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CALL THIS MEETING THE RICHARDSON CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER.
FIRST ON OUR AGENDA, WE'LL CALL ON COUNCIL MEMBER DAN BAREZ.
TO LEAD US IN THE INVOCATION AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, PLEASE JOIN ME.
PRAYER FIRST, PLEASE JOIN ME IN PRAYER.
FIRST, GOD, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY, FOR THIS CHANCE TO COME TOGETHER TO BE STEWARDS OF THE CITY, TO MAKE DECISIONS THAT BENEFIT ALL.
WE ASK FOR YOUR WISDOM, FOR YOUR CLARITY.
WE ASK THAT OUR EARS BE OPEN, UM, TO EVERYTHING THAT'S GONNA BE SAID TONIGHT.
AND WE ASK FOR PEACE AND CALM THIS EVENING.
PLEASE JOIN ME FOR PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
NOW, FOR THE TEXAS PLEDGE, HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD.
[3. MINUTES OF THE SEPTEMBER 16, 2024 MEETING]
FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER 16TH, 2024.MR. HUTCHIN RIDER, MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER 16TH, 2024 MEETINGS AS PUBLISHED.
GOT A SECOND OUTTA MR. UH, DORIAN.
ALL IN FAVOR? SHOW OF HANDS, PLEASE.
[4. PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS AND VISITORS FORUM]
TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS AND VISITOR FORUM.UM, WE ARE IN RECEIPT OF A NUMBER OF, UH, CARDS REGARDING, UH, ZONING FILE 24 16, UM, THIS EVENING.
UM, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND READ THE INSTRUCTIONS AS WELL AS IDENTIFY, UM, THOSE THAT HAVE SUBMITTED A CARD IN ADVANCE OF THE 5:00 PM DEADLINE.
UM, AND, UM, SO LET ME, LET ME PROVIDE THE INSTRUCTION, THEN WE'LL GO THROUGH THAT.
SO DURING THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING, 30 MINUTES IS ALLOCATED FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO PROVIDE COMMENTS TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON AGENDA ITEMS. IF YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK ON A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM, PLEASE WAIT UNTIL THAT PUBLIC HEARING IS OPENED.
IF THERE IS TIME LEFT DURING THE INITIAL 30 MINUTES ALLOCATED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, THE REMAINING TIME WILL BE PROVIDED AS A VISITOR'S FORUM OPEN TO ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ANY TOPIC IN WHICH THE SUBJECT MATTER IS WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE CITY.
IF THE FIRST, IF THE FULL 30 MINUTES ALLOCATED FOR PUBLIC COMMENT IS REACHED, THEN SPEAKERS WHO HAVE SUBMITTED A PUBLIC COMMENT CARD MAY SPEAK AT THE VISITOR'S FORUM SCHEDULED AT THE END OF THE MEETING, ALL SPEAKERS SHOULD COMPLETE A PUBLIC COMMENT CARD AND SUBMIT IT TO THE CITY SECRETARY BEFORE THE MEETING BEGINS.
SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER THAT THEY'RE RECEIVED.
WHEN YOUR NAME IS CALLED, PLEASE STEP TO THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
ALL SPEAKERS WILL BE LIMITED TO A MAXIMUM OF FIVE MINUTES AS INDICATED BY THE TIMERS.
WHEN THE TIMER BEEPS, THE SPEAKER SHOULD CONCLUDE THEIR COMMENTS PROMPTLY.
SPEAKERS MUST NOT PHYSICALLY APPROACH MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL OR STAFF AND SHOULD REMAIN AT THE PODIUM DURING THEIR COMMENTS.
SPEAKERS WITH HANDOUTS MUST PROVIDE THEM TO THE CITY'S SECRETARY FOR DISTRIBUTION.
SPEAKERS, UH, SPEAKERS SUBMITTING COMMENTS ON THE SAME TOPIC ARE ENCOURAGED TO REDUCE REPETITIVE REMARKS BY INDICATING THEIR COMMENTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN ADDRESSED, OR BY SELECTING A REPRESENTATIVE.
THE TEXAS OPEN MEETING ACT PROHIBITS THE CITY COUNCIL FROM DISCUSSING OR TAKING ACTION ON ITEMS THAT ARE NOT POSTED ON THE AGENDA.
CITY COUNCIL AND STAFF WILL NOT AFFIRM OR OPPOSE ANY SPEAKER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.
THE MAYOR AND CITY MANAGER MAY RESPOND WITH FACTS, A POLICY OR DIRECT CITY STAFF TO RESPOND TO THE SPEAKER.
AFTER THE MEETING, THE AUDIENCE IS ASKED TO REFRAIN FROM APPLAUDING OR OTHER EXPRESSIONS OF SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION, A COPY OF THE COUNCIL RULES OF ORDER AND PROCEDURE.
AND THESE GUIDELINES MAY BE FOUND ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE AT THIS TIME.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE TO ASSIGN THEIR CELL PHONES DURING THE REMAINDER OF THE MEETING.
UM, THEN MAY BEGIN BY ACKNOWLEDGING, UM, WE RECEIVED A CARD FROM MS. UH, FANNIE DAVIS OF 3 0 5 ST.
LUKE'S DRIVE, UH, ON, UM, UH, THE RICHARDSON ECOSYSTEM.
AND I WANT TO ASSURE MS. DAVIS THAT THAT CARD HAS BEEN PRO PROVIDED TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR, UH, FOR YOUR REVIEW.
I'M GONNA READ NEXT, UH, THE, UH, THE CARDS THAT WE RECEIVED FROM SPEAKERS THAT ARE OPPOSED TO ZONING FILE, UH, 24 16 AND THAT ARE NOT SPEAKING, OR HAVE INDICATED THAT THEY DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK TONIGHT.
UH, VICKI PARKER, 34 17 NORWOOD COURT RICHARDSON.
UH, MARSHA GRAU, 1001 LAURIE DRIVE, UH, RICHARDSON, UH, DANIEL KY, 1801 GREENVILLE AVENUE, UH, RICHARDSON, JESSICA 5 22 BISHOP AVENUE, UH, RICHARDSON RASH, YURI, EIGHT 50 CECIL DRIVE.
I'M SORRY, MS. THOMAS HAS INDICATED SHE'S GONNA SPEAK.
UM, MARK, UH, SAIN 700, UH, SCOTTSDALE DRIVE IN RICHARDSON, UH, LINDA LENIUS, 1704 SYRACUSE DRIVE, RICHARDSON STEWART
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TINSLEY, 8 0 7 WESTWOOD, UH, DRIVE IN RICHARDSON, UH, STORM SMALL RICK AMORE.1426 MONT DRIVE, UH, IN RICHARDSON, UH, DAVIS, HOW 9 0 5 WEST PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH HIGHWAY, UM, IN RICHARDSON, UH, DINA MWA, 1125 EASTERN RENA ROAD, UH, RICHARDSON, THOMAS HOWIE, ONE 13 DOGWOOD DRIVE, UH, RICHARDSON.
UH, CANDY CHASE, 1706 SYRACUSE DRIVE, RICHARDSON SHELL SHEPHERD.
UH, RICHARDSON, MOHAMMED CELINE, 8 49 ROHAN DRIVE.
UH, JEFF DOUGLAS, UH, SIX 40 NORTH IN URBAN, UH, RICHARDSON.
14, OH, I'M SORRY, 1004 DUNBARTON DRIVE.
RICHARDSON, UH, SCOTT RICK AMORE, 9 23.
UM, I'M SORRY, SCOTT IS SPEAKING.
UH, FOUR 10 NORTH CENTRAL DRIVE.
NORTH CENTRAL DRIVE, RICHARDSON.
UM, DAVID HARRELL, 38 24 SLEEPY PLACE, DALLAS.
UM, OKAY, THOSE, UH, ION COUNSEL ARE IN OPPOSITION TO ZONING FILE, UH, 24 16.
I'LL READ THOSE THAT ARE IN SUPPORT.
UH, MATT CROUCH, UM, RICHARDSON, SAM HILU RICHARDSON, NO ADDRESS GIVEN FOR THE PRIOR TWO.
UH, NICHOLAS, UH, TUKA, 1801 NORTH GREENVILLE RICHARDSON, JAMESON GREEN, 1705 NORTH GREENVILLE, UH, RICHARDSON, ROCHELLE GUTIERREZ LAMA 1801 NORTH GREENVILLE RICHARDSON, JAN 2204 BRIARCREST DRIVE, PLANO QUINN CASE 1801 NORTH GREENVILLE DRIVE, RICHARDSON.
UM, AND THOSE ARE THE CARDS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED IN ADVANCE OF THE 5:00 PM DEADLINE.
UH, THERE ARE OTHER OTHERS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED, BUT THEY ALL INDICATE THAT THEY'RE GONNA SPEAK THIS EVENING AND THAT'LL OCCUR, UH, DURING THE CONSIDERATION OF THAT CASE.
MAYOR, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MS. NEER TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYONE WHO IS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, UM, ON AN AGENDA ITEM OR IN THE VISITOR'S FORM.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
MY NAME IS SHERRY DUNCAN HUBERT.
I LIVE AT 1614 SALEM COURT, AND I DECIDED TO COME SPEAK TO THE COUNSEL OVER THIS STRANGE, UM, ORDINANCE TO DO THE CHARTER CHANGES THAT YOU DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO.
MOST OF YOU KNOW, I SAT THROUGH THE JORDAN TRIAL AND OUR FORMER MAYOR IS IN FEDERAL PRISON FOR VIOLATING HER OATH OF OFFICE.
AND I THINK WE NEED TO GET SOME CLARITY ON WHAT THE CITY HAS BEEN DOING FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS.
AND I'LL START WITH THE TESTIMONY OF THE FORMER CITY MANAGER, DAN JOHNSON IN THE JORDAN TRIAL AND PETE SMITH TESTIMONY IN THE JORDAN TRIAL.
YOU WERE ALLUDING TO THAT YOU WERE SOME KIND OF CORPORATION INSTEAD OF A HOME RULE CITY.
AND I THINK WE NEED TO START CLARIFYING THAT.
AND I HAVE SENT YOU A REQUEST FOR THE POST YOU PUT UP OVER A YEAR AGO THAT YOU ARE A SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT, A UN AGENDA CITY, AND HAVE YOUR CERTIFICATION IN SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT.
AND SO I MADE AN OPEN RECORDS REQUEST FOR THAT.
I ASKED FOR WHO FILED IT, IF YOU PAID A FEE TO IT, AND WHO YOU MADE THE REQUEST TO.
AND MS. ER RESPONDED TO ME WITH NO DOCUMENTS, RESPONSIVE, AND THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT.
SO, MR. FILE, WHEN YOU SAY YOU'RE THE CFO, AND DAN SAYS HE'S THE CEO WHEN WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE A SVI TRUST AND A HOME RURAL CITY, I THINK WE NEED TO CLARIFY WHICH WE ARE.
MS. EMER WAS NOT THERE, AND I REQUESTED YOUR WRITTEN OATH OF OFFICE GUARANTEEING THAT YOU WILL DEFEND, PROTECT, AND UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION AND THE CHARTER, THE PEOPLE'S DOCUMENT.
I ALSO ASKED FOR, UM, FINANCIAL STATEMENTS THAT YOU'RE REQUIRED TO FILE ON APRIL 30TH EVERY YEAR, GUARANTEEING THAT YOU DON'T HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN ANYTHING THAT'S GOING ON.
AND THE TESTIMONY IN THE JORDAN CASE PROVED IT'S PROLIFIC.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE GET ON A
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STRAIGHT, HONORABLE, EQUITABLE AND BALANCED PATH ON WHAT YOU'RE CHOOSING TO DO.YOU DO NOT REPRESENT THE CITY AS YOU STATED IN YOUR GOALS.
YOU REPRESENT THE PEOPLE WHO ELECTED YOU.
YOU ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE AS SURETY BOND GUARANTEEING YOU WILL PROTECT THE RIGHTS OF THE PEOPLE UNDER HOME RULE.
SO WE ARE EITHER SOME KIND OF FAKE CORPORATION OR WE ARE A HOME RURAL CITY.
AND I'M GONNA ASK ONE MORE TIME WITH THE DOCUMENTS THAT I GAVE TO YOU.
I WANT THAT CERTIFICATION FOR SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT.
YOU CAN HAVE IT REMOVED FROM THE WEBSITE, BUT THE PIECE YOU DIDN'T DO WAS TO GO TO THE NGO CALLED, UH, COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS AND HAVE IT REMOVED THAT YOU DECLARED EAST SIDE A SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT IN RICHARDSON AS ONE OF YOUR GOALS.
SO I'VE TAKEN A SCREENSHOT OF THE WEBSITE, WHETHER YOU TOOK IT DOWN OR NOT, IT EXISTS.
AND I'M ASKING YOU, DON, UNDER YOUR CONTRACT, WHETHER THIS WAS SOMEBODY ELSE OR NOT, TO, LET'S PROVE IT UP.
LET'S GO BACK AND DECLARE THAT WE ARE A HOME RULE CITY AND THE UN AGENDA DOES NOT MATTER AND BE HONORABLE AND EQUITABLE WITH EACH OTHER FROM NOW ON.
IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK FOR? I WILL BE HAPPY TO MEET WITH YOU, UH, LATER, AND WE CAN HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.
I WANNA MEET WITH EVERY ONE OF THE COUNCIL PEOPLE TOO.
YOU ADDRESSED THAT QUESTION TO ME.
AND AMY HAS JUST TOLD ME THAT THERE YOUR OATH OF OFFICE IN THERE, YOU DO HAVE PERSONAL LIABILITY.
THAT'S THE REASON YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE AS SURETY BOND GUARANTEEING YOU WILL RESPECT THE JOB OF THE PEOPLE, NOT THE CITY.
SO SHE'S TELLING ME YOUR SURETY BOND IS UNDER THE GENERAL LIABILITY, AND THAT'S IMPROPER.
I THINK THE CONSTITUTION MATTERS.
YOU CANNOT STATE A PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THIS COUNTRY AND THIS CITY AND BE A UN AGENDA CITY AT THE SAME TIME.
ALL OF YOU HAVE MY PHONE NUMBER, CALL ME AND LET'S TALK ABOUT THIS AND LET'S GET ON A CLEAR PATH AGAIN.
I ASKED FOR YOU THIS AFTERNOON AND I HAD HOPED YOU'D CALL ME BACK, BUT THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
SO WE'LL GET THIS SET UP AND I WANT THOSE DOCUMENTS.
NO FURTHER CARDS FOR OPEN FORM, MA'AM.
[5. PRESENTATION BY THE TEXAS STATE FIRE MARSHAL FOR RECOGNITION OF INSURANCE SERVICES OFFICE (ISO) CLASS 1]
TIME WE'LL GO TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE.PRESENT, UH, THE STATE FIRE MARSHAL FOR RECOGNITION OF THE ISO CLASS ONE MAYOR AND COUNSEL.
UH, VERY, VERY EXCITED TONIGHT TO HAVE, UH, CHIEF, UH, CHIEF DEBRA KNIGHT, OUR STATE FIRE MARSHAL, AND, UH, ASSISTANT CHIEF, UH, CHUCK ALLEN, WHO'S THE ASSISTANT, UH, UH, STATE FIRE MARSHAL WITH US TONIGHT TO, UH, PRESENT TO, UM, OUR RICHARDSON FIRE DEPARTMENT AND ALL OF OUR, UH, PARTNER DEPARTMENTS THAT, UH, ARE SO SUPPORTIVE, UH, IN THE ISO CERTIFICATION PROCESS, UM, WITH THE, UH, RE-DESIGNATION OF RICHARDSON IS A, UH, CLASS ONE ISO UH, CITY AND CHIEF.
I JUST WANNA TELL YOU PERSONALLY, HOW PROUD, UH, WE ARE OF, UH, YOU AND YOUR LEADERSHIP, UH, AND YOUR LEADERSHIP TEAM FOR THE DEPARTMENT.
UH, THIS IS, UH, RARE AIR, UH, THAT, UH, THAT YOU PLACE THE CITY OF RICHARDSON IN, UH, WITH ALL OF OUR, AGAIN, WITH ALL OF OUR PARTNER DEPARTMENTS.
AND WE ARE VERY APPRECIATIVE FOR ALL THE HARD WORK THAT GOES INTO, UH, ACHIEVING THIS DESIGNATION.
AND SO, UM, CHIEF KNIGHT, CHIEF ALLEN, THANKS FOR BEING HERE AND COMING UP FROM AUSTIN, UH, FOR THIS VERY IMPORTANT RECOGNITION.
CHIEF, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU.
UH, MAYOR COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO, UH, BE HERE WITH YOU TONIGHT.
UH, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE ALL THE STAFF PRESENT THAT, UH, HELP MAKE THIS HAPPEN.
WE HAVE ASSISTANT CHIEF, YOUNGER ASSISTANT CHIEF CENTER, UM, ASSISTANT CHIEF AND FIRE MARSHAL CASKEY FROM OUR 9 1 1 CENTER, UH, FOR PD 9 1 1 CENTER.
WE HAVE, UH, COMMUNICATIONS MANAGER, KURO, I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU'RE AT HERE, THERE SOMEWHERE.
WE HAVE PUBLIC SERVICES DIRECTOR ERIC ROBINSON, UH, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR BRAD BERNHARDT AND UTILITY SYSTEM SUPERINTENDENT BRAD DUNN.
SO THE THREE DEPARTMENTS ARE PRIMARILY WHERE THE GRADING TAKES PLACE.
BUT I'LL TELL YOU, A FEW MONTHS AGO, WE WERE VERY PROUD TO ANNOUNCE THAT AFTER A RE REVIEW FROM THE INSURANCE SERVICES OFFICE, WE GET TO RE REMAIN A CLASS ONE ISO FOR THIS CITY, THE ENTIRE CITY.
MAINTAINING THAT CLASS ONE IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT, AS WE ALL KNOW TO OUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE IT ALLOWS THE CITIZENS AND BUSINESSES THAT HAVE THE BEST, UH, INSURANCE RATES POSSIBLE.
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THAT ALSO PLAYS A, A EXTREMELY IMPORTANT ROLE IN OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.ISO GRADES, UH, CONSISTS OF 50% FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, 40% FROM THE WATER DEPARTMENT ON HYDRANTS PRIMARILY, AND 10% FROM OUR 9 1 1 DISPATCH.
AND, UH, UH, 9 1 1 DISPATCH CENTER.
SO IT'S THOSE THREE DEPARTMENTS.
BUT I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, THOSE THREE DEPARTMENTS CAN'T DO WHAT WE DO, UM, TO MAKE THIS RATING WITHOUT EVERY OTHER DEPARTMENT IN THE CITY.
WE HAVE THE TRUCKS, WE HAVE THE ENGINES, WE HAVE PEOPLE, WE HAVE TRAINING, UH, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC SERVICES HAS THE HYDRANTS, DISPATCH HAS ALL THE DISPATCH STUFF AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.
BUT IT TAKES PURCHASING, IT TAKES FINANCE, IT TAKES HUMAN RESOURCES, IT TAKES FLEET FACILITIES AND ALL THAT TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.
SO THIS TRULY IS A WIN FOR THE ENTIRE CITY THAT THE, THE ENTIRE CITY, ALL THE EMPLOYEES PUT TOGETHER.
SO KUDOS TO THE ENTIRE CITY STAFF FOR, UM, PUTTING THIS TOGETHER IS QUITE THE FEET.
YOU'VE GOT TONS AND TONS OF DATA CHIEF N MIGHT ADDRESS, UH, THAT GOES INTO THIS.
IF YOU CAN IMAGINE, WE HAVE TO HAVE INFORMATION ON EVERY FIRE HYDRANT, EVERY FIRE ENGINE, EVERY, UH, OR EVERY STREET.
PUTTING THAT TOGETHER IS EXTREMELY, UH, UH, A BIG TASK.
AND THE MAN BEHIND THAT IS ASSISTANT CHIEF YOUNGER.
SO HE IS THE GUY FROM THE CITY THAT PUT IT ALL TOGETHER.
SO, CHIEF YOUNGER, THANK YOU FOR, UH, MAKING THIS HAPPEN.
SO, UH, WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE CHIEF KNIGHT.
UH, CHIEF KNIGHT IS OUR CURRENT TEXAS STATE FIRE MARSHAL.
ALSO WITH US, UH, AS DON MENTIONED, IS CHUCK ALLEN, THE ASSISTANT FIRE MARSHAL.
AND, UM, THANK YOU FOR INVITING US HERE.
AND, UH, THIS IS A, THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST PARTS OF MY JOB IS BEING ABLE TO RECOGNIZE WHEN A COMMUNITY HAS PUT IN WHAT IT TAKES TO, TO SUSTAIN A, A CLASS ONE.
TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE IS.
WE ARE THE STATE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE.
WE ARE A DIVISION OF THE DEPARTMENT OF INSURANCE ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
THERE ARE AS MANY, UM, THERE, EVERYONE HAS A STATE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE, UH, WHERE THOSE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICES SIT IN THAT STATE, OR AS MANY STATES AS, IT'S ALL DIFFERENT, BUT QUITE A FEW OF THEM ARE IN THE DEPARTMENTS OF INSURANCE.
AND THE REASON THEY'RE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INSURANCE IS WAY BACK WHEN.
AND STILL CURRENTLY, INSURANCE COMPANIES, ONE OF THE BIGGEST RISKS ASSOCIATED THAT INSURANCE COMPANIES HAVE TO PAY OUT FOR CLAIMS ARE, ARE FIRE, RIGHT
AND, UH, THEY ARE VERY WILLING TO FUND ANYTHING THAT'S, THAT'S GOING TO DECREASE THAT RISK.
AND SO PART OF WAY WE'RE FUNDED IS THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF INSURANCE, THROUGH INSURANCE COMPANIES, MAINTENANCE, TAXES THAT PAY DEPARTMENT OF INSURANCE, AND THEN FUNDS AND FUNDS, UM, THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE.
SO THAT'S KIND OF WHY WE, WHY TEXAS DECIDED TO PUT US INTO THE DEPARTMENT OF INSURANCES FOR THAT FUNDING PURPOSES.
SO WE TALK ABOUT ISO VERY BRIEFLY.
ISO IS NOT PART OF THE DEPARTMENT OF INSURANCE.
IT IS NOT PART OF THE STATE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE, BUT IT IS AN ORGANIZATION THAT GOES AND IT, IT OPERATES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY WITH EV IN EVERY STATE.
AND IT EVALUATES A COMMUNITY'S ABILITY TO RESPOND TO AND SUPPRESS FIRES IN THAT COMMUNITY.
UM, AND INSURANCE COMPANIES, UH, THEY BUY, THEY BUY THAT PRO, THEY BUY THAT EVALUATION IN ORDER TO DO UNDERWRITE, UNDERWRITE THAT RISK IN THAT, IN THOSE COMMUNITIES.
THE, UM, THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, THERE ARE RIGHT AT ABOUT 500, UM, CLASS ONES.
SO IT, YOU'RE GIVEN A CLASS ONE TO 10, ONE BEING THE BEST, 10 NOT BEING SO GOOD,
UM, THERE'S ABOUT 500 THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY AND IN TEXAS WE HAVE 103 OF THOSE 500.
SO IN TEXAS, TEXAS IS VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE FIRE SERVICE.
UM, AND, UH, IT'S, IT'S A, UH, SO IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A GREAT PLACE TO BE, UM, IN THE FIRE SERVICE.
SO, UH, I DO WANNA RECOGNIZE SPECIFICALLY, UM, Y'ALL, AND THAT Y'ALL WERE LACERATED IN 2017, AND THEN YOU RATED AGAIN THIS PAST YEAR IN 2023.
AND IT IS, IT'S, UH, AS ALLUDED, IT'S A LOT OF DATA TO SUPPORT REALLY WHAT'S ON THE GROUND, RIGHT? SO IT'S, UM, IT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT TO LOOK TO, TO SUPPORT THAT, THAT ABILITY TO SUPPRESS THOSE FIRES AND TO RESPOND, RESPOND TO AND SUPPRESS THOSE FIRES IN THE COMMUNITY.
UM, Y'ALL TELL YOU, SO NORMALLY AS A COMMUNITY GROWS, THERE'S SOME GROWING PAINS ASSOCIATED WITH THE FIRE SERVICE AND, AND BEING ABLE TO, UM, THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE.
Y'ALL, YOU INCREASED YOUR, YOU INCREASED YOUR, UM, YOUR RATING OVERALL, E EVEN WITH YOUR INCREASE IN POPULATION, SPECIFICALLY YOUR TRAINING, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TRAINING, UH, UH, WENT UP FROM A 10.50 TO A 15%, UH, 15 POINTS JUST IN, UH, FOR THE TRAINING.
AND THEN ALSO PRETTY, UM, NOT SURPRISING, BUT REALLY UNUSUAL IS, UH, FOR THE WATER SUPPLY.
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UM, SO WE LOOK AT THE WATER SUPPLY AND Y'ALL INCREASED IN THE WATER SUPPLY.UM, ALSO, SO BOTH OF THOSE, UM, YOU, NOT ONLY DID YOU SUSTAIN YOUR ONE, YOU ACTUALLY WENT UP, UM, IN YOUR, IN THE ACTUAL GRADE, IF YOU REALLY WANT THE, IT WAS, UH, 94.89, AND NOW YOU'RE AT 95.15.
BUT REALLY, IT'S A ONE, RIGHT? Y'ALL ALL ONE.
SO, UM, SO I, I WANTED TO, UH, MAKE SURE TO, TO RECOGNIZE THAT AND TO, UM, TO, TO, UH, TO DEMONSTR TO, EXCUSE ME.
SO, UM, FOR ON BEHALF OF MYSELF, COMMISSIONER, UM, CASSIE BROWN FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF INSURANCE, UM, WE'D LIKE TO PRESENT THE CITY OF RICHARDSON.
'CAUSE IT'S NOT JUST THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, BUT, BUT YOU GET TO GET, YOU GET TO GET IT.
AND COUNSEL, IF, IF YOU WOULD LIKE, WE'D LIKE TO TAKE A PHOTO TO COMMEMORATE THE PRESENTATION TONIGHT.
SO, UH, CHIEF, DO YOU WANT, UM, THE, THE REMAINDER OF THE TEAM TO COME UP AS WELL? I WOULD LIKE THAT.
AND I'LL JUST SAY, ADD ONE LITTLE COMMENT TO THAT.
IT'S THE QUALITY AND EFFECTIVENESS OF WHAT THEY DO AS A TOTAL TEAM AND HOW THEY MERGE SO MANY DEPARTMENTS TOGETHER TO ACCOMPLISH THOSE GOALS.
SO WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE AND THEY DO A FANTASTIC JOB.
[6. REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE RICHARDSON CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION'S FY25 ARTS GRANT FUNDING RECOMMENDATIONS]
NOW GO TO ITEM NUMBER SIX, REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE RICHARDSON CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION PHYSICAL YEAR ARTS GRANT FUNDING RECOMMENDATION.MR. MANGER, UH, THANK YOU MAYOR COUNCIL, AS YOU, UH, VERY WELL KNOW, YOUR CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION SERVES, UH, YOU, UH, AS AN ADVISORY BOARD AND, UH, TO HELP PROMOTE THE ARTS AND RICHARDSON AND ONE OF THEIR MAJOR RESPONSIBILITIES EACH YEAR AS TO, UM, UM, INTERVIEW, UH, EVALUATE, AND THEN RECOMMEND, UH, THE AWARD OF YOUR ANNUAL ARTS GRANTS, UH, THIS YEAR.
VERY PROUD TO, UH, SAY THAT WE WERE ABLE TO INCREASE THAT TO $375,000.
UM, UH, ELIZABETH GONZALEZ, WHO IS THE VICE CHAIR, UH, IS HERE TONIGHT TO, UH, PRESENT ON BEHALF OF THE COMMISSION.
AND, UH, I KNOW OUR COUNCIL LIAISON, UH, COUNCILMAN, UH, DORIAN, UH, HAS BEEN BIG, BIG PART OF THIS EFFORT AS WELL.
AND SO MARY, UH, HE MAY HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD, UH, AT THE CONCLUSION OF ELIZABETH'S PRESENTATION.
ELIZABETH, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.
OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE REPRESENTING OUR COMMISSION.
UM, YOU KIND OF SAID A FEW THINGS ABOUT WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE DO AS A COMMISSION.
UM, WE FALL UNDER YOUR STRATEGIC GOAL OF, UM, GETTING UNIQUE OPPORTUNITIES IN RICHARDSON AND ATTRACTING SOME OF THOSE UNIQUE OPPORTUNITIES AND, UM, BRINGING THEM TO OUR RESIDENTS AND STAKEHOLDERS.
UM, THERE, HERE IS OUR LIST OF EVERYONE ON OUR COMMITTEE.
UM, WE HAVE ONE NEW COUNCIL PERSON OR, UH, CHAIRMAN, OR SORRY, COMMISSION MEMBER, UH, CYNTHIA, AND SHE JOINED, UM, AND THIS WAS HER FIRST, UH, INTERVIEW CYCLE.
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SERVE IN AS AN ADVISORY BOARD TO YOU GUYS.AND, UM, THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO THAT, UM, WE'VE ALREADY DONE FOR THIS YEAR.
WE HAD THE BIE BIENNIAL STATE OF THE ARTS ASSESSMENT.
THAT WAS, UH, EARLIER IN APRIL.
THEN, UM, OBVIOUSLY RIGHT NOW WE'RE, I'M PRESENTING THE RECOMMENDATIONS WE HAVE ON, UM, WHAT WE THINK, UH, WE SHOULD SPEND FOR, FOR THE, UM, CITY FUNDS.
AND THEN, UM, WE REVIEW THOSE ORGANIZATIONS AND THEN PROVIDE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, TO YOU.
AND THEN, UM, WE DO SERVE AS AMBASSADORS TO ALL OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS THROUGHOUT RICHARDSON BY BEING LIAISONS TO EACH OF THE ORGANIZATIONS AND THEN GOING TO PERFORMANCES, AND THEN TALKING UP ALL OF THESE PERFORMANCES TO FRIENDS, FAMILY, COWORKERS, ET CETERA.
SO OUR PROCESS STARTS IN, UM, SPRING, SUMMER.
WE, WE KIND OF GO THROUGH OUR APPLICATION EVERY YEAR AFTER, AFTER THE FACT.
SO RIGHT NOW, WE'LL, WE'LL BE MEETING TO GO OVER, UM, WHAT WE FOUND, UM, WAS USEFUL OR NOT USEFUL, AND THEN WE, UH, FINALIZE THE GUIDELINES AND APPLICATION FORMS. UM, AND WE MAKE THAT LIVE IN JUNE.
AND THEN THE ORGANIZATIONS HAVE UNTIL THE END OF JULY TO, UH, APPLY.
AND THEY PUT ALL OF THESE THINGS IN THESE, UM, UH, QUESTION.
THERE'S A QUESTIONNAIRE, THEIR STRATEGIC PLAN, THEIR FINANCIAL STATEMENTS, THEIR SEASON BUDGET, TAX FILING, A LOT OF, UH, A LOT OF PAPERWORK.
UM, ONCE THAT IS IN THE SYSTEM, UM, MCKAYLA AND HER TEAM, UH, GET THAT ALL TOGETHER FOR US.
AND WE SPEND, UM, ABOUT TWO WEEKS REVIEWING ALL OF THESE DETAILS.
AND THEN WE MEET WITH THE GROUPS ON A SATURDAY AND TAKE, UM, ABOUT, I THINK IT'S 10 TO 15 MINUTES PER GROUP.
AND THEY GIVE US THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THEIR APPLICATION, WE ASK QUESTIONS, ET CETERA.
AND THEN, UH, THE FOLLOWING THURSDAY, WE MEET AS A COMMISSION AND THEN, UM, PUT TOGETHER OUR, OUR FINDINGS, OUR GUIDELINES, UH, FINANCIALLY.
SO THIS YEAR WE HAD 24 APPLICATIONS, OR WE RECEIVED 24, UH, 23 APPLICANTS WERE REVIEW, WERE INTERVIEWED.
UM, OUT OF THOSE, THERE WERE FOUR NEW APPLICANTS.
AND, UH, THE REQUESTED, THE NUMBER REQUESTED WAS 650 600,000, UM, OF REQUESTED FUNDS.
AND AS YOU KNOW, DON ALREADY SAID THAT OUR BUDGET WAS 375,000.
UH, THIS IS KIND OF OVER TIME OF WHERE WE'VE BEEN ON OUR, UH, OUR FUNDING.
THE GRAY LINE IS WHAT WE'VE FUNDED, AND THEN THE DARK BLUE IS WHAT THE REQUESTS HAVE BEEN.
SO THIS YEAR, OUR EVALUATION ISN'T MUCH DIFFERENT THAN ANY OF THE OTHER YEARS, BUT WE FOCUS ON RICHARDSON, THE IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY, UH, SPECIFIC EFFORTS TO FURTHER THE CULTURAL ARTS MASTER PLAN, WHICH WE ALL WERE HERE MAYBE TWO MONTHS AGO.
WE KNOW THAT THAT'S UNDER REVIEW.
WE'RE GONNA BE GETTING A NEW ONE.
WE'RE ALSO CONSIDER THE FINANCIAL HEALTH OF THE ORGANIZATION.
AND, UM, THE ATTENDANCE OF THE, EITHER THE PRESIDENT OR THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, SOMEONE FROM THEIR ORGANIZATION NEEDS TO BE AT OUR ART WORKSHOPS.
WE HAVE TWO A YEAR AND ONE IN THE FALL AND ONE IN THE SPRING.
AND THEN WE HAVE LUNCH AND LEARN PROGRAMS, AND WE ALSO, UM, REALLY EXPECT THEM TO BE ATTENDING THOSE.
AND THEN ALSO, UM, THIS YEAR WE REALLY FOCUSED ON THE QUALITY OF THE APPLICATION AND MATERIALS.
UH, SOMEHOW I MIGHT HAVE MISSED A SLIDE.
HERE IS WHAT WE ARE RE UH, RECOMMENDING FOR EACH OF THE GROUPS.
UM, AND I'M NOT GONNA READ EVERY NUMBER.
YOU ALL CAN READ THAT, BUT WITH THE REQUEST OF 650, 600 AND THEN HAVING 375, WE CAN'T FUND EVERYBODY FULLY, BUT WE, UM, WE FEEL THAT WE MADE A GOOD CHOICE AND, UH, OUR HAVING EVERYBODY REPRESENTED THE FINANCIALLY, UM, EVERYBODY'S GETTING A GOOD PIECE OF THE PIE.
UM, I'M HAPPY TO EXPLAIN ANY OF THOSE NUMBERS TO ANYBODY IF YOU WOULD LIKE, BUT THAT'S KIND OF HOW WE BROKE IT OUT.
ELIZABETH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, YOUR PASSION, COMMITMENT.
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OF PRESENTING.JUST ASK MR. DORIAN IF HE WOULD LIKE TO ADD A FEW, UH, COMMENTS TO THIS, SHORE IT UP, AND THEN WE'LL SEE IF COUNCIL HAS ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.
UH, AND, AND, AND THANKS TO THE COMMISSION.
I KNOW IT'S A DIFFICULT DECISION WHILE DELIBERATING AND, AND REQUESTING OR, OR ALLOCATING FUNDS TO SO MANY ORGANIZATIONS.
IT TAKES A LOT OF YOUR TIME, YOUR THOUGHT, AND, AND I WAS A PART OF THAT EACH MEETING TO SEE HOW Y'ALL BALANCE THINGS AND, AND DISCUSS THINGS AND, AND ALSO HAD YOUR, UM, WE'RE KIND OF OPEN-MINDED TO SEE AND LOOK AT DIFFERENT NEW TALENT COMING IN AND HOW BEST REPRESENTED, UH, FOR RICHARDSON.
SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THE TIME AND EFFORT THAT THANK YOU, UH, THE COMMISSION HAS PUT INTO THIS.
AND, AND, UM, JUST KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK AND, UH, WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO, UH, SEEING WHAT THESE GROUPS WILL, UH, CONTINUE WITH.
YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO ADD, UH, MY THANKS.
AND ALSO JUST SAY HOW IMPORTANT THESE ORGANIZATIONS ARE.
RICHARDSON READS ONE BOOK, THE EVENT IS THIS WEEK.
I THINK THE SYMPHONY OPENS NEXT MONTH, AND SO THEY'RE AMAZING ARTS HAPPENING IN THE CITY.
AND I, IT'S SO IMPORTANT IN THE WORK THAT YOU DO TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN FUND THESE AMAZING ORGANIZATIONS.
UM, AND I, I KNOW HOW MANY HOURS GOES INTO IT, SO I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU, AND I'M EXCITED FOR, UM, ALL THE ART AND CULTURE THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE IN THE NEXT YEAR BECAUSE OF THE GREAT WORK YOU AND THE COMMISSION DID.
WELL, THANK YOU FOR, YOU KNOW, ALL THE HARD WORK THE TEAM HAS DONE.
REALLY GREAT JOB AS USUAL ALL THE YEARS.
AND I SEE THAT THE STRUGGLE HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, GOING DOWN A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE THE FUNDING FOR THE PROGRAM, YOU KNOW, IT WAS DOWN LAST FEW YEARS.
AND I'M SO HAPPY THAT NOW WE HAVE PREACHED PRETTY MUCH ABOUT THE SAME PRE COVID LEVEL.
AND, UH, RICHARDSON IS MOVING FORWARD.
THANK YOU FOR BEING PART OF THAT TEAM.
THANK YOU, ELIZABETH, FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK, AS OTHERS HAVE SAID.
UM, AND THE LAST FEW MONTHS I'VE HEARD FROM MULTIPLE RESIDENTS, JUST PEOPLE EXCITED ABOUT SOME OF THE DIFFERENT SMALL ART GROUPS THAT, UH, ARE RICHARDSON BASED, UM, AND PERFORMED THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.
SO I THINK THERE'S A, WHILE IT'S ALWAYS BEEN KIND OF, WE, WE'VE HAD A VARIETY OF ART GROUPS.
I THINK THERE'S A NEW, I GUESS, EXCITEMENT ABOUT IT.
SO TO, TO KNOW THAT WHAT Y'ALL DO IS PLAYS A PART IN THAT.
UH, WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS AND, UH, I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY ARE APPRECIATIVE AND VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE THINGS HAPPENING IN RICHARDSON, SO THANK YOU.
UH, ELIZABETH, I'D SAY THAT THE FACT THAT YOU, YOU GUYS COME BEFORE US YEAR AFTER YEAR, AND WE REALLY JUST GIVE YOU GUYS PRAISE AND WE, WE VOTE THIS THROUGH PRETTY EASILY, IS JUST AN INDICATION OF HOW MUCH TALENT AND, UM, DEDICATION AND HARD WORK THAT YOUR COMMITTEE PUTS INTO THIS, AND REALLY JUST SPEAKS TO THE, I GUESS, THE LEVEL OF EXPERTISE AND LEVEL OF PROFESSIONALISM THAT Y'ALL BRING TO THE PROCESS.
SO I REALLY JUST WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT AND THANK YOU GUYS FOR THAT ASPECT OF THIS.
GREAT JOB AS USUAL BEING THE LIAISON PRIOR TO CURTIS.
UM, I KNOW HOW MUCH WORK Y'ALL PUT IN TO, UM, GO THROUGH AND VET THESE GROUPS AND, AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, HOW TO SPREAD THE MONEY.
OBVIOUSLY EVERYBODY WISHES THERE WAS MORE MONEY THAT WE COULD SPREAD, BUT, UH, GREAT JOB IN DOING IT.
UM, JUST BIG THANK YOU FOR, FOR ALL OF THE WORK THAT YOU DO AND GOTTA ASK EVERY TIME, ANY, ANY MOVEMENT ON THE NUTCRACKER
JUST, UH, WELL, YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER
AND SO I, WHAT'S LEFT NOW IS FOR YOU ALL TO, UM, MAKE A VOTE ON THAT.
AND THEN, UM, THE FINAL REPORTS FROM THE ORGANIZATIONS WILL COME BACK TO THE CITY, UM, THE END OF SEPTEMBER.
AND THEN, UM, THEY WILL, THE ORGANIZATIONS WILL GET THEIR CHECKS IN OCTOBER, AND THEN WE START THE WHOLE CYCLE ALL OVER.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ELIZABETH.
YOU'RE WELCOME TO STAY FOR THIS NEXT PIECE IF YOU WANT TO ALL NIGHT, BUT, UH, IF NOT, YOU ARE WELCOME TO GO TOO.
[7. CONTINUATION OF PUBLIC HEARING, ZONING FILE 24-16, A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF A SPECIAL PERMIT FOR A MOTOR VEHICLE BODY SHOP ON A 1 .4-ACRE LOT, A SPECIAL PERMIT FOR A MOTOR VEHICLE STORAGE LOT ON A 0.04-ACRE LOT, AND A SPECIAL PERM IT FOR A MOTOR VEHICLE REPAIR SHOP, MINOR ON A 1.2-ACRE LOT, CURRENTLY ZONED MAIN STREET/CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT {INTERURBAN SUBDISTRICT) AND LOCATED WITHIN EXISTING BUILDINGS LOCATED EAST OF BISHOP AVE., WEST OF N. INTERURBAN STREET, NORTH OF JACKSON STREET AND SOUTH OF DAVIS STREET. ]
ALRIGHT, WE'RE GONNA MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.IT'S A CONTINUATION OF A PUBLIC HEARING ZONING FILE 24 16, A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF A SPECIAL PERMIT FOR A MOTOR VEHICLE BODY SHOP ON A 1.4 ACRE LOT.
A SPECIAL PERMIT FOR A, EXCUSE ME SPECIAL.
GOT A MOTOR VEHICLE STORAGE LOT ON A 0.04 ACRE LOT, AND A SPECIAL PERMIT FOR A MOTOR VEHICLE REPAIR SHOP MINOR ON A 1.2 ACRE LOT.
CURRENTLY ZONED MAIN STREET CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY PLAN DEVELOPMENT
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IN OUR URBAN SUBDISTRICT AND LOCATED WITHIN THE EXISTING BUILDINGS LOCATED EAST OF BISHOP AVENUE, WEST OF NORTH INNER URBAN STREET, NORTH OF JACKSON STREET, AND SOUTH OF DAVIS STREET.MR. MCM, UM, UH, THANK YOU MAYOR.
MAYOR AND COUNSEL BACK ON AUGUST 12TH.
UM, YOU, UH, FIRST HEARD, UH, UH, ZONING FILE 24 16.
AT THAT TIME, AS THE MAYOR MENTIONED, YOU DECIDED TO CONTINUE, UM, THE CASE, UH, TILL TONIGHT.
UM, THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THAT TIME WAS LEFT OPEN.
UH, SO ADDITIONAL, UM, INPUT TONIGHT FROM, UM, THE PUBLIC IS APPROPRIATE.
I WANNA WELCOME AMBER POLLAN, UH, OUR PLANNER.
UH, THIS IS, UM, AMBER IS GONNA LEAD ALL THREE OF OUR BRIEFINGS TONIGHT, AND THIS IS AMBER'S, UH, AMBER'S FIRST TIME AT CITY COUNCIL, SO I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT SHE'S DONE TO GET, UH, TO GET READY FOR TONIGHT AND TO, TO LEAD OUR DISCUSSION.
SO, AMBER, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU.
I'M HAPPY JUST TO, UM, I'M GONNA BE REVIEWING THE, UH, THE CASE, UM, AS YOU, UH, DID HEAR IT BACK IN AUGUST, BUT TOO, UM, JUST REVIEW SO THAT WE'RE, UH, CURRENT FOR CONSIDERATION THIS EVENING.
UM, SO THE PROJECT SITE, IT IS LOCATED AT THE, UM, SOUTHWEST OF, UM, THE DAVIS STREET AND THE, UM, SO THIS, UH, THE DAVIS STREET INNER URBAN AREA AND, UM, SURROUNDED BY BISHOP AVENUE AS WELL AS JACKSON STREET.
SO THE CURRENT ZONING IS THE MAIN STREET CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY FORM-BASED CODE, UM, THE MAIN STREET, THE, UM, INNER URBAN DISTRICT THAT IS THE NORTHERNMOST DISTRICT OF THE, UM, THE MAIN STREET AREA.
UM, IT IS A REQUEST FOR SPECIAL PERMITS.
SO SOME OF THE PHOTOS, UM, OF THE LOCATION.
THERE IS A, THE THREE CONSIDERATIONS ARE FOR A SPECIAL PERMIT FOR A MOTOR VEHICLE STORAGE LOT.
SO, UM, THAT IS THE CURRENT, UH, USE IN THIS AREA IN THE, UM, TOP SITE THERE, THE, OR THE, THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT OF THAT SITE.
UM, A SPECIAL PERMIT FOR A MOTOR VEHICLE REPAIR SHOP, UM, MINOR USE ON, UM, ONE OF THE SITES.
AND THEN, UH, SPECIAL PERMIT FOR A, UM, FOR THE MOTOR VEHICLE, UM, SERVICE SERVICE SHOP.
UM, SO, UH, SO SOME INFORMATION JUST, UH, TO REVIEW ON THE BACKGROUND FOR THE INTERURBAN SUBDISTRICT, UH, THE DESCRIPTION OF THE AREA CAME THROUGH THE PROCESS, UM, OF THE MAIN STREET CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY FORM-BASED CODE THAT WAS ADOPTED IN 2016.
UM, THAT, AND THEN, UH, THE, SO THE DESCRIPTION THAT AN ED GUSE DISTRICT BUILT ON THE EXISTING BONES OF THE DISTRICT FOCUSING ON ADAPTIVE REUSE OF EXISTING BUILDINGS, UM, EXTERIOR, SOME OF THE NOTES HERE, THE NEW INFO DEVELOPMENT, UM, IS DESIRED PROVIDED IT'S SO IN A MATTER THAT, UH, FURTHERS THE VISION.
EXTERIOR BUILDING MATERIALS SHOULD PROMOTE DESIGN CREATIVITY, UNIFY THE ECLECTIC STYLE FOR THE DISTRICT.
AND STREETSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS, UM, MAY VARY FROM MINIMAL TO MORE ENHANCED IMPROVEMENTS WHERE FEASIBLE.
SO THE, UM, CONSIDERATION FOR THIS LOCATION BY THE CLAY COOLEY GROUP, UM, IS THAT THEY JUST SOUTH OF THIS AREA IN 2000 TO 22, THEY DID A SPECIAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR, UM, THEIR, THEIR DEALERSHIP THERE, WHICH, UM, IS A, FOR MOTOR VEHICLE CELLS, UM, NEW MOTOR VEHICLE CELLS, THAT IS A USE THAT'S ALLOWED BY RIGHT IN THAT ZONE.
SO JUST, UM, UM, REVIEW ON THE USE STRUCTURE IN THE CODE.
A PERMITTED USE IS A USE THAT IS PERMITTED ANYWHERE IN THE ZONE.
SO THAT'S CONSIDERED A, UM, A BY RIGHT USE, UH, WHEN, WHEN, UH, PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT USES OR ON PROPERTIES.
AND, UH, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN, CAN GO IN AND CONTINUE AT A OUTTA SITE.
A SPECIAL USE PERMIT OR A SPECIAL PERMIT IS, UH, USE THAT'S ALLOWED WITH SPECIAL REVIEW, AND THAT'S BASED ON SITUATIONAL SUITABILITY.
SO THE, THE CODE STATES THAT APPROVAL INCLUDES, CAN INCLUDE ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS THROUGH THE REVIEW OF THE, UM, THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION AND THE CITY COUNCIL TO PROJECT ADJOINING PROPERTY AND PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, MORALS AND GENERAL WELFARE.
UM, THAT'S TYPICALLY DONE WITH THE PROTECTIONS OR, UM, APPROPRIATENESS FOR, TO ADJOINING PROPERTIES.
UM, TYPICALLY THAT'S ADDRESSED BY, UM, PUTTING CONDITIONS WHEN APPROPRIATE.
SO CONDITIONS ON THE USE, AND THAT MIGHT INCLUDE LIKE THE HOURS OF OPERATION OR, UM, ONTO REGARDING NUISANCES OR THINGS THAT COULD IMPACT ADJACENT PROPERTIES, IF THAT'S, UM, NOISE OR, UH, VIBRATION TRAFFIC, UM, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
SO IT, SPECIAL PERMITS ARE FOR USES THAT ARE ALLOWED, BUT THE BASED ON THE SITUATION MIGHT, UM, HAVE, NEED APPROPRIATE CONDITIONS TO, UH, IMPROVE.
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ITS, UH, APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE SITE.UH, WITHIN THE, UM, THE, THE FORM-BASED CODE ZONES, WE HAVE WHAT'S CALLED A SPECIAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN ALSO.
SO THAT'S A PROCESS TO REVIEW USES, UM, OR DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT AREN'T OTHERWISE ALLOWED IN THE FORM-BASED ZONE.
UM, SO IT'S SIMILAR TO A PLAN DEVELOPMENT IN OUR TRADITIONAL AREAS.
UM, SO IN THE CASE OF THE CLAY COOLEY USE, THE USE OF AUTO SELL A NEW AUTO DEALERSHIP IS AN ALLOWED USE BY WRIGHT.
UM, BUT THEY WERE, UH, REQUESTING SOME CONSIDERATIONS TO THE ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THEMSELVES, AND THAT'S WHY THEY, THEY CAME THROUGH THE SPECIAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN PREVIOUSLY.
THE USES UNDER CONSIDERATION TONIGHT ARE, UM, ALL LISTED AS SPECIAL, UH, OR THE INCLUDE SPECIAL PERMIT USES.
UM, SO JUST FOR INFORMATION IN THIS INTERURBAN SUBDISTRICT, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF, UM, IN THAT CODE, THERE ARE ALMOST A HUNDRED USES LISTED, UH, 98 USES, UH, IN THIS INTERURBAN DISTRICT.
ONLY FOUR OF THOSE 98 USES ARE NOT, ARE NOT ALLOWED AT ALL.
SO, AND THOSE ARE ACTUALLY, UM, SOME THAT ARE MORE GEARED TOWARDS THE RESIDENTIAL USE, LIKE, UH, AN ASSISTED LIVING CENTER.
UM, OTHERWISE THE INNER URBAN DISTRICT IS ACTUALLY OUR BROADEST ZONE IN TERMS OF USES THAT ARE ALLOWED EITHER PERMITTED OUTRIGHT OR BY SPECIAL PERMIT, UM, BASED ON THE EXISTING NATURE OF THE AREA, UM, AS WELL AS KINDA THE LONG-TERM, UM, EXPECTATION OF, OF DEVELOPMENT AND USE IN THE AREA.
SO, UH, AS FAR AS MOTOR VEHICLE USES, IT IS THE, UM, DISTRICT THAT HAS THE MOST EXTENSIVE ALLOWANCE, BOTH UNDER SPECIAL PERMIT AS WELL AS PERMITTED USES, UM, AS WELL AS MANUFACTURING.
IT'S THE BROADEST ZONE IN TERMS OF SOME OF THE MORE, UM, MAYBE INTENSIVE USES.
SO YOU CAN SEE SOME OTHER THINGS THAT ARE ALLOWED BY SPECIAL PERMIT IN THAT ZONE, UH, LIKE A BOARDING CANNEL, CAR WASHES, UH, DRIVE THROUGH FACILITIES, FOOD, TRUCK PARK, UM, MANUFACTURING USES.
UM, AS WELL, A LOT OF THE PERMITTED USES ARE, ARE PERMITTED ACROSS THE BOARD IN THAT WHOLE AREA.
WE'RE, WE'RE INTERESTED IN DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA DEVELOPMENT AND REDEVELOPMENT THAT INCLUDES, UM, CAN INCLUDE HOUSING OFFICE, UH, RETAIL RESTAURANT.
UM, SO THAT'S, UH, JUST SOME INFORMATION ON THE, THE, KINDA THE BROADER NATURE OF THAT NATURE, THAT DISTRICT.
SO SPECIFICALLY WITH THIS SITE, THE, THERE ARE THE THREE PROPERTIES INVOLVED.
THE DEVELOPMENT ONE THAT'S ON THE NORTH END, THAT'S, UM, ADJACENT TO DAVIS AND BISHOP AVENUE.
UM, I INCLUDES THE VEHICLE STORAGE LOT.
SO IN THE CASE OF ALL THESE USES, THE, UM, WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING, UH, FOR THE MOST PART IS WHAT WAS TAKING PLACE ON THE SITE AT SOME POINT.
UH, BUT WHEN A USE IS, UM, BEEN VACATED FOR MORE THAN 180 DAYS, THEN IF THAT, THEN IT DOES HAVE TO COME BACK THROUGH THE PROCESS TO REESTABLISH THE USE SINCE THAT'S THE CASE WITH THE ITEMS UNDER SPECIAL PERMIT.
SO THE VEHICLE STORAGE YACHT LOT IS THE AREA COVERED BY DEVELOPMENT SITE ONE.
UM, THAT'S 18,000 SQUARE FEET OF FENCED, UM, VEHICLE STORAGE, YACHT STORAGE LOT, UM, DEVELOPMENT SITE TWO.
UM, THAT'S ON THE, THE UPPER AREA OF THE SITE THERE.
UH, THAT INCLUDES, UM, JUST UNDER 30,000 SQUARE FEET OF SPACE.
THERE ARE SOME, UM, EXISTING BODY, UM, AUTO VEHICLE BASE THAT THEY, UM, INTEND TO USE FOR, UM, BODY SHOP REPAIR.
AND THEN, UM, THEY'RE ALSO MOVING, UH, AN AMOUNT OF STORAGE THERE FOR, UH, ACCOUNTING AND SOME USES FROM ACROSS THEIR, UH, THE CLAY COOLEY DEALERSHIPS.
UM, DEVELOPMENT AREA THREE IS, UM, AT THE
UM, AND THAT DOES INCLUDE A BUILDING THAT WILL, UH, HAVE AUTO BODY PARTS STORAGE, UH, WHICH FALLS UNDER THE, THAT, UM, AND THE DETAILING SHOP, WHICH IS WHERE THAT MOTOR VEHICLE REPAIR MINOR SPECIAL PERMIT USE COMES FROM.
SO WHEN THIS PROJECT CAME THROUGH, UM, THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION, IT WAS, UH, RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
THERE WAS, WERE NO PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THAT TIME.
UM, THE CITY COUNCIL DID, UH, SEE THIS PROJECT IN AUGUST AND, UM, AND IT'S, UH, BEING BROUGHT BACK, UH, CONTINUED TO BE BROUGHT BACK TO YOU.
UH, THE APPLICANT DOES HAVE SOME, UH, INFORMATION FOR YOU.
UM, AND SO I'M HAPPY TO, UH, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
MR. MAG, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD TO THIS? UH, I, I THINK AT THIS TIME, MAYOR, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE, UH, APPROPRIATE TO BRING UP THE APPLICANT AND LET HIM SHARE HIS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
AND, UH, THEN AMBER, UH, UH, CHARLES AND MYSELF WILL BE AVAILABLE WITH ANY QUESTIONS AS WE GO THROUGH, UH, THAT, THAT PART OF THE BRIEFING.
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AMBER, WE'LL ASK YOU TO TAKE SEAT.WE MAY BRING YOU BACK UP HERE IN A LITTLE BIT.
WE'D LOVE THE APPLICANT TO PLEASE GO FORWARD.
STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.
GOOD TO SEE EVERYBODY AGAIN, MY NAME'S ED HICKS, JR.
I LIVE AT 5 0 0 9 SPANISH OAKS, FRISCO, TEXAS 7 5 0 3 4.
I'M THE GENERAL MANAGER FOR CLAY COUEY VOLKSWAGEN RICHARDSON.
SINCE WE MET BEFORE, UH, I, I LISTENED TO EVERYBODY'S RECOMMENDATIONS AND I ACTUALLY WENT TO DETROIT AND MET WITH VOLKSWAGEN OF AMERICA.
AND, UH, TWO WEEKS AGO WE HAD THE NATIONAL MEETING IN ORLANDO AND I MET WITH THEM AGAIN AND THEY WERE ABLE TO, UH, GIVE US CONCESSIONS, UH, BASED ON WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT AND THE INFORMATION I GAVE THEM.
SO I DID, UH, SEND OUT A PACKET, UH, HANDED Y'ALL A PACKET.
UM, THEY'VE AGREED TO LET US PAINT THE BUILDINGS TO BE ART, ART, UH, APPROVED.
AND, UH, THE EDGY INTERURBAN LOOK AT WHAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR AND WHAT YOU ASKED FOR.
UM, ALL THE BUILDINGS, UH, THE WAY THEY'RE SEPARATED, WE'RE GONNA PAINT 'EM ALL INDIVIDUAL COLORS.
AND, UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE BREAKOUT, WE'VE GOT LIGHT GRAY NAVY, ANOTHER LIGHT GRAY, LIGHT BLUE INSTEAD OF REST RED, IT'S ACTUALLY RUST, SO I APOLOGIZE.
IT'S NOT GONNA BE FIRE ENGINE RED AND THEN NAVY.
AND THEN, UH, I'VE GIVEN YOU SOME PICTURES HERE ON, UH, WHAT THEY WOULD LET US DO.
THE ONLY STIPULATION WITH VOLKSWAGEN, WE COULDN'T PUT A VOLKSWAGEN EMBLEM ON THAT BUILDING.
SO, UM, OTHER THAN THAT WE CAN SAY CLAY COOLEY COLLISION.
IT IS A PART OF OUR LOAN, UH, WITH THE BANK, WITH THE MAIN FACILITY.
AND, UH, ONE OF THE MAIN, UH, UH, REASONS FOR OUR MOTIVATION TO BUILD, UH, THE BIG BUILDING, UH, WAS WE NEEDED THE INCOME HELP WITH THE BODY SHOP TO BE ABLE TO PAY FOR THE, UH, THE MORTGAGE.
SO, UM, ED, IF YOU HIT THE DOWN ARROW ON THE, THE LAPTOP THERE, I THINK YOU ASKED US TO LOAD SOME SLIDES FOR YOU SO THE AUDIENCE CAN MAYBE SEE AS WELL.
AMY, YOU WANT TO PROVIDE SOME ASSISTANCE? WELL, I'M NOT VERY GOOD AT THIS.
SO THERE'S, UH, THAT'S THE DRASTIC, UH, DIFFERENCE OF THE LOOK THAT YOU'D SEEN FROM THE, UH, THE OLD UGLY WHITE BUILDINGS THAT WE'VE GOT.
UM, THESE ARE, UH, WHERE THE MAIN BUILDING'S GONNA BE OFF OF, UM, UH, BISHOP STREET.
UH, IN THE BACKSIDE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THE GRAY, WITH THE GRAY TRIM UP TOP.
YOU'VE GOT A LIGHT GRAY, UH, WITH THE WHITE DOOR PANELS AND A, UH, DARK GRAY TRIM ALL THE WAY AROUND THE FRONT.
SO IT REALLY IS GONNA BE A DRASTIC DIFFERENCE.
AND THESE ARE THE BUILDINGS THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT.
THIS IS THE BACKSIDE ON THE INTERURBAN.
UM, THE, THE PAINT ITSELF WAS, UH, WAS CHANGED BASED ON THE TEXTURE.
SO, UH, YOU'VE GOT CERTAIN COLORS AND THEN THE TEXTURE IS A DIFFERENT, UH, COLOR.
SO IT, UH, AND THEN THE TRIM IS ALL GRAYED OUT.
THERE'S SOME OTHER PICTURES THERE.
I TALKED TO 'EM ABOUT A MURAL, AND I'M PROUD TO SAY THEY'RE, THEY'VE AGREED TO LET US DO A MURAL ON THE INTERURBAN DAVIS, UH, INTERSECTION STREET THERE.
UM, WE HAVE, UH, WE'VE HIRED, UH, ARIANA LEE CREATIVE, AND SHE'S, UH, GONNA WORK WITH DON, AND WE'RE GONNA SEE WHAT, UH, I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHAT CONTENT WE'RE OPEN TO, ANY CONTENT, UH, WHETHER IT'S THE OLD CITY, YOU KNOW, UH, COMING UP YEARS AGO, OR, UH, JUST CURRENT, UH, ART, UH, THE ART APPEAL.
UH, BUT WE'RE OPEN TO DO THAT.
AND THEY DID, VOLKSWAGEN DID APPROVE US PUTTING A MURAL ON THAT, UH, ON THAT, ON THAT WALL, WHICH IS JUST A PLAIN WHITE WALL.
UM, WE ALSO, UH, HAVE DISCUSSED, UH, WITH DON THE LANDSCAPE, AND WE'RE GONNA DO A COMPLETE, UH, REVAMP OF THE LANDSCAPE.
WE'VE GOT SOME CRATE MYRTLES THERE NOW, WHICH WE WANT TO TRY TO KEEP THOSE.
BUT, UH, TALKING WITH DON, THEY KIND OF USED, UH, THAT IN THE LANDSCAPE.
UH, UH, IS THERE, IS THERE A LANDSCAPE? THERE IS.
IF YOU, IF YOU GO BACK A FEW SLIDES, YOU'LL SEE.
WHICH, WHICH YOU'RE SEEING ON THE LEFT IS THE EXISTING AND THE RIGHT IS THE, OH, THERE WE GO.
SO WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA GO COMPLETELY AROUND, UH, ALL THE ACREAGE AND COMPLETELY REDO THE LANDSCAPE SO THAT THE MURAL, THE, UH, THE DIFFERENT COLORS TO BRING IT, THE, THE INTERURBAN LOOK.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE WERE, WE WERE EXCITED.
IT TOOK A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT, UH, TO TALK TO VOLKSWAGEN AND, UH, GET THEM TO APPROVE THIS, BUT I'VE GOTTEN FULL APPROVAL AS HIGH AS I CAN GO WITH
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VOLKSWAGEN.SO, UM, AND MET WITH THEM TWICE, SO THEY'VE, THEY'VE APPROVED IT.
SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS ADVANCEMENT AND, UH, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE THINGS WE'VE DISCUSSED BEFORE, UH, THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE BODY SHOP, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, I HEARD EARLIER WE TALKED ABOUT REVENUE OVER AND OVER AND OVER.
UM, THIS IS, THIS ISN'T GONNA BE IMMEDIATE, UH, REVENUE FOR THE CITY.
UM, WE ARE GONNA START OUT WITH 32 EMPLOYEES.
UH, THE MONTHLY, UH, PAYROLL THERE WILL BE $120,000 A MONTH.
AND BY JANUARY TO FEBRUARY, WE'LL BE UP TO 57 EMPLOYEES, UM, IN THAT AREA.
SO, UH, YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, UH, ABOUT $45,000, UH, UH, PER EMPLOYEE, YOU KNOW, PER YEAR.
SO IT'S GONNA GENERATE, UH, UH, SOME REVENUE FOR US HERE.
UM, I'VE TALKED TO SEVERAL, UH, INTERVIEWED SEVERAL, UH, PROSPECTIVE, UH, UH, APPLICANTS, AND, UH, ABOUT 30% OF 'EM ARE TALKING ABOUT MOVING TO RICHARDSON SO THEY COULD BE CLOSE TO WORK.
SO, UM, OTHER THAN, UM, BEING IN THE CITY AND SPENDING MONEY AND GENERATING THE REVENUE, WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT WHAT WE CAN BRING TO, UH, TO THE CITY OF RICHARDSON.
YOU KNOW, THAT, UH, THAT DEALERSHIP WE JUST MOVED IN.
WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT, BUT WE DO, IT'S CRITICAL TO HAVE THIS BODY SHOP TO HELP GENERATE SOME INCOME TO COVER OUR, OUR EXPENSES.
SO, UM, WITH THAT BEING SAID, DID ANY QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU, ED.
COUNSEL, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME? MR. DORIAN? THANK YOU, MAYOR.
THANK YOU FOR, UH, BRINGING THIS BACK TO US.
I, I KNOW THAT I, I WAS ORIGINALLY THE ONE ASKING, UH, TO PROMOTE SOME OF THESE AESTHETICS, UH, FROM AN ARCHITECTURAL STANDPOINT, WANTED TO BRING IN SOME LANDSCAPING AND, UH, SOME COLOR AND, AND HOPEFULLY TRY TO INTEGRATE THESE EXISTING BUILDINGS INTO THE CURRENT LANDSCAPE.
SO IT LOOKS LIKE Y'ALL HAVE PROVIDED LANDSCAPING AROUND THE PERIMETER, UH, CREATED SOME SOFT SCAPING.
UM, WILL THAT, UH, WILL THE LANDSCAPING HAVE ANY HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS OR IS IT JUST, IS IT GOING TO BE, UM, LIKE BOXWOOD AROUND THE PERIMETER? IS THERE, ARE THERE ANY HEIGHTS? I SAW SOME TREES SUPERIMPOSED ON THERE.
YEAH, NO, THERE'S GONNA BE TREES DRAWING.
UH, THE CREPE MYRTLES THAT ARE THERE NOW ARE, ARE, ARE PRETTY GOOD SIZE.
BUT, UH, YEAH, THE BOXWOOD, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA DO WHATEVER, UH, WHATEVER'S ON THE PLANS, THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE INVESTMENT WITH THE PAINT.
EVERYTHING'S GONNA BE CLOSE TO $300,000, UH, TO BRING IT, UH, TO WHERE IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, SATISFACTORY TO EVERYBODY.
SO, UM, MY OTHER, MY NEXT QUESTION IS THE, THE MURAL.
UM, WOULD YOU POINT OUT WHERE THAT IS PROPOSED TO GO? UH, DID YOU SAY DAVIS? YEAH.
IT'S GONNA BE, UH, INTERURBAN IN DAVIS ON BUILDING TWO, ON THE BACKSIDE OF BUILDING TWO.
ON THE BACKSIDE OF BUILDING TWO, THE FAR RIGHT WHERE IT SAYS LIKE GRAY, IT'LL BE ON THAT CORNER THERE WHERE THE STREET IS DAVIS.
WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA GO A PORTION OF THE WALL, WHICH THE HEIGHT IS 15 FEET, AND WE'LL GO 20 TO 25 FEET DOWN THAT WALL.
I WROTE ON THE DARK BECAUSE I WANTED TO SEE WHAT THE EXPOSURE WAS AND THE TIMEFRAME AND WHAT WE COULD SEE AND WHAT I, I DECIDED PAINTING THE WHOLE MURAL DOWN THE WHOLE WALL, WHICH IS 158 FEET, UH, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO SEE IT.
I WANTED TO BE ABLE TO, FOR, FOR PEOPLE ON DARK TO BE ABLE TO SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, RIGHT ON THAT CORNER.
SO, UH, WE'RE GONNA GO 25 FEET DOWN THAT WALL AND, UH, YOU KNOW, 15 FEET HIGH.
CONTENTS, UH, WE HAVEN'T, UH, DETERMINED THE CONTENTS YET.
UM, ON THAT MURAL, DON, THIS MAY BE A QUESTION FOR YOU.
ARE WE GOING TO BRING IN THE CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION TO REVIEW THE MURAL, OR CAN WE CONSIDER THAT? IS THAT, YEAH, LET ME, LET ME LET MCKAYLA, UH, TALK, TALK ABOUT HOW WE HANDLE THAT PROCESS.
TYPICALLY FOR MURALS ON PRIVATE, UM, BUSINESSES LIKE THIS, THEY WOULD JUST GO THROUGH OUR TRADITIONAL SIGNAGE SUBMISSION PROCESS.
BUT IF IT'S SOMETHING WE WANTED TO BRING IN THE CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION ON, THEN THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD WORK WITH THEM ON, FOR SURE.
YEAH, I ONLY MENTION THAT JUST BECAUSE SINCE THIS IS A, A DIRECTION OF TRYING TO CREATE A ITCHINESS OF EDNESS OF A DESIGN DISTRICT, UH, ENVIRONMENT, UM, THE ARTWORK IS KIND OF IMPORTANT, UM, FOR NOT ONLY THE DART WRITERS, BUT JUST PEOPLE DRIVING UP AND DOWN INNER URBAN.
SO WE'D CERTAINLY LIKE TO CONSIDER THAT AS AN OPTION.
THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE FOR NOW.
WE'RE O WE'RE OPEN TO, TO WHATEVER CONTENTS
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WE CAN AGREE ON.ACTUALLY, MY QUESTION'S FOR AMBER, UM, JUST, OR ANY CITY STAFF WHO, WHO KNOWS, UM, YOU KNOW, I KNOW BACK IN 2022, UH, THERE WAS SOME RIGHT IN HERE, THE SITE PLAN RESTRICTIONS FOR CLAY COOLEY THAT WE APPROVED.
I'M JUST WONDERING, ARE THERE SIMILAR RESTRICTIONS FOR OTHER NEW CAR DEALERSHIPS ALONG INTERURBAN? DO Y'ALL KNOW? CAN YOU, YOU'RE SAYING, CAN YOU PROVIDE EXAMPLE WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO? UM, YEAH.
SO BACK IN 2022, THE, THE REASON THAT, UH, CLAY COOLEY HAD TO COME BEFORE US WAS, JUST, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, FOR SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS, RIGHT.
FOR INSTANCE, FOR INSTANCE, MITSUBISHI HAD TO COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL AS WELL FOR DEVELOPMENT STANDARD VARIATIONS.
I JUST, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I, I UNDERSTAND.
I NOW I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION.
WHEN THEY RECONSTRUCT OR REBUILT THEIR DEALERSHIP, UH, JUST SOUTH OF BELTLINE, THEY CAME BEFORE THE COUNCIL AS WELL.
ED, ONE QUICK QUESTION ON SLIDE NUMBER NINE WHERE YOU WERE SHOWING US THE GREENERY.
THERE'S, ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, THERE'S SOME PURPLE SHADED BOXES.
CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THOSE ARE? 'CAUSE THEY'RE NOT ON THE LEFT AND THE LEFT IS WHAT YOU HAVE NOW.
WELL, THE, THAT, THE PURPLE AREA IS A, IS ACTUALLY PARKING LOT, BUT THE, THE GREEN AREA, I'M NOT SURE WHY THE, WHY THERE'S PURPLE THERE, DON.
MAYBE YOU WOULD KNOW I IS THIS PATENT? I THINK THEY WERE JUST, YEAH, I THINK THEY WERE JUST IDENTIFYING YOU.
THE DIFFERENCE IS, UM, UH, COUNCILMAN BARRIOS, THE DIFFERENCE IS THE, UH, ADDITIONAL GREEN THAT YOU SEE, UH, THOSE AREAS WILL BE, WILL BE LANDSCAPED.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, KNOWING, UH, THAT THE, THE GOAL WAS TO, UH, MOVE AS CLOSE AS WE COULD TO THE APPROVED CROSS SECTION FOR, UH, THE INTERURBAN DISTRICT.
UH, WE PROVIDED THESE SUGGESTIONS TO, UH, TO SAY IF YOU WERE GOING TO, UM, IMPROVE THE LANDSCAPING, HERE'S HOW WE WOULD SUGGEST YOU DO IT SO THAT YOU COULD GET AS CLOSE TO, UM, THE, THE CROSS SECTION AS POSSIBLE.
I KNOW IT WAS YOUR FIRST ONE, SO CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN.
IT WASN'T AN EASY ONE TO BE YOUR FIRST ONE.
UM, QUICK QUESTION ON THE, ON SLIDE SIX, YOU WERE SHOWING US KIND OF THE, YOU YOU MENTIONED THERE WERE A HUNDRED DIFFERENT CLASSIFICATIONS AND FOUR OF THEM ARE NOT.
SO BASICALLY IT'S ONE OF THE MOST FLEXIBLE DISTRICTS.
UM, WHY IS SOMETHING REQUIRED SPECIAL PERMIT? LIKE WHAT'S THE THINKING BEHIND IT BEING A SPECIAL PERMIT VERSUS JUST PERMITTED USE? WHY WOULD, IF IT'S ALLOWED, IT'D JUST NOT BE ALLOWED? LIKE WHAT, WHY IS THAT GENERALLY SEPARATED? YEAH, IT'S TYPICALLY FOR USES THAT THERE MIGHT BE CONSIDERATIONS FOR THE, THAT SPECIFIC USE OR THE, WHERE THEY MIGHT BE LOCATED.
SO LIKE I SAID, IT'S MORE SITUATIONAL.
TYPICALLY THOSE USES HAVE, UM, CONSIDERATIONS WHERE YOU MIGHT WANNA PUT CONDITIONS ON IT.
SO A LOT OF TIMES THEY'RE MAYBE HIGHER TRAFFIC OR THE TRAFFIC COMES AT CERTAIN TIMES THAT NEED IT WOULD NEED TO HAVE A TRAFFIC PLAN.
UM, OR IN THIS CASE WHERE THERE'S A LOT MORE, UM, MANUFACTURING OR UM, AUTO RELATED USES THAN, UH, THERE CAN BE MORE, UH, CONSIDERATION FOR THINGS LIKE SCREENING OR, UM, OR AS I MENTIONED, HOUR OF OPERATIONS.
LIKE FOR OTHER USES, THERE MIGHT NOT BE ANY PERMITTED USE.
UH, HOURS OF OPERATION MIGHT NOT BE LIMITED, BUT IT MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE IN A CASE OF SOMETHING THAT FALLS UNDER A SPECIAL PERMITTED USE.
SEEING NO MORE QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME, MR. HICKS, WE ASK YOU TO TAKE A SEAT AND WE WILL MAY INVITE YOU TO COME BACK.
THIS TIME WE'RE GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
MS. NEER, WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? YES, MA'AM.
OUR FIRST SPEAKER, SPEAKER WILL BE RICHARD RAMEY.
UH, I'M HERE TO SUP, UH, IN SUPPORT OF THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND I'LL TRY TO MAKE THIS AS BRIEF AS POSSIBLE.
UH, THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN USED AS A BODY SHOP AS FAR AS ITS INCEPTION, AS FAR AS I KNOW.
THE APPLICANT UNKNOWINGLY ALLOWED THE SPECIAL USE TO EXPIRE, WHICH HE HAD NO KNOWLEDGE OF AT THE TIME THAT HE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY.
THE USE AS PROPOSED IS THE SAME AS IT ALWAYS HAS BEEN SINCE INCEPTION.
THIS IS NOT A NEW USE FOR THAT
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SPECIFIC PROPERTY, NOR IS THERE GONNA BE ANYTHING USED IN THAT PROPERTY THAT HAS NOT BEEN THERE FOR DECADES.ALSO, A SPECIAL, WELL WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE SPECIAL PERMIT.
SO, AND AS I RECALL, AND I VERIFIED THIS WITH A FORMER CITY MEMBER COUNCIL MEMBER, THAT THE VISION THAT THE COUNCIL WAS, WAS ON THIS PROPERTY WOULD REMAIN AUTOMOTIVE ASSOCIATED WITH A CAR DEALERSHIP ACROSS THE STREET.
IT WAS NOT CONTEMPLATED THAT THERE WOULD NOT BE AN AUTOMOTIVE USE IN THIS AREA AS FAR AS THE VISION OF THE CORE DISTRICT WHEN THIS WAS ORIGINALLY SET UP.
SO THAT ASPECT, IF THIS WAS A DIFFERENT BUILDING, IT'D COME INTO PLAY, BUT THIS BUILDING WAS BEING USED AS BODY SHOP SERVICES AT THAT TIME.
SO IT WAS REALLY IN THE ORIGINAL VISION.
UH, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE NEW JOBS ALREADY.
UH, AS STATED AT THE AUGUST MEETING, THIS WAS TO BE FULLY STABILIZED TO BRING 500 CARS PER DAY TO THE CORE DISTRICT, WHICH WILL BENEFIT EXISTING AND FUTURE RETAIL BUSINESSES THAT YOU TRY TO GET IN THE AREA.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE PEOPLE COMING TO AN AREA TO ESTABLISH A VIABLE ENVIRONMENT.
SO THERE'S GOTTA BE A CATALYST TO BRING PEOPLE INTO THE AREA TO SUPPORT THE RETAIL STUFF THAT WE, THAT Y'ALL TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME AT THE AUGUST MEETING, IT WAS EXPRESSED AT THE PROPERTY, BE MORE VISIBLE, A LINE WITH THE CORE DISTRICT.
UH, MR. HICKS HAS, HAS WORKED DILIGENTLY PUTTING THAT TOGETHER.
OUR CITY MANAGER STATED AT THE AUGUST COUNCIL, WHILE YOU GO THROUGH A TRANSFORMATION OF THE AREA, IN THIS CASE THE CORE DISTRICT, THERE STILL NEEDS TO BE A BALANCE OF TAX REVENUE TO SUPPORT THE TRANSFORMATION.
THIS PARTICULAR HAS BEEN VERY DIFFICULT TO SELL PROPERTIES OR TO LEASE PROPERTIES IN THIS MANY, THIS PAST SEVERAL YEARS.
SO IT HELPS FOSTER, IF YOU GET SOMEBODY TO REDEVELOP AN AREA, BRING NEW VISIBILITY TO IT, IT WILL HELP FOSTER OTHER BUSINESSES CONTEMPLATING MOVING TO THE AREA AS WELL.
IT WAS STATED AT THE AUGUST MEETING, SOME HAD PREFERENCE ON SMALL FAMILY OWNED BUSINESSES DEVELOPED THE AREA.
AGAIN, IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT WE DRAW TO THE AREA TO BRING PEOPLE INTO THE AREA TO DRIVE PATRONS TO THE SMALL BUSINESSES.
WE'VE GOTTA HAVE BODIES TO GET THE BUSINESSES.
IF YOU WANT SMALL BUSINESSES IN THERE, WE'VE GOTTA HAVE BODIES THERE.
AS A MEMBER OF THE RICHARDSON CHAMBER OF COMMERCE FOR THE PAST 24 YEARS, I WOULD HAVE TO WONDER WHAT PERCEPTION THE DECLINATION OF THIS SPECIAL USE WOULD HAVE ON FUTURE BUSINESS OWNERS OR INVESTORS AS TO THE WILLINGNESS OF RICHARDSON TO WORK WITH THEM ON THEIR INVESTMENTS.
AS STATED IN THE AUGUST MEETING, THE APPLICANT HAS INVESTED OVER $38 MILLION INTO THIS PROJECT WITHOUT ANY C INCENTIVES, AND HAS WI AND, UH, WILL ENHANCE THE PROPERTIES, WHICH WILL INCREASE THE VALUATION AND INCREASE TAX REVENUE TO THE CITY.
AGAIN, I'D LIKE TO SAY I SUPPORT THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST FOR THE APPROVAL, UH, OF THE SPECIAL USE FOR THE FOLLOWING HAS ALWAYS BEEN USED THROUGH AS REQUESTED.
ORIGINAL CORE VISION OF THIS PROPERTY REMAINS AUTOMOTIVE CREATION OF NEW JOBS, DRAWING PEOPLE TO THE CORE DISTRICT, INCREASING TAX REVENUE, WORKING WITH THE CITY IN THE PLAN, AS REQUESTED BY THE COUNCIL AT THE LAST, UH, AUGUST MEETING, AND ALSO THE FINALLY THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDING ITS APPROVAL.
THE INTERURBAN BECAME A VITAL LINK FOR COMMUNITIES UNTIL THE POPULARITY OF THE AUTOMOBILE CAUSED A DECLINE.
THAT'S A QUOTE FROM THE CORE DISTRICT WEBSITE DESCRIBING THE DETRIMENTAL IMPACT OF THE AUTOMOTIVE INDUSTRY ON THE INTERURBAN RAILWAY INTERURBAN CONNECTED COMMUNITIES 116 YEARS AGO.
116 YEARS LATER, WE ARE STILL HERE DISCUSSING THE IMPACT OF THE AUTOMOTIVE INDUSTRY ON THIS AREA.
TODAY'S INTERURBAN SUBDISTRICT STILL SEEKS TO BE A VITAL LINK FOR OUR RICHARDSON COMMUNITY AND NEIGHBORS, AND WE STILL HAVE A RAILWAY WITH THE DART LINE RUNNING THROUGH.
AND NOW WE'RE PLANNING TO INSTALL A $5.2 MILLION OPEN SPACE TO INCREASE THE PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED ECLECTIC NATURE OF THIS AREA.
THE CORE DISTRICT WEBSITE ALSO HIGHLIGHTS OVER 100 BUSINESSES THAT ARE MAKING THIS AREA WHAT WE WANT IT TO BE.
THESE INCLUDE FASHION, BOUTIQUES, BREWERIES, COFFEE SHOPS, AND SO MANY OTHERS.
ALL PRETTY ECLECTIC IF YOU ASK ME ALL BUSINESSES THAT NEED THIS COUNCIL SUPPORT TO ENSURE LONGEVITY AND SUCCESS AS A STAFF REPORT
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SAYS THIS VISION FOR THIS SUBDISTRICT IS TO CREATE A VIBRANT MIXED USE DISTRICT AT THE HEART OF THE CITY, WHICH FOCUSES ON SUPPORTING INFIELD DEVELOPMENT TO CREATE AN ADDRESS IN THE REGION VIA A PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED, MORE WALKABLE ENVIRONMENT.I WANNA REMIND YOU WHAT IT TOOK FOR THAT VISION TO BE FORMED AND TO BEGIN ITS IMPLEMENTATION.
DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY MEETINGS WERE HELD WITH STAKEHOLDERS, WITH PROPERTY OWNERS, WITH NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS, WITH THE PUBLIC AT LARGE IN DEVELOPING THE STRATEGY FOR THE MAIN STREET CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT? DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY WE SPENT ON THE THREE CONSULTANTS, JACOBS KIMLEY-HORN, AND STRATEGIC COMMUNITY SOLUTIONS? DO YOU KNOW WHAT IT'S TAKEN TO PLAN FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS TO PLAN OUR WORK? BY MY COUNT, ACCORDING TO THE CITY'S WEBSITE, OVER 58 DIFFERENT MEETINGS AND PRESENTATIONS WERE HELD FROM 2012 TO 2016.
DO YOU REALIZE HOW BIG OF A WASTE IT WOULD BE TO THROW ALL OF THAT AWAY AND REFUSE TO WORK OUR PLAN? I'M HONORED TO BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS YEAR'S CARES PROGRAM.
WE LEARN A LOT ABOUT THIS CITY AND HOW WE DO THINGS.
WE LEARN ABOUT THE RICHARDSON WAY WE PLAN FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS.
NOW, OUR GENERATION IS ABOUT 20 YEARS.
IT'S ONLY BEEN 15 YEARS SINCE THE LAST COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE, AND IT'S ONLY BEEN EIGHT YEARS SINCE THE PLANS FOR THIS MAIN STREET CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY DISTRICT WERE FINALIZED.
AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THE COMMUNITY PUT A LOT OF WORK INTO THESE PLANS.
MAYBE SOME OF YOU PUT A LOT OF WORK INTO THESE PLANS TO SUGGEST THAT WE HAVE GIVEN THIS AN HONEST CHANCE TO BECOME REALITY AND IT SIMPLY HASN'T BECOME WHAT WE WERE HOPING IS A SOLEMN MISTAKE TO SAY THAT NOTHING HAS HAPPENED THAT JUST ISN'T TRUE.
SO MUCH HAS HAPPENED JUST IN THIS LAST MONTH, AND YOU, THE SEVEN OF YOU TONIGHT, ARE THE ONLY SEVEN PEOPLE IN THE WORLD WHO GET TO DECIDE IF WE WORK OUR PLAN.
WE PLAN FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS, WE PLAN OUR WORK AND WE WORK OUR PLAN.
SOME OF YOU UNDERSTAND THIS BASED ON THE WAY YOU VOTED ON SIMILAR CASES.
I WANNA HIGHLIGHT ONE OF THOSE CASES AND REMIND SOME OF YOU OF YOUR DECISIONS THAT PUT US WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
ON JUNE 13TH, 2022, CLAY COOLEY REQUESTED TO EXPAND THE AREA WHERE THEY COULD DISPLAY STORE AND WORK ON VEHICLES.
SOME OF YOU SAW THAT THIS WAS COUNTER TO THE PLANS THE COMMUNITY HAS FOR THIS AREA.
HERE'S A QUOTE THAT I HOPE WILL REMIND YOU.
I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE A LOT OF CAR DEALERSHIPS THERE, BUT AT SOME POINT IN MANY DIFFERENT AREAS, WE'VE PUT A STAKE IN THE GROUND TO SAY THAT WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE AND CHANGE THINGS MAYBE AT A GLACIAL PACE, BUT WE'VE CERTAINLY DONE THAT.
SO I DO AGREE WITH THE CONCERNS ABOUT TRYING TO MAKE IT BE THE RIGHT FIT INTO THE AREA.
THAT'S A DIRECT QUOTE FROM COUNCILMAN HUTCHIN RIDER ON JUNE 13TH, 2022, RIGHT AROUND THE THREE HOUR 10 MINUTE MARK.
CLAY COOLEY'S REQUEST THAT DAY WAS APPROVED FIVE TO TWO WITH THE BRAVE COUNCIL MEMBERS CORCORAN AND HUTCH WRITER UNDERSTANDING THE PLAN AND VOTING AGAINST THE REQUEST.
DENYING A REQUEST THAT GOES AGAINST THE CITY'S PLAN IS BUSINESS FRIENDLY.
WE HERE IN RICHARDSON DO NOT WORK THIS HARD TO PLAN OUR WORK JUST TO NOT WORK OUR PLAN.
PLEASE FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS OF RICHARDSON, DENY THIS REQUEST.
DENY ZONING FILE 24 16 WITH PREJUDICE.
THANK YOU COUNSEL FOR DOING THINGS THE RICHARDSON WAY.
I'VE GOT A FEW SECONDS I WANNA MENTION THERE WAS SOME COMMENTS SUBMITTED ONLINE THAT WERE NOT ACKNOWLEDGED.
IF WE COULD DOUBLE CHECK ON THAT, I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
I'M PAM THOMPSON AND I LIVE HERE AND I VOTE HERE IN RICHARDSON.
WE SAY THAT WE WANT TO BE A CITY WHERE PEOPLE CAN WALK OR BIKE TO COOL THINGS OUR CITY HAS TO OFFER.
AND THEN WE MAKE DECISIONS THAT ARE DOWNRIGHT HOSTILE TO PEDESTRIANS AND CYCLISTS.
WE DID THIS WHEN WE SAID WE WERE BUILDING A PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY DOWNTOWN, AND THEN WE WIDENED THE LANES AND WE INCREASED THE TURN RADII, WE STRAIGHTENED BELTLINE, WE DEMOLISHED THE BUILDINGS AT NORTHWEST CORNER OF BELTLINE IN GREENVILLE.
ALL OF THIS MAKES IT EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO DRIVE THROUGH OUR CITY RATHER THAN TO STAY IN OUR CITY AND SPEND MONEY HERE.
CLAY COOLEY IS ASKING US TO CHOOSE CARS OVER PEOPLE AGAIN.
WE'RE BUILDING INTERURBAN COMMONS THERE.
WE'RE BUILDING NEW STREETS WITH WIDE SIDEWALKS IN THE INTERURBAN DISTRICT WITH BELT AND MAINE.
WE NEGOTIATED HUNDREDS OF PARKING SPACES IN THE GROUND FLOOR OF THE PARKING GARAGE SO THAT PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE METROPLEX CAN PARK AND WALK AND SPEND MONEY AT ALL OF THESE BUSINESSES.
IN OUR CORE, IT'S JUST UNDER HALF A MILE OR 10 MINUTES.
WALK FROM BELT AND MAINE, STRAIGHT UP INNER URBAN TO FOUR BULLETS, BUT FEW PEOPLE ARE GOING TO WALK.
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UM, GONNA PARK AT BELT AND MAINE AND WALK NORTH PAST A GIANT CAR LOT AND AUTO BODY REPAIR SHOP AND AUTO PAINT BOOTH WITH FUMES, PARTICULARLY WHEN IT IS AS POORLY MAINTAINED AS CLAY COOLEY'S CURRENT SITE IS, ALTHOUGH A PREVIOUS COUNCIL DIRECTED STAFF WAY BACK IN 2016, TO ALLOW AUTO ORIENTED USES TO CONTINUE UNDER THE SPECIAL PERMIT PROCESS THAT COUNCIL SPECIFICALLY DID NOT DIRECT STAFF TO MAKE THESE USES ALLOWABLE BY RIGHT SPECIAL PERMIT REGULATIONS IN THE CITY CODE STATE THAT SOME USES ARE NOT ALLOWED EXCEPT BY SPECIAL PERMIT.AND ALL SPECIAL PERMITS AUTOMATICALLY TERMINATE UPON EXPIRATION OF THE TIME PERIOD, A CHANGE IN OWNERSHIP OR OPERATOR, OR A CHANGE IN BUSINESS NAME.
THE KEY THING THAT'S BEEN SKIPPED OVER A BIT HERE IS THAT THESE SPECIAL PERMITS ARE DESIGNED TO ALLOW EXISTING BUSINESSES TO CONTINUE UNTIL THEY CLOSE UP SHOP, WHICH CLASSIC BMW DID.
THEY'RE NOT INTENDED TO ALLOW A USE TO CONTINUE IN PERPETUITY, PARTICULARLY WHERE THE USE IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE VISION OF THE COUNCIL.
ADOPTED PD, AUTO BODY REPAIR SHOPS AND VEHICLE STORAGE PARTS SHOPS AND AUTO DETAILING DON'T SUPPORT PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY.
THEY DON'T SUPPORT A VIBRANT, ECLECTIC MIXED USE NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT'S HARD TO IMAGINE SITTING ON A NICE PATIO ACROSS THE STREET FROM A TIRE SOCK.
IMAGINE WALKING ALONG URBAN COMMONS WITH A NOISE OF POWER TOOLS ACROSS THE STREET.
COUNCIL HAS SAID THAT IT WANTS TO BE BUSINESS FRIENDLY, BUT THIS SET OF AUTO ORIENTED USES DRIVES A WEDGE DEEP INTO THE MIDDLE OF OUR BURGEONING CORE, PARTICULARLY WITH THIS OPERATOR WHO CAN'T MANAGE TO MAINTAIN HIS LANDSCAPING, LET ALONE HIS WINDOWS OR HIS FENCING, OR ANY OTHER ASPECT OF THIS SITE.
IF YOU'VE DRIVEN BY, YOU'LL SEE YOU HAVE A MAP IN FRONT OF YOU IN YOUR PACKETS WITH OVER A HUNDRED BUSINESSES THAT ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THIS CODE.
THESE BUSINESSES HAVE RECEIVED DOZENS OF BEST OF AWARDS FROM THE DALLAS OBSERVER OVER THE YEARS.
THEY'RE THRIVING SMALL BUSINESSES THAT ARE PROVIDING TERRIFIC PLACES FOR US TO EAT AND SHOP AND HANG OUT AND GET TO KNOW OUR NEIGHBORS.
THEY ALSO HAPPEN TO BE PRODUCING A GREAT DEAL MORE PROPERTY TAX ON A PER SQUARE FOOT BASIS ON LAND THAN THE AUTO LOTS DO.
DURING THE AUGUST COUNCIL MEETING, WE LEARNED THAT K COOL CLAY COOLEY'S REPRESENTATIVE TOLD STAFF THAT THEY WOULD ASK THEIR CUSTOMERS TO DROP CARS OFF AT THE VARIOUS DEALERSHIPS AROUND THE METROPLEX.
SO NO CUSTOMERS ARE COMING HERE TO THIS LOCATION WITH THIS REQUEST.
NO ONE FROM CLAY COOLEY IS GONNA DROP OFF THEIR CAR AND THEN WALK OVER THE ISLAND COFFEE OR FOUR BULLETS OR TAKE A QUICK WALK INTO DOWNTOWN.
IN MY BUSINESS, WE TALK ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES INCLUDING DIRECT, INDIRECT, AND INDUCED IMPACTS.
IN THIS CASE, THIS AUTO BODY SHOP AND FILE STORAGE AREA ARE CREATING DIRECT IMPACTS IN SALES AND A MINIMAL BUMP IN PROPERTY TAX.
BUT ALMOST NO OTHER BUSINESSES, NO OTHER BENE BENEFITS TO BUSINESSES AROUND THE CORE OR EVEN UM, AROUND TOWN.
SO THIS AUTOBODY SHOP, WHICH IS GONNA DRAW BROKEN CARS AND THEIR TOW TRUCKS AND VEHICLE HAULERS FROM ALL OVER THE METROPLEX IS GOING TO RUIN THE FUTURE WALKABILITY OF INTERURBAN DESTROY OUR CREDIBILITY AS A CITY BECAUSE APPARENTLY COUNCIL ADOPTED VISION DOESN'T HAVE ANY STAYING POWER AND NOT RESULT IN ANY BENEFITS TO ITS NEIGHBORS.
EVERYONE KNOWS THAT THE FUTURE OF THIS DISTRICT IS NOT AUTOBODY REPAIR SHOPS AND PAINT FUMES, BUT RATHER ARTS AND CULTURE AND FOOD AND MUSIC AND GATHERING PLACES.
AS YOU WEIGH YOUR CHOICES TONIGHT AND YOU TRY TO DECIDE BETWEEN AN ALREADY WEALTHY DUDE WHO LIVES AND PAYS TAXES OVER IN DALLAS AND A SMALL GROUP OF COMMITTED RICHES AND RESIDENTS AND VOTERS WHO WOULD LIKE YOU TO MAKE A WELL-REASONED LAND USE DECISION HERE, I'D LIKE TO REMIND YOU THAT MARGARET MEAD SAID, NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF A SMALL GROUP OF COMMITTED PEOPLE TO CHANGE THE WORLD.
IN FACT, IT'S THE ONLY THING THAT EVER HAS.
PLEASE SUPPORT THE OVER A HUNDRED BUSINESSES THAT ARE ALREADY BRINGING THIS PLAN AND THE RICHARDSON COURT OF LIFE.
PLEASE VOTE TO BE TRUE TO THE COUNCIL ADOPTED VISION OF THIS DISTRICT.
PLEASE VOTE TO DENY ZONING AND FILE 24 16.
MS. NEER, I'D LIKE TO SAY ONE THING BEFORE HE COME ON UP.
UH, MR. NTH INDICATED THAT HE HAD NOT RECEIVED A REPLY.
I PERSONALLY RESPONDED TO HIS EMAIL YESTERDAY, SUNDAY EVENING AT 7:12 PM SO THANK YOU.
HI, MY NAME IS MARK BAINE, 700 SCOTTSDALE IN TOWN HERE.
WE'VE LIVED THERE SINCE 1980, I THINK THAT'S ABOUT 44 YEARS.
AND I JUST RETIRED AND I'M TAKING A RICHARDSON CARES CLASS AND I ACTUALLY GOT TO SEE SOME THINGS THAT WE WERE DOING IN CLASS TODAY.
UH, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE YOU TURN DOWN THIS AGENDA ITEM AND I'LL TELL YOU WHY.
PLAN OUR WORK AND THEN WORK OUR PLAN.
WE'VE GOT A PLAN IN PLACE TO MAKE THIS A CULTURAL DISTRICT,
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BUT I'M THINKING WE ARE CHANGING SOME THINGS ON THE BUSINESSES THAT HAVE ALREADY INVESTED, AND THAT'S WHAT CONCERNS ME.ARE WE GONNA CHANGE THE RULES AFTER THEY'VE INVESTED? AND I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THAT.
UH, THE ONE THING, AND I'M GONNA KEEP IT SHORT, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE SOME MORE PEOPLE, I THINK, AND I I JUST REALIZE THAT THERE'S OTHERS.
IT'S JUST MY OPINION, THEY MAY GO TO ANOTHER TOWN.
SO WHAT I'D LIKE YOU TO DO IS JUST CLOSE YOUR EYES FOR A SECOND.
PRETEND YOU'RE WALKING THROUGH DOWNTOWN PLANO.
OKAY, LET'S TRY WALKING THROUGH DOWNTOWN GARLAND.
WHAT DO YOU SEE? YOU SEE A SERIES OF BUSINESS AFTER BUSINESS AFTER BUSINESS, ALL SMALL BUSINESSES.
WHAT YOU DON'T SEE IS GROCERY STORES.
WALMARTS TARGETS DEALERSHIPS BECAUSE YOU CAN WALK FROM ONE TO THE NEXT.
AND THE SERIOUSNESS OF THIS IS THAT AUTO DEALERSHIPS ARE BIG, LONG TERM INVESTMENTS.
FOR EXAMPLE, EVER SINCE WE'VE BEEN HERE, THERE'S BEEN A CHEVY DEALER AT 75 AND ARAPAHO.
DO WE WANNA SET BACK OUR GOAL OF HAVING A CULTURAL SUBDISTRICT BY 40 TO 50 YEARS? I WANT TO THANK YOU.
I'VE NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE AND I THINK THIS IS FUN.
IT'S NEW RETIREMENT FOR ME, THERESA DOUGLAS.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR JOBBY, THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND STAFF.
I LIVE AT 1411 SCOTTSBORO LANE.
UH, MY HUSBAND JEFF, AND MY HUSBAND JEFF, IS THE FOUNDER AND MAJORITY OWNER OF FOUR BULLETS BREWERY AT SIX 40 NORTH INTERURBAN.
I'M HERE TO ASK YOU ALL TO PLEASE VOTE NO TO THE PROPOSAL ZF 24 16.
I'M IN A CURRENT RICHARDSON CARES CLASS.
IN THE FIRST CLASS, THE CITY MANAGER MENTIONED THAT THE CITY COUNCIL'S MEMBERS CHANGE EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS.
EACH NEW COUNCIL REVIEWS THE PREVIOUS VISIONS FOR THE CITY.
NEW COUNCILS MAY TWEAK THOSE VISIONS, BUT THEY DO NOT CHANGE THEM.
WE DON'T VIEW THIS AS A TWEAK, BUT A MAJOR OVERHAUL.
OH, AS A MAJOR OVERHAUL, WE SEE IT AS ABANDONING AGREEMENTS WITH STAKEHOLDERS AND BUSINESS OWNERS.
10 OR 11 YEARS AGO, WE BROUGHT OUR PROPOSAL TO THE CITY TO OPEN A SMALL MOM AND POP, SORRY, I'M REALLY CLOSE TO THIS.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN A MOM AND POP BREWERY.
THE ENTIRE CITY COUNCIL WAS AS EXCITED AS WE WERE.
WE GOT A RESOUNDING YES FROM EVERY PERSON IN THE COUNCIL.
THEY TOLD US WE WERE EXACTLY WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING FOR ON INTERURBAN AND HOW WE FIT PERFECTLY INTO THEIR VISION, ECLECTIC, FUNKY, URBAN, ARTSY VIBE.
AND AS YOU GUYS SAY, WE PLANNED OUR WORK AND WE WORKED OUR PLAN.
WE HAVE 100% LIVED UP TO OUR END OF THE DEAL AND EXPECT THAT THIS COUNCIL WILL TOO BY VOTING NO TO THIS PROPOSAL.
IF YOU ALLOW THIS, YOUR VISION HAS CHANGED AND WE NEED TO KNOW IF OUR BREWERY IS STILL PART OF THAT VISION.
I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS A COMMENT THAT WAS MADE A MONTH OR SO AGO IN A COUNCIL MEETING REGARDING FOUR BULLETS, NOT DOING ANYTHING TO UPDATE THE FRONT OF OUR BUILDING OR LANDSCAPING.
DURING OUR PRESENTATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL, 10 PLUS YEARS AGO, WE SHOWED A SLIDE WITH A MOCK-UP WITH THE FRONT OF OUR BUILDING, WHICH IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT BEFORE, IT HAS BEAUTIFUL BRICK ALREADY, BEST BRICK BUILDING IN ON THE, ON THE STREET.
SO ANYWAY, WE DID A MOCKUP FOR THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING TO MAKE IT LOOK CURRENT WITH AWNINGS, POTTED PLANTS, UPDATED LANDSCAPING IN THIS TINY LITTLE PATCH OF DIRT WE HAVE.
UM, AND I'LL NEVER FORGET, EVER THE CITY, A CITY COUNCIL PERSON INTERRUPTED THE PRESENTATION AND SAID, HEY, WHO TOLD YOU YOU HAVE TO UPDATE THE FRONT OF YOUR BUILDING AND MAKE IT LOOK CURRENT PRETTY, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE GOING, THAT'S NOT THE LOOK WE'RE GOING FOR.
AGAIN, OUR VISION IS EDGY, ECLECTIC.
I DON'T THINK YOU NEED TO CHANGE ANYTHING.
MOST MEMBERS SPOKE UP AND AGREED AND NO ONE DISAGREED.
SO FROM THAT DAY FORWARD, WE CONCENTRATED ON MAKING GREAT BEER, CREATING THE LOOK AND FEEL INSIDE AND IN THE BACK, MAKING IT AN ARTSY SPEAKY SPEAK, EASY-ISH, HOMEY, COMMUNITY, NEIGHBORHOOD GATHERING PLACE.
AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT IS TODAY.
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IF YOUR VISION HAS CHANGED FROM THAT, NOBODY LET US KNOW.SO IF YOU'VE NOT BEEN BACK TO THE BREWERY SINCE OPENING DAY OR EVEN IN THE LAST YEAR, WE INVITE YOU BACK TO SEE WHAT IT IS THAT WE'VE BECOME NINE AND A HALF YEARS LATER.
AGAIN, 10 YEARS AGO, THE VISION WE WERE TOLD WAS ELECTRIC LEC ELEC, OH MY GOSH.
ECLECTIC, WALKABLE RESTAURANTS, BOUTIQUE SHOPS, AND A PARK.
NOW VERY, A VERY LARGE PART OF THAT VISION WILL BE TAKEN UP BY ANOTHER CAR BUSINESS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET, CUTTING OFF ONE COOL END OF THE STREET FROM THE OTHER.
THE CORE DISTRICT AND INTERURBAN REVITALIZATION IS A TOPIC OF CONVERSATION AND ALL OF OUR MEETINGS NOW THAT DOWNTOWN IS FINISHED.
ONCE BELT AND MAINE OFFICIALLY OPENS, ONCE SOME GREAT PLACES OPEN ON INTERURBAN, IT WILL HELP US GET TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE TO HELP US GET OVER THIS HUMP.
NOW WE'RE AFRAID THAT THIS PROPOSAL WOULD KILL US AND WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE ALREADY WORKED SO HARD ON AND DONE SUCH A GREAT JOB ON, WE NEED YOU TO KEEP THE ORIGINAL VISION OF INTERURBAN ALIVE.
WE ARE THE EPITOME OF A SMALL BUSINESS.
WE ALL STILL HAVE FULL-TIME JOBS.
BLI BREWERY IS A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF RICHARDSON.
WE ARE INGRAINED INTO THIS COMMUNITY.
WE HAVE LOCAL MUSIC, ART SHOWS, BIRTHDAYS, CELEBRATIONS OF LIVE WEDDINGS.
WE SUPPORT ALL OF RICHARDSON'S NONPROFIT SCHOOLS, CHURCH COMMUNITIES BY DONATING BEER MERCHANDISE TIME FOR ALL OF THEIR FUNDRAISING EVENTS.
WE WERE LED TO BELIEVE INTER URBAN WOULD BE FILLED WITH SMALL BUSINESSES JUST LIKE US, WHO ARE PART OF THIS COMMUNITY AND CONTRIBUTE TO THIS COMMUNITY.
VOTING FOR THIS PROPOSAL IS NOT BUSINESS FRIENDLY OR EVEN COMMUNITY FRIENDLY.
WE'RE AFRAID OF THIS CHANGE IN THE CITY COUNCIL'S VISION FOR INTERURBAN AND HOW IT WILL AFFECT FOUR BULLETS AND OTHER SMALL BUSINESSES IN THE AREA.
AGAIN, THIS IS NOT A TWEAK IN THE VISION, BUT A MAJOR OVERHAUL.
UH, PLEASE VOTE NO TO THE PROPOSITION.
I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO HEAR FROM EACH OF YOU INDIVIDUALLY OR AS A GROUP TO UNDERSTAND THE NEW, THE CITY'S NEW VISION FOR INTERURBAN AND HOW IT INCLUDES OR IF IT INCLUDES FOUR BULLETS.
I'M PAT GRIFFIN, 4 4 1 VALLEY GLEN DRIVE.
AND I'M HERE THIS EVENING TO URGE YOU TO OPPOSE THIS REZONING PROPOSAL CF 24 16.
YOU'VE HEARD FROM OTHERS WHO HAVE SPOKEN TO YOU IN THE LANGUAGE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND URBAN PLANNING.
UM, I MOVED TO RICHARDSON 30 YEARS AGO BECAUSE OF ITS CREEKS AND ITS TREES.
AND SINCE THEN I'VE LEARNED TO LOVE THE CITY AS I CAME TO KNOW IT BETTER.
UM, SO MUCH OF RICHARDSON IS ORGANIZED AROUND PARKS.
WE ARE A MOSAIC OF NEIGHBORHOODS, NOT A CITY CHARACTERIZED BY HAPPENSTANCE, SUBURBAN SPRAWL.
AND WE'RE A CITY PROUD OF HIS DISCOVERY OF ITS DIVERSITY.
UH, THERE ARE DISCOVERIES THAT PEOPLE, PEOPLE COULD MAKE SIMPLY BY COMING HERE AND GOING TO OUR DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND WE SEE THAT, ESPECIALLY IN THE DEFINITION OF THE CORE DISTRICT.
A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, RICHARDSON ANNOUNCED THE CORE DISTRICT PARTLY AS A FORM OF BRANDING, PARTLY AS A WAY TO PROMOTE ADAPTIVE REUSE.
AND PRIMARILY, I THINK AS A WAY OF DEFINING A SENSE OF PLACE OF NEIGHBORHOODS RIGHT HERE IN THE HEART OF RICHARDSON.
RICHARDSON COULD EASILY BECOME A DRIVE THROUGH CITY, AND FOR SOME PEOPLE IT IS.
BUT WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE RICHARDSON NOT JUST A DOT ON THE MAP, BUT A DESTINATION.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE ALL WANT FOR IT.
THE EMPHASIS ON THE CORE DISTRICT, THE PRIDE WE TAKE IN OUR DIVERSITY.
OUR RIDGE SHOPS, SMALL BUSINESSES, IS THE CITY'S PLAN FOR ONE WAY OF DOING THAT.
RICHARDSON AS, UH, MY, UH, OTHER, MY FRIENDS OVER THERE HAVE SAID HAS DEFINED A PLAN FOR THIS NEIGHBOR, THIS AREA HEIGHTS LOCKWOOD, DOWNTOWN CHINATOWN INTER URBAN.
AND WE ARE GRADUALLY WORKING THAT PLAN.
I THINK YOU'VE HEARD THAT SEVERAL TIMES THIS EVENING.
UM, IN THE CASE OF INTERURBAN BELTLINE IN MAINE IS ALMOST COMPLETED.
WE'RE INVESTING ABOUT $5 MILLION IN INTERURBAN PARK AND WE HAVE THRIVING BUSINESSES LIKE FOUR BULLETS TO THE NORTH BEYOND THE BAR AND STAYCATION AT THE SOUTH.
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WILL CONTINUE IF YOU WANTED TO.A STREET OF SMALL, SOFT, SMALL BUSINESSES, OFFICES FOR CREATIVE PEOPLE LIKE MY FRIEND TJ CALLAWAY, WHO PRESENTLY AS A SOUND STUDIO OUT OF HIS HOME, BUT IS THINKING ABOUT OPENING AN OFFICE ON URBAN IN URBAN DEPENDING ON WHAT WE'RE TURNING IT INTO.
UM, IF YOU HAVE THE WILL TO CONTINUE MAKING DECISIONS THAT SUPPORT THE GROWTH OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THE VISION THAT IS, MY FRIENDS OVER THERE HAVE SAID, HAS ALREADY BEEN DEFINED FOR IT.
WINDING THE STREET WITH LARGE CAR LOTS IS NOT THE WAY TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.
I DON'T THINK ANYONE WOULD CONFUSE CAR LOTS WITH NEIGHBORHOODS WITHIN OUR URBAN.
WE HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS CLOSE TO BECOMING A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL.
THIS REZONING PROPOSAL DAMAGES THE ENTIRE CONCEPT OF THE CORE AND FAILS TO FURTHER A PLAN THAT HAS BEEN OVER 10 YEARS IN THE MAKING.
IT'S NOT FRIENDLY TO OUR SMALL BUSINESSES, AND THEY'RE THE HEART OF THIS GRITTY, ECLECTIC, WALKABLE NEIGHBORHOOD.
INTERURBAN IS HERE NOW, IT'S WORKING.
AND I URGE YOU TO HONOR THE VISION THAT WE DESCRIBED WITH THE SAME ADJECTIVES A NUMBER OF TIMES NOW, ECLECTIC, AY DIVERSE.
AND, UH, I WAS, I'VE STRUCK THIS PHRASE OUT OUT OF THIS SEVERAL TIMES, BUT I'M GONNA PUT IT BACK.
YOU CAN'T PUT LIPSTICK ON A PIG.
SANDY HAN ANNIE, I AM GONNA SPEAK UP A LITTLE BIT 'CAUSE I CAN'T HEAR ANYBODY WHEN YOU'RE UP HERE, SO MAYBE IT'S NOT PICKING UP A LOT.
THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS SANDY HANNIE AND I LIVE AT 6 3 7 WEST BELTLINE ROAD IN RICHARDSON, 7 5 0 8 OH.
I'VE LIVED AND WORKED IN RICHARDSON FOR 24 YEARS.
THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS THAT OUR CITY DOES, RIGHT? AND I'M SO PROUD TO LIVE HERE.
I'M GONNA INDULGE MYSELF IN THESE COMPLIMENTS.
WHEN THE RISD BUILDING INSTALLED BRIGHT LED LIGHTS THAT WERE SO BRIGHT, THEY'VE SHOWN DIRECTLY THROUGH MY BEDROOM WINDOW AND THROUGH TO MY LIVING ROOM.
I EXCHANGED NO LESS THAN 38 EMAILS WITH THE CITY AND PAST COUNCIL MEMBERS ABOUT IT YEARS AGO TO NO AVAIL.
BUT WHEN I ASKED MAYOR PRO TEM SHAEL TO GET INVOLVED, HE DID.
AND, UM, CITY MANAGER DON MAGNER PERSONALLY, WENT TO THE SITE AND FIXED THE SITUATION THAT VERY DAY.
THE DEPUTY FINANCE MANAGER, TODD GASTRO, I BELIEVE GENEROUSLY TOOK 30 MINUTES OF HIS TIME TO DISCUSS ATMOS ISSUES WITH ME.
THAT'S THE KIND OF CITY WE LIVE IN.
UM, ALSO MY HAT IS OFF TO THE POLICE OFFICERS WHO CONDUCTED THE HIGH SPEED CHASE RECENTLY.
THE VIDEO OF THAT WAS CHILLING AND HARD TO WATCH.
AND IT'S AMAZING HOW THESE OFFICERS PUT THEMSELVES IN HARM'S WAY TO GET THE JOB DONE.
THE CITY IS HANDING OUT FREE TREES AND DOES A MYRIAD OF GOOD THINGS FOR OUR RESIDENTS.
THAT SAID, AND IN THAT CONTEXT, NOT EVERYTHING CAN BE PERFECT.
AND I'M HERE TO EXPRESS AN AREA OF CONCERN.
UM, MY DISAPPOINTMENT AND DISMAY THAT A 40 FOOT SIGN HAS BEEN APPROVED ALONG 75 AND ARAPAHO, MAYBE OBJECTION IS JUST ON AESTHETIC PRINCIPLE ALONE, BUT ALSO IT'S FOR A BUILDING THAT'S ALREADY HIGHLY VISIBLE FROM THE FREEWAY AND DOESN'T NEED A SIGN AS AUTO REPAIR IS HARDLY AN IMPULSE PURCHASE.
AND WE ALL HAVE GPSS NOW IT'S FREE PERMANENT ADVERTISING AND AN EYESORE.
I'M CONCERNED THAT IT PORTENDS A CHEAP LOOKING FIELD OF JUNK IN THE SKY AS NOW THERE'S A SLIPPERY SLOPE.
EVERYBODY'S GONNA WANT ONE, AND IT'LL BE HARDER TO SAY NO.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GONE PAST THE POINT OF NO RETURN, BUT I I'M REALLY SURPRISED AT THIS DECISION.
I DIDN'T THINK THIS IS, UH, WHAT WE THOUGHT WE WANTED IN OUR CITY.
SECONDLY, LOCAL BUSINESSES HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT AUTO REPAIR IS NOT BEING ZONED IN THAT AREA.
AND SIMILAR, UM, SMALL BUSINESSES ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR ONGOING RIGHT TO REMAIN, EXPAND OR MOVE IN.
THEY FEEL LIKE THEY'RE BEING PUSHED OUT.
I HAVE A SPECIFIC INTEREST BECAUSE ONE OF THESE BUSINESSES IS THE MOST EXCELLENT LITTLE REPAIR, AUTO REPAIR SHOP THAT I USE.
CONVERSELY, IF CLAY COOLEY IS ALLOWED TO EXPAND OTHER MOM AND POP AUTO SHOPS SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO REMAIN, MOVE IN OR EXPAND WITHIN THAT ZONING AS WELL.
EITHER WAY, EQUAL, EQUAL APPLICATION OF ZONING PRINCIPLES IS ONLY FAIR.
IT'S DISINGENUOUS TO SUGGEST THAT CAR REPAIR IS GOING TO BRING TRAFFIC INTO SMALL ECLECTIC BUSINESSES.
AS PAM THOMPSON SAID, CITIZENS ARE BEING GIVEN MANY OPPORTUNITIES TO EXPRESS THEIR VERY GRANULAR OPINIONS ON LAND USAGE AND ZONING IN MANY SURVEYS AND OPEN HOUSES WITH THE IMPLICATION THAT THOSE OPINIONS ARE BEING WEIGHTED
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AND CONSIDERED.I HOPE THE CITY IS TRULY LISTENING.
AND THESE ARE NOT JUST EXERCISES THAT WE SPEND A LOT OF MONEY ON.
UM, YOU'LL HEAR ELSEWHERE TONIGHT, I THINK, UH, RESEARCH INDICATING THAT SMALL BUSINESSES PROVIDE GREATER INCOME AND TAX REVENUE PER SQUARE FOOTAGE THAN LARGER BUSINESSES.
LARGE BUSINESS EX EXPANSIONS ARE NOT IN LINE WITH THE WALKABLE RETAIL THAT THE CITY AND ITS CITIZENS HAVE STATED THAT THEY WANT.
FOR AREAS NEAR OUR DOWNTOWN, I'M ASKING YOU TO DENY THIS APPLICATION AND REVERSE THE SIGN APPROVAL IF POSSIBLE.
RICK AMORE, MR. MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS.
THE STATED VISION FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS CLEAR AND IT'S BEEN REPEATED MANY TIMES HERE TONIGHT, SO I'LL SAVE YOU FROM HEARING IT ONE MORE TIME.
BUT WHAT IS ALSO CLEAR IS CLAY COOLEY'S REQUEST DOES NOT EVEN COME CLOSE TO ACHIEVING THAT VISION.
APPROVING THIS ENTITLEMENT WOULD UNDERMINE THE VISION OF THE INTERURBAN DISTRICT.
THE DISTRICT IS JUST BEGINNING TO TAKE SHAPE WITH BUSINESSES LIKE ISLAND COFFEE, FOUR BULLETS BREWING AND STUDIO LIMA, JUST TO NAME A FEW.
THIS DECISION THREATENS TO STIFLE THAT GROWTH AND ALL FUTURE DEVELOPMENT IN THE DISTRICT.
MY TELEVISION PRODUCTION COMPANY HAS BEEN LOCATED IN EITHER DEEP ELM OR DOWNTOWN FOR THE PAST 15 YEARS.
BUT WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO MOVE OUT OF DOWNTOWN.
UH, I AM ADVOCATING FOR A SPACE IN RICHARDSON, HOWEVER, APPROVING THIS CASE WOULD BRING INTO QUESTION.
IF THE CORE IS A VIABLE PLACE FOR A CREATIVE BUSINESS LIKE OURS, IS IT GOING TO BE COOL LIKE THE DESIGN DISTRICT IN DALLAS OR DEEP ELLUM? I DON'T KNOW.
PROBABLY NOT WITH A AUTOBODY SHOP.
I I'M CONFIDENT THAT THE COOLEY FOLKS CAN FIND A LOCATION FOR THE REPAIR SHOP IN AN AREA OF THE CITY THAT ALIGNS WITH RICHARDSON'S VISION AND EXISTING ZONING.
I JUST DON'T THINK THIS IS IT.
THIS ENTIRE CASE RAISES A LARGER QUESTION FOR ME ABOUT INTEGRITY.
INTEGRITY MEANS ACTING IN ALIGNMENT WITH YOUR VALUES AND PROMISES.
IF WE SAY WE WILL DO SOMETHING AND THEN DON'T, IT CREATES INCONSISTENCY.
MAKING EVERYONE QUESTION OUR INTENTIONS AND OUR SINCERITY.
ARE WE THE TYPE OF CITY THAT CAN BE RELIED UPON TO DO WHAT WE SAY? ARE WE GOING TO FOLLOW THROUGH ON OUR PLANS? ARE WE GOING TO ENFORCE OUR ZONING LAWS? OUR ZONING RULES AREN'T ARBITRARY.
THAT REFLECT THE CAREFUL CONSIDERATION OF HOW WE AS A CITY WANT TO SHAPE OUR SURROUNDINGS.
NOW, THERE ARE TIMES WHEN EXCEPTIONS ZONING MAKES SENSE WHEN THEY BRING AN UNDENIABLE IMPROVEMENT TO THE USE OF THE LAND OVER ITS CURRENT ZONING.
SO PLEASE ASK YOURSELF TONIGHT, DOES THIS EXCEPTION BRING A CLEAR IMPROVEMENT TO THE USE OF THE LAND COMPARED TO THE CURRENT ZONING? DOES IT BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE OR DOES IT JUST SERVE A NARROW INTEREST COUNCIL MEMBERS? IN MY VIEW, THIS REQUEST ONLY SERVES THE INTEREST OF THE COOLEY'S.
I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME TONIGHT, AND I I HOPE YOU DO, UH, DENY THIS REQUEST.
I HAVE SOME, I WAS HOPING WE COULD HAND THEM OUT.
I WOULD, IS IT OKAY, MAYOR, IF WE ALL GET THE HANDOUTS? 'CAUSE I'M GONNA REFER TO THE HANDOUTS IN MY COMMENTS.
THEY'RE NOT GONNA MAKE MUCH SENSE UNLESS WE HAVE THE HANDOUTS.
AND THEY EACH HAVE NAMES ON THEM.
SO I AM GONNA REFER TO THE PAGE NUMBERS HERE AND GO THROUGH IT.
IT'S THE ONLY ONE I HAVE IN, UH, PORTRAIT MODE.
UM, THEN WHAT, WHAT YOU SEE IS TWO PICTURES.
YOU SEE A PICTURE AT THE TOP WITH BICYCLES AND YOU SEE ANDREW, UH, WE'LL GIVE YOU A FEW EXTRA SECONDS.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS
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FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.UM, I THOUGHT YOU GUYS KNEW ME SO MUCH.
UM, IF YOU SEE PAGE TWO, UM, YOU HAVE A PICTURE AT THE TOP OF BICYCLES.
THIS IS TWO VISIONS OF RICHARDSON, NOT JUST THE INTERURBAN DISTRICT.
THE TOP IS IN FACT AT FOUR BULLETS.
IT'S IN FACT A SPONTANEOUS PICTURE.
THIS IS THE CULTURE THAT IS THERE.
WE'RE NOT BUILDING THE INTERURBAN DISTRICT.
THE BOTTOM IS, UM, THE VISION ACCORDING TO THE RICHARDSON CITY COUNCIL, UM, THE TOP WAS 60 MEETINGS, THOUSANDS OF PARTICIPANTS GETTING INTO THAT VISION.
UH, THOUSANDS OF RESIDENTS, THOUSANDS OF STAKEHOLDERS.
THE BOTTOM IS FIVE PEOPLE VOTING FOR IT.
I'M GONNA SHOW YOU SOME DATA, UM, AND DATA.
IN MY OPINION, THIS DATA IS KING.
UH, THE FIRST PRINCIPLE IS YOU MUST NOT FOOL YOURSELF AND YOU'RE THE EASIEST PERSON TO FOOL.
SECOND IS NOT REALLY A TRUE QUOTE.
AND GOD, WE TRUST ALL OTHERS MUST BRING DATA.
UM, AND I'M NOT GOD, BUT I AM BRINGING THE DATA.
AND I'M GONNA TELL YOU SOMETHING VERY INTERESTING THAT NO ONE ELSE WILL TELL YOU FROM THIS MICROPHONE.
OKAY, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING HERE IS A PICTURE OF A WHAT'S CALLED A LAND USE PRODUCTIVITY ANALYSIS.
THIS IS INDIANAPOLIS, INDIANA, AND THOSE LITTLE SPIKES IN THE CENTER, AND I APOLOGIZE, I CAN'T PRINT OUT EVERY PAGE IN COLOR.
UM, THAT IS THE HOW MUCH TAX REVENUE, THIS, THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY AND THAT LITTLE.IS GENERATING NOT PROPERTY VALUE, BUT HOW MUCH, UH, PER PER UNIT LAND AREA.
AND I HAVE SORT OF A QUOTE ON THE BOTTOM.
THINK LIKE A FARMER, OKAY? SO THE MORE CROPS YOU GET PER ACRE, THE MORE EFFICIENT YOU ARE.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD DO MOSTLY WITH, UM, UH, WITH ZONING DECISIONS AND LAND USE.
LEST YOU THINK I'VE MADE THIS UP.
OUR NEIGHBORS TO THE EAST ARE STARTING THEIR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UH, PROCESS.
AND YOU'LL NOTICE THE TWO I'VE HIGHLIGHTED.
THEY'RE BASELINE PHYSICAL ANALYSIS AND LAND USE PHYSICAL ANALYSIS.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'M GONNA SHOW YOU TODAY, IS THIS IS A, THIS, UH, MY INFO TO KNOW, BY THE WAY, THE PRINCIPAL OF THAT FIRM, AND HE DOES A GREAT JOB.
OH MY GOSH, I'M NOT GONNA GET THROUGH THIS.
UM, I TELL YOU WHAT, SINCE WE'RE GOING PRETTY SLOW HERE, I WANT YOU TO TURN TO PAGE SEVEN.
AND SO WHAT I'M DOING HERE IS, UH, EACH, EACH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING HERE IS, UH, LAND USE PRODUCTIVITY FOR AUTO USE ONLY.
THE TALLER, THE TALLER THAT BLOCK, THE MORE EFFICIENT IT IS.
TURN TO PAGE, UH, EIGHT, YOU'RE GONNA SEE BLUE.
THAT'S RESTAURANT RETAIL ADDED TO IT.
AND WHAT YOU'RE GONNA NOTICE IS THAT, UM, THOSE ARE MUCH MORE PRODUCT STARTING TO BE MUCH MORE PRODUCTIVE THAN THE RED.
WE ADD SOME MISCELLANEOUS USES THAT CAN'T FIT INTO OTHER CATEGORIES.
AND YOU SEE SOME IN THE MIDDLE, MUCH MORE PRODUCTIVE THAN THE RED.
OKAY, THE PICTURE'S BECOMING CLEAR HERE.
AND THESE ARE AUTOMOTIVE USES, INCLUDING OUR MAJOR DEALERSHIPS.
UH, AND YOU'RE GONNA SEE THESE BLUE.
THIS IS MIXED USE IN APARTMENT.
AGAIN, DWARFING THE RED AT THE BOTTOM, THE RED AT THE BOTTOM.
AUTOMOTIVE USE IS INCLUDING OUR DEALERSHIPS ARE, UM, NOT EFFICIENT.
I'VE TAKEN ALL THESE AND RANKED THEM FROM TOP TO BOTTOM.
AND IF YOU PUT ON YOUR MAGNIFYING GLASSES, WHICH YOU'RE GONNA NOTICE ON THE LEFT END, THE LOWEST EFFICIENT ONES ARE POPULATED WITH TONS OF AUTO USES, INCLUDING MAJOR DEALERSHIPS.
UM, HOW MUCH MORE DO I HAVE? YOU GOT? NO, 20 SECONDS GO.
UM, SO WHAT THIS ENDS UP SHOWING YOU IS THAT 85% OF THE AUTO USES ON THE 75 CORRIDOR ARE ON THE BOTTOM.
THIS COUNTERS WHAT, UH, MR. RAMEY SAID, THESE AREN'T PRODUCERS, THEY'RE LOSERS.
AND ONLY ONE IS IN THE TOP 25.
OKAY? AND, UH, YOU MIGHT HAVE NOTICED A RED SPIKE IN THE, UM, ONE OF THOSE MAPS.
THAT'S A LAMBORGHINI DEALERSHIP.
AND THAT'S BECAUSE IT HAS A NEW BUILDING.
OTHERWISE IT WOULD BE DOWN WITH THE REST OF THEM.
SO MY CONCLUSION IS, UM, PAGE 16, THAT WE REJECTED.
THESE NEGATIVE EFFECTS ARE NOT GONNA BE SOLVED BY FENCES AND, UM,
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MURALS AND LANDSCAPING.AND THESE ARE ALWAYS, THIS IS, THERE'S NO EXCEPTIONS.
IT ALWAYS GOES DOWN INTO THE TOILET OVER TIME, ALWAYS.
THE LAST CARD I HAVE IS ELIZABETH DELIO.
I LIVE AT THREE 16 CREST OVER DRIVE IN CAN CREEK AREA.
THIS HAS NOT BEEN MY FIRST RODEO TO THE MEETING TO KIND OF TALK ABOUT SOMETHING THAT I DO NOT WANT IN THE CITY, RICHARDSON.
UM, AND I DON'T LIKE DOING THIS HONESTLY.
UM, ANYWAYS, I'VE LIVED HERE FOR 26 YEARS.
THE REASON I MOVED IN TO RICHARDSON WAS BECAUSE OF THE BEAUTIFUL TREES, THE CLEAN CITY AND EVERYTHING ELSE IN BETWEEN.
I HAVE SEEN MANY DEALERSHIPS COME AND GO.
A LOT OF CONCRETE, EMPTY CONCRETE LEFT BEHIND.
HOW MANY DEALERSHIPS ARE WE GONNA HAVE ON 75 AND GREENVILLE, ALSO ON GREENVILLE.
IN BETWEEN, UH, GREENVILLE AND BELTLINE.
HOW MANY UH, DEALERSHIPS ARE WE GONNA HAVE? WE CAN HAVE A LOT MORE IN THIS BEAUTIFUL CITY BESIDES DEALERSHIPS.
WITH THE REVISION OF THE CITY, OF ALL THE NEW BUILDINGS, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOMETHING ELSE IN THAT CORNER OF THE INTERURBAN AND GREER AND THE GREER STREET.
AS A CUSTOMER TO VISIT THE FUTURE PARK, I DO NOT WANT TO SEE THE BACK END OF CLAY CLOONEY'S BODY SHOP, THE CAR STORAGE, THE TRASH, THE BEAT UP, BEAT UP VEHICLES, AND THE SMELL OF CHEMICALS.
I DON'T WANT TO GO TO THAT PARK TO HAVE ALL THIS IN MY FACE.
I DON'T THINK IT'S HEALTHY FOR ANYONE, ESPECIALLY FOR THE, UH, RESIDENTS THAT LIVE CLOSE BY, PLEASE.
AS BEAUTIFUL AS THE CITY OF RICHARDSON IS, DO NOT APPROVE THE ADDITION TO CLAY.
CLOONEY HAVE ANOTHER VISION FOR THE CITY.
I KNOW MONEY IN THE CITY OF RICHARDSON IS A LOT, AND THE ACRES IS A LOT AS WELL.
HAVE A DIFFERENT VISION FOR THAT CORNER, BECAUSE AS A PARK, YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE ALL THAT NASTY BUILDING, THE NASTY CARS.
IF YOU DRIVE THROUGH, THROUGH INTER URBAN AND YOU ACTUALLY WALK IN SOME OF THOSE BUILDINGS, YOU CAN SEE ALL THE TRASH, ALL THE CAR, ALL THE VEHICLES THAT HAD BEEN CRASHED, WHO WAS TO WALK BY THERE.
SO PLEASE, NEXT TIME AROUND, JUST WALK IN THAT STREET AND JUST TAKE YOUR TIME AS YOU'RE RIDING A BIKE.
AS YOU'RE WALKING, TAKE YOUR TIME AND, AND LOOK AT ALL THAT.
DO YOU WANT TO GO BACK AND SEE CLAY COOLEY WITH ALL THIS, ALL THOSE CRASH VEHICLES AND ALL THOSE CHEMICALS OUT? I REALLY THINK THAT YOU DO NOT WANT TO SEE THAT THE PROPERTY THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR IS 2.6 ACRES.
IT'S WORTH A LOT MORE THAN WHATEVER THEY PAID FOR.
AND I KNOW IT'S BY THE SOUND OF IT THAT YOU HAVE ALREADY PROVED THIS, THIS HAS PROBABLY GONE TO, UH, COUNCIL ALREADY.
BUT YOU DO NOT HAVE TO DO THIS.
YOU CAN DO OTHER THINGS IN THE BEAUTIFUL CITY OF RICHARDSON.
AND I HOPE YOU DO NOT PASS THIS.
OH, WANT TO ADD ONE MORE THING? WHY DON'T YOU LOOK AT THE, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT, UM, AREA FROM BELTLINE ON GREENVILLE, UH, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE STREET THAT KIND OF CIRCLES BEHIND THAT BODY SHOP THAT GOES, I DON'T KNOW, THE STREET NEEDS TO BE REPAIRED AS WELL.
ALL THAT AREA YOU CAN DO SO MUCH BEHIND AT AND T.
I I THINK YOU ALL KNOW WHERE I'M TALKING ABOUT.
YOU CAN DO SO MUCH WITH ALL THAT PROPERTY.
I MEAN, JUST LOOK AT THE BEAUTY BEAUTIFICATION OF THE CITY, AND I KNOW YOU ARE, YOU NEED TO LOOK BETTER INTO IT.
THANK YOU, MS. ER, MAYOR, I DO HAVE ONE MORE PERSON FILLING OUT A CARD.
OKAY, MA'AM, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND JOIN US AT THE PODIUM AND PRESENT AND THEN YOU CAN COMPLETE THAT.
WHEN YOU FINISH, PLEASE, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
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UM, I'M JULIE ROBINSON AT 600 NOTTINGHAM DRIVE IN RICHARDSON.AND I APOLOGIZE, I DID FILL OUT A FORM ONLINE.
UM, SO AS A RICHARDSON, UH, CORE DISTRICT BUSINESS OWNER, UM, ALSO A LONGTIME BUSINESS RESIDENT, AND, UM, A MEMBER OF THE RICHARDSON CORE DISTRICT, UH, MERCHANTS ASSOCIATION, WE ARE STRONGLY OPPOSED TO THE ZONING CHANGE FOR AN OVERFLOW VEHICLE STORAGE AREA AND REPAIR FACILITY IN THE INNER URBAN CORE DISTRICT.
THIS WOULD BE DETRIMENTAL TO THIS OVERALL HEALTH OF THE CORE DISTRICT, UM, AS WELL AS A SERIOUS BREAK FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO CREATE AND BUILD UPON A THRIVING ENTERTAINMENT AND CULTURAL DISTRICT.
SOMETHING THAT NEIGHBORING CITIES LIKE GARLAND, PLANO, AND MCKINNEY HAVE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL IN ACHIEVING.
AND I FEEL THAT WE ARE VERY, WE'RE WE'RE GETTING CLOSER AND CLOSER TO BEING ABLE TO ACHIEVE THIS EVENTUALLY.
UM, THE CORE DISTRICT IS JUST BEGINNING TO SEE THE FRUITS OF THIS PLAN START TO BLOOM.
UM, AND THAT INCLUDES SIX CORE DISTRICT BUSINESSES WHO RECENTLY WON A DALLAS OBSERVER BEST OF AWARD, WHICH IS SOMETHING TO BE PROUD OF.
THERE ARE ARE ALSO EXCITING INITIATIVES HAPPENING IN THE CORE RIGHT NOW, LIKE PLACEMAKING, SIGNAGE, AND A BRAND NEW SHUTTLE SERVICE FROM UTD TO EACH OF THE CORE DISTRICT NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND IN A VERY SHORT TIME, WE'LL HAVE HUNDREDS OF NEW NEIGHBORS MOVING INTO BELT AND MAINE CREATING MORE URBAN DENSITY AND FOOT TRAFFIC.
WE MUST STAY FOCUSED ON THE SET PLAN TO ACHIEVE OUR CIVIC AND COMMUNITY'S SHARED GOAL TO MAKE THE CORE DISTRICT CULTURAL, CREATIVE AND UNIQUE REVENUE GENERATING ENTERTAINMENT DESTINATION.
SO TO ALLOW A GIANT CAR STORAGE AND MAINTENANCE FACILITY IN THE CORE DISTRICT HAS REALLY TIED AMOUNT TO, UH, PUTTING ONE UP IN THE DALLAS DESIGN DISTRICT.
AND MY FAMILY AND I, MY HUSBAND AND I SOUGHT OUT RICHARDSON, UM, OVER 20 YEARS AGO AND WE MADE IT OUR HOME.
WE'RE RAISING OUR FAMILY HERE NOW.
WE FOUNDED BUSINESSES HERE IN THE CITY BECAUSE OF RICHARDSON UNIQUE QUALITIES AND CULTURE.
DON'T HOMOGENIZE AND STUNT THE GROWTH OF WHAT COULD BECOME A THRIVING DISTRICT.
STAY THE COURSE OF THE ORIGINAL PLAN TO SEE IT THROUGH AND BRING MORE CULTURE INTO THE CORE.
OKAY, COUNSEL, I WOULD BE LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, PLEASE, MR. CORCORAN.
A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
GOT A MOTION TO CLOSE MR. SHAM SHUL.
ALL IN FAVOR? CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.
ARE THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSIONS AT THIS TIME OR ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR THE APPLICANT? MR. CORCORAN? HEY, THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.
I DO HAVE A QUICK FURTHER DISCUSSION.
UM, YOU KNOW, I DID COMMIT TO YOU AND, UH, CITY MANAGER DON MAGNER, THAT I WOULD DO FURTHER RESEARCH AND REEVALUATE MY OPINION.
UM, YOU KNOW, I DID THE FURTHER RESEARCH, BUT MY OPINION HAS REMAINED THE SAME, THAT THIS SPECIAL PERMIT IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE DESIGN AND ORIGINAL INTENTION FOR THE SUBDISTRICT.
UM, I DROVE EVERY STREET OF THE DESIGN DISTRICT IN DALLAS, UM, WHICH WAS LISTED ON THE ORIGINAL SLIDES AS A COMPARISON AREA.
THERE ARE NO AUTO ORIENTED USES IN THAT DISTRICT.
UH, THE OTHER THING I DID IS I ALSO READ THE OLD HANDOUTS AND LISTENED TO THE MEETINGS FROM THE ORIGINAL VISIONING AND ZONING DISCUSSIONS.
UH, THIS SPECIFIC ISSUE WAS ACTUALLY DISCUSSED AT LENGTH, AND THIS IS WHERE IT GETS KIND OF AMBIGUOUS THERE.
EVERYONE AGREED THAT WE DIDN'T WANT TO COMPLETELY RESTRICT NEW CAR SALES IN THIS AREA.
UM, AND THAT ACTUALLY THE SPACE BETWEEN BISHOP AND 75 REALLY MADE SENSE FOR THEM.
BUT IT WAS ALSO AGREED THAT AUTO USES, AS THEY CURRENTLY EXIST, DIDN'T QUITE FIT IN WITH THE EDGY, GRITTY, BOHEMIAN VIBE THAT OUR URBAN WAS INTENDED TO BECOME.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY THE DECISION WAS MADE TO KEEP A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SYSTEM IN PLACE BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT TO ELIMINATE THE POTENTIAL FOR SOMETHING LIKE AN EDGY BODY SHOP OR HARLEY STORE OR SOME KIND OF EMERGING TECHNOLOGY USE THAT WE HADN'T THOUGHT OF YET.
SO THERE WAS ALSO A LOT OF BROAD CONSENSUS THAT WE'D EVENTUALLY LIKE TO SEE THE NUMBER OF AUTO ORIENTED USES DECREASE.
SO WITH ALL THAT IN MIND, I DON'T THINK THAT THIS CLEARS THE BAR FOR WHAT WE'D WANT TO GRANT OR WHY WE'D WANNA GRANT AN SUP.
BUT I'LL SAY THAT SAID, IT'S A DIFFICULT DECISION.
I DON'T WANNA BEGRUDGE ANYONE FOR THINKING DIFFERENTLY THAN ME TO THE EXTENT THAT, UM, I'M NOT BEING BUSINESS FRIENDLY.
I THINK BY THAT DEFINITION, ZONING LAWS AND SPECIAL USE PERMITS ARE INHERENTLY BUSINESS UNFRIENDLY.
AND THIS REALLY IS A CHOICE BETWEEN STICKING WITH A 2030 YEAR VISION OR BEING FRIENDLY BY THAT DEFINITION.
AND THEN THE LAST, THE LAST POINTS I'D LIKE TO MAKE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, EITHER WAY THIS GOES, I REALLY THINK WE NEED TO REEVALUATE WHETHER THE
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INTERURBAN SUBDISTRICT VISION IS WORKING OR EVEN IF IT'S WHAT WE STILL WANT AS A COUNCIL.UH, THE SAME GOES FOR THE CREATIVE CORPORATE SUBDISTRICT.
THE REALITY IS THAT, UH, SINCE THEY WERE CREATED, WE'VE LOST A LOT OF POWER TO THE STATE LEGISLATURE TO REGULATE DIFFERENT THINGS AND SPECIFICALLY THE ABILITY TO, UH, MANDATE CERTAIN BUILDING MATERIALS, FACADES, THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, I, I REALLY THINK THESE S ARE STARTING TO BECOME A PROBLEM FOR US BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T, WE HAVEN'T TAKEN THE TIME TO EVALUATE WHETHER THOSE ORIGINAL VISIONS HOLD UP.
AND IT, IT'S NOT FAIR TO FUTURE COUNCILS OR BUSINESSES TO FORCE REPEATED SUP CASES ON 10-YEAR-OLD VISIONS.
UM, I JUST THINK THESE DECISIONS, THEY'RE ONLY GONNA BECOME MORE FREQUENT AND MORE CHALLENGING FOR US IF WE DON'T DO THAT.
SO IT'S JUST SOMETHING I THINK THAT WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT AS WE WRAP UP THIS YEAR AND GO INTO NEXT YEAR.
WELL, THIS IS, UH, THIS IS VERY CHALLENGING, UH, IN ONE WAY, BUT ALSO VERY CLEAR IN OTHER WAY TO COME UP WITH THE DECISION.
UH, VISIONS ARE IMPORTANT AND, UH, WE ALWAYS SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WORK OUR PLAN AND THEN WE, WE PLAN OUR WORK, THEN WE WORK THE PLAN.
AND THAT'S HOW WE ACHIEVE OUR GOAL.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THE RICHARD IN THAT AREA THAT WE HAVE, THAT GREENVILLE 75, THAT CORRIDOR IS, IS VERY IMPORTANT CORRIDOR WE CAN, UH, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT DENSITY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, BRINGING PEOPLE IN THIS AREA.
UH, THAT'S REALLY THE UNIQUE AREA THAT WE CAN MAKE THIS THING MUCH MORE DENSE WITH DESTINATION.
UH, IF DEEP EL COULD BE, YOU KNOW, SUCCESSFUL, WE, WE WOULD BE MUCH BETTER THAN THAT BECAUSE RICHARD IS MUCH SAFER CITY THAN, UH, THE OTHER CITIES.
SO PEOPLE WOULD BE COMING INTO THIS AREA MORE THAN ANY OTHER AREA.
SO THIS IS, THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT.
I LOOK, I LOOK EVERY POSSIBILITY TO SEE IF THERE IS A WAY TO SUPPORT THIS CASE.
AND, UH, I COULDN'T FIND ANY REALLY GOOD REASON FOR THAT.
UH, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE ARE BUSINESS FRIENDLY.
WE ARE BUSINESS FRIENDLY, WHICH MEANS THAT IN OUR CITY STAFF, CITY HALL, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE LIKE, WOULD DO EVERY WAY POSSIBLE TO EXPEDITE THE PROJECTS.
AND WE ARE A HUNDRED TIMES OR THOUSAND TIMES BETTER THAN OUR, SOME OF THE NEIGHBORING CITIES.
I PERSONALLY WORK WITH OTHER CITIES AND I SEE THE DIFFICULTIES THERE.
AND OVER HERE YOU SAW ONE OF THE, UH, SPEAKERS TALK, TALK ABOUT SOLVING THE PROBLEM JUST WITH A CLICK.
IT'S NOT JUST ME, IT'S, IT'S THE CITY STAFF DID THAT.
UH, SO WITH THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A VERY CLEAR, YOU KNOW, LIST THAT WAS PERMITTED, WAS NOT PERMITTED IN THE, INTO THAT DISTRICTS.
UH, EMBER HAS EXPLAINED SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WHY IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, ALLOWED THERE BECAUSE YOU WANT TO CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT THAT WOULD ATTRACT PEOPLE.
AND UH, YOU KNOW, WE NEED ALL KIND OF BUSINESS THERE.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE ALL KIND OF BUSINESS.
WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A BIG LAND TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S SO UNIQUE, UH, AREA.
I WOULD BE HAPPY TO SUPPORT ANY OTHER PLACES, THOSE KIND OF BUSINESS.
BUT THAT UNIQUE AREA, PLEASE, UH, YOU KNOW, FOCUS ON WHAT CITY IS LOOKING AT.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE LOTS OF SPEAKERS, RESIDENTS, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR SOME KIND OF ENVIRONMENT, YOU KNOW, FOR 30 YEARS, 40 YEARS.
UH, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE A DREAM.
I THINK I CAN SEE THE PEOPLE'S DREAM, WHAT THEY'RE DREAMING.
I'M, I'M HERE TO SUPPORT, UH, OUR RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S IMPORTANT FOR OUR CITY TODAY, TOMORROW, AND LONG TERM.
SO, UH, AND, YOU KNOW, TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, DECISION THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, I WOULD GIVE AN EXAMPLE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER THAT THE COMMUNION LOCAL AREA, IT DID NOT HAPPEN OVERNIGHT LIKE THAT.
THERE WAS AUTO SHOP REPAIR STORED THERE FOR MANY YEARS, AND THAT WAS NOT, NOT ACCORDING TO THE VISION THAT CITY HAD.
AND EVENTUALLY, YOU KNOW, THEY LEFT.
AND, AND THAT, THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, NOT ALLOWED ANYMORE BY, BY RIGHT ANYMORE BECAUSE THE OWNERSHIP HAD CHANGED.
SO, AND LONG STORY SHORT, TO MAKE THIS, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT WAS NOT ALLOWED ANYMORE.
THE NEW BUYER COULD NOT BUY IT BECAUSE THE ZONING HAS CHANGED, OR ZONING WAS LIKE RESTORED TO THE ORIGINAL PLAN.
COMMUNION GREAT PLACE HAPPENED.
SO, SO HOW BEAUTIFUL THIS THING IS.
SO I THINK, I THINK WE NEED TO ADJUST A LITTLE BIT MORE PATIENCE AND ATTRACT, UH, BUSINESSES THAT'S REALLY GOES WITH THE VISION AND I THINK ADVERTISE THIS THING A LITTLE MORE STRONGLY AND SHARE WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT.
I, I DON'T THINK WE EVEN, WE HAVE TO WAIT 10 YEARS BECAUSE YOU SEE SMALL 16 SQUARE HUNDRED SQUARE FEET CONDO THAT WOULD BE SELLING FOR 500, $600,000
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IN CHARON HOUSING PRICES GOING OUT OF THE ROOF.YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT AFFORDABLE ANYMORE.
$57,000 SOMEONE MAKES WOULD BE DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO LIVE IN CHARON.
WE HAVE TO LOOK FOR SOME OTHER SOLUTION FOR THAT.
I THINK CITIES WORKING FOR THOSE KIND OF THINGS, YOU KNOW, BRINGING MORE HOUSING HERE, SMALLER PLACE SO THAT PEOPLE CAN LIVE.
I THINK WE NEED TO FOCUS ON BRINGING THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
UH, WE CAN GO VERTICALLY, WE CAN HAVE ALL KIND OF BUSINESS THERE, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE STICK TO OUR VISION AND, UH, IF MAYBE IF WE DO NEED TO DO ANYTHING, ADD TO IT TO MAKE IT MORE VIBRANT, BUT NOT CUT IT DOWN TOTALLY AND MAKE IT BARE.
SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, UH, I WAS, YOU KNOW, LAST TIME I WAS THINKING A LOT DIFFERENT WAY, EVEN LAST FEW WEEKS, I'VE BEEN THINKING A LOT DIFFERENT WAY.
BUT I'M, I THINK, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE STICK TO THIS ORIGINATION AND THAT WOULD BE MY DECISION TONIGHT.
UM, IT WAS NO, NO SECRET THE LAST TIME WE SAW THIS.
UM, IN SINCE HAVING A LOT OF TIME TO THINK ABOUT THAT AND TALKING TO MEMBERS, I JUST, THAT, THAT POSITION ONLY STRENGTHENS.
UM, ONE OF THE THING, COUPLE THINGS THAT STOOD OUT TONIGHT, AND JOE, JOE MADE SOME GREAT POINTS.
HE SAID A LOT BETTER THAN I CAN AND SOME OF OUR SPEAKERS DID AS WELL.
BUT ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAD ONE, UM, RESIDENT TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THESE AREN'T DESIGNED SO THAT THESE BUSINESSES GO ON IN PERPETUITY.
JUST, THERE NEEDS TO BE A LINE WHERE WE DRAW THAT LINE AND SAY, OKAY, WHY DO WE NEED TO REVISIT THESE? WHY DO THEY NEED TO COME BEFORE US? IT'S BECAUSE THINGS CHANGE.
AND WE NEED TO DRAW A LINE SOMEWHERE IN THAT TIMELINE OF, OF OUR CITY AND SAY, OKAY, WHEN THESE BUSINESSES CLOSE, WHICH I MEAN, TONY MENTIONED EARLIER, PERHAPS THAT APPLICANT WASN'T AWARE OF IT, OF THE ZONING.
UM, THEN THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM, I FEEL THAT THAT'S THE RESPONSIBILITY OF, UH, THEIR REAL ESTATE AGENT, NOT OF THIS COUNCIL, UH, TO MAKE THEM AWARE OF THAT.
BUT I, I AM CONCERNED THAT ONE, SOMEBODY MENTIONED DOES NOT DRAW PEOPLE TO THE AREA.
IT DOES DRAW A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF REVENUE, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT REVENUE IN ITSELF MAKES UP FOR OTHER REVENUE LOST WHEN WE LOSE THE VISION.
UM, THE ARGUMENT ABOUT IT ALWAYS BEING USED.
WELL, THAT'S, WE HAVE TO DRAW THE LINE IN SAND SOMEWHERE.
AND WES COUNTRY SONG THAT KEEPS COMING TO MIND WHEN I WAS A KID, I SEE IT.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO STAND FOR SOMETHING OR WE'LL FALL FOR ANYTHING.
AND, UM, I THINK WE AS THE CITY NEED TO STAND FOR SOMETHING.
WE AS A COMMUNITY STAND FOR SOMETHING.
AND THIS IS WHERE I DRAW A LINE AS FAR AS NEW JOBS.
THINK COUNCILMAN UH, MAYOR PROAM, SORRY, SHAEL MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PAY 45, 55, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT PAY THAT'S GONNA BUY YOU A HOUSE IN RICHARDSON.
THAT'S PAY, THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO AFFORD A SMALL APARTMENT IN RICHARDSON.
UM, AND REALITY IS OUR APARTMENTS ARE FULL.
WE HAVE REALLY GOOD, UH, RENTAL RATES IN RICHARDSON.
THE MORE I THINK ABOUT IT, THE MORE I LOOK IN AND OBVIOUSLY LISTENING, I JUST DON'T SEE THE ARGUMENT THERE TO ALLOW THIS TO CHANGE OUR VISION.
AND WITH, I DROVE IT THIS WEEKEND, I FEEL THAT THE APPLICANT, WHEN WE LOOKED AT THIS, I THINK IT WAS A MONTH AGO, FOUR OR FIVE WEEKS AGO OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, SEVERAL OF MY COLLEAGUES EXTENDED AN OLIVE BRANCH, UM, IN TALKING ABOUT GREENERY AND MURALS AND NICE STUFF THAT, OF COURSE I WOULD DEFINITELY NOT SAY NO TO BECAUSE THOSE ARE GOOD THINGS.
BUT I FEEL THEY EXTENDED AN OLIVE BRANCH.
AND THIS WEEKEND WHEN I WAS WALKING, AND I DON'T KNOW WHO MENTIONED IT, BUT ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE RESIDENTS MENTIONED IT TONIGHT.
IN FACT, I HAVE A PICTURE OF MY PHONE WHEN I, WHEN I DROVE THAT THIS WEEKEND, ACTUALLY, I HAD MY MOM IN THE CAR.
SHE'S LIKE, WHY ARE YOU TAKING PICTURES OF THAT RUNDOWN PLACE? I WAS LIKE, MOM, THIS IS NOT A RUNDOWN PLACE.
IT'S, IT'S A, THERE'S, THERE'S A CAR LOT.
IT'S ONE OF THE BIGGER CAR LOTS IN NOR TEXAS, BUT THE MORE SUCCESSFUL DEALERSHIPS IN NOR TEXAS.
BUT THERE IS A BROKEN WIND ON THE BACK.
THERE ARE CARS, THERE'S, THERE WAS GRASS.
I WAS, I WAS GONNA GET OUTTA THE CAR.
MY MOM'S LIKE, DAMN, DON'T DO THAT.
SHE SAID, DON'T, DON'T GET OUT.
BUT THERE WAS GRASS OVER THREE FEET TALL BACK THERE.
UM, IF I WERE COMING BEFORE A COUNCIL AND I KNEW THERE WAS SOME OBJECTION, I WOULD GO BACK AND GET MY DUCKS IN ORDER AND CLEANED IT UP BEFORE COMING TO A COUNCIL AGAIN, ESPECIALLY WHEN COUNCIL MEMBERS EXTENDED AT OLIVE BRANCH, UM, BY BEING OPEN
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TO SOME TYPE OF, UH, LANDSCAPE DESIGN.AND I THINK BASED ON WHAT WE'RE SEEING NOW, WE'RE ASKED TO PUT A LOT OF OUR COMMUNITY ON THE LINE KIND OF EXTENDER NEXT WHEN I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE THAT'S THE NEIGHBOR WE WANT IN THIS DISTRICT.
SO, UM, SO WHILE I WASN'T A FAN OF IT, THEN I WAS HOPING THAT, YOU KNOW, LIKE MOST THINGS, I LIKE TO POKE HOLES IN THINGS.
SO THAT INCLUDES MY OWN STANCE.
I BELIEVE I SHOULD BE CHALLENGED AT ALL TIMES SO THAT I CAN MAKE MY BELIEFS SO I CAN UNDERSTAND THEM BETTER AND DEVELOP A DEEPER THINKING AND DEVELOP A DEEPER UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE I STAND ON THINGS.
BUT IN THIS CASE, UM, MY STANCE ONLY STRENGTHENED.
AND, UH, SO I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THIS ZONING FILE.
ANY MORE COMMENTS, MS. JUSTICE? THANK YOU, MAYOR.
UM, SO I, I KNEW THAT THERE WERE, YOU KNOW, BASED ON THE LAST CASE AND READING COMMENTS ONLINE THAT THERE WERE RUMBLES ABOUT, UM, THE PLAN FOR THIS DISTRICT.
UM, BUT I READ THE ENTIRE PLAN.
UM, AND YOU HEARD SOME OF THE VISION TONIGHT WITH, FOR, FOR SPEAKERS WHO SAID, YOU KNOW, THIS IS AN EDGY MIXED USE, UH, ECLECTIC DISTRICT.
UM, AND THEN THE WORDS, UM, ADAPTIVE REUSE ARE USED AND THE PLAN DEFINES WHAT ADAPTIVE REUSE IS.
AND IT'S A WIDE MIX OF USES INCLUDING COMMERCIAL, LIGHT, INDUSTRIAL, INSTITUTIONAL, RESIDENTIAL, AND RETAIL.
UM, AND SO WE'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT SORT OF SMALL BUSINESS AND HOW THAT'S THE VISION.
BUT THE, THE VISION AFTER THE 50 SOME ODD MEETINGS, OR 60 SOME ODD MEETINGS INCLUDES A WIDE MIX OF USES, AS WE SAW ON THE SLIDE EARLIER.
UM, BY RIGHT, THESE, UH, THIS DISPLAYS COULD BE AN AUTO BODY SALES, UH, SHOP THAT'S PERMITTED.
UM, THEY WOULDN'T REQUIRE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
UM, IT COULD BE LIGHT MANUFACTURING, WHICH I DON'T THINK FITS THE VISION OF SOME OF OUR SPEAKERS TONIGHT.
UH, IT COULD BE AN ANTENNA
UM, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK DO FIT THE VISION LIKE A A A FOOD TRUCK PARK WOULD REQUIRE A SPECIAL PERMIT.
UM, SO I ACTUALLY WENT THROUGH AND, AND READ THE PLAN, AND I WENT THROUGH AND LOOKED AT THE, THE PD AND THE FORM-BASED CODE.
AND THE IRONY IS THERE'S A BIG GRAPHIC IN THERE, AND THIS PARTICULAR PLOT OF LAND HAS A BIG STAR ON IT FOR PUBLIC PARKING.
UM, SO I KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT VEHICLES IN THIS AREA AND PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY, BUT THAT PARTICULAR PIECE OF LAND IN OUR FORM-BASED CODE WAS DESIGNATED FOR PUBLIC PARKING.
AND SO I, YOU KNOW, I, I'M, I STRUGGLE A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE I APPRECIATE THE BUSINESS OWNERS IN THIS AREA WHO THINK THAT THIS STRAYS FROM THE VISION, BUT THERE ARE PERMITTED USES THAT ARE EXACTLY ON POINT.
UM, FOR THIS PARTICULAR AREA, UH, WE'VE ASKED THIS BUSINESS OWNER TO COME BACK TO US WITH A PLAN, UM, TO TRY AND FIT THE VIBE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, AND I THINK THAT HE'S DONE THAT.
I THINK IF YOU'RE WALKING DOWN, UH, YOU KNOW, THE COMMONS THERE AND THERE'S A MURAL THAT'S GONNA BE AN ATTRACTION FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE WALKING FROM BELT AT MAINE TO, YOU KNOW, FOUR BULLETS OR TO SOME OF THE OTHER BUSINESSES, PEOPLE ARE GONNA WANNA STOP THERE AND TAKE A PICTURE IN FRONT OF THAT MURAL ON THEIR WAY TO HAVE A GOOD BEER OR ON THEIR WAY FROM, YOU KNOW, HAVING A GOOD BEER.
THEY'LL TAKE A PICTURE ON THEIR WAY TO, UH, YOU KNOW, UM, UH, HAVE A NIGHTCAP
AGAIN, I WOULD MUCH RATHER HAVE AN APPLICANT COME BEFORE US WHO'S WILLING TO WORK WITH THE COUNCIL, PUT A MURAL UP, PAINT THE BUILDINGS, MAKE IT LOOK A LOT BETTER THAN IT DOES.
NOW, ADMITTEDLY, IT DOESN'T LOOK GREAT, BUT WE HAVE AN APPLICANT HERE WHO'S WILLING TO, TO SORT OF PROVIDE A REALLY GREAT FACELIFT.
UM, AND I, AND I THINK THAT, AGAIN, THIS FITS WITH THE SPIRIT OF WHAT THE ACTUAL FORM-BASED CODE SAYS.
AND I THINK WE COULD WIND UP WITH SOMETHING HERE THAT WE REALLY DON'T WANT.
LIKE I, AGAIN, I DIDN'T HEAR TONIGHT THAT YOU WANT LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, BUT IF THIS DOESN'T PASS TONIGHT, SOMEBODY COULD GO BUY THAT TOMORROW AND TURN IT INTO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL MANUFACTURING.
UM, AND SO I, I THINK THAT THIS STRIKES A BALANCE BETWEEN UH, YOU KNOW, AUTO RELATED USES.
THE MAJOR BUILDING THAT'S GONNA BE FACING INTERURBAN IS ONLY A VERY SMALL PORTION OF IT WILL BE USED FOR AUTO PURPOSES.
IT'S GOING TO BE REPAINTED, IT'S GONNA HAVE THE STRAIGHT MURAL, THERE'S GONNA BE NEW LANDSCAPING.
I, I THINK THIS APPLICANT HAS DONE AS MUCH AS THEY CAN TO TRY AND FIT THE VISION OF THIS AREA.
UM, AND I, AND I, I THINK THIS, WE'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT THE RICHARDSON WAY.
I I READ TO YOU TONIGHT FROM THE PLAN.
UM, AND SO I THINK THAT THIS IS THE RICHARDSON WAY.
UH, AS I SAID, I, I ACTUALLY READ IT
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I, I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT SAYS.AND THIS COULD BE, UH, INDUSTRIAL INSTEAD OF AUTO USE.
AND BASED ON WHAT WE HEARD TONIGHT, THAT WOULDN'T BE, UM, THE VISION.
SO ANYWAY, I, I'M GETTING REPETITIVE AT THIS POINT, BUT I'M, I'M JUST A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED BECAUSE I DID READ THE PLAN AND, AND I THINK THAT THIS FITS WITHIN IT.
UM, I THINK AS I'VE GONE THROUGH THIS, I'VE TRIED TO REALLY TAKE A HARD, HARD LOOK AND BALANCE EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED PRIOR TO TONIGHT, OVER THE WEEKS, AND THEN WHAT WAS DISCUSSED THIS EVENING.
I WOULD SAY I, I AGREE COMPLETELY, UM, WITH MR. CORCORAN THAT WE NEED TO RE-LOOK AT THIS, BECAUSE I THINK, I PERSONALLY FEEL THAT THAT THE SPACE, IT'S A VERY WIDE SWATH THAT WE HAVE THAT IS TRYING TO DO A LOT OF THINGS ALL IN ONE SPACE.
AND I, I'M NOT SAYING, I'M NOT SAYING THE VISION'S RIGHT, WRONG, OR INDIFFERENT, I JUST THINK IT NEEDS TO BE RE-LOOKED AT.
SO I WOULD FULLY SUPPORT WHAT MR. CORCORAN SAID AS FAR AS THAT, THAT RE-LOOK.
UM, BECAUSE I DO THINK IT'S PROBABLY CONFUSING AT BEST, MAYBE IS THE BEST WAY I CAN SAY IT TONIGHT.
UM, I DO AGREE WITH COUNCILWOMAN JUSTICE ON WHAT SHE SAID.
I ACTUALLY TOOK A DIFFERENT STEP.
I ACTUALLY CALLED AND TALKED TO A FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER WHO WAS ACTUALLY PART OF THIS AND EVERYTHING THAT COUNCILWOMAN JUSTICE IS EXACTLY WHAT I HEARD ON THE TELEPHONE ABOUT WHAT WAS DISCUSSED AND, AND LOOKED AT THIS.
THEY SAW THIS AS AN AREA THAT WAS DIFFERENT THAN OTHER AREAS.
UM, AND SO THEY DID NOT, AS I TALKED THROUGH IT WITH THEM, AGAIN, THEY DON'T HAVE A VOTE ON HERE, BUT I JUST WANTED THEIR, THEIR THOUGHTS AS TO WHAT THEY WERE CONTEMPLATING BACK WHEN THEY ACTUALLY SET ON COUNCIL AND WHAT THEY WERE REVIEWING.
AND THEY ACTUALLY SAID, NO, THIS WOULD, THIS IN THEIR, IN THEIR MIND, THEY FELT IT DID MEET BASED ON EXACTLY WHAT COUNCILWOMAN JUSTICE JUST, JUST, UM, TRANSLATED TO US.
UM, I DO THINK THAT SOMETHING ELSE THAT COUNCILWOMAN JUSTICE SAID THAT I, THAT I AGREE WITH COMPLETELY, IS WE ASKED THIS, THIS APPLICANT APPLICANT TO GO BACK AND DO HOMEWORK TO TRY AND MEET THE VISION THAT WAS BEING DISCUSSED SEVERAL WEEKS AGO.
AND I THINK THEY DID EXACTLY THAT.
I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE COME IN AND THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT PAINTING THE BUILDINGS, TRYING TO MAKE IT, UM, VERY, VERY MUCH FIT IN A MURAL.
UM, YOU KNOW, EVERY TIME THERE'S BEEN A QUESTION, UH, COUNCILMAN DORIAN SAID, WELL, CAN WE PUT THIS TO THE, TO THE CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION TO GET THEIR INPUT? UM, AND THE ANSWER WAS YES.
YOU KNOW, THAT THEY WOULD, THEY WOULD, THEY WOULD HAPPILY DO THAT AND, AND WORK WITH THAT, THAT GROUP WITH WORK WITH OUR CITY, WORK WITH, WORK WITH EVERYONE.
AND SO I AGREE WITH, WITH, AGAIN, WHAT, UH, COUNCILWOMAN JUSTICE SAID AS FAR AS, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER THINGS THAT COULD GO INTO THIS SPACE THAT WOULD BE MY WORDS, MUCH MORE HARMFUL THAN WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED HERE.
UM, IT'S BEEN HERE, I, I MEAN, IF, AND AGAIN, IF, IF THERE'S TRULY, IF TRULY SOMEONE OR SOMETHING, I MEAN, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE ALWAYS GOTTA REMEMBER IS WE AS A CITY CAN DO SOMEWHAT TO GET DEVELOPMENT, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE HAVE TO HAVE PEOPLE COME IN WHO ARE PRIVATE INVESTORS, PRIVATE DEVELOPERS, PRIVATE GROUPS COME IN AND DEVELOP.
A LOT OF THE, A LOT OF THE FOLKS THAT TALK TONIGHT VERY, VERY WELL INTENTIONED, THEY'RE NOT COMING IN TO DEVELOP.
UM, SOME ARE OBVIOUSLY FOUR BULLETS HAS, AND CERTAINLY TAKE MY HAT OFF, TWO, FOUR BULLETS FOR WHAT THEY HAVE DONE.
UM, I, I JUST THINK THAT AT THE CURRENT POINT IN TIME, IT, IT, IT DOES, IT, IT, I TRULY FEEL LIKE IT IS A TWEAK.
I DON'T THINK IT'S A WHOLESALE CHANGE OF THE WHOLE, UM, COMPONENT OF THE, OF THIS THAT WAS, WAS SOMEWHAT BEING INTIMATED HERE.
UM, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT LIKE THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE SCENARIO IS GOING TO BE COMPLETELY, YOU KNOW, RE REZONED, RETHOUGHT BASED ON THIS ONE PARCEL BEING, BEING DONE TO IT, WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT, UM, BASED ON EVERYTHING THAT I REVIEWED TALKING WITH PREVIOUS COUNSEL, TALKING TO, TO EVERYONE, I'M, I'M VERY MUCH INCLINED TO, TO SUPPORT THIS AND, AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.
UM, I'LL TAKE THAT LIBERTY TO MAKE A COUPLE OBSERVATIONS BEFORE WE GO ON.
I, I'VE GOT A COUPLE PEOPLE THAT'D LIKE TO SPEAK AGAIN, AND I, I THINK IT, MS. JUSTICE USED THE WORD, THE SPIRIT OF WHAT WAS HAPPENING,
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AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT, BUT I THINK AS A CITY, WE HAD TO LOOK AT THE FACT THAT CLAY COOLEY BUSINESS CAME AND BOUGHT THIS SITE AND INVESTED IN RICHARDSON, THE FOREFATHERS WHO PUT THIS VISION OUT THERE THAT EVERYBODY'S TALKING ABOUT THE VISION, THEY WERE VERY CLEAR THAT THEY LEFT THESE THINGS IN THAT THEY COULD BE A SPECIAL PERMIT.THERE'S ONLY THREE THINGS THAT COULD HAPPEN.
YOU COULD HAVE ALLOWED BY RIGHT? OR YOU COULD HAVE ALLOWED BY SPECIAL PERMIT.
WELL, IT WAS ALREADY A BODY SHOP.
WHY WOULD THEY THINK ANYTHING DIFFERENT? THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL LEFT THAT LIST OF THINGS THAT IT COULD POSSIBLY BE.
SO I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK WE'RE, IF WE WERE TO VOTE FOR THIS, THAT WE'RE CHANGING THE VISION BY ANY MEANS.
THE THIRD OPTION WOULD BE IT'S NOT ALLOWED, PERIOD.
I THINK THE COUNCIL, AS FAR AS OUR VISION, THIS COUNCIL, AND HOPEFULLY I CAN SPEAK FOR THEM, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY ON OUR COUNCIL WANTS AND SUPPORTS VACANT BUILDINGS.
THIS IS A VACANT BUILDING, AND THAT'S WHY IT'S GOT GRASS GROWING UP.
THAT'S WHY IT'S GOT UNKNOWN THINGS.
IT WAS IN BAD SHAPE WHEN THE CURRENT OWNER BOUGHT IT.
AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU KNOW THAT THE CITY DOESN'T OWN IT.
WE, THE CITY CAN'T GO OVER THERE AND DO SOMETHING WITH PROPERTY WE DON'T OWN.
I COMPARE THIS A LITTLE BIT TO OWENS COUNTRY SAUSAGE, THE FARM, SPRING CREEK FARM.
OUR RESIDENTS REALLY DID NOT WANT IT TO GO INTO A WAREHOUSE TYPE DISTRICT, BUT IT HAD BEEN ZONED FOR A HUNDRED YEARS THAT IT WAS MANUFACTURER, IT WAS RE, YOU KNOW, THAT TYPE OF INDUSTRY.
THE VERY FIRST TIME THAT CASE CAME IN FRONT OF US, WE TURNED 'EM DOWN BECAUSE THE RESIDENTS WANTED IT, US TO TURN IT DOWN, AND WE VOTED.
THEN THE OWNERS CAME IN AND THEY SAID, OKAY, WE'RE GONNA DO THIS WITH IT.
AND YOU SEE WHAT'S GOING UP, IT'S WAREHOUSES RIGHT TO THIS DAY, BECAUSE BY RIGHT, THEY COULD DO THAT.
WE GET INTO A, UM, TOUGH SITUATIONS, AND THIS ONE'S TOUGH, BUT I THINK THAT I AGREE WITH, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE COUNCILWOMAN JUSTICE DOING HER HOMEWORK AND READING IT AND ARTICULATING IT SO WELL, WHAT IT REALLY SAYS, BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF VERSIONS, BUT THAT'S NOT ACCURATE.
THERE'S ONLY THREE THINGS THAT COULD HAVE HAPPENED OUT OF THIS, AND OUR PREVIOUS COUNSEL SPECIFICALLY LEFT THIS OPTION IN THERE BECAUSE IT WAS AN OPTION SO IT COULD BE ADDRESSED.
UM, I DON'T WANT VACANT BUILDINGS OVER THERE.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE WORST CASE SCENARIO AS FAR AS BRINGING PEOPLE TO OUR CITY.
I TRULY BELIEVE THAT CLAY COOLEY, THE ORGANIZATION, THEY HAVE BEEN OVER BACKWARDS TO ACCOMMODATE TO COME IN AND SAY, WE WANT TO BE GOOD CITIZENS, GOOD NEIGHBORS, AND WE'LL DO WHATEVER YOU ASK US TO DO.
I'VE HEARD THAT MULTIPLE TIMES.
WE COULD DO A LOT WORSE LIKE MR. HUTCHIN WRITER SAID.
SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M AT.
UM, I THINK WE OWE IT TO THEM TO FOLLOW THAT VISION AS IT WAS INTENDED, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT I'LL BE DOING FOR SURE.
SO I THINK MS. JUSTICE, YOU LIGHT WAS ON FIRST.
UH, A COUPLE OF PEOPLE MADE COMMENTS ABOUT DOWNTOWN PLANO, AND I LOVE THAT EXAMPLE ABOUT DOWNTOWN PLANO BECAUSE THEY HAVE THIS REALLY COOL DOWNTOWN WITH A, YOU KNOW, IT'S A MIXED USE DISTRICT WITH MULTIFAMILY HOUSING AND RETAIL AND THE DART RAIL RIGHT THERE.
UM, AND NOW THEY HAVE THE SILVER LINE COMING THROUGH, AND THERE'S APARTMENTS AROUND THAT.
BUT BETWEEN THE TWO, OUR AUTOBODY REPAIR SHOPS, THERE'S A LANDSCAPING COMPANY.
UH, I THINK THERE'S SOME LAW OFFICES THERE.
UM, SO I, I, I THINK THAT THIS DISTRICT CAN BE LIKE THAT.
WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF PRAISE FOR THE DOWNTOWN PLANO AREA TONIGHT, AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, ALLOWING THESE, AND I WILL SAY, NO OFFENSE TO PLANO, BUT NOBODY'S GONE IN TO MAKE THOSE BUILDINGS LOOK BETTER.
UM, THIS PROJECT WOULD ACTUALLY MAKE THE BUILDINGS LOOK BETTER.
YOU KNOW, AGAIN, ADDING A MURAL AND A GREAT PAINT, UM, I THINK THAT THIS IS NOT, UM, ANTITHETICAL
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TO WHAT, UH, WHAT WE ENVISIONED HERE.UM, AND IF WE WANNA LOOK AT DOWNTOWN PLANO, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE WHOLE AREA, INCLUDING ALL THE WAY OUT TO THE SILVER LINE.
UM, YOU KNOW, THAT INCLUDES ALL THESE SAME BUSINESSES.
OTHER CRITICISM ABOUT A CASE, UH, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE HAD, UM, LANDSCAPING MATERIALS, FOR EXAMPLE.
THAT EXACT SAME THING IS IN DOWNTOWN PLANO, LIKE ACROSS THE STREET FROM SOME OF THIS AMAZING DEVELOPMENT.
SO, I, I DON'T, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I JUST STRUGGLE A LITTLE BIT, BUT, BUT SOMEBODY, A COUPLE OF PEOPLE MENTIONED DOWNTOWN PLANO, SO I WANTED TO BRING THAT UP.
THIS WOULD BE LIKE DOWNTOWN PLANO, BUT BETTER BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE A MURAL AND THERE'S GONNA BE A PAINT JOB.
AND, AND SO I, I JUST, UM, I, AGAIN, I DON'T SEE HOW THIS IS, UH, ANTITHETICAL TO, TO THE VISION.
YEAH, I, UM, I'M GONNA MAKE SOME COMMENTS AND IT'S, IT'S NOT INTEND, THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE INTENDED AS MAYBE BEING ARGUMENTATIVE TO ANY OF THE POINTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE AND SORT OF THE APPROVED CAMP.
JUST REALLY TO HIGHLIGHT, AGAIN, I THINK THE DISCUSSION TONIGHT HIGHLIGHTS WHY WE NEED TO REVISIT THIS RELATIVELY SOON.
I MEAN, ON SEPTEMBER 9TH, 2014, I WATCHED A 45 MINUTE VIDEO WHERE THE THREE BULLET POINTS COMING OUT OF THAT AFTER THAT DISCUSSION ON THIS SPECIFIC SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
AND THESE, WELL, NOT THIS WELL, BUT THIS TYPE OF PERMIT IN THIS SPECIFIC AREA, THREE BULLET POINTS COMING OUT OF THAT, MAINTAIN A BALANCE OF AUTO ORIENTED USES, CONTINUE SPECIAL PERMIT PROCESS AS GENERALLY ALLOWED FOR AUTO ORIENTED USES IN THE CZO TODAY, ALTHOUGH WANT TO SEE A DOWNWARD TREND OF APPROVING SPECIAL PERMITS IN THE FUTURE.
CONSIDER ADDITIONAL AUTO ORIENTED USES, EXAMPLE INCUBATOR BUSINESSES THAT WOULD FIT IN AN URBAN SUBDISTRICT.
AND I TALKED TO A COUNCIL MEMBER AT THE TIME AS WELL, PROBABLY A DIFFERENT ONE THAT CONFIRMED THAT.
SO, I MEAN, I, IT'S NOT TO MAYBE A ATTACK ANYONE IN THAT CAMP OR EVEN BE ARGUMENTATIVE, JUST TO SAY THAT EVEN WITHIN THE OWN, EVEN WITHIN THE WORK THAT WAS DONE 10 YEARS AGO, THERE'S SOME CONFLICTING OPINIONS IT SEEMS LIKE, AND CONFLICTING THINGS COMING OUT OF THAT THAT MAYBE WE SHOULD ADDRESS.
THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I'M TRYING TO SAY.
AND THAT'S NOT, IT'S NOT EVEN A KNOCK ON THE WORK THAT WAS DONE THEN, RIGHT? IT'S, IT'S JUST SAYING THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT NOW AND GET A REFRESHER ON AND BE ON THE SAME PAGE.
I THINK THAT'S A GOOD HOMEWORK ASSIGNMENT FOR US.
I DON'T DISAGREE, AND I THINK MR. MAGNER COULD MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
SO, MR. BARRIOS, THANK YOU, MAYOR.
UM, I ABSOLUTE, I ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN CORCORAN ABOUT REVISITING AND MAYBE REFOCUSING, UM, REDEFINING WHAT THIS MEANS GOING FORWARD.
YOU KNOW, WHEN WE PUT AN ARGUMENT THAT THERE'S BEEN SEVERAL ARGUMENTS, NOT ARGUMENTS BACK AND FORTH, BUT BASIS OF WHICH WE'VE TAKEN STANCE HERE IN THE LAST FEW MINUTES, UM, UM, THAT HAVE BEEN MADE ABOUT, WELL, WE SPOKE TO THIS COUNCILMAN, OR WE, YOU KNOW, AND YES, THERE'S, BUT JUST LIKE THIS COUNCIL, OBVIOUSLY, WE EACH HAVE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WERE TO ASK, HEY, HOW DID Y'ALL VOTE? WHAT WAS YOUR OPINION ON WHY YOU VOTED ON THIS THING? EVERYBODY HAS A DIFFERENT INTERPRETATION AND REASONING FOR CERTAIN VOTES.
UM, AND I OFTEN, WHEN PEOPLE ASK ME ABOUT VOTES AND HOW WE VOTE ON COUNCIL, I SAY, YOU KNOW, ON ONE VOTE, I MAY ONE BE 100% ALIGNED WITH, UH, COUNCILMAN JUSTICE, ANOTHER ONE, I MAY BE A HUNDRED PERCENT ALIGNED WITH COUNCILMAN HUTCHIN RIDER.
AND THAT'S KIND OF THE NATURE OF HOW, HOW WE VOTE, RIGHT? UM, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS, MAYOR WAS RIGHT, AND THEN HE STATED, YOU KNOW, WE, THEY'RE NOT, THIS IS NOT, UM, NOT ALLOWED.
UM, AND WE ARE ALLOWED TO VIEW THESE BY SPECIAL PERMIT, UM, AND WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE THAT DECISION.
AND I THINK THAT WHILE TO COUNCILMAN JUSTICE'S POINT, YOU KNOW, IF THIS IS APPROVED TONIGHT, WE'RE NO DOUBT GONNA TRY TO DO BEST WE CAN TO MAKE THIS WORK, BECAUSE THAT'S WHO WE ARE AS A CITY.
UH, THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S WHO WE ARE.
UH, THERE'S GREAT CULTURE IN THIS, AND THIS ONE DECISION DOES NOT DEFINE THE CULTURE OF THE CITY.
IT DOES NOT DEFINE OUR HISTORY NOR OUR FUTURE.
BUT IT IS, IT DEFINITELY, I THINK, SPEAKS VOLUMES TO PEOPLE WHO ARE WATCHING, UM, NOT JUST THE BUSINESS OWNERS PRESENT TONIGHT, OUR RESIDENTS TO DEVELOPING THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY.
WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT THIS AND REVIEW THIS.
AND WHILE IT WAS NOT DENIED, IT WAS ALSO NOT APPROVED BY RIGHT.
AND WE DIDN'T ASK WHAT THOSE REASONS ARE.
IT'S SO THAT FUTURE COUNCILS CAN MAKE THE DECISION.
SO THEY HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY BASED ON CHANGING A CULTURE, CHANGES THE FINANCES, CHANGES IN THE BUSINESS NEEDS OF, OF, UH, THE, UH, INVESTMENT COMMUNITY SO THAT THERE'S SOME FLEXIBILITY.
WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF LOOKING AT, UM, FINISHING UP OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT EITHER THIS OR FUTURE FUTURE COUNCILS WILL HAVE TO MAKE SOME DEC SIMILAR DECISIONS THAT WERE MADE AND
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SIMILAR VISIONING.AND WE TOO, WHETHER THIS COUNCIL, THE NEXT OR THE ONE AFTER THAT, WILL ALSO MAKE DECISIONS TO ALLOW SOME FLEXIBILITY SO THAT FUTURE COUNCILS CAN REVIEW THINGS AS THE NEEDS CHANGE.
AND AS INDUSTRY CHANGES, THAT IS WHY IT'S BEFORE US, IS BECAUSE THOSE SAME DECISIONS WERE MADE.
NOT, I, I HAVE, IT'S NOT BECAUSE, OH, WE'RE GONNA LEAVE IT IN BECAUSE THIS WAS, UM, WHAT WE WANT AND WE WANNA ALLOW, YOU KNOW, SPECIAL PERMITS FOR, IT'S A SPECIAL PERMIT FOR A REASON.
THEY'RE, IT'S COMING BEFORE US FOR DECISIONS, JUST LIKE WE'RE GONNA ALLOW FLEXIBILITY FOR FUTURE COUNCILS TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS.
SO THE ARGUMENT OF, WE DON'T, NOT, WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, DENY THEM THE ABILITY TO BILL.
WE DON'T DENY THEM ABILITY BILL, BUT THAT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY, IS TO LOOK AT THIS.
AND IF, UM, SO I DO, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT IS YES, IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO LOOK AT IT, EVEN IF IT WASN'T DENIED THOSE, WE DO HAVE THAT ABILITY TO SAY NO TO IT.
AND IT'S NOT JUST ABILITY TO SAY NO, BECAUSE WE WENT EMPTY BUILDINGS.
I AGREE WITH MAYOR, NONE OF US WANT EMPTY BUILDINGS.
I, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYBODY PROBABLY IN THIS WHOLE BUILDING THAT WOULD STAND UP AND SAY, WE WANT EMPTY BUILDINGS.
THE MORE EMPTY BUILDINGS, THE MORE PERSONAL TAX BURDEN IT BECOMES, UM, FOR THOSE OF US WHO ARE HOMEOWNERS.
AND SO WE DON'T WANT EMPTY BUILDINGS, BUT WE ALSO NEED TO HAVE SOME KIND OF, I GUESS, PRIDE THAT WE JUST DON'T GIVE IT TO THE FIRST PERSON THAT COMES THROUGH THAT DOOR.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK AS A PERSONAL VALUE.
UM, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING AS A, AS A PARENT, I TRY TO TEACH MY OWN SON IS, HEY, YOU GOTTA VALUE WHO YOU ARE.
AND I THINK RIGHT NOW WE GOTTA ASK OURSELVES WHO WE ARE AND DO WE HAVE THE VALUES OR DO WE VALUE OURSELF AS A COMMUNITY AND AS A CITY TO HOLD OUT TO SEE WHAT CAN BECOME VERSUS JUST GIVING IT TO THE FIRST SPECIAL PERMIT THAT COMES TO US IN THIS AREA.
I THINK WITH ITS LOCATION TO THE PARK, THIS $5 MILLION INVESTMENT WE'RE MAKING, ITS LOCATION.
AGAIN, IF IT WERE, AND I SAID THIS THE LAST TIME WE SAW THIS, IF WE WERE ON THE NORTH END, IF WE WERE ON THE FAR SOUTH END, ON THE EDGES RIGHT IN THE HEART, RIGHT AT THE EDGE OF THAT BELTWAY PARK, THAT AREA JUST ISN'T RIGHT.
I THINK WE AS A COMMUNITY COULD DO MUCH BETTER.
WELL, UH, I THINK FEW POINTS CAME UP.
SO I THINK I NEED TO CLEAR A FEW THINGS ON MY SIDE.
UH, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, I MEAN, THESE ARE ALL WITHIN VISION.
UH, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T, WHEN WE SAY THAT THIS IS PREFERRED, THIS IS PERMITTED, THIS IS ACCEPTABLE WITH PERMIT, YOU KNOW, THE REASON THAT FOR THAT IS THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU CAN'T REALLY SAY THAT THIS BUSINESS IS NOT ALLOWED HERE AT ALL, WE DON'T DO THAT KIND OF THINGS.
AND NOW WHEN HE SAYS ALLOW WITH PERMIT, TO ME, I SEE THAT THAT'S GONNA BE A COMPONENT IN THAT DISTRICT, A COMPONENT, NOT THE BIG SIGN THERE, YOU KNOW, A DOMINANT BUSINESS.
THAT'S WHY I SEE THAT IT'S NOT GOING GOING TO BE THE DOMINANT BUSINESS IN THE, INTO THAT DISTRICT.
IT'S GOING TO BE, UH, A PIECE THERE LIKE, YOU KNOW, WITH THE CULTURAL DISTRICT, WE ARE SAYING THAT THE WHOLE THING IS GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, IT'LL GIVE YOU DIFFERENT FEELINGS, BUT STILL IT CAN GET SOME OTHER BUSINESS INTO THAT AREA.
SO IF THAT PROPERTY WAS, TO ME, IF THAT DEVELOPMENT WAS WITH OTHER USERS, AND A PIECE INTO THAT IS AUTO BODY SHOP, I WENT, YOU KNOW, CAR SALES, YOU KNOW, LIKE AUTO SHOWROOM, MULTI-STORY BUILDING.
I'VE SEEN MANY BUILDING OVERSEAS THAT IS MULTI-STORY BUILDING DOWNSTAIRS IS, UH, YOU KNOW, AUTO SALES OFFICE.
SO IT'S LIKE THE SHOWROOM, BUT UPSTAIRS, THE RESTAURANTS AND THE NEXT YEAR IS THE PARTY PLACE, YOU KNOW, SO THAT, THAT KIND OF VIEWS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT I WAS HOPING THAT MAYBE IN THE FUTURE, THAT KIND OF THINGS, IF THAT COMES, YOU KNOW, I WOULD BE VERY HAPPY TO SEE THAT.
UH, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT SOMETIMES WE, WE FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT, IF WE DON'T DO THIS, SOMETHING WORSE MIGHT HAPPEN.
THIS IS NOT THE FEELING THAT WE SHOULD HAVE AS A LEADER.
WE SHOULD BE LEADING THAT AS A LEADER, NOT JUST, UH, WORRY ABOUT WHAT COULD HAPPEN.
YOU HAVE TO LOOK ALL OTHER DATA TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNOW, WHAT ELSE COULD HAPPEN.
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THE MARKET PRICE FOR THAT AREA IS HUGE.I'M NOT EXPECTING, I'M NOT WORRIED THAT SOMETHING WILL, SOMEBODY WILL COME HAVE, WILL HAVE SOME KIND OF, UH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, WAREHOUSE OR SOMETHING, IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN THERE BECAUSE THE MARKET DEMAND FOR OTHER THINGS IS MUCH HIGHER IN, IN THAT AREA, ESPECIALLY, UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN I MENTIONED 1600 IS SQUARE FEET CONDO IS GOING TO BE SELLING LIKE 500 PLUS PROBABLY $600,000.
SO THE LAND PRICE, THE RETURN OF INVESTMENT, IF YOU DO ALL THOSE KIND OF MATH, I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT FOR THAT DISTRICT THAT WHAT, YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT SEE SOME TERRIBLE THINGS HAPPEN.
SO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THIS IS, UH, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, UH, UH, IF WE MAKE SOME, UH, YOU KNOW, DECISION BASED ON THAT, SOMETIMES WE ARE GONNA, UH, GET STUCK BECAUSE IN THE FUTURE, I'LL, I'LL TELL YOU ONE MORE EXAMPLE.
YOU KNOW, I TALKED TO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, YOU KNOW HOW THAT HAPPENED.
AND, UH, THEY WERE WORRIED THAT THIS IS GONNA BE EMPTY, YOU KNOW, BUT IT'S NOT GONNA BE USED THAT TIME.
IT WAS, THEY DID NOT THINK THAT IN THE FUTURE, THINGS WILL CHANGE IN A FEW YEARS.
SO THEY APPROVED A STORAGE UNIT NEXT TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND IT'S ALL KIND OF, YOU KNOW, IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU'LL MAKE MISTAKE THAT THERE MIGHT BE ANOTHER STORE WHEN YOU DRIVE AROUND.
EVEN I KNEW THAT THERE IS A STORAGE UNIT.
I MISTAKENLY DROVE THAT AREA A FEW TIMES HOPING FOR SOME ST SHOP.
SO, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T MAKE DECISION BASED ON YOU ARE WORRY ABOUT SOMETHING OR HAPPEN.
UH, HOPE FOR THE BEST, LOOK FOR THE BEST, LOOK AT THE MARKET CONDITION, LOOK AT THE DATA, MAKE YOUR DECISION.
BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT TO DEBATE WITH OTHERS.
I'M JUST WANTED TO SH UH, SHARE SOME THOUGHT, BUT I THINK WE ARE END OF THE DAY, WE'LL BE ABSOLUTELY GOOD BECAUSE OUR OVERALL VISION IS STILL INTACT.
OKAY, MR. HUTCH, WRITER, MAYOR, I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER RED LIGHT, SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE, BE ABLE TO MAKE THE DECISION.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ZONING FILE 24 16 AS REQUESTED.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, MS. JUSTICE.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING AS WRITTEN.
[8. PUBLIC HEARING, ZONING FILE 24-19, A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF A SPECIAL PERMIT FOR A HYPNOSIS TRAINING CENTER WITHIN AN EXISTING LEASE SPACE LOCATED ON A 5.45-ACRE LOT CURRENTLY ZONED LR-M (2) LOCAL RETAIL WITHIN AN EXISTING 122,893 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING AT 275 W. CAMPBELL ROAD, ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF W. CAMPBELL ROAD, EAST OF GATEWAY BOULEVARD. ]
THAT TAKES US TO NUMBER EIGHT.A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF A SPECIAL PERMIT FOR A HYPNOSIS TRAINING CENTER WITHIN AN EXISTING LEASE SPACE, LOCATED ON A 5.45 ACRE LOT, CURRENTLY ZONED LOCAL RETAIL WITHIN AN EXISTING 122,893 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING AT 2 75 WEST CAMPBELL ROAD ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF WEST CAMPBELL ROAD, EAST OF GATEWAY BOULEVARD.
MR. MAGNER, UH, THANK YOU MAYOR.
AMBER'S GONNA MAKE HER WAY TO THE PODIUM, UH, TO PRESENT THIS CASE.
UM, SUBSEQUENT TO THAT, I THINK, UM, THE APPLICANT, UH, IS HERE, UH, TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
SO AMBER, THANK YOU, AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU.
AS THE, UM, AS THE, THE NOTICE FOR THE CASE READS, IT IS A REQUEST FOR A TRAINING CENTER FOR A HYPNOSIS TRAINING CENTER, UM, 2 75 WEST CAMPBELL ROAD.
THIS IS THE, UM, THE UNIVERSITY PLAZA BUILDING.
SO IT IS A, UM, A SIX STORY OFFICE BUILDING.
IT'S 122,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING.
UH, THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A NEW PERMIT.
UM, THIS BUSINESS HAS BEEN OPERATING AT THIS LOCATION, UH, IN A DIFFERENT SUITE SPACE, UM, SINCE 2019.
UH, THEY'RE LOOKING TO RELOCATE IN THE SITE THE WAY THE PERMIT HAPPENED TO BE, UM, WRITTEN AS THE CASE WAS SPECIAL PERMITS, LOT OF THE TIMES THEY'RE TIED TO THIS SPECIFIC LOCATION TO, UM, BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY IT WAS REVIEWED AT THE TIME TO TIE IT TO THAT SITE.
UM, SO IT WAS TIED TO THE SPECIFIC SUITE, UM, NUMBER AND AND SIZE THERE.
UH, THIS USE HAS BEEN OPERATING SINCE THAT TIME.
WE HAVEN'T BEEN AWARE OF ANY COMPLAINT OR ISSUE.
UM, IT IS, UH, PRIMARILY AN OFFICE, AND THEN THEY DO, UH, AN OFFICE WHERE THEY, UM, DO THERAPY.
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THEN THEY, UH, THE SPECIFIC USE THAT REQUIRES THE, THE SPECIAL PERMIT, UM, IS, UH, THE HYPNOSIS TRAINING, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE LISTED AS A USE.UH, THERE'S ALLOWANCE FOR REQUESTING AN UNLISTED USE.
AND, UM, THE WAY THAT THIS SPECIFIC, UH, BUSINESS OPERATES IS THEY, UH, DO UP TO, UM, FOUR TRAININGS A YEAR.
AND THEN THE TRAINING SESSIONS ARE ABOUT SEVEN DAYS LONG.
UM, THEIR TYPICAL OFFICE HOUR, UH, CLASS TIMEFRAME, SO NINE TO SIX 30.
UM, THEY HAVE, UH, SIX TO EIGHT STUDENTS, UM, THAT THEY HAVE BROUGHT, UM, ONSITE, AND THEN THEY HAVE ADDITIONAL STUDENTS THAT ARE, UH, DOING THE COURSE ONLINE.
UM, SO THAT IS THE, THE NATURE OF THE BUSINESS IN THIS CASE.
UM, IN LOOKING AT IMPACTS OR CONSIDERATIONS, UH, FOR CONDITIONS FOR THE SPECIAL PERMIT, UM, THE USE ITSELF AND THE, THE SIZE OF THE SPACE THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE RELOCATING TO IS A SMALLER SIZE.
IT'S A FIF, A 1500 SQUARE FOOT SPACE.
UM, THE, UH, THE BUILDING HAS, UM, AMPLE PARKING FOR IT MEETS THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE OFFICE SPACE.
SO THE ADDITIONAL, THE USE OF THIS TRAINING CENTER, UH, DOESN'T, UM, SEEM TO WARRANT OR HAVE AN IMPACT THAT WOULD REQUIRE ADDITIONAL PARKING OR CONSIDERATIONS.
UM, AND SO WE, UH, THIS IS THE INTERIOR OF THE SPACE.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEWED IT SEPTEMBER 3RD, AND THEY, UM, VOTED TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST.
AND WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS RECEIVED AT THAT MEETING OR UP TO THIS POINT.
UM, AND SO THE, UH, THE, WE, UM, THE COMMISSION HAD THE, UH, MADE THE RECOMMENDATION WITH THE, UM, CENTER CONDITIONS THAT WE DO HAVE, WHICH DIDN'T, IN THIS CASE TIE IT TO A SPECIFIC SPACE IN THE BUILDING.
IT WOULD BE TIED TO THAT ADDRESS, BUT NOT TO A SPECIFIC, UM, SWEEP SPACE.
SO PERHAPS IN THE FUTURE, IF THEY WANT TO RELOCATE WITHIN THE BUILDING, IT, THAT MIGHT BE AN OPTION.
SO IF THAT'S A, UM, CONCERN, THEN AGAIN, YOU CAN LOOK AT THAT AS A CONDITION.
OKAY? MM-HMM,
AT THIS TIME, I GUESS WE'D LIKE ASK THE APPLICANT TO COME FORWARD, ADD ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR CLARIFICATIONS, PLEASE.
AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.
I'M CAL BAAN AND I'M 1 0 1 0 9 BROADMOOR LANE IN ROULETTE.
ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD? JUST, UM, WE'RE MOVING ABOUT 60 FEET DOWN THE HALLWAY.
TECHNOLOGY HAS CAUSED A LOT OF OUR STUDENTS TO BE ABLE TO TAKE THE COURSE ONLINE, LIVE ONLINE, AND SO WE HAVE LESS, UH, NEED FOR, UH, OFFICE SPACE.
AND WE'RE, WE'RE SPENDING ABOUT HALF OUR TIME IN THE OFFICE AND HALF AT HOME.
AND SO, UH, WE'VE, WE'VE PAIRED IT DOWN ABOUT A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET, BUT WE WANNA JUST KEEP ON GOING 'CAUSE WE SERVE AS A INTERNATIONAL HUB FOR OUR TRAINING ORGANIZATION.
WE'LL ASK YOU TO TAKE A SEAT AND THANK YOU.
IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL THINGS WE MAY ASK YOU TO COME BACK AT THIS TIME, WE'D LIKE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
MS. NEER, ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? I HAVE NO CARDS, MAYOR.
SEEING NONE, I, YOU LOOKING FOR A MOTION? WELL, I DON'T EVEN HAVE TO OPEN IT, I GUESS, DID I? NO, THERE ARE NONE.
SO, MR. HUTCHER, I CAN CLOSE IT IF YOU LIKE.
WE'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ALL IN FAVOR? CLOSING THE PUBLIC.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION BY COUNSEL? ALRIGHT, MR. HUTCHIN WRIGHT, SEEING NONE, YOU GOT A MOTION? MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ZONING FILE 24 DASH 19 AS REQUESTED.
ALRIGHT, MR. SHAUL? I WOULD HAPPILY TO SECOND IT.
ALRIGHT, WE GOT A MOTION TO SECOND.
[9. PUBLIC HEARING, ZONING FILE 24-20, A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF A SPECIAL PERM IT FOR AN AMUSEMENT ARCADE ON A 4.58-ACRE LOT CURRENTLY ZONED C-M COMMERCIAL WITHIN A 1,927 SQUARE FOOT EXISTING LEASE SPACE LOCATED AT 1362 E. BELT LINE ROAD, SOUTH OF BELT LINE ROAD ON THE WEST SIDE OF PLANO ROAD.]
NUMBER NINE, PUBLIC HEARING ZONING FILE 24 DASH 20 A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF A SPECIAL PERMIT FOR AN AMUSEMENT ARCADE ON A 4.58 ACRE LOT, CURRENTLY ZONED CM COMMERCIAL WITHIN A 1,927 SQUARE FOOT EXISTING LEASE SPACE LOCATED AT 1362 EAST BELTLINE ROAD, SOUTH OF BELTLINE ROAD ON THE WEST SIDE OF PLAN PLANO ROAD.I REMEMBER, UH, IS GONNA TAKE HER AWAY TO THE PODIUM THERE FOR THE HAT TRICK FOR THE EVENING.
GREAT JOB AMBER AND, UH, MAYOR AND COUNSEL.
THE APPLICANT IS HERE, UH, AS WELL AS THE PROPERTY OWNER.
AND, UM, SO, UH, THEY'LL, THEY'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS REGARDING OPERATIONS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
SO THIS IS ANOTHER SPECIAL PERMIT REQUEST.
UM, AS I STATED, IT'S THE AREA THAT IS SOUTHWEST OF, UM, BELT LANE ROAD AND PLANO ROAD IN THE, IN THE SHOPPING COMPLEX
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COMPLEX THERE WHERE, UH, 'CAUSE THIS IS ZONED CM ZONE AND, UM, IN THIS ZONE THEN, UH, THE USE OF AN, UM, AN AMUSEMENT ARCADE DOES REQUIRE A SPECIAL PERMIT FOR REVIEW.UH, SO THEY HAVE A, A SPACE HERE IN THIS LOCATION THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE SPECIFIC USES, UM, FOR THE CLAW MACHINE TYPE, UM, ARCADE GAMES.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE, UM, ONLY TYPE OF ARCADE GAME THAT HAPPENS TO BE IN THIS, UH, THIS CONCEPT.
SO THE, THE SITE ITSELF IN REVIEWING IT, UM, AND THE USE, UM, IT, THE MAIN THINGS THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF THIS USE WERE, UH, LOOKING HOURS OPERATION AS WELL AS MEETING THE PARKING REQUIREMENT.
UM, SO FOR THIS LOCATION AND SITE, THE UH, PLANNING COMMISSION DID, UH, REVIEW IT IN SEPTEMBER AND, UM, DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS TO THIS POINT.
UM, THE COMMISSION VOTED TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
UM, THEY, UH, RECOMMENDED APPROVAL WITH THE CONDITIONS, UH, THAT THE, UM, OF ESTABLISHING A PARKING RATIO, UH, THE SITE DOES MEET THAT PARKING RATIO AND THEN, UM, TO INCLUDE THE HOURS OPERATION AS THEY'VE BEEN PROPOSED.
AND THEN, UH, JUST THE CONDITION OF NOT ALLOWING, UM, THE USE OF EIGHT LINERS OR SIMILAR GAMING DEVICES.
AND THAT'S A STANDARD CONDITION THAT WE DO ON, UM, ARCADE, OUR ARCADE USES.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THERE'S CONSIDERATION FOR USE LIKE THIS.
COUNSEL, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? MR. CHU? THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.
WELL THANK YOU AMBER, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
UH, QUESTION WHY THIS KIND OF BUSINESS NEED PERMIT? ANY IDEA, I MEAN, OF WHY IT FALLS UNDER A SPECIAL PERMIT AS OPPOSED TO BEING PERMITTED OUTRIGHT? UM, IT HAS BEEN THAT WAY FOR A LONG TIME AND I THINK THAT IT HAS, UH, THAT, AND THAT IT HASN'T BEEN REVIEWED.
THERE'S TWO ZONES THAT IT REQUIRES THE PERMIT FOR.
UM, PARTLY I THINK TO REVIEW, UH, RELATED USES THAT COME WITH THAT.
IF SOME, IF THEY'RE, UM, IF IT'S ASSOCIATED WITH, WE'VE SOME SEEN SOME THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE BAR OR, UM, OTHER RESTAURANT USES, UH, LIKE WHAT THE NATURE OF IT IS GEARED TOWARDS.
I MEAN, WITH THE HOURS IT OPERATES, UM, IF THERE'S CERTAIN TRAFFIC NEEDS AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IN ALL CASES ARE ALL SHOPPING CENTERS, IT MIGHT NOT BE APPROPRIATE RIGHT OFF.
AND SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN CONSIDERED.
I MEAN, IT'S A UNIQUE USE AND YOU WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT'S THE RIGHT FIT FOR THE LOCATION THAT IT'S PROPOSED AND THE COUNCIL JUST GETS TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE A LITTLE EXTRA LEVEL OF SCRUTINY, SCRUTINY TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, IT MEETS ALL OF THE OBJECTIVES THAT YOU HAVE FOR, UH, AN AMUSEMENT CENTER LIKE THIS.
UH, YEAH, THIS IS MORE LIKE A ROUND ONE TYPE BUSINESS, ONLY SMALLER SIZE, I GUESS, YOU KNOW.
WHERE IS ROUND ONE? UH, THERE YOU MEAN FREE PLAY? FREE PLAY, FREE PLAY IS THE ONE OVER BY BASKET.
ROBINS GRAPEVINE HAS THEIR OWN ONE.
YEAH, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT.
BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE A KIDS, THEY WOULD, YOUNG KIDS.
THEN THE APPLICANT MIGHT BE ABLE TO TELL US IF IT'S SIMILAR.
WE'LL CALL YOU UP IN JUST A, YEAH.
ANY, ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? AMBER? GREAT JOB.
OKAY, AT THIS TIME WE ASK THE APPLICANT TO PLEASE COME FORWARD.
PLEASE REMEMBER TO STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
UH, MY ADDRESS IS ONE SIX ZERO FOUR PORT.
DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR THING, ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THE PRESENTATION? YES, HE WAS MENTIONING FREE PLAY ROUND ONE.
FREE PLAY IS MORE LIKE YOUR AMERICAN ARCADE WHERE YOU'RE PUTTING A QUARTER IN, YOU'RE PLAYING A FIVE, 10 MINUTE GAME, LIKE VIDEO GAME US IS MORE OF LIKE A CLAW SHOP, WHICH YOU'RE WINNING PRIZES FOR YOUR KIDS, FAMILY, FRIENDS.
SO WE'RE JUST STRICTLY WINNING PRIZES, TOYS.
WHAT DOES IT COST TO UM, TRY TO CLAW ONE OF THOSE THINGS OUT? IT'S A DOLLAR A TOKEN SIR.
AND THEN WHAT MAKES US DIFFERENT IS, UM, YOU COME IN, YOU WIN A BUNCH OF LITTLE TOYS AND THEN YOU GET TO TRADE IT FOR LIKE A MASSIVE TOY LIKE YOU SEE AT THE STATE FAIR OR SOMETHING.
SO IT'S LIKE IT'S ALL OVER AROUND LIKE AM ASIA AND NOW IT'S COMING ALL AROUND AMERICA.
AND THEN I WOULD BE, THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST ONE IN DFW, UM, IN TWO MONTHS I HAVE ONE OPENING IN CARROLLTON AND THEN NEXT YEAR I HAVE ONE OPENING IN FORT WORTH.
SO WHEN IT COST ME $150 TO GET MY GRANDCHILD'S LITTLE, NO IT
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AT THE STATE FAIR, I COULD GET IT FROM YOU FOR, FOR A WAY CHEAPER.THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO HEAR YOU SAY.
AND GUARANTEE MR. DORIAN, YOU GOT A QUESTION? YES.
COUPLE QUESTIONS IS WHAT ARE THE HOURS OF OPERATION? THE HOURS OF OPERATION? UH, WE DID SIGN UP FOR 12 TO NINE, BUT FOR US WE ARE GONNA OPEN AROUND TWO TO NINE AND THEN 12 IS GONNA BE LIKE ON HOLIDAYS OR SOMETHING.
SO THAT'S WHY WE JUST ASK FOR 12.
'CAUSE EVERYBODY'S AT SCHOOL AT THAT TIME, SO NOBODY'S GOING TO, I'M GET NO BUSINESS AT 12.
SO WE'RE GONNA OPEN RIGHT ABOUT TWO AND IT'S ALL, ALL THE MACHINES ARE JUST GRABBED.
SO THERE'S A, THERE'S A GIFT SHOP IN FRONT AND THEN THE, AND THEN EVERYTHING ELSE IS JUST GONNA BE ABOUT 37 CLAW MACHINES.
UM, DID YOU SAY THIS IS A FRANCHISE OR YOU'RE DEVELOPING THIS POTENTIALLY? I'M DEVELOPING THIS ONE.
IT AS A FRANCHISE? YEAH, I'M DEVELOPING THIS ONE.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANNA SAY IF THIS DOES PASS, I THINK MY SON AND I WANNA BE YOUR FIRST CUSTOMERS
UH, WE WERE VERY EXCITED WHEN WE SAW THIS COMING UP.
UM, JUST 'CAUSE WE LOVE OUR CAVES AND CLAW MACHINES.
AND WHEN DURING COVID, MY SON AND I GOT VERY MUCH INTO PLAYING CLAW VIRTUALLY.
AND WERE YOU PLAYING CLAW OVER THE PHONE? OH,
SO WE UNDERSTAND A BIT ABOUT OKAY, THE CULTURE AND, AND THE STUFF.
AND JUST FOR THOSE OF YOU NOT AWARE, YOU COULD PLAY CLAW MACHINES VIRTUALLY OVER THE PHONE AND IF YOU WIN IT, SO I COULD BE PLAYING IN JAPAN AND IF I WIN IT, THEY WILL SHIP YOU THE PRIZE.
UM, SO, AND IT'S NOT JUST THERE, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S KOREA IN OTHER PARTS OF THE WORLD WHERE THIS IS, UH, QUITE POPULAR.
UM, AND UH, A LOT OF TIMES THEY'RE, THEY'RE A LOT OF THE PRIZES AND KIND OF THE DRIVE IS AROUND THEMES OR RELEASES OF ANIME AND CERTAIN SPECIAL RELEASE PLUSES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
IT'S A WHOLE, THERE'S A WHOLE CULTURE AROUND, UH, CLAW.
AND, UM, SO MY QUESTION TO YOU WAS, UH, WHETHER THERE GONNA BE ANY LIKE VIRTUAL PLANE INVOLVED OR IS IT PURELY JUST ANY WHAT SIR? ANY VIRTUAL PLANE INVOLVED? NO, SIR.
IT'S, IT'S COMPLETELY, I'M NOT THAT TECH SAVVY YET.
THAT'S THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD.
BUT IF THIS DOES PASS AND WHEN YOU GET READY TO OPEN, I LOOK FORWARD TO YES SIR.
AND, AND, UH, YEAH, THANK MR CHU.
WELL, UH, YOU SAID THAT THERE WILL BE, UH, I SOME OTHER GAME IN IT OR JUST THE CLAW MACHINE? IT'S JUST CLAW MACHINE.
WE DO HAVE FOUR ROPE CUTTING MACHINE AS WELL, BUT IT'S JUST ALL PRIZE MACHINES.
SO JUST TO UNDERSTAND, NOTHING TO DO WITH APPROVING OR NOT NOT APPROVING THAT VOTING HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MY QUESTION.
UH, SO YOUR YOUR LIKE IF CASE, THEY WIN BUNCH OF SMALLER MM-HMM.
AND THEY CAN EXCHANGE IT FOR THE BIGGER ONE.
AND UH, AGAIN, WE CANNOT CONTROL YOUR PRICING, BUT JUST ASKING YOU SAY IT'S A DOLLAR MM-HMM.
ALL THE MACHINE IS GONNA BE SAME PRICE.
PUTTING BIGGER PRICE ON THE BIGGER SPLASHY.
UH, 'CAUSE THESE ARE VERY ADDICTIVE.
UH, AND UH, AND PUBLICLY I HAVE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, IF I SAID SOME SOMETHING, IT WOULD BE PUBLIC.
I DID GO AND PLAY AND IT'S NOT REALLY, I DID NOT WIN ANYTHING.
AND THAT ONE, HAVE YOU BEEN TO THE ROUND ONE? YES, I HAVE.
I I SPENT, YEAH, I DON'T WIN NOTHING.
SO OUR MACHINES ARE SET ON EASY FOR PEOPLE TO WIN.
UM, SO WE, WE ARE MORE OF, YOU'RE, YOU'RE GONNA WIN A WHOLE BUNCH OF SMALL TOYS TO WIN THE BIG TOY AT ROUND ONE, YOU'RE GONNA SPEND A LOT OF MONEY TO WIN ONE TOY.
THAT, THAT'S, IT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT CONCEPT OF THE USUAL CLAW SHOP THAT YOU SEE INSIDE OF WALMART OR SOMETHING.
THEY'RE MARKING UP THAT THING YOU HAVE TO PLAY 20 TIMES BEFORE YOU WIN ONE TIME.
OURS IS THREE, FOUR OR FIVE TIMES.
AND YOU'RE GONNA BE UNTIL NINE O'CLOCK BECAUSE IT IS THE TIME.
I, I'M NOT SURE, I THINK WE HAD SET UP NINE O'CLOCK ON THE WEEKDAYS AND I THINK WE ASKED FOR 10 OR 11 ON THE WEEKENDS.
I DO OWN A RESTAURANT LIKE FIVE DOORS DOWN.
UM, IT'S CALLED BB Q CHICKEN AS WELL.
UM, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU GUYS KNOW, BUT LIKE LAST CHRISTMAS I GAVE AWAY $20,000 WORTH OF TOYS TO LIKE UNDERPRIVILEGED FAMILY.
SO LIKE GAVE AWAY 10,000 TO CITY RICHARDSON, 10,000 IN CITY OF ARLINGTON AND PEOPLE JUST LINED UP THERE.
SO THIS IS JUST ANOTHER THING THAT I'M JUST DOING FOR THE COMMUNITY.
'CAUSE I WAS BORN AND RAISED HERE.
I I DID NOT REMEMBER YOU, BUT I WAS THERE.
I SPOKE WITH YOU, WE TOOK PICTURES.
THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT AND APPRECIATE, BUT YOU DO UNDERSTAND THAT,
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YOU KNOW, YOUR FOOD EAT ALSO VERY ADDICTIVE.BUT IT'S, IT'S A GOOD WAY BECAUSE I EAT QUITE A BIT
UH, BUT THIS ONE IS, IS VERY ADDICTIVE.
UH, BUT THE TIME, THAT'S WHY THE TIME IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THE KIDS GONNA BE SPENDING TIME IN YOUR PLACE, UH, MORE SO IF YOU KEEP IT OPEN LATE, SOME PARENTS MIGHT NOT BE HAPPY, UH, EVEN THOUGH WE KNOW THAT IT WOULD BE A SAFE PLACE.
SO NINE O'CLOCK AND, UH, SO ONCE THEY REQUEST SOMETHING CERTAIN TIME, SO THAT WOULD BE, I GUESS THEY'RE ON THE AMBER ARE THE, I'M SORRY.
I THINK THE QUESTION IS, ARE THE, UH, IS THE SUP TIED TO SPECIFIC OPERATING HOURS? IT IS, YEAH.
THAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE, UM, THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION AT THIS POINT.
IT'S THE HOURS THAT WERE PROPOSED.
SO AS I SAID, THE NOON TO NINE, MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY AND THEN NOON TO 11:00 PM FRIDAY, SATURDAY, SUNDAY.
SO THAT WOULD BE THE, UM, THE BROADEST EXTENT THE HOURS COULD OPERATE.
THEY CAN OPERATE SHORTER HOURS IF THEY WANT TO, BUT THAT WOULD BE THE, THE, UM, THE LATEST AND THE EARLIEST THAT THEY COULD OPEN.
I THINK, I THINK YOU'RE BRINGING TRAFFIC INTO THAT SHOPPING CENTER.
LIKE THE MAYOR, WORST DAY EVER AS A PARENT WAS TRYING TO USE ONE OF THESE CLAW MACHINES AND WIN SOMETHING FOR MY DAUGHTERS AND I FAILED MISERABLY.
SO YES, RIGHT BEHIND COUNCILMAN BARRY.
I'M GONNA BE RIGHT BEHIND, SO IF THE MACHINES ARE NOT SET TO EASY, I'M GONNA FIND YOU BECAUSE I GOTTA TRY AND MAKE UP.
THEY WERE ABOUT, I DON'T KNOW, THEY WERE ABOUT 10 YEARS OLD AT THE TIME.
SO I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA COME IN AND I'M GONNA WIN SOMETHING SO I CAN MAKE IT UP TO MY DAUGHTERS.
UM, ONE QUESTION IS YES, IS, UH, I, I UNDERSTAND NOW THAT YOU HAVE THE RESTAURANT DOWN THE, DOWN DOWN THE, THE, THE DOWN FROM THIS, ARE YOU GOING TO, WILL THERE BE ANYTHING ELSE IN THERE? WILL BE, I MEAN I KNOW YOU SAID YOU'RE GONNA HAVE CLAW MACHINES, BUT ARE THERE GONNA BE LIKE SOFT DRINK MACHINES OR ANYTHING ELSE IN THERE? OR ANYTHING AT ALL THAT THAT WILL BE IN THERE? WE ARE ACTUALLY GONNA PUT ONE FRIDGE IN THERE TO SELL SODAS.
WAS NO FOOD, NOTHING LIKE THAT.
UH, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING LIKE ONE MACHINE WITH LIKE ASIAN BAG OF CHIPS OR SOMETHING, SO THAT, YEAH.
BUT AS FAR AS LIKE, LIKE US SELLING FOOD AND NO.
YOU'RE GONNA STAY OPEN UNTIL 11 O'CLOCK.
'CAUSE I THINK, UM, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME COMMENTS ABOUT KIDS, UH, WHILE KIDS WILL VISIT.
THIS IS A, UH, I SEE A LOT OF HIGH SCHOOL AND COLLEGE AGE AND OLDER HANGING OUT.
THIS ISN'T OR 40 SOMETHING OR 43.
THIS ISN'T AS MUCH AS A, THERE WILL BE STUFF, THERE ARE KIDS, BUT IT'S, IT'S MUCH OLDER CROWD IT SOUNDS LIKE.
RIGHT? AM I WRONG ON THAT? YEAH.
IT'S UM, I MEAN FOR YOU WANTED KIND OF SPEAK TO THAT PERSON.
I MEAN, EVERYBODY LOVES TO WIN PRIZE FOR THEIR LOVED ONES, SO THERE IS NO SET AGE LIMIT.
'CAUSE MY 4-YEAR-OLD SON PLAYS THAT MACHINE.
I HAVE, I PUT SOME IN THE MACHINES AT MY RESTAURANT AND PEOPLE ARE LIKE, THIS IS JUST TOO EASY.
AND THEY'RE NOT USED TO IT, BUT YEAH.
THE ONLY THI QUESTION I HAVE IS IF I GO IN AND I GET ME TWO OR THREE, COULD I TRADE 'EM IN FOR CHICKEN, CHICKEN, TWO SEPARATE ENTITIES?
YOU WANNA TREAT IT FOR A CHICKEN? PLUS I REALLY LIKE YOUR CHICKEN THOUGH.
ALRIGHT, WELL WE HAVE NO ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.
WE ASK YOU TO TAKE A SEAT AT THIS TIME.
UM, COUNSEL, COULD I ENTERTAIN A MOTION? NO.
I WANNA OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING PLEASE.
I WANNA OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING PLEASE.
ONE SPEAKER, MAYOR DICK FERRELL.
I'M WAITING TWO HOURS FOR ABOUT TWO MINUTES HERE.
PLEASE TAKE AS MUCH TIME AS YOU NEED, SIR.
WELL, FIRST OF ALL, HE'S A GREAT ENTREPRENEUR AND WE'RE LUCKY TO HAVE HIM IN OUR CENTER.
UH, DANNY, HOW LATE IS THE KITCHEN OPEN TONIGHT? I WAS GOING TO GET HONEY GARLIC AND NOW I I MAY HAVE TO GRAB A HAMBURGER SOMEPLACE.
OH REALLY? ALRIGHT, I'LL BE THERE.
UM, YOUR CHICKEN IS NOT COOKED UNTIL YOU ORDER IT.
UM, THIS, THIS THING WILL WORK VERY WELL WITH QUIGLEY'S CLAY HOUSE.
IT'S DONE EXTREMELY WELL AND IT'S, AND IT'S A, A USE, I KNOW YOU'RE GONNA VOTE.
BUT I'M, I'M EXCITED ABOUT IT BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE, UH, MORE FAMILY ACTIVITIES THERE.
AND A LOT OF THE KIDS, QUIGLEY'S HAS DONE THAT FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW.
AND ON SATURDAY NIGHTS, I'M AMAZED NOW THAT THE PEOPLE WITH YOUNG,
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UH, CHILDREN STREAMING INTO IT, THEY'RE DOING DATE NIGHTS, FAMILY NIGHTS, ALL KIND OF, UH, PRIVATE PARTIES AND, AND DANNY'S DEAL WILL BE SIMILAR TO THAT.WE ALSO JUST SIGNED A LEASE WITH SOMETHING, UH, AN ICE CREAM STORE IN THE OLD MC CUTTERS SPACE.
THERE WERE SOME STIPULATIONS ON THIS AS WRITTEN.
ONE OF THEM WAS, HAD THE WORD EIGHT IN IT.
THE IN, IN THE, UH, IN THE, OR IN THE SPECIAL PERMIT THAT'S BEEN GRANTED, THERE WAS ONE RESTRICTION AND IT USED THE WORD EIGHT EIGHT LINERS.
WHAT IS THAT? UH, THEY'RE GAMBLING MACHINES.
AND THEN, UM, THERE WAS ONE OTHER, UH, I DID, I I COULDN'T FIND THAT.
WHAT, CAN YOU READ THOSE TO ME? SOMEBODY? YEAH, I HAVE THE, I HAVE THE CONDITIONS HERE.
UM, SO THE CONDITIONS ARE, UH, SO NO OTHER PERSON, COMPANY, BUSINESS OR LEGAL ENTITY MAY OPERATE ENEMIES AND ARCADE ON THE PROPERTY OTHER THAN WHO? AND DAWN.
AND THAT'S, UM, THAT'S A TYPICAL CONDITION.
THAT SPECIAL PERMITS ARE TIED TO, UM, THE APPLICANT.
THE NEXT CONDITION A BUILDING PERMIT, SHALL BE OBTAINED IN ACCORDANCE WITH, UM, WITH THE CODE.
THAT'S A, A STANDARD CONDITION.
UM, THE USE OF THE PROPERTY FOR AN AMUSEMENT ARCADE SHALL REQUIRE PARKING AT A RATIO OF ONE PARKING SPACE PER 333 SQUARE FEET.
AND THAT WAS, UM, THERE'S NO PARKING CHANGES, UM, REQUIRED THE SITE THAT AT THE TIME, UM, THE HOURS OF OPERATION, AS I MENTIONED, 12 TO NINE, MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY, AND THEN 12 TO 11 ON FRIDAY, SATURDAY, SUNDAY.
AND THEN THE LAST CONDITION IS THE USE OF EIGHT LINERS OR SIMILAR GAMING DEVICES SHALL BE PROHIBITED.
AND AS, UM, AS CITY MANAGER MENTIONED THAT IS, THOSE ARE SPECIFICALLY, UH, GAMBLING OR GAMING MACHINES.
UH, DID YOU, DID YOU SAY THAT THERE, THERE CAN THE, THAT THE, THERE'S A RESTRICTION NOW THAT THAT CAN BE THE ONLY ARCADE IN THE, IN THE PROPERTY? NO, THAT CONDITION IS THAT, THAT, UM, THAT THE BUSINESS IS TIED TO THAT ARCADE.
SO LIKE FOR THAT, UH, SO THAT IF THE, IF THIS, UM, ZANIA SPACE, UH, VACATES AND LEAVES, THEN ANY NEW USE WOULD, LIKE A NEW ARCADE WOULD REQUIRE IT.
BUT IT DOESN'T LIMIT THE, ANY OTHER ARCADES COULD, COULD BE REQUESTED IN ANY OTHER SPACE WHILE HE'S OPENING THE SECOND TIME.
OKAY, I'LL BE LOOKING FOR MR. HUTCHEN RIDER.
IF I CAN MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
GOT A MOTION MR. SHAM? I SECOND IT.
ALL IN FAVOR? PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, MR. HUTCHEN.
RIDER? WELL, WITH, WITH RISK OF FURTHER EMBARRASSMENT IN FRONT OF MY DAUGHTERS, I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE ZONING FILE 24 DASH 20 AS REQUESTED.
GOT A MOTION? MR. I'LL SECOND THAT.
AND I'VE GOT A MOTION TO SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR? SHOW OF HANDS, PLEASE.
[10. CONSENT AGENDA]
NUMBER 10, CONSENT AGENDA.AND BEFORE WE GET INTO A VOTE ON THAT, I'D LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE SOMEONE IN THE AUDIENCE, UH, MS. JAN RUG WITH ATMOS.
WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE AND SUPPORTING IT.
IN ITEM C ON OUR CONSENT AGENDA IS THE NEGOTIATED SETTLEMENTS THAT WE WOULD BE VOTING ON AS WELL.
SO ANYWAY, MR. RIGHT AND WRITER MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PUBLISHED.
CONSENT AGENDA PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[11. REPORT ON ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST]
US TO ITEM NUMBER 11, REPORT ON ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST.AND BEFORE, I'M GONNA GO FIRST TONIGHT, KIDDOS.
I AM EXTREMELY PROUD OF THIS PARTICULAR COUNCIL AND I WOULD LIKE TO DISPLAY THIS TROPHY PROUDLY.
THIS PARTICULAR COUNCIL RECENTLY WAS AWARDED BY COG, THE COMMUNITY INCLUSION ENGAGEMENT COMMISSION AS FAR AS REGIONALLY AS THE COUNCIL WHO HAD A VISION AND WAS ABLE TO PUT TOGETHER A PLAN TO REPRESENT AND DO THINGS WITHIN OUR CITY THAT, UM, WE THINK ARE MAKING A HUGE DIFFERENCE.
AND THAT I WAS REALLY HONORED BECAUSE RASH RASHMI, I BELIEVE THAT'S HOW WE SAY HER NAME, OUR CHAIRMAN OF THE, UM, COMMISSION WAS THERE TO HELP US RECEIVE THIS AND WE TOOK PICTURES
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WITH THEM.AND I WANT TO THANK THIS ENTIRE COUNCIL FOR YOUR VISION, YOUR HARD WORK, AND ESPECIALLY THAT COMMISSION.
ALRIGHT, MR. HUTCH? NO, MR. CORCORAN.
UH, THERE'S PLENTY OF ACTIVITY LAST WEEK TO GO AROUND.
WE, UM, LAST WEEK WAS REALLY KINDA A REGIONAL WEEK FOR US TOO.
AND WE, WE AS A COUNCIL, UM, VARIOUS MEMBERS ATTENDED A LOT OF REGIONAL EVENTS AND ONE OF THOSE WAS THE, UH, TRANSIT COALITION OF NORTH TEXAS'S STATE OF TRANSIT, UM, PRESENTATION AND LUNCHEON AND JUST KIND OF FUNNY ENOUGH, YOU KNOW, TO, UH, TO EXPAND AND MAKE TRANSIT BETTER IN NORTH TEXAS.
SO FUNNY ENOUGH THAT, THAT, UH,
SO IT WAS A GREAT LUNCH AND, UM, AND I WAS, I LEARNED A LOT.
RIGHT AFTER WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO AND RECEIVE THAT AWARD THAT NIGHT, WE WENT DOWN TO, UH, TO THE TEXAS, UH, TEXAS MUNICIPAL LEAGUE REGION 13 MEETING, ANNUAL MEETING THAT WAS DOWN IN LANCASTER.
UM, THE GUEST SPEAKER WAS FORMER MAYOR BETSY PRICE.
UM, THOUGHT THE MEETING WAS EXTREMELY WELL DONE AND APPRECIATED THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO AND REPRESENT OUR AFFAIRS CITY FOR THAT.
UM, AND THEN ON SATURDAY, OH MY GOODNESS, SATURDAY WAS INCREDIBLY BUSY.
UM, WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, TAKE PART IN, UM, TWO, UM, UH, RIBBON CUTTINGS FOR TWO DIFFERENT, UM, PARKS, WOODS PARK, AND THE WOODLAND PARKS PLAYGROUND.
AND THEN WE ALL WENT TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY FAIR.
UM, AND WITH OUR NEW RETRE, THE TOWN, UM, HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAND TREES OUT AND TAKE PICTURES, UM, WITH OUR COMMUNITY.
AND THEN THAT EVENING, I WANNA GIVE A HUGE SHOUT OUT TO ALI HAMLIN FOR, UM, JUST AN ABSOLUTE FANTASTIC PERFORMANCE OF THE BRIT PACK.
UM, THE, UM, THE, THE PLACE WAS A ROCKING, SO TO SPEAK.
IN FACT, I THINK THERE WERE A FEW PEOPLE,
UM, THERE WERE TAMBOURINES FLYING EVERYWHERE.
IF YOU WERE THERE, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
IF YOU WEREN'T THERE, YOU HAVE NO CLUE.
A LOT OF PEOPLE HAD A LOT OF FUN THAT NIGHT.
SO, UM, JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU, UM, TO ALLIE.
I THINK SHE'S GOT AN INCREDIBLE, UM, EISMAN CENTER PRESENTS SET UP THIS YEAR.
WHAT A WAY TO SHOOT IT OFF WITH THE BRIT PACK.
UH, I WANT TO DITTO EVERYTHING THAT, UH, COUNCILMAN HUTCH WRITER, UH, MENTIONED.
'CAUSE IT WAS A BUSY WEEK AND BUSY WEEKEND.
UH, JUST WANTED TO ADD ONE MORE THING TO THAT, UH, AGENDA.
UH, WE WERE AT, UH, DON MAGNER AND OUR MAYOR, UH, BOB DUB ATTENDED THE TECH TITANS, UH, SATURDAY NIGHT, WHICH WAS VERY NICE.
THEY DID AN EXTREMELY GOOD JOB.
THEY ACTUALLY, UM, ADDRESSED THE CONTRIBUTION OF PAUL BECK, UM, BETTY BECK'S HUSBAND, AND, UH, HIS CONTRIBUTION TO TOWARD, UH, TECHNOLOGY HERE IN RICHARDSON.
SO THAT WAS, UH, VERY APPRECIATIVE.
AND ALSO, UM, THE BRIT PACK, I HAVE TO SAY, WAS INCREDIBLE.
UM, THAT AFTER SATURDAY AFTERNOON WE HAD THE ASIAN GALA, UH, DOWN IN, UH, CHINATOWN.
SO, UM, AND I'LL LEAVE SOME ON THE TABLE FOR OTHERS, BUT THAT WAS JUST A FEW EXTRA THAT I'M ADDING TO THE PLAY.
SATURDAY, I THINK I COUNTED EIGHT STOPS ON SATURDAY.
ONE OF THE THINGS I, I GOT TO BE A PART OF WAS THE SHAMROCKS AND SHENANIGANS BENEFITING THE BAT DOOR.
PAT DOHERTY CONTINUING EDUCATION FUND AT THE NETWORK COMMUNITY MINISTRIES.
SO THIS WAS A FUNDRAISER, UM, FOR A SCHOLARSHIP AND I, AND I LEARNED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE WORK OF PAT DOHERTY AND, UH, I HOPE I'M SAYING THAT CORRECTLY.
I, I'VE BEEN PRACTICING THAT ONE AND I STRUGGLE WITH THAT NAME FOR SOME REASON.
UM, I, I LEARNED ABOUT IT, UH, ABOUT HER WORK AND JUST THE VOLUNTEERISM AND JUST THE, THE, UH, WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO, UM, TO HONOR HER WORK.
AND, UH, I, I WAS HONORED TO BE A GUEST THERE FOR A SHORT WHILE BEFORE I, I JUMPED INTO SOMETHING ELSE.
BUT I WILL SAY IT WAS, UM, THEY HAD A TABLE FULL OF IRISH SODA BREAD IS, I BELIEVE WHAT IT'S CALLED, NEVER HAD IT BEFORE.
IT'S AMAZING WHY IN THE WORLD HOW I'VE GONE 43 YEARS WITHOUT EVER HAVING TRIED THIS.
I DON'T KNOW HOW, BUT, UM, I'M GONNA GO HAVE SOME RIGHT NOW SO I STILL HAVE SOME LEFT.
AND, UH, GLAD TO SEE THE COMMUNITY COME OUT.
A LOT OF SMALL BUSINESSES IN OUR COMMUNITY SUPPORTING THAT FUND AND IT WAS GOOD TO, GOOD TO SEE THAT FOR GOOD CAUSE.
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COMMENTS? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, I'D LOOK FOR A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING.9:00 PM OFFICIALLY, WE'RE ADJOURNED.