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I CALL THIS MEETING OF THE RICHARDSON CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER AT 6:00 PM FIRST ON OUR AGENDA WILL BE COUNCIL MEMBER DAN BARRIOS TO LEAD US IN THE INVOCATION AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
GOD OF AGES, THE ONE WHO GUIDES US WITH LOVE AND GRACE.
OH GOD, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS PAST WEEK FOR THE TIMES WHERE WE SMILED AND LAUGHED WHEN FRIENDSHIP WAS ENJOYED, MEALS SHARED, AND WE APPRECIATED BEAUTY OF NATURE AND FELT PEACE.
FOR ALL THESE MOMENTS AND MORE, WE LIFT UP.
WE LIFT UP GRATITUDE AND JOY FOR THE MOMENTS OF DIFFICULTY AND STRUGGLE.
THIS WEEK TIMES WHEN YOU WERE NOT OUR, WHEN WE WERE NOT OUR BEST.
WE CONFESSING TO YOU AND ASK FOR YOUR FORGIVENESS.
WE THINK THAT WE THANK YOU, THAT NOTHING CAN SEPARATE US FROM YOUR LOVE.
YOU DO NOT TURN AWAY FROM US, AND WE ARE NEVER ALONE.
USE US TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND AROUND THE WORLD.
MAY WE BE A BLESSING AND BEACON OF HOPE.
WE LIFT UP OUR COMMUNITY, OUR COUNTRY, THE LEADERS AROUND THIS TABLE AND LEADERS AROUND THE WORLD.
WE PRAY THAT EGOS AND POWER PLAYS WILL BE SET ASIDE SO THAT WISDOM, VISION, COLLABORATION MAY PREVAIL.
GOD, WE LIFT UP THOSE WHO ARE SUFFERING, EMBODY MIND, SPIRIT, AND THOSE IMPACTED BY NATURAL DISASTERS AND WAR.
COMFORT THEM WITH YOUR PRESENCE.
GRANT PEACE, PROVIDE HEALING AND SEND HELP.
WE PRAY THIS IN THE NAME OF JESUS.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INVIS WITH ITY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
NOW THE TEXAS FLAG, HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AN INDIVISIBLE.
AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO DEVIATE FROM THE SCHEDULE A LITTLE BIT AND RECOGNIZE TWO YOUNG LADIES IN THE AUDIENCE WITH US.
THEY'RE BOTH RICHARDSON HIGH SCHOOL, TWO, BE SENIORS, AND THEY ARE SHADOWING THE COUNCIL THIS EVENING.
AND IN A FEW MORE MEETINGS IN THE FUTURE, I ASK YOU TO STAND UP PLEASE.
AND MELANIE PARATA, THANK YOU FOR THANK Y'ALL.
AND BOTH OF THEM HAVE ASPIRATIONS OF GETTING INTO GOVERNMENT, POSSIBLY ATTORNEYS POSSIBLE, ALL TYPES OF THINGS, BUT THEY, UH, ARE TWO BRIGHT YOUNG LADIES, AND WE'RE HONORED TO HAVE YOU WITH US TONIGHT.
[3. MINUTES OF THE JUNE 17, 2024 MEETING]
THIS TIME WE'RE GONNA GO TO ITEM THREE.MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE JUNE 17TH, 2024 MEETING AS PUBLISHED.
COULD I GET A SECOND, MR. SHA SCHUL? I SECONDED.
ALL IN FAVOR? SHOW OF HANDS, PLEASE.
[4. PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS AND VISITORS FORUM]
THIS TIME WE'LL GO TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS AND VISITORS FORUM.WE DO, UH, HAVE TWO CARDS THAT WE RECEIVED IN ADVANCE OF THE 5:00 PM DEADLINE.
UM, MR. DREW ADAMS OF 1 0 1 BROOKWOOD DRIVE HAS SUBMITTED A CARD REGARDING LIGHTS AT COTTONWOOD PARK.
UM, AND, UH, MR. KANA HULA 35 51 WILSHIRE WAY, APARTMENT 61 53 HAS SUBMITTED A CARD, UH, REGARDING, UH, ZONING FILE 24 11 IN SUPPORT OF, UH, WE DO HAVE TWO SPEAKERS THAT I'M AWARE OF, ONE FOR, UH, UH, SPEAKERS DURING THE VISITORS FORUM, AND THEN ONE FOR, UH, DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING SO FAR.
SO LET ME READ THE INSTRUCTIONS, MAYOR, AND THEN WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO AMY TO CALL THE SPEAKERS.
UM, DURING THIS PORTION OF THE COUNCIL MEETING, 30 MINUTES IS ALLOCATED FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO PROVIDE COMMENTS TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON AGENDA ITEMS, PUBLIC HEARINGS.
IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM, PLEASE WAIT UNTIL THAT HEARING IS OPENED.
IF THERE'S TIME LEFT DURING THE INITIAL 30 MINUTES ALLOCATED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, THE REMAINING TIME WILL BE PROVIDED AS A VISITORS FORUM OPEN TO ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ANY TOPIC IN WHICH THE SUBJECT MATTER IS WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE CITY.
IF THE FULL 30 MAIL IS ALLOCATED FOR PUBLIC COMMENT IS REACHED, THEN SPEAKERS WHO HAVE SUBMITTED A PUBLIC COMMENT CARD MAY SPEAK AT THE VISITORS' FORUM SCHEDULED.
AT THE END OF THE MEETING, ALL SPEAKERS SHOULD COMPLETE A PUBLIC COMMENT CARD AND SUBMIT IT TO THE CITY SECRETARY BEFORE THE MEETING BEGINS, SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED IN AN ORDER THEY RECEIVED.
WHEN YOUR NAME IS CALLED, PLEASE STEP TO THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
ALL SPEAKERS WILL BE LIMITED TO A MAXIMUM OF FIVE MINUTES AS INDICATED BY THE TIMER.
WHEN THE TIMER BEEPS, THE SPEAKER SHOULD CONCLUDE THEIR COMMENTS PROMPTLY.
SPEAKERS MUST NOT PHYSICALLY APPROACH MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL OR STAFF AND SHOULD REMAIN AT THE PODIUM DURING THEIR COMMENTS.
SPEAKERS WITH HANDOUTS MUST PROVIDE THEM TO THE CITY SECRETARY FOR DISTRIBUTION SPEAKERS.
SUBMITTING COMMENTS ON THE SAME TOPIC ARE ENCOURAGED TO REDUCE REPETITIVE REMARKS BY INDICATING THEIR COMMENTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN ADDRESSED, OR BY SELECTING A REPRESENTATIVE SPEAKER, THE TEXAS OPEN MEETING ACT PROHIBITS THE CITY COUNCIL FROM DISCUSSING OR TAKING ACTION ON ITEMS THAT ARE NOT POSTED ON THE AGENDA.
CITY COUNCIL STAFF WILL NOT AFFIRM OR OPPOSE ANY SPEAKER, COMMENT OR QUESTION.
THE MAYOR, CITY MANAGER MAY RESPOND WITH FACTS OF POLICY OR DIRECT CITY STAFF TO RESPOND TO THE SPEAKER.
AFTER THE MEETING, THE AUDIENCE DOES ASK TO REFRAIN FROM APPLAUDING OR OTHER EXPRESSIONS OF SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION.
A COPY OF THE RULES, EXCUSE ME, A COPY OF
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THE COUNCIL RULES OF ORDER AND PROCEDURE.AND THESE GUIDELINES MAY BE FOUND ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE.
AT THIS TIME, I'D ALSO LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE TO SILENCE THEIR CELL PHONE, HEARING THE DURATION OF THE MEETING.
I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MS. NEER TO CALL OUR SPEAKERS.
WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER FOR VISITORS.
SAM, PLEASE COME FORWARD TO THE PODIUM.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
UM, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE BEEN SHARING SOMETHING WITH THE COUNCIL ADDRESS, PLEASE, I'M SORRY.
OH, ADDRESS, 6 0 4 MELROSE DRIVE.
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'M SHARING THE COUNCIL CITY.
I DON'T KNOW IF I PRONOUNCE IT RIGHT.
AND THEY HAVE A SMALL COMMENT.
UH, I WAS IMPRESSING SOMEBODY START LIKE WITH PRIOR, THIS WILL BLOW MY HEART WITH JOY.
THAT'S MEAN I'M EXPECTING FROM BOTH SIDES, FROM US AS A RESIDENT, FROM YOU HONESTY AND CLEAR AND NO SOMETHING WRONG.
IT HAS TO HIDE BEHIND THE SCENE.
SO I'M TRYING TO LIMIT EVERYTHING IN FIVE MINUTES.
SO BASICALLY, UH, I'M A DENTAL TECHNICIAN, WORK WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR OVER 30 YEARS IN DIFFERENT PLACES.
AND I GET IT OFF IN COVID 21 JUNE.
I APPLIED SINCE THAT TIME, OVER 200 JOBS IN MY, UH, SPECIALTIES, I THINK FOR THE CONCERN OF THE AGE PLUS OVER QUALIFY THIS CARE TO HIRE ME SMALL DENTAL LAB.
SO I WILL STRUGGLE A LITTLE BIT WITH MY BILLS.
PLUS IN THIS TIME, I HAVE TWO MAJOR, UH, ONE MAJOR CAR ACCIDENT CAUSED ME, UH, PARTIALLY DISABILITY.
PLUS I HAVE SOLDIER SURGERY, UH, I THINK ONE AND A HALF YEAR AGO.
SO EVEN THIS, I REFUSE TO APPLY FOR PARTIAL DISABILITY BECAUSE I WANT TO WORK.
I, I LOVE MY JOB AND I DON'T LIKE TO USE A SYSTEM EVEN IF AVAILABLE FOR ME TO USE A BENEFIT.
BUT WHAT'S HAPPENED WITH MY WATER BILL IN RICHTON CITY, UM, I HAVE SOME DIFFICULT TO PAY, AND MY HIGHEST BILLS GET TO $345.
I TRY TO CALL MS. KEISHA, MR. KENT, MS. SANDRA, WHICH I APPRECIATE THEM.
I'M NOT, I HAVE NOTHING WRONG TOWARD THEM.
AND, AND, AND BY THE WAY, GUYS, WE PRAY FOR EACH ONE.
GENTLEMAN, WE PRAY FOR EACH ONE OF YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE IN CHARGE.
AND THIS WAS SCRIPTURE TOLD US TO DO, BUT AT THE SAME TIMES, I DON'T APPRECIATE IT.
WHEN MS. SANDRA AND MS. KEISHA AND MR. KENT, THEY THREATENED ME TO SHUT DOWN THE WATER BECAUSE I CAN'T PAY THE MOST $50 FOR THIS BILL, SIR.
AND STATE 100, SHE WAS VERY DETERMINED.
IF I DON'T PAY $100 IN THIS WEATHER, SHE CANNOT SHUT DOWN THE WATER, TURN OFF THE WATER IN MY HOUSE.
I UNDERSTAND THERE IS A RULE, THERE IS A POLICY, BUT THERE IS A HUMAN BEHIND THIS.
I'M GONNA GIVE JUST EXAMPLE FOR WONDERFUL GUY.
HE, HE SENT A LETTER TO ME, LOOK HOW MUCH DIFFERENT.
HE SAYS, SAM, YOUR FENCE IN YOUR HOUSE FELL APART.
I SAID, MR. MICHAEL, RIGHT NOW, I HAVE TOUGH TIME TO BE PATIENT WITH ME IN TWO WEEKS.
HE SAY, MR. MICHAEL CALLED US.
THIS IS WORK IN THE CITY OF RICHARDSON.
HIS NAME MR. MICHAEL, I ADORE THIS GUY.
AND IN THE OTHER SIDE FOR BILL $354 BEFORE THE LAST BILL, I RECEIVE IT.
THIS IS BEFORE LIKE TWO WEEKS AGO.
I TRYING TO CONNECT MY OFFICE.
I TRIED TO CONNECT, UH, MANAGER CITY, I THINK CALL OFFICE.
I WISH IF I RECORD THE CONVERSATION, I'M SURE NOBODY APPRECIATE THE WAY SHE TALKED TO ME.
PRAY FOR YOU, HONOR YOU, RESPECT YOU, AND WE ARE HAPPY TO PAY OUR TAX.
HOPEFULLY THAT CAN HELP YOU FINANCIALLY AND PAY YOUR BILLS AS WELL.
BUT AT THE SAME TIMES, I'M REALLY NOT HAPPY FROM THE WAY THEY THREATEN SOMEBODY.
AND SOMETIMES MY DAUGHTER VISIT ME 12 YEARS OLD.
THEY, THEY THREATEN ME TO SHUT DOWN THE WATER BECAUSE I CAN OFFER $50 AND INSTEAD $100 IN THIS DIFFICULT, TOUGH TIME.
AND IN THE SAME TIMES, ATMOS AND ELECTRICITY COMPANY, THEY WERE MUCH MORE, MORE PATIENT, UNDERSTANDING, ABSORBING, AND HELP ME, ME IN MY TOUGH TIME.
THAT'S ALL WHAT I WANT TO SHARE ABOUT THIS.
[5. REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE MAY 28TH STORM DAMAGE RECOVERY EFFORTS AND DEBRIS REMOVAL SCHEDULE ]
GO TO ITEM FIVE, REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE MAY 28TH STORM DAMAGE RECOVERY EFFORTS[00:10:01]
AND DEBRIS REMOVAL SCHEDULE.UH, THE LAST TIME, UH, THE COUNCIL, UH, CONVENED FOR A MEETING, UM, WE PROVIDED AN UPDATE AND, UH, WITH THE TWO WEEK SUMMER BREAK, SAID THAT WE WOULD BE BACK TONIGHT TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON NOT ONLY THE PROGRESS WE'VE MADE FOR, UM, A COLLECTION, BUT HOPEFULLY PROVIDE AN UPDATED TIMELINE AS TO WHEN WE THOUGHT WE COULD BRING, UM, THIS, UH, RESPONSE TO A CONCLUSION.
UM, I'VE GOT, UH, THAT INFORMATION AND A COUPLE OF UPDATES, UM, POSITIVE NEWS RELATED TO, UH, POSSIBLE REIMBURSEMENT FROM FEMA.
SO LET ME GET STARTED, UH, BRIEFLY WITH THE, UH, PRESENTATION.
SO SINCE THE LAST TIME WE DID 20 DAYS HAVE PASSED, AND OVER THOSE 20 DAYS, WE'VE COLLECTED AN ADDITIONAL 105,000 CUBIC, UM, YARDS OF DEBRIS, UH, THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.
UM, THIS IS, UM, NOW PUTTING OUR ESTIMATE, UM, UM, FOR TOTAL COLLECTION AT ABOUT, UH, 250,000 CUBIC YARDS.
SO, UM, OUR ESTIMATE FROM THE ORIGINAL, UM, KIND OF SURVEY THAT, UM, OUR, UH, OUR, UH, COLLECTION CONTRACTOR CONDUCTED HAS INCREASED, UH, ABOUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND CUBIC YARDS, UM, BASED ON, UH, ACTUAL COLLECTIONS.
YOU CAN SEE HERE WE, WE ARE MAKING SOME VERY GOOD PROGRESS, UM, THIS WEEK, UH, WORKING IN THE, UH, KIND OF THE LIGHT BLUE AREAS.
UM, SEE ALL THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAVE BEEN CLEARED, UH, KIND OF IN THE GRAY AREA.
UM, SO, UH, JUST NOW DOWN TO, UH, THE RESERVATION, CANYON CREEK PORTIONS OF CANYON CREEK AND YALE PARK, UH, BERGNER PARK, AND THEN RICHLAND PARK, RICHLAND OAKS.
AND I'VE SEEN SOME GREAT, UH, UM, UM, ACTIVITY TODAY ON SOCIAL MEDIA FROM RESIDENTS AND NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO I KNOW OUR, I KNOW THE DEBRIS HAULER IS OUT AND, AND VERY ACTIVE.
THE GOOD NEWS IS, IS WE BELIEVE WE'LL BE ABLE TO COMPLETE THESE NEIGHBORHOODS AND THEREFORE COMPLETE THE FIRST ROUND OF COLLECTION BY THE END OF THIS WEEK.
SO SATURDAY OR SUNDAY OF THIS WEEK, THAT WILL ALLOW US TO MAKE A TRANSITION TO KIND OF OUR SECOND PHASE THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT'LL GO INTO EFFECTS, UH, EFFECT NEXT MONDAY, JULY 15TH.
UM, WE'LL CONTINUE TO, UM, COLLECT BRUSH USING OUR HAULER.
SO WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA DO A COMPLETE CANVAS OF THE CITY, AGAIN, LOOKING FOR VEGETATIVE DEBRIS STARTING ON THE 15TH.
WE ANTICIPATE THAT THAT'LL TAKE US ABOUT THREE WEEKS.
SO THAT'LL TAKE US THROUGH, UH, THAT FIRST LAST WEEK OF JULY.
FIRST WEEK OF AUGUST, ABOUT THE AUGUST 1ST OR SECOND OR SO.
UM, DURING THIS TIME, WE'LL ALSO RESUME OUR NORMAL COLLECTION OF ALL NON VEGITATIVE, UH, DEBRIS ITEMS USING OUR BABBIT CREWS.
AND SO RESIDENTS, UH, BEGINNING NEXT MONDAY CAN CALL AND SCHEDULE FOR THEIR NORMAL MONDAY, TUESDAY, THURSDAY, OR FRIDAY SERVICE.
AND OUR CREWS WILL BE OUT TO COLLECT ALL NON, UH, VEGETATIVE DEBRIS.
UH, AND AGAIN, THE HAULER OVER THE NEXT THREE WEEKS WILL, WILL CLEAR EVERYTHING THAT'S, UH, VEGETATIVE THAT'LL, UM, UM, KIND OF CULMINATE AND, AND ALLOW US TO, UM, UH, RETURN TO OUR NORMAL OPERATIONS FOR BO FOR BOTH BRUSH AND BULKY ITEM COLLECTION, USING ONLY OUR CITY CREWS, UH, CREWS ON APRIL THE FIFTH, UH, I'M SORRY, AUGUST THE FIFTH, EXCUSE ME.
UH, MONDAY, AUGUST THE FIFTH IS WHEN WE'LL RETURN TO, UM, REGULAR SERVICES.
AND SO, UM, WE, WE FEEL CONFIDENT THAT, THAT WE CAN GET THROUGH THIS SECOND PASS, UM, AND, UM, AND HIT THAT AUGUST 5TH DEADLINE.
AND SO WE'LL BEGIN, UM, SHARING THIS PUBLICLY AND, AND PROMOTING THIS, UM, UM, OPPORTUNITY FOR RESIDENTS TO START CALLING IN NEXT WEEK FOR, UH, THEIR BULK ITEMS. AND, UH, HAVING THOSE PICKED UP ON A, ON A REGULAR ROUTINE, UH, RATHER THAN THE WAY WE'VE BEEN HANDLING IT NOW.
UM, HAVING, AGAIN, THE DEBRIS, UM, ESTIMATE INCREASED BY ABOUT 50,000 CUBIC YARDS.
I WANTED TO SHARE, UM, THIS MAP OR THIS CHART WITH YOU.
PREVIOUSLY, WE HAD ESTIMATED THAT THE TOTAL COST OF THE RECOVERY WOULD BE ABOUT 2.8 TO $4 MILLION.
THAT'S INCREASED, UH, PREDOMINANTLY ON THE DEBRIS REMOVAL LINE, UM, GOING FROM 2.4 TO 3.4 TO 3.9 TO FOUR, UH, $0.5 MILLION.
UM, AS I MENTIONED, THERE IS GOOD NEWS.
UM, WE TALKED ABOUT THE, UH, FEMA, UH, REIMBURSEMENT THRESHOLDS PREVIOUSLY.
UH, THE STATE OF TEXAS HAS NOW, UH, ECLIPSED ITS, UH, THRESHOLD, UM, AS HAS DALLAS COUNTY, AND YOU CAN SEE DALLAS COUNTY NOW UP THAT 23.1 MILLION, WHERE THE THRESHOLD WAS JUST 12.
COLLIN COUNTY, WE'RE NOT GONNA, WE WE'RE LIKELY NOT GONNA GET THERE.
UM, THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, UM, IS CURRENTLY VALIDATING, UM, THE $23 MILLION.
THEY'VE ALREADY VALIDATED 14 MILLION, WHICH IS A GREAT SIGN BECAUSE EVEN IF EVERYTHING ELSE WAS, UH, NOT CONFIRMED, WE STILL ECLIPSE THE $12 MILLION.
WHAT THIS LIKELY SETS US UP FOR IS, UH, FEMA ADDING DALLAS COUNTY TO THE APPROVED PUBLIC ASSISTANCE GRANT, UM, UH, PROGRAM, WHICH WOULD BE A GREAT BENEFIT TO US, ALLOWING US TO RECOUP ABOUT 75% OF THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH THE RECOVERY IN, UM, THOSE, UH, CATEGORIES THAT APPROVED DEBRIS IS A CATEGORY IN AND OF ITSELF, AND IT WILL LIKELY BE ONE THAT IS, UH, INCLUDED.
UM, SO YOU CAN SEE HERE, EVEN IF WE WERE JUST ABLE TO CAPTURE, UH, 75% OF JUST THAT DEBRIS LINE ITEM, IT WOULD BE, UM, A GREAT NEWS STORY CONSIDERING WHERE WE WERE INITIALLY, UH, WITH THE REPORTING AND,
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AND WORKING TOWARDS THOSE THRESHOLDS AND, AND THINKING WE MIGHT NOT GET THERE.AND SO THIS IS, THIS IS VERY POSITIVE NEW FOR US.
WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH, UH, BOTH FEMA AND DALLAS COUNTY, AND WE'LL HAVE ADDITIONAL UPDATES FOR YOU AS SOON AS WE KNOW, UH, IF THE PUBLIC ASSISTANCE WILL BECOME AVAILABLE TO US.
I ALSO WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW, UM, AS, AS WE'VE DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY, UH, THIS, THE DIS, UM, DISASTER RECOVERY CENTER WAS DOPING AT THE NETWORK, UH, UM, CITY AND THE NETWORK PARTNERED TO GET FEMA THERE.
UH, FEMA HAS EXTENDED, UM, THE APPLICATION DEADLINE TO AUGUST 15TH FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES WHO MIGHT NEED ASSISTANCE.
SO THIS IS ANOTHER GREAT DEVELOPMENT, EVEN EVEN MORE TIME FOR FOLKS TO, TO, UH, PROVIDE THEIR INFORMATION.
AND THEN AGAIN, THE SBA CONTINUES, UH, TO WORK OUT OF THE NETWORK JUST AS A, UH, JUST AS A KIND OF A MEASURE OF ACTIVITY.
AND, AND I THINK IS TO HELP TELL THE STORY.
WE PUT TOGETHER THESE LAST TWO SLIDES.
UM, IT'S A JUST A GREAT TESTAMENT, NOT NOT ONLY TO THE CITY, BUT TO ALL OF OUR PARTNERS AND HOW WE WORK TOGETHER.
UM, THESE, UH, FIRST, UH, SEVEN OR SO WEEKS SINCE THE STORM, BUT OVER 107 FAMILIES THAT WERE IMPACTED BY THE STORM, UH, STORM WHERE IT RECEIVED GROCERIES FROM THE NETWORK, UH, 210 FAMILIES, UM, UH, ALSO ACCESS FOOD THROUGH THE MOBILE, UH, MARKET, UH, OVER 300 SNACK SNACK PACKS DELIVERED, UM, UM, FROM THE SHELTER AND IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND THEN AS WE TALKED OVER 1200 MEALS, 173 FAMILIES, UH, WERE RECEIVED, UM, DIRECT DISASTER RELIEF SERVICES AT THE NETWORK.
UM, 63 FAMILIES, UH, WERE, WERE, UH, HELPED BY THE, THE MINUTE MEN WHO WERE THE VOLUNTEERS.
THEY GO OUT AND HELP WITH THE DEBRIS, UH, REMOVAL AND, AND, UH, TREE CUTTING 40, UH, FAMILIES YOU SEE HERE.
UM, UM, RECEIVED, UH, FENCE, UH, UH, UM, HELP, UH, VOLUNTEER ASSISTANCE REPAIRING THINGS LIKE FENCE AND SIDING AND, AND OTHER, UM, UH, UH, THINGS, UM, FROM THE, UH, FIRST RICHARDSON HELPERS, UH, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE, UH, HAD SEVEN OR 11 FAMILIES THAT WE PROVIDED THAT INITIAL, UM, HOTEL ROOMS FOR THAT, UH, WERE PREDOMINANTLY HAVE MULTIFAMILY SETTING, AND THEN EVEN MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES PROVIDED.
AND, UH, STILL THE NETWORK WORKING WITH 11 FAMILIES TO ENSURE THAT THE CONTINUATION OF, UH, KIND OF THEIR WRAPAROUND SERVICES THAT WE'RE PROVIDING TO, TO, UH, RESIDENTS THAT WERE IMPACTED BY THIS STORM, UH, ARE, ARE SUCCESSFUL.
AND SO, UM, JUST A SUPER STORY, UM, THAT, UM, I THINK REALLY, UH, GOES A LONG WAY.
SHE'S NOT HERE TONIGHT, BUT I DO WANNA RECOGNIZE ALICIA GIMBAL.
UM, YOU DON'T RESPOND TO A, A STORM LIKE THIS OR ANY NATURAL DISASTER EFFECTIVELY, UNLESS YOU HAVE REALLY GOOD PLANS IN PLACE, AND YOU TEST THOSE PLANS AND YOU PRACTICE THOSE PLANS.
AND, UH, WE'RE REALLY FORTUNATE TO HAVE A, A GREAT EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, UH, DIRECTOR AND DEPARTMENT, AS WELL AS OUR POLICE AND FIRE AND CODE AND, UH, COMMUNITY SERVICES, UH, HEALTH.
EVERYBODY REALLY TAKES THIS SERIOUS.
AND SO WHEN WE HAVE TO ACTIVATE LIKE THIS, WE'RE PREPARED TO TO DO SO.
AND SO, MAYOR, I APPRECIATE THE CHANCE TO, TO GIVE AN UPDATE.
WE'LL START RAISING AWARENESS ABOUT THE TIMELINE THAT I SHARED WITH YOU FOR PHASE TWO AND THE RETURN TO NORMAL, UH, BABIC SERVICES TOMORROW.
AWESOME, DON, GREAT PRESENTATIONS.
COUNSEL, ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR DON? OKAY, AWESOME.
UM, I'D LIKE TO ADD ONE THING, IF I COULD AT THIS TIME TO CLARIFY.
I MADE A, I THINK IS A, UM, ANNOUNCEMENT THAT IS REALLY EXCITING.
UM, AT THE 4TH OF JULY CELEBRATION COUNCIL HAS, UM, DIRECTED STAFF TO KIND OF CONTINUE TO LOOK AT OUR, UH, TREE PRESERVATION BACK IN MAY.
BEFORE THE, UH, STORMS HIT, WE HAD ALREADY APPROVED A PLAN THAT WORKED ON TREE PRESERVATION IN OUR CITY AND SOME THINGS THAT WE WERE DOING AND IMPLEMENTING GUIDELINES AND RULES AND SO FORTH.
SO WITH THAT, HAVING BEEN SAID, WE ASKED COUN, STAFF HAS ASKED, COUNCIL HAS ASKED STAFF, WHAT CAN WE DO TO IMPLEMENT A LITTLE BIT MORE? AND THE WAY WE WERE LOOKING AT THIS, NO FINAL PLAN HAS COME TOGETHER, BUT WE'RE ASKING STAFF TO TRY TO LOOK AT A BUDGET, FIND A WAY THAT WE CAN HELP BASICALLY REPLANT THE CITY OF RICHARDSON, REBUILD THAT INVENTORY OF TREES, WHETHER IT'S IN OUR PARKS OR, UM, PARKWAYS AND EVEN HELP RESIDENTS WITH THAT SOLUTION.
A PLAN WILL HOPEFULLY BE ANNOUNCED IN THE NEAR FUTURE, AND WE APPRECIATE THE CITIZENS' PATIENCE AND UNDERSTANDING OF THE PROCESS, AND AS THEY LOOK AT THE MAGNITUDE OF THIS STORM AND HOW MUCH GREATER IT WAS THAN EVEN WITH THE 2019 TORNADO.
[6. REVIEW AND DISCUSS AN AWARENESS CAMPAIGN FOCUSED ON ENHANCING THE CURB APPEAL OF RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES ]
LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER SIX, REVIEW AND DISCUSS AN AWARENESS CAMPAIGN FOCUSED ON ENHANCING THE CURB APPEAL OF RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.MAYOR AND, UH, COUNCIL, WE CONTINUE TO MAKE GREAT PROGRESS ON THE, UH, GOALS AND TACTICS THAT YOU SET OUT FOR THIS TERM.
UM, REALLY HAPPY TO HAVE LINDSEY TERM, OUR, UH, COMMUNITY SERVICES ADMINISTRATOR
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AND KIM NEWSOM, I'M SORRY, NEWCOMER, UM, WITH SLATE COMMUNICATIONS, UH, HERE TO KIND OF, UH, CO-PRESENT.LINDSAY'S GONNA KIND OF BOOKEND THE PRESENTATION, TALKING ABOUT THE PURPOSE AND THE GOAL OF, UH, THIS TACTIC.
AND THEN KIM IS GONNA SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, UH, BRANDING AND CAMPAIGN THAT WAS DESIGNED.
AND THEN REALLY EXCITED TO HAVE LINDSAY CONCLUDE, UM, TALKING ABOUT A, A PROGRAM WE'D LIKE TO LAUNCH WITH OUR, UH, AGAIN, LEVERAGING EVEN FURTHER OUR NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS AND, UH, PUTTING SOME OF THIS IMPORTANT WORK ABOUT NEIGHBORHOOD INTEGRITY IN THE HANDS OF, UH, OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATIONS.
SO, LINDSAY, THANKS TO YOU AND KIM AND DANETTE FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE DONE TO GET US HERE TONIGHT.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
I, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TONIGHT.
UH, ALSO A BIG THANK YOU TO OUR CITY MANAGEMENT TEAM FOR THEIR SUPPORT DURING THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PRESENTATION, PARTICULARLY TO DANETTE FOR HER ENCOURAGEMENT.
SO, WE'RE HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE IN YOUR 20 23, 20 25 GOALS, ONE OF THE THINGS YOU SET OUT FOR US WAS TO CREATE AN EDUCATIONAL WORKSHOP SERIES AND NEIGHBORHOOD AWARENESS CAMPAIGN FOCUSED ON ENHANCING OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
SO THE PURPOSE OF THE PRESENTATION TONIGHT IS TO OUTLINE THE SCOPE OF CODE ENFORCEMENT.
I WANNA GIVE YOU A GOOD BACKGROUND IN UNDERSTANDING WHAT CODE ENFORCEMENT CAN DO AND WHAT THE LIMITATIONS OF CODE ENFORCEMENT ARE.
AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE'RE GONNA PROPOSE A PROGRAM THAT HELPS TO FILL THAT GAP BETWEEN WHAT IS CODIFIED AND WHAT IS NOT.
I INCLUDED THIS SLIDE, IT'S JUST PART OF THE MISSION STATEMENT FOR COMMUNITY SERVICES THAT FOCUSES ON CODE ENFORCEMENT, BECAUSE THE THING I WANNA HIGHLIGHT HERE TONIGHT IS CODE IS ABOUT MAINTAINING THINGS IN A SAFE AND HEALTHY MANNER.
SO I REALLY WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT TONIGHT.
AND BEFORE I GET INTO THE SPECIFICS ABOUT DIFF OUR DIFFERENT CODES, I WANTED TO REITERATE AND REMIND YOU THAT OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS ARE ASSIGNED GEOGRAPHICAL AREAS, AND THEY DRIVE EVERY STREET AND ALLEY EVERY MONTH IN THE CITY OF RICHARDSON, THE, THE ENTIRE CITY.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE SOMEONE ON STAFF SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.
SO WE RESPOND TO COMPLAINTS WITHIN 24 HOURS, JUST AS A REMINDER.
SO WHAT I'M GONNA DO NOW IS JUST GO THROUGH SOME OF OUR MAJOR VIOLATION TYPES AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT WHAT CODE CAN DO AND WHAT CODE CAN'T DO.
WE'RE GONNA START OUT WITH VEGETATION.
IT'S, MANY PEOPLE THINK THAT WE ARE JUST IN THE BUSINESS OF SENDING HIGH GRASS AND WEED NOTICES, BUT THAT IS ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE.
WE SEND MORE VEGETATION NOTICES, FAR MORE VEGETATION NOTICES THAN ANY OTHER TYPE OF NOTICE THAT WE SEND.
SO THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT WE CAN ADDRESS ARE VEGETATION THAT IS IMPEDING A PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY IN ANY WAY.
SO OVER THE STREET OR ALLEY OR OVER THE SIDEWALK, UH, VEGETATION THAT PERHAPS MIGHT CAUSE A VISIBILITY, OBSTRUCTION, DEAD VEGETATION, VEGETATION THAT MAY BE IMPEDING ON A ROOF OR FASCIA OR SOFFIT THAT COULD POTENTIALLY CAUSE DAMAGE TO THE PROPERTY.
AND, UH, THINGS WE CAN'T ADDRESS WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT ARE JUST THE GENERAL AESTHETICS OF YARDS.
WHILE IT JUST DOESN'T LOOK GOOD, THE TREES AND BUSHES ARE NOT TRIMMED IN THE WAY THAT I ENVISION THEM TO BE TRIMMED.
UM, THE AMOUNT AND TYPES OF VEGETATION ARE NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN REGULATE EITHER.
SO I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE BEST AND EASIEST TO SHOW YOU EXAMPLES OF THE THINGS WE CAN ADDRESS AND THE THINGS THAT WE CANNOT ADDRESS.
SO THE TOP ROW ARE ACTUALLY ALL THREE THINGS THAT WE CANNOT ADDRESS.
THERE IS NO CODE VIOLATION IN THESE THREE PHOTOS.
THE, THE FIRST PHOTO IS A PHOTO OF A, A VEGETABLE GARDEN IN A FRONT YARD, WHICH IS ACTUALLY BECOMING MORE COMMON.
SO AS LONG AS THOSE THINGS AREN'T CAUSING VISIBILITY OBSTRUCTIONS OR, OR HAVE ANY OF THE OTHER VIOLATIONS THAT I MENTIONED, THEN THEY'RE TOTALLY FINE THAT THAT'S WITHIN THEIR RIGHT AS A HOMEOWNER WITHIN THE CODE.
THE SECOND PICTURE IS A LITTLE BIT DECEIVING BECAUSE OF THE ANGLE.
IT LOOKS LIKE YOU DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THE FRONT DOOR, BUT YOU DO HAVE, THERE IS ACCESS TO THE FRONT DOOR.
UH, IT ALSO LOOKS, APPEARS THAT YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE ACCESS TO WINDOWS FOR PROPER INGRESS AND EGRESS.
THIS PROPERTY OWNER TRIMS BETWEEN THE VEGETATION AND THE HOUSE TO ENSURE THAT YOU CAN GET IN AND OUT.
A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THEIR CO WITH OUR CODES, AND THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHAT HAS TO BE DONE.
THAT LAST PICTURE ON THE TOP ROW, WE RECEIVE A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT.
IF YOU'LL LOOK AT THE BASE OF THAT TREE, THERE ARE A LOT OF SAPLINGS.
UH, WE CAN'T DICTATE WHAT TYPE OF VEGETATION.
WE CAN'T REQUIRE THAT PROPERTY OWNER TO REMOVE THOSE SAPLINGS BECAUSE IT'S NOT IMPEDING UP ANY RIGHT OF WAY.
IT'S, IT'S NOT A HAZARD IN ANY WAY.
THE BOTTOM ROW ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN ADDRESS WITH CODE.
AGAIN, I MENTIONED ANYTHING THAT'S IMPEDING A, A PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.
SO THE, THE SIDEWALK, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT OUR CITIZENS CAN BIKE AND WALK ON THE SIDEWALK WITHOUT EVER FEARING BEING INJURED.
THE SECOND PICTURE IS OF AN ALLEY EASEMENT.
ALL VEGETATION HAS TO BE 14 FEET OVER THE ALLEY EASEMENT AND THE STREET BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR EMERGENCY VEHICLES
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AND OUR SOLID WASTE VEHICLES HAVE SAFE PASSAGE WHEREVER THEY MAY BE, MAY BE GOING.AND EVEN MORE IMPORTANTLY, IN THE BACK WHERE OUR SOLID WASTE SKIES GET ON AND OFF TRUCKS, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT IN A HAZARD IN A HAZARDOUS SITUATION BECAUSE OF VEGETATION.
THAT LAST PHOTO ON THIS SLIDE IS DEAD VEGETATION.
WE WANT THINGS LIKE THIS TO BE REMOVED BECAUSE IF IT FELL, IT COULD FELL AND CAUSE PROPERTY DAMAGE, IT COULD CAUSE DAMAGE TO A PERSON.
SO THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR WHEN WE LOOK AT VEGETATION.
NEXT, I AM GONNA TALK ABOUT HIGH GRESS AND WEEDS.
WE CANNOT SEND A HIGH GRASS IN WEEDS NOTICE UNTIL THE GRASS IS 12 INCHES.
IF SOMEONE CALLS AND COMPLAINS AND SAID, THE GRASS IS NINE INCHES, AND YEAH, IT LOOKS A LITTLE TALL, WE CANNOT SEND A NOTICE UNTIL THE GRASS IS 12 INCHES TALL.
SO CONVERSELY, UH, THE OTHER THINGS THAT PEOPLE COMPLAIN ABOUT WITH GRASS IN PARTICULAR IS EDGING.
UNLESS THE EDGING IS GONNA CAUSE A TRIP HAZARD, UNLESS IT'S THAT BAD, WE CAN'T REQUIRE SOMEONE JUST TO EDGE AROUND A CURB BECAUSE OF AESTHETICS.
THERE ARE A LOT OF REALLY LARGE TREES IN THE CITY, AND IT'S HARD FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE TO GROW GRASS UNDER THE TREES.
CONVERSELY, WHEN ABOUT THIS TIME OF HERE YEAR HITS IN JULY AND AUGUST, IT GETS REALLY HOT, AND THAT CAN CAUSE BEAR SPOTS.
I MEAN, IT'S HARD TO MAINTAIN GRASS WHEN THE WEATHER IS SO BRUTAL.
AND JUST COMPLAINTS ABOUT GENERALLY UN MANICURED YARDS.
THE BARE SPOTS, UH, THE BOTTOM PHOTO THERE IS JUST GRASS.
THE TOP PHOTO IS OF COURSE, A VIOLATION.
WE DO TYPICALLY ADDRESS HIGH GRASS AND WEEDS BEFORE IT GETS THAT TALL.
BUT IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, PARTICULARLY WITH THE, IT'S VERY DEPENDENT ON THE WEATHER.
BUT THIS YEAR, IT'S LIKE SPRING STARTED IN FEBRUARY, AND IT WAS A PERFECT CONDITION FOR GRASS TO GROW FROM FEBRUARY AND UNTIL MAY.
SO IN THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES, AGAIN, WE'RE DRIVING EVERY MONTH AND WE ADDRESS THESE ISSUES AS AS THEY ARISE.
UH, SO MINIMUM PROPERTY STANDARDS, WE DEAL A LOT WITH MIN MINIMUM PROPERTY STANDARDS ISSUE.
OUR PHILOSOPHY HAS ALWAYS BEEN THAT WE WANT TO ADDRESS SOMETHING WHEN IT'S A SMALLER ISSUE RATHER THAN A LARGER ISSUE, SO THAT IT DOESN'T GET OUT OF CONTROL.
AND SO THAT IT'S EASIER FOR A HOMEOWNER TO ABATE.
IT'S EASIER TO DEAL WITH A SMALLER ISSUE THAN A LARGER ISSUE.
THE TYPES OF ISSUES THAT WE CAN DEAL WITH VIA CODE, UM, CHIPPING OR MISSING PAINT BECAUSE WE WANT SURFACE TO, TO BE PROTECTED.
SO IF, IF THERE'S MISSING PAINT, THEN THERE'S POTENTIAL TO CAUSE, UM, TO CAUSE ROT.
AND WE DON'T WANT THAT ROOF DAMAGE MISSING OR DAMAGED SOFFITS OR FASCIA.
BROKEN WINDOWS, HOLES IN THE EXTERIOR SURFACES.
THOSE ARE GENERALLY THE MOST COMMON TYPES OF MINIMUM PROPERTY STANDARDS THAT WE SEE.
WE CANNOT REGULATE THE COLOR THAT YOU WANT TO PAINT YOUR HOUSE.
WE ALSO CAN'T REGULATE IF YOUR PAINT IS FADING.
WHILE IT MIGHT NOT BE AESTHETICALLY PLEASING, IT'S STILL PROTECTING THE PROPERTY.
IT'S PROTECTING THE OUTSIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
WE SOMETIMES GET COMPLAINTS ABOUT INTERIOR WINDOW COVERINGS.
SO THE TOP ROW SH AGAIN, SHOWS THE THINGS THAT WE CANNOT ADDRESS.
THAT FIRST PHOTO IS FADING PAINT.
THERE'S NO CODE VIOLATION THERE.
THE SECOND IS FOIL IN THE WINDOW.
AND WHILE IT MIGHT NOT BE THE MOST BEAUTIFUL THING, WE CAN'T ADDRESS THAT.
THE LAST PHOTO IS VERY BRIGHTLY COLORED HOUSE, UH, WHICH WE CAN'T ADDRESS.
THE BOTTOM ARE THE BOTTOM ROW ARE THINGS WE CAN'T ADDRESS THAT, THAT VERY FIRST PHOTO.
IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT HARD TO SEE, BUT THE SOFFIT UNDERNEATH THERE IS, THERE'S PAINT MISSING FROM THAT.
AND WHILE IT'S HARD TO SEE IN THE PHOTO, THE FASCIA ALSO HAS SOME CHIPPING AND PEELING PAINT.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WILL ADDRESS ANY ROOF DAMAGE, ANY MISSING OR DAMAGED WINDOWS LIKE THE NEXT TWO PHOTOS.
WHAT CAN WE DO WITH FENCES? WE CAN ADDRESS ANY MISSING OR DETACHED SECTIONS AND OR SLATS IN FENCES.
WE CAN ADDRESS THE VERTICAL ALIGNMENT OF A FENCE.
UH, IF IT'S MORE THAN 20% OUT OF ALIGNMENT, 20% IS MORE THAN YOU THINK WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE ALIGNMENT OF A FENCE.
UH, THE USE OF EXTERIOR SUPPORTS, OF COURSE, ALL GATES HAVE TO BE SELF-CLOSING AND SELF LATCHING AROUND POOLS.
AND WE CAN REGULATE THE TYPE OF MATERIALS THAT ARE USED WITH FENCE REPAIR.
WE CANNOT REGULATE THE COLOR OR THE STAIN OF A FENCE.
WE CAN'T REGULATE THE GENERAL AGE.
WELL, THIS FENCE IS OLD, IT DOESN'T LOOK GOOD.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THERE'S A CODE VIOLATION, UM, OR THE DESIGN TYPE OF OFFENSE.
THE TOP ROW HERE ARE THINGS THAT WE CANNOT ADDRESS.
AGAIN, COLORS, UH, WE GET A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT FENCES THAT LOOK LIKE THE MIDDLE PICTURE ON THE TOP ROW.
WHEN YOU REPAIR A FENCE THAT'S OLDER, IT, THERE'S GONNA BE A STRIKING DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE EXISTING FENCE THAT'S STILL IN COMPLIANCE WITH NEW MATERIALS.
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SEEN THIS COME UP MORE OFTEN.PEOPLE ARE DECIDING TO ADD DESIGNS TO THEIR FENCE.
UH, COLORFUL DESIGNS ON THE BOTTOM ROW ARE THE THINGS WE CAN ADDRESS.
EXTERIOR SUPPORTS OF THE FENCE.
THE SECOND PHOTO HAS A DETACHED SECTION AND A DETACHED.
UM, IT HAS A DETACH DETACHED SECTION.
AND THEN THAT LAST PHOTO IS ALSO MISSING A, A SECTION, MISSING A PICKET, AND HAS MATERIAL THOSE, THE PLYWOOD IS MATERIAL THAT IS NOT APPROVED FOR A FENCE.
SO WHAT CAN WE DO WITH OPEN STORAGE? OPEN STORAGE IS DEFINED IN OUR CODE AS THINGS THAT ARE NOT CUSTOMARILY STORED OUTSIDE THAT REMAIN IN THE SAME PLACE FOR A PERIOD OF 24 HOURS, FOR EXAMPLE, IN THAT PHOTO.
INDOOR FURNITURE BOXES, JUST THINGS THAT CANNOT BE STORED OUTSIDE WITHOUT BEING IMPACTED BY THE WEATHER.
UH, CONVERSELY THOUGH, WE, WE GET A LOT OF COMPLAINTS IF PARENTS GET BUSY AND LEAVE TOYS IN THE YARD THAT ARE MEANT TO BE OUTSIDE THEIR LITTLE CARS AND THEIR BIKES AND POOLS.
THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GONNA, WE CAN ADDRESS VIA OUR OPEN STORAGE, UM, CODES.
SO THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE ADDRESS IN CODE ENFORCEMENT, WE ADDRESS TRASH AND DEBRIS LIKE TRASH OUT EARLY OR STREWN LITTER.
WE ALSO ADDRESS VEHICLE VIOLATIONS, JUNK VEHICLES, OVERSIZED VEHICLES.
WE HAVE ORDINANCES ABOUT TRAILER AND RV PARKING.
WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE ABOUT YARD PARKING.
ONE THING I WILL MENTION ABOUT VEHICLES IS WE GET A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF CARS PARKED AT PROPERTIES.
IF THE CARS ARE NOT JUNK VEHICLES, THEN WE CANNOT REGULATE THE AMOUNT OF CARS THAT ARE PARKED AT A PROPERTY AS LONG AS THEY'RE ALL LEGALLY PARKED.
IF THEY'RE NOT PARKED IN THE YARD OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THEN THEY'RE ABSOLUTELY LEGAL AND THEY'RE ALLOWED TO BE THERE.
UM, ADDRESS NUMBERING IS SOMETHING ELSE WE, WE WANT TO ENFORCE AND WE DO BECAUSE WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE POLICE OR FIRE DEPARTMENT CAN FIND YOU AT THE FRONT OR THE BACK OF YOUR HOUSE IN THE CASE OF AN EMERGENCY.
UH, AND EVERYTHING I MENTIONED UP TO THIS POINT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN PHYSICALLY SEE WITH OUR EYES AUTOMATICALLY WHEN WE'RE DRIVING UP OR DOWN THE STREET OR ALLEY.
WE SEE IT AND WE CAN ADDRESS IT, BUT WE DO HAVE OTHER VIOLATIONS LIKE HOME BUSINESSES OR POTENTIALLY TOO MANY PEOPLE LIVING IN A HOUSEHOLD WHERE WE HAVE TO LAUNCH INVESTIGATIONS.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE CAN JUST LOOK AT AND DETERMINE AND MOVE ON.
SO SOME OF THE THINGS WE ADDRESS TAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME.
SO THAT'S THE BASICS OF CODE ENFORCEMENT.
AND I REALLY WANTED, JUST TO REMIND YOU, I KNOW IT'S BEEN A WHILE AND SOME OF YOU HAVE MAYBE NEVER HEARD OF EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN DO WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT, BUT IT JUST GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE CAN AND CANNOT DO, AND SORT OF GEARS US UP FOR THE REST OF THE PRESENTATION, WHICH IS A WONDERFUL POSITIVE TAKE, WHICH, UH, POSITIVE THINGS AND CODE ENFORCEMENT AREN'T ALWAYS TIED TOGETHER.
SO THIS IS A, A REALLY EXCITING THING.
I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO KIM.
THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL FOR LETTING ME POP IN HERE QUICKLY AND TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR CAMPAIGN.
SO YOU JUST HEARD FROM LINDSAY ABOUT, UM, ENFORCEMENT, RIGHT? THERE'S THIS GAP, THOUGH, BETWEEN WHAT WE CAN ENFORCE AND MAYBE JUST SOME COMMUNITY NORMS AND I AND IDEAS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
SO, UM, THIS GROUP REACHED OUT TO US, MY FIRM OR A MARKETING COMMUNICATIONS FIRM.
WE WORK EXCLUSIVELY WITH LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AND SAID, HEY, CAN WE COME UP WITH A POSITIVE WAY TO REALLY ADDRESS THIS GAP? AND ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE WANNA DO IS CREATE A CAMPAIGN TO ENCOURAGE RESIDENTS TO JUST TAKE BETTER CARE OF THEIR PROPERTIES TO MAKE 'EM A LITTLE BIT MORE APPEALING, RIGHT? YES, IT'S ABOUT SAFETY, BUT IT'S ALSO ABOUT HOW IT LOOKS.
AND THE OTHER PART OF THIS IS WE WANNA CONTINUE TO STRESS NOT ONLY BASIC, UM, MAINTENANCE, BUT WE ALSO WANNA LOOK AT SOME OF THE EFFICIENCY PROGRAMS. SOME OF THE BEHAVIORS THAT WE'RE ENCOURAGING ARE ACTUALLY BENEFICIAL FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT REASONS.
AND SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE TO TIE THAT INTO THE PROGRAM AS WELL.
NOW, I WILL SAY, BEFORE WE CAME UP WITH THESE CONCEPTS, UM, OUR WHOLE TEAM WENT BACK AND LISTENED TO SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT YOU HAD ABOUT THIS EXACT ISSUE, AND REALLY WANTED TO TRY AND FIND A WAY FOR US TO TARGET THE RIGHT AUDIENCES AND ALSO MAKE THIS ABOUT THE COMMUNITY ITSELF, NOT JUST ABOUT WHAT THE CITY WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
SO WE, WE JUST WANTED TO GET A LITTLE BIT CLEARER ON THAT.
UM, THIS CAMPAIGN IS FOR EVERYBODY, RIGHT? THIS IS FOR THE ENTIRE CITY OF RICHARDSON.
ALL OF THESE HOMEOWNERS WHO MAYBE DON'T UNDERSTAND THE VALUE OF CURB APPEAL, UM, AND CERTAINLY MAYBE HAVEN'T RECOGNIZED AS A COMMUNITY STANDARD.
I THINK THE OTHER PEOPLE WE'RE TRYING TO REACH ARE JUST HOMEOWNERS THAT JUST MAYBE HAVE A DIFFERENT UNDERSTANDING OF, UM, WHAT IT MEANS TO LIVE IN THIS TYPE OF COMMUNITY.
YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE'S A DIFFERENT, UH, AN UNAWARENESS OF SOME OF THE MAINTENANCE AND HOME EFFICIENCIES THAT WE CAN PROVIDE AS A COMMUNITY.
AND SO, REALLY THIS IS ABOUT EDUCATION AND AWARENESS MORE THAN ENFORCEMENT.
SO WHAT WE WANTED TO DO IS CREATE A CAMPAIGN THAT REALLY FOCUSED ON THOSE IDEALS.
UM, HOME SUITE HOME IS THE CAMPAIGN NAME, AND THE TAGLINE IS, MAKE IT BEAUTIFUL.
MAKE IT YOU MAKE IT RICHARDSON.
AND WHAT WE WANTED TO DO HERE IS REALLY, AGAIN, FOCUS ON THAT AESTHETIC PIECE.
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WANT PEOPLE TO HAVE PRIDE IN THEIR HOUSE AND MAKE IT BEAUTIFUL AND REALLY WANNA SHOW IT OFF.WE ALSO WANT THEM TO MAKE IT THEIRS, RIGHT? SO, UM, IT'S AN ACCOMPLISHMENT TO OWN A HOME THESE DAYS, AND PEOPLE SHOULD TAKE PRIDE IN THAT AND THEY SHOULD MAKE IT UNIQUE TO THEMSELVES.
AND WE WANNA ENCOURAGE THAT AND NOT TAKE THAT AWAY.
AND THEN FINALLY MAKE IT RICHARDSON.
THIS AGAIN, IS ABOUT COMMUNITY.
IT'S ABOUT HOW DO WE EMPOWER OUR NEIGHBORS AND OUR RESIDENTS TO MAKE THEIR COMMUNITIES WHAT THEY WANT IT TO BE? AND SO I WANT TO SHARE SOME EXAMPLES BECAUSE I THINK IT'S WAY MORE FUN TO LOOK AT EXAMPLES THAN LISTEN TO ME TALK.
SO HERE IS JUST A QUICK VISUAL OF A POTENTIAL DOOR HANGER.
AND WHAT YOU CAN SEE HERE IS IT'S VERY FRIENDLY, IT'S VERY SIMPLE, AND IT'S REALLY DESIGNED TO PULL PEOPLE IN.
UM, RELYING ON THIS IDEA OF COMMUNITY.
HOW DO WE WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AS BEAUTIFUL AS POSSIBLE? AND THEN WE CAN ADDRESS SOME OF THE SPECIFIC ISSUES THAT LINDSAY WAS TALKING ABOUT.
OF COURSE, THIS IS NOT JUST GOING TO LIVE ON DOOR HANGERS.
WHAT WE WANNA DO IS CREATE A COMPREHENSIVE TOOLKIT FOR HOAS OR COMMUNITY MEMBERS OR RESIDENTS TO USE AND ACTUALLY SPREAD THE WORD.
SO THIS WILL TRANSLATE INTO, UH, NEWSLETTERS, RIGHT? WE'LL BE ADDING THIS TO SOME OF THE CITY'S ONGOING COMMUNICATION TOOLS.
AND WE'LL ALSO BE PUTTING, UM, ITEMS UP ON A DIGITAL PLATFORM.
SO WE'LL BE CREATING A SPACE ON THE CITY WEBSITE, AND THEN OF COURSE, USING SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS, NOT ONLY THE CITY'S SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS, BUT ACTUALLY PROVIDING THOSE ASSETS FOR OTHERS TO USE AS WELL.
AND THAT'S THE WHOLE IDEA BEHIND THIS.
HOW DO WE EMPOWER COMMUNITIES, RESIDENTS, NEIGHBORS, TO ACTUALLY SHARE SOME OF THIS MESSAGING WITH EACH OTHER, RIGHT? SO WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO IS CREATE AN, AN IMPLEMENTATION TOOLKIT, MAKES IT SOUND VERY OFFICIAL, BUT REALLY WE WANNA PROVIDE SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS, POSTCARDS, WEBSITE GRAPHICS, UM, MAYBE EVEN SOME SHORT VIDEOS THAT NOT ONLY THE CITY CAN SHARE, BUT OTHERS CAN SHARE AS WELL, AND ENCOURAGE THIS IDEA OF HOW DO WE MAKE OUR COMMUNITY THE BEST IT CAN BE TOGETHER? GREAT.
SO WITH ALL OF THAT BACKGROUND ABOUT CODE ENFORCEMENT AND THEN UNDERSTANDING THE ELEMENTS OF THE HOME SUITE HOME CAMPAIGN, WE WANNA TALK ABOUT THE STEPS AND HOW WE WANT TO IMPLEMENT THOSE THINGS.
SO WE ARE PROPOSING A NEW PROGRAM CALLED THE NEIGHBORHOOD AMBASSADOR PROGRAM.
THE GOAL OF THE PROGRAM IS TO ADDRESS CITIZEN CONCERNS THAT ARE NOT CODE VIOLATIONS, AND HOW ARE WE GONNA DO THIS? SO WE ARE PROPOSING THAT CITY STAFF WILL PARTNER WITH NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOMEOWNER, HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATIONS TO EDUCATE AND EQUIP THE AMBASSADORS WITH THE INFORMATION THAT THEY NEED TO GO OUT AND ADDRESS THE CONCERNS THAT THEY HAVE.
SO THE TYPES OF TRAINING WE PLAN ON PROVIDING ARE AN UNDERSTANDING OF CODE ENFORCEMENT.
LIKE WE JUST DID AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT CODE CAN DO AND WHAT CODE CAN DO.
OF COURSE, IF PEOPLE ARE GONNA GO OUT INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WE WANT THEM TO FEEL SAFE.
SO PART OF OUR TRAINING WILL INCLUDE SAFETY, AND OF COURSE, WE ALSO WANT THEM TO FEEL LIKE THEY CAN COMMUNICATE EFFECTIVELY.
SO THOSE ARE THE THREE TIERS AND TYPES OF, UM, TRAINING THAT WE PLAN ON HAVING.
UH, IN ADDITION, THE NEIGHBORHOOD INVESTOR PROGRAM, EVERYONE THAT TAKES PART WILL HAVE TOOLS PROVIDED TO THEM.
UM, AS MENTIONED IN THE TOOLKIT, ONE PART, ONE TOOLKIT WILL BE VIRTUAL.
SO ALL OF THOSE, THE THINGS THAT KIM MENTIONED, LIKE SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS, OR IF YOU WANT AN ARTICLE TO POP INTO THEIR NEWSLETTERS, IT THEY CAN JUST HOP ON A WEBSITE, GRAB THE INFORMATION, COPY AND PASTE, AND MOVE ON.
WE WANNA MAKE IT AS EASY AS POSSIBLE FOR THEM.
AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A PHYSICAL KIT, WHICH WILL INCLUDE THINGS LIKE DOOR HANGERS AND POSTCARDS, THINGS THAT THEY CAN PHYSICALLY TAKE WITH THEM OUT INTO THEIR COMMUNITIES.
SO WITH THAT, AFTER WE RECEIVE YOUR FEEDBACK TONIGHT, THIS IS THE TIMELINE THAT WE ARE PROPOSING.
WE ARE PROPOSING THAT THROUGH JULY, THROUGH SEPTEMBER, WE DEVELOP ALL OF THESE TOOLKIT PIECES AND TRAINING.
IN OCTOBER, WE'D LIKE TO OFFICIALLY PRESENT THE PROGRAM AT OUR OCTOBER NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERSHIP WORKSHOP.
AND THEN BETWEEN NOVEMBER AND FEBRUARY, WE'D LIKE TO HAVE TWO TRAINING SESSIONS, ONE IN NOVEMBER AND ONE IN JANUARY.
AND THEN WE'D LIKE TO TAKE THE REST OF THAT TIME TO GET EVERYTHING TOGETHER AND READY TO DISTRIBUTE SO THAT WE CAN KICK IT OFF IN MARCH.
THE REASON THAT WE CHOSE THE MARCH TIMEFRAME IS, IS AS YOU'VE HEARD, A LOT OF THESE ISSUES ARE DEPENDENT ON THE SEASON.
AND FEBRUARY, MARCH IS RIGHT IN TIME FOR US TO GET, UH, INTO THE SPRING SEASON.
SO THAT, THAT'S WHY THIS TIMELINE IS THE WAY THAT IT IS.
SO WE'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS OR FEEDBACK.
THE, I'M LOOKING AT THIS TIMELINE THAT YOU JUST, UH, GAVE US IN SLIDE 24.
WILL, WILL THE MEMBERS HAVE RESOURCES WITH THEM THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE PARTNER WITH VARIOUS ORGANIZATIONS AND HOUSES OF WORSHIP IN THE AREA.
THAT KIND OF HELP BECAUSE I'M THINKING THERE'S TWO GROUPS I'VE
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HEARD A LOT ABOUT.UM, ONE, I KNOW SOME OF THE SENIORS IN, IN OUR COMMUNITY SOMETIMES STRUGGLE TO KEEP UP WITH SOME OF THAT VEGETATION.
UM, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES THEY NEED THOSE EXTRA RESOURCES.
I KNOW SOME OF THE LOCAL CHURCHES DO SOME, UH, I GUESS WILL THE VOLUNTEERS HAVE THAT KIND OF INFO WHERE THEY CAN, WHEN THEY'RE OUT TALKING TO PEOPLE, THEY CAN GIVE THAT STUFF OUT? ABSOLUTELY.
WE CAN DEFINITELY EQUIP THE VOLUNTEERS WITH THIS KIND OF INFORMATION.
AND YOU DO HAVE A VERY GOOD POINT.
THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE, THE SENIOR CITIZEN REALM THAT DO NEED HELP.
AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO, JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION IS ANYTIME THAT WE ENCOUNTER OUR PROPERTY THAT'S FLAGGED BY, UH, AN APPRAISAL DISTRICT IS OVER 65, WE AUTOMATICALLY INCLUDE INFORMATION ABOUT THE VOLUNTEER ASSISTANCE PROGRAM WHEN WE SEND THEM A NOTICE.
BUT WE COULD DEFINITELY EQUIP OUR VOLUNTEERS WITH THIS INFORMATION AS WELL.
AND THE OTHER GROUP THAT I'M HEARING THAT I GET A LOT OF EMAILS ABOUT ARE, YOU KNOW, HOUSES ARE SOMETIMES RENTAL AND IT'S MORE OF OUR CITIES GOING TO RENTALS.
UM, AND I'M TALKING ABOUT LONG TERM RENTALS, NOT, UH, SHORT TERM.
UM, YOU KNOW, IS THERE A WAY TO MAYBE CONNECT WITH OWNERSHIP GROUPS OR IS THAT DONE ON, I GUESS, DIRECTLY WITH THE RENTER? UH, WE COULD DO EITHER WE, WE COULD DO EITHER OR FOR PEOPLE OUT IN THE FIELD.
THEY'RE NOT, WHEN THEY'RE OUT IN THE FIELD, THEY'RE NOT GONNA KNOW THE DIFFERENCE.
AND THAT'S THE GOAL IS THAT YOU WOULDN'T KNOW IF A PROPERTY IS A RENTAL OR NOT.
IF WE, IF WE GET, IF WE SEE THAT IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL, THEN ABSOLUTELY WE HAVE THE CAPACITY TO REACH OUT TO PROPERTY OWNERS.
LAST BUT NOT LEAST, I KNOW IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE SEEING MORE OF, AND IN FACT I HEARD FROM SOME NEIGHBORS A FEW WEEKS AGO, UM, ARE MORE AND MORE, UM, CARS BEING REPAIRED AND CARS ON BRICKS AND THAT KIND OF STUFF OUT IN DRIVEWAYS.
UM, AND THAT'S HAPPENING A LOT MORE AND MORE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD JUST EAST OF ME.
UM, WHAT, I GUESS, CAN WE MAYBE, I KNOW THERE'S A SECTION ABOUT VEHICLES, MAYBE INCLUDE SOME INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT'S ALLOWED AND WHAT'S NOT ALLOWED AS FAR AS REPAIRING CARS AND, UH, THAT KIND OF STUFF.
UM, AS SOMEONE, UH, WHO HAPPENS TO HAVE A BLACK THUMB AND IS NOT GOOD AT LANDSCAPING AT ALL, I WONDER IF IT MIGHT BE GOOD TO PUT, AND, YOU KNOW, SUSTAINABILITY IS SOMETHING WE TALK ABOUT A LOT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THE MATERIALS ARE INTENDED TO INCLUDE ANYTHING AROUND, THIS MAY NOT BE YOUR THING, BUT YOU WANNA HAVE A NICE YARD THAT'S NOT GONNA BE DIFFICULT TO MAINTAIN.
HERE'S SOME PLANTS OR HERE'S, OR SOME WAYS TO DO THAT.
UM, YOU KNOW, IF I DIDN'T HAVE A SPOUSE WHO, WHO DID THAT, I WOULD PROBABLY BE ON YOUR LIST SOMEWHERE WITH A, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE EXAMPLES YOU PUT UP THERE.
SO I THINK PROVIDING RESOURCE FOR FOLKS WHO JUST, IT MIGHT NOT BE THEIR THING.
THEY, THEY DESIRE TO DO IT AND JUST NEED SOME HELP AND SOME SORT OF DIRECTION ABOUT HOW TO DO IT IN A SUSTAINABLE WAY, UM, I THINK WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA.
I THINK IT'S GOOD TO FILL THAT GAP, AS YOU SAID, THERE'S A NEED.
UM, AND THAT THIS IS A REALLY CREATIVE WAY TO ADDRESS IT.
THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD ACTUALLY ALREADY TALKED ABOUT IS SORT OF HELPING PEOPLE UNDERSTAND HOW TO LANDSCAPE AND THERE ARE SO MANY RESOURCES THAT ALREADY EXIST, LIKE THE AG EXTENSION OFFICE.
SO IT, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF PACKAGING THEM AND GETTING THEM TO THE RIGHT, TO THE RIGHT PEOPLE.
UM, THANK YOU LINDSAY AND KIM.
UH, A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS I HAD YOU ANSWERED.
SO, UH, THANK YOU FOR DIVING INTO THIS IN, UH, GREAT DETAIL.
UM, I WON'T REITERATE ON THE SUSTAINABILITY 'CAUSE THAT WAS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS.
UM, I THINK, UH, AS FAR AS THE WORKSHOPS GO, I, I KNOW YOU'VE MENTIONED THAT WE'LL HAVE A WORKSHOP FOR PEOPLE TO COME TO, I'M ASSUMING AT THE, AT ONE OF THE CITY, UH, FACILITIES.
IS THERE ANY INDICATION THAT WE COULD GO OUT OR, OR ANY, WHETHER IT'S STAFF OR THE AMBASSADORS TO GO OUT AND GIVE ONSITE LIKE PRESENTATIONS OR, BECAUSE SOMETIMES PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO COME AND LEARN AND THEN SOME PEOPLE WILL NOT PAY ATTENTION TO SOCIAL MEDIA.
UM, AND, AND AGAIN, SOME OF THE DOOR HANGERS MIGHT GET THROWN AWAY AND, AND, AND TO, UH, AN EARLIER POINT, IF THEY'RE A RENTER AND THEY DON'T REALLY CARE ABOUT KEEPING UP WITH THE PROPERTY, THEN OF COURSE THE, THE OWNER OF THE, THE FACILITY HAS TO BE NOTIFIED.
BUT I'M JUST WONDERING IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE ENCOURAGED, AND IF SO, HOW WOULD THAT BE IMPLEMENTED? I THINK THAT'S GREAT FEEDBACK.
AND WE ARE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY ALL THE TIME.
WE GO TO HOA MEETINGS ALL OF THE TIME.
SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT IS OUT OF THE REALM OF POSSIBILITIES.
I THINK WE VERY MUCH COULD DO THAT IN THE FUTURE.
WE REALLY WANTED TO GIVE IT JUST ONE FIRST GO AROUND TO SEE HOW THE TRAINING GOES, TO SEE IF WE MODIFY, WE NEED TO MODIFY ANY OF THE TRAINING OR IF WE NEED TO MODIFY ANY OF THE TOOLS.
BUT I, I ABSOLUTELY SEE THAT THAT COULD BE PART OF THE FUTURE OF THE PROGRAM.
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WELL, AND THAT'S A GOOD POINT TOO, OF GOING TO THE HOA MEETINGS TOO.THAT'S ONE PLACE OUT WHERE YOU GET PEOPLE COMING IN LOCALLY, SO THAT'S GOOD.
UM, WHAT ABOUT, UH, RECRUITING AMBASSADORS, UH, BESIDES THE PRESIDENT AND SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ALREADY CONNECTED IN THE COMMUNITIES? IS THERE, IS THERE A WAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT CREATING SOME KIND OF AMBASSADORSHIP PROGRAM THAT YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
OUR PLAN IS TO UTILIZE ALL OF OUR MAJOR MEANS AND MODES OF COMMUNICATION, JUST LIKE WE WOULD WITH ANY OTHER MAJOR PROGRAMMING.
SO IN RICHARDSON TODAY, ONLINE, IN, IN EVERY WAY WE CAN, WE WILL ABSOLUTELY TRY TO INTRODUCE THE PROGRAM IN THOSE WAYS.
THANK YOU, LINDSAY, FOR THE, THE PRESENTATION AND FOR TAKING THE TIME TO, TO THINK OF AND, AND IMPLEMENT THIS PROGRAM.
UM, I THINK THE TIMELINE LOOKS GOOD.
I, I FEEL LIKE I WOULDN'T RUN IT ANY LATER THAN MARCH BECAUSE YOU WANNA GIVE PEOPLE TIME BEFORE THE SUMMER, OTHERWISE, I MEAN, OTHERWISE, YOU KNOW, IT JUST, WE'LL GET THAT ONE ROUND IN AND THEN THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO WALK AFTER THAT.
UM,
UH, I THINK THE, MY MY KIND OF LIKE MY SORT OF TWO META QUESTIONS HERE.
I MEAN, WHEN YOU SAY THERE'S THINGS THAT WE CAN REGULATE AND THINGS THAT WE, OR THINGS WE CAN'T ENFORCE AND THINGS WE CAN'T ENFORCE, IS THAT BECAUSE WE'VE MADE A DECISION NOT TO PUT THAT IN THE CODE? OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THE STATE HAS COME IN OR SOME OTHER ENTITY HAS COME IN AND SAID YOU CAN REGULATE IT UP TO THIS LEVEL, BUT YOU CAN'T REGULATE THESE THINGS? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
MOST OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT TODAY, UM, THERE WOULD BE NO, I THINK OUR ATTORNEYS WOULD SAY WOULD BE POINTLESS TO CREATE ORDINANCES ABOUT MM-HMM.
IF WE CAN'T TIE IT BACK IN SOME WAY TO HEALTH AND SAFETY, THEN IT WOULD NOT BE WORTH OUR WHILE.
BUT YOU DO BRING UP A GOOD POINT ABOUT OUR ORDINANCES.
MOST OF THE CITIES AROUND US HAVE JUST SIMPLY ADOPTED THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE, THE INTERNATIONAL PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE.
BUT THROUGHOUT THE BEGINNING OF, OF THE TWO THOUSANDS, A LOT, MOST OF OUR ORDINANCES ARE SPECIFIC FOR THE CITY OF RICHARDSON.
THEY WERE DEVELOPED AND APPROVED BY THIS COMMUNITY, AND THEY REFLECT THAT.
AND IF YOU REMEMBER, WE WERE HERE IN 2022 MM-HMM.
IT HAS TO BE HEALTH, SAFETY OR GENERAL WELFARE.
AND IF WE CAN'T TIE IT BACK TO A LEGITIMATE HEALTH SAFETY OR GENERAL WELFARE REASON, THEN WE SHOULDN'T, IT'S, IT'S NOT, IT WOULDN'T BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE UPHELD IN COURT.
NO, IT'S GOTTA BE ONE OF THOSE THREE.
YOU KNOW, AND I GUESS I'M JUST, THE REASON I'M I'M ASKING IS JUST 'CAUSE IF, IF WE COULD JUST CHANGE THE ORDINANCES, IT WOULD SORT OF, THEY GET THE QUESTION LIKE, DO WE NEED A PROGRAM LIKE THIS? MM-HMM.
BUT SINCE WE CAN'T CHANGE THEM, THIS IS, AND THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT I CAN SEE THE VALUE IN.
UM, ALTHOUGH I, I AM WONDERING, SO GIVEN LIKE WHERE THE TIMELINES FALL, WHERE DOES THIS FALL IN THE BUDGET? IS IT PART OF THIS YEAR'S BUDGET OR NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET, OR WHERE'S THE MONEY FOR THE PROGRAM COMING FROM? YEAH, IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A NOMINAL, UM, COST.
AND SO WE, WE WERE ABLE TO INCORPORATE IT.
WE'LL HAVE A LITTLE BIT IN THIS YEAR'S OPERATING BUDGET IN A LITTLE BIT NEXT YEAR'S, BUT IT WASN'T, IT DIDN'T EVEN RISE TO THE LEVEL OF AN EXPANDED PROGRAM.
THAT'S REALLY GOOD TO HEAR TOO.
UM, AND THEN, SO I GUESS THE, THE LAST QUESTION I HAVE THEN IS, YOU KNOW, ON, ON ONE HAND IT'S NOT REALLY A QUESTION.
UM, IT'S, IT'S MORE JUST A, A COMMENT OR A REQUEST.
YOU KNOW, ON ONE HAND, I, I REALLY LIKE THE IDEA OF GETTING NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS AND PEOPLE WHO CARE ABOUT THIS TO, INSTEAD OF JUST CALLING YOU LINDSAY, TO GET THEM TO FEEL EMPOWERED TO GO FACE TO FACE WITH THE NEIGHBORS THAT WOULD BE COMPLAINING ABOUT IN THE FIRST PLACE.
UM, I THINK THAT'S REALLY, REALLY NICE.
ON THE OTHER HAND, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE MATERIAL THAT WE SEND OUT AS A CITY IS REALLY SENSITIVE TO, HEY, SOME PEOPLE, MAYBE THEY JUST CAN'T AFFORD TO PUT THAT COAT OF PAINT ON UNTIL YOU GUYS GIVE US THE CITATION AND THE, THE, THE DRAFT MATERIAL YOU PUT IN HERE, WHEN I ZOOMED IN AND LOOKED AT IT, IT LOOKED REALLY, IT, IT REALLY RESPECTED THAT.
SO I WOULD JUST SAY ANYTHING YOU, YOU DO, JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND, RIGHT? THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO REPLACE THE, THE CRACKED WINDOW UNTIL IT JUST COMPLETELY FALLS OUT.
THANK YOU MR. MAYOR AND THANK YOU LINDSAY FOR THIS WONDERFUL PRESENTATION.
UH, YOU KNOW, FOR MATCH YOUR CITY LIKE RICHARDSON, UH, IT'S IMPORTANT TO MAINTAIN CLEANLINESS.
IT NOW, IT'S LIKE PICKING UP THE TRASH ON TIME.
UH, THAT'S THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY AND ALSO THE HOMEOWNER'S RESPONSIBILITY IS MAKING SURE THOSE, UH, TRASH ARE IN PLACE PROPERLY SO THAT CITY CAN PICK UP.
UH, SO FAR CODE ENFORCEMENT, YOU GUYS ARE DOING GREAT JOB.
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UH, SOME PEOPLE MIGHT BE GETTING MORE LETTER THAN THE THING THEY'RE GETTING, BUT THAT'S HELPING THE CITY, KEEPING IT UP TO DATE ALL THE TIME.UH, WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A GREAT THING THAT THIS PROGRAM, I THINK THIS WILL HELP UNDERSTAND PEOPLE THAT WHY THIS IS SO IMPORTANT.
THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PICKING UP THE COLORS.
THIS IS ABOUT SAFETY THAT, UH, DON MENTIONED.
SO I THINK THIS WILL UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WHY PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES PEOPLE THINK THAT WHY 14 FEET? WHY SEVEN FEET? UH, AND IF IT IS LESS THAN THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST, YOU KNOW, ONE FEET OR TWO FEET, THEY THINK THAT IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL.
BUT WITH THIS, I THINK THIS WILL HELP PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHY THESE ARE IMPORTANT.
NOW, ONE SUGGESTION THAT, UH, THIS KIT, YOU KNOW, IS GOOD TO HAVE ALL THIS FLYER, ALL THIS PAPER, UH, LOTS OF PEOPLE, THEY'LL PROBABLY JUST TRASH IT UNFORTUNATELY.
UH, AND BUT TO MAKE IT, UH, SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN KEEP IT FOR SOME TIME, WE HAVE TO PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION SO THAT THEY WILL THINK THAT YES, I CAN KEEP IT FOR A COUPLE MORE MONTHS BEFORE I TRASH IT.
SO YOU HAVE TO GIVE THEM SOME, I MEAN, TO ME, I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO GIVE THEM SOMETHING THAT, THAT WILL LET THEM MAKE THEM FEEL LIKE, OKAY, I NEED THIS IMPORTANT NEXT TWO MONTHS.
ONE THING COULD BE LIKE SOME EXAMPLE OF, UH, YOU KNOW, SUSTAINABLE LANDSCAPING.
SOME OF THE PICTURES, NOT THE TEXT, SOME GOOD PICTURES, UH, SOME IDEA.
THAT FOR SPECIFIC TO OUR RESEARCH AREA, I MEAN, WE HAVE PRETTY MUCH FLATLAND AND IF PEOPLE THINK SOMETHING GOOD PICTURE THAT HAS SOME HILLY, YOU KNOW, SIDE, UH, THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO BRING THAT LANDSCAPE TO THIS AREA.
SO IF WE HAVE SOMETHING MORE SPECIFIC TO OUR AREA, SOME IDEA, UH, THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WILL FEEL LIKE YOU KNOW THAT, OKAY, YES, I NEED TO KEEP THIS THING FOR, YOU KNOW, NEXT TWO MONTHS, AT LEAST WHEN I DO MY LANDSCAPING FOR THIS SEASON.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THIS, BUT YOU CAN COME UP WITH LOTS OF IDEA.
I THINK I'M, I'M VERY EXCITED HAVING THIS PROGRAM GOING.
THANK YOU, MR. HUTCHER RUDDER.
UM, LINDSEY, GREAT PRESENTATION.
UM, I LIKE THIS, BUT I DO HAVE THE CONCERN, YOU KNOW, IT'S PROBABLY THE OLD 80 20 RULE.
20% OF THE PEOPLE WILL, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T CARE AND THEY DON'T, THEY'LL IGNORE IT, BUT 80% REALLY WANNA DO SOMETHING.
BUT KIND OF TO, TO THE, TO THE POINTS THAT, YOU KNOW, IN MANY INSTANCES, IT'S NOT THAT PEOPLE DON'T WANNA DO SOMETHING, THEY EITHER CAN'T AFFORD IT, THEY PHYSICALLY CAN'T DO IT, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY, AND THIS IS KIND OF A, YOU KNOW, AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER TONIGHT BY ANY STRETCH, BUT YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT SEVERAL, UM, UNIVERSITY TOWNS, THEY HAVE WHAT'S CALLED THE BIG EVENT.
AND SO THEY PARTNER WITH THE UNIVERSITY STUDENTS AND THE STUDENTS VOLUNTEER FOUR HOURS.
AND THE, THE CITY ACTUALLY MAKE, I THINK IT'S THE CO COOPERATION BETWEEN BOTH THE CITY AND THE, AND THE SCHOOL WILL MAKE A LIST OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE ASKED FOR HELP, UM, IN, YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA SAY RELATIVELY SIMPLE TASKS OF, YOU KNOW, CLEANING UP A YARD OR PAINTING OR DOING THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND, YOU KNOW, EVERY YEAR WE HAVE THE TRASH BASH.
AND I THINK THE TRASH BASH IS WONDERFUL, DON'T GET ME WRONG.
BUT I WONDER IF WE COULD EXPAND THAT AND THINK ABOUT EXPANDING IT TO WHERE WE DID MORE OF LIKE A BIG EVENT WHERE WE GOT A LIST OF YOU KNOW, HOW MANY EVER PEOPLE THAT NEED ASSISTANCE IN, YOU KNOW, GOING AND, AND DOING SOME MAYBE MINOR FENCE WORK OR PAINTING SOME OF THE THINGS, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT I COULD INSTALL A GLASS WINDOW, BUT I COULD CERTAINLY PROBABLY PUT SCREWS IN A FENCE AND HELP PUT IT UP.
BUT I WONDER IF WE COULD TAKE THE TRASH BASH AND KIND OF PARLAY THIS, THIS PROGRAM AND MAYBE REACH OUT TO UTD OR, UH, MAYBE EVEN HIGH SCHOOLS.
AND IF WE, AS A PART OF TRASH BASH, OR IN ADDITION TO TRASH BASH, WE, WE THOUGHT ABOUT DOING SOMETHING.
'CAUSE I THINK I, I THINK FOR THE MOST PART, PEOPLE WANT TO KEEP THEIR YARDS IN GOOD SHAPE.
THEY WANT TO DO THE RIGHT THING, BUT THEY EITHER CAN'T PHYSICALLY DO IT OR THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT.
AND I THINK IF THERE'S A WAY THAT IN ADDITION TO, YOU KNOW, AND AGAIN, I'M NOT BEING, PLEASE DON'T TAKE IT AS I'M BEING, BEING CONDESCENDING, BUT TO PUT A PUT TO PUT A DOOR HANGER ON SOMEBODY'S DOOR THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, PLEASE THINK ABOUT AND FIX UP.
A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GONNA LOOK AT IT AND GO, I WANT TO, BUT I CAN'T, OR I CAN'T AFFORD IT.
AND SO I, I JUST WANT TO, I'M, I'M JUST A LITTLE CONCERNED THAT WE MAY GET A LITTLE BIT OF, I DON'T WANNA SAY NEGATIVE PUSHBACK, BUT THAT PEOPLE MAY INTERPRET IT WRONG.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE IT, IT, YOU KNOW, I KNOW I'VE GOT A NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR AND, AND YOU KNOW, HE, HE, WHEN HIS TREE DURING THE, THE, THE LAST STORM, HIS TREE WENT DOWN, YOU KNOW, HE, HE WAS TRYING TO FIND SOMEONE WHO COULD COME AND, AND HELP HIM GET THAT, THAT TREE
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AND, AND DEAL WITH IT.UM, SO IT WASN'T AN ISSUE OF NOT WANTING TO, HE JUST COULDN'T PHYSICALLY FIND SOMEBODY.
AND GRANTED, IT'S A LITTLE BIT, I MEAN, IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, BUT IT'S KIND OF ALONG THE SAME VEIN.
SO I'D JUST LOVE TO SEE US TAKE THIS AND GO MAYBE EVEN FURTHER AND SEE IF WE COULD DO SOMETHING IN COOPERATION WITH SCHOOLS AND THE COMMUNITY AND, AND, AND GET A LIST OF, IF WE HAD A LIST OF 50 PEOPLE, AND IT COULD BE ON A ROTATIONAL YEARLY BASIS OF, OF, OF GOING OUT AND HELPING THEM DO IT.
'CAUSE I THINK MOST PEOPLE WANNA DO THINGS.
THEY JUST CAN'T EITHER PHYSICALLY DO IT OR THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT.
I THINK THOSE ARE ALL REALLY GOOD POINTS.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT KIM HAS BEEN REALLY GOOD ABOUT, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS BEEN PART OF ALL OF OUR CONVERSATIONS IS THE WHOLE CAMPAIGN IS ALL POSITIVE.
THERE'S NOT, THE GOAL IS NOT TO SAY THIS IS WRONG.
THERE'S NONE OF THAT INVOLVED WITH THIS.
I I HEAR YOU ABOUT POTENTIALLY HAVING A LARGER SCALE VOLUNTEER ASSISTANCE DAY.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DEFINITELY LOOK INTO.
WE, WE'VE DONE THAT IN THE PAST.
ONE OF THE ENHANCEMENTS THAT WE'VE MADE TO OUR REGULAR VOLUNTEER ASSISTANCE PROGRAM IS ACTUALLY ALL OF THE PEOPLE THAT NEED HELP IN THE CITY.
RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE, THEY'RE ON OUR WEBSITE.
WE DON'T, I MEAN, THEIR ADDRESS IS NOT LISTED, BUT THE NEIGHBOR, THE STREET IS LISTED.
THERE'S A PHOTO OF THE VIOLATION AND A DESCRIPTION OF THE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE.
SO THAT'S BEEN A REALLY USEFUL TOOL BECAUSE IT MAKES IT MUCH EASIER FOR US TO PARTNER THOSE WHO WANNA VOLUNTEER WITH THOSE THAT NEED HELP.
JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS I I THOUGHT OF AND THAT TO COUNCILMAN HUTCHIN RYDER'S, UH, POINT, YOU KNOW, I DO AGREE THAT TRYING TO PARTNER WITH AS MANY PEOPLE AS WE CAN IS IMPORTANT.
AND, AND, YOU KNOW, AS A, AS A THOUGHT A LOT, UH, DEPENDING ON THE NEIGHBORHOODS, UM, THAT REQUIRE THIS, MAYBE SOME OF THE PARTNERSHIPS OF PEOPLE THAT DO USE SOME LANDSCAPING CREWS OR A SERVICE OR A COMPANY, MAYBE THE AMBASSADORS CAN REACH OUT TO THEM AND ASK IF ANY OF THOSE WOULD SORT OF, I DON'T WANNA SAY PRO BONO, BUT SAY, WOULD YOU GIVE ONSITE WORKSHOPS? 'CAUSE TO EVERYONE'S POINT, NOT EVERYBODY, IT'S, IT'S NOT JUST A MATTER OF NOT AFFORDING, BUT SOME PEOPLE JUST DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO IT.
UM, AND ANOTHER THING TOO IS I KNOW THE CITY HAS THIS ON THE WEBSITE, AND I KNOW I'VE USED IT FOR THE LAST 25 YEARS.
YOU HAVE THE INDIGENOUS PLANTS THAT ARE APPROVED BY THE CITY.
AND THAT WOULD ALSO BE ANOTHER PIECE OF THE PUZZLE TO ALLOW THEM TO BE ABLE TO SAY, IF I AM GONNA RE LANDSCAPE OR I'M GONNA UPDATE A FLOWER BED, OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, OR I'M GONNA LAND, DO SOME MINOR LANDSCAPING, WHETHER IT'S HARDSCAPE OR SOFT SCAPING.
UH, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO KNOW THAT THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE SUSTAINABLE THAT WOULD PULL BACK THE SUSTAINABILITY.
'CAUSE WE ARE MOVING THAT DIRECTION.
I THINK WE NEED TO ADVOCATE FOR SUSTAINABILITY AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
UH, IF SOMEONE IS, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT REDOING OR ADDING OR MODIFYING, BUT THE ONSITE WORKSHOPS IN ADDITION TO ALL THE OTHER, YOU KNOW, COME, COME TO THIS WORKSHOP OR WE'RE GOING TO COME OUT TO YOUR HO OR YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
BUT IF WE COULD MAYBE CONSIDER SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I BET THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, I DON'T MIND HELPING.
I ALREADY DO, YOU KNOW, 25 OR 30 PROPERTIES IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
I WOULDN'T MIND BEING PART OF THAT AMBASSADOR PROGRAM AND HELPING OR GO BY AND HELP THESE RESIDENTS.
KIM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR SHARING WITH US TONIGHT.
AND THE ONLY ONE THING I MIGHT ADD IS A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT TO DO, RIGHT, AND THEY BIGGEST THING, YOU CAN'T DO A JOB IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TOOLS, OR THEY'RE INTIMIDATED IF THEY DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TOOLS AND THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO BUY THE TOOLS, BUT THEY MIGHT HAVE THE ENERGY AND THE GUMPTION TO DO IT.
SO MAYBE THERE'S A WAY THAT WE COULD HAVE TOOLS AND A GOOD INSURANCE POLICY AND LET 'EM BORROW IT.
IF THERE'S ANYTHING OUT THERE, THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH AND Y'ALL DID A GREAT JOB.
[7. REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE FY 2024-2025 STREETS AND ALLEYS MAINTENANCE STRATEGIES ]
GONNA GO TO ITEM SEVEN, REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE FISCAL YEAR 20 24, 25 STREETS AND ALLEYS, MAINTENANCE STRATEGIES.UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF CAPITAL PROJECTS ENGINEERING, UH, NICOLE IS HERE TONIGHT, UH, WITH JUST FOUR WEEKS TO, UH, OUR BUDGET WORKSHOP.
UM, THIS IS ANOTHER, UH, VERY IMPORTANT DEEP DIVE THAT WE, UH, DO EVERY YEAR TO REALLY, UH, NOT ONLY REPORT ON OUR FY 24 WORK PLAN, BUT ALSO TO HELP YOU, UM, UH, BETTER APPRECIATE AND TAKE YOUR INPUT ON HOW WE PLAN TO SPEND, UH, FY 25, UH, TRANSFER OUT DOLLARS FOR BOTH STREETS AND ALLEY.
SO NICK'S GONNA RUN THROUGH THAT.
NICK, THANKS FOR EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE TO GET US THROUGH THIS BRIEFING TONIGHT.
UH, MR. MAGNER, UH, JUST KIND OF HIT A LITTLE BIT OF AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT I'M PLANNING ON TOUCHING ON TONIGHT.
UH, BE THE, UH, ANNUAL MAINTENANCE PROGRAM FOR OUR STREETS AND ALLEYS, AS WELL AS OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN FOR STREETS, ALLEYS, AND SIDEWALKS.
AND A BRIEF TOUCH ON OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS,
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UH, INTERACTIVE MAP.UH, AS MANY OF Y'ALL ARE, HOPEFULLY MANY OF Y'ALL ARE AWARE, OUR STREET CONDITIONS FALL INTO ONE OF FOUR CATEGORIES, EITHER GOOD, SATISFACTORY, FAIR, OR POOR.
UM, THAT CONDITION ASSESSMENT IS WHAT KIND OF DICTATES WHAT OUR APPROACH IS ON OUR STREET MAINTENANCE.
AND LIKE, UH, JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING OUT THERE, THE EARLIER ON SOMETHING IS IN ITS LIFECYCLE, THE LOWER THE COST IS TO MAINTAIN IT.
UM, SO AS THINGS DEGRADE, OUR MAINTENANCE STRATEGIES HAVE TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE INVASIVE AND CONSEQUENTLY MORE EXPENSIVE.
SO WE USE A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT APPROACHES AND WE TRY AND KEEP IT AS CLOSE TO THE TOP OF THE PYRAMID, UM, IN THE GRAPHIC THERE AS WE CAN JUST TO TRY AND KEEP OUR COSTS DOWN AND KEEP EVERYTHING IN AS GOOD A REPAIR AS WE CAN.
THE PYRAMID KIND OF ILLUSTRATES SOME OF THE, UH, VARIOUS APPROACHES THAT WE TAKE, UH, RELATED TO OUR, OUR MAINTENANCE ON THE, THE STREETS.
AS WE, UH, AS PART OF THAT, WE PARTNER WITH OUR PUBLIC SERVICES DEPARTMENT, UM, ON A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT, UH, ITEMS RELATED TO THE MAINTENANCE RELATED TO OUR, UH, CONCRETE REPAIRS.
WE HANDLE THAT OFTEN WITH OUR ANNUAL CONTRACT.
UH, COME IN, COME DO PANEL REPLACEMENTS, TAKE OUT THE TEMPORARY ASPHALT PATCHES THAT ARE PLACED AS AN INTERIM CONDITION AND, UH, RESTORE THAT.
WE USE THAT METHODOLOGY ON OUR NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS AS WELL AS OUR ARTERIALS AND OUR COLLECTORS.
UH, THE OTHER, ANOTHER ONE OF OUR IMPORTANT TOOLS IN THE TOOLBOX, WHICH IS NOT REAL GLORIOUS, BUT CRACK CEILING IS VERY IMPORTANT.
IT, UH, PREVENTS WATER INFILTRATION, UH, THROUGH THE PAVEMENT INTO THE SUBGRADE.
I THINK EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THE WONDERFUL CLAY SOIL WE HAVE HERE IN NORTH TEXAS ON HOW IT NOT ONLY SHRINKS AND SWELLS, BUT WHEN IT'S DRY, IT'S HARD AS THE ROCK.
AND WHEN IT GETS WET, IT'S REALLY SOFT AND SPONGY.
BUT WE DO OUR BEST TO MAKE SURE THAT IT DOESN'T GET SOFT AND SPONGY, THAT IT STAYS NICE AND FIRM, AND THAT PROVIDES A GOOD FOUNDATION FOR OUR STREETS.
SO THE CRACK CEILING IS A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF THAT, UH, MAINTENANCE APPROACH.
AND, UH, ANOTHER ONE THAT IS AN UNSUNG HERO IS OUR FOAM INJECTION THAT WE, UH, WE USE, UH, WHERE FOAM IS INJECTED UNDERNEATH THE CONCRETE.
SO WE CAN MAKE UP, UH, DIFFERENCES.
IF THERE'S A DISPLACEMENT BETWEEN THE JOINTS, WE CAN LEVEL THAT BACK UP AND MAKE IT NICE AND SMOOTH AGAIN.
IT ALSO ALLOWS US TO TAKE, UH, LOCALIZED BELLIES OUTTA THE PAVEMENT WHERE YOU MIGHT HAVE PONDING IN THE GUTTER LINE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
WELL, THAT, ONCE AGAIN, THAT'S IMPORTANT IF IT'S DRAINING, UH, WHEN IT'S RAINING, GOING DOWN THE GUTTER LINE INTO THE SO RAIN AND NOT PONDING, IT'S NOT INFILTRATING INTO THE SUBGRADE AND CAUSING US A PROBLEM ON THE FOUNDATION COURSE.
PLUS IT LOOKS NICE AND WE KEEP THE STREETS LOOKING PRETTY TOO.
UH, ANOTHER ONE OF THE ITEMS IS OUR HOT MIX ASPHALT OVERLAYS.
UH, THIS IS ONE OF OUR MORE ECONOMICAL WAYS TO EXTEND OUR LIFESPAN.
UM, A LOT OF OUR ROADS, WE HAVE PATCHED SEVERAL DIFFERENT TIMES.
WE'VE GOT SOME SUPERFICIAL, UH, AESTHETICS THAT GO ALONG WITH THAT, WHERE MAYBE WE HAVE A ROUGH SURFACE.
THE ASPHALT OVERLAY ALLOWS US THE OPPORTUNITY TO SMOOTH THE SURFACE BACK OUT.
AND, UH, IT ALSO ALLOWS US WITH THAT TO INCREASE OUR SKID FRICTION SO WE CAN REDUCE HYDROPLANING IN CERTAIN, UH, INSTANCES AS WELL AS EXPANDING THE, OR EXTENDING THE LIFESPAN OF THE PAVEMENT.
IT'S ALSO RATHER ECONOMICAL COMPARED TO, UH, JUST COMING IN AND DOING NOTHING BUT CONCRETE REPLACEMENT.
UH, AND IT, IT REALLY, UH, WORKS OUT WELL IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS BECAUSE IT, IT IS ALSO RATHER RAPID TO CONSTRUCT.
WE TYPICALLY CAN GET IN AND, UH, PLACE ASPHALT.
IT CURES IN USUALLY A MATTER OF AN HOUR OR IN MATTER OF HOURS.
IF YOU HAVE TO REMOVE IT, REPLACE IT, AND THEN WAIT FOR IT TO CURE BEFORE YOU CAN PUT TRAFFIC ON IT.
UH, TYPICALLY IT WILL GET US AN EXTRA FIVE YEARS PLUS OR MINUS ON THE LIFESPAN.
AND, UH, NOT QUITE AS LONG AS CONCRETE.
WHEN WE DO A REPLACEMENT, IT IS MORE LIKE 15 TO 20 YEARS TOTAL.
UM, BUT OUR COST IS ALSO KIND OF, UH, RELATIVE TO THAT AS WELL.
WE CAN DO ASPHALT FOR, UH, ABOUT 20 TO $25 BASED ON OUR CURRENT, UH, PROJECTION OR OUR CURRENT, UH, BID TABULATIONS, UH, VERSUS CONCRETE.
WE PAY ABOUT A HUNDRED TO $130 A SQUARE YARD.
UH, JUST A LITTLE SIDE NOTE, BOTH OF THOSE ARE JUST THE PAVEMENT EQUIVALENT COSTS, NOT NECESSARILY ALL THE ANCILLARY DEMO AND, UH, OTHER PREPARATORY COSTS THAT GO ALONG WITH THAT.
AND SPEAKING OF COSTS, UH, I THINK EVERYBODY KIND OF UNDERSTANDS HOW THE MARKETPLACE HAS BEEN.
ESCALATION HAS, UH, BITTEN INTO OUR BUDGETS QUITE, HE, UH, QUITE HEALTHY.
WHAT WE HAVE HERE ON THE SCREEN IS KIND OF A, A LIST OF OUR MOST
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BREAD AND BUTTER ITEMS. FOR EXAMPLE, OUR FOUR INCH SIDEWALK.YOU CAN SEE WHAT OUR PRICING HAS BEEN OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS.
OUR CHANGE IN PRICE THAT WE'VE, UH, EXPERIENCED JUST BETWEEN LAST YEAR AND THIS YEAR IS ABOUT A 26% INCREASE.
OUR ALLEYWAY PAVEMENT, WE'VE SEEN ALMOST A 30% INCREASE.
OUR SIX INCH ROAD PAVEMENT, 18%, EIGHT INCH ROAD PAVEMENT, 26%.
AND OUR, UH, EIGHT INCH WATER MAIN, I KNOW THAT'S NOT A WATER ITEM, BUT THE, UH, WATER MAIN.
WHEN WE, WHEN WE DO STREET RECONSTRUCTION, WE TYPICALLY REPLACE THE UTILITIES.
AND THAT JUST KINDA SHOWS AN OVERALL TREND THAT WE'RE SEEING ON ALL OF OUR COSTS, LIKE MOVE DOWN TO THE, THE MAINTENANCE, OUR STREET MAINTENANCE PROGRAM.
UH, OUR, UH, PROPOSED BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR WITH PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE.
OUR, WE'RE PLANNING ON, WE'RE PROPOSING KEEPING OUR BUDGET NUMBER FOR PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAD LAST YEAR.
OUR PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE COVERS CRACK, CEILING AND FOAM LEVELING.
OUR ARTERIAL STREET REPAIR PROGRAM, UH, LAST YEAR WAS 2.5, LITTLE OVER 2.5 MILLION.
AND THIS YEAR WE'RE PROPOSING 130, UH, THOUSAND, WHICH WILL PRIMARILY JUST GO TO A FEW LOCALIZED AS NEEDED, UH, REPAIRS AS THEY ARISE OVER THE NEXT YEAR.
UH, COLLECTORS ARE, WE'RE KIND OF SWITCHING FROM ARTERIALS TO FOCUSING ON COLLECTORS THIS YEAR.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, LAST YEAR OUR, OUR BUDGET WAS 50,000.
WE'RE PROPOSING A LITTLE OVER 1.6 MILLION, UH, WHICH WILL GET US TWO, UH, COLLECTOR STREET RE REHABS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
UM, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD STREET REPAIR PROGRAM LAST YEAR WE HAD FIVE, A LITTLE OVER 5.5 MILLION.
UH, THIS YEAR WE'RE PROPOSING, UH, 2.17 MILLION.
UH, WHAT'S WORTH POINTING OUT WITH THAT LAST YEAR WE DID GET SOME SUPPLEMENTAL FUNDING FROM THE SPECIAL PROJECTS, UH, RESERVE FUNDS TO ALLOW US TO DO ANOTHER, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, A WHOLE NOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, WORTH OF STREET REPAIR.
OUR OPERATIONS, UH, WE'RE PROPOSING 230,000 FOR THIS THIS UPCOMING YEAR, WHICH PRETTY MUCH COVERS THE PAYMENT MARKINGS FOR OUR STREET REHAB.
ONE OF OUR STAFF MEMBERS IS FUNDED OUT OF THAT, AS WELL AS SOME MISCELLANEOUS OPERATIONAL COSTS.
AND OUR ASPHALT OVERLAY PROGRAM, WE'RE PROPOSING MAINTAINING OUR FUNDING LEVEL SIMILAR TO LAST YEAR FOR AN OVERALL, UH, STREET MAINTENANCE BUDGET OF A LITTLE OVER $5 MILLION.
AND WITH THAT, UH, LITTLE BIT OF AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE FROM, UH, ON A STATUS FOR WORK FROM 24, UH, EXCUSE ME, FISCAL YEAR 24, UH, COMPLETED PROJECTS THAT WERE SHOWN HERE.
UH, WE, WE FINISHED THE, UH, MILL AND OVERLAY ON ARAPAHOE, WHICH IS A GREEN LINE.
I THINK THERE'S A POINTER HERE, ARAPAHOE.
UM, WE REDID SPRING VALLEY AND THE GREEN AREA.
RIGHT THERE WAS, UH, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AREAS THAT WE COMPLETED.
UM, WE DO HAVE A LOT THAT'S SHOWN AS DESIGN, BUT IT IS MOVING INTO CONSTRUCTION.
OUR GENERAL CONVENTION IS, WE DON'T SHOW IT AS CONSTRUCTION UNTIL IT'S UNDER CONTRACT, BUT WE, UH, WE HAVE OUR FY 24 ARTERIAL CONCRETE REPAIR, WHICH TAKES IN RENTER MELROSE AND BELTLINE, UH, THAT WILL BE GOING OUT TO ADVERTISE LATER THIS MONTH.
AS WELL AS, UH, THE ASPHALT OVERLAY ON COY AND, UH, BELTLINE.
AND WE CURRENTLY HAVE, UH, SEVERAL PROJECTS TRULY UNDER CONSTRUCTION AT THE MOMENT.
WEST SHORE DRIVE IS, UH, PART OF OUR WEST SHORE AND NEWBURY CONSTRUCTION.
UM, THE DUMONT OVERLAY IS, UH, BEING HANDLED WITH A PSA THROUGH DALLAS COUNTY.
AND WE ARE CURRENTLY CONSTRUCTING THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, CONCRETE REPAIRS IN AREA 24.
MOVING ON FOR WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IN FY 25 IS, UH, THE TWO ARTERIALS, UH, OR EXCUSE ME, THE TWO COLLECTOR STREETS, WHICH ARE WATERVIEW AND, UH, FLOYD.
WE, UH, WE ALSO HAVE AN ASPHALT OVERLAY PLAN FOR, UM, LOO AS WELL AS TWO NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, TWO RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AREAS, UH, 26 AND 27.
MOVING ON TO THE CAPITAL SIDE OF, OF THINGS, UH, I THINK EVERYBODY CAN TAKE A BIG SIGH OF RELIEF.
WE DID MANAGE TO GET CONSTRUCTION COMPLETED ON CUSTER AND WEST PRAIRIE CREEK.
UH, WE WERE READY TO SPIKE THE FOOTBALL AT THAT POINT.
UH, KINDA SIMILAR STORY THAT WE WERE ON.
WE'VE GOT A COUPLE THINGS, A COUPLE OF PROJECTS
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THAT ARE SHOWN AS DESIGN, LIKE CUSTER FROM CAMPBELL TO ONE 90.THAT IS, UH, ACTUALLY ADVERTISING FOR BIDS RIGHT NOW, AS IS EAST PRAIRIE CREEK.
UH, AND, UH, NEWBURY ROYAL CREST IS ON THE AGENDA FOR AWARD THIS EVENING.
UM, WE HAVE A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS THAT ARE VERY CLOSE TO GOING INTO CONSTRUCTION, UH, AS WELL AS THE ONES THAT WE CURRENTLY ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION WITH, LIKE GLENVILLE, UM, WEST SHORE, WHICH IS RIGHT HERE, CANYON BROOK AND FOREST GROVE, UM, AND SHERWOOD RIGHT HERE.
SO WE WE'RE DOING THE BEST WE CAN TO PUT THE DOLLARS ON THE ROAD.
WEST PRAIRIE CREEK AND CUSTER, WE, WE DID COMPLETE CONSTRUCTION ON THOSE.
WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF CLOSING THOSE CONTRACTS OUT.
GLENVILLE IS, HAS BEEN UNDER CONSTRUCTION FOR A LITTLE WHILE NOW.
UH, THEY ARE BASED ON SCHEDULE LOOKING TO START PAVING ON THE NORTHBOUND HALF OF THE ROAD NEXT MONTH.
AND CUSTER PARKWAY IS ADVERTISING, UH, AS SOON AS WE OPEN BIDS AND VET THOSE BIDS, WE'LL BRING, BRING THE, UH, AWARD MEMO TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL ON THAT AND GET CONSTRUCTION STARTED.
AND WESTSHORE IS, UH, WELL UNDERWAY WITH UTILITY INSTALLATION.
UH, MOVING ON TO ALLEY MAINTENANCE.
UH, THE MAP HERE SHOWS THE, IN THE RED SHOWS WHAT IS CURRENTLY, UH, ALL THE MAINTENANCE THAT'S CURRENTLY BEEN PERFORMED OR BEING PERFORMED AS PART OF THE FY 24 PROGRAM.
THE, UH, LINES THAT ARE SHOWN IN BLUE ARE PART OF WHAT'S PROPOSED FOR THE FY 25 PROGRAM.
AND, UH, OUR FUNDING, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING FOR A BUDGET ON THE FUNDING SIDE OF THINGS IS HOLDING CONSTANT FROM WHERE WE WERE LAST YEAR ON THE ALLEYS.
SO WE'RE HOLDING AT 1.9, LITTLE OVER 1.9 MILLION ONTO THE ALLEY CAPITAL SIDE OF THINGS.
UH, ALLEYWAYS SIMILAR CONVENTION.
UH, WE, WE HAVE COMPLETED TWO PROJECTS COMPLETELY, WHICH ARE OUR ALLEY GROUP, UH, UM, THREE, WHICH RIGHT HERE AND HERE.
AND THEN, UH, ALLEY GROUP SEVEN, PHASE ONE, WHICH IS PARALLELS CUSTER PARKWAY, WHICH WAS IMPORTANT FOR US BEFORE WE COULD LET THE, UH, CUSTER PARKWAY ROAD PROJECT.
AND WE HAVE SEVERAL PROJECTS THAT ARE SHOWN IN DESIGN AND RED.
HOWEVER, THEY ARE BEING PREPARED FOR AWARD, UH, RIGHT NOW.
AND THOSE WILL BE IN CONSTRUCTION IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE.
AND, UH, A LOT OF WHAT IS SHOWN IN BLUE ARE PART OF A MULTIPLE PACKAGE, UH, PROJECT.
SO A LOT OF 'EM ARE WELL INTO CONSTRUCTION AND WRAP NEAR WRAPPING UP STAGE.
SO THOSE WILL BE ROLLING OFF AND TURNING GREEN, UH, IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE.
UH, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WE HAVE SOLD MOST OF THE DEBT FOR THE, UH, ALI BOND PROGRAM EARLY ON, AND WE ARE SELLING THE LAST OF IT AS PART OF THIS FISCAL YEAR.
MOVING ON TO THE SIDEWALK, UH, CAPITAL SIDE.
UH, WE DO WORK, WE DO TRY AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THE GOAL OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH WITH THE SIDEWALK PROGRAM, WHICH, UH, WE WORK WITH OUR COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT QUITE A BIT TO PUT THAT INFORMATION OUT THERE AND HAVE A RESOURCE THAT WE CAN POINT FOLKS BACK TO, UH, SO THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THE CRITERIA THAT WE USE.
UM, MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE PROVIDING ACCESSIBLE ROUTES FOR EVERYONE IN RICHARDSON THAT EVERYBODY CAN ENJOY, UH, BEING OUTSIDE AND USING ALL THOSE.
AND THEN, UH, EXCUSE ME, WE, WE KINDA STICK, WE, WE TRY AND PUT THINGS IN A GRAPHICAL FORMAT TOO, 'CAUSE A PICTURE'S WORTH A THOUSAND WORDS.
UH, BUT IN GENERAL, HERE'S THE CRITERIA THAT WE DO STICK TO ON THE, UH, WHAT WE HAVE HERE IN THE GREEN SHOWS, UH, RESIDENTIAL, OUR RESIDENTIAL CATEGORY, UH, TWO A, WHICH WAS STARTED IN FY 23 AND COMPLETED IN FY 24, WHICH IS WHY IT'S SHOWN AS A 24 PROJECT.
AND, UH, THREE SECTIONS IN BLUE.
UH, THE COMMERCIAL ZONE IN THE MIDDLE, UH, WHICH IS 2, 3, 2 AND THREE.
AND RESIDENTIAL TWO B, UH, THE PROJECTS HAVE BEEN BID AND WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF STARTING CONSTRUCTION.
THEY'LL BE WRAPPED UP IN FY 25 AND, UH, RESIDENTIAL ONE B, UH, WE WILL BE PUTTING OUT THE ADVERTISEMENT FOR THE END OF THE CALENDAR YEAR THIS YEAR, AND THAT WILL WRAP UP IN FY 25, WHICH LEAVES US WITH JUST ONE LITTLE AREA LEFT OUT OF THE BOND, UH, WHICH WE WILL
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GET COMPLETED IN FISCAL YEAR 26.UH, WE HAVE SOLD ALL THE DEBT FOR THE SIDEWALK PROGRAM, AND, UH, SO WE WILL NOT BE LOOKING TO ISSUE ANY MORE DEBT AT THAT POINT, AT THIS POINT.
AND, UH, I GUESS AS WE DRAW TO AN END HERE, OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS INTERACTIVE MAP.
ANOTHER ITEM WE'VE WORKED WITH OUR COMMUNICATIONS GROUP ON, UH, WE'VE REALLY BEEN TRYING TO GET TO BE A DIRECT TO RESIDENT, UH, FORM OF COMMUNICATION SO THAT WE CAN DISTRIBUTE FIRSTHAND INFORMATION, MAKE IT, UH, CONVENIENT AND EASILY CONSUMABLE SO THAT FOLKS HAVE A REFERENCE THAT THEY CAN COME BACK TO, UM, WHATEVER MATCHES THEIR SCHEDULE AND GET THE TYPICAL INFORMATION THEY WOULD BE LOOKING FOR.
UH, SO EACH RESIDENT, THEY CAN JUST CLICK ON WHATEVER PROJECT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR, THAT'LL PULL UP A DIALOGUE BOX, WHICH HAS THE PROJECT MANAGER'S NAME A BRIEF, UH, ABBREVIATION OF THE SCOPE, UH, CONTRACTS OR THE, UH, PROJECT PHASE TIMELINE FOR WHEN WE ANTICIPATE TO COMPLETE DESIGN OR START CONSTRUCTION, UH, BASIC INFORMATION.
BUT, UH, THAT DOES GET UPDATED EVERY TWO WEEKS SO THAT WE ARE KEEPING THAT, UH, KEEPING THAT AS CURRENT AND FRESH AS WE CAN.
UM, AS A KIND OF WRAP UP HERE, UH, WE DO, WE DO WELCOME ANY FEEDBACK THAT THE COUNCIL HAS ON OUR, OUR STRATEGY AND FOR THE MAINTENANCE AND CAPITAL SIDE OF THINGS ON THE STREETS.
AND WE, WE LOOK TO COMMENCE WITH OUR, UH, STREET AND ALLEY REHAB PLAN, AS WELL AS OUR 21 BOND PROGRAM, UH, IMPLEMENTATION, AND LOOK FORWARD TO PROVIDING PERIODIC UPDATES ON, ON OUR CIP IMPLEMENTATION.
I GUESS IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, NICK.
ANY QUESTIONS MR. SAM? THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.
JUST, UH, A QUICK QUESTION, BUT THAT MIGHT MAKE LOTS OF PEOPLE HAPPY, IS, UH, I KNOW THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT, UH, THE INTERACTIVE MAP THAT IT HAS CLICKED DOWN THINGS THAT CAN SHOW THE SCHEDULE OF THE PROJECT AND YES, SIR.
AND HOW, I MEAN, DO YOU UPDATE THE SCHEDULE AS THE PROJECT CONSTRUCTION GOES THROUGH? YES.
EVERY, EVERY TWO WEEKS, THE, UH, PROGRESS GETS UPDATED AND IF THERE'S ANY, UM, CHANGE IN IMPORTANT THING LIKE A, A CHANGE IN CONSTRUCTION PHASE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT GETS ADDED TO THAT.
SO WE, NOW WITH THAT, BECAUSE IT SEEMS SOME OF THE PROJECTS, UH, BY THE WAY, I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS AN ISSUE WITH THE LABOR AND SUPPLY.
SO SOME OF THE PROJECTS LOOKS LIKE GOES FOREVER, UH, ESPECIALLY DRIVING THROUGH.
AND IF YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT ROAD, YOU KNOW, DAY EVERY DAY, EVERY WEEK, IT SEEMS THAT IT'S NEVER ENDING.
UH, BUT SOMEONE WHO DOES NOT GO THERE VERY OFTEN, THEY DON'T FEEL THAT PAIN.
SO YEAH, I MEAN THAT'S, UH, AND YOU DO HAVE, I BELIEVE THAT, YOU KNOW, GIVEN TIME TO THE CONTRACTOR THAT THESE PROJECTS NEED TO BE DONE WITHIN THESE DAYS.
AND, UH, I KNOW THIS QUESTION CAME BEFORE, I'M JUST ASKING AGAIN.
IS THERE ANY REWARD OR PENALTY FOR THE CONTRACTOR TO FINISH IT ON TIME EARLY OR, UH, BEING LATE? WE, WE DO NOT HAVE ANY KIND OF INCENTIVE FOR EARLY COMPLETION, UH, IN OUR, ANY OF OUR CURRENT CONTRACTS.
WE DO HAVE LIQUIDATED DAMAGES SPECIFIED FOR CONTRACTS THAT OVERRUN THE CONTRACT TIME.
UH, WITH KIND OF TO YOUR POINT ALSO WITH, UH, I KNOW WHEN WE, WITH CUSTER PARKWAY, WE TOOK A DIFFERENT APPROACH ON THE PHASING ON HOW WE'RE HANDLING THAT.
SO WE ARE TRYING TO PREVENT WHAT HAPPENED ON THE FIRST PHASE OF CUSTER AND DURING WESTFORD CREEK, WE'RE TRYING TO MINIMIZE THAT, UM, SO THAT WE TREAD AS LIGHTLY AS WE CAN AND INTERRUPT PEOPLE'S EVERYDAY LIFE AND MINIMIZE THE INCONVENIENCE.
WE CAN'T COMPLETELY GET RID OF IT, BUT WE'RE DOING OUR BEST TO MANAGE IT IN, IN THE OFF CHANCE THAT WE DO RUN INTO SOME KIND OF SHORTAGE OR CONCRETE RATIONING, SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE THAT IS UNFORESEEN.
SO WE, WE ARE TRYING TO PLAN THINGS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY AND, AND TAKE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT APPROACH TO IT.
UH, WELL, COUPLE OTHER QUESTIONS.
SMALL QUESTION FOR STAGING FOR THE CONTRACTOR, KEEPING THE MATERIAL ON SITE AND HOW, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE YOU HAVE POLICY FOR THAT, YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY CAN KEEP THE MATERIAL AND WHERE, UH, THEY SHOULD FEEL THAT IF THERE IS ANY, YOU KNOW, THEY DIG ANY HOLE HOW TO KEEP THOSE, UH, SAFE.
SO YOU DO HAVE WRITTEN POLICY, I'M, I'M SURE YOU'RE IMPLEMENTING THOSE THINGS CAREFULLY WITH THE CONTRACTORS? YES, WE, WE, UH, WE WORK WITH THE CONTRACTORS ON TRAFFIC CONTROL PLANS, WHICH TAKE IN THEIR, UH, MATERIALS, EQUIPMENT, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
UH, EVERY PROJECT IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT DEPENDING WHERE
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IT IS AND, UH, WHAT WE'RE DOING, HOW WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO LEAVE CLOSED PERMANENTLY OR WHAT WE, WE WORK WITH, WE DO WORK WITH THE CONTRACTOR, I GUESS IS BOTTOM LINE ON THAT FRONT.I, I UNDERSTAND, I MEAN, I KNOW I HAVE SEEN THAT IT'S ALL WRITTEN, YOU DO HAVE THE POLICY, BUT I JUST WANTED TO HAVE OTHER PEOPLE HERE THAT IS THERE.
AND ALSO A STORM MOTOR POLLUTION PREVENTION PLAN AS W THREE P THAT WE CALL YES, YOU DO FOLLOW THOSE THING, UH, THAT, THAT IS INCLUDED ALL OF OUR CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTS.
SO SOMETIMES WE MAY SEE SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, LOOKS ODD, BUT YOU ARE UP TO, YOU KNOW, ON THAT PROJECT MAKING SURE THAT GET THINGS GET CORRECTED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
UH, NOW ONE THING THAT WHEN PEOPLE RE YOU KNOW, REPORT SOMETHING ONLINE ABOUT THE POTHOLES, SOME OTHER ISSUES, SIDEWALK ISSUE, HOW OFTEN YOU GO THROUGH THE, UH, LIST.
IT MIGHT BE, IT MIGHT NOT HAVE THE ANSWER TODAY, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU DO, YOU DO, UH, CHECK THOSE LIST.
UH, HOW DO YOU PRIORITIZE THOSE THINGS? WE, UH, WE DO STREET ASSESSMENTS EVERY FOUR TO FIVE YEARS, TYPICALLY ON AVERAGE.
UH, BUT WE ALSO TRACK ANY, UM, ANY WORK ORDERS THROUGH OUR CITY, OUR CITY WORKS PLATFORM.
SO WITH POTHOLES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WE ARE ABLE TO QUERY WHAT, HOW MANY OF POTHOLES OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.
SO WE ARE KEEPING TRACK OF THAT INFORMATION AS WELL.
SO THAT DOES HELP US PRIORITIZE WHEN WE'RE DOING COLLECTORS ARTERIALS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
SO IT'S, IT IS NOT JUST ONE POTHOLE SOMEWHERE THAT NO ONE STREET IS NOT A PRIORITY.
IF THERE IS MULTIPLE, THAT WOULD BE PRIORITY, RIGHT? BECAUSE CITY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE OLD INFRASTRUCTURE AND, UH, UNFORTUNATELY WE CAN'T REALLY TELL THE STREET NOT TO CRACK THIS YEAR, WAIT FOR NEXT YEAR.
SO PRIORITIZING THOSE THINGS IS IMPORTANT AND, UH, IT CAN GO EVERYWHERE SAME TIME.
AND, UH, I DO SEE SOME RECENTLY SOME PORTHOLE THAT, UH, YOU GUYS HAVE FIXED, IT'S DONE VERY IN PROPER WAY.
AND BECAUSE FOR ASPHALT WATER IS THE ENEMY, ASPHALT DOESN'T LIKE WATER.
IF WATER FLOWS THROUGH AND ASPHALT IS IN A STEEP SLOPE, IT JUST GOES, YOU KNOW, UH, BREAK DOWN.
SO I HAVE SEEN SOME OF THE PORTAL THAT YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, FIXED RECENTLY, UH, THAT WAS DONE PROPERLY.
WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS THAT WHEN IT SINKS, IT SINKS NOT JUST ONE SPOT, IT SYNCS WITH LARGER SPOTS SOMETIMES.
AND SOMETIMES WE TEND TO JUST FILL THAT HOLE AND THEN, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF THE, YOU KNOW, BONDING SITUATION THERE, THAT HOLE BREAKS DOWN WITHIN, WITHIN A FEW EVENTS, RAIN EVENTS.
BUT RECENTLY I HAVE SEEN THAT YOU HAVE FILL OUT THE HOLE HOLE AND, UH, I THINK THIS WILL LAST FIVE YEARS, THAT FIVE YEARS THAT YOU HAVE OTHERWISE, YOU KNOW, THOSE KIND OF ASPHALT.
IT DOES NOT EVEN LAST ONE SEASON, BUT THANK YOU.
I THINK CITY'S BEEN DOING GOOD JOB, UH, FILLING SOME OF THE PORTALS.
LET ME, UH, BEFORE WE MOVE ON, NICK'S, NICK'S TOO HUMBLE TO SAY THIS.
SO
SO, UM, IT'S NOT UNCOMMON, ACTUALLY, IT'S MORE COMMON THAN NOT THAT THE SCOPE OF OUR PROJECTS ARE CHANGING BECAUSE OF WHAT WE IDENTIFY IN THE FIELD.
AND, YOU KNOW, WESTBURY CREEK WAS A PERFECT EXAMPLE.
IT WOULD'VE BEEN IRRESPONSIBLE FOR US TO GO IN AND TO, UH, REPLACE THE WATER AND THE SEWER, AND AS WE FOUND ADDITIONAL FAILURES, UM, NOT TO REPLACE THOSE FAILURES TO PUT, YOU KNOW, GOOD MONEY OVER BAD.
AND SO, UM, I JUST THINK IT'S, IT'S A BYPRODUCT OF WHERE WE ARE AS A, AS A COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, WITH 80% OF OUR STREETS AND WATER AND WASTEWATER BEING, UM, YOU KNOW, 40 YEARS OLD, 25 IS THE USEFUL LIFE, YOU KNOW, EXPECTANCY OF A STREET WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO HAVE TO, UM, REDEVELOP.
AND WHEN YOU REDEVELOP, IT'S AN IMPERFECT SCIENCE AS, AS OPPOSED TO GREENFIELD DEVELOPMENT WHERE YOU'RE JUST STARTING ANEW AND YOU HAVE ALL THE LUXURY OF, OF GREENFIELD TO WORK WITH.
AND SO I THINK THAT ACCOUNTS FOR A LOT OF THE ISSUES.
AND IT'S NOT JUST THIS, IT'S NOT JUST OUR INFRASTRUCTURE.
UM, CUSTER WAS NOT ONE OF THE BIGGEST HOLD UPS ON CUSTER WASN'T OUR INFRASTRUCTURE.
IT WAS ONE OF OUR FRANCHISES INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE HAD TO WAIT ON THEM TO, TO RELOCATE BECAUSE THE BUILT TO, I MEAN THE, UM, AS-BUILT DRAWINGS WERE INCORRECT.
AND WHEN WE GOT OUT THERE, WE DISCOVERED THAT, UM, THAT UM, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT UTILITY, IT WAS
AND SO, UM, I JUST THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE COMMUNITY TO UNDERSTAND THIS IS THIS IS A MUCH DIFFERENT TYPE OF CONSTRUCTION PROJECT WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO REBUILD A STREET CURB TO
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CURB IN A COMPLETELY DEVELOPED OUT DOWNTOWN AREA OR A COMPLETELY DEVELOPED NEIGHBORHOOD THAT, THAT IT'S A NEIGHBORHOOD COLLECTOR WHERE YOU'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, 15,000 CARS A DAY THAT, THAT DRIVE ON IT.IT'S A MUCH, MUCH DIFFERENT PROJECT, AND WE ALWAYS ASPIRE TO, AND WILL ALWAYS ASPIRE TO STAYING ON TIME.
IT'S JUST A LOT, IT'S A LOT MORE CHALLENGING WHEN YOU, YOU CAN'T FULLY UNDERSTAND, UM, THE SCOPE OF WHAT YOU MIGHT HAVE TO, UH, WORK ON, UM, BECAUSE YOU'RE REPLACING SOMETHING RATHER THAN BUILDING SOMETHING.
I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S GREAT BECAUSE WHEN YOU MENTIONED THAT AS BILLS AS BILLS ARE NOT ACCURATE, WELL MOST OF THE, MOST OF THE TIME THERE IS NO ASBUILT, UH, ESPECIALLY FOR THE TELEPHONE ELECTRIC, THERE ARE NONE.
EVEN THE STORM DRAIN SOMETIMES IT SHOWS CERTAIN LEVEL AND IT'S NOT THERE.
SO THAT'S THE CHALLENGE, UH, REBUILDING A STREET BECAUSE CONFLICT, THAT'S THE MOST, MOST CHALLENGE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE ACCURATE INFORMATION.
UH, BUT THIS IS THE NATURE, YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN YOU DO? RIGHT? UH, I THINK LOTS OF US PROBABLY DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY HE'S TAKING SO, SO TIME, UH, BECAUSE WHEN SOMETHING WE, YOU KNOW, YOU FIND GAS LINE THERE, UH, AND THE MAP SHOWS THAT GAS LINE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE SOMEWHERE IN THE STREET, IT DOESN'T SHOW THAT IT IS RIGHT IN THAT ALONG THAT ROAD.
I MEAN, UH, I THINK THE MORE WE SHARE INFORMATION, OUR PEOPLE, OUR RESIDENTS ARE VERY SMART.
THEY WILL UNDERSTAND AND VERY PATIENCE TOO.
DONNA, I WANNA FOLLOW UP ON THAT COMMENT, UM, THAT DIALOGUE ABOUT THE TIMELINE THOUGH.
UH, 'CAUSE I, I TOTALLY, I UNDERSTAND, UM, ABSOLUTELY WHAT, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
I, AND YOU KNOW, WHAT NICK IS SAYING, WHAT COUNCILOR SHAEL IS, IS AGREEING TO, BUT YOU KNOW, I DO THINK THAT IT'S ALSO SOMETHING WE CAN'T JUST GO AND SAY, HEY, WE DON'T HAVE ANY ETA BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S UNDER THERE.
AND SO, I MEAN, I GUESS I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE, LIKE, ON THE FUTURE PROJECTS, JUST I'D RATHER FROM A PR PERSPECTIVE, SINCE I DON'T KNOW THE ENGINEERING, I WOULD JUST SAY LIKE, OVERESTIMATE MM-HMM.
COULD YOU ELABORATE JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE, YOU KNOW, HOW ARE YOU PLANNING TO DO THINGS DIFFERENTLY? OR LIKE WHAT, WHAT CHANGES DO YOU SEE NOW ON CUSTER PARKWAY, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT'S A RATHER LONG STRETCH OF ROADWAY? MM-HMM.
SO WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE HAVE DONE ON CUSTER AND WEST PRAIRIE CREEK WAS THE LIMITS ARE THE CONTRACTORS FROM STEM TO STERN.
SO WHAT WE PUT IN THE, UH, CONTRACT WAS WE BROKE IT INTO THREE PIECES, AND BASICALLY WE'RE ALLOWING THE CONTRACTOR TO WORK IN ALL THREE PIECES AT ONE TIME, IF THEY HAVE THE RESOURCES TO DO SO.
BUT IF THEY'RE NOT WORKING IN THERE, THEY NEED TO HAVE EVERYTHING BACKFILLED, BARRICADES AND EVERYTHING MOVED OFF TO THE SIDE SO WE CAN HAVE IT OPEN TO TRAFFIC FOR I SEE CARRYING TRAFFIC, UH, PARKING, UH, MAIL DELIVERY UP, ALL THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.
BUT, UH, WE'RE TRYING TO LIMIT AND MAKE SURE THAT THE CONTRACTOR DOESN'T HAVE FREE REIGN IF THEY DON'T PROVIDE ENOUGH RESOURCES, UM, SO THAT WE'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT WORKING ON ONE LITTLE SMALL PART ON THE VERY END, BUT THE WHOLE ROAD IS NECKED DOWN TO MINIMUM TRAFFIC LANES AT THAT POINT.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING ON THAT FRONT.
IF THAT, WE DON'T, IF WE DO GET INTO THAT OFF CHANCE THAT WE HAVE FRANCHISE UTILITIES THAT ARE HOLDING US UP, THE ROADWAY WILL BE, FOR THE MOST PART, FUNCTIONALLY OPEN, UM, MM-HMM.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? MM-HMM,
YEAH, I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE.
IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE SAYING ESSENTIALLY, HEY, THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT WE CAN'T CONTROL AND THE TIMELINE MAY BE ONE OF THEM, BUT WE CAN AT LEAST MITIGATE THE IMPACTS OF SORT OF AN EXTENDED TIMELINE IF UNFORESEEN CONSEQUENCES ARISE.
UM, WELL, I JUST WANNA ADD ONE THING TO THAT.
I MEAN, I THINK THE WHOLE IDEA OF, YOU KNOW, INITIALLY ESTIMATING CUSTARD TO BE AN 18 MONTH PROJECT, I MEAN, WE ARE TAKING A MUCH MORE REALISTIC LOOK, OKAY.
AT WHAT CAN WE DO AND WHAT TIMEFRAME.
AND, UM, I THINK JUST LIKE WE BUILD CONTINGENCY IN ON THE FINANCIAL SIDE TO A PROJECT, WE'RE, WE'RE STARTING TO BUILD CONTINGENCY IN FOR THE UNEXPECTED AND THE TIMELINE AS WELL.
AND I BELIEVE IF, IF WE, WE TOOK THAT PROJECT FROM AN 18 MONTH TO A 24 MONTH, AND I BELIEVE, YOU KNOW, WE'LL EITHER MEET IT OR WE'LL EXCEED EXPECTATIONS RATHER THAN TRYING TO, UM, BE SO, UH, EXACT AND EVERYTHING HAS TO GO JUST RIGHT TO HIT THE 18 MONTHS AND THEN THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN AND WE, WE ARE BEHIND AGAIN.
SO I THINK ANOTHER THING THAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE TAKING A MUCH MORE REALISTIC LOOK AND APPROACH TO, UH, PLANNING, UM,
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AND, UH, PLANNING TIMELINES AND SETTING EXPECTATIONS OF THE COMMUNITY SO THAT WE CAN, UM, WE CAN, WE CAN MEET THOSE.NO, I, UH, I KNOW IT'S SOMETHING THAT, LIKE YOU MENTIONED, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S NEW-ISH FOR US, GIVEN THE AGE OF OUR CITY NOW AND WHERE WE ARE.
AND I KNOW THAT I LIKE TO SEE THAT WE'RE LEARNING AND IMPROVING.
SO, UH, WHEN THOSE, WITH THOSE NON-COMPLIANT RAMPS, JUST HOW MANY OF THEM, I GUESS WHAT COMPLIANT WITH WHAT NON-COMPLIANT WITH WHAT? SO FEDERAL, FEDERAL REGULATIONS CHANGED IN SEPTEMBER.
PRO WAG WAS ADOPTED, UM, WHICH IS, I THINK FOR THE MOST PART WE'VE BEEN, FOR THE MOST, WE'VE BEEN COMPLIANT WITH THAT IN KNOWING IT'S BEEN ON THE HORIZON.
BUT IT BECAME OFFICIAL THAT, UM, IN SEPTEMBER OF 23.
SO WE'VE, UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THE RAMPS IN PARTICULAR, OUR CURB RAMPS WERE PROBABLY THE BIGGEST THING THAT CHANGED WITH THAT.
I KNOW, UH, KIND OF WHAT WAS SHOWN ON THE PICTURE.
LIKE YOU, FOR EXAMPLE, A LOT OF, WE GET A LOT OF FOLKS LIKE, WHY ARE YOU REPLACING THAT? IT'S NOT BROKEN UP.
WELL, IT, I KNOW IT'S REALLY HARD TO SEE IN THAT PICTURE, FOR EXAMPLE, BUT THAT'S RELATIVELY STEEP.
SOMEBODY IN A WHEELCHAIR WOULD HAVE A BIG DISAGREEMENT WITH YOUR POINT OF VIEW ON THAT.
UH, IT, IT ALSO MAKES A PERSON IN A WHEELCHAIR CHANGE DIRECTIONS.
UM, AT THE BOTTOM OF THE RAMP.
THERE'S, THERE'S SEVERAL COMPONENTS THAT KIND OF GO ALONG TO IT BESIDES IT'S GRADE.
UM, IT DOES NOT ACCOMMODATE, UH, VISUALLY IMPAIRED PEOPLE BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE THE BAND MM-HMM.
UH, I, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT COME INTO THAT.
SO WE, WE TRY AND PUT, THAT'S WHY WE WORK WITH COMMUNICATIONS TO COME UP THE WEBSITE IS TRY AND MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTOOD THE GOAL ON WHAT WE'RE DOING, NOT JUST WE'RE COMING INTO YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD TEARING IT UP AND IT, THERE'S NO RHYME OR REASON TO IT BECAUSE THERE IS, IT MAY NOT BE EVIDENT TO A LAY PERSON, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT'S NOT MAYBE UP TO THE SPEED ON ALL THE CODE, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE WERE HOPING TO BRIDGE THE GAP WITH, UH, OTHER FORMS OF MEDIA LIKE THIS TO, UH, KIND OF USE IN CONJUNCTION WITH OUR COMMUNICATION EFFORTS.
NO, I, I'M NOT QUESTIONING THE, THE NEED, I'M JUST WONDERING IF IT, YOU SAID COMPLIANCE, SO I JUST WANTED TO, SO IT'S A FEDERAL REGULATION THOUGH.
YES, WE HAVE TO DO IT AS WELL.
UM, AND THEN, UH, LAST, UH, JUST LAST QUESTION.
SLIDES FIVE AND SIX, CAN YOU JUST HELP EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE IN THE PRICE OF ASPHALT THERE? OR LIKE WHAT I MISSED? BECAUSE ON ONE SLIDE IT SAYS IT'S SUBSTANTIALLY CHEAPER, AND THEN IT APPEARS LIKE ON THE OTHER SLIDE THAT IT SAYS THAT IT'S MORE EXPENSIVE.
SO SEE, LIKE THE TWO INCH ASPHALT OVERLAY, IT'S 1 92 A UNIT COST, BUT THEN YOU GO UP AND THAT HOT ASPHALT, YOU SAY IT'S WAY CHEAPER THAN CONCRETE THERE.
I, I THINK WHAT MIGHT BE COMING IN HERE, UM, AND I MIGHT BE SLIGHTLY MISREPRESENTED, I THINK THAT MIGHT BE TAKING IN, UH, SOME OF THE MILLING COST AS WELL.
'CAUSE WE HAD TO, WE HAD TO MILL AND HAUL OFF ALL THE OLD ASPHALT WAS THERE, NOT JUST THE OVERLAY WHERE ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, IT'S JUST MEANT TO BE THE TWO INCH OVERLAY, THE ASPHALT COST PURELY.
SO, BUT APOLOGIZE IF THAT ON THAT FRONT.
SO, BUT LIKE THE, THE CONCRETE, I MEAN, I GUESS OVERALL THE OVERALL STORY THOUGH IS IT'S STILL SUBSTANTIALLY CHEAPER TO DO ASPHALT THAN CONCRETE REPAIRS.
UH, AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT A LOT OF THINGS, LIKE WHEN WE COME INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, WE TYPICALLY DON'T DO A FULL, IF IT'S AN EXISTING CONCRETE STREET, WE'LL NORMALLY JUST DO A SMALL WEDGE MILL SO THAT THE ASPHALT MATCHES THE CONCRETE LEVEL, AND IF WE INSET IT JUST AT THE VERY EDGES, THEN WE JUST PUT TWO INCHES ON TOP OF THE CONCRETE.
SO THE, UH, KIND OF PREPARATORY COSTS ARE RATHER LOW, WHERE IF WE HAVE TO DO CONCRETE, IT'S FULL DEPTH REMOVAL OF THE CONCRETE HAUL OFF THAT OLD MATERIAL, PUT NEW REBAR IN AND POUR THE CONCRETE.
SO THAT COST IS SUBSTANTIALLY HIGHER.
AND, AND TIME-WISE, UM, THE REAL BENEFIT IN NEIGHBORHOODS, WE, WE CAN GET IN, DO THIS IN A VERY SHORT TIMELINE RELATIVE TO CONCRETE REPLACEMENT.
AND WE, WE CAN GET FOLKS BACK INTO THEIR DRIVEWAYS, UH, MAIL CARRIERS BACK TO DELIVERING MAIL AND TRASH COLLECTION IF IT'S AT THE STREET.
NICK, EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE AS WELL IN THE METRICS.
SO ONE IS A SQUARE YARD AND ONE IS A TON.
YEAH, NO, IT'S, I'M SORRY, KEN.
THERE, THERE'S, THERE'S A VARIETY OF METRIC OR MEASUREMENT UNITS UP HERE.
SO YOU GOT SQUARE FEET, SQUARE YARDS, TON, AND LINEAR FOOT.
SO IT'S NOT APPLES TO APPLES, UNFORTUNATELY.
UM, SLIDE EIGHT, PLEASE HAVE COUPLE QUESTIONS HERE.
SO I KNOW WE, BETWEEN LAST YEAR'S OR 2324
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VERSUS 24, 25 BUDGET, WE KIND OF FLIPPED THE FOCUS BETWEEN ARTERIAL STREETS AND COLLECTOR STREETS.UM, AND THEN IT APPEARS, WHAT'S THE OTHER BIG DIFFERENCE? NEIGHBORHOOD STREET REPAIR PROGRAM? THE BUDGET IS SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER.
THE PROPOSED BUDGET IS, UM, NOW LOOKING AT A $5 MILLION BUDGET COMPARED TO LAST YEAR.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, QUITE A BIT SMALLER.
IT IS HIGHER COMPARED TO PREVIOUS YEARS, PRIOR TO LAST YEAR.
WITH THAT SAID, THE COSTS HAVE ALSO INCREASED.
SO ARE WE CUTTING BUDGET HERE BECAUSE ALL THE LOW HANGING FRUIT HAVE BEEN TAKEN CARE OF? ARE WE BEING, UH, FISCALLY CONSERVATIVE HERE? ARE WE SAYING THAT WE, UH, SO LET ME AREN'T HAVING AS MANY ISSUES WITH, YEAH, WE'RE NOT CUTTING THE BUDGET.
LAST YEAR, AT THE END OF THE YEAR, WE HAD A, A A YEAR END, UH, SAVINGS, UM, AND UM, THAT WE WERE ABLE TO SWEEP INTO A RESERVE OF ABOUT $15 MILLION.
THE COUNCIL AT THAT TIME DECIDED TO DEVOTE $3.5 MILLION.
SO THE PENNY TAX IS NOT THE PENNY THAT WE'RE TRANSFERRING OUT FOUR STREETS AND FOUR ALL HASN'T CHANGED AT ALL.
IT WAS A ONE TIME INJECTION THAT WE PROPOSED WHEN WE PRESENTED THE FOURTH QUARTER BUDGET REPORT FOR FY 23, THAT WE WERE ABLE TO DO AN EXTRA NEIGHBORHOOD ZONE.
SO IF YOU WANTED TO KIND OF CONTROL FOR THIS, IF YOU WILL, YOU WOULD ACTUALLY NET OUT THE THREE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS FROM THE 5.5 WITH THE ASTERISK, BECAUSE IT'S NOT PENNY TAX FUNDED.
SO WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT PROPOSING TO REDUCE THE TRANSFER OUT FOR ALLEYS OR STREETS AT ALL FROM THE PENNY TAX.
I DON'T THINK WE'LL HAVE THE LUXURY OF A THREE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLAR, UH, TRANSFER IN, UM, FOR A ONETIME PROJECT THIS YEAR FOR VARIOUS REASONS THAT WE'LL DISCUSS, UH, IN A COUPLE WEEKS.
BUT, UM, IF YOU CONTROL FOR THE ONETIME TRANSFER, WE, IT'S, IT'S NET NEUTRAL.
THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES ARE A LITTLE DIFFERENT, BUT THE, THE TOTAL AS YOU SEE, UM, IS, UH, IS GONNA BE NET NEUTRAL.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR CLARIFICATION.
SO YOU HAVE NO MORE QUESTIONS, NICK, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
[8. PUBLIC HEARING, ZONING FILE 24-11, A REQUEST TO AMEND THE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS OF THE 62.5-ACRE CITYLINE-EAST PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF N. PLANO ROAD, BETWEEN E. CITYLINE DRIVE AND THE PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH TOLLWAY TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS, AND TO MODIFY THE REGULATING PLAN TO INCREASE THE ACREAGE OF MANDATORY AND MANDATORY/NON-MANDATORY OPEN SPACE. ]
THIS TIME WE'RE GONNA GO TO ITEM EIGHT, PUBLIC HEARING ZONING FILE 24 DASH 11 A REQUEST TO AMEND THE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS OF THE 62.5 ACRE CITY LINE EAST PD PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF NORTH PLANO ROAD BETWEEN EAST CITY LINE DRIVE AND THE PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH TOLLWAY.MAYOR COUNCIL, OUR DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, UH, SAM CHAVEZ IS HERE, UH, TO MAKE THE CITY PRESENTATION.
UH, THE APPLICANT IS ALSO HERE, UH, AND HAS A PRESENTATION, AND THEN I, I KNOW WE HAVE AT LEAST ONE SPEAKER FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND, UH, SO, UM, SUBSEQUENT TO THAT, UM, UH, AND YOU CAN HAVE, UH, YOU CAN CLOSE THE HEARING AND HAVE YOUR DELIBERATION.
SO SAM, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU FOR FURTHER BRIEFING.
UH, MR. MAGNER AND COUNCIL AND, AND MAYOR, UH, BEFORE WE GET STARTED ON THE ACTUAL REQUEST, UH, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS, IS PROVIDE YOU SOME VERY BASIC BACKGROUND INFORMATION.
AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SLIDE THERE, YOU SEE THE 2009 FUTURE LAND USE PLAN.
AND IF YOU FOCUS MORE ON THE ACTUAL AREA HERE, THAT'S REALLY DESIGNATED ON THE 2009, UH, FUTURE LAND USE PLAN IS REGIONAL EMPLOYMENT AND THAT REGIONAL EMPLOYMENT CALLS FOR HIGHER DENSITY DEVELOPMENT, HIGH RISE OFFICE, RETAIL CENTERS AND ENTERTAINMENT VENUES.
AND THE REASON I BRING THAT UP IS SIMPLY BECAUSE BACK IN 2014 WHEN THE SUBJECT SITE, WHICH IS THIS AREA HERE, WAS REZONED, THAT WAS THE FOUNDATION FOR THE REZONING ON THE PROPERTY TO MORE OF A TRANSIT VILLAGE DEVELOPMENT.
AS YOU CAN TELL IN THE 2009 PLAN, IT'S THERE CENTERED AROUND THE DART STATION AND ON THE PROPOSED FUTURE LAND USE PLAN THAT WE WILL TAKE UP HERE IN THE NEXT, UH, FEW MONTHS, YOU SEE THE TRANSIT VILLAGE BEING EXTENDED FROM 75 ALL THE WAY OVER TO WYNDHAM.
AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE OCCURRING ON THAT PROPERTY AND ALSO BASED ON THE FORM-BASED CODE.
SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE ACTUAL ZONING AND THE DIFFERENCES IN A TRADITIONAL TYPE OF ZONING, THE FOCUS ON A CONVENTIONAL ZONE IN A ZONING DISTRICT IS REALLY THE FOCUS IS ON USE AS OPPOSED TO OPERATIONS AND FORM THE COMPLETE OPPOSITE WITH THE FORM BASED CODE.
THE FOCUS IS ON FORM AND DESIGN WITH, WITH USE BEING A, A, A LESS CHARACTER WHEN YOU LOOK AT A FORM-BASED CODE, BECAUSE THAT FORM-BASED CODE LOOKS AT DENSITY, LOOKS AT SETBACKS, LOOKS AT THE AREA BETWEEN THE ACTUAL STRUCTURES FROM, UH, WHAT WE CALL THE, THE, UH, PUBLIC REALM.
SO THAT'S THE SIDEWALKS, THE, THE PEDESTRIAN CORRIDORS, PARKING, UH, PARKING, CONFIGURATION,
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LANDSCAPING.SO AS LONG AS THAT'S INTACT, UH, THE ACTUAL USE, THOUGH IT MAY BE IMPORTANT, IT'S NOT AS, AS IMPORTANT AS THE ACTUAL FORM THAT THAT OCCURS IN.
SO UNDER THE CODE ITSELF, A FORM-BASED CODE, IT PROVIDES THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO RESPOND TO MARKET DEMANDS IN AN EXPEDIENT AND PREDICTABLE MANNER IN TERMS OF STREAMLINED STAFF LEVEL APPROVALS AND THE FLEXIBILITY TO ALLOW MIX OF USES IN THE BUILDINGS AS MARKETS SHIFT IN THE FUTURE.
AND THAT'S, I THINK THE PREDOMINANT THEME HERE IS THAT IT ALLOWS THOSE MARKETS AND THOSE USES, UH, TO COINCIDE.
THIS IS WHAT WE AS STAFF CONSIDER TO BE.
AND MANY OF YOU CONSIDER, UH, TO BE CITYLINE.
AND THAT REALLY STARTS ON THE WEST SIDE OF THIS, UH, OF THIS LARGE, UH, DEVELOPMENT.
IT STARTS AT 75 AND GOES ALL THE WAY EAST OVER TO WYNDHAM.
AS YOU CAN TELL, IT'S REALLY BROKEN UP INTO, I WANNA SAY FOUR, UM, AND I'M GONNA CALL 'EM SUBDISTRICT OR SUB AREAS.
YOU HAVE CITY LINE WEST AND YOU CAN SEE THE, UH, THE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE OCCURRED, UH, ON THAT PROPERTY.
YOU HAVE CITY LINE, UH, AND ALSO, UM, THE, UH, TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE OCCURRED.
YOU'VE GOT CITY LINE EAST AND CITY LINE EAST, AND THE REASON I LABELED 'EM BOTH CITY LINE EAST IS BECAUSE THE LARGER PORTION OF CITY LINE EAST WAS ORIGINALLY THIS ENTIRE AREA.
SO THROUGH THE YEARS, THROUGH SEVERAL AMENDMENTS THAT STARTED IN 20, IN 2014, WITH ESTABLISHMENT OF ACTUALLY CITY LINE EAST, UH, THERE HAVE BEEN NUMEROUS AMENDMENTS, UH, TO THAT CODE IN ORDER TO POS UH, TO POSITION THAT PROPERTY TO, UH, TO SUCCEED.
SO NOW TO THE ACTUAL APPLICATION, THE, UH, CITY LINE EAST IS LOCATED BETWEEN CITY LINE DRIVE AND PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH HIGHWAY EAST OF PLANO ROAD.
UH, THE CURRENT ZONING IS A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT UNDER A FORM-BASED CODE.
UH, THE REQUEST, UH, IS TO AMEND THE PD TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS AND TO AMEND THE REGULATING PLAN TO INCREASE THE ACREAGE OF MANDATORY CIVIC, UH, OPEN SPACE AREAS AND THE, AND THE, UH, MANDATORY AND NON-MANDATORY CIVIC OPEN SPACE CATEGORIES AND WE'LL, AND WE'LL DISCUSS THOSE SHORTLY.
BUT THIS IS THE FIRST PORTION OF THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT.
AND THAT, AND THAT REQUEST WOULD INCREASE THE NUMBER OF MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE RESIDENTIAL UNITS FROM 1,925 UNITS TO 3,100 UNITS.
AND THAT WOULD, UH, INCREASE THAT BY 1,175 UNITS.
IN DOING SO, THEY WOULD ALSO INCREASE THE MINIMUM DENSITY FROM 30 UNITS TO THE ACRE TO 60 UNITS TO THE ACRE.
NOW, ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY ITSELF OF CITY LINE EAST, THERE, THERE ARE THREE MULTIFAMILY SITES THAT HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED, AND THEY ALL EXCEED THE, THE MINIMUM 60, UH, TOTAL UNITS, UH, PER ACRE, THAT THAT IS CURRENTLY PROPOSED.
AND ALL, UH, CITY LINE AND CITY LINE EAST, UH, WOULD HAVE A TOTAL OF 5,100 ALLOWED UNITS.
AND OF THOSE, UH, 5,100 UH, UNITS, UH, 2,174 UNITS HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED, UH, TO THIS POINT, WHICH ACCOUNTS FOR ABOUT 43% OF, OF THE ALLOWABLE NUMBER OF UNITS IN, IN BOTH THOSE SECTORS.
THE SECOND PART OF THE REQUEST IS TO AMEND THE THE APPROVED REGULATING PLAN.
THE APPROVED REG REGULATING PLAN IS, IS IDEALLY THE, THE ZONING MAP.
UM, FOR THIS, UH, FORM BASED CODE, IT HAS TWO SECTIONS.
THE NORTHERN SECTION IS A TOD CORE.
IT DOES HAVE A MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE HEIGHT OF 350 FEET, AND THEN THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE, OF THAT TRACK IS DESIGNATED AS, UH, TOD MIXED USE.
AND IT HAS A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 225 FEET.
UH, YOU NOTICE, UH, YOU NOTICE THE CENTRAL SPINE OF THIS HAS THIS KIND OF, UH, OPEN SPACE AREA HERE.
AND THE REASON I'VE POINTED OUT POINTS A AND B AND C AND D IS 'CAUSE THERE ARE CURRENTLY GAPS IN IT.
SO AS PART OF THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT, UH, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO, TO INCREASE THE, UH, 100% CIVIC OPEN SPACE AREA FROM 6.44 ACRES TO 6.6 ACRES.
NOW, THE ONE CAVEAT TO THIS IS THAT THIS REGULATING PLAN SHOWS YOU THE EXACT AMOUNT OF THE MANDATORY, THE 100% MANDATORY THAT IS ALREADY PROVIDED ON SITE AS OPPOSED TO THE PREVIOUS PLAN, WHICH IS PRIOR TO ANY DEVELOPMENT HAPPENING.
SO THAT WAS JUST A, A GOAL, UH, AS FAR AS THE NUMBER OF ACRES THAT WOULD BE PROVIDED.
SO THE DARK GREEN ACTUALLY PROVIDES THE ACTUAL AMOUNT THAT IS PROVIDED ON SITE, AND THAT'S AT 6.6 ACRES.
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UH, MANDATORY, 40% NON-MANDATORY.UH, THAT, AND THAT'S THE LIGHTER GREEN AREAS.
AND AS YOU CAN TELL FROM THE PREVIOUS ONE, THEY DID CLOSE A GAP BETWEEN A AND B AND C AND D BY, BY CREATING THIS CONTINUOUS KIND OF OPEN SPACE, UH, AREA.
UH, AND THAT ALSO SHOWS THIS AREA ACTUALLY SHOWS A 60% OF, OF THE PROPOSED 4.6 ACRES, UH, THAT WILL BE PROVIDED ON SITE.
SO ITEMS TO CONSIDER, UH, WITH THIS REQUEST, UH, THIS REQUEST IS FOR 1,175 ADDITIONAL UNITS AND RESULTS IN, UH, IN ADDITIONAL MORE OR IN ADDITIONAL, UH, MORE CONTINUOUS OPEN SPACE.
UH, NO TRAFFIC IMPACT WOULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH ADDITIONAL UNITS WHICH, UH, ARE OFFSET, UH, DURING THE A AND PM PEAK, UH, TRAFFIC TIMES ASSOCIATED WITH NON-RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, OTHER NON-RESIDENTIAL USES, OFFICE RETAIL SALES AND SERVICE ARTS, ENTERTAINMENT, RECREATION, EDUCATION, EDUCATION, HEALTHCARE ARE ALLOWED BY A RIGHT TODAY AND WOULD CONTINUE TO BE ALLOWED BY A RIGHT.
UH, THE ADDITIONAL UNITS BRING CITY LINE, WHICH IS A TOTAL OF, UH, 5,100 UNITS IN PARITY WITH THE NUMBER OF, WITH THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS AT LEG AT LEGACY.
AND THAT'S THE ENTIRE, THAT THAT FOUR CORRIDOR THERE ON THE TOLL LANE AND LEGACY, WHICH HAS, UH, LITTLE OVER 5,200, UH, RESIDENTIAL UNITS DEVELOPED ON SITE RIGHT NOW.
AND OF COURSE, NORTHSIDE, UH, WHICH HAS A, UH, ENTITLEMENT OF, UH, A LITTLE OVER 5,200 UNITS.
SO THEY'RE COMPARABLE IN, IN SIZE AND, AND, AND, AND RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
AND, UH, THE ADDITIONAL RESIDENTIAL UNITS ADHERE TO THE TRANSIT ORIENTED NATURE OF THE DEVELOPMENT, UH, WHICH IS A TOD AND INCREASES ITS MIXED USE CHARACTER NOW AND IN THE FUTURE.
UM, TO CAPITALIZE ON THE PROXIMITY OF THE DART RAIL LINE, IT ALSO PROMOTES THE SUCCESSFUL EXPANSION OF THE DEVELOPMENT EASTWARD ACROSS PLANO ROAD WHILE MAINTAINING A PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED COMPACT MIS MIXED USE ENVIRONMENT WITH CONVENIENT ACCESS TO, TO RAIL TRANSIT, SHOPPING, EMPLOYMENT, HOUSING, AND REGIONAL RETAIL SERVICES.
AND FINALLY, AS RETAIL OFFICE AND ENTERTAINMENT MARKETS, UH, CONTINUE TO ADJUST TO POST PANDEMIC MARKET FORCES, ADDITIONAL RESIDENTIAL UNITS, INTEN INTENSIFY THE LIVE WORK PLAY NATURE OF CITY LINE, HELPING TO SUPPORT EXISTING OFFICE AND RETAIL USES WHILE ELEVATING THE SITE TO CORPORATE AND RETAIL RELOCATION DECISION MAKERS, WHICH ARE CURRENTLY NOT SUPPORTED BY THE MARKET.
THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION, UH, CONSIDERED THIS REQUEST AT THEIR JULY 2ND MEETING.
UH, THERE IS ONE LETTER IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST AND IT'S IN YOUR PACKET.
UH, THERE IS NO SPEAKERS EITHER IN SUPPORT OR IN OPPOSITION TO THE REQUEST THAT EVENING, AND I BELIEVE YOU HAVE RECEIVED COPIES OF SOME, UH, COMMENT CARDS, UH, RELATED TO THIS ISSUE.
UH, THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION VOTED FIVE TWO TO RECOMMEND DENIAL OF THE REQUEST AS PRESENTED, UM, AS A RESULT OF THE COMMISSION'S ACTION, UH, FOR DENIAL, A SUPER MAJORITY VOTE BY CITY COUNCIL OR SIX AFFIRMATIVE VOTES WILL, WILL BE REQUIRED TO APPROVE THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST THIS EVENING.
UH, SHOULD, UH, CITY COUNCIL APPROVE THE REQUEST, THE MOTION, UH, SHOULD INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING.
THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF UNITS SHALL BE, UH, 3,100 UNITS, UH, CONSTRUCTED AT A MINIMUM DENSITY OF 60 UNITS TO THE ACRE.
AND THAT THE REGULATING PLAN, WHICH IS EXHIBIT A, UH, SHALL INDICATE 6.6 ACRES OF 100% MANDATORY CIVIC OPEN SPACE AREA AND 4.64 ACRES OF 60%, 40% NON-MANDATORY, UH, CIVIC OPEN SPACE AREA.
WITH THAT, UH, I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY, UH, FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
AND OF COURSE, THE APPLICANT IS HERE AS WELL.
COUNSEL, ANY QUESTIONS FOR SAM? OKAY.
OKAY, MR. CHU, UH, IF YOU CAN EXPLAIN ONE THING, UH, YOU KNOW, HAVING OPEN SPACE THAT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, 6.4 VERSUS 6.6 PROPOSED, UH, I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND ALL THIS, THAT GOING BEYOND EXPECTATION, IS THAT STILL SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD NEED COUNCIL'S APPROVAL? THIS IS TYPICAL OF THIS DEVELOPMENT IN THAT THEY'VE EXCEEDED OUR EXPECTATIONS AND THEY DID.
SO IT'S A MINOR, BUT IT, BUT IT PLAYS A MAJOR ROLE IN THE WHOLE CONCEPT OF A TOD AND A
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FORM-BASED CODE.UH, AND THAT IS REALLY IN THE, IN THE REQUIRED OPEN SPACE AREAS.
UH, SO THEY, YOU KNOW, SO THEY, THEY'VE EXCEEDED THAT EXPECTATION.
THE PREVIOUS OR THE CURRENT REGULATING PLAN, WHICH IS THIS ONE, WAS MORE AN IDEA OF THIS IS HOW MUCH WE MAY PROVIDE.
WHILE THIS SHOWS YOU WHAT THEY EITHER HAVE OR WILL PROVIDE.
SO IF THIS WAS THE ONLY THINGS ON THE CASE, WOULD THEY STILL NEED TO COME TO THE COUNCIL? OR THIS COULD BE DONE INTERNALLY? THIS COULD BE INTERNALLY.
AND IF YOU CAN EXPLAIN AGAIN THAT MANDATORY VERSUS NON-MANDATORY.
SO MANDATORY OF COURSE, MEANS THEY WILL, THEY ARE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE, IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, UNDER THIS HEADING 100% OF THAT 6.6 ACRES, WHICH THEY ALREADY HAVE UNDER THE CIVIC OPEN SPACE, UNDER THE 60% MANDATORY, 40% NON-MANDATORY, 60% OF THAT, OR 2.78 ACRES, THEY ARE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE THE BALANCE OF IT, WHICH IS 1.86 IS REALLY AT THEIR DISCRETION.
NOW, I CAN TELL YOU BASED ON HOW THE PROPERTY HAS DEVELOPED AND THE, AND THE SITE PLANS THAT WE REVIEW FOR THE, FOR THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENTS, THEY ALWAYS EXCEED THE MANDA, THE, UH, I'M SORRY, THE, UH, NON-MANDATORY PORTION OF IT.
SO THEY'RE PROVIDING MORE OF THE NON-MANDATORY THAN, OKAY, THAT'S, THAT'S GREAT.
SO WITH THAT, UH, THAT MEANS YOU ARE GIVING A MINIMUM NUMBER AND THEN A MAXIMUM NUMBER THEY CAN GO WITH MAG MINIMUM.
SO THEY'RE EXCEEDING THE MINIMUM ANYWAY WITH THE PROPOSED, CORRECT.
UH, SO SO THAT'S NOT IMPACTING, THE PROPOSED CHANGE IS NOT IMPACTING ANYTHING ON OUR, UH, OPEN SPACE AREA? THAT'S CORRECT.
SAM, CAN YOU PLEASE FOR THOSE, UH, WATCHING AT HOME WHO MAY BE QUESTIONING WHY, IF THIS WAS DENIED BY CPC, IT'S COME TO THE COUNCIL, CAN YOU KIND OF EXPLAIN AN APPLICANT'S OPTIONS AND HOW THAT GOES FROM THEM TO, TO US, MY SUBMISSION OF THOSE MEETINGS AND THE MINUTES THEMSELVES? UH, I BELIEVE THE MORE OF THE PROCESS, SORRY SAM, I'M SORRY.
JUST KIND OF THE PROCESS, HOW THAT COMES TO US.
LIKE WHAT, UM, YOU KNOW, DO THEY HAVE TO APPEAL? WHAT, WHAT'S OKAY.
SO ON JULY 2ND, THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED, UH, DENIAL OF THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST.
UH, TYPICALLY WHAT HAPPENS IF THE APPLICANT CHOOSES HE CAN APPEAL THEIR RECOMMENDATION TO COUNSEL AND THEY HAVE 10 DAYS.
THEY HAVE 10 DAYS, UH, TO APPEAL THAT DECISION IN WRITING, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE A COPY OF THE APPLICANT'S, UH, APPEAL, UH, OF THAT RECOMMENDATION.
THAT RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL BY THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE REQUIRES COUNSEL TO, UH, VOTE IN THE AFFIRMATIVE, UH, TO WHAT WE COIN A SUPER MAJORITY, A SIX TO ONE VOTE AT A MINIMUM IN ORDER TO OVERTURN THAT RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL BY THE COMMISSION.
SO THAT'S HOW THIS CASE, UH, WAS, UH, BROUGHT TO YOUR, UH, OR BROUGHT FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
UM, SAM, REAL QUICK, CAN YOU, UH, GO BACK TO, TO SLIDE FOUR PLEASE? CAN YOU JUST, THERE'S, YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE IT ON, ON THIS SCREEN, BUT THAT PURPLE SECTION DOWN THERE, UH, PARCEL K, CAN YOU JUST, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WENT OVER THIS EARLIER OR NOT, BUT CAN YOU JUST ELABORATE THAT'S ON, ON THAT PARCEL SPECIFICALLY? JUST, UM, I GUESS IS IT, I'M SORRY.
I'M TRYING TO THINK WHAT I WANNA UNDERSTAND ABOUT THAT.
UM, JUST, YOU KNOW, HOW DOES IT, IT'S KIND OF MORE REMOVED FROM THE REST OF THE CITY LINE CAMPUS.
UH, IS THAT, I GUESS IF ALL THE UNITS BASED ON, BASED ON EVERYTHING YOU'VE SEEN, IF ALL THE UNITS WERE TO BE BUILT MM-HMM.
WHEN THIS ENTIRE SITE WAS ORIGINALLY ZONED, IT LIMITED ALL, ANY, ANY AND ALL RESIDENTIAL TO THIS QUADRANT.
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SO THAT'S WHERE THE MULTIFAMILY WOULD BE BUILT AND COULD ONLY BE BUILT.NOW THIS PORTION OF IT HAS A, A SINGLE FAMILY COMPONENT TO IT.
SO IN ORDER TO GET THAT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPED BEHIND THE CVS, THEY HAD TO ACTUALLY AMEND THAT PD TO ALLOW SINGLE FAMILY DETACH.
AND I BELIEVE THERE ARE 52 UNITS.
UH, NO, THERE ARE 32 SINGLE FAMILY UNITS IN THAT VERY CORNER THERE OF FOXBOROUGH AND CITY LINE EAST.
BUT ALL THE, ANY OTHER RESIDENTIALS LIMITED TO THESE BLUE AREAS HERE AND, AND CITY LINE.
AND THEN I WAS HOPING FOR JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE CONTEXT FROM, UM, EITHER YOU OR, UH, DAWN, JUST ABOUT SOME OF THE CURRENT, UH, ALLOWED USES THAT HAVE BEEN, BEEN TALKED ABOUT FOR SORT OF THE TRADE OFFS FOR MORE JUST DENSITY WITH APARTMENTS VERSUS, UM, THINGS LIKE MORE, UH, MORE CLASS A OFFICE SPACE OR SORT OF, UH, MORE NON-RETAIL TYPE RECREATIONAL OR ENTERTAINMENT VENUES OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
I MEAN, WHAT, WITHIN THE BROADER CONTEXT OF THE CITY OF RICHARDSON, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS SORT OF THE OUTLOOK, UM, BOTH REGIONALLY AND IN THE CITY ON PLACES LIKE THAT? I MEAN, DO WE HAVE A LOT OF VACANT SORT OF VACANT BUILDINGS OF THAT ALREADY OR RIGHT.
YOU KNOW, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT IF IT WERE PUT HERE, YOU WOULD SAY LIKE, WOULD REALLY RELY ON JUST THE DENSITY HERE TO, TO OPERATE? UM, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WHAT, WHAT'S YOUR TAKE ON THAT? SURE.
WELL, I WOULD, UM, I WOULD SAY, UM, WHEN IT COMES TO CITY LINE, WHETHER WE'RE, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO RECRUIT THE NEXT CORPORATE BUILD A SUIT OR WE'RE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, RECRUIT AN, AN ENTERTAINMENT VENUE, UM, PROBABLY THE, THE BIGGEST PIECE OF FEEDBACK THAT WE GET IS, UH, THERE'S A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY AROUND CITYLINE WITH RESPECT TO THE FUTURE.
BECAUSE THE PLAN THAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU TODAY, UH, WAS PREDICATED, UM, ON OFFICE CONTINUING TO THRIVE.
AND, YOU KNOW, AS SAM SAM'S MENTIONED, 2014, HE'S MENTIONED 2013, HE'S MENTIONED 2015, THOSE ARE ALL PRE COVID.
WE LIVE IN A VERY DIFFERENT REAL ESTATE WORLD THAN WE DID, UM, YOU KNOW, PRIOR TO THE PANDEMIC.
AND SO I THINK WHAT, UM, WE HEAR MORE OFTEN IS, UM, YOU KNOW, THE NEXT CORPORATE, UH, TENANT THAT WE RECRUIT FOR A BUILD TO SUIT THERE WANTS MORE ASSURITY AROUND WHAT CITY LINE WILL BE AND THAT IT'LL ACTUALLY BE COMPLETED.
UM, AND SO, UM, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE PROS OF THE PLAN THAT'S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS IT, IT CREATES A PATH FORWARD THAT'S BASED IN MARKET REALITY.
AND THAT, UM, DEVELOPERS OR OR CORPORATIONS LOOKING TO MOVE TO NORTH TEXAS AND TO RICHARDSON WILL SEE A PLAN THAT CAN COME TO FRUITION.
THEY'LL SEE A REALISTIC PLAN THAT CAN COME TO FRUITION.
UM, I THINK WHAT, WHAT WE HEAR FROM THE, ON THE CORPORATE SIDE, COUNCILMAN, IS, UM, THEY WANT TO SEE MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES TO LIVE CLOSE TO WORK.
UH, EVEN WITH 2,400 UNITS, WHATEVER IT IS THAT SAM MENTIONED THERE, THE OCCUPANCY IS IN THE HIGH NINETIES NOW.
YOU JUST HAVE TO DRIVE AROUND.
IT'S, IT'S NOT A SURPRISE TO ANY, IT WON'T BE A SURPRISE TO ANYBODY.
SO IF A CORPORATION LOCATED THERE RIGHT NOW, UM, THERE, THEY, THEY WANNA BE ASSURED THERE ARE GONNA BE MORE, UM, UM, OPTIONS, MORE HOUSING OPTIONS FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES TO LIVE CLOSE BY.
'CAUSE THAT'S IMPORTANT TO THE, THE KIND OF YOUNG TALENT THAT THEY'RE SEEKING NOWADAYS.
UM, THE OTHER THING I WOULD SAY, UM, IS THAT THEY WANNA MAKE SURE, UM, THAT THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE LOCATED IN THE MIDDLE OF A FIELD FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS.
AND SO THAT'S A LOT OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'RE GETTING FROM THE CORPORATIONS ON THE, ON THE ENTERTAINMENT SIDE.
IT'S NOT A CHICKEN OR AN EGG ARGUMENT.
'CAUSE IT'S, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT, YOU'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT GONNA ATTRACT ENTERTAINMENT AND THEN HAVE THE BEDS COME.
IT'S JUST NOT HOW IT'S GONNA WORK IN THIS REALITY.
THEATERS ARE DRAMATICALLY DIFFERENT THAN THEY WERE PRE COVID.
AND SO WHAT WE HEAR FROM THE ENTERTAINMENT, UM, SECTOR IS THAT THEY WANT TO SEE MORE PEOPLE WALKING AROUND.
THEY WANNA SEE MORE PEOPLE COMING DOWN FOR LUNCH.
THEY WANNA SEE MORE, UM, ACTIVITY.
AND THE WAY TO DO THAT IS TO KIND OF CREATE THE DENSITY THAT WE SEE AT OTHER, OTHER, UH, SUCCESSFUL, UM, LOCATIONS.
UM, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THE TWO EXAMPLES THAT WE TRIED TO PROVIDE, ONE THAT'S ALREADY BEEN ENTITLED HERE IN RICHARDSON, AND ONE THAT'S ENTITLED, UH, OR ONE, ONE THAT'S, UH, UH, I THINK A BEACON OF WHAT EVERYBODY HOPES TO BE
AND SO, YOU KNOW, I I DON'T THINK IT'S, I THINK IT WOULD BE A, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT WOULD BE A STRETCH TO SAY THAT THIS WOULD BE A SILVER BULLET, BUT IT'S AN IMPORTANT PIECE, UM,
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THAT WE CAN GO OUT AND MARKET.UM, IF, IF, UM, IF IT, IF, IF THE, UM, COUNCIL DETERMINES THAT THAT'S THE BEST COURSE OF ACTION, THAT'D BE AN IMPORTANT PIECE THAT WE WOULD MARKET BOTH TO THE CORPORATE SEGMENT AND TO THE ENTERTAINMENT SEGMENT.
ARE THERE ANY, I MEAN, YOU'VE MENTIONED A LOT OF CONS BETWEEN THIS PRESENTATION AND, AND THAT, OR SORRY, PROS.
UM, BUT MY QUESTION WAS, ARE THERE, WHAT'S THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT? I MEAN, FROM A SORT OF A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, ARE THERE ANY CONS TO A DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS OR, OR GOING IN THIS DIRECTION? WELL, IF WE, IF FROM AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT, I DON'T SEE A CON.
UM, I SEE IT AS A BENEFIT TO BE ABLE TO GO OUT AND HAVE ANOTHER, UM, ANGLE TO MARKET.
I MEAN, WE'RE IN AN INCREDIBLY COMPETITIVE REGION.
WE'RE COMPETING, UM, FOR A A AGAINST LITERALLY, YOU KNOW, A DOZEN CITIES EVERY TIME THE DALLAS REGIONAL CHAMBER IS CONTACTED BY A POTENTIAL RELOCATION.
AND, UH, THIS WOULD ONLY, IN MY OPINION, THIS WOULD ONLY MAKE OUR JOBS NOT EASY, BUT EASIER
UM, TO BE ABLE TO GO OUT AND HELP DIFFERENTIATE, WE HAVE TO DIFFERENTIATE RICHARDSON AND WE HAVE TO DIFFERENTIATE CITY LINE FROM OTH THE MANY, MANY OTHER OPTIONS IN NORTH TEXAS.
AND, UH, HOUSING IS A, IS A KEY COMPONENT TO THAT.
AND, UM, I THINK THAT, UM, HAVING A CITY LINE WHERE 2,500 UNITS ARE ALREADY IN THE HIGH NINETIES, UH, COMPANIES ARE WONDERING WHERE WILL THE EMPLOYEES LIVE? OKAY.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER THING I'LL SAY IS FROM AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT, YOU KNOW, DART IS A BIG PART OF THAT STRATEGY.
UM, WE, THERE'S A LOT OF CHATTER, UM, IN THE REGION RIGHT NOW ABOUT DART, UM, BRINGING THESE ADDITIONAL, UM, RESIDENTS TO CITYLINE, UM, CAN POTENTIALLY, UM, INCREASE THE NUMBER OF RIDERS ON THE RED LINE OR THE SILVER LINE.
IT CAN, IT'S GOT ONE OF THE MOST POTENT BUS ROUTES IN ALL OF THE DART SYSTEM, UH, IS CONNECTED TO CITY LINE.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S JUST AGAIN, LEVERAGING DART EVEN FURTHER AND, AND HOPEFULLY INCREASING, UH, THE RIDERSHIP ON DART BY POTENTIALLY BRINGING RESIDENTS TO THIS, TO THIS DEVELOPMENT.
THANK YOU MAYOR SAM, I, I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR ON A COUPLE THINGS.
AT, IN THE EVENT IT TAKES, LET'S SAY TWO OR THREE YEARS FOR KDC TO DEVELOP THIS PROPERTY, BY APPROVING THIS, IT DOES NOT CHANGE THE FACT THAT IT JUST ADDS ANOTHER LAYER OF AN OPTION THAT THEY CAN HAVE.
THAT MEANS THEY CAN STILL DEVELOP OFFICE, UH, THEY CAN STILL DEVELOP MULTIFAMILY, THEY CAN STILL DEVELOP RETAIL.
SO IN, WHEN THE TIME COMES TWO OR THREE YEARS FROM NOW, WHENEVER IT GETS DEVELOPED IN THE EVENT THE MARKET CHANGES AND IT'S MORE SUSTAINABLE TO EITHER OF THOSE, THEY WILL STILL HAVE THE OPTION TO DO THAT.
IS THAT CORRECT? OR IS THIS LOCKING US INTO A SPECIFIC TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT? NO, THEY WILL STILL HAVE THAT OPTION.
THAT OPTION WILL ALWAYS BE AVAILABLE, AVAILABLE TO THEM.
AND THAT'S THE BEAUTY IN A, IN A FORM-BASED CODE THAT IT LETS YOU ADJUST TO THE MARKET CONDITIONS.
SO MULTI-FAMILY OFFICE, RETAIL SERVICE INDUSTRIES, EDUCATIONAL FACILITY, THOSE USES WILL ALWAYS BE AVAILABLE.
SO THIS JUST ADDS THAT ONE ADDITIONAL ELEMENT THERE, GIVING THEM ALL THOSE OPTIONS.
AND WILL THEY NEED TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL, UH, FOR ANY ADDITIONAL APPROVAL, UH, WHEN THE DEVELOPMENT STARTS? 'CAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHEN THE DEVELOPMENT'S STARTING, CORRECT? UH, NO SIR.
UH, THEY, THEY WOULD, THEY WOULD SUBMIT THEIR DEVELOPMENT PLANS THROUGH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND WE WOULD, AND WE WOULD, UH, REVIEW THESE BASED ON THE FORM-BASED CODE.
AND THEN WE WOULD, WE WOULD ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVE THOSE.
AND IT'S A PRETTY STREAMLINED, UH, PROCESS ONCE THEY MEET THE CODE.
AND PREDOMINANTLY, YOU KNOW, 95% OF THOSE OF THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENTS HAVE MET THEM.
UH, THEY DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO ASK FOR MINOR MODIFICATIONS, UH, TO THE CODE THAT WE AS STAFF CAN ALSO APPROVE.
AND THOSE ARE TYPICALLY, UH, PHYSICAL, UH, PROPERTY HARDSHIPS THAT THEY CAN'T QUITE MEET THE CODE, BUT THEY MEET THE INTENT.
AND, AND THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF MINOR, MINOR MODIFICATIONS THAT WE APPROVE.
WELL, IN THE EVENT THAT SOMETHING ELSE IS CHOSEN, WILL THAT AFFECT ANY OF THE COMMENTS BASE? NO, SIR.
WITH THE NEW INCREASE? YES, SIR.
UM, DONNA, I'M CURIOUS WHEN, UH, OUR FIRE SERVICES MASTER PLAN AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS, THIS IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY DOESN'T CHANGE THINGS, BUT WHEN, YOU KNOW, HAVE, HAVE WE TALKED TO OUR POLICE AND FIRE ABOUT THIS AND THEY INCREASED UNITS AND HEADS AND BEDS AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS, AND THE POTENTIAL IMPACT, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE.
WHEN WE SEE THESE, THAT'S SOMETHING GOING FORWARD I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AS PART OF THESE PRESENTATIONS.
SO WHAT, UM, WHAT CONVERSATIONS HAVE YOU HAD? ARE THERE ANY CONCERNS, UH, FROM A PUBLIC SAFETY STANDPOINT? UH,
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THERE ARE, THERE ARE NOT, UM, YOU KNOW, FROM, FROM THE POLICE STANDPOINT, UM, YOU HAVE, UM, IN, IN TERMS OF THE DENSITY THAT YOU COULD HAVE WITH ANOTHER POTENTIAL, YOU KNOW, 202, WHAT IS IT, 2 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE OVERALL, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT FEWER PEOPLE THAN YOU WOULD FROM, FROM, FROM AN OFFICE DEVELOPMENT LIKE THAT.AND ON THE FIRE SIDE, I MEAN THE, THE FIRE CODE IS, IS, UM, UH, REQUIRES, YOU KNOW, SUPPRESSION SYSTEMS, IT REQUIRES ALARM SYSTEMS. AND SO, UM, THE CONSTRUCTION TODAY THAT THE, THE QUALITY IN THE STANDARD IS, IS JUST SO MUCH HIGHER.
UM, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE, ON THE FIRE SIDE IT'S, IT'S REALLY EMS THAT THAT'S 80% OF THE CALLS.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S QUITE, QUITE TIME CONSUMING TO RESPOND TO A, YOU KNOW, A PERSON THAT MAY BE HAVING CHEST PAINS IN AN OFFICE BUILDING WHERE ON THE, THEY'RE ON THE 18TH FLOOR VERSUS, YOU KNOW, AN APARTMENT BUILDING WHERE THEY MAY BE ON THE THIRD FLOOR.
AND SO FROM A TIMING STANDPOINT, UM, IT, IT'S ACTUALLY, UM, MORE, IT'S ACTUALLY BENEFICIAL TO HAVE THE RESIDENTIAL VERSUS, VERSUS THE OFFICE.
I MEAN, WE, IT IS, IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A, IT, AND CHIEF VY CAN RATTLE IT OFF THE TOP OF HIS HEAD, BUT IT'S, IT TAKES QUITE, UM, QUITE, UH, LONGER TO RESPOND IN, YOU KNOW, IN AN OFFICE ENVIRONMENT FOR INSTANCE, THAN IN A RESIDENTIAL ENVIRONMENT.
SO, UM, BOTH, UH, BOTH PD AND, AND, UH, FIRE WERE, AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW, UM, TEAM THAT LOOKED AT, UM, THIS AS PART OF THE PRE-SUBMIT SUBMITTAL, UM, UM, PROCESS.
AND NEITHER HAD ANY CONCERNS WITH THE CHANGES.
MR. SAMHILL, YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION? YEAH, I GET, UH, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.
I HAVE, UH, JUST A COUPLE MORE QUESTION.
UH, NOW ON THIS, UH, I SEE THAT THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT, YOU HAVE 300 PLUS FEET ON ONE PORTION AND 200 PLUS ON OTHER SIDE, RIGHT? 225 AND 350 FEET.
UH, NOW THERE IS A RESTRICTION FOR RESIDENTIAL TO BE, I'M NOT SAYING THAT 350 FEET, BUT THEY COULD GO TALL BUILDING, RIGHT? UH, I MEAN, IT'S UP TO THEM HOW THEY WOULD APPROACH.
UH, SO NOW, PREVIOUSLY, UH, WHAT I MEAN NOW THAT YOU'RE ASKING, UH, THE REQUEST IS THAT 1000 PLUS ADDITIONAL UNIT, UH, NOW THERE IS NO RESTRICTION, LIKE THREE, THREE STORY OR FIVE STORY.
THERE WAS NO RESTRICTION IN THE PAST EITHER, RIGHT? THAT, THAT IS CORRECT.
SO, UH, DID THE, DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA THAT, WHAT WAS THE PREVIOUS IDEA OR PLAN THAT HAVING, YOU KNOW, WAS, WAS THAT LIKE THREE STORY BUILDING OR FIVE STORY BUILDING? WAS THAT PREVIOUS PLAN? I KNOW I HEARD THAT THE NEW PLAN IS ABOUT FIBER STORY BUILDING, RIGHT? WELL, THE MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT WAS ESTABLISHED WITH THE, UH, FORM-BASED CODE FOR CITY LINE EAST, UH, WITH THE INTENT THAT IT WOULD NOT RESTRICT THE HEIGHT ON ANY STRUCTURE, MEANING THESE COULD BE OFFICE TOWERS, IT COULD BE RESIDENTIAL TOWERS, AND WE DIDN'T WANT TO GET INTO TRYING TO SET THAT LIMIT.
SO WE SET THE HIGHER HEIGHT LIMIT ADJACENT TO THE TOLLWAY, AND THEN WE STARTED TO STEP THIS DOWN, UH, YOU KNOW, TO A MAXIMUM OF 2, 225 FEET.
NOW, THE THREE MULTI-FAMILY UNITS THAT ARE DEV CURRENTLY DEVELOPED ON SITE ARE DEVELOPED, UH, IN THIS AREA HERE IN THIS AREA.
AND THOSE ARE ALL FIVE STORIES IN HEIGHT.
UH, THEY'RE PROBABLY AT ABOUT 85 TO 90 FEET IN, IN, IN, IN HEIGHT.
THE, THE ONLY FOUR STORY UNITS THAT WERE CONSTRUCTED WERE CONSTRUCTED BY ZEAL CORSON.
IT WAS NOT PART OF THE, THE, THE, UM, UH, CITY LINE DEVELOPMENT PER SE.
THOSE WERE THE FOUR STORIES THAT RUN ESSENTIALLY A LONG RUNNER BETWEEN PLANO ROAD AND, AND THE DART LINE.
SUBSEQUENT TO THAT, UM, WE ACTUALLY PUSHED AND ENCOURAGED, UH, FOR THE FIVE STORY CONSTRUCTION, THAT'S THE MAXIMUM YOU CAN GO AND STILL USE, UH, TYPE FOUR CONSTRUCTION.
SO TO MY KNOWLEDGE, ALL OF THE SUBSEQUENT APARTMENT BUILDINGS WERE CONSTRUCTED WITH A PODIUM ON THE FIRST FLOOR, ANYWHERE FROM 18 TO 20 FEET, AND THEN FOUR STORIES ABOVE.
UM, SAM, MAYBE WE CAN'T TAKE A GUESS AT THIS, BUT WITH THE, WITH THE NEW DENSITY OF 60 PER, UM, 60 UNITS PER ACRE, I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE HARD TO GET ANYTHING LESS THAN FOUR OR FIVE STORIES.
YEAH, YOU'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT FIVE STORIES, RIGHT.
SO I THINK BY, AND I THINK BY THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST TO INCREASE THE DENSITY, UM, THEY'RE ALMOST ASSURING US OF, UM, OF, I WOULD SAY FOUR AT A MINIMUM, BUT, BUT MORE LIKELY FIVE FIVE, UM, STORIES.
YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE THAT, THAT, THAT NUMBER OF STORIES TO BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE THAT DENSITY PER ACRE.
AND IT'S STILL, THERE IS SOME OTHER AREA ON CITY LINE EAST
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THAT SOMETHING ELSE COULD BE DEVELOPED, RIGHT? YES.YEAH, THERE'S APPROXIMATELY 32 ACRES OF UNDEVELOPED PROPERTY HERE.
SO THERE ARE PLENTY OF ROOM, UH, FOR SOMETHING ELSE OUT THERE? YES, SIR.
THERE IS, UH, IT'S ONLY, YOU KNOW, THE ONLY THE ISSUE IS LIKE THE DENSITY THAT, UH, UH, NOTHING MORE THAN THAT RIGHT NOW.
I HAVE SOME OTHER QUESTION, BUT I'LL BE ASKING THE DEVELOPER ON THAT.
ALRIGHT, SAM, I GUESS NO MORE QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
I'D LIKE TO CALL THE APPLICANT TO COME FORWARD AND PRESENT, UH, AND ANY QUESTIONS THAT COUNSEL MIGHT HAVE FOR YOU, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
YES, MY NAME IS WALT MOUNTFORD.
I LIVE AT 5 1 3 2 HORSESHOE TRAIL IN DALLAS.
UM, THANKS SO MUCH FOR HAVING US.
I'VE BEEN WITH KDC FOR 30 YEARS, AND IN FACT WAS THE DEVELOPMENT EXECUTIVE IN CHARGE OF, UH, CITY LINE SINCE ITS INCEPTION IN DECEMBER OF 2012.
AND, UH, IT'S BEEN A FABULOUS PROJECT FOR US.
WE'VE GOT A HUGE HISTORY WITH THE, WITH RICHARDSON.
UH, I, I PUT THIS SLIDE UP JUST SO THAT YOU CAN SEE ALL THE BUILDINGS YOU PROBABLY DRIVE AROUND EVERY DAY.
UH, WE'VE GOT BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD, OBVIOUSLY, STATE FARM, RAYTHEON FOSSIL, AND, UH, WE'VE GOT 25 BUILDINGS AND BASICALLY 25 PROJECTS OVER A 25 YEAR SPAN IN, IN THE CITY.
AND WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE VERY HAPPY ABOUT THE RELATIONSHIP WE HAVE WITH, WITH THE CITY AND THE TRUST THAT THE CITY HAS GIVEN US WITH THIS FORM-BASED ZONING CODE.
AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, AS IT'S BEEN DISCUSSED BEFORE ME COMING UP HERE, THERE'S A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF FLEXIBILITY, RIGHT? IT ALLOWS YOU TO DO A LOT OF GREAT THINGS AS LONG AS YOU MAINTAIN A REAL URBAN FEEL, RIGHT? WHICH IS PART OF THE REASON WHY WE WANTED TO INCREASE THE DENSITY TO ENSURE THAT IF ANYONE ACQUIRED A PIECE AND WAS GONNA DEVELOP A RESIDENTIAL O OPPORTUNITY THAT THEY'D ULTIMATELY HAVE TO AT LEAST GET TO 60 UNITS PER ACRE.
WE'RE, WE'RE HITTING ABOUT 90 UNITS PER ACRE NOW, AND, AND THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE FACTOR THAT I USE TO DETERMINE THE 1,175, UH, UH, UNITS THAT WE WOULD NEED IF WE WANTED TO BUILD OUT THE ENTIRE PROPERTY AND HAVE A, HAVE A VIABLE BUILD OUT PLAN AS, AS I'VE REQUESTED IN, IN THIS, IN THIS OVERVIEW.
LET ME, UH, I'M JUST GONNA, BECAUSE SO MANY THINGS HAVE BEEN HIT UPON, AND YOU GUYS KNOW SO MUCH MORE THAN THAN THAN I ANTICIPATED WHEN I WROTE THIS DOWN.
I'M GONNA GIVE YOU A QUICK LITTLE AGENDA THAT I'M THINKING ABOUT TALKING THROUGH THE CITY, THE ORIGINAL CITY LINE VISION, CITY LINE TODAY, POST PANDEMIC, OFFICE MARKET RETAIL, AND THEN ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING, IF YOU LOOK AT THE CITY LINE VISION ORIGINALLY, IT REALLY KIND OF SPURRED ON FROM STATE FARM.
STATE FARM, ACTUALLY, WE TOOK 'EM TO A CONFERENCE ROOM IN THE BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD BUILDING AND LOOKED OVER AND THEY SAW THIS MASSIVE GREENFIELD WITH A, WITH A DART LIGHT RAIL STATION, AND THEY SAID, WE WANT TO BE THERE.
AND THEN WE ULTIMATELY NEGOTIATED THAT AND, AND ULTIMATELY WITH THE CITY REZONED THE ENTIRE PROPERTY, PUT AN EIGHT $118 MILLION TIFF IN PLACE IN, IN 40 DAYS.
AND WE CLOSED IN DECEMBER OF, OF 2012.
AND ULTIMATELY WE, WE BROKE GROUND IN MARCH, AND IT, AND IT'S NEVER BEEN THE SAME.
UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THAT HAPPENED AT THAT STATE FARM RE REQUESTED AND, AND ESSENTIALLY REQUIRED THAT THERE WAS GONNA BE NO FOOD SERVICE IN THEIR OFFICE BUILDINGS, NO CAFETERIAS WHATSOEVER.
THEY HAD BREAK ROOMS, BUT THEY HAD NO, NO COOKING FACILITIES OR NOT ANYTHING.
THEY WANTED US TO PUT THAT IN THE, IN THE GROUND FLOOR OF THE PROJECT, WHICH IS WHAT WE DID, OBVIOUSLY.
AND AGAIN, THOSE ARE PODIUM OFFICE BUILDINGS, WHICH MEANS THAT THERE'S SPACE AT THE BOTTOM, RIGHT? THEN THERE'S PARKING, AND THEN THERE'S SOME OFFICE SPACE ABOVE, RIGHT? THE FIRST OFFICE SPACE IS IN THE SIXTH FLOOR, RIGHT? SO YOU'VE GOT, YOU'VE GOT REALLY GREAT VIEWS FROM REALLY THE WORST SPOT IN, IN, IN, IN THE ENTIRE BUILDING, UH, THE EAST AND THE WEST FORM-BASED ZONING CODES REALLY, AGAIN, ALLOW US TO DO ANYTHING THAT WE WANT TO DO.
OFFICE, RESIDENTIAL, RETAIL, RESTAURANTS, ENTERTAINMENT, OPEN SPACE.
IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A VERY FLEXIBLE CODE, RIGHT? AND, AND, AND I'M HERE TO TELL YOU THAT WE HAVEN'T REALLY MISSED ANY OPPORTUNITIES AS IT PERTAINS TO THOSE USES.
WE, AND, AND WHAT WE CAN GO THROUGH A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THAT IN, IN A SECOND.
UM, WHAT I WANTED TO DO WAS ON THIS, ON THIS BACK, THIS, THIS GRAPHIC THAT SAM HAD SHARED WITH YOU, WHICH SHOWED THE FOUR KIND OF AREAS OF CITY LINE.
I WANTED TO QUICKLY HIGHLIGHT WHAT THAT, WHAT THAT REPRESENTS.
2.1 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE LEASE TO STATE FARM, A HALF MILLION SQUARE FEET LEASED TO RAYTHEON, OVER 3,350 MULTI-FAMILY UNITS, HOUSING OVER 4,500 RESIDENTS, 32 HOMES, 58 TOWN HOMES, 50 RETAIL RESTAURANT AND SERVICE COMPANIES, OVER 700 HOTEL ROOMS, A HUNDRED CURATED EVENTS PER YEAR.
UM, AND THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THE, THE ACTIVITY OF CITY LINE AT SEVEN O'CLOCK AT NIGHT.
WELL, WE HAVE, WE HAVE A HUNDRED,
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WE HAVE A HUNDRED ACTIVITIES EVERY YEAR, AND THEY REALLY TAKE PLACE EITHER ON CITYLINE PARK OR CITYLINE PLAZA, OR FOX CREEK PARK, ALL THOSE TIE INTO AND DUMP INTO THE, THE, UH, SPRING, SPRING CREEK, NATURE CHAIR, NATURE TRAIL, AND THEN ALL OF THIS SURROUNDS THE CITYLINE BUSH TRANSIT STATION, RIGHT? AND SO, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, AT LEAST THE WAY THE PROJECT IS NOW, LET ME, UM, THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD'VE ENVISIONED WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROJECT.A LOT OF ACTIVITIES, PEOPLE OUTSIDE WITH YOGA AND, AND JUST A, A LOT OF DIVERSITY IN RESTAURANTS AND RETAIL.
THE, THE, THE LIGHT RAIL BEING A FOCAL POINT OF EVERYTHING, HAVING WHOLE FOODS, WHOLE FOODS, WHEN WHOLE FOODS COMMITTED TO US, THAT WAS A, THAT WAS A TRUE, UM, MARK OF VALIDATION FROM, FROM A RETAIL PERSPECTIVE VERY QUICKLY AFTER JAS JASPER'S, UH, ALSO ACCEPTED SOME SPACE IN OUR BUILDING.
AND SO THAT WAS ANOTHER THING THAT REALLY KICKED US OFF.
AND THEN AFTER THAT, THINGS STARTED TO CASCADE, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER AT THAT, AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME, RIGHT? URBAN RETAIL WAS PRETTY NEW, RIGHT? MOST RETAILERS, THEY WANT TO HAVE A RESTAURANT OPEN THE DOORS, AND THEN THERE'S 10 PER THOUSAND PARKING OF CARS ON THE STREET, RIGHT? AND SURFACE PARKING THIS, WE WERE ASKING PEOPLE TO PARK IN A PARKING STRUCTURE AND THEN WALK INTO A, A, A, A KIND OF A PEDESTRIAN, BUT A VERY URBAN SETTING.
AND IT WAS A RELATIVELY NEW PRODUCT BACK AT THAT POINT IN TIME.
AND, AND WE DID A REALLY NICE JOB OF CURATING THE RESTAURANTS THAT WE HAVE IN THERE.
AND WE'RE, AND WE'RE REALLY PROUD ABOUT THIS, ABOUT THE STATE STREET RETAIL.
ANYWAY, UH, I'M, I'M, I'M KIND OF BABBLING ON HERE A LITTLE BIT, BUT, UM, ONE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S HAPPENED TO US, UM, IS THE PANDEMIC HIT, RIGHT? THE PANDEMIC DID A LOT OF THINGS IN THE, IN THE REAL ESTATE COMMUNITY, UH, AND, AND THE REAL ESTATE MARKETPLACE, UH, DEVASTATED HOTELS, RIGHT? UH, IT, IT, IT, IT HURT OFFICE BUILDINGS SIGNIFICANTLY.
UH, BUT PEOPLE, 'CAUSE PEOPLE WERE WORKING FROM HOME, UM, AND RESIDENTIAL WAS HURT, BUT PEOPLE, AGAIN, WERE WORKING FROM HOME SO THAT, THAT MARKET WASN'T AS, AS, AS UPSET AS SOME OF THE OTHER ONES.
BUT THE, THE BUT THE ONE THAT HAS CARRIED FORWARD AND, AND BEEN THE MOST DIFFICULT FOR US TO FINANCE OUR NEW OFFICE BUILDINGS, RIGHT? IF YOU, IF YOU LOOK BACK AGAIN, IT WAS ALMOST LIKE A, A A WORLDWIDE EXPERIMENT IN WORKING FROM HOME.
THEY LIKED, THEY LIKED THE FACT THAT THEY WERE WORKING FROM HOME.
THEY LIKED THE FACT THAT THEIR, THEIR, THEIR WORK LIFE BALANCE WAS A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
AND SO, AS A CONSEQUENCE, THE, THE, THE COMPANIES THAT WE'RE TALKING TO THAT ARE COMING IN TRYING TO, TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR NEED IS, SPACE-WISE, ALMOST, ALMOST A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THEM ARE GOING FOR LESS SPACE BECAUSE THEY JUST HAVE MORE PEOPLE WORKING AT HOME, RIGHT? THIS HYBRID WORKFORCE AND, AND ALL THOSE OTHER THINGS.
AND SO THERE'S A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF SUBLEASE SPACE IN THE MARKETPLACE, RIGHT? SUBLEASE SPACE, BY AND LARGE, IS CHEAPER THAN NEW SPACE, RIGHT? AND IN, AND, AND IN TODAY'S MARKETPLACE, THE SUB, IF YOU WERE TO SUBLEASE STATE FARMS, UM, OFFICE, IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE HALF OF WHAT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO, TO, TO COMMAND AS A NEW CONSTRUCTION, RIGHT? BECAUSE JUST NEW CONSTRUCTION COSTS MORE MONEY, RIGHT? SO NEW CONSTRUCTION IS ABOUT TWO TIMES, UH, THE RENTAL RATE OF, OF A SUBLEASE SPACE, WHICH IS, WHICH IS CRATERING THE ABILITY FOR OFFICE BUILDINGS TO GET FINANCED.
WE'RE DOING THE, THE TWO LARGEST OFFICE BUILDINGS IN THE METROPLEX.
WE'RE DOING THE, THE, THE WELLS FARGO BANK BUILDING TWO, TWO BUILDINGS, 800,000 SQUARE FEET.
THE ONLY WAY THAT GOT FINANCED WAS THAT WELLS FARGO START WAS WRITING CHECKS, RIGHT? THEY'RE FUND, THEY'RE FUNDING THEIR, THEIR CAMPUS.
THE OTHER ONE IS THE PARKSIDE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH WE'RE DOING ADJACENT TO THE CLYDE WARREN PARK DOWNTOWN.
AND THAT WAS A, A VERY NON-TRADITIONAL FINANCING STRUCTURE THAT PROBABLY WILL NEVER BE REPLICATED.
AND, AND SO BEYOND THAT, YOU'RE, YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT GONNA SEE MU MUCH, MUCH OFFICE TOWER CRANES.
I WILL SAY THAT WE HAVE 2 MILLION SQUARE FEET APPROVED TO BE DEVELOPED ON, ON, ON THE PROPERTY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
THAT'S LITERALLY THE, THE, THE FOUR STATE FARM BUILDINGS ARE 2.1 MILLION THAT THAT'D BE TAKING THEM AND REPLICATING THEM AGAIN ON, ON THE EASTERN SIDE OF PLANO ROAD, WHICH WOULD BE GREAT.
WE WOULD, WE WOULD LOVE TO DO THAT.
UH, ONE, ONE MESSAGE THAT I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CLEAR ON IS WE ARE NOT, WE'RE NOT LEAVING OFFICE DEVELOPMENT.
WE WANNA DEVELOP OFFICES AS MUCH AS WE POSSIBLY CAN.
AND THIS IS A PERFECT PLACE TO IT.
AND THE PLAN THAT WE HAD WAS ABSOLUTELY IDEN IDEAL.
YOU, YOU, YOU BASICALLY REPLICATE THE FORMULA THAT WE DID WITH, WITH STATE FARM, WHERE YOU, YOU PUT 'EM ON PODIUMS, WHERE THE, WHERE THE PARKING LOT BACKS UP TO THE, TO THE, TO THE TOLL ROAD, RIGHT? AND, UH, AND, UH, AND ULTIMATELY CONNECTS THERE AND THEN THEN FOCUS INWARDLY ON THE PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE THAT WE DID IN, IN THE FIRST PHASE OF, OF THE STATE FARM BUILDINGS.
AND SO THAT, THAT ULTIMATELY HAD BEEN, HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE PLAN OF COMPLETION FOR CITY LINE.
WELL, WE DON'T REALLY LEGITIMATELY KNOW WHEN THE OFFICE MARKET'S GONNA COME BACK, WHEN THE NEW OFFICE MARKET'S COME, COME, COME,
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GONNA COME BACK.SOME PEOPLE SAY THERE'S 10 OR 15 YEARS WORTH OF SUPPLY IN THE SUBMARKET IN SUB SUBLEASE MARKETPLACE.
SO THAT, THAT'S GONNA, THAT'S GONNA BE A DIFFERENT, A DIFFICULT, UH, FUTURE FOR US IF WE, IF WE CONTINUE TO RIDE OFFICE.
IT, IT ALMOST MAKES US APPEAR THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT, WHAT THE MARKET CAN, CAN BEAR.
UM, I TRY TO TRUNCATE THIS A LITTLE BIT TOO, SO I APOLOGIZE.
UH, AGAIN, ANOTHER, UH, ANOTHER POINT TO BE MADE THOUGH IS THAT THIS IS A GREAT OFFICE LOCATION.
SO WHEN OFFICE COMES BACK, YOU WOULD THINK THAT THE OFFICE OPPORTUNITY AT CITYLINE WOULD BE ON THE TOP OF EVERYBODY'S LIST.
THERE'S BEEN A FLIGHT TO QUALITY, WHICH HAS, WHICH HAS BEEN A, A TERM THAT'S BEEN USED WHERE, WHERE OFFICE, UH, TENANTS ARE MOVING TO HIGHER QUALITY BUILDINGS IN ORDER TO ATTRACT AND RETAIN PEOPLE AND GET THEM INTO THE, AND GET THEM INTO THE OFFICE BUILDING, RIGHT? AND THEN THE, THE WHOLE WALKABILITY OF CITY LINE IS ALSO A, A, A TREMENDOUS ATTRACTION TO, TO OFFICE OFFICE TENANTS.
SO ALTHOUGH WE'RE REQUESTING THAT WE CAN KIND OF COMPLETE THIS VIABLE BUILD OUT PLAN WITH, WITH AN ADDITIONAL ALLOCATION OF RESIDENTIAL, I CAN, I CAN PROBABLY TELL YOU THAT THAT'S NOT THE WAY IT'S GONNA END UP AT THE END OF THE DAY BECAUSE IT'S GONNA TAKE US YEARS TO BUILD THE PROJECT OUT.
AND, AND, AND HOPEFULLY THERE'LL BE OTHER THINGS THAT, THAT ARE GONNA BE, UH, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO COMPLETE AND, AND DO AT CITY LINE.
THAT'LL TAKE SOME OF THAT, TAKE THAT, TAKE SOME OF THAT SPACE.
LET ME, LET ME JUST TELL YOU JUST A QUICK, QUICK RUNDOWN ON OUR, THE CITYLINE RETAIL AND RESTAURANTS.
THE GREAT THING ABOUT CITYLINE RIGHT NOW IS THAT YOU'RE NOT WAITING FOR WHOLE FOODS.
YOU'RE NOT WAITING FOR CVS, YOU'RE NOT WAITING FOR ALL THE OTHER RESTAURANTS AND SERVICE OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE THERE.
THEY'RE ALREADY THERE, RIGHT? AND THE, AND THE CITY LINE MARKETPLACE, WHICH IS 200, UH, EXCUSE ME, 102,000 SQUARE FEET HAS, IS A HUNDRED PERCENT OCCUPIED AND HAS ALWAYS BEEN A HUNDRED PERCENT OCCUPIED.
UM, THE STATE STREET RETAIL, HOWEVER, IS 132,000 SQUARE FEET.
AND IN FACT, 39,000 SQUARE FEET OF IT HAS NEVER BEEN OCCUPIED.
39,000 SQUARE FEET OF THE STATE STREET RETAIL HAS NEVER BEEN OCCUPIED.
THAT'S ABOUT 30% OF THAT TOTAL SPACE.
SO THE MORE MULTI-FAMILY UNITS WE HAVE WILL ENTICE RETAILERS TO OPEN, BUT IMPORTANTLY, IT'LL, IT'LL ENTICE THE RETAILERS THAT WE HAVE THERE TO, TO STAY THERE AND TO, AND TO GROW THERE.
IF WE WERE TO EXPERIENCE THE DOWNTURN IN THE CURRENT OCCUPANCY, RETAIL GOING DARK CAN, CAN, CAN, CAN CASCADE INTO, INTO A COMPLETE MELTDOWN.
I'M NOT, I'M NOT TRYING TO SAY THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE A MELTDOWN.
I'M JUST SAYING THAT, THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF VACANT RETAIL SPACE.
WE DON'T REALLY NEED ANY MORE RETAIL SPACE, RIGHT? AND IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE WE COULD ADD MULTIFAMILY AND HOPEFULLY THAT WILL, THAT WILL ADD SOME SPACE TO THE OCCUPIED SPACE AS OPPOSED TO THE VACANT SPACE.
BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE CLEAR THAT, THAT WE HAVE THIS SPACE.
'CAUSE I DON'T THINK PEOPLE UNDERSTAND IT.
'CAUSE THEY DRIVE AROUND AND EVERYTHING APPEARS OCCUPIED AND, AND, AND IT DOES.
AND WE DO A GOOD JOB OF THAT, RIGHT? BUT THAT'S REALLY NOT THE CASE.
'CAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S SOME AREAS THAT YOU SAID HAVE NOT BEEN OCCUPIED.
MOST OF IT'S ALL UNDER FOUR CITY LINE, RIGHT? AND THEN THERE'S, THERE'S A, THERE'S A SMALL PORTION THAT'S UNDER TWO CITY LINE.
ALRIGHT? UM, I DO WANNA MENTION THAT WE DO HAVE MIXED USE CON COMPETITION AND ALTERNATIVES FOR SALES TAX DOLLARS, RIGHT? WE'VE GOT THE COLLIN CREEK REDEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS 1.3 MILES AWAY, AND IT HAS 3,100 RESIDENCES APPROVED AND 348,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL AND RESTAURANTS APPROVED.
WE HAVE DOWNTOWN PLANO, WHICH IS ABOUT A 1.8 MILES AWAY, AND THAT HAS A MIXED USE DART TOD WITH, WITH 5,000 MULTIFAMILY UNITS IN IT.
SO THERE ARE, THERE ARE OTHER ALTERNATIVES FOR PEOPLE WHEN THEY'RE LOOKING TO EITHER RESIDE OR, OR, OR TO, UH, TO, TO, UH, TO CHOOSE A, CHOOSE A BUSINESS LOCATION.
I WILL SAY ONE QUICK THING AS WELL, UM, THREE, EDGEWOOD ACQUIRED THE FOUR STATE FARM BUILDINGS, ALL OF THE RETAIL UNDERNEATH THE STATE FARM BUILDINGS, AND THEN THE RETAIL UNDERNEATH THE, THE BUILDING THAT'S AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF STATE STREET AND, AND RENNER ROAD, UM, WHICH IS A, WHICH WAS A CONDOMINIUM.
SO THEY OWN ALMOST ALL THE GROUND FLOOR RETAIL THAT I'M TALKING TO YOU ABOUT THAT HAS THE VACANCY.
AND WE, WE TALK ALL THE TIME, AND THEY'RE VERY INTERESTED IN, IN MAKING SURE, IN FACT, THAT WAS THE ONE LETTER THAT YOU HAD IN SUPPORT OF,
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OF THIS PROJECT WAS, WAS FROM THEM.AND WE'VE GOT A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM.
THERE'S, THERE'S NO MISSED OPPORTUNITIES THERE.
ANYWAY, REALLY, I THINK A REQUEST IS SIMPLE.
IT'S TO HELP CITY LINES, URBAN RETAIL, AND MORE RESIDENTIAL WITH MORE RESIDENTIAL, WHILE ALSO PROVIDING AT LEAST ONE VIABLE FULL BUILD OUT SCENARIO FOR OUR INVESTORS.
AND WHEN, WHEN I SAY OUR INVESTORS, I MEAN EVERYONE THAT IS KIND OF INVESTED IN CITYLINE, WHICH INCLUDES YOU GUYS, RIGHT? CITY OF RICHARDSON, THREE, EDGEWOOD, KDC, CITYLINE, BUSH STAR STATION, OR DART, ALL THE RENTERS, THE RETAIL TENANTS, THE RESTAURANTS, THE, THE BUSINESSES, THE U, THE OFFICE USERS, CAPITAL SOURCES, MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPERS, HOTEL DEVELOPERS, BROKERS, BANKS, ALL THOSE FOLKS ARE, HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN THE SUCCESS OF THIS PROJECT.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE BECAUSE WE WANT TO ALERT YOU OF SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE.
AND AT THE SAME TIME, CURE SOME THINGS.
SO, SO THAT WE CAN MOVE ON IN, IN A, IN, IN THIS FORM-BASED ZONING CODE AND, UH, AND BE SUCCESSFUL.
I'M GONNA BE HERE OBVIOUSLY FOR ANY QUESTIONS, AND I, AND I WILL TALK HOWEVER LONG YOU'D LIKE ABOUT CITYLINE.
WELL, YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB OF PRESENTING YOUR CASE.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR WALT AT THIS TIME? MR. CORCORAN? I THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION, WALT.
UM, I ACTUALLY WORK AT FOREST CITY LINE.
AND SO I KNOW, I KNOW ABOUT THE, THE VACANT STORE IN RETAIL UNDER IT.
I WAS, I WAS WONDERING IF YOU COULD GIVE ME, UM, GIVE THE COUNCIL RATHER SOME PERSPECTIVE ON JUST THE, THE SIZE OF THE DIFFERENT, UH, VACANT, I GUESS YOU COULD SAY RETAIL SPACES OR LOTS.
I MEAN, ARE THEY ALL SMALL RESTAURANT SIZE OR SOME OF THEM BIG ENOUGH TO ACCOMMODATE DIFFERENT USES, LIKE LITTLE COMMUNITY THEATERS OR THINGS LIKE THAT? I MEAN, WHAT'S, WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? WELL, UM, THERE'S, THERE'S THREE SPACES IN FOUR CITY LINE.
AND JUST BY COMPARISON, A A, A GOOD HIGH-END RESTAURANT WE'LL TAKE, JASPER IS ABOUT 7,600 SQUARE FEET.
SO, SO THAT'S ABOUT THE SIZE OF THREE OF THOSE SPACES, AND I THINK TWO OF THEM CAN BE COMBINED.
SO PERHAPS IT'S 15,000 SQUARE FEET FOR THAT.
UH, JUST SOME GENERAL CURIOSITY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY, OR FORTUNATELY, I WAS NOT BORN THAT TIME
CAN I, CAN I, CAN I INTERRUPT YOU? I HATE TO INTERRUPT YOU.
I HAVE A HEARING PROBLEM, SO IF, IF YOU GUYS COULD SPEAK INTO THE MIC JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT I CAN HEAR EXACTLY WHAT YOU YOU'RE ASKING.
UH, NOW, YOU KNOW, I'M GLAD ONE THING THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE IS NO PRECONDITION, THUS, YOU KNOW, SING OF THIS PROJECT, WHEN TO BUILD THAT HOUSING, WHEN TO BUILD A RETAIL AND OFFICE.
BASICALLY THIS KIND OF CONDITION KILL PROJECTS.
UH, BUT I'M GLAD THAT NOT THERE.
UH, THE OTHER THING THAT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT I HEAR, BUT THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED MORE THAN A THOUSAND, HOW MANY UNIT THERE, ABOUT 2000 UNIT ALREADY APPROVED THERE.
RIGHT? WHAT'S THE EXISTING NUMBER OF UNITS? UH, THEY'RE APPROVED FOR CITY LINE EAST IS, UH, 19 25, 19 25.
SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR ANOTHER THOUSAND ONLY, RIGHT? A LITTLE OVER 1100.
SO WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW, THIS IS GREAT, YOU KNOW, DENSITY, I'M, I, I SUPPORT DENSITY STRONGLY BECAUSE THAT'S NEEDED, UH, TO RUN ANY OTHER BUSINESS.
THE THE QUESTION IS THAT WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT ALMOST 2000 UNIT BEING THERE, UH, WHICH IS GREAT FOR THIS MARKET SOMETIMES, BUT IN THE FUTURE, UH, YOU KNOW, IF THE MARKET FOR MULTIFAMILY APARTMENTS IS NOT GREAT, UH, IS THERE ANY WAY THAT COULD BE CONVERTED INTO, UH, CONDOMINIUM OR SOMETHING? UH, HAVE, I MEAN, I KNOW THAT YOU ARE IN THE MARKET FOR KDC IS A BIG NAME.
AND YOU ARE, YOU'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY FOR OTHER CITY FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, UHHUH,
UH, SO WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHT ABOUT THAT? HOW LONG THIS MULTIFAMILY WILL CONTINUE? AND THEN YEAH.
ONE, A COUPLE OF QUICK THINGS.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANTED TO DO, I CAN'T REMEMBER IF I MENTIONED THIS OR NOT, WAS TO INCREASE THE DENSITY, RIGHT? WE WERE, YOU'RE THIS CURRENT, UH, UH, AMENDMENT IS THAT 60 PER UNIT, 60 PER ACRE, AND WE WANNA GO UP TO 90 PER ACRE.
SO THAT, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HELPS DICTATE,
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UH, DENSITY AND, AND STREET EXPERIENCE AND PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE AND ALL THOSE OTHER THINGS.SO ONCE YOU, ONCE YOU DO THAT, YOU CAN'T NECESSARILY DO USE, USE IT FOR SOMETHING ELSE.
I WILL SAY THAT, UM, THE REASON WHY THERE AREN'T MORE CONDOMINIUMS IN TEXAS IS CONDOMINIUM IS A, TEXAS IS A VERY CONDOMINIUM UNFRIENDLY LL LEGISLATURE, AND IT'S NOT ANYWHERE LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU GO TO, UM, UH, MIAMI, RIGHT? YOU CAN PUT MONEY DOWN AND HELP, HELP FUND AN ACTUAL CONDO TOWER.
NONE OF THOSE ALTERNATIVES EXIST IN, IN TEXAS.
THERE'S A 10 YEAR, UH, LATENCY ISSUE WITH CONTRA, WITH CONSTRUCTION AND WHATNOT, THAT, THAT'S WHY YOU SEE SO FEW CONDOMINIUMS DEVELOPED IN, IN TEXAS.
AND SO I, I NEVER U REALLY LOOK AT IT LIKE, LIKE THAT.
I ALWAYS LOOK AT IT, IT IS GONNA BE A HIGHRISE APARTMENT BUILDING, BUT WHICH WE'RE COMPLETELY AMENABLE TO DOING WHENEVER THAT TIME ARISES.
I, YOU KNOW, THAT SIDE, I'M FROM AN AREA THAT I'M USED TO WITH THE HIGH RISE CONDOMINIUM.
UH, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE 25 STORY BUILDING WITH, YOU KNOW, BUNCH OF UNIT IN IT.
IT LOOKS LIKE APARTMENT, BUT THOSE ARE ACTUALLY YEAH.
CONDOMINIUM, BUT THOSE ARE ALSO BUILT WITH STEEL AND CONCRETE, NOT, UM, NOT THIS TEMPORARY STRUCTURES.
BUT ANYWAY, I JUST HAD SOME CURIOSITY.
I JUST WANTED TO SEE THE REASON BEHIND, BUT I'M GLAD YOU ANSWERED THAT.
COULD I MENTION ONE OTHER THING, JUST KIND OF DEVIATING FROM THE DISCUSSION? SURE.
BECAUSE YOU, YOU, YOU, YOU PICKED UP ON IT, DON, AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT WE DID UNDERSTAND THIS REAL ESTATE GOES THROUGH, GOES THROUGH KIND OF CYCLES, RIGHT? AND, AND IT GOES THROUGH CYCLES WHEN, WHEN LAND PRICES GET HIGHER THAN, THAN TAKE A, TAKE AN OFFICE BUILDING, FOR EXAMPLE.
YOU, YOU'VE GOT TONS OF OFFICE BUILDINGS THAT ARE JUST OFFICE BUILDINGS AND THEN SURFACE PARKING, RIGHT? BUT THEN AS THE LAND GETS MORE EXPENSIVE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO STRUCTURE THAT PARKING.
AND AS THE LAND GETS MORE EXPENSIVE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO THINGS LIKE STATE FARM AND PUT THE OFFICE BUILDING ON TOP OF THE PARKING, RIGHT? AND THAT, UH, AND THAT ULTIMATELY KIND OF EVOLVES OVER TIME.
THE SAME THING HAS HAPPENED WITH OUR MULTIFAMILY, RIGHT? IF YOU, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS, ZELLE CORSON ORIGINALLY DEVELOPED A THREE STORY NO CORRIDOR, RIGHT? THERE'S OUT ACCESS TO THE OUTSIDE SURFACE PARKED PROJECT ON THE CORNER, ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF, OF RENTER AND, AND, AND, UH, PLANO ROAD.
AND THEN THEIR NEXT PHASE, THEY HAD A FOUR STORY WRAPPED, BUT THEIR INTERIOR CORRIDORS DIDN'T HAVE ANY AIR CONDITIONING.
AND THEN THE NEXT PHASE, WHICH THE JLB, THEY DID A FOUR FIVE STORY WRAPPED AND DIDN'T HAVE ANY AC IN THEIR, IN THEIR, IN THEIR INTERNAL, INTERNAL CORRIDORS.
THE NEXT PHASE, THE VERY LAST ONE WE DID WITH JLB HAS FIVE STORY WRAPPED, AND THE COURT AND THE CORRIDORS INTERNALLY ARE AIR CONDITIONED, RIGHT? THAT'S THE REGISTER.
IF YOU, IF YOU KNOW WHERE THAT IS, THAT'S, THAT'S THE TYPE OF ELEVATION EVOLUTION THAT ULTIMATELY LEADS YOU TO A MULTI-STORY APARTMENT ON A PODIUM WITH PODIUM PARKING, RIGHT? AND THEN ULTIMATELY AFTER THAT, YOU, YOU GO TO HIGH RISE APARTMENTS, RIGHT? SO, SO THERE HAS BEEN A TREND AT CITY LINE TO GET MORE AND MORE DENSE.
WE'RE JUST NOT QUITE THERE YET, RIGHT? AND, AND FOLKS WOULD LIKE US TO BE PATIENT, AND I THINK WE HAVE BEEN PATIENT AND WE'VE BEEN, WE, WE'VE BEEN WORKING THIS SITUATION SO THAT WE CONTINUE TO, TO GET MORE AND MORE DENSE AND, AND, AND THAT DENSITY IS GONNA DRIVE, IS GONNA, IS GONNA DRIVE HEIGHT, BASICALLY.
CAN I ASK YOU A FOLLOW UP QUESTION BECAUSE SURE.
UH, I THINK YOU MENTIONED THIS THING BEFORE.
UH, HOW, HOW TALL, HOW MANY STORY YOU LOOKING AT? WELL, THE MOST DEVELOPMENT HEIGHT WISE IS RESTRICTED BY THE CODES, RIGHT? AND SO IF YOU'RE GONNA DO A, A WRAPPED PRODUCT, FIVE STORIES IS THE, IS THE TALLEST YOU CAN GET.
'CAUSE AFTER YOU, AFTER, AFTER YOU GO, AFTER YOU GO ABOVE THAT, YOU HAVE TO PUT IN SOME TYPE OF PODIUM, PARKING OR PODIUM AT, AT THE, AT THE BASE OF THE BUILDING IN ORDER TO, IN ORDER TO ALLOW THAT STICK BUILT TO EITHER GET TALLER AND THAT'S NOT, AND THERE'S NOT MUCH ROOM IN THAT, OR YOU GO TO SOME OTHER TYPE OF CONSTRUCTION.
UH, THE CONSTRUCTION SIMILAR TO THE, THE A LOFT HOTEL, WHICH WAS A, WAS A, WHICH WAS A CONCRETE PLANK AND STEEL BUILDING.
SO YOU, YOU'RE LOOKING AT UP TO, UP TO FIVE STORY.
AND HOW ABOUT THE PARKING? IS THAT, OH, NO, THERE'S, THERE'S NO LIMITATION ON THE, ON, ON, ON THE, ON THE MULTIFAMILY, RIGHT? NO, I MEAN, SO HAPPENS THAT THAT, THAT THE THREE, THAT THE FIVE STORY WRAPPED IS THE PRODUCT AND THE DENSITY THAT WE CHOSE TO, TO COMPLETE THE, COMPLETE THE BUILDUP PLAN.
BUT AGAIN, WE COULD, WE COULD HOPEFULLY WE WE'LL GO TALLER.
SO YOU COULD GO TALLER ON THIS SITE YOU'RE LOOKING AT OR OH, YEAH.
IT'S NOT, YOU'RE NOT, NOT, NO, YOU COULD, YOU CAN GO ANY TALLER ON THE FIVE STORY WRAPPED.
YOU CAN'T GO ANY TALLER THAN THAT YOU HAVE IS A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT NO, I, I DO UNDERSTAND.
BUT I'M JUST, WHAT'S YOUR INTENT ON THIS SITE? ARE YOU GOING TO BUILD FIVE? OUR INTENT, OUR INTENT ON THIS SITE IS TO, IS TO MAINTAIN THE DENSITIES AND INCREASE THOSE DENSITIES OVER TIME.
BECAUSE IF, IF, IF WE CAN MAINTAIN DENSITIES AND INCREASE THOSE DENSITIES OVER TIME, WE, WE
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START TO ATTRACT A DIFFERENT DEMOGRAPHIC.PRICING STARTS TO GO UP, DENSITY STARTS TO GO UP, AND THAT MEANS LAND LAND PRICES GO UP.
SO YOU COULD GO UP TO EVEN 10, 10 STORY IF YOU TO OH, YEAH.
ONCE YOU GET INTO A PORT AND CONCRETE PLACE, PORT AND PLACE CONCRETE BUILDING, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN CLEARLY, WE, WE WILL BE OUT, WE WOULD BE OUTSIDE THESE 225 UH, FEET ON THE, ON THE LOWER PORTION.
UH, YOU, YOU PROBABLY BLOW THROUGH THAT.
AND YOU, YOU GENERALLY SPEAKING, YOU'RE, YOU'RE IN A 350 FOOT RANGE FOR, FOR A, FOR A WELL-DEFINED 17 UNIT PER FLOOR, UH, HIGH RISE APARTMENT BUILDING.
I MEAN THAT WITH CONCRETE AND STILL YOU CAN GO YEAH.
UH, BUT MY, MY QUESTION WAS LIKE, WHAT IS YOUR INTENTION FOR THIS SITE? OUR, OUR INTENTION IS TO, IS TO RESPOND TO THE MARKETPLACE, RIGHT? I IF, IF, IF, IF THE MARKET, IF THE MARKET MEANING THE RENTAL, RENTAL RATES AROUND THE AREA AND THE DEMOGRAPHICS AROUND THE AREA SEE A, A, AN OPPORTUNITY, A NICHE OPPORTUNITY, AND SOMEONE COMES IN HERE TO ACQUIRE A, A SITE FROM US AND WANTS TO DEVELOP A HIGH RISE, UH, RESIDENTIAL TOWER, WE ARE ON'S GO.
SO, SO THAT MEANS YOU DON'T HAVE THE, HOW ABOUT THE TIMELINE? WHAT'S YOUR TIMELINE YOU THINKING? UH, ONE YEAR, TWO YEAR, THREE YEARS? YOU KNOW, I, I CAN TELL YOU THAT IT'S NOT POSSIBLE TODAY.
UH, AND WE'VE, WE'VE REACHED THIS NEW LITTLE PLATEAU WHERE WE'VE GOT A FIVE STORY WRAP WITH INTERIOR CORRIDORS, AIR CONDITIONED, AND, AND THEN IT'LL, IT'LL JUST TAKE THAT NEXT BUMP, BUT IT COULD BE A COUPLE YEARS, COULD BE FOUR YEARS.
I MEAN, I, YOU ANSWERED LOTS OF QUESTION.
I THINK, UH, LOOK FORWARD, I DO SUPPORT IN GENERAL DENSITY FOR CERTAIN REGION.
AND, AND, AND, WELL, I JUST WANTED TO, UH, KIND OF ADD TO WHAT COUNCILMAN, UM, SHAM SCHUL SAID.
I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU, UH, THOSE VERY QUESTIONS AS A MATTER OF FACT.
UM, BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR.
I'M GOING BACK TO THE FACT THAT POTENTIALLY IF THIS PASSES, THEN YOU HAVE THE OPTION TO DO ANY OF THOSE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT, RIGHT? AND DEPENDING ON THE TIMELINE WILL DEPEND ON WHAT THE MARKET WILL WILL SUPPORT, RIGHT? UM, SO AT THIS POINT, WE DON'T HAVE A TIMELINE, BUT, AND WE HAVE NO SCHEMATICS OR WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING THAT HAS BEEN PRE-DESIGNED, POTENTIALLY PRE-DESIGNED OR A S AND A SCHEMATIC STATE.
THEREFORE, THERE'S STILL A POT, THERE'S STILL POTENTIAL HERE TO, AT THE TIME THAT THIS HAPPENS, THAT WE COULD GET OFFICE OR A COMBINATION OF OFFICE MULTIFAMILY RETAIL.
SO POTENTIALLY THAT COULD STILL HAPPEN.
AND WE WOULD BY HAVING ALL THESE OPTIONS ON THE TABLE AND WELL, IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH.
AND A, THAT WE WOULD MUCH RATHER, WE WOULD MUCH PREFER THAT, RIGHT? OUR BUSINESS MODEL IN GENERAL IS TO BE A CORPORATE CUSTOM HOME BUILDER.
WE'VE DONE THE TOYOTA, NORTH AMERICAN HEADQUARTERS, LIBERTY MUTUAL, UP AT, UP AT LEGACY WEST, AND ALL THE, ALL THE OFFICE BUILDINGS UP AT LEGACY WEST.
WE'VE DONE, WE, WE, THAT'S OUR KIND OF OUR BREAD AND BUTTER.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHO OUR CLIENTELE IS.
AND NOW WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO UNTIL THE MARKET COMES BACK.
BUT, BUT AT, AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE WOULD, WE WOULD LOVE TO DO THE OFFICE.
AND THIS DOESN'T PRECLUDE ANY OF THOSE USES.
ALL THOSE USES ARE, ARE, ARE COMPLETELY ADAPTABLE TO, TO THIS PLAN AND THE PLAN'S ADAPTABLE TO THEM.
THAT'S WHAT'S SO GREAT ABOUT THIS.
AND YOU ASKED ABOUT HOW QUICKLY THIS UNFOLDS.
WHEN WE WERE, WE, WE WERE IN THE THROES OF BUILDING OUT CITY LINE.
IT WAS JUST SITE PLAN APPROVAL.
AND, AND WE, AND WE WOULD GO, I MEAN, AND THE, THE CITY WAS BECAUSE OF THE ZONING WAS SO FLEXIBLE FOR US, AS LONG AS WE HAD ADHERED TO THE FORM-BASED ASPECTS TO IT, WE COULD PUT ANY USE IN WHICH IS, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE DID.
AND, AND JUST LAST QUESTION, UH, GENERALLY, DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA OF A TIMELINE, A TIMELINE OF WHEN THIS WOULD TAKE PLACE? NOT JUST ASSUMING THAT YOU WOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PARTICULAR, UH, OKAY.
IF I WERE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PARTICULAR VIABLE BUILD OUT SCENARIO, WHICH AGAIN, IS EXTREMELY UNLIKELY TO ACTUALLY ULTIMATELY BE THE VIABLE, VIABLE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM.
UM, IT TAKES ABOUT TWO YEARS TO DO, UH, A FIVE STORY WRAP PRODUCT.
YOU, YOU CONSTRUCTED IT FOR A YEAR AND YOU LEASE IT UP FOR A YEAR.
SO, SO THAT'S THE FIRST ONE, RIGHT? AND THERE'S, AND WE'RE ASKING FOR ABOUT SEVEN OF THESE SEVEN, SEVEN PROJECTS, IF YOU WILL.
AND SO IF EVERY PROJECT WERE KIND OF SYNCED IN THERE, AND THEY ONLY TOOK ONE MORE YEAR, RIGHT? THEN WE, IT WOULD, AS FAST AS WE COULD DO IT, WOULD, WOULD BE EIGHT MONTHS FOR SEVEN FOR SEVEN PROJECTS.
EIGHT YEARS FOR SEVEN PROJECTS, EIGHT YEARS.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND? I GET THAT RIGHT.
I, I WAS TRYING TO EXPLAIN TO YOU, CONSTRUCTION LEASE UP IS TWO MONTHS, BUT THEN YOU WOULD'VE ALREADY STARTED THE CONSTRUCTION ON THE NEXT ONE AS, AS IT WAS THE FIRST ONE WAS LEASING UP, RIGHT? SO IT WOULD BE KIND OF STAGGERED AND YOU'D, YOU'D END UP WITH EIGHT YEARS
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RIGHT? NOW YOU CAN, YOU CAN EXPEDITE THAT IF YOU HAVE MORE THAN ONE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPER DEVELOPING AT THE SAME TIME.BUT THAT, BUT THAT GETS TO BE DIFFICULT.
AND THERE'S SOME OTHER, THERE'S SOME OTHER NEGATIVE ASPECTS TO THAT.
OKAY, WALT, ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH US? NO, I'M, WE ARE EXTREMELY PROUD OF CITYLINE AND, AND, AND ANY OF THE, WE HAVE TRIED CERTAINLY TO DO THE, THE BEST JOB WE CAN WITH THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE'VE BEEN PRESENTED.
AND, AND I, AND I, I, I ALWAYS ENJOY GOING THERE AND I HOPE YOU GUYS DO TOO.
AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO CONTINUING THAT DEVELOPMENT.
AND IN ORDER TO DO THAT, WE, WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU GUYS APPROVE OUR, OUR APPLICATION.
I'LL ASK YOU TO TAKE A SEAT AT THIS TIME.
WE MAY CALL YOU BACK UP, BUT WE'LL WAIT AND SEE.
AT THIS TIME, WE'LL DO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK IF THERE'S ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS.
MAYOR FIRST ONE IS RICHARD STRECKER, AND NUMBER TWO WILL BE SCOTT DUNN, RICHARD ST.
STRECKER, 28 0 9, FOX CREEK DRIVE.
UH, I WISH IN THE AGENDA PACKET, I HAD HAD THE FIRST COUPLE OF SLIDES THAT, UH, MR. CHAVEZ, UH, SHOWED WITH REGARD TO THE, UH, UH, FORM-BASED, UH, DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT WAS PROPOSED IN 2014 WITH THE, UH, COMPLEX MIX OF, UH, ENTERTAINMENT, RETAIL, HIGH RISE, RESIDENTIAL, UH, APARTMENT, UH, WHICH I DIDN'T HAVE, AND WHAT'S BEING LOOKED AT AT THIS TIME NOW.
SO MY COMMENTS REFLECT THAT, AND BY THE WAY, I FEEL THAT THAT ORIGINAL CONCEPT IS, IS FRANKLY, THE WAY TO GO FOR THIS CITY THAN WHAT THE, UH, DEVELOPER IS ASKING YOU TO DO TONIGHT.
UM, AND I UNDERSTAND THE REALITIES OF THE MARKET HERE.
THE OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO STATE BEFORE READING MY, UH, STATEMENT RIGHT HERE IS I, I'M, I'M RELUCTANT TO GO FIRST, UM, TALKING BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE EVERYTHING I SAY CAN BE REBUTTED BY WHO COMES AFTER ME.
OKAY? SO, UH, LEMME GO WITH MY SPIEL HERE THAT I'VE GOT.
FIRST OF ALL, THIS PD PLAN DEVELOPMENT AMENDMENT HAS BEEN DENIED TWICE BY THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION.
THE FIRST TIME BY A FOUR TO THREE VOTE, THE SECOND TIME BY A FIVE TO TWO VOLT VOTE.
A READING OF THE CPC MEETING MINUTES INDICATES THAT SOME COMMISSIONERS QUESTION WHETHER CONSTRUCTING AN ADDITIONAL 1,175 UNITS, WHICH IS, BY THE WAY, A 61% INCREASE OVER THE 1925 UNITS AND NOT A 23% INCREASE OF 5,100 UNITS THAT YOU SEE IN YOUR STAFF REPORT.
THAT'S PART OF YOUR AGENDA PACKET THERE, UH, WILL, UH, WILL MATERIALLY AFFECT RETAIL, AND WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IS THEY'RE QUESTIONING WHETHER THIS ADDITIONAL 1175 UNITS WILL MATERIALLY AFFECT RETAIL FOOT TRAFFIC AT THE EXISTING CITY LINE BUSINESSES.
ANOTHER MAJOR CONCERN EXPRESSED IS THE FACT THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT APPEARS TO INCLUDE ONLY FIVE STORY WRAP APARTMENTS, WHICH HAS JUST BEEN ADDRESSED.
AND, UH, THE APPLICANT HERE, UH, MENTIONED THE, UH, SEVEN, THE SEVEN, UH, APARTMENT COMPLEXES.
WHILE I'M ON THAT SUBJECT, WHEN, UH, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE, UH, DENSITY UNITS OF, UH, 60 ARE, NOW WE'RE TALKING 90, UH, UNITS PER ACRE.
UH, WHEN I'VE SEEN PAST, UM, APPLICANTS COME IN HERE FOR, UH, ZONE REQUEST, UH, THE, UH, THE SIZE OF THE UNITS, IT'S, IT'S BEEN A SHRINK ATION TYPE OF, OF, UH, SITUATION HERE.
THEY'RE TALKING 70% EFFICIENCY OR ONE STORY, OR ONE, UH, ONE BEDROOM APARTMENTS, 25%, TWO, UH, BEDROOM APARTMENTS.
THE REST REMAINING THREE BEDROOM APARTMENTS.
MOST OF YOU WORK PROBABLY IN AN OFFICE.
UH, SO CONSIDER A 10 BY 10, UH, SQUARE FOOT OFFICE.
UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE, UH, PROPOSED, UH, SIZE OF THE, UH, PARTICULARLY EFFICIENCY AND ONE BEDROOM APARTMENTS, YOU'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT 500 SQUARE FEET.
SO TAKE YOUR 100 SQUARE FOOT OFFICE AND MULTIPLY THAT BY SIX, AND NOW YOU'RE LOOKING AT, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GONNA BE LIVING IN, UH, IN THE EVENINGS THERE.
SO, BACK TO THIS FIVE STORY WRAP APARTMENTS, WHICH DON'T AGE PARTICULARLY WELL IN THIS REGARD.
PAUL KER, WHO'S IN THE AUDIENCE AND WHO HAS, UH, FILLED OUT A, UH, SPEAKER, UH, UH, REQUEST CARD, UH,
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COMMENTED ON THE JUNE 18TH CPC MEETING ON THE LACK OF HIGH RISE RESIDENTIAL RETAIL AND ENTERTAINMENT OPTIONS THAT SUSTAINED A WORK LI LIVE PLAY VIABILITY.UH, NOT MENTIONED THAT EITHER MEETING WAS, UH, THE EXTRA DEMAND ON THE REGION'S UTILITIES, WHICH RELATIVE TO THE MASSIVE CONSTRUCTION GOING ON ELSEWHERE IN THE NORTH TEXAS AREA MAY NOT AMOUNT TO MUCH.
HOWEVER, EVERY FAUCET TOILET AND LIGHT SWITCH HAS SOME EFFECT.
AS A REMINDER, THE NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT PRESENTED SEVERAL SLIDES TO COUNCIL LAST YEAR, SHOWING WATER DEMAND OUTSTRIPPING SUPPLY BY 2036.
THE GENTLEMAN THAT WAS OVER HERE THAT TALKED ABOUT THE $534 WATER BILL IS A CASE IN POINT WITH REGARD TO, UH, THE, UH, UH, UH, DEMAND ON WATER.
A SIMILAR SITUATION EXISTS WITH RESPECT TO THE ELECTRIC GRID AS MORE HOMES, DATA CENTERS, AI SITES, AND BITCOIN MINING STRAINS AND ALREADY FRAGILE SYSTEM.
I UNDERSTAND KDC AND THREE, EDGEWOOD NEEDS TO PROTECT THEIR EXISTING INVESTMENTS AS WELL AS POSITION THEMSELVES FOR THE FUTURE IN A DIFFICULT MARKET.
I ALSO UNDERSTAND THE CITY'S NEED FOR ADDITIONAL TAX REVENUE IN THE SAME CHALLENGING ECONOMY.
THE RECENT SALE OF THE STATE FARM BUILDINGS LAST YEAR FOR $580 MILLION TO THREE EDGEWOOD, LLC IS A CASE IN POINT.
MY ASSET GLOBAL INVESTMENTS AND TRANSWESTERN INVESTMENT GROUP PURCHASED THE PROPERTIES IN 2016 FROM STATE FARM FOR A PURPORTED $822 MILLION.
THAT'S A 29.4% LOSS OF VALUE OVER A SEVEN YEAR PERIOD.
IN ADDITION, THIS CITY BUDGET, THIS CITY COUNCIL WILL BE, UH, LOOKING AT THE BUDGET IN FOUR WEEKS.
IT IS CURRENTLY AT $400 MILLION, A 14% INCREASE OVER LAST YEAR, NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET, WHICH THE CITY COUNCIL WILL WRESTLE WITH IS LIKELY TO SEE A DOUBLE DIGIT INCREASE AS WELL.
GIVEN THESE REALITIES, IT MAY BE TEMPTING TO APPROVE THIS ZONING FILE.
HOWEVER, GIVEN COMMENTS BY THE CPC COMMISSION IN TWO SEPARATE MEETINGS AND THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT VISIONS THAT HAS NOT BEEN FULLY REALIZED, THE REQUEST SHOULD BE DENIED.
LET'S SEE WHAT KDC CAN DO WITH THE ZONING THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED.
THANK YOU, MS. NEER, SCOTT DUNN.
UH, COUNCIL STAFF FIRST BEFORE I GET TO THE NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE.
I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR FIRST ALLOWING FIVE MINUTES BACK FOR PUBLIC SPEAKING, THAT'S NOT WITH THE ZONING CASE, AND ALSO RE OR REPLANT RICHARDSON, ALL GOOD NEWS THANKS TO Y'ALL'S LEADERSHIP.
SO THANK YOU MAYOR, COUNCIL AND STAFF AGAIN.
I'M SCOTT DUNN, UH, 1 0 0 3 NORTH WATERVIEW DRIVE, RICHARDSON.
UH, FIRST OF ALL, THE COMPANY I WORK FOR IS CURRENTLY LOOKING AT, UH, DOING BUSINESS IN ANOTHER CITY JUST NORTH HERE.
I WANT TO THANK THE, UH, COMMUNITY, NOT COMMUNITY SERVICE, BUT, UH, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND, AND THE EASE THAT WE HAVE HERE IN CORE TO BE ABLE TO, TO DO BUSINESS.
THEY, THEY PUT YOU THROUGH A RINGER, JUST A COUPLE, THREE, UH, CITIES NORTH OF US.
UH, IT ALSO HAS ALWAYS BEEN SAID, YOU KNOW, HAVE A PLAN AND WORK YOUR PLAN.
WE WANT BUSINESSES TO SURVIVE HERE IN RICHARDSON CITY LINE HAS BEEN MENTIONED THAT WITH THE DART RAIL AND SILVER LINE, UH, 75 AND BUSH, THAT'S CROSSROADS OF MAIN STREET AND MAIN STREET.
THAT, THAT'S MAJOR INTERSECTION WHERE A LOT HAPPENS IN THE PAST, IN TWO, UH, 20 2009, I WAS IN THE AUDIENCE WHEN THIS WAS FIRST BROUGHT UP AS FORM-BASED CODE.
AND THOSE UNCOMFORTABLE CHAIRS BACK THERE.
BUT IN 2011, I JOINED COUNCIL AND GOT TO GET SOME OF THESE CUSH COMFORTABLE CHAIRS.
THANK YOU, UH, PEOPLE SUPPORTING ME.
UH, AT THAT TIME IT WAS TALKED ABOUT DOD, TRANSFER ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT.
MR. MONFORT, UH, UH, TALKED A LOT ABOUT THAT THERE.
THAT'S WHAT THIS DEVELOPMENT IS.
AND SO, AND, AND WE ALSO TALKED THAT WE WANTED HIGHER BUILDINGS, HIGHER, HIGHER RI UH, LIVING HIGH RISE, I, AND UNDERSTAND THE CONSTRAINTS ON, ON THE BUILDING CONSTRUCTION COSTS
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AND STUFF.SO, BUT AS I MENTIONED, ALSO TWO DARK LINES.
THE SILVER LINE AND THE RED LINE BOTH HELP OUT THIS DEVELOPMENT.
A COUPLE OF Y'ALL SERVE ON COG AND Y'ALL KEEP SEEING THE INCREASE IN POPULATION.
IF THEY DON'T COME HERE TO RICHARDSON, WHERE WILL THEY GO? THEY, AND IF THEY DON'T COME HERE, THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL NOT SURVIVE.
IT NEEDS THE, UH, HEADS AND BEDS FOR THE ECO ECONOMICS TO WORK ON THESE RETAILERS THAT ARE THERE.
I FREQUENT THEM, AND THEY ARE NOT FULL LIKE THEY HAD PLANNED TO BE WHEN I JOINED COUNCIL, AND WE VOTED ON THIS.
SO IT DEF DEFINITELY NEEDS IT.
UH, KDC MENTIONED THEIR 25 YEARS HISTORY HERE.
I SERVED ON COUNCIL EIGHT OF THOSE 25 YEARS AND KNOW KDC IS ONE DEVELOPER THAT YOU CAN TRUST.
THEN WHAT HAS BEEN ASKED THE BIKE, UH, RACKS AT CITY LINE.
THEY INCORPORATED ART INTO 'EM.
ASK, HAVE BIKE RACKS, NICE BIKE RACKS IN THERE.
THEY WERE ASKED, AND THEY DID PUT, UH, TREES IN THE MEDIAN ON RENTER ROAD.
TO MY KNOWLEDGE, MR. MAGNER, YOU CAN, UH, AGREE OR DISAGREE, BUT PUT TREES IN A MEDIAN OF ONE OF OUR PUBLIC STREETS.
UH, THEY, THEY DO, LIKE I SAY, THEY GO ABOVE AND BEYOND.
THEY'RE ALREADY ADDING MORE GREEN SPACE THAN WHAT IS REQUIRED.
AND SO I CAN'T SAY, LIKE I SAY, I CAN'T SAY THIS FOR ALL THE DEVELOPERS.
I WILL ASK, UH, THERE WAS A BUILDING IN, IN FORT WORTH, HIGH-RISE BUILDING, AND Y'ALL MAY KNOW WHICH ONE IT WAS, BUT IT WAS VALUED AT $125 MILLION.
IT SOLD JUST A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO FOR $12 MILLION BECAUSE OF THE LOSS OF VALUE IN THAT.
I DON'T WANT TO SEE CITYLINE DO THAT WITH LACK OF RETAIL.
SO PLEASE DON'T LET, UH, CITY LINE FALL INTO THIS SCENARIO WITH LACK OF SUPPORT.
MS. ER, I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER CARDS, MAYOR.
ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE CHOOSE TO SPEAK? WELL, THANK YOU.
I LIVE AT 33 0 8 CALLAWAY COURT, RICHARDSON, TEXAS.
I'M HERE TO TALK ON, UH, ZONING FILE 24 11.
I WANT TO THANK THE MAYOR, THE COUNCIL STAFF.
I WANT TO THANK THE APPLICANT AND THE RESIDENTS THAT HAVE VOICED THEIR OPINIONS, CONCERNS, OR SUPPORT.
I'M NOT HERE TO SAY YES OR NO, THAT'S WHY THEY PAY YOU GUYS THE BIG BUCKS.
UM, BUT I'M HERE TO PUT A LITTLE CONTEXT INTO THE HISTORY OF CITY LINE.
MY, UH, MY INVOLVEMENT AND SUPPORT OF PAST ACTIONS AT CITY LINE.
A TRUE TOD MULTI-USE DEVELOPMENT ARE WELL DOCUMENTED.
IN 2012, AS STATED EARLIER, THE CITY COUNCIL AND STAFF WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM TO CONSIDER THE CITY LINE FORM-BASED, UH, DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
FUTURE COUNCILS ADDED THIS TYPE OF CODE TO ADDITIONAL ORDINANCES.
AND AT CITY LINE IN THIS PARTICULAR DISTRICT, THE INTENT IS TO ALLOW DEVELOPERS TO PROVIDE PRODUCTS THAT FIT INTO MARKET CONDITIONS WHILE ENSURING HIGH QUALITY URBAN DESIGN THAT IS BUILT TO DELIVER MANY DECADES OF VALUE AND FLEXIBLE ENOUGH TO SERVE MULTIPLE PURPOSES OVER THE LIFE OF THE PROJECT.
THESE CODES ALSO HAD SOME NEGOTIATIONS, CONS, UH, CONDITIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THEM.
IN THE CASE OF RESIDENTIAL BUILD OUT, UH, GUARDRAILS WERE ESTABLISHED TO MAKE SURE THERE WAS A BALANCE BASED ON PUBLIC FEEDBACK THAT THE PREVIOUS COUNCILS TOOK TO HEART.
AT THE FIRST CPC MEETING, I SPOKE ON, UH, WHAT, UH, SHOWCASE CITY LINE IS HOW IT IS A MIXED USE, EMPLOYMENT, RESIDENTIAL, AND RETAIL.
BUT TO TRULY BE SUCCESSFUL, CERTAIN THINGS NEED TO HAPPEN.
WE NEED MANY EMPLOYERS, NOT JUST A STATE FARMER.
RAYTHEON, A DIVERSE RESIDENTIAL OFFERING.
APARTMENTS, TOWN HOMES, SINGLE FAMILY, LIVE WORK OPTIONS, MULTI-STORY, MORE THAN FIVE STORIES STICK CONSTRUCTION.
WE NEED CONCRETE AND STEEL CONSTRUCTION.
THESE CAN BE APARTMENTS OR CONDOMINIUMS AS STATED.
THERE'S, UH, THERE'S MUCH DISCUSSION AND FEEDBACK
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ON THIS TOPIC THROUGH, UH, ENVISION RICHARDSON.THE SURVEY WAS CONCLUDED THIS, UH, THIS SUNDAY RETAIL THAT, UH, SERVES THE DEVELOPMENT AND OVERALL AREA.
RICHARDSON, PLANO, MURPHY GARLAND, ALLEN, AND MANY OTHER CITIES.
A TRUE MIX OF RESTAURANTS, SHOPS, AND SERVICES.
I DISCUSSED THE FOUR-LEGGED STOOL AT THE CPC MEETING.
WHAT I STILL SEE MISSING AFTER 10 YEARS, UH, IS ENTERTAINMENT.
WE DISCUSSED THE MOVIE THEATER AND WERE CONSIDERATIONS AND WHY IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
WE HAVE BEEN WAITING, UH, FOR THE APPROVED ENTERTAINMENT OPTIONS BEHIND THE AL LOFT.
WHAT DO, UH, THESE TWO EFFORTS HAVE IN COMMON? KDC AS THE DEVELOPER SOLD THE PROPERTIES AND LOST CONTROL OF CHOOSING PARTNERS AND SIGNING AGREEMENTS? WELL, SELLING OFF SIGNIFICANT PORTIONS OF THE 62.5 REMAINING ACRES MAKE, UH, ENTERTAINMENT EASIER.
NO, UM, NO ONE IN THIS ROOM WANTS TO SEE CITYLINE CONTINUE TO BE BUILT OUT AND REMAIN THE STANDARD OF TRUE TRANSIT-ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT MORE THAN ME.
I PUT THE, UH, 10 YEARS PARTICIPATING IN MULTIPLE HEARINGS ON THIS PROJECT.
ONE OF THE KEY FEATURES HERE IS ARE WE GOING TO BE AN EMPLOYMENT CENTER OR BEDROOM COMMUNITY? IF YOU DO ALL SEVEN PROJECTS, ALL TEXAS WRAPS, THERE'LL ONLY BE ABOUT 400,000 SQUARE FOOT LEFT FOR ADDITIONAL OFFICE OF THE 2 MILLION THAT'S POTENTIALLY THERE RIGHT NOW.
SO THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING AT CITY LINE MAY HELP SOME OF THE RETAIL, BUT MORE LIKELY THEY'LL GET ON THAT DARK TRAIN OR IN THEIR CAR AND TRAVEL TO PLANO OR DALLAS OR ALLEN FOR THEIR EMPLOYMENT.
I DON'T THINK THAT WAS THE ULTIMATE VISION OF CITY LINE, AND I DON'T BELIEVE TEXAS WRAPS WERE THE USES NECESSARILY ENVISIONED WHEN WE CAME TO FORM-BASED ZONING.
SO AGAIN, I, I AM SO PROUD OF CITY LINE.
I AM PROUD OF WHAT KDC HAS DONE, NOT JUST THERE, BUT ALL THROUGH THIS CITY.
I'M NOT SAYING AGAIN HOW YOU SHOULD VOTE, BUT I DO THINK THERE ARE CONSIDERATIONS HERE FOR BECOMING AN EMPLOYMENT CENTER THAT CAN COMPETE WITH DALLAS PLANO, ALAN FRISCO, MCKINNEY, ALL OF THOSE.
I WOULD ASK AT THIS TIME, ARE THERE ANY MORE SPEAKERS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT'D LIKE TO COME FORWARD? ALRIGHT, SEE YOU.
NONE, MRS. NEER, YOU HAVE NO MORE? ALRIGHT.
MAYOR, IF THERE'S NO MORE SPEAKERS, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE, UH, UM, COMMUNITY, NOT COMMUNITY, I'M SORRY, THE, UM, PUBLIC HEARING.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
COULD I GET A VOTE, PLEASE? ALL IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
WAS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION AT THIS TIME THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MR. CORPORATE? UH, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.
UM, YOU KNOW, I I FEEL LIKE I CAN'T REBUT THE, UH, THE ARGUMENT THAT'S A STRAIN ON NATURAL RESOURCES.
I THINK THAT'S A CONSIDERATION AND A TRADE OFF THAT WE MAKE EVERY TIME WE VOTE TO APPROVE OR NOT APPROVE, UM, A DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS.
BUT WHAT I, WHAT I CAN SAY IS THAT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF HAVING DART HERE THAT I SEE, UH, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, ONE STATION UP, THERE ARE TWO COMMUNITY THEATERS IN DOWNTOWN PLANO.
TWO STATIONS UP, YOU'RE RIGHT BESIDE, UH, A BOWLING ALLEY.
YOU GO DOWN ONE STATION AND YOU'RE BY THE EISMAN.
AND SOON ENOUGH, IF YOU GO, UH, WEST ONE STATION, YOU'LL BE AT UTD WITH EVERYTHING THEY HAVE TO OFFER.
SO I FEEL LIKE ALL THESE AREAS, IF THERE IS SOMETHING LACKING IN ONE SPACE FOR THE RESIDENTS, UM, IT, YOU CAN FIND IT IN ANOTHER SPACE NEARBY.
AND THEY ALL SORT OF WORK WITH EACH OTHER TO CREATE THAT ECOSYSTEM.
UM, AND I THINK IN JUST REGARDING THINKING A LOT ABOUT THE CPC VOTE AND HOW THAT PLAYS INTO THE, MY DECISION, MY VOTE TONIGHT, YOU KNOW, THE WAY I FEEL IS THAT CPC LOOKED AS THE PLAN AT THE PLAN AS IS AND MADE A DECISION TO SAY, HEY, THIS DIDN'T QUITE FIT IN WITH THE PLAN THAT COUNCIL HAD PROVIDED TO THEM.
AND, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY REALLY ONLY WORK WITH THE PLANS THAT WE GIVE THEM.
SO I THINK IF THERE'S SOME ENHANCEMENTS TO THE PLAN THAT NEED TO HAPPEN, UM, IT'S UP TO US
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TO PROVIDE THOSE ENHANCEMENTS.RIGHT? AND, AND I'M WORRIED THAT IF WE DON'T PROVIDE ENHANCEMENTS TO THE PLAN, IF WE DON'T VOTE YES ON THIS, THAT THE RETAIL HERE, WHAT WHAT WE HAVE FROM THE PLAN THAT'S BEEN BUILT OUT AS FAR AS THE RETAIL WILL CONTINUE TO STRUGGLE.
UM, OR WILL, YOU KNOW, AT A MINIMUM JUST STALL OUT.
AND SO I FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD VOTE YES ON THIS FOR THOSE REASONS.
UM, WHEN I RAN BOTH TIMES THE FIRST TIME UNSUCCESSFULLY IN WHAT I RAN LAST SPRING, ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS DEFINITELY A BIG CRITIC OF TIMES IN THAT PREVIOUS COUNCILS HAVE MOVED AWAY FROM VISIONS.
AND, UH, I KNOW THAT WAS BROUGHT UP EARLIER.
I FORGET BY WHO THAT YOU MOVING AWAY FROM THE VISION IF WE APPROVE THIS.
AND WHILE I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF QUICKLY MOVING AWAY FROM VISIONS, I FEEL LIKE THIS IS THE ONE UNIQUE AREA OF THE CITY WHERE WE CAN INCLUDE INCREASED DENSITY.
IT'S NOT ADJACENT TO SINGLE FAMILY.
IT HAS THE, YOU KNOW, THE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT.
IT'S AT THE INTERSECTION, TWO MAJOR EXPRESSWAYS OR THE TOLLWAY IN 75, AND IT COULD HANDLE THE INCREASE.
IT'S ALSO IN A PART OF THE CITY THAT HAS THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE.
YOU KNOW, IF WE WERE DOING THIS, YOU KNOW, ON SOUTHEAST OR SOUTHWEST SIDE OF THE CITY, YOU KNOW, WE'D RUN INTO ISSUES WITH INFRASTRUCTURE.
UM, MAYBE NOT BE ABLE TO HANDLE THAT INCREASE.
BUT I, I FEEL LIKE WHERE IT IS, WHILE IT'S NOT IDEAL AND UH, I WOULD MUCH RATHER SEE A STEEL SOMETHING HIGHER, UM, OTHER THAN A STICK AND WRAP BUILDING, I FEEL THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, UM, IF WE'RE GONNA DO IT ANYWHERE, THIS IS THE PLACE TO DO IT.
UH, TO HAVE THIS KIND OF INCREASE.
AND AT THE SAME TIME MAKE THIS AN EFFORT TO, UM, NOT ABANDON THE VISION, BUT ADJUST THE VISION POST COVID.
AND THE REALITY A LOT HAS CHANGED POST COVID.
AND, UM, WE, WE NEED TO RE REMAIN A LITTLE FLEXIBLE IF WE WANT TO SEE THIS SUCCEED.
UH, WE'VE, I, WAS IT 12 OR 12 YEARS IN, I BELIEVE IS WHAT WE'RE INTO THIS.
AND UM, SURE THESE STICK AND WRAPS DON'T HAVE LONGEVITY OF A STEEL BUILDING, BUT YOU KNOW, IT COMING IN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE STILL SEVERAL YEARS FROM BUILDING BY THE TIME IT'S ALL GONNA AGE AROUND THE SAME RATE.
'CAUSE WE'RE PUTTING IN, YOU KNOW, IF WE WERE ALL PUT IT IN AT THE SAME TIME, THEN YEAH, WE'D HAVE ISSUES OF, UH, AGING DIFFERENTLY.
BUT THE FACT THAT IT'S GOING IN SO MUCH LATER, I THINK IT'S GONNA AGE WELL AND IT CAN AGE TOGETHER.
SO I AM, BECAUSE OF ALL THAT, UM, WHILE IT IS A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT CHANGE OF PLAN FROM THE ORIGINAL VISION, I FEEL THAT IT'S, IT'S AN ADJUSTMENT TO MARKET AND, UM, I'M LEANING TOWARDS APPROVING THIS.
RICHARDSON, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE MUCH LAND AND, UH, THE LAND PRICE HAS GONE UP SO MUCH.
AND ALSO GOING UP, JUST RECENTLY WE HAD APPROVED, UM, UH, DEVELOPMENT, UH, I THINK ABOUT 1600 SQUARE FEET.
UH, UNIT CONDOMINIUM TOWN HOMES WOULD BE ABOUT 500,000 PLUS THEY'RE EXPECTING TO SELL.
BY THE TIME THEY BUILD, IT'S GONNA BE PROBABLY MORE THAN 600,000.
UH, AND, UH, SO YOU KNOW, THAT LAND IS VERY IMPORTANT AND, UH, AND ALSO THAT'S THE PLACE THAT DENSITY CAN GO UP REALLY THERE.
UH, THAT'S, THAT'S ONE OF THE IDEAL PLACES TO HAVE MORE DENSITY.
UH, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT, I THINK THE VISION STILL COULD BE THE SAME, UH, BRINGING MORE OTHER, UH, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT USE DIFFERENT THINGS IF WE CAN UTILIZE THE LAND MORE CAREFULLY.
BUT AGAIN, DICTATING A BUSINESS IS DIFFICULT OR IT'S NOT GOOD IDEA FOR OUTSIDER TO COME TO DICTATE SOMETHING AS HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED, YOU KNOW, ALMOST 2000 UNIT.
SO, UH, AND THAT WOULD'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW, THOSE STICKS AND THINGS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
UH, AND THAT WAS ALREADY THERE.
SO, UH, IF WE APPROVE THIS THING, ANOTHER THOUSAND, SO THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT IT WOULD GO HIGH RISE, WHICH I CAN HOPE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, ABSOLUTELY WE CANNOT DICTATE THAT EITHER BECAUSE SOMETHING ELSE HAS BEEN ALREADY APPROVED PREVIOUSLY.
SO THAT WOULD GIVE WRONG MESSAGE TO THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY THAT RICHARDSON IS NOT BUSINESS FRIENDLY.
THAT'S THE THINGS WE ARE MOST PROUD OF MOST, YOU KNOW, ALL THE TIME.
UH, AND UH, THAT MEANS NOT PUTTING SO MUCH CONDITION, BUT ALSO
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SAME TIME KEEPING THE VISION THAT WHAT WE HAVE AND WISH.UH, SO I WOULD STILL SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, KDC IS VERY REPUTABLE COMPANY, UH, UH, AND I SEE SOME OF THE PICTURES.
IT LOOKS GOOD THAT THEIR CONSTRUCTIONS ARE GOOD, GOOD CONSTRUCTION, UH, AND, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, HAVING A WHOLE FOOD THERE, THAT'S A, THAT'S A GREAT THINGS.
WE DON'T REALLY HAVE THAT MUCH WITHIN, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST, UH, I DON'T LIVE THAT CLOSE, BUT STILL I DRIVE THERE.
UH, AND UH, SO WITH THAT, I THINK I HAVE, I WOULD BE SUPPORTING THIS MOVING FORWARD.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. DORIAN.
UM, I JUST WANNA SAY WITH EVERYTHING THAT WAS JUST SAID, I, UH, I UNDERSTAND THE MARKET CHANGES AND THINGS CHANGE AND THINGS ARE GONNA CHANGE IN THE FUTURE.
I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND, AND, AND I'M NOT QUITE SURE IF THIS IS THE MOMENT TO INTERJECT THIS, UH, TO TRY TO PUT A CONDITION IN THERE TO POTENTIALLY ELEVATE THE FIRST LEVEL AT ABOUT 15, AT 15 FEET AND ALLOW THIS TO BE STILL AND CONCRETE.
AND IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN ADD INTO THE SUGGESTED, UH, MOTION? MR. MAGNER? I DON'T THINK YOU, WE CANNOT DICTATE THE CONSTRUCTION TYPE THAT'S NOT, UH, WITHIN OUR PURVIEW ANYMORE.
THE STATE OF TEXAS HAS TAKEN THAT, UM, AWAY FROM US AND IT CAN'T DICTATE TYPE OF MATERIALS OR, UH, FACADES, ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
SO, BUT LET ME, LET ME, UM, LET ME STATE IT A DIFFERENT WAY.
UNDER THE INTERNATIONAL, UH, COMMERCIAL BUILDING CODE, THE TALLEST YOU CAN GO BY CODE WITH A STICK INSTRUCTION IS FIVE STORIES.
AND THAT'S EITHER, UH, THAT'S WHEN IT'S ON SETTING ON TOP OF A CONCRETE PODIUM.
UM, SO ANYTHING BEYOND FIVE STORIES, SO MIDRISE OR HIGHRISE WOULD, BUT OUT OF, OUT OF BUILDING CODE WOULD HAVE TO BE EITHER A COMBINATION OF CONCRETE AND STEEL OR CONCRETE OR STEEL.
AND SO THERE'S, I THINK THE CODE IS IN PLACE ALREADY THAT WOULD DICTATE, UH, A MIDRISE B, UM, A TYPE A CONSTRUCTION VERSUS, UH, OR A TYPE A OR TYPE, UM, TYPE, UM, A UH, TWO CONSTRUCTION VERSUS LIKE A TYPE FOUR WOOD CONSTRUCTION OR, OR, OR A PODIUM AND, AND WOOD CONSTRUCTION.
SO, UM, I THINK THE CODE IS ALREADY IN PLACE TO, IF I, IF I'M UNDERSTANDING YOUR, YOUR REQUEST THAT THE, I THINK THE CODE IS ALREADY IN PLACE TO ENSURE THAT ANY MID-RISE PRODUCT WOULD BE OF A TYPE, UH, ONE CON I'M SORRY, I SAID TYPE A TYPE ONE CONSTRUCTION.
AND IF, IF, AND IF THAT IS THE DIRECTION, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T, WE DON'T END UP WITH JUST, YOU KNOW, SOME, AN INEXPENSIVE WOOD WRAP OR D MATERIALS THAT ARE GOING TO DEGRADE OR RIGHT.
SO ANY, ANYTHING OVER FIVE STORIES WOULD, WOULD BE REQUIRED TO BE, UH, TYPE AND I SAID TYPE A APP, HUNDREDS, IT'S TYPE ONE CONSTRUCTION, WHICH WOULD BE, UH, CONCRETE AND OR STEEL.
AND WHAT ABOUT THE 15 FOOT, UH, FIRST FLOOR? UM, THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD NEED TO BE CONCRETE.
SO IT COULD, THAT, CAN THAT BE A CONDITION? WELL, AGAIN, THAT'S, THAT WOULD BE IN OUR BUILDING CODE.
I WANNA MAKE SURE WE GET SOME, A QUALITY PRODUCT, BUT I'M IN SUPPORTIVE OF THIS AS WELL.
UM, I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN CORCORAN.
UM, THERE'S NOT A LOT I THINK WE CAN SAY TO HER ABOUT THE, THE UTILITY ASPECT OF THIS.
UM, BUT I ALSO, UH, SORT OF AGREE WITH THE POINT THAT IF IT'S NOT HERE, IT'S GONNA GO NORTH OF US AND THE RESOURCES ARE GONNA BE TAKEN ANYWAY OR EAST OF US OR WEST OF US OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.
SO, UM, I, I APPRECIATE THAT POINT.
UM, I'VE BEEN THE MOST VOCAL COUNCIL MEMBER ABOUT, UH, THE POINT THAT THAT WAS BROUGHT UP BY ONE OF OUR SPEAKERS TONIGHT.
UM, BUT AGAIN, I THINK THAT THOSE RESOURCES ARE GOING TO BE USED, WHETHER IT'S AT CITY LINE OR SOMEWHERE ELSE, UM, BECAUSE OF THE, THE GROWTH OF THE NORTH TEXAS REGION.
SO, UM, IT CERTAINLY IS A CONSIDERATION.
AS I SAID EARLIER, UH, EARLIER, PUBLIC SAFETY IS A CONSIDERATION WITH DEVELOPMENTS LIKE THIS.
UM, I DON'T THINK THIS IS AN, UH, AN ABANDONMENT OF THE VISION.
UM, I I DISAGREE WITH THAT, QUITE FRANKLY.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE FEAR HERE AS WAS JUST COMMUNICATED IS THAT WE'RE GONNA GET SEVERAL FIVE STORY WRAPS.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS I'M IN SUPPORT OF THIS, UM, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY TO OUR PARTNER AT KDC, YOU'VE HEARD OUR EXPECTATION TONIGHT.
OUR EXPECTATION IS THAT YOU FOLLOW THE ORIGINAL VISION, WHICH, WHETHER IT'S CONDOMINIUMS OR HIGH RISE APARTMENTS, THAT'S WHAT WE EXPECT OUT OUT OF A GREAT PARTNER THAT WE HAVE IN YOU.
UM, SO I AM IN SUPPORT OF THIS, BUT, BUT I, I DON'T THINK IT'S AN ABANDONMENT DIVISION.
UM, WE'RE JUST, WE'RE JUST GOING DI DENSER.
WE WERE ALREADY GONNA HAVE APARTMENTS THERE.
I THINK WHAT WE'RE ASKING AND WHAT YOU'RE HOPEFULLY HEARING FROM US TONIGHT, UM, IS THAT WE DON'T
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WANT A BUNCH OF FIVE STORY APARTMENT BUILDINGS.WE WANT TALLER, UH, APARTMENT BUILDINGS THAT ARE DENSER.
UM, AND SO, OR, OR CONDOMINIUM BUILDINGS, UM, FOR THAT MATTER.
SO THAT, THAT'S I THINK THE EXPECTATION OF THIS COUNCIL, UH, FOR A GREAT PARTNER WHO'S BUILT A GREAT PRODUCT.
I VISITED TWO OF THE ESTABLISHMENTS TODAY.
AND SO I THINK I, I CAN SPEAK THAT IT, IT IS A GREAT DEVELOPMENT.
IT'S A GREAT PART OF OUR CITY, AND I THINK YOU'VE HEARD FROM ALL OF OUR SPEAKERS THAT WE REALLY LOVE CITYLINE.
UM, WE JUST WANTED TO BE, UM, CLOSE TO THE ORIGINAL VISION, WHICH WAS, UH, TO HAVE, UH, BOTH OFFICE AND ENTERTAINMENT AND, UH, HIGH-RISE LIVING.
UM, AND SO I THINK YOU'VE HEARD THAT STRONGLY FROM THE COUNCIL TONIGHT THAT WE SUPPORT THE DENSITY AND WE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, MARKET WILLING.
UM, YOU, YOU, YOU DO THAT HERE.
UM, SO I, I'M IN SUPPORT OF THIS.
UM, I I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT GREAT RETAIL AND, UM, AGAIN, WOULD JUST SORT OF STRONGLY BOARD, UH, BOARD MY SUPPORT OF THIS, UM, THAT WE HAVE A VISION HERE AND WE REALLY HOPE THAT YOU STICK TO IT.
UM, I CONCUR WITH WHAT, UH, COUNCILWOMAN JUSTICE SAID, AND I THINK, I THINK AS A COUNCIL, THE RESOURCES ARE GONNA GET USED.
I THINK IT'S INCUMBENT ON US TO CONTINUE TO PUSH ON NORTH TEXAS ERCOT, UM, WHOEVER, AT MONTCO, WHOEVER IT MIGHT BE, THAT THEY NEED TO GROW WITH US, WHETHER IT BE THE OUR CITY OR OUR AREA.
AND AS SHE, AS SHE STATED, VERY, VERY APPROPRIATELY, THE RESOURCES WILL GET USED IF WE DON'T USE 'EM HERE, THEY'RE GONNA BE USED BY SOMEONE ELSE.
AND SO I THINK, I THINK WE ALWAYS HAVE TO CONTINUE TO PRESS ON THOSE WHO PROVIDE THOSE RESOURCES THAT THEY NEED TO CONTINUE.
AND I THINK WE'VE DONE THAT, UM, TO CONTINUE TO COME UP WITH MORE RESOURCES FOR OUR AREA AND COME UP WITH WAYS TO DO THAT.
I THINK WE HAVE TO BE RESPONSIBLE.
UM, AND, AND THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION THAT WE'VE HAD AS COUNCIL TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT.
UM, AND TO, TO CONTINUE TO MAKE THAT PUSH.
I HAVE TO GO BACK TO, TO 2010, UM, WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE AND HEARD A LOT ABOUT CITY LINE AND HEARD WHAT CITY LINE WANTED IT TO BE AND WHAT THE CITY WANTED IT TO BE, WHAT SAFE FARM WANTED IT TO BE.
AND AS HAS ALREADY BEEN SAID A COUPLE OF TIMES, COVID CHANGED THE WORLD.
I THINK COVID HASS CHANGED THE WORLD IN SO MANY WAYS, AND PROBABLY 50 YEARS FROM NOW, SOME SOCIOLOGIST WILL, WILL DISSECT AND TRULY HELP US ALL UNDERSTAND I WON'T BE ALIVE, BUT MAYBE JOE WILL, MAYBE HE'LL BE ABLE TO, MAY, MAY, MAYBE ABLE TO, TO, TO INTERPRET WHAT THEY'RE SAYING AS TO HOW ALL THINGS CHANGED.
UM, I LOOK AT MY TWO DAUGHTERS, THEY'RE 25 AND 22, AND I LOOK AT HOW THEY NOW GO AND HOW THEY INTERACT WITH THE WORLD.
MOVIE THEATERS ARE GREAT, AND I'M NOT, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO MOVIE THEATERS, BUT I WILL TELL YOU, THEY'RE VERY MUCH ABOUT DOWNLOADING MOVIES AND WATCHING THEM ON AN IPAD OR AN IPHONE.
THEY DON'T GO TO THE MOVIE THEATER.
THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT THEIR THING, IF YOU WILL.
UM, THEY, WE WERE, I TOOK FOUR DAYS OFF AND I SAID TO 'EM ON SATURDAY NIGHT, YOU WANNA GO SEE A MOVIE IN A MOVIE THEATER? NO, DAD, LET'S SEE WHAT'S ON NETFLIX.
LET'S SEE WHAT ELSE IS WE WANNA, WE WANNA WATCH IT ON THERE.
WE DON'T WANNA GO TO A MOVIE THEATER.
SO I THINK, I THINK WHAT WAS CONTEMPLATED BACK IN 2010 WAS VERY STRONG AND WAS VERY GOOD, BUT I THINK THE WORLD'S CHANGED.
WE DIDN'T CONTROL THAT CHANGE.
STATE FARM DIDN'T CONTROL THAT CHANGE.
CHANGE CITY CERTAINLY DIDN'T CONTROL THAT CHANGE.
SO I THINK WE HAVE TO MAKE CHANGES.
WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO, TO MAKE SMALL MOVEMENTS TO TRY TO CONTINUE TO MOVE DEVELOPMENTS LIKE CITY LINE FORWARD.
I THINK IT WAS COUNCILWOMAN JUSTICE WHO SAID THAT WE'RE NOT CHANGING FROM THE VISION, WE'RE JUST SLIGHTLY ALTERING.
WE'RE MAKING LITTLE, LITTLE SMALL CHAIN, A LITTLE, A LITTLE DEVIATION TO SUPPORT, BUT THAT THE VISION IS STILL THERE.
AND, AND I APPRECIATE WHAT SHE SAID TO OUR DEVELOPER, AND I WOULD ECHO WHAT SHE SAYS AS WELL TO KDC OF YOU.
YOU KNOW, WHAT WE WANT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE, WHAT WE WANT.
WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING WITH YOU, UM, IN MAKING THIS, UM, MODIFICATION.
SO PLEASE DON'T, PLEASE DON'T LOSE VISION OF WHAT WE WANT.
UM, AND SO I JUST WANTED TO ECHO WHAT SHE SAID.
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TOUGH, BECAUSE WE DO, UM, AS WAS POINTED OUT, THE, THE, THE, THE VOTE, UM, THAT CAME TO US WAS TWICE.UM, AND THERE WAS, I KNOW THERE WAS IRE SOME ISSUES WITH THAT, BUT STILL, UM, DENYING IT.
SO IT'S, IT'S ALWAYS TOUGH WHENEVER WE GET THOSE THAT COME TO US.
IT'S HAPPENED A COUPLE OF TIMES SINCE I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL OVER THE LAST, GOING ON SIX YEARS NOW.
AND IT'S ALWAYS TOUGH TO SIT THERE AND, AND SAY, WOW, OKAY, SO WHAT WAS IT THAT CPC WAS HEARING VERSUS WHAT ARE WE HEARING? WHAT'S OUR VIEW ON IT VERSUS THEIR VIEW ON IT? AND SO I'VE REALLY, I, I'VE TAKEN A LOT OF OF THOUGHT, BUT THE ONE THING I DID DO IS I WENT AND I DROVE SATURDAY NIGHT CITY LINE.
'CAUSE I WANTED TO SEE, UM, YOU KNOW, ALL, ALL THE DISCUSSION OF WHAT'S GOING ON, IT'S THERE, IT'S VIABLE.
IT'S, IT'S ON A SATURDAY NIGHT, THIS PAST SATURDAY NIGHT, THERE'S VIBRANCY AND IF, IF THIS CAN HELP THAT VIBRANCY WITH A SMALL TWEAK, I DON'T THINK IT'S A MAJOR, WE'RE NOT MAKING A MAJOR, MAJOR LATERAL MOVE.
I THINK IF WE CAN DO THAT AND CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE VIBRANCY AND COMPORT AND SUPPORT CLINE, THEN I THINK WE NEED TO DO THAT.
AND SO FOR ALL OF THOSE REASONS, UM, AND DISCUSSION, I'M, I'M, I'M DEFINITELY THINK THAT I'M IN FAVOR OF, OF MOVING FORWARD ON THIS, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
CAN I MAKE ONE MORE QUICK COMMENT HERE? PLEASE TAKE, YEAH, WELL, NO, THAT'S GREAT.
I THINK EVERYTHING HAS BEEN SAID, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ENTERTAINMENT.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE MOVIE THEATER, IT COULD BE MANY OTHER WAY.
UH, YOU KNOW, THE KIDS, THEY GO ON IPAD DEFINITELY MUCH FASTER THAN I CAN SEE WHAT THEY'RE WATCHING.
UH, SO THE DEFINITION, IT EXPANDING ON THE ENTERTAINMENT, BUT THE IDEA OF ENTERTAINMENT IS CHANGING.
SO STILL, I WOULD SAY THAT THE ORIGINAL VISION IT HAD, IT MIGHT HAVE THE MOVIE THEATER IN IT ELEMENT, BUT SINCE IF IT CHANGE THE NEXT GENERATION, SO WHAT, BUT STILL HUMAN, THEY'LL NEED ENTERTAINMENT.
SO WHEN THERE IS LIKE 5,000 FAMILY LEAVES SOMEWHERE, THEY WOULD BE LOOKING FOR SOME KIND OF ENTERTAINMENT.
SO, UH, I'M SURE YOU'RE GONNA FIGURE OUT WHAT'S THERE, BUT DON'T FORGET THE WORD ENTERTAINMENT.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS JUST GONNA TELL YOU.
I'D LIKE TO ADD A COUPLE THINGS THAT I I THAT HAVEN'T BEEN MENTIONED, AND I WANT TO GIVE CASEY SOME CREDIT, SOME KUDOS BECAUSE THEY DID OFFER UP TO TWO OF THE HOA PRESIDENTS THEY OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT.
AND NEITHER ONE OF THOSE HOA PRESIDENTS TOOK THEM UP ON THAT.
BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT WASN'T THERE.
SO I, I WANNA SAY THAT THAT'S IMPORTANT TO US, THAT, UH, WE HAVE COMPANIES THAT ARE WILLING TO LISTEN TO WHAT OUR COMMUNITY HAS TO SAY AND THE VALUE OF WHAT THOSE INDIVIDUALS HAVE TO SAY.
SO I WANNA THANK THEM FOR THAT.
I'D ALSO LIKE TO SAY THAT THREE EDGEWOOD INVESTED IN OUR CITY.
THEY DO VERY, VERY WELL, BUT THEY HAVE A VISION VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT THE PREVIOUS COUNCILS HAD AND WHAT THIS COUNCIL HAS, THEY HAD A VISION AND THEY INVESTED HUGELY IN CITY LINE.
THERE ARE SOME PROMINENT RESTAURANTS THERE IN CITY LINE THAT DON'T EVEN PAY THE FULL AMOUNT OF RENT, BUT YOU JUST NOT
I THOUGHT MAYBE I SAID SOMETHING WRONG.
SO THEY DON'T EVEN PAY THE FULL RENT FOR LEASING THE PROPERTY THAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY IN.
AND THREE EDGEWOOD IS ALLOWING THAT SO THAT THEY CAN STAY AFLOAT.
SO THEY HAVE THAT VISION COMING FORWARD, BUT IT'S A TEAM EFFORT.
I KNOW THAT THE CITY OF RICHARDSON, WE'VE WORKED HARD BEHIND THE WHOLE CITY LINE CONCEPT.
WHAT ARE WE WAITING ON? WE'RE WAITING ON ANOTHER KDC TO MOVE TO STEP UP.
WE'RE WAITING ON THE SILVER LINE TO FINISH IT UP.
WE TALK ABOUT THE NEIGHBORS AROUND US.
THAT'S THE CONNECTIVITY THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT.
WE ARE A REGIONAL HUB, WE'RE A REGIONAL DESTINATION, AND THE SILVER LINE IS GONNA DO SOME OF THOSE THINGS.
WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT'S TAKING PLACE AT UTD THAT WAS MENTIONED, AND THOSE ARE JUST ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT ARE GONNA ADD TO THIS.
IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AND I REALLY BELIEVE IT'S GONNA HAPPEN.
SO I'M VERY EXCITED THAT THE COUNCIL HAS A CLEAR VISION AND CAN PROJECT THAT OUT TO WHAT IT COULD BE.
SO WITH THAT, I HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO SAY.
IT LOOKS LIKE MR. HUTCHIN RIDER WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.
I WOULD, MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION IF, IF THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS, I'D LIKE TO MAKE
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A MOTION TO APPROVE ZONING FILE 24 DASH 11 AS PRESENTED.COULD I GET A SECOND MR. BARRIOS? I'LL SECOND.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
[9. PUBLIC HEARING, ZONING FILE 24-12, A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF A SPECIAL PERMIT FOR A 2,758 SQUARE FOOT SPECIAL EVENT CENTER LOCATED WITHIN A 10,630 SQUARE FOOT RETAIL BUILDING OF A 43,714 SQUARE FOOT SHOPPING CENTER LOCATED NORTHEAST OF THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF E. CAMPBELL ROAD AND N. PLANO ROAD. THE 4.4-ACRE SITE IS ZONED LR-M(2) LOCAL RETAIL. ]
US TO ITEM NUMBER NINE, PUBLIC HEARING ZONING FILE 24 12.A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF A SPECIAL PERMIT FOR A 2,758 SQUARE FOOT SPECIAL EVENT CENTER LOCATED NORTHEAST OF THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF EAST CAMPBELL ROAD AND NORTH PLANO ROAD.
UH, SAM CHAVEZ IS GONNA AGAIN PRESENT THE CITY PRESENTATION AND I BELIEVE THE, UH, APPLICANT IS HERE AS WELL AND, UH, WILL BE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
UH, THIS IS ZONING FILE 24 DASH 12.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 1403 EAST CAMPBELL ROAD THAT IS NORTHEAST OF THE NORTH, UH, NORTHEAST INTERSECTION OF, UH, EAST CAMPBELL ROAD AND NORTH PLANO ROAD.
THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED LRM TWO, WHICH IS A LOCAL RETAIL DISTRICT, AND THE APPLICANTS IS REQUESTING FOR APPROVAL OF A SPECIAL PERMIT FOR A SPECIAL EVENT CENTER.
A SPECIAL EVENT CENTER IS NOT DEFINED OR LOCATED IN OUR, IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE.
THEREFORE, UH, THE APPLICANT IS, UH, OR HAS THE ABILITY TO APPLY FOR A SPECIAL PERMIT.
THE NEXT, UH, COUPLE SLIDES KINDA SHOW YOU THE, THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT ON SITE.
UH, YOU CAN SEE, UH, LOOKING NORTH, YOU CAN SEE INWARD TOWARD THE SHOPPING CENTER.
THE PHOTO ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE SCREEN SHOWS YOU THE, UM, THE TECH UNDER, UH, PARKING.
UH, THEY'RE LOCATED ON THE OUTSIDE PERIMETER OF, OF THESE BUILDINGS.
UH, THEY'RE ABOUT 180, UM, PARKING SPACES ON THAT SITE.
UH, YOU'RE LOOKING WEST OR THE BACK END OF THIS BUILDING, UH, ON THE PHOTO TO THE LEFT.
AND, AND OF COURSE THE, THE LAST PHOTO SHOWS YOU THE, UH, THE SPACE IN THE FAR BACKGROUND OF WHERE THESE, UH, PROPOSED, UH, SPECIAL EVENT, UH, CENTER WILL BE LOCATED.
THE SITE ITSELF IS 4.4 ACRES IN SIGHT.
UH, THERE'S A TOTAL BUILDING AREA OF 43,000, UM, 700 SQUARE FEET.
AND RIGHT NOW THAT, THAT, UH, INCLUDES THE THREE BUILDINGS.
THE SUBJECT BUILDING THAT THE PROPOSED, UM, EVENT CENTER WILL BE LOCATED IN IS 10,600 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE.
THE SUBJECT LEASE SPACE IS 2,800.
UH, THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSING A TOTAL OF 28 SPACES FOR THE EVENT CENTER.
UH, THERE IS NO PARKING RATIO FOR A EVENT CENTER.
UH, THEREFORE THE APPLICANT T PROVIDE SOME, UH, ONSITE PARKING STUDIES OF SOME, UH, OTHER, OTHER FACILITIES THAT HE HAS IN KELLER IRVING AND LOUISVILLE.
HE ALSO DID A PARKING STUDY AND HE DID THOSE ON THE WEEKENDS, WHICH IS WHEN THIS, UH, SPECIAL EVENT CENTER PLANS TO OPERATE.
UH, AND THOSE, UH, THOSE NUMBERS OF A, OF AVAILABLE PARKING SPACES, I BELIEVE WORST CASE SCENARIO, THERE WOULD BE 244 AVAILABLE PARKING SPACES, UH, DURING THEIR PERIODS OF OPERATION.
UH, AS CURRENTLY DEVELOPED, THE SITE WOULD REQUIRE 315 PARKING SPACES.
THEY ARE PROVIDING 335, UH, PARKING SPACES.
THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF GUESTS THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED FOR THIS FACILITY WOULD BE 49.
THAT NUMBER IS BASED ON THE OCCUPANCY, UH, FOR THAT LEASE SPACE AND FIRE AND BUILDING CODES.
AND THE, UH, AND THE, UH, PROPOSED HOURS OF OPERATION ARE SATURDAY AND SUNDAY ONLY FROM 10:00 AM UH, TO 10:00 PM HERE'S SOME PHOTOS OF SOME OF THE INTERIOR PORTIONS OF IT.
I THINK, UH, IT'S IN YOUR STAFF REPORT THAT THEY ESSENTIALLY PROVIDE THE SPACE, UH, PROVIDE THE DECORATIONS AND PROVIDE ONE STAFF MEMBER TO HELP OUT WITH, WITH, UH, SETUP AND, AND, AND CLEAN UP AT THE END OF THE EVENT.
SO THE CITY COUNCIL, UH, I'M SORRY, THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION, UH, CONSIDERED THIS, UH, REQUEST ON JUNE 4TH.
UH, THERE ARE NO PUBLIC COMMENTS RECEIVED.
UH, AND THERE ARE NO, UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS IN YOUR PACKET.
UH, THE COMMISSION VOTED, UH, SEVEN ZERO TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST.
UH, CITY COUNCIL TONIGHT MAY APPROVE THE REQUEST AS PRESENTED, APPROVE IT WITH CONDITIONS OR AMEN CONDITIONS OR DENY THE REQUEST.
UH, SHOULD YOU CHOOSE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL, UH, THERE, THERE A SET OF SIX CONDITIONS THAT WOULD GO ALONG WITH THE, UH, WITH THE REQUEST.
THE SPECIAL EVENTS CENTER WOULD BE LIMITED.
THE AREA AS SHOWN ON THE CONCEPT PLAN SPECIAL PERMIT WOULD BE LIMITED TO, UH, MAR KIDS'S FUND AND PARTY LCC.
THE SPECIAL PERMIT EXPIRES AND TERMINATES IN ACCORDANCE WITH ARTICLE 22,
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A SECTION SEVEN OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UH, UH, OPERATION, UH, WOULD BE LIMITED TO SATURDAY AND SUNDAY FROM 10:00 AM TO 10:00 PM THE SITE WOULD BE LIMITED TO 49 GUESTS, AND THE PARKING RATIO WOULD BE ONE SPACE PER 100 SQUARE FEET OF LEASE AREA.I KNOW THE APPLICANTS ARE HERE TONIGHT AND, UH, I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
COUNSEL, ANY QUESTIONS FOR SAM? MR. HUTCHER? RUTTER.
SAM, CAN YOU GO BACK RIGHT THERE.
OKAY, SO YOU, YOU CONFUSED ME.
SO LET ME SEE IF I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO SAY.
SO THE OVERALL BUILDING ITSELF IS 43,714.
SO THE, THE PARKING THAT IS THERE FOR THAT 43,000 IS THE 335 SPACES? YES.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YES, SIR.
AND THE 43,714 SQUARE FEET ACTUALLY ONLY REQUIRES 315.
SO IT'S IN ESSENCE OVERBUILT BY 20 SPACES.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YES, SIR.
SO WHAT YOU'RE ALSO SAYING IS THAT FOR THAT, THAT THAT 2,800 SQUARE FEET, THEY NEED 28 SPACES.
AND SO ARE THEY, IS IT THAT THEY'RE THAT'RE, IN ESSENCE, LEASING THE 2,800 SQUARE, I'M SORRY, THE 2,800 THAT'S NOT RIGHT, THE 28 SPACES WITH, I MEAN, IS THAT A PART OF THEIR LEASE FOR THE 2,800 SQUARE FEET? IS THAT, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING TO US? I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED AS TO TO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ON THAT.
SO THE SITE IS REQUIRED BASED ON THE TENANT MIX.
THEY'RE REQUIRED 315 PARKING SPACES.
AND THEY'RE, AND THEY'RE OVER BY 20 PARKING SPACES BASED ON WHAT THEY'RE PROVIDING NOW, AS PART OF THEIR SPECIAL PERMIT REQUESTS, WE ASK THEM TO DO A PARKING COUNT TO ENSURE THAT THERE WAS AMPLE PARKING DURING THOSE TIMES THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING FOR THEIR OPERATION.
AND WE, AND WE WERE ABLE TO CONFIRM THOSE NUMBERS.
SO IN ESSENCE, WHAT THEY DID IS THEY LOOKED AT THE OTHER THREE SITES THAT THEY HAVE IN THE METROPLEX, AND BASED ON THAT NUMBER, THEY MADE THE, THE, UH, THEY PROPOSED A PARKING RATIO FOR THAT SPECIFIC USE AT THAT LOCATION AT ONE SPACE PER 100 SQUARE FEET.
THAT THOSE 28 PARKING SPACES THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING ARE BUILT INTO THAT NUMBER.
BUT THE REASON THAT WE PUT THE PARKING RATIO IN THERE IS IF THAT TENANT MIX CHANGES THAT REQUIRES MORE PARKING SPACES, THAT SITE, THAT USE WOULD STILL REQUIRE AT A MINIMUM OF 28 PARKING SPACES, THE ADJUSTMENT WOULD HAVE TO HAPPEN THROUGH A PD AMENDMENT OR A PARKING VARIANCE IN ORDER TO ADJUST THAT NUMBER.
IF THAT, UH, TOOK ON A, A DIFFERENT TENANT MIX.
IN OTHER WORDS, IT WENT FROM RETAIL TO RESTAURANT, WHICH IS ALMOST TWICE THE AMOUNT THAT THE RETAIL, RIGHT.
AND, AND SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, IS DO WE, DO WE AS THE CITY, WHEN THEY LEASE THE 2,800 SQUARE FEET, DO WE REQUIRE THAT IN THE LEASE THAT THEY'RE LEASING OR THEY'RE ASSURED OF THE 28 SPACES? NO, SIR.
WE DON'T, WE DON'T, NOT IN THE LEASE.
WE WILL, WHEN THIS TENANT MIX CHANGES TO MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT 28 PLUS WHATEVER THEY'RE GONNA NEED FROM A TENANT MIX.
AND, AND, AND WHAT IS EL WHAT ELSE IS IN THE BUILDING RIGHT NOW? THERE'S RESTAURANTS, THERE'S OFFICES, THERE'S RETAIL, UH, SO SOME OF THE OFFICE COULD CONVERT TO, TO RESTAURANT, WHICH IS ALMOST TWO AND A HALF TIMES THE AMOUNT OF PARKING.
SO WE HAVE, UM, PARKING DATA TABLES THAT HELP US AS USES COME IN AND THEY APPLY FOR CERTIFICATES OF OCCUPANCY TO MAKE SURE WHEN THEY MEET CODE, AND IF THEY DON'T, THEN WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS? AND WE WOULD CATCH THAT DURING THE BUILDING PERMITTING? YES, SIR.
SO THAT, THAT'S HOW WE CAN, IN ESSENCE, ASSURE THAT THE 28 SPACES ARE AVAILABLE IN THE EVENT THAT THERE IS A, IS A CHANGE IN THE MIX OF, OF, OKAY.
ALRIGHT, THAT, THAT CLEARS IT UP FOR ME.
I JUST DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU WERE SAYING TO US.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? OKAY.
AT THIS TIME I CALL THE APPLICANT TO COME UP, MAKE ANY PRESENTATIONS OR ADDITIONAL ITEMS THEY'D LIKE FOR US TO HEAR.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
UH, GOODNIGHT LADIES AND JENS.
MY NAME IS ERIC BERRA AND I LIVE IN, UH, I LIVE, UH, MY ADDRESS IS 1165 SOUTH S FREEWAY IN LOUISVILLE, TEXAS.
UH, WE ARE HERE TO SPEAK JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR BUSINESS.
WE ARE, UH, A PARTY VENUE, UH, AND AROUND LIKE 60%
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OF OUR PARTIES, THEY ARE FOR KIDS.AND WE HAVE AROUND LIKE 30 TO 35% OF THE OTHER PARTIES.
THEY ARE FOR LIKE A BABY SHOWERS.
AND MOST OF THE PARTIES, THEY ARE CELEBRATE ON, UH, SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS BECAUSE IT'S WHEN THE PEOPLE THEY USUALLY ARE, ARE FREE.
UH, WE, UH, BRING, UH, A SPACE FOR, UH, LIMITED SPACE, UH, TIME, SORRY, WHICH IS AT TWO HOURS, UH, THREE HOURS AND FOUR HOURS AS THE, THAT'S THE AVERAGE OF OUR PARTIES.
AND WE BRING THE SPACE WITH THE DECORATIONS.
UM, ALSO WE CALL OUR, UH, PLACE LIKE IS LIKE A FAMILY ATMOSPHERE BECAUSE WE DON'T SHARE THE SPACE WITH ANOTHER PARTY.
SO EVERYTHING IS TOTALLY PRIVATE JUST FOR YOU, YOUR FAMILY, AND YOUR FRIENDS.
AND ALSO, UH, WE BRING, UH, REALLY GOOD MEMORIES FOR THE KIDS BECAUSE, UH, UH, I THINK, UH, WE DO A REALLY NICE DECORATIONS AND THE PEOPLE, THEY, THEY LOVE IT.
UH, WE HAVE MORE THAN FIVE, UH, HUNDRED REVIEWS IN OUR, UH, DIFFERENT, UH, SOCIAL MEDIAS.
AND THEY, THEY ARE REALLY, UH, GOOD WITH OUR, OUR JOB.
UH, AND SOMEBODY SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT, UH, LIKE ENTERTAINMENT AND FAMILIES.
AND THIS IS SOMETHING LIKE, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY BECAUSE WHEN I GO TO THE DIFFERENT, UH, LIKE, UH, UH, REUNIONS AND FAMILY AND HOUSE FRIENDS, UM, I SAW ONE, ONE OF THE KIDS, THEY ARE ALL THE TIME IN THE CELL PHONES OR WATCHING, UH, YOUTUBE OR SOMETHING WHEN THE KIDS, THEY ARE IN OUR VENUE, THEY ARE PLAYING, OR PARTY STREET IS A PLACE WHERE THE KIDS, THEY CAN BE, UH, KIDS, THEY ARE PLAYING ALL THE TIME.
I DON'T SEE KIDS ON THE CELL PHONE.
THEY ARE PLAYING ALL THE TIME.
UM, AND ALSO, UH, WE START THIS V BUSINESS, UH, SEVEN YEARS AGO.
UM, WE STARTED JUST OMAR AND I, AND WE, IT WAS JUST US.
AND RIGHT NOW, UH, SEVEN YEARS LATER, UH, WE HAVE, UH, 47 PEOPLE WORKING FOR US.
UH, SOMETHING THAT WE LOVE OF THIS KIND OF BUSINESS IS, UH, TO BRING THE OPPORTUNITY, UH, TO HAVE MORE JOBS IN THE COMMUNITIES.
UM, ALL OUR PEOPLE THAT WE, THEY ARE FOR US, UM, THEY STILL WORKING SINCE THEY, WE OPEN.
WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM.
UH, AND ALSO, UH, AND THE KIND OF OUR BUSINESS, WE DON'T HAVE AS SPECIFIC VENDORS.
SO WE DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC CAKE VENDOR.
WE DON'T HAVE A SPEC, A SPECIFIC SHOW VENDOR.
SO EVERYBODY IS MORE THAN WELCOME TO HIRE THEIR OWN, UH, UH, UH, UH, HOW, HOW CAN I SAY VENDOR? YEAH.
UH, SO THAT MEANS LIKE SINCE WE OPENED, WE ALREADY CELEBRATED MORE THAN 2000 PARTIES IN THE AVERAGE OF THE, UH, BUSINESS THEY ARE INVOLVED IN.
OUR BUSINESS IS AROUND LIKE 4, 5, 6 DIFFERENT, UM, VENDORS, WHICH IS, UH, FOOD, UH, PINATAS, CANDIES, UH, FACE PAINTERS.
SO IF, IF WE TRY TO COUNT, UH, AROUND THE AVERAGE OF THE BUSINESS, THEY ARE, UH, WORKING IN ARBAN.
UH, PLUS THE TWO MORE THAN 2000 PARTIES, MORE THAN 10,000, UH, PEOPLE, THEY CAME TO ARBAN.
I REMEMBER A LADY IN 2021, UH, AND SHE WAS IN ARBAN AND SHE SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT? SHE'S MY FRIEND.
AND I TOLD HER, JUST BRING YOUR BUSINESS CARD, LEAVE IT AT THE FRONT.
AND I TOLD, I REMEMBER HER, SHE, IT WAS 2021 AND I SAW HER SEVERAL TIMES IN OUR, IN OUR VENUE, AT LEAST, I PROMISE YOU MORE THAN 50 TIMES, UH, WORKING AND DOING THIS, UM, FACE PAINTING IN OUR VENUE.
UH, AND ONE, ONE MORE THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY.
UH, WE ARE REALLY GOOD NEIGHBORS.
WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH NEXT DOORS WITH THE NEIGHBORS.
WE NEVER, WE NEVER HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THE COMMUNITY, WITH THE HOAS, WITH THE CITY.
UH, SO WE TRY TO BE, OR WE TRY TO KEEP OUR BUSINESS AS SMALL, UH, GOOD POSSIBLE FOR THE COMMUNITY.
UM, SO LIKE I SAID, RIGHT NOW WE ARE 47 PEOPLE WORKING IN URBAN, IN URBAN VENUES.
WE HAVE SEVEN DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.
AND ONE OF OUR GOALS IS HAVE, IS TRY TO HAVE A HUNDRED PEOPLE WORKING FOR OUR COMPANY.
AND, UH, HOPEFULLY, AND I'M FOR SURE, LIKE RICHARD STERN CAN BE PART OF THIS HISTORY OF PARTY STREET.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE SOME, ANY QUESTIONS,
UM, I THINK IT'S A, A NEAT IDEA.
I, UM, OBVIOUSLY COULD SEE THE, THE USE AND NEED OF A BUSINESS LIKE THIS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
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MY SON'S A LITTLE OLD FOR THIS STUFF, BUT, UH, IT LOOKS GREAT.UM, THE ONLY, THE ONLY THING, AND I THINK I KNOW THE ANSWER JUST BECAUSE OF THE SIZE, BUT I WANNA ASK YOU THE ONLY CONCERN I WOULD HAVE OF ANY KIND OF EVENT, VENUE LIKE THIS, 'CAUSE DIRECTLY BEHIND WHERE YOU GUYS ARE LOCATED, THERE IS RESIDENTIAL THAT YOU BACK UP TO.
UM, BUT I'M GUESSING BECAUSE OF THE SIZE, YOU DON'T DO MANY, YOU'RE NOT GONNA DO ANY WEDDINGS OR QUINCEANERAS WHERE THERE'S GONNA BE LIVE MUSIC OR ANY AMPLIFIED MUSIC ABOVE MAYBE A MIC AND SOME FUN MUSIC DURING THE DAY FOR KIDS' BIRTHDAY PARTIES.
DO YOU ALL DO ANY OF THOSE TYPE OF EVENTS? ANY OF YOUR OTHER BUSINESSES? NO, WE DO, UH, LIKE A, LIKE A 60%.
THEY ARE FOR KIDS OTHER, ANOTHER 30 TO 35.
IT'S, UH, BABY SHOWERS, UH, GENDER REVEALS.
SOMETIMES THEY ARE LIKE IN MEETINGS, UH, AND WE USE A SPEAKER LIKE 18, UH, INCHES.
AND IT'S, IF YOU, WE HAVE THE SPEAKER HERE, THE, THE PEOPLE IN THE LOBBY, THEY DON'T, UH, ABLE TO HEAR IT BECAUSE IT'S JUST FOR LIKE THIS, THIS, LIKE THIS SPACE.
SO WE DON'T, WE DON'T DO LIKE, UH, HIGH OR REALLY LOUD, UH, MUSIC.
AND SO THIS MOST WE DO, UH, KIDS LIKE THE BALLOONS, DECORATIONS AND EVERYTHING.
AND IF I, IF I MAY ADD, WE WERE ABLE TO CONTACT A COUPLE OF HOAS, THE ASSOCIATIONS, AND THEY WERE SUPPORTIVE OVER THE PROJECT, REPRESENTED EVERYTHING.
UM, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR SAM.
AM I, DO I NEED TO WAIT FOR THAT OR CAN I ASK? NO, HE, HE CAN ANSWER.
UM, ON THIS SLIDE, THIS, THIS FINAL SLIDE ON AT WHERE IT SAYS CITY COUNCIL ACTION AND IT LIST ONE THROUGH SIX, ARE THESE INCLUDED IN THE APPROVAL OR ARE THESE SPECIAL AMENDMENTS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE FOR, AND WHAT I'M LOOKING AT SPECIFICALLY IS THE 10:00 AM TO 10:00 PM ON SATURDAY AND SUNDAY, THOSE ARE INCLUDED WITH, THOSE ARE INCLUDED ALREADY? THAT'S CORRECT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? I HAVE ONE QUESTION.
UM, YOU TALK ABOUT THE CATERING OR THE OUTSIDE VENDORS, UHHUH, UM, IS ALCOHOL INVOLVED? WHAT TYPES OF FOOD AND THOSE TYPE THINGS, IF YOU JUST CURIOUS AND ARE THERE SPECIAL PERMITS, SAM, THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE IF THEY HAD ALCOHOL AND THINGS LIKE THAT COMING IN? NO, SIR.
THE VENDOR, UH, WOULD HAVE THEIR LICENSE.
THAT WOULD BE ISSUED BY THE, UH, TABC.
SO IT WOULD BE VENDOR AS CA AS A CATER.
SO DO YOU HAVE THOSE TYPE OF EVENTS FOR THE SHOWERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT? NO, NO, NO.
MOST OF THE TIME I SAW PEOPLE LIKE, UH, BRINGING FOOD FROM, UH, I DON'T KNOW.
YEAH, I CAN SAY THE BRANDS, BUT LIKE DINO PIZZA, PIZZA'S HOT, UH, OLIVE GARDEN.
SO, AND THEY BRING THE SODAS, UH, LIKE COKE OR SOFT DRINKS, LIKE IT, LIKE I SAID, WE CELEBRATE PARTIES FOR TWO HOURS, THREE HOURS IS THE AVERAGE.
AND THE PEOPLE, THEY JUST CELEBRATE.
THEY SING HAPPY BIRTHDAY, THEY'RE PLAYING AND THEY JUST LIVE.
HOW MANY PARTIES A DAY WOULD YOU HAVE? UM, FOR ONE LOCATION, WE CAN CELEBRATE UP TO THREE.
BECAUSE WE NEED, UH, TIME TO CHANGE THE DECORATION.
AND, UH, JUST SO YOU KNOW, THE AVERAGE OF OUR PARTIES, THEY ARE AROUND LIKE, UH, 30 PEOPLE, 40 PEOPLE.
LIKE IT IS NOT TWO BIG PARTIES.
IT'S ONLY THE PEOPLE TO ATTEND THE, THE EVENTS.
THIS TIME WE ASK YOU TO TAKE A SEAT.
AND WE'LL OPEN UP FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.
DO WE HAVE ANY UH, CARDS? NO CARDS, MAYOR.
MR. RUSH AND WRITER CLOSE PUBLIC, PUBLIC HEARING.
MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ALL IN FAVOR? CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.
THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, UNANIMOUSLY.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT, I'D BE LOOKING FOR A MOTION.
MAYOR, IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ZONING FILE 24 DASH 12 AS PRINTED WITH THE, ALL THE, IS THAT GOOD, SAM? YES.
ALL IN FAVOR? SHOW OF HANDS, PLEASE.
FILE NUMBER 24 12 PASSES UNANIMOUSLY THAT
[10. CONSENT AGENDA]
BRING THIS TO ITEM NUMBER 10, CONSENT AGENDA.CALL FOR A MOTION AND A SECOND TO VOTE TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.
MR.
GOT A SECOND, MR. CORCORAN? SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR? SHOW OF HANDS, PLEASE.
[11. REPORT ON ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST ]
THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM NUMBER 11, REPORT ON ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST.[03:40:01]
HUTCHEN? WRITER, I WOULD JUST SAY THAT, UH, WE HAD AN EXTREMELY BUSY, BUT FUN AND ENTERTAINING.UM, WE STARTED OUT, UM, WITH JJ PIERCE, CAME TO CANYON CREEK, WENT OVER TO MARLBORO, AND, UH, THEN WE ENDED THE NIGHT WITH AN INCREDIBLE, UM, FIREWORKS PERFORMANCE.
AND, UH, I JUST WANT TO AGAIN, THANK, UM, THE CITY FOR PULLING OFF THE FIREWORKS, THE PARKS AND REC RECREATION.
AND A LOT OF FOLKS HAD BEEN SO BUSY WITH STILL THE CLEANUP AND THE, AND ALL OF THE RESTORATION FROM THE STORM.
UM, BUT THEY TOOK THE TIME TO SET THAT UP AND I THOUGHT THEY PULLED IT OFF WITH ABSOLUTE, UM, PERFECTION AND JUST REALLY HAD A GREAT TIME.
SO I JUST WANNA SAY A BIG THANK YOU TO OUR CITY STAFF FOR ONCE AGAIN, STEPPING UP AND, AND MAKING THE EVENT AN INCREDIBLE EVENT.
AND, UM, TO, TO DAWN, TO YOU AND THE ENTIRE CITY STAFF, CITY MANAGEMENT.
WE'VE NOT MET IN A WHILE, SO I WANT TO, UH, TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE SOMEONE WHO RECENTLY GOT RECOGNIZED THE, UH, LEADERSHIP RICHARDSON ALUMNI ASSOCIATION, UH, ALUMNI OF THE YEAR, UH, DANIEL BETTE.
I WOULD JUST WANNA GIVE HIM A SHOUT OUT AND SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO HIM.
UH, WELL DESERVED HONOR TO, TO WIN THAT AT US.
FULLY STUNNED AND PROBABLY HAD ONE OF MY FAVORITE REACTIONS I'VE SEEN IN A LONG TIME.
SO, UH, CONGRATULATIONS TO HIM.
UH, ON, ON, UH, WELL-DESERVED HONOR, ABSOLUTELY.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY, SEE YOU.
[EXECUTIVE SESSION ]
THE CITY OF COUNCIL WILL NOW CONVENE IN A CLOSED EXECUTIVE SESSION IN COMPLIANCE WITH SECTION 5 5, 1 0.0 8, 7 1, AND TWO OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE TO DISCUSS THE FOLLOWING DELIBERATION REGARDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS, COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, RENTER ROAD, US 75, RENTER ROAD SLASH PRESIDENT BUSH GEORGE, PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH TURNPIKE AND LAKESIDE BOULEVARD AT GALLATIN PARKWAY, EAST LOOKOUT DRIVE, AND NORTH GLENVILLE DRIVE AREAS.THE TIME IS CURRENTLY 9 43 AND WE WILL START BACK UP AT NINE 50.
COUNSEL WILL RECONVENE INTO SESSION.
[RECONVENE INTO REGULAR SESSION ]
10:46 PM AND AT THIS TIME, UH, A MOTION IS NEEDED.I PUT A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE AND EXECUTE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ON BEHALF OF THE CITY WITH PROJECT ASCENT, INCLUDING ANY AMENDMENTS OR INSTRUMENTS RELATED THERETO.
IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL BUSINESS? SECOND, UH, WELL GIVE A SECOND.
PASSES UNANIMOUSLY WITH NO FURTHER BUSINESS.
THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED AT 10 47.