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          [CALL TO ORDER]
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          I CALL THIS MEETING OF THE RICHARDSON CITY COUNCIL ORDER AT 6:00 PM UH, COUNCILMAN BARRIOS, IF YOU WILL LEAD US IN THE INDICATION AND PLEDGE, PLEASE JOIN ME OR PLEASE JOIN ME IN PRAYER. 
          DEAR GOD, WE ASK FOR YOUR PROTECTION AND WISDOM THIS EVENING. 
          WE THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE MUCH LIKE FAITH. 
          THIS JOURNEY ISN'T ABOUT PERFECTION, BUT ABOUT BEING FORMED IN THE PROCESS. 
          MAY WE BE PART OF GOD'S TRANSFORMING WORK IN OUR COMMUNITY AND IN THE WORLD. 
          MAY WE WALK IN GRACE AND BE LED BY LOVE, LEADING WITH HONESTY, INTER AND INTEGRITY. 
          IN JESUS' NAME WE PRAY. 
          AMEN. 
          PLEASE JOIN ME FOR THE US PLAY. 
          I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY. 
          WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL TEXAS FLAG, HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. 
          I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD ONE AND INDIVIDUAL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER BARRIOS. 
          [3. MINUTES OF THE JULY 14, 2025 AND JULY 21, 2025 MEETINGS]
MOVING ON TO ITEM THREE MINUTES OF THE JULY 14TH, 2025 AND JULY 21ST, 2025 MEETINGS. 
          I SEE, UH, UH, MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHEN RIDER. 
          MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE MINUTES AS PUBLISHED. 
          ALRIGHT, I SECOND IT. 
          ALRIGHT, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. 
          ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? IF NOT ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, THAT IS A UNANIMOUS VOTE. 
          WE 
          [4. PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS AND VISITORS FORUM]
WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM FOUR, PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS AND VISITORS FORUM. 
          MR. MAGNER. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          MAYOR AND COUNSEL. 
          WE HAVE SEVERAL, UM, VISITORS WHO HAVE, UH, SIGNED UP TO SPEAK TONIGHT. 
          IN ADDITION, WE MAY HAVE MORE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, UH, LATER ON THE AGENDA. 
          SO I WILL GO AHEAD AND READ THE INSTRUCTIONS FOR BOTH OUR VISITORS AS WELL AS ANYONE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          LATER, DURING THIS PORTION OF THE COUNCIL MEETING, 30 MINUTES IS ALLOCATED FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO PROVIDE COMMENTS TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON AGENDA ITEMS. IF YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK ON A PUBLIC HEARING, PLEASE WAIT UNTIL THE PUBLIC HEARING IS OPENED. 
          IF THERE'S TIME LEFT DURING THE INITIAL 30 MINUTES ALLOCATED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, THE MORE ANY TIME WILL BE PROVIDED AS A VISITORS FORUM AND OPEN TO ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON ANY TOPIC IN WHICH THE SUBJECT MATTER IS WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE CITY. 
          ALL SPEAKERS SHOULD COMPLETE A PUBLIC COMMENT CARD AND SUBMIT IT TO THE CITY SECRETARY BEFORE THE MEETING BEGINS. 
          SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER THAT THEY'RE RECEIVED. 
          WHEN YOUR NAME IS CALLED, PLEASE STEP TO THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. 
          ALL SPEAKERS WILL BE LIMITED TO A MAXIMUM OF FIVE MINUTES AS INDICATED BY THE TIMERS. 
          WHEN THE TIMER BEEPS, THE SPEAKER SHOULD CONCLUDE THEIR COMMENTS PROMPTLY. 
          SPEAKERS MUST NOT PHYSICALLY APPROACH MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL OR STAFF AND SHOULD REMAIN ON THE AT THE PODIUM DURING THEIR COMMENTS. 
          SPEAKERS WITH HANDOUTS MUST PROVIDE THEM TO THE CITY SECRETARY FOR DISTRIBUTION SPEAKERS. 
          SUBMITTING COMMENTS ON THE SAME TOPIC ARE ENCOURAGED TO REDUCE REPETITIVE REMARKS BY INDICATING THEIR COMMENTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN ADDRESSED. 
          OR BY SELECTING A REPRESENTATIVE SPEAKER, THE TEXAS OPEN MEETING ACT PROHIBITS THE CITY COUNCIL FROM DISCUSSING OR TAKING ACTION ON ITEMS THAT ARE NOT POSTED ON THE AGENDA. 
          CITY STAFF OR CITY COUNCIL, EXCUSE ME, CITY COUNCIL OR STAFF WILL NOT AFFIRM OR OPPOSE ANY SPEAKER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS. 
          THE MAYOR OR CITY MANAGER MAY RESPOND WITH FACTS OF POLICY OR DIRECT CITY STAFF TO RESPOND TO THE SPEAKER. 
          AFTER THE MEETING, THE AUDIENCE HAS ASKED TO REFRAIN FROM APPLAUDING OR OTHER EXPRESSIONS OF SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION, A COUN A COPY OF THE COUNCIL RULES OF ORDER AND PROCEDURE. 
          AND THESE GUIDELINES MAY BE FOUND ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE. 
          AT THIS TIME, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE TO SILENCE THEIR CELL PHONE FOR THE DURATION OF THE MEETING. 
          I'LL TURN IT OVER TO CITY SECRETARY AMY NEER TO CALL THE SPEAKERS. 
          WE HAVE FOUR SPEAKERS TONIGHT, MAYOR STEVEN BUTLER. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          I'M DR. STEVEN BUTLER OF 1114 PACIFIC DRIVE, A 42 YEAR RESIDENT HOMEOWNER AND TAXPAYER OF RICHARDSON. 
          MOST OF YOU KNOW ME AS THE CITY'S UNOFFICIAL HISTORIAN, BUT BELIEVE IT OR NOT, I HAVE NOT COME HERE TONIGHT TO SPEAK ABOUT ANYTHING TO DO WITH HISTORY. 
          INSTEAD, AT THE RISK OF SOUNDING LIKE A GRUMPY OLD MAN, I WISH TO COMMENT ON A TOPIC THAT'S LITERALLY BEEN BOTHERING ME FOR YEARS. 
          RECENTLY, AFTER I READ THAT THE CITY WILL BE CLOSING THE NEIGHBORHOOD SWIMMING POOLS BEFORE SCHOOL STARTS ON AUGUST 12TH, I DECIDED TO REMAIN SILENT NO LONGER AS I HAVE DONE YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR, WHICH IS WHY I AM HERE TONIGHT. 
          ALTHOUGH I COULD BE WRONG. 
          I THINK I SPEAK FOR ALL OR ALMOST ALL THE SENIOR CITIZENS OF RICHARDSON. 
          WHEN I ASKED THE QUESTION, DOES THE CITY REALLY THINK THAT ONLY SCHOOL CHILDREN WISH TO 
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USE OUR CITY POOLS? WHAT ABOUT THE REST OF US, ESPECIALLY SENIOR CITIZENS WHO HAVE NO POOL SET ASIDE FOR THEIR EXCLUSIVE USE AND THEREFORE DURING THE SWIMMING SEASON, MUST PATIENTLY WAIT FOR 50 MINUTES OUT OF EACH HOUR TO HAVE A 10 MINUTE ADULT SWIM WITHOUT NOISY CHILDREN SPLASHING, DOING CANNON BALLS OFF THE SIDES OF THE POOLS AND JUST GENERALLY GETTING IN THE WAY OF ANYONE TRYING TO USE THE POOLS FOR ACTUAL SWIMMING? I CAN'T HELP BUT WONDER, DID IT EVER OCCUR TO THE CITY THAT BY CLOSING THE POOLS BASED SOLELY ON SCHOOL OPENING TIMES, YOU ARE DISCRIMINATING AGAINST THE OLDER RESIDENTS OF THE CITY AS SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T USE THE PUBLIC POOLS FOR EXACTLY THESE REASONS, AND I DOUBT THAT I'M THE ONLY ONE. 
          I IMPLORE THE CITY TO RECONSIDER ITS POLICY OF CLOSING THE NEIGHBORHOOD POOLS BEFORE THE ACTUAL END OF SUMMER SO THAT OLDER ADULTS CAN CONTINUE TO USE THEM IN RELATIVE PEACE AND CALM FOR THREE OR MORE WEEKS AFTER SCHOOL HAS STARTED. 
          IN THE EVENT THAT YOU ARE WONDERING HOW MANY OLDER ADULTS THERE ARE IN RICHARDSON, I'LL TELL YOU ACCORDING TO A WEBSITE CALLED CENSUS REPORTER OF RICHARDSON'S POPULATION OF NEARLY 118,000 PEOPLE, 16% OR 18,880 ARE 65 OR OLDER, WHICH IS A, A CONSIDERABLE NUMBER. 
          AND IF YOU INCLUDE EVERYONE WHO IS OLD ENOUGH AT AGE 50 TO QUALIFY FOR MEMBERSHIP IN THE A A RP, THAT'S THE AMERICAN ASSOCIATION FOR RETIRED PERSONS. 
          THE NUMBER IS EVEN LARGER, 31% OR 36,580, EVEN IF ONLY 10% OF THE SMALLER NUMBER USE THE POOLS EACH WEEK. 
          AND I'D LIKE TO THINK THE NUMBER WOULD ACTUALLY BE LARGER. 
          IT WOULD CERTAINLY BE WORTH KEEPING THE POOLS OPEN LONGER. 
          IN CONTRAST, THE TOTAL OF ALL RICHARDSON RESIDENTS 19 YEARS OF AGE OR YOUNGER ONLY AMOUNTS TO 22% OR 25,960 PERSONS. 
          I DON'T DOUBT THAT. 
          YOU MIGHT ALSO BE WONDERING WHAT ABOUT LIFEGUARDS? NOW, I AM AWARE THAT TRADITIONALLY THE CITY HIRES TEENAGE LIFE LIFEGUARDS WHO OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO GO BACK TO SCHOOL WHEN IT STARTS, BUT WHY CAN'T LIFEGUARDS WHO AREN'T OF SCHOOL AGE ALSO BE HIRED TO HIRE ONLY YOUNG PEOPLE AS LIFEGUARDS, AS LIFEGUARDS? SORRY, IS LIKEWISE DISCRIMINATORY. 
          ALTHOUGH WHAT I'M SUGGESTING IS ONE WAY TO HANDLE THE SITUATION. 
          I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO PROPOSE A PERMANENT SOLUTION. 
          WHY CAN'T THE CITY BUILD A POOL POOL THAT IS EX THAT IS EXCLUSIVELY FOR THE USE OF OLDER ADULTS, SAY 50 AND OVER. 
          THAT WAY ALL THE OTHER POOLS CAN BE CLOSED AFTER SCHOOL STARTS, WHILE THE SENIOR POOL REMAINS OPEN UNTIL SUMMER ACTUALLY ENDS ON SEPTEMBER 21ST OR 22ND. 
          OR BETTER YET, BUILD IT SO THAT IT IS PARTLY INDOOR AND PARTLY OUTDOOR AND KEEP THE INDOOR PART OPEN YEAR ROUND. 
          I SINCERELY HOPE YOU WILL SERIOUSLY CONSIDER THESE SUGGESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU DR. BUTLER. 
          CONNOR HOLLA RUNNING LATE. 
          ALEXANDER SCOTT, ALEXANDER SCOTT. 
          IT'S JUST NAME, INTRODUCTION ADDRESS. 
          UM, HELLO, I'M ALEXANDER SCOTT. 
          I LIVE ON GREENBRIER LANE, UH, JUST SOUTH OF UTD AND I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE 5% GMP THAT THE DART BOARD'S BEEN TALKING ABOUT. 
          UM, AND JUST SPEAK OUT AGAINST IT. 
          THE FIVE PER CUT, 5% CUT BEING PROPOSED IS GOING TO LIKE DRASTICALLY REDUCE THE BUS AND RAIL FREQUENCIES AROUND, INCLUDING THE NEW SILVER LINE. 
          THE SILVER LINE FREQUENCY 
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BEING REDUCED IS THE MAIN THING I'M CONCERNED ABOUT WITH IT GOING FROM, UH, 30 MINUTES ON THE WEEKDAY TO I, IT'S AN HOUR DURING THE WEEK. 
          UH, THIS CUT PRACTICALLY MAKES IT USELESS FOR MY FAMILY TO RELIABLY GET TO THE AIRPORT AND GET BACK HOME. 
          UH, WITH IT BEING LIKE IF THE FLIGHT GETS DELAYED AT THE DESTINATION OR IT JUST TAKES A WHILE TO TAXI FROM DFW, UM, YOU MISS THE TRAIN, YOU'RE GONNA BE HAVING TO WAIT AN HOUR. 
          UH, IF MY UNCLES ARE COMING FROM TOWN, UH, IF MY UNCLE COMES FROM OUT OF TOWN, HE'S GOT A KID, HE DOESN'T EXACTLY WANNA BE SITTING AT THE AIRPORT FOR AN EXTRA HOUR WAITING TO GET BACK. 
          UM, REALLY ALL I JUST WANNA SEE IS LIKE RICHARDSON, UH, COME OUT AND TRY AND MAKE SURE THE GMP AT LEAST DOESN'T CUT BUS AND UH, RAIL FREQUENCY. 
          UH, THAT'S ALL FOR ME. 
          THANK YOU, MR. SCOTT. 
          SHAM, ESRA, GOOD EVENING. 
          MY NAME IS SHA ESRA, REPRESENTING AS A MEMBER OF THE DALLAS AREA TRANSIT ALLIANCE. 
          I LIVE AT 1 2 1 6 4 DALLAS DRIVE, FRISCO, TEXAS 7 5 0 3 5. 
          I USE THE FAR NORTH PLANO GOLINK ZONE, ROUTE 2 54 AND THE RED LINE OR FABLE ORANGE. 
          I'M MERGING THE CITY OF RICHARDSON TO WORK WITH DART TO OPPOSE SERVICE CUTS AND IF NECESSARY, NOT TAKE THEIR PART OF THE 5% GENERAL MOBILITY PLAN. 
          THE GENERAL MOBILITY PLAN WOULD RESULT IN MAJOR SERVICE CUTS TO THE ENTIRE SYSTEM, INCLUDING THE ROUTE I USED 2 54, BUT A BETTER EXPLANATION ABOUT WHAT THE GENERAL MOBILITY PLAN IS. 
          PLANO STILL WANTED TO CUT DART'S FUNDING DUE TO FAILED LEGISLATION. 
          I DO AGREE WITH BUILDING SAFER STREETS AND SAFER SIDEWALKS, HOWEVER, PULLING FUNDING OUTTA PUBLIC TRANSIT TO DO SO IS NOT A VIABLE, VIABLE OPTION. 
          I'M MERGING YOU TO SEEK FOR OTHER OPTIONS TO FUNDING THE GENERAL MOBILITY PLAN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I YIELD MY TIME. 
          CONNOR HOLLA. 
          UH, THANK YOU. 
          I AM, UH, LATE BECAUSE OF DART DELAYS ACTUALLY, BUT , I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT DART. 
          UM, MY NAME IS CONNOR. 
          I LIVE IN THE CITY LINE NEIGHBORHOOD OVER HERE IN RICHARDSON. 
          AND, UM, FIRST I'M REALLY, REALLY THANKFUL TO OUR CITY COUNCIL FOR SUPPORTING DART ALL THESE MONTHS. 
          I'VE BEEN WATCHING ALL YOUR MEETINGS AND I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. 
          UM, AS DART'S GOING THROUGH THEIR BUDGETING PROCESS RIGHT NOW, UM, THEY'RE AT, THERE'S PRETTY BIG RISK RIGHT NOW OF PRETTY MAJOR SERVICE CUTS AND I'M SURE ALL OF Y'ALL ARE FAMILIAR, BUT THE CITY OF PLANO IS THREATENING DART WITH LEGISLATION AND DART FEELS COMPELLED OR MAYBE FORCED  TO GIVE, UM, THE CITY OF PLANO LOTS OF MONEY TO MAYBE AVOID A LEGISLATIVE THREAT THAT WILL REALLY UPEND THEIR SERVICES. 
          BUT, UM, LOOKING AT THEIR MEETINGS, 'CAUSE I WATCH ALL THE DAR BOARD MEETINGS, THEY ARE LOOKING TO CUT MAYBE AROUND $20 MILLION WORTH OF SERVICES TO HELP FUND THIS GENERAL MOBILITY PROGRAM. 
          AND THEY'RE MAKING CUTS ELSEWHERE HERE TOO. 
          BUT AS FAR AS SERVICES GOES, THE BUS BUSES, THE NUMBER OF TRAINS THEY RUN, UM, $20 MILLION OUT OF THAT. 
          AND THIS IS REALLY, UM, CONCERNING TO ME BECAUSE THERE ARE CERTAIN BUS ROUTES THAT WILL NO LONGER EXIST POTENTIALLY, OR EVEN JUST HAVING THE TRAINS LESS RUN, RUN LESS OFTEN, UH, FORCING US TO WAIT LONGER FOR THE TRAINS OR THE BUSES. 
          UM, I UNDERSTAND DARTS IN A PREDICAMENT THOUGH, RIGHT? MAYBE I DON'T KNOW HOW VIABLE OR IF IT'S SMART TO SAY, HEY, DON'T DO THIS GENERAL MOBILITY PROGRAM, THIS 5% REDUCTION, KIND OF GIVING PLANO WHAT THEY WANT BECAUSE PLANO WILL GO BACK TO THE STATE LEDGE NEXT YEAR. 
          BUT I'M NOT SURE THOUGH THEY MIGHT WANT TO GO THROUGH THE THOROUGH LEGISLATION ANYWAYS, EVEN IF DART GIVES THEM THEIR MONEY. 
          UM, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, I REALLY WANT, UH, I THINK THE DART BOARD, THEY'VE HEARD FROM US ALREADY, LIKE HUNDREDS OF US . 
          I THINK THE DART BOARD THOUGH, THEY REALLY LIKE LISTEN TO THE CITY COUNCIL. 
          SO IF YOU, UM, COULD PLEASE, UH, EXPRESS TO THE DART BOARD, UM, MAYBE WE CAN FIND A SOLUTION THAT DOESN'T INVOLVE SERVICE CUTS. 
          LOOKING AT THEIR BUDGET, I KNOW DART NEXT YEAR HAS TO SPEND A NET $9 MILLION ON FIFA, BUT THEY'RE LOOKING TO CUT 20 IN OPERATIONS. 
          TO ME, THAT'S ONE POTENTIAL WAY THEY COULD MAYBE HELP AVOID SERVICE CUTS. 
          YOU KNOW, WHY SHOULD REGULAR WRITERS LIKE US HAVE TO 
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SUFFER FOR FIFA TOURISTS? AND, YOU KNOW, SO PLANO CAN GET SOME MONEY, BUT THAT'S BESIDES THE POINT. 
          , THAT MIGHT BE POLITICALLY UNFEASIBLE TO NOT GIVE LENA WHAT THEY WANT. 
          I'M NOT SURE. 
          BUT ANYWAYS, JUST PLEASE, I ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO WORK WITH DART AND TRY TO MINIMIZE THE HARM THAT IS DONE IN THIS BUDGET. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU MR. HOLLA. 
          NO OTHER CARDS, MAYOR, UH, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT DESIRES TO SPEAK? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE 
          [5. REVIEW AND DISCUSS PROPOSED CHARTER AMENDMENTS AND PROPOSITIONS]
ON TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE, REVIEW AND DISCUSS PROPOSED CHARTER AMENDMENTS AND PROPOSITIONS. 
          MR. MAGNER. 
          UH, THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          UH, WE ARE HERE TONIGHT. 
          UH, REALLY JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON ONE OUTSTANDING ITEM, UH, FROM WHAT HAS BEEN, UH, SEVERAL COUNCIL MEETINGS, UH, EACH, EACH MEETING IN, IN JUNE AND THE LAST MEETING IN JULY THAT YOU'VE DEDICATED, UH, TO RECEIVING THE CHARTER COMMISSION'S, UH, UM, RECOMMENDATION AND, AND REALLY REFINING THAT, UH, THROUGH, UH, WORK WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY, PETE SMITH AND, AND, UH, AMY AND DANETTE FROM OUR OFFICE LEADING, UH, THOSE EFFORTS. 
          AND SO, UH, REALLY JUST LOOKING TONIGHT, HOPEFULLY TO, UM, GAIN CONSENSUS FROM YOU THAT YOU'RE READY FOR US TO PROCEED, UM, WITH, UH, DRAFTING AN ORDINANCE THAT WE WOULD BRING BACK TO YOU ON, UM, AUGUST 11TH, UH, FOR YOU TO CALL A CHARTER, UH, UH, AMENDMENT ELECTION FOR THIS NOVEMBER. 
          AND, UH, SO AMY, DO YOU HAVE A SLIDE THAT YOU WERE GONNA PUT UP? UM, OKAY. 
          SO, UH, YOU'LL RECALL THE, UH, REMAINING, UM, OUTSTANDING PROPOSITION THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT. 
          UH, MAYOR TEMA, HOPEFULLY THIS IS RESPONSIVE, UH, TO, UH, THE DIRECTION THAT YOU WERE, YOU WERE GIVEN THAT NIGHT. 
          UH, WE'LL LET YOU JUST TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. 
          ALL OF THE OTHER PROPOSITIONS, UH, REMAIN, UH, CONSISTENT. 
          UH, UH, PETE, UH, AND I THINK, UH, THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN ONE OR TWO LITTLE, UH, GRAMMATICAL CHANGES, BUT SUBSTANTIVELY NO OTHER CHANGES TO THE 40 PLUS PROPOSITIONS THAT YOU REVIEWED PREVIOUSLY. 
          UM, PETE, DO YOU WANNA ADD ANYTHING TO, UH, TO, TO THIS? UM, UH, NO, DONNA, I THINK, I THINK THAT EXPRESSES WHAT YOU WANTED. 
          THE OTHER ONE IS REPEALED, SO THIS SHOULD BE GOOD, RIGHT? SO AGAIN, MAYOR, REALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS ON 1808, UM, IT'S JUST CONSENSUS THAT YOU'D LIKE US TO PLACE THE, UM, RESOLUTION, I'M SORRY, THE ORDINANCE CALLING THE ELECTION FOR NOVEMBER ON YOUR AUGUST 11TH, UH, AGENDA. 
          IS THERE ANY OBJECTION? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU, SIR. 
          THAT WAS THE SHORTEST CHARTER CONVERSATION WE'VE HAD SO FAR, . 
          GREAT JOB. 
          THANKS. 
          ALRIGHT, UH, ITEM 
          [6. REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE RICHARDSON FIRE DEPARTMENT STRATEGIC MASTER PLAN]
NUMBER SIX, REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE RICHARDSON FIRE DEPARTMENT STRATEGIC MASTER PLAN. 
          MR. MAGNER. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          EXCITED, UH, TO WELCOME BACK CHIEF VY, AS WELL AS, UH, ASSISTANT CHIEFS, UH, UH, CENTER YOUNG AND CASKEY. 
          UH, BACK IN NOVEMBER, UM, NOVEMBER 4TH, UH, YOU'LL RECALL THAT, UH, CHIEF, UM, PUY JOINED US. 
          UH, WE WERE ABLE THEN, UM, WITH, UH, THE HELP OF THE CONSULTING TEAM TO PROVIDE YOU WITH, UH, THE STRATEGIC, UH, MASTER AN OVERVIEW OF THE STRATEGIC MASTER PLAN PROCESS. 
          UH, YOU THEN REVIEWED THE CONSULTANT'S ASSESSMENT, UM, OF THE DEPARTMENT, AND WE DISCUSSED NEXT STEPS, WHICH INCLUDED TONIGHT'S BRIEFING, UM, WHICH, UH, YOU'LL SEE CHIEF VY HAS TAKEN, UH, MANY OF THE, UH, MID AND LONG-TERM ACTION ITEMS AND, UH, UH, PREPARED THOSE FOR, UH, A, UH, 10 YEAR IMPLEMENTATION PLAN. 
          AND SO, WHAT'D, UH, LIKE TO ASK CHIEF OOBE TO DO, UH, IS TO RUN YOU THROUGH THE VARIOUS, UH, MILESTONES IN THAT IMPLEMENTATION PLAN. 
          UH, VERY IMPORTANTLY, UM, UH, WE HAVE INCLUDED NOT ONLY A TIMELINE, BUT, UH, FUNDING, UH, REQUIREMENT BOTH ON THE CAPITAL AND OPERATIONS SIDE. 
          AND IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO, TO, UH, BE MINDFUL OF THOSE TWO DIFFERENT, UH, FUNDING, UH, NEEDS AS WE LOOK AT THIS PLAN. 
          AND SO, UM, WHAT WE'LL BE LOOKING FOR AT THE END OF THE NIGHT HERE IS JUST A LITTLE BIT OF CONCURRENCE. 
          YOU'LL START TO SEE, UH, THAT SOME OF THESE ACTION ITEMS WILL BEGIN WITH SERIES 26, UH, WHICH WILL BE PRESENTED TO YOU AS PART OF YOUR BUDGET WORKSHOP NEXT WEEK. 
          UM, AND, UH, THEN I'LL, I'LL ULTIMATELY THAT, UH, SALE, UH, UH, ABOUT NEXT APRIL OR SO, BUT KEY COMPONENTS TO THIS PLAN, STARTING AS EARLY AS, AS, UH, SERIES 26. 
          SO, UH, CHIEF, THANKS FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE DONE, UH, TO GET US HERE. 
          I WILL CALL, UH, COUNSEL TO YOUR ATTENTION. 
          UH, YOU'LL, YOU'VE GOT A LARGE, UH, 11 BY 17, UH, HANDOUT OF, UH, THIS IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, WHICH WILL BE THE VERY LAST SLIDE THAT WE WILL KIND OF HOLD ON AND, UH, HAVE DISCUSSION AROUND. 
          UH, SO CHIEF, LEMME TURN IT OVER TO YOU AND, UH, TO ALL THE ASSISTANT CHIEFS, THANKS FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU, MR. MAGNER. 
          UH, MAYOR COUNSEL, AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR, UH, ALLOWING US TO COME BEFORE YOU TONIGHT AND PRESENT THIS PLAN. 
          IT HAS BEEN A LONG TIME COMING. 
          WE STARTED THIS BACK IN 20, UH, 17, LOOKING AT IT, UH, HAD GREAT THOUGHTS OF, UH, LOOKING AT CALL VOLUMES, LOOKING AT, UH, ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT WERE COMING TO TOWN, THE DENSITY, ALL THAT COVID HAPPENS, 
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THROWS A KINK AND EVERYTHING IS, UH, HAS DONE EVERYTHING IN OUR WORLD. 
          UH, SLOWED US DOWN. 
          WE PICKED IT BACK UP. 
          UM, REALLY WORKED REALLY HARD WITH THE EXECUTIVE TEAM COMING OUT WITH WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS GONNA BE THE PLAN FOR 10 YEARS. 
          UM, WANTED TO BRING IN CONSULTANTS TO PUT A THIRD PARTY LOOK AT IT, MAKE SURE WE WERE ON THE, THE RIGHT TRACK, LOOKING AT EVERYTHING, AND BROUGHT IN CPSM, WHICH YOU LIKE. 
          HE SAID, YOU WERE, UH, HEARD FROM JOE POSO. 
          HE'S THE LEAD OF THAT, UH, ON NOVEMBER 4TH, WHO DID A GREAT JOB. 
          THEY TOOK A VERY, VERY STRONG LOOK, UH, AT THE CITY, AT THE DEPARTMENT. 
          UM, AND IT, AS A RESULT, CAME BACK WITH MULTIPLE DIFFERENT INITIATIVES AND, UH, UH, PUT ALL THOSE TOGETHER, PRESENTED 'EM THAT NIGHT. 
          WE TOOK ALL THE INITIATIVES, EVERYTHING, ALL OF YOUR COMMENTS, WENT BACK, NAILED DOWN, WORKED WITH OUR INTERNAL STAKEHOLDERS, OUR TEAMS, AND REALLY COME UP WITH A PLAN THAT I'M GONNA PRESENT TO YOU TONIGHT. 
          SO, UM, AND THAT WAS WHAT WAS IN YOUR PACKET. 
          THE REALLY LONG ONE WAS THE REPORT THAT YOU HAD ALREADY SEEN. 
          SO, UH, I'VE BROKEN THEM DOWN TONIGHT INTO TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. 
          ONE IS ALL OF THE INITIATIVES THAT ARE CURRENTLY UNDERWAY OR COMPLETED, AND THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE ONES THAT HAVE SIGNIFICANT, UH, COST TO THEM AND LONG TERM PLANNING PROCESSES. 
          SO, UH, FIRST IS THE, THE, ALL THE ONES THAT ARE CURRENTLY UNDERWAY. 
          UH, THE, AND THESE ARE THE INITIATIVES THAT ARE IN THAT PLANT. 
          UH, THE CREATION OF A HEALTH AND SAFETY COMMITTEE THAT IS UNDERWAY. 
          WE, WE'VE GOT FEW THINGS TO, TO COMPLETE THAT OUT. 
          EVERYTHING THAT THE HEALTH AND SAFETY CO COMMITTEE WOULD BE LOOKING AT IS LOOKED AT IN THE RICHARDSON FIRE DEPARTMENT. 
          NOW, IT'S JUST NOT LOOKED AT FROM QUOTE, A HEALTH AND SAFETY COMMITTEE WORKING ON THAT, A SUCCESSION PLAN. 
          WE HAVE A SUCCESSION PLAN. 
          IT'S NOT TO THE LEVEL THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT. 
          THEY REALLY WANT, UH, OUR MID LEVEL COMMANDERS, REALLY CAPTAINS, HAVE THEM HAVE A LOOK OF HOW TO BASICALLY GET TO THE EXECUTIVE CHIEF LEVEL. 
          QUITE FRANKLY, ALL OF US CAN RETIRE TODAY, AND THEY KNOW THAT. 
          AND THEY WANT A PLAN TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE COVERED FROM INSIDE THE ORGANIZATION. 
          WE ARE WORKING ON THAT CHANGE MANAGEMENT. 
          FIREMEN DO NOT LIKE THINGS THE WAY THEY ARE, AND THEY DON'T LIKE CHANGE. 
          SO IT'S KIND OF DIFFICULT TO MAKE A CHANGE. 
          UH, SO THEY, THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE US PUT OUR CHANGE POLICY THAT WE ACTUALLY DO WHEN WE MAKE A CHANGE, HOW DO WE DO IT IN THE STEPS? THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT IN WRITING EMS STAFF ROTATION, WE, WE WENT 48 96 ON OUR SHIFTS WHERE OUR PERSONNEL WORK, 48 HOURS ON 96 HOURS OFF. 
          THEY'RE REALLY CONCERNED THAT PEOPLE WOULD RIDE THE AMBULANCE FOR 48 HOURS STRAIGHT, UM, AND WOULD LIKE TO SEE A ROTATION WHERE THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO THAT. 
          WE HAVE THIS IN EFFECT NOW, BUT IT'S NOT THAT STRINGENT BECAUSE WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT, LET OUR COMMANDERS MAKE THE DECISION. 
          WHO'S THE MOST RESTED TO RIDE THE AMBULANCE? BECAUSE THE AMBULANCE MAY HAVE RESTED ALL NIGHT. 
          THE ENGINE MAY HAVE RAN ALL NIGHT. 
          SO LET'S DON'T TAKE THOSE PERSONNEL, PUT 'EM ON THE ENGINE. 
          SO WE HAVE A PLAN. 
          IT'S IN EFFECT RIGHT NOW, ELEVATE THE EMS BATTALION CHIEF TO A HIGHER LEVEL CHIEF OFFICER. 
          WE HAVE DONE THAT. 
          THE EMS BATTALION CHIEF IS NOW A DEPUTY CHIEF, WHICH IS ABOVE A BATTALION BELOW ASSISTANT. 
          THAT POSITION HAS BEEN CREATED. 
          THE PROMOTION FOR THAT WILL BE ON AUGUST 10TH, OR WILL TAKE EFFECT ON AUGUST 10TH. 
          THAT'S ACTUALLY SUNDAY. 
          AND THAT'LL BE, UH, BATTALION CHIEF DAVID ENGLISH HAS TAKEN THAT POSITION. 
          SO HE WILL BE THE FIRST DEPUTY CHIEF OF EMS, UH, MONITOR EXEC, UH, ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT STAFFING NEEDS. 
          THEY DO NOT FEEL THAT WE HAVE ADEQUATE AMOUNT OF CIVILIAN ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT. 
          OUR TEAM BELIEVES WE REALLY DO AT THIS POINT, WE'RE ACTUALLY DOWN ONE AND HAVE THAT POSITION FROZEN. 
          UH, WE'RE, WE'RE KEEPING OUR HEAD ABOVE WATER RIGHT NOW. 
          SO WHEN WE'RE FULLY STAFFED, WE FEEL WE'RE GOOD WITH THAT. 
          BUT IN THE COMING YEARS, WE'LL CONSTANTLY KEEP AN EYE ON THAT. 
          WHAT IS THE WORKLOAD OF THESE INDIVIDUALS? UH, FACIL FACILITIES MAINTENANCE PROGRAM, WORKING REALLY HARD WITH WAYNE AND HIS TEAM. 
          WE HAVE A GREAT FACILITIES PROGRAM. 
          UM, SO WE, WE'VE GOT THAT TAKEN CARE OF. 
          IT'S DONE SUSTAINED FIRE AND EMS OPERATIONAL FLEET, WORKING WITH CHIEF YOUNGER'S GROUP AND FLEET MAINTENANCE. 
          WE HAVE A VERY STRONG FLEET PROGRAM, UH, AS YOU TELL, 'CAUSE I COME TO YOU ASKING FOR NEW FIRE APPARATUS. 
          PRETTY CON PRETTY CONSISTENTLY. 
          WE HAVE A GOOD PROGRAM. 
          OUR FACILITIES, UH, I'M SORRY, OUR, UH, OUR FLEET MAINTENANCE PERSONNEL TAKE CARE OF THE APPARATUS. 
          OUR BIGGEST PROBLEM WITH THIS IS THE APPARATUS LEAD TIMES TO GET THE NEW APPARATUS IN. 
          SO WE HAVE TO REALLY THINK ON THE OTHER SIDE AND SAY, WHEN DO WE NEED TO ORDER THESE? SO THAT'S WHY I'LL BE COMING TO YOU IN THE FUTURE SAYING WE NEED TO ORDER THIS, THIS VEHICLE FOR FOUR YEARS DOWN THE ROAD. 
          THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          ALSO, THE THINGS THAT 
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HURT US IN THIS AREA ARE PARTS FLEET TIMES. 
          SO PARTS FOR FIRE TRUCKS ARE PRETTY HARD TO GET. 
          SO WE CONSISTENTLY HAVE THEM OUTTA SERVICE FOR QUITE A WHILE. 
          BUT AS FAR AS THE PROGRAM GOES, THE PROGRAM IS THERE WITH OUR, WITH OUR FLEET SERVICES, MAINTAIN ISO REQUIREMENTS. 
          WE DO THAT WITH EVERYTHING WE DO. 
          THAT IS IN OUR MINDS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT, UH, ON TOP. 
          WE EVEN HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT TODAY. 
          SO THAT'S OUR ELEVATE NEED FOR A MOBILE INTEGRATED HEALTH SYSTEM. 
          IF YOU RECALL, THAT WAS THE PARAMEDIC COMMUNITY PARAMEDIC PROGRAM THAT THEY DISCUSSED TO WHERE, UM, WE HAVE PERSONNEL THAT GO OUT AND CHECK PEOPLE AT THEIR HOUSES. 
          THEIR, THE HOSPITAL WOULD ENROLL SOMEONE INTO THAT PROGRAM. 
          UM, AND WE WOULD GO WATCH 'EM, UH, NOT ON AN EMERGENCY BASIS, GO OUT, CHECK ON 'EM. 
          IF THEY'RE ON DIURETICS, WE MAY WEIGH THEM, CALL THE DOCTOR, ADJUST THEIR MEDICATIONS. 
          THAT'S BASICALLY HOME HEALTH. 
          AND WE DO NOT FEEL WE'RE AT THE POINT RIGHT NOW TO WHERE WE NEED THIS. 
          UH, WORKED WITH THE, UH, UH, THE, THE FABULOUS PRESIDENT AT OUR LOCAL HOSPITAL, AND WE'VE LOOKED AT IT AND SAID, , WE, WE MAY KNOW HIM, UH, AND DETERMINED THAT WE'RE REALLY NOT TO A POINT THAT WE NEED THIS IN THE CITY RIGHT NOW. 
          THERE ARE POINTS TO IT I WANNA LOOK AT LATER ON, AND THAT'S LIKE SOCIAL WORK THAT COMES INTO PLAY. 
          SOMETIMES WE NEED, BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE NOT TO A POINT THAT WE NEED THAT. 
          OUR TEAM FILLS CONVI, CONTINUALLY EVALUATE THE AUTOMATIC AID PROGRAM. 
          UH, AUTOMATED AID AGREEMENTS. 
          THAT IS WHERE, LIKE WE HAVE AN AUTOMATIC AID AGREEMENT WITH PLANO AND GARLAND WHERE THEY CALL US AND WE AUTOMATICALLY GO TO CERTAIN AREAS OF THEIR TOWN. 
          WE CALL THEM. 
          THEY AUTOMATICALLY COME TO US. 
          US UM, CPSM REALLY EVALUATED THIS ON OUR WEST SIDE. 
          THEY FEEL THAT WE NEED TO DO AN AUTOMATIC AID AGREEMENT, ENHANCE THE AGREEMENT THAT WE ALREADY HAVE WITH DALLAS ON CERTAIN AREA AREAS OF DALLAS. 
          WHAT THEY DIDN'T KNOW, WHAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE AVAILABLE TO THEM IS DALLAS'S DATA. 
          WE KNOW FROM, FROM BEING, WORKING OVER HERE THAT IF WE DID THAT AGREEMENT, IF DALLAS EVEN AGREED TO IT, THEN OUR UNITS WOULD ACTUALLY BE IN DALLAS MUCH MORE THE TIME, WHICH WOULD BE TAKING THEM OUT OF OUR CITY MOST TIME. 
          IF DALLAS NEEDS US, THEY CALL US. 
          JUST LIKE IF WE NEED THEM, THEY CALL US. 
          SO DOING AN AUTOMATIC AID AGREEMENT WITH THEM ON THAT SIDE OF TOWN DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FOR OUR CITY. 
          UM, ENHANCE THE DISPATCH SYSTEM TO DECREASED RESPONSE TIMES. 
          THAT IS MOSTLY DONE. 
          IT'S ACTUALLY UP AND RUNNING RIGHT NOW. 
          OUR CAD, UH, HAS BEEN UPGRADED. 
          THIS SYSTEM'S ENDS. 
          IT'S AUTOMATICALLY DISPATCHING THE UNITS OUT. 
          IT NEEDS A LOT OF TWEAKING BECAUSE IT'S BRAND NEW, BUT IT'S UP AND RUNNING. 
          IT'S DOING A GOOD JOB. 
          AND THAT UNITS ARE GETTING OUT OF THE HOUSE A LOT FASTER NOW. 
          SO IT'S DOING ITS JOB. 
          THEN LASTLY, ADOPT THE 302ND TRAVEL TIME BENCHMARK. 
          RIGHT NOW, NFPA 1710 SAYS THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO HIT THE FURTHEST PART OF OUR DISTRICTS IN 240 SECONDS. 
          WE CAN'T MAKE THAT WITH THE TRAVEL, WITH, WITH, UM, UM, TRAFFIC WITH CONSTRUCTION AND MANY OTHER FACTORS. 
          WE CAN'T MAKE THAT ALL THE TIME, AND VERY RARELY DOES A CITY DO THAT. 
          SO THEY'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT OUR NUMBERS AND SAY, WE SHOULD ADOPT 302ND BENCHMARK. 
          THAT'S JUST AN INTERNAL DOCUMENT TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT MAKING IT. 
          OUR GOAL IS WHAT THAT ENDS UP BEING. 
          ANY QUESTIONS ON THOSE? OKAY, CHIEF? YES, SORRY. 
          WOULD ADOPTING A 300 AFFECT ANYTHING WITH ISO OR ANY OTHER? OKAY. 
          NO, SIR. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, NOW WE GET INTO THE, THE ONES THAT TAKE SIGNIFICANT PLANNING AND FUNDING. 
          FIRST ONE IS ADDING A TRUCK COMPANY TO NORTHWEST RICHARDSON, WHICH IS BASICALLY STATION THREE. 
          RECALL, WE HAVE ONE TRUCK AT THIS TIME. 
          THAT IS A TRUE TRUCK COMPANY, AND THAT'S AT STATION FOUR ON THIS SIDE OF TOWN. 
          UH, THIS WOULD BE ADDING ONE TO WEST RICHARDSON. 
          UH, IN ORDER TO DO THIS TIMELINE, WE WOULD NEED TO ORDER THE TRUCK THIS YEAR. 
          IT TAKES ABOUT FIVE YEARS TO GET, UH, WE WOULD HIRE 15 FIRE PERSONNEL AND FY 28, MAKE PROMOTIONS IN FY 30 AND PLACE IT IN SERVICE IN FY 30. 
          THAT WOULD BE THE GOAL IS GETTING IT IN SERVICE IN 30 AND WORKING BACKWARDS. 
          CAPITAL COST THE TRUCK AND EQUIPMENT WOULD BE $2.7 MILLION. 
          OPERATING COST FOR 15 FIREFIGHTERS WOULD BE 2.4 MILLION, AND THAT WOULD BE PER YEAR. 
          UM, THERE IS NOT CAPITAL COST ASSOCIATED WITH THE STATION, LIVING QUARTERS, ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          STATION THREE WAS BUILT WITH A TRUCK IN MIND WHEN WE BUILT STATION THREE. 
          NEXT APPARATUS, STORAGE BUILDING, UH, AND REPAIR CENTER. 
          SO WE HAVE, I BELIEVE, FIVE OR SIX RESERVE FIRE APPARATUS FOR WHEN ONE GOES DOWN. 
          WE HAVE TO PUT ANOTHER RIGHT IN PLACE IN EACH TYPE OF APPARATUS, AND WE HAVE TO STORE THOSE. 
          WE WOULD LIKE TO PUT A BUILDING BEHIND STATION 
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FIVE TO HOUSE THEM SECURELY. 
          UM, AND ALSO THE SHOP WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THEIR FIRE REPAIR CENTER OUT OF THE MAIN SERVICE CENTER, OPEN THAT UP FOR OTHER TYPE OF REPAIRS AND MOVE THEIR, THEIR MECHANICS OR EMERGENCY VEHICLE MECHANICS AND ALL THEIR EQUIPMENT OUT TO THIS STATION OR OUT TO THIS BUILDING AND, UH, PUT IT IN SERVICE AND DO ALL THE REPAIRS THERE. 
          THAT WOULD BE A REQUEST IN THE 26 BOND ELECTION FOR 5.5 MILLION. 
          AND THAT WOULD BE A FIVE BAY, UH, STORAGE FACILITY. 
          THEN STATION SIX RENOVATION STATION SIX, UH, OUT IN THE PANHANDLE BY KEFFER FIELD. 
          UM, WE ADDED TWO PERSONNEL WHEN WE ADDED AMBULANCE 36. 
          AND, UH, THAT ONE ACTUALLY HAS, DOESN'T HAVE ROOM INSIDE THE STATION FOR WORKOUT FACILITY THAT WE'VE PUT IN THE REST OF THE STATIONS. 
          AND IT WAS BUILT BACK AT 2000 WITH THAT TYPE OF CONCEPT, WHICH REALLY CUT UP LOTS OF WALLS. 
          WE NEED TO GO IN, OPEN THAT UP A LITTLE BIT, UH, FOR THE ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL, AND THEN BUILD A WORKOUT FACILITY THAT WOULD TAKE ONE, UH, ADDITION. 
          BASICALLY MOVING TWO WALLS OUT TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. 
          THAT WOULD BE A REQUEST 26 BOND ELECTION FOR 1.9 MILLION. 
          APPLICATION, UH, COMPUTER APPLICATIONS MANAGER. 
          SO CHIEF YOUNGER'S SECTION, THEY ARE DEALING WITH MANY MORE COMPUTER APPLICATIONS THAN WE EVER HAVE IN THE PAST. 
          WE'RE TALKING SECURITY SYSTEMS, DIFFERENT REPORTING SOFTWARES, INVENTORY SYSTEMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          WE'VE GOTTEN TO THE POINT THAT IN ORDER TO MANAGE THE SYSTEMS, I HAVE AN ASSISTANT CHIEF THAT IS REALLY A COMPUTER PERSON. 
          HE'S ACTUALLY DOING DATA INPUT INSTEAD OF MANAGING PROJECTS. 
          SO THIS WOULD ADD A PERSON TO HIS SECTION THAT WOULD MANAGE ALL THESE APPLICATIONS. 
          UH, TIMELINE FISCAL YEAR 27, NO CAPITAL COST AND, UH, OPERATING COSTS WOULD BE AROUND A HUNDRED THOUSAND EMS CAPTAINS. 
          SO EMS CAPTAINS, WE HAVE TWO MS CAPTAINS NOW THEY'RE IN ADMINISTRATION. 
          THESE WOULD BE EMS CAPTAINS TO WORK ON SHIFT TO BE THE EMS SUPERVISORS FROM DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS DOWN IN THE FIELD. 
          UH, RIGHT NOW, 51% OF MY PERSONNEL ARE UNDER 10 YEARS. 
          THESE ARE THE FOLKS THAT ARE RUNNING AMBULANCES, MAKING EMS CALLS AND OUR SUPERVISION ARE THE BATTALION CHIEFS THAT, UH, ARE RUNNING. 
          SO THIS WOULD ADD EMS CAPTAINS FOR SUPERVISION. 
          THEY WERE ALSO, UH, BE THE SAFETY OFFICER ON STRUCTURE FIRES. 
          UH, THAT REQUEST WOULD BE THE HIRE IN FISCAL YEAR 27, PLACE 'EM IN SERVICE IN 27. 
          CAPITAL COST, UH, WOULD BE ZERO. 
          THERE'S ALREADY A PLACE AT STATION, ONE OFFICE AT STATION, ONE BEDROOMS AT STATION ONE. 
          AND THE VEHICLE WE HAVE, IT'S JUST UTILIZED BY THE, UH, PERSONNEL UPSTAIRS. 
          SO OPERATING COST WOULD BE 300,000. 
          SEVENTH AMBULANCE. 
          SO WE PUT AMBULANCE 36 IN SERVICE IN, UH, OCTOBER OF 23. 
          AND WE'RE DOING GOOD ON CALL VOLUME RIGHT NOW. 
          I SEE IT GOING UP AND BELIEVE THAT PROBABLY BY 27 WE'RE GONNA NEED A PEAK DEMAND AMBULANCE. 
          PEAK DEMAND BEING OPENS UP AT SEVEN O'CLOCK, SHUTS DOWN AT 7:00 PM UM, TO DO THAT, WE WOULD NEED TO PURCHASE THE AMBULANCE. 
          WE'D NEED TO ORDER AMBULANCE IN 26. 
          IT TAKES 18 MONTHS TO GET THOSE. 
          ORDER THE EQUIPMENT, UH, INCREASE THE OVERTIME AND FY 27. 
          WE WOULD RUN THIS ON OVERTIME WITH OUR CURRENT PERSONNEL, NOT HIRE ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL AND, UH, PUT IT IN SERVICE IN FISCAL YEAR 27. 
          WHEN STATION SEVEN, HE, I'M GONNA ASK FOR A FIRE STATION WHEN THAT STATION WOULD OPEN UP, THIS AMBULANCE WOULD THEN BECOME FULL-TIME AT THAT STATION. 
          UH, CAPITAL COST FOR THE AMBULANCE AND THE EQUIPMENT. 
          550,000 OPERATING COSTS FOR OVERTIME TO RUN IT. 
          SEVEN TO SEVEN, UM, EVERY DAY WOULD BE $430,000. 
          ADDITIONAL OVERTIME. 
          COMMUNITY RISK REDUCTION, OUTREACH COORDINATOR, THIS IS THE PERSON THAT GOES OUT, SETS UP, UH, STOP, DROP AND ROLL EDUCATION. 
          THESE ARE, UH, SETTING UP WITH SCHOOLS, SETTING UP WITH BUSINESSES, UH, EXTINGUISHER TRAINING, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          RIGHT NOW THAT'S DONE THROUGH THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE AS THEY CAN. 
          AND THE CREWS ON THE SHIP, ON THE TRUCKS ARE GOING OUT AND DOING IT. 
          SO THIS PERSON WOULD COORDINATE THAT AND ACTUALLY HANDLE A LOT OF THE, THE TRAINING THEMSELVES HIRING FISCAL YEAR 27, NO CAPITAL COSTS, BUT OPERATING WOULD BE AROUND ONE TEN ONE 11,000. 
          NOW THESE OPERATING COSTS I'M GIVING YOU, THESE ARE FIRST YEAR, SO THEY INCLUDE THE SALARIES, BENEFITS PLUS COMPUTERS, UNIFORMS, ANYTHING ELSE THAT WOULD GO ALONG WITH THAT. 
          SO THAT'S A, UH, FOR YOUR FIRST YEAR OPERATING COST. 
          BATTALION TWOS. 
          SO BATTALION 
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ONE IS OUR EMS SHIFT. 
          UH, I'M SORRY, MY SHIFT BATTALION CHIEF, WHICH IS THE COMMANDER ON DUTY, WE HAVE ONE. 
          UM, WE'RE GETTING MORE AND MORE MULTIPLE CALLS TO WHERE THESE PEOPLE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR. 
          AND THE ASSISTANT CHIEFS AND I ARE THE ONES THAT ARE TAKING THOSE. 
          BUT ALSO THERE'S A POINT OF THE TOWN UP NORTH THAT THAT'S IN THIS REPORT THAT REALLY TALKS ABOUT, UM, RESPONSE TIMES OF A COMMANDER. 
          BUT TO PUT A ADDITIONAL BATTALION CHIEF IN SERVICE HIGHER IN FISCAL YEAR 28, PLACE IT IN SERVICE IN 28, EARLY 29, UH, CAPITAL COST WOULD BE 135. 
          THAT'S FOR THE VEHICLE AND THE EQUIPMENT ON THE VEHICLE. 
          AND AN OPERATING COST WOULD BE 511,000 PER YEAR FOR THREE BATTALION CHIEFS FIRE INSPECTOR FOR COMMUNITY RISK REDUCTION. 
          THIS IS ADDING A FIRE INSPECTOR TO THE MIG FOR, UH, HELPING WITH, WITH EVERYTHING IN THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE TIMELINE. 
          HIRE THE INSPECTOR IN 28. 
          CAPITAL COST WOULD BE AROUND 108, UH, SORRY, 80,000. 
          THAT WOULD BE MAINLY FOR A VEHICLE AND PERSONAL EQUIPMENT OPERATING COST. 
          1 32 FIRST YEAR, THE BIG ONE, EXPAND TO SEVEN FIRE STATIONS. 
          TIMELINE WE WOULD NEED TO PROCURE THE LAND. 
          AND, UH, SOMETIME BETWEEN NOW AND 26, UM, WE WOULD REQUEST IN THE 31 BOND ELECTION ORDER, THE ENGINE, UH, FOR STATION SEVEN IN FY 31, HIRED AND TRAINED THE PERSONNEL FISCAL YEAR 32. 
          AND THAT WOULD EXTEND AT THE 35, THAT'D BE 21 PERSONNEL START THE CONSTRUCTION HOPEFULLY IN FISCAL YEAR 33 PROMOTIONS FOR THREE DRIVERS AND THREE CAPTAINS IN FY 35 AND OPEN STATION SEVEN. 
          SOMETIME IN FY 35. 
          CAPITAL COSTS WE'RE LOOKING AT AROUND 25 MILLION AND OPERATING COSTS WOULD BE 3.7 MILLION PER YEAR. 
          ALSO ON THE STATION SEVEN PERSONNEL AND TRUCK PERSONNEL FOR THAT. 
          WHEN WE GET TO THAT, WE WOULD ADD, WE WOULD APPLY FOR A, WHAT'S CALLED A SAFER GRANT. 
          IT'S A FEDERAL GRANT FOR, FOR SUPPLYING FIRE SUPPRESSION PERSONNEL. 
          IF WE'RE AWARDED THAT GRANT, IT PAYS 75% OF THEIR SALARY FOR YEAR ONE, 50%, YEAR TWO, 25%, YEAR THREE. 
          AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE TOTALLY ON YOUR BOOKS IN YEAR FOUR. 
          SO FOR BOTH OF THOSE BIG TICKET ITEMS ON PERSONNEL, WE WOULD APPLY FOR THE FEDERAL GRANTS WE HAVE, WE'D HAVE TO BE PREPARED TO TAKE ON THE FULL BURDEN BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, FEDERAL FUNDS RIGHT NOW ARE, ARE, ARE KIND OF GOING EVERY WHICH WAY. 
          THEN LASTLY, IN 20, I'M SORRY, IN 36, I BELIEVE BY THE TIME WE GET THERE, AMBULANCE 37 WOULD GO FULL-TIME AT STATION SEVEN. 
          THERE'S A HIGH LIKELIHOOD WITH CALL VOLUME, WE WOULD NEED THAT PEAK DEMAND AMBULANCE BACK. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE AMBULANCE 38. 
          UH, IN ORDER TO DO THAT, WE ORDER THE AMBULANCE AND FYI 34, INCREASE THE OVERTIME IN 36, UH, PLACE IT IN SERVICE IN FYI 36 CAPITAL COST BY THEN. 
          IF THE ESCALATION HOLDS, I DON'T THINK IT'LL LET GET THIS HIGH, BUT IF IT HOLDS THE WAY IT IS WOULD BE 860,000 FOR THE AMBULANCE AND EQUIPMENT OPERATING COSTS WOULD BE 520,000 FOR THE ADDITIONAL OVERTIME. 
          SO WITH THAT, THAT'S THE SHEET THAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU. 
          AND SO WHEN WE LOOK AT IT, IT GOES DOWN, IT BREAKS IT DOWN BY YEAR. 
          UM, AND AT THE BOTTOM THAT, UH, YELLOW IS YOUR OPERATIONS COST, RED IS YOUR CAPITAL COST. 
          BLUE IS IS THE TOTAL. 
          AND THOSE DO INCLUDE THE, UH, BOND ELECTION. 
          SO EVEN THOUGH IT'S DEBT FINANCE MULTI-YEAR, IT TOTALS OUT IN THAT ONE YEAR. 
          THAT'S WHY IT'S SUCH A LARGE NUMBER THAT ONE YEAR. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU CHIEF, FOR THE PRESENTATION. 
          UM, I SOMEWHAT EXPECTED THAT YOU WOULD BE ASKING FOR THE STATION A LITTLE BIT SOONER, UM, THAN 10 YEARS FROM NOW. 
          AND SO, UM, I JUST, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU FEEL CONFIDENT THAT, YOU KNOW, 10 YEARS FROM NOW IS WHEN YOU'LL ACTUALLY MEET THIS STATION, GIVEN ALL THE PROJECTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED BY THIS COUNCIL. 
          UM, ARE WE GONNA BE ABLE TO MEET THE NEED IF ALL OF THE, YOU KNOW, TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENTS AND MULTIFAMILY HOUSE, YOU KNOW, MULTIFAMILY HOUSING IS BUILT AND ALL THOSE SORTS OF THINGS, DO WE, YOU KNOW, HAVE ANY CONCERN FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE? IS THIS TOO FAR OUT, I GUESS IS MY QUESTION? IT, IT'S, IT'S ON THE FAR END OF MY COMFORT LEVEL MM-HMM . 
          BUT WHEN WE LOOK AT, UM, LIKE BOND ELECTIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, HOW WOULD WE 
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DO IT? THE TIMELINES TO GET IT ALL THAT IT MAKES SENSE TO PLAN IT. 
          TRUCK THREE WILL HELP ME OUT A LITTLE BIT WITH THAT. 
          UH, IF WE GET IT IN SERVICE BY 30 MM-HMM . 
          THAT'S A BIG ONE. 
          UM, BUT IT IS ON THE FAR END, BUT I'M COMFORTABLE WITH IT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND I GUESS MR. MAGNER, I WOULD, I MEAN, I, I GET THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE GO OUT FOR A BOND ELECTION IN THE NEXT YEAR OR SOMETHING, THAT WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE READY TO BUILD THIS STATION WITHIN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. 
          AND SO I UNDERSTAND WHY IT WOULD BE IN FY 31, BUT YEAH, I, YOU KNOW, QUERY WHETHER THAT THAT'S TOO FAR OUT AND WHETHER THERE'S ANOTHER STRATEGY WE COULD SORT OF EMPLOY HERE. 
          LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, A MIDTERM BOND ELECTION JUST FOR THIS OR SOMETHING TO TRY AND GET THIS ONLINE SOONER, BUT SURE. 
          SO IT'S NOT JUST THE BOND PROGRAM. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UH, ACTUALLY THE MUCH BIGGER CONSIDERATION IS THE OPERATIONS PIECE. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'S THE, THE, THE YEAR THAT IS, UM, FY 32, THAT'S A VERY, VERY STRATEGIC YEAR. 
          THAT'S A HUGE INCREASE IN ONE YEAR FOR OPERATIONS, RIGHT? UM, BUT IT ALSO HAPPENS THAT, UM, OUR TIFF ONE EXPIRES ON DECEMBER 31ST, 2031 MM-HMM . 
          AND SO, UH, WORKING WITH THE CHIEF, UM, AND TRYING TO BACK INTO THREE BIG MILESTONES HERE. 
          ONE IS FY 26, WHICH WOULD, IF YOU DECIDE WHICH WOULD BE, WHICH WOULD LIKELY BE OUR NEXT BOND PROGRAM, CONTINUING ON A FIVE YEAR CYCLE, IF WE DO A FIVE YEAR SERIAL SALE, AGAIN, THAT TAKES US TO FY 31. 
          YOU SEE ANOTHER REALLY LARGE NUMBER THERE. 
          UM, SO WE'VE, WE'VE PENCILED THIS OUT AND TRIED TO BE ORDERLY IN THE WAY THAT WE CAN NOT ONLY, YOU KNOW, WE OFTEN JOKE ABOUT THINGS LIKE REC CENTERS, LIKE WE CAN BUILD A REC CENTER IN BRICK RIDGE, BUT IT WOULD BE REALLY HARD FOR US TO OPERATE IT. 
          YEAH. 
          THIS ALLOWS US TO, UM, TRY TO, UM, BE VERY STRATEGIC IN WHEN WE SELL THE DEBT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING IT IN A WAY, UM, THAT REALLY, YOU KNOW, MINIMIZES THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT, THAT AMOUNT OF TIME THAT IT WOULD SIT ON THE BOOKS, BUT ALSO ALIGNS IT AS HIGHLY AS POSSIBLE WITH THE OPERATIONS CAPACITY THAT WE HAVE. 
          AND SO, YOU KNOW, HAD THE CHIEF SAID TO ME, WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO HAVE THIS ONLINE, BUT FY 29, THIS WOULD LOOK A LOT DIFFERENT. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I'LL, I'LL DEFER BACK TO HIM ON THIS QUESTION. 
          HIM AND HIS, UM, IF HE'S, HE'S TELLING ME THIS IS ON THE OUTER LIMITS, BUT IT'S DOABLE AND IT WORKS AND HE'S COMFORTABLE WITH IT. 
          THIS, THIS PROVIDES A, A, A A A REAL ON-RAMP TO BRING ON NEARLY $4 MILLION IN OPERATING COSTS IN ONE YEAR AS RECALL. 
          NOW THAT'S, THAT'S ABOUT $800,000. 
          THEN WE CAN EXPECT, LIKE IN ANY GIVEN YEAR, WE MAXIMIZE OUR 3.5%, UH, UNDER THE PROPERTY TAX CAP TO ACHIEVE. 
          SO THIS IS A BIG, THAT'S A BIG NUMBER. 
          UM, UM, IT'S, IT'S FORTUITOUS THAT, THAT IT LINES UP WITH THE, THE EXPIRATION OF TIF ONE AT THE END OF 31, THAT WE WOULD HAVE THOSE DOLLARS AVAILABLE TO US THAT, THAT FOLLOWING YEAR. 
          AND SO THAT, YOU KNOW, IT, IT, THERE WERE A LOT OF CONSIDERATIONS. 
          I MEAN, UM, CHIEF THERE'S PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, A DOZEN, THE 15 VARIATIONS OF, OF THIS BEFORE WE ARRIVED HERE. 
          BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, KNOWING, KNOWING, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, HAVING FULL CONFIDENCE AND, AND CHIEF IAN AND WHAT HE'S TELLING ME, UM, HIS NEEDS ARE, AND EXACTLY WHEN I FEEL LIKE THIS IS A GOOD PLAN, YOU KNOW, JUST TWO SECONDS ON THE FUNDING, THE YEAR THAT GIVES ME THE MOST HEARTBURN BY FAR IS FY 28, YOU KNOW, EVERY OTHER YEAR IN THIS. 
          I CAN TELL YOU HOW WE'RE GONNA DO THIS. 
          THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A CURIOSITY TO ME RIGHT NOW. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, BRINGING FIREFIGHTERS ON EARLIER ISN'T REALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, ISN'T REALLY THE ANSWER WHEN WE'RE ACTIVATING A WHOLE, A WHOLE TEAM LIKE THAT TO, TO COME ON. 
          IT REALLY NEEDS TO BE, UH, IN AN ACADEMY FORMAT. 
          OTHERWISE, WE'RE JUST ACTUALLY PAYING TO HAVE FIREFIGHTERS ON, ON SOONER AND NOT REALLY GETTING FULL UTILIZATION OUT OF THEM. 
          BUT, UM, THAT, THAT YEAR IS THE YEAR THAT WE'RE REALLY GONNA HAVE TO, UM, AND WE, WE'VE ALREADY STARTED PLANNING FOR HOW WE'RE GONNA ACTIVATE $2.4 MILLION, UM, IN OPERATING COSTS WHEN WE DON'T HAVE A TIFF ENDING AND, UH, A, A, YOU KNOW, AN INFLUX OF DOLLARS, UH, RETURNING TO THE GENERAL FUND. 
          AND SO THAT, THAT, THAT YEAR CONCERNS ME MUCH MORE THAN ANY OTHER YEAR. 
          YEAH, I MEAN, I, I APPRECIATE THAT EXPLANATION. 
          I WOULD JUST, YOU KNOW, AND I, I HAVE FULL CONFIDENCE CHIEF, THAT YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH MR. MAGNER, YOU DISCUSSED THIS IN DETAIL AND THAT, YOU KNOW, IF NEXT YEAR THIS CHANGES, YOU WOULD FEEL COMFORTABLE TO SAY THAT. 
          I JUST THINK PUBLIC SAFETY, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, AND I THINK MOST OF THE COUNCIL'S PERSPECTIVE IS OF THE UTMOST IMPORTANCE. 
          AND WE DON'T WANNA LOSE OUR ISO ONE. 
          WE WANNA WANNA MAKE SURE THAT OUR RESIDENTS ARE SAFE. 
          SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE YOU TO SORT OF CONTINUOUSLY PUT EYES ON ON THIS AND REEVALUATE WHETHER OR NOT WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO BRING THAT ONLINE EARLIER. 
          I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON, ON TRYING TO OBTAIN GRANTS, UM, TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. 
          I THINK THAT'S A REALLY GREAT WAY TO, TO DO THIS AND, YOU KNOW, CUSHION, UH, POTENTIALLY THE OPERATING COSTS. 
          BUT YEAH, I WAS, I, I GUESS I'M A LITTLE SURPRISED TO SEE IT THAT FAR OUT KNOWING THAT THIS WAS PROBABLY COMING OUR WAY, UM, BUT HAVE FULL CONFIDENCE THAT YOU'VE LOOKED AT IT AND THEN THINK THIS IS A WORKABLE PLAN. 
          BUT, UM, I GUESS FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE HERE. 
          UH, THEN I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY YEARS , THAT'S TOO MUCH MATH 
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RIGHT NOW, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T KNOW. 
          UM, I, AGAIN, I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE YOU TO COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL IF YOU THINK THIS NEEDS TO BE REEVALUATED, YOU KNOW, UH, WHEN YOU DISCUSS IT FURTHER WITH MR. MAGNER. 
          UM, BUT THANK YOU FOR THE PLAN AND FOR ALL THE WORK AND, AND THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY, BUT IT'S REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT, UH, DOLLARS FOR, FOR OUR RESIDENTS, MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHEN MATTER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, COUNCILWOMAN JUSTICE BASICALLY TOOK ALL THE WORDS OUTTA MY MOUTH. 
          UM, 'CAUSE I HAVE THE SAME CONCERN. 
          WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN LOOKING VERY STRONGLY FROM, FROM A HOSPITAL PERSPECTIVE AND LOOKING AT THE STRATEGIC PLAN, AND I, I TENURES JUST FEELS WAY TOO LONG, CHIEF. 
          SO, UM, BUT I HEAR EVERYTHING MR. MAGNER SAYING, I HEAR WHAT YOU'VE SAID. 
          I GUESS THE ONLY, UH, THE COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE IS, IS, YOU KNOW, NUMBER ONE, I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND WHY WE WOULD LOOK TO OVERTIME FOR THE SEVENTH AMBULANCE. 
          UM, I WOULD'VE, I WOULD, I'VE NEVER LOOKED AT YOUR BOOKS. 
          AND SO I'M JUST GONNA MAKE A GUESS HERE FOR A MOMENT. 
          THAT, THAT PROBABLY THERE'S MOST DAYS WHERE SOMEONE'S SICK ON VACATION, WHATEVER THE CASE MIGHT BE. 
          AND SO I WONDER, WOULD WOULD A BETTER STRATEGY BE TO GO AHEAD AND HIRE THE, THE, THE FIREFIGHTERS THAT YOU NEED? SO WE'RE NOT DOING OVERTIME FOR TWO REASONS. 
          NUMBER ONE IS THE COST. 
          I MEAN, IT'S A, IT'S A 150% AS COMPARED TO A HUNDRED PERCENT FOR A SALARY. 
          SECOND THING IS, AS YOU MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT WITH THE NEW 48, 48 9 6 MM-HMM . 
          48 9 6. 
          YES SIR. 
          UM, THE CONCERN ABOUT BURNOUT AND TIREDNESS AND ALL OF THOSE TYPE OF THINGS, UM, IF, IF WE'RE DOING OVERTIME, THEN YOU BRING IN THOSE SAME PEOPLE BACK IN TO WORK ON AN OVERTIME BASIS. 
          SO, UM, I'M SURE YOU PUT THAT IN THERE BECAUSE AGAIN, TRYING TO GO OUT, HIRE PEOPLE, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. 
          BUT I'D ASK IF, IF WE COULD TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THAT AND THEN MAYBE, MAYBE THE MITIGATION IS, IS IF THERE'S ANY WAY THAT WE COULD BRING ON TRUCK THREE SOONER AND MAKE AMBULANCE SEVEN, SEVEN FULL-TIME SOONER BEFORE WE'RE ABLE TO GET STATION SEVEN ON BOARD, THAT MAY TAKE OFF MORE PRESSURE OFF OF YOUR DEPARTMENT. 
          UM, I THINK YOU COULD PROBABLY, I THINK PROBABLY BETWEEN STATION ONE AND STATION THREE, YOU COULD PROBABLY, IF YOU, IF YOU HOUSE THE, UH, STA UH, MAYBE ON SEVEN, MAYBE AT STATION ONE, THAT WOULD HELP. 
          BECAUSE IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, WHEN I'VE LOOKED AT THE STATISTICS OVER THE YEARS, STATION, ONE STILL HAS THE MOST EMS VOLUME, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. 
          IT DOES. 
          SO IF YOU, IF YOU WENT FULL TIME WITH A SECOND AMBULANCE AND STATION ONE GOT TRUCK THREE ON BOARD BEFORE THESE 10 YEARS IS OVER, TO ME, THAT MIGHT BE A, A, A MID, UM, IT MIGHT BE A WAY TO, TO MITIGATE THAT 10 YEARS. 
          'CAUSE I, I, I GOTTA AGREE 100%. 
          I THINK IT'S JUST TOO LONG. 
          AND, AND, AND SO I, I REALLY, I REALLY THINK WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU NEED OUR HELP, IF WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, IF WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT FROM A FINANCIAL STANDPOINT, WHATEVER THE CASE MIGHT BE, I THINK YOU'VE AT LEAST HEARD TWO OF US. 
          AND I THINK CURTIS IS SITTING HERE, OR COUNCIL, SORRY, COUNCIL MEMBER DORIAN SITTING NEXT TO ME AGREEING AS WELL. 
          SO YOU GOT THREE AT LEAST WHO ARE ALL SAYING, WE THINK THE 10 YEARS IS TOO FAR. 
          SO I RECOGNIZE THE, THE BUILDING ITSELF IS THE BIG, YOU KNOW, THE BIG, UH, BIG EXPENSIVE COMPONENT OF WHAT YOU'VE GOT UP HERE. 
          BUT MAYBE BY MY WORDS, SPEEDING UP THE AMBULANCE, SPEEDING UP TRUCK THREE, IF POSSIBLE, YOU COULD AT LEAST GET, IN ESSENCE THE, THE, UH, UH, A BIG COMPONENT OF WHAT WOULD BE, UM, FROM A, FROM A, UM, APPARATUS AND, AND FIREFIGHTER, UH, PERSPECTIVE WHEN, WHEN STATION SEVEN WOULD, WOULD GO, GO LIVE. 
          SO I, I THROW THAT OUT THERE. 
          JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW LOTS OF SUPPORT COMING YOUR WAY TO DO SOMETHING FASTER THAN 10 YEARS. 
          LEMME JUST PUT IT THAT WAY. 
          AND AGAIN, I'M NOT TELLING YOU WHAT TO DO. 
          PLEASE DON'T TAKE IT THAT WAY. 
          NO, IT'S NOT. 
          I JUST THINK YOU'RE HEARING US SAY THIS IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT AND, AND BASED ON WHAT I'M SEEING, YOU KNOW, UNLESS SOMETHING GOES COMPLETELY OFF THE CLIFF OVER THE NEXT YEAR TO 18 MONTHS, UM, I THINK WE'RE JUST GONNA CONTINUE TO HAVE A LOT OF GROWTH IN THE CITY AND, UH, BASED ON WHAT WE'VE ALREADY PLANNED AND WHAT WE WE PLANNED TO DO. 
          AND SO I, I JUST WORRY A LOT ABOUT THAT 10 YEARS. 
          THANKS. 
          UNDERSTOOD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          CHIEF VY. 
          DID, DID YOU WANNA SAY ANYTHING OR ARE YOU, YOU GOOD ON THAT? NO, I, I APPRECIATE ALL OF THAT. 
          IT'S GREAT. 
          UH, GREAT FEEDBACK. 
          UM, SOME OF THIS IS ALSO DRIVEN BY THE TIMELINES THAT WE WOULD DO LIKE TRUCK, TRUCK THREE TO GET THAT VEHICLE WILL TAKE. 
          WE NEED TO ORDER IT SOMETIME BETWEEN NOW AND OCTOBER, AND IT WILL TAKE UNTIL 29 TO GET IT. 
          NOW I CAN PUT A RESERVE IN AS LONG AS I HAVE IT THAT DAY, BUT THEN IT TAKES TWO FULL YEARS TO HIRE AND TRAIN THE PERSONNEL TO THE LEVEL THAT WE NEED TO SAY, OKAY, WE'RE GONNA PUT ANOTHER UNIT IN SERVICE. 
          SO EVERYONE TO REPLACE THOSE FOLKS HAVE TO BE A HUNDRED PERCENT. 
          SO IT JUST, IT, WE HAVE THOSE TIMELINES WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH. 
          AND CERTAINLY IT'S NOT 10 YEARS. 
          UM, AND I CAN PLAN A FIRE STATION IN FIVE YEARS. 
          UH, WE'RE GONNA 
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HAVE TO GET BUSY TOMORROW, , BUT IT CAN BE DONE. 
          UM, BUT WE'RE TRY REALLY TRYING TO, TO MARCH THIS OUT, UM, PHYSICAL WISE. 
          UM, AND THEN, LIKE I SAID, UH, DOING A FIRE STATION ITSELF THAT TAKES SEVERAL YEARS PLUS TWO YEARS TO HIRE AND TRAIN THE PERSONNEL. 
          THREE YEARS, THREE CHIEF YOUNG, WHAT, THREE AND A HALF, FOUR YEARS TO GET AN ENGINE, 18 MONTHS TO GET AN AMBULANCE. 
          SO WE HAVE TO, WHEN WE SET A TIME, SAY, OKAY, THIS IS OUR GOAL. 
          WE HAVE TO WORK BACKWARDS TO ALL OF THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO DEFINITELY WE'LL LOOK AT, LOOK AT ALL POSSIBILITIES. 
          YEAH, YOU, I MEAN IN MY, I I THOUGHT, I REALLY SERIOUSLY THOUGHT WE'D BE SOMEWHERE IN THE FIVE TO SEVEN RANGE OF, OF, YOU KNOW, REC RECOGNIZING THAT I KNOW YOU HAVE TO ORDER AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT I WAS, I WAS REALLY THINKING WE WERE GONNA BE MUCH MORE IN THAT RANGE. 
          SO AGAIN, YOU, IT, IT MAY BE A LITTLE BIT OF A HATE TO USE THE WORD BANDAID APPROACH WHEN WE'RE TALKING EMS SORRY, NO PUN THERE INTENDED. 
          BUT IF, IF YOU COULD LOOK AT IT AND IF THERE'S SOME THINGS WE CAN DO, AND AGAIN, RECOGNIZING THE BUDGET, NOT TRYING TO, TO, TO SAY ANYTHING FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE. 
          BUT EVEN IF, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT IS BRING ON A RESERVE APPARATUS, MAYBE IT'S BRING ON IF WE COULD GET THE ENGINE COMPANY IN SOONER, UM, AND, AND GO IN THAT DIRECTION WHILE WE'VE ORDERED THE TRUCK, IF WE GOT, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T KNOW, AGAIN, IT IT'S Y'ALL TO KIND OF FIGURE OUT, JUST KNOW THAT YOU GOT A LOT OF SUPPORT TO SAY, COULD WE DO SOMETHING FASTER THAN 10 YEARS? 'CAUSE THAT, THAT REALLY CONCERNS ME. 
          I'M AFRAID WE'RE GONNA BE BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL AND I DON'T WANNA GET BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL WHEN IT COMES TO ALL THINGS FIRE EMS AND POLICE. 
          FOR SURE. 
          I AGREE. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER BARRIOS. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UH, CHIEF, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AS USUAL. 
          SO AS EYE OPENING, I HAD A CHANCE THIS WEEKEND TO REVIEW THE FIRE MASTER PLAN THAT WAS IN OUR PACKET. 
          OBVIOUSLY WE HAD SEEN THAT BEFORE, BUT I'LL SAY FIRE SERVICES HAS BEEN ONE OF THE MORE EYE-OPENING PIECES OF BEING ON THE COUNCIL. 
          THE, THE AMOUNT OF WORK Y'ALL DO, AND I MEAN, PEOPLE THINK FIRE TRUCKS AND FIRES AND YES. 
          THAT, THAT IS A PART OF WHAT YOU DO, BUT THERE'S SO MUCH MORE AND SO, SO MANY TECHNICAL PIECES TO WHAT YOU DO. 
          SO I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS HERE, AND ALSO THANK YOU, DON, FOR EXPLAINING THE, THE FINANCIAL PIECE, HOW THAT WAS LAID OUT AND WHAT THE THOUGHT BEHIND THAT WAS. 
          UM, A COUPLE SMALL QUICK QUESTIONS, AND THEN I'LL GET INTO THE BIGGER ONE. 
          UH, THE, REMIND ME, WHAT'S THE APPLICATIONS MANAGER? THAT IS THE, UH, PERSON THAT WOULD BE IN THE ADMINISTRATIVE SECTION. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT WOULD HANDLE THE REPORTING SOFTWARES, THE SECURITY SYSTEMS, THE, ALL THOSE COMPUTER, LARGE COMPUTER APPLICATIONS OKAY. 
          THAT REQUIRE MONITORING AND WORK ON EVERY DAY. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THE, THE, UH, LAND PROCUREMENT, UH, THAT BUDGET THAT WOULD BE IN THE BUDGET WE'RE ABOUT TO APPROVE, THAT'S GONNA BE THE PIECE INTO THE 26 BUDGET. 
          SO UP TO YOU. 
          I MEAN, THAT'S NOT ALREADY SET ASIDE, CORRECT? NO, NO. 
          THE, THE, THE STATION SEVEN PROCUREMENT PIECE. 
          SO THAT, SO NEXT WEEK WHEN WE PRESENT THE DEBT PLAN, THE PROPOSED DEBT PLAN TO YOU, YOU'LL SEE A LINE ITEM THAT HAS, UM, ESSENTIALLY A, A PLACEHOLDER RIGHT NOW FOR UP TO $3 MILLION. 
          UM, THAT, THAT, UM, AGAIN, WE WON'T HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION ON THAT UNTIL APRIL WHEN, WHEN WE GO TO SALE. 
          OH, GOT IT. 
          UM, WE, WE'RE, WE'RE  WE'RE, UH, PURPOSELY BEING VERY VAGUE AND DISCREET ON THE, UH, LAND PIECE RIGHT NOW JUST TO UH, SURE. 
          NOT LOSE ANY COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE. 
          YES. 
           GOT IT. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, CHIEF, HELP ME UNDERSTAND, BECAUSE I HEARD MY, UH, UH, MY COLLEAGUES HERE TALKING ABOUT A SHORTENED TIMELINE. 
          AND TO BE HONEST, THAT WAS, I SAW THE TIMELINE, TO ME IT MADE SENSE, ESPECIALLY AFTER DON, UM, KIND OF MENTIONED THE MONEY PIECE AND WHERE THE MONEY COMES FROM. 
          BUT WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT A SEVENTH FIRE STATION, IF YOU KNOW, KIND OF GENERALLY SPEAKING, ARE YOU LOOKING AT THAT, AT THE DEMAND INCREASE FROM KIND OF THE COMMERCIAL SIDE OF THE BUSINESS? ARE WE LOOKING AT AS, I THINK COUNCILMAN JUSTICE MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE A LOT OF MULTI-FAMILIES COMING ON BOARD AND THAT THIS, AND PREVIOUS COUNCILS HAVE APPROVED. 
          AND YOU KNOW, THE REALITY IS ECONOMICS HAVEN'T MADE SENSE FOR SOME OF THESE DEVELOPERS TO GO THROUGH WITH THEIR PLANS, BUT AT SOME POINT, HOPEFULLY IT WILL AND THEY'LL START POPPING UP. 
          UM, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AND PLANNING OUT THE DEMAND, IS IT BECAUSE OF THE COMMERCIAL STUFF HAPPENING AND A LOT OF THOSE KIND OF WAREHOUSE? OR IS IT THE MULTI-FAMILY THAT IS KIND OF DRIVING MORE OF THAT DEMAND? OR DO YOU LOOK AT IT LIKE THAT? LIKE THE RATIO? IT YES, AND IT'S ALL GROWING. 
          SO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT FROM, UM, CONSTRUCTION STANDPOINT ON WHAT ARE THE BUILDINGS, YOU KNOW, MADE OF THINGS LIKE THAT FOR THE FIRE SUPPRESSION SIDE, UH, THE COMMERCIAL SIDE, WHAT IS INSIDE THESE BUILDINGS, ALL THAT. 
          AND THEN THE EMS SIDE AS FAR AS CALL VOLUME AS WELL, AND WHEN WE START LOOKING AT ALL THIS AND THE, THE CONSULTANTS NAILED DOWN 
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IS, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE'S AREAS OF OUR TOWN THAT ARE AGING. 
          THERE IS, UM, GROWTH AND DENSITY THAT'S COMING IN. 
          MORE PEOPLE EQUALS MORE EMS CALLS, UH, EQUALS MORE TRAFFIC EQUALS MORE TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS. 
          UM, AND THEN YOUR BUSINESSES COMING TO TOWN, WHAT DO THEY HAVE IN THESE BUSINESSES? WHAT TYPE OF HAZARDOUS MATERIALS ARE BEING BROUGHT IN? ALL OF THAT. 
          SO IT'S REALLY A COMBINATION OF EVERYTHING BECAUSE AS A NON-EXPERT IN FIRE SERVICES, ALTHOUGH I PROBABLY WE BE ON THE COUNCIL PROBABLY KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THE AVERAGE PERSON WATCHING WHEN IT COMES TO JUST BECAUSE OF WHAT WE'VE LEARNED FROM YOU ALL. 
          UM, I WOULD ASSUME THAT THE MULTI-FAMILY PROBABLY DRAW, I GUESS I, I WOULD THINK COMMERCIAL SIDE IS MORE ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE, YOU KNOW, DEALING A LOT WITH CHIEF CASKEY AND KIND OF THAT PRE-PLANNING STUFF AND THE CHECKS AND THAT KIND OF STUFF. 
          BUT IT'S THE DAY-TO-DAY WHAT KEEPS YOU BUSY IS PROBABLY THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE. 
          'CAUSE THE WAY I'M THINK, I'M, I'M TRYING TO THINK OF THE TIMELINE THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT. 
          AND YOU KNOW, IT'S GONNA BE ANOTHER FOUR TO SIX YEARS BEFORE SOME OF THESE MULTI-FAMILY PROJECTS COME ON BOARD. 
          AND I THINK THIS TIMELINE DOES SEEM ACCURATE. 
          DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? YEAH. 
          VERSUS IF IT WERE DRAWN, IF IT WERE DRIVEN BY THE COMMERCIAL SIDE, WILL COMMERCIAL TENDS TO COME ONLINE FASTER THAN RESIDENTIAL DOES? I DON'T KNOW. 
          I'M JUST KIND OF THINKING OUT LOUD. 
          WHAT'S THAT? THE PROBLEM IS WE NEED IT TODAY. 
          THAT'S WHY WE'RE HAVING TO BUY A NEW TRUCK AND A NEW AMBULANCE. 
          AND THAT'S THE ISSUE. 
          ARE WE BEHIND TODAY ON THAT? I MEAN, ARE WE CURRENTLY NOT BEING CURRENT COMMERCIAL? SO THE WAY, THE WAY I'VE BEEN DESCRIBING IS RIGHT NOW OUR HEADS ARE ABOVE WATER. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT THE WATER'S RISING PRETTY RAPIDLY AND THAT WATER LEVEL IS WHERE I PUT THIS, THIS PLAN TOGETHER. 
          AND LIKE I SAID, I MEAN, IT STRETCHES IT OUT TO THE END. 
          UM, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT, YOU KNOW, ONE ECONOMIC DOWNTURN CHANGES EVERYTHING. 
          A BIG UPTURN CHANGES EVERYTHING. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO WATCH IT. 
          UM, THE, IT MAY, IF WE HAVE ANOTHER CO TYPE INCIDENT WHERE OUR CALL VOLUME DROPPED DRASTICALLY DURING THAT TYPE OF TYPE OF SITUATION, IT TOOK TWO YEARS, ABOUT TWO YEARS TO COME BACK. 
          BUT NOW IT'S, YOU KNOW, WELL OVER EVERYTHING. 
          UH, SO WE JUST HAVE TO WATCH THAT. 
          AND, UM, THE, WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ON THE ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE, THINGS, NOT INCLUDING EMERGENCY INCIDENTS. 
          WE STAY BUSY WITH ALL OF THE PLANNING WITH THE FIRE DEPAR OR FIRE MARSHAL SIDE OF THINGS. 
          UH, PLAN REVIEW INSPECTIONS, PERMITS, PERMIT INSPECTIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          THAT'S ALL GROWING AS WELL. 
          SO HENCE THE, UH, ADDITION OF THE FIRE INSPECTOR. 
          THANK YOU, CHIEF FOR YOUR TIME. 
          THANK THE ANSWERS. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER CORCORAN. 
          OH, THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. 
          UM, YEAH, I MEAN, I, I GUESS I'M HEARING ALL THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE, THE FIRE STATION, THE NEW FIRE STATION, THE NEED FOR IT SOONER, AND IT'S NOT, NOT SOMETHING THAT I'M PARTICULARLY KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT, BUT IT, IT DOES SOUND LIKE SOMETHING WHERE IF THERE'S ANY WAY COSTS COULD BE SHIPPED AROUND, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW. 
          I WOULD SUPPORT MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS, I GUESS, UNDERSTANDING OF A NEED FOR THAT. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, I, I'M NOT, I DON'T KNOW, IT'S JUST VERY, IT IS A VERY AMBITIOUS PLAN. 
          I MEAN, DON, CAN YOU CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG? IS THERE ANY OTHER DEPARTMENT THAT WE HAVE THAT IS GROWING LIKE THIS IN THE FUTURE? I MEAN, THIS IS A LOT OF HEADCOUNT BEING ADDED. 
          UM, I, NOT FROM A HEADCOUNT STANDPOINT. 
          I MEAN, WE HAVE OTHER MASTER PLANS THAT ACTUALLY HAVE BIGGER PRICE TAGS OKAY. 
          ASSOCIATED WITH THEM THAN THIS PRICE TAG. 
          UM, NOW A LOT OF THOSE ARE CAPITAL HEAVY AND CAPITAL INTENSE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          WHICH YOU DON'T SEE ON HERE IS, UH, THE RECURRING, UM, AND COMPOUNDING NATURE OF THESE, UH, COSTS. 
          SO RIGHT. 
          YOU LOOK AT THE, YOU KNOW, YOU LOOK AT THE $3 MILLION OPERATING COST IN 28 AND THE $3.8 MILLION OPERATING COST IN 32, THOSE ARE GONNA BE COMPOUNDING MM-HMM . 
          AND SO, YOU KNOW, YEAR OVER YEAR. 
          UM, UM, AND, AND SO, UM, UH, COUNCILMAN CORCORAN, UM, FROM A HEADCOUNT STANDPOINT, NO, NO DEPARTMENT, UM MM-HMM . 
          IS, IS EVEN, IS EVEN CLOSE IN, IN REGARDS TO THE NUMBER OF NEW POSITIONS THAT WE'RE CONTEMPLATING. 
          BUT FROM A CAPITAL STANDPOINT, DEFINITELY MM-HMM . 
          THERE ARE SIMILARITIES IN OTHER PLANS. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH, IT MAKES SENSE. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, GOSH, I MUST BE TIRED. 
          I HAD A FOLLOW UP QUESTION TO THAT. 
          SOMETHING YOU JUST MENTIONED ON, I FORGOT IT, BUT AS FAR AS, I MEAN, NOT TO, SO NOT TO, OH, SO MY, MY FOLLOW QUESTION WAS, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT I AM CURIOUS ABOUT IS, YOU KNOW, I THINK AT VARIOUS TIMES LATELY WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SORT OF NEWER STRUCTURES, RIGHT? MAYOR HAS MENTIONED MULTIPLE TIMES, YOU KNOW, HIGHER PRICE APARTMENTS OR THINGS, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          I MEAN, ARE THERE ANY, IS THERE ANYTHING, I GUESS DOES THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE HAVE PROPOSED HERE 
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ADDRESS ANY SORT OF DIFFERENT BUILDING TYPE ON THE HORIZON THAT, UH, THAT WE DON'T HAVE TODAY IN THE CITY THAT WE MAYBE ANTICIPATE WOULD HAVING? NOT THAT WE DON'T HAVE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO TRUCK THREE IS ANOTHER VEHICLE, LIKE TRUCK FOUR. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THAT, THAT'S DOWN HERE. 
          UH, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A NEW TRUCK, FOUR ON ORDER. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, IT SHOULD BE IN THIS TIME NEXT YEAR. 
          UM, SO THAT IS A HUNDRED FOOT AERIAL APPARATUS. 
          WE HAVE MULTIPLE 75 FOOT APPARATUS. 
          UM, BUT THAT DOES MEAN STRAIGHT UP. 
          SO THEY'RE 75 FOOT LONG, BUT THEY HAVE TO REACH SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, 40 FEET WAY OVER THERE, . 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO IT'S, IT'S, YOU GOTTA PLAY ANGLES. 
          RIGHT. 
          I GOTCHA. 
          UH, SO THAT TRUCK IS A HUNDRED FOOT AERIAL. 
          MM-HMM. 
          IT'S LONGER, IT'S BIGGER. 
          IT'LL REACH UP. 
          WE HAVE OVER 900, SOMEWHERE AROUND 950, 980. 
          DEPENDS ON WHO, UM, BUILDINGS IN THIS TOWN THAT ARE OVER 35 FEET. 
          MM-HMM . 
          WELL, OUR LONGEST GROUND LADDER THAT WE HAVE ON THOSE TRUCKS IS 35 FEET. 
          OKAY. 
          SO YOU CAN'T GO UP ONTO A 35 FOOT BUILDING WITH A 35 FOOT LADDER BECAUSE OF ANGLES AND YOU, YOU'VE SPIN UP ON A LADDER. 
          RIGHT. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, SO THAT APPARATUS, THAT ONE APPARATUS ADDS ANOTHER A HUNDRED FOOT AERIAL ON THE OTHER SIDE OF TOWN. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT WOULDN'T BE ONE PIECE OF WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. 
          YEAH, THAT WOULD BE ONE PIECE FOR SURE. 
          THE OTHER ONES ARE, LIKE, WE HAVE, THEY'RE ENGINES AND AMBULANCES. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK PUMPERS. 
          AND, AND AMBULANCE. 
          SO THE LAST POINT I WANTED TO MAKE HAD TO DO WITH THE, UM, COMMUNITY RISK REDUCTION COORDINATOR. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU, YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU HAD, ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS WAS TO WATCH THE ADMINISTRATION SET SIDE OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND KEEP AN EYE ON IT, AND YOU SAID, HEY, WE HAVE AN ADMIN POSITION FROZEN. 
          WE'RE KIND OF KEEPING OUR HEADS ABOVE WATER. 
          NOW WE'RE DOING FINE. 
          BUT JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY, I MEAN, IT IS THAT DIFFERENT THAN A COMMUNITY RISK REDUCTION COORDINATOR? DOES THAT ROLE SORT OF FALL INTO THE ADMIN SIDE? I MEAN, ARE YOU, ARE YOU ADDRESSING BY HIRING THAT INDIVIDUAL, WOULDN'T YOU BE ADDRESSING SOME OF THE MASTER PLAN SUGGESTIONS THAT THE CONSULTANTS CAME BACK WITH? SO, YES. 
          SO THE, THE COMMUNITY RISK REDUCTION, UM, APPLICATION SPECIALIST IS A, A PERSON DEDICATED TO THAT ONE POSITION. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THAT, THAT ONE DEAL OF, OF MANAGING THOSE, ALL THOSE SOFTWARES. 
          OH, UH, I'M, I'M SORRY, CHIEF, I MEAN, THE INDIVIDUAL TASKED WITH SORT OF LIKE GOING OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AND EDUCATING PEOPLE. 
          GOTCHA. 
          THAT, OKAY. 
          THE, THE, UH, UH, EDUCATION COORDINATOR, SIR, OUTREACH COORDINATOR. 
          YES, SIR. 
          YEAH. 
          THE OUTREACH COORDINATOR IS, UM, THE PERSON TO GO OUT, LIKE I SAID, AND TEACH, TEACH. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UH, HELP WITH CPR, HELP WITH EXTINGUISHERS EXCEPT HELP WITH STOP, DROP AND ROLL RUNNING FIRE ALARMS AT, AT SCHOOLS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THE, WERE YOU ASKING ABOUT THE ADMINISTRATIVE PERSONNEL? RIGHT. 
          SO AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE PRESENTATION, YOU MENTIONED THAT ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU'RE KIND OF HOLDING OFF ON IS TO KEEP AN EYE ON AND OR INCREASE THE NUMBER OF ADMINISTRATIVE PERSONNEL WITHIN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. 
          THAT'S ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANCE, UH, SPECIFICALLY ADMIN ASSISTANCE. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YES, SIR. 
          THAT HELPS. 
          SORRY ABOUT THE CONFUS. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          NO, THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY HELPFUL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YES, SIR. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER SAMSON. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. 
          AND THANK YOU CHIEF FOR COMING AND EXPLAINING ALL THIS. 
          UH, I THINK THIS IS DEFINITELY THE CRITICAL TIMING TO COME UP WITH, UH, THIS KIND OF PLAN, UH, BUT ALSO HELP ME UNDERSTAND FEW THINGS. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH IT LOOKS LIKE 10 YEARS AND BASED ON YOUR CHART, WE ARE NOT REALLY STARTING THINGS OR THINGS WILL NOT BE COMPLETED ONLY AFTER 10 YEARS, MANY THINGS IS GONNA BE DONE WAY BEFORE THAT. 
          YOU KNOW, LIKE 2026, WE START EVERYTHING. 
          2027, YOU'RE GONNA SEE SOME IMPROVEMENT, CONDITION IMPROVEMENT. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND I MEAN, IS THAT'S WHAT I'M MY, AM I UNDERSTANDING SOMETHING RIGHT OR WRONG? SO THE 27, I'M, I'M SORRY. 
          COULDN'T HEAR YOU. 
          YOU, YOU'LL BE SEEING SOME MORE ADDITIONAL STAFFS, UH, ADDITIONAL APPARATUS MAYBE. 
          YEAH. 
          IN 27, THE CHIEF, THE PLAN, THE PLAN IS INCREMENTAL IN NATURE. 
          EVERY, EVERY YEAR THERE ARE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES THAT ARE BEING BROUGHT ON THAT ARE, ARE GOING TO, UH, HELP YOU ADDRESS NEEDS THAT AREN'T ADDRESSED TODAY. 
          I THINK, UH, COUNCILMAN, UH, CHAEL, YOUR, YOUR POINT BEING THAT IT'S NOT, WE WAIT 10 YEARS AND NOTHING IMPROVES EVERY SINGLE YEAR. 
          YEAH. 
          DIFFERENT THINGS ARE BEING ADDRESSED AND DIFFERENT THINGS ARE BEING IMPROVED. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO IN 26, IF YOU NOTICE WHAT'S REALLY HAPPENING IN 26, THAT'S MAINLY ORDERING APPARATUS AND WORKING WITH THE, THE, UH, UH, BOND PROGRAM. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, JUST KNOWING WHAT NEXT, NEXT YEAR LIES. 
          WE DIDN'T, WE'VE ACTUALLY, A LOT OF THE THINGS IN 27 WERE LAID OUT IN 26, BUT WITH WHAT WE KNOW IS COMING IN 26, WE, WE MOVED OVER. 
          UM, BUT IN 27, LIKE THE APPLICATIONS MANAGER, THAT COULD HAPPEN QUICKLY. 
          THE M MS CAPTAINS COULD HAPPEN, COULD HAPPEN QUICKLY, GET THEM IN SERVICE. 
          UM, THE COMMUNITY RISK REDUCTION, THE ORDERING OF A BATTALION 
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VEHICLE, THE BATTALION OFFICERS WOULDN'T HAPPEN UNTIL 28, BUT THEY WOULD BE HAPPENING IN 28. 
          IN 30, A TRUCK WOULD BE COMING IN. 
          SO THAT'S, UM, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER CORKIN ON THE STAFFING MM-HMM . 
          UM, TALKING ABOUT, UH, THE NUMBERS OF PERSONNEL FOR THAT ONE TRUCK. 
          THAT'S FOUR PEOPLE, A CAPTAIN, A DRIVER, AND TWO FIREFIGHTERS. 
          THAT'S FOUR PEOPLE, 24 7. 
          SO WHEN WE START LOOKING AT STAFF STAFFING NUMBERS, SO THERE, THERE'S 12 PEOPLE JUST TO RIDE THAT ONE VEHICLE 24 7, AND THEN ONE PER SHIFT TO HELP BACKFILL THE SHIFT. 
          'CAUSE WE'RE ADDING SO MANY PEOPLE. 
          UM, SO YES, IT WOULD BE INCREMENTAL THINGS WOULD BE HAPPENING THROUGH THE YEARS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, SO IF YOU ARE MANAGING THIS THING NOW PRETTY WELL, AND WE STILL HAVE THAT ISO ONE, RIGHT? YES, SIR. 
          AND I THINK NOBODY WANTS TO LOSE THAT. 
          THAT'S THE FOCUS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANNA LOSE THAT NOW, YOU KNOW, THE WAY CONSTRUCTION'S GOING ON, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PROJECTION FROM NOW AND, UH, THE 25 YEARS, UH, 2050, THE PROJECTION IS ABOUT 150,000 FOR DUCTION. 
          SO WE ARE TALKING ABOUT 25,000 IN INCREASE NEXT 25 YEARS. 
          IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN NEXT YEAR. 
          IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN ANOTHER FIVE YEARS. 
          IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN SLOWLY. 
          AND THE WAY I SEE THE CONSTRUCTION GOING ON RATES ARE VERY HIGH. 
          UNTIL WE SEE SOME GO DOWN, WE'RE NOT GONNA SEE THOSE THING GOING START, YOU KNOW, HAPPEN THOSE CON CONSTRUCTION, EVEN THOUGH WE APPROVED FEW CONSTRUCTION, BUT PROJECTS. 
          BUT I DON'T SEE THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN. 
          EVEN IF THEY START TOMORROW, IT'S GONNA TAKE ANOTHER THREE, FOUR YEARS TO BE COMPLETED SOME OF THE PROJECTS. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT, I THINK IF WE KEEP OUR EYE ON HOW THE GROWTH'S GOING ON AND FOCUS ON OUR ISO ISO ONE REQUIREMENT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE DO HAVE SOME BACKUP PLAN THAT HOW WE CAN MAINTAIN THIS THING WITH THE GROWTH THAT WE HAVE, I THINK WE WILL BE FINE. 
          BUT AGAIN, ALL THE TIMELINES ARE VERY CRITICAL THAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW VERY CAREFULLY. 
          I THINK. 
          UH, AND I FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH YOUR, YOU KNOW, FOCUS THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING. 
          I THINK WE SHOULD BE GOOD. 
          I'M VERY OPTIMISTIC. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER CORCORAN, DID YOU HAVE ANOTHER COMMENT? I JUST WANNA FOLLOW UP TO SOMETHING CHIEF SAID. 
          CHIEF, I JUST WANTED TO, TO CLARIFY. 
          I MEAN, I RECOGNIZE THAT IT'S A A 10 YEAR PLAN, AND SO, YOU KNOW, MY COMMENTS ABOUT PERSONNEL AND GROWTH ARE NOT INTENDED TO BE CRITICAL AT ALL. 
          NO. 
          I MEAN, ANYONE WHO READS THE REPORT AND SEES THE NUMBERS KNOWS THAT WE NEED MORE PERSONNEL, ESPECIALLY OVER 10 YEARS AS THINGS GROW. 
          UH, CHIEF, JUST A FEW CLARIFYING QUESTIONS. 
          UM, SO I'LL START OFF WITH, UH, THIS TALK OF THE LADDER SIZES AND THAT SORT OF THING. 
          A HUNDRED FOOT GETS YOU TO WHAT SIZE BUILDING OR TO THE TOP OF WHAT SIZE BUILDING REALLY? WHAT ABOUT SEVEN SEVENTH BUILDING? YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          DEPENDS ON HOW CLOSE WE CAN GET TO THE BUILDING. 
          I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE SAYING OVER SEVEN. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO TODAY WE, DO WE, HOW MANY BUILDINGS DO WE HAVE THAT ARE IN THAT SIZE RANGE? OR DO WE HAVE ANY THAT ARE OUT OF BOUNDS? AND HOW DO YOU HANDLE THAT? WE ABSOLUTELY, JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY, WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE ONES OUT OF BOUNDS. 
          WE HAVE HIGH RISES, WHICH ARE OVER 75 FEET. 
          YEP. 
          YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT A AERIAL, WELL, THERE IS, THERE'S ONE THAT'LL GO HIGHER THAN OURS, BUT IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FOR US. 
          UM, WHEN YOU HAVE A BUILDING THAT BIG, YOU DO EVERYTHING FROM THE INSIDE. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT THOSE BUILDINGS HAVE STAIRWELLS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 
          SO WE, WE FIGHT HIGH RISE FIRES, TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN WE WOULD SAY, A TALL APARTMENT COMPLEX. 
          PERFECT. 
          WHERE WE'D BE USING AERIALS. 
          AND, AND THE DIFFERENCE ALSO IS A LOT OF THE APARTMENT COMPLEXES, AT LEAST THE ONES WE'VE HAD BUILT, UH, AND THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED SO FAR, ARE MOSTLY STICK BUILT VERSUS CONCRETE AND STEEL, WHICH PROBABLY WOULD ALSO CHANGE THE WAY YOU BITE THE FIRE, I ASSUME. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SECOND QUESTION. 
          I KNOW, UH, UH, THE CITY MANAGER MENTIONED THE COMPOUNDING, UH, IMPACT OF SOME OF THE, UH, UH, OPERATING COSTS THAT, THAT WE HAVE HERE. 
          UH, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I KNOW, UH, AS WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET PREVIOUSLY, UH, THAT WE ALSO NEED TO KEEP IN MIND IS THAT FROM A CAPITAL COST PERSPECTIVE, EVERY TRUCK, EVERY AMBULANCE THAT ALREADY EXISTS IN OUR FLEET TODAY, THIS IS ONLY ADDRESSING THE NEW ONES, NOT THE REPLACEMENT OF ANY OF THE OLD ONES. 
          AND SO, UH, THAT IS OBVIOUSLY QUITE A BIT MORE CAPITAL THAT'LL BE ADDED TO THE CAPITAL YOU SEE ALREADY HERE, UH, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY, UM, A LITTLE BIT BREATHTAKING. 
          UM, BUT NECESSARY JUST, UH, JUST SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD ALL BE KEEPING IN MIND. 
          UM, YOU'VE OBVIOUSLY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY, AND I DON'T KNOW IF, UH, UH, WHEN THE CONSULTING COMPANY HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT ENVISION RICHARDSON AND, AND SOME OF THE STUFF THAT'S BEEN PUT TOGETHER ON THAT. 
          UM, I IMAGINE SOME OF THIS PLANNING IS, UH, 
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BASED ON KIND OF WHAT YOU SEE IN THE OVERALL PLAN WHERE YOU, WHERE WE HAVE STATED THAT THE GROWTH WOULD HAPPEN AND, AND THAT SORT OF THING. 
          CAN YOU JUST SPEAK AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL ABOUT THAT? YES, SIR. 
          AND THE CONSULTANTS DID AS WELL AS PART OF THEIR REPORT IN THERE, UH, THAT LOOK AT IT, AND IT'S THAT GROWTH THAT MAKES US LOOK AT, UM, PUTTING A TRUCK OVER WHERE WE'RE TALKING, PUTTING IN A TRUCK, A STATION WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING A STATION, UM, THE GROWTH OF THE EMS CALLS, THE LOCATION THAT, THAT WE BELIEVE THOSE ARE GONNA GROW IN AND ADDING LIKE PEAK DEMAND AMBULANCES AND WHERE WE'RE GONNA PUT THOSE AT. 
          SO EACH PIECE OF THAT GOES BACK TO THE, THE PLANNING. 
          OKAY. 
          THE, THE ONLY CONCERN, AND THAT I HAVE, UM, ABOUT ALL OF THIS, THIS, THIS ALL BY THE WAY, SOUNDS GREAT. 
          UH, I DO WELCOME ANY CONSIDERATION OF HOW SOME OF IT CAN BE ACCELERATED, IF THERE IS A WAY, UM, MY CONCERN ABOUT THE ACCELERATION IS THE ONE THAT THE CITY MANAGER ALREADY MENTIONED, WHICH IS THE, UH, $3 MILLION, UM, OR THE THREE POINT, IS IT 3.8? UH, ACTUALLY, SO 3 MILLION, UH, IN, IN 28, UH, ON THE OPERATING COST, IT WOULD BE, UH, AN EXPANSION. 
          UH, IT, IT KIND OF BUTTS US UP AGAINST OUR TOTAL GROWTH, UM, MAXIMUM THAT THE STATE WOULD ALLOW ANYWAY. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE BIT CONCERNING THERE. 
          UM, BUT I AM CURIOUS, UH, AND, AND MAYBE A LITTLE BIT WORRIED ABOUT, UH, WHAT I SEE GOING ON IN THE LEGISLATURE. 
          UM, AND, AND SPECIFICALLY ON THE LEGISLATIVE SIDE, UM, THE MOVE TO TAKE ALL THINGS COMMERCIAL AND ALLOWING THEM IN CITIES THAT ARE OVER 150,000 TODAY, 150,000 TOMORROW MIGHT BE ONE 20 OR ONE 10 OR 100. 
          UM, BUT THE ABILITY TO SWITCH THINGS, UM, ANYTHING COMMERCIAL OVER TO MULTIFAMILY. 
          SO I'M JUST CURIOUS FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE, AND, AND MAYBE IT'S A DIFFERENT TYPE OF CONVERSATION AND A DIFFERENT PRESENTATION, UM, BUT I'D LOVE TO BE ABLE AT SOME POINT TO KIND OF UNDERSTAND, UH, FROM YOU KIND OF WHAT LEVEL, HOW WE CAN BEGIN TO KIND OF JUDGE WHERE WE ARE CAPACITY WISE, UH, BOTH IN CASE LEGISLATIVE THINGS, ALLOW PEOPLE TO PUT APARTMENTS IN PLACES WHERE WE DIDN'T HAVE THEM PLANNED, AND THEREFORE SOMETHING THAT WAS A TWO STORY OFFICE BUILDING BECOMES A FOUR OR FIVE STORY APARTMENT COMPLEX WITH HUNDREDS, IF NOT THOUSANDS OF ADDITIONAL HEADS. 
          UM, BUT THEN SEPARATELY, EVEN THE DECISIONS WE MAKE AS A COUNCIL AND, AND OPPORTUNITIES WHERE HERE ON MONDAY NIGHTS, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO KIND OF LISTEN TO SOMEONE STAND WHERE YOU'RE STANDING AND SUGGEST TO US THAT THIS BUILDING IS NO LONGER VIABLE AND THAT WE COULD, WE COULD ADD A BUNCH OF APARTMENTS. 
          IS THERE A CAPA OH, A WAY FOR US TO KIND OF UNDERSTAND CAPACITY AT, AT EACH OF THE, UH, DIFFERENT STATIONS OR DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY? UM, WHAT'S, WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE BEST WAY WE CAN KIND OF BE INFORMED AS FAR AS THAT'S CONCERNED? I THINK WE NEED TO GO BACKWARDS AND, AND LOOK AT THAT AND MAYBE BRING MY CONSULTANTS BACK IN. 
          UM, THEY PROBABLY DEALT WITH THIS TO WHERE RIGHT NOW, I CAN'T, CAN'T ANSWER IT. 
          YEP. 
          UM, BUT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO DO A LOT OF HOMEWORK ON. 
          FAIR ENOUGH. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION I HAVE. 
          YES. 
          I, I I DON'T WANNA, UM, KIND OF OH, UNNECESSARILY EXTEND THIS, UH, DISCUSSION, BUT I, I, I DO WANNA ASK CHIEF VY TO, UM, JUST KIND OF ELABORATE ON ONE THING. 
          SO FIRST OF ALL, WE'RE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THE SUPPORT AND, UM, WE WILL BE, UH, ALL ABOUT THE, UM, THE WORK OF, OF, OF LOOKING AT, UH, THESE DEMANDS ARE THE DEMANDS, YOU KNOW, AND, AND OUR CAPACITIES AND, AND FIGURING OUT HOW CAN WE MOVE THIS, UH, FORWARD IF THAT NEED BE. 
          HOWEVER, I, I DO WANNA, AGAIN, CHIEF BUG, I'D REALLY LIKE YOU TO SPEAK TO THIS BECAUSE WITHIN THIS, UM, WITHIN THIS PLAN, UM, WE, WE FOCUSED ON EMS BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, AND THEN I'M LOOKING AT THE, THE LAST NUMBERS I HAVE IN 2023, THERE WERE 10,288 EMS CALLS VERSUS 3,163 FIRE CALLS. 
          UM, MANY OF THE STEPS THAT, THAT, AND I THINK SEVERAL OF YOU HAVE MADE THIS POINT, MANY OF THE EARLY STEPS HERE IS TO BRING, UM, THE RESOURCES TO EMS, WHETHER IT'S THE MF STAFF ROTATION, ELEVATING THE EMS BATTALION CHIEF BRINGING SEVEN ON, AND, AND, UH, UH, MAYOR PRO TIM, I, I LIKE HER TO SPEAK TO THIS, BUT THE UTILIZATION OF OVERTIME FOR, UH, PEAK DEMAND, UM, UM, HAS BEEN AT LEAST AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH CURTIS, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S PRETTY, PRETTY COMMON AS YOU'RE KIND OF INCREMENTALLY, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WALKING INTO IT OR STEPPING INTO IT. 
          SO I WANT CURTIS TO KIND OF JUST TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE. 
          HOW, HOW DOES THAT WORK FOR YOUR DEPARTMENT? AND IS THAT A, IS THAT A BURDEN? BUT IF, IF YOU COULD TALK TO THE STRATEGY BEHIND FOCUSING A LOT OF THE EARLY RESOURCES ON THE, ON THE EMS IN 
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THIS PLAN? I THINK MAYBE, UH, 'CAUSE 'CAUSE I THINK WITH, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE VOLUME OF WORK BETWEEN EMS AND FIRE, I FEEL LIKE WE REALLY ARE FOCUSING THE RESO RESOURCES WHERE THEY NEED TO BE. 
          UM, KNOWING THAT WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME, PERHAPS ON THE FIRE SIDE THAN WE DID ON THE MS SIDE. 
          NOW, CORRECT ME IF ANYTHING I JUST SAID IS SERIOUSLY CORRECT ME IF ANYTHING I JUST SAID IS WRONG, BUT I, I DON'T WANT IT, I DON'T WANT ANYBODY, UH, HERE OR LISTENING OR THAT, THAT'S GONNA LISTEN TO US LATER THINKING THAT, UM, IT'S SOLELY THE FINANCIALS DRIVING THIS 'CAUSE. 
          'CAUSE IT'S, IT'S NOT, IN MY OPINION, IT'S NOT SOLELY THE FINANCIALS. 
          FINANCIALS DRIVING, IT'S PRIORITIZING WHAT, UM, I THINK THAT YOU GUYS HAVE TOLD ME NEEDS TO PRI BE PRIORITIZED IN THE FIRST THREE TO FOUR YEARS OF THIS 10 YEAR PLAN. 
          YES, SIR. 
          SO, THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          IT IS, UH, EMS HEAVY ON, ON THE LEFT SIDE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE SHEET MM-HMM . 
          I'LL CALL IT THE LEFT SIDE. 
          UH, AND SOME OF THAT IS DRIVEN, WELL, NUMBER ONE, WE'RE ABOUT 75. 
          THE 80% EMS, IT DEPENDS ON THE YEAR. 
          SO WE ARE HEAVY ON EMS. MOST OF OUR DAYS WE WILL RUN OUT OF AMBULANCES WELL BEFORE WE RUN OUT OF FIRE APPARATUS. 
          THEY CAN'T FREE UP BECAUSE OUR FIRE APPARATUS ARE ON EMS CALLS. 
          SO MOST OF OUR CALLS ARE EMS. UM, THERE ARE DAYS WHEN WE GET, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE WORKING A STRUCTURE FIRE THAT TAKES ALL BUT TWO OF OUR FIRE APPARATUS OUT. 
          SO THOSE TWO ARE RUNNING. 
          WE GET MUTUAL AID THAT COMES IN TO HELP US OUT. 
          BUT THAT'S A, A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF OUR TIME. 
          IT'S GROWING AND OUR SECOND INCIDENTS ARE GROWING, BUT IMMEDIATELY WE'RE SEEING THAT WE'RE STILL EMS WEIGH EMS HEAVY. 
          SO I CAN GET EMS RESOURCES MUCH QUICKER. 
          I CAN GET AN AMBULANCE IN 18 MONTHS. 
          I CAN ADD EMS SUPERVISION PRETTY QUICK. 
          UM, DOING THE, THE OVERTIME FOR PEAK DEMAND VERSUS HIRING, HIRING WOULD BE GREAT. 
          THAT PUTS, PUTS IT IN SERVICE 24 7. 
          UM, BUT PEAK DEMAND, WHEN WE LOOK AT WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW, OUR, OUR BUSY TIME IS FROM 7:00 AM TO REALLY ABOUT EIGHT OR NINE IN THE EVENING, MOSTLY TILL ABOUT SEVEN. 
          SO IF WE PUT THAT IN, THAT WILL REALLY HELP THAT. 
          RARELY DO WE RUN OUT OF AMBULANCES PAST ABOUT NINE, EIGHT, OR NINE O'CLOCK AT NIGHT. 
          IT, IT TAKES A REALLY BIG INSTANT, USUALLY UP ON THE HIGHWAY TO DEPLETE ALL OF OUR AMBULANCES. 
          UM, OR A BIG STORM. 
          BUT, UH, THE, THE USING OVERTIME, SO WE DON'T, JUST CAN'T JUST LOOK AT THE, THE PERSON'S SALARY. 
          THAT'S ABOUT 33% CHIEF YOUNGER, ISN'T IT? 30, ABOUT 33% BENEFITS AS WELL ON TOP OF THAT. 
          SO WE PUT IT ALL TOGETHER. 
          AND IF WE'RE ONLY GONNA NEED THE AMBULANCE PRIMARILY, AT LEAST TO START WITH AND SEE WHERE WE GO, IT MAKES SENSE TO NOT PAY, NOT BRING ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEES ON, BRING AN ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEE ON ISN'T JUST THE SALARIES AND THE BENEFITS. 
          IT'S ALSO A WHOLE LOT OF EQUIPMENT AND TRAINING, UM, WHERE WE CAN UTILIZE OVERTIME. 
          MY PERSONNEL, I BELIEVE WOULD BE REALLY GREAT WITH IT. 
          ALL THE DEPARTMENTS THAT WE SPOKE WITH THAT RUN PEAK DEMAND AMBULANCES, THE PERSONNEL LOVE IT. 
          THEY RUN IT BASE. 
          A LOT OF YOUR FIREFIGHTERS WILL WORK PART-TIME JOBS WHEN THEY GET OFF. 
          WELL, THIS WOULD BE A PART-TIME JOB FOR A LOT OF THEM. 
          AND IT PUTS INTO THEIR, THEIR, UH, THEIR, UH, RETIREMENT EVEN AS THEY'RE DOING IT. 
          SO THEY REALLY LOVE IT. 
          THE DEPARTMENTS HAVE SAID THEY HAD A PEAK DEMAND AND THEY TOOK IT AWAY. 
          LIKE WHEN WE MAKE THIS ONE A FULL TIME, THEY ACTUALLY GET MORE COMPLAINTS THAN ANYTHING THAT THEY TOOK IT AWAY. 
          UH, WE'VE HEARD THAT FROM MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS. 
          SO YES, IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S, IT'S TIME AND A HALF, BUT WHEN YOU FACTOR IN THE BENEFITS AND ALL OF THAT, UM, SO THAT'S OUR STRATEGY TO AT LEAST START IT OFF, KICK IT OFF, GET GOING, LET'S SEE WHERE IT'S AT, AND IT GETS AN AMBULANCE AND SERVICE REALLY QUICK TO HIRE THE PERSONNEL FOR IT. 
          THAT'S TWO YEARS RIGHT OFF THE BAT. 
          IT'S WHEN WE DECIDE TO DO IT, WE PULL THE TRIGGER. 
          THAT'S TWO YEARS OF TRAINING THOSE PEOPLE BEFORE WE CAN EVEN PUT IT IN AN ADDITIONAL UNIT IN SERVICE. 
          SO COULD IT BE WE PUT IT IN PEAK DEMAND, WE LOOK, SAY, HEY, TWO YEARS WE'RE GONNA HIRE AND, AND DO IT. 
          WE CAN DO THAT. 
          UM, BUT THE FIRE SIDE, WE SEE THE DAY COMING, UM, WHERE WE'RE GONNA NEED MORE FIRE APPARATUS. 
          THE PLACEMENT OF STATION SEVEN, UM, REALLY DOES HAVE A LOT TO DO WITH ISO WHERE WE NEED TO PUT IT. 
          WE, WE NEED STATION SEVEN FOR THE PERSONNEL, THE APPARATUS FOR THE CALL VOLUME COMING, BUT WHERE WE WANNA PUT IT ALSO HELPS US FILL A ISO GAP. 
          SO IT'S TWO BIRDS, ONE STONE. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO DOES THAT PRETTY WELL ANSWER IT? YEAH, I, I THINK THE ONLY THING I WOULD ADD IS, IS, UM, AND, AND TO THE, TO MAYOR PRO TIM, TO YOUR POINT, UM, YOU KNOW, ONCE WE ACTIVATE THAT AMBULANCE, EVEN IF IT IS WITH THE, JUST FOR PEAK DEMAND, YOU KNOW, THIS, IN MY MIND, THIS, THIS PLANE IS VERY FLUID. 
          AND SO IF CURTIS COMES TO US AND SAYS, WE THOUGHT PEAK DEMAND WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE FOR THIS PERIOD OF TIME, BUT 
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WE NEED TO, UH, ACTIVATE FULL TIME. 
          WE'RE WE, WE WILL COME BACK TO YOU AND SAY ABSOLUTELY. 
          SO, SO JUST ACTIVATING IT, EVEN IN THIS PART-TIME WAY, JUST, UH, READIES US TO ACTIVATE IT FULL-TIME SOONER IF WE NEED TO. 
          I, MY CONCERN WAS, IS BASED ON THE SCHEDULE, YOU PUT IT IN FRONT OF US, YOU'RE GONNA RUN OVERTIME FOR EIGHT YEARS BEFORE YOU PUT THAT AMBULANCE INTO FULL-TIME SERVICE. 
          IF I'M READING WHAT YOU'VE, YOU PUT HERE, BECAUSE YOU'VE SAID BASICALLY THAT THE PEAK DEMANDS GONNA START IN 27, FIRE STATION ISN'T GONNA OPEN. 
          'CAUSE THAT'S WHEN YOU SAID THE FIRE, THE AMBULANCE WOULD THEN GO FULL TIME. 
          SO THAT'S EIGHT YEARS OF OVERTIME. 
          THAT WAS MY CONCERN. 
          YES, SIR. 
          IS IF YOU TOLD ME, YOU KNOW, LIKE WHEN YOU BROUGHT ON, UM, SIX SIX, RIGHT? I THINK IT WAS ROUGHLY, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, IT WAS SOMETHING LESS THAN A YEAR THAT YOU RAN OVERTIME FOR THE, YOU DID PEAK DEMAND. 
          FIRST YOU BROUGHT ON SIX AND THEN YOU BROUGHT IT ON AND WENT ON FROM THERE. 
          EIGHT YEARS IS WHAT THAT THAT'S THERE, THAT'S WHERE MY CONCERN WAS. 
          IF YOU TOLD ME, HEY, WE'RE GONNA RUN OVERTIME DEMAND FOR A YEAR, 18 MONTHS, SEE WHERE WE'RE AT. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          BUT BASED ON WHAT YOU PUT IN FRONT OF ME, IT'S EIGHT YEARS. 
          THAT CAUSED ME A LOT OF CONCERN. 
          NO, I TO TOTALLY UNDERSTAND. 
          I MEAN, UH, VERY, VERY GOOD POINT. 
          I, I THINK, I THINK THIS WAS, UM, TAKEN A, UM, CONSERVATIVE APPROACH TO LAYING THIS OUT. 
          I JUST WANNA REASSURE YOU AND THE REST OF THE COUNCIL THAT IF CURTIS SAYS THE PEAK DEMAND'S NOT WORKING, WE NEED TO GO FULL BORE SOONER. 
          THERE'S, THERE'LL BE SEVERAL TIMES IN HERE WHERE YOU'LL HAVE ACADEMIES WHERE WE COULD ADD STAFF THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO COME ON MAN THE AMBULANCE IN A FULL-TIME WAY AND NOT NEED TO DEPEND ON THE OVERTIME. 
          I THINK THIS WAS MORE OF A CONSERVATIVE APPROACH TO LAYING OUT THE FULL 10 YEARS. 
          AND I ALSO WANT TO, I WANNA REMIND EVERYBODY THAT YES, WE ARE, WHATEVER WE ARE NOW, 126,000, I THINK WAS THE LAST THING I SAW BASED ON STATISTICS. 
          I JUST SAW WE BALLOON UP OVER 330,000 PEOPLE DURING DAYTIME HOURS MM-HMM . 
          SO TO, TO SAY THAT WE'RE GONNA, THAT WE'RE ONLY AT 120 AND WE'RE GONNA GROW A LITTLE BIT. 
          TOTALLY TRUE. 
          BUT YOU GOTTA ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT WE, RIGHT, THE LAST STATISTICS THAT I SAW IS WE'RE UP OVER 330,000 PEOPLE. 
          THAT DOESN'T EVEN INCLUDE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE RUNNING UP AND DOWN 75 AND UP AND DOWN GEORGIA BUSH. 
          SO THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE, THAT'S WHERE I'M ALWAYS THINKING. 
          IT'S NOT JUST, I MEAN, IF, IF ALL YOU HAD TO CARE FOR WAS THE 130,000 PEOPLE THAT WE HAD THAT LIVED IN EMBEDDED HERE, THAT'D BE ONE DISCUSSION. 
          BUT YOU'RE TALKING, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW AND AGAIN, I JUST SAW THIS STATISTIC, UH, WHAT WAS IT, FRIDAY, THURSDAY OF LAST WEEK. 
          IT'S WELL OVER 330,000 IS WHAT THE ESTIMATE IS. 
          SO THAT, THAT, THAT'S MY CONCERN. 
          SO TO GO EIGHT YEARS, THAT'S WHERE I WAS COMING FROM. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          WELL, AGAIN, I JUST, I'LL COM I WANT TO COMMIT TO YOU AND THE COUNSEL THAT IF, IF THE NEED FOR A FULL ACTIVATION OF THE AMBULANCE SEVEN OCCURS, UM, SOONER THAN WE'RE ANTICIPATING IN THIS CONSERVATIVE TIMELINE HERE, WE WILL COME BACK TO YOU. 
          WE BELIEVE ME, CURTIS WON'T LET ME NOT COME BACK TO YOU, , WE WILL COME BACK TO YOU AND WE WILL LET YOU KNOW THAT WE NEED TO ACTIVATE IT IN A FULL-TIME WAY SOONER THAN WE ORIGINALLY PLANNED. 
          UM, BUT, UH, ANYWAY, THANK, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO CLARIFY THAT AND JUST YEP. 
          AND THAT'S A GREAT POINT. 
          UM, THE, UH, AND AS I TOLD MR. MAGNER OVER AGAIN, HE, HE SAID IT MULTIPLE TIMES. 
          THIS IS JUST A PLAN. 
          YEAH. 
          AND LIKE I SAID, DEPENDING ON, UH, WHAT HAPPENS IN THE WORLD, IT, IT'S GONNA CHANGE. 
          IT'S GONNA GO, HAS HAVE TO GO FA ONLINE FASTER OR BE PUT OFF. 
          I MEAN, THAT'S WONDERFUL. 
          CHIEF PUY TEAM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE THIS EVENING. 
          APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION. 
          ALRIGHT, IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS, WE'LL MOVE 
          [7. REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE FY 2025-2026 WATER/WASTEWATER MAINTENANCE STRATEGIES]
ON TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, REVIEW AND DISCUSS FISCAL YEAR 20 25, 26, WATER WASTEWATER MAINTENANCE STRATEGIES. 
          MR. MAGNER, UH, THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UM, WE WERE GONNA DO A LITTLE, UH, SWITCH OUT HERE WHERE OUR WATER AND WASTEWATER TEAM COMES UP AND, UH, GETS SETTLED IN. 
          UM, IN, UH, IN THE MEANTIME, I WOULD, UH, MAYOR, JUST LIKE TO RECOGNIZE, UH, PHILIP THOMPSON. 
          PHIL PHILIP, RAISE YOUR HAND. 
          UH, PHILIP HAS BEEN A, UH, INTERN WITH US. 
          HE IS A, UH, FINANCE MAJOR AT OKLAHOMA STATE, AND HE'S BEEN INTERNING WITH THE PUBLIC SERVICES DEPARTMENT. 
          UH, THIS SUMMARY, HE IS DONE SOME GREAT ANALYSIS, UH, UH, WORK AND, UH, UM, AND REALLY HAVE, UH, ADDED SOME, SOME, UH, GREAT VALUE TO SOME OF THE WORK THAT YOU'LL SEE TONIGHT. 
          AND SO WE INVITED PHILIP TO COME SEE FIRSTHAND, UH, WHERE ALL THE INFORMATION THAT HE'S HELPED COMPILE AND, AND, UH, ANALYZE HIS, UH, AS GOING. 
          SO, UM, BRAD, ARE YOU READY? YES, SIR. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          BRAD BEHAR, OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, UH, PUBLIC SERVICE, IS GONNA LEAD THE FIRST PORTION OF THIS BRIEFING. 
          MAYOR, UH, THIS IS OUR WATER WASTEWATER DEEP DIVE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WE WERE JUST LOOKING JUST SO, JUST KIND OF FOR COMPARISON SAKE, WE WERE JUST LOOKING AT A 45 ISH MILLION DOLLARS CAPITAL OR, UH, OR MASTER PLAN OVER 10 YEARS, UH, FOR, UM, FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. 
          UH, BRAD AND NICK ARE GONNA SHARE WITH YOU A $20 MILLION CAPITAL PLAN FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER THIS YEAR, UH, SINGLE YEAR. 
          AND SO, UH, THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT DEEP DIVE THAT, UM, WE, WE, UH, WE HAVE EACH YEAR TO, UH, DEMONSTRATE FOR YOU AND TO REALLY LET 
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THE COMMUNITY UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE LOCAL DYNAMICS BEHIND THE WATER RATE, UM, CONSIDERATIONS THAT WE'LL BE, UM, PRESENTING TO YOU NEXT WEEK. 
          OBVIOUSLY, THE COST OF, OF, OF OUR TREATED WATER AND THE COST OF TREATING OUR WASTEWATER IS A BIG DRIVER, AS DESCRIBED BY JENNA COVINGTON IN NORTH TEXAS A FEW WEEKS AGO. 
          UH, THIS IS THE OTHER KEY COMPONENT TO WHAT MAKES UP THAT RATE, UH, CONSIDERATION EACH YEAR. 
          AND SO, BRAD AND NICK, UH, COLE, OUR DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC OR ENGINEERING, THEY'RE GONNA TAG TEAM THE WATER AND WASTEWATER PIECE OF THIS. 
          AND SO, BRAD, LEMME TURN IT OVER TO YOU FOR, UH, FURTHER BRIEFING. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, THANK YOU MR. MAGNER. 
          UH, THANK YOU MAYOR CITY COUNCIL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND PRESENT, UH, OUR DEEP DIVE HERE ON THE WATER AND WASTEWATER MAINTENANCE STRATEGIES. 
          WE'LL START WITH OUR WATER SYSTEM GUIDING PRINCIPLES, AND THESE ARE, UH, THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES THAT HELP US TO IDENTIFY, PRIORITIZE, UH, THE MAINTENANCE AND CAPITAL PROJECTS, UH, AND STRATEGIES, UH, THAT ARE INCLUDED IN OUR, UH, PROPOSED BUDGETS. 
          SO DO JUMPING INTO THE WATER MAINTENANCE AND CAPITAL STRATEGIES. 
          WE'LL START WITH, UH, JUST SOME WATER SYSTEM HIGHLIGHTS SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE, UH, THE NUMBER OF CRITICAL ASSETS THAT WE MANAGE. 
          ALMOST 600 MILES OF WATER MAIN 15,000 VALVES, 4,800 FIRE HYDRANTS, 37 SERVICE CONNECTIONS IN THEIR ASSOCIATED METERS. 
          WE'VE GOT FIVE ACTIVE PUMP STATIONS. 
          WE'LL HAVE SIX COMING ONLINE WHEN THE 8 25 PRESSURE ZONE PROJECTS COMPLETE 15 WATER STORAGE FACILITIES. 
          THOSE ARE YOUR GROUND AND ELEVATED STORAGE TANKS. 
          WE'LL HAVE AN ADDITIONAL, UH, IT'S ACTUALLY IN SERVICE NOW, BUT, UH, WHEN WE ACCEPT THE 8 25 PRESSURE ZONE PROJECT, UH, WE CURRENTLY HAVE THE CAPACITY TO, UH, PROVIDE 60 MILLION GALLONS OF WATER PER DAY. 
          WHEN THE NEW PUMP STATION IS ONLINE, THAT NUMBER WILL JUMP TO 75 MILLION GALLONS OF WATER PER DAY. 
          UH, IN THE LAST 12 MONTHS, WE'VE HAD 4,900 CALLS FOR SERVICE, 235 OF THOSE BEING WATER LEAKS. 
          LOOKING AT THIS YEAR'S, UH, MAINTENANCE PLAN UPDATE, WE'VE COMPLETED SEVERAL MAINTENANCE PROJECTS AT TWO OF OUR PUMP STATIONS, AND WE'VE CONTINUED OUR FIRE HYDRANT MAINTENANCE PROGRAM WITH OUR CONTRACTOR WHERE WE TEST AND SERVICE, UH, 800 HYDRANTS ANNUALLY. 
          UH, WE MAKE THE REPAIRS AND REPLACEMENTS AS NECESSARY. 
          WE COMPLETED, UH, 160, UH, TO DATE, UH, LOOKING AT NEXT YEAR'S PROPOSED BUDGET. 
          AS YOU CAN SEE, THE BUDGET HAS STAYED FAIRLY CONSISTENT COMPARED TO LAST YEAR. 
          THERE IS A LITTLE JUMP IN THE CONTRACTUAL SERVICES, UH, THAT STARTED IN FY 25, AND THAT IS DUE TO, UH, PRIMARILY OUR, UH, LEAD AND COPPER RULE IMPROVEMENT COMPLIANCE EFFORTS. 
          AND I'LL GET INTO THAT HERE IN JUST A MINUTE. 
          LOOKING NOW AT OUR PROPOSED PLAN FOR NEXT YEAR, UH, WE'VE IDENTIFIED SOME ADDITIONAL PROJECTS AT TWO OF OUR PUMP STATIONS AND SOME NECESSARY WORK AT A COUPLE OF OUR VALVES UP ON, UH, NORTH STAR AND THE PANHANDLE AND OF COURT WILL CONTINUE WITH OUR HYDRANT MAINTENANCE PROGRAM. 
          UH, THE LEAD AND COPPER RULE IMPROVEMENTS SET, I JUST REST, UH, REFERENCED. 
          THESE ARE OUR COMPLIANCE EFFORTS TO DATE, EPA, UH, ISSUED WITH THEIR, UH, THE, IN WITH INSIDE THE L-C-R-I-A REQUIREMENT, UH, BY THE CITY TO INVENTORY, UH, ALL SERVICE LINE MATERIALS, BOTH PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SIDE OF THE MEDIA. 
          IT REQUIRED US TO, UH, PUBLISH AN INTERACTIVE MAP THAT INVENTORY THAT'S AVAILABLE, AND CATEGORIZE THE MATERIALS ASSOCIATED WITH EACH ADDRESS. 
          WE ACCOMPLISHED THAT IN OCTOBER, UH, IN OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR. 
          UH, THERE ARE FOUR QUALIFICATION OR FOUR, UH, MATERIAL, UH, CATEGORIES, NON-LEAD LED GALVANIZED REQUIREMENT REPLACEMENTS AND UNKNOWN. 
          UM, ALSO IN THE REQUIREMENTS, WE ARE REQUIRED TO NOTIFY RESIDENTS OF ANY LEAD OR POTENTIAL. 
          WHEN THAT'S YOUR UNKNOWN, THE POTENTIAL, UH, LEAD SERVICE LINE, INCLUDING THAT NOTIFICATION ARE, UH, THE LEAD HEALTH EFFECTS THAT THE EPA PROVIDED US. 
          UH, AGAIN, IN OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR, UH, WE SENT OUT, UM, APPROXIMATELY 11,000 NOTIFICATIONS FOR UNKNOWN SERVICE LINES CURRENTLY UNDERWAY. 
          WE HAVE OUR PHYSICAL INVENTORY EFFORTS WHERE WE ARE, UH, GOING TO PHYSICALLY IDENTIFY THOSE 11,000, APPROXIMATELY 11,000 UNKNOWN SERVICE LINES. 
          UH, AND WE EXPECT TO HAVE THAT COMPLETE, UH, BY THE END OF FY 26, UH, ONTO OUR ENVIRONMENTAL OUTREACH. 
          UH, THIS IS A SUMMARY OF OUR ENVIRONMENTAL OUTREACH MANAGER JAY ELLE'S PRESENTATION, UH, THAT WE SAW A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, UH, WHERE WE ALSO, UH, PARTNER, UH, WITH SOME OF OUR LOCAL AND UH, REGIONAL ORGANIZATIONS. 
          MOVING NOW TO THE CAPITAL PART, UH, OF OUR BUDGET, LOOKING AT THE, UH, CURRENT YEAR UPDATE, WE'VE GOT FIVE WATER MAIN REPLACEMENTS THAT ARE EITHER COMPLETE OR IN, UH, SOME FORM OF CONSTRUCTION, THE SAME WITH TWO LARGE VALVES. 
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WE ALSO HAVE OUR METER REPLACEMENT PROGRAM WHERE WE'RE GOING TO COMPLETE THE REMAINING 350 METER CHANGEOUTS, WHICH ARE A COMBINATION OF RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL, UH, THAT WERE SKIPPED THROUGH, UH, THE ORIGINAL PASS THROUGH DUE TO, UH, DIFFICULT OR CHALLENGING, UH, SITE CONDITIONS. 
          AND THEN ON THE WATER FACILITIES FRONT, WE'LL BE, UH, DOING A REHABILITATION OF OUR 5 MILLION GALLON GROUND STORAGE TANK AT OUR EAST SIDE PUMP STATION. 
          LOOKING AT THE, UH, FISCAL YEAR CAPITAL PROPOSED BUDGET, UM, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT, UH, THERE'S AN INCREASE IN THE BUDGET, UH, ACROSS ALL OF THESE LINE ITEMS. AND THAT'S PRIMARILY DUE TO FUNDING THAT'S BEEN FREED UP BY THE WRAPPING UP OF THE 8 25 PROJECT THAT NICK WILL BE TALKING ABOUT HERE IN A COUPLE MINUTES. 
          OUR NEXT YEAR'S CAPITAL PLAN, WE'VE IDENTIFIED THREE NEW WATER MAINS FOR REPLACEMENT. 
          UH, WE'VE IDENTIFIED TWO LARGE VALVES FOR REPLACEMENT. 
          WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE OUR METER REPLACEMENT PROGRAM, BUT WE'LL BE REPLACING, UH, THREE INCH AND LARGER COMPOUND AND TURBINE METERS, UH, WITH ULTRASONICS. 
          UH, AND, UH, WE'LL BE, UH, DOING SOME DESIGN, UH, OF IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS AT TWO OF OUR PUMP STATIONS AND CONSTRUCTION AT ANOTHER. 
          WE'LL ALSO BE REPLACING, UH, A SURGE TANK THAT'S ON THE WATER SUPPLY LINE TO OUR WEST SIDE PUMP STATION. 
          AND JUST ALSO WANTED TO PROVIDE A QUICK UPDATE ON OUR WATER MODEL AND MASTER PLAN, UH, WHICH THE PURPOSE OF THOSE IS TO PROVIDE SHORT AND LONG-TERM GUIDANCE TO US FOR WATER DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM PROJECTS AND ASSISTED DEVELOPING, UH, THOSE CAPITAL PLANS. 
          WE'VE GOT THE EXISTING SYSTEM MODEL AND CALIBRATION COMPLETE AND EXPECT TO RECEIVE THE MASTER PLAN AND REPORT IN THE FALL THIS YEAR. 
          UH, ONCE WE RECEIVE THAT REPORT, WE WILL GET SOME IN-HOUSE STAFF TRAINING ON THE MODEL AND THE SOFTWARE, UH, BY THE END OF THIS YEAR. 
          UH, THE BENEFITS TO US, UH, UTILIZING A MODEL LIKE THIS IN-HOUSE, IT'S GONNA REDUCE THE RELIANCE THAT WE HAVE ON OUR, UH, SERVICE CONTRACTS. 
          IT'S GONNA ALLOW US TO BE, UH, MORE EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE IN ASSISTING OUR OWN CITY OF RICHARDSON DEPARTMENTS THAT WE WORK WITH, LIKE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, PLANNING, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND CAPITAL PROJECTS, AND THEN INTERNALLY TO PUBLIC SERVICES. 
          IT'LL HELP US STREAMLINE SOME OF OUR OPERATIONS. 
          AND SO THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT FOR YOU RIGHT NOW, AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO, UH, DIRECTOR OF CAPITAL PROJECTS. 
          COLE TALK ABOUT THE 8 25 PRESSURE ZONE IMPROVEMENTS AND OUR WASTEWATER STRATEGIES. 
          THANK YOU, BRAD. 
          UM, MAYOR, COUNCIL, APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET BACK IN FRONT OF YOU AFTER ONLY ONE WEEK. 
          , UH, MOVING INTO OUR, JUST A QUICK RECAP ON OUR 8 25 PROJECT, UH, THAT, THAT PROJECT, WE ARE BUILDING A 15 MILLION GALLON PER DAY PUMP STATION, A 5 MILLION GALLON GROUND STORAGE TANK. 
          WE ARE, WE'VE CONSTRUCTED A, UH, WATER LINE FOR THE CITY OF RICHARDSON AS PART OF THAT, AND WE ARE ALSO CONSTRUCTING A WATERLINE FOR NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT, AS WELL AS A METERING STATION. 
          AND, UH, WE'VE MADE QUITE A BIT OF PROGRESS, UH, UH, SO FAR ON THE PROJECT. 
          UH, WE HAVE PUT THE, UH, WATERLINE INTO SERVICE FOR THE CITY OF RICHARDSON. 
          WE'VE ALSO COMPLETED THE GROUND STORAGE TANK. 
          THE RENTER MEDIAN, UH, ENHANCEMENTS ARE COMING TO AN END. 
          UH, THEY SHOULD BE WRAPPED UP IN AUGUST. 
          I THINK THEY'RE DOWN TO PRETTY MUCH PUTTING MULCH IN THERE. 
          AND, UH, ALL THE IRRIGATION SHOULD BE ALL READY TO GO. 
          THE PUMP STATION IS, UH, MOVING ALONG PRETTY WELL. 
          WE ARE, WE ARE EXPECTING THE TRANSFORMER TO BE INSTALLED IN ABOUT TWO WEEKS, WHICH WILL ALLOW US TO START THE COMMISSIONING AND TESTING PROCESS BEFORE WE PUT THAT ONLINE. 
          UM, THE NORTH PARK, UH, EXCUSE ME, POINT, NORTH PARK IMPROVEMENTS ARE ALSO COMING TO A, COMING TO AN END. 
          THEY'RE, UM, THEY'RE PROGRESSING VERY WELL. 
          THE PLAYGROUND AND EVERYTHING'S READY TO GO. 
          I THINK WE'LL BE AUGUST TIMEFRAME THAT THAT'LL, UH, BE WRAPPED UP THE GENERATOR, WHICH, UH, DOESN'T QUITE HAVE AS LONG A LEAD TIME AS SOME OF THE FIRE TRUCKS. 
          BUT, UH, THAT WAS ONE OF OUR EARLY OUT ITEMS ON THE CONTRACT SHOULD BE, UH, DELIVERED BY THE END OF THE CALENDAR YEAR. 
          AND WE'LL GET THAT, THAT PUT ONLINE. 
          AND, UH, THE LAST LITTLE BIT OF CONSTRUCTION THAT YOU'RE REALLY SEEING IN EARNEST RIGHT NOW IS THE NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT WATERLINE THAT IS GOING ON ALONG RENTER AT THE MOMENT. 
          UH, THEY ARE FINISHING UP THE, AND THEY'RE ALSO WORKING ON THE METERING STATION, WHICH IS KIND OF GOING THROUGH FINAL, UH, INSTRUMENTATION. 
          AND THEN, UH, PART OF THE ENHANCEMENT THAT WE HAD FOR THE LANDSCAPE WERE 50 HARDWOOD TREES THAT WE HAVE IN THE, IN THE CONTRACT. 
          AND WE HAVE THOSE KIND OF SCATTERED AMONGST FIVE DIFFERENT AREAS. 
          THREE OF THE AREAS, UH, WERE ABLE TO BE PLANTED ALREADY, WHICH ARE AREAS B, C, AND E SHOWN IN GREEN ON THE MAP. 
          AND THE AREA A WILL BE LIKELY WRAPPED UP ABOUT THE SAME TIME THE PARK IS. 
          SO HOPEFULLY WE'RE LOOKING AT AUGUST TIMEFRAME. 
          THE TREES IN THAT AREA WILL BE COMPLETED AS WELL. 
          AREA D IN THE MIDDLE, UH, THE LARGER RED AREA THERE THAT, UH, WILL PROBABLY TAKE INTO LATER FALL BEFORE 
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WE GET THE PLANTINGS IN THAT AREA DONE. 
          WE HAVE TO FINISH THE WATER LINE AND, UH, JUST GENERAL SITE CLEANUP TO MAKE THAT AREA PREPPED BEFORE WE CAN PLANT THOSE TREES. 
          UH, KIND OF SHIFTING GEARS HERE FROM WATER INTO THE, THE WASTEWATER SIDE OF THINGS, MUCH LIKE THE WATER SIDE, WE HAVE GUIDING PRINCIPLES, UH, FOR THIS SECTION AS WELL. 
          GENERALLY, IT'S COMPLIANCE WITH REGULATIONS AND, UH, CONTINUING TO IMPLEMENT OUR CMOM PROGRAM. 
          UH, SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OUT OF OUR WASTEWATER PROGRAM. 
          WE HAVE, UH, SIX SEWER SHEDS, UH, WITHIN THE CITY OF RICHARDSON. 
          AND WE HAVE THREE WASTEWATER, UH, TREATMENT PROVIDERS THAT IS THE CITY OF DALLAS, CITY OF GARLAND, AND NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT. 
          UH, ALL OF OUR METERED CONNECTIONS, ALL OF OUR CONNECTIONS ARE METERED WITH THE EXCEPTION OF DUCK CREEK, WHICH GOES TO THE CITY OF GARLAND, BUT BY THE END OF SUMMER, UH, THAT WILL BE METERED. 
          ALSO, THE CITY OF GARLAND IS INSTALLING A METER RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, AND JUST A COUPLE OF, UH, FUN STATISTICS ABOUT OUR WASTEWATER SYSTEM. 
          WE HAVE ABOUT 430 MILES OF WASTEWATER MAIN THROUGHOUT THE CITY. 
          WE HAVE 5,430 MANHOLE, 2200 MAINLINE CLEANOUTS, FIVE LIFT STATIONS, WHICH EQUATES TO 10 PUMPS. 
          AND LAST YEAR THERE WERE 725 SERVICE CALLS. 
          OKAY, RECAP OF WHAT THE CMOM PROGRAM ACTUALLY IS. 
          UH, CMO M'S, AN ACRONYM. 
          IT STANDS FOR CAPACITY MANAGEMENT, OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE. 
          AND YOU CAN KIND OF SEE WHAT FALLS UNDER EACH ONE OF THOSE CATEGORIES ON THE GRAPHIC THERE. 
          UM, THE KIND OF CARTOON ILLUSTRATION, I THINK REALLY DOES A GREAT JOB SUMMING UP WHAT CMOM IS AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. 
          WE ARE TRYING TO ONLY KEEP THE WASTEWATER IN THE WASTEWATER SYSTEM. 
          WE DON'T WANT ANY GROUNDWATER OR STORMWATER GETTING IN THERE THAT JUST TAKES UP OUR PIPE CAPACITY. 
          IT GIVES US A HIGHER CHANCE OF, UH, SANITARY SEWER OVERFLOWS, AND WE END UP PAYING FOR THE TREATMENT SIDE OF THINGS. 
          SO WE WANNA JUST KEEP WHAT WE NEED TO TREAT IN THE PIPE AND NOTHING ELSE. 
          UH, LOOKING BACK AT FY 25, WE COMPLETED OUR FY 24 PIPE REHAB AND OUR PRAIRIE CREEK MANHOLE REHAB PROJECT. 
          WHEN, UM, THIS NEXT MONTH, WE PLAN ON KICKING OFF THE CONSTRUCTION FOR OUR FY 25 PIPE REHAB AND OUR, AND PHASE ONE OF OUR SPRING CREEK MANHOLE REHAB PROJECT. 
          AND, UH, KEEP GOING ON OUR FY 26 PIPE REHAB DESIGN. 
          UH, WE ALSO THIS YEAR HELPED OUR, UH, UH, SISTER DEPARTMENT PUBLIC SERVICES WITH A COUPLE OF EMERGENCY CALLS WHERE THEY HAD, UH, A COLLAPSED LINE WITH AN OBSTRUCTION IN IT THAT WE WERE ABLE TO HELP OUT, DO SOME PIPE BURSTING ON AND GET, UH, SERVICE RESTORED THERE, AS WELL AS, UH, RELOCATE A SEWER LINE OFF OF JACKSON STREET, UH, WHERE WE HAD SOME, UH, HOLES IN THE SEWER LINE THAT WE, WE WERE ABLE TO HELP OUT WITH. 
          ADDITIONALLY, WE, UH, WE DID WRAP UP ON SOME OF THE DATA COLLECTION, OR FINISH, EXCUSE ME, SOME OF THE SMOKE TESTING. 
          UH, WE ARE, WE'VE NOW COMPLETED OUR ENTIRE, UH, SMOKE TESTING THROUGHOUT THE CITY. 
          UH, SO WE, WE'VE WRAPPED THAT UP AND, UH, WE CONTINUE TO DO OUR, OUR SEWER MAIN AND MANHOLE INSPECTIONS, KINDA MOVING INTO OUR BUDGET ON THE OPERATIONS END OF THINGS. 
          UH, IT'S HELD PRETTY CONSTANT, UH, WITH A LITTLE BIT OF DEVIATIONS PRIMARILY IN THE PROGRAM MANAGEMENT AND THE SEWER OPERATIONS, WHICH ARE FOR THE MOST PART, DRIVEN BY SALARY. 
          UM, THOSE ARE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE, THAT ARE FUNDED OUTTA THE FUND. 
          UM, WE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF VACANCY AND, UM, ON THE PROGRAM MANAGEMENT SIDE, THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF VACANCY, AND NOW THOSE POSITIONS ARE FULL. 
          UH, YOU KINDA SEE THAT REBOUNDED. 
          THE CONDITION ASSESSMENT, UH, WENT DOWN A LITTLE BIT THIS YEAR. 
          WE HAD JUST A LITTLE BIT LESS INSPECTION ON FY 25, AND THEN FY 26, WE ANTICIPATE A, UM, LITTLE BIT OF ADDITIONAL PIPE AND, AND MANHOLES THAT COME OUT OF THAT, WHICH ARE CAUSING THAT TO GO KIND OF BACK INTO OUR PROJECTION. 
          AND THE REHAB IS HOLDING VERY FLAT. 
          UH, OUR TOTAL PROPOSED BUDGET IS 4.7 MILLION, LITTLE OVER 4.7 MILLION, AND LOOKING FORWARD INTO FY 26, UH, WE, WE PLAN TO COMPLETE THE FY 25 REHAB CONSTRUCTION AS WELL AS KICKOFF THE FY 26, UH, CONSTRUCTION AND COMPLETE THAT ALL WITHIN THE NEXT YEAR. 
          AND THEN, UH, ALSO KICKOFF THE FY 27 PIPE REHAB PROJECT, AS WELL AS THE, UH, SECOND PHASE OF OUR SPRING CREEK MANHOLE REHAB. 
          WE PLAN TO, UH, KICK OFF AND COMPLETE THE CONSTRUCTION OF THAT AS WELL. 
          AND, UH, KINDA MOVING FORWARD ON OUR, UH, DATA COLLECTION EFFORTS, WE'LL CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THE MAN, THE, UH, EXCUSE ME, THE WASTEWATER MAINS AND THE MANHOLES, BUT IT WILL BE MORE RISK-BASED, UH, RATHER THAN, SINCE WE'VE COMPLETED ALL THE, THE SMOKE TESTING AND KIND OF MOVING INTO THE CAPITAL SIDE OF THINGS, UH, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF RATHER LARGE PROJECTS ON THE SEWER SIDE THAT ARE ONGOING, UH, ARE, WE'RE IN THE MIDST OF OUR COTTONWOOD CREEK TRUNK MAIN REPLACEMENT PROJECT 
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IS A MULTI-YEAR KINDA STUDY AND DESIGN. 
          IT'S A, BUT IT, WE'VE GOT A RANGE IN PRICE, BUT ON THE HIGH END IT'S ABOUT $27 MILLION. 
          IT'S LOOKING AT REPLACING AN EXISTING 24 INCH CLAY TILE LINE, UM, WHICH IS UNDER CAPACITY AND HAS A LITTLE BIT OF RISK RELATED TO, UH, EROSION, UH, ALONG, UH, ALONG THE CREEK. 
          SO WE ARE LOOKING AT SOME DIFFERENT OPTIONS ON THAT. 
          UH, NOT ONLY FROM COST, BUT ALSO JUST ALIGNMENT, CONSTRUCTABILITY AND JUST GENERAL SERVICE. 
          UH, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE OUR GREENVILLE, UH, WASTEWATER AND ROAD IMPROVEMENT PROJECT. 
          WE'VE, UH, WE STARTED THE DESIGN ON, ON THIS IN, UH, JUST DID A FIRST PHASE, WHICH WAS DESIGN OF THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT, OR THE, EXCUSE ME, THE WASTEWATER MAINE FROM THE NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT, FLOYD BRANCH TREATMENT PLANT UP TO CENTENNIAL. 
          UH, THE SECOND PHASE OF WHAT WE ARE PLANNING ON DOING, OR WHAT, WHAT THE PLAN INCLUDES IS FROM CENTENNIAL TO HUFFINES, WHICH WILL INCLUDE CONTINUATION OF THE SEWER LINE AS WELL AS THE RECONSTRUCTION OF GREENVILLE FROM CENTENNIAL TO HUFFINES. 
          WE'RE GOING TO PACKAGE THAT ALL TOGETHER IN A SINGLE CONTRACT. 
          AND, UH, WE'RE REALLY HOPING WE GET THE UTILITY CONTRACTOR TO LEAD THAT. 
          IT IS LARGE DIAMETER PIPE THAT IS A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, CHALLENGING THAN, UH, JUST DOING OUR BREAD AND BUTTER IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          SO WE'RE REALLY HOPING TO GET A UTILITY CONTRACTOR TAKE THE LEAD ON THAT. 
          AND WE THINK THAT'LL HAPPEN WITH COMBINATION OF, OR THE ESCAPE, THE SCALE AND SCOPE OF THAT PROJECT. 
          AND THEN WE'VE ALSO COMPLETED A HANDFUL OF OTHER PROJECTS THAT, UH, HAD HAD CMOM RELATED ITEMS ON IT. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE SOME ONGOING ITEM, UH, PROJECTS IN CONSTRUCTION HERE IN FY 25. 
          KINDA MOVING INTO THE CAPITAL SIDE ON THE BUDGET. 
          THAT, UH, BIG NUMBER MR. MAGNER MENTIONED A LITTLE BIT AGO, WELL, HERE'S THE HOOK , YOU CAN KIND OF SEE, UM, FY 23, 24, 25, THOSE NUMBERS WERE KIND OF GOING DOWN AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN IT KIND OF SWINGS UP. 
          AND BRAD MENTIONED IT A LITTLE BIT EARLIER IN HIS PRESENTATION. 
          WE WERE DIVERTING A LOT OF THAT FUNDING TO THE A 25 PROJECT TO FUND THAT. 
          AND THAT WAS, THAT'S A VERY LARGE PROJECT. 
          UH, CERTAINLY THE LARGEST UTILITY PROJECT WE HAVE ONGOING. 
          UH, BUT THAT IS WINDING DOWN BY THE END OF THE CALENDAR YEAR. 
          THAT SHOULD BE PRETTY MUCH DONE, IF NOT COMPLETELY, UH, DONE AT THIS POINT, WHICH OPENS UP THE, THE FUNDING AND THE PENDULUM'S KIND OF SWINGING BACK THE OTHER WAY FOR US TO GET, UH, GET MORE RIGHT-SIDED ON THE WASTEWATER SIDE OF THINGS. 
          UM, WHAT YOU, WHAT YOU DO SEE HERE, UH, BIG CHUNK OF THE WASTEWATER MAIN REPLACEMENT IS GOING TO KIND OF FUND THE COTTONWOOD, UH, THE COTTONWOOD CREEK TRUNK MAIN THAT I MENTIONED BEFORE, AS WELL AS THE GREENVILLE, UH, WASTEWATER IMPROVEMENTS. 
          AND THEN, UH, AS YOU MOVE DOWN INTO THE MANHOLE AND LIFT STATION REPLACEMENT, THAT, THAT BIG NUMBER IS KIND OF JUMPING THERE BECAUSE WE ARE LOOKING TO DECOMMISSION TWO LIFT STATIONS WITH THAT AS WELL. 
          UH, THERE'S A COLLINS LIFT STATION AND A MEREDITH LIFT STATION. 
          UH, WE ARE, WE'RE PLANNING ON GETTING BOTH THOSE OUTTA COMMISSION IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. 
          AND THAT WE PUT OUR TOTAL CO ISSUANCE FOR SEWER AT A LITTLE OVER $4.6 MILLION, OR EXCUSE ME, $14.6 MILLION. 
          AND THEN ONCE AGAIN, LOOKING AHEAD AT FY 26, UH, WE ARE LOOKING TO CONTINUE THE, UH, COTTONWOOD CREEK TRUNK MAIN PROJECT, AS WELL AS WRAP UP THE DESIGN, UM, EXCUSE ME, CONTINUE THE DESIGN ALSO FOR GREENVILLE. 
          UH, AND THEN WRAP. 
          WE DO HAVE SOME OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE WRAPPING UP WITH OUR, UH, LAWN MEADOW, GLENVILLE, SHERMAN LINCO, AND JOHNSON TATUM. 
          AND THEN, UH, WE DO HAVE SOME THAT ARE STARTING CONSTRUCTION AND WILL END IN THAT SAME TIMEFRAME AS WELL WITH RICHLAND PARK, LAKESIDE BOULEVARD. 
          UM, UNFORTUNATELY CUSTER IS, UH, EVEN THOUGH IT'S ON SCHEDULE, IT'S STILL GONNA GO, UH, PAST THE NEXT FI NEXT FISCAL YEAR. 
          AND THEN, UH, WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO OUR MANHOLE, UH, REHAB, AND THAT'S JUST KIND OF AN ONGOING EFFORT THAT YOU'LL CONTINUE TO SEE OUT OF OUR DEPARTMENT, AS WELL AS WRAP UP THE TWO LIFT STATION DECOMMISSIONINGS. 
          AND AS WE LOOK AT OUR NEXT STEPS, UH, WE'LL, WE'LL FINALIZE OUR WATER AND WASTEWATER MAINTENANCE PROGRAM AS THE WATER AND SEWER RATES ARE FINALIZED AND THE CITY MANAGER PREPARES TO FILE THE BUDGET, WE'LL LOOK AT UTILIZING THE CONDITION ASSESSMENT FINDINGS TO IMPROVE THE WASTEWATER SYSTEM FOR CMOM PROGRAM IMPLEMENTATION AND CONTINUE THE CAPITAL PROGRAMS FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER ACCORDING TO THE PROPOSED ANNUAL SEAL ISSUANCE. 
          AND AT THIS TIME, I'M GLAD TO FIELD ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, BEFORE THAT, UM, I JUST WANNA REMIND THE COUNCIL AND, AND, AND, AND, UH, ANYONE WATCHING. 
          SO THE CMOM PROGRAM WAS A MANDATE FROM THE, UH, EPA, UH, THAT WAS, UM, ADDRESSED TO THE NORTH TEXAS PERMISSIBLE WATER DISTRICT AND ALL OF ITS MEMBER CITIES AND, AND MANY OF ITS CUSTOMER CITIES. 
          AND SO THE RESTORATION OF THAT FUNDING ON THAT, UH, FIRST LINE THAT NICK REFERRED TO IS AN IMPORTANT WAY FOR US TO GET BACK ON TRACK, IF YOU WILL, 
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AND MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE BEING RESPONSIVE TO THE DIRECTIVES THAT WE HAD. 
          UM, EVERY CITY IN, UM, IN THE NORTH TEXAS MISSILE WATER DISTRICT, EVERY MEMBER CITY, UM, IS, UM, IS WORKING HARD TOGETHER TO REDUCE I AND I AND TO REALLY, UM, MAKE IT A SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT IN THIS WAY. 
          UH, THERE WAS A REASON WHY THE EPA CAME DOWN TO NORTH DALLAS, UH, NORTH TEXAS AND, AND PICK THE WATER DISTRICT. 
          AND, UM, BUT I, I BELIEVE WE'VE MADE SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS AS A REGION, AND I KNOW WE HAVE AS A CITY, UH, SINCE I GUESS WHAT ERIC, ABOUT 2016 OR SO NOW. 
          UM, BUT YEAH, 2016. 
          SO JUST AS A REMINDER THAT THAT'S AN, THAT'S AN IMPORTANT LINE ITEM, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A BIG LINE ITEM, IT'S AN IMPORTANT LINE ITEM TO, TO RESTORE AND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, UM, MEETING OUR OBLIGATION UNDER THAT CMOM. 
          ALRIGHT, COUNCIL MEMBER MORRIS. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UM, NICK, JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS. 
          YOU USED A COUPLE TERMS, I WASN'T, YOU SAID DECOMMISSIONING LIFT STATIONS. 
          ARE THESE BECAUSE THEY'RE BEING REPLACED OR BECAUSE OF EFFICIENCIES ELSEWHERE THAT WE'RE GONNA DECOMMISSION THEM? NO, I, I, I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. 
          YES. 
          I SHOULD HAVE BEEN A LITTLE BIT MORE TO DESCRIP. 
          WHAT DECOMMISSIONING MEANS IS RIGHT NOW, THERE, THERE ARE LIFT STATIONS THAT THERE'S A SUMP THAT HAS TO PUMP TO A POINT AND THEN GRAVITY. 
          WHAT WE ARE, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS WE ARE GOING TO RELAY GRAVITY LINE, UM, THAT WILL NO LONGER NEED THE LIFT STATION. 
          SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO TAKE THEM OUTTA SERVICE AND COMPLETELY REMOVE THEM FROM THE SYSTEM, AND THEY'LL, THEY'LL FUNCTION LIKE THE REST OF OUR GRAVITY SYSTEM. 
          SO BASICALLY WE'RE GONNA TAKE THE PIPE FURTHER BACK AND JUST KIND OF ANGLE IT BETTER. 
          YES, SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THAT, THAT, UNFORTUNATELY, WHAT HAPPENS THROUGH TIME, JUST THE WAY DEVELOPMENT HAPPENS, SOMETIMES THAT INFRASTRUCTURE'S NOT THERE, SO LIFT STATION GETS CONSTRUCTED AND THAT, THAT HAPPENS. 
          AND NOW THAT WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, BUILT OUT NETWORK, THERE IS OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO BE ABLE TO, UH, RELAY THAT LINE, RELOCATE IT, AND, AND TAKE THOSE OUT OF OUR SYSTEM. 
          OKAY. 
          MANHOLES, UH, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT NOW, OBVIOUSLY I, YEAH, SOMEBODY DOESN'T KNOW AS WELL AS YOU DO. 
          OBVIOUSLY MANHOLE IS, I, I THINK AT THE COVER, BUT OBVIOUSLY IN YOUR, IN YOUR GRAPHIC, IT SHOWS ENTIRE, THE ROOM UNDERNEATH THE HOLE THAT WE ALL KNOW IS DRIVING DOWN THE STREET. 
          SO IS IT THAT'S ACTUALLY GONNA BE REPLACED IS THAT WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT REPLACING MANHOLES, WE'RE NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT THE COVER AND RESTRUCTURING WHERE THE STREET, BUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT'S UNDERNEATH THE STREET WITH OUR REHAB, THAT CAN TAKE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT FORMS AND IT DEPENDS ON THE CONDITION OF THE MANHOLE. 
          UH, SOME OF IT WE PUT A COATING IN THERE TO, TO ADDRESS IT IF IT'S NOT, UH, TOO BAD, IF THERE'S JUST SOME SUPERFICIAL, UH, DAMAGE THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. 
          UM, AND THEN WE DO ON THE OTHER END OF THE SPECTRUM IS REPLACEMENT OF THE MANHOLE WHERE WE LITERALLY DIG IT UP AND REPLACE IT IN ITS ENTIRETY. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I HAVE TWO QUICK QUESTIONS, BRAD. 
          THERE WAS SOMETHING YOU TALKED ABOUT, UM, TURBINE METERS VERSUS ULTRASONIC METERS. 
          CAN YOU KIND OF TELL US WHAT AN ULTRASONIC METER IS? UH, AS I UNDERSTAND THE, THE ULTRASONIC METER IS GONNA BE MORE ACCURATE. 
          UH, WHAT IS IT? I MEAN, UH, SO IT'S A METER'S GONNA MEASURE FLOW AND SO TURBINE METERS HAVE MECHANICAL PARTS THAT CAN WEAR OUT OVER TIME. 
          ULTRASONIC, UH, IS GONNA, IS GONNA BE, IT'S GOT NO MOVING PARTS AS I UNDERSTAND. 
          IT'LL PROVIDE MORE ACCURATE READING LAST LONGER. 
          IT, IT SHOOTS A ULTRASONIC WAVE ACROSS AND AT TIMES HOW FAST IT TAKES TO GO ACROSS AND THAT HELPS THEM MEASURE THE FLOW. 
          COOL. 
          UH, YOU MENTIONED, UM, REPLACING MAINS, AND I KNOW I LIVE NEAR THE ONE THAT WAS JUST REPLACING DALHART, AND I KNOW IN DALHART, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S THE UNDERGROUND STUFF THAT, UH, THE PIPES AND VALVES AND ALL THAT. 
          UH, BUT THEN THERE'S THE ROAD WHEN WE LOOK AT COSTS WHEN, WHEN THEY SHOULDN'T DONE THIS. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHO WHO'D ASKED THIS TO, BUT WHEN WE LOOK AT COST OF SOMETHING LIKE THAT, IT, ARE YOU SHOWING US JUST WHAT I GUESS THE LABOR AND MATERIAL COSTS, UH, UNDER THE ROAD? OR IS THAT INCLUDE THE RESURFACING AND SOME OF THAT WORK THAT MIGHT FALL UNDER A DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT? UH, CORRECT. 
          IT'S GOING TO INCLUDE AT LEAST THE, THE, THE PAVING. 
          AND WHAT WOULD BE CONS? WHAT WOULD YOU WOULD REMOVE TO LAY THE PIPE IF THERE ARE ADDITIONAL PAVING IMPROVEMENTS? THOSE WOULD POTENTIALLY COME FROM A, A STREET BUDGET. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SOUNDS GOOD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER CORCORAN, THE UTILITY FUND DEBT CAPITAL PLAN WASTEWATER SLIDE WHERE YOU HAVE THE, JUST THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF CO YEP. 
          SO YOU JUST, OR SORRY, SO ONE WHERE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CO ISSUANCE? YEAH. 
          PERFECT. 
          UM, JUST QUICK, YOU, SO YOU GUYS HAD HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT HOW YOU REDUCED THIS AMOUNT TO MAKE WAY FOR, UM, THE BIG THE 8 25. 
          8 25, I GONNA SAY EIGHT. 
          I I WANTED TO GET THE NUMBER RIGHT. 
          8 25 PROJECT. 
          SO WHAT WAS IT BEFORE FY 23? LIKE WHAT ARE WE, WHAT WAS IT REDUCED DOWN FROM AND HOW'S THAT COMPARED TO WHAT WE'RE BRINGING IT BACK UP TO? DO Y'ALL HAVE LIKE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE LIKE A PERFECT NUMBER JUST IN 
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GENERAL, WHAT WAS IT, LIKE 10 MILLION BEFORE WHEN WE, WHEN, WHEN IN THE EARLY DAYS OF THE CMOM, WE WERE SPENDING, UM, PROBABLY CLOSER TO ABOUT FOUR TO FOUR AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU KIND OF JUST DO THE MATH THAT'S AH, SEE $5 MILLION OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS THAT WE'VE NOT SPENT THAT WE WOULD'VE AS WE WERE AVERAGING. 
          UM, AND IT DID FLUCTUATE A LITTLE BIT. 
          SO IN THE EARLY DAYS OF THE CMM WE WERE STUDYING AND THEN CREATING A LIST OF PROJECTS. 
          NOW WE HAVE ALL THE PROJECTS WE CAN STAND . 
          UM, AND SO WE WERE STUDYING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DOING LESS OF THE, THE STUDY WORK, BUT, UM, YEAH, I WOULD, IN, IN, IN AROUND 1819 ISH WHEN WE HAD COMPLETED THE FIRST FEW YEARS OF THE ANALYSIS, IT WAS PROBABLY ABOUT FOUR TO FOUR AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS. 
          OKAY. 
          YEP. 
          NO, THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING THAT, THAT, THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER SEL. 
          THANK YOU MR. MAYOR, AND THANK YOU NICK FOR YOUR GREAT PRESENTATION. 
          I DO HAVE FEW QUESTION, UH, SURE. 
          UH, JUST TO GET SOME CLARIFICATION. 
          AND ALSO I'M GLAD THAT, UH, DAN ASKED SOME OF THAT TECHNICAL QUESTION. 
          I'M REALLY SURPRISED THAT, NOT SURPRISED. 
          I, I HAD NO SURPRISE THAT HIS ABILITY, BUT I'M GLAD THAT HE ASKED THOSE QUESTIONS. 
          I'M JUST GONNA PUT THAT NICE WAY. 
          UH, UH, AND ALSO I'M GLAD THAT YOU HAVE REDUCED, YOU KNOW, SPENDING ON THE CONDITION ASSESSMENT AND INCREASE ON THE ACTUAL WORK. 
          I MEAN, NOT THAT, YOU KNOW, REDUCING BUDGET FOR THE CONDITION ASSESSMENT IS, YOU KNOW, I MEAN THAT, THAT THING IS IMPORTANT. 
          UH, BUT YOU KNOW, WITH LIMITED BUDGET, I THINK THIS IS HOW IT'S IMPORTANT THAT SHIFTING BUDGET FOR DOING ACTUAL WORK AND FINDING THIS INSTEAD OF FINDING AND FINDING AND FINDING AND GO NOWHERE. 
          UH, SO I SEE THAT YOU HAVE DONE, UM, YOU KNOW, LOTS OF SMOKE TEST. 
          I'VE SEEN TRUCK MOVING AROUND WITH THE SIGN SMOKE TEST. 
          YES, SIR. 
          IN PROGRESS. 
          AND I HAVE SEEN ON THE FEATURES AND TODAY SOME OF THE ARTICLE. 
          SO WHAT KIND OF, UH, DEFECT YOU'RE FINDING? IT'S JUST FOR PEOPLE TO SEE THAT WHY THEY'RE DOING THE SMOKE TEST, I MEAN, HUH. 
          UM, WE HAVE CLAYT TILE PIPE, WHICH THAT, UH, WHERE WE HAVE CONDITION, WE, WE LOOK AT TRYING DO A-C-I-P-P LINER WHEN POSSIBLE. 
          UH, PIPE BURST IF CONDITIONS ARE RIGHT ON THAT FRONT. 
          UH, I MEAN, WE GET EVERYTHING FROM DAMAGED JOINTS TO CRACKED PIPE. 
          ALL CLAY TILE IS VERY BRITTLE. 
          UH, AND THAT JUST LENDS ITS HAND TO A LOT OF, UH, INI. 
          WE, UH, I STILL THINK FOR THE, FOR THE MOST PART, I, I DON'T, WE HAVEN'T REALLY COME ACROSS ANY CROSS CONNECTIONS OR ANYTHING ALONG THOSE LINES. 
          MOST OF IT'S, UH, IT'S PIPE CONDITION ON, ON THE CLAY TILE IS WHERE MAJORITY OF OUR, OUR EFFORTS ARE. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S GOOD THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE THAT CROSS CONNECTION BETWEEN THE STORM AND THE SEWER. 
          UH, SOME CITIES THEY HAVE THOSE THING, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE MAJOR SOURCE OF YNI. 
          UH, BUT I'M SURE YOU CAN, YOU, YOU FIND PROBABLY SOME OF THE CLEAN OUT BEING EXPOSED ON THEIR FRONTIER YES. 
          CAPS. 
          SO IF SOMEONE FIND THAT THEY HAVE THEIR CLEAN OUT OPEN AND IT'S DEEP RESTED, SO, AND THE RAIN WATER GOES INTO THAT. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, JUST BE CAREFUL ON THOSE AND JUST, UH, CLOSE THAT THING UP. 
          OTHERWISE, WE ARE PAYING LOT MORE TO TREAT THAT WASTEWATER OR THE RAINWATER VERSUS THE ACTUAL GETTING THE WATER. 
          SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO CLOSE THOSE THING. 
          AND, UH, BASICALLY IT'S FINDING THAT ION I SOURCE. 
          UH, SO NOW SINCE SOME OF THE WORK HAS BEEN DONE, DO YOU LIKE FOLLOW UP WITH THAT? HOW MUCH INI HAS BEEN REDUCED? ANY KIND OF NUMBER? DO YOU HAVE THAT? NOT THAT WE HAVE NOT DONE ANY ADDITIONAL FLOW MONITORINGS YET IN THE BASINS THAT WE'VE ALREADY TOUCHED. 
          SO TO SEE A REDUCTION IN WHAT THE PEAKING FACTOR IS FOR THOSE BASINS, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TANGIBLE. 
          UH, BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T DONE ANY FOLLOW UP FLOW MONITORING AT THAT POINT. 
          WE'VE BEEN KIND OF GETTING OUTTA THAT CYCLE AND GETTING THROUGH THE GATE OF, UH, WRAPPING UP THE ANALYSES AND SUCH. 
          UH, WE WILL, WE'LL LOOK AT STARTING TO DO A SECOND ORBIT AND GETTING BACK IN THERE AND DOING SOME FOLLOW UP FLOW, UH, FLOW MONITORING TESTING. 
          UH, BUT YEAH, THE SMOKE TESTING, WHICH LIKE YOU MENTIONED BEFORE, THAT IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST USEFUL TOOLS FOR FINDING THE CAPS ON THE CLEAN OUTS. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, FOR WHERE THEY'RE MISSING. 
          NO, THAT'S GREAT. 
          I THINK, UH, FLOW MONITORING IS EXPENSIVE. 
          UH, I DO UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          BUT OTHER THING YOU COULD PROBABLY LOOK AT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE PAY SOMEONE ELSE TO TREAT OUR WASTEWATER. 
          SO IF THAT NUMBER CHANGE, ACTUALLY NOT THAT DOLLAR WISE, BECAUSE THAT DOLLAR GOES UP A LOT EVERY YEAR. 
          UH, BUT IF THE VOLUME GOES DOWN OR STAYS THE SAME OR SOMEWHERE, THEN WE CAN PROBABLY SAY THAT SOMETHING IS HAPPENING. 
          BUT MAYBE WE HAVE NOT DONE THAT MUCH MEASURE PREPARE, UH, NOW FOR THE MANHOLE REHAB, THE QUESTION THAT DAN, 
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UH, COUNCIL MEMBER BARRIO ASKED, UH, SO, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE REGION, WHAT ARE THE REGION THAT YOU ARE DOING THE MANHOLE REHAB IMAGE? THIS IS, UH, IS THAT BECAUSE THE MANHOLE HAS BEEN BUILT IN THE PAST? ALL THE BRICK MANHOLES AND LOTS OF INI IS COMING FROM THE WALL OR FROM THE BENCH? UH, SO ARE YOU FINDING THOSE, THERE, THERE ARE SOME, SOME BRICK, UM, AND THEN IT'S JUST GENERAL CONDITION. 
          A LOT OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE IS VERY, VERY AGED AND WE ARE HITTING LIFECYCLE AND IT JUST, UM, WE HAVE LEAKS AND CHIMNEY SEALS, THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED, REHABBED AS PART OF THAT AS WELL TO CUT DOWN, UH, RINGING COVERS. 
          UH, YEAH, THERE'S, IT'S A MIXED BAG. 
          WE FIND JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING. 
          AND THE WHOLE GOAL IS TO STOP UP EVERY HOLE THAT WE CAN AND MAKE IT AS TIGHT AS POSSIBLE. 
          AND IT, HAVING AN AGENT SYSTEM LIKE WE HAVE, IT, IT, YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GONNA FIND . 
          IT, YOU KNOW, IT DOES TAKE A LOT OF DIFFERENT FORMS. AND THANK YOU FOR DOING SO. 
          UH, NOW I SEE THAT YOU'RE DOING IN-HOUSE OR PLAN TO DO IN-HOUSE MODELING. 
          IS THAT FOR WATER AND ALSO WASTEWATER? I GUESS THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR BRAD. 
          UH, YEAH. 
          RIGHT NOW WE'RE, UH, PLANNING TO JUST DO THE WATER MODELING. 
          OKAY. 
          IN-HOUSE. 
          WE DO HAVE A SANITARY SEWER HYDRAULIC MODEL, UH, AND WE HAVE A CONTRACT FOR THOSE ANALYSIS. 
          NO, THAT'S GREAT. 
          HAVING THAT IN-HOUSE IS REALLY VERY GREAT THING BECAUSE WHENEVER YOU DO SOME CHANGE, YOU CAN TWEAK IT BEFORE CHANGING INSTEAD OF MAKING THE CALL AND WAIT FOR SOMEONE TO GIVE YOU THE RESULT. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, REALLY GOOD FORWARD LOOKING DECISION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, A FEW DIFFERENT QUESTIONS. 
          UH, JUST STARTING WITH, UH, THE GRAPHIC ON SLIDE 22 OF THE STORM CROSS SECTIONS AND MANHOLES. 
          AND, UM, I JUST FOUND THAT TO BE A REALLY INSTRUCTIVE SLIDE, SO THANK YOU. 
          UH, 'CAUSE IT REALLY DOES DO A GREAT JOB POINTING OUT ALL THE DIFFERENT PLACES AND ALL THE DIFFERENT WAYS, UH, THAT THINGS CAN GO WRONG, UH, IN THE, UM, IN THE EXISTING SEWER SYSTEM. 
          UH, AND, AND COUNCIL MEMBER SHAM HAD BROUGHT UP, UH, SOME STUFF ABOUT THE UNCAPPED CLEANOUT, WHICH WAS SOMETHING THAT JUMPED OUT AT ME AND AS OPPOSED TO ASKING HIS QUESTION AGAIN, UH, UH, 'CAUSE YOU ANSWERED IT. 
          UH, I AM CURIOUS IS IN THIS IMAGE, IT LOOKS LIKE MOST OF THE TIME THAT CLEANOUT IS ON THE RESIDENT SIDE VERSUS ON, UH, ANYTHING THAT'S ON OUR SIDE. 
          IS THAT, IS THAT FAIR? YES, SIR. 
          UH, WHAT IS, WHAT'S CHALLENGING WITH THE MANAGING THE CMOM PROGRAM IS THERE'S A LOT OF CONNECTION THAT IS OUTSIDE OF OUR RIGHT OF WAY ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. 
          RIGHT? SO WHAT YOU CAN ALSO SEE IS THE SERVICE LINE COMING UP TO THE HOUSE WHERE THE TREE ROOTS ARE. 
          YEP. 
          THAT OFTENTIMES HAPPENS OUTSIDE THE RIGHT OF WAY. 
          SO THE TREE ROOTS GET IN THERE, THEY JUST, THEY PULL JOINTS APART. 
          UH, THEY DO A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ALSO OPEN UP WATER. 
          UH, CLEAN OUTS GET, A LOT OF TIMES THEY GET CLIPPED BY A LAWNMOWER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND THEY GET EITHER BROKEN OR DISLODGED. 
          UH, AND THEN WE DON'T, UH, WE DON'T ALWAYS, WE DON'T CAMERA UP THE SERVICE LINE. 
          SO ANYBODY THAT WOULD TIE THEIR GUTTERS INTO THE SERVICE LINE, WHICH IS ALSO A CONNECTION THAT YOU SEE THERE, THE DOWN THE ROOF DRAIN CONNECTION, UH, THAT'S ANOTHER SOURCE THAT WE, UH, HOPE ISN'T THERE. 
          UM, BUT THAT IS ONE OTHER SOURCE. 
          ONCE AGAIN, THESE ARE ALL ON PRIVATE PROPERTY OUTSIDE OF OUR, OUTSIDE OF OUR PROPERTY TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN. 
          SO IT MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT CHALLENGING. 
          AND, UH, TO GET DOWN TO A PEAK, UH, A PEAKING FACTOR OF ONE IS REALLY NOT REALISTIC. 
          IT'S THE SYSTEM'S ALWAYS GONNA HAVE CERTAIN THINGS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF OUR CONTROL. 
          UM, AND IF WE FIND THINGS, WE WOULD HAVE CODE ENFORCEMENT HELP US ENFORCE THAT IF IT'S OUTSIDE OF OUR PROPERTY. 
          AND THEN WE, WE KNEW ABOUT IT. 
          BUT IT, IT'S A CHALLENGE BECAUSE A BIG PART OF THE SYSTEM THAT CONTRIBUTES IS OUTSIDE OF THE RIGHT OF WAY AND OUTSIDE OF OUR, OUR CONTROL AND MANAGEMENT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO I, I AM A LITTLE BIT CURIOUS ABOUT THAT. 
          THAT WAS THE OTHER THING THAT JUMPED OUT AT ME ON THIS IMAGE WAS THE ROOF DRAIN CONNECTING INTO THE SEWER LINE. 
          DO WE FEEL LIKE THIS IS A PRACTICE THAT IS NO. 
          THAT DON'T BELIEVE WIDELY USED? NO. 
          IT, IT'S NOT. 
          AND IT WAS NOT, IT WAS SOMETHING THAT REALLY, I THINK IT'S A POSSIBILITY. 
          IT, IT'S A POSSIBILITY. 
          AND IT WAS SOMETHING, I THINK THAT WAS MORE ABOUT A HALF A CENTURY AGO OR SO, THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE COMMON PRACTICE. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT IT IS, IT HASN'T BEEN FOR A LONG TIME. 
          UH, WE WOULD, IF WE DID RUN ACROSS THAT, I THINK WE WOULD EXPECT IT IN SOME OF THE OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          FAIR ENOUGH. 
          THAT, UH, KIND OF CAME IN AT THAT TIME. 
          SO ON THE CLEANOUTS, I, I DON'T KNOW HOW SIGNIFICANT A SOURCE OF KIND OF, UH, ADDITIONAL WATER INTO OUR SEWER SYSTEM THAT CAN BE, UH, OR IF THERE'S BEEN ANY KIND OF THEORIES OR ANYTHING, UH, BUILT YET ON, ON WHAT THAT COULD BE. 
          BUT IT, IT JUMPS OUT AT ME AS SOMETHING THAT, AND I, I DON'T KNOW THAT I'VE EVER SEEN IT, ALTHOUGH MAYBE WE HAVE, BUT WHETHER IT BECOME, UH, SOMETHING WE DO FROM AN EDUCATION PERSPECTIVE OR WHAT HAVE YOU, QUITE FRANKLY, THOSE 
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ARE NOT REAL EXPENSIVE COVERS. 
          AND IT FEELS LIKE TO ME, YOU KNOW, FOR FIVE BUCKS A COVER OR WHATEVER, UH, YOU CAN ALMOST DO A SEWER, I MEAN, A CLEAN OUT CAP GIVEAWAY, UH, THAT MIGHT A HELP OUR RESIDENTS NOT GET THEIR PIPES CLOGGED BY DIRT RUNNING INTO IT. 
          UH, BUT SEPARATELY, UH, THE IMPACT THAT IT HAS ON, ON OUR SYSTEM AS WELL PROBABLY WOULD BE CONSIDERABLY GREATER THAN THE $5 OR HOWEVER MUCH THOSE CAPS ARE. 
          UH, HAVE WE, HAVE WE DONE SOMETHING LIKE ANY OF THAT KIND OF EDUCATION BEFORE, SPECIFICALLY ON SEWER, SEWER CAPS OR ANY OF THAT SORT? I'M NOT SURE IF WE'VE DONE ANYTHING TO THAT EXTENT. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT I GUESS, UH, IF I MAY JUST FINISH UP WHAT WE DID WHEN WE WERE DOING THE SMOKE TESTING, THE COMPANY THAT WE HAD DO THAT, WE ALSO PROVIDED THEM A BAG OF THE CLEAN OUT COVERS. 
          SO AS THEY WERE IDENTIFYING THEM, GREAT. 
          THEY WOULD, THEY WOULD REPLACE THEM. 
          NOW, THAT IS ONLY GONNA BE LIMITED TO THE BASINS THAT WE'RE WORKING IN AT THAT POINT. 
          YEAH. 
          WHICH IS ONLY A PART, I THINK WE DID HALF OF THE, UH, UH, ROLLETTE CREEK BASIN LAST YEAR. 
          SO THAT'S ONE LOCALIZED AREA. 
          AND WE HAVE BEEN DOING THAT AS WE'VE BEEN PROGRESSING WITH THE SMOKE TESTING. 
          BUT I'D LIKE YOUR IDEA ON THE GIVEAWAY, 'CAUSE I THINK YOU ARE CORRECT ON THAT FRONT. 
          AND THEN JUST ONE OTHER THING WITH THE CLEAN OUTS, THEY DO TEND TO FALL RIGHT ABOUT THE EVE LINE OF THE HOUSE . 
          YEAH. 
          WHICH FROM A DRAINAGE STANDPOINT, RAIN SHEDS OFF THE ROOF AND IT KIND OF FALLS RIGHT IN LINE WITH THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          YES, SIR. 
          WELL, I, I LIKE YOUR IDEA BETTER, WHICH IS YOU'RE JUST GOING AHEAD AND REPLACING 'EM AS YOU SEE 'EM, WHICH AGAIN, PROBABLY IS, IS MUCH, UH, MUCH BETTER FOR US. 
          UH, IN TERMS OF JUST THE SPEED OF RECOVERY, YOU HAD MENTIONED THE LIFT STATION CLOSING AND, AND APPRECIATED THE CONVER. 
          UH, THE QUESTION THERE BY COUNCILMAN BARRIOS, DOES THAT REPRESENT ALSO SOME LEVEL OF OPERATING SAVINGS AS YOU CLOSE A LIFT STATION LIKE THAT? AND DO WE HAVE ANY KIND OF QUANTIFICATION OF WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE? I GUESS I, I WILL DEFER TO BRAD, BUT IT SHOULD SAVE US IN, UM, SERVICE CALLS AND ELECTRICITY AT A MINIMUM. 
          BUT, UH, I'LL, I'LL DEFER TO PUBLIC SERVICES. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE CAN TRY TO QUANTIFY. 
          BUT IN ADDITION TO, UH, THE SERVICE CALLS, IT'S, YOU KNOW, UH, MAN, MAN, MAN HOURS, UH, FOR ANY TYPE OF ELECTRICAL ISSUE ISSUE WITH A PUMP, WE GOTTA PULL IT AND SEND IT OUT AND GET REPAIRS, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          SO ALL OF THOSE MECHANICAL AND ELECTRICAL, UH, COMPONENTS THEN WOULD BE ELIMINATED FROM THE SYSTEM AND WE WOULD JUST BE STRICTLY ON A GRAVITY SYSTEM. 
          PERFECT. 
          UH, IT JUST FEELS LIKE A, A, A GOOD NEWS STORY FROM AN INNOVATION PERSPECTIVE, OR AT LEAST FROM AN, UH, UH, ADAPTING, UH, PERSPECTIVE THAT I'D LOVE TO SEE US, UH, UH, PERHAPS LOOK AT OR HIGHLIGHT. 
          UM, BRAD, YOU HAD ALSO TALKED A BIT ABOUT THE, UM, UNKNOWN METALS, UH, AND THAT SORT OF THING. 
          AND, AND OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE TO KIND OF MENTION THAT IT COULD BE LEAD, BUT JUST FROM YOUR EXPERIENCE THUS FAR, IS THERE A PERCENTAGE THUS FAR THAT WE'VE DISCOVERED ARE LEAD AS WE'RE FINALLY STARTING TO KIND OF ZERO IN ON THOSE? UH, CERTAINLY. 
          UH, SO FAR WE'VE ENCOUNTERED ZERO, UH, LEAD SERVICE LINES. 
          UM, WE HAVE, UM, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF FOUR DOZEN OR SO, UH, OF THE GALVANIZED LINES. 
          UM, SO WE ARE NOTIFYING RESIDENTS, UH, OF THAT MATERIAL AS WELL AS WE FIND, UH, GALVANIZED LINES ON THE CITY ON SIDE. 
          WE WE'RE, WE ARE DEVELOPING A PLAN TO REPLACE THOSE, UH, IN ADVANCE OF THE, THE 10 YEAR WINDOW THAT THE EPA ALLOWS US. 
          WE'D LIKE TO GET THAT ADDRESSED. 
          WONDERFUL. 
          LAST QUESTION. 
          YOU HAD MENTIONED THE, THE DIFFERENT METERS THAT ARE, UH, SPREAD THROUGHOUT THE CITY. 
          AND I KNOW THERE WAS THE TALK OF THE ULTRASONIC VERSUS, UM, UH, THE IMPELLER TYPE. 
          WHAT ARE WE DOING FROM A DATA COLLECTION PERSPECTIVE ON THAT DATA? WHAT ARE WE DOING FROM A DATA MODELING AND THAT SORT OF THING AS IT RELATES TO WHAT WE'RE FINDING? UH, DOES THIS HELP US WITH ANOMALY DETECTION OR ANY OF THAT SORT OF THING SO THAT WE KNOW THAT SOMETHING WEIRD IS HAPPENING WHEN IT HAPPENS? WE DO HAVE A METER TESTING PROGRAM THAT HELP TO DETERMINE THE ACCURACY OF THE METERS. 
          UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE DO MUCH ELSE. 
          THE METER REPLACEMENT PROGRAM TRIES TO ENSURE THAT WE KEEP THE METERS IN RELATIVELY GOOD CONDITION, NEW CONDITION. 
          THEY TEND TO BE MORE ACCURATE WHEN THEY'RE NEWER, OBVIOUSLY. 
          UH, SO THAT'S THE POINT OF THE PROGRAM. 
          I, WE DON'T DO ANYTHING WITH ANY OF THE DATA WE RECEIVE FROM THAT. 
          IS IT, IS IT A, IS IT A, LIKE A PHYSICAL READ OR IS IT A, SOMETHING THAT, UH, IS CONNECTED BY A IOT THAT GETS YOU DATA BACK? SO THE, THERE WILL BE A RADIO READ NOW. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, THAT'S THE, UM, THE DATA COLLECTORS THAT WE'VE GOT OUT RIGHT NOW, WE'RE TESTING, WE'VE GOT, EACH OF THE METERS THAT WE'VE, UH, REPLACED HAVE AN ANTENNA INSIDE THE METER BOX. 
          AND THAT IS, UH, OUR DATA COLLECTORS THEN ARE SENDING OUT A SIGNAL AND READING FROM THOSE ANTENNAS. 
          AND SO, UH, WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT THAT GOOD LINE OF SIGHT CONNECTION SO WE CAN READ EVERYTHING. 
          OKAY. 
          PERFECT. 
          UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, DORIAN, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? YES, I DID. 
          WANTED, JUST WANTED TO ADD TO PLEASE SOMETHING YOU MENTIONED ACTUALLY, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, I LOVE THAT DIAGRAM ALSO. 
          I KNOW Y'ALL 
          [02:05:01]
SHARED IT WITH US BEFORE, BUT IT, IT REALLY TELLS A FULL STORY. 
          BUT JUST WANTED TO KIND OF, UH, PLAY OFF OF WHAT OUR, OUR MAYOR WAS SAYING ABOUT THE TIE IN TO THE EXISTING SEWER. 
          IT, YOU'RE RIGHT, IT, AS WE REMODEL HOMES, I, I RARELY SEE THAT ANY LONGER. 
          I MEAN, GENERALLY SPEAKING, A GOOD WAY FOR, UH, WELL, CONSERVAT ABILITY AND ON THE EDUCATIONAL SIDE, WOULD TO TIE THOSE GUTTERS INTO A SORT OF A FRENCH DRAIN THAT HAS A POPUP, GENERALLY YOU CAN USE THAT FOR IRRIGATION. 
          OR IF NOT, IT GENERALLY RUNS OVER TO THE SEWER, UH, UH, THE WASTEWATER OR THE, UH, THE SEWER LINE TOO. 
          SO IT DISSIPATES THE WATER DEPENDING ON WHAT THE GRADE OF THE HOME IS. 
          SO I THINK ADDING ANYTHING TO THAT AS FAR AS AN EDUCATIONAL TOOL, SOMETHING, UH, AS A, FOR A POPUP FOR, FOR, UH, PEOPLE THAT ARE UPGRADING OR REPLACING OR MAYBE, UH, DEFERRING OR PUSHING WATER OUT TO SPECIFIC AREAS ALLOWS ALSO BACK THAT BACKUP TO THE CLEAN OUT. 
          SO JUST WANTED TO COMMENT ON THAT TOO, 'CAUSE I THINK IT'S A VERY GOOD POINT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UH, WILL THE SAME CREW BE AROUND FOR THE NEXT ITEM OR, UH, YES, SIR. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          WELL, IF THERE AREN'T ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, WE'LL 
          [8. REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE BOIL WATER NOTICE AFTER-ACTION UPDATE]
GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON, UH, TO ITEM EIGHT, REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE BOIL WATER NOTICE AFTER ACTION UPDATE. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MAYOR. 
          UH, ERIC ROBESON, OUR DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC SERVICES, IS GONNA LEAD THIS BRIEFING. 
          AND, UH, CHIEF VY HAS ACTUALLY, UH, STAYED AROUND, UM, TO, UH, TO BE PART OF THIS AS WELL AS HE'S BEEN, UH, INSTRUMENTAL OVER THE LAST SEVEN MONTHS OR SO, UH, WORKING, UM, ON THIS. 
          UM, BACK, UH, NOVEMBER 6TH OF LAST YEAR, WE DID HAVE A BOIL WATER NOTICE ISSUED AS A RESULT OF, UH, ISSUE THAT WE EXPERIENCED IN, UH, SOUTHWEST RICHARDSON. 
          UM, UM, WHEN I PRESENTED THE, THE, ON DECEMBER 16TH, WHEN I PRESENTED THE, UH, FINDINGS OF, UM, WHAT I BELIEVE WAS A VERY THOROUGH REVIEW OF THE SITUATION, UH, WE PROVIDED YOU, UH, WITH, UH, THREE MAIN TAKEAWAYS AND PROMISE THAT AT ABOUT THE SIX MONTH MARK, WE WOULD REPORT BACK TO YOU, UH, NOT ONLY ON THE PROGRESS THAT WE'VE MADE, BUT ON ANY, UH, REFINEMENT OF THOSE PLANS, UM, THAT HAD OCCURRED OVER THAT TIME FROM ADDITIONAL LESSONS LEARNED OR INFORMATION GATHERED. 
          AND SO, UM, ERIC IS GONNA LEAD, UH, THIS BRIEFING TONIGHT. 
          YOU'LL SEE WE'VE BEEN VERY SPECIFIC TO TIE OFF, UM, THE ACTION ITEMS THAT HE'S GOING TO REFERENCE TONIGHT, UH, TO THOSE THAT WERE HIGHLIGHTED IN THE MEMO THAT I USED IN NOVEMBER FOR THAT BRIEFING. 
          AND SO YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO FOLLOW ALONG VERY NICELY AND, UM, AND SEE, UH, EXACTLY WHAT WE'VE DONE IN RESPONSE TO THE DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE IDENTIFIED AT THAT TIME. 
          AND SO, ERIC, UH, TO YOU AND YOUR WHOLE TEAM, UH, THANKS FOR, UH, PUTTING THIS BRIEFING TOGETHER AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU TO RUN THROUGH, UH, TO RUN THROUGH THESE SLIDES. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU, MR. MAGNER, MAYOR CITY COUNCIL. 
          UH, APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO GO OVER THIS WITH YOU. 
          UM, AS DON SAID, WE COMMITTED TO COME BACK TO YOU SIX MONTHS LATER, SO I'M EXCITED TO SHARE ALL THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE SINCE THEN. 
          UM, KINDA GO OVER AN INCIDENT SUMMARY. 
          UM, TALK ABOUT THE ACCIDENTS TAKEN SINCE DECEMBER. 
          UM, SOME STAFFING ENHANCEMENTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, AND THEN THERE'S CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENTS AND STEPS IN PROGRESS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND WORKING ON. 
          UM, AND THEN OVERALL NEXT STEPS WILL BE THE OVERVIEW OF THE PRESENTATION. 
          SO, AS, AS DON MENTIONED, NOVEMBER 6TH, 2024, THE CITY HAD TO ISSUE A BULL WATER NOTICE DUE TO PRESSURE LOSS ON OUR 7 67 WEST PRESSURE PLANE. 
          UM, THE SYSTEM LOST PRESSURE BELOW, OR PRESSURE DIPPED BELOW 20 PSI FOR APPROXIMATELY FIVE MINUTES. 
          UM, DUE TO THAT CONDITION ASSESSMENT, TC CREW, TCQ REQUIRES THAT WE ISSUE THE BULL WIRE NOTICE THAT WE DID. 
          UM, ALTHOUGH THE PRESSURE WAS ONLY LOST FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, AND WE HAD SOME CONFIDENCE THAT THE SYSTEM WAS SAFE, STILL HAD TO ISSUE THAT NOTICE AFTER THE PROPER FLUSHING TESTING SAMPLING, WE WERE ABLE TO LIFT THAT NOTICE IN NOVEMBER 8TH, 2024, UH, AFTER GETTING APPROVAL FROM TCQ, WE COULD DO SO. 
          I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT IT WAS A, IT WAS A QUESTION BROUGHT UP EARLIER, UH, IN TIME AS WE WERE DISCUSSING THIS ON TESTING METHODS IN WAYS THAT WHY IT TOOK SO LONG. 
          AND, AND THE EPA ONLY HAS TWO APPROVED TESTED METHODS FOR WATER SAMPLING, AND THE SHORTEST DURATION OF TIME IS 18 HOURS. 
          UM, SO BY THE TIME YOU GET THE SYSTEMATICALLY FLUSHED SAMPLES TAKEN, SUBMITTED TO THE LAB, THAT'S WHEN THAT 18 HOUR PERIOD STARTS. 
          SO, UM, THAT'S WHAT TOOK, TOOK OUR TIME TO GET IT TO BE ABLE TO SHOW THE SYSTEM WAS SAFE FROM A SAMPLING STANDPOINT AND GET THE TCQ TO LIFT THE FULL WATER NOTICE. 
          UM, REMOVE ACTIONS TAKEN. 
          UM, AS DON MENTIONED, WE TRIED TO FOLLOW THE MEMO, BUT YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT THE SUPERVISORY CONTROL AND DATA ACQUISITION SYSTEM, WHICH IS OUR SCADA SYSTEM. 
          THAT'S WHAT MONITORS AND AND CONTROLS OUR WATER SYSTEM. 
          UH, WE WERE ABLE TO PURCHASE, IMPLEMENT, AND BEGIN TRAINING ON A NEW SYSTEM. 
          UH, WE'VE ENHANCED SOME MONITORING AND MAINTENANCE IN OUR SCADA SYSTEM COMPONENTS. 
          UH, WE'VE HAD REALLY GOOD PARTNERSHIPS AND COLLABORATIONS WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. 
          UH, WE'VE HAD TRAINING, WHICH IS ONGOING, WHICH, YOU KNOW, RELATED TO, YOU KNOW, TABLETOP EXERCISES, SOP REVIEW, UM, JUST, JUST SAFETY TRAINING PROGRAMS ARE BEING ENHANCED AND, AND PUBLIC COMMUNICATION PROTOCOLS. 
          UM, AGAIN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOME STAFFING ENHANCEMENTS. 
          UM, AND THEN WE ENGAGE WITH A WATER SYSTEM CONSULTANT TO KIND OF HELP US MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING, UH, WHAT THE INDUSTRY BEST PRACTICES ARE AS WE DO OUR CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT REVIEW. 
          UM, SO FIRST SLIDE SCADA SYSTEM PURCHASE IMPLEMENTATION. 
          SO WE IDENTIFIED AND PURCHASE A NEW SCADA SYSTEM. 
          THIS SCADA SYSTEM PROVIDES US WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE SYSTEM RELIABILITY, 
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AND IT REALLY SIMPLIFIED THE PROCESS WHEN WE GO TO UPDATE AND, UM, ADD ASSETS. 
          WE HAD A VERY COMPLEX SYSTEM BEFORE. 
          UM, THIS REALLY ALLOWS OUR GUYS TO DO THINGS MORE IN-HOUSE AND HAVE MORE USER FRIENDLINESS. 
          UM, OUR HUMAN MACHINE INTERFACE, WHICH IS THE SCREEN THAT THE OPERATORS INTERACT WITH AND CONTROL THE, THE PUMPS AND CONTROL THAT, UM, WHICH IS THE HMI SCREENS, UM, WE'RE DEVELOPED TO INCLUDE HIGH PERFORMANCE GRAPHICS. 
          AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS WE ONLY WANNA SEE WHAT'S IMPORTANT. 
          YOU WANNA SEE EVERYTHING, BUT THE THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT REALLY NEED TO STAND OUT. 
          SO THIS PICTURE ON THE, ON THE SLIDE HERE, UM, IS INDICATIVE OF WHAT OUR SYSTEM MIGHT LOOK LIKE IF IT HAD MULTIPLE ALARMS. YOU KNOW, RED WITH A ONE IS A HIGH PRIORITY. 
          THE BUTTERFLY MAGENTA LOOKING COLOR SAYS THAT THAT VALVE IS IN, IS IN ALARM STATUS. 
          SO IT JUST, IT GIVES THE OPERATOR AN EASY VISUAL OF WHAT'S GOING ON. 
          IF NOTHING'S GOING ON, IT'S KIND OF GRAYED OUT. 
          YOU CAN SEE THINGS ARE HAPPENING, BUT NOTHING'S REALLY STANDING OUT AT YOU. 
          SO, AND THAT WAS ONE, ONE OF OUR TACTICS TO IMPROVE THE HMI SCREENS. 
          UM, WE WERE ABLE TO GET THE NEW SYSTEM, UM, INSTALLED AND ON CITY SERVERS AND FIELD TESTED IN MAY OF 2025. 
          UM, THAT'S GOING TO INCLUDE A DEVELOPMENT SERVER. 
          SO IT'LL ALLOW US TO PROVIDE TRAINING AND SCENARIOS WITH OUR SC OPERATORS. 
          WE WOULD'VE PUT THEM IN A, IN A TRAINING SCENARIO AND THROW A SCENARIO AT 'EM, THROW A DROP OF PRESSURE TO SEE, MAKE SURE THEY'RE REACTING PROPERLY TO THE WAY THE SYSTEM'S, UH, CALLING FOR, UH, OTHER ENHANCEMENTS. 
          WE'VE UPDATED ALARM PARAMETERS IN THE NEW SYSTEM. 
          UM, WE'VE, WE'VE ADDED ADDITIONAL CRITICAL ALARMS, ALLOW FOR LONGER TALK RESPONSE TIMES. 
          WE'VE INCREASED NOTIFICATIONS ON CRITICAL ALARMS. UM, THESE ALARMS, ALARMS NOW SEND EMAIL NOTIFICATIONS. 
          UH, OUR SCADA INTEGRATOR AND INSTRUMENTATION CONTRACTOR HAS MET WITH BOTH PUBLIC SERVICES AND IT STAFFED AND CONDUCTED TRAINING ON THE NEW SCADA SOFTWARE. 
          UM, AND THEN WE ALSO, COMING OUT OF THAT, WE DEVELOPED A  CHART, UM, WHICH IS A RESPONSIBLE, ACCOUNTABLE CONSULTANT AND INFORMED CHART BETWEEN PUBLIC SERVICES, THE IT TEAM, AND OUR SCADA INTEGRATOR CONTRACTOR TO SAY, OKAY, WHAT PART OF THESE COMPONENTS AND WHO'S RESPONSIBLE, WHO'S ACCOUNTABLE, WHO'S IN FORT RIGHT? SO THAT WE KNOW WHO, WHERE THE ACCOUNTABILITY LIES ON THESE ISSUES. 
          UM, AND THE NEW SOFTWARE. 
          UM, HAPPY TO JUST ANNOUNCE THAT WE WENT LIVE AS THE PRIMARY SCADA SYSTEM ON JUNE 25TH, 2025. 
          UM, SO PRETTY REMARKABLE FEAT TO GET ONE IMPLEMENTED AND UP AND RUNNING SO QUICKLY. 
          SO IT WAS A VERY GOOD, UM, FEAT BY OUR TEAM. 
          SOME INITIAL ENHANCEMENTS ON THE INSTRUMENTATION PIECE. 
          OBVIOUSLY WE MADE SURE ALL THE CALIBRATED PRESSURE INDICATORS, GAUGES, FLOW METERS, ANY OTHER INSTRUMENTATION OUT IN THE SYSTEM WERE ALL CALIBRATED AND CHECKED, UM, DURING THE FIELD TESTING OF OUR SCADA SOFTWARE. 
          SO AS WE WERE GOING THROUGH IMPLEMENTING THE NEW SOFTWARE, WE ALSO DID FIELD TESTING. 
          SO EVERY INPUT AND OUTPUT, WHICH IS 1,724 POINTS IN OUR SYSTEM, UM, WAS VERIFIED THAT ALL THE READINGS WERE COMING THROUGH AND IT WAS MATCHING WHAT'S ON THE HMI SCREEN. 
          UH, SO IT WAS A VERY THOROUGH WAY TO DO THAT. 
          AND THEN WE'VE, WE'VE HAD EYE HYDRANTS IN THE SYSTEM, WHICH IS A, A SYSTEM THAT YOU SET UP ON A, ON A FIRE HYDRANT THROUGHOUT THE SYSTEM, AND IT HAS CELLULAR COMMUNICATION AND IT READS PRESSURE. 
          AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT INDICATES LOW PRESSURE OR PRESSURE ISSUES, IT WILL SEND AN ALERT OR WE'RE, WE'RE ENHANCING THE AMOUNT THAT WE HAVE THERE. 
          WE'VE GOT SOME ON ORDER, AND WE, WE PLAN TO HAVE THOSE INSTALLED, UM, IN THE SUMMER. 
          HOPEFULLY WE GET THEM SOON AND GET 'EM INSTALLED AT LEAST BY THE END OF AUGUST OF THIS YEAR. 
          UH, TO HELP WITH KIND OF A REDUNDANT, NOT TIED TO THE SCADA SYSTEM, NOT ON OUR CURRENT SOFTWARE SYSTEM, NOT ON OUR FIBER COMMUNICATION. 
          IT'S ALL INDEPENDENT. 
          THAT WILL ALSO SEND US ALARMS IF SOMETHING IS HAPPENING IN THE SYSTEM THAT WE NEED TO BE AWARE OF. 
          UH, WE'VE ENHANCED OUR PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE, UM, ON ALL OUR SCADA HARDWARE OUT IN THE FIELD. 
          THIS INCLUDES ALL THE PRESSURE SENSORS, TELEMETRY DEVICES, INTRUSION ALARMS. UM, WE'RE TRANSITIONING FROM A MANUAL ENTRY OF DATA INTO A DIRECT DATA, UH, ENTRY POINT INTO OUR SOFTWARE SYSTEM. 
          UM, WE'RE ALSO GONNA INCREASE THE INSTRUMENTATION CALIBRATION TO A SEMI-ANNUAL BY A THIRD PARTY TO ENSURE ACCURACY. 
          UM, WE'RE GONNA HAVE OUR INTEGRATOR COME IN MONTHLY TO DO SYSTEM UPDATES THAT THEY CAN ADDRESS ANY CONCERNS OR ANY MISCELLANEOUS PROBLEMS THAT WE MAY HAVE. 
          AND WHILE THEY'RE HERE, UH, WE CAN HAVE THEM ALSO CHECK OUT AND DO THOSE CALIBRATIONS. 
          WE THOUGHT IF THEY'RE GONNA COME IN ON A MONTHLY BASIS EVERY SIX MONTHS, WHY DON'T THEY JUST GO AHEAD AND RECALIBRATE EVERYTHING JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ENSURING ACCURACY THERE. 
          UM, OBVIOUSLY CYBERSECURITY FRAMEWORK CAN EITHER BE DONE MONTHLY OR AS NEEDED, RIGHT? IF THEY COME IN AND WE NEED TO DO THIS IMMEDIATELY, WE CAN HAVE THOSE TAKEN CARE OF. 
          UM, AND THEN WE INTEND TO HAVE AN ANNUAL CALIBRATION OF THE ENTIRE SCADA SYSTEM, UH, PERFORMED. 
          AND THAT'S THE WHAT I EXPLAINED WHEN WE DID THE FIELD TESTING, WHERE EVERY POINT WILL BE TOUCHED, VERIFIED, AND MAKE SURE THAT ITS POINT'S GOING TO THE RIGHT HMI SCREEN AND THE ALARMS ARE COUNTERFEITED. 
          UH, SO WE DID THAT HERE IN JUNE OF 2025. 
          SO WE'LL HAVE THAT ON SCHEDULE TO DO JUNE OF 2026. 
          UM, OBVIOUSLY APPRECIATE CHIEF VY BEING HERE TONIGHT. 
          UH, WE ALSO VENTURED IN SOME PARTNERSHIPS AND COLLABORATIONS WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. 
          UH, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT REALLY HELPED US, UH, REVIEW AND LOOK AT OUR, YOU KNOW, STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES, SOME OF OUR RESPONSE PROTOCOLS, AND HELPED US DEFINE SOME TRAINING THAT WE COULD LOOK AT TO TEST THOSE OUT. 
          UH, WE DEVELOPED A GOOD STRUCTURED FIRE DEPARTMENT PARTNERSHIP, UH, GREAT PEER-TO-PEER RELATIONSHIP AND MENTORSHIP WITH CHIEF VY. 
          UM, HE PROVIDED SOME OBSERVATIONS, LOOKED AT OUR DEPARTMENT POLICIES AND PRACTICES, UM, AND REALLY PROVIDED SOME RECOMMENDATIONS FROM AN ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE JUST BASED ON THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THEIR GENERALLY ACCEPTED PRACTICES. 
          UM, ALSO A LOT OF MENTORSHIP AND, AND GUIDANCE ON, YOU KNOW, THE 
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IN PROTOCOLS INFORMING THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, UNDERSTANDING CRITICAL ISSUES, AND REALLY JUST THAT GENERAL COMMUNICATION ON EMERGING ISSUES AND MAKING SURE ALL THE RIGHT PEOPLE ARE NOTIFIED AT IN THE RIGHT TIME. 
          UM, AND AGAIN, THESE, THESE RELATIONSHIPS ARE ONGOING, UM, AND WE, I CONTINUE TO EXPECT TO IMPROVE WITH, WITH THE LEADERSHIP AND THE COLLABORATION WITH THOSE TWO DEPARTMENTS. 
          UM, THIS IS WHERE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT HELPED US OUT. 
          SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE EVENTS TIMELINE OF WHEN THE EVENT OCCURRED, THE ACTION, THE BRIEFING. 
          UM, SINCE THEN, EMERGENCY MANAGES REALLY BEEN A, A, A KEY PARTNER IN HELPING US REVIEW THOSE SOPS, LIKE I HAD MENTIONED, DEVELOP SOME, BUT THEN PROVIDE SOME TRAINING AND IMPLEMENTATION IN LIEU OF A PUBLIC SERVICES TABLETOP EXERCISE THAT WE DID IN MARCH. 
          I WAS REALLY LOOKING AT THE SOPS THAT WE EITHER HAD IN PLACE OR THAT WE'VE RECENTLY CREATED, AND THEY WERE ABLE TO GET THE FIELD STAFF IN, IN THE ROOM, DO A TABLETOP EXERCISE AND MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE EFFECTIVELY, UH, ABLE TO EXECUTE THOSE PROCEDURES THAT WE PUT IN PLACE. 
          UM, AND THEN THAT EX THAT LED TO AN EXPANDED INCIDENT FUNCTIONAL EXERCISE WITH EVERY CITY IN THE DEPARTMENT, INCLUDING POLICE, FIRE, HEALTH, YOU KNOW, EVERY CITY YOU CAN THINK, OR EVERY CITY DEPARTMENT PARKS. 
          UM, AND JUST THROUGH SOME NON-CRISIS AND SOME CRISIS SITUATIONS. 
          UM, AND DID A TABLETOP EXERCISE IN JUNE, UM, THAT ALLOWED US TO DO A FEW THINGS. 
          IT ALLOWED US TO DEVELOP AND UPDATE MORE SOPS AS THESE TRAININGS IDENTIFY GAPS THAT THERE MIGHT BE. 
          UH, WE WERE ABLE TO UPDATE OUR WATER EMERGENCY RESPONSE PLANNING DURING THIS PERIOD. 
          UM, I DO HAVE THE TABLETOP EXERCISE MENTIONED HERE, BUT THEY ALSO ALLOWED US AN OPPORTUNITY TO TEST OUR COMMUNICATION TEMPLATES, NOT JUST IN PUBLIC SERVICES, BUT THROUGHOUT ALL THE DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE CITY. 
          UM, IT ALLOWED FOR LIKE GAPS IN TRAINING IN TERMS OF, WE NOW USE TEAMS AS AN INTIMATE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. 
          IS THAT, YOU KNOW, IS THERE TRAINING ON THAT? CAN WE PROVIDE THAT? UM, AND AGAIN, I MENTIONED IT, BUT THE PUBLIC SERVICES AND IT TRAINING JUST ON THE NEW SCADA SYSTEM. 
          UM, STAFFING ENHANCEMENTS. 
          SO SOME OF THE THINGS WE LOOKED AT WERE, YOU KNOW, CURRENTLY WE HAVE ONE UTILITY SYSTEM SUPERINTENDENT THAT'S MANAGING QUITE A BIT, FIELD OPERATIONS AND THE TECHNICAL SIDE OF THINGS. 
          UH, SO UTILITY SYSTEM SUPERINTENDENTS JUST MANAGE THE TECHNICAL OPERATIONS WORK ON THE SCADA SIDE, THE PLANT MAINTENANCE SIDE, THE MORE TECHNICAL, UM, SYSTEM KNOWLEDGE ON WATER SYSTEMS, SCADA INFRASTRUCTURE, FACILITY MAINTENANCE. 
          UM, AS WE'VE MENTIONED, WE'RE BRINGING A LOT OF NEW FACILITIES ON WITH THE A 25 PROGRAMS AND PUMP STATIONS AND GENERATORS. 
          AND SO THIS WOULD PROVIDE A POSITION TO ONLY MANAGE THE TECHNICAL SIDE OF THINGS AND FREE UP THE UTILITY SYSTEM SUPERINTENDENTS TO BE MORE IN THE FIELD OPERATIONS, THE WATER MAINS, THE SEWER LEAKS, THE CBO TYPE OF WORK. 
          UM, AND THEN, UM, WATER SYSTEM OPERATORS, UH, BRINGING ON MORE SC OPERATORS. 
          THIS WILL REALLY ALLOW US TO, UH, PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT MORE REDUNDANCY. 
          UM, WE THOUGHT WE HAD A, A REALLY GOOD REDUNDANT COVERAGE, BUT THIS WOULD ADD SOME REDUNDANCY IN THERE AND ALLOW FOR THE EXTRA COVERAGE, THE EXTRA TRAINING, THE EXTRA PROTOCOLS THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN PLACE. 
          UM, AND I THINK WITH, UH, CHIEF PUFFY'S MENTORSHIP, I THINK THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WE THOUGHT WAS, WAS REALLY NEEDED FROM AN ENHANCEMENT PERSPECTIVE. 
          UM, AND THEN IT ALSO ALLOWS RIGHT NOW, UM, EVERY AN OPERATOR WILL BE TWO SHIFTS TO COVER EACH SHIFT. 
          SO THAT'LL ALSO ALLOW FOR SOME, FOR REDUNDANCY AND A LITTLE BIT OF SAFETY PRACTICES THERE. 
          UM, A FACILITY SPECIALIST UTILITY SYSTEM. 
          SO THIS IS AN EMPLOYEE THAT WOULD ACTUALLY GO OUT AND DO THE PHYSICAL WORK ON THE PUMP STATIONS, WATER TOWERS, THAT SORT OF THING. 
          AS WE GAIN MORE FACILITIES, UM, WE JUST, WE NEED MORE HELP. 
          WE NEED MORE STAFF TO BE ABLE TO COVER THAT. 
          AND THEN WE ALSO KNOW THAT WE HAVE ONE RETIREE THAT'S COMING UP IN THE NEXT 18 MONTHS. 
          SO IT'S KIND OF GETTING AHEAD OF THAT AND PREPARING FOR THAT, THAT RETIREMENT. 
          UM, AND THEN A COMPLIANCE MANAGER. 
          UM, THERE'S SO MANY WATER, CO WATER QUALITY COMPLIANCE MEASURES THAT KEEP, CONTINUE TO COME ON EACH YEAR, LIKE THE LEAD AND COPPER IMPROVEMENTS THAT, THAT BRAD DISCUSSED. 
          UM, JUST EPA REQUIREMENTS. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, HAVING SOMEBODY THAT CAN, THAT CAN BE A CENTRAL POSITION TO MAINTAIN THE, OUR WATER QUALITY AND MAKE SURE WE REMAIN UP TO DATE ON ALL THOSE WATER QUALITY REGULATIONS. 
          UM, THIS ROLE ALSO HELP WITH ASSISTS WITH OUR TRAINING PROTOCOLS AND SCHEDULES. 
          SO WE ENVISION THIS KIND OF BEING A DUAL ROLE THERE, UH, FROM CLIENTS MANAGER. 
          UM, AND THIS IS REALLY EXCITING FOR ME. 
          THIS IS THE CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT. 
          UH, WE HAVE, UH, ENGAGED WITH A MASTER SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH IN MARCH OF 2025 WITH A LEADING INDUSTRY CONSULTANT. 
          UM, THIS TEAM IS MADE UP OF A, OF A LONG TENURED PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR ON THEIR STAFF. 
          THEY HAVE E-P-A-T-C-Q COMPLIANCE PERSONNEL. 
          THEY'VE GOT FIELD OPERATIONS EXPERTS, ENGINEERS. 
          UM, SO REALLY IT'S SOMEBODY THAT WE CAN REALLY THROW, THROW THINGS AT AND REALLY MAKE SURE THEY'RE VALIDATING OUR PROCESSES AND HELP US, YOU KNOW, CREATE MORE. 
          UM, SOME OF THE FIRST TASKS THAT WE'VE INCLUDED IS WE PROVIDED OUR SOPS FOR OUR SCADA AND PLANT MAINTENANCE GROUPS. 
          SO THAT'S OUR BOIL WATER NOTICE, OUR SYSTEM PRESSURE ASSURANCE, UH, DEEP CYCLING SOPS, PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE. 
          REALLY TAKE A LOOK AT ALL OF OUR SOPS AND EITHER VALIDATE WHAT WE'RE DOING OR GIVE US SOME GUIDANCE ON HOW WE NEED TO IMPROVE. 
          UM, AND THEN WE'VE REVIEWED, REVIEWED IT, IMPLEMENT, THEY'RE GONNA REVIEW OUR IMPLEMENTATION OF THE NEW SCADA SYSTEM. 
          SO EVEN THOUGH WE'RE UP AND RUNNING, THEY'RE GONNA TAKE A LOOK BACK AT EVERYTHING THAT WE DID, IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE MISSED OR STEPS THAT WE NEED TO INCLUDE, UM, ON THE IMPLEMENTATION PROCESS. 
          AND THEN AGAIN, AS THEY CONTINUE TO LOOK THROUGH THIS, JUST TO IDENTIFY ANY OTHER SOP NEEDS THAT WE MIGHT, WE MIGHT NEED. 
          UM, THEY'VE ALREADY KIND OF CONDUCTED A STAFF REVIEW. 
          SO THEY'VE DONE STAFF REVIEW SITE VISITS, UM, WITH THE INTENTION OF CREATING AN OPERATIONS FOCUSED FINDINGS REPORT, UM, AND DEVELOP AND CONDUCT BENCHMARK STUDIES ON HOW WE RELATE TO OTHER CITIES IN TERMS OF OUR SCADA AND PLANT MAINTENANCE GROUP. 
          UM, AGAIN, JUST RE CONTINUE TO REVIEW SOPS AND, AND PROVIDE 
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GUIDANCE ON BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES. 
          UM, AND THEN THERE'S OPTIONS FOR ADDITIONAL TASKS LATER ON THAT WE, WE, WE ANTICIPATE VENTURING ONTO. 
          BUT RIGHT NOW THEY'RE JUST OPTIONAL TASKS, UM, JUST TO CAPTURE AND DOCUMENT ALL THE INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE THAT WE HAVE. 
          AND THERE'S, WE HAVE A LOT OF TENURED STAFF THAT IT'S ALL WITHIN THEIR BRAIN, BUT HOW DO WE BRING 'EM IN, PUT 'EM ON DOCUMENT SOPS PROCESSES, AND GET THAT DOCUMENTED? SO THE NEW C OPERATORS, THE NEW PLANT MAINTENANCE GUYS, WE'LL HAVE SOME, UH, STARTING STEPPING STONE TO, TO START THEIR CAREER AND UNDERSTAND THE PROCESSES THAT WE'RE EXPECTING THEM TO FOLLOW. 
          UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, REALLY, I ALLUDE THIS TO WHAT WE SAY IN THE FIRE, WHAT FIRE DEPARTMENT SAYS IS, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE STATE REQUIREMENTS FOR ALL OF OUR WATER OPERATORS. 
          YOU HAVE TO DO THIS TO GET YOUR LICENSE. 
          WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT WAYS AND MAYBE CREATE A POSITION THAT SAYS WE'RE GONNA GO ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT THE REQUIRED TCQ TRAINING IS. 
          UM, AND DO TRAINING, LIKE TECHNICAL INSTRUMENTATION, SIMULATION, CUSTOMER SERVICE, RIGHT? ANYTHING THAT'S RELATED TO THEIR JOB. 
          AND REALLY BUILD A TRAINING PROGRAM THAT'S ABOVE AND BEYOND JUST WHAT'S REQUIRED TO HAVE THE LICENSE. 
          UM, SO NEXT STEPS, UM, ONBOARD NEW STAFF, UH, COMPLETE THE FIRST TASK ORDER WITH THE THIRD PARTY CONSULTANT. 
          AS I MENTIONED, IT'S GONNA INCLUDE THE THINGS LIKE RETENTION, RECRUITMENT, SUCCESSION PLANNING, UM, CROSS TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES, UM, REGULAR AND DIVERSE TRAINING PROGRAMS. THAT'S WHERE I GO LITTLE ABOVE AND BEYOND THE STATE REQUIRED. 
          UM, AND REALLY OTHER INITIATIVES THAT JUST UPON, UPON COMPLETION OF THE FINDINGS REPORT, ARE THERE ANYTHING THAT COMES OUTTA THAT FINDINGS REPORT THAT WE NEED TO ADD AND, AND ADD TO THIS PROTOCOL? UM, AND THEN THIS IS GONNA BE CONTINUOUS, BUT JUST REVIEW AND ENHANCED TRAINING PROTOCOLS, JUST CONSISTENTLY DO THAT. 
          THAT'S GONNA BE A CONTINUOUS PROCESS. 
          UM, AND THEN AS, AS NECESSARY OR AS APPROPRIATE, WE, WE PLAN TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THESE STATUS UPDATES TO YOU THROUGH ANNUAL DEEP DIVES OR OTHER OPPORTUNITIES THAT MAY COME UP. 
          SO WITH, I WENT THAT THROUGH FAST, BUT ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COUNCIL MEMBER MORRIS. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, ERIC, SO HELP ME UNDERSTAND, I'M LOOKING AT THE TIMELINE AND THERE WAS A LOT OF INFORMATION YOU WENT THROUGH REALLY FAST, AND I TRIED TO KEEP UP WITH AS MUCH OF IT, UH, WHILE LOOKING AT THIS AND READING THE FROM 7:30 AM TO ONE 20. 
          SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS KIND OF THE BIG, I GUESS WHERE THE LAPSE HAPPENED WAS IT ENDED UP DRAWING DOWN FURTHER THAN, I GUESS FASTER THAN THE SPEED WE, I GUESS, INITIALLY THOUGHT. 
          'CAUSE ACCORDING TO THIS, IT'S COMING. 
          WE WERE GONNA CHECK IT AT TWO, IT DREW DOWN FASTER THAN WE EXPECTED, AND WE SOMEHOW MISSED THAT. 
          IS THAT WHERE THE LAPSE WAS? SO I THINK, SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE INCIDENT ITSELF? THE INCIDENT INCIDENT SUMMARY REVIEW, THE, SO I THINK, I THINK WHAT, WHAT OUR FINDINGS ARE IS THAT IT'S LIKELY THAT EITHER THE, THE EQUIPMENT WASN'T CALIBRATED OR WASN'T PERFORMING, AND IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN. 
          SO WE WERE GETTING A FAULTY READING. 
          SO THE READING THAT WE WERE ASSUMING WE WERE SEEING WAS INCORRECT. 
          UM, AND SO ULTIMATELY THAT'S WHAT LED TO THE, THE DECISIONS THAT WERE MADE. 
          UM, WE WEREN'T SEEING THE FOOTAGE THAT WE THOUGHT WE HAD. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THESE WERE SENSORS, NOT THE ACTUAL CAMERAS IN THE WATER TOWER, RIGHT? NO, THESE ARE ALL, THEY'RE ALL PRESSURE SENSORS THAT GIVE THAT, GIVE A, THAT GO TO A PLC THAT GIVE YOU A READING. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I'M ASSUMING DON, THIS WILL, THIS MEMORANDUM WE RECEIVED PRIOR TO THE COUNCIL MEETING WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR RESIDENCE. 
          IT IT IS ONLINE NOW, BUT THIS IS THE ONE FROM DECEMBER. 
          WE'LL PUT IT ON AGAIN. 
          SORRY. 
          YEP. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, WAIT, SO WHAT'D YOU SAY? OH, THAT'S THE, NOT THAT THIS IS THE SAME ONE WE RECEIVED PRIOR. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR NOW. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER SAMSON. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. 
          WELL, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR BRIEFING. 
          ALL THIS, UH, I PROBABLY, YOU MENTIONED I DID NOT UNDERSTAND QUITE TOTALLY. 
          UH, I JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND MORE, UH, ON THAT, LIKE THE ALARM THAT YOU HAVE INSTALLED, LIKE MORE ADJUSTED THING. 
          SO THAT ALARM WILL BE GIVEN SENDING OUT IF SOMETHING HAPPENED TO THE SYSTEM SOMEWHERE. 
          IS THAT, THAT, THAT HAS BEEN IMPLEMENTED NOW? YEAH, SO I, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE TALKING TO IS SOME OF THE ALARM CHANGES THAT WE MADE, OR, YOU KNOW, WHERE A PARAMETER MIGHT HAVE BEEN, GIMME AN ALARM. 
          WHEN IT GETS TO A CRITICAL LEVEL HERE, WE'VE RAISED THAT CRITICAL LEVEL SO THAT WE CAN SAY, OKAY, WE'RE CRITICAL AT THIS LEVEL, AND SO WE HAVE MORE TIME TO REACT THAN, SAY, JUST GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. 
          IF A, IF A TANK IS AT ZERO FEET, FIVE FEET OR 10 FEET, AND WE SAID WE WOULD WANT CRITICAL ALARM AT FIVE FEET, WE NOW SAY, GIVE IT TO US AT 10 SO THAT WE CAN REALLY LOOK AND SEE WHAT'S GOING ON. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UH, HELP ME UNDERSTAND. 
          SO WHEN THE ALARM GOES OUT, DOES IT GOES TO A ONE SPECIFIC PERSON OR A GROUP OF TEAM? SO THE GENERAL ALARMS GO, THEY ALL GO TO THE HMI SCREEN, BUT THEN ALARMS THAT WE FEEL ARE CRITICAL PRIORITY ALARMS, THEY GO OUT TO THE WHOLE TEAM. 
          SO AN EMAIL NOTIFICATION GOES OUT TO THE WHOLE TEAM. 
          UM, DEPENDING ON IF IT'S IT RELATED, IT GETS A MESSAGE RELATED TO THAT. 
          SO IT GOES OUT TO ALL THE WHOLE TEAM. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S GREAT. 
          SO TAKE, TAKE IT ONE STEP FURTHER THOUGH, AND TALK ABOUT THE ESCALATION. 
          YEAH. 
          SO YOU TALKING ABOUT THE ESCALATION. 
          SO, SO LET'S SAY FOR INSTANCE, UNDER THAT SCENARIO, NOBODY RESPONDS 
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TO IT. 
          THERE'S A, THERE'S FURTHER NOTIFICATIONS THAT OCCUR. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THERE'S A, THERE'S ALARMING CONFIGURATION THAT SAYS THOSE ALARM ALARM GOES OFF AND NOBODY ACKNOWLEDGES IT FOR 15 MINUTES OR WHATEVER THE TIME IS. 
          IT THEN ESCALATES THAT ALARM TO IT GOES AND ALERTS THE NEXT LEVEL OF SUPERVISION. 
          RIGHT? RIGHT. 
          JUST CONTINUES TO ESCALATE UNTIL SOMEBODY ACKNOWLEDGES THAT ALARM. 
          AND IT'S NOT JUST AN EMAIL. 
          NO, IT'S A RIGHT, IT'S A TEXTING, IT'S, IT'S ALL KINDS OF . 
          SO IT'S RAMPED UP EVERY TIME SOMETHING IS NOT RESPONDED TO. 
          IT'S RAMPED UP IN TERMS OF HOW MUCH TIME PASSES IS LESS. 
          PLUS IT'S ANOTHER FORM OF OUTREACH THAT THEY'RE MAKING TO ONE OF THESE GUYS. 
          NO, THAT'S GREAT. 
          SO THAT WAY THAT WHEN THE TEAMS GETS NOTIFICATION, I'M SURE THAT NOBODY REALLY ASSUME THAT SOMEBODY ELSE WILL TAKE CARE OF IT. 
          SO THERE IS A PROTOCOL FOR THAT ALSO, THAT, THAT SOMEBODY WILL TAKE THE STEP NOTIFYING THE OTHERS THAT, HEY, I'M ON THE TOP OF THIS AND WE'RE TAKING ACTIONS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          YEAH. 
          I, I CAN TELL YOU IT CURRENTLY, IF THAT, IF ANYBODY OUTSIDE THE OPERATORS, THERE'S A NEED TO RECEIVE A MESSAGE, I CAN TELL THE PHONE START RINGING PRETTY QUICKLY AND WE START ASKING QUESTIONS AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON. 
          NO, THAT'S GREAT. 
          I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT DEFINITELY WITH THE NEW SYSTEM, ENHANCED SYSTEM, THAT IF WE NEED TO HAVE THAT CAPABILITY AND LIKE EVEN FOR, YOU KNOW, SIMPLE ORGANIZATION, IF SOMEONE CALL 9 1 1 THE WHOLE PROJECT, I MEAN, NOT PROJECT THAT THE TEAM, THE MANAGEMENT TEAM, THEY AUTOMATICALLY GET NOTIFICATION THAT THERE WAS A NINE ONE ONE CALL FROM YOUR OFFICE, FROM YOUR ORGANIZATION. 
          SO SOMEBODY ELSE TAKE STEPS THAT, OKAY, NOTHING REALLY HAPPENED. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THAT ONE. 
          YEAH, AND I'D ALSO ADD THAT THAT RA'S CHART THAT I MENTIONED THAT WE DO WITH IT, THE INTEGRATOR AND PUBLIC SERVICES THAT REALLY OUTLINE SOME OF THOSE CRITICAL NEEDS AND WHO IS RESPONSIBLE PARTY AND WHO, WHO NEEDS TO BE NOTIFIED AND WHO WE NEED TO CONTACT. 
          SO IT REALLY HELPS TO FIND THAT AS WELL. 
          SO IF, IF WE, LET'S SAY I GET A NOTIFICATION ON SOMETHING, BUT IT, IT IS, IT IS IT RELATED. 
          I, I NOW HAVE CONTACTS SO I CAN GET THAT TAKEN CARE OF JUST AS QUICKLY. 
          SO WITH THAT NEW SYSTEM INSTALLED, I THINK FUTURE, WE CAN, AT LEAST, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT GONNA BE COMING, LIKE UNKNOWN THINGS, BUT AT LEAST WE CAN AVOID WHAT HAPPENED EXACTLY LAST TIME. 
          SO THERE WILL BE NO REPEAT OF MM-HMM . 
          THAT KIND OF THINGS. 
          APPRECIATE THAT CLARIFICATION. 
          NOW, FOR THE TESTING THINGS YOU SAID THAT EPA HAS MANDATE ALREADY, YOU HAVE TO GO TO THIS PLACE TO GET THAT TESTING DONE, OTHERWISE, YOU KNOW, THE RESULT IS NOT VALID. 
          YOU KNOW, LIKE, YEAH, SO I, I, I, UH, JUST POINT OF CLARIFICATION, I DON'T, UH, ERIC, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE A SPECIFIC PLACE WE HAVE TO TAKE IT, BUT THERE'S A SPECIFIC PROCESS THAT TAKES A MINIMUM OF THE 18 HOURS, RIGHT? THE, THE EPA TESTING METHOD, RIGHT? OKAY. 
          THE TESTING METHOD KIND OF APPROVED EPA TESTING METHOD ON A WATER SAMPLE. 
          FASTEST TIME TURNAROUND YOU CAN GET IS 18 HOURS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT MEANS YOU HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL YOU SEE THAT SOMETHING IS FORMING BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SEE REALLY, THERE'S AN INCUBATION PERIOD, RIGHT? YOU TELL YOU LET THE BACTERIA GO. 
          UH, IS THERE ANY OTHER WAY THAT WE COULD HAVE A BACKUP TESTING INTERNALLY UNOFFICIAL, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T SUE A HUNDRED PERCENT, BUT WE'RE NOT TAKING THE, WE'RE NOT LIFTING THE NOTICE, UH, BECAUSE OF OUR INTERNAL TESTING, BUT AT LEAST HAVE A BACKUP TESTING SOMEWHERE THAT WE CAN GO AND GET THE RESULT SOMETHING FASTER. 
          LIKE A, LIKE A SECONDARY, A SECONDARY THAT'S NOT REALLY RELATED WITH THE, THE NOTIFICATION OR, OR TAKING OUT THE NOTIFICATION. 
          IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, JUST A SECONDARY, SECONDARY, JUST, YEAH, WE, WE CAN DEFINITELY EXPLORE THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, IN, IN, IN THIS SITUATION. 
          FOR INSTANCE. 
          I MEAN WE, MAYBE WE BRING IT TO NORTH TEXAS, BUT WE HAVE A SECOND, UM, A SECOND, YOU KNOW, PROVIDER WE COULD BRING IT TO JUST TO YEAH, YEAH, YOU CAN DO THAT. 
          SURE. 
          YEAH. 
          BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, YOU HAD THE CONFIDENCE THAT NOTHING HAPPENED WITH THAT FEW MINUTES, I FELT COMFORTABLE ALSO, LIKE THAT TIME I WAS NOT SWEATING A HUNDRED PERCENT. 
          BUT AGAIN, THAT WAS LIKE A GUT FEELINGS, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE HAVE, IF WE CAN GO BETTER THAN THAT, THAT WOULD GIVE US, AT LEAST WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE GUT FEELINGS THERE. 
          WE CAN SEE. 
          OKAY. 
          SOMETHING ELSE. 
          BRAIN FEELINGS. 
          OKAY. 
          GOOD SUGGESTION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          JUST, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION ON THAT QUESTION, THE, THE TEST ITSELF THOUGH, EVEN IF YOU DID TWO TESTS OR MULTIPLE TESTS AT THE SAME TIME, IT WOULD STILL TAKE 18 HOURS BECAUSE OF THE CULTURE. 
          AND SO IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY GIVE US A FASTER ANSWER, IT WOULD JUST GIVE US TWO ANSWERS AT APPROXIMATELY THE SAME TIME, CORRECT? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, COUNCIL MEMBER CORCORAN. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, ERIC, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION. 
          I MEAN, A, A CORE PART OF RISK MANAGEMENT IS CREATING AND EXECUTING A REMEDIATION PLAN WHEN AN ISSUE OCCURS. 
          AND I FEEL LIKE A CORE PART OF A BOARD LIKE US IS JUST TO RECEIVE THE RESULTS OF THAT REMEDIATION PLAN OF THE INTERNAL AUDIT. 
          SO THIS IS A VERY ROBUST PLAN. 
          I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK YOU PUT INTO IT, AND IT DEFINITELY SATISFIES SORT OF THAT, THAT ITCH FROM MY END AS A BOARD MEMBER FOR THE CITY. 
          COUNCILMAN BARRIOS. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, DITTO TO WHAT COUNCILMAN, UH, CORCORAN SAID. 
          ERIC, THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO, TO LOOK INTO THIS. 
          UM, OBVIOUSLY THERE WAS A LOT OF THOUGHT THAT GO, WENT INTO THIS AND THANK 
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YOU TO CHIEF VY FOR, UH, YOUR ASSISTANCE AND YOUR DEPARTMENT'S ASSISTANCE AND HELPING HIM IN YOUR LINE OF EXPERTISE IN THIS. 
          UM, THE, JUST TO CLARIFY, 'CAUSE HE ASKED SOMETHING, I WASN'T SURE I QUITE UNDERSTOOD, AND IT WAS SOMETHING I WAS THINKING ABOUT EARLIER AND DIDN'T ASK WHEN SOME, HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW OFTEN TO GET ON. 
          LIKE, I KNOW CHIEF, YOU KNOW, EVERY FEW MINUTES HE HAS AN ALARM GOING OFF AT A FIRE STATION, THAT'S PART OF EVERY DAY, RIGHT? UH, JUST, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S IN THE NATURE OF WHAT THEY DO. 
          UH, DOES AN ALARM GO OFF ONCE A SHIFT? IS IT LIKE ONCE A MONTH? LIKE HOW OFTEN? FOR THOSE OF US WHO, UH, AREN'T EXPERTS DURING THE DAY, A SCADA SYSTEM WILL GO OFF FAIRLY REGULARLY, NOT BECAUSE OF ANYTHING NECESSARILY DETRIMENT SYSTEM, RIGHT? IF SOMEBODY OPENS A HATCH, IT'S GONNA SAY, HEY, THERE'S SOMEBODY JUST OPENED A HATCH. 
          OKAY. 
          OR SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, WALKS INTO A MOTOR CONTROL ROOM AND NOBODY CALLED AND SAID, I'M IN THERE, WE'RE GONNA GET A MOTION ALARM. 
          RIGHT? SO THEY GET THOSE TYPES OF SECURITY TYPE LEVEL ALARMS. UM, BUT ALARMS LIKE LOW PRESSURE, LOW LEVEL, YEAH, THOSE ARE NOT, THOSE ARE NOT COMMON ALARMS THAT YOU GET. 
          UM, BUT JUST DAILY ALARMS, YOU, YOU, YOU'RE GONNA GET THOSE. 
          SO WHEN YOU ALL ARE NOTIFIED WHEN I SAY YOU ALL SC A SUPERVISOR AND THEN THE MULTIPLE LEVELS OBVIOUSLY BETWEEN THEM AND YOU, UM, AS THINGS START TO HAPPEN AND ALARMS GO TO GO OUT, I MEAN, YOU'RE NOT GETTING AN EMAIL FOR EVERY ALARM, JUST LIKE CHIEF DOESN'T GET AN EMAIL FOR EVERY NINE ONE ONE CALL THAT GOES THROUGH. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, THE AT WHAT POINT, AND IS YOUR TEAM OBVIOUSLY IS GOOD AT CALLING EACH OTHER AND LEVEL IN UP PRETTY QUICK. 
          'CAUSE THAT'S JUST THE WAY RICHARDSON DOES IT. 
          AND I KNOW THE, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST IN YOUR DEPARTMENT, BUT THROUGHOUT OTHER DEPARTMENTS, UH, STAFF IS REALLY GOOD AT WORKING TOGETHER AND TALKING WITH EACH OTHER. 
          UM, BUT AT WHAT POINT DOES IT LIKE START, I GUESS, ALARMING YOUR PHONE STARTS PING OR MAYBE A COUPLE BELOW YOU TO WHERE IT'S STARTS ELEVATING OR, SO MAYBE THIS WILL, SO PART OF THE IMPLEMENTATION PROCESS WAS IDENTIFYING ALARMS AND ALARM CATEGORIES AND PRIORITIES, AND SO IT FITS WHAT WE CONSIDER THE HIGHEST PRIORITY. 
          THEN EVERYBODY WITHIN THAT LIST WOULD GET NOTIFIED. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF BRAD AND BRAD'S WORK WAS WORKING WITH THE INTEGRATOR, WORKING WITH THE ALARM SYSTEM AND THE ALARM ME AND SAY, OKAY, WELL WHAT ARE CRITICAL ALARMS AND WHO NEEDS TO RECEIVE THOSE MESSAGES? SO, UM, THAT'S REALLY KIND OF HOW WE DEFINE WHO'S WHO GOT WHAT, RIGHT? AND SO ANY OF THE HIGH POTENTIAL, HIGH CRITICAL ALARMS, CERTAINLY EVERYBODY NEEDS TO BE ON THOSE NOTIFICATIONS, BUT A, UM, A NON-CRITICAL ALARM, A DAILY OPERATIONAL ALARM, YOU KNOW, MAY NOT PUT US ON THOSE, THOSE STATUSES. 
          THAT'S GREAT. 
          OKAY. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          UH, DON, ONE QUICK QUESTION, AND I KNOW WE, WAS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS, UM, AROUND KIND OF THE WAY THE, UM, AND THE, UH, PUBLIC WAS NOTIFIED OR WERE THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSIONS IN LOOKING INTO THAT? I KNOW THERE WERE A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS WE USED TO NOTIFY THE PUBLIC, BUT WAS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION AROUND THAT? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. 
          UH, PART, PART OF BOTH OF THE EXERCISES AND PART OF THE PROTOCOLS THAT, UM, ERIC AND AND HIS TEAM ARE WORKING ON INCLUDE, UH, ENHANCED NOTIFICATION. 
          UM, SO, SO ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN THIS, IN THE, IN THE INITIAL FINDINGS WE'VE USED AND, UM, EITHER TESTED IT AND COME UP WITH REFINEMENTS OR, UH, NEW PROTOCOLS, UM, THAT WERE IDENTIFIED USING BEST PRACTICES THROUGH THE, THE CONSULTING TEAM, UH, AND REALLY JUST OTHER, LOOKING AT OTHER DEPARTMENTS LIKE, UH, YOU KNOW, OTHER, OTHER FIRST RESPONDING, UM, SITUATIONS. 
          SO, YEAH. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, JUST ONE LAST COMMENT. 
          WHEN IT COMES TO NOTIFICATION, I KNOW, UM, YOU, THE, UM, WE, THERE WERE A LOT OF TOOLS USED, UH, PERHAPS IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS AS YOU HAVE FUTURE CONVERSATIONS AND, YOU KNOW, YOU CONTINUE TO IMPROVE EVERY DEPARTMENT, UM, WE NEED TO PERHAPS LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A HIGH LEVEL OF RENTERS, NOT JUST MULTI-FAMILY, BUT SINGLE FAMILY RENTERS IN THAT AREA AND ELDERLY. 
          UM, AND WE AS A CITY, I THINK, HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO KIND OF CONTINUE TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ON SOME OF THOSE TOOLS AND HOW TO SIGN UP FOR SOME OF THOSE NOTIFICATIONS. 
          SO I, I THINK, AND I KNOW YOU'VE, WE'VE HAD THAT CONVERSATION, SO I KNOW IT'S SOMETHING, BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, FOR THOSE WATCHING, WE'VE HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS, I BELIEVE THE LAST TIME WE LOOKED AT THIS. 
          AND, UM, BUT AS WE DEVELOP THOSE RELATIONSHIPS WITH DEPARTMENT MANAGERS, PERHAPS THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT THEY COULD NOTIFY THEIR, THEIR RENTERS AND YEP. 
          NO, IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S EXTREMELY, UM, IMPORTANT AND IT'S ALSO EXTREMELY EASY TO OPT IN TO OUR NOTICES AND, UM, IN A SITUATION LIKE THIS, YOU'LL BE INSTANTANEOUSLY UPDATED THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. 
          AND SO WE IT, BUT IT'S INCUMBENT UPON US TO CONTINUE TO PROMOTE THAT AND RAISE AWARENESS ABOUT IT, UM, AND, AND TRY TO GET AS MANY PEOPLE TO OPT IN AS POSSIBLE. 
          WELL, I WILL SAY, AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR DAWN TO YOU AND THE ENTIRE STAFF. 
          I KNOW I WAS OBVIOUSLY ONE OF THE, THE HOUSES AFFECTED BY 
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THIS AND, UM, MY, AS WERE MY WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          SO THAT WEEK MY PHONE WAS, UH, BLOWING UP NONSTOP, AND I, I CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR, UM, THE TIME THAT'S BEEN TAKEN BY THE MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS TO, TO LOOK AT THIS, TO STUDY WHAT WAS DONE CORRECTLY, WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN IMPROVED, NOT JUST IN SYSTEMS, BUT PERSONNEL AND THE ACTIONS TAKEN. 
          SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR DOING IT. 
          UM, I THINK IT SPEAKS TO THE LEVEL, UH, WE HAVE AT RICHARDSON IN THAT CUSTOMER SERVICE. 
          I'VE SPOKEN TO OTHER, UH, EVEN I THINK SOME OF YOUR OWN STAFF HAVE WORKED WITH OTHER CITIES AND THEY'RE LIKE, WELL, OR I USED TO WORK, THIS HAPPENED ALL THE TIME, BUT I'M GLAD WE DON'T HAVE THAT ISSUE IN RICHARDSON. 
          AND I THINK THAT SPEAKS TO THE LEVEL OF STAFF WE HAVE, BECAUSE THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS EVERY SIX MONTHS IN OUR CITY. 
          UM, NOT EVERYBODY CAN SAY THAT, SO, YEAH, EXACTLY. 
          THANK YOU . 
          SO THANK YOU DON AND STAFF, UH, GREAT PRESENTATION. 
          ONE A SECOND, UH, COUNCILMAN CORCORAN'S POINT, UH, IT, IT, I THINK THIS WAS A REALLY THOROUGH ACTION AFTER ACTION REPORT AND, UH, APPRECIATE KIND OF ALL THE TRANSPARENCY AND ALL THE WORK, UH, MR. MAGNER, YOU AND THE ENTIRE TEAM HAVE PUT TOGETHER FOR THIS. 
          SO THANK YOU GUYS. 
          UM, ERIC, BRAD, NICK, THANK YOU, ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATIONS. 
          PHILIP, I HOPE IT WAS THE THRILL OF YOUR LIFETIME AND, UH, I I CAN ONLY HOPE THAT, UH, THINGS ARE UP FROM HERE. 
          UM, WE HAVE BEEN GOING FOR ABOUT TWO HOURS AND 36 MINUTES, AND SO I'M GONNA TAKE A 10 MINUTE RECESS AND WE'LL BE BACK AT 8 46. 
          YES SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          WE'RE BACK IN SESSION AT 8:46 PM 
          [9. PUBLIC HEARING, ZONING FILE 25-10, AND CONSIDER ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE BY  GRANTING A CHANGE IN ZONING BY GRANTING A SPECIAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO MODIFY  THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS OF THE MAIN STREET/CENTRAL EXPRESS-WAY FORMBASED CODE AND TO GRANT A SPECIAL PERMIT FOR A DRIVE-THROUGH RESTAURANT ON 0.7  ACRES LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF W. SPRING VALLEY ROAD AND S.  SHERMAN STREET ZONED PLANNED DEVELOPMENT MAIN STREET/CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY  (RAILSIDE SUB-DISTRICT).]
AND WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO THE PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS. UM, AND THAT WILL BE ITEM NUMBER NINE WILL BE THE FIRST ONE, PUBLIC HEARING ZONING FILE 25 DASH 10 AND CONSIDER ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE BY GRANTING A CHANGE IN ZONING TO MODIFY THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS OF THE MAIN STREET CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY, UH, FORM-BASED CODE. 
          AND TO GRANT A SPECIAL PERMIT FOR A DRIVE-THROUGH RESTAURANT AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF WEST SPRING VALLEY ROAD AND SOUTH SHERMAN STREET. 
          MR. MAGNER. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          UH, OUR SENIOR PLANNER, UH, DEREK PETERS IS GONNA, UH, STAFF THIS ITEM FOR US. 
          UH, SHE'S GONNA COVER THE TECHNICAL POINTS RELATED TO THE REQUEST, AND THEN THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND I BELIEVE HE'D LIKE TO, UH, SAY, UH, A FEW WORDS AND SHARE SOME THOUGHTS ON HIS APPLICATION AS WELL. 
          ERICA. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ZONING FILE 25 10 IS A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL PERMIT FOR A DR. 
          A RESTAURANT WITH DRIVE THROUGH SERVICE AND A SPECIAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. 
          THIS IS AT THE NORTHWEST CORNERS SHERMAN STREET IN WEST SPRING VALLEY ROAD. 
          THE PROPERTY IS ZONED AS PART OF THE MAIN STREET CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY PLAN DEVELOPMENT, AND IT'S IN THE RAILSIDE SUBDISTRICT. 
          THE PROPERTIES THAT SURROUND THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, UH, TO THE NORTHEAST, SOUTH AND WEST ARE ALL ALSO WITHIN THE WEST. 
          UH, THE MAIN STREET CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY PD. 
          THE PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH OF THE SUBJECT TRACK HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH A OFFICE, A CAFE RESTAURANT, AND THEN LOCKWOOD DISTILLERY NORTH OF THAT. 
          YOU'LL NOTICE ON THE AERIAL MAP THAT THOSE PROPERTIES NORTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE AS WELL AS TO THE SOUTHEAST, HAVE BEEN APPROVED FOR SPECIAL DEVELOPMENT PLANS AS WELL. 
          SO THIS IS THE RAILSIDE SUBDISTRICT TO REMIND YOU IN THE MAIN STREET CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY CODE. 
          THE VISION FOR THIS SUBDISTRICT IS TO POSITION RICHARDSON AS A COMMUNITY CONCERNED WITH SAY, SUSTAINABILITY AND THE ARTS, FOCUSING ON ADAPTIVE REUSE OF EXISTING INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS WITH A CHARACTER OF NEW DEVELOPMENT ENVISIONED WITH HIGH QUALITY URBAN CHARACTER. 
          A SPECIAL PERMIT IS REQUIRED FOR A DRIVE-THROUGH RESTAURANT IN THE RAILSIDE SUB-DISTRICT AND WITH A SPECIAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, UM, IS ALSO MENTIONED IN THE MAIN STREET PD AS AN OPTION FOR APPLICANTS TO REQUEST MODIFICATIONS TO THE STANDARDS OF THE CODE THAT, UH, EXCEED THAT OF A MINOR MODIFICATION. 
          AND THIS IS INTENDED TO ALLOW THE APPLICANT'S FLEXIBILITY WITHIN THE MARKET AND TO ADAPT TO MARKET CONDITIONS WITH SITE SPECIFIC EXCEPTIONS. 
          THE ENVISION RICHARDSON COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATED THIS AREA AS THE TRANSIT VILLAGE PLACE TYPE, WHICH REINFORCED THE RAILSIDE SUBDISTRICT VISION THAT WAS FOUND IN THAT PD VISIONING PROCESS. 
          IN THE FUTURE, LAND USE PLAN PLACE TYPE FOR TRANSIT VILLAGE RESTAURANT IS IDENTIFIED AS A PRIMARY USE. 
          HOWEVER, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES NOT SPEAK TO DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANTS. 
          AND THIS THIS PLACE TYPE IS CHARACTERIZED BY A HIGHER DENSITY MIX OF RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE TO TRANSIT. 
          HERE ARE SITE PHOTOS OF THE SITE TODAY. 
          SO THIS WAS FORMERLY OCCUPIED BY A WENDY'S DRIVE THROUGH FROM 1994 THROUGH THROUGH 2023. 
          SO THESE PHOTOS SHOW THE BUILDING TODAY. 
          THE APPLICANT HAS ALREADY PURCHASED THE PROPERTY AND STARTED MAKING SOME SITE IMPROVEMENTS. 
          THEY'VE PAINTED THE, THE SIDES OF THE BUILDING. 
          HERE'S THE SOUTH FACADE, WHICH YOU SEE FROM WEST SPRING VALLEY ROAD. 
          THE NORTH FACADE IS 
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ON THE INTERIOR OF THE SITE. 
          THIS EAST FACADE IS SEEN FROM SHERMAN STREET, AND THEN THE WEST FACADE IS ON THE INTERIOR OF THE SITE IN THE REAR. 
          UH, SO THAT, UH, WENDY'S OPERATED THROUGH 2023. 
          THEY DID OBTAIN A SPECIAL PERMIT WHEN THEY FIRST OPENED IN 1994, BUT AFTER THEY VACATED IN 2023, THERE WAS A PERIOD OF MORE THAN SIX MONTHS, UH, OF BEING VACANT AND AN AND OF INACTIVITY, THUS MAKING THAT SPECIAL PERMIT INVALID. 
          SO A NEW DRIVE-THROUGH RESTAURANT IS REQUIRED TO GET A NEW SPECIAL PERMIT. 
          THIS IS THE PROPOSED CONCEPT PLAN PROVIDED FROM THE APPLICANT, THE ONLY SITE MODIFICATIONS THEY INTEND TO MAKE TO THE EXTERIOR OF THE SITE OR TO ADD A 300 FOOT COVERED PATIO ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PLAN. 
          AND THAT'S ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE BUILDING HERE. 
          OTHERWISE, THEY DON'T PLAN ON MAKING ANY OTHER SITE MODIFICATIONS. 
          SO THIS SITE AREA IS APPROXIMATELY 0.7 ACRES. 
          THE EXISTING BUILDING IS SINGLE STORY IN 3,100 SQUARE FEET. 
          THE APPLICANT INTENDS TO USE THE EXISTING DRIVE THROUGH INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          THERE'S A SINGLE LANE DRIVE THROUGH THAT WRAPS AROUND THE BUILDING. 
          IT'S CURBED ALONG THE BACK, WHICH YOU SEE HERE ON THE CONCEPT PLAN. 
          UH, SO THE APPLICANT INTENDS TO USE THAT AREA AND THAT AREA CAN SUPPORT UP TO 10 VEHICLES STACKED. 
          UH, THIS SITE PROVIDES 45 PARKING SPACES. 
          LANDSCAPE IS REQUIRED AT 10% AND THEY PROVIDE 16% LANDSCAPING HERE. 
          ELEVATIONS, AS I MENTIONED, NOT MUCH IS CHANGING OTHER THAN THE ADDITION OF THE PATIO SEEN ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THIS FIRST FACADE. 
          UH, ALSO ON THIS SOUTH FACING FACADE ARE THE PICKUP WINDOWS, THEN THE NORTH FACADE WHERE YOU ALSO SEE THE NEW PATIO. 
          AND THEN HERE IS THE EAST FACADE FACING SHERMAN STREET, WHICH WILL BE IMPROVED WITH THAT NEW PATIO. 
          SO THE FIRST PART OF THE REQUEST IS THE USE REQUEST, UH, AND THAT IS RELATED TO THE SPECIAL PERMIT, UH, THAT WOULD BE RELATED TO THE DRIVE-THROUGH USE FOR THE RESTAURANT. 
          SO IF APPROVED, THE SPECIAL PERMIT WOULD BE LIMITED TO IOT RESTAURANT. 
          THEY ARE THE, UM, THE PROPERTY OWNER REPRESENTS THEM AS THE APPLICANT. 
          A BUILDING PERMIT MUST BE OBTAINED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE. 
          THE MAXIMUM AL OF HOURS OF OPERATION WOULD BE LIMITED FROM 9:00 AM TO 10:00 PM. 
          THEN ALSO ANOTHER CONDITION WAS ADDED HERE IN BOLD. 
          THIS WAS ADDED FROM THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION, THEIR RECOMMENDATION WAS THAT THE PLAN, GET THE PROJECT, GET APPROVED CONTINGENT ON THIS CONDITION BE INCLUDED, THAT THE DRIVE-THROUGH BE LIMITED TO MOBILE, MOBILE ORDER PICKUP ONLY. 
          AND NO SPEAKER OR OUTSIDE MENU BOARDS SHALL BE PERMITTED LIKE A TRADITIONAL FAST FOOD STYLE RESTAURANT. 
          FROM WHAT AYAT HAS TOLD US, THIS IS MORE OF A FAST CASUAL STYLE RESTAURANT, SO IT'S LESS FAST FOOD. 
          UM, SO THE CPC THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE A BETTER FIT FOR THEM AND HAVE, UM, THIS INSTEAD OF A TRADITIONAL DRIVE-THROUGH. 
          SO ALSO THE OTHER PART OF THE REQUEST IS FOR A SPECIAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO ADDRESS EXISTING NONCONFORMITIES ON THE SITE. 
          THESE ARE ELEMENTS OF THE SITE THAT DON'T CONFORM WITH THE MAIN STREET PD CODE. 
          SINCE THIS IS AN EXISTING SITE, THERE'S MANY ELEMENTS THAT DON'T COMPLY WITH THE CODE. 
          SINCE THIS PROPERTY DID DEVELOP IN 1994, THOSE ELEMENTS ARE DESCRIBED IN THE STAFF REPORT AND LISTED HERE. 
          A LOT OF THOSE RELATE TO THE LOCATION OF THE BUILDING. 
          IT'S NOT WITHIN THE BILL TWO ZONE, LIKE THE NEWER DEVELOPMENT SHOULD BE, OR LIKE THE CODE CALLS FOR. 
          ALSO RELATED TO THE STREET SCAPE STANDARDS, THE CODE REQUIRES THE STREET SCAPE ALONG SHERMAN AND WEST SPRING VALLEY TO BE IMPROVED WITH AN AMENITY, A LANDSCAPE AMENITY ZONE, AND A SIDEWALK, AN EIGHT FOOT WIDE SIDEWALK IS REQUIRED ON SHERMAN STREET. 
          THERE'S CURRENTLY A FIVE FOOT WIDE SIDE SIDEWALK THERE. 
          AND THEN ON WEST SPRING VALLEY, A 12 FOOT WIDE SIDEWALK IS REQUIRED IN ADDITION TO AN AMENITY ZONE. 
          AND THERE'S CURRENTLY A FIVE FOOT WIDE SIDEWALK ALONG WEST SPRING VALLEY. 
          AND WHAT THE APPLICANTS HAVE TOLD US IS OTHER THAN THE PATIO, THEY DON'T INTEND ON MAKING ANY OTHER SITE MODIFICATIONS. 
          UM, AND SO THEY HAVE REQUESTED THESE EXCEPTIONS. 
          THEY ALSO HAVE SPECIFICALLY CALLED OUT THIS AREA ALONG WEST SPRING VALLEY WHERE THE STREETSCAPE CALLS FOR A 12 FOOT WIDE SIDEWALK. 
          TODAY THERE'S A FIVE FOOT WIDE SIDEWALK AS WELL AS A RETAINING WALL THAT YOU SEE HERE IN THE PHOTO AND SOME CITY UTILITIES THAT ENCUMBERED THIS AREA THAT WOULD, MAY HAVE TO BE RELOCATED IF THEY WERE TO GO THROUGH THAT, UM, PROCESS OF WIDENING THE SIDEWALK. 
          SO THEY HAVE ASKED FOR A RE AN EXCEPTION FOR THAT ONE AS WELL. 
          SO IN SUMMARY, THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION VOTED FOUR TO THREE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL. 
          UH, AS LONG AS THE DRIVE THROUGH IS LIMITED TO MOBILE OR OR ONLINE ORDER PICKUP ONLY, NO MENU BORDER SPEAKER SHALL BE PERMITTED. 
          WE'VE RECEIVED FIVE PUBLIC COMMENTS AND STATE IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST, CITY COUNCIL MAY APPROVE THE ZONING FILE IN ORDINANCE AS PRESENTED. 
          UH, 
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THE ORDINANCE THAT IS DRAFTED THAT YOU HAVE TODAY INCLUDES CITY PLAN COMMISSION'S CONDITION FOR MOBILE ORDER ONLY PICKUP. 
          THE APPLICANT IS STILL REQUESTING TRADITIONAL DRIVE THROUGH SERVICE. 
          UM, SO IF YOU WERE TO CHANGE ANY OF THE CONDITIONS IN THE ORDINANCE OR THAT CONDITION IN PARTICULAR, THAT SHOULD BE SPECIFIED WITH YOUR, UM, MOTION. 
          AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF COUNCIL MEMBER CORLAND? UH, THANK YOU MR. MAYOR, REALLY QUICKLY I CAN, THIS IS SOMETHING I'M NOT REALLY FAMILIAR WITH, WITH DEED RESTRICTIONS. 
          AND SO SPECIFICALLY ON THIS PROPERTY, THE DEED RESTRICTION THAT LIKE NO BUSINESS THAT GOES IN THERE CONSERVE LIKE 80, LIKE 15% OF THEIR BUSINESS OR LESS SOMETHING ABOUT HAMBURGERS, RIGHT? LIKE, LIKE 85% OF THEIR BUSINESS CAN'T BE HAMBURGERS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          DO YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, DEREK? I DO. 
          AND THE APPLICANT CAN SPEAK TO THAT MORE SINCE THE CITY WASN'T INVOLVED WITH THAT. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          SURE. 
          BUT, BUT THEY WILL HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON THAT RESTRICTIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          I DIDN'T KNOW RESTRIC, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD KNOW ABOUT OR THAT'S AN APPLICANT THING ENTIRELY. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          MM-HMM . 
          COUNCIL MEMBER DOAN. 
          UM, I JUST WANT TO ASK A QUESTION BACK ON THE 12, UH, OR 12 FOOT SIDEWALK. 
          IS, IS THE MAIN OBJECTIVE HERE IS THAT IT CAN'T BE DONE OR IT CAN BE DONE? EXCUSE ME. 
          UM, THEIR, THEIR OBJECTION IS IT WOULD BE MICRO VERY OH, OH, YOUR MICROPHONE. 
          THEIR OBJECTIVE OB UH, OBJECTION IS THAT IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT TO RELOCATE THE RETAINING WALL, MAKE MODIFICATIONS TO THE SITE TO ACCOMMODATE, BUT THERE IS ROOM TO DO IT. 
          A LOT OF MODIFICATIONS WOULD NEED TO BE MADE ON SITE, INCLUDING SHIFTING THE PARKING, WHICH MAY SHIFT THE FIRE LANE. 
          SO IT COULD POTENTIALLY BE DONE. 
          THERE IS ROOM TO DO IT. 
          I THINK THE OTHER MATTER TO CONSIDER IS THAT THEY WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO DO EXTENSIVE SITE GRADING AND HOW THE REST OF THE SITE SITS MUCH HIGHER UP, PROBABLY ABOUT SIX FEET, YOU KNOW, UP TO SIX FEET HIGHER THAN THAN THE STREET GRADE. 
          AND SO THERE WOULD BE A LOT I THINK INVOLVED IN, IN DOING THAT, UM, AND MAKING ALL THAT WORK. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UM, WHAT ABOUT THE EIGHT FOOT SIDEWALK ON I'M SHERMAN, THAT LOOKS LIKE IT COULD BE MORE DOABLE OR EASIER, I GUESS I SHOULD SAY. 
          THEY DON'T, THEY HAVEN'T SAID IF THEY HAVE A PARTICULAR OBJECTION ON THAT ONE, BUT THEY JUST SAID THEY DON'T PLAN ON MAKING ANY SIDE IMPROVEMENTS. 
          I MEAN, I ONLY MAKE THIS COMMENT BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, ADVOCATING FOR, FOR WIDER SIDEWALKS THROUGHOUT, UH, RICHARDSON IS AS WE REDEVELOP AND, UM, WE REFORMAT SOME OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          SO I JUST WANNA BRING THAT UP FRONT. 
          THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER SHEEL. 
          THANK YOU MR. MAYOR AND THANK YOU FOR PRESENTING THIS. 
          UH, WELL, COUNCIL MEMBER DORIAN ASK, UH, THE, ABOUT THE SIDEWALK. 
          SO I WOULD LIKE TO GET LITTLE MORE CLARIFICATION. 
          EVEN, EVEN IF YOU HAVE TO DO SIDEWALK ON THE RETAINING WALL SIDE, BASICALLY IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, YOU CAN JUST CUT A PORTION OF IT. 
          YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO ALL THE REGRADING OF THE PARKING LOT AND EVERYTHING. 
          YOU HAVE TO DOS, YOU KNOW, ALL THE DESIGN LIKE SHIFTING THE FIRE, FIRE LINE, PARKING, ALL THOSE NEED TO BE DONE. 
          BUT BASICALLY YOU CAN JUST SLICE IT INTO THE RETAINING WALL AND BUILD IT. 
          YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO REGRADE THE WHOLE PROPERTY. 
          MAYBE THAT'S ANOTHER WAY TO DO IT, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO. 
          BUT THAT'S, AGAIN, THAT'S ANOTHER ENGINEERING SIDE HUB. 
          AND NOW THIS QUESTION WAS ASKED DURING THE CPC MEETING. 
          I JUST WANTED TO GET CLARIFICATION AGAIN. 
          UH, THERE ARE MULTIPLE NON-CONFORMING CONDITION THERE. 
          SO IF THEY WOULD HAVE TO START ANYTHING THERE, DO THEY HAVE TO DO, UH, LIKE SOMETHING THEY CAN DO BY, RIGHT? MM-HMM . 
          DO THEY HAVE TO IMPROVE THOSE THINGS BEFORE THEY CAN DO UH, NO. 
          IF THEY WERE GOING IN THERE WITH A USE BY RIGHT. 
          AND THEY WERE NOT MAKING ANY SITE MODIFICATIONS LIKE THE PATIO ADDITION, THEN THEY WOULD NOT BE HELD TO THOSE ADDITIONAL STANDARDS. 
          OKAY. 
          JUST NO NEED FOR IT IF THEY CAN DO THAT BY, RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR PRO TEMP, JUST CLARIFICATION, THEY COULDN'T DO THE DRIVE THROUGH WITHOUT APPROVAL, CORRECT? CORRECT. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF? I WAS GONNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT LANDSCAPING, BUT IT CAN MOST LIKELY WAIT FOR THE APPLICANT. 
          PERFECT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SO, UH, IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE FOR STAFF, IS THE APPLICANT HERE AND AVAILABLE TO SPEAK? WELCOME. 
          IF YOU'LL START OFF WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND WE'LL TAKE IT FROM THERE. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU COUNSEL. 
          MY NAME 
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IS JOHN MARTINI. 
          I'M A REAL ESTATE BROKER HERE ON BEHALF OF THE DEVELOPER, SAMMY JA GREEN. 
          AND WANTED TO JUST ADD SOME COMMENTARY TO ONE, THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND ALSO THE SPECIAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR YOUR ALL'S CON CONSIDERATION. 
          SO I JUST, FIRST I WANNA GIVE A LITTLE BACKSTORY ON, ON WENDY'S ITSELF. 
          UM, THIS WENDY'S WAS A FORCED CLOSURE BY WENDY'S CORPORATE AS PART OF A LARGER 50 UNIT, UM, SALE. 
          IT WAS LISTED FOR LEASE IN 2023 WITH DEED RESTRICTIONS PLACED ON IT BY WENDY'S. 
          CORPORATE SALES OF HAMBURGERS AND OR CHICKEN SANDWICHES WERE RESTRICTED FOR 10 YEARS. 
          IT SAT VACANT IT FOR 24 MONTHS, PRIMARILY DUE TO THE DEED RESTRICTION. 
          THE LOCAL DEVELOPER, SAMMY RINE AND MYSELF, CONVINCED WENDY'S TO SELL IT VERSUS LEASE IT. 
          AND THE DEVELOPER INVEST INVESTED QUITE A BIT OF MONEY TO REVITALIZE THE SITE. 
          WE, THE DEVELOPER, ALSO HAD TO FILE A CRIMINAL TRESPASS AFFIDAVIT WITH THE CITY OF TO DEAL WITH THE HOMELESS ENCAMPMENTS THAT THEY WERE USING THE TRES DUMPSTER AREA TO LIVE IN. 
          AND THE, THE DEVELOPER WAS ABLE TO BRING A MEDITERRANEAN RESTAURATEUR TO THE SITE TO IAT TO BRING THIS BUSINESS UP TO, TO FRUITION. 
          WITH REGARD TO THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT, I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT IT AT THE CPC, HOWEVER, WE WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT WE MODIFY THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT SO THAT THE ENTITLEMENT FOR THE DRIVE-THROUGH RUNS WITH THE, THE LAND, THE PROPERTY OWNER, RATHER THAN BEING LIMITED TO THE SPECIFIC RESTAURANT OPERATOR OR LEASEE. 
          THE ADJUSTMENT ALIGNS WITH PLANNING PRECEDENTS IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY AND ENSURES CLARITY AND CONSISTENCY FOR FUTURE TENANCY AND PROPERTY INVESTMENT. 
          I HAVE SOME JUSTIFICATIONS FOR THE SUP TO RUN WITH THE LAND. 
          WE WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVE THE DRIVE THROUGH SUP TO RUN WITH THE LAND BASED ON THE FOLLOWING, CONSISTENCY WITH DEVELOPMENT GOALS. 
          THE RAILSIDE SUBDISTRICT ALLOWS FOR MIXED COMMERCIAL USES WITH STRUCTURED CONDITIONS. 
          THIS USE ALIGNS WITH THE CORRIDOR'S ECONOMIC REVITALIZATION EFFORTS. 
          TWO, OPERATIONAL FLEXIBILITY AND PROPERTY VALUE PRESERVATION. 
          RUNNING THE SEP WITH THE LAND ALLOWS THE PROPERTY OWNER TO SECURE LONG-TERM TENANTS WITHOUT REQUIRING REPEATED PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR EACH OPERATOR. 
          THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT IN THE EVENT THAT THIS OP THIS PARTICULAR RESTAURANT DOES NOT SUCCEED. 
          WE HOPE THAT THAT'S NOT THE CASE. 
          HOWEVER, IF IT DOESN'T, WE'RE GONNA BE RIGHT BACK HERE ASKING FOR IT AGAIN, IF NOT APPROVED TO RUN WITH THE LAND. 
          THE, IT'S NUMBER THREE, COMPLIANCE WITH THE SITE STANDARDS. 
          THE SITE MEETS ALL DIMENSIONAL CIRCULATION AND LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS PER CURRENT CODE. 
          FOUR, NO NEGATIVE IMPACT ON SURROUNDING AREA. 
          THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF NUISANCE OR DISRUPTION FROM DRIVE THROUGH ACTIVITY. 
          OPERATIONS WILL REMAIN CONSISTENT REGARDLESS OF TENANT BRANDING. 
          AS FAR AS TENANT TRAFFIC AND CIRCULATION CONSIDERATIONS. 
          WE DID A TRAFFIC STUDY, UM, ON THAT, UH, FROM WHAT THE PROPOSED RESTAURANT IS WITH WHAT, UH, WENDY'S WAS. 
          THE KEY FINDINGS OF THE STUDY INCLUDE ONE, THE PROPOSED RESTAURANT WILL GENERATE APPROXIMATELY 449 FEWER DAILY TRIPS THAN THE FORMER WENDY'S. 
          TWO PEAK HOUR REDUCTIONS INCLUDE 20 FEWER TRIPS IN THE AM AND 22 FEWER IN THE PM THREE. 
          THE PROPOSED CONCEPT INCLUDES FEWER SEATS 65 THAN THE FORMER OPERATION OF 88, CONTRIBUTING TO REDUCED DEMAND. 
          FOUR, NO, NO MODIFICATIONS TO EXISTING ROADWAYS OR TRAFFIC INFRASTRUCTURE ARE RECOMMENDED. 
          THE FINDINGS SUPPORT THE CONCLUSION THAT THE DRIVE-THROUGH REUSE WILL NOT NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY OR VEHICULAR CIRCULATION, AND REPRESENTS A LOWER TRAFFIC BURDEN THAN THE PRIOR USE. 
          THE FULL MEMORANDUM CAN BE PROVIDED UPON REQUEST WEST TRAFFIC AND PEDESTRIAN SAFETY ANALYSIS. 
          UH, THE ANALYSIS THAT WE HAD, UH, ONE VEHICLE INGRESS EGRESS IS SEPARATED FROM PEDESTRIAN CROSSWALKS. 
          TWO SIDEWALKS REMAIN UNINTERRUPTED. 
          THREE DRIVE THROUGH STACKING IS SUFFICIENT TO AVOID SPILLOVER INTO THE DRIVE AISLES OR PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. 
          FOUR, NO VEHICLE MOVEMENTS CROSS PRIMARY PEDESTRIAN ACCESS PATHS. 
          FINALLY, SOME OF THE BENEFITS IT GENERATES SALES TAX REVENUE. 
          IT CREATES JOBS, IT PROVIDES GOODS AND SERVICES FOR RESIDENTS, PEDESTRIANS, AND DART RIDERS. 
          FOUR, 
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CONVENIENCE FOR WOMEN WITH CHILDREN IN THEIR CARS TO PICK UP FOOD. 
          ALSO CONVENIENT FOR THE ELDERLY NOT TO HAVE TO GET OUT OF THEIR CARS. 
          SIX, QUICK SERVICE FOR MANY OF THE VEHICLES TRAVELING TO AND FROM WORK ON LIGHTLY ON HIGHLY TRAFFICKED SPRING VALLEY SEVEN SUPPORTS DEVELOPERS WHO TAKE RISKS TO REVITALIZE THE AREA. 
          AND EIGHT, IN THE UNFORTUNATE EVENT OF ANOTHER COVID TYPE SHUTDOWN. 
          RECALL, DRIVE-THROUGHS SAVED MANY RESTAURANTS. 
          FINALLY, DEVELOPER CONCERNS IF DRIVE-THROUGH IS NOT GRANTED. 
          THE DEVELOPER INVESTED A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY TO REVITALIZE THIS LOCATION AND WITHOUT THE DRIVE THROUGH JEOPARDIZES HIS INVESTMENT DEVELOPER'S LEASE WAS PREDICATED ON A DRIVE THROUGH AND TENANT COULD WALK AWAY FROM THE LEASE LEAVING THE PROPERTY VACANT. 
          THUS, A NON-INCOME PRODUCING PROPERTY HOMELESS ARE CON, ARE A CONTINUED NUISANCE WITH VACANT, WITH, WITH VACANT AND OUR DIS VACANT BUILDINGS AND OUR DESTRUCTIVE BREAKING DOORS AND WINDOWS LOITERING AND MAKING ENCAMPMENTS IN THE TRASH AREA. 
          24 MONTHS OF THE PREVIOUS BROKER'S ATTEMPTS TO LEASE THE PROPERTY WERE UNSUCCESSFUL PRIMARILY TO, TO WENDY'S DEED RESTRICTION. 
          AND DE DEVELOPER WILL STRUGGLE TO LEASE THE SPACE. 
          THE DEED RESTRICTION COUPLED WITH NO DRIVE THROUGH SEVERELY HANDICAPS THIS LOCATION, A HARDSHIP WHICH COULD ULTIMATELY RESULT IN A VACANT, HIGHLY VISIBLE HARD CORNER OF THE CITY. 
          ONE THING THAT WE DON'T WANT IS TO SEND A MESSAGE TO DEVELOPERS AND REAL ESTATE BROKERS. 
          THE CITY'S NOT SUPPORTIVE OF COMMUNITY BENEFIT OR ECONOMIC REUSE ACTIVATION. 
          ONE ACTIVATION OF A VACANT SITE, ELIMINATING AN EYESORE AND BLIGHT FACILITATING ECONOMIC REVITALIZATION. 
          TWO, FULFILLING LOCAL NEEDS. 
          RAILSIDE HAS RELATIVELY FEW DRIVE-THROUGH RESTAURANTS. 
          AND THREE, SUSTAINABLE ADAPTIVE REUSE, ADAPTING BUILDINGS FOR MODERN USE, LEVERAGING PRIVATE INVESTMENT TO IMPROVE PROPERTIES IN THE CITY. 
          AND INTERIM REUSES, KEEP THE AREAS ACTIVE AND SAFE WITHOUT UNDERMINING THE LONG-TERM PLANS OF THE CITY. 
          SO WITH THAT ON THE THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT, WE WOULD REQUEST THAT YOU CONSIDER ALLOWING ONE, THAT IT GOES WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER, AND TWO, THAT YOU ALLOW FULL USE OF THAT DRIVE THROUGH AS IT WAS PREVIOUSLY BEFORE, AND IS EVEN LESS OF AN ENCUMBRANCE THAN IT WAS PREVIOUSLY. 
          ALSO, I'D LIKE TO NOW TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SPECIAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. 
          SO THE DEVELOPER AND THE RESTAURATEUR IS WANTING TO ADD THE PATIO ON THE, ON THE, UH, WEST LOOKING SIDE THAT FACES SOUTH SHERMAN STREET TO CREATE A MORE FRIENDLY, PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY PATIO AND MAKE THIS BUILDING LOOK A LITTLE BIT NICER. 
          AND SO WHAT, WITHOUT US DOING THAT WITH, THERE'S NO, NO, NO CHANGE ON THE SITE IS REQUIRED. 
          THEREFORE, IF THE, IF THE DEVELOPER AND OR THE RESTAURATEUR DECIDE NOT TO PUT THE PATIO OUT THERE, ALL THIS IS A MUTE POINT. 
          SO DESPITE THE FACT THAT WE HAVE THE SPECIAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN IN PLACE FOR US, IF WE DECIDE TO USE THE, THE, THE ADDITION OF THE PATIO, WE, THEY COULD WALK AWAY FROM IT AND IT, WE WON'T HAVE THIS DISCUSSION. 
          SO MORE SPECIFICALLY, SPEAKING OF THE SIDEWALKS, I THINK THAT DEREK PRESENTED THE ONE WITH THE POLES THERE. 
          AND SO YOU HAVE EXISTING UTILITY POLES, YOU HAVE RETAINING WALLS, YOU HAVE TREES. 
          SO MAKING A 12 FOOT SIDEWALK IS REALLY NOT FEASIBLE. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, MOVING THE RETAINING WALL BACK OR, YOU KNOW, CHANGING THE ELEVATION IS IT'S JUST NOT FEASIBLE. 
          AND CHANGE AND MOVING UTILITIES. 
          WHO'S GONNA, WHO'S GONNA MOVE THE UTILITIES? I MEAN, IS THAT US? IS THAT Y'ALL? WHO, WHO IS THAT? SO, WITH RESPECT, I WANNA POINT OUT THAT THE CITY DID NOT CREATE EIGHT FOOT SIDEWALKS ON SOUTH SERMON STREET OR 12 FOOT SIDEWALKS ON SPRING VALLEY WHEN RECENTLY UPDATING THE STREET SIGNALS AND TRAFFIC UTILITY BOXES. 
          NOR DID THEY DO THAT ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER. 
          ADDITIONALLY, THESE OBSTACLES TO MAKING REQUIRED CHANGES, IT JUST CREATES MORE PROBLEMS AND REQUIRING A DEVELOPER TO NOW DO IT SEEMS DUPLICITOUS ON THE SPECIAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, THE REQUESTED EXCEPTIONS, I THINK IN YOUR STAFF REPORT YOU HAD THE THINGS THAT DE OUTLINED TO YOU. 
          THE BUILD TWO ZONE, IT'S NOT FEASIBLE, IT'S AN EXISTING BUILDING. 
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THE BUILDING FRONTAGE BUILD OUT. 
          IT'S NOT FEASIBLE. 
          IT'S AN EXISTING BUILDING, BLANK BUILDING FACADE. 
          WEST BUILDING IS A WALK-IN COOLER AND A SERVICE ENTRANCE AND IS ONLY PARTIALLY VISIBLE FROM SPRING VALLEY BUILDING GLAZING. 
          IN ADDITION TO THE SLIDING GLASS DOORS, IF WE WERE TO PUT THE PATIO IN, WE COULD PROPOSE FOLDABLE RETRACTABLE DOORS, WINDOWS FOR THE PATIO AS WELL, INCREASING THE AMOUNT GREATER THAN 11 POINT 0.2%. 
          THE AMENITIES, THE AMENITIES ZONE, IT'S NOT FEASIBLE GIVEN UTILITY POLES, RETAINING WALLS, STREET LIGHT, STREETLIGHT POLES AND STREETLIGHT, UTILITY BOXES. 
          THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER, OR EXCUSE ME, A SIDEWALK WIDTH, SAME AS THE ABOVE LANDSCAPE BUFFER ELIMINATES EXISTING PARKING SPOTS. 
          IF WE WERE TO PUT THAT IN THERE, THE INTERIOR PARKING LOT, LANDSCAPE ISLANDS, AGAIN, ELIMINATES EXISTING PARKING SPACES. 
          WE WILL BE DOING, UPGRADING THE LANDSCAPING AROUND THE BUILDING TO MAKE THE LANDSCAPING LOOK BETTER. 
          UH, BUSHES, UH, THOSE THINGS. 
          AND THEN THE PARKING SETBACK SPRING VALLEY ON THE, THE PARKING SETBACK ON SPRING VALLEY. 
          IT'S A TWO FOOT VARIANCE. 
          IT'S A 10 FOOT, WE'RE AT 8 2 2 FEET. 
          SEEMS A LITTLE INSIGNIFICANT FOR WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO, TO FIX THAT. 
          AND SO AGAIN, WITHOUT THESE, WITHOUT US PUTTING THIS PATIO TO ENHANCE THE PROPERTY WITH A MORE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY LOOK AND FEEL, NO CHANGES ARE REQUIRED. 
          EVERYTHING REMAINS THE SAME. 
          YOU HAVE A PROVEN LAND DEVELOPER, LOCAL DEVELOPER, SAMMY DE GREENE. 
          HE HAS, AND I APOLOGIZE THAT I DID NOT GET THE PRESENTATION TO YOU ALL IN TIME. 
          I DO HAVE MANY PICTURES HERE TO PRESENT THIS. 
          WE WERE ALSO UNABLE, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO PASS OUT A PACKET BECAUSE MY MISTAKE, I DIDN'T GET IT IN TIME. 
          HOWEVER, IT IS AVAILABLE IF YOU WANNA SEE IT AT SOME POINT. 
          BUT MR. JABRE HAS TAKEN THE SOUTH SIDE OF, UH, SOUTH SHERMAN, UH, SOUTH OF SPRING VALLEY AND HAS INVESTED TIME AND MONEY REPURPOSING A HUNDRED TH 30,000 SQUARE FEET OF THAT AREA FROM OFFICE TO RETAIL, SECURING INTERNATIONAL BRANDS TO THE AREA, AND HASN'T ASKED THE CITY FOR ANYTHING. 
          NO FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE, JUST WORK WITH THEM TO REVITALIZE THE AREA. 
          WE CURRENTLY HAVE APPROXIMATELY SEVEN NEW RESTAURANTS, IF YOU INCLUDE A O COMING TO THAT QUARTER ON SOUTH SHERMAN STREET. 
          AND AGAIN, HE'S ALSO DONE, JASMINE, THAT I THINK YOU ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH. 
          IT'S BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL AND IDEAL MD, WHICH IS A PRIME PRIMA CARE AND MED SPA. 
          SO YOU HAVE A PROVEN DEVELOPER THAT IS TRYING TO HELP THE CITY REVITALIZE THIS. 
          AND WE'RE JUST SIMPLY ASKING THAT YOU ALLOW THE DRIVE THROUGH THAT IS NO MORE OF A NUISANCE THAN IT WAS IN THE PAST. 
          AND MATTER OF FACT, IT'S LESS. 
          AND THAT IF WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE HOOPS TO MAKE ALL THESE CHANGES, PERHAPS WE JUST DON'T DO THE PATIO. 
          WHAT WOULD BE BETTER? THAT'S ALL I HAVE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? UH, MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHIN? NOT A QUESTION, BUT JUST WANNA MAKE SURE YOU HEARD WHAT I ASKED, UM, DEREK, IS THAT YOU WOULDN'T, IF YOU JUST GO FORWARD AND DON'T PUT THE PATIO, YOU STILL DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO PUT IN THE DRIVE THROUGH. 
          YOU RECOGNIZE THAT WE DO. 
          OKAY. 
          I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, 'CAUSE YOU SURE WE DO. 
          YOU SAID, YOU SAID LIKE THREE TIMES THAT YOU, THAT YOU, UM, YOU WOULD GO FORWARD AND ALL OF IT WAS MOVED. 
          IT WOULDN'T ALL BE MOVED. 
          YOU WOULDN'T HAVE FOR THE SPECIAL, FOR THE SPECIAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. 
          NOT, I, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTOOD, SIR. 
          'CAUSE YES, SIR. 
          IT DIDN'T, DIDN'T SOUND LIKE THAT. 
          SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY. 
          NO, NO, IT'S OKAY. 
          JUST WANTED CLARIFY. 
          YES, SIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEAH, APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER, DORIAN. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          AND, UH, AND, AND, AND, AND JOHN MARTINI, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. 
          I APPRECIATE IT. 
          AND, AND I, AND I DO, I, YOU KNOW, I DO APPRECIATE, UH, REDEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA AND THE AREA IS GETTING SORT OF PULLED BACK TOGETHER AGAIN. 
          UH, IT'S BEEN LONG UNDERWAY. 
          UH, I DO LIKE THE NEW FACADE I DROVE BY. 
          WELL, I DRIVE BY IT EVERY DAY, BUT I, I DO LIKE THE ENHANCEMENTS. 
          UH, OF COURSE IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE THE PATIO. 
          WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF PATIOS IN RICHARDSON. 
          IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE THAT. 
          BUT I DO HAVE A COUPLE, UH, THESE, THESE ARE MY CONCERNS AND I HAVE A COUPLE, COUPLE QUESTIONS AND A COUPLE CONCERNS. 
          ONE, YOU MENTIONED 
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LANDSCAPING AROUND THE PERIMETER, WHAT TYPE OF LANDSCAPING? AND IT SAYS BUFFER HERE IN THE NOTES, BUT WHAT TYPE OF BUFFER AND WHAT TYPE OF LANDSCAPING ARE YOU DOING? IS IT JUST GONNA BE, SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU CAN SEE, UH, ABOVE THE RETAINING WALL, THERE ARE ABSOLUTELY NO BUSHES THERE IN THIS PICTURE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          IF YOU GO BY THERE TODAY, THAT ENTIRE LINE IS LINED WITH NEW BUSHES. 
          THERE'S ALSO, WE CAN DO SOME FLOWERS, WE CAN DO SOME OTHER THINGS, BUT AGAIN, IT'S A CONSTRUCTION SITE AT THIS POINT, BUT WE ARE DOING MORE LANDSCAPING. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          WILL THAT CORNER HERE, UM, THIS CORNER HERE, BE FULLY LANDSCAPED? DEFINE FULLY AS LANDSCAPED? WELL, LET PUT IT THIS WAY, IT'S A CORNER LOT AND IT GETS A LOT OF EXPOSURE. 
          AND TWO, SINCE THIS AREA IS BEING REDEVELOPED, THERE'S GOING TO BE APARTMENTS ACROSS THE STREET ON THE CORNER. 
          YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT OF WALKABILITY AND THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF PEOPLE TRAVELING UP AND DOWN SHERMAN. 
          AND I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE, UH, GONE THROUGH AND WE REDID THE FACADE DOWN THE STREET OFF OF SHERMAN, OPENED UP SOME, I THINK A COUPLE TURKISH RESTAURANTS AND SOME MEDITERRANEAN, OTHER MEDITERRANEAN RESTAURANTS. 
          BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THIS WHOLE PROJECT IS GOING TO COME TOGETHER AS THIS AREA GETS DEVELOPED. 
          AND IN ADDITION TO HAVING WIDER SIDEWALKS, WE'RE HAVING, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA HAVE AN INFILL OF PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA BE LEASING THESE APARTMENTS AND THEY'RE GONNA BE HOPEFULLY TRAVELING TO THESE BUSINESSES, WHICH OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW THAT OR YOU WOULDN'T BE DEVELOPING THESE AREAS. 
          SO WITH THAT, HOW MUCH SPACE DO WE ARE REQUIRED UNDER THE NEW MASTER PLAN AND WHAT DO WE WANT FOR THE CITY? YES, I KNOW IT'S, IT TAKES A A BIT TO, TO RELOCATE THAT. 
          AND I, BACK TO, UH, COUNCILMAN SHILL ABOUT, UH, PROVIDING, POTENTIALLY PROVIDING A SIDEWALK ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE RETAINING WALL AND POTENTIALLY EVEN LEAVING THE CURRENT SIDEWALK THAT'S THERE. 
          I KNOW THAT'S A DOABLE THING AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO EVEN WORK OR TALK TO THE CITY ABOUT IF THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY COULD BE, UM, DISCUSSED AT, UH, WELL, EARLIER ON OR LATER ON, DEPENDING ON WHAT OPPORTUNITIES WOULD LIE THERE FOR, FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT. 
          BUT POINT IS, IS THAT I'D LIKE TO SEE THIS CORNER LOT, HAVE SOME GREAT CURB, CURB APPEAL. 
          I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE IT PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY. 
          I'D LIKE THE WIDER SIDEWALKS IF WE CAN FIGURE OUT A WAY TO DO IT. 
          AND DEFINITELY THE LANDSCAPING AND, AND LANDSCAPING IS VERY IMPORTANT, OF COURSE. 
          AGAIN, THIS IS A CORNER LOT AND, AND THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS. 
          UM, AND MY QUESTION, MY, MY QUESTION WAS, IS ABOUT THE LANDSCAPING, BUT I, I GUESS YOU PRETTY MUCH ANSWERED THAT. 
          I DID DRIVE BY, I DID SEE THE BUSHES THAT JUST RECENTLY GOT PLANTED. 
          AND, UM, AND THAT'S, THAT'S ABOUT ALL AT THE MOMENT. 
          WHAT TYPE OF SIGNAGE ARE YOU PLANNING ON USING OUT FRONT? YOU GOTTA KEEP THAT, THAT KIOSK OUT ON THE FRONT AND ADAPT THAT TO THE RESTAURANT SIGNAGE. 
          IT HASN'T BEEN FULLY DISCUSSED YET. 
          UM, WE COULD POTENTIALLY USE THAT ONE, MODIFY THAT ONE, ADD ANOTHER ONE. 
          WE'RE, WE'RE NOT SURE YET. 
          WE, WE HAVEN'T GONE THAT FAR YET. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR NOW. 
          SURE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER BAR, GO AHEAD. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          I WAS JUST GONNA TELL YOU, I MEAN, I, I DO KNOW THAT THE DEVELOPER IS AMENABLE TO, YOU KNOW, IMPROVING SOME LANDSCAPES, WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, FLOWERS OR BUSHES OR SOMETHING ON THAT CORNER TO MAKE IT MORE APPEALING. 
          I KNOW THAT HE IS AMENABLE TO DOING THAT. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S RELATIVELY EASY TO DO. 
          IS SAMMY'S THE DEVELOPER? YES. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THE, OKAY. 
          UH, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT IS THE, UH, PROJECT LISTED UNDER, WHAT IS IT LISTED AS RIGHT, CURRENTLY AS A RESTAURANT? OR IS IT UNDER, UH, AN LLC? WELL, THE PROPERTY OWNER ISN'T AN LLC. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER BARRIOS. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UM, FIRST I WANNA SAY I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THAT DEVELOPER THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT WAS THE ONES ON SOUTH SHERMAN UNTIL YOU MENTIONED THAT. 
          I DO WANNA SAY IT'S A GREAT PROJECT, SO HATS OFF TO THAT TEAM THAT'S BEEN DOING ON IT. 
          AND I'VE, I WAS, UH, VERY EXCITED TO SEE ALL THE NEW BUSINESSES COMING ALONG THERE. 
          WITH THAT SAID, IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT THE DRIVE THROUGH IS A STICKING POINT. 
          AND I'M SAYING THAT BECAUSE, UM, IT LOOKS LIKE STAFF RECOMMENDED TO BE PICKUP ONLY, BUT YOU'RE KIND OF DOUBLING DOWN ON THE DRIVE THROUGH PIECE. 
          SO, AM I ACCURATE TO, TO DRAW, TO CONCLUSION, TO DRAW A CONCLUSION THAT YOU'RE, THAT THIS IS A STICKING POINT AS PART OF FIT FOR THE DEVELOPER? IT IS. 
          IT'S ALSO A STICKING POINT. 
          I WOULD NOT BE INTERESTED IN MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT, WITHOUT THAT DRIVE THROUGH IT. 
          IT'S NOT, IT, IT'S ALSO A STICKING POINT WITH THE RESTAURATEUR. 
          UM, AND AGAIN, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO AS THE DEVELOPER IS TO HAVE THAT RUN WITH THE LAND SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS IN THE EVENT THAT ANOTHER RESTAURANT HAS TO COME IN THERE. 
          THAT COULD BE POTENTIALLY, AGAIN, A DRIVE THROUGH QUICK SERVE IN COMBINATION WITH A SIT DOWN RESTAURANT. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE CPC RECOMMENDED 
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MAYBE JUST, YOU KNOW, PICK UP WALK UP WINDOW TYPE STUFF. 
          I MEAN, IF THAT'S THE ALTERNATIVE, I MEAN, THAT'S THE ALTERNATIVE. 
          THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WOULD PREFER. 
          THAT'S NOT WHAT THE, THE RESTAURATEUR WOULD PREFER. 
          AND POTENTIALLY HE COULD WALK AWAY AND THEN WE'RE RIGHT BACK TO SQUARE ONE LOOKING FOR ANOTHER TENANT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER SSO. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR WILL THANK YOU, UH, FOR PRESENTING AND CONSIDERING RICHARDSON AND DOING ALL THE GREAT WORK. 
          I LOVE THE PROJECTS THAT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET, UH, LAST YEAR I THINK WE APPROVED THAT, UH, MULTIFAMILY. 
          SO THAT MEANS, AND I WAS EXCITED BECAUSE THAT MULTIFAMILY AND WITH ANOTHER MULTIFAMILY IN THE CORNER THAT'S GOING TO BRING LOTS OF PEOPLE, UH, YOU KNOW, CLOSE TO THIS, UH, STATION. 
          AND, UH, AND EVEN THE ALL CHAIRMAN STREET, I HAVE, YOU KNOW, I THINK NOT JUST MYSELF, YOU KNOW, I, I HEARD FROM OTHER PEOPLE THAT THEY LIKE TO SEE LOTS OF PEOPLE WALK AROUND THIS CORRIDOR. 
          UH, JASMINE IS ONE OF THE GREAT PLACE, UM, YOU KNOW, I LOVE THAT AREA. 
          SOME OTHER PEOPLE I HAVE TALKED, THEY LOVE THAT RESTAURANT THE WAY THAT HAS BEEN BUILT CLOSE TO THE SIDEWALK. 
          SO, AND I WAS HOPING THAT THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT COMING IN THE FUTURE, UH, I BARELY NOTICED WENDY IS THERE. 
          I NEVER REALLY PAY ATTENTION WHEN IT WAS THERE. 
          UH, I HAVE NOT SEEN PEOPLE GO THERE BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH BUSINESS THEY DID, EVEN THOUGH THEY HAD THAT DRIVE THROUGH, BUT BARELY PEOPLE WAS THERE, SO THAT'S WHY THEY CLOSED DOWN. 
          UH, SO I WAS HOPING THAT THIS WILL GO BANKRUPT AND SOMETHING BETTER WILL COME BECAUSE OF, UH, YOU KNOW, THE LOCATION. 
          AND CITIES SPEND QUITE A BIT OF MONEY AND TIME AND WE SPEND LOTS OF HOURS UPDATING THE INVASION RESEARCH AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          SO THERE IS A REASON THAT WHY WE DID THAT. 
          AND IF WE, YOU KNOW, IF WE, AND IF WE DON'T USE IT, THEN, THEN WHY WE SPEND THAT MONEY DOING THAT. 
          SO, SO WE ALWAYS SAID THAT WE, WE MAKE THE PLAN, THEN WE FOLLOW THE PLAN. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, THAT SLOGAN THAT WE USED A LOT. 
          IT'S, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. 
          UH, SO I SEE, YOU KNOW, I, I WROTE DOWN A FEW THINGS. 
          I KNOW IT IS BEEN PRESENTED THAT THERE ARE TOTAL SEVEN THINGS TO THIS CASE. 
          UH, ONE IS LIKE THE DRIVE-THROUGH PERMIT YOU HAVE REQUESTED AND SETBACK VARIANCE, UH, EXISTING LIKE 40 FEET FROM THE CHAIRMAN, BUT THE CODE SAYS IS UP TO 15 FEET AND THEN FACET REQUIREMENTS. 
          NOW LESS WINDOW GLAZING IS ABOUT, WHAT, 11.2%? UH, CAN YOU VERIFY WHAT'S THE REQUIREMENT? IT'S NOT PRESENTED THERE. 
          SO THE REQUIREMENT IS 50%, IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, , THE REQUIREMENT IS FOR A MINIMUM OF 50% OF THE GROUND FLOOR FACADE BE COMPRISED OF WINDOW AREA. 
          OKAY? SO THAT'S MINIMUM 50% GROUND FLOOR, THAT'S THE ONLY FLOOR THEY HAVE. 
          AND THEN BLANK WALL ON THE WEST SIDE OF SPRING VALLEY FACING THE SPRING VALLEY. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE. 
          AND THEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT REDUCED SIDEWALK WEIGHTS EXISTING FIVE FEET AND, UH, REQUIRED IS EIGHT FEET AND 12 FEET. 
          AND THEN THEN LACK OF PARKING LOT LANDSCAPE ISLANDS, YOU DON'T HAVE THAT. 
          UH, THAT'S ALSO REQUIRED. 
          AND WE ARE LOOKING FOR, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU NEED TO HAVE THAT ONE. 
          AND OF COURSE THE OTHER ONE YOU MENTIONED THAT IS A 10 FEET REQUIREMENT, BUT YOU HAVE EIGHT FEET. 
          SO NO BIG DEAL. 
          SO SMALL THINGS. 
          SO THESE ARE THE SEVEN THINGS THAT I WROTE DOWN THAT IS REQUIRED THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT. 
          UH, AND THESE ALL CAME FROM THE STUDY THAT WE HAD, THAT THAT'S WHAT WE WANTED TO SEE. 
          SO I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE DONE GREAT JOB, HAS BEEN DOING GREAT JOB AND WILL BE DOING GREAT JOB IN THE FUTURE. 
          I KNOW THAT YOU'LL BE DOING THAT AND I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          BUT I DO, YOU KNOW, NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, WHERE, WHAT WE NEED TO DO BECAUSE YOU KNOW, EVERYONE, ALL THE PROPERTY OWNERS, THEY WANT TO DO SOME SOMETHING THAT THEY WANTED TO DO BEST FOR THE BUSINESS AND ALSO BEST FOR THE CITY, CERTAIN DEGREE. 
          UH, SO, AND NOW WE HAVE TO SEE WHERE WE CAN GIVE UP SOMETHING THAT SOME OF THE VISION. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. 
          SO, I MEAN, I DO UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, CPC HAD ASKED YOU THIS QUESTION BEFORE, SAME QUESTION CAME, BUT I DIDN'T SEE REALLY ANY SOLUTION. 
          THERE 
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WAS EXCUSE OR EXPLANATION WHY THIS CANNOT BE DONE OR IT'S GONNA COST MONEY, BUT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT CITY THAT YOU KNOW, IS GONNA GO, IT'S GONNA LAST BEYOND OUR OR MY LIFETIME. 
          MAYBE YOU'RE GONNA BE THERE A HUNDRED YEARS, BUT WE WANTED TO SEE THAT PEOPLE ENJOY THIS AREA MORE. 
          SO, SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEE, YOU KNOW, THAT HOW YOU'RE GONNA BE ADDRESSING THESE THINGS. 
          I KNOW THE EO IS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A GOOD THING THAT WE'RE PUTTING PET IN THE FRONT, BUT ALSO THE, I DO UNDERSTAND THAT BASED ON THE HISTORY AND OTHER CASES, EO DOESN'T REALLY DO THAT GREAT IN THE FRONT OF THE STREET, UH, STREET SIDE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THE HEAT TEXAS, US HEAT, UH, IT DOESN'T GO VERY WELL. 
          AND EVENTUALLY A SHARED REQUEST COME ON THE TOP AND, UH, THEN OTHER REQUEST COME EVENTUALLY. 
          SO IT'S, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND REALLY, YOU KNOW, HOW, YOU KNOW, OR WHAT WE CAN DO BECAUSE THOSE MULTI-FAMILY AND THE RAIL, THE DART STATION, UH, AND EVENTUALLY I KNOW THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD BE WALKING THIS PLACE AND THIS WILL BE CROWDED IF YOU HAVE THE RIGHT BUSINESS. 
          AND THIS WILL BE ALWAYS FILLED EVEN IF, IF YOU HAVE THAT PICKUP WINDOW THAT YOU HAVE, THAT IF THE DESIGN DOES NOT CHANGE, IT'S GONNA BE MISTAKEN AS DRIVE THROUGH. 
          AND THAT'S GONNA CAUSE CONFUSION. 
          AND, AND I CAN SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, LIKE THIS PLACE WITH THE RIGHT BUSINESS IS GONNA BE OVERFLOW WITH LOTS OF YOUNG KIDS. 
          I SAY KIDS, BUT YOU KNOW, IT MAY BE 20 YEARS, 25 YEARS OLD, UH, GENERATION, UH, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR A PLACE TO GO. 
          BUT IF WE DON'T CREATE THE RIGHT ENVIRONMENT, UH, YOU KNOW, I I, YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA BE HARD TIME REALLY TO EXPLAINING THIS THING IN A WAY OR HOW THIS THING HAPPENED, BUT I'LL BE LISTENING FROM OTHERS TO SEE HOW WE'RE GONNA GO. 
          BUT IF YOU HAVE SOME EXPLANATION OR IF YOU SEE THAT, YES, UH, WE CAN MAKE THIS THING BETTER BY PUTTING SIDEWALKS, UH, AND, UH, EVEN YOU, YOU REQUESTED THE DRIVE THROUGH WITH THE LAND, BUT I WOULD BE SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, REDESIGN THE DRIVE THROUGH SO THAT IT COULD BE A PICKUP WINDOW, UM, WITHOUT CAUSING TROUBLE TO THE OTHER, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THAT THEY WOULD BE WALKING AND, YOU KNOW, HAVING A PICKUP WINDOW FOR DOORDASH IS, IS A GOOD THING. 
          UH, BUT, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT DRIVE THROUGH, I THINK THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT WAY TO DO, BUT I'LL BE LISTEN FROM OTHERS. 
          SURE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER CORMAN, CAN I, CAN I ADDRESS THAT JUST FOR A SECOND? SURE. 
          SO I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS AND I ALSO RESPECT THAT YOU ARE SEEKING TO, UM, GO WITH THE, THE MONEY THAT THE CITY SPENT ON A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND TO SEE THAT PLAN TO FRUITION. 
          BUT AGAIN, I WANNA REMIND YOU THAT IF WE DO NOT DO THE PATIO, THIS IS MUTE, SO IT'S GONNA REMAIN THE SAME. 
          OKAY. 
          WHAT THAT DOES, BY NOT HELPING US WITH THESE VARIANCES, THE POTENTIAL RESTAURATEUR COULD WALK WITHOUT DOING, UH, DRIVE THROUGH. 
          HE COULD WALK. 
          I'LL ALSO REMIND YOU THAT THE CITY DID NOT DO 12 FOOT SIDEWALKS OR EIGHT FOOT SIDEWALKS WHEN THEY REDID THE SIDEWALKS FOR THE LIGHT POLES. 
          SO WHY IS IT THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE TO DO IT, BUT WE'RE BEING ASKED TO DO IT? THAT'S A GREAT, GREAT QUESTION. 
          LET ME EXPLAIN THIS THING HERE A LITTLE BIT. 
          UH, JUST RECENTLY, I'LL GIVE YOU MY PERSONAL, YOU KNOW, EXPERIENCE WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS. 
          WE JUST RECENTLY DID SOME, ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT CITY. 
          TWO YEARS AGO THEY DID THE WHOLE SIDEWALK SURROUNDING THAT HOTEL AND THEY MAINTAIN THAT WHATEVER THE REQUIREMENT OR WHATEVER THE EXISTING WAS, THEY DID NOT PUT THE UPGRADED THE SIDEWALK FIVE FEET MINIMUM. 
          IT WAS A FOUR FEET OR THREE AND A HALF FEET. 
          THEY KEPT IT SAME. 
          BUT WHEN THE NEW DOUBLE DEVELOPMENT GET, GET THERE, AND WE HAD TO MAKE SURE THAT WE FOLLOW THE UP UPDATED CODE AND, UH, UPDATED SIDEWALK, NO EXCEPTION. 
          AND WE DID IT AND THE OWNER DID IT. 
          SO THIS IS HOW THINGS DONE AROUND. 
          SO THIS IS NOT, YOU KNOW, CITI DOES A SMALL PATCH, BUT WHEN, WHEN A NEW DEVELOPMENT COMES, THEY LOOK AT THE WHOLE THING TOGETHER AND THAT'S HOW IT'S DONE. 
          SO CITY DID THE RIGHT THING AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING UNUSUAL AND IT'S BEEN DONE BY OTHER CITY ALL THE TIME, BUT WE'RE LOOKING FOR LONG TERM. 
          YEP. 
          LET'S SEE HOW THAT GOES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          JUST, JUST SEEMS COUNCILMAN JUST SEEMS DUPLICITOUS. 
          I, I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU FEEL THAT WAY AND YOU'VE MADE THAT CLEAR. 
          COUNCIL 
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MEMBER CORCORAN. 
          OH, THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. 
          JUST MR. MARTINI, REALLY QUICKLY, UM, I WAS READING OVER LIKE THE CPC MINUTES, UH, AND YOU KNOW, A COMMENT YOU MADE KIND OF STRUCK ME ABOUT THE PATIO. 
          I JUST WAS HOPING YOU COULD CLARIFY IT, UM, FOR ME, OR, OR MAYBE COMMENT ON IT. 
          SO YOU SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, THE LARGE AMOUNT OF PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY IN THIS SPECIFIC AREA WARRANTS CREATING A PATIO. 
          UM, BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALSO THE DICHOTOMY THAT WHILE A DRIVE-THROUGH IS REALLY NECESSARY FOR THIS LOCATION TO EXIST. 
          AND SO MAYBE COULD YOU JUST ELABORATE ONE MORE TIME FOR US ON WHY, YOU KNOW, SORT OF THOSE, THOSE STATEMENTS INHERENTLY SEEM A LITTLE BIT CONTRADICTORY, SO MAYBE IF YOU COULD JUST UNRAVEL THAT FOR US, UM, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. 
          I, I GUESS I WOULD JUST LEAVE IT AS THAT BOTH CAN BE TRUE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO YOU COULD HAVE THE DRIVE THROUGH AND YOU COULD HAVE THE PATIO MM-HMM . 
          SO THERE'S NOT ANY PATIOS. 
          I MEAN, JASMINE HAS SOME PATIOS, BUT RIGHT. 
          UM, BOTH CAN BE TRUE. 
          I'LL JUST LEAVE WITH THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I APPRECIATE THE BREVITY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEAH, SO ONLY THING I'LL, UH, SAY TO THE APPLICANT IS, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A FEW RESTAURANTS. 
          ONE THAT COMES TO MIND IS, IS ONE CALLED SWANNO, UH, THAT USED TO BE A DRIVE-THROUGH BURGER KING, UM, AND HAS BECOME PROBABLY ONE OF THE HOTTEST RESTAURANTS IN TOWN. 
          HAD A DRIVE-THROUGH, STILL EVEN HAS, I THINK THE PHYSICAL ASPECTS OF THE DRIVE THROUGH. 
          BUT, UH, BUT THE ENTIRE DRIVE THROUGH HAS BEEN SHUT DOWN AND IT'S NOW JUST AN ACTIVE, INCREDIBLY BUSY, UH, RESTAURANT. 
          I'VE GOT A TON, UH, OF RESPECT FOR AND, AND BELIEF IN, UH, THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY AND, AND THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO BRING SOMEONE IN HERE THAT CAN MAKE IT INCREDIBLY BUSY, UM, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT NECESSARILY HAVING TO HAVE THE DRIVE-THROUGH. 
          UM, SO I, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE PROBABLY A PART OF OUR CONVERSATION AS WE GO. 
          UM, SO I DON'T HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS FOR YOU. 
          JUST WANTED TO KIND OF MAKE THAT, THAT ONE STATEMENT. 
          IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT, UM, BE HAPPY TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND SEE IF THERE ARE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS. 
          MS. ER, I DON'T HAVE ANY CARDS, MAYOR. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE CONSIDERING CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING? YES, COUNCIL, UH, MAYOR PRO TEM, IF THERE'S NO OTHER DISCUSSION, I'D MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHEN. 
          RIDER. 
          COUNCILMAN HUMMEL? I SECONDED. 
          ALRIGHT, SO MOTION AND A SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR. 
          OKAY, THAT'S UNANIMOUS. 
          SO WE'VE CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          UM, LOVE TO HAVE SOME QUICK COUNCIL DISCUSSION, PROBABLY THE EMPHASIS ON QUICK, BUT, UH, LOVE TO, LOVE TO HEAR WHAT WE CAN, WHAT WE THINK SO FAR. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE. 
          UM, I, I APPRECIATE THE APPLICANT'S, UM, SORT OF, UH, PASSION AROUND THE POINT THAT IF WE DON'T PUT A A PATIO HERE, WE CAN DO WHATEVER WE WANT. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I, I, UM, I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          UM, I ALSO APPRECIATE THE DESIRE TO HAVE THE, UM, UH, DRIVE THROUGH RUN WITH THE LAND. 
          I UNDERSTAND THAT HISTORICALLY THIS IS A DRIVE THROUGH SINCE I THINK THE APPLICANT SAID 1994, UM, CITY'S STANDARDS CHANGE. 
          AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE STANDARDS THAT CHA THAT CHANGED. 
          AND SO IF THIS COUNCIL IS GONNA VOTE THIS FORWARD, I WOULD NOT BE IN FAVOR OF IT RUNNING WITH THE LAND. 
          I THINK IT NEEDS TO RUN WITH THE APPLICANT AND I THINK, UH, WITH THE, UH, THE TENANT AND I THINK, UM, I, I LIKE THE, UM, CPCS, UM, SUGGESTION HERE THAT IF, IF THIS IS GOING TO BE A DRIVE-THROUGH, THAT IT'D BE LIMITED TO MOBILE PICKUP ORDER. 
          UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT BOTH CAN BE TRUE, THAT THIS WILL BE PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC AND UH, YOU CAN HAVE A DRIVE-THROUGH AS WELL. 
          BUT THE REALITY IS IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE FOLKS SITTING ON THAT PATIO AND YOU HAVE A BUNCH OF CARS QUEUED FOR A TRADITIONAL DRIVE-THROUGH, UH, I DON'T THINK THAT'S AN ENVIRONMENT THAT MOST PEOPLE, UH, WOULD WANT TO ENJOY. 
          HOWEVER, AGAIN, IF THIS COUNCIL'S GOING TO APPROVE, UH, A DRIVE-THROUGH, UH, MODEL, I DON'T THINK THERE WOULD BE AS MUCH QUEUING WITH MOBILE PICKUP. 
          UM, SO I THINK THAT IT ACTUALLY IS A GOOD COMPROMISE. 
          UM, AND SO THE ONLY WAY I WOULD BE IN FAVOR, UH, OF THIS IS IF IT, IF IT, UM, IT RUNS WITH THE TENANT, UM, AS, AS THE CONDITIONS SUGGEST, SUGGESTS NOW, UM, AND THAT IT IS MOBILE OR ONLINE. 
          UH, PICK UP ONLY. 
          PICK UP ONLY. 
          ALRIGHT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER BARRIOS. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UM, I THINK I CAN BE OPEN TO THE IDEA OF THE PATIO. 
          THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT CHANGES THERE AS COUNCILMAN, UM, SHAEL POINTED OUT, I CANNOT BY ANY MEANS SUPPORT DRIVE THROUGH, UH, TO RUN WITH THE, UM, THE PROPERTY ITSELF. 
          AND IN ALL HONESTLY, I CANNOT SUPPORT EVEN A PICKUP WINDOW FOR UNDER SEP. 
          SO I WILL NOT BE VOTING FOR THIS BECAUSE OF THOSE, UH, I OR IF THOSE ARE PART OF 
          [03:25:01]
IT, I WILL NOT BE VOTING FOR IT. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER BARRIOS, JUST FOR CLARITY SAKE, OUTSIDE OF JUST THE DRIVE THROUGH PIECE, UM, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT THE REST OF IT? I LIKE, I'M HESITANT, BUT I THINK I'M OPEN TO THAT LISTENING AND LEARNING FROM THE DISCUSSION HAT. 
          FAIR ENOUGH. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER SWO. 
          UH, I'D LIKE TO SEE IF, UH, YOU KNOW, IF THE OWNER WILLING TO DO SOME SIDEWALK IN THE FRONT, UH, YOU KNOW, WIDER SIDEWALK, THEN I COULD THINK ABOUT CERTAIN THINGS. 
          BUT RIGHT NOW I THINK THE SIDEWALK IS VERY IMPORTANT. 
          UH, AND SOMEBODY HAVE TO DO IT. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHO IS THAT PERSON, BUT I LIKE TO SEE SIDEWALK HAPPENED THERE. 
          UH, BECAUSE NEXT, UH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S THE TIMEFRAME OF THAT, THOSE CONSTRUCTION, PROBABLY NEXT TWO TO THREE YEARS SOMETHING WILL HAPPEN AND ANOTHER TWO YEARS. 
          SO NEXT FIVE YEARS, I THINK THERE WILL BE FEW HUNDRED PEOPLE LIVING CLOSE BY AND WALKING OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET. 
          YEP. 
          SO ASIDE FROM THE SIDEWALK PORTION, UH, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT THE REST OF THE, UH, APPLICATION? WELL, PET IS A GREAT THINGS. 
          I CAN LIVE WITHOUT THE WINDOW, UH, GLAZING THINGS, UH, PERCENTAGE, 50%, BUT SURE, PICKUP WINDOW, I, UH, I WOULD BE OKAY WITH PICKUP WINDOW, BUT, UH, BUT MONITORING THAT PICKUP WINDOW, BRINGING TRAFFICS MANAGING TRAFFIC IS, IS THE DESIGN IS NOT THERE. 
          IT'S LIKE PEOPLE WOULD BE ENCOURAGED TO DRIVE THROUGH MAKING THAT ACTUALLY DRIVE THROUGH AND KNOWING THE CUSTOMER, NOT REALIZING THAT THAT'S NOT A DRIVE-THROUGH. 
          THEY'LL BE, THEY'RE GONNA BE ASKING FOR FOOD. 
          UH, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO MONITOR, YOU KNOW, THEY WILL BE MONITORING. 
          SO, UH, SO THOUGH THAT'S A LITTLE BIT COMPLICATED, I JUST NEED TO, I, I'LL BE WAITING TO HEAR FROM OTHERS. 
          UH, BUT I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD GO FIRST. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER BARRIOS, UH, THE WINDOWS, UM, THAT, UH, COUNCILMAN EFIN, UH, REFERRED TO IS ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT BIGGER OF A STICKING POINT FOR ME. 
          AND OVERALL THERE'S JUST TOO MANY, TOO MANY CONCERNS HERE FOR ME TO VOTE FOR THIS PROJECT. 
          I JUST WANNA UPDATE MY RESPONSE THERE. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UM, COUNCIL MEMBER, DORIAN, DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS THAT YOU WANNA SHARE AT ALL ON, ON THE PROJECT? I DO, AND I JUST, YOU KNOW, ONE OTHER THING AND I, AND I, AND I CAN ACTUALLY, I THINK SAY THIS NOW BECAUSE OUR MEETING WAS, UH, RECORDED ON SATURDAY ABOUT OUR GOALS AND, UH, TACTICS. 
          AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE APPLIED, AND I STILL BELIEVE IN THIS, IS WE, YOU KNOW, ALL AREAS OF RICHARDSON, WE WANT VERY DIVERSIFIED TYPES OF TENANTS AND RETAILERS AND RESTAURANTS. 
          UM, AN EXAMPLE I, I GIVE, 'CAUSE EVERYBODY KNOWS THIS EXAMPLE, IS THAT WE HAVE CHICK 6, 7, 8 CHICKEN PLACES ON THE CORNER OF PLANO ROAD AND BELTLINE, AND WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER CHICKEN PLACE. 
          BUT WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE IS, I LOVE THE DIVERSITY OF RESTAURANTS, BUT RIGHT NOW THE DIRECTION OF THIS, IF I MAY SAY, IS WE'RE LEANING TOWARD ANOTHER MEDITERRANEAN, MEDITERRANEAN RESTAURANT, WHICH I LOVE MEDITERRANEAN FOOD AND I I HAVE IT WEEKLY. 
          IT'S JUST, DO, DO WE NEED ANOTHER ONE IN THIS AREA? WE ALREADY HAVE SO MANY, I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW THEY ALL STAY IN BUSINESS. 
          IT'S JUST I WAS HOPING TO MAYBE SEE SOME OTHER DIRECTIONAL TYPE BUSINESSES IN THE AREA, UM, TO, TO CREATE DIVERSITY. 
          I MEAN, I MEAN, WE'RE ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT DIVERSITY AND, UH, AND WE'RE ALL FIRM BELIEVERS IN THAT. 
          BUT I JUST WANT TO LOOK AT WHAT DOES THIS LOOK LIKE IN THE AREA? ARE WE JUST GONNA CONTINUE MOVING THIS DIRECTION? I MEAN, WE NEED TO HAVE SOME, UM, IDEA OF WHAT WE WANT EACH SECTOR OF THE CITY TO LOOK LIKE. 
          AND, AND I, AND I, I, AND I KINDA HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT, TO BE PERFECTLY HONEST. 
          I, I WAS HOPING TO SEE SOMETHING ELSE AND I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE SIDEWALK. 
          UM, I DO THINK THAT MOVING FORWARD, UH, IF, IF WE DON'T TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONSIDER THAT NOW, I MEAN, HOW'S THIS AREA GONNA REDEVELOP? I MEAN, I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS AREA FOR OVER 20 YEARS MYSELF, AND IT'S JUST NOW STARTING TO COME TO FRUITION. 
          AND, AND I, AND I LOVE WHAT'S BEING DONE AND I, I, I'LL BE THE FIRST TO SAY I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THE MONEY AND TIME THAT YOU'VE PUT INTO, UH, THIS AREA. 
          AND IT'S, IT IS STARTING TO SHAPE UP, BUT IN ORDER FOR IT TO CONTINUE TO SHAPE UP AND TO KEEP THE DIRECTION AND, AND, YOU KNOW, SORT OF INDUCE OUR MASTER PLAN, WE HAVE TO HAVE, WE NEED TO TAKE OPPORTUNITIES NOW TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. 
          UNFORTUNATELY, YES, THAT DOES COST SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDING AND, AND, AND REQUIRE SOME ADDITIONAL TIME, BUT I, I JUST NEED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE ON THE TABLE NOW 'CAUSE I WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS, THESE ARE AREAS OF HUGE CONCERN. 
          AGAIN, THIS WAS OUR SATURDAY DISCUSSION WE JUST HAD ALL DAY SATURDAY IN OUR GOALS, MEETINGS AND TACTICS. 
          SO, SO COUNCIL 
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MEMBER, DORIAN, JUST TO BE CLEAR, UH, NO SIDEWALK, UH, THE SIDEWALK IS, IS KIND OF A DEAL BREAKER FOR YOU. 
          AND, AND, UH, AS FAR AS THE DRIVE THROUGH OR ANY OF THAT SORT OF THING, ANY FEELINGS AT A HIGH LEVEL ABOUT THAT ASIDE FROM WHAT KIND OF RESTAURANT IT IS? WELL, I, I I I'M NOT FOR THE SIDE OR THE, UH, DRIVE BY VEHICLE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO NO DRIVE THROUGH AND YOUR, UH, AND MY SIDEWALK SIDEWALKS ARE IMPORTANT. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, MAYOR PROAM, I APOLOGIZE I DIDN'T CALL ON YOU NEXT. 
          YOU DID HAVE YOUR LIGHT ON EARLIER. 
          UH, NO WORRIES. 
          I ONLY HAD SNEAKING SUSPICION THAT YOU MIGHT BE MAKING A MOTION AND I THOUGHT WE WOULD HAVE A LITTLE MORE DISCUSSION FIRST. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          IS THAT WHAT YOU WERE ABOUT? OKAY, FAIR ENOUGH. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER CORCORAN. 
          NO, I MEAN I, UM, YEAH, I THINK WE NEED TO BE KIND OF CAREFUL JUST YEP. 
          YOU KNOW, I MEAN PALESTINIAN VERSUS IRAQI VERSUS TURKISH. 
          I MEAN, IT, IT MAY BE SIMILAR TO, TO US, BUT MAYBE TO, YOU KNOW, THE APPLICANT. 
          IT MAY BE A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE'S MAYBE A DIFFERENT THERE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I DO THINK, I GUESS JUST AS FAR AS THIS GO, THIS GOES NORMALLY I'M JUST SORT OF CARTE BLANCHE OPPOSED TO BUILDINGS LIKE THIS. 
          AND I THINK WE ALREADY HAVE TOO MANY OF THEM. 
          I THINK, AGAIN, THERE'S ALL, I GUESS EVERY CASE IS A LITTLE BIT UNIQUE THOUGH, RIGHT? IN THIS CASE, RIGHT? THERE'S ALREADY SOME DEED RESTRICTIONS ON THE PROPERTY. 
          UM, AND YOU KNOW, ON TOP OF THAT, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT WAS PRETTY DIFFICULT TO KIND OF PRY IT AWAY FROM WENDY'S TO BEGIN WITH, TO GET THEM TO SELL. 
          UM, AND, YOU KNOW, BEFORE THE APPLICANT CAME AND APPLIED FOR, UH, OR CAME FOR THE SPECIAL PERMIT FOR THE DRIVE THROUGH AND, AND THE MODIFICATIONS TO THE SITE, THEY DID PUT A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF WORK INTO THE BUILDING. 
          AND SO, YOU KNOW, I'M, I THINK GIVEN THOSE FACTORS, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I'M FINE WITH CPCS RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO VOTE FOR IT, SORT OF AS RECOMMENDED BY PC, BUT CERTAINLY, CERTAINLY NO FURTHER THAN THAT. 
          AND AS EVERYONE ELSE HAS INDICATED, CERTAINLY NOT WITH A SPECIAL PERMANENT RUNNING WITH THE LAND. 
          FAIR ENOUGH. 
          OKAY. 
          BEFORE WE HEAR YOUR MOTION, UM, UH, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, UH, I, I THINK IT IS ASKING A WHOLE LOT OF THE APPLICANT TO FIGURE OUT THE SIDEWALK THING. 
          I RECOGNIZE THE DESIRE AND NEED AND EVERYTHING ELSE ON OUR SIDE, BUT IT DOES FEEL LIKE A MASSIVE ENCUMBRANCE ON TOP OF THE OTHER ENCUMBRANCES OF THE, OF THE PROPERTY, UH, THAT THEY'RE INHERITING. 
          UM, I DO LOVE THE INVESTMENT. 
          I LIKE THAT THEY'VE ALREADY KIND OF STARTED DOING, UH, SOME POSITIVE THINGS AROUND, AROUND THE SITE. 
          UM, I DON'T THINK THE DRIVE-THROUGH IS GONNA BE CONDUCIVE TO DOING THE WALKING STUFF, AND I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY WHERE THE MAJORITY IS, IS MOVING ANYWAY, IN TERMS OF THE DRIVE-THROUGH PIECE OF THIS. 
          UM, AND I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE PICKUP WINDOW ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. 
          SO, UH, MY, MY ONLY CONCERN IS, IS IF WE TOTALLY, UM, REJECT THE ENTIRE CASE, IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION THIS GOES, UM, THEN WHAT WE DO PROBABLY END UP WITH IS WHAT IT IS TODAY, WHAT WITHOUT THE PATIO, UM, AND NO DRIVE THROUGH, OBVIOUSLY. 
          UM, MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE THAT IF WE WERE GONNA DO ANYTHING THAT WE COULD PASS IT WITHOUT SOME OF THOSE OTHER RESTRICTIONS. 
          BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT THE DRIVE THROUGH, LET'S SAY, UH, IF THAT'S A TURN OFF FOR ENOUGH PEOPLE, UH, BUT FIND A WAY TO GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO BECOME THE NEXT SUENO IN TERMS OF BEING BUSY, UH, AND BRINGING THAT KIND OF TRAFFIC AND, AND THAT SORT OF OPPORTUNITY THERE. 
          BUT, UH, THAT'S MY 2 CENTS AND, UH, MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHIN RIDER, I KNOW YOU'VE GOT A MOTION. 
          I'M READY TO LISTEN TO IT. 
          SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO, BEFORE YOU GO TO MOTION, CAN I ASK SOME QUESTION TO DON? IS THAT, LET'S, LET'S DO THAT AS A PART OF THE DISCUSSION, UH, A AFTER THE MOTION, IF THAT'S OKAY WITH YOU DISCUSSION? WE CAN, WE CAN, WE CAN DO THAT STILL IN THE DISCUSSION. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ZONING FILE 25 10 AS IS PRESENT, PRESENTED AND AMENDED BY THE C-P-C-I-E NO DRIVE THROUGH WINDOW ONLY A, UM, I BELIEVE THAT'S CALLED A, A PHONE IN PICKUP WINDOW. 
          THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION. 
          THAT WASN'T THE MOTION I WAS EXPECTING, BUT, UH, UH, I, I APPRECIATE THE MOTION AND, AND I'LL SECOND THAT AS WELL. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND THAT ARE TO APPROVE WHAT THE CPC APPROVED, WHICH MEANS NO DRIVE THROUGH EXCEPT FOR PICKUP AND ONLINE ORDERS. 
          UM, THERE WOULD BE NO SIDEWALK, THERE WOULD BE, UH, NONE OF THE OTHER MODIFICATIONS WOULD BE MADE. 
          SO WE'VE GOT A MOTION, WE'VE GOT A SECOND. 
          AND I'M, I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD. 
          I, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, 'CAUSE IN MY MIND LISTENING TO EVERYONE, I ALWAYS BELIEVE THAT A VERY SUCCESSFUL NEGOTIATION IS WHEN BOTH SIDES WALK AWAY, MAYBE NOT 100% HAPPY. 
          AND I KIND OF FELT LIKE SURE THAT THIS MOTION GOT US THERE. 
          FAIR ENOUGH. 
          THAT'S WHY I MADE THAT MOTION. 
          CAN I ASK COUNCIL MEMBER? YES. 
          YES. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER SAMSO. 
          UM, 
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NOW THE SIDEWALK IS IMPORTANT THERE, SO I JUST DON'T, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT, TO MY OPINION, BOTH OR WHICH ONE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? BOTH SIDEWALK IMPORTANT. 
          UH, BUT YOU KNOW, EITHER THAT HAPPENED TODAY OR DID THIS NEED TO HAPPEN TOMORROW? THIS NEED TO BE THERE. 
          OTHERWISE WE ARE PRETTY MUCH CLOSING DOWN THAT INTERCEPT THAT AREA FOR WALKABILITY IN THE FUTURE. 
          SO, SO DON, IF YOU HAVE SOME IDEA THAT, HOW THAT COULD HAPPEN, DO WE HAVE ENOUGH RIGHT OF WAY TO DO THAT? CAN CITI DO IT IN THE FUTURE OR CAN THIS BE DONE, UH, BY THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT IF, IF SOMETHING HAPPENED THERE? UH, BECAUSE OTHERWISE IF THE, THE BUSINESS WILL BE VERY SUCCESSFUL IN THAT CORNER FOR THAT KIND OF BUSINESS. 
          I, I DON'T THINK THAT'S AN ISSUE. 
          THE LOCATION IS GREAT AND WE HAVE PLENTY OF CUSTOMER WAITING FOR ANOTHER LOCATION. 
          SURE. 
          SO I DON'T THINK THE DEVELOPER WILL BE COMING AND REDOING THAT BUILDING FOR ANYTHING ELSE. 
          UH, NOT IN THE NEAR FUTURE. 
          SO, BUT WE'LL BE NEEDING THE SIDEWALK PROBABLY IN FIVE YEARS OR MAYBE SEVEN TO EIGHT YEARS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO WHAT DO YOU THINK ANY, SO I MEAN, IT, IT IS NOT ON ANY WORK PLAN. 
          UM, IT WOULD, UM, IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE A BENEFIT. 
          I MEAN, WHEN, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE, UH, US 75 MAIN STREET, UH, CODE WAS ADOPTED, IT WAS ALWAYS ENVISIONED THAT THESE IMPROVEMENTS WOULD OCCUR WITH REDEVELOPMENT, UM, IN THIS CASE A UNIQUE CASE. 
          A, YOU KNOW, ADAPTIVE REUSE THAT THESE THINGS WERE TRIGGERED BY BECAUSE OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES AROUND IT BEING DARK. 
          AND SO, UM, BUT YOU KNOW, FROM A, FROM A CITY STANDPOINT, THIS IS NOT ON ANY WORK PLAN. 
          IT WOULD BE A VERY COSTLY SECTION TO DO. 
          UM, AND, AND IF WE EXTENDED THAT EVEN FURTHER BEYOND AND TRY TO MAKE, YOU KNOW, A, A CONNECTION DOWN TO 75 WITH A 12 FOOT SIDEWALK, THEN THERE'S, I MEAN, IT, IT WOULD BE A VERY, VERY COSTLY PROJECT MOVING UTILITIES GAINING RIGHT AWAY, POTENTIALLY HAVING TO, OKAY. 
          WE DON'T HAVE RIGHT OF WAY THERE. 
          I THINK THAT'S PROPERTY BEGINS RIGHT BEHIND THE RETAINING WALL. 
          OH YEAH. 
          UH, I'M, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE RIGHT PROPERTY LINE, BUT YEAH, I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT IT APPEARS. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          SO GETTING THE RIGHT OF WAY IS GONNA BE CHALLENGING. 
          SO IF THIS WAS DEDICATED TODAY, RIGHT? WELL, AND THEN, AND THEN YOU GET INTO, ARE YOU IMPACTING THE PROPERTY ITSELF AND DO YOU HAVE TO MAKE REP, YOU KNOW, DO YOU HAVE TO MAKE, UM, UM, YEAH, THE OTHER, YEAH, I MEAN, SO IT'S, IT'S HARD TO SAY, BUT I MEAN, IF YOU GO UP AND DOWN, YOU KNOW, IF YOU TAKE THIS, THIS INTERSECTION DOWN THE 75 THERE, THERE ARE MANY, MANY OBSTACLES IN, IN TERMS OF, SO BASICALLY WE ARE GIVING UP THE SIDEWALK THEN, UH, IF WE YEAH. 
          GO FROM THERE, IT, IT WOULD, IT'S, IT'S ENVISIONED TO BE DONE WITH A, A REDEVELOPMENT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO FURTHER DISCUSSION, WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER BARRIOS. 
          YEAH, I JUST WANNA POINT OUT A COUPLE THINGS ABOUT THE MOTION ON THE TABLE. 
          UM, NOT JUST THE SIDEWALKS, BUT IN DOING THIS, WE, WE ARE COMPLETE, THERE'S ENOUGH LISTED THERE WHERE WE ARE CHANGING THE LOOK OF THIS ENTIRE ENVISIONING OF THE AREA ON TOP OF THAT BECAUSE IT'S A CORNER INTERSECTION, UH, WE ARE BASICALLY CUTTING OFF WHAT HAS BEEN APPROVED TO THE SOUTH, WHICH ARE THOSE APARTMENTS AND THE DEVELOP, THAT'S ALREADY THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S ALREADY OCCURRED TO THE NORTH. 
          IT AS FAR AS FLOW AND TRAFFIC FLOW AND PEDESTRIAN AND BIKE FLOW. 
          WE ARE LITERALLY CUTTING OFF THIS WHOLE ENVISIONING OF THIS AREA. 
          SO KEEP IN MIND AS WE VOTE ON THIS, THE WAY THE MOTION SITS, THIS DOES ABSOLUTELY CHANGE THIS WHOLE VISION FOR THIS AREA. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER CORCORAN, WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY IT CUTS OFF THE TRAFFIC FLOW? I CAN UNDERSTAND THE PEDESTRIAN FLOW COMMENT. 
          WHAT DO YOU MEAN WHAT? THE TRAFFIC FLOW, MEANING PEDESTRIAN, PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC. 
          FAIR. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALRIGHT, SO WE HAVE A MOTION, UH, BY MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHIN RIDER, UH, SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER DORIAN, UH, IF THERE'S NO OTHER DISCUSSION, ALL IN FAVOR? ALL OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, IT PASSES FOUR TO THREE. 
          UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT I HAVE TO SAY ANYTHING ELSE ABOUT THAT ONE, DO I? YES SIR. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          CONGRATULATIONS TO THE APPLICANT AND WE SHALL MOVE ON, UH, TO, UH, AND I'M SORRY, UH, THE THREE OPPOSED, UH, WERE, COULD YOU RE RAISE YOUR HANDS? OKAY, THAT WAS, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER BARRIOS. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER SHA AND MYSELF. 
          ALRIGHT, UH, MOVING ON. 
          [10. PUBLIC HEARING, ZONING FILE 25-11, AND CONSIDER AN ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE TO  GRANT A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR I-M(1) INDUSTRIAL TO  PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR I-M(1) INDUSTRIAL WITH DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS FOR  A 66.56-ACRE LOT LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF BRECKINRIDGE BOULEVARD  AND TELECOM PARKWAY, RICHARDSON, TEXAS.]
WE'VE GOT ITEM NUMBER 10, WHICH IS A PUBLIC HEARING ZONING FILE 25 DASH 11 AND CONSIDER AN ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE TO GRANT A CHANGE IN ZONING LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF BRECKENRIDGE BOULEVARD AND TELECOM PARKWAY. 
          MR. MAGNER. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          UH, DEREK IS GONNA ONCE AGAIN STAFF THIS FOR THE CITY. 
          THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND BASED ON SOME CONVERSATION, UM, THAT WAS HAD, UH, SUBSEQUENT TO CPC, I THINK HE HAS SEVERAL THINGS HE 
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WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT TO YOU, UM, THAT MAY RESULT IN, UH, MODIFICATIONS FROM EVEN THE CPC RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          SO, UM, I THINK IT'D BE PRUDENT TO KIND OF HEAR THAT, UM, FROM HIM AND THEN TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION BEFORE YOU DISCUSS, UH, OR YOU BEGIN YOUR DELIBERATIONS. 
          DEREK. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ZONING FILE 25 11 IS FOR THE SUBJECT SITE AT 28 0 1 TELECOM PARKWAY. 
          THE SUBJECT SITE IS CURRENTLY ZONED, IM ONE INDUSTRIAL WHICH ALLOWS FOR MANUFACTURING, ASSEMBLY, WAREHOUSE DISTRIBUTION, AND OFFICE BY RIGHT. 
          THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A REZONE TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT FOR THE IM ONE DISTRICT WITH MODIFIED DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS TO ACCOMMODATE A TALLER BU BUILDING AND A REDUCED PARKING RATIO. 
          THE PROPOSED USE, WHICH INCLUDES MANUFACTURING, ASSEMBLY, AND WAREHOUSE AND OFFICE, IS ALLOWED BY WRIGHT, AS I MENTIONED. 
          UM, UH, AND THEY ARE SEEKING TO REZONE TO PD TO ACCOMMODATE THE TALLER BUILDING, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTHEAST, TO THE WEST AND THEN TO THE NORTHWEST HAVE ALSO, UM, CAME THROUGH CITY COUNCIL FOR, SOUGHT AN EXCEPTION FOR THE BUILDING HEIGHT LIMITATION AND OBTAINED AN A SIMILAR UH, EXCEPTION. 
          ANOTHER EXAMPLE WAS THE RECENT WAREHOUSE PROPOSAL AT GREEN GREENVILLE AND GLENVILLE AVENUE. 
          SO THIS PROPERTY IS LIT WITHIN THE INNOVATION INDUSTRY PLACE, TYPE OF THE ENVISION RICHARDSON FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND MASTER PLAN. 
          THIS IS CHARACTERIZED BY LOW TO MEDIUM DENSITY OFFICES AS WELL AS MANUFACTURING DISTRIBUTION RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL MANUFACTURING DISTRIBUTION AND OFFICE ARE IDENTIFIED AS PRIMARY USES. 
          AND THE PROPOSED, THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN. 
          SO HERE ARE SOME PHOTOS OF THE SITE. 
          SO THE SITE IS CURRENTLY DEVELOPED. 
          WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT HERE IS THE SOUTH FACADE AS SEEN FROM TELECOM PARKWAY. 
          THIS IS A THREE STORY OFFICE BUILDING THAT IS PROPOSED TO BE DEMOLISHED. 
          AND THEN THIS IS LOOKING AT THE SITE FROM THE EAST, WHICH IS LOOKING THROUGH THE AREA OF WHERE THE NEW WAREHOUSE WOULD BE LOCATED. 
          AND THEN HERE'S AN OVERVIEW OF THE SITE. 
          UM, SO THE SITE WAS FIRST DEVELOPED IN 1990 WITH THAT THREE STORY OFFICE BUILDING, AND THEN IT'S SUBSEQUENTLY DEVELOPED WITH THE, UH, ADDITIONAL BUILDINGS ON SITE. 
          TODAY. 
          THERE IS 855,000 SQUARE FEET OF MANUFACTURING OFFICE AND WAREHOUSE ON THE CAMPUS. 
          SO THEY PROPOSED TO KEEP THE SITE AS ONE INTACT AS ONE SITE AS IT IS TODAY. 
          AND THEY PROPOSED TO CONTINUE, UH, PROVIDING SHARED PARKING BETWEEN THE DIFFERENT TENANTS ON SITE. 
          THE SITE IS 66 ACRES WITH THE, THE PROPOSED BUILDING IS A 343,000 SQUARE FOOT SINGLE STORY WAREHOUSE BUILDING. 
          IN TOTAL WITH THE PROPOSED BUILDING, THE SITE WOULD HAVE 1,102,000 SQUARE FEET OF BUILDING AREA. 
          10% OF LANDSCAPE IS REQUIRED. 
          AND WITH THE PROPOSAL, UH, 22% WILL BE PROVIDED. 
          UH, THESE ARE THE PROPOSED PD STANDARDS, UH, RELATED TO THE REQUEST ONE IS RELATED TO THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING. 
          THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE LIMITS A SINGLE STORY BUILDING TO ONLY 25 FEET TALL. 
          SO THEY HAVE PROPOSED A 50 FOOT TALL SINGLE STORY BUILDING TO ACCOMMODATE AN INTERIOR CLEAR HEIGHT UP TO 36 FEET FOR THEIR WAREHOUSE AND MANUFACTURING ACTIVITIES. 
          THEY HAVE ALSO ASKED FOR AN EXCEPTION TO REDUCE THE PARKING RATIO FOR ASSEMBLY USES AND FOR WAREHOUSE USES. 
          SO THE IM ONE DISTRICT WOULD TYPICALLY REQUIRE BETWEEN, UH, A RANGE OF 2000 TO 2300 PARKING SPACES TODAY. 
          UM, WHAT THEY HAVE PROPOSED WITH THOSE REDUCED RATIOS IS TO REQUIRE 1200 TO 1400 PARKING SPACES. 
          THERE'S A RANGE PROVIDED THERE BECAUSE IT DEPENDS ON THE MAKEUP OF THE TENANTS ON SITE IN THE NEW BUILDING AND THE EXISTING BUILDING. 
          UH, THAT DEPENDS ON WHETHER THEY'RE ASSEMBLY USES, WAREHOUSE USES OR OFFICE USES. 
          THAT MAY VARY. 
          SO WE PROVIDED A RANGE HERE, UH, BUT WHAT THEY WILL PROVIDE ON SITE IS 1,997 PARKING SPACES. 
          SO THAT WILL BE IN EXCESS OF WHAT THEY HAVE PROPOSED TO BE REQUIRED. 
          THE ONLY MODIFICATIONS TO THE SITE ARE ON THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY. 
          THE NORTHERN PORTION WILL NOT BE TOUCHED WITH THIS PROJECT. 
          UM, YOU SEE HERE ON THE CONCEPT PLAN THAT THERE ARE THREE DRIVEWAYS AROUND THE SOUTHERN HALF OF THE LOT. 
          THOSE WILL REMAIN IN THE SAME PLACES AND ALSO TO THE REAR OF THE BUILDING. 
          THERE WILL BE A TRUCK COURT THAT HAS BEEN ORIENTATED TOWARDS THE, UH, INTERIOR OF THE SITE. 
          HERE ARE THE PROPOSED ELEVATIONS. 
          SO THE BUILDING WILL BE CONSTRUCTED OF CON CONCRETE TILT WALL PANELS, ALUMINUM WINDOWS, AND ALUMINUM CANOPY ON AWNINGS. 
          THEY'LL PROVIDE AN AESTHETIC THAT SEEKS TO MIMIC THE APPEARANCE OF A TWO STORY OFFICE BUILDING WITH 
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ENHANCED CORNER FEATURES AND TREATMENTS AT THE CORNERS, INCLUDING STOREFRONT WINDOWS AND FLOOR TO CEILING VERTICAL STOREFRONT WINDOWS ALONG THE SIDES OF THE BUILDING. 
          AND ALSO ON THIS ELEVATION YOU SEE ON THE NORTH ELEVATION FACING THE INTERIOR OF THE SITE, THEY HAVE SHOWN UP TO 74 LOADING DOCK DOORS. 
          HERE ARE THE ELEVATIONS AS SEEN FROM THE SIDE, SO SEEN FROM TELECOM PARKWAY TO THE EAST AND THEN AS SEEN FROM RESEARCH BOULEVARD TO THE WEST. 
          AND THEY'VE ALSO PROVIDED THESE ARCHITECTURAL RENDERINGS. 
          THIS WOULD BE THE FRONT ENTRANCE OF THE BUILDING. 
          THIS IS THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING, AND THEN THAT'S A PERSPECTIVE OF THE, OF THE OTHER SIDE. 
          UM, IN ADDITION, THEY HAVE ALSO IN, UH, PROPOSED ENHANCED LANDSCAPE SCREENING. 
          AS PART OF THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT, THEY HAVE PROPOSED LANDSCAPE SCREENING ON EITHER SIDE OF THE TRUCK DOCK, THAT WOULD BE A ROW OF EVERGREEN CANOPY, TREES AND SHRUBS TO SCREEN THE TRUCK FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY AND TO PROVIDE SOME, UH, NOISE MITIGATION AS WELL. 
          THEY HAVE ALSO PROPOSED THIS TRUCK TRAFFIC CIRCULATION PLAN. 
          SO THIS WILL LIMIT THE NEW TENANTS TO, UH, THAT ARE RECEIVING OR SHIPPING OUT TR SHIPMENTS VIA TRUCK. 
          SEMI TRACTOR TRAILER TYPE OF TRUCK WOULD BE LIMITED TO THE ROUTES SHOWN HERE, WHICH WILL, UH, TAKE A DESIGNATED PATH TO THE SOUTH TO I 90 PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH TOLLWAY TO THE WEST. 
          SO THIS DOES NOT SHOW THE TRUCKS GOING NORTH ON TELECOM TO BRECKENRIDGE OR ANY FURTHER THAN THAT. 
          THIS WOULD LIMIT THE TRUCKS TO THE SOUTH. 
          UM, ALSO ON THE TRUCK CIRCULATION PLAN, I'LL MENTION THAT A TRIP GENERATION MEMO WAS PROVIDED, WHICH COMPARED THE NEW DEVELOPMENT TO THE EXISTING OFFICE ON SITE, AND THAT FOUND THAT THERE'S ESTIMATED TO BE 910 DAILY FEWER TRIPS DAILY, UH, WITH THE PROPOSED PROJECT AS COMPARED TO WHAT IS THERE TODAY. 
          IN SUMMARY, THE CPC VOTED SEVEN OH TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST. 
          TODAY, ITS STAFF HAS RECEIVED ONE COMMENT IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST, AND THAT'S FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER'S ASSOCIATION, SHILOH PARK, THAT THE BUS THAT THE PROPERTY IS WITHIN. 
          WE'VE RECEIVED ONE NEUTRAL COMMENT FROM THE ADJACENT HOA CREEK HOLLOW HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, AND THEN ANOTHER NEUTRAL COMMENT IN ADDITION TO THAT, SIX WRITTEN COMMENTS IN OPPOSITION. 
          FOUR OF THOSE WE JUST RECEIVED TODAY, AND THEY'RE IN FRONT OF YOU IN A STAPLED PACKET. 
          UM, AND THEN WE ALSO HAD FIVE CITY PLAN COMMISSION, PUBLIC COMMENTS AND OPPOSITION. 
          SO CITY COUNCIL MAY APPROVE THE FILE AND ORDINANCE AS PRESENTED WITH ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS OR AMENDED CONDITIONS. 
          AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION, AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE WITH HIS OWN PRESENTATION AS WELL. 
          ALRIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS? THE STAFF? OKAY. 
          IF THE APPLICANT'S HERE, UH, GOOD EVENING. 
          UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS MORNING, MR. MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL. 
          MR. MAGNER, THANK YOU SO MUCH AND THE, AND THE STAFF TOO. 
          UM, THANK YOU FOR, UM, YOUR CONSIDERATION THIS NIGHT. 
          SIR, IF YOU'LL START WITH YOUR, I'M SORRY, YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. 
          I APOLOGIZE. 
          THAT WAS MY NEXT SENTENCE, BUT I'M SAY IT NOW. 
          PERFECT. 
          SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU. 
          UH, MICHAEL SHACK. 
          I'M WITH DAYTON STREET PARTNERS. 
          I'M THE OWNER OF THE, UH, COMPLEX THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS EVENING. 
          MY ADDRESS IS THREE 50 WEST HUBBARD, UH, CHICAGO, ILLINOIS. 
          UH, ALONG WITH ME IS TOM MAXWELL FROM ALLIANCE ARCHITECTS AND MATT GARDNER FROM HALF ENGINEERING AS WELL. 
          SO WE CAN ANSWER HOPEFULLY ANY QUESTIONS. 
          UM, SO THANK YOU FOR, UH, YOUR CONSIDERATION, YOUR CONSIDERATION TONIGHT FOR REALLY JUST TWO VARIANCES, AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR. 
          UM, NOW I JUST GOTTA FIGURE OUT. 
          I GOT IT. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, WHY ARE WE HERE TONIGHT? UM, WE'RE REALLY JUST SEEKING TWO THINGS. 
          ONE, FOR THIS SINGLE STORY STRUCTURE, HIGHER THAN 25 FEET AND TWO, TO REDUCE THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS IN AN EFFORT TO PRESERVE MORE GREEN SPACE ON THE CAMPUS. 
          WE ARE CURRENTLY ZONED INDUSTRIAL, AS MS. PETERS SUGGEST, AS STATED. 
          AND BY RIGHT, WE CAN ADD THIS EXISTING BUILDING. 
          WHY WE'RE HERE IS BECAUSE THE TENANT REQUIREMENTS HAVE CHANGED OVER THE YEARS WHERE THEY'RE REQUIRING TALLER BUILDINGS THAN THEY DID WHEN THE ORDINANCE WENT INTO EFFECT. 
          UM, AND SO THAT'S THE MAIN REASON WE'RE HERE. 
          WE HAVE SOCIALIZED THIS PLANS WITH THE BUSINESS PARK AND RESIDENTS OF THE CREEK OF CREEK HOLLOW. 
          THERE IS NO OBJECTION FROM THE RESIDENTIAL HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION BOARD, AND THE BUSINESS OF PARK ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR OF THE DEVELOPMENT. 
          UM, WE ARE HERE TO PRESENT TONIGHT, UH, AFTER UNANIMOUS APPROVAL BY THE CPC. 
          UM, ALL RIGHT, 
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SO WE DEVELOP ALL AROUND THE COUNTRY AND MANY JURISDICTIONS OVER THE YEARS, AND WE PRIDE OURSELVES ON, ON WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY AND MUNICIPAL LEADERSHIP TO DEVELOP PROPERTIES THAT ARE THOUGHTFUL, RESPECTFUL OF THE ADJACENT LAND USES IN ENHANCE THE VALUE OF THE LAND. 
          WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TONIGHT IS TO DEVELOP AN APPROXIMATELY 344,000 SQUARE FOOT REAR LOAD LIGHT INDUSTRIAL BUILDING WITH 36 FOOT CLEAR HEIGHT IN CONCERT WITH THE TYPE OF TENANTS IN THE CITY OF RICHARDSON. 
          WE SEE THIS BUILDING PRIMARILY USED FOR LIGHT ASSEMBLY AND LIGHT MANUFACTURING, SIMILAR TO HOW THE REST OF THE CAMPUS IS CURRENTLY BEING USED BY THE MAJOR TENANT CELESTICA. 
          AS YOU'LL SEE IN THE FOLLOWING SLIDES, WE HAVE THOUGHTFULLY DESIGNED THE BUILDING TO COMPLIMENT THE EXISTING FACILITIES AND NEIGHBORING BUILDINGS WITH MATCHING GLASS AND SIGNIFICANTLY MORE GLASS THAN IS IN SIMILAR BUILDINGS. 
          AND A LAYOUT THAT HIDES AND SCREENS THE TRUCK COURT FROM THE STREET, THEREBY REDUCING TRUCK NOISE AND PROVIDING THE ATTRACTIVE LOOK FOR THE S FOR THE STREET FROM THE STREET. 
          UM, WE STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WILL ALLOW US TO RETAIN AND TRACK HIGH PAYING QUALITY JOBS FOR THE CITY OF RICHARDSON. 
          UM, SO, UM, WE'LL MOVE RIGHT ALONG HERE. 
          AS MS. PETER SHOWED IN A PRESENTATION. 
          UM, THIS IS THE PROPO WHAT THE SITE PLAN THAT WE'RE PROPOSING. 
          THIS BUILDING BUILDING IS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM SIMILAR BUILDINGS AND IS NOT ADJACENT TO ANY RESIDENTIAL STREETS. 
          UH, THE BLUE BUILDINGS WOULD REMAIN. 
          THESE BUILDINGS ARE FULLY LEASED EXCEPT FOR THE BUILDING IN THE NORTHEAST CORNER, ALTHOUGH WE HAVE A LEASE OUT ON THAT. 
          SO THIS, BY THE END OF AUGUST, WE'LL BE A HUNDRED PERCENT LEASED ON THIS CAMPUS. 
          A FEW THINGS TO HIGHLIGHT. 
          THE REAR LOAD BUILDING, UH, IT'S A REAR LOAD BUILDING, SO THE LOADING IS NOT VISIBLE FROM THE STREET. 
          AS YOU'LL SEE IN THE NEXT FEW LINES. 
          WE SLIDES, WE'LL BE ADDING TREES, LANDSCAPING OF FURTHER SCREEN, UH, LOADING FROM THE STREET IN ADDITION TO THE TRUCKS BEING SCREENED. 
          THE ORIENTATION REDUCES TRUCK NOISE BY BEING BLOCKED BY THE PROPOSED BUILDING TO THE SOUTH AND THE EXISTING BUILDINGS TO THE NORTH. 
          FURTHER, WE HAVE PROVIDED LONG ENTRY POINTS SO THAT THE TRUCKS CAN STACK ON SITE AND NOT ON THE STREET. 
          UM, I THINK SOME PEOPLE GET, UH, SCARED A LITTLE BIT WHEN THEY SEE 74 TRUCK DOCKS, SO I KIND OF WANT TO ADDRESS THAT. 
          IT'S, WE DO NOT ENVISION THAT THE 74 TRUCK DOCKS WILL BE USED. 
          WHAT IT IS, IS IT'S MORE FOR, UM, PLANNING AND LAYING OUT TENANTS. 
          SO OUR BUILDING CAN IS DESIGNED TO BE ANYWHERE FROM ONE TO FOUR TENANTS BASED UPON WHERE WE HAVE THE, THE STOREFRONTS. 
          AND EVEN TALKING TO CELESTICA, WHO IS INTERESTED, BUT THERE'S NO GUARANTEE. 
          BUT HOPEFULLY THEY'LL COME, THEY'LL TAKE THE BUILDING. 
          THEY'VE SAID THAT THEY WOULD NEED INTERIOR DEMISING WALLS, BUT THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE THOSE INTERIOR DEMISING WALLS WOULD BE YET. 
          SO, BUT, UH, HAVING THAT MANY TRUCK DOCKS ALLOWS FOR THE FLEXIBILITY TO LAY OUT AND BE ABLE TO MEET TENANTS NEEDS. 
          UM, THERE'S THE EXISTING, SOME OF THE EXISTING CAMPUS. 
          WHY WANTED TO SHOW THIS SLIDE IS THAT HOW MUCH GLASS IS HERE. 
          UM, IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE, AND NOW WITH FEDERAL POLICIES, IT'S EVEN GOTTEN MORE EXPENSIVE. 
          BUT NOTICE LIKE THE, I THINK THERE WE GO. 
          THE VERTICAL LINES HERE, THE VERTICAL HERE, THE VERTICAL HERE. 
          AND THE REASON I BRING THAT UP IS, IS THAT WHAT WE'RE GONNA PROPOSE, THIS IS AN UPDATED RENDERING FROM WHAT MS. PETER SAID EARLIER WITH THE ORNAMENTAL TREES, IS WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO MATCH THE GLASS THAT'S EXISTING SO IT LOOKS COHESIVE, IT LOOKS PART OF LIKE THE DEVELOPMENT, UM, THAT'S THERE. 
          AND IN ADDITION, HERE'S ALL THESE VERTICAL ELEMENTS. 
          AGAIN, ALL THIS CLASS IS VERY EXPENSIVE, BUT WE BELIEVE WE WANNA BUILD A QUALITY PROJECT WITHIN RICHARDSON THAT TIES EVERYTHING TOGETHER. 
          THAT'S ALREADY THERE. 
          UH, THE SQUARE LITTLE WINDOWS ARE CLEAR STORY WINDOWS, AND THAT JUST HELPS MITIGATE, UM, THE NEED FOR ARTIFICIAL LIGHT DURING THE DAY. 
          SO WE'RE TRYING TO ALSO BE AS ENERGY CONSCIOUS AS WE CAN BE, UH, FOR THIS. 
          UM, LET ME GO ON AND SEE HERE. 
          UM, SO THIS IS THE MIDDLE PORTION THAT ONE MS. PETERS DID HAVE. 
          UH, WE CAN SPLIT THIS INTO TWO TO CALL FOR FOUR TENANTS. 
          SO WHAT I WANTED TO POINT OUT HERE IS THE EXTRA THAT WE'RE DOING HERE. 
          SO WE'VE STOOD THIS ENTRANCE OUT FROM THE REST OF THE BUILDING AND WE'VE ADDED THESE RECESSES. 
          AND YOU'LL SEE ON THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU CAN SEE THEM AGAIN HERE AND THERE AND, YOU KNOW, IN DIFFERENT SPOTS, EXPENSIVE. 
          BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT PROVIDES A MUCH HIGHER 
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END LOOK AND NOT JUST ONE MONOLITHIC TYPE, UH, FACADE AT THE END OF THE DAY. 
          UM, THIS IS A VERSION OF THE, UH, TRUCK AREA WITH THE ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING. 
          AND IS THAT MATURES? THAT WILL BECOME ONE BIG WALL, SO YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO SEE IT AT ALL. 
          IN ADDITION TO THAT, BESIDES HIDING THE TRUCK HARDER, IT WILL ALSO HELP WITH FURTHER MOISTURE RE UH, REDUCTION. 
          UM, THIS SLIDE YOU SAW AS WELL. 
          UM, BUT, UM, WE'VE IDENTIFIED THIS IS A ROUTE FOR THE TRUCKS TO TAKE TO GET IN AND OUT OF THE PROPERTY WHILE THE GREEN AND RED SAY ONE IS IN, ONE IS OUT IN REALITY, THEY CAN COME IN OR OUT OF EACH ENTRANCE. 
          IT'S NOT SPECIFIC. 
          WE ARE GONNA ADD WAY, WAY FINDING SIGNAGE AS WELL SO THAT TRUCKS KNOW WHERE TO COME IN AND WHERE, WHERE TO GO OUT. 
          UM, THE FIRST TIME WE MET WITH STAFF, THEY HAD SAID, HEY, YOU KNOW, TRY TO ADDRESS THE, THE, THE TRUCK, UH, ROUTES OR TRUCKING AND SO IT DOESN'T GO THROUGH RESIDENTIAL AREAS. 
          SO WE STUDIED THIS, CAME UP WITH THIS, AND VOLUNTEERED TO PUT THIS INTO OUR LEASES. 
          SO ALL OF OUR LEASES FOR THIS BUILDING WILL HAVE A REQUIREMENT THAT THEY ONLY COME THROUGH THIS AREA HERE. 
          UM, I DO, I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S SOME BUILDINGS NEAR US AS WELL THAT HAVE THE SAME, UH, SIMILAR TRUCK ROUTES, AND THERE'S BEEN ABSOLUTELY NO ISSUES. 
          AND IF YOU NOTICE AS WELL, WE'RE NOT NEAR ANY RESIDENTIAL, SO WE'RE IN AN INDUSTRIAL PARK AND WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT THE TRUCKS DON'T COME THROUGH THE RESIDENTIAL AREA. 
          UM, SO LET ME SEE IF, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I HAVE ALL MY POINTS. 
          SORRY, I'M, UM, MAKE SURE THAT I GET 'EM ALL. 
          UM, ANOTHER QUESTION THAT CAME UP AS WE WERE GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS WAS HOURS OF OPERATION. 
          AND SO I KIND OF THOUGHT I WOULD ADDRESS THAT A LITTLE BIT UPFRONT AND SO FORTH. 
          WE DON'T KNOW WHO EXACTLY WILL BE THE TENANT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE HOPE IT'S THE EXISTING TENANT WHO EXPANDS, BUT WE ALSO DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR OPERATION IS GONNA BE OVER 10, 15, 20 YEARS AS WELL. 
          UM, SO IT, IT'S CHALLENGING FOR US AT THIS POINT IN TIME TO PUT A LIMIT OF HOURS OF OPERATION ONTO THE BUILDING WHEN WE DON'T KNOW WHO THE TENANT IS AND WHAT THEIR OPERATION IS GOING TO BE. 
          UM, SO THAT MAKES IT A, UH, CHALLENGING FOR US TO DO. 
          I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT, I GUESS IF WE WERE UP AGAINST A RESIDENTIAL AREA, BUT WE'RE NOT AGAINST A RESIDENTIAL AREA AND THE TRUCKS ARE NOT COMING THROUGH A RESIDENTIAL AREA OR COMING THROUGH A COMMERCIAL AREA. 
          SO, UM, THAT'S ANOTHER THING. 
          IN ADDITION TO THAT, UM, WE HAVE AMAZON RIGHT HERE,  RIGHT HERE. 
          UM, NATURE RICH IS GONE RIGHT HERE, AND NONE OF THEM HAVE ANY SORT OF OPERATIONAL RESTRICTIONS. 
          SO IT DOESN'T SEEM, IT DOESN'T SEEM EQUITABLE TO PUT IT ON US WHEN ALL THE OTHER ONES RIGHT NEXT TO US DO NOT HAVE THAT. 
          UM, WE THOUGHT THIS SLIDE WAS IMPORTANT. 
          UM, SINCE THE 25 FOOT HEIGHT RESTRICTION WAS ADOPTED BY THE CITY OF RICHARDSON, MOST OF THE PROPERTIES AROUND US HAVE BEEN COMPLETED, ARE IN EXCESS OF THAT 25 FOOT LIMITATION. 
          UM, JUST SO YOU KNOW, TOO, THIS BUILDING IS HIGHER THAN 25 FEET, BUT THAT WAS BEFORE THE ORDINANCE WENT INTO EFFECT. 
          SO WE ALREADY HAVE ONE ON OUR SITE, BUT THERE'S 10 BUILDINGS THAT WERE BUILT AND SURROUNDING US THAT ARE ALL GREATER THAN 25 FEET FOR A SINGLE STORY. 
          UM, AND NATURE RICH IS THE ONE THAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW. 
          IT JUST GOT APPROVED AND IS, IS, UH, UNDER CONSTRUCTION. 
          UM, OKAY, SO MOVING ALONG. 
          ALL RIGHT, THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THERE WAS A LENGTHY DISCUSSION ON PARKING MUCH LONGER THAN I WOULD'VE PREFERRED, BUT THERE WAS A LONG DISCUSSION ON PARKING. 
          UM, SO I THOUGHT A FEW WORDS, YOU KNOW, WOULD BE BEST. 
          UM, SO FOR BACKGROUND, AS MS. PETERS HAD INDICATED, IT'S ONE PARCEL CURRENTLY, UM, UH, AND WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP, WE WOULD LIKE TO KEEP IT THAT WAY BASED UPON OUR PROPOSED PARKING APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WE WOULD BE REQUIRED TO HAVE 1400 1,444 SPACES. 
          WE'RE PROPOSING 1997 UNDER THIS DRAWING HERE THAT YOU SEE. 
          UM, THE IDEA IS, AND WHICH GOES BACK TO, HEY, WE'D LIKE TO HAVE MORE LANDSCAPING IF AT 
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ALL POSSIBLE, IS WE HAVE SOME AREAS THAT WE DESIGNATED AS FUTURE PARKING. 
          UM, AND THAT'S MORE IN CASE OF WHAT THE TENANT USE IS AT THE END OF THE DAY. 
          IF IT ENDS UP BECOMING MORE, UH, INTENSIVE FROM A PARKING REQUIREMENT TO HAVE THAT, TO BE ABLE TO ADD THAT ADDITIONAL PARKING. 
          WE UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          UM, THERE'S SOME CONCERN, ESPECIALLY ON THE EAST SIDE WHERE THE BULK OF I, THE MATURE TREE, THE BULK OF THE MATURE TREES ARE OVER IN THIS AREA. 
          THIS AREA IS JUST GRASPED FOR THE MOST PART. 
          AND SAME THING DOWN HERE, BUT THIS IS WHERE THE BULK OF, I'D SAY THE MATURE TREES ARE. 
          UM, AND SO WE HEARD YOU, UM, AND WE HEARD THAT, HEY, WE'D REALLY LIKE TO TRY TO KEEP THOSE IF AT ALL POSSIBLE. 
          SO WHAT WE'RE OFFERING TONIGHT, WHICH WASN'T PART OF THE CPC, BUT HOPEFULLY SO WE CAN GET OUTTA HERE BEFORE MIDNIGHT, IS THAT WE WOULD KEEP THE EAST SIDE GREEN SPACE. 
          UM, AND OTHER THAN WHAT THE PARKING IS SHOWN, I DO HAVE SOME PARKING THERE MAINLY 'CAUSE THAT'S AN OFFICE ENTRANCE THAT COULD BE THERE. 
          BUT THE ADDITIONAL WHERE I SAID FUTURE, WE WOULD, WE WOULD KEEP IT AS GREEN SPACE, KEEP THOSE TREES. 
          UM, I HAVE ANOTHER SLIDE, BUT BASICALLY, SO JUST SO YOU KNOW, ON THIS SLIDE HERE, WE GOT 22% LANDSCAPE COVERAGE CODE ONLY REQUIRES 17. 
          IF WE HAD BUILT, I MEAN, IT'S 10. 
          IF WE HAD BUILT BOTH SIDES, WHICH I'M TAKING AWAY ONE, WE WOULD STILL BE AT 17. 
          SO WE'RE STILL AT 70% HIGHER THAN WHAT'S REQUIRED BY CODE. 
          I HAVEN'T ASKED MY LANDSCAPE, MY CIVIL ENGINEER, IF WE KEEP THAT GREEN, WHAT THAT IS. 
          BUT SOMEWHERE BETWEEN THE 17 AND THE 22, UM, WHICH IS MUCH HIGHER THAN, UM, WHAT IS REQUIRED. 
          UM, THE LAST THING TO MENTION IS THERE WAS ALSO, LET'S SEE HERE. 
          UM, IS THIS THE RIGHT ONE? YEAH, I THINK SO. 
          SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THIS NICE PARKWAY HERE. 
          PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO SEE TREES. 
          I THINK THE REQUIREMENT IS ONE TREE FOR EVERY 50 FEET. 
          AND, UH, WE'D BE WILLING TO DO ONE TREE PER EVERY 30 FEET. 
          I THINK IF YOU DO SMALLER THAN THAT OR THEN THE TREES END UP GROWING INTO EACH OTHER OVER TIME. 
          UM, SO IN SUMMARY, WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THE CITY OF RICHARDSON. 
          I'M BRINGING ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND A TAX BASE TO THE CITY WITH A HIGH QUALITY, WELL THOUGHT OUT BUILDING AND HAS BEEN PAINSTAKINGLY DESIGNED TO KEEP WITH THE CHARACTER OF THE INDUSTRIAL PARK, MINIMIZE THE IMPACTS TO THE NEIGHBORS AND GO ABOVE AND BEYOND IN THE GLASS USED TRUCK ROUTE LIMITATIONS AND A DEVELOPMENT THAT FAR EXCEEDS LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS TO RETAIN AND BRING HIGH QUALITY, HIGH PAYING JOBS TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND I LOOK FORWARD TO ANSWERING YOUR QUESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION AND YOUR PATIENCE. 
          UH, WAITING ALL THE WAY TILL NOW. 
          UH, I SEE A QUESTION ALREADY BY MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHEN, GO AHEAD. 
          WELL, FIRST OFF, I'VE BEEN WAITING MONTHS FOR THIS, 'CAUSE I DON'T GET TO SAY THIS VERY OFTEN BECAUSE COUNCILMAN BARRIOS ALWAYS SAYS THIS, THIS IS MY NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          I LIVE LESS THAN LESS THAN A HALF A MILE FROM HERE. 
          I DRIVE UP AND DOWN BRECKENRIDGE EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK AND THE WEEKENDS AS WELL. 
          UM, SO, UM, FIRST OFF, I WANNA SAY THAT I DON'T, I DON'T SEE WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING AS BEING AN ISSUE IN THIS SPACE. 
          I'M, I'M OVER THERE, LIKE I SAID, MORNING, NIGHT, WEEKENDS ALL THE TIME. 
          SO I DON'T SEE AN ISSUE. 
          UM, THE, THE ADDITION, OR I'M SORRY, THE, THE CHANGE, IF YOU WILL, TO THE, UM, THE, THE, THE, UH, LEAVING IT AS LANDSCAPE AREA. 
          I THINK THAT'S GREAT. 
          I FULLY SUPPORT THAT. 
          I THINK THAT'S FANTASTIC. 
          UM, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR DON. 
          UM, THIS IDEA OF PUTTING IN INTERNAL WAYFINDING SIGNS, DIRECTING TRUCK TRAFFIC MM-HMM . 
          UM, MY CONCERN IS THAT WE HAVE, BECAUSE I LIVE OVER THERE, WE HAVE A LOT OF TRUCKS THAT COME THROUGH THERE TO DELIVER THINGS, MOVING VANS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. 
          WILL THAT CREATE AN UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE IF WE WERE TO REQUIRE THAT? BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, AS THE GENTLEMAN SAID, WE HAVE A LOT OF OTHER BUSINESSES OVER THERE AND IT, THERE HAVE NOT, WE DON'T SEE TRUCKS 'CAUSE IT, THEY WANT TO GET OUT TO GEORGE BUSH, THEY WANT TO GET OUT TO 75, THEY'RE NOT GONNA TURN BACK INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, BECAUSE THERE'S JUST NO, NO REASON TO DO THAT. 
          BUT I HAVE THE CONCERN IF WE HAVE OTHER TRUCKS COMING IN FOR DELIVERY, MOVING, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, 'CAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF THOSE, UM, WILL THAT CREATE AN UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE AND CREATE A A, A CONFUSION? YES, SIR. 
          UM, SO, SO I'M, I'M JUST, I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THAT. 
          YES, SIR. 
          SO I'M, 
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UH, I'M DEFER TO THE APPLICANT, BUT THE WAY FINDING SIGNS WOULD ONLY BE ON HIS PROPERTY. 
          IT WOULD BE SIMILAR TO WHAT WE REQUIRED TO ADVOCATE TO, UH, INSTALL SO THAT AS TRUCKS ARE LEAVING, UH, IT WOULD JUST BE THERE TO SAY, YOU GOTTA TURN RIGHT. 
          RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M SORRY, I MISUNDERSTOOD THAT. 
          SO, OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          THEN, THEN I THINK, AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE BEING A AMENABLE, UH, AMENABLE TO THAT, TO PUT THAT, JUST THAT INTERNAL SIGNAGE THAT SAYS THEY HAVE TO TURN RIGHT OR LEFT, WHICHEVER WAY IT IS, SO THAT THE, FROM AN AWAY FINDING PERSPECTIVE, THAT'S CORRECT. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO I THINK THE, THE TREE, UM, WITH YOU'RE SAYING WHAT EVERY, EVERY 30 FEET I THINK IS FANTASTIC. 
          UM, I WOULD NOT SUPPORT THE IDEA OF PUTTING A LIMITATION. 
          AND THE REASON I WOULD SAY THAT IS, IS YOU END UP WITH A VERY STRONG UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE. 
          AND NOT ONLY BEING A HOMEOWNER, BUT ALSO BEING DOWN DOWN THE STREET. 
          WHAT WILL END UP HAPPENING IS IF WE PUT THAT RESTRICTION ON THERE THAT SAYS THEY CAN ONLY DELIVER BETWEEN 7:00 AM AND 6:00 PM 6:00 PM IF A TRUCK SHOWS UP AT SIX O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, THEY'RE GONNA TRY AND FIND A SPOT NEAR THERE, PULL INTO SOMEBODY'S PARKING LOT, WHICH I'M AFRAID MIGHT BE OUR PARKING LOT OR OTHER BUSINESS' PARKING LOTS. 
          VERSUS WHAT YOU'RE SHOWING US IS, IS THEY CAN PULL IN THE BACK AND STOP ON THE, I'M GONNA CALL IT ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE, THE BUILDING. 
          I'M NOT SURE THE BEST WAY TO SAY THAT. 
          UM, SO I DON'T SEE, I DON'T SEE A REASON TO ADD THAT, THAT THIRD. 
          SO, UM, AGAIN, BEING THE PERSON LIVES, AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, LESS THAN A HALF MILE FROM HERE, DRIVE IT ALL THE TIME. 
          I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS. 
          UM, AND VERY MUCH, AND WOULD, WOULD WANT TO SUPPORT IT WITH THE, THE, THE THREE, UM, THE TOP THREE, UM, FROM A POTENTIAL MOTION BUT NOT, WOULD NOT WANNA PUT THE, THE TIME CONSTRAINTS ON THERE, BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S A VERY STRONG CHANCE OF UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES THAT, THAT WOULD CAUSE MORE PROBLEMS REGARDLESS OF THE, OF WHAT MIGHT OCCUR FROM A TENANT PERSPECTIVE. 
          I'M A WHOLE LOT MORE WORRIED ABOUT JUST THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES OF A TRUCK DRIVER SHOWING UP AND SITTING AROUND SOMEWHERE WAITING FOR THAT 7:00 AM IN THE MORNING. 
          SO, UM, WITH THAT, I JUST WANTED TO, MY MAIN QUESTION WAS JUST ASK ABOUT THE, THE, THE WAY, THE WAY, WAY FINDING SIGN IS, SORRY, IT'S TOO LATE. 
          PERFECT. 
          BUT I WOULD SUPPORT ALL THE TOP, TOP PART OF THE MOTION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCILMAN CORCORAN? UH, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. 
          I'M SORRY, I HAD A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF THAT JUST TRYING TO ESCAPE MY MIND. 
          GO AHEAD AND ASK THEM REAL QUICK. 
          GO. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THERE'S A LITTLE SORT OF NORTH OF THIS CAMPUS, THERE'S A LITTLE SLIVER OF LAND BY BOEING. 
          UM, IT'S JUST KIND OF OPEN SPACE. 
          DO YOU GUYS KNOW WHO OWNS THAT OR IF THERE'S, THERE'S NO FUTURE PLANS FOR THAT OR ANYTHING. 
          IT CAME TO THE EAST OR WEST. 
          UH, SO YOU JUST SORT OF, THERE'S THE INTERSECTION. 
          SO RIGHT NORTH OF CELESTICA, HE, HE'S TALKING ABOUT SHILOH AT BRECKENRIDGE, IF THAT HELPS YOU. 
          YEAH. 
          SHILOH AND BRECKENRIDGE AND THEN EAST. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'S A SPACE THAT WOULD BE DUE WEST OF BOEING IS WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, JOE, CORRECT. 
          UH, HONESTLY, THE SPACE TO THE WEST AND THE EAST, NOW THAT I LOOK AT THE MAP. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'S THAT, IT'S BEEN AN EMPTY LOT FOR QUITE A NUMBER OF YEARS, FOR ALL 15 YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN HERE, ACTUALLY. 
          OOPS. 
          THERE, UH, UH, COUNCILMAN CORCORAN, IF YOU WANNA ASK YOUR NEXT QUESTION. 
          YEAH. 
          PIZZA WEDGE IN TIME OUT. 
          YEAH. 
          THE THAT AND THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE TOO. 
          WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE, UH, CHARLES IS LOOKING IT UP IF YOU WANT TO GO TO YOUR NEXT QUESTION. 
          YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. 
          WE'LL, WE'LL COME BACK TO THAT. 
          AND THEN MY NEXT QUESTION IS, UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE, THE RESIDENTS THAT HAD WRITTEN AND, YOU KNOW, SAID THERE WAS SOME SORT OF, UM, COMMITMENT OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT ABOUT TRUCKS NOT GOING UP AND DOWN TELECOM PARKWAY YES. 
          TO DEALERS. 
          IS THAT SO THAT, THAT THAT'S TRUE. 
          THAT'S COMING OUTTA THE ADVOCARE CASE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WE, UM, NEED TO REPLACE, UM, AND YOU'LL SEE, UM, IN THE SECOND BULLET THERE, WE NEED TO REPLACE, UM, SOME NO TRUCK SIGNS ALONG PORTIONS OF BOTH BRECKENRIDGE AND TELECOM, UM, THAT WERE, UM, I THINK ORIGINALLY INSTALLED WHEN ADVOCARE GOT THEIR PERMIT, BUT FOR SOME REASON THEY'RE NOT THERE TODAY. 
          AND SO THAT'S TRUE. 
          AND WE NEED, WE, WE WILL, WE WILL REINSTALL THOSE SIGNS IF, UH, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THIS CASE IS APPROVED OR NOT. 
          SO DAWN, THIS WAS A, A COMMITMENT, THIS WAS LIKE SOME, A COMMITMENT BY ADV CARE NOT TO PUT 18 WHEELERS UP AND DOWN. 
          THEY HAVE THE, THEY'VE AGREED TO ESSENTIALLY THE SAME EXITING STRATEGY. 
          OH, I SEE. 
          OKAY. 
          IN THEIR ZONING CASE. 
          OH, WONDERFUL. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEP. 
          SO, UH, SO JUST TO CLARIFY, WE'LL PUT THOSE SIGNS UP SUBSEQUENT TO THIS CASE. 
          SO THAT VACANT PARCEL THAT'S TO THE EAST OF BOEING, IT IS ACTUALLY OWNED BY WOOD CREEK CHURCH, WHICH IS OFF OF RUNNER. 
          OKAY. 
          WHAT ABOUT TO THE EAST? EAST? WHAT ABOUT TO THE WEST? OH, TO THE WEST. 
          THE LARGER TRACK, I THINK, I MEAN, THE REASON I ASK IS I JUST, YOU KNOW, AS I LOOK AT THIS, IT, IT MAY BE RELEVANT TO KNOW IF ANYTHING IS PLANNED TO GO IN RIGHT BESIDE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD THERE, IF THAT'S EVEN A POSSIBILITY. 
          COULD YOU REPEAT THAT PLEASE? 
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RIGHT BESIDE THE NEIGHBORHOOD, HE'S CURIOUS ABOUT THAT SLIVER THAT'S OVER THERE BY THE TREE, TREE LINE. 
          THAT WOULD BE A DIFFICULT DEVELOPMENT. 
          OKAY. 
          THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST IS LIKELY OWNED BY SOME AFFILIATE, IF NOT COLLINS AEROSPACE. 
          IT'S OUTTA THE SAME. 
          YEAH, IT'S OUTTA IOP, UH, CEDAR RAPID HIGHWAY, SO IT'S OKAY. 
          IT'S PROBABLY THE SAME. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          BARRIOS. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UH, I DO WANNA COMMEND YOU ON THE PROPOSAL, THE TRUCK ROUTE. 
          I WILL SAY, UM, IN TWO AND A HALF YEARS I'VE BEEN ON THE COUNCIL, I DON'T KNOW IF I'VE EVER HEARD, UH, SOMEBODY COME BEFORE US AND SAY THAT THEY'VE ADDED IT INTO, UH, THEIR LEASES AND THEIR, THEIR LEGAL AGREEMENTS AS PART OF THE DEAL. 
          SO, UH, KUDOS TO YOU FOR DOING THAT. 
          AND I, I, TO ME, THAT'S, THAT, UH, SPEAKS VOLUMES. 
          UM, WITH THAT SAID, I'M GONNA SAY SOMETHING I DON'T SAY VERY OFTEN, BUT I DO AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN HUTCHIN RIDER ON PRETTY MUCH WHAT ALL WHAT HE SAID. 
          SO SOMEBODY WRITE THAT DOWN FOR THE BOOKS COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE, IT'S RECORDED. 
          UH, THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          I, UM, I THINK WHEN WE HEARD FROM RESIDENTS, THE TWO THINGS THAT I HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR WAS NOISE AND TRAFFIC. 
          UM, I THINK THAT THE TRAFFIC HAS BEEN ADDRESSED HERE WITH, WITH THE WAY FINDING. 
          UM, I AM STILL CONCERNED WITH THE NOISE, ALTHOUGH THESE TRUCK BAYS MAY NOT CREATE SOME OF THE NOISE THAT FOLKS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT. 
          THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT NOISE FROM THE TRUCK BAYS THAT ARE ON THE NORTH OF THIS PROPERTY. 
          UM, SO I WANNA PUSH YOU A LITTLE BIT ON THE LANDSCAPING AND, AND ASK IF THERE'S ANYTHING MORE YOU CAN DO ON THE NORTH SIDE, PARTICULARLY FOR THOSE HOMES RIGHT THERE ON BRECKENRIDGE TO TRY AND, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, BUFFER THE NOISE A LITTLE BIT. 
          ARE WE, CAN WE PUT MORE TREES? CAN WE PUT SOME SHRUBBERY? SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          UM, BECAUSE THAT IS CAUSING, UM, A GREAT BILL, UH, THE CONSTERNATION FOR THE FOLKS THAT LIVE CLOSEST TO THE NORTHERN PART OF THIS PROPERTY. 
          SO I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'VE AGREED TO DO SO FAR, AND WOULD LIKE TO JUST PUSH YOU A LITTLE BIT FURTHER TO REALLY ADDRESS THE ISSUE THAT A LOT OF THESE NEIGHBORS ARE EXPERIENCING. 
          IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO DO? UH, I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT IT. 
          YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE NORTH OF THE EXISTING BUILDINGS THAT WERE NOT ON BRECKENRIDGE ALONG BRECKENRIDGE, BRE. 
          YEAH. 
          I, I WOULD, WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT IT. 
          AND THE, THE REASON I, I SAY THAT ONE OF THE REASONS IS, I KNOW FROM JUST PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, IF YOU PUT SOMETHING UP AND THAT BLOCKS THE VISIBILITY, THEN YOU'VE CREATED A DIFFERENT ISSUE. 
          AND SO I DON'T WANT TO NECESSARILY SAY, YEAH, WE'LL PUT 'EM UP AND THEN NOW WE HAVE CAR ACCIDENTS BECAUSE PEOPLE CAN'T SEE THAT. 
          FAIR ENOUGH. 
          I MEAN, WE CAN THAT, YEAH, WE CAN JUST CERTAINLY ADDRESS THAT. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, SO LONG AS WE'RE NOT IMPACTING TRAFFIC VISIBILITY OR SOMETHING. 
          BUT IF, IF THAT'S YOUR ONLY CONCERN, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO, TO PUT UP MORE? I MEAN, I, I DROVE IT TODAY. 
          THERE'S GREAT TREES THERE, BUT THEY'RE SORT OF REALLY SPACED OUT. 
          SO I, I'M EVEN CURIOUS IF YOU WOULD AGREE TO DO THIS SORT OF 30 FEET ON STREET FRONTAGE THAT YOU'RE DOING ON THE FRONT SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, ON THE BACK SIDE OF THE PROPERTY TO TRY AND ADDRESS AGAIN, SOME OF THAT NOISE BUFFERING FOR THE PEOPLE ALONG THERE, UH, CONTINGENT ON THE CITY SAYING THAT VISIBILITY'S NOT IMPACTED AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. 
          SO YEAH, WE COULD LOOK, I, I, I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT IT, SO I CAN'T JUST SAY ABSOLUTELY, BUT I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO REVIEW IT AND, AND SEE, FOR, FOR ME, THAT'S MY, MY HANGUP. 
          I AGREE THAT I THINK MOST OF WHAT YOU'VE DONE TO DESIGN THIS PROPERTY, THIS IS AN INDUSTRIAL SITE. 
          IT'S INTERIOR. 
          THE BUILDINGS I THINK WILL BLOCK MOST OF THE NOISE FROM THE NEW BUILDING. 
          BUT WE HAVE YOU HERE AND THERE IS AN ISSUE WITH THE PROPERTY NOW WITH NOISE. 
          AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO TRY AND FIX THAT TO THE BEST WE CAN FOR THE RESIDENTS. 
          UM, SO THAT, THAT WOULD BE, UM, YOU KNOW, IN ADDITION TO, TO WHAT YOU'VE AGREED, THAT'S THE ONLY THING I WOULD PUSH YOU ON AND THAT I WOULD WANNA SEE, UM, UH, THAT WE GET AN AGREEMENT ON BEFORE, UM, WE, WE VOTE, UH, TO TRY AND ADDRESS THAT CONCERN FOR THOSE RESIDENTS THAT MOST CLOSELY BORDER AS PROPERTY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, I KNOW PART OF THE POTENTIAL PLAN THAT THEY'VE TALKED ABOUT, WHICH DOES NOT ADDRESS THE PARTICULAR SIDE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. 
          YES. 
          UH, INCLUDED SIX ORNAMENTAL TREES FOR EVERY A HUNDRED FEET. 
          SO ALMOST LIKE KIND OF INTERSPERSED WITH THE BIGGER TREES. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I WONDER IF SOMETHING LIKE THAT CAN KIND OF BE A PART OF THE SHIELDING THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP WITH THE, WITH THE NOISE WITHOUT GETTING, UM, YOU KNOW, BECOMING ANY KIND OF PROBLEM. 
          BUT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD A SUGGESTION ON THAT. 
          I DID NOT DRIVE IT TODAY, SO I CAN'T SAY THAT I NOTICED THE TREES MYSELF. 
          YEAH. 
          I DROVE AT AND TOOK PICTURES. 
          NOT THAT WE CAN PUT THEM AS PART OF THIS PRESENTATION, BUT THEY ARE QUITE SPACED OUT. 
          THEY ARE NICE BIG TREES. 
          I WILL SAY THAT IT'S A, IT IS NICELY LANDSCAPED, YOU KNOW, BUT THOSE TRUCKS ARE DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM HOUSES. 
          THERE'S SPACE BETWEEN THE TREES TO POSSIBLY PLANT MORE TREES. 
          IS CORRECT. 
          THAT, THAT'S ALL I'M, I'M SEEKING HERE. 
          OTHERWISE, I'M, I I THINK THAT THE OTHER CONCERNS RELATED TO NOISE ARE MITIGATED BY THE LANDSCAPING THAT'S BEING PUT IN ON THE NORTH, UH, SOUTHERN PART OF THE PROPERTY, THE EASTERN PART OF THE PROPERTY. 
          THE BUILDINGS WILL BLOCK A LOT OF THAT. 
          UM, THE EXISTING BUILDINGS, THE TRAFFIC PATTERN I THINK HAS BEEN ADDRESSED. 
          AND SO I, YOU KNOW, THE ONLY OTHER THING FOR ME IS NOISE. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND WHAT, WHAT'S BEEN PROPOSED ISN'T GOING TO FIX THE CURRENT ISSUE. 
          YEP. 
          MAKES SENSE. 
          UM, SO, UH, YOU KNOW, BE, AS WE 
          [04:15:01]
ASK YOU A FEW MORE QUESTIONS, THAT MAY BE THE THING THAT YOU WANT TO THINK ABOUT IS WHAT KIND OF LANGUAGE YOU MIGHT BE COMFORTABLE WITH THERE. 
          FOR EXAMPLE, OUTSIDE OF PROBLEMS WITH SIGHT LINES OR WHATEVER, THAT YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO, AND THAT THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE HELPFUL FOR US. 
          UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ARFI. 
          THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. 
          UH, YEAH, I THINK THIS IS A GOOD PROJECT. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY THE TRUCKS, THEN THERE IS NO REASON FOR THE TRUCK TO GO INSIDE THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          YOU'RE GONNA BE USING THE SHORT ROUTE, GETTING FROM THE HIGHWAY TO THE BUILDING AND GETTING OUT. 
          SO IN FACT, THIS WILL REDUCE THE TRAFFIC, UH, FROM, FROM THE SIDE. 
          BECAUSE IF YOU TAKE OUT THE OFFICE BUILDING, THERE WOULD BE NO SMALLER CAR GOING TO THE BUILDING, DRIVING AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          SO YOU'RE TAKING OUT TRAFFIC FROM THE ROAD, UH, BUT YOU'RE GONNA BE BRINGING SOME LARGE TRUCK, BUT THAT THEY'RE GONNA TAKE THE SHORT ROUTE, NOT THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE IMPACTING, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD ANYMORE. 
          I THINK THIS IS GONNA BE BETTER THAN THE CURRENT CONDITION. 
          SO, AND OF COURSE, PUTTING THOSE SIGN THAT WILL, HOPEFULLY THE PEOPLE WILL FOLLOW THAT NO TRUCK SIGN, ONCE THAT'S INSTALLED, THAT WILL REDUCE, AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, THAT WILL IMPROVE THE CONDITION. 
          BUT THOSE ARE DIFFERENT ISSUE. 
          AND, UH, PUTTING SOME ADDITIONAL BUSHES LANDSCAPE IN THE FRONT, YEAH. 
          THAT WILL REDUCE THE NOISE. 
          BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE SITE, THE VISIBILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S SAFE. 
          SO THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE CONDITION WE CAN, WE CAN'T PUT THAT TODAY BECAUSE WITHOUT KNOWING HOW YOU'RE GONNA PUT CONDITION, UH, ADDITIONAL SCREENING. 
          SO, AND UH, BUT GO AHEAD. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          SORRY. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          SO I THINK WITH THAT, UH, ALWAYS THAT WITHOUT PUTTING ANY CONVICTION ON THE TIME ALSO. 
          YEAH. 
          LET'S, LET'S GET ALL THE WAY TO THE, WELL, WELL I ONLY HAVE, I HAVE, I HAVE A QUESTION. 
          IT'S, IT'S A POINT OF ORDER. 
          SURE. 
          PLEASE. 
          TO DON. 
          WHAT, WHAT COUNCILWOMAN JUSTICES IS NOT SOMETHING THAT'S EVEN A PART OF THE, OF THIS PROJECT. 
          SO THE WHOLE PROJECT IS THE PD, THE WHOLE PARCEL IS THE WHOLE PARCEL. 
          THE PD? YES, YES. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          I WAS, IT IS UP TO BRECKENRIDGE. 
          I THOUGHT IT ALL THE WAY TO BRECKENRIDGE. 
          YEAH. 
          I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST THE, THE NEW SECTION, BECAUSE I THOUGHT THE EXISTING SEC SECTION IS ALREADY ALL EXISTING. 
          THAT'S, THATS WHY I'M ASKING THE QUESTION. 
          I'M NOT ARGUING WHAT SHE'S BRINGING UP. 
          I'M JUST SIMPLY ASKING ARE WE OVERREACHING EVEN? CAN WE DO THAT? CAN WE TALK? RIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          NO, WE'RE DOING A WHOLE PD FOR THE ENTIRE 66 ACRE CAMPUS. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT, THAT WAS MY QUESTION. 
          'CAUSE I WAS CONFUSED ABOUT THANKS. 
          YEAH. 
          THE FOCUS, THE FOCUS ON THE NEW STUFF, BUT THE OLD STUFF, UH, DOES, IS A PART OF THIS. 
          YES. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER, DORIAN. 
          YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I, UH, I JUST WANT TO, UH, UH, UM, AGREE WITH, UM, I HAD THE SAME CONCERN AS, UH, COUNCILWOMAN JUSTICE. 
          UM, AND SHE BEAT ME TO THE PUNCH. 
          BUT I WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO PROPOSE AS WELL THAT WE ADD SOME TYPE OF BUFFERING THERE. 
          'CAUSE I KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT, WE HAVE A LOT OF RESIDENTS THAT HAVE HAD CONCERN. 
          AND TWO, AESTHETICALLY I THINK IT WOULD LOOK ATTRACTIVE AS LONG AS IT DOESN'T INTERFERE WITH THE I THE SITE. 
          AND THAT MAY BE SOMETHING POTENTIALLY AS THE PERMIT IS OR THEY SUBMIT FOR PERMIT. 
          DOES, CAN THAT BE PART OF WHAT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT LOOKS AT AND REQUIRES? OR, OR IS THAT SOMETHING AS TO WELL, HOW'S THAT GET APPROVED? SO, SO LET, LET'S GET THROUGH THE DISCUSSION AND WHEN I, I I'LL PROPOSE, I'LL PROPOSE WHAT I THINK WOULD BE, WOULD MAKE SENSE. 
          OKAY. 
          I DON'T, WE, I DON'T THINK WE WANNA PASS AN ORDINANCE THAT JUST LEAVES IT OPEN-ENDED. 
          YES. 
          THINK WE NEED PUT SOME KIND OF A CRITERIA TO IT. 
          FAIR ENOUGH. 
          YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR, OR THOUGHTS ON SOME OF THE QUESTIONS YOU'VE HEARD ASKED? I ACTUALLY JUST HAVE A QUESTION. 
          YES. 
          BECAUSE, JUST, JUST SO THAT I'M, WHOOPS, WRONG BUTTON. 
          UM, SO LEMME SEE IF I CAN SEE MYSELF. 
          SO THE RESIDENTS ARE HERE, RIGHT? YES. 
          SO ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT JUST IN THIS AREA? NO. 
          OR GOING ALL THE WAY ACROSS? NO, JUST ASSUME THE ENTIRE SECTION ACROSS ON, ON BRECKENRIDGE. 
          WELL, FROM NO, WELL, WE CAN'T GO OFF HIS PROPERTY. 
          NO, NO. 
          HIS, HIS PROPERTY. 
          YEAH. 
          WE HAVE TO FROM BORDER. 
          IT'S, IT'S A LONG BRECKENRIDGE ON THE SOUTH SIDE FROM THE WESTERN BOUNDARY VIEW PROPERTY LINE OR THE WESTERN BOUND, UH, BOUNDARY PROPERTY LINE OR THE EASTERN BOUNDARY PROPERTY LINE. 
          THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE PLANTING AREA THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, I, UH, OKAY. 
          NOT TO CORRECT YOU TALKING ABOUT, I THINK, I THINK YOU SAID SOUTHERN SIDE. 
          THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THE NORTHERN SIDE? NO, THE SOUTHERN SIDE OF BRECKENRIDGE. 
          THE SOUTHERN SIDE OF, OH, SOUTHERN SIDE OF BRECKEN SIDE, WHICH, YES. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          YEAH. 
          I JUST WANNA CLARIFICATION AND UNDERSTAND. 
          YEAH. 
          EVEN THOUGH AMAZON'S THE ONE RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO US. 
          SO IT JUST YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          KIND OF. 
          OKAY. 
          LOOK, WE WANT YOU TO BE A GOLD MEMBER, UH, UH, GOLD MEDAL WINNER. 
          YEAH. 
          AESTHETICALLY TRYING TO DO THAT ON THE, ON THE NEW. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? ALRIGHT, IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN LET'S GO AHEAD AND OPEN 
          [04:20:01]
THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, AND SEE IF THERE ARE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS. 
          NO CARDS SUBMITTED. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT'S LOOKING TO SPEAK. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          I'LL TAKE A MOTION. 
          YES. 
          UH, MAYOR PRO TEMP HU I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          WONDERFUL. 
          AND SECOND, I SECONDED. 
          ALRIGHT, SO WE'VE GOT A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          AND A SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? NOPE. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THAT'S, UH, UNANIMOUS. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          ANY DISCUSSION FROM Y'ALL'S PERSPECTIVE? UH, THE ONE THING I WILL POINT OUT, I THINK THIS IS ACCURATE, IS ON THAT SECOND BULLET, WHENEVER WE DO GET TO THE POTENTIAL MOTION, WE WOULD PROBABLY BE REMOVING THE AND PAY THE COST PART. 
          EXACTLY. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO YOU WOULD JUST MAYBE PUT A SLASH THROUGH EVERYTHING WHEN IT STARTS SAYING AND PAY, YOU COULD SCRATCH OUT THE REST OF IT. 
          'CAUSE IT SOUNDED LIKE MR. MAGNER WAS THINKING THAT THAT WOULD SOMETHING THE CITY WOULD DO. 
          UH, BUT THE REST OF THAT ON ITEM NUMBER TWO, UH, WOULD EXIST. 
          AND THEN THE ONLY QUESTION OTHERWISE WOULD BE SOME SORT OF LANGUAGE GO. 
          SO, SO ONE, ONE, UH, I THINK VERY REASONABLE, UH, VERY, UM, CONSISTENT APPROACH WE COULD TAKE ALONG BRECKENRIDGE IS, UH, NOW WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING IN A, AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE THERE ARE, UM, SEVERAL TREES ALREADY, BUT YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'VE AGREED TO ONE TREE EVERY 30, UM, FEET, EVERY 30 LINEAR FEET. 
          UH, WHAT'S THAT STREET? UM, TELECOM. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO I WOULD SAY YOU COULD MAKE A MOTION TO INCLUDE A, A, UM, A UM, REQUIREMENT FOR ONE TREE ON AVERAGE EVERY 30 FEET. 
          AND WHAT THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO DO IS TO, TO SIT DOWN WITH YOU, LOOK AT, LOOK AT THE EXISTING TREES, AND THEN KIND OF TRY TO STRIKE THAT BALANCE. 
          UM, SO, UM, SO COULD WE POTENTIALLY TAKE THAT THIRD BULLET, UM, AND USE THAT EXACT STATEMENT FOR BOTH THE NEW CONSTRUCTION AREA YES. 
          AS WELL AS THE STREET THAT BORDERS BRECKENRIDGE. 
          YEAH, BUT I MEAN, MY PRIMARY CONCERN IS THAT SECTION RIGHT THERE BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A WAY TO ADD MORE DENSITY TO THAT SECTION. 
          I'M LESS CONCERNED TO THE STUFF TO THE WEST. 
          RIGHT. 
          LIKE I, I'M TRYING TO MITIGATE THE NOISE FOR THE FOLKS WHO LIVE DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE EXISTING TRUCK BASE. 
          SURE. 
          AND SO, YOU KNOW, WELL, YOU MIGHT AS WELL MAKE IT GO ALL THE WAY ACROSS. 
          I GET IT. 
          BUT I DON'T THINK THEY'RE EVERY 30 FEET IS ENOUGH, RIGHT? LIKE, I MEAN, WELL, THERE'S ALSO SIX PER HUNDRED, UH, ON THE ORNAMENTALS. 
          SO YOU WOULD BE PEPPERING THOSE IN AS WELL, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          I MEAN, YOU'RE A TREE GUY, YOU THINK THAT'S ENOUGH? DON'T, I'M NOT, I MEAN, I'M NOT AN EXPERT. 
          I'M JUST USING WHAT, SO THERE ARE ALREADY, THERE ARE ALREADY FIVE LARGE, PROBABLY EIGHT TO 10 INCH CALIBER TREES THAT ARE PLANTED THERE. 
          NOW I THINK WHAT WE DON'T WANNA DO IS ADD, DESTROY THOSE, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          AND SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS STRIKE A BALANCE OF SAYING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE, AND AND QUITE FRANKLY ON THE OTHER SIDE, THERE'S NINE TREES. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THERE'S NOT GONNA BE A LOT OF, THERE'S NOT GONNA BE A LOT OF ROOM FOR LARGE TREES TO BE PLANTED. 
          I THINK THE SECOND PART OF THAT THIRD BULLET IS WHERE YOU'RE GONNA PROBABLY HAVE YOUR MOST PLANTING, WHICH WILL BE THE ORNAMENTALS THAT WILL, YOU KNOW, CREATE A, CREATE AN AREA LIKE AN UNDERCARRIAGE. 
          AND THESE CANOPIES ARE VERY TALL ALREADY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          GREAT TREES. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, I MEAN, I'M, I'M, IF THAT'S WHAT THE REST OF THE COUNCIL WANTS, IT'S FINE. 
          I'M, I'M REALLY JUST WORRIED ABOUT HOW DO WE BUFFER THAT SOUND FOR THOSE RESIDENTS BECAUSE THAT'S THEIR PRIMARY CONCERN. 
          SO IF ANYONE HAS A DIFFERENT SUGGESTION, I'M OPEN TO IT. 
          SO, SO THAT IS THAT THIRD BULLET. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU THINK, UH, TO USE, UH, YOU, YOU USED THE WORD AVERAGE, WHICH WE COULD, WELL ONLY BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE DEALING WITH A BUILT ENVIRONMENT ALREADY. 
          YEAH, OF COURSE. 
          AND YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO GET IT. 
          EXACTLY. 
          THAT'S TOTALLY FINE. 
          30 FEET ON. 
          SO SHOULD WE JUST USE THAT THIRD BULLET BUT ADD, UM, THE FRONTAGE ON BRECKENRIDGE? YEAH. 
          I THINK, UM, YEAH, JUST TAKE OUT IN THE NEW CONSTRUCTION AREA AND FILL THE UNDER AND JUST PUT A MINIMUM QUANTITY, ET CETERA, ON BRECKENRIDGE AND TELECOM. 
          YEAH. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO CAN I MAKE A MOTION AND SEE IF WE MOVE? I THINK THAT WOULD BE LOVELY. 
          BUT I SEE A FEW OTHER LIGHTS ON OR THERE. 
          IS THERE MORE? OKAY. 
          SO I SEE, UH, UH, PLEASE. 
          UH, OKAY THEN I, I WOULD MOVE TO APPROVE ZONING FILE 25 DASH 11 IN ADOPTION OF THE ORDINANCE GRANTING THE CHANGE IN ZONING ON THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF REC BRECKENRIDGE BOULEVARD AND TELECOM PARKWAY WITH THE FOLLOWING AMENDMENTS, THE CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN BE AMENDED TO SHOW THE FUTURE PARKING AREA BETWEEN THE EASTERN EASTERN FACADE OF THE BUILDING AND TELECOM PARKWAY AS LANDSCAPE AREA. 
          THE PROPERTY OWNER WILL PROVIDE INTERNAL WAVE FINDING SIGNS, DIRECTING TRUCK TRAFFIC IN ACCORDANCE WITH TRUCK CIRCULATION PLAN IN THE NEW CONSTRUCTION AREA, A MINIMUM QUANTITY OF ONE CANOPY TREE FOR EVERY 30 FEET OF SINGLE FRONTAGE. 
          AND A MINIMUM QUANTITY OF SIX ORNAMENTAL TREE FOR EVERY A HUNDRED FEET OF STORE OF STREET FRONTAGE SHALL BE PLANTED IN THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER ON, UH, ON BRECKENRIDGE. 
          UM, A MINIMUM QUANTITY OF ONE CANOPY TREE FOR AN AVERAGE OF 30 FEET OF STREET FRONTAGE. 
          AND AN AVERAGE MINIMUM QUANTITY OF SIX ORNAMENTAL TREE FOR EVERY A HUNDRED FEET OF STREET FRONTAGE SHALL BE PLANTED IN THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER. 
          ALRIGHT, THAT SOUNDED LIKE YOU COVERED ALL THE BASES. 
          UH, YES. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE. 
          SECOND. 
          ALRIGHT, SO WE'VE GOT A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHIN RIDER SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE. 
          UH, ANY DISCUSSION 
          [04:25:01]
ON THE MOTION? ALRIGHT, ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? ALRIGHT. 
          UNANIMOUS. 
          CONGRATULATIONS. 
          A FEW MORE TREES, BUT BOY, IT'S GONNA LOOK GOOD. 
          IT'S GONNA LOOK AWESOME. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          APPRECIATE IT. 
          YEAH, THANK YOU. 
          YEAH, YOU'RE SETTING A NEW STANDARD FOR US, . 
          WONDERFUL. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          [11. CONSENT AGENDA]
UM, SO WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          AND I SEE COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE HAS HER LIGHT ON. 
          YEAH. 
          MAYOR, I JUST QUICKLY WANNA PULL A TWO FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA, UM, JUST TO PROVIDE CLARIFICATION FOR THE PUBLIC, UH, IF FAIR ENOUGH IF YOU WANNA DO THAT QUICKLY AND THEN VOTE. 
          DOES THAT WORK? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. 
          YEAH. 
          I, I RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM A, FROM, UM, A RESIDENT WHO WAS CONCERNED THAT WE WERE VOTING ON ACTUAL, UH, RATE INCREASES TONIGHT. 
          I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY FOR THE PUBLIC THAT ALL WE ARE DOING TONIGHT IS ALLOWING OUR STAFF ADDITIONAL TIME TO NEGOTIATE. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, AS PART OF THE GROUP. 
          UM, SO THAT'S THE ONLY CLARIFICATION I WANTED TO MAKE, GIVEN THE CONCERN. 
          YEAH. 
          I WOKE UP IN A COLD SWEAT THE OTHER NIGHT, UH, WORRIED THAT SOMEHOW THIS COUNCIL MEETING WOULDN'T HAPPEN AND WE WOULD MISS THE DEADLINE FOR, FOR BEING ABLE TO ACTUALLY DO THIS THING, WHICH IS TO SUSPEND IT. 
          SO WITH THAT, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          YEP. 
          SO OTHERWISE CONSENT AGENDA, YOU'RE MOVING TO PROVE IT. 
          PROVE IT AS IT IS. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          YES. 
          AND COUNCIL MEMBER DORIAN, I'LL SECOND THAT. 
          ALRIGHT, SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? ALRIGHT. 
          IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. 
          [12. REPORT ON ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST]
AND ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST. 
          YES. 
          MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHIN. 
          I'VE GOT ONE REALLY QUICK AND I WANNA MAKE SURE I SAY IT CORRECTLY. 
          SO JUST ONE. 
          NO PROBLEM. 
          QUICK SECOND HERE. 
          UM, SO SATURDAY MORNING, JUST BEFORE I CAME TO OUR GOAL SETTING, UM, SESSION, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO THE, UM, FREE MEDICAL CAMP THAT WAS PUT FORTH. 
          AND YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO HELP ME WITH THIS MAYOR. 
          SURE. 
          SO I GET IT RIGHT. 
          THREE, HELP ME WITH THE ACTUAL NAME. 
          UH, I, I JUST KNOW IT AS A, AS THE SI CENTER. 
          I, THE SI CENTER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, THEN I'LL, I'LL DO S CENTER, CENTER DALLAS, CY CENTER. 
          UM, IT WAS A FREE MEDICAL CAMP SCREENING CAMP THAT THEY PUT TOGETHER, JUST BARELY OFF OF, OUT OF RICHARDSON, ACTUALLY OVER ON PLANO. 
          AN INCREDIBLE SETUP THAT THEY HAD. 
          THEY WENT ALL THE WAY FROM, UM, HAVING, UM, UM, LAB TESTS BEING DONE TO DENTAL SCREENINGS, TO EYE SCREENINGS, TO SPORTS PHYSICALS, UM, TO FAMILY, UH, FULL FAMILY PRACTICE. 
          AND, UM, HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO CUT THE RIBBON ON BEHALF OF OUR CITY COUNCIL TO, TO OPEN UP THEIR FREE MEDICAL SCREENING CAMP. 
          UM, AND SO I WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO THEM FOR DOING THAT. 
          I WANNA THANK THEM FOR LETTING ME COME UP AND TAKE PART IN THAT. 
          AND THEY ALSO, UM, WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AND SEE ABOUT DOING IT NEXT YEAR IN RICHARDSON. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA SEE IF WE CAN MAYBE LOOK AT THAT AND BRING IT FROM A TOWN DUE NORTH OF US. 
          SO, UM, JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO THEM FOR, FOR PUTTING THAT ON. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WHAT WHAT A BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY, UM, UH, A COMMUNITY I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT, BUT REALLY, REALLY COOL. 
          AND, UH, I DON'T FEEL AT ALL SLIGHTED THAT AFTER THEY'VE ASKED ME TO SPEAK ONCE THEY DON'T WANNA SEE ME EVER AGAIN. 
          SO, UH, I'LL JUST, I'LL TAKE THAT AS A SIGN. 
          UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, BARRIOS. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UM, SARAH DAY, UH, MAYOR, YOU AND I WERE ABLE TO JOIN, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD THROUGH A PARTY FOR ONE OF OUR RESIDENTS WHO TURNED A HUNDRED YEARS OLD. 
          SO I HAD THE, I HAD THE PLEASURE, UH, PRESENTING THAT PROCLAMATION. 
          I KNOW YOU JOINED US ON THE, ON THE TAIL END OF THAT. 
          UM, SO HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO JV. 
          UH, JAMES BETHEL WAS BORN IN RICHESON A HUNDRED YEARS AGO AND, UH, CELEBRATED A HUNDRED YEARS SATURDAY. 
          VERY, VERY COOL THING. 
          I, I GOTTA SAY. 
          IT WAS, IT WAS NEAT, NEAT SEEING HIM AND, AND HOW MUCH FAMILY AND EVERYBODY ELSE GOT OUT THERE IN THE A HUNDRED PLUS DEGREE WEATHER TO, TO HANG OUT. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, IT WOULD BE A HUGE MISTAKE IF WE DIDN'T TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO EMBARRASS THE HECK OUT OF OFFICER STEPHANIE LEDGERWOOD, WHO IS RETIRING AFTER 31 YEARS WITH RPD. 
          OH. 
          THIS IS HER LAST COUNCIL MEETING WITH US. 
          OH MY GOSH. 
          SHE'S RETIRING EFFECTIVE THURSDAY. 
          SO BIG ROUND OF APPLAUSE. 
          YAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THREE ONE. 
          YOU WE GOT US. 
          WE GOT A STANDING O AT 10:38 PM FOR THE RECORD. 
          THANK, THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU FOR KEEPING US SAFE. 
          WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT. 
          ALRIGHT, ANYBODY ELSE? ALRIGHT. 
          SEEING NO OTHER ITEMS, UH, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED AT 10:38 PM I, I WANTED TO HOLD ON JUST A LITTLE LONGER. 
          I NEED KILLING.
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