[CALL TO ORDER]
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GOOD EVENING.I CALL THIS MEETING THE RICHARDSON CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER AT 6:00 PM FIRST, FIRST ON OUR AGENDA WILL BE COUNCILWOMAN JENNIFER.
LEAD US IN THE INVOCATION AND PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE.
MAYOR, PLEASE JOIN ME AS YOU'RE COMFORTABLE, GRACIOUS GOD, WHERE HEARTS ARE FEARFUL AND CONSTRICTED, GRANT COURAGE AND HOPE WHERE ANXIETY IS INFECTIOUS AND WIDENING GRANT PEACE AND REASSURANCE WHERE IMPOSSIBILITIES CLOSE EVERY DOOR.
AND WINDOW GRANT IMAGINATION AND RESISTANCE WHERE DISTRUST, TWISTS OUR THINKING.
GRANT HEALING AND ILLUMINATION.
PLUS THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY THAT THEY, IN TIMES OF CONFLICT, ENGAGE ONE ANOTHER WITHOUT HATRED OR BI BITTERNESS.
THAT THEY LISTEN TO YOUR VOICE AMID COMPETING CLAIMS, AND THAT THEY WORK TOGETHER FOR MUTUAL FORBEARANCE AND RESPECT.
WE ASK THESE THINGS IN YOUR NAME, AMEN.
FOR THE US PLEDGE, PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY JUSTICES THE TEXAS FLAG, HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG ON TEXAS FLAG TO BE TEXAS.
ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.
[3. MINUTES OF THE APRIL 14, 2025, APRIL 15, 2025, (SPECIAL CALLED MEETING), AND APRIL 21, 2025, AND APRIL 21, 2025 (SPECIAL CALLED MEETING) MEETINGS]
THAT BRINGS US LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE APRIL 15TH, 2025 SPECIAL CALLED MEETING, MINUTE MEETING.AND APRIL 21ST, 2025, AND APRIL 21ST, 2025.
MR. DORIAN, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS STATED, MR. SCHUEL, I SECOND GOT A MOTION.
ALL IN FAVOR? SHOW HANDS, PLEASE.
NOW WE GO TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS AND VISITORS FORUM.
MR. MAGNER? UH, UH, THANK YOU, MAYOR.
WE ARE IN RECEIPT OF TWO CARDS IN ADVANCE OF THE 5:00 PM DEADLINE.
ONE IS FROM MR. ALEXANDER SCOTT OF NINE 16 GREENBRIER LANE.
HE WANTED TO, UH, SH UH, UH, SHARE HIS APPRECIATION, UH, WITH THE, UH, FOR THE CITY COUNCIL AND ESPECIALLY COUNCILMAN CORCORAN FOR BEING AT THE TEXAS HOUSE COMMITTEE, UH, OF TRANSPORTATION LAST THURSDAY, SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION TO HB 3, 1 8, 7.
THE SECOND IS FROM MR. RICHARD STECKER 28 0 9, FOX CREEK DRIVE, REGARDING, UH, ITEMS NUMBER SEVEN A, B, AND C.
AND, UM, WE WERE, UH, KENT FILE, OUR, UH, CHIEF, UH, UH, OPERATIONS OFFICER WAS ABLE TO, UH, VISIT WITH MR. SCHREKER EARLIER TODAY TO RESPOND TO HIS QUESTIONS.
AND, UH, GEORGE IS ACTUALLY GOING TO, UH, TOUCH ON THAT AS WELL.
WE DO HAVE ONE SPEAKER SIGNED UP FOR OUR PUBLIC HEARING.
SO, UM, I'M GONNA READ THE INSTRUCTIONS, UM, AT THIS TIME, MAYOR.
AND THIS WILL APPLY TO, UH, BOTH PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT WE HAVE LATER TONIGHT.
ALL SPEAKERS, UH, SHOULD COMPLETE A COMMENT, A PUBLIC COMMENT CARD, AND SUBMIT IT TO THE CITY'S SECRETARY.
UH, SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER THAT, THAT THEY ARE RECEIVED.
WHEN YOUR NAME IS CALLED, PLEASE STEP TO THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
ALL SPEAKERS WILL BE LIMITED TO A MAXIMUM OF FIVE MINUTES, IS INDICATED BY THE TWO TIMERS WHEN THE TIMER BEEPS, SPEAKERS SHOULD CONCLUDE THEIR COMMENTS PROPERLY.
SPEAKERS MUST NOT PHYSICALLY APPROACH MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL OR STAFF, AND SHOULD REMAIN AT THE PODIUM DURING THEIR COMMENTS.
SPEAKERS WITH HANDOUTS, MR. BREEN TO THE CITY SECRETARY FOR DISTRIBUTION.
SUBMITTING COMMENTS ON THE SAME TOPIC ARE ENCOURAGED TO REDUCE REPETITIVE REMARKS BY INDICATING THAT THE COMMENTS HAVE ALL BEEN ADDRESSED OR BY SELECTING A REPRESENTATIVE SPEAKER.
THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT PROHIBITS THE CITY COUNCIL FROM DISCUSSING OR TAKING ACTION ON ITEMS THAT ARE NOT POSTED ON THE AGENDA.
CITY COUNCIL AND STAFF WILL NOT AFFIRM OR OPPOSE ANY SPEAKER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.
THE MAYOR OR CITY MANAGER MAY RESPOND WITH FACTS OF POLICY OR DIRECT CITY STAFF TO RESPOND TO THE SPEAKER.
AFTER THE MEETING, THE AUDIENCE DOES ASK TO REFRAIN FROM APPLAUDING OUR EXPRESSIONS OF SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION, A COPY OF THE COUNCIL RULES OF ORDER AND PROCEDURE.
AND THESE GUIDELINES MAY BE FOUND ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE.
AT THIS TIME, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE TO SILENCE THEIR CELL PHONE DURING THE DURATION OF THE MEETING.
MS. NEER, HAS ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? I HAVE NO CARDS.
JUST ONE FOR A PUBLIC HEARING THERE.
THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM NUMBER SIX, REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE 2025 GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS AND CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION BOND SALE.
MR. MAYNARD, UH, MAYOR, WE'RE, UH, ACTUALLY, LET'S SEE, NUMBER FIVE, UH, FOR THE APPOINTMENTS FIRST, FORGIVE ME, I APOLOGIZE.
I GOT EXCITED THERE THOUGH, DID I?
[5. CONSIDER APPOINTMENTS TO THE COMMUNITY INCLUSION AND ENGAGEMENT COMMISSION, NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT BOARD, PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION, SIGN CONTROL BOARD, AND APPOINTMENT OF THE HEALTH OFFICER.]
WE'RE GONNA GO TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE.CONSIDER APPOINTMENTS TO THE COMMUNITY INCLUSION AND ENGAGEMENT COMMISSION, NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT BOARD, PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION, SIGN CONTROL BOARD, AND APPOINTMENT OF THE HEALTH OFFICER, MR. BAGER.
UM, UM, SUBSEQUENT TO YOUR NOVEMBER OF, UH, 24 APPOINTMENTS, WE HAD SEVERAL OPENINGS, UH, COME UP, UM, ON, UH, THE COMMISSIONS THAT YOU MENTIONED.
IN ADDITION, UM, UM, JOHN SWEN, OUR LONG TERM, LONG TIME NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT, UH, BOARD REPRESENTATIVE IS, UM, GOING TO BE WRAPPING UP HIS SERVICE.
AND SO YOU HAVE THAT APPOINTMENT TO CONSIDER.
AND THEN THE, UM, UM, BIANNUAL APPOINTMENT
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OF, UH, YOUR HEALTH OFFICER, DR. DAVID BONNET, WHO HAS SERVED, UH, UH, THAT ROLE, UM, VERY EFFECTIVELY, UH, FOR SEVERAL YEARS, WISHES TO CONTINUE ON AS WELL.AND SO THOSE WILL BE YOUR APPOINTMENTS TONIGHT.
AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO CALL ON COUNCIL MEMBER CORCORAN TO MAKE A MOTION ON THE COMMUNITY INCLUSION AND ENGAGEMENT COMMISSION.
MR. MAYOR, I MOTION TO APPOINT AMY SING TO THE COMMUNITY COMMUNITY INCLUSION AND ENGAGEMENT COMMISSION TO FILL AN UNEXPIRED TERM EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY AND ENDING DECEMBER 31ST, 2026.
LOOKING FOR A SECOND? MR. HUTTER.
I'D BE LOOKING TO MR. MR. BARRIOS.
NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT, PLEASE.
MAYOR, I MOVE TO APPOINT FRANKLIN BYRD TO THE NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT FOR A TERM EFFECTIVE JUNE 1ST, 2025 TO MAY 31ST, 2027.
SECOND, MS. JUSTICE, CAN I GET A SECOND? GOT A MOTION.
MR. HUTCHIN RIDER, COULD I GET A MOTION ON THE PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION, PLEASE? YES, MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO APPOINT LESLIE HUNTINGTON TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION TO FILL AN UNEXPIRED TERM EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY, AND ENDING, ENDING DECEMBER 31ST, 2025.
ALL IN FAVOR? SHOW OF HANDS PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
MR. SHA SHU WILL BE LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO APPOINT SIGNING CONTROL BOARD.
MR. MAYOR, I WOULD, UH, LIKE TO PUT A MOTION TO APPOINT MARK WICKERSHAM TO, TO THE SIGN CONTROL BOARD AS AN ALTERNATE FOR AN UNEXPIRED TERM EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY AND ENDING DECEMBER 31ST, 2026.
LOOKING FOR A SECOND, MR. DORIAN? I SECOND THAT.
MR. DORY WOULD BE LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE HELP OFFICER, PLEASE.
DR. DAVID ETT AS THE HELP OFFICER FOR A TERM ENDING OCTOBER 1ST, 2026.
MR. RE, MAYOR, I WOULD VERY SOUNDLY ENDORSE DR.
HE'S BEEN AN AMAZING MEMBER OF OUR COMMUNITY AND OF OUR, OUR HEALTH OFFICER.
SO I WOULD VERY MUCH LIKE TO SECOND THAT.
ALL IN FAVOR? SHOW OF HANDS PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
UH, THANK YOU, MAYOR, UH, AMY AND EMER, UH, OUR CITY SECRETARY IS PREPARED TO SWEAR, UM, YOUR NEW APPOINTEES THAT WERE ABLE TO MAKE IT TONIGHT.
I KNOW WE HAD SEVERAL, UH, CONFLICTS, AND SO FOR THOSE THAT WERE UNABLE TO ATTEND, WE WILL SWEAR THEM IN PRIOR TO THEIR FIRST MEETING.
AND OF COURSE, UH, FRANKLIN BIRD WILL BE SWORN IN, UH, BY THE WATER DISTRICT, UH, AT HIS FIRST MEETING.
SO, AMY, I'LL LET YOU CALL TO SEE WHO WAS ABLE TO JOIN US TONIGHT.
AMY SINGH, WILL YOU JOIN ME? PLEASE, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
AND WHEN I'M FINISHING RECITING THE OATH, SAY I DO SO.
DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR TO FAITHFULLY EXECUTE THE DUTIES OF BOARD MEMBER FOR THE RICHARDSON COMMUNITY INCLUSION AND ENGAGEMENT COMMISSION, AND TO THE BEST OF YOUR ABILITY, PRESERVE, PROTECT, AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES OF THIS STATE? I DO.
AND THEN THERE'S ONE MORE INSIDE TOO.
IS LESLIE HERE, LESLIE HUNTINGTON AND MARK WICKERSHAM.
WE WILL SWEAR THEM IN AT BEFORE THEIR FIRST MEETING.
[6. REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE 2025 GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND AND CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION BOND SALE]
THAT BRINGS US TO THE REAL NUMBER SIX REVIEW.REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE 2025 GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND AND CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION BOND SALE.
WE'RE, UH, VERY EXCITED AGAIN HAVE GEORGE WILFORD WITH HILLTOP SECURITIES AND, UH, BOB TRANSFIELD WITH, UH, NORTON ROSE AND FULBRIGHT WITH US TO, UH, UH, UH, PASS ALONG, UH, THE ACTIVITIES TODAY THAT, UH, OCCURRED RE RELATED TO SERIES 2025.
I ALSO WANNA ACKNOWLEDGE OUR DIRECTOR, UH, FINANCE AND ANITA COTRAN, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR TODD, UH, GASTRO FOR THE GREAT WORK THAT THEY'VE DONE COORDINATING WITH BOTH, UH, GEORGE AND, UH, BOB, AND OF COURSE, OUR, OUR, UH, KEN FILE LEADING, UH, ALL OF OUR FINANCIAL, UH, SERVICES FROM OUR OFFICE.
SO, GEORGE, THANKS SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU FOR THE REPORT.
UH, MR. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, UH, MR. MAGNER, UH, PLEASURE TO BE HERE.
AND FOR THE RECORD, GEORGE WILLIFORD WITH HILLTOP SECURITIES.
I WILL HAVE TO THANK THE MAYOR BECAUSE, UH, I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER HAD ANYONE GET EXCITED ABOUT ANYTHING THAT I NEED TO PRESENT.
SO,
UH, NO, SERIOUSLY, UH, TODAY WAS A GOOD DAY TO BE IN THE MARKET, UH, TO SELL THE DEBT ISSUES THAT THE CITY HAS.
AND I THINK, AND I THINK KENT, ANITA AND TODD CAN
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AFFIRM, UH, HAD A VERY SUCCESSFUL SALE.WE PREPARED INFORMATION FOR THE COUNCIL, SHOULD EACH OF YOU SHOULD HAVE BLACK BOOKS, UH, AND SO ON.
AND, UH, SO I'M GONNA, WE'VE TABBED THOSE, HOPEFULLY TO MAKE IT, UH, MORE EXPEDIENT WORKING THROUGH THAT.
BUT YOU'LL NOTICE THE FIRST PAGE OUTLINES THE THREE SEPARATE ISSUES.
THE, UH, 61.31 MILLION GO BONDS, UH, THE, UH, CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION LONGER TERM, AND THEN ALSO THE, UH, GOLF COURSE, UH, TAXABLE, UH, ISSUE.
THE MOST IMPORTANT THING ON THAT PAGE IS, IF YOU'LL NOTICE AT THE BOTTOM, THE TWO AAA RATINGS WERE AFFIRMED BY MOODY'S AND STANDARD AND POOR.
AND THAT IS VERY, UH, UNIQUE AND VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE CITY, AND IT'S COMMENDABLE.
UH, THERE'S A LETTER THAT WE INCLUDED BEHIND THAT, THAT BASICALLY KIND OF SUMMARIZES, UH, EVERYTHING THAT OCCURRED.
THE, UH, BONDS WERE SOLD ON A NEGOTIATED BASIS THROUGH STIFEL, NICHOLAS, RAYMOND, JAMES, AND B OKAY.
AND I THINK THEY DID A, A REALLY GOOD JOB.
UH, THERE'S A, UH, PLATFORM NOWADAYS CALLED GAME DAY THAT YOU CAN WATCH KINDA LIVE ACTION, HOW THE ORDERS COME IN AND SO ON.
AND SO, ANITA, TODD, AND KENT WERE ABLE TO, TO VIEW THAT DURING THE ORDER PERIOD.
AND, AND VIRTUALLY EVERY MATURITY HAD A GREAT, UH, INTEREST.
AND YOU HAD MAJOR, UH, PLAYERS LIKE, UH, STATE FARM, OF COURSE, WHO HAS A LOCAL PRESENCE, TRAVELERS, UH, AND, AND MANY OTHERS THAT PARTICIPATED IN PURCHASE OF THESE ISSUES.
YOU'LL SEE, UH, KIND OF A SUMMARY AS FAR AS INTEREST RATE WISE.
UH, THE, UH, GO BONDS HAD A, AN EFFECTIVE TRUE INTEREST COST RATE OF 4.14%.
THAT'S, UH, A LITTLE BETTER IN EACH CASE THAN AS OF FRIDAY WHEN WE WERE, UH, LOOKING AT WHERE WE THOUGHT THE MARKET WOULD BE.
WE WERE SAYING THAT WAS ABOUT A 4.17, UH, WAS HOW IT CALCULATED OUT THE, UH, THEN CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION HAD A 4.20 EFFECTIVE RATE.
AGAIN, THAT'S ABOUT TWO BASIS POINTS BELOW WHAT WE WERE EXPECTING.
AND THEN THE TAXABLE ISSUE SMALLER HAD A 5.47%, AND THAT'S FIVE BASIS POINTS.
WE WERE LOOKING AT, UH, PROJECTING A 5.52 AS OF FRIDAY.
YOU'LL NOTICE BELOW THAT, AGAIN, THE STATEMENT ABOUT THE RATINGS BEING AFFIRMED.
AND THEN ON THE SECOND PAGE ARE SOME COMMENTS THAT THE RATING AGENCIES MADE SPECIFIC TO THE CITY AND WHAT IS RE RELEVANT TO THOSE RATINGS.
AND, AND IN ESSENCE, THEY RECOGNIZE THE STRONG TAX BASE, THE ECONOMY, UH, AND, AND COMMERCIAL SUPPORT THAT'S THERE.
BUT WITH RESPECT TO THE CITY, THE STRONG RESERVE POSITION IN FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT, UH, AND THAT'S LONG GOING AND IT'S BEEN MAINTAINED.
AND, AND FROM THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAVE, WHEN WE HAVE THE DISCUSSIONS, THEY ACKNOWLEDGE, UH, AND TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT, WE PUT TOGETHER RIGHT BEHIND THE LETTER, A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT SHOW WHAT THE INTEREST RATE MARKET HAS DONE.
UH, FIRST THERE'S A GRAPH OF THE BOND BUYER INDEX.
AND YOU'LL NOTICE IN THE BLOW UP OF THAT, THAT, UH, BEGINNING IN APRIL, THE INDEX JUST HAD THIS MORE OR LESS CONSISTENT UPWARD WEEK TO WEEK INCREASE.
THEN ON THE NEXT PAGE IS, UM, THE 10, 20 AND 30 YEAR MATURITY, UH, MMD OR MUNICIPAL MARKET DATA YIELDS.
AND, UH, AGAIN, IN THE BLOWUP, WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS BEGINNING, UH, IN LATE MARCH, UH, MID-MARCH, UH, WHAT WE'VE HAD IS AN EXTREMELY, UH, EXTREME TIME OF EXTREME VOLATILITY.
THAT'S WHAT I MEANT TO SAY, UH, EVERY DAY OR A FEW DAYS WHEN THERE'S BEEN SOME, UH, DISCUSSION ABOUT THE TARIFFS OR, UH, INFLATION OR THIS OR THAT, IT'S, IT'S ROCKED THE MARKET IN SOME CASES.
AND, AND THAT'S WHY I WANTED THIS BLOW UP IN THERE, BECAUSE YOU CAN LITERALLY SEE THAT HOW RATES FELL SHOT UP, UH, SIGNIFICANTLY DROPPED AND, AND SO ON.
BUT YOU'LL SEE THAT WE, WE ARE IN A KIND OF A LULL WHERE RATES HAVE COME BACK DOWN.
AND THAT'S WHY IT WAS, UH, GOOD TO BE IN THE MARKET TODAY.
THREE WEEKS AGO, YOU COULDN'T HAVE SOLD THE ISSUER.
THAT WAS A WEEK WHERE A LOT OF BUYERS THAT, UH, WERE DOING NEGOTIATED SALES CHOSE TO PULL THEIR ISSUES AND, AND GO TO MARKET AT SOME LATER DATE.
SOME HAVE COME BACK SUBSEQUENT, BUT IT WAS ONE OF THOSE WEEKS THAT RATES AND INVESTORS JUST PULLED BACK AND SO ON.
SO, AGAIN, I THINK, UH, EVERYTHING TIMING WISE WORKED WELL FOR THE CITY.
UH, BEHIND TAB ONE, WE HAVE DETAILED INFORMATION ABOUT THE GO ISSUE, A, A FRONT COVER OF THE PRELIMINARY OFFICIAL STATEMENT, WHICH, UH, IS MORE OR LESS LIKE A
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PROSPECTUS IN, IN A LOT OF SECURITIES OFFERINGS.IT'S THE DOCUMENT THAT, UH, UH, LAYS OUT ALL THE INFORMATION ABOUT SECURITIES LAWS ABOUT THE ISSUE ITSELF, AND ALSO, UH, ABOUT THE CITY AS FAR AS TAX-BASED FINANCIALS, UH, AND SO ON.
BUT THERE ARE COMPUTER, UH, FROM THE, OUR PROGRAM RUNS, UH, PAGES THAT ARE IN THERE.
AND ON THE SECOND PAGE BEHIND THAT, POS, UH, YOU'LL NOTICE, AS I SAID, 61.31 MILLION WAS THE PAR, OUR ISSUE SIZE, UH, OF THE GEO ISSUE.
BUT YOU'RE GONNA RECEIVE 63.67 MILLION OF ACTUAL PROJECT, UH, FUNDS THAT'LL BE SPENT ON IMPROVEMENTS.
AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS, UH, THE YIELDS GENERATED VERSUS THE ACTUAL INTEREST RATES.
YOU RECEIVE A SIGNIFICANT PREMIUM AS YOU HAVE IN, UH, PAST YEARS THAT DOWNSIZES THE ISSUE.
UH, AND THEN, UH, BEHIND THAT, ON LABELED PAGE TWO, UH, IT SHOWS THE DEBT SERVICE.
AND ONE THING THAT'S IMPORTANT ABOUT THIS GEO ISSUE IS IT WAS PRETTY HEAVILY FRONT LOADED AS FAR AS PRINCIPAL MATURITIES, 14 POINT A HALF MILLION, 12.4, AND SO ON.
SO THAT SHORTENED THE AVERAGE LIFE, WHICH IS ONE REASON THE, UH, RATE, PARDON ME, EFFECTIVE RATE WAS LOW.
BUT, UH, BEGINNING IN 2030, UH, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE DEBT SERVICE LEVELS OUT ON THIS ISSUE AT ABOUT 2.297 OR SO MILLION PER YEAR.
UH, BEHIND TAB TWO IS THE TAX EXEMPT CERTIFICATE OF OBLIGATION ISSUE.
UH, AND THAT CONTAINED, IF YOU'LL FLIP A COUPLE OF PAGES UP, SORRY, THE SOURCES AND USES, UH, 20.575 IS THE PARAMOUNT, BUT YOU'LL ACTUALLY RECEIVE 21.735 MILLION OF PROJECT PROCEEDS.
YOU CAN LOOK ON THE FOLLOWING PAGE.
IT SAYS DEBT SERVICE SCHEDULE, AND YOU'LL SEE THAT THIS HAS 1,000,960 FOR SEVERAL YEARS, AND THEN DROPS THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THE REPAYMENT TERMS TIED TO THE TYPE OF ASSETS BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE, UH, FIRE EQUIPMENT WITH A SHORTER REPAYMENT AND SO ON.
AND THEN THE ACTUAL, UH, WATER AND SEWER IMPROVEMENTS ARE THE FULL 20 YEAR.
BUT AGAIN, IT SHOWS 4.1979 OR 4.2, UH, EFFECTIVE OR TRUE INTEREST COST RATE BEHIND TAB THREE IS THE TAXABLE CERTIFICATE OF OBLIGATION.
THE, UH, 6 MILLION, UH, PARAMOUNT WAS ACTUALLY 6,095,000.
THAT'S FOR GOLF COURSE IMPROVEMENTS.
AND, UH, JUST, UH, IN CASE THERE ARE QUESTIONS, THE REASON THAT'S DONE TAXABLE, AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE NORM FOR, UH, I'D SAY VIRTUALLY EVERY CITY THAT HAS A GOLF COURSE AND, AND DOES ANY DEBT FINANCING FOR IT BECAUSE YOU HAVE, UH, PROFESSIONALS, UH, UH, AND PROS SHOPS AND, UH, A LOT OF THINGS INVOLVED THAT'S PRIVATE, UH, REVENUE AND, UH, UH, SO ON.
SO UNDER THE INTERNAL REVENUE CODE, ANY TYPE PROJECT, UH, FOR INSTANCE, PARKING, WHEN, UH, PARKING FACILITIES WERE BUILT, THE EISMAN WHERE GENERATING PRIVATE REVENUES CAN'T BE DONE ON A TAX EXEMPT BASIS, HAVE TO BE DONE AT TAXABLE RATES.
THAT'S WHY THE GOLF COURSE WAS BROKEN OUT AND FINANCE SEPARATELY AS A TAXABLE SERIES, UH, TO COMPLY WITH, UH, TAX LAW AND SO ON.
BUT AGAIN, UH, 6 MILLION IS THE, UH, ACTUAL PROCEEDS AMOUNT AND THE DEBT SERVICE ON THAT, UH, AROUND 505,000 PER YEAR.
AND THE RATE 5.47%, WHICH, UH, UH, IS NOT AT ALL BAD FOR A TAXABLE, UH, INSTRUMENT, UH, THAT WOULD BE KIND OF COMPARABLE TO MORTGAGE RATES, WHICH AGAIN, ARE NOT TAX EXEMPT.
AND THEY'RE WELL OVER 6% RIGHT NOW.
SO, UH, GIVES YOU SOME, UH, COMPARISON BEHIND TAB FOUR, WE INCLUDED THE FULL RATING REPORTS FROM BOTH AGENCIES AND, UH, I WOULD ENCOURAGE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO READ IT 'CAUSE I THINK YOU'LL BE PLEASED WITH THEIR COMMENTARY, UH, AND, UH, HOW WELL THE CITY, UH, IS PERCEIVED.
BUT WITH THAT, I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
OUR RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE, UH, UH, UNDER THE ACTION ITEMS TO APPROVE THE SALES, AND, UH, SUBJECT TO ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL LET BOB, UH, GO THROUGH THE, UH, ACTION AND HOW, UH, WITH RESPECT TO EACH OF THE ISSUES.
UM, BOB, ARE YOU GONNA SAY SOMETHING AT THIS TIME OR DO YOU WANT TO ENTERTAIN QUESTIONS? GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.
AGAIN, I'M BOB DRANSFIELD WITH NORTON ROSE FULBRIGHT, YOUR BOND COUNCIL.
WE'RE CERTAINLY HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN WHATEVER QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
I WOULD JUST MENTION TO YOU THAT SHOULD YOU GO FORWARD TONIGHT WITH
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THIS ACTION ITEM, THE EXPECTATION WOULD BE MONEY AND FUNDS GET DELIVERED ABOUT A MONTH FROM NOW.SO THE END OF MAY, ABOUT MAY 28TH IS THE TARGET DATE FOR CLOSING OF THESE FINANCINGS.
UH, AND AS THIS WAS DONE THROUGH A PARAMETERS PROCESS OF DELEGATED SALE TO ONE OF THE DELEGATED PRICING OFFICERS WAS YOUR CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER.
AND SO SHE, TO GO FORWARD WITH THAT, THAT'LL AFFECT THE SALE WITH THESE UNDERWRITERS THAT, UH, MR. WILLIFORD HAS JUST TALKED ABOUT.
ABOUT QUESTIONS? ANYBODY? OKAY, COUNSEL, SO YOU, NO QUESTIONS.
THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH, GEORGE, BOB, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
[7. CONSIDER ADOPTION OF THE FOLLOWING ORDINANCES: A. CONSIDER ALL MATTERS INCIDENT AND RELATED TO THE ISSUANCE AND SALE OF “CITYOF RICHARDSON, TEXAS GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS, SERIES 2025,” INCLUDING THE ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF SUCH BONDS, ESTABLISHING PARAMETERS FOR THE SALE AND ISSUANCE OF SUCH BONDS. B. CONSIDER ALL MATTERS INCIDENT AND RELATED TO THE ISSUANCE AND SALE OF “CITY OF RICHARDSON, TEXAS COMBINATION TAX AND REVENUE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION, SERIES 2025A,” INCLUDING THE ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF SUCH CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION, ESTABLISHING PARAMETERS FOR THE SALE AND ISSUANCE OF SUCH CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION. C. CONSIDER ALL MATTERS INCIDENT AND RELATED TO THE ISSUANCE AND SALE OF “CITY OF RICHARDSON, TEXAS COMBINATION TAX AND REVENUE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION, TAXABLE SERIES 2025B,” INCLUDING THE ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF SUCH CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION, ESTABLISHING PARAMETERS FOR THE SALE AND ISSUANCE OF SUCH CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION.]
THIS TIME, I WOULD CONSIDER ALL MATTERS INCIDENT RELATED TO THE INSURANCE OF SALE OF CITY OF RICHARDSON, TEXAS GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND SERIES 2025, INCLUDING THE ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE ASSURANCE OF SUCH BONDS, ESTABLISHED PARAMETERS FOR THE SALE AND ASSURANCE OF THE BONDS.JENNIFER, COULD I GET YOU TO, SO MOVED.
BRINGS US TO B, CONSIDER ALL MATTERS INCIDENT RELATED TO THE ASSURANCE AND SALE OF CITY, OF THE CITY OF RICHARDSON, TEXAS, COMBINATION TAX AND REVENUE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION SERIES 2025 A, INCLUDING THE ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING ASSURANCE OF SUCH CERTIFICATES AND OF, OF OBLIGATION, ESTABLISHING PARAMETERS FOR THE SALE AND ISSUANCE OF SUCH CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION.
GOT A MOTION, MR. RUCHA, WRITER? SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, SHOW OF HANDS PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
IT BRINGS TO ITEM C, CONSIDER ALL MATTERS INCIDENTS RELATED TO THE ASSURANCE AND SALE OF CITY OF RICHARDSON, TEXAS, COMBINATION TAX AND REVENUE, CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION TAXABLE SERIES 2025 B, INCLUDING THE ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE, AUTHORIZED AND ASSURANCE OF SUCH CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION, ESTABLISHING PARAMETERS FOR THE SALE AND ASSURANCE OF SUCH CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATIONS.
GOT A MOTION, MR. SAM SCHUL? SECOND.
[8. REVIEW AND DISCUSS CITY OF RICHARDSON/DART ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIES]
ALL RIGHT.THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM NUMBER EIGHT TO REVIEW AND DISCUSS CITY OF RICHARDSON DART ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY.
UH, UH, I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE, UH, OUR, UH, DART BOARD CHAIR, UH, AND FORMER RICHARDSON MAYOR GARY SLAGEL IS, UH, HERE TONIGHT FOR THIS BRIEFING, UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
I'M GOING TO TAKE YOU THROUGH A BRIEFING, UM, THAT WILL JUST SUMMARIZE FOR YOU SOME WORK THAT, UM, I'VE BEEN, UH, INVOLVED WITH, UH, WITH OTHER CITY MANAGERS AT THE REQUEST OF NADINE LIE, UH, THE CEO OF DART.
AND, UH, THAT'S COMING OUTTA SOME DIRECTION THAT GARY AND THE BOARD PROVIDED HER.
AND THEN GARY, SUBSEQUENT TO MY, UH, BRIEF EXPLANATION OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON, LO LOVE TO TAKE ANY COMMENTS FROM YOU, AND THEN WE CAN, UH, UH, MAYOR COUNCIL CAN ASK QUESTIONS.
SO, JUST IN TERMS OF A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND AND TIMELINE, IT WAS, UH, LAST FALL, UM, WHEN, UM, THE INITIAL DISCUSSIONS AROUND THE POSSIBILITY OF DART PARTICIPATING IN A, UH, TURS, UH, UM, VIA A SALES TAX CONTRIBUTION BEGAN TO GAIN SOME TRACTION.
UM, IT WAS IN, UH, JANUARY WHEN, UH, NADINE BROUGHT THIS TO THE DART BOARD AND THE DART BOARD DIRECTED HER TO START, UH, A, UH, WORKING CITY MANAGERS GROUP TO EXPLORE HOW THIS MIGHT ACTUALLY, UM, COME TO FRUITION.
UH, YOU CAN SEE, UH, MYSELF ALONG WITH THE CITY MANAGERS OF IRVING, UH, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER OF DALLAS, AND THEN THE MANAGERS OF CARROLLTON ROULETTE GLEN HEIGHTS ALL MET, UH, WITH, UH, DART REPRESENTATIVES.
AND I'LL, I'LL SAY THAT, UH, UH, KAITLYN, UH, HOLLAND, WHO'S THE VP OVER, UH, REAL ESTATE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, HAS LED THIS FOR DART AND SHE'S DONE A WONDERFUL JOB OF, UH, TAKING SIX CITY MANAGERS AND TRY TO GET 'EM TO AGREE ON SOMETHING.
UM, AND SO, UH, SHE DESERVES A LOT OF CREDIT.
WE'VE MET USUALLY BETWEEN TWO AND THREE HOURS.
UM, YOU CAN SEE HERE WE'VE MET, UM, UH, FOUR TIMES IN, IN TOTAL AS A WORKING GROUP, UH, IN FEBRUARY AND MARCH.
UH, AND THEN IN ON APRIL 7TH, WE BROUGHT ALL 13 CITY MANAGERS TOGETHER DOWN AT THE DART OFFICES, AND WE WERE ABLE TO BRIEF THEM, TAKE SOME FEEDBACK, AND THEN ULTIMATELY, UH, WE REACHED, UH, JUST AFTER FOUR MEETINGS, UH, CONCURRENCE ON THE DEAL POINTS OF WHAT THIS WOULD LOOK LIKE ON APRIL THE 21ST.
SO, JUST AS A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND, UM, JUST TO TALK ABOUT TS THE TAX AND CURRENT REINVESTMENT ZONE, UH, THIS IS AUTHORIZED BY THE STATE THROUGH CHAPTER THREE 11 OF THE TAX CODE, UM, WHICH PROVIDES THE, THE LEGAL FRAMEWORK FOR THE TS, UM, BASED ON PROPERTY TAX.
UM, THAT WAS ADOPTED IN 1987 IN 2005.
UH, UH, SECTION 3 11 0 1 2 3, UH, WAS ADDED TO, UH, CHAPTER THREE 11.
AND THAT, UH, ALSO ALLOWED MUNICIPALITIES TO CONTRIBUTE SALES AND USE TAX TO IT TURS.
UM, CURRENTLY YOU CAN SEE HERE, JUST AS A, AS A WAY OF THINKING ABOUT THIS, THERE ARE ABOUT 445 TURS IN TEXAS.
438 OF THOSE, OR PROPERTY TAX ONLY, LIKE THE CITY OF RICHARDSON, UH, TIFF ONE, TWO AND THREE ARE
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PROPERTY TAX, ONLY SEVEN ARE PROPERTY TAX, UH, IN SALES TAX.SO A HYBRID, UM, IN THE DART, UM, IN THE, UH, IN THE DART SERVICE AREA RIGHT NOW, UM, THERE ARE CURRENTLY 36 TURS AND THEY'RE ALL PROPERTY TAX, UH, NO SALES TAX.
UH, MOST OF THE TOUR THAT ARE CREATED IN TEXAS ARE DONE SO WITH PROPERTY TAX BECAUSE IT'S A MORE STABLE, UH, MORE DEPENDABLE AND PREDICTABLE, UH, SOURCE OF REVENUE.
UH, TURS, UH, IS ALSO KNOWN AS WE LIKE TO CALL IT HERE AT TIFF, OUR TIFF DISTRICT.
OF COURSE, WE'VE GOT OUR TAX IN FINANCE, UM, UH, BOARDS, UH, ONE, TWO, AND THREE.
IT'S A FINANCING TOOL THAT ALLOWS US TO PROMOTE A ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN A GEOGRAPHICALLY DEFINED AREA.
ESSENTIALLY WHAT HAPPENS IS WE ARE ABLE TO USE THE INCREMENT OF PROPERTY TAX, UM, THAT IS GENERATED, THAT STAYS IN THAT AREA, CAN BE USED FOR A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT, UH, TYPES OF, UH, PROJECTS AND EXPENDITURES.
UH, AS I MENTIONED, PROPERTY TAX, UM, UH, SALES TAX OR COMBINATION, UH, IS NOW ALLOWED, UH, FOR MUNICIPAL SALES TAX.
TURS, THE SEVEN THAT I MENTIONED.
ESSENTIALLY WHAT HAPPENS IS EACH BUSINESS STILL COLLECTS ITS PROPERTY TAX.
THEY REMIT THAT TO THE STATE, UH, COMPTROLLER, THE COMPTROLLER REMITS, THE MUNICIPAL SALES TAX BACK TO THE CITY OR THE MUNICIPALITY, AND THEN THAT MUNICIPALITY WILL DIRECT, UH, THE APPROPRIATE AMOUNT TO THEIR TS UH, TO THEIR TIF FUND, FOR INSTANCE, IN OUR CASE.
UH, SO A PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD PROCESS.
SO WHY, UM, WHY A DART CITY TS ILA VERSUS, UM, WHAT I'VE JUST DESCRIBED TO YOU? UH, WELL, DART CURRENTLY CANNOT PARTICIPATE IN A TS IS OUTLINED IN CHAPTER THREE 11.
EARLY ON, UM, IN OUR DELIBERATION, WE WERE CONSIDERING POTENTIAL CHANGES TO EITHER CHAPTER THREE 11 OR CHAPTER, UH, 4 52, WHICH GARY COULD SPEAK MUCH MORE KNOWLEDGEABLY ABOUT.
BUT CHAPTER 4 52 IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT, UM, KIND OF, UH, DICTATES DART'S, UM, OPERATING, UM, UH, METHOD, UH, QUICKLY REALIZED THAT THAT COULD BE PROBLEMATIC.
AND SO WE, WE PIVOTED TO THIS I IDEA OF AN ILA, UM, AND DART BEING ABLE TO, UH, CREATE A MASTER IILA THAT THEY COULD ENTER INTO WITH THE 13 CITIES AND THEN THE CITIES, UM, BEING ABLE TO ENTER INTO KIND OF, UH, MORE SPECIFIC AGREEMENTS WITH DART THROUGH A LETTER OF CONCURRENCE BETWEEN THE CEO AND THE CITY MANAGER, FOR INSTANCE.
AND SO THINK ABOUT, UM, SOME OF OUR, UM, THREE 80 AGREEMENTS WHERE WE'VE KIND OF CREATED QUASI ITFS, IF YOU WILL, UH, THROUGH A THREE 80.
THIS IS GONNA CREATE A, A QUASI, UH, TURS THROUGH AN ILA.
AND UM, AND OF COURSE THE, THE GOALS OF THE, OF THE TURS, UH, ILA FOR, FOR DARKNESS MEMBER CITIES IS OBVIOUSLY WE WERE REALLY ENCOURAGING DART TO FIND MORE WAYS TO BECOME AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PARTNER.
SO FIRST, AND WANT, FIRST AND FOREMOST, THE PARTNERSHIP.
UM, WE WANTED TO STREAMLINE THE PROCESS.
I MENTIONED TO YOU THAT THIS ILA, THERE'LL BE A MASTER ILA AS LONG AS I LIKE TO USE THE, THE ANALOGY OF AS LONG AS WE STAY WITHIN THE GOALPOST, THE DART BOARD DOESN'T HAVE TO REVIEW THIS AGAIN.
SO THIS WILL ALLOW US TO KIND OF REACT AT THE SPEED OF BUSINESS LIKE WE CAN DO LOCALLY HERE, UM, AND COUNT ON DART'S, UH, DOLLAR DART'S CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE, TO THE PROJECT SALES AND PROPERTY TAX GROWTH.
OBVIOUSLY OUR GOAL, UM, OBVIOUSLY A BIG GOAL IS TO INCREASE, UH, TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT.
AS YOU'LL SEE, UM, THESE TURS ARE, UM, IDEALLY LOCATED, UH, WHERE YOU HAVE TRANSIT ANCHORS.
AND, AND SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A SECOND.
SO INCREASING RIDERSHIP AND THEN, UH, OBVIOUSLY THE ABILITY TO, UH, ATTRACT AND RETAIN.
NOW, I DO WANNA MENTION, 'CAUSE UH, IT WAS IMPORTANT TO A COUPLE OF THE CITIES, WHILE WE'LL HAVE THESE GOALPOSTS IN PLACE AND, UM, UNDER THE MASTER ILAA TOURS, PARTICIPATION BY DART WILL BE ALLOWED BY WRIGHT.
IF SOMETHING DOES FALL OUTSIDE OF THAT GOALPOST, THE DART BOARD WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO CONSIDER THOSE AS ONE-OFFS.
AND SO IF YOU HAVE A VERY UNIQUE GU THAT COMES ALONG THAT DOESN'T KIND OF FIT THAT CRITERIA, THERE'S A WAY, UH, TO ADDRESS THAT.
SO, UM, WE ALL KNOW HOW A TIFF WORKS, A TURS WORK IN THIS CASE.
YOU CAN SEE THE BASE VALUE HERE.
UM, IS, IS WHAT, UH, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT HOW THE BASE VALUE IS SET IN JUST A SECOND.
SO, UM, A COUPLE SLIDES FROM NOW.
AND SO WHAT WE'RE PROPO, WHAT WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED IS, OBVIOUSLY DART WOULD RETAIN THAT BASE VALUE OF SALES TAX WITHIN THAT AREA, BUT ALL OF THE INCREMENT, THE GROWTH FROM THE DATE THAT BASE VALUE IS SET COULD BE SHARED BY BOTH THE CITY AND DART.
UM, AND THEN AT THE END OF THE 10 YEAR TERM, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A SECOND, ALL OF THE SALES TAX WOULD BE, WOULD BE RETURNED TO DART.
SO JUST FOR A HYPOTHETICAL HERE, YOU CAN SEE THE BASE VALUE IS A MILLION.
IF YOU, IF YOU HAD, UH, AND, YOU KNOW, YEAR ONE OF THE TURS, IF YOU HAD A DEVELOPMENT THAT CAME ALONG AND INCREASED THAT TO A 5 MILLION, YOU SUBTRACT THE BASE THAT LEAVES 4 MILLION AND THE DART AND THE CITY WOULD SHARE.
SO WE WOULD, IN, IN THEORY IN THIS CASE, WE'D HAVE $2 MILLION CONTRIBUTED TO, UM, OUR FUND BALANCE, UH, IN AND OUR TIFF OR ANOTHER, UH, ACCOUNT TO BE ABLE TO USE, UH, FOR PURPOSES THAT ARE OUTLINED.
NOW, WITH RESPECT TO THAT, THAT BASE VALUE, THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF A COMPLICATED CHART AND UM, UH, CAITLIN DID A REALLY NICE JOB OF, OF DEMONSTRATING THIS.
THE POINT HERE IS THIS, UM, SETTING THE BASE VALUE, UM, IS, IS GONNA BE EITHER ACCOMPLISHED IN ONE OF TWO WAYS.
UM, FROM THE TIME THAT THE CITY REQUESTS THE ACTIVATION OF DART'S PARTICIPATION, YOU COULD GO BACK FROM THAT POINT
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12 MONTHS IN TIME AND YOU WOULD TAKE, UM, THE TOTAL REMITTANCE FOR THAT YEAR, LESS ANY SIGNIFICANT ADJUSTMENTS LIKE WE DO.SO THINK OF IT AS OUR BASE TO BASE, FOR INSTANCE, AND THAT WOULD BE THE BASE YEAR.
NOW, HOWEVER, DART WISELY, SO THINKING, UM, THAT IN THIS CASE, FOR INSTANCE, IT, IF YOU WENT BACK TWO YEARS AND YOU HAD A SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENT, THAT DEVELOPMENT WAS RAISED, FOR INSTANCE, AND THE ACTIVITY, THE SALES TAX ACTIVITIES STOPPED FOR THE REMAINING YEARS, UM, DART WOULD ACT, DART HAS THE POTENTIAL TO ACTUALLY LOSE MONEY.
'CAUSE IT WOULDN'T BE JUST ABOUT THE INCREMENT THERE, IT WOULD BE A RESET IN THE RESET BECAUSE YOU WOULD HAVE THAT DOWN YEAR WHERE THERE WAS NO SALES TAX ACTIVITY COULD BE ZERO.
UM, SO THEY WOULD ACTUALLY BE LOSING ONE OF THE KEY GOALS AND ONE OF THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES, UM, AND GARY, UM, AND IT WAS IN MANY CON AND MEDU, UH, UM, UM, UM, WE'RE IN MANY CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAD WITH NADINE ABOUT, THIS ISN'T ABOUT DART LOSING ANYTHING.
DART HAS TO REMAIN WHOLE FOR THE REVENUE THAT THEY HAVE.
WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS SHARING IN THE INCREMENTAL GROWTH OF REVENUE.
AND SO THIS, UM, AND IF I NEED TO ELABORATE, I'M LOOKING AT A COUPLE FACES, I MIGHT, IF I NEED TO ELABORATE ON THIS A LITTLE MORE, WELL, LET ME DO THAT THEN.
LET'S TAKE AN EXAMPLE OF TODAY.
OKAY? SO IN 2025, UM, THIS IS A LITTLE HARDER TO IMAGINE IN RICHARDSON, BUT YOU GOTTA REMEMBER ALL OF DART CITIES, RIGHT? SO LET'S SAY A TERRAZA SET UP, AND RIGHT NOW THERE'S AN ACTIVE BUSINESS.
LET'S SAY IT'S, LET'S SAY IT'S A DISTRIBUTION BUSINESS WHERE ALL THE SALES FROM THAT POINT IS ARE BEING SOURCED BACK TO THAT THATT AREA.
WELL, A LARGER REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT COMES, THAT BUSINESS MOVES TO ANOTHER LOCATION THAT RE SO THAT SALES TAX MOVES OUTTA THAT GEOGRAPHIC BOUNDARY.
SO IF IT TAKES TWO OR THREE YEARS TO REDEVELOP THAT, THAT THATT AREA, YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE ANY SALES TAX.
SO IF YOU ONLY LOOK BACK ONE YEAR, YOU'RE GONNA DART'S, UH, THE, THE BASELINE WOULD BE ZERO SALES TAX OR VERY LITTLE SALES TAX.
WHAT DART'S TRYING TO DO IS TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, AND AGAIN, I THINK THIS IS RIGHTLY SO, TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY DON'T HAVE THAT RESET THAT ACTUALLY HAS US, UM, UM, EATING INTO EATING INTO THEIR EXISTING TAX BASE.
NOW, YOU COULD SAY, WELL, IT COULD GO BACK LONGER THAN TWO YEARS.
BUT WE FELT, ALONG WITH DART, WE FELT LIKE LOOKING AT THAT SECOND YEAR, WE'D BE GOING BACK AND FAR ENOUGH.
SO THE BASE WILL BE THE HIGHER OF THE TWO.
SO IF, IF YOU GO BACK TWO YEARS AND THAT'S A HIGHER, THAT'S A HIGHER SALES TAX BASE, BECAUSE ONCE, LIKE IN THAT EXAMPLE, FOR INSTANCE, THAT BUSINESS MOVE AND THAT THAT REDEVELOPMENT OCCURRED, YOU WOULD ACTUALLY TAKE THE HIGHER OF THE TWO.
AND THAT'S A WAY TO TRY TO HELP DART PROTECT SOME OF ITS EXISTING, UM, EX EXISTING REVENUE AND FOCUSING THE SHARING ON THE GROWTH.
UM, SO HOW WILL THIS PROCESS WORK? AS I MENTIONED, UH, THE FIRST KEY STEP IS THAT THE CITY, UM, UH, THAT THE CITY AND DART WILL, UM, INTO, INTO, INTO AN ILA.
UM, THE GOAL IS BY, AS YOU'LL SEE, BY THE END OF MAY, THE DART BOARD WILL AUTHORIZE, UH, THE TEMPLATE ILA OR THE ILA TEMPLATE DART AND THE CITY WOULD ENTER INTO TO THIS ILA FOR FIVE YEARS.
SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT THE CITY COULD CREATE, OR THE CITY COULD, UH, APPLY, UH, EITHER OUR CURRENT TIPS ONE, TWO, OR THREE.
OH, WE COULD CREATE A NEW, UH, T FOR UP TO FIVE YEARS.
AND FROM THE TIME THAT WE ACTIVATE THAT DART'S CONTRIBUTION WOULD BE, UH, WOULD BE FROM THAT POINT FORWARD FOR 10 YEARS.
AND SO THE ILA ALLOWS US FIVE YEARS TO EITHER CREATE OR BRING IN ONE OF OUR TIFS, UH, TO PARTICIPATE.
UM, THE CITY SUBMITS SOME DOCUMENTATION AND THINGS LIKE A PROJECT PLAN AND PROJECT FUND.
AND, AND A LOT, A LOT OF THOSE DETAILS STILL TO BE WORKED OUT BETWEEN THE CITIES AND DART.
BUT ULTIMATELY WE'VE GOTTA MAKE DART CONFIDENT THAT YOU KNOW, THAT THE, THE, THE PLAN AROUND THE TOURISTS MAKES SENSE.
DART WOULD APPROVE THE TF FOR PARTICIPATION.
AND THEN, AS I MENTIONED TO YOU, UM, AS WE BEGIN TO GET INTO SPECIFIC PROJECTS OR BEGIN TO GET INTO SPECIFIC, SPECIFIC GEOGRAPHIC AREAS, 'CAUSE IT'S ENTIRELY POSSIBLE THAT WE COULD HAVE SUB AREAS OF OUR EXISTING TIFS, OR AS KENT AND I WERE DESCRIBING EARLIER, WE MIGHT WANNA TAKE TIF, TIF, OUR CURRENT TIF TWO AND THREE AND MAKE THAT ONE GEOGRAPHIC AREA.
UM, BECAUSE THERE'S, THERE MAY BE CERTAIN BENEFITS TO THAT, BUT, UH, THE, FROM THIS POINT FORWARD, UM, THE, UH, DART PRESIDENT, CEO AND THE CITY MANAGER WOULD BE ABLE TO ENTER INTO A LETTER OF CONCURRENCE.
AND THAT LETTER OF CONCURRENCE WOULD SET THE BASE VALUE AS WELL AS SET DART'S PARTICIPATION.
SO WHAT PERCENT WOULD THEY PARTICIPATE? FOR THE MOST PART, THE VAST MAJORITY OF SITUATIONS, UH, DART'S MAXIMUM PARTICIPATION WOULD BE 50%.
THERE ARE SOME, UM, AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE ONE THAT WOULD APPLY THE ARAPAHO STATION WHERE IF THERE'S A FEDERAL RAIL ADMINISTRATION DOLLARS INVOLVED, UH, THERE ARE MORE, THERE ARE MORE REQUIREMENTS INVOLVED.
AND SO DART MIGHT BE WILLING TO GO UP TO 55 OR 60% UNDER THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES.
WAY MORE DETAIL THAN WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT FOR, FOR WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.
BUT JUST KNOW THAT I MENTIONED, UM, ONCE WE ENTER INTO THAT LETTER OF CONCURRENCE, UH, WE PROVIDE DART 30 DAYS NOTIFICATION, AND THAT'S
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WHEN THEY START TO, UH, REMIT THE SALES TAX BACK TO US.AND THEY DO THAT FOR UP TO 10 YEARS, UH, JUST A LITTLE BIT, UH, HOW THIS WOULD WORK.
THE COMPTROLLER WOULD ACTUALLY, UM, WOULD ACTUALLY SUBMIT THE MONTHLY SALES TAX REPORTS TO DART, DART WOULD CALCULATE THE INCREMENT DUE, AND THEN THEY WOULD DART WOULD PROVIDE US THAT FUNDING ON A QUARTERLY BASIS.
SO ALL OF ALL OF THAT AUDITING WORK, ALL OF THAT CONFIRMATION STAYS WITH DART.
THE ONLY RESPONSIBILITY WE WOULD HAVE IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DOLLARS WE USE FOR ELIGIBLE PROJECTS, AND THEN WE WOULD BE, WE WOULD PARTICIPATE IN AN AUDIT DART TO PROVE THAT UP.
SO AT THE END OF THE YEAR, AS WE USE THE DOLLARS FOR EXPENDITURES, THERE'S ALSO THE REQUIREMENT.
UH, THERE WOULD ALSO BE THE REQUIREMENT THAT FOR EVERY DARK DOLLAR WE SPEND, WE MATCH THAT WITH A CITY DOLL, UH, A CITY DOLLAR.
AND THAT COULD COME FROM A VARIETY OF SOURCES.
THAT COULD COME FROM TIFF, UH, FUND BALANCE, FROM THE PROPERTY TAX, UH, STRATEGY WE USE.
NOW, WE COULD, UH, EVALUATE SALES TAX, OR IT COULD COME FROM A COMPLETELY SEPARATE FUND.
DART IS PROVIDING CITIES WITH MAXIMUM FLEXIBILITY AROUND WHERE THE MATCH COMES FROM.
BUT THEY DID FEEL, UM, UM, AND, AND, AND THAT IT WAS IMPORTANT THAT IT WAS A, A MATCH BETWEEN THE CITY AND DART AN EQUAL MATCH BETWEEN THE CITY AND DART TO TRY TO, UH, PULL OFF SOME OF THESE PROJECTS HERE.
AND THEN YOU CAN SEE OBVIOUSLY THE, IT ENDS WITH A, A 10 YEAR TERM OR A TERMINATION ILA OR A SUSPENSION OF PAYMENTS FOR ONE OF THE REASONS I'LL MENTION IN A SECOND.
SO WHAT COULD WE, UM, WHAT COULD WE USE THIS, THESE, THESE, UM, DOLLARS FOR? WELL, FIRST, UM, AS I MENTIONED, UH, THE, UH, TURS HAS TO INCLUDE WHAT IS BEING REFERRED TO AS A TRANSIT ANCHOR.
UH, YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE TRANSIT ANCHOR.
IT COULD BE A STATION, A TRANSIT CENTER, A PARKING RIDE, AN ENHANCED BUS SHELTER, OR EVEN A GO LINK WITH CERTAIN SIGNAGE.
UM, THERE WAS SOME, UM, THERE WAS SOME, UM, ANGST AROUND, UM, REDEVELOPMENT AREAS BY SOME OF THE CITIES.
AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE THIS STORY AS MUCH AS SOME OF THE OTHER CITIES, BUT THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IF ONE TRANSIT ANCHOR A, UH, TRANSIT ANCHOR THAT MAYBE WASN'T, UM, UH, PERFORMING AT A HIGH LEVEL, IF THEY WANTED TO CHANGE THAT ANCHOR FOR A DIFFERENT TYPE OF, UH, TRANSPORTATION, UH, STRATEGY, THAT THEY COULD DO THAT WITHOUT BEING PENALIZED.
AND SO, UH, THIS IS THE WAY TO TRY TO, TO TRY TO GET AT THAT.
UM, UM, YOU CAN SEE, UM, AS YOU CAN SEE THERE, YOU CAN SUBSTITUTE A TRANSIT ANCHOR WITH A TRANSIT FACILITY, UH, AT ANOTHER LOCATION WITHIN THE ZONE.
SO IT DOESN'T EVEN, LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, IF WE WERE USING TIF ONE AND WE WANTED TO SAY ARAPAHOE IS OUR ANCHOR, BUT FOR SOME REASON THAT DIDN'T COME TO FRUITION, WE COULD, UM, STILL MAYBE USE SPRING VALLEY FOR INSTANCE.
SO IT WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE TIED TO JUST THE ONE.
AND THEN WHAT COULD THE FUNDS BE USED FOR? UM, SO, UM, YOU MAY RECALL A COUPLE YEARS AGO WHEN DART HAD, UM, UH, DART RETURNED SOME OF THE DOLLARS TO CITIES THROUGH, UM, UH, UH, UM, I FORGET THE, THE TRANSIT, UH, PROGRAM, UM, UH, WHERE WE WERE THE BENEFACTOR OF ABOUT $16 MILLION.
UH, ANYTHING THAT'S ELIGIBLE UNDER CHAPTER 4 52, WE COULD USE THESE DOLLARS FOR, SO STREET MAINTENANCE, SIDEWALK TRAFFIC LIGHTS, PARKING GARAGES AT TOD SITES, UH, TOD PROJECT COSTS.
SO FOR INSTANCE, UM, AS WE ENTER INTO A, UH, MASTER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND WE EXECUTE THE GROUND LEASE FOR DART, WE COULD ACTUALLY USE SOME OF THESE DOLLARS TO OFFSET THE COST, OUR COST OF GROUND LEASING, THE 14 ACRES AT A ARAPAHO STATION, AND THEN WE COULD UTILIZE THAT AND WE COULD UTILIZE THOSE SAVINGS IN A VARIETY OF WAYS AS WE LOOK FOR A, UH, MASTER DEVELOPMENT PARTNER.
SO, UH, NOT, THE IMPORTANT POINT HERE IS IT'S NOT THE SAME ELIGIBLE USES AS WE HAVE IN OUR TIFF NECESSARILY.
SOME OVERLAP, UM, MUCH MORE TRANSIT AND MOBILITY FOCUSED.
NONETHELESS, UM, GOOD RESOURCES TO BE ABLE TO APPLY, PARTICULARLY AS WE, AS WE LOOK TO REDEVELOP AROUND SOME OF OUR, UM, OUR STATIONS.
UM, A COUPLE OF WAYS YOU WOULD, YOU WOULD NOT BE ELIGIBLE FOR THIS.
YOU CAN SEE THERE, UH, THESE ARE PRETTY OBVIOUS.
I MEAN, IF A COUNCIL APPROVES A RESOLUTION FOR A, UM, A PULLOUT ELECTION, IF YOU OWE DART MORE THAN $500,000 AND IN DEBT, UM, UM, REMOVAL OF SERVICE AT AN ANCHOR TRANSIT FACILITY AT THE CITY'S DISCRETION, THIS IS IMPORTANT.
THIS WAS AN INTERESTING QUESTION.
IF DART DECIDES TO STOP PROVIDING SERVICE, WOULD THAT IMPACT OUR ABILITY TO PARTICIPATE? AND IT'S NO, IT HAS TO BE, THE CITY MAKES THE DECISION TO CHANGE ONE OF THOSE TRANSIT ANCHORS WITHIN AN AREA.
UM, AND, UM, AND THEN FINALLY, UM, UM, CITY HAS TERMINATED ITS DART MEMBERSHIP OR HAS BREACHED THE OTHER TERMINATION, AND THIS PROBABLY GOES WITHOUT SAYING, IS, UM, IF, UH, HB UH, 31 87, UH, IS PASSED AND DART LOSES ITS FUNDING THE 25% BILL, OBVIOUSLY NONE OF THIS IS, IS POSSIBLE.
AND ALL OF THIS, UH, GOOD WORK IS, IS, UH, IS FOR NAUGHT, UNFORTUNATELY.
BUT THOSE ARE THE DISQUALIFICATIONS.
JUST A QUICK EXAMPLE HERE, OBVIOUSLY, I, OUR TIF ONE, UM, AGAIN, YOU SEE, UM, UH, THE, THE TRANSIT ANCHORS, SPRING VALLEY, ARAPAHOE, AND, UM, UM, UH, POTENTIAL DART CONTRIBUTION BECAUSE ARAPAHOE IN PARTICULAR WAS PURCHASED WITH, UH, RFA DOLLARS AND THEY COMES WITH A LOT OF EXTRA, YOU KNOW, QUITE HONESTLY, A LOT OF EXTRA RED TAPE FOR
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US AND THE DEVELOPER TO WORK THROUGH DART WOULD BE WILLING TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE GENEROUS ON THE SALES TAX TO HELP US DEAL WITH SOME OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS THAT WOULD OTHERWISE NOT BE PART OF OUR DEVELOPMENT.UM, AND, UM, UH, SO YEAH, SO YOU SEE THE LAST BULLET THERE, JUST ABOUT THE 15 ACRES OR SO.
SO, UH, WHAT, WHAT, UH, THE PURPOSE OF TONIGHT'S BRIEFING WAS, UH, THIS, UH, BRIEFING, UH, MUCH MORE ELABORATE, UH, STYLE, UH, BRIEFING, UH, WILL BE PROVIDED TO THE DART BOARD TOMORROW.
UH, SOME OF THE OTHER CITY MANAGERS ARE ALSO BRIEFING OR HAVE BRIEFED IN THE LAST WEEK, AS I MENTIONED, IT WAS JUST APRIL 7TH WHEN WE FINALIZED ALL THE DEAL POINTS.
A DART BOARD WOULD VERY MUCH LIKE TO HEAR, UM, FROM COUNCILS ON, YOU KNOW, DO THEY LIKE THIS DIRECTION? ARE THEY HAPPY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, DART'S RESPONSE TO OUR APPEAL TO THEM TO BE A BIGGER PARTNER IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
SO AS GARY, AS YOU SEE HERE AND THE REST OF THE DART BOARD, UM, I BELIEVE, UH, TOMORROW WILL BE A, UM, A, A, A BRIEFING AND THEN THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE AND BOARD APPROVAL ON MAY 13TH AND 27TH, ALLOWING US POTENTIALLY, UH, QUITE FRANKLY, OF ALL CITIES, I BELIEVE TO LEVERAGE THIS.
UH, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TIMELINE OF OUR ARAPO STATION, RFP, THIS IS VERY EXCITING.
THIS IS A TOOL THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY NEVER ANTICIPATED, UM, THIS LITTLE AS SIX MONTHS AGO, REALLY NEVER ANTICIPATED HAVING AT OUR DISPOSAL AS WE NEGOTIATE A MA WITH A MASTER DEVELOPMENT, UH, PARTNER FOR, UH, RAPID STATION.
UM, AND THEN THE OTHER THING I'LL JUST SAY IS, UH, YOU KNOW, CITIES HAVE TO OPT INTO THE, UH, MASTER ILA BY THE END OF, UH, DECEMBER OF THIS YEAR.
AND DARK JUST WANTS, YOU KNOW, IT CAN'T BE THIS PERPETUAL THING WHERE, YOU KNOW, TWO, THREE YEARS LATER THEY'RE OPTING IN AND THEN THAT'S FIVE YEARS.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, THERE IS A BACKSTOP TO THIS, RIGHTLY SO.
UM, I THINK, I DON'T KNOW, I WOULD CALL THIS A PILOT PROGRAM, GARY, BUT, UM, IT'S, IT NEEDS TO HAVE SOME PARAMETERS SO THAT DARK AND BETTER APPRECIATE.
SO, UM, MAYOR, IF IT'S OKAY, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO, UM, UM, TO, UH, GARY AND SEE IF HE HAS ANYTHING WE'D LIKE TO ADD.
AND THEN I'LL HAPPY MYSELF OR GARY, I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
I THINK THIS IS A FABULOUS PROGRAM.
AND WHEN WE WERE WORKING ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO WHEN NADINE AND EDMUND COZA STARTED WORKING THROUGH OUR STRATEGIC PLAN THAT I, THE ITEM OF DART BEING A PARTICIPATION IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STARTED TO COME TO THE SURFACE.
AND THEN, UH, UH, DON AND THE MAYOR, THE MANAGER FROM IRVING KIND OF WORKED UP HOW THIS COULD WORK AND THEN STARTED TAKING IT TO, TO DART AND THE OTHER CITIES.
AND I SAT IN ON SOME OF THOSE EARLY MEETINGS.
I THINK IT'S REALLY GREAT BECAUSE THIS IS GOOD FOR DART AS WELL.
WHAT THIS WILL DO IS IF WE'RE SUCCESSFUL WITH IT, WE TAKE OUR MONEY TO HELP OUR SALES TAX GROW BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO DO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WHICH RESULTS IN SALES TAX, WHICH ALSO RESULTS IN MORE RIDERS.
AND, AND IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A WIN-WIN SITUATION FOR BOTH DART AND FOR THE CITY.
IT TOOK US A, A LITTLE WHILE TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE OUR STAFF FELT COMFORTABLE, BUT, BUT AFTER WE GOT INTO IT AND STARTED TALKING ABOUT IT WITH THE CITY MANAGERS, IT WAS REALLY GREAT BECAUSE IT DOES, YOU KNOW, WE DID A, I THINK WE DID THIS.
YOU, YOU MIGHT REMEMBER, MIGHT NOT, I'M, OR I MIGHT BE MAKING IT UP, BUT I THINK WHEN WE REDID RICHARDSON SQUARE MALL, WE DID EXPERIMENT WITH SOME SALES TAX GROWTH REBATE.
AND SO I, I WAS ABLE TO USE THAT EXAMPLE WITH SOME OF THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD JUST TO SAY, WE'VE DONE THIS.
IT'S, IT'S SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU WOULD DO WITH, WITH REAL ESTATE AND, AND PROPERTY TAX, BUT IT'S, IT'S JUST ANOTHER SOURCE OF REVENUE FOR THE CITIES, BUT IT'S GOOD FOR THE REGION AND IT'S GOOD FOR THE, THE, THE, UH, DART SERVICE AREA BECAUSE ALL CITIES IN, IN SOME WAY CAN PARTICIPATE IN THIS.
AND SO, UH, WE, WE TALK ABOUT IT EVERY TIME WE GO OUT AND NOT TO TALK TO THE CITIES, AND I THINK THERE'S BEEN SOME REAL POSITIVE REACTION TO IT.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE, YEAH, IF, IF, IF THE LEGISLATION PASSES AND WE DON'T WANNA HAVE PASSED, THEN, THEN IT PROBABLY WON'T GO INTO EFFECT.
BUT, BUT WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN EITHER.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE MARCHING IN THIS DIRECTION, AND I, I THINK IT TELLS THE CITIES, ALL THE CITIES AS WELL AS OUR LEGISLATURE, THAT, THAT WE'RE REALLY WORKING HARD TO TRY TO MAKE THINGS BETTER FOR THE REGION AND MAKE TRANSIT BE A PART OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY.
IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE IN, AND I, AND THIS REALLY HIT ME WHEN, WHEN I, WHEN MAYOR STOFER FROM IRVING TOLD ME ABOUT IT, BUT HE SAID WHEN THEY DID THE MUSIC FACTORY IN IRVING, IN LAS COLINAS, THEY COMMITTED THEIR SALES TAX THE WHOLE THING TO THAT ORGANIZATION.
THAT WAS A WAY THEY GOT THEM TO COME IN AND IT, IT WAS ALL THEIR SALES TAX FOR A LONG TIME,
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TAX FROM THAT PROJECT THAT THEY SET UP AND THEY PUT MONEY INTO, AND THEY'RE NOT, AND IT'S LIKE RICK WOULD SAY, WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING TO BALANCE THIS OUT, MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE FAIR.I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WANNA GET RID OF ALL OUR SALES TAX FOR A HUNDRED YEARS, BUT, OR WHATEVER IT WAS,
BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE IT SET UP, THESE GUYS HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SET IT UP SO THERE CAN BE CONVERSATION IF THERE'S A, IF THERE'S A LARGE CORPORATION OR A LARGE ENTITY COMING INTO ONE OF THE CITIES AND REGION, AND WE'D HOPE THAT THEY WOULD ALL BE COMING TO RICHARDSON.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IF THERE, AS THAT HAPPENS, WE NEED TO BE A PART OF THAT, WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO, UH, BE A MAJOR PLAYER IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S JUST A VERY POSITIVE THING.
AND, UH, WE'LL, I, I THINK WE'VE BEEN BRINGING OUR, OUR BOARD ALONG WITH IT SO THAT THEY ALL KNOW THAT IT'S OUT THERE AND OUR GOAL TO GET THIS THING DONE IN, IN MAY IS REALLY IMPORTANT SO THAT THESE GUYS CAN START PUTTING SOME MORE MEAT AROUND THE BONE ON THIS THING.
AND, UH, AND WE CAN REALLY HAVE IT BE A PART OF WHAT WE DO AT DART.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MYSELF, THE MAYOR, OR DON, PLEASE BE FREE.
UM, DON, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS.
I THINK IT'S REALLY, REALLY GREAT.
AND YOU ASKED FOR FEEDBACK, AND SO I, I JUST WANNA ENCOURAGE, UH, YOU, GARY, AS THE PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD AND TELL YOU THAT I THINK THIS IS GREAT.
I HOPE OUR STATE LEGISLATOR LEGISLATORS ARE LISTENING.
UM, THIS IS A PRIME EXAMPLE OF HOW IN WHAT, JUST SIX MONTHS WE CAN HAVE, UH, A REGIONAL AGREEMENT, UM, AMONGST CITY MANAGERS AND ALSO DART WORKING TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR TRANSIT IS, UH, YOU KNOW, GONNA BE SOUND GOING FORWARD AND THAT EVERYBODY BENEFITS FROM IT, RIGHT? YEAH.
THIS, THIS CAN BE DONE ON A REGIONAL LEVEL.
UM, AND SO I REALLY HOPE THAT THEY'RE LISTENING.
UM, I REALLY THINK IT'S GREAT TOO.
IT'S A BIG COMPONENT OF, UH, TRANSIT 2.0 IS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN TRANSIT.
THIS IS A PRIME EXAMPLE OF HOW THIS FITS INTO THAT, AGAIN, FROM A REGIONAL PERSPECTIVE.
SO I, I REALLY THINK THIS IS JUST REALLY FANTASTIC AND REALLY ILLUSTRATES WHAT CAN BE DONE WHEN YOU SORT OF SIT AROUND A TABLE AND REALLY TALK ABOUT SOLUTIONS AND, AND NOT JUST SORT OF COMPLAIN ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE UNHAPPY ABOUT, BUT ACTUALLY BRING SOLUTIONS TO THE TABLE.
UM, AND IT'S REALLY A SYMBIOTIC RELATIONSHIP.
AS YOU SAID, YOU, YOU BENEFIT DARK BENEFIT FROM A SALES TAX PERSPECTIVE, THE CITY'S BENEFIT FROM A SALES TAX PERSPECTIVE.
AND I, YOU KNOW, GOOD WORK DONE.
I KNOW THAT THIS COULD NOT HAVE BEEN EASY.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD ENOUGH TO GET THE SEVEN OF US DEGREE ON ANYTHING
AND SO I'M SURE GETTING MULTIPLE CITY MANAGERS TO DO IT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY A TESTAMENT TO YOUR LEADERSHIP AND, AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR DOING THAT.
AND YEAH, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO TAKE IT FORWARD AND, AND I THINK THIS IS A REALLY GREAT THING FOR OUR REGION.
I, UM, I THOUGHT THE SAME THING AS COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE.
IT'S LIKE, LOOK, WE CAN ALL AGREE ON SOMETHING ACTUALLY, RIGHT? AND, UM, CHAIRMAN SLASH MAYOR SLAGEL
AND SO TS ARE ALSO NOT INTENDED, YOU KNOW, FROM OUR MINDSET TO BE A HUNDRED YEAR THINGS, RIGHT? MM-HMM
THEY'RE THERE TO FULFILL A VERY SPECIFIC PURPOSE TO BUILD UP THE ECONOMY AROUND A CERTAIN AREA.
AND SO WE'RE ALL APPROACHING IT FROM THE SAME ANGLE THERE.
AND I REALLY DON, I MEAN, I THINK THIS IS GREAT.
I THINK THIS SOLVES SORT OF OUR ORIGINAL FOR A FOUR B DISCREPANCY PROBLEMS, AND IT MAKES US A LOT MORE COMPETITIVE WITH THE CITIES AND COLLIN COUNTY THAT DON'T HAVE SORT OF THE SAME ALLOCATION TO DART.
UM, IT'S JUST A BRILLIANT IDEA.
AND I KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU KIND OF FLOATED TO ALL OF US, UM, LAST FALL, AND SO IT'S AWESOME TO SEE YOU ACTUALLY HAVING FLESHED THIS OUT IN SUCH A, A ROBUST AND WELL THOUGHT OUT WAY.
SO I JUST HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS, UM, REAL QUICK.
MOSTLY FOR, MOSTLY FOR GARY, UM, JUST AS FAR AS CITIES THAT HAVE HALF A MILLION OF UNPAID DEBT TO DART, ARE THERE CITIES RIGHT NOW THAT HAVE THAT MUCH UNPAID DEBT TO DART? I DON'T THINK SO.
UM, AND THEN NUMBER TWO, THIS IS, I ASSUME THIS IS IN ADDITION TO THE OTHER THREE SORT OF MAJOR CHANGES THAT DART IS APPROVED, RIGHT? THE 5%, UH, SALES TAX? YEAH, THIS, WE'RE KEEPING THEM SEPARATE.
WE BE, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH THE OTHERS.
NOBODY'S TAKEN US UP ON IT YET.
BUT, BUT THIS IS, I MEAN, THERE WE HAVE LAID OUT A NUMBER OF THINGS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AND WE'VE THAT WE THINK HELP THE REGION AND HELP OUR CITIES.
AND SO, BUT THIS ONE I WANNA HAVE HAPPEN AND HAVE IT ON ITS OWN TRACK TO SHOW THAT WE CAN DO SOMETHING AND, AND CREATE BINDING ILAS, WHICH, WHICH SOME CITIES MAY NOT THINK WE CAN DO, BUT WE CAN, IT'S A LEGALLY BINDING DOCUMENT AND WE'LL DO IT.
NO, I, I TOTALLY RESPECT THE DIRECTION YOU WANNA TAKE ON THAT.
UM, AND THEN FINALLY, IS US JUST GIVING A BIG THUMBS UP HERE, UH, IS THAT SUFFICIENT FOR YOU OR IS THERE ANOTHER WAY YOU WANT US TO GIVE FEEDBACK TO YOUR BOARD MEMBERS? WELL, AT THIS POINT IN TIME, A BIG THUMBS UP, IT'D REALLY BE GOOD
WE CAN JUST DO THAT
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UH, DON, LAST LAST THING, JUST JUST TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET INTO SPECIFIC CITIES, BUT ALL CITY MANAGERS AGREED TO THIS IN CONCEPT, BUT NOT ALL ARE GIVING PRESENTATIONS TO THEIR COUNCIL, IS THAT CORRECT? RIGHT.
ALL, ALL CITY MANAGERS CAME TOGETHER, UM, AND, UM, I DON'T THINK THERE WAS ANY DISAGREEMENT ABOUT THE TERMS, UH, BUT ONLY, UH, A SELECT NUMBER OF CITY MANAGERS FROM THE COMMITTEE WERE ASKED TO PRESENT IT.
UM, JUST TO GET THAT GAIN, THAT INITIAL FEEDBACK FOR THE BOARD.
UM, BUT I, I WOULD SUSPECT AFTER TOMORROW, UH, GARY, I THINK YOU, YOU, YOU'RE BEING THE BOARD'S BEING BRIEFED TOMORROW, UM, RIGHT.
I THINK AFTER THAT MAYBE SOME OTHER CITIES WILL START TAKING IT TO THEIR, THEIR, UM, COUNCILS AS WELL IN ADVANCE OF THAT, UH, 13TH AND 27TH DATE OF MAY.
I APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION.
UH, GREAT JOB, DON, AND ALL THE OTHERS THAT WORKED ON THIS.
UH, GARY, QUICK CONGRATULATIONS.
I SAW SOMETHING ON THE NEWS ABOUT ADDISON AND THE SILVER LINE, UH, GETTING TO WORK OVER THERE, SO CONGRATS ON THAT.
I KNOW MOVING FORWARD IS ALWAYS EXCITE, THERE'S ALWAYS EXCITEMENT AROUND THAT, AND IT'S NOT A ALWAYS EASY, SO YEAH.
UM, ESPECIALLY IN, IN THESE TIMES AS THERE'S DISCUSSION AROUND THINGS LIKE THIS.
I DO HAVE A COUPLE, UM, KIND OF CLARIFYING QUESTIONS.
SO ON THE SLIDE THAT'S TITLED, TRANSIT REQUIREMENTS FOR DARK CONTRIBUTION, THE FIRST SUB BULLET POINT THAT SAYS STATION TRANSIT, CENTER PARK AND RIDE ENHANCED BUS SHELTER AND GO LINK, RALLY POINT.
CAN, ONE OF YOU MAY BE SPEAK TO, WHAT IS IT, AN ENHANCED BUS SHELTER IN GOLDLINK? I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT LIKE WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN I'M THINKING OF AREAS AND WHERE THIS COULD BE USED.
I THINK IT'S ANYTHING WHERE, UH, YOU KNOW, MAYBE NOT A, MAYBE YOU WOULDN'T DO IT WITH A BUS STOP, BUT YOU WOULD DO IT IF YOU BUILT, IF THERE'S A DEVELOPMENT THAT'S HAPPENING AND IT'S BEING BUILT WITH, WITH DART TRANSIT IN MIND, WHETHER IT'S ALONG THE RAIL STATION OR WHETHER IT'S, UH, IT, IT MAY BE BUSES THAT WILL SERVE THAT AREA, THEY WOULD QUALIFY.
SO, OH, SO IT'S NOT LIKE A RANDOM BUS STOP WITH A SHELTER THAT'S NOT AN NO, IT'S, IT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE MORE SUBSTANTIAL, BUT, BUT YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF OUR AREAS WHERE THEY WERE, TRANSIT HASN'T BEEN A PART OF A MAJOR DEVELOPMENT, BUT IT COULD BE SO THAT WE, AS THAT DEVELOPMENT STARTS TO INCREASE IN SIZE AND, AND GROWS AND TRANSIT BECOMES A KEY ELEMENT IN THAT ONE, AND THEN IT WOULD QUALIFY.
SO IT'S, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT INTENDED TO MAKE THIS HARD TO DO THOUGH.
BY THE WAY, WE'VE, WE'VE TALKED TO CITIES WITH ALL KINDS OF IDEAS AND WE'LL TRY TO MAKE THEM WORK IF WE CAN RIGHT NOW.
AND DON, THIS MIGHT, I DON'T KNOW, THIS MIGHT BE A YOU QUESTION, BUT THAT LAST BULLET POINT, WHICH SAYS, DART SALES TAX FUNDS MUST BE USED IN WAYS, AND THEN YOU HAVE A SUB BULLET POINT, SO STREET MAINTENANCE SIDEWALKS, AND IT GOES ON, DOES THE MONEY IT MUST BE USED JUST FOR THOSE ANYWHERE IN THE GEOGRAPHIC AREAS, OR ANYWHERE WITHIN THE CITY, OR DOES IT HAVE TO BE WITHIN THAT GEOGRAPHIC AREA OF THE TUR? YES, THE LADDER WITHIN THE, THE GEOGRAPHICAL AREA OF THE, SO MONEY USED FOR THAT IF, OKAY.
SO IT HAS TO BE USED IN THAT BORDER, WITHIN THE PROPERTY OR THE BORDERING THE BORDER.
THE LAST, BUT NOT LEAST, I KNOW, OBVIOUSLY I SEE HOW THIS IS, YOU KNOW, AS SOMEBODY WHO'S ELECTED, UH, TO, TO, UH, FOR THE CITY, I SEE HOW THIS WOULD GREATLY BENEFIT SOME OF THE THINGS WE HAVE, UH, GOING DOWN THE ROAD, UM, AND HOW IT WOULD DEFINITELY BENEFIT US.
AND AS, AS COUNCILMAN CORCORAN MENTIONED, UH, UH, MAKE US A LITTLE MORE, I GUESS, UH, COMPETITIVE WITH SOME OF THE CITIES TO THE NORTH.
UM, HOLD ON, LET ME THINK HOW I'M GONNA ASK THIS.
WHAT, UH, UM, SORRY, I JUST LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT.
WE'RE GONNA, THE, UM, THE MONEY AS FAR AS LONG TERM, I CAN SEE HOW WHEN, WHEN WE CREATE SOMETHING LIKE THE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT, OBVIOUSLY THERE, BECAUSE IT INVOLVES TRANSIT, THERE'S AREAS OF DART SAY, OKAY, YOU MUST DO THIS TO DO A TRUE TOD, AND THEN THERE'S A RELATIONSHIP THAT HAPPENS THERE.
BUT DOES THIS IN ANY WAY CREATE LESS OF A SAY ON DART'S ABILITY TO WORK WITH US OR INCREASE THEIR ABILITY OR CHANGE ANY PART OF THAT RELATIONSHIP THAT GOES BACK AND FORTH WHEN WE LOOK AT A GIANT PROJECT LIKE ARAPO STATION OR ANYTHING THAT MAY COME DOWN IN THE FUTURE? NO, I, IT DEFINITELY DOESN'T CHANGE IT IN, UM, ANY KIND OF A NEGATIVE WAY.
I MEAN, IF, IF IT CHANGES, IN MY OPINION, UM, IT CHANGES IT IN A POSITIVE WAY BECAUSE I THINK, UM, WITH THE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES THAT WE COULD COUNT ON, WE COULD DO MORE TRANSIT AND MOBILITY,
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UH, INITIATIVES WITHIN A PROJECT.UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S SOMETIMES IT'S DIFFICULT TO, TO MAKE THAT PITCH TO A DEVELOPER THAT THEY SHOULD DO THAT, YOU KNOW, RIGHT FROM THE BEGINNING.
BUT IF THEY KNOW THAT THESE DOLLARS ARE DOLLARS WILL BE ELIGIBLE FOR THAT, WE COULD DEFINITELY, UH, INCENTIVIZE MORE, UH, TRANSIT AND MOBILITY, UH, DESIGN, UH, SERVICES, UM, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE SHUTTLES, FOR INSTANCE, OR, SO I, I, I FEEL LIKE IT CHANGES IT IN A VERY POSITIVE WAY AND ACTUALLY MAKES IT OPENS UP, UM, PARTICULARLY FROM THE DEVELOPER'S, UH, VIEWPOINT.
IT, IT, IT PROVIDES, UM, AN, IT PROVIDES MORE OF AN INCENTIVE TO DO SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT THEY MIGHT OTHERWISE SAY, WELL, THAT DOESN'T REALLY PENCIL OUT FOR ME.
THEY CAN SAY, WELL, YOU CAN DO IT BECAUSE THESE DOLLARS ARE VALUE AVAILABLE TO YOU.
THEY WOULDN'T OTHERWISE BE AVAILABLE TO YOU UNLESS, UNLESS YOU WERE, YOU WERE FOCUSING ON THESE KINDS OF IMPROVEMENTS.
IT DOESN'T TIE OUR HANDS IN ANY WAY THAT WOULDN'T HAVE EXISTED PRIOR TO THAT.
I LOVE THE LONG TIME, THE LONG TERM THINKING ON IT.
UH, I CAN DEFINITELY SEE HOW THIS IS SMART GOING 10 YEARS OUT.
I THINK IN THE SHORT TERM, I, IF I WERE ON, ON YOUR BOARD, I WOULD BE LIKE, WELL, WHAT ABOUT THE NEXT EIGHT YEARS BEFORE SOME OF THESE PROJECTS, YOU KNOW, COME ON BOARD IN VARIOUS CITIES? UM, OBVIOUSLY I HAVE NO DOUBT Y'ALL HAVE LOOKED AT THE FINANCES ON THAT AND SAY, HEY, WE CAN TIGHTEN UP AND LONG TERM, THIS IS A SMART, UM, CIS, SO I LOVE THIS.
I THINK THAT, UM, THIS SHOWS THAT DARK HAS LISTENED TO SOME OF THE CITIES THAT ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE UPSET, UM, AND SOME OF THE STUFF GOING ON TO OUR NORTH AND TO OUR WEST OR EAST OR, UM, AND I, I FEEL LIKE IT'S A NICE MEET IN THE MIDDLE, UH, WITHOUT KILLING DART.
AND I THINK THAT, UH, THE FACT THAT Y'ALL HAVE COME THIS FAR, I'LL BE HONEST, THIS IS A LOT FURTHER THAN I THOUGHT.
UM, DART WOULD COME, NOT THAT I WANTED THEM TO COME THIS FAR.
I'M KIND OF SURPRISED BY THAT.
SO I, I, I AM, I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT SOME OF YOUR, YOUR BOARD MEMBERS AND SOME OF THE PEOPLE WERE A LITTLE HESITANT ON THIS, BUT I THINK IT'S A SMART, SMART APPROACH.
UM, SO CONGRATULATIONS TO THAT.
AND I ABSOLUTELY THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA, AND I THINK SOMETHING LIKE THIS WILL DEFINITELY BENEFIT THE RESIDENTS AND THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, UM, IN RICHARDSON AND LOOKING FORWARD, WE LOOK TO MUCH MORE, UH, TRANSIT FOCUSED DEVELOPMENT AND HOPEFULLY INCREASE RIDERSHIP AND MAKE IT ALL, UM, MAKE SENSE AND PROVIDE LONG-TERM HEALTH.
AND, AND LEMME SAY YOUR CITY MANAGER BEING INVOLVED IN THIS AND, AND, UH, YOUR MAYOR BEING SUPPORTIVE OF THE WHOLE IDEA FROM THE, FROM THE VERY, VERY BEGINNING.
I MEAN, IT REALLY HELPS US MOVE ALONG BECAUSE WITHOUT THAT KINDA LEADERSHIP FROM THE CITY SIDE, WE WOULD STRUGGLE JUST TRYING TO DO IT OURSELVES.
I MEAN, IT CAME, THE, THE IDEA CAME FROM THE CITIES AND, AND NOW WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY WORKING THROUGH THE DETAILS, SO IT'S GOOD.
UM, I JUST WANNA ADD ON MY THANKS AS WELL.
UM, GREAT JOB ON THIS, UM, MAYOR SCHLEGEL, I, I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL FOR SIX YEARS, AND I'M ALWAYS AMAZED AT THE CONTINUED GREAT WORK AND RELATIONSHIP WE HAVE WITH DART.
UM, HAVING BEEN ON THE TIF BOARD PRIOR TO GETTING ON COUNCIL, I CAN, I KNOW AND UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT OF THIS AND HOW, HOW WELL THIS WILL HELP US.
I GUESS MY ONLY QUESTION THAT I HAVE THOUGH IS, IS I WOULD, I LIKE, UH, COUNCILWOMAN JUSTICE, I WOULD LOVE TO BELIEVE THAT TONIGHT OUR LEGISLATIVE GROUP IS WATCHING OUR, OUR CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
SO MY QUESTION,
SAY, PLEASE DON'T, YOU KNOW, PLEASE STAY OUT OF WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW AND ALLOW THIS TO BE, TO BE WORKING.
IS THAT SOMETHING WE COULD GET UP THERE RIGHT AWAY? UM, ABSOLUTELY.
AND, AND I DON'T WANNA SPEAK FOR, UH, COUNCILMAN CORCORAN, BUT I THINK, UM, IN HIS COMMENTS ON THURSDAY, UH, ALLUDED TO SOME OF THESE INITIATIVES BEING UNDERWAY AS WELL.
BUT ABSOLUTELY, UH, COUNCILMAN HITCHER, I, WE DEFINITELY, UM, CAN, YEAH.
I MEAN, I THINK IT NEEDS, USE THIS AS AN EXAMPLE OF HOW WE CAN DO IT LOCALLY.
AND YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK IT, YOU KNOW, UH, REGARDLESS, AND I, AND I TRUST COMPLETELY THAT THE COUNCILMAN CORCORAN DID A GREAT JOB, BUT I JUST LIKE TO MAKE IT VERY, VERY CLEAR AND SHIP IT UP IMMEDIATELY AND SAY, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE DOING LOCALLY.
PLEASE KIND OF PLEASE STAY OUT OF OUR BUSINESS IN THE NICEST OF WAYS.
THAT'S NOT VERY WELL SAID TONIGHT, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT MY, MY, MY INTENT IS.
SO IF WE COULD DO THAT, I'D, I'D LOVE TO SEE SOMETHING THAT AGGRESSIVE.
'CAUSE I THINK WE HAVE A VERY SHORT WINDOW.
SO I, I JUST THROW THAT OUT THERE AS IF WE COULD.
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YEAH.JUST TO CLARIFY, I DIDN'T MENTION THIS, UH, IN MY COMMENTS.
I MENTIONED SOME OF THE OTHER ITEMS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP SEPARATE, BUT I DIDN'T MENTION THIS.
UH, THIS, I THINK IF, I DON'T KNOW, I THINK IF DART'S OKAY WITH US SENDING IT OVER, I MEAN, IT WOULD BE GOOD TO TO SHOW AN EXAMPLE OF WHERE 13 MEMBER CITIES COULD GET TOGETHER AND AGREE.
MS. JUSTICE, DO YOU WANTED TO ADD ONE THING? YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO ADD ON THAT.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT, BUT COUNCILMAN CORCORAN WENT DOWN AND TESTIFIED AT THE HOUSE COMMITTEE, UM, UH, ABOUT THIS BILL THAT'S PENDING, AND HE TESTIFIED, I WANT, I WANT YOU ALL TO HEAR THIS.
AT 1235 IN THE MORNING,
UM, THEY, THEY SWEATED OUT TOGETHER ALL DAY, UH, WAITED PATIENTLY AND TESTIFIED.
UM, AND SO I JUST WANNA RECOGNIZE YOUR EFFORT.
UM, WE WERE TEXTING DURING THE DAY, AND THEN I WENT TO SLEEP, BUT YOU WERE STILL THERE TESTIFYING.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, CONGRATULATIONS.
THANK YOU FOR BEING OUR VOICE IN AUSTIN.
UM, HOPEFULLY THEY, THEY HEARD YOU AND, UM, I JUST WANTED TO RECOGNIZE YOUR EFFORTS ON THAT.
HE DID, AS DID YOU, MR. MAYOR, AS DID YOU? NO, THANK YOU.
WELL, UH, I JUST WANNA MAKE THIS THING VERY BRIEF.
UH, THIS IS A GREAT IDEA, CONCEPT, IDEA.
AND, UH, THIS DEFINITELY CLEAR CLEARLY SHOWS THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, DART HAS VERY CLEAR INTENTION HELPING ALL THE MEMBERS.
AND, UH, ALSO I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK FORWARD THAT THE BENEFIT THAT'S BRINGING DARK TO EACH COMMUNITY AND, UH, WHEN IT STARTED THE EQUATION WAS MUCH DIFFERENT THAN WAS TODAY.
SO, UH, SO DEFINITELY WE SHOULD LOOK WHAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST, WHAT'S HAPPENING TODAY, AND WHAT WILL HAPPEN TOMORROW.
BUT THIS THING DEFINITELY IS GONNA GIVE AT LEAST US ANOTHER TOOL FOR OUR DEVELOPMENT, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
UM, AND I'M SO HAPPY AND APPRECIATE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ALL, YOU ALL REALIZE THAT THIS IS A GREAT THING.
SO, UH, I HOPE YOU KNOW, ABSOLUTELY THAT THE AUSTIN, THEY REALIZED THAT WE ARE TRYING TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM LOCALLY, AND THERE ARE GREAT IDEA, GREAT TOOLS IN IT, AND, UH, THIS IS DEFINITELY ONE OF THE TOOL.
YOU KNOW, THERE MIGHT BE A FEW OTHER TOOLS THAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT BECAUSE IT'S A COMPLICATED SITUATION AND THERE ARE MORE OTHER VARIABLES.
I'M SURE THE RIGHT IDEA WILL COME FROM LOCALLY, AND WE, I DEFINITELY, WE CAN SOLVE THIS LOCALLY, AND THIS IS WHAT OUR FUTURE DART IS IMPORTANT.
AND, UH, THANK YOU TO MR. JOE CORAN FOR BEING THERE AT O IN AUSTIN.
I THINK, I THINK IT'S A GREAT THING.
IF I HAD, IF I COULD STRETCH MY THUMBS, I WOULD'VE DONE THAT, BUT I'M 40.
UH, MR. SLAGEL, I, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADD ONE THING THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW.
I THINK THE FACT THAT YOU AND NADINE MADE A COMMITMENT TO START REACHING, REACH OUT REGIONALLY TO ALL THE MAYORS, ALL THE CITY MANAGERS MULTIPLE TIMES THROUGH THE YEAR TO GIVE THOSE IDEAS, TO ASK WHAT IT IS WE NEED, WHAT ARE OUR RIDER WANT, AND WHAT ARE, WHAT DO, WHAT DID OUR COMMUNITY NEED AND WANT.
AND YOU HAVE LISTENED AND, AND HAVE STRATEGICALLY TRIED TO FIND A WAY TO, IN A REGIONAL MANNER, BE ABLE TO FIX THINGS IN MULTIPLE CITIES.
AND, AND THAT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO DO BECAUSE WE ALL DON'T WEAR THE SAME SIZE SHOE.
WE DON'T ALWAYS HAVE THE SAME COLOR HAIR.
WE DON'T ALL HAVE THOSE SAME THINGS, AND WE'RE NOT ALL ALIKE.
BUT THE POINT THAT Y'ALL ARE DOING IS YOU'RE LISTENING AND BEING ABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS, CONNECT AND BE WILLING TO LISTEN, AND TO ALLOW HOW THIS KICKED OFF WAS IN A MEETING, MR. MAGNER, MYSELF, YOU, NADINE, HE CAME UP WITH THESE THOUGHTS.
WHAT IF, WHAT IF, AND WE BATTED THOSE THINGS AROUND.
SO I WANT TO THANK YOU AND I WANNA THANK DON FOR HIS LEADERSHIP IN THE REGION, BECAUSE THESE THINGS DIDN'T JUST HAPPEN.
AND I, I, AND I'M HONORED THAT THIS COUNCIL HAS BEEN ABLE TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF YOU.
I THINK THE TEAM HERE, UM, THE FACT THAT WE HAD MULTIPLE COUNCIL MEMBERS SAYING, YES, I WILL GO TESTIFY IN AUSTIN, WE'LL DO THIS.
WE HAD MULTIPLE SAYING THEY WERE GO, JOE GOT THE EITHER LONG STICK OR SHORT STICK TO DO IT, BUT EITHER WAY, THE COMMITMENT THAT WE HAVE HERE IN THE CITY IS BECAUSE OF THE TEAM APPROACH IN WHICH Y'ALL ARE TAKING.
SO I WANT TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.
AND WE FEEL LIKE WE'RE PART OF THE SOLUTION, NOT PART OF THE PROBLEM.
BUT WE DON'T MIND SAYING TO YOU, WE HAVE A PROBLEM.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR. MAGNER.
ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO ADD?
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UH, NO, SIR.I JUST WANNA MAKE, PLEASE COMPLIMENT THIS, UH, CITY COUNCIL MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL ON YOUR REGIONALISM.
JENNIFER, BEING ON THE RTC OR ON THE BOARD RATHER OF, OF COG, COG IS CRITICAL.
THEN YOUR INVOLVEMENT AS, AS YOU PARTICIPATE IN THE RTC IS CRITICAL.
IT'S NOT, WE BUILD, IF WE BUILD A BETTER REGION, WE BUILD A BETTER RICHARDSON.
AND WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT FOR YEARS.
AND, AND THE, THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE THING IS CARRIED FORWARD AND, AND, UH, BECAUSE OF THAT ACT INTERACTION, PEOPLE RECOGNIZE IT.
AND THAT LITTER OR WHATEVER IT IS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, AS HU UH, COUNCILMAN HUTCHIN WRITER IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT TELLS, TELLS NOT ONLY THE STATE, BUT THE REGION THAT, THAT, THAT YOU GUYS ARE PLAYERS AND WE WANNA WORK TOGETHER TO DO SOMETHING.
SO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO, EVERYBODY.
[9. PUBLIC HEARING, ZONING FILE 25-06, AND CONSIDER ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF RICHARDSON, TEXAS, AMENDING THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE AND ZONING MAP OF THE CITY OF RICHARDSON, AS HERETOFORE AMENDED, TO GRANT A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM LR-M(2) LOCAL RETAIL TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR THE RA-1100-M RESIDENTIAL ATTACHED (TOWNHOME) DISTRICT; ADOPTING USE AND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, INCLUDING A CONCEPT PLAN FOR A 7.098-ACRE TRACT OF LAND LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF SHILOH ROAD, NORTH OF E RENNER ROAD, RICHARDSON, TEXAS.]
OKAY.THAT'S ALLOWS US TO MOVE ON TO ITEM NINE, PUBLIC HEARING ZONING FILE 25 DASH OH SIX AND CONSIDER ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF RICHARDSON, TEXAS, AMENDING THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE AND ZONING MAP OF THE CITY OF RICHARDSON TO GRANT A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM LRM TO LOCAL RETAIL TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT.
PLAN FOR THE RA 1100 DASH M RESIDENTIAL ATTACHED TOWN HOME DISTRICT LAND, LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF SHILOH ROAD, NORTH OF EAST RENNER ROAD, RICHARDSON, TEXAS.
MR. MAGNER, UH, MAYOR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
UH, DEREK PETERS, OUR, UH, SENIOR PLANNER IS GONNA LEAD THE BRIEFING.
UH, CHARLES, UH, GOFF IS HANDING OUT TO YOU A, UH, REVISED ORDINANCE.
UH, IT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WAS IN YOUR PACKET.
UM, THERE HAVE BEEN TWO AMENDMENTS, ONE, UH, REVISION TO THE ELEVATIONS IN EXHIBIT, UH, C ONE, AND THEN, UH, AN UPDATE TO SECTION, UH, TWO, UH, TWO POINT B THREE RELATED TO, UH, LOTS, UH, WITHOUT FRONTAGE.
AND SO, UM, WANTED TO DRAW THIS TO YOUR ATTENTION TO THE PUBLIC'S ATTENTION, ATTENTION AS THE ORDINANCE IS ALSO, UH, UP FOR CONSIDERATION TONIGHT.
UH, WE WILL, WE WILL, UH, ACKNOWLEDGE THESE TWO CHANGES AND EXPLAIN, UH, WHAT THEY ARE.
UM, IF, UM, AT THE CONCLUSION OF YOUR PUBLIC HEARING, UH, IF THERE'S A, A DESIRE TO PROCEED, WE HAVE A, A MOTION THAT IT'LL NEED TO BE READ AS WELL.
SO I CAN, UM, AS, AS SOMEBODY MAKES, UH, THAT, THAT, UH, FIRST I'LL GO AHEAD AND READ THE MOTION FOR, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
UM, SUBSEQUENT TO DEREK, I THINK THAT THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND HAS, UH, SOME, UH, REMARKS AND, UH, SLIDES.
HE, UH, HE'D LIKE TO SHARE AS WELL.
SO, DEREK, I'LL TURN IT OVER YOU.
THANK YOU, MR. MAGNER, MAYOR AND COUNSEL.
SO THIS IS ZONING VIAL 25 0 6.
THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A PLAN DEVELOPMENT FOR A TOWN HOME DEVELOPMENT WITH 89 UNITS.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 3,600 SHILOH ROAD.
THIS IS AN UNDEVELOPED PARCEL THAT'S APPROXIMATELY SEVEN ACRES.
THE PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH A SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE EAST OF THIS SUBJECT SITE IS AN OFFICE.
AND FLEX LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT IMMEDIATELY SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE IS AN ASSISTED LIVING AND SKILLED NURSING FACILITY, AND TO THE WEST IS THE CITY OF PLANO.
AND IN THE CITY OF PLANO, THERE IS A TOWN HOME DEVELOPMENT CURRENTLY UNDERWAY UNDER CONSTRUCTION FOR 91 TOWN HOME UNITS.
THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN IDENTIFIED THIS AREA AS A NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICE PLACE TYPE, WHICH DOES CALL FOR SINGLE FAMILY AS A SECONDARY USE.
THIS PARCEL IS ALSO ADJACENT TO NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL PLACE TYPE, WHICH CALLS FOR SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED AS A PRIMARY USE TO PROVIDE SOME BACKGROUND ON THE ZONING OF THE PROPERTY.
SO IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED OM OFFICE WITH SPECIAL CONDITIONS.
IN 2006, THIS PROPERTY, ALONG WITH THE NURSING CENTER TO THE SOUTH, WERE REZONED TO ALLOW FOR A SKILLED NURSING FACILITY, UH, IN THIS AREA.
AT THAT TIME, THERE WAS A CONCEPT PLAN FOR THE NURSING FACILITY TO THE SOUTH, BUT THERE HAD NOT BEEN A CONCEPT PLAN FOR THIS NORTHERN PARCEL EVER DEVELOPED.
UM, AND THAT, UH, SKILLED NURSING FACILITY DID DEVELOP SHORTLY AFTER.
UM, THEN IN 2017, THIS PROPERTY WAS APPROVED FOR A SPECIAL PERMIT FOR A PRIVATE SCHOOL, HOWEVER, THAT NEVER DEVELOPED.
SO HERE ARE SITE PHOTOS OF THAT VACANT PROPERTY, A SEEN FROM SHILOH ROAD, AND THEN A SEEN FROM THE NORTH, AND THEN YOU'RE LOOKING SOUTH AT THE HOSPITAL.
SO HERE'S THE PROPOSED CONCEPT PLAN.
THE APPLICANT SHOWS THAT THE 89 UNITS WILL BE SPREAD THROUGHOUT 20 BUILDINGS THROUGH THE SITE.
THERE WILL BE TWO POINTS OF ACCESS FROM SHILOH ROAD FROM TWO DRIVEWAYS.
ALSO, THE EXISTING MEDIAN IN SHILOH ROAD WILL BE MODIFIED TO ALLOW FOR AN ADEQUATE TURN LANE FOR SOUTHBOUND TRAFFIC
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TURNING EAST INTO THIS PROPERTY.ALL OF THE UNITS WILL FACE ONTO OPEN SPACE.
THE INTERNAL UNITS THAT ARE, UH, SHOWN IN ROWS, UH, VERTICAL ROWS WILL FACE INWARD ONTO COMMON AREAS THAT ARE PLANTED WITH ORNAMENTAL AND CANOPY TREES.
AND THEN THE UNITS ALONG SHILOH ROAD WILL FACE ONTO SHILOH, AND THEY'LL BE SET BACK FROM SHILOH BY 60 FEET.
UH, THAT SETBACK OF 60 FEET WILL INCLUDE A 30 FOOT DRAINAGE AND UTILITY EASEMENT THAT WILL BE UNDEVELOPED.
AND THERE WILL BE A 30 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER BETWEEN SHILOH AND THOSE HOMES FACING ONTO SHILOH.
THAT WILL INCLUDE A, UH, LANDSCAPE BUFFER WITH STREET TREES, ORNAMENTAL TREES, AND AN EIGHT FOOT SIDEWALK WILL BE CONSTRUCTED.
THE REAR OF THE UNITS WILL BACK ONTO A NETWORK OF PRIVATE STREETS IN THE COMMUNITY.
THE REARS OF THE UNITS WILL HAVE, UH, PROVIDE ACCESS TO AN ENCLOSED TWO CAR GARAGE.
AND THEN ADDITIONALLY, THERE WILL BE 67 GUEST PARKING SPACES PROVIDED.
AND THOSE ARE PRIMARILY ON THE EASTERN AND SOUTHERN PROPERTY LINES.
THOSE ARE PARALLEL PARKING SPACES THAT ARE KIND OF BEHIND THE FIRE LANE ON THE EASTERN AND SOUTHERN PROPERTY LINES.
UH, THERE WILL ALSO BE A SIDEWALK NETWORK THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY, AND IT'S ESTIMATED THAT A GUEST WALKING FROM, UH, ONE OF THESE GUEST PARKING SPACES TO THE FRONT OF A UNIT WOULD TAKE ABOUT ONE TO TWO MINUTES.
UH, THE SITE IS PROVIDING 27% OPEN SPACE.
THERE WILL BE A 2000 FOOT SQUARE FOOT DOG PARK IN THE NORTHEAST OF THE SITE THAT'S SHOWN IN PURPLE.
THERE WILL BE A 5,000 SQUARE FOOT OPEN SPACE, MORE CENTRALLY LOCATED, AND THAT WILL PROVIDE SEATING AND LIGHTING AMENITIES FOR A GATHERING AREA.
THERE WILL BE LANDSCAPE BUFFERS ALONG THE NORTH, SOUTH, AND EAST PROPERTY LINE AS WELL, PLANTED WITH ORNAMENTAL TREES.
THERE IS AN EXISTING EIGHT FOOT TALL MASONRY SCREENING WALL THAT WAS DEVELOPED WITH A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY TO THE NORTH, SO THAT, UH, EXISTING SCREENING WALL RUNS ALONG THE NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE.
THE APPLICANT HAS PROPOSED TO EXTEND THAT WITH A SIX FOOT TALL MASONRY SCREENING WALL TO SCREEN THE PROPERTIES TO THE EAST AND TO THE SOUTH AS WELL.
THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS IN THE CITY OF RICHARDSON CODE DO REQUIRE THAT LOTS HAVE FRONTAGE ONTO PUBLIC OR PRIVATE STREETS.
HOWEVER, AS I MENTIONED, ALL OF THESE UNITS WILL FACE ONTO COMMON OPEN SPACE.
SO THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING A VARIANCE FOR THAT REQUEST, UH, AS, UH, RELATED TO THAT REQUEST.
UM, AND AN HOA HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION WILL BE ESTABLISHED TO MAINTAIN THE COMMON SPACES THROUGHOUT THE SITE, INCLUDING THE GUEST PARKING SPACES, THE PRIVATE STREETS, THE SCREENING ELEMENTS, BUILDING EXTERIORS AND FRONT YARDS.
SO HERE'S SOME ARCHITECTURAL RENDERINGS PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT, AND THESE WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE.
UH, THESE SHOW A THREE STORY PRODUCT.
UH, THE FRONT OF THE, UH, PRODUCTS SHOW STONE AND MASONRY, AS WELL AS FEATURES LIKE HORIZONTAL ARTICULATION, PITCHED ROOFS AND ARTICULATION THROUGH BALCONIES, DORMERS, AND GABLES.
FEATURES HERE ARE RENDERINGS OF THE SIDE AND REAR.
SO THE SIDES ARE SHOWN TO HAVE MASONRY ON THE BOTTOM, THE GROUND FLOOR, AND THEN SIDING ALONG THE TOP FLOOR, AND THEN THE REAR WOULD HAVE SIDING.
THESE ARE ARCHITECTURAL RULE RENDERINGS PROVIDED FOR A TWO STORY PRODUCT INSTEAD, UM, THE APPLICANT DOESN'T INTEND FOR THE DEVELOPMENT TO BE DEVELOPED AS A THREE STORY THROUGHOUT.
HOWEVER, THEY DO WANNA INCLUDE THIS RENDERING, UH, JUST TO PROVIDE THEM THE FLEXIBILITY TO RESPOND TO THE MARKET DEMANDS IF THE MARKET DOES CHANGE.
HERE'S A SUMMARY THAT COMPARES WHAT IS PROPOSED TODAY TO THE TYPICAL TOWNHOMES DISTRICT STANDARDS.
IN THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE.
THE, UH, AREAS THAT THEY'RE DE DEVIATING FROM ARE ITALICIZED HERE.
SO THEY WILL HAVE PROPOSED TO LOWER THE LOT AREA TO 1300 SQUARE FEET MINIMUM.
THEY'RE RAISING THE UNIT'S MINIMUM UNIT SIZE TO 1700 SQUARE FEET, REDUCING LOT WIDTH TO 22 FEET, LOT DEPTH TO 60 FEET, AND THE REAR SETBACK TO THREE FEET.
THEY'RE INCREASING LOT COVERAGE TO 85%, AND THEY'RE INCREASING THE MINIMUM AMOUNT OF GUEST PARKING REQUIRED, WHICH IS TYPICALLY 0.5 SPACES PER UNIT.
BUT WHAT THEY'RE PROVIDING IS 0.75 SPACES PER UNIT.
ALSO, I'LL ADD THAT THE TYPICAL STANDARDS ALLOW FOR A THREE STORY TOWN HOME DEVELOPMENT OR 55 FEET HIGH.
THAT IS, UNLESS THE DEVELOPMENT OR THE UNITS ARE WITHIN 150 FEET OF A SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT.
SO THIS PROPERTY ABUTS A SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT TO THE NORTH.
SO FOR THOSE UNITS THAT FALL WITHIN THAT 150 FEET BUFFER, THOSE WILL MOST LIKELY BE THREE STORY UNITS.
JUST LIKE THE REMAINDER OF THE UNITS THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT, THEY'LL BE 45 FEET TALL, WHICH IS FIVE FEET TALLER THAN WHAT IS
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OTHERWISE ALLOWED.SO THEY ARE SEEKING, UH, EXCEPTION THERE.
IN SUMMARY, THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST AT THEIR APRIL 1ST MEETING.
CITY STAFF TO TODAY, UH, AS OF FIVE O'CLOCK TODAY, HAS RECEIVED FOUR STATEMENTS IN OPPOSITION AND ONE IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST.
AND SHOULD THE CITY, CITY COUNCIL, UH, CONSIDER APPROVING THE ZONING FILE AND THE ORDINANCE, I MIGHT REMIND YOU, AS DAWN MENTIONED, THAT WE DID HAVE TWO MINOR REVISIONS TO THE ORDINANCE THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE PACKET.
UH, EXHIBIT C HAD THE, UH, INCORRECT ELEVATION.
SO THAT DOES NOW ACCURATELY SHOW THE THREE STORY ELEVATION.
AND WE ALSO INCLUDED A STATEMENT THAT ALLOWS FOR LOTS WITHOUT FRONTAGE.
WE MADE SURE THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE ORDINANCE.
AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. DORY.
UH, WELL, YOU KNOW, I MIGHT WAIT TO ASK QUESTIONS, UH, FOR THE APPLICANT, DO YOU WANNA WAIT TILL THE APPLICANT? OKAY.
QUESTION FOR STAFF? YEAH, DEREK, UH, MS. PETERS, CAN YOU, UM, TELL ME EXACTLY WHERE, CAN YOU POINT THOSE OUT, WHERE THOSE CHANGES WERE ON THIS? I'M LOOKING AT THE ORDINANCE THAT WAS HANDED TO US.
I WILL START YOU AT SECTION TWO TO POINT B, PAGE PAGE NINE.
I'LL HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF ME.
THAT SECTION IS CALLED SPECIAL REQUIREMENTS, THEN WE'VE ADDED NUMBER, I CAN'T DO IT.
THREE, THERE'S NO WORDS ON THAT PAGE.
ELEVATION, IS IT RIGHT THAT YOU'RE A ADDING THE ELEVATION IS ONE OF THE CHANGES? CORRECT.
NOW THE SECOND ONE IS UNDER SPECIAL REQUIREMENTS.
AND WHAT'S THE ONE UNDER SPECIAL REQUIREMENTS? IT'S NUMBER THREE.
DAN, IS THAT ALL YOU HAD? YES.
MS. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY, SEEING NONE THEN DCA, WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING WHAT ASK THE APPLICANT TO COME FORWARD, PLEASE.
UH, THANKS FOR, UH, ALLOWING US TO, UH, PRESENT TODAY.
UNFORTUNATELY, THE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT FOR PULTE HAD TO HAVE A, AN EMERGENCY SURGERY.
SO I'M, UH, PINCH HITTING FOR TONIGHT.
UM, I'M MATT DAL, SIXTY ONE SIXTY, UH, BORN PARKWAY, SUITE TWO 10 WITH KIMLEY HORN.
I'M THE CIVIL ENGINEER ON THE PROJECT.
JUST WANNA GIVE YOU A QUICK BACKGROUND ON PULTE GROUP, IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH WITH THEM.
UH, THEY'VE BEEN, UM, THEY'RE THE THIRD LARGEST HOME BUILDER IN, IN THE UNITED STATES.
UM, THEY'VE DONE, THEY'VE DELIVERED OVER 800,000 HOMES, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE 75 YEAR HISTORY.
AND, UM, UNDER THEIR DELL WEB GROUP, OR, OR EXCUSE ME, ABOUT UNDER PULTE GROUP, THEY OPERATE UNDER A FEW BRANDS, WHICH IS PULTE HOMES, WHICH IS WHAT THIS PROJECT IS PROPOSED TO BE.
UH, DELL WEB, WHICH IS YOUR AGE RESTRICTED, LARGER MASTER PLAN COMMUNITIES YOU MIGHT BE FAMILIAR WITH.
AND SYNTECH IS MORE OF YOUR ENTRY LEVEL HOMES.
AND THEN THERE'S MULTIPLE OTHER BLA UH, BRANDS AND DIFFERENT MARKETS.
BUT THOSE THREE ARE PROBABLY MORE SPECIFIC TO DFW.
UH, AS WELL AS, UH, PULTE CAME INTO THIS MARKET IN 1978, SO ALMOST 50 YEARS I'VE BEEN HERE.
UM, THEY CURRENTLY HAVE, UH, 28 ACTIVE MARKETS, AND TYPICALLY THEY'RE RIGHT AROUND 1800 HOMES CLOSED.
SO THEY'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS AREA.
AND, UH, AS I MENTIONED, THEY, THEY TRY US TO SERVE ALL MULTIPLE DIVERSE HOMEOWNERS.
UM, WITH THAT, UH, I WANTED TO DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SITE PLAN.
ONE OF THE COMMENTS WE RECEIVED FROM P AND Z WAS REGARDING THE PARKING.
SO WE'VE LOOKED AT OTHER OPTIONS TO HELP MAYBE, UH, INCREASE SOME OF THE PARKING ON THE NORTH.
SO THE WAY IT'S BROKEN DOWN RIGHT NOW, THERE'S, I BELIEVE, 17 STALLS ON THE NORTH, 2021 OR SO ON THE SOUTH.
WHAT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO DO IS KEEP THAT OPEN SPACE AREA IN THE CENTRAL, CENTRAL AREA.
SO AS YOU'RE COMING IN THAT SOUTH ACCESS POINT, THAT IS A MEDIAN OPENING LINED UP WITH THE, THE SUBDIVISION OF THE TO THE WEST.
SO WE'VE COORDINATED THAT WITH THE CITY OF PLANO.
AND AS THE IDEA IS YOU'RE COMING INTO THE DEVELOPMENT, WE WANT TO SEE THIS OPEN SPACE AREA, WHICH THIS, THIS EXHIBIT HERE PROBABLY DOESN'T GIVE IT JUSTICE, BUT OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS REALLY PLANNING THIS OUT, MAKING IT LONGER LINEAR.
IT'S GONNA BE A REALLY, PRETTY, PRETTY AREA THAT PEOPLE WANT TO CONGREGATE IN.
UM, AND THEN A COUPLE OF THE, UM, THE COMMENTS THAT WERE NOT
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IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT HAD TO GO, HAD DISCUSSED, UH, CONNECTION BETWEEN EAST WEST.THERE'S A BUSINESS PARK ON THE EAST, AND ONE OF THEIR COMMENTS WAS, THEY DON'T WANT ANY TRAFFIC FROM THIS SUBDIVISION GOING TO THE EAST, AND THAT'S FAIR.
BUT THIS WILL HAVE, AS, AS PETER MENTIONED, WE HAVE AN EXISTING SCREEN WALL IN THE NORTH.
AND THEN WE'LL ALSO BE DOING A MASONRY SCREEN WALL IN THE EAST AND SOUTH.
SO IT'S NOT A GATED COMMUNITY, BUT IT WILL BE SURROUNDED MORE LIKE A, A TYPICAL SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT.
SO IT WILL BE ENCOMPASSED WITH WALKABILITY THROUGHOUT, UH, THE PROJECT OR THE, THE TOWN HOMES WILL AVERAGE, UH, LOW TO MID 500, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE SUBDIVISION ON THE WEST OR THE BEZA HOMES PROJECT ON THE WEST.
AND, UH, THE PD HAS 1700 SQUARE FEET, TYPICALLY THESE THREE STORY, OR 1900 TO 2100 SQUARE FEET AND, UH, FLOOR AREA.
SO I THINK YOU GUYS ALREADY SAW A COUPLE OF THE ELEVATIONS.
UM, JUST ONE OTHER POINT ON THE TWO STORY.
SO THE TWO STORY PRODUCT IS ACTUALLY A COUPLE FEET WIDER.
IT'S A 24 FOOT PROJECT PRODUCT VERSUS 22, AND IT'S A COUPLE FEET DEEPER, SO IT'S STILL MEETS OR EXCEEDS THE MINIMUM FOR FLOOR AREAS, BUT IT'S NOT ONE THEY INTEND TO DO.
BUT THAT'S WHAT THE MARKET, THEY JUST WANT TO HAVE IT AS MS. PETERS MENTIONED AS, AS A, AS AN OPTION.
BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THEIR PREFERENCE IS.
THEY REALLY, REALLY DO WELL WITH THESE THREE STORY.
AND WITH THAT, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, ACTUALLY, I, I, I DO LIKE THE PROJECT.
I, I WANNA KIND OF HAVE A, A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF HOW IT'S GOING TO COME TOGETHER.
AND THEN ALSO THE VARIANCE THAT YOU'RE SEEKING.
ARE YOU CONSIDERING THE THREE STORY, THE TWO STORIES STAGGERING THOSE OR JUST ONE OR THE OTHER? ONE OR THE OTHER? AND IT WOULD, SO YOU COULD DO TWO STORIES IN LIKE A FOURPLEX OR FIVEPLEX, BUT YOU COULDN'T DO THREE, TWO, ALL WITHIN THE SAME UNIT IS MY UNDERSTANDING, SO, OKAY.
YEAH, IT, AND IF YOU WANTED TO DO THE TWO STORY, YOU KIND OF NEED TO KNOW UP FRONT BECAUSE THEY'RE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT, LOT WIDTH.
SO WE NEED TO BE STRATEGIC HOW WE DO THAT.
UH, BUT YOUR, YOU SAID YOUR, YOUR FOCUS IS GONNA BE THE THREE STORY, CORRECT? PRIMARILY, ABSOLUTELY.
WHAT, WHAT IS THE EXPECTED TIMELINE FOR THIS PROJECT? UH, SO, OR WE, OR ALMOST MAY, I GUESS ALREADY.
UM, SO AFTER AS SOON WE GET APPROVAL, WE WOULD GO THROUGH THE PLANS AND, AND THAT, THAT PIECE.
SO SIX MONTHS AND THEN START GRADING AS SOON AS WE CAN.
YEAH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS LOCATION.
IT'S GREAT ACCESS TO GEORGE BUSH RENTER.
IT'S, IT'S A REALLY GREAT LOCATION.
UM, ON THE, COULD YOU POINT OUT WHERE THE DUMPSTERS ARE ON THE PLAN? JUST KIND OF WANTED TO SEE WHERE THAT'S, HOW THAT'S, ARE THERE GONNA BE DUMPSTERS ON THE PROPERTY OR IS THERE EVERYONE'S GONNA HAVE INDIVIDUAL PICKUP
THEY'LL HAVE INDIVIDUAL PICKUP, AND TYPICALLY THEY, THEY, UH, MAKE 'EM STORE.
THE HOA WILL REQUIRE 'EM TO STORE IT IN THE, UH, GARAGE.
AND ALL OF THESE ARE FOR SALE, NOT CORRECT.
ALL FOR SALE, NOT, NOT RENTAL.
UM, I KNOW RIGHT NOW THIS IS JUST A CONCEPTUAL, BUT YOU MENTIONED THERE'S MASONRY ON THE BOTTOM HALF OF THE BUILDINGS, AND, UH, LOOKS LIKE THERE'S BOARD AND BAT ON THE TOP.
IT'S PREDOMINANTLY ALMOST 80% MASONRY, CORRECT? CORRECT.
AND ALSO THE, IS PART OF THE VARIANCE ON THE 55 FOOT HIGH, UH, ROOF LINE.
'CAUSE I NOTICED THERE THERE'S 45 VERSUS 40.
YOU'RE ASKING FOR A FIVE FOOT YEAH.
INCREASE THE WAY THE ORDINANCE IS WRITTEN.
IT, IT'S ASSUMING YOU'RE OUTSIDE THE 150 FEET, YOU COULD BE THREE STORY 55 FEET.
UH, WELL, THIS PRODUCT IS ACTUALLY 42 FEET, SO WE'RE ASKING FOR 45, UH, FOR THE THREE STORY.
UM, AND THE WAY THE SITE IS SITUATED, I, I THINK WE'RE IN A GOOD SHAPE AS FAR AS THE, WE, WE'VE MET WITH THE HO EIGHT OF THE NORTH.
UH, WELL, SCOTT BRIDGER, UM, I THINK HE'S COMFORTABLE WITH IT.
WE, THE LOTS ARE SIDING TO THE, TO THE GARAGE SIDE OF THOSE HOMES.
UH, THAT WAS PROBABLY ONE OF OUR MAIN CONCERNS.
BUT THAT, I DON'T SEE THAT BEING AN ISSUE.
SO I GUESS THE THREE STORY WE'RE GOOD WITH, IT'S JUST THE HEIGHT RESTRICTION THAT WE NEED A COUPLE MORE FEET.
SO THAT'S THE VARIANCE THAT WE'LL BE LOOKING AT.
IS THE, THE 42 TO 45 FEET? THAT'S CORRECT.
UH, WHERE FOR THE GUEST PARKING, WHERE IS THE GUEST PARKING IS? SO I THINK I MENTIONED EARLIER, THERE'S ABOUT 21 STALLS ON THE NORTH, ABOUT 17, OR EXCUSE ME, ON THE SOUTH AND ABOUT 17 ON THE NORTH, AND THEN THE REMAINDER ON THE EAST.
UM, SO WE HAVE FIRE LANE, WE CAN'T OBVIOUSLY PARK IN THERE.
SO WE HAVE ON STREET PARKING ON THE EAST, ALL THE WAY UP THE EAST.
I, YEAH, I COULD BARELY, I COULD BARELY SEE LIGHTS THERE.
I FIGURED IT WAS, I JUST COULDN'T, I'VE ZOOMED IN NOW, I, I CAN SEE SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE PARKING.
SO THERE'S ONLY, THERE'S ONE ENTRY IN, ONE ENTRY OUT,
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OR ACTUALLY TWO, I SHOULD DO THAT.AND THE COMMON AREA IS, UM, I MEAN, I'M, I'M ASSUMING THE HOA, THAT'S PART OF THE HOA 'CAUSE IT IS A FULL HOA, CORRECT? YES.
NOT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
SO THEY'LL BE MAINTAINING ALL OF THE TREES AND YARD AND THE SPRINKLER SYSTEMS AND THE STREETS SPIRALING.
SO EVERYTHING'S CONTAINED INTO THE COMPLEX.
ONE THING I SHOULD HAVE NOTED IN MY PRESENTATION IS THAT THE, THE PROPERTY IN THE NORTHEAST CORNER IS COLLIN COUNTY OWNED PROPERTY.
SO ANDREW IS, IS GIVEN US CONTACTS.
WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN A RESPONSE BACK.
SO WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT.
IF, IF THEY WOULD BE OPENING OPEN TO WORKING WITH PULTE TO GET THIS DONE, IT WOULD JUST BE OPEN SPACE.
SO IT'D BE A LARGER PARK, SOME MORE PARKING.
THAT WOULD BE THE INTENTION IF WE CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
UM, I, I MAY HAVE SOME OTHER QUESTIONS, BUT, UH, I'LL LET SOME OTHERS SPEAK.
WELL, THANK YOU FOR COMING AND PRESENTING THIS.
UH, YOU KNOW, I WISH YOU HAD LITTLE MORE CLEAR PICTURE.
FOR SOME REASON, I CAN'T REALLY ZOOM IN AND READ THE SITE PLAN.
UH, SO I WOULD BE ASKING THE QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED AND ANSWERED, BUT IT'S GONNA BE REPETITIVE.
PROBABLY THE WIDTH OF THE STREET.
IS THAT 24 FEET PAVED AREA? YEAH.
24 FEET WITHIN A 30 FOOT STREET EASEMENT, 30 FEET STRAIGHT RIGHT AWAY.
UH, ON SIDE, UH, UH, IS THAT THE SIDEWALK OR HOW THAT WORKS? CAN YOU NO SHOW, THERE'S NO SIDEWALK ON THE MEUSE STREET.
SO YOU HAVE THREE FOOT SETBACK, AND THEN YOU HAVE A THREE OR THREE FEET OF EASEMENT, AND THEN THREE FEET TO THE FRONT DOOR.
WE DON'T WANT CARS PARKED IN PARALLEL IN THERE.
SO, UH, THE SIDEWALKS ALL RUN THROUGH THE FRONT YARDS.
THEY'LL, THE, THE, THE PATIOS OR THE FRONT YARDS WILL TIE THE MUSE AND THE, THE CONNECTIVITY THROUGH THE OPEN SPACE.
THE OTHER LANE NEED TO BE OPEN.
SO HOW CAN BOTH SIDE BE PARKED? YES.
OR YEAH, THAT'S TWO CAR GARAGE.
UH, AND, UM, THE LOT SIZE, YOU HAVE WHAT, 60 FEET MINIMUM LOT DEPTH AND 22 FEET WIDTH, CORRECT? YES.
BUT NOW YOU HAVE, UM, 10 FEET, UH, WHAT IS THAT? 10 FEET.
SO ULTIMATELY THE LOT WIDTH, LOT DEPTH IS 63.
SO HOW DOES THAT WORK? CAN YOU EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE? I'M TRYING TO VISUALIZE THIS THING MYSELF.
SIT BACK, AND THEN 10 FEET, UH, FRONT SETBACK MINIMUM.
I UNDERSTAND IF YOU HAVE 60 FEET WIDTH, YOU CAN HAVE 10 FEET.
10 FEET IS, YES, WE HAVE 10 FEET OF SEPARATION.
BUT HOW, HOW DOES THAT 10 FEET SITE SETBACK WORKS? SO THAT'D BE ADJACENT TO A STREET AS FOR THAT, JUST INTO THE STREET WHEN, BECAUSE YOU'RE COMBINING THOSE? YES, CORRECT.
SO, AND REALLY IT DOESN'T COME INTO PLAY 'CAUSE WE HAVE PARKING, UM, ON, ON WHERE YOU HAVE THOSE, THOSE CORNER LOTS.
SO THOSE ARE SPECIFICALLY FOR THE, IT'S NOT LOT TO LOT.
IT'S, UH, IT'S JUST FOR THE OVERALL 10 FEET? THAT'S CORRECT.
I MAY HAVE SOME OTHER QUESTION, BUT I'M TRYING TO DIGEST THIS.
UH, JUST, UH, ANOTHER QUESTION ON THE SCREENY WALL IS, I KNOW THAT THE, THE BLUE DOTS AROUND, UH, WELL, I'M GONNA CALL IT THE BACKSIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
THAT YOU SAID THAT YOU WERE GONNA EXTEND THAT ANOTHER SIX FEET EARLIER.
IS THAT CORRECT? OR 10 FEET? SO THE WHOLE EASTER LEASE PROPERTY LINE WILL BE SCREEN WALL, SIX FOOT TALL SCREEN WALL.
AND I BELIEVE, AND MAYBE, I BELIEVE THE SCREEN WALL ON THE NORTH IS ALSO SIX FEET, BUT I CAN CONFIRM THAT WITH OUR HOA, SO WE'D BE EXTENDING, SO THEY'D SIX FEET ON THE NORTH, EAST AND SOUTH.
AND, AND WHAT IS THE SCREENING WALL MADE OF? UH, IT'S MADE BRICK MASONRY, OR IT'S ALL BRICK MASONRY MILLSAP.
AND THEN OF COURSE, YOU HAVE IT LINED WITH, UH, LOOKS LIKE TREES AND BUSHES.
I MEAN, IT'S PROPOSED AT THE MOMENT.
UH, JUST COORDINATING WITH THEM.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THEIR EXISTING SCREEN WALL AND TREES AND ROOTS.
SO WE'RE GONNA TRY TO FIND SOME, YOU KNOW, SHRUBS OR DO SOME ZERO ESCAPING ON THE NORTH SIDE ULTIMATELY.
UM, I DO WANNA COMMEND YOU FOR THAT WALL ON THE EASTERN SIDE.
UM, AND I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER THE COMMENTS.
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I KNOW THERE WERE A COUPLE OF THE SURROUNDING BUSINESSES THAT WERE KIND OF CONCERNED.CAN YOU SPEAK TO, DID YOU GO BACK AFTER THE CPC AND SPEAK TO ANY OF THE CONCERNS, OR WERE THERE ANY SUGGESTIONS YOU MADE BASED ON WHAT SOME OF THAT FEEDBACK WAS AROUND THE CPC? NO.
'CAUSE I THINK WHEN THEY SUBMITTED THOSE COMMENTS, THEY HADN'T SEEN THE SITE PLAN.
UM, 'CAUSE SO WE'VE ALWAYS, UH, HAD THE SCREEN WALL AS PART OF THIS PROJECT.
SO I THINK WE ALLEVIATED THOSE CONCERNS PRIOR TO THE MEETING.
CAN WE CONFIRM THAT, LIKE WITH THOSE YEAH, I'M, WE DID NOT, STAFF DID NOT INDIVIDUALLY MEET WITH THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS, BUT, UM, A LOT OF THEIR COMMENTS, I CAN ATTEST WERE BASED ON, I THINK, MISINFORMATION.
THEY, THEY THOUGHT THAT THEIR, THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD CONNECT INTO THEIR DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS NOT THE CASE.
UM, AND SO BASED ON THAT, STAFF FEELS THAT THE MASONRY SCREENING WALL THAT IS BEING PROVIDED HELPS TO ALLEVIATE THOSE CONCERNS.
THERE WAS ALSO A COMMENT ABOUT, UM, THAT THEY HAVE A PICNIC AREA IN THE BACK THAT, THAT WOULD BE ABSORBED INTO THEIR, INTO THIS DEVELOPMENT.
IT'S ON THEIR SIDE, ON THE, THE BUSINESS' SIDE.
AND SO THE MASONRY SCREENING WALL WILL SEPARATE THIS DEVELOPMENT FROM THAT PICNIC AREA.
SO THAT'S THE ONE I WAS TRYING TO REMEMBER.
SO WHERE IS THAT PICNIC OR KIND OF BREAK AREA FOR THE, IN RELATION TO THIS IS ON THAT? YEAH, IT'S KIND OF AT THE FAR NORTH, RIGHT AROUND THIS AREA.
AND SO RIGHT THERE WHERE THAT RIGHT ANGLE IS, WHERE IT HEADS BACK WEST IN FRONT OF THAT WHITE BOX THAT CUT OUT THERE.
IS THERE A WALL THERE? YEAH, THERE'LL BE A WALL, AND THEN THERE'S GONNA BE A GATE, THERE'S A, THERE'S A WALL HERE, AND THEN THERE WILL BE A GATE AT THIS LOCATION THAT WILL PROVIDE FOR, UM, ACCESS TO MAINTAIN THE PROPERTY THAT'S STILL OWNED BY COLLIN COUNTY.
SHOULD, UM, HOLTE NOT BE ABLE TO ACQUIRE IT.
AND IS THAT LIKE A FIRE TRUCK ENTRANCE GATE THAT ALL, OR, UM, YEAH, WE'LL WORK THE, WE'LL, WE'LL REQUIRE THE DEVELOPER TO WORK WITH FIRE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT, UM, EMERGENCY ACCESS CAN BE PROVIDED ARE, SINCE THERE'S NO, IT'S NOT GATED, AS YOU REFERRED TO EARLIER, ARE THESE, UH, PUBLICLY MAINTAINED ROADS, OR ARE THESE PRIVATE ROADS? THESE WILL BE PRIVATELY, THESE ALL PRIVATELY, ALL MAINTAINED STREETS.
THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE FOR NOW.
ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? WE'RE ALL GOOD.
UH, WE'LL ASK YOU TO SIT DOWN.
WE MAY CALL YOU BACK UP IF WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
WE WILL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
MS. NEER, I HAVE ONE SPEAKER, LARRY MOORE.
I AM LARRY MOORE, 34 0 4 SPRING BRANCH DRIVE, RICHARDSON, TEXAS.
UH, I'M, UH, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD JUST NORTH OF THIS, UH, JOINING ADJOINING THIS, UH, PROPERTY, UH, TO THE NORTH.
UH, I DON'T KNOW WHY I'M SO NERVOUS.
I KNOW MOST OF YOU DIE, BUT I, I AM.
SO I'M GONNA TRY TO READ WHAT I, UH, MY, MY DRAFT HERE.
SO, UH, PLEASE BEAR WITH ME AS I GO THROUGH THAT.
UM, I AM A, UH, IN OCTOBER, I WILL BE A 50 YEAR RESIDENT OF RICHARDSON.
SO I'VE GOT A QUITE A BIT OF, UH, OF MY LIFETIME INVESTED IN, UH, HERE IN RICHARDSON.
WE, WE HAVEN'T, UH, WANTED, WE'VE JUST MOVED IN DIFFERENT AREAS.
WE STARTED OUT IN THE HEIGHTS, UH, THEN WE MOVED TO RICHLAND PARK, RAISED OUR KIDS IN RICHLAND PARK, WENT TO BURGUNDER.
UH, WE, UH, THEN HAVE MOVED OUT TO THIS, UH, WOODS OF SPRING CREEK AREA WHEN THERE WAS NOTHING THERE EXCEPT ROCKWELL AND FUJITSU, I BELIEVE.
UM, WHICH WAS KIND OF NICE FOR A WHILE.
SO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
YOU KINDA LET ME SPEAK TONIGHT.
I KNOW THE CLOCK'S RUNNING, AND I GOTTA READ THIS QUICK.
UM, ALTHOUGH I'M A FORMER, UH, HOA PRESIDENT, I'M SPEAKING, UH, NOT AS, AS HOA PRESIDENT, BUT I'M SPEAKING AS A RESIDENT, UH, 26 YEARS, UH, IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, DURING THESE YEARS, I'VE, UH, I'VE ATTENDED MANY CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS, UH, GOT TO KNOW A LOT OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS, THE CITY, UH, STAFF, UH, DOING A GREAT JOB.
AND SO THIS IS, UH, THIS IS ABOUT THE ZONING AND NOT YOU GUYS.
SO Y'ALL HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB,
SO, UH, KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK AND, UH, WE LIKE, WE LOVE OUR RICHARDSON.
SO, UM, UM, SO FIRST OF ALL, I WANNA ADDRESS JUST THE FACT OF THE ZONING CHANGE.
THIS, UH, THIS IS, UH, THIS IS, UH, VERY PROBLEMATIC FOR ME BECAUSE, UH, I WANNA, UH, MANY YEARS THE VISION OF RICHARDSON, UH, WI WITH THE, THE BUILDING OF THE HOSPITAL THERE, UH, RICHARDSON HAD A VISION, UH, OF, OF THIS BECOMING THE NEXT, UH, HOUSTON MEDICAL CENTER.
IT WAS GONNA BE A GREAT MEDICAL AREA, AND, UH,
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THE, UH, IT WAS JUST GONNA BE A, UH, A MEDICAL AREA.SO, UM, THAT WAS THE VISION THAT'S PROPOSED.
AND THAT WAS ONE WE'VE, UH, KINDA LIVED WITH FOR, FOR, FOR MANY YEARS NOW.
UM, WE, UH, SAN REMO CAME IN AND MADE A GREAT PRESENTATION.
WE HAD A, UH, THEY CAME IN WITH A PRESENTATION.
THEY WERE GONNA BUILD, ABLE A REHAB FACILITY IN AN ASSISTED LIVING OR A NURSING CENTER, UH, IN THAT PROPERTY.
SO THEY WERE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
I WAS, UH, FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO, UH, GO TO THE GRAND OPENING OF THAT FACILITY.
UH, AND I'VE ALSO HAD SEVERAL, UH, UH, FAMILY MEMBERS THAT HAVE, UH, UH, BENEFITED FROM THAT FACILITY.
THEY'VE BEEN IN THAT FACILITY TO FACILITATE THAT.
UM, UNFORTUNATELY, THEY, UH, UH, BAILED OUT ON THE, THE SECOND PART OF THAT.
AND, UH, KIND OF DISAPPOINTING TO SEE THAT THEY'VE, UH, BAILED OUT ON PART OF THE, UH, VISION OF THE MEDICAL, MEDICAL AREA THERE.
UM, I KNOW THIS READS HIS, UH, UM, AND NOW THEY'RE TRYING TO GET RID OF THE PROPERTY AND DO SOMETHING WITH IT.
AND SO, UH, INSTEAD OF IT BEING A PLANNED ZONING, I THINK THIS IS, UH, MORE OF A, WHOEVER, WHATEVER DEVELOPMENT AS FAR AS, RATHER THAN IT BEING SOMETHING THAT WAS PLANNED, UH, 'CAUSE IT'S, I DON'T BELIEVE IT WAS WHAT WAS, UH, ORIGINALLY, UH, PLANNED IN THE, UH, BIG CITY OF RICHARDSON, UH, VISION.
UM, NOW, ALTHOUGH PLANO DID BUILD A DI, UH, DEVITO DIALYSIS CENTER, UH, RIGHT AT THE END OF OUR STREET AT, FOR SPRING BRANCH THERE, UH, THEY DID NOT REALLY SUPPORT THE, UH, THE CONCEPT OF THE MEDICAL CITY.
THEY WOULD, UH, THEY, THEY BUILT, UH, APARTMENTS, UH, TOWN HOMES AND, UH, LOW INCOME HOUSING THERE, UM, IN THAT, IN THAT AREA RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM US.
AND AS YOU CAN, IF YOU GO OUT THERE AND YOU LOOK AT THEIR, THEY'RE STILL BUILDING MORE TOWN HOMES.
UH, AND IT IS, UH, COMPLETELY FULL NOW, UH, THEY HAVE COME THROUGH WITH A FEW, UH, UH, UH, THINGS THAT WOULD SUPPORT THE HOSPITAL THERE.
THEY'VE GOT SOME MEETING PLACES THERE.
THEY'VE GOT SOME MEETING PLACES, AND THEY HAVE A, UH, MEDICAL ALCOHOL, UH, PLACES, UH, THERE ON THE CORNER OF, UH, BUSH AND THE, UH, UH, RENTER THERE.
SO, UH, UH, BUT, UH, THEY, THEY WERE, UH, AND WE WENT TO THE, WE HAD A GROUP THAT WENT TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING, AND, UH, IT WAS, UH, UH, THEY, I WAS VERY SURPRISED HOW LITTLE THEY KNEW ABOUT THIS PART OF RICHARDSON.
SO, UH, UH, DISAPPOINTED ABOUT THAT.
UH, SECOND THING IS, I, I JUST OPPOSED THIS, THIS PARTICULAR CONCEPT AS FAR AS, UH, UH, THERE'S, IT DOESN'T REALLY BENEFIT OUR COMMUNITY THERE.
SO THERE'S ALL OF THE, UH, VARIANTS THAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR ALSO SEEM TO, TO NOT FIT INTO OUR COMMUNITY.
THERE'S NOTHING, THREE STORY IN OUR AREA, PLANO.
THREE STORY RICHARDSON AND OUR SIDE OF RICHARDSON.
TWO STORY, RESIDENTIAL, UH, OFFICE MEDICAL USE.
SO, UH, WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE IS, IS THE CITY OF RICHARDSON KINDA STAY TO THEIR, UH, ORIGINAL VISION.
AND I KNOW I'M RUNNING OUTTA TIME HERE, BUT, UH, UM, I WOULD JUST, UH, UH, LIKE FOR THE CITY TO, UH, UH, REMEMBER, UH, WHAT OUR GOAL IS AND, UH, TO, UH, UH, NOT LET THAT HAPPEN.
THERE'S A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH, UH, THAT, THAT WE SEE, WHICH I DON'T HAVE TIME TO DISCUSS RIGHT NOW.
MAYOR, IF THERE'S NO MORE, MORE COMMENTS, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? MR. HUTSON? RIDER? I DON'T KNOW.
I, I'VE REVIEWED THIS PROJECT.
I LIVE AND WORK VERY CLOSE TO THIS PROJECT.
I, UM, SEE THIS AS A, A POSITIVE FOR THE AREA.
AND SO I'M, I'M VERY FAVORABLY IMPRESSED WITH IT AND WOULD BE READY TO MAKE A MOTION ONCE ALL COMMENTS ARE MADE.
MR. BARRIOS, I, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR ONE QUESTION FOR STAFF REAL QUICK.
UM, MS. PETERS OR DAWN, UM, WHAT CAN WE CURRENTLY BUILD BY RIGHT THERE? BECAUSE I KNOW AT THE BEGINNING OF YOUR PRESENTATION AND YOU MENTIONED WHAT WAS ALLOWED AND THE SECONDARY USE WAS SINGLE FAMILY HOME ARE, CAN YOU EXPLAIN, WOULD BE THIS BE CONSIDERED? 'CAUSE THIS ISN'T MULTI-FAMILY, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT APARTMENTS, BUT IT'S NOT WHAT EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, TOWN HOMES AREN'T WHAT EVERYBODY WOULD CONSIDER.
CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT? IS THIS CHANGING? THE ZONING IS OFFICE, SO OUR OFFICE IS ONLY ALLOWED TO BE BUILT THERE.
THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN VISION DESIGNATED THIS AS A NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICE PLACE TYPE.
SO PRIMARY USE IS BEING NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, AND A SECONDARY BEING ATTACHED SINGLE FAMILY SECONDARY USE BEING TOWN HOMES.
SO THIS WOULD BE THIS SECONDARY UNDER OUR ENVISION RICHARDSON PLAN THAT WE APPROVED LESS THAN A YEAR AGO.
THAT'S THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE.
THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.
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MR. CI THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.IT'S SORT OF IN A SIMILAR VEIN.
I DON'T REALLY PLAN TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS.
I AM PRETTY FAVORABLY INCLINED TO IT, BUT, UM, JUST, YOU KNOW, IN RESPECT TO SOME OF THE CONCERNS MR. MOORE RAISED, UM, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT THERE WERE, YOU GUYS MENTIONED EARLIER IN THE, THE PRESENTATION, THERE WERE PLANS ORIGINALLY AND EVEN, UM, I THINK POTENTIAL LIKE OWNERSHIP AND THINGS LIKE THAT OF OTHER TYPES OF BUSINESSES.
AND FOR ONE REASON OR ANOTHER, THEY DIDN'T, THEY DIDN'T GET OFF THE GROUND, THEY DIDN'T CONSTRUCT.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, DON, I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS FIRST SELECTED, YOU AND I TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT A LOT OF THE COMPETITION WE HAVE WITH OTHER CITIES FOR SOME OF THE LIFE SCIENCE TYPE USES AND BIO BIOTECH AND HOW THAT'S, THAT'S A REALLY COMPETITIVE AREA.
COULD YOU GUYS, MAYBE JUST FOR, FOR THIS, THIS PUBLIC SPEAKER'S SAKE, JUST GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND AS TO SOME OF THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE'RE GONNA GO IN HERE, AND WHY OR WHY NOT? THEY MAY, MAY NOT HAVE MADE IT.
WELL, AND, AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE, UH, COUNCILMAN HUTCH WRITER TO WEIGH IN ON THIS AS WELL.
BUT, UH, BECAUSE I THINK, UH, THE METHODIST CAMPUS AND THE WAY THAT IT'S DEVELOPED, UM, HAS IMPACTED MAYBE A VISION OF CONTINUING THE ONE STORY, UM, KIND OF, UH, MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING, UM, SUITES THAT YOU SEE, UH, JUST TO THE, TO THE EAST HERE.
I THINK, UH, WITH, UH, METHODIST GROWING AND, AND, UH, BRINGING IN, UH, MORE OFFICE, MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDINGS ON ITS CAMPUS AND CONTINUING TO HAVE, UH, THOSE EXPANSION PLANS, A LOT OF THIS, UM, A LOT OF THE USERS HAVE GRAVITATED TOWARDS THE METHODIST CAMPUS JUST FOR ALL THE SYNERGIES THAT ARE AVAILABLE ON THAT CAMPUS AND FOR THE, THE COLLABORATION THAT CAN TAKE PLACE.
AND SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW, COUNCILMAN HUNTER, IF YOU YOU'D WANT TO ADD TO THAT? NO, I THINK, I THINK YOU SAID IT VERY, VERY WELL.
THERE'S BEEN, WE'VE, WE'VE CERTAINLY HAD A VERY TARGETED APPROACH OF BEING ON WHERE WE'RE AT.
AND SO, UM, DAVITA WENT DOWN, AS WAS MENTIONED, BUT IT'S ON THE PLANO SIDE OF THE, THE ROAD.
UM, WE WERE NEVER CONTACTED BY PLANO AS TO WHAT THEY WERE DEVELOPING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD.
SO WE'VE JUST BEEN A INTERESTED BYSTANDER TO BE VERY HONEST.
'CAUSE THEY'VE, THEY'VE NEVER TALKED TO US ONE TIME FROM A CITY PERSPECTIVE.
UM, BUT I, I DON'T, AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I DON'T, UH, KNOWING, KNOWING SAN REMO, KNOWING WHAT HAS GONE ON AROUND THERE.
PLUS THE OTHER ISSUE IS YOU'VE, THERE'S BEEN TREMENDOUS DEVELOPMENT, UM, IN, IN ABOUT THE CITY.
UH, YOU'VE GOT REMINGTON, YOU'VE GOT, UM, ENCOMPASS, YOU'VE GOT RENAISSANCE.
THERE'S QUITE A NUMBER OF PLACES THAT HAVE, THAT HAVE EXPANDED AND BUILT, UM, AROUND THE CITY AND HAVE FILLED IN FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE.
BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT, RATHER THAN, I, I THINK 15 PLUS YEARS AGO, THAT IDEA THAT WAS BEING DISCUSSED, OR PROBABLY 20 YEARS AGO NOW OF THIS, YOU KNOW, MAJOR, IT, IT JUST DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T WORK.
MOST, MOST PEOPLE WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY, ONCE THEY LEAVE THE HOSPITAL, THEY WANNA MOVE BACK TO THEIR MORE, THEIR, IF YOU WILL, THEIR COMMUNITY.
SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE A LOT OF THE DIFFERENT, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, UM, REMINGTON IS OVER JUST NOT TERRIBLY FAR FROM US, BUT IT'S VERY CLOSE TO A NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE YOU, THERE, THERE'S MORE OF THAT FEEL OF WANTING TO BE IN THE, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD VERSUS BEING IN A MAJOR MEDICAL COMPLEX.
IT'S, UM, HAVING, HAVING GROWN UP AND BEEN IN HOUSTON, IT, IT, IT BECOMES VERY CONGESTED, VERY CROWDED.
AND PEOPLE DON'T, DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO MOVE OR NOT MOVE, I SHOULDN'T SAY MOVE, BUT DON'T NECESSARILY WANNA RECEIVE SERVICES ONCE THEY LEAVE THE ACUTE CARE SETTING IN THAT, IN THAT AREA.
SO DOES THAT HELP? I MEAN, YEAH, NO, IT DEFINITELY PROVIDES, UH, THE ADDITIONAL CONTEXT I WAS LOOKING FOR.
WELL, THANK YOU, DON, AND THANK YOU COUNCILMAN, UH, KEN HUTCHIN FOR EXPLAINING.
THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS LOOKING AT.
AND ALSO MY OBSERVATION, LIMITED OBSERVATION WAS THAT THE WAY IT HAS BEEN DEVELOPED, THE WHOLE AREA, IT IT LOOKS LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE REALLY MUCH CONTROL IN THAT SIDE OF THE TOWN.
UH, ESPECIALLY PLAN IS PROVING AND PLANNING THINGS THAT'S TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT IT WOULD HAVE DONE NEAR TO ANOTHER HOSPITAL.
SO, UH, WITH THAT, I THINK THIS PLAN LOOKS REALLY GREAT.
UM, THE CONCEPT PLAN LOOKS REALLY WONDERFUL.
UH, I THINK WITH THAT, I THINK, UH, I WOULD GO AND SUPPORT THIS, UH, THIS PLAN.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MS. JUSTICE.
UM, I WANNA THANK THE SPEAKER FOR HIS COMMENTS.
UM, JUST SORT OF THINKING ABOUT TAKING OUR PLAN AND, AND WORKING THAT PLAN.
UM, AS, AS BEEN SAID TONIGHT, UM, SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED IS SORT OF, IS AN ENVISION ENVISIONED USE FOR THIS LAND AS PART OF OUR ENVISIONED RICHARDSON, UH, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND SO FOR, FOR THAT REASON, UM, I'M IN FAVOR OF IT.
UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S A SORT OF SYMBIOTIC RELATIONSHIP.
AND WE'VE HEARD THAT, YOU KNOW, THE HEALTHCARE
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FACILITY DOESN'T WANNA GO THERE.I THINK THERE WAS CHILDCARE, IF I RECALL CORRECT, IT WAS PURCHASED FOR CHILDCARE AT ONE POINT.
UM, AND SO I, YOU KNOW, I THINK, UH, FROM A BROADER CONCEPT OF OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT MISSING MIDDLE MARKET HOUSING, AND WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF VACANT LAND.
AND SO I THINK THAT THIS SORT OF CHECKS THAT BOX AS WELL.
AND SO I THINK FOR A LOT OF REASONS, THIS, THIS VERY MUCH FITS WITHIN THE PLAN THAT WE SPENT A LONG TIME WORKING ON.
UM, AND SO I, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT, THE FACT THAT IT'S AN HOA SHOULD BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR, UH, BOTH TO THE, THE BUSINESS THAT IS LOCATED TO THE EAST OF IT AND TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE NORTH OF IT.
SO, UM, I I, I'M IN FAVOR OF IT.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT, AGAIN, THIS CHECKS, THIS CHECKS SEVERAL BOXES, UM, FOR OUR, OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
I, UM, I THINK IT'S A GREAT PLAN.
THE FACT THAT THERE'S A MANDATORY HOA, UH, IT'S A, IT'S SOMETHING WE RECENTLY, UH, PART OF THE DIVISION RICHARDSON, WE, WE PLACED AS A SECONDARY.
MY ONLY TWO KIND OF HESITATIONS IS ONE, UH, THERE WAS CONCERN ABOUT THAT 40, YOU KNOW, IF I WERE ONE OF THE HOUSES THAT BACKED UP TO 45 FEET GOING THREE STORIES, I WOULD DEFINITELY BE HERE WITH MY NEIGHBORS RIGHT NOW.
UM, BUT THAT WOULD, I'M KIND OF HESITANT ON THAT.
AND I WILL SAY THIS, THIS KIND OF CUTOUT THAT THIS WHITE BOX THAT BELONGS TO COLLIN COUNTY, UM, ACCORDING TO OUR PICTURE THAT'S CURRENTLY LIKE A GRASSY AREA, I DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND.
AND HELP ME UNDERSTAND, BECAUSE MAYBE, I KNOW WE HAVE THAT GATE ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER HERE.
IS THAT THE NORTHEAST OH YEAH.
BUT IS THAT REQUIRED 'CAUSE OF FIRE? I MEAN, WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THAT GATE? 'CAUSE THERE'S NO ROAD THAT'S CURRENTLY SHOWING PLAN TO THAT COLLIN COUNTY PROPERTY.
DOES THAT MEAN THAT IF THERE'S A FIRE, WE HAVE OUR APPARATUSES, IT'S PREDOMINANTLY FOR MAINTENANCE.
SO LET ME, LET ME GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THAT, THAT PIECE OF LAND, UH, MAYOR DUBBY AND I ACTUALLY HAVE HAD THE CHANCE TO VISIT WITH TWO OF THE COLLIN COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.
UM, THE COUNTY IS, UH, WILLING TO, UH, CONTRIBUTE THAT LAND, UH, TO THE CITY.
UH, AND THEN THE CITY CAN DECIDE WHAT IT WOULD DO WITH IT.
SO WE'VE STARTED THOSE DISCUSSIONS WITH COLLIN COUNTY, OBVIOUSLY.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE, UM, IT WOULD ADD VALUE TO THIS PROJECT, UH, AS THEY COULD INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF MOVEMENT SPACE.
AND SO, UM, I DON'T THINK THAT COLLIN COUNTY IS INTERESTED IN NECESSARILY DEALING WITH THE DEVELOPER DIRECTLY.
UM, BUT WE'VE HAD A LONG, UM, WE ACTUALLY HAVE MAINTAINED THAT PROPERTY FOR COLLIN COUNTY FOR, UM, A NUMBER OF YEARS.
AND SO, UM, WE THINK THAT THEY'RE, UH, VERY WILLING PARTNERS IN TRYING TO MAKE THIS A BETTER OVERALL PROJECT.
AND SO, EXCUSE ME, IF THAT OCCURS, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT MAY, THAT LITTLE NORTH, UH, EAST CORNER THERE MAY EVOLVE AND, UM, THAT GATE MAY OR MAY NOT BE NECESSARY EVEN.
SO IF THAT, I GUESS THE QUESTION THERE IS, IS THAT CURRENTLY, LET'S ASSUME COLLIN COUNTY DECIDES NOT TO WORK WITH US ON THAT.
IS THAT GATE NECESSARY FOR MAINTENANCE? FOR MAINTENANCE, MM-HMM
SO IT'S NOT A FIRE ACCESS ISSUE? NO, IT'S A MAIN, HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT MAINTENANCE, I MEAN THE AC TO MOW THE YARD TO WEED EAT AROUND THE FENCE TO PICK UP TRASH.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE AN AC TRUCK IS COMING IN THERE OR A UTILITY TRUCK THAT'S SO THAT THE YARD GUY CAN GO AROUND AND, AND MAINTAIN THE PROPERTY.
SO IS THIS LIKE A WALKTHROUGH? THIS ISN'T A CAR FIX THROUGH ACCESS POINT.
IT, IT, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE A WALKTHROUGH WITH, IT LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING LARGER WHERE, WHERE YOU COULD PROBABLY GET A TRAILER BACK THERE IF YOU NEEDED TO.
SO IF THEY DO WORK WITH US AND WE WORK SOMETHING OUT HERE, UH, THAT WOULD BECOME SOME KIND OF COMMON GREEN SPACE.
I THINK THE, I THINK THE DEVELOPER SAID THAT HE WOULD EXPAND THE DOG PARK AND MAKE, MAKE MORE OPEN SPACE.
AND FOR THE RECORD, I DON'T, I DIDN'T SEE A PROBLEM WITH THE PARKING, SO, UH, I'LL, I'LL JUST ADD THAT 2 CENTS FOR WHATEVER THAT'S WORTH.
THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE.
IF COLLIN COUNTY DECIDES NOT TO DONATE IT, THEY, THEY'RE GONNA START MOWING IT.
I WAS GONNA SAY, DO WE SEND THEM A BILL? IS THAT HOW THAT WORKS? DO WE? YEAH.
ALRIGHT, I I HAVE ONE QUESTION, UM, FOR MS. PETERS.
I GUESS SO DID WE REACH OUT TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE WE ALWAYS DO, ARE 200 FEET OUT, DID, IS THERE ANYBODY 200 FEET OUT THAT IS OPPOSED TO THIS OTHER THAN MR. MOORE OR HOW MANY, HOW MANY NOS DID WE HAVE COMING BACK TO US? I DON'T THINK I HEARD THAT NUMBER.
SO MR. MOORE IS NOT WITHIN THE 200 FOOT BUFFER? UM, THERE ARE, I BELIEVE IS IT WHAT, TWO, TWO PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE THE, THE BUSINESS SIDE
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THAT ARE, WERE OPPOSED.AND CAN YOU SHARE WITH US WHAT, WHY THEY WERE OPPOSED TO IT? I, LIKE I MENTIONED BEFORE, I THINK IT WAS BASED ON THEM HAVING NOT VIEWED THE SITE PLAN AND SOME CONCERNS THAT THEY HAD ABOUT THE POTENTIAL CROSS AXIS BETWEEN THIS DEVELOPMENT AND THEIR DEVELOPMENT.
UM, BUT THAT IS NOT OCCURRING.
SO BECAUSE THERE WILL BE A MASONRY SCREENING WHILE SEPARATING THIS DEVELOPMENT FROM THEIR PROPERTIES.
APPLICANT, YOU WANT TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION? YEAH, I JUST WANNA MENTION THAT.
SO FOR THE, THE PROPERTIES THAT A BUT ON THE NORTH KIND OF DID THE OLD FASHIONED THING WHERE I, I I DRAFTED A LETTER WITH, WITH PULTE AND KNOCKED ON THEIR DOORS.
THEY DIDN'T ANSWER, SO I PUT IT IN THEIR MAILBOX.
THIS WAS A COUPLE WEEKS PRIOR TO THE, UH, THE CPC MEETING, UH, JUST TO REACH OUT TO, TO GET FEEDBACK.
UH, SO OUR CONDUIT'S BEEN THE, THE HOA PRESIDENT, THERE ARE NO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS, UM, MAY AND THE 200 FOOT BUFFER THAT ARE POSTED.
UM, LET ME ASK YOU ONE OTHER QUESTION.
YOU SUBMITTED A, UM, OPPORTUNITY FOR A TWO STORY VERSION OF THIS.
WHAT'S THE PROS AND CONS? WHY, IF WE HAVE SOMEONE SAYING WE WOULD PREFER IT TO BE TWO STORIES INSTEAD OF THREE STORIES, HOW DOES THAT IMPACT YOU AND WHY AND SO FORTH? SO, SO IT IS A WIDER PRODUCT.
THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS WE GOTTA MAKE THAT DECISION ON WHAT THE PRODUCTS ARE AND LOCK IN.
SO, SO WHEN WE DO THE PLATING, YOU'RE NOT DOING A, A REVIS OR PLAT.
UM, THE, THE PREFERENCE PULTE HAS IS TO DO THE THREE STORY.
THE TWO STORY WAS MORE IN RESPONSE TO THE COMPETITION OF WHAT BE'S DOING TO THE WEST.
SO IT'S NOT THEIR PREFERENCE, BUT IF THAT'S, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO THE WEST BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY LIKE THE TWO STORY, UH, IT'S SOMETHING THEY'LL CONSIDER, BUT THEY REALLY WANNA DO THE THREE STORY.
BUT YOU'RE, I GUESS, PROFITS PER SQUARE FOOT.
THEY COULD WORK ON A TWO STORY.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PUBLIC HEARING ZONING FILE 25 DASH ZERO SIX WITH THE AMENDED ORDINANCE AS WAS PRESENTED THIS EVENING.
GOT A MOTION MR. CORCORAN? SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING? SHOW OF HANDS, PLEASE.
[10. PUBLIC HEARING, ZONING FILE 25-07, AND CONSIDER ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF RICHARDSON, TEXAS, AMENDING THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE AND ZONING MAP OF THE CITY OF RICHARDSON, AS HERETOFORE AMENDED, TO GRANT A CHANGE IN ZONING BY GRANTING A SPECIAL PERMIT FOR A DRONE OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE CENTER FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1155 KAS DRIVE, RICHARDSON, TEXAS, ZONED PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT COLLINS/ARAPAHO TOD & INNOVATION DISTRICT (EMPLOYMENT SUB-DISTRICT).]
BRINGS US TO ITEM NUMBER 10, PUBLIC HEARING ZONING FILE 25 DASH OH SEVEN.CONSIDER ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF RICHARDSON, TEXAS, AMENDING THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE AND ZONING MAP OF THE CITY OF RICHARDSON TO GRANT A CHANGE IN ZONING BY GRANTING A SPECIAL PERMIT FOR A DRONE OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE CENTER FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1155 CAST DRIVE.
MR. MACER, UH, THANK YOU MAYOR.
UM, DEREK PETERS IS GONNA LEAD THIS, UH, BRIEFING FOR US AGAIN.
UM, I'VE ASKED DEREK TO PROVIDE, NO PUN INTENDED HERE, A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW
WHAT I'D REALLY LIKE TO ENCOURAGE THE COUNCIL TO DO IS, YOU'LL SEE OUR BRIEFING IS HEAVILY FOCUSED ON THE LAND USE COMPONENTS.
THE APPLICANT IS HERE, HAS A FAIRLY ELABORATE PRESENTATION OF THEIR OWN.
AND SO IF, IF, UH, YOU COULD, UH, ADDRESS ALL OF YOUR DRONE OPERATIONS, UH, AND DRONE RELATED QUESTIONS TO THE APPLICANT, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE WAY.
UM, DEREK HAS REALLY BECOME QUITE, UM, THE, UH, EXPERT ON DRONES, BUT WITH, UH,
BUT, UH, ALL SERIOUSNESS, THE APPLICANT IS PREPARED TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS, UH, ALL ALL THINGS DRONE OPERATIONS AND HOW THAT WOULD WORK.
AND SO IF WE COULD LEAVE THOSE TO, UH, THE APPLICANT, THAT'D BE GREAT.
SO ZONING FILE 25 0 7 IS A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL PERMIT BY THE APPLICANT, ZIPLINE INTERNATIONAL.
SO FIRST TO CREATE, GIVE YOU A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE TYPE OF DRONE TYPES THAT ARE OUT THERE.
THERE'S STANDARD DRONE TYPES OR RECREATIONAL COMMERCIAL AND COMMERCIAL DELIVERY.
THERE ARE SOME CHARACTERISTICS OF COMMERCIAL DELIVERY DRONES, WHICH WE'LL BE SPEAKING ABOUT TONIGHT.
SO, THOSE, UH, TYPES OF DRONES TYPICALLY FALL WITHIN A RANGE OF SIZES OF NOISE LEVELS, PAYLOAD CAPACITY AND SERVICE DISTANCE.
THE FAA OVERSEES THE REGULATION OF DRONES.
UM, THE FAA HAS ONLY APPROVED SIX COMMERCIAL DRONE DELIVERY LICENSES, AND THAT INCLUDES THE APPLICANT TONIGHT, ZIPLINE INTER ZIPLINE INTERNATIONAL.
THE STATE HAS ADDED ADDITIONAL PROVISIONS RELATED TO SECURITY AND PRIVACY CONCERNS.
THE, HOWEVER, THE FAA, AS I MENTIONED, PRIMARILY OVERSEES EVERYTHING RE RELATED TO THE, THE DRONE
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OPERATIONS.THAT IS THE AIRCRAFT ITSELF AND ALL ACTIVITY.
ONCE THE AIRCRAFT LEAVES THE GROUND, THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT IS A LI A LITTLE MORE LIMITED, OR IT IS LIMITED IN WHAT IT CAN REGULATE.
SO IT IS LIMITED TO GROUND-BASED OPERATIONS OF THE DRONE ACTIVITIES BASED ON LAND USE CONSIDERATIONS.
THE CITIES CANNOT REGULATE THE POWER SOURCE OF THE DRONES.
THE CITIES CAN REGULATE TAKEOFF IN LANDING TIMES, BUT AGAIN, IT IS MAINLY RELATED TO GROUND-BASED OPERATION CONSIDERATIONS.
THERE'S THREE TYPES OF JOAN FACILITIES IN GENERAL.
THOSE ARE OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE DELIVERY HUBS FROM RETAIL LOCATIONS OR DISTRIBUTORS.
AND THEN THE DELIVERY ENDPOINT FOR THE CONSUMERS.
TONIGHT WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THE FIRST COLUMN, OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE CENTERS.
SO YOU MAY REMEMBER EARLIER THIS YEAR, THE CITY VOTED TO AMEND THE COLLINS ARAPAHOE PLAN DEVELOPMENT, UH, EMPLOYMENT SUBDISTRICT STANDARDS TO ALLOW FOR A DRONE OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE CENTER UPON APPROVAL OF A SPECIAL PERMIT IN THAT AMENDMENT.
WE DID DEFINE A DRONES OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE CENTER AS AN AREA OF LAND OR A STRUCTURE INTENDED FOR STORAGE, STAGING, MAINTENANCE, AND OPERATIONS OF DRONES.
THAT INCLUDES THE EQUIPMENT, PERTINENT STRUCTURES AND AREAS NECESS NECESSARY TO OPERATE A DRONE, NOT LIMITED TO DOCKING STATIONS, CHARGING STATIONS, SAFETY AND STORAGE AREAS.
SO THAT, UH, JUST A REMINDER, THE DRONE AND OPERATIONS MAINTENANCE CENTER IS DISTINCT FROM A STANDARD DRONE RETAIL HUB WHERE THE DRONE WILL BE FLYING IN AND OUT TO MAKE DELIVERIES.
UH, AS PART OF THAT PD AMENDMENT, WE INCLUDED SUPPLEMENTAL USE REGULATIONS THAT IT SHALL BE AT LEAST 300 FEET FROM A SINGLE FAMILY OR MULTIFAMILY PROPERTY MAINTENANCE ACTIVITY SHALL OCCUR WITHIN THE BUILDING, AND ANY OUTSIDE STRUCTURES CANNOT EXTEND MORE THAN 10 FEET ABOVE THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE.
SO THE APPLICANT HAS PROPOSED A DRONE DOCKING STATION AND DRONE MAINTENANCE CENTER AT 11 CAST DRIVE.
THIS IS WITHIN THE EMPLOYMENT SUBDISTRICT OF THE COLLINS ARAPAHOE PD.
AND IT HAS, UM, IT IS A FIVE ACRE SITE AT 1155 CAST DRIVE.
IT'S BEEN DEVELOPED WITH A SINGLE STORY COMMERCIAL AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL BUILDING, AND IT'S ALSO SURROUNDED BY COMMERCIAL AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT.
HERE'S SOME SITE PHOTOS AS SEEN FROM THE FRONT.
THIS IS FROM CAST DRIVE AND THE SITE HAS TWO FRONTAGES.
SO THIS IS SEEN FROM GLENVILLE ROAD.
I'VE PROVIDED AN ARROW HERE THAT SHOWS WHERE THE EQUIPMENT WILL BE LOCATED IN THE UTILITY YARD, WHERE THE BUILDING WRAPS AROUND THE FRONT AND BEHIND WHERE THE BUILDING WRAPS AROUND.
THIS IS THE PROPOSED CONCEPT PLAN PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT.
THE DOCKING STATION WOULD BE LIMITED TO WHAT IS SHOWN HERE ON THE CONCEPT PLAN.
SO ZIPLINE INTERNATIONAL INTENDS TO OCCUPY AN OA SUITE SPACE IN THIS BUILDING WHERE THEY WILL USE A WILL THEY, WHERE THEY WILL USE, OR WHAT, WHERE THEY WILL UTILIZE AS A REGIONAL HUB FOR THEIR DRONE OPERATIONS IN THEIR DRONE NETWORK IN THE METROPLEX.
SO AT THAT LOCATION, THEY WILL HAVE CUSTOMER SERVICE ACTIVITIES, TRAINING ACTIVITIES, A SHOWROOM MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS ACTIVITIES WITHIN THE BUILDING.
AND THEN THEY WILL HAVE ONE DRONE DOCKING STATION OUTSIDE SO THAT THEY CAN TEST AND PERFORM MAINTENANCE ON DRONES.
I'LL ALSO ADD THAT AS PART OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE PD, ANY GROUND MOUNTED EQUIPMENT SHALL BE LOCATED IN THE REAR OR SIDE OF THE BUILDING AND IN A UTILITY YARD AND SHALL BE SCREENED.
AND THAT CAN BE SCREENED BY AN INTERVENING BUILDING.
SO THE PROPOSAL IS CONSISTENT WITH THE PD.
UM, IT'S ALSO CONSISTENT WITH THOSE SUPPLEMENTAL REQUIREMENTS THAT WE INCLUDED THAT REQUIRE THE PROPERTY TO BE AT LEAST 300 FEET FROM SINGLE FAMILY OR MULTIFAMILY.
IN THIS CASE, THE PROPERTY IS 1700 FEET FROM THE CLOSEST RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY OR MULTIFAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST.
CITY STAFF DID RECEIVE TWO PUBLIC STATEMENTS IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST.
THE, THE SPECIAL PERMIT IF APPROVED, WILL BE LIMITED TO ZIPLINE INTERNATIONAL AS THE OPERATOR.
UH, THE EQUIPMENT WILL BE LIMITED TO WHAT WAS SHOWN ON THE CONCEPT PLAN.
AND TONIGHT, SHOULD YOU, UH, MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ZONING FILE, YOU SHOULD INCLUDE THE ORDINANCE AS WELL.
'CAUSE THAT IS, UH, PROVIDED TO YOU AS WELL TONIGHT.
AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF MR. CORCORAN? HEY, THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.
I DID HAVE ONE, ONE QUICK QUESTION THAT HAD TO JUST I GO UP HERE REAL QUICK.
JUST TO CLARIFY, I GUESS WHAT WE'RE ON THE REGULATORY FRAMEWORK, SORT OF WHAT WE'RE ALLOWED TO DISCUSS AND, AND NOT DISCUSS OR HOW WE'RE ALLOWED TO MAKE THIS DECISION.
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JUST, YOU KNOW, SO ARE WE LEGALLY WE'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO CONSIDER THIS AS A LAND USE CONCERN AND ANYTHING THAT'S SORT OF A FLIGHT CONCERN WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO INCLUDE IN OUR REASONING FOR APPROVAL OR DENIAL OF THE SPECIAL PERMIT.UM, I, WE CAN INCLUDE COUNCILMAN BARRIO SAYS WE CAN INCLUDE ANYTHING IN OUR REASONING.
WELL, I, I, I WOULDN'T, UM, WELL, I DON'T THINK ANYTHING WOULD.
I MEAN, I, I THINK THINGS THAT WOULD BE LEGAL OR, OR FAIR ENOUGH.
WELL, I THINK THAT YOU CAN ASK QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT OF, UM, HOW THE OPERATIONS OF, UH, HOW, HOW THE, THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION CENTER WILL BE OPERATED, INCLUDING THINGS LIKE HOW MANY DRONES WOULD BE FLYING IN ON A REGULAR BASIS, WHAT, YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE THINGS RELATED TO IT.
I THINK WHAT, WHAT DEREK IS SAYING HERE IS WE CANNOT REGULATE THOSE THINGS.
I THINK IT'S PERFECTLY OKAY TO ASK QUESTIONS AROUND, BUT YOU CANNOT ADOPT, FOR INSTANCE, YOU CAN'T ADOPT A SPECIAL PERMIT AND TRY TO, UM, REGULATE SOMETHING THAT IS WITHIN THE FAS REGULATION AS PART OF THAT PERMIT.
SO I THINK IT'S, IT'S FAIR OF YOU TO ASK THE QUESTIONS RELATED TO, UM, THINGS THAT THE STATE OR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT MIGHT REGULATE, BUT YOU CAN'T ADOPT A SPECIAL PERMIT AND TRY TO MAKE A SPECIAL CONDITION SOMETHING THAT IS, UM, THAT WITHIN THE JURISDICTION REGULATE THE REGULATORY JURISDICTION OF THE FAA OR THE STATE.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? THESE ARE THE EXAMPLES DOWN THERE.
LIKE WE CAN'T REGULATE THE POWER SOURCE BECAUSE THE POWER SOURCE IS FAA.
THANK YOU, MR. UH, IT'S, UH, IT'S NOT A QUESTION.
I HEARD THAT MULTIPLE TIMES IN YOUR PRESENTATION AND BEFORE THEY'RE REQUESTING JUST ONE, ONE STATION, RIGHT? YES, THAT IS CORRECT.
OKAY, SO YOU, NO MORE QUESTIONS WE COULD ASK THE APPLICANT TO MM-HMM
COME FORWARD AND SHARE ANY THOUGHTS, ADDITIONAL ITEMS, HELP US BETTER UNDERSTAND.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS DE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION AND, UH, YEAH, LOOKING FORWARD TO KIND OF SHARING A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT OUR TECHNOLOGY.
UM, I THINK I PRESENTED TO SOME OF YOU MAYBE BEFORE.
SO, UH, MY NAME IS STEPHANIE COOK, UH, ZIPLINE.
3 3 3 CO WAY SOUTH SAN FRANCISCO CA 9 4 0 8 OH.
SO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ZIPLINE.
WE ARE THE WORLD'S LARGEST DRONE DELIVERY SERVICE.
TO DATE, WE'VE DONE MORE THAN 1.4 MILLION COMMERCIAL DRONE DELIVERIES AROUND THE WORLD.
UM, A STATISTIC I ALWAYS LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT IS THAT SOMEWHERE AROUND THE WORLD, EVERY DAY SOMEBODY IS RECEIVING A DELIVERY ONCE A MINUTE.
UH, OUR BACKGROUND, WE LIKE SAVE AND SAVING LIVES.
WE STARTED DOING DELIVERIES IN 2016 IN RWANDA.
AT THAT TIME, WE WERE SOLVING A REALLY CHALLENGING LOGISTICAL USE CASE.
UH, WE FOUND THAT WOMEN WERE LOSING THEIR LIVES EVERY DAY DUE TO LACK OF ACCESS TO BLOOD AFTER GIVING BIRTH.
AND SO WE SET OUT TO SOLVE THAT.
UM, WE NOW MANAGE A LARGE PORTION OF THE COUNTRY'S BLOOD SUPPLY.
UM, AND WE HAVE STUDIED BY THE WAR TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE REDUCED WOMEN'S IN, IN-HOSPITAL MATERNITY DEATH RATES BY MORE THAN 51%.
UM, AND WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF THAT, AND THAT KIND OF HELPED US EXPAND BOTH GEOGRAPHICALLY AND ALSO IN VOLUME.
UM, SO TODAY WE ARE OPERATING IN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT LOCATIONS AS SHOWN.
UM, WE ARE COMING TO THE DALLAS-FORT WORTH METRO TO LAUNCH AT SCALE.
UM, WE HAVE A PILOT GOING RIGHT NOW IN PEA RIDGE, ARKANSAS WITH WALMART.
UM, AND WE ACTUALLY JUST LAUNCHED AT ONE OF OUR STORES, UH, THAT WE ARE GONNA BE LAUNCHING AT IN DFW IN MESQUITE.
UM, WE'RE DOING DELIVERIES RIGHT NOW TO CUSTOMERS AROUND THE METRO, WHICH IS REALLY EXCITING.
UM, AND SO VERY EXCITING TO SEE RICHARDSON ON THE MAP HERE, UH, WHICH IS THE LOCATION WHERE WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE OUR REGIONAL HUB.
UM, AND SO WE ARE CURRENTLY IN THAT SPACE DOING CUSTOMER SUPPORT OPERATIONS, UM, AND, UH, RECEIVING MATERIALS.
UM, AND WE'D REALLY LIKE TO BE ABLE TO, UH, USE IT AS OUR DRONE OPERATIONS MAINTENANCE CENTER.
AND I'LL SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE IN A MINUTE ABOUT KIND OF WHAT WE WANNA DO IN THIS SPACE AND WHAT EXACTLY THOSE FLIGHTS ENTAIL.
SO, AS I MENTIONED, WE ARE REALLY EXCITED TO BE COMING TO SCALE AT DFW.
THIS IS A SYSTEM THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR THE PAST MORE THAN DECADE NOW.
UM, AND WE ARE REALLY EXCITED THAT IT'S KIND OF COMING HERE.
UM, WE HAVE ABOUT 20 SITES UNDER DEVELOPMENT, AS I MENTIONED, 10 APPROVED PERMITS ACROSS THE METRO, UM, AND FIVE SITES UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
WE ARE GONNA BE LAUNCHING ANOTHER SITE HERE IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.
UM, SO REALLY EXCITED TO KIND OF SEE OUR, OUR VISION, UH, COME TO LIFE.
AND, UH, WE'VE HAD A BUNCH OF REALLY POSITIVE FEEDBACK FROM CUSTOMERS THAT ARE EXCITED ABOUT IT AND ALREADY SAYING, WE WOULD NOT LIVE IN A CITY THAT DOES NOT HAVE ZIPLINE.
AND SO THAT IS MUSIC TO OUR EARS, AND WE REALLY HAVE DESIGNED THE SYSTEM TO KIND OF BLEND INTO THE BACKGROUND OF EV OF EVERYDAY LIVES AND SUPPORT, UM, AND PROVIDE A GREAT BENEFIT FOR RESIDENTS.
SO WHY DRONE DELIVERY? UH, WELL, A STATISTIC IS THAT THIS YEAR ALONE, THERE'LL BE 5 BILLION DELIVERIES FROM ON-DEMAND APPS IN THE US ALONE.
THAT DOESN'T, AND, AND ALL OF THAT RELIES ON INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S HUNDREDS OF YEARS
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OLD.SO CARS, TRAFFIC, A LOT OF CONGESTION, AND THAT'S WHY WE INVENTED PLATFORM TWO.
PLATFORM TWO IS HERE TO DELIVER PACKAGES IN UNDER 30 MINUTES FROM DOOR TO DOOR AND DO ALL OF THAT, GETTING CARS OFF THE ROAD, MEETING ROAD MAKING ROADS SAFER, UM, AND ALSO PROVIDING A LOT OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES.
FINALLY, UM, WE ALSO ARE EXCITED FOR THE USE CASE FOR FOLKS WHO MIGHT BE ELDERLY OR MIGHT NOT HAVE ACCESS TO A VEHICLE.
UM, WE'VE BEEN HEARING A LOT OF BENEFITS FROM MOMS WHO MIGHT BE AT HOME WITH YOUNGER CHILDREN, AND INSTEAD OF HAVING TO GET THEM IN THE, IN THE TRUCK AND DRIVE TO THE LOCAL SUPERMARKET, EVERYTHING CAN BE ORDERED VERY QUICKLY.
SO WHAT DOES THE PLATFORM LOOK LIKE? UH, REALLY IT'S KIND OF A TWO PART ARCHITECTURE SYSTEM.
UM, SO THE LARGER AIRCRAFT STAYS AT 300 FEET AT ALL TIMES DURING DELIVERIES, AND THEN THAT SMALLER AIRCRAFT GETS LOWERED DOWN TO MAKE A DELIVERY.
UM, AND I'M GONNA SKIP THROUGH THIS JUST TO MOVE FORWARDS TO KIND OF SOME OF THE MAIN CONCERNS THAT WE TYPICALLY HEAR WHEN WE PRESENT ON THE TECHNOLOGY.
UM, THOSE ARE AROUND SOUND, PRIVACY AND SAFETY.
SO TYPICALLY, IN TERMS OF SOUND, WHAT WE LIKE TO SAY IS THAT WITH THIS TWO PART ARCHITECTURE SYSTEM, UM, IT IS DESIGNED SO THAT THE LARGER AIRCRAFT IS KIND OF FAR FURTHER AWAY FROM THE GROUND.
UM, AND THEREFORE THE SOUND IS REALLY, UM, NOT AS LOUD AS ONE WOULD EXPECT.
UM, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CUSTOMERS AND FOLKS KIND OF SAY THAT THEY DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT THE DELIVERY WAS COMING UNTIL THE APP WAS NOTIFYING THEM, WHICH IS REALLY AWESOME.
UM, WE ALSO HAVE OPTIMIZED NOT ONLY THE SOUND INTENSITY, BUT ALSO THE SOUND PROFILE OF OUR PROPELLERS SO THAT IT SOUNDS MORE LIKE A FAN.
UM, AND THEN FINALLY, WE RANDOMIZED FLIGHT PATTERNS, SO WE'RE NOT, UH, REPEATEDLY EXPOSING THE SAME NEIGHBORHOODS.
SO WHETHER WE ARE DELIVERING OR DOCKING, UH, OUR SOUND PROFILE IS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 53 TO 64 DECIBELS, WHICH PLACES US SOMEWHERE AROUND THE, THE SOUND THAT YOU WOULD HEAR OF A CAR PASSING AT 300 FEET.
SO TO DATE, UH, WE HAVE SAFELY FLOWN MORE THAN A HUNDRED MILLION MILES.
AND ALL THAT IS THANKS TO A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT FACTORS.
UH, FIRST OF ALL, HOW WE DESIGN.
SO WE BUILT IN, UH, CRITICAL SYSTEM REDUNDANCIES.
IF ONE, UH, COMPONENT, CRITICAL COMPONENT WERE TO FAIL, THERE'S ANOTHER ONE TO BACK IT UP.
UH, WE'VE ALSO DESIGNED RIGOR, UH, RELIABLE MATERIALS, AND WE TEST VERY RIGOROUSLY.
UH, WE HAVE RANCHES IN ALL OVER THE US, ONE IN WYOMING, WHERE WE TEST IN VERY COLD WEATHER, STRONG WINDS, HEAVY PRECIPITATION.
UM, AND WE'VE TRULY DONE THAT SO WE CAN BE PREPARED FOR THE CRAZY WEATHER HERE IN TEXAS.
UM, UH, SO IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE OPERATE, AS ERICA MENTIONED, WE ARE FULLY CERTIFIED BY THE FAA, SO WE OPERATE SIMILAR TO ANY MAJOR AIRLINE.
UM, AND THAT REALLY REQUIRES US TO HOLD VERY HIGH SAFETY STANDARDS.
UM, AND OUR FLEET IS EXPERTLY MANAGED AND TRACKED 24 7.
SO ALTHOUGH EACH OF OUR, UH, AIRCRAFT ARE FULLY AUTONOMOUS, THEY ARE MANAGED AND MONITORED AT ALL TIMES.
UM, AND WE, BEFORE ANY DRONE WERE TO TAKE OFF, UH, WE HAVE 500 PLUS AUTOMATED PRE-FLIGHT SAFETY INSPECTIONS.
UM, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE ON BOARD FLIGHT IQ, WHICH IS OUR AUTONOMY AND PERCEPTION SUITE.
AND IT'S SIMILAR TO KIND OF HOW CARS HAVE BACKUP SENSORS.
UM, OUR AIRCRAFT ARE EQUIPPED WITH FLIGHT IQ, UH, WHICH ESSENTIALLY IS A COMBINATION OF SENSORS, BOTH VISUAL AND ACOUSTIC, THAT ALLOW US TO DETECT OBSTACLES BOTH IN THE SKY AND IN THE GROUND.
SO, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN MAKING A DELIVERY, IF A CUSTOMER'S PET IS IN THE BACKYARD, IT'LL DETECT THAT HOLD AND MAKING THE DELIVERY UNTIL THE ITEM IS SAFE AND CLEAR TO MAKE THAT DELIVERY.
UM, IN ADDITION, WE APPLY INDUSTRY STANDARD TOOLS TO BLUR, UH, PEOPLE'S FACES AND VISUAL DATA.
UM, WE CANNOT ZOOM OR WE POINTED IN A SPECIFIC DIRECTION.
UM, AND ALL OF THAT IS BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT IF WE ARE NOT QUIET AND WE DON'T, UH, ADHERE TO ALL OF THESE PRIVACY PRINCIPLES, UM, WE, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN SCALE AND BE SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE FEEL COMFORTABLE RECEIVING IN THEIR BACKYARDS.
SO, UM, I'M GONNA DIVE INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL HERE ON EXACTLY, UH, THE DOMC OR JOINT OPERATION MAINTENANCE CENTER AT 1155 CASH DRIVE.
UM, WE HAVE LEASED OUT A SUITE OF IT, SO THIS IS KIND OF A, A ROTATED VIEW IF YOU WANT.
UM, BUT WE'RE REALLY EXCITED THAT THIS SPACE IS GONNA HOST A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT SUPPORT FUNCTIONS.
UH, NOTABLY WE WILL HAVE, UH, A NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES WORKING IN MAINTENANCE OPERATIONS.
THAT'S KIND OF THE MAIN FOCUS HERE.
UM, BUT WE ARE ALSO GONNA HAVE SOME SUPPORT GROUPS.
SO CUSTOMER SUPPORT, UM, A SHOWROOM, WHICH WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT.
THERE'S GONNA BE SOME TRAINING SPACE FOR NEW EMPLOYEES.
UM, AND AS WE ONBOARD NEW TEAM MEMBERS, UH, THE NEW DEPLOYMENTS, SO CONSTRUCTION REAL ESTATE GROUP IS GONNA BE THERE.
UH, WE'LL ALSO HAVE SOME TECHNICAL WRITING FOLKS, UM, AND A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT GROUPS ARE GONNA USE THIS HUB.
THIS IS GONNA BE KIND OF OUR HEADQUARTERS HERE IN THE DFW METRO.
NOW, I KNOW THERE'S SOME QUESTIONS AROUND, UH, WHAT EXACTLY THE SITE PLAN LOOK LIKE AND OUR, UH, DRONE DOCKING TOWER.
UM, SO I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT HERE.
UM, AS DEREK HAS SHOWED, THIS IS THE LOCATION WHERE WE'RE PROPOSING PUTTING THAT DOCK.
IT'S ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE BUILDING, UM, AND IT'S KIND OF NATURALLY CONCEALED BY THE, UH, SHAPE OF THE BUILDING.
UM, THIS IS A RENDERING TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
IT IS, UH, THE HEIGHT OF THE TOWER IS ABOUT 28 FEET, WHICH IS LESS THAN THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING.
UM, THEY ARE GONNA BE TWO DOCKS ON THIS TOWER.
SO WE CALL IT A DOUBLE DOCK TOWER.
UH, WE KIND OF COMPARE IT TO A FANCY LIGHT POLE.
IT'S VERY MINIMAL CONSTRUCTION.
IT'S A BALLASTED FOUNDATION, PRETTY MUCH A STEEL BOX THAT GETS FILLED WITH GRAVEL.
AND THEN WE HAVE, UH, ONE POWER CONNECTION AND ETHERNET CONNECTION TO IT.
UM, AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS THINKING WHAT KIND OF FLIGHTS ARE GONNA HAPPEN? IT'S NOT EXACTLY THE
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KIND OF FLIGHTS ARE YOU'RE THINKING.MOST OF OUR MAINTENANCE OPERATIONS ARE GONNA HAPPEN INSIDE OF THE BUILDING.
UM, AND THEN ESSENTIALLY BEFORE OUR, OUR AIRCRAFT ARE GONNA BE TRANSPORTED TO SITE VIA VEHICLE.
UM, SO THE REASON WHY WE WANT THIS DOCKING STATION IS SO THAT WE CAN DO VALIDATION FLIGHTS ON OUR AIRCRAFT BEFORE WE DRIVE THEM BACK TO, UM, OUR CUSTOMER SITES.
SO, UM, WELL, I GUESS WE'RE MISSING ONE SLIDE.
I HAD ANOTHER SLIDE IN HERE, BUT THAT'S OKAY.
SO ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO, UH, INSTALL, UH, PUT AN AIRCRAFT ON THE DOCK.
IT WOULD THEN TAKE OFF FROM THE DOCK, UM, AND THEN PRETTY MUCH WITHIN A COUPLE OF SECONDS COME BACK ONTO THAT DOCK.
SO IT'S REALLY A, A DOCKING, UNDOING AND DOCKING PROCEDURE IS WHAT WE CALL IT.
UM, SO IT WILL NOT BE TAKING OFF ABOVE THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING.
UM, AND WE'RE REALLY NOT ANTICIPATING HOW TO DO A HUGE VOLUME OF THOSE.
UM, IT'S JUST KIND OF IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO VALIDATE SOME OF THE MAINTENANCE THAT WE WOULD'VE DONE ON THE AIRCRAFT.
UM, AND THE MAIN REASON FOR THAT IS THAT WE DON'T RIGHT NOW HAVE PARTNERS KIND OF WITHIN, UH, OUR SERVICE REGIONS THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO SERVE FROM THIS LOCATION ANYWAYS.
AND THE MAIN PURPOSE OF THIS HUB IS FOR MAINTENANCE PROCEDURES.
UM, SO I'M HOPING THAT ANSWERS A NUMBER OF YOUR QUESTIONS.
LAST BUT NOT LEAST, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
WE HAVE ENGAGED WITH A NUMBER OF OUR NEIGHBORS CLOSE BY.
UM, WE ACTUALLY HAD A GREAT CONVERSATION WITH FEED MY STARVING CHILDREN WHO ARE LOCATED RIGHT, VERY CLOSE TO US.
UM, AND THEY WERE PARTICULARLY EXCITED TO HEAR ABOUT SOME OF THE WORK THAT WE'D BE DOING IN AFRICA.
UM, AND THAT KIND OF ALIGNED A LOT WITH THEIR VISION.
UM, SO YEAH, YOU MIGHT BE TRYING TO READ WHAT'S ON THE SCREEN.
IT SAYS, THANK YOU FOR COMING IN.
I LIKE HOW YOU'RE NOT JUST TRYING TO CHANGE THE WORLD, BUT ACTUALLY DOING SOMETHING TO CHANGE THE WORLD.
SO WE TAKE STEM ENGAGEMENT, UM, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT VERY SERIOUSLY.
WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT BEFORE WE LAUNCH IN A METRO, UH, PEOPLE ARE EXCITED ABOUT OUR SERVICE, UNDERSTAND IT, UM, AND HAVE THE CHANCE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
SO WE ALSO HAVE AN EMAIL ADDRESS WHERE WE RECEIVE, UM, INQUIRIES REGULARLY.
AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OF QUE ANY QUESTIONS THAT, UM, YOU ALL MIGHT HAVE TONIGHT.
THAT WAS A GOOD, GOOD PRESENTATION.
AND YOU KNOW, I, I ALWAYS AM ADMIRE, UH, INTERESTED IN NEW TECHNOLOGY AND, AND THINGS THAT ARE INEVITABLE FOR THE FUTURE IS THIS SORT OF GIVES US, UH, AN INDICATION OF WHERE THINGS WILL GO.
AND I HAVE A, YOU ANSWERED A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS BY THE WAY,
I HAVE A, I HAVE A BULLET OF SEVERAL BULLETS HERE, BUT YOU KNOCKED OUT SOME OF THEM, BUT I MIGHT TOUCH A LITTLE BIT ON IT, A COUPLE OTHERS.
UM, RIGHT NOW YOU SAID YOU'RE OCCUPYING THE BUILDING.
HOW MANY EMPLOYEES ARE IN THE BUILDING AT THE MOMENT? YEAH.
UM, SO WHAT WE ARE ANTICIPATING RIGHT NOW IS WE ARE AIMING TO GROW KIND OF OUR MAINTENANCE AND CUSTOMER SUPPORT TEAM PRIMARILY.
AND AT THE, WE'RE PROBABLY, WE'RE TARGETING SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 20 TO 30 EMPLOYEES.
THE SPACE OBVIOUSLY HAS CAPACITY FOR A LOT MORE THAN THAT.
UM, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW.
SO IT, IT TAKES ABOUT 20 TO 30 EMPLOYEES TO, TO MANAGE THIS OPERATION AT THIS TIME OR TO HANDLE THE, THE DELIVERIES OF THE, AT THIS TIME WITH THE, WITH THE VOLUME THAT WE'RE EXPECTING.
UM, BUT WE'RE HOPING TO GROW THAT AS WE EXPAND OVER THE METRO.
WELL, I WAS JUST KINDA LOOKING AT THAT.
FOR ANYBODY THAT'S LISTENING ABOUT, IS THERE GONNA BE INCREASED TRAFFIC THERE? AND HOW MUCH, SO 25 TO 30 EMPLOYEES IS, WELL, THAT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A LOT TO ME, SO, UM, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THERE'S A LARGE INCREASE OF, OF TRAFFICKING THERE.
UM, HOW ABOUT THE DISTANCE OF DELIVERY? HOW, HOW FAR, AND YOU MAY HAVE ANSWERED THIS.
I KNOW YOU'RE GOING REALLY QUICK, QUICK, BUT HOW, UH, WHAT'S THE DISTANCE OF, UH, A DRONE DELIVERY? YEAH, LEMME JUMP BACK TO THAT HERE.
'CAUSE I, I DIDN'T SPEND ENOUGH TIME EXPANDING ON THAT.
CAN I, CAN I BRING UP ONE ISSUE THOUGH? UH, COUNCILMAN DORIAN, THEY'RE NOT DOING ANY DELIVERY AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
SO THE ONLY THING WE'RE CONSIDERING TONIGHT IS THE, THE ACTUAL, UM, TESTING DOCKING STATION.
SO, I, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERY, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE HERE IS THAT VERY LOUD AND CLEAR.
THAT'S ALL WE'RE DISCUSSING TONIGHT, IS JUST THE DOCKING STATION.
NO DELIVERIES IN THE CITY OF SHIP CENTER.
'CAUSE I, WE'VE, WE'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT DRONES.
SO COUNCILMAN DORIAN, I WOULD, I WOULD BE CAUTIOUS AND, AND 'CAUSE I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO SEE THIS AND GET MISCONSTRUED AS TO WHAT, WHAT WE'RE CONSIDERING TONIGHT.
AND, AND THANK YOU FOR THAT REMINDER.
AND I, I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS NOT A DELIVERY SERVICE AT THE MOMENT.
I'M JUST TRYING TO GET A BIG PICTURE OF, OF COURSE, WHAT POTENTIALLY COULD HAPPEN.
UM, ON THE, UH, YOU SAID THERE WAS, UH, UH, FOR THE DOCKING STATIONS ON THE SOUND DECIMALS, HOW MANY DECIMALS DOES THAT PROVIDE? YEAH, SO THE DOCKING STATION, WHEN DOCKING AND UNDOING, IT'S ABOUT 53 TO 64 DECIBELS.
IN THIS CASE, THE ZIPS WON'T HAVE PAYLOAD, SO IT'LL BE AROUND THAT 53 DECIBEL MARK.
HOW MANY, UH, ARE DOCKING AT ONE TIME? SO BECAUSE WE, WE'VE GOT THE DOUBLE DOCK.
UM, BUT BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BE MAINLY WE'RE USING IT FOR MAINTENANCE PROCEDURES, WE'LL LIKELY, I BELIEVE JUST HAVE ONE AIRCRAFT AT A TIME.
I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS AND I FULLY UNDERSTAND WE'RE NOT DOING DELIVERIES.
UM, I, I ALSO FULLY UNDERSTAND WE
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CANNOT LIMIT POWER SUPPLY, BUT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT REDUNDANCIES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.FIRST OF ALL, I'LL SAY I LOVE THE IDEA OF DRONES.
UH, I PEOPLE SAY, WHAT'S THE FUTURE? I THINK IT'S MODERN.
IT'S NOT LOOKING FORWARD TO THE FUTURE.
AND WE AS A CITY THAT'S, AND AS THIS COUNCIL AND FUTURE COUNCILS AND OTHER CITIES HAVE TO DECIDE, YOU KNOW, MAKE THAT DECISION HOW WE APPROACH THIS, UM, POWER SUPPLY.
UM, AGAIN, NOT TO LIMIT POWER, BUT I'M ASSUMING THEY'RE RECHARGEABLE BATTERIES.
WHAT, WHAT ARE THE REDUNDANCIES BUILT INTO POWER SUPPLIES OR HOW DOES THAT WORK? UM, YEAH, GOOD QUESTION.
UM, I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON, ON THE DETAILS THERE.
BUT I DO KNOW THAT THERE IS REDUNDANCIES IN TERMS OF THE BATTERY.
UM, AND, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF BEN, IF YOU HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON THAT, I CAN GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT.
BUT I DEFINITELY, I KNOW THAT THERE'S REDUNDANCIES THERE FOR SURE.
NOW, I KNOW IN MY PREVIOUS CAREER, I USED TO DO OVER 120 FLIGHTS A YEAR.
AND I KNOW UNDER WEATHER, I WAS ALWAYS BEING DELAYED IN AND OUT OF DALLAS AREA BECAUSE OF WIND OR RAIN OR WHATEVER THE WEATHER WAS THAT DAY, ESPECIALLY IN THE SPRING.
AND THE FALL, A DRONE IS MUCH SMALLER AND I'M BY NO MEANS A DRONE EXPERT.
UM, DOES THE FA REGULATE WHAT YOU COULD FLY UNDER? I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY A SMALL DRONE HAS DIFFERENT CAPABILITIES OF SOMETHING, WHAT I WOULD CALL A LARGER DRONE.
LIKE WHAT YOU WERE SHOWING IN THE PICTURE THAT MIGHT BE THE SIZE OF THE TABLE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
ARE, IS THERE CERTAIN WEATHER CONDITIONS? CAN YOU SPEAK TO KIND OF WHAT THEIR ABILITY IS WITHIN WEATHERS? LIKE, IS THERE SUCH A, HEY, THE WIND'S ABOVE 20 MILES AN HOUR, IT'S NO FLY.
CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT? YEAH, SO THERE ARE DEFINITELY CERTAIN METRICS WHERE WE WON'T FLY.
UM, IT'S VERY WEATHER DEPENDENT, OBVIOUSLY ON, ON EACH OF THE SPECIFIC LOCATIONS WHERE WE'RE OPERATING.
UM, UM, WE, WE, WE'VE TESTED A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT CONDITIONS AND WHAT WE AIM TO DO IS TEST IT TO THE, THE SYSTEM'S EXTREMES.
UM, SO FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF OUR WRENCHES IN WYOMING, WE'VE TESTED IT TO, WE'VE BEEN FLYING PRETTY MUCH DURING DELIVERIES AND SNOW CONDITIONS, SO BELOW, VERY MUCH BELOW FREEZING.
UM, WE CAN ALSO DELIVER IN VERY, VERY STRONG WINDS, ALMOST GALE FORCE WINDS.
SO WHAT WE FOUND IS THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY ABLE TO DELIVER IN CONDITIONS TO THE POINT WHERE CARS ALMOST WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DRIVE IN THOSE CONDITIONS.
UM, AND SO I WAS ACTUALLY AT ONE OF OUR, UM, TEST CENTERS RECENTLY WHERE WE ARE TESTING THEM, THE, THE AIRCRAFT THEMSELVES IN WIND CHAMBERS, UM, AND MAKING SURE TO KIND OF PUSH THE SYSTEM TO ITS LIMITS.
AND WE WORK REALLY CLOSELY WITH THE FAA ON THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE COMMUNICATING, UH, KIND OF WHAT OUR LIMITS ARE AND, AND WHERE WE CAN OPERATE.
I WOULD ASSUME SIMILAR TO IF I HAD A SMALL LITTLE CESSNA PLANE VERSUS A BIG, YOU KNOW, 7 47, DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF DRONE, FA A SAYS THIS DRONE IS, IS, UH, ABLE TO FLY IN THESE CONDITIONS, THIS DRONE'S ABLE TO FLY.
IS THAT SIMILAR TO THAT? LIKE IT WOULD BE ON A PLANE? YEAH.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE, OR IS IT MORE OF A PERSONAL DECISION WITHIN YOUR CORPORATION SAYING, WELL, THIS IS WHERE OUR LIABILITY LIES, OR THIS IS WHERE YEAH.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE ARE MULTIPLE LAYERS TO THAT.
UM, I THINK OVERALL THAT MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT THE FAA REGULATES, UH, AND LOOKS AT OUR OPERATIONS IN TERMS OF OUR SAFETY METRICS.
SO WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SHOW THAT WE CAN DELIVER AND WE CAN FLY SAFELY IN CERTAIN CONDITIONS.
BUT THEN IT COMES DOWN TO WE HAVE WHAT WE CALL PICS OR REMOTE PILOTS IN COMMAND AT EACH OF OUR DIFFERENT LOCATIONS, PARTICULARLY AT LAUNCH TIME.
UM, AND THEN WHO WILL BE MONITORING REMOTELY AND WHO CAN DETERMINE BASED ON THE SPECIFIC WEATHER CONDITIONS THAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING AT EACH SITE, WHETHER IT'S SAFE TO FLY OR NOT.
UH, YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING CALLED FLIGHT IQ.
AND I, I'M JUST VERY FASCINATED BY HOW THESE WORK NAVIGATION, SO I'M A DRONE PILOT.
IS IT, AND I'M ASSUMING THERE'S A BUNCH OF DRONES.
IS IT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF LIKE OUR PD HAS SOME SMALLER DRONES, RIGHT.
WE HAVE A GUY WHO'S, OR AN OFFICER OR, UH, WHO IS TRAINED IN THIS AND HE'S GOT A REMOTE CONTROL AND HE'S ABLE TO MANAGE THIS DRONE, EITHER, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH A HOUSE OR ABOVE A YARD, UH, TO, TO ACCOMPLISH YOUR GOALS.
IS IT SINGLE PILOT, SINGLE DRONE, OR IS FLIGHT IQ KIND OF LIKE A AI ASSISTED FLYING, KIND OF LIKE A AUTOPILOT, LIKE A PILOT MIGHT USE ON A LARGE PLANE? YEAH, SO THE AIRCRAFT ARE FULLY AUTONOMOUS.
UM, THE, THERE'S A RATIO OF KINDA RPI CS TWO AIRCRAFT.
UM, OUR PLATFORM, ONE THAT WE'VE BEEN OPERATING IN AFRICA FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, HAS A VERY HIGH RATIO.
I THINK IT'S ABOUT 20 PILOTS TO ONE AIRCRAFT.
UM, AT LAUNCH HERE, I THINK WE'RE CONSERVATIVE LOOKING AT MAYBE A QUARTER OR HALF OF THAT.
UM, AND KIND OF EXPANDING AS WE GROW.
UM, YOU MENTIONED THE, THE KIND OF MANUAL CONTROLS.
UM, IN OUR CASE, THERE'S NOBODY KINDA MANUALLY CONTROLLING IT.
THE, THE AIRCRAFT ARE FULLY AUTONOMOUS.
SO THEY, THE FLIGHT IQ, THEY, THEY'RE SMART ENOUGH THAT THEY CAN NAVIGATE WITHIN THE ENVIRONMENT, UM, AND, UH, DETECT OBSTACLES AND BE ABLE TO NAVIGATE THEIR WAY VIA CELLULAR AND GPS TO THE DELIVERY LOCATIONS.
EVEN THE TAKEOFF AND LANDINGS.
SO UNLIKE A PILOT THAT MAY TAKE TAKE OVER CONTROLS THAT TAKE OFF AND LANDING, THIS IS FULLY AUTONOMOUS.
UM, YOU MENTIONED A VALIDATION FLIGHT, WHICH IS WHAT THE DOCKING STATION WILL BE USED FOR.
UM, MY UNDERSTANDING YOU, YOU SAID THAT, UM, THEY WILL BE USED TO TEST IT, WHICH MAKES SENSE.
RIGHT? IF I TAKE MY CAR TO A MECHANIC, I WANT THEM TO BE ABLE TO DRIVE IT AROUND THE BLOCK AND MAKE SURE
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EVERYTHING WORKS PROPERLY.UM, ONCE THAT TAKES OFF FROM THE ACTUAL DOCKING STATION, ONCE IT LIFTS, YOU KNOW, AN INCH OFF THE, OFF THE GROUND, WE HAVE NO ABILITY.
'CAUSE THAT'S NOW FAA, RIGHT? BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO CLEAR THAT THROUGH FA.
SO WE HAVE NO ABILITY TO SAY THAT COULD GO X AMOUNT OF FEET ABOVE OR BELOW, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY NOT GO ABOVE IT CAN'T GO UP 400 FEET.
SO ALTHOUGH WE HAVE NO ABILITY TO CONTROL TO, TO REGULATE THAT, CAN YOU SPEAK TOWARDS WHAT IS NORMAL OPERATIONS FOR YOU? MM-HMM
AND SO THE, THE AIRCRAFT, JUST TO CLARIFY THE AIRCRAFT REALLY, THEY ONLY HAVE THE ABILITY TO TAKE OFF FROM THE DOCK.
SO THEY WOULD NEVER BE TAKEN OFF FROM THE GROUND.
UM, AND WITH THE UN UNDOING AND DOCKING, THEY WOULD BE ESSENTIALLY UN UNDOING THEMSELVES BECAUSE THE WAY THEY LATCHES FROM ABOVE.
SO COMING OUT, UM, UP IN KIND OF A C SHAPE PATTERN, AND THEN THEY WOULD IMMEDIATELY REDOC AND YEAH.
THE WAY THE FAA REGULATES AND THEN YEAH, KIND OF COMING OFF AND THEN BACK DOWN AGAIN INTO THE DOCK.
UM, F FA THE FAA REGULATES EVERYTHING ABOVE A BLADE OF GRASS IS THE WAY THAT I'VE BEEN EXPLAINED, UM, KINDA HOW IT WORKS.
NOW MY, UM, YOU KNOW, AS WE, OBVIOUSLY THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE EXPERIENCED AND HAD A CASE LIKE THIS.
UM, I LOVE THE IDEA OF THE TECHNOLOGY.
LET'S SAY, UM, HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE FEDERAL ON, AND YOU DON'T WORK FOR THE FAA, SO SHE IS, YOU KNOW, BUT OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE SOME UNDERSTANDING BECAUSE IT'S PART OF YOUR BUSINESS.
UM, HELP ME UNDERSTAND IF WHEN A PLANE GOES DOWN, WHAT IS IT? N-T-S-B-F-A, THEY KIND OF DO US, ARE Y'ALL REQUIRED IF IT GOES DOWN IN MY BACKYARD, ARE Y'ALL REQUIRED TO REPORT THAT TO THE FA THAT, HEY, A DRONE JUST CAME DOWN IN MY BACKYARD AND YEAH.
CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT? UH, YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
UM, EVERY MAJOR SAFETY INCIDENT.
THE, UH, I'LL, ONE THING I DIDN'T HIGHLIGHT DURING THE PRESENTATION IS THAT OUR, BOTH THE AIRCRAFT AND THE THE SMALLER DELIVERY ZIP ARE EQUIPPED WITH PARACHUTES.
SO IN THE EVENT THAT THEY DID HAVE TO, FOR SOME REASON COME DOWN, UM, THEY WOULD LAND KIND OF GENTLY LIKE A SKYER WITH A PARACHUTE ESSENTIALLY.
UM, BUT YEAH, ONE, WE WOULD BE THE FIRST TO BE NOTIFIED.
WE WOULD KNOW IMMEDIATELY AND WE WOULD HAVE SOMEBODY COME TO THE SCENE.
WE ALSO, BEFORE, UH, WE LAUNCHED KIND OF IN TERMS OF THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, WE ALSO ENGAGED VERY CLOSELY WITH PD, UH, FIRE DEPARTMENT, POLICE DEPARTMENT, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE COMMUNICATED AND HAVE A FIRST RESPONDER PLAN, UM, AS TO KIND OF HOW WE WOULD ADDRESS SOMETHING LIKE THAT IF IT WOULD HAPPEN.
UM, BUT IF IT WAS A MAJOR SAFETY INCIDENT, THEN THE FA A DOES GET NOTIFIED.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE THRESHOLD IS.
UM, BUT I BELIEVE THAT THEY, THEY DO GET NOTIFIED.
SO IF YOU GO TO RETRIEVE, LET'S SAY FOR EXAMPLE, A DRONE LAND MM-HMM
IT PARACHUTES INTO MY BACKYARD OF MY BACKYARD COUNCIL BARRIOS, IT HELPS ME UNDERSTAND THIS COUNCILMAN HUTCHER RIDER, YOU CAN WAIT YOUR TURN.
BUT RIGHT NOW I'VE GOT, I CAN ASK YOU A QUESTION.
I'M, BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IS I DO NOT WANNA CATCH YOU AS THE SIR.
YOUR TURN GUYS, GUYS, I'M JUST TRYING TO POINT HERE.
MAYOR, I KNOW YOU'RE ASKING, I KNOW YOU'RE ASKING THIS.
LET HIM FINISH THIS QUESTION, PLEASE.
I DON'T WANT TO CONFUSE THE PUBLIC.
SO IF THIS WERE TO GO DOWN MY BACKYARD MM-HMM
DOES THE FA GIVE YOU AUTHORITY TO COME INTO, UH, MY BACKYARD TO RETRIEVE THAT? OR DOES IT REQUIRE YOU TO REACH OUT TO PD OR FA TO RETURN BECAUSE I'M WORRIED I HAVE A DOG.
IF IT WERE TO GO DOWN IN MY BACKYARD, MY DOG'S GONNA BITE, RIGHT? MM-HMM
WE WOULD, WE WOULD DEFINITELY WORK WITH THE PD AND FD.
YEAH, WE DO AS THE PLAN, AS THE OPERATOR.
WE DO NOT WANNA BE ENTERING PEOPLE'S PRIVATE PROPERTY WITHOUT AUTHORIZATION FROM LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT.
IS THAT REQUIRED OR IS THAT SOMETHING WE AS A CITY HAVE THAT, UM, I MEAN THERE, THERE'S, THERE'S ALREADY TRESPASSING LAWS ON THE BOOK.
SO I MEAN, IT'S, THERE WOULD BE NOTHING WE WOULD HAVE TO DO TO MAKE IT, TO MAKE IT ILLEGAL FOR SOMEBODY TO ENTER ONTO PROP PRIVATE PROPERTY.
THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE FOR NOW.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, UH, TAKING THE TIME TO CLARIFY THIS.
MS. TRURO, YOU WANNA CLARIFY YOURS PLEASE? I WANT TO CLEAR 100% FOR EVERYONE LISTENING TONIGHT THAT THE ONLY THING WE ARE DISCUSSING, AND PLEASE CONFIRM, THIS IS THE DOCKING STATION BEHIND THIS BUILDING.
AND WHAT YOU STATED TO US IS THAT IT'S A TWO DRONE DOCKING STATION THAT THE DRONE IS IN ESSENCE PLACED ON THE DOCKING STATION.
IT'S LIFTED UP, IT GOES RIGHT BACK DOWN.
IT'S NOT GOING ANYWHERE IN THE CITY.
SO ALL THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED ARE NOT RELEVANT TO WHAT'S BEING DISCUSSED TONIGHT.
IS THAT, IS THAT TRUE? BECAUSE ALL WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, IS IT LITERALLY HAPPENING IN THAT SPACE THAT YOU'RE SHOWING ON THE SCREEN TONIGHT? I JUST WANT THAT PERFECTLY CLEAR BECAUSE I DO NOT WANT ANYONE COMING BACK AND SAYING THAT WE'VE APPROVED SOME TYPE OF MAJOR DRONE DELIVERY IN THE CITY OF RICHARDSON TONIGHT.
WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IS DOING DOCKING AND UNDOING FLIGHTS
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FOR MAINTENANCE VALIDATION PURPOSES.MAYOR, DO YOU HAVE ANY OF THESE OTHER MAINTENANCE FACILITIES ANYWHERE IN THE US? THIS IS GONNA BE OUR FIRST REGIONAL HUB HERE IN DFW.
UM, WE DO MAINTENANCE AT A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT LOCATIONS IN THE US.
UM, OUR HEADQUARTERS ARE IN, IN, UH, CALIFORNIA RIGHT NOW.
SO WE DO A LOT OF MAINTENANCE THERE AS WELL.
UM, BUT THIS IS OUR FIRST HEADQUARTER IN THE DFW METRO.
UH, IN SOME OF THOSE FACILITIES WHERE YOU DO MAINTENANCE, HAVE YOU RECEIVED COMPLAINTS ABOUT THESE MAINTENANCE FLIGHTS AT ALL FROM ANY OF THE SURROUNDING BUSINESSES OR NEIGHBORHOODS? NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF.
UM, AND I, YOU, MY OTHER QUESTION WAS ABOUT, UM, THE MAINTENANCE FLIGHTS, BUT AS I UNDERSTAND IT, YOU'RE LITERALLY JUST GOING UP IN A SEA AND COMING BACK DOWN.
YOU'RE NOT FLYING AROUND, YOU KNOW, THE ACREAGE THERE MM-HMM
AND WE, WE, IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, THE, THIS MAINTENANCE HUB, ONE OF THE REASONS ALSO FOR CHOOSING THIS LOCATION IS IT IS A MORE INDUSTRIAL LOCATION.
WE SAW RESIDENCES ARE 1700 FEET AWAY.
UM, IT'S KIND OF TUCKED IN IN THE BACK THERE.
UM, AND THAT'S SIMILAR TO KIND OF MOST OF THE TIME WE STRATEGICALLY TRY AND CHOOSE LOCATIONS THAT MAKE SENSE.
UM, THIS IS ALSO WITHIN THE INNOVATION QUOTA, SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO KIND OF MEET THAT VISION TOO.
WELL, 20 YEARS AGO I WAS STAR WARS, DONE THE THIRD ONE, AND YESTERDAY WENT BACK TO WATCH THAT AGAIN.
SAME MOVIE AGAIN IN MOVIE THEATER WITH MY SON.
HE WAS NINE YEARS, 20 YEARS AGO.
AGAIN, UH, LOTS OF DRONE THERE.
UH, NOW THIS THING, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER KEN HUTCHEN RATHER CLARIFY THIS THING, BUT I WOULD ADD ONE MORE THING THAT WHAT YOU SAID, THAT DOCK THE DOCKING STATION, THE DRONE IS GOING TO BE JUST FLYING FOR A FEW SECONDS, NOT, IT'S NOT GONNA GO EVEN HAVE UP THE BUILDING.
SO EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T HAVE AUTHORITY WHEN IT TAKES OFF, BUT THAT'S YOUR INTENTION.
SO WE ARE TALKING ABOUT JUST ONE TESTING CENTER, AND I KNOW THAT YOU DO DELIVERY FOR WALMART MOST LIKELY MM-HMM
AND, UH, I THINK THE DELIVERY HAS BEEN ALREADY AUTHORIZED.
CITY OF PLANO HAS AUTHORIZED THAT, I BELIEVE CITY OF PLANO.
UM, DO THEY HAVE ANY, THE CITY, THE CITY OF PLANO HAS AN ORDINANCE IN PLACE FOR, FOR DRONE DELIVERIES.
UM, ZIPLINE DOES NOT CURRENTLY HAVE, UM, OPERATIONS IN PLANO.
UH, ANY OTHER NEARBY CITY THAT YOU HAVE OPERATION? UH, QUI IS THE FIRST CITY WHERE WE'RE LAUNCHING.
UM, AND THEN THERE'S A NUMBER OF OTHER CITIES AS WELL.
UM, A FEW WHERE WE HAVE PERMITS.
WAXAHATCHEE IS ANOTHER ONE WHERE WE'RE GONNA BE LAUNCHING SOON.
UM, THERE'S A, THERE'S A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT LOCATIONS WHERE WE'LL BE LAUNCHING ACROSS METRO ABOUT 20 DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.
FRISCO, MCKINNEY, I THOUGHT THEY HAD SOME KIND.
FRISCO MCKINNEY IS ANOTHER LOCATION THAT WE'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW.
FEBRUARY OF 25 THEY HAD, CORRECT.
AND PRECO DID THAT WAY EARLY 2021.
SO THIS, UH, WALMART, UH, WALMART IS ONE OF OUR PARTNERS.
WE ALSO HAVE A NUMBER OF OTHER FOOD PARTNERS AS WELL THAT WE'RE EXCITED TO BE LAUNCHING WITH.
UM, CHIPOTLE IS ONE OF THEM THAT WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT.
UM, BUT WE, RIGHT NOW, IN TERMS OF THE PARTNERSHIP WITH WALMART, WALMART ALSO HAS ANOTHER DRONE OPERATOR THAT THEY WORK WITH CALLED WING, UH, WHICH IS ALPHABET'S COMPANY.
UM, SO I THINK THEY MIGHT BE THE OPERATOR THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO IN FRISCO.
SO, SO, SO YOU ARE THIS FACILITY BASICALLY, YOU WOULD BE BRINGING, BRINGING DRONES FROM DIFFERENT PLACES.
UH, REPAIRING THOSE THING OR TESTING THOSE, MAKING SURE THAT THEY DO WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO.
UH, AND UH, I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS DRONE, EVEN THE SIMPLE DRONE THAT I HAVE, ONE, IT CAN FLY BACK ITSELF.
ALL I HAVE TO DO COME BACK ONE BUTTON AND IT'LL JUST TAKE A SAFEST ROUTE AND COME BACK AND LAND SAFELY IN FRONT OF ME WHERE I WANT IT TO.
I MEAN, I KNOW THAT THIS IS SOMETHING NEW.
SOME PEOPLE GET EXCITED, SOME PEOPLE WILL THINK TWICE.
GOOD THING THAT WHEN WE HAD HORSES, WE DIDN'T THINK ABOUT TOO MUCH.
WE TOOK THE HORSES AND THEN WE HAD THE CAR, WE HAVE THE ROAD, BUT NOW WE ARE OPENING UP THE SKY FOR ANOTHER HIGHWAYS.
UH, WE HAVE THE INFORMATION HIGHWAY, WE DON'T SEE THAT, BUT WE'RE GONNA SEE THIS ONE.
NOW, THIS DOCKING STATION, THIS IS VERY TYPICAL, RIGHT? FOR ANY OTHER PLACES? YES.
AND THE SIZE FOR THIS AREA, YOU'RE LOOKING AT WHAT SIZE MAX YOU ARE THINKING? SO THE HEIGHT IS ABOUT 28 FEET.
I'M TALKING ABOUT THE DRONE SIZE.
OH, THE AIRCRAFT SIZE IS, UH, IS NOT 28 FEET.
THE AIRCRAFT SIZE IS ABOUT AN EIGHT FOOT WINGSPAN.
SO THAT'S THE MAX YOU'RE GONNA BE TESTING.
AND THEN, UH, YEAH, I MEAN THERE ARE MANY OTHER QUESTION I HAVE, BUT RIGHT NOW FOR THIS, THOSE ARE NOT REALLY VALID QUESTION.
AND ABSOLUTELY I DON'T WANT TO CONFUSE ANYONE, BUT I WANTED, YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH I WANT TO LEARN MANY OTHER THINGS.
WELL, I'LL BE HERE AFTERWARDS IF YOU'D LIKE TO TALK FURTHER.
I KNOW IT'S GETTING LATE THOUGH, FOR EVERYBODY I KNOW.
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THIS IS WONDERFUL.MR. BARRIOS, YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION? YES, MAYOR.
UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS MOST OF THESE DRONES WILL BE DRIVEN IN JUST LIKE A TOW TRUCK MAY DRIVE IN, YOU KNOW, MY CAR IF IT BROKE DOWN ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD.
DO Y'ALL, ARE, ARE THERE ANY PLANS TO FLY IN A DRONE? LIKE, I MAY DRIVE MY CAR INTO MECHANIC SOMETIMES.
ARE THERE ANY PLANS TO DRIVING IN? SO AT THIS TIME, WE WILL BE DRIVING ALL OF OUR AIRCRAFT IN, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A SPECIAL KIND OF FITTED TRUCK IF YOU WANT, THAT CAN FIT, UH, THE AIRCRAFT AT A, AT LIKE AN ANGLE.
UM, THEY FIT ON THESE SPECIAL RACKS THAT BEN'S TEAM HAS BUILT.
UM, AND SO AT THIS TIME THEY WILL ALL BE DRIVEN IN, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE FOCUSING ON RIGHT NOW.
SO AT THIS TIME, IS THERE ANYTHING IN THIS TO WHERE MY CONCERN ISN'T AROUND THE DOCKING STATION, IT'S, YOU KNOW, UNTIL WE HAVE A LARGER ABILITY TO LOOK AT THIS IN A HOLISTIC WAY, UM, ABOUT FLYING IN AND OUT AND OVER THE CITY ITSELF.
UM, SO IS, IS THERE ANYTHING IN HERE THAT WOULD PROHIBIT THEM FROM FLYING IN AND OUT OF THIS LOCATION? SAY FROM MESQUITE OR OVER THERE? THEY ARE, THERE IS NOT.
UH, WOULD YOU BE OPPOSED TO SOMETHING LIKE THAT AT THIS TIME? UH, OPPOSED TO, TO BEING ABLE TO AS LIMITING FLYING IN AND OUT FROM MIS KEY OR ANY OF YOUR OTHER CODES? YEAH, WELL, OKAY, FOR, FOR THE RECORD, CORCORAN WOULD BE OPPOSED TO THAT
SO THE RANGE, UH, THE RANGE ON OUR AIRCRAFT IS ABOUT 10, UP TO 10 MILES.
UM, INITIALLY THAT DELIVERY WE'LL BE DOING ABOUT A 10 MILE RANGE.
UM, SO EVEN THAT CONCEPT OF BEING ABLE TO FLY IN WOULD MEAN THAT WE WOULD BE WITHIN THAT 10 MILE RANGE OF THE PARTNER STORE.
AND RIGHT NOW, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE, I THINK IN TERMS OF LIMITING IT, UM, WE SEE THAT AS SOMETHING THAT'S REGULATED BY THE FAA, UM, AND AT THIS TIME, REALLY OUR FOCUS IS ON THOSE MAINTENANCE VALIDATION FLIGHTS.
DO YOU CURRENTLY FLY IN INTO YOUR OTHER REGIONAL HUBS YOU SAY YOU HAVE AROUND THE COUNTRY? UM, AT THIS TIME, WE, UH, OUR MAIN WE ARE REALLY LAUNCHING IN DFW, SO THIS IS WHERE WE'RE DOING KIND OF WHERE WE'RE STARTING TO DO OUR CUSTOMER DELIVERIES AT SCALE.
UM, SO IT'S KIND OF, THIS IS LIKE OUR FIRST METRO USE CASE, UM, FOR OUR PLATFORM TOO, AT SCALE.
SO THIS IS, THIS IS REALLY, UM, INNOVATIVE FOR US AS WELL.
SO, YOU KNOW, IF THE DRONE COULD FLY SAFELY AND THEN YOU DON'T REALLY HAVE TO TEST IT, SO IF IT IS BROKEN, UH, IT'S NOT GOING TO FLY IN, BUT THEN YOU HAVE TO DOUBLE UP ANOTHER DRONE THAT COULD BRING THAT DRONE IN.
SO THAT'S, WE ARE NOT INTO THAT STEP YET.
SO HOPEFULLY WE, WE DON'T GET THERE SOON.
UH, BUT RIGHT NOW I THINK, I THINK WE ARE SAFE TO SAY THAT THIS DRONE IS NOT GOING TO BE WALKING BY ITSELF IF HAD A, IF IT HAS A PROBLEM.
WELL, STEPHANIE, I THINK THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS.
I'LL JUST ADD ONE LITTLE COMMENT BEFORE I ASK YOU TO TAKE A SEAT.
AND WE MAY ASK YOU TO COME BACK POSSIBLY JUST IN CASE, BUT, UM, I REALLY INTRIGUED BY HOW THIS GOT STARTED WAS TO SAVE LIVES TO DELIVER BLOOD AND DO THOSE THINGS.
SO JUST REAL SHORTLY, THIS IS DOESN'T APPLY TO THIS CASE, AND I KNOW IT DOESN'T MR.
HOW, WHERE, SO HOW WOULD YOU STOCK BLOOD OR, I MEAN, WOULD YOU HAVE A SPECIAL WAY TO GO TO MR. HUTCHEN RE'S HOSPITAL OR DO OTHER THINGS? IS THAT HOW THAT WORKED? I'M JUST CURIOUS.
UM, SO ALTHOUGH RIGHT NOW IN DFW ANCHOR PARTNERS, WALMART, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF FOOD PARTNERS WE'RE GONNA BE LAUNCHING HOPEFULLY VERY SOON IN THE NEAR FUTURE HERE.
UH, WE ALSO, I DIDN'T MENTION, WE ALSO HAVE A NUMBER OF HEALTHCARE PARTNERS.
UM, SO ONE THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH, UH, IS THERE'S A NUMBER IN THE METRO.
I'M NOT SURE WHICH ONES ARE ANNOUNCED, SO I, I WON'T, BUT THERE'S SOME BIG NAMES IN THERE.
UM, AND SO WHAT WE'D BE LOOKING AT IS BEING ABLE TO INTEGRATE WITH, UM, IT COULD BE THEIR PHARMACY.
THE DELIVERY OF BLOOD IS REALLY SOMETHING THAT APPLIES IN THE USE CASE OF AFRICA.
UM, WHERE THE, THE ROADS ARE VERY BAD.
UM, THERE'S NOT ALWAYS THE ABILITY TO STORE IT AND KEEP IT COLD HERE.
WHAT WE'D BE LOOKING AT IS MORE, UM, IT COULD BE, IT COULD BE OVER THE COUNTER MEDICATION.
UM, IT COULD BE AT SOME POINT PRESCRIPTION DELIVERIES WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THE BOARD OF PHARMACY ON THAT.
UM, SO AT SOME POINT, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO EXPAND TO.
SO IT COULD BE MORE IN THE REALM OF MEDICAL PRODUCTS THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE.
UM, AND THAT WOULD BE PARTNERING WITH A NUMBER OF HEALTHCARE PARTNERS.
YOU'RE RESEARCHING POWER BATTERIES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE TO MAKE A MORE EFFICIENT, JUST FYI HERE IN RICHARDSON, WE JUST DID A RIBBON CUTTING FOR BEACON BATTERIES,
SO WITH THAT THOUGHT, YOU CAN HAVE A SEAT AND WE MAY CALL YOU BACK.
AT THIS TIME, WE'RE GONNA OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK IF THERE ARE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS.
MS. NEER, I DON'T HAVE ANY CARDS.
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IF THERE'S NO, UH, DISCUSSION, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING MAYOR PRO TIM, I SECOND IT.ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? MR. CORCORAN? OH, MR. MAYOR, THANK YOU.
I, SO IN RESEARCHING FOR A DIFFERENT DRONE ZONING CASE, I ENDED UP WATCHING LIKE 3 45 MINUTE VIDEOS ABOUT THIS COMPANY.
AND
BUT I WAS LIKE, WOW, I WISH WE HAD THIS COMPANY HERE IN RICHARDSON.
AND SO IMAGINE MY SURPRISE COMING IN TODAY AND SEEING THAT THAT'S WHAT THIS SOUTHERN CASE IS ABOUT.
I THINK THAT THIS, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, HONESTLY, JUST THE FACT THAT WE COULD BE A REGIONAL HUB FOR THEM AND THE FACT THAT THEY SAID, I PICKED UP ON THIS HQ IN CALIFORNIA FOR NOW, BUT, UH, WHO KNOWS, RIGHT? RICHARDSON, TEXAS IN THE FUTURE.
I MEAN, REALLY, EVEN IF, YOU KNOW, LOOK UP SOME OF THE VIDEOS, THESE ARE THE, COMPARED TO SOME OTHER COMMERCIAL DELIVERY DRONES OUT THERE, THESE DRONES ARE SO QUIET.
I MEAN, YOU CANNOT, YOU REALLY DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT THEY'RE THERE EXCEPT THAT YOU'RE WATCHING A VIDEO OF IT FLYING AROUND RIGHT BESIDE THE CAMERA.
UM, SO EVEN IF THEY DO START FLYING DRONES INTO AND OUTTA THE HUB AND, AND CHANGE IT INTO SOMETHING ELSE, TO ME IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL.
I, BASED ON WHAT I'VE READ, WHAT I'VE WATCHED, THIS IS LIKE THE TOP OF THE LINE KIND OF DRONE TECHNOLOGY COMPANY WE WANT IN RICHARDSON.
SO, YOU KNOW, HANDS DOWN, OBVIOUSLY I'M IN FAVOR OF IT.
COUNCILMAN BARRIOS, I JUST, ONE THING THAT IN MY RESEARCH THAT I READ THAT I THINK IS REALLY RELEVANT TO ONE OF THE QUESTIONS YOU ASKED, UM, IT JUST HAD TO DO WITH REPORTING STUFF TO THE FAA DIFFERENT COMPANY.
BUT IT SAID, THE ARTICLE I READ SAID, DRONE UP FOUNDER AND CEO TOM WALKER SAYS THE COMPANY MADE MORE THAN A HUNDRED THOUSAND FLIGHTS WITHOUT A SINGLE REPORTABLE INCIDENT IN IT SAYS THERE HAVE BEEN SIX CRASHES, BUT NONE RESULTED IN AN INJURY OR PROPERTY DAMAGE EXCEEDING $500.
SO THAT IS AT LEAST ONE METRIC FOR YOU RIGHT NOW TO KNOW THAT HEY, SOMETIMES IF SOMETHING HITS AND THE PROPERTY DAMAGE IS $499, THEY MAY NOT HAVE TO REPORT IT.
BUT ANYWAY, I'M VERY ENTHUSIASTICALLY IN FAVOR OF THIS AND I'D BE VERY DISAPPOINTED IF THIS DIDN'T PASS.
NO, THIS IS, UH, GREAT, THANKS.
I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS TECHNOLOGY.
UH, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, STAR WARS SOMETHING IS MY FAVORITE MOVIE.
I WATCHED IT WHEN I WAS 10 GRADE, FIRST TIME NONSTOP, THREE OF THOSE.
UH, SO THIS IS VERY SURFACES, EVEN THE BATTERY, IF I KNOW THERE, THERE ARE SOME CONCERN WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW SOMETHING, SOME TECHNOLOGY.
BUT I DO KNOW CERTAIN, UM, THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE BATTERY LIFE, IT, YOU KNOW, GOES DOWN THAT TECHNOLOGY, KNOW IT IS THERE.
SO IT KNOWS THAT WHERE TO GO BACK AS FAST AS POSSIBLE.
THESE ARE, EVERYTHING IS BUILT IN CALCULATION.
HUMAN MAKES MISTAKES, BUT AI THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING, UH, IT'S HELPING OUR LIFE MUCH, MUCH BETTER WAY.
SO, UH, IT'S UP TO US HOW TO WE USE AND ADOPT THIS TECHNOLOGY AS, YOU KNOW, AS SAFEST AS POSSIBLE.
I THINK, UH, WE, I THINK THIS IS A GREAT START FOR RICHARDSON AND THAT'S WHAT RICHARDSON STAND FOR.
UH, I KNOW SOME PEOPLE, THEY'LL SAY THAT I'M NOT FOR, UH, WE ARE NOT FOR, OR I'M NOT FOR DRONE, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, BE MAKING MISTAKE.
UH, THIS IS SCIENCE AND RESEARCHING IS ABOUT SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY.
I THINK I'LL BE VERY HAPPY TO EVEN PUT A MOTION ON THIS, UH, UH, REQUEST.
SO IF, IF THAT OPPORTUNITY COMES OUT, LIKE PUT THAT.
UM, I'M EXTREMELY EXCITED ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF DRONES AND, UM, ZIP LINE IN ITSELF SPECIFICALLY.
I TOO LOOKED THEM UP AND ASKED AROUND FRIENDS THAT KNOW A LOT MORE ABOUT THIS WORLD THAN I DO.
UM, I, I, I DON'T HAVE A DRONE, BUT I HAVE FRIENDS WHO HAVE BUSINESSES WHO, UH, USE DRONES IN THEIR BUSINESS, WHETHER IT'S REAL ESTATE OR, UH, CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES TO LOOK AT ROOFS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
UM, BUT ZIPLINE'S A GREAT ORGANIZATION.
UH, COUNCILMAN CORCORAN ABOUT IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE ANYBODY, THEY'RE DEFINITELY ONE OF THE ONES WE WANT.
I AM NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THE NOISE PERSONALLY.
I KNOW THAT WAS SOMETHING I'VE KIND OF HEARD BUZZING ABOUT.
I GUESS THAT WAS KIND OF NO, NO FUN THERE.
BUT I HEARD SOME BUZZ IN THE, IN THE COMMUNITY ABOUT NOISE.
PERSONALLY, I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THE NOISE.
UH, MY ONLY HESITATION IS, UM, WHEN I ASKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IF THEY COULD FLY IN AND OUT, THE REALITY IS ONCE WE APPROVE, WE DON'T HAVE THAT ABILITY TO, SO THE TECHNOLOGY CHANGES OR 'CAUSE THAT IS BEYOND OUR SCOPE, RIGHT? SFA, WHICH WE HAVE ZERO SCOPE ON.
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IS MORE ABOUT OKAY, HAVING THAT CONVERSATION AROUND.I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT AS TECHNOLOGY CHANGES CITIES AND UM, HAVE TO KIND OF CREATE THOSE POLICIES AND THOSE ORDINANCES AND CREATE THAT KIND OF, OKAY, OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE THE FIRST ONES TO COME.
THEY'RE NOT THE LAST, UH, UM, BY ANY MEANS.
AND I THINK WE AS A CITY NEED TO TAKE A KIND OF THAT APPROACH THAT, HEY, WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT THAT INDUSTRY, ABOUT THAT REGULATION? HOW ARE WE GONNA COMMUNICATE THIS TO, UH, THE RESIDENTS? HOW ARE WE GONNA CREATE THIS PARTNERSHIP? 'CAUSE IT TRULY IS SO THAT IT WORKS FOR EVERYBODY.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE AS A CITY HAS TAKEN, HAVE TAKEN THAT.
AND I DON'T KNOW THAT, UH, WITH MY KNOWLEDGE, OTHER THAN I THINK THEY'RE REALLY COOL.
AND I LOVE TECHNOLOGY AND I GEEK OUT ON TECHNOLOGY AND I'M EXCITED WHEN I THINK OF THE FIRST REGIONAL, YOU KNOW, THE REGIONAL HUB AND BEING AT THE CENTER OF THIS AND DFW, TRUST ME, I AM ONBOARD 100% ON THAT.
UM, BUT I'M STRUGGLING WITH THIS.
ARE WE PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE? 'CAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT CONVERSATION WITH THE COMMITTEE.
YOU KNOW, I AM, I FEEL LIKE A DECISION HERE.
THIS TAKES THIS, THE, THE FACT THAT WE HAVE NATIONAL GOVERNING ORGANIZATIONS KIND OF TAKE IT OUT OF OUR HANDS BECAUSE WE HAVE ZERO ABILITY.
SO ONCE WE SAY YES, THAT'S ALLOWED, IT'S KIND OF OUTTA OUR HANDS.
WHETHER IF THE TECHNOLOGY ADVANCES IN SIX MONTHS AS TECHNOLOGY ADVANCES SUCH A RAPID RATE AND THEY DO HAVE THAT TECHNOLOGY, BUT IT'LL FLY IT IN ON THE BACK OF A LARGER DRONE OR WHATEVER THE TECHNOLOGY DOES, IT'S STILL OUT OF OUR HANDS ONCE WE APPROVE IT.
SO I REALLY FEEL LIKE, OKAY, WHAT'S THE STRATEGIC DECISION? SO I'M HESITANT.
I LOVE THE IDEA, I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE IDEA, BUT I'M HESITANT BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE MAYBE WE AS A CITY NEED TO TAKE A STEP BACK, SAY, CAN WE PUSH THIS DOWN A FEW MONTHS? AND THEN SO WE CAN HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY, HAVE THAT DISCUSSION, OKAY, WHAT ARE DRONES GONNA LOOK LIKE IN RICHARDSON? WHAT ARE THE KIND OF QUESTIONS THAT ARE GONNA COME UP? WHAT ARE THE KIND OF THINGS WE AS A COUNCIL NEED TO INFORM OURSELVES OF AND CREATE POLICY SO THAT WHEN ORGANIZATIONS COME LIKE THEM, WE DON'T, AND WE DO IT SOON, SO WE DON'T MISS OUT ON THE BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY.
'CAUSE I WOULD LOVE FOR THEM TO HAVE THEM IN RICHARDSON, YOU KNOW? 'CAUSE CALIFORNIA, WE, WE KNOW WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF CORPORATE PARTNERS FROM CALIFORNIA.
UM, I JUST DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE RIGHT TIME.
AND I, I DON'T, I DEFINITELY DON'T WANT TO KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD.
I LOVE THE TECHNOLOGY, BUT AGAIN, I, I JUST FEEL LIKE WE AS A CITY HAVE DEVELOPED THAT FRAMEWORK IN WHICH WE'RE GONNA DEAL WITH THIS MOVING FORWARD AND THAT TECHNOLOGY.
MR. MANGER, DO YOU WANNA ADDRESS? WELL, I, I DO, I DO.
UM, I THINK EVERYTHING YOU SAID ABOUT HOW QUICKLY THE TECHNOLOGY IS EVOLVING, HOW DIVERSE DRONES, WHAT THAT MEANS IS, WOULD, UM, IT ALMOST PRECLUDES, IN MY OPINION, WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING THERE IS NOT GONNA BE A ONE POLICY OR A POLICY, EVEN WITH A VARIATION THAT'S GONNA BE ABLE TO CAPTURE ALL THIS.
I THINK WHAT WE'VE PROPOSED TO THE COUNCIL AND WHAT YOU ADOPTED FOR BOTH OPERATION CENTERS AND DELIVERY CENTERS IS THE ABILITY TO EVALUATE EVERY SINGLE CASE THAT COMES BEFORE YOU ON ITS OWN MERITS.
AND TO HAVE EXPERTS LIKE WE'VE HAD TONIGHT, PROVIDE YOU WITH THE BACKGROUND AND INFORMATION TO TRY TO MAKE THE BEST DECISION YOU CAN.
IF WE PUT A POLICY IN PLACE THAT TRIES TO BE A CATCHALL, I MEAN, YOU'RE GONNA SEE ANOTHER CASE IN A FEW WEEKS THAT IS A HUNDRED PERCENT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU'RE SEEING TONIGHT.
COMPLETELY DIFFERENT AIRCRAFT, COMPLETELY DIFFERENT BUSINESS MODEL, COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FREQUENCIES.
I MEAN, EVERYTHING IS DIFFERENT ABOUT IT, EXCEPT IT'S CALLED A DRONE.
AND SO, I MEAN, I, I FEEL LIKE WE'VE PUT OUR BEST FOOT FORWARD IN TRYING TO CREATE A STRATEGY FOR THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER EACH INDIVIDUAL OPPORTUNITY, UM, ON ITS OWN MERITS.
BECAUSE, UM, AS EVERYTHING YOU SAID, I AGREE WITH, AS QUICKLY AS THE TECHNOLOGY IS CHANGING, AS SOON AS WE TRY TO PUT A A CATCHALL POLICY IN PLACE, IT WON'T BE APPROPRIATE FOR SOME SITUATION THAT'LL BE RIGHT BEFORE YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
WE WANNA REMAIN FLEXIBLE AND WE WANNA REMAIN, YOU KNOW, BUSINESS FRIENDLY.
UH, I THINK IT'D BE AT LEAST WORTH THE PAUSE TO SAY, OKAY, WHAT ARE OTHER CITIES DOING, FIRST OF ALL? 'CAUSE WE ALWAYS COMPARE OURSELVES TO OTHER CITIES.
AND, UM, HOW DOES RICHARDSON NOT TO CREATE A SUPER LEGALISTIC FRAMEWORK AND SAY, ONLY WITHIN THIS FRAMEWORK.
'CAUSE IT IS A VERY DIFFERENT, OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE GONNA HAVE ONE NICHE.
THE NEXT PERSON IN A FEW WEEKS IS GONNA HAVE A DIFFERENT NICHE, AND WE WANNA ALLOW THAT FLEXIBILITY IN INDUSTRY.
UH, BUT, UM, YEAH, I, I THINK IT'S AT LEAST WORTH LOOKING AT TO ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS.
UM, I WOULD BE CATEGORICALLY AGAINST WHAT MR. BARRIOS IS SUGGESTING.
UM, TONIGHT WE'RE ASKED TO REVIEW WHERE THE TECHNOLOGY IS.
WE'VE HEARD SEVERAL COMMENTS ABOUT SPECIALLY MADE, UM, TRANSPORT VEHICLES, THE WHOLE NINE YARDS.
SO SOMETHING'S NOT GONNA CHANGE IN SIX MONTHS.
I ALSO LOOKED UP QUICKLY 'CAUSE I KNEW THIS QUESTION WOULD COME UP.
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MILES AWAY.OUR EXPERT WHO TESTIFIED TONIGHT TESTIFIED, SORRY, THAT'S NOT PROBABLY GONNA TALK TO US TONIGHT, SORRY.
UM, UM, STATED THAT THE DRONES CAN ONLY FLYING 10 MILES.
SO THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE WORRIED ABOUT TONIGHT BECAUSE IT'S OUTSIDE THE RADIUS.
UM, SO AGAIN, I WANNA BE PERFECTLY CLEAR WITH EVERYONE.
WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING TONIGHT IS THIS DOCKING STATION, THE, IT'S BEEN FULLY STATED, IT'S GONNA GO UP, GO BACK DOWN, NOT OVER THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING, UM, DOWN THE ROAD, UM, SOMEWHERE DOWN THE ROAD.
THERE MAY BE THAT OPPORTUNITY.
UM, BUT THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO CENTERS AROUND US CLOSE ENOUGH THAT RIGHT NOW THE DRONE WOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE THE 10 MILES WOULD BE, WOULD BE CLOSE ENOUGH TO, TO JUST GO THROUGH FROM A 10 MILE PERSPECTIVE.
I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE, AS MR. MAGNER TALKED ABOUT, WE KNOW WE HAVE A COUPLE MORE CA AT LEAST ONE MORE CASE COMING BEFORE US.
UM, IF, IF, IF, UM, IF THIS COMPANY WANTS TO COME BACK AT A LATER POINT IN TIME, THEY HAVE TO COME BACK AND DISCUSS WITH US A WHOLE DELIVERY COMPONENT, UM, WHICH WOULD BE IN THE FUTURE.
UM, SO I I, I THINK TO DELAY IT MAKES NO SENSE TO ME WHATSOEVER.
AND SO I WILL BE VERY MUCH SUPPORTING THIS AND, AND, AND VOTING FOR IT.
AND JUST TO CLARIFY, THIS IS A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, RIGHT? SO THIS CAN BE RECALLED IF FOR SOME REASON IN THE FUTURE WE HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE OPERATIONS, WE CAN CALL IT UP AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T EXPECT THIS, THIS IS NOT GOING THE WAY WE WANTED.
SO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO REVIEW IT.
UH, SO FOR THAT REASON, I'M, I WOULD BE OPPOSED TO, TO CONTINUING IT.
UM, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO SORT OF, FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE REGULATE, UM, THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THIS OPERATING IN OUR CITY.
SO I'M IN SUPPORT OF IT FOR ALL THE REASONS THAT MANY OF THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE SAID.
BUT I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT SINCE THAT'S A CONCERN YOU HAVE, UH, FOR THE REASONS MR. MAGNER SAID.
I I DON'T KNOW THAT IT MAKES SENSE TO TRY AND SORT OF DO A CATCHALL HERE.
AND WE DO HAVE THIS MECHANISM ALLOWS US CONTROL
WELL, THIS IS ABSOLUTELY, THIS IS A SPECIAL PERMIT AND, UH, AND I DO UNDERSTAND ALL THE CONCERN THAT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER DAN HAS.
AND, UH, BUT OF COURSE WE'RE NOT GOING, WE'RE NOT REALLY LOOKING MUCH FORWARD THAT MUCH IN THE FUTURE.
SO I THINK THIS IS A, YOU KNOW, VERY PERFECT CASE FOR THIS TIME TO ALLOW THEM APPROVE THIS.
SO IT'S KIND OF ALSO TESTING THE PROCESS, HOW THAT GOES.
AND OUR NEIGHBORS, THEY'RE ALREADY APPROVING THIS THING.
EVEN DELIVERY IS GOING TO HAPPEN 15 MILES, IT'LL, IT, THEY'LL EXTEND THE RANGE.
SO WE, THIS IS SOMETHING PROBABLY IN THE FUTURE STATE AND FEDERAL, FAA PROBABLY WILL BE REACHING OUT MORE WITH THEIR AUTHORITY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN TRY TO PROTECT OURSELF IN THE CITY, BUT WE CAN'T PROTECT IT, PROTECT OURSELF FROM NEIGHBOR BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA BE ALLOWING LOTS OF THINGS.
SO WITH THAT, I THINK THERE LOOKS LIKE MORE DISCUSSION.
I'LL BE WAITING FOR MAKE TO MAKE A MOTION.
GO AHEAD IF YOU'RE, YEAH, THANK YOU MAYOR.
UM, I MEANT TO SAY THIS EARLIER, UH, WITH MY INTERACTION WITH, UH, DON ON, YOU KNOW, LOOKING FORWARD, FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK COUNSEL AND JUSTICE FOR POINT TO REMINDING US OF THAT 'CAUSE THAT THAT'S A VALID POINT AND UH, THAT'S A GREAT POINT.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT.
UM, REGARDING THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND OUR ABILITY TO RECALL THAT AND FUTURE USE, UM, WHEN WE LOOK LOOKING AT THIS MOVING FORWARD AND WHEN I, WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT KIND OF LOOKING AND DEVELOPING A PLAN AS A CITY, I, ASIDE FROM THIS, I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT THING TO DO.
AND I DID WANNA SAY THAT I DO, BEING THAT THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT GOVERNING BODIES INVOLVED IN SOMETHING LIKE THIS, I THINK AT SOME POINT DEVELOPMENT PLAN HELPS US.
'CAUSE WHILE SHE SEEMS LIKE A WONDERFUL EXPERT AND SHE WORKS, BUT SHE'S AN EXPERT ON BEHALF OF THE, YOU KNOW, AND THE NEXT PERSON AND THE PERSON, NOT JUST HER, I APOLOGIZE, DON'T MEAN TO CALL HER OUT DIRECTLY, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, ANY TIME WE HAVE A, AN APPLICANT AND THEY'RE OUR ONLY EXPERT AND WE HAVEN'T DEVELOPED A PLAN, IT KIND OF, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE TAKING THEIR WORD FOR IT, PER SE.
'CAUSE WE HAVEN'T NECESSARILY, UH, AS A, AS A GOVERNING BODY, DONE OUR HOMEWORK AS A WHOLE.
UM, BUT WITH THAT SAID, COUNCIL AND JUSTICE MADE A VERY VALID POINT ON MY CONCERN.
UH, SO WITH THAT, UM, WHILE I THINK WE AS A COUNCIL STILL NEED TO LOOK AT THIS IN A DIFFERENT LIGHT POINT FORWARD, AND I THINK WE AS A CITY NEED TO DEVELOP SOME KIND OF, OR AT LEAST HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS AROUND HOW WE WANT TO LOOK AT THINGS AND HOW WE MAY COMMUNICATE SOME OF THESE CONCERNS OF THE PUBLIC
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AND HOW WE'RE GONNA APPROACH SOMETHING LIKE THIS.UH, I WILL BE VOTING FOR IT, UM, BASED ON COUNCILMAN JUSTICE'S, UM, REMINDER.
ALRIGHT, I'M NOT SEEING ANY ADDITIONAL LIGHTS.
I WOULD LIKE TO GET A MOTION ON ZONING FILE 25 0 7.
I MEAN, I NEVER THOUGHT THAT THAT DRONE THAT I LOVE SO MUCH THAT I WOULD BE PUTTING A MOTION TODAY.
I'M ABOUT TO CRY, BUT ANYWAY, NOT IN THIS, NOT REALLY.
UH, I WOULD LIKE TO PUT, PUT A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ZONING FILE 25 0 7 AND CONSIDER ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF RICHARD CHARLESTON, TEXAS AMENDING THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE AND ZONING MAP OF THE CITY OF RICHARD CHARLESTON AS HERE TO FOUR, AMENDED TO GRANT A CHANGE IN ZONING BY GRANTING A SPECIAL PERMIT FOR A DRONE OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE CENTER FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1155 CASS DRIVE, RICHARD ON TEXAS ZONED PD PLAN DEVELOPMENT.
COLLINS REP TODD AND INNOVATION DISTRICT EMPLOYMENT SUBDISTRICT.
MR. HUTTER? I'D LIKE TO SECOND THAT MOTION MAYOR.
ALL IN FAVOR? SHOW OF HANDS, PLEASE.
[11. CONSIDER AWARD FOR REQUEST FOR APPLICATIONS (“RFA”) #703-25 – WE REQUEST AUTHORIZATION TO AWARD THE BANK DEPOSITORY SERVICES CONTRACT TO BANK OF AMERICA.]
ALRIGHT, THAT BRINGS US TO ANOTHER YES, I'M SORRY.FOR THIS NEXT ITEM THAT YOU'RE GONNA CALL OUT, I NEED TO ABSTAIN AND, UH, LEAVE THE ROOM HERE.
SO, UH, MY CONFLICT OF INTEREST FORM IS ON FILE.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL NOW CON CONSIDER WHAT SHE JUST SAID.
SO THE PROCESS FOR LIKE, FOR, UH, SELECTING OUR, OUR BANK CREDIT UNION OR SAVINGS ASSOCIATION OR PROVIDER, BUT DEPOSITORY SERVICES IS SOMETHING WE DO EVERY FIVE YEARS.
THE CURRENT CONTRACT EXPIRES AT THE END OF JULY, UH, ON JULY 31ST, 2025, UH, UC AND YOUR, UH, PACKET STAFF IS RECOMMENDING, UM, YOU AWARD THE SERVICES CONTRACT TO BANK OF AMERICA.
UM, UM, AND, UM, A SIMPLE MOTION, UH, TO THAT EFFECT WILL, UM, UM, AND ENACT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.
MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO, UM, AUTHORIZE THE AWARD, THE BANK REPOSITORY SERVICES CONTRACT BANK OF AMERICA.
ALL IN FAVOR? SHOW OF HANDS, PLEASE.
PASSES UNANIMOUSLY SIX OH, BRING MS. JUSTICE BACK IN.
I'LL BE LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.
MAYOR, BEFORE WE DO THAT, CAN I ASK A CLARIFYING QUESTION? AND I'M SORRY I DIDN'T SEE THIS AHEAD OF TIME.
UM, DAWN, DON, WE HAVE ON HERE THE, UM, IT'S UNDER, I'M SORRY, IT'S UNDER A TWO THAT IS SAYING WE REQUEST AUTHORIZATION TO ISSUE A PURCHASE ORDER TO TECH LOGIC FOR THE COOPERATIVE PURCHASE OF A NEW BOOK ORDER FOR THE LIBRARY RENOVATION PROJECT.
I WOULD'VE ASSUMED THAT THAT WOULD JUST BE INCLUDED IN THE OVERALL BOND PACKAGE AS A PART OF THE PROJECT, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
SO IS THIS A, IS THIS A ADD-ON OR IS THIS A PART OF THE BOND PACKAGE? I, I'M JUST CON I'M CONFUSED BECAUSE WE DON'T, WE'RE NOT APPROVING EVERY ITEM.
IT'S BIG, IT'S A BIG LEAD TIME.
SO THEY NEED TO ORDER IT EARLY.
WELL, AND IT'S, IT'S A UNIQUE PROCUREMENT, SO IT'S JUST A SEPARATE CONTRACT, BUT THIS IS BEING PAID FOR WITH BOND DOLLARS WITH, FROM THE, FROM THE LIBRARY.
UM, I'M, I'M NOT A POSTER, I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE SINCE WE APPROVE THE, THE PROJECT AND THE BOND, THAT THAT, THAT THIS WOULD BE INCLUDED AS A PART OF THAT AND IT WOULD NOT NEED TO BE A SEPARATE ITEM UNDER THE CONSENT AGENDA.
THAT, THAT'S WHERE MY CONFUSION IS COMING IN.
AM I MAKING SENSE WHAT I'M ASKING? ABSOLUTELY.
IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A SPECIALIZED PROCUREMENT AND SO WE'RE JUST HANDLING IT AS, AS A ONE-OFF IN THAT WAY.
BUT IT'S BEING PAID FOR WITH, UM, FROM FUNDING FROM THE APPROVED, UM, LIBRARY RENOVATION BOND PROGRAM.
[12. CONSENT AGENDA]
OKAY.WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.
MR. BARRIOS, MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO BRING, UH, 12 B ONE ABOVE THE LINE.
WE, I THINK THE CURRENT MOTION IS SOMETHING.
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WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO SEPARATE THINGS.AMY, CAN YOU CLARIFY THIS? WE ARE ON 12.
UH, YOU'RE ASKING TO BRING 12 B ONE 12 B ONE OFF CONSENT.
THIS IS WRONG, CORRECT? THIS IS CORRECT.
WE WE'RE LOOKING AT TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
SO WE HAVE A REQUEST TO BRING THAT ABOVE THE LINE.
SO, UH, MOST YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA ABSENT, UH, 12 B ONE.
AND THEN 12 B ONE WILL BE VOTED ON SEPARATELY.
CAN I GET A SECOND? IS JUSTICE SECOND? GOT A MOTION? SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR? SHOW OF HANDS PLEASE.
OKAY, THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[12.B. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE FOLLOWING ORDINANCE: 1. CONSIDER ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE ABANDONING THE PORTION OF McKINNEY STREET AND PUBLIC ALLEYS WITHIN BLOCKS 3 AND 24, ORIGINAL TOWN ADDITION; RESERVING ALL EXISTING EASEMENT RIGHTS OF OTHERS, IF ANY, WHETHER APPARENT OR NON-APPARENT, AERIAL, SURFACE, UNDERGROUND OR OTHERWISE; PROVIDING FOR THE FURNISHING OF A CERTIFIED COPY OF THIS ORDINANCE FOR RECORDING IN THE OFFICIAL PUBLIC RECORDS OF DALLAS COUNTY, TEXAS, AS A QUITCLAIM DEED]
NOW, MR. BORROWS, MARIOS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION ON YOURS? ITEMS? YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION APPROVE.UH, I'M MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, ITEM 12 B ONE.
GOT A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM B ONE.
ANY, DO I GET A SECOND? MR.
MAKE THAT SECOND TO APPROVE COUNCIL COURT.
ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE SECOND ONE.
[13. REPORT ON ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST]
OKAY, NOW THAT BRINGS US TO SET ITEM 12, ITEM OF COMMUNITY INTEREST.ANYBODY ON THE COUNCIL HAVE ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST? MR. CORLEY? WELL, MR. MAYOR, UH, LAST FRIDAY, ONE OF OUR ESTEEM CHAMBER MEMBER SARAH Z WINK, HAD A WONDERFUL GOING AWAY PARTY.
WE'RE ALL VERY SORRY TO MISS HER.
UM, AND WE WISH HER THE BEST OF LUCK IN HER NEW LIFE IN IDAHO.
SO, YOU KNOW, WISH HER ALL THE BEST.
UM, WE'LL PROBABLY TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE OTHER STUFF WE DID ON SATURDAY, I ASSUME.
SO I'LL JUST CONGRATULATE THE RSO ON THEIR, UH, SEASON FINALE CONCERT, UM, ON SATURDAY.
UM, THE VIOLINIST, THE GUEST VIOLINIST WAS FANTASTIC.
UM, SHE, IT WAS RED AND SPARKLY AND IT WAS GREAT.
UM, AND I JUST WANNA REMIND EVERYONE THAT EARLY VOTING FOR THE MAY 3RD ELECTION ENDS TOMORROW.
SO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT IF YOU CAN.
IF NOT, MAY 3RD IS YOUR, IS YOUR SHOT.
UM, AND THIS WEEKEND IS ALSO THE COTTONWOOD ART FESTIVAL.
SO COME OUT AND SEE SOME GREAT ART AND VOTE IF YOU DON'T VOTE EARLY.
UM, THIS PAST WEEK, MOST OF US WERE AT THE JJ PIERCE, UM, HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION MEETING.
UM, THEY HAD A NICE CROWD THERE OVER AT MOHAWK ELEMENTARY.
AND, UH, I JUST WANNA THANK ALL THOSE, UH, THAT WERE PART OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD THAT STUCK AROUND.
AND OF COURSE EVERYBODY THAT SHOWED UP AND HELPED ANSWER QUESTIONS AND IT WAS A GREAT MEETING LOOKING FORWARD.
COUNCILWOMAN JUSTICE MENTIONED COTTONWOOD ARTS FESTIVAL.
UH, RICHARDSON WOMEN'S CLUB ALSO HAS THEIR ANNUAL HOME TOUR AND FUNDRAISER, SO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO GO AND, UH, LOOK AT, OOH, SEE WHAT'S GOING ON OVER THERE AS WELL.
IT'S A BUSY WEEKEND IN RICHARDSON COMING UP, MR. CHU.
WELL, LAST WEEK HAS BEEN REALLY BUSY, BUSY CRAZY WEEKS, DAYS, BUT I AM GONNA JUST MENTION COUPLE THINGS, BUT I'M SURE YOU'RE GONNA BE PROBABLY TALKING ABOUT THOSE FEW THINGS.
SO I'LL JUST, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T FORGET IT.
ONE WAS THAT WE HAD, UM, UH,
SO THAT'S A GREAT, UH, THAT'S SOME OF THE GREAT THINGS HAPPENING IN RICHARD, I THINK THAT NEEDS SOME SPECIAL, UH, DISCUSSION OR ANNOUNCEMENT OR TALKING POINTS.
AND THEN WE HAD RIBBON CUTTING LAST SATURDAY THAT WAS INTERURBAN COMMON AND BUILT MAIN RIBBON CUTTING.
SO, BUT I'M SURE YOU'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT THOSE THINGS, SO I'M JUST LEAVING THOSE THUNDER FOR YOU.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, UH, I'LL JUST ADD, UH, I THINK YOU DID JUST FINE TALKING ABOUT THE BELTED MAINE AND INNER URBAN COMMON PARK.
IT WAS, IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU IF YOU GO OUT AND UNDERSTAND THE VISION OF THIS COUNCIL'S BEEN TALKING ABOUT AND THE VISION TO HAVE A DESTINATION AND A PLACE AND IT'S WALKABLE, IT'S VIBRANT AND GO SEE IT AT NIGHT, GO SEE THE LIGHTS ALL LIT UP AND, AND THE, IN THE INVITATIONAL TYPE THINGS IN, IN RICHARDSON BLUE.
IT REALLY IS LOOKING REALLY GOOD.
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THAT AND I'LL GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO GENCHI WHO IS CELEBRATING THEIR 35 YEARS IN RICHARDSON AND THEY'RE DOING KIND OF A COUNTDOWN AND THEY HAD A LITTLE SPECIAL EVENT ALSO ON THIS WEEKEND.UH, COUNCIL'S WORKING HARD AND I'M REALLY EXCITED TO SEE US DOING SO MANY NEAT THINGS.
IT'S JUST HARD TO GET TO ALL OF 'EM.
AND UM, IT IS 9:00 PM WITH NO FURTHER BUSINESS.
I CALL THIS MEETING ADJOURNED.