Sep 17, 2024 City Planning Commission Meetings

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THANK YOU.

WELCOME TO THE SEPTEMBER 17TH MEETING OF THE RICHARDSON CITY PLAN COMMISSION.

THE PLAN COMMISSION CONSISTS OF RICHARDSON RESIDENTS APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL.

THERE ARE SEVEN REGULAR MEMBERS AND TWO ALTERNATES ON THE COMMISSION.

ONLY SEVEN MEMBERS WILL VOTE ON AN ISSUE, ALTHOUGH ALL MEMBERS MAY PARTICIPATE IN DISCUSSIONS AND DELIBERATIONS.

TONIGHT WE HAVE, UH, SEVEN MEMBERS HERE.

SO EVERYONE WILL BE VOTING IN DELIBERATE DELIBERATING IN THE CASE OF AN ABSENCE OF A REGULAR MEMBER, A DESIGNATED ALTERNATE, WE'LL VOTE ON THE ISSUE, AND THAT'S, THAT HAS BEEN TAKEN CARE OF.

THIS MEETING IS A BUSINESS MEETING AND WILL BE CONDUCTED AS SUCH IN THAT REGARD.

AS A COURTESY TO THOSE IN ATTENDANCE, WE REQUEST THAT ALL DEVICES THAT EMIT SOUND BE TURNED, TURNED OFF, OR ADJUSTED.

SO AS NOT TO INTERRUPT THE MEETING, UH, OUR PROCEEDINGS ARE RECORDED.

SO PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD WHEN YOU ADDRESS THE COMMISSION.

UM, OUR FIRST

[1. Approval of minutes of the regular business meeting of September 3, 2024.]

OUR LAST MEETING, UM, THERE WE HAVE, UH, UH, DISCUSSED THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ANY CHANGES OR, UH, CORRECTIONS TO THE MEETING, TO THE MINUTES OF THE MEETING AND, UH, FOUND NONE.

SO I'D LOOK FOR, UH, A MOTION AND YES, SIR, MR. I SUGGEST WE APPROVE THE MEETINGS AS EXISTING.

THE MINUTES? YES, SIR.

OKAY.

AND MR. CONSTANTINA, I SECOND THE MOTION.

ALRIGHT, SO WE HAVE A, UH, A MOTION TO APPROVE.

AND A SECOND, UM, IS, IS THERE, UH, WE'LL CALL FOR A VOTE ON THE, ON THE APPROVAL.

ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR HAND.

OKAY.

ALL OPPOSED? UH, SEEING NONE, UH, THAT MOTION PASSES.

SEVEN ZERO.

ALRIGHT, NOW

[2. Zoning File 24-22 Special Permit – BirdieBay Golf: Consider and act upon a request for approval of a Special Permit for a Commercial Entertainment, Indoor use (virtual golf simulator) in an existing suite space on an 8.1- acre lot currently zoned PD Planned Development Collins/Arapaho TOD & Innovation District (Station Area Sub-District), located at 1002 N. Central Expressway, at the northeast corner of Central Expressway and Arapaho Road. Owner: Rick Currey, representing AF 1002 N. Central Ltd. Staff: Derica Peters.]

THANK YOU.

ZONING FILE 24 22 IS A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL PERMIT FOR AN INDOOR COMMERCIAL ENTERTAINMENT USE AT 1002 NORTH CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY.

THE SUBJECT SITE IS NORTHEAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF NORTH CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY AND ARAPAHOE ROAD.

THE SUBJECT SITE IS ZONED PD PLAN DEVELOPMENT AS PART OF THE COLLINS ARAPAHOE TOD AND INNOVATION DISTRICT, AND IS IN THE STATION AREA.

SUBDISTRICT, THE PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH RESTAURANTS.

UH, TO THE EAST OF THE PROPERTY IS THE DART ARAPAHO CENTER STATION AND TO THE WEST IS CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY.

THESE PHOTOS ARE OF THE SUBJECT SITE TODAY.

THIS IS THE WEST ELEVATION AND THEN THE BUILDING IS VIEWED FROM THE NORTH ELEVATION.

AND THEN ANOTHER PHOTO OF THE INTERIOR OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

SO THE, THE SITE IS EIGHT ACRES IN TOTAL AND HAS BEEN DEVELOPED WITH SIX INDIVIDUAL SINGLE STORY BUILDINGS PROVIDING 117,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL LEASE SPACE.

SO THE APPLICANTS, UH, ARE REPRESENTED BY MASTER PLAN AND THEY ARE REPRESENTING BIRDIE BAY GOLF.

UH, BIRDIE BAY GOLF IS AN INDOOR GOLF SIMULATION BAR AND CAFE.

THEY OPENED THEIR FIRST LOCATION IN 2022 IN TULSA, OKLAHOMA.

AND, UH, THEY INTEND TO OCCUPY THIS LOCATION AT 1002 NORTH CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY AND THE NORTHERNMOST BUILDING WHERE THEY INTEND TO OCCUPY A 3,955 SQUARE FOOT LEASE SPACE.

THEY PROVIDED THE, UH, FLOOR PLAN YOU SEE HERE, UH, WHICH SHOWS THEY WILL PROVIDE FIVE BAYS, WHICH AC WHICH ACCOMMODATE FOUR PEOPLE EACH SO THEY CAN SUPPORT A TOTAL OF 20 PLAYERS.

UH, THEY WILL ALSO OFFER A GOLF PRO SHOP AND A BAR WHERE, WHERE THEY WILL OFFER ALCOHOL, REFRESHMENTS AND LIGHT SNACKS.

THE APPLICANT INDICATED IN THEIR APPLICANT'S STATEMENT THAT THE FACILITY WILL BE OPEN FROM SUNDAY THROUGH THURSDAY FROM 10:00 AM TO 10:00 PM AND THEN ON FRIDAY AND SATURDAY FROM 9:00 AM TO 12:00 AM THE SUBJECT SITE PROVIDES 306 PARKING SPACES IN TOTAL.

AND THE BIRDIE BAY DID PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION FROM THEIR EXISTING LOCATION IN TULSA, UH, THAT INCLUDED PARKING OBSERVATIONS.

AND THEY EXPECT

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SO WE BELIEVE THERE'S ADEQUATE PARKING ON SITE.

AND THIS IS A FINAL REQUEST.

SUMMARY.

UH, WE DID RECEIVE TWO LETTERS IN SUPPORT OF THIS, UH, REQUEST.

AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TONIGHT WITH THE PRESENTATION AS WELL.

I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. PETERS? YES, SIR.

SO I WANNA MAKE SURE, I MEAN, THIS TO MY MIND LOOKS LIKE THE SAME SPACE WE TALKED ABOUT FOR, UH, KIDS.

UH, SNOW SKIING THING.

MM-HMM, .

SO LAST YEAR, YEAR OR IS IT ADJACENT TO IT OR, I MEAN, IF IT'S ADJACENT, THAT WOULD BE PERFECT.

AND, YOU KNOW, KIDS GO AND SKI AND PARENTS GO AND PLAY GOLF AND HAVE LIBATIONS, RIGHT? MM-HMM.

, PLEASE, PLEASE ELABORATE.

THANK YOU.

IT IS IN A DIFFERENT BUILDING.

I BELIEVE THAT WAS IN BUILDING ONE THAT SHREDDER SEA SKI SCHOOL THAT YOU, UH, REVIEWED LAST YEAR FOR SPECIAL PERMIT.

THEY ARE STILL, UH, GETTING THEIR BUILDING PERMITS SET UP AND THEY STILL PLAN TO OCCUPY THE LEASE SPACE IN BUILDING ONE DOWN HERE AT THE SOUTH OF THE SITE.

UM, BUT I THINK THAT'S, THERE IT GOES.

AND THEY, UM, THE BIRDIE BAY WILL BENEFIT FROM THOSE HIGH INTERIOR CEILINGS LIKE THE SHREDDER SKI SCHOOL DID.

SO THEY FOUND THIS TO BE A, A GOOD LOCATION FOR THEIR GOLF SIMULATOR AS WELL.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO.

ALRIGHT.

UH, THANK YOU.

WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND AS, UH, AS MS. MS. PETERS UH, MENTIONED, WE HAVE GOTTEN COPIES OF TWO COMMUNICATIONS FROM CONCERNED CITIZENS, BOTH, UH, EXPRESSING SUPPORT.

SO, UM, I'LL INVITE THE APPLICANT TO COME FORWARD.

PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME AND, UH, ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

THANK YOU.

MY NAME IS TURNER ROBERTSON, 22 1 SOUTH MAIN STREET, UM, REPRESENTING BIRDIE BAY.

UH, THE USE THAT WE'RE PROPOSING TODAY IS REALLY CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING USES.

UM, THE PROPOSED USE WILL HELP NOT ONLY REVI REINVIGORATE THIS AREA, BUT WE'LL BRING IN, UH, POSITIVE INTERACTIONS WITH THE COMMUNITY.

UM, OUR PROPOSED PLAN THAT WE ARE REQUESTING TO DO ONCE.

I'D LIKE TO THANK DERRICK AND STAFF.

UM, I'VE WORKED WITH HER MANY, MANY TIMES BEFORE.

UM, SHE'S GREAT AT WHAT SHE DOES.

THEY'RE VERY THOROUGH.

UM, THIS WASN'T OUR FIRST SITE THAT WE LOOKED AT IN RICHARDSON.

WE LOOKED AT VARIOUS SITES, UH, BUT DUE TO VARIOUS CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD WITH DERRICK AND STAFF, UM, WE FOUND THIS PRIME LOCATION AND WE'RE VERY THANKFUL FOR THAT.

'CAUSE WE DO FEEL THIS WILL BE A BETTER LOCATION FOR IT.

UH, WE'RE EXCITED FOR THE SURROUNDING USES 'CAUSE OUR USE IS CONSISTENT AND COMPLIMENTARY TO THOSE USES.

UM, A WHOLE PART OF PLANNING AND ZONING.

SO ZONING WAS CREATED TO HELP GARNER AND GOVERN CERTAIN USES GOING INTO CERTAIN AREAS TO PREVENT, UM, NEGATIVE IMPACTS ON THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY AND WELFARE OF THE COMMUNITY.

WE FEEL WE ARE COMPLIMENTARY, WE ARE FULFILLING THE GOALS AND AMBITIONS AND, UM, THE VISION OF THE ZONING DISTRICT IN THIS AREA OF THE PLANT DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.

UM, I DO HAVE PETER WELDON.

HE WILL BE THE, UM, OWNER.

HE'S A POWER OWNER AND OPERATOR OF BIRDIE BAY.

I THINK IT'S REALLY VITAL THAT YOU UNDERSTAND WHO BIRDIE BAY IS, WHAT THEY DO, AND HOW THIS IS A VERY UNIQUE EXPERIENCE.

UM, THIS WILL BE THE FIRST, UM, BIRDIE BAY HERE IN TEXAS.

UM, THEY'RE VERY, VERY, UH, CONSCIENTIOUS ABOUT WHERE THEY DEVELOPED AND THEY WANTED TO COME TO RICHARDSON FOR A REASON.

AND SO, UM, I'D LIKE TO INVITE PETER BALDIN UP HERE TO KIND OF EXPLAIN BIRDIE BAY THEIR MISSION, THEIR GOALS, BECAUSE I DO FEEL, UM, YOU CAN SEE HOW THEY ARE PART OF THE COMMUNITY.

THEY WANNA BE A PART OF THE COMMUNITY AND YEAH, I'LL LEAVE IT UP TO HIM THEN I'LL BE BACK TO FINISH UP.

GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY.

UH, MY NAME IS PETER WELDON.

MY ADDRESS IS 41 63 PARK LANE.

UH, AND I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN A VERDE BAY AT 1000 INTO, UH, NORTH CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY.

A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR HISTORY.

UH, WE WERE FOUNDED BY KEAN LOCKHART, WHO'S A US VETERAN, UH, FROM THE NAVY.

AND HE WAS STATIONED IN SOUTH KOREA, WHERE INDOOR GOLF CULTURE IS A LOT MORE COMMON.

THEY HAVE MORE OF THESE MACHINES CALLED, UH, FROM A COMPANY CALLED GOLF ON THAN THEY DO COFFEE SHOPS, UH, .

SO WHEN HE CAME BACK TO AMERICA, HE SAID, HEY, I THINK I, I WANNA OPEN UP A GOLF SHOP, UH, WITH THIS TECHNOLOGY BECAUSE NOBODY IN AMERICA IS USING IT YET.

UH, SINCE THEN, UH, OVER A HUNDRED LOCATIONS OF OPEN IN AMERICA USE UTILIZING THIS TECHNOLOGY.

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UH, WE ARE A VERY VETERAN FOCUSED BUSINESS.

WE PARTNER WITH A CO A COM OR A NON-PROFIT CALLED EAGLE OPS THAT PROVIDES, UH, ENTERTAINMENT AND NETWORKING FOR, UH, VETERANS WHEN THEY COME BACK.

SO THEY HAVE THINGS TO DO, PEOPLE TO MEET, AND IT ACTS AS A SUPPORT GROUP, UH, AND BOTH, AND A WAY TO, UH, BE ENTERTAINING.

UH, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF VETERANS LOVE GOLF.

THEY FOUND THAT GOING OUT ON THE GOLF COURSE ITSELF SOMETIMES ISN'T CONDUCIVE TO REALLY TALKING AND GETTING TO KNOW SOMEBODY SO MUCH AS THE PERSON YOU'RE SHARING A CART WITH.

WHEREAS INDOOR GOLF IS, UH, A MUCH MORE INCLUSIVE ENVIRONMENT WHERE EVERYBODY CAN CONVERSATE AND, UH, GET TO KNOW EACH OTHER A LITTLE BETTER.

SO WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE WITH THEIR, UH, VETERAN SPONSORSHIPS ON MONDAYS, UH, TO ALLOW THIS PROGRAM FOR VETERANS IN THE DALLAS AREA TO COME TOGETHER AND PLAY SOME FREE GOLF.

UH, WE'RE ALSO GONNA OFFER 25% DISCOUNT TO VETERANS.

UH, PERSONALLY, UH, I'M AN AVID GOLFER.

UH, I HAVE A MBA FROM SMU AND I WAS PREVIOUSLY A VICE PRESIDENT AT A PUBLICLY TRADED BANK.

UH, AND I CHOSE TO RUN A GOLF SIMULATOR BECAUSE I WANNA START A BUSINESS BEFORE I START A FAMILY.

AND I WANNA PUT THAT ENERGY INTO IT NOW WHILE I HAVE IT.

AND PART OF WHAT TRENT WAS SAYING ABOUT RICHARDSON IS THIS IS A VERY FAMILY FOCUSED AREA.

THIS IS A VERY FAMILY FOCUSED BRAND, AND I'M A VERY FAMILY FOCUSED GUY.

SO I THINK THIS IS A GREAT ALIGNMENT OF ALL OF OUR INTERESTS.

UH, AND WITH THAT, UH, IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, ALRIGHT, WE'LL OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS.

MR. BEACH.

WELL, I'M CURIOUS, YOU GOT A DISCOUNT FOR VETERANS? DO, DO YOU HAVE A DISCOUNT FOR, UH, THE, THE PLANNING COMMISSION ? UM, WHAT'S CONSIDERED A BROAD ? YOU DEFINITELY DON'T NEED TO ANSWER THAT FOR THE PLAN.

I'M SURE THAT WAS IN JEST.

YEAH, THAT WAS INJUST.

YEAH.

SO, SO ON A MORE SERIOUS NOTE, , UM, I WAS JUST CURIOUS, UH, THIS IS NOT WITHIN OUR PURVIEW, BUT I WAS JUST CURIOUS, WHAT KINDA LIQUOR LICENSE ARE YOU PLANNING TO HAVE THERE? BEER AND WINE.

BEER AND WINE.

OKAY.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, YES, SIR.

MR. PURDY, UH, ABOUT THE GOLF TECHNOLOGY USED, IS IT PRETTY LOCKED DOWN INTO GOLF OR COULD YOU SPIN THAT AS A BATTEN CAGE PICKLEBALL, OR IS IT PRETTY MUCH GOLF? IT'S ENTIRELY GOLF FOCUSED.

UH, THERE'S A FLOOR MAT THAT WILL ADJUST BASED ON YOUR LIE.

AND UNLIKE SOME OTHER SIMULATORS THAT HAVE THOSE OTHER SPORTS GOLF ON IS PURELY FOCUSED ON GOLF.

THANK YOU.

SO, I, I JUST WANNA SAY ONE MORE THING.

I I HAVE A PASS AROUND ON EACH ONE DEREK DID FOR ME.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, A WHAT OUR CONCEPTUAL INTERIOR DESIGNS GONNA LOOK LIKE.

UM, ONCE AGAIN, THE TECHNOLOGY THAT THEY'RE DOING IS NOT SEEN REALLY ANYWHERE ELSE IN TEXAS.

UM, IT, IT'S PRETTY FASCINATING.

I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO, YOU KNOW, GOOGLE IT, THE FLOORS MOVE AS YOU GO THROUGHOUT THE COURSE.

LAW OF GOLF SIMULATORS DON'T DO THAT.

YOU'RE HITTING AGAINST A SCREEN.

THAT'S ABOUT IT.

UM, SO IT'S REALLY IMMERSIVE EXPERIENCE THAT YOU'RE HAVING.

UM, IT'S FAMILY ORIENTED AS YOU SAID.

UM, MY KIDS HAVE ALREADY ASKED ME WHEN WE CAN GO TO IT.

I TOLD 'EM WE HAVE TO HOLD ON.

THERE'S SOME STEPS WE HAVE TO DO.

UM, BUT REALLY IT'S A VERY FAMILY ORIENTED PLACE AND THAT'S WHY THEY'RE VERY SPECIFIC ON THE LOCATIONS IN TEXAS THAT THEY WERE LOOKING AT.

AND RICHON WAS THE FIRST PLACE THEY WANTED TO COME FOR THAT PURPOSE.

SO, ONE OTHER QUESTION OCCURS TO ME, WOULD THIS LEND ITSELF FOR, UH, UH, FOR GOLF INSTRUCTIONS? WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THIRD PARTY GOLF INSTRUCTORS WHO ARE ALLOWED TO USE OUR FACILITIES FOR LESSONS.

UH, WE DO NOT PLAN TO STAFF A GOLF INSTRUCTOR, UH, FULL-TIME.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UM, NOT A QUESTION SO MUCH AS A COMMENT.

UM, ANYBODY WHO'S, UH, TRIED TO PLAY 18 HOLES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SUMMER IN TEXAS KIND OF KNOWS, UH, THAT, UH, THIS IS PROBABLY A GOOD IDEA.

SO I, I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT INSIDE HERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SUMMER IN TEXAS.

APPRECIATE THAT.

OUR SLOGAN IS ACTUALLY BIRDIE BAY, WHERE IT'S ALWAYS GOLF WEATHER, SO SPOT ON .

ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT.

UM, WE, UH, WE DO

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BUT IT SEEMS THAT YOU MAY HAVE, MAY HAVE ALREADY TAKEN CARE OF THAT, BUT YOU DO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY.

NO, WE, WE'D JUST LIKE TO THINK STAFF AGAIN BECAUSE I MEAN, UM, WE DID WORK WITH THEM QUITE CLOSELY ON MAKING SURE THIS IS A IDEAL LOCATION.

AND SO THROUGH A LOT OF CHECKS AND BALANCES, UH, WE DECIDED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.

SO THAT'S GOOD.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU GUYS.

REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU.

WE WILL, UH, UH, I GUESS I'D LOOK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE HEARING.

ARE THERE ANY, UH, THAT'S, I'M SORRY.

WE HAVE WE HAVE HAD, UH, ONE, UH, UH, NOTIFICATION THAT SOMEONE MIGHT, MIGHT WANT TO SPEAK ON A TOPIC, BUT THEY DIDN'T MENTION THE, THE, UH, CASE.

SO ANYONE WANT TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF OR AGAINST THIS CASE? DON'T SEE ANYTHING.

SO NOW WE CAN MOVE ON TO A MOTION.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ALRIGHT.

AND MR. CONSTANTINA? I SECOND.

ALRIGHT.

UH, ALL IN FAVOR THAT PASSES SEVEN.

OH.

SO WE'LL CLOSE THE HEARING.

UM, ANY, ANY COMMENTS, UH, DELIBERATIONS? UH, I SAID, UM, TOP GOLF IS HURTING, SO I HOPE BIRDIE BAY EATS THEIR LUNCH.

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ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? WELL, UH, I'D LOOK FOR, UH, A MOTION TO, UH, ADDRESS THIS CASE.

MR. CHAIRMAN, UM, OR MR. VICE CHAIRMAN? OH, .

UH, I, I DON'T HAVE THE WORDS RIGHT, BUT I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE.

AMEN.

APPROVAL.

YES, SIR.

EXACTLY.

I'LL MOVE FOR AN APPROVAL.

ALRIGHT, A A AS AS PRESENTED.

AND A SECOND.

MS. ZA.

I SECOND.

ALRIGHT, SO WE HAVE A, A MOTION AND A SECOND TO, UH, RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO THE COUNCIL.

UH, ALL IN FAVOR.

AND AGAIN, THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

SO, UH, GOOD LUCK.

GOOD LUCK ON YOUR PROJECT.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT,

[3. Zoning File 24-23 Special Development Plan – AutoSavvy: Consider and act upon a request for approval of a Special Development Plan to accommodate Motor Vehicle Sales/Leasing on 4.43-acres located at the northeast corner of Arapaho Road and Greenville Avenue and currently zoned PD Planned Development Collins Arapaho Form Based Code (Station Area Sub-district). Owner: AF 101 E Arapaho Ltd. Staff: Derica Peters.]

THANK YOU.

ZONING FILE 24 23 IS A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN AT 1 0 1 EAST ARAPAHOE ROAD.

THE SUBJECT SITE IS ZONED AS PART OF THE, OF THE PD PLAN DEVELOPMENT FOR THE COLLINS ARAPAHOE FORM-BASED CODE AND INNOVATION DISTRICT, AND IS IN THE STATION AREA.

SUBDISTRICT, THE SITE IS 4.5 ACRES IN TOTAL.

IT'S BEEN DEVELOPED WITH A 6,900 SQUARE FOOT OFFICE AND SHOWROOM AND A 757 SQUARE FOOT SERVICE CENTER.

THE PROPERTY TO THE THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH IS THE DART CENTER, ARAPAHO STATION AND PARK AND RIDE PARKING LOT TO THE EAST ARE COMMERCIAL USES TO THE SOUTH ARE ADDITIONAL COMMERCIAL USES.

AND TO THE WEST IS THE, UH, DART ARAPAHO CENTER STATION.

AND THESE ARE PHOTOS OF THE PROPERTY AS IT'S SEEN TODAY.

SO THE PROPERTY WAS DEVELOPED IN 1995 AS AN AUTOMOBILE DEALERSHIP.

THIS IS THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.

AND THEN THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY WHERE YOU SEE THE SERVICE BUILDING IN THE REAR, THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY IS SEEN FROM WOODALL AND THEN THE PROPERTY LOOKING WEST.

SO THE PROPERTY WAS REZONED IN 2019 AND AT THE TIME THE EXISTING AUTOMOBILE DEALERSHIP CONTINUED TO OPERATE AT THE LOCATION UNTIL 2022 WHEN THEY VACATED AND THE RIGHTS TO A AUTOMOBILE DEALERSHIP WERE DEEMED ABANDONED.

SO THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED A SPECIAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO REESTABLISH THE PREVIOUSLY EXISTING VEHICLE SALES.

SO THE APPLICANT IS REPRESENTED BY AUTO SAVVY.

THEY ARE A NATIONAL BRAND THAT SPECIALIZES IN USED BRANDED TITLE VEHICLES INCLUDING CARS, TRUCKS, VANS, AND SUVS.

THEY HAVE OVER 20 NATION, OVER 20 LOCATIONS NATIONWIDE, AND THEY'RE KNOWN FOR THEIR ADVANCED DIGITAL WEB PRESENCE.

THE SPECIAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN OUTLINES EIGHT AREAS SO THAT THEY DON'T MEET THE CURRENT ZONING CODE.

AND THAT INCLUDES THE USE AND IT PERTAINS

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THE SITE PROVIDES 276 PARKING SPACES ACROSS THE TWO TRACKS.

AND SOME ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATIONS, UH, THIS SITE IS ADJACENT TO THE ARAPAHO CENTER STATION.

SO THIS SITE IS PART OF AN OVERALL REDEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT IS SLATED FOR THE NEXT FEW YEARS.

UH, THE CITY IS WORKING WITH DART ON THAT REDEVELOPMENT PLAN.

THEY HAVE NOT YET SELECTED A DEVELOPER OR A PROPOSAL YET, SO WE THINK THAT PLAN IS STILL A FEW YEARS OUT FOR THE, FOR THEM TO BREAK GROUND ON THAT.

UH, THE APPLICANT AND THE PROPERTY OWNER OF THE SUBJECT SITE HAVE ASKED FOR A APPROVAL OF AN INTERIM USE FOR A PERIOD OF NO MORE THAN FIVE YEARS FOR THEM TO REESTABLISH THE VEHICLE SALES ON THE PROPERTY.

AND FINALLY, THIS IS THE REQUEST SUMMARY AND THAT INCLUDES THE CONDITION FOR THE, UH, ORDINANCE TO EXPIRE WITHIN FIVE YEARS OF ITS ADOPTION.

AND THIS WAS A PUBLIC HEARING AND WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY CORRESPONDENCE IN RESPONSE TO THE REQUEST.

AND I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

ALRIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. PETERS? THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, WE'LL, UH, WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ZONING FILE 24 23 AND, UH, INVITE THE APPLICANT TO MAKE YOUR PRESENTATION.

AND DO PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS SURE.

FOR THE RECORD.

SO, I'M RICH JACKSON WITH AUTO SAVVY AND ADDRESS IS 4 4 3 DEER VALLEY DRIVE.

UM, THE FIRST THING I'D LIKE TO START OFF WITH IS HELP YOU UNDERSTAND KIND OF WHAT OUR BUSINESS IS AND WHAT DIFFERENTIATES US FROM A LOT OF OTHER DEALERS OUT THERE.

SHE MENTIONED WE HAVE LOCATIONS ACROSS THE ENTIRE COUNTRY FROM FLORIDA, HEADING WEST OUT TO NEVADA, COLORADO, UTAH, AND THEN IN TEXAS, WE CURRENTLY HAVE FIVE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS HERE IN THE DFW AREA.

WE HAVE TWO EXISTING LOCATIONS THAT WE CURRENTLY OPERATE OUT OF.

SO I PROVIDED A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION TO YOU ON OUR COMPANY.

A LITTLE BIT ABOUT US, UM, SHOWS OUR SCALE, UM, OUR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.

THERE'S A MAP IN THERE THAT DESCRIBES THE DIFFERENT AREAS THAT WE'LL BE GOING INTO AND, YOU KNOW, THAT, UH, CAN ACCOMMODATE OUR PRODUCT AND, AND, UH, THAT WORKS WITH OUR BUSINESS PLAN AS IT IS.

BUT THE THINGS THAT DIFFER, OR A FEW THINGS THAT, UM, SET US APART FROM OTHER DEALERS.

WE'RE A USED CAR AUTO GROUP.

WE DON'T SELL NEW CARS, BUT, UM, WE SELL BRANDED TITLE CARS.

SO VEHICLES THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY SALVAGED, A VEHICLE THAT HAS GONE THROUGH AN INSURANCE, AUTO AUCTION WHERE IT'S DEEMED SALVAGED AT THAT POINT, AND THEN THE VEHICLES ARE REBUILT, RESTORED, AND, UH, THEN WE REELL THEM.

NOW SOME CLARITY ON THAT, WHERE A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL DRAW CONCLUSIONS ARE THAT WE DO A LOT OF THE REBUILDING AND THINGS OURSELVES.

WE, WE DO NOT.

SO WHAT'S MADE OUR, UM, PLATFORM SO SUCCESSFUL AND DRAWN US ACROSS THE UNITED STATES AT THIS POINT HAS BEEN THE FACT THAT WE FOCUS HEAVILY ON THE QUALITY OF OUR VEHICLES.

WE, WE HAVE A LOT OF LOCATIONS, A LOT OF AREA WE NEED, UH, WORD OF MOUTH.

WE TRADITIONALLY, WHEN SOMEBODY SAID USES THE WORD SALVAGE, REBUILT, RESTORED, BRANDED TITLE VEHICLE, THE HAIR ON THE BACK OF THEIR NECKS USUALLY STAND UP AND THEY SAY, HOLD ON.

ON, RIGHT? WE'VE HEARD STORIES ABOUT THOSE IN THE PAST, LET'S STAY AS FAR AWAY FROM THEM AS WE CAN.

WELL, THE ORIGINAL OWNERS OF AUTO SAVVY, WE ALL CAME FROM THE OEM SIDE, THE MANUFACTURER SIDE OF, UM, OWNING DEALERSHIPS.

AND WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO IDENTIFY EARLY ON WAS, CARS ARE A HORRIBLE INVESTMENT.

YOU BUY A NEW VEHICLE AND THEY DEPRECIATE SO QUICKLY.

SO WHAT WE WANTED TO OFFER IS JUST SOMETHING THAT NO ONE ELSE IS OFFERING AT SCALE.

AND THAT IS, HOW DOES SOMEBODY REALLY RECEIVE A VALUE OUT OF AN AUTOMOBILE BAD INVESTMENT.

SO THEY DON'T LIKE TO PAY MUCH FOR THEM, BUT THEY WANT A HIGH QUALITY, A LATE MODEL CAR.

NOW WE FOCUS ON ALL LATE MODEL CARS.

SO MOST OF OUR INVENTORY CONSISTS OF TWO TO 3-YEAR-OLD VEHICLES AND CURRENT MODEL YEAR VEHICLES THAT WE SELL MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER.

WE CAN CONTROL THE QUALITY A LITTLE BIT BETTER, BUT BACK TO THE RESTORING OR RESTORATION OF THE VEHICLE FROM ITS INITIAL SALVAGE DEPOSITION THAT WAS GIVEN TO IT.

AND THAT IS WE BUY THE VEHICLES ONCE THEY'VE BEEN REPAIRED.

WE'RE LARGE ENOUGH NOW AND OUR SCALE IS BIG ENOUGH THAT WE CAN GO INTO THESE DIFFERENT BODY SHOPS.

WE CALL THEM REBUILDS AND DEVELOP A RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM.

AND

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WE'VE TAKEN A LOT OF THESE BODY SHOPS WHERE NOW ALL THEY DO ARE OUR VEHICLES OR VEHICLES FOR US.

BUT THE UNIQUE WAY WE DO IT DIFFERENT THAN A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE THAT HAVE TRIED TO GET INTO THIS TYPE OF BUSINESS IS THAT WE DO NOT WANT DO THE REBUILD OURSELVES.

WE DO NOT WANT TO BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR A, A BAD REBUILD OR A BAD PURCHASE ON A CAR THAT HAD TOO MUCH DAMAGE.

THEY HAD TO PUT TOO MUCH MONEY INTO IT FOR RECONDITIONING TO GET IT BACK TO THE POINT WHERE THEY'LL LOSE MONEY.

OR SAD TO SAY, SOME OF THESE BAD ACTORS GO OUT THERE AND THEY'LL CUT CORNERS ON THESE VEHICLES IN ORDER TO KEEP THE PRICE DOWN TO WHERE THEY NEED TO BE TO SELL IT, TO MAKE THE PROFIT.

SO WHAT WE'VE DEVELOPED IS A GROUP, A TEAM OF OUR OWN EMPLOYEES THAT LIVE AROUND THE UNITED STATES THAT VISIT THESE BODY SHOPS DAILY, WEEKLY.

AND THESE BODY SHOPS NOW ARE SOPHISTICATED ENOUGH.

THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT.

WE RIGHT NOW, WE HOLD OVER 4,300 VEHICLES IN INVENTORY.

THEY KNOW THE VEHICLES THAT WE'RE NEEDING BASED OFF OF OUR SALES RATES AND WHAT WE'VE RECENTLY SOLD.

AND THEY KNOW THE, THEN WE'LL COMMUNICATE IF THERE ARE OTHER VEHICLES THAT WE WANT OTHER THAN THAT.

BUT THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE AND THEY ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT WE WILL PAY FOR A VEHICLE BEFORE THEY EVER BUY IT IN ITS WRECKED CONDITION AT AN AUTO AUCTION OR WHATEVER INCIDENT IT WENT THROUGH, WHETHER IT WAS A FLOOD, A HAIL, THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO THEY KNOW AUTO SAVVY WILL PAY X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS, THEY HAVE TO BUY IT DOWN HERE, THEY REPAIR IT WITH X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS IN RECONDITIONING, AND THEN THIS IS THEIR PROFIT MARGIN IN US.

WE'LL, WE WILL NEVER CHANGE THAT NUMBER DEPENDING ON WHAT IT IS FOR WHAT VEHICLE, WHAT TRIM MODEL, WHAT MILES, ALL OF THAT.

SO THEY CLEARLY UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'LL PAY AFTER THEY BUY THE VEHICLE.

SO THEY GO INTO IT WITH THEIR EYES WIDE OPEN.

WE ACTUALLY DO A SET OF FOUR DIFFERENT INSPECTIONS ON THE VEHICLE.

THE FIRST INSPECTION IS PERFORMED BY THE REBUILDER THEMSELVES.

WE KIND OF GIVE THEM THE ANSWERS TO THE TEST.

WE SAY, WE WANT YOU TO INSPECT THIS WHEN YOU'RE DONE WITH THE VEHICLE, YOU INSPECT THIS PORTION OF IT.

WHAT THAT DOES IS IT PROVIDES A LITTLE CLARITY ON WHO WE'RE WORKING WITH BECAUSE IF THEY SAY THEY'VE INSPECTED IT, THEY'VE SIGNED OFF ON THE VEHICLE AS INSPECTED.

THEN WE GO IN WITH OUR OFFICIAL INSPECTION FROM ONE OF OUR EMPLOYEES AND WE FIND SOMETHING THAT THEY ACTUALLY HAVE NOT BEEN TRUTHFUL WITH OR DID NOT DO WHAT THEY MENTIONED THEY WOULD DO.

WE JUST DON'T BUY THE VEHICLE.

SO WE'RE NOT THE OWNER OF THE VEHICLE AT ANY POINT UNTIL AFTER IT'S PASSED THOSE INSPECTIONS.

AFTER OUR PURCHASING TEAM GOES IN AND INSPECTS THE VEHICLES, THEN WE ACTUALLY WILL PURCHASE THE VEHICLE.

SO WE'LL PURCHASE THE VEHICLE, WE'LL SHIP IT INTO ONE OF OUR 20 LO DIFFERENT LOCATIONS WHEREVER IT'S BEST SUITED.

THEN WE DO ANOTHER INSPECTION ON THE VEHICLE.

NOW AT THIS POINT, WE STILL HAVE A RIGHT TO GET OUT OF THE VEHICLE AND NOT OWN THE VEHICLE.

AND THEY SIGNED A CONTRACT WITH US ORIGINALLY WHEN WE PURCHASED THE VEHICLE THAT WE HAVE A WHITE, THE RIGHT TO WALK AWAY FROM IT AT THAT POINT.

SO THEN WE BRING IT INTO ONE OF OUR DEALERSHIPS, DO A FULL INSPECTION ON IT AT THAT POINT AND INSPECT AS MUCH AS WE POSSIBLY CAN.

BUT WE ARE ALWAYS FOCUSING ON THE AREA OF THE DAMAGE, WHAT THE DAMAGE WAS, DEPENDING ON HOW THE, HOW THE VEHICLE WAS DAMAGED.

AND THEN, UH, WE WILL PUT IT OUT FOR SALE AT THAT POINT.

THE FOURTH INSPECTION USUALLY HAPPENS IN THE DIFFERENT STATES THAT WE OPERATE OUR BUSINESS IN.

AND THAT IS A, AN INSPECTION BY THE STATE THAT WE'RE OPERATING IN.

THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE VEHICLE PASSES THE INSPECTIONS SO THAT IT CAN BE LEGALLY REGISTERED TO DRIVE AND LICENSE TO DRIVE ON THEIR ROADS.

SO AFTER THOSE FOUR INSPECTIONS, WE'RE VERY CONFIDENT ABOUT THE QUALITY OF THE VEHICLES.

BUT THE DIFFERENCE, AGAIN, IF I REVERT BACK TO ONE OF MY ORIGINAL STATEMENTS THAT SETS US APART.

A LOT OF THESE OTHER DEALERS THAT HAVE TRIED THIS, UM, THEY OWN THE VEHICLE RIGHT FROM THE VERY BEGINNING.

AS SOON AS THEY BID ON THAT CAR, IT'S THEIR VEHICLE.

AND WITH OUR, THE WAY OUR MODEL IS, WE DON'T OWN IT UNTIL WE'VE INSPECTED IT AND WE'RE SURE OF THE QUALITY.

AND THEN THAT GOES TO OUR GOOGLE REVIEWS.

RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST ABOUT FOUR AND A HALF ON OUR GOOGLE REVIEWS, WHICH IS HIGHER THAN A LOT OF OEM STORES OUT THERE, ORIGINAL MANUFACTURER STORES SELLING NEW VEHICLES.

SO OUR, OUR RATING FROM OUR CUSTOMERS HAS BEEN VERY HIGH.

BUT PUTTING ALL THOSE THINGS TOGETHER, WHAT WE TRY TO DO IS ELIMINATE THE RISK OF A CUSTOMER COMING IN AND SAYING, HEY, I KNOW I'M SAVING FIVE, $6,000 ON THIS, THE SAME CAR THAT I COULD HAVE BOUGHT DOWN THE STREET.

I KNOW I'M SAVING THAT, BUT MY CONCERN IS THE QUALITY.

WE CAN ELIMINATE A LOT OF THAT RISK WITH OUR BUSINESS PLAN, OUR BUSINESS MODEL, HOW WE DO THAT SO THAT WE, AGAIN, ARE OFFERING A GOOD QUALITY CAR AT A VERY REASONABLE PRICE THAT MOST PEOPLE CAN'T MATCH.

AND THE CUSTOMER DOESN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT DEPRECIATING ASSET AT THE END OF THE DAY.

SO I KNOW THAT WAS A LOT TO COVER, BUT MISCONCEPTIONS ARE THESE CARS ARE TORN APART.

THEY ARRIVE AT OUR DEALERSHIP ON A FORKLIFT, WE START REPAIRING AND DOING ALL OF THAT.

ALL OF OUR VEHICLES ARE 100% REPAIRED BEFORE THEY'RE EVER SHIPPED OUT OF THE REBUILDER

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UM, OTHERWISE THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY ABOUT IT.

THAT'S WHERE MOST PEOPLE HAVE THEIR CONCERNS WITH WHAT WE DO.

BUT I GUESS MY CLOSING STATEMENT IS WHAT I HAD OPENED UP WITH, AND THAT IS WE OFFER A VEHICLE AT ACTUALLY A VALUE THAT MOST DEALERSHIPS CAN'T OFFER AND MOST CUSTOMERS CANNOT PURCHASE, UM, OUT THERE IN THE MARKET TODAY.

BUT WE OFFER IT WITH A DEALERSHIP GROUP STANDING BEHIND THE QUALITY OF THAT VEHICLE WHEN EVERY VEHICLE WE SELL HAS A FOUR MONTH, UH, 4,500 MILE COMPREHENSIVE WARRANTY AS WELL.

SO IT'S NOT JUST A POWERTRAIN WARRANTY, WHICH I ALWAYS DID AS A MANUFACTURER DEALER.

WE HAD ON OUR USED CARS A POWERTRAIN WARRANTY.

THIS IS A COMPREHENSIVE WARRANTY SO THE CUSTOMER CAN FEEL COMFORTABLE ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE GETTING.

AND THEN AS FAR AS ANY AFTERMARKET PRODUCTS THAT THEY WANT TO PURCHASE TO PUT ON THEIR VSCS OR VEHICLE SERVICE CONTRACTS, ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WOULD NORMALLY GET WHEN YOU GO IN FOR PROTECTIONS TO A REGULAR DEALERSHIP, AN OEM FRANCHISE DEALERSHIP WE OFFER AS WELL.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO PUT THE WHOLE PACKAGE TOGETHER, BUT, UM, THE FACT IS WE, WE STRIVE TO MAKE SURE THE QUALITY IS WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE.

SO WHEN WE GO INTO A COMMUNITY, WE'RE VERY FOCUSED THAT WE DON'T GET PUSHED OUTTA THAT COMMUNITY QUICKLY DUE TO THE QUALITY OF OUR VEHICLES WHATSOEVER.

AND WE OFFER A BENEFIT THAT THEY JUST CAN'T FIND ANYWHERE ELSE.

THAT'S, THAT'S ABOUT IT.

THAT'S WHO WE ARE.

I'D LOVE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

UM, I HAVE, UH, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS IF YOU DON'T MIND.

UM, WHEN A, WHEN A TITLE IS BRANDED, DOES THAT RELIEVE THE, UH, THE MANUFACTURER FROM ANY WARRANTY ON THE VEHICLE? IT DOES.

OKAY.

SO WHEN A VEHICLE HAS A BRANDED OR A SALVAGE TITLE ON IT, AND WE CALL THEM BRANDED BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY DIFFERENT TERMS THAT THEY USE FOR BRANDED TITLES.

YOU HAVE HAIL DAMAGE, YOU HAVE WATER, YOU HAVE SMOKE, YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU CAN THINK OF, DEPENDING ON WHAT STATE YOU'RE IN, THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT BRAND.

SO, UM, IT DOES RELIEVE THEM FROM THE MANUFACTURER PORTION OF THE WARRANTY.

WHAT IT DOES NOT RELIEVE THEM FROM OUR SAFETY RECALLS, RECALLS TO THE VEHICLE, THEY'RE OBLIGATED UNDER FEDERAL LAW TO STILL, UH, ACKNOWLEDGE AND TAKE CARE OF THOSE IF THEY'RE UNDER, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER TERMS AND CONDITIONS ARE PRESENTED, THE RECALL.

OKAY.

AND THE, YOU MENTIONED VEHICLE SERVICE CONTRACTS.

UH, ARE ANY OF THOSE MANUFACTURED, SPONSORED, OR ARE THEY THIRD PARTY? THEY'RE THIRD PARTY CONTRACTS.

WE USE A NATIONWIDE COMPANY CALLED ENDURANCE, UM, AND PROBABLY, I BELIEVE THEY'RE THE SECOND LARGEST, UM, AFTERMARKET COMPANY OUT THERE FOR VSCS.

SO WE, WE'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS NOW OVER 15 YEARS AND WE'VE LEARNED SOME HARD LESSONS ON, UH, WHO TO PARTNER WITH ON SOME OF THESE THINGS.

BUT WE FINALLY ENDED UP WITH ONE WE'VE BEEN VERY COMFORTABLE WITH, AND THAT IS NATIONWIDE.

SO WHATEVER HAPPENS TO OUR DEALER GROUP, THOSE, UH, WARRANTIES ARE STILL IN PLAY.

OKAY.

UM, AND I GUESS I'LL MAKE A THIRD COMMENT.

OKAY.

UH, I HAPPENED TO TALK TO MY BROTHER TODAY WHO IS AN INSURANCE AGENT, UH, NEAR THE, UH, NEAR FISHERS YEAH.

INDIANA, UH, ONE OF YOUR LOCATIONS.

AND, UH, I ASKED HIM AS AN INSURANCE AGENT, UH, DID HE KNOW OF YOUR BUSINESS AND HAVE ANY COMMENT? AND, UH, HIS COMMENT WAS, WELL, I DON'T KNOW OF THEM.

AND I THINK I WOULD IF THERE WAS ANYTHING, UH, NEGATIVE TO BE REPORTED.

NOW I CAN'T REALLY SAY THAT THAT'S A RECOMMENDATION, BUT , FOR WHATEVER THAT'S WORTH, I'LL TAKE IT AS A RECOMMENDATION.

.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, MR. BEACH? YES, SIR.

UH, UM, TELL ME YOUR NAME AGAIN.

IT'S RICH JACKSON.

RICH.

OKAY.

RICH.

WELL, I APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENTATION, BUT I'M CURIOUS ON, UM, HOW MANY CARS COME BEFORE YOUR ORGANIZATION AND HOW MANY DO YOU REJECT VERSUS HOW MANY YOU ACCEPT? BECAUSE YOU SAID, YOU KNOW, CARS COME IN AND, WELL, IT'S REALLY NOT UP TO OUR STANDARDS.

WE'RE NOT GONNA DO THAT.

BUT YOU HAVE OTHERS YOU SAY, YEAH, THIS IS GREAT, UH, LET'S GO.

SO I MEAN, 20%, 80% WHAT, WHAT REALLY HAPPENS IN THE BACKGROUND PLEASE? TODAY, PROBABLY LESS THAN 10%.

AND THE REASON BEING IS LESS THAN 10% GET REJECTED.

LESS THAN 10% GET REJECTED.

AND THE REASON BEING IS WE'VE DEVELOPED THESE PARTNERSHIPS WITH THESE BODY SHOPS ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

YES, SIR.

WHERE THEY'VE GIVEN UP ALL THEIR INSURANCE WORK, THEY'VE GIVEN UP DEALERSHIP WORK, THEY'VE GIVEN UP ALL OF THIS OTHER STUFF BECAUSE I CAN PROVIDE A SCALE THAT THEY CANNOT GET ANYWHERE ELSE IF WE'RE SELLING.

RIGHT.

TODAY, WE'RE SELLING ABOUT 1300 CARS A MONTH.

I NEED

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I I DON'T GO LIKE A REGULAR DEALER.

AND I, AS I USED TO RAISE MY HAND AT THE AUCTION WHEN I'M LOW ON INVENTORY AND BUY VEHICLES, WE, THESE VEHICLES WERE SOMETIMES, UM, IN THE INSURANCE INCIDENT EIGHT MONTHS AGO.

AND THEY'VE, THEY'RE COMING THROUGH THE PROCESS.

SO IF I CAN DEVELOP THESE BODY SHOPS TO RELY ON US, THEN I CAN RELY ON THEM.

AND THAT CREATES A TRUST THAT WE USUALLY DO NOT HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH AS FAR AS THEY KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO AND WE'RE GONNA TEAR THAT CAR APART THE BEST WE POSSIBLY CAN.

THAT'S REASONABLE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE GETTING A GOOD QUALITY PRODUCT SO WE'RE NOT ON THE LINE LATER ON WHEN WE SELL THE VEHICLE.

RICH, THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, MR. PERGE, TWO QUESTIONS.

MR. JACKSON.

FIRST, KIND OF PIGGYBACKING ON COMMISSIONER'S BEACH, QUESTION OF THAT 10% THAT DOESN'T GET REJECTED, HOW MANY ICE PLATFORM VEHICLES, LIKE PERCENTAGE ARE YOU TRANSACTING? AND THEN QUESTION TWO IS AROUND ELECTRIFICATION.

DO YOU FORESEE THAT BECOMING A PROBLEM AS MORE ELECTRIC VEHICLES COME INTO THE MARKETPLACE AND DRIVING UP YOUR COSTS ON REPAIRS? AND SO WE'VE, WE'VE ADDRESSED THAT ACTUALLY ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO.

UH, RIGHT NOW THE INDUSTRY SELLS ABOUT, UM, 20% EVS AND THEY'RE DROPPING LIKE A ROCK.

AND SO WE ALWAYS WANT TO MIRROR WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE INDUSTRY SO WE DON'T GET LEFT BEHIND.

FIRST OF ALL, THERE'S A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT IN THAT PROCESS DEVELOPMENT OF THESE REBUILDS, THESE BODY SHOPS THAT ACTUALLY CAN REPAIR ONE OF THOSE VEHICLES.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SPECIAL SKILL SET TO REPAIR AN EV OUT THERE.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE CERTIFICATIONS IN ORDER TO GET PARTS FROM, LET'S SAY WE FOCUSED ON TESLAS WHEN WE WERE DOING IT.

TESLA HAS TO APPROVE THEM IN ORDER TO BUY PARTS FROM THEM, WHETHER THEY'RE BODY PARTS OR MECHANICAL PARTS FOR THEIR VEHICLES.

IF IT'S NOT TESLA THEMSELVES, THEY HAVE TO BE APPROVED.

SO WE ADDRESSED THAT AND WE, WE ACTUALLY UPPED OUR INVENTORY TO MATCH WHAT THE, UM, WHAT THE MARKET WAS SELLING IN THE VEHICLE.

SO WE DIDN'T GET LEFT BEHIND, UNFORTUNATELY.

UH, ELON MUSK, WHO PRETTY MUCH RUNS THE EV MARKET , HE UH, HE DECIDED TO THROW A BUNCH OF MONEY ON THE HOOD IN THE WAY OF REBATES ON THESE VEHICLES THAT TANKED THE VALUE OF A LOT OF EVS THAT WERE OUT THERE BECAUSE HE PUT REBATES ON 'EM THAT HE'D NEVER DONE BEFORE.

UM, DEALERSHIPS LIKE CARMAX TOOK MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN LOSSES TO GET RID OF THOSE CARS IMMEDIATELY BECAUSE IF THEY HELD ONTO THEM FOR RETAIL, THEY WERE AFRAID THEY WOULD HOLD THEM OR THAT THEY WOULD TAKE EVEN GREATER LOSSES ON THEM.

UH, WE FORTUNATELY AT THE TIME, WE PROBABLY HAD FIVE TO SEVEN EVS AT EACH OF OUR DEALERSHIPS.

SO WE WERE TESTING THE MARKET TO SEE WHAT THE MARKET WOULD, UH, WHAT WE COULD JUSTIFY PUTTING OUT THERE IN THE MARKET IN THESE DIFFERENT AREAS.

AND WE, WE DID OKAY WITH THEM.

THEY WEREN'T, THEY WEREN'T A GREAT SELLER.

THEY, THEY WEREN'T A BOTTOM SELLER.

UH, MARGINS WERE SIMILAR, BUT THE TIME TO REPAIR WAS GREATER.

BUT WE FIGURED THAT'S JUST PART OF THE BUSINESS.

WE, WE NEED TO ADAPT TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

AND CURRENTLY WE DON'T EVEN OFFER AN EV UNLESS IT'S A VEHICLE THAT HAD BEEN TRADED IN ON ONE OF OUR LATE MODELS BECAUSE WE SEE THE DIRECTION OF EV AND IT'S NOT A POSITIVE DIRECTION RIGHT NOW BASED OFF OF, UM, THE SUPPORT ISSUES THEY'RE HAVING WITH CHARGING STATIONS AND THE EFFECTIVENESS AND THE SPEED OF THAT.

SO WE'VE BACKED AWAY FROM IT.

SO WE, WE DID ADDRESS IT AND WE TRIED TO MATCH WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE MARKET, BUT AS THE MARKET DROPPED ON THEM, WE DROPPED AS WELL UNTIL WE JUST EXITED FROM THAT AND WE'LL GET BACK INTO IT IF IT HAPPENS AGAIN.

THANK YOU.

MM-HMM.

, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANOTHER ONE HAS OCCURRED TO ME.

UM, DO YOU TAKE ANY TRADE-INS? I DO.

SO, SO DO THEY GO BACK THROUGH A REFURBISHMENT OR HOW, HOW DO YOU HANDLE THAT? WELL, THE MAJORITY OF OUR TRADE-INS ARE COMING IN.

THEY'RE CLEAN TITLE CARS.

UM, WE CALL THEM THE BLACK SHEEP.

WE, WE DON'T DEAL WITH THEM MUCH, BUT NO, WE, CONSIDERING WE SELL 2 1 2 3-YEAR-OLD MODEL CARS IS WHAT WE FOCUS ON.

YEAH.

WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF TRADES COMING IN AND WE OFFER THOSE FOR SALE AS WELL ON OUR, ON OUR LOT.

AND YES, THEY DO GO THROUGH AN INSPECTION, BUT THEY DON'T GO THROUGH A RIGOROUS INSPECTION THAT, UH, OUR VEHICLES DO BECAUSE IF WE'RE SEEING NO SIGNS OF PREVIOUS DAMAGE OR REPAIR OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THEN WE DON'T RUN IT THROUGH.

PERIODICALLY WE WILL GET ANOTHER BRANDED TITLE VEHICLE IN THAT CAME FROM A BODY SHOP SOMEWHERE, AND THOSE WILL GO THROUGH THOSE SAME INSPECTIONS.

AND WHEN WE'RE TALKING PERCENTAGES, UH, UH, PROBABLY A 70 TO 80% OF THOSE DON'T PASS OUR INSPECTION PROCESS AND WE SEND THEM TO THE AUCTION TO GET RID OF 'EM.

WE CAN'T AFFORD FOR OUR IMAGE TO BE TARNISHED BY SOMEBODY

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ALRIGHT.

I HAVE AN ADDITIONAL QUESTION.

YES, MR. ROBERTS.

SO MR. JACKSON, JUST FOR, UM, THIS PARTICULAR RIGHT IS PROPOSED FOR FIVE YEARS.

CAN YOU JUST KIND OF TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS AT THE END OF FIVE YEARS IF IT'S NOT EXTENDED? UM, WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL RENEGOTIATE AT THAT TIME WITH THE, UH, PROPERTY OWNER AND SEE WHERE HE IS ON THE DEVELOPMENT PROJECT THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED AND NEGOTIATE SOMETHING OUT OF THERE.

BUT IT, WHAT IT DOES IS IT GETS ME INTO THIS COMMUNITY WHERE THAT WE'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR, WE WANT TO BE IN A AREA LIKE THIS.

WE USUALLY DO, WE TRY TO STAY OUT OF SUBPRIME AREAS, WE TRY TO STAY MORE INTO IT IF AFFLUENT NEIGHBORHOODS, THAT'S WHO BUYS OUR CARS.

WE DON'T DO A LOT OF SPECIAL FINANCING, WE DO ZERO BUY HERE, PAY HERE, EVERYTHING IS LATE MODEL.

THE AVERAGE PRICE OF OUR CARS ARE ALMOST $25,000.

SO, UM, WE'RE VERY CAREFUL ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE DOING THERE IN THE FUTURE.

SO WE WILL, WE WOULD JUST, UM, TRY TO NEGOTIATE AGAIN IF, IF THERE'S BEEN NO PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AT PLAY AT THAT POINT, THEN WE WILL ASK FOR AN EXTENSION AND IT'LL BE UP TO THE LANDLORD OR PROPERTY OWNER TO DECIDE WHETHER THAT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST FOR THE PROPERTY.

THANK YOU.

SO YOU'RE SAYING I DON'T PAY ABOUT THE WEED? SAY THAT AGAIN.

DON'T PAY ABOUT THE WEED.

NO, NO, NO, NO.

MS. ICK, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? I QUESTION.

OH, ALRIGHT.

ALRIGHT.

UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WE GOOD? ALRIGHT.

UH, THANK YOU.

AND, UH, WE'LL ASK IF THERE ARE ANY, UH, UH, COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE.

OKAY.

THANKS FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU.

YES, SIR.

AND ARE, ARE YOU BY CHANCE THE PERSON WHO MENTIONED YOU WOULD BE HERE? I AM.

OKAY, GOOD.

I APOLOGIZE FOR MISSING THE AGENDA ITEM ON THE, OKAY.

SIGN UP.

UH, MY NAME IS SCOTT RICK MOORE, 9 2 3 BLUE LAKE CIRCLE.

UM, WITH RESPECT TO THE APPLICANT, I'M HERE TO OPPOSE HIS REQUEST.

UM, I HEARD A LOT OF GREAT THINGS ABOUT THE PRODUCT THAT HE'S PRESENTING HERE TO OUR COMMUNITY, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT IS GOOD ENOUGH TO ROLL BACK OUR ZONING FIVE YEARS AND THEN EXTEND THAT OUT ANOTHER FIVE YEARS.

THIS IS A PREMIUM SITE, IT'S A GATEWAY TO EAST RICHARDSON.

WHY WOULD WE EVER ALLOW A USED CAR LOT? WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, IT IS A USED CAR LOT TO GO INTO.

WHAT IS A TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT SITE? UM, I, I FEEL BAD BECAUSE I, I FEEL LIKE THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY'S BEEN MARKETING THIS AS A USED CAR LOT SITE AND I, I HOPE THAT YOU GUYS ALL TAKE THIS VERY SERIOUSLY.

UH, RICHARDSON IS AT THIS MOMENT OF JUST POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ALONG THAT CORRIDOR.

ARAPAHOE HAS SO MUCH OPPORTUNITY.

THERE'S SO MANY SITES JUST PRIME FOR REDEVELOPMENT AND THE IQ DISTRICT IS GROWING.

I, I DON'T SEE HOW THIS MAKES ANY SENSE FOR RICHARDSON AT THIS TIME.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

I, I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THIS UNDER CONSIDERATION AND I, I DO ASK THAT YOU OPPOSE THIS REQUEST TONIGHT.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

YES.

UH, SIR, WE COULD, WOULD YOU MIND ENTERTAINING A QUESTION? ABSOLUTELY.

I'D JUST BE CURIOUS.

UH, SENSE OF PROPERTY, I BELIEVE IS VACANT NOW.

YEP.

WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, LEAVING IN VACANT UNTIL SOME OTHER OPPORTUNITY COMES ALONG? UM, WELL, I I THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT ANSWER.

UH, SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REAL ESTATE HERE, HIGHEST AND BEST USE FOR THE PROPERTIES.

WE SHOULD GO THERE AND IF WE ALLOW, UH, WHAT IS A NON-CONFORMING USE IN THIS CASE? UM, IT, IT JUST SETS BACK THE CLOCK, ANOTHER FIVE, 10 YEARS ON THIS, ON THIS REDEVELOPMENT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT DART IS DOING NEXT DOOR.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROPERTY MIGHT HAVE PLANNED, BUT, UM, I, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK LEAVING IT VACANT, UH, HURTS THE CITY AS LONG AS IT'S WELL KEPT AND I DRIVE BY EVERY DAY AS I TAKE MY KIDS TO PRESCHOOL AT, AT PLAN ON PLANO ROAD IN ARAPAHOE, I, THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO REASON WE SHOULD ROLL BACK.

UH, WHAT IS A GREAT VISION FOR THIS DISTRICT? UM, JUST TO ALLOW A PROPERTY OWNER TO HAVE SOMETHING

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THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

DO YOU HAVE QUESTION? OH, ANOTHER ONE? IS IT THE LOCKUP PERIOD OF THE FIVE YEARS OR THE CONSTERNATION AROUND THE, UH, PARKING LOT KIND OF SCENE GOING ON? THAT'S KIND OF MORE, I MEAN, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ARAPAHOE AND GREENVILLE AVENUE.

IT'S THE GATEWAY TO EAST RICHARDSON AS YOU, AS YOU EXIT 75 AND YOU, UM, PROCEED DOWN ARAPAHOE.

THAT'S THE FIRST THING ANYBODY LOOKING TO GO IN AND DEVELOP THE AREA IS GONNA SEE.

THEY'RE GONNA SEE A USED CAR LOT.

AND I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF AUTO LOTS IN RICHARDSON, BUT, UM, THIS ONE DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME.

I, I WOULDN'T BE DOWN HERE SPEAKING ABOUT IT IF IT MADE SENSE.

THAT'S HELPFUL.

THANK YOU.

YEP.

ALRIGHT.

ALRIGHT.

THANKS GUYS.

THANK YOU FOR COMING.

ALRIGHT.

UH, ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE, UH, THE AUDIENCE? THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING.

UM, PAT HANAHAN, 92 18 HEATHERDALE DRIVE.

UM, I'M HERE WITH BERT COMMERCIAL AND A PART OWNER OF THIS PARTICULAR, UH, PROPERTY, UM, AS WELL AS SOME OF THE SURROUNDING STUFF.

SO I, I APPRECIATE THE, THE COMMENTS OF FEEDBACK BECAUSE I, WE DO TEND TO AGREE AND ALIGN ULTIMATELY IN THE LONG TERM.

WE, WE OWN THIS SITE, UM, AS WELL AS THE NEIGHBORING SEVEN ACRES, UH, TO THE EAST AS WELL AS THE LAST PROJECT, UH, TO THE WEST THAT BIRDIE BAY WAS SUBMITTING AN APPLICATION FOR, UM, IN ORDER TO GET A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.