* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:06] GOOD EVENING. CALL THIS MEETING THE RICHARDSON CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER AT 6:00 PM FIRST ON OUR AGENDA WILL BE COUNCIL MEMBER JOE CORCORAN. LEAD US IN THE INVOCATION AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. GOD, PLEASE GRANT US WISDOM AS LEADERS AND PUT YOUR BLESSINGS ON THIS GREAT CITY. PLEASE GO AND AND PRAY FOR THE SPEEDY RECOVERY OF, UH, FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP. AND WE PRAY FOR AN END TO THE POLITICAL EXTREMISM THAT HANGS OVER THIS COUNTRY LIKE AORT OF DAMOCLES. AMEN. AMEN. AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE. FOR ALL, HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. THANK YOU, COUNSEL. THANK YOU COUNCILMAN CORCORAN. BEFORE WE START, UH, I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS AND YOUR PRAYERS. UM, I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE ASSASSINATION ATTEMPT ON FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP THIS PAST WEEKEND. THERE'S ABSOLUTELY, ABSOLUTELY NO PLACE FOR POLITICAL VIOLENCE IN THIS COUNTRY. THE FOUNDATION OF OUR DEMOCRACY IS OUR ABILITY, ABILITY TO FREELY EXPRESS OUR OPINIONS, AND I AM THANKFUL THAT WHEN WE HAVE HAD MARCHES AND PROTESTS HERE IN RICHARDSON, TEXAS, THEY'VE ALL BEEN PEACEFUL. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE SECRET SERVICE AND ALL THE OTHER FIRST RESPONDERS THAT RESPONDED TO THIS EVENT. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ASK EVERYONE TO KEEP THE FAMILY OF COREY COMP , A FIRST RESPONDER HIMSELF AND OTHER SHOOTING VICTIMS WHO REMAIN HOSPITALIZED IN YOUR PRAYERS. WE HAVE A STRONG, DIVERSE COMMUNITY HERE IN RICHARDSON, AND I HOPE THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE WILL CONTINUE TO BE PROUD OF THE CITY THAT WE ALL CALL HOME. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR LISTENING AT THIS TIME, WE'RE GONNA ITEM [3. MINUTES OF THE JULY 8, 2024 MEETING] THREE MINUTES OF THE JULY 8TH, 2024 MEETING. LOOKING FOR A MOTION. MR. HUTCHIN WRITER MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE JULY 8TH MEETING MINUTES. THANK YOU. YOU'VE GOT A SECOND, MR. CHU. SECOND. I SECONDED. ALRIGHT, GOT A MOTION? A SECOND AND A FIRST. ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR HANDS. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I SAID I THINK. OKAY. AT [4. PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS AND VISITORS FORUM] THIS TIME IT'S PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THE AGENDA. I, AGENDA ITEMS AND VISITORS FORUM. MR. MAGNAR? UH, THANK YOU MAYOR. MAYOR AND COUNSEL. WE, UH, ARE IN RECEIPT OF ONE CARD IN ADVANCE OF THE 5:00 PM DEADLINE. IT'S FROM, UH, CARLA SULLIVAN AT 9 26 E EAST BERKELEY DRIVE. UM, AND, UH, IT'S REGARDING HER OPPOSITION TO SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. UM, I WANT TO, UM, NOTE THAT, UH, THE CARD HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO COUNSEL FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION. WE DO HAVE, UH, A NUMBER OF SPEAKERS SIGNED UP, UM, FOR, UH, THE, UM, COMMENTS ON THE AGENDA ITEMS AS WELL AS FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING. SO I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND READ THE INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE SPEAKERS AND THEN MS. NEER WILL CALL 'EM UP DURING THIS PORTION OF THE COUNCIL MEETING. 30 MINUTES IS ALLOCATED FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO PROVIDE COMMENTS TO THE COUNCIL ON AGENDA ITEMS. IF YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK ON A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM, PLEASE WAIT UNTIL THE PUBLIC HEARING IS OPENED. THERE'S TIME LEFT DURING THE INITIAL 30 MINUTES ALLOCATED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING. THE REMAINING TIME WILL BE PROVIDED AS A VISITORS FORUM OPEN TO ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ANY TOPIC IN WHICH THE SUBJECT MATTER IS WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE CITY. IF THE 30, IF THE FULL 30 MINUTES ALLOCATED FOR PUBLIC COMMENT IS REACHED, THEN SPEAKERS WHO HAVE SUBMITTED A PUBLIC COMMENT CARD MAY SPEAK AT THE VISITORS FORM SCHEDULED. AT THE END OF THE MEETING, ALL SPEAKERS SHOULD COMPLETE A PUBLIC COMMENT CARD AND SUBMIT IT TO THE CITY SECRETARY BEFORE THE MEETING BEGINS, SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER THEY RECEIVED. WHEN YOUR NAME IS CALLED, PLEASE STEP TO THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. ALL SPEAKERS WILL BE LIMITED TO A MAXIMUM OF FIVE MINUTES AS INDICATED BY THE TIMERS. WHEN THE TIMER BEEPS, THE SPEAKER SHOULD CONCLUDE THEIR COMMENTS PROMPTLY. SPEAKERS MUST NOT PHYSICALLY APPROACH MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL OR STAFF AND SHOULD REMAIN AT THE PODIUM DURING THEIR COMMENTS. SPEAKERS WITH HANDOUTS MUST PROVIDE THEM TO THE CITY SECRETARY FOR DISTRIBUTION. SPEAKERS. SUBMITTING COMMENTS ON THE SAME TOPIC ARE ENCOURAGED TO REDUCE REPETITIVE REMARKS BY INDICATING THEIR COMMENTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN ADDRESSED. OR BY SELECTING A REPRESENTATIVE SPEAKER. THE TEXAS OPEN MEDIA ACT PROHIBITS THE COUNCIL FROM DISCUSSING OR TAKING ACTION ON ITEMS THAT ARE NOT POSTED ON THE AGENDA. CITY COUNCIL AND STAFF WILL WILL NOT AFFIRM OR OPPOSE ANY SPEAKER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS. THE MAYOR OR CITY MANAGER MAY RESPOND WITH FACTS, A POLICY OR DIRECT CITY STAFF TO RESPOND TO THE SPEAKER. AFTER THE MEETING, THE AUDIENCE IS ASKED TO REFRAIN FROM APPLAUDING OR OTHER EXPRESSIONS OF SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION, A COPY OF THE COUNCIL RULES OF ORDER AND PROCEDURE. AND THESE GUIDELINES MAY BE FOUND ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE. AT THIS TIME, I'D ALSO LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE TO SILENCE THEIR CELL CELL PHONES FOR THE DURATION OF THE MEETING. MS. NEER [00:05:02] MAYOR, WE HAVE, UH, SEVERAL SPEAKERS TONIGHT. THE FIRST ONE WILL BE SHANDOO GAR POTTY. HELLO, MY NAME IS CHAND LU CARTI. I LIVE AT 2,800 WATERVIEW PARKWAY. UM, THAT'S IN THE CITY OF RICHARDSON. AND ON THE UTD CAMPUS, I'M THE PRESIDENT OF COMETS FOR BETTER TRANSIT. THAT'S THE GROUP, UM, STUDENT ORGANIZATION OF UTD STUDENTS WHO ARE COMMITTED TO IMPROVING PUBLIC TRANSIT AND ACTIVE TRANSIT ON AND AROUND THE UTD CAMPUS AND IN OUR WIDER AREA, MANY OF US, UM, USE DART, WHICH IS WHY I'D LIKE TO COMMENT ON ITEM SIX, THE TRANSPORTATION BRIEFING. UM, MANY OF US USE DART AND A LOT OF US DON'T OWN CARS WITHIN THE CLUB. AND UGD STUDENTS IN GENERAL, WERE VERY, VERY FREQUENT USERS OF DART. IN FACT, I BELIEVE THE 8 83 IS THE HIGHEST RIDERSHIP ROUTE IN THE ENTIRE DART SERVICE AREA. WE ARE GOING TO WORK HOME, MEETING UP FRIENDS, THE GROCERY STORE ON DART. IT'S BASICALLY HOW WE ACCESS OUR DAILY LIFE. AND THAT'S WHY I'M VERY GLAD THAT IN THE CONVERSATIONS I'VE HAD WITH CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND CITY COUNCIL BEFORE, YOU'VE BEEN SO SUPPORTIVE OF DART AND I HOPE THAT THIS STRONG COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIP CONTINUES. THANK YOU. LIAM NICHOLS. HELLO, MY NAME IS LIAM NICHOLS. I LIVE AT 2,700 WATERVIEW PARKWAY. UM, I ALSO WANTED TO SPEAK ON AGENDA ITEM SIX. UM, IN TERMS OF LIKE HOW DART HAS BEEN RECEPTIVE TO US AND, UM, COMMUNICATED WITH US RELATED TO FREQUENCY IMPROVEMENTS AND OTHER THINGS IN GENERAL. DART HAS BEEN AN INCREDIBLE PARTNER IN LIKE ALL OF THE CONCERNS WE'VE HAD WITH THEM. UM, BOTH WITH, THEY, WE'VE, UM, WORKED WITH LIKE FREQUENCY CHANGES ON THE 8 83. UM, THEY LIKE DOUBLED THE FREQUENCIES OF THE EASTBOUND ROUTE. UM, A COUPLE, LIKE A YEAR AGO, UM, THEY'VE ALSO BEEN REALLY RECEPTIVE ON A BENCH PROJECT WE WERE WORKING ON TO LOOK AT IMPROVING STOP IMPROVEMENTS IN GENERAL. WE, I JUST WANTED TO EXPRESS THAT LIKE MY, LIKE REALLY HIGH SUPPORT FOR DART IN TERMS OF LIKE, THEY'RE REALLY RECEPTIVE TO CHANGE AND THE BEST WAY TO IMPROVE THE SERVICE IS TO JUST COMMUNICATE WITH THEM. SO YEAH. THANK YOU ADRIAN LEWIS. I AM ADRIAN LEWIS. I LIVE AT 1735 PARK TRAILS BOULEVARD, PRINCETON, TEXAS, AND I'M THE SECRETARY OF THE COUNCIL OF BEAR TRANSIT. DART HAS MADE EXTENSIVE INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENTS HERE IN RICHARDSON. THE SERVICE PROVIDED BY THEIR BUSES AND TRAINS IS A BARGAIN FOR THE AMOUNT OF MONEY AT RICHARDSON PUTS INTO THE PROGRAM. A UT DALLAS STUDENTS CAN TAKE THE BUS TO THEIR PLACES OF WORK, THEIR HOMES, STORES AND RESTAURANTS WHERE THEY WANT TO SPEND THEIR MONEY IN AND AROUND. RICHARDSON, NOT ONLY DOES FUNDING DART ALLOW THESE VEHICLES TO CONTINUE RUNNING, IT ALLOWS THE SERVICE TO BE EXPANDED. SILVER LINE WILL BRING PEOPLE DIRECTLY TO THE AIRPORT DART'S PHASE TWO, BUT NETWORK REDESIGN WILL INCREASE THE FREQUENCY OF BUSES ON THESE ROUTES BY FUNDING DART THE CITY OF RICHARDSON MAKES TRANSIT ORIENT DEVELOPMENT POSSIBLE SO THAT PEOPLE CAN LIVE HERE IN RICHARDSON INSTEAD OF IN AN OUR SUBDIVISION AN HOUR OFF TO THE NORTH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU CONNOR. HOLLA. I ALSO, MY NAME'S CONNOR. I LIVE AT 3 5 5 1 WILS SHOWER WAY AND CITY LINE. UM, DART IS AND DART'S ACCESS AT CITY LINE IS THE WHOLE REASON I EVEN CHOSE TO LIVE HERE. AFTER I GRADUATED SCHOOL. UM, MY ROOMMATE NEEDED TO BE ABLE TO WALK TO HER INTERNSHIP AND TAKE THE BUS TO UTD AND I ENDED UP TAKING THE TRAIN TO GET TO WORK. AND NOW I TAKE A FEW YEARS LATER, NOW I JUST TAKE DART EVERYWHERE. UM, I AM VERY CONCERNED ABOUT ALL THESE CITIES AND THE, AND THEIR RESOLUTIONS. AND I'VE WATCHED THEIR COUNCIL MEETINGS AND THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT HOW, OH, THEY'RE PASSING THESE RESOLUTIONS AND THEY WANT TO GO TO THE STATE LEGISLATURE TO TRY TO GET THE LAWS CHANGED SO THEY COULD MORE DIRECTLY CUT DART'S BUDGET. UM, I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT ALL THIS. I KNOW, UM, THERE'S ALREADY A PROCESS TO WHICH THIS IS THEORETICALLY POSSIBLE, BUT I THINK THEY'RE GONNA TRY TO CHANGE THE LAW. AND I DON'T WANT RICHARDSON TO JOIN THEM IN THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE. I THINK WE SHOULD SUPPORT DART, UM, AND WE SHOULD SUPPORT THEIR LEGISLATIVE AGENDA BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN SO GREAT TO RICHARDSON. WE WERE ASKING THEM ABOUT INCREASING, LIKE THE SERVICE SPAN OF THE SILVER LINE, SO IT RUNS LATER. [00:10:01] AND THEY SAID THEY WOULD, AND THEY UPDATED THEIR PLAN. UM, THEY ADDRESSED OVERCROWDING ON SOME OF THEIR BUSES WE HAD IN RICHARDSON BY ADDING MORE TO THE SCHEDULE. THEY'VE JUST BEEN, THEY'VE ADDED MORE SECURITY TO MAKE IT SAFE. SO THEY'VE JUST DONE EVERYTHING WE'VE BEEN ASKING. AND, UM, YEAH, I THINK WE SHOULD KEEP SUPPORTING THEM 'CAUSE THEY'VE, THEY'VE BEEN DOING A GOOD JOB LATELY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. BENJAMIN GOODINE. HELLO THERE. RICHARDSON, CITY COUNCIL. I WOULD LIKE TO STATE OFF THAT MY NAME IS BENJAMIN GOODING AND I LIVE AT 1250 STATE STREET, ALSO KNOWN AS ANTHEM CITY LINE. I JUST WANNA START, START OFF BY SAYING THAT THANK YOU FOR EVERYONE WHO HAS SPOKEN UP ALREADY ON FACEBOOK OR OTHER SOCIAL MEDIA, BASICALLY SAYING THAT THE DEFUNDING OF DART IS VERY SHORTSIGHTED, WHICH I PERSONALLY AGREE. UM, I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO SAY I BIKED HERE ON THE TRAIL. IT WAS VERY NICE. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT AS WELL. AND, UM, IT WAS A LOVELY DAY. SO I WANNA START OFF BY SAYING THAT AS OF NOW, MANY CITIES IN THIS AREA CANNOT AFFORD TO DEFUND OUR, AND BASICALLY OPT FOR MORE CAR INFRASTRUCTURE BECAUSE AS IS, I MEAN, WE ALREADY HAVE LIMITED SPACE AND YOU WOULD BE TALKING ABOUT IMMINENT DOMAINING, TONS AND TONS OF PROPERTY TO MAKE MORE LANES. BUT IF YOU PROPERLY INVEST IN DAR AND WE CONTINUE TO INVEST IN A GREENER, CLEANER FUTURE, WE COULD GET MORE BUSES AND BUSES WOULD USE THE ALREADY LIKE ABSURD AMOUNT OF LANES THAT WE HAVE. AND INSTEAD OF DEMANDING THAT NEW SPACE BE BUILT, I THINK THAT RIGHT NOW, AS A RESIDENT OF CITYLINE, I HAVE DIRECTLY NOTICED THE BENEFITS OF DART VERSUS CAR INFRASTRUCTURE. AS CAR INFRASTRUCTURE HAS WOKEN ME UP AT 6:00 AM AND DART HASN'T. AND, UM, I USED ART ALMOST ON A DAILY BASIS. MY WORK WAS LIKE, MY WORK IS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM MY APARTMENT. AND I MEAN, ALL OF THIS WAS POSSIBLE DUE TO THE TOD THAT DART BROUGHT, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT HIGHWAYS DON'T REALLY BRING. AND HIGHWAYS ONLY REALLY BRING A DEFICIT THAT YOU WILL FOREVER BE STUCK WITH UNTIL YOU HAVE OTHER ALTERNATIVES. SO I THINK THAT DEFUNDING DART IS VERY SHORTSIGHTED. AND HONESTLY, FOR THE FUTURE LONG TERM OF THE CITY, DART FUNDING IS A PRIORITY AND WE SHOULD ABSOLUTELY KEEP ON INVESTING IN IT. AND I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS ARE VERY PRO DART, WHICH IS WONDERFUL TO SEE. I HOPE THAT YOU CAN STICK UP FOR DART DURING THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION AND THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. NO FURTHER SPEAKERS FOR THE VISITOR SECTION, MAYOR. OKAY. WHY DON'T WE TAKE FIVE MINUTE RECESS, WE'LL RECESS FOR FIVE MINUTES UNTIL WE GET THIS TECHNOLOGY. OKAY. WE'RE GONNA RECONVENE AT 6:15 PM WE DO HAVE ONE MORE GUEST SPEAKER THAT, UH, WE HAD SOME PAPERWORK ISSUES AT THE SAME TIME. WE HAD A TECHNICAL ISSUE. SO MS. EMER JUST REOPEN THAT. CARLOS SULLIVAN. GOOD EVENING, MY HUSBAND AND I, OH, CARLA SULLIVAN, 9 2 6 EAST BERKELEY DRIVE. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE BEEN HOMEOWNERS IN RICHARDSON FOR 10 YEARS. I HAVE DONE MY RESEARCH ON THE CURRENT REGULATIONS THAT WENT INTO EFFECT JANUARY 1ST, 2023 AND RICHARDSON, AND READ THE ARTICLE FROM THE COMMUNITY IMPACT NEWSPAPER VOLUME SIX, ISSUE FIVE IN JANUARY, 2024, SUMMARIZING THE FIRST YEAR OF ENFORCEMENT, WHICH STATED THE COMMUNITY SERVICE DEPARTMENT RECEIVED 28 COMPLAINTS FOR 19 PROPERTIES. I'M POSITIVE THAT MANY COMPLAINTS HAVE GONE UNNOTICED AND UNREPORTED. THE HOUSE AT 9 2 8 EAST BERKELEY DRIVE IS A FIVE BEDROOM, THREE BATHROOM HOME WITH A HEATED POOL THAT ACCOMMODATES UP TO 15 PEOPLE AND HAS 11 BEDS. THE HOUSE IS APPROXIMATELY 12 FEET FROM BOTH MY DAUGHTER'S BEDROOM AND MY BEDROOM. I WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE ISSUES MY FAMILY HAS EXPERIENCED SO FAR. IN DECEMBER, WE HAD TIKTOK RACERS WITH TWO CAR TRAILERS COMING AND GOING ALL HOURS OF THE NIGHT. LOUD EXHAUST IDLE FOR AT LEAST 30 MINUTES AT 12:47 AM MARCH 27TH, 2024 AT 5:45 AM IT'S STILL DARK. I AM HOME ALONE AND RECEIVED SEVERAL KNOCKS ON MY DOOR. IT WAS A FOOD DELIVERY DRIVER WHO MISTOOK OUR HOUSE FOR THE AIRBNB. APRIL 25TH AT 6:30 AM IT'S STILL DARK. TWO RENTERS KNOCK ON MY DOOR ASKING IF THEY COULD PICK FLOWERS FROM MY FRONT YARD [00:15:01] IN MAY TWO. KEG PARTIES WHILE I AM ATTEMPTING TO WORK FROM HOME, RENTERS HANGING OUT IN FRONT OF THE YARD BEFORE GOING OUT, SCREAMING AND TALKING LOUDLY OUTSIDE, WAKING UP MY DAUGHTER RUNNERS WALK TO MY NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE ACROSS THE STREET TO USE THE KIDS' SWING. THESE ARE ADULTS AND PEEK INTO MY NEIGHBOR'S VEHICLE. LOUD PARTY AND BACKYARD, LOTS OF YELLING. POLICE NOTIFIED TWICE IN JUNE. ON JUNE 16TH, MY FAMILY ATTEMPTED TO SPEND TIME TOGETHER IN THE FRONT YARD AND WITNESSED A SHIRTLESS MAN SMOKING A JOINT IN THEIR FRONT YARD. WE NOTIFIED THE HOMEOWNER AND HE REACHED OUT TO THE RENTERS AND REPORTED BACK TO US THAT THE RENTERS DENIED ILLEGAL DRUG USE. OF COURSE, NO ONE WOULD REALLY ADMIT TO USING AN ILLEGAL DRUG AND AN ONSITE INSPECTION FROM THE HOME. HOME FROM THE HOMEOWNER WOULD'VE EASILY CONFIRMED DRUG USE. BASED ON THE SMELL ALONE, AROUND 7:45 PM MY FAMILY ATTEMPTED TO SPEND TIME TOGETHER IN THE BACKYARD, BUT DUE TO THE SMELL OF WEED WAFTING INTO MY BACKYARD, YELLING IF A EXTREME PROFANITY SUCH AS GET THAT MOTHER EFFER REPEATEDLY. WE MOVED BACK INSIDE 9:05 PM LOUD SCREAMING, AND THE SMELL OF WEED COMING TO MY BACKYARD. POLICE NOTIFIED AND THE PARTY SEEMED TO CLEAR. JUNE 18TH, THE SAME RENTERS PARKED IN THE GRASS BETWEEN HIS HOUSE AND THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR. CONTACTED POLICE AT 6:15 AM AND OFFICER THOMPSON ISSUED A WARNING RENTER MOVED VEHICLE AT 10:50 AM BY DRIVING ACROSS THE AIRBNB'S YARD AND THROUGH MY FRONT LAWN. THIS, UM, THIS WAS MINUTES BEFORE MY HUSBAND PLANNED TO GO OUTSIDE TO MOW OUR LAWN. CONTACTED POLICE HOMEOWNER, QUICKLY ADMITTED THAT HIS CAMERAS DON'T WORK IN JULY. JUST A FEW DAYS AGO, LOUD MUSIC PLAYING. UH, WE PURCHASED LARGE BOX FANS TO DROWN OUT THE NOISE IN OUR BEDROOMS. UM, BUT WE COULD STILL HEAR THE MUSIC PLAYING, ESPECIALLY THE BASE POLICE WERE NOTIFIED. MY LAST CONVERSATION WITH THE HOMEOWNER WAS IN JUNE. I ASKED HIM IF HE HAD EVER LIVED NEXT TO AN AIRBNB AND HE SAID NO. I THEN ASKED HIM IF HE WOULD EVER LIVE NEXT TO AN AIRBNB AND HE SHAMEFULLY LOOKED AT THE GROUND AND COULD NOT ANSWER BECAUSE OF COURSE HE KNOWS THE ANSWER IS NO. MY HUSBAND AND I ARE INVESTED IN THIS COMMUNITY. WE ARE MEMBERS OF A LOCAL CHURCH DOWN THE STREET AND HOST MONTHLY DINNERS WITH OTHER RICHARD FAMILIES FROM CHURCH. WE FEAR THESE FAMILIES WILL BE EXPOSED TO SEEING, SMELLING OR HEARING SOMETHING INAPPROPRIATE. WHILE THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL RESPONSIBLE RENTERS, WE ARE ALWAYS IN A CONSTANT STATE OF THE UNKNOWN WITH A VARIETY OF RENTERS. WE'VE CALLED THE POLICE MORE THIS YEAR, SEVEN TIMES TO BE EXACT THAN WE HAVE IN THE 10 YEARS WE'VE LIVED HERE. WE ARE NOT COMPLAINERS AND WE'VE HAD A LITTLE NEED TO REACH OUT TO THE RICHARDSON POLICE IN THE PAST DECADE. WE UNDERSTAND THAT ISSUES MAY OCCUR EVEN WITH PERMANENT NEIGHBORS WITH SHORT TERM RENTALS. WE ARE NOT GIVEN THE CHANCE TO BUILD A RELATIONSHIP AND RESOLVE PROBLEMS INTERNALLY TO THE PEOPLE STAYING HERE FOR FOUR DAYS. THIS IS A VACATION HOME. NOT KNOWING OUR NEIGHBORS HAS MADE US AND NEIGHBORS AROUND US FEEL UNEASY. COMING HOME FROM A LOVELY EVENING FAMILY WALK AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO SEEING A GROUP OF YOUNG GUYS PILING OUT OF A CAR, YELLING, LET'S GET SOME EFFING BEER, IS AN UNSETTLING INDICATION OF HOW THE NIGHT MAY GO. THIS IS NOT HOW FAMILIES IN A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD SHOULD HAVE TO LIVE. WHAT HAS BEEN A PEACEFUL STREET FOR THE PAST 10 YEARS. AND A HAVEN OF REST FOR MY FAMILY HAS NOW BECOME A PLACE OF ANXIETY LIVING NEXT TO THIS HOUSE. THE LACK OF SLEEP HAS A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON OUR WORK, SCHOOL, AND OVERALL QUALITY OF HEALTH. SHORT TERM HOMEOWNERS ARE SNATCHING UP THESE HOUSES FROM POTENTIAL FAMILIES WHO WOULD OTHERWISE BE INVESTED IN THE COMMUNITY. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU ALSO TO THE POLICE, UM, WHO HAVE ALWAYS, UH, RESPONDED QUICKLY AND I APPRECIATE THEIR ONGOING EFFORTS, UM, IN DEALING WITH THIS ISSUE, THIS ISSUE. AND JUST THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR YOUR TIME IN ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TONIGHT. THANK YOU. I'M STILL ALRIGHT. WE'LL TAKE ANOTHER RESET. OKAY. WELCOME BACK. IT IS 6 28. WE WILL RECONVENE AT THIS TIME. WE'LL [5. REVIEW AND DISCUSS NATIONAL PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH] GO TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE, REVIEW AND DISCUSS NATIONAL PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH. MR. MAGNER. UH, THANK YOU MAYOR COUNCIL. UH, THIS IS, UH, THE CULMINATION OF, UH, ABOUT EIGHT VERY, VERY BUSY WEEKS FOR THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT. SO, DIRECTOR YVONNE FGO IS GONNA INTRODUCE A FEW MEMBERS OF OUR TEAM AND TELL YOU THE ALL ABOUT THE PURPOSE OF AND HOW WE'RE CELEBRATING, UH, NATIONAL PARKS AND RICK MONTH. YVONNE, SORRY ABOUT THAT. UM, THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE. I'VE GOT SOME OF OUR, OUR SUPERINTENDENTS WITH US TODAY. UM, AND I'M SURE YOU'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THESE THREE GENTLEMEN AS WELL AS OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTORS. SO, PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH ACTUALLY COVERS OUR CITY COUNCIL'S STRATEGIC GOAL OF HAVING A WELL-TRAINED, [00:20:01] ENGAGED, AND INNOVATIVE EMPLOYEE BASE, UH, TO DELIVER EXCEPTIONAL CUSTOMER SERVICE EXPERIENCE WHILE WORKING IN A SAFE AND INCLUSIVE AND EQUITABLE ENVIRONMENT. SO TONIGHT WHAT I'M GONNA DO IS JUST GIVE YOU A VERY BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE DIVISIONS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR DEPARTMENT. TALK ABOUT NATIONAL PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH, AND THEN SHARE WITH YOU SOME CELEBRATIONS THAT WE'RE DOING THROUGHOUT THE MONTH OF JULY. SO OUR TEAM CONSISTS OF AN ADMINISTRATIVE TEAM, OUR AQUATICS DIVISION, ATHLETICS, COMMUNITY EVENTS, UH, OUR PARK MAINTENANCE TEAM, WHICH YOU'RE GONNA HEAR QUITE A BIT ABOUT FROM SEAN, OUR PARK PLANNING TEAM, AS WELL AS OUR RECREATION AND OLDER ADULTS TEAM. SO PARKS AND OUR NATIONAL PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS EVERY JULY. IT'S A VERY EXCITING TIME FOR US TO HIGHLIGHT OUR PROFESSION AND EVERYTHING THAT PARKS AND RECREATION HAS TO OFFER AND WHAT IT CAN BRING TO OUR COMMUNITY. AND OUR PA, WHICH IS OUR PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATION, TAKES THE LEAD OF THIS EVENT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. AND JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION ON WHAT PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH HIGHLIGHTS AND HOW THIS DEPARTMENT ACTUALLY CONTRIBUTES TO THE COMMUNITY, I WANTED TO EXPAND ON THESE ITEMS A BIT. UH, PARKS AND RECREATION HELPS TO CREATE A STRONG AND VIBRANT RESILIENT COMMUNITY BY PROTECTING OPEN SPACES AND NATURAL RESOURCES BY BOOSTING ECONOMY THROUGH JOBS AND SUPPLIES. AND THAT'S THROUGH INDIRECTLY, UH, FROM CONTRACTORS AND VENDORS, PROVIDING CARE OF FACILITIES AND EVENTS AS WELL AS ALL THE, THE POSITIONS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR DEPARTMENT, PROVIDING ACTIVITIES FOR PEOPLE TO ENJOY, ENHANCING THE QUALITY OF LIFE. AND THEN ADDITIONALLY, AND I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT PARTS, IS SUPPORTING A HEALTHY BODY AND MIND THROUGH NATURE AND ACTIVITIES. IT'S SO IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO GET OUT AND BE ABLE TO USE PARKS AND RECREATION AND THE GREEN SPACE, BUT LIVING CLOSE TO A PARKS AND RECREATION FACILITY IS CONSISTENTLY RELATED TO A HIGHER PHYSICAL ACTIVITY LEVEL. AND THEN CONNECTION WITH NATURE RELIEVE STRESS AND STRENGTHENS INTERPERSONAL RELATIONS AND OVERALL HEALTH FOR, FOR OUR COMMUNITY. SO WITH THAT FOR PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH, WE, AND, AND YOU ALL WERE A PART OF IT, OUR FAMILY FOURTH EVENT WAS OUR KICKOFF TO THIS, UH, THIS MONTH WE ALSO HELD A DIVE IN MOVIE, UM, OR WE ARE HOLDING A DIVE IN MOVIE THIS FRIDAY, FINDING DORY JULY 19TH AT THE HEIGHTS AQUATIC CENTER. AND THEN WE'VE GOT CUSTOMER APPRECIATION EVENTS EVERY FRIDAY IN THE MONTH OF JULY AT VARIOUS LOCATIONS WITH FUN ACTIVITIES ASSOCIATED WITH EACH OF THOSE. AND THEN FOR STAFF, WE HAD A SPONSORED, UH, LUNCH THROUGH TEXAS CREDIT UNION OR CREDIT UNION OF TEXAS. AND THEN WE ARE DOING SITE VISITS. SO THE TWO ASSISTANT DIRECTORS AND MYSELF WILL BE GOING OUT TO EACH SITE TO THANK OUR STAFF AND SHOW OUR APPRECIATION FOR EVERYTHING THAT THEY DO THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. SO THAT WAS JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW OF PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH, REALLY AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO CELEBRATE OUR PROFESSION AND WHAT WE DO FOR THE COMMUNITY. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? AWESOME. COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS? EVERYBODY GIVES YOU A THUMBS UP. GREAT JOB. THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE YOU. THANK EVERYONE FOR COMING AND MAKING A SPECIAL NIGHT FOR US. WE APPRECIATE IT. THIS [6. REVIEW AND DISCUSS STATUS OF REGIONAL TRANSIT STUDIES ] TIME WE'RE GONNA GO TO ITEM NUMBER SIX, REVIEW AND DISCUSS STATUS OF THE REGIONAL TRANSIT STUDIES. UH, THANK YOU MAYOR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL. UH, I WANT TO, UH, THANK THE SPEAKERS EARLIER WHO, UH, COMMENTED ON, UH, DART AND THE VALUE OF DART. I ALSO WANNA WELCOME, UH, THE, UH, DART BOARD CHAIR, OUR OWN, UH, APPOINTEE TO THE BOARD, UH, GARY SLAGEL. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. GARY. UH, MARK NELSON, OUR DIRECTOR OF TRANSPORTATION MOBILITY, IS GONNA PROVIDE A, A QUICK UPDATE ON THREE IMPORTANT STUDIES, UM, THAT, UH, HAVE, UH, TAKEN PLACE AND ARE TAKING PLACE. UH, TWO REQUESTED BY THE MEMBER CITIES, AND THEN ONE OF COURSE, UH, AS, UH, DART, CEO NADINE, UH, LEE PRESENTED, UH, INTERNALLY, UM, GENERATED BY DART, UM, THEIR, UH, THEIR STRATEGIC PLAN. UM, THE, THE PUNCHLINE OF THIS BRIEFING, UM, IS, UM, THAT WE BELIEVE IT WOULD BE PREMATURE, UM, TO TAKE ANY KIND OF ACTION OR REACH ANY KIND OF CONCLUSION WITH RESPECT TO DART AND FUNDING UNTIL THESE STUDIES HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE PLACE. AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE AND UNDERSTAND THE FINDINGS. UH, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TIME AND A LOT OF EFFORT, UH, PUT TOWARDS THESE STUDIES. AND QUITE FRANKLY, THE MEMBER CITIES, AS I MENTIONED, REQUESTED TWO OF THE THREE. AND SO, UH, MARK'S GONNA PRESENT A LITTLE BIT OF AN OVERVIEW OF EACH OF THESE STUDIES. AND THEN, UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, WE'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU AND, AND, UH, BOARD CHAIR SLAGEL. OF COURSE, WE'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU AS WELL. MARK, THANKS FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU, MR. MAGNER, MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING TO DISCUSS THESE PARTICULAR ITEMS. UM, AS WE GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION, YOU'LL NOTE THAT THEY, UH, DIAL INTO THE COUNCIL TACTIC OF, UH, LEVERAGING OUR, UH, OUR POSITION AS, UH, HERE IN NORTH TEXAS AS LEADERS WITH, UM, IMPACTING, UH, [00:25:01] POLICIES THAT AFFECT, UH, BOTH WELL COUNTY, STATE, AND, UH, FEDERAL ISSUES. AS WELL AS LEANING INTO, UH, THE COUNCIL T OF COORDINATING WITH DART, UH, TO ADVANCE THEIR STRATEGIC PLAN, AS WELL AS PART PARTICIPATING WITH, UH, THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS WITH THEIR, UH, REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION STUDY. SO IN 2023, REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION COUNCIL FUNDED TRANS, UH, 2.0 TO CONDUCT A COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW OF SEVERAL TASKS TO CREATE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE THREE TRANSIT AGENCIES, UH, TO PLAY A, A STRONGER ROLE WITHIN THE NORTH TEXAS REGION. UH, AT THE MOST RECENT RTC MEETING, THERE WAS A, UH, REPORT THAT WAS, UH, BROUGHT BEFORE THE, BEFORE THE COUNCIL THAT INDICATED, UM, NEARLY 200,000 PEOPLE MOVED INTO OUR REGION, UM, IN, IN 2023, WHICH REALLY DIALS INTO THAT NEXT BULLET POINT IN TERMS OF THE PROJECTION OF 11 MILLION PEOPLE, UH, IN OUR REGION BY 2045. SO, UNDERSTANDING THAT, UM, AS PART OF THIS STUDY, THE MAYORS OF, OF THE 12 CITIES THAT, UH, SIGNED ONTO, UH, ONTO THIS, UH, LETTER OF, UH, SUPPORT FOR THE TRANSIT 2.0 STUDY, UH, THEY WANTED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THESE, UH, MAJOR, UH, THESE MA THESE PARTICULAR TASKS, UH, THAT INVOLVED THE, THE NEEDS, UH, ANALYSIS FOR SERVICE TYPES, CERTAINLY TAKING A LOOK AT THE COST OF AGENCIES, UH, AND POTENTIAL EFFICIENCIES, NOT ONLY, UH, WITHIN THEIR PARTICULAR AGENCY, BUT ACROSS AGENCIES IN TERMS OF THE, UH, SERVICES THEY PROVIDE. LOOKING AT MEMBERSHIP CATEGORIES AND OPTIONS, UH, FOR CURRENT MEMBERS AS WELL AS, UH, AS POTENTIAL MEMBERS TO THOSE TRANSIT AGENCIES. AND THEN LOOKING AT REVENUE PHILOSOPHIES AND OPPORTUNITIES, UH, TO GENERATE ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO SUPPORT THEIR, THEIR EFFORTS. AND THEN ALSO LOOKING AT, UH, BARRIERS TO THE SYSTEMS, HOW THEY MAY BE, MAY BE ABLE TO REDUCE THOSE OR OTHERWISE, UH, UM, COMPLETELY ABATE THOSE. SO WITH, UH, TRANSIT 2.0, UH, THE, THE STUDY IS REALLY LOOKING AT, UM, VARIOUS INVESTMENTS, UM, THAT WOULD, UH, ACCOMMODATE THIS POPULATION GROWTH AS, UH, PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, UH, IN A SUSTAINABLE, UH, GROWTH PATTERN FOR WI WITHIN OUR, UH, REGION, WHILE ALSO LOOKING AT, UH, SERVING THOSE, UH, CITIES THAT LACK THE SALES TAX CAPACITY, UH, TO PARTICIPATE IN ONE OF THE THREE TRANSIT AGENCIES, UH, HERE IN THE NORTH TEXAS AREA. I WON'T GO THROUGH EACH OF THESE, UH, EXPECTED OUTCOMES. I DO. UH, I DO WISH, UH, TO KIND OF WEIGH IN ON THE FIRST, THE FIRST ONE, WHICH IS THE DEVELOPMENT OF A TRANSIT LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM. UH, SO WHAT RTC UH, ANTICIPATES, RTC STAFF HAS INDICATED THAT THEY WILL BE BRINGING FORWARD, UH, A TRANSIT, UH, UH, LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM, UH, ASSOCIATED WITH, UH, THE TRANSIT, UH, SERVICES TO THE RTC FOR CONSIDERATION IN THE OCTOBER TO NOVEMBER TIMEFRAME. AND SO, UH, WITH THAT, THEN THEY'LL ALSO BE LOOKING AT TRYING TO COMPLETE THIS, UH, OVERALL STUDY AND THE SPRING 2025 TIMEFRAME. AGAIN, UH, THE ISSUE OR THE, UH, THE IDEA WITH THE, THE FALL DATE WITH THE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA IS TO BE OUT IN FRONT WITH RESPECT TO THE, UH, 2025 TEXAS LEGISLATIVE SESSION. MOVING ON TO DART, UH, AS MR. MAGNER MENTIONED, UH, NADINE LEE WAS HERE WITH US, UH, JUST JUST A MONTH AGO TO OUTLINE THEIR STRATEGIC PLAN. IT HAS, UH, GONE BEFORE THEIR BOARD IN PAST LAST MONTH. UM, BUT THIS STRATEGIC PLAN IS A 10 YEAR PLAN TO IMPROVE THE AGENCY AND THE SERVICES THEY PROVIDE, UH, WITH A FOCUS ON THE FIRST FIVE YEARS. THE FIRST TWO GOALS, UH, HERE OF THIS, OF THE SIX STRATEGIC GOALS THAT SHE OUTLINED, THE FIRST TWO REALLY FOCUS KIND OF AN INWARD LOOK AT THE AGENCY. HOW CAN THEY, UM, HOW CAN THEY DO THINGS BETTER WITHIN THEIR ORGANIZATION, UH, WITH THE STAFF THEMSELVES TO BE MORE, UH, TO BE MORE RE UH, RELIABLE AND AND NIMBLE WITH THE SERVICES THAT ARE REQUESTED, UH, AND DESIRED BY, UH, MEMBER CITIES IN THE REGION AS A WHOLE. UH, STRATEGIC ITEMS THREE AND FOUR ARE REALLY OUTWARD FOCUSED. IN OTHER WORDS, CUSTOMER SERVICE. UM, SHE MENTIONED, UH, NADINE MENTIONED IN HER PRESENTATION SOME OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, WE MAY HAVE EXPERIENCED ALREADY IF YOU'RE OUT THERE ON THE SYSTEM. AND THAT IS, UH, ENHANCEMENT OR IMPROVEMENT WITH, UH, SAFETY, SECURITY, UH, CLEANLINESS AND OVERALL SYSTEM RELIABILITY. AND THEN THE, THE LAST TWO, UH, FANTASTIC SPACES AND STRATEGIC RELATIONSHIP ARE REALLY COMMUNITY LITTLE FOCUS MORE ON OVERALL COMMUNITY GOALS. REALLY WHAT, UH, WHAT NADINE EXPRESSED WITH THOSE, UH, PARTICULAR GOALS WAS A, UH, AN OPPORTUNITY TO LEVERAGE THE DART, UH, ASSET, THE ASSETS THAT THEY HAVE TO ADVANCE, UH, GOALS AND OBJECTIVES, UH, THAT WE AS MEMBER CITIES, [00:30:01] UH, ACROSS THE, THE SERVICE AREA MAY HAVE. AND ONE OF THE, UH, ONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT SHE AR ARTICULATED AS AN EXAMPLE WAS THE LINEAR PARK ALONG, UH, THE, UH, REDLINE CORRIDOR JUST NORTH OF MAIN STREET AND BELTLINE, UH, A GREAT CREATIVE WAY TO, UH, FURTHER ENHANCE THE INVESTMENT THAT OUR COMMUNITY AND AND BUSINESSES HERE IN RICHARDSON HAVE MADE IN THE MAIN STREET AREA WITH THE PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT AND THE PUBLIC, UH, INVESTMENT THAT WE'VE HAD. SO, DART IS ALSO GOING THROUGH A, A STUDY, UH, ASSOCIATED WITH THE COST ALLOCATION. UH, ESSENTIALLY DART HAS BROUGHT ON, UM, OR, OR DAUGHTERS, UH, HAS BROUGHT ON, UH, ERNST AND YOUNG TO FACILITATE THAT PARTICULAR STUDY, REALLY TO TAKE A LOOK AT, UM, ABOUT, TAKE A LOOK AT, UH, CAPITAL OPERATING AND DEBT EXPENSES, HOW THOSE ARE STRUCTURED ACROSS, OR HOW THOSE ARE ALLOCATED ACROSS, UH, THE VARIOUS MEMBER CITIES. AND, AND THEN SEE HOW, UM, WITH THE, AFTER THAT REVIEW PROCESS, SEE HOW THAT PROCESS MAY BE FACILITATED WITH FUTURE, UH, UH, FUTURE BUDGETS AND, AND, UH, OUT LOOKING YEARS. SO RIGHT NOW, ERNST AND YOUNG IS IN THE PROCESS OF THE, OF DISCOVERY, UH, LOOKING AT BENCHMARKING, AS WELL AS, UH, TAKING A LOOK AT THE VARIOUS METRICS FOR DIS UH, DISAGGREGATING THOSE, UH, OPERATING EXPENSES ACROSS, UH, THE MEMBER CITIES. AND THEN, UH, HAVE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH THE, UH, LEADERSHIP WITH, UH, MEMBER CITIES, UH, TO TAKE INPUT ON THAT. SO DART IS EXPECTED TO, UM, TO THE DART BOARD, IS EXPECTED TO TAKE THIS ISSUE UP OR HAVE A, A PRELIMINARY REPORT, UH, LATER THIS SUMMER, I THINK IN THE AUGUST TIMEFRAME. UH, SO WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO MORE INFORMATION AS THAT, UH, BECOMES EVIDENT. SO, WHERE DO WE STAND NOW? UH, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CONVERSATION, UM, WITHIN THE MEDIA, UH, AS WELL AS IN THE TRANSPORTATION CIRCLES ABOUT ACTIONS CERTAIN, UH, CERTAIN CITIES HAVE TAKEN, AND ACTIONS THAT ARE BEING CONTEMPLATED BY OTHER COMMUNITIES WITH RESPECT TO, UH, HOW THEY MAY, UH, REDUCE THEIR CONTRIBUTION TO DAR AND, AND MAYBE APPLY THOSE RESOURCES TO OTHER, UM, OTHER INITIATIVES THAT THEY HAVE WITHIN THEIR COMMUNITY. UH, AT THIS POINT IN TIME, RICHARDSON, UH, REALLY INTENDS TO LET THE, UH, THE STUDY, UH, PLAY OUT, UH, HEAR WHAT THOSE, UH, WHAT THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS MIGHT BE. WE'VE BEEN A STRONG PARTNER AS, UH, WITNESS, UH, BY THE COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE EARLIER TODAY AND THE, AND THE SUPPORT THAT, UH, WAS, UH, PROVIDED NADINE WHEN SHE, UM, WHEN SHE ADDRESSED THE COUNCIL BACK IN JUNE. SO, WITH THAT, I'LL STAND TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU, MARK. COUNSEL, ANY QUESTIONS MR. CORCORAN? NO, THANK YOU, MAYOR. I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I CERTAINLY HAVE SOME COMMENTS. OKAY. I MEAN, I THINK, I THINK, UH, THE RESOLUTIONS GOING ON IN SOME OF THOSE OTHER DARK MEMBER CITIES, UM, JUST BASED ON EVERYTHING THAT I'VE, I'VE SEEN TODAY, I'VE SEEN IN THE PAST, THEY SEEM PRETTY DIVORCED FROM REALITY AS FAR AS THE WORK THAT DART IS TAKING. AND AS FAR AS OUR REGIONAL TRANSIT AND REGIONAL MOBILITY GOALS, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, DART MAKES EFFORTS TO IMPROVE THEIR SECURITY AND CLEANLINESS. DART MAKES EFFORTS TO EXPAND SERVICE, DART RETURNS, EXCESS SALES TAX, AND SORT OF A ONE-OFF GOOD YEAR. AND EVERYONE'S RESPONSE IS TO CUT DART'S FUNDING AND CUT SERVICE BACK. UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THIS, THIS COLLECTIVE DECISION THAT DART IS UNRESPONSIVE IS IRRESPONSIBLE, THE LOGICAL, IT'S SHORTSIGHTED. AND, UM, I, I JUST FEEL LIKE WE'RE ONLY GONNA GET THE DART SYSTEM THAT WE'RE WILLING TO FUND. AND IF WE CUT OUR CONTRIBUTION, OR IF, IF EVERYONE CUTS OUR COLLECTIVE CONTRIBUTION BY 25%, IT WOULD BE A MAJOR STEP BACKWARDS. SO, WITH ALL TO SAY A STRONG SUPPORTER OF DART HERE, FOR SURE. THANK YOU, MS. JUSTICE. UH, THANK YOU, MAYOR. I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN CORCORAN. UM, I THINK THE WORD THAT MR. MAGNER USED WAS PREMATURE. I THINK THAT'S ABSOLUTELY ACCURATE. I MEAN, THERE, CITIES HAVE GONE TO THE LEGISLATURE TWICE AND HAVE BEEN UNABLE TO GET LEGISLATION. UM, AND SO THIS SEEMS LIKE A REACTION TO THAT, UH, TO TRY AND FORCE THE LEGISLATURE'S HAND IN THE NEXT SEC, UH, IN THE NEXT SESSION. AND I THINK THAT, UM, IT WAS A LITTLE BIT SHORTSIGHTED NOT TO WAIT FOR THE STUDY THAT THAT ESSENCE IS IN RESPONSE TO, UH, WHAT WAS CALLED FOR. UM, I ALSO THINK THAT IT'S, UM, LACKS VISION, UH, QUITE FRANKLY, AZURE SLIDE SHOWED WE'RE GROWING TO 11 MILLION PEOPLE IN THE NEXT 20 YEARS. UM, THE IDEA THAT WE'RE GONNA NEED LESS TRANSIT, UM, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC TRANSIT IS AGAIN, A A LITTLE BIT SHORTSIGHTED. IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT LIVING IN REALITY, I THINK IS, IS THE WORDS THAT COUNCILMAN CORCORAN USED. I MEAN, WE HAVE FOLKS THAT ARE GONNA NEED TO BE ABLE TO GET ALL AROUND THE METROPLEX. AND YOU HAVE THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS DOING TRANSIT 2.0 AGAIN IN RESPONSE TO THE FACT THAT WE ARE GONNA GROW BY 3 MILLION TO 4 MILLION PEOPLE IN THE NEXT 20 YEARS. UM, I'M, I'M ALSO A VERY STRONG SUPPORTER OF DART. UM, I, I THINK, AGAIN, [00:35:01] A A LITTLE BIT RIDICULOUS TO ME THAT WE WOULD BE TRYING TO CUT FUNDING, KNOWING HOW MUCH OUR REGION'S GONNA GROW, HOW MUCH TRANSIT WE'RE GONNA NEED IN RESPONSE TO THAT. NOW, CREDIT, IF, IF THEY WANNA KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, HOW THE MONEY IS BEING SPENT, GREAT, LET'S WAIT UNTIL AUGUST AND FIND OUT WHEN WE GET OUR VALUE STUDY. UM, BUT I, I AM, UH, VERY MUCH DISAGREE WITH, WITH WHAT OTHER MEMBER CITIES ARE DOING. UH, WE NEED TO WAIT AND SEE WHAT THE VALUE STUDY SAYS, AND WE NEED TO BE REALISTIC ABOUT THE, THE GROWTH THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IN THIS REGION, AND HOW MUCH WE'RE GONNA NEED THE TRANSIT. UM, AND AS COUNCILMAN CORCORAN SAID, WE HAVE A GREAT PARTNER IN DART. THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN RESPONSIVE, UM, TO, TO WHAT OUR NEEDS ARE. YOU HEARD FROM THE SPEAKERS TONIGHT WHO ACTUALLY USE DART EVERY SINGLE DAY AND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS FOR THEIR LIVES, QUITE FRANKLY, TO BE ABLE TO GET THEIR GROCERIES, TO BE ABLE TO GO TO WORK, TO BE ABLE TO GO TO SCHOOL. UM, SO I'VE SAID MY PIECE, I WHOLLY DISAGREE WITH WHAT'S HAPPENING IN OTHER MEMBER CITIES AND, UM, WOULD NOT SUPPORT A RESOLUTION WHERE IT TO BECOME BEFORE THE COUNCIL. MR. HUTCHER. RETTER, THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, I ECHO MOST DEFINITELY WHAT, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER CORCORAN AND COUNCILWOMAN, UM, JUSTICE JUST SAID. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, ONE OTHER POINT THAT I WANT TO, I WANNA BRING OUT IS WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT TRYING TO MAKE OUR OUR CITY VERY LIVABLE, VERY WORKABLE, UM, IN A COST EFFECTIVE MANNER. IF YOU'VE GONE OUT RECENTLY TO DFW, IT COSTS $20 A DAY TO PARK OUT AT DFW. IF YOU TAKE AN UBER, YOU'RE PROBABLY INTO IT AROUND 50 TO $60. I WAS JUST ASKING, UM, CHAIRMAN, UM, SLAGEL. SO FOR APPROXIMATELY FIVE TO $6, YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GO FROM BASICALLY, UH, CERTAINLY FROM RICHARDSON, PROBABLY EVEN IN PLANO TO DFW AND GET ON A PLANE. AND YOU'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO DO THAT MULTIPLE TIMES A DAY AS THE THE TRACK RUNS. I CAN'T THINK OF A MORE AFFORDABLE ALTERNATIVE THAT WE COULD OFFER OUR RESIDENTS THAN TO HAVE THAT. I KNOW I'M ABSOLUTELY ECSTATIC WHEN I HAVE TO TRAVEL FOR BUSINESS OR EVEN PERSONAL THAT ONCE WHEN THE SILVER LINE COMES IN, I WILL NEVER DRIVE OUT TO DFW AGAIN. I MEAN, I WILL LITERALLY GET ON DART, GO OUT AND EITHER GET ON A PLANE OR PICK UP FRIENDS, RELATIVES, BUSINESS ASSOCIATES, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE. AND I THINK IT'S INCREDIBLY SHORTSIGHTED THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, WE HAVE, NOT WE, BUT OTHER CITIES HAVE NOT ALLOWED DART TO ALLOW SILVER LINE TO GET UP AND OPERATIONAL AND SEE THE HUGE BENEFITS. PLANO IS GONNA BENEFIT, WE'RE GONNA BENEFIT. UTD AS HAS ALREADY BEEN MENTIONED, IS GOING TO BENEFIT. UM, AND THEN THE OTHER CITIES THAT ARE DALLAS THAT ARE, THAT ARE ON THERE WILL, WILL MASSIVELY BENEFIT. AND I THINK AS HAS ALREADY BEEN SAID, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S VERY SHORTSIGHTED. I THINK WE NEED TO ALLOW ALL THESE STUDIES. AND, AND I THINK THERE'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT OF SHORTSIGHTED IN THIS IS, YOU KNOW, HAVING BEEN NOW ON COUNCIL ON MY SIXTH YEAR, EVERY TIME WE'VE SAT DOWN WITH DART AND MADE SUGGESTIONS OR SAID, HERE ARE OUR CONCERNS, THEY'VE ALWAYS GONE AND THOUGHTFULLY WORKED THROUGH THEM, PUT PUT SOLUTIONS INTO PLACE, UM, AND, AND BROUGHT BACK TO US AND SAID, HERE ARE THE SOLUTIONS THAT WE'VE PUT INTO PLACE. AND THEY'RE, THEY'VE BEEN VERY GOOD SOLUTIONS. SO, UM, I ECHO EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID AND WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I GO ON THE RECORD TO SAY I WOULD NOT SUPPORT A RESOLUTION AS WELL. SO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MR. CHU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WELL, DART IS A LONG TIME INVESTMENT, AND THIS IS, THIS IS NOT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT, SOMETHING HAPPENED YESTERDAY. IT HAPPENED OVER 20 YEARS AGO. SO THIS IS, UH, YOU KNOW, THE BENEFIT IS GONNA BE COMING, IS GOING TO BE LIKE IN THE FUTURE. UH, IT, WE ALREADY SEE THAT SOME OF THE SIGN OF THE BENEFITS, BUT IT'S GONNA TAKE A FEW MORE YEARS TO GET ALL THIS ADJUSTED. UH, THE GENERATION WHO HAS NOT REALLY USED DART, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO USE MOSTLY, BUT THE PEOPLE MOVING INTO THIS AREA, THEY'RE THE ONE USING DISPROPORTIONATELY VERY HIGH NUMBERS. SO THE MORE DIFFERENT PEOPLE NEED, YOU KNOW, COME MOVES INTO THE AREA, AND THE NEXT GENERATION, YOUNGER GENERATION, THEY'LL BE USING MORE SO THAT SOME OF THE DECISION MAKERS, YOU KNOW, IN OUR NEIGHBORING CITY, PROBABLY THEY DON'T USE THE DART, BECAUSE THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE GROUP THEY'RE IN, THEY'RE NOT USING. UH, SO IT WOULD BE, IT IS NOT, IT IS VERY, I IRRESPONSIBLE TO COME UP WITH A RESOLUTION, CUTTING THE BUDGET THIS TIME, EVEN THIS AUGUST REPORT, IT SHOULD NOT BE A FOCUS TO SEE WHETHER THE BUDGET CAN BE CUT, THE FOCUS SHOULD BE HOW WE CAN IMPROVE IT TO MAKE IT MUCH BETTER. UH, IF THERE IS ANYTHING NEEDED THAT SHOULD BE THE FOCUS. AND MOVING FORWARD, NOT REALLY LOOKING AT CUTTING THE BUDGET. UH, WE ARE STILL, YOU KNOW, IT'S A FOUNDATION THAT HAS BEEN PUT ON 20 YEARS. WE JUST CAN'T PUT A BREAK IN THE MIDDLE AND SAY, WE ARE DONE. UH, COUNCIL MEMBER COMES IN, THERE GOES, NEW MEMBER COMES IN, [00:40:01] NEW MAYOR, MAYOR, GET ELECTED. BUT THE PEOPLE STAYS. WE ARE HERE TO SERVE THE PEOPLE. UH, AND, UH, THIS IS FOR THE PEOPLE. IT'S, EVERYTHING IS ABOUT THE PEOPLE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS, MAYORS, THEY'RE REALLY, THEY'RE THERE JUST TO SERVE THE LONG-TERM INTEREST OF THE COMMUNITIES. I THINK THAT SHOULD BE THE FOCUS. POLITICS SHOULD BE OUT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. BARRIOS. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID. UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT COUNCILMAN HUTCHIN RIDER MENTIONED THAT I WAS THINKING, I WANT TO REITERATE. ONE, ONE THING I ABSOLUTELY AGREE ON IN, IN MY SHORT SERVICE ON THE COUNCIL, THE THINGS THAT I HAVE SEEN, UM, BROUGHT TO DART'S ATTENTION THEY'VE ADDRESSED, UH, EITHER ON A PERSONAL LEVEL WHEN I'VE RECEIVED EMAILS OR, YOU KNOW, IN OPEN SESSION HERE, UM, THE SUGGESTION, THEY'VE TA TAKEN 'EM BACK. THEY'VE THOROUGHLY THOUGHT THROUGH IT. IS IT PERFECT? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. IS, UH, NONE OF US IN EVERYTHING WE DO, UH, ARE WE PERFECT? BUT I THINK THAT DART, FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN, HAVE TAKE, HAS TAKEN A, A LEARNING APPROACH, A COOPERATIVE APPROACH. THEY'VE BEEN A BIG PART OF, UM, THE GROWTH OF RICHARDSON. I CAN ONLY SEE WHERE THEIR ROLE AT RICHARDSON WILL BECOME BIGGER IN THE FUTURE. UM, SO THANK YOU CHAIRMAN SLAGEL FOR, UH, YOUR SERVICE TO DART AND, UH, AND, UH, I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT CONTINUED RELATIONSHIP. I LOOK FORWARD TO, TO, UH, DART BEING A BIGGER PART OF RICHARDSON AND OUR GROWTH IN THE YEARS TO COME. UH, WHETHER IT BECAUSE OF WHAT IT'S GONNA DO TO OUR ECONOMY, UM, FROM THE BUSINESS SIDE, UH, SERVING CURRENT RESIDENTS OR ON THE EDUCATIONAL SIDE AND BRINGING NEW PEOPLE TO OUR AREA. SO THANK YOU AND I, UH, ABSOLUTELY LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THE RESULTS, UH, OF THIS STUDY AND CONTINUING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH DART. THANK YOU, MR. DORIAN. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I, UH, I, I WILL NOT REPEAT, UM, ALL THE THINGS THAT EVERYONE ELSE SAID. I JUST WANNA DITTO EVERYTHING. I, I AGREE. AND, UH, ONE, ONE THING I DID WANT TO ADD IS THE SUSTAINABILITY PART OF THIS. UH, AS AS OUR NORTH TEXAS REGION IS GROWING IN CAPACITY WITH, UH, MORE RESIDENTS AND PEOPLE THAT ARE A YOUNGER GENERATION, WE'RE NEED, WE'RE LOOKING AT SUSTAINABILITY. SO IN ORDER TO DO THAT, WE'RE TAKING CARBONS OFF THE ROAD. UH, WE'RE GOING WITH THE, WE'RE INTRODUCING ELECTRIC VEHICLES. AND DART IS ONLY PROVIDING AN ASSET FOR THAT. IT ADDS TO THE ENTIRE INFRASTRUCTURE, AND I HIGHLY SUPPORT THAT AS WELL. AND I JUST WANT TO ADD THAT ONE KEY POINT. I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE LOOK AT THAT FOR THE FUTURE, FOR OUR, FOR OUR YOUNGER GENERATION AS WELL. AND THANK YOU, GARY AND MARK FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK. THANK YOU, COUNSEL. MR. SLAGEL, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COMMENT ON ANYTHING? WELL, YES, THANK YOU. OKAY. THE OPPORTUNITY, IT'S, IT'S GREAT TO BE HERE AND IT'S GREAT TO HEAR THIS POSITIVE INPUT, , I UNDERSTAND WHY SOME OF THE CITIES ARE DOING WHAT THEY'RE DOING, BECAUSE THERE'S A IMBALANCE THAT HAS BEEN CREATED WITH SALES TAX. THOSE WHO ARE NOT A PART OF DART CAN USE THOSE, THAT 1 CENT TO DO OTHER THINGS. AND IT MAKES IT DIFFICULT FOR THIS CITY AND THE OTHER MEMBER CITIES TO COMPETE WITH THOSE THAT DON'T HAVE DART. SO I, THAT, THAT IS AN ISSUE. IT IS A LEGISLATIVE ISSUE, AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS, NEEDS TO BE TAKEN UP. IT'S PROBABLY NOT OUR AGENDA, BUT I KNOW IT WILL BE THE, THE AGENDA OF SOME OF THE CITIES. WE'LL CERTAINLY SUPPORT THAT. BUT LET ME JUST SAY, I, I'M, I'M, I'M DISAPPOINTED THAT THE, THAT THE OTHER CITIES IN THE REGION WHO HAVE COME OUT SO FAR HAVE DONE IT AT THIS TIME, BECAUSE I AGREE WITH ALL OF YOU. LET'S SEE WHAT THE STUDIES TELL US, AND THEN LET'S USE THAT INFORMATION. IF WE NEED TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS IN WHAT WE DO, HOW WE WORK WITH THE CITIES, WE WILL CERTAINLY DO THAT. UM, I, I'M DISHEARTENED BECAUSE I WAS HEADED NORTH ON QUITE LAST WEEK, AND I ACTUALLY WENT OVER THE TRACKS. WE'RE SEEING THE SILVER LINE BEING BUILT NEXT WEEK. WE'LL SEE THE SILVER LINE RUNNING TRIALS THROUGH RICHARDSON. THERE HAVE BEEN SOME CARS THAT HAVE RUN THROUGH HERE ALREADY. AND SO WITH THAT AS THE BACKDROP, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAYBE LOOKING AT REDUCING REVENUE AND FOR DART. AND THE MORE WE GROW OUR SERVICE, THE MORE EXPENSIVE IT IS. SO TO TAKE FUNDING AWAY AT THIS POINT IN TIME, CREATE PROBLEMS AND SERVICING DEBT AND, AND MAINTAINING THE SYSTEM WE HAVE DOING THE THINGS WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO IMPROVE IT. SO I'M HOPEFUL THAT WE AS [00:45:01] A, AS A COUNCIL OR AS A, UH, DART BOARD GROUP, WILL BE ABLE TO WORK WITH THE CITIES TO, TO SATISFY SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT THEY HAVE. I'M ONLY ONE BOARD MEMBER, AND SO I CAN'T CONTROL ANY OF THIS, BUT I CAN TRY TO INFLUENCE IT, AND I WILL DO THAT. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR INPUT BECAUSE THAT'S HELPFUL. UM, THOSE STUDIES ARE IMPORTANT. THE STUDY THAT IS DONE BY THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION COUNCIL WILL SEE THE DRAFT LEGISLATIVE INITIATIVE IN AUGUST. IT'LL BE RELEASED IN OCTOBER, BUT AT THE RTC LEVEL, WE'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THAT AND, AND SEE WHAT KIND OF RECOMMENDATIONS THEY HAVE. THEY ALSO ARE LOOKING AT ORIGINAL REGIONAL FINANCIAL MODELS. SO IF WE ADD MORE CITIES, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? WHICH IS WHAT WE REALLY NEED TO BE FOCUSED ON AND TRYING TO DO. SO IT'S, IT'S, UM, A STUDY THAT WE'RE DOING WITH ERNST AND YOUNG TO, UM, SORT OF THE COST ANALYSIS STUDY. HOW MUCH MONEY ARE WE SPENDING IN EACH OF THE MEMBER CITIES WILL BE VERY INTERESTING BECAUSE THERE ARE GONNA BE SOME CITIES THAT ARE DONORS AND SOME CITIES THAT ARE DONORSEE. AND WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, WE THINK WE KNOW WHICH THOSE ARE, BUT WE WILL KNOW AFTER THAT STUDY'S COMPLETED. AND WE'LL PROBABLY ALSO HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM ERNST AND YOUNG AS TO WHAT WE MIGHT WANNA CONSIDER DOING AS A REGION. AND THOSE TWO ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE DOING THE TWO STUDIES, WE'LL TALK TO EACH OTHER. AND SO WE'LL HAVE A, A GREAT DEAL OF INFORMATION, UH, TO WORK WITH IN THE NEAR FUTURE. SO WITH THAT, I'LL, I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY, BUT I'M, I'M OPTIMISTIC ABOUT WHERE WE'RE GOING. I THINK THE, UH, AND THIS IS REALLY INTERESTING, BUT TODAY WE MET WITH THE FOLKS FROM UTD THAT ARE DOING THE SIGNALIZATION COORDINATION THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WHEN NADINE WAS HERE. AND THEY'VE ACTUALLY DONE SOME MODELS WHERE THEY SHOWED UP, THEY ACTUALLY DID THIS. THEY, IT WAS A VIDEO OF SOMETHING SHE HAD DONE, BUT A, A BUS IS COMING DOWN AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THE LIGHT'S ABOUT TO TURN GREEN, IT TURNS GREEN AND THE BUS GOES THROUGH, BUT THERE'S ANOTHER BUS AT THE TOP OF THE HILL COMING DOWN ALSO. AND THE SYSTEM HAS TO DECIDE, DO I GO RED AND GREEN? WHAT DO I DO? AND, YOU KNOW, IT STAYED GREEN AND THAT BUS WENT THROUGH AND IT WAS VERY SMOOTH. WELL, YOU CAN IMAGINE OUR BIGGEST ISSUE ON, ON-TIME SERVICE IS TRAFFIC WITH OUR BUSES. SO WHAT WE HOPE TO BE ABLE TO DO, AND WHAT I HOPE WE CAN DO IS ENGAGE WITH THAT UTD TEAM AND SEE IF WE CAN'T DO SOMETHING IN RICHARDSON AND THEN ACROSS THE REGION TO BE ABLE TO MAKE OUR BUS SERVICE MORE RELIABLE IF THE CITIES ARE WILLING TO HELP US WITH PRIORITIZATION AND SOME OF THOSE THINGS. BUT I MEAN, IT, IT WAS ON OUR ROADMAP TO DO THIS. UTD HAS IT, AND UH, NOW IT'S UP TO US TO WORK WITH 'EM. SO THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE GOING, THAT ARE HAPPENING REGARDING TECHNOLOGY THAT, UH, WE'RE KEEPING AN EYE ON. AND YOU CAN'T DO THOSE THINGS IF YOU START TO REDUCE THE FUNDS. WE NEED TO SPEND THEM WISELY. WE NEED OUR CITIES TO FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT WE ARE SPENDING THEM WISELY, AND THEN WE NEED TO DO WHAT'S BEST FOR THIS REGION. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT. IT IS GREATLY APPRECIATED. I HOPE WE'LL HAVE THIS ON VIDEO AND I'M GONNA SEND IT AROUND TO MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS. . THANK YOU, MR. SLAGEL. UM, MARK, THANK YOU FOR YOUR GREAT PRESENTATION. I THINK WE'RE READY TO MOVE ON. AND I WILL JUST ADD BEFORE WE LEAVE THAT TOPIC, THAT, UM, WE DO APPRECIATE DART'S PRESENCE AND DART'S EFFORTS TO, UH, MAKE THINGS BETTER WHEN ASKED TO DO SO. AND I THINK THOSE ARE PARTNERSHIPS THAT ARE LONG LASTING IN ONES THAT WE'RE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF. UM, THE CITIES THAT HAVE PUT OUT THESE, UH, RESOLUTIONS AND SO FORTH, HAVE ASKED US IN THE CITY OF RICHARDSON TO JOIN THEM IN DOING THAT. AND THAT HAS NOT BEEN SOMETHING THAT WE ARE WILLING TO DO. AND SO WE HAVE A STANCE JUST FOR EVERYONE TO KNOW. WE HAVE TAKEN THAT STANCE. I HAVE TAKEN THAT STANCE ON BEHAN ON BEHALF OF THE COUNCIL AND OUR CITY MANAGEMENT TEAM. WE ARE NOT PREPARED TO SIGN THAT DOCUMENT, SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT DART UNTIL THEY GIVE US A REASON NOT TO. SO, THERE YOU GO. SO THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MAYOR. AT THIS TIME WE'RE GO TO ITEM SEVEN, REVIEW AND DISCUSS FISCAL YEAR 24 AND 2025 PARK MAINTENANCE STRATEGIES. MR. MAGNER, WHAT? MAYOR, WHAT, WHAT DID I MISS SOMETHING? YOU MISSED ONE. I MISSED SOMETHING. OKAY. IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY, FOLKS. I APOLOGIZE, SIR. WE'RE GONNA GO [7. REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE PUBLIC ART SELECTION FOR THE LIBRARY] TO ITEM SEVEN, REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE PUBLIC ART SELECTION FOR THE LIBRARY. [00:50:01] MR. MAGNER. GREAT. I I DO WOULD WOULDN'T MIND, MEREDITH, IF YOU WANNA DO THE PARKS PRESENTATION, YOU'RE, YOU'RE HAPPY TO GO , BUT A FAMILIAR FACE, UH, SOMEBODY WHO'S DONE, UM, JUST A MARVELOUS JOB ON TWO PRIOR PROJECTS FOR US. UH, MEREDITH MCKINLEY IS HERE. SHE'S GONNA RUN US THROUGH THE PUBLIC ART RECOMMENDATION FOR THE, UH, LIBRARY AS WELL AS THE PROCESS WE'LL BE USING FOR CITY HALL. I ALSO WANNA, UH, JUST ACKNOWLEDGE, UH, JENNY DAVIDSON AND MARINA PATRICK OUT IN THE AUDIENCE THERE. UM, I THINK THEY'RE PREPARED TO GIVE A THUMBS UP AT THE END OF THE PRESENTATION. IF NOT, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND GO , . BUT, UH, MEREDITH, THANKS FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE THANK TO GET US, UH, TO THIS POINT TONIGHT. AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR COUNCIL. UM, A QUICK UPDATE. SO WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THE, UM, ART SELECTION FOR THE PUBLIC LIBRARY, AND THEN I DO WANNA GIVE YOU A QUICK UPDATE ON CITY HALL AS WELL. UM, SO, UM, WE HAVE TWO PROJECTS FOR THE, UH, LIBRARY PUBLIC ART. AS YOU RECALL FROM OUR EARLIER PRESENTATION WITH SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, THERE'S AN INTERIOR AND AN EXTERIOR PIECE. UM, AND WE HAD A REALLY FANTASTIC SELECTION PANEL, AND THEY PUT IN A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK, INCLUDING, UH, JENNY AND RENA, UM, AND OTHERS. AND SO, AND YOU'LL SEE IN A MINUTE, UM, WHAT I MEAN BY THAT, UM, UH, WE SHARED THESE GOALS WITH YOU AT THE BEGINNING OF OUR PROCESS. THESE ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO THE SELECTION PROCESS. WE REVIEW THE GOALS AT EVERY MEETING, AND WE TAKE THESE INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN WE LOOK AT THE ARTISTS, UM, AND THE ARTISTS' PROPOSALS, UM, FOR EACH PROJECT. UM, AND, UM, I WON'T READ ALL OF THESE TO YOU AGAIN HERE, BUT REALLY THINKING ABOUT, UM, THE AUDIENCE, THE MISSION OF THE LIBRARY ITSELF, UM, AND ENHANCING THAT EXPERIENCE FOR, UM, FOR LIBRARY USERS. SO THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY, AS YOU MAY RECALL, UM, IS THIS, UM, UH, ART ZONE. IT'S THE TWO STORY SPACE IN THE CHILDREN'S AREA. IT CONNECTS THE CHILDREN'S AREA WITH THE JUVENILE AREA. SO IT'S A NEW OPENING BETWEEN THE FIRST AND SECOND FLOORS OF THE BUILDING. IT'S CONNECTED WITH A STAIRCASE. UM, AND, UM, WE CREATED THAT ZONE FOR AN ARTIST TO CREATE SOMETHING THAT IS SUSPENDED FROM THE CEILING, THAT'S VISIBLE FROM THE FIRST AND SECOND FLOORS, AS WELL AS FROM THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING. WE HAD 101 ARTISTS APPLY FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY, HENCE THE HARD WORK OF OUR SELECTION PANEL. THEY REVIEWED 101 ARTIST APPLICATIONS AND SELECTED FROM THAT 101 ARTIST, THREE FINALISTS, PETE GOLDBLATT, BRAD OLDHAM, SCULPTURE, AND SOFT LAB. UM, AND, UM, EACH OF THOSE ARTISTS MET WITH OUR DESIGN TEAM. THEY MET WITH THE LIBRARY STAFF, AND THEN THEY WENT BACK TO THEIR STUDIOS AND CREATED A SITE SPECIFIC PROPOSAL, UM, THAT THEY PRESENTED TO THE SELECTION PANEL A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO. AND THE RECOMMENDED, UM, ARTIST FOR THIS PROJECT IS SOFT LAB. SOFT LAB'S, A DESIGN STUDIO THAT COMBINES RESEARCH, TECHNOLOGY AND IDEAS TO CRAFT WORK THAT SPANS MULTIPLE MEDIUMS AND SCALES. IT, UH, IS A STUDIO THAT WAS FUND, UH, FOUNDED AND IS LED BY MIKE SVOS. MIKE IS A GRADUATE OF LOUISIANA STATE UNIVERSITY AND COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY, AND HE'S, UH, DEVELOPED THE STUDIO IS NOW BASED IN NEW YORK. UM, AND HE ALSO HAPPENS TO TEACH, UM, AT YALE, UM, THEIR CONCEPT LIGHTER THAN AIR EXPLORES COLOR ORGANIZATION AND MATH BEHIND BUBBLES. SO INSPIRED HOW, HOW, BY HOW LIBRARIES CULTIVATE NEW IDEAS. UM, THIS IS THE IDEA OR THE, THE MAIN HEART OF THEIR PROPOSAL. UM, MOST PEOPLE THINK OF A LIBRARY AS A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CONSUME MEDIA, BUT IT'S ALSO A PLACE OF ENCOUNTER DEBATE AND DIALOGUE. BUBBLES ARE ALSO OFTEN USED GRAPHICALLY TO EVOKE THE FORMATION OF AN IDEA. UM, THEY'RE PLAYFUL AND THEY CAN BE EFFECTIVELY USED. THEY CAN BE EFFECTIVE IN TEACHING A WIDE VARIETY OF CONCEPTS TO YOUNG CHILDREN. THEIR CONCEPT IS MADE UP OF AN ARRAY OF FLOATING BUBBLE CLUSTERS IN A FULL SPECTRUM OF COLOR, AS PEOPLE MOVE BELOW AND AROUND THE MEZZANINE OF THE DOUBLE HEIGHT SPACE. THIS HATCHING ANIMATION, UM, UH, THIS HATCHING ANIMATES THE FIELD OF BUBBLES, OFFERING UNEXPECTED COMBINATIONS OF COLORS AND VIEWS. UM, SO THE OVERALL FIELD, OR HERE YOU SEE ANOTHER SORT OF CLUSTER. THE OVERALL FIELD OF BUBBLE CLUSTERS CONSIST OF SEVEN CLUSTERS MEASURING BETWEEN SIX AND SIX AND A HALF FEET AND WIDTH DEPTH AND HEIGHT DIMENSIONS. AND AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THEY'RE ALSO PLACED AT A SAFE DISTANCE AWAY FROM THE RAILING AND THE MEZZANINE. AND HERE'S A RENDERING THEY'RE MADE OF, UM, POWDER COATED ALUMINUM. AND THE PLANES HAVE SIMILAR COLORS PER CLUSTER. UM, AND THE FIELD OF CLUSTERS CREATE A FULL SPECTRUM OF VIBRANT COLOR. UH, THE PLANES OF EACH CLUSTER HAVE [00:55:01] PARALLEL HATCH CUTOUTS THAT CREATE A MORAY PATTERN AS PEOPLE MOVE AROUND THE SPACE AND VIEW THE CLUSTERS FROM VARIOUS ANGLES. UM, SO HE'S INTERESTED IN IDEAS AROUND PATTERN INTERFERENCE. IT'S MEANT TO EVOKE CURIOSITY AND AN EXPLORATION OF THE ARTWORK AND THE SPACE AROUND IT. SEE ANOTHER RENDERING AND VISIBLE FROM OUTSIDE. WE'VE BEEN TALKING WITH THE ARTISTS ABOUT POTENTIALLY, UM, UH, ELEVATING ONE OF THE BUBBLES A LITTLE BIT SO THAT IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE VISIBLE FROM THE MEZZANINE AS WELL AS FROM THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING. AS THE NEXT STEP IN THE DESIGN PROCESS, HE'LL FI HE WILL FINALIZE THE SIGHTING OF THE PIECES, THEIR EXACT DIMENSION AND SCALE AND RELATIONSHIP TO EACH OTHER, AND ALSO WILL WORK COLLABORATIVELY WITH, UM, THE ARCHITECTS AT STEINBERG HEART TO, UM, UH, MAKE SURE THAT THE GLASS AND THE RAILING THERE, UM, COMPLIMENTS THE ARTWORK. SO THERE'LL BE SOME COLLABORATIVE WORK MOVING INTO FINAL DESIGN. UM, WHILE CREATING THE PAPER STUDY MODELS FOR THEIR PROPOSAL, UM, MIKE REALIZED THAT THERE WAS ALSO THIS POTENTIAL TO CREATE PRE-MADE CRAFT SUPPLIES THAT WOULD ALLOW CHILDREN AND YOUNG ADULTS TO BUILD THEIR OWN BUBBLES. UM, AND THEY REALIZED THAT OPPORTUNITY THERE ALSO TO, UM, TEACH A VARIETY OF, UM, IDEAS. SO FLEXIBILITY, COLOR FORMATION, MIRRORED SERVICES, TRANSPARENCY, UM, ELASTIC PROPERTIES, ET CETERA. ALL OF THESE CAN BE SORT OF TAUGHT THROUGH THE SCIENCE OF BUBBLES. AND SO THIS IS JUST A, UM, AN IDEA THAT WE LIKED VERY MUCH THAT COULD BE A CRAFT PROJECT AT THE LIBRARY THAT RELATES TO THE ARTWORK. UM, I WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU THE OTHER PROPOSALS THAT OTHER ARTISTS DID A FANTASTIC JOB AS WELL. PETE GOLD BUS STUDIO, UM, HAD A VERY MULTI-LAYERED PROPOSAL CALLED THE RICHARDSON MIX. IT INCLUDED LASER CUT ALUMINUM AND HEAT FORMED ECO RESIN PANELS THAT WOULD BE SUSPENDED FROM THE CEILING, A VINYL MURAL, UM, AND ACCENT WALL RELIEF FEATURES, UM, MADE OUT OF LASER CUT ALUMINUM. AND THEN BRAD OLDHAM STUDIO HAD A PROPOSAL THAT THEY CALLED THE CATALOGERS AND INVOLVED MULTIPLE CHARACTERS THAT TENDED TO THE LIBRARY, AND THEY WERE, UM, CAST IN BRONZE, UM, INCLUDING TWO THAT WERE SUSPENDED FROM THE OPENING. OUR NEXT OPPORTUNITY EX THE EXTERIOR SCULPTURE. UM, WE OFFERED TWO POSSIBLE ZONES, THE AREA IN FRONT OF THE LIBRARY ENTRANCE, AS WELL AS THE SIDEWALK AREA TO THE SOUTHWEST OF THE LIBRARY. AND WE HAD 102 ARTISTS APPLY FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY. SO AGAIN, THANK YOU SELECTION PANEL. UM, WE HAD, UM, UH, TWO OF THE SAME FINALISTS, PETE GOLDBLATT AND BRAD OLDHAM SCULPTURE, UM, AND THEN A THIRD FINALIST, MARK . AND THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO GO WITH BRAD OLDHAM SCULPTURE. UM, BRAD OLDHAM SCULPTURE IS A COLLABORATION BETWEEN BRAD OLDHAM AND CHRISTY COLTRANE. CHRISTY DEVELOPS THE NARRATIVES AND BRAD IS THE SCULPTOR. THEY'RE VERY WELL KNOWN IN THE, AND THE DALLAS FORT WORTH REGION. YOU CAN FIND THE WORK IN COMMUNITY, BUT YOU CAN ALSO FIND THE WORK IN COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE UNITED STATES. THE AREA THAT THEY HAVE FOCUSED ON IS THIS AREA ADJACENT TO THE DRIVE, UM, WITH THE RELOCATION OF THE LIBRARY ENTRANCE. THEY FELT THAT THIS WAS A GREAT WAY TO WELCOME VISITORS AND, AND HELP THEM REORIENT TO THIS NEW, UM, PATTERN OF ARRIVING TO THE AIR, UH, TO THE LIBRARY. THEIR PROPOSAL, THEIR WORK, AND REALLY THEIR SIGNATURE MATERIAL IS THIS HIGHLY POLISHED STAINLESS STEEL. UM, IT'S A LOW MAINTENANCE MATERIAL THAT RETAINS ITS BEAUTY IN AN OUTDOOR ENVIRONMENT AND IS EASY TO CLEAN AND MAINTAIN. THEIR CONCEPT IS TITLED ENCHANTED SILICON PRAIRIE. IT FEATURES OVERSIZED TEXAS WILDFLOWERS AND VIBRANT COLORS AND DYNAMIC SHAPES. ACCOMPANYING THE SCULPTURE IS A STACK OF BOOKS WITH AN OPEN BOOK AND A PEN, INVITING THE VIEWER TO WRITE THEIR OWN STORY, AS WELL AS THE WELL-KNOWN BIRD TO WITNESS THE JOURNAL ENTRY. AND YOU MIGHT RECOGNIZE THE BIRD. UM, THERE WAS A BIRD AT THE RICHARDSON LIBRARY FOR SEVERAL YEARS ON LOAN. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE SELECTION PANEL REALLY LIKED ABOUT THIS PROPOSAL WAS THAT CONTINUITY BETWEEN THE OLD AND THE NEW WITH THE ARTWORK IN TERMS OF SCALE, THE FLOWERS ARE ABOUT, UH, SEVEN AND A HALF TO EIGHT FEET TALL. THE BIRD STANDS AT ABOUT 20 INCHES. AND THE CONCRETE BASES THAT HE'S SHOWING THERE ABOUT 12 INCHES HIGH HERE ARE THE FLOWERS THAT, UH, INSPIRE THE DESIGN. AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT ALTHOUGH THE RENDERING SORT OF SHOWS THEM SORT OF, UM, SORT OF, UH, STANDING SORT OF IN A LINE, UM, UH, BRAD AND [01:00:01] CHRISTIE WILL WORK WITH THE DESIGN TEAM TO, UM, SORT OF CREATE A, A NICE PLACEMENT AREA. THEY'LL WORK WITH THEM IN THE FINAL DESIGN TO DO APPROPRIATE LANDSCAPING AND HARDSCAPING AROUND THEM TO MAKE IT SAFE, UM, AND ENJOYABLE FOR PEOPLE TO GET THEIR PICTURE TAKEN AND VISIT WITH THE SCULPTURES. AND AGAIN, WE HAD TWO OTHER PROPOSALS. PETE GOLD LUSTS, UM, PROPOSAL WAS AN EXTENSION OF THEIR RICHARDSON MIX AND INCLUDED THESE FOUR SCULPTURES THAT WERE INSPIRED BY, UM, UH, AS IF, UH, ALIENS WERE, WERE VISITING RICHARDSON. AND THEN, UH, UH, MARK REMAN HAD HIS BUTTERFLY EFFECT, UM, THESE MASSIVE BUTTERFLY WINGS, UM, UH, THAT WERE CONNECTED BY A CENTER POINT MADE OUT OF, UH, STEEL AND THREE FORM, WHICH IS A TYPE OF OUTDOOR, UH, PLASTIC, UM, TO CREATE A DYNAMIC INTERPLAY OF LIGHT AND COLOR. A QUICK UPDATE ON, UM, OUR CITY HALL AND CIVIC PLAZA PROCESS, WHICH WILL BE, UM, GETTING STARTED ON NEXT MONTH. UM, THE TOTAL PUBLIC ART BUDGET FOR CITY HALL AND CIVIC PLAZA IS A MILLION DOLLARS. UM, THAT INCLUDES, UM, SOME CONTINGENCY THAT WILL SET ASIDE AS WELL AS THE COST FOR THE SELECTION PROCESS, UM, AND ANY KIND OF INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S GONNA BE NEEDED TO SUPPORT THE ARTWORK AT THAT SITE. UM, WE HAVE AN EXTENDED SELECTION PANEL FOR THIS GROUP, SO TWO MEMBERS OF THE CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION, A MEMBER OF THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION, TWO LOCAL ARTS PROFESSIONALS, TWO CITY HALL STAFF MEMBERS, SO PEOPLE WHO ARE, UM, GONNA BE, UM, ST UH, STAFFING, UM, CITY HALL. AND THEN OUR, UM, AS WE HAVE WITH THE OTHER PROJECTS, UM, REPRESENTED FROM THE ARCHITECTURE FIRM AND, UM, FROM THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE EX OFFICIO ISSUE. UM, GOALS, AGAIN, BECOME VERY IMPORTANT TO THE SELECTION PROCESS. THESE GOALS WERE DEVELOPED, UM, UH, WITH INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY, ENGAGEMENT THAT HAP THAT HAS BEEN HAPPENING AROUND CITY HALL, UM, AS WELL AS, UM, MULTIPLE CONVERSATIONS WITH STAFF AND WITH THE DESIGN TEAM. UM, AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW THAT I WANNA READ ALL OF THESE, BUT I, BUT I THINK UNDERSTANDING THAT, THAT THESE GOALS WILL BE, UM, SORT OF AT THE FOREFRONT OF THE SELECTION PROCESS IN TERMS OF, UM, UM, THINKING ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THE ARTISTS ARE ACHIEVING THESE GOALS. AND THAT BECOMES A PART, AN IMPORTANT PART OF, OF HOW WE THINK ABOUT, OR HOW THE SELECTION PANEL WILL BE INSTRUCTED TO THINK ABOUT WHAT'S AN APPROPRIATE ARTIST FOR THE PROJECT. OUR ART OPPORTUNITY ZONE, UM, IS THIS AREA, I'M LIKE, AFRAID I'M GONNA DO THIS. SO HERE YOU CAN SEE IT'S MARKED IN ORANGE. UM, SO THIS HAS SORT OF BEEN AN AREA THAT YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN AND, AND, UM, AS MULTIPLE PRESENTATIONS FOR CITY HALL, UM, IS AN AREA THAT HAS HAD SCULPTURE IN IT. UM, THIS ZONE, UM, UM, CREATES WONDERFUL VIEWS FROM, UM, THE ROTUNDA, THE, THE, UM, UH, AT CITY HALL, UM, FROM THE, UH, LEADERSHIP GROVE, FROM THE FOUNTAIN, FROM THE LIBRARY. IT SORT OF IS A NICE SORT OF SYMMETRICAL APPROACH TO THINKING ABOUT ART IN THE PLAZA. UM, AND SO WE WANTED TO GIVE THIS ENTIRE ZONE TO AN ARTIST TO CONSIDER IN TERMS OF CITING THE WORK ITSELF. IN TERMS OF PROCESS, WE'LL BE FOLLOWING A VERY SIMILAR PROCESS, OR PRETTY MUCH THE SAME PROCESS AS WE HAVE FOR THESE PREVIOUS FOUR PROJECTS. WE'LL ISSUE AN OPEN CALL FOR ARTISTS. UM, THE ELIGIBILITY WILL BE ARTISTS RESIDING IN THE UNITED STATES. WE'LL, AS WITH THE PREVIOUS PROJECTS, DO RESEARCH AND DO A LOT OF OUTREACH TO TEXAS BASED ARTISTS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A GREAT OPPOR, A GREAT SELECTION OF TEXAS BASED ARTISTS, AS WELL AS NATIONAL ARTISTS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. UM, OUR SELECTION PANEL WILL REVIEW QUALIFICATIONS, SELECT FINALISTS, AND THEN THE FINALISTS WILL PUT TOGETHER A PROPOSAL THAT WILL BE PRESENTED BACK TO THE SELECTION PANEL. THAT PROPOSAL THEN GOES TO THE CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION, AND THEN CITY COUN, CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL. AND WE'RE OFF TO THE RACES NEXT MONTH. WE WILL, UM, BE ISSUING THE CALL FOR ARTISTS, UM, UH, SOMETIME NEXT MONTH. UM, AND WE'LL MOVE THROUGH THIS SELECTION PROCESS THROUGH THE END OF THE YEAR, UM, WITH A GOAL OF HAVING A RECOMMENDATION BACK TO COUNCIL IN JUNE OF NEXT YEAR. UM, SO WE WANNA TAKE OUR TIME WITH THE SELECTION PROCESS. IT'S A EXTREMELY IMPORTANT PROJECT, UM, FOR THE CITY, AND WE WANNA TAKE OUR TIME AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE RIGHT ARTIST FOR THIS SITE. ANY QUESTIONS? OH, NEXT STEPS. LIGHTS [01:05:01] WENT UP FAST, MS. JUSTICE. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE ART AT THE LIBRARY. I THINK IT'S GREAT. UM, THE BUBBLES I THINK ARE COLORFUL AND AMAZING. I'M ALSO KIND OF OBSESSED WITH THE CATALOGERS. I THINK THAT'S ADORABLE, AND I REALLY WISH WE COULD FIND A PLACE TO PUT IT. I THINK THAT'S A REALLY CUTE IDEA. AND THE TRAPEZE AND, UM, SO I'M, I'M SAD WE CAN'T HAVE BOTH. UM, I THINK THEY'RE BOTH GREAT, BUT I THINK THE CATALOGERS ARE KIND OF ADORABLE ALSO. UH, AND THEN I THINK THE WILDFLOWERS OUTSIDE, I MEAN, THAT'S RICHARD'S INTO A T AND I THINK THAT THAT'S A REALLY, REALLY GREAT RESPONSE BY THE ARTIST, AND I THINK IT'LL LOOK FANTASTIC OUT THERE. SO, GOOD JOB TO THE, TO THE COMMITTEE. I THINK THAT, THAT, UH, ALL THE FINALISTS WERE GREAT. AND, UM, IF WE CAN FIND MONEY SOMEWHERE, DON, I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO HAVE THE CATALOGERS IN THE LIBRARY TOO. I THINK THEY'RE CUTE. . MR. DORIA. THANK YOU, MAYOR MEREDITH, THANK YOU, UH, SO MUCH FOR THIS PRESENTATION. I, I, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THIS THURSDAY NIGHT AS WELL, BUT, UM, I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH YOU WHILE SERVING ON THE CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION PRIOR, AND I THINK YOU'VE ALWAYS BEEN VERY THOROUGH IN GETTING AND MAKING THIS A REALITY. ALSO WANNA THANK THE, UH, SELECTION PANEL AND THE CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT THAT GOES INTO THIS. AND FOR A HUNDRED OVER A HUNDRED APPLICATIONS, I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S THE MOST THAT WE'VE EVER HAD. OH, ABSOLUTELY. BY ALL MEANS. I MEAN, I, I CAN'T IMAGINE HOW LONG THAT ACTUALLY TOOK TO JUST REVIEW THEIR WORK AND THEIR PORTFOLIO. SO, UH, JUST HATS OFF TO EVERYONE THAT WAS INVOLVED. I'M VERY, VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT. THIS IS CERTAINLY GONNA ENHANCE AND, UM, ADD A LITTLE EXTRA, WE'LL CALL IT, TO OUR, OUR NEW CITY, UH, CO, UH, COMMON AREA AND THE NEW CITY HALL. SO THANK YOU AGAIN. I APPRECIATE IT. MR. HUTCHER. RUTTER. THANK YOU. MAYOR, COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE EXTERIOR, UH, ARTWORK FOR THE LIBRARY FOR JUST ONE SECOND? SURE. ONE THING CAUGHT MY EYE AND, AND I MAY BE THE OKAY. UH, GO, GO ONE FORWARD ONE. OH, FORWARD ONE. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. UM, I, I LOVE THE IDEA. THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE, AND I MAY BE THE ONLY ONE WHO THINKS THAT WAY, AND IF SO, THEN I'LL BE QUIET. THE CITY OF GARLAND HAS ABSOLUTELY TAKEN THE FIRE WHEEL. IT'S IN ALL OF THEIR BROCHURES. IT'S IN ALL OF THEIR REFERENCES. IT'S EVERYWHERE. AND SO MY ONLY QUESTION IS I LOVE THE OTHER THREE. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT CAUSES ANYBODY ELSE PAUSE. I JUST WANTED TO THROW IT OUT THERE. SO AT LEAST THEN IF WE PUT IT UP AND SOMEBODY COMES BACK AND GOES, OH, WELL HOW COME YOU COPIED GARLAND? I AT LEAST COULD SAY THERE'S MY CONCERN. SO I JUST THROW IT OUT THERE. DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE SHARES IT, BUT I JUST THOUGHT I WOULD THROW IT OUT. 'CAUSE IT DID. IT'S WHAT HIT ME AS SOON AS I SAW IT, BECAUSE I DO LIVE HERE ON THE EAST SIDE AND I SEE THAT MM-HMM, , I SEE THAT EVERY SINGLE DAY. THAT I, I, YOU KNOW IT, 'CAUSE YOU CAN'T LIVE IN RICHARDSON, BUT YOU TRAVERSE A LOT THROUGH GARLAND AND IT'S EVERYWHERE. SO THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN. I JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE. THANK YOU, MR. CORCORAN. OH YEAH, SORRY. I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, HUTCHIN RE'S COMMENT AND, UH, I THINK, YEAH, NO, I THINK THAT IT AS PRESENTED RIGHT HERE. YEAH, IT WOULD. BUT MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE WITH THE DESIGN OF THE FIRE WHEEL THAT MAKES IT VERY DISTINCT FROM THE GARLAND LOGO. AGREED. RIGHT. YEAH. UM, 'CAUSE I KNOW THAT WHAT THE, I GUESS WHAT THE, UH, THE SELECTION COMMITTEE VOTED ON WAS LIKE THESE CORE FLOWERS. SO I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WOULD WORK. RIGHT. I AGREE WITH YOU. I JUST WANTED TO BRING IT UP. I AGREE WITH YOU THOUGH. YEAH. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IF, IF WE'RE NOT CAREFUL, IT COULD LOOK ALMOST IDENTICAL TO THE GARLAND CITY LOGO. UM, BUT YEAH, I JUST WANNA SAY, SAY GREAT WORK ON EVERYTHING ELSE, THOUGH. UM, AND THIS, I MEAN, JUST GREAT WORK ON EVERYTHING. THANK YOU. Y'ALL WORKED HARD. UM, I DID HAVE A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT THE, WHILE WE'RE ON THE TOPIC OF ART, WHERE DOES ALL THE, WHERE, WHERE ARE WE PLANNING FOR ALL THOSE PAINTINGS TO GO FROM? LIKE THE EMERGING ARTISTS AWARDS? I MEAN, I KNOW WE HAVE, WE'VE GOTTA HAVE DOZENS OF PAINTINGS JUST KIND OF LOCKED IN A VAULT, LIKE READY TO BE PLACED AROUND. RIGHT. SO THOSE WERE ACTUALLY RETURNED TO THE RICHARDSON CIVIC ART SOCIETY. OH, OKAY. AFTER THEY WERE CALLED. SO SOME OF THEM WERE KEPT AND THEY'RE IN THE LIBRARY NOW. OKAY. THE REST WERE RETURNED AND THE CIVIC ART SOCIETY HAS THEM IN THEIR DISPLAY ROTATION AT SOME OF OUR FACILITIES AND ARE, OR GAVE THEM BACK TO THE ARTIST OR ARE SELLING THEM. I SEE. OKAY. COOL. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU FOR THE, THE UPDATE THERE. AWESOME. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANKS. THANK YOU MR. BARRIOS. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, I LOVE IT. I ESPECIALLY LOVE THE ENCHANT ENCHANTED SILICON PRAIRIE. ABSOLUTELY LOVE THE IDEA. I LOVE THE PICTURES YOU SHOW THAT POLISH, UH, IS THAT POLISH STEEL? UM, I FORGET WHAT YOU SAID IT WAS. YEAH. POLISH STAINLESS. YEAH. POLISH STAINLESS. I LOVE THE IDEA. EXCITED ABOUT IT. I JUST LOOKED UP THE GARLAND'S LOGO. I'M NOT TOO CONCERNED ABOUT IT. UM, IF THEY SAY YOU COPIED US, NO, WE DIDN'T. UH, Y'ALL DID IT FIRST. WE DID IT BETTER . UM, BUT, UH, BUT IT'S NOT A LOGO, IT'S JUST ONE OF FOUR. AND I'M CONCERNED [01:10:01] ABOUT THAT. BUT I'M ABSOLUTELY EXCITED ABOUT THIS. AND THE INTERIOR LOOKS GREAT TOO, BUT I, I'M EXCITED TO SEE THIS PIECE. UH, SO THANK YOU. THANKS, MR. . THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WELL, THAT'S GREAT. I THINK, I LOVE ALL THE SELECT SELECT, YOU KNOW, SELECTED ART. UH, YOU GUYS HAVE DONE REALLY GREAT JOB, ESPECIALLY HAVING FREE STANDING ARTWORK INSTEAD OF TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, I LOVE FREE STANDING. I DON'T LIKE SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE TO, UH, STICK IT TO KEEP IT STANDING. SO, AND ALSO THIS IS ALMOST LIKE MAINTENANCE FREE, THE MATERIAL THAT YOU USE. I KNOW THAT THAT WILL LAST FOREVER. UH, ONE QUESTION PROBABLY, I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS APPROPRIATE TO ASK IT HERE OR NOT, BUT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN? THE OLD ARTWORK THAT'S ALREADY OUT THERE, ESPECIALLY THE HUMPTY DUMPTY, UH, ANYONE CAN ANSWER. I MEAN, OR THAT'S ANOTHER TIME. YEAH. THE HUMPTY DUMPTY HAS, UM, IT'S PROTECTED RIGHT NOW FOR CONSTRUCTION. THE OTHER ARTWORK THAT WAS INSIDE OF THE LIBRARY, UM, THE BLUE DOG, THE JACK AND THE BEANSTALK VINE, THAT HAS BEEN RETURNED TO THE ARTIST. AND I BELIEVE HE'S REPURPOSING IT FOR ANOTHER LIBRARY. OKAY. THERE'S, UH, BUT THE HUMPTY DUMPTY WILL STAY THERE. YES. YES. IT, IT SHOULD HAVE A CRATE AROUND IT TO BE PROTECTED BY THE CONSTRUCTION. YEAH. I THINK THAT THAT KIND OF WORK IS OUR HISTORY. IT'S GONNA BE THERE FIVE, 600 YEARS . ANYWAY. NO, THANK YOU FOR ALL THIS HARD WORK AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THE TEAM. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I DO WANNA JUST BUILD ON, UH, BOTH COUNCILMAN HUTTER AND CORCORAN'S COMMENTS. I, I DO THINK THAT THERE'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY JUST TO MAKE SURE, UM, THAT IT'S DISTINCT IN AND IT HAS THAT DISTINCT FEELING TOO, RICHARDSON. AND SO WE'LL TAKE THAT AS HOMEWORK AND I THINK WE CAN, WE CAN ACCOMPLISH, WE CAN ACCOMPLISH BOTH MISSIONS. YEAH. PLEASE UNDERSTAND. OPPOSED, I JUST DIDN'T WANT SURE. YOU KNOW? YEAH. JUST WANTED TO BRING UP THE CONCERN. WE'LL DE YEAH, WE'LL DEFINITELY MAKE THE ARTIST AWARE WHAT AND THAT, YEAH. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GREAT PRESENTATION. NOW WE'LL OFFICIALLY GO TO NUMBER [8. REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE FY 2024-2025 PARK MAINTENANCE STRATEGIES] EIGHT AT THIS TIME. REVIEW AND DISCUSS FISCAL YEAR. FISCAL YEAR 20 24, 20 25 PARK MAINTENANCE STRATEGY. MR. MAGNER. THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNSEL. I KNOW, UM, THE GOOD NEWS IS WE HAVE TWO DEEP DIVES LEFT AND WE'RE GONNA ACCOMPLISH 'EM BOTH TONIGHT. UM, WE'LL TAKE, UH, JUST A COUPLE OF MORE WEEKS BEFORE OUR BUDGET WORKSHOP, BUT THESE ARE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. THESE ARE, UM, LARGE MAGNITUDE OF DOLLARS. UM, AND WHEN YOU TAKE THE TOTALITY OF OUR DEEP DIVES THAT ARE DEPLOYED EACH YEAR, AND WE REALLY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE A GOOD UNDERSTANDING. SO SEAN ROGERS IS GONNA RUN THROUGH OUR, UH, PARK MAINTENANCE PLAN, UM, GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON HOW WE'RE DOING THIS YEAR, AND THEN GIVE YOU AN OUTLOOK FOR NEXT YEAR. GREAT. THANK YOU, MR. MAGNER. MAYOR COUNCIL, REALLY APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, TO GET TO SPEAK TO YOU FOR A FEW MINUTES ABOUT OUR, UH, OUR MAINTENANCE STRATEGIES FOR THE PARK MAINTENANCE FUND FOR FOR FISCAL YEAR 25. UM, WHAT I'M GONNA GO OVER IS TALKING ABOUT THE STRATEGIC GOAL. LOOK AT THE, UH, SNAP SNAPSHOT OF THE PARKS MAINTENANCE DIVISION. UM, TELL YOU ABOUT OUR CAPITAL ASSET ASSESSMENT PROCESS THAT WE GO THROUGH EVERY YEAR. THAT'S WHAT INFORMS THESE DECISIONS WE MADE UPDATE YOU ON THE FISCAL YEAR 24 PROJECTS THAT ARE EITHER COMPLETED RUN CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW, AND THEN LOOK AHEAD TO THE FISCAL YEAR 25 PROJECTS THAT WE'D LIKE TO ACCOMPLISH THROUGH THE PARKS MAINTENANCE FUND. AND THIS REALLY FURTHERS YOUR, YOUR GOAL TO HAVE RESIDENTS ENGAGE, CHOOSE TO GIMME A SEC, TO HAVE RESIDENTS AND STAKEHOLDERS CHOOSE RICHARDSON AS THE BEST PLACE TO LOCATE, CONTRIBUTE, AND ENGAGE, AND TO WORK TO MAINTAIN A BALANCE BETWEEN RESPONSIBLE NEIGHBORHOOD INTEGRITY AND THE REGULATORY ENVIRONMENT. AND ALSO, AS YOU'LL SEE IN A FEW MINUTES, UH, THIS WILL FURTHER YOUR TACTIC TO EXPLORE OPTIONS TO EXPAND THE STREET MEDIAN AND MAINTENANCE ENHANCEMENT PROGRAM. SO, JUST A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE, THE PARKS MAINTENANCE DIVISION. UM, THAT'S THE LARGEST DIVISION, THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT, 48 EMPLOYEES. AND THIS IS JUST A BRIEF LOOK AT SOME OF THE THINGS THEY MAINTAIN. UM, 41 PARKS, 510 ACRES OF MEDIAN, RIGHT OF WAY 93 MILES OF TRAIL THROUGHOUT THE CITY. WE HAVE 33 PLAYGROUNDS NOW. 27 BRIDGES, 230 ACRES OF SPORTS FIELDS, 28 RESTROOM BUILDINGS, 32 PAVILIONS AND 13 PONDS AND WATER FEATURES. AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO THAT, UM, THAT MAYBE AREN'T SO OBVIOUS, UM, WE MANAGE A WILDFLOWER PLANNING PROGRAM. WE PUT UP AND TAKE DOWN STREET BANNERS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. WE MANAGE THE STREET SWEEPING PROGRAM THROUGHOUT THE CITY. UM, WE DO THE MATCHING FUND BEAUTIFICATION PROGRAM, WHICH A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND THE CITY HAVE BENEFITED FROM. WE TAKE CARE OF A LOT OF NATURAL AREAS IN THE CITY, LIKE SPRING CREEK AREA, THE WEST SIDE OF BRECKENRIDGE PARK. WE PROVIDE TONS OF SUPPORT FOR ALL THE COMMUNITY EVENTS LIKE WILDFLOWER, COTTONWOOD, HUFFINES, HARVEST FEST, SANTA'S VILLAGE. UH, WE HAVE A DEDICATION BENCH PROGRAM WHERE CITIZENS CAN DONATE BENCHES OR TREES BE PLACED IN PARKS. WE PUT UP A LOT OF HOLIDAY DECORATIONS AROUND TOWN AT CHRISTMAS TIME. AND WE ALSO MAINTAIN THE CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY [01:15:01] LANDSCAPE, WHICH EVERYBODY ALWAYS TELLS ME THEY DEFINITELY KNOW WHEN THEY'RE IN RICHARDSON BECAUSE YOU COME FROM DALLAS AND LOOK AT THE MEDIANS THERE, ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU RICHARDSON, THEY LOOK GREAT, AND THEN YOU CRASH ACROSS THE GEORGE BUSH AND PLANO. IT LOOKS BAD AGAIN. SO WE REALLY, REALLY STAND OUT FOR THE WAY WE TAKE CARE OF THOSE MEETINGS. I KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S IMPORTANT TO ALL OF US. SO, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, EVERY YEAR WE UNDERTAKE A CAPITAL ASSET ASSESSMENT, UM, IN WHICH WE SEND OUR CREWS OUT TO REALLY TAKE A HARD LOOK AT ALL OF OUR CAPITAL ASSETS IN PARKS. AND THAT'S ACROSS ALL OF OUR 39 PARKS. AND THIS REALLY IS FOCUSED ON CAPITAL ASSETS THAT ARE VALUED ABOVE $10,000 OR SO OR SO. UM, I'LL SHOW YOU WHAT THOSE ASSETS ARE IN A MOMENT, BUT WE SCORE THOSE ASSETS IN FIVE AREAS, SAFETY, AGE, STRUCTURAL SOUNDNESS, UTILITY AND APPEARANCE. AND EACH ONE OF THOSE IS ON A FIVE POINT SCALE. AND YOU CAN SEE THE WEIGHTING THERE THAT WE GIVE EACH OF THOSE CATEGORIES. AND THEN WE DISTILL ALL THAT DOWN, LIKE I SAID, IN THE FIVE POINTS. EXCELLENT, GOOD, AVERAGE, FAIR OR POOR. AND THEN THESE ARE ASSET CLASSES. WE LOOK AT THE SAME 12 EVERY YEAR. WE HAVE FOR THE LAST FIVE OR SIX YEARS. THE FIRST COUPLE YEARS OF THE PROGRAM, IT TOOK US A LITTLE BIT TO KINDA GET FOCUSED ON WHERE WE NEEDED TO LOOK AND THE THINGS WE NEEDED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE ASSESSING. BUT PAVILIONS, RESTROOMS, PLAYGROUNDS, TRAILS, PEDESTRIAN BRIDGES, TENNIS COURTS, IRRIGATION SYSTEMS, WATER FEATURES, SPORTS FIELDS, LIGHTING SYSTEMS, STORAGE BUILDINGS, AND MEDIAN LANDSCAPING. AND THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE ASSESSMENT FORM THAT, THAT THE CREWS USE. WE TRY TO GET THE SAME CREW MEMBERS EVERY YEAR TO ASSESS THE SAME ASSETS. SO THEY HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A SPAN ACROSS FROM, FROM YEAR TO YEAR. USUALLY, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE ASSESSING PLAYGROUNDS, IT'S THE CONSTRUCTION CREW WHO TAKES CARE OF THOSE PLAYGROUNDS DAY IN AND DAY OUT TO ASSESS IT. THE IRRIGATION CREW ASSESSES THE IRRIGATION SYSTEMS 'CAUSE THEY HAVE THE BEST, MOST ROBUST KNOWLEDGE ABOUT HOW THOSE SYSTEMS SHOULD WORK. BUT YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE CRITERIA THERE. IT'S DIFFERENT FOR EVERY ASSET CLASS TELLS 'EM QUARTER THE THINGS TO LOOK AT. AND THEN THEY'RE ABLE TO MAKE THAT ASSESSMENT BASED ON WHAT THEY SEE OUT IN THE FIELD. SO THE NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES ARE SUMMARIES OF, UH, THE ASSETS THAT WERE RATED, EITHER EXCELLENT OR GOOD. SO THAT'S A FOUR OR A FIVE ON THE FIVE POINT SCALE FOR EACH OF THE CATEGORIES. SO YOU SEE PLAYGROUNDS, 61% ARE EXCELLENT, 27% WERE GOOD RESTROOMS, 20% ARE EXCELLENT, 56% ARE GOOD. YOU KNOW, YOU CAN GO ACROSS THERE AND SEE KIND OF HOW THAT BREAKS OUT. AND THAT'S KIND OF OUR, OUR OUR BREAK EVEN POINT. WE WANT EVERYTHING TO BE EXCELLENT OR GOOD. YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE IN THAT RANGE, WE FEEL LIKE WE'RE DOING A PRETTY GOOD JOB. UH, IRRIGATION SYSTEMS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH 80% ARE EXCELLENT OR GOOD, IT'S ONLY 2% EXCELLENT. BUT THOSE ARE OF COURSE, VERY COMPLICATED SYSTEMS AND REALLY TAKES A LOT OF, OF TIME AND EFFORT AND KNOWLEDGE TO, TO BRING THOSE UP TO SPEED. WE'VE MADE GREAT PROGRESS ON THAT OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. THE NEXT SET FOR LIGHTING SYSTEMS, TENNIS COURTS, WATER FEATURES, STORAGE BUILDINGS, BRIDGES, AND MEDIAN LANDSCAPE, YOU KNOW, REALLY TELLS A STORY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT. AND YOU SEE THAT LAST ONE THERE, MEDIAN LANDSCAPE, 40% OF THE MEDIAN LANDSCAPE NODES THAT WE INSPECTED WERE RATED AS AS GOOD, NONE RELATED IS EXCELLENT. BUT THAT REALLY DOES TIE INTO THE TACTIC TO REALLY ENHANCE THAT PROGRAM. AND THIS SHOWS US THAT THE DATA AGREES WITH THAT TACTIC. THAT'S WHERE WE NEED TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF WORK. SO MOST OF THESE PROJECTS THAT WE DO ARE FUNDED FROM THE PARKS MAINTENANCE FUND. UH, AND THIS SHOWS YOU THE HISTORY SINCE 2020. UM, IT'S BEEN A STEADY RISE, UM, TO THAT QUARTER. SYNTHES DEDICATED TO PARKS MAINTENANCE, WE'RE COMING IN ABOUT EVEN THIS YEAR AS WE WERE LAST YEAR. BUT THAT'S, THAT'S PLENTY OF FUNDING TO DO A LOT OF GOOD. AND THEN TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON SOME OF OUR CURRENT PROJECTS, THE ONES THAT WERE FUNDED FOR FISCAL YEAR 24. UH, FIRST AND FOREMOST, THIS WAS ACTUALLY FUNDED IN FISCAL YEAR 22 AND, UH, AND TOOK US A LITTLE BIT EXTRA TIME TO DO. BUT IF YOU'VE SEEN THE NEW BRIDGE AT COTTONWOOD PARK, IT IS FANTASTIC AND REALLY, REALLY HAS IMPROVED THAT CROSSING ON THE SOUTH END OF THE, THE PARK THAT WAS COMPLETED JUST THIS YEAR, JUST IN TIME FOR THE MAY COTTONWOOD ART FESTIVAL. SO I WAS VERY HAPPY TO COME PARK DOWN SOUTH AND BRING MY FAMILY, SAY, HEY, LET ME SHOW YOU THIS BRIDGE WE BUILT. I'M REALLY, REALLY PROUD OF IT. UH, THAT WAS A TOTAL COST, ABOUT $441,000. UH, THE BRECKENRIDGE EROSION REPAIR. THIS IS A SINKHOLE THAT DEVELOPS BETWEEN ETTE CREEK AND THE EAST POND AT BRECKENRIDGE PARK RIGHT UNDER RENNER ROAD. YOU MAY REMEMBER ME HAVING MENTIONED THIS TO YOU, UM, IN YEARS PAST. IT TOOK US A WHILE TO GET THE ENGINEERING REALLY IN PLACE THAT WE MADE SURE WE'RE DOING THIS REPAIR THOROUGHLY AND COMPLETELY. AND OUR FRIENDS AND CAPITAL PROJECTS OF ENGINEERING AND ENGINEERING HAVE BEEN A GREAT HELP TO US IN LOOKING AT THAT, REALLY UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE PROBLEM WAS AND HOW TO FIX IT. THAT ACTUALLY WAS AWARDED LAST WEEK AT THE COUNCIL MEETING. AND SO WE EXPECT TO HAVE A CONTRACTOR COMING IN NEXT MONTH TO BEGIN CONSTRUCTION, TO FIX THE SINKHOLE, GET THE FILL TUBE REPAIRED, AND GET US BACK INTO SH IT SHOULD BE. AND THAT PROJECT'S GONNA COST ABOUT $399,000 COTTONWOOD PARK LIGHTING SYSTEM. THIS WAS TO REPLACE THE OLD TREE MOUNTED LIGHTS THAT WERE OVER, UM, IN THE AREA WHERE THE ART FESTIVAL IS ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE ROAD. UH, THOSE TREE LIGHTS WERE OLD. MANY OF 'EM WEREN'T WORKING. WE WANTED A NEW SOLUTION TO THAT. SO WE ACTUALLY CAME IN AND PUT IN POLE MOUNTED LIGHTS, UM, THAT WAS GONNA BE THE BEST SOLUTION FOR US. [01:20:01] I HATE THE IDEA OF NAILING ANYTHING TO A TREE ANYWAY. SO FOR ME, AS A TREE HUGGER, THIS WAS A, A PERFECT SOLUTION. AND THAT WAS JUST COMPLETED A COUPLE WEEKS AGO. UH, WE HAVE SOME VERY NICE BRIGHT LED LIGHTS, GONNA BE GREAT FOR PARK SAFETY, GREAT FOR, UH, THE FESTIVAL AS WELL. THAT WAS $89,471. WE ALSO DID SOME EXTENSIVE WORK ON OUR GREENHOUSE OVER AT HUFFINES PARK. UH, IT JUST NEEDED A LITTLE BIT OF A FACELIFT, SOME PAINT SOFFIT AND FACE REPAIR, SOME PLUMBING FIXTURES, UH, REPLACED. UH, WE HIRED A JOB, UH, JOB COST CONTRACTOR TO COME IN AND DO ALL OF THAT WORK FOR $59,000. YOU CAN SEE THE, UH, THE GREENHOUSE THERE, UH, WITH THAT NEW PAINT ON IT. AND IT'S A MUCH BETTER ENVIRONMENT FOR OUR EMPLOYEES TO WORK IN. THEY REPORT THERE EVERY DAY. THAT WAS $59,710. WE'RE STILL WORKING ON REPAIRING THE, UH, THE BRIDGE ABUTMENT AT MCKAMEY PARK, UM, MCBE SPRING PARK, GOING UP TO THAT BRIDGE THAT CROSSES THE FLOYD BRANCH, UM, ON THE WEST OR EAST SIDE OF THE PARK. UH, THIS WAS AN INTERESTING, UH, ENGINEERING PROJECT. ONCE AGAIN, WE RELIED ON OUR COLLEAGUES IN CAPITAL PROJECTS AND ENGINEERING TO KIND OF GIVE US SOME GUIDANCE AND ASSISTANCE IN REVIEWING PLANS, UH, DETERMINE THE BEST COURSE OF ACTION. WAS GONNA BE A HIRE CONSULTANT TO REALLY LOOK INTO THIS, DETERMINE WHAT THE PROBLEM WAS, WHY IT HAPPENED, AND HOW TO FIX IT. SO WE RECEIVED A HUNDRED PERCENT CD DOCUMENTS IN JUNE, AND THAT SHOULD BE GOING OUT FOR BID VERY, VERY SOON. UM, TO GET THAT REPAIRED, WE ANTICIPATE CONSTRUCTION STARTING IN SEPTEMBER TO REPAIR THAT. AND IF YOU REMEMBER THAT STONE VENEER WALL ON THE, THE RAMP THAT LEADS UP TO THE BRIDGE, UM, STARTED POPPING OFF. THERE WAS RUBBLE FILL UNDERNEATH THE TRAIL. UH, WE REALLY WANTED TO LOOK AT THAT, MAKE SURE THE OTHER SIDE WASN'T DOING THE SAME THING AND MAKE SURE WE HAD THE RIGHT FIX. AND WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD SOLUTION, UM, THAT'S GONNA LOOK REALLY NICE AND WE'RE REALLY HAPPY WITH. THAT'S GONNA BE ABOUT $255,000. UH, WE ALSO APPLIED A ROLL COAT TO THE SAFETY SURFACING AT THE COTTONWOOD PARK PLAYGROUND. UM, THIS IS BASICALLY JUST ANOTHER COAT OF THE GLUE THAT HOLDS, THAT POURED IN PLACE RUBBER SURFACING TOGETHER. THIS HAS BEEN A GREAT, GREAT PROGRAM TO DO THIS EVERY 18 TO 24 MONTHS. BASICALLY, THAT PROVIDES A WEAR COAT TO THAT RUBBER SAFETY SURFACING, SO THAT AS PEOPLE ARE WALKING ACROSS IT, AS KIDS ARE RUNNING ACROSS IT, IT'S NOT ACTUALLY GETTING DOWN INTO THE SAFETY SURFACING, IT'S JUST WEARING THAT THIN LAYER OF GLUE OFF. UH, THE CONTRACTOR WHO DOES THIS FOR US, THE SAME ONES WHO INSTALLED THE PLAYGROUND, SAID THAT THIS IS THE BEST LOOKING PORT IN PLACE. SAFETY SURFACING THEY'VE SEEN FOR AS OLD AS THE PLAYGROUND IS AFTER FIVE YEARS, BECAUSE WE'VE DONE THIS ON A REGULAR BASIS, WHICH IS WHAT THE MANUFACTURERS RECOMMEND. SO WE'RE TAKING CARE OF THIS INVESTMENT, WHICH IS GONNA PAY DIVIDENDS FOR, FOR YEARS TO COME. THAT WAS $33,000 TO HAVE THAT DONE. WE PUT UP FENCE AROUND IT, THE KEY PEOPLE OUT FOR ABOUT A WEEK. UM, BUT REALLY, REALLY A GOOD THING TO DO FOR PLAYGROUNDS THAT ARE MADE THAT WAY. UH, WE'RE ALSO DOING SOME IRRIGATION REPAIR AT PRAIRIE CREEK PARK AND ER, LINEAR PARK. UH, WE WANTED TO BUDGET THIS MONEY BECAUSE WE KNEW WE HAD PROJECTS COMING UP IN BOTH OF THOSE PARKS, UM, OR IN THE CASE OF PRAIRIE CREEK ALONG THE ROAD THERE. BUT THERE WAS SOME IMPACT TO THE PARK. SO WE'VE USED THESE, THIS FUNDING TO HELP GO THROUGH AND REALLY STEP UP THAT IRRIGATION SYSTEM, MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS BACK EXACTLY THE WAY THEY WANT IT, THE CONTRACTOR PUT IT BACK THE WAY THEY FOUND IT. WE WANTED TO, TO IMPROVE THAT. MAKE SURE THAT THE NEW SOD, THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT WERE GOING DOWN, WE'RE GONNA BE WATERED. WELL, AS YOU MAY KNOW, WE BUILT A NEW TRAIL BETWEEN, UH, COLLINS AND, UH, THE ARBOR CREST BRIDGE. SO THERE'S NEW SOD THERE. WE HAD TO MOVE SOME IRRIGATION AROUND TO ACCOMMODATE THAT TRAIL, BUT WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE REALLY DOING RIGHT BY, UH, BY PRAIRIE CREEK PARK, WHICH IS ONE OF OUR MOST POPULAR PARKS. LIKEWISE, AT RENTER LINEAR PARK, UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON A DRAINAGE PROJECT ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE TRAIL. WE'RE THE TRAIL OUR NEIGHBORS TO THE SOUTH. UH, WE'RE GONNA EXPAND THAT NEXT YEAR AND DO SOME WORK ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE TRAIL WHERE THERE ARE A LOT OF BERMS. WE'VE GOT SOME NICE GREAT MATURE TREES THERE THAT SHADE OUT THE TURF. SO WE GET RUNOFF ONTO THE, THE TRAIL SOMETIME DIRT AND MUD. SO WE'RE GONNA PUT A PIN IN THIS, UH, THIS FUNDING FOR THIS IRRIGATION SYSTEM. AND ONCE WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT LANDSCAPE IS GONNA LOOK LIKE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE TRAIL, WE'LL BE ABLE TO COME AND RENOVATE THAT IRRIGATION SYSTEM SO THAT WE'RE WATERING EXACTLY WHERE WE NEED TO BE. WE'RE NOT WATERING THE SIDEWALK, WE'RE NOT WATERING ROCK, BUT REALLY, UH, BE ABLE TO WATER PRECISELY AS WE SHOULD BE DOING. COMBINE THOSE PROJECTS WITH $30,000. AND THEN WE'RE ABOUT TO START AIR FRYING SOME SPORTS FIELDS AT HUFFINE PARK, LOOKOUT PARK AND HEIGHTS PARK. THESE ARE SOME OF OUR HIGHEST USED ATHLETIC FIELDS, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE IN THE CENTER OF TOWN. WE GET A LOT OF PLAY ON THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE NECESSARILY RESERVED THEM, BUT ARE JUST COMING OUT TO PLAY A PICKUP GAME, UH, WHICH IS WHAT THEY'RE THERE FOR. BUT WE REALLY NEED TO GIVE 'EM THAT EXTRA CARE TO AERATE, LET MORE AIR AND WATER DOWN INTO THE ROOT ZONE. UM, OUR STAFF ARE GONNA DO THAT WORK THEMSELVES 'CAUSE WE HAVE THE EQUIPMENT, BUT THE $15,000 THAT WAS FUNDED THERE, WE'LL BE USING TO BUY FERTILIZER, SOIL AMENDMENTS AND TOP DRESSING SO WE CAN GET THOSE FIELDS BACK NICE AND SMOOTH, GET A LOT OF MORE ORGANIC MATERIAL DOWN THERE IN THE ROOT ZONE. SO HOPEFULLY THEY'RE GROWING A LOT MORE VIGOROUSLY, UM, IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS. AND THEN WE'RE ALSO WORKING ON THE EAST CAMPBELL ROAD MEDIAN. THAT'S ANOTHER SITUATION LIKE I MENTIONED AT, AT RENER, LINEAR, LINEAR EARLIER, WHERE WE HAVE THESE MATURE TREES THAT ARE SHADING OUT THE TURF AND WE GET RUN OFF INTO THE ROAD WHEN IT RAINS. UH, WE, WE'VE JUST BID THAT OUT. WE'RE GETTING QUOTES BACK THIS WEEK FROM A, UH, AN ANNUAL CONTRACTOR, UH, TO PUT IN A ROCK AND [01:25:01] MOS TREATMENT LIKE WE DID ON WEST WINTER ROAD. AND WE'VE DONE IN LOTS OF PLACES AROUND TOWN, WHICH HAS REALLY BEEN SUCCESSFUL FOR US IN BUILDING LANDSCAPES THAT ARE NOT ONLY PLEASING WITH THE EYE, BUT THEY HAVE A CONSISTENCY. THE THING I LOVE ABOUT ROCK IS IT LOOKS THE SAME IN JANUARY AS IT DOES IN AUGUST. WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT WATERING IT, BUT IT STILL PROVIDES THAT, THAT VISUAL INTEREST. AND IT REALLY IS A HIGH END LOOK THAT I THINK, UH, WORKS REALLY, REALLY WELL. AND RICHARDSON AND RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN VERY, VERY, UM, PLEASED ABOUT THAT. AND WE'RE GONNA SPEND ABOUT $125,000 THERE TO, TO DO AS MANY OF THOSE MEDIUMS KIND OF BETWEEN CENTRAL AND, UH, GLENVILLE AS WE CAN. AND THEN OUR WORK PLAN FOR NEXT YEAR IS BASED, UH, DIRECTLY ON, UH, THE ASSET ASSESSMENT THAT I TOLD YOU ABOUT A FEW MINUTES EARLIER. SO THESE ARE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING FOR FUNDING, UH, WITH THAT $599,000, UM, IN THE PARK MAINTENANCE FUND FOR NEXT YEAR. UM, POINT NORTH PARK IS GONNA BE IN THE FIRST TWO OF THESE. UH, THIS IS A PARK WE WANT TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF EXTRA LOVE TO, UM, ESPECIALLY AFTER THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, COMING OUT OF THE A 25 PRESSURE ZONE PROJECT, WHICH HAS KIND OF MADE THINGS, THINGS, UM, A LITTLE BIT HECTIC OVER THERE. BUT RENOVATING THAT BASEBALL FIELD IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE WANTED TO DO FOR, FOR QUITE A WHILE. YOU KNOW, THAT'S A GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD BASEBALL FIELD. UM, WE SEE A LOT OF PICKUP GAMES THERE, BUT IT'S NEVER PROGRAMMED. WE DON'T HAVE A LEAGUE PLAY THERE, SO WE'RE GOING TO SOB THAT INFIELD RE IRRIGATE, MAKE SURE IT'S GREAT TO THE OUTRIGHT. SO THAT'S GONNA MAKE THE MAINTENANCE REQUIREMENT A LOT LESS FOR OUR GUYS. IT WON'T HAVE TO BE DRAGGED, BUT STILL PERFECTLY USEFUL FOR PEOPLE. YOU WANNA JUST COME OUT, HIT A BALL WITH THE KIDS OR HAVE A PICKUP GAME. UM, ON THAT, THAT BASEBALL DIAMOND WE PROPOSED SENDING ABOUT $44,442 ON THAT BETWEEN SOD GRADING, UM, IN THE IRRIGATION WORK. WE ALSO WANNA PUT IN SOME NEW SECURITY LIGHTING AT, UH, AT POINT NORTH PARK. UM, JUST TO MAKE SURE YOU KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT WHOLE AREA IS CHANGING. WE HAVE THE SILVER LINE COMING THROUGH. UM, UTD KEEPS, YOU KNOW, USING THAT PARK A LOT. WE JUST HAVE A LOT OF ACTIVITY THERE. WE WANNA MAKE SURE, ESPECIALLY SINCE THINGS HAVE CHANGED WITH THE NEW, UM, WATER TANK THAT WE'RE PROVIDING A SAFE OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR NEIGHBORS TO, UH, TO PLAY THERE. SO WE'RE SPEND ABOUT $20,000 TO DO SOLAR SECURITY LIGHTING IN THE PARK, JUST TO SPRUCE THAT ASPECT OF IT UP A LITTLE BIT AS WELL. WE ALSO NOW HAVE A SECOND PLAYGROUND THAT HAS PORTED IN PER PORTED IN PLACE SAFETY SURFACING. AND THAT'S THE BRAND NEW PLAYGROUND OUT NEAR KEFLER FIELDS AT, AT BRECKENRIDGE PARK. SO WE WANNA GET THAT ON THE SAME ROTATION. WE HAVE THE, AN EISMAN INCLUSIVE PLAYGROUND AT, UH, AT COTTONWOOD PARK. AND SO SWITCH OFF AT LEAST EVERY OTHER YEAR DOING THAT ROLL CODE. IT'S BASICALLY THE SAME PROCESS, PUTTING THE BINDER ON TO PROVIDE AN EXTRA WEAR LAYER SO THAT IT DOESN'T BREAK DOWN AS AS MUCH. AND WE THINK THAT'S GONNA COST ABOUT $35,000. UM, ALSO OUR ASSET ASSESSMENT INDICATED THAT THE FENCE OF THE YALE PARK TENNIS COURT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED. UM, THIS IS A, A PROBLEM WITH TENNIS COURTS ALL ACROSS THE UNITED STATES. UM, YOU SEE A LOT OF BALLS, A LOT OF STUFF BANGING AGAINST THOSE FENCES, AND EVENTUALLY THAT CHAIN LINK FABRIC JUST GETS BENT OUTTA SHAPE AND EVENTUALLY YOU'LL START SEEING A GAP AT THE BOTTOM. YOU MAY HAVE NOTICED THAT ON, UH, ON BASEBALL BACKSTOPS AS WELL. THAT LIP CURLS UP AND THEN YOU CAN GET BALLS ESCAPE OUTTA THERE. SO WE PROPOSED TO REPLACE THE FENCE THERE FOR ABOUT $45,000 AT YALE PARK. AND, AND JUST TO NOTE, UM, RESURFACING THE COURT, IT WAS ACTUALLY HANDLED THROUGH OUR RECREATION DIVISION. THEY HAVE A, ABOUT A FIVE YEAR ROTATION. AND YALE PARK WAS, UH, WAS PROPOSED IN THE BUDGET TO BE RESURFACING FISCAL YEAR 25 THROUGH THAT PROGRAM AS WELL. SO WE TAKE CARE OF THE NETS, THE FAN, THE LIGHTS, STUFF LIKE THAT. BUT OUR, OUR FRIENDS AND RECREATION ACTUALLY DO THE RESURFACING OF THE COURTS. UM, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, RENT LINEAR PARK, UH, DOING RENOVATIONS FOR THOSE BERMS. THAT'S ABOUT $145,000 FOR THE FIRST PHASE OF, OF THAT PROJECT. UM, ADDING RIVER ROCK AND MULCH THOSE BERMS. SO WE DON'T SEE THAT EROSION DOWN ONTO THE TRAIL. AND IT WILL PRESENT A SIMILAR APPEARANCE TO THE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT MEDIANS ON RENNER ROAD. AND THEN, UH, GOING BACK TOWARD THE TACTIC TO ENHANCE OUR MEDIAN LANDSCAPE, UH, THERE ARE TWO THAT WE'D LIKE TO WORK ON THIS YEAR. ONE IS EAST SPRING VALLEY. THIS IS GONNA BE BE BETWEEN, UM, ABOUT ELIA GOING EAST TOWARD TOWARD PLANO ROAD, UM, TO SPRUCE UP THOSE MEDIANS, DO A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT TREATMENT. YOU CAN SEE THERE IN THAT PICTURE THAT THOSE, UH, THOSE TREES IN A VERY NARROW KIND OF BED BETWEEN THOSE MOOSE TRIPS. WE'VE HAD GREAT SUCCESS TAKING THOSE OUT, MOVING 'EM OUT A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO THE CURB AND THEN FILLING THAT WITH ROCK BETWEEN THE CURB AND THE NEW MOOSE TRIP. AND THEN PLANTING ASIAN JASMINE OR SOME OF THOSE SORT OF GROUND COVER, UM, BETWEEN THE TREES. AND THEN, UH, WE OFTEN WILL DO LIKE A, A FLAGSTONE TREATMENT ON EITHER END OF THAT. AND YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN THOSE AROUND TOWN AS WELL. AND THE OTHER ONE THAT THE ASSET ASSESSMENT REVEALED WAS, UH, WAS WORTHY OF SOME ATTENTION IS WEST BELTLINE. UM, WE HAVEN'T CHOSEN EXACTLY WHERE WE WANT TO WORK ON THAT, BUT WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING THE MOST BANG FOR OUR BUCK, UM, AND DOING THE, THE MEDIAN LANDSCAPING THAT CAN BENEFIT THE MOST FROM THIS INFUSION OF, OF, OF A NEW LOOK. UH, THIS IS RIGHT AROUND, UM, HYDE PARK, I THINK ON, ON BELTLINE, UM, IN THAT AREA. BUT ONCE AGAIN, YOU'LL SEE THOSE CREPE MYRTLES A REALLY NARROW BED FROM THOSE MOST TRIPS, THE OLD IMPRINTED BRICK, UH, WHICH IS JUST A LOOK THAT THAT ISN'T WORKING AS WELL FOR US ANYMORE. THE ROCK, THE MULCH, THE FLAGSTONE ARE REALLY THE DIRECTION WE'VE BEEN GOING THAT HAS BEEN WELL [01:30:01] RECEIVED. AND THAT'S ABOUT ANOTHER $155,000. AND THIS GIVES YOU AN EXAMPLE, KIND OF SOME OF THE, THE MEDIANS THAT WE'VE DONE WITH THE RIVER ROCK. UM, YOU CAN SEE THE ONE ON THE LEFT THERE, I BELIEVE THAT'S ON LOOKOUT OVER IN THE CANYON CREEK NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, ROCK ON THE EDGES, GROUND COVER IN THE MIDDLE, AND THAT FLAGS IN ON THE END. IT, IT'S A REALLY, REALLY NICE LOOK. AND IT GIVES THOSE TREES A LITTLE BIT EXTRA ROOM TO BREATHE. ANOTHER GREAT THING ABOUT THAT, THAT LANDSCAPE ROCK IS IT'S A PERVIOUS SURFACE, SO WHEN IT RAINS, WE GET RAINWATER DOWN BELOW THAT AS WELL. SO THOSE ROOT ZONES REALLY HAVE, HAVE ROOM TO GET OUT AND EXPLORE AND MAKE THOSE TREES VERY, VERY HEALTHY. SO HERE'S A SUMMARY OF THE, THE WORK PLAN FOR FISCAL YEAR 25. YOU CAN SEE ALL THE PROJECTS THAT I, I MENTIONED JUST NOW. UM, AND IF WE WANNA LOOK AT A MAP, THIS IS KIND OF HOW THEY'RE SPREAD OUT THROUGHOUT TOWN. AND THAT WAS ALL I HAD TO SAY, BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE THEM. SEAN, GREAT PRESENTATION. MR. DORIAN. THANK YOU MAYOR SEAN. THANK YOU. SURE. THAT, UH, WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION. I JUST WANNA SAY WOW, AND I'LL KEEP IT SHORT. I WILL SAY THAT, UH, I, THE THING I LIKE THAT, UH, THE DEPARTMENT IS DOING IS THEY'RE HANDLING MAINTENANCE. AND I AGREE THAT DOING THINGS ON A SHORTER TIME TIMELINE ALLOWS MAINTENANCE AND DOESN'T, UH, DOESN'T HOPEFULLY PROVIDE ANYTHING THAT WE HAVE TO SPEND QUITE A BIT OF FUNDING ON. SO I LIKE THE YARDS BEING PROACTIVE TO INITIATE THE, THE, THE, THE UPKEEP. NOT SAYING WE ALWAYS PRACTICE THAT IN EVERY SCENARIO, INCLUDING PERSONALLY, BUT IT'S ALWAYS A GOOD WAY TO, TO, UH, TO KEEP THINGS RUNNING. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU MR. CHU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. UH, THANK YOU SEAN FOR, YOU KNOW, GREAT PRESENTATION. VERY GOOD PLANNING, UH, AND ABSOLUTELY WITH LIMITED BUDGET, IT'S DIFFICULT TO DO ALL THE DREAM WORK, BUT, UH, BUT WORK HAS BEEN DONE IS REALLY GREAT. UH, YOU KNOW, MOVING FORWARD, EVERYONE, EVERYONE IS LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, WALKABLE CITY. UH, WHEN YOU WALK, YOU CAN'T REALLY WALK WITH THE HEAT. UH, YOU NEED SOME KIND OF SHED. UH, AND, UH, THAT INCLUDES NOT JUST THE WALKWAY TO BE SHED, THE PAVEMENT NEED TO BE SHED SOME DEGREE. I DON'T KNOW HOW, BUT, UH, I DON'T HAVE SOLUTION, BUT, WELL, SOMEBODY HAVE TO THINK ABOUT ALL THIS BECAUSE HEAT RISES FROM EVERYWHERE. SO, UH, THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO TODAY. IT IS GONNA HELP US PROBABLY IN 10 YEARS, 15 YEARS, NOT IMMEDIATELY, BUT WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING, UH, YOU KNOW, LITTLE MORE LONG TERM. UH, SOME OF THE OTHER AREAS, UH, AND SOME OF THE AREA THAT WE DON'T HAVE LANDSCAPING. UH, SOME CITIES, ESPECIALLY IF YOU LOOK, UM, MAYBE CENTENNIAL AND OTHER THINGS, UH, WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE BIG BUDGET. SOMETIMES JUST MINOR LANDSCAPING WILL CHANGE THE FACE SOMETIMES. BUT OVERALL, I MEAN, IT'S REALLY LOTS OF WORK. I MEAN, UH, YOU GUYS ARE DOING, DOING GREAT JOB. I LOVE IT. UH, BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, IF WE GET SATISFIED SOMETIMES WE NEVER REALLY, UH, DO SOMETHING FOR THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, LONG TERM. RIGHT. SO, BUT SHORT TERM, EVERYTHING IS GREAT, WONDERFUL. EVEN LONG TERM. SOME PLACES, YES. UH, TREES SOMETIMES IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT FRIENDLY TO THE PAVEMENT. SO EDUCATING THE NEIGHBOR, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTS WHERE TO PLANT THE TREE. IF YOU PLANT TOO CLOSE TO THE OTHER SIDE, YOU KNOW, TOWARDS THE CAR, UH, I PERSONALLY DON'T LIKE YOU NEED TO PUT IT OTHER SIDE OF THE SIDEWALK, UH, TOWARDS THE PROPERTY LINE. THAT WAY YOU'RE NOT REALLY DAMAGING THE STREET LONG TERM. UH, UH, SO I, I'M SURE YOU GUYS ARE DOING SOME OF THE EDUCATING, THE, UH, WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT IN THE PAST. THIS IS PROBABLY ALREADY GOING ON. DEFINITELY. I BELIEVE THAT. RIGHT, RIGHT. EVERY CHANGE I GET. YEAH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MR. BARRIOS. THANK YOU MAYOR SEAN, GREAT JOB. UH, THANK YOU FOR, UH, ALL THE PROJECTS YOU ALL DID DO SUCCESSFULLY THIS PAST YEAR. I LOOK FORWARD TO THESE OTHER ONES IN THE COMING YEAR. UM, THE BRIDGE, UH, THE NEW BRIDGE OVER COTTONWOOD PARK AND THE NEW LIGHTS, THEY LOOK AMAZING. UM, THEY, THEY, IF NOBODY, IF Y'ALL HAVEN'T SEEN THE NEW LIGHTS OVER COTTONWOOD PARK, YOU SHOULD DRIVE BY IT. AND I, IT LOOKS, THEY LOOK ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL. THEY REALLY DO. UH, SO GREAT JOB ON THAT. YOU MENTIONED ON ONE OF THE PARKS, UH, I FORGET WHICH ONE IT IS THAT'S GETTING THE LIGHTS THIS COMING YEAR, UH, THAT THERE WILL BE SOLAR POWERED. MM-HMM. ARE THE ONES THAT COTTONWOOD SOLAR POWERED. ARE THOSE SITE SPECIFIC DUE TO TREES? LIKE WHAT DEFINES THAT? ARE WE KIND OF MOVING TOWARDS THAT? IS IT A COST BARRIER? WHAT CAN YOU KIND TALK ABOUT? SO ANY, ANYTIME WE CAN USE SOLAR, IT'S SOMETHING WE WANT TO LOOK, LOOK INTO. UM, THE ONES AT COTTONWOOD, WE COULDN'T DO SOLAR JUST BECAUSE THEY WERE, THOSE AREAS WERE IN THERE WHERE THE, THE TREES ARE. GOTCHA. YOU KNOW, WE WERE KINDA REPLACING THOSE, THOSE TREE MOUNTED LIGHTS. SO TO GET THEM SPACE [01:35:01] THE WAY WE WANTED THEM TO BE, UM, IT JUST, IT WASN'T CONDUCIVE TO USING SOLAR. SO THO THOSE ARE NOT, BUT THAT'S ALWAYS WHAT WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT FIRST, UM, WHEN WE CAN. YEAH. EXCELLENT. AS FAR AS COSTS THAT THEY SIMILAR OR, UM, YOU KNOW, SOLAR ACTUALLY CAN BE CHEAPER SOMETIMES DEPENDING ON WHAT SORT OF SYSTEM YOU, YOU GO WITH. UM, THERE'S SOME DIRECT BURIAL, UH, PRODUCTS THAT ARE, ARE PRETTY INEXPENSIVE. UH, WE HAVEN'T USED A LOT OF THOSE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE SEEN SALES PRESENTATIONS, UM, SO WE'RE NOT SURE ABOUT THE LONGEVITY OF REALLY HOW, YOU KNOW, HOW WELL THEY WORK. SO WE'RE GONNA DO SOME MORE INVESTIGATING INTO THAT AND THEN MAKE SURE WE'VE DONE OUR RESEARCH. BUT, UM, THEY, THEY CAN BE HAD FAIRLY, FAIRLY CHEAPLY. I WAS JUST CURIOUS. THANK YOU SO MUCH, SEAN. UH, YOU KNOW, I, I'VE, THERE'S NO SECRET. I'M A BIG FAN OF PARKS AND IT'S, UH, I'M THE REASON I LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I DO, IT'S A REASON WHEN I KNOW YEARS AGO, IT WAS DEFINITELY ONE OF THE BIGGEST REASONS WE STAYED IN RICHEST, WHERE WE'RE LOOKING UP GREAT HOUSES AND QUESTION WHETHER WE WERE GONNA REMAIN IN RICHARDSON YEARS AGO. UM, AND, UH, IT, IT'S WHAT KEPT US HERE. AND, UH, EVERYBODY LOVES WHAT Y'ALL DO IN PARKS AND WHAT Y'ALL CONTINUE TO DO WITH THE BUDGET. I MEAN, WE COULD EASILY SIT HERE AND NAME 20 PROJECTS WE'D LOVE TO HAVE DONE, AND I'M SURE YOU ALREADY HAVE THOSE ON YOUR, IT MEMORIZED WHAT, WHAT YOU WOULD IF YOU HAD UNLIMITED BUDGET. BUT WHAT YOU GUYS DO, UH, CONTINUES TO AMAZE US AND BRING SO MUCH VALUE TO OUR COMMUNITY. SO THANK YOU ON MY BEHALF. AND I KNOW A LOT OF MY, UH, A LOT OF MY CONSTITUENTS AND NEIGHBORS AND, UH, MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, COUNSEL. GREAT PRESENTATION. SEAN, WE APPRECIATE YOU. THANK YOU. THIS TIME WE'RE [9. REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE FY 2024-2025 FACILITIES SERVICES MAINTENANCE STRATEGIES] GONNA GO TO ITEM NUMBER NINE, REVIEW AND DISCUSS FISCAL YEAR 24 DASH 2025 FACILITY SERVICES, MAINTENANCE AND STRATEGIES. MR. MAGNER. WELL, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, WE'RE VERY PLEASED TONIGHT TO HAVE WAYNE CORRUM, OUR, UH, DIRECTOR OF, UH, FACILITIES AND FLEET, THE CITY'S FIRST DIRECTOR OF FACILITIES IN FLEET. UM, IT WAS MY, UH, PLEASURE LAST YEAR, UH, THROUGH THE BUDGET DEVELOPMENT PROJECT TO CREATE THIS DEPARTMENT. UM, THERE'S NOT AN EMPLOYEE THAT COMES TO WORK, UH, ON ANY DAY THAT ISN'T IMPACTED BY FACILITIES OR FLEET. AND, UH, TWO INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT FUNCTIONS. AND OUR CITY, UH, WAYNE'S GONNA PREDOMINANTLY, UH, FOCUS ON FACILITIES TONIGHT. WE'LL COVER FLEET AS PART OF OUR, UH, BUDGET WORKSHOP LIKE WE NORMALLY DO. WE'LL COVER A LITTLE BIT MORE DEPTH, BUT, UM, WAYNE, UM, APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE TO PREPARE FOR TONIGHT, AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. IT'S MY PLEASURE TO BE HERE THIS EVENING FOR THE FIRST TIME AND HOPEFULLY FOR MANY TIMES MOVING FORWARD. SO, UH, MY NAME'S WAYNE CORRUM, DIRECTOR OF FACILITIES AND FLEET FOR THE CITY OF RICHARDSON. UH, TONIGHT'S PRESENTATION WILL PROVIDE A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE NEW CITY DEPARTMENT WITH A SPECIFIC FOCUS AS MR. MAGNER SAID ON FACILITY SERVICES. UH, THAT'LL INCLUDE AN UPDATE ON THE PROGRESS OF PRO PROJECTS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE GOING, AND THEN ALSO OUR PROJECT PLAN FOR FISCAL YEAR 25. SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU SAW IN THE PARKS PRESENTATION. UM, FIRST OF ALL, THE NEW DEPARTMENT WAS FORMED AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS FISCAL YEAR, UH, IN SEPTEMBER, OR, AND, UH, THAT DEPARTMENT HAS, UH, THE FOLLOWING DEMOGRAPHICS ON THE SCREEN IS BASICALLY CAME FROM TWO CITY DEPARTMENTS THAT ALREADY EXISTED. THE FLEET DIVISION CAME OUT OF THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT. THE, UH, FACILITIES DIVISION CAME OUT OF THE ENGINEERING CAPITAL PROJECTS DEPARTMENT. SO THIS DEMOGRAPHIC SHOWS, UH, SOME OF OUR DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION AND THEN ALSO AN ORG CHART TO GIVE YOU KIND OF AN OVERVIEW OF HOW THE DEPARTMENT'S STRUCTURED WITH THE 60 STAFF MEMBERS THAT WE HAVE TODAY. SO WE'RE GONNA FOCUS ON THE FACILITIES DIVISION AT THIS TIME. UM, THIS DIVISION HAS A NUMBER OF CHALLENGES THAT WE DEAL WITH EVERY DAY. PRIMARY CHALLENGE THAT WE HAVE IS THE RECRUITMENT AND TRAINING OF, UH, A LIMITED SKILLED WORKFORCE OUT THERE. SO THAT'S A CHALLENGE THAT WE WORK FORWARD TO EVERY DAY. A SECOND, THERE'S THE RISING COST AND, UH, OF UNIT COST OF SERVICES THAT ARE PROVIDED. WE'RE GONNA GET INTO THAT IN DETAIL IN ONE SLIDE MOVING FORWARD. AND THE THIRD CHALLENGE IS THE COMPLEXITY OF THE NEW SYSTEMS THAT ARE BEING BUILT FOR FACILITIES, WHETHER THAT'S HVAC OR PLUMBING OR THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO WE'LL LOOK AT THAT. AND THEN ALSO THE TRAINING THAT'S REQUIRED BY OUR STAFF TO KEEP UP WITH THAT. UH, FOURTHLY, UH, INTERNALLY, ONE OF THE THINGS I HEARD FROM MANY OF THE CUSTOMER DEPARTMENTS WAS JUST COMMUNICATION. SO WE'RE WORKING ON BETTER COMMUNICATION WITH OUR CUSTOMER DEPARTMENTS. YOU KNOW, THEY LIVE AND WORK IN THOSE FACILITIES AND THEY NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE DOING TO HELP SUPPORT THEM. AND THEN FINALLY, OUR CURRENT SYSTEMS, UH, HAVE LIMITED CAPACITIES. SO WE'RE LOOKING INTO NEW SYSTEMS THAT'LL HELP US MANAGE THE OPERATIONS BETTER. SO THERE ARE THREE FUNDING SOURCES FOR THE DEPARTMENT. AND THE FIRST ONE BEING, UH, THE FACILITIES GENERAL FUND BUDGET. UH, THIS IS WHERE MOST PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE, MOST GENERAL REPAIRS THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH EACH AND EVERY DAY. AND THEN, UH, SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT WILL BE OUTLINED IN FUTURE SLIDES. SO THE GENERAL FUND PART OF THE BUDGET IS THE ONLY PART OF THE FUND THAT CUSTODIAL SERVICES USES. AND THEN THE FACILITIES MAINTENANCE USES MULTIPLE OTHERS. [01:40:01] SO SECOND PART OF THE FUND IS THE FACILITY MAINTENANCE FUND THAT WE'LL GO INTO IN MORE DETAIL IN A FEW SLIDES. AND THIS FUND ALLOWS FOR THE PLANNING OF MAJOR REPAIRS THAT GENERALLY SPAN MULTIPLE YEARS. AND THEN FINALLY, FROM TIME TO TIME, THERE ARE OTHER FUNDS THAT WILL BE USED FOR SPECIAL INITIATIVES. THERE'S CITYWIDE, LIKE A GENERATOR MASTER PLAN. SO LET'S TAKE A BRIEF LOOK AT THE CUSTODIAL SERVICES BUDGET. UH, YOU'LL NOTE THAT IN CONTRACTUAL SERVICES, THEY'VE GONE DOWN AND THEN BACK UP. SO ONE THING THAT HAPPENED WITH THE FIRE AT CITY HALL WAS A PORTION OF THE CUSTODIAL STAFF THAT WAS DEDICATED TO THE CIVIC CENTER COULD BE REALLOCATED. SO WE BROUGHT THEM TO SERVICE THE LIBRARY AND TOOK THAT AWAY FROM OUR OUTSOURCE CONTRACT TO REALIZE SOME SAVINGS IN THE INTERIM. BUT WE HAD TO REBID THAT CONTRACT LAST YEAR, AND THE UNIT COST OF THAT ROSE SIGNIFICANTLY AND CAUSED US TO HAVE A 3% INCREASE INTO THIS BUDGET YEAR. SO IN THE PREVIOUS SLIDES, I MENTIONED SOME OF THE CHALLENGES AND MENTIONED THE RISING COST OF OUTSOURCED SERVICES. UH, THIS SLIDE REPRESENTS A THREE YEAR SNAPSHOT OF SERVICE CALLS. AND THAT HISTORICAL DATA WAS USED, UH, BASED UPON SERVICE CALLED BY TYPE. AND WE CAN SEE IN THAT SYSTEM THAT THERE'S THE RISING COST OF THOSE INDIVIDUAL SERVICES. SOME EXAMPLES OF THAT IN AIR CONDITIONING. UH, WE'VE SEEN A 7.5% INCREASE IN THE COST OF COMPRESSORS AND A 3% INCREASE IN THE LABOR TO INSTALL THOSE COMPRESSORS THAT JUST THIS PAST YEAR. ALSO, WE'RE GONNA REALIZE SOME NEW CHARGES AND EXPENSES DUE TO, UH, REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS ON REFRIGERANTS NEXT YEAR. ANOTHER EXAMPLE IS PLUMBING. UH, WE SAW A REPAIR THAT WE HAD DONE FOR $24,000 LAST YEAR WOULD'VE COST US $29,500 THIS YEAR, OR A 23% INCREASE. THEN NOW A LOOK AT THE FACILITY MAINTENANCE BUDGET YEAR OVER YEAR. SO MOST OF THE COMPLIANCE AND REGULATORY, UH, ITEMS ARE DONE THROUGH CONTRACTUAL RELATIONSHIPS. WE'LL DO SOME OF THOSE THINGS IN HOUSE, UH, WHETHER THAT'S FILTERS ON HVAC SYSTEMS OR THINGS OF THAT NATURE. OR WE MAY DO SOME THAT ARE OUTSOURCED WITH THAT ARE REQUIRED TO BE OUTSOURCED, LIKE, UH, PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE ON ELEVATOR SYSTEMS. UM, SO FINALLY WE MANAGE FACILITIES, MANAGES THOSE PROJECTS, UM, ON THOSE SYSTEMS ON A DAILY BASIS. AND THEN ALSO WITH SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT'LL BE OUTLINED ON THE FOLLOWING SLIDES. BUT, UH, MOST OF OUR OUTSOURCED WORK THAT'S SPECIALIZED ON HVAC, PLUMBING AND ELECTRICAL HAS TO BE DONE BY THOSE SPECIALISTS. SO NEXT WE'LL LOOK AT SOME OF THE FACILITIES, PROJECTS THAT ARE OUT THERE, AND, UM, THE REMAINING SLIDES WILL WE'LL LOOK AT IN PAIRS. SO THERE'LL BE THREE DIFFERENT STATUSES. WE'LL LOOK AT COMPLETED PROJECTS. SECONDLY, WE'LL LOOK AT PROJECTS THAT ARE IN PROGRESS. AND THIRD, WE'LL LOOK AT PROJECTS THAT ARE FUTURE LOOKING. SO, UM, AND THEN WE'LL PAIR THOSE SLIDES WITH A LIST ON THE FIRST SLIDE AND THE SECOND SLIDE, I'LL HIGHLIGHT THREE OF THE PROJECTS FROM THE PREVIOUS LIST. MOST OF THESE ARE FUNDED BY GENERAL FUND, BUT IF THEY'RE A DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCE, YOU'LL SEE THAT NOTED ON THE SLIDE. SO THREE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE HERE, UH, THAT ARE ALREADY COMPLETED AT THE FIRE TRAINING CENTER. THE HOT WATER HEATER WENT OUT EARLIER THIS YEAR WITH A LEAK. WE HAD TO DO A REPLACEMENT ON THAT AT THE RICHARDSON WOMEN'S CENTER. THE DECK AREA WAS GETTING UNSAFE, UH, WITH PLANKS THAT WERE LOOSE RAILINGS THAT BECAME LOOSE. SO WE DID SOME REPAIRS THERE, BUT IN NEW PLANKING, REPAINTED THAT SURFACE MADE IT SAFE FOR THE FOLKS THAT WERE ATTENDING THAT LOCATION. AND THEN FINALLY, A LARGE WORK AT THE POLICE DETENTION CENTER WHERE WE HAD A MASTER CONTROL OF ROOM HVAC UPGRADE, REPLACING THAT SYSTEM WITH A SPLIT SYSTEM TO BETTER CONTROL AND MANAGE THE, THE HEATING AND AIR CONDITIONING OF THAT FACILITY. SO ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WE'VE HAD THIS YEAR WITH SOME OF THE PROJECTS IS HAVING UNSCHEDULED WORK THAT WE HAVE TO DO. JUST A MONTH AGO DURING THE STORMS, WE SAW A MAJOR LIGHTNING STRIKE THAT STRUCK THE FIRE TRAINING CENTER, KNOCKED OUT THE HVAC SYSTEM FOR THE ENTIRE FACILITY, WHICH ALSO INCLUDES THE BACKUP DATA CENTER FOR THE CITY. SO THAT WAS A MAJOR PROJECT THAT WE HAD TO DIVERT OUR RESOURCES TO. ALSO, WE HAD A WATER HEATER THAT WENT OUT AT MUNICIPAL COURTS, SO WE HAD TO DO A MAJOR CHANGE AND IN THAT SYSTEM. BUT WITH ALL THAT, WE'RE STILL TRYING TO STAY ON SCHEDULE WITH THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE GOING. THE NINE PROJECTS THAT REMAIN IN PROGRESS, UH, WILL GIVE YOU, UH, YOU'LL SEE A STATUS COLUMN THERE. AND JUST TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF DEFINITION OF THAT, THE PROGRAMMING PIECE IS WHERE WE'RE GATHERING INFORMATION AND GETTING QUOTES ON THE WORK TO BE DONE. PROGRAMMED MEANS THAT'S COMPLETED, BUT THE WORK HAS NOT BEGUN YET. AND THEN WORK IN PROGRESS, WIP IS WHERE WE HAVE AN ONGOING PROJECT THAT'S MOVING FORWARD. SO THREE, UH, ITEMS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN, IN PROGRESS [01:45:01] RIGHT NOW. ONE IS THE SERVICE CENTER PROJECT. THIS IS PART OF THE COUNCIL TACTIC FOR UPGRADING THE SECURITY SYSTEMS OF THE CITY. SO EARLIER THIS YEAR, WE FINISHED THE FIRE TRAINING CENTER. THAT UPGRADE IS COMPLETE. THE LAST MAJOR BUILDING WE HAVE LEFT IS THE SERVICE CENTER. SO WE'RE GONNA COMPLETE THAT LATER THIS YEAR. AND ALSO THERE'S GONNA BE A VESTIBULE AREA BUILT TO, UH, PROVIDE BETTER SECURITY ACCESS INSIDE THAT FACILITY. SO AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE MULTIPURPOSE ROOM, THEY LACK STORAGE IN THAT AREA. SO WE'RE DOING A REMODEL IN THERE TO PROVIDE MORE STORAGE. AND THEN FINALLY, AT THE FIRE TRAINING CENTER, WE HAVE, UH, UH, THE FACILITY HAD A NUMBER OF REPAIRS THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE TO KEEP THE BUILDING COMPLIANT FOR TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES. SO THIS IS A SNAPSHOT OF FACILITIES MAINTENANCE FUND THAT, UH, HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS. UH, THIS YEAR IT'S BEING FUNDED AT THE SAME LEVEL AS IT WAS LAST YEAR, AND IN BOTH ARE GREATER THAN THE FIRST YEAR OF THE FUND, BUT WE'LL USE THAT FUND TO DO A NUMBER OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON. AND THEN THE FUTURE PROJECTS THAT'LL, THAT ARE ON THIS LIST, THIS SHOWS EIGHT DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT'LL TOUCH SEVEN DIFFERENT FACILITIES ACROSS THE CITY OVER THE NEXT COMING YEARS. AND THREE OF THOSE, UH, ONE FIRE STATION FIVE IS THE CURRENT CAPITAL PROJECT RENOVATION. BUT THAT RENOVATION DOESN'T INCLUDE THE APPARATUS, BAY AREA AND THE DOORS. AND THERE'S A REPAIR THAT WE NEED TO DO. YOU'LL NOTICE THE DIFFERENCE IN THE DOORS IN THE PICTURE. SO, UH, MUNICIPAL COURTS, THAT'S OUR NEXT MAJOR ROOF RENOVATION. SO WE'RE ASSESSING THE ROOFS AT THE VARIOUS FACILITIES WE'LL BE DOING IN MUNICIPAL COURTS NEXT. AND THEN FIRE STATION TWO IS JUST A REPAINTING OF THE APPARATUS BAY. SO THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. SO WE'RE GONNA KEEP MOVING FORWARD WITH THE WORK PLAN. WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO LOOK AT INNOVATE WAYS TO RECRUIT SKILLED TRADES PEOPLE. WE DO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY WITH A NEW SERVICE THAT'S BEING PROVIDED TO MUNICIPALITIES TO PROVIDE GENERALIST TYPE TRADE WORK. AND SO WE'RE SEARCHING THAT AS AN OPPORTUNITY. AND THEN, UH, WE'RE GOING TO, WE'RE TRYING TO COORDINATE MORE WITH CAPITAL PROJECTS TO STANDARDIZE SYSTEMS ACROSS THE CITY, WHICH MAKES OUR LIVES A LITTLE EASIER IN THE MAINTENANCE DIVISION. SO WITH THAT, I'LL ACCEPT ANY RECOMMENDATIONS AND SUGGESTIONS. WAYNE, GREAT PRESENTATION. THANK YOU, COUNSEL. ARE WE GOOD? OR ANY COMMENTS, MR. CHU? THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WELL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WONDERFUL PRESENTATION, AND I'M GLAD THAT WE HAVE A SEPARATE DEPARTMENT NOW, UH, THAT LOOKS FACILITIES AND, UH, FLEET. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WHEN ONE DEPARTMENT TRIED TO DO WORK ON OTHER DEPARTMENTS, YOU ARE WORKING OVERTIME, LOSING EFFICIENCY, AND, UH, IT'S A HEADACHE. UH, SO, AND LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE MANAGING LOTS OF HEADACHE NOW, UH, UH, AND MAYBE IN THE FUTURE, IF YOU HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, SINCE YOU STARTED, THIS IS ONE YEAR, MAYBE KEEP RECORD OF CERTAIN THINGS. I MEAN, MOST LIKELY YOU ALREADY HAVE THOSE, THE LIFE OF CERTAIN MATERIAL WHEN YOU USE, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, IF WE HAVE THOSE DATA, THEN REGARDLESS OF THE, YOU KNOW, MANUFACTURER, YOU HAVE YOUR OWN DATA, YOU CAN DECIDE WHICH ONE IS MUCH BETTER TO USE. RIGHT. IN THE PAST, YOU KNOW, I MADE A MISTAKE THINKING THAT, UH, FOR THE ROOF, UH, YOU KNOW, IT WAS VERY POPULAR USING THE WHITE, UH, THAT, UH, WHAT DO YOU CALL THAT THING? SIX MILL THICK, RUBBERY THING THAT YOU PUT. UH, IT, IT HELPS, YOU KNOW, AIR CONDITIONING USAGE, LESS, TEMPERATURE CONTROL MUCH BETTER. BUT MAINTENANCE IS TERRIBLE. UH, BECAUSE IF SOMEBODY WALKS ABOVE THE ROOF, YOU CAN MAKE A HOLE AND DIFFICULT TO FIND THOSE. SO THIS KIND OF THINGS, YOU KNOW, LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN AVOID MAINTENANCE BY CHOOSING RIGHT MATERIAL. UH, SO BECAUSE WE HAVE A, A SEPARATE DEPARTMENT, I'M VERY HOPEFUL AND OPTIMISTIC THAT YOU'RE GONNA BE DOING GREAT JOB. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, WAYNE. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE YOU COMING OUT TONIGHT. THIS [10. CONTINUATION OF PUBLIC HEARING, ZONING FILE 24-08, A REQUEST TO AMEND THE PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR A 13.03-ACRE DEVELOPMENT LOCATED BElWEEN WATERVIEW PARKWAY AND PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH HIGHWAY, EAST OF FRANKFORD ROAD, TO ALLOW STUDENT-PURPOSE BUILT APARTMENTS ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERlY IN LIEU OF APARTMENTS AND AMENDMENTS TO THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. ] TIME WE'RE GONNA GO TO ITEM 10, WHICH IS OUR PUBLIC HEARING, CONTINUATION OF PUBLIC HEARING. ZONING FILE 24 DASH OH EIGHT, A REQUEST TO AMEND THE PD PLAN DEVELOPMENT FOR A 13.03 ACRE DEVELOPMENT LOCATED BETWEEN WATERVIEW PARKWAY AND PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH. MR. MAGNER. THANK YOU MAYOR. UH, SAM CHAVEZ, OUR DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, IS HERE TO PRESENT THE CITY, UH, PRESENTATION. THE APPLICANT, UH, IS HERE AND, UH, IS AVAILABLE TO, UH, WE'LL MAKE A PRESENTATION. THEN, UH, WE WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS, UH, UH, REGARDING THINGS LIKE OPERATIONS. UM, UH, SO SAM IS, UH, GONNA GO AHEAD AND GIVE OUR CITY BRIEFING AND THEN WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE APPLICANT. SAM. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL. UH, THIS IS ZONING FILE 24 DASH ZERO EIGHT. UH, THIS WAS CONTINUED, UH, [01:50:01] BY COUNCIL, UH, TO THE KNIGHTS MEETING TO ALLOW THE, UH, DEVELOPER, UH, TO BE IN ATTENDANCE TONIGHT. HE IS IN ATTENDANCE TONIGHT. UH, THE PROPERTY'S LOCATED BETWEEN WATERVIEW PARKWAY AND PRESENT GEORGE BUSH HIGHWAY EAST OF FRANKFURT ROAD. THE PROPERTY IS OWNED TO A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. UH, THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST IS TO AMEND THAT PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT TO ALLOW MIXED USE PURPOSE-BUILT STUDENT APARTMENTS ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY IN LIEU OF MARKET RATE, MIXED USE APARTMENTS AND AMENDMENTS TO THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS OF THE, UH, CURRENT PD IN FRONT OF YOU IS THE ULTIMATE PROPOSAL. AS FAR AS THE CONCEPT PLAN GOES, THE ITEM IN BLUE IS REALLY THE ONLY AREA THAT THAT'S BEING AMENDED, AND IT'S BEING AMENDED BY THE TYPE OF APARTMENT. UH, THE AREAS ALONG THE SOUTHERN PERIMETER, UM, PERIMETER OF THAT AREA, UH, ARE UNTOUCHED. UH, THEY SHOW THE FIVE STORY PURPOSE-BUILT STUDENT APARTMENTS, THE FOUR STORY HOTEL, AND THEN THE TWO RETAIL, UH, STANDALONE BUILDINGS. THE CURRENT CONCEPT PLAN IS LABELED AS SUB AREA TWO. UH, IT'S CURRENTLY PROPOSED AS A MIXED USE MARKET RATE APARTMENT, UH, WITH A, UH, MAXIMUM NUMBER OF 335 UNITS. UH, FOR, WITH, UH, 450 BEDS, THE NUMBER OF REQUIRED PARKING SPACES IS 450. AND THAT IS ONE SPACE PER, UH, PER BEDROOM. UH, ALTHOUGH IT IS PROVIDING 475, UH, PARKING SPACES, UH, THERE ARE FIVE LIVEWORK UNITS, AND THERE'S A TOTAL OF 13,500 SQUARE FEET OF, UH, OF COWORKING AREA. THE PROPOSED CONCEPT PLAN, WHICH IS AGAIN, HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE, IS THE ONLY AREA THAT'S BEING, UH, AMENDED. AND THAT IS, THAT WAS THE F THAT WAS FORMALLY SUB AREA TWO, WHICH IS NOW ON THE CONCEPT PLAN. ON PROPOSED CONCEPT PLAN. THAT'S PHASE ONE. UH, THE CHANGES, UH, TAKING IT FROM A MARKET RATE TO A MIXED USE PURPOSE-BUILT STUDENT APARTMENTS, UH, WITH A MAXIMUM, MAXIMUM OF 173 UNITS WITH FIVE HUNDRED, FIVE HUNDRED AND THIRTY FOUR BEDS. UH, THE REQUIRED PARKING IS 428 AT, UH, 0.8 SPACES PER BED. THEY'RE PROVIDING 503, UH, PARKING SPACES, WHICH IS 0.93, UM, SPACES PER BED. THERE'S STILL FIVE LIVE WORK UNITS, AND THE RETAIL, UH, COWORKING SPACES BEEN REDUCED TO 8,024 SQUARE FEET. THIS ONE PROVIDES YOU A SIDE BY SIDE COMPARISON OF THE, THE APPROVED AND THE PROPOSED, UH, THERE'S STILL APARTMENTS, ALTHOUGH SUB AREA ONE IS NOW PHASE ONE. UH, IT IS GOING FROM A MIXED USE MARKET RATE APARTMENT TO A MIXED USE PURPOSE-BUILT STUDENT APARTMENTS. UH, THEY'RE CURRENTLY, UH, ENTITLED TO 335 UNITS. THEY'RE GOING DOWN TO 173 UNITS FOR A CHANGE OF, UH, OR A LOSS OF 162 UNITS. NUMBER OF BEDS, THEY'RE AT 450 AND, UH, THEY'RE GOING TO 534. SO THAT'S AN INCREASE OF 84 UNITS REQUIRED PARKING IS 450, THEY'RE GOING DOWN TO 4 28. THERE'S A CHANGE IN THE RATIO FROM ONE SPACE PER BEDROOM TO 0.8 SPACES PER BEDROOM. SO THAT'S A LOSS OF 22, UH, PROVIDED PARKING, THEY'RE STILL ABOVE THAT. UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE INCREASING IT BY 28 PARKING SPACES. UH, THE CURRENT, UH, PLAN DID NOT PROVIDE FOR SHUTTLE FOR THIS PARTICULAR, UH, DEPARTMENT DEVELOPMENT. THEY ARE PROPOSING TO PROVIDE THE, UH, THE, THE, UH, SHUTTLE SERVICE WITH NEW, UH, WITH THIS CHANGE IN IN APARTMENT TYPE. UH, THE, THE NUMBER OF LIVE WORK UNITS STILL REMAINS AT FIVE, UH, FIVE UNITS ACROSS. UH, THE RETAIL, THE COWORKING AREA HAS BEEN REDUCED FROM 13,500 SQUARE FEET TO 8,024 SQUARE FEET FOR A LOSS OF FIVE HUNDRED AND FOUR, FOUR HUNDRED AND SEVENTY SIX, UH, SQUARE FEET. AND THAT'S, AND THAT ACCOUNTS FOR THE NUMBER OF UNITS AND BEDROOMS THAT, THAT THEY'RE CONSTRUCTING WITH THIS, UH, PURPOSE-BUILT BUILDING. THE SECOND AMENDMENT REALLY HAS TO DO WITH THE PHASING PLAN. UH, THE CURRENT PHASING PLAN, UH, RE REQUIRED THAT BEFORE A CEO WOULD BE ISSUED FOR PHASE ONE, WHICH IS THE, THE CURRENTLY APPROVED PURPOSE BUILT DEPARTMENTS THAT BUILDING PERMITS FOR PHASE TWO, WHICH, WHICH WERE THE MIXED USE, UH, MARKET RATE DEPARTMENTS AND R THREE AND R FOUR, WHICH ARE THE STANDALONE RETAIL BUILDINGS ON THE FAR EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, UH, WOULD BE ACQUIRED. AND THAT 100% OF VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION OF THE FIRST FLOOR WAS COMPLETE. IN ADDITION, IT REQUIRED INFRASTRUCTURE COMPLETE FOR PHASE TWO, AND THEN THAT THE WATERVIEW SIDEWALK AND CONNECTING SIDEWALK, UH, BE CONSTRUCTED WHAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING. UH, AND YOU CAN SEE HOW THOSE PHASES ARE BROKEN DOWN. THERE'S A PHASE [01:55:01] ONE FOR THE, UH, PROPOSED, UH, PURPOSE-BUILT DEPARTMENTS. SO BEFORE A CO COULD BE ISSUED FOR PHASE ONE, THE INFRASTRUCTURE WOULD BE COMPLETE FOR PHASE TWO, PHASE TWO A AND TWO B. PHASE TWO A IS THE STANDALONE RETAIL. PHASE TWO B IS THE FUTURE PROPOSED HOTEL SITE AND THIS AND THAT, THE SIDEWALKS ALONG WATERVIEW, UH, PARKWAY AND THE CONNECTING SIDEWALK TO WATERVIEW PARKWAY FROM THE DEVELOPMENT BE CONSTRUCTED. AND THEN SECONDLY, THAT BEFORE IS CER, CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY COULD BE ISSUED FOR PHASE TWO, RETAIL THREE AND FOUR, WHICH IS A STANDALONE RETAIL, OR THE HOTEL PHASE, WHICH IS PHASE TWO B, ARE WEATHER TIGHT. IN OTHER WORDS, THEY'VE GOT A ROOF AND THEY'RE, AND THEY'RE HEALED IN, UH, FROM THE ENVIRONMENT. THIS ONE SHOWS YOU THE TYPES OF THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION SYSTEMS TO AND FROM THE PROPOSED SITE AND THE UTD CAMPUS. UH, YOU HAVE A MIX OF SIDEWALKS, UH, FUTURE SIDEWALKS, BIKE LANES, AND OF COURSE THE ROADWAY SYSTEM ITSELF. UH, BUT YOU SEE WHERE THERE'S A MISSING GAP RIGHT IN THE CENTER OF THIS DRAWING. YOU WILL SEE THIS NOTE HERE THAT SPEAKS ABOUT A RECOMMENDED PEDESTRIAN LINK AND CROSSING IMPROVEMENTS. UH, THERE'S A CONDITION THAT WAS NOT CONSIDERED BY THE, UH, BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AT THEIR MEETING, UH, BUT IS INCLUDED AS A RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF BASED ON THE, UH, UH, DISCUSSIONS THAT WE HAD WITH THE APPLICANT. THIS INTERSECTION ALSO IS ALSO THE FUTURE INTERSECTION WITH THE FUTURE EXTENSION OF REDFORD TWO, DRIVEWAY TWO. UH, THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER CONDITION IN IN THERE THAT IS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF BASED ON THE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE APPLICANT RELATED TO THE, UH, TO THE PARTIAL FUNDING FOR A FUTURE TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT THAT LOCATION. I, I INCLUDED THIS, THESE BUILDING ELEVATIONS, REALLY JUST TO SHOW YOU THE NORTH EL, THE NORTH ELEVATION OF BUILDING ONE, WHICH IS THE PROPOSED NOW STUDENT PURPOSE-BUILT APARTMENTS. YOU CAN SEE THE LIVE WORK UNITS HERE ALONG THE NORTH ELEVATION, AND ALSO THE RETAIL COWORKING SPACE ON THE SOUTH END OF THAT, OF THAT, THAT PROPOSED BUILDING, OF COURSE, EAST OF THE EAST AND WEST OF, THEY REALLY HAVEN'T CHANGED THE BUILDING STRUCTURE. THE BUILDING, UH, CHARACTER HAS NOT CHANGED WITH THIS PROPOSAL. SO ON MAY 22ND OF THIS YEAR, THE CITY, UH, CITY PLAN COMMISSION CONSIDERED THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST. THERE IS ONE LETTER IN SUPPORT, AND I BELIEVE THAT THAT IS IN YOUR PACKET. AND FIVE INDIVIDUALS SPOKE AND SUPPORTED THE REQUEST AT THAT MEETING. UH, THE, THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION VOTED SIX TO ONE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST AS PRESENTED. SO, CITY COUNCIL MAY APPROVE THE REQUEST AS PRESENTED, APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS OR, OR AMENDED CONDITIONS, OR DENY THE REQUEST. UH, THE CONDITION THAT THE COMMISSION ACTED ON WAS, UH, WAS FIRST CONDITION. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY SHALL BE ZONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AND DEVELOPED IN, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CONCEPT PLAN, THE ATTACHED DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, AND THEN THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS. SO ITEMS TWO AND THREE ARE THE ITEMS THAT, THAT I SPOKE TO, UH, PREVIOUSLY WITH REGARDS TO THE PARTIAL FUNDING OF A TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT THE FUNERAL, AT THE FUTURE INTERSECTION OF, UH, REDFORD ROAD AND, AND WATERVIEW PARKWAY. SO THAT CONTRIBUTION WOULD BE UP TO 25% OF THE COST OF THAT TRAFFIC SIGNAL. AND THEN THE, AND THEN THE THIRD ONE IS WITH THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSING THERE AT THAT FUTURE, UH, INTERSECTION OF REDFORD AND WATERVIEW PARKWAY, UH, THAT THE DEVELOPER OWNER WOULD INSTALL A RECTANGULAR OR RAPID FLASHING BEACON, WHICH IS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU SEE IN FRONT OF THE, UH, ARAPAHOE STATION. UH, SOMEONE APPROACHES THAT CROSSWALK AND IT, AND, AND IT SENDS, IT SENDS A SIGNAL, AND THOSE BEACONS FLASH. UH, SO THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE INSTALLED AT THAT LOCATION AS SHOWN ON THE CONCEPT PLAN, AND INCLUDING A SIDEWALK THAT WOULD BE INSTALLED ALONG THE SOUTH SIDE OF WATERVIEW PARKWAY EASTWARD, UH, TO THE PROPOSED DARK DRIVEWAY LEADING TO THE DART STATION. AND WITH THAT, I BELIEVE THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION, AND I KNOW THE APPLICANTS AND, UH, THE DEVELOPER HERE TONIGHT AS WELL. SAM. THANK YOU. COUNSEL. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? JENNIFER? UH, THANK YOU, MAYOR. SAM, I HAVE A QUESTION. UM, ON SLIDE SEVEN, WHAT DO WE MEAN BY INFRASTRUCTURE? WHEN WE SAY INFRASTRUCTURE IS COMPLETE, WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE, WHAT'S IT LIKE INFRASTRUCTURE'S, UM, DRIVEWAY PAVING, WATER, SEWER, UM, AND WHATEVER ELECTRIC ELECTRICAL STUB OUTS THAT THEY NEED FOR THOSE FUTURE PHASES. OKAY. SO IT'D BE A SIGNIFICANT, UM, UH, INVESTMENT? YES, MA'AM. IT WOULD BY THE APPLICANT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK, THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR NOW, MR. BARRIOS. THANK YOU, MAYOR [02:00:01] SAM. UH, TWO QUESTIONS ON SLIDE SIX. THANK YOU. UNDER THE PROPOSED, UH, UNDER A SHUTTLE SERVICE, IT'S NOW REQUIRED, WAS THIS, THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS OFFERED UP FROM THE APPLICANT, IS THAT CORRECT? IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. SO, SO I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHY IT WOULD BE REQUIRED VERSUS IT JUST BE AN AMENITY, LIKE A GYM OR MAYBE A DOG PARK OR SOMETHING ELSE AN APARTMENT WOULD HAVE. UH, WHY WOULD IT, I GUESS, COULD WE AMEND THIS? IT, IT JUST BOTHERS ME THAT IT WOULD BE A SHUTTLE SERVICE WOULD BE REQUIRED WHEN IT'S SO CLOSE TO THE, UH, NEW DART RAIL COMING IN. THE REASON FOR THE REQUIRED SHUTTLE IS THAT BASED ON THEIR TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, THEY TOOK A REDUCTION IN THE, IN THE, IN THE NUMBER OF TRIPS THAT ARE GENERATED IN AND OUT OF THE SITE BASED ON THE FACT THAT THERE WOULD BE A SHUTTLE SERVICE PROVIDED. SO, SO THE, SO THE, THE CURRENT ZONING REQUIRES A SHUTTLE FOR THE PURPOSE-BUILT STUDENT APARTMENTS. AND NOW SINCE THESE ARE TRANSITIONING OVER TO, OR WERE, OR PROPOSED TO TRANSITION OVER INTO A STUDENT PURPOSE-BUILT APARTMENT, WE FELT IT WAS APPROPRIATE TO ALSO REQUIRE THE SHUTTLE SERVICE FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT. OKAY. UH, SIMILAR QUESTION FOR, UH, PARKING. SO THE CURRENT PARKING, UH, WELL, THEY'RE, THEY'RE PROPOSING 500, SO OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND, AND SOMETIMES THAT'S REQUIRED BY FINANCEERS AND SOME STUFF LIKE THAT FOR THEM TO HAVE INCREASED PARKING. NOW, LOOKING AT THAT PARKING SPACE, THAT SEEMS REALLY HIGH FOR AN AREA, AGAIN, AROUND A TRANSIT AND A UNIVERSITY. UH, COULD WE LOWER THAT IN? I MEAN, IS THERE ANY REASON THAT CITY NEEDS THAT HIGH? IS THERE SOMETHING I'M MISSING THERE, OR IS THIS PURELY JUST, I MEAN, CAN WE LOWER IT AND THEN IF THEY'RE REQUIRED TO BUILD THAT, THEN THEY'RE REQUIRED TO BUILD THAT BY THEIR FINANCES OR WHATEVER REASON THEY HAVE? THAT JUST SEEMS REALLY HIGH REQUIREMENT. YOU COULD ULTIMATELY, UH, RECOMMEND A LOWER PARKING RATIO. UH, TRADITIONALLY WHAT WE'VE LOOKED AT IS THE CLOSER YOU ARE TO THE STATION, THE LOWER THE PARKING RATIO IS, YOU'RE STILL, YOU'RE, YOU'RE STILL PROBABLY ABOUT A QUARTER OF A MILE FROM, FROM, FROM THE RAIL STATION, AND YOU'RE MORE THAN THAT TO THE CAMPUS. UH, YEAH, BUT THIS IS PROBABLY THE LOWEST PARKING RATIO THAT WE'VE APPLIED TO ANY SORT OF MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT. OKAY. THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW. THANK YOU, SAM. MR. DORIAN. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UH, SAM, I JUST WANNA GET SOME CLARIFICATION ON A COUPLE THINGS. ONE, I KNOW THAT WE'RE DECREASING THE NUMBER OF UNITS BY 162, THEREFORE CREATING MORE BEDS FOR THAT AMOUNT OF UPGRADE IN, I GUESS, RESIDENCY. UM, THE OPINION IS, IS ON THE RETAIL SIDE, WOULD THAT, I MEAN, WE WENT FROM 13 FIVE DOWN TO 8,000. IS THAT ENOUGH TO CREATE THAT LIVE WORK ENVIRONMENT FOR THAT MANY STUDENTS, AS ASSUMING THESE WERE ALL STUDENTS? INITIALLY, WE ACTUALLY THOUGHT THAT, UH, THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL WAS FOR ALMOST 20,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL, AND WE THOUGHT THAT WAS EXTREMELY HIGH BASED ON THE TYPES OF APARTMENTS. UH, SO THEY, SO THEY REDUCED IT DOWN TO 1350. NOW, THE REDUCTION OF THE IN, IN 5,000 SQUARE FEET OF IT REALLY HAS TO DO WITH, WITH, UH, THE NUMBER OF BEDS THAT ARE BUILT INTO THESE KIND OF MULTI, YOU KNOW, TRIPLEX, FOURPLEX, UH, TYPE OF UNITS. SO THEY NEEDED THE ADDITIONAL SPACE, UH, TO PROVIDE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES. NOW, YOU CAN ALSO ASK THE APPLICANT AS TO WHETHER OR NOT, UH, THE, UH, 8,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL IS SUFFICIENT FROM A MARKET STANDPOINT, UH, TO BE SUPPORTED BY THE NUMBER OF BEDROOMS IN, IN, IN BOTH OF THESE PROJECTS. NOW, THE, THE THING TO ALSO, ALSO REMEMBER IS THAT THERE'S TWO ADDITIONAL FREE STANDING, UH, RETAIL BUILDINGS OVER ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, UH, THAT ACCOUNT FOR ABOUT 10,000 SQUARE FEET OF, OF, OF STANDALONE RETAIL. SO THAT WOULD GIVE US A TOTAL OF APPROXIMATELY 18,000 SQUARE FEET TOTAL. CORRECT. AND, AND IN YOUR, IN YOUR OPINION, IS THAT ENOUGH SPACE TO CREATE A LIVE WORK ENVIRONMENT FOR? I BELIEVE IT IS. OKAY. THAT, THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR NOW. COUNCILMAN HUTCH RETTER. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, GO BACK TO YOUR OTHER SITES, SAM, IF YOU DON'T MIND THAT ONE. SO WHEN IT SAYS SHUTTLE SERVICE REQUIRED, [02:05:02] CAN YOU DEFINE, I MEAN, IS IT, DO WE HAVE SOMETHING IN THE, IN THE REGS THAT STATE WHAT'S REQUIRED AS A PART OF THAT SHUTTLE SERVICE? I MEAN, IS IT A, IS IT A BUS FOR THAT CONCEDE 8, 10, 12, 15? IS THERE HOURS ASSOCIATED WITH IT? IS THERE ANY, IS THERE A, UH, WHATEVER I WANNA SAY A GUIDING RULE ON THAT AS TO WHAT, WHAT WE NOW SAY IS REQUIRED? YES, SIR. UH, THERE IS NO CAPACITY AS FAR AS THE, THE, THE SHUTTLE SERVICE GOES. UH, IT JUST GOES ON TO SAY, AN ONSITE PRIVATE SHUTTLE SERVICE SHALL BE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION OF STUDENTS TO AND FROM THE UTD, UM, UTD CAMPUS DURING THE WEEKDAY WHEN SCHOOL IS IN SESSION. NOW, WE, NOW, NOW THERE'S SOME DISCUSSION IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT TALKS ABOUT THE, THE HOURS OF OPERATION WEEKDAY WEEKEND, BUT THOSE WEREN'T INCORPORATED INTO THE, UH, ORDINANCE ITSELF. DOES IT NEED TO BE? IT COULD BE, YES, SIR. IT COULD BE. SO WOULD THAT BE AN AMENDMENT FROM US? IS THAT AN AMENDMENT FROM STAFF? I, I, I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THAT, BECAUSE THIS IS KIND OF NEW, THIS, THE SHUTTLE SERVICE REQUIREMENT IS SOMETHING NEW. I DON'T REMEMBER US HAVING THIS IN THE PAST, SO I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE LOGISTICS OF IT. LET ME, WHAT DO WE DO ON THE OTHER PHASE? YEAH, I, NO, NO, I WAS GONNA, I, THERE'S A, THE OTHER PHASE YOU SAID WAS REQUIRED, RIGHT? CORRECT. FOR THE STUDENT. SO WHAT DID, WHAT DID WE REQUIRE FOR THAT PHASE, AND COULD WE JUST DO THE SAME THING AGAIN? WELL, I, I THINK WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS STRIKE A BALANCE. IF, IF, IF THE COUNCIL WANTS TO REQUIRE A SHUTTLE SERVICE, IF WE CODIFY IT, THAT GIVES STAFF NO FLEXIBILITY TO ADJUST WITH, UM, ENROLLMENT, UM, UM, CHANGES IN ENROLLMENT, UM, SEASONS. I, I THINK, UH, UM, COUNCILMAN HUT RIDER, WHAT WE COULD DO, UM, IF, IF THAT'D BE THE DECISION THE COUNCILMAN NIGHT TO APPROVE WITH, UH, SHUTTLE, WE CAN GO BACK AND TRY TO, UM, CRAFT SOME LANGUAGE THAT WOULD KIND OF MAYBE SET SOME GOALPOSTS, BUT GIVE SOME FLEXIBILITY. YEAH, NO, I'M FINE WITH THAT. I JUST, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU SAY REQUIRED SHUTTLE SERVICE, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT, WHAT THAT EXACTLY MEANS. I THINK, I THINK WE COULD, I THINK WE COULD SET SOME GUIDING PRINCIPLES OR LIKE I SAID, SOME GOALPOSTS, BUT NOT BE SO SPECIFIC THAT WE'RE GETTING TO THE, TO THE DAILY OPERATIONS. YEAH. AND THAT, AND I, I'M FINE WITH THAT. I JUST, I, IT WAS JUST KIND OF VAGUE SURE. I GUESS IS WHAT I'M SAYING. SO I DIDN'T QUITE UNDERSTAND IT. OKAY, THANKS. NO, WE COULD, YEAH, RIGHT NOW WHAT'S IN YOUR STAFF REPORT IS VERY SPECIFIC. SO IT SAYS A SHUTTLE WILL RUN ON A CONTINUOUS LOOP AT, AT APPROXIMATELY 20 TO 25 MINUTES INTERVALS MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY FROM 8:00 AM TO 10:00 AM AND 3:00 PM TO 5:00 PM SHUTTLE WILL RUN HOURLY DURING NON-PEAK TIMES MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, 10:00 AM TO 3:00 PM AND FIVE TO 9:00 PM SO IT'S VERY SPECIFIC, UH, BASED ON ENROLLMENT, BASED ON WHETHER THEY COULD BE, YOU KNOW, THEY COULD BE MODIFIED DUE TO THOSE, UH, FACTORS. AND WHAT IF WE, IF WE CODIFY IT SO TIGHTLY, IT WOULD PUT THEM IN, IN, IN VIOLATION OF THE WARRANT. YEAH, AND I, I JUST, I WASN'T QUITE SURE WHO MY WORDS REGULATES THAT. SO IF, IF STAFF REGULATES THAT AND WORKS ALL THAT ALL THROUGH AND SETS IT UP, I'M FINE WITH THAT. I JUST, I, I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT MEANT WHEN IT JUST SAID SHUTTLE SERVICE REQUIRED, JUST TRYING TO GET CLAR CLARIFICATION. THANKS. OOPS. THERE WE GO. OKAY, MS. JUSTICE. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UH, SAM, WILL WE GO BACK TO SLIDE SEVEN? I'M REALLY JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, UM, IT SEEMS LIKE THIS IS JUST, YOU KNOW, APART FROM IT NOT BEING SORT OF MARKET RATE AND CHANGING TO STUDENT BILL, YOU KNOW, HOUSING IN PHASE ONE, IT SEEMS AS THOUGH THIS REQUEST IS JUST SORT OF SHIFTING THE PHASING AND WE'RE GETTING PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING THAT WE REQUESTED LAST TIME. AM I MISSING SOMETHING, OR IS THAT SORT OF THE BIG RUB HERE? WE'RE GETTING, WE'RE GETTING STUDENT BUILT HOUSING IN PHASE ONE NOW, WHERE IT WAS GONNA BE REGULAR MARKET RATE BEFORE, BUT, BUT IN ESSENCE, WE'RE GETTING EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE ASK FOR FROM SORT OF A PHASING STANDPOINT. WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE SOME, YOU KNOW, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE GO INTO PLACE. MM-HMM. AND ALL THAT. I MEAN, IT, I'M JUST TRYING TO REALLY BOIL IT DOWN TO BRASS TACKS. IS, IS THAT THE BIG CHANGE THAT IT'S NOW STUDENT PURPOSE AND WE'RE FLIPPING, WHICH, WHAT'S GOING FIRST AND WHAT'S GOING SECOND? THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S CORRECT. YES. WHAT YOU WOULD END UP GETTING DURING FIRST PHASE IS A TRULY MIXED USE BUILDING, RIGHT. WITH THE PROPOSED, WITH THE CURRENT, YOU'D GET PHASE ONE ONLY UNDER A CONDITION THAT THESE WERE, THAT THE FIRST FLOOR WAS CONSTRUCTED. YEAH. SO THE QUESTION IS, DO WE WANT MORE STUDENT PUR PURPOSE HOUSING IN A MIXED ESSENCE? RIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO THAT WOULD DEFINITELY BE A MIXED USE ENVIRONMENT. THANK YOU. SO THE, THE, THE GOAL PREVIOUSLY WAS TO HAVE THE PHASE ONE AND THE DETACHED RETAIL. YEAH. SO NOW WHAT YOU'RE GETTING IS YOU'RE GETTING THE MIXED USE BUILDING ALL IN ONE, ALL IN UNDER ONE ROOF. SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE GETTING ESSENTIALLY THE [02:10:01] SAME OUTCOME WITHOUT HAVING TO GO VERTICAL, YOU KNOW, ALL THE VERTICALNESS AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS DONE, BUT WE'RE STILL GETTING THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THOSE STANDALONE BUILDINGS AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. RIGHT. SO, OKAY, MR. BARRIOS, THANK YOU. YOUR MAYOR, SAM. UM, REMIND ME, WE, WE APPROVED SOME HOUSING, I THINK IT WAS LAST FALL OVER AT UTD. WHAT WAS THE REQUIREMENT? DO YOU, DO YOU HAVE THAT ON HAND? WHAT THE REQUIREMENT WITH THE SQUARE FOOT OF THE, UH, RETAIL WAS ON THAT? WAS THERE A REQUIREMENT FOR RETAIL ON THAT? THERE WAS A MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF RETAIL PER, UH, SO THERE WAS A MAXIMUM FOR ETD, BUT NO REQUIRED? CORRECT. OKAY. CORRECT. THANK YOU. NOW, THE PROPERTY ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF WATERVIEW, OF COURSE, IS A, IS A TRUE TOD. SO ONE OF THE CHARACTERISTICS OF A TRUE TE OD IS A MIXED USE ENVIRONMENT. SO ALTHOUGH IT'S NOT REQUIRED, JUST THE WAY IT'S DEVELOPED, IT'S ALMOST A FORM-BASED CODE. SO IT REQUIRES CERTAIN AMENITIES FOR CERTAIN, FOR CERTAIN USES. SO I, I CAN SEE THAT DEVELOPMENT, UH, TRULY BEING A MIXED USE ENVIRONMENT WITHOUT HAVING THE REQUIREMENT. OKAY. ANY MORE COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? OKAY. AT THIS TIME, WE'D ASK THE APPLICANT TO COME FORWARD AND PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND OR ANSWER QUESTIONS. OKAY. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL. MY NAME IS BARRY HAND. I AM A PRINCIPAL WITH GENSLER AT 5,005 GREENVILLE AVENUE IN DALLAS, AND I ALSO RESIDE HERE IN RICHARDSON AT SEVEN 10 LAGUNA. UM, BY THE WAY, I WANNA COMPLIMENT YOU ON YOUR QUESTIONS. I THINK ALL OF YOUR QUESTIONS ARE, ARE RIGHT HEADED AND HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. UH, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT URBANISM AND TOD, UH, SAM DID A GREAT JOB WITH THE TECHNICAL INFO. HE OUTLINED THE PHASING, UH, IN A PRETTY SLICK WAY. UH, BUT WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN HERE ABOUT 18 MONTHS AGO TO TALK ABOUT THIS PROJECT, AND YOU DID APPROVE A VERSION OF THIS BACK IN DECEMBER OF 22. UH, THE APPLICANT AND THE DEVELOPERS HAVE BEEN OUT TESTING THE MARKET WITH US. AND AS YOU KNOW, LENDING FOR A LOT OF THINGS RIGHT NOW IS PINCHED AND, UH, ESPECIALLY MARKET RATE HOUSING. A LOT OF THE LENDING HOUSES ARE JUST QUITE LITERALLY CLOSED. SO, UH, THAT HAS LEFT OUR APPLICANT AND HIS DEVELOPER TEAM UNDETERRED. AND SO WE'VE COME BACK TO YOU, UM, HOPEFULLY FOR A DEAL THAT WILL WORK AND BRING THIS NINE-FIGURE PROJECT TO OUR CITY. UM, IT'S MATURED, BY THE WAY, EVERY TIME WE'VE VISITED WITH YOU, I THINK COUNCILMAN CORCORAN, YOU MENTIONED THAT EVERY TIME WE COME IN, IT GETS BETTER. HOPEFULLY THIS IS THE LAST TIME, UH, I MENTIONED THE DIFFICULTIES IN LENDING. Y'ALL SEE THIS EVERY TIME YOU PROBABLY HAVE A ZONING HEARING LENDING IS REALLY DIFFICULT, UH, IN THE WORLD RIGHT NOW. AND, UH, THE STUDENT HOUSING LENDING IS ACTUALLY MUCH MORE FLUID RIGHT NOW. UH, LET'S GO TO THE ENLARGED PLAN. SO, SAM, AGAIN, TOUCHED THROUGH A LOT, LOT OF THE TECHNICAL PARTS OF THIS. THERE'S REALLY NO MATERIAL CHANGES TO THE PLAN COUNCILMAN JUSTICE. IT'S, IT'S REALLY ABOUT JUST REWORDING, PHASING, FLIPPING WHERE IT STARTS, AND ULTIMATELY CHANGING THE MARKET RATE PIECE, WHICH YOU SEE ON RESI ONE HERE TO A STUDENT PURPOSE HOUSING. UH, THE ORIGINAL ARRANGEMENT WOULD'VE REQUIRED TWO DIFFERENT DEVELOPERS. I THINK THIS WAS DISCUSSED IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. AND AS YOU KNOW, IN THE LENDING WORLD, THAT'S QUITE LITERALLY AN IMPOSSIBILITY. IF YOU'RE ASKING FOR ONE PARTY TO GET LENDING ON THE ACTIONS OF A THIRD PARTY, YOU CAN'T, YOU JUST CAN'T DO IT. YOU CANNOT DO IT. SO THAT WAS KIND OF A POISON PEEL THAT WAS PUT IN, UH, TOWARD THE END, TOWARD THE NINTH HOUR THAT JUST FRANKLY, SHOULDN'T EVER HAPPEN IN THIS CITY. UH, THOSE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT TRIGGERS REALLY RENDER A PROJECT, UH, IMMOVABLE. SO I'D LIKE TO SEE US RECONSIDER THINGS LIKE THAT GOING FORWARD. UH, AS I MENTIONED, ONE OF THESE BUILDINGS, UH, RUNS ABOUT 70 MILLION IN THE MARKET THESE DAYS. IT'S A FIVE STORY, WHAT WE CALL WRAP PRODUCT. TWO OF THOSE DO THE MATH, ADD SOME RETAIL INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE HOTEL. AND YOU'RE GETTING UP THERE TO A REALLY NICE APPRAISAL. SAM COVERED THE PHASING, BUT I WANNA STAY HERE JUST A MINUTE AND COVER, UH, THAT AGAIN, OUR, THE APPLICANT HAS FALLEN BACK TO ONE DEVELOPER THAT CAN DEVELOP THE ENTIRE SITE. THAT IS A MATERIAL DIFFERENCE [02:15:01] FROM WHEN WE MET, UH, IN 2022. SO WE'VE GOT ONE DEVELOPER, MR. AUGUSTINE, WITH ALTA TERRA. HE'LL VISIT WITH US AND SHOW YOU SOME DETAILS ON HIS PRODUCT IN JUST A LITTLE BIT. UM, THE DEMAND FOR STUDENT HOUSING AT UTD IS UNASSAILABLE . WE, AND, AND I KNOW WE HAVE SOME STUDENTS HERE, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE GONNA SAY, BUT THE DATA WE'VE COLLECTED IS, UH, JUST SHOWING A CRUSHING DEMAND FOR STUDENT HOUSING AT UTD. SO WE KNOW THAT THERE IS ENOUGH DEMAND TO PUSH THIS PROJECT ALONG AND FRANKLY, IMPROVE THIS LAND USE. UH, AS SAM MENTIONED, THE CHANGES HERE ARE CHANGES TO LANGUAGE AND PHASING. DR. MAHARI, WHO OWNS THE LAND, WILL STAY AS THE LANDOWNER. THE BUILDING FORM YOU APPROVED LAST TIME REMAINS. THERE ARE NO USE CHANGES. BOTH BUILDINGS WILL BE PURPOSE-BUILT STUDENT HOUSING, THAT IS REALLY JUST, UH, HOW THE INTERIOR IS CONFIGURED. INSTEAD OF ONE AND TWO BEDROOM APARTMENTS, THEY'RE ONE, TWO, AND FOUR BEDROOM PLEXES THAT HAVE, UH, ONE COMMON AMENITY FOR THEM. THE EXTERIOR, AS YOU SAW, REALLY DOESN'T CHANGE THE WAY THE BUILDING IS ARTICULATED AND EVERYTHING. UH, AGAIN, COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE, UH, CHANGES TO THE LANGUAGE AND THE PHASING AND THE POSITIONING OF THE INLINE RETAIL. SOMETHING WE LEARNED IN THE LAST 18 MONTHS DEALING WITH THE DEVELOPMENT MARKET, UH, THE RETAIL MARKET IS, UH, TO, IT WAS TO STRETCH THAT, STRETCH THAT RETAIL ALONG THIS AMENITY LAWN BEHIND THE HOTEL. YOU MAY REMEMBER THIS HOTEL HAS A LAWN BEHIND IT. AND THEN THIS RIGHT HERE IS WHERE THAT INLINE RETAIL FACADE KIND OF TURNS TO EACH CORNER AND ADDRESSES THESE FREESTANDING BUILDINGS. UH, THE PLAN SHUTTLE WE DISCUSSED IN THE LAST APPLICATION IS SHOWN TO RUN TO BOTH BUILDINGS. COUNCILMAN BARRIOS, . IT'S ARGUABLE THAT IT MAY NOT BE, MAY NOT BE NEEDED. WE DON'T WANNA LITIGATE THAT NECESSARILY HERE. I'LL LET THE APP, UH, THE DEVELOPER TALK ABOUT THAT. HE CAN GIVE YOU A LOT OF DETAILS ON WHAT THE SHUTTLE ACTUALLY IS. UH, BUT THEY DO THIS IN THEIR OTHER PROJECTS, AND THEY'VE GOT SOME EXPERIENCE DOING THIS. UH, LAST BUT NOT LEAST, THE LIVE WORK UNITS REMAIN AS DISCUSSED. LITERALLY NO CHANGES TO THOSE. UH, THE APPLICATION IS ACTUALLY A BETTER LAND USE. UH, I SAT KIND OF BEHIND THE TABLE WHERE YOU GUYS ARE FOR EIGHT YEARS ON OUR PLANNING COMMISSION, AND I AM PROUD THAT WHAT WE'VE COME BACK WITH IS ACTUALLY A BETTER LAND USE. UH, THERE ARE FEWER CARS, UH, THERE'S FEWER TRIPS. THE SIGNALED INTERSECTION BETTER MANAGES SOME OF THE RISK OF STUDENTS CROSSING WATERVIEW. UH, COUNCIL MEMBER HUTCH, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT 18 MONTHS AGO. A LITTLE BIT OF, YOU KNOW, CONCERN ABOUT WHERE THE STUDENTS ARE WALKING. THE DEVELOPER NOW IS PAYING FOR THAT, THAT SIGNAL, AS WELL AS THE SIDEWALK ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF WATERVIEW. SO IT'S, IT'S A BETTER RISK NOW, UH, NOW THAT WE'RE TRULY BEGINNING TO SEE THE POTENTIAL OF RUT FORD PUNCHING THROUGH AND HAVING THAT PEDESTRIAN WAY THROUGH THERE, UH, REDUCES THAT PATHWAY LENGTH. AND THEN LAST BUT NOT LEAST, UH, THE DEVELOPER IS, AS SAM SAID, COVERING, THIS IS A DIAGRAM THAT WAS IN THE CPC PACKAGE, BUT THAT SIDEWALK AND CROSSING IS RIGHT HERE OVER TO THIS NEW DRIVE LANE GOING DOWN INTO THE DART STATION, AND THAT WHICH WILL PUNCH ULTIMATELY THROUGH INTO THE CAMPUS. I'M GONNA FINISH UP WITH THIS. THESE ARE JUST SOME ILLUSTRATIVE IMAGES. THESE ARE LITERALLY THE IMAGES FROM 2018. NOTHING HAS CHANGED ABOUT THIS. UH, THIS IS THE CORNER RETAIL AND THE, THE LITTLE, UH, RETAIL BUILDINGS TO THE RIGHT ARE EAST SIDE OF THE STREET THAT GOES NORTH. THIS IS AN AERIAL OF PHASE ONE. SORRY, THAT'S PHASE TWO NOW, ACTUALLY. AND THEN I'M GONNA STOP RIGHT THERE AND LET MR. AUGUSTINE COME THERE. HE GOES, UH, HE AND HIS OPERATIONS PEOPLE ARE HERE TONIGHT TO WALK US THROUGH, UH, THE SPECIFICS OF THIS PRODUCT. I HOPE YOU'LL UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT BETTER ABOUT THAT IN A FEW MINUTES. WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE SHUTTLE IF YOU WANNA GIVE SOME DETAIL ON HOW THAT WORKS, AND WE'LL GO FROM THERE. THANK YOU. THANKS. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. COUNCIL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE THIS EVENING. UM, YEAH, WITHOUT RUNNING THE RISK OF DUPLICATING EVERYTHING THAT SAM AND BARRY SAID, UH, REGARDING TECHNICAL ASPECTS, UM, I'M HERE REALLY TO SHOW. WOULD YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MICHAEL AUGUSTINE WITH ALTA TERRA REAL ESTATE. UH, 1 4 4 1 WEST U BOULEVARD, PARK CITY, UTAH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, I WANTED TO BRING SOME EXAMPLES OF OUR SPACES. UM, SO STYLE OF SPACES, TYPES OF SPACES, DESIGN OF SPACES, EXTERIOR AND INTERIOR. JUST TO ILLUSTRATE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE DONE, YOU KNOW, IN THE PAST OVER, UH, MY 20 YEAR CAREER AND, AND MOST RECENTLY AT SOME PROJECTS THAT WE'VE DONE STUDENT HOUSING SPECIFICALLY. SO JUST FLIPPING THROUGH, UM, AGAIN, REALLY FOR ILLUSTRATED PURPOSES, JUST TO SHOW QUALITY, [02:20:01] STYLE AND DESIGN. UH, THESE WILL BE VERY SIMILAR SORT OF ATTRIBUTES, UH, INDOOR AND OUTDOOR THAT WE'LL HAVE ON OUR, OUR PROJECT. SO, FIRST EXAMPLE HERE IS JUST A STUDENT HOUSING PROJECT THAT'S ACTUALLY OPENING NEXT MONTH IN, UH, SALT LAKE CITY. UH, SERVING STUDENTS OF A UNIVERSITY OF UTAH, 192 BEDS. UM, A HIGH, HIGH-RISE PROJECT. WE JUST FINISHED THIS PAST YEAR, UH, UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA IN GAINESVILLE, UM, 663 BEDS. UH, MORE OF A DENSE PROJECT SIMILAR TO THESE BUILDINGS. UM, THIS IS MORE OF A HIGH-RISE TYPE PROJECT, MORE OF A GARDEN PROJECT, SURFACE PARKING. UM, ANOTHER GAINESVILLE, I'M A UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA GRAD. UM, ANOTHER GAINESVILLE, UH, FLORIDA PROJECT. 550 BEDS. SIMILAR, SAME PROJECT, JUST SHOWCASING SOME OF THE SPACES. AGAIN, INDOOR OUTDOOR AMENITY SPACES. SAME PROJECT FEATURES. ALSO, UH, SOME IMAGES OF OUR, OUR UNITS AS WELL. SO JUST OUTSIDE OF EXTERIOR INTERIOR, COMMON AREA, AMENITIES, RETAIL SPACES. UM, OUR UNITS ARE DESIGNED IN SORT OF A SIMILAR FASHION AS ALL, ALL OF OUR AMENITIES. AND AGAIN, JUST THE OVERALL AERIAL OF, OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT. UM, WITH THAT, I'LL JUST OPEN UP ANY QUESTIONS, MICHAEL. THANK YOU, UH, BARRY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATIONS. UM, BEFORE I HAND OVER TO THE COUNCIL, I, I'D LIKE TO ASK, I GUESS A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. AND I KNOW THESE WERE QUESTIONS THAT WERE, WERE BROUGHT UP PREVIOUSLY. WE DON'T CONSIDER THESE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THEIR MARKET RATE AS A TERM I THINK WE USED PREVIOUSLY. AND I, I SAY THAT, AND I THINK YOU, YOU UNDERSTAND WHERE I'M GOING HERE. THERE'S NO DOUBT THE STUDENTS AT UTD WANT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THEY WANT MORE OPTIONS TO LIVE. I THINK EVERYONE ON THE COUNCIL WILL AGREE TO THAT. BUT CURRENTLY THE ENROLLMENT AT UTD, AND I DON'T THINK YOUR NUMBERS, UM, REFLECTED THIS. THEY'RE DOWN A THOUSAND TO 1100 STUDENTS CURRENTLY FROM WHERE THEY WERE A YEAR AGO. THE AVERAGE COST OF A STUDENT HOUSING ON CAMPUS IS APPROXIMATELY 50% LESS THAN MARKET PRICE. SO I THINK WHAT STUDENTS ARE ASKING FOR IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR AFFORDABLE STUDENT LIVING, NOT NECESSARILY THIS. SO WHEN YOU, WE CHANGE IT A LITTLE BIT, ARE WE ACTUALLY CREATING, MAKING IT HARDER FOR THE STUDENTS TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO COME THERE? UM, THAT'S MY QUESTION. AND WE'RE LOSING 162 UNITS TO GO TO MORE OF THE THREE AND FOUR BED TYPE CONCEPT. CORRECT. AND BY DOING THAT, MY QUESTION WOULD BE, TO YOUR POINT, BARRY, THE MARKET IS NOT LENDING MONEY FOR THESE TYPE PROJECTS SO MUCH THAT THEY ARE WITH STUDENTS, BUT, SO THAT'S WHY YOU'RE SWITCHING IT. BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE, FOR EXAMPLE, NORTH SIDE RIGHT NOW, THOSE APARTMENTS ARE 63% FULL VERSUS A TYPICAL 87% FULL. SO WHAT'S GONNA MAKE US FILL THIS ONE UP? AND THEN IF WE DON'T FILL IT UP, DOES IT BECOME A FAILURE? AND WHAT WOULD WE DO WITH THIS TYPE OF APARTMENT LAYOUT BECAUSE WE COULDN'T MARKET IT IN THE FUTURE UNLESS IT WAS GOING TO THE STUDENTS. AND I'M NOT SURE THAT'S A WIN-WIN AT THIS POINT. CAN YOU HELP ME DIGEST SOME OF THAT, PLEASE? LEMME ADDRESS . GO AHEAD AND TALK ABOUT THE, THE INDUSTRY. SURE. MR. MAYOR, THOSE ARE GOOD QUESTIONS. UM, I DON'T PERSONALLY KNOW THE CURRENT OCCUPANCY AT, AT THE NORTH SIDE, UH, PROJECT. WE WOULD'VE TO CHECK ON THAT CHECK. WELL, I CAN TELL YOU IT'S 66% FULL RIGHT NOW. LAST I HEARD, AND EXCUSE ME, IT'S 80. NORMALLY THEY'RE 83% FULL. OKAY. OKAY. AND WHAT TYPICALLY HAPPENS IS ALL THE STUDENTS WILL WAIT TO SEE IF THEY CAN GET APARTMENTS ON CAMPUS OR DORMS. IF THEY CAN'T GET THERE, THEN THEY START GOING TO THE OTHER PLACES. AND THAT'S TYPICALLY, SO IN AUGUST THEY WOULD FIND OUT. [02:25:01] SO THOSE NUMBERS COULD CHANGE A LITTLE BIT HERE WITHIN YEAH, THAT'S SURE. UH, YOU KNOW, TWO OR THREE WEEKS. BUT WE JUST, I, I, I'M CONCERNED WITH THE LONG TERM OF WHAT COULD HAPPEN WHEN YOU SWITCH THE WAY THE APARTMENTS WOULD BE BUILT. YEAH. UH, AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW THE CURRENT, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF THOSE ARE SUMMER NUMBERS, UH, BUT NEVERTHELESS, UH, MY DAUGHTER'S ABOUT TO, UH, MOVE INTO THE DORM AT TEXAS TECH. AND I KNOW THE DORM LIVING AT, AT, AT MOST OF THESE UNIVERSITIES IS RADICALLY LESS THAN WHAT YOU CAN FIND IN A, IN A, IN A MARKET RATE APARTMENT. UH, THAT'S JUST ANECDOTAL ON MY PART. I WANNA ADDRESS, UH, WHY THIS WAS DONE. UH, MICHAEL AND HIS GROUP AT ALTA TERRA HAVE BEEN, AS YOU SOME OF YOU MAY REMEMBER, WITH THIS PROJECT FOR THREE OR FOUR YEARS NOW. AND HE'S BEEN VERY LOYAL TO THE PROJECT AND TO RICHARDSON. AND I'M HOPING THIS IS NOT HIS LAST TIME TO EVER COME BACK. UM, THEIR GROUP PRIMARILY ONLY DOES STUDENT HOUSING. AND I CAN TELL YOU IN OUR STUDIO RIGHT NOW, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS EARLIER THIS AFTERNOON, JUST ABOUT ALL OF OUR MARKET RATE HOUSING IS, IS DOWN. IT'S ON HOLD BECAUSE OF LENDING ISSUES. WE DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT'LL COME BACK, BUT WE'RE EXTREMELY BUSY DOING STUDENT HOUSING FROM COAST TO COAST. MICHAEL SHOWED ONE OF THEIR PROJECTS AT GAINESVILLE IN FLORIDA. SO IN SOME WAYS IT'S A MARKET REACTION. UH, BUT IT'S ALSO, WE THINK A BETTER LAND USE TO PUT MORE DENSITY THERE AND ULTIMATELY CATALYZE THE PROJECT. I MEAN, YEAH. IS THE ANSWER. IT'S SOMEWHAT OF A MARKET REACTION. YES. BUT AGAIN, WE DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY, WE'LL HAVE TO LET THE STUDENTS TALK TO US ABOUT THE ACTUAL DEMAND AND WHAT IT TAKES TO GET INTO APARTMENTS AROUND UT UTD OR SOME FORM OF RESIDENTIAL. TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE REST OF HIS QUESTION ON THE RENTS. YEAH. ONE OF THE MOST STUDENT HOUSING PROJECTS YOU'LL SEE ARE MAJORITY SAY 60 TO 65%, FOUR BEDROOMS. SO DENSITY INCREASES ON STUDENT HOUSING PROJECTS ARE PRETTY COMMON BECAUSE THE FOUR BEDROOM UNITS, MOST STUDENT HOUSING RENTS BY THE BEDROOM. AND THE MORE UNITS YOU HAVE IN A BEDROOM, EACH BEDROOM'S RENT IS LOWER. SO I KNOW FOR EXAMPLE, JUST, UM, IN LOOKING AT UTDS WEBSITE, THEIR HOUSING WEBSITE, I DON'T REMEMBER THE APARTMENT SPECIFICALLY, BUT WE TOOK THE APARTMENTS, NOT THE DORMITORY STYLE ROOMS THAT WERE MOST SIMILAR TO WHAT WE WOULD BE PROPOSING. AND THOSE, THOSE RENTS INCREASED 10% FROM LAST YEAR. YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S DUE PROBABLY TO, YOU KNOW, INFLATION. BUT I KNOW CERTAINLY FOR DEMAND, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S GENERALLY WHERE WE PRICE OUR RENTS AS WELL. SO OUR RENTS VERSUS NORTHSIDE RENTS, BECAUSE NORTHSIDE IS REALLY THE ONLY SIMILAR APARTMENT PROJECT, UM, CLOSE TO UTD AS TO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING. PLUS THE APARTMENTS, UH, ACTUAL BEDROOM BATHROOM PARODY ON CAMPUS ARE BASICALLY HOW WE PRICE OUR RENTS. SO OUR RENTS AREN'T GONNA BE VASTLY DIFFERENT OR HIGHER THAN WHAT YOU'RE SEEING FROM NORTH SIDE OR FROM, UH, UTDS SORT OF APARTMENTS ON THEIR HOUSING WEBSITE. OTHERWISE, WE WOULDN'T, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO FINANCE THE PROJECT. 'CAUSE I DON'T THINK ANYBODY'S, ANYBODY'S BUYING INTO US COMING IN AND SAYING, OH, WE'RE GONNA RENT FOR, YOU KNOW, $300 HIGHER PER STUDENT, YOU KNOW, JUST BECAUSE WE'RE BRAND NEW AND WE'RE HERE AND WE'RE NOT. WE HAVE TO ALWAYS BE MARKET COMPETITIVE. AND BECAUSE THERE'S NOT MUCH OF A COMPETITIVE MARKET IN, UM, RICHARDSON AROUND UTD FOR THESE TYPE OF APARTMENTS THAT WE'RE FALLING IN LINE WITH THOSE. BUT THE INCREASE IN DENSITY IS TO SPECIFICALLY ALWAYS HAVE MORE FOUR BEDROOM APARTMENTS, MORE HIGHER DENSITY APARTMENTS, BECAUSE THE MORE RESIDENTS YOU HAVE IN A UNIT, THE LOWER THE RENT PER PER BEDROOM. UM, UH, IT IS FOR PER STUDENT. OKAY. THANK YOU, UH, COUNSEL. MR. SAM. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. UH, YOU KNOW, I'M AN ENGINEER AND ALSO I'M A BUSINESS PERSON. I REALLY DON'T LIKE TO PUT CONDITION ON CONSTRUCTION SEQUENCE, UH, BY SOMEBODY ELSE. UH, BECAUSE WE ALWAYS PUT SOME CONSTRUCTION, CONSTRUCTION SEQUENCE IN THE PLAN, BUT WE PUT THAT AS A, YOU KNOW, SOLUTION. DURING CONSTRUCTION, THINGS HAPPEN. YOU HAVE TO BUILD DIFFERENT WAY. UH, BUT NOW YOU SAID THAT IT'S GONNA BE ONE BUILD ONE, ONE DEVELOPER, THE WHOLE THING. OKAY. UH, YES. OKAY. I'M GLAD THAT YOU ARE THINKING THAT WAY. OTHERWISE, EVEN IF THERE WAS NO PHASING BEFORE, JUST HAVING THE, ALL THE CONSTRUCTION, THE, UH, WHAT DO YOU CALL THAT THING, THE UTILITIES AND OTHER THING THAT YOU HAVE TO BUILD BEFORE, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO JUSTIFY THAT. ONE DEVELOPER WOULD NOT LIKE TO PUT UTILITIES FOR THE OTHER PHASES. IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. SO I HOPE YOU HAVE DONE ENOUGH WORK, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS GONNA BE DONE THIS TIME. UH, YOU KNOW, THE PAST WAS NOT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS THE PRO, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE THING WAS APPROVED, BUT IT WAS, IT WAS DESIGNED TO FAIL. [02:30:01] THAT'S WHAT I WOULD SAY. THAT'S MY, MY OPINION. UH, AND SO PUTTING CONDITION, YOU KNOW, THOSE KIND OF THINGS, I'M NOT IN FAVOR, BUT I'M GLAD THAT, BUT IF IT COMES FROM THE DEVELOPER, I DON'T HAVE PROBLEM WITH, IF SOME, IF YOU WANT TO PUT CONDITIONS BY YOURSELF, YOU KNOW, I'LL TAKE IT BECAUSE YOU ARE AGREEING ON THINGS, UH, AND, UH, EH, YOU KNOW, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THAT'S A, THAT'S A BIG ISSUE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE RENT IS GOING UP. BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, FREE MARKET, CAN WE, CAN WE CONTROL THE MARKET? WE CAN'T. I MEAN, WE ARE, WE CANNOT BE LIKE BOTH WAY THAT WE ARE. WE WANT, UH, TO CONTROL THE PRICE, UH, BUT WE WANT TO BE FREE, BUT IT DOES NOT WORK. SO TO ME, I WOULD LEAVE THAT TO THE MARKET, THE MARKET CONDITION, MARKET PRICE. IF STUDENT HAVE A CHOICE RIGHT NOW, THEY DON'T HAVE A CHOICE. I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THEM A CHOICE SO THAT THEY CAN CHOOSE WHETHER THEY WANNA GO THERE OR THERE. RIGHT NOW, THEY HAVE TO GO THERE, THERE IS NO OTHER THERE. SO I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO, THIS IS VERY OLD, YOU KNOW, OVERDUE PROJECTS PERSONALLY, I SAY AGAIN, WE SHOULD HAVE, HAVE THIS THING DONE MANY YEARS AGO TO GIVE SOME OPTION TO THE STUDENTS. UH, UH, RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, WE ARE WAY BEHIND. WE ARE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, LIVING AREA COMING UP IN THE CITY LINE AREA. SO ONCE THE SILVER LINE AND OTHER OTHER THINGS BUILD, THEY WILL HAVE A CHOICE TO, YOU KNOW, LIVE OUTSIDE CAMPUS. BUT THAT'S GONNA TAKE A LITTLE TIME. SO LET ME ASK YOU ONE, ONE QUESTION. UH, I SEE, UH, YOU HAVE SOME NICE RENDERING, UH, OF THIS, HOW YOU ARE PLANNING TO RUN THE UTILITIES, UH, ELECTRIC AND YEAH, LET'S GO TO THAT PICTURE. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PICTURE. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TREES. IF IT GROWS LIKE THAT, THEN HOW YOU ARE PLANNING TO RUN THE ELECTRICAL AND OTHER UTILITY. I GOTCHA. MR. SHAEL, I WOULD BE DISAPPOINTED IF YOU DIDN'T ASK THAT QUESTION. UM, TYPICALLY ON A STREET LIKE THIS, THE UTILITIES RUN IN THE STREET. UH, THIS IS NOT A PUBLIC STREET. IT WOULD BE A QUASI-PUBLIC STREET OR WHATEVER YOU GUYS WANNA CALL IT. HUH? A DRIVEWAY. YEAH, DRIVEWAY. SO THEY TYPICALLY RUN IN THE CENTER AS, YOU KNOW, YOU'LL HAVE FRANCHISE UTILITIES AND SOME PUBLIC UTILITIES THAT THE DEVELOPER HAS AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY TO RUN. AND THAT'S TYPICALLY WHERE WE PUT THEM UNDERGROUND. ABOVEGROUND, CERTAINLY UNDERGROUND. UNDERGROUND, OKAY. YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I WANTED. WATER, SANITARY SEWER, STORM SEWER, I MEAN, YEAH, WATER, SANITARY, DEFINITELY UNDERGROUND, BUT I WAS MORE INTERESTED ON THE ELECTRIC. OH, WELL, I, I WOULD IMAGINE YOU GUYS WOULD REQUIRE ELECTRICITY BE UNDERGROUND, RIGHT? YEAH. UNDERGROUND. NO, THAT'S, THAT'S GREAT. OTHERWISE, I SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE PROJECT THAT WE HAVE THAT WE HAVE NICE TREE, BUT THEN IT'S TOUCHING THE ELECTRICAL, BUT THEN NOW YOU ARE SHAVING THE TOP. YEAH, JUST BARELY HAVING COUPLE AND THEN THE POWER GOES OUT WHEN YOU HAVE STRAIGHT LINE WINDS. RIGHT. SO, NO, THAT'S GOOD. UH, NOW WHAT KIND OF TIMEFRAME YOU ARE LOOKING AT? IT'S A GREAT QUESTION. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT IN OUR WORK SESSION THIS AFTERNOON. YEAH, PROBABLY THE EARLIEST, AND THE STUDENTS MAY WANNA COVER THEIR EARS. PROBABLY THE EARLIEST A SYSTEM LIKE THIS COULD COME ONLINE WOULD BE 27. YOU NEED ABOUT A YEAR TO DESIGN AND TWO YEARS TO BUILD. SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S AS, AS YOU SAID, IT'S LONG OVERDUE, BUT IT'LL TAKE ABOUT THREE YEARS TO REALIZE SOMETHING LIKE THIS STILL WAY BEHIND. I MEAN, YEAH. YEAH. SO NOW WHAT'S THE RATE YOU'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW? MARKET RATE. YOU ARE SAYING THAT I, I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME, SO I DON'T WANNA MISSPEAK, BUT YOU CAN GO TO NORTH SIDE AND YOU CAN GO TO THE TWO BEDROOM, TWO BATHROOM APARTMENTS ON THE HOUSING SITE AT UTD, AND WE WOULD BE GENERALLY IN LINE WITH THOSE RENTS PER MONTH. OKAY. WELL I'M GLAD THAT YOU HAVE THAT, YOU KNOW, MULTIPLE, YOU KNOW, MORE BEDS IN ONE UNIT. THAT'S HOW WE CAN, YOU ALREADY MENTIONED THAT YOU CAN CUT DOWN THE COST. MM-HMM. , UH, WHEN SOMEONE SHARED THE UNIT, UH, BUT STILL THEY WOULD HAVE THEIR OWN BEDROOM AND BATHROOM AND BATHROOM. YEP. SO, UH, BUT OTHER THINGS WOULD BE SHARED, CORRECT? IT'D BE LIKE A NORMAL ATE NORMAL APARTMENT UNIT, LIVING ROOM, KITCHEN, ET CETERA. EVERYONE WOULD HAVE, UH, THEIR OWN LOCK ON THEIR DOOR WITH THEIR OWN BEDROOM, OWN BATHROOM, AND THEN AN INDIVIDUAL LEASE. SO THEY'RE NOT ALSO OBLIGATED FOR OTHER PEOPLE. FAR SEMI FARESE. I'M SORRY, IS IT GONNA BE FURNISHED? UNIT I, YEAH, FULLY FURNISHED UNITS, UM, INTERNET, ALL UTILITIES INCLUDED, ET CETERA. IT'S LIKE A TURNKEY PACKAGE. OKAY, THANK YOU MR. RETTER. I JUST WANT, BARRY, YOU SAID THAT THERE WOULD BE, HE, THAT YOUR, YOUR GENTLEMAN WOULD WANNA TALK ABOUT THE SH THE SHUTTLE. SO I JUST WANTED TO REMIND YOU [02:35:01] THAT YEAH, FOR THAT, FOR THAT TO BE COVERED, HOW DO YOU TYPICALLY DO IT? YEAH, I MEAN, THE WAY WE TYPICALLY DO THAT, AND WE'VE ACTUALLY SAID THIS IN THE PAST, UM, THERE'S, THERE'S NO, THE SCIENCE AROUND THIS IS WHEN THE RESIDENTS ARE SIGNING LEASES. AND WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM ONE OF THE LARGEST MANAGEMENT COMPANIES IN THE COUNTRY HERE WHO WE USE FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS. UM, WE DO IT THIS WAY. EVERY PROJECT WE USE IS SHUTTLE IS, WE CREATE SOME GOALPOSTS AROUND WHAT WE'RE DOING. LIKE WE SAID, THERE'S HOURS, THERE'S FREQUENCIES DURING PEAK HOURS, THERE'S FREQUENCIES DURING NON-PEAK HOURS. BUT THE REALLY, THE REALLY, THE WAY TO FINE TUNE THIS IS WHEN THE RESIDENTS SIGN THEIR LEASES AND YOU, YOU, YOU SURVEY THE RESIDENTS, YOU FIND OUT HOW MANY RESIDENTS HAVE CLASSES IN THE MORNING, CLASSES IN THE AFTERNOON, CLASSES IN THE EVENING, WHAT THEIR DURATIONS ARE, ET CETERA. AND THAT'S HOW YOU FINE TUNE THIS. BUT WE'VE SET GOALPOSTS AROUND, YOU KNOW, THE HOURS THAT THE SHUTTLE WILL RUN WILL RUN FROM MORNING TO EVENING. WE KNOW WHAT PEAK HOURS ARE GONNA BE FOR CLASSES JUST BASED ON PREVIOUS PROJECTS. AND THEN FINE TUNING ALL OF THIS, YOU KNOW, BUS SIZE, ET CETERA, IS GONNA BE HOW MANY STUDENTS WANNA OPT IN FOR THE SHUTTLE WHEN THEIR CLASSES ARE, ET CETERA. THAT TYPE OF INFORMATION HELPS US SORT OF FINE TUNE THE PROGRAM WITH THE SHUTTLE. THANK YOU MR. BARRIOS. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, I WAS LOOKING FORWARD A COUPLE OF SLIDES AND I WAS THINKING ABOUT MAYOR'S QUESTION. AND FIRST OF ALL, I DO WANNA SAY I WAS LOOKING AT THOSE PICTURES OF THESE APARTMENTS MUCH, MUCH NICER THAN ANYTHING. I LIVED IN , SO THAT YEAH, STUDENT HOUSING HAS CHANGED, RIGHT? YEAH, APPARENTLY IT HAS. UM, REALLY NICE. I USED TO LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD JUST SOUTH OF THE UNIVERSITY. UM, MY PREVIOUS HOUSE WAS THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE GREENWOOD HILLS AREA. AND I KNOW BACK THEN, I THINK I MOVED, I GUESS IT'S BEEN EIGHT OR NINE YEARS SINCE I MOVED A LITTLE FURTHER SOUTH BACK THEN, A LOT OF THEM WERE BEING BOUGHT AND TURNED INTO RENTALS, UH, FOR A LOT OF GRAD STUDENTS. UM, AND I KNOW THE APARTMENTS UP AND DOWN KUT BETWEEN CAMPBELL AND, AND BUSH ARE FILLED WITH STUDENTS AS WELL. SO I, I AGREE. I, I WOULD, AND YOU OBVIOUSLY KNOW THIS INDUSTRY A LOT BETTER THAN I DO. UH, SO I'M ASSUMING BEFORE YOU, UH, MONEY'S INVESTED, YOU, YOU'VE, YOU'VE DONE YOUR DUE DEAL DILIGENCE ON THE PROJECT. UM, HA DO Y'ALL TAKE, I GUESS THE QUESTION THERE, HAVE Y'ALL LOOKED AT THOSE HOUSING TO KIND OF, YOU KNOW, THINKING OF MAYOR'S QUESTION REGARDING, YOU KNOW, THE, UM, OTHER APARTMENT SCENARIO AND WHAT YOU'RE, I GUESS IS IN YOUR COMPETITIVE SET? YEAH. UM, DO YOU TAKE THE HOUSES INTO THAT? 'CAUSE I, I WOULD THINK THAT THAT YOU, YOU MENTIONED SPECIFICALLY THE NORTH SIDE, I WOULD THINK THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT MUCH OTHER STUFF OTHER THAN JUST NORTH SIDE WHEN DEVELOPING PRICING AND DEMAND. CAN YOU KINDA SPEAK TOWARDS THAT? YES. MAYBE THE VARIETY OF WHAT YOU LOOK AT IN YOUR SET? ABSOLUTELY. UM, YEAH, WE REALLY LOOK AT THE ENTIRE DEPTH OF THE MARKET. ALTHOUGH WHEN YOU'RE COMPARING LIKE APPLES TO APPLES, IF WE WERE TO HAVE AN INTERNAL CONVERSATION, WHO'S OUR COMPETITION? YOU KNOW, WE'D PROBABLY SAY NORTH SIDE AND YOU KNOW, THESE SPECIFIC, YOU KNOW, DORM ROOMS OR HOUSING TYPES ON CAMPUS HOUSING. UM, ABSOLUTELY BECAUSE WE WANNA SEE WHAT PEOPLE ARE PAYING IN THE MARKET. AND THEN WE'LL ALWAYS DO SORT OF LIKE A PREMIUM DISCOUNT ANALYSIS. SO SIDE BY SIDE, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT PROFESSIONALLY MANAGED, IT DOESN'T HAVE AMENITIES. IT PROBABLY DOESN'T INCLUDE UTILITIES, IT MAY NOT BE FULLY FURNISHED, ET CETERA. SO THERE'S SORT OF LIKE A PLUS AND MINUS SORT OF BALANCE YOU GO THROUGH. BUT YEAH, WE LOOK AT EVERYTHING. SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT JUST, UM, YOU KNOW, DATA SERVICES, DATA SUBSCRIPTIONS THAT BASICALLY CAPTURE MOST OF THE STUFF IN THE MARKET. BUT WE HAVE OUR, OUR PARTNER COMPANIES WHO HAVE A LOT OF EXPOSURE IN ALL OF THESE MARKETS, UM, HELP PROVIDE US WITH THOSE DATA. WE USE ZILLOW, WE USE ALL OF IT. I THINK SIMPLY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION IS THAT YES, WE LOOK AT THE ENTIRE MARKET AND WHAT YOU'RE SPEAKING OF, WE CALL SHADOW MARKET. LEMME ADD ONE THING. SURE. IT'S A GREAT QUESTION. ALSO, WE'VE, WE'VE LOOKED WITH SOME OTHER TEAMS, UH, THROUGH THE YEARS AT SOME OF THE PARCELS ALONG MCCALLUM, IS IT MCCALLUM THAT RUN? YEAH. UH, SOME OF THAT WOOD FRAME, GARDEN STALL STUFF IS ABOUT 40, 45 YEARS OLD IN THERE. AND A LOT, I, I DON'T KNOW, THE STUDENTS MAY SPEAK TO THIS, THEY MAY KNOW MORE ABOUT IT THAN ME, BUT A LOT OF THAT HOUSING IN MCCALLUM IS AT THE END OF ITS LIFE AND WE'RE NOT SURE, OTHER THAN IT JUST BECOMING COMPLETELY BLIGHTED IN THERE AND UNSAFE, IF THERE ARE ANY PLANS TO REPURPOSE THAT. BUT THOSE GOING OFFLINE OVER THE YEARS ARE GONNA IMPACT THE DEMAND AS WELL. OKAY. SEEING NO MORE LIGHTS, BARRY, MICHAEL, WE'LL ASK YOU TO TAKE A SEAT. WE MAY ASK YOU TO COME BACK UP THIS TIME. I'D LIKE TO OPEN THIS TO THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK IF THERE ARE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS. MS. ER? YES MA'AM. I HAVE SEVERAL, UH, SHANDOO, GAR POTTI. HELLO, MY NAME IS [02:40:01] CHENDU TI AND I LIVE AT 2,800 WATERVIEW PARKWAY. UM, THAT'S UTD AND I'M THE PRESIDENT OF COMMENTS FOR BETTER TRANSIT. WE SUPPORT THIS DEVELOPMENT AND WE SUPPORT THESE CHANGES FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS. FIRST OF ALL, BECAUSE WE REALLY, REALLY DO NEED MORE HOUSING NEAR CAMPUS. THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT FOR THIS LAST SCHOOL YEAR, 2023 TO 2024, THERE WERE 900 PEOPLE ON THE WAIT LIST ACCORDING TO OUR STUDENT NEWSPAPER, THE MERCURY. SO THAT MEANS ACCORDING TO THE MERCURY, 75% OF PEOPLE WHO APPLIED FOR HOUSING DIDN'T GET IN. THAT DOESN'T EVEN INCLUDE THE PEOPLE WHO KNEW THAT WOULD HAPPEN, AND SO DIDN'T EVEN TRY. THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT FOR THIS UPCOMING YEAR, 2024 TO 2025, HOUSING IS FULL. THE ONLY REASON WHY I'M ABLE TO RESIDE AT MY ADDRESS AND KEEP THAT SAME APARTMENT AS A SENIOR IS BECAUSE I'M ON SCHOLARSHIP. BUT SO MANY STUDENTS AREN'T, AND THEY STILL WANT HOUSING ON OR NEAR CAMPUS, BUT THEY'VE, YOU KNOW, JUST SORT OF LOST FAITH IN THE, IN UTD TO PROVIDE THAT FOR THEM BECAUSE LIKE I SAID BEFORE, YOU KNOW, RENTS HAVE INCREASED BECAUSE UT D HAS ALL THESE APARTMENTS ON CAMPUS, BUT THE DEMAND IS SO HIGH THAT THEY CAN KIND OF SET WHATEVER PRICE THAT THEY WANT. SO INCREASING THE COMPETITION HERE BY ALLOWING THIS DEVELOPMENT TO GO THROUGH, WOULD DEFINITELY HELP MAKE THAT APARTMENT, THOSE APARTMENTS MORE AFFORDABLE. AND ABOUT THE RATES OF RESIDENCY, IT'S THE MIDDLE OF JULY, WE'RE IN SUMMER BREAK. OF COURSE, THE RATES OF RESIDENCY ARE NOT AS HIGH AS THEY WOULD BE NORMALLY. I REALLY WANT THIS. I, I KNOW I'M NOT GONNA SEE THIS DEVELOPMENT BUILD. I AM GOING TO GRADUATE BEFORE THEN. I'M DOING THIS FOR THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN STRUGGLING TO FIND HOUSING, WHO TAKE NAPS IN THE COMMON AREAS BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST REALLY TRYING TO MAKE THINGS WORK, MAKE ENDS MEET. I'M DOING THIS BECAUSE WE HAVE A PROBLEM HERE AND THIS DEVELOPMENT COULD BE PART OF THE SOLUTION IF WE JUST LET IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. LIAM NICHOLS. HELLO, MY NAME IS LIAM NICHOLS. I LIVE AT 2,700 WATERVIEW PARKWAY. UM, I'M ALSO SPEAKING IN FAVOR OF THE, UM, ZONING CHANGE OR THE ZONING CHANGES. UH, PARTICULARLY I THINK THE CHANGES IN THE PHASING REQUIREMENTS ARE PART, ARE VERY SENSIBLE IN TERMS OF LIKE, UM, GETTING UTILITIES ON THE GROUND AND THE SIDEWALKS BUILT. UM, WE HAVEN'T SEEN A STUDENT HOUSING PROJECT FROM THE UNIVERSITY SINCE 2017. IT'S BEEN LONG OVERDUE. AND WHILE THEY HAVE LAID OUT SOME, UM, NEW GROUNDWORK FOR LIKE FUTURE PLANS, UM, IT'S NOTHING THAT'S THEIR IMMEDIATE PRIORITY. UM, OUR CURRENT ON-CAMPUS, LIKE CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS HAVE SEEN, BEEN INVOLVED LIKE WITH THE, LIKE THEY'RE BUILDING MORE PARKING LOTS, THEY'RE BUILDING MORE, THEY DESTROYED OUR DISC GOLF COURSE. LOTS OF THINGS TO BE KIND OF UPSET ABOUT THAT THEY DIDN'T TELL US. SO, UM, I THINK JUST BUILDING MORE ON LIKE LOCAL CAMPUS HOUSING, EVEN IF IT'S NOT OWNED BY THE UNIVERSITY AND IT IS MARKET RATE, UM, IS STILL BETTER THAN NOTHING AND NORTH SIDE'S LUXURY APARTMENTS SHOULDN'T BE THE ONLY ALTERNATIVE. THANK YOU. CONNOR. HOLLA, UH, MY NAME IS UH, CONNOR. I LIVE AT 3 5 5 1 WILSHIRE WAY IN CITY LINE. UM, I SUPPORT THIS DEVELOPMENT. UH, I DO AS SOMEONE WHO USED TO GO TO UTD AND GRADUATED, UM, I KNOW THIS MIGHT NOT BE AS AFFORDABLE AS THE ON-CAMPUS UNITS, BUT I STILL BELIEVE ADDING ANY UNITS TO THE, UH, COMPETITION WILL, UH, DRIVE LOWER PRICES. UH, BUT ALSO THIS IS JUST, UH, GOOD TRANSIT-ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT NEXT TO THE SILVER LINE AND THAT HELPS START, THAT WILL GIVE THEM THE MEANS TO JUSTIFY MORE SERVICE. SO THAT'S ALWAYS GOOD. AND I MEAN, YOU CAN SEE IT ON THE BUS ROUTE. I TAKE O OFTEN JUST EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT AS CROWDED AS IT USED TO BE, SINCE OUR OUTTA THAT SERVICE, IT STILL GETS VERY CROWDED. SO I THINK A LOT OF THOSE THAT COULD, THIS COULD HELP ALLEVIATE THAT CROWDING IF THERE'S MORE HOUSING CLOSE TO CAMPUS. SO THANK YOU BENJAMIN GOODINE. HI AGAIN, EVERYONE AT THE, UH, CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS BENJAMIN GOODE AND I LIVE AT THE SAME ADDRESS, 1250 STATE STREET. AND I'M HERE TO JUST TALK ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT. I THINK IT'S GREAT. I [02:45:01] MEAN, REGARDLESS, EVEN IF IT IS MARKET RATE, HOUSING IS HOUSING AND WE DO NEED MORE OF IT FOR STUDENTS AND IT STILL HAS COMPETITION AGAINST NORTHSIDE. UM, ONE CONCERN THAT I HAD OVER THIS DEVELOPMENT WAS THAT THE PARKING RATIO WAS QUITE HIGH. A 0.94 TO ONE RATIO IS PRETTY HIGH, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE CONSIDERING, I MEAN, THESE ARE COLLEGE STUDENTS. THE CAR OWNERSHIP'S GONNA BE REALLY LOW. AND I MEAN, ESPECIALLY SINCE YOU HAD A REDUCTION IN RETAIL SQUARE FOOTAGE, I MEAN YOU HAVE MORE BEDS, BUT YOU ALSO HAD A REDUCTION IN UNITS. IF YOU WERE TO LOWER THE PARKING RATIO CLOSER TO 0.5, YOU WOULD HAVE MORE UNITS AND MORE RETAIL SPACE, WHICH WOULD, I MEAN, PROBABLY BE BETTER SUITED FOR STUDENT HOUSING. UM, I'M JUST GONNA REFERENCE A STUDY THAT I SAW IN THE LETTER OF SUPPORT. UH, THIS IS, THIS WAS DONE BY THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS OR NCT COG, AND THEY BASICALLY STUDIED 16 PARKING ZONES WITHIN TOD DEVELOPMENTS. AND THE IDEAL PARKING USAGE FOR A PARKING LOT IS ABOUT 90% USAGE. BUT 13 OUT OF 16 SITES ONLY SAW ABOUT 80% USAGE WHENEVER THEY WERE STUDYING THE PARKING LOT USAGE. AND EVEN AT CITYLINE, WHICH DOESN'T HAVE A MAJORITY STUDENT POPULATION, THAT'S LIKE ALL MARKET RATE, ALL LIKE PEOPLE WHO CAN AFFORD CARS, YOU STILL HAVE ABOUT 2,344 EMPTY SPOTS AT CITYLINE, WHICH IS QUITE HIGH WHEN YOU CONSIDER THE AVERAGE MEDIAN COST PER PARKING SPACE IN A GARAGE IS $17,454. I THINK THAT THERE'S A LOT MORE, UH, REVENUE TO BE MADE, LIKE A LOT MORE TAXABLE REVENUE TO BE MADE FROM MORE UNITS AND MORE RETAIL. AND ALSO, I MEAN FOR STUDENT HOUSING, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE NEED MORE OF IT AND ESPECIALLY SINCE IT'S GONNA BE THREE TO FOUR YEARS FROM NOW. AND WITH OUR METROPLEX GROWING CONTINUALLY, WE DEFINITELY NEED TO ALLOCATE MORE SPACE TO LIVING INSTEAD OF PEOPLE'S METAL BOXES. UH, THANK YOU FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AND HEARING WHAT I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. QUI GUEN. HELLO MAYOR COUNSEL, MY NAME IS QUI GWEN. I RESIDE AT 800 WEST WINTER ROAD, APARTMENT 3 1 1 4 AT RICHARDSON, TEXAS 7 5 0 8 0. AS YOU HAVE PREVIOUSLY HEARD, LIKE THE STUDENT HOUSING SITUATION FOR UTD ON CAMPUS HOUSING HAS BEEN UNTENABLE FOR YEARS NOW. I KNOW WHEN I APPLIED TO ON CAMPUS HOUSING IN MY, UM, IN MY SOPHOMORE YEAR, I WAS NOT ABLE TO GET INTO ON-CAMPUS HOUSING. AND THE WAY THE WAIT LISTS ARE WORKING RIGHT NOW IS THAT IF YOU DON'T GET INTO ON-CAMPUS HOUSING IN YOUR SOPHOMORE YEAR, YOU COULD CONSIDER YOURSELF OUT OF THE ON-CAMPUS HOUSING SITUATION AND YOU HAVE TO GO OFF CAMPUS. THERE SIMPLY ISN'T THE CAPACITY AND IT'S SIMPLY THE WAIT LISTS ARE SIMPLY TOO HIGH FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO LUCK IN AND GET A UNIT IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE NOT ACCEPTED IN YOUR SOPHOMORE YEAR. AND BECAUSE OF THAT, I'VE BEEN LIVING IN OFF-CAMPUS HOUSING THROUGHOUT ALL OF MY COLLEGE CAREER. I RECENTLY GRADUATED IN MAY OF 2024 AND DURING THAT TIME I'VE LIVED IN MANY OFF-CAMPUS UNITS. I'VE EVEN BRIEFLY RENTED A ROOM IN A SINGLE FAMILY HOME THAT SOMEONE OFFERED FOR STUDENTS. AND A LOT OF STUDENTS OTHER THAN ME, FOR INSTANCE, HAVE HAD TO LIVE IN MORE FURTHER AWAY FROM RICHARDSON OR EVEN IN THE AREA. SOME GO DOWN AS FAR AS FRISCO, EVEN MCKINNEY. AND IT JUST GOES TO SHOW THAT THIS HOUSING SITUATION HERE IS JUST GETTING REALLY UNTENABLE. AND AS FAR AS TOD GOES, THIS IS THE FUTURE SILVER LINE STATION. WE ARE GOING TO BUILD AN IMMENSE AMOUNT OF DEVELOPMENT HERE AND JUST PUTTING MORE DENSITY HERE, PUTTING MORE PEOPLE, MORE RETAIL, MORE THINGS TO DO FOR UTD STUDENTS BECAUSE SOMETIMES THE COM COM, THE COMMON COMPLAINT AMONG UTD STUDENTS IS THAT IT FEELS LIKE A LITTLE WALL IN A SURROUNDED BY SIX LANE ROADS. YOU MAY HAVE HEARD THAT THERE'S JUST ROADS ALL AROUND THERE. IT'S TO THE SOUTH AND TO THE EAST. THERE'S A LOT OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. SOMETIMES THEY'RE NOT A LOT TO DO. IF YOU'RE JUST WANTING TO STAY ON CAMPUS AND BUILDING THIS RETAIL BUILDING. THIS HOUSING WILL ALLEVIATE BOTH OF THESE CONDITIONS AND IT'LL HELP PROMOTE US AS A GOOD USAGE OF OUR DART FUNDING AND OUR, OUR DART INFRASTRUCTURE TO BE ABLE TO INTEGRATE EVERYTHING TOGETHER IN SUCH A COHESIVE DEVELOPMENT. THANK YOU. ANDREW LASKA. HELLO, ANDREW LASKA, 5 0 2 HYDE PARK. UM, SAM, COULD YOU BRING UP THEIR PRESENTATION, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE SLIDES WITH THE WHAT YOU NEED? WHICH SIDE DO YOU WANT? THE SLIDE THAT'S AT THE STREET LEVEL. THAT ONE. THANK YOU. UM, I'M GONNA ADDRESS THAT PICTURE IN JUST A SECOND. UM, THANKS FOR LISTENING TO MY COMMENTS. OBVIOUSLY I'M FULLY IN FAVOR OF 24 0 8. I WANNA TAKE A DIFFERENT TACT HERE THAN THE, WHAT WE'VE HEARD FROM THE STUDENTS. I DON'T WANNA TALK ABOUT MINIMUMS OR UNIT COUNTS OR ANY OF THAT, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT OF COURSE. BUT MY SUBSTANCE OF MY COMMENTS ARE DIFFERENT. WE SET, WE SEE SITE PLANS, [02:50:01] WE SEE VIEWS, WE SEE THESE AERIAL VIEWS, NOT IN THIS SHOT, BUT OTHERS, RIGHT? BUT THESE DON'T REALLY TELL THE ABOUT THE PROPOSAL FROM THE HUMAN SCALE, FROM THE DESIGN SCALE. AND SO IN MY CPC COMMENTS, I SAID THIS WAS A UNIQUE PROJECT AND I MEANT IT. I MEAN, WE HEAR THAT A A LOT AND SOMETIMES IT'S TRUE . MANY TIMES IT'S NOT. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT TO UNDERSTAND THE UNIQUENESS, I WANNA DISCUSS THINGS IN TERMS OF THE HUMAN SCALE. WE DON'T TALK ENOUGH ABOUT DESIGN AND WE DON'T TALK ENOUGH ABOUT URBAN DESIGN. AND HERE WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S OUTSTANDING IN THOSE AREAS. AND FREQUENTLY PROPOSALS IN THIS COUNCIL ARE NOT OUTSTANDING IN THOSE AREAS. THEY MAY BE GOOD ENOUGH, BUT THEY'RE NOT OUTSTANDING. AND I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE OF MEETING SOME OF THE MEMBERS OF THE TEAM AT GENSLER WHEN I WAS, HAD TO VISIT GENSLER ABOUT AN ENTIRELY UNRELATED PROPOSAL. AND THE TEAM YOU HAVE AT GENSLER IS THOUGHTFUL AND THEY'RE EXTREMELY TALENTED. I ENJOYED BEING, UM, PERHAPS THE LEAST SMART PERSON IN THE ROOM. AND THEY'RE NOT JUST CHECKING BOXES. SO, SO THE HUMAN EXPERIENCE, OKAY, FOLKS IN THIS PICTURE CAN BE STUDENTS. THEY COULD BE HOTEL OCCUPANTS. UH, THEY COULD VISIT THIS RETAIL HERE ON FOOT. THEY CAN CROSS WATERVIEW TOWARDS THE CAMPUS ON FOOT BY BIKE, ELECTRIC BIKE, SKATEBOARD. THEY CAN GET TO THE RAIL, THEY CAN GET TO UTD. THEY CAN WALK ALL THE WAY TO THE RAIL. AT THE RAIL. THEY CAN GET ACCESS TO A MAJOR INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT CITY LINE. THEY CAN GET TO DOWNTOWN PLANO, THEY CAN GET TO DOWNTOWN DALLAS. THEY GO TO THE EISMAN CENTER, THEY CAN GO TO MAVERICKS, GAME STARS GAMES AT THE AA CENTER, UH, THEY CAN ACCESS UTD, WHICH IS UNIVERSITY THAT IS ON ITS WAY UP. AND I'M NOT JUST ROOTING FOR THE HOME TEAM. I HAVE A DAUGHTER THAT'S ABOUT TO BE A SENIOR AND I'VE LOOKED AT THE UNIVERSITIES. UTD IS ON, ITS, IS IN AN UPWARD TRAJECTORY, AND WE SHOULD BE PROUD OF THAT. EVERYTHING THEY BRAG ABOUT IS BASICALLY TRUE. UM, AND UM, THEY CAN, IF THEY HAPPEN TO BE AT UTD, THEY CAN HOP ON THE 8 83 BUS, GO OVER TOWARDS, UM, TOM THUMB AT RENTER, RIGHT? HOP BACK ON THE BUS, UM, AND GET BACK. SO LET'S TAKE A DIFFERENT VIEW. OKAY? OH, ONE MORE THING. THEY COULD, AS AN AIRPORT, AS A STUDENT, GET, GO TO THE AIRPORT, GO HOME TO VISIT STATE IN THE STATE, OUTTA STATE, EVEN INTERNATIONALLY. OKAY. AND LET'S TAKE ANOTHER VIEW. A NON-STUDENT COULD LAND A DFW, TAKE THE SILVER LINE, ARRIVE AT THE UTD STATION, GO TO THE HOTEL, AND GO TO THE UNIVERSITY, FOR EXAMPLE, IF THAT WAS THEIR PURPOSE. AND, AND SO WE HAVE THIS, 'CAUSE WE HAVE A CROSSING AT RUTHFORD. AND THAT WILL CREATE THIS AND BE PAID FOR. WE HAVE, UH, ACROSS THE DART LINE AND THE SIGNALING AT WATERVIEW. AND ALL OF THOSE WILL CALM TRAFFIC. AND WHAT I'VE DESCRIBED HAS ONE THING IN COMMON. IT CAN ALL BE DONE WITHOUT EVER GETTING BEHIND THE WHEEL OF AN AUTOMOBILE. AND THAT'S LIKE ONE OF THE ONLY PLACES IN THIS CITY WHERE THIS CAN OCCUR. IT'S PREPOSTEROUSLY UNIQUE. IT MAY BE UNIQUE IN THE METROPLEX TO HAVE THE UNIVERSITY IN ALL THIS, IN, IN SUCH A BINDING. AND SHOULD WE BUILD OUT THE OPPOSITE SIDE WITH THE PROPOSAL THAT THIS COUNCIL'S ALREADY PROPOSED, IT'LL BE HARMONIOUS. AND SO IN THOSE, AND THAT THE MASSING ON EACH SIDE WILL SERVE TO CALM TRAFFIC ON WATERVIEW. AND, UM, LET'S COMPARE THIS QUICKLY TO ANOTHER, UH, A DEVELOPMENT ALREADY APPROVED. AND THAT'S THE ONE AT GLENVILLE AND WATER WOOD. OH, YOU KNOW, SORT OF IN TELECOM CARRIER AREA, I GUESS. UH, 1.6 MILES FROM A GROCERY STORE, 0.8 MILES FROM A CONVENIENCE STORE, 0.6 MILES FROM THE NEAREST RESTAURANT. AND NONE OF THOSE THINGS ARE CLOSE TO EACH OTHER. AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE, RIGHT? IT'S TOTALLY, TOTALLY AUTOMOBILE DEPENDENT. ALL OF THIS SPEAKS TO, BY THE WAY, A LOWER PARKING RATIO BECAUSE STUDENTS WILL BE WALKING, THE STUDENTS WANNA WALK, THEY'RE GONNA WALK. WE DON'T NEED THIS HIGH A PARKING RATIO BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA DO ALL THIS STUFF AND PARKING COSTS TENS OF THOUSANDS PER SPACE. SO IT MAKES THE PROJECT POSSIBLY MORE SUCCESSFUL. AND LASTLY, WITH MY LAST 25 SECONDS, I WANNA DISCUSS THE SHUTTLE. I SPENT TWO WEEKS IN JAPAN. I WALKED TO RETAIL TRANSIT BUSES AND TRAINS, OTHER HOUSING GROCERS, LAUNDRY RESTAURANTS, AND A NUMBER OF OTHER THINGS. IT WAS HOT AND HUMID. EVERYONE WAS SWEATING. THE DISTANCES ARE LONGER THAN THIS AND EVERYBODY DID IT RIGHT? SO THE IDEA OF A SHUTTLE JUST DIDN'T MAKE ANY SENSE. IT WOULD BE MUCH EASIER TO WALK, IN FACT, RATHER THAN TAKE WAIT FOR A SHUTTLE AND DO IT. 'CAUSE THE DISTANCES WERE EVEN LONGER THERE. UM, SO TOTALLY IN FAVOR OF IT. THAT'S MY REASONS. THANKS. OUR LAST SPEAKER IS ADRIAN LEWIS. THANK YOU. I AM ADRIAN LEWIS. I LIVE AT 1735 PARK TRAILS BOULEVARD, PRINCETON, TEXAS. UM, I WANT TO BRIEFLY ADDRESS THE POINT ABOUT ENROLLMENT GOING DOWN. UM, PREVIOUS STUDENTS HAVE ALREADY COVERED THE PART ABOUT THERE ALREADY BEING A WAIT LIST FOR HOUSING. IT'S ALREADY VERY DIFFICULT TO [02:55:01] GET IT. UM, REGARDING THE ENROLLMENT NUMBERS SPECIFICALLY, THERE IS A NATIONWIDE TEMPORARY DECREASE IN ENROLLMENT DUE TO COVID-19. I BELIEVE IT'S DOWN ABOUT 6% OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS. IT'S BELIEVED THAT THOSE NUMBERS WILL REBOUND BACK UP AGAIN ONCE FINANCIAL EFFECTS START SETTLING BACK IN. UM, SOME STUDENT HOUSING ON CAMPUS IS BEING TORN DOWN RIGHT NOW, AND IT'S NOT ENTIRELY CLEAR WHEN THE REPLACEMENT BUILDINGS WILL COME IN. AND FINALLY, THE COLLEGE IS CURRENTLY BUILDING A NEW STUDENT UNION AND SUCCESS CENTER, WHICH WILL INCREASE ITS ATTRACTIVENESS FOR PROSPECTIVE STUDENTS. SO I BELIEVE WE WILL SEE AN UPTICK IN ENROLLMENT COMING AGAIN VERY SOON. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL THE, UH, PUBLIC SPEAKING. ALRIGHT. I'LL BE ENTERTAINING A MOTION. ENC CLOSE. MR. HUTCHIN WRITER. MAYOR, IF THERE'S NO OTHER SPEAKERS, I'D MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. THANK YOU. YOU GOT A SECOND, MR. SANCHO? SECOND. MOTION IS SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR OF CLOSING OF A CLEARING PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. AT THIS TIME WE'LL GO, COUNSEL, WE HAVE FURTHER, UH, DISCUSSION, UH, OR TAKE ON A MOTION. MR. SCHUEL, CAN I, CAN I ASK A QUESTION? UH, YES. BEFORE THAT I KNOW WE, UH, WE JUST RECENTLY HAD THAT BICYCLE PARKING ORDINANCE, SO WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT ON THIS ONE. SO I'M SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT THING COVERED, RIGHT? IS QUESTION FOR SAM? YES, SIR. IT JUST COVERED IN THE, IN THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE. AND, UH, THEY GOT, YOU KNOW, CREDIT FOR THAT, HAVING THE, YOU KNOW, ON THE PARKING RATIO 'CAUSE OF THAT THEY ACTUALLY HAVE MORE, UH, BICYCLE PARKING RACKS THAN THE, THAN THE CODE WOULD REQUIRE. BUT EVEN, BUT EVEN IF IT, EVEN IF THAT CONDITION WASN'T IN THE CODE, THEY WOULD STILL HAVE TO ABIDE BY THE, UH, BY THE ORDINANCE WE JUST ADOPTED, RIGHT? WITH DOES. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MR. DORIAN. THANK YOU. UH, I KNOW THIS IS JUST FOR DISCUSSION, BUT I JUST WANT TO PUT IT OUT ON THE TABLE FOR COUNSEL AND FOR EVERYONE IN, IN THE EVENT THAT WE ARE GENERATING MORE WALKABLE TRAFFIC AND, UH, SCOOTERS, ET CETERA, AND TO CONSIDER AS A POSSIBILITY IF WE WERE TO REDUCE SOME OF THE PARKING AND INCREASED POTENTIALLY SOME OF THE RETAIL. I THINK I MENTIONED THAT IN THE VERY BEGINNING. AND THAT MIGHT, COULD, COULD CREATE A BALANCE, UM, IN THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, UH, BY GENERALLY REDUCING SOME OF THOSE UNITS. THAT'S JUST MY, I WANT TO PUT THAT OUT ON THE TABLE. WELL, SAM, SAM, IF BY REDUCING PARKING, IF WE GO WITH WHAT CURTIS IS STATING, HOW MUCH RETAIL COULD WE GAIN? I MEAN, THEY'VE TAKEN 5,000 OUT. SO DOES IT, DO WE REALLY RECAPTURE IT IN THOSE SPACES? I GUESS, I GUESS THAT'S MY QUESTION, MAYOR. I THINK PERHAPS ASK THE APPLICANT TO COME BACK TO MY QUESTION. OKAY, BARRY, THANK YOU. WE NEED TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. ARE YOU? THANK YOU. I'M SORRY. UH, JUST RE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED. HE'S THE APPLICANT. OH YEAH. HEY, LET ME, LET ME JUST KIND OF REITERATE, 'CAUSE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS AS OUR TEAM A MINUTE AGO. THE, THE NUMBERS THAT YOU'RE SEEING ARE MINIMUMS. SO THOSE, THOSE RETAIL AREAS THAT YOU'RE SEEING ARE MINIMUMS. IF, YOU KNOW THERE'S A VIBRANCY AND A ROBUSTNESS THAT HAPPENS OVER TIME, SAM, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANYTHING AGAINST US DOING MORE, RIGHT? NO, SIR. OKAY. SO WITHOUT REALLY STUDYING AND VISITING WITH THE LEASING PEOPLE, IT'D BE HARD FOR US TO SAY WHAT YOU COULD GO UP TO, YOU KNOW, TONIGHT. BUT WE'D LIKE TO KEEP THE MINIMUMS IN THERE. AND TRUST ME, DEVELOPERS ARE IN BUSINESS TO MAKE MONEY. IF THEY CAN GET MORE LEASING THERE IN THE LONG HAUL AND CREATE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT MORE URBAN VIBE AT THE STREET LEVEL, THEY WILL DO THAT. UM, IT IS WORTH LOWERING THE PARKING COUNTS. AGAIN, THOSE ARE MINIMUMS, YOU KNOW, THE DEVELOPERS WILL BUILD WHAT THE MARKET REQUIRES THEM TO BUILD. WHAT WE'RE SHOWING IN THAT CHART IS REALLY JUST A MINIMUM. BUT I WANNA CLARIFY THAT, SAM, WE'RE SHOWING A REQUIRED, DOES THE REQUIRED BECOME, I'M SORRY, DOES THE PROVIDED BECOME CODIFIED OR IS IT JUST THE MINIMUMS? THE MINIMUM WOULD BE CODIFIED. OKAY. SO WHEN WE'RE SAYING 0.8, THAT'S REALLY THE MINIMUM THAT'S REQUIRED. THE DEVELOPER WILL BUILD WHAT HE HAS TO BUILD TO BE COMPETITIVE. AND WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF CITIES MOVE THAT DIRECTION. A LOT OF CITIES ARE DROPPING PARKING REQUIREMENTS ALTOGETHER. WE'VE SEEN THE CITY OF DALLAS DO THAT IN CERTAIN ZONES. THE CITY OF FORT WORTH IS DROPPED PARKING REQUIREMENTS IN DOWNTOWN AUSTIN. AND MANY AREAS OF AUSTIN HAS NO PARKING REQUIREMENTS. AND WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS YOU'RE BUILDING IN A DENSITY. YOU'RE BRINGING DENSITY BY DOING THAT. AND, UH, SO ANYWAY, IF WE COULD REVISIT THE [03:00:01] MINIMUMS ON PARKING, WE'D BE VERY HAPPY TO DO THAT TONIGHT. AND I'M NOT SURE WHO BROUGHT IT UP. MAYBE IT WAS YOU, COUNCILMAN DORIAN, MR. OR YOU, MR. BARRIOS. IF YOU, IF YOU NURTURE A PEDESTRIAN ENVIRONMENT, THAT'S WHAT YOU'LL GET. IF YOU NURTURE A CAR ENVIRONMENT, THAT'S WHAT YOU'LL GET. AND THINKING BACK TWO YEARS AGO WHEN WE STARTED ALL THIS, THE ROUNDS I WAS INVOLVED IN, WE FELT LIKE BASED ON, AND I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THIS SLIDE IN OUR DECK TONIGHT, BUT WE HAD ABOUT TWO DOZEN CASE STUDIES OF OTHER STUDENT HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS AROUND THE NATION. AND EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM WAS LOWER THAN WHAT WE WERE PROPOSING. WE WERE PROPOSING 0.8 BECAUSE WE WERE TRYING TO MAKE IT PALATABLE TO THE CITY OF RICHARDSON. WE DON'T THINK IT'S REQUIRED. THAT'S ME AS A PROFESSIONAL SPEAKING, WE DON'T THINK IT'S REQUIRED. WE WERE TRYING TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT WE FELT LIKE WOULD BE A BALANCE BETWEEN ALL OF US. YEAH. AND, AND BARRY, I APPRECIATE THAT TOO. AND I, AND I AGREE THAT IF YOU DESIGN AND BUILD A PLACE FOR LESS VEHICLES AND CREATE MORE OF A PEDESTRIAN ATMOSPHERE, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET. RIGHT? SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IN THE EVENT THAT WE DO MOVE FORWARD, UM, WITH AN APPROVAL OR, OR DENIAL THAT MAYBE WE HAVE SOME LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT, YOU KNOW, HAS THAT AS AN OPTION. SO THERE'S A CONSIDERATION IN THAT PROCESS TO, YOU KNOW, CHANGE THAT VARIATION OF UNITS VERSUS WHAT'S ON THE FIRST LEVEL AND HAVE THAT, I JUST, I WANT TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. SURE. AND, AND HOPEFULLY REBALANCE THAT RETAIL AREA. YOU KNOW, THE RETAIL AT NORTH SIDE HAS DONE BETTER THAN A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE INDUSTRY THOUGHT IT WOULD. UH, BUT IT, IT GOES TO SHOW YOU THAT ONCE YOU GET ENOUGH BODIES ON THE GROUND, THE SANDWICH SHOPS AND THE COFFEE SHOPS AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, IT'S GONNA GO MM-HMM. , UH, A LOT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICE AROUND THE CITY IS KIND OF THIN AND GOT FOR LEASE SIGNS BECAUSE MOST OF OUR CITY IS BUILT ON A VERY VEHICULAR FORMAT. UM, BARRY, PERHAPS YOU CAN EXPLAIN WHY THE PROPOSAL IS TO PROVIDE 0.94 WHEN ONLY 0.8 IS REQUIRED. IF YOU'RE SUGGESTING THAT YOU WOULD BE, UH, OPEN TO GOING DOWN BELOW 0.8. WELL, I DON'T KNOW THAT I'LL, I'LL LET MICHAEL SPEAK TO HOW LOW HE WANTS TO GO, BUT I THINK WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS WE COULD PUT A LOWER MINIMUM IN. HE'S GONNA BUILD WHAT HE NEEDS TO BE COMPETITIVE. BUT THERE'S A REASON THERE, THERE'S A REASON THE APPLICANT SAID 0.94. WELL, THAT'S WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO GET UP TO IN THOSE CURRENT DIAGRAMS THAT WE PRESENTED. THE FACADES AND THE PLANS WILL SUPPORT 503 SPACES, WHICH IS 28 MORE THAN WHAT, WHAT YOU SAY SAW WE HAD IN 2022. BUT AGAIN, I NEED SAM TO CONFIRM WHAT IS REQUIRED IS THE 0.8. IS THAT RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. AND THE REASON WE WENT TO A 0.8 AS OPPOSED TO ANYTHING LOWER IS BECAUSE THE, THE SURROUNDING EXISTING DEVELOPMENT IS ALL OFFICE. SO IF THEY MISS THE MARK AND THEY NEED MORE PARKING, WE'RE GONNA START TO GET COMPLAINTS FROM THE ADJACENT BUSINESSES. WE'VE GOT A MEDICAL CLINIC TO THE, TO THE NORTH TO THE SOUTH, AND THEN A LARGE OFFICE DEVELOPMENT, UH, TO THE WEST. SO WHERE ARE THOSE STUDENTS GONNA PARK? IF THEY EXCEED THE MINIMUM, THEY'RE GONNA START PARKING THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES. YEAH, WE CAN HANDLE IT THROUGH A CODE ENFORCEMENT EFFORT, BUT WHY CREATE THAT, THAT SITUATION? AND NO, AND I, I UNDERSTAND AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. UM, BUT AGAIN, MOST OF THE STUDENTS ARE MOST LIKELY NOT GOING TO HAVE VEHICLES, THE MAJORITY OF THEM. BUT AGAIN, I JUST WANNA PUT IT OUT THERE. I THINK IT WAS KIND OF IMPORTANT TO KNOW, 'CAUSE THE RATIO OF PARKING INCREASED AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE APPLICANT AND DEVELOPER UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION. I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY NOW THAT THE USE IS BEING CHANGED BEFORE. I THINK TO THAT POINT IT MADE SENSE FOR THE PARKING, BUT SINCE THIS IS GONNA BE STUDENT DRIVEN NOW, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T, WE DON'T, WE'RE NOT GONNA REQUIRE AS MUCH. AND, AND WE DO WANT IT MORE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY. WELL COUNCILMAN, WE, WE ARE REQUIRING LESS THAN BECAUSE OF THE CHANGE IN THE USE. IF YOU LOOK AT THE CHART, IT'S 0.8 VERSUS ONE AND THEY'RE PROVIDING LESS 0.94 VERSUS 1.05. AND THAT DOES ACCOUNT FOR THE CHANGE IN USE. THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH. I MEAN, I'LL, I'LL JUST ADD ONE LAST POINT. I THINK SOMEONE SAID IT ACTUALLY EARLIER. A LOT OF THIS STUFF UNFORTUNATELY, IS DICTATED BY YOUR LENDING AND YOUR CAPITAL PARTNERS. AND DESPITE HOW LOGIC IT SEEMS, HOW LOGICAL IT SEEMS, AND HOW MUCH WE WOULD LOVE TO SPEND A LOT LESS ON STRUCTURED PARKING SPACES. YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE PROVIDING CAPITAL WHO SAY, NO, THIS IS WHAT WE THINK IS REQUIRED IN THE MARKET. AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S HOW WE GET FINANCING. SO [03:05:01] WE'RE, WE'RE ALWAYS FIGHTING THAT BATTLE. WE HAVE BEEN FIGHTING THAT BATTLE FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS IS LIKE THINGS HAS REALLY, YOU KNOW, GENERATIONS HAVE GOTTEN OLDER AND HAVE GOTTEN MORE TO RIDE SHARING, ET CETERA. BUT I MEAN, THE GAINESVILLE PROJECT'S A GREAT EXAMPLE. WE'RE LITERALLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM CAMPUS AND WE GET COMPLAINTS ALL THE TIME THAT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PARKING. LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, EVERY MARKET IS DIFFERENT, BUT THE IDEA IS THAT STUDENTS DON'T DRIVE THEIR CARS. BUT MOST STUDENTS HAVE A CAR AND THEY LOOK AT THAT AS A, A, BASICALLY A PARKING LOT DURING THE WEEK. THEY'LL USE IT ON THE WEEKENDS TO TRAVEL AND GO VISIT PARENTS OR GO OUT, ET CETERA. BUT I, I AM FULLY BEHIND THE IDEA OF THAT IF YOU CREATE A PEDESTRIAN'S SPACE, PEOPLE WON'T HAVE CARS. IF YOU'RE CLOSE TO A LOT OF CONVENIENCES AND AMENITIES, YOU DON'T NEED CARS. BUT I'VE JUST NEVER SEEN IT ACTUALLY COME TO FRUITION AND ON A LOT OF OUR PROJECTS. WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT AND I WAS ONLY TAKING THAT FROM THE STUDENTS ALSO. 'CAUSE MOST OF THEM MADE COMMENTS THAT THEY DON'T HAVE VEHICLES. SO AGAIN, I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT ON THE TABLE AND MAKE SURE EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MR. BARRIOS. I BELIEVE YOU WERE NEXT. UH, THANK YOU MAYOR. UM, I KIND OF WANTED JUST TO, UH, COUNCILMAN DORIAN'S POINT. UM, I, I UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT WE'RE REQUIRE AND WHAT THEY'RE PROVIDING AND OBVIOUSLY THERE'S OTHER FACTORS, UH, THEY NEED TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION. I WOULD ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT A, UH, ONE THIS PROJECT OVERALL, I, I SUPPORT. I THINK IT'S MUCH NEEDED. I THINK IT ADDS COMPETITION, GIVES PEOPLE OPTIONS. BRING SOME OF THAT REVENUE THAT'S GOING TO THE WEST SIDE OF COY INTO DALLAS, BACK INTO RICHARDSON, UH, MAYBE EVEN FREE UP, UH, SOME SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN THAT GREENWOOD HILLS AREA. UH, ALLOW SOME FAMILIES ACTUALLY MOVING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE JUST HAD THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, THAT SCHOOLS HAVE CLOSED DOWN THIS SPRING. 'CAUSE A LACK OF FAMILIES MOVING IN. ALL THOSE HOUSES ARE BECOMING MORE AND MORE RENTALS TO, UH, THESE GRAD STUDENTS. SO THAT'S DEFINITELY A PIECE OF THAT I WOULD ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT LOWERING THE PARKING MINIMAL. UM, NOW OBVIOUSLY IF THEY HAVE REASONS THEY NEED TO KEEP THAT UP 'CAUSE INVESTORS OR WHATEVER MARKET DEMANDS, THAT'S ONE THING. BUT THEN THEY COULD ALSO, IF IT DIDN'T DEMAND THAT THEY COULD BUILD THAT PARKING SPOT AND MAYBE WITHOUT THE MINIMAL PARKING, THAT WOULD ALLOW THEM THE FLEXIBILITY TO DO MORE HANGING BIKE RACKS. 'CAUSE I, WHILE THEY, THEY'RE PROVIDING A BUNCH OF BIKE RACKS, UH, AND BIKE, UH, STORAGE, UH, THE, THE MARKET MAY ACTUALLY DEMAND MORE OF THAT. SO I THINK BY LOWERING THE PARKING MINIMUM, WE'RE GIVING THEM SOME FLEXIBILITY IN THE MARKET TO ADJUST TO, TO THE DEMAND OF, UH, YOU KNOW, BUILD THE, BUILD IT IF IT'S REQUIRED OF THEM BY THEIR FINANCES. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, OR WHEN THEY'RE THINKING OF FUTURE, WHATEVER THEY WANNA DO WITH THE PROPERTY IN THE FUTURE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, GIVE 'EM THAT FLEXIBILITY TO, UH, PUT IN BIKE RACKS TO WHERE SENATE PARKING MAY BE AND ALLOW THEM, UH, THE ABILITY TO ADJUST THE MARKET. MR. CORCORAN. YEAH. UM, I GENERALLY AGREE, BUT, YOU KNOW, JUST FOR, FOR SOME CONTEXT, GOING DOWN TO SAY 0.7, A BED IS 54 SPACES LESS AT 374. I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THE RISK OF MAYBE NOT ENOUGH PARKING TO SUPPORT THE ADJACENT RETAIL OR PARKING SPILLING OVER TO THE OTHER OFFICES IS, IS REALLY WORTH IT TO GO DOWN ANY LESS THAN THAT. I MEAN, IN PRINCIPLE, EVERYONE KNOWS I'VE ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT LESS PARKING, BUT IF THEY GET IT WRONG, I DON'T THINK THAT FOR SOME REASON OR FOR SOME REASON DEMAND CHANGE AND MORE STUDENTS START LIVING THERE WITH CARS ONE YEAR. I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, YOU REALLY CAN'T GO BACK NECESSARILY. AND SO, YOU KNOW, TO THAT, TO THAT POINT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER DORIAN, I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA IF WE, IF WE'RE A LITTLE BIT CAUTIOUS WITH IT, A LITTLE BIT, MAYBE MORE CONSERVATIVE ON HOW MUCH WE CUT MM-HMM. I'M FINE WITH THAT. BUT I, I WOULDN'T GO DOWN ANY LESS THAN THAT AND I WON'T BE IN FAVOR OF ANY LESS THAN THAT. MAYOR PRO TIM, JUST, UH, JUST ANOTHER COMMENT. YEAH, I MEAN THESE ARE, THESE ARE THE THINGS I THINK THE OWNER DEVELOPER HAS ALREADY MENTIONED THAT, YOU KNOW, MARKET CONDITION DICTATE, DICTATE. BUT FOR US, IF WE WANT TO GIVE SOME MESSAGE TO OUTSIDE THAT WE ARE OKAY HAVING LOWER NUMBER OF PARKING, WE CAN JUST PUT THE OPTION THERE THAT YEAH, YOU CAN GO LESS THAN WHAT YOU HAVE, BUT PROBABLY NOT, PROBABLY THEY WILL BUILD WHATEVER THEY NEED. I THINK THAT 503 CAME FROM SOMEWHERE THAT DID NOT REALLY LOOK THAT NUMBER, UH, JUST TO SATISFY THE COUNCIL. I THINK THAT CAME FROM, AS THAT WAS A BUSINESS DECISION AND MOST LIKELY BUNCH OF PARKING SPOT WILL, WILL STAY EMPTY. I HAVE BEEN IN A PLACE THAT WAS BUILT WITH ENOUGH PARKING AND UH, AND I SEE THAT MOST OF THE TIME, LIKE 70% STAYS EMPTY. I OWN ONE OF THE CONDO IN ONE PLACE AND THE PARKING GARAGE STAYS PRETTY MUCH OPEN, EMPTY [03:10:01] ALL THE TIME. SO ANYWAY, I MEAN THE BUSINESS RISK, IF YOU, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO TAKE, I THINK I, I DON'T MIND GIVING FLEXIBILITY TO THE DEVELOPER WITH LOWER NUMBER OF PARKING, BUT ABSOLUTELY IF WE CAN INCREASE THE SUPPLY AND THEN THAT'S HOW WE CAN GET THE AFFORDABILITY. UH, SO THANK YOU MR. MAGNER, WERE YOU GONNA SAY SOMETHING? UH, I, I, YEAH. SO, UM, I I, I VERY MUCH HEAR THE SPIRIT OF WHAT THE COUNCIL IS SAYING, BUT I'M GONNA SUGGEST THAT THERE'S A GOOD BIT OF SCIENCE, AND I THINK EVEN THE APPLICANT WOULD AGREE WITH THIS. THERE'S A GOOD BIT OF SCIENCE THAT GOES INTO A PARKING ANALYSIS. AND I WOULD SUGGEST THAT IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN REDUCING THE NUMBER, RATHER THAN JUST KIND OF, UM, PICKING A 0.5 OR A 0.7 FOR INSTANCE, THAT WE ACTUALLY, UH, STUDY THE ISSUE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET IT RIGHT. NOW, I KNOW WHAT THE APPLICANT'S GONNA SAY AND THE APPLICANT IS NOT GONNA WANNA WAIT ON THAT. SO WE COULD WRITE INTO, UM, UM, IF THIS IS A DIRECTION YOU WANT TO GO, WE COULD WRITE INTO THE ORDINANCE THAT BETWEEN NOW AND UM, BEFORE, UM, THE BUILDING PERMIT WOULD BE ISSUED THAT THE APPLICANT HAS, IF THEY WANNA REDUCE THE BEYOND THE 0.8, THEY HAVE TO DO AN UPDATED PARKING, UM, STUDY FOR US. AND THEN IF THAT, IF WE, IF STAFF AGREES AND WE CAN COME TO SOME KIND OF A CONCURRENCE YEAH, THEN WE CAN DO THAT. BUT I, I I, I THINK JUST PICKING A NUMBER, BECAUSE IT SOUNDS RIGHT OR BECAUSE WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, A A VISITOR SUGGESTED IT KIND OF, UM, INVALIDATES THE SCIENCE BEHIND WHAT, WHAT, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY DOES TO TRY TO BETTER APPRECIATE THE RIGHT, THE RIGHT NUMBER. AND I, I JUST WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE TAKE THAT ROUTE OR AT LEAST YOU CONSIDER THAT ROUTE RATHER THAN JUST CHANGING IT TONIGHT. YEAH, PERFECT. THAT'S PERFECT. NOT A PROBLEM. MR. HUTCHIN RIDER, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE? JOE, GO AHEAD. NO, I WOULD JUST SAY THAT, UH, MR. MAGNER, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE WITH THE, THE SPIRIT OF THAT. AND AS LONG AS, YOU KNOW, WHEN IN ASSESSING THAT RIGHT, STAFF FOLLOWS THE SPIRIT OF, OF COUNSEL SAYING, HEY, MAYBE WITH THIS SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT SPECIFIC UNIT TYPE, WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO HAVE THE SAME STANDARDS AS A GENERIC DEPARTMENT. BUT THAT'S, THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THE STUDY FOR SURE. RIGHT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. OKAY. MR. HUTCHEN WRIGHT, ARE YOU WILLING TO, SO IF THERE'S NO OTHER DISCUSSION, I'D BE PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION. HOLD TIGHT. I I'D LIKE TO ASK ONE QUESTION IF I COULD GO RIGHT AHEAD. AND THIS HAS PROBABLY BEEN ANSWERED IN THE PAST. UM, AND I THINK A COUPLE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WERE HERE 18 MONTHS AGO OR SO WILL REMEMBER THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT I EVER REALLY GOT AN ANSWER FOR IT, IS WHY MUST WE LIST THIS AND PROJECT IT AS STUDENT HOUSING? AND I, AND I GUESS THE REASON I'M ASKING THAT MM-HMM, IS BECAUSE IT APPEARS TO ME THAT THE INSTITUTION, THE COLLEGE, UT DALLAS HAS A HAND IN IT OR IS RESPONSIBLE FOR IT IN SOME SHAPE, FORM, OR FASHION. AND I KNOW THAT THAT'S NOT TRUE. AND SO I'M JUST, I'M JUST ASKING THE QUESTION, HOW IS THAT IT TO ME, IT'S MISLEADING IS ALL. I'VE GOTTA SAY, IF I LIVE IN CONNECTICUT AND MY CHILD WANTS TO COME HERE AND THEY'RE GONNA HAVE STUDENT HOUSING AND I'M THOUSANDS OF MILES AWAY, I THINK THAT, I WOULD THINK THAT THE COLLEGE WOULD HAVE SOME OVERVIEW OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN THAT LIVING QUARTERS. AND OBVIOUSLY THAT DOESN'T, RIGHT? SO THAT, THAT BOTHERS ME AS A PARENT OR AS A GRANDPARENT OR WHATEVER. AND SO I DON'T KNOW THAT I'VE EVER REALLY GOT THAT ANSWER WHY WE HAVE TO CALL IT STUDENT HOUSING. IT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY A GREAT QUESTION I'M HAVE TO DEFER TO SAM. WE CALL IT PURPOSE-BUILT STUDENT HOUSING. AND THAT IS JUST REALLY A BUILDING FORM OF HOW THE UNITS ARE LAID OUT. BUT SAM CAN ANSWER WHY IT'S DIFFERENT THAN JUST STANDARD MARKET RATE MULTIFAMILY. MR. HAN IS CORRECT. IT'S JUST A DESCRIPTION OF HOW THOSE UNITS ARE CONSTRUCTED. NOW, PER OUR ZONING ORDINANCE, THEY WOULD BE CONSIDERED APARTMENTS JUST AS ANY OTHER TYPE OF APARTMENT. BUT IN ORDER TO DEFINE HOW IT'S CONSTRUCTED INTERNALLY AND HOW THE UNITS ARE ARRANGED, WE ACTUALLY DEFINED STUDENT PURPOSE-BUILT APARTMENTS IN THE, UH, IN THE CURRENT, UH, PD REGULATIONS. SO IT'S A CONSTRUCTION TYPE OF FORM THAN IT IS, UH, THE ACTUAL USE. BUT THERE'S NO REGULATION ON HOW TO ADVERTISE WHAT THEY'RE RENTING? NO, SIR. OKAY. MS. MAYOR? NO, I, OKAY. MR. HUD WRIGHT, DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER COMMENT OR QUESTION? YEAH, I JUST WANT SOME CLARIFICATION ON MAYOR'S QUE ON MAYOR'S QUESTION. SO WILL THE NAME OF THE APARTMENTS HAVE THE WORD STUDENT HOUSING IN IT? I [03:15:01] DIDN'T SEE THAT IN LOOKING AT OTHER DEVELOPMENTS, I DIDN'T SEE THAT WORD. OR UNLESS I MISSED IT. 'CAUSE IT WAS A SMALL PRINT. WE DON'T TYPICALLY SEE THAT IN THE NAMES. THEY TEND TO TAKE ON MICHAEL OR YOU, OR Y'ALL WANNA ADDRESS THIS. THEY TYPICALLY TAKE ON THE SAME KIND OF BRANDING NAMES THAT OTHER APARTMENT COMPLEXES DO. UH, THE ONES THAT WE SH WE SHOWED IN THE, THE, UH, ASPIRATIONAL IMAGERY, THOSE ALL HAVE JUST NORMAL. I DON'T KNOW TALK ABOUT THAT. YES, NO, THAT'S RIGHT. UM, WE JUST COME UP WITH A BRAND, SO WE'LL GO THROUGH A BRANDING PROCESS, BUT WE DON'T NAME SOMETHING, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, GAINESVILLE EUPHORIA STUDENT APARTMENTS. IT'S JUST EUPHORIA OR ARROW ON 24TH OR YOU KNOW, NOBLE OR YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THE BRAND NAME WE COME UP WITH, WHICH IS THE WHOLE PROCESS IN ITSELF. WE DO MARKET THESE TO STUDENTS, BUT WE'RE NOT ADVERTISING THEM, YOU KNOW, BROADLY AS STUDENT HOUSING. UM, I SHOULDN'T SAY THAT. THEY ARE ADVERTISED AS STUDENT HOUSING. WE'RE ADVERTISING THEM TO STUDENTS FOR STUDENT HOUSING, BUT WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT BRANDING 'EM, THEY'RE NOT CALLED, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT HAVE ZERO AFFILIATION WITH UTD, SO THEY WON'T HAVE ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, UTD IN THE NAME. IT'S A COMPLETELY OFF CAMPUS, YOU KNOW, NON-AFFILIATED DEPARTMENT. SO DO YOU PUT THAT IN YOUR, IN YOUR, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU PUT OUT YOUR, YOUR ADVERTISING, DO YOU PUT IN THEY'RE NOT AFFILIATED WITH UTD? NO, WE USUALLY DON'T HAVE TO IN ANY MARKET. I MEAN, WE'RE, WE'RE HAPPY TO, BUT WE'VE NEVER HAD TO DO THAT IN ANY MARKET JUST BECAUSE THE HOUSING ON CAMPUS WILL BASICALLY DICTATE WHAT IS UTD HOUSING SOMETIMES IN, YOU KNOW, UH, OTHER MARKETS, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL HAVE A, UM, UM, UNIVERSITY SPONSORED OFF-CAMPUS HOUSING LIST, WHICH NOT EVERY UNIVERSITY DOES, BUT WE'LL HAVE OUR APARTMENTS LISTED ON THOSE. WE'LL PAY FOR ADVERTISEMENTS SO THAT ONCE YOU KNOW, THE UNIVERSITY'S HOUSING, THEY HAVE AN OFF-CAMPUS OPTION AS WELL THAT THEY'VE EFFECTIVELY ENDORSED JUST BECAUSE IT'S ON THEIR WEBSITE. SO FOR CLARIFICATION, ANYBODY CAN MOVE INTO THIS, EVEN IF THEY'RE NOT STUDENTS A ABSOLUTELY FAIR HOUSING, WE CAN'T FAIR HOUSING DISCRIMINATE AGAINST. THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY. MR. TREASURER RIDER. OKAY. IF THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, ZONING FILE 24 DASH EIGHT WITH THE TWO CONDITIONS BELOW. THERE ARE TWO CONDITIONS THAT ARE LISTED. THE DEVELOPER OWNER SHALL CONTRIBUTE UP TO 25% OF THE COST OF THE CONSTRUCTION OF A TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT THE FUTURE INTERSECTION OF WATERVIEW PARKWAY AND DRIVEWAY TWO AS DEPICTED ON THE CONCEPT PLAN. AND THE DEVELOPER OWNER SHALL INSTALL A RECTANGULAR RAPID FLASHING BEACON AT THE INTERSECTION AT WATERVIEW PARKWAY AND DRIVEWAY TWO AS SHOWN ON THE CONCEPT PLAN. AND A SIDEWALK SHALL BE INSTALLED ALONG THE SOUTH SIDE OF WATERVIEW PARKWAY EASTWARD TO THE PROPOSED DART DRIVEWAY LEADING TO THE DART STATION, AND THAT A TRAFFIC STUDY SHALL BE CONDUCTED AND AUTHORITY SHALL BE VESTED TO STAFF TO WORK OUT APPROPRIATE PARKING RATIO IF THEY WANNA REDUCE PARKING, IF THEY WANNA, IF THE DEVELOPER WANTS TO REDUCE PARKING. RIGHT. SO WE'LL SAY THAT. CAN I CAPTURE THAT? CAN I RESTATE IT? PLEASE BE MY GUEST. . SO, UH, THE, UH, 0.8 REQUIRED PARKING, UH, 0.8 PER BED REQUIRED PARKING WILL BE THE STANDARD THAT'S ADOPTED. IT'S SUBJECT TO AMENDMENT BY CITY STAFF UPON THE PRESENTATION OF A, UH, UPDATED PARKING STUDY BY THE APPLICANT. WHAT HE SAID IS. YEAH, THAT MAKES SENSE. SO, SO WE'VE GOT YOUR, YOUR MOTION WITH JUST ONE POINT OF CLARIFICATION. IS THE SHUTTLE REQUIRED OR NOT REQUIRED? IT, IT, I, I TOOK ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WERE, YES, EVERYTHING THAT'S IN A REQUIRED FILE WOULD BE REQUIRED, YEAH. OKAY. MR. SAM CHU, I SECOND IT. ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, JUST I HAVE A DISCUSSION. OKAY. DISCUSSION REAL QUICK, PLEASE DISCUSS. SO 0.1 UP HERE DOES NOT NEED TO BE INCLUDED IN THE MOTION. IT'S JUST TWO AND THREE. NO, COUNCIL. YEAH. COUNCILMAN SAID ONE, TWO, OR HE SAID EVERYTHING THAT WAS UP THERE, RIGHT? YEAH, WELL, I, YEAH, IT WAS, IT WAS THE ZONING FILE AS FILED, WHICH IS WHAT WAS SAID TO US. I SEE. AND THEN THE CONDITIONS THAT WE NEEDED TO ADD WERE TWO AND THREE. OKAY. I, SO YES, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT THE SHUTTLE NOT BE REQUIRED. WELL, MY MOTION ON THE FLOOR. YOU CAN'T DO THAT. YOU CAN AMEND IT. YOU HAVE TO, YOU WOULD HAVE, YOU WOULD HAVE TO TAKE THE VOTE ON THAT. IF, IF COUNCIL VOTED AGAINST IT, THEN YOU WOULD'VE TO REMAKE THAT MOTION. SO YOU CAN AMEND IT IF YOU WANT, ACTUALLY. BUT I HAVE TO ACCEPT THE AMENDMENT AND I WOULD NOT ACCEPT THAT AMENDMENT . OKAY. THAT'S ACCORDING TECHNICAL ANSWER. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND IT. WE HAVE A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? SHOW OF HANDS, PLEASE. ALL RIGHT. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY AS STATED. THANK YOU. YEAH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. OKAY, COUNSEL, THAT PLEASE. THAT BRINGS [11. CONSENT AGENDA] US TO ITEM 11, CONSENT. ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. AGENDA. I'D LIKE TO GET A MOTION, [03:20:01] MS. JUSTICE, MOVE TO APPROVE IT AS PUBLISHED AND MR. SHA SHUL, I SECOND IT GOT A MOTION TO SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. [12. REPORT ON ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST] THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM 12 REPORT ON ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST. ANYONE HAVE ANY INTERESTING STATEMENTS TONIGHT? UM, MR. HUTCHER RIDER, TWO THINGS. LAST TUESDAY, UM, THE BUSINESS COUNCIL OF THE CITY COUNCIL HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH ONE OF OUR DEVELOPERS, AND I AM TOTALLY DRAWN, DRAWN A BLANK ON THE NAME AT THE MOMENT. WOULD YOU HELP ME NOT SHOP BUCK WHEELER WITH THE SHOP COMPANIES? YES, BUCK WHEELER AND, UH, IT WAS MYSELF, UM, COUNCILWOMAN JUSTICE AND MAYOR PRO, TIM, UH, SHAEL, WHO, UM, ARE ON THAT COMMITTEE, HAD A GREAT PRESENTATION BY THEM TALKING ABOUT THE REALITIES OF RETAIL AT THIS POINT IN TIME. UM, MY WORD AND, AND FEEL FREE IF, IF, IF Y'ALL WANT TO USE THE DIFFERENT WORDS, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A RENAISSANCE BACK TO COMMUNITY, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD TYPE OF ESTABLISHMENTS THAT ARE, THAT ARE VERY MUCH SURROUNDED IN, IN THE COMMUNITY, THAT ARE SUPPORTED BY THE COMMUNITY, UM, UM, MOM AND POPS, OTHER THINGS ALONG THOSE LINES. SO IT WAS A QUITE A FASCINATING REPORT AND, AND REALLY APPRECIATED, UM, UH, DON AND MCKAYLA PUTTING THAT TOGETHER AND BRINGING THAT TO US BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS, UH, I THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY, REALLY GOOD ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE IDEA THAT IT'S, IT'S VERY MUCH BECOMING KIND OF THAT RENAISSANCE BACK TO THE IDEA OF HAVING THAT NEIGHBORHOOD CENTRIC TYPE OF APPROACH TO, TO, UM, TO RETAIL AND, AND, AND ALL THINGS IN THAT REALM. SO I WAS VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THAT. UM, SECOND THING I'LL MENTION, I'LL JUST MENTION IT REAL QUICK, AND THEN IF, IF, UM, COUNCILPERSON, UH, COUNCILWOMAN JUSTICE OR, OR MAYOR PRO TE WANT TO COMMENT, COMMENT ON THAT. UM, SECOND THING, JUST REAL QUICK IS SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY EXCITING THAT OCCURRED ON THURSDAY NIGHT, UM, HAD THE OPPORTUNITY, UM, AS A PART OF A CONSORTIUM, UM, WITH UTD AND CITY OF RICHARDSON FIRE DEPARTMENT EMS AND WITH OTHERS, UM, TO GRADUATE THE VERY FIRST PARAMEDIC CLASS FROM, AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I GET THIS WORDING CORRECT, SO I'M GONNA LOOK AT IT JUST REAL QUICK SO I DON'T, I DON'T MESS THIS UP. UM, IT IS THE, UM, UM, UM, UNIVER, UH, NORTH, LET'S SEE, UH, NORTH TEXAS PARAMEDIC EDUCATION CONSORTIUM THAT IS SET UP THROUGH, UM, UH, A LADY BY THE NAME OF SHEILA EL ELLIOT. UM, UTD, UM, METHODIST HEALTH SYSTEM AND, UM, CITY OF RICHARDSON. AND SO WE GRADUATED, I THINK IT WAS RIGHT AT 30 PARAMEDICS, UM, THAT ARE GONNA BE, UH, PROVIDING SERVICES TO OUR COMMUNITY. UM, IT'S REALLY UNIQUE, UM, BUT THE, THE, UH, PASS RATE WAS INCREDIBLY HIGH. IT WAS 98% PLUS. AND, UM, SO OVERALL JUST VERY, VERY PROUD TO BE A PART OF THAT. AND THEN ALSO VERY PROUD ABOUT OUR, OUR, UM, UM, UTILIZATION OF, AND, AND INCLUDING, UM, CURTIS POVY, OUR FIRE CHIEF AND, AND QUITE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE FROM, UH, CITY OF RICHARDSON FIRE DEPARTMENT INVOLVED IN THE PROGRAM. SO I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT AS WELL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MS. JUSTICE. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, MAYOR. I JUST WANNA ECHO, UH, COUNCILMAN HUTCHIN RIDER'S POINTS AND ALSO THANK SHOP AND, AND BUCK FOR THEIR REINVESTMENT, THEIR INVESTMENT IN RICHARDSON OVER AT PROMENADE. IT'S A GREAT, UM, UM, FACELIFT HAPPENING OVER THERE ALSO, UM, JUST REALLY CREATIVE, UM, THINGS ARE HAPPENING WHEN, UM, COUNCILS AND, UH, DEVELOPERS WORK TOGETHER. IF YOU LOOK AT HILLCREST VILLAGE AND SOME OF THE REALLY AMAZING STUFF THAT THEY DID OVER THERE, HE PRESENTED A LITTLE BIT ON THAT AND THE, THE REALLY UNIQUE OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE AVAILABLE. UM, SO I JUST ENCOURAGED THE COUNCIL TO SORT OF BE, UH, THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX, UH, AND OUR STAFF TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX WHEN IT COMES TO THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. 'CAUSE THAT'S A, A REALLY GREAT, UM, UH, ASSET OVER IN DALLAS NOW, UM, BASED ON THE, UM, YOU KNOW, ALL THE STARS ALIGNED TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. BUT I WOULD, I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO BE CREATIVE AND ENCOURAGE BUCK TO BE CREATIVE AND, AND OTHERS WHO WANNA INVEST IN RICHARDSON. SO IT WAS A REALLY GREAT PRESENTATION. AWESOME. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? WELL, LET ME THROW OUT ONE. UH, SATURDAY MORNINGS PAST SATURDAY MORNING CHAMBER OF COMMERCE HOSTED A, UM, I GUESS A WELLNESS FAIR OUT AT, UH, WEST COAST UNIVERSITY. AND WHAT WAS, THERE WAS A GROUP OF EVERYONE. THERE WAS A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION, NONPROFIT GROUP, AND THEY WERE THERE SHOWING HOW THEY CAN WORK TOGETHER, MESH TOGETHER TO SUPPORT OUR ENTIRE CITY IN THE SURROUNDING LITTLE AREAS. SO IT WAS A GREAT EVENT. I ENJOYED, UH, HAVING A CHANCE JUST TO WALK THROUGH IT AND VISIT WITH EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THOSE BOOTHS. AND, UM, I THINK IT'S PRETTY MUCH THE RICHARDSON WAY, PEOPLE CARING ABOUT THEIR NEIGHBORS AND PEOPLE CARING ABOUT [03:25:01] WHAT THEY CAN DO TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. AND SO IT, IT WAS REALLY NEAT. SO I JUST WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT FOR THAT. SO, ALRIGHT, WITH THAT BEING SAID, IT IS 9:34 PM THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED. THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.