEMENT, UH, INCLUDES A LARGE, UH, 21 INCH SEWER LINE THAT WAS, UH, PART OF OUR, OUR MASTER PLAN THAT WILL BE STARTING HERE, UH, LATER THIS SUMMER AS WELL.

IN THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE, THE FLOYD BRANCH MANHOLE REPLACEMENT PRIORITY ONE WAS COMPLETED AS WELL AS THE CANYON CREEK, UH, GOLF MAN HOLE, CANYON CREEK GOLF COURSE MANHOLE, UH, CAMPBELL PLANO MANHOLE, AND SHERMAN ROAD MANHOLE, WHICH WERE PART OF OUR FY 23, UH, MANHOLE REPLACEMENTS.

MOVING FORWARD TO NEXT YEAR ON OUR, OUR FUND, UH, PRETTY MUCH THE SAME EXCEPT OUR, WE'RE NOT DOING AS MANY MANHOLE REPLACEMENTS.

UH, WE HAVE GONE LARGE SCALE IN SO MANY, SO MANY OF THE BASINS THAT WE ARE STARTING TO CATCH UP.

SO WE JUST DON'T HAVE AS MANY THAT WE NEED TO DO NEXT YEAR.

AND OUR, OUR PROPOSED PLAN INCLUDES THE FY 25 SEWER PIPE REHAB DESIGN, COTTONWOOD CREEK TRUNK MAIN DESIGN.

WE'LL BE MOVING THAT FROM, FROM STUDY TO DESIGN.

UH, SEWER REPLACEMENT WILL CONTINUE ON THE, THE SIX ALLEYWAY SEGMENTS.

THE CANYON VALLEY CANYON BROOK PROJECT WILL BE IN CONSTRUCTION AS WELL AS THE RICHLAND PARK FROM WENTWORTH TO SHEFFIELD.

NORTH GLENVILLE DRIVE WILL CONTINUE AS WELL AS, UH, THAT'S ACTUALLY CUSTER PARKWAY, NOT CUSTER ROAD.

I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT TYPO.

LAWN MEADOW DRIVE, PHASE ONE WILL BE IN CONSTRUCTION, UH, RECONSTRUCTION OF LAKESIDE BOULEVARD AND LAWN VIEW WILL BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION AS WELL AS HUFFINES AND CHESTNUT CREEK EROSION AND SANITARY SEWER AND MANHOLES WILL CONTINUE TO EVALUATE AND REPLACE ON AN AS NEEDED BASIS AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

AND I BELIEVE THAT'S IT.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? AWESOME.

COUNSEL, ANY QUESTIONS MR. SHA? THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, AND THANK YOU FOR THIS WONDERFUL PRESENTATION.

UH, VERY DETAILED INFORMATION OUT THERE.

UH, AND I'M GLAD THAT YOU MENTIONED A FEW THINGS THAT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE RAIN WATER DOES NOT NEED TO GO TO THE SEWER PIPE.

AND, UH, BUT I WISH RAINWATER WOULD LISTEN TO US, BUT THEY DON'T.

UH, AND AT THE COST FOR, YOU KNOW, WASTEWATER TREATMENT IS, I THINK IT'S OVER $2 PER THOUSAND GALLON, RIGHT? SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

UH, IT'S, IT'S VERY CLOSE TO THE WATER.

ACTUAL DRINKING WATER COST TREATMENT, LITTLE LESS THAN THAT.

SO DO YOU HAVE ANY NUMBERS? I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE TODAY.

I'M NOT EXPECTING THIS ANSWER TODAY, BUT IF YOU CAN, UH, SEE THAT THE VOLUME OF INI THAT GOES TO OUR SYSTEM, I'M SURE YOU HAVE THAT NUMBER BECAUSE CITY HAS DONE CONDITION ASSESSMENT.

WE, WE HAVE THE ORIGINAL PEAKING FACTORS, BUT SINCE WE DID ALL OF THE ASSESSMENTS, WE HAVEN'T DONE ANY FOLLOW UP FLOW TESTING SINCE WE'VE IMPLEMENTED THE CMOM.

SO HAVE, WE

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HAVE THE INITIAL, BUT WE HAVEN'T DONE ANY FOLLOW UP TESTING YET.

IT'S BEEN THE ASSESSMENTS AND PUTTING THE MONEY INTO THE IMPROVEMENTS.

WE HAVEN'T DONE ANY UPDATES IN THAT REGARD.

SO, SO WE SHOULD HAVE SOME IMPROVEMENT THERE.

UH, NOW, YEAH, I WOULD NOT ASK GO AND GET THE FLOW MONITORING DONE, BUT BECAUSE THAT'S VERY EXPENSIVE ALSO.

NOW ON THE, I KNOW I'VE SEEN SMOKE TESTING WAS DONE LAST SUMMER, I SAW ON THE NEWSPAPER, CITIZEN NEWSPAPER FLYER THAT SAYS SMOKE TESTING, AND I'VE SEEN TRUCK DRIVING AROUND THE CITY.

SO WHAT DO YOU DO? I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, FROM THE SMOKE TESTING IS VERY FAIRLY CHEAP WAY TO FIND THE LEAK, UH, WASTEWATER PIPE LEAK.

UH, SO WHAT DO YOU DO? I MEAN, UH, AFTER THAT RESULT, UH, IF YOU FIND SOME LEAK, DO YOU, DO YOU PRIORITIZE IS THE SOURCE OF LEAK AND TAKE ACTION QUICK OR IN GENERAL? NOT, NOT, NOT, YES.

WE, WE TRY AND IDENTIFY WHERE THE LEAK IS, AND THEN WE PUT IT IN QUEUE WITH WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE DOING FOR THAT YEAR.

SO WE DO SMOKE TESTING AND, UH, BASED ON THE RESULTS OF THE SMOKE TESTING, WE ADD THAT TO THE PIPE REHAB OR THE, THE MANHOLE REHAB FOR THAT.

THAT YEAR.

WE, OR THE FOLLOWING YEAR, EXCUSE ME, WE, WE DESIGN ONE YEAR AND WE TRY AND IMPLEMENT THE FOLLOWING YEAR WITH, WITH REPAIRS, UM, VARIOUS TYPE.

DO YOU, OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UH, DO YOU RECALL SEEING ANY CONNECTION, ILLEGAL CONNECTION, UH, UH, FROM INDIVIDUAL HOUSES TO THE SOURCE SYSTEM? BASICALLY THE CONNECTION IS MAYBE THE SUM PUMP THEY HAVE IN THE BACKYARD, UH, DRAINAGE STRUCTURE THAT GOES AREA DRAIN THAT GOES TO THE SEWER SYSTEM.

ANY, I DON'T, I DON'T RECALL OF ANYTHING WE'VE FOUND AS OF LATE SINCE I'VE, I'VE BEEN HERE IN THE LAST YEAR.

OKAY.

IT WAS JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE SOME OF THE HOUSES, I THINK THEY STARTED INSTALLING SOME PUMP BECAUSE HOUSE SETTLEMENT OLD HOUSES, UH, UNFORTUNATELY, UH, UNFORTUNATELY THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, 70 YEARS AGO THAT WAS NOT TAUGHT VERY WELL.

NOW IT'S HAPPENING TODAY.

SO YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THAT.

I'M GLAD THAT OUR RESIDENCE HAS NOT DONE ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

YEAH, I GUESS I CAN'T SPEAK TO IF ANY WERE FOUND YEARS PRIOR TO ME JOINING THE CITY, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE ANY WERE FOUND IN THE LAST YEAR.

YEAH, THAT'S GOOD.

BECAUSE IN THE, LIKE SOME OF THE STATE, THEY HAVE BASEMENT, TYPICALLY THEY WOULD CONNECT THEIR AREA DRAIN SUM UP TO THE SEWER SYSTEM, AND THAT WAS VERY COMMON.

MANY OTHER, MANY OF THE STATES THAT WAS BIG, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE LARGEST SOURCE OF INI TO THE SEWER, BECAUSE IF YOU REPAIR, IF YOU DO THE CAPACITY IMPROVEMENT OF THE PIPE FOR THE BIGGER PIPE, YOUR SEWER WATER IS NOT GOING TO THAT PIPE.

YOU ARE BRINGING MORE RAIN WATER, THEY WILL BE TAKING OVER.

SO SOMETIMES IT'S TRICKY TO, YOU KNOW, GO PUT A LARGER PIPE OR FIX THE SOURCE FIRST.

SO I HOPE OUR, YOU KNOW, THE MODELING, UH, IS THIS, I DON'T THINK THE MODELING RICHARD IS DOING IN-HOUSE.

I THINK RE NICHOLS DOING IT WAS FREEZE NICHOLS HAD DONE THE ORIGINAL MODELING.

YES, SIR.

OKAY.

SO, UH, I HOPE THAT, UH, THEY'RE VERY CLEAR ON THE PIPE SIZE THAT RECOMMENDATION, THAT IT'S THE COMBINATION OF INI AND THE WASTEWATER CAPACITY VERSUS ACTUAL WASTEWATER CAPACITY WITH LIKE SOME, UH, WISHFUL THINKING THAT WE CAN GET RID OF SOME INI SOMEDAY.

UH, THAT THAT'S HOW OTHERWISE WE TRY TO PUT LARGER PIPE UNDER GREENVILLE AND, UH, THINKING THAT INI IS COMING.

SO WE NEED TO PUT, WE HAVE 24 INCH, WE HAVE TO PUT 36 INCH.

THAT 36 INCH NOT GOING TO BE ENOUGH, BECAUSE THEN YOU ARE BRINGING MORE RAINWATER FROM THE OPEN SOURCE.

IT'S, IT'S KIND OF TRICKY.

I HOPE, YOU KNOW, UH, TH THOSE ARE LOOKED AT VERY CLOSELY.

VERY COMMON MISTAKE EVEN FROM EXPERIENCED ENGINEER.

JUST, JUST TO POINT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. CORCORAN.

HEY, I'M SORRY.

I ACTUALLY JUST HAD, UH, A QUESTION FOR ERIC THAT I FORGOT TO ASK ERIC.

UM, YOU KNOW, I NOTICED THAT THERE WERE SUBSTANTIALLY LESS CALLS FOR SERVICE, UH, THIS YEAR THAN LAST YEAR.

AND THEN JUST FROM SORT OF A BUDGET PERSPECTIVE AND SORT OF A MAN HOURS PERSPECTIVE, I MEAN, CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE IMPACT OF THAT AND WHY YOU THINK THAT WAS ON THE SIDE? UH, IT WAS ON THE WATER MAINTENANCE.

SO THOSE CALLS FOR SERVICE, YOU KNOW, THEY JUST VARY.

YOU KNOW, WET YEARS COULD, MM-HMM, INCREASE THE CALLS, DRY YEARS COULD INCREASE THE CALLS, UH, PRETTY NORMAL WEATHER PATTERN.

IT COULD TABLE OFF, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE BUDGET LINES I HAD, I THINK IT WAS IN WATER MAIN REPLACEMENTS IN 2122, WE SPENT $400,000 AND WE'RE IN THE $800,000 RANGE.

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THAT'S MORE IN LINE WITH WHAT WE TYPICALLY DO IN A TYPICAL YEAR.

UM, SO, UH, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES IT IS WEATHER PATTERNS.

IT'S NOT NECESSARILY, YOU KNOW, INDICATIVE LIKE PIPE AGE OR THINGS THAT AREN'T BEING DONE CORRECTLY.

OKAY.

UM, YOU KNOW, SO YEAH, IT JUST, IT JUST KIND OF A VARYING NUMBER.

OKAY.

DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION OR? YEAH, I THINK IT DOES.

I MEAN, IT JUST MAKES, IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU REALLY CAN'T PREDICT WELL, BECAUSE IT COULD DEPEND ON THE WEATHER AND IT DOESN'T, IT'S NOT AS A RESULT OF ANY NEW TECHNOLOGY.

WE'VE IMPLEMENTED NEW WATER METERS.

YEAH.

AND THOSE, THOSE WATER LEAK CALLS ARE REFERENCED IN YOU, LIKE LARGE WATER LEAKS, LIKE MAIN BREAKS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

NOT NECESSARILY, YOU KNOW, METER LEAK OR, YOU KNOW, A VALVE LEAK, THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

SO THAT'S WHAT MAKES IT VERY THANK YOU, JOE.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

GREAT PRESENTATION.

WE'LL

[8. REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE FY 2024-2025 DRAINAGE UTILITY PROGRAM STRATEGIES]

NOW MOVE TO ITEM EIGHT, REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE PHYSICAL, PHYSICAL YEAR 20 24, 25 DRAINAGE UTILITY PROGRAM STRATEGIES.

MR. MAGNA.

GREAT MAYOR, THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE, UH, THE, THE ATTENTION TO ALL THIS DETAIL TONIGHT.

YOU KNOW, THESE DEEP DIVES ARE, UM, REALLY IMPORTANT AS WE GET TO THE BUDGET DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.

IT ALLOWS US DURING THE WORK TIME, DURING THE WORK SESSION TIME TO REALLY, UH, KIND OF SPEAK IN SHORTHAND, UH, AS WE BRING ALL OF THESE COMPETING DEMANDS TOGETHER.

AND SO, UH, NICK IS GONNA RUN US THROUGH, UH, THE DRAINAGE, UM, FUND DEEP DIVE.

I'LL, UH, KIND OF LET YOU KNOW WE'RE, WE AREN'T GONNA BE PREPARED TO TALK ABOUT ANY KIND OF, UM, FINANCIAL IMPLICATIONS FOR THE DRAINAGE FEE AT THIS TIME.

WE REALLY WANNA, UM, KIND OF, UH, HAVE A COUPLE OF OTHER DATA POINTS BEFORE WE DO THAT.

UH, SO THAT'LL BE SOMETHING MAYBE WE REVISIT, UH, DURING THE BUDGET WORKSHOP.

SO NICK, THANK YOU.

APOLOGIZE, YOU GET TO HEAR FROM ME SO MUCH THIS EVENING.

UM, BUT JUST A LITTLE BIT OF AN OVERVIEW OF WHERE WE ARE ON THE DRAIN UTILITY PROGRAM.

UH, GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF OUR, A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND, SOME OF OUR PROGRAM ELEMENTS, FUNDING, UH, SUMMARY AS WELL AS THE WORK PLAN AND STORM WATER PERMIT RENEWAL AND SOME NEXT STEPS.

SO SIMILAR TO OUR SEWER SHEDS, WE, THERE'S NO OVERALL WATERSHED MAP OF THE CITY OF RICHARDSON.

UH, WE HAVE 12 DIFFERENT WATERSHEDS WITHIN THE CITY, UH, AND THEY GO TO ONE OF THREE LOCATIONS AS FAR AS A DISCHARGE POINT, UH, PRETTY MUCH ON THE, UH, LEFT HAND SIDE THERE OR THE WEST SIDE.

UH, WE'VE GOT HUNT BRANCH IN ORANGE THAT GOES TO WHITE ROCK LAKE, AS WELL AS COTTONWOOD CREEK IN THE GREEN.

THE KIND OF PINK AREA RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF FLOYD BRANCH GOES TO WHITE ROCK AS WELL.

AND LOWEST BRANCH HERE IN THE YELLOW JACKSON BRANCH.

AND, UH, ODELIA ALL GO TO WHITE ROCK LAKE, UH, DUCK CREEK, BIG BLUE AREA THERE THAT DRAINS TO THE EAST FORK OF THE TRINITY JUST BELOW, UH, LAKE RAY HUBBARD.

AND THEN WE HAVE THE, UH, PRAIRIE CREEK, WHICH DRAINS INTO SPRING CREEK, THAT, THAT GOES, UH, INTO LAKE RAY HUBBARD, AS WELL AS BECK BRANCH AND LAC CREEK AND THE PANHANDLE AND MUDDY CREEK AS WELL.

EXCUSE ME.

UH, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THE DRAINAGE UTILITY PROGRAM.

IT WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2011 TO ADDRESS THE ENVIRONMENTAL AND REGULATORY OBLIGATIONS FOR STORM WATER THAT WAS REQUIRED BY TCEQ AND THE A PA, UH, PERFORMS SOME PUBLIC EDUCATION AND OUTREACH, AS WELL AS MONITORS OUR ILLICIT DISCHARGE DETECTION AND ELIMINATION AND OUR STORM WATER POLLUTION PREVENTION, UH, DURING AND FOR POST-CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES.

WE, THE, UH, DRAINAGE, UH, UTILITY PROGRAM ALSO MANAGES OUR FLOODPLAIN AS WELL AS OUR CAPITAL, UH, WORK AND PLANS INFRASTRUCTURE MAINTENANCE AND SUCH, AND ALLOCATES THE COST OF SERVICE THROUGH EQUITABLE RATE METHODOLOGY.

UH, THE DRAINAGE FEE IS FUNDED BY A FEE CHARGED RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES.

AND THE CAPITAL PROJECT FUNDING IS AUGMENTED BY GO BONDS AND COS FOR OTHER PARTNERSHIPS.

THE DRAINAGE UTILITY IS MADE UP OF THREE KIND OF KEY ELEMENTS, THE CITY OPERATIONS, CONTRACTS, SERVICES AND, UH, PROJECTS, CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS.

AS YOU CAN KIND OF SEE HERE, THE, THE CITY OPERATIONS IS PRIMARILY THE, THE SYSTEM MAINTENANCE AND STORM PREPARED STORM PREPARATION AND RESPONSE TCQ COMPLIANCE, UH, STREET SWEEPING, WHICH IS A SHARED, UH, RESPONSIBILITY WITH CONTRACT SERVICES AND FLOODPLAIN MANAGEMENT AND PUBLIC OUTREACH AND, AND EDUCATION.

OUR CONTRACT SERVICES INCLUDE OUR OPEN CHANNEL MAINTENANCE, LITTER ABATEMENT, STORM INSPECTION AND CLEANING, THE STORM DRAIN PIPE REPAIRS, STUDIES AND ASSESSMENTS.

UH, THERE WERE QUITE A FEW OF THOSE CONTRACTS THAT WE PUT OUT IN MAY THAT, UH, WERE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

UH, AND THEN, UH, PROJECTS FOR FLOOD PREVENTION AND EROSION PROTECTION.

THE, UH, CURRENT DRAINAGE FEE, UM, FOR

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SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IS $4 AND 25 CENTS PER MONTH.

AND OUR NON-RESIDENTIAL RATE IS, UH, 11.90 CENTS PER HUNDRED SQUARE FEET OF IMPERVIOUS AREA FOR NOT, UH, FOR NON-RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS, UH, PROPORTIONATE TO THE, UH, RESIDENTIAL RATE.

AND OUR, UH, RATES LIKE, LIKE, UH, MR. MAGNER MENTIONED.

WERE UNDER REVIEW AND, UM, LOOKING AT WHAT SOME OPTIONS ARE ON THAT AND MOVING INTO OUR WORK PLAN, UH, YOU KIND OF SEE OUR ACTUALS FOR 22 AND, UH, 23 AND WHERE WE'RE PROJECTED TO END THIS YEAR AT 3.3 MILLION.

UH, TOTAL COST AND THE, UH, THE CONTRACT SERVICES, EXCUSE ME, UH, INCLUDED IN THAT PART OF IT ARE WATERSHEDS.

OUR WATERSHED STUDIES, OUR CHANNEL MAINTENANCE AND OUR LITTER ABATEMENT AND CITY OPERATIONS ARE TAKING IN THE DRAIN INSPECTIONS, STREET SWEEPING, UM, AND OUR GNA.

AND THEN OUR PROJECTS, OUR OUR PROJECTS, OUR PHYSICAL IMPROVEMENTS WE WE'RE PROPOSING MOVING FORWARD FOR FY 24 25, UM, A BUDGET.

IT'S PRETTY MUCH RIGHT WHERE WE WERE, UM, IN 23, 24 RELATED TO OUR WATERSHED STUDIES.

UM, AS PART OF OUR CONTRACT SERVICES, WE, UH, WHAT WE HAVE HERE, WE, WE'VE STUDIED THE BLUE AREAS, SO WE'VE PERFORMED WATERSHED STUDIES AND COMPLETED THEM, UM, FOR PRAIRIE CREEK, COTTONWOOD CREEK HUNT BRANCH, FLOYD BRANCH, LOIS BRANCH, AND DUCK CREEK.

UH, WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE SPRING CREEK PHASE ONE.

THAT'S A VERY LARGE BASIN.

UM, IT'S VERY COMPLICATED, SO WE'RE BREAKING THAT INTO TWO PIECES AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY STUDYING.

AND THAT LEAVES A COUPLE OF BASINS THAT NEED TO BE STUDIED, UH, AS PART OF FUTURE, FUTURE, UH, PROJECTS.

AND THEN WE WILL ALSO HAVE OUR CITYWIDE CREEK BANK EROSION ASSESSMENTS.

OUR 24 CHANNEL, OUR FY 24 CHANNEL MAINTENANCE, UM, WAS COMPLETE IS, IS GOING INTO CONSTRUCTION.

UM, THAT'LL BE KICKING OFF HERE THIS SUMMER.

THE, THE CONTRACT WAS AWARDED IN MAY ON THE SIXTH, I BELIEVE.

UM, AND THIS WILL GO INTO A, THIS WILL TAKE IN, UH, VEGETATION AND SET OF SEDIMENT REMOVAL FOR TEXAS CHANNEL, BECK BRANCH AND THE WEST FORK OF COTTONWOOD CREEK.

UM, AND OUR FY 25 PROJECT, UH, WILL FOCUS ON, UH, LOOKING AT EROSION ISSUES ALONG FOX CREEK.

UH, JUST ONE THING TO PROBABLY IT'S WORTH MENTIONING ON THIS, I'M SURE A LOT OF Y'ALL HAVE BEEN GETTING QUESTIONS OF, UH, GIVEN THE RECENT STORMS AND TREES DOWN IN THE CREEKS, UM, WHETHER THE CITY'S GOING TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY AND COME DO THAT.

THE CITY WILL DO IT IF THERE IS AN IMPEDIMENT TO FLOW, IF IT'S GONNA CAUSE, UH, WATER SURFACE TO RISE OR IT'S BLOCKING THE CREEK, SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.

THE CITY WILL DISPATCH CREWS AND TAKE CARE OF THAT.

IF IT'S NOT, UM, THAT'S JUST KIND OF THE NATURAL CONDITION OF LIVING IN A WOODED AREA.

UH, THE CITY'S NOT GONNA COME OUT TO JUST TAKE A TREE DOWN THAT OR REMOVE A TREE THAT MAY HAVE FALLEN DOWN THE STORM THAT'S JUST IN THE OVERBANK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

THAT'S KINDA A NATURAL CONDITION.

OR THE PROPERTY OWNER WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR CLEANING THAT UP IF THEY, IF THEY WANTED IT OUT OF THEIR YARD.

UH, PART OF THE LITTER ABATEMENT PROGRAM, WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE 190 LOCATIONS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY COLLECTING DEBRIS FROM ACROSS THE CITY.

UH, AS OF, UH, MAY 31ST, WE HAVE COLLECTED, UM, 39,971 POUNDS TO DATE, UM, THIS YEAR, WHICH IS CLOSE TO OUR GOAL OF 47 OR CLOSE TO WHAT WE ANTICIPATE COLLECTING AT 47,000 POUNDS.

UM, COMPARED TO LAST YEAR, WE'RE TRACKING PRETTY MUCH ON PAR WITH WHERE WE WERE.

UH, LAST YEAR.

WE, WE WERE PROJECTING TO 45,000 POUNDS AND WE ENDED UP WITH ABOUT 43,000, JUST UNDER 44,000 POUNDS OF DEBRIS.

UM, WITH ALL THE EXTRA RAIN WE GOT, WE ANTICIPATE WE WILL BE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THIS YEAR.

UH, WE WILL LIKELY BE ADDING, ADDING OR MOVING THOSE BASKETS AROUND, KIND OF BASED ON SOME OF THE TCEQ UH, PERMIT REQUIREMENTS THAT I'LL TOUCH ON BRIEFLY.

AND MOVING INTO THE, THE STORMWATER INSPECTION AND REPAIR, UH, THE INSPECTIONS ARE KIND OF CITY OPERATIONS IN 24 AND FY 24.

WE DID, UH, 46,000, OR WE ANTICIPATE DOING ABOUT 46,000 LINEAR FEET OF INSPECTION,

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UH, BEFORE THE END OF THIS YEAR.

AND NEXT YEAR WE ANTICIPATE DOING ABOUT 45,000 LINEAR FEET OF VIDEO INSPECTION.

AND WE GET TO FIND ALL KINDS OF FUN THINGS LIKE YOU CAN SEE IN THOSE FOUR PICTURES.

UH, YOU CAN SEE IN THE UPPER LEFT HAND CORNER, WE, WE END UP WITH A GOOD AMOUNT OF JUST SAND IT, STABILIZED MATERIAL, UM, AND YOU HAVE A NICE CLEAN PIPE OVER HERE, BUT THEN WE HAVE A PIPE THAT WAS JUST MISTAKENLY CONSTRUCTED THROUGH THERE.

I GUESS NO OTHER WAY OF PUTTING THAT.

NOW WE HAVE JUST CONDITION ASSESSMENT ISSUES WHERE JOINTS ARE DISPLACED AND, AND THERE'S DAMAGE.

UM, WE ALSO, ANOTHER ONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT WAS ON THE, UH, MAY AGENDA WAS OUR FY 24 MISCELLANEOUS STORM REPAIRS PROJECT, WHICH TAKES IN NINE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

AND IT, UH, IT'S THERE TO REMOVE UTILITY INTRUSIONS, REPLACE DETERIORATE SECTIONS OF PIPE, UM, AND JUST TRY AND GET US BACK ON PAR SO WE DON'T HAVE THINGS LIKE THE SINKHOLE THAT IS, UH, KIND OF SHOWING UP IN BRECKENRIDGE PARK.

SO WE ARE STARTING AT THIS SUMMER AND, UM, JUST KEEP GOING ON TRYING TO RE MAINTAIN THE SYSTEM.

HERE'S JUST KIND OF A, A LITTLE BIT MORE ITEMIZED LIST OF WHAT WE ANTICIPATE, UH, HAVING MOVING FORWARD FOR PROJECTS.

UM, THE FY 24 STORM REPAIRS PROJECT, LIKE I MENTIONED, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S STARTING CONSTRUCTION HERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.

AND THEN WE HAVE FIVE PROJECTS RIGHT BELOW THAT, WHICH ARE THOMPSON AT WESTWOOD THOMPSON AT RIDGEDALE, EDITH CIRCLE AT LILAC LAGUNA DRIVE, AND TAMO SHANTER, WHICH ARE KIND OF BEING GROUPED TOGETHER AS ONE PROJECT.

IT'S CURRENTLY BEING DESIGNED THIS YEAR.

WE ANTICIPATE GOING TO CONSTRUCTION WITH THAT NEXT YEAR.

ALL THOSE PROJECTS ARE, UH, FUNDED OUT THE DRAIN UTILITY PROGRAM.

UH, WE ARE LOOKING AT LOWEST BRANCH FLOOD PREVENTION.

THAT IS A VERY LARGE PROJECT.

UH, WE ARE DESIGNING, WE HAVE A PARTIAL DESIGN CONTRACT WITH A FIRM TO DELIVER 30% PLANS.

UH, THAT PROJECT WILL BE LIKELY CONSTRUCTED IN PHASES AND THAT BECAUSE OF ITS SIZE, WE ANTICIPATE THAT BEING PART OF A FUTURE BOND PROGRAM.

UM, LAWN MEADOW DRAINAGE RELIEF.

UH, WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF AWARDING THAT CONTRACT.

WE ANTICIPATE THAT COMING UP IN JULY FOR A CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT AWARD.

UH, THAT'LL BE FUNDED OUT OF GENERAL SPECIAL PROJECTS, BUT ALSO, UH, OUR BELTLINE ROAD CULVERT REPLACEMENT AT HUNT BRANCH.

UH, THE BIDS WERE, UH, OPENED AND WE ANTICIPATE BRINGING CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT TO COUNCIL FOR AWARD ON JULY 8TH.

WITH THAT, WE'RE REAL EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

THAT'S OUR LAST, UH, PROJECT OUT OF OUR 2015 BOND PROGRAMS. WE'RE ANXIOUS TO GET GOING ON THAT ONE.

AND THEN WE'RE DOING A SECOND RO CONTROL PROJECT, UM, IN COORDINATION WITH OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT.

UM, ALONG, UH, JUST UNDER THE BRIDGE, THE, UH, RENNER ROAD BRIDGE IN, UH, BRECKENRIDGE PARK.

UH, HERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A MAP THAT SHOWS WHERE THOSE VARIOUS PROJECTS WERE ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

A LITTLE BIT OF AN UPDATE ON HUNT BRANCH.

UH, LIKE I SAID, THAT PROJECT WAS, UH, IT'S THE LAST ONE OF OUR 2015 BOND PROGRAM.

UH, THE PROJECT INTENDED TO DECREASE THE RISK OF ROAD FLOODING.

UH, SO WE'RE PUTTING A LARGE BOX CULVERT ACROSS BELT LINE AND UP COTTONWOOD CREEK.

UM, CONSTRUCT IT.

IT'S, UH, GONNA BE A BIG HOLE.

WE GOTTA PUT ACROSS BELT LINE.

SO THAT'LL BE, THAT'LL BE FUN WHEN WE GET TO CONSTRUCTION.

UH, WE'LL BE LOOKING TO START THAT LATER THIS SUMMER.

AND THAT'LL, UH, THAT'LL RUN TILL SPRING 2025.

OUR LAWN MEADOW DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT.

UM, THIS IS, UH, REALLY INTENDED TO DECREASE THE RISK OF STRUCTURAL AND ROADWAY FLOODING.

YOU CAN KIND OF SEE IN THE UPPER, UPPER HAND, UH, FIXTURE, WELL, SORRY, WRONG BUTTON.

UH, RIGHT HERE THERE'S A CULVERT THAT CROSSES THE RAILROAD AND, UH, ALL THE WAY THE KIND OF, ALL THE DRAINAGE SPREADS OUT AND FLOODS THE RIGHT OF WAY.

SO WE HAVE, UH, GONE THROUGH SEVERAL DRAINAGE EXERCISES TO MAKE SURE WE CAN, WE'VE RIGHT SIZED THE PIPE AND WE CAN REALLY PULL IT IN AND JUST KEEP IT WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAYS.

UH, BUT WE'RE GONNA BE CONSTRUCTING A LARGE CULVERT AND STORM DRAIN IMPROVEMENT, UH, SYSTEM IN THAT AREA.

UH, WE'RE GONNA BE BRINGING THAT TO COUNCIL.

WE ANTICIPATE ON JULY 8TH AND A CONSTRUCTION START LATER THIS SUMMER.

AND, UH, WRAP UP CONSTRUCTION FALL OF 25.

AND HERE'S THE PROJECT I MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT, UH, THE IMPROVE THE ROAD

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CONTROL IMPROVEMENTS ALONG BRECKENRIDGE PARK.

UH, JUST UNDER THE RENNER ROAD BRIDGE.

WE'LL BE, UH, PUTTING SOME GIAN AG GIAN, UH, BASKETS IN ALONG THE TRAIL TO KIND OF KEEP EVERYTHING FROM UNDERMINING AND, UH, CAUSING ANY DETRIMENT TO THE BRIDGE OR THE TRAIL.

UH, CONTRACT'S ALREADY BEEN AWARDED, AND WE'RE GONNA BE STARTING CONSTRUCTION HERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.

AND THEN MOVING ON TO, UH, TCEQ STORM WATER PERMIT.

UH, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF AN INTERESTING SITUATION.

OUR PERMIT WAS UP FOR RENEWAL.

UM, TCEQ HAS DELAYED EVERYTHING AS FAR AS THE, UH, REQUIREMENTS AND SUCH.

WE ARE GOING TO BE IN A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT SITUATION THAN WE WERE PREVIOUSLY BASED ON THE, UH, POPULATION OF THE 2020 CENSUS.

UH, WE'RE STILL WAITING ON SOME FINAL, UH, INFORMATION FROM THEM ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PROCEED AND, UM, PLANNING ON ISSUING THE, ISSUING OUR, UH, OUR FOLLOWING UP AND FILING FOR, FOR A NEW PERMIT WITHIN 180 DAYS OF TCQ COUNTY TELLING US WHAT THE FINAL REQUIREMENTS ARE GOING TO BE.

UM, MAYOR AND COUNSEL, I, I'LL REMIND YOU, UM, WE'VE BRIEFED ON THIS PREVIOUSLY.

UM, WE BEGAN TO LAY THE GROUNDWORK LAST YEAR.

UM, THIS YEAR WE WILL LIKELY HAVE ADDITIONAL, UM, RESPONSIBILITIES THAT'LL HAVE RESOURCE REQUIREMENTS AND IMPACTS.

AND SO, UM, WE'RE HOPING THAT WE CAN GET SOME GUIDANCE FROM TCEQ THROUGH THE BUDGET DEVELOPMENT PROCESS SO WE KNOW, UM, WHAT, UH, WHAT ADDITIONAL RESPONSIBILITIES WE'LL HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR.

UM, BUT AGAIN, JUST LIKE, UM, THE, UH, WATER STORY THAT MANDATE BEING A DRIVER, THESE NEW MANDATES FROM TCEQ WILL BE A DRIVER ON THE, ON THE, UM, ON THE DRAINAGE FUND AND, AND LIKELY NEED TO CONSIDER, UM, HOW BEST TO, UM, RESOURCE THOSE AND, YOU KNOW, SO WE'LL HAVE THAT CONVERSATION AGAIN WHEN WE GET FURTHER INTO THE BUDGET DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.

BUT THESE ARE, THESE WILL BE A WHOLE NEW SET OF STANDARDS, UM, THAT WE'LL HAVE TO, UM, TO ABIDE BY.

AND I GUESS MY UNDERSTANDING, UH, UM, NICK, IS IT'S NOT JUST, IT'S, IT'S NEW STANDARDS, UM, THAT WOULD'VE APPLIED TO US HAD WE NOT GONE TO A NEW CATEGORY, BUT THEN THERE ARE ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO THIS HIGHER CATEGORY AS WELL.

SO IT'S KIND OF A, A DOUBLE KIND OF A, UM, UM, IMPACT THAT WE, WE COULD SEE.

YEAH, WE, WE KIND OF GET HIT ON BOTH ENDS FROM IT.

MM-HMM, .

YEAH.

THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

I GUESS JUST WRAPPING UP OUR, OUR NEXT STEPS, UH, WE WELCOME ANY, ANY INPUT FROM THE COUNCIL ON THE WORK PLAN THAT WE HAVE FOR THE DRAINAGE UTILITY.

UH, WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK ON EXECUTING OUR DRAIN UTILITY WORK PLAN AND FINALIZE REVIEW OF ANY REQUIREMENTS OF ANY NEW PERMIT, UM, AND START PLANNING FOR ANY ADDITIONAL SERVICES THAT, THAT COME OUT OF THAT.

I THINK THAT'S NICK.

THANK YOU.

GREAT PRESENTATION COUNSEL.

ANY COMMENT? MR. SHA? THANK YOU.

WELL, I, JUST GOING BACK TO THAT, I KNOW THAT DON, YOU HAVE CLARIFIED THE TCEQ REQUIREMENT, UH, THAT'S COMING UP.

I THINK, UH, THOSE ARE MY UNDERSTANDING, THOSE WOULD BE MORE BOX TO CHECK AND, UH, VERIFY AND TAKE SOME ADDITIONAL STEP DURING CONSTRUCTION, THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE PROBABLY FOR US TO DO, TAKE SOME IMMEDIATE ACTION SO THAT WE HAVE TO ALLOCATE SOME FUND TO DO SOME DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENT.

IT'S GOING TO BE MORE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION.

LIKE IF SOMEBODY NEW DEVELOPER COMES, THEY WANT TO DO SOME DEVELOPMENT, SOME HOUSING, SOME SMALL, YOU KNOW, PROJECTS THAT WOULD REQUIRE THAT YOU HAVE TO DO CERTAIN THINGS TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS.

SOMETHING LIKE THAT PROBABLY.

RIGHT.

THERE WILL BE A, I THINK A LITTLE BIT OF, WE'RE ANTICIPATING SOME RETRO WORK FOR, UM, GREASE COLLECTION, THINGS LIKE THAT, UH, WITH OUR CITY FACILITIES.

UH, I THINK THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL STRUCTURAL CONTROLS THAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING FOR, UM, DEBRIS COLLECTION AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO SOME OF THE, THE LITTER ABATEMENT BASKETS, WE'RE EXPECTING TO HAVE TO RAMP SOME OF THAT UP.

UM, THERE'S MISCELLANEOUS THINGS AND WE'RE WAITING FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE GUIDANCE ON THAT.

SO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE DOING RIGHT NOW FOR DEBRIS COLLECTION, THAT'S, THAT WAS NOT REQUIRED.

YOU ARE DOING LIKE PROACTIVELY, I THINK THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, RIGHT? YES.

BUT I THINK THE REQUIREMENTS ARE GOING UP EVEN FURTHER BEYOND THAT.

IT, IT'LL GO FURTHER BEYOND.

OKAY.

YES.

UH, NOW YOU HAVE SHOWN SOME INVENTORY FOR WATER WASTEWATER.

LIKE SAY YOU HAVE, WE HAVE 580 MILES OF WATER, MAIN 4,800 FIRE HYDRANTS.

DO YOU HAVE, UH, ANYTHING,

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UH, OR DO WE HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION FOR OUR CITY THAT, HOW MANY BIG, YOU KNOW, MILE MILE DRAINAGE PIPE WE HAVE? I DON'T HAVE THAT.

YOU DON'T HAVE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT I'M, I'M SURE WE CAN, WE CAN PULL THAT, UH, INFORMATION OUT OF OUR GIS SO WE DO MAINTAIN THOSE INFORMATION.

UH, THE NUMBER OF INLETS.

OKAY.

YES.

I, I'M JUST CHECKING THAT.

AND I'VE SEEN, YOU KNOW, INTERESTINGLY, WE HAVE SOMETIMES WASTEWATER LINE THAT GOES RIGHT AT THE BOTTOM OF THE CREEK.

UH, IT'S, UH, IT'S JUST IN GENERAL QUESTION, WHAT'S THE PRACTICE? WHAT, HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT, I'M SURE IF IT WOULD, IF THOSE WOULD OVERFLOW, PEOPLE WOULD NOTICE BECAUSE WE MAINTAIN OUR DRAINAGE CREEK VERY NICELY WALKABLE DUCK CREEK BEAUTIFUL PLACE TO WALK.

IF WATER WAS COMING OUT, I'M SURE REPORTING WOULD BE IMMEDIATE.

SO I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANY OVERFLOW THERE.

HOW ABOUT OTHER WAY THAT WATER, RAIN WATER GOES TO THE PIPE? I MEAN MANY RECORD OR ANYTHING WHERE, WHERE SO INFLOW INTO OUR SEWER SYSTEM, WE ARE MAINTAINING THOSE THINGS, RIGHT? WE ARE, WE'RE KEEPING, YES.

I MEAN THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE WOULD BE DOING WITH THE, UM, INI STUDIES AND, AND THE ASSESSMENTS IS LOOKING FOR MANHOLE COVERS THAT OKAY.

STUFF LIKE THAT.

THAT WE DON'T LET THE CREEKS GET INTO THE SEWER SYSTEM.

UH, AND CERTAINLY WE STRIVE TO NOT HAVE IT COME OUT .

YEAH.

WELL, I MEAN, IF, IF IT COUNTS OUT THAT'S GOOD IN ONE SENSE, IT'LL KEEP THE PLACE GREENER, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S, NOBODY WANTS THAT.

BUT IF RAINWATER GOES IN IT, PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT THINK THAT THIS IS SMALL COST, BUT IT'S NOT.

WE ARE, SOME CITIES PAYS MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

SOME CITIES IT COULD BE HUNDRED MILLIONS OF DOLLAR DEAR, JUST BECAUSE OF THE RAIN WATER.

YOU'RE RIGHT.

AND IT, IT'S NOT JUST TREATMENT, BUT IT'S ALSO ALL THAT EXTRA WATER GOING IN THAT COULD CAUSE IT TO COME OUT SOMEWHERE ELSE WHERE IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO.

AND THEN WE COULD GET FINES THAT COME FROM THAT AND MITIGATION COSTS AND ABSOLUTELY.

YOU'RE RIGHT.

YEAH.

SO, AND BY THE WAY, SMOKE TESTING IS NOT EFFECTIVE FOR THOSE LINE BECAUSE WATER, GROUND WATER IS SATURATED.

NOTHING IS COMING IN OUT FROM THAT PLACE.

SO ANYWAY, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MR. CORKER.

UH, I REALLY QUICKLY, I JUST WANTED TO, TO COMMENT ON, LET'S JUST FOLLOW UP ON SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL MEMBER SHAEL SAID.

YOU KNOW, ONE THING THAT I THOUGHT WAS, WAS INTERESTING THAT I WAS GONNA COMMENT ON ANYWAY WAS JUST WITH THE LITTER ABATEMENT AND THE LITTER CATCHES ANYWAY, I NOTICED A LOT OF THEM ARE REALLY NOT IN THE AREA THAT WOULD FLOW INTO SPRING CREEK NATURE AREA.

AM I RIGHT IN SAYING THAT? YES.

I MEAN, IF WE HAVE TO PUT NEW ONES IN ANYWAY, UH, THE CREEK, I MEAN, THE CREEK BEDS IN SPRING CREEK ARE CONSTANTLY FULL OF TRASH.

RIGHT? I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE, YOU KNOW, UH, THE SILVER LINING, IF NOTHING ELSE THAT MAYBE WE HAVE TO PUT SOME MORE IN IF KIND OF REMEDIATE THAT.

IF YOU, SO IF YOU GO UP WHAT, LIKE ONE MORE SLIDE.

ONE MORE SLIDE OR, OR MAYBE TWO, I DON'T KNOW, WHEREVER THE, THE MAP WAS THAT SHOWED WHERE KIND OF ALL THE WATER FLOWS WERE.

THIS IS THE LIT LITTER ABATEMENT MAP.

MM-HMM.

.

SO THE BLUE DOTS ARE THE LOCATION, THE BASKETS.

AND WHAT YOU'LL NOTICE IS THEY TEND TO BE ALONG COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS.

YEAH.

WHERE YOU HAVE POCKETS OF COMMERCIAL, UM, THAT TENDS TO BE WHERE YOU HAVE THE MOST AMOUNT OF DEBRIS.

OKAY.

SO IF YOU HAVE GAS STATIONS, THINK OF COKE BOTTLES AND STUFF LIKE THAT, THAT, THAT SOMEBODY LET'S FALL OUT OF THEIR CAR OR JUST WALKING DOWN THE STREET DROPS IT INSTEAD OF PUTTING IN A TRASH RECEPTACLE.

UM, THAT'S WHERE IT ENDS UP COLLECTING.

IT'S JUST USUALLY THE PROXIMITY TO THOSE BUSINESSES THAT HAVE DISPOSABLE OR SELL DISPOSABLE TYPE GOODS LIKE THAT.

THAT'S USUALLY WHERE YOU GET THE HIGHEST SUCCESS OF CAPTURE.

MM-HMM.

IS JUST, UM, HUMAN NATURE TO, YOU KNOW, DISCARD THINGS WITH ABANDONED, A RECKLESS ABANDON I GUESS.

UM, BUT THAT, THAT'S GENERALLY WHY THEY'RE FOCUSED WHERE THEY ARE.

BUT WITH OUR EX MM-HMM, , WE DO ANTICIPATE PROBABLY HAVING TO EXPAND AND THAT COULD BE A OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO LOCATE THEM A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO THE SPRING CREEK NATURE AREA, OR AT LEAST IN THE AREAS THAT FLOW IN THERE.

I, I APPRECIATE THE EXPLANATION ON WHY THEY ARE WHERE THEY ARE NOW.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS VERY LOGICAL TO ME, BUT IT ALSO SEEMS LOGICAL IF WE'RE GONNA EXPAND IT, UM, YOU KNOW, LET'S EXPAND IT.

MY, MY VOTE WOULD BE EXPANDED UP NORTH RIGHT WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT.

SO, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S ALL I HAD EXCEPT FOR THE, THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION I HAD WAS ON EROSION CONTROL.

OKAY.

AND THAT, THAT EROSION CONTROL STUDY, I MEAN, MAYBE JUST HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT THE, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY COSTLY AND IF IT'S A RELATIVELY, IT'S GONNA BE A TIGHT YEAR FOR US.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE, WE NEED TO DO THIS YEAR? OR WHY DO WE NEED TO DO IT THIS YEAR? I GUESS THE STUDIES AREN'T TYPICALLY TERRIBLY EXPENSIVE.

OKAY.

THE CONSTRUCTION,

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IT, THE STUDIES ARE USUALLY THE MORE ECONOMICAL PORTION OF THINGS THE CONSTRUCTION IS THE MORE HEAVIER LIFT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

YEP.

COUNSEL, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I'LL ASK ONE QUESTION IF I COULD, NICK? YES, SIR.

THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

YOU MENTIONED THE, UM, BRACKENRIDGE PARKS SINK HALL, AND I APOLOGIZE, I'M NOT SURE I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THERE.

UM, IS THERE, IS IT RELATED, THE FACT THAT IT USED TO BE A DUMP OR NO, IT'S, IT'S A, A STORM DRAIN PIPE THAT, UH, AS A TOP OF IT IS KIND OF BROKEN IN.

SO THE SOIL'S GETTING INTO THE PIPE AND IT'S JUST WORKING ITS WAY INTO THE PIPE AND CREATING A VOID RIGHT THERE AT THE SURFACE.

SO WE'LL REPAIR THE PIPE, BACKFILL IT, AND THAT, THAT SHOULD BE THE END OF IT.

OKAY.

I APOLOGIZE.

I WASN'T AWARE OF THAT, SO, ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

GREAT PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU.

THAT'S GONNA BRING US TO ITEM

[10. CONSENT AGENDA]

10.

COUNSEL, I'LL BE LOOKING, IF THERE ARE, IS NO DISCUSSION, I'LL BE LOOKING FOR A, UH, MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.

MR. HUTCHIN RIDER.

MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PUBLISHED.

THANK YOU MR. CORCORAN.

I SECOND GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR.

SHOW OF HANDS HAVE PASSED THIS UNANIMOUSLY.

THAT

[11. REPORT ON ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST ]

BRINGS US TO ITEM 11, REPORT ON ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST.

MR. DORIAN.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, BRING UP TO EVERYONE'S ATTENTION, UM, AND CONGRATULATE, UH, COUNCILWOMAN, UH, JENNIFER JUSTICE FOR BEING APPOINTED, UH, FOR THE COG AND HONORING HER AS NEW COUNCILWOMAN AND BEING ELECTED TO SECRETARY AND TREASURER OF THE NORTH TEXAS COUNCIL.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I THINK WE OVER A FEW ROUND APPLAUSE.

CURTIS.

THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.

I'LL JUST ADD THIS IS A GREAT, UM, ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF HER SKILL SETS, BUT ALSO ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF THE INVOLVEMENT THAT THE CITY OF RICHARDSON HAS IN THE PAST.

LEADERSHIP FROM MAYOR SCHLEGEL, DAN, UH, JOHNSON, OUR CURRENT, UH, CITY MANAGER, DON MAGNER, OUR REGIONAL CONNECTIVITY IS GETTING STRONGER BY THE MOMENT AND HER POSITION AS A BOARD MEMBER NOW WILL CONTINUE TO ALLOW US TO HAVE A VOICE AT THE TABLE AND CONTINUE FOR US TO BE INVOLVED IN THE THINGS THAT MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE WITHIN THE METROPLEX.

SO JENNIFER, THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK AND WELL DESERVED AND THE RECOGNITION COULDN'T HAVE COME SOON ENOUGH, SO THANK YOU.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO COMMENT? UH, NO, NO.

JUST THANK YOU, UH, FOR THE, THE FAITH YOU ALL HAVING ME TO SERVE IN THAT POSITION.

IT'S AN HONOR TO BE ABLE TO SERVE AND TO TO BE AN OFFICER ON THAT BOARD NOW.

SO, UM, I'M VERY, VERY EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO SERVE FOR, FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW, WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, EVERY TWO YEARS THE POSITION ROTATES BASED ON WHERE WE ON THE BOARDS.

THIS ALLOWS US TO HAVE A PRESENCE ON THE BOARD FOR POTENTIALLY ANOTHER FOUR YEARS.

SO IT'S VERY, VERY EXCITING FOR OUR CITY, UM, AS THE MAYOR SAID, TO CONTINUE TO HAVE REPRESENTATION, UH, FROM A REGIONAL PERSPECTIVE AND BE ABLE TO HAVE A VOICE, UM, UM, REGIONALLY.

SO THANK YOU FOR, UM, ALLOWING ME TO SERVE AND, UH, IT'S A PLEASURE AND AN HONOR.

WE'RE HONORED TO HAVE YOU THERE, JOE.

THANK YOU.

UH, THE, THE PARKS COMMISSION MET ON TUESDAY AND IT WAS A, A RELATIVELY SHORT MEETING, BUT SOMETHING THAT'S UH, EXCITING THAT'S ABOUT TO HAPPEN IS, UM, AND SOME PARKS BOARD MEMBERS HAVE GONE TO JUMP AND ALREADY STARTED DOING THIS, BUT DOING THEIR SITE VISITS, UM, FOR THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS.

SO WHAT THAT IS, IS WHERE A PARKS COMMISSION MEMBER WILL GO INTO, UM, A PARKS FACILITY, GET A TOUR, THEY WILL KIND OF DO SORT OF ALMOST LIKE A SECRET SHOPPER TYPE THING AND JUST REALLY, UM, JUST REALLY SEE WHAT THE, THE CONDITION OF THE CUSTOMER SERVICE IS.

AND SO IT'S REALLY EXCITING THING AND UH, JUST LET THE PUBLIC SHOULD KNOW.

THANK YOU.

KINDA LIKE BEING A SECRET SHOPPER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, INCOGNITO.

WELL, I MEAN, I THINK AT SOME POINT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES, BUT OKAY.

GOTCHA.

YOU KNOW, .

ALRIGHT, MR. HUTCHIN RIDER.

UM, JUST WANTED TO MAKE NOTICE.

UH, MANY OF YOU MIGHT KNOW MIKE SPENCE.

MIKE'S BEEN VERY, VERY INVOLVED IN OUR COMMUNITY FOR QUITE A NUMBER OF YEARS, AND HIS WIFE DOLORES PASSED EARLIER THIS MONTH.

THEY WERE MARRIED FOR 63 YEARS AND SHE PASSED AWAY AND JUST WANTED TO MAKE NOTE OF THAT.

UM, ALSO WANTED TO MAKE NOTE OF ANOTHER PASSING, UH, ANOTHER FAMILY WHO WERE VERY INVOLVED IN RICHARDSON, UH, A FEW YEARS BACK.

UM, STEVE AND LEE NAGLE, UM, THEY WERE INVOLVED IN QUITE A F NUMBER OF FUNDRAISING ACTIVITIES IN THIS COMMUNITY AND LEE UNFORTUNATELY, UM, PASSED AWAY AND SHE WAS 55 YEARS OLD.

AND SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE NOTE OF BOTH OF THOSE.

PASSINGS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, KEN.

WE APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T GIVE A SHOUT OUT.

WE AS A COUNCIL AND THE CITY STAFF ACKNOWLEDGED AND RECOGNIZED THE VOLUNTEERS FOR

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WILDFLOWER THIS PAST WEEK, AND WE ALSO RECOGNIZED THE VOLUNTEERS FOR THE LIBRARY.

UH, TWO HUGE ACCOMPLISHMENTS.

UM, WE COULDN'T DO IT WITHOUT THOSE INDIVIDUALS.

THE LI THE LIBRARY IS THE MOST UTILIZED FACILITY WE HAVE IN THE CITY, AND THOSE PEOPLE MAKE IT HAPPEN.

SO WE'RE VERY, VERY GRATEFUL TO THE VOLUNTEERS OF THE LIBRARY.

AND THEN OF COURSE WE GET REGIONAL AND STATE RECOGNITION FOR THE WILDFLOWER AND WHAT A GREAT JOB THAT OUR STAFF DOES FOR THAT.

AND SO THANK YOU TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM FOR DOING THAT.

AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE RECENTLY PASSED AWAY.

UM, WE'LL SEND OUR PRAYERS AND THOUGHTS TO THE FAMILY OF MARILYN JONES AS WELL.

MARILYN PASSED AWAY.

SHE IS A REALTOR, HAS BEEN A REALTOR IN THE CITY FOR MANY YEARS, AND, UM, SHE HAS BEEN HIGHLY INVOLVED IN MANY, MANY THINGS THAT, UH, MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

SO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO HER.

UM, WITH THAT BEING DONE, I'D LOOK FOR A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING.

MR. HUTSON RIDER.

ALL RIGHT, A SECOND, JOE, WE'VE GOT A MOTION.

SECOND.

A SECOND TO ADJOURN.

ALL IN FAVOR? SHOW OF HANDS, PLEASE.

YES, WE'RE ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU.

9 0 1.

THANK YOU.