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THIS MEETING OF THE RICHARDSON CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER AT 6:00 PM COUNCIL MEMBER CORCORAN, IF YOU'LL LEAD US IN INVOCATION AND PLEDGE.ALRIGHT, GOD, PLEASE GIVE US WISDOM, COURAGE, HUMILITY, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, FOR A LONG COUNCIL MEETING STAMINA.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL, HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD.
[3. MINUTES OF THE JULY 28, 2025 COUNCIL MEETING AND AUGUST 4-5, 2025 BUDGET WORKSHOP]
NUMBER THREE ARE THE MINUTES OF THE JULY 28TH, 2025 COUNCIL MEETING.AND AUGUST 4TH AND FIFTH, 2025.
COUNCIL MEMBER DORIAN, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, APPROVE THOSE AS NOTED.
ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[4. PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS AND VISITORS FORUM]
FOUR, PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS AND VISITORS FORM.I AM NOT IN RECEIPT OF ANY CARDS IN ADVANCE OF 5:00 PM DEADLINE.
HOWEVER, UH, I DO BELIEVE WE HAVE AT LEAST ONE PUBLIC, UH, ONE VISITOR.
AND, UH, SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND READ THE INSTRUCTIONS FOR BOTH, UH, THE VISITORS SECTION AS WELL AS FOR THE PUBLIC HEARINGS LATER TONIGHT.
UH, DURING THIS PORTION OF THE COUNCIL MEETING, 30 MINUTES WILL BE ALLOCATED FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO PROVIDE COMMENTS ON TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON AGENDA ITEMS. IF YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK ON A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM, PLEASE WAIT UNTIL THAT PUBLIC HEARING IS OPENED.
IF, UM, SPEAKERS SHOULD COMPLETE A PUBLIC COMMENT CARD AND SUBMIT IT TO THE CITY SECRETARY BEFORE THE MEETING OR THE HEARING SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER THAT THEY'RE RECEIVED.
WHEN YOUR NAME IS CALLED, PLEASE STEP TO THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
ALL SPEAKERS WILL BE LIMITED TO MIN TO A MAXIMUM OF FIVE MINUTES, AS INDICATED BY THE TIMERS.
WHEN THE TIMER BEEPS, THE SPEAKERS SHOULD CONCLUDE THEIR COMMENTS PROMPTLY.
SPEAKERS MUST NOT PHYSICALLY APPROACH MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL OR STAFF AND SHOULD REMAIN AT THE PODIUM DURING THEIR COMMENTS.
SPEAKERS WITH HANDOUTS MUST PROVIDE THEM TO THE CITY SECRETARY FOR DISTRIBUTION SPEAKERS.
SUBMITTING COMMENTS ON THE SAME TOPIC ARE ENCOURAGED TO REDUCE REPETITIVE REMARKS BY INDICATING THEIR COMMENTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN ADDRESSED, OR BY SELECTING A REPRESENTATIVE SPEAKER, THE TEXAS OPEN MEETING ACT PROHIBITS THE CITY COUNCIL FROM DISCUSSING OR TAKING ACTION ON ITEMS THAT ARE NOT POSTED ON THE AGENDA.
THE CITY COUNCIL AND STAFF WILL NOT AFFIRM OR OPPOSE ANY SPEAKER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.
THE MAYOR OR CITY MANAGER MAY RESPOND WITH FACTS OF POLICY OR DIRECT CITY STAFF TO RESPOND TO THE SPEAKER.
AFTER THE MEETING, THE AUDIENCE HAS ASKED TO REFRAIN FROM APPLAUDING OR THEIR EXPRESSIONS OF SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION, A COPY OF THE COUNCIL RULES OF ORDER AND PROCEDURE.
AND THESE GUIDELINES MAY BE FOUND ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE.
AT THIS TIME, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE TO SILENCE THEIR CELL PHONES FOR THE DURATION OF THE MEETING.
I'LL TURN IT OVER TO CITY SECRETARY.
MAY I HAVE ONE SPEAKER, JASON EDINGTON.
UM, JASON EDINGTON, UH, ADDRESS IS, UH, PO BOX 99 CRANDALL, TEXAS 7 5 1 1 4.
UM, I, I JUST WANTED TO COME BEFORE YOU GUYS.
I, I'M RUNNING FOR, UH, DISTRICT TWO TEXAS SENATE SEAT.
AND, UM, THE FIRST THING I THAT I LIKE TO START OFF WITH, UH, AS I'VE KIND OF MADE MY ROUNDS IS, UM, MY FUNDAMENTAL PURPOSE AS I'M RUNNING.
SO, UM, AND MATTHEW, IT TALKS ON, UM, BASICALLY DO UNTO OTHERS AS YOU WOULD HAVE THEM DO UNTO YOURSELVES.
SO REGARDLESS OF THE SITUATION, POLITICS, THE NATURE OF IT RIGHT NOW HAS BECOME SO DIVISIVE, SO VOLATILE, UM, THAT ONE OF MY FUNDAMENTAL REASONS FOR RUNNING IS, AS I'VE SEEN THINGS CASCADE AND HAPPEN, IS, IS TO BE AN EXAMPLE THAT EVEN IF YOU HAVE FUNDAMENTAL DIFFERENCES, YOU CAN STILL FIND UNITY IN THAT, IN, IN, IN THAT APPROACH.
UM, AND I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE SPECTRUM.
AND THAT'S MY FIRST, UH, CONVERSATION, MY FIRST STARTING POINT WHEN I SPEAK WITH THEM, REGARDLESS OF WHAT THEIR ISSUE IS.
UH, THE SECOND PIECE IS, IS THAT I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT, UM, WITH REGARDS TO CITY LEADERSHIP, UM, THAT THERE BE A, A CONTINUITY BETWEEN CITY LEADERSHIP AND STATE LEADERSHIP.
UM, I THINK AS, AS YOU GUYS GO AND PUT TOGETHER YOUR BUDGETS, UH, I, I LIVE IN FORNY, ALTHOUGH MY ADDRESS I SAID IS, IS CRANDALL.
UM, WE'VE SEEN 30% GROWTH OVER THE PAST YEAR, AND A LOT OF CHALLENGES THAT HAVE COME WITH THAT ARE ROADS OR SCHOOLS OR RESOURCES, THINGS THAT WE ARE REACTING TO REACTIVELY.
AND WHAT I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, AND HOPEFULLY THIS IS THE MESSAGE AGAIN, REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENS NEXT YEAR, IS THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE THAT KIND OF RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN CD LEADERSHIP AND ESTATE LEADERSHIP.
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THE, THE, IT'S IT'S PUBLIC SERVICE FOR A REASON.STATE LEADERSHIP WORKS FOR YOU AS MY TRUE, TRUE BELIEF.
SO AS YOU GUYS BEGIN TO PUT TOGETHER YOUR BUDGETS AND AS YOU GUYS GET TO LOOK AT WHAT THINGS YOU NEED TO, TO ALLOCATE FOR LEGISLATION, I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.
I ALSO THINK A, A BIG PIECE OF IT IS THAT YOU KNOW WHAT, UM, YOUR COMMUNITY NEEDS, NOT PEOPLE IN AUSTIN.
SO IT'S IMPORTANT FOR ME THAT MORE LEGISLATION CONTROL, MORE LEGISLATIVE CONTROL, MORE RESPONSIBILITY, UM, MORE APPROACH BE GIVEN TO CITY LEADERSHIP.
UM, YOU WOULDN'T WANT SOMEBODY COMING INTO YOUR HOME TELLING YOU HOW TO RAISE YOUR KIDS OR HOW TO DECORATE YOUR FURNITURE.
UM, NOT LIVING IN THE COMMUNITY AS MUCH AS I'M, I MAY BE EVEN BE INVOLVED AND GET TO KNOW PEOPLE.
I WON'T KNOW THE SPECIFICS OF WHAT YOU NEED, WHAT POLICE OFF PEACE OFFICERS NEED, WHAT YOUR FIREFIGHTERS NEED, WHAT YOUR SCHOOLS NEED.
SO, UM, I THINK THAT'S A FUNDAMENTAL THING THAT WE NEED, NEED TO DO ACROSS THE STATE.
AND MY HOPE IN ALL OF THIS IS THAT THAT MESSAGE GETS CONVEYED EITHER THROUGH, UM, ME DOING FORUM LIKE THIS OR COMING TO EVENTS LIKE THIS AND SPEAKING TO YOU OR, UM, THROUGH ME BEING, UH, A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE STATE.
SO JUST WANTED TO GET OUT AND, AND INTRODUCE MYSELF, MEET YOU GUYS.
AND, UM, I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH SEVERAL COUNCIL MEMBERS FROM ACROSS, UM, DISTRICT TWO.
AND I KNOW RICHARDSON IS PROBABLY THE ONE THAT'S SPLIT UP THE MOST.
SO YOU GUYS, I THINK GOT TWO DISTRICTS, MAYBE THREE, UM, WITHIN YOUR AREA, WOULD LOVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SIT DOWN AND, AND MEET WITH YOU.
BUT, UH, FOR ME IT'S BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS, UNDERSTANDING WHAT YOU NEED, AND THEN KIND OF BEING CONNECTED AND FEELING LIKE YOU ALWAYS HAVE A CONDUIT AND AN ADVOCATE IN ME WHEN WE GO TO AUSTIN, UM, UM, DURING THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? NO OTHER SPEAKERS.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? ALRIGHT,
[5. REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE 2025-2027 CITY COUNCIL STATEMENT OF GOALS]
MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE, REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE 20 25 20 27 CITY COUNCIL STATEMENT OF GOALS.UH, RICK ROBINSON, UH, FROM REMSEY CO CONSULTING IS JOINING US, UH, ONCE AGAIN TONIGHT.
UH, THIS IS A FOLLOW UP BRIEFING TO, UH, YOUR JULY 26TH COUNCIL, UH, GOALS WORKSHOP THAT OCCURRED IN THIS VERY ROOM.
UH, UH, RICK IS GONNA PRESENT FOR YOU TONIGHT, UH, AN UPDATED STATEMENT OF GOALS, OF COURSE, THAT INCLUDES YOUR, UH, RULES OF ENGAGEMENT, UH, YOUR, UH, VISION GOALS AND STRATEGIES, UH, AS WELL AS, UM, YOUR ROLE OF THE COUNCIL.
UH, RICK IS ALSO GONNA PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF A TEASER, IF YOU WILL, ON SOME TACTICS THAT WERE GENERATED THAT SATURDAY.
I'LL REMIND YOU, UH, THAT THIS IS NOT THE FULL LIST OF TACTICS IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM.
UM, I'LL BE RETURNING TO YOU, UH, IN THE NEXT, UH, FEW WEEKS, PROBABLY SUBSEQUENT TO BUDGET ADOPTION.
BUT, UH, UH, ABOUT THAT TIME PERIOD, UH, WITH A FULL LIST OF T TACTICS, UH, UH, PROPOSED LIST FOR YOU TO, FOR YOU TO CONSIDER THAT WOULD THEN ULTIMATELY MAKE UP YOUR WORK PLAN FOR THE, UH, 25 27, UM, UH, TERMS. SO, UH, RICK, THANKS FOR ALL THE GOOD WORK THAT, UH, SATURDAY IN ADVANCE AND SUBSEQUENTLY, AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU TO SHARE, UH, YOUR BRIEFING TONIGHT.
AND, UH, THANKS THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL FOR ALLOWING ME TO COME BACK AND PRESENT THIS TO YOU.
UH, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF A HISTORY.
WE STARTED THIS PROCESS, UH, ROUGHLY 12 YEARS AGO.
UH, WE WENT THROUGH A SERIES OF ABOUT THREE MONTHS WORTH OF MEETINGS TO COME UP WITH A AN ORIGINAL STRATEGIC PLAN.
UH, ONE THING I ALWAYS LIKE TO NOTE IS THAT THE PROCESS OF GOING THROUGH THE PLANNING IS ACTUALLY MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE PRODUCT OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN.
UH, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS YOU GUYS COULD GO AS A CITY, BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS THAT YOU'RE ALL PULLING IN THE SAME DIRECTION, AND THAT'S WHAT THE PROCESS IS INTENDED TO GO TO DO.
UH, WE HAVE DONE A REFRESH, UH, ROUGHLY EVERY TWO YEARS, UH, THIS YEAR'S PROCESS, UH, AS MOST OF THE REFRESHES HAVE DONE.
WE DEVELOPED A DRAFT SESSION, MET WITH EACH OF YOU ONE-ON-ONE, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WENT THROUGH THE GOALS AND THE AGENDA.
UM, WE HAD YOU COMPLETE, UH, SURVEY PRIOR TO THE SESSION.
UH, AND THEN ON THE 26TH WE WENT THROUGH, WE, UH, AND THE OUTPUT FALLS, UH, ON THE FOLLOWING SLIDES, THE ROLE OF COUNCIL.
UH, WE DISCUSSED, UH, SOME POTENTIAL CHANGES, BUT DECIDED THAT IT WAS GOOD AS WRITTEN.
SO THERE ARE NO CHANGES, UM, TO THIS.
SO I'M NOT, YOU GUYS CAN ALL READ, SO I'M NOT GONNA READ IT TO YOU.
UH, SAME IS TRUE WITH THE RULES OF ENGAGEMENT, ROLE OF COUNSEL, AND RULES OF ENGAGEMENT.
UH, STATEMENTS ARE MEANT TO PROVIDE A STAKE IN THE GROUND TO, FOR ME, AS A FACILITATOR, TO MAKE SURE WE STAY ON TRACK.
AND THEN FOR YOU GUYS AS A COUNCIL TO HOLD EACH OTHER ACCOUNTABLE FOR YOUR ROLE AND HOW YOU SAID YOU'RE GOING TO INTERACT WITH EACH OTHER, WITH STAFF, UH, AND WITH THE PUBLIC.
I LIKE WHAT YOU GUYS ADDED A COUPLE YEARS AGO, IS WE ALL AGREE TO USE THESE TO HOLD EACH OTHER ACCOUNTABLE.
SO ROLE OF COUNCIL RULES OF ENGAGEMENT ARE KIND OF AN ORGANIZING, UH, KIND
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OF OVERRIDING STATEMENTS TO HELP YOU GUYS, UH, AGAIN, HOLD EACH OTHER ACCOUNTABLE.UH, AND THEN WE GET INTO SOME OF THE ELEMENTS OF THE STRATEGIC PLATE.
I I ADDED THIS SLIDE LATER AFTER TALKING TO DON THIS MORNING, JUST TO KIND OF FOR THE AUDIENCE AND FOR ANYBODY WATCHING, SO THAT THE REST OF THE SLIDES MIGHT MAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE SENSE.
SO, LOOKING AT THE ORGANIZING STRUCTURE OR THE ELEMENTS OF A OVERALL STRATEGY OR A STRATEGIC PLAN, UH, WE LOOK AT IT AS A THREE STORY BUILDING.
SO I WANT YOU TO FOCUS FIRST ON THE, THE BASEMENT, IF YOU WILL, OR THE FOUNDATION.
AND YOUR BASEMENT OR FOUNDATION IS YOUR MISSION.
EVERY ORGANIZATION EXISTS TO PROVIDE SOMETHING TO SOMEBODY THAT'S A MISSION.
I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO FANCY WITH IT.
IT'S JUST WHAT DO YOU DO AND WHO DO YOU DO IT FOR? EVERY CITY, IN MY OPINION, HAS 85 TO 95% OF THE SAME MISSION TO PROVIDE A CLEAN, SAFE PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO EAT, WORK, STAY, PLAY, VISIT, ET CETERA.
SO I DON'T TYPICALLY DO MISSION STATEMENTS FOR CITIES.
THE VISION, HOWEVER, IS WHERE YOU HAVE, UH, A LOT OF DIFFERENCE.
EVERY CITY WANTS TO BECOME SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
UH, AND THAT'S WHAT WE, THAT WAS OUR STARTING POINT IN WORKING WITH THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL, IS TO DEFINE WHAT IS THE VISION.
SO THE VISION IS A LITTLE BIT FUZZIER.
THAT'S WHY IT'S OFF IN THE CLOUDS A LITTLE BIT.
SO IF YOU LOOK UP IN THE CLOUDS, YOU'VE GOT YOUR VISION, AND I SIMPLY WANT TO KNOW WHAT I CALL A VISION IS WHEN YOU CLOSE YOUR EYES AND THINK ABOUT THE FUTURE, WHAT DO YOU WANT YOUR CITY TO LOOK LIKE? AND THEN YOU DESCRIBE THAT, UH, IT IS FUZZY.
SO WE NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE DEFINITION AROUND IT.
AND THOSE ARE THE, THAT'S THE ROOFTOP OF THE BUILDING.
GOALS FURTHER DEFINE YOUR VISION, AND WE BROKE IT INTO FOUR BALANCED SCORECARD GOALS.
UH, GOAL FOR WHAT DO YOU WANT YOUR FINANCES TO LOOK LIKE, YOUR CUSTOMER'S EXPERIENCE, YOUR INTERNAL PROCESSES, AND, UH, CULTURE SLASH EMPLOYEE.
IF YOU WANT TO GET TO THE ROOF OF A BUILDING AND YOU'RE ON THE GROUND FLOOR, YOU GOTTA TAKE THE STAIRS, THE STAIRWELL OR YOUR BROAD AVENUES OF EFFORT, THOSE ARE YOUR STRATEGIES.
EVERY NOW AND THEN, YOU GOTTA REST AND CHECK YOUR PROGRESS.
THOSE ARE THE LANDINGS, THOSE ARE OBJECTIVES.
THAT'S WHERE MEASUREMENT COMES IN.
AND THE INDIVIDUAL STEPS ARE YOUR TACTICS.
THOSE ARE THE STEPS YOU TAKE TO ACHIEVE THE OBJECTIVES, IMPLEMENT THE STRATEGIES, ACHIEVE THE GOALS, AND ACCOMPLISH YOUR VISION.
SO WHAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE ON THE NEXT FEW SLIDES ARE THE VISION, THE GOALS, THE STRATEGIES, AND A FEW OF THE TACTICS IS GONNA TAKE TO GET THERE.
YOUR VISION, UH, THERE WAS ONLY A MINOR CHANGE, AND THAT'S IN ITALICS AT THE VERY BOTTOM.
SO THE VISION IS THE SAME, UH, MOSTLY AS IT WAS WHEN WE CAME IN.
SO, UH, YOUR VISION IS FOR RICHARDSON TO BE RECOGNIZED AND STUDIED FOR BEING A WELL RUN, PROFESSIONALLY MANAGED, FORWARD-LOOKING CITY, AND FOR YOUR ABILITY TO CREATE A CLEAN, SAFE, VIBRANT, DIVERSE, AND INCLUSIVE COMMUNITY IN WHICH ALL RESIDENTS AND STAKEHOLDERS ENJOY A HIGH QUALITY AMENITIES, ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT.
THE FIRST ONE DESCRIBES, UH, MORE FOR RESIDENTS AND VISIT VISITORS.
AND THE SECOND ONE IS MORE, UH, FROM A BUSINESS PERSPECTIVE, RESIDENTS AND VISITORS VALUE OUR ACCESSIBILITY, THE QUALITY AND VARIETY OF OUR CITY SERVICES, RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES, GREEN SPACES, HOUSING, EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES, RETAIL AND RESTAURANT CHOICES, AND TRANSPORTATION OPTIONS.
AND THE SECOND BULLET, WE HAVE A THRIVING, DIVERSE BUSINESS COMMUNITY WHOSE SUCCESS IS SUPPORTED BY OUR SUPERIOR INFRASTRUCTURE, ACCESS TO A TALENTED, WELL EDUCATED AND ENGAGED WORKFORCE, A BUSINESS FRIENDLY ENVIRONMENT, ACCESS TO THE NORTH TEXAS REGION, AND A CULTURE THAT EMBRACES AND NURTURES ENTREPRENEURSHIP AND INNOVATION.
YOU MIGHT LOOK AT THIS STATEMENT OR OVERALL, AND THERE MIGHT BE ELEMENTS THAT YOU SAY, WELL, THAT THAT'S NOT TRUE.
IF THAT'S THE CASE, THAT'S GOOD, BECAUSE THIS IS AN ASPIRATIONAL STATEMENT OF WHAT YOU WANT TO ACHIEVE IN IN THE FUTURE.
IF YOU'RE ALREADY, IF YOU'RE DESCRIBING WHAT YOU ARE TODAY, IT'S NOT A VISION, IT'S JUST A DESCRIPTION.
SO HOPEFULLY THERE'S ASPIRATIONAL ELEMENTS OF THAT.
UH, THE GOALS STAYED THE SAME.
UH, FOR CO FOR YOUR EMPLOYEES, YOUR GOAL IS TO HAVE WELL-TRAINED, ENGAGED IN THE INNOVATIVE EMPLOYEES WHO DELIVER AN EXCEPTIONAL CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE WHILE WORKING IN A SAFE, INCLUSIVE, AND EQUITABLE ENVIRONMENT FOR YOUR BUSINESS PROCESSES.
YOUR GOAL IS TO HAVE CLEAR, EFFECTIVE, EFFICIENT, CONTINUOUSLY APPROVED AND CONSISTENTLY APPLIED PROCESSES AND POLICIES THAT MAKE IT EASY FOR RESIDENTS, EMPLOYEES, AND ALL STAKEHOLDERS TO
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INTERACT WITH THE CITY.THE GOAL FOR YOUR CUSTOMERS IS TO HAVE RESIDENTS AND STAKEHOLDERS CHOOSE RICHARDSON AS THE BEST PLACE TO LOCATE, CONTRIBUTE, AND ENGAGE.
AND YOUR FINANCIAL GOAL IS TO EFFECTIVELY, EFFICIENTLY AND TRANSPARENTLY MANAGE CITY RESOURCES WHILE MAINTAINING AND ENHANCING CITY SERVICES.
IF YOU ACHIEVE THOSE GOALS, THE INTENTION IS THAT YOU WOULD THEN ACHIEVE YOUR VISION.
IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE THE GOALS, YOU HAVE A SET OF STRATEGIES.
I INCLUDED THIS SLIDE ON WHERE YOU WERE IN 2023 WHEN WE GOT TOGETHER.
THE ONES IN ITALICS WERE THE ADDITIONAL STRATEGIES THAT YOU GUYS HAD PUT IN.
UH, AND THE REASON I INCLUDED IT IS, IT, IT, WHEN WE DID THE PRIORITIZATION, IT WAS INTERESTING TO ME THAT THOSE NEWER STRATEGIES BUBBLED UP TOWARDS THE TOP IN OUR SESSION WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE STRATEGIES AND WE DID THE PRIORITIZATION.
THERE WERE A FEW THAT WERE CONSIDERED NOW MORE OPERATIONAL THAN STRATEGIC.
SO THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN INGRAINED IN THE WAY THE CITY DOES BUSINESS THAT ARE NO LONGER NECESSARY TO LIST THE STRATEGIES.
IT'S MORE THEY'VE BEEN IMPLEMENTED, IF YOU WILL.
THE ONES, UH, THAT ARE INS, SO THAT WOULD BE 10, 11, 12, 13, AND 14, ARE EITHER MODIFIED OR NEW.
SO IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE THOSE HIGH LEVEL GOALS, YOU'RE, IT'S GONNA BE NECESSARY FOR YOU TO ATTRACT, DEVELOP, AND RETAIN HIGH QUALITY, INNOVATIVE EMPLOYEES, UH, TO CONTINUE TO EXPLORE UNIQUE OPPORTUNITIES TO TRACK AND RETAIN RESIDENTS AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS, AND ALL STAKEHOLDERS, EXCUSE ME, UH, TO PROMOTE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THE BENEFITS, THE WHOLE CITY TO ENSURE YOUR SYSTEMS ARE SAFE AND SECURE, TO MAINTAIN STRONG FUND, MAINTAIN STRONG FUND ANALYSIS AND A BOND RATING WORK TO INCREASE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND INPUT, TO IMPROVE ACCESS, USABILITY, AND USER EXPERIENCE WITH POLICIES, PROCESSES, AND PROCEDURES TO VALUE, PROTECT AND CREATE A POSITIVE RETURN ON CITY RESIDENT AND OTHER STAKEHOLDER INVESTMENTS IN THE CITY.
TO DOCUMENT AND CONTINUOUSLY IMPROVE INNOVATIVE BUSINESS PROCESSES TO PROTECT AND PROMOTE INNOVATIVE INTEGRITY AND VITALITY PROGRAMS TO SUPPORT NEIGHBORHOOD DESIRABILITY AND ENCOURAGE REINVESTMENT OF IT, TO PROMOTE AN ECOSYSTEM OF INNOVATION AND ENTREPRENEURSHIP, WHERE BUSINESSES OF ALL SIZES CAN THRIVE.
TO LEVERAGE OUR REGIONAL LEADERSHIP POSITION TO POSITIVELY IMPACT COUNTY, STATE, AND FEDERAL ISSUES.
TO EXPLORE ALTERNATIVE FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES AND TO EFFECTIVELY NAVIGATE THE REGULATORY ENVIRONMENT.
SO THOSE WERE THE STRATEGIES YOU GUYS FELT WERE NECESSARY TO ACHIEVE THE GOALS AND THE GOALS HELP YOU ACHIEVE YOUR VISION.
WE BROKE IT DOWN EVEN FURTHER, AND WE SPENT A LITTLE MORE TIME THIS YEAR TO LOOK AT, UH, A COMMON FOCUS ON THE TACTICS OR SHORTER TERM INITIATIVES.
UM, SO THE THINGS THAT YOU GUYS CAME UP WITH, UH, THAT YOU WOULD, UH, CONSIDER AREAS OF FOCUS, UH, CONSIDER RECONSTITUTING THE ENVIRONMENTAL ADVISORY COMMISSION.
EXPLORE STRATEGIES TO, TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR STAKEHOLDERS TO PROVIDE INPUT TO THE CITY.
EXPLORE ADDITIONAL STRATEGIES TO SUPPORT AND ENCOURAGE SMALL AND MEDIUM SIZED BUSINESSES.
AND YOU'LL NOTICE THAT A LOT OF THESE SAY EXPLORE OR CONSIDER, BECAUSE THESE ARE A LIST OF THINGS THAT YOU HAVE REQUESTED THE STAFF BRING TO YOU MORE INFORMATION ON.
UM, REVIEW THE CITY'S REGIONAL INVOLVEMENT IN UNHOUSED INITIATIVES, PARTICULARLY AS IT RELATES TO THE UPCOMING WORLD CUP OR WORLD CUP ACTIVITIES.
RECEIVE AND DISCUSS NEXT STEPS OF THE HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT.
REVIEW EXISTING MASTER PLANS AND PRIORITIZE ACTION ITEMS. REVIEW EXISTING SPECIAL REINVESTMENT AREAS AND RECONCILE ANY OUTSTANDING DIFFERENCES AND UNDERSTANDING.
RECONCILE THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN AND EXISTING ZONING.
REVIEW COUNCIL RULES IN ORDER, UH, OF ORDER AND PROCEDURE.
EVALUATE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.
REVIEW THE COMP, COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE.
CONSIDER WHAT WE CAN DO TO INCREASE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
SOLICIT IN INPUT SHORT TERM AND LONG TERM.
EXPLORE HOW WE CAN ENGAGE WITH OUR STATE AND FEDERAL REPRESENTATIVES IN A MORE DIRECT AND INTENTIONAL MANNER.
CONSIDER DISCUSSION AND APPROACH TO NEW TECHNOLOGIES, UH, OR SMART CITIES.
UH, EXPLORE CREATIVE WAYS TO RECOGNIZE AND REWARD CITY EMPLOYEES AND REVIEW THE CITY'S EXISTING DESIGN STANDARDS AND DISCUSS STRATEGIES FOR UPDATING, INVESTIGATE LOW COST, INTENTIONAL WAYS TO IMPROVE THE CITY'S A AESTHETICS.
SO AGAIN, THE TACTICS IS A STEP YOU TAKE TO IMPLEMENT THE STRATEGIES TO ACHIEVE THE GOALS AND ACCOMPLISH THE VISION.
NEXT STEPS A RESOLUTION FORMALLY ADOPTING THE STATEMENT OF GOALS WILL BE ON
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THE 8 25 AGENDA, UH, COMMUNICATION PLAN TO SHARE THE STATEMENT OF GOALS TO IMMEDIATELY FOLLOW.AND THEN A COMPLETE LIST OF PROPOSED TACTICS FOR EACH STRATEGY WILL BE PRESENTED IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? COUNCIL MEMBER, DORIAN.
UM, JUST WANTED TO GO BACK AND, AND GET SOME CLARIFICATION ON UNDER THE KEY STRATEGIES AND CHANGES.
UM, I THINK WE HAD MENTIONED BEFORE, YOU KNOW, NUMBER 12 AND 14 WERE VERY MUCH ALONG THE SAME LINES.
UM, WOULD WE CONSIDER JUST, UH, ALLOWING THAT TO BE INTEGRATED WITH THAT 12 BECAUSE THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH SAYING THE SAME THING.
IT'S LEVERAGING OUR REGIONAL LEADERSHIP POSITION IMPACTING COUNTY, STATE, AND FEDERAL, WHICH IS BASICALLY NAVIGATING THROUGH THE REGULATORY, YOU KNOW, ENVIRONMENT.
UH, I DON'T THINK THOSE ARE THE SAME.
UM, ONE IS TALKING ABOUT SORT OF HOW WE CAN POSITIVELY IMPACT, AND ONE IS HOW WE HAVE TO REACT TO WHAT THE STATE GOVERNMENT IS DOING TO US.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO, UM, KEEP THEM SEPARATE.
DORIAN, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON THAT FOR NOW? OKAY.
I WAS JUST GONNA SAY THE SAME THING.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF IT? THE TACTICS, ANY OF THE ELEMENTS THERE? DID WE, I I WAS TRYING TO LOOK AT IT AGAIN REAL QUICK, BUT I DID NOT SEE I, AND IT'S OKAY IF IT'S NOT CURRENTLY A PART OF, UH, THE TACTICS, BUT DID WE HAVE THE, UH, AESTHETICS ELEMENT? YES.
UH, IT'S ACTUALLY THE FINAL BULLET.
UM, REVIEW THE CITY'S EXISTING DESIGN STANDARDS AND DISCUSS STRATEGIES FOR UPDATING, GOT IT.
INVESTIGATE LOW COST, INTENTIONAL WAYS TO IMPROVE THE CITY'S AESTHETICS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, THOUGHTS? IT LOOKS LIKE A GREAT LIST OF TACTICS.
I KNOW, UH, SOME OF THIS WAS SOME INPUT BY INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS AND WHATNOT AFTER, AFTER THE FACT, WHICH IS GREAT.
IT, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S ALL VERY MUCH, UM, YOU KNOW, A PART OF WHAT WE ALL HAD IN MIND.
SO, UH, OVERALL, I APPRECIATE ALL THE KIND OF EFFORT AND THE, UH, EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE TO KIND OF HELP US GET TO THIS POINT.
AND, UH, IF THERE ARE NO OTHER DISCUSSION POINTS, I THINK WE'LL BE GOOD TO GO.
MR. MR. MAGNER, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE WE SHOULD THANK YOU, RICK.
[6. REVIEW AND DISCUSS CHARTER AMENDMENT AND BOND ELECTION TIMELINES]
ON TO ITEM SIX, REVIEW AND DISCUSS CHARTER AMENDMENT AND BOND ELECTION TIMELINES.MR. MAGNER, UH, THANK YOU MAYOR, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, UH, PER YOUR DIRECTION.
UM, AFTER, UH, OUR, UH, DISCUSSION AT YOUR, UH, BUDGET WORKSHOP, UH, UH, LAST WEEK, UM, WE JUST WANTED TO, UH, UH, PUT THIS ITEM BACK ON THE AGENDA AND LET YOU CONTINUE YOUR DISCUSSION.
UH, AMY, IF YOU FLIP TO THE NEXT CHART HERE, UM, I DID WANT TO JUST, UH, SHOW YOU, UH, SINCE OUR, UM, UH, BUDGET WORKSHOP, UH, ONE CHANGE, UH, HAS OCCURRED, UM, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT, UH, UM, WHEN WE PRESENTED LAST WEEK, RSD HAD NOT YET, UM, UH, CALLED AN ELECTION, A BOND PROGRAM ELECTION FOR NOVEMBER OF 2025.
INITIALLY, THAT WAS BEING CONSIDERED FOR THAT MAY 26TH TIME, UH, PERIOD.
AND SO THAT'S HOW WE HAD IT INDICATED LAST, UH, LAST WEEK.
SO YOU SEE, THAT'S THE ONE CHANGE THERE.
AGAIN, UM, THIS IS SOMETHING WE PROVIDE YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
ONLY, UH, MANY SCHOOLS OF THOUGHT AROUND, UH, THE IDEAL TIME TO HOST AN ELECTION.
UM, SOMETIMES WHEN THERE'S LESS ITEMS ON THE, UH, BALLOT, IT PROVIDES THE, THE, THE COMMUNITY, UM, AND VOTERS WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEND MORE TIME EDUCATING THEMSELVES ON THE DIFFERENT TOPICS.
UH, SOME, SOME BELIEVE WHEN THERE ARE MORE ITEMS, YOU HAVE A HIGHER TURNOUT.
AND SO THAT'S FOR YOU TO DECIDE.
UM, JUST RECALL, UH, THE, UM, ISSUE THAT I WANTED TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE ALL, UH, ON THE SAME PAGE, UH, ABOUT PRIOR TO MOVING FORWARD IS THAT, UM, YOU, WE'VE ALREADY BEGAN IN EARNEST, UH, UH, PREPARING, UH, FOR WHAT WE BELIEVE WILL BE THE NEXT BOND PROGRAM, AND SOMETIME IN 26, THAT'LL BE UP TO YOU TO CALL THAT ELECTION IN MAY OR, OR NOVEMBER IF YOU CHOOSE TO DO SO.
AND SO, I, UH, SIMPLY OFFERED UP FOR CONSIDERATION, UM, UH, KNOWING THAT, UH, YOU ARE CONTEMPLATING THE, UH, UH, CHARTER AMENDMENT ELECTION FOR NOVEMBER OF 25, THAT IF YOU WERE INTERESTED IN, UH, COMBINING THE CHARTER AND THE BOND PROGRAM ELECTIONS, UH, SAY IN MAY OF 2026, WE BELIEVE THAT WOULD, UH, SAVE US ABOUT APPROXIMATELY $175,000 IN FY 26, THIS CURRENT BUDGET YEAR.
UM, IF THAT'S NOT THE CASE AND YOU CHOOSE TO CALL THE CHARTER AMENDMENT ELECTION FOR NOVEMBER, THAT ACTION ITEM IS ON YOUR AGENDA LATER THIS EVENING.
SO THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM AT ALL.
UM, IF YOU, UM, AND, AND THE LAST, UH, PART OF THIS DOES NOT HAVE TO BE DECIDED, UH, TONIGHT, UM, WE, IF YOU, IF YOU DECIDE
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TO CALL A MAY, UH, 2026 BOND PROGRAM ELECTION, UM, JUST NOTED THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE $175,000 CURRENTLY PROGRAMMED IN THE FY 26 BUDGET.UH, SO WE WILL NEED TO ADDRESS THAT, UM, ISSUE.
UH, IF YOU DECIDE TO DO THAT, HOWEVER YOU DECIDE TO CALL THE BOND PROGRAM FOR NOVEMBER OF 20, UM, UH, 26, THAT WOULD BE IN OUR FY 27 PROPOSED BUDGET.
AND SO, AGAIN, UM, OUT OF AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION, NOT TO LET ANYONE THINK THAT WE WEREN'T BEING MINDFUL OF EVERY DOLLAR AT THIS, UH, IMPORTANT TIME IN OUR CITY'S, UH, UM, BUDGET, UH, CONSIDERATION.
WANTED TO JUST OFFER UP THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMBINE THESE, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANNA DO.
IF THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU WANNA DO, WE HAVE A VERY ORDERLY WAY OF PROCEEDING.
UM, AND YOU CAN CALL, UH, THE CHARTER AMENDMENT ELECTION FOR NOVEMBER OF 25, IF YOU WISH TO DO SO LATER THIS EVENING.
COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE, COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE.
IF WE WANNA CALL IT MAY, WHEN DO WE NEED TO ACTUALLY CALL THE ELECTION OR, UH, THAT WOULD BE SOMETIME IN FEBRUARY.
YOU WOULD ACTUALLY CALL A SPECIAL ELECTION FOR THE BOND PROGRAM.
IF, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANTED TO DO, YOU WOULD CALL IT, CALL IT IN, UH, ESSENTIALLY FEBRUARY, MID-FEBRUARY OF 26, YOU WOULD CALL BOTH THE CHARTER AMENDMENT ELECTION AND THE BOND PROGRAM ELECTION FOR MAY OF 26.
WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE YOUR FEELINGS? WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT A DRINK BUDGET RE RETREAT, BUT WHAT ARE YOUR FEELINGS ABOUT, IS THAT RUSHED ON YOUR END? I KNOW THAT WE HAVE SOME, SOME PROJECTS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO AND, YOU KNOW, IT IS WHAT IT IS, BUT I MEAN, THAT FEELS LIKE, ARE WE TRYING TO CRAM IT OR, OR DO YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE? I DON'T THINK FROM A, FROM A DEVELOP BOND PROGRAM DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT, IT WOULD BE RUSHED.
UM, YOU KNOW, IN YEARS PAST, WE'VE WAITED TO START A LOT OF THE PLANNING WORK, UM, UH, FOR BOND PROGRAMS WHEN THE BOND PROGRAM WAS IMMINENT.
UM, BECAUSE WE HAVE DONE SO MANY OF THE MASTER PLAN STUDIES, UM, PARKS, TRANSPORTATION, ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION, UM, AQUATICS, OTHERS, UM, WE, WE, UH, HAVE A, UH, A VERY, A VERY, UH, WELL-DEFINED SET OF PROJECTS WE COULD BRING TO YOU IN EACH OF THE PROPOSITIONS, UH, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
SO I DON'T FEEL LIKE IT WOULD BE RUSHED.
ONE THING I WILL SAY THAT MAY MAYBE IT IS IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER, RECALL, REGARDLESS OF, UM, WHETHER YOU CALL THE ELECTION IN MAY OF 26 OR NOVEMBER OF 26, WE WON'T SELL UNTIL APRIL OF 27.
AND SO IT'S KIND OF A, IT'S KIND OF A, A MOOT POINT IN THAT REGARD.
AND SO CALLING IT MAY OF 26 DOESN'T NECESSARILY HELP US GET ACTIVE ON ANY OF THE NEW PROJECTS ANY SOONER THAN IT WOULD IN NOVEMBER OF 26.
BUT, UM, IT WOULDN'T, IT WOULDN'T, IT WOULDN'T DO ANY HARM EITHER IF YOU, IF YOU DECIDED TO COMBINE THE ELECTIONS, UM, QUITE FRANKLY, THE ONLY ADVANTAGE TO, TO COMBINING THE ELECTIONS IS THE SAVINGS OF APPROXIMATELY 175,000.
IT COULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE, IT COULD BE A LITTLE LESS, BUT WE BELIEVE THAT THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD ESTIMATE.
SO ONE OF THE TACTICS WAS TO REVIEW ALL THOSE MASTER PLANS AND COME UP WITH A PRIORITIZATION.
YOU KNOW, I ASSUME WE'LL HAVE TO, WELL, I ASSUME THAT WE'LL, WE'LL VOTE FOR THAT TO BE A TACTIC AND THAT YOU'LL HAVE TO PUT THAT TOWARDS THE TOP.
IF WE WERE TO AIM FOR MAY, LIKE DO YOU FEEL REALLY CONFIDENT THAT THAT'S SOMETHING YOU CAN PUT TOGETHER QUICKLY? BECAUSE I, I WOULD THINK WE WOULD NEED TO SEE THAT, UH, IN ORDER FOR YOU TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO US.
I, AGAIN, I, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE A PROBLEM TO HAVE THAT READY FOR YOU IN MAY OF 26.
I MEAN, IF IT WAS NOVEMBER OF 26, OBVIOUSLY WE COULD, WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO PRIORITIZE IT.
UM, IF, IF IT IS MAY OF 26, YOU SHOULD EXPECT SOME OF YOUR FALL AND EARLY 20 SE FALL OF 26 AND EARLY 27, I'M SORRY, FALL OF 25 AND EARLY, UH, 26 WORK PLAN TO BE ABOUT THAT.
YEAH, MORE SO THAN SOME OTHER THINGS.
UM, IF IT WAS, UH, NOVEMBER OF 26, THEN WE WOULD, WE COULD SPREAD THAT, UH, WORK PLAN OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WITH THE CAPACITY OF APPROXIMATELY, UH, $200 MILLION, UM, YOU KNOW, PERSONALLY, UNLESS YOU DIRECT ME OTHERWISE, I WOULD BE BRINGING YOU A STREETS PROPOSITION THAT WAS EQUAL, UM, IN CAPACITY TO WHAT WE PRESENTED YOU IN 21.
THAT MEANS IN DOLLARS IT WOULD BE MORE BECAUSE OF THE INFLATIONARY PRECIOUS THAT WE'VE SEEN.
BUT WE'D LIKE TO TRY TO ACCOMPLISH THE SAME NUMBER OF LANE MILES OF BOTH STREETS AND ALLEYS IN THIS NEXT BOND PROGRAM.
UM, RECALL WE, UH, THERE WAS A BIG CUTTING FLOOR OF PROJECTS LEFT IN STREETS AND ALLEYS IN 21.
UM, FAR MORE THAN IN, IN MOST OF THE OTHER PROPOSITIONS, PARTICULARLY THINGS LIKE SIDEWALKS WHERE WE'RE, WE'RE ACTUALLY MAKING GREAT PROGRESS.
UM, DON, IS THERE ANYTHING, I MEAN, I DON'T, TRYING TO MAKE SURE I'M THINKING THROUGH THIS.
UNDER THE CHARTER AMENDMENTS, THERE WASN'T ANYTHING THAT WAS BURNING, IT WASN'T A BURNING PLATFORM THAT WE NEED TO TACKLE THAT, THAT WOULDN'T ALLOW US TO PUSH OFF TILL MAY OF 26.
I DON'T THINK THERE WAS ANYTHING TIME SENSITIVE, UH, THAT, THAT, UH, IN THE PERIOD BETWEEN, SAY, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST WEEK OF NOVEMBER OF FIRST WEEK OF MAY OF, UH, THE FOLLOWING YEAR, IT WOULD, WOULD CHANGE ANYTHING.
I MEAN, AND SO MY, MY THOUGHTS ARE IS I DON'T SEE A NEGATIVE DOING IT IN MAY OF 20 20, 26.
I THINK WE JUST HAVE TO BE, YOU KNOW, READY TO WORK THROUGH IT.
SO WE HAVE THE BOND PROGRAM READY TO GO BY MAY OF 2026 AND SAVING $175,000 IN A YEAR WHERE WE NEED
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TO LOOK FOR, YOU KNOW, EVERY PENNY I THINK IS VERY, VERY PRUDENT.SO I WOULD, I WOULD DEFINITELY SUPPORT DOING THE COMBINED ELECTION IN 2026 AND SAVING THE $175,000.
THANKS, COUNCIL MEMBER BARRIOS.
UM, JOHN, WHEN RSD PUTS THAT ON THE BALLOT, I REMEMBER SEEING SOMETHING EARLIER THAT IT WAS A VERY LARGE BONDER, THEY'RE GOING AFTER A REALLY BIG ONE THIS TIME.
DOES THAT GO ON AS ONE ITEM? OR DOES THAT BREAK DOWN? DO YOU, UH, EACH PROPOSITION WOULD BE A SEPARATE.
SO MY, MY THOUGHTS ON THAT IS FROM WHEN WE FIRST STARTED TALKING ABOUT THIS, UH, CHARTER REVIEW, WHEN WE POINTED THE COMMISSION, WHEN THIS WHOLE PROCESS, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN TALKS AROUND DOING IT, UH, NOVEMBER.
AND SO I THINK BECAUSE OF THE WORK, BECAUSE IT'S BEEN PART OF THE PLAN, BECAUSE IT'S BEEN TALKED ABOUT THE ENTIRE TIME, WHILE 176 IS A LOT OF MONEY, IT'S DEFINITELY A LOT OF MONEY ON MY PERSONAL, UM, YOU KNOW, IF I WERE PAYING FOR IT PERSONALLY.
BUT 176 OUT OF A 400 PLUS MILLION DOLLARS BUDGET IS, IS A SMALL PORTION.
AND I REALLY THINK THAT BECAUSE OF THE IMPORTANCE OF IT, IT NEEDS TO STAND ON ITS OWN AND BE DONE ACCORDING TO WHAT WE HAD DISCUSSED AND PLANNED.
NOW, AS FAR AS THE BOND, I'D BE OPEN AND PUSHING THAT BACK TO GIVE STAFF TIME.
I THINK IF WE PUSH IT BACK, IT MIGHT GIVE YOU TIME TO KIND OF SEE WHAT THE ECONOMY IS DOING, MAYBE PRICING BE A LITTLE BIT MORE ACCURATE.
THOSE NUMBERS BE A LITTLE ACCURATE, MORE ACCURATE SINCE IT'S ON THE TAIL END, UM, AND CLOSER TO WHEN THE WORK'S ACTUALLY GETTING DONE.
SO I WOULD BE OPEN TO PUSHING THAT BACK INSTEAD OF RUSHING TO A MAY.
BUT I REALLY THINK THAT FOR THE, FOR THE SAKE OF, UM, EVERYTHING WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING FOR A WHILE IN REGARDS TO THE CHARTER REVIEW, WE SHOULD GO AHEAD AND HAVE THAT, UM, AS PLANNED AND NOT PUSH IT BACK TO CLARIFICATION ON THAT.
SO IF WE WERE TO FOLLOW COUNCIL MEMBER BARRIOS, THEN WE'RE GONNA ACTUALLY SPEND $350,000.
IS THAT, IS THAT NO, 'CAUSE WE HAD, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING UP THERE? 'CAUSE YOU SAID IF IT, IF THE, I'M CONFUSED ON, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ONLY THING THAT'S NOT MAKE, LET ME MAKE SURE I GOT IT RIGHT.
THE ONLY THING THAT'S NOT BUDGETED IS TWO ELECTIONS IN THIS BUDGET CYCLE.
SO, SO IF YOU HAVE A, AN ELECTION IN MAY FOR THE CHARTER AMENDMENTS, THAT'S, THAT'S ADDRESSED, UH, WHAT'S NOT ADDRESSED IS THE BOND PROGRAM.
AND IF YOU HAVE IT IN FY 26, WE'LL HAVE TO MAKE A MID-YEAR ADJUSTMENT.
IF YOU HAVE IT IN, UM, MAY OF 26, WE'LL DO A MID-YEAR FFY 26 ADJUSTMENT.
IF YOU HAVE IT IN NOVEMBER OF 26, WE WILL PLAN FOR IT IN OUR FY 27 BUDGET.
SO IT'S JUST SAVING THE, THE, THE ONE ELECTION, ESSENTIALLY, WE'RE GONNA GO OUT AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE AN ELECTION FOR FOUR TO FIVE PROPOSITIONS.
SO THERE'LL BE FOUR OR FIVE QUESTIONS ON A BALLOT THAT'S, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PAY OUR SHARE OF THE ELECTION.
UM, IF THAT'S IN MAY, YOU SAW IT'S GONNA BE OUR, WE'RE GONNA PAY A BIG SHARE OF, OF THAT PROBABLY.
'CAUSE THERE MAY BE ONLY RSD LS.
WE'LL BE THE ONLY OTHER ENTITY ON THE BALLOT IT LOOKS LIKE.
UM, IF WE DO IT IN NOVEMBER, THERE MAY BE MORE, BUT, UM, AMY'S ESTIMATED AT ABOUT $175,000 SAVINGS.
WELL, I MEAN, IF THERE IS NO ISSUE THAT IF WE DELAY THIS, UH, CHARTER ELECTION FEW MONTHS, THEN I WOULD WAIT.
I WOULD SUPPORT WAITING AND COMBINE THOSE ELECTION TOGETHER.
UH, IT'S NOT MY MONEY, IT'S PUBLIC MONEY.
SO EVERY SINGLE DOLLAR IF I CAN SAVE, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S IMPORTANT.
UH, BUT I WOULD NOT HESITATE IF IT WAS MY MONEY EXPERIMENTING ON MY HOME PROJECT.
AND I DO THAT VERY OFTEN, BUT I DO CARE ABOUT PUBLIC MONEY, SO THIS IS IMPORTANT.
AND IF WE, IF THERE IS NO, UH, RESTRICTION THAT DELAYING FEW MONTHS WOULD NOT CAUSE ANY PROBLEM, I WOULD COMBINE THOSE TWO ELECTION TOGETHER.
AND, UH, BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS IMPORTANT, THE BOND BOND ELECTION IS IMPORTANT, CHARTER ELECTION IS IMPORTANT, AND COMING UP WITH THE BUDGET FOR THE BOND ELECTION BOND AMOUNT, I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE HUGE ISSUE BECAUSE I KNOW HOW THE ENGINEERING ESTIMATE WORKS.
UH, I THINK THE PRICE, NO OF EVERYTHING IS PRETTY MUCH STABLE NOW, EVEN THOUGH TARIFFS COMING IN, I DON'T THINK THAT'S GONNA CAUSE HUGE PROBLEM.
WE ALREADY KNOW HOW THINGS GONNA MOVE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE PLENTY OF TIME TO ADJUST THE BUDGET FOR THE BOND.
SO I WOULD SUPPORT COMBINING TOGETHER.
UM, I SEE A COUPLE OTHER LIGHTS ON, BUT I JUST WANNA WEIGH IN, UH, UH, BRIEFLY AND THEN JUMP ONTO THE NEXT TWO, UH, THOUGHTS.
UM, I, I WORRY A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, TRYING TO RUSH AND GET THE BOND READY BY MAY, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S NOT, IF WE'RE NOT GONNA DO ANYTHING UNTIL 2027
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ANYWAY.UH, AND SO FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, FOR FRANKLY, I WOULD PREFER A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME FOR US TO BE ABLE TO REVIEW THE DIFFERENT STUDIES THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, BE ABLE TO DO IT IN KIND OF A NON RUSHED WAY, GET AS MUCH INPUT AS WE POSSIBLY CAN SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A BOND ELECTION THAT, YOU KNOW, CAN BE FULLY UNDERSTOOD AND COMFORTABLE FOR EVERYBODY.
UM, AND, AND TO ME THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE FOR IT TO BE NOVEMBER, UH, OF, OF NEXT YEAR, UH, WHICH JUST GIVES US THAT, THAT MUCH MORE TIME, ESPECIALLY IF ASIDE FROM STREETS AND ALLEYS, WHICH I DON'T THINK ARE GONNA BE CONTROVERSIAL, UM, I SUSPECT THERE'S GOING TO BE QUITE A BIT OF, UH, VARIED THOUGHTS ON ALL THE REST OF WHAT'S IN THE, USUALLY THESE BOTS.
AND SO I'D, I'D LOVE TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE JUST GOT PLENTY OF TIME.
UH, IF WE SAID WE WANTED TO DO 'EM BOTH IN MAY, AND THEN ALL THE SUDDEN THE BOND DISCUSSIONS STARTED TO EXPAND OR STARTED TO REQUIRE A LITTLE BIT MORE DISCUSSION, THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, ARE WE GONNA PUSH THE CHARTER OUT ONE MORE TIME AND GO TO THE NEXT NOVEMBER? SO I JUST, I'M A LITTLE UNCOMFORTABLE WITH CREATING THAT CONSTRAINT, UH, WHEN IT'S NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT NECESSARY FROM MY PERSPECTIVE.
SO, COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE, I THINK YOU WERE UP NEXT.
UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE HAD THE BUDGET RETREAT, I WAS SORT OF IN THAT FRAME OF THOUGHT ABOUT WANTING TO DO IT IN NOVEMBER.
UM, YOU KNOW, I, I TRUST THE STAFF AND THEY SAY THAT THEY COULD HAVE IT DONE, NOT BE RUSHED BY MAY.
UM, I, I THINK THAT THE, LOOKING AT THIS, THE BALLOT'S REALLY CROWDED IN NOVEMBER OF 26.
AND THAT WORRIES ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SORT OF, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT WE'LL BE LOOKING AT AND VOTING ON.
UH, IT'S VERY PARTISAN IN NATURE AND, YOU KNOW, WE ARE USUALLY PRETTY INTENTIONAL ABOUT TRYING TO AVOID THAT.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, TO YOUR LATTER POINT ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS IF WE GET CLOSER AND WE FEEL LIKE WE NEED MORE DIALOGUE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE UNTIL FEBRUARY TO CALL THE ELECTION.
SO IF IT'S LOOKING LIKE WE'RE GONNA NEED MORE TIME, WE COULD DO THAT.
UM, WE COULD GO AHEAD AND HAVE THE CHARTER ELECTION IN MAY, AND THEN BUDGET FOR, UM, A BOND ELECTION IN NOVEMBER.
UM, SO THE MORE THAT I'VE SORT OF SAT WITH THIS OVER THE LAST WEEK AND THEN, AND LISTENING TO STAFF'S ASSURANCES THAT THEY FEEL COMFORTABLE IN THE TIMELINE, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M LEAVING LEANING WITH COUNCILMAN HUTCHIN RIDER ON THIS.
I THINK THAT WE, WE SAVED THE MONEY AND, AND COUNCILMAN SEL AND DO BOTH IN MAY.
UM, THE BALLOT'S JUST NOT NEARLY AS CROWDED, UH, IN MAY AS IT IS IN NOVEMBER.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE I AM COUNCIL MEMBER BARRIOS.
HEY, DON, WHY IT WASN'T, DID WE JUST MISS BUDGET? DID WE NOT PUT IT IN, I THOUGHT THIS WAS PART OF THE TALKS THE ENTIRE TIME FROM WHEN DAY ONE ABOUT IT BEING THE CHARTER.
UM, I'M, IT'S NOT BUDGETED INTO THIS BUDGET FOR WHAT, WHAT IS NOT BUDGETED? THE CHARTER, THE CHARTER TO BE PART OF THIS NOVEMBER ELECTION.
THE CHARTER AMENDMENT ELECTION FOR NOVEMBER IS, ISN'T THE PROPOSED FY 26 BUDGET? WHAT I WAS BRINGING YOU IS THE OPPORTUNITY, IF THERE WAS GOING TO BE A BOND PROGRAM ONE ELECTION LATER, JUST WANTED TO AT LEAST OFFER UP THE OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO CONSIDER THE COST EFFICIENCIES AROUND COMBINING THEM.
SO YOU'RE RIGHT, THERE'S THE CHARTER AMENDMENT ELECTION FOR NOVEMBER, IF YOU CHOOSE TO MOVE FORWARD IS IN THE FY 26 BUDGET.
I, THE OTHER THING, THE ONLY OTHER THING I CAN THINK OF THAT I DIDN'T MENTION EARLIER, BECAUSE OF THE, THE, UH, BOND, I THINK IT'S GONNA BE A VERY, ALTHOUGH OUR SCHOOL DISTRICTS TEND TO PASS BONDS A LOT EASIER.
I MEAN, CUTE KIDS ARE HARD TO SAY NO TO.
RIGHT? EVEN, EVEN VERY LARGE BONDS.
UM, ALTHOUGH A FEW MORE AND MORE HAVE BEEN DENIED THROUGHOUT TEXAS, GENERALLY SPEAKING THEIR PROOF, BUT I THINK THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF TALK AROUND THERE AND I'M JUST WONDERING IF PUSH IT BACK ALSO MIGHT ADD A LITTLE EXTRA STRATEGY.
UM, FOR ME, I THINK CONSIDERING THAT, CONSIDERING, ALTHOUGH IT DOES SAVE US, UH, A DECENT AMOUNT OF MONEY, UM, I THINK BEHIND THE SPIRIT OF IT, IT WAS PLANNED, WE SHOULD STILL KEEP THIS AND THEN PUSH IT BACK TO THE FALL TO BUY STAFF TIME TO, UH, ALLOW SOME TIME BETWEEN A, WHAT MIGHT BE A CONTENTIOUS RSD BOND AND TO ALLOW US AS A COUNCIL WORK THROUGH SOME ISSUES.
I THINK THERE'S JUST MORE, UH, I GUESS BENEFITS OF HOLDING OFF FOR THE BOND ELECTION TILL NEXT FALL, UM, IN 26.
AND THEN I THINK KEEPING CHARTER ELECTION FOR THIS NOVEMBER IS MY FINAL THOUGHTS.
THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER, DORIAN.
YOU KNOW, I, MY ORIGINAL THOUGHT TOO WAS TO, TO KEEP THE ELECTION IN NOVEMBER, BUT AGAIN, TO, UH, COUNCILMAN CHU'S, UH, POINT, YOU KNOW, $175,000 IS A LOT OF MONEY.
IT'S NOT MY MONEY'S, IT'S TAXPAYER'S MONEY.
AND I'M, I WOULD BE IN SUPPORT OF MOVING THAT TO MAY, UH, FOR BOTH ELECTIONS.
UH, IN THE EVENT THAT THERE WAS POTENTIAL CONFLICT OR, OR, UH, AN AREA THAT WE FELT LIKE WE NEEDED TO DISCUSS, WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO PUSH IT FURTHER OR AT LEAST, AT LEAST ONE OF THE PORTIONS.
SO I THINK AT THIS POINT RIGHT NOW, I'M GONNA SUPPORT, UH, MOVING BOTH OF THOSE TO MAY THAT WILL ENCOURAGE US TO
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SAVE 175,000.I JUST WANNA SAY ALSO TOO, EVERYTHING IN THE CHARTER, UM, JUST WANNA CLARIFY THIS, EVERYTHING IN THE CHARTER THAT, THAT, THAT WE'VE PRETTY MUCH AGREED ON, UH, WILL NOT BE IMPLEMENTED UNTIL AFTER THAT ELECTION, CORRECT? YES, SIR.
AND ALL THE, ALL IF, UH, EVERY, OBVIOUSLY EVERY, UM, PROPOSITION WOULD BE A SEPARATE, UM, QUESTION, BUT ALL THE CHANGES, UH, THAT ARE RECOMMENDED AND APPROVED WOULD, WOULD, WOULD TAKE PLACE AFTER THE ELECTION OKAY.
DIRECTLY AFTER THE ELECTION VERSUS THE NEXT BUDGET.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, COUNCIL PAY IS GONNA BE AN ADJUSTMENT.
UH, THAT WOULD IMPACT THIS BUDGET HYPOTHETICALLY, IF WE OKAY.
YES, WE IT WOULD, IT WOULD IMPACT.
SO, SO THERE BUDGET, SO WOULD BE, THERE WOULD BE A SEVERAL MONTHS DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, BETWEEN WHEN WE IMPLEMENTED, WHEN SOMETHING LIKE THAT WOULD TAKE PLACE? THAT'S CORRECT.
I'M NOT SAYING IT WOULD HURT THE BUDGET, RIGHT.
I'M JUST SAYING IT, IT WOULD BE IMPLEMENTED IMMEDIATELY.
IS THAT RIGHT OR IS THAT WRONG? THE, THE THINGS LIKE COUNCIL PAY, FOR EXAMPLE? YEAH.
IT WOULD BE AS SOON AS, AS SOON AS IF THAT PROPOSITION PASSED AS SOON AS WE, AS SOON AS YOU CERTIFIED THE, THE ELECTION IT WOULD GO INTO, IT WOULD GO INTO, UH, SO IT GOES INTO EFFECT WITH THE 30 DAYS, AND WE DON'T, IT'S NOT THREE.
YOU, YOU HAVE TO, I'M JUST MAKING SURE IT'S CLEAR.
SO EVERYONE LISTENING AND YEAH.
WATCHING TONIGHT UNDERSTANDS THAT IF WE DO PUSH THESE OUT TO ME, THEN IF, IF THAT PASSES, THEN WE JUST KNOW THAT THOSE ARE NOT, THESE THINGS ARE NOT GONNA BE IMPLEMENTED TILL AFTER THE ELECTION.
ONCE YOU SORT JUST WANNA MAKE SURE.
ONCE YOU CERTIFY THE RESULTS OF THE ELECTION, THEN THEY BECOME EFFECTIVE.
I'M GONNA PICK COUNCIL MEMBER CORCORAN, 'CAUSE HE HASN'T HAD ANY COMMENTS YET.
UH, AND HE JUST PUT HIS LIGHT ON, SO GO AHEAD.
UM, NOW, I MEAN, I, I AGREE WITH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER SHAMS, MAYOR, PROTO HU RIDER AND COUNCIL MEMBER GORIAN.
I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.
ALRIGHT, COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE.
YEAH, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, IF THERE, IF THERE'S A CONCERN ABOUT SORT OF BUDGET IMPACT TO MOVING IT TO MAY COUNCIL PAY, WHICH IS NOT THE, THE HEAVIEST LINE ITEM BY ANY MEANS, COULD WE CHANGE THAT PROPOSITION TO BE EFFECTIVE AS A, AS OF THE 27 BUDGET SO THAT WE CAN PLAN FOR IT? OR WOULD THAT BE AN OPTION? UM, WE COULD CHANGE THE PROPOSITION SO THAT IT TOOK EFFECT OCTOBER 1ST, 2026.
I MEAN, I DUNNO IF THAT'S A HUGE CONCERN WITH YOU FOR, FOR YOU AT THE END OF THE DAY, BUT JUST NO, NO.
IF THAT IS A REAL CONCERN OF ANYONE HERE.
YEAH, I'M SORRY WE HAVE THAT OPTION.
MY POINT WASN'T THAT IT WAS GONNA IMPACT THE BUDGET AS MUCH AS I WAS JUST SAYING THAT THINGS LIKE THAT WOULD BE IMPLEMENTED AFTER THE ELECTION, WHICH WOULD BE THE ONLY DELAYED ELEMENT.
COUNCIL MEMBER, BARRIOS, UM, DON WERE THERE, I REMEMBER VAGUELY HAVING SOME CONVERSATIONS AROUND SOME OF THE WORDING CHANGES IN THE CHARTER TO COMPLY WITH, UM, SOME OF THE LAW.
AND IS ANYTHING, IF WE PUSH THIS BACK, WILL IT IN A ANY WAY MAKE THIS, UM, NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH SOME OF THE LEGAL CHANGES THAT TAKE PLACE? IS THAT GONNA, ARE WE GONNA RUN INTO ANY PROBLEMS ON THE LEGAL SIDE FOR PUSHING THAT BACK? RIGHT, RIGHT.
UH, WE, WE CONSULTED WITH PETE SMITH AND HE DID NOT HAVE ANY CONCERN WITH THAT.
ULTIMATELY, STATE LAW IS GONNA TRUMP, UH, LOCALLY AND SO WE'RE GONNA FOLLOW STATE LAW, SO WE WON'T PUT OURSELVES IN A POSITION OKAY.
THAT, THAT WOULD BE A CONFLICT.
UM, SO I THINK WE'VE DISCUSSED IT QUITE A BIT.
WOULD YOU HAVE A MOTION BY CHANCE MAYOR? YES.
WELL, HERE, I THINK, UM, MAYOR, YOU WANNA OFFICIALLY YEAH, TAKE A, A HEAD COUNT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE A, A CONSENSUS THAT WE, THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THE ELECTION, UH, TO MAY OF 2026.
AND THEN I THINK YOU JUST TAKE NO ACTION ON 11.
UH, SO WE WOULD NOT TAKE ANY ACTION ON 11, IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? RIGHT IN IN THAT CASE? MM-HMM.
SO WE WOULD MAKE A, SO WOULD I MAKE A CONSENSUS MOTION OR NO, THERE'S NO MOTION AT ALL.
UH, I, I, I THINK WE JUST PROBABLY, WE COULD PROBABLY HEAD NOD, BUT, UH, I CAN SAY I'M IN FAVOR OF DOING THE CHARTER IN THIS NOVEMBER, UH, AND THEN DOING THE, UM, UH, THE, THE BOND THE FOLLOWING NOVEMBER, JUST FOR THE REASONS I'VE ALREADY STATED, BUT I THINK MOST OTHERS ARE, UH, INCLINED TO MOVE THE OTHER DIRECTION.
IS THAT RIGHT? I'M WITH YOU, MAYOR.
I THINK WE NEED TO STOP VOTING.
SO, YEAH, I THINK OH, FAIR ENOUGH.
YEAH, YOU HAVE A CONSENSUS, I THINK, DON, FROM LISTENING TO EVERYONE.
[7. REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE RICHARDSON INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PROGRAM]
MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, REVIEW AND DISCUSS RICHARDSON INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PROGRAM, MR. MAGNER.MAYOR AND COUNCIL, UH, DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, CHRIS SHACKLET, UH, IS HERE TONIGHT.
UH, WE, UH, HAVE A COUPLE REALLY INTERESTING, UH, ITEMS, UH, COMING UP ON OUR INTERNATIONAL FRONT.
UH, CHRIS HAS, UH, DONE A REALLY NICE JOB OVER THE LAST YEAR OF HOSTING MANY, UH, DELEGATIONS.
HE'LL COVER THAT A LITTLE BIT.
BUT, UH, JUST THIS WEEK, UH, WE HAVE A, A REALLY, UH, NEAT OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE, UH, PLAY, TAKE PART IN THE, UH, TAIWAN EXPO 2025, WHICH WILL BE HELD AT THE, UH, KATE BAILEY HUTCHINSON
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CENTER.UH, AND THEN ON FRIDAY AFTERNOON, UH, WE'LL BE HOSTING A DELEGATION, UH, IN TOWN, UH, FROM FROM TAIWAN AT OUR OWN IQ HQ, UH, FRIDAY AFTERNOON TO, UH, TELL HIM A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE LOCALLY AND HOW WE PARTNER WITH UT DALLAS.
AND, UH, SO I'M GONNA, UH, LET CHRIS RUN THROUGH A COUPLE OF THESE SLIDES, AND THEN AT THE VERY END, UM, UM, LOOK FOR YOUR CONSENSUS COUNSEL, UH, AGAIN, UM, THAT, UH, YOU'D LIKE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENTER INTO A FRIENDSHIP CITY RELATIONSHIP WITH, UH, A COUPLE OF CITIES, UH, IN TAIWAN.
AND THEN WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT AN UPCOMING TRIP.
SO, CHRIS, THANKS FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER, AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU FOR FURTHER BRIEFING.
UM, PLEASE BE HERE TONIGHT TO SHARE WITH YOU SOME OF THE EFFORTS THAT, UH, OUR STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING ON.
AND THEN AGAIN, AS DON MENTIONED, SOME OF THE, UH, UPCOMING INTERNATIONAL RELATED OPPORTUNITIES.
UH, AGAIN, TONIGHT WE'LL DISCUSS, UH, SOME INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS SERVICES THAT, UH, WE ARE PROVIDING, AS WELL AS SOME OTHER PARTNERSHIPS AND DELEGATIONS THAT WE'VE, UH, THAT WE'VE, UH, BEEN HOSTING AND ENTERED INTO OVER THE LAST YEAR.
AND THEN, UH, FINISH UP, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE TAIWAN EXPO AND SOME FRIENDSHIP CITY OPPORTUNITIES, UM, WITH SOME OF THE INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS SERVICES, UH, THAT WE'VE BEEN OFFERING.
UH, ALTHOUGH WE HAVE, WE'RE FOCUSING BOTH ON DOMESTIC AND INTERNATIONAL, UH, BUSINESS ATTRACTION AND RETENTION AND EXPANSION.
UH, WE DO HAVE SOME SERVICES THAT ARE MORE, UH, SPECIFIC TO INTERNATIONAL COMPANIES, UM, THAT, UH, WE AS THE CITY ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE, OR IN MANY CASES, UH, WORK WITH PARTNERS, UH, IN THE AREA TO HELP PROVIDE THOSE.
AND THAT RANGES ANYWHERE FROM, UH, YOU KNOW, VISA AND GREEN WORK, UH, GREEN CARD PAPERWORK ASSISTANCE, UH, BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT AND MANAGEMENT ASSISTANCE, UH, FINANCE AND LEGAL ASSISTANCE, UH, REAL ESTATE AND RELOCATION INFORMATION.
THAT'S OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S ONE THAT IS THE CITY WE'RE, UH, VERY ACTIVE IN.
AND WORKING WITH COMPANIES, FINDING OUT WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE, REAL ESTATE NEEDS ARE, AND WORKING TO PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION AS WELL AS LOGISTIC SERVICES AND STAFFING SERVICES.
AND AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED, UH, THROUGH OUR VARIOUS PARTNERSHIPS, UH, WITH VARIOUS ORGANIZATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY, WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE HELP, UH, PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES AND BE THE CONNECTOR TO THOSE SERVICES.
UM, GETTING INTO, UH, A PARTNERSHIP THAT WE BEGAN JUST ABOUT A YEAR AGO, UH, LAST AUGUST, YOU MAY REMEMBER THAT, UM, WE WERE HERE TALKING ABOUT, UH, AN UPCOMING PARTNERSHIP WITH STARTUP RUNWAY, UH, AND THEN THEY LAUNCHED IN THE IQHQ, UH, LAST SEPTEMBER.
AGAIN, UH, STARTUP RUNWAY SUPPORTS, UH, INTERNATIONAL COMPANIES LOOKING TO ENTER THE US MARKET.
UH, THEY PROVIDE INTER ADMINISTRATIVE MARKETING, UH, AND OTHER SUPPORT SERVICES AND HELP FACILITATE MARKET ACCESS AND COLLABORATE WITH, UM, HUNDREDS OF FIRMS INTERNATIONALLY THAT ARE ALIGNED WITH THE CITY'S TARGET INDUSTRIES TO ULTIMATELY BRING THOSE BUSINESSES INTO THE IQ TO HELP, UH, HELP THOSE BUSINESSES, UH, GROW THEIR CUSTOMER BASE HERE IN THE US AND ULTIMATELY RELOCATE, UH, OUTSIDE OF THE IQ HQ, UH, UH, HOPEFULLY WITHIN THE CITY OF RICHARDSON.
UH, AND AGAIN, UH, THROUGH THAT PARTNERSHIP, THERE'S A VARIETY OF SERVICES THEY PROVIDE, UH, INCLUDING, UH, HOSTING EVENTS AT THE IQHQ, PARTICIPATING IN CITY HELD EVENTS, UH, AT THE IQHQ.
UH, ALSO, THEY'RE HELPING TO PROMOTE CITY EVENTS THROUGH THEIR SOCIAL CHANNELS.
AND AS WELL AS, UH, WHAT WE'VE STARTED WORKING ON THEM WITH IS CONNECTING THEM WITH NOT ONLY CITY DEPARTMENTS, BUT ALSO, UH, LOCAL COMPANIES TO, UH, LOOK AT SORT OF A REVERSE PITCH SESSION, UH, SCENARIO WHERE THEY CAN PR WORK WITH COMPANIES THAT MAY HAVE A PROBLEM STATEMENT THAT THEY CAN THEN CONNECT WITH STARTUPS IN THEIR PORTFOLIO THAT THEY, UH, COULD HELP TO, UH, ADDRESS THOSE PROBLEM STATEMENTS FOR THOSE CORPORATIONS.
UM, A BRIEF UPDATE ON, UH, THE, UH, SECOND, UH, TRIP WITH STARTUP RUNWAY, UH, IN INDIA.
THAT WAS IN FEBRUARY OF 2025, UH, OVER ABOUT 11 OR 12 DAYS THERE, UH, WE VISITED, UH, SIX CITIES AND AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, HAD INTERACTIONS WITH HUNDREDS OF COMPANIES.
AGAIN, MET WITH, UH, SEVERAL UNIVERSITY OFFICIALS, GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS, AS WELL AS MANY OF THE, UH, INCUBATORS IN THAT AREA, UNIVERSITIES.
AND THEN, UH, WHILE THEY WERE THERE, STARTUP RUNAWAY WAS ALSO ACTUALLY ABLE TO SIGN, UH, SEVERAL, UH, MOUS WITH VARIOUS UNIVERSITIES AND OTHER GOVERNMENTS THERE, UH, TO AGAIN, STRENGTHEN THEIR RELATIONSHIP, UH, WITH VARIOUS STATES AND UNIVERSITIES WITHIN INDIA TO, UH, HELP SORT OF PROMOTE THE GOAL OF THE WORK THEY'RE DOING HERE IN RICHARDSON.
UM, AS DON MENTIONED, WE'VE, UH, HOSTED SEVERAL INTERNATIONAL DELEGATIONS OVER THE LAST, UH, SEVERAL MONTHS.
UH, I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL OF THESE, BUT, UH, THESE ARE A VARIETY OF EDUCATIONAL GOVERNMENT AND OR BUSINESS DELEGATIONS THAT HAVE, UH, COME TO THE IQHQ.
MANY TIMES WHEN WE MEET WITH THEM, WE'RE PROVIDING THEM AN UPDATE ON WHAT WE'RE DOING AS A CITY, WHAT WE'RE DOING IN OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, AND MANY TIMES BRING IN OUR PARTNERS WITHIN THE IQHQ, WHETHER THAT BE REPRESENTATIVES FROM UT DALLAS OR STARTUP RUNWAY, OR, UH, THE 5G LAB TO TALK ABOUT THE WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING IN THE IQHQ.
AND AGAIN, TO REALLY PROMOTE THAT ECOSYSTEM OF INNOVATION AND ENTREPRENEURSHIP THAT'S BEING, UH, CULTIVATED WITHIN THE IQHQ AND, AND, AND THROUGHOUT THE IQ AREA.
UH, WE DO HAVE A COUPLE UPCOMING OPPORTUNITIES, INTERNATIONAL RELATED OPPORTUNITIES, UH, LATER THIS WEEK.
UH, AS ALREADY MENTIONED, THE TAIWAN EXPO 2025 WILL BE HOSTED IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.
UH, AND THIS IS A CELEBRATION OF
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A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN TAIWAN, UH, AND THE UNITED STATES.OR AGAIN, THERE WILL BE A FOCUS ON INNOVATION AND ECONOMIC RESILIENCE, AS WELL AS STRATEGIC COLLABORATION.
AT THIS, UH, AT THIS THREE DAY EVENT, UH, THERE WILL BE OVER 180 COMPANIES, UH, AS WELL AS OTHER FEDERAL AND STATE REPS THAT WILL BE ATTENDING, UH, THE EXPO.
AND THEY HAVE, UH, INVITED, UH, THE CITY COUNCIL TO ATTEND, UH, MULTIPLE EVENTS THAT THEY'RE HOLDING THERE ON THURSDAY, AUGUST 14TH.
THAT INCLUDES, UM, THEIR OPENING CEREMONIES AS WELL AS, UH, A US SUPPLY CHAIN COOPERATION FORUM THAT THEY'LL BE HOSTING, HAVING VARIOUS REPRESENT STATE, UH, AND FEDERAL REPRESENTATIVES, AS WELL AS OTHER COMPANY REPRESENTATIVES FROM TAIWAN SPEAKING ON THOSE PANELS.
AND THE FOLLOWING DAY AFTER THAT, THEY WILL BE HOSTING A, UH, DE WE'LL BE HOSTING A DELEGATION AT THE IQHQ FACILITY.
A SMALL DELEGATION OF BUSINESS OWNERS, AS WELL AS MEDIA MEMBERS FROM TAIWAN WILL BE, UH, TOURING, UH, VARIOUS AREAS THAT DAY, UM, INCLUDING THE NEW, UM, THE NEW, UH, WAFER FAB FACILITIES IN SHERMAN.
AND THEN COMING BACK DOWN THROUGH RICHARDSON THAT AFTERNOON AND REALLY WANTING TO COME HEAR WHAT WE'RE DOING IN THE IQ HQ AS WELL AS THE IQ IN THE CITY AT LARGE, UH, TO HIGHLIGHT AND, UH, ALSO HIGHLIGHT OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH TAIWAN, UH, TO PROMOTE THE, UH, CITY'S BUSINESS ENVIRONMENT AS WELL AS THOSE SOFT LANDING SERVICES, UM, THAT THE CITY OF RICHARDSON, UH, ALONG WITH THEIR PARTNERS CAN HELP TO PROVIDE TO INTERNATIONAL COMPANIES LOOKING TO LOCATE TO RICHARDSON, AS WELL AS, UH, SHOWCASING OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH, WITH UT DALLAS, UH, DURING THAT TIME.
UH, AND THE LAST OPPORTUNITY I WANTED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT WAS A FRIENDSHIP CITY PROGRAM.
UH, THIS IS A, A PROGRAM WHERE, UH, WE CAN, UH, ANOTHER WAY THAT WE CAN STRENGTHEN INTERNATIONAL TIES.
UH, WE CAN ENCOURAGE COOPERATION, EDUCATION AND CULTURAL EXCHANGE WITH OTHER, UH, WITH OTHER, UH, COUNTRIES.
AND THIS IS LESS FORMAL THAN, UH, SISTER CITY PARTNERSHIPS.
SO THESE CAN TYPICALLY BE, UH, BE HANDLED THROUGH A, UH, SIGNING OF A, UH, MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING.
AND IT ALSO OFFERS US FLEXIBILITY FOR CHANGING OUR PRIORITIES AND RESOURCES.
AND DEPENDING ON THE NATURE OF THAT RELATIONSHIP AND HOW IT'S GOING, IT CAN, UH, ULTIMATELY LEAD TO A MORE FORMAL SISTER CITY, UH, ARRANGEMENT IN THE FUTURE.
IF THAT'S SOMETHING THE CITY DESIRED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH, UH, TWO OF THOSE CITIES THAT WE'VE BEEN SPEAKING WITH REALLY SINCE, UH, 2024, UM, THROUGH DIFFERENT, UH, REPRESENTATIVES, UH, UH, TAIWANESE REPRESENTATIVES, NEW TAIPEI CITY AND KEUNG CITY, TAIWAN HAD BEEN BROUGHT TO THE CITY AS POTENTIAL FRIENDSHIP CITY OPPORTUNITIES.
UM, DURING THAT TIME, WE'VE, WE'VE MET WITH REPRESENTATIVES AND DISCUSSED, UH, YOU KNOW, THE TYPES OF INFORMATION THAT WOULD BE PROVIDED IN AN MOU IF WE WERE TO ENTER INTO ONE AS PART OF A VETTING PROCESS OF THOSE TWO, UH, THOSE TWO CITIES.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAD TALKED WITH NEW TAIPEI CITY ABOUT WHEN THEY MIGHT DO FORMAL SIGNINGS, AND THAT HAD BEEN PUSHED BASED ON, UM, SOME, SOME, UH, ELECTIONS THAT WERE GOING ON IN AT THAT TIME THERE.
UH, YOU REMEMBER, REMEMBER LAST YEAR FOR KEUNG CITY, THERE WAS AN INFORMAL ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE CITY, UM, DURING AN EVENT AT THE EISMAN CENTER THAT WE, UH, WERE CONSIDERING ENTERING INTO.
AND THEY'D INVITED US TO ENTER INTO A FRIENDSHIP CITY, UH, AGREEMENT AS WELL WITH KEUNG CITY.
UM, SO FOR BOTH OF THESE, THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE TO DISCUSS THAT OPPORTUNITY AND ULTIMATELY, UH, IF COUNSEL DECIDED THEY WANTED TO PURSUE, UH, THESE OPPORTUNITIES, UM, THAT THEY WOULD, UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, MENTION, YOU KNOW, DISCUSS, UH, MAKE IT KNOWN THAT THEY WANNA MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.
AND THEN ULTIMATELY THAT, UH, MEMO, MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING COULD BE FINALIZED AND ULTIMATELY READY FOR A, UH, A SIGNING CEREMONY, UH, WHICH WE WOULD COORDINATE.
UH, AND AT THIS TIME, THE LAST, UH, POINT I WANNA MAKE HERE IS BEFORE I TURN OVER TO THE COUNCIL FOR DISCUSSION, IS, UM, SOME OF THESE DISCUSSIONS HAVE ALREADY BEEN HAD ABOUT THE POTENTIAL TIMING FOR THOSE SIGNING CEREMONIES.
UH, AS OF RIGHT NOW, MAYOR OMAR, UH, MAY TRAVEL TO TAIWAN, UH, THAT LAST WEEK OF SEPTEMBER INTO EARLY OCTOBER FOR THESE POTENTIAL SIGNING CEREMONIES.
UH, WITH THAT, I WANTED TO, UH, OPEN IT UP TO COUNCIL DISCUSSION, UH, SPECIFICALLY TO DISCUSS, UH, THE FRIENDSHIP CITY OPPORTUNITIES AND THE, UH, THE PROCESS FOR MOVING FORWARD ON THAT.
I HAVE I'LL START OFF BY SAYING I HAVE NO CONCERN OR ISSUE WITH US BECOMING FRIENDSHIP CITIES WITH TAIWAN.
I THINK IT'S A, SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD PROGRAM.
SOMETHING Y'ALL HAVE BEEN WORKING ON FOR A REALLY LONG TIME.
JUST MAYBE FOR MY OWN EDUCATION, ASIDE FROM DFW CHINATOWN AND OUR TIES THERE, AND ASIDE FROM TI AND SORT OF THE INVESTMENT THAT TI HAS IN TAIWAN, WHAT OTHER CONNECTIONS DOES RICHARDSON HAVE TO TAIWAN AND, SURE.
YEAH, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER AT SOME OF IT.
ALTHOUGH I IMAGINE MR. SHACKLET, YOU MAY HAVE OTHERS.
UM, SO WE DO HAVE A, AN EDUCATIONAL TIE, UM, SPECIFICALLY WITH, UH, FUJI, UH, CATHOLIC UNIVERSITY.
THEY EXCHANGE STUDENTS WITH UT DALLAS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, SOMETHING LIKE 20 STUDENTS EACH YEAR.
UM, THE SUSHI FOUNDATION, WHICH IS ACTUALLY THE PLACE WHERE WE SPENT A LITTLE BIT OF TIME JUST ON SATURDAY.
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OF OUR COMMUNITY FOR SOME TIME.THEY ACTUALLY HAVE THEIR, UH, HOME OFFICE IS ACTUALLY IN NEW TAIPEI CITY.
WE HAVE TWO COMPANIES, UH, BELIEVE, BOTH OF WHICH MIGHT BE HEADQUARTERED HERE, BUT WITH PRESENCE AND NEW TAIPEI CITY, UH, SPECIFICALLY IN EPPY THAT DOES, UH, SEMICONDUCTORS.
UH, AS WELL AS, UH, I BELIEVE IT'S CALLED TOPCO SCIENTIFIC.
UH, AND THEY ALSO HAVE, UH, A PRESENCE OVER THERE IN UTAH, PEI.
SO, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, AS I LOOKED AT IT, JUST FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A LOT OF GOOD WORK DONE ALREADY BY STAFF.
UM, GREAT WORK DONE BY MAYOR DUBBY, QUITE FRANKLY, THAT REALLY LOOKED AT ALL THIS.
AND WHEN I LOOKED AT IT, I WAS LOOKING FOR A CONNECTION AT THE ARTS, A CONNECTION WITH CULTURE, CONNECTION WITH BUSINESS, AND A CONNECTION WITH EDUCATION, ALL FOUR OF WHICH I WAS ABLE TO FIND.
UH, AND THEN WITH THE VETTING THAT HAD ALREADY HAPPENED, IT JUST MADE A LOT OF SENSE FOR ME.
I DUNNO IF THAT ANSWERS THE QUESTION, BUT YES, SIR.
YEAH, I, I WAS KIND OF WANTING TO TOUCH ON THE SAME, SAME BASIS.
I, UM, I'VE BEEN TRYING TO FOLLOW, FOLLOW SOME OF THE TARIFFS ON, UM, AND WHAT'S BEING IMPLEMENTED.
AND I, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, TAIWAN PROBABLY HAS THE LEAST AMOUNT OF TARIFFS AT THE MOMENT.
AND GENERALLY SPEAKING, SINCE THERE IS COLLABORATION, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH START OF RUNWAY OR SOME OTHER COLLABORATIONS THROUGH THE CITY OF RICHARDSON, UM, THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY OPEN UP, UH, SOME MANUFACTURING HERE, MAYBE POTENTIALLY.
AND, UH, CREATE SOME RELATIONSHIP.
AND I KNOW AS FAR AS THE COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE CULTURES, I KNOW THAT WE SORT OF ENGAGED MORE OF THAT LAST YEAR, ESPECIALLY WITH THE ICEMAN AND INTEGRATING SOME OF THE ARTS.
UM, SO I KNOW THAT THAT WAS IMPLEMENTED.
I THINK THERE WAS SOME FAIRLY GOOD RESPONSE THERE.
I DEFINITELY LIKE THE INTEGRATION AND THE PASS THROUGH OF STARTUP RUNWAY AND WORKING WITH THE TAIWAN CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
SO, YOU KNOW, I'M IN SUPPORTIVE OF, OF HELPING BRIDGE THOSE, THAT CULTURE AND THAT COMMUNITY.
I, AGAIN, I, I ALWAYS SAY THIS 'CAUSE WHEN WE'RE WORKING WITH A MULTI A MULTITUDE OF CULTURES, I WANT THEM TO INCUBATE HERE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE AND, AND, AND PUT THEIR MONEY BACK INTO OUR COMMUNITY.
SO WHETHER IT'S MANUFACTURING OR ARTS OR PRODUCTION OR CELLS OF IMPORTS, I REALLY WANNA POTENTIALLY SEE THAT AS, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING WE SORT OF REGISTER.
UH, HEY CHRIS, I KNOW YOU GAVE US KIND OF A OVERHEAD OF WHAT HAPPENED IN WITH THAT INDIA TRIP.
UH, DO WE HAVE ANYTHING SCHEDULED FOR LIKE A, I GUESS AN UPDATE ON HOW THAT FIRST YEAR IS GOING OUT OVER THERE WITH THEM? OR DO WE HAVE KIND OF A BREAKDOWN OF HOW SUCCESSFUL THAT'S BEEN, THAT PARTNERSHIP WITH PROJECT? UM, NOT, NOT CURRENTLY ON THE AGENDA, BUT, UH, IT EASILY, UH, CAN BE WRAPPED UNDER ONE OF, UH, THE PROPOSED, UH, TACTICS THAT WE HAVE PLANNED FOR YOU.
UM, YEAH, I, I THINK THE IDEA OF A FRIENDSHIP CITY, UH, I'LL, I'LL BE HONEST, I'M NOT, IF YOU ASK ME TO DESCRIBE, TELL YOU WHAT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A FRIENDLY CITY AND A SISTER CITY IS, IN ALL FAIRNESS, I COULDN'T DO THAT RIGHT NOW.
BUT THIS IDEA OF CONNECTING WITH CITIES, AND I THINK TAIWAN IS AN APPROPRIATE ONE BECAUSE IT'S ONE THAT I DEFINITELY SEE THE CONNECTIONS AS ME OR, UM, OMAR MENTIONED IN OUR COMMUNITY IN VARIOUS WAYS.
YOU KNOW, IS THERE A BETTER COUNTRY TO, TO, UH, DO IT WITH? I DON'T KNOW.
I MEAN, I I COULDN'T TELL YOU, YOU KNOW, TAIWAN VERSUS SOMEWHERE ELSE, BUT I DO KNOW THAT, UH, THERE ARE STRONG, UM, TAIWANESE TIES IN OUR COMMUNITY.
UM, THE ONLY CONCERN OF MINE WHEN THIS, AND I GUESS KIND OF QUESTION HERE WAS IF THIS, WHAT EXACTLY HAD MAYOR DUBBY DONE ON THIS? AND HOW LONG HAS THIS BEEN IN CONVERSATION? 'CAUSE I KNOW A FEW YEARS AGO WHEN I WAS RUNNING, THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT A COUPLE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY HAD MENTIONED, AND I THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT IDEA.
I DIDN'T THINK OF ANYTHING OF IT.
AND THEN LAST WEEK WHEN WE GOT THE VOICE, WE GOT A VOICEMAIL STATING THAT MAYOR, UH, OMAR WAS GONNA GO ON THIS, UM, TRIP TO TAIWAN, AND IT WAS GONNA BE, UH, PAID FROM PERSONAL, UH, FUNDS.
I SAID, AND THEN I HEARD THAT IT WAS TO CONTINUE THE WORK THAT MAYOR DUBY HAD DONE.
I'M LIKE, WHY ARE WE HEARING ABOUT THIS FOR THE FIRST TIME? SO MY QUESTION IS AROUND KIND OF THE TIMING AND WHAT EXACTLY HAD BEEN DONE.
CAN YOU KINDA GIVE US SOME, I GUESS SOME BACKGROUND TO WHAT MAYOR HAD, MAYOR DOY HAD DONE, AND KIND OF HOW IT GOT TO THIS POINT, BECAUSE IT KIND OF CAME AS A SURPRISE TO ME, AND, WELL, I LOVE THE IDEA AND I THINK THAT SOMETHING SHOULD BE DONE.
I WAS, I KIND OF FELT LIKE, WOW, WHERE DID THIS COME FROM? HOW DID THIS HAPPEN SO QUICKLY? AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'RE HEARING ABOUT IT ON A MONDAY NIGHT MM-HMM
SO CAN YOU KINDA PROVIDE SOME BACKGROUND THERE ON WHAT
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SOME OF THAT PRE-WORK WAS, DON? SURE.SO WE HAVE BEEN A PARTNER OF THE GREATER DALLAS TAIWANESE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE FOR, UM, FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW.
UM, WE HAVE, AS, UH, MAYOR MENTIONED, WE HAVE A LARGE, UM, UM, UM, CONTINGENCY OF TAIWANESE COMPANIES, UM, THAT ARE IN RICHARDSON.
AND SO, UH, VERY INVOLVED IN THE TAIWANESE, UH, CULTURE AND, AND HERE IN NORTH TEXAS, UM, LAST YEAR, UM, AND AGAIN, GIVING A LITTLE BIT GRACE HERE, APPROXIMATELY SEPTEMBER, UM, WE HOSTED, UH, IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE GREATER DALLAS TAIWANESE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AT THE EISMAN CENTER, UM, A PERFORMANCE THAT, UM, A PERFORMANCE OF, UH, TAIWANESE ACROBATS THAT MM-HMM
I THINK MAYBE, UH, MAYBE HALF DOZEN CITIES IN THE COUNTRY, WAS ABLE TO, UH, TO KIND OF HOST, UH, IT WAS AT THAT, UM, PERFORMANCE THAT, UM, UM, MAYOR DUBY AT THAT TIME AND, UH, REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE, UH, TAIWANESE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, UM, UM, MENTIONED PUBLICLY THAT WE WERE, UH, IN, UM, DISCUSSIONS AROUND A FRIENDLY CITY OPPORTUNITY.
UH, AT THAT TIME IT WAS ACTUALLY, UH, KEY LONG, AND SINCE THEN, NEW TYPE A HAS COME ON, UM, AS A CONSIDERATION.
AND SO, UM, UM, I, I CAN'T SAY, UM, CHRIS, I, I CAN'T SAY FOR SURE THAT IN ANY OF YOUR UPDATES, WE'VE, UM, NECESSARILY MENTIONED, UM, TAIPEI OR UNG, BUT I KIND OF THINK MAYBE, UM, WE HAVE, UH, MENTIONED THE IDEA OF A FRIENDLY CITY.
I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SISTER CITIES IN THE PAST AND, AND MANY MOONS AGO, I ACTUALLY THINK WE ACTUALLY HAD A OFFICIAL SISTER CITY.
UM, BUT, UM, THE FRIENDLY CITY, UH, PROGRAM IS A, UH, A MUCH LOWER BAR.
IT'S ESSENTIALLY A MEMO OF UNDERSTANDING AROUND, AROUND COOPERATION, UH, BUSINESS, UH, DEVELOPMENT, UM, SHARING, UM, AS, AS THE MAYOR WAS MENTIONING, YOU KNOW, SHARING, UM, OPPORTUNITIES FOR EDUCATION AND, UH, CULTURAL FURTHERANCE.
AND SO WE JUST FELT IT WAS A, IT WAS A, IT WAS A MUCH LOWER BAR THAN THE SISTER CITY.
UM, TO YOUR POINT, THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER PLACES IN THE WORLD, AND, YOU KNOW, IF THIS WORKS OUT, UM, I COULD TOTALLY SEE US EXPANDING OUR FRIENDLY CITY, UM, CONNECTIONS TO, UM, UH, TO COMM, YOU KNOW, TO TO CITIES ALL AROUND THE WORLD.
WE HAVE, THAT'S THE, UH, AS WE TALKED ABOUT LAST WEEK, FIRST NIGHT, A BUDGET RETREAT.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE BLESSED TO BE SUCH AN INTERNATIONAL CITY IN MANY WAYS.
AND THE BUSINESS, UM, ENVIRONMENT IS, IS NO EXCEPTION TO THAT.
AND SO, I I, I BELIEVE IF, IF THIS WORKS OUT WELL, UM, WE WOULD, WE WOULD PROBABLY COME BACK TO YOU IN THE FUTURE WITH ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES, SO IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE WORLD.
SO WHAT ARE THE, I GUESS THE SPECIFICS AROUND A FRIENDLY CITY? WHAT ARE WE AGREEING TO? ARE THOSE GONNA BE BROUGHT TO US LATER, OR ARE THERE SPECIFICS, LIKE IF I GO TO A WEBSITE THAT SAYS, FRIENDLY CITY, THESE ARE WHAT YOU MUST AGREE TO, TO BE CONSIDERED FRIENDLY CITY.
LIKE, CAN YOU GIVE US SOME KIND OF, I GUESS, SPACE OF UNDERSTANDING? SURE.
SO A FRIENDSHIP CITY WILL NOT HAVE AS FORMAL OF A FRAMEWORK AS A SISTER CITY WILL.
SISTER CITY DOES HAVE A VERY SPECIFIC FRAMEWORK WHERE THERE'S A, THERE'S A PERIOD, UH, SORT OF A, A A A MEETING PERIOD BEFOREHAND, UH, FORMAL MEETINGS, FORMAL RESEARCH, UH, TIMEFRAMES FOR EACH CITY.
UH, AND THEN TIMING TO CREATE, UH, RESOLUTIONS AND MORE FORMAL DOCUMENTS THAT, THAT LAY THAT OUT.
FRIENDSHIP CITIES, UH, UM, ALLOWS FOR A LOT MORE FLEXIBILITY.
AND IN TERMS OF WHAT'S GOING TO GO IN THAT MOU, IT'S GOING TO TALK ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE IMPORTANCE AND THE PROMOTION OF CULTURAL EXCHANGE EDUCATION, UM, BUSINESS ATMOSPHERE, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO, IT'S NOT GOING TO LOCK THE CITY EITHER CITY INTO SPECIFIC BENCHMARKS THAT THEY HAVE TO MEET OR YEAH.
OR ANY SORT OF, UH, REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY MUST PROVIDE.
IT'S, IT'S REALLY A MEMO OF UNDERSTANDING, AGREEING TO COOPERATE.
AND I THINK THE COOPERATION CAN BE, YOU KNOW, ON ANY, ANY OF THOSE FRONT AND PROBABLY OTHERS, ANY OF THOSE FRONTS AND PROBABLY OTHERS THAT WOULD, UH, MUTUALLY BENEFIT, YOU KNOW, BOTH COMMUNITIES, UH, FOR PARTICIPATING AND, AND COLLABORATING.
JUST, JUST TO HELP A LITTLE BIT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER BARRIOS, UH, THERE ARE FOUR BULLETS, UH, IN I THINK ONE OF THE INITIAL MEMORANDUMS OF UNDERSTANDING THAT WERE BEING CONSIDERED AND DRAFTED, UH, PURSUE CULTURAL EXCHANGE OPPORTUNITIES TO CELEBRATE CULTURAL DIVERSITY AND FIGHT AGAINST PREJUDICE, CREATE OPPORTUNITIES TO LEARN ABOUT AND REFLECT UPON THE INTERSECTIONALITY OF INTERNATIONAL CULTURE, IDENTITY SUPPORT, YOUTH EXCHANGE OPPORTUNITIES THAT PROMOTE THE EXCHANGE OF EXPERIENCES, IDEAS, LANGUAGE, EDUCATION, CREATE NETWORKING OPPORTUNITIES AND CONFERENCES TO PROMOTE BUSINESS PARTNERSHIP AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES.
AND THEN THE NEXT LETTER, LETTER C, UH, SAYS, THE MOU DOES NOT CREATE LEGALLY BINDING OBLIGATIONS.
AND I THINK THAT'S AT LEAST A PART OF THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A SISTER CITY AND A FRIENDSHIP CITY IS THERE'S LESS BINDING AND MUCH MORE JUST KIND OF EXPLORATORY, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
UM, AND AS I UNDERSTAND IT, AND I WAS KIND OF LOOKING BACK AT A, A PREVIOUS CALENDAR THAT I HAD, UH, RECEIVED FROM, UH, THE TAIWANESE COMMUNITY, UH, CHAMBER, AS WELL AS, UH, VETTED BY THE
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CITY.IT WAS MID 2024 APPROXIMATELY, THAT CONVERSATIONS ABOUT BOTH CITIES BEGAN.
UM, SO IT, IT HAD BEEN VETTED KIND OF OVER A, A NUMBER OF MONTHS, AND THERE WERE A NUMBER OF FITS AND STARTS, AND IT LOOKED LIKE THINGS WERE GONNA GET SIGNED, AND THEN, UH, THERE WAS AN ELECTION THERE, AND THEN AN ELECTION HERE, AND HERE WE ARE.
WELL, THAT'S ONE, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, I FULLY SUPPORT IT.
AND I, UM, MAYOR ONE, I, I THINK, UH, WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE ON THAT.
I THINK IT'S A GREAT STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
I THINK THAT IN ORDER TO GET TO A SISTER CITY, IT'S A GREAT STEP IN THAT DIRECTION, AND I APPLAUD EVERYBODY FOR THEIR EFFORTS IN MOVING THAT FORWARD.
I, I DON'T KNOW, THE, THE TIMING FELT A LITTLE AWKWARD AND MADE ME A LITTLE UNEASY.
IT FELT LIKE IT KIND OF GOT THROWN ON.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT GOT THROWN ON STAFF OR THROWN ON US OR WHAT THAT WAS, BUT I REALLY WISH, WHETHER IT CAME FROM YOU MAYOR OR FROM STAFF, I, I JUST FELT LIKE, UM, HEARING IT AND HEARING THIS AFTER SOMETHING WAS ALREADY PLANNED, I REALLY WISH IT WOULD'VE BEEN KIND OF THE OTHER WAY AROUND.
AND I THINK THAT WOULD'VE GIVEN US AN OPPORTUNITY TO SUPPORT THIS IN A DIFFERENT WAY.
I, YOU KNOW, NOT THAT WE'RE NOT SUPPORTING IT NOW, BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, UM, HAVING A, HAVING MORE OF A, I GUESS, RUNWAY TO THIS, UM, IS A BETTER WAY OF SAYING IT.
BUT AGAIN, I SUPPORT THE SPIRIT, I SUPPORT THE PROGRAM, AND I, I HOPE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WORKS AND MOVES OUR CITY FORWARD IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
I, I APOLOGIZE, I I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT MAYOR DUBY HAD NOT SHARED SOME OF THIS STUFF WITH YOU, BUT THAT'S OH, HE DID.
AND, AND IT SEEMED LIKE IT WAS PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE, BUT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE.
UM, I, I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT SORT OF, UH, IT PERHAPS IT NEEDS TO BE A TACTIC AROUND, UM, YOU KNOW, REALLY DISCUSSING WHAT OUR, UM, INTENTION IS AROUND THIS.
I'M FINE WITH THESE TWO CITIES AND I ALL THE WORK THAT'S GONE INTO IT, BUT, YOU KNOW, ARE THERE OTHER, UH, SISTER CITIES OR STRATEGY AROUND THAT THAT, THAT MAYBE YOU CAN EXPLORE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, FROM AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT AND A CULTURAL EXCHANGE STANDPOINT, LIKE WHAT OUR STRATEGY IS GONNA BE GOING FORWARD TO IDENTIFY THESE, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD DISCUSSION FOR, FOR US TO HAVE AND FOR YOU TO EXPLORE.
AND THEN, UM, MR. SHACKLET, UH, YOU GOT TO GO TO INDIA LAST YEAR.
YOU JUST PRESENTED TO US, I KNOW WE HAVE A TIGHT BUDGET THIS YEAR, BUT IS IT IN THE BUDGET TO DO ANOTHER INTERNATIONAL TRIP THIS YEAR FOR STAFF? IS THAT IN THE WORKS? UH, NOT IN THE CURRENT BUDGET YEAR.
AND, UM, I I DON'T THINK WE, WE DID NOT PUT A INDIA TRIP IN FY 26.
WE'LL, WE'LL, IF, IF, IF THE OPPORTUNITY PRESENTS ITSELF, WE'LL EVALUATE THE KIND OF THE COST, YOU KNOW, THE ROI ON IT.
UM, YOU KNOW, TO COUNCILMAN, UH, BARRIOS THIS POINT.
I MEAN, WE'RE COMING UP ON ONE YEAR AT, AT STARTUP RUNWAY, WE HAVE A, A SERIES OF VETTING THAT WE'RE DOING TO KIND OF DETERMINE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE EFFECTIVENESS OF IT OVER THE FIRST YEAR.
WE, I BELIEVE WE WILL, UH, KIND OF RETOOL AND, AND RECALIBRATE OUR EXPECTATIONS FOR YEAR TWO TWO, AS YOU WOULD IMAGINE.
I MEAN, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS IN THE IQ HQ IS NOT GONNA HAPPEN OVERNIGHT, RIGHT.
AND SO, UM, AND, UM, AND SO I I, THE INTERNATIONAL PIECE OF THAT IS NO DIFFERENT.
AND SO, BUT WE ARE EVOLVING OUR EXPECTATIONS OF THE PARTNERSHIP WITH STARTUP RUNWAY.
UH, WE WILL BE KIND OF ARTICULATING THAT IN OUR, OUR YEAR TWO AGREEMENT WITH THEM.
AND SO I THINK, UM, AGAIN, TO, TO THE EARLIEST SUGGESTION, I THINK IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO KIND OF BRING BACK AND DO A LITTLE BIT DEEPER DIVE ON, NOT A START AND STARTUP RUNWAY IS A BIG PART OF OUR INTERNATIONAL STRATEGY, BUT IT'S NOT OUR ONLY INTERNATIONAL STRATEGY.
I THINK THAT'S ALWAYS IMPORTANT TO REMIND US AS WELL.
BUT, BUT YOU MADE A POINT I WAS GONNA MAKE, WHICH IS LIKE, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT GONNA KNOW IN ONE YEAR WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS SUCCESSFUL.
AND SO I THINK WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, BUILD THAT INTO WHATEVER PRESENTATION WE'RE GONNA DO ABOUT HOW WE CAN HELP THEM, UH, BE SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE IT'S A GREAT CONCEPT.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, WHILE IT MAY NOT BE IN THE BUDGET, I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES, UM, WHILE WE'RE HELPING START A RUNWAY, BE SUCCESSFUL IN THE IQ, WE SHOULDN'T BE SORT OF MISSING OTHER INTERNATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES.
AND SO THIS FRIENDSHIP CITY IS A GREAT WAY TO DO THAT.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S CLOSER CANADA, MEXICO, UH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, SOMETHING THAT'S NOT GONNA TAKE YOU 25 HOURS TO GET THERE.
AND ITALY, UM,
UM, ANYWAY, I, CHRIS, I JUST WANNA SAY, APART FROM INTERNATIONAL, YOU'VE BEEN DOING AN AMAZING JOB AS THE DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
IT'S HEADLINE AFTER HEADLINE AFTER HEADLINE.
AND I JUST WANNA RECOGNIZE IT.
AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU'VE BEEN DOING.
THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO, TIM HUTCHIN, WRITER, UH, JUST TWO COMMENTS.
I WANT TO OFFICIALLY GO ON THE RECORD KIND OF, 'CAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT IT.
UH, MAYOR DUBBY DID, DID UPDATE US.
SO YEAH, WE, WE, WE DID HEAR ABOUT THAT NUMBER ONE.
NUMBER TWO IS, UH, I JUST WANNA GO BACK 'CAUSE I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO THINK THIS ISN'T AN AUTOMATIC STEPPING STONE TO SISTER CITY 'CAUSE 'CAUSE COUNCILMAN BARRIOS KIND OF INTIMATED THAT AT THE END OF HIS COMMENTS, AND I JUST, I'M NOT TRYING TO CORRECT HIM.
I'M JUST TRYING, I WANT CLARIFICATION AS TO, IT'S NOT AN AUTOMATIC, THIS ISN'T AN AUTOMATIC STEPPING STONE.
WE, WE'LL DO THIS, WE'LL EVALUATE,
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GO A COUPLE YEARS OR WHATEVER.IT'S, I MEAN, I'M NOT PUTTING A TIMEFRAME ON IT, BUT JUST SOME PERIOD OF TIME KIND OF TRY IT BEFORE WE BUY IT, SO TO SPEAK.
AND THEN AT SOME POINT IN TIME IT MAY COME BACK AND WE MAY MAKE THAT NEXT STEP.
BUT THERE'S NO AUTOMATIC STEPPING STONE BY ANY STRETCH, CORRECT? NO, NO.
THIS IS, UH, THIS IS KIND OF, WE WERE, WE EVALUATED THIS OPPORTUNITY ON ITS OWN MERITS AND IF IT LED TO SOMETHING MORE OFFICIAL LIKE THAT IN THE FUTURE, YOU GUYS WOULD BE, UH, OBVIOUSLY VERY MUCH INVOLVED IN MAKING THAT DETERMINATION.
YEAH, THAT'S, AND I JUST WANTED THAT CLAR SO IN CASE ANYBODY WAS LISTENING, THAT WAS, THAT WAS WHERE I WAS AT WHAT YOU JUST SAID DONE.
BUT I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.
YEAH, IT'S, IT'S DEFINITELY A BABY STEP.
UM, AND IT'LL GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO TRY THIS OUT, SEE HOW IT WORKS.
IT WAS LOW HANGING FRUIT ON MY SIDE 'CAUSE SO MUCH WORK HAD ALREADY BEEN DONE.
SO IT WASN'T A WHOLE LOT FOR ME TO DO IT OTHER THAN FIGURE OUT WHETHER OR NOT I HAD, YOU KNOW, CAMPAIGN FUNDS AVAILABLE TO, TO GET MYSELF OVER THERE AND TO TAKE CARE OF WHAT NEEDED TO BE TAKEN CARE OF.
SO BUDGET NEUTRAL, LOW HANGING FRUIT, A LOT OF WORK HAD ALREADY BEEN DONE.
AND IT'S A GREAT WAY FOR US AT LEAST EXPLORE HOW THESE FRIENDSHIP CITIES WORK AND DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT MORE FRIENDSHIP CITIES OR WHETHER OR NOT WE EVER WANNA DO A SISTER CITY.
THAT'S ALL STUFF WE CAN CONSIDER.
COUNCIL MEMBER MORRIS, I WANTED TO BE CLARIFIED FOR ANYBODY WATCHING THE AUDIENCE OR AT, AT HOME.
I DID NOT ATTEMPT TO IMPLICATE MAYOR DOOBY THERE ON HIM.
NOT SAYING MY QUESTION TO STAFF WAS ABOUT WHAT NOTHING WAS SAID SPECIFICALLY ON WHEN WE RECEIVED, IF WE RECEIVED A, AN UPDATE ON THAT.
UM, THAT WAS MAYOR HIMSELF THAT MENTIONED, UH, FORMER MAYOR DUBY.
SO I DID NOT AT ALL, UM, STATE THAT DUBY, UH, MAYOR, FORMER MAYOR DUBY, UH, SAID OR DIDN'T SAY SOMETHING.
I DO NOT RECALL, UM, EITHER FROM STAFF OR FROM ANYBODY EVER HEARING ABOUT THIS PRIOR, UH, IF IT WAS PRESENTED.
THAT'S WHY I ASKED SPECIFICALLY TO THE CITY MANAGER ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED THERE AND WHAT WAS THE PRE-WORK, NOTHING WAS GIVEN TO ME ON ANY SPECIFICS ON THAT.
SO, UH, I DO WANNA CLARIFY THAT.
AND I WANT TO THANK YOU, CHRIS, FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK.
I ALSO WANT TO THANK MAYOR DUBBY FOR ALL OF HIS HARD WORK TO GET US TO THE POINT WHERE THIS WAS RELATIVELY EASY THING FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO JUMP ONTO AND, AND BE ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF.
I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT DOING SOMETHING LIKE A FRIENDSHIP CITY, SPECIFICALLY WITH TAIWAN FOR SOMETHING LIKE 20 YEARS.
SO IT'S REALLY GREAT TO FINALLY BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, GET THAT ACROSS THE THRESHOLD.
SO THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK YOU DO, AND THANK YOU DON.
ANY OTHER, UH, DISCUSSION ON THAT? THANK YOU.
[8. PUBLIC HEARING, ZONING FILE 25-12, AND CONSIDER ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF RICHARDSON, TEXAS, AMENDING THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE AND ZONING MAP OF THE CITY OF RICHARDSON, AS HERETOFORE AMENDED, SO AS TO GRANT A CHANGE IN ZONING TO GRANT MAJOR MODIFICATIONS TO THE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS OF THE WEST SPRING VALLEY CORRIDOR PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT BY ADOPTING A CONCEPT PLAN ATTACHED AS EXHIBIT “B” AND CONCEPT ELEVATIONS ATTACHED AS EXHIBIT “C” FOR 8.59 ACRES, LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF W. SPRING VALLEY ROAD AND WEST OF S. WATERVIEW DRIVE, RICHARDSON, TEXAS.]
ON TO PUBLIC HEARING.UH, WE DO HAVE PUBLIC HEARING ZONING FILE 25 DASH 12 AND CONSIDER ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE TO GRANT A CHANGE IN ZONING TO GRANT MAJOR MODIFICATIONS TO THE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS OF THE WEST SPRING VALLEY CORRIDOR PD PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT BY ADOPTING A CONCEPT PLAN AND CONCEPT ELEVATIONS FOR 8.59 ACRES LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF WEST SPRING VALLEY ROAD, AND WEST OF SOUTHWEST, UH, WATERVIEW DRIVE.
MAYOR AND COUNCIL, UH, BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO DEREK, I, UH, JUST WANNA TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY AND I HOPE YOU IN THE COMMUNITY WILL, UH, JOIN ME IN WELCOMING TINA KINS AS OUR DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
UH, TINA, UH, WE ARE SO PLEASED THAT, UH, YOU HAVE REJOINED OUR TEAM.
UH, TINA WAS HERE FOR, UH, MANY, MANY IMPORTANT YEARS, UH, AS WE WENT THROUGH, UM, THE US 75 MAIN STREET, UH, ZONING PROCESS AND UPDATE.
UH, SHE, AS SHE CAME ON ORIGINALLY HELPED US, UH, UM, UH, REFINE, UM, THE, UM, WEST SPRING VALLEY, UM, PD AND, UM, AND HAS JUST SUCH A WEALTH OF, UH, KNOWLEDGE NOT ONLY ABOUT RICHARDSON, BUT ABOUT PLANNING, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UH, UM, REVITALIZATION AND REDEVELOPMENT.
AND SO IT'S A, IT'S A GREAT, UH, UH, ADD TO OUR TEAM.
AND TINA, WE'RE VERY BLESSED AND APPRECIATIVE THAT YOU'VE, UH, YOU'VE JOINED AGAIN AND, AND WE WELCOME YOU.
I ALSO WANNA, UM, WELCOME ANDREW, UH, BODA, OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR AND DEREK, WHO'S OUR SENIOR PLAN DE IS GONNA LEAD US IN THE NEXT TWO PRESENTATIONS.
UM, UH, ON THE FIRST PRESENTATION HERE IN MARYLAND COUNCIL, WE DO HAVE THE APPLICANT HERE.
AND SO IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS THAT YOU THINK THEY MAY BE BETTER, UH, SUITED TO RESPOND TO AND, UH, ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO THAT.
AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO DEREK AND I GO THROUGH SOME OF THE TECHNICAL DETAILS.
ZONING FILE 25 12 IS A REQUEST FOR A MAJOR MODIFICATION AT 1230 WEST SPRING VALLEY ROAD.
THE SUBJECT SIDE IS EIGHT ACRES SHOWN IN YELLOW HERE.
THIS IS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF SPRING VALLEY ROAD AND SITS BETWEEN WATERFALL WAY TO THE WEST AND WATERVIEW DRIVE TO THE EAST.
THE PROPERTY WAS FIRST DEVELOPED IN 1966 AS PART OF THE CHRISTIAN SCIENCE, UH, LEAVES NURSING FACILITY.
THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED AT THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE EAST.
OUR TOWNHOME SINGLE FAMILY AND MULTIFAMILY TO THE SOUTH ACROSS COY AND THE CITY OF DALLAS ARE MULTIFAMILY UNITS.
AND THEN WEST OF THIS PROPERTY IS THE ENCORE SUBSTATION.
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THE, THE SUBJECT SITE IS ZONED AS PART OF THE WEST SPRING VALLEY CORRIDOR PD PLAN DEVELOPMENT.SO THIS IS A, UH, ZOOM IN ON SUB AREA E OF THE WEST SPRING VALLEY CORRIDOR PLAN DEVELOPMENT.
SUBDISTRICT E INTENT IS TO CREATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR HIGH QUALITY HOUSING IN A VARIETY OF STYLES AND TYPES AND THE POSSIBILITY FOR SENIOR ORIENTED HOUSING AND THE ENVISION RICHARDSON COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN CALLS FOR COMPACT RESIDENTIAL PLACE TYPE.
WITHIN THAT PLACE TYPE SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED DUPLEXES ARE ALLOWED AS A PRIMARY USE.
AND INSTITUTIONAL USES ARE CALLED OUT AS A SECONDARY USE.
AND THEN THIS MAP SHOWS MAJOR MODIFICATIONS WITHIN THE WEST SPRING VALLEY CORRIDOR.
SO WHEN THE WEST SPRING VALLEY CORRIDOR PD WAS FIRST ADOPTED IN 2011, UM, IT DID CALL FOR THE OPTION FOR MAJOR MODIFICATIONS FOR DEVELOPMENT THAT MAY NOT ADHERE TO THE CODE.
THERE HAVE BEEN EIGHT MOD MAJOR MODIFICATIONS ISSUED SINCE 2011 WHEN THE CODE WAS ADOPTED.
THOSE ARE SHOWN IN GREEN HERE.
HERE'S SOME SITE PHOTOS OF THE SITE AS SEEN FROM THE FRONT ENTRY ON SPRING VALLEY.
ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE SCREEN IS THE MONUMENT SIGN FOR THE SITE.
THE LEFT HAND SIDE IS A BRIDGE AND CULVERT THAT GOES OVER THE CREEK THAT RUNS ALONG THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
THIS IS THE REAR PROPERTY LINE.
THE PROPERTY BACKS UP TO A NEIGHBORHOOD CUL-DE-SAC, UM, WHERE THERE'S A DEAD END STREET AT THE END OF THE CUL-DE-SAC.
THERE'S AN ENTRY, AN EXIT GATE IN THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY AS WELL.
HOWEVER, THAT'S ONLY USED FOR EMERGENCY ACCESS ONLY.
AND THEN HERE'S ANOTHER AERIAL VIEW OF THE SITE.
SO, AS I MENTIONED, THE PROPERTY FIRST DEVELOPED IN 1966 AS THE LEAVES A CHRISTIAN SCIENCE NURSING FACILITY.
IT FIRST DEVELOPED WITH THE ORANGE BUILDINGS YOU SEE HERE IN THE CONCEPT PLAN.
YOU HAVE THE NURSING FACILITY IN THE NORTHEAST CORNER, IN THE CENTER OF THE SITE.
YOU HAVE A TRAINING FACILITY AND STAFF HOUSING.
UH, THE APPLICANT HAS PROPOSED TO EXPAND THE CAMPUS BY PROVIDING ADDITIONAL ONSITE LIVING OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE GUESTS AND ITS RESIDENTS AND THE INDEPENDENT LIVING PORTION OF THE SITE.
SO THEY HAVE PROPOSED FOUR DUPLEX UNITS OF WHICH WILL PROVIDE EIGHT DWELLING UNITS FOR THOSE RESIDENTS THAT HAVE, UM, THAT ARE INDEPENDENT LIVING AND HAVE LESS NURSING NEEDS ON SITE IN TOTAL WITH THE ADDITION OF THE DWELLING UNITS FOR THE RESIDENTS AND THE STAFF HOUSING.
UH, I'LL MENTION THAT SOME OF THE NURSING STAFF DOES LIVE ON SITE AS WELL.
THAT IS ANOTHER FEATURE OF THE CAMPUS.
IN TOTAL, THERE WILL BE 16 DWELLING UNITS ON SITE.
UM, THE SITE HAS BEEN DEVELOPED WITH THE CIRCULAR DRIVE YOU SEE HERE IN GRAY.
THERE IS THE ONE POINT OF ENTRY OFF OF SPRING VALLEY ROAD, AS I MENTIONED.
IT IS A SECURED AND GATED SITE.
SO THERE IS A GATE DOWN AT THE, UH, SPLIT ENTRANCE.
THE SITE PROVIDES 81 PARKING SPACES.
UM, AND SOME OF THOSE DO INCLUDE SOME ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES PROVIDED WITH THE ADDITION OF THE DUPLEXES.
HERE ARE THE ELEVATIONS THAT SHOW HOW THE DUPLEXES WILL LOOK.
SO YOU SEE THAT THEY HAVE A LOW SLUNG ROOF, WHICH IS REMINISCENT OF A MID-CENTURY MODERN STYLE.
THE TWO UNITS MIRROR EACH OTHER.
UM, I'LL ALSO POINT OUT HERE THAT THE WEST SPRING VALLEY CODE REQUIRES NEW D BUILDINGS TO BE TWO STORIES.
HOWEVER, THERE'S AN OPTION FOR A MINOR MODIFICATION TO ALLOW A SINGLE STORY DUPLEX.
SO STAFF WILL BE GRANTING A MINOR MODIFICATION FOR THAT REQUEST.
UH, WE CAN GRANT THAT MODIFICATION ADMINISTRATIVELY.
SO HERE ARE THE MAJOR MODIFICATIONS.
MAJOR MODIFICATIONS ARE A MECHANISM WITHIN THE WEST SPRING VALLEY CODE THAT ALLOWS COUNSEL TO DECIDE ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS, UH, WHERE, UH, APPLICANTS ARE SEEKING TO REDEVELOP OR DEVELOP PROPERTIES AND THEY HAVE A DESIRE FOR EXCEPTIONS TO THE CODE, OR IT'S A EXISTING PROPERTY THAT MAY NOT MEET THE STANDARDS OF THE CODE.
UM, SO WHEN A PROPERTY IS DEVELOPING OR REDEVELOPING, AND WE FIND THAT THERE ARE NONCONFORMITIES ON THE SITE, THOSE CAN BE ADDRESSED WITH THESE MAJOR MODIFICATIONS.
SO FIRST IS RELATED TO THE USE.
THE USE ITSELF AS AN INDEPENDENT LIVING FACILITY AND NURSING HOME IS NOT AN ALLOWED USE BY RIGHT.
HOWEVER, IT CAN BE ALLOWED BY A MAJOR MODIFICATION.
SO SINCE THEY HAVE BEEN OPERATING IN THAT WAY PRIOR TO THE CODE BEING ADOPTED IN 2011, THEY WERE OPERATING AS A LEGAL NON-CONFORMING USE.
UM, BUT THIS WILL GET THEM INTO CONFORMANCE.
AND THEN HERE ARE THE SITE ELEMENTS IN THE CODE.
A MINIMUM DUPLEX SIZE IS A REQUIRED MINIMUM OF 3000 SQUARE FEET FOR THE BUILDING.
AND THEN 1500 SQUARE FEET FOR EACH UNIT ITSELF.
WHAT THEY HAVE PROPOSED IS A 2200 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING AND 1100 SQUARE FOOT UNITS, WHICH THEY SAY IS ADEQUATE FOR THEIR, THEIR RESIDENCE.
UM, ALSO THE CODE REQUIRES GARAGE PARKING FOR DUPLEXES.
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HAS INDICATED MOST OF THEIR, UH, RESIDENTS DON'T DRIVE, AND THE SURFACE PARKING PROVIDED WOULD BE ADEQUATE.THEY DO NOT INTEND TO MODIFY ANY OF THE EXISTING PARKING AREAS AND FOR THE NEW PARKING AREAS AS WELL.
UH, THEY DO NOT INTEND TO ADD LANDSCAPE ISLANDS.
AND BUILDING FRONTAGE IS ANOTHER MAJOR MODIFICATION.
THE CODE CALLS FOR BUILDINGS TO BE CONSTRUCTED WITHIN THE BUILD TWO ZONE ALONG THE EDGE OF THE STREET TO CREATE A MORE COMPACT, DENSE URBAN FEEL.
UM, HOWEVER, THEY ARE MA MAINLY STAYING TO THE INTERIOR OF THE SITE THEY DON'T PLAN ON, AND THEY'RE KEEPING THEIR BUILDINGS WITHIN THE INTERIOR OF THE SITE ALONG THAT EXISTING CIRCULAR DRIVEWAY THROUGHOUT THE SITE, ALONG THE STREETS SCAPE.
THE WEST SPRING VALLEY CODE CALLS FOR THE STREET TO BE IMPROVED WITH A 12 FOOT WIDE SIDEWALK AND 10 FOOT WIDE AMENITY ZONE.
SO A PORTION OF THE SIDEWALK ALONG THE FRONTAGE HAS ALREADY BEEN RECONSTRUCTED AS PART OF A, UH, DRAINAGE AND CULVERT PROJECT.
SO THE BRIDGE YOU SEE ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE SCREEN, THE SQUARE SHAPED ARCHITECTURAL FEATURE, UM, WAS PART OF A CITY PROJECT THAT DID WIDEN THAT SIDEWALK TO 12 FEET FOR ABOUT 30% OF THE LOT FRONTAGE.
HOWEVER, THE REMAINING 200 FEET HAS, IS STILL, UH, EQUIPPED WITH JUST A FIVE FOOT WIDE SIDEWALK.
AND THE APPLICANT HAS INDICATED BECAUSE THEY DON'T PLAN ON MAKING ANY IMPROVEMENTS NEAR THE STREET NEAR THE FRONTAGE, UH, THEY DON'T PLAN ON MAKING THESE, UH, IMPROVEMENTS TO THE, TO THE FRONTAGE.
ALSO, YOU SEE HERE IN THE PHOTO THERE ARE SEVERAL UTILITIES AND THE FRONTAGE THERE ARE POWER POLES, UM, UTILITY LOT UTILITIES, A MANHOLE.
SO IN ORDER TO REBUILD THAT SECTION OF THE FRONTAGE WOULD LIKELY REQUIRE SOME EXTENSIVE UTILITY RELOCATION.
SO THEY HAVE ASKED FOR AN EXCEPTION FOR THAT, THAT REQUIREMENT.
AND THEN FINALLY, FENCING IS NOT ALLOWED TO BE BETWEEN THE FRONT OF A BUILDING AND THE, IN THE PROPERTY LINE.
HOWEVER, THERE IS AN EXISTING FENCE THAT RUNS ALONG THE PERIMETER OF THE PROPERTY.
SO THIS WOULD ALLOW THAT TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE AND IT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO BUILD AN EVEN TALLER FENCE.
IT'S CURRENTLY A SIX FOOT TALL BROAD IRON FENCE, BUT THEY MAY REPLACE THAT WITH AN EIGHT FOOT TALL FENCE AT A LATER DATE.
IN SUMMARY, THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION VOTED SEVEN OH TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST.
WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY CORRESPONDENCE TO THE PUBLIC NOTICE.
AND FINALLY, CITY ACTION CITY COUNCIL MAY APPROVE THE FILE AS PRESENTED ALONG WITH THE ORDINANCE AS PRESENTED, APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS OR AMENDED CONDITIONS, OR DENIED THE REQUEST.
AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE WITH A SHORT PRESENTATION AS WELL.
ANY QUESTIONS TO STAFF? UH, COUNCIL MEMBER DWAYNE.
I KNOW THAT THIS IS THE SECOND TIME AND THIS, MONICA, WE'VE HAD, UM, SOMETHING COME TO OUR ATTENTION ABOUT WIDENING THE SIDEWALK WHERE THERE'S EXISTING POWER LINES AND, AND MANHOLE COVERS.
AND, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, WITH THE NEW REQUIREMENTS OF HAVING 12 FOOT FOOT SIDEWALKS, THAT CREATES, YOU KNOW, SOME UNITY THROUGHOUT THE CORRIDORS.
AND I, AND I DO LIKE THAT, I DO LIKE HAVING THAT CONSISTENCY, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT THE COST IS, UH, EXPENSIVE AND, AND WE'RE GOING TO BE COMING ACROSS THAT, UH, MORE AND MORE OFTEN AS, AS WE POWER THROUGH SOME OF THESE REDEVELOPMENT.
AND IS THERE ANY, UH, THOUGHT ON IF THAT POTENTIALLY WOULD JUST STAY THAT WAY AT FOR LONG TERM? OR ARE WE POTENTIALLY LOOKING AT THAT MAYBE, UH, MAYBE WIDENING THOSE AT A LATER DATE? POTENTIALLY MAYBE WITH A BOND ELECTION OF SOME SORT? 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I'M JUST LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, WE'LL TALK, WE'LL JUST USE, UH, WEST SPRING VALLEY FOR EXAMPLE.
YOU KNOW, HOW WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THAT AREA A LITTLE MORE ELEVATED, I'LL USE THAT WORD.
UM, AND WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE SOME CONSISTENCY WITH SIDEWALKS AND, AND I DO LIKE THE ENTRY FEATURE TO, UM, TO THAT ESTABLISHMENT.
SO IT DOES, IT DOES KEEP IT HIDDEN.
BUT, BUT AGAIN, THAT SIDEWALK AREA, I JUST WANNA KINDA GET SOME CLARIFICATION ON THAT.
I, UH, I THINK, YOU KNOW, AS WE, UM, AS WE ENVISION WITH WEST SPRING VALLEY, UM, THE CROSS SECTION THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO WOULD'VE BEEN, UM, FACILITATED REALLY THROUGH A COMPLETE REDEVELOPMENT.
I MEAN, A BIG, A BIG VISION IN WEST SPRING VALLEY WAS THE ASSEMBLY OF PROPERTY AND, UM, SIGNIFICANT REDEVELOPMENT OCCURRING.
UM, IN A SITUATION LIKE THIS, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, IT, IT IS, UM, EXTREMELY COMPLIC.
IT'S AN EXTREMELY COMPLICATED PROJECT FOR, AND AN EXTREMELY COSTLY PROJECT FOR A, A SMALL RETURN WHEN YOU, TO YOUR POINT WHEN THE REMAINDER, UM, OF THE SIDEWALK ALONG THE CORRIDOR ISN'T UPGRADED.
AND SO I THINK IT'S JUST A VALUE PROPOSITION FOR THE COUNCIL TO REALLY WORK THROUGH, UM, WITH RESPECT TO, UM, DO YOU, UH, TAKE THESE, UM, INDIVIDUAL, UM, SMALLER REDEVELOPMENT PROJECTS AND
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REQUIRE THEM TO MAKE THAT TYPE, THAT TYPE OF AN INVESTMENT.UM, BUT AGAIN, I THINK, I THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY THAT WHEN WEST SPRING VALLEY, UH, PD WAS, UH, BEING, BEING FURTHERED AND, AND THE TYPES OF CONSIDERATIONS, IT WAS REALLY INTENDED FOR THESE CROSS-SECTIONS TO BE FACILITATED THROUGH A SIGNIFICANT REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT.
UM, NOT THROUGH A, A PROJECT LIKE, LIKE, LIKE BEING LIKES BEING, UH, PROPOSED, UH, TONIGHT.
I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF BRING THAT TO OUR ATTENTION BECAUSE I MEAN'S SOMETHING WE'RE GONNA BE SURE.
I MEAN, WELL, AND, AND, AND I'LL GIVE YOU, I'LL GIVE YOU AN INDICATION.
I MEAN, WHEN WE DID THE WEST SPRING VALLEY ROAD PROJECT, UM, THE SIDEWALKS IN THE, THE CROSS SECTION, YOU KNOW, CURB CURVED BACK WAS NOT INCLUDED BECAUSE IT WAS COST PROHIBITIVE.
FOR THE, FOR US TO DO IT IN CONJUNCTION WITH DOW DALLAS COUNTY.
THAT'S HOW, UH, COMPLICATED THIS CORRIDOR IS.
UM, I MEAN, WE ALL DRIVE UP AND DOWN IT AND THE, THE AMOUNT OF UTILITY FRANCHISE UTILITY THAT'S IN THAT, UM, THAT RIGHT OF WAY, UM, IS JUST, IT'S JUST MIND BOGGLING.
AND THERE'S VERY, VERY LITTLE, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT AS BIG AS A LOT OF RIGHT OF WAY, UH, ON OUR MAJOR THOROUGHFARE CORRIDORS.
AND SO IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE A VERY COSTLY PROJECT, UM, WHEN IT'S FACILITATED.
AND I'LL JUST SAY, WE MAY WANT TO, YOU KNOW, AS WE POWER THROUGH SOME OF THESE THINGS, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THAT FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT AT, AT SOME POINT JUST IF WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE THAT VISION.
UM, MS. PETERS, I'VE GOT A FEW QUESTIONS.
UH, EASY ONE, THE FENCE, THEY'RE ASKING FOR AN EIGHT FOOT, IS THAT GONNA BE IN THE CURRENT LOCATION? BECAUSE I'M THINKING, AND, AND I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN DORIAN.
IT, IT'S SUCH A BEAUTIFUL ENTRANCE AND I THINK IT, IF IT'S NICELY IN THAT AREA, IF THEY DECIDE TO MOVE IT FORWARD TOWARDS THE SIDEWALK AND THEN THEY WANT AN EIGHT FOOT CONCRETE OR BRICK, THAT'S GONNA GIVE A DIFFERENT LOOK THAN IF THEY DON'T PUT AN EIGHT FOOT.
UM, SIMILAR TO WHAT THEY HAVE NOW, WHERE THEY'RE AT NOW, WHAT EXACTLY AND WHAT LIMITS THEM, WHAT IN THIS LIMITS THEM TO THAT OR? SO THE TYPICAL FENCE, A FENCE IS ALLOWED TO BE EIGHT FEET TALL AND IT CAN BE MADE OF, UH, CONCRETE BLOCKS, LIKE YOU MENTIONED, MASONRY COMPOSITE MATERIALS.
SO NOTHING HERE WOULD LIMIT THE TYPE OF MATERIALS OR THE LOCATION, UM, BEYOND WHAT'S THE EXISTING LOCATION.
UM, BUT DEREK, MY UNDERSTANDING WE CANNOT, IS THAT ACCURATE? BUT NO, IT'S, DEREK, I WANT MAYBE A POINT OF CLARIFICATION.
IF THE COUNSEL PREFERS, UH, THE R IRON FENCE AND NOT A MASONRY FENCE, COULD THEY MAKE THAT A CONDITION? THEY COULD.
I THINK THE APPLICANT HAS SPECIFICALLY CALLED OUT A, THE POTENTIAL FOR A COMPOSITE FENCE WITH SLATS TO PROVIDE MORE SECURITY, UM, WHICH IS TYPICALLY ALLOWED WHERE FENCES ARE ALLOWED.
SO THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THE APPLICANT COULD PROVIDE MORE DETAIL ON WITH THAT CONDITION.
AND WE'RE, AND WE'RE PROVING IT IN ITS CURRENT LOCATION OR UP NEAR THE SIDEWALK, NEAR THE MONUMENT SIGN IN THE CURRENT LOCATION ON THE CONCEPT PLAN.
THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT.
NEXT QUESTION, UH, IF SOMETHING LIKE, IF THIS GETS APPROVED, YOU KNOW, AND THEY CONTINUE TO GROW AND WE ADD A FEW MORE SINCE IT'S NON-CONFORMING, IF THEY, AND THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOREVER, SO I SEE NO REASON WHY THIS WOULD HAPPEN ANYTIME SOON, BUT LET'S SAY THIS CLOSES DOWN, THEY DECIDE TO SELL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WHAT CAN THAT BECOME? SO THAT CAN BECOME ANYTHING THAT'S ALLOWED IN THE WEST SPRING VALLEY CODE BY, RIGHT.
UM, YOU, WHY IS THIS CONSIDERED A, UM, WHAT DO WE CALL THIS NURSING FACILITY? MM-HMM
OR SENIOR LIVING VERSUS A SCHOOL, BECAUSE I THOUGHT I READ, THERE SEEMED TO BE THEY HAVE A NURSING SCHOOL ON CAMPUS.
LIKE WHAT MAKES THIS, AND IT SEEMED LIKE THEY HAVE A HIGH NUMBER OF STUDENTS AND STAFF THAT KIND OF THINK KIND OF OUTNUMBER THE ACTUAL PATIENTS THAT LIVE THERE.
WHY IS THIS NOT A SCHOOL LIKE WEST COAST OR SOMETHING LIKE SOME OTHER NURSING SCHOOL THAT WE HAVE IN TOWN? IT WAS OUR UNDERSTANDING THE, THE TRAINING ELEMENT IS ACCESSORY TO WHAT THEY PROVIDE ON SITE.
UM, VAR I THINK, IF YOU DON'T MIND, COULD YOU ADDRESS THAT TO THE APPLICANT? YES, NO PROBLEM.
BUT, BUT FROM A ZONING PERSPECTIVE MM-HMM
THE APPLICANT CAN'T ANSWER THAT.
I MEAN, PHILOSOPHY OR BUSINESS, I GET THAT.
BUT FROM A ZONING PERSPECTIVE, WHY WOULD THIS NOT BE CONSIDERED A SCHOOL? WELL, I THINK IF, IF IT IS, IF THE TEACHING ELEMENT IS AN ACCESSORY USE TO THE PRIMARY ELEMENT OF A RESIDENCE, THEN IT WOULD BE AN ACCESSORY USE.
AND THAT'S DETERMINED NOT BY NUMBERS, BUT BY, I GUESS THE INCOME.
LIKE WHAT GENERATES THE REVENUE OR NO, I DON'T THINK IT'S, I DON'T THINK, NO, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE THE INCOME.
UM, IT'S THE, IF THE PRIMARY USE OF THE RE IF THE PRIMARY USE OF THE PROPERTY IS TO OFFER RES RESIDENTIAL DIFFERENT TYPES OF RESIDENTIAL USES, THEN AND, AND THE TEACHING COMPONENT IS SECONDARY TO, TO PRIMARY PURPOSE OF OFFERING THE RESIDENCE.
THAT'S HOW WE WOULD DETERMINE.
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YEAH.UM, DEREK, YOU A COUPLE SLIDES.
I THINK IT WAS SLIDE, I THINK IT WAS WHAT SLIDE WHERE YOU SHOWED THE ELEVATION.
IT'S THE DESIGN OF THE BUILDING ITSELF.
THAT KIND OF LOOKS LIKE THAT ONE RIGHT THERE.
YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT THE TWO STORY ASPECT AND YOU SAID YOU CAN APPROVE IT ADMINISTRATIVELY.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT? WHAT YOU, 'CAUSE YOU KIND OF SAID IT FAST AND I WAS TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH THAT MEANT, AND I MISSED IT.
SO I, IN THE WEST SPRING VALLEY CODE, MOST BUILDINGS, IF NOT ALL, ARE REQUIRED TO BE TWO STORIES.
MOST NEW BUILDINGS ARE REQUIRED TO BE TWO STORIES AT MINIMUM.
UM, IN SOME SECTIONS OF THE CODE, THEY CANNOT REQUEST AN EXCEPTION THROUGH A MINOR MODIFICATION.
IN SOME SECTIONS OF THE CODE, THEY CAN MAKE THAT REQUEST.
IN THIS INSTANCE, FOR A DUPLEX, THEY CAN REQUEST A MINOR MODIFICATION TO ALLOW JUST A SINGLE STORY.
AND A MINOR MODIFICATION IS ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVED BY STAFF.
SO THAT, THAT WASN'T MENTIONED IN YOUR STAFF REPORT.
IT, IT MAY HAVE BEEN MENTIONED IN YOUR STAFF REPORT, BUT IT'S NOT INCLUDED AS A MAJOR MODIFICATION FOR YOU TO REVIEW.
UM, BECAUSE IT'S A MINOR MODIFICATION.
BUT THAT IS ANOTHER EXCEPTION THEY ARE REQUESTING.
AND THAT'S BASED ON WHAT THE BLOCK, THAT BLOCK THE CODE OR THE WEST SPRING VALLEY PLAN FOR THAT BLOCK IS MM-HMM
VERSUS FURTHER EAST OR FURTHER WEST.
THE RULE MAY APPLY DIFFERENTLY.
'CAUSE IT HAS A DIFFERENT SUB RULE.
THANK YOU FOR CLARIFICATION, COUNCIL MEMBER SSO.
I THINK IT'S PROBABLY MORE TOWARDS DAWN.
UH, YOU KNOW, WALKABILITY IS IMPORTANT, YOU KNOW, AND, UH, FOR THAT MEASURE ROAD LIKE THAT, WE DO NEED WIDER SIDEWALK.
BUT, UH, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, IF YOU TAKE OUT THAT OPTION FROM A CRITICAL LOCATION OF THE, BASICALLY YOU ARE JUST TAKING OUT EVERYTHING.
SO THAT'S WHY LIKE I WAS SO CRITICAL ON, UH, CHAIRMAN AND SPRING VALLEY LOCATION MM-HMM
BECAUSE YOU ARE TAKING OUT REALLY THE, THE HEART OF THE PIECE.
NOW, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHERE IT GOES AFTER THAT, IT'S LIKE USELESS SIDEWALK.
BUT YOU KNOW, TO BUILD A SIDEWALK, THERE ARE A FEW THINGS THAT YOU NEED.
SOMEDAY WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE LOTS OF MONEY, BUT IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE LAND, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO GET THE SIDEWALK THERE.
UH, UTILITY, YOU CAN RELOCATE THOSE IF YOU HAVE THE MONEY.
UH, IF YOU HAVE, UH, THE LAND, YOU CAN BUILD THE SIDEWALK SOMEDAY.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE LAND, IT'S GONE.
SO HOW DO YOU GET THE LAND? UH, IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY TO BUILD A SIDEWALK, IT DOESN'T MATTER.
WE CAN TALK ABOUT SIDEWALK, WE CAN TALK ABOUT LOTS OF STUDY, WE CAN TALK ABOUT LOTS OF NICE PICTURES IN THE, UH, ENVISION RESEARCH ON 2030 OR 2014 IN THE FUTURE.
BUT THOSE ARE ALL THE PAPER DOCUMENTS.
UH, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
SO IS MY, MY, MY QUESTION IS THAT, IS THERE ANY WAY, ANY MECHANISM THAT WE COULD GET THE LAND? UH, THIS QUESTION I ASKED YOU LAST TIME, BUT IT WAS NOT TOTALLY THE BIG PICTURE.
I WAS THINKING THAT IF WE GET THAT RIGHT AWAY, SAY ADDITIONAL 20 PIECE FOR THE SIDEWALK FROM THE LAND, BUT THAT WILL TRIGGER SOME OTHER THINGS.
THE SITE PLAN CONFORMITY OF THE, UH, BUILDING AND ALL THOSE, THOSE ARE GONNA BE HAPPENING.
BUT ALSO I DO KNOW THAT I DID SIGN A SIDEWALK EASEMENT WITH THE CITY FOR ANOTHER ORGAN, ANOTHER ORGANIZATION.
WE GAVE OUT SOME LAND, IT WAS THROUGH AN SIDEWALK EASEMENTS.
SO THAT DOES NOT REALLY TRIGGER THOSE SETBACK MECHANISM THAT IF YOU ARE NOT CLOSE, IF YOU'RE EVEN CLOSE TO THE SIDEWALK, YOU CAN HAVE YOUR BUILDING, UH, BECAUSE YOUR LAND IS ACTUALLY MUCH FARTHER.
SO IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD GET LIKE EASEMENT THROUGH THE, YOU KNOW, DURING THIS KIND OF PROCESS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE TO GIVE US SOME EASEMENTS FOR THE FUTURE IF WE DECIDE TO BUILD MAYBE A HUNDRED YEARS FROM NOW, WHO KNOWS, OR 50 YEARS FROM NOW, WE, WE COULD ASK FOR THE RIGHT OF WAY TO BE DEDICATED OR THAT FOR THEM TO COMMIT TO DEDICATING THE RIGHT OF WAY REQUIRED FOR THE EXPANSION.
I KNOW, BUT SOMETIMES IF YOU ASK FOR RIGHT AWAY, THAT MEANS THEY'RE TOTALLY GIVING OUT THE LAND.
I'M TALKING ABOUT LIKE EVEN SOME OTHER PROPERTY ALONG SPRING VALLEY, WHICH INCLUDES THE PROPERTY THAT WAS SHE AND SPRING VALLEY.
SO, UM, DE I DON'T KNOW IF, IF YOU WANT TO LET THE APPLICANT, UH, RESPOND TO THIS, BUT I THINK THEY ARE PREPARED TO OFFER UP A SIDEWALK EASEMENT IF IN IF, IF THAT BE WHAT REQUIRED TO GET, UH, APPROVAL.
BECAUSE IF WE, WE DON'T PLAN THOSE THINGS TODAY, I SURE I, YOU KNOW, WE CAN, WE CAN SAY NO, I WISH
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WE HAD THAT YEP.THIS KIND OF WISHING THINGS WE HIRED.
SO I THINK THE APPLICANT IS OPEN TO THAT.
TO DEDICATED AN EASEMENT, COUNCILMAN MCC CORCORAN.
MR. MAYOR, DOES STAFF HAVE ANY INSIGHT ONTO THAT APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT WAS APPROVED TO BE BUILT IN THE HUNTINGTON TOWN HOMES MM-HMM
AND IF THERE'S ANY YEAH, NO, IT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A VERY, IT'S A, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL APPROVED A VERY, UH, UH, VI MARKET VIABLE PROJECT PROJECT UNFORTUNATELY, UM, THE, THE PROJECT, UM, THE OWNERS HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET IT FUNDED.
IT'S A, IT'S A VERY, VERY CHALLENGING PROJECT FROM A FUNDING STANDPOINT.
UM, THE RESIDUAL LAND VALUE OF THAT, THAT TOWN HOME PROPERTY IS VERY HIGH.
WE'RE RECALL THERE WAS STRUCTURED PARKING MM-HMM
AND SO IT'S, IT'S A VERY DIFFICULT, UH, ECONOMIC, UH, PROBLEM THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SOLVE.
UM, BUT, UM, BUT I KNOW THEY'RE WORKING ON IT.
BUT IT'S, IT'S, IT'S THAT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN THERE, THERE ARE MANY, MANY, UM, MULTIFAMILY PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN, UH, APPROVED SUBSEQUENTLY AND BROKE GROUND.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S ACTUALLY A VERY, A VERY TYPICAL, UM, PROBLEM IN THE WEST SPRING VALLEY CORRIDOR.
I MEAN, A LOT OF THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE OPERATING TODAY ARE, UM, VERY CASH POSITIVE.
THEY ARE EXTREMELY, UM, PRODUCTIVE, UM, PRO, PRO MM-HMM
AND, UM, THE COST, UH, JUST TO GET IT BACK TO A GREENFIELD IS EXTREMELY HIGH AND DEVELOPERS ARE HAVING A HARD TIME FACTORING THAT COST.
UH, WHETHER IT'S ACQUISITION, ENVIRONMENTAL, DEMOLITION, ALL THOSE THINGS THAT JUST GET IT BACK TO A GREENFIELD.
UM, AND THOSE, THE PERFORMERS JUST ARE NOT PENCILING OUT.
UM, AND, UM, SO IT'S A, IT'S A CHALLENGE WHEN YOU HAVE, UH, PROPERTY THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE REDEVELOPED, BUT THAT PROPERTY IS A HIGH PERFORMING PROPERTY AS IS.
AND IS A, A REVENUE GENERATING PROPERTY LIKE THEY ARE.
IT'S, YEAH, IT'S TOUGH 'CAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, ONE, IF THERE WAS ANY CHANCE OF A BREAKTHROUGH THERE THAT COULD REALLY INFLUENCE THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PARCEL, BUT THEN AS WELL, THE FACTORS YOU JUST MENTIONED KIND OF MAKE YOU THINK THE REVERSE.
UM, SO THANK YOU FOR THE ANSWER.
I, IS THAT OTHER PROPERTY, UH, ADJACENT TO THIS ONE DIRECTLY TO THE EAST? OKAY.
YEAH, I THINK YOU'D SEE IT ON THE AREA.
ALRIGHT, IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF, UM, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND CALL THE, UH, APPLICANT UP TO PRESENT.
I'M WITH DONAWAY ASSOCIATES AT FIVE 50 BAILEY FORT WORTH, TEXAS 7 6 1 0 7.
UM, STAFF DID A GREAT JOB ON THEIR PRESENTATION.
THEY HIT ALL THE HIGH POINTS, SO I'M JUST GONNA KIND OF GO OVER AND KIND OF FILL IN SOME BLANKS.
UM, AGAIN, THE LEAVES IS A, UH, NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION, CHRISTIAN SCIENCE CAMPUS THAT HAS BEEN SERVING THE CITY OF RICHARDSON SINCE 1966.
UH, THE APPROXIMATE EIGHT ACRE CAMPUS IS ONE OF THE LARGEST PRIVATE DEVELOPED OPEN SPACE PROPERTIES WITHIN THE CITY OF RICHARDSON.
TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE CAMPUS, THESE ARE THE FACILITIES ON THE NORTHEAST, UH, PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.
AGAIN, THEY WERE BUILT IN 1966.
UH, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT, THE BUILDING ACTUALLY WON AN AWARD BY THE AMERICAN INSTITUTE OF ARCHITECTS IN 1968 FOR DESIGN.
HERE IS THE EXISTING TWO STORY, EIGHT UNIT MULTIFAMILY THAT SERVES AS, UH, RESIDENTS FOR, UH, MAINTENANCE STAFF AND ONSITE NURSING.
ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT, THAT IS THE BUILDING THAT IS REFERRED TO AS THE LODGE.
AND RIGHT NOW THAT IS SENIOR LIVING, BUT PART OF THIS PROJECT, IT'LL BE RENOVATED AND USED FOR, UH, NURSE TRAINING.
RIGHT HERE AGAIN, IS JUST THE EXISTING CONDITIONS AND THE PROPOSED LAYOUT RIGHT HERE.
AND YOU CAN SEE THE 3D RENDERING OF THE SITE.
UH, EACH UNIT WILL COME WITH, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY A BEDROOM, A BATHROOM, A KITCHEN, AND A STUDY.
THEY'RE APPROXIMATELY 15 FEET IN HEIGHT.
WE ARE ASKING FOR MODIFICATIONS, UM, BUT WE'RE REQUESTING THESE MODIFICATIONS TO THE COLONEL PD TO HELP RETAIN AS MUCH AS THE EXISTING OPEN SPACE AS POSSIBLE AND REDUCE ANY UNNECESSARY IMPERVIOUS AREA REGARDS TO PARKING OR ANY TYPE OF STRUCTURES AS GARAGES.
UH, WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE A SECLUDED WALKABLE SENIOR CAMPUS.
HERE'S SOME MORE EXAMPLES OF THE OPEN SPACE IN THE CAMPUS.
JUST KIND OF GIVE YOU AN IDEA.
UM, THESE NEXT FEW SIDES ARE THE PROXIMITY, WHERE
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THE UNIT WILL GO.AND WITH, UH, THE VIEWS TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTY.
AS YOU SEE, IT'S ON THE FAR EAST INTO THAT VIEW.
C IS LOOKING AT THAT APARTMENT COMPLEX.
THERE IS AN EXISTING EIGHT FOOT CYCLONE FENCE WITH SLATS IN IT RIGHT NOW.
SO BETWEEN THAT, THE EXISTING FOLIAGE, AS YOU CAN SEE IN VIEW B, IT VERY MUCH SCREENS THE PROPERTY FROM THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORS.
HERE'S THE ONE, UH, THE ONE ALONG THE WESTERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY THAT'S ADJACENT TO THE, UH, DRAINAGE, UH, THE BIG DRAINAGE BASIN AND THE FLOODWAY EASEMENT.
AS YOU CAN SEE, VIEW A IS LOOKING DIRECTLY AT THE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
IT'S APPROXIMATELY 200, 225 FEET AWAY.
SO YOU CAN SEE ALL THE VEGETATION SCREENS IT COMPLETELY.
IT'S, IT'S CENTRALIZED AND GREEN ADJACENT TO THE EXISTING MULTI-FAMILY UNIT.
AND AGAIN, HERE IS THE, HERE IS THE PICTURE.
I KNOW THE, THE SIDEWALK CONDITIONS CAME UP.
AS YOU CAN SEE RIGHT HERE ON THE RIGHT, YOU CAN SEE THE CONDUIT THAT FEEDS THE PROPERTY.
THE ELECTRICITY ON THE LEFT OF THE SIDEWALK.
YOU SEE THE EXISTING WATER, UH, WATER VALVE.
AND THAT MANHOLE IS ACTUALLY A FIBER OPTIC MANHOLE.
AND YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A 60 FOOT UTILITY EASEMENT ALONG THE FRONT.
AND THERE'S A PICTURE OF THAT DRAINAGE BASIN.
AND RIGHT HERE YOU CAN SEE THAT WAS JUST THE CROSS SECTION BASED ON THE CODE AND WHERE IT WOULD'VE TO FIT WITHIN THAT, THAT SECTION.
AND AGAIN, UM, I GO BACK TO THE SIDEWALK, THE CITY IN 2017, 2018 PURCHASED THAT PROPERTY FROM THE LEAVES.
SO WE'RE ACTUALLY RE PLATTING THIS RIGHT NOW.
SO THAT SIDEWALK IS ACTUALLY OWNED WITHIN THE, IT'S IN THE CITY RIGHT AWAY.
AND RIGHT HERE, THIS IS THE EXISTING PARKING, THE, WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TREE ISLANDS WAS ALONG THE BACK FENCE.
RIGHT NOW THERE'S AN EXISTING EIGHT FOOT WOOD FENCE WITH ALREADY EXISTING FOLIAGE.
THERE'S AN ALLEY BETWEEN THAT FENCE AND THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAINTAIN ALL THAT SINCE THE MAIN FACILITIES ARE IN THAT NORTHEASTERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY, THAT'S WHERE THE MA MOST OF THE PARKING HAPPENS.
SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAINTAIN AS, AS MUCH AS THE PARKING WE CAN IN THAT LOCATION.
ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL MEMBER? DORIAN.
THANK YOU FOR, UH, CLARIFYING SOME OF THOSE THINGS.
I, I, UH, I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS.
ONE, I JUST WANNA SAY, FIRST OF ALL, THIS IS A VERY SOUGHT OUT, UH, AREA.
I MEAN, IT'S A VERY UNIQUE, UH, AND SORT OF, I WANT TO CALL IT MORE BOUTIQUE STYLE ARRANGEMENT.
AND, AND I DO LIKE SOME OF THE, UH, BUILDINGS AND I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF STICKING TO SOME OF THE MID-CENTURY VIBE OF ARCHITECTURE.
UM, AND TO THAT POINT, I WANTED TO, UH, CLARIFY AND ALSO ASK ABOUT THE BACK OVER TO THE FENCING AGAIN.
'CAUSE I KNOW THAT, UH, COUNCILMAN BARRIOS ASKED ABOUT THAT.
BUT I, I WAS ALSO GOING TO ASK YOU AS WELL ON I'M, I'M, I'M FINE WITH IT.
I, I THINK THAT JUST ADDS A LITTLE MORE VALUE TO THE FACILITY AND ON THE BACKSIDE IT DOES BACK UP TO RESIDENTIAL.
UM, BUT WOULD YOU CONSIDER, SINCE YOU ARE CREATING THIS SORT OF MID-CENTURY VIBE, THIS ARCHITECTURAL INTEREST OF MAYBE DOING SOME TYPE OF BREEZE, BREEZE BLOCKS OR SOMETHING, A LITTLE MORE ARCHITECTURAL, CONSIDERING YOU ARE GONNA SEE IT FROM THAT OTHER SIDE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND ARCHITECTURALLY SPEAKING, UH, IT COULD CREATE SOME NICE, UM, INTERIOR, UH, OR WELL JUST AN INTERIOR OR DESIGN FEATURE AND ALSO ALLOW, UH, MOVEMENT, AIR MOVEMENT THROUGHOUT THE PROPERTY.
SO THE, THE TOP PICTURES, WHAT THEY'RE, WHAT THEY'RE WANTING TO PUT IN, AND THE BOTTOM PICTURES THAT EXISTING, UH, KIND OF THE WHITE FENCE ALONG THE WESTERN CORNER OF THAT PROPERTY, THAT'S BY THOSE TOWN HOMES.
BUT THE TOP ONE IS WHAT THEY'RE ANTICIPATING OR WANTING TO PUT IN AT EIGHT FOOT LIKE THAT.
AND, AND IT WOULD BE THE BOARD ON BOARD? YES, SIR.
SO IT, IT THAT'S MORE REPRESENTATIVE.
I'M JUST TRYING TO SEE HOW MORE, HOW, HOW, HOW, HOW MUCH MORE WE CAN, YOU KNOW, ELEVATE IT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
ESPECIALLY SINCE THERE IS A NEIGHBORHOOD BEHIND THERE AND THEY'RE GONNA SEE THAT, UH, I MEAN, YOU CAN'T SEE ANYTHING IN THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS NICE.
I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S WELL, UM, ESTABLISHED AND THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, FOLIAGE.
UM, YOU MENTIONED ALSO THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR THE SIDEWALK.
UH, OF COURSE THE CITY OWNS THE CURRENT SIDEWALK, THE FIVE FOOT SIDEWALK.
ARE YOU, ARE YOU SAYING THAT THE, THE NEW PLAT THAT THAT WE HAVE MORE, WE OWN MORE OF THAT SIDEWALK? YEAH.
SO RIGHT NOW, IF YOU LOOK, LOOK, LEMME GO BACK TO THE SIDE PLAN HERE.
YOU SEE AT THE VERY BOTTOM WHERE SPRING VALLEY IS THAT THAT PROPERTY LINE JUST GOES STRAIGHT ON THAT GRAPHIC RIGHT THERE.
THE REPL ACTUALLY KIND OF MEANDERS IN THERE BECAUSE WHEN THEY BUILT THAT SIDEWALK IN 2018, THEY IN INCORPORATE, THEY BOUGHT THAT, THAT RIGHT OF WAY
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AREA FROM THE LEAVES, THEY PURCHASED THAT.SO THAT WILL BE ON THE REPL THAT, SO WHAT, WHAT'S THE, UH, THE, THE WIDTH OF THAT? I DON'T KNOW RIGHT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
WILL THEY ACCOMMODATE A 12 MINIMUM? I, I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T, I I CAN'T ANSWER THAT, BUT I, I KNOW IT'S IN THAT, SO THERE MIGHT HAVE TO BE AN ADDITIONAL EASEMENT GOING THROUGH THERE.
BUT I, I CAN'T, I DON'T KNOW RIGHT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD THAT WITH, YOU KNOW, SO I, I DON'T, WE DON'T SEEM TO HAVE A DOCUMENT HANDY HERE THAT, UH, CONFIRMS THAT THAT IS CITY PROPERTY.
IT, I, I VAGUELY REMEMBER WHEN WE WERE RECONSTRUCTING, UH, WEST SPRING VALLEY AND WE DID THE, THE TWO BRIDGES OVER I THINK COTTONWOOD HU BRANCH.
I THINK, UM, I DO BELIEVE, UM, I DO BELIEVE WE, WE GOT INTO SOME PRETTY, UM, DETAILED RECONSTRUCTION OF THE EMBANKMENT UNDER THE BRIDGE AS WELL.
AND SO IT'S POSSIBLE, UM, THAT IT, THAT SIDEWALK IS PART OF THAT REBUILD.
UM, FROM, UM, FROM THE BRIDGE WORK THAT WAS DONE.
IT WASN'T, WE DIDN'T DO IT ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE CORRIDOR, THE SIDEWALK IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE, UM, UM, WITH THE WEST SPRING VALLEY PROJECT.
I THINK IT WAS MOSTLY WHERE IT NEEDED TO BE REPLACED.
BUT I, I, I DON'T KNOW, UH, I WE'RE LOOKING TO TRY TO SEE IF WE CAN FIND SOMETHING THAT SAYS WE ACTUALLY OWN THAT RATHER THAN IT'S JUST A, SOMETHING THAT WAS DEDICATED.
BUT, AND IF WE DON'T, I WOULD LIKE TO GET YES TO CONSIDER THAT AS, UH, AN EASEMENT RIGHT AWAY.
UM, DUE TO THE FACT THAT TO ALL, MOST OF OUR COMMENTS HERE, UH, WE CERTAINLY THINK THAT, THAT THE SIDEWALK WILL NEED TO BE WIDENED.
AND, AND MY GUESS, MY BEST GUESS IS WHY THAT WASN'T WIDENED TO THE FULL WIDTH IS BECAUSE OF THAT FIBER OPTIC OH YEAH.
SO LET ME JUST ASK A POINT OF CLARIFICATION.
THIS MAY HELP WITH EVERYTHING.
ARE YOU, UH, AGREEABLE TO DEDICATING A SIDEWALK EASEMENT? WE HAVE A UTILITY EASEMENT, RIGHT? SO ARE YOU AGREEABLE TO DEDICATING A SIDEWALK EASEMENT? MY NAME'S JENNIFER JOHNSON.
I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE LEAVES, AND WE'RE AT 1230 WEST SPRING VALLEY ROAD IN RICHARDSON, TEXAS.
AND YES, I THINK WE WOULD BE OKAY.
AND THAT WOULD BE AT, WE'D HAVE TO DETERMINE WHAT WIDTH THAT WOULD BE? YES.
AND YOU, THAT WOULD BE COORDINATED WITH THE CITY YES.
UM, MY OTHER QUESTION IS, UM, COUPLE OTHER POINTS THAT I WAS THINKING, I THINK THEY ALSO GOT MENTIONED EARLIER IS IN THE EVENT THAT THIS PROJECT GETS ABANDONED IN THE FUTURE, 'CAUSE UH, GENERALLY NOTHING LASTS FOREVER, BUT, UM, LET'S HOPE IT DOES, BUT IN THE EVENT IT DOESN'T, UM, I KNOW PART OF OUR ENVISION OF RICHARDSON AND I, YOU KNOW, I DID BRING THIS LITTLE DIAGRAM HERE TODAY TO SHOW THE DIFFERENT, UH, USES OF THAT SPACE.
AND RIGHT NOW, THE WAY THE BUILDINGS ARE DESIGNED, IT REALLY APPEARS THAT WE WOULD ONLY BE ABLE TO MOVE WITH A COMBINATION OF BUNGALOWS, DUPLEXES, SORT OF COURTYARD STYLE, UM, DEVELOPMENT.
UNLESS SOMEONE CAME IN THERE AND COMPLETELY REDEVELOPED THE, YOU KNOW, TORE EVERYTHING DOWN AND REDEVELOP IT.
BUT THOSE BUILDINGS ARE ACTUALLY NICE LOOKING, AT LEAST I THINK THEY ARE.
AND UM, I WOULD'VE LIKED TO HAVE SEEN THOSE TWO STORY.
UM, BUT THE STORY AND A HALF WITH THE CLAIRE STORY WINDOWS ARE, ARE ATTRACTIVE, UM, DEPENDING ON THE MATERIALS YOU'RE USING.
AND AGAIN, IT'S GONNA BE SENIOR LIVING.
SO THE SECOND STORY IS, YEAH, AND I, AGAIN, AGAIN, I TOTALLY GET THAT.
AND IN THE FUTURE, IF THAT WAS TO GET REDEVELOPED, THEY COULD CERTAINLY ADD ONTO THAT AS THEY NEEDED TO.
UM, AND BACK OVER TO THE OTHER QUESTION ABOUT THE SCHOOL N THE NURSING ON SITE VERSUS, UM, THE CARE FOR THE PATIENTS.
HOW MANY PATIENTS DO YOU, UH, PLAN ON HAVING IN THIS FACILITY AFTER IT'S COMPLETELY DONE.
AND HOW MANY NURSES ARE ON SITE? THEY, AND THEY LIVE ON SITE, CORRECT? NOT ALL OF THEM LIVE ON SITE, BUT SOME OF THEM DO LIVE ON SITE.
AND THAT'S JUST HELPFUL FOR US, HONESTLY.
UM, HAVE YOU SEEN SOME OF TEXAS WEATHER
UM, BUT YES, I THINK WE HAVE EIGHT APARTMENTS IN THE TWO STORY, UM, BUILDING.
AND SO THAT, THAT COULD BE EIGHT STAFF MEMBERS THERE.
HOW MANY, SO YOU HAVE, YOU CAN HAVE, UH, EIGHT STAFF MEMBERS THAT LIVE ON ONSITE FOR 24 HOUR CARE IF NECESSARY FOR 20 PEOPLE, RIGHT.
THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE FOR NOW.
AND THANK YOU FOR WILLING TO PUT THAT ADDITIONAL, YOU KNOW, UH, SPACE FOR THE FUTURE SIDEWALK.
BUT IT LOOKS LIKE ALSO YOU WOULD, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO DO MUCH THERE ANYWAY BECAUSE OF SOME OTHER EASEMENTS THAT'S ALREADY DEDICATED TO TXU AND OTHERS, I BELIEVE.
RIGHT? YOU COULD PUT SIDEWALK IN THAT TXU.
SO I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S THERE.
UH, NOW, YOU KNOW, THE PROPERTY LOOKS REALLY GREAT.
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PLANNING LOOKS REALLY GREAT.UM, UH, NOW WITH THAT, THIS, YOU KNOW, IF THAT'S, THIS GETS APPROVED, UH, YOU KNOW, HOW LONG THIS WILL REALLY SATISFY YOUR DEMAND, LIKE NEED, ARE YOU GONNA BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, GO WITH THIS PLAN FOR THE FUTURE OR YOU DO HAVE PLAN TO EXPAND IN THE FUTURE MORE? SAY RIGHT NOW, THIS IS ALL WHAT WE'RE PLANNING TO DO AT THE MOMENT, YOU DON'T THINK YOU'RE GONNA BE NEEDING MORE HOUSING? UH, MAYBE IN THE FUTURE? I DON'T THINK MORE HOUSING? NO, NOT MORE HOUSING.
COUNCIL MEMBER CORCORAN, JUST AS A, UM, NOT A QUESTION, BUT AS JUST SOMETHING TO MAYBE HELP, UH, COUNCILMAN DORIAN ANSWER ONE OF HIS QUESTIONS.
I KNOW ON, ON SLIDE TWO, IF YOU REALLY ZOOM INTO THE, TO THE GRAPHIC THERE, YOU CAN SEE THE OVERLAPPING BLUE LINE WITH ACTUALLY THE YELLOW LINE AND YOU CAN REALLY KIND OF SEE WHERE, UM, I GUESS THAT SIDEWALK CUTS OFF AND IT, IT MATCHES UP WITH THIS SLIDE PRETTY, PRETTY NEATLY ON THAT RIGHT HAND GRAPHIC.
I DUNNO IF THAT DORIAN COUNCILOR DORIAN, I DUNNO IF THAT HELPS OR NOT.
AND I, AND, AND THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I WAS TRYING TO GET SOME CLARIFICATION ON THE WIDTH THAT YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO ALLOW THE CITY TO ACCUMULATE.
UH, WELL, ONE QUICK FEEDBACK ABOUT THE FENCE.
I HAVE NO PROBLEM WHAT YOU WANNA DO AROUND, I, I'M A LITTLE HUNG UP ABOUT PUTTING, IF YOU DECIDE WHETHER IT'S A, UH, TO BE HONEST, I LIKE THE, WHAT YOU HAVE NOW, IF YOU WANTED TO GO HIRE THE SIMILAR MATERIAL, I'D HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT IF YOU DECIDE TO GO CONCRETE OR SOMETHING.
THAT'S, SO I'M, I'M A LITTLE HESITANT ON THAT.
UH, I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, UH, ALONG THE LINES OF WHAT COUNCILMAN DORIAN WAS ASKING ABOUT NURSES.
SO YOU CURRENTLY HAVE EIGHT NURSES ON PROPERTY AND IT, HOW, AND YOU, HOW MANY, HOW MANY, UM, PATIENTS DO YOU CURRENTLY HAVE AND WHAT ARE YOU, YOU'RE EXPECTED TO GO UP TO 20? UH, WE COULD, WE COULD HOUSE, HOUSE AROUND 20 AND CURRENTLY WE COULD HOUSE AROUND 20 CURRENTLY.
UM, BUT IT'S BASED ON OUR STAFFING LEVELS FOR IT ALL THE TIME.
SO I CAN'T, I CAN'T TELL YOU EXACTLY
YEAH, BUT DOES IT, I GUESS THOSE NUMBERS GO UP AND DOWN QUITE A BIT AS, I MEAN, WELL, SO, YOU KNOW, YOU ASKED ABOUT, UH, KIND OF THE TRAINING AND THAT SORT OF THING.
SO WE HOLD TWO CLASSES A YEAR AND MAYBE WE HAVE THREE OR FOUR STUDENTS IN A CLASS.
AND SOME OF THEM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE THE CLOSEST CHRISTIAN SCIENCE NURSING FACILITY FOR SEVEN STATES.
SO SOME OF THOSE COULD COME FROM OUT OF STATE TO COME AND TAKE THAT CLASS AND THEN GO BACK HOME IN ORDER TO, UM, GIVE CARE IN THEIR HOME STATE.
SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY LIKE THAT WE'RE HUGE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT BECAUSE, UM, BECAUSE OF OUR RELIGIOUS AND ALL OF THAT, WE'RE JUST THE CLOSEST ONE FOR THAT.
SO ARE THESE STUDENTS COMING IN FOR LIKE A WEEK, TWO WEEKS? ARE THEY COMING IN FOR LIKE A EIGHT MONTH? I, I MEAN, I, I'M SO CLASS, I READ A LITTLE, I DON'T KNOW A LOT ABOUT YOUR FAITH CLASSES, BUT I READ ONE MONTH LONG.
AND THEN THEY, THEY GO BACK AND THEY GET MENTORING AND THAT.
UM, THE BUILDINGS AND THAT YOU SAID ONE OF THE BUILDINGS THAT YOU CURRENTLY HOUSE STAFF OR RESIDENTS IN, YOU'RE BASICALLY GONNA MOVE THOSE RESIDENTS TO THE NEWER BUILDINGS SO THAT OLDER BIG LODGE IS BECOMING MORE EDUCATIONAL OR, OR STAFF HOUSING.
YEAH, THE LODGE IS IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT.
THAT IS GONNA BECOME A NURSE TRAINING CENTER JUST STRICTLY.
SO NOW HOUSES, I THINK THREE CLASSROOMS AND HOUSING MIX OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND SEE IF THERE ARE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS.
I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS, MAYOR.
ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE LOOKING TO COMMENT? OKAY.
SEEING NONE, COUNCIL, UH, MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHIN, I'D MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ALRIGHT, WE'VE GOT A MOTION COUNCIL MEMBER DORIAN.
WE'VE GOT A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHIN, SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER DORIAN, ALL IN FAVOR? ALL OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT.
SO LOVE TO HAVE SOME COUNCIL DISCUSSION.
I I, I'VE GOT A FEW COMMENTS MYSELF, BUT I, I GUESS I'LL GIVE YOU GUYS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK IF THERE'S ANY THOUGHTS ABOUT THE CASE.
SO, YOU KNOW, MY, MY CONCERN PARTLY IS, UM, SAME CONCERN THAT WAS VOICED EARLIER ABOUT, UM, CASH FLOW OF SO MANY OF THESE DIFFERENT NON-CONFORMING USES.
UM, THEY, IF WE ADD A BUNCH MORE BUILDINGS AND WE KIND OF CONTINUE
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THIS PATH THAT GOES AGAINST, UH, WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE SPRING VALLEY STUDY, UH, IT MAKES IT TO WHERE THIS PARTICULAR PLOT NEVER REALLY HAS MUCH OF A SHOT AT BEING ABLE TO BE, UH, SOMETHING THAT WAS ENVISIONED AS A PART OF THE SPRING VALLEY STUDY.UM, AND THEN ASIDE FROM NOT BEING ABLE TO GET THAT, WE'RE ALSO, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, NOT GETTING THE SIDEWALK.
SO WE'RE BOTH NOT GETTING THE PLAN THAT WE WANTED AND WE'RE NOT GETTING THE THROUGHPUT SIDEWALK WISE.
AND FOR THE MOST PART, FOR THOSE REASONS, I'M NOT REAL COMFORTABLE WITH THIS PARTICULAR, UM, UH, THIS PARTICULAR, UH, REQUEST.
UM, SO JUST WANTED TO KIND OF PUT THAT OUT THERE.
BUT COUNCIL MEMBER, DORIAN, I SEE YOU'VE GOT YOUR LIGHT ON.
I JUST, AND I JUST WANNA ADD TO THE CONVERSATION, OUR DISCUSSION.
UM, YOU KNOW, I, I'M LOOKING AT IT A COUPLE DIFFERENT WAYS.
YES, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THIS AS A DEVELOPMENT SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DISCUSSED A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO WITH THE ADJACENT, UM, LAND.
UM, BUT THE ONE SIDE, THE ONE OTHER SIDE I'M LOOKING AT IS THEY ALREADY HAVE SOME INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S ON THE SCREEN NOW.
AND, AND THIS IS PART OF OUR ENVISION PLAN OF CREATING THIS COURTYARD, UH, HOUSING.
AND I, YOU KNOW, I JUST, AGAIN, I JUST PUT THIS OUT SO EVERYBODY ON THE CAMERA COULD SEE THIS.
BUT THIS SHOWS, UH, A COMBINATION OF WHAT A COMMUNITY COULD LOOK LIKE POTENTIALLY WITH THEM COMING IN AND BUILDING SOME ADDITIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE.
WE NOW AT LEAST HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY IF SOMETHING WERE TO NOT WORK OUT, WE COULD GO IN AND POTENTIALLY LOOK AT, THIS COULD BE A COURTYARD STYLE HOUSING WITH A COMBINATION OF DUPLEXES OR FOURPLEXES OR HOWEVER IT GET PUT TOGETHER AS, AS A COMPOUND, WE'LL CALL IT, UH, A RESIDENTIAL COMPOUND.
SO I'M KIND OF LOOKING AT IT FROM THAT STANDPOINT AS WELL AS LIKE THEY'RE WILLING TO COME IN AND BUILD THIS, UH, WITH OR WITHOUT THE SIDEWALK AT THE MOMENT, EVEN THOUGH I, I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU, I WELCOME THE 12 FOOT SIDEWALK.
WE NEED TO START CREATING THOSE NOW IN ORDER TO CREATE THE VISION THAT WE WANT FOR RICHARDSON.
AND THAT MEANS ALL OF RICHARDSON.
SO I JUST WANNA PUT THAT OUT THERE BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS A VERY UNIQUE AREA AND IT POTENTIALLY COULD LEAN TOWARD THAT ENVISION NOW EVEN WITHOUT ANY NEW BUILDINGS.
IF SOMEONE WERE TO COME IN THERE AND PURCHASE THE PROPERTY AND REDEVELOP IT AND TURN IT INTO MORE OF THIS, UH, ENVISION.
SO LET ME JUST ADD THAT TO THE COMPLAINT, RIGHT.
UM, I DON'T HAVE TOO MUCH OF AN ISSUE WITH THE BUILDINGS PER SE.
IT'S A BEAUTIFUL CAMPUS OR COMPOUND.
UM, AND THEY'VE DONE GREAT WORK THERE.
UH, I, I LOOKED AT THEIR WEBSITE.
SEEMS LIKE AT THE PRICES THAT THEY, THE RESIDENTS PAY, IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY HAVE GOOD REVENUE STREAM.
SO I DON'T THINK THIS IS GOING TO WEIGH ANYTIME SOON.
OBVIOUSLY THERE, THEY'RE A FAITH-BASED NON NONPROFIT, SO, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE GOT THE TAX BREAKS AND THAT KIND OF STUFF, UH, THAT GO ALONG TO HELP THEM SUCCEED, JUST LIKE ANY OTHER FAITH-BASED ORGANIZATION WOULD HAVE.
UM, I DON'T SEE 'EM GOING AWAY.
TO ME IT'S MORE, I I DO STRUGGLE WITH THE FACT THAT IT'S SUCH A HIGH, SUCH A HEAVY EDUCATIONAL USE.
I'M KIND OF STRUGGLING WITH THAT PIECE, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
UM, I'M DEFINITELY, IF THIS WERE TO PASS, UH, AND IF THE COUNCIL LEANS TOWARDS I'M, I, I'M A LITTLE HESITANT BECAUSE OF THE USE AND THE EDUCATIONAL PIECE IN ALL HONESTY.
BUT IF THE COUNCIL, IF I WERE TO BE CONVINCED THE OTHER WAY, OR IF THE COUNCIL WOULD BE LEANING TO PAST THIS, MY BIGGEST CONCERN, UM, THAT I WOULD STAND IS I JUST DO NOT LIKE THE IDEA OF CHANGING THAT FRONT FENCE TO ANYTHING ELSE.
I THINK WHEN YOU CHANGE THE FRONT, FRONT FENCE TO ANYTHING SOLID, UM, THAT YOU COMPLETELY CHANGE THAT LOOK AND FEEL OF ANY DEVELOPMENT GOING ON AROUND IT.
AND I THINK IT CHANGES THE SPIRIT OF THAT.
UM, AND THAT'S JUST KIND OF A, I GUESS THE NEEDLE THAT BROKE MY BACK ON THAT ONE, UH, WAS THAT FRONT THEN.
SO, UM, I'M LEANING TOWARDS A NO, BUT I, I'M CURIOUS TO HEAR WHAT OTHERS THINK.
I KNOW THEY'RE, YOU'RE ASKING FOR A MAJOR MODIFICATION, BUT THE INTENT FOR THIS SUB-DISTRICT WAS INCLUDED SENIOR ORIENTED HOUSING.
UM, I THINK THAT THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE HERE.
AND THEN OUR ENVISION RICHARDSON PLAN, AS COUNCILMAN DORIAN HAS POINTED OUT, IS COMPACT RESIDENTIAL HOUSING.
UM, WE'RE MEETING BOTH OF THOSE IN SOME WAYS HERE.
IT'S NOT ALL THE WAY, WE'RE NOT REDEVELOPING THIS INTO A BUNCH OF TOWN HOMES OR, YOU KNOW, ALREADY INTO BUNGALOW HOMES.
BUT I THINK THAT THIS ACTUALLY MEETS THE INTENTION OF THE SUB-DISTRICT E UH, AND, UH, IN SOME WAYS THE, THE COMPACT RESIDENTIAL PLACE TYPE THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR,
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UH, IN THE ENVISION RICHARDSON PLAN.UM, SO, YOU KNOW, I, IT MEETS THE SPIRIT FROM MY PERSPECTIVE.
UM, YOU KNOW, COUNCILMAN BARRIOS, IF YOU'RE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE EDUCATION, I DON'T KNOW IF, YOU KNOW, IT DIDN'T SOUND LIKE IT WAS EXTENSIVE, BUT IF YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT IT GETTING OUTTA CONTROL, PERHAPS WE COULD PUT LIMITS ON THAT.
YOU KNOW, WE COULD, YOU KNOW, ONLY HAVE FOUR PEOPLE EDUCATED AT ANY ONE TIME IF YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT TRAFFIC OR, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I DON'T, I GUESS I DON'T UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN ABOUT THE EDUCATIONAL COMPONENT, BUT IF IT'S TRAFFIC OR THAT IT'S BIG TO BECOME THE MAIN USE OF THE PROPERTY OR SOMETHING, PERHAPS WE COULD PUT SOMETHING IN PLACE TO ADDRESS YOUR CONCERN.
UM, AND THEN I GUESS I WOULD BE CURIOUS FROM THE APPLICANT WHETHER THEY WOULD, UM, YOU KNOW, BE WILLING TO LEAVE THE FENCE AS IS OR REPLACE IT WITH WROUGHT IRON, UM, TO ADDRESS THAT CONCERN.
BUT AS IS, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS PROJECT.
UM, IT HAS BEEN OPERATING LIKE THIS FOR A LONG TIME.
UM, AND I THINK THAT IT'S OKAY TO ADD A FEW MORE HOUSES THAT MEETS THE, THE, THE INTENT OF THE SUB-DISTRICT AND ENVISION RICHARDSON COUNCILMAN BARS.
DO YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND CLARIFY? YEAH, I JUST WANNA CLARIFY.
THE PAR THE, THE TRAFFIC IS DEFINITELY NOT A CONCERN OF MINE.
I MEAN, IT'S SPRING VALLEY, RIGHT?
THE INTENT AND USE OF IT, I FEEL HAS BECOME MORE EDUCATIONAL OR IS THEY NEED MORE EDUCATIONAL AND THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY CONCERN.
BUT AGAIN, THAT'S NOT A STICKING POINT.
UH, CAN I FINISH THE THOUGHT? YEAH, YEAH.
APPRECIATE THE NO INTERRUPTION.
UH, THE, IT'S NOT A STICKING POINT FOR ME.
ALRIGHT, MAYOR PROAM, I, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY COUNCILMAN BAREZ, DON'T GET CAUGHT UP ON NURSING, DON'T GET CAUGHT UP ON EDUCATION.
THIS IS NOWHERE NEAR A WEST COAST, A COLLIN COLLEGE.
THIS IS BRINGING SOMEONE IN, TEACHING THEM FOR A MONTH.
SO YOU'RE BASICALLY TEACHING THEM, IT'S NOT, NURSING IS A VERY LARGE DEFINED WORD, IF YOU WILL.
THIS IS REALLY TEACHING SOMEONE TO BASICALLY BE A VERY, UM, MY WORDS, AND I MEAN, NO DISRESPECT, BUT A VERY BASIC CAREGIVER IS WHAT THEY ARE.
SO TO JUST BASICALLY DO, UM, UH, WHAT'S CALLED ADLS, UM, WHICH IS, UM, YOUR BASIC, YOU KNOW, HELP THE PERSON GET UP IN THE MORNING, BRUSH THEIR TEETH, HELP THEM GET BATHED, HELP THEM GET CLEANED UP.
IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT NURSING LIKE WHAT YOU'RE THINKING, I THINK FROM LIKE
IT'S YOU, YOU'RE AT A VERY, VERY BASIC IN ONE MONTH YOU'RE TEACHING VERY, VERY BASIC.
I, I DID A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH ON THIS TODAY.
'CAUSE WHEN I HEARD NURSING, I WAS LIKE, WAIT A MINUTE.
I'VE NEVER, YOU KNOW, BEEN IN THIS COMMUNITY A LONG TIME AND I, SO I, I DID A LOT OF RESEARCH.
AND SO I JUST WANNA BE VERY CLARIFIED.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE REALLY JUST TEACHING THEIR STAFF HOW TO CARE FOR THEIR RESIDENTS IN THE CHRISTIAN SCIENTIST WAY, WHICH IS ALSO, AND A NOT A, AND AGAIN, NO DISRESPECT, JUST IT'S NOT A, NOT IT'S A, IT'S A, MY WORDS NON-TRADITIONAL TYPE OF OF CARE.
UM, SO IT'S RE IT'S AT A VERY, VERY, VERY BASIC LEVEL.
SO YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE LIKE ALL OF A SUDDEN, YOU KNOW, 50, 60 PEOPLE COMING IN THERE TO BE TRAINED.
UM, SO THAT'S WHY IT, IT, I THINK THAT'S WHY ORIGINALLY THE ORIGINAL, THE WHOLE ORIGINAL THOUGHT WAS, IS IT'S VERY MUCH A SENIOR CARE AREA.
UM, I'M JUST TRYING TO HELP PROVIDE INFORMATION.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, I'M, I I'LL JUST SAY I'M, I'M VERY MUCH LIKE A COUNCILWOMAN JUSTICE.
I THINK THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN THERE.
I, I THINK, YOU KNOW, I, I HEAR WHAT EVERYBODY WANTS ON THESE SIDEWALKS, BUT IF YOU GO BACK, IF YOU COULD GO BACK FOR JUST A MOMENT, DOES ANYBODY HAVE A CLICKER? NOBODY HAS A CLICKER.
UM, I THINK WE'RE AT SOME POINT GONNA HAVE TO SIT DOWN BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF PLACES WHERE WE'VE GOT SIGNIFICANT UTILITIES IN THE WAY OF WHAT'S ENVISIONED, WHICH I GET, I'M NOT, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THAT BY ANY IMAGINATION.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK IN ORDER TO TRY AND PUT IN, IF YOU GO BACK FOR JUST A MOMENT, WHERE'S THAT ONE SLIDE, THAT ONE RIGHT THERE.
I MEAN, I, YOU THERE, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, WITH YOU'RE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT FIBER OPTICS, THAT'S INCREDIBLY EXTENSIVE.
THE, THE, WHERE THE UTILITIES ARE, THE POWER CON CONDUITS COMING IN.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT ENCORE WOULD, BUT AT SOME POINT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION.
'CAUSE WE'RE CONTINUING TO SEE THESE TYPE OF, ESPECIALLY ON PLACES LIKE SPRING VALLEY WHERE THERE ARE NO UNDERGROUND, AND I KNOW HOW EXPENSIVE WE, WE TALKED ABOUT IT WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT MAIN STREET, HOW EXPENSIVE.
IT'S TO TRY AND RUN UTILITIES UNDERGROUND.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE COULD PROBABLY BURN UP AN ENTIRE BOND PROGRAM TRYING TO GET, TRYING TO GET SOME OF THESE SIDEWALKS IN.
SO I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE GONNA DEAL WITH IT.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, WAY TOO EXPENSIVE.
THE OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO MENTION IS, IS, IS IF YOU, IF I SAW IN HERE, AND IT WAS ALSO MENTIONED, THIS IS ALL GONNA BE DONE BASED ON DONATIONS.
SO THEY'RE NOT GOING OUT AND RAISING CAPITAL.
SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE THEIR, UM, PRO FORMA REQUIREMENTS ARE, I HATE TO SAY, ARE BASICALLY NOT THERE, BUT THEY'RE NOT THERE BECAUSE THEY ARE RECEIVING DONATIONS.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS YOU, KURT, I'M SORRY, I DON'T REMEMBER WHO SAID WHO, YOU KNOW, WAS CONCERNED ABOUT.
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IT, IF IT, IF THEY, THEY DID NOT, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THIS DID, DID NOT FOOT OUT, IT, IT, OH, IT IS, YEAH.IT'S, IT'S ALL BASED ON DONATIONS IF, IF BASED ON WHAT THEY SUBMITTED TO US.
SO I'M, I'M, UM, I'M, I'M IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THIS.
I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN THERE.
I THINK THEY'VE HAD A, THEY'VE GOT A GOOD TRACK RECORD, UM, OF WHAT THEY'VE BEEN CARING FOR.
SO I I, I WOULD BE SUPPORTING THIS THIS EVENING.
UH, YEAH, I MEAN THIS, THIS HAS LOTS OF POSITIVE THINGS ALREADY IN IT.
UH, YOU KNOW, WE NEED THIS KIND OF SERVICES AND THIS KIND OF TRAINING ALSO NEEDED.
AND THEY'VE BEEN PROVIDING THAT, UH, VERY EFFECTIVELY, UH, FOR MANY YEARS AND MAINTAINING THE PROPERTY ALSO.
SO, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE ALL, ALL GOOD.
EVEN THE STRUCTURES THEY HAVE THERE INSIDE, THEY COULD BE EVEN PUTTING MORE DENSE, YOU KNOW, HOUSING THERE.
BUT, BUT WITH THAT, IT STILL, I THINK IT LOOKS REALLY GREAT.
I THINK THIS WILL BE ANYTHING, IF ANYTHING HAPPENED ALONG SPRING VALLEY, THIS WILL ADD TO THE VALUE WHAT THEY HAVE.
WE HAVE 30% GREEN SPACE THERE ALREADY DEDICATED AS A LANDSCAPE.
UH, YOU KNOW, WE COULD PUT LOTS OF TOWN HOMES, BUT THAT WILL TAKE OUT LANDSCAPE THAT, YOU KNOW, FROM 10, YOU KNOW, TOO MINIMUM TO 10%.
SO, UH, WITH THE TREES AND ALL THESE BEAUTIFUL TREES THEY HAVE THERE, THEY, THEY'RE GONNA BE MAINTAINING ALL THOSE.
SO THOSE ARE REALLY GOOD THINGS.
AND REGARDING THE SIDEWALK, THIS, THIS AREA LOOKS LIKE IT, IT HAS THE TX EO EASEMENTS, THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING IN THIS SPACE.
SO ADDING SIDEWALK INTO THAT, IT'S NOT REALLY TAKING OUT FROM THEM ANYTHING.
SO THIS IS, THIS WOULD BE EASY, EASY THINGS IF IT WAS NOT ALREADY BOUGHT BY THE CITY.
UH, BECAUSE IF IT IS BOUGHT BY THE CITY, YOU CAN'T JUST REPLAY WITHOUT TAKING THOSE DOCUMENT OUT.
SO, UH, AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I WOULD NOT DO ENGINEERING DESIGN HERE SITTING AND TELLING THAT THIS IS GONNA BE EXPENSIVE TO DO BECAUSE RELOCATING THE UTILITY WOULD BE EXPENSIVE.
I MEAN, THIS IS, THIS IS THE JOB OF ENGINEERS TO DO THINGS, THESE THINGS IN THE REAL FIELD.
YOU DON'T PUT A SIDEWALK TRADITIONAL WAY.
IT COULD BE DESIGNING THE SIDEWALK MANY OTHER WAY WITHOUT RELOCATING ANY OF THE UTILITY.
AND THAT HAS HAPPENED MANY OTHER PLACES.
SO I WOULD NOT EVEN GO TRY TO SAY, OKAY, THIS IS GONNA BE EXPENSIVE.
WHEN WE DON'T, IT'LL NEVER BUILD.
SO I WOULD NOT JUST, THIS PROJECT, THE, THE REASON I'M SAYING THIS THING FOR ANY OTHER NEW, ANY, ANY OTHER NEW REQUEST COMES IN, WE HAVE TO BE MINDFUL THAT OUR JOB IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE TRY TO DO WHATEVER WE CAN DO AS COUNCIL MEMBER HERE, UH, LEAVING THEM THE LAND FOR THE FUTURE DESIGN OR CONSTRUCTION, NOT TAKING AWAY THE OPTION.
SO, AND IF THE COST DOES NOT ALLOW, IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
BUT IF COST ALLOW IN THE FUTURE, UH, AND THAT DESIGN ALLOW, BECAUSE SIDEWALK, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE LIKE TRADITIONAL SIDEWALK NEXT TO THE CAR, IT COULD BE MANY OTHER WAY, IT CAN GO EVEN FURTHER INSIDE.
SO I WOULD PUT THAT, YOU KNOW, CONDITION THAT ALLOWING THE SIDEWALK EASEMENTS AND APPROVE THAT AS IS.
I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE A GOOD THING FOR THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER.
YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M IN, I'M IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT.
I JUST, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, WE'RE IRONING OUT SOME OF THE DETAILS NOW BECAUSE FIRST OF ALL, IN THE EVENT THIS COMPOUND OR FACILITY CHANGES IN THE FUTURE AND DOES BECOME MORE OF A RESIDENTIAL ENVIRONMENT, UM, THOSE ARE SOME PRETTY NICE PLACES TO LIVE IN A VERY KIND OF WHAT I'M GONNA CALL A LITTLE BOUTIQUE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WHICH COULD CERTAINLY ELEVATE THIS AREA OF SPRING VALLEY.
SO I THINK, UH, THERE'S TWO, ONE A COUPLE THINGS.
ONE, I LOOK AT THE, UH, NURSING ISSUE AS NOT AN ISSUE BECAUSE I LOOK AT THAT AS LIKE TAKING US A CONTINUING EDUCATION COURSE TO COME AND GET TRAINING AND MOVE ON.
SO I DON'T SEE THAT AS A BIG ISSUE.
AND PLUS WE'RE ONLY TALKING 20 PATIENTS AND EIGHT, UH, NURSES.
SO THAT DOESN'T BOTHER ME THE SIDEWALK.
I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO MOVE IT RIGHT NOW, BUT I WOULD WANT THE CITY TO HAVE ACCESS AND AN AGREEMENT DRAWN UP TO WHERE WE HAVE ACCESS THAT IN THE VIEW IN, UH, IN THE EVENT THAT, UH, ON A FUTURE BOND OR PROGRAM, WHATEVER WE'RE GONNA END UP DOING IN THE FUTURE.
'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA COME ACROSS THIS AND EVERYWHERE IN THE CITY THAT THIS IS AN ISSUE.
UM, AND AS LONG AS WE KNOW THAT, THEN IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN ADDRESS LATER.
UM, AND THE THIRD THING, MOST IMPORTANTLY, SINCE THIS IS POTENTIALLY COULD, WOULD BE CONSIDERED MORE OF A BOUTIQUE RESIDENTIAL ENVIRONMENT IN THE FUTURE, THEN YES, I WOULD CERTAINLY LIKE TO SEE A MORE ENCLOSED, UH, UH, LET'S SAY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION TYPE STYLE.
AND THAT WOULD NOT BE A ROT IRON FENCE.
I WOULD LIKE IT TO BE ENCLOSED.
I DO LIKE THE, UH, THE SYNTHETIC, UH, COMPOSITE FENCE, UH, ALTHOUGH I WOULD LIKE THE CONCRETE BLOCK, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT'S A LOT MORE COSTLY.
BUT I DO LIKE IT WHAT THEY'VE SHOWN HERE.
IF THEY COULD MOVE THAT DIRECTION, I WOULD BE IN
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SUPPORT OF THAT.IT WOULD BE AT LEAST ENCLOSED THE FACILITY AND MAKE IT LOOK A LITTLE MORE, A LITTLE MORE UPPER END.
SO THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS AND I AM IN SUPPORT OF THANK YOU.
I, YOU KNOW, I'M TRYING TO, I'M KIND OF TRYING TO CONTRAST A VOTE APPROVING SOMETHING LIKE THIS WITH MAYBE MY VOTE, UM, AGAINST LIKE THE CLAY COOLEY FACILITY, UH, BACK IN, IN URBAN AREA.
AND, AND JUST KIND OF TRY TO THINK ABOUT SOME OF YOUR COMMENTS, COMMENTS, MR. MAYOR, UM, ON THIS, THIS CASE AND THE, THE PREVIOUS CASE WE HAD REALLY CLOSE TO THIS.
UM, YOU KNOW, I GUESS I'M LOOKING AT THE MAP AND, YOU KNOW, I, I KIND OF HAVE A HARD TIME RECONCILING HOW A, SO LIKE A, IF SOME, IF SOMEONE WERE TO COME IN AND BUY THIS WHOLE PARCEL AND MAKE LIKE THIS HUGE CATALYTIC REDEVELOPMENT ON THIS PARCEL, HOW IT WOULD MAYBE IN, AGAIN, CONTRASTING TO SAY SOMETHING LIKE CLAY COOLEY AND IN URBAN, HOW IT WOULD MEANINGFULLY BE CONNECTED IN LIKE THIS WALKABLE WAY TO REDEVELOPMENT IN THE PROPERTY ADJACENT TO IT.
JUST 'CAUSE YOU HAVE THAT SORT OF LIKE A SUBSTATION, UM, THE ELECTRIC SUBSTATION THERE, YOU HAVE THAT PARKS OPEN SPACE THERE, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU HAVE THAT HUGE, YOU KNOW, SPRING VALLEY LIKE COUNCILMAN BARRIO SAID IS SO BUSY.
I MEAN, ANY REDEVELOPMENT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET WOULD NOT REALLY BE EASILY WALKABLE.
AND SO I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, DO WE, IS THIS THE KIND OF THING THAT SAYS, HEY, WE DON'T WANT YOU TO MAKE ANY IMPROVEMENTS TO THIS PROPERTY BECAUSE WE WANT SOMETHING ELSE TO GO THERE.
OR DO WE SAY, HEY, THESE, THESE IMPROVEMENTS, I MEAN, AT THE END OF THE DAY, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO THEY DO? THEY HELP YOU TO PERPETUATE YOUR BUSINESS, BUT THEY DON'T REALLY GET IN THE WAY OF THIS, YOU KNOW, SOME SORT OF LIKE MAJOR DEMOLITION FOR SOMETHING ELSE IN THE FUTURE IN THE SAME WAY THAT SAY A COMPACT THING LIKE THE HUNTINGTON TOWN HOMES NEARBY DOES.
AND THEN I ALSO THINK ABOUT THE, THE CONVERSE THING OF LIKE, HEY, WHAT DO WE EVEN WANT THAT, I MEAN, IT DOES BACK UP RIGHT TO A NEIGHBORHOOD.
I MEAN, I'M THINKING I'M IN SUPPORT OF IT JUST BECAUSE I DON'T SEE THIS AS SORT OF LIKE THIS HUGE, UM, IT'S LIKE THIS HUGE INVESTMENT OF A BUNCH OF LIKE SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTIES THAT ARE GONNA MAKE THIS REALLY DIFFICULT TO REDEVELOP IN THE FUTURE IF THAT OPPORTUNITY COMES AROUND.
AND SO, AND I'M, I'M IN SUPPORT OF IT FOR THAT REASON.
SO, UM, MY LAST COMMENT WOULD JUST BE, UM, I, I AGREE WITH YOU ACTUALLY.
IT, IT IS NOT GONNA BE, IN MY OPINION, DEVASTATING TO OTHER DEVELOPMENT, UH, YOU KNOW, RELATIVE TO THE CASE THAT YOU MENTIONED.
UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK, I THINK THIS DOESN'T HAVE THAT KIND OF MAJOR DETRIMENTAL IMPACT, UM, THE SIDEWALKS.
I CAN ALSO EVEN GET REASONABLE AS IT RELATES TO THAT PIECE OF IT.
I DO THINK WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT ALSO THE FENCING ELEMENT TO ME, AND I GET, I GET THE BOUTIQUES THOUGHT PROCESS, BUT, UH, BUT THERE'S ALSO KIND OF THIS OPENNESS, UH, ELEMENT THAT COMES, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF FENCING.
AND SO FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, YOU KNOW, IF I WOULD WANNA MAKE THIS ANY BETTER MM-HMM
UM, I WOULD AT LEAST LIKE TO SEE SOME RESTRICTION ON THE FENCING MM-HMM
UM, AND THEN THE ONLY THING THAT WOULD MAKE IT ANY BETTER THAN THAT IS THE SIDEWALK.
AND I THINK THAT I, I THINK I'M TENDING TO AGREE WITH ALL THE COMMENTS I'VE HEARD ABOUT THAT BEING JUST A BIT UNFAIR AND QUITE EXPENSIVE IN THIS POTENTIALLY EXPENSIVE, UH, IN THIS, UH, IN THIS PARTICULAR SPACE.
SO I'D BE INCLINED TO ALSO VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS IF, IF FENCING ELEMENT WASN'T AN ISSUE.
UM, BUT THE THOUGHT OF IT BECOMING A CLOSED OFF, IT'S ALREADY SET BACK.
SO IF ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S ALSO CLOSED OFF TO ME, IT JUST REALLY STARTS TO CREATE THIS LESS CONNECTED TO THE REST OF THE, UM, UH, OF THE AREA.
AND, AND TO ME THAT'S JUST NOT IN KEEPING WITH MM-HMM
YOU KNOW, WITH WHAT THE GOAL WAS.
SO I DON'T DISAGREE THAT THE FENCING IS NOT IDEAL.
CAN YOU CLARIFY YOUR COMMENT ABOUT FENCING? ARE YOU IN AGREEMENT WITH WHAT I MEANT? OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING DIFFERENT? WHAT WAS YOUR CONCERN ABOUT THE, IF, IF, IF, BECAUSE MINE WAS JUST THE FRONT PART, I WASN'T SURE.
IF STAFF COULD KIND OF, UH, CLARIFY IF YOU DON'T MIND.
UM, JUST AGAIN, AS IT RELATES TO THE FENCING, UM, THERE WAS AN ELEMENT OF THE FENCING THAT WAS NOT, UH, UH, IN ACCORDANCE WITH KIND OF THE SPRING VALLEY, UH, STUDY AND, AND AND PD.
BUT IF YOU COULD MAYBE DESCRIBE, AND THAT'S THE LOCATION OF THE FENCE.
YOU CAN'T HAVE A FENCE BETWEEN THE BUILDING WALL AND THE FRONT, RIGHT.
SO, SO IT'S THE LOCATION FROM GO AHEAD.
IT'S MAINLY RELATED TO THE LOCATION AND THERE IS A FENCE THERE TODAY.
BUT, BUT THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST IS TO ALLOW THEM TO REBUILD REPLACE IT, YES.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE PROBLEM.
I HAVE POSSIBLY A COMPOSITE FENCE.
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HERE CAN I ADD TO THIS, AND I AGREE TO YOUR POINT AND LET ME MAKE SOME CLARIFICATION ON THE FENCE.FIRST OF ALL, SINCE THERE IS AN EXISTING FENCE AND IT IS WR IRON AND YOU CAN SEE THROUGH IT.
AND IN THE FUTURE, THIS POTENTIALLY COULD BE A MORE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OR HOA AND I, UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE DIAGRAM, AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT SLIDE THIS IS ON, UM, THERE IS THE PLAT VIEW, UM, RIGHT.
WELL THERE'S ONE THAT WAS LIKE A
SO FIRST OF ALL, THERE'S A CREEK BED THAT RUNS WHERE THE 45 OR 60 DEGREE ANGLE IS THERE BY THE, UH, ENCORE MM-HMM
UH, ESTABLISHMENT AND THAT CREEK LINE ALONG WHERE THE UPWARD PART IS AND ALONG THE BACKSIDE THAT'S CREEK.
SO, AND I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S FENCED AT THE MOMENT OR NOT.
I POTENTIALLY SINCE SIT, FIRST OF ALL, THERE ARE NO NEIGHBORS ON THAT SIDE AND IT IS A CREEK LOT.
I WOULD ALMOST BE FOR ALLOWING THAT TO BE WROUGHT IRON AND KEEP IT OPEN.
AND SO YOU CAN LOOK AT THE TREES AND VIEW THE CREEK.
AND THEN IN THE BACKSIDE WHERE THE RESIDENTIAL PART IS AND THE CUL-DE-SAC, I WOULD BE WILLING TO SAY GO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE BOARD ON BOARD FENCE THERE AND ALONG THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, BECAUSE BOTH OF THOSE ARE RESIDENTIAL AND YOU DON'T REALLY WANT TO BE LOOKING INTO THOSE APARTMENTS.
OR LOOKING INTO THE RESIDENCE BEHIND THERE.
NOW THE FRONT, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S JUST A GATED, UH, UNIT AND THEN THAT I WOULD SAY EVEN THAT, EVEN THOUGH YOU CAN'T SEE IT, AND I DROVE BY IT TODAY, BY THE WAY MM-HMM
YOU CANNOT EVEN SEE THE FENCE UNLESS YOU DRIVE INTO THE CORRIDOR OR THE, UH, THE ENTRY.
I WOULD SAY IF THEY HAD TO REPLACE THAT FIFTH, REPLACE IT WITH WROUGHT IRON.
SO THREE AREAS WOULD BE WROUGHT IRON AND THE BACK AND THE RIGHT HAND SIDE WOULD BE AN ENCLOSED BOARD ON BOARD BECAUSE THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY ONE, ELEVATE THE AREA, KEEP IT PRIVATE AGAINST THE RESIDENCE AND THE APARTMENTS, BUT ALSO ALLOW YOU TO SEE THROUGH, UH, TO THE TREES OF THE CREEK AND THE FRONT THERE.
SO TO CLARIFY, MY OBJECTION IS JUST THE ENTRYWAY FENCE, UH, UH, HAVING IT BECOME ANYTHING MORE THAN WHAT IT IS TODAY OR ANYTHING MORE SUBSTANTIVE THAN IT IS TODAY.
JUST KEEP IT OPEN, KEEP IT WROUGHT IRON.
AND ON THE TWO SIDES RIGHT THERE WHERE THE CREEK BED IS, THERE'S THREE LINES RIGHT THERE.
MAYOR
YOU HAVE SENIOR CITIZENS IN HERE.
NUMBER ONE IS THEY HAVE A TENDENCY AS THEY GET OLDER TO WANDER.
SO I THINK WHERE THE APPLICANT'S COMING FROM IS THEY WANT, EXCUSE ME, A SECURE SITE SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE, GOD FORBID ONE OF THE RESIDENTS AMBLE OUT INTO THE MIDDLE OF SPRING VALLEY AND GET RUN OVER.
SO I THINK THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S THE CONCERN IS THE SAFETY AND SECURITY PIECE.
SO I, I THINK, EXCUSE ME, I APOLOGIZE.
TRYING TO LISTEN TO EVERYTHING WITH THAT IN MIND MAYOR, IF WE, IF WE SAID IF THEY KEPT, AND AGAIN, 'CAUSE I, I DROVE IT AS WELL.
IT'S A WROUGHT IRON PIECE TODAY I THINK.
IS IT, IS IT SIX FEET TODAY? IS THAT RIGHT? SIX FEET.
SO, AND, AND I THINK THEY PROBABLY WANNA GO UP TO EIGHT FEET FROM A SECURITY STANDPOINT IF WE SAID AND EIGHT FOOT WROUGHT IRON THAT WAY, IT'S THE BEST OF BOTH WORLD THAT PROVIDES THEM SECURITY AND DOESN'T ALLOW ANYONE, ANY OF THEIR RESIDENTS TO WANDER.
'CAUSE AGAIN, SENIORS WANDER, ESPECIALLY IF THEY START TO MOVE INTO DEMENTIA ALZHEIMER'S, WHICH I WOULD DARE BET GIVING THAT THEY HAVE AN INPATIENT OUTPATIENT FACILITY, THEY HAVE THAT.
UM, SO, SO WOULD THAT BE AN ACCEPTABLE, WOULD THAT BE ACCEPTABLE TO EVERYBODY IF WE JUST SIMPLY SAID IT WOULD BE WROUGHT IRON ACROSS THE FRONT AND AND THE SIDE AND THE SIDE AND THEN DO A SOLID WOOD COMPOSITE ON THE BACK? THAT WOULD I THINK WOULD BE A NICE MEDIUM GROUND.
WOULD THAT BE A MEDIUM GROUND THAT EVERYBODY COULD LIVE WITH? YEAH.
I THINK I DEFINITELY OKAY WITH THAT.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I SAID EARLIER.
MY ONLY HANGOUT WAS THE FRONT, SO.
SO WITH THAT, IF THERE'S NO OTHER, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? UH, I WOULD PUT THE SIDEWALK ON THAT WITH THAT FUTURE, YOU KNOW, ACCESS.
OH, THE, THE ACCESS OPTION FOR EACH ONE IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING NEED TO HELP WITH THE WORDING AT SIDEWALK IS YEAH, WE DO SOME HELP REPORTING I THINK SO.
SO, SO I DON'T KNOW IF, I'M SORRY.
THE APPLICANT WAS KIND OF LIKE WE CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I DON'T KNOW IF SHE'S AT YOU'RE YEAH, IF YOU DON'T MIND GOING UP BACK UP TO THE, SO I JUST WANNA SAY THAT THERE IS QUITE A BIT OF HOMELESS ACTIVITY IN THAT CREEK BED AND SO HAVING IT NOT BE SEE-THROUGH WOULD BE GREAT BECAUSE THEY TEND TO WANT TO COME OVER INTO OUR NICE PARK LIKE ATMOSPHERE.
AND I FIGURED THAT'S WHAT THE REASON WAS, WHICH IS WHY I DIDN'T MENTION THE, I I SO COULD YOU, SO I THINK, I THINK YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE THAT THAT'S HELPFUL IF, AND THERE IS AND THAT BE ADDRESSED SEPARATELY.
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FRONT AS WRT IRON AND THE REST AS YOUR COMPOSITE WOULD, I MEAN WE STILL WOULD EVERYBODY THAT STILL HOP THE FRONT, WE STILL HAVE PEOPLE HOP THE FRONT.AND BACK YOU GO UP TO EIGHT FOOT IF YOU WENT UP TO EIGHT FOOT.
SO IF WE WENT UP TO EIGHT FOOT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HOPING AND JUST TO CREATE IT SO THAT, AND DO THE ROD IRON PEOPLE DON'T REALLY WANNA SEE THROUGH TO SEE LIKE, OH, WHAT'S OVER THERE.
IT'S SOMETHING PRETTIER THAN WHAT'S OUT HERE.
THANK YOU FOR THE FRONT ROD IRON.
THANK SO EVERYBODY, I'M OKAY WITH THAT.
EVERYBODY COMFORTABLE? DAN, YOU COMFORTABLE WITH THAT? MM-HMM
MAYOR, ARE YOU READY FOR A MOTION? YEP.
AND I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE PUBLIC HEARING ZONING FILE 25 DASH 12 WITH THE FOLLOWING MODIFICATIONS.
AN EIGHT ALLOWANCE FOR AN EIGHT FOOT ROD IRON FENCE, WR IRON FENCE IN THE FRONT WITH THE REMAINING TO BE COMPOSITE WOOD, UM, CONSTRUCTION AND A AND A, UM, WHAT DO WE CALL IT? APPROXIMATELY 22 FOOT SIDEWALK EASEMENT, APPROXIMATELY AN APPROXIMATELY 22 FOOT SIDEWALK.
DID I CAPTURE EVERYTHING? YES.
THEN WE'VE GOT A MOTION COUNCIL MEMBER, DORIAN.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALRIGHT.
ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[9. PUBLIC HEARING, ZONING FILE 25-14, AND CONSIDER ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF RICHARDSON, TEXAS, AMENDING THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE AND ZONING MAP OF THE CITY OF RICHARDSON, AS HERETOFORE AMENDED, BY GRANTING A CHANGE IN ZONING BY GRANTING SPECIAL PERMIT WITH SPECIAL CONDTIONS FOR A SMOKING ESTABLISHMENT FOR AN OUTDOOR PATIO IN CONJUNCTION WITH A RESTAURANT AT 2100 ALAMO ROAD, RICHARDSON, TEXAS, ZONED PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR THE LR-M(2) LOCAL RETAIL DISTRICT.]
WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER NINE, WHICH IS A PUBLIC HEARING ZONING FILE 25 DASH 14.UH, CONSIDER ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE AND ZONING MAP BY GRANTING A CHANGE IN ZONING BY GRANTING SPECIAL PERMIT WITH SPECIAL CONDITIONS FOR A SMOKING ESTABLISHMENT FOR AN OUTDOOR PATIO IN CONJUNCTION WITH A RESTAURANT AT 2100 ALAMO ROAD.
DEREK IS GONNA TAKE US THROUGH THE TECHNICAL ASPECTS OF THIS CASE AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE, UH, TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED HERE ON THE EAST SIDE OF ALAMO DRIVE, WEST OF US 75 NORTH OF CAMPBELL ROAD.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS ZONED PD PLAN DEVELOPMENT FOR LOCAL RETAIL TOO.
AND THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL PERMIT FOR A SMOKING ESTABLISHMENT IN CONJUNCTION WITH A RESTAURANT.
THE PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH HAS BEEN DEVELOPED WITH A BOWLING ALLEY TO THE EAST ARE SOME RETAIL AND RESTAURANTS ALONG THE CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY FRONTAGE.
AND THEN TO THE SOUTH AND TO THE WEST IS ADDITIONAL RETAIL.
AND TO THE WEST IS A LARGER RETAIL COMMERCIAL SHOPPING CENTER.
SO HERE'S SOME SITE PHOTOS OF THE SITE.
SO THIS WAS FORMERLY OCCUPIED BY THE PPAS RESTAURANT.
SO THEY INSTALLED THESE UNIQUE, THIS UNIQUE THATCH ROOF, UM, TO THE PATIO THAT YOU SEE HERE.
UM, THIS IS A 1300 SQUARE FOOT PATIO THAT IS CONNECTED TO THE RESTAURANT PUS VACATED IN 2022 AND EARLY THIS YEAR IN 2025, THE NAY RESTAURANT RECEIVED AN OAA CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY AND THEY OCCUPIED THE BUILDING AND MADE SOME, UM, INTERNAL IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PATIO AND TO THE RESTAURANT.
SO THEY OCCUPIED THE BUILDING WITH THE INTENT OF, UH, PROVIDING A FULL SERVICE RESTAURANT, PROVIDING COFFEE CAFE TYPE OF SNACKS AND TO PROVIDE HOOKAH ON THE PATIO.
HERE'S ANOTHER VIEW OF THE RESTAURANT.
WITH THE PATIO TO THE RIGHT, THE, THE, UH, SUITE SPACE ITSELF IS WITHIN A MULTI-TENANT SHOPPING CENTER.
THE, THE MULTI-TENANT RETAIL BUILDING IS 24, IS 27,000 SQUARE FEET.
THE SUITE SPACE ITSELF IS 3000 SQUARE FEET.
THE BUILDING IS A SINGLE STORY BUILDING AND THERE ARE 143 PARKING SPACES PROVIDED ON SITE IN TOTAL HOURS OF OPERATION FOR THE RESTAURANT.
AND HOOK HOOKAH CAFE ARE PROPOSED TO BE 10:00 AM THROUGH MIDNIGHT, SUNDAYS THROUGH THURSDAY AND 10:00 AM THROUGH 2:00 AM FRIDAYS AND SATURDAYS.
AND HERE IS A ZOOMED IN VIEW OF THE PATIO ITSELF.
SO THE CITY'S CODE DOES, UH, REGULATE SMOKING ON PATIOS.
UH, IF SMOKING IS OCCURRING ON A PATIO, IT MUST BE OUTSIDE OF 10 FEET WITH, OF THE DOOR OR OF WINDOWS.
SO THE PATIO, UH, IS APPROXIMATELY 1300 SQUARE FEET.
AND WITH THIS ESTIMATE THAT OF OMITTING THOSE 10 FOOT AREAS, THOSE 10 FOOT BUFFERS BY THE DOOR, THERE'S ABOUT 900 SQUARE FEET OF PATIO SPACE LEFT THAT COULD ACCOMMODATE THE SMOKING.
THE APPLICANT THINKS THIS IS ABOUT FOUR TABLES THAT COULD BE ACCOMMODATED.
UM, SO THIS IS THE NORTH SIDE OF THE RESTAURANT.
UM, THE DOOR, THE ENTRANCE DOOR TO THE RESTAURANT IS LOCATED ON THE FRONT SIDE.
UM, HERE IN THE PATIO SECTION.
HERE'S SOME BACKGROUND ON SMOKING ESTABLISHMENTS.
IT WAS IN 2011 THAT THE CITY ADOPTED A DEFINITION FOR SMOKING ESTABLISHMENT AND AMENDED THE CODE TO REQUIRE A SPECIAL PERMIT FOR A SMOKING ESTABLISHMENT.
IT WAS DEFINED AT THAT TIME AND TODAY IS CONSIDERED A BUSINESS ESTABLISHMENT
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THAT IS DEDICATED IN WHOLE OR IN PART TO PROVIDING TAC TOBACCO OR ANOTHER SUBSTANCE ON SITE AND ALLOWING THE SMOKING OF THAT SUBSTANCE ON SITE.SO ONE IS TO ALLOW THE PAYMENT OF THE SUBSTANCE OR OF THE TOBACCO.
AND THEN TWO IS TO ALLOW THE SMOKING ON SITE AT THAT ESTABLISHMENT.
THIS, THIS IS A LIST OF SEVEN OF THE EXISTING NON-CONFORMING HOOKAH BARS OR HOOKAH LOUNGES THAT WERE OPEN AT THAT TIME IN 2011 WHEN THAT, UM, AMENDMENT PASSED.
UM, SO THESE ARE CONSIDERED LEGAL NON-CONFORMING.
THEY DO NOT HAVE A SPECIAL PERMIT.
AND THEN ON THE BOTTOM TABLE IS A LIST OF FOUR BUSINESSES THAT DO HAVE A SPECIAL PERMIT.
THE FIRST THREE WERE LEGAL NONCONFORMING IN 2011.
THEY WERE OPEN PRIOR TO THE UH, CODE AMENDMENT, HOWEVER THEY CHANGED LOCATIONS AND BY RELOCATING THEY WERE REQUIRED TO GET A SPECIAL PERMIT.
AND THEN NUMBER FOUR ON HERE IS THE, UM, LATEST ONE APPROVED AND THAT WAS IN 2022.
AND THAT WAS FOR A NEW LOCATION OR THAT WAS FOR A NEW ESTABLISHMENT.
AND THIS IS A MAP OF THOSE 11 ESTABLISHMENTS THAT ARE OPEN RIGHT NOW.
UM, THAT'S A MIX OF, THERE'S A COUPLE CIGAR LOUNGES THAT YOU SAW ON THE TABLE, THEN A COUPLE HOOKAH LOUNGES AND THEN A FEW RESTAURANTS THAT ALSO PROVIDE HOOKAH AND ARE CONSIDERED A SMOKING ESTABLISHMENT.
IN SUMMARY, IF THE SPECIAL PERMIT IS APPROVED, IT WOULD BE TIED TO THE APPLICANT AS THE, UH, SOLE OPERATOR.
THE SPECIAL PERMIT WOULD BE LIMITED TO THE HOURS OF OPERATION I MENTIONED AND THE PATIO AREA MAY NOT BE ENCLOSED.
UH, SMOKING IS NOT ALLOWED TO OCCUR INSIDE OF A RESTAURANT AND THAT IS JUST FROM OUR BASE, UH, HEALTH CODE.
IN SUMMARY, THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION VOTED FIVE OH TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST.
WE DID RECEIVE ONE WRITTEN COMMENT IN OPPOSITION OF THE REQUEST.
UH, THAT IS A STATEMENT THAT WAS INCLUDED IN YOUR STAFF REPORT.
AND THEN FINALLY THE CITY COUNCIL MAY APPROVE THE CASE AND THE ORDINANCE AS PRESENTED, UH, WITH CONDITIONS, AMENDED CONDITIONS OR DENIED THE REQUEST.
AND I COULD ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
ALRIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF COUNCIL MEMBER BARRIOS.
UH, DEREK, A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE THAT SHOWED THE ACTUAL OUT GRID OF THE PATIO WHERE YOU SHOWED THE RADIUS RIGHT THERE? SO I, WHEN IT WAS PA LAPPAS AT THE TIME, IT WAS MY FAVORITE RESTAURANT TOWN.
USED TO GO THERE ALL THE TIME, LOVED IT.
UM, AND THE PALAPA OVER THIS AREA, UM, WHERE I GREW UP, PPAS ARE VERY COMMON.
PALAPA REFERS TO THE TYPE OF ROOF, UH, WHICH IS THAT PALM FRON, UM, ROOF.
THEY'RE VERY COMMON WHERE I GREW UP IN SOUTH TEXAS.
AND I'M CURIOUS HAVING A SMOKING ESTABLISHMENT UNDER THAT KNOW FROM EXPERIENCE.
I'VE SEEN MANY OF THOSE GO UP IN FLAMES IN MY LIFE IN BACKYARDS EVERYWHERE.
SO HAVING A SMOKING ESTABLISHMENT UNDER THOSE, I'M KIND OF CONCERNED.
HAS THIS GONE THROUGH CASKEY, CHIEF CASKEY WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT? LIKE WHAT ARE THEIR THOUGHTS ON THIS? I'M KIND OF SURPRISED THAT SOMETHING LIKE THIS WOULD EVEN, YEAH, IT, WESLEY DID LET US KNOW WHEN PALIS WENT IN THAT THEY PRO THEY USED SOME KIND OF TREATMENT OR SPECIAL MATERIAL AND THOSE THAT, THAT MATERIAL IS NON-COMBUSTIBLE AND HE DID NOT HAVE A PROBLEM.
OR ANY ISSUE WITH THE SMOKING ELEMENT THERE.
THE, THE TOP SEMICIRCLE I KNOW IS THE FRONT DOOR.
THE TWO LOWER SEMICIRCLE ARE THE GARAGE DOORS, CORRECT? THEY'RE THE GARAGE DOORS AND THE WINDOWS AND THE WINDOW THAT ARE ON THOSE AREAS? YEAH, THERE'S A, THERE'S A GARAGE DOOR ON THE LEFT AND THE DOOR AND THEN A SERIES OF WINDOWS.
SO THAT'S THE 10 FOOT BOUNDARY AROUND ALL OF THOSE ELEMENTS.
SO THE 10 FOOT BOUNDARY, I KNOW THAT GARAGE DOOR, AGAIN, UNDER PREVIOUS OWNERS WHEN IT WAS BIPAS, THEY USED TO HAVE A BAND IN THE STAGE ON THE INSIDE BOTTOM.
AND THEN THEY WOULD OPEN IT UP AND AIR WOULD CIRCULATE THROUGH THERE ON THE FEW WEEKS OF NICE WEATHER WE GET AROUND NORTH TEXAS, UM, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE WEEKS IN THE SPRING.
BUT THEY WOULD OPEN THAT SO THAT IT WOULD HELP THE AIR CIRCULATION NET.
WOULD THEY BE ALLOWED TO OPEN THAT THERE WERE SMOKING OR DO WE HAVE REGULATIONS PLACE? HOW DOES THAT WORK? 'CAUSE THE GARAGE DOOR, OBVIOUSLY IT WAS INTENDED TO FOR VENTILATION.
I MEAN, THEY CAN FULLY OPEN THAT AS LONG AS NOBODY'S SMOKING WITHIN 10 FEET.
IS THAT CHANGED THE WAY THEY USE THAT IF IT BECOMES A SMOKING ESTABLISHMENT? AND IF WE DON'T KNOW THAT'S O YEAH, SO THE CODE DOES NOT SPEAK DIRECTLY TO THAT.
MY INTERPRETATION WOULD BE, IT'D BE NO DIFFERENT THAN A DOOR.
THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE.
THE, WHERE YOU HAVE THE SMOKING ESTABLISHMENTS LISTED MM-HMM
UM, THERE IS AND DID THAT ONE CLOSE, Y'ALL MAY KNOW DON YOU MAY KNOW THIS, BUT
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I THOUGHT THERE WAS ONE ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF, UH, WHAT IS THAT? WEST SHORE AND SPRING VALLEY, THAT YELLOW BUILDING WAS IT, IS THERE THAT IS SMOKING ESTABLISHMENT SOUTHEAST WEST IN ARAPAHOE? YES.WHAT DID I SAY? YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I MEANT.
I DON'T KNOW IF ABBY, THE ONE ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER, NOT THE NORTHERN ONE THAT JUST CLOSED NEXT TO SUENO, BUT ON THE, SO IT WAS, IT WAS CLOUD NINE.
SO CLOUD NINE CLOSED SEVERAL YEARS AGO.
ANOTHER SMOKING ESTABLISHMENT DIDN'T REPLACE IT.
NOW PART OF I HAD HEARD PART OF OUR AGREEMENT WITH THE OWNER THROUGH THAT LEGAL PROCESS WAS THAT THEY GOT IT.
I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION SOMETHING ELSE TOOK ITS PLACE.
UM, THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE.
I, UM, JUST, UH, JUST DID A LITTLE RESEARCH ON THIS AND I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, CURRENTLY WE HAVE WHAT, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ESTABLISHMENTS WHERE WE HAVE SMOKING, UH, AND OR HOOKAH, UM, ALLOWANCE, UH, JUST WITHIN THE SAME AREA.
AND WHAT, THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS THAT THAT KIND OF BOTHER ME.
ONE, I KNOW WE'RE TRYING TO LEAN TOWARD, YOU KNOW, A HEALTHIER ENVIRONMENT, UH, THROUGHOUT, WELL THROUGHOUT THE WORLD.
BUT, YOU KNOW, AND
AND THERE ARE FIVE OTHER, UH, ESTABLISHMENT JUST RIGHT AROUND THERE, NOT COUNTING THE TWO DOWN IN, UH, THE BUCKINGHAM AREA.
AND, UM, I THAT I JUST HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT THIS IS LEANING, UH, OR LENDING THE FACT THAT ARE WE LOOKING AT AS SIT DOWN RESTAURANTS, WALK-IN RESTAURANTS, UH, LIKE WE USED TO HAVE, I KNOW THAT A LOT OF, A LOT OF THE AREA IS FAST FOOD, BUT UH, THERE ARE A FEW, UH, WALK-IN RESTAURANTS.
IS THIS EVENTUALLY GOING TO POTENTIALLY ALLOW GOING, I'M OPENING TO RESTAURANT AND I'M GONNA ALLOW SMOKING AND ON THE PATIO LIKE IT USED TO BE.
UH, 'CAUSE THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD, THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD HAVE WITHOUT A SPECIAL PERMIT.
NOW I REALIZE THE SPECIAL PERMIT'S REQUIRED NOW, BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE THIS POINT ON FOCUSING ON WHAT, WHAT, HOW ARE WE WANTING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH, WITH THIS? I MEAN THAT, THAT WOULD GIVE US NOW SIX ESTABLISHMENTS, IF NOT SEVEN IN THE AREA.
I, I PERSONALLY FEEL LIKE THAT'S A LOT AND THAT WHAT KIND OF MESSAGE ARE WE SENDING, YOU KNOW, TO THIS AREA? THEY'RE ALL, THEY'RE ALL IN, IN THE CENTER CORRIDOR.
UM, DEREK, CAN YOU GO BACK TO YOUR CIRCLE, I'LL CALL IT YOUR CIRCLE DIAGRAM FOR JUST A MOMENT.
SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND.
SO THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN GET INTO THE RESTAURANT IS TO GO THROUGH THE PATIO AND YOU'D BE GOING THROUGH THE SMOKING AREA.
IS THAT CORRECT? YES, THAT'S ME.
ALRIGHT, IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF, WE CAN SEE IF THE APPLICANT WANTS TO, UH, ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS OR PRESENT.
AND IF YOU'LL JUST START OFF WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE.
ADDRESS, 8 8 0 1 LEGACY DRIVE PLAIN, TEXAS.
WILL YOU DO ME A FAVOR? WILL YOU LIFT UP THE MICROPHONE JUST A LITTLE BIT HIGHER? CLOSER TO YOU.
JUST, JUST SO WE CAN HEAR YOU.
WHEN, UH, WHEN AND IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS.
AND ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? OH, I'M SORRY.
OH, CAN YOU REPEAT YOUR NAME PLEASE? AHMA AHMED ALAMI, UH, ADDRESS 8 0 1 LEGACY DRIVE.
UH, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF APPLICANT OR DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANNA PRESENT TO US? UH, NO, JUST I WANNA ASK ABOUT THE GARAGE DOOR.
SO THERE IS NO GARAGE DOOR ANYMORE, NO LONGER A NEED FOR VENTILATION THROUGH THE GARAGE DOOR.
AND, UH, I, I USE THE ONLY THE LEFT SIDE OR RIGHT SIDE.
I, I DO SURFACE FOR THE H****R AND THE METAL.
YOU DON'T USE THE MIDDLE, YOU SAID? YEAH, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE, THE, THE DOORS AND THE SPACE FOR THE DOOR.
LIKE THEY GO INSIDE THE RESTAURANT.
I NO USE IT BECAUSE I DON'T DO SPACE, UH, THE FRONT DOOR LIKE AROUND LIKE 10, 10 FOOT.
YEAH, NOT, I KNOW IT IS HOOK THERE.
ALRIGHT, ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT OR IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANTED TO PRESENT? UH, YEAH, JUST I WANNA THE A HUNDRED PERCENT I I WORKING FOR THE FOOD, BUT THERE THE HOOK JUST ISF IS FOR THE HOOK SURFACE FOR THAT.
IT'S JUST KIND OF AN ACCESSORY.
LIKE A SMALL, SMALL USE FOR YOU? YES.
COUNCIL, I HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR, THANK YOU FOR LETTING US KNOW ABOUT THE GARAGE DOOR.
I OBVIOUSLY HAVEN'T BEEN THERE SINCE THEY CLOSED, I THINK I'M STILL HURT ON THAT, BUT THAT THEY CLOSED.
BUT, UM, THE, I REMEMBER THE PATIO USED TO BE OPEN.
IS IT STILL OPEN OR HAVE YOU MADE CHANGES TO THAT? WHICH ONE? THE, LIKE THE
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PATIO, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, IF I'M IN THE PATIO, IS THE WIND STILL BLOWING OR DID YOU PUT LIKE A PLASTIC WALL? IS ENCLO OPEN? IT'S COMPLETELY OPEN, YEAH.ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ALRIGHT.
IF YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO SIT BACK DOWN AND IT WILL CALL YOU UP IF WE DO HAVE ANY THANK YOU.
AT THIS TIME WE'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND SEE IF THERE ARE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS.
MS. NEER? I HAVE NO CARDS, MAYOR.
ALRIGHT, IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE? UH, YES.
MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHIN MAYOR, MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
COUNCIL MEMBER DORIAN SECOND MOTION AND A SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? AND THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
ALRIGHT, ANY, ANY DISCUSSION? YES.
COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE, I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN DORIAN AND HIS COMMENTS.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE GOAL IN PASSING THIS WAS TO TRY AND REDUCE THE NUMBER OF SMOKING ESTABLISHMENTS WE HAVE.
THERE'S ALREADY A CONCENTRATION HERE BASED ON THAT MAP.
SO, UH, FOR THOSE REASONS I AM SO GRATEFUL FOR THE INVESTMENT IN THIS RESTAURANT AND I HOPE THAT IT'S SUPER SUCCESSFUL.
BUT, UM, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF A, A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR THIS PURPOSE.
COUNCIL MEMBER BARRIOS, UH, SIMILAR TO COUNCILMAN JUSTICE COMMENTS, CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR RESTAURANT.
I WISH YOU MANY YEARS OF SUCCESS.
UH, I, I'M SURE AT SOME POINT I WILL COME BY AND, AND VISIT AS WELL AND TRY SOME OF YOUR DELICIOUS FOOD, BUT I JOKINGLY NOT SO JOKINGLY SAID TO COUNCILMAN JUSTICE A MINUTE AGO, I SAID, IF WE APPROVE ANOTHER ONE IN THIS AREA, WE MAY HAVE TO RENAME IT.
I MEAN IT, I I WOULD NOT SUPPORT A SMOKING, ANOTHER SMOKING ESTABLISHMENT AT THIS TIME SPEC, ESPECIALLY SINCE THAT'S SUCH A OPEN AREA AND RIGHT NEXT TO IT, THIS IS ON THE BOOKEND OF A, OF A LIKE LITTLE SHOPPING CENTER.
THERE'S SEVERAL RESTAURANTS THAT ARE NEARBY WITH, WITH THAT CLOSE OF PROXIMITY IF IT WE'RE A STANDALONE AND KNOW, LIKE ANOTHER PLACE IN TIME IS KIND OF A STANDALONE OFF TO THE SIDE.
IT'S KIND OF AWAY FROM STUFF AND IT IS AN OPEN PATIO, BUT IT'S, IT'S SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT LOCATION.
UM, AND BECAUSE OF THAT IT'S JUST, IT'S, IT'S TOO MUCH FOR ME TO, TO CON UH, TOO MANY LOCATIONS, TOO CLOSE TO OTHER RESTAURANTS THAT ARE NON-SMOKING.
YOU KNOW, SOME OF YOU PROBABLY WILL BE SURPRISED THAT WHEN, YOU KNOW, I, I SPOKE WITH FEW RESTAURANTS.
THEY HAVE SMOKING AREA, HOOK AREA, THEY DON'T EVEN WANT ANY OTHER NEW HOOKAH, UM, IN OUR CITY.
SO THEY'RE PRETTY HAPPY WHAT THEY HAVE.
SO, UH, THAT'S VERY INTERESTING
SO IT'S, I WOULD NOT SUPPORT THIS ZONING CASE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR ANY OTHER COMMENTS? YES, MAYOR PROM, HUTCHIN, IF THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS, ARE YOU READY FOR A MOTION? SURE AM.
I'D MAKE A MOTION TO DISAPPROVE, DENY PUBLIC TO DENY, SORRY.
PUBLIC HEARING ZONING FILE 25 14.
ALRIGHT, AND COUNCIL MEMBER DORIAN.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? RIGHT? I JUST, I WANNA SECOND WHAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE SAID, WHICH IS WE'RE SO THRILLED THAT YOU'RE HAVING A RESTAURANT IN RICHARDSON.
I'M HOPING THAT THESE HANDFUL OF SEATS AREN'T GOING TO HURT YOUR BUSINESS.
UH, 'CAUSE I WANNA SEE YOU BE SUCCESSFUL.
UM, BUT I'M ALSO GONNA BE DENYING IT.
SO ALL IN FAVOR OF DENYING IT.
ANY OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, THE MOTION IS DENIED UNANIMOUSLY.
[10. RECEIVE THE AUGUST 6, 2025, SIGN CONTROL BOARD MINUTES AND CONSIDER FINAL APPROVAL OF SCB CASE #25-03]
NUMBER 10, UH, RECEIVE THE AUGUST 6TH, 2025 SIGN CONTROL BOARD MINUTES AND CONSIDER FINAL APPROVAL OF SIGN CONTROL BOARD CASE 25 DASH OH THREE.MR. MAGNAR, UH, MAYOR, THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNSEL, IT'S MY PLEASURE TO WELCOME OUR ASSISTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER, RILEY THOMASON, TO THE PODIUM TO PRESENT ON THIS CASE.
NOW LET ME, UH, REMIND YOU, UH, THIS IS NOT, UH, MAKING A, A DELIBERATION ON THE CASE TONIGHT.
UH, YOU ACCEPT THE SIGN CONTROL BOARD MINUTES AND YOU'LL RATIFY THEIR ACTION.
HOWEVER, IF YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT THE CASE AND YOU'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT, WE WOULD SET THAT FOR A FUTURE DATE.
AND SO THAT WOULD BE THE MOTION, UH, TO CALL IT UP AND TO REVISIT IT, UH, IN, IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS IF THAT'S THE WAY YOU WANTED TO GO.
SO RILEY, THANKS FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU FOR FURTHER BRIEFING.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL AND THANK YOU MR. MAGNER.
SO SIGN CONTROL BOARD CASE NUMBER 25 DASH ZERO THREE, THE REQUEST SUMMARY.
VICTORY SHOPS OWNS THE PROPERTIES LOCATED AT 1600 AND 1700 EAST BELTLINE ROAD.
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THERE ARE TOTAL OF THREE SIGNS.SO THE PROPERTY OWNER WISHES TO REMOVE AN EXISTING SINGLE TENANT SIGN AND AN EXISTING MULTI-TENANT SIGN.
COMBINE THE PROPERTIES BY REPRE PLATTING AND INSTALL TWO NEW MULTI-TENANT POLE SIGNS FOR A TOTAL OF THREE SIGNS.
SO, SWAPPING OUT, UM, THE APPLICABLE ORDINANCE IS CHAPTER 18, ARTICLE THREE, SECTION 18 DASH 96, SUBSECTION 23, SUBSECTION C, SUBSECTION THREE, SUBSECTION ONE, UM, WHICH STATES THAT SITES LESS THAN 10 ARE ALLOWED ONE SINGLE USE POLE SIGN FOR RETAIL COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICTS.
THE REQUESTED VARIANCE IS TO ALLOW ONE SINGLE TENANT INTO MULTI-TENANT POLE SIGNS ON A SITE LESS THAN 10 ACRES.
AS A QUICK REMINDER, COUNSEL, THIS PROPERTY DOES FALL INTO ONE OF THE ENVISIONED RICHARDSON SPECIAL STUDY AREAS.
UM, THE EXISTING SIGNAGE AT 1600 EAST BELTLINE AND 1700 EAST BELTLINE ARE REQUESTED TO BE REMOVED AND REPLACED.
SO THOSE ARE THE ONES ON THE SIDES.
AND THEN THE ONE IN THE MIDDLE, 1610 EAST BELTLINE, UM, WILL REMAIN AS IS AND THAT'S THE SINGLE TENANT POLE SIGN.
SO JUST A LITTLE BIT OF OTHER CONTEXT ON THE PROPERTY, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCAL RETAIL.
THE PROPERTY DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH IS RESIDENTIAL AND THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST, SOUTH, AND EAST IS LOCAL RETAIL.
THE EXISTING SIGN TO REMAIN, AS I MENTIONED AT 1610 EAST BELTLINE ROAD, IS A SINGLE TENANT POLE SIGN.
AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE PICTURE THERE.
UM, IT WAS ORIGINALLY ALLOWED, UH, PER A CODE, UM, VARIANCE THAT WAS ERECTED IN THE MID 1970S.
UH, IT STANDS AT 17 FEET IN HEIGHT AND 40 SQUARE FEET IN AREA.
AND THE INTENT IS TO ADVERTISE THE TENANT IN BUILDING AT THE BUILDING AT 1610, WHICH I BELIEVE IS CURRENTLY VACANT.
UM, SO THE PROPERTY AT 1600 EAST BELTLINE ROAD SITS AT 0.86 ACRES.
UM, YOU CAN SEE IT IN THAT TOP LEFT BOX SORT OF SEPARATED OUT.
SO IT IS, UM, NEEDS TO BE RE PLATTED AND COMBINED WITH 1700 EAST BELTLINE ROAD TO ENABLE THE ADDITIONAL ON-PREMISE SIGNAGE.
1700 EAST BELTLINE ROAD IS 7.9 ACRES, UM, THAT HAS THE ONE SINGLE TENANT POLE SIGN AND THEN THE ONE MULTI-TENANT POLE SIGN THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS.
UM, AND THOSE PROPERTIES INCLUDE 16 10 16 80 AND 1702 THROUGH 1748 OF EAST BELTLINE.
SO AFTER THE REPL, WHICH WILL COMBINE 1600 AND 1700 EAST BELTLINE ROAD, THE TOTAL ACREAGE WILL BE 8.76, UM, 1600 EAST BELTLINE ROAD.
THE EXISTING SIGN WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1984.
UM, IT'S 14 FEET IN HEIGHT, 18 SQUARE FEET IN AREA, AND IT IS REQUESTED TO BE REMOVED AND REPLACED WITH, UH, ONE NEW MULTI-TENANT SIGN.
THIS PROPERTY, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, MUST BE RE PLATTED TO BE A PART OF 1700 EAST BELTLINE ROAD, UM, OR THE PROPOSED SIGN WOULD BE CONSIDERED OFF PREMISE AND PROHIBITED.
AND THE PROPERTY OWNER, UM, GIVEN THE, THE COST OF ALL OF THIS WOULD PURSUE IF THE REQUESTED VARIANCE IS GRANTED 1700 EAST BELTLINE ROAD.
THE EXISTING SIGN, UM, WAS APPROVED VIA VARIANCE, FIRST, SECOND SIGN ON THE SITE, UH, ALSO IN THE SEVENTIES.
SO IT STANDS AT 20 FEET IN OVERALL HEIGHT AND 60 SQUARE FEET AN AREA.
UM, AND IT WILL BE ONE OF THE ONES THAT IS REMOVED AND REPLACED WITH A NEW MULTI-TENANT SIGN, WHICH I'LL SHOW ON THIS SLIDE.
SO THIS IS THE PROPOSED ZI, UH, PROPOSED DESIGN FOR THE TWO NEW MULTI-TENANT POLE SIGNS THAT WILL REPLACE THE SIGNAGE AT 1600, 1700 AT THE TWO CORNERS OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, SO IT WILL STAND AT 20 FEET IN HEIGHT, 60 SQUARE FEET IN AREA.
AND THE MATERIALS, UM, ARE AN ALUMINUM CABINET AND POLE COVER WITH ACRYLIC SIGN PANELS.
THE CHARACTER OF THE SIGN WILL MATCH THE FACADE OF THE EXISTING AREA, UM, ENHANCEMENTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN DONE TO THE RETAIL BUILDINGS.
AND THIS SIGN IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH OUR REQUIREMENTS IN CHAPTER 18.
THE APPLICANT HAS A FEW REASONS FOR THIS REQUEST.
UM, THE NEW MULTI-TENANT RETAIL BUILDING IS SET BACK MORE THAN 450 FEET FROM EAST BELTLINE ROAD, AND THE SIGNAGE ON THE MULTI-TENANT BUILDING IS CURRENTLY OBSCURED BY THE BUILDINGS ADJACENT TO E ADJACENT TO EAST BELTLINE ROAD.
SO THESE TWO SIGNS WOULD ALERT PEOPLE DRIVING ON EAST BELTLINE ROAD SOONER AND ALLOW FOR INCREASED VISIBILITY TO THE NEW SHOPPING CENTER AND THE EXISTING SIGNAGE IS OUTDATED.
SO THESE ARE, UH, THE ACTIONS, UM, THAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO TAKE.
SO THE SIGN CONTROL BOARD LAST WEEK VOTED TO APPROVE SIGN CONTROL BOARD CASE NUMBER 25 DASH ZERO THREE, UM, UNANIMOUSLY.
THE SIGN PERMIT ISSUANCE WAS CONTINGENT UPON THE TWO PROPERTIES BEING
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RE PLATTED AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, INTO ONE PARCEL WITHIN TWO YEARS OF THE VARIANCE APPROVAL.SO COUNSEL, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO EITHER APPROVE THE AUGUST 6TH, 2025 SIGN CONTROL BOARD MINUTES AND THE SIGN CONTROL BOARD CASE AS PRESENTED HERE TODAY, OR YOU'LL BE ABLE TO CALL THE CASE UP FOR FULL CONSIDERATION BY THE CITY COUNCIL AT A FUTURE MEETING.
WITH THAT, UM, I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS AND HOPEFULLY MR. MAGNER AND MR. GAW CAN ASSIST WITH SAID QUESTIONS
ALRIGHT, COUNCIL MEMBER DORIAN.
UM, JUST, JUST TO BE CLEAR, UH, THAT THE PLOT ON THE CORNER THERE, THAT WILL BE PART OF THE NEW PLOT AND THEN THERE YOU'LL BE ABLE TO PASS THROUGH BEHIND THERE.
CORRECT? I MEAN, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO GET TO THE BACK OF THOSE BUILDINGS.
I, IT'S HARD FOR ME TO SEE AND I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO DRIVE ON THAT END OF IT EARLIER.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE, IF SOMEONE SEES THE SIGN AND THEY PULL INTO A PARKING LOT, WILL THEY BE ABLE TO GET TO THE OTHER PART THERE? I THINK SO, BUT I'M JUST YES, THAT IS CORRECT.
I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR BECAUSE I MEAN, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S JUST A VERY, I KNOW KNOW, IT'S SMALLER ON SCREEN, BUT, UH, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S SOME CONSISTENCY THERE.
AND ALSO THE SECOND QUESTION IS, IS THERE IS GOING TO BE TWO SIGNS ON FLANKING EACH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, CORRECT? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
SO THERE'LL BE THREE SIGNS IN TOTAL, UM, AND THEN THE ONE AT 1600 EAST BELTLINE AND 1700 EAST BELTLINE WILL BE MULTI-TENANT AND THEN THE SIXTEEN TEN ONE JUST REMAINS AS IS AND IT'S A SINGLE TENANT POLE SIGN.
THAT ONE IN THE MIDDLE WILL REMAIN AS IS? YES.
THE THE ROUND WHITE BOX OR THE SQUARE BOX? YES.
I GUESS I'LL WAIT TILL THE A COMES UP.
THE APPLICANT WON'T BE COMING UP.
WELL THEN, UM,
IT WOULD, WOULD IT, THEY BE OPPOSED TO THREE THREE OF THOSE SIGN OR, OR IT'S BEEN APPROVED JUST FOR TWO OF THE SIGNED SIDE AND TO KEEP THAT BLANK OR THE RECTANGULAR ONE IN THE MIDDLE, CORRECT.
SO FROM, FROM A DESIGN STANDPOINT, OF COURSE MM-HMM
NO, I TOTALLY GET THE, THE, THE, UH, SPIRIT OF THE QUESTION.
I MEAN, IF YOU WANT CONSISTENCY IN THE THREE POLE SIGNS, UM, WHEN IF YOU DECIDE TO, IF THE COUNCIL DECIDES TO CALL THE APPLICANT IN, YOU CAN REQUEST THAT THEY, UH, MAKE THE IMPROVEMENT TO THE THIRD SIGN AS WELL.
PERSONALLY, I LIKE THAT ONLY BECAUSE AGAIN, THIS AREA IS WE'RE TRYING TO MM-HMM
ELEVATE, YOU KNOW, ELEVATE IT.
YES, I HAVE TO USE THAT WORD, BUT, AND I, AND I DO LIKE THAT SIGN BY THE WAY.
IT'S, UH, MUCH, MUCH NICER, UM, THAN THE EXISTING.
AND, AND I'M, I, I WOULD, I WOULD BE FOR THAT SIGN, BUT I'D, I'D PREFER COUNCILMAN BARRIOS.
UM, THANK YOU MAYOR RILEY, GREAT JOB ON YOUR FIRST PRESENTATION TO THE COUNCIL, SO CONGRATULATIONS ON THAT.
UM, JUST TO CLARIFY, SO EVERYTHING ON THIS WITH EXCEPTION OF THE QUANTITY CAN BE DONE, I GUESS, IN OTHER WORDS, 60 SQUARE FEET IS NOT OUT OF OUT OF THE ORDINARY, CORRECT? NO.
SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE DONE BY RIGHT? OR SO REALLY IT'S JUST THE QUANTITY THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING BECAUSE THE HIGH 20 FEET IS 20 FEET, 60 SQUARE FEET IS ALREADY ALLOWED, CORRECT? AM I WRONG ON THAT? NO, THAT'S GOOD.
THEY COULD START FROM SCRATCH AND DO THAT WITHOUT ANY REQUEST.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I'M CLARIFYING I, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU MEANT.
SO THE QUESTION TO, WITH RESPECT TO THE OVERALL SQUARE FEET OF THE SIGNAGE AND THE HEIGHT OF THE SIGN, THOSE ARE ALLOWED BY RIGHT? THOSE ARE NOT, THERE'S NOT A VARIANCE, IT'S THE NUMBER OF SIGNS RIGHT.
SO AT, WITH CONSIDERING THE EIGHT ACRES, WOULD IT 8.76 ACRES, WOULD IT NORMALLY BE JUST ONE SIGN? I BELIEVE, YES.
SO, SO WHAT YOU DON'T GET BY RIDE IS THE SECOND SIGN, AND THEN THE THIRD ONE'S ALREADY THERE.
C RILEY NUMBER ONE, GREAT JOB.
I BET MOM AND DAD'S WATCHING MIGHT WANT TO WISH DAD HAPPY BIRTHDAY AT SOME POINT.
SO DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU, BUT I THINK THE, THE PROBLEM'S GONNA BE IS THOSE TWO SIGNS ARE AWFULLY CLOSE MM-HMM
SO I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, IT'S AN EXISTING SIGN.
I, I, I MEAN, IF, IF WE WANT TO CALL UP, I MEAN, WE'D HAVE TO DENY THE, THE, THE BOARD MINUTES AND WE'D HAVE TO CALL THEM IN.
AND I GUESS MY ONLY CONCERN IS I DON'T KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT, I MEAN, THAT ONE SIGN IT'S EXISTING.
I DON'T, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, IIII, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
I DON'T NECESSARILY DISAGREE WITH YOU, BUT I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT THE, I MEAN, IT, IT'S, IT'S JUST A ONE SINGLE STANDALONE SIGN.
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I THINK THEY'RE TOO CLOSE TOGETHER TO TRY AND, AND GET 'EM ALL TO MATCH EXACTLY, IF YOU WILL.IF, IF THAT MAKES SENSE WHAT I'M SAYING.
AND I, I MEAN, ULTIMATELY, YES, I WOULD LIKE THAT, BUT I DID NOT REALIZE THAT THERE IS, UH, A TWO, A LIMITATION OF TWO THAT'S GETTING A POTENTIALLY APPROVED HERE TONIGHT.
I MEAN, MY THOUGHT WOULD BE TO TAKE THAT SECOND SIGN AND CREATE MORE OF A KIOSK, UH, ON GROUND LEVEL.
BUT I REALIZE THAT'S PROBABLY GONNA HAVE TO GO THROUGH, UM, THE SIGN BOARD AGAIN TO GET APPROVED.
SO I, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M FINE WITH THE TWO SIGNS FLANKING BOTH THE BUILDINGS POTENTIALLY, HOPEFULLY THAT OTHER SIGN WILL GET SOME ATTENTION AT A LATER DATE.
SO, UM, I'M NOT COMFORTABLE ACCEPTING THE MINUTES, UH, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, UM, I, I JUST, IT, IT FEELS LIKE WE'RE UPGRADING AND ADDING MORE SIGNS WHERE WE DON'T HAVE TO GET, AND BY UPGRADING, I DON'T JUST MEAN DESIGN WISE, ALTHOUGH I AGREE WITH YOU.
I PREFER THE DESIGN, FOR EXAMPLE, ON THE MULTI-TENANT, IF THEY WANNA COME BACK AND REDO THAT MULTI-TENANT AND DO IT WITH THE NEW LOOK, UH, AND DO 60 SQUARE FEET, UH, THE WAY THAT THEY HAVE IT PROPOSED, I'M COOL WITH IT.
BUT ADDING THAT SECOND 60 FOOT, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, GIVES YOU 42 MORE SQUARE FEET OF SIGN, SIX FOOT TALLER THAN THE ONE THAT WAS PREVIOUS.
SO YOU'RE TAKING THE OLD CALLISTO SIGN, WHICH ALTHOUGH YOU CAN'T SEE IT IN THIS IMAGE, IS JUST A LITTLE BIT FURTHER UP FROM THOSE TWO SIGNS.
SO YOU WOULD CREATE, UH, WE, WE TALKED ABOUT A SMOKING CORRIDOR EARLIER.
YOU'D BE TALKING ABOUT A THREE 20 FOOT SIGN, YOU KNOW, CORRIDOR ESSENTIALLY, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I, THAT'S WHY I WOULD NOT BE COMFORTABLE, PERSONALLY, UH, ACCEPTING THE MINUTES.
I THINK IF THEY WANNA, IF THEY WANNA REDUCE IT, THEY WANNA TO GO DOWN TO THE ONE BRAND NEW SIGN.
UM, I'M EVEN FINE WITH THEM KEEPING THE CALLISTO SIGN THE WAY THEY HAVE IT, BUT HAVING A SECOND SIGN WHERE THIS IS, THAT'S 20 FOOT TALL AND 60 SQUARE FEET, IT'S JUST A LOT OF SIGN POLLUTION WITHIN A VERY FEW NUMBER OF FEET AS A PERSON WHO AT ONE POINT LIVED REAL CLOSE TO THAT PLACE.
NO, AND I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THAT, AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
I MEAN, THE WAY I'M LOOKING AT THIS THOUGH, IS YOU HAVE TWO LARGER ARCHITECTURAL PIECES, KINDA LIKE WE HAVE IN CHINATOWN OR CLAY COUEY.
I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF EXAMPLES AND IT CREATES, YOU KNOW, AN AESTHETIC.
AND THOSE ARE VERY ARCHITECTURAL, AND I DO LIKE THAT THEY'RE FLANK, THEY'RE NOT SUPER CLOSE TOGETHER, BUT IT DOES SHOW THAT THIS IS A SHOPPING CENTER AND IT CREATES THIS CORRIDOR.
NOW, I AGREE THAT THE ONE IN THE MIDDLE PROBABLY SHOULD JUST BE REMOVED AND NOT EVEN HAVE IT, JUST HAVE THE TWO ON EACH END AND NOT EVEN WORRY ABOUT THE ONE IN THE MIDDLE.
IF THAT'S EVEN SOMETHING WE CAN SAY, JUST CUT IT DOWN, JUST BE DONE WITH IT.
WHEN WE CALL THE APPLICANT UP, WE COULD ACTUALLY ASK THEM THAT IF WE WANTED TO.
YEAH, I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S THE PLACE FOR US, I THINK, TO TALK ABOUT IT.
THE QUESTION IS JUST WHETHER OR NOT WE ACCEPT IT AS IT IS, AND IF YOU'D LIKE IT AS IT IS, THEN WE ACCEPT IT.
IF WE DON'T, THEN WE ASK THEM TO COME AND THEN WE CAN HAVE THE WHOLE DISCUSSION IS THE WAY THAT WORKS.
SO BOTH, WE CANNOT ADD, UH, WE CANNOT ADD MR. MAYOR, WE CAN'T ASK THAT, THAT EXISTING SIGN JUST BE ELIMINATED AS PART OF THIS.
WE CAN OF THE APPLICANT WHEN THEY COME BEFORE US, THE APPLICANT SIGN.
SO, SO THE MOVE IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT, IS TO NOT ACCEPT THIS AND THEN TO WAIT FOR THE APPLICANT TO COME BACK TO US IN A, IN A PERIOD OF TIME, A COUPLE WEEKS.
WHICH IS WHERE I WOULD BE, BUT, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE.
YEAH, NO, I, WE SHOULDN'T BE HAVING THIS DEBATE.
IF THERE'S ENOUGH CONCERN ABOUT IT, WE JUST NEED TO CALL IT UP.
DO WE NEED COUNCIL MEMBER BARRIO? YOU GOOD WITH THAT? YEP.
YEAH, I THINK WITH THIS KIND OF THING, SAYING, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE SHOULD CALL, CALL THEM UP.
WE WON'T BE MOVING FORWARD ON ACCEPTING THAT MOTION.
YEAH, PLEASE MAKE A MOTION TO CALL IT.
COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE, MOVE TO CALL THE CASE FOR FULL CONSIDERATION BY THE CITY COUNCIL ON AUGUST 25TH, 2025 AT 6:00 PM ALRIGHT, WE GOT A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE.
ALRIGHT, COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE MOVED, UH, THAT WE DO THIS AND COUNCIL MEMBER BARRIOS TO SECOND IT ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, WE ARE GONNA BE CALLING IT UP.
ORDINANCE ORDERING A NO, WE'RE GONNA SKIP OVER NUMBER 11, AREN'T WE? YES SIR.
[12. CONSENT AGENDA]
DO HAVE A CONSENT AGENDA AND I SEE A LIGHT ON MR. MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHEN RIDER.I'D MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PUBLISHED.
ALRIGHT, COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE.
ALRIGHT, WE'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[13. REPORT ON ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST]
ON TO ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST.UM, COUNCIL, I SENT AN EMAIL A FEW DAYS AGO.
I KNOW WHEN WE HAD OUR WORK SESSION AROUND GOALS AND STRATEGY, UH, IT, THE, UH, SZA
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PROJECT WAS BROUGHT UP AND GETTING AN UPDATE.UM, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE LAST TWO YEARS.
I WENT AHEAD AND, UM, SENT Y'ALL AN UPDATE SO THAT EVERYBODY'S, IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, FEEL, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT TO ME SO THAT I, WE WOULDN'T TAKE ANY TIME ON AGENDA OR ANYTHING.
I JUST THOUGHT I'D SEND IT TO THE COUNCIL AS A WHOLE.
BUT PLEASE REACH OUT TO ME IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
COUNCIL MEMBER DORIAN? UH, YES.
I JUST, UH, WANTED TO SAY THAT, UM, I, UH, ON SUNDAY WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT, UM, AND HELP ME WITH THE PRONUNCIATION.
YEAH, BECAUSE I'M HORRIBLE WITH THE PRONUNCIATION, BUT, UM, THE TEMPLE.
AND, UM, IT WAS VERY NICE, VERY ENJOYABLE AND THEY WERE VERY HOSPITABLE.
AND, UM, WE TOOK THE, UH, OUR, OUR MAYOR AND, UH, COUNCILMAN CHU AND COUNCILMAN BARUS, UH, JOINED US.
AND IT WAS, UH, WE HAD A VERY NICE VISIT, SOME FOOD AND GOOD CONVERSATION.
SO IT'S NICE COLLABORATION, NICE BRIDGE, UM, A BRIDGE EVENT, WE'LL CALL IT.
AND THE SECOND THING IS I WANTED TO ANNOUNCE THAT TODAY, UM, I WAS SELECTED INTO THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY.
UH, GREG WILLIS IS PLEASED TO, UH, WELCOME YOU TO THE COLLIN COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S CITIZENS, UH, PROSECUTOR ACADEMY, WHICH STARTS ON AUGUST 28TH.
SO I'LL BE PARTICIPATING, UH, IN THIS PROGRAM, UM, THIS YEAR.
I'VE NEVER EVEN HEARD OF THE PROGRAM, SO I'M EXCITED TO HEAR MORE ABOUT IT IN THE FUTURE.
AND, UH, YOU ENJOYED THE, UH, THE STOP SO MUCH THAT YOU SHOWED UP EARLY AND THEN YOU ACTUALLY GAVE THE TOUR FOR THE REST OF US THAT WERE THERE A LITTLE BIT LATER.
SO YOU, YOU REALLY, UH, DIGESTED THE INFORMATION QUITE WELL.
COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE, UH, THANK YOU MAYOR.
I JUST WANNA CONGRATULATE ASHLEY WAKEFIELD ON A GREAT CORPORATE CHALLENGE KICKOFF ON FRIDAY.
IT WAS REALLY GREAT, NICE AND WARM, BUT ALWAYS AMAZING, UM, TO HAVE THE, A SPECIAL OLYMPICS KICKOFF AND, UH, THE LIGHTING OF THE, UH, OLYMPIC TORCH AND EVERYTHING.
SO IT WAS A REALLY GREAT KICKOFF AND JUST WANTED TO CONGRATULATE HER ON THAT.
UM, JUST WANNA GO BACK, UH, JULY 29TH WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND THE RICHARDSON ISD SUPERINTENDENT, NEW TEACHER WELCOME.
I NEVER KNEW THAT OUR CURRENT SUPERINTENDENT WAS A KILGORE RANGER AT OH, AND SHE, I, THAT'S WHAT I DID.
AND SO SHE ACTUALLY GOT UP AND, AND DANCED WITH THE DRILL TEAMS AND IT ALSO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT STARTING TOMORROW MORNING AT O DARK 30, UM, BOTH THE RICHARDSON ISD AND THE PLANO ISD SCHOOLS ARE BACK IN SESSION.
SO WATCH THE SCHOOL ZONES BECAUSE I KNOW CHAD WILL PROBABLY BE UP NEAR MY NEIGHBORHOOD
AND SO JUST WANNA REMIND EVERYBODY ELSE AND WISH EVERYBODY A A FANTASTIC SCHOOL YEAR 'CAUSE THEY ALL KICK OFF TOMORROW.
AND THANK YOU, UH, MAYOR PRO FOR REMINDING THAT MY KIDS, UH, GOES TO SCHOOL TOMORROW,
SO YEAH, IT'S A, A GOOD REMINDER.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, BESIDES THE FRIDAY AND SUNDAY EVENT THAT WE ATTENDED, WE ATTENDED MAYOR, THE MAYOR AND I ATTENDED, UH, SATURDAY.
ONE EVENT, UH, IS CALLED IBG MAYOR.
IF YOU, IF YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IT'S THE INDOOR BADMINTON GROUP.
NOW YOU MIGHT THINK THAT THEY'RE ALL ABOUT PLAYING GAMES AND, BUT THAT'S NOT ALL REALLY, THIS IS JUST THE NAME, BUT THEY DO LOTS OF COMMUNITY WORKS.
UH, EVEN MALE PROBABLY CAN SAY LITTLE MORE DETAIL ABOUT THE THINGS THEY DO.
THEY DO CLEAN UP THE PRAIRIE CREEK AREA, THOSE, UH, MARSH AREA.
UH, AND THEY DO LOTS OF LIKE, UH, YOU KNOW, FEEDING THE HOMELESS, UH, YOU KNOW, HELPING OTHERS, ALL KIND OF SOCIAL WORK.
SO VERY ENERGETIC GROUP OF PEOPLE AND, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURPRISED ABOUT THEIR ENERGY.
UH, THERE ARE MANY FROM BANGLADESH.
UM, I, I GUESS I'LL ADD A LITTLE BIT TO THE INDOOR BADMINTON GROUP.
UM, THEY MET WITH ME PROBABLY IN MY FIRST WEEK IN OFFICE AND LITERALLY WERE JUST LOOKING FOR THINGS TO DO, UH, WAYS THAT THEY CAN KIND OF GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY.
UH, BUT IT ALL STARTED WITH BADMINTON, WHICH IS, WHICH IS REALLY KIND OF COOL.
AND, UH, THEY HAVE PARTICIPATED, I THINK TWO MONTHS IN A ROW AT THE, UH, PRAIRIE CREEK WETLAND AND WILD SCAPE, UH, DOING SOME CLEANUP AND STUFF THERE.
UM, I WANNA ALSO KIND OF THANK, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER BARRIOS.
UM, UH, HE AND I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO A, UH, TOWN HALL AT SU CHI UH, FOUNDATION, UH, JUST ON SATURDAY MORNING.
UM, REALLY JUST GREAT QUESTIONS.
REALLY COOL TO SEE, UH, THE PARTICIPATION, UH, FROM RESIDENTS AND HOW INTERESTED THEY ARE AND, AND SO MUCH OF WHAT WE DO.
AND JUST, UM, UH, APPRECIATE YOU COUNCIL MEMBER BARRIOS.
UH, AS, AS WE GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO, OR AS I GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO A FEW MORE OF THESE, UH, I'LL BE REACHING OUT TO EACH INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBER THAT WHOSE PLACE
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IT'S IN AND, UM, UH, IN OUR TWO AT LARGE SEATS TO SEE IF THEY WOULD, UM, BE OPEN TO JOINING US IN IN FUTURE CASES.BUT, UH, NO, EVERYBODY WAS, UH, CORDIAL AND IT ENDED UP BEING, UH, A NICE EVENT WHEN IT WAS ALL SAID AND DONE.
ALRIGHT, SO NOW, UH, I WILL MOVE ON IF THERE'S NO OTHER ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST, UH, IN COMPLIANCE
[EXECUTIVE SESSION]
WITH SECTION 5 5 1 0.074, UH, ONE OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE COUNSEL WILL CONVENE INTO CLOSED EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS THE FOLLOWING PERSONNEL MATTERS DELIBERATION REGARDING THE EMPLOYMENT AGREEMENT OF CITY MANAGER.UH, WE'RE GONNA TAKE PROBABLY A EIGHT MINUTE RECESS AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK INTO, I'M SORRY, OR THAT, UH, THE TIME NOW IS 9:00 PM HEY.