Apr 01, 2025 City Planning Commission Meetings

AND ORNAMENTAL TREES PLANTED.

THE SUBJECT'S SITE IS AT 3,600 SHILOH ROAD.

IT IS APPROXIMATELY SEVEN ACRES.

IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED OM OFFICE WITH SPECIAL CONDITIONS FOR AN ASSISTED LIVING CENTER.

THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING TO REZONE TO A PLAN DEVELOPMENT FOR 89 TOWNHOME UNITS.

THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH TO THE NORTH HAS BEEN DEVELOPED WITH A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE EAST IS A, UH, OFFICE PARK IN OFFICE DEVELOPMENT TO THE SOUTH IS THE ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY, AND TO THE WEST ACROSS SHILOH ROAD IS THE CITY OF PLANO, WHERE 91 TOWN HOMES ARE CURRENTLY BEING DEVELOPED.

THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN CALLS FOR THIS AREA AS THE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICE PLACE TYPE, WHICH IDENTIFIES ATTACHED SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING AS A SECONDARY USE.

IN 2006, THIS PROPERTY WAS ZONED ALONG WITH THE IMMEDIATE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH, WHERE THE ASSISTED LIVING CENTER IS LOCATED TO OFFICE WITH SPECIAL CONDITIONS TO ALLOW THE ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY.

THEN IN 2017, THIS PROPERTY WAS, UH, APPROVED FOR A SPECIAL PERMIT FOR A PRIVATE SCHOOL THAT NEVER DEVELOPED, AND THE PROPERTY REMAINS UNDEVELOPED TODAY.

HERE ARE SOME PHOTOS OF THE SITE, A SCENE FROM ACROSS SHILOH ROAD, AND THEN LOOKING SOUTH.

THE CONCEPT PLAN PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT SHOWS THERE ARE 89 UNITS AND 20 BUILDINGS THROUGHOUT THE SITE.

THE MINIMUM LOT, THE LOTS WILL BE A MINIMUM SIZE OF 1300 SQUARE FEET AND A MINIMUM UNIT SIZE OF 1700 SQUARE FEET.

ALL OF THE UNITS WILL FACE ONTO OPEN SPACE OR COMMON SPACE.

SO THE PROPERTIES OR THE UNITS ALONG SHILOH ROAD WILL FACE TOWARD SHILOH ROAD FRONTAGE.

UH, THEY WILL BE SET BACK FROM THE STREET BY 60 FEET.

IN THAT 60 FOOT SETBACK, THERE'S A 30 FOOT DRAINAGE EASEMENT, AND THEN THERE'S ALSO A 30 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER WHERE THERE WILL BE AN EIGHT FOOT SIDEWALK AND STREET TREES

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THE INTERIOR UNITS WILL ALL FACE TOWARDS COMMON SPACE AND THE INTERIOR OF THE SITE AND THE REAR OF THE HOMES WILL FACE UPON PRIVATE STREETS THAT ARE 24 FOOT WIDE FIRE LANES AS WELL.

SO THE REAR OF THE HOMES WILL HAVE A GARAGE WITH TWO CARS, AN ENCLOSED GARAGE FOR TWO CARS, AND THEN THERE WILL BE 67 VISITOR PARKING SPACES PROVIDED THROUGHOUT THE SITE ALONG THE SOUTH, SOUTHERN AND EASTERN PROPERTY LINE.

PRIMARILY.

THERE'S PARALLEL PARKING.

UH, THERE IS 27% OF OPEN SPACE PROVIDED ON SITE, AS I MENTIONED, THE 60 FOOT SETBACK ALONG SHILOH ROAD.

AND THEN THERE WILL BE A LANDSCAPE BUFFER ALONG THE OTHER PROPERTY LINES ALONG THE NORTHERN EASTERN AND SOUTHERN PROPERTY LINE WHERE A LANDSCAPE BUFFER.

THERE WILL ALSO BE PLANTED WITH ONE ORNAMENTAL TREE PER EVERY 30 LINEAR FEET.

THERE WILL BE SCREENING TO THE PROPERTY.

THERE'S AN EXISTING SCREENING WALL.

IT'S SEVEN FEET, NINE INCHES TALL.

THAT'S A MASONRY SCREENING WALL THAT SCREENS THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE SOUTH, THAT ALL TO THE NORTH THAT'S EXISTING.

IN ADDITION, THE APPLICANT HAS PROPOSED A SIX FOOT TALL MASON RE SCREENING WALL ALONG THE EASTERN PROPERTY LINE AND SOUTHERN PROPERTY LINE.

UM, AND THE SITE WILL NOT CONNECT TO THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOODS.

THE CIRCULATION WILL ALL REMAIN ON SITE.

THERE WILL BE TWO POINTS OF ACCESS ALONG SHILOH ROAD.

THERE WILL BE TWO NEW DRIVEWAYS, UM, AND THIS WILL NOT BE A GATED COMMUNITY.

UM, IN ADDITION, THERE WILL BE A FOUR FOOT SIDEWALK NETWORK THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT, AND THAT CONNECTS TO THE FRONT OF EACH UNIT.

THERE WILL BE A 2000 SQUARE FOOT DOG PARK IN THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE SITE AND A 5,000 SQUARE FOOT OPEN SPACE COMMON GATHERING AREA IN THE CENTER OF THE SITE.

THAT WILL ALSO INCLUDE AMENITIES LIKE LIGHTING AND SEATING.

UH, THE CITY'S ZONING, I'M SORRY, THE CITY'S SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS DO REQUIRE LOTS FOR LOTS TO FRONT ONTO PUBLIC OR PRIVATE STREETS.

AND AS I MENTIONED, THESE LOTS WILL F FRONT ONTO COMMON AREAS.

SO THEY WILL BE SEEKING RELIEF FOR THAT, UH, STANDARD FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT.

AND ALSO THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL BE REQUIRED TO ESTABLISH AN HOA THAT WILL BE, THAT WILL MAINTAIN THE OPEN SPACE, THE COMMON AREAS, INCLUDING VISITOR PARKING, THE PRIVATE STREETS, THE LANDSCAPE FEATURES, AND THE FRONT OF ALL OF THE DWELLING UNITS AND THE EXTERIOR OF ALL THE DWELLING UNITS.

THESE ARE THE ARCHITECTURAL RENDERINGS PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT THAT SHOW A STYLE OF, UM, STONE AND MASONRY ON THE FRONT OF THE BUILDINGS.

THE SIDES WILL HAVE SIDING, AND THEN HERE'S ALSO A ELEVATION PROVIDED FOR THE SIDES AND FOR THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY.

HERE'S ANOTHER STYLE, SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT FROM THE OTHER ONE, BUT THIS ONE WILL ALSO, UH, PROVIDE THE SAME TYPE OF ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES AND ARCHITECTURAL, UM, ELEMENTS ON THE FRONT AND THE SIDES MASONRY ON THE FRONT OF THIS ONE AS WELL.

UM, HERE I WILL POINT OUT THE PROPOSED HEIGHT OF THE UNITS ARE THREE STORIES AND 45 FEET TALL.

SO IN OUR TY IN OUR TYPICAL TOWN HOME STANDARDS FROM THE, FROM THE BASE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE, TOWN HOMES ARE LIMITED TO ONLY TWO STORIES AND 40 FEET TALL.

IF THEY ARE WITHIN 150 FEET OF A RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH SOME OF THESE UNITS WILL BE WITHIN THAT BUFFER AREA.

SO FOR THOSE UNITS ALONG THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THIS PROPERTY, UH, THEY WILL BE SEEKING RELIEF FOR THOSE PARTICULAR UNITS THAT WILL BE, UH, 45 FEET TALL INSTEAD OF 40 FEET TALL.

HERE'S A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT IS TYPICALLY FOUND IN THE STANDARDS FOR THE TOWNHOME ZONING DEVELOPMENTS AND THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.

SO HERE THEY ARE INCREASING THE MINIMUM UNIT SIZE FROM 1300 TO 1700 SQUARE FEET.

THEY ARE DROPPING DOWN THE MINIMUM LOT AREA FROM 1750 TO 1300 SQUARE FEET.

UM, THEY ARE ASKING FOR RELIEF FOR MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE FROM 75% TO 85%.

UM, AND THEY ARE EXCEEDING THE TYPICAL PARKING STANDARD FOR TOWN HOME UNITS, WHICH IS 0.5 OR HALF A PARKING SPACE PER EVERY UNIT WHERE THEY ARE PROVIDING 0.7 PARKING SPACES FOR GUESTS PER UNIT IN ADDITION TO THOSE TWO PARKING SPACES IN THEIR GARAGE.

UM, I'LL ALSO POINT OUT IN THE TOP NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE SITE, THERE'S A, A WHITE AREA THAT IS OWNED BY COLLIN COUNTY.

IT'S THIS LANDLOCKED PARCEL, UM, THAT'S NOT PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, UH, ALTHOUGH THE APPLICANT IS TRYING TO ENGAGE WITH COLLIN COUNTY TO POSSIBLY INCORPORATE THAT AREA INTO THIS DEVELOPMENT, BUT AT THIS TIME, IT IS NOT CONSIDERED AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

IT WILL BE FENCED OFF BY THAT MASONRY SCREENING WALL, AND THERE WILL BE A GATE ACCESS FOR MAINTENANCE TO GO AND MOW THAT, THAT TRACK OUT THERE.

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AND FINALLY, SHOULD THE CPC UH, RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST AS PRESENTED, THE MOTIONS SHOULD INCLUDE THE CONDITIONS THAT THE DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPMENT BE DEVELOPED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THESE CONCEPT PLAN, THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, AND THE REPRESENTATIVE TOWNHOME ELEVATIONS I SHOWED, AND THIS WAS A, UH, PUBLIC HEARING AND PUBLIC NOTIFICATION WENT OUT.

AND AS OF THE STATES STAFF HAS RECEIVED THREE PUBLIC CO COMMENTS AND OPPOSITION OF THE REQUEST THAT RELATE TO TWO OF THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES.

AND THOSE COMMENTS ARE IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT.

AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND I ANSWER, I COULD ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

COMMISSIONER ROBERTS, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? UM, NO THANK YOU.

YOUR LIGHT WAS ON.

THEY WERE, OH, SORRY.

THEY WERE ANSWERED DURING THE, UH, WORKING SESSION.

COMMISSIONER PURDY.

HOW SUCCESSFUL HAS IT BEEN WITH, UH, INTRODUCING THE A OA FOR A BUILD LIKE THIS? IS THAT PRETTY EASY? THE NEW RESIDENTS KIND OF TAKE HOLD OF THAT CONCEPT AND GET IT DONE? THE HOA YES.

IT'S, IT'S PRETTY STANDARD NOW FOR THESE COM, THESE AREAS, DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE SO MANY COMMON SPACES AND SHARED WALLS SHARED, THERE ARE LOT LINE DEVELOPMENTS THAT SHARE ALL OF THESE COMMON AREAS.

THE DEVELOPERS, UH, HAVE THAT ROUTINE OF ESTABLISHING THAT HOA, UH, WHICH WILL ULTIMATELY, UH, PAY FOR THE PRIVATE STREETS AND MAINTENANCE OF THE COMMON AREAS.

UH, I HAD A QUESTION.

UH, SO IN LOOKING AT THE, UM, THE ROADWAY ON SHILOH, SO THE, THE ONLY LEFT TURN, UH, SOUTHBOUND IS GONNA BE ON THE SOUTHERLY DRIVEWAY, IS THAT CORRECT? THE, THE NORTHERLY DRIVEWAY IS JUST GONNA BE RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT, CORRECT.

SOUTHERLY DRIVEWAY WILL LINE UP WITH THAT MEDIAN, WHICH WILL BE, IT'S NOT CURRENTLY, UH, DOESN'T CURRENTLY LOOK HOW IT LOOKS ON THE CONCEPT PLAN, BUT IT WILL BE MODIFIED FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT TO ALLOW VEHICLE STACKING FOR LEFT BOUND TRAFFIC FROM THE SOUTH.

AND THE, UM, THE, THE 27 FOOT, 27 AND A HALF FOOT DRAINAGE AND, UH, WATER WATERLINE EASEMENT, UH, THAT'S IN FRONT OF THE TOWN HOME SPACE IN SHILOH, IS THAT AN EXISTING EASEMENT THAT'S EXISTING? UH, AND THAT KIND OF PRESENTED AN AREA WHERE THERE IS A NO BUILD ZONE FOR THE, FOR THE DEVELOPER, BUT THEY SAW IT AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SET THE BUILDINGS BACK FROM SHILOH AND RE THAT AREA BECAUSE THAT'S CONNECTED TO THE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH.

SO IT WASN'T SO MUCH A CONCESSION AS JUST AN EXISTING RIGHT.

CONDITION THAT HAD TO BE MET.

AND THEN PLAN AROUND IT.

AND THEN, UH, AS FAR AS THE, UM, A HUNDRED AND FOOT 50 FOOT SETBACK FROM RESIDENTIAL, THAT WOULD ONLY APPLY TO THE NORTH PROPERTY LINE, CORRECT.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO THE NORTH.

SO IT DOESN'T APPLY TO THE SENIOR LIVING TO THE SOUTH? IT DOES NOT.

IT DOES NOT.

UM, AND SO DO YOU KNOW APPROXIMATELY WHERE THAT 150 FOOT LINE IS? I'M GUESSING IT'S SOMEWHERE AROUND THE, UH, SOUTH SIDE OF THE DRIVEWAY, UH, SOUTH OF THE, THE DOG PARK.

THAT'S RIGHT.

KIND OF THE BEGINNING OF THAT BLOCK RIGHT THERE.

THAT'S RIGHT.

AND THERE'S ABOUT 15 UNITS THAT FALL INTO THAT BUFFER FROM THERE.

IT WOULD AFFECT THOSE FIVE NORTHERNMOST BUILDINGS ON THE NORTHWEST.

YEAH, THE, THE ORANGE BUILDINGS ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER, THE TWO YELLOW ONES, AND THEN THE TWO BROWN ONES TO THE EAST.

YEAH, I I IF THE, EACH OF THOSE, UM, EACH OF THOSE STREETS IS ABOUT 24 FEET WIDE.

SO, OKAY.

UH, BUT THAT'S, UH, AGAIN, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT THE NUMBER OF STORIES, IT'S THE HEIGHT.

IT'S A FIVE FOOT DIFFERENCE.

IT'S BOTH, IT'S THREE STORIES.

UH, WHEN TYPICALLY TWO STORIES WOULD BE THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED.

SO IT'S BOTH THE HEIGHT AND THE CATEGORY TWO STORIES VERSUS THREE, BUT IT WAS TWO STORIES, 40 FEET.

AND THEY'RE ASKING FOR THREE STORIES.

45 FEET, RIGHT.

THREE STORIES, 45 FEET.

SO YOU'RE CONSIDERING IT A DEVIATION FROM, FROM BOTH.

MM-HMM .

BOTH NUMBER OF STORIES AND THE HEIGHT, RIGHT? MM-HMM .

THAT'S CORRECT.

UM, BUT THERE IS NO HEIGHT RESTRICTION THEN ON THE EAST SIDE OR ON THE SOUTH SIDE? NO, THERE'S NOT THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.

CURRENTLY, THE OFFICE ZONING WOULD ALLOW 130 FEET,

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DOUBLE CHECK THAT.

ALL RIGHT.

WE CAN COME BACK TO THAT.

MM-HMM .

AND, UM, AS FAR AS THE VISITOR PARKING, UM, OBVIOUSLY YOU STATED THAT, THAT IT DOES, IT'S MORE THAN WHAT'S TYPICALLY REQUIRED IN A BASE TOWNHOUSE ZONING.

POINT TWO FIVE MORE.

BUT DID YOU, DID STAFF REALLY LOOK AT THE PLACEMENT OF THAT AND THINK ABOUT HOW REALISTIC IT IS? UM, IT SEEMS LIKE THE MAJORITY OF IT'S EITHER, YOU KNOW, ON THE NORTH END OR THE SOUTH END OR THE EAST END OR EAST SIDE.

THERE'S REALLY NOT A WHOLE LOT RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OTHER THAN BY THE, UH, SEATING AREA.

YEAH, WE TOOK A LOOK AT THAT.

IT'S PRETTY EVENLY DISTRIBUTED, BUT LIKE YOU SAID, THOSE FRONT, UH, THOSE UNITS FACING SHILOH ROAD OR KIND OF OUT THERE, AND WE DID ASK THAT THEY PROVIDE A SIDEWALK TO THE FRONT OF EACH OF THOSE UNITS TO AT LEAST PROVIDE THAT ACCESS.

UM, BUT OTHERWISE, YEAH, THEY'RE GONNA BE MORE TOWARDS THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.

AND SO THE AND, AND THE, AND THE SIDEWALKS BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS ALONG THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE PROPERTY TO WHERE MOST OF THAT PARKING IS LOCATED, THOSE ARE 10.

ARE THOSE JUST FOUR FEET WIDE SIDEWALKS? THEY'RE FOUR FEET WIDE.

IS IT, AND THERE'S, IS IT FOOT WIDE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS? CORRECT.

IS THAT RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT.

MR. THOMASON.

UM, I WAS CURIOUS, THIS TODAY'S SEVEN ACRES OF GREEN SPACE, AND SO IT ABSORBS WHATEVER RAIN AND RUNOFF THERE IS.

AND SO WE'LL HAVE 27.5% OPEN SPACE.

WHEN THIS IS SAID AND DONE, I DON'T SEE ANY RETENTION PONDS.

AND I'M JUST CURIOUS HOW STAFF LOOKS AT THIS FROM A DRAINAGE AND RETENTION AND MAKING SURE THAT THE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE HAS ENOUGH SEWAGE DRAINAGE, UM, CAPACITY.

IS THAT, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS ARE PREPARED TO SPEAK TO OR? YEAH, WE'VE REVIEWED THIS TOGETHER AS A TEAM, AND SO OUR, UM, DEVELOPMENT ENGINEERING DIVISION HAS LOOKED AT THIS AND, UM, I DON'T THINK THAT THEY HAD HAD ANY ISSUES WITH, UM, WITH THE, WITH DRAINAGE.

SO I THINK THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN PLANNED FOR IN THIS AREA.

AND I THINK THE, THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT THAT'S ALONG SHILOH ROAD WILL HELP WITH THAT.

UM, AND SO, UM, BUT THEY'LL, THEY'LL GO THROUGH A FULL CIVIL REVIEW, UM, AFTER UPON APPROVAL OF THEIR, UM, THEIR ZONING REQUEST, UM, AND THAT WE'LL LOOK AT AT DRAINAGE IN MORE DETAIL.

MY NEXT QUESTION, I THINK IN ONE OF THE ACTUAL SHOTS, PICTURE SHOTS, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH PAGE IT WAS, IT SHOWED, UM, POWER LINES THAT WERE ALONG THE, THE ROADWAY RIGHT THERE.

UM, ARE THOSE CONTEMPLATED TO BE BURIED LINES OR WILL THOSE STAY AS IS? DO WE KNOW? UM, DO WE KNOW THAT, UH, THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT FOR THEM TO BE REMOVED? UH, I WOULD IMAGINE THEY'RE PROBABLY GONNA STAY.

BUT IF, IF THE DEVELOPER WANTED TO TAKE THEM DOWN, THEY, THEY COULD PUT THEM UNDERGROUND AT THEIR EXPENSE.

AT THEIR EXPENSE.

COMMISSIONER ROBERTS, SO THIS IS, IT'S PROBABLY OBVIOUS, BUT I HAVE TO ASK ANYWAY.

I'M ASSUMING EACH TOWN HOME IS GONNA BE THREE STORIES, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

AND I ASKED THAT 'CAUSE I'VE SEEN DUPLEXES AND THAT WHERE THERE'S AN UP AND DOWN, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, OKAY.

UM, WE'VE GOT MULTIPLE BRANDS THAT WE DEPLOY ACROSS THE NATION THAT YOU CAN SEE.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ANY OTHER REMARKS? OKAY.

THEN WE WOULD ASK THE, UH, APPLICANT TO PLEASE COME FORWARD.

AND AGAIN, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

HI, GOOD EVENING.

UH, MIKE GZA WITH PULTE HOMES.

I'M AT 30 30 TOWNSEND DRIVE IN FRISCO.

ALL RIGHT.

JUST WANTED TO GIVE A QUICK OVERVIEW.

UM, I DON'T WANNA REPEAT ANYTHING THAT YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN HERE, BUT JUST TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW WHO WE ARE AS A BUILDER.

UM, FOR THOSE THAT ARE NOT FAMILIAR, UM, WE'RE PART OF PULTE GROUP.

WE OPERATE MULTIPLE BRANDS ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

WE'RE THE THIRD LARGEST BUILDER IN THE UNITED STATES.

WE'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR 75 YEARS, DELIVERED OVER 800,000 HOMES NATIONALLY.

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THERE ARE PULTE HOMES.

CTX AND LL WEB ARE THREE BRANDS THAT ARE VERY ACTIVE HERE IN THE DFW AREA AND SOME OTHER BRANDS THAT ARE OUT ON THE EAST COAST IN THE SOUTHERN MARKETS LOCALLY.

THIS IS JUST A KIND OF A CURRENT SNAPSHOT.

NOTHING THAT'S IN THE PIPELINE, BUT ACTIVE COMMUNITIES.

WE'VE GOT 28 ACTIVE SELLING COMMUNITIES ACROSS DFW.

UH, THIS INCLUDES, UH, DELL WEB AND PULTE AND OUR SYNTEX BRANDS.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE SERVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT, A LOT OF DIFFERENT BUYER GROUPS FROM FIRST TIME HOME BUYER TO MOVE UP AND SECOND MOVE UP TO OUR AGE RESTRICTED ACTIVE ADULT, WHICH IS OUR, OUR DEL WEB BRAND.

SO A LONG HISTORY AS A COMPANY, A LONG HISTORY HERE IN, UH, DALLAS FORT WORTH AREA.

SO WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE CONCEPT PLAN HERE AND JUST, YOU KNOW, WE WANTED TO PUT A LOT OF THOUGHT IN THE DESIGN TO HAVE THAT CONNECTABILITY, YOU KNOW, WITH ALL THE SIDEWALKS, NOT ONLY WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, BUT OUT THE SHILOH.

UM, ONE THING THAT WAS TALKED ABOUT IS THE COUNTY PROPERTY THAT'S IN THAT NORTHEAST CORNER.

WE ARE GOING TO REACH OUT TO SOMEONE WITH THE COUNTY.

UM, WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE AN APPETITE TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT IT.

WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO ADD ADDITIONAL UNITS OR, OR REDO THE CONCEPT PLAN, BUT RATHER WOULD BE BENEFICIAL IF WE COULD WORK OUT SOMETHING TO WHERE WE COULD ACQUIRE THAT, INCORPORATE IT JUST PART OF MORE OPEN GREEN SPACE.

SO WE'RE COMMITTED TO RUNNING THAT TRAP AND SEE WHAT THE COUNTY'S APPETITE IS FOR.

DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THEY HAVE A LOT OF USE FOR IT CURRENTLY, BUT IT COULD BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY AND THE ADJACENT HOMEOWNER, HOMEOWNERS, UH, TO THE NORTH WHERE MAYBE THIS HAS BEEN KIND OF A MAINTENANCE KIND OF ISSUE ON AND OFF OVER THE YEARS.

UH, YOU SAW THE PRODUCT.

I DO JUST WANT TO POINT OUT ON THE REAR ELEVATIONS, THIS WAS TAKEN FROM, UH, SOME CONCEPTS THAT WE HAD IN ANOTHER MARKET.

ALL OF THESE WILL BE TWO CAR GARAGE, SO IGNORE THE LITTLE ONE CAR, SINGLE CAR THAT'S JUST NOT TO SCALE.

THESE WILL ALL BE THE 22 FOOT, UM, 22 FOOT WIDE.

THE HEIGHT OF THESE, WE ARE ASKING FOR THAT, THAT VARIANCE.

UM, OF THE FIVE FEET FROM 40 TO 45 RIGHT NOW, THESE TWO ASKING OUR, UH, ARCHITECTURAL DEPARTMENT, THEY'RE COMING IN AROUND 41, 42.

BUT WE ASK FOR THAT JUST ONCE WE BUILD THE PADS UP FOR THAT VARIANCE THERE.

UM, YOU KNOW, ON THE, ON THE CONCEPT PLAN, WE WANTED TO BE MINDFUL WITH THE TOWN HOMES NOT DIRECTLY BACKING TO THE RESIDENCE TO THE NORTH WITH ANY BACK OF THE HOME.

YOU SEE THE SIDE ELEVATION, SO NICE ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES, BUT IT'S NOT A LIVING AREA.

IT'S NOT A THIRD STORY BALCONY THAT'S OVERLOOKING.

SO WE WERE TRIED TO BE MINDFUL ON HOW THAT COULD AFFECT THE VIEWS INTO OTHER ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOODS AS WELL.

AND AGAIN, THOSE WOULD BE ALL TWO CAR ACROSS THE, UH, ACROSS THE BOTTOM THERE.

THAT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT PULTE GROUP, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

COMMISSIONER THOMAS? OH, I'M SORRY.

I I DID, I SKIPPED OVER ONE PART HERE.

A LOT OF OUR TOWN HOMES THAT WE, WE HAVE HERE, THEY'RE ABOUT 1900 TO 2100 SQUARE FEET, UM, FOR A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT MODELS THERE.

AND OUR AVERAGE TARGET SALES PRICE THAT WE'RE LOOKING IS IN THE RIGHT NOW, LIKE LOW TO MID 500,000 RANGE.

NOW, COMMISSIONER THOMASON.

UM, QUESTION IS ABOUT THE HOA ASPECT OF THIS AND, AND WHAT YOUR INTENTIONS ARE, OBVIOUSLY AS IT STARTS TO BUILD AND DELIVER, THESE ARE, AT LEAST THE WAY I UNDERSTAND IT, INDIVIDUALLY OWNED UNITS INDIVIDUALLY, PLATTED UNITS IN THAT SENSE.

CORRECT.

AND, UH, THEREFORE YOU AS A DEVELOPER WILL BE THE, THE HOA FOR SOME PERIOD OF TIME.

AT WHAT POINT DO YOU ANTICIPATE THAT TURNING OVER TO THE RESIDENTS OWNERS THAT ARE THERE? IS THAT AT A 51% OR HOW DO YOU ANTICIPATE THAT ASPECT OF THE HOA? SURE.

SO TYPICALLY OUR PROCESS IS, I BELIEVE IT AT 75% OCCUPANCY WE BRING ON A RESIDENT BOARD MEMBER.

WE'RE STILL THE DECLARANT UNTIL THERE'S 90% BUILD OUT.

AND, AND OCCUPANCY HAPPENS WHILE YOU'RE STILL DEVELOPING OTHER BUILDINGS? CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT STAGING ELEMENT? YES.

UM, I BELIEVE THAT'S WHEN WE BRING ON THE SECOND AND AT FULL BUILD OUT, WE'LL TURN IT OVER, UM, TO A HOMEOWNER RUN, HOA.

SO WE'VE GOT HOAS IN EVERY ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE VERY WELL VERSED IN BUILDING THE APPROPRIATE RESERVE FUNDS TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NOT A SHORTFALL.

WE KNOW THE THINGS THAT COME WITH MAINTENANCE OF THE COMMUNITY, SCREEN WALLS, LANDSCAPE AND ALL THAT.

SO YEAH, IT WOULD BE RIGHT AT THE, THE TAIL END OF BUILD OUT WHEN WE TURN IT OVER, BUT WE BRING IN A RESIDENT SO THAT TRANSITIONS EASIER, EASIER.

SO THE NEXT QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS, IS RELATED TO JUST SORT OF THE, THE DEVELOPMENT.

IT'S 89 UNITS.

DO YOU EXPECT THAT, UH, ALL 89 WILL BE COED AT THE SAME TIME, OR WILL THIS BE ONE BUILDING AT A TIME AND THEN THEREFORE YOU'RE SELLING OR PRE-SELLING AND THEN OWNERSHIP

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UH, THE LADDER OF WHAT YOU SUGGESTED THERE, THESE WON'T ALL BE BUILT AT THE SAME TIME.

THESE WILL BE BUILT AS WE, I, I THINK CADENCE IS, WE'RE RUNNING AT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ASSUMING PROBABLY A SALES BASE ABSORPTION OF SOMEWHERE BETWEEN FIVE TO EIGHT A MONTH.

AND SO WE'LL STAY AHEAD OF THAT PRODUCTION, BUT NO, THESE WON'T ALL GO VERTICAL AT THE SAME TIME.

MM-HMM .

COMMISSIONER PURDY? YES.

CAN YOU SHARE ANY INSIGHTS IN HOW, HOW YOU CAME UP WITH THE TARGETED AVERAGE SALES PRICE? SURE.

SO WE, WE'VE RUN A LOT OF MARKET COMPS, KIND OF IN AND AROUND THE RICHARDSON AND PLANO AREA, BUT PROBABLY THE BEST COMP IS DIRECTLY TO THE WEST.

UM, THEY'RE DOING A VERY SIMILAR SIZE LOT.

BEEZER IS THE DEVELOPER THERE.

THEY'RE TRANSACTING IN THAT LOW TO MID FIVE HUNDREDS.

THEY'LL LIKELY BE DONE WITH THEIRS.

AND THEN DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET, SEEN THE SIGN FOR CB JENNY, UM, WHICH IS A, YOU KNOW, PART OF A GREEN BRICK.

THEY BUILD A VERY HIGH END, UH, TOWNHOME.

I'M FAMILIAR WITH THEIR PRODUCT AND, AND THEIR TEAM THERE.

SO IT'S KIND OF ALL GONNA ALIGN THERE.

SO WE PULLED THE MARKET COMPS ON WHAT WE SEE SUPPORTING IN THAT LOW TO MID 500 RANGE.

COMMISSIONER BEACH, I JUST WANNA CLARIFY WITH RESPECT TO THE HOA, THIS WILL BE A MANDATORY HOA, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

AND DO YOU KNOW, UH, UH, THE BEEZER DEVELOPMENT ACROSS THE STREET, UH, WHAT SORT OF DENSITY THEY'RE GONNA BE BUILDING TO, UH, THE CURRENT BEES ARE? ONE IS, IS RIGHT AROUND THE SAME DENSITY AS THIS, AND I THINK ON THE, THE, UH, CB JENNY TRACK AT 92 UNITS ON THAT ONE, OR 91, I THINK THAT WAS, THAT WAS SHOWN.

I THINK THEY'RE RIGHT AROUND THE SAME DENSITY.

MAYBE A LITTLE MORE AT 12.78 OR SOMETHING.

13 UNITS AN YES.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I HAD A QUESTION, UH, YOU PROBABLY HEARD OF STAFF EARLIER ABOUT THE PARKING MM-HMM .

UH, SO AGAIN, TO ME, JUST LOOKING AT IT, IF I'M, YOU KNOW, UM, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE, OF THE DEVELOPMENT, UM, AND I'VE GOT VISITORS, HOW, HOW LONG OF A WALK IS THAT? AND FOR, FOR THE VISITORS TO PARK TO GET TO MY UNIT? TWO MINUTES.

I MEAN, MINUTE, I MEAN, IT, IT'S PRETTY CLOSE.

IF I'M, IF I'M LIKE, YOU KNOW, TWO OR THREE UNITS NORTH OF THE, UM, THE SEATING AREA AND THOSE, THOSE FOUR SPACES ARE ALL TAKEN, UH, ON BOTH SIDES, YOU KNOW, SO THEY'VE GOTTA GO THROUGH THE PACK TWO ROWS OF BUILDINGS PAST THE MUSE TO THE EAST PARKING, OR POTENTIALLY ALL THE WAY TO THE SOUTH, OR THE NORTH IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT KIND OF DISTANCE THAT IS.

I MEAN, IF YOU WERE PARKED ON THE SOUTH AND SAY YOU HAD TO GO TO THE NORTH OF THE COMMON AREA, SO 22, 1 56, 650 FEET.

AND I GUESS THIS IS JUST YOUR ARCHITECT, OR OH, YES.

SORRY, ENGINEER.

MATT ALD, UH, 61 60 WARREN PARKWAY, UH, WORKED FOR KIMLEY HORN.

SO PART OF THE, AS WE'RE KIND OF WORKING THROUGH THE, AND JUST STEP UP THE MIC SO WE CAN HEAR YOU.

AS WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THE LAND PLANNING PIECE OF THIS, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE TRYING TO BALANCE WAS OUR ENTRY COMING IN WITH A, UH, MEDIAN OPENING AND TRYING TO HAVE A NICE VIEW TO THE SEATING AREA AND THE, UH, THE LIGHTING.

SO WHAT WE COULD DO, AND WHAT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY WAS THAT AREA KIND OF CONDENSE DOWN TO PROVIDE MORE PARKING ON THE NORTH.

BUT I THINK ULTIMATELY THE WAY WE PREFER THIS IS THE BALANCE BETWEEN HOW MANY STALLS, THE HALF PERCENT VERSUS, UH, OR EXCUSE ME, 0.5 VERSUS 0.75.

WE COULD REDUCE SOME OF THAT COMMON AREA IN THE MIDDLE AND DO MORE HEAD IN PARKING, YOU KNOW, ON THE, ON THE SOUTH AND NORTH.

BUT IT'S AT A, THE EXPENSE OF THE OPEN SPACE.

SO I THINK WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS GET A BALANCE BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, AS YOU'RE COMING IN, YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO LOOK AT INSTEAD OF CONSOLIDATING THAT DOWN.

UM, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ULTIMATELY TRYING TO GET TO, IS THAT BALANCE.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE ACHIEVED IT, BUT THAT'S, THAT WAS ULTIMATELY OUR GOAL.

WHY NOT SACRIFICE A UNIT INSTEAD OF OPEN SPACE? I MEAN, OR TWO.

I MEAN, IT ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, RIGHT.

THAT'S, THAT'S ANOTHER OPTION FOR YOU IS TO SAY, UH, OKAY, I'M GONNA REDUCE THE DENSITY A LITTLE BIT FURTHER JUST TO GET, YOU KNOW, MORE PARKING AND NOT LOSE AND REDUCE THE OPEN SPACE.

'CAUSE I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TOO.

WHEN I LOOK AT IT, I MEAN, I KNOW THE MUSE IS AND COUNTS AS OPEN SPACE, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT NEEDS SOMETHING TO KIND OF BREAK IT UP.

AND PARTICULARLY ON THAT BACK ROW ON THE EAST SIDE END, YOU KNOW, THERE IS, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY SORT OF OPEN SPACE.

I DON'T SEE IT, UM, OTHER THAN THE MUSE ITSELF.

SO THERE'S NO BIGGER SEATING, PUBLIC AREA, OPEN AREA.

THE, THE CHALLENGE WITH THIS SITE IS YOU GOT THAT FRONTAGE WITH THE EASEMENTS.

I MEAN, WE CAN LOOK, YEAH, I UNDERSTAND.

I MEAN,

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SO WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PROVIDING 27%, WHICH IS ATYPICAL FOR A, A TOWN HOME DEVELOPMENT.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO, TO MAXIMIZE WHERE WE CAN JUST DUE TO THE CONSTRAINTS OF THE PROJECT.

AND SO WE HAD TWO ADDITIONAL UNITS, BUT WE REMOVED THOSE TO PROVIDE MORE PARKING, MORE OF A SEATING AREA IN THE, IN THE CENTER OF THE PROJECT.

SO.

AND WHAT'S YOUR EXPERIENCE, UH, MAYBE WITH THE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS, UM, IN TERMS OF PARK, YOU KNOW, THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES PER UNIT, ARE THEY ACTUALLY, GENERALLY YOU HAVE TWO VEHICLES PER UNIT, AND ARE THEY PUTTING 'EM IN THE GARAGE? ARE THEY USING PART OF THE GARAGE FOR STORAGE RATHER THAN PARKING? AND DO YOU HAVE THAT PROBLEM WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE UNIT OWNERS ARE NOT UTILIZING THEIR GARAGE SPACE AND TAKING UP SOME OF THE VISITOR SPACE? YEAH, I'D SAY NOT TYPICALLY IN A DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS.

UM, JUST GIVEN A LOT OF THE, UH, BUYERS BUYING HERE AREN'T COMING FROM A HOUSE FULL OF, YOU KNOW, FURNITURE AND A DOWNSIZE OR ANYTHING FOR EXTRA STORAGE.

UM, TYPICALLY WHAT WE'VE SEEN IS A LOT OF, UM, SINGLE OR DUAL INCOME, YOU KNOW, KID TYPE FAMILIES IN, IN THESE DEVELOPMENTS.

SO KIND OF LESS STUFF.

SO WHAT WE'VE SEEN IS, UH, THE VAST MAJORITY DO UTILIZE THE, UH, GARAGE FOR PARKING, AND THEN THE, THE ADDITIONAL STALLS THAT ARE, OR, UH, PARKING SPACES ARE REALLY JUST FOR GUESTS.

SO, YEAH.

SO FOR ME, IT JUST, I, I WOULD THINK IT'D BE A MARKET MARKETING ISSUE FOR YOU TRYING TO SELL THE PRODUCT IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, YOUR, YOUR CUSTOMERS, YOUR BUYERS, WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THEIR VISITORS, YOU KNOW, CAN GET TO THEIR HOUSE SURE.

EASILY.

UM, AND THEY DON'T WANNA MAKE 'EM WALK A LONG WAY.

UM, LIKE, OKAY.

SO IT, IT'S KINDA LIKE HAVING A RETAIL STORE.

YOU DON'T WANT TO MAKE THEM WALK MORE THAN A FEW HUN A HUNDRED FEET OR WHATEVER.

UM, SO THAT'S WHY I'M CURIOUS, THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING.

SURE.

TO ME, TO ME IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S A LITTLE, UM, INCONVENIENT PERHAPS TO SOME OF THE UNITS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT, UH, WE'LL, WE'LL CALL YOU BACK IF WE HAVE ANY, ANY ANYTHING ELSE AFTER THE PUBLIC COMMENTS, SO, OKAY.

APPRECIATE IT.

UH, SO THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD, UH, TO SPEAK IN EITHER FAVOR OR OPPOSITION TO THE REQUEST, UM, NOW'S YOUR TIME AND YOU'LL EACH HAVE THREE MINUTES EACH TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION.

CHAIRMAN, UH, SCOTT CHER.

OH, SORRY.

GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS SCOTT BRATCHER.

I'M AT 35 0 5 DEERWOOD COURT.

I'M ACTUALLY THE HOA PRESIDENT DIRECTLY BEHIND THIS, UM, COMMUNITY THAT'S GOING IN.

UM, SOME OF MY CONCERNS I KIND OF GOT ADDRESSED TONIGHT BEFORE, WHICH WE'RE MAINTAINING OUR SCREENING WALL BACK THERE.

'CAUSE RIGHT NOW THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S ON THE, UH, EAST SIDE, THE, UM, UH, OFFICE BUILDINGS, UM, THEY DO A TERRIBLE JOB ON MAINTAINING.

AND WHAT THEY DO IS THEY JUST BLOW ALL THEIR TRASH AND EVERYTHING BACK TO US.

SO VISITING WITH THEM, SINCE THEY ARE MORE OF AN HOA, UM, THEY'VE ASSURED ME THAT THEY'RE GONNA TAKE CARE OF THAT.

UM, AS FAR AS THE COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS, IT'S A CODE VIOLATION THAT I DEAL WITH QUITE OFTEN, UM, WITH THE CITY.

UM, I ALSO VISITED WITH THEM, UH, ABOUT THE PARKING ISSUE THAT YOU BROUGHT UP.

THAT LOOKED A LITTLE LIGHT TO ME.

UM, AND I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE SETBACK.

UM, BUT THE WINDOWS THAT THEY SHOWED ME ON THE, THE, THE PLAT FOR THAT NORTHWEST ONE, UM, LOOKED LIKE THEY WERE VERY HIGH.

SO IT'S NOT LIKE SOMEBODY'S GONNA BE POK UM, POKING INTO THE, UM, UM, WINDOWS LOOKING OVER THE WALL.

UM, BUT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE LANDSCAPE AND THEY SAID THEY WOULD WORK WITH ME TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NOTHING, UH, DETRIMENTAL TO OUR SCREENING WALL.

UM, WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY TO MAINTAIN OUR WALL ON THE TELECOM SIDE, AND I JUST DON'T WANT TO KEEP SPENDING MONEY THAT I DON'T HAVE TO FOR SOMEBODY COMING IN.

SO, UM, AND I'M IN FAVOR OF THEM TAKING OVER THE COLLIN COUNTY BECAUSE THAT'S ALSO BEEN AN EYESORE, UM, OVER THE YEARS OF HAVING IT MOWED.

THE CITY ACTUALLY JUST MOWS IT VERSUS, UM, UM, GETTING COLLIN COUNTY OUT HERE.

'CAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING WITH IT.

SO I TOLD THEM IT'S GONNA BE A MAINTENANCE ISSUE FOR THEM.

UM, THEY SAID THEY MAY JUST MOW IT.

UM, BUT I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO END UP DOING.

IF THEY CAN GET IT DEEDED TO THEM, IT WOULD BE A NICE GREEN OPEN AREA TO PLAY FOOTBALL OR BASEBALL OR WHATEVER, UH, OR PARKING.

UM, BUT, UM, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL I HAD.

FOR THE MOST PART.

I'M IN FAVOR WITH IT.

BUT, UM, THERE'S PROBABLY A FEW TWEAKS IN THERE, BUT I THINK, UM, ON MY SIDE, I THINK WE CAN WORK WITH THEM HAND IN HAND.

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER COURT.

ANYONE ELSE? WHETHER YOU SIGNED A CARD OR NOT OKAY.

WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO COME BACK FORWARD AND MAYBE ADDRESS ANY OF THOSE COMMENTS OR JUST, UH, ANY FINAL REMARKS BEFORE WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? I DO WANNA APPRECIATE SCOTT FOR, UH, COMING OUT.

IT WAS, UH, GOOD TO TALK TO HIM AND WE WILL COORDINATE WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER THE NORTH.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS, BASED ON YOUR GUYS' FEEDBACK, UM, WE'RE GONNA, I'LL LOOK TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO FROM A SITE PLAN'S PERS PERSPECTIVE TO CREATE SOME MORE SPACE BETWEEN THE UNITS ON THE, THE NORTH TO PROVIDE SOME PARKING.

SO BEFORE WE GO TO COUNCIL, WE'LL LOOK TO SEE HOW WE CAN BETTER DISTRIBUTE PARKING BY MOVING SOME OF THE, THE LEGOS AROUND, SO TO SPEAK, AND, UH, TRY TO MAXIMIZE THE PARKING.

AND THEN THERE WAS ONE COMMENT REGARDING THE DRAINAGE.

SO ONE OF THE, WE, WE WORKED WITH THE CITY AND, AND THE SITE WAS PREVIOUSLY, UM, WAY BACK ZONE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, WHICH ACTUALLY PLAYED TO THE BENEFIT OF THE PROPERTY AS FAR AS HARDCOVER WAS ASSUMED.

SO WE'RE ACTUALLY REDUCING BASED ON WHAT THE PREVIOUS LAND USE WAS INTENDED TO BE.

AND SO THERE'S A Y INLET THAT'S ALREADY LOCATED AT THE PROPERTY FOR IT.

WHAT WE DO HAVE TO DO, 'CAUSE CITY STANDARDS HAVE CHANGED SINCE THEN IS, UM, DO A, A WATER QUALITY SEPARATOR.

SO BEFORE WE DISCHARGE OR TIE INTO THE CITY SYSTEM, IT'LL HAVE TO REMOVE ALL THE POLLUTANTS PRIOR IF YOU HAVE ANY.

UH, NO OTHER COMMENTS.

I'D MAKE A MOTION WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

COMMISSIONER BEACH.

SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

UM, SO LOOK, I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, OVERALL THIS IS, UM, UH, A GOOD DEVELOPMENT.

I, I DO THINK THAT I, YOU KNOW, IT'D BE NICE TO ADDRESS THAT PARKING TO ME.

UM, I MEAN, I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO WITH THE, UH, SEATING AREA, AND THAT'S KINDA YOUR ENTRY AS YOU DRIVE IN, AND THAT'S WHAT THE FIRST THING YOU SEE.

YOU'RE NOT JUST LOOKING AT A BUILDINGS, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, IF, IF IT MEANS MAYBE LOSING A UNIT OR TWO TO TRY TO CREATE SOME MORE PARKING MORE IN THE MIDDLE INTERIOR PART, I THINK WOULD, COULD BE BENEFICIAL.

UM, AND A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, UH, THE ACCESS POINTS, YOU KNOW, TO THE PARKING ON THE EAST.

UM, BUT I, I THINK IT, I, I COULD LIVE WITH IT.

UM, GLAD TO SEE WHAT YOU'RE DOING WITH THE RETAINING WALL.

I MEAN, YOU DO HAVE SEPARATION FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, WITH A LITTLE BIT OF THOSE SETBACKS.

UH, IN MY OPINION, THE THREE STORY VERSUS TWO STORY ON THE STANDARDS IS, IS NOT THAT BIG OF AN ISSUE WHEN WE'RE ONLY TALKING FIVE FEET, UH, IN HEIGHT GOING, UH, FROM 40 TO 45 FEET.

SO THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS.

COMMISSIONER ROBERTS.

I THINK THAT, UH, AS WE DISCUSSED IN THE WORKING SESSION, UH, I THINK THE APPLICANT HAS, UH, TAKEN STEPS TO MITIGATE SOME OF THE CONCERNS BY THE, UH, THAT WERE PRESENTED IN THE COMMENTS BY HAVING THAT, UM, PRIVACY WALL, THE SIX FOOT WALL ON THE EASTERN SIDE.

SO I FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE, UH, CONCERNS THAT WERE RAISED HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED.

DO YOU KNOW BY THE APPLICANT COMMISSIONER PURDY? I THINK IT'S A PRETTY GOOD DEVELOPMENT.

I'M JUST STRUGGLING WITH HOW THIS LINES UP WITH THE MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING WITH THAT PRICE POINT.

SO JUST WANT TO SAY THAT OUT LOUD, BECAUSE IF THAT'S THE MIDDLE MAN COMMISSIONER THOMASON, I APPRECIATE THAT COMMENT.

UM, IT IS THE MIDDLE.

UM, UNFORTUNATELY, SO, UM, I GUESS, UH, THI THIS SEVEN ACRES, THE WAY I LOOK AT THIS FROM A BIGGER CITY PERSPECTIVE, WE HAVE PRECIOUS LITTLE SPOTS, UH, PRECIOUS LITTLE OPEN SPACE.

AND THIS OPEN SPACE IS NOW TURNING INTO HOUSING, WHICH IS WHAT WE NEED.

SO I'M BULLISH ON PROJECTS LIKE THIS, AND THIS WAS, UM, WITH A, A BUILDER THAT OBVIOUSLY HAS TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF EXPERIENCE, HAS PUT IN THE LEGWORK WITH THE COMMUNITY, HAS LISTENED.

UM, SO I SUPPORT THIS, THIS, UH, THIS TYPE OF PROJECT.

I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS ABOUT THE PARKING.

IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT THAT CAN BE WORKED THROUGH, BUT THESE ARE THE KIND OF PROJECTS THAT WE NEED TO FIND MORE OF FOR THE, THE MISSING MIDDLE, ALBEIT HALF A MILLION DOLLARS.

YES, I, I AGREE WITH, UH, WHAT COMMISSIONER THOMASON SAID THERE ABOUT

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FINDING PLACES IN RICHARDSON FOR MORE OF THIS TYPE DEVELOPMENT.

'CAUSE IT'S SORELY NEEDED.

AND I APPRECIATE THE, THE, UH, DEVELOPER TOO, TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION, UH, YOU KNOW, HOW IT MIGHT IMPACT THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY TO THE NORTH THERE.

AND, UH, AND, AND THAT THEY ACTUALLY CONSIDERED THAT BEFORE THEY, UH, PUT THE PLANS TOGETHER.

SO, UH, I'M IN FAVOR.

MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER TWO.

AND, AND I DO THINK THE USE IS A COMPATIBLE WITH WHAT'S GOING ON IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD PART, PARTICULARLY WITH THE TOWN HOMES THAT ARE GOING ACROSS THE STREET, THE SENIOR HOUSING TO THE SOUTH, RESIDENTIAL TO THE NORTH, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S AN INFILL DEVELOPMENT.

UM, DON'T SEE THAT THERE BEING THAT MUCH OF A MARKET FOR OFFICE OR RETAIL.

UM, AND, AND I DON'T THINK WE WANNA SEE AN EXPANSION NECESSARILY OF ANY INDUSTRIAL USE THERE.

UM, SO IN, IN MY VIEW, IT DOES SATISFY THAT NEED OF MORE HOUSING, UH, THAT WE NEED THAT IS AT A, A DIFFERENT PRICE POINT, YOU KNOW, THAN A SINGLE FAMILY MIGHT BE.

UM, SO AGAIN, THAT'S WHY I SUPPORT IT.

MR. BEACH.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE THAT WE, UH, RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ZONING FILE 25 DASH ZERO SIX AS PRESENTED.

HAVE A MOTION, UH, COMMISSIONER KIRK, I SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE, UH, ZONING FILE 25 DASH OH SIX AS PRESENTED.

UM, ALL THOSE IN RECOMMEND APPROVAL IF I SAID THAT SOMETIMES I COMMEND APPROVAL.

YEAH, I WANNA MAKE SURE I SAID THAT.

UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, UH, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND PASS UNANIMOUSLY.

[2. Zoning File 25-07 Special Permit – Zipline Drones: Consider and act on a request for approval of a Special Permit for a Drone Operations and Maintenance Center on a 4.96-acre lot developed with a 86,624 square foot building currently zoned PD Planned Development Collins/Arapaho TOD & Innovation District (Employment Sub-District), located at 1155 Kas Drive, on the north side of Kas Drive, on the east side of N. Glenville Drive. Owner: Colby Schraegle, Pool 2 Industrial TX LLC. Staff: Derica Peters]

THIS IS ZONING FILE 25 0 7 SPECIAL PERMIT FOR ZIPLINE DRONES.

UH, UNFORTUNATELY I HAVE A, UH, A CONFLICT ON THIS, UH, ON THIS CASE.

UH, SO, UH, WE CURRENTLY DO NOT HAVE A VICE CHAIRMAN, UH, OFFICIALLY APPOINTED, UH, BY THE CITY COUNCIL.

UH, SO THEREFORE, SINCE IN MY ABSENCE, THE COMMISSION NEEDS TO, UH, APPOINT A TEMPORARY, UM, VICE CHAIRMAN, UH, JUST FOR THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE.

UM, AND SO I WILL, UH, UH, THE FLOOR IS OPEN FOR NOMINATIONS, COMMISSIONER BEACH.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I, I MOVE THAT WE, UH, APPOINT NATE ROBERTS, UH, TEMPORARY CHAIRMAN FOR THIS PARTICULAR CASE.

GREAT, THANK YOU.

DID I GET THAT RIGHT? COOL.

PARDON? UM, COMMISSIONER THOMASON.

VICE CHAIRMAN.

YEAH, I'D SAY VICE CHAIRMAN, BUT VICE CHAIRMAN.

SECOND.

WE HAVE A SECOND, UM, TO APPOINT, UH, COMMISSIONER ROBERTS, THE TEMPORARY VICE CHAIRMAN FOR AGENDA ITEM TWO FOR TONIGHT'S MEETING.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

UH, I WILL HAND THE GAVEL OVER TO YOU, MR. I'LL TAKE THE GAVEL.

ALRIGHT, I'M GOING TO PACK UP MY STUFF AND, UH, I'M GONNA LEAVE IT WITH YOU AND, UM, AND, UH, COMMISSIONER POYNTER IN MY ABSENCE.

NOW WE'RE BACK TO SEVEN, SO EVERYBODY WILL BE, UH, VOTING ON THIS MATTER.

ALL RIGHT, SO THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

I WOULD LIKE, UH, TO INVITE MS. PETERS TO GO AHEAD AND PRESENT ZONING FILE 25 0 7.

WE TYPICALLY ADDRESS COMMERCIAL DELIVERY.

ALL RIGHT, SO THIS IS A ZONING FILE TO REQUEST A SPECIAL PERMIT FOR A DRONE OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE CENTER BY ZIPLINE.

TO GIVE YOU A QUICK REFRESHER ABOUT DRONE TYPES, UH, IN GENERAL, THERE ARE THREE TYPES, RECREATIONAL, COMMERCIAL, AND COMMERCIAL DELIVERY.

UH, THE FAA OVERSEES THE COMMERCIAL GENER DELIVERY, DRONE OPERATIONS, UH, AND AS IT RELATES TO THEIR OPERATIONS IN AIRSPACE AND THE AIRCRAFT ITSELF,

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THERE IS SOME REG REGULATORY FRAMEWORK THAT THE LOCAL AUTHORITY FALLS WITHIN.

UH, STARTING WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THE FAA, UH, WHO PRIMARILY OVERSEES ALL OF THE OPERATIONS.

AS I MENTIONED, THERE ARE ONLY SIX AUTHORIZED DRONE DELIVERY OPERATORS THAT HAVE OBTAINED THE REQUIRED PERMITS THROUGH FAA IN THE US.

THE STATE OF TEXAS, UM, IN ADDITION, HAS ADOPTED A RULE THAT IT IS ILLEGAL TO CAPTURE IMAGES OF PROPERTY OR AN INDIVIDUAL WITH THE INTENT TO CONDUCT SURVEILLANCE.

AND THEN FOR THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT IS, UH, EVEN MORE SO LIMITED IN OUR AUTHORITY.

CITIES CAN ONLY REGULATE THE GROUND BASE OPERATIONS RELATED TO THE DRONE OPERATIONS.

UM, THEY CANNOT REGULATE SPECIFICS OF THE AIRCRAFT LIKE THE POWER SOURCE, BUT WE CAN REGULATE TAKEOFF AND LANDING TIMES THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION.

AND THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED A PD AMENDMENT TO THE COLLINS ARAPAHO PLAN DEVELOPMENT PD IN THE EMPLOYMENT SUBDISTRICT SPECIFICALLY TO, UH, TO ADD A DEFINITION OF A DRONE AND A DRONE OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE CENTER.

THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED A RULE THAT A-D-O-M-C WOULD BE ALLOWED BY SPECIAL PERMIT, AND ALL OF THESE CENTERS MUST BE AT MINIMUM, 300 FEET AWAY FROM SINGLE FAMILY AND MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONING.

ALL ACTIVITIES FOR MAINTENANCE SHALL OCCUR WITHIN THE BUILDING, AND NO EQUIPMENT SHALL EXCEED, UH, SHALL, UH, BE ABOVE 10 FEET ABOVE THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE.

IN HEIGHT.

THERE ARE THREE TYPE OF DRONE FACILITIES, THE OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE CENTER, THE DELIVERY CENTER ITSELF, AND THEN THE DELIVERY ENDPOINT, WHICH IS YOUR TYPICAL, UM, YOUR RESIDENCE.

SO AS IT COMES TO, UH, CONSIDERING THE LAND-BASED, UM, THE LAND USE CONSIDERATIONS, WE ARE TAKING A LOOK AT THE OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE CENTER IN THIS, UH, PROPOSAL.

SO ZIPLINE HAS PROPOSED A CENTER AT 1155 CAST DRIVE.

THE PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY COMMERCIAL AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENTS.

THE PROPERTY IS FIVE ACRES AND IS DEVELOPED WITH AN 86,000 SQUARE FOOT COMMERCIAL BUILDING.

HERE ARE SOME SITE PHOTOS.

THIS IS THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING, AND HERE IS THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING ON THE OTHER FRONTAGE AS SEEN FROM GLENVILLE DRIVE.

THIS IS THE PROPOSED EQUIPMENT THAT, UH, THE, UH, APPLICANT HAS PROPOSED TO BE LOCATED AT THIS SITE.

SO THE, UH, CENTER WILL REQUIRE A DOCKING STATION THAT IS THIS VERTICAL POLE SHOWN HERE, AND A KIOSK.

THE POLE ITSELF IS 25 FEET TALL.

THE BUILDING IS 35 FEET TALL, SO THE POLE WILL BE SHORTER THAN THE BUILDING.

AS PART OF A STANDING REQUIREMENT IN THIS PD IS ALL GROUND MOUNTED EQUIPMENT SHOULD BE SCREENED AND LOCATED IN THE REAR OR TO THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING.

AND THAT IS, UH, MET WITH THIS PROPOSAL.

HERE'S WHERE THEY'RE PROPOSING IT AS SEEN, UH, AT A TOP DOWN VIEW ON THE SITE PLAN.

THIS PROPERTY HAS TWO FRONTAGES ON CAST DRIVE AND GLENVILLE DRIVE.

SO THE AREA THEY'VE SELECTED IS WHAT IS CONSIDERED THE UTILITY YARD IN THE REAR OF THE BUILDING.

SO ZIP LINE SEEKING APPROVAL OF THIS SPECIAL PERMIT FOR DRONE AND OPERATIONS CENTER, WHERE THEY WILL, UH, ESTABLISH A REGIONAL HEADQUARTERS FOR BUSINESS OPERATIONS TO BE A HUB FOR EMPLOYEES TO PERFORM MAINTENANCE ON DRONES HERE, UH, PERFORM BUSINESS OPERATIONS AND CUSTOMER SUPPORT ACTIVITIES.

SO THIS WILL NOT BE A DELIVERY HUB.

THIS WILL BE WHERE DRONES COME FOR MAINTENANCE.

THESE ARE THE DRONES THAT ZIPLINE USES IN THEIR OPERATIONS.

THIS, UH, DRONE IS EIGHT FEET WIDE AND IT CARRIES A MAXIMUM EIGHT FEET DELIVERY PAYLOAD.

IT FLIES AT 70 MILES PER HOUR, AND AT A SERVICE RADIUS OF 10 MILES, THE NOISE IS MEASURED AT 53 TO 64 DECIBELS WHEN IT'S DEPARTING OR RETURNING TO THAT DOCK.

AND THAT LEVEL OF, UM, NOISE, THAT RANGE OF DECIBELS IS TYPICALLY COMPARABLE TO A QUIET OFFICE ENVIRONMENT OR AN INDOOR CONVERSATION.

AS I MENTIONED, ONE OF THE SUPPLEMENTAL REGULATIONS OF THE DRONE, OF THE DRONE COMMERCIAL, OF THE DRONE OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE CENTERS, THAT THEY BE LOCATED NO CLOSER THAN 300 FEET FROM RESIDENTIAL.

AND IN THIS CASE, THE PROPERTY IS 1700 FEET FROM THE CLOSEST RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND AS OF THIS DATE, NO PUBLIC COMMENTS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED IN RESPONSE TO THIS PUBLIC NOTICE.

PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE, SHOULD THE CPC APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATION AS PRESENTED, THIS

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SPECIAL PERMIT WOULD BE LIMITED TO ZIPLINE AS THE OPERATOR.

IT WOULD BE LIMITED TO THE AREA SHOWN ON THE CONCEPT PLAN AS WELL.

AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION, AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE WITH THE PRESENTATION AS WELL.

UM, AT THIS TIME FOR THE COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I, UH, I HAVE A QUESTION.

SO THE WAY YOU DESCRIBED THAT THERE WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, BAS THERE ARE THREE BASIC TYPES OF, UH, I GUESS DRONE OPERATIONS, WHETHER IT'S DELIVERY OR REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE.

AND CLEARLY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, UH, UM, OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE.

I DIDN'T HEAR WHAT THE TIMES OF OPERATION ARE THOUGH SINCE WE, SINCE, AS IT'S DESCRIBED, THERE WILL BE DRONES FLYING IN TO BE REPAIRED OR FOR MAINTENANCE OR WHATEVER.

UM, DO YOU HAVE THAT? WHAT WE'VE BEEN TOLD IS THAT THEY'LL BE OPERATING DURING NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS, BUT THE SPECIFICS OF WHAT THAT IS, I THINK WE CAN GET FROM THE APPLICANT TONIGHT IF WE ASK THEM.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MS. PETERS.

UM, IF THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS.

ALRIGHT, SO, UM, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

I'D LIKE TO INVITE THE APPLICANT TO COME FORWARD.

STATE YOUR NAME AND, UH, ADDRESS.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME IS STEPHANIE COOK, UH, AND I WORK FOR ZIPLINE.

WE ARE AT 3 3 3.

CORY WAY SOUTH SAN FRANCISCO.

9 4 0 8 OH, CALIFORNIA.

AWESOME.

UM, THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS FOR YOUR TIME.

I'M EXCITED TO PRESENT A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THE TECHNOLOGY.

UM, I THINK Y'ALL WERE ABLE TO LEARN A LITTLE BIT FROM CONOR WILKINSON, ONE OF MY COWORKERS DURING A WORK SESSION RECENTLY.

UM, BUT HOPING TO TOUCH ON SOME MORE SPECIFICS HERE, UM, ABOUT OUR DOMC AND KIND OF WHAT OUR, UM, VISION IS FOR RICHARDSON.

SO STARTING WITH A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ZIPLINE, OUR BACKGROUND.

SO WE ARE THE WORLD'S LARGEST DRONE DELIVERY SERVICE.

UH, TO DATE, WE HAVE DONE MORE THAN 1.4 MILLION COMMERCIAL DELIVERIES GLOBALLY.

UM, WE, A STATISTIC THAT WE LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT IS THAT SOMEWHERE AROUND THE WORLD, EVERY DAY SOMEBODY IS GETTING A DELIVERY ONCE A MINUTE.

UM, WE, OUR BACKGROUND IS IN SAVING LIVES.

SO WE STARTED DOING DELIVERIES IN 2016 IN RWANDA.

AT THAT TIME, WE WERE SOLVING A REALLY TOUGH LOGISTICAL USE CASE WHERE WE FOUND THAT, UH, WOMEN WERE LOSING THEIR LIVES EVERY DAY DUE TO LACK OF ACCESS TO BLOOD.

SO WE WENT IN TO SOLVE THAT CHALLENGE AND WE HAD A TREMENDOUS IMPACT.

UM, A RECENT STUDY BY THE WHARTON ACTUALLY SHOWED THAT WE WERE ABLE TO REDUCE WOMEN'S IN HOSPITAL MATERNITY DEATH RATES BY MORE THAN 50%.

UM, SO THAT'S REALLY EXCITING.

WE KIND OF TOOK THAT SUCCESS AND, UM, EXPANDED BOTH IN VOLUME AND GEOGRAPHICALLY.

UH, WE NOW OPERATE IN ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS, WHICH IS EXCITING.

THERE'S A FEW THAT ARE ANNOUNCED.

UM, AND HIGHLIGHTED HERE IS, IS RICHARDSON, UH, WHERE WE'RE GONNA BE HAVING OUR DOM MC.

UM, SO ONE THING I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT IS KIND OF SOME OF THE OPERATIONS THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING HERE IN THE US TO DATE.

UM, SO WE'VE ACTUALLY BEEN DELIVERING IN EWY, ARKANSAS WITH ONE OF OUR MAIN PARTNERS, WALMART, SINCE 2021.

ONE THING I'LL NOTE IS THAT, THAT'S VERY UNIQUE ABOUT ARKANSAS IS WE'VE BEEN OPERATING WITH OUR PLATFORM ONE TECHNOLOGY THERE.

UM, AND WE, WE RECENTLY ARE NOW OPERATING ALSO WITH OUR PLATFORM TWO TECHNOLOGY.

UM, THIS IS A SHORT EXCERPT.

IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR GROWTH FROM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GROWTH.

IT'S A OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO SEE THAT THERE'S A DIFFERENT WAY OF GETTING GROCERIES OR NEEDS TO YOUR RESIDENTS, AND IT'S GONNA GROW YOUR, UH, IT'S GONNA GROW YOUR CITY TO BE MORE INNOVATIVE.

DON'T MISS THIS OPPORTUNITY.

THAT WAS JUST A BRIEF INTERVIEW FROM MIA, NATHAN C UM, SO HE'S BEEN A REALLY GREAT PARTNER THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH SINCE 2021.

UM, AND IT'S JUST BEEN AMAZING TO KIND OF SEE THE JOY OF THE RESIDENTS RECEIVING DELIVERIES THERE.

UM, AND JUST KIND OF SOME OF THE BENEFITS THAT, AND NATHAN CCS TO OUR SERVICE.

UM, THIS NEXT SLIDE HERE, WHAT I WANTED TO SHOW IS KIND OF THE SCALE OF OUR OPERATIONS ACROSS DFW.

UM, SO WE ARE COMING HERE, WE'VE GOT A NUMBER OF PARTNERS.

I'VE MENTIONED WALMART AS ONE OF OUR, OUR KEY PARTNERS.

UM, SO ALTHOUGH THE JOYS AREN'T KIND OF REPRESENTATIVE OF EXACT LOCATIONS, UM, YOU'LL SEE THAT WE ARE KIND OF ALL OVER THE METRO AND WE ARE REALLY EXCITED TO HAVE OVER 20 SITES UNDER DEVELOPMENT.

AND WE'VE GOT 10 APPROVED PERMITS AND FIVE SITES UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

UM, WE'VE ACTUALLY GOT A, A SITE THAT WE ARE, UM, BUSY LAUNCHING KIND OF AT THIS TIME.

WE'VE STARTED DOING DELIVERIES TO CUSTOMERS, UM, IN MESQUITE.

SO ALSO, UM, IF ANYBODY WANTS TO AT SOME POINT COME OUT AND SEE OUR OPERATIONS, UH, WE'D LOVE TO HAVE YOU.

UM, ONE THING I'LL NOTE IS THAT WE ARE REALLY EXCITED THAT RICHARDSON IS ON THIS MAP, NOT AS A LOCATION WHERE WE'LL BE DOING DELIVERIES FROM, BUT AS REALLY OUR REGIONAL HEADQUARTERS.

UM, SO I'LL SPEAK TO THAT KIND OF A LITTLE BIT MORE IN A SECOND, WHAT EXACTLY WE'RE GONNA BE DOING AT THE HUB.

UM, BUT BEFORE THAT KIND OF WHY DRONE DELIVERY.

UM, SO A STATISTIC, BLESS YOU, A STATISTIC THIS YEAR IS THAT, UH, THERE WILL BE OVER 5 BILLION INSTANT DELIVERIES FROM ON-DEMAND

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APPS.

AND THAT'S IN THE US ALONE.

AND ALL OF THOSE DELIVERIES RELY ON, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S HUNDREDS OF YEARS OLD.

UH, WE JUST DON'T THINK IT MAKES SENSE TO HAVE PRIVATE TAXIS FOR OUR ROTIS THREE CHICKENS.

UM, SO THAT'S WHY WE INVENTED PLATFORM TWO.

AND IT'S A FULLY AUTONOMOUS SYSTEM THAT ESSENTIALLY IS A LOGISTICS SYSTEM THAT ALLOWS PACKAGES TO GET FROM A TO B IN UNDER 30 MINUTES.

UM, SO IT'S REALLY FAST, IT'S, IT'S QUIET.

UM, WE TAKE CARS OFF THE ROAD, UM, AND REALLY IMPROVE TRAFFIC.

SO THAT'S EXCITING.

SO A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE PLATFORM IN DETAIL, DE THANK YOU FOR PRESENTING ON THAT.

UM, SO THE, THE TECHNOLOGY IS FULLY AUTONOMOUS AND, UM, IT KINDA HAS THIS TWO PART ARCHITECTURE WHERE THAT THE ZIP STAYS HIGHER UP IN THE SKY AND THEN THE JOY COMES DOWN TO MAKE THAT DELIVERY.

UM, ON A TETHER, UM, WE CAN DELIVER UP TO EIGHT POUNDS.

UM, OUR SERVICE READERS IS UP TO 10 MILES FROM EACH OF OUR PARTNER SITES.

UM, AND THEN WE, THE WINGSPAN IS ABOUT EIGHT FEET.

SO BEFORE I GO ON, I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS KIND OF THREE OF THE MAIN CONCERNS THAT COME UP WHEN WE TALK ABOUT OUR TECHNOLOGY AND THOSE RELATE TO SOUND SAFETY AND PRIVACY.

SO STARTING WITH SOUND, UM, WE HAVE ENGINEERED FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, THE CONCEPTION OF OUR SYSTEM IN MIND THAT WE WANTED TO BE A SYSTEM THAT COULD KIND OF BLEND INTO THE BACKGROUND OF EVERYDAY LIVES.

WE UNDERSTAND HOW CRITICAL THAT IS TO OUR EXPANSION AND OUR SUCCESS.

UM, SO THAT'S WHY WE DESIGNED THE SYSTEM IN THAT TWO-PART WAY.

SO THE LARGER ZIP STAYS AT 300 FEET UP IN THE SKY, AND THEN THAT SMALLER JOY COMES DOWN TO MAKE THE DELIVERY.

UM, SECONDLY, WE HAVE ALSO ENGINEERED THE PROPELLERS IN SUCH A WAY THAT NOT ONLY THE INTENSITY OF THE SOUND, BUT ALSO THE SOUND PROFILE IS, UH, MORE LIKE A FAN AND LESS LIKE SOMETHING.

SO IT'S VERY KIND OF, IT'S, IT'S A SOUND THAT IS A LOT, UH, MORE APPEASING TO LISTEN TO.

UM, AND THEN FINALLY THE FLIGHT PATTERNS ARE RANDOMIZED, SO WE'RE NOT REPEATEDLY KIND OF EXPOSING THE SAME NEIGHBORHOODS, ALL THAT TO SAY.

SO I, I NEED TO PAUSE YOU FOR A SECOND.

YEP.

UM, YOU MAY HAVE HEARD AT THE BEGINNING, UH, APPLICANTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES.

15.

15 MINUTES, RIGHT? TH OH, I THOUGHT IT WAS THREE MINUTES.

UM, SO ALL THAT TO SAY WHETHER WE'RE DELIVERING AT, UH, A DELIVERY POINT OR WHETHER WE ARE DOCKING, UM, OUR SOUND IS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 53 TO 60 DECIBELS, WHICH PLACES US, UH, REALLY, IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE SOUND OF A CAR PASSING AT ABOUT 300 FEET.

UM, AND THEN TOUCHING ON SAFETY.

SO TO DATE, WE'VE FLOWN OVER A HUNDRED MILLION MILES.

UM, AND THAT IS REALLY THANKS TO A, A STRONG ROOTED CORE IN SAFETY.

SO WE DESIGN THE SYSTEM WITH CRITICAL REDUNDANCIES.

UH, FOR EXAMPLE, THE PROPELLERS ARE, WE HAVE BACKUP SYSTEMS ON ALL OF OUR CRITICAL, UM, SYSTEMS. SO THERE HAVE ONE PROPELLER WHERE TO GO OUT.

THERE'S ANOTHER ONE THAT KINDA REPLACE IT.

UM, IN ADDITION, WE TEST ALL OVER IN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT RANCHES, UM, AND KIND OF EXTREME CONDITIONS.

SO WE HAVE ONE LOCATION IN WYOMING RIGHT NOW WHERE WE'RE TESTING IN SOME REALLY COLD CONDITIONS.

UM, AND THAT'S TO PREPARE US TO COME TO DFW AND HANDLE THE WEATHER OUT HERE.

UM, FINALLY AS MENTIONED, WE, UH, ALTHOUGH THE SYSTEM IS FULLY AUTONOMOUS, WE ARE, UH, MONITORED 24 7 BY REMOTE OPERATORS.

UM, AND THEN WE DO ABOUT 500 PLUS SAFETY, UH, PRE-FLIGHT CHECKS BEFORE ANY ZIP TAKES OFF.

UM, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE ONBOARD OUR FLIGHT IQ, WHICH IS KIND OF OUR PROPRIETARY SYSTEM, UH, TECHNOLOGY THAT I'LL TALK THROUGH HERE IN A SECOND.

UM, SO FLIGHT IQ IS OUR AUTONOMY AND PERCEPTION SUITE THAT ALLOWS US TO DELIVER, UM, AND OPERATE SAFELY.

UM, NOW AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED THE SYSTEM, WE REALLY WANT IT TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD FEEL COMFORTABLE HAVING DELIVERED ON IN OUR OWN BACKYARDS.

SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE PRIVACY MEASURES SUCH AS, UM, WE APPLY INDUSTRY STANDARD TOOLS TO BLOW UP PEOPLE'S FACES, UM, IN VISUAL DATA WE CAN'T ZOOM OR POINT IN A SPECIFIC DIRECTION.

UM, AND THEN WE DON'T IDENTIFY INDIVIDUALS OR LICENSE PLATES.

SO AT THE MOST THEY CAN BE TWO ZIPS AT ONE TIME.

SO TOUCHING ON SOME OF THE DETAILS AND I KNOW THERE WAS SOME QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP EARLIER, SO I'LL DEFINITELY TRY MY BEST TO ADDRESS THOSE HERE.

UM, SO WE ARE LOCATED AT 1155 CS DRIVE, UM, NOT THE ENTIRE BUILDING.

WE HAVE ONE SUITE OF IT, UM, JUST TO HIGHLIGHT.

UM, AND IN TERMS OF THE OPERATIONS HAPPENING INSIDE THE DOMC, UM, AS ERICA MENTIONED, OBVIOUSLY IT IS THE ARGON.

THERE'S GONNA BE SOME MAINTENANCE OF JONES, BUT WE ALSO ARE GONNA BE RECEIVING, UM, AND SHIPPING KIND OF A LOT OF ITEMS FROM THERE.

UM, WE ALSO ARE GONNA BE USING A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF SPACE FOR IT AS A SHOWROOM AND A CLASSROOM.

WE DO A LOT OF STEM ENGAGEMENT AND SO WE'RE EXCITED TO KIND OF HAVE A SPACE WHERE WE CAN SHOWCASE WHAT WE DO.

UH, IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE A SPACE DEDICATED TO OUR CUSTOMER SUPPORT AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

AND THEN FINALLY WE ALSO HAVE A SECTION DEDICATED TO KIND OF NEW DEPLOYMENTS.

SO THAT'S THE TEAM THAT I WORK ON, ON CONSTRUCTION AND UM, AND UH, PRE-CONSTRUCTION.

SO REALLY EXCITED FOR THAT.

UM, AS I HIGHLIGHTED HERE, UM, AND DEREK ALSO DO A GREAT JOB OF SHOWING, SO THAT RED LOCATION IS THE ONE, UH, DOCKING STATION THAT WE ARE PROPOSING INSTALLING.

UM, AND THE RENDERING KIND OF SHOWS HOW, UH, AS HIGHLIGHTED THE HEIGHT OF IT IS LESS THAN THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING.

UH, WE KIND OF COMPARE IT TO A FANCY LIGHT POLE.

IT RECEIVES POWER DATA AND A FOUNDATION.

THE FOUNDATION IS BALLASTED, SO THE CONSTRUCTION IS REALLY PRETTY LIGHTWEIGHT.

UM, HIGHLIGHTED HERE IS THE FACT THAT THEY ARE GONNA BE TWO DOCKS.

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UM, AND YOU, I KNOW THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT KIND OF FLIGHTS AND, UM, ALWAYS ALSO HOURS OF OPERATION.

SO WE ARE NOT ACTUALLY GONNA BE DOING FLIGHTS IN THE WAY THAT YOU IMAGINE IT.

UM, ZIPS ARE ACTUALLY GONNA BE TRANSPORTED TO THE DOMC VIA GROUND TRANSPORTATION.

UM, AT THIS TIME THERE ARE NO PARTNERS THAT ARE KIND OF WITHIN THAT, UH, THE, THE RADIUS THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO FLY THEM TO THE HUB.

UM, AND SO THAT IS REALLY OUR INTENT, UH, FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE.

AND WHAT IS, WHAT THAT ESSENTIALLY MEANS IS THAT MOST OF THE MAINTENANCE IS GONNA BE HAPPENING INSIDE OF THE HUB, HOWEVER, BEFORE WE TAKE A ZIP BACK TO PUT IT AT PARTNER SITE, THERE ARE OCCASIONS WHERE YOU MIGHT WANNA TEST A DOCKING AND UN DOCKING FLIGHT.

SO REALLY WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IS A ZIP WILL BE DOCKS ON ONE OF THOSE, UH, KIND OF LOCATIONS AS YOU CAN SEE RIGHT THERE.

IT WILL UNDO FOR ONE TO TWO SECONDS AND THEN REDOC BACK UP.

SO IT REALLY WON'T BE GOING EVEN ABOVE THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING.

IT'S REALLY JUST TO CHECK THAT EVERYTHING FROM A SAFETY STANDPOINT IS IN PLACE.

THEN THE ZIP WILL BE PLACED IN ONE OF OUR SPECIAL FITTED TRUCKS AND DRIVEN BACK TO, UM, THE PARTNER SITE.

UM, AND THEN, UH, LASTLY BUT NOT LEAST, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, I DID WANNA HIGHLIGHT THAT WE HAVE DONE, UH, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT TO DATE, UH, AROUND OUR DOMC.

UM, WE ACTUALLY, CON WAS TELLING ME HAD A GREAT CONVERSATION WITH FEEDING MY STARVING CHILDREN WHO ARE LOCATED RIGHT BEHIND US.

UM, AND THEY WERE REALLY EXCITED TO HEAR ABOUT THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE IN AFRICA AND KIND OF HOW OUR VISIONS ALIGN THERE.

SO, UM, YOU MIGHT BE TRYING TO READ WHAT'S ON THE SCREEN.

IT SAYS, THANK YOU FOR COMING IN.

I LIKE THAT YOU'RE NOT JUST TRYING TO CHANGE THE WORLD, BUT ALSO DOING SOMETHING TO CHANGE THE WORLD.

UM, SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR YOU TODAY AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

UM, SO IF I UNDERSTAND HOW YOU WERE DESCRIBING BASICALLY THE OPERATIONS THERE, IS IT THAT NONE OF YOUR ZIPS, AS YOU CALL 'EM, WILL BE FLYING IN AND OUT? THEY'LL JUST BE TESTED FOR THE TETHERED, THE DOCKING AND UNDOING? EXACTLY.

SO THE, SO EXACTLY.

SO THE DOCK IS THERE SO THAT AFTER WE'VE DONE MAINTENANCE, UH, TO THE ZIPS INSIDE OF THE HUB, UM, WE CAN THEN PLACE THEM ON ONE OF THOSE DOCKS AND DO JUST AN UNDOING AND UNDOING SO WE CAN CHECK THAT EVERYTHING IS, UM, UP TO STANDARDS BEFORE WE TAKE IT BACK OUT TO UPON A SITES.

SO I HEARD YOU DESCRIBE HOW THEY'LL GET TO, YOU KNOW, THEIR SERVICE LOCATION.

YEP.

HOW DO THEY GET TO THIS LOCATION? UH, YEAH, SO, UH, WE WILL BE TRANSPORTING THEM VIA GROUND TRANSPORTATION.

OH, OKAY.

UH, YEAH, SO WE HAVE SPECIALLY DESIGNED TRUCKS THAT ARE ABLE TO CARRY THESE ZIPS.

THIS IS A SOPHOMORE QUESTION, BUT I NEED TO ASK IT.

DO YOU HAVE PROBLEMS WITH PEOPLE SHOOTING DRONES? ? GREAT QUESTION.

UM, BEING IN TEXAS, WE HAVE RECEIVED THAT QUESTION.

UM, SO I'LL SAY TO START WITH THAT, THAT REALLY HAS NOT BEEN AN ISSUE THAT WE FACE TO DATE.

UH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN DONE A HUNDRED MILLION MILES AND IT REALLY IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE FACED AN ISSUE WITH.

UM, THE SECOND THING I'LL ADD IS THAT THEY ARE AT 300 FEET IN THE SKY GOING AT ABOUT 70 MILES PER HOUR.

SO YOU GOTTA BE A PRETTY GOOD SHOT.

UM, AND THEN THE LAST THING I'LL ADD IS THAT BECAUSE WE ARE, UH, A, A ZAW FAA CERTIFIED, IT TECHNICALLY IS A FEDERAL CRIME TO SHOOT ONE COMMISSIONER QUIRK.

SO DO YOU ANTICIPATE IN THE FUTURE THAT YOU WOULD FLY THESE IN FOR MAINTENANCE? GOOD QUESTION.

UM, I THINK AT THIS TIME WE, WE REALLY DO SEE FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE THAT WE ARE GONNA BE DRIVING THEM TO THE, TO THE HUB BACK AND FORTH.

AND IS, IS THERE A DELIVERY HUB CLOSE TO IT? I THINK THERE'S A WALMART THAT'S OVER IN GARLAND.

THE CLOSEST I'VE, THE CLOSEST ONE THAT'S SEEN DRONES OPERATE OUT OF.

SO IS THAT ONE OF THEM? THAT IS NOT ONE OF OUR LOCATIONS.

THANKS.

UH, COMMISSIONER PURDY? YES.

KIND OF CONTINUING TO WHAT, UH, COMMISSIONER CLERK WAS SAYING, KIND OF ENVISIONING THE FUTURE, IF YOU GUYS WERE TO BE ACQUIRED BY YOUR STRATEGIC PARTNER, WALMART, HOW BIG COULD THIS LOCATION BECOME? OR DOES THIS STAY IN THIS FORM FACTOR? YEAH, I REALLY CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT AT THIS TIME.

I'D SAY FROM WHAT WHAT WE'RE FOCUSED ON RIGHT NOW IS BEING ABLE TO SERVE OUR CURRENT SITES THAT WE HAVE WITH WALMART, WHICH IS ABOUT THOSE 20 LOCATIONS ACROSS THE METRO.

UM, SO REALLY AT THIS TIME, OUR FOCUS IS TO BE ABLE TO, UH, BOTH RECEIVE, UM, ASSEMBLE AND THEN SHIP ITEMS FROM THIS LOCATION AND THEN DO SOME SAFETY CHECKS ON OUR DRONES.

GOTCHA.

UM, I THINK RIGHT NOW WHAT IS RESTRICTING US IS, UM, OUR CURRENT USE CASE, AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT I COULD SPEAK TO RIGHT NOW.

I ALSO WANTED TO RESPOND THAT, UM, GIVEN THE CONDITIONS THAT ARE NOTED IN THE STAFF REPORT, UM, THE SPACE THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO OCCUPY FOR THIS USE ASSOCIATED WITH THE SPECIAL PERMIT WOULD BE LIMITED TO THE LEASE SPACE AS SHOWN ON THE CONCEPT PLAN.

SO IF THEY WANTED TO EXPAND, THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BEFORE YOU AGAIN TO AMEND THE, THE SPECIAL PERMIT.

JUST TO, UH, FOLLOW UP WITH COMMISSIONER QUIRKS, UH, QUESTION, UM, THERE'S REALLY NOTHING THAT WOULD PREVENT YOU FROM FLYING DRONES IN AND OUT THOUGH IF THIS, UH, REQUEST IS APPROVED.

CORRECT?

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UM, WE, WE ARE VERY FOCUSED ON A PARTNERSHIP WITH WALMART.

WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF OTHER PARTNERS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND, UM, NONE ARE KIND OF IN THE VICINITY THAT, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING RIGHT NOW.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

BUT THERE'S STILL NO PROHIBITIONS, THERE'S NOTHING FROM A REGULATORY PERSPECTIVE OR ANYTHING THAT'S PREVENTING YOU FROM YEAH, I MEAN WE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH THE FAA, SO, UM, ALL OF OUR AUTHORIZATIONS TO FLY ARE VERY MUCH APPROVED AND RUN THROUGH THE FAA.

SO, UM, THIS MAY BE A SOPHOMORE TYPE QUESTION ALSO, BUT, UM, NOT AT ALL.

WHAT KIND? I MEAN, I, I HAVE, UM, I WOULD IMAGINE WITH THE NUMBER OF HOURS THAT YOU GUYS ARE FLYING IN THAT, UM, I'M JUST CURIOUS, WHAT TYPE OF ACCIDENTS HAVE YOU HAD? YEAH, SO OF THOSE A HUNDRED MILE A HUNDRED MILLION MILES THAT WE'VE DONE TO DATE, UM, WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD NO KINDA SERIOUS SAFETY IN INCIDENT, UH, OR NO MAJOR SAFETY INCIDENT.

UM, AND SO WE ARE REALLY PROUD OF THE RELIABILITY OF OUR SYSTEM AND THAT KIND OF SPEAKS TO THE AMOUNT OF TESTING THAT WE DO AHEAD OF TIME, UM, AND THE RELIABILITY THAT KIND OF GOES INTO DEVELOPING THE TECHNOLOGY.

SO NO BIRD STRIKES, NONE OF THAT KIND OF STUFF.

YEAH, BIRD STRIKES HAVE, HAVE NOT BEEN A, AN ISSUE FOR US.

UH, COMMISSIONER PURDY? YES.

UM, ONCE THIS IS FULLY UP AND GOING WITH ALL THE USE CASES INTENDED, HOW MANY PEOPLE WILL BE EMPLOYED AT THIS LOCATION? GOOD QUESTION.

UM, I, I MIGHT HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT NUMBER RIGHT NOW, WORKING OUT OF THE HUB, UM, I THINK WE HAVE ABOUT A, A HANDFUL TO MAYBE DOUBLE, UH, MAYBE A DOZEN, UH, MAINTENANCE FOLKS.

WE ALSO HAVE KIND OF A CUSTOMER SUPPORT TEAM THAT WE'RE BUILDING OUT THERE.

UM, SO IT'S, IT'S GROWING RIGHT NOW.

UM, BUT WE, WE, THE GOAL IS THAT WE CAN HIRE LOCALLY AND WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO KIND OF HAVE AN HQ HERE THAT, UM, FOLKS CAN WORK FROM.

SO WE'RE GROWING THE TEAM, UM, HOPING TO HAVE MORE AND MORE PEOPLE OCCUPY THE SPACE.

OUR OUR SPACE IS ACTUALLY QUITE BIG INSIDE, SO WE'VE GOT LOTS OF, LOTS OF OFFICE SPACE AND HOPING TO BUILD IT.

UM, BUT IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR AN EXACT NUMBER, I CAN GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT.

UM, COMMISSIONER COURT.

SO YOU'RE ALREADY DOING MAINTENANCE HERE, I THINK DRIVING 'EM IN AND OUT, BUT YOU'RE JUST NOT FLYING 'EM HERE DOING THE TEST FLIGHT? SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE ACTUALLY IN THE MIDDLE OF DOING, UM, A TENANT IMPROVEMENT TO THE SPACE.

UM, SO WE'RE BUSY.

THERE'S A COUPLE OF ADJUSTMENTS THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE, UM, PLANNING STAFF, UM, ON ADJUSTING SOME OF THE SPACE SO THAT WE CAN SET UP AND DO ALL THE MAINTENANCE THAT WE WANT.

WELL, I, I DROVE BY ON THE WAY OVER HERE, JUST HAPPENED TO PEEL AROUND THE PARKING LOT RIGHT THERE, AND I, THERE WAS ONE OF 'EM THAT WAS SITTING IN, SITTING IN THE OPEN DOOR THERE.

I WAS REALLY SURPRISED HOW BIG IT WAS, BUT SO I I WAS JUST CURIOUS.

YEAH, WE HAVE BEEN DOING SOME SHIPPING AND RECEIVING FROM THERE, UM, BECAUSE OF THE, I MENTIONED THAT WE'VE GOT A LAUNCH GOING IN, UM, IN MESQUITE AND SO WE'VE BEEN USING THAT SPACE TO KIND OF RECEIVE, UM, AND THEN, UH, DELIVER ITEMS TOO.

AND I'M, I'M JUST CURIOUS, THIS MAY BE FOR STAFF, UH, IF, IF WE APPROVE THIS, WOULD THEY HAVE TO COME BACK IF THEY DECIDED TO FLY THESE IN AND OUT? UH, NO, THEY WOULD NOT.

AND MAYBE I HAVE A COUPLE OTHER QUESTIONS THOUGH, IF THAT WAS, IF THAT HAPPENED TO BE IN THE FUTURE, I DUNNO, WHAT'S THE, UH, THE, UH, COMMUNICATION PATH FOR THESE, THIS MORE TECHNICAL QUESTION, I GUESS, UH, IN TERMS OF KIND OF HOW THEY COMMUNICATE, HOW THEY COMMUNICATE? YEAH.

SO, AND I'M NOT AN EXPERT AT ALL.

UM, SO IN, IN TERMS OF, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A, THERE'S A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT, UH, SYSTEMS THAT WE USE ON BOARD.

UM, SO THERE'S GPS CELLULAR AND A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WAYS.

SO WE KINDA ALSO HAVE REDUNDANCY IN THAT WAY.

AND I, THIS WOULD'VE WOULD'VE BEEN MORE OF A SAFETY REASON I'M ASKING IS I MM-HMM .

HAVE SOME BACKGROUND AND A PREVIOUS LIFE WITH MUCH BIGGER DRONES, THE MILITARY DRONES, AND, AND I, I KNOW WHEN WE WERE WORKING WITH THOSE, THEY HAVE TO ADDRESS ALL THE FAILURE MODES AND IF THEY LOSE COMMUNICATION AND WHAT HAPPENS IF THEY LOSE COMMUNICATION AND WHERE DO THEY GO AND WHAT DO THEY DO.

SO I I WAS WONDERING MAYBE WHAT THOSE CONTINGENCIES WERE.

YEAH, GOOD QUESTION.

AND I CAN ALSO GET BACK TO YOU ON THE SPECIFIC SPECIFICS THERE.

I DO KNOW THAT WE HAVE REDUNDANCY IN THOSE SYSTEMS AS WELL.

UM, AND THEY, I DO BELIEVE THAT THEY HAVE CELLULAR, SO THEY HAVE A WAY TO, TO, UM, BE CONNECTED AT ALL TIMES.

UM, ONE THING THAT I KNOW WE HAVE ACCOUNTED FOR AS WELL IS IF THERE IS LOSS OF POWER, UM, THERE IS THE, THE WAY THAT THE ZIPS ATTACHED TO THE DOCKS IS MECHANICAL, SO THEY ARE STILL ABLE TO, ESSENTIALLY THEY WOULD COME BACK AND DOCK AT THE LOCATION.

SO YOU HAVE QUITE A CROWD WITH YOU THIS EVENING? I DO.

THERE'S NO ONE HERE WHO CAN ADDRESS ANY OF THE ENGINEERING QUESTIONS.

AND IF, IF NOT, THAT'S FINE.

I WAS JUST CURIOUS.

SO I MEAN, IS, ARE MOST OF THE COMMUNICATION CELLULAR, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, HOW THEY COMMUNICATE?

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I KNOW YOU SAID GPS.

I DON'T HAVE ANY ENGINEERS WITH ME HERE TONIGHT.

UM, I BELIEVE MOST OF THE COMMUNICATION IS CELLULAR THOUGH, SO, UM, I WOULD THINK THAT, UH, BEFORE GOING TO COUNCIL , YOU MIGHT WANNA, UH, WE COULD SUDDENLY HAVE ONE IMAGINE THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION THAT WOULD COME UP.

CONNA MAYBE COULD SPEAK TO A LITTLE BIT IN MORE DETAIL.

UH, CONNOR WILKINSON.

SO I, I LEAD CUSTOMER SUPPORT AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WITH ZIPLINE.

UH, OVERALL WE DO HAVE MULTIPLE REDUNDANT CHANNELS.

WE DON'T GENERALLY SPEAK PUBLICLY ABOUT SPECIFIC, LIKE WHO WE USE OR THE CHANNELS, BUT I CAN'T SAY THAT THEY ARE REDUNDANT COMMUNICATIONS AS WELL AS THERE IS A PRESCRIBED BEHAVIOR OF THE VEHICLE IF THERE WERE TO BE A LOSS OF C TWO OR COMMAND AND CONTROL OF THE AIRCRAFT.

AND THAT IS A, UH, APPROVAL BY THE FA AS TO HOW THE AIRCRAFT ACTUALLY BEHAVES AND HOW IT DETERMINES LIKE WHICH DOCK TO GO BACK TO, FOR EXAMPLE.

CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE? YEAH, CONNOR WILKINSON.

UH, 3 3 3 CORY WAY SOUTH SAN FRANCISCO.

HOPEFULLY SOON TO BE 1155 CAST DRIVE.

COMMISSIONERS, ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? NO.

OH, I THOUGHT YOU WERE HITTING YOUR BUTTON.

SO, UM, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I JUST, UM, I, FIRST OF ALL, I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA.

I THINK IT WOULD BE A, A WELCOME ADDITION TO THE RICHARDSON AREA.

UM, I'M JUST A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THERE NOT BEING ANY ADDITIONAL, UM, NEED TO COME BACK TO THE CPC OR TO COUNCIL OR ANYTHING IF YOU GUYS DECIDE TO FLY THE, THE, THE, UH, ZIPS IN AND OUT.

UM, I MEAN, I, I THINK THE, THE USE, UM, WAS INTENDED TO ALLOW FOR, FOR FLIGHTS.

SO I THINK IN CPCS DELIBERATIONS YOU SHOULD ASSUME THAT THAT FLIGHTS ARE A PART OF THE USE.

WHETHER THEY CHOOSE TO DO THAT RIGHT NOW OR AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, THAT'S KIND OF THEIR CALL.

BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT, IT WAS, IT WAS INTENDED THAT, THAT DRONES WOULD BE ABLE TO FLY INTO A DRONE OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE CENTER.

COMMISSIONER PURDY? NO QUESTIONS.

UH, THERE'S NO MORE QUESTIONS.

JUST TO COMMENT.

I THINK THIS IS DEFINITELY A STEP IN THE FUTURISTIC DIRECTION FOR RICHARDSON.

WE JUST GOTTA BE, YOU KNOW, REALLY CAREFUL TO PEOPLE WHO AREN'T READY TO EMBRACE LIKE THAT FAST FEATURE.

'CAUSE THIS WILL BE A LOT FOR THEM.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

UM, THANK YOU.

YOU, SO THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

IS THERE ANYONE, UH, IN THE AUDIENCE WHO HAS COMMENTS EITHER WRITTEN OR OTHERWISE WISE? I HAVE A CARD FOR KEN HERMAN.

UH, NAME IS KEN HERMAN, PO BOX 5 7 2 ETTE, TEXAS, SKY EYES, HIS NAME OF MY COMPANY.

UH, AS THE, AS AS ZIPLINE INDICATED EARLIER IN THE PRESENTATION, I FALL INTO THAT SECOND CATEGORY AS A, UH, DRONE OPERATOR FOR, UH, SERVICE PURPOSES.

SO I'M, I'M A POINT OF CONTACT FOR HIRE WHEN CONSTRUCTION OR, UH, VIDEOGRAPHERS, PHOTOGRAPHERS NEED, UH, DRONE OR AERIAL USES, UH, AROUND THE METROPLEX AND BEYOND.

UM, I'M HERE TONIGHT TO SUPPORT ZIPLINE IN THEIR INITIATIVES HERE.

UH, MAINLY BECAUSE IT IS A GROWING INDUSTRY.

WE ARE HEADING INTO THE FUTURE AND AS SOMEONE ALSO THAT IS IN THIS SPACE, JUST NOT IN A COMPETING PORTION OF THE SPACE, UM, I CAN SPEAK TO ONE OF THE, UH, THE GENTLEMAN YOU MENTIONED ABOUT THE GARLAND.

UM, THEIR COMPETITOR WING IS OPERATING AND THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THE DELIVERY HUBS THAT THEY REFERENCED THAT THEY WOULD BE AT, UH, TO TAKE TO POINT OF DELIVERY, UH, FROM THE HUB.

AND IT'S, AND THIS IS THE TYPE OF A SITUATION HERE WHERE THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, LIKE THEY SAID, MAYBE FLYING A LATER OUT A LATER DATE.

BUT, UM, MY SUPPORT IN WHAT THEY DO AND HOW THEY OPERATE, AND FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, HOW I OPERATE, AND I CAN ONLY SPEAK TO MY EQUIPMENT, UH, IS THAT THERE ARE FAIL SAFES REDUNDANCIES IN THE EQUIPMENT TO RETURN TO HOME.

IF THERE IS A LOSS OF COMMUNICATION, IF THERE IS, UH, A FAILED BATTERY OR SOMETHING IS DETERIORATING ON THE UNIT, UH, IT DOES FIND A WAY TO FIND ITSELF HOME AS SAFELY AS POSSIBLE.

UM, SO I JUST HERE TO PLEDGE MY SUPPORT TO THEM AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING, UH, AS SOMEONE WHO'S A GARLAND RESIDENT AND OFFICE AND

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BUSINESS IN ETTE, UH, AND HAS SEEN FIRSTHAND, UH, BOTH DRONE UP AND WING OTHER COMPETITORS THAT THEY REFERENCED OF THAT PART OF THAT SIX IN THE UNITED STATES, UH, IN OPERATIONS.

SO THAT WAS THE PUR PUR, EXCUSE ME, THE PURPOSE OF ME BEING HERE TONIGHT WAS TO SUPPORT THEM.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

UH, DISTINGUISHED COMMISSIONERS.

ANYONE ELSE? I HAVE A CARD FOR ADRIAN DOSO DOSO.

I I BEAT THAT UP.

I KNOW.

THANK YOU, UH, FOR YOUR TIME.

MY NAME IS ADRIAN DOCO.

UH, I WEAR A FEW HATS.

ONE I'M MOST PROUDLY FOR IS THE, UH, ASSOCIATION FOR UNC CREWED VEHICLE SYSTEMS INTERNATIONAL.

WE ARE A NONPROFIT DEDICATED TO THE ADVANCEMENT OF THESE TECHNOLOGIES.

I'M ALSO THE LEAD FAA SAFETY REPRESENTATIVE.

SO I, I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERNS WHEN IT COMES TO SAFETY.

UM, I AM DEFINITELY PRO, YOU KNOW, THIS INITIATIVE BECAUSE THESE TYPES OF TECHNOLOGIES HAVE SAVED MY FATHER'S LIVES.

THERE WAS AN INCIDENT A FEW YEARS BACK AND I'M A LE A RESIDENT OF LOUISVILLE, TEXAS WHERE WING OPERATES VIA WALMART AND HE WAS ABLE TO GET HIS CRUCIAL MEDICATIONS WITHIN FOUR MIN FOUR MINUTES OF US MAKING THAT INITIAL CALL ON THE APP.

SO I REALLY IMPLORE YOU TO CONSIDER ADOPTING THESE SORT OF TECHNOLOGIES BECAUSE THESE ARE SOME OF THE MOST SAFEST SYSTEMS IN AVIATION SINCE THAT DATA HAS BEEN AC ACQUIRED.

AUTONOMOUS AND UNCEDED SYSTEMS HAVE ZERO FATALITIES TILL TILL TODAY, UNLESS OBVIOUSLY IN MILITARY FORM.

BUT I I, I STRONGLY URGE THAT YOU CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTANDING THAT THE FUTURE IS HERE BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK INTERNATIONALLY, THESE, THESE TECHNOLOGIES HAVE BEEN WIDELY ADOPTED AND, YOU KNOW, JUST TO CONSIDER HOW FORTUNATE YOU ARE TO HAVE ONE OF THEIR REGIONAL HUBS HERE, THAT, ESPECIALLY FOR WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AND THE FUTURE GENERATION OF AVIATION IS, THIS IS SUCH A BLESSING FOR YOU FOLKS.

AND YOU KNOW, I, I REALLY, UH, APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ANYONE ELSE? ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? ALRIGHT.

ALL RIGHT, WELL, SEEING NONE, I INVITE THE APPLICANT TO COME BACK FOR REBUTTAL OR COMMENTS IF YOU CHOOSE TO.

YOU'RE GOOD.

COMMISSIONERS, NO ADDITIONAL COMMENTS.

I DID WANNA HIGHLIGHT THAT WE HAVE YOU DROID WITH US TONIGHT, UM, FOR SOME SHOW AND TELL.

SO IF ANYBODY'S INTERESTED IN SEEING IT AFTER THE MEETING, UM, WE HAVE IT HERE.

THANK YOU MATT.

UM, AND JUST THANK YOU ALSO FOR UM, KEN AND ADRIAN WHO CAME AND SUPPORTED US TONIGHT.

UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

ALRIGHT, SO, UH, I THINK AT THIS TIME WE WOULD, UH, ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING.

MR. VICE CHAIRMAN.

UM, I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF THIS CASE.

ALRIGHT, DO I HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND.

UM, ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

ALRIGHT, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

UM, IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS AT THIS TIME? WE WOULD GO FOR DISCUSSION QUESTIONS OR A MOTION ON THE ACTUAL, UH, UM, FILE.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION GO AHEAD THAT WE APPROVE A SPECIAL PERMIT FOR DRONE OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE MAINTENANCE CENTER ON 4.96 ACRE LOT.

UH, CURRENTLY ZONED AS PD PLAN AND DEVELOPMENT COLLINS IN ARAPAHOE.

ALRIGHT, PROPER.