* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:03] UH, I DON'T NEED TO CALL IT TO ORDER, DO I? NO. JUST SEE. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. IT IS 6:00 PM WE'RE GONNA CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. [COMMUNITY REVITALIZATION AWARDS PRESENTATION] FIRST ON OUR AGENDA IS THE COMMUNITY REVITALIZATION AWARDS PRESENTATION. MR. MAGNER. THANK YOU, MAYOR. MAYOR, COUNCIL. UH, WE ARE SO EXCITED TODAY TO HAVE OUR GUEST WITH US, UH, THE RECIPIENTS OF THIS YEAR'S COMMUNITY REVITALIZATION AWARDS. UM, THIS IS A REALLY SPECIAL PROGRAM, UH, FAIRLY UNIQUE TO THE CITY OF RICHARDSON FOR DECADES NOW, AS WE BEGIN TO SEE THE GREENFIELD IN OUR COMMUNITY VANISH. UH, WE KNEW PRIORITIZING, REDEVELOPMENT AND REVITALIZATION, UH, WAS IMPORTANT AND WOULD BE CRITICAL TO THE CONTINUED, UH, SUCCESS OF OUR CITY. UM, THESE ARE DIFFICULT PROJECTS. THEY OFTEN REQUIRE, UM, UH, LAND ASSEMBLY AND HIGHER THAN USUAL LAND, UH, ACQUISITION COST, UH, DEMOLITION AND ENVIRONMENTAL. AND WHETHER YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL, IT TAKES A REAL COMMITMENT BY THE FOLKS THAT ARE HERE TONIGHT, UH, TO SEE THESE PROJECTS THROUGH. AND SO WE'RE EXCITED TO RECOGNIZE THEM AND TO CELEBRATE THEIR, UH, EFFORTS. UM, AMBER, UH, UH, POLAND IS GOING TO LEAD THIS, UM, PRESENTATION TONIGHT. UM, MAYOR, THE WAY IT'S GONNA WORK IS I, UM, UM, AFTER AMBER DOES SOME INTRODUCTORY REMARKS, UH, OUR THREE SELECTION COMMITTEE MEMBERS WILL JOIN HER. THEY WILL, UH, INTRODUCE, UH, EACH OF THE AWARD RECIPIENTS, UH, THAT AWARD RECIPIENT WILL COME UP, UH, HAVE THEIR PICTURE TAKEN WITH THE COUNCIL ON THE REMAINDER OF THE SELECTION COMMITTEE. AND THEN AFTER ALL 12 OR RECOGNIZED WILL ASK EVERYBODY TO COME BACK UP AND WE'LL TAKE ONE BIG GROUP PHOTO. AND SO, UH, AMBER, I KNOW YOU'VE WORKED REALLY HARD ON THIS, AND WE APPRECIATE ALL YOUR EFFORTS, AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU TO GET US STARTED. GREAT. YES. YEAH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAGNER. UM, AND GOOD EVENING, MAYOR DUBY AND COUNSEL, UH, AND, AND AS WELL AS THE, UH, FOLKS THAT I'VE BEEN CORRESPONDING WITH, UM, OVER THE PAST LITTLE WHILE. AND, UM, ALSO THE GUESTS THAT ARE HERE FOR THE, THIS EVENING, UM, FOR THE PRESENTATION OF THE 2024 COMMUNITY REVITALIZATION AWARDS. SO THE AWARD PROGRAM, UM, IT IS A, OH, HERE WE GO. UM, IT RECOGNIZES PROPERTIES THAT HAVE STOOD OUT IN THE PRIOR YEAR, UM, AS EXAMPLES OF QUALITY AND GENUINE REINVESTMENT IN RICHARDSON AND ITS NEIGHBORHOODS, AND TO HONOR THOSE THAT HAVE PUT IN A LOT OF WORK TO IMPLEMENT PROJECTS THAT DISPLAY THE BEST IN MATERIALS RENOVATION AND DESIGN. UM, SO AS A NOTICE, DOES, UM, ENFORCE THE CITY COUNCIL GOAL TO HAVE RESIDENTS AND STAKEHOLDERS CHOOSE RICHARDSON AS THE BEST PLACE TO LOCATE, CONTRIBUTE, AND ENGAGE. AND THESE ARE DEFINITELY FOLKS THAT HAVE ALL, UM, CHOSE RICHARDSON AND HAVE CONTRIBUTED, UM, THE STRATEGIES THAT WE'RE REINFORCING OUR TO CREATE A POSITIVE RETURN ON CITY RESIDENT AND STAKEHOLDER INVESTMENTS IN THE CITY. UM, AS WELL AS CONTINUING OPPORTUNITIES TO ATTRACT AND RETAIN RESIDENTS AS THESE PROJECTS ARE PICKED BECAUSE OF THEIR, UM, ABILITY TO CREATE REVITALIZATION AND, AND, UM, IMPACT THEIR BROADER NEIGHBORHOOD AND AS WELL AS PROMOTING AVENUES FOR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND INPUT. SO, AS WE MENTIONED, THE PROGRAM RECOGNIZES OWNERS AND BUSINESSES. THEY HAVE ENHANCED THE COMMUNITY BY MAKING SIGNIFICANT EXTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PROPERTY. WE ALL LOVE A GREAT, UH, KITCHEN RENOVATION, BUT AS FAR AS WHAT YOU CAN SEE FROM THE STREET, WE WANT THINGS THAT, UM, AS YOU TRAVEL IN A NEIGHBORHOOD, TRAVEL ON OUR, THROUGH OUR CITY, THAT IT MAKES AN IMPACT, UM, TO, UH, THE GENERAL, THE GENERAL NEIGHBORHOOD. IN A BROADER SENSE, IT WAS LAUNCHED IN 1994 BY THE CITY COUNCIL, AND IT'S ADMINISTERED BY THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT. UM, IN ITS HISTORY, WE HAVE RECOGNIZED 337 PROPERTIES, AND THAT IS RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL INSTITUTIONAL. AND TONIGHT, IN THE 30TH YEAR, WE ARE RECOGNIZING 12 ADDITIONAL RECIPIENTS. SO THANK YOU TO THE COUNCIL FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT OF THIS PROGRAM. UM, THIS EVENING IS PO IS, UM, DUE TO VOLUNTEER EFFORTS BY AN AWARD SELECTION COMMITTEE. UH, SO THE COMMITTEE THIS YEAR INCLUDED CURTIS HISTORIAN AND KEN HUTCHIN, RIDER FROM THE CITY COUNCIL, UM, SABRINA ACK FROM OUR CITY PLAN COMMISSION, AND GINGER, TONY WITH THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. UNFORTUNATELY, GINGER ISN'T ABLE TO JOIN US THIS EVENING. UM, BUT, UH, WE DO HAVE THE REST OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS HERE. SO IF I CAN, UM, INVITE THE, UH, OUR AWARD SELECTION COMMITTEE UP, UM, THEN WE, UM, TO STEP FORWARD. SO IF WE, I HAVE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER KEN HUTCHEN, WRITER, COUNCIL MEMBER TORIAN, AND CITY PLAN COMMISSIONER SABRINA VACK COME UP. AND THEN, UM, IF WE DIG INTO THE RECOGNIZING INDIVIDUAL AWARDS, IF I CAN HAVE, UH, MAYOR AND THE REST OF THE COUNCIL, IF YOU WANNA COME UP ONTO THIS SIDE HERE, THEN AS WE, UM, DO EACH PROJECT, THEN WE'LL, YOU'LL BE READY FOR THE PHOTOS. YEP. SO COME AROUND, AROUND THIS SIDE. ALL RIGHT. AND SO, WE'LL, UM, [00:05:01] BEGIN WITH, UM, WITH CITY COUNCIL MEMBER CURTIS, CURTIS HISTORIAN TO START OUR AWARD PRESENTATION. THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH. HERE WE GO. YEAH. OKAY. GOOD EVENING, AND THANK YOU FOR COMING HERE TONIGHT. APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. OUR, UH, FIRST AWARD THIS EVENING IS FOR MIMOSA PLACE. IT IS A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OF 18 NEW RESIDENTS BUILT ON A VACANT AREA ADJACENT TO THE JJ PIERCE AND RESERVATION RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS AND PAVILION EAST SHOPPING CENTER. IT HAS THE BENEFITS OF BEING NEXT TO AN ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOOD, PRIVACY OF A CUL-DE-SAC, AND EASY ACCESS TO GROCERY STORES AND RETAIL. WE TYPICALLY RECOGNIZE INDIVIDUAL HOMES AND PROPERTIES, BUT HAVE HAD A HANDFUL OF OPPORTUNITIES TO AWARD A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. THE DEVELOPER AND BUILDER SHA CUSTOM BUILDERS AND DEVELOPERS, FORMERLY KNOWN AS SHADDOCK CALDWELL, STARTED THE ZONING PROCESS IN 2018 ON THIS PROJECT. CUSTOM HOMES HAVE BEEN CONSTRUCTED OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS. WITH THE LAST HOUSE COMPLETING THE DEVELOPMENT IN 2024. THE RESIDENCES INCLUDE CRAFTSMEN, FARMHOUSE, TRADITIONAL STYLES. THE COMMITTEE LIKED THE USE OF MATERIALS AND THE VARIETY OF THESE TYPES OF HOMES. PLEASE WELCOME OWNER TODD SHADDOCK AND HIS TEAM SHADDOCK CUSTOM BUILDERS AND DEVELOPERS. JUST COMMITTEE, HOLD THAT SPOT AND LOOK HERE AND SMILE. AND SMILE. GOOD SMILE. TRY NOT TO BLINK. CATCH THAT. PERFECT. THANKS. SO OUR SECOND AWARD GOES TO THE FINNEGAN RESIDENCE. THE HOME WAS ORIGINALLY BUILT IN 1955. THE FINNEGAN'S MADE AN EXTENSIVE INVESTMENT AND COMPLETED A GARAGE EDITION OFF THE ALLEY IN THE BACK OF THE HOME THAT ALLOWED FOR THE ENCLOSURE OF THE STREET FACING GARAGE AND REMOVAL OF THE FRONT DRIVEWAY. THE PROPERTY STILL BLENDS INTO THE HIGHLAND TERRACE NEIGHBORHOOD AND EXISTING MATURE TREES WERE MAINTAINED, BUT THE SPACE AND THE EXTERIOR HAD BEEN UPDATED WITH NEW PAINT, NEW WINDOWS, A RENOVATED ENTRY, NEW FENCE AND LANDSCAPING. THE COMMITTEE FELT THAT THE IMPROVEMENTS REFLECTED THE SPIRIT OF REVITALIZATION, BLENDING THE ORIGINAL HOME WITH THE NEW ADDITIONS, AND PROVIDING A MODEL FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UNFORTUNATELY, THE FINNEGANS WERE NOT ABLE TO JOIN US TONIGHT, BUT IT IS AN HONOR TO RECOGNIZE THEIR PROJECT AND IMPACT. OKAY, THANK YOU. NEXT, WE ARE RECOGNIZING THE PAS RESIDENCE ON SKYVIEW DRIVE IN CANYON CREEK NEIGHBORHOOD. THE ORIGINAL HOME WAS D DEMOLISHED AND A NEW HOME CONSTRUCTED. THE NEW TRADITIONAL STYLE RESIDENCE IS TWO STORY WITH MASONRY BOARD AND BATTEN AND TIMBER GABLES. THE SELECTION COMMITTEE APPRECIATED THE UNIQUE DESIGN COLORS, MIX OF MATERIALS AND ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS LIKE WINDOW CANOPIES, DORMERS, AND SEAM ROOF. PLEASE WELCOME KATHY ZI AND HER CONTRACTORS FROM FAIRVIEW CUSTOM HOMES, JOE SCOLARO AND DREW S SCALERO. [00:10:28] AND ALRIGHT. AND LOOK RIGHT HERE AND SMILE. KEEP SMILING AND SMILING. KEEP SMILING. YOU JUST GONNA STAY OVER THERE? YEAH. THIS IS THE PRISTINE HEALTHCARE SOLUTIONS COMMERCIAL REDEVELOPMENT. IN 1995, THE PROPERTY AT 1951 NORTH JUPITER ROAD WAS DEVELOPED AS A 1400 SQUARE FOOT CAR WASH FACILITY. THE PATELS PURCHASED THE PROPERTY TWO YEARS AGO AND COMPLETED A REMODEL AND ADDITION OF THE CAR WASH STRUCTURE TO CONVERT THE BUILDING TO A 4,600 SQUARE FOOT OFFICE. PRISTINE, PRISTINE HEALTHCARE SOLUTIONS AND HOSPICE SERVICES OPERATES FROM THIS OFFICE SPACE. THE BUILDING NOW HAS A MODERN STYLE WITH STUCCO, WOOD PANELS AND LARGE WINDOWS ON THE FACADE. THE SELECTION COMMITTEE COMMENDED THE WAY THE OWNERS USE THE EXISTING SITE. IT IS NOT A TEAR DOWN, BUT A RENOVATION THAT WILL BE CATTLE CADILLAC REVITALIZATION TO THE AREA ON JUPITER ROAD AND CAMPBELL ROAD. PLEASE WELCOME THE PATELS, VJ AND VA AS THEIR AND THEIR FAMILY AND THEIR TEAM, INCLUDING THE CONTRACTOR, DREW PATEL, ALL SO WE'LL HAVE THE FAMILY ON MAYOR'S RIGHT, AND OUR CONTRACTORS ON MAYOR'S LEFT. PLEASE HOLD THAT SPOT. ALRIGHT. TRY NOT TO STEP ON EACH OTHER'S TOES. YOU'RE DOWN YOUR RIGHT. LOOKING FORWARD. LOOKING FORWARD. HOLD THAT SPOT. SMILE AND THANK YOU, CURTIS. SABRINA. OH, I WAS GOING INTRODUCE. OH, IT'S OKAY. . HI, I AM SABRINA BUNAC ON THE, UH, COMMITTEE. NEXT WE HAVE ROGERS RESIDENCE AT 500 BIRCH LANE. THIS HOME WAS ORIGINALLY CONSTRUCTED IN 1975. THE ROGERS MOVED TO THE PROPERTY AND HAVE BEEN WORKING ON EXTENSIVE EXTERIOR AND INTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS TO THEIR HOME OVER THE YEARS. THEIR VISION WAS TO TRANSFORM THE DARK BROWN EXTERIOR TO FRESH, COOL COLORS BY STAINING THE BRICK AND ADDING A COMPLIMENTARY NEW ROOF. THE FRONT DOOR AND SIDELIGHTS WERE REPLACED. THIS PROPERTY IS ON A CORNER LOT IN THE RICHLAND PARK NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THE OWNERS HAVE PUT A LOT OF WORK INTO IMPROVING AND MAINTAINING THE LANDSCAPING. NUMEROUS STONE FEATURES WERE ADDED, INCLUDING A FLAGSTONE FRONT WALK AND FRONT PORCH LEDGE, STONE, FLOWER, BOR, UH, BED BORDERS AND SEATING AREAS UNDER THE TREES. LIGHTING WAS ADDED TO ACCENTUATE THE HOME AND TREES AT NIGHT. A HIGHLIGHT WAS THE ROGERS PARKWAY LANDSCAPE ART SUMMER, UH, ART. LAST SUMMER, MACY'S SIDEWALK WINDOWS DISPLAYS ALLEGED STONE BORDER WAS PLACED, A HEDGE ADDED AND AN EXTENSIVE PLANNING OF FLOWER VARIETIES. THE ROGERS WANTED TO ENCOURAGE THEIR NEIGHBORS TO SEE THE PARKWAY AS A CHANCE TO ADD BEAUTY TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND [00:15:01] A DESTINATION FOR NEIGHBORS ON A WALK. WE ARE GLAD TO HAVE WESTON AND NDA ROGERS HERE TONIGHT TO ACCEPT THEIR AWARD. CONGRATULATIONS. YEAH. LOOK FORWARD. BIG SMILES. BIG SMILES. THANK YOU. OUR NEXT AWARD IS FOR THE HEN RESIDENCE. THE ORIGINAL 1964 HOME WAS DEMOLISHED AND A NEW RESIDENCE CONSTRUCTED. THE TWO STORY RESIDENCE IS A TRANSITIONAL STYLE WITH LARGE WINDOWS AND WELCOMING DOORS. THE PROPERTY HAS A LOT OF TREES, INCLUDING ONE THAT PREVIOUSLY CAME THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THE DRIVEWAY. MATURE HEALTHY TREES WERE PROTECTED AND MAINTAINED ON THE PROPERTY, AND ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING ADDED. THE COMMITTEE APPRECIATED THAT THE NEW HOME BALANCED, OPENING UP THE PROPERTY WHILE ADDING AND KEEPING SO MANY TREES. WE ALSO LIKE THE INCLUSION OF NICE LIGHTING AND LANDSCAPING TO COMPLETE THE REDEVELOPMENT. ACCEPTING THE AWARD TONIGHT IS DAVE LOOMIS OF SHADDOCK CUSTOM HOME BUILDERS ON BEHALF OF THE HIN FAMILY. OKAY, HOLD THAT SMILE AND BIG SMILES. BIG SMILES. THANK. AND OUR NEXT RECIPIENT IS TACOS IMAS. YUMMY. THE BUILDING WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1975, UH, BUILDING AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY AND ARAPAHOE ROAD. IT HAS A HISTORY OF AUTO SALES AND WAS GUTTED AND REBUILT INTO RICHARDSON'S THIRD TACOS EM MOSS LOCATION. WE WERE ABLE TO ENJOY THEIR FAMOUS STREET TACOS AND FOOD AT OUR RECEPTION TONIGHT. THE PROPERTY INCLUDES A RED PAINTED FACADE AND PORCH WITH LARGE METAL ARCHITECTURAL SCREENS AND PARAPET. NEW SIGNAGE, STREET SCAPE IMPROVEMENT AND LANDSCAPING WERE ADDED. THERE ARE OUTSIDE SEATING OPPORTUNITIES AND LIGHTING THAT ACTIVATE THE AREA AS AN ENTRANCE INTO THE CITY'S INNOVATION QUARTER. IT TAKES TEAMS OF PEOPLE WORKING TOGETHER TO GET THESE PROJECTS COMPLETED. WE ARE GLAD TO HAVE TACOS. THE MOSS COMMITTED TO THE RICHARDSON COMMUNITY AND THE OWNERSHIP AND MANAGEMENT TEAM OF BERT COMMERCIAL THAT ARE VERY INVOLVED IN THE SUCCESS OF THIS AREA. HERE TO ACCEPT AWARDS ARE TACOS, IMAS CO-OWNERS, MA BUB ZAMAN AND LUIS LOPEZ AND THEIR FAMILIES. AND TODD BERT AND HIS TEAM FROM BERT COMMERCIAL. CONGRATULATIONS. CONGRATULATIONS. OKAY. SO [00:20:04] ALL THAT. ALRIGHT. BIG SMILES, BIG SMILES. NUMBER FOUR. THANK YOU. THE NEXT PROPERTY IS THE BLAND RESIDENCE ON NEWBERRY DRIVE. THE ORIGINAL HOME AT THIS ARAPAHOE HEIGHTS PROPERTY WAS BUILT IN 1959. THE HOME WAS DEMOLISHED IN A TWO STORY NEW TWO STORY HOME COMPLETED THIS PAST YEAR. THE HOUSE HAS A COLONIAL STYLE WITH A BRICK FACADE AND COPPER ROOF ACCENTS. THERE ARE LARGE WINDOWS AND SHUTTER DETAILS, AND THE PROPERTY WAS LANDSCAPED TO ACCENTUATE THE LARGE FRONT PORCH. THE COMMITTEE FOUND THE PROPERTY WAS WELL INTEGRATED IN A WARM AND FRIENDLY TRANSFORMATION TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THE BLANDS WERE NOT ABLE TO JOIN US, BUT PLEASE JOIN ME IN APPLAUDING THE OWNERS, TAYLOR MCG, GABE OF MOSAIC BUILDING COMPANY AND ARCHITECT ERIC LAPOINTE. NOW WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER KEN HUTCHIN RIDER TO PRESENT OUR FINAL AWARDS. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SIR. HONOR. THANK YOU, MA'AM. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. I JUST WANNA TAKE A SECOND AND SAY TO SABRINA AND CURTIS AND GINGER ARE NOT HERE TONIGHT. IT WAS A REAL PLEASURE SERVING WITH Y'ALL ON THIS COMMITTEE AND MAKING THESE SELECTIONS. AND AMBER AND TEAM, YOU DID AN AWESOME JOB. SO THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THE NEXT AWARD IS FOR A NEW TWO STORY CONTEMPORARY TRANSITIONAL HOME IN THE CANYON CREEK NEIGHBORHOOD. IT REPLACES A SINGLE STORY HOME ORIGINALLY CONSTRUCTED IN 1965. THE NEW HOME HAS A WHITE STONE FACADE AND BLACK FRAMED WINDOWS, NEW LANDSCAPING, A CIRCULAR DRIVE, AND DISTINCT WALKWAY. WE'RE AT IT. THE SELECTION COMMITTEE ENJOY THE BEAUTIFUL DESIGN, USE OF LIGHTING AND WELL SCALED LANDSCAPING. PLEASE WELCOME THE HOMEOWNERS, JEREMY AND KIMBERLY AND THEIR CHILDREN. KENNEDY, BRADLEY AND EMILY. THEY'RE JOINED BY THEIR BUILDER, JOE SCALERO AND DREWS SCALERO OF FAIRVIEW CUSTOM HOMES. CONGRATULATIONS. COME ON UP. WE GOT A BIG GROUP OF STUFF. WAIT UNTIL WE GET, KEEP SMILING. KEEP SMILING. GOOD. HOLD THAT SPOT. WE GOOD? THANK YOU. OUR NEXT AWARD IS FOR THE DUGGAR RESIDENTS ON CREST OVER CIRCLE. A NEW TRANSITIONAL STYLE WHITE BRICK HOME WITH A LARGE, BEAUTIFUL WINDOWS WAS CONSTRUCTED TO REPLACE A 1970 HOME IN CANYON CREEK. THE COMMITTEE APPRECIATED THE RESIDENCE'S CLASSIC STYLE, AND THAT IT WAS WELL SCALED TO THE PROPERTY. THE PROPERTY WAS OPENED UP AND A NICE WALKWAY AND LIGHTING FINISHED OFF THE PROJECT. THE DUGGAR FAMILY ARE RICHARDSON NATIVES AND WE'RE GLAD FOR THE CHANCE TO MOVE BACK AND SETTLE IN A GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND ENJOY THEIR NEW BRIGHT HOME. ACCEPTING THE WAR TONIGHT ARE DAVID AND SHANNON DUGGAR. THEY ARE JOINED BY MEMBERS OF THEIR BUILDER TEAM FROM SHADDOCK CUSTOM HOMES. CONGRATULATIONS. CONGRATULATIONS. SEE YOU, MAN. GREAT WORK. [00:25:18] ALL RIGHT. HOLD THOSE BOX AND BIG SMILES. BIG SMILES. KEEP LOOKING FORWARD. KEEP LOOKING FORWARD. ONE MORE SET FORWARD BIG SMILES. PERFECT. THANK. NEXT IS THE JONES DOLLAR RESIDENCE. THE ORIGINAL HOME WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1967, AND WHEN THE OWNERS BOUGHT IT TWO YEARS AGO, IT COULD BARELY BE SEEN THROUGH THE OVERGROWN TREES AND AND BUSHES. THE HOME WAS GUTTED, THE OVERGROWTH THINNED AND A SECOND STORY. ADDITION. ADDED CARE HAS BEEN TAKEN TO PRESERVE THE HOME, BUT COMPLETE AN EXTENSIVE AND EFFECTIVE RENOVATION. A STANDING SEAM ROOF WAS ADDED AND NEW LARGE FRAME AND TRANSOM WINDOWS. THE EXTERIOR BRICK WAS PAINTED AND NEW HARDY BOARD AND STONE INSTALLED. THE SITE WAS COMPLETED WITH NEW GRASS, FLOWER BEDS, PLANTERS, LIGHTING, NEW FENCE, AND GATES AND OUTDOOR PATIOS. THE COMMITTEE APPRECIATED HOW THE SPIRIT OF THE ORIGINAL DESIGN WAS MAINTAINED, BUT THE IMPROVEMENTS MADE THE HOME MODERN, FUNCTIONAL, AND A GREAT IMPROVEMENT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. ACCEPTING THE AWARD TONIGHT ARE OWNERS, KEVIN JONES AND JASON DOLLAR. CONGRATULATIONS. YOU BET, BET. SMILE. SMILE. BIG SMILES. LOOKING FORWARD MORE. STEP SMILE. SMILE. PERFECT. THANK YOU. THANK OUR FINAL RECOGNITION TONIGHT GOES TO JJ PIERCE HIGH SCHOOL. PIERCE IS ONE OF FOUR HIGH SCHOOLS IN THE RICHARDSON INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND HAS OPERATED FROM THIS LOCATION SINCE 1970. IT HAS HAD ADDITIONS AND RENOVATIONS OVER THE YEARS WITH THE MOST RECENT SERIES OF RENOVATIONS AND UPDATES BEING PART OF A 2016 AND 2021 BOND PROGRAM. THE EXTENSIVE CONSTRUCTION WAS COMPLETED WHILE MAINTAINING SCHOOL OPERATIONS THAT INCLUDED ADDITIONS TO THE LIBRARY ACTIVITY CENTERS, THE MAIN ENTRANCE AND THEATER. THE FACILITY IS APPROXIMATELY 12,000 SQUARE FEET AND SUPPORTS ABOUT 2,400 STUDENTS AND 165 FULL-TIME FACULTY. THE SELECTION COMMITTEE APPLAUSE THE CARE IN COMPLETING THIS ATTRACTIVE AND MODERNIZED FACILITY FOR THE STUDENTS AND COMMUNITY. WE ARE VERY HONORED TO HAVE A NUMBER OF REPRESENTATIVES COME TO US THIS EVENING FOR THIS PROJECT. PLEASE WELCOME SCHOOL BOARD PRESIDENT CHRIS POTI, AND BOARD MEMBER MEGAN TIMMY, SUPERINTENDENT TABITHA BRONO AND HER TEAM. AND BRIAN GLENN. AND PATRICK GLENN AND THEIR TEAM FROM GLENN PARTNERS ARCHITECTS. I HAVE TO HAVE THE SCHOOL BOARD, SCHOOL MEMBERS OVER HERE. CONTRACTORS, COMFORT, RELAX, FOLKS. BE HERE WHILE, SAME THING. ALRIGHT, EVERYBODY LOOK HERE. BIG SMILES BE DOING THIS, UH, TWICE. SO HOLD THAT SPOT. GET SMILES. SMILES. RIGHT THERE. KEEP LOOKING FORWARD. KEEP LOOKING FORWARD. [00:30:06] THANK YOU EVERYBODY. EVERYBODY. EVERYBODY. COME ON BACK UP. WE'RE GONNA DO WE IF YOU CAN. ALRIGHT. THIS OUGHT, HERE'S WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO. I NEED COUNCIL TO TAKE, UH, MAYOR, COME FORWARD. RIGHT HERE FOR, AND THEN HERE I NEED OUR COUNCIL AND THEN OUR NORMAL SPOTS. PLEASE. I'M SO EVERYBODY WHO WON THE AWARDS NIGHTS, I NEED YOU TO START MOVING UP THIS WAY. WHERE YOU TALL PEOPLE IN THE BACK. UH, IF YOU ARE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN, UH, A LITTLE BIT SHORTER AND TALLER, I'LL HAVE YOU ON THE SIDES OF THE SECOND ON THE, UH, AN INNER ROW. AND THEN, UH, KIDS AND EVERYONE ELSE CAN COME UP FRONT PLEASE. ALRIGHT, SO TO BACK. ALRIGHT. COME FORWARD FOR ME. COME FORWARD AND YOU GUYS COME, UH, COME OVER HERE TO THE SIDE. RIGHT HERE. STAND ON FOR ME, FOR ME. TALLER, PLEASE. COME UP AND BACK. UM, FIND THE SPOT. COUNCIL, YOU'RE GOOD. RIGHT THERE. YOU'RE GOOD. SHOULDER RIGHT THERE. PERFECT. STAND RIGHT. PERFECT. PERFECT SIR. STAND RIGHT THERE, SIR. COME DOOR FOR ME. STAND RIGHT THERE. YOU'RE GOOD. . LET'S HAVE THE TWO OF YOU FACE WITH ALL. HOW AM AT LEAST YOU ALL ARE GONNA BE LIKE, OKAY. NOW YOU HAVE A REALLY GOOD RECENT SPOT. ALRIGHT, HERE WE GO. WOW. LET'S TRY THIS. ALL RIGHT, LOOK AT ME HERE AND LOOK AT THE CAMERA. ACTUALLY. THERE YOU GO. AND A LITTLE BIT MORE. PERFECT. ALRIGHT, THERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT. BIG SMILES. BIG SMILES. DOING WELL. DOING WELL. ONE OF THOSE WILL WORK. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALRIGHT. WHILE OUR AWARD WINNERS ARE EASING OUT, IF Y'ALL WOULD LIKE TO VISIT WITH THEM FOR A SHORT TIME, PLEASE DO. WE WILL START THE [00:35:01] OFFICIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING IN FIVE MINUTES. SIX 40. YEAH. SO I DID WANNA LET THE, UM, RECIPIENTS KNOW YOU CAN LEAVE YOUR NAME BADGES ON THE TABLE OUT FRONT, AND YOU'RE WELCOME TO, UM, GRAB A COOKIE ON YOUR WAY OUT. AND THEN ALSO THE, UM, UH, FOR CONTRACTORS, WE DO HAVE ADDITIONAL COPIES OF THE CERTIFICATE ALSO. GOOD EVENING. AFTER THAT BRIEF RECESS, WE WILL NOW CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER AT 6:40 PM FIRST ON OUR AGENDA AGENDA, MS. JENNIFER JUSTICE WILL LEAD US IN THE INVOCATION AND OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. THANK YOU. PLEASE JOIN ME AS YOU'RE COMFORTABLE. GOD, WE COME TO YOU TODAY AND ASK FOR YOUR STRENGTH, INSPIRATION, AND HOPE. AMEN. THE US PLEDGE, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE. ALL THE TEXAS FLAG. HONOR THE TEXAS I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE BE TO TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD. ONE AN INDIVISIBLE. THANK YOU, MS. JUSTICE. [3. MINUTES OF THE JANUARY 27, 2025 AND FEBRUARY 3, 2025 MEETINGS] AT THIS TIME, WE'RE LOOKING FOR A MOTION. MR. HUTCHIN RIDER. MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE JANUARY 27TH AND FEBRUARY 3RD MEETINGS. MR. DORIAN, I'LL SECOND THAT. GOT A MOTION. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? SHOW OF HANDS, PLEASE. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. [4. PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS AND VISITORS FORUM] ITEM NUMBER FOUR, PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS AND VISITORS FORUM. MR. MAGNER. UH, THANK YOU, MAYOR. MAYOR AND COUNSEL. UH, WE ARE IN RECEIPT OF SEVERAL CARDS IN ADVANCE OF THE 5:00 PM DEADLINE. SO WHAT I'M GONNA DO IS, UH, FIRST READ THE CARDS THAT ARE NON-RELATED TO PUBLIC HEARINGS, AND THEN I'LL ACKNOWLEDGE THOSE THAT ARE IN SUPPORT OF, UH, EACH OF THE THREE CASES OR IN OPPOSITION OF EACH OF THE THREE CASES. UH, SUBSEQUENT TO THAT, I'LL READ THE INSTRUCTIONS FOR EVERYONE WHO'S HERE TONIGHT, UM, SO THAT THEY'RE, UM, THEY UNDERSTAND, UM, HOW WE'LL APPROACH THE, UH, COMMENT PORTIONS OF EACH OF THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, AS WELL AS ANY, UH, ADDITIONAL VISITORS WHO MIGHT WANNA SPEAK ON ANOTHER, ANOTHER AGENDA ITEM. UM, SO FIRST LET ME ACKNOWLEDGE, UH, AND MAYOR, UH, AND COUNSEL, UH, TRADITIONALLY WE'LL READ THE ADDRESS OF THE, UH, SPEAKER, I MEAN OF THE CARD AS WELL, UH, VISIT WITH MS. NEER. AND, UH, WE'RE GONNA, UM, ALWAYS, AS WE ALWAYS DO, THOSE WILL BE LOGGED, UH, IN THE MINUTES. UH, BUT FOR JUST THE SAKE OF, UH, TIME, UM, AND GETTING ON WITH THE CITY'S BUSINESS TONIGHT, I'M JUST GONNA READ THE PERSON'S NAME AND, AND THEIR EITHER, UH, IN FAVOR OF OUR OPPOSITION TOO. SO, BUT EVERY, EVERY ONE OF THE ADDRESSES WILL BE LOGGED IN THE MINUTES OF THE MEETING. UM, SO, UH, GENERIC, UH, UH, FIRST, UH, COMMENT NOT RELATED TO THE PUBLIC HEARING IS MR. BEN BENJAMIN GOODINE. UH, THE TOPIC WAS DART AND HIS COMMENTS ARE IN FAVOR. LET ME ALSO REASSURE EVERY, UH, ONE'S NAME THAT I READ OFF TONIGHT THAT THE COUNCIL HAS BEEN PROVIDED A COPY OF YOUR COMMENTS AND HAS ACCESS THEM TO THEM, UH, AS A REFERENCE FOR, UM, FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING OR OTHERWISE. [5. PUBLIC HEARING, ZONING FILE 24-21, A REQUEST TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 7.52-ACRES FROM O-M OFFICE WITH SPECIAL CONDITIONS TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR THE O-M OFFICE DISTRICT WITH AMENDED DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS TO ACCOMMODATE THE DEVELOPMENT OF A 45,000-SQUARE FOOT RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT BUILDING AT 2140 LAKE PARK BOULEVARD, ON THE NORTH SIDE OF LAKE PARK BOULEVARD, EAST OF LAKE PARK WAY. ] SO, ITEM NUMBER FIVE, PUBLIC HEARING. UH, ZONING FILE. 24 21. UH, THE FOLLOWING ARE IN, ARE OPPOSED TO THE ZONING FILE. UH, CHERYL, CHERYL KROLL. KEVIN FINE, SHANNON NAPIER, DAVID RUBIN, BEMA. TODD BLAIR BEARD, NICOLE HAMBURG, RACHEL, UH, LANDRY, UH, AMNA CANARI, REBECCA WILLIAMS, SUSAN BASKIN, AND ALAN BASKIND. AGAIN, THOSE ARE FOR 24, 21, AND THOSE ARE OPPOSED PUBLIC HEARING. 24 34. UH, THESE CARDS, UM, ARE IN FAVOR. ADAM PP, JEREMY THOMASON, UH, THE HIGHLAND TERRACE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, AND BENJAMIN, UH, GOODINE. UM, THERE ARE NO CARDS IN OPPOSITION TO ZONING FILE 24 34 ZONING FILE 24 31. THE FOLLOWING ARE IN OPPOSITION. UM, ACTUALLY THESE, UH, LET ME READ THESE, UH, NAMES JUST IN CASE THEY'RE NOT HERE. BUT THEY, THESE INDICATED THEY WOULD SPEAK, BUT AGAIN, JUST IN, IN THE EVENT THAT THEY'RE NOT HERE, UM, THE FOLLOWING ARE OPPOSED. UH, JORDAN CONNOLLY, KERRY JUER, PAT KINDER, JASON HUGHES, MEGAN SENT TO NICOLA AND ANDREW LASKA. UH, THOSE, UH, SPEAKING IN SUPPORT, UM, ARE DAVID HARRELL AND ARIEL HERRERA. UM, THOSE NOT SPEAKING, BUT OPPOSED ARE CHRISSY CORTES MATHIS, JESSICA WINFORD, LINDA HAREL ROAD. SANDRA HOFFER, LINDSEY HOWELL. VICKI, UH, NICK RY. UH, AGAIN, THESE WERE POS, RHONDA WALLS, GARRETT WALLS, ELISA SNOW, JAMIE TILA, UH, DANIEL, NO, NO LAST NAME PROVIDED. UH, [00:40:01] JACKIE HOLT, DANITA KNIGHT, MORGAN TRE, SANDY HANE, UH, KATE LAIN LAFIRA, LAUREN DECKER, AND JENNIFER WILHELM. UH, THOSE ARE IN SUPPORT, BUT NOT SPEAKING ARE SCOTT MERRICK, JEREMY THOMASON, BENJAMIN GOODINE. AND, UH, ONE NEUTRAL. UH, JUSTIN NEFF. UM, MAYOR AND COUNSEL. THOSE ARE ALL THE CARDS THAT WE RECEIVED IN ADVANCE. I KNOW MS. NEHMER HAS RECEIVED A COUPLE, UM, SUBSEQUENT, UH, FOR EVERYONE WHO WILL BE SPEAKING TONIGHT, UH, EITHER ON A AGENDA ITEM OR DURING A PUBLIC HEARING. UM, THESE ARE THE INSTRUCTIONS FAR AS WE'LL PROCEED, UH, DURING THE FIRST PORTION, UH, OF THE MEETING HERE. UH, THE FIRST 30 MINUTES IS ALLOCATED FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO PROVIDE COMMENTS TO THE COUNCIL ON AGENDA ITEMS. IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON A PUBLIC HEARING, PLEASE WAIT UNTIL THAT PUBLIC HEARING IS OPENED. UM, IF THERE ARE, UH, UH, SPEAKER'S, UH, REMAINING AFTER THE INITIAL 30 MINUTES IS ALLOCATED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, THE REMAINING TIME WILL BE PROVIDED AS A VISITOR'S FORM OPEN TO, FOR ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON ANY TOPIC, WHICH IS IN THE SUBJECT MATTER, AND WITH, UH, IS WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE CITY. ALL SPEAKERS SHOULD COMPLETE A PUBLIC COMMENT CARD AND SUBMIT IT TO THE CITY'S SECRETARY. SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER. THEY ARE RECEIVED. WHEN YOUR NAME IS CALLED, PLEASE STATE, UH, STEP TO THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. ALL SPEAKERS WILL BE LIMITED TO A MAXIMUM OF FIVE MINUTES IS INDICATED BY THE TWO TIMERS. UH, WHEN THE TIMER BEEPS, THE SPEAKER SHOULD CONCLUDE THEIR COMMENTS PROMPTLY. SPEAKERS MUST NOT PHYSICALLY APPROACH MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL OR STAFF AND SHOULD REMAIN AT THE PODIUM DURING THEIR, THEIR COMMENTS. SPEAKERS WITH HANDOUTS MUST PROVIDE THEM TO THE CITY SECRETARY FOR DISTRIBUTION. SPEAKERS SUBMITTING COMMENTS ON THE SAME TOPIC ARE ENCOURAGED TO REDUCE REPETITIVE REMARKS BY INDICATING THEIR COMMENTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN ADDRESSED. OR BY SELECTING A REPRESENTATIVE. SPEAKER. THE TEXAS OPEN MEETING ACT PROHIBITS THE CITY COUNCIL FROM DISCUSSING OR TAKING ACTIONS ON ITEMS THAT ARE NOT POSTED ON THE AGENDA. CITY COUNCIL AND STAFF WILL NOT AFFIRM OR OPPOSE ANY SPEAKER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS. THE MAYOR, CITY MANAGER MAY RESPOND WITH FACTS, POLICY, OR DIRECT CITY STAFF TO RESPOND TO THE SPEAKER AT THE AFTER THE MEETING. THIS IS A BUSINESS MEETING. THE AUDIENCE HAS ASKED TO REFRAIN FROM APPLAUDING OR OTHER EXPRESSIONS OF SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION, A COPY OF THE COUNCIL RULES OF ORDER AND PROCEDURE. AND THESE GUIDELINES MAY BE FOUND ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE. AT THIS TIME, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE TO SILENCE THEIR CELL PHONE DURING THE MEETING. MAYOR, AT THIS TIME, UH, I'LL, UH, ASK MS. NEER OUR CITY SECRETARY, IF THERE'S ANYONE TO HEAR IF THERE'S ANYONE, UH, EXCUSE ME, HERE TO SPEAK, UH, DURING THE VISITOR'S FORUM, NOT A PUBLIC HEARING. ALL THE CARDS I HAVE ARE FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS. OKAY. THANK YOU MS. NEER. THEN WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ZONING FILE 24 21, A REQUEST TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 7.52 ACRES TO ACCOMMODATE THE DEVELOPMENT OF A 45,000 SQUARE FOOT RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT BUILDING AT 2140 LAKE PARK BOULEVARD. MR. MAGGART, THANK YOU, MAYOR. MAYOR AND COUNSEL, YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU A LETTER FROM THE APPLICANT, UH, REQUESTING A, UM, CONTINUANCE, UH, TO THE, TO FEBRUARY 17TH, UH, UH, REPRESENTATIVE, THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND WILL ASK HER TO, UH, APPROACH THE PODIUM SHORTLY. UM, LET ME JUST PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF GUIDANCE, UH, ON THIS. UH, IT IS A, IT IS A POSTED PUBLIC HEARING, SO, UM, SUBSEQUENT TO THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE, UM, UH, FORMALLY SUBMITTING HER REQUEST, UM, IF, UM, YOU WANTED TO CONSIDER CONTINUING, UH, THE, UM, UH, THE CASE IN, UH, TO THE 17TH, FEBRUARY 17TH NEXT WEEK, UM, WE WOULD ASK TO, UH, WOULD ASK YOU TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ACCEPT COMMENTS FROM ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THEM TONIGHT AS THE MEETING WAS POSTED, ANYONE WHO WANTS TO MAKE COMMENTS SUBSEQUENT TO THE CITY PRESENTATION OR THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION, WE WOULD INVITE BACK NEXT WEEK ON THE 17TH, BECAUSE THE COUNCIL, UM, WILL, IF, IF YOU DECIDE TO CONTINUE THE CASE, YOU WILL NOT CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SO NEXT WEEK, UM, THE, THE PUBLIC WOULD BE ABLE TO, UH, MAKE THEIR COMMENTS AS WELL. AGAIN, THAT'S ONLY IF THEY, THEY, THEY CHOOSE. THEY DON'T WANNA DO THAT TONIGHT. IF THEY WANNA DO THAT TONIGHT, THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE AS WELL. SO LET ME, UH, INVITE THE, UH, APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE TO THE PODIUM TO OFFICIALLY MAKE THE REQUEST. AND THEN COUNSEL, WE CAN PROCEED FROM THERE. YES. THANK YOU. NOW YOU CAN, YES. YES. THANK YOU, MR. MAGNER. HONORABLE MAYOR, UM, COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS MARGOT MURPHY. I'M WITH BALDWIN ASSOCIATES AT 39 0 4 ELM STREET, SUITE B, DALLAS, TEXAS. I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF LENNOX INTERNATIONAL INC. UH, WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST A CONTINUANCE UNTIL FEBRUARY 17TH, SO THAT WE MAY, UH, COMPLETE, UH, REVISIONS TO THE PLAN, UM, OUT OF RESPECT TO THE, UH, INPUT FROM THE NEIGHBORS AND FROM STAFF. AND WE WILL BE FULLY PREPARED TO MAKE A PRESENTATION AT THE FEBRUARY 17TH HEARING. THANK YOU. OKAY, COUNSEL MAYOR PROTO, I'D [00:45:01] LIKE TO PUT A MOTION TO CONTINUE THE, CAN I PUT THE MOTION OR, UM, YOU CAN HAVE SOME DISCUSSION NOW, BUT, UH, WE WILL, UH, YOU'LL WANNA OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FIRST AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU, IF, IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION THE COUNCIL'S HEADED, LET'S JUST MAKE SURE TO LEAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN. AND SO MAYOR PROTE, MAYBE AFTER THE, UH, OKAY. WE SEE IF ANYONE WANTS TO SPEAK. OKAY. OKAY. MS. BERT, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKING CARDS? I DO HAVE ONE FOR THIS CASE. ALLEN BASKIN. GOOD EVENING. UM, HONORABLE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME'S ALAN BASKIN. MY ADDRESS IS PARKSIDE TOWNS 2 2 3 0 HIBISCUS AVENUE, RICHARD TEXAS, RICHARD TEXAS 7 5 0 8 0. I AM THE TRUSTEE AND DE FACTO OWNER OF PARKSIDE TOWNS. THERE'S BEEN AN APPLICATION FOR THE REZONING OF THE LINUX INTERNATIONAL BUILDING, WHICH IS ADJACENT TO PARKSIDE TOWNS, WHICH HOUSES MULTIFAMILY. THIS IS A HISTORICAL DESIGNATION OF RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT. IT WAS ORIGINALLY GIVEN WHEN THE CURRENT BUILDING WAS ESTABLISHED, AND THAT WAS BEFORE ANY OF THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES HAD BEEN DEVELOPED. SO THEY ARE RELYING ON A HISTORICAL FACT, UM, IN ORDER TO GET RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT DONE. OUR, UM, REASON FOR OPPOSING THIS IS THAT THEY WANT TO INTRODUCE INDUSTRIAL SIZED HUGE EQUIPMENT LIKE 50 TON HVACS AND TRANSPORT THEM INTO THIS NEWLY CREATED INDUSTRIAL YARD, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE FORKLIFTS, POSSIBLE CRANES, WHICH IS TOTALLY INAPPROPRIATE AND OUTRAGEOUS IN A DENSELY POPULATED, COMPLETELY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. THE MULTIFAMILY AND SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ARE ADJACENT TO CONTIGUOUSLY TO THE BORDER WITH LENOX ON THREE SIDES. THE SERIOUS DISTURBANCE OF THIS PREVIOUSLY QUITE AND SAFE RESIDENTIAL ENVIRONMENT, WHICH HAS VERY ATTRACTIVE VIEWS AT THE MOMENT, AND HAS EXISTED SINCE THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES WERE CREATED, WILL MOST CERTAINLY BE DESTROYED BY SERIOUS LOUD NOISE POLLUTION FROM A NEW BUSY INDUSTRIAL YARD. SO WE'RE NOT OPPOSING THE CREATION OF A RES A R AND D FACILITY. IT'S CREATING A INDUSTRIAL BUSINESS. THE, UM, HEAVY EQUIPMENT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE, UM, DOING THE RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT ON WILL REQUIRE ENORMOUS FLY FLATBED TRUCKS AND 18 WHEELERS FOR TRANSPORTING HUGE INDUSTRIAL MACHINERY. THIS, BESIDES THE NOISE WILL POSE A PEDESTRIAN HAZARD ON THE BUSY FRONTING SIDEWALKS. AND THERE ARE, THERE'S A CONTINUOUS, UM, TRAFFIC WITH NUMEROUS STUDENTS ATTENDING NEIGHBORHOOD SCHOOLS CLOSE BY AS WELL AS UNIVERSITY TEXAS, DALLAS. AND THE, THE LOCAL RESIDENTS ALSO USE A VERY POPULAR WATER POND, WHICH LIES IN FRONT OF THE LENNOX BUILDING. THE ROADS THAT ARE ENTERING AND EXITING THE PREMISES ARE TOO NARROW AND NOT DESIGNED FOR THESE HUGE INDUSTRIAL TRANSPORTING TRUCKS, WHICH WILL INEVITABLY TEAR UP THE ROAD SURFACES AND CREATE A SIGNIFICANT HAZARD TO PEDESTRIANS AND THE USUAL HEAVY PASSING TRAFFIC. REMEMBERING THAT THERE ARE, UM, A NUMBER OF SCHOOLS AND SOME OF THEM ARE HAVE, UM, ARE PRIMARY SCHOOLS. THE PRESENCE OF A NEW NOISY CONTINUOUS INDUSTRIAL ACTIVITY AT THE CENTER OF THIS DENSE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD WILL CAUSE AN INEVITABLE, SERIOUS DEPRECIATION OF ALL PROPERTY VALUES AND CAUSE ADJACENT TENANTS OF THE MULTI-FAMILY COMPLEX TO AVOID RENTING THERE. AND THEY HAVE SAID SO THEREBY SERIOUSLY DAMAGING CURRENT REAL ESTATE INCOMES. THIS EARNING CHANGE IS BLATANTLY USING A PRETEXT AND A MASQUERADED DISTORTION BY USING A GRANDFATHERED R AND D USAGE THAT WAS HISTORICALLY ISSUED TO THE CURRENT MUCH OLDER BUILDINGS WHOSE EXISTENCE HAS LONG PROCEEDED THE NEWEST SURROUNDING DENSE RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION. AT THAT TIME, IT WAS APPROPRIATE, LENNOX WAS THE ONLY BUILDING THERE. HOWEVER, LENNOX HAS ALWAYS CONFINED THAT ACTIVITIES TO INDOOR, CONVENTIONALLY ACCEPTED R AND D, NON-INDUSTRIAL SIZED HVAC MACHINERY, WHICH WAS VERY COMMENDABLE. WIDELY ACCEPTED. CITY PLANNING PRINCIPLES [00:50:01] ARE BASED ON SEPARATING INDUSTRIAL FROM RESIDENTIAL USAGE. AND THIS ZONING REQUEST IGNORES AND DISREGARDS THIS LONG ACCEPTED PRECEDENT. THIS ZONING CHANGE IS A CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF BIG BUSINESS EXERTING ITS ECONOMIC MUSCLE AND INFLUENCE AND TOTAL DISREGARD FOR THE WELFARE OF THOUSANDS OF REGULATION MINDED AND LAW ABIDING DOMESTIC RESIDENTS, OF WHICH WE ARE. WHEREAS THIS HUGE COMPANY WITH AN ANNUAL TURNOVER OF $4 BILLION, CAN EASILY LOCATE ITS PROPOSED FACILITY IN ONE OF ITS MULTIPLE EXISTING LOCAL PREMISES, WHICH ARE CURRENTLY LOCATED IN ESTABLISHED INDUSTRIAL ZONES BY GREEN LENUX. MULTIPLE ZONING CHANGES, REQUEST THE CITY RICHES AND CITY COULD BE A, IGNORING THE PLEADINGS OF THOUSANDS OF ITS RESIDENTS REGARDING THE DESTRUCTION OF THEIR CURRENT FAVORABLE REAL ESTATE EVALUATIONS AND ECONOMIC SITUATION AND THE PEACEFUL, QUIET FAMILY LIFE. THE R AND D USED HIS IATION AS POORLY DEFINED AND OPEN TO MANIPULATION BY AN UNSCRUPULOUS SELF-DEALING ECONOMICALLY INTERESTED PARTY. IT IS THE THIN EDGE OF THE WEDGE. LET'S PLEASE TRY TO WRAP IT UP, SIR. I AM. THAT COULD OPEN THE DOOR TO MANY NEW INDUSTRIAL ACTIVITIES TO EXPAND AND MULTIPLY, MULTIPLY UNDER THE GUISE OF RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT. ONCE THIS, THE ZONING CHANGES ARE GRANTED, THE CITY WOULD BE LEGALLY POWERLESS TO RESTRAIN OR LIMIT ANY NEW FREE FOR ALL INDUSTRIAL ACTIVITIES. THIS IS A CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF DAVID VERSUS GOLIATH'S BATTLE. THE AFFECTED RESIDENTS RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THE ZONING CHANGES NOT BE GRANTED BOTH IN THEIR AND THE CITY'S BEST INTEREST. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION. THANK YOU, MS. EMER. ANY MORE CARDS? NO OTHER CARDS FOR THAT CASE. MAYOR, THANK YOU. I'D BE LOOKING FOR ANY DISCUSSION OR MR. HUTCH. WRITER. NO DISCUSSION. NO DISCUSSION. WOULD YOU LIKE TO, WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO, UM, CONTINUE CONT UH, CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING UNTIL NEXT MONDAY, FEBRUARY 17TH AT 6:00 PM FEBRUARY PM 17TH AT 6:00 PM MM-HMM . OKAY. I GOT A MOTION MR. DORIAN, I'LL SECOND THAT. GOT A MOTION. AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? SHOW OF HANDS, PLEASE. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. [6. PUBLIC HEARING, ZONING FILE 24-34, AND CONSIDER ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE NO. 4531, AMENDING THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE AND ZONING MAP BY GRANTING A CHANGE IN ZONING BY GRANTING A SPECIAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO MODIFY THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS OF THE COLLINS/ARAPAHO FORM-BASED CODE FOR 10.39-ACRES LOCATED ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF E. ARAPAHO ROAD AND N. GROVE ROAD ZONED PLANNED DEVELOPMENT COLLINS/ARAPAHO TOD & INNOVATION (STATION AREA SUB-DISTRICT). ] ALRIGHT. ITEM NUMBER SIX, PUBLIC HEARING ZONING FILE 24 DASH 34. CONSIDER ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 45 31, GRANTING A CHANGE IN ZONING FOR 10.39 ACRES, LOCATED ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF EAST ARAPAHOE ROAD AND NORTH GROVE ROAD. MR. MAGNER. AYE. THANK YOU MAYOR. UH, AMBER, UH, POLAND, OUR, UM, SENIOR PLANNER IS OUR, UH, IS GOING TO BRIEF THIS CASE. AMBER. OKAY. UH, MAYOR, WE ARE, UH, CITY STAFF WILL PRESENT, UH, UH, OUR PRESENTATION. UH, THE APPLICANT IS HERE, UH, AS WELL, HAS A PRESENTATION INCLUDING, UM, SOME CONCEPTUAL, UH, RENDERINGS AS WELL AS, UH, SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THEY'D LIKE TO SUPPORT, UH, TO, TO PROVIDE. SO, UH, LET ME TURN IT OVER TO AMBER AND, UH, SHE'LL BEGIN OUR BRIEFING. YEAH, I'M HAPPY TO BE, BE BACK UP HERE WITH YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO THE, UM, THIS PUBLIC HEARING ITEM THIS EVENING IS, UH, REGARDING THE LEGACY ARAPAHO MULTI-FAMILY PROJECT. IT IS LOCATED AT TWO 50 EAST ARAPAHO ROAD, UM, THAT IS THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF ARAPAHOE ROAD AND, OR SORRY, THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF EAST ARAPAHOE ROAD AND NORTH GROVE ROAD. UM, SO YOU, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE AERIAL, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY DOES CONTAIN AN EXISTING OFFICE BUILDING. IT'S A TWO STORY, UH, BUILDING 156,000 SQUARE FEET. IT WAS BUILT IN 1985 AND, UM, HAS, IS REFERRED TO AS RICHARDSON COMMONS. UH, IT HAS HAD A NUMBER OF TENANTS THROUGHOUT THE YEARS, UM, BUT HAS BEEN VACANT THE LAST COUPLE YEARS. SO THE, UH, IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED THE COLLINS ARAPAHOE, TOD AND INNOVATION DISTRICT PD PLAN DEVELOPMENT. UM, AND THEY ARE REQUESTING A SPECIAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN THIS EVENING. SO, AGAIN, JUST TO, UM, FAMILIARIZE YOU WITH THIS SITE, THIS IS FROM THE, THE CORNER OF ARAPAHO AND GROVE. UM, SO SOMETHING YOU CAN NOTICE FROM THE IMAGES IS THERE ARE A LOT OF TREES. WHEN THIS PROPERTY WENT IN, IN 1985, THEY PLANTED A LOT OF TREES AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE PROPERTY, UM, LOOKING WEST FROM GROVE ROAD, UM, FROM THE CITY'S GYMNASTICS FACILITY TO THE ELEVATION, UM, FROM THE INTERIOR OF THE PROPERTY, LOOKING EAST AT THE EXISTING BUILDING AND THEN LOOKING NORTH THERE. UM, AT THE, THE BUILDING, YOU SEE, PART OF THAT U-SHAPED DESIGN WAS TO, UM, THEY HAD A NUMBER OF TREES INCLUDED IN THAT CENTER AREA. AND THEN LOOKING WEST, UM, THERE'S AN PORTION OF AN ABANDONED RAILS SPUR ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE PROPERTY. ALL RIGHT, SO, UM, AS YOU'RE AWARE THAT ENVISION RICHARDSON COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WAS ADOPTED LAST NOVEMBER, THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN, UM, THAT WAS PART OF [00:55:01] THAT PLAN ADOPTION. IT REINFORCES THE PRIOR PLANNING WORK ON THIS FOR THIS AREA AND DESIGNATES IT AS A TRANSIT VILLAGE PLACE TYPE. SO THAT, UM, THE INTENT OF THAT AREA IS THAT BUILDINGS ARE BUILT UP TO THE SIDEWALK, UM, MINIMUM OF TWO STORIES, AND THE MAJORITY BEING FOUR OR HIGHER. AND, UM, BY CREATING AREAS CALLED OUT FOR RECREATION AND GATHERING. AND MULTIFAMILY IS IDENTIFIED AS A PRIMARY USE FOR THIS AREA. SO THE COLLINS ARAPAHOE, TOD, IS THE ZONING OF THE PROPERTY. THAT ZONING WAS ADOPTED IN 2019. AND, UM, BASED ON A LOT OF STUDIES THAT WERE DONE PRIOR TO THAT TIME, THE, UM, IT WAS AN ENHANCEMENT REDEVELOPMENT AREA THAT WAS IDENTIFIED IN THE 2009 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UM, WITH THE IDEA THAT, UH, GETTING INTO THIS LARGER AREA THAT IT WOULD BE, UH, PREMIER TECH HUB IN TEXAS. SO THE STATION SUBDISTRICT IS THE AREA IN YELLOW. SO THAT, UM, THIS LARGER PLAN DEVELOPMENT WAS BROKEN INTO SOME SUBDISTRICTS. THE STATION AREA SUBDISTRICT IS, UM, GEARED TOWARDS THE AREA ALONG GREENVILLE AND THE DART LINE. AND, UM, THE VISION OF THAT AREA IS TO POSITION THE DART ARAPAHO CENTER STATION, UH, FOR HIGH DENSITY TRANSIT ORIENTED AND MIXED USE GATEWAY DEVELOPMENT TO BE A GATEWAY INTO THE INNOVATION DISTRICT. UM, AND IT SPECIFICALLY CALLS OUT INCREASING FLEXIBILITY TO MAXIMIZE DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL AROUND THE STATION. UM, YOU'RE AWARE THERE IS THE R-F-R-F-P, THERE'S THE DEVELOPMENT, UM, INTEREST TO GOING DIRECTLY TO THE DART STATION AREA. UM, AND THEN, SO THIS IS AN AREA JUST SOUTH OF THAT, THAT LOCATION. UM, SO OTHER HIGHLIGHTS OF THE STATION'S SUBDISTRICT IS THAT IT DOES CONTAIN AN AREA HIGHLIGHTED FOR A SPECIAL SITE, THE ABEND ABANDONED RAIL SPUR. SO THAT IS, UM, IS INTENDED TO SERVE AS A KEY EAST WEST TRAIN, UH, CONNECTION, TRAIL CONNECTION WITH, UM, ENCOURAGEMENT OF TRAIL ORIENTED DESIGN FOR ADJACENT PROPERTIES. UM, AND THEN AS A, UH, THIS AREA, THERE'S NOT A MAXIMUM HEIGHT AND THE ARAPAHO, UM, ROAD IS DESIGNATED AS AN ACCESS CORRIDOR AND GROVE ROAD AS A NEIGHBORHOOD CORRIDOR. UM, ALSO SOMETHING TO NOTE AS FAR AS THIS AREA THAT, UM, IS CALLED, I, YOU SEE THESE SPECIAL AREAS WITH THE DOTS. SO, UM, ALONG SOME EXISTING DAR OWNED AREAS, SOME, UM, RAILROAD OWNED AREAS. SO THE CITY DOESN'T OWN ALL OF THAT, THAT PROPERTY, BUT THE INTENT IS TO CALL IT OUT FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. UM, FUNDING HASN'T BEEN IDENTIFIED AND, UM, THERE ARE NO CURRENT PLANS FOR THE CITY TO DEVELOP THE TRAIL, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO, UM, DEVELOP WITH ORIENTATION TO, UM, BE ABLE TO PROVIDE FOR THAT IN THE FUTURE. SO THE PROPOSED CONCEPT PLAN, THIS IS, UM, IT WAS PROPOSED BY THE APPLICANT. SO THERE ARE FIVE BUILDINGS ON THE SIDE. IT IS A MIX OF BUILDING TYPES. SO THE FARTHEST NORTH PORTION IS A MULTI-FAMILY BUILDING AT FOUR STORIES. THE NEXT BUILDING DOWN IS A THREE STORY BUILDING. THERE IS, UM, A THREE STORY, UH, BUILDING THAT SITS ALONG THE SPECIAL SITE AREA. IT WOULD BE ORIENTED TOWARDS A SPECIAL SITE. AND THEN THERE ARE SOME TOWN HOME UNITS, UM, THAT WOULD FACE ONTO GROVE ROAD. SO THE SITE ITSELF WOULD ACCOMMODATE TOTAL OF 443 DWELLING UNITS. THE THIS ZONE, UH, REQUIRES A MINIMUM OF 40 UNITS PER ACRE. SO IT IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE DENSITY REQUIREMENT. THEY'RE PROVIDING PARKING IN A PARKING GARAGE STRUCTURE THAT'S LOCATED IN THE BUILDING UP AT THE CORNER. UM, AND THEN AS WELL AS PROVIDING FOR SOME, UH, TECH UNDER OR GARAGE STYLE ON THE UNITS AND TOWN HOME UNITS AND SOME OPEN PARKING ON AROUND THE SITE. AND, UH, WITH IT CENTERED ON THE SOUTH END OF THE SITE, THE, UM, THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT, UH, DOES LIKE FOR PARKING TO BE LOCATED IN A GARAGE AND THEN, UM, SURFACE PARKING TO BE, TO BE LAID OUT SO THAT, UM, IT CAN PROVIDE AREAS THAT THERE COULD BE REDEVELOPMENT OR THE SITE COULD BE, UM, USED FURTHER IN THE FUTURE. SO WITH THE GROUPING OF THIS PARKING AREA TO THE SOUTH END, IT DOES ALLOW FOR THAT, UH, FOR POTENTIAL REDEVELOPMENT ON THAT AREA. UM, THE PARKING IS COMPLIANT IN THEIR REQUEST. THEY HAVE AN AVERAGE OF 1.42 SPACES PER UNIT, UM, IN THIS ZONE BECAUSE IT'S GEARED TOWARDS TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT. THE PARKING REQUIREMENT IS, IS LOWER. UM, AND IT'S BASED ON THE UNIT, THE, UM, UNIT TYPE. SO THE, THEY HAVE PROVIDED A, UH, CONCEPTUAL OR, UH, POTENTIAL BREAKDOWN OF THE UNIT TYPES. AND THEN THEY ARE PROPOSING AMENITY SPACE WITHIN THE BUILDING, UM, WITH THE LEASING AND AMEN T AREA, UM, AT [01:00:01] THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE PROPERTY. ALL RIGHT. SO AS, UM, FAR AS THE SPECIFICS OF THE REQUEST, THIS IS A SPECIAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN REQUEST. SO THAT IS A REQUEST FOR A MODIFICATION TO THE STANDARDS OF THE CODE, UM, FOR ANY STANDARDS OF THE CODE, THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT OTHER THAN MINOR MODIFICATIONS, THE, AND IT'S REVIEWED AND PROCESSED AS A SPECIAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. SO THE INTENT OF THAT IS TO ALLOW APPLICANT'S DEVELOPMENT FLEXIBILITY TO ADDRESS SPECIFIC MARKET OPPORTUNITIES AND OR CONTEXT. SO THE APPLICANT HAS, UM, BEEN REVIEWING THE CODE, REVIEWING THE SITE, AND HAS MADE THE, HAS REQUESTED FOR, UM, THE SPECIAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN EXCEPTIONS AS PART OF THIS REQUEST. SO ONE OF THOSE IS BLOCK LENGTH, UM, THE, AND PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS, STREET SCAPE REQUIREMENTS, UH, BUILDING LENGTH WITH AND PEDESTRIAN SEPARATION AND BUILDING MATERIALS. SO I'LL, UM, WE HAVE SOME SLIDES THAT I'LL HIGHLIGHT THOSE SPECIFICALLY. SO AS FAR AS THE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS, SO THE CODE IS THAT THE BLOCK FACE THAT RESULTS IN 500 FEET IN LENGTH OR GREATER SHOULD, UM, PROVIDE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS THROUGH THE BLOCK AT AN APPROXIMATE MID-BLOCK DISTANCE. OKAY. SO THE, UM, INTENT OF THAT, THE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION, UM, IS TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE ACCESS SO THAT IF THERE'S PEOPLE PARKING OR TRYING TO ACCESS, UH, THROUGH THE BLOCK OR STREETS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF A PROPERTY, THAT THERE SOMEONE WOULD BE ABLE TO GET THERE WITHOUT HAVING TO GO AROUND A BUILDING. UM, IN THIS SITE, YOU NOTICE THAT THIS IS ONE FULL PROPERTY IN THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES. THERE'S NOT ANY OTHER ADJACENT STREETS BESIDES ARAPAHOE AND GROVE ROAD. SO THE PROPERTY DOES NOT, UM, ACCESS OTHER, OTHER ROADWAYS. UM, AND SO PROVIDING PUBLIC PEDESTRIAN ACCESS THROUGH THE PROPERTY WOULD JUST GET YOU TO THE BACK OF A WAREHOUSE. THERE'S NOT ANY PROPOSED ADDITIONAL ROADWAYS THROUGH THIS BLOCK. UM, AND SO THE, AS FAR AS LIKE MASTER PLAN FOR ADDITIONAL ROADS TO, UM, MOVE THROUGH THIS LARGER BLOCK AREA, UM, AND SO THE APPLICANT IS, UM, PROPOSING THAT THEY WOULD ELIMINATE THE, A NORTH SOUTH PUBLIC, UM, CONNECTION, UH, BECAUSE IT WOULD BE GOING ALONG A PROPERTY LINE. UM, AND THEY ARE PROVIDING, UH, PEDESTRIAN ACCESS FOR THEIR RESIDENTS THOUGH. SO WITHIN THE COMPLEX, IF YOU'RE LIVING IN THE, ANY OF THE BUILDINGS OR IN THIS BUILDING, THERE IS, UM, AN OPENING IN THE BUILDING HERE. YOU CAN MOVE FROM THIS BUILDING, MOVE THROUGH THE SITE. THERE IS A CARRIAGEWAY IN THE BUILDING HERE. YOU COULD MOVE THROUGH THE BUILDING, UM, THROUGH THAT LEASING CENTER AND BE ABLE TO ACCESS ARAPAHOE, UM, BE ABLE TO MOVE TOWARDS, UH, THE DART STATION THROUGH OTHER BUILD A AS A PEDESTRIAN MOVE THROUGH THE SITE AS A RESIDENT. UM, AS FAR AS AN EAST WEST CONNECTION, THEY ARE PROPOSING, AS OPPOSED TO A MIDBLOCK EAST WEST CONNECTION THAT AGAIN, WOULD NOT, WOULD JUST BRING YOU TO THE BACK OF A, AN EXISTING BUILDING OR AN ADJACENT PROPERTY THAT, UM, THERE'S NO PLANS FOR, UH, WHAT THAT WOULD LEAD TO. THEY'RE PROPOSING TO, UM, TO PUT IN A, A SIDEWALK THAT WOULD, UH, THAT WOULD MOVE TO THAT SPECIAL SITE. SO AS OPPOSED TO JUST A, A MID-BLOCK SIDEWALK TO PUT IN A PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION ON THE SOUTH END OF THE PROPERTY, THAT WOULD ALLOW, UM, CONNECTION TO THAT SPECIAL SITE FUTURE TRAIL. ON THE SECOND ITEM THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT ARE STREET SCAPE REQUIREMENTS. SO THIS CODE DOES HAVE A NUMBER OF STREET SCAPE REQUIREMENTS THAT, UM, ARE GEARED TOWARDS, UH, UNIFORM DEVELOPMENT OF THE ROADWAYS AND, UM, HAVING A GOOD PEDESTRIAN ENVIRONMENT ALONG, ALONG THE PROPERTIES. UM, THIS SITE WAS DEVELOPED, LIKE I SAID, IT WAS DEVELOPED IN 1985 AND WHEN IT WAS DEVELOPED, THEY PUT IN PARK STRIP ALONG ARAPAHOE, UM, PUT IN SIDEWALK. AND THEN, UH, ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY LINE, THEY PUT IN A NUMBER OF TREES. THERE'S, UM, THE LANDSCAPING THAT WAS ADJACENT TO THEIR PARKING AREAS. SO THEIR, WHAT THEY HAVE PROPOSED IS WHAT'S EXISTING IS DIFFERENT THAN THE PROPOSAL ALONG ARAPAHOE, WHICH WOULD BE FOR A PARK STRIP AND, UM, A SIDEWALK. AND THEN THE PROPERTY, WHICH YOU WOULD, COULD HAVE A BUILDING RIGHT UP TO THAT PROPERTY. SO THEY ARE REQUESTING FOR CONSIDERATION OF APPROVING WHAT THEY HAVE, WHICH IS ADDITIONAL GREENSCAPE THEN IS EVEN, UM, REQUIRED OR ENVISIONED IN, UM, IN THE STREETSCAPE, UM, SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY TO BE ABLE TO, UH, WORK WITH AS MANY OF THOSE MATURE TREES AS THEY CAN, SO TO LEAVE THE STREETSCAPE AS IT IS SO THAT THEY CAN PROTECT SOME OF THOSE TREES, UM, IF POSSIBLE. AND THEN, UH, LIKEWISE ON GROVE, YOU SEE THE, THE PLAN WAS FOR A SIDEWALK RIGHT ADJACENT TO THE ROADWAY AND THEN THE, A PARK SHIP WITH TREES. SO [01:05:01] THEY DO HAVE A, A PARK SHIP THAT'S CREATING SOME BUFFER AND PEDESTRIAN AMENITY THE SIDEWALK, AND THEN THE, THE, UM, SOME GREEN SPACE. AND THEN THE TREES ARE ACTUALLY PRIMARILY LOCATED ON THE PROPERTY ITSELF. SO THEY'RE REQUESTING SOME FLEXIBILITY IN THAT STREETSCAPE REQUIREMENTS SO THAT THEY CAN WORK WITH THE EXISTING TREES THAT ARE THERE. AND THE, THE LANDSCAPE THAT'S THERE, UM, WHICH AGAIN IS, UH, IS CONSISTENT WITH THE INTENT OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET AT WITH THE STREETSCAPE AREAS. UM, BECAUSE THIS IS A REDEVELOPMENT OF THIS SITE, THERE IS STILL SOME FLEXIBILITY TO LOOK AT IF THERE'S, UH, REPAIRS OR THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE TO THE SIDEWALK TO, UM, BE COMPLIANT, UH, WITH, WITH ACCESS AND, UH, SOME OF THE, THE MAINTENANCE ALONG THERE. ALL RIGHT, WITH, UH, THE, THE THIRD ITEM IS A, UM, BUILDING LENGTH AND SEPARATION. SO THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT CODE DOES REQUIRE GROUND FLOOR BUILDINGS SHALL NOT EXCEED 250 FEET IN LENGTH WITHOUT A 15 FOOT SEPARATION. SO THE INTENT OF THAT BEING THAT, UM, YOU WALKING ALONG A BUILDING, YOU'D BE ABLE TO, YOU HAVE 250 FEET, YOU HAVE A BREAK THAT YOU'D BE ABLE TO ACCESS, UM, ACCESS, PARKING, BE ABLE TO GET TO, UM, OTHER AREAS ON A SITE. THIS AREA IS, IS GEARED TOWARDS, UM, PRIMARILY TRAVEL ALONG ARAPAHOE ROAD, UM, AND THEN IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT IN NATURE THAN WHEN WE ACTUALLY GET UP INTO THE DART, UM, THE DART STATION AREA. UM, BUT WHAT THEY ARE PROPOSING IS THAT, UM, AS OPPOSED TO HAVING A BREAK IN THE BUILDING, THAT WOULD JUST LEAD YOU INTO PRIVATE, PRIVATE SPACE OR INTO THE, THE BULK OF THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF IS THEY'RE REQUESTING TO, UM, NOT PROVIDE, UH, SEPARATION FOR PUBLIC ACCESS INTO THE BUILDING, UM, THROUGH THE BUILDING. BUT AGAIN, THE RESIDENTS CAN BUILD, MOVE THROUGH THE BUILDING, MOVE BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS, AND THEN THEY WOULD, UM, THEY ARE MEETING THE ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS AND REQUIREMENTS FOR HAVING GROUND LEVEL UNITS HAVING DOORS, UM, OUT ONTO THE STREET, THE ARTICULATION REQUIREMENTS. AND SO THEY'RE TRYING TO PROMOTE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY BY BREAKING UP THAT BUILDING FRONTAGE WITH DIFFERENT MATERIALS AND ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS, HAVING ACTUAL PEDESTRIAN ACCESS TO IT THROUGH THE INDIVIDUAL UNITS. UM, AND, UH, SO THAT, THAT'S THE REQUEST ON THE BUILDING LENGTH AND SEPARATION. UM, THE FOURTH ITEM IS BUILDING MATERIALS. WE DON'T SPECIFICALLY ENFORCE BUILDING MATERIALS, UM, BUT THEY ARE REQUESTING SOME, UM, FLEXIBILITY. UM, KE WE HAS SOME OF THOSE, UH, REQUIREMENTS THAT WAS THE BUILDING MATERIAL CODE WAS, UM, WAS IMPACTED BY STATE LAW CHANGES AND, UM, THINGS LIKE THAT MIGHT COME ALONG OR CHANGE AGAIN. AND SO AS THEY MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT, THEY DO WANT IT TO JUST CALL OUT THAT AS FAR AS BUILDING MATERIALS, THE CODE, UH, SAYS THAT FOR ANY EXTERIOR WALL OR EACH EXTERIOR WALL WILL COMPLY WITH THE FOLLOWING MATERIAL REQUIREMENTS, SUBMITTING THOSE PRIMARY MATERIAL REQUIREMENTS LIKE MASONRY, STONE, GLASS, METAL CLADDING. UM, THEY'RE REQUESTING TO RELAX THAT REQUIREMENT FOR BUILDING WALLS NOT VISIBLE FROM A PUBLIC STREET. SO THERE ARE CASES LIKE THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE INTERIOR COURTYARD AREAS, UM, ONES THAT, AREAS THAT FACE THE INTERIOR OF THE PROPERTY THAT THEY WANNA HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY AS THEY'RE LOOKING AT THEIR, THEIR PROJECT. THE AREAS HIGHLIGHTED IN RED ARE THE AREAS THAT THEY HAVE INDICATED TO. THEY INTEND TO MEET THAT CODE FULLY. UM, AND THEN WE'LL BE LOOKING FOR SOME FLEXIBILITY ON THE OTHER BUILDING ELEVATIONS. SO, UM, HERE IS A SUMMARY REGARDING THE ITEMS THAT ARE BEING, UH, REQUESTED. THE FOUR ITEMS THAT ARE PART OF THE EXCEPTIONS THAT THEY'RE, UH, THE SPECIAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN REQUEST. SO AGAIN, THE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS, STREET SCAPE REQUIREMENTS, THAT BUILDING LENGTH AND SEPARATION AND BUILDING MATERIALS ITEMS. UM, AND SO AGAIN, JUST TO HIGHLIGHT THAT, UH, THEY HAVE, UM, PROPOSED THE RELOCATION OF THAT EAST WEST CONNECTION TO THE SOUTHERN END OF THE PROPERTY FOR THE TRAIL TO ACCESS THE TRAIL, UM, AND THEN ALLOWING THEIR EXISTING STREET SCAPE TO REMAIN, UM, AND THEN TO ALLOW FOR THEIR BUILDING LENGTH AS, AS PROPOSED ALONG ARAPAHOE. AND THEN, UM, RELAXING THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE BUILDING WALLS NOT VISIBLE FROM A PUBLIC STREET. SO WHEN THIS PROJECT WENT TO THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION, UM, ON JANUARY 7TH, THERE WAS NO PUBLIC COMMENT. WE DID HAVE ONE COMMENT THAT, UM, WAS PROVIDED PREVIOUS TO THE MEETING. THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED SEVEN ZERO TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL. AND SO THE CITY COUNCIL, YOUR ACTION TONIGHT IS TO, UM, YOU CAN APPROVE THE REQUEST AS PRESENTED, APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS OR AMENDED CONDITIONS, OR DENY THE REQUEST. AND AGAIN, THAT APPLIES. YOU HAVE, UM, THE [01:10:01] TWO ITEMS, THE ACTUAL SPECIAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN REQUEST, AND THE ORDINANCE, UM, THAT, SO THERE'LL BE TWO MOTIONS. THANK YOU, AMBER. UM, MS. JUSTICE, YOU HAVE QUESTION FOR STAFF? UH, I DO, UH, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE BUILDING MATERIALS. UM, THE CHART IS REALLY HELPFUL THAT YOU HAD UP THERE A MINUTE AGO. I, I THINK THE, THE PROPOSAL'S VAGUE. YOU EXPAND A LITTLE BIT ON WHAT RELAX REQUIREMENT, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? UM, ARE WE GONNA ALLOW 10% OR YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT EXACTLY UM, ARE WE, ARE WE ALLOWING, UH, IF WE WERE TO PASS THIS, UM, IT, SO WITH THIS PROJECT, WE DON'T HAVE THE CHANCE TO ENFORCE ON IT, JUST AS PART OF THE WAY THAT THE CODE IS SET UP, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE REQUESTING WITH FLEXIBILITY AND THEY, UM, THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND THE ARCHITECT IS, SO THEY MAY BE ABLE TO SPEAK THAT A LITTLE MORE SPECIFICALLY. SO THEY, WE DID HAVE THE INFORMATION THAT THEY WERE PROVIDED, THESE ARE THE SPECIFIC WALL FACES THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING TO MEET THAT STANDARD. AND SO THE OTHER FACES, THEY WOULD BE REQUESTING THAT RELAXED STANDARD. SO OKAY. YEAH, THE APPLICANT WOULD BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT. THANK YOU, MAYOR PROT. THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION DETAIL. UH, COULD YOU GO TO, UH, SLIDE 17, IF YOU CAN EXPLAIN A LITTLE MORE MM-HMM . THAT STREET SCAPES REQUIREMENTS, NEW SIDEWALKS, TREES. SO THE PROPOSED IS THAT THEY WOULD NOT DO ANYTHING, JUST LEAVE THOSE THING AS IS MM-HMM . YEAH, THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. BUT WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, IT'S BETTER. IT'S, IT'S GOOD TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS, AS IS. I SEE THE PICTURE MM-HMM . I'VE WALKED THAT WAY. I'VE, YOU KNOW, MULTIPLE TIMES. UH, AND, UH, THE SIDEWALK CONDITION IS PRETTY GOOD, BUT IT'S NOT THE CONDITION ONLY. THERE IS SOME OTHER CODE AND OTHER REQUIREMENTS THAT HAS CHANGED SINCE IT WAS BUILT IN 1985. MM-HMM . THE CHANGES ARE ON THE SIDEWALK WIDTH. UH, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE WIDTH OF THE SIDEWALK EXISTING IT IS? UM, IT'S PRETTY MUCH FOUR FEET, FOUR FEET. AND OUR, THE CODE DOES, UM, THE NEW CODE, IT DOES PREFER FIVE FEET TO EIGHT FEET. YEAH. SO NEW CODE IS MINIMUM FIVE FEET. UH, AND YOU KNOW, HONESTLY SPEAKING, I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY OTHER CITY. THEY WOULD, THEY WOULD PUT THEIR FOOT DOWN, SAY, YOU KNOW, WE, YOU HAVE TO CHANGE THAT TO FIVE FEET, BUT IF WE, IF YOU CHANGE THAT TO FIVE FEET, WHAT IMPACT THAT WILL HAVE, BECAUSE YOU HAVE THREE FEET AT THE AHO SIDE, YOU HAVE TO KEEP THAT MM-HMM . UH, FROM THE STREET BACK OF THE CAR AND THEN PUT THAT, AND THEN IT'LL GO TOWARDS THE, UH, PROPERTY RIGHT OF QUAIL LINE. SO PUTTING A FIVE FEET, YOU ARE LOOKING AT ADDING ANOTHER FEET, UH, AND I SEE THAT TREES WOULD BE ALL, THE MATURE TREE WOULD BE IN A GOOD SHAPE. YEAH. THIS PICTURE, SO THERE, THERE ARE ROOM STILL TO PUT, YOU KNOW, FIVE FEET SIDEWALK AND ALSO THE RAMP, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE RAMP ALSO NEED TO BE, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MEET ALL THE NEW WASTE REQUIREMENT. SO HOW DO YOU, CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT? IF WE DON'T FOLLOW THE FIVE FEET, WHAT ARE THE, YOU KNOW, LIKE, YOU KNOW, THAT, UM, WHAT WE ARE SACRIFICING MM-HMM . YEAH. IT IS, IT IS A NARROWER SIDEWALK. THE IDEA WITH THE FIVE FEET IS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A COMFORTABLE WALKING SPACE. UM, THE, THE AREA THAT, UM, PROVIDING THE PARK STRIP AREA TO CREATES A BUFFER FROM THE ROADWAY TRAFFIC. UM, SO THEY, SO THEY ARE, UH, PROVIDING, SO DOING A WIDER SIDEWALK, THEY WOULD HAVE TO, UM, MOVE INTO ONE OF THOSE GREEN SPACE AREAS TO DO, TO DO ADDITIONAL SIDEWALK WITH, I MEAN, YEAH, THEY, THEY HAVE TO PUT NEW BUSHES DEFINITELY ALONG THE WRAP HOLE. YES. YEAH. SO THEY'RE REQUESTING THAT, THAT EXCEPTION TO THAT FIVE FOOT WIDTH TO KEEP THE EXISTING FOUR FEET, UM, BECAUSE OF THE EXISTING GREEN SPACE THAT'S ON BOTH THE ROADSIDE AND THE PEDESTRIAN AND THE PROPERTY SIDE TREES. I MAY TO, I THINK, I THINK THE POINT OF THE, OF THIS, UH, REQUESTING THIS DEVIATION IS TO TRY TO, UM, MAINTAIN AS MANY OF THE MATURE TREES AS POSSIBLE. IF, IF THEY BEGIN EXCAVATING IN GOING A FOOT INTO, FOR INSTANCE, A FOOT TO THE SHON ARAPAHO, WHERE YOU SEE THE TREE CANOPIES, THEY, THEY, THEY CLEARLY, UM, EXTEND OVER THE SIDEWALK, IF NOT INTO THE STREET. THE ROOT SYSTEM DOES THE SAME THING. AND SO I THINK BY, I THINK OUR, OUR, IF THE GOAL, WHICH WE HEAR OFTEN IS, AND THE GOAL OF THIS PROJECT IS TO MAINTAIN AS MANY OF THE MATURE TREES AS POSSIBLE. SO WE DON'T LOSE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DO RISK LOSING THEM IF WE BEGIN EXCAVATING. PARTICULARLY IF IT'S, IF IT'S JUST TO GAIN A FOOT. UM, IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE GONNA GO INTO THE PROPERTY, UM, YOU [01:15:01] KNOW, AS YOU KNOW, BEING AN ENGINEER, YOU DON'T EXCAVATE JUST TO THE FIVE FOOT. YOU HAVE TO GO PROBABLY ANOTHER FOOT IN TO BE ABLE TO KIND OF DIG DEEP ENOUGH AND TO CREATE, UM, A, A, A, ANOTHER, UM, FOUNDATION TO PUT THE REBAR ON. AND, AND SO I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S A TIGHT, IT'S A TIGHT AREA WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT. UM, I THINK REALLY THE MAIN GOAL WAS TO MAINTAIN THE TREES. THE, UM, APPLICANT, WE HAVE ALREADY TALKED TO THE APPLICANT ABOUT REPLACING TRIP HAZARDS, REPLACING AREAS WHERE THE SLOPE IS NOT IN, UM, IS NOT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE, UH, THE, UM, STANDARDS ANYMORE. AND ABOUT UPGRADING FOR A DA AND DOING THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. BUT I MEAN, IF WE WANTED TO JUST REPLACE, YOU KNOW, UM, TIP TO STERN THE SIDEWALK, I THINK IT'S JUST A RECOGNITION THAT THERE COULD BE SOME IMPACT TO THE TREES BECAUSE OF THE EXCAVATION THAT WOULD BE NEEDED TO DO THAT. YEAH. WELL, I MEAN, MOVING ONE FEET FOR THE SIDEWALK, YOU KNOW, I DO THIS THING A LOT, THESE KIND OF THINGS, UH, BY LOOKING AT THIS SIDE, THE TREES ARE GONNA BE OKAY, I HAVE TO DO THE BUSHES IS, UH, FIVE FEET REQUIREMENT IS NOT JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, JUST TO HAVE ANOTHER FOOT. THERE IS A REASON FOR THAT. UH, IF SOMEONE TAKES A WHEELCHAIR AND OTHER THINGS, AND IT'S DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO TURN AROUND AND BUSY STREET NOT HAVING THAT THING. IT'S, IT IS, IT'S A CHALLENGING THING, YOU KNOW, BUT AGAIN, THERE WOULD BE LIKE 400 PLUS FAMILY IS GONNA MOVE INTO THAT AREA IF IT GETS APPROVED. AND THAT'S GONNA BE, THEY, THEY WOULD MANAGE IT, DO IT, BUT THEY WOULD KNOW THAT. THEY WOULD NOT KNOW THAT THEY COULD HAVE SOMETHING BETTER. SO IT'S, IT IS, UH, I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING PROBABLY NEED TO BE LOOKED AT A LITTLE MORE CLOSELY, I THINK. UH, THINK ABOUT IT. THANK YOU COUNCILMAN DORIAN. THANK YOU. I JUST WANNA MAKE A COMMENT ON THE SIDEWALK. UH, YOU KNOW, AS I WOULD TOO PREFER A FIVE FOOT, UH, SIDEWALK, YOU KNOW, THIS IS CONSIDERED FLAT WORK, SO THERE, YOU KNOW, THE DEPTH OF THAT CONCRETE'S NOT, UH, TOO DEEP. BUT IF YOU DID WANT TO ADD AN ARCHITECTURAL DETAIL ON THE SIDE TO CREATE THAT FIVE FOOT, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD PUT IN SOME, UH, STAMPED OR, UH, INFILL, UH, WITH SOME TYPE OF, UH, GRAVEL OR, UH, GRANITE OR, OR SOME TYPE OF PEBBLED AGGREGATE, UH, TO EXPAND IT, TO ILLUMINATE OR TO ELIMINATE THAT FIVE FOOT. I KNOW WE'RE NOT GETTING INTO DESIGN TONIGHT. I JUST TRYING TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THE FIVE FOOT, THOUGH OBVIOUSLY IT'S PREFERRED. MY QUESTION IS ON THE RELAXED MATERIALS, WAS THAT FOR ALL OF THE PERIMETER AND INTERIOR WALLS, OR IS THAT PRIMARILY FOR THE INTERIOR COURTYARDS? UM, FOR ANY OF THE PRIMARILY FOR THE INTERIOR COURTYARDS, BUT FOR ANY OF THEIR, THE WALL FACES NOT, NOT HIGHLIGHTED IN RED ON THIS SLIDE. OKAY. SO FOR ANY OF THE NON-ST. STREETT FACING OKAY. NON-ST FACING SIDES. I JUST WANTED TO GET CLARIFICATION ON THAT. SO, 'CAUSE YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE THAT. YEAH. THAT'S THE IDEA THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING. YES. OKAY. THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MR. BARRIOS. THANK YOU MAYOR. UH, AMBER ON THIS, HELP ME AT THE BOTTOM ON THE SOUTH END OF THAT. I SEE IT'S PROPOSED. THERE'S A PROPOSED PATHWAY, CORRECT? THAT COMES OFF THE TRAIL OR WHAT'S PROPOSED DOWN THERE? YEAH. YEAH. THIS IS THE PROPOSED EAST WEST PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION. SO YEAH, THE SIDEWALK THAT CONNECTS AT GROVE ROAD AND THEN, UH, MEANDERING SIDEWALK THAT COMES THROUGH AND WOULD CONNECT TO THE SPECIAL SITE. SO IS THAT ONE THEY'RE PUTTING IN? ARE WE PUTTING IN AND IS THAT GONNA CONNECT BE FOUR FEET AS AS WELL? THERE'S NOTHING THERE CURRENT, CORRECT. THEY'RE, THEY'RE PROPOSING IT IN LIEU OF, UM, A MID-BLOCK SIDEWALK. OKAY. SO A SIDEWALK THAT WOULDN'T GO ANYWHERE. THEY'RE PROPOSING TO DO A TO THAT THEY WOULD INSTALL A SIDEWALK ON THAT SOUTH END OF THE PROPERTY. HOW, HOW WIDE IS THAT SIDEWALK, AMBER? UH, IT, I DON'T HAVE A GRACIOUS CONCEPTUAL AT THIS, THIS POINT. I, AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, TO BE HONEST, THE WIDTH OF THE SIDEWALK IS REALLY MY BIGGEST CONCERN AS WELL. JUST 'CAUSE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE LIVING THERE. I'M THINKING DOG WALKING, PEOPLE ON BIKES, YOU KNOW, KIDS, WHATEVER. UM, I'M GUESSING IT'S A LOT MORE DOG WALKING AND THAT KIND OF STUFF THAN THE REAL KIDS BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE APARTMENTS. BUT, UM, I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT WIDENING SIDEWALKS AND I KNOW WE AS A CITY ARE WORKING THROUGHOUT, SO THAT IS A CONCERN, UH, ESPECIALLY AS WE ENVISION WHAT'S COMING NORTH OF THERE, UM, INTO THE FUTURE AND HOW THAT CONNECTS. I HAD HEARD THAT THERE WAS SOME TALK ABOUT, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A QUESTION FOR YOU GUYS OR FOR THE, UH, APPLICANT WHEN THEY COME UP, BUT IS THERE, TALK ABOUT A CROSSWALK? UM, THE APPLICANT'S GONNA ADDRESS THAT. THE APPLICANT'S GONNA ADDRESS THAT. OKAY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. YEAH. YEAH. AND I DO, UM, COULD SHOW THE ON GROVE ROAD THERE IS AN EXISTING BIKE LANE. SO IT WAS, IT, THAT WAS THE PLAN FOR THIS, [01:20:01] THIS ROADWAY AND THAT, THAT IS INSTALLED. IT'S EXISTING. OKAY. THANK YOU AMBER. SO YOU HAVE NO MORE QUESTIONS. WE ASK THE APPLICANT TO PLEASE COME FORWARD AND, UH, PRESENT AND OR ANSWER QUESTIONS, PLEASE. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UH, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS MATT BRENDA, 29 99 OLYMPUS BOULEVARD, SUITE TWO 40, DALLAS, TEXAS 7 5 0 1 9. UH, HERE REPRESENTING LEGACY PARTNERS. APPRECIATE YOUR YOUR TIME. UH, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW WHO LEGACY PARTNERS MIGHT BE, WE ARE A MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPER, UH, NATIONWIDE. WE HAVE SEVEN REGIONAL OFFICES, UM, HIGHLIGHTED HERE. AND DALLAS BEING ONE OF THE MAJOR REGIONAL, UH, CENTERS THAT WE HAVE. UM, WE HAVE THE, THE WAY WE DO BUSINESS IS THROUGH STRONG RELATIONSHIPS WITH CITIES THAT WE WANT TO DO, UH, LOTS OF BUSINESS WITH. RICHARDSON BEING ONE OF THE CITIES THAT I'VE HAD THE GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO DO LOTS OF BUSINESS WITH. SO WHEN YOU, UH, LOOK AT SOME OF THE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE'VE DONE IN, IN RICHARDSON, I'VE HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF BEING INVOLVED WITH FIVE OTHER APARTMENT COMMUNITIES AND ABOUT 2200 APARTMENT HOMES BEING DELIVERED TO THE CITIZENS OF RICHARDSON. AND, UH, EXCITED TO BE PART OF THIS ONE AS WELL. SO APPRECIATE THAT. UM, WE, OVER OUR YEARS, WE WERE FOUNDED IN THE 1960S, SO, UH, QUITE A LONG LENGTH OF, OF SERVICE THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, UH, DELIVERING HOMES. AND WE'VE DELIVERED OVER 81,000 HOMES OVER THAT, UH, OVER THAT PERIOD ACROSS THE COUNTRY, AND CURRENTLY MANAGING ABOUT 11,000 HOMES ACROSS THE COUNTRY. THIS IS JUST, UH, A LITTLE CLIP OF THE OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT I'VE HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF DELIVERING TO RICHARDSON. UM, THE LATEST BEING THE OVATION AT GALLATIN PARK, WHICH IS RIGHT BY THE RENAISSANCE HOTEL AND CATTYCORNER TO THE EISMAN CENTER. I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME QUESTIONS ON MATERIALS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I KNOW IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, STATE LAW, YOU KNOW, PROVIDES THAT. THERE'S NOT REALLY ENFORCEMENT ON THAT. WE WANTED TO BE UPFRONT AND HONEST ABOUT WHAT WE'RE COMMITTED TO, AND WE ARE COMMITTED TO THAT 75% ALONG THE STREET. AND JUST ANSWER THAT QUESTION, YOU KNOW, THE QUALITY YOU SEE HERE IS THE QUALITY WE'RE GOING TO DELIVER WITH OVATION. UM, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SOME LOWER PERCENTAGES THAN WHAT IS ON THERE, BUT I CAN PROMISE THEY WILL BE, UH, ELEVATIONS THAT WE WOULD BE PROUD OF OR WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO LEASE TO THE RENT LEVELS THAT WE'RE PROJECTING TO LEASE HERE. SO, WANTED TO SET YOUR MIND AT EASE THERE. UM, SO, UH, AGAIN, UH, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE COMPANY OR, UM, OR OUR RELATIONSHIP OVER THE YEARS WITH RICHARDSON, THINGS WE'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN, HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS, BUT WANTED TO TURN IT OVER TO BRIAN MCNALLY TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE PROJECT ITSELF. THANK YOU, MATT. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS, BRIAN MCNALLY, LEGACY PARTNERS, 29 99 OLYMPUS BOULEVARD, SUITE TWO 40, DALLAS, TEXAS 7 5 0 1 9. UM, AMBER DID A GREAT JOB EARLIER PROVIDING A PROJECT OVERVIEW AS WELL AS OUTLINING THE, UH, SPECIAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN REQUESTS. AND I'LL TRY TO ADD SOME CONTEXT TO THAT. UH, BUT SHE DID A THOROUGH JOB EARLIER. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PLANNING A HIGH END APARTMENT COMMUNITY WITH 443 APARTMENT HOMES FOR RENT. UH, UNIT MIX CONSISTS OF 72%, ONE BEDROOMS, 26%, TWO BEDROOMS, 2%, THREE BEDROOMS, UH, ALONG THE SITE PLAN. UM, GROUND FLOOR HOMES ON ARAPAHO AND GROVE HAVE FRONT, FRONT DOOR ACCESS, UH, OUT TO THE SIDEWALK AND THE STREET, AS WELL AS FRONT YARDS AT THOSE HOMES, UH, TO HELP ACTIVATE THE STREET. AND BY HAVING A 10 PLUS ACRE, UH, DEVELOPMENT SITE HERE, WE'VE GOT THE ABILITY TO OFFER DIFFERENT BUILDING TYPES TO, UH, THE RESIDENTS THAT WILL LIVE THERE. UP ON ARAPAHOE, IT'S A FOUR STORY, UH, APARTMENT BUILDING WITH STRUCTURED PARKING. THEN YOU'VE GOT TWO, THREE STORY BUILDINGS WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT SITE. AND THEN ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE SITE, ALONG GROVE WE'LL HAVE TWO STORY TOWN HOMES. UM, THE OVERALL PARKING COUNT, UH, IN THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT IS 632 PARKING SPACES, WHICH PROVIDES A 1.42 SPACES PER HOME, UH, RATIO. UH, VEHICULAR [01:25:01] ACCESS TO THE SITE. UH, FOUR VEHICULAR ACCESS TO THE SITE WILL USE THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY LOCATIONS UP ON ARAPAHOE IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE SITE. AND THEN MIDWAY DOWN THE SITE, UH, JUST SOUTH OF ARAPAHOE, WE WILL USE THE EXISTING, UH, DRIVEWAY LOCATION ON GROVE. SO THOSE LOCATIONS ARE EXISTING, UM, AS WELL AS WE WILL USE THE EXISTING MEETING CUTS OUT ON ARAPAHOE TO THAT DRIVEWAY LOCATION. AND ON GROVE AS TO WE WON'T NEED ANY CHANGES, UH, TO TRAFFIC CIRCULATION IN THOSE LOCATIONS. UM, WE DID ALSO COMPLETE A TRAFFIC STUDY, AND OUR PROPOSED USE WILL GENERATE A, UH, UH, IT WILL REDUCE THE PEAK TRAFFIC OR PEAK HOUR TRAFFIC BY 40% COMPARED TO THE EXISTING OFFICE USE ON SITE. UM, LET'S SEE. IT WAS MENTIONED A LITTLE BIT AGO ABOUT, UH, THE CROSSWALK. WE DID MEET WITH THE, UH, HIGHLAND TERRACE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OR REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE ASSOCIATION. UM, AND THERE, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT CAME OUTTA THAT MEETING WAS THEY WANTED, UH, EVEN THOUGH TRAFFIC WILL BE REDUCED WHEN YOU COMPARE TO THE EXISTING USE, UH, THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT POTENTIAL TRAFFIC THAT'S GOING SOUTH ON GROVE. CURRENTLY, THERE'S ONE, UH, CROSSWALK LOCATION AT LASALLE AND GROVE, UH, THAT'S, I'D SAY LIGHTLY MARKED. UM, AND SO, UH, WE'LL, WE'RE, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE COMMITTED TO WORK WITH THE CITY AS WELL AS TRAFFIC OPERATIONS AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO COME UP WITH A PLAN FOR THESE CROSSWALK LOCATIONS, WHETHER IT'S BEEFING UP SIGNAGE, ADDING ANOTHER CROSSWALK THAT'S ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PARK, UH, GOING FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ACROSS GROVE. UH, WE WILL DO THAT AS WE WORK THROUGH SITE PLAN, APPROVAL PROCESS AND PERMITTING. UM, AND THEN I KNOW THE QUESTIONS THAT JUST CAME OUT WERE ABOUT THE, UH, SIDEWALK. OUR MAIN INTENT REALLY IS TO, TO SAVE THE EXISTING MATURE TREES. THEY'RE ON ARAPAHOE AND GROVE AND THAT REQUEST CAME UP. 'CAUSE THE STREET TYPOLOGY IN THE PD SHOWS THE TREE LANDSCAPING HAPPENING BETWEEN THE STREET AND THE SIDEWALK. AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE ASKING TO CHANGE IT TO USE THE EXISTING TREES AS OPPOSED TO TAKING THOSE DOWN AND PUTTING IN THE NEW TREES. UH, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE, MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY, BUT THEY WON'T BE AS MATURE AS, AS WHAT'S THERE TODAY. SO, UH, IT'S AN EFFORT TO, TO, TO REALLY MAINTAIN THOSE TREES. AND, YOU KNOW, THE EXISTING SIDEWALK WE CAN GO TO, TO FIVE FEET, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT THAT MAY PROBABLY IMPACT SOME OF THAT VEGETATION. THE LOWER VEGETATION THAT'S THERE TODAY, BUSHES, UH, AND SHRUBS THAT ARE ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE. UM, BUT REALLY THE INTENT WAS ABOUT THE TREES AND, AND NOT AVOIDING MAKING THE SIDEWALK COMPLY WITH WHAT THE CITY REQUIREMENTS ARE. UM, AND THEN I DO, WE DO HAVE SOME RENDERINGS HERE. SO THIS IS THE MAIN ARRIVAL POINT OFF OF ARAPAHO AT THE, THE MAIN ENTRANCE. UH, THAT'S OUR LEASING OFFICE THERE IN THE CORNER. UH, AGAIN, ON ON AT THIS ELEVATION, WE'D BE COMPLYING OR EXCEEDING THE, THE CITY REQUIREMENTS ON THE PRIMARY MATERIALS. THIS IS JUST A RENDERING OF THE MIDBLOCK LOCATION ALONG ARAPAHO. UM, YOU COULD SEE SOME OF THE YARDS AND THE GATED, UH, ENTRIES THAT WOULD GO TO INDIVIDUAL HOMES ON ARAPAHOE. HERE'S KIND OF A, A, YOU KNOW, A FULL ELEVATION ALONG ARAPAHOE, UH, PROVIDING SOME CONTEXT ON THE MATERIALS THAT WE'RE PLANNING TO USE. AND RIGHT HERE IS THE, UH, NORTHEAST CORNER AT GROVE IN ARAPAHOE. AGAIN, CONTINUING ON THE PRIMARY MATERIALS, TURNING THE CORNER RIGHT THERE, UH, AS WELL AS THE, UH, RESIDENT FRONT DOOR ACCESS OUT TO THE STREET AND SIDEWALK, AND THEN FURTHER SOUTH ON GROVE. THOSE ARE THE TWO STORY TOWN HOMES THAT, UH, IN OUR MIND PROVIDE, UH, APPROPRIATE SCALE AS YOU MOVE AWAY FROM THE ACCESS CORRIDOR OF ARAPAHOE DOWN TOWARDS THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO, UM, BUT I'LL STOP THERE, UH, IN THE INTEREST OF TIME AND WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. UH, I WILL ADD THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE EXCITED TO DEVELOP ANOTHER, UH, SUCCESSFUL PROJECT WITH CITY OF RICHARDSON, AND WE'RE EXCITED TO BE, UH, A CATALYST PROJECT, UH, WITHIN THE SUBSTATION AREA OF THE INNOVATION CORRIDOR. THANK YOU. BRIAN. MATT, MAYOR PRO TIM. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. UH, WONDERFUL. YOU'RE TRYING TO SET THE TREE. UH, YOU KNOW, THE PICTURE [01:30:01] LOOKS GREAT. ELEVATION LOOKS GREAT. I'M GLAD THAT YOU WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION TO ADDRESS SOME OF THEIR CONCERNS. UH, NOW I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE SOME, NOT JUST BEAUTIFUL TREE, WONDERFUL TREE INSIDE THE PROPERTY. SO HOW MANY YOU ARE SAVING AND HOW MANY ARE TAKING OUT THOSE ARE LOOKS LIKE ANTIQUE TREE, LIKE HUGE. BEAUTIFUL. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT. IT'S THE TREES ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE AND, YOU KNOW, WE'LL MAKE OUR BEST EFFORTS TO SAVE AS ALL OF 'EM IF WE CAN. THE ONES THAT DO END UP GETTING IMPACTED, WHETHER IT'S THE ROOT ZONE OR, OR SOME OTHER THING CAUSES THEM TO NOT SURVIVE OR MAKE IT THROUGH, THEN WE WOULD COMPLY WITH THE CITY TREE REQUIREMENTS IN THOSE LOCATIONS. OKAY? OKAY. NOW THERE IS TWO, TWO THINGS. ONE IS THAT ABSOLUTELY, I'M GONNA MEET THE REQUIREMENT. WHAT CITY WILL ASK YOU TO, TO DO THE MITIGATION. UH, BUT THAT WILL TAKE LIKE 50 YEARS TO GROW THOSE TREE MM-HMM . UH, BUT THAT WHAT THE TREE THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, THAT'S BETWEEN THE, YOU HAVE A USHIP BUILDING RIGHT NOW AND THERE ARE LIKE, THAT'S CORRECT. I DON'T REMEMBER HOW MANY. THERE, THERE ARE LIKE SOME HUGE TREE, PROBABLY ABOUT 10 OF THEM AT LEAST. UH, THE INSIDE THAT AREA. UH, SO ARE YOU SAVING THOSE OR THOSE ARE GONNA BE HISTORY? WE, WE ARE GONNA ATTEMPT TO, BECAUSE THAT CENTER BUILDING THAT'S, UH, CALL IT U-SHAPED MM-HMM . UH, THAT, THAT COURT, THE CURRENT COURTYARD TODAY, THOSE TREES LIE WITHIN THAT COURTYARD. SO THAT ISN'T OUR, OUR INTENT TO SAVE THAT. BUT IT'S SUCH A TIGHT COURTYARD. ONCE THE HEAVY DEMOLITION EQUIPMENT GETS IN THERE, I, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T SAY THAT. SO YOU PROBABLY MAKE IT THROUGH ABOUT TWO, TWO TREE PROBABLY WILL BE SAVED FROM THAT 10 TREE. I WISH YOU HAD A PICTURE OF THOSE TREE, LIKE, YOU KNOW, LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, 50 FEET TALL TREE, PROBABLY. THOSE ARE, UH, HUGE. I, I WISH SOME OF YOU HAVE GONE AND SEE THAT IF YOU TAKE THAT DOWN, PROBABLY WE CAN GO AND TAKE PICTURES FOR THE HISTORY, BUT I WISH YOU CAN, YOU CAN SAVE SOME OF THOSE TREE AND UH, BUT IT MAY NOT BE ABLE TO. BUT THE TREE THAT YOU HAVE ALONG THE ARAPAHO AND UH, GROVE, THOSE ARE LIVE OAKS, I BELIEVE. MM-HMM . AND THOSE ARE NOT AS BEAUTIFUL AS THE TREE THAT YOU HAVE INSIDE THOSE U-SHAPED AREA. NOTHING COMPARE. UH, BUT I WOULD STILL SAY THAT IF SAVING THE TREE WAS YOUR REALLY MAIN PURPOSE TO SET THE SIDE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY YOU WANT TO NOT DO THE SIDEWALK. YOU KNOW, I WOULDN'T MIND TAKE THE FLY BOOK OUT, TRY TO TREE SAVE ONE OF THOSE NICE TREE, UH, BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GONNA FIND THAT TREE EASILY. BUT FOR THE SIDEWALK, IF YOU CAN AT LEAST AIM, YOU KNOW, TO INCREASE THE WEIGHT OF THE SIDEWALK TO MEET THE STATE REQUIREMENT. A DA REQUIREMENT, IT'S NOT THE CITY REQUIREMENT, IT'S THE A DA REQUIREMENT. UH, ARE YOU DOING ANY SIDEWALK CONSTRUCTION WITHIN YOUR PROPERTY? I MEAN, IN THE PUBLIC PLACE IT'D BE OUT ON ARAPAHOE AND GROVE. AND THEN, UH, ONE OF OUR SPECIAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN REQUESTS IS MOVING THAT EAST WEST CONNECTION, MOVING IT TO THE SOUTH END OF THE SITE. AND, YOU KNOW, IF THE CITY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT GO IN, I MEAN, RIGHT NOW THE SPECIAL SITE IS NOT IN PLACE TODAY, BUT THAT, THAT'S THE INTENT TO PROVIDE THAT, YOU KNOW, PEDESTRIAN BIKE ACCESS OFF OF GROVE TO THE SPECIAL SITE. IF THEY, UH, WOULD LIKE THE SIDEWALK IN PLACE, THEN WE'LL MAKE THAT A PART OF OUR PLAN. OKAY. I MEAN, IF YOU CAN LIKE, TRY TO MAKE THE SIDEWALK FIVE FEET, IF, IF YOU FIND THAT THAT TREE IS A CONFLICT, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE PEOPLE WOULD UNDERSTAND THEN WALK AROUND THE SIDEWALK, I MEAN TREE TO GET THE FIVE FEET. SO AT LEAST, AT LEAST YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE WILL ENJOY WALKING. BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU PUT IN FRONT OF PEOPLE, AND IF IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE LOVE OR ENJOY DOING IS GONNA BE JUST ANOTHER PIECE THAT THEY ARE. BUT NOBODY'S GONNA BE USING THAT MUCH. SO IT'S LIKE ENCOURAGING BY DOING SOMETHING. RIGHT. UH, BUT THOSE SHADE WOULD BE REALLY GREAT IF YOU HAVE THE SIDEWALK AND SIP THE TREE SIDEWALK. THOSE ARE BEAUTIFUL SHADE TREE. I MEAN, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER I LOVE THAT MUCH OR NOT. I LOVE THE COLORFUL TREE. UH, BUT THOSE ARE ALREADY MATURE TREE. SO IF YOU HAVE THE SIDEWALK CLOSER TO THE TREES, EVEN IF YOU CAN SET THE TREE, WHICH I BELIEVE PROBABLY YOU WOULD BE, UH, BUT IF YOU HAVE A CONFLICT AND THEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO PUT FOUR FEET, FIVE FEET THERE, LEAVE THAT WORK AROUND. WE DO THIS THING ALL THE TIME, BE CREATIVE. BUT, UH, THESE ARE THE SUGGESTION I THINK CITI CAN LOOK AT THAT. YOU GUYS CAN LOOK AT IT AND DO IT. UH, BUT THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE IMPORTANT. HAVING A, YOU KNOW, [01:35:01] DESCEND SIDEWALK RAMP, UH, EVEN THE SIDEWALK COULD HAVE LIKE STEEPER SLOPE THAT ACTUALLY REQUIRE BY, UH, BY THE A DA. SO THAT'S, THOSE ARE THE THINGS. YEAH. SO JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION. WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION, I THINK WHERE SLOPES ARE NOT IN ACCORDANCE WITH A DA, WHERE RAMPS ARE NOT IN ACCORDANCE WITH A DA, THE INTENT IS TO MAKE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS. I THINK WHAT WHAT WE GOT FROM THE APPLICANT WAS REPLACING THE SIDEWALK TIP, THE STERN. THERE WAS A GREATER RISK OF DAMAGING THE TREE ROOT SYSTEM AND LOSING SOME OF THE TREES. AND SO THAT'S A VALUE PROPOSITION. I MEAN, IF THE COUNCIL WANTS TO MAKE THAT A CONDITION THAT THEY REPLACE THE SIDEWALK TIP TO STERN AT, TO ADD THE FOOT, I, I THINK WE JUST GOTTA BE EYES OPEN. THERE'S A RISK ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, WITH, YOU KNOW, DAMAGING SOME OF THE ROOT SYSTEMS. I THINK THE APPLICANTS, THE APPLICANT WAS TRYING TO STRIKE THE BALANCE OF SAYING THEY WERE GONNA GO THROUGH AND UPGRADE THE EXISTING SIDEWALK. SO THAT DOES MEET CURRENT STANDARDS, UM, BUT NOT REPLACE IT ENTIRELY. YEAH, NO, ABSOLUTELY. MY POSITION IS NEVER REALLY, UH, YOU KNOW, TAKE THE TREE DOWN JUST BECAUSE OF FIVE FEET SIDEWALK. THAT'S MY SPECIFIC, MY POSITION. NOT JUST NECESSARILY AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, ALSO AS A ENGINEER, WE TRY TO WORK AROUND THE SITE, YOU KNOW, TREES TO SET THE TREE, BUT YOU HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN INTENTION OF DOING SO. BUT IF YOU DON'T, DON'T EVEN DO ANYTHING AND THINK THAT, OH, WE'RE GONNA BE DAMAGING THE TREE. UH, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE DO. WE ALWAYS TRY TO DO, UH, IMPROVE THE SIT AREA BY AT LEAST ATTEMPTING WITHOUT DAMAGING. MM-HMM . SO THAT'S ALL. I'M JUST RE UH, YOU KNOW, REQUESTING THIS IS SOMETHING THAT OF COURSE YOU CAN'T REALLY BRING THE BACKHOE AND START WORKING AND THEN THEY WILL JUST TAKE OUT EVERYTHING. SO YOU HAVE TO TELL SPECIFICALLY WHAT THE GUY NEED TO DO TO MAKE THAT SIDEWALK HAPPEN. IT DOESN'T HAPPEN. DOESN'T HAPPEN. BUT AT LEAST YOU WILL HAVE SOME PORTION, FIVE FEET, THEN YOU MIGHT HAVE TO GO NARROW FOUR FEET, OR YOU MAY HAVE TO GO A LITTLE BIT MEANDERING, TRY TO SET THE TREE. UH, BUT ABSOLUTELY, I MEAN, THIS IS NOT STRAIGHTFORWARD. UH, MAYOR PRO TEM, THE ONE THING YOU MAY WANT TO CONSIDER IS THEN YOU'RE GONNA CREATE TRIP HAZARDS AS THAT SETTLES AND CHANGES. SO I'M NOT SURE YOU WANNA GO THAT DIRECTION. I WOULD, I WOULD CAUTION YOU, I'VE PUT IN A LOT OF SIDEWALKS AROUND HOSPITALS AND IF YOU TRY TO ADD ON AND DO THINGS LIKE THAT, YOU START CREATING TRIP HAZARDS 'CAUSE THINGS SETTLE AND YOU CREATE ALL KIND OF ISSUES ALONG THOSE LINES. SO ABSOLUTELY. BE CAUTION. BE CAUTIOUS WITH THAT. THAT'S ALL I WOULD SUGGEST. ABSOLUTELY. I HAVE DONE HUNDREDS OF THOUSAND LINEAR FEET OF SIDEWALK AND WHEN YOU HAVE MATCH YOUR TREE, YOU DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, ISSUE TYPICALLY. BUT IF YOU PUT A NEW TREE CLOSE TO THE SIDEWALK, AND ABSOLUTELY YOU WILL HAVE SOMETHING THAT, UH, PRETTY TODAY, BUT DOWN THE ROAD, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE ABSOLUTELY A TREE HAZARD AND IT'LL TAKE OUT THE WATER LINE SEW LINE SOMETIME. BUT ANYWAY, JUST JUSTICE POSITION. UH, THANK YOU MR. BARRIOS. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, FIRST I WANNA SAY THAT WHEN I SAW THE OUTLINE AND THE VARIED TYPES OF HOUSE, UM, HOUSING YOU HAVE HERE, I WAS EXCITED, UH, BECAUSE AT LIKE, AT LEAST SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THE COUNCIL, WE REALLY HAVEN'T SEEN THAT VARIETY. AND YOU DO HAVE A NICE PIECE OF LAND, AND I WAS, I WAS EXCITED TO SEE, OKAY, THERE'S VARIOUS OPTIONS WITH THE TUCK UNDER GARAGES. IT'S NOT JUST A, A STICK AND WRAP, YOU KNOW, UM, YOU'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS THERE. AND I, I REALLY WAS EXCITED TO SEE THAT. UH, AND I LIKE WHAT YOU DID THERE, GIVEN YOURSELF SOME FLEXIBILITY IN THE SOUTH END IN CASE THERE'S A, A, A NEED IN THE MARKET FOR MORE. RIGHT. UM, I'VE ALREADY SAID THE PIECE ABOUT THE SIDEWALK, AND I KNOW HE'S ALREADY SAID IT. IS IT A STICKING POINT FOR ME? THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY DECIDING, UH, FACTOR IN ITSELF, I DON'T THINK. UM, BUT I DO. THE ONLY QUESTION I REALLY HAVE, WHAT'S THIS, THIS POCKET PARK ON THE WESTERN SIDE. WHAT IS THAT? 'CAUSE IT'S ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE FENCE. IS THAT OURS? IS THAT PART OF YOUR, WHAT'S THE, I THINK THAT'S THE TRAIN. IS THAT THE RAIL? THAT WAS PART OF THE CONCEPTUAL WORK THAT WAS DONE FOR THE SPECIAL SITE. OKAY. BUT AGAIN, THAT'S RIGHT. NOW THAT'S, THAT'S JUST CONCEPTUAL. OKAY. BUT THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF CITY PROPERTY, IS THAT WHAT, WHAT'S LABELED AS POCKET PARK IS ON THE PROPERTY. OKAY. UM, NOT THE CITY PROPERTY. AND THAT'S JUST, UM, PART OF OUR OPEN SPACE, BUT IT WAS ACTIVATING IT AS OPPOSED TO JUST HAVING, THAT'S NOT LIKE A DOG PARK OR ANYTHING THAT YOU'RE CONCERNING PUTTING IN THERE. I WAS JUST GONNA ASK 'CAUSE I WAS LIKE, WELL, IT'S BEHIND A COMPACTOR, WHICH WAS KIND OF ODD PLACE TO PUT IT. I WAS JUST WONDERING ABOUT IT. IT WOULD JUST BE, UH, POCKET PARK BACK THERE. YES. OKAY. IF AND WHEN WE BECAME IN POSSESSION OF THE PROPERTY THAT'S LABELED SPECIAL SITE, I MEAN, I THINK THE IDEA WOULD BE WE COULD INCORPORATE THAT TO MAKE SOMETHING UNIQUE. BUT AGAIN, THAT'S NOT ON CITY [01:40:01] PROPERTY, BUT NEITHER IS THE SPECIAL SITE. LET'S JUST MAKE, MAKE CLEAR. WE DON'T CONTROL THAT. WE DON'T OWN THAT. THAT WORK IS CONCEPTUAL, UM, AS PART OF THE, UH, THE ARAPO COLLINS PD THAT WAS ADOPTED. GOT IT. YEAH. I SEE WHAT YOU'RE, OKAY. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFICATION. I THINK WE'RE GOOD COUNSEL. OKAY. THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH. IT'S POSSIBLE WE COULD HAVE TO CALL YOU BACK FOR QUESTIONS, BUT YOU MAY HAVE A SEAT AT THIS TIME. AT THIS TIME, WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. MS. EMER, ANY CARDS? I DON'T HAVE ANY SPEAKERS FOR THIS ONE, MAYOR. OKAY. BE LOOKING FOR A MOTION. MR. HUTCHIN WRITER MAYOR, MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE, THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING. MR. DORIAN, I'LL SECOND THAT. WE GOT A MOTION TO SECOND AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. ALL IN FAVOR? PUT YOUR HANDS PLEASE. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. COUNSEL, ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION QUESTIONS? MR. HUT? WRITER MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE PUBLIC HEARING ZONING FILE 24 34 AND APPROVE ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 45 31 BEFORE JUMP IN. OKAY. WE HOLD, HOLD THAT THOUGHT. WE GOT A LIGHT. ALRIGHT, MR. SHAS? THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. YEAH, DEFINITELY THE SIDEWALK IS NOT REALLY, UH, A HUGE POINT CO COMPARED TO THE, YOU KNOW, LARGE PROJECT THAT WE HAVE. BUT I THINK, UH, MOVING FORWARD I THINK WE NEED TO REALLY FOCUS ON SOME OF THE VARIANCE OR REQUESTS THAT WE SOMETIMES ASK, REQUEST TO KNOW EXACTLY WHY THAT WAS THERE AND WHY THAT'S SO IMPORTANT. UH, TRY TO ADDRESS THOSE THING EARLY. I'M SURE THAT THERE WAS THIS PROJECT ABSOLUTELY. IF I, I WAS A DESIGN ENGINEER, I WOULD HAVE DONE DIFFERENTLY. THE SIDEWALK WISE, UH, IS GOING TO ADD SOME COST. ABSOLUTELY. UH, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, BUT, YOU KNOW, SAVING SOME TREES, ABSOLUTELY THOSE ARE GOOD. BUT THAT'S NOT REALLY SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE CHANGING MY MIND JUST TO, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF THAT ISSUE, I WOULD NOT BE OPPOSING, UH, THIS PROJECT OVERALL, THIS PROJECT'S REALLY LOOK, LOOK GREAT. UH, I I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT. CLARIFY. THANK YOU, MS. JUSTICE, DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT? UH, YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY TO IF, IF, UM, COUNCILMAN HUTCHMAN, RIGHT? DO WE NEED, DO WE NEED TO ADD THE, THE CROSSWALK AS PART OF THE CONDITION? 'CAUSE I KNOW THAT'S IMPORTANT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. DO WE NEED TO ADD THAT TO THIS MOTION? I, I THINK THE APPLICANT'S AGREEABLE TO THAT. I THINK YOU COULD, UH, THE COUNCILMAN HU CAN SAY, UM, WITH THE CONDITION THAT THE DEVELOPER WORKED WITH THE CITY TO, UM, UH, FACILITATE A CROSSWALK AT A LOCATION TO BE DETERMINED. OKAY. HOLD RIGHT THERE KID. MR. DORIAN, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? NO, I WAS, I WAS JUST GONNA, ARE YOU GOOD, JENNIFER? OKAY. ALRIGHT, PLEASE GO AHEAD THEN. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ZONING FILE 24 34 WITH THE ADDITION OF THE DEVELOPER WORKING WITH THE CITY TO ADDRESS THE CROSSWALK, THE ADDITIONAL CROSSWALK AS WAS DISCUSSED THIS EVENING. AND ALSO APPROVE ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 45 31 AMENDING THE CONFERENCE OF ZONING ORDINANCE ON ZONING MAP. ALRIGHT, FIVE. WE HAVE A MOTION. THIS IS FINE. WE ALL GOOD? JUST TO CLARIFY, DO WE NEED TO CHANGE THE ORDINANCE NOW THAT WE'RE ADDING THAT IN THERE? OR IS IT GOOD TO GO? UH, THE ORDINANCE WILL BE UPDATED TO REFLECT THAT. YEAH. SO WE ARE NOT PASSING THE ORDINANCE TONIGHT? NO, YOU CAN PASS IT AND BEFORE, UM, IT IS EN ENROLLED, WE'LL CHANGE THE LANGUAGE TO INCLUDE THE SPECIAL CONDITION. OKAY. YEP. ALRIGHT. SO WE DO HAVE A MOTION. MR. DORIAN, I, I WAS JUST GONNA SECOND THAT. GOT A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? SHOW OF HANDS, PLEASE. OKAY, THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. [7. PUBLIC HEARING, ZONING FILE 24-31, AND CONSIDER ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE NO. 4530, AMENDING THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE AND ZONING MAP BY GRANTING A CHANGE IN ZONING BY GRANTING A SPECIAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO MODIFY THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS OF THE MAIN STREET/CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY FORM BASED CODE FOR 3.06 ACRES OF LAND LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF E. POLK STREET AND S. TEXAS STREET ZONED PLANNED DEVELOPMENT MAIN STREET/CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY (MAIN STREET SUB-DISTRICT). ] IT BRINGS US TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, PUBLIC HEARING ZONING FILE 24 31, CONSIDER ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 45 30, GRANTING A CHANGE IN ZONING FOR 3.06 ACRES OF LAY LOCATE THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF EAST POLK STREET AND SOUTH TEXAS STREET. MR. BAGER. THANK YOU MAYOR. MAYOR AND COUNSEL. UH, DEREK PETERS, OUR SENIOR PLANNER, IS GONNA LEAD THIS BRIEFING. UH, SUBSEQUENT TO HER BRIEFING. THE APPLICANT IS HERE, THEY HAVE A PRESENTATION, INCLUDING THE CONCEPTUAL RENDERINGS, TO, TO, UH, TO SHOW WITH YOU, AND THEN THEY'LL BE AVAILABLE TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE YOU OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. ERIC, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. SO THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL PERMIT TO ACCOMMODATE A 279 UNIT MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT LOCATED ON THE TWO BLOCKS SOUTH OF POLK STREET, NORTH OF KAUFMAN STREET ON THE EAST SIDE OF TEXAS STREET AND WEST OF GREENVILLE AVENUE. THE PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH AND EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED. RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH IS THE FUTURE. HOME OF THE NEST WELLNESS VILLAGE. ALSO TO THE SOUTH ARE SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTIES, AND TO THE WEST OF THIS PROPERTY IS THE DART RAIL AND THE CENTRAL HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL. SO THIS PROPERTY IS PART OF THE MAIN STREET CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY FORM BASED CODE THAT WAS ADOPTED IN [01:45:01] 2016, AND IT IS WITHIN THE MAIN STREET, MAIN STREET SUBDISTRICT OF THAT CODE. SHORTLY AFTER THAT CODE WAS ADOPTED, THE CITY ENGAGED WITH ARCHITECTS KEVIN SLOAN STUDIO TO FURTHER REFINE THE PLAN SPECIFICALLY FOR THE DOWNTOWN AREA, WHICH IS SHOWN IN THE BOUNDARIES IN WHITE HERE, UH, TO TAKE A LOOK AT HOW THE, UH, PLAN CAN BE IN, UH, IMPLEMENTED AND HOW THE FUTURE BUILT OUT CONDITIONS MAY LOOK ONCE THE PLAN IS CARRIED OUT. SO AS PART OF THAT DOWNTOWN CONCEPT PLAN STUDY, THEY FURTHER REFINED THE VISION FOR THIS AREA, UH, AND FURTHER REFINED IT AS A VISION, UH, FOR AN AREA THAT IS A DESTINATION FOR LOCAL RESIDENTS AND REGIONAL VISITORS TO DRIVE, PARK, WALK, SHOP, AND DINE AND GATHER. ALSO, AS PART OF THAT STUDY, UH, THIS CONCEPT PLAN WAS A RESULT. SO THIS IS ILLUSTRATION THAT WAS PROVIDED BY THE ARCHITECT, UH, THAT TOOK A LOOK AT WHAT THE NEW MAIN STREET CODE ENABLED FOR REDEVELOPMENT. AND IN LOOKING AT THIS PICTURE, THE SUBJECT SITE IS SHOWN IN RED. SO SINCE THAT PLAN WAS CARRIED OUT IN 2018, THE SUBJECT SITE, WHICH YOU SEE HERE, UH, WHICH IS COMPRISED OF 10 DIFFERENT PARCELS, UH, THE CITY AS WELL AS PRIVATE, THE PRIVATE DEVELOPER ACQUIRED VARIOUS PARCELS IN THIS AREA WITH THE INTENT TO CARRY OUT THE PLAN AND REDEVELOP THE AREA WHEN THE TIME WAS RIGHT. SO, AS I MENTIONED, THIS IS 10 INDIVIDUAL PARCELS. IT'S THREE ACRES IN TOTAL. SOME OF THESE ARE VACANT COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES. SOME ARE OCCUPIED COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES THAT INCLUDES STAYCATION COFFEE. ON THE TOP LEFT, UH, STAYCATION COFFEE HAS MADE PLANS TO RELOCATE TO FLOYD ROAD. UH, THIS ALSO INCLUDES A PARKING LOT AND SOME GREENFIELD UNDEVELOPED GREENFIELDS, AS WELL AS MCKINNEY STREET AND AS WELL AS TWO ALLEYS WITHIN THIS AREA THAT HAVE NOT YET BEEN ABANDONED. SO IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT, SO THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THIS SITE IS A SINGLE STORY BRICK OFFICE BUILDING. AND THAT IS NOT SUBJECT, UH, THAT IS NOT PART OF THE PROJECT AND IS NOT PART OF THE SUBJECT AREA. THESE ARE SOME SITE PHOTOS SHOWING SOME OF THE UNDEVELOPED PORTIONS OF THE SUBJECT AREA, SO THE PARKING LOT ON THE WEST AND THE UNDEVELOPED AREA TO THE EAST. THE ENVISION RICHARDSON PLAN WAS ADOPTED LAST YEAR AS AN UPDATE TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND IN THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, IT IDENTIFIED PLACE TYPE AREAS. THIS AREA WAS IDENTIFIED AS NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE, WHICH REINFORCED THE VISION THAT WAS FOUND IN THE MAIN STREET IN CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY CODE. THIS CALLS FOR MID-RISE BUILDINGS BEING TWO TO FIVE STORIES. IT CALLS FOR A MIX OF USES AND IT ALSO CALLS FOR MULTI-FAMILY BEING A PRIMARY USE IN THIS AREA. GOING BACK TO THE MAIN STREET CODE THAT WAS ADOPTED 2016 THAT APPLIES TO THIS AREA, MULTIFAMILY WAS ADOPTED AND AS AN ALLOWED USE GROUND FLOOR OR RETAIL AND MIXED USE IS NOT REQUIRED. AS PART OF THAT MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT, MULTIFAMILY IS REQUIRED TO BE DEVELOPED AT A DENSITY OF 40 UNITS TO THE ACRE AT MINIMUM. IN ADDITION, THE BLOCK, UH, LENGTH HAVE BEEN, THE BLOCK LENGTHS ARE LIMITED DEPENDING ON THE BLOCK. AND OTHER DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED IN THE CODE THAT ENCOURAGE AN ACTIVE STREETSCAPE AND PROMOTE WALKABILITY. SO HERE'S THE PROPOSED CONCEPT PLAN FOR THE SITE. SO AGAIN, THIS IS THREE ACRES. THEY'RE PROPOSING 279 UNITS. AVERAGE DWELLING UNIT SIZE HERE IS A HUNDRED 846 SQUARE FEET. THEY'RE PROPOSING 91 UNITS TO THE ACRE, SO IT CONFORMS WITH THE REQUIRED DENSITY. THEY'LL BE PROVIDING 419 PARKING SPACES WITHIN A FIVE LEVEL PARKING GARAGE. SO THIS IS A STRUCTURED PARKING GARAGE THAT IS WITHIN THE WRAP STYLE APARTMENT. IT WILL BE WRAPPED ON ALL FOUR SIDES. THEY WILL ALSO PROVIDE PARK BICYCLE PARKING AT 21 SPACES AS WELL AS AMENITY SPACE, UH, BEING 12,000 SQUARE FEET. AND THAT'S SHOWN IN PURPLE. ON THIS CONCEPT PLAN, THEY'LL PROVIDE OPEN SPACE, WHICH IS CLUSTERED ALONG THE NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE ALONG POLK STREET. THEY'LL ALSO PROVIDE A PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION FOR FOOT TRAFFIC TO GO FROM POLK STREET TO KAUFMAN STREET TO THE SOUTH AT THE MIDBLOCK POINT THAT'S SHOWN IN ORANGE. ON THE PLAN. I'LL ALSO POINT OUT THE TRASH ROOM IS SHOWN ON HERE ON THE SOUTHERN PROPERTY LINE ALONG KAUFMAN STREET. AND HERE I'LL GO OVER THE STREET [01:50:01] SCAPE PLAN. SO, AS PART OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE MAIN STREET CODE WITH REDEVELOPMENT, THE ADJACENT STREETS MUST BE, UH, ENHANCED AND MEET THE STREET SCAPE STANDARDS FOR POLK STREET TO THE NORTH. IT WILL ACTUALLY BE ENHANCED ON BOTH SIDES, THE SOUTH AND THE NORTH. SO IT'LL BE ENHANCED WITH SIX FOOT SIDEWALKS, LANDSCAPE ZONES, AND PAR PARALLEL PARKING ON EITHER SIDE OF THE ROAD AND A BIKE LANE ON EITHER SIDE OF THE ROAD, TEXAS STREET AND KAUFMAN STREET WILL ALSO BE ENHANCED WITH A SIX FOOT SIDEWALK. A LANDSCAPE BUFFER AND PARALLEL PARKING. AND NOT SHOWN ON HERE IS GREENVILLE, WHICH WILL BE ENHANCED AT THE BACK OF CURB WITH, UH, EIGHT FOOT SIDEWALK AND A LANDSCAPE BUFFER. SO THESE STREETSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WILL OCCUR ON ALL FOUR STREET FRONTAGES WILL IMPROVE THE, UH, WALKABILITY WITHIN THE AREA. IT WILL PROVIDE SIX TO EIGHT FOOT SIDEWALKS AS WELL AS STREET LINE STREETS, TREE LINE STREETS. THE PEDESTRIAN CORRIDOR WILL BE PROVIDED BETWEEN POLK AND KAUFMAN. AS I MENTIONED EARLIER ON THE CONCEPT PLAN, MCKINNEY STREET WILL BE CLOSED FOR THIS PROJECT, WHICH WILL ELIMINATE A TWO DRIVEWAYS, AND THAT WILL ELIMINATE, UH, ONE DRIVEWAY ALONG KAUFMAN, WHICH MAKES THE SIDEWALK NETWORK MORE CONNECTED IN THAT AREA. IN ADDITION, THE MULTIFAMILY RESIDENCE CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE CENTRAL TRAIL, WHICH IS ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST. SO THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. AS MENTIONED IN THE EARLIER CASE TONIGHT, THE SPECIAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN ALLOWS FOR FLEXIBILITY TO ADDRESS SPECIFIC MARKET OPPORTUNITIES AND CONTEXTS. THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED FIVE ITEMS AS, UH, PART OF THEIR SPECIAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, AND I WILL GO INTO THOSE. SO FIRST THEY'RE REQUESTING A, UH, RELIEF ON BUILDING HEIGHT LIMITATIONS. THIS BLOCK WITHIN THE MAIN STREET SUBDISTRICT IS LIMITED TO THREE STORIES TALL OR 45 FEET TALL AT THE HIGHEST, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING FOUR STORIES OR 54 FEET TALL AT THE HIGHEST ELEMENT. AND THIS IMAGE ILLUSTRATES THAT THE A PERSON STANDING AT STREET LEVEL WILL BE ABLE TO SEE TO THE 50 FOOT PARAPET AT THE TALLEST. UM, AS, AS THE HIGHEST ELEMENT THAT THEY COULD SEE FROM THE SEE FROM THE STREET IS THAT 50 FOOT PARAPET. SO THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING NINE FEET IN RELIEF FROM THE HEIGHT RESTRICTION. THEY ARE REQUESTING RELIEF FROM THE OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS. SO THE CODE REQUIRES 15% OF THE LOT BE PROVIDED AS PRIVATE OPEN SPACE, OR 8% OF THE LOT PROVIDED AS PUBLIC OPEN SPACE. THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED A COMBINATION OF 12.1% BETWEEN PRIVATE AND OPEN, PRIVATE AND PUBLIC OPEN SPACE. UM, AS I MENTIONED, MOST OF THE PUBLIC OPEN SPACE, IT WILL ALL BE CONCENTRATED ON THE NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE ALONG POLK, AS WELL AS PRIVATE OPEN SPACE, WHICH WILL BE PROVIDED WITH AN INTERIOR COURTYARD, WHICH WILL PROVIDE AMENITIES LIKE OUTDOOR SWIMMING POOL AND OTHER OUTDOOR AMENITIES FOR THE RESIDENTS. UM, SOMETHING ELSE THAT IS, UH, OCCURRING IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA IS THE INTERURBAN CORRIDOR LINEAR PARK, WHICH IS LOCATED NORTHWEST OF THIS SITE ACROSS MAIN STREET. IT'S A SHORT WALK ACROSS MAIN STREET, WHICH, UH, WILL SERVE AS THE OPEN SPACE AND THE PARK LAND FOR THE DOWNTOWN AREA. THIS SITE IS RELATIVELY CLOSE TO THAT NEW PARK. THEY ARE REQUESTING RELIEF TO THE BLOCK LENGTH REQUIREMENTS. SO THIS BLOCK WOULD BE ALLOWED TO HAVE BLOCK LENGTHS OF UP TO 350 FEET. SO THE APPLICANT HAS PROPOSED TO COMBINE TWO BLOCKS INTO ONE, MAKING THAT 580 FEET BLOCK LENGTH ALONG POLK STREET. SO HERE THEY'RE REQUESTING AN EXCEPTION TO ALLOW AN ADDITIONAL 160 FEET. ALSO, AS WE MENTIONED, THERE WILL BE A PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION PROVIDED THROUGH THE BUILDING. SO THAT FOOT TRAFFIC CAN GO FROM POLK STREET TO KAUFMAN STREET AT THE MID BLOCK. IN REGARDS TO PARKING, THE CODE REQUIRES 1.5 PARKING SPACES PER DWELLING UNIT, WHICH EQUATES TO 419 PARKING SPACES. IN TOTAL, THEY WILL PROVIDE 419 PARKING SPACES IN THE GARAGE, BUT THE FIRST LEVEL WILL BE PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE, SO THE OTHER FOUR LEVELS WILL BE GATED OFF FOR RESIDENT USE ONLY THE BOTTOM LEVEL WILL BE PROVIDED AND AVAILABLE FOR THE PUBLIC. SO SINCE THOSE AREN'T COUNTED TOWARDS THE RESIDENTIAL PARKING SPACES, THAT WILL KNOCK DOWN THEIR, THEIR RATE TO PROVIDE 1.25 PARKING SPACES PER DWELLING UNIT INSTEAD. AND THEN THEY'LL BE PROVIDING APPROXIMATELY 70 PARKING SPACES ON THE BOTTOM FLOOR FOR PUBLIC PARKING. [01:55:01] UH, ALSO WITH THE STREETS SCAPE ENHANCEMENTS, ADDITIONAL STREET PARKING WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE ON THE STREETS, UH, AND THERE WILL BE A TOTAL OF 62 PUBLIC PARKING SPACES AVAILABLE ON THE ADJACENT STREETS. UH, WE DO HAVE REQUIREMENTS FOR, UH, DOORS AND ENTRANCEWAYS IN THE CODE. SO WHERE STOREFRONT WINDOWS ARE PROVIDED, THE DOOR IS TO BE RECESSED FROM THE, FROM THE WALL OF WINDOWS. THE ONLY STOREFRONT WINDOWS ON THIS PROJECT WILL BE ALONG THE LEASING AREA, WHICH IS ALREADY SET BACK FROM THE ROAD. SO THERE WILL NOT BE AN INSET HERE. THE DOOR MAY BE FLUSH WITH THE WINDOWS IN THIS AREA. ALSO, THE CODE, UH, LIMITS SECURITY SERVICE AND GARAGE DOORS TO NOT BE PLACED ON THE STREET FRONTAGES. BUT BECAUSE THIS PROJECT WILL HAVE FOUR FRONTAGES, THEY THERE MAY BE A SERVICE TYPE OF DOOR ON ONE OF THOSE FRONTAGES. SO THIS SUMMARIZES THE EXCEPTIONS THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED, UH, AS SHOWING WHAT THEY'VE, WHAT IS REQUIRED, WHAT IS PROPOSED, AND THEN THE FINAL NET RESULT OF THAT REQUEST. AGAIN, THE BUILDING HEIGHT WILL BE AN ADDITIONAL NINE FEET. THERE WILL BE A REDUCTION OF 2.9% IN OPEN SPACE FROM WHAT IS REQUIRED. THERE MAY BE AN ADDITIONAL 200, THERE WILL BE A TWO ADDITIONAL 230 FEET OF BLOCK LENGTH, AND THEN THERE WILL BE AN ADDITIONAL SEVEN 70 PUBLIC PARKING SPACES IN LIEU OF RESIDENTIAL SPACES. AT THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION MEETING ON JANUARY 7TH, THIS YEAR, THEY VOTED SIX TO ONE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL AT THE RE OF THE REQUEST. AT THE TIME, WE HAD FOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS IN OPPOSITION AND FOUR IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST. UM, SINCE THEN, WE HAVE RECEIVED 19 COMMENTS IN OPPOSITION AND AN ADDITIONAL THREE IN SUPPORT AND ONE NEUTRAL. AND TONIGHT THE CITY COUNCIL WILL NEED TO TAKE TWO ACTIONS. YOU MAY APPROVE THE REQUEST AS PRESENTED WITH CONDITIONS OR DENY THE REQUEST AS WELL AS THE ORDINANCE, UH, NEEDS TO BE VOTED ON TONIGHT. UH, UH, AS A COMPANION TO THE REQUEST FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING ITEM, DEREK, AND THAT COMPLETE MY PRESENTATION ALL AHEAD. THANK YOU. GREAT PRESENTATION COUNSEL. ANY QUESTION, MR. SHAMSUL? THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WELL, THANK YOU AGAIN. UH, I THINK EVERYONE UNDERSTAND WHY WE ARE HERE, BUT I WANT TO UNDERSTAND MYSELF. SO CAN YOU REPEAT THAT AGAIN? WHAT IS THE CURRENT ZONING FOR THAT AREA AND WHY THIS IS SO IMPORTANT THAT WE ARE, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS THING HERE OURSELVES. SO YES, SO THE USE IS ALLOWED BY RIGHT MULTIFAMILY IS ALLOWED BY, RIGHT? UH, BUT THEY'RE ASKING FOR RELIEF TO SOME OF THE BUILDING STANDARDS SPECIFICALLY OF THE FORM-BASED CODE, SPECIFICALLY THESE FIVE ELEMENTS HERE. UM, THEY'RE SEEKING FLEXIBILITY FOR THESE FIVE ELEMENTS. SO, SO THE MULTIFAMILY IS ALLOWED BY ZONE? YES. CURRENT SONY. HOW, WHAT, WHERE IS THE MIXED USE THINGS? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT IN THAT ZONING THERE? NO, IT'S NOT REQUIRED IN THIS SUBDISTRICT. OKAY. THANK YOU MR. BARRIOS. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, DO YOU, I'M LOOKING AT SLIDE SEVEN WHERE IT SHOWS, UM, PARCEL ACCUMULATION. DO YOU HAVE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE ON THE ALLEY AND MCKINNEY STREET BY ANY CHANCE? NO. UH, MCKINNEY STREET IS AN 80 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, AN IDEA OF THAT. SO IT'S 80 FEET BY ABOUT 250 FEET MCKINNEY STREET. OKAY. AND I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBER ON THE ALLEY, MR. BARB. WE'RE, WE'LL GET THAT FOR YOU IN JUST A MINUTE. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY. OKAY. I'M CALCULATING IT TO BE ABOUT A HALF ACRE RIGHT AWAY, SQUARE FEET, ABOUT 20,000 SQUARE FEET PER FOR JUST FOR JUST MCKINNEY STREET, GOING BY THE 250 BY 80 FEET DIMENSION. THANK YOU. OKAY. AT THIS TIME, ASK THE APPLICANT TO PLEASE COME FORWARD AND MAKE ANY COMMENTS AND OR, UH, ANSWER QUESTIONS, PLEASE. GOOD EVENING. UM, MY NAME'S JOEL RINS. UM, I AM, UH, AT 2100 MCKINNEY AVENUE, DALLAS, TEXAS 7 5 2 0 1. I'M A TRAMMELL CROW COMPANY. UH, BEEN WITH THEM JUST UNDER 17 YEARS. I'M JOINED THIS EVENING BY, UH, KEVIN HICKMAN AND ON MY TEAM. UH, MANY OTHERS, UM, BACK [02:00:01] AT THE OFFICE THAT AREN'T HERE. BUT, UM, UM, I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S TIME THIS EVENING. WE'RE EXCITED TO BE HERE. SO, UM, REAL QUICK, I DON'T WANNA SPEND TOO MUCH TIME ON US, UM, BUT I DO WANNA SET STAGE AS TO WHO YOU'RE DEALING WITH. 'CAUSE UNLIKE LEGACY PARTNERS, IT'S BEEN A LITTLE BIT SINCE WE BUILT SOMETHING IN RICHARDSON. AND WE'RE EXCITED TO BE BACK HERE, UM, WITH WHAT WE THINK IS AN EXCITING PROJECT. SO, TRAIL CROW COMPANY WAS FOUNDED HERE, UM, IN NORTH TEXAS, DALLAS, SPECIFICALLY A LITTLE OVER 75 YEARS AGO BY THAT MAN IN THE PICTURE WHO'S SINCE PASSED. UM, TODAY WE ARE A WHOLLY OWNED SUBSIDIARY OF CBRE. IT'S THE WORLD'S LARGEST, UM, REAL ESTATE SERVICES FIRM. ALSO, A CORPORATE CITIZEN HERE IN RICHARDSON HAS ABOUT 130,000 SQUARE FEET OF GALLATIN COMMONS. UH, AND WHEN WE BUILD APARTMENTS, IT'S UNDER THE HIGH STREET RESIDENTIAL BRAND. THIS IS JUST A COLLECTION OF PROJECTS. UM, MY MY TEAM AND I HAVE WORKED ON OVER THE PAST 10 YEARS IN NORTH TEXAS. THERE'S, THERE'S MANY MORE. UM, BUT REALLY JUST PUT IT UP HERE TO SHOW THE DIVERSITY OF WHAT WE DO. UH, WE, WE REALLY PURSUE WHAT WE THINK ARE BEST IN CLASS OPPORTUNITIES. UH, GREAT REAL ESTATE AND GREAT COMMUNITIES. UM, LARGELY FOCUSING ON, UM, WHAT WE WOULD CONSIDER FOREVER LOCATIONS THAT ARE WALKABLE IN NATURE. AND WE THINK THAT THIS IS WHAT THESE ARE. AND I THINK THAT IS WHAT WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT. AND SO, UH, AS MENTIONED, WE WERE HERE, UM, ON JANUARY 7TH, UM, AND, AND OBTAIN A FAVORABLE OUTCOME. UM, THAT SAID, WE DIDN'T STOP THERE. UM, WE'RE GONNA HIT ON A HANDFUL OF THINGS THAT WE'VE, WE'VE LOOKED AT AND ADJUSTED OVER THE PAST FIVE WEEKS OR SO. UM, THIS WAS THE PLAN THAT WAS, UM, PRESENTED LAST TIME. UM, BUT, UM, LET'S FOCUS MORE ON, ON WHAT WE HEARD AND REALLY, UM, WHAT WE'VE, WHAT WE'VE ADJUSTED OVER THE PAST FIVE WEEKS OR SO. SO, UM, AND, AND JUST KNOW THESE ARE THEMATIC, UM, FEEDBACK. I WOULDN'T, I'M NOT UP HERE REPRESENTING THIS IS EVERY LITTLE THING WE HEARD, BUT THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE CONSISTENTLY HEARD EITHER AT CPC OR THROUGH COMMUNITY OUTREACH MEETINGS. UM, SO AT PLANNING COMMISSION, THE, THE LARGE ITEMS THAT WE'RE FOCUSED ON WERE TRASH LOADING AND OPERATIONS, KAUFMAN ACCESS, STEERING, CONSTRUCTION, UM, WANTING MORE RENDERINGS. WE FOCUSED, UM, ON, ON POKING GREENVILLE IN THIS FRONTAGE. WE DID NOT GO AROUND THE SITE. UH, SHAME ON US. UH, SO WE WENT TO WORK AND, AND PRODUCED A LOT MORE RENDERINGS AND WE'LL SHARE THOSE THIS EVENING. UH, WE ALSO HAD A BUNCH OF MEETINGS. UM, UH, KEVIN AND I, UH, TAKE TEAM IN ON THAT. BUT, UM, HAD OVER, UH, 20 MEETINGS OVER THE PAST FIVE WEEKS. UM, WE THINK COMING OUT OF THAT, UH, WE HAVE AN ENHANCED PUBLIC OPEN SPACE ON POKE. UM, IMPROVED PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY 'CAUSE IT DIDN'T EXIST IN THE LAST PLAN. UM, IT WAS HIT ON, UM, EARLIER, BUT THE, THE CONNECTION THROUGH THE PROJECT MID-BLOCK, UM, WAS ABSENT THE LAST TIME WE WERE HERE. WE HEARD ABOUT AND CLEAR FROM FOLKS A DESIRE TO BREAK DOWN THAT BLOCK FACE AND ALSO PROVIDE POROSITY AND A CONNECTION THROUGH THE SITE, UM, FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE SOUTH UP THROUGH, UH, TO POLK AND EVENTUALLY TO MAIN STREET. AND I THINK THAT WAS A HUGE ADD. WE ALSO HEARD, UM, FEEDBACK FROM FOLKS ABOUT, UH, UH, A FEAR OF LOSING PUBLIC PARKING. UM, AND, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY WANT TO SEE DOWNTOWN RICHARDSON CONTINUE TO THRIVE AND GROW. AND I THINK ADDING MORE PARKING WILL PLAY INTO THAT AND BE AN ADDED BENEFIT FOR, UM, RETAILERS AND PROPERTY OWNERS, UM, THAT COULD UTILIZE THAT PARKING, UM, IN THE FUTURE. UH, WE ALSO HEARD, UH, ABOUT A DESIRE FOR, UH, RETAIL IN THE PROJECT. WE'RE GONNA HIT ON THAT. THE CHECKS, UH, REPRESENT THINGS THAT WE BELIEVE WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED. UM, THE CIRCLES ARE THINGS THAT WE HEARD, AND WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT WHY WE DID NOT INCORPORATE SOME OF THE THINGS WE'VE HEARD, UM, BUT RETAIL FEASIBILITY AND THEN ALSO THE MCKINNEY STREET, UM, ABANDONMENT. SO I'M GONNA HAND IT OFF TO, TO KEVIN, AND I'M GONNA COME BACK TOWARDS THE END. SO THANKS. GOOD EVENING. UH, ARNOLD MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. UH, MY NAME'S KEVIN HICKMAN, 2100 MCKINNEY. UH, MY WIFE AND I WERE BORN AND RAISED IN ERSTON. MY IN-LAWS STILL LIVE HERE. UH, WE BOTH GRADUATED FROM NER HIGH SCHOOL. GO RAMS. IT'S HARD TO STAND UP HERE AND, AND NOT HAVE COACH REFERENCE, UH, BUT I'LL IGNORE IT. UH, MY KIDS, MY WIFE WAS A TEACHER IN RSD AND MY KIDS ATTEND RSD SCHOOLS. UM, SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS SORT OF A SENSE OF COMMUNITY, RIGHT? IT'S, IT'S MY ROOTS. THIS IS WHERE I WAS BORN AND RAISED. AND, YOU KNOW, GOING INTO THESE MEETINGS AND LISTENING TO FEEDBACK, WE TRY TO INCORPORATE AS MANY THINGS AS WE COULD. UM, AND WE THINK WE DID ACCOMPLISH A LOT OF 'EM. UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA WALK YOU IN DETAIL THROUGH THE OPEN SPACE ENHANCEMENTS THAT WE'VE MADE, THE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY, THE PUBLIC PARKING IN THE GARAGE, UH, AND AS EXCITING AS IT MAY SOUND, BUT, UH, THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE DID FOR THE TRASH. UM, YOU KNOW, I, I PUT THIS UP HERE, UH, JUST BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, DEREK HAS SHOWED THE PICTURES OF THE SITE EARLIER TODAY. AND I'LL TELL YOU, YOU KNOW, WHAT A VISION, UH, THAT THIS BLOCK AND THIS SITE COULD ACTUALLY BECOME. UM, JUST THIS, THIS SPEAKS [02:05:01] QUALITY OF WHAT THIS PROJECT IS FROM THE BUILDING ARTICULATION, NOT ONLY THE VERTICAL, BUT ALSO THE HORIZONTAL, UH, ARTICULATION THAT YOU SEE HERE, AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC REALM IMPROVEMENTS. UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE PAID SPECIAL ATTENTION TO, TO THOSE IMPROVEMENTS. THE PD DOES A GREAT JOB OF REQUIRING SOME, BUT WE THINK WE'RE, WE'RE TAKING THIS ABOVE AND BEYOND. UM, SO FIRST WE'LL HIT THE, THE PUB PUBLIC OPEN SPACE. YOU KNOW, HERE'S A VISUAL OF, OF ONE OF THE ENHANCED PUBLIC OPEN SPACES. AND AS WE DRILL DOWN IN HERE, UH, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT WE, WE ELIMINATED 3000 SQUARE FEET OF PRIVATE OPEN SPACE AND MADE IT ALL PUBLIC ALONG POLK STREET. SO WE, WE TOOK A MUCH SMALLER 3000 SQUARE FOOT PRIVATE OPEN SPACE. NOW IT'S 4,000 SQUARE FEET OF PUBLIC. WE FEEL LIKE THIS IS A GREAT GATHERING AREA, UM, FOR THOSE THAT, YOU KNOW, BE MAYBE WAITING FOR TABLES AT DELL'S OR PARK IN OPE, UM, OR HAVE FINISHED ICE CREAM. AND THEY WANT, THEY WANT A PLACE TO GATHER WITH THEIR FAMILIES AND FRIENDS, UH, BEFORE THEY GO TO THE NEXT SPOT. YOU KNOW, WE'RE EXCITED. WE'VE HAD SOME PRELIMINARY CONVERSATIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC ART INSTALLATIONS. AND WITH THIS EXPANDED, YOU KNOW, LANDSCAPE AND OPEN SPACE AREA, I THINK WE'VE GOT THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO DO THAT. UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A, NOW A DECENT WIDTH OF A SPACE THAT WE COULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE CITY TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE PROGRAMS IN THIS AREA. NEXT, I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE PUBLIC PARKING AND THE WALKABILITY. UM, SO WHAT WE HEARD IS PARKING IS IMPORTANT. WE LOSE THE PRIVATELY OWNED, BUT PUBLIC PARKING OF 110 SPACES, 111 SPACES, UM, THAT'S GONNA HURT DOWNTOWN. AND THERE'S 20, THERE'S 20 SPACES THAT ARE IN WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY TODAY. SO WHAT WE DID, WHAT WE COMMITTED TO IS NOT REDUCE A SINGLE PUBLIC PARKING SPACE. SO WE'RE REBUILDING 61, ACTUALLY 62 PER DEREK'S ACCOUNT. SHE'S BETTER AT THAT THAN I AM. UM, BUT WE'RE OUT ALSO ADDING 70 PUBLIC PARKING SPACES WITHIN OUR PROJECT THAT ARE COVERED AND MORE CENTRALLY LOCATED TO THE CORE OF THIS DOWNTOWN DISTRICT. WHAT YOU ALL ALSO NOTICE, AND WE'VE GOT SOME GOOD PRETTY PICTURES OF IT, BUT THIS POLK KAUFMAN EO THAT WE'VE, WE'VE INCLUDED, WE THINK THIS IS ALSO KEY. WE HEARD THE COMMUNITY, THEY WANTED CONNECTION BETWEEN KAUFMAN AND POLK. WE'VE NOW PROVIDED IT. THIS IS LOOKING FROM POLK THROUGH KAUFMAN. SO TO THE, ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE IS KIND OF OUR LEASING AND MINI SPACE. AND SO YOU'LL BE KIND OF WALKING THROUGH THE GARAGE AREA. WE WILL HAVE AN ENHANCED PAVING, OF COURSE, WE'LL MAKE IT, UH, A DA COMPLIANT, WELL LIT. YOU KNOW, WE'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE PEDESTRIAN LIGHTING THROUGHOUT THIS PROJECT. ALL ALONG THE, OUT OUTSIDE. WE'LL MAKE SURE THE SAME CONDITION IS HERE 24 HOURS A DAY. HERE'S, UH, THAT SAME POEO LOOKING FROM KAUFMAN TO POLK. I MEAN, WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT AN INCREDIBLE OPPORTUNITY. WE'RE NOT GONNA STAND UP HERE AND COMMIT TO ALL THIS PUBLIC ART TODAY, BUT WE'RE CREATING SOME GREAT WALLS. HERE'S ANOTHER VIEW OF A MURAL OPPORTUNITY. WE'RE EARLY IN THE VISION, BUT WE SEE WE HAVE A LOT OF POTENTIAL TO GET THERE. WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT KAUFMAN, UH, THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE COMMUNITIES. WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT THE KAUFMAN TOWN HOMES. UH, WE'VE GOT SINGLE FAMILY OWNERS. AND SO WE REALLY WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, RENDER AND ELEVATE AND SPEND TIME WITH ALL THE OWNERS THAT WOULD GIVE US TIME. UH, BUT THIS JUST KIND OF GIVES YOU A VISUAL OF, OF WHAT KAUFMAN COULD BECOME, UH, WITH THIS ENHANCED STREET SCAPE WITH, UH, PARKING INCLUDED, EXCUSE ME, ON THE NORTH SIDE. UH, AS DEREK APPOINTED, WE ARE ASKING FOR A NINE FOOT VARIANCE. UM, YOU KNOW, THE THREE STORY ZONING CURRENTLY TODAY REALLY HAS A MAXIMUM HEIGHT TO 45 FEET, REALLY FROM THE GROUND PLANE. WE'RE ASKING FOR A FIVE FOOT VARIANCE AS YOU MOVE DEEPER INTO THE SITE WHERE OUR GARAGE IS BUILT UP TO REALLY ACCOMMODATE FOR THAT. THOSE SETTING PARKING SPACES, YOU KNOW, IT, THAT'S WHERE IT HITS THE NINE FOOT. BUT REALLY FROM THE GROUND PLANE, IT'S ONLY A FIVE FOOT VARIANCE, UH, FOR THAT ADDITIONAL STORY. AND HERE'S THE TRASH. UH, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED WORKING WITH, UH, DAN TRACY, UH, AT THE CITY, WE DID A ZOOM AROUND OF CITY LINE. UH, AND WE HAD SOME, YOU KNOW, THESE DUMPSTERS THAT WERE HANGING OUT IN ANGLE PARKING SPACES, YOU KNOW, AND AFTER HEARING FEEDBACK AT CBC, WE, WE CALLED DAN. HE GOT US IN TOUCH WITH JOSE AND PAULA, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ITERATING ON, UH, DESIGNS. AND SO WHAT CAME OUTTA THAT IS, OKAY, WE'RE GONNA FULLY ENCLOSED AND HAVE AND HOUSE ALL A COMPACTOR WITHIN, WITHIN INSIDE OUR BUILDING. IT REQUIRES A BIG 22 FOOT ROLL UP DOOR, BUT WE'RE GONNA DO IT. UM, THE TRASH WILL BE LOADED AND UNLOADED WITHIN OUR BUILDING. UH, THE, [02:10:01] THE TRUCK, WHEN IT'S, YOU KNOW, LOADING THIS STUFF, IT WILL BE OUTSIDE OF THE RIGHT OF WAY. THE, THE FRONT OF THE TRUCK WILL BE, UM, OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING, BUT EVERYTHING ELSE WILL HAPPEN WITHIN IT. AND SO WE FEEL LIKE WE REALLY SOLVED THE TRASH CONCERN THAT, UH, THAT WAS THERE BEFORE AT CPC. UH, SOME ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT WE HEARD. ACCESS DURING CONSTRUCTION, MAKING AIR COURT, A PRIVATE STREET, UH, YOU KNOW, REALLY ENHANCING THE WALKABILITY. YOU KNOW, WE'VE COORDINATED WITH OUR GC AND OF COURSE WHEN IMPROVEMENTS HAPPEN, WHETHER THEY'RE ON POLK, TEXAS, KAUFMAN, WHEREVER, WE'RE GONNA MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT IT SIGNALED. WE GOT IT FLAGGED IF, UH, AND, AND MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S AT LEAST ONE LANE OF TRAFFIC OPEN AT ALL TIME, IF NOT TWO. UH, AND IF ANYTHING OCCURS, THEN WE'LL CERTAINLY HAVE FLAGMEN OUT THERE. UH, THE KAUFMAN TOWN HOMES, WE HEARD THAT THEY WANTED TO MAKE AIR COURT A PRIVATE STREET. SO WE ENGAGED OUR ENGINEER WHO HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CITY OF RICHON TO TRY TO HELP SOLVE THEIR PROBLEM FOR THEM. UH, WE PUT TOGETHER AN EXHIBIT. THERE'S FURTHER CONVERSATIONS. WE'RE HAPPY TO SUPPORT THEM IN ANY WAY. UM, I'M NOT SURE IF ANYBODY ARE HERE TONIGHT, BUT I THINK THEY CAN ATTEST TO, YOU KNOW, THAT COLLABORATION AND COORDINATION WITH THEM. AND THEN CERTAINLY ENHANCING THE WALKABILITY. I THINK WE ADDRESSED THIS, WHICH IS THE REALLY THE PUBLIC REALM IMPROVEMENTS, THE STREETSCAPE, AND NOW THE POEO THAT'S GONNA CONNECT KAUFMAN TO, UH, TO POLK STREET. SO I'LL NOW, NOW TURN IT BACK OVER TO JOEL. THANKS. UM, AND, AND WE'RE ALMOST DONE, I PROMISE. UM, BUT THIS, UM, DESERVES SOME TIME. UM, JUST BRIEFLY WANNA HIT ON THIS. AND SO THE IMAGE ON THE LEFT IS A SHOT LOOKING DOWN MCKINNEY AND THE OTHER ONE'S JUST A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT ANGLE. UM, REALLY THE POINT OF THIS IS, IS TO SHOW ONE THE STREET'S COMING, UM, TO A DEAD END, RIGHT INTO A, A LOWER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. UH, YOU HAVE TWO MAJOR NORTH SOUTH ROADS, UM, THAT PROVIDE CIRCULATION AROUND THIS BLOCK WITH TEXAS AND GREENVILLE. AND YOU KNOW, I THINK HAVING IT BE A CAR FIRST EXECUTION COULD BE A, A MISTAKE. BUT I THINK ALLOWING PEDESTRIANS TO FLOW THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THROUGH OUR SITE, UM, IS, IS AN ADDITIVE, UM, FROM, FROM, FROM MY STANDPOINT. AND SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT IT. 'CAUSE WE THINK IT PUTS THE NEIGHBORHOOD FIRST, THE PEDESTRIAN FIRST, NOT THE VEHICLE FIRST. I THINK THERE'S ADEQUATE CIRCULATION AROUND THE SITE, UM, TO FOCUS MORE ON THE PEDESTRIAN THAN THE CAR. UM, AND THAT, AND THAT'S REALLY THE MAIN POINT I'D MAKE. THERE'S OBVIOUSLY OTHER, UM, PROBLEMS ASSOCIATED WITH, UM, NOT BEING ABLE TO ABANDON MCKINNEY LARGELY. UM, A LOT LESS, UH, DENSITY COULD BE DELIVERED AND IT'D BE A LOT COSTLIER. UM, WE'D ALSO NOT BE ABLE TO SKIN THE GARAGE IN THE WAY THAT WE'RE ABLE TO RIGHT NOW, WHERE ESSENTIALLY, I THINK IT WAS MENTIONED IN THE STAFF REPORT, WE REALLY DON'T HAVE A BACK DOOR IN THIS PROJECT, UM, WHICH IS PRETTY UNIQUE. IT CREATES A, A REALLY NICE URBAN EDGE. UM, AND, AND ALL THAT'S REALLY MADE POSSIBLE BY BEING ABLE TO, UH, SITUATE THE GARAGE IN THE PLACE THAT WE HAVE ON THE PLANT RETAIL. UM, I TELL YOU, WE LOVE RETAIL. WE DON'T RUN AWAY FROM IT. I KNOW SOME MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPERS, UM, REALLY I THINK SHY AWAY FROM DOING IT. UM, I'VE DONE IT NUMEROUS TIMES, UM, ACROSS, UM, OR THROUGH MY CAREER. I'M DOING IT RIGHT NOW ON A LARGE PROJECT. AND SO WE DO IT WHERE IT MAKES SENSE. UM, AND, AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS WHERE THE MARKET FUNDAMENTALS SUPPORT IT. AND, UH, ALL THAT BEING SAID, WE HEARD, UH, A DESIRE TO EXPLORE IT. WE DID EXPLORE IT BOTH IN A 2D PLAN AND A 3D PLAN. UM, BUT IT'S EASY TO PUT SOMETHING ON PAPER. IT'S A LOT HARDER TO EXECUTE IT IN A REALLY WORLD CLASS WAY AND HAVE A WORLD CLASS OUTCOME. AND YOU KNOW, FIRST, UM, WE ARE NOT EXPERTS IN RETAIL. WE TALKED TO EXPERTS, WE TALKED TO SHOP COMPANIES WHO THINK WAS INVOLVED YEARS AGO IN THE STUDY AND IS CURRENTLY, UM, WORKING ON THE LEASE UP OF BELT AND MAINE AND OTHER ASSETS. AND, UM, GEO HAD THE PLEASURE OF WALKING EVERY, EVERY BUILDING IN THE ORANGE, UH, SURVEYING IT, UM, PUTTING TOGETHER A SURVEY OF WHAT WE BELIEVE TO BE THE TOTAL INVENTORY AND THEN WHAT WAS VACANT. UM, THAT'S A LOT O OF SPACE AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF POTENTIAL THERE. AND FROM OUR STANDPOINT, BASED OFF OF FEEDBACK WE HEARD FROM RETAIL PROFESSIONALS THAT ARE CURRENTLY LEASING IN RICHARDSON, POLK REALLY DOESN'T, UM, LEND ITSELF WE TO TO RETAIL THE SAME WAY SOME OTHER STREETS DO. IT DOESN'T GO THROUGH ACROSS GREENVILLE, UH, WHICH IS REALLY WHAT A LOT OF RETAILERS WOULD WANT TO HAVE MORE OF A THOROUGHFARE PRESENCE. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE RETAIL ON POLK CAN AND WON'T BE OR ISN'T SUCCESSFUL, BUT ADDING MORE TO IT, UM, WHEN THE FUNDAMENTALS AREN'T QUITE THERE, UM, COULD SEEM LIKE A MISTAKE AND COME AT, AT A COST TO SOME OF THE EXISTING PROPERTY OWNERS IN DOWNTOWN THAT HAVE VACANCY AND WANNA SEE THEIR, THEIR SPACE LEASE. AND SO, UM, FROM OUR STANDPOINT, WE THINK THIS PROJECT THAT WE'RE BUILDING IS GONNA BRING VIBRANCY. IT'S GONNA BRING PEDESTRIANS TO THE STREET LEVEL ACTIVITY. IT'S GONNA BRING SHOPPERS AND RESTAURANT GOERS, ALL OF WHICH WILL [02:15:01] HELP, UM, EAT UP THE VACANCY THAT'S IN DOWNTOWN RICHARDSON. SO THAT, UM, OH, ONE FEW MORE SLIDES I'LL GO THROUGH FAST. JUST WANTED TO SHARE A COUPLE OF THE RENDERINGS THAT WE DID PRODUCE AND WE'VE SHARED WITH FOLKS OVER THE PAST FEW WEEKS. UH, THIS IS A SHOT FROM POKE IN GREENVILLE. UM, OBVIOUSLY YOU KNOW YOUR CITY, BUT YOU GOT POKE ON THE RIGHT AND GREENVILLE ON THE LEFT. UM, AND THEN HERE WE HAVE, UH, TEXAS WITH THE CENTRAL TRAILER HERE IN THE FOREGROUND, AND THEN KAUFMAN ON THE RIGHT. UM, THIS IS ANOTHER VIEW FROM THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION OF THAT PUBLIC SPACE KEVIN WAS TALKING ABOUT. WE'RE SUPER EXCITED TO HAVE INCORPORATED IN THE PLANT, UM, AND THEN THE IMAGE THAT KEVIN ALREADY SPOKE TO. SO, UM, WITH THAT, I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING. UM, WE APPRECIATE, UM, EVERYBODY'S EFFORT, UM, THE OUTREACH WITH THE COMMUNITY. UM, AND WE'LL TURN IT BACK, UM, OR I GUESS OPEN IT UP FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR WE CAN COME BACK. JOE, JOE, KEVIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH, MR. CORCORAN. OH, THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. SOMETHING THAT, UM, OUR STAFF HAD MENTIONED TO, TO ME THAT I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM WITH YOU TOO, UM, WAS THAT THERE WERE SOME SORT OF UTILITY ISSUES WITH A NOT ABANDONING MCKINNEY, AND I DIDN'T HEAR YOU EXPAND ON ANY OF THAT. ARE THERE UTILITY? I MEAN, COULD YOU, IF, IF THOSE ARE A THING, COULD, COULD Y'ALL EXPAND ON THAT JUST A LITTLE BIT AS WELL? UH, I THINK THE COMMENT, WE, THE COMMENT THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO IS THAT THEY WERE WORKING IN A BUILT ENVIRONMENT AND IT'S DIFFERENT THAN A GREENFIELD DEVELOPMENT WHERE EVERYTHING IS ANEW AND YOU'RE ABLE TO LAY THINGS OUT IN AN IDEAL WAY. AND SO I THINK, UM, I IS THAT THE COMMENT YOU'RE REFERRING TO? UM, POTENTIALLY YEAH. I DON'T . OKAY. I I'M SORRY THAT THAT'S THE YEAH, THAT'S THE COMMENT THAT THAT COMES TO MIND WHEN YOU SAY, UH, IT WAS, I SEE IT WAS WORKING AROUND THE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE. UM, I THINK IT WAS WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, UM, WHY, WHY DEVELOP IT AND INCLUDE MCKINNEY VERSUS NOT INCLUDE MCKINNEY, RIGHT? AND THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S WHAT I WANTED CLARIFICATION ON WAS, YOU KNOW, THERE IS A, YOU KNOW, WATER CONNECTION OR SEWER CONNECTION OR IS THERE SOMETHING, YOU KNOW ABOUT DEVELOPING IT AS TWO SEPARATE BLOCKS VERSUS HAVING TO ESSENTIALLY HAVING TO, YOU KNOW, BUILD IS ONE BIG BLOCK THAT YEAH. UTILITIES I GUESS ARE A FACTOR IN THAT? WELL, SURELY, UM, UTILITIES COULD COME AT PLAY, BUT I THINK FROM OUR STANDPOINT, OKAY. MORE COMES DOWN TO THE PLAN ITSELF, THE CONSTRUCTABILITY, AND THEN HOW IT REACTS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE SOUTH, UM, AND NOW BRINGING VEHICLES THROUGH ON THREE STREETS INTO THAT, UH, LOWER DENSITY AREA. OKAY. SO, THANK YOU JOE. MR. BARRIO, EXCUSE ME. MR. DORIAN WAS FIRST THANK. THANK YOU, MA'AM. UH, JOEL. KEVIN, THANK YOU FOR, UH, A GOOD PRESENTATION AND EXPLAINING THESE DETAILS. UH, I APPRECIATE THAT I, BEFORE I HIT MY FIRST ROUND OF QUESTIONS, I JUST WANNA SAY, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST TIME AROUND, OF COURSE, THE CONCERN WAS, IS COULD BUILDING A WALL DOWN MAIN STREET, WHICH NOBODY REALLY WANTED A WALL DOWN MAIN STREET. THEY WANTED IT TO BE POT PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY. AND I THINK THAT SOME OF THESE, UM, SOME OF THESE AREAS YOU'VE ADDRESSED, UH, AND I APPRECIATE THAT. I DO KNOW THAT WE HAVE THAT 580 FOOT, UH, SPAN, AND NOW WE'VE GOT ABOUT A 250 FOOT PASS THROUGH THE EO, CORRECT? CORRECT. AND, AND ONE SIDE OF THAT IS OPEN FOR, UH, FOR ENTRY FOR CARS TO ENTER PRIVATE, UH, I GUESS THAT'S SECOND, THIRD, FOURTH FLOOR PARKING. AND THE FIRST FLOOR WILL JUST BE FOR, UH, RESIDENT OR, UH, FOR THE PUBLIC, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. IS THAT HOW, HOW WIDE IS THAT AT TIRE PASS THROUGH? I MEAN, I KNOW IT HAS TO FIT TWO CARS, BUT IS IT THE SAME SIZE OF BOTH SIDES OF POLK AND C? NO, THEY'RE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT. UM, GIVEN HOW THEY'RE BEING USED. UH, WE'LL START WITH, UH, THIS ONE. YEAH. SO, UH, THE WALK IS ABOUT THE WIDTH OF A PARKING STALL, SO ABOUT NINE FEET. SO THAT'S CONTINUOUS. IF YOU GO, UM, IF YOU GO TO THIS, THIS OPENING RIGHT HERE INTO THE GARAGE FROM KAUFMAN, AS YOU'RE WALKING TOWARDS POLK, THAT'S 19 FEET. OKAY. AND, AND THIS OTHER ONE, UM, ESTIMATED ABOUT 30 FEET. ABOUT 30, YEAH. OKAY. AND THEN OF COURSE, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE A PATH, UH, WHETHER THAT'S PAVERS OR WHATEVER, IT'S GONNA END UP BEING, UH, TO CREATE SOME KIND OF LIGHTING DETAIL SO PEOPLE COULD PASS THROUGH. AND THAT WILL BE OPEN AT ALL HOURS OF THE NIGHT. IT WILL YOU, WE DO HAVE A GATE THAT IS, I THINK SHOWS UP. I'M TRYING TO FIND THE ORDER HERE. UM, OTHERWISE, SORRY, A LOT OF SLIDES SO YOU CAN SEE HERE. UM, SO JUST TO ORIENT YOURSELF, POKE IS PLANNED NORTH, SO YOU COME IN, UM, IF YOU COME IN FROM THE NORTH OFF PO, IF YOU TAKE A LEFT, THERE'S SOME SPACES THERE, UM, TO THE LEFT, GO THAT WAY, OTHER WAY. UM, AND THEN THERE'LL BE A GATE, AND THAT'S A GATE, UH, WHERE [02:20:01] RESIDENTS WILL HAVE TO TAG ACCESS TO GET TO A SECURED AREA. AND THEN YOU GO BACK. THE OTHER WAY TO THE BOTTOM, UM, IS, IS WHERE ALL THE PUBLIC PARKING IS. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, I KNOW THAT THESE ARE PRIMARILY, UH, TWO BEDROOMS, ONE AND TWO BEDROOMS, AND I HEARD EARLIER MENTION THERE IT'S ONE POINT, IS IT 1.25? THAT'S RIGHT. SPACES PER PER UNIT. PER UNIT, YES, SIR. OKAY. SO YOU'RE EXPECTING TO HAVE ONE VEHICLE APPROXIMATELY ONE TO TWO WOULD DEPEND ON, YEAH, AND, AND I WOULD SAY IT'S NOT UNIQUE TO THIS SITE. WE HAVE, UM, A LOT OF EXPERIENCE IN, YOU KNOW, WALK, WE'LL MIX UCR AND ALLEN, UM, TO REDEVELOPED ALL OF DOWNTOWN CARROLLTON. UM, AND, AND ESPECIALLY AS WE BUILT MORE AND MORE AND, AND HAD EXPERIENCE THERE, UM, REALIZED THAT THAT WAS REALLY THE IDEAL, UH, RATIO TO NOT ALSO OVERBUILD AND BUILD PARKING THAT DOESN'T GET USED. OKAY. UM, THE OTHER CONCERN WAS CREATING SOME OPEN SPACES, WHICH YOU DID ADDRESS, AND, AND I APPRECIATE THAT IT'S VERY HELPFUL TO HAVE THOSE, THAT COMMON SPACE OFF OF POLK. SO AGAIN, IT DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE A SEA WALL. UM, AND, AND I DO BELIEVE THAT, UH, WORKING WITH CITY OF RICHARDSON, UM, THAT COULD BE A COLLABORATION FOR EVENTS. UH, AND IT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND RESIDENTS, CORRECT? THAT'S RIGHT. I, I WOULD ADD, I MEAN, THIS WAS DIRECTLY FROM FEEDBACK, A MEETING, UM, WITH RESIDENTS. UM, AND I, I THINK IT WAS GREAT COMMENT WE GOT, BECAUSE INITIALLY THOSE TWO PUBLIC SPACES WERE EQUAL, PROBABLY BECAUSE EVERYBODY LIKE SYMMETRY. UH, SO IT JUST, INITIALLY THEY WERE SYMMETRICAL. ONE WAS PUBLIC, ONE WAS PRIVATE. THE COMMENT WAS MADE TO US TO, TO INCREASE THE SIZE OF ONE, TO REALLY MAKE IT, UM, A SPACE THAT COULD BE MORE OF AN EVENT SPACE, MORE OF A MEETING SPACE, UM, AND USED IN THE WAY KEVIN DESCRIBED IN OTHER WAYS, AND REALLY THINK THAT IT BALANCES THE PUBLIC SPACE BETWEEN THE TWO AREAS. UM, SO WE WERE THRILLED WE GOT THAT COMMENT, AND I HOPE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, OTHERS ARE THRILLED WITH THIS RESULT TOO. SO THAT GIVES US BASICALLY THREE COMMON AREAS THAT ARE OPEN, CORRECT? YES, SIR. OKAY. WHAT IS, UH, WHAT IS THE, ERIC, YOU SAID THE ERIC COURT WAS ENCLOSED? AM I, DID I, WELL, THAT'S OFFSITE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF KAUFMAN. OKAY. IT'S SEPARATE DEVELOPMENT, BUT THROUGH, UM, THE CPC, I THINK PUBLIC HEARING, UH, COMMENTS AND THEN ALSO AFTER SUBSEQUENT CONVERSATIONS, THEY HAVE A DESIRE TO POTENTIALLY PRIVATIZE, UM, THEIR ENTRY. AND SO IT WAS MENTIONED JUST IN TERMS OF US TRYING TO COLLABORATE WITH THE COMMUNITY THAT WE ENGAGE OUR CIVIL ENGINEER TO HELP THEM UNDERSTAND THE STEPS THAT WOULD BE, COULD BE TAKEN TO ACHIEVE THAT. OBVIOUSLY IT FALLS OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF THIS, THIS EVENING. UM, BUT SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD SUPPORT AS A NEIGHBOR AND SOMETHING THAT WE HELP THEM FACILITATE, UM, THOSE DISCUSSIONS. OKAY. UM, AND THEN, OKAY, SO THAT TAKES CARE OF THE PULP SIDE. NOW ON THE, THE KAUFMAN SIDE, IT, UH, IT APPEARS THAT YOU WERE ASKING FOR A FIVE FOOT, UH, VARIANCE. IS THAT FIVE? IT'S JUST TO BE CLEAR, IT'S NINE FEET, UM, NINE FEET. WE HIGHLIGHTED FIVE BECAUSE IT'S REALLY WHAT THE PEDESTRIAN WILL PERCEIVE. IT GOES FROM THE GROUND TO THE TOP OF THE PARAPET. AND WE, AND WE THINK ABOUT LIKE THE, THE ENVIRONMENT THAT YOU'D EXPERIENCE. YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE A GARAGE FACE THAT'S, UM, FOUR FEET HIGHER AS A PEDESTRIAN. WHEN THAT GARAGE IS ANOTHER 40 FEET BACK, IT FALLS LIKE BEYOND THOSE CONDENSING UNITS, IT POPS BACK UP. SO IT IS NINE FEET THAT WE NEED. BUT IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU WOULD FEEL, IT'S FIVE FEET FROM KAUFMAN. NO, I, I, I AGREE WITH THAT. NO ONE WANTS TO BE LOOKING AT THE PARKING LOT, SO, AND I KNOW IT'S A LITTLE DIFFICULT SINCE THERE'S FOUR LEVELS, BUT STILL AT, I THINK THAT, UH, ADDITIONAL HEIGHT AS AT A LITTLE ARCHITECTURAL INTEREST. YEAH. AND, UH, SECURITY TO THE SPACE. UM, ON THE, YOU MENTIONED THE RETAIL PORTION, UH, THE CURRENT PLAN, THERE'S, IT IS MARKED, THERE'S SOME RETAIL IN THE UPPER, I THINK THAT CORNER OF TEXAS AND PULP IS, WAS THAT JUST A, THAT WAS TO SHOW REFERENCE OR SHOW OR TO EXPLAIN, LIKE IT WAS ASKED OF US. WE STUDIED IT, UM, BOTH ON THE PLAN AS WELL AS IN RENDERINGS. UM, BUT AS I MENTIONED, IT'S ONE THING TO STUDY HOW YOU CAN DO IT. IT'S ANOTHER TO, TO, TO DECIDE TO DO IT. AND AFTER TALKING WITH RETAIL BROKERS AND, AND STUDYING, UM, THE MARKET SITUATION, UM, AND TALKING WITH PEOPLE THAT OWN PROPERTY IN RICHARDSON, UM, IN DOWNTOWN THAT WOULD BE COMPETING WITH THIS SPACE, UM, WE DECIDED THAT WE DIDN'T THINK THAT WAS THE BEST USE FOR THIS. UM, AND THAT SIMPLY RESIDENTIAL WAS THE BEST USE. AND, AND THAT, SO THAT CORNER SPACE, UP IN THE CORNER, [02:25:01] IT SAYS RETAIL. THAT'S, THAT'S, YEAH, THAT WAS JUST TO SHOW A STUDY THAT IS NOT THE PLAN THAT WE SUBMITTED. THAT WAS PART OF THE STAFF REPORT. THIS IS THE PLAN THAT WE'RE ASKING. I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR. YES, SIR. UM, FOR WHOEVER'S WATCHING IT AND UNDERSTANDS WHAT'S GOING ON. UM, THE, THE LAST QUESTION I HAVE, AND I'LL, I MAY CIRCLE BACK WITH SOME OTHERS, BUT ON, I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THE, THE ARTWORK ON, THERE'S, THERE'S PLENTY OF, OF SURFACES THAT POTENTIALLY COULD BE HAVE ARTWORK. UH, I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT WE, YOU WORK WITH THE, UH, CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION TO COLLABORATE WHEREVER THOSE AREAS ARE, UH, TO COME UP WITH SOME IDEAS FOR ART. YEAH. UM, WHATEVER WALLS THEY'RE GOING TO BE OR HOW A MULTITUDE OF WALLS. BUT, UH, THAT'S AN INVALUABLE RESOURCE THAT, UH, THEY CAN ENGAGE IN AND, AND HELP OUT A GREAT DEAL. YEAH, WE'D WELCOME THAT. I MEAN, WE, WE DID THE SAME THING IN CARROLLTON, NOT TO KEEP BRINGING IT UP, BUT WALL ART, SCULPTURAL ART. IT WAS, IT WAS IN IT, AND WE'RE THRILLED WITH KIND OF HOW IT, WHERE WE ENDED UP WITH IT BASED OFF THAT. AND THAT GOES FOR THE SCULPTURE, UH, IF THERE'S POTENTIALLY A, SOME KIND OF CULTURAL ART PIECE OUT IN THE COMMON AREA. YEP. YEAH. OKAY. I, I MAY CIRCLE BACK TO A COUPLE OTHER QUESTIONS. I JUST WANT TO GET THAT CLARIFIED SO ANYONE WATCHING UNDERSTANDS WHAT'S GOING ON. THANK YOU, MR. BARRIOS. UH, THANK YOU MAYOR. GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU. UH, COUPLE QUESTIONS. THE, CAN YOU GIMME AN IDEA, AND I WAS LOOKING BACK JUST NOW, IF THEY WERE ASKING QUESTIONS, WHAT THE BOTTOM FLOOR OF, DO YOU HAVE ANY PICTURES OF BOTTOM FLOOR? HOW MANY UNITS ARE, ARE ALL THE CUTOUTS? I GUESS BETTER QUESTION. ALL THE CUTOUTS ALONG THE PERIMETER ARE THOSE OUTWARD FACING UNITS. AND THOSE ARE ONLY BOTTOM FLOOR, CORRECT? THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY. SO EVERY CUTOUT IS A OUTWARD FACING UNIT. OKAY. UM, NEXT QUESTION. I KNOW THAT IN, UH, OH, WE TALKED RECENTLY, A FEW WEEKS. WE MEAN, I REMEMBER SEEING THE ORIGINAL PLANS. THERE WERE TALK ABOUT ACTIVATING POKE. IS THAT STILL, POKE IS STILL KIND OF THE CENTER OF ACTIVATION, CORRECT? UH, DON, I, I THINK WHAT, ACCORDING TO THE 17 PLANS, I THINK. RIGHT, RIGHT. YEAH. I THINK THE ACTIVATION IS COMING THROUGH, UM, THE, UH, ENTRY, THE, TO YOUR POINT, THE, THE STOOPS AND THE FRONT DOORS AND THE GATED YARDS THROUGH THE OPEN SPACE, UH, THROUGH THE AMENITY ZONE. THAT'S, I MEAN, THE, UH, STOREFRONT AND THE, THE ACTIVATION OF THE, THE, UH, FOUR FLOORS IN THE STOREFRONT. UM, OKAY. 'CAUSE 'CAUSE WHEN WE LOOK AT THE PLAN FOR DOWNTOWN, UM, I SEE THAT THE PARKING GARAGE GO BACK TO WHERE WE WERE. WHAT IS THAT FOUR? WHERE THE ARIEL IS? OKAY, RIGHT THERE. ALL RIGHT. SO WE ENVISION AREA POKE, AND THIS IS ONE OF THE AREAS THAT, I'LL BE HONEST, IT WASN'T ON MY RADAR. SATURDAY, I SPENT A LOT OF TIME WALKING THIS AREA, AND I WENT TO CARROLLTON, I WENT TO ADDISON, WENT UP TO PLANO, UH, KIND OF TO REFRESH MY BRAIN OF WHAT SOME OF THE OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE SUCCESSFULLY. AND ONE THING I NOTICED IS ON THE MAIN AVENUES OF ACTIVATION, THEY DO NOT HAVE ENTRIES INTO THE GARAGE. LIKE, IT SEEMS KIND OF COUNTERPRODUCTIVE VERSUS LIKE IN, UH, ADDISON, FOR EXAMPLE, GARAGE ENTRIES ARE OFF, YOU KNOW, SIDE ROADS. WHAT, WHAT WAS THE DECISION ON PUTTING THAT ON POKE VERSUS ONE OF THE, THE SIDE ROADS INSTEAD OF THE MAIN ROAD THERE? ONE, I THINK IF POKE HAS BEEN OUR MAIN ONE, WHY WOULD WE, IT SEEMS LIKE COUNTERPRODUCTIVE OF ACTIVATION. YEAH. I WOULD SAY, UM, UH, THE THING WITH MULTI TWO, LIKE I, I GO BACK TO LIKE A CARROLLTON AND HOW WE DID IT. A BIG PART OF THAT IS HOW IT, HOW THE SITE LAYS OUT EFFICIENTLY. I WOULD SAY IF THEY HAD THEIR WAY, THEY WOULD'VE PREFERRED FOR THE GARAGE TO BE MUCH CLOSER TO MAIN STREET AND DOWNTOWN CARROLLTON BECAUSE IT WAS PROVIDING PARKING TO SUPPORT THAT DOWNTOWN RETAIL. BUT THE WAY THAT PLANNED SITE PLANNED OUT WHERE THE GARAGE WAS, WAS CENTRALLY LOCATED IN THAT SITE TO PROVIDE A CENTRAL ACCESS POINT FOR EVERYBODY THAT LIVED AROUND IT. AND THAT WAS A COMMON THEME WITH MULTIPLE PROJECTS WE'VE WORKED ON. IN THIS CASE, I THINK WE'RE PROVIDING A HUGE ASSET OF 70 PUBLIC PARKING SPOTS THAT ARE GOING TO FEED ALL THE RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL TO THE NORTH OF US. AND HAVING A CENTRAL POINT THAT'S VISIBLE THAT ENCOURAGES PARKING, THAT BRINGS PEOPLE DOWNTOWN IS A GOOD THING. HAVING TO GO LOOK FOR IT AND FIND IT IS, I THINK, UM, MAYBE NOT, NOT THE BEST EXECUTION. YEAH. THIS PRIVATE OPEN SPACE ON THE WESTERN RIGHT AND CENTER ON THE WESTERN SIDE, IS THAT A POOL OR WHAT IS THERE WILL BE A POOL. IS THAT JUST POOL? IT'S JUST GREEN TO SHOW IS GREEN SPACE, [02:30:01] BUT IT WILL BE, UM, AN AMENITY, UM, THAT WOULD HAVE A POOL AND OUTDOOR GRILLING AND ALL THAT FOR THE RESIDENTS. OKAY. UH, AND I DO WANNA SAY, I APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATIONS YOU'VE HAD WITH THE RESIDENTS, BY THE WAY. I, I FORGOT TO MENTION AT THE TOP, UH, 'CAUSE I DO KNOW THAT YOU'VE BEEN CHATTING WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE, OR THE TEAM HAS, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SPECIFICALLY, BUT, UM, THE TEAM HAS BEEN SPEAKING TO A LOT OF PEOPLE, THE THE PUBLIC OPEN SPACE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE, THIS AREA TOO, AND I JUST KIND OF WANNA PUT THIS OUT THERE AS KIND OF A, I GUESS QUESTION. LIKE WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS SPACE ON THE WEST SIDE OF TEXAN, UH, WE HAVE A TRAIL GOING THROUGH THERE AND IT LEADS UP TO THE LINEAR PART. UM, USUALLY ACTIVATIONS OR YOU, I WOULD THINK YOU'D WANT TO PULL THAT ACTIVATION, SO THAT COULD BE CENTRAL VERSUS IT KIND OF BEING ON A FLAT WALL OR A WESTERN KIND OF SEMI DEAD WALL WHERE THERE'S NOT AS MUCH ACTIVITY. WHAT WAS AGAIN, THE, THE DESIGN DECISION TO PUT THAT ON POPE VERSUS PULLING IT MORE TO THE WEST TOWARDS TEXAS WHERE YOU HAVE A PARK ACROSS THE STREET AND YOU CAN PULL IN SOME OF THAT VERSUS HAVING TO CREATE A SECONDARY PARK. I MEAN, LARGELY YOU HAVE TO ALSO THINK ABOUT THE FOLKS THAT ARE CALLED THIS PLACE HOME. RIGHT? AND SO WHEN YOU LOOK ABOUT, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE, IF YOU, IF YOU MOVE A GARAGE ALL THE WAY OVER TO ONE SIDE OF A PROJECT, IS THAT THE QUESTION OF WHY WE PUT IT IN THE CENTER VERSUS OFF TO THE SIDE? I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND. YEAH, I MEAN LIKE UP, UP TOP WHERE YOU HAVE A LOT OF YOUR OH, KIND OF GOT IT. WE HAVE THE RETAIL, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. YEAH. WHERE THERE'S MORE ACTIVITY AT THE CENTER, RIGHT? 'CAUSE THAT'S KIND OF THE PUBLIC OPEN SPACES. WHY WOULDN'T THAT BE MORE TOWARDS TEXAS WHERE IT TIES IN MORE WALKABLE WITH THE ACTUAL TRAIL AND THE PARK SYSTEM WE HAVE ALREADY IN PLACE, I THINK WE, WE VIEWED IT AS A WAY TO CREATE ENERGY AND IMPROVE AND, AND ENCOURAGE THE RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL TO THE DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH OF US. AND WE THINK THE PARKING'S GONNA SERVE THAT AS WELL. AND HAVING THIS BE CENTRALLY LOCATED THAT, I MEAN, WE LOVE CENTRAL TRAIL. WE THINK IT'S GREAT. WE THINK WE CAN, HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF SEPARATION DOESN'T DILUTE WHAT'S GOING ON THERE. UM, AND THINK THAT THE CENTRAL LOCATION AND THEN THE, LIKE THE, THE OPEN SPACE WE'RE CREATING REALLY CAN HELP, UM, VIBRANCY AND ENERGY, UM, AND, AND REALLY DENSIFY THAT COMMERCIAL AREA. LAST QUESTION. AND COUNCILMAN CORCORAN I BELIEVE KIND OF ASKED IT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF I QUITE UNDERSTOOD YOUR ANSWER TO IT. UM, AND I, AND IF I'M PUTTING WORDS IN HIS MOUTH, FORGIVE ME, UH, COUNCILMAN. BUT WHAT WAS THE IDEA BEHIND THIS? LONG AS THE COMMUNITY, I'VE HEARD PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY CALL IT SUPER BLOCK THE TWO BIG BLOCK AREA VERSUS JUST DOING TWO INDIVIDUAL BLOCK SYSTEMS. LIKE WHY THE NEED FOR SUCH A HUGE BLOCK, WHICH I THINK IS AS WE'LL PROBABLY HEAR LATER, ONE OF THE BIGGEST CONCERNS HERE. YEAH. THAT'S A MASSIVE BLOCK. SURE. AND, AND IT'S, UH, THE, THE, THE ONE, THE ECONOMICS BEHIND IT IS, IS REALLY IMPORTANT, MORE PROFITABLE. AND SO WHAT'S THAT IS MORE PROFITABLE OR EVEN FEASIBLE BUILDING ECONOMICS, NOT PROFITABLE, JUST FEASIBLE. I WOULD SAY IF YOU GO, THERE WAS THE ILLUSTRATIVE PLAN THAT WAS SHOWN, UM, EARLY ON, UM, IN THE, IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT SHOWED A, A RATHER TALL BUILDING, I THINK TALLER THAN A LOT OF THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY WANT. UM, AND IT WOULD, IT SHOWED A, A, A SITUATION WHERE YOU HAD A, A, A PRETTY, A FIVE STORY BUILDING AT LEAST THAT HAD A, A GARAGE AND A COURTYARD WHERE UNITS LOOKED DIRECTLY AT THE FACE OF A GARAGE AND IT WAS 50 TO 60 FEET AWAY. IT WOULD BE A CANYON. YOU WOULDN'T HAVE ANY AMENITY SPACE INSIDE OF THAT COURTYARD 'CAUSE IT WAS A COUPLE HUNDRED FEET LONG AND IT WAS 50 TO 60 FEET WIDE. THAT WAS WHAT WAS IN THE ILLUSTRATIVE PLAN. I CAN'T EVER SEE ANYBODY EVER BUILDING THAT. 'CAUSE IT'S, IT'S NOT A GOOD EXECUTION AND PEOPLE WOULDN'T WANNA LIVE THERE. ALTERNATIVELY, YOU COULD HAVE A BLOCK WHERE YOU HAVE RESIDENTIAL ON ONE SIDE, AND THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE YOU TURN THE GARAGE AND YOU COULD BRIDGE ACROSS THE STREET. AND SO YOU'RE LIKE, OKAY, I COULD BRIDGE. SO THEN THAT, THAT'S POSSIBLE. NOW YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING ON THREE OTHER LEVELS OF THIS BUILDING THAT WON'T HAVE DIRECT ACCESS TO THEIR GARAGE. THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO UP TO A BRIDGE, GO OVER. IT'S, IT'S NOT IDEAL. AND THEN YOU HAVE TO ASK YOURSELF LIKE, WHY, WHY ARE WE DOING THIS? UM, IS IT FOR THE CAR OR IS IT FOR THE PEDESTRIAN? I THINK THE CURRENT, UH, CODE ALLOWS FOR BLOCK FACES TO EXCEED 500 FEET IF YOU PROVIDE A PEDESTRIAN ACCESS THROUGH. I THINK IF WE'RE FOCUSED ON PEDESTRIANS AND HOW WE CAN BRING THEM THROUGH A SITE AND HOW WE CAN BREAK DOWN THE LENGTH OF A BLOCK. A LOT OF TIMES WITH BLOCK FACES, IT'S LIKE YOU HAVE A BUILDING THAT GOES STRAIGHT OFF AND IT'S JUST ALL THE WAY ACROSS. I MEAN, THERE'S NO RELIEF. WE HAVE MULTIPLE OPPORTUNITIES WHERE WE'RE HAVING RELIEF ALONG THIS BUILDING. IT'S NOT THAT YOU HAVE A 580 FOOT CONTI CONTIGUOUS BLOCK FACE. YOU HAVE 75 FEET THERE IN A BREAK, 75 FEET IN A BREAK, AND THEN YOU HAVE A, LIKE 150 FEET. [02:35:01] IT'S, THERE'S MULTIPLE OPPORTUNITIES TO BREAK THE BUILDING, WHICH WE DID. AND THEN YOU'RE, AND THEN WE ALSO INTRODUCE THE, THE CONNECTION THROUGH WHICH WE THINK DOESN'T, YOU KNOW, DISCONNECT THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE SOUTH, BUT RATHER PULLS 'EM THROUGH THE SIDE. OKAY. I MAY COME BACK. UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH, RANCHER. YOU BET. MAYOR PROTE. THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. MAYOR PERILLO. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. QUESTION, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER DAN EZ, HE ALREADY ASKED YOU THE QUESTION, BUT MY PURPOSE OF ASKING THAT QUESTION IS THE SAME. UH, SO I'M GONNA BE REPEATING THE QUESTION THEN I'M GOING TO ASK, EXPLAIN THAT WHY I'M ASK IN ASKING THAT QUESTION. SO YOU CAN ANSWER ME THAT. IT'S ABOUT THE GARAGE ACCESS IS FROM THE POKE THAT YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW. UH, HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT HAVING THE ACCESS FROM KAUFMAN? AND I DO UNDERSTAND THAT RESIDENTS, THOSE TOWN HOMES, THEY WOULD NOT LIKE IT IF YOU DO THAT. BUT THE REASON I'M ASKING THAT QUESTION IS, LET ME EXPLAIN. UH, WE DO HAVE YEARLY EVENTS AT THAT, UH, UH, ALONG THE DARK SPACE, GREEN SPACE THAT WE HAVE THERE, UH, BEHIND THE TEXAS STREET, NORTH WEST CORNER. UH, AND WE DO HAVE LOTS OF ACTIVITY. UH, LITTLE BIT IT IS ON THE NORTH PROPERTY JUST GO UP NO, NO, YEAH, YEAH. THIS PROPERTY. SO WE DO HAVE SOME HUGE EVENTS EVERY YEAR. AND THE GOAL IS, OR AT LEAST I CAN TELL YOU THAT WHAT I THINK AND MANY OTHER RESIDENTS IN THE AREA THINK THAT LOVE TO SEE THAT HAPPEN. YOU KNOW, NOT EXACTLY THAT HUGE CULTURAL EVENT. MAYBE, UH, EVERY WEEK WE'LL HAVE SOME ACTIVITY IN THAT AREA. SO ALSO THERE WAS A HOPE ONE TIME THAT WE, WE, WE COULD CLOSE DOWN MAIN STREET AND HAVE ACTIVITY THERE. ALL THOSE BUSINESSES THERE COULD PARTICIPATE, BUT MAIN STREET IS ONE OF THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARE. WE CAN'T REALLY DO THAT BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC. BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE COULD HAVE SLOWED DOWN SOME TRAFFIC THERE. UH, THAT'S ANOTHER THEORY. BUT NOW THE HOPE WAS THAT, OKAY, NOW WE HAVE POLK STREET BEFORE THIS PROJECT CAME. NOW IF THAT GARAGE ACCESS IS THERE, WE, WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO CLOSE DOWN POLK STREET AT GREENVILLE BECAUSE WE NEED TO HAVE ACCESS CONTINUOUS, UH, NOT JUST NECESSARILY FOR THE RESIDENTS, BUT ALSO FOR THE EMERGENCY VEHICLES. UH, IF SOMETHING HAPPENED, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THIS ROAD OPEN AND AT LEAST UP TO THE MCKINNEY STREET, YOU COULD NOT CLOSE DOWN POLK STREET FROM THE MCKINNEY STREET TO THE EAST. SO, BUT IF YOU WOULD HAVE ACCESS ON OTHER SIDE, THIS COULD HAVE BEEN CLOSED FOR THOSE SPECIAL EVENTS, SPECIAL DAY AT THE GREENVILLE LEVEL, MAKE THIS THING, ALL THIS THING EASILY WALKABLE. UH, I'M NOT SAYING THAT YOU KNOW THAT THIS IS THE SOLUTION, BUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT JUST FOR THE DISCUSSION, WHAT ARE THE PROS AND CONS? UH, YOU GUYS ARE EXPERT, SO YOU PROBABLY GIVE SOME WILL GIVE SOME CONVINCING ANSWER. THAT'S ONE THING IF YOU HAD THAT, BUT ALSO THE PUBLIC OPEN SPACE THAT YOU HAVE ON THE RIGHT SIDE. UH, THE BIGGER ONE, THAT ONE, YOU KNOW, IF THE ROAD REMAINS CLOSED AT THAT MCKINNEY, BUT THIS WOULD BE OPEN, BUT NO, YOU KNOW, THERE WILL BE TRAFFIC GOING BACK AND FORTH ALL THE TIME. SO IF THIS SPACE WAS ON THE LEFT SIDE, WHICH IS A WEST SIDE, UH, OF MCKINNEY, THEN THAT SPACE ALSO COULD BE USED DURING THOSE BUSY TIME. YOU KNOW, LIKE IF THERE ARE THOSE A PROGRAM, UH, THEN THEY DON'T HAVE TO WALK THROUGH THE, UH, TRAFFIC. SO THERE IS LIKE TWO THINGS. ONE IS THE PUBLIC OPEN SPACE IS, TO ME, IT'LL NOT BE A HUNDRED PERCENT UTILIZED DURING THOSE BUSY TIME BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC. OR IF THE GARAGE ACCESS WAS ON THE OTHER SIDE, ON THE KAUFMAN SIDE, THEN THAT WOULD GIVE, YOU KNOW, THAT WHOLE PARK STREET WOULD BE OPEN, YOU KNOW, FOR USE DURING THOSE BUSY TIME. YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ONCE A YEAR, HOPEFULLY THEY'LL, THAT WILL GO ONCE A MONTH SOMEDAY, BUT CITY DOESN'T HAVE TO SPEND THAT MONEY TO DO ANYTHING. AND THEN EVENTUALLY IT'LL GO LIKE ONCE A WEEK. BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE THAT ENVIRONMENT, THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE NOT GONNA HAPPEN. UH, THE QUESTION IS, HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT PUTTING THAT SIDE THAT WAS LIKE, WELL AS SOON AS YOU SAID THAT, I HEARD SOME RESOUNDING NOS FROM THE AUDIENCE . AND SO YEAH, I KNOW THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT WHO LIVE ON COFFIN. I, I DO UNDERSTAND. AND, AND THE TOWN HOMES, I MEAN THEY ARE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY THEY WANT TO MAKE AIR COURT PRIVATE IS BECAUSE [02:40:01] THEY FEEL LIKE THERE'S TOO MUCH TRAFFIC ALL ALREADY. UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE ACTUALLY GLAD THAT OUR GARAGE ACCESS WASN'T ON KAUFMAN. IF YOU LOOK AT THE REALLY THE RIGHT OF WAY OF KAUFMAN, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT IS, IT'S IMPROVED. SURE. BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S ASPHALT NOT CONCRETE AND PAVEMENT. AND SO, YOU KNOW, POLK IS SET UP, YOU'VE GOT THIS IN YOUR LONG TERM VISION PLAN FOR THE BIKE LANES, FOR THE, THE, FOR THE REINVESTMENT AND, AND IMPROVEMENT ON POLK. AND YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU TALK ABOUT LIKE PERHAPS MAYBE HAVING A, A FUTURE EVENT, YOU KNOW, AND SHUT DOWN POLK, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD POTENTIALLY SHUT DOWN MCKINNEY AND HALF OF POLK, UM, AND YOU WOULD STILL HAVE CIRCULATION. YOU WOULD STILL HAVE ACCESS TO ALL THOSE PUBLIC PARKING SPACES THAT WE'RE PROVIDING. UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S KIND OF HOW WE'VE CONFIGURED OUR GARAGE AND OUR OPEN SPACES. YEAH, THAT'S THE CHALLENGE. I MEAN SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, WE LOOK AT WALKABILITY, SOMETIMES WALK, YOU KNOW, IF IT IS GOOD FOR INDIVIDUAL WALKABILITY IS NOT GOOD FOR THE, SOMETIMES IT MAY NOT BE GOOD FOR THE WHOLE COMMUNITY WALKABILITY. SO NOTHING IS CUT AND PASTE THAT WE DO IN THE COMPUTER, CUT AND PASTE OR USE THAT. SO EVEN THIS YEAR, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT CUT AND PASTE SOLUTION THERE. UH, AND BUT IF WE HAVE THE OVERALL VISION THERE, I THINK THAT'S WHAT I THINK WE NEED TO REALLY FOCUS. BUT HOW THAT WILL, YOU KNOW, MAKE THE OVERALL VISION MORE CLOSER. WE MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO GET WHAT EXACTLY WE WANT, BUT WE SHOULD TRY TO GET CLOSE TO IT. SO IF WE HAVE THAT ACCESS GARAGE ACCESS THERE, MAYBE THE PUBLIC OPEN SPACE COULD HAVE BEEN MORE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF, UH, YOU KNOW, GARAGE ACCESS THAT, THAT WAY DURING THE BUSY TIME THAT PUBLIC OPEN SPACE COULD BE UTILIZED A BETTER WAY. JUST A THOUGHT. I DON'T KNOW. HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT THAT? ANYTHING THAT THE DIMENSIONS AND HOW WE CAN DESIGN THIS. THE OPEN SPACE DOES WORK A LOT BETTER ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE BLOCK. IT WOULD COME AT, WE REALLY NEED THE LEASING AND AMEN SPACE TO BE THERE. AND THERE'S A LOT LESS, LESS, LIKE IF WE PUT IT THERE, WE CAN'T REPLACE IT ANYWHERE ELSE BECAUSE PUTTING, BUILDING OVER THERE ON THE EAST, IT GETS TOO TIGHT IF WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE UP THE DENSITY. SO WE'RE TRYING TO COME UP WITH A, A PROJECT, RIGHT, THAT IT'S NOT PERFECT FOR EVERYBODY, BUT IT'S A BALANCED APPROACH. AND DOING WHAT YOU'RE SAYING WOULD COME AT A COST OF DENSITY AND, AND IT'S ONE THAT WOULD MAKE THE PROJECT AT LEAST THE OPEN SPACE MOVE. UM, I DON'T SEE IT PENCILING 'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA LOSE A BUNCH OF UNITS. UM, IN TERMS OF THE KAUFMAN ACCESS, THAT AGAIN IS, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE RESPONDING TO FEEDBACK WE GOT FROM THE COMMUNITY. IS THERE A SOLUTION? YES, BUT IT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T BELIEVE IT'D BE SUPPORTED BY THE NEIGHBORS TO THE SOUTH. UM, YOU COULD SURELY SEE HOW THE ENTRANCE COULD CHANGE AND WIDTH AND THAT COULD WORK. BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT THE COMMUNITY, UM, THAT'S HERE TONIGHT OR SOMEONE I DO UNDERSTAND. I MEAN THERE IS LIKE NOW WE HAVE THAT PUBLIC OPEN SPACE, BUT NOW I HEAR THAT YOU HAVE THE, SOME STUDY YOU HAVE DONE FOR THE RETAIL THAT'S NOT GOING TO WORK. UH, BUT YOU KNOW, WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO LOOK ALSO THE REGION WHY THOSE SPACE THAT NOT UTILIZED TODAY, THOSE, YOU KNOW, 34% THAT'S BACKEND ALL THOSE NUMBERS. UH, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASON WE ARE TRYING TO CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT THAT WOULD BE MORE USED. SO, AND IF SOME OF THE BUSINESS THERE RIGHT NOW, DALE YAMI BAR, THOSE THING, UH, ESPECIALLY THE YAMI BAR, IF YOU WOULD HAVE GONE WITH THE STATISTICS, YOU WOULD NOT START THE BUSINESS RIGHT THERE WITH THAT SMALL THINGS. AND THEY ARE SUPER BUSY, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T NEED ANY SUPPORT. UH, THEY DON'T HAVE TO GET THE RENT RENTAL SUPPORTS. THEY CAN MAKE IT. UH, SO, SO IF WE CAN GIVE THEM RIGHT ENVIRONMENT, UH, ABSOLUTELY SOME OTHER PLACE MIGHT BE BACKEND, BUT YOUR PLACE WILL BE REALLY BUSY. UH, SO I, I HOPE, I WISH THAT YOU HAD THAT OPEN SPACE, SOME RETAIL THERE TOGETHER WITH IT. UH, IF YOU, IF YOU WOULD HAVE, UH, UH, LOOK AT THAT OPTION, THINK ABOUT YOU HAVE SOMETIMES TO THINK ABOUT NEXT UNTIL WE TALK ABOUT THIS, I'M SURE THERE WILL BE LOTS OF CONVERSATION. SO IF WE COULD ADD THE OPEN SPACE WITH SOME RETAIL IN IT. AND I DO UNDERSTAND THE RETAIL IS NOT RIGHT NOW, THERE ARE LOTS OF VACANT SPACE IN THE FUTURE. THE GOAL IS THAT I, I'M, I'M CONFIDENT PRETTY MUCH, BUT I DON'T HAVE ANY STUDY, UH, THAT THE, IT'LL BE HIGHLY DEMANDING SPACE FOR RETAIL. I LIVE PRETTY CLOSE TO THIS PLACE. I CAN REALLY WALK THERE AND, UH, I PROMISE I'LL WALK IF YOU HAVE A COFFEE SHOP THERE. AND, UH, SO [02:45:01] THAT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE HAD THEN, AND THAT WAY YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE NORTH SIDE, BUT THAT WAY YOU WILL ACTIVATE THE SOUTH SIDE ALSO IF THERE IS ANOTHER OTHER BUSINESS COMES. BUT RIGHT NOW THE WAY YOU HAVE IT IS YOU'RE PRETTY MUCH FOCUSING ON THE NORTH SIDE BUSINESS. AND TRAFFIC COULD BE ALSO DIRECTING TOWARDS THE NORTH SOUTH WOULD BE NOT THAT MUCH FOCUS. IT WOULD BE MOSTLY MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL IN THE BACK. SO JUST A THOUGHT I WOULD COMMENT ON THE OPEN SPACE IS SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. UM, HAVING WORKED ON A LOT OF PROJECTS, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS WE HEAR FROM A LOT PEOPLE A LOT SMARTER THAN ME IN TERMS OF URBAN PLANNERS AND ARCHITECTS IS, YOU KNOW, I THINK HUMAN NATURE IS TO THINK, OH, I GOT OPEN SPACE HERE. LET'S CONCENTRATE MORE THERE. IT'LL BE GREAT. WE HAVE ALL THIS ENERGY. I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE SEEN HAPPEN IN LIKE, CITIES THAT ARE MUCH OLDER THAN OURS, UM, AND, AND THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES AND AROUND THE WORLD AND, AND THINGS THAT WE'VE TRIED TO INCORPORATE ON PROJECTS AND EVEN SOME THINGS I THINK WE DID SUCCESSFULLY IN CARROLLTON, IS HOW DO YOU CREATE LITTLE MOMENTS THAT ARE, ARE SEPARATE FROM OTHER MOMENTS? AND IT, IT CAN MAKE A BLOCK MUCH MORE INTERESTING IF YOU, IF YOU WALK ALONG AND COME UPON A SPACE THAT'S SEPARATE FROM ANOTHER SPACE AND YOU GO DOWN ANOTHER FEW HUNDRED FEET AND YOU'RE LIKE, OH WOW, LOOK AT THIS. AND, AND IF WE PUT IT ALL IN ONE SPOT, YOU HAD YOUR MOMENT AND THEN YOU GO ABOUT AND THERE'S NOTHING THERE. AND I THINK WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE AN ENTIRE BLOCK 580 FEET INTERESTING, AND ONE THAT FEELS MORE LIKE A JOURNEY AND IT'S A LITTLE UNIQUE AND MAYBE IT'S A LITTLE COUNTERINTUITIVE 'CAUSE I TOO WOULD THINK, LET'S PUT IT ALL CLOSE TO EACH OTHER, CREATE THIS PLAZA, THIS ENERGY, IT, IT COULD WORK. AND, AND I'M NOT CRITICIZING IT, I'M JUST ASKING TO THINK OF ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE, UH, WHERE, YOU KNOW, AN AN INTERESTING JOURNEY ALONG POKE, UM, COULD ALSO BE ADDITIVE AS WELL. I LOVE YOUR ANSWER THAT, UH, YOU WANNA MAKE 580 FEET MORE INTERESTING. SO IF YOU CAN ADD MORE DETAIL THERE, THAT WOULD BE DEFINITELY SOME INTERESTING THINGS. THANK YOU. YOU'RE, YOU'RE WELCOME. NOT SEEING ANY MORE QUESTIONS, BUT KEVIN AND JOEL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND I'LL ADD ONE THING TO MR. CHU. DON'T FORGET, WE APPROVED A, UM, ANOTHER, UH, PROJECT CALLED THE NEST JUST RIGHT THERE. AND THERE'S GONNA BE ALL KINDS OF RETAIL WITHIN THAT GREEN SPACE, WHICH WILL BE OPEN GREEN SPACE WITH MULTIPLE RETAIL. AND I THINK THAT YOU'RE GONNA GET EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT ONCE THAT HAPPENS. AND I THINK THAT'LL BE EXTREMELY, EXTREMELY POSITIVE. SO MAYOR, YES, BEFORE YOU GET THE BOTH HERE, AND I, I'D LIKE TO FOLLOW UP ON COUNCILMAN CORCORAN'S QUESTION. I, I FEAR I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION AND AFTER REFLECTING AND EVEN EVEN VISITING WITH, UM, CHARLES ON WHAT WE HAD DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY, UM, COUNCILMAN, I THINK MAYBE THE ANSWER, UH, THAT I SHOULD HAVE OFFERED THE FIRST TIME WAS AS WE EVALUATED OH, THAT'S OKAY. NO, NO WORRIES. I, UH, COUNCILMAN, I WAS SAYING AS, AS I REFLECTED MORE THAN YOUR QUESTION, I, I DON'T THINK I PROBABLY ANSWERED THE QUESTION YOU ASKED MAYBE. UH, I WAS VISITING WITH CHARLES ON WHAT WE HAD SHARED PREVIOUSLY ABOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND UM, AS WE EVALUATED, UM, THE PROS AND CONS OF REINVESTING APPROXIMATELY 3.6 TO $4 MILLION IN RECONSTRUCTING MCKINNEY, UM, THERE WAS NOT A SIGNIFICANT, UM, BENEFIT TO THE CAPACITY OF OUR WATER WASTEWATER, EVEN ANY IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE WOULD SEE AS A RESULT OF THE STORM SEWER, UM, THAT WOULD GO ALONG AND BE REQUIRED TO REBUILD MCKINNEY. AND SO I THINK WHEN WE, WE WERE LAST DISCUSSING THE DOWNTOWN AREA AND THE OVERALL INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT, UM, THAT MAY HAVE BEEN, UM, THE DISCUSSION THAT MAYBE YOU WERE RECALLING AND, UM, IT WAS, IT WAS MORE ABOUT A COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS OF IF WE WERE GOING TO SPEND DOLLARS ON INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, WOULD THOSE BE THE BEST USE OF THOSE DOLLARS OR COULD WE PUT THOSE IN, IN DIFFERENT IMPROVEMENTS THAT WOULD ACTUALLY NET US BENEFITS ON OUR WATER WASTEWATER AND STORM STORM SEWER. UM, SO THAT, THAT'S WHAT I RECALL, UH, FROM, FROM THE PRIOR CONVERSATION. YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S THE CONTEXT I WAS LOOKING FOR. THANK YOU. OKAY. I APOLOGIZE, . THANK YOU JOEL. KEVIN, THANK YOU. WE ASK YOU TO TAKE A SEAT. WE MAY ASK YOU TO COME BACK THIS TIME. WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. MS. EMER? YES, MAYOR, I HAVE 17 PEOPLE REGISTERED TO SPEAK. THE FIRST ONE WILL BE JORDAN CONNOLLY, FOLLOWED BY CARRIE NER. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL MEMBERS, MR. MAYOR NEIGHBORS. UM, MY NAME IS ROBERT JORDAN CONNOLLY. I LIVE AT 1 26 EAST KAUFMAN STREET, RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. UM, I'M OPPOSED. UM, SO THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT PLAN, IT'S, IT'S BASICALLY LIKE TRYING TO STICK A SQUARE PEG [02:50:01] INTO A TRIANGLE HOLE. FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN, IT JUST DOESN'T FIT. IT'S TOO BIG. WE'RE TALKING A SUPER BLOCK HERE. THE INFRASTRUCTURE CURRENTLY THAT WE HAVE WOULD NEED TO BE COMPLETELY REDONE. UH, WE'VE GOT ELECTRICITY LINES, INTERNET LINES GOING THROUGH ALL THAT WOULD NEED TO BE REDONE. UM, LET'S SEE HERE. THIS IS PART OF THE OLDEST AREAS IN RICHARDSON. MY HOUSE WAS BUILT IN THE MID 1930S, STARTED OUT AS A FARM ENCOMPASSING SOME OF THE OTHER PROPERTIES. MY FAMILY HAS LIVED THERE 30 PLUS YEARS. WE'VE GROWN VERY CLOSE TO OUR HOME AND OUR COMMUNITY. THE NEIGHBORS BEHIND ME, UM, THE WIFE WAS MY LUNCH LADY IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, UM, AND NOW HER DAUGHTER IS ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS. THIS PLAN IS NOT WHAT DOWNTOWN RICHARDSON SHOULD BE. I'VE SPOKEN WITH MANY FRIENDS, FAMILY MEMBERS, AND I HAVE NOT HEARD ONE BEING IN FAVOR OF THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. THE PASS, FOR EXAMPLE, SEEMS NICE WITH DRAWINGS AND ARE, BUT IN REALITY WE'RE JUST WALKING THROUGH A PARKING GARAGE. MY HOUSE FACES NORTH AND ME AND MY NEIGHBORS WOULD HAVE A VERY LARGE BUILDING BLOCKING OUR VIEWS, WHICH MAY BE A BIT SELFISH FOR US, BUT IT SEEMS AS THOUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS A WHOLE WOULDN'T BE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ANYMORE. UM, ANOTHER ISSUE IS THE TRAFFIC. KAUFMAN IS A VERY SMALL STREET, BARELY ENOUGH FOR TWO CARS AT ONE. EITHER WAY AWAY, THE PROPOSED DESIGNS WOULDN'T GIVE US ANY ROOM, BARELY FOR TWO LANES PLUS A BIKE LANE AND PARKING, WHICH TAKES US TO POLK IN THE PARKING GARAGE. CURRENTLY POLK IS A TWO-WAY ROAD WITH SOME DIAGONAL PARKING, AND IF WE HAVE A FIVE STORY GARAGE ON THAT SIDE WITH THOSE ON THAT STREET, THAT WOULD CREATE BACKUP ALL TIMES DURING THE DAY. WHAT WORRIES ME ABOUT THAT SPECIFICALLY IS OUR POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENT IS RIGHT ON THE CORNER THERE. IF THERE'S BACKUPS ON POLK AND ON GREENVILLE ANYTIME DURING THE DAY AND OUR FIREMEN OR OUR POLICEMEN NEED TO GET SOMEWHERE, THEY MIGHT BE INTERRUPTED BY THAT. SO NOT ONLY IS IT PERSONAL TO ME, BUT UH, I FEAR FOR CERTAIN SAFETY PRECAUTIONS AND JUST AN OVERALL NUISANCE TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. I LOOK AT DOWNTOWN PLANO, I LOOK AT DOWNTOWN WILEY AND OTHER AREAS. I LIKE THAT. AND A LARGE SQUARE BLOCK BUILDING IN THE MIDDLE IS NOT WHAT MAKES THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS BEAUTIFUL. OUR CURRENT NEIGHBORHOOD IS WHAT MAKES IT BEAUTIFUL. WE HAVE MANY LARGE, VERY OLD TREES THAT HAVE STOOD THERE FOR DECADES AND DECADES AND ALL OF THOSE WOULD HAVE TO BE TORN DOWN AS WELL. WE TALK ABOUT WALKABILITY IN THE CITY'S PLANS AND THIS WOULD TAKE AWAY FROM THAT AS WELL. UM, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT BEFORE I END, UM, THERE HAVE JUST BEEN A NEW VERY LARGE AMOUNT OF BUILDINGS OR OF APARTMENTS BUILT RIGHT BY US, LESS THAN A BLOCK AWAY. THEY HAVEN'T EVEN OPENED YET FOR PUBLIC. I PERSONALLY DO NOT SEE THE NEED FOR ANOTHER [02:55:02] LARGE GROUP OF APARTMENTS TO BE ADDED IN, AND I BELIEVE MY COMMUNITY STANDS WITH ME. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU CARRIE NER. AND NEXT, UH, FOR THAT WILL BE PAT KINDER. HELLO. UM, MY NAME IS CARRIE NER. DON'T FEEL BAD. NO ONE PRONOUNCES IT. RIGHT. UM, AND MY HUSBAND MARK AND I LIVE IN THE RED BRICK HOUSE AT ONE 14 EAST KAUFMAN STREET. OUR HOME, WHICH WAS BUILT IN 1930, SITS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PROPOSED SITE OF THE POLK STREET RESIDENCES AND WE'RE OPPOSED TO THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN. I JUST WANNA SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ME BECAUSE MOST OF YOU OR ALL OF YOU DON'T KNOW WHO I AM AND I DON'T WANNA SPEAK TO YOU AS A STRANGER. I GREW UP ON PHILLIPS STREET ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BLOCK FROM WHERE WE CURRENTLY LIVE. I WENT TO TERRACE ELEMENTARY, RICHARDSON JUNIOR HIGH AND RICHARDSON HIGH SCHOOL. I GRADUATED FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AND WAS A MIDDLE SCHOOL TEACHER IN AUSTIN FOR 20 YEARS BEFORE MOVING BACK HOME TO RICHARDSON. NOW I WORK FROM HOME AND FROM LOCAL COFFEE SHOPS AS A WRITER. I'M THE AUTHOR OF THE GHOSTLY TALES OF DALLAS, AND I ALSO VOLUNTEER WITH THE NORTH TEXAS WILDLIFE CENTER, WHERE I HELP PEOPLE IN OUR CITY AND ACROSS THE METROPLEX WHO HAVE FOUND INJURED AND ORPHANED WILDLIFE. SO THE NEXT TIME A BABY SQUIRREL FALLS OUT OF ITS TREE DURING A STORM, GIVE ME A CALL. THAT'S ALL TO SAY THAT I'M FROM HERE. I LIVE HERE, I WORK HERE, AND I CARE ABOUT THE PEOPLE AND ANIMALS IN OUR COMMUNITY. MY OPPOSITION TO THE POLK STREET RESIDENCES IS NOT A CASE OF THE NOT IN MY BACKYARD SYNDROME OR THIS CASE, NOT IN MY FRONT YARD. UM, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO CHANGE IN DEVELOPMENT IN RICHARDSON, BUT I AM OPPOSED TO CHANGES THAT NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE CULTURE OF OUR DOWNTOWN AND DEVELOPMENT THAT EXCEEDS THE CURRENT ZONING CODES AND PROJECTS THAT DO NOT TAKE IN THE CONSIDERATION, UH, OF THE IMPACT ON THE NEIGHBORS. THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE POLK STREET RESIDENCES WOULD CLOSE A DOWNTOWN STREET AND DEMOLISH ONE OF THE GEMS OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS STAYCATION COFFEE. IT WOULD ADD 275 PLUS RESIDENTS TO AN ALREADY BUSY AREA. AND ORIGINALLY I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO TAKE AWAY PUBLIC PARKING FOR DOWNTOWN FESTIVALS AND EVENTS. IT SEEMS THAT THEY HAVE SOLVED THAT. I'M NOT SURE IF THAT PARKING WILL REALLY BE EFFECTIVE ONCE WE ADD ALL THOSE NEW RESIDENTS TOO, BUT WE'LL SEE. UM, IT WOULD PUT A FOUR STORY BUILDING WHERE THE CODE ONLY ALLOWS FOR THREE DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM SINGLE STORY HOMES WITHOUT ADDING ANY ADDITIONAL BENEFITS FOR THE PEOPLE LIVING IN THOSE HOMES. AND Y'ALL TALKED ABOUT NOT WANTING THAT BIG WALL OF BUILDING DOWN POLK STREET. WELL, WE DON'T WANT IT DOWN KAUFMAN EITHER. THE BREAKS THAT THEY WERE MENTIONING THAT KEEP THAT FROM BEING THE BIG SEA WALL OR WHATEVER YOU CALLED IT, THOSE BREAKS ARE NOT ON THE KAUFMAN SIDE. SO WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A WALL OF A FOUR STORY BUILDING, AND I KNOW THAT IF YOU'RE STANDING ON THE SIDEWALK ON KAUFMAN STREET AND YOU LOOK UP, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE THOSE EXTRA FOUR FEET OR, OR WHATEVER. BUT IF YOU'RE IN MY BACKYARD, YOU WILL FOR SURE. UM, SO MAYBE THAT'S WHY THE DEVELOPERS DIDN'T INITIALLY CONTACT ANY OF US WHEN PLANNING THIS PROJECT. UH, TRAMMELL CROW DID NOT REACH OUT TO A SINGLE HOMEOWNER ON KAUFMAN STREET PRIOR TO THE ZONING MEETING. IN FACT, THEY HAD SO LITTLE CONCERN FOR THEIR NEAREST NEIGHBORS THAT THEY PRESENTED A PLAN TO THE COMMITTEE, WHICH INCLUDED AT AMSTER IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE AND NO VISUAL FOR WHAT THE KAUFFMAN SIDE OF THE BUILDING WOULD LOOK LIKE. BASICALLY TREATING THE STREET FACING THE HOMES OF LONGTIME RICHARDSON RESIDENTS LIKE AN ALLEY. SINCE THEN, THEY HAVE MET WITH US AND THEY HAVE OBVIOUSLY MADE SOME CONCESSIONS BASED ON OUR FEEDBACK, WHICH I DO APPRECIATE. UM, WE ASK THAT THEY MOVE THEIR TRASH COLLECTION TO TEXAS STREET, WHERE IT WILL NOT IMPACT ANY HOMES. UH, THEY KEPT IT WHERE IT IS, BUT THEY DID MAKE IT INTO A TRASH COMPACTOR. I DON'T HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE WITH THOSE TO KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S GOING TO BE A NUISANCE OR NOT. I'VE HEARD THAT THEY'RE VERY LOUD, BUT AT LEAST THEY, THEY DID MAKE THAT CHANGE. I STILL, I STILL THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER TO PUT IT ON A STREET WHERE THERE ARE NO HOMES DIRECTLY ACROSS. UM, WE ASK THAT THEY LEAVE MCKINNEY STREET OPEN OR INCLUDE A PATH FOR PEDESTRIANS. UM, THEY'RE STILL CLOSING MCKINNEY STREET. THEY DID ADD A PATH THROUGH THEIR BUILDING AND PARKING GARAGE. UM, SO WE APPRECIATE THAT. AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW HOW SAFE I'LL FEEL WALKING BACK AND FORTH THROUGH A PARKING GARAGE WHEN IT'S BUSY, BUT WE'LL SEE. UM, AND WE ASK THAT THEY MAKE THEIR APARTMENT BUILDING THREE STORIES INSTEAD OF FOUR, AND THEY SAID NO. UM, OBVIOUSLY I FEEL THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD NEGATIVELY IMPACT ME PERSONALLY. UM, IT WOULD TAKE AWAY THINGS I LOVE AND USE LIKE MY COFFEE SHOP AND MCKINNEY STREET AND MY VIEW OF THE SKY OUT OF MY DINING ROOM WINDOW, UM, WITHOUT ADDING ANYTHING TO ENHANCE MY EXPERIENCE LIKE RETAIL. UM, THE ONLY THING THAT THE PROJECT PROMISES [03:00:01] IS MORE TRAFFIC AND PROBABLY MORE DOG POOP IN MY FRONT YARD. UM, BUT I TRULY BELIEVE THAT THIS PLAN WOULD NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE FUTURE OF OUR CITY AS WELL. I'M NOT OPPOSED TO CHANGE IN DEVELOPMENT IN RICHARDSON, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE THE RIGHT KIND. WE NEED A DOWNTOWN THAT ATTRACTS VISITORS, PROMOTES WALKABILITY, AND FLOWS WITH THE SURROUNDING STRUCTURES. SO PLEASE DENY THIS PROPOSAL AND CHOOSE TO DEVELOP OUR DOWNTOWN IN A WAY THAT FOLLOWS THE ZONING CODES, MATCHES THE VISION PUT IN PLACE FOR RICHARDSON, AND TAKES INTO CONSIDERATION THE RESIDENTS IN THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. PAT KINDER AND THEN JASON HUGHES. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS PAT KINDER. UM, MY WIFE AND I, ROBIN KINDER OWN THE HOME AT ONE 14 EAST KAUFFMAN STREET, UH, THAT MY SISTER JUST SPOKE ABOUT. MY AUNT OWNS THE HOME AT 1 22 EAST KAUFFMAN STREET. YOU ALREADY HEARD FROM MR. CONNOLLY. UH, AND THEN MY PARENTS AND MY WIFE AND I OWN MULTIPLE PROPERTIES ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE BLOCK ON PHILLIPS STREET. UH, WE HAVE, UH, OWNED PROPERTY ON THE BLOCK FOR 80 YEARS AND WE OPPOSE THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, UH, STRONGLY, AND WE REQUEST THAT THE CITY COUNCIL DENY THE, UH, PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. THE HOMEOWNERS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF KAMAN STREET, AS MY SISTER MENTIONED, WERE NEVER APPROACHED BY THE DEVELOPER AND NEVER INCLUDED IN ANY DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT UNTIL AFTER THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION MEETING WHERE WE SHOWED UP TO OPPOSE IT. UM, WHILE I SEE THAT THERE WERE 22 MEETINGS, EVEN THE MEETING THAT WE HAD IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE MEETING, UH, WITH THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION, THE REQUEST THAT WE INITIALLY MADE, WE WERE TOLD WOULD LIKELY NOT BE INCORPORATED. AND THEN THERE WAS NO FOLLOW UP ON THAT UNTIL FRIDAY AFTERNOON, UH, WHEN I RECEIVED A CALL FROM MR. HICKMAN AND HE DID WALK THROUGH A LITTLE BIT OF THE CHANGES THEY HAD MADE. AND I REALLY BELIEVE THAT PART OF THE REASON THAT WE'RE HERE TONIGHT IS THAT THERE WAS NO INVOLVEMENT WITH THE COMMUNITY PRIOR TO THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION. AND EVEN THE INVOLVEMENT THAT HAS HAPPENED SINCE THEN HASN'T BEEN ANY KIND OF A COHESIVE MANNER WHERE THE DIFFERENT GROUPS COULD COME TOGETHER AND SEE WHAT CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE OR PROPOSED. UM, YOU KNOW, WALKING THROUGH SOMETHING AT TWO 30 OR THREE O'CLOCK ON FRIDAY AFTERNOON BEFORE THIS MEETING DOESN'T GIVE MUCH OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, HAVE SOME KIND OF A COHESIVE DISCUSSION. SO I THINK BASED ON THE QUESTIONS THAT I'M HEARING FROM THE CITY COUNCIL AND SOME OF THE FEEDBACK THAT, THAT WE'VE HEARD IN PRIVATE CITIZEN MEETINGS, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S UNCLEAR THAT THERE'S A LOT OF CLARITY AROUND WHY THE DEVELOPMENT IS BEING PROPOSED IN THE MANNER THAT'S BEING PROPOSED. UH, I WOULD ARGUE THAT THE DEVELOPMENT DOES NOT FIT WITH THE CITY'S OWN PLAN. CREATING A MEGA BLOCK BY CLOSING MCKINNEY STREET DOESN'T FIT THE CITY'S VISION OF THE EXISTING SMALLER BLOCK GRID IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA. THE MEGA BLOCK WOULD REDUCE WALKABILITY, UH, DESPITE HAVING THE, THE, UH, CONNECTING PATH AS WAS MENTIONED, GOING THROUGH A PARKING GARAGE IS NOT AN IDEAL PATH. THERE ARE SAFETY CONCERNS WITH THAT. UH, HAVING, UH, A STREET LIKE MCKINNEY OPEN AS A RIGHT OF WAY WITH NORMAL PEDESTRIAN ACCESS AND SIDEWALKS WOULD BE MUCH MORE ACCOMMODATING TO A PATHWAY HAVING NO RETAIL ON THE GROUND FLOOR. AS, AS WE UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT REQUIRED BY THE ZONING. BUT I BELIEVE THAT IS THE CITY'S VISION TO INCORPORATE MIXED USE AND RETAIL INTO THE DEVELOPMENTS. UH, DEMOLISHING STAYCATION, WHICH I REALIZE HAS ANOTHER LOCATION TO GO TO, BUT THEY'RE ONLY GOING THERE BECAUSE OF THE, UH, PUSH FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT. UH, AND THE OLD HOUSE THAT IT CURRENTLY OCCUPIES IS, IS A BAFFLING APPROACH TO ME, UH, TO CREATE A FEELING OF CONNECTEDNESS AND BELONGING WHERE RICHARDSON RESIDENTS FROM ACROSS THE CITY ALREADY ENJOY CONGREGATING TODAY. UM, ALLOWING THIS DEVELOPMENT USES SOME CONTRADICTORY ZONING LOGIC. IN MY OPINION. IF THE CITY OF RICHARDSON STILL BELIEVES IN ITS CURRENT VISION IS GOING TO FOLLOW ZONING FOR THE AREA, THEN THE CITY BELIEVES IN THE SMALLER BLOCK GRID SYSTEM, WHICH THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD VIOLATE AND INCLUDING RETAIL ON THE GROUND FLOOR, WHICH THIS DEVELOPMENT DOES NOT ACCOMMODATE. IF THE CITY OF RICHARDSON IS INSTEAD LOOKING AT THE DEVELOPMENT INDEPENDENT OF THE WAY THE AREA IS CURRENTLY ZONED, THEN THE CITY SHOULD NOT BE CONCERNED WITH THE CURRENT ZONING FOR THE BLOCK WHERE WE OWN PROPERTY ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF KAUFFMAN STREET. BUT INSTEAD, CONSIDER WHAT IS ACTUALLY THERE TODAY, WHICH INCLUDES THREE SINGLE STORY, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES THAT ARE WELL MAINTAINED IN HISTORIC STRUCTURES. IMAGINE STEPPING OUT THE FRONT DOOR OF YOUR HOME OR LOOKING OUT THE FRONT WINDOW OF THE GROUND FLOOR OF YOUR HOME AND SEEING A FOUR STORY APARTMENT COMPLEX LOOMING DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF YOU ELSEWHERE. THE CITY'S ZONING DOESN'T SUGGEST A FOUR STORY BUILDING SHOULD BE BUILT DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM AN EXISTING SINGLE STORY HOME. WE HAD NUMEROUS DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THIS FACT 10 YEARS AGO WHEN THE CITY WAS WORKING ON THE ZONING FOR THE AREA. WE WERE ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN THE ZONING PROCESS AND WE FOUGHT FOR THE THREE STORY RESTRICTION ON THE BLOCKS WHERE THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WOULD HAPPEN. IN FACT, THE CITY AGREED WITH THE HOMEOWNERS 10 YEARS AGO THAT IT MADE SENSE TO LIMIT ANY BUILDING [03:05:01] ON THE TWO BLOCKS WHERE THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WOULD OCCUR TO THREE STORIES. YET THIS PROPOSED FOUR STORY DEVELOPMENT WITH A FIVE STORY PARKING GARAGE VIOLATES THAT IN SHORT, UM, THE DEVELOPERS ARE PROPOSING SOMETHING THAT DOES NOT MEET THE CURRENT ZONING CODE, DOES NOT MEET THE APPROVAL OF THE CURRENT NEIGHBORS OR OF A LARGE NUMBER OF CURRENT CITY RESIDENTS, AND DOES NOT EVEN ALIGN WITH THE CITY'S OWN STATED VISION FOR THE AREA. IT ALSO DOES ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DIFFERENTIATE RICHARDSON. INSTEAD IT DISPLACES STAYCATION ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ACTUALLY DOES DIFFERENTIATE THE AREA AND DEMOLISHES A WONDERFUL LOCATION THAT COULD BECOME A CORNERSTONE OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA IF DEVELOPED DIFFERENTLY. DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE NEED MORE APARTMENTS. DEFINITELY DON'T NEED A FOUR STORY BUILDING. DON'T WANT A MASSIVE WALL IN FRONT OF OUR HOMES. AND, UH, RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THE COUNSEL DENY THE REQUEST. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. JASON HUGHES, AND THEN MEGAN SANTO. NICOLA, GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JASON HUGHES AND I LIVE AT 3 2 3 EAST TYLER, UH, IN DOWNTOWN RICHARDSON, UH, RIGHT BEHIND THE FIRE STATION. SO THE SAFEST NEIGHBORHOOD ON EARTH. , UH, I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF RICHARDSON, UH, FOR 18 YEARS AND 12 OF THOSE YEARS HAVE BEEN ON THE EAST SIDE. YOU KNOW, MY FAMILY AND I LIVE, UH, NEAR BELTLINE DRIVE THROUGH DOWNTOWN DAILY FOR SCHOOL WORK AND ACTIVITIES. AND I ALSO HAVE THE PLEASURE OF WORKING DOWNTOWN. WHEN THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN WAS INTRODUCED IN THE OPENING OF STAYCATION IN 2021, WE WERE HOPEFUL THAT THE CITY WAS MOVING TOWARDS ITS VISION OF A VIBRANT COMMUNITY CENTERED DOWNTOWN. THE PLAN ITSELF STATED THE MASTER PLAN GENERATES A CLEAR PHYSICAL, SPATIAL AND COMMUNITY IDENTITY, A FRAMEWORK FOR ECONOMIC GROWTH TO CAPTURE AND CREATE THE NEXT DELIGHTFUL PLACE FOR RICHARDSON STAYCATION WAS A SIGN OF PROGRESS, GIVING US A SENSE OF PRIDE AND IDENTITY AS EAST SIDE RESIDENTS. HOWEVER, OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS, OUR TRUST IN THE CITY'S COMMITMENT TO THE MASTER PLAN HAS FADED. RETAIL SPACES REMAIN VACANT. DESPITE SOME AESTHETIC IMPROVEMENTS, DOWNTOWN STREET LIGHTS ARE NOT FUNCTIONING CONSISTENTLY AND OUTDATED. EVENT SIGNAGE LINGERS LONG PAST EVENT DATES. THESE SIGNS OF NEGLECT SUGGEST A LACK OF FOLLOW THROUGH ON THE PROMISES MADE SEVEN YEARS AGO. WITH THE FUTURE DEMOLITION OF STAYCATION, THE ONGOING RETAIL VACANCIES AND THE APPROVAL OF APARTMENTS EXCEEDING THE THREE STORY ZONING CODE INDICATE THE MASTER PLAN HAS BEEN ABANDONED IN FAVOR OF SHORT TERM SOLUTIONS. MEANWHILE, THE ENVISION RICHARDSON INITIATIVE DOES NOT APPEAR TO PROVIDE A HOLISTIC STRATEGY FOR REVITALIZING DOWNTOWN AS SOMEONE WHO WORKS DOWNTOWN, I HAVE PERSONALLY WITNESSED HOW THESE VACANCIES CONTRIBUTE TO SAFETY CONCERNS, INCLUDING AN INCREASED IN UN AN INCREASE IN UNHOUSED, INDIVIDUALS SEEKING SHELTER IN EMPTY STOREFRONTS, PANHANDLING, AND EVEN HARASSING WORKERS AND VISITORS. LOCAL BUSINESSES DO THEIR BEST TO MA UH, MANAGE THESE ISSUES. BUT THIS IS FAR FROM THE DELIGHTFUL PLACE FOR RICHARDSON THAT WAS ENVISIONED. ANOTHER MAJOR ISSUE IS THE LACK OF PROPER STREET LIGHTING, PARTICULARLY ON POLK STREET, UH, EAST OF GREENVILLE, NEAR APARTMENT BUILDINGS. ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS I'VE HAD TO SLAM ON MY BRAKES EVEN WHILE DRIVING 10 MILES PER HOUR BECAUSE PEDESTRIANS, INCLUDING CHILDREN DART BETWEEN PARKED CARS AND NEAR DARKNESS. THIS ONGOING HAZARD HAS MADE ME AVOID POLK STREET ENTIRELY. ADDITIONALLY, THE EXISTING LACK OF APPROPRIATE PARKING IS ALREADY A SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGE FOR EXISTING RESIDENTS, WORKERS AND VISITORS. ADDING MORE APARTMENTS WITHOUT A VIABLE PARKING SOLUTION WILL ONLY EXHAUST CONGESTION MAKING DOWNTOWN LESS ACCESSIBLE AND FURTHER DIS DISCOURAGING THE RETAIL AND RESTAURANT ACTIVITY THAT THE MASTER PLAN INTENDED SUPPORT. I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A RELIEF OF ADDITIONAL SPACES, UH, WITH THIS NEW PROPOSED, UH, APARTMENT BUILDING. UH, BUT I DON'T, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THAT'S GOING TO ALLEVIATE THE ACTUAL ISSUES IF WE ARE GONNA CONTINUE TO WORK TOWARDS A BUSTLING DOWNTOWN THAT'S EVEN WALKABLE. SO GIVEN THESE UNRESOLVED INFRASTRUCTURE SAFETY AND PARKING ISSUES, I CANNOT SUPPORT YET ANOTHER APARTMENT DEVELOPMENT IN DOWNTOWN. THE MASTER PLAN ONCE PROMISED A DELIBERATE STRATEGIC APPROACH TO REVITALIZATION, YET WE HAVE NOT SEEN REAL PROGRESS IN IMPROVING WHAT ALREADY EXISTS. APPROVING MORE DEVELOPMENT WITHOUT ADDRESSING THESE FOUNDATIONAL CONCERNS IS NOT ALIGNED WITH THE LONG-TERM SUCCESS OF OUR DOWNTOWN. [03:10:01] I URGE YOU TO DENY THIS PROPOSAL AND REFOCUS ON EXECUTING THE ORIGINAL MASTER PLAN IN A WAY THAT IS STRATEGIC AND INTENTIONAL AND BENEFICIAL TO THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY. THE START OF A SOLUTION TO GET THE VISION OF DOWNTOWN BACK ON TRACK IS BRINGING THE RIGHT PEOPLE TO THE TABLE. THERE NEEDS TO BE ACCOUNTABILITY AND VISION THAT IS HEAVILY ORCHESTRATED BY PEOPLE WHO ARE STRATEGICALLY ALIGNED LIKE LOCAL BUSINESSES AND PROPERTY OWNERS. WHEN I SAY PROPERTY OWNERS, I MEAN KEY STAKEHOLDERS THAT ARE THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT TRULY DO CARE ABOUT THE FLOURISHING OF DOWNTOWN AND UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR VALUES ARE. THESE PEOPLE NEED TO HAVE A STRONG PULSE ON THE COMMUNITY WITH CREATIVE AND VISIONARY ACUMEN. AT MINIMUM, THIS IS WHAT IS NEEDED AND WHAT OUR PEOPLE DESERVE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU MS. LIEBER, MEGAN SANTO, NICOLA AND ANDREW LASKA. WE'LL BE AFTER THAT. HELLO, MR. MAYOR. COUNSEL, THANK YOU FOR, UH, ALLOWING US TO SPEAK. UM, I AM HERE OBVIOUSLY IN OPPOSITION OF THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE, UM, FOR THE POLK STREET RESIDENCES AS BOTH A BUSINESS OWNER AND A 13 YEAR RESIDENT OF SPECIFICALLY THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE LIVE RIGHT DOWN THE STREET, WE CAN WALK . UM, I HAVE SERIOUS CONCERNS REGARDING THE IMPACT THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL HAVE ON BOTH MY BUSINESS AND THE SURROUNDING AREA. MY HUSBAND AND I OWN PARTS, A RESTAURANT THAT WE OPENED IN DOWNTOWN IN 2023. ONE OF THE KEY FACTORS FOR THE SUCCESS OF RESTAURANTS IN THE SUBURBS IS PARKING. CUSTOMERS SEEK LOCATIONS THAT OFFER EASY AND ACCESSIBLE PARKING. IT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST COMMENTS THAT WE GET IN RICHARDSON, IS I'M SO GLAD THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO DRIVE TO DOWNTOWN DALLAS ANYMORE. WE CAN COME HERE AND EASILY PARK AND GET IN AND OUT. THE REMOVAL OF OVER A HUNDRED NEARBY PARKING SPACES FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL SIGNIFICANTLY DIMINISH PARKING AVAILABILITY FROM MY BUSINESS AND MANY OTHERS IN THE SURROUNDING AREA. WITH THE STRAIN OF ZERO PARKING DURING CONSTRUCTION FOR UP TO 18 TO 22 MONTHS, I'M DE DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE NEGATIVE IMPACT ON MY BUSINESS AND THE DOWNTOWN AREA. WHILE I JUST LEARNED WHEN I MET WITH, UM, KEVIN FROM TRAMMELL CROW, UH, I ASKED ABOUT PARKING AND WAS TOLD THERE WAS NOT GONNA BE ANY PUBLIC PARKING IN THE, UH, IN THE APARTMENT COMPLEX. BUT AS I JUST LEARNED, UM, THE DEVELOPER SUGGESTED THEY WILL ALLOW SOME PARKING IN THEIR GARAGE. THE SPECIFICS REMAIN SOMEWHAT VAGUE. UM, HOW MUCH PARKING WILL BE ALLOCATED AND HOW WILL THIS SYSTEM WORK? HOW WILL THEY MONITOR WHOSE PUBLIC OR IF RESIDENCE IS, ARE RESIDENCE, ARE PARKING IN THAT PUBLIC SPACE? I URGE THE CITY COUNCIL TO SEEK CLEAR ANSWERS FROM THE DEVELOPER TO ENSURE THAT PARKING REMAINS ACCESSIBLE. UH, WE ALSO, BUSINESSES WILL, WILL ALSO BE GREATLY INCONVENIENCED DURING CONSTRUCTION WITH, UM, IMPOSING STOPPAGES ON OUR UTILITIES, MANY STREET CLOSURES AND WILL BRING MESS THAT WILL SURELY WREAK HAVOC ON OUR PATIO AND SURROUNDING AREAS. HOWEVER, AND I IN RETURN, I FEEL THAT WE, ALONG WITH OTHER LOCAL BUSINESSES, DESERVE A CLEAR AND DETAILED PARKING PLAN AND A COMMITMENT TO UPDATED TRAFFIC FLOW AND INFRASTRUCTURE. WITHOUT A CONCRETE PARKING SOLUTION AND TRAFFIC MITIGATION, THIS PROJECT WILL SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACT OUR ABILITY TO OPERATE SMOOTHLY AND IT'S GOING TO CAUSE INSANE TRAFFIC IN THE AREA, ESPECIALLY ON KAUFMAN. PEOPLE WILL PARK WHERE THEY CAN PARK AND THEY'RE GONNA PARK IN THE GRASS IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSES. UM, WHILE I'M SUPPORTIVE OF GROWTH IN RICHARDSON, I STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT DENSITY PLANNING MUST PRIORITIZE ADEQUATE PARKING AND APPROPRIATE TRAFFIC FLOW FOR VEHICLES, BICYCLES, AND PEDESTRIANS ALIKE TO AVOID CREATING FURTHER STRAIN ON OUR COMMUNITY. IT'S A CONGESTED AREA THAT WILL ONLY WORSEN WITH THE REDUCTION OF PUBLIC PARKING AND WITHOUT IMPROVED TRAFFIC CONTROL. THERE ARE FREQUENT TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS AT THE INTERSECTION OF GREENVILLE AND POLK AS IT IS NOW AND MANY OTHERS AT BELT, UH, BELTLINE IN GREENVILLE, I REQUEST ASSURANCE FROM THE CITY THAT PARKING AND MITIGATED FLOW HAS BEEN CAREFULLY CONSIDERED IN THE PLANNING PROCESS AND THAT IT'LL BE A PRIMARY FOCUS IF AS IF THIS PROJECT MOVES FORWARD. THESE ITEMS ARE ESSENTIAL TO MAINTAINING THE SAFETY, VIBRANCY AND SUCCESS OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA, AND IT SHOULD NOT BE OVERLOOKED. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO NOTE THAT THE ORIGINAL PLAN FOR THE AREA INCLUDED APARTMENTS WITH RETAIL SPACES. HOWEVER, THE CURRENT PROPOSAL LACKS ANY RETAIL. I AM ONE OF THE FEW BUSINESS OWNERS APPARENTLY THAT WANTS MORE RETAIL. I WANT THOSE SPACES TO BE FULL. I WANT A REASON FOR PEOPLE TO COME TO DOWNTOWN RICHARDSON OTHER THAN OPE, UM, MORE, MORE BUSINESSES, MORE BUSINESS, RIGHT? UM, THIS COULD, THIS COULD ENSURE THE PROJECT BETTER ALIGNS WITH THE ORIGINAL VISION FOR THE AREA AND CONTRIBUTE TO THE VIBRANCY OF OUR COMMUNITY. ADDITIONALLY, AS A BUSINESS OWNER AND RESIDENT, I REQUESTED THE DEVELOPER CONTRIBUTE TO IMPROVING THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WITHOUT ANY COMMUNITY INVESTMENT. THE ENTIRE PROJECT FEELS LIKE A WIN-WIN FOR THE DEVELOPER. WHILE THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY BEARS THE COSTS, THE NEW APARTMENTS WILL BE A REVENUE GENERATING PROJECT FOR THE DEVELOPER. BUT THIS GROWTH SHOULD NOT COME AT THE EXPENSE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND OUR SAFETY, VIABILITY AND QUALITY OF LIFE. I URGE THE CITY TO REQUIRE THE DEVELOPER TO INVEST IN INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS SUCH AS [03:15:01] ENHANCED LIGHTING AND CALL BOXES ALONG THE TRAIL NEARBY THAT RUNS NEXT TO THE NEW APARTMENT COMPLEX. THE INVESTMENT WOULD HELP ENSURE THE SAFETY OF RESIDENTS, VISITORS, ESPECIALLY DURING EVENING HOURS AND WOULD CONTRIBUTE POSITIVELY TO THE OVERALL WELLBEING OF THE AREA. IN CONCLUSION, WHILE I'M IN FAVOR OF THE DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH FOR THE CITY OF RICHARDSON, I BELIEVE IT IS CRUCIAL THAT THE CITY COUNCIL ENSURES THIS PROJECT ADDRESSES CRITICAL CONCERNS SUCH AS PARKING, TRAFFIC CON, TRAFFIC FLOW, PARKING DURING CONSTRUCTION AND NEIGHBORHOOD INFRASTRUCTURE. I RESPECTFULLY ASK THE CITY TO DENY THIS PROPOSAL AS SUBMITTED TO ALLOW PROPOSED CHANGES TO BE MADE ENSURING THE DEVELOPMENT WILL BE BENEFICIAL FOR ALL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, ANDREW LASKA. AND NEXT WILL BE DAVID HARRELL. DAVID HARRELL, ARA HERRERA. GOOD EVENING. I'M DAVID HARRELL, 3 8 2 4 SLEEPY LANE, DALLAS, TEXAS. UH, I'M A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE NEST WELLNESS DEVELOPMENT, UH, LOCATED ON TEXAS STREET. JUST A CATTY CORNER TO THIS DEVELOPMENT AS MANY OF YOU ALL KNOW, BUT FOR PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCES, THE NEST IS A WELLNESS VILLAGE, APPROXIMATELY 16,000 SQUARE FEET OF NEIGHBORHOOD RETAIL, INCLUDING INCLUDING A COFFEE SHOP, GREEN SPACE, AND OTHER WALKABLE RETAIL OPTIONS. UM, I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE OF WORKING IN RICHARDSON AND SPECIFICALLY THE CORE DISTRICT FOR MORE THAN 10 YEARS, AND I'M EXCITED TO SEE THE PLAN THAT WAS PUT INTO PLACE YEARS AGO FINALLY COMING INTO FRUITION. I DO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT FOR MULTIPLE REASONS, BUT PARTICULARLY FOND OF THE DEVELOPER'S EDITION OF 111 PUBLIC PARKING SPACES FROM THE 20 SURROUNDING PARKING SPACES ON THE ORIGINAL PLAN. THERE'S A HUGE BENEFIT TO THE AREA AND TO OUR PROJECT SPECIFICALLY. UM, I'M ALSO HAPPY TO SEE THE ABSENCE OF MORE RETAIL. UH, I THINK WE HAVE A LOT OF UNDERUTILIZED BUILDINGS IN THE AREA, AND ADDITIONAL RETAIL WILL JUST DILUTE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES FOR NEWCOMERS. UM, UH, FINAL FINAL NOTE. UM, ANY ACCESS FOR THE PARKING GARAGE ON KAUFMAN, TO ME DOES NOT MAKE ANY SENSE. AS A DEVELOPER OF THE CORNER OF KAUFMAN, I THINK THAT POLK IS SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER CAPABLE OF TAKING ALL THAT TRAFFIC, WHEREAS KAUFMAN WOULD BE CHOKED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MS. ER, ARA HERRERA. JERRY HAWKINS, HARKINS MAYOR, CITY MANAGER. COUNSEL, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO TO SPEAK TODAY. UH, FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW ME, I'M JERRY HARKINS, 1 1 5 EAST MAIN STREET. I OWN TAVERN ON MAIN STREET. HAVE FOR 15 YEARS. I'VE ALSO, UH, WORKED AND LIVED IN RICHARDSON FOR OVER 40 YEARS. SO RICHARDSON HAS BEEN PART OF MY LIFE FOR A LONG TIME. UM, I'M ALSO ONE OF THE ORIGINAL, UH, MEMBERS THAT STARTED THIS WHOLE DEAL. I WAS ON EVERY COMMITTEE. I WAS, UM, IN MEETINGS CONSTANTLY, UH, PRIOR TO TO ALL THE SET THING FOR DOWNTOWN RICHARDSON, UH, WAS COMPLETED. UH, AFTER A COUPLE OF YEARS DOING ALL THIS, I I COMMEND THE CITY FOR, FOR A ACTUALLY GETTING IT DONE AND, UH, WRESTLING WITH PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T WANT IT AND PEOPLE THAT WANTED IT. UM, I WAS A, A BANKER FOR 25 YEARS AND JUST WORKED DOWN THE STREET AT CHASE BANK, BUILDING FOR GUARDIAN MORTGAGE. UH, TAVERN ON MAIN STREET WAS CALLED MAIN STREET LIQUID COMPANY BACK THEN. AND IT WAS MY WATERING HOLE. I NEVER, NEVER REALLY WANTED TO OWN A A BAR AND A RESTAURANT. I WANTED THE REAL ESTATE, BUT IN ORDER TO GET THE REAL ESTATE, I HAD TO BUY THE BAR. SO NOW I HAVE IT ALL . UM, BUT, UH, UH, THE BOTTOM LINE IS WHEN WE FIRST STARTED THIS, EVERYBODY, UM, WAS AGAINST EACH OTHER. UH, AND WHAT FINALLY MADE IT WORK DECIDED TO, TO MIX THE OLD, WHICH OF COURSE I HAVE BUILDING I HAVE WAS BUILT IN THE LATE 18 HUNDREDS, ONE OF THE OLDEST BUILDINGS IN RICHARDSON AND MIX IT WITH THE NEW. UM, AND THAT SEEMED TO BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER. UH, YOU CAN'T ALWAYS HAVE JUST THE OLD, YOU CAN'T ALWAYS PLEASE EVERYBODY. AND I KNOW THE NEIGHBORS ARE UPSET ABOUT THE, THE, THE DEVELOPMENT OFFER HERE. UM, AND THAT'S, THAT'S UNDERSTANDABLE. UM, FROM MY STANDPOINT, UH, MY BUSINESS HAS SUFFERED GREATLY OVER THE COURSE OF 15 YEARS DUE TO COVID, UH, REDO OF THE STREETS, WHICH EVENTUALLY WERE, WERE COMPLETED. AND, AND I THINK THEY DID A GREAT JOB. CERTAINLY THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT [03:20:01] CAN BE DONE TO MAKE IT BETTER, AND I THINK THOSE THINGS WILL HAPPEN. BUT IN ORDER FOR THE MAIN STREET AREA TO BE SUCCESSFUL, YOU'VE GOTTA HAVE MORE PEOPLE IN THE AREA. MORE PEOPLE THAT CARE ABOUT THE AREA. IT'LL NEVER MAKE IT UNLESS YOU ALLOW DEVELOPMENTS IN IT. AND, AND I AM FAIRLY NEW TO WHAT Y'ALL'S DEVELOPMENT IS. UM, I DON'T THINK IT'S TOO BIG. IT'S, IT CERTAINLY IS, IS BRINGING IN, UH, MORE PARKING, WHICH IS, UH, WHAT WE HAVE TO HAVE. UM, AND I THINK IF, IF THE RESIDENTS WHICH ARE UPSET, AND, AND I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THAT AS I SAID BEFORE, UM, CAN TRY TO WORK WITH THESE, THESE GENTLEMEN. UM, I THINK MAYBE WE CAN MAKE THIS WORK. MAYBE THERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS THAT NEED TO BE TWEAKED AND I'M SURE THEY CAN BE. BUT, UH, FOR MY BUSINESS AND OTHER BUSINESSES ON MAIN STREET, UNLESS THIS THIS DEAL GOES THROUGH, I THINK YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A, A HARD TIME ATTRACTING ANY BETTER, UH, DEVELOPMENT. AND I THINK IT'S GONNA GO THE, UH, GO SOUTH. SO I WOULD, UH, I, I WOULD URGE YOU ALL TO THINK TWICE IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS, MAYBE GIVE IT SOME SUPPORT. UM, I, AND AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND YOUR FEELINGS FULLY. UM, I'M THROWING MY SUPPORT TOWARD IT. UM, AND, UM, I UNDERSTAND FOR, FOR YOU GUYS THAT HAVE PROPERTY, IT'S GONNA BE A, A COUPLE OF YEARS OF, OF SOME HARDSHIPS. BUT IT WAS FOR ME ALSO WHEN THE CITY, UH, REDID THE STREETS IN FRONT OF ME. UM, ALL I'M SAYING IS IF Y'ALL COULD TRY TO WORK TOGETHER, I THINK YOU CAN WORK IT OUT BECAUSE, UH, THEY PUT A LOT INTO IT. THE, AND, AND IF YOU DON'T GET THAT APPROVED, I THINK YOU MAY BE SORRY, WHAT ELSE MIGHT COME IN? SO I THROW MY SUPPORT TOWARD IT, UM, UH, ALL HERE IN THE CITY AND I HOPE Y'ALL CAN GET IT DONE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, JERRY. MS. ER, PAT HANAHAN. GOOD EVENING. UH, PAT HANAHAN, 92 18 HEATHERDALE DRIVE. UM, I'M WITH BERT COMMERCIAL AND I AM THE LEASING AGENT FOR 100 NORTH CENTRAL, THE CHASE BANK BUILDING THAT JERRY USED TO OFFICE AT. SO, COINCIDENTALLY ENOUGH, GUARDIAN MORTGAGE WAS OUR LARGEST TENANT WITHIN THE BUILDING. THEY HAD BEEN THERE FOR WELL OVER 15 YEARS. I'VE BEEN WITH BERT FOR 12 OF THOSE YEARS, LEASING THIS PROPERTY FOR THE DURATION OF THAT TIME. UM, GUARDIAN MORTGAGE AT THE TIME HAD WELL OVER 25,000 FEET AND THEY VACATED THE BUILDING AND SUBSEQUENTLY SUBLEASE THEIR SPACE TO A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT TENANTS UNTIL THEIR TERM EXPIRED AT THE END OF NOVEMBER. UM, I FILL YOU ALL IN JUST TO KIND OF TELL THE STORY OF A BIT OF THE PLIGHT THAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING WITH THE OFFICE ASSETS IN RICHARDSON. I LEASED FIVE OF THEM MYSELF, UH, FOR THE TIME BEING. AND, AND LIKE I SAID, I'VE BEEN WORKING IN THIS SUBMARKET FOR WELL OVER 10 YEARS. COVID DID NOT KILL OFFICE SPACE, BUT IT HAS CERTAINLY BIFURCATED THE HAVES FROM THE HAVE NOTS. AND SO THE TWO THINGS THAT WHETHER YOU'RE INTER MIGRATING WITHIN A SUBMARKET OR YOU'RE LOOKING TO RELOCATE FROM A LARGER SUBMARKET OR OUTSIDE OF RICHARDSON IN GENERAL, EVERY TENANT, WHETHER THEY'RE 500 FEET OR 500,000, WANT AMENITIZED SPACE. AND THAT'S NOT JUST THE SPACE ITSELF, BUT IT'S AN AGGREGATE, THE THE DEVELOPMENT AND SURROUNDING AREA. UM, AND THEY ALSO WANT ACCESS TO A PROPER WORKFORCE. AND UTD IS A GREAT ASSET TO HAVE WITHIN THE RICHARDSON COMMUNITY, BUT THOSE FOLKS WHO ARE GOING TO GO GET THOSE HIGH PAYING JOBS, WHO ARE GOING TO BE A RECRUITING TOOL THAT WE CAN USE WITHIN THE, THE COMMUNITY WANNA LIVE IN AN ASSET TYPE LIKE THIS, GROUPS LIKE HIGH STREET DO NOT COME ALONG AND JUST, YOU KNOW, HELICOPTER DEVELOP WHEREVER THEY FEEL LIKE THEY CAN GET A FOUR STORY ASSET OUT OF THE GROUND. I THINK THAT THIS TYPE OF PRODUCT IS, IS, UM, IS INCREDIBLE. IT LOOKS, IT LOOKS LIKE A PLACE THAT, UH, A LOT OF THE FOLKS WHO I'D LIKE TO SEE WORKING WITHIN THE BUILDING AND COULD BE USED AS A RECRUITING TOOL FOR, UH, THE COMPANIES THAT I RECRUIT ON BEHALF OF THE BUILDINGS AND THE CITY IN GENERAL, UH, WOULD WANNA LIVE. AND I ALSO THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THE GENERAL CYCLES ARE, ARE ROOFTOPS RESIDENTIAL, SO ROOF RESIDENTIAL, ROOFTOPS, RETAIL, AND THEN OFFICE. UM, WHEN 100 NORTH CENTRAL WAS BUILT, IT WAS THAT SAME PRODUCT. IT WAS JUST A LITTLE BIT MAGNIFIED, COVID AND EVERYTHING, UM, SUBSEQUENT THAT HAS HAPPENED HAS SHRUNK THAT TO BE MORE NODAL. AND SO I THINK THAT ROOFTOPS LIKE THIS ARE GONNA, UM, SPUR DEVELOPMENT AND PROGRESS WITH THE RETAIL, UH, WHICH SUBSEQUENTLY IS GONNA, IS GONNA CREATE A BETTER OFFICE ENVIRONMENT TO WHERE IT CAN BE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF A MORE HOMOGENIZED TYPE PRODUCT FOR THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT. IT'S A DOWNTOWN DISTRICT AND I THINK THAT THAT'S, UM, WHAT WE'LL ACHIEVE. SO THANKS. THANK YOU, MS. ER. [03:25:01] SARAH MARCELLUS, LUEN BILL, MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH. I'M SARAH MARUS, 3 1 3 SOUTH LO LANE. UM, I LIVE VERY CLOSE TO THIS DEVELOPMENT. I ACTUALLY FREQUENTLY WALK THIS AREA, UM, TO GO GET A BITE TO EAT OR GET A CUP OF COFFEE. I MOVED TO RICHARDSON THREE YEARS AGO WITH MY FAMILY AND I WAS INSPIRED AND IN AWE OF A CITY THAT WAS COMMITTED TO LISTENING AND WORKING WITH THOSE WHO LIVE AND WORK HERE. THAT'S ME. THERE'S A STRONG COMMITMENT TO KEEPING RICHARDSON AND I QUOTE, SAFE, ATTRACTIVE, AND AFFORDABLE. A PLACE FOR FAMILIES TO CALL HOME. LET ME REPEAT THAT. SAFE, ATTRACTIVE, AND AFFORDABLE PLACE FOR FAMILIES TO CALL HOME. THIS APARTMENT DEVELOPMENT DOES NOT MEET THAT COMMITMENT. THESE UNITS ARE SMALL, THEY'RE EXPENSIVE, AND THEY WILL PROVIDE A HIGH TURNOVER FOR PEOPLE WHO WILL NOT SEE RICHARDSON AS THEIR HOME. THESE APARTMENTS ARE AGAINST THE VERY THINGS THAT WE CHERISH MOST ABOUT RICHARDSON, AND THEY'VE ALREADY STARTED TO RUN AWAY PEOPLE AND BUSINESSES THAT MAKE RICHARDSON SPECIAL. WE WANT RICHARDSON TO THRIVE TO BE SUCCESSFUL AND TO BE THE VERY BEST CITY THAT IT CAN BE. OUR COMMUNITY WORE BLUE TONIGHT TO SUPPORT RICHARDSON. IGNORE THE LOUISIANA. I GOT TO TEXAS AS FAST AS I COULD. WE WANT PEOPLE TO MOVE HERE. WE WANT PEOPLE TO LIVE HERE AND CALL RICHARDSON HOME. WE NEED MORE HOUSING. WE NEED MORE PLACES FOR FAMILIES TO LIVE, INVITING MORE CHILDREN FOR OUR SCHOOLS. WE NEED MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. ENCOURAGING OUR TEACHERS IN OUR ISD TO LIVE AND WORK IN THE SAME COMMUNITY. WE NEED MORE HOUSING OPTIONS THAT OFFER PEOPLE AND FAMILIES A PLACE THAT THEY CAN LIVE, A PLACE THAT THEY CAN PUT DOWN ROOTS AND HELP RICHARDSON BE BETTER AND GREATER THAN WE EVER IMAGINED. MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL, YOU PRIDE YOURSELF ON THE COMMITMENT TO THESE SAME PRINCIPLES AND ASPIRATIONS. YOU HAVE BEEN EXCELLENT LEADERS, PRIORITIZING OUR COMMUNITY AND THE NEEDS AND WANTS OF THE COMMUNITY. PLEASE LISTEN TO US AND VOTE NO TO THIS DEVELOPMENT AS PRESENTED. THANK YOU, MS. ER, MARTHA NUON. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS MARTHA KNUTSON AND UM, I AM AT 5 0 2 HIGHLAND BOULEVARD AND I'VE BEEN A RICHARDSON RESIDENT, UM, AND A RESIDENT OF HIGHLAND TERRACE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR GOING ON 13 YEARS. TO SAY THAT I LOVE MY NEIGHBORHOOD IS AN UNDERSTATEMENT. I COULD GO ON FOR TOO LONG ABOUT HOW MY NEIGHBORS HAVE LOVED AND SUPPORTED AND CELEBRATED MYSELF AND OTHERS OVER OUR TIME HERE. AND IT'S MY HOPE THAT THEY WOULD SAY THE SAME ABOUT ME. WE ALSO LOVE THE CITY OF RICHARDSON. IT IS SUCH A BRIGHT AND DIVERSE CITY THAT HAS BROUGHT GROWTH TO MY COMMUNAL EXPERIENCE AND A RICHNESS THAT CAN'T BE FOUND ANYWHERE ELSE. I OFTEN JOKE WITH OTHERS THAT RICHARDSON IS THE SUBURBAN SMALL TOWN BECAUSE I RARELY GO ANYWHERE AND DON'T RUN INTO A FAMILI FAMILIAR FACE AND STRIKE UP A CONVERSATION MUCH TO MY CHILDREN'S DISMAY. RICHARDSON IS A GR IS GREAT AT CELEBRATING ITS STRENGTHS TOGETHER WITH EVENTS LIKE COTTONWOOD ARTS FESTIVAL CULTURE IN THE CORE, OUR FAMILY'S FAVORITE WILDFLOWER MUSIC FESTIVAL, AND SEVERAL OTHERS WHICH CELEBRATE THE GIFTS OF OUR COMMUNITY AND UNIFYING THE CITY AROUND THEM. AS PLANS FOR REVITALIZATION OF DOWNTOWN RICHARDSON HAVE UNFOLDED OVER THE PAST THE LAST 10 PLUS YEARS, WE'VE BEEN VERY EXCITED TO SEE THE SAME STRENGTHS DISPLAYED BY THE CITY AND THESE COMMUNITY EVENTS BE IMPLEMENTED IN A HISTORICAL AND UNIQUE PART OF RICHARDSON. AS A RESIDENT OF HIGHLAND TERRACE, THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT, I WAS ESPECIALLY EXCITED TO SEE THE POTENTIAL FOR WHAT COULD, FOR WHAT IT COULD BRING TO OUR ALREADY VIBRANT NEIGHBORHOOD. I'VE BEEN LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING DOWNTOWN PLANS COME TO FRUITION, LIKE WALKABLE THOROUGHFARES GREEN SPACES TOGETHER, BUSINESSES THAT FOSTER SOCIALIZATION AND PROVIDE A SPACE TO COMMUNE THE [03:30:01] MASTER PLAN BOASTS FEATURES LIKE A MAIN PARK, A WALKABLE STREET PLAZA, TREE-LINED WALKWAYS, AND AMPLE ATTRACTIONS FOR THE WHOLE CITY TO ENJOY OVERALL PROGRESS TOWARDS THIS IN TOWARDS THIS VISION HAS BEEN MUCH SLOWER THAN ANTICIPATED. AND I REALIZE THAT THIS, THAT UNEXPECTED FACTORS LIKE A GLOBAL PANDEMIC AND AN ECONOMIC RECESSION HAVE PLAYED INTO THIS. BUT MORE SO I SEE A LACK OF EXECUTION ON THE VISION BY THE CITY AS A WHOLE. BRIGHT SPOTS AND DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT HAVE SPROUTED UP OUR MODERN POLICE AND FIRE STATIONS, CORNER PARKS BELT AND MAINE, WHICH ALTHOUGH IT WAS ONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT FACED SLOWDOWN, IS A WELL-DESIGNED BUILDING THAT ADDS TO THE AREA WITH BOTH AESTHETICALLY PLEASING RESIDENTIAL SPACE AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR RETAIL DRAW. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE GOT SO LUCKY TO HAVE PART NOBE WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE, AS IT MOST CERTAINLY IS THE BEST PIZZA WE'VE EVER HAD. OUR FAMILY HAS LEARNED THAT WE'RE NOT THE ONLY ONES WHO THINK THIS AND ARE NOW ONLY ABLE TO EAT THERE WITH A RESERVATION. IT'S A WONDERFUL PROBLEM TO HAVE STAYCATION WHAT APPEARS TO BE A MEAGER COFFEE SHOP IN AN OLD HOUSE FOR BOTH MORE COMMUNITY AND GATHERING POWER THAN ANYTHING I'VE EVER EXPERIENCED. NICOLE HAS RUN STAYCATION LIKE SHE'S WELCOMING EACH PERSON INTO HER OWN KITCHEN. REMEMBERING LIKE NAMES LIKE MY OWN FROM DAY ONE. I'M NOT EVEN A DAILY OR WEEKLY CUSTOMER, THOUGH I WISH I COULD BE. THIS COFFEE HOUSE AND ITS YARD HAS BEEN A GATHERING SPACE FOR PERSONAL AND PROFESSIONAL CONVERSATIONS, ARTS EVENTS AND CELEBRATIONS. THE COMMUNITY GOT EXACTLY WHAT IT DIDN'T KNOW IT NEEDED. SEEING HOW EACH SUCCESSFUL IMPROVEMENT HAS ADDED VALUE TO THE AREA, POINT TO THE PROMISING FUTURE IN THE CITY'S PLAN FOR DOWNTOWN. UNFORTUNATELY, THE POLK STREET RESIDENCES DO NOT CARRY THE SAME STANDARD OF EXCELLENCE THAT WE EXPECT FOR DOWNTOWN REVITALATION IN THE CITY AS A WHOLE POINT. ONE, THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL OVERTAKE CURRENT PARKING FOR ADJACENT BUSINESSES AND SUCCESSFUL CITY EVENTS. IF THE CITY WANTS TO DEVELOP EVENTS LIKE CULTURE IN THE CORE AND EXPAND THE GREEN SPACE FOLLOWING THE DART LINE AND NEEDS TO PROVIDE THE APPROPRIATE INFRASTRUCTURE TO DO SO, CURRENT ADJUSTMENTS AREN'T SUFFICIENT. POINT TWO, IT WILL ADD MORE TRAFFIC TO POLK STREET, WHICH IS CURRENTLY, WHICH IS THE CURRENT PREFERRED PATHWAY FOR FOOT AND BIKE TRAFFIC. DUE TO THE HURRIED AND UNSAFE BELTLINE TRAFFIC, ANY IMPROVEMENTS WILL BE NEGATED BY INCREASED TRAFFIC FLOW. POINT THREE, COMBINING TWO BLOCKS AS PROPOSED, BREAKS UP THE GRID SYSTEM THAT DOWNTOWN IS BUILT AROUND ALLOWING FLOW OF WALKING AND BIKING THROUGH THE AREA. A MAJOR GOAL OF THE CITY OF RICHARDSON AND THE CURRENT INITIATIVE FOR THE BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN ADVISORY COMMITTEE. POINT FOUR MORE TO MORE TO THAT. WHERE ARE WE WALKING TO? THERE IS NO CURRENT ATTRACTIONS OR ORGANIZED EFFORTS TO BRING RESIDENTS TO BE, TO BRING OCCUPANTS DOWNTOWN. THIS BUILDING TAKES AWAY CURRENT SUCCESSES AND PROVIDES NOTHING IN RETURN. THIS DEVELOPMENT COULD HAVE GREAT ATTRACTIONS BY EVEN ADDING ONE OR TWO BUSINESSES FACING TEXAS STREET AND THE CURRENTS AND THE CITY'S CURRENT GREEN SPACE, ALLOWING THE TRAIL ALONG DART TO BE A FEATURED THOROUGHFARE TO THE CITY'S GREATEST ATTRACTIONS. POINT FIVE. THE VARIANCE FOR GREEN SPACE AS REQUESTED IS UNACCEPTABLE. THIS AGAIN, CONTRADICTS THE CITY'S GOALS FOR THIS DOWNTOWN AREA. THE CURRENT PLAN IS LAUGHABLE WITH THE GREEN SPACE, STRADDLING THE ENTRANCE TO A FIVE STORY PARKING GARAGE AND SIT SITUATED IN FRONT OF THE LEASING OFFICE. NO ONE IS GONNA CONGREGATE THERE. GREEN SPACE SHOULD BE LARGE AND IT SHOULD BE USABLE BY ALL A GATHERING SPACE FOR FAMILIES AND GROUPS AND BE FEASIBLE FOR MULTIPLE, FOR MULTIPLE USE IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, LIKE LIVE MUSIC AND FESTIVAL SPACE. ULTIMATELY, THIS DESIGN DOESN'T MEET THE STANDARD THAT THE CITY HAS SET FOR DOWNTOWN AS PLANNED AS APARTMENT COMPLEX COULD GO ANYWHERE IN THE CITY OF RICHARDSON. THIS LOCATION IS UNIQUE AND IT DEMANDS HIGHER QUALITY THAN WHAT'S BEING PRESENTED HERE. THE CITY DESERVES BETTER, ITS RESIDENTS DESERVE BETTER. I IMPLORE CITY COUNCIL TO THE, TO DENY THIS MOTION AS PRESENTED. THANK YOU, EGIA. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS TONY PATAGONIA. I HAVE LIVED AT 3 0 9 MARTHA MANOR FOR 36 YEARS. UH, Y'ALL LOOK LIKE YOU NEED A STRETCH BREAK. I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN SITTING IN YOUR CHAIR A LONG TIME. IT FELT GOOD FOR ME. TAKE ONE IF YOU NEED ONE. IF YOU'RE A MEMBER OF HIGHLAND TERRACE OR THE TOWNHOUSES ON KAUFMAN OR KAUFMAN NEIGHBORS, IF Y'ALL STAND FOR A MINUTE, Y'ALL STRETCH YOUR LEGS. THANK YOU. I'VE BEEN HERE. Y'ALL HAVE A SEAT NOW. I'VE BEEN HERE, LIKE I SAID, AT SPRING VALLEY ELEMENTARY KID, NORTHWOOD JUNIOR HIGH. THOSE SCHOOLS ARE NOW CLOSED. AND RICHARDSON HIGH SCHOOL. SO I'VE SEEN A LITTLE BIT OF CHANGE. I BOUGHT MY FIRST BASEBALL CARD SET FOR MY NEPHEWS AT THE CARD SHOP ON MAIN STREET WHEN THERE USED TO BE A CARD SHOP ON MAIN STREET. TOOK MY CAR, TOOK MY CAR TO FIRESTONE. IN FACT, I I DID BATTING CAGES AT TWIN RIVERS BEFORE IT WAS ASSISTED LIVING OR RETIREMENT HOME OR WHATEVER IT'S NOW IT WAS A GOLF COURSE. SO YOU'VE SEEN A LITTLE BIT OF CHANGE IN RICHARDSON OVER [03:35:01] THE YEARS, BUT THE ONE THING I'VE ALWAYS SEEN IN RICHARDSON IS WE HAD THE PLUS FACTOR. THERE WAS AN X FACTOR. IT WASN'T ENOUGH TO BE LIKE CARROLLTON. IT WASN'T ENOUGH TO BE LIKE WILEY. IT WASN'T ENOUGH TO BE LIKE PLANO. AND BACK IN THE DAY YOU DIDN'T EVEN WANNA BE LIKE PLANO. ANYWAY, , WE HAD A PLUS FACTOR. AND I THINK WHAT SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS HAVE TALKED ABOUT, I WILL NEVER SAY WHAT TRAMMELL CROW PUTS FORWARD IS NOT A QUALITY PROJECT. IT'S IT'S QUALITY ALL OVER, BUT DOESN'T HAVE THE PLUS FACTOR. WE'RE LOOKING AT, NOT JUST FOR THE CITY OF RICHARDSON, BUT FOR AN AREA THAT WE AS A COMMUNITY, NOT JUST THE CITY COUNCIL CARVED OUT AND SUB A SPECIAL. WE SAID WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SEPARATE SPECIAL ZONING HERE. AND I CAN LOOK AND I CAN SAY WHETHER IT'S NINE FEET OR FIVE FEET WHERE I'M LOOKING AT, I CAN TALK ABOUT 131 PARKING SPOTS. I CAN TALK ABOUT 580 FEET ALONG A A WALL. BUT LET'S REALLY TAKE A LOOK AT THIS AND SAY, DOES THIS PROJECT BRING PEOPLE TO RICHARDSON? NOT JUST THAT ARE GONNA LIVE THERE, BUT I WANNA BRING PEOPLE THERE. I WANNA TAKE PEOPLE THERE. WHEN I HEAR PARTE NO BASE COMING TO RICHARDSON, I KNOW THEY ONLY, THAT'S ONLY THEIR SECOND RESTAURANT. AND EVERYBODY'S LIKE, WHY IN THE WORLD DID IT GO TO RICHARDSON? THAT, THAT'S A SOURCE OF PRIDE FOR US. WHEN I GET TO TAKE PEOPLE TO CHINATOWN RIGHT OFF THE BLOCK FROM WHERE I LIVE, AND PEOPLE ARE LIKE, GOSH, I NEVER KNEW THIS WAS HERE. WHEN I GET TO TAKE PEOPLE THROUGH THE OLDER PARTS OF RICHARDSON AND SAY YES IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. AND I BELIEVE ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS ON KAUFMAN MAY BE THE ONE WHO BABYSAT MY OLDEST DAUGHTER YEARS AND YEARS AGO. 'CAUSE I DROPPED OFF A BABYSITTER ON KAUFMAN. SOME OF THE OLDEST HOUSES IN RICHARDSON ARE RIGHT THERE. SO I GUESS WHAT I'M ASKING AS, AS A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY HERE, AND I THINK WHAT MY NEIGHBORS ARE ASKING IS WHAT IS THAT SPECIAL WHEN A NEIGHBOR SAYS THIS APARTMENT COMPLEX COULD GO ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE CITY? DOES THAT FULFILL THE COMMITMENT WE MADE TO THE MASTER PLAN? 'CAUSE IT SHOULDN'T JUST GET TO GO ANY PLACE ELSE IN THE CITY AND BE RIGHT'S HAS TO BE SPECIAL HERE. SO, AND I GUESS IT'S WEIRD FOR US TO ASK FOR THINGS THAT ARE SPECIAL. MY PARENTS ALWAYS TAUGHT ME NOT TO BRAG, NOT TO NOT TO ASK LIKE THAT. BUT YOU SEE, I'M NOT ASKING BECAUSE THE CITY'S ALREADY ACTED AND SAID IN THIS AREA THINGS ARE GONNA BE DONE DIFFERENTLY AND THEY'RE GONNA BE DONE DIFFERENTLY FOR A REASON. I THINK WHAT TRAVEL CROW HAS DONE, THEY, THEY'VE DONE A, AN AMAZING JOB OF TAKING A PIECE OF PROPERTY, LOOKING AT IT AS A DOUBLE BLOCK AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO BUILD A PIECE OF PROPERTY WITH, WITH NO BACKDOOR. BECAUSE WHETHER IT'S KAUFMAN WITH HOUSES, WHETHER IT'S GREENVILLE, WHETHER IT'S POLK, AND I'M EVEN GONNA SAY THIS, I THINK WHAT'S BEEN IGNORED TONIGHT IS THAT TEXAS SIDE FOLKS, AND I UNDERSTAND THERE'S A, THERE'S ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT COMING AND I UNDERSTAND THAT IT, IT'LL COME SOMEWHERE DOWN THE LINE. YOU CAN'T HAVE, WE AS A COMMUNITY CANNOT HAVE TOO MUCH ENERGY ALONG THE CENTRAL TRAIL. THE CENTRAL TRAIL IS A DIAMOND IN THE ROUGH. WE'VE IGNORED IT. WE'VE HAD PROBLEMS AT THE SPRING VALLEY STATION WITH IT, WHICH I'VE TALKED TO COUNCILMAN ABOUT. I FEEL SAFER ON THE KATY TRAIL AT NIGHT THAN I DO ON THE CENTRAL TRAIL. IT IS A DIAMOND IN THE ROUGH. THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY IS ONE OF THE FEW THAT WILL FACE IT WITH THIS MUCH EXPOSURE THAT IF WE DON'T HAVE SOMETHING IN BITING ON THAT SIDE AND IT'S JUST A WALL OF APARTMENTS, WE HAVE MISSED AN OPPORTUNITY WE WILL NEVER HAVE AGAIN. I ASK YOU TO PLEASE REJECT AND VOTE THIS PROPOSAL DOWN AND LET'S FIND THE RIGHT ONE WHEN SHE COMES ALONG AND NOT THE FIRST ONE. BEVERLY RAZR, COUNCIL MEMBER MAYOR, I'M BEVERLY RAZR. I LIVE AT 4 0 2 GRACE DRIVE, RICHARDSON, TEXAS 7 5 0 8 1. I'M IN THE HIGHLAND TERRACE AREA. I DON'T THINK WE NEED MORE APARTMENTS IN EAST RICHARDSON AT KAUFMAN AND MAIN STREET. THERE'S 350 UNITS IN THAT NEW BUILDING. GO DOWN THIS, UH, GO DOWN GREENVILLE AVENUE, THREE BLOCKS FROM THIS AREA AND YOU'VE GOT BRICK ROW THAT HAS 548 UNITS. GO UP POLK STREET TO THE OTHER SIDE OF GREENVILLE AND [03:40:01] YOU'VE GOT A WHOLE BLOCK OF APARTMENTS. GO FIVE MORE BLOCKS UP AND YOU'VE GOT FOUR BLOCKS OF APARTMENTS AT BOWSER AND DOROTHY. WE DO NOT NEED MORE TRAFFIC THAT THESE LARGE PROJECTS WILL DRAW TO THE AREA. I'VE LIVED HERE 72 YEARS. I WENT TO GREENVILLE AVENUE WHEN IT WAS AT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND NOT JUST THE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING FOR RISD. I WENT THROUGH ALL MY ELEMENTARY, JUNIOR HIGH AND HIGH SCHOOL AND GRADUATED FROM RICHARDSON HIGH SCHOOL AND THEN CAME BACK AND WORKED FOR 33 YEARS AT RICHARDSON HIGH SCHOOL. THIS IS MY HOME, THIS IS MY COMMUNITY. I'VE SEEN A LOT OF CHANGES SINCE MY HOME WAS BUILT IN 1954 AND THEY'VE ALL BEEN POSITIVE EXCEPT WE'RE OVERSATURATED WITH APARTMENTS IN THIS AREA. YOU JUST AWARDED SHADDOCK AT MIMOSA WITH THEIR HOUSING PROJECT. THAT'S WHAT WE NEED IS MORE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, NOT THESE MULTIPLE HUGE COMPLEXES. EVEN AS LOVELY AS THIS IS, IT DOESN'T BELONG ANYMORE ON THE EAST SIDE OF RICHARDSON. WE ARE SUPER SATURATED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU ELEANOR STONE. HELLO, MR. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO LISTEN TO WHAT I HAVE TO SAY. I ALSO HAVE BEEN IN RICHARDSON A VERY LONG TIME. I THINK I JUST GOT BEAT THOUGH. MY FAMILY AND I MOVED UP HERE WHEN I WAS 12 AND FROM HOUSTON IN 1966. AND I AM STILL RESIDING AT THE SAME HOME AT 2 0 2 5 FLAT CREEK DRIVE IN RICHARDSON. I INHERITED IT FROM MY MOM. AND SO I'VE BEEN HERE A LONG TIME, OFF AND ON. OF COURSE, I HAD TO GO AWAY TO COLLEGE, CAME BACK, UM, I WENT TO, WELL, I WOULD'VE GONE TO CANYON CREEK ELEMENTARY, BUT THEY DIDN'T HAVE A SIXTH GRADE WHEN WE MOVED UP HERE, SO I HAD TO GO TO NORTHRIDGE AND THEN RICHARDSON NORTH AND PIERCE HIGH SCHOOL. UM, BUT WHERE I LIVE IS NOT WHAT I'M HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT. IT'S, IT'S THE BUILDING THAT I OWN AT 1 0 5 EAST MAIN STREET. THIS IS NOW WHERE SHADDOCK CUSTOM HOMES HAS THEIR OFFICES. I WAS VERY FORTUNATE THAT THEY ARE LEASING FROM ME BECAUSE THEY'RE PERFECT TENANT. THEY HAVE DONE AMAZING THINGS WITH THAT BUILDING AND STILL KEPT IT KIND OF IN THE, IN THE SAME GENRE. BUT, UM, I SEE THIS AND I LIKE IT AS A BUILDING OWNER OF THE, IN THE DOWNTOWN RICHARDSON AREA. I WAS IN AT MANY OF THE MEETINGS OVER WHAT, 5, 6, 8 YEARS AGO, WHATEVER. UM, AND WAS VERY EXCITED THAT THEY WERE GONNA BE RENOVATING AND AND REINVIGORATING THE DOWNTOWN AREA. I FEEL LIKE I DID MY PART. . MY BUILDING LOOKS A WHOLE LOT BETTER THAN IT USED TO. UM, BUT I FEEL LIKE ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE IGNORING IS NOT, THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING. I I LIKE IT. I LIKE THE FACT, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE PARKING ASPECT THAT'S BEEN, BEEN ADDED. THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT FROM THE VERY GET GO WHEN EVERYONE WAS DOWN TALKING ABOUT WHAT TO DO WITH DOWNTOWN RICHARDSON, PARKING HAS BEEN A HUGE CONCERN AND THAT THEY'RE ADDING WHAT 131 SPACES, I THINK IS TERRIFIC. IT'S UNFAIR TO ASK THEM TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM. THEY CAN BE PART OF THE SOLUTION, BUT THEY CERTAINLY CAN'T FIX IT. THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED AS WELL. BUT I LIKE THE WAY IT LOOKS AND, AND WHAT, WHAT WE'RE FORGETTING IS THERE'S GONNA BE ACTUAL PEOPLE LIVING IN THIS ENVIRONMENT THAT ARE GONNA BE OUR NEIGHBORS THAT ARE HOPEFULLY GOING TO BE PART OF THAT, THIS WONDERFUL RICHARDSON THAT WE CALL OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR HOME. AND HOPEFULLY THEY'LL FIT IN. THEY'LL BE WALKING THEIR DOGS, HOPEFULLY THEY PICK UP AFTER THEM. , . YOU KNOW, I, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE MISSING AN OPPORTUNITY TO INVITE PEOPLE IN RATHER THAN [03:45:01] KEEP THEM OUT. AND I UNDERSTAND THE CONSTRUCTION'S GONNA BE A PAIN. IT ALWAYS IS. UM, SHADDOCK IS REDOING A LOT OF STUFF IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I, I JUST HAVE TO GRIN AND BEAR IT BECAUSE THEY'RE RE-FIXING A LOT OF THINGS. BUT I I'M VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF THIS. I LIKE THE PARKING, I LIKE THE, EVEN THE PASS THROUGH. I THINK THEY'VE ADDRESSED WITH BRIGHT LIGHTING THAT THEY SPOKE ABOUT THAT WILL MAKE IT A SAFER ENVIRONMENT. UM, JUST TO, AND, AND IT'S, WE'RE NOT TALKING A GINORMOUS WALK TO GET FROM ONE BLOCK TO THE NEXT AND IT'LL BE WELL LIT. I FEEL LIKE IT WOULD BE PRETTY SAFE. UM, THAT'S THE MAIN THING I HAD TO SAY. I JUST WANTED TO, TO PUT MY 2 CENTS WORTH IN IT. I WAS, I APPRECIATED KEVIN COMING AND SPEAKING WITH ME, UH, DOWN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND, AND SHOWING ME THE PLANS. I LIKE THEM. UM, AND I THINK IT'S, IT COULD BE AN, A GREAT ADDITION TO OUR COMMUNITY, NOT A SUBTRACTION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MS. MEMER. TWO MORE CARDS. MAYOR DAVID BOND AND THEN COURTNEY GOEN, EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL WITH DAVID BOND, 26 40 FOREST GROVE, UM, LIVING CANYON CREEK. BUT I SAW THIS ON THE AGENDA AND, AND THE PROJECT TO ME IS VERY EXCITING. UM, I THINK WE ALL LIVED THROUGH THE CONSTRUCTION ON MAINE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. AND, AND I THINK THESE APARTMENTS TO ME ARE, THEY'RE THE NEXT PHASE OF REVITALIZING DOWNTOWN. UH, WHEN YOU LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, CARROLLTON AND PLANO AND, UM, YOU KNOW, EVEN GARLAND AND MCKINNEY, SOME OF OUR SISTER CITIES, ALL OF THOSE HAVE APARTMENTS DOWNTOWN. AND I THINK WE'VE HEARD TONIGHT FROM FOLKS THAT ARE TALKING ABOUT LEASING AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT BRING, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOTTA HAVE THE FOLKS THAT'LL BRING THE COMMUNITIES, UH, I'M SORRY, THE PEOPLE IN, UM, TO SHOP AT PLACES, TO EAT AT THE RESTAURANTS AND ALL THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM THE BUSINESS OWNERS. UM, I KNOW IT'S A CONTRARY OPINION TO MY FELLOW RESIDENTS, BUT, BUT I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS DEAL. UM, YOU KNOW, MY WIFE AND I OFTEN GO AND EAT AT, UH, PLACES IN DOWNTOWN PLANO PARK AT A PLACE NOT UNLIKE THIS WALKTHROUGH. IT'S WELL LIT. IT FEELS NICE. I THINK THAT IT'S KINDA WHAT'S, UH, BEING PRESENTED HERE TODAY. UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'VE HEARD FROM EVEN THE, THE FOLKS AT, UH, TRAMMELL, YOU KNOW, IN CARROLLTON. THERE'S, THERE'S APARTMENTS ALL OVER THE PLACE IN DOWNTOWN AND IT'S, IT'S JUST COOL TO GO. THAT'S, I THINK THAT IT REALLY, I THINK IT'S THE NEXT STEP TO THE MONEY THAT WAS SPENT DOWNTOWN, UH, ON MAINE. AND SO I, I'D URGE YOUR APPROVAL, UM, OF THIS AND, UM, EXCITED ABOUT IT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANKS. THANK YOU, COURTNEY. GOING HELLO AGAIN. CITY COUNCIL MAYOR. REMEMBER ME ? YES. UM, I THINK THAT ONE WORD THAT YOU GUYS HAVE REALLY CELEBRATED TONIGHT IS REVITALIZATION. UM, I'VE STUDIED RICHARDSON'S CORE DISTRICT PLAN DEVELOPMENT FOR PROBABLY TWO YEARS NOW, AND I KNOW IT LIKE THE BACK OF MY HAND. AND, UH, KNOWING THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT WAS A BIG REASON IN BRINGING THE, UM, NEST WELLNESS VILLAGE TO DOWNTOWN RICHARDSON, UH, WHICH YOU GUYS APPROVED A FEW MONTHS AGO, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. UM, JERRY HIT ON SOMETHING VERY INTERESTING, UH, THAT I HADN'T REALLY THOUGHT OF BEFORE. BLENDING SOMETHING OLD WITH SOMETHING NEW. AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING BEAUTIFUL THAT RICHARDSON HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO. UH, WAS CELEBRATING OUR PROJECT AND THE, THE EXISTING BUSINESSES AND ATTRACTING NEW BUSINESSES INTO THE DOWNTOWN CORE DISTRICT AND GIVING PEOPLE, UM, THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPERIENCE THE MAGIC OF RICHARDSON. UM, BECAUSE I HAVE FALLEN IN LOVE WITH THE CITY AS WELL AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF IT. UM, I FORGOT TO SAY MY ADDRESS, 31 30 CROSS TIMBERS RICHARDSON, TEXAS, UM, AS OF LAST YEAR. SO HAPPY TO BE A PART OF THE CITY AND THE DEVELOPMENT, AND I'VE REALLY JUST FALLEN IN LOVE WITH IT. UM, THE NEST WELLNESS VILLAGE AT DUH, I DO FEEL LIKE BRINGS THAT OLD CHARACTER CHARM DOWN TO, UM, THIS DEVELOPMENT OF THE CORE DISTRICT AND PARTNERING SEAMLESSLY, UH, WITH THE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT ONLY GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO GROW DOWNTOWN. YOU LOOK AT EVERY DEVELOPMENT IN DALLAS, EVERY COMMUNITY YOU HAVE, WEST VILLAGE, HIGHLAND PARK VILLAGE, DEEP ELLUM, BISHOP ARTS, ALL OF THEM HAVE AN ASPECT OF MULTIFAMILY THAT COMES INTO THE PROJECT. UM, WE CURRENTLY ARE BRINGING 14 RETAIL SPACES INTO THE DOWNTOWN AREA, AND, UH, 80% OF THOSE ARE PRE-LEASED WITH SMALL LOCAL BUSINESSES THAT LOVE RICHARDSON. AND I THINK [03:50:01] THAT BRINGING THIS COMMUNITY WILL ALSO HAVE A SUPPORT OF THOSE LOCAL BUSINESSES AS WELL. SO WE SEE IT AS A VITAL ASPECT OF THE, UH, SUCCESS OF OUR PROJECT AS WELL. UH, WE EVEN GOT TO SIT DOWN AND DEVELOP A WELLNESS MEMBERSHIP FOR A LOT OF THE RESIDENTS, UH, MOVING IN BECAUSE THEY GET TO COME IN AND EXPERIENCE YOGA CLASSES, A COFFEE SHOP, UM, BEING ABLE TO, UH, THE WALKABILITY, I'M NOT GONNA LIE, I WAS A LITTLE PUT OFF BY THE BEGINNING PLANS OF HAVING NO PARKING, UM, ADDED TO IT. BUT THE MEETING AND THE RESPECT OF OUR PROJECT AND BLENDING IT SEAMLESSLY INTO DOWNTOWN TO CREATE WALKABILITY AND ADDING IN PARKING SPACES, UM, IS EXCITING FOR OUR PROJECT AS WELL. SO I THINK WHENEVER YOU SEE THE ENERGY OF A CITY, UM, I'M AN ATHLETE AND, UH, BASKETBALL IS ALWAYS A GAME OF MOMENTUMS, RIGHT? COACH. AND SO WHENEVER YOU FOLLOW THE MOMENTUM OF EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN CREATED WITHIN RICHARDSON, UH, CBS DID A FEATURE ON US OF BRINGING A BEAUTIFUL CONCEPT FOR COMMUNITY AND MOTHERS INTO YOUR CITY. UM, SO I THINK YOU FOLLOW THAT MOMENTUM. UH, TRAMMELL CROW HAS DEVELOPED A WORLD CLASS TEAM AND THEY'RE GONNA GET IT DONE QUICKLY AND THEY'RE GONNA DO IT WELL. UM, I JUST QUESTION IF THIS DOES HAPPEN, YOUR PLAN DEVELOPMENT, YOU'VE HAD THIS FOR 15 YEARS, UM, WHO ELSE IS GONNA COME IN AND DO A BETTER JOB? SO IF YOU DO APPROVE, UM, I THINK THEY'VE JUST SELL, ASSEMBLED A WORLD CLASS TEAM. UM, AND I WILL SAY THERE WILL BE LABOR PAINS. UM, I'VE HAD THREE HOME BIRTHS, ONE OF THEM UNASSISTED ACCIDENTALLY. AND I KNOW LABOR AND IT HURTS AND IT'S PAINFUL, BUT AT THE END RESULT, YOU HAVE A BEAUTIFUL PRODUCT. UM, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING MAYBE ECHOING SOME OF THE SURROUNDING BUSINESSES TO SEE THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF WHAT WE CAN REALLY CREATE IN DOWNTOWN RICHARDSON. AND I AM COMMITTED TO DEVELOPING A CITY, UM, THAT IS, HAS THAT SPECIAL SOMETHING THAT BLENDS THE OLD WITH THE NEW. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU JOEL. KEVIN, WOULD Y'ALL LIKE TO COME BACK UP TRAUMA CROW AND SEE IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO GIVE A LITTLE MORE INSIGHT TO ANYTHING ELSE AFTER THE COMMUNICATION? WE'VE JUST HAD? . I WANNA BE RESPECTFUL OF EVERYBODY'S TIME. UM, IT'S LATE. UM, I WOULD SAY, UM, CLEARLY WE CAN'T SOLVE EVERYTHING FOR EVERYONE. UM, THREE VERSE FOUR STORIES. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE A, IT DOES NOT WORK FOR US. SO WE, WE, WE'VE TRIED TO COME UP WITH A PLAN THAT WORKS THE BEST AT A DENSITY THAT'S FEASIBLE AND WE CAN SEE THIS PROJECT GET OUTTA THE GROUND. I'D SAY ONE THING THAT WE FEEL LIKE WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF AND WE THOUGHT WE HAD, WE MADE A REALLY GOOD CASE. UM, AND I'LL PUT IT BACK UP THERE. UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A MATTER OF US NOT WANTING RETAIL. LIKE WE WANT RETAIL, WE WANT THE RETAIL TO THRIVE. UM, SOME OF IT ALREADY DOES AND SOME OF IT DOESN'T. WE WANT THAT WANTING SOMETHING DOES NOT MAKE IT HAPPEN. UM, IT'D BE EASY FOR ME TO SAY, YEP, LET'S JUST PUT IT IN. I I THINK THE WORST THING COULD HAPPEN IS IF WE PUT IT IN AND IT SITS THEIR VACANT AND IT ADDS TO VACANCY. I THINK I HEARD SOME FOLKS MENTION, OH, WHAT ABOUT YOU GOTTA THINK LONG TERM. VERY FAIR. I MEAN, YOU DO. AND THAT'S WHAT Y'ALL'S JOB IS. AND I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE FEEL WE COULD DO, UM, WOULD, WHILE WE DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S A MARKET TO IT TODAY, BECAUSE WE THINK WE'VE HEARD FROM RETAIL BROKERS THAT ARE LEASING IN THIS MARKET, WE HAVE VACANCY. WE'RE NOT GONNA BET AGAINST RICHARDSON, BUT WE'RE ASKING FOR, FOR FOLKS TO APPRECIATE. IT'S, IT'S NOT A MATTER OF US WANTING, IT'S, IT'S A MATTER OF THE MARKET BEING THERE. AND SO IF WE BUILD A BUILDING THAT CAN ACCOMMODATE RETAIL LONG TERM, WE THINK THAT COULD ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS WE HA HAD TONIGHT AND MAKE IT A BIT, UM, MORE PALATABLE. MAYBE NOT PERFECT FOR ALL. UM, BUT WE WOULD, UM, AGREE TO ACCOMMODATE 3000 SQUARE FEET OF GROUND FLOOR RETAIL, RETAIL READY, I WOULD SAY. AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS IT CAN ACCOMMODATE, IT WOULD APPEAR TO BE A STOREFRONT THAT COULD ACCOMMODATE RETAIL IN THE FUTURE. TO THE EXTENT THERE'S A NEED FOR THAT, THERE'S A MARKET FOR THAT. 'CAUSE I'LL TELL YOU, IF THERE IS A MARKET, THE THE MARKET'S EFFICIENT, IT WILL GET BUILT. BUT THE BUILDING'S GOTTA BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THAT. AND WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? IT MEANS YOU HAVE THE RIGHT CLEAR HEIGHTS. IT MEANS THAT YOU HAVE STEEL IN THAT STRUCTURE TO BE ABLE TO OPEN THINGS UP. AND IF YOU DO THAT, THEN YOU'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO LEASE IT WHEN THE MARKET'S THERE. NOT JUST WHEN YOU WANT IT, BUT WHEN, BUT WHEN THE MARKET'S THERE. AND WE WOULD COMMIT TO DOING THAT AS PART OF OUR PLAN. UM, AND WE, WE AGREE TO THE EXTENT WE WERE TO DO IT. IT BELONGS ON THE CORNER OVER THERE, UM, AT POLK IN TEXAS. AND SO OUTSIDE OF THAT, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY OTHER COMMENTS TO ME, THAT'S THE ONE THAT KEEPS COMING BACK. UM, WE CAN'T CHANGE THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING. UM, WE, WE, FOR THE REASONS MENTIONED, BELIEVE THE [03:55:01] OPEN SPACE WILL BE VERY SUCCESSFUL IN THE PLACES THAT WE'VE PUT IT. UM, AND WE APPRECIATE, UM, ALL THE FEEDBACK WE, WE HEARD TONIGHT. WE SAT THERE TRYING TO THINK, WELL, YOU KNOW, WHAT ELSE COULD WE DO? UM, THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE CONTEMPLATED, WE RULED IT OUT INITIALLY TO SPACE OFF THE MARKET FUNDAMENTALS. BUT IF WE THINK ABOUT LONG TERM FOR RICHARDSON, SETTING THIS THING UP FOR, UM, REALLY THAT, THAT PLUS FACTOR, LIKE WHAT MAKES RICHARDSON UNIQUE AND DIFFERENT, IF ALL THAT RETAIL IS LEASED AND WE CAN SEE THREE OR 3000 MORE SQUARE FEET LEASED, UM, THREE, FOUR OR 5, 10, 20 YEARS IN THE FUTURE, THAT'S, THAT'S GREAT. BUT IT, IT'S, WE CAN'T FINANCE A PROJECT AND JUST BUILD IT BECAUSE WE WANT IT. UM, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE STRUGGLING WITH. 'CAUSE IT, IT'D BE EASY FOR ME JUST TO AGREE TO EVERYTHING EVERYBODY WANTS AND WE'RE TRYING TO BALANCE IT ALL. SO, ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNSEL. I'D BE LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. MR. CORCORAN. UH, MR. MAYOR, MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. MR. CHEN RIDER. SECOND MOTION AND A SECOND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. ALL IN FAVOR? SHOW HANDS PLEASE. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. COUNSEL, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? MAYOR PRO TEM. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WELL, THIS, YOU KNOW, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS AREA, THE ZONING DOES NOT REQUIRE ANYTHING OTHER THAN MULTI-FAMILY. IF THEY WOULD HAVE TO DO WITHIN THEIR LAND, THEY HAVE THAT IF, YOU KNOW, BUT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, CLOSING DOWN, UH, A STREET, GIVING OUT COUPLE OF THE ALLEYS AND SOME LAND. SO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO, I FEEL LIKE THAT WE HAVE TO GET SOMETHING BACK FROM THE DEVELOPER, UH, TO MAKE THE, MAKE OUR RESIDENTS HAPPY LONG TERM. SO, AND THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S, IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, LAST 15 YEARS I'VE BEEN WATCHING THIS AREA. I'VE BEEN HERE LIKE ALMOST 18 YEARS OR CLOSE TO 19. SO I SAW NOT JUST LAST FEW MONTHS, I KNOW THAT THE DREAM AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WISH FOR THIS YEAR TO BE MORE WALKABLE RECENTLY. AND, UM, AND ALSO SOME, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE CAN ENJOY THE DOWNTOWN AREA. I CALL THIS THING DOWNTOWN. EVEN MY CHILDREN USED TO LAUGH AT ME, UH, BECAUSE DOWNTOWN, YOU KNOW, FOR THEM WAS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT I THINK. BUT I, I WAS LOOKING AT THE FUTURE. SO, AND, UH, SO THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE EVENT THAT WE HAVE YEARLY AT THAT, UH, DARK AREA, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I KNOW THAT IS SOMETHING BIG, BIG DEAL FOR, UH, OUR RESIDENTS HERE. LIKE TO SEE THAT HAPPEN MORE OFTEN. SO WE, WE WANNA SEE THIS AREA ABSOLUTELY MORE WALKABLE AND, UH, TO MAKE A, A WALKABLE AREA. THERE ARE TWO THINGS THAT EVERYONE AGREES THAT THAT NEED. UH, YOU KNOW, ONE IS, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS A DESTINATION TO WALK TO. AND THE OTHER ONE IS, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S A SAFE AND COMFORTABLE. AND, UH, NOW WE CAN TALK ABOUT WHAT IS COMFORTABLE AND WHAT IS SAFE. WE CAN MAKE SURE THIS IS SAFE, COMFORTABLE FOR A GROUP. IT WOULD BE DIFFERENT FOR INDIVIDUAL, IT WOULD BE DIFFERENT. UH, BUT TO ME, I THINK THAT TO MAKE SOMETHING A WALKABLE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOME DESTINATION. YOU HAVE TO GIVE A REASON FOR, FOR THE PEOPLE TO GO WALK. OTHERWISE, IF YOU HAVE TO WALK THAT 10 MINUTES, 15 MINUTES FROM ONE POINT TO ANOTHER POINT, UH, YOU WOULD PROBABLY GO BACK TO YOUR CAR AND TRY TO DRIVE AGAIN. UH, SO YOU, IF YOU HAVE MULTIPLE DESTINATION THERE IN THE, IN BETWEEN, THEN WE WOULD FEEL LIKE WALKING. OTHERWISE, JUST FOR WALKING, WE CAN JUST GO TO ONE OF THE PARK AND WALK AROUND THE PARK AND DONE WITH THE WALKING. SO DOWNTOWN WALKING IS DIFFERENT THAN WALKING AT THE PARK. SO FOR THAT, WE, I THINK WE, WE, WE NEED TO HAVE SOME STORE FROM THERE. AND I DO UNDERSTAND THAT, UH, THE MARKET PROBABLY IS NOT THERE TODAY, BUT I JUST HEARD IF, I DON'T KNOW IF I HEARD CORRECTLY, THAT, UH, THE NEST IS ALREADY 80%, UH, PRE-LIST. UH, SO IF WE HAVE THAT KIND OF DEMAND FOR THAT. SO I DON'T THINK HAVING STOREFRONT THERE WOULD BE REALLY, UH, YOU KNOW, DIFFICULT BECAUSE THOSE STATISTICS IS TOTALLY OPPOSITE WHAT I JUST HEARD. UH, LOOKS LIKE THERE IS DEMAND FOR THIS KIND OF STOREFRONT. SO IF WE HAVE MORE WA YOU KNOW, STOREFRONT, THEN ALONG THAT, UH, POKE STREET OR MAYBE ALONG THE TEXAS STREET LITTLE BIT MORE THAT WOULD GIVE PEOPLE TO WALK, COME TO DALE AND THEN MAYBE THEY WILL WALK TO OTHER SIDE. THEN [04:00:01] THEY'LL WALK AROUND AND THEY'LL GO TO NEST. SO THE WHOLE AREA WOULD BE MORE WALKABLE. IT'S NOT JUST WALKABLE JUST FOR THE RESIDENCE AT THAT PROPERTY OR THE NEXT PROPERTY ALSO, YOU KNOW, IT'S MORE LIKE FOR ME TO ALSO THAT IF, IF I GO AND WALK, I COULD WALK THAT PLACE. I UNDERSTAND NOT EVERYBODY WILL BE WALKING THAT PLACE. THEY'LL BE COMING AND DRIVE DRIVING AND THEY'LL BE PARKING SOMEWHERE AND THEY'LL BE WALK AROUND AND DO SOMETHING. SO, AND YOU KNOW, THERE ARE LOTS OF BENEFIT IF THE IDEA IS WALKABLE, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT A LOT. BUT THAT'S GOOD FOR BUSINESS. WALKABILITY IS GOOD FOR BUSINESS. UH, SO I, I WISH THERE WAS LITTLE MORE, UH, STOREFRONT, UH, ALONG THE TEXAS STREET THAT WOULD GIVE THAT CENTRAL TAIL TRAIL WOULD BE MORE ACTIVE, UH, AND SAFE IF WE HAVE THAT. UH, AND IF YOU HAVE A WALK THROUGH THE BUILDING THAT'S REALLY NOT REALLY WALKABILITY, THAT'S NOT REALLY, UH, SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, IT LOOKS LIKE THE TOWN HOMES THAT LIVES ON THE OTHER SIDE IS GOOD FOR THEM TO WALK SHORT FROM TO POKE STREET. IT'S NOT THE PURPOSE. WALKABILITY IS LIKE WALK AROUND, DO SOME SHOPPING AND ENJOY THE OUTSIDE. UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THOSE ARE JUST MY COMMENT AND I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM OTHERS. IF THERE IS ANY OTHER COMMENTS, THEN I'LL MAKE MY DECISION SLOWLY. THANK YOU MR. CORCORAN. WELL, THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. I PROBABLY SHOULDN'T HAVE CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING RIGHT AWAY 'CAUSE I FEEL LIKE I STILL HAVE JUST ONE ANOTHER QUESTION ON THIS. I DON'T KNOW IF I'M ABLE TO, UH, UH, COUNCILMAN CORCORAN, YOU CAN STILL, UH, ASK QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING IS JUST NO MORE PUBLIC INPUT. GREAT. YEAH, JUST, JUST REAL QUICK, I MEAN, I SEE THE CUT THROUGH ISN'T ON THIS DIAGRAM. IS IT GOING AWAY WITH THAT? I MAYBE I UNDERSTAND. NO, NO. I THINK WHAT, WELL, IT WAS JUST AN ACT. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. NO, FAIR ENOUGH. I JUST WANTED TO, WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE RIGHT THERE. YEAH. AWESOME. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE WEREN'T, FOR SOME REASON THE CUT THROUGH WASN'T DISAPPEARING WHEN THE RETAIL RAISE SPACE GOES. YEAH, I, SORRY FOR THE CONFUSION. THAT WAS AN EARLIER STUDY THAT PREDATED, RIGHT? THE IDEA OF THE CONNECTION THROUGH. SO THERE THAT NEVER JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I'M NOT, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT ACCUSING Y'ALL OF S**T, ANYTHING. NO, I'M NOT TAKING IT THAT WAY. JUST WANNA TO MAKE SURE. NO, I MEAN, SO, UH, SINCE, SINCE HE'S AT THE PODIUM, LET'S JUST HAVE A, A REAL IMPORTANT POINT OF CLARIFICATION. YES, SIR. I THINK WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED IS THAT, UM, THERE WILL BE A 3000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL READY SPACE THAT WILL BE CONSTRUCTED, BUT IN THE, IT'LL BE ALLOWED TO BE USED FOR EITHER RESIDENTIAL OR RETAIL. I UNDERSTAND. OKAY. AND IF, IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN THERE'S JUST ONE MINOR NOTE. UH, IT'S A, IT'S A SMALL, UM, IT'S A SMALL NOTE, BUT AN IMPORTANT ONE JUST TO CLARIFY. SO THERE'S A, THERE'S A, UM, REQUIREMENT THAT, UH, THE ENTRIES BE 18 INCHES ABOVE THE GROUND. THAT'S THE, UH, STOOP SITUATION THAT YOU SEE AROUND THE REMAINDER OF THE BUILDING. OBVIOUSLY, IF YOU'RE GONNA ASK, UH, TO HAVE STOREFRONT RETAIL READY, THAT WOULDN'T BE POSSIBLE. SO IF, IF YOU PROCEED IN THIS WAY, JUST KNOW THAT YOU'LL HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE A CONDITION TO HAVE THE RETAIL READY. AND YOU'LL HAVE TO ALLOW THEM TO HAVE, UM, THE ENTRIES FOR THOSE UNITS AT GROUND LEVEL. UM, WHICH IS, AGAIN, IT'S, IT IS A MINOR DETAIL, BUT IT'S ONE TO JUST AS A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, IS THAT TRUE, JOE? IT'S YOUR UNDERSTANDING. YES. THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD ASK. SO THAT, THAT WOULD BE THE COMPLETE CONSIDERATION FOR THIS. MM-HMM . YEAH. OH, I'M SORRY. I KNOW I'LL, I'LL WRITE THAT DOWN. BUT IN THE MEANTIME, PEOPLE ASK QUESTIONS. MR. HUARD RIDER. THANK YOU MAYOR. I HEAR EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED TONIGHT AND I'M TORN. BE VERY HONEST WITH Y'ALL. I HEAR WHAT THE RESIDENTS ARE SAYING, BUT I ALSO VERY STRONGLY HEAR WHAT THE BUSINESSES ARE SAYING THERE. BUT I NEED TO TAKE EVERYBODY BACK ON A HISTORY LESSON. I WANNA GO BACK SEVERAL YEARS AGO TO A PLACE THAT SOME OF Y'ALL HAVE OBVIOUSLY MAYBE HAVE FORGOTTEN ABOUT. IT WAS A WONDERFUL CANDY STORE THAN MY DAUGHTERS. THEY WERE MUCH YOUNGER. THEY'RE NOW, THEY'VE NOW, UM, LEFT. BUT WE USED TO GO THERE QUITE FREQUENTLY. IT WAS A PLACE CALLED ISABELLA'S. ARE Y'ALL REMEMBER ISABELLA'S? YES. ANYBODY EVER GO IN AND ASK THEM WHAT WAS HAPPENING? DID YOU FREQUENT THEIR SHOP? WE DID. I FREQUENTED THEIR SHOP. WE WENT AND I HEARD RUMORS THEY WERE SHUTTING DOWN. AND I ASKED THEM, I SAID, WHY ARE YOU SHUTTING DOWN? YOU KNOW WHAT THEY TOLD ME? WE DON'T HAVE CUSTOMERS. PLAIN AND SIMPLE. WE DO NOT HAVE CUSTOMERS. SO I HEAR WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S SAYING AND I FULLY UNDERSTAND IT COMPLETELY. BUT ANY ONE OF US WHO'S EVER BEEN IN BUSINESS, THE LIFEBLOOD OF A BUSINESS IS CUSTOMERS. WE DIDN'T SUPPORT ELIGIBILITY. I'M GONNA SAY WE, I MEAN, I WAS DOWN THERE. [04:05:01] I BOUGHT A LOT OF CHOCOLATE, PROBABLY MORE CHOCOLATE THAN I NEEDED. DON'T LOOK AT MY MED SECTION. BUT THEY CLOSED 'CAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE CUSTOMERS. THIS GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE CUSTOMERS DOWN THERE. AND I HEARD FROM THREE DIFFERENT BUSINESSES WHO SAID, AND PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN THERE IN THE THICK OF BUSINESS, WE HAVE NEW BUSINESS COMING IN. WE HAVE BUSINESSES THAT HAVE BEEN THERE FOR QUITE A NUMBER OF YEARS. AND I HEARD OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN, THE SAME WORDS THAT I HEARD MANY YEARS AGO, NOT MANY YEARS AGO, BUT SEVERAL YEARS AGO WHEN ISABEL, UH, ISABELLA'S CLOSED. WE NEED CUSTOMERS. WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE CUSTOMERS DOWN THERE RIGHT NOW. 'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE PEOPLE DOWN THERE. IS THIS PERFECT? I'M NOT GONNA SIT HERE AND SAY THAT TONIGHT. I'M NOT GONNA TRY AND I'M NOT GONNA INSULT Y'ALL BY ANY STRETCH. I KNOW THAT OUR CITY MANAGEMENT TEAM, TRAMMELL CROW AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ESPECIALLY, ESPECIALLY LAUREN DECKER, SPENT A LOT OF TIME WORKING THROUGH, TALKING THROUGH. THAT'S WHY YOU SEE WHAT HAS COME ABOUT THE ADDITIONAL PARK OR THE NOT ADDITIONAL, I'M SORRY, THE, THE PARKING SPACES THAT ARE NOW GONNA BE PUBLIC. THEY, IT'S THERE, IT'S WRITTEN, IT WILL BE A PART OF IT. SOMEONE ASKED THE QUESTION, WELL HOW ARE WE GONNA GUARANTEE THAT IT IS A PART OF THE ZONING? SO IT WILL BE THERE, THE POSITIVE CONNECTION. HAVE ANY OF Y'ALL BEEN THROUGH UP TO CITY LINE? HAVE YOU GO DOWN TO THE CITY LINE PARKING GARAGE? IF YOU LOOK, THERE'S A CONNECTION THAT GOES THROUGH THERE AS WELL TO CON TO TIE ALL OF THAT TOGETHER. I GO THERE QUITE FREQUENTLY, UM, PROBABLY MORE THAN I NEED TO. AGAIN, DON'T LOOK AT MY WAISTLINE, BUT THAT PEDESTRIAN CROSSING REMINDS ME SO MUCH OF WHAT'S DOWN IN CITY LINE. IT'S VERY LIT, IT'S VERY SAFE, IT'S VERY WALKABLE. IS THIS PERFECT AGAIN, I'M NOT GONNA SAY IT IS THE LAST THING WHERE I, WHERE I GO BACK AND FORTH AND AGAIN, I WANT EVERYONE TO HEAR TONIGHT. I'VE HEARD EVERYTHING Y'ALL HAVE SAID. MANY OF YOU CONTACTED ME PRIOR TO THIS. I'VE LISTENED TO EVERYTHING. THE ONE OTHER THING THAT I DO KNOW IS THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE AN EXCELLENT PARTNER IN TRAMELL CROW. THIS IS NOT A FLY BY NIGHT COMPANY THAT'S JUST POPPED IN ONE DAY TO RICHARDSON AND SAID, HEY, WE WANNA THROW THIS UP AND LET'S HOPE IT WORKS. AND IF IT DOESN'T, WELL WE'LL SEE YOU LATER. TRAUMA CROW'S BEEN HERE IN NOT ONLY THIS, NOT ONLY IN THE RICHARDSON AREA, BUT IN THE DFW FOUR YEARS, WE SAW THE FIRST PAGE. I TRULY BELIEVE THAT AS THIS IS BUILT, IF TWEAKS NEED TO OCCUR, OCCUR, WE ALREADY HEARD TONIGHT, THEY'RE, THEY'RE WILLING TO ADD IN THE RETAIL READY IF THAT BECOMES A NEED AT THE MOMENT, THERE'S NOT A NEED. WE HEARD IT TONIGHT. THE BUSINESSES THAT WE ALREADY HAVE DOWN THERE ARE ASKING FOR THE LIFEBLOOD CUSTOMERS. THEY'RE ASKING FOR CUSTOMERS. SO AS I PUT THIS ALL TOGETHER, AND I PROMISE Y'ALL THIS HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT I'VE BEEN DEBATING BACK AND FORTH AND FORTH AND BACK, I KEEP COMING BACK TO THE ONE THING, WHICH IS WHEN I HAD THAT CONVERSATION WITH ISABEL'S AND I MISS BELS. I GOTTA BE HONEST WITH YOU, MY DAUGHTER'S ASKING ME EVERY NOW AND AGAIN, IS THERE ANY CHANCE WE'RE COMING BACK AND THEY'RE NOT, UM, CUSTOMERS. AND SO I WANT TO APPROVE THIS TONIGHT BECAUSE I DO THINK THERE'S BEEN SIGNIFICANT MODIFICATIONS. BYRON CROW, I THINK THEY'VE WORKED VERY, VERY DILIGENTLY IN TRYING TO MEET EVERYBODY HALFWAY. AND MY GRANDMOTHER, BEFORE SHE PASSED, SHE WAS A ENGLISH LADY WHO, WHO NONE, NOBODY IN THIS ROOM KNEW, BUT I KNEW HER. AND SHE TOLD ME ONCE UPON A TIME, 'CAUSE I WAS, I WAS GETTING STARTED EARLY ON. THIS GOES BACK MANY, MANY YEARS AGO. I WAS GETTING STARTED IN MY HEALTHCARE CAREER AND I WAS WORKING, TRYING TO NEGOTIATE A SITUATION. AND I WAS VERY FRUSTRATED BECAUSE I COULDN'T GET THE TWO, TWO SIDES TO AGREE ON EVERYTHING. AND SHE SAID TO ME, SHE SAID, KIM, IF YOU GET BOTH SIDES PART OF THE WAY THERE, YOU PROBABLY HAD A SUCCESSFUL NEGOTIATION. BECAUSE THE SUCCESSFUL NEGOTIATION IS WHERE NEITHER SIDE WALKS AWAY WITH EVERYTHING THEY WANT. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE HERE TONIGHT, IS WE'VE HAD REALLY GOOD EFFORTS TO SIGNIFICANTLY PROVIDE IMPROVEMENTS. AND I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE A PROJECT WHERE EVERYBODY'S GONNA GET SOMETHING, BUT NOT EVERYBODY'S GONNA GET EVERYTHING. AND SO FOR THAT REASON, I'M GONNA, UM, I'M GONNA VOTE TO APPROVE THIS PROJECT. THANK YOU MR. BARRIOS. THANK YOU MAYOR. [04:10:01] UM, WHEN I FIRST STARTED LOOKING AT THIS, I HAD SOME CONCERNS. UM, WHEN I WAS, I WAS REALLY RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE. I COULDN'T DECIDE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. LAST FRIDAY, WHEN I HEARD THAT THEY WERE GOING TO PRESENT THIS WALKTHROUGH, IT GOT ME A LITTLE EXCITED. I WAS LIKE, OKAY, THAT'S A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. UM, I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE LARGER PUBLIC OPEN SPACE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME I WAS CONCERNED THAT IT WAS DRAWING AWAY FROM THE CENTRAL TRAIL. I HAVE BEEN CONCERNED THE ENTIRE TIME ABOUT THE LACK OF RETAIL. NOW, ALL THAT SAID, UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT CURRENTLY RETAIL IS STRUGGLING EVERYWHERE NATIONALLY. ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU DEAL WITH YOUR REGIONAL OR MID-SIZE OR LARGE, UH, FLOOR PLAN RETAIL. UH, IT STRUGGLES. SO I UNDERSTAND THE HESITATION BECAUSE IF I WERE, AND FIRST OF ALL I SAY, I WILL SAY IF THERE'S ANYBODY WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING WITH. TRAMMELL CROW IS DEFINITELY ONE OF THOSE TOP COMPANIES WE WANNA WORK WITH. UH, THEY HAVE A GREAT REPUTATION. UH, I'VE TALKED TO OTHER CITY LEADERS, UH, MAYORS AND COUNCILMEN IN OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY, UH, TO WORK WITH 'EM IN OTHER CITIES AND NOT A, NOT A SINGLE BAD THING WAS SAID ABOUT THEM. UM, AND THAT'S VERY RARE, UH, IN, IN THIS WORLD, RIGHT? UH, 'CAUSE THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE SAID OUT LOUD AND THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE SAID BEHIND DOORS AND NOTHING, UH, HORRIBLE SAID. UM, I UNDERSTAND RETAIL AND I UNDERSTAND THE HESITATION TO BUILD RETAIL BECAUSE CURRENTLY, YEAH, RETAIL'S GOING DOWN AND IT'S, IT'S HESITANT. WE HAVE A LOT OF RETAIL SPACE DOWNTOWN. WE HAVE A LOW OCCUPANCY RATE DOWNTOWN, BUT THAT'S A SHORT, I BELIEVE THAT'S A SHORT TERM VIEW OF THE SITUATION. BECAUSE DECISIONS WE'RE GONNA MAKE NOW ARE GONNA AFFECT FOR DECADES AND DECADES AND DECADES. WHILE RETAIL MAY DECLINE IN THE NEXT 10, 15 YEARS, I DON'T THINK APPROVING A BLOCK. UM, AND JUST THROWING THE IDEA OF RETAIL OUT THE WINDOW IS THE WAY TO GO. BECAUSE A BIG BLOCK, LET'S LOOK AT 20, 30 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, WHILE I DO BELIEVE THAT WE NEED MORE APARTMENTS AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT AFFORDABILITY, UM, AND YOU KNOW, THE IDEA IS HOW DO YOU GET MORE AFFORDABLE APARTMENTS? YOU ADD MORE APARTMENTS, RIGHT? YOU INCREASE SUPPLY. IT, IT UH, IT FLOODS THE MARKET SOMEWHAT AND THEN YOU END UP LOWERING RATES. SAME HAPPENS WITH RETAIL AND RETAIL SPACE. YOU FLOOD THE MARKET WITH MORE. YOU BRING RATES DOWN. I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT WE NEED MORE PEOPLE DOWNTOWN. IN SLIDE FIVE OF STAFF PRESENTATION THIS EVENING, WE WERE SHOWN, UH, THE ORIGINAL PRES PRESENTATION FROM APRIL 23RD, 2018. AND IT READS, DRIVE, PARK, WALK, SHOP, DINE, GATHER, DREAM. AND WHILE THIS ADDS MORE HEADS AND BEDS DOWNTOWN, IT TAKES OUT THAT DRIVE AND PARK CONCEPT THAT WAS ORIGINALLY, UM, BROUGHT. I DON'T THINK THAT WE NEED NECESSARILY MORE AND MORE HEADS AND BEDS TO MAKE DOWNTOWN WORK. I THINK THIS AND FUTURE COUNCILS NEED TO BE ABLE TO DREAM TO GET SOME KIND OF ACTIVATION WITHIN THE BUSINESSES DOWNTOWN. BECAUSE AS A GENTLEMAN FROM MAIN STREET TAVERN POINT OUT, THEY NEED PEOPLE. AND I'VE TALKED TO OTHER BUSINESSMEN IN THAT AREA AND THERE THERE'S NO DISAGREEMENT THAT MORE PEOPLES NEED A DOWNTOWN. THE QUESTION IS HOW ARE WE GONNA DO IT? AND I THINK THAT WE AS A COUNCIL HAVE OTHER OPTIONS THAN JUST APPROVING A GIANT BLOCK THAT'S GONNA AFFECT THE BLOCK FOREVER. WE HAVE THE OPTION OF SAYING, OKAY, THEN LET'S MAKE IT PART, PERHAPS THE NEXT COUNCIL CAN TAKE IT AS A CHALLENGE TO SAY WHAT CAN WE AS A COUNCIL DEVELOP TO DREAM, TO CREATE MORE, BRING MORE PEOPLE INTO DOWNTOWN SO THAT THEY CAN DRIVE, PARK, WALK, SHOP, DINE AND GATHER AND IN PROCESS TREE. I THINK THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT SMALL, THE THE TERM SMALL BLOCK GRID SYSTEM WAS MENTIONED EARLIER BY ONE OF THE SPEAKERS AND I WROTE IT DOWN, PUT A STAR NEXT TO IT. 'CAUSE THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THAT DOWNTOWN AREA WAS. BY DOING THIS, WHILE THEY DID A GREAT JOB AT TAKING SOME SOME SUGGESTIONS INTO PLACE BY BUILDING THIS, WE GET RID OF THAT SMALL BLOCK GRID SYSTEM. THE REALITY IS, AND I KNOW SOME PEOPLE WEREN'T IN FAVOR OF APARTMENTS, I THINK THAT'S THE WAY OF THE FUTURE. WE CAN DISAGREE ON THAT ON ANOTHER TIME, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THIS IS THE RIGHT APARTMENT. I THINK IT'S THE RIGHT DEVELOPER THAT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE WORK WITH [04:15:01] IN THE CITY. I THINK THEY ARE A WONDERFUL, UH, GROUP. UH, I THINK WE DO NEED SOME MORE APARTMENTS IN THE CITY. I'M, UM, I I DON'T THINK THIS DEVELOPMENT FOR THIS AREA IS THE RIGHT THING FOR THE, FOR THIS DOWNTOWN AREA. THE LARGE STRUCTURE, GETTING RID OF THE SMALL BLOCK FORMAT. AND THE REALITY IS, 30 YEARS FROM NOW, WHAT IS THIS GONNA BECOME? ONE, THE BIG BLOCK STRUCTURE MAKES IT, UH, ECONOMICALLY IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT FEASIBLE FOR REDEVELOPMENT BECAUSE IT'S SO MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE TO REDEVELOP. SO IT ENDS UP BECOMING, YOU KNOW, WHILE IT'S GONNA BE SHINY FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS AND YOU'RE GONNA HAVE 15 YEARS OF WHERE DECLINE, WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN 30, 40 YEARS FROM NOW. IT'S GONNA BECOME A LOW INCOME NOT SO GREAT AREA, UH, BECAUSE IT'S NOT ABLE TO BE REDEL REDEVELOPED 'CAUSE IT'S DOESN'T MAKE ECONOMIC SENSE VERSUS SMALL FLAT FORM, SMALL BLOCK FORMAT. DOES ON AN ECONOMIC SCALE MAKE MORE SENSE TO REDEVELOP? UM, I THINK THAT WE SAW DEVELOPMENT EARLIER TODAY. I MADE THE, I COMPLIMENTED THEM ON ADDING THE DIFFERENT MIXED USE. THEY HAD SOME UNDER GARAGE. YOU GO TO OTHER AREAS WHERE, UM, THEY, WHERE THEY AND OTHERS HAVE WORKED IN, THEY DO THOSE KIND OF UNIQUE SITUATIONS WITH PARKING AND THEY DO ADD THE RETAIL. AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING LIKE CARROLLTON HELD OUT FOR RETAIL. UM, PLANO HELD OUT FOR RETAIL. A LOT OF THESE OTHER CITIES, WHILE I AGREE WITH THE SPEAKER THAT SAYS WE DO HAVE SOMETHING EXTRA, THOSE OF US WHO ARE NOT BLESSED ENOUGH TO LIVE IN THE CITY CAME TO THE CITY FOR A REASON. MY FAMILY INCLUDED, NEITHER MY WIFE NOR I, UM, WERE BORN IN THE CITY. BUT WE'RE GLAD TO BE RAISING MY SON WHO IS AN AUDIENCE TONIGHT IN THIS CITY BECAUSE WE ABSOLUTELY LOVE RICHARDSON. AND RICHARD'S BEEN A BIG BLESSING TO ME AND MY FAMILY. THE, I THINK THAT WE NOT, I LOOKED THE SQUARE FOOTAGE AND I ASKED THE SQUARE FOOTAGE QUESTION EARLIER ABOUT WHAT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF UH, MCKINNEY WAS. AND WITHOUT TAKING THE TWO ALLEYS INTO CONSIDERATION RIGHT NOW, 74,562 SQUARE FEET IS PRIVATELY OWNED OF THIS AREA. WHILE 51,537 SQUARE FEET, NOT INCLUDING THE ALLEYS IS CURRENTLY OWNED BY THE CITY. THAT'S A TWO TO THREE RATIO EVERY TWO FEET, APPROXIMATELY 2, 2 2 FEET. THAT CITY OWNS THREE FEET OF THAT IS PRIVATELY OWNED. THAT GIVES US A STRATEGIC POSITIONING FOR SOMETHING MUCH BIGGER. AND I THINK THAT WHEN YOU, WHEN WE LOOK AT SOME OF THE DESIGN ASPECTS, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE LAND ASPECT, WHEN WE LOOK AT WHAT IT'S GONNA DO 30 YEARS FROM NOW, WHAT IT'S GONNA DO TO THE AREA FURTHER SOUTH, AS KAUFMAN DEVELOPS, I UNDERSTAND THE FAMILY THAT OWNS A LOT OF THAT PROPERTY IS HERE. AND WHILE THEY MAY NOT BE CONSIDERING SELLING ANYTIME SOON DOWN THE ROAD, THINGS HAPPEN. UH, THEY MAY NOT BE HERE 50 YEARS FROM NOW. AND THAT'S THE REALITY OF IT. UM, SO EVENTUALLY THAT WHOLE AREA IS PROBABLY GONNA BE DEVELOPED. AND WHAT IS THIS GONNA BE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF ALL THAT? UH, I DON'T SEE, I THINK THAT WHEN THESE CASES COME TO US, AND I'LL END WITH THIS, WHEN THESE CASES COME TO US, I, MY APPROACH IS OKAY, IT'S, WE'RE ASKING FOR EXCEPTION. SO WHAT IS THE EXCEPTION AND THE BURDEN IS ON THE DEVELOPER. AND WHILE I REALLY LIKE THIS DEVELOPER AND I HOPE AGAIN WE, WE GET TO WORK WITH THEM IN OTHER PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. UH, 'CAUSE I THINK THEY ARE UM, A CLASS INSTITUTION. I THINK THAT ALL THEY ASK FOR THIS AREA AND IT NEEDS TO MAKE SENSE FOR EVERYBODY. AND THEY ARE GIVING US WHAT MAKES SENSE FOR THEM. AND IT MAKES SENSE 'CAUSE THEY'RE BUSINESSMEN AND THAT'S WHAT IF I WERE IN THEIR SHOES, THEY DO EVERYTHING RIGHT. THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF I CAN LEARN FROM THEM. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT'S GOTTA MAKE SENSE FOR THE COMMUNITY AS WELL, AND IN THE FUTURE COMMUNITY OF OUR, OF OUR CITY. AND I FEEL THAT TAKING THIS AS A VERY SHORT TERM OUTLOOK ON WHAT COULD BE A VERY LONG TERM, UM, BECAUSE REPERCUSSIONS. SO WITH THAT SAID, I, UH, WILL BE VOTING AGAINST IT. THANK YOU MR. DORIAN. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UH, I GUESS THE FIRST THING I JUST WANNA SAY, I'M NOT GONNA REPEAT EVERYTHING AND TAKE UP ALL THAT TIME. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I, I, I TOO HAVE BEEN TORN, UM, OVER THIS PROJECT AND DECIDING WHICH WAY, YOU KNOW, TO LEAN AND AS MUCH AS I, YOU WANT TO SUPPORT THE NEIGHBORS AND THE COMMUNITY, AND YOU ALSO WANT TO CHOOSE WHAT'S THE RIGHT THING FOR THE CITY. AND YOU HAVE TO TAKE BOTH OF THOSE INTO CONSIDERATION AND FIGURE OUT WHAT IS THE BEST SHORT TERM AND LONG TERM GOALS. AND I TOO HAVE LISTENED TO BUSINESS OWNERS, RESTAURANT OWNERS, AND EVEN POTENTIAL NEW DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE NOT COME TO FRUITION. ONE, BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH [04:20:01] PEOPLE TO SUPPORT IT. AND, AND, AND THAT'S A PROBLEM. AND WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT PART TO NO PAY AND SOME OF THE OTHER BUSINESSES THAT ARE THERE NOW TO START DECLINING. SO EVEN THOUGH THERE IS ANOTHER COMPLEX DOWN THE STREET AT BELT MAIN, IT'S GONNA TAKE A WHILE FOR THAT TO FILL UP. IN THE MEANTIME, WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT THE NEXT STEPS AND HOW WE'RE GONNA DO THIS. IS THIS THE PERFECT SITUATION FOR THIS? NO, IT'S NOT. UH, IS IT A GOOD PARTNERSHIP? YES. HAVE THEY MADE SOME OF THE CONCESSIONS THAT WE'VE ASKED? I KNOW PERSONALLY I'VE ASKED, AND ALONG WITH THE COUNCIL, WE WANT PARKING, APPROPRIATE PARKING, WE WANT WALKABLE AREA. WE NEED A PASS THROUGH AT, AT THE VERY LEAST, IF NOT SOME TYPE OF BRIDGE EFFECT. AND HONESTLY, WE WANT, WE WANT RETAIL. AND I, AND I'M GLAD THAT YOU COMMITTED TO AT LEAST 3000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL. THE ONLY THING I WOULD ASK IS THAT PART OF THAT BE ON TEXAS, IF AT ALL POSSIBLE. AND I KNOW CONSTRUCTION WELL BECAUSE I'M IN THAT BUSINESS. SO THERE IS A WAY TO EL ELEVATE THE STRUCTURE AND STILL GET YOUR, YOUR, YOUR STEP UP, UM, STOOPS AND ALSO HAVE GROUND LEVEL, DEPENDING ON HOW YOU DO IT. YOUR ENGINEER WILL WORK ALL THOSE DETAILS OUT. BUT YOU CAN DO IT AND, AND YOU COULD PROVIDE RETAIL ON THE CORNER OF TEXAS AND POLK TO BRING PEOPLE IN FROM BOTH SIDES. 'CAUSE THE ONLY WAY RETAILERS ARE GOING TO, TO MAKE IT IS IF YOU'VE GOT THAT WALKABLE EFFECT. YOU CAN'T, WE CAN'T JUST PUT IT ON ONE SIDE AND GO, OKAY, WE'RE GONNA PUT EVERYBODY ON THIS SIDE OF THE STREET. YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A WALK AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND I'M GONNA JUST SAY THAT, UH, COUNCILMAN HUTCHIN RIDER, BASICALLY EVERYTHING THAT YOU JUST SAID, I'M KIND OF GONNA DI DITTO THAT BECAUSE THOSE WERE ALL THE THINGS I WAS GOING TO SAY. AND I WON'T TAKE UP 15 MINUTES TO SAY IT, BUT IT'S A HARD DECISION. I'M GONNA TELL YOU RIGHT NOW. I HAVE BOUGHT IT TOOTH AND TOE NOW. AND I, YOU HAVE TO ULTIMATELY SUPPORT WHAT IS GONNA WORK BEST FOR THE COMMUNITY AND HOPEFULLY FOR THE RESIDENTS AS WELL COMBINED, WHERE NO ONE'S GONNA BE A HUNDRED PERCENT HAPPY WITH ANY DEVELOPMENT MOVING FORWARD. WOULD I HAVE LIKED TO HAVE SEEN A COTTAGE MORE BOUTIQUE-Y ENVIRONMENT FOR THIS AREA? YES. I MEAN, I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROJECT KIND OF, WE'LL CALL IT, NOT EVEN REALLY PRO BONO, BUT JUST AS IN A VOLUNTEER VOLUNTARY LEVEL FOR OVER 20 YEARS. AND I'VE SEEN SO MUCH CHANGE. AND SO IT'S DEVELOPMENT AND, UH, DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS AND DIFFERENT CONCEPTS COME MY WAY. AND OVER TIME I JUST KEPT SAYING, WELL, WHEN IS IT GOING TO HAPPEN? YOU KNOW, WHEN IS IT GOING TO HAPPEN? I REALLY WANT DOWNTOWN RICHARDSON TO, TO THRIVE, AND I WANT TO BE ABLE TO PARK AND WALK OR EVEN RIDE MY BIKE. 'CAUSE I LIVE IN THE AREA. THAT IS MY AREA. I'M IN PLACE ONE THAT IS MY AREA OR MY PLACE. SO I WANT THAT AS MUCH AS ANYBODY. AND, BUT I WANT THE RIGHT THING. AND I'M, AND I'M GLAD Y'ALL, I'M GLAD TRAMMELL CROW CAME TO THE TABLE AND ADDED THE THINGS THAT WE ARE REQUESTING. IS IT EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED? NO, BUT IT'S A LOT MORE. YOU CAME IN 75% OF WHAT WE DO NEED. AND I THINK THROUGH THE DESIGN CONCEPT, AND AGAIN, JUST REITERATING THAT IS MY BUSINESS. SO I KNOW WHAT YOU CAN DO AND WHAT YOU'RE CAPABLE OF DOING. AND YOU CAN INCLUDE SOME OF THOSE DETAILS. SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THE RESIDENTS ASK FOR IS, EVEN THOUGH A LOT OF PEOPLE OPPOSED IT, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE SUPPORT IT. IF YOU COULD TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AS YOU'RE GOING THROUGH AND DEVELOPING AND GET THROUGH DESIGN DEVELOPMENT, I REALIZE THIS IS JUST CONCEPTUAL AND, BUT YOU CAN TAKE IT TO THROUGH WHEN YOU GET TO DESIGN DEVELOPMENT AND GET THROUGH THE NEXT SET OF CONCEPTUALS. I REALLY THINK THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER THAT AS WE ADDED THAT RETAIL, WHETHER IT'S 3000 SQUARE FEET OR 3,500 SQUARE FEET, HOWEVER, IT'S GONNA PLAY OUT ON THE BAYS, HOWEVER THE BAYS ARE LAID OUT. WE REALLY NEED THAT ON THE CORNER THERE. AND WE WANT PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO ENJOY THE DOWNTOWN. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, UM, I I'M, I'M GONNA HAVE TO CONSIDER SUPPORTING THIS AS WELL. THANK YOU. I'M GONNA CHIME IN HERE JUST A MINUTE. UM, THIS IS TOUGH. IT IS TOUGH FOR THE CITIZENS. I I KNOW SEVERAL SPEAKERS OR CITIZENS THAT, UM, I'VE WORKED WITH, I'VE SEEN, OR I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN THEIR LIVES ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. SO, UM, OF THE PEOPLE THAT GOT UP AND SPOKE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT, UM, NINE AGAINST SIX FOUR. I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY HOW MANY MORE THERE ARE, UM, THAT ARE FAR OR AGAINST IT, BUT I PROMISE THAT I HAVE READ EVERY DOCUMENT THAT IS WAS SENT TO ME. AND I HAVE LISTENED TO PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO SHARE THEIR WORDS WITH ME AND [04:25:01] NOT WRITE IT. I THINK ONE, ONE THING THAT'S, I THINK PEOPLE ARE, HAVE CHERRY PICKED THEIR HOT BUTTONS OR THE THINGS THAT IRRITATE THEM OR THE THINGS THEY'RE PASSIONATE ABOUT. AND I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS IN A BIG PICTURE. WE NEED TO, WE REALLY LOOK AT IT. I'M REAL IMPRESSED WITH, UH, THE PRESENTATION BY TRAMMELL CROW, AND I THINK THEY'VE WORKED HARD TO TRY TO GET THERE. IF THEY WERE NEGLIGENT EARLY ON IN THE PROCESS AND DIDN'T SEE THE NEIGHBORS, I THINK THEY DID THEIR BEST TO TRY TO MAKE UP AND, AND, AND GET THERE. PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT GREEN SPACE WALKABILITY. WELL, IF YOU LOOK AT WHERE THE NEST IS, THAT'S GONNA BE A LOT OF OPEN GREEN SPACE. THE CITY HAS INVESTED AND IS IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO COMPLETE $5 MILLION WORTH OF GREEN SPACE GOING UP THE DART RAIL. AND WE WORKED WITH DART TO BE ABLE TO GRASP THAT PORTION OF TRACK AREA THAT ALLOWS US TO MAKE THAT A LIVABLE BREATHING DESTINATION FOR GREEN SPACE. SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE THAT GREEN SPACE. YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THE GREEN SPACE NEAR THE NEST AS IT'S IN, INSIDE THE MIDDLE OF IT, IN THE U-SHAPE, UM, PARKING. YES. THAT, THAT IS A MAJOR CONCERN. DON'T FORGET THE BELT AT MAIN. THE WHOLE BOTTOM FLOOR IS PUBLIC PARKING. WHEN ALL THAT IS COMPLETED, WE HAVE MORE PARKING THERE ON THE NORTH SIDE, AND NOW THEY HAVE ADDED 131 MORE SPACES FOR US THAT WE GO GET TO THE SOUTH SIDE. I HEARD OUR VENDORS, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE MERCHANTS THERE CURRENTLY, THE ONES THAT HAVE LIVED THROUGH IT AND ARE ARE SURVIVING, THEY WANT IT. I HEARD COUNCILMAN HUTCHER, I TALK ABOUT WE LOST, YOU KNOW, ISABELLA'S YES, WE DID, BECAUSE IT IS A COMBINATION OF THINGS. I DIDN'T, I DON'T WANT TO MAKE LIGHT OF IT, BUT A LOT OF THAT WAS BECAUSE OF COD AND PEOPLE VANISHED BECAUSE THERE WAS NOTHING THERE. ALSO, I'D LIKE TO SAY, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, AND I COULD, IF I'M WRONG, PLEASE CORRECT ME, MR. MAGNER, WE'VE HAD THREE PEOPLE APPROACH US TO DO SOMETHING IN THIS AREA. OTHER COMPANIES COULDN'T MAKE IT WORK, COULDN'T FIND A WAY TO PLANT THEIR ROOTS IN THIS AREA AND DO SOMETHING PRODUCTIVE. GRANDMA CROW IS THE FIRST ONE THAT HAS THE ABILITY AND THE KNOWLEDGE AND THE EXPERTISE TO MAKE IT WORK. THERE'S 10 DIFFERENT PROPERTIES INVOLVED WITH DIFFERENT OWNERS AND DIFFERENT THINGS. IT TAKES A BIG COMPANY AND SOMEONE WITH A LOT OF THOUGHT AND INGENUITY TO BE ABLE TO PULL 'EM ALL TOGETHER AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO TAKE THOSE PARCELS AND MAKE IT WORK. UM, PEOPLE SAY THEY DON'T WANT APARTMENTS HERE. WELL, IT'S ZONED MULTIFAMILY. I MEAN, THAT'S HOW IT'S ZONED. THE ONLY EXCEPTIONS THEY'RE ASKING FOR DEAL WITH A COUPLE OF ODDITY THINGS, THE, THE SIZE AND SO FORTH, THE PASSAGE THROUGH, I HEARD 'EM SAY EXTRA LIGHTING. I HEARD 'EM SAY SECURITY CAMERAS, THOSE TYPE THINGS. IT'S GONNA BE SAFE. UM, SO THE, I I'LL BE HONEST, UM, I THINK THIS IS A CATALYST TYPE PROJECT THAT WILL SPUR ON TO BIGGER, BETTER THINGS. AND, AND THAT VISION WE TALK ABOUT, I READ SOME OF THE THINGS AND PEOPLE TALKED ABOUT QUOTING US. WE WANT, UM, ECLECTIC, WE WANT MULTI-GENERATIONAL. WE WANT TO CREATE, CREATE WALKABLE, PE, PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY AND ALL THOSE THINGS. I THINK THAT THOSE ARE HAPPENING. I HEARD 'EM TALK ABOUT ART. I HEARD 'EM TALK ABOUT, UM, TRYING TO FIND WAYS AS FAR AS SCULPTURES AND THINGS TO MAKE IT UNIQUE AND SPECIAL. I THINK WE NEED TO GIVE 'EM A CHANCE. LIKE I SAID, THIS IS THE THIRD, MAYBE FOURTH COMPANY THAT'S APPROACHED IT AND SAID, WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING. I THINK YOU ADD OUR $5 MILLION WORTH OF GREEN SPACE ON THE DART RAIL. I THINK YOU ADD THE NEST TO THE SOUTH AND YOU BRING THIS, THIS IS A REALLY GOOD START, FROM MY OPINION. IS IT IDEAL? MR. HUTCHER WRITER SAID IT WASN'T. I AGREE. SOME OTHERS SAID IT WASN'T NECESSARILY PERFECT, BUT IT IS THE BEST OPTION WE HAVE HAD TO DATE. AND PEOPLE HAVE ASKED, WHAT ARE WE DOING DOWNTOWN? WHAT DO WE DO IN TOWN? WHEN'S GONNA HAPPEN? WELL, [04:30:01] THIS IS A CHANCE FOR IT TO HAPPEN, IN MY OPINION. SO PERSONALLY I'M GONNA VOTE FOR IT. SO, ALL RIGHT, MR. CORCORAN. OH, THANK YOU. THANK YOUR MR. MAYOR. I JUST, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANNA, I'M NOT GONNA REPEAT SOME OF THE OTHER POINTS THAT HAVE BEEN SAID THAT I AGREE WITH FOR BREVITY'S SAKE, BUT I, I AM HAPPY YOU BROUGHT UP THE BELT AT MAIN DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE I, I WENT AHEAD AND, I MEAN, I, SO I FULLY UNDERSTAND THE PHILOSOPHY AND THE THEORY BEHIND, LIKE KEEPING THE GRID AND REALLY TRYING TO KEEP STREETS, SCAPES, UM, MORE COMPACT AND, YOU KNOW, KEEPING ALLEYS AND STREETS, YOU CAN ACTIVATE. LIKE, I, I REALLY FULLY UNDERSTAND THE PHILOSOPHY, SO I WANTED TO REALLY TEST OUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT WOULD IT LOOK LIKE IN THE FUTURE, UM, WHEN ALL OF THIS IS DEVELOPED. AND SO I ACTUALLY PARKED AT BELTON, MAINE IN THE PARKING GARAGE, WALKED DOWN, WALKED, UM, DOWN MAIN STREET, CUT OVER. UM, AND THEN I, I TOOK TWO SEPARATE ROUTES, YOU KNOW, BEFORE THEY HAD AGREED TO DO THE CUT THROUGH. I WALKED DOWN TEXAS AND THEN, UH, I WALKED DOWN MCKINNEY AND, YOU KNOW, GOING SORT OF, AND I WALKED RIGHT THERE TO WHERE, UH, MCKINNEY EMPTIES OUT ONTO KAUFMAN STREET. SO PRETTY CLOSE TO WHERE THE NEST IN THAT RETAIL AREA WOULD BE. I MEAN, IT WAS ABOUT A MINUTE AND A HALF DIFFERENCE. IT TOOK ME ABOUT SIX AND A HALF MINUTES TO DO THE CUT THROUGH TO THAT SPOT, AND ABOUT EIGHT MINUTES TO WALK AROUND. BUT DURING THAT WALK, I MEAN, WITH ALL THE PROTECTED SIDEWALKS WE HAVE THE CROSSWALKS. THIS IS IN THE MORNING. SO IT WAS A PRETTY BUSY TRAFFIC TIME WITH COMMUTERS UP AND DOWN BELTLINE. I COULD REALLY SEE THE VISION FOR HOW MAIN STREET WILL DEVELOP, AND I COULD REALLY, NOT JUST MAIN STREET, SORRY, THE, THE CORE DISTRICT AS A WHOLE. I COULD SEE, I COULD SEE HOW IT, IT REALLY CAN TIE TOGETHER AND HOW IT WILL TIE TOGETHER IN THE FUTURE, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH REALLY, WITH OR WITHOUT THIS APARTMENT COMPLEX. BUT I JUST DIDN'T SEE THIS DURING THAT TIME TRIAL. I JUST DIDN'T REALLY SEE THIS AS A HINDRANCE TO THAT SORT OF CONNECTIVITY THAT WE HAVE THERE. I MEAN, ANY RETAIL THAT HAPPENS TO THE SOUTH OF IT, IT'S GONNA TAKE YOU A LITTLE OVER 60 SECONDS MORE TO WALK TO IT, RIGHT? AND NOW IT WON'T EVEN DO THAT BECAUSE OF THE CUT THROUGH. THANK YOU, SIR. MAYOR, BRO, TIM, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WELL, I MEAN, THIS IS VERY CHALLENGING PROJECT HERE, UH, BECAUSE THIS IS NOT JUST A CATALYST. THIS IS ACTUALLY THE, YOU KNOW, MAIN FOCUS POINT HERE. UM, THIS PROJECT, ONCE WE MISS THIS OPPORTUNITY, WE'RE GONNA MISS THIS OPPORTUNITY. UH, UNFORTUNATELY, THIS IS NOT JUST ONE, ANOTHER SMALL PROJECT. IF IT WAS ANOTHER SMALL DEVELOPMENT, WE CAN TAKE IT OFF, PUT A NEW ONE. I DON'T MIND MAKING MISTAKE TWICE, EVEN, UH, YOU KNOW, REPLACING WITH A BETTER ONE. BUT THIS ONE, ONCE WE PUT IT ON THERE, IT'S GONNA BE THERE LIKE IT ON LIKE, LIKE THIS OR NOT. UH, WE JUST HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, FACE IT THAT THIS IS THERE. I'M GONNA BE DRIVING EVERY, EVERY DAY THROUGH THIS POINT. I DO DRIVE AND, UH, AND THIS IS GONNA, YOU KNOW, IF WE DO IT WRONG, THIS IS GONNA BOTHER ME REST OF MY LIFE. AND, AND, UH, ABSOLUTELY I DON'T WANT TO, THIS IS WHAT I AVOID ALWAYS. I ALWAYS THINK THAT I DON'T WANT TO DO SOMETHING THAT WILL MAKE ME FEEL BAD IN MY BACKYARD PORCH WHEN I'M OLDER, RETIRED, DON'T DO ANYTHING. THEN I WOULD THINK THAT I WISH I DID THAT LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY. SO THAT'S WHAT REALLY, YOU KNOW, I WANNA BE SO CRITICAL ON THIS. UH, I'LL PUT MY FOOT DOWN, MY, AT LEAST MY VOTE. UH, YOU KNOW, WALKABILITY IS IMPORTANT. UH, THERE IS A THEORY THAT YOU CAN SAY LOTS OF RESEARCH OUT TO THERE. I SPENT LAST COUPLE OF DAYS RESEARCHING ALL THOSE RESEARCH PAPER BECAUSE I HAD LOTS OF THINGS. 200 FEET, 300 FEET, 500 FEET, 600 FEET. THEORY IS OUT THERE. SO WALKABILITY WISE, PROBABLY NOT A BIG DEAL. BIG DEAL. THESE THINGS BECAUSE, UH, 600 FEET IS STILL ACCEPTABLE. UH, AND IF YOU LOOK AT THAT IN THE MIDDLE, IT CAN GO BOTH SIDE, YOU KNOW, 300, 300, NO BIG DEAL. YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT ONLY FOUR HOUSES EACH SIDE. UH, IF YOU JUST THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU LIVE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD AND THOSE HOUSES LIKE 75 FEET WIDE, SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT FOUR HOUSES, 300 FEET. BUT WHAT'S MAKE THINGS WALKABILITY? LIKE, YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT YOURSELF, WHAT WILL MAKE YOU TO WALK? UH, YOU CAN WALK TO THE PARK IF YOU WANT TO, BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A REASON TO WALK IF YOU ARE IN A PLACE, YOU KNOW, GETTING A PIZZA. SO, OKAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? I WANNA BUY A GIFT FOR MY DAUGHTER. UH, A DAUGHTER, SHE'S TEENAGE. WHAT SHE LIKES, SHE LIKES PERFUME. UH, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU NEED TO GO, YOU KNOW, YOU WANNA BUY SOME PERFUME FOR HER. BUT NOW IF YOU WANNA DO THAT, YOU HAVE TO GO DRIVE ALL THE WAY TO DOWNTOWN DALLAS AREA, OR PLANO OR GALLERIA TO BUY THOSE THINGS. BUT IF THERE WAS ANOTHER STORE THERE, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU COULD BUY SOMETHING A FLOWER FROM FOR HER [04:35:01] WITHOUT GOING DIFFERENT STORES. SO THOSE WILL MAKE ME REALLY GO DIFFERENT PLACES. SO, AND THAT WILL MAKE ME WALK, UH, EVEN IF IT LITTLE HOT OUT THERE, LITTLE GRIZZLING, I WILL WALK FOR THAT REASON. SO EVEN I THINK THAT'S, I'M A, I'M JUST ONE OF THOSE AVERAGE PERSON. SO I THINK THE PEOPLE THINK THAT WAY. SO IF WE CAN PUT MORE STORE AROUND, THEY WILL WALK AND, YOU KNOW, 3000 FEET, 3000 SQUARE FEET, THAT'S A GREAT, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE ANOTHER 3000 SQUARE FEET ALONG TEXAS STREET, AND I'M OKAY TO WAIT. IF IT IS, IF THE MARKET IS READY FOR RETAIL, IT CAN OPEN IT UP. BUT IF IT IS NOT BUILT TODAY, IT'LL NOT BE DONE TODAY. UH, I HAVE HEARD IN THE PAST THAT ARAPAHOE, UH, SHOPPING AREA, THERE IS A, UH, UH, THERE IS SOME STORAGE UNIT OUT THERE. MANY YEARS AGO, COUNCIL MADE A DECISION TO CONVERT THAT INTO STORAGE. UNIT MARKET HAS CHANGED. THAT COULD HAVE BEEN RETAIL, RETAIL PLACE. IT, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE STORAGE INTO THAT. AND I HEARD COUNCIL MEMBERS REGRET THAT. I WISH WE DID NOT APPROVE THAT THING THAT TIME. UH, SO THIS THING, I WOULD BE HAPPY IF THERE IS ANOTHER 3000 SQUARE FEET OR SO, UH, RETAIL THAT'S DESIGNED AND BUILT FOR THE FUTURE. UH, THAT WILL, THAT WILL TAKE, UH, THAT WILL GET MY VOTE FOR THIS. AND, UH, FOR THE PARKING, THE PUBLIC PARKING, IF IT TRULY STAYS PUBLIC PARKING, UH, RESTRICTION, UH, FOR THE RESIDENTS TO PARK, THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO PARK, BUT THEIR GUESTS COULD PARK SOME KIND OF RESTRICTION, I THINK THAT CAN BE DONE. THAT'S NOT A BIG DEAL. UH, HAVING TEMPORARY PARKING, TEMPORARY ROUTE FOR THE BUSINESS TO STAY IN BUSINESS DURING CONSTRUCTION, THOSE ARE EASY TO SOLVE. NOT, UH, NOT THAT MUCH TROUBLE TO COME UP WITH THE IDEA HOW TO MAKE SURE THAT EXISTING BUSINESS WILL STAY IN GOOD BUSINESS, GOOD SHAPE DURING A CONSTRUCTION. THOSE ARE, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE NOT REALLY THAT CRITICAL TO SOLVE. BUT HAVING MORE RETAIL SPACE IN THAT AREA BUILT FOR THE FUTURE, I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. THAT'S MY OPINION. OF COURSE, IT'S JUST ONE VOTE. UH, THERE IS THE COUNCIL CAN THING OTHER WAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. BARRIOS. THANK YOU, MAYOR. MAYOR. UM, I, I BELIEVE I SEE WHERE THIS IS GOING. SO I JUST WANNA REITERATE SOMETHING I SAID THAT MAY HAVE GET GOTTEN LOST IN COMMENT, MY COMMENTS EARLIER. UM, IF THIS GETS PAST NIGHT, UM, I WANT TO CHALLENGE THIS AND THE NEXT COUNCIL OR TWO TO REALLY DEEPLY LOOK AT HOW WE CAN SUPPORT THE BUSINESSES THAT DO EXIST IN DOWNTOWN AND IN THE CORE DISTRICT, AND HOW WE CAN HELP FILL SOME OF THAT SPACE. UM, AND I'M NOT SURE, I DON'T, I'M NOT PRETENDING I HAVE THE ANSWER. UM, BUT I THINK THAT TOGETHER, ALONG WITH, UM, THE BUSINESS COMMITTEE THAT ALREADY EXISTS DOWN THERE, WE CAN SURELY COME UP WITH A SOLUTION BECAUSE PUTTING THESE HEADS WILL NOT SOLVE THE ISSUE OF NOT FILLED RETAIL. IT WILL NOT SOLVE THE ISSUE OF NOT HAVING A DESTINATION TO GO TO. UM, AND I THINK THAT IF WE DO, IF THIS ENDS UP GETTING APPROVED TONIGHT, I FEEL IT'S HEADING THAT WAY. WE, WE NEED TO TAKE IT UPON OURSELVES TO HELP, UH, DREAM BIG AND HELP SUPPORT THE RETAIL THERE AND HOW WE CAN GROW IT. 'CAUSE WE PUT, WE SUPPORT MORE RETAIL DOWN THERE, THEN THAT CREATES THAT VIABILITY AND THAT LIVELINESS THAT EVERYBODY'S WILLING TO DRIVE TO AND SHOP AT AND, UM, EXPERIENCE AND BENEFITS US ALL. THANK YOU, MS. JUSTICE. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, I'VE KEPT QUIET TONIGHT. I WANTED TO LISTEN TO WHAT EVERYONE HAD TO SAY, UM, BOTH FROM THE PUBLIC, FROM STAFF, AND FROM MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS. UM, AS SOME HAVE SAID, IT'S NOT AN EASY CASE. IT'S NOT EASY WHEN YOU HAVE RESIDENTS COME BEFORE YOU AND SAY THAT THEY DON'T LIKE IT FOR VARIOUS REASONS. UM, UH, BUT AS I'VE SAT HERE AND LISTENED, UM, TO BUSINESS OWNERS AND RESIDENTS ALIKE THAT ARE IN SUPPORT OF IT, UM, UH, FOR THOSE REASONS, AND, AND REALLY I THINK COUNCILMAN CORCORAN DID A REALLY ELOQUENT JOB OF DESCRIBING, UM, HIS SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT. AND I, I REALLY AGREE WITH THE RATIONALE THERE. UM, THE VISION IS TO DRIVE, PARK, AND WALK. UM, AND, AND HE JUST DESCRIBED EXACTLY SORT OF THAT VISION AND HOW IT'LL WORK, UM, FOR OUR DOWNTOWN. AND SO, AS SOME HAVE SAID, UM, THIS ISN'T A HUNDRED PERCENT THERE, BUT I THINK THAT THESE, UM, UH, DEVELOPERS IN TRAMMELL CROW HAVE, HAVE LISTENED. THEY'VE ADDED A WALKTHROUGH. THEY'VE MADE MORE PUBLIC OPEN SPACE, AND EVEN TONIGHT ADJUSTED TO PROVIDE 3000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL SPACE. UM, SO I, I THINK THAT THAT'S FANTASTIC. YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY OUTFITTING IT READY FOR RETAIL, I UNDERSTOOD YOU THAT IT WON'T ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, ON DAY ONE, LIKELY BE RETAIL, BUT I THINK THIS CHECKS ALL THE BOXES OF WHAT I'VE HEARD, UH, UH, BEING CONCERNS FROM, FROM RESIDENTS. UM, ARE WE TAKING AWAY MCKINNEY STREET? YES, BUT THERE'S A PASS THROUGH. UM, ARE WE PROVIDING PUBLIC OPEN SPACE? [04:40:01] YES. AND AS THE MAYOR POINTED OUT, WE HAVE, UH, THE CENTRAL TRAIL LEADING UP TO THE INTERURBAN PARK, UH, THE INTERURBAN COMMONS. NOW THEY'VE AGREED TONIGHT TO ADD RETAIL. AND SO I, I JUST FEEL LIKE, UM, WE'VE GOT A GOOD PARTNER HERE. IT'S GOT A GREAT PROJECT. IT'S GONNA SUPPORT THE 16,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL WE HAVE COMING IN AT THE NEST. UM, AND, AND IT'S GONNA SUPPORT THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE THERE NOW. SO, UM, I'VE, I'VE SAT IN SILENCE A LOT TONIGHT, REALLY SORT OF SITTING WITH THIS AND LISTENING TO EVERYONE. UM, AND, AND AFTER DOING THAT, UM, UM, I'M, I'M IN SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT. THANK YOU. WITH NO FURTHER WITH THE ADDED RETAIL. IF YOU'RE GONNA MAKE A MOTION WITH NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, I'D BE LOOKING FOR A MOTION. MR. HUTCHIN RIDER, WOULD YOU CARE TO? I, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, BUT I JUST WANNA SAY ONE THING TO COUNCILMAN BARRIOS. COUNCILMAN BARRIOS. SIX YEARS AGO, I WENT AS A PART OF CORE TO THE CHINESE LUNAR FESTIVAL. THERE WAS TWO ROWS OF THE TABLE AND VERY SMALL ATTENDANCE. WE'VE WORKED VERY, VERY DILIGENTLY. AND IF YOU WERE THERE SATURDAY, AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THIS IN MY COMMENT SECTIONS, IT WAS PACKED. AND SO I WOULD MAKE THE ARGUMENT TO YOU THAT WE HAVE THAT VISION ALREADY WITHIN CORE. WE HAD IT FOR THE, FOR THE LUNAR NEW YEAR, NEW YEAR'S ON SATURDAY. WE'VE DONE OTHER THINGS DOWN IN THE CORE. AND I THINK THAT THOSE, THAT MOMENTUM WILL CONTINUE. SO I WOULD MAKE THE, THE DISCUSSION POINT BACK TO YOU IS WE'RE ON THAT PATH ALREADY AND WE JUST NEED TO CONTINUE THAT PATH. SO I WOULD JUST THROW THAT OUT THERE. AND THEN I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ZONING FILE 24 DASH 31. UM, ALSO WITH THE ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 45 30, WITH THE MOTION TO HAVE RETAIL AT GROUND LEVEL, OR NO, I'M SORRY, HAVE, HAVE THE RETAIL WITH THESE 3000 FEET WITHOUT THE STOOP REQUIREMENT. IS THAT, IS THAT WHY I NEED TO SAY THAT? WELL, ACTUALLY, COUNCILMAN HUTCH AND IF, UH, I THINK IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION, UH, TO APPROVE AND THEN JUST SAY, UH, PROVIDE AN UPDATED CONCEPT PLAN SHOWING THE PEDESTRIAN, UH, CONNECTION AND RETAIL READY SPACE AT THE CORNER OF POLAND, TEXAS, AND THEN TO THE GROUND FLOOR AREA, THAT DESIGNATED ONLINE CONCEPT PLAN AS RETAIL READY SHALL BE EXEMPT FROM DESIGN STANDARDS FOR GROUND FLOOR RESIDENTIAL. THAT WOULD BE IN CONFLICT WITH FUTURE RETAIL. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THAT MOTION. THAT'S . ALRIGHT. DON'T ASK ME TO REPEAT IT, BUT YES, THAT'S THE MOTION I'D LIKE TO MAKE. MAYOR. OKAY, MS. JUSTICE. SECOND. ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION. A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR OF THE PRO, RAISE YOUR HAND IN OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT, THAT PASSES. FIVE TWO. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR YOUR HARD WORK ON THAT, COUNSEL. I KNOW THAT WAS LABOR INTENSE. WE APPRECIATE IT. UM, I TELL YOU WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO BEFORE WE GO TO THE NEXT ACTION ITEM ON NUMBER EIGHT. WE'RE GONNA TAKE A 10 MINUTE BREAK. THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT NEED TO DO SOMETHING. MAYBE FIVE MINUTES. JUST MAKE IT FIVE MINUTES AND WE'LL BE BACK. THIS , SORRY. I'LL BE LAST. I'M READY. I'M LISTENING. ALRIGHT, WE WILL RECONVENE. [8. CONSIDER RESOLUTION NO. 25-02, ORDERING A GENERAL ELECTION TO BE HELD ON THE 3RD DAY OF MAY 2025, FOR THE PURPOSE OF ELECTING A MAYOR AND SIX (6) MEMBERS OF THE RICHARDSON CITY COUNCIL; DESIGNATING POLLING PLACES; ORDERING NOTICES OF ELECTION TO BE GIVEN; AND AUTHORIZING EXECUTION OF JOINT ELECTION CONTRACTS. ] ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, CONSIDER RESOLUTION NUMBER 25 DASH OH TWO. ORDER IN A GENERAL ELECTION TO BE HELD ON THE THIRD DAY OF MAY, 2025 FOR THE PURPOSE OF ELECTING A MAYOR AND SIX MEMBERS OF THE RICHARDSON CITY COUNCIL. DESIGNATING POLLING, PLACES, ORDERING NOTICES OF ELECTION TO BE GIVEN AND AUTHORIZING EXECUTION OF A JOINT ELECTION CONTRACTS. MR. MAGOR. UH, THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, THIS SECTION, UH, IS JUST IN ADVANCE OF, UH, THE UPCOMING, UH, UH, CITY COUNCIL ELECTIONS. AND SO, UH, IF YOU JUST PASS THIS TONIGHT, I'LL LET CITY SECRETARY BEGIN THE WORK TO IMPLEMENT THAT, UH, THAT ELECTION CYCLE. MR. HUTCHEN RIDER, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION AS PRESENTED FOR RESOLUTION NUMBER 25 0 2, MS. JUSTICE. SECOND. GOT A MOTION TO SECOND ALL IF FAVOR, SHOW OF HANDS PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. [9. CONSIDER RESOLUTION NO. 25-03, SUPPORTING THE FULL FUNDING OF THE DALLAS AREA RAPID TRANSIT (DART) SYSTEM AND URGING CONTINUED INVESTMENT IN PUBLIC TRANSIT. ] THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM NUMBER NINE. CONSIDER RESOLUTION NUMBER 25 DASH OH THREE, SUPPORTING THE FULL FUNDING OF THE DALLAS AREA RAPID TRANSIT OR DART SYSTEM, AND URGING CONTINUED INVESTMENT IN PUBLIC TRANSIT. MR. MAGER. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UH, SUBSEQUENT TO, UH, OUR DART BRIEFING WITH, UH, CHAIRMAN SLAGEL, WHO IS, UH, HERE TONIGHT AS WELL, UH, CITY COUNCIL, YOU, UH, ASKED ME TO, UH, UH, FACILITATE THE ADDITION OF THE RESOLUTION ON YOUR NEXT AGENDA. AND SO IT'S THERE FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TONIGHT. ALRIGHTYY MS. JUSTICE, UH, THANK YOU, MAYOR, UH, PASSIONATELY IN FAVOR AND MAKE A MOTION FOR, UH, RESOLUTION 25 0 3 IS PRESENTED. MR. DORIAN, I SECOND THAT. ALL IN FAVOR? SHOW OF HANDS PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU FOR STAYING UP LATE WITH THIS MAYOR [10. REPORT ON ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST ] ALL. NUMBER 10, WE'RE GONNA REPORT ON ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST. YOU THINK ANYONE'S STILL INTERESTED? , I, THE, THE [04:45:02] HUGE CONGRATULATIONS, I THOUGHT, LIKE I SAID EARLIER, SIX YEARS CHINESE NEW YEAR, LUNAR, UH, LUNAR NIGHT, NEW YEAR, OUTSTANDING JOB. JOHNNY LEE, THE CITY, EVERYBODY WORKING TOGETHER. FANTASTIC JOB. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR THAT. THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE, COUNSEL ALRIGHTYY? THAT SOUNDS WONDERFUL, MAYOR. MR. MAGNAR? YES, SIR. YES. YOU GOT A SOMETHING TO SAY. THANK YOU, MAYOR, UH, MAYOR, IN ACCORDANCE WITH, UH, THE COUNCIL RULES OF ORDER AND PROCEDURE, I WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT, UM, YOU, UH, HAS ASKED ME TO ADD TO, UH, AN AGENDA, UH, A DISCUSSION REGARDING THE BROADCASTING, UH, THE RECORDING AND BROADCASTING OF CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION MEETINGS. UM, I WAS, UH, ALSO RECEIVED A NUMBER OF INQUIRIES AND RESEARCH WAS REQUESTED. I'VE COMPLETED THAT RESEARCH AND NOW WE'LL BE PUTTING THAT ITEM ON THE AGENDA FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND DISCUSSION ON FEBRUARY THE 17TH NEXT WEEK. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING AND DOING THAT RESEARCH FOR US. SO, OKAY, [EXECUTIVE SESSION] WITH THAT BEING SAID, IN COMPLIANCE WITH SECTION 5 51 0.0 8, 7, 1, AND TWO OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE COUNCIL WILL CONVENE INTO A CLOSED EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS THE FOLLOWING DELIBERATION REGARDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS, COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, WEST RENNER ROAD, ALMA ROAD AREA. THE TIME IS CURRENTLY 10 57. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.