Oct 27, 2025 City Council

YOU PLEASE JOIN ME IN A ATTITUDE OF PRAYER.

HEAVENLY FATHER, THANK YOU FOR THIS BEAUTIFUL DAY AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME TOGETHER AS THE RICHARDSON CITY COUNCIL TO CONTINUE THE GOOD WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE WITH OUR MOTTO OF ALWAYS STANDING ON THE SHOULDERS OF OTHERS TO CONTINUE THE ADVANCEMENT OF OUR CITY.

WE PRAY FOR OPEN, HONEST DELIBERATIONS AND FOR COMING TOGETHER TO MOVE OUR CITY FORWARD.

IN CHRIST'S NAME WE PRAY.

AMEN.

IF YOU'LL JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.

AND FOR ALL TEXAS FLAG, HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ITEM NUMBER THREE, WHICH IS THE, UH, MINUTES OF THE OCTOBER 20TH, 2025 MEETING.

MAYOR PRO TIMM HUTCHEN RIDER.

ALRIGHT, UM, MAYOR PRO, TIMM HUTCHIN RIDER.

YES, SIR.

OH, I GUESS I'LL READ

[3. MINUTES OF THE OCTOBER 20, 2025 MEETING]

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE AS PUBLISHED.

ALRIGHT, COUNCIL MEMBER DORIAN.

I'LL SECOND THAT.

ITEM NUMBER FOUR, PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS AND VISITORS FORUM.

ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO

[4. PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS AND VISITORS FORUM]

MR. MAGNER.

FESTIVAL, EVEN SOMEHOW MOTIVATE THOSE THAT WANT TO, TO HAVE THEIR OWN BOOTHS AND LET'S GET TO KNOW ALL THESE VARIOUS CULTURES AND RELIGIONS.

UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

WE'RE NOT IN RECEIPT OF ANY CARDS IN ADVANCE OF THE 5:00 PM DEADLINE, HOWEVER, WE DO HAVE ONE SPEAKER SIGNED UP AND A PUBLIC HEARING, SO I'LL READ THE FOLLOWING INSTRUCTIONS, UH, DURING THIS PORTION OF THE COUNCIL MEETING, 30 MINUTES IS ALLOCATED FOR THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO PROVIDE COMMENTS TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON AGENDA ITEMS. IF YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK ON A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM, PLEASE WAIT UNTIL THAT PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN.

IF THERE'S TIME LEFT DURING THE INITIAL 30 MINUTE MINUTES ALLOCATED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, THE REMAINING TIME WILL BE PROVIDED AS A VISITORS FORUM OPEN TO ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON ANY TOPIC IN WHICH THE SUBJECT MATTER IS WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE CITY.

IF THE FULL 30 MINUTES ALLOCATED FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENT IS REACHED, THEN SPEAKERS WHO HAVE SUBMITTED A PUBLIC COMMENT CARD MAY SPEAK AT THE VISITOR'S FORM SCHEDULED.

AT THE END OF THE MEETING, ALL SPEAKERS SHOULD COMPLETE A PUBLIC COMMENT CARD AND SUBMIT IT TO THE CITY SECRETARY.

SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER THEY'RE RECEIVED.

WHEN YOUR NAME IS CALLED, PLEASE STEP TO THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

ALL SPEAKERS WILL BE LIMITED TO A MAXIMUM OF FIVE MINUTES AS INDICATED BY THE TIMERS.

WHEN THE TIMER BEEPS, THE SPEAKERS SHOULD CONCLUDE THEIR COMMENTS PROMPTLY.

SPEAKERS MUST, MUST NOT PHYSICALLY APPROACH MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL OR STAFF, OR SHOULD AND SHOULD REMAIN AT THE PODIUM DURING THEIR COMMENTS.

SPEAKERS WITH HANDOUTS MUST PROVIDE THEM TO THE CITY SECRETARY FOR DISTRIBUTION SPEAKERS.

SUBMITTING COMMENTS ON THE SAME TOPIC ARE ENCOURAGED TO REDUCE REPETITIVE REMARKS BY INDICATING THEIR COMMENTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN ADDRESSED.

OR BY SELECTING A REPRESENTATIVE SPEAKER.

THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT PROHIBITS THE CITY COUNCIL FROM DISCUSSING OR TAKING ACTION ON ITEMS THAT ARE NOT POSTED ON THE AGENDA.

CITY COUNCIL AND STAFF WILL NOT AFFIRM OR OPPOSE ANY SPEAKER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.

THE MAYOR OR CITY MANAGER MAY RESPOND WITH FACTS OF POLICY OR DIRECT CITY STAFF TO RESPOND TO THE SPEAKER.

AFTER THE MEETING, THE AUDIENCE IS ASKED TO REFRAIN FROM APPLAUDING OTHER EXPRESSIONS OF SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION.

A COPY OF THE COUNCIL RULES OF ORDER AND PROCEDURE IN THESE GUIDELINES MAY BE FOUND ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE.

AT THIS TIME, I'D ALSO LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE TO SIGN THIS THEIR CELL PHONE FOR THE DURATION OF THE MEETING.

MS. NEER MAYOR, WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER SIGNED UP.

CHARLIE NEWTON.

MR. NEWTON, WILL YOU TURN ON YOUR MICROPHONE? I THINK MAYBE IT'S NOT ON MY .

CAN THIS SLIDE? I CAN'T GET UP HERE.

OKAY, GOOD.

CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? I I SURE CAN.

IF YOU'LL START AGAIN WITH YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE.

CHARLIE NEWTON, 2106 GOLDENROD DRIVE IN THE BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORHOOD OF DUCK CREEK.

THANK YOU, SIR.

I WATCHED THE VIDEO OF THE WILDFLOWER PRESENTATION LAST WEEK, AND FOR 18 YEARS NOW, WE'VE BEEN PRAYING FOR THE CITY OF RICHARDSON WITH A GROUP CALLED PRAY RICHARDSON.

AND IT SEEMS TO ME I WATCHED THAT VIDEO AND SUNDAY IS LACKING AND I HEARD EVEN ORPHAN BRING UP THE IDEA.

IS THERE ANYTHING YOU CAN ADD TO SUNDAY? WELL, RICHARDSON IS KNOWN FOR ALL THE RELIGIONS OF THE WORLD EXIST IN THIS CITY.

WHY CAN'T WE DO SOMETHING SPECIAL WITH THIS 2026 SUNDAY AND INVITE THE CHURCHES AND THE RELIGIONS OF RICHARDSON TO COME AND BE A PART OF THE WILDFLOWER

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AND IF THERE WAS EVER A TIME IN AMERICA WHEN WE NEED GOD, IT IS NOW.

GOD IS THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN CHANGE A MAN'S HEART, MIND, AND SOUL.

AND THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS IN THIS WORLD RIGHT NOW, ESPECIALLY IN AMERICA, THAT REALLY DON'T KNOW TRUTH.

AND I JUST BELIEVE IT WOULD BE SO MEANINGFUL TO OUR CITY IF WE HAD SOME CHRISTIAN GROUPS.

AND WHEN THIS THOUGHT FIRST HIT ME, THE DAY IT HIT ME TO SUGGEST THIS TO YOU, FOUR TIMES I GOT IN MY CAR, TURNED ON CHRISTIAN RADIO AND LAUREN DAGEL WAS SINGING, SHE'S AN ARTIST FROM LOUISIANA.

SHE HAS SOME OF THE TOP CHRISTIAN SONGS.

AND I WOULD HIGHLY RE RECOMMEND IF Y'ALL WOULD CONSIDER DOING THIS, THAT SHE INVITED TO SING.

DURING THAT.

I WOULD LIKE TO ALL THOSE RELIGIOUS LEADERS OF OUR CITY HAVE FIVE OR 10 MINUTES ON STAGE TO GIVE A SHORT TESTIMONY ABOUT WHO THEY ARE, WHY THEY ARE, AND EVEN IF THEY LIKE, GIVE A SCRIPTURE THAT'S VERY MEANINGFUL TO 'EM.

AND I WILL TELL YOU MY SCRIPTURE TONIGHT THAT I HAVE LIVED BY ALL MY LIFE.

AND IT'S PROVERBS THREE, FIVE AND SIX, TRUST IN THE LORD WITH ALL YOUR HEART AND LEAN NOT UNTO THINE ON UNDERST IN ALL THY WAYS, ACKNOWLEDGE GOD AND HE SHALL DIRECT YOUR PAST.

I WILL JUST TELL YOU THIS QUICK TESTIMONY.

WHEN I WAS THREE WEEKS OLD, MY EARTHLY FATHER DIED.

WHEN I WAS OLD ENOUGH TO MAKE MY OWN DECISIONS, I REALIZED GOD IS YOUR FATHER, CHARLIE.

HE'S THE FATHER OF EVERY HUMAN BEING ON THIS EARTH.

WHETHER YOU ACCEPT IT, WHETHER YOU RECEIVE IT OR NOT, HE CREATED EVERY ONE OF US.

AND I DECIDED GOD IS MY FATHER.

I WILL OBEY GOD AND EVERYTHING'S GONNA WORK OUT.

AND I WANT TO TELL YOU, I COULD WRITE MULTIPLE BOOKS ABOUT WHAT GOD HAS DONE FOR ME.

BUT IN PRAYING FOR THIS CITY FOR 18 YEARS, I AM CONVINCED WE ARE LEADERS.

OTHER CITIES LOOK TO US FOR GUIDANCE.

I BELIEVE NO DOUBT GOD WANTS TO MAKE RICHARDSON A CITY OF LIGHT TO SHOW TEXAS SHOW AMERICA.

AND BECAUSE WE ARE SO INTERNATIONAL TO SHOW THE WORLD WHAT IT MEANS WHEN BROTHERS AND SISTERS COME TOGETHER AT THE CHURCH, I ATTEND FIRST BAPTIST DALLAS.

I'M ON THE MAY I HAVE A MINUTE OR TWO, IF YOU'LL JUST TAKE ABOUT 30 SECONDS OR SO TO WRAP UP MR. NEWTON, THAT'D BE GREAT.

I'M ON THE FIRST IMPRESSIONS TEAM AND WE HAVE PEOPLE FROM AROUND THE WORLD COME VISIT US EVERY SUNDAY.

THE SAME THING IS HAPPENING HERE IN THIS CITY BECAUSE OF HOW MULTICULTURAL WE ARE.

SO I'M PROPOSING THAT LET'S MAKE SUNDAY A SPECIAL DAY FOR RELIGION FOR GOD, AND BRING, LET THE CHURCH CHOIRS SING, LET PASTORS AND THOSE WHO WISH TO BE INVOLVED AND LET'S DO SOMETHING SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT THAN WE'VE EVER DONE BEFORE FOR THE GLORY OF GOD.

CAN I GET A AMEN? TH THANK YOU MR. NEWTON.

WHERE THE AMEN MS. NEER, ARE THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? NO OTHER CARDS.

MAYOR.

UH, IS THERE ANYONE IN ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT IS HOPING TO SPEAK THIS EVENING? ALRIGHT, UH, SEEING NONE, WE WILL MOVE ON TO

[5. PRESENTATION OF A PROCLAMATION TO HONEYWELL RICHARDSON FOR BEING AWARDED OSHA VOLUNTARY PROTECTION PROGRAM STAR STATUS]

ITEM NUMBER FIVE, UH, PRESENTATION OF A PROCLAMATION TO HONEYWELL.

RICHARDSON, DO WE HAVE ANYONE FROM HONEYWELL RICHARDSON HERE? OH, WONDERFUL.

UM, UH, HONEYWELL RICHARDSON FOR BEING AWARDED OSHA VOLUNTARY PROTECTION PROGRAM, STAR STATUS.

MR. MAGNER, UH, THANK YOU MAYOR.

UH, AS YOU MAKE YOUR WAY TO THE PODIUM, I

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I JUST WANNA WELCOME OUR GUESTS FROM HONEYWELL.

AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, UH, HONEYWELL HAS BEEN A, A KEY PARTNER HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY SINCE THE MID 1980S.

UM, AND HIS AND SIGNIFICANTLY AND HISTORICALLY, UH, WAS THE LOCATION OF NASA'S FIRST TWO-WAY RADIO BROADCAST.

SO A REALLY IMPORTANT, UH, UH, PARTNER FOR THE CITY OF RICHARDSON.

AS YOU'RE GONNA HEAR FROM THE MAYOR, THEY RECENTLY RE REACHED SOME RARE AIR WITH A, UH, VERY SPECIAL DESIGNATION.

AND SO MAYOR, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU, UH, TO OUR FRIENDS AT HONEYWELL AFTER, UH, THE MAYOR PRESENTS YOU THE PROCLAMATION, WE'LL INVITE THE ENTIRE CITY COUNCIL UP SO THAT YOU CAN TAKE A PHOTO, UH, TO COMMEMORATE THE EVENING.

THANK YOU, MR. MAGNER.

IT'S, UH, ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO BE ABLE TO KIND OF RECOGNIZE, UM, UH, PEOPLE, BUT ALSO FROM TIME TO TIME ARE CORPORATE RESIDENTS THAT DO SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY, UH, AMAZING OR NOTEWORTHY.

SO I'VE GOT A PROCLAMATION HERE WHERE THERE'LL BE A WHOLE LOT OF WEAR ASS AND YOU'LL GET TO HEAR ABOUT THE SPECIAL THINGS THAT HONEYWELL HAS DONE, UH, TO EARN THIS RECOGNITION.

AND THEN AFTERWARDS, WE'LL DO A, A PICTURE WITH THE, UH, UH, THE COUNCIL, UH, TO COMMEMORATE THIS DAY.

SO I'LL START OFF BY SAYING, WHEREAS HONEYWELL'S RICHARDSON, TEXAS SITE HAS DEMONSTRATED AN OUTSTANDING COMMITMENT TO THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF ITS EMPLOYEES EARNING THE PRESTIGIOUS VOLUNTARY PROTECTION PROGRAM, VPP STAR DESIGNATION FROM THE US OCCUPATIONAL SAFETY AND HEALTH ADMINISTRATION, WHICH IS ALSO KNOWN AS OSHA.

AND WHEREAS THE OSHA VPP STAR STATUS IS THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF RECOGNITION GRANTED TO ORGANIZATIONS WITH EXEMPLARY SAFETY AND HEALTH MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS PLACING HONEYWELL RICHARDSON'S FACILITY AMONG AN ELITE GROUP OF APPROXIMATELY 2000 WORK SITES NATIONWIDE, REPRESENTING LESS THAN 1% OF ALL WORKPLACES IN THE UNITED STATES.

AND WHEREAS HONEYWELL RICHARDSON SITE HAS ACHIEVED THE REMARKABLE MILESTONE OF NEARLY NINE YEARS WITHOUT A RECORDABLE WORKPLACE INJURY, REFLECTING A CULTURE OF CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT, ACCOUNTABILITY, AND DEDICATION TO EMPLOYEE WELLBEING.

AND WHEREAS THIS RECOGNITION IS NOT ONLY A TESTAMENT TO HONEYWELL'S SAFETY EXCELLENCE, BUT ALSO TO THE LEADERSHIP, TEAMWORK AND COMMITMENT OF ITS EMPLOYEES AND MANAGEMENT WHO MAKE SAFETY A SHARED PRIORITY EVERY DAY.

AND WHEREAS HONEYWELL CONTINUES TO INVEST IN THE FUTURE OF ITS RICHARDSON FACILITY, INCLUDING PLANS TO UPGRADE ITS SIX INCH WAFER FABRICATION LINE TO AN EIGHT INCH FAB AND EXPAND CAPACITY OVER THE NEXT TWO YEARS, ENHANCING LOCAL INNOVATION JOBS AND ECONOMIC GROWTH.

NOW, THEREFORE, I AMIR OMAR, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF RICHARDSON, TEXAS, DO HEREBY RECOGNIZE AND COMMEND HONEYWELL'S RICHARDSON FACILITY FOR ITS EXCEPTIONAL ACHIEVEMENT IN EARNING OSHA'S VPP STAR DESIGNATION AND FOR THE CONTINUED LEADERSHIP AND ADVANCING WORKPLACE SAFETY AND TECHNOLOGICAL EXCELLENCE.

CONGRATULATIONS, HONEYWELL.

WE'RE GONNA HAVE, UH, HERE BECAUSE WE SHOW WE ALRIGHT, AND LOOK FORWARD, EVERYBODY READY? HERE WE GO.

ALRIGHT, WELL, WE WILL MOVE

[6. REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE CARES CLASS 2025 PROGRAM AND PRESENTATION OF CERTIFICATES]

ON TO ITEM NUMBER SIX.

UH, REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE CARES CLASS 2025 PROGRAM AND PRESENTATION OF CERTIFICATES.

MR. MAGNER.

THANK YOU, MAYOR COUNCIL, WE ARE SUPER EXCITED TONIGHT TO WELCOME THE, UH, PARTICIPANTS OF THE 2025 CARES PROGRAM.

UM, SO HAPPY THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO ATTEND AND HOPE AND BRING YOUR FAMILY.

IT'S ALWAYS REALLY EXCITING TO SEE THE PRIDE, UH, THAT, THAT YOU HAVE IN, IN WANTING YOUR FAMILY AND FRIENDS TO SHARE IN THAT, THAT, UM, BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO AMY, I JUST WANT TO, UM, RECOGNIZE THIS IS, UH, THE SEVENTH YEAR, UM, OF THE CARES PROGRAM.

AND AMY HAS, UH, SPEARHEADED

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THIS EFFORT EACH OF THOSE YEARS, UH, SINCE ITS INCEPTION, AND HAS DONE A REALLY, A TREMENDOUS JOB EACH AND EVERY YEAR.

EVERY YEAR FINDS NEW WAYS TO MAKE IT MORE INTERESTING AND, UH, CREATIVE, UH, WAYS OF WORKING WITH THE DEPARTMENTS TO BRING, UH, OUR, OUR, OUR PARTICIPANTS UP TO DATE ON THE THINGS THAT NOT ONLY WE'RE WORKING ON, BUT UH, THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO IN THE FUTURE.

AND SO, AMY, UH, ON BEHALF OF, UH, ALL, ALL OF THE DEPARTMENT HEADS, ALL THE STAFF THAT, UM, THAT WORK WITH YOU, UM, TO, TO OFFER THIS TO OUR RESIDENTS, THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO AND, AND GREAT JOB.

SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU FOR, UH, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION AND, UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL AND TO THE GUEST, UH, UM, AFTER AMY PRESENTS MAYOR WILL ASK YOU AND THE COUNCIL, UH, TO GO TO THE FRONT OF THE ROOM.

MAYOR, YOU'LL STAND NEXT TO AMY AND, AND PASS ALONG THE, UM, UH, CERTIFICATE OF COMPLETION TO EACH OF THE PARTICIPANTS.

AND THEN YOU'LL BE ABLE TO, UH, UM, PARTICIPANTS, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO KIND OF SHAKE HANDS WITH THE REMAINDER OF THE COUNCIL.

AND THEN WE'LL ASK EVERYBODY TO GATHER ON THIS SIDE OF THE ROOM UNTIL EVERYONE'S RECEIVED THEIR CERTIFICATE.

AND THEN WE'LL TAKE ONE BIG GROUP PHOTO, UH, WITH THE, UH, WITH THE CLASS IN THE, IN THE COUNCIL.

SO, UM, THAT'LL BE HOW WE'LL APPROACH THIS, UH, MOVING FORWARD.

SO AMY, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU MR. MAGNER AND THANK YOU COUNSEL FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF THIS PROGRAM.

WELCOME CLASS 2025 .

EXCITED TO HAVE YOU HERE.

I WANNA THANK YOU FOR DEDICATING YOUR TIME TO THIS CLASS TO LEARN MORE ABOUT YOUR COMMUNITY.

I HOPE YOU CAN ENJOY REMINISCING AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION TONIGHT.

AND I'M HAPPY THAT YOU CAN SHARE THIS WITH YOUR FAMILY AND FRIENDS.

HERE IS OUR, OUR CLASS PROUDLY DISPLAYING THEIR, THEIR RICHARDSON CARE SHIRTS AT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

AND HERE IS WHO THEY ARE.

SO WE HAVE, UM, LET'S SEE, SIX IN DISTRICT ONE, SEVEN IN DISTRICT TWO, SIX ARE IN DISTRICT THREE, FIVE IN DISTRICT FOUR AND TWO NON-RESIDENTS WHO WORK IN RICHARDSON IN OUR AGE BRACKETS.

WE HAVE TWO WHO ARE 18 TO 25, 8 WHO ARE 26 TO 35, 9 WHO ARE 36 TO 55 AND SEVEN WHO ARE 55 PLUS IN THE RESIDENCE CATEGORY.

WE HAVE EIGHT WHO HAVE LIVED HERE IN RICHARDSON ONE TO FIVE YEARS.

AND THAT IS OUR LARGEST CATEGORY.

EACH OF THE REMAINING CATEGORIES ARE EITHER, UM, THREE OR FOUR YEARS.

AND THEN WE HAVE THE TWO NON-RESIDENTS FOR EMPLOYMENT.

WE HAVE NINE WHO ARE EMPLOYED IN RICHARDSON, NINE EMPLOYED OUTSIDE OF RICHARDSON AND EIGHT THAT ARE EITHER RETIRED, SELF-EMPLOYED OR DO NOT WORK.

SO NOW LET ME TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROGRAM.

IT WAS EIGHT WEEKS, SIX DIFFERENT VENUES, 18 PRESENTATIONS, SEVEN TOURS, FIVE DEMONSTRATE DEMONSTRATIONS, FOUR SCENARIOS OR GAMES, AND TWO CASE STUDY ACTIVITIES.

AND THIS IS THEM AT PUBLIC WORKS NIGHT OR PUBLIC SERVICES NIGHT IN FRONT OF THE WATER TOWER.

AND THEY ALWAYS HAVE THE CARES WELCOMING SIGN THERE FOR THEM.

SO OUR FIRST SESSION WAS SESSION ONE, THE RICHARDSON WAY THAT WAS HELD RIGHT HERE IN THIS ROOM.

AND IT WAS WITH CITY MANAGER'S, OFFICE, CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE, THE BUDGET OFFICE, AND HUMAN RESOURCES.

THERE ARE A COUPLE PHOTOS FROM THAT EVENING.

AND THEN HERE ARE SOME QUOTES AND I'LL TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE EVENING WHILE YOU'RE READING THOSE QUOTES.

SO THIS SESSION LAYS THE FOUNDATION FOR ALL OTHER PRESENTATIONS PARTICIPANTS.

PARTICIPANTS HEARD FROM OUR CITY MANAGER ABOUT COUNCIL MANAGER FORM OF GOVERNMENT, VARIOUS AREAS OF CONCENTRATION THAT THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE FOCUSES ON SEVERAL CITY PROJECTS AND ECONOMIC DEVELOP DEVELOPMENT INITIATIVES.

AND THEY ALSO HEARD ABOUT THE IMPACTS OF STATE LEGISLATION ON LOCAL GOVERNMENT.

THEY HEARD FROM ME ABOUT RECORDS MANAGEMENT, CITY COUNCIL SUPPORT, ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATION, AND I INFORMED THEM ABOUT THE CITY COUNCIL AND BOARD AND COMMISSION QUALIFICATIONS AND OPPORTUNITIES, OUR BUDGET OFFICER BUDGET.

BOB GAVE AN OVERVIEW OF THE YEAR-ROUND BUDGETING PROCESS AND PRESENTED A CHALLENGING, UH, SET OF DECISIONS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HAS TO MAKE.

THEN THEY HEARD FROM OUR HR DIRECTOR, JOSE MORENO, ABOUT HR RECRUITS, UM, HOW HR RECRUITS, RETAINS AND SUPPORTS CITY EMPLOYEES.

SESSION TWO WAS HELD AT THE SENIOR CENTER AND IT WAS CALLED PREP AND READ, WHICH STANDS FOR PARKS, RECREATION EVENTS AND PROGRAMS, AND READ, DISCOVER, AND ENJOY.

HERE'S SOME PHOTOS FOR THAT EVENING.

AT THIS SESSION, THEY HEARD ABOUT PARKS OPERATIONS AND EVENTS, AND THEN THEY DID A PARKS BUDGETING ACTIVITY.

THEY ALSO GOT TO SEE THE FOUR PLANS AND MODEL OF THE LIBRARY RENOVATIONS, AND THEY HEARD ABOUT THE ROVER VAN AND PLAYED A GAME ABOUT LIBRARY OPERATIONS.

HERE ARE QUOTES FROM SESSION TWO.

CLASS MEMBERS ARE ALWAYS INTERESTED TO SEE HOW MANY SERVICES THAT THE LIBRARY OFFERS, EVEN IF THEY'VE BEEN TO THE LIBRARY BEFORE.

AND THEN THEY ALWAYS FIND THE PARKS BUDGETING ACT TO BE VERY EYEOPENING.

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SESSION THREE WAS HELD AT POLICE HEADQUARTERS AND CLASS MEMBERS HEARD FROM CHIEF TITTLE BEFORE TAKING A TOUR OF THE FACILITY.

THEY ALSO SAW DEMONSTRATIONS FROM THE FORENSICS UNIT, POLICE, DRONES, THE SWAT TEAM AND THE CANINE UNIT.

HERE'S SOME OF THEM WITH THE, UH, SWAT VEHICLE AND THERE'S OFFICER WENDLING WITH HONDO.

AND THEN THEY'RE ALSO LEARNING ABOUT THE FORENSIC LAB.

AND WE MIGHT HAVE A NEW RECRUIT THERE IN THE FITNESS CENTER.

HERE'S SOME QUOTES FROM THAT EVENING.

THE CLASS ALWAYS ENJOYS THIS EVENING.

IT'S DEDICATED TO PD OPERATIONS.

THE WHOLE EVENING.

THEY GET TO ENGAGE WITH MANY MEMBERS OF THE DEPARTMENTS.

UM, THEY BREAK INTO SMALLER GROUPS AND GO ON TOURS, SO THEY GET TO ASK LOTS OF QUESTIONS.

UM, THEY LEARNED ABOUT VARIOUS OPERATIONS TECHNOLOGY THAT THE DEPARTMENT HAS AVAILABLE TO THEM.

AND UM, WE ALSO, IN, IN THIS CLASS, WE HAD A FEW PEOPLE WHO HAD NEVER PARTICIPATED IN NATIONAL NIGHT OUT.

SO THEY GOT TO HEAR ABOUT THAT AND HOW COMPETITIVE WE ARE.

AND SO IT MADE THEM WANT TO PARTICIPATE.

SO I THINK WE HAD SOME NEW, NEW PEOPLE THIS TIME PARTICIPATING IN THAT.

HERE IS SESSION FOUR.

THIS WAS HEALTH, SAFETY AND COMMUNITY.

AND THIS WAS HELD AT THE FIRE TRAINING CENTER.

THEY HEARD FROM COMMUNITY SERVICES, MUNICIPAL COURT HEALTH AND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.

HERE'S SOME PHOTOS FROM THAT EVENING.

AND HERE'S SOME QUOTES FROM THIS SESSION.

SO THE CLASS WATCHED A VIDEO FIRST ABOUT, UM, THE COURT OPERATIONS THAT WAS PRODUCED BY OUR VERY OWN CITV.

AND THEY LEARNED ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF JURY DUTY FROM OUR COURT ADMINISTRATOR KIM KS.

THEY HEARD FROM LINDSAY TURMAN ABOUT COMMUNITY SERVICES CODE COMPLIANCE AND A FUN GAME OF WHAT IS AND ISN'T A, A CODE VIOLATION.

AND AFTER THEIR MEAL, WHICH WAS LUCKILY, THEY ATE FIRST, UH, THEY HEARD FROM HEALTH DIRECTOR BILL ALSUP ABOUT MOSQUITOES, RESTAURANT INSPECTIONS AND ANIMAL SERVICES.

AND THEY ALSO GOT TO SEE PLANS AT THE ANIMAL SHELTER.

AND THEN THE EVENING ENDED WITH A GAME CALLED EXTREME EVENT THAT PUT CLASS MEMBERS IN AN EMERGENCY SCENARIO WHERE THEY HAD TO PLAY DIFFERENT ROLES AND THEY HAD TO MAKE A LOT OF QUICK DECISIONS ABOUT HOW TO TAKE CARE OF THE COMMUNITY.

SESSION FIVE WAS HELD AT THE SERVICE CENTER.

THIS CLASS, UM, HEARD FROM TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

THEY TOOK A TOUR TOUR OF THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT CENTER, THE SIGN SHOP, AND THEY ACTED AS COUNCIL MEMBERS AS THEY REVIEWED A ZONING CASE.

AND THESE WERE REAL CASES THAT THEY REVIEWED.

SO THEY, UM, HAD PREVIOUSLY BEEN DECIDED ON BY COUNSEL.

SO THEY GOT TO HEAR AFTER THEY MADE THEIR OWN DECISIONS, THEY GOT TO HEAR ABOUT, UM, HOW THAT CASE WAS APPROVED OR DENIED AND THE ELEMENTS OF THAT CASE.

HERE'S A COUPLE PHOTOS FROM THAT NIGHT AND HERE ARE THEIR QUOTES.

THIS CLASS REALLY ALWAYS EN EVERYBODY ALWAYS ENJOYS SEEING BEHIND THE SCENES OF THE TRAFFIC OPERATIONS CENTER AND, UM, THE ACTIVITY OF THE ZONING PROCESS.

IT REALLY DOES HELP THEM UNDERSTAND HOW THE PROCESS WORKS FOR ZONING.

SESSION SIX WAS BUILDING, MAINTAINING, AND SERVING RICHARDSON.

AND THIS ONE WAS HELD AT THE SERVICE CENTER WHERE THE CLASS WAS WELCOMED WITH A PARKING LOT FULL OF PUBLIC SERVICE EQUIPMENT AND A WELCOME SIGN.

I STARTED OUT THE EVENING WITH AN OVERVIEW OF VOLUNTEER OPPORTUNITIES.

I TALKED TO THEM ABOUT MORE ABOUT THE BOARD AND COMMISSION SERVICE ABOUT WILDFLOWER VOLUNTEERS AND ALL THE DIFFERENT VOLUNTEERING OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE HAVE THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

THEN THEY TOURED THE FLEET AND FACILITIES WAREHOUSE AND THE MECHANIC BAYS.

THEY TURNED, UH, TOWARD THE SCADA CENTER AND ALL THE EQUIPMENT AND DEMONSTRATIONS AND HANDS-ON OUTSIDE WITH THE VEHICLES.

AND HERE'S SOME FUN PHOTOS FROM THAT NIGHT.

AND THEY ACTUALLY GOT TO SIT IN, UM, I THINK THIS WAS ONE OF THE NEW TRUCKS.

I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT KIND OF TRUCK IT IS, BUT THEY GOT TO HONK THE HORN AND ALL THAT STUFF.

THE HO HORN IS VERY LOUD, .

ALL RIGHT, AND HERE'S SOME QUOTES FROM THAT EVENING.

AND I REALLY JUST LOVE THIS FIRST QUOTE, UM, THAT TALKS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, BEING MISTY-EYED FROM THE VARIOUS TEAM MEMBERS STANDING OUT THERE AT THEIR VEHICLES.

AND, AND IT WAS, IT IS GREAT TO SEE ALL OF THEM OUT THERE.

THEY REALLY ENJOY IT.

THEY LOVE HAVING THE CLASS COME THROUGH AND, UM, BEING ABLE TO TEACH THEM ABOUT WHAT THEIR EQUIPMENT DOES.

ALL RIGHT, AND THIS WAS SESSION SEVEN.

WE WERE BACK AT THE FIRE TRAINING CENTER AND THIS NIGHT WAS DEDICATED TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

THE CLASS HEARD FROM CHIEF VY AND THEN THEY SAW SEVERAL DEMONSTRATIONS.

HERE'S SOME PHOTOS FROM THAT NIGHT.

SO FIRST THEY SAW AN EMERGENCY SITUATION WITH AN UNRESPONSIVE PERSON FROM START TO FINISH.

UM,

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ONE OF THE MEMBERS GOT TO PERFORM CPR, THEN THEY WITNESSED AN EXTRACTION FROM A VEHICLE.

THEY GOT TO SEE HOW, UH, THEY GOT TO OPERATE THE FIRE HOSES AND PICK UP ALL THE EMERGENCY EQUIPMENT.

AND NEXT YOU'LL SEE A QUICK VIDEO.

SO THEY ALL GOT TO DO THAT.

AND HERE ARE SOME QUOTES FROM THAT EVENING.

AND I THINK WE HAVE MORE THAN A FEW WHO ARE PLANNING TO SIGN UP FOR THE CITIZENS OF FIRE ACADEMY.

SESSION EIGHT WAS OUR LAST SESSION.

IT WAS INFORMATIVE, CREATIVE COMMUNICATIONS AND PERFORMING ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT.

UM, THIS WAS HELD AT THE EISMAN CENTER.

THEY GOT TO DO A TOUR OF THE EISMAN CENTER AND SEE A PREVIEW OF THE UPCOMING SEASON.

THEN THEY HEARD FROM OUR COMMUNICATIONS ABOUT VARIOUS FORMS OF MEDIA THAT WE USE.

AND THEN THEY GOT TO SEE, UM, IN REAL TIME HOW AN INFORMATIVE VIDEO IS MADE.

UM, AND I'LL SHOW YOU A CLIP OF THAT IN JUST A MOMENT.

AND THEN THEY WERE ALSO GIVEN AN EMERGENCY SCENARIO, UM, TO WHERE THEY HAD TO DETERMINE WHEN AND HOW TO RELEASE INFORMATION TO CITIZENS.

SO I THINK THEY REALLY ENJOYED THAT ACTIVITY AS WELL.

HERE'S SOME PHOTOS FROM THAT EVENING AND HERE'S SOME QUOTES FROM THAT EVENING.

I THINK THEY REALLY ENJOYED THE TOUR.

UM, DAVID HELPS GIVE THE TOUR AT THE, AS THE EISMAN CENTER AND HE HAS A LOT OF HISTORY AND DETAIL ABOUT EVERYTHING.

SO THEY ENJOY GETTING TO, UH, JUST KIND OF GET INSIDE HIS MIND ABOUT THE, ABOUT THE CENTER.

UM, THEY WERE ALSO IMPRESSED WITH THE QUICK AND PROFESSIONAL WORK OF CARLOS WHO DID CREATED THE VIDEO FOR US.

WHILE WE WERE IN THE SESSION, WE ALSO HAD AN OPTIONAL, LET'S SEE IT TOUR.

THAT WAS ONE SATURDAY MORNING.

AND THAT WAS WITH ENGINEERING DIRECTOR COLE AND PUBLIC SERVICES DIRECTOR ERIC ROBINSON.

AND THEY, UM, THEY JOINED US ON THE TOUR.

THEY VISITED THE NORTH SIDE WATER TOWER.

THEY STOPPED AT THE NORTH SIDE PUMP STATION.

THEY GOT A TOUR OF THE LIBRARY UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND THEY VIEWED THE CITY HALL CONSTRUCTION.

AND ALONG THE WAY, THEY ALSO VISITED SEVERAL ROAD, SEVERAL ROAD PROJECTS.

SO HERE'S SOME PHOTOS FOR THAT FROM THAT TOUR.

AND, UH, THE FORM BOARDS DOWN THERE ARE THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS.

ALL RIGHT, NEXT I HAVE A VIDEO.

THIS IS A CLIP THAT CARLOS DID FOR US.

CARES HAS BEEN WONDERFUL.

EVERY PLACE THAT WE'VE GONE TO, THE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN FANTASTIC AND EAGER TO SHARE WITH US THEIR WORK AND WHAT THEY DO AND HOW THEY, UH, INTERACT WITH THE CITY OVERALL.

AND FOR ME, IT'S BEEN REALLY USEFUL GETTING TO KNOW THE DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY, THE DIFFERENT, UM, BUILDINGS AND FACILITIES THAT THE CITY HAS AND ALSO THE DIFFERENT VOLUNTEER PROGRAMS. THERE ARE THINGS THAT I'VE BEEN WANTING TO DO SINCE I WAS YOUNG THAT I NEVER THOUGHT I'D BE ABLE TO, THAT CARES HAS OPENED UP THE DOOR FOR.

SO VOLUNTEERING AT THE EISMAN CENTER OR THE CITIZENS FIRE ACADEMY, THE CITIZENS POLICE ACADEMY.

AND THEN JUST OTHER DIFFERENT BOARD GOVERNMENT VOLUNTEERING FOR THE BOARDS FOR CITY COUNCIL.

ALL THESE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS I WOULD'VE NEVER EVEN IMAGINED WERE AVAILABLE TO ME.

THIS HAS BEEN SO COOL TODAY.

I HAVE ENJOYED IT SO MUCH.

'CAUSE YOU KNOW, I CAME TO THE ORIENTATION AND THEY TOOK US TO THE DIFFERENT, UM, ARENAS, BUT WE DIDN'T GET TO SEE THE, THE BEHIND THE SCENES.

SO THAT HAS BEEN WONDERFUL TO GET TO SEE HOW THE, HOW THEY DO THAT.

I THINK THE PASSION THAT EVERYONE BRINGS TO THE DEPARTMENTS OR THE MUNICIPAL FUNCTIONS, UH, THAT WE'VE HAD PRESENTED TO US.

I HAVEN'T GONE TO A SINGLE ONE WHERE THERE HASN'T BEEN SOMEONE WHO'S VERY ANIMATED AND VERY ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT THE WORK THEY DO AND WHAT THEY PROVIDE TO THE CITY.

ALRIGHT, SO THIS IS OUR CLASS AGAIN AT THE EISMAN CENTER.

AND MARY, I JUST WANNA TAKE A MOMENT NOW TO, UH, THANK OUR STAFF FOR HELPING TO PUT THIS TOGETHER EACH YEAR.

IT TAKES SEVERAL DOZEN STAFF MEMBERS FROM EACH DEPARTMENT.

THEY SCHEDULED THE EVENING AND I THINK THEY REALLY DO A GREAT JOB AND IT COULDN'T BE DONE WITHOUT ALL OF THEM.

SO I APPRECIATE THEM AND ALL OF THEIR HELP.

AND A SPECIAL THANKS TO MY STAFF, CRYSTAL BROWN AND STEPHANIE HERNANDEZ, WHO HELPED PUT THIS TOGETHER AS WELL.

THEY HELPED SET UP AND THEY HELPED TAKE IT DOWN AND THEY COVER THE OFFICE WHEN I'M OUT DOING THESE THINGS.

UM, AND THEN THANK YOU MR. MAGNER AND THE CMO TEAM FOR THEIR SUPPORT OF THIS PROGRAM.

AND THEN FINALLY, REALLY THANK YOU COUNSEL FOR HAVING THE VISION OF THIS PROGRAM AND FOR PROMOTING IT AND SUPPORTING

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IT.

AND I'VE HAD THE PRIVILEGE TO GET TO KNOW ALL OF THESE CLASS MEMBERS OVER THE LAST EIGHT WEEKS.

AND I KNOW WE WILL SEE MANY OF THEM THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY IN VOLUNTEERING AND GETTING ENGAGED BECAUSE THAT'S, UH, THAT'S WHAT THEY LEARNED ABOUT.

AND SO THEY'RE VERY EXCITED TO, TO BE ENGAGED.

SO I REALLY WANNA APPLAUD YOU AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

ALL RIGHT, MAYOR.

NOW WE WILL PRESENT THEIR CERTIFICATES.

WONDERFUL.

SO YOU'D LIKE ME UP THERE WITH YOU AND THE COUNCIL OVER HERE TO THE SIDE SO WE CAN HAVE A GREETING LINE.

SO WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, COME UP HERE AND GET YOUR CERTIFICATE AND THEN IF YOU'LL JUST WAIT OVER THERE AND THEN WE'LL GET A GROUP PHOTO.

DANIELLE DAWSON, STEVEN GATES.

OMAR, ER, THANK YOU JENNIFER.

THANK YOU SIR.

PRESTON HUTCHERSON.

MARY JESS, JENNIFER JOHNSON.

LISA FER.

ANDREA LEWIS.

CONGRATULATIONS.

JAMES LUCAS, OF COURSE.

DINA MOORE.

MOORE.

CRAIG, GREGORY MURPHY.

RICARDO, ER CONGRATULATIONS ALEXANDER.

JOSEPH.

NEED ASHLEY OSBORNE.

KATELYN OSA, HAN PARK.

MARGIE RAINEY, I, CHARLES RENICK.

SCOTT, HOW ARE YOU? ? TIM SEAMAN.

THANK YOU HERE.

I APPRECIATE IT.

JULIE SCHNEIDER, THANK YOU.

AND PETER WILSON, CONGRATULATIONS ONCE AGAIN.

CARLY STERN,

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WE TAKE UP THANK YOU.

CLASS OF 2025.

CONGRATULATIONS.

ALL RIGHT, SO MA'AM, MA'AM, MA'AM, COME FORWARD WHEN I POINT TO YOU, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

MA'AM.

MA'AM, MA'AM, MA'AM, MA'AM, WE'RE GONNA FILL IN SPOTS RIGHT UP FRONT HERE.

WE DID NOT GET THE REST OF YOU COME IN AND YOU'RE GONNA FILL IN A SPOT IN THE 20 PLEASE.

WE'LL FILL IN THIS SIDE AND THEN JUST NO, YOU'RE FINE.

WE'LL HAVE YOU COME RIGHT OVER TO THIS SIDE.

SO, ALRIGHT.

GREG, DO YOU WANT THEM TO OPEN THEIR CERTIFICATES? YEAH.

WE'RE GONNA, UH, ADJUST THE AGENDA JUST A LITTLE BIT AND MOVE THE PUBLIC HEARING AHEAD OF THE HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT.

FRONT ROW.

YEAH, PLEASE OPEN YOUR, FOR THOSE OF YOU IN THE FRONT HERE, I CAN SEE DO WHAT? OFFICIAL VIOLATIONS.

BIG SMILE.

TAKING PICTURES RIGHT NOW.

ALRIGHT, KEEP SMILING, KEEP SMILING AND NO ONE ELSE IS ALLOWED.

ALL RIGHT, NOW WE GO.

MAYOR, IF I COULD JUST MAKE A QUICK ANNOUNCEMENT TO THE CLASS.

YES, Y'ALL ARE WELCOME TO GO BACK INTO THE RECEPTION ROOM AND FINISH THE FOOD.

THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE HEADED.

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ALL RIGHT,

[8. PUBLIC HEARING, ZONING FILE 25-16, AND CONSIDER ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF RICHARDSON, TEXAS, AMENDING THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE AND ZONING MAP OF THE CITY OF RICHARDSON, AS HERETOFORE AMENDED, BY GRANTING A CHANGE IN ZONING BY GRANTING A SPECIAL PERMIT FOR A DOG TRAINING CENTER FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 304 S. COTTONWOOD DR., RICHARDSON, TEXAS, ZONED O-M OFFICE DISTRICT.]

UH, AGENDA ITEM, UH, ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.

UH, SO WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, WHICH IS A PUBLIC HE PUBLIC HEARING ZONING FILE 25 DASH 16 AND CONSIDER ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A CHANGE IN ZONING BY GRANTING A SPECIAL PERMIT FOR A DOG TRAINING CENTER LOCATED AT 3 0 4 SOUTH COTTONWOOD DRIVE.

MR. MAGNER, UH, THANK YOU MAYOR.

OUR, UH, SENIOR PLANNER DEREK PETER IS GONNA LEAD THIS BRIEFING, BUT I WANNA, UH, THANK, UM, OUR, UH, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, DEAN FERGUS AND ASSISTANT DIRECTOR ANDREW RUG FOR BEING HERE AS WELL.

UM, AFTER DEREK'S PRESENTATION, UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THE APPLICANT IS HERE.

THEY HAVE A SHORT PRESENTATION THAT THEY'LL MAKE AND BE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE IN ADVANCE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SO AS SOON AS WE GET TO THE SLIDES, AND THIS IS HOW QUICKLY MAUREEN'S GONNA COVER THESE BY NOT .

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE ON THAT.

UH, DEREK, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU FOR BRIEFING.

UH, COMING OUT OF THIS BREEZEWAY.

YOU DAWN, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

SO THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL PERMIT AT THE LOCATION AT 303 0 4 SOUTH COTTONWOOD DRIVE.

THIS IS ON THE WEST SIDE OF COTTONWOOD.

THIS HAS BEEN DEVELOPED WITH A 5,200 SQUARE FOOT SINGLE STORY OFFICE BUILDING NORTH OF THE BUILDING ALONG COTTONWOOD, ALONG THE WEST SIDE OF COTTONWOOD ARE SIMILAR OFFICE BUILDINGS TO THE SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE ALONG KATE STAGECOACH DRIVE TO THE SOUTH IS A SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT.

THE WEST OF THIS DEVELOPMENT IS A COMMERCIAL SHOPPING CENTER, AND TO THE EAST IS COTTONWOOD CITY PARK.

THE PROPERTY IS ZONED OFFICE, AS IS THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH.

THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST HAS BEEN ZONED COMMERCIAL.

AND THEN THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE SOUTH AND SOUTHWEST IS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

SO A DOG TRAINING CENTER IS NOT LISTED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE AS AN UNLISTED USE, IT REQUIRES A SPECIAL PERMIT.

WHAT A GREAT DOG.

THE APPLICANTS, THEY PROVIDE ONE-ON-ONE AND GROUP TRAINING, WHICH WILL OPERATE INSIDE THE ENTIRE BUILDING.

THEY PLAN ON OCCUPYING THE ENTIRE ENTIRETY OF THE BUILDING.

UM, INTERIOR REMODELING WILL TAKE PLACE TO ACCOMMODATE THE NEW, UH, BUSINESS.

THE EXISTING LANDSCAPE AREA IN THE FRONT YARD OF THE BUILDING HAD ALREADY BEEN REPLACED WITH ASTROTURF TYPE OF ARTIFICIAL TURF BY THE PRIOR PROPERTY OWNERS.

SO IT IS ALREADY, UM, EQUIPPED WITH, UH, ASTROTURF, WHICH THEY SAID IS MORE CLEANLY AND MORE SANITARY AND EASIER TO MAINTAIN WHEN IT COMES TO PET WASTE.

THEY WILL ALSO HAVE A PET WASTE STATION DESIGN IN THAT FRONT YARD AREA.

UH, WHAT A GREAT DOG HAS PREVIOUSLY OPERATED IN THE CITY OF RICHARDSON.

THEY FIRST OPENED UP AT 6 75 NORTH GLENVILLE ROAD IN 2016 WHEN THEY FIRST RECEIVED A SPECIAL PERMIT.

THEN IN 2019, THEY EXPANDED THAT BUSINESS ACROSS THE STREET ON GLENVILLE, I'M SORRY, TO THE NEXT, UH, THE NEXT BUILDING OVER ON GLENVILLE.

AND THEY WERE APPROVED FOR AN EXPANSION OR ANOTHER SPECIAL PERMIT IN 2019.

UH, THEIR LEASE IN THAT FACILITY EXPIRED IN LATE 2024, AND THEY HAVE BEEN OPERATING OUT OF THEIR F THEIR FACILITIES IN FRISCO.

IN THE MEANTIME, THE DOG TRAINING CENTER SPECIAL PERMIT WOULD BE RESTRICTED TO THE FOLLOWING HOURS OF OPERATION AS PROPOSED MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY, 7:30 AM TO 8:30 PM AND FRIDAY THROUGH SUNDAY, 9:00 AM TO 5:00 PM THE SITE IS A LITTLE UNDER HALF AN ACRE.

THE BUILDING IS 5,200 SQUARE FEET.

THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE AN ESTABLISHED PARKING RATIO FOR DOG TRAINING CENTERS, BUT THE APPLICANT HAVE SAID, THEY HAS SAID THEY ANTICIPATE ONLY NEEDING AT MAXIMUM 15 SPACES DURING THEIR BUSIEST TIMES, AND THAT WOULD BE ENOUGH TO ACCOMMODATE THEIR, UH, THEIR GUESTS AND THEIR STAFF.

15 SPACES WOULD EQUATE TO A PARKING RATIO OF ONE SPACE PER 350 SQUARE FEET.

THIS SITE PROVIDES 32 PARKING SPACES IN TOTAL.

UH, 11 OF THOSE SPACES ARE SHARED WITH THE ADJACENT PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH.

THOSE ARE SHOWN IN, UH, PURPLE HERE.

BUT BETWEEN THE ONSITES PARKING AND THE, UH, THE ONSITE PARKING SHOULD PROVIDE ENOUGH PARKING SPACES AS 32 PARKING SPACES ARE PROVIDED.

AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE IS ON STREET PARKING ON COTTONWOOD DRIVE.

HERE ARE PHOTOS OF THAT BUILDING I SEEN FROM COTTONWOOD DRIVE AND THEN SEEN A LITTLE CLOSER LOOKING INTO THE INTERIOR BREEZEWAY OF THAT BUILDING, WHERE PREVIOUSLY YOU SEE THE DIFFERENT OFFICE TENANTS HAD THEIR FRONT DOORS,

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BUT THE OP, THE APPLICANT WILL OCCUPY THE ENTIRE BUILDING.

THIS IS THE SOUTH ELEVATION WHERE YOU SEE THEIR PARKING LOT.

AND THEN THE WEST ELEVATION, WHICH IS THE REAR OF THEIR PROPERTY, THERE'S ALSO A PARKING ROW BACK THERE ALONG THE REAR OF THEIR PARKING.

THE ENVISION RICHARDSON COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS DESIGNATED THIS AREA OR THIS PROPERTY AS COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL PLACE TYPE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL IS CHARACTERIZED BY LARGE SCALE, LARGE SCALE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ATTRACT REGIONAL TRAFFIC AND SHOPPING FOR SHOPPING AND RETAIL NEEDS, AS WELL AS SMALLER RETAIL BOUTIQUE STYLE SHOPPING OR OFFICE DESTINATIONS AND RETAIL AND OFFICE ARE CONSIDERED PRIMARY USES IN THIS PLACE.

TYPE, THIS IS THE REQUEST SUMMARY.

SHOULD THE CITY COUNCIL ACCEPT THE REQUEST AS PRESENTED, THE MOTION WOULD INCLUDE THESE SPECIAL CONDITIONS, MOST OF WHICH I HAVE ALREADY MENTIONED HERE.

UM, THERE WOULD BE AT LEAST ONE PET WASTE PICKUP STATION LOCATED IN FRONT YARD.

AS I MENTIONED.

ALSO, THE SPECIAL PERMIT WOULD BE LIMITED TO WHAT A GREAT DOG AS THE SOLE BUSINESS OPERATORS AS THE, AT THIS LOCATION, THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION VOTED ON AT THEIR OCTOBER 9TH MEETING TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST SEVEN ZERO.

AT THAT MEETING, WE DID RECEIVE ONE WRITTEN STATEMENT FROM AN ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER, UH, WHO IS NEUTRAL TO THE REQUEST IN THEIR LETTER, BUT THEY DID HAVE SIX SPECIFIC QUESTIONS IN THEIR LETTER THAT WERE ASKED AND ANSWERED AT THAT CPC MEETING.

AND IF THE CITY COUNCIL, UH, TONIGHT SHOULD TAKE ACTION, THE CITY COUNCIL MAY APPROVE THE FILE AS PRESENTED AND ORDINANCE AS PRESENTED WITH THESE CONDITIONS, AMENDED CONDITIONS, OR DENY THE REQUEST.

AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND THE APPLICANT HAS A SHORT PRESENTATION AS WELL.

ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? COUNCIL MEMBER BARRIOS.

UM, DEREK, ON WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT PARKING, EXCUSE ME, CAN YOU GO TO SLIDE FOUR WHERE IT SHOWS THE OVERHEAD? OKAY.

WHAT IF THEY WANTED TO COME IN AND SO, SO WE TALKED ABOUT LOWERING THE PARKING SPACES.

OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A LOT OF PARKING OUT.

SEE WHERE THAT'S GONNA BE AN ISSUE? BUT I GUESS COULD THEY COME IN AND ON THE WEST ELEVATION OR THE SOUTH ELEVATION, PUT A DOG RUN OR ENCLOSED THAT AREA OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT BY RIGHT.

IF THEY WERE TO, IT'S NOT SHOWN ON HERE.

SO IT, THAT WOULD THE, THE SITE PLAN IS TIED TO THE SPECIAL PERMIT, SO IT WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED.

THAT WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED.

SO THAT WOULD REQUIRE STAFF APPROVAL AT LAYER TIME.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF? ALRIGHT, IF THE APPLICANT'S HERE, WE'D BE HAPPY TO HAVE YOU PRESENT AS WELL.

HELLO, I'M MAUREEN PATAN, MY HUSBAND HAROLD IS HERE WITH ME AS WELL.

AND I'M GONNA TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR BUSINESS AND I'LL, DO YOU MIND GIVING US JUST A REFERENCE ADDRESS? OH, YEAH.

UH, SORRY ABOUT THAT.

NO PROBLEM.

83 79 SANTA CLARA DRIVE.

THAT'S IN DALLAS, TEXAS.

SO WE'RE WHAT A GREAT DOG TRAINING CENTER, UM, AS DEREK IS ALREADY TAKEN YOU THROUGH, WE'RE REQUESTING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR THIS ADDRESS.

IT'S A LOVELY BUILDING JUST ACROSS FROM THE PARK.

UM, LEMME TELL YOU JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT US.

UM, SO WE ARE POSITIVE REWARD-BASED DOG TRAINING.

WE'RE A FAMILY OWNED COMPANY.

WE'VE BEEN IN THE DALLAS AREA OPERATING FOR OVER 18 YEARS AT THIS POINT.

UH, WE'RE CURRENTLY IN FRISCO, WHERE WE'VE BEEN FOR 13 YEARS.

AND AS DEREK MENTIONED, WE PREVIOUSLY OPERATED IN RICHARDSON.

UH, RICHARDSON WAS A GREAT LOCATION FOR US.

WE WERE OVER ON GLENVILLE DRIVE FOR EIGHT YEARS.

UM, HAD A HUGE RENT INCREASE HIT US WHEN THE LEASE WAS UP, AND SO WE MOVED OUT.

BUT WE'VE BEEN ANXIOUS TO GET BACK TO RICHARDSON.

UM, UH, SOME OF THE DISCUSSION POINTS AROUND THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT, UM, ARE AROUND THE POTENTIAL ANIMAL IMPACT OF HAVING DOGS IN THE FACILITY AND SUCH.

SO WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT OUR PROGRAMS ARE PRIMARILY INDOORS IN OUR FREESTANDING BUILDING.

SO IN THIS BUILDING THAT WILL BE REMODELING, THERE'S GONNA BE TWO LARGE TRAINING RINGS.

AND IN THOSE RINGS WE HAVE BOTH GROUP CLASSES AND PRIVATE LESSONS.

AND THAT'S WHERE THE MOST OF THE TRAINING HAPPENS.

WE WILL INCIDENTALLY SOMETIMES ALSO BE OUT IN OUR PARKING LOT OR BEHIND OUR BUILDING, UH, WORKING ON VARIOUS THINGS.

BUT MOST OF THE TRAINING IS INDOORS.

UM, THE TYPES OF DOGS WE'RE TRAINING, IT'S A PET DOG PROGRAM.

SO IT'S FOLKS WANTING THEIR DOG TO STOP PULLING ON THE LEASH TO HELP, JUST TO HELP THEIR DOG FIT INTO THEIR FAMILY BETTER.

UH, WE DO REQUIRE THAT DOGS ARE FRIENDLY IN ORDER TO COME TO THE FACILITY.

IF SOMEONE HAS AN ISSUE WITH DOG AGGRESSION, THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN HELP WITH.

BUT WE DO THAT BY DISPATCHING TRAINERS TO PEOPLE'S HOMES.

SO IF A DOG HAS A BITE HISTORY, THEY'RE NOT INVITED INTO THE FACILITY, UM, OF COURSE THE DOGS MUST BE UP TO DATE ON VACCINATIONS AND ON LEASH AT ALL TIMES.

A FEW

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MORE QUICK FACTS.

UM, HOURS OF OPERATION.

WERE ALREADY STATED.

UH, TRAFFIC AND PARKING, WE ARE BY APPOINTMENT ONLY.

SO THERE IS A SMALL KINDA INCIDENTAL, UH, RETAIL COMPONENT IN OUR, UH, BUILDING.

AND IT'S REALLY JUST LIKE SUPPLIES FOR TRAINING.

SO BY AND LARGE, EVERYONE COMING TO THE BUILDING WILL BE COMING BY APPOINTMENT ONLY FOR THOSE CLASSES OR PRIVATE LESSONS THAT HAVE BEEN SCHEDULED.

AS FAR AS ANY CONCERNS WITH NOISE AND ACTIVITY, AGAIN, THE DOGS ARE ALWAYS ON LEASH.

UM, MOST OF OUR TRAINING SERVICES ARE INDOORS, AND THIS BUILDING IS A FREESTANDING BUILDING, SO WE DON'T SHARE A WALL WITH THE NEIGHBORS ON EITHER SIDE.

JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME EXAMPLES OF WHAT THE FACILITY'S LIKE, THESE PICTURES ARE FROM OUR FRISCO FACILITY WHERE WE'RE CURRENTLY OPERATING.

WE WILL BE MOVING OUT OF FRISCO AND INTO THIS NEW BUILDING ONCE IT'S REMODELED AND BACK IN RICHARDSON.

THE BUILDING ITSELF, BOTH INDOORS AND OUT, A VERY NEAT AND PROFESSIONAL APPEARANCE.

WE KEEP IT SPARKLING CLEAN.

ALL THE TRAINING AREAS ARE NON-SLIP.

UM, RUBBER FLOORING.

OUR OUTDOOR POTTY AREA, THAT'S THE BOTTOM RIGHT CORNER IS THAT ASTROTURF SECTION WITH THE PET WASTE.

IT'LL BE VERY SIMILAR OVER AT THE COTTONWOOD FACILITY.

WE WERE FORTUNATE, THE PREVIOUS OWNER HAS ALREADY PUT IN THE, UM, THE TURF, THE SIMULATED TURF OUT FRONT, AND WE DISINFECT THAT EVERY DAY.

OUR CLIENTS ARE EXCELLENT ABOUT PICKING UP AFTER THEIR DOGS, BUT OUR STAFF ALSO HAS ON THEIR DAILY CHECKLIST TO GO DO A ROUND TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING GOT PICKED UP, EVERYTHING'S CLEAN, AND TO DO THAT DAILY DISINFECTANT.

SO IT'S, IT'S KEPT VERY NICE.

UM, WE'VE BEEN GREAT NEIGHBORS IN BOTH OF OUR LOCATIONS OVER THE 18 YEARS WE'VE BEEN IN THE AREA AND WE CERTAINLY PLAN TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT.

WE DO HAVE LIMITED TRAFFIC FLOW, UH, WITH MORE THAN AMPLE PARKING ON THE SITE WHERE WE CURRENTLY ARE IN FRISCO AS WELL AS WHERE WE ARE GONNA BE ON COTTONWOOD.

UH, WE DO KEEP OUR OPERATIONS NEAT, QUIET AND PROFESSIONAL.

UM, WE'RE AN ASSET TO YOUR COMMUNITY.

WE DO HELP, UM, AREA FAMILIES WITH THEIR DOGS AND HELP THOSE DOGS, UM, FIT INTO THEIR HOME LIFE AND CREATE A HAPPY HOME LIFE FOR THOSE FAMILIES.

AND WE HAVE AN EXCELLENT REPUTATION OF COLLABORATING WITH LOCAL BUSINESSES.

SO IN RICHARDSON IN PARTICULAR, NEARLY IF NOT ALL, EVERY VETERINARIAN IN RICHARDSON, UH, REFERS TO US FOR OUR SERVICES.

WE HAVE AN EXCELLENT REPUTATION AND WE ALSO HAVE PARTNERED WITH THE RICHARDSON ANIMAL SHELTER IN THE PAST, PROVIDING THEM TRAINING SERVICES AS WELL AS DONATIONS AND SUCH.

UM, WHAT QUESTIONS DO YOU HAVE FOR US COUNCIL? ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL MEMBER CORCORAN.

I THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.

NOT THAT IT'S EXCEPTIONALLY PERTINENT TO MY VOTE ON THE CASE, BUT JUST REAL QUICK, I WANNA UNDERSTAND THE TIMELINE OF YOU MOVING OUT OF RICHARDSON, UP TO FRISCO AND THEN BACK.

JUST 'CAUSE YOU SAY THAT YOU LEFT YOUR LEASE IN RICHARDSON IN 2015 AND WENT TO FRISCO.

I, OH NO, IT WAS, UH, 2024.

THE END OF 2024.

SO IT WAS LIKE THIS PAST DECEMBER IT WAS UP.

SO WE HAD THE TWO, WE HAD THE TWO LOCATIONS, RICHARDSON AND FRISCO.

RICHARDSON LEASE WAS UP, SO WE CONSOLIDATED INTO FRISCO, BUT THAT LEASE IS UP NOW IN JANUARY.

I SEE.

AND WE'RE TIRED OF LEASING.

WE WANNA MAKE AN INVESTMENT IN A COMMUNITY, GET A BUILDING, GET ESTABLISHED AND STAY THERE.

SO.

SO, OH, THAT'S AWESOME.

SO THIS WOULD BE A PERMANENT YES.

IDEALLY PERMANENT HOME.

YEAH, MOVING'S PAINFUL.

WE WANNA GET SOMEWHERE.

AND DAY.

OH ME.

I KNOW.

COUNCIL MEMBER BARRIOS.

TWO QUESTIONS.

UM, YOU SAID MOST OF THE TRAINING IS CONDUCTED INDOORS.

CAN YOU GIVE US AN IDEA OF WHAT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OUTDOOR TRAINING AND INDOOR TRAINING IS? AND MAYBE A PERCENTAGE, LIKE IS MOST 51% OR IS MOST 95% OF THE TRAINING IS INDOORS.

SO I MEAN, OFF THE TOP I WOULD TELL YOU, UM, 90% PLUS OF THE TRAINING IS INDOORS.

AND THE KINDS OF TRAINING THAT WOULD HAPPEN INDOORS WILL BE BOTH GROUP CLASSES AND PRIVATE LESSONS ON KIND OF BASIC PET MANNERS KINDS OF THINGS.

SO WALKING NICELY ON LEASH, NOT BEING, UM, REACTIVE TO OTHER DOGS, YOU KNOW, BARKING AND PULLING AND SUCH.

OF COURSE, BASIC COMMAND, SIT DOWN, STAY COME WHEN CALLED, LEAVE IT, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

ALL THAT IS GONNA HAPPEN INDOORS IN THOSE PRIVATE TRAINING RINKS.

ONCE PEOPLE HAVE THAT KIND OF UNDER THEIR BELT AND THE DOGS ARE DOING PRETTY GOOD, THEY'RE ANXIOUS TO GET OUT INTO, WE CALL IT OUT IN THE WILD TO GET OUT INTO MORE REAL WORLD, UM, EXPERIENCES.

SO WE'LL GO OUT AND WE MIGHT WORK OUTSIDE IN THE PARKING LOT A LITTLE BIT.

ONE REALLY COMMON THING WE HELP PEOPLE WITH IS HAVING THEIR DOGS LOAD UP IN THEIR CARS.

A LOT OF DOGS AREN'T EAGER TO JUMP IN A CAR OR THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT AFRAID TO, AND SOMETIMES THEY'RE LARGE DOGS WHERE IT'S DIFFICULT TO PICK THEM UP.

SO WE'LL GO OUT IN THE PARKING LOT AND WORK WITH THAT CLIENT ON GETTING THEIR DOG TO HAPPILY JUMP IN THE CAR.

IF THERE'S NO ANY QUE NOT ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS.

MS. NEER? I DON'T HAVE ANY CARDS, MAYOR.

YOUR BUSINESS AND I FOUND IT TO BE EXCEPTIONALLY PROFESSIONAL AND IT REALLY IS A GREAT ASSET AND I'M GLAD THAT YOU'RE INVESTING IN OUR CITY.

ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE HERE TO ASK QUESTIONS OR TO SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL? OKAY.

IF THERE AREN'T ANY, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE, UH, THANK YOU.

I I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, BUT FIRST I WILL SAY THAT MY DOG ARCHIE IS A GRADUATE OF MANNERS ONE OH .

AND SO I'M, I UNDERSTAND THIS BUSINESS.

I THINK IT'S A REALLY GREAT ASSET TO THE CITY.

UM, AS SOMEONE I, I SERVICE LEE AS UN TOLD OUR ANIMAL SERVICES ADVISORY COMMISSION.

AND SO I'M, UH, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY HAVE A SOFT PLACE IN MY HEART FOR ANIMALS, BUT I PARTICULARLY KNOW

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UM, AND YOU'RE COMING BACK TO RICHARDSON, THAT'S REALLY, REALLY GREAT NEWS.

SO I GLADLY MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ZONING FILE 25.

OH, WE NEED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, HEARING.

FIRST, I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

FIRST MOVE, MOVE TO OPPOSED TO PUBLIC HEARING.

UH, YES.

MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHIN.

I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER.

BARRIOS, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? NO, I DISCUSSION AFTERWARDS.

UH, ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION THOUGH? NONE.

UH, ALL IN FAVOR? ALL POSED.

THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

AND SO NOW WE CAN HAVE SOME DISCUSSION AMONG THE COUNCIL.

UH, COUNCIL MEMBER BARRIOS.

UM, SO JUAN, ALONG WITH WHAT COUNCILWOMAN JUSTICE SAYS, I'M, I'M HAPPY TO HEAR THEY'RE INVESTING IN THAT AREA.

I'M HAPPY TO HEAR THAT THEY WANNA COME BACK TO RICHARDSON.

UM, I THINK THAT'S A, IT'S AS SOMEBODY WHO LIVES ABOUT SIX DOORS DOWN FROM THIS LOCATION, UH, THAT IS MY NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT IS MY STREET.

WE WILL BE NEIGHBORS AND, UH, I ASSURE YOU MY GOLDENDOODLE COULD PROBABLY USE YOUR SERVICES.

UM, 'CAUSE HE'S, HE'S, HE'S A LOT, UM, .

THE, THE, UH, MY, MY ONLY CONCERN AND NOT A CONCERN NOT TO ONE, I I THINK THIS IS A GREAT ADDITION NEIGHBORHOOD IS JUST, I THINK THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN TALKING TO SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS IS ANY CONCERN IF IT WERE TO BECOME MORE OF AN OUTDOOR OR IF THEY WERE TO BUILD SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE.

SO IF WE COULD, UM, I'M NOT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO ADD AMENDMENT, BUT I JUST WANNA, I FELT LIKE IT TO, UH, LOCK IT UP TO MAKE SURE THAT IT, IT IS PRIMARILY INDOORS, MOSTLY BECAUSE OF THE BARKING AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.

UH, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, I THINK NEIGHBORS WOULD BE, THERE ARE TWO DOORS DOWN FROM RESIDENTIAL, SO THEY'RE PRETTY, AND THOSE TWO BUILDINGS ARE PRETTY CLOSE TO EACH OTHER.

SO IF IT BECAME MORE OF AN OUTDOOR OR THEY WANTED TO BUILD A DOG RUNNING FEATURE, I COULD SEE THAT BEING A PROBLEM.

BASED ON WHAT THE APPLICANT IS SAYING NOW, I DON'T SEE IT BEING A PROBLEM.

I THINK, UH, AND BASED ON COUNCILMAN'S JUSTICE KNOWLEDGE OF THEIR, I HAVE NO DOUBT THEY'RE GONNA BE A WONDERFUL NEIGHBOR.

UH, BUT IF WE COULD LOCK THAT DOWN, UM, A LITTLE FURTHER.

YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S MY COMMENTS.

MR. MAGNER, WHAT MECHANISMS DO WE HAVE, IF ANY, UH, OR STAFF MAYOR TINA GANS, UH, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

SO RIGHT NOW, THE WAY THE CONCEPT PLAN IS, IT DOES NOT SHOW FOR ANY OUTDOOR OPERATIONS.

SO IF THE APPLICANT WERE WANTING TO ADD ANY OUTDOOR OPERATIONS OR MAKE ANY MODIFICATIONS TO THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE ON THE PROPERTY, IT WOULD REQUIRE AN AMENDMENT TO THE SPECIAL PERMIT.

IF THEY'RE TO CHANGE THE CONCEPT PLAN, UM, WE, WE COULD ADD LANGUAGE THAT LIMITS THE OPERATIONS, UM, OR OUTDOOR OPERATIONS POSSIBLY TO THE SOUTH SIDE AND WEST SIDE OF THE BUILDINGS, IF THAT WOULD BE AMENABLE TO COUNSEL.

AND IF SO, WE WOULD ASK YOU TO INCLUDE THAT IN YOUR MOTION.

WONDERFUL.

UH, DOES THAT SATISFY YOUR CONCERN, COUNCILMAN RAM BARRIOS? UM, DID YOU SAY TO LI LIMITED TO SOUTH AND WEST SIDE? YES.

'CAUSE FROM YOUR COMMENTS, I THOUGHT THE CONCERN WAS THAT THE RESIDENTIAL WAS MORE TOWARDS THE NORTH, THE RESIDENTIAL'S TO THE SOUTH.

OH, TO THE SOUTHWEST AND SOUTHWEST.

THE, THE, THE ONLY AREAS THAT THEY HAVE AVAILABLE PROBABLY TO DO ANY OPERATIONS WOULD BE ON THE SOUTH AND WEST SIDE.

IF COUNSEL IS INTERESTED IN NO OPERATIONS, UM, WE COULD ADD A CONDITION THAT MAKES REFERENCE TO NO ONSITE OUTDOOR OPERATIONS THAT WOULD STILL GIVE THEM SOME FLEXIBILITY TO BE ABLE TO GO MEET THE NEEDS ELSEWHERE.

UM, I KNOW THE APPLICANT EXPRESSED A NEED TO BE ABLE TO GO, UM, BE ABLE TO MEET CLIENTS IN OTHER PUBLIC LOCATIONS THEY HAD SHARED WITH US.

SO, UM, YOU MAY WANT TO GET AFFIRMATION FROM THE APPLICANT THOUGH.

AND I, I, I THINK, AND I DON'T THINK I'M ASKING FOR THAT.

'CAUSE OBVIOUSLY IF, YOU KNOW, AND I, AS SOMEBODY WHO'S OWNED DOGS WHO IS HESITANT TO GET IN CARS, I UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR THAT KIND OF TRAINING.

I THINK IT'S MORE OF A, YOU KNOW, IF DOGS WERE BEING STORED OUTSIDE OR BEING, YOU KNOW, IF THE RUN WERE TO BE BUILT AND THEY WERE GONNA BE LEFT OUTSIDE FOR AN HOUR AND THE BARKING, THAT CAN HAPPEN WITH SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

UM, BUT A QUICK, YOU KNOW, 15 MINUTE OUTSIDE FOR A LESSON, I DON'T HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS TO THAT.

SO I DON'T FEEL A NEED FOR THAT PART OF IT.

OKAY, PERFECT.

KINDA UNNECESSARY OR REDUNDANT.

UM, BUT BY, CAN WE ADD LANGUAGE REGARDING AN ACTUAL RUN OR ANY STORAGE OUTSIDE? I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TERM IS.

I HATE TO SAY WE STORE DOGS OUTSIDE, BUT SURE, SURE.

UH, UH, COUNCILMAN BARRS? I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING, AND I THINK I I CONCUR, IS THAT IT'S, IT'S NOT ALLOWED.

SO I DON'T, I THINK ADDING THE LANGUAGE WOULD BE OKAY.

ANY OUTDOOR TRAINING WOULD BE SECONDARY OR INCIDENTAL TO THE PRIMARY USE, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.

IF THERE WAS LANGUAGE, UH, THAT YOU WANTED ADD THAT SAID, YOU KNOW, ANY OUTDOOR TRAINING WOULD BE, UH, INCIDENTAL TO YEAH.

UH, THAT MAY BE MORE APPROPRIATE THEN THAN, UM, SAYING, YOU KNOW, PROHIBITING IT, PROHIBITING A, A, UM, A RUN OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

IF, IF, IF THEY'RE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK IN AND RE AND OBTAIN ADDITIONAL APPROVAL TO DO THAT.

SO IT, IT, IT WOULD JUST, IT JUST SEEMS, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD BE, UM, UNNECESSARY TO INCLUDE THAT FACET.

I, I WOULD, AGAIN, I WOULD UNDERSTAND IF YOU WANTED TO PUT SOME LANGUAGE TO THE EXTENT OF

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YEAH, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.

'CAUSE I FEEL THAT THAT'S A QUICK 15 MINUTE, YOU KNOW, 20 MINUTE VERSUS A DOG BEING OUTSIDE FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME WHERE BARKING MEANS TO.

THAT'S REALLY WHAT MY BIGGER CONCERN IS.

AND AS LONG AS THE NEIGHBORHOOD, I THINK HAS SOMETHING IN PLACE SO THAT THEY CAN GO BACK AND SAY, HEY, EVEN THOUGH STAFF MAY BE APPROVED TO RUN, 'CAUSE THAT WOULDN'T HAVE TO COME TO COUNCIL.

BUT THIS WAS SHARED, YOU KNOW, AT THIS TIME WHEN IT WAS DISCUSSED AS THE ZONING CASE.

I, I THINK AS LONG AS STAFF KIND OF UNDERSTANDS THE SPHERE IN WHICH I'M SAYING IT, AND I THINK THE SPHERE IN WHICH THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS AS FAR AS ANY POTENTIAL CONCERNS, UM, WHETHER THEY WERE TO DECIDE TO BUILD A RUN AND START STORING DOGS OUTSIDE.

UH, BUT THE WAY IT STANDS NOW, ASSUMING THEY DON'T BUILD A RUN, ASSUMING THERE'S NO DOG STORE OUTSIDE, I THINK IT'S A GREAT ADDITION TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I THINK THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD, IT'S A VERY EFFECTIVE SLIDE BY THE WAY.

YEAH, YEAH, EXACTLY.

UM, I SAW OTHER LIGHTS ON SOME OF THESE MIGHT BE A DESIRE TO HAVE A MOTION, BUT, UH, IF, IF NOT, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL START CALLING ON YOU JUST IN CASE IT'S NOT A MOTION COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE.

IS THERE ANOTHER DISCUSSION OR THERE IS THERE, THERE'S AT LEAST ONE OTHER.

OH, OH, OH, OKAY.

YEAH, I WOULD, I WOULD, DID HE HAVE A QUESTION? MY ONLY POINT WAS IS I, I DON'T SUPPORT, UM, COUNCILMAN BAR'S CONCERNS.

I DON'T THINK, I DON'T SEE A CONCERN HERE AT ALL, SO I WOULD NOT UNDERSTAND SUPPORT ADDING LANGUAGE.

THAT'S THE ONLY THING I WAS GONNA GONNA STATE.

SO, AND I JUST HAVE ONE CLARIFYING COUNT, UH, QUESTION OF COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE.

UH, IS, IS ARCHIE NOW A GOOD BOY? ? HE'S, HE'S A GREAT DOG.

OKAY, GOOD.

ALRIGHT, WELL THEN, UH, IN THAT CASE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE.

UM, I MOVE TO APPROVE ZONING FILE 25 16 AND, UH, THE ACCOMPANYING, UH, ADOPT THE ACCOMPANYING ORDINANCE AS, UH, WRITTEN.

UM, AND VERY HAPPILY DO SO.

ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, WHICH IS TO REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT AND STRATEGY.

UH, MAYOR PER TIM HUTCHIN RIDER, I WOULD SECOND THAT MOTION.

ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE.

UH, WE HAVE A SECOND BY MAYOR PER TIM HUTCHIN RIDER.

ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALRIGHT, ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

CONGRATULATIONS.

ALRIGHT, SO AS I HAD MENTIONED EARLIER, UH, WE SKIPPED, UH, ITEM NUMBER SEVEN TO GET TO THAT PARTICULAR, UH, ITEM.

AND NOW WE'RE GOING BACK TO

[7. REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT AND STRATEGY]

MR. MAGNA, UH, THANK YOU MAYOR.

UM, APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY, UH, TO, UM, UH, STAFF THIS ITEM TONIGHT.

I WANNA WELCOME MAUREEN MILLIGAN.

SHE'S THE DIRECTOR OF, UM, TRAINING AND TECHNICAL CREDIT ADVISORY SERVICES AT GROW AMERICA.

UM, MAUREEN ACTUALLY, UH, HAS A HISTORY WITH THE CITY, UH, GROW AMERICA, UH, DURING THE PANDEMIC, WAS A KEY PARTNER TO US, AND, UH, DID A TREMENDOUS JOB OF HELPING US, UH, HELP OUR SMALL BUSINESSES HERE IN THE COMMUNITY AS WE, UH, UH, DEALT WITH THOSE EARLY DAYS OF, OF THE COVID-19 EPIDEMIC.

UM, WANT TO, UH, JUST PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT FOR YOU AS MAUREEN, UH, KIND OF MAKES OUR WAY UP TO THE PODIUM TO KIND OF GET KICKED OFF HERE TONIGHT.

UM, THIS IS THE FIRST OF TWO BRIEFINGS.

UH, YOU MAY RECALL, AS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, UH, UM, THIS FALL, A FEW, A FEW MEETINGS AGO, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW WE MIGHT APPROACH THIS BRIEFING.

AND, UH, AFTER A LOT OF CONSULTATION WITH MAUREEN AND OTHER KEY MEMBERS OF THE CONSULTING TEAM, WE DECIDED TO BREAK IT INTO TWO, UH, BRIEFINGS.

UH, TONIGHT WHAT YOU'RE GONNA HEAR IS MORE OF A MACRO, UH, REPORT.

UM, IT'S GONNA BE USING DATA THAT IS, UM, UH, PRETTY, UH, EASILY ACCESSIBLE, UM, FROM A VARIETY OF FEDERAL SOURCES.

AND WHAT MAUREEN HAS DONE IS, UH, PULLED THAT DATA TOGETHER TO PAINT A KIND OF A HIGH LEVEL PICTURE, UM, CREATE THREE, UH, HOUSING, UH, NEEDS, IF YOU WILL.

AND THEN, UM, WHAT WE REALLY ARE LOOKING FOR, FOR FROM YOU TONIGHT IS FEEDBACK ON THE, UH, UH, I GUESS OPTIONS, UH, THE STRATEGY OPTIONS FOR DEALING WITH THOSE HOUSING NEEDS.

UM, PART TWO OF THIS BRIEFING WILL BE TAKING YOUR FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVED TONIGHT ON THOSE HOUSING, UH, STRATEGIES, AND THEN, UH, TAKING THE, UH, MARKET VALUE ANALYSIS AND THE, THE MORE MICRO DATA THAT'S UNIQUE HERE TO RICHARDSON AND TALKING ABOUT HOW, UH, THREE THINGS WORTH YOU REALLY, UH, WHERE THOSE STRATEGIES WOULD BE MOST EFFECTIVELY, UH, EMPLOYED HERE IN THE CITY.

UH, HOW WE COULD GO ABOUT IMPLEMENTING THOSE STRATEGIES, AND IMPORTANTLY, WHAT THE COST OF THOSE STRATEGIES WOULD LIKELY BE.

AND SO, UM, I I, I REALLY WANNA THANK MAUREEN, UM, AS, AS, UH, WE'RE ALL NEW TO THIS.

UM, SHE CAME UP WITH THIS VERY EFFECTIVE APPROACH, UM, I THINK TO, UH, PRESENTING THIS INFORMATION, UM, DONE IN REVERSE.

WE COULD SPEND HOURS ON HOURS AND HOURS OF LOOKING AT DATA THAT MAY NOT BE APPLICABLE TO ANY STRATEGY THAT YOU WANT TO CONSIDER.

AND I THINK THAT'S THE BALANCE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO STRIKE HERE, IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE USE, WE HAVE A, A EFFECTIVE CONVERSATION AROUND THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE MOST INTERESTED IN LEARNING MORE ABOUT.

AND SO, UH, MAUREEN, I REALLY WANT TO THANK YOU, UH, AND, AND DANETTE, LINDSAY AND AND RILEY HAVE ALL DONE A GREAT JOB OF, OF STAFFING THIS AND BRINGING THIS TO OUR ATTENTION TONIGHT.

AND SO COUNSEL, UH, AS MAUREEN GOES THROUGH THIS, WE LOOK FORWARD, UH, TO, TO YOUR QUESTIONS.

AND AT THE END, UH, LOOK FORWARD TO RE OBTAINING THAT IMPORTANT INFORMATION AROUND THE STRATEGIES SO WE CAN COME BACK TO YOU AND, UH, SPEAK PRETTY ARTICULATELY ABOUT HOW WE WOULD GO

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ABOUT, UM, ABOUT ADDRESSING THOSE IN, IN, IN A, IN A BIGGER PLAN.

SO MAUREEN, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU BEFORE WE LEAVE BRIEFING TONIGHT.

GREAT, THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING.

AND, UH, MY OTHER CONNECTION TO RICHARDSON IS THE BEST DAYCARE IN THE WORLD IS LOCATED HERE, WHICH IS MY IN-LAWS.

UM, SO MY KID'S A LITTLE BIT OLDER NOW, BUT DEFINITELY SPENT A LOT OF TIME DRIVING, UM, JUST REALLY ACROSS THE STREET TO VISIT MY IN-LAWS.

SO, UH, AS THE CITY MANAGER MENTIONED, MY NAME'S MAUREEN MILLIGAN, I'M WITH GROW AMERICA, AND THIS IS THE FIRST IN TWO BRIEFINGS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO RECEIVE ON THE HOUSING STRATEGY.

AS YOU SAW, UH, WE HAVE A LOT OF SLIDES TO TACKLE TONIGHT.

UM, THERE'S A LOT OF DATA AND, UM, REVIEW OF INFORMATION THAT WE'VE DONE SO FAR, BUT WE DIDN'T WANNA COMPLETELY OVERWHELM YOU.

SO WE'RE BREAKING THIS INTO TWO BRIEFINGS.

UM, TONIGHT'S BRIEFING IS REALLY MORE MACRO LEVEL CITYWIDE DATA THAT WE LOOKED AT TO REALLY START TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR HOUSING NEEDS ARE.

UM, AND THEN IN THE SECOND BRIEFING, UM, THAT WILL HAPPEN, UM, IN NOVEMBER OR DECEMBER.

UM, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT THE HOUSING STRATEGIES BASED ON SOME OF THE INPUT YOU GIVE US TONIGHT.

AND THEN WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT THE MARKET VALUE ANALYSIS, WHICH A PARTNER ORGANIZATION THE REINVESTMENT FUND HELPED US WITH.

AND THAT'S GONNA HELP US UNDERSTAND YOUR LOCAL REAL ESTATE MARKET AT A REALLY MICRO LEVEL, UM, AND THEN USE THAT INFORMATION TO HELP, UM, DEVELOP POTENTIAL GEOGRAPHIC TARGETING OF SOME OF THESE STRATEGIES.

SO BEFORE I HOP INTO MY PRESENTATION, I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU TWO SLIDES ON WHO WE ARE AS GROW AMERICA, WHY YOU SHOULD, UM, TRUST US TO BE GIVING YOU RECOMMENDATIONS RELATED TO YOUR HOUSING STRATEGY.

SO, GROW AMERICA HAS BEEN, UH, A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION IN EXISTENCE FOR 50 PLUS YEARS.

UM, WE'RE WELL KNOWN FOR OUR TRAINING PROGRAMS, OUR CERTIFICATION AS A HOUSING FINANCE DEVELOPMENT PROFESSIONAL, AND AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FINANCE PROFESSIONAL.

WE'VE TRAINED OVER 85,000 PEOPLE OVER THE PAST 50 YEARS, UM, TO BE AN EDFP OR AN HDFP OR SOME OF OUR OTHER TRADING OPPORTUNITIES.

UM, WE'VE WORKED IN OVER A HUNDRED COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE, THE UNITED STATES AND ALL 50 STATES, AS WELL AS IN THE US VIRGIN ISLANDS AND PUERTO RICO.

I DID NOT GET STAFFED ON EITHER OF THOSE, BUT MAYBE SOMEDAY.

UM, WE'VE ALSO PROVIDED OVER 3 BILLION TO SMALL BUSINESSES IN THE FORM OF GRANTS OR LOANS.

UM, AND WE'VE HELPED FINANCE OVER 12,000 AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS.

WE ARE AN EQUITY INVESTOR, UM, IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS, INCLUDING IN NORTH TEXAS, AND WE'VE EVEN HELPED LOCAL, LOCAL GOVERNMENTS BUILD, UH, PUBLIC FACILITIES SUCH AS, UM, BIOMEDICAL FACILITIES AND PARKING GARAGES.

UM, OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS, WE'VE BEEN VERY ACTIVE IN NORTH TEXAS.

AS THE CITY MANAGER MENTIONED, WE WORKED WITH YOU ON YOUR, UH, IN THE EARLY, REALLY EARLY DAYS OF COVID TO RUN YOUR SMALL BUSINESS, UM, GRANT PROGRAM.

UM, AND THEN WE'VE WORKED ON A NUMBER OF PLANS FOR DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES, INCLUDING HUD CONSOLIDATED PLANS, WHICH ARE REQUIRED IF YOU ACCEPT COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDING, UM, AS WELL AS HOUSING STRATEGIES FOR THE CITY OF IRVING AND CITY OF LEWISVILLE, AND CONTINUE TO WORK WITH SOME OF THESE CITIES IN IN SPECIAL PROJECTS.

UM, WE ALSO MOST RECENTLY JUST CLOSED A PROGRAM WITH THE GREATER DALLAS HISPANIC CHAMBER OF COMMERCE TO HELP PROVIDE TRAINING IN TA TO, UM, BOTH EMERGING ENTREPRENEURS AS WELL AS MID-SIZE BUSINESSES, UM, USING AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT FUNDING.

AND THEN OUR CORPORATE EQUITY FUND HAS INVESTED IN THREE LOCAL PROJECTS IN THE PAST FIVE YEARS, UM, WITH GARDNER CAPITAL, UM, TO PRODUCE, UH, SEVERAL HUNDRED SENIOR LIVING AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS.

ALRIGHT, SO OUR AGENDA TODAY IS PRETTY AGGRESSIVE.

UM, WE'RE GONNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF, OF MAKING STRATEGIC HOUSING INVESTMENTS.

AND THIS IS GONNA BE A BIT OF A RECAP FROM A PRESENTATION THAT HAPPENED SEVERAL MONTHS AGO THAT ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER DANETTE GARCIA GAVE YOU.

UM, THEN WE'RE GOING TO DO A, A DEEP DIVE INTO THE DATA, UM, THAT'S SUPPORTING YOUR PRIORITY HOUSING NEEDS AND YOUR HOUSING STRATEGY.

AND THEN I'LL DISCUSS, UM, UH, FOR CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF TIME, THOSE THREE HOUSING PRIORITIES AS WELL AS YOUR PROPOSED HOUSING STRATEGIES.

AND THEN CLOSE OF THE PRESENTATION, I'LL CONNECT THIS BRIEFING AGAIN TO THE NEXT BRIEFING, AND THEN I'LL ASK YOU A QUESTION, WHICH OF THE PROPOSED STRATEGIES SHOULD BE PRIORITIZED SO THAT WE CAN START DIGGING MORE DEEPLY INTO THOSE PROPOSED STRATEGIES? UM, BECAUSE AS THE CITY MANAGER MENTIONED, YOU HAVEN'T, UM, SPECIFICALLY FOCUSED ON HOUSING IN THE PAST, AND SO YOU'RE ABOUT TO EMBARK ON A NEW, UM, A NEW JOURNEY.

AND SO WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR PRIORITIES ARE.

SO YOU MAY REMEMBER THIS SLIDE FROM, UH, DANETTE'S PRESENTATION SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, BUT IT'S REALLY LOOKING AT WHAT IF WE DO NOTHING? WHAT IF WE ARE NOT FOCUSED ON HOUSING? WHAT CAN BE THE IMPACTS OF NOT HAVING SUFFICIENT HOUSING? AND WHEN I SAY SUFFICIENT HOUSING, I DON'T MEAN THAT THE NUMBER OF HOUSING UNITS

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EXACTLY MATCHES THE NUMBER OF HOUSEHOLDS, BUT REALLY IS THE HOUSING THAT YOU'RE PROVIDING, THE HOUSING THAT HOUSEHOLDS WANT IN TERMS OF STYLE AND DESIGN, NUMBER OF BEDROOMS, AND OF COURSE PRICE.

SO TWO THINGS CAN HAPPEN IF YOUR HOUSING IS NOT SUFFICIENT FOR THE FAMILIES THAT ARE IN YOUR CITY OR THAT WOULD LIKE TO MOVE INTO YOUR CITY.

ONE IS THAT FAMILIES JUST CHOOSE OTHER CITIES.

AND SO THAT CAN LEAD TO POPULATION LOSS THAT IMPACTS YOUR, BOTH YOUR SALES TAX AND YOUR PROPERTY TAX BASE.

AND IF, UH, IF THE FAMILIES THAT ARE CHOOSING NOT TO LIVE IN RICHARDSON, UM, ARE REALLY VALUED AS EMPLOYEES BY YOUR LOCAL EMPLOYERS, IT CAN IMPACT WHETHER YOUR LOCAL EMPLOYERS WANT TO REMAIN IN RICHARDSON.

THE OTHER THING WHICH IS POTENTIALLY MORE LIKELY THAT COULD HAPPEN IN RICHARDSON IS THAT FAMILIES REALLY WANNA BE HERE AND THEY'RE WILLING TO MAKE SOME HARD DECISIONS TO BE ABLE TO LIVE IN THE CITY.

AND SO WHEN THOSE FAMILIES CHOOSE TO RESIDE IN HOMES WHERE THEY'RE OVERCROWDED OR THEY'RE PAYING MORE THAN THEY REALLY CAN AFFORD TO IN HOUSING, UM, THAT CAN ALSO LEAD TO INCREASED STRAIN ON CITY SERVICES.

IF YOU HAVE OVERCROWDED HOUSEHOLDS, UM, HEALTH OUTCOMES, IF FAMILIES ARE WILLING TO LIVE IN A UNIT THAT REALLY IS NOT HEALTHY FOR THEM, HAS MOLD, HAS OTHER ISSUES, UM, AND THEN IF YOU START TO SEE FAMILIES WHO ARE IN THEIR HOUSING THAT CAN'T AFFORD TO MAINTAIN IT, THAT CAN LEAD TO DECREASED PROPERTY TAX VALUES.

SO GO.

THE GOAL WITH THIS HOUSING STRATEGY IS WE ARE AT THE END OF THE DAY IN RICHARDSON PROVIDING HOUSING THAT'S SUFFICIENT TO MEET THE NEEDS OF RESIDENTS.

SO THESE SLIDES WERE, UH, SLIDES YOU ALSO WERE INTRODUCED TO SEVERAL MONTHS AGO.

UM, AND I'M NOT GONNA READ ALL THE, THE, UH, DEFINITIONS, BUT I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AFFORDABILITY, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOUSEHOLDS NOT PAYING MORE THAN 30% OF THEIR INCOME ON HOUSING.

ANY HOUSING, ANY HOUSEHOLD OF ANY INCOME CAN BECOME HOUSING COST BURDENED IF THEY'RE PAYING MORE THAN 30% OF THEIR, THEIR, UM, INCOME ON HOUSING.

BUT IT IMPACTS LOWER AND MODERATE INCOME FAMILIES, UM, TO A MORE NEGATIVE DEGREE BECAUSE THEY JUST HAVE LESS INCOME TO PAY ALL OF THEIR OTHER EXPENSES.

I ALSO WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT NOAA, WHICH IS NATURALLY OCCURRING AFFORDABLE HOUSING BECAUSE THIS RELATES TO, UM, SOME OF YOUR HOUSING STRATEGIES, BUT NOAA HOUSING, IT DOES NOT HAVE ANY KIND OF A REQUIREMENT THAT IT REMAIN AFFORDABLE, BUT IT'S AFFORDABLE BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S OLDER, IT HAS LESS AMENITIES, IT'S MAYBE IN AN AREA THAT'S NOT AS DESIRABLE.

AND SO YOUR NATURALLY OCCURRING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UM, CAN EASILY BECOME MARKET RATE HOUSING IF SOMEONE INVESTS IN IT, UM, AND REALLY UPGRADES THE UNITS.

AND YOU COULD THINK OF AREAS, FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE WEST SPRING VALLEY HAS SOME OF YOUR, UH, IN THE BOWSER AREA HAS SOME OF YOUR NOAA HOUSING.

SO LET'S GO OVER A LITTLE BIT, WHAT WERE THE COMPONENTS OF THIS PROJECT? SO IT'S REALLY THE HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT AND THEN YOUR HOUSING STRATEGY.

SO THE FIRST THING THAT I DID WAS LOOKING AT WHAT ARE YOUR EXISTING PLANS IN YOUR INVESTMENTS, BECAUSE IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT HAVE YOU ALREADY PRIORITIZED, UM, WITHIN THE CITY THAT RELATES TO HOUSING OR RELATES TO NEIGHBORHOODS.

UM, WE REVIEWED A LOT OF LOCAL CENSUS DATA AS WELL AS DATA THAT CAME FROM CITY STAFF AND, AND, UH, INTERVIEWS WITH STAKEHOLDERS.

UM, AND THEN THE MARKET VALUE ANALYSIS, WHICH WE'LL REALLY DIVE INTO IN THE NEXT PRESENTATION, HELPS YOU UNDERSTAND YOUR LOCAL REAL ESTATE MARKET AND HOW NEIGHBOR NEIGHBORHOODS ARE IMPACTED BY INVESTMENTS AND DISINVESTMENT.

THE HOUSING STRATEGY IS GOING TO, UH, LET YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR HOUSING PRIORITIES ARE, UM, AND THEN RECOMMENDS POLICIES, PROGRAMS, AND TOOLS TO ADDRESS THOSE HOUSING NEEDS.

AND THEN GIVES YOU A FRAMEWORK FOR GOALS, RESOURCE INVESTMENT AND PERFORMANCE METRICS.

SO YOU CAN UNDERSTAND AS TIME GOES ON, WERE THESE INVESTMENTS SUCCESSFUL IN ACHIEVING, UM, THE GOALS THAT YOU SET FOR YOURSELF AND ADDRESSING YOUR HOUSING PRIORITIES.

SO I HAD, UH, A WONDERFUL, UH, SLIDE THAT HAD ALL KINDS OF MOVING PARTS, BUT WE'RE ON A PDF TONIGHT.

SO, UM, FORGIVE ME, ME FOR IT NOT BEING AS, AS PRETTY OR, AND NOT HAVING ANY CUTE DOGS IN IT, BUT HERE WE'RE GONNA GO.

UM, SO THIS IS A LIST OF, UH, FROM LOOKING AT YOUR DATA, SOME OF THE HOUSING NEEDS THAT EXIST IN THE CITY OF RICHARDSON, THEY, THEY EXIST, UM, SOME TO A MUCH GREATER DEGREE THAN OTHERS, BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE, UH, THERE'S A RANGE OF NEEDS THAT OCCUR, UM, BOTH IN TERMS OF AFFORDABILITY, BUT ALSO IN TERMS OF THE TYPE OF HOUSING THAT IS PROVIDED HOUSING THAT, UM, IS SAFE FOR SOMEONE TO AGE IN PLACE IN, FOR EXAMPLE.

SO WE'RE GONNA PARK THESE HOUSING NEEDS JUST FOR A SECOND, AND WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT, WELL, HOW DO WE BUILD A HOUSING STRATEGY AFTER WE'VE, I IDENTIFIED THOSE HOUSING NEEDS.

AND SO THE FIRST TWO THINGS THAT FORM THE BASE OF YOUR HOUSING STRATEGY

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ARE YOUR EXISTING CITY PLANS AS WELL AS YOUR CURRENT CITY ACTIVITIES, BECAUSE THE PLANS THAT YOU'VE ALREADY APPROVED, LIKE YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REALLY HELP US UNDERSTAND WHAT DO YOU, WHAT'S YOUR VISION FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE CITY? WHAT, WHAT ARE YOUR PRIORITIES FOR THE TYPES OF NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WILL EXIST IN THE FUTURE IN THE CITY OF RICHARDSON? AND THEN ALSO YOUR CURRENT CITY ACTIVITIES SUCH AS YOUR CODE ENFORCEMENT, YOUR HIP PROGRAM, UM, SOME OF YOUR VOLUNTEER REPAIR PROGRAMS. ALL OF THOSE ALREADY IMPACT WHAT'S THE QUALITY OF THE HOUSING STOCK THAT ALREADY EXISTS IN THE CITY OF RICHARDSON.

SO UNDERSTANDING THOSE THINGS HELPS US UNDERSTAND WHAT'S THE BASE THAT WE BUILD UPON FOR THIS HOUSING STRATEGY.

AND THEN WE LOOK AT HOW DO WE FRAME UP THE HOUSING STRATEGY AND WE LOOK AT BOTH CONSTRAINTS AND OPPORTUNITIES.

SO ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF FEDERAL PROGRAMS THAT, UM, PROVIDE INCENTIVES FOR CAPITAL TO BE INVESTED IN HOUSING.

SO YOU HAVE YOUR LOW INCOME HOUSING TAX PROGRAM THAT REALLY FOCUSES ON AFFORDABILITY, AND YOU HAVE YOUR OPPORTUNITY ZONES PROGRAM THAT WAS RECENTLY MADE, UM, PERMANENT WITHIN THE ONE BIG BEAUTIFUL BILL ACT.

SO BOTH OF THOSE CAN DRIVE PRIVATE INVESTMENT INTO HOUSING, BUT THEY HAVE REGULATIONS THAT COME WITH THEM.

SO DEPENDING ON, UM, THE REGULATIONS AND DEPENDING ON WHAT, UH, WHAT EXISTS IN YOUR COMMUNITY, THOSE CAN BE BOTH AN OPPORTUNITY AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL AS WELL AS ADD SOME CONSTRAINTS TO WHAT YOU CAN DO.

THE SAME THING WITH STATE LAWS AND POLICIES.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, NOT EVERY STATE HAS TAX INCREMENT FINANCING IN TEXAS, WE DO.

SO THAT IS AN OPPORTUNITY THAT YOU CAN USE TO, UM, INCENTIVIZE THE DEVELOPMENT OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOUSING.

UM, SAME THING WITH, UH, THERE'S A TOOL CALLED COMMUNITY LAND TRUST.

MANY STATES HAVE IT, BUT NOT EVERY STATE REGULATES OR ALLOWS COMMUNITY LAND TRUSTS TO OPERATE IN THE SAME WAY.

SO A HOUSING STRATEGY THAT'S BUILT IN TEXAS WOULD LOOK VERY DIFFERENT THAN A HOUSING STRATEGY IN, FOR EXAMPLE, ARIZONA THAT DOESN'T REALLY USE TIFF FUNDING, UM, IS ONE OF THEIR INCENTIVES.

SO AGAIN, OPPORTUNITIES BASED ON STATE LAW, BUT ALSO CONSTRAINTS.

AND THEN AT THE END OF THE DAY, REALLY WHAT PUTS A CAP ON WHAT YOU CAN DO IS YOUR LOCAL RESOURCES.

SO WE UNDERSTAND, ESPECIALLY RIGHT NOW THAT MUNICIPALITIES ARE, UM, REALLY CONSTRAINED IN TERMS OF PROPERTY TAX GROWTH AND REVENUE GROWTH.

AND SO BEING COGNIZANT OF THAT SO THAT WE DON'T PROPOSE A STRATEGY THAT, UM, YOU WOULDN'T EVER BE ABLE TO SUCCESSFULLY IMPLEMENT BECAUSE IT JUST, YOU DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO BE ABLE TO DEVOTE TO IT.

SO THE MAIN QUESTIONS THAT WE SEEK TO ADDRESS AS PART OF THE HOUSING STRATEGY ARE WHAT ARE YOUR CURRENT AND PROJECTED HOUSING NEEDS? WHY DO THESE NEEDS EXIST BASED ON THE NEEDS? WHAT ARE THE GOALS THAT YOU SHOULD ADOPT? WHAT STRATEGIES AND INVESTMENTS CAN HELP YOU REACH THOSE GOALS? WHAT SOURCES OF FUNDING AND OTHER RESOURCES ARE AVAILABLE TO PAY FOR ALL OF THOSE ACTIVITIES? AND ARE THERE AREAS IN THE CITY WHERE INVESTMENTS SHOULD BE FOCUSED? SO LET'S DIVE INTO SOME DATA.

SO AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT WE DID WAS LET'S LOOK AT YOUR ALREADY YOUR EXISTING PLANS AND SOME OF THE ACTIVITIES AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM YOUR EXISTING PLANS.

SO YOU HAVE YOUR ENVISION RICHARD RICHARDSON, WHICH AGAIN REALLY LOOKS AT WHAT'S, UH, YOUR GOALS FOR THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF THE CITY.

YOU HAVE A RECENTLY ADOPTED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN THAT DOES, DID LOOK AT, UM, SOME OF THE ABILITY FOR REDEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE CITY FROM BOTH A, UM, MIXED USE, UM, WITH COMMERCIAL AND HOUSING AS WELL AS JUST HOUSING.

AND YOU HAVE YOUR ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN, WHICH IS REALLY LOOKING AT WHAT ARE ALL THE MODES OF TRANSPORTATION THAT PEOPLE CAN USE TO GET TO AND FROM WORK AND OTHER AMENITIES, UM, INCLUDING CARS, BUT ALSO BIKES AND WALKING.

AND SO THIS HOUSING STRATEGY IS BUILT UPON ALL OF THESE PLANS AND, UM, IS REALLY TAKING THOSE INTO ACCOUNT.

UM, SO THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, ENVISION RICHARDSON, I THOUGHT THIS WAS A VERY IMPORTANT VISION STATEMENT, THAT YOU WANT TO BE AN INCREASINGLY DYNAMIC, DIVERSE AND INCLUSIVE COMMUNITY WITH STRONG NEIGHBORHOODS AND ATTRACTIVE AMENITIES WHERE PEOPLE ARE CONNECTED AND ENGAGED.

DECISION MAKING IS GUIDED BY COLLABORATIVE INPUT AND INNOVATION AND FISCAL, SOCIAL AND NATURAL RESOURCES ARE MANAGED SUSTAINABLY.

IT IS A SAFE AND LIVABLE PLACE WITH OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE AND BUSINESSES TO GROW.

SO THE FIRST THING WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT IS JUST GENERAL DEMOGRAPHIC AND HOUSING TRENDS.

AND THE, THE FIRST THING I WANTED TO FOCUS ON WAS HOUSEHOLDS AND HOUSING UNITS, BECAUSE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOUSING, IT'S NOT JUST POPULATION, IT'S HOW PEOPLE LIVE TOGETHER.

SO A HOUSEHOLD IS ONE OR MORE PEOPLE THAT LIVE TOGETHER AS A HOUSING UNIT, AND HOUSEHOLDS OCCUPY HOUSING UNITS, WHETHER IT'S AN APARTMENT UNIT, WHETHER IT'S A ONE SIDE OF A DUPLEX OR A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.

SO THE IMPORTANT THING TO LOOK AT IS HOW ARE WE GROWING AND CHANGING AS A CITY FROM A STANDPOINT OF HOUSEHOLDS AS WELL, AS WELL AS HOUSING UNITS.

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SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THE NUMBER OF HOUSEHOLDS HAS GROWN AT A, UM, A GREATER RATE THAN THE NUMBER OF, OF HOUSING UNITS OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS.

AND, AND MOST OF THE DATA WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT IN THESE SLIDES ARE GONNA BE FIVE YEAR TREND DATA.

UM, SO YOUR NUMBER OF HOUSEHOLDS HAS GROWN BY 6.4%, AND YOUR NUMBER OF HOUSING UNITS HAS GROWN BY ABOUT FIVE POINT 0.6%.

SO HOW COULD THAT BE? SO ONE OF THE THINGS IS THAT, UM, YOU ARE HAVING HOUSEHOLDS THAT ARE MOVING INTO UNITS THAT USED TO BE VACANT.

AND SO THAT'S WHY YOU'RE SEEING IF YOU LOOK DOWN THAT YOUR, YOUR VACANCY RATE HAS CHANGED FROM 5.7% TO 5%.

SO RICHARDSON IS A PLACE THAT PEOPLE WANT TO MOVE INTO, AND IT'S BECOME EVEN INCREASINGLY SO, EVEN THOUGH YOU'VE HAD A LOT OF PRODUCTION, ESPECIALLY AT THE MULTIFAMILY LEVEL, THOSE UNITS ARE GETTING LEASED AND PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE IN THE CITY OF RICHARDSON.

UM, SO THE TAKEAWAY FROM THIS SLIDE IS WE SAY HERE IS THAT HOUSING SUPPLY IS NOT GROWING AS, AS FAST AS HOUSING DEMAND AND HOUSEHOLD SIZE IS SHRINKING.

SO YOU CAN SEE THAT IN 2018, THE AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD SIZE WAS 2.64 PERSONS, AND NOW IT'S DROPPED TO ABOUT 2.51 PERSONS.

AND THAT'S PRIMARILY DRIVEN BY YOUR RENTER HOUSEHOLDS THAT ARE TRENDING TO BE SMALLER HOUSEHOLDS.

UM, THESE SUPPLY AND DEMI DEMAND DYNAMICS ARE NOT ANYTHING TO RAISE AN ALARM BELL RIGHT NOW, BUT IT'S JUST TO BE AWARE OF.

UM, IN GENERAL, ESPECIALLY ON THE RENTAL SIDE, HEALTHY VACANCY RATES ARE ABOUT FIVE TO 7%.

IF YOU GET BELOW THAT, THEN YOU SEE RENTS REALLY STARTING TO, UM, TO INCREASE.

IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT WHO WERE YOUR WORKERS AND WHERE DO THEY LIVE.

SO I KNOW THESE MAPS ARE A LITTLE BIT SMALL, BUT, UM, PER THE CENSUS DATA, THERE'S ABOUT 104,000 JOBS IN RICHARDSON, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UM, TEAM GAVE ME SOME UPDATED DATA JUST TODAY THAT IT'S CLOSER TO, UM, A HUNDRED AND TWENTY SIX, A HUNDRED TWENTY 5,000, UM, JOBS THAT ARE IN THE CITY OF RICHARDSON.

SO IT'S VERY, VERY EVIDENT YOU'RE AN EMPLOYMENT CENTER.

PEOPLE ARE COMING INTO RICHARDSON EVERY DAY.

UM, AND SO WHAT WE WANTED TO LOOK AT IS WHO IS COMING INTO, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE COMING INTO RICHARDSON THAT DON'T LEAVE HERE, HOW MANY PEOPLE ACTUALLY WORK AND LIVE IN RICHARDSON AND HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE LIVING OUTSIDE OF RICHARDSON.

UM, SO YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT YOU'VE GOT ABOUT 6,000 PEOPLE THAT LIVE AND WORK IN RICHARDSON.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD DEFINITELY, UM, SEEK TO INCREASE SO THAT YOU COULD CUT DOWN IN THE COMMUTE TIMES FOR FAMILIES AND ADDRESS HOUSING AFFORDABILITY BY THAT IMPACT.

UM, BECAUSE THE LESS A FAMILY HAS TO PAY ON TRANSPORTATION, THE MORE THEIR BUDGET CAN GO TO THEIR HOUSING NEEDS.

AND THEN THE WORK FROM HOME STATISTIC IS FROM 2022.

SO IT'S LIKELY DROPPED A LITTLE BIT, RIGHT? IT WAS AT THE HEIGHT OF THE WORK FROM HOME.

UM, BUT YOU DO HAVE A, A WORKFORCE THAT IS HIGHLY SKILLED AND HAS THE OPPORTUNITY MORE OF AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK FROM HOME.

SO FROM A HOUSING AND A NEIGHBORHOOD STANDPOINT, THAT'S IMPORTANT TO THINK ABOUT BECAUSE, UM, ESPECIALLY YOUR FAMILIES THAT LIVE IN YOUR OLDER RANCH STYLE HOMES THAT DON'T MAYBE HAVE A HOME OFFICE, HOW WOULD THEY LIKE TO HAVE THEIR HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES CHANGE SO THEY COULD LIVE CLOSER TO COWORKING SPACE OR THEY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A HOME OFFICE? SO THOSE ARE THINGS TO THINK ABOUT WHEN YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT DEMAND AND WHAT FAMILIES MAY WANT TO LIVE IN.

UM, SO THE PURPLE, THE DARKER, THE PURPLE, THE MORE THE CONCENTRATION.

SO THIS IS WHERE PEOPLE WHO WORK IN RICHARDSON LIVE, AND YOU CAN SEE IT'S ALL OVER THE METROPLEX, BUT THERE ARE DARKER PURPLE, UM, IN AREAS LIKE PLANO AND FRISCO, CERTAINLY GARLAND, AND IN LIKE THE LAKE HIGHLANDS AREA OF, OF DALLAS ARE WHERE WORKERS ARE LIVING AND THEN COMMUTING INTO THE CITY OF RICHARDSON.

AND THEN THIS IS WHERE RICHARDSON RESIDENTS WORK.

AND SO YOU CAN SEE THIS, THERE'S, UH, A, A BIG POPULATION OF WORKERS THAT WORK IN DOWNTOWN DALLAS AS WOULD BE EXPECTED.

AND THEN YOU'VE GOT FOLKS IN PLANO, UM, FRISCO AND ADDISON.

BUT THIS DOES PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY.

YOU'VE STARTED TO INVEST IN TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT KNOWING THAT A LOT OF YOUR WORKERS WORK IN DOWNTOWN DALLAS, AND YOU HAVE THOSE ABILITY FOR THEM TO TAKE ALTERNATIVE FORMS OF TRANSPORTATION INTO TO DOWNTOWN DALLAS.

TRANSIT ORIENT DEVELOPMENT IS, IS SOMETHING TO CONTINUE TO FOCUS ON.

SO OVER THESE NEXT SLIDES, WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT DIFFERENT TYPES OF RESIDENTS.

UM, OH, EXCUSE ME.

WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT THE HOUSING INVENTORY FIRST.

SO THIS IS IMPORTANT DATA TO LOOK AT BECAUSE WHAT'S, IT'S WHAT'S ON THE GROUND.

AND SO YOU CAN SEE THAT, UM, THE SHARE OF YOUR HOUSING INVENTORY THAT'S SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IS SHRINKING WHILE THE SHARE OF HOUSING UNITS THAT ARE LOCATED IN IN LARGER APARTMENT COMMUNITIES IS GROWING.

SO ONE

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UNIT DETACHED IS LIKE YOUR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT'S GONE DOWN TO ABOUT 54% OF YOUR HOUSING STOCK AS YOU'VE BEEN INVESTING IN, IN, UM, ALLOWING FOR MORE MULTIFAMILY UNITS TO BE BUILT IN THE CITY.

ALSO, YOUR SHARE OF THREE BEDROOM UNITS HAS BEEN DROPPING.

AND THIS IS IMPORTANT AS WE'RE THINKING ABOUT FAMILIES AND THE ABILITY FOR FAMILIES TO LIVE IN THE CITY OF RICHARDSON.

UM, AND THIS IS PRIMARILY DRIVEN BY APARTMENT UNITS, UM, ARE JUST NOT BEING BUILT WITH THREE BEDROOM AND ABOVE.

AND SO A LOT OF YOUR HOUSING PRODUCTION OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS HAVE BEEN MULTIFAMILY, AND THEY'RE PRIMARILY STUDIO AND ONE BEDROOM UNITS.

AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY YOU'RE SEEING THAT TREND OF THREE BEDROOM UNITS DECREASING.

ALSO, LE STANDS FOR LOW INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDIT.

THAT'S YOUR THE REALLY ACROSS THE NATION, THE PRIMARY WAY OF FINANCING AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

AND THAT HASN'T CHANGED ANY IN THE PAST FIVE YEARS AND REALLY HASN'T CHANGED.

UM, 2002 WAS THE LAST, UM, HOUSING TAX CREDIT PROJECT THAT WAS FINANCED.

UM, THE BRANDING WINE APARTMENTS WERE REFINANCED AND, AND RECAPITALIZED.

SO YOU ONLY HAVE TWO LYX SUPPORTED, UM, APARTMENTS IN THE CITY OF RICHARDSON.

UM, YOU HAVE THE EVERGREEN SENIOR, AND THEN YOU HAVE BRANDING WINE.

SO BOTH OF THEM FOCUS ON OLDER ADULTS, SENIORS.

SO YOU HAVE NO SUBSIDIZED HOUSING IN RICHARDSON THAT FOCUSES ON FAMILIES.

SO THE NEXT THING WE'RE GONNA HOP INTO IS LOOKING AT HOMEOWNERS, RENTERS, AND THEN HOME BUYERS.

AND YOU CAN SEE THAT, UH, RIGHT NOW RICHARDSON IS PRETTY EVENLY SPLIT BETWEEN RENTERS AND HOMEOWNERS AND OWNER OCCUPIED HOUSEHOLDS ARE ACTUALLY GROWING A LITTLE BIT.

SO IF YOU SEE THE HOUSEHOLD SIZE IN 2018 WAS 2.67, AND NOW IN 2023, THAT'S 2.72.

AND ONE OF THE REASONS COULD BE BECAUSE OF HOUSING AFFORDABILITY.

SO YOU HAVE CHILDREN MOVING BACK INTO THE HOME, UM, OR PARENTS AND, AND THEIR CHILDREN LIVING TO THE TOGETHER WHEN THE, UM, THE PARENTS HAVE AGED JUST TO SAVE ON HOUSING COSTS.

SO RENTER HOUSEHOLDS ARE SHRINKING AND YOUR OWNER OCCUPIED HOMES ARE, ARE GROWING AND CERTAINLY REAL ESTATE TAXES IS STU SOMETHING THAT'S IMPACTING HOUSING AFFORDABILITY.

REAL ESTATE TAXES OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS HAVE RIB RISEN BY ABOUT 40%, UM, FOR HOUSEHOLDS.

AND THEN IF WE LOOK AT HOUSING AFFORDABILITY BASED ON WHETHER YOU HAVE A MORTGAGE, UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT YOU'RE, I WANTED TO FOCUS ON HOMEOWNERS THAT DON'T HAVE A MORTGAGE.

SO THE HOME IS PAID OFF, THEY DON'T HAVE A MORTGAGE PAYMENT.

AND SO YOU MIGHT ASK YOURSELF HOW IF THEY DON'T HAVE A MORTGAGE PAYMENT, HOW CAN A HOMEOWNER STILL BE HOUSING COSTS BURDENED? WELL, BECAUSE YOUR HOUSING COSTS INCLUDE YOUR MORTGAGE OR YOUR RENT PAYMENT, UM, BUT ALSO IF YOU HAVE HOA FEES, YOUR PROPERTY TAXES AND, UM, IN PROPERTY INSURANCE.

AND SO WE ALL KNOW, UM, THAT PROPERTY INSURANCE HAS BEEN RISING PRETTY ASTRONOMICALLY AS WELL AS PROPERTY TAXES.

SO IT'S LIKELY THAT THE MAJORITY OF THOSE HOMEOWNERS WITHOUT A MORTGAGE WHO ARE REPORTING THAT THEIR HOUSING COST BURDEN, IT'S BECAUSE OF THE HOME INSURANCE, UM, OR THE PROPERTY TAXES.

AND THEN IF WE LOOK AT RENTERS, UH, YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT THE RENTAL VACANCY RATE HAS DROPPED FROM 7.3 TO ABOUT 5.1%.

SO AGAIN, EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE PRODU PRODUCING MORE UNITS, THOSE UNITS ARE GETTING SNATCHED UP PRETTY QUICKLY.

UM, AND SO YOUR VACANCY RATE HAS DROPPED, AS I MENTIONED, UH, THE RENTER HOUSEHOLD SIZE HAS, IS DECREASING, AND ABOUT 50% OF THE RENTERS WHO LIVE IN THE CITY REPORT THAT THEIR HOUSING COST BURDENED.

UM, THAT'S PRETTY TYPICAL ACROSS THE UNITED STATES.

UM, RENTERS, UNLIKE A, A HOMEOWNER WHO IF THEY HAVE A MORTGAGE, THAT MORTGAGE IS A STEADY HOUSING PAYMENT BECAUSE IT'S A, IT'S A LONG-TERM LIKELY NOT AN ADJUSTABLE RATE MORTGAGE.

SO EVERY MONTH THEIR MORTGAGE PAYMENT IS THE SAME WITH A RENTER.

THEIR LANDLORD ON A YEARLY BASIS CAN RAISE THEIR RENT.

AND SO, UM, RENTERS OFTEN CAN GET INTO A UNIT THAT THEY CAN BARELY AFFORD.

THEY CAN QUALIFY AT THE FIRST OUTSET, BUT THEN AS THE RENT IS RAISED EVERY YEAR, THEY CAN BECOME HOUSING COST BURDENED.

WE ALSO WANTED TO LOOK, I JUST WANTED TO REMIND YOU, WE TALKED ABOUT NOAA NATURALLY OCCURRING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND THAT'S USUALLY YOUR OLDER, AFFORDABLE OR YOUR OLDER UNITS.

AND SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE PRE 1980 PROPERTIES THAT EXIST IN RICHARDSON, UM, BACK IN 2015, THE AVERAGE RENT WAS, UM, UNDER A THOUSAND DOLLARS.

NOW IT'S CLOSE TO 1400.

SO IT'S RISEN BY ABOUT, UM, ALMOST $500.

UM, AND THEN YOUR PROPERTIES THAT WERE BUILT 2015 AND LATER HAS RISEN BY ABOUT $300.

SO LIKELY YOU'VE ALREADY HAD YOUR LOWEST INCOME FAMILIES IN RICHARDSON HAVE BEEN PRICED OUT,

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UM, BECAUSE OF THAT SIGNIFICANT RENT INCREASE THAT'S HAPPENED IN YOUR NATURALLY OCCURRING AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

AND AS I MENTIONED, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY OFFICIALLY SUBSIDIZED UNITS.

SO IF A FAMILY CAN'T ACCESS A NOAA PROPERTY, UM, THEY LIKELY CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE IN RICHARDSON.

AND WE CERTAINLY HAVE HEARD SOME OF THAT FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, UM, AS THEY'VE SEEN DECLINING POPULATION.

SO A LITTLE BIT OF MATH.

UM, WE WANTED TO HELP UNDERSTAND WHO COULD AFFORD TO RENT IN THE CITY OF RICHARDSON.

AND SO IF YOU LOOK DOWN AT THE, UM, BOTTOM PART OF THE SLIDE THAT SAYS 96,257, THAT'S YOUR MEDIAN INCOME IN THE CITY.

AND SO, UM, IF THAT HOUSEHOLD WAS ONLY PAYING 30% OF THEIR INCOME ON, UM, HOUSING EXPENSES, THEY'D BE PAYING ABOUT 29.

THEY COULD AFFORD TO PAY ABOUT $29,000 PER YEAR IN HOUSING EXPENSES.

IF WE DIVIDE THAT BY 1220 8,000 DIVIDED BY 12, THEY COULD AFFORD TO SPEND ABOUT $2,400 A MONTH ON RENT.

AND SO YOUR AVERAGE RICHARDSON MONTHLY RENTS FROM YOUR VINTAGE PROPERTIES UP TO YOUR NEWER PROPERTIES RANGE FROM ABOUT 1400 TO 1800.

SO THE FAMILY MAKING, UH, THE MEDIAN INCOME IN THE CITY OF RICHARDSON COULD COMFORTABLY AFFORD TO RENT.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT STORY IF WE LOOK AT A FAMILY THAT'S EARNING, UM, WHAT'S CALLED 50% OF THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME.

SO THIS ISN'T AN EXACT MATH EQUATION FROM YOUR MEDIAN INCOME TO 50%, BUT THIS IS HOW HUD DEFINES A FAMILY AS BEING, UM, VERY LOW INCOME.

UM, IF THEY'RE AT 50% OF THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME, AND SO THAT IS 58,650.

SO THAT FAMILY COULD AFFORD TO SPEND 30% OF THAT THEIR INCOME, WHICH IS ABOUT $18,000 ON RENT.

IF WE DIVIDE THAT BY 12, THEY CAN SPEND ABOUT 1,466 PER MONTH ON RENT.

AND SO THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO AFFORD ONE OF YOUR LOWER PRICED UNITS THAT EXIST IN THE CITY.

BUT IF THAT RENT CONTINUES TO INCREASE AT A PACE THAT'S HIGHER THAN THEIR WAGE IS INCREASING, THAT FAMILY WOULD QUICKLY BECOME HOUSING COST BURDENED.

NOW ON TO HOME BUYERS.

SO THIS DATA IS FROM THE TEXAS A AND M REAL ESTATE RESEARCH CENTER, WHICH PUBLISHES A, A WEALTH OF DATA ON HOUSING, UM, HOUSING SALES PRICES.

SO IN 2011, THE AVERAGE HOME SALES PRICE IN RICHARDSON WAS 187,784.

I REMEMBER THOSE DAYS.

UM, IN 2024, THE AVERAGE HOME SALES PRICE HAD RISEN TO 515,633.

SO THAT REPRESENTS AN INCREASE OF 175%, UM, OVER, UM, ABOUT 13 YEARS.

WHILE THIS TREND'S WONDERFUL FROM A PROPERTY TAX COLLECTION STANDPOINT, UM, BECAUSE THESE RISING SALES PRICES USUALLY LEAD TO HIGHER ASSESSED VALUES, IT'S VERY CONCERNING WHEN YOU THINK BACK TO ENVI ENVISION RICHARDSON, WHERE YOU ENVISION A DYNAMIC, THRIVING AND DIVERSE COMMUNITY.

SO AS THESE HOME SALES PRICES HAVE RISEN, MORE AND MORE FAMILIES ARE PRICED OUT OF THE CITY OF RICHARDSON.

AND SO WE CAN LOOK AT IT ANOTHER WAY TOO.

I KNOW THIS IS SMALL, BUT IT'S LOOKING AT 2017 THROUGH 2024 AND THE PERCENTAGE OF HOMES THAT WERE PRICED AT 300,000 OR LESS.

UM, SO BACK IN 20 17, 50 5% OF YOUR HOMES SOLD FOR $300,000 OR LESS.

AND NOW IN 2024, LESS THAN 8% OF HOMES SELL FOR LESS THAN 300,000.

SO NOT ONLY IS IT AN ISSUE WITH THE, THE AVERAGE SALES PRICE, BUT EVEN THOSE HOMES THAT ARE AT THE LOWER END OF YOUR MARKET JUST ARE NOT THAT LOW, UM, IN TERMS OF SALE PRICE.

SO, UM, YOU COULD, IT COULD BE CHARACTER CHARACTERIZED THAT THERE'S VERY LITTLE ENTRY LEVEL OR STARTER HOMES.

AND CERTAINLY THE HISTORY OF RICHARDSON WAS AT ONE POINT THIS WAS A COMMUNITY WHERE YOU COULD MOVE IN, YOU COULD BUY A STARTER HOME, YOU COULD, UM, RAISE YOUR FAMILY AND INCREASE YOUR INCOME.

UM, BUT IT'S BECOMING LESS OF AN OPTION FOR FAMILIES.

SO HERE'S ANOTHER WAY TO LOOK AT IT.

SO THIS IS A SLIDE THAT'S LOOKING AT STANDARD MORTGAGE UNDERWRITING TERMS AND EXISTING INTEREST RATES, BECAUSE ALL OF THOSE REALLY DO AFFECT AFFORDABILITY AS WELL AS THE SALES PRICE ITSELF.

SO IF WE USE THE AVERAGE SALES PRICE FOR HOME AND RICHARDSON OF ABOUT A HUNDRED, 515,000, AND WE LOOK AT A FAMILY THAT'S EARNING THE ANNUAL INCOME, MEDIAN ANNUAL INCOME OF 96,257, IF THEY HAVE A SIX POINT, IF THEY'RE OFFERED A 6.4 INTEREST RATE AND A, UH, A LONG TERM LOAN AND THEY HAVE TO MAKE A 10% DOWN PAYMENT, HERE'S KIND OF HOW THE MATH WORKS.

SO THEY'VE GOT THEIR SALES PRICE, BUT WE HAVE TO ADD IN SOME CLOSING COSTS.

SO THEY'RE ALL, THEIR PURCHASE PRICE IS ABOUT 520,000,

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BUT BECAUSE OF THEIR LOWER INCOME AND THE HIGH COST OF THE HOME UNDERWRITING TAKES INTO ACCOUNT, UM, REAL ESTATE TAXES ALSO.

SO THAT FAMILY WOULD ONLY QUALIFY FOR A MAXIMUM LOAN OF 173,591.

THEY PUT DOWN THE MINIMUM 10% DOWN PAYMENT, THAT'S 51,000, BUT THEY STILL WOULD HAVE TO BRING ALMOST $300,000 IN CASH TO THE TABLE TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD THAT HOME.

SO THAT FAMILY CANNOT MOVE INTO THE CITY OF RICHARDSON UNLESS THEY FIND SOMETHING AT THE END OF THE RAINBOW.

SO LET'S GO INTO YOUR HOUSING STRATEGY SO WE CAN ADDRESS WHAT YOUR PRIORITY NEEDS ARE AND SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

SO AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE LOOKING AT IS WHAT ARE YOU DOING ALREADY AND WHAT SHOULD YOU CONTINUE TO DO? SO FROM A PLANNING AND A LAND USE STANDPOINT IN ENVISION RICHARDSON, THERE IS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING.

UM, SO NOW'S THE TIME TO TAKE THAT NEXT STEP TO START TO REZONE SOME AREAS OF THE CITY, UM, TO ALLOW MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING.

AND THAT CAN INCLUDE DUPLEXES, TOWN HOMES, CONDOS, AND OTHER, UM, TYPES OF HOUSING THAT MORE EFFICIENTLY USE LAND BECAUSE YOU HAVE MORE UNITS ON A SMALLER PIECE OF LAND.

YOUR CODE ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM IS VERY STRONG.

THAT'S WHY MUCH OF YOUR HOUSING IS IN VERY GOOD CONDITION, AND YOU DON'T SEE AREAS OF THE CITY THAT HAVE REALLY DECREASED RENTS BECAUSE EVEN YOUR MORE VINTAGE PROPERTIES ARE STILL IN FAIRLY GOOD CONDITION.

UM, SO CONTINUING YOUR STRONG CODE ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM AND YOU REGISTER YOUR YOUR HOMES, UM, BOTH ON THE SINGLE FAMILY RENTAL SIDE, UM, BECAUSE ABOUT 20% OF RICHARDSON RENTERS ACTUALLY LIVE IN SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

SO CONTINUING TO UNDERSTAND, UM, WHERE YOUR RENTERS ARE LIVING AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE LIVING IN GOOD CONDITIONS.

YOU'VE, UH, STRATEGICALLY USED, UM, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOOLS LIKE TAX INCREMENT FINANCING AND, AND TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT.

YOU SHOULD CONTINUE TO DO THAT.

AND YOU HAVE A VERY STRONG, UM, RESIDENT SUPPORT AND RE RESIDENT ENGAGEMENT PROGRAMS FROM YOUR HIP PROGRAM, AS WELL AS YOUR VOLUNTEER ASSISTANCE PROGRAM THAT DOES HELP WITH SOME REPAIRS THAT HOMEOWNERS MAY FACE.

AND THEN YOU'RE, YOU'RE ENGAGING YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD SO THEY CAN HELP, UM, REALLY KIND OF, UH, LOOK AFTER YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO IT'S NOT ALL OF A CITY RESPONSIBILITY TO MAINTAIN THE QUALITY OF NEIGHBORHOODS.

SO ALL OF THESE THINGS WE RECOMMEND YOU CONTINUE DOING, BUT BASED ON THE DATA THAT WE REVIEWED, AND YOU ONLY GOT A SNAPSHOT OF IT, BUT THE, THE FULL, UM, REPORT THAT THE CITY RE WILL RECEIVE HAS SIGNIFICANTLY MORE DATA ANALYSIS.

THERE ARE THREE PRIMARY HOUSING NEEDS.

SO THE FIRST IS THAT OLDER LOWER INCOME HOMEOWNERS NEED THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAFELY AGE IN PLACE.

AND THAT'S E EITHER TO AGE IN THE HOME THAT THEY'RE ALREADY IN, OR IF THEY REALLY WANNA STAY CLOSE TO, UM, THEIR CHURCH, THEIR RELATIVES, THEIR COMMUNITIES, AND STILL STAY IN RICHARDSON, WHERE IS THEIR SENIOR FRIENDLY HOUSING THAT THEY COULD MOVE INTO NEED.

TWO IS THAT THERE'S A NEED FOR MORE REASONABLY PRICED FOR SALE UNITS TO ACCOMMODATE FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN, REALLY ALL TYPES OF FAMILIES.

BUT, UM, AS WE'RE SEEING THOSE HOUSEHOLD SIZES GROW, UM, LOOKING AT FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN IN MULTI-GENERATIONAL FAMILIES AND THEN MORE WELL MAINTAINED RENTAL UNITS ARE NEEDED THAT ARE AFFORDABLE FOR LOWER WAGE WORKERS.

UM, WHEN WE TALKED TO RICHARDSON EMPLOYERS, THEY SAID, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY'RE LOWER SKILLED WORKERS, LOWER WAGE WORKERS ARE LIVING IN PRINCETON, VAN ALSTEIN, ANNA, ALL OF WHICH ARE ABOUT A 45 MINUTE TO AN HOUR LONG COMMUTE.

UM, SO RICHARDSON EMPLOYERS CERTAINLY SEE VALUE IN HAVING OPPORTUNITIES FOR MORE OF THEIR EMPLOYEES TO LIVE IN THE CITY.

UM, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THEY MENTIONED WHEN WE, WE TALKED WITH THEM.

SO I'M GONNA COME BACK TO THIS SLIDE AT THE END BECAUSE IT MIGHT HELP GUIDE THE DISCUSSION.

BUT WHAT I WANTED TO DO HERE WAS REALLY SHOW HOW THE RECOMMENDED STRATEGIES ARE ALIGNED IN VARIOUS WAYS.

SO ONE IS THAT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOUSING, IT'S NOT JUST DEVELOPING NEW HOUSING, IT'S PRESERVING THE QUALITY OF THE HOUSING THAT ALREADY EXISTS IN YOUR CITY.

SO SOME OF YOUR TOOLS, UM, RELATE TO PRESERVING YOUR EXISTING HOUSING STOCK.

THERE ARE A NUMBER THAT RELATE TO DEVELOPMENT.

AND THEN ECONOMIC MOBILITY IS HOW DO WE HELP FAMILIES ACCESS HOUSING THAT'S MARKET RATE, FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS. SO THAT GIVES THEM THAT ABILITY TO MOVE INTO THE CITY OF RICHARDSON.

AND THEN WE'VE ALSO CATEGORIZED THE NEEDS OR THE STRATEGIES FOR BOTH HOME BUYERS AND RENTERS BECAUSE WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO SERVE THE NEEDS OF BOTH, UM, BOTH TYPES OF, OF HOUSEHOLDS, WHETHER THEY CHOOSE TO RENT OR THEY WOULD LIKE TO OWN.

UM, AND, AND THEN ON THE FAR END OF THE SLIDE, YOU CAN SEE HOW THE HOUSING NEEDS AND THE STRATEGIES ARE ALIGNED.

AND AGAIN, I'LL COME BACK TO THIS SLIDE.

SO THE FIRST THING WE RECOMMEND

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IS A NEW TIER OF THE HIP PROGRAM.

UM, THE CITY OF RICHARDSON HAS NEVER ACCEPTED, OH, SORRY, LET ME, LET ME STEP BACK JUST FOR A SECOND, JUST TO GIVE YOU THE LAYOUT OF HOW THESE NEXT SLIDES WILL GO.

UM, WE WANT YOU TO BE ABLE TO SUCCESSFULLY IMPLEMENT THIS STRATEGY.

SO WE'RE NOT JUST PRESENTING STRATEGIES, BUT WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT WHO HAS TO BE INVOLVED, HOW DO YOU FUND IT, ARE THERE WAYS TO LAYER AND LEVERAGE OTHER RESOURCES SO THAT YOU CAN BE SUCCESSFUL? SO FOR ALL OF THE, THE PROPOSED STRATEGIES WE LOOK AT, WHO ARE THE KEY CONTRIBUTORS, WHO NEEDS TO BE INVOLVED, HOW ARE WE GONNA PAY FOR IT? HOW COULD WE LAYER ON OTHER INCENTIVES OR OTHER TOOLS? AND THEN HOW DIFFICULT IS IT, IS IT GOING TO BE RIGHT? BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT, UM, TIMING OF IMPLEMENTING SOME OR ALL OF THESE STRATEGIES AND WOULD NEVER RECOMMEND THAT YOU CHOOSE ALL OF YOUR MOST COMPLEX THINGS TO TRY TO GET DONE IN THE FIRST YEAR 'CAUSE YOU'RE NOT SETTING YOURSELF UP FOR SUCCESS.

AND THEN IN THE NEXT PRESENTATION, PART TWO OF THIS, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE MARKET VALUE ANALYSIS AND WHETHER ANY OF THESE PROGRAMS SHOULD BE GEOGRAPHICALLY TARGETED.

AND SO IN THE NEXT PRESENTATION, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT, THE MVA AREA.

SO NOW LET ME HOP INTO THE, UM, THE NEW TIER OF HIP.

SO THE CITY OF RICHARDSON HAS NEVER ACCEPTED COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDING, UNDERSTANDABLY.

UM, IT'S, THERE'S CONSTRAINTS AND OPPORTUNITIES, RIGHT? AND THERE THERE ARE REGULATIONS THAT RELATE TO COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDING.

WE ALSO KNOW THAT THERE IS, UM, SOME INTERESTING THINGS GOING ON AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL.

UM, SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND THAT THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT PROGRAM COULD BE MODIFIED IN THE 2026 BUDGET, BUT PRESUMING THAT FUNDING REMAINS THE SAME, THE CITY WOULD QUALIFY FOR ABOUT 670,000 PER YEAR IN COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDING.

UM, THE BENEFIT OF CDBG IS YOU CAN PAY BOTH FOR YOUR COST TO ADMINISTER A PROGRAM AS WELL AS THE PROGRAM COSTS OUT OF CDBG.

SO IT CAN BE A, A REVENUE NEUTRAL WAY FOR YOU TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SERVICES TO YOUR, YOUR HOMEOWNERS.

UM, SO IT'S RECOMMENDED THAT YOU DON'T TRY TO DO A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT CDBG ACTIVITIES.

YOU FOCUS ON ONE, YOU LEARN HOW TO OPERATE THE PROGRAM, AND SO YOU ADDRESS THE REPAIR NEEDS OF OLDER HOMEOWNERS, UM, WHO THEY MAY NOT HAVE THE MORTGAGE, BUT THEY HAVE A VERY LOW INCOME AND ARE NOT ABLE TO MAKE REPAIRS.

RIGHT NOW, YOUR VOLUNTEER ASSISTANCE PROGRAM IS ABLE TO HELP WITH MINOR REPAIRS, BUT IF YOU HAD SIGNIFICANT ROOFING OR STRUCTURAL ISSUES, IT'S NOT THE, IT'S NOT WELL SUITED FOR, UM, HOMEOWNERS.

SO THIS WOULD ALLOW YOU TO HELP HOMEOWNERS SAFELY AGE IN PLACE IN THEIR EXISTING HOME FROM A REVENUE NEUTRAL PERSPECTIVE.

UM, THERE'S ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY THROUGH NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT ZONES THAT ANY INCREMENT IN PROPERTY TAX REVENUE THAT'S ATTRIBUTABLE TO THOSE REPAIRS THAT ARE MADE AT THE HOME, UM, COULD BE ABATED, KIND OF SIMILAR TO YOUR HIP PROGRAM.

UM, SO THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY THING WHERE YOU WOULD HAVE, UM, POTENTIAL LOSS OF REVENUE, AND THAT WOULD BE MODERATELY COMPLEX.

YOU HAVE AN, YOU HAVEN'T ACCEPTED CDBG FUNDING BEFORE, SO YOU'D NEED TO TO LEARN HOW TO ADMINISTER A PROGRAM LIKE THAT.

THE SECOND THING IS, IS TO DEVELOP SENIOR FRIENDLY HOUSING.

UM, AND THIS, THIS CAN BE DONE IN A NUMBER OF WAYS.

THIS IS WHERE YOU COULD PARTNER WITH NONPROFITS LIKE HABITAT FOR HUMANITY THAT ALREADY, UM, IS BUILDING DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOUSING.

UM, BUT INVIS ENVISION RICHARDSON, YOU ENVISION THAT THERE'S MORE MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING.

SO THERE'S ONE THING TO ALLOW IT, THERE'S ANOTHER THING TO INCENTIVIZE A PARTICULAR TYPE OF MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING.

SO ONE THING WE HEARD FROM REALTORS WHEN WE WERE MEETING WITH THEM WAS THAT SENIORS DON'T MIND DOWNSIZING, BUT MOVING INTO A THREE STORY TOWN HOME IS NOT REALLY WHAT THEY'D LIKE TO DO JUST AS THEY'RE TAKING INTO ACCOUNT AGING AND, AND THEIR NEEDS.

AND SO DEVELOPING PLANS WHERE IT COULD BE MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING, BUT IT MIGHT BE A TOWN HOME COMMUNITY WHERE IT'S ONE STORY TOWN HOMES AND DEVELOPING PRE-APPROVED PLANS SO THAT, UH, IT'S EASIER TO DEVELOP THAT TYPE OF HOUSING IN THE CITY OF RICHARDSON.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UH, A HABITAT FOR HUMANITY MIGHT JUMP ON IF THEY ALREADY KNOW THIS IS YOUR PRIORITY IN THE CITY.

HERE'S SOME PRE-APPROVED PLANS, WE JUST NEED TO GO BUILD THE HOUSING.

UM, AND THEN THE THIRD THING, AND THIS IS MORE OF A COMPLEX, BUT STILL DOABLE, IS FORMING A COMMUNITY OR AUTHORIZING A COMMUNITY.

LAND TRUST, A COMMUNITY LAND TRUST REDUCES HOUSING COSTS, UM, BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY LAND TRUST AS A NONPROFIT OWNS THE LAND UNDERNEATH THE HOME, AND THE HOMEOWNER ONLY HAS TO, UM, PAY PROPERTY TAXES AND MORTGAGE PAYMENTS ON THE HOUSE ITSELF.

UM, SO THIS CAN BE SOMETHING, AGAIN, IT COULD BE RUN BY A, A LOCAL NONPROFIT SUCH AS A HABITAT FOR HUMANITY THAT IS FOCUSED ON AFFORDABILITY FOR SENIORS AND OPERATING A COMMUNITY LAND TRUST.

IT IMPACTS THE CITY,

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THOUGH BECAUSE PROPERTY TAXES ARE DEPRESSED WITHIN A COMMUNITY LAND TRUST BECAUSE COMMUNITY LAND TRUST HOMES WHEN THEY'RE RESOLD MUST BE SOLD AT AN AFFORDABLE PRICE.

AND SO THE TAX ASSESSOR TAKES THAT INTO ACCOUNT, UM, WHEN THEY'RE ASSESSING, UM, TAXES OR WHEN THEY'RE ASSESSING THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY.

AND, UM, IN THE APPENDIX TO THIS PRESENTATION, WHICH I BELIEVE YOU RECEIVED, THERE'S MORE INFORMATION ON COMMUNITY LAND TRUSTS.

SO REALLY QUICKLY, JUST WANTED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT CDBG.

ANY ACTIVITY THAT YOU ENGAGE IN FOR CDBG HAS TO MEET ONE OF THE THREE NATIONAL OBJECTIVES, BENEFITING LOW AND MODERATE INCOME PERSONS, ELIMINATING SLUMS OR BLIGHT OR RESPONDING TO AN URGENT NEED.

YOU CAN'T REALLY USE URGENT NEED VERY EASILY.

SO IT'S REALLY THOSE TWO NATIONAL OBJECTIVES.

AND THEN EVERY ACTIVITY HAS TO BE AN ELIGIBLE ACTIVITY.

HOME REPAIR IS DEFINITELY AN ELIGIBLE ACTIVITY, AND LIKE I MENTIONED, YOU ARE ABLE TO USE SOME CDBG FUNDS ON ADMINISTRATION, UP TO 20% OF YOUR ANNUAL ALLOCATION CAN BE USED TO ADMINISTER THE PROGRAM ITSELF.

AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER OTHER CDBG QUESTIONS AT THE END OF THE PRESENTATION.

SO THE NEXT HOUSING NEED IS MORE REASONABLY ABLY PRICED FOR SALE UNITS ARE NEEDED TO ACCOMMODATE FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN.

AND SO ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE MET WITH EMPLOYERS WAS TO START SOCIALIZING THE IDEA OF DO YOU SEE A NEED, UM, TO ASSIST SOME OF YOUR EMPLOYEES SO THAT THEY CAN BUY, UM, CLOSER TO WHERE THEY WORK? AND WOULD YOU EVER BE INTERESTED IN PARTICIPATING IN THE PROGRAM? AND IN GENERAL, EMPLOYERS SAID WE'D BE INTERESTED IN LEARNING MORE ABOUT IT.

UM, AND SO ONE SUGGESTED SUGGESTION IS AN EMPLOYER ASSISTED HOUSING PROGRAM WHERE YOUR EMPLOYERS CONTRIBUTE TO A POOL OF FUNDING, UM, AS WELL AS THE CITY OF RICHARDSON TO HELP PROVIDE DOWN PAYMENT AND CLOSING COST ASSISTANCE TO EMPLOYEES OF THOSE, UH, MAJOR EMPLOYERS SO THAT THEY CAN AFFORD TO PURCHASE IN THE CITY OF RICHARDSON IF THEY'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO LIVE IN THE CITY OF RICHARDSON.

UM, ONE UNIQUE THING IN THE TEXAS CODE RELATED TO TAX INCREMENT FINANCING IS THAT UNUSED TIF FUNDS CAN BE DEVOTED TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING ACTIVITIES ANYWHERE IN THE CITY.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO STAY WITHIN THE TIF.

UM, SO THAT'S ONE POTENTIAL WAY THAT YOU COULD SEED, UM, SUCH A FUND AS THIS WITH YOUR, YOUR TIF FUNDING.

YOU COULD ALSO MAKE IT SO THAT WITH THE DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, IT IS A SOFT SECOND MORTGAGE THAT JUST SITS BENEATH THE FIRST MORTGAGE SO THAT WHEN THE HOME IS REPAID, THAT MONEY GOES BACK TO THE CITY AND YOU CAN REVOLVE THAT FUNDING, UM, AND SUPPORT MORE HOMEOWNERS.

THE SECOND TOOL IS REALLY TO START, UM, IMPLEMENTING, UH, ENVISION RICHARDSON AND REZONING MORE AREAS OF THE CITY FOR MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING.

AND THEN FINALLY TO IDENTIFY AREAS IN THE CITY THAT MAYBE COULD BE USED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND CURRENTLY ARE PUBLIC LAND EITHER OWNED BY THE CITY OR FOR EXAMPLE, SCHOOL DISTRICTS, UM, AND FINDING A WAY TO INCENTIVIZE BUILDING, UM, MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING OR OTHER TYPES OF SENIOR HOUSING ON THIS PUBLIC LAND.

AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, CHATTING WITH CITY STAFF, THERE MAY BE SOME OPPORTUNITIES IN THE CITY OF RICHARDSON, NOT HUGE PARCELS OF LAND, BUT LAND WHERE YOU COULD, UM, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE, UM, USING THE LAND MORE EFFICIENTLY, WHERE YOU COULD BUILD A NUMBER OF HOUSING UNITS AND THEN, OH, HERE I WANTED TO.

SO IF WE ARE ABLE TO BUILD HOUSING THAT USES LAND MORE EFFICIENTLY, SUCH AS MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING, THAT HOUSING TENDS TO BE SOLD AT A LOWER PRICE.

AND SO THIS ENVISIONS WHAT IF A, A PERSON COULD BUY A HOME IN THE CITY OF RICHARDSON FOR $300,000 AND THEY'RE MAKING THAT MEDIAN INCOME OF $96,000.

HOW DOES THE MATH WORK NOW? AND WE'RE ALSO GONNA GET THEM INTO A LITTLE BIT BETTER OF A MORTGAGE PRODUCT WHERE THEY ONLY HAVE TO PUT 3.5% DOWN AND THEY'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT BETTER INTEREST RATE.

AND SO YOU CAN SEE HOW THE MATH LOOKS A LOT BETTER ON THIS SLIDE.

IF THEIR TOTAL ALL IN PURCHASE PRICE IS $305,000 BECAUSE THEY'RE PURCHASING A SMALLER HOME AND THE TAXES ON THAT HOME ARE LOWER, THEIR CAPACITY TO BORROW A MORTGAGE IS HIGHER.

AND SO THEY COULD PER, THEY COULD HAVE A, A MORTGAGE LOAN OR QUALIFY FOR A MORTGAGE LOAN OF 289,500, THEY PUT DOWN THE MINIMUM DOWN PAYMENT OF 10,000.

THEY'D ONLY HAVE TO COME UP WITH ANOTHER 5,000.

SO YOU CAN SEE WHEN YOU CAN ADDRESS SOME OF THE ISSUES, ESPECIALLY SALES PRICE, UM, THAT FAMILY WOULD BE ABLE TO PURCHASE IN THE CITY OF RICHARDSON.

AND SO FINALLY, WITH HOUSING NEED THREE IS FOCUSING ON THOSE WELL-MAINTAINED AFFORDABLE UNITS FOR RENTERS.

UM, AND REALLY THESE THREE TOOLS ARE ALL TIED IN TOGETHER.

SO YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO USE ADDITIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOOLS, UM, TO CREATE A LAYERED IN INCENTIVE PROJECT

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TO ENCOURAGE EITHER THE DEVELOPMENT OF NEW HOUSING UNITS OR ESPECIALLY THE REHAB OF EXISTING UNITS.

THAT'S YOUR NOAA HOUSING.

BUT IF THEY WERE BOUGHT BY SOMEONE AND THEY, UM, IT WAS A VALUE ADD AND THEY INVESTED IN, IN YOUR NOAA HOUSING, IT'S NOA NO LONGER IT'S MARKET RATE HOUSING.

SO HOW COULD WE TAKE SOME OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES WITH YOUR AGING APARTMENT COMPLEXES AND CREATING A PACKAGE THAT REALLY INCENTIVIZES A DEVELOPER TO REHAB, BUT THEN KEEP THOSE RENTS AFFORDABLE? UM, SO ONE THING IS, UM, A NUMBER OF YOUR AGING APARTMENT COMPLEXES ARE IN WEST SPRING VALLEY, WHICH IS ALREADY A TIF AREA.

UM, SO YOU COULD POTENTIALLY USE TIF FUNDING AS A TIF GRANT TO INCENTIVIZE SOME OF THAT REHAB, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY TO ADJUST SOME OF YOUR CITY POLICIES TO ALSO ENCOURAGE, UM, MORE INVESTMENT.

SO CURRENTLY YOU DON'T HAVE A STANDARD POLICY FOR WHEN A, UM, HOUSING DEVELOPER WHO WANTS TO USE LOW INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDITS COMES TO THE CITY OF RICHARDSON.

UM, YOU COULD DEVELOP A STANDARD POLICY THAT REALLY FOCUSES DEVELOPERS ON SPECIFIC AREAS OF THE CITY AND LETS THEM KNOW THAT WE ARE INTERESTED, UM, IN HIGH QUALITY, AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS, IN SPECIFIC AREAS.

UM, YOU COULD, AND SO YOU COULD LAYER A NUMBER OF THINGS.

UM, YOU COULD ALSO CREATE A HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION AND A, AND A PUBLIC FACILITY CORPORATION THAT COULD PROVIDE A TAX EXEMPTION TO THOSE, UM, AREAS THAT YOU REALLY FOCUS ON.

THIS IS NOT SAYING THAT YOU WOULD APPROVE 15 PROJECTS, THIS MIGHT BE ONE OR TWO PROJECTS THAT YOU ALSO ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE A TAX EXEMPTION BECAUSE YOU REALLY ARE CONCERNED IN, UM, ELEVATING, UM, THE CONDITION OF THOSE APARTMENT UNITS AND MAKING THOSE UNITS AFFORDABLE.

THE GOOD THING ABOUT A HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION AND A PFC IS THEY CAN ACTUALLY EARN REVENUE, UM, BECAUSE THEY BECOME PARTNERS WITH THE HOUSING DEVELOPERS.

AND SO YOU EARN DEVELOPMENT FEES AT CLOSING, UM, AND YOU CAN ALSO EARN FEES WHEN THAT, WHENEVER THAT PROPERTY IS SOLD.

SO IT IS A WAY THAT YOU ACTUALLY CAN CREATE A NEW SOURCE TO SUPPORT HOUSING, UM, HOUSING ACTIVITIES IN THE CITY.

AND THEN FINALLY, AND I'LL ADDRESS THIS JUST IN A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ON THE NEXT SLIDE, BUT, UM, OPPORTUNITY ZONES IS REALLY WHAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S GONNA BE FOCUSED ON FOR THE NEXT, UM, THREE YEARS AND BEYOND.

UM, IT'S REALLY THE KEY FOCUS OF HUD RIGHT NOW.

UM, AND YOU HAVE THE ABILITY STARTING THIS SUMMER TO PETITION THE GOVERNOR TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY ZONE, UH, DESIGNATED IN THE CITY OF RICHARDSON IN THE LAST ROUND, UM, IN 2017 WHEN OPPORTUNITY ZONES WERE DESIGNATED, THERE WERE NO OPPORTUNITY ZONES IN THE CITY OF RICHARDSON.

SO NOW GUIDED BY A HOUSING STRATEGY, UM, YOU COULD PETITION THE GOVERNOR TO HAVE ONE OR MORE OF THESE AREAS THAT POTENTIALLY WOULD QUALIFY TO BE DESIGNATED AS AN OPPORTUNITY ZONE.

AND IT'S JUST ANOTHER WAY TO DRIVE CAPITAL, UM, INTO A SPECIFIC AREA BECAUSE PEOPLE WITH CAPITAL GAINS TAX LIABILITY, UM, HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO INVEST IN AN OPPORTUNITY ZONE FUND AND HAVE, UM, PREFERENTIAL TAX TREATMENT OF THAT INVESTMENT.

ALRIGHT, WE ARE ALMOST DONE.

SO NEXT STEPS, IT'LL BE JUST AS THRILLING THE NEXT TIME AROUND WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT GOALS AND RESOURCES.

UM, SO BASED ON YOUR FEEDBACK, WE WILL GO AND WE WILL DIVE EVEN DEEPER INTO SOME OF THESE RECOMMENDED STRATEGIES AND REALLY LOOK AT, UM, BASED ON POTENTIAL RESOURCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE, UM, AND STAFF CAPACITY, WHAT COULD YOU ACHIEVE IN THE NEXT FIVE TO 10 YEARS? UM, THE REINVESTMENT FUND WILL, WILL PRESENT ON THE MARKET VALUE ANALYSIS.

SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT WHERE SOME OF THESE, UM, STRATEGIES SHOULD BE FOCUSED, AND THEN PERFORMANCE METRICS, HOW DO WE REALLY TRACK SUCCESS, UM, SO THAT WE CAN SUNSET SOME PROGRAMS OR CONTINUE TO INVEST IN THE PROGRAMS THAT ARE REALLY SUCCESSFULLY ADDRESSING YOUR HOUSING NEEDS.

UM, SO I CAN KEEP THIS UP HERE, BUT I JUST WANTED TO GO TO THE FINAL SLIDE, WHICH IS DISCUSSION BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO THE HOUS, THE, UM, CITY MANAGER, WHAT HOUSING STRATEGIES SHOULD BE PRIORITIZED BASED ON WHAT YOU'VE HEARD TONIGHT? OKAY.

UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH MAUREEN.

UH, COUNSEL, I WANNA JUST DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO, UM, A HANDOUT THAT MAUREEN'S PREPARED FOR YOU.

UM, YOU, SHE WENT THROUGH SEVERAL, UH, KEY FINDINGS AND KEY TAKEAWAYS AS, UH, SHE WENT THROUGH THE DIFFERENT DATA POINTS.

AND SO SHE SUMMARIZED ALL THIS ON ONE PAGE, SO THAT AS YOU THINK ABOUT, UH, AND YOU LOOK BACK TO THE, THE SLIDE THAT'S ON THE SCREEN NOW, SLIDE 40 WITH THE, UM, DIFFERENT POTENTIAL STRATEGIES YOU CAN KIND OF KEEP THESE IN MIND AS YOU PROVIDE THE FEEDBACK TO US.

UM, ARE ALL OF THESE SOMETHING YOU WANNA EXPLORE OR SOME OF THEM, UH, DO YOU HAVE PRIORITIES, UH, THAT YOU WANT US TO REALLY DIVE DEEPER INTO? UH, OR IF, UH, YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MAUREEN OR STAFF WITH RESPECT TO, UM, WHY THESE WERE, UH, THE STRATEGIES

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THAT WERE RECOMMENDED? COUNCIL MEMBER CORCORAN, UH, THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.

I'M REALLY, REALLY HAPPY THAT WE'VE DONE THIS ASSESSMENT.

I WANT TO THANK, JUST BEFORE I ASK MY QUESTIONS, JUST WANNA THANK STAFF.

I WANNA THANK YOU REEN, FOR JUST REALLY, UH, TAKING THE TIME TO DO YOUR DUE DILIGENCE ON THIS.

AND I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THE DISCUSSION THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO HAVE.

AND I, I THINK BEFORE I REALLY TALK ABOUT MAYBE WHERE, WHERE I FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO FOCUS, UM, YEAH, I WANTED TO JUST ASK A COUPLE SORT OF MORE MACRO LEVEL QUESTIONS THAT WOULD HELP CLEAR MY HEAD.

ONE, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WITH, WE TALK ABOUT LIKE NOAH HOUSING AND SOMETHING THAT AS, UH, YOU PRESENTED AND AS I WAS READING THIS EARLIER, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IS IT, IS IT A, A SHOULD IT BE A CONSIDERATION OR A GOAL THAT SORT OF ONE DAY WE GET TO, UM, A LOT OF NOAH HOUSING NATURALLY, AND I MEAN THAT IN A WAY WHERE IT'S NOT, NOT MAYBE NO HOUSING IN THE WAY THAT YOU'VE DESCRIBED WHERE IT'S LOWER, I GUESS EITHER LIKE LOWER RENT OR LOWER MORTGAGE BECAUSE IT'S SO RUN DOWN, BUT JUST THAT IS THE WAY IT IS NATURALLY FOR OUR CITY, RIGHT? DOES THAT, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE OR THAT QUESTION AT ALL, OR NOT REALLY? YEAH, I THINK YOU, YOU ALREADY HAVE A LOT OF THAT.

WE, WE'VE HAD SOME INTERESTING DISCUSSIONS AS A TEAM THAT BECAUSE YOUR CODE ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM IS SO STRONG MM-HMM .

YOUR, YOUR NOAA HOUSING IS IN PRETTY GOOD CONDITION, RIGHT? THAT'S WHY THERE ISN'T A RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU NEED TO HAVE AN ENHANCED CODE ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM OKAY.

BECAUSE YOUR CODE ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM IS ALREADY DOING A GOOD JOB.

THE PROBLEM IS, IS THAT YOU'RE SEEING YOUR RENTAL VACANCY RATES DECLINE, THAT THAT'S MORE AND MORE OF AN OPPORTUNITY FOR AN INVESTOR TO SAY, I'M GONNA BUY ONE OF THESE NOAA PROPERTIES I'M GONNA PUT INVESTMENT IN AND I'M GONNA RAISE THE RENTS BECAUSE I SEE THAT PEOPLE WANNA MOVE INTO RICHARDSON.

I SEE THAT THE VACANCY RATES ARE DROPPING, AND SO I'M GONNA MAKE THAT INVESTMENT MM-HMM .

FOR SOME THINGS YOU WANT THAT TO HAPPEN, BUT YOU DON'T WANT IT TO HAPPEN TO ALL OF YOUR NOAA HOUSING, ESPECIALLY SINCE YOU DON'T HAVE ANY SUBSIDIZED HOUSING, BECAUSE THEN YOU JUST DON'T HAVE ANY OPPORTUNITIES FOR LOWER AND MODERATE INCOME FAMILIES.

SO I GUESS LIKE TO WHAT EXTENT ARE THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE IN HERE, UM, AND SPECIFIC TO RICHARDSON, I MEAN, TO WHAT EXTENT ARE WE FIGHTING AGAINST SORT OF BROADER FORCES IN THE DFW NORTH TEXAS AREA VERSUS TACKLING THINGS THAT WE CAN CONTROL? I MEAN, SO, YOU KNOW, I, A LOT OF THESE SEEM AND PROBABLY RIGHTFULLY SO SEEM LIKE STRATEGIES WHERE IT'S LIKE, HEY, WE, THE REGIONAL AREA HOUSING COSTS ARE JUST RISING SO FAST THAT WE HAVE TO TACKLE IT BY HAVING SOME SORT OF PUBLIC, PRIVATE OR PUBLIC SORT OF PARTNERSHIP TO HELP SUBSIDIZE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER HOUSING COSTS.

AND IS THERE ANY COMBINATION OF STRATEGIES HERE THAT GETS US TO A POINT WHERE WE, YOU KNOW, IN A COUPLE DECADES CAN MAYBE TRANSITION OUT OF THAT AND JUST NOT FIGHT THE MARKET FORCES? DO YOU, DOES THAT QUESTION MAKE SENSE AT ALL TOO? I WANNA MAKE SURE THIS IS AN AREA THAT I'M NOT USED TO TALKING ABOUT, SO NO, WE, WE ANTICIPATED THAT SO NO WORRIES.

SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT, UM, MARKET FORCES, THE ONLY WAY THAT YOU REALLY KIND OF BE ABLE TO EXEMPT YOUR, YOUR HOUSING FROM MARKET FORCES ARE THROUGH SUBSIDIZED HOUSING, OKAY? WHERE THE, THE RENTS ARE, ARE LIMITED, THE RENTS ARE ALLOWED TO GROW, BUT THEY'RE NOT JUST SUBJECT TO THE WHIMS OF THE MARKET OR YOUR COMMUNITY.

LAND TRUST, UM, OPERATES SIMILARLY IN THE SENSE THAT ANY HOMES THAT ARE IN YOUR COMMUNITY LAND TRUST, THERE'S A, UM, THERE'S A, A CAP ON THE APPRECIATION THAT THE HOMES, UM, COULD BE SOLD FOR MM-HMM .

SO YOU KIND OF EXEMPT THOSE, YOU TAKE THOSE HOMES OUT OF THE, THE PRIVATE MARKET.

UM, SO THOSE ARE TWO, TWO WAYS TO JUST HOW COULD WE REALLY HAVE OUR HOUSING STOCK, UM, REMAIN WELL MAINTAINED AND AFFORDABLE.

UM, I THINK THE OTHER THING TOO IS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STAFF.

YOUR, YOUR IN INVEST INVESTMENTS IN TRANSIT ALLOW PEOPLE TO LIVE IN OTHER AREAS OF THE METROPLEX AND COMMUTE INTO RICHARDSON.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY WE'RE NOT PROPOSING THAT YOU NEED TO HAVE 3000 MORE UNITS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO LOW AND MODERATE INCOME RENTERS BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER AREAS OF THE METROPLEX THAT THEY COULD LIVE IN AND THEY COULD COMMUTE INTO TO RICHARDSON.

BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU STILL WANNA, IF WE, IF WE HARKEN BACK TO ENVISION RICHARDSON, YOU WANT A DIVERSE DYNAMIC COMMUNITY.

AND SO YOU DO WANNA HAVE HOUSING THAT'S AT A RANGE OF INCOMES, WHICH IS, OR AT A RANGE OF PRICES.

EXCUSE ME.

SO YOU DO WANNA HAVE SOME HOUSING STOCK THAT'S AFFORDABLE TO LOWER AND MODERATE INCOME INDIVIDUALS SO THEY CAN LIVE IN THE CITY, SO THEY CAN GO TO YOUR SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

TWO EXAMPLES OF HOW, UM, YOU CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF WHAT'S AVAILABLE IN THE REGION, UM, BUT THEN ALSO TRY TO CREATE THE HOUSING THAT CAN REMAIN AFFORDABLE IN THE CITY.

SO THOSE ARE KIND OF TWO,

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MAUREEN, IF I, IF I MIGHT JOE, SO, UH, WITH RESPECT TO, TO THE NOAA HOUSING, UM, SO A COUPLE OF THINGS.

UM, WE HAVE ARTIFICIALLY THROUGH, UH, A STRONG, STRONG CODE ENFORCEMENT, UM, PROGRAM, WE HAVE ARTIFICIALLY KEPT SOME OF THAT HOUSING, UM, OPERATIONAL WHERE IN OTHER COMMUNITIES IT WOULD'VE FALLEN OFF AND, UM, AND IT WOULD'VE, UM, DEVALUED SO MUCH SOMEONE COULD HAVE COME IN AND PURCHASED IT, RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT MAUREEN, AND WE'VE HAD THAT CONVERSATION.

WE KNOW THAT'S TRUE.

WE KNOW THAT'S TRUE IN THE BOWSER AREA.

WE KNOW THAT'S TRUE IN THE SPRING VALLEY AREA.

I THINK WHAT IS A IS A BIG RISK FOR US IS EVEN THOUGH WE WERE ABLE TO DO THAT THROUGH CODE ENFORCEMENT, THAT HOUSING, THERE'S ONLY, EVEN WITH STRONG CODE ENFORCEMENT, THERE'S A, UH, ONLY A A A, THERE'S, THERE'S A LIFESPAN TO THE HOUSING REGARDLESS OF HOW MUCH CODE ENFORCEMENT WE DO.

AND I THINK ABOUT BIO, I, I, I AT ONE TIME, UM, WAS AN INSPECTOR FOR THE APARTMENT.

I KNOW THE SYSTEMS THEY HAVE, THERE'S 60 TO 65 YEARS OLD.

UH, YOU THINK ABOUT THE NEW ORLEANS APARTMENTS ON, ON WATERVIEW, THESE SYSTEMS ARE NOT SUSTAINABLE INTO 70 OR 80 YEARS.

AND SO THERE WILL COME A TIPPING POINT, EVEN THOUGH IT WON'T BE ANYTHING THAT WE DO, BUT THEY'LL, THEY'LL BECOME A TIPPING POINT WHERE THE COST OF MAINTENANCE OR IF IT'S EVEN MAINTAINABLE, WILL, UM, CHANGE THE, THE DYNAMIC.

AND THAT IS WHEN THOSE PROPERTIES WILL BE BOUGHT AND THEY'LL BE REDEVELOPED INTO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

AND SO THAT HOUSING IS GOING TO INEVITABLY TURN OVER.

UM, AND, UM, AND I THINK YOU'RE GONNA FIRST SEE THAT IN THE BOWSER BECAUSE OF THE AGE AND THE TYPES OF SYSTEMS THAT ARE IN THOSE BUILDINGS, BUT IT'S GONNA SLOWLY HAPPEN ON, ON SPRING VALLEY AS WELL.

UM, MY LAST THANK YOU, DAWN.

AND MY LAST QUESTION THEN, I'M, I'M DONE, MAYOR.

UM, IS IT, IS IT A FAIR STATEMENT TO SAY THAT THESE STRATEGIES REALLY WORK MOST EFFECTIVELY WHEN THEY'RE HAND IN HAND WITH SOME OF OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN STRATEGIES AROUND HOW WE'RE DOING HOUSING THERE AND OPENING OURSELVES UP TO MORE NON-TRADITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING, SAY TOWN HOMES OR DUPLEXES? I, I THINK SO.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S, I I CAN'T THINK OF A SCENARIO AND IF, IF ANYONE CAN PLEASE TELL ME, I CAN'T THINK OF A SCENARIO WHERE IN RICHARDSON, TEXAS, THE MATH IS GONNA WORK, THAT YOU CAN EVEN REPLACE A SINGLE FAMILY FOR A SINGLE FAMILY AND MAKE IT AFFORDABLE.

IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE, I'M NOT SAYING IT HAS TO BE A MULTI-FAMILY, I'M JUST GONNA SAY, I'M SAYING IT HA IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE DENSER.

BUT THAT'S TRUE FOR, UM, THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S TRUE FOR EVERY REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT MOVING FORWARD.

RIGHT? I MEAN, IT'S EITHER GONNA, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST TWO SIDES OF A PROFORMA.

IT'S EITHER GONNA HAVE TO BE SUBSIDIZED SO THAT IT COSTS THEM LESS TO BUILD AND OPERATE.

UM, OR THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO CHARGE A HIGHER RENT THAN WHAT WAS THERE.

I MEAN, WE, WE'VE ALL TALKED TO DEVELOPERS, WE KNOW IT'S JUST SIMPLE MATH AND THE PROFORMA.

SO I THINK THAT, I THINK THAT IS ACCURATE.

GREAT.

THANK YOU MAYOR HUTCHEN RIDER.

THANK YOU MAYOR MAUREEN.

I'M A, I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED AND, AND HERE'S WHERE MY CONFUSION COMES IN.

I FEEL LIKE WE USE A COUPLE OF WORDS, OR I'M SORRY, NOT WORDS, A COUPLE OF PHRASES INTERCHANGEABLY.

AND YET WHEN I GO OUT TO OUR CITIZENS, THEY DON'T, AND, AND HERE'S WHERE I'M COMING FROM THAT I HEAR OUR CITIZENS TALK A LOT ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

THEY DON'T TALK LOW INCOME HOUSING.

AND I FEEL LIKE THAT'S WHERE, I MEAN, JUST FROM A PURE DEFINITIONAL STANDPOINT, I FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE ALL UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE SAYING AND WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING.

'CAUSE WHAT I HEAR FROM PEOPLE IS, YOU KNOW, FOR OUR TEACHERS, OUR POLICE, OUR FIREFIGHTERS, OUR PEOPLE THAT ARE MAKING, THEY'RE MAKING, I'M GONNA USE THE WORDS MODERATE INCOMES MAYBE IS THE WORD I SHOULD USE.

THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS BE ABLE TO HAVE HOUSING IN THE CITY OF RICHARDSON.

I'VE NOT HEARD ANYONE THAT I'VE TALKED TO FROM A CITIZENRY SAYING THEY WANT THE TRADITIONAL LOW INCOME HOUSING, YET I HEAR WORDS, THOSE WORDS BEING FLIP FLOPPED.

I'M GONNA SAY IN YOUR PRESENTATION, AND MAYBE THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO SAY, AND I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THE DEFINITION OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

BECAUSE AGAIN, WHEN YOU SAY TO ME, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR A SENIOR, YES, SENIORS ARE, I ALWAYS HEAR THAT TRADITIONALLY MORE FIXED INCOME THAN I HEAR LOW INCOME.

WHICH IS, IS A DIFFERENCE.

SO I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, AND I DON'T KNOW, I, I FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO KIND OF START FROM A DEFINITIONAL STANDPOINT TO MAKE SURE WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE WE ALL SEVEN AGREE.

LEMME JUST SAY, I'M GONNA THROW THAT OUT ON THE TABLE.

I THINK THERE ARE PEOPLE ON THIS DA WHO WOULD LIKE TO GO OUT AND CREATE LOW, PURE, 100% LOW INCOME HOUSING LIKE YOU SEE IN OTHER PARTS

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OF THE METROPLEX.

I THINK, I DON'T KNOW.

WE'LL FIND THAT OUT TONIGHT.

I DON'T HEAR.

THAT'S WHAT OUR CITIZENS OVERALL, THERE MAY BE POCKETS, I'M NOT GONNA SAY I'VE TALKED TO EVERY CITIZEN OF RICHARDSON BY ANY STRETCH OF IMAGINATION, BUT I JUST TRADITIONALLY HEAR PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHICH HOWEVER YOU WANT TO STRATIFY THAT, THAT IS NOT THE SAME THING AS LOW INCOME HOUSING.

SO I'M CONFUSED FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE BECAUSE OF, BECAUSE I FEEL, AND I'M, I DON'T, I'M NOT TRYING TO BE, I'M NOT, PLEASE DON'T TAKE IT AS I'M BEING NEGATIVE.

THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M DOING AT ALL.

OR BEING DEROGATORY TO YOUR PRESENTATION.

I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KNOW WHAT IT IS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

BECAUSE AGAIN, IF I GO TO, IF I GO TO THE SENIOR POPULATION, YES, THEY'RE ON A FIXED INCOME.

THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY ALWAYS MEAN LOW INCOME, IT JUST MEANS FIXED INCOME.

THEY CAN'T, YOU KNOW, IF THEY HAVE THEIR INVESTMENTS OR THEY HAVE THEIR SOCIAL SECURITY OR WHATEVER THE CASE IS, THEIR SOCIAL SECURITY, THERE ARE OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT MAY NOT RISE AT THE SAME, SAME RATE AS INFLATION, BUT THAT'S A, THAT'S DIFFERENT IF YOU WILL, FROM A FIXED INCOME, FIXED INCOME PERSPECTIVE THAN A LOW INCOME PERSPECTIVE.

SO, CAN YOU, CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS THAT YOU'RE, I DON'T WANNA SAY WHAT YOU'RE PRESENTING.

'CAUSE I'VE WATCHED YOUR PRESENTATION FOR ABOUT THE LAST 45 MINUTES, AND SO I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE PRESENTING.

BUT I JUST FEEL LIKE WE'RE, WE'RE NOT DEFINITIONALLY, DEFINITIONALLY, I DUNNO IF THAT'S WORD, THE DEFINITIONS.

I'M NOT SURE WE ALL ARE ON THE SAME PAGE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE DEFINITION.

SO COULD YOU HELP CLARIFY THAT? THAT'S MY OVERARCHING CONCERN.

BECAUSE I DON'T WANNA TALK ABOUT STRATEGIES TILL I KNOW 100% WHAT IT, WHAT THE DEFINITION OF WHEN WE SAY AFFORDABLE HOUSING, IT, IT, I THINK I KNOW WHAT THAT IS IN MY MIND.

AND I THINK AS OF THE CITIZENS THAT I TALK TO, THEY THINK THEY KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS.

BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND FROM A DEFINITION STANDPOINT.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? ABSOLUTELY.

AND I'LL BE ABLE TO MAKE IT SLIGHTLY CLEARER THAN MUD.

, FAIR ENOUGH.

THERE ARE LOTS OF DIFFERENT DEFINITIONS OF, OF LOW INCOME.

BUT FIRST, LET ME, LET ME START FROM, THIS IS BACK IN THE, THE FIFTIES AND THE SIXTIES, THERE WERE VERY POOR DECISIONS THAT WERE MADE ABOUT PUBLIC HOUSING.

UM, YOU KNOW, THAT IS OPERATED BY, UM, A PUBLIC HOUSING AUTHORITY.

UM, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT WAS BARRACK STYLE HOUSING OR, YOU KNOW, TALL TOWERS, UM, AND POVERTY WAS CONCENTRATED, RIGHT.

IT WAS A HUNDRED PERCENT OCCUPIED BY PEOPLE WHO WERE VERY LOW INCOME, USUALLY BELOW THE, THE POVERTY LEVEL.

UM, AND OFTEN IT WASN'T MAINTAINED AND IT WASN'T EVEN BUILT VERY WELL IN THE FIRST PLACE.

SO NONE OF THE STRATEGIES RECOMMEND THAT YOU INVEST IN HOUSING THAT IS IN, THAT WOULD NOT BE BUILT TO MARKET STANDARDS.

RICHARDSON RESIDENCE, WHETHER IT HAS ONE UNIT THAT'S RESERVED AS AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR WHETHER THE WHOLE THING IS, SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO TELL THAT THERE ARE ANY SUBSIDIES OR ANY INCENTIVES PROVIDED TO THE PROJECT BASED ON LOOKING AT IT ON, ON THE OUTSIDE.

DEPENDING ON HOW WE'RE FUNDING IT IMPACTS WHO'S, WHO QUALIFIES TO LIVE IN THE HOUSING.

SO THAT, THAT'S THE FIRST THING IS THAT ANY, ANY HOUSING THAT'S DEVELOPED SHOULD BE HIGH QUALITY, SHOULD LOOK LIKE MARKET RATE HOUSING AND THEN IS WHERE IT GETS A LITTLE MUDDY.

SO DEPENDING ON THE PROGRAM AND THE INCENTIVE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE DEFINITION OF LOW INCOME OR MODERATE INCOME OR WORKFORCE HOUSING CAN CHANGE.

UM, SO FOR EXAMPLE, IN IF YOU USE TIF FUNDING ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING, SO AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS MENTIONED IN YOUR TIF STATUTE, BUT IT'S NOT DEFINED AT ALL.

YOU PROBABLY COULD SERVE FAMILIES THAT ARE UP TO ABOUT 120% OF YOUR MEDIAN INCOME.

SO YOU COULD DEFINITELY SERVE THE, THE TEACHERS AND THE FIREFIGHTERS EVEN IF THEY HAD A, A DUAL INCOME.

SO IT REALLY DEPENDS ON WHAT YOUR FUNDING SOURCE IS, IS HOW AFFORDABLE OR AFFORDABILITY IS DEFINED.

UM, THE SECOND THING I WANNA SAY IS, AGAIN, THOSE BAD DECISIONS THAT WERE MADE IN THE PAST, POVERTY WAS CONCENTRATED, UM, A LOT MORE, UH, HOUSING DEVELOPMENT NOW THAT'S FOCUSED ON AFFORDABILITY IS FOCUSED ON MIXED INCOME HOUSING.

SO YOU HAVE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF UNITS, WE'RE TALKING MAINLY RENTAL HERE.

YOU HAVE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF UNITS THAT ARE RESERVED FOR FAMILIES THAT, THAT, UM, HAVE A LOWER MODERATE INCOME.

AND THE REST OF THE FAMILIES ARE MARKET RATE.

WHY THAT'S REALLY GOOD IS BECAUSE THE MARKET RATE FAMILIES CAN VOTE WITH THEIR FEET.

AND IF YOU'RE NOT MANAGING IT WELL, AND YOU'RE NOT INVESTING IN IT, WELL THEY WILL LEAVE AND THE, AND THE PROPERTY WILL, YOU KNOW, NOT BE SUSTAINABLE.

UM, AND SO I'D RECOMMEND ANY PROJECT THAT YOU WOULD SUPPORT BE MIXED INCOME, UM, IF YOU'RE GONNA SUPPORT AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT THAT HAS SOME KIND OF PUBLIC FUNDING IN IT, WHETHER IT'S THE LOW INCOME HOUSING TAX PRO PROGRAM, OR WHETHER IT'S OTHER CITY INCENTIVES, UM, THAT IT'S MIXED INCOME WHERE YOU HAVE MARKET RATE UNITS AND YOU HAVE SUBSIDIZED UNITS.

UM, SO THAT, SO HAS THAT, HAS THAT HELPED A LOT? SO WE, WE WANNA FOCUS ON HOW DOES IT LOOK AND THEN WHO'S LIVING INSIDE OF IT AND HOW ARE WE FUNDING IT? AND DEPEND,

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SO, SO MAUREEN, AND MAYBE ANOTHER WAY OF SAYING THAT IS THIS ISN'T ABOUT THE, THIS ISN'T ABOUT THE PHYSICAL.

RIGHT? RIGHT.

IT'S NOT ABOUT THE PHYSICAL AT ALL.

IT'S REALLY ABOUT IT TO WHAT EXTENT WE HELP PEOPLE AT DIFFERENT INCOME LEVELS LIVE IN THAT BUILDING.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

SO IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT ABOUT, IT'S NOT EVEN ABOUT THE HOUSING.

IT'S REALLY FOCUSED ON THE INCOME AND LOWER INCOME, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTS WOULD BE, WE WOULD NEED PROGRAMS THAT WOULD OFFER MORE ASSISTANCE, BUT, BUT IT COULD BE SOME, IT, IT COULD BE THE EXACT SAME UNIT OR IT COULD BE THE EXACT SAME TOWNHOUSE THAT SOMEBODY WHO NEEDS NO ASSISTANT LIVES IN IF IT'S MARKET.

AND SO IT'S DEFINITELY NOT ABOUT THE PHYSICAL.

SO IT'S NOT ABOUT, IT'S NOT ABOUT, WE'RE NOT REALLY, THE STRATEGY DON'T NECESSARILY FOCUS ON THE HOUSING.

IT'S MORE FOCUSING ABOUT ON THE PERSON THAT WOULD LIVE IN THE HOUSING.

THE HOUSING IS GONNA BE THE SAME REGARDLESS OF WHETHER SOMEBODY'S PAYING FULL MARKET OR SOMEBODY'S RECEIVING SOME LEVEL OF ASSISTANCE.

AND THIS LEVEL OF ASSISTANCE IS DRIVEN BY THE INCOME.

AND I, AND I GUESS WHAT PEOPLE CONSTANTLY ASK ME, AND AGAIN, I'M JUST TRYING TO REPRESENT WHAT ABSOLUTELY WHAT I HEAR IS DEFINE FOR ME WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WHEN YOU'RE SAYING LOW INCOME.

DEFINE THAT FOR ME.

HOW, HOW LOW ARE WE GOING TO CONSIDER? BECAUSE WHAT I, AGAIN, I'M JUST TRYING TO REPRESENT HERE TONIGHT.

WHAT I HEAR CONSISTENTLY IS ABOUT KIND OF MORE OF THAT, THAT I'M GONNA CALL IT, I'M GONNA CALL IT MODEST, MAYBE IS A GOOD WORD TO USE.

I DON'T KNOW, WHATEVER WORD YOU WANT TO USE.

UM, YOU KNOW, TEACHERS AND, AND FIREFIGHTERS, POLICE PEOPLE ALONG.

IT'S, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT YOUR TRADITIONAL LOW INCOME.

IE YOU KNOW, VER BELOW POVERTY LEVEL.

WHEN I SPEAK TO PEOPLE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY, THEY'RE SAYING WE WANNA SUPPORT PEOPLE WHO ARE, ARE, ARE, YOU KNOW, UM, GAINFULLY EMPLOYED WHO NEED ASSISTANCE BECAUSE YOU KNOW, AGAIN, FOR ALL THE REASONS YOU TALKED ABOUT, THINGS HAVE GOTTEN, YOU KNOW, WAY UP HERE AND THEIR SALARY IS HERE.

AND SO I I, THAT THAT'S THE DEFINITION, THAT'S THE DEFINITION I'M LOOKING FOR TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT IS, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IF IT'S SOMEBODY WHO'S MAKING, I FORGET WHAT YOUR NUMBER WAS.

WHERE IS THAT? THIS IS 58,000.

WELL, BUT JUST, JUST AS A POINT OF GO, THAT'S UP TO, THAT'S UP TO THE COUNCIL.

I KNOW.

AND THAT'S TRYING, BUT I'M, WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS WE NEED, I THINK WE NEED TO DECIDE THAT DEFINITION THAT BEFORE WE GET INTO SOME OF THESE DISCUSSIONS, I GUESS THAT'S WHERE I'M COMING FROM.

THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IS, IS THERE A PERCENTAGE OF A MI THAT'S NORMALLY CONSIDERED LOW INCOME VERSUS SOME OTHER VERSION OF INCOME? SO MOST HUD PROGRAMS, UM, INCLUDING ALSO THE LOW INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDIT PROGRAM IS GONNA PUT 80% OF A MI IS CONSIDERED LOW INCOME, WHICH IS A FAIRLY HIGH INCOME.

THIS, THIS FAMILY WHO'S EARNING 50% OF AREA MEDIAN INCOME WOULD BE CONSIDERED VERY LOW INCOME.

AND JUST TO SET THE CONTEXT, A STARTING RICHARDSON TEACHER, UH, STARTS AT 57,000.

SO IF THAT TEACHER HAS A SPOUSE WHO'S NOT WORKING, THEY WANNA BE ABLE TO NOT HAVE TO PAY FOR DAYCARE.

AND THEY HAVE TWO KIDS THAT TEACHER AND THEIR SPOUSE AND THEIR TWO KIDS ARE CONSIDERED VERY LOW INCOME.

AND SO THEY WOULD QUALIFY TO LIVE IN WHAT'S TRADITIONALLY CONSIDERED AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNIT.

UM, BUT LIKE, UM, LIKE THE CITY MANAGER AND THE MAYOR SAID IT, YOU CAN DECIDE MM-HMM .

WHAT YOU WANT TO FOCUS ON.

AND THEN THAT NARROWS SOME OF THE STRATEGIES AND SOME OF THE FUNDING SOURCES.

RIGHT? YEAH.

IF YOU SAID ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING, THEN WE CAN SAY THERE'S ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT TOOLS TO INCENTIVIZE HOUSING THAT, THAT SERVES EVEN THE LOWEST INCOME.

WE HAVEN'T EVEN TALKED ABOUT HOUSING VOUCHERS.

IF YOU WANNA TARGET MORE OF THE, THE, WHAT WE WOULD CONSIDER MAYBE MIDDLE INCOME, EVEN THOUGH HUD MIGHT CALL THIS, UM, VERY LOW INCOME, THEN THAT JUST HELPS US GUIDE YOU ON WHAT STRATEGIES, UM, TO FOCUS ON.

AND, AND JUST FOR SLIGHT BIT MORE CLARIFICATION, THERE, A MI IT DOESN'T REALLY TAKE INTO ACCOUNT HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE IN THE HOME.

NO, IT DOES, IT DOES.

SO MEDIUM.

SO, SO IF IT'S JUST ONE PERSON IN THE HOME, RIGHT? MM-HMM .

IT'S A SINGLE, SINGLE MALE OR FEMALE THAT LIVES BY THEMSELVES AND, AND, UH, AND THEY MAKE THE 58,000, THE NEW TEACHER YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, IS THAT A MI STILL DO THEY, ARE THEY STILL CONSIDERED 58,000 AND THEREFORE 50% OF A MI? 'CAUSE THAT'S THEIR HOUSEHOLD UNITS.

NO.

SO, UM, AREA MEDIAN INCOME AND MANY OF THE HUD PROGRAMS DO LOOK AT HOUSEHOLD SIZE MM-HMM .

SO IF THAT WAS A SINGLE TEACHER BY THEMSELVES, THEY WOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED LOW INCOME.

THEY WOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED 50% OF A MI AT 58,000.

I JUST WANTED THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE A HOUSEHOLD SIZE OF ONE.

SO THERE'S DIFFERENT INCOME LIMITS THAT ARE RELATED TO A HOUSEHOLD SIZE OF ONE.

PERFECT.

WE'LL JUST NO, I KEEP GOING AROUND.

THAT'S HELPFUL.

IS THAT GOOD ENOUGH? JUST FOR NOW WE, FOR NOW WE COME RIGHT BACK AROUND FOR, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, AND EACH OF US, WE CAN, WE CAN TAKE MULTIPLE TURNS WITH THIS.

SO DON'T FEEL LIKE IF YOU DON'T GET IT ALL ANSWERED IN YOUR FIRST TRIAL,

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I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE HAVE IT.

WHATEVER DEFINITION WE'RE LOOKING AT.

COUNCIL MEMBER BARRIOS.

I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS BEFORE I START GETTING INTO THOUGHTS AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.

UM, SLIDE 21, WHEN YOU'RE DISCUSSING, UH, COST BURDEN, OOPS.

IS THAT INCLUSIVE OF UTILITIES? BECAUSE I DON'T REMEMBER YOU SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED THAT, BUT I DO KNOW THERE WAS ANOTHER SIDE THAT THE NUMBERS INCLUDED UTILITIES.

SO THAT, DO WE ALWAYS TALK UTILITIES AS PART OF, UM, WHEN WE LOOK AT COST, YES.

WE LOOK AT, WE LOOK AT YOUR MORTGAGE OR YOUR RENTAL PAYMENT, PROPERTY TAXES, HOA AND UTILITIES IN TERMS OF COST BURDEN.

ALRIGHT, NEXT QUESTION.

UM, SLIDE 30 PLEASE.

WE WERE DISCUSSING, I BELIEVE THE, UM, OH, THE MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING.

WHEN THIS, AND PRE THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL, I KNOW SINCE I'VE BEEN ON FOR, UM, I GUESS TWO AND A HALF YEARS NOW, WHEN WE'VE DISCUSSED MIDDLE HOUSING, IT'S USUALLY AROUND ZONING.

SO WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING, LIKE WHEN WE LOOK AT IT ZONING, WE'VE LOOKED AT TOWN HOMES AND STUFF, STUFF LIKE THAT.

BUT THEN GOING BACK AND REMEMBERING SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE COSTS OR, OR THE, UH, SALE RATE OR WHAT THEY WERE SELLING FOR, WE'RE LOOKING AT 20 TO 30% ABOVE MEDIUM HOUSE FOR THESE TOWN HOMES.

SO HOW DO YOU DEFINE THAT MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING? IS THAT ACCORDING TO THE PLAN WE HAD WHERE WE WERE MISSING CERTAIN HOUSING TYPES? OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT MIDDLE PRICING HOUSING? CAN YOU KIND OF TALK ON THAT? YES.

HOW DO YOU KEEP, I GUESS, THAT MISS OMITTING HOUSING FROM GOING ABOVE WHAT THE AVERAGE RATE IS? SO THAT'S ACTUAL RIGHT? ABSOLUTELY.

SO, UM, THIS HOUSING STRATEGY IS NOT FOCUSED EXCLUSIVELY ON AFFORDABILITY, RIGHT? IT'S MAKING SURE THAT YOU HAVE A HOUSING STOCK THAT MEETS THE DEMANDS AND THE NEEDS OF, OF HOUSEHOLDS.

AND SO, PART OF THE REASON WHY MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING IS SUGGESTED, AND IT IS BASED ON THE DEFINITIONS THAT YOU USE IN IN INVIS ENVISION RICHARDSON, IS IT DOES PROVIDE A SMALLER HOUSING FOOTPRINT FOR ME, PEOPLE THAT MAY BE ABLE TO AFFORD IT, BUT WANT A SMALLER HOME, RIGHT? SO YOUR, YOUR SENIORS COULD, COULD MOVE INTO IT.

UM, BUT YOU'RE CORRECT THAT TOWN HOMES IN A, IN A HOT MARKET LIKE RICHARDSON, JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE TOWN HOMES, JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE SMALLER DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY'RE SOLD IN A, AT AFFORDABLE PURCHASE PRICE.

AND SO IF YOU WERE FOCUSED ON AFFORDABILITY, YOU WOULD HAVE TO LAYER ON SOME KIND OF INCENTIVES THAT WOULD, UM, WOULD LEAD THE, THE BUILDER TO SELL IT AT A A LOWER PRICE.

BUT MISSING MIDDLE IN AND OF ITSELF DOES NOT EQUATE TO AFFORDABILITY.

I'M GONNA RESERVE MOST OF MY COMMENTS AND COME BACK.

I DO WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR EXPLANATION TO, UH, MAYOR PRO TEMS, UH, COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS.

I, UM, I, I, FIRST OF ALL, I THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT EXPLANATION MM-HMM .

AS SOMEBODY WHO WAS RAISED IN SECTION EIGHT HOUSING MM-HMM .

I, I KNOW THE OPPORTUNITY THAT PROVIDES AND I ALSO UNDERSTAND PEOPLE'S CONCERNS.

UH, AS SOMEBODY WHO GREW UP IN AN AREA THAT WAS HIGH, UH, POVERTY CONCENTRATION MM-HMM .

AND I APPRECIATE THAT THAT APPROACH OF THE MIXED PRICING BRINGS TO THE DIGNITY OF THOSE THAT LIVE IN THOSE AREAS AS WELL.

ABSOLUTELY.

I THINK IT'S A, I'M GLAD THAT THE MARKET HAS SWITCHED TOWARDS THAT APPROACH, BUT I'LL, UM, I'LL COME BACK LATER.

AWESOME.

COUNCIL MEMBER DOYEN.

COMPLEX, UH, 10% OF THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE GEARED TOWARD MIDDLE INCOME OR AFFORDABLE, WE'LL CALL IT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

I, UM, WANTED TO TAG ON, UH, TO A COUPLE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN SAID AND, AND ALSO GIVE OBSERVATION.

UM, YOU KNOW, THE CLARIFICATION BETWEEN AFFORDABLE HOUSING, LOW INCOME HOUSING, AND WORKFORCE HOUSING, TO ME HAVE THREE DIFFERENT DEFINITIONS.

AND I'M NOT GONNA RECAP ON WHAT WE JUST DISCUSSED, BUT LIKE, WE KIND OF ANALYZED THAT A LITTLE BIT.

SOME OF THE THINGS THAT, UM, THAT PART OF OUR NEW ENVISION, UM, TO CREATE THIS MIDDLE HOUSING, UM, VORTEX, WE'LL CALL IT.

UH, AND, AND BEING IN A LANDLOCKED CITY, RIGHT THERE IS RICHARDSON DOESN'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A SPECIFIC AREA LIKE A HOUSTON DOES, WHERE WE WOULD HAVE A, UH, FIFTH WARD OR THIRD WARD.

UH, AND WE HAVE A CLUSTER OF LOW INCOME OR POTENTIALLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

UM, I, THE DIRECTION OF MOVING FORWARD WITH DUPLEXES, FOURPLEXES, UM, BUNGALOW STYLE OR MULTIM MIXED HOMES, I THINK IS SOMETHING THAT'S INTEGRATABLE, UH, WITH OUR CURRENT, UH, FOOTPRINT, OUR CURRENT STRUCTURE, I THINK A LOT OF THE REVITALIZATION REFURBISHING, UM, THE REDEVELOPMENT OR EVEN NEW DEVELOPMENT POTENTIALLY HAS OPPORTUNITY FOR INVESTORS COMING IN.

UH, POTENTIALLY THAT COULD, LET'S JUST SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE'RE TALKING STRATEGY, A DEVELOPER COULD COME IN AND LET'S SAY 10% OF A NEW CONSTRUCTION, LET'S SAY AN APARTMENT COMPLEX OR A MIXED USE

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UH, WHICH COULD CONSIST OF ANYTHING FROM A STUDIO APARTMENT, A ONE BEDROOM, UH, POTENTIALLY INTEGRATING IT IN WITH ALL CULTURES IN ALL SOCIETY, BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BE VERY DIFFICULT TO COME IN AND GO, HEY, I'M GONNA PURCHASE THAT 12 ACRES OVER THERE AND I'M GONNA TURN THAT ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT INTO LOW INCOME HOUSING.

FIRST OF ALL, I'M NOT QUITE SURE IF THE COMMUNITY WOULD APPRECIATE THAT, ESPECIALLY WE HAD PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE AND RICHARD SAID, WANT TO MOVE HERE FOR, AND LIVE IN AN ELEVATED ENVIRONMENT, BUT IN ORDER FOR PEOPLE TO LIVE HERE THAT CAN NEED TO AFFORD IT, LIKE YOUR TEACHERS, YOUR FIREFIGHTERS, YOUR, YOUR, YOUR POLICE OFFICERS, THEY NEED TO BE INTEGRATED INTO ALREADY AN EXISTING, OR WHAT I CONSIDER MORE ELEVATED, UH, STRUCTURE.

AND WITH REDEVELOPMENT, WHETHER IT BE OFFICE BUILDINGS OR REDEVELOPMENT OF EXISTING TYPE BUILDINGS, THERE'S OPPORTUNITY THERE TO CREATE THOSE SINGLE AND TWO LEVEL STUDIOS THAT WOULD ALLOW EVEN SENIORS TO INTEGRATE IN.

SO NOW YOU'RE, NOW YOU'RE CREATING A COLLABORATION OF A MULTITUDE OF CULTURES, A MULTITUDE OF AGE BRACKETS, AND EVEN SENIORS THAT CAN NOW POTENTIALLY INTEGRATE, YOU KNOW, BACK WHAT, 3, 4, 5 YEARS AGO, THE, THE URBAN DEVELOPMENT WAS, HEY, I'M BUILDING A COMMUNITY.

I'M GONNA HAVE THE LARGER HOME.

UH, THE FAMILY, THE MAIN FAMILY'S GONNA LIVE THERE, BUT MY MOTHER-IN-LAW, OR MY FAM, MY MOTHER'S GONNA LIVE IN A COTTAGE OR A PART OF THE COMMUNITY.

IT'S, IT'S ATTACHED, IT, IT BECOMES A MULTI-GENERATIONAL COMMUNITY.

YES, YOU HAVE MORE PEOPLE LIVING ON THE PROPERTY, BUT IT'S SEG IT'S, IT'S SEGUED INTO, OR SEPARATED INTO SEPARATE AREAS.

SO WITH I, I'M ONLY SAYING THIS OUT LOUD BECAUSE I WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND A, A WORKFORCE HOUSING AND ALSO HOUSING THAT IS POVERTY LEVEL.

SO RIGHT NOW, I THINK IF WE COULD PUT TOGETHER SOME TYPE OF STRATEGY TO ALLOW DEVELOPERS THAT ARE COMING INTO THE CITY POTENTIALLY, UM, AND MAYBE HAVE SOME CRI CRITERIA THERE THAT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO SAY, I'M JUST USING 10% RIGHT NOW, JUST, IT COULD BE ANY NUMBER, BUT TO ALLOW THAT TO HAVE, UH, MORE AFFORDABLE OR MID MIDDLE HOUSING.

UM, I THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT I WOULD CERTAINLY CONSIDER SUPPORTING.

AGAIN, IT INTEGRATES ALL OF THE COMMUNITIES AND ALL OF THE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF, UH, INCOME, UH, INTO EXISTING NEW OR REFURBISHED BUILDINGS.

I MEAN, IS THAT SOMETHING I'VE MISSED IN THE PRESENTATION OR IS, IS THERE AN AREA THAT YOU FEEL LIKE WOULD COVER THAT OR SHOULD COVER THAT? NO, AND I THINK YOU, I THINK YOU POINTED OUT A REALLY GOOD THING.

SO ONE THING WE DIDN'T RECOMMEND IS THERE ARE OTHER CITIES THAT FOR ANY TAX INCREMENT FINANCED, UM, RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT REQUIRE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF THE UNITS TO BE RESERVED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS NOT RECOMMENDING THAT, BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME, YOU KNOW, UH, RENTAL COMMUNITIES YOU MAY WANT TO, UM, SUPPORT THAT ARE LUXURY AND DON'T INCLUDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS.

AND YOU DON'T WANNA PREVENT THAT FROM BEING DEVELOPED IN THE CITY.

BUT YOU HAVE, UM, YOU HAVE FINANCED A NUMBER OF MULTI, OR YOU'VE, YOU'VE PROVIDED FUNDING TO A NUMBER OF MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENTS WHERE MAYBE YOU DIDN'T HAVE ANY REQUIREMENTS RELATED TO ACCESSIBLE UNITS SO THAT SENIORS COULD MOVE INTO THEM, OR YOU DIDN'T PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INCENTIVES SO THAT IF THEY DID WANT TO HAVE SOME AFFORDABLE UNITS, THAT THEY COULD PROVIDE THOSE AFFORDABLE UNITS AND STILL MAKE IT PENCIL WITH THE ADDITIONAL CITY INCENTIVES.

AND SO THAT'S WHERE THE STRATEGY IS GETTING IS LET'S FIND WAYS TO USE CARROTS TO CONTINUE TO HAVE RICHARDSON TO BE A DIVERSE DYNAMIC COMMUNITY, BUT NOT STIFLE ANY REDEVELOPMENT OR DEVELOPMENT THROUGH, THROUGH STICKS.

AND, AND THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

AND, AND, AND, AND THE MAIN THING IS, IS NOT NECESSARILY ON THE TOWN HOME COMMUNITY.

'CAUSE IT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT TOWN HOME COMMUNITIES.

WELL, OBVIOUSLY IF WE'RE BUILDING A TOWN HOME COMMUNITY, YOU'RE, YOU'RE CONSIDERING THAT GONNA BE A MORE ELEVATED, UH, PRICE POINT ANYWAY.

AND I'M NOT EVEN RECOMMENDING TO USE THAT AS A MODEL TO INFILTRATE THAT, THAT TYPE OF STRUCTURE.

BUT I AM SAYING, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, UH, MULTIFAMILY OR MIXED USE OR APARTMENT COMPLEXES OR POTENTIALLY FOUR PLEXES DUPLEXES, UH, AND OTHER THINGS THAT ARE, ARE MORE GEARED AND REALLY MORE DESIGNED FOR THAT, POTENTIALLY HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY.

OTHERWISE, WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO, WHERE ARE WE GONNA PUT PRESSURE ON DEVELOPING THAT? OTHERWISE, I MEAN, WE'D HAVE TO CREATE A COMMUNITY.

I MEAN, WE'D HAVE TO CREATE A SECTION OR A COMMUNITY.

THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY FOR RIGHT NOW.

ME, I THINK, UH, IT'S IMPORTANT FOR ME.

COUNCIL MEMBER FIN.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMPLICATED PRESENTATION.

UH, AT LEAST FOR

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I MEAN, I CAN SPEAK FOR MYSELF THAT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW ALL THE TOOLS AVAILABLE WITH DETAILED PROS AND CONS, UNDERSTAND EXACTLY HOW THINGS GOES.

UH, IN THE PAST WE HAD FEW DISCUSSION THAT IT'S NOT, THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME WE HAVE DISCUSSED THIS.

WE HAVE DISCUSSED THE ISSUE IN THE PAST, BUT DIFFERENT WAY SOMETIMES THOSE CAME, IT PRETTY MUCH GUARANTEED DISPROPORTIONATELY TO THE INVESTOR, THE PROFITABILITY UPFRONT VERSUS HELPING FAMILY.

SO, AND UNFORTUNATELY IN A OPEN MARKET THAT WHAT WE HAVE HERE IN THIS COUNTRY, THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT IT IS.

BASICALLY, IT GUARANTEE THE INVESTORS.

AND, AND AFTER THAT, IT DOESN'T MATTER FOR THE INVESTOR, THEY'LL MOVE ON TO ANOTHER PROJECTS AND START ANOTHER ONE.

UH, SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT CHARON NEED, WHAT CAN WE DO, HOW MUCH WE CAN DO, BECAUSE WE HAVE LIMITED LAND.

WE'RE A SMALL CITY.

UH, CAN WE CONTROL THE MARKET? ABSOLUTELY NOT.

WE ARE VERY SMALL AND, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES YOU CAN THINK ABOUT SUBSIDIZING SOMEONE TO BUY A HOUSE.

IF THERE IS HOUSE THAT, OKAY, NOBODY'S BUYING, WE HAVE PLENTY OF SUPPLY.

SO, SO EVEN THOUGH THAT PEOPLE ARE LEFT OUT, THEY CAN'T BUY HOUSE, BUT PEOPLE ARE BUYING THE HOUSE, THERE IS NO HOUSE HERE.

SO IT'S LIKE, THERE IS STILL SO MUCH HIGH DEMAND.

SO UNTIL YOU, YOU BALANCE THAT THING NATURALLY, THEN YOU CAN INTERVENE AND DO SOMETHING.

I MEAN, I HATE TO SAY THAT, BUT MY FEELINGS IS THAT OUR HOUSE PRICE IS GONNA GO UP AND PEOPLE WILL LOVE IT.

SOME PEOPLE WILL COMPLAIN IT, BUT STILL THEY WOULD LOVE IT.

AND, AND, YOU KNOW, OUR FOCUS SHOULD BE HOW WE CAN INCREASE THE SUPPLY, MAKE IT MORE SMALLER, AND DEFINITELY NOT CODE ENFORCEMENT IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD, UH, WE SHOULD TRY TO NOT ENFORCE.

WE SHOULD DO IT.

OTHERWISE, THE BUSINESS THAT THEY'RE COMING MICRON AT T THEY WOULD NOT BE COMING TOMORROW.

I MEAN, IF YOU THINK ABOUT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GONNA DO THAT.

LET THIS THING FALL APART.

IT'S PRETTY RISKY TALKS, AT LEAST MY OPINION.

SO, BUT YOU KNOW, LIKE, YOU KNOW, INCREASING, INCREASING THE SUPPLY AND LOOK FOR AN OPTION, HOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE TOOLS AVAILABLE AND WHAT WE CAN DO.

VERY MINDFUL THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE TRYING TO HELP ACTUALLY THE PEOPLE NOT, YOU KNOW, THE INVESTOR, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LOVE TO HELP THE INVESTOR.

I DON'T HAVE PROBLEM WITH THAT, BUT IF, IF THE PEOPLE REALLY GET THE BENEFIT FIRST.

SO ANY TAX MONEY SHOULD BE CONSIDERED, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO LOOK THAT WAY.

UH, SO I'M, I'M REALLY, I'M INTERESTED TO LOOK ALL THE OPTION, MORE DETAIL, UH, AND THEN SEE HOW WE CAN INCREASE SUPPLY.

AND THEN, UH, AND DO, I MEAN, THE FORCE THAT'S COMING, I SEE THIS AREA, WE CAN TRY CONTROLLING THIS, BUT I'VE SEEN SOME PLACES IN THE WORLD THAT IT'LL TAKE OVER SLOWLY BECAUSE WHEN THAT DEMAND IS THERE, PEOPLE NEED HOUSING, IT'LL BE OUT HERE.

I MEAN, WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO IT CAREFULLY PLANNED WAY AND WE ACCEPT CHANGE THAT IS BENEFICIAL TO OUR COMMUNITY.

I'M VERY MUCH OPEN-MINDED TO HEAR A LOT MORE AND UNDERSTAND AND KNOW MORE.

BUT AGAIN, AFFORDABILITY, THAT'S, THAT'S THE QUESTION.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING LIKE, IF EVERYBODY MAKES OVER $200,000, I'LL BE VERY HAPPY TO SEE THAT.

UH, BUT STILL, YOU KNOW, HOUSING COULD BE AN ISSUE.

AFFORDABILITY ISSUE.

SO LET'S SEE IF, YOU KNOW, I'M, YOU KNOW, I'M LISTENING AND LEARNING.

COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE.

UH, THANK YOU.

UM, I THINK A LOT OF WHAT I'VE HEARD IS THAT FOLKS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT CONCENTRATION OF ANY OF THIS.

UM, THAT WAS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I WROTE DOWN, IS MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S STRATEGIES, UM, FOR, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE POINT THAT COUNCILMAN BARRIOS MADE ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S DIGNITY IN THE PROCESS FOR SOMEONE WHO MAY NEED, UM, UH, WHETHER IT'S LOW INCOME OR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

I THINK WHAT'S IMPORTANT FROM MY PERSPECTIVE IS THAT I DON'T, WE DO NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE DEFINITION IS AS, AS WAS STATED.

BECAUSE FOR ME, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN GO ON OUR CITY'S WEBSITE AND WE HAVE FLEET JOBS POSTED, WE HAVE WATER SYSTEM OPERATOR JOB THAT ARE POSTED.

WE HAVE, UM, TRASH COLLECTOR DRIVER LOADERS THAT ARE POSTED WHO ALL FALL BELOW THAT 50% LINE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.

OF THOSE ARE ACTUALLY ECONOMICALLY VIABLE, SORT OF GIVEN THE STATE OF PLAY WITH, YOU KNOW, PROPERTY TAX CAP AND, YOU KNOW, TRENDS AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.

I THINK THAT, THAT, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I WOULD WANNA FIGURE OUT STRATEGIES THAT ALSO ALLOWED THEM TO LIVE IN RICHARDSON OR THAT THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEM TO LIVE IN RICHARDSON.

UM, YOU KNOW, AND AGAIN, AGAIN, FOR ME, WHATEVER STRATEGY WE COME UP WITH, IT HAS TO BE A STRATEGY THAT'S SPREAD ACROSS THE CITY, AND IT'S NOT CONCENTRATED IN ANY WAY.

UM, AND SO ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAVE LOOKING AT ALL THIS, AND IT MIGHT BE A CHICKEN AND EGG QUESTION, BUT I'M SORT OF CURIOUS ABOUT THE STRATEGIES THAT YOU'VE PROPOSED AS OPTIONS TONIGHT.

WHICH

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ARE THERE, I KNOW SOME OF THIS IS PUBLIC PRIVATE, BUT ARE ANY OF THESE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE LOOK AT THEM AND WE SAY, THAT SOUNDS NICE, BUT THERE'S REALLY NO WAY THAT AS A CITY WE ARE GONNA BE ABLE TO CONTRIBUTE, UM, TO THESE.

AND SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT THEM, BUT THE REALITY IS WE CAN'T AFFORD THEM.

IS ARE, ARE THERE ANY OF THOSE ON THIS LIST THAT, THAT WE COULD EASILY JUST ELIMINATE SORT OF KNOWING WHAT BUDGET CONSTRAINTS ARE AT AT THIS MOMENT? SO I MAY, YOU KNOW, DONNA AND I HAVE, HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT WE, WE WERE VERY DILIGENT TO NOT PROPOSE SOMETHING THAT REQUIRED EITHER A HUNDRED PERCENT INVESTMENT FROM, FROM THE CITY OR, OR A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT FROM THE CITY.

UM, I MEAN, I THINK IF YOU TRIED TO DO EVERY ONE OF THESE STRATEGIES IN YEAR ONE, IT WOULD NOT BE ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE.

AND SO THAT'S WHY UNDERSTANDING WHAT YOUR PRIORITIES ARE WOULD HELP US, WILL HELP US PHASE, UM, EACH OF THESE.

BUT I MEAN, IN TERMS OF, UM, REALLY NO COST TO THE CITY, YOUR HOME, HAVING A HOME REPAIR PROGRAM AND, AND TAKING CDBG, UM, AND THEN REALLY THE HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION, PUBLIC FACILITY CORPORATION, UM, YOU COULD CHARGE FEES FOR DEVELOPERS APPLYING TO HAVE THAT PARTNERSHIP.

AND THEN, LIKE I MENTIONED, ONCE YOU DO HAVE A SUCCESSFUL PROJECT, THERE IS INCOME THAT COMES IN.

AND SO THOSE ARE TWO THINGS THAT REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY KIND OF A, A, A INITIAL REVENUE IMPACT, ALTHOUGH WITH A HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION OR A PUBLIC FACILITY CORPORATION, THERE IS THAT LAND IS TAX EXEMPT.

SO IF THERE HAD BEEN SOME REVENUE GENERATED, IF IT WASN'T A VACANT LOT, THAT THERE WOULD HAVE SOME KIND OF INCOME YEAH.

IMPACT.

NO, NO, IT'S, IT'S WELL SAID.

SO, YOU KNOW, I, WE HAVEN'T USED THIS TERM IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AROUND HERE IN A WHILE, BUT WE USED TO REFER TO GAIN SHARE.

AND SO MOST OF THE STRATEGIES ON HERE, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE, THE SMALLER ONES LIKE THE TOOLS AND THE, THE VOLUNTEER PROGRAMS, MOST OF THE MORE SIGNIFICANT STRATEGIES ON HERE ARE, ARE BUILDING AROUND THE ASSUMPTION THAT A PERCENT OF SOME NEW REVENUE IS BETTER THAN NO NEW REVENUE.

AND SO IF WE'RE GIVEN, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GONNA DO AN, IF WE'RE GONNA DO A PFC AND RECALL NOW UNDER THE NEW STATE LAW, WE CAN NEGOTIATE THE PFCA LITTLE BIT MORE ARTICULATELY AND WE CAN ASK FOR CERTAIN THINGS.

UM, IF WE'RE GOING TO, UM, PROVIDE A 50 50% TAX REBATE FOR 15 YEARS SO THAT WE CAN GET, YOU KNOW, 50% OF THE UNITS AT 80% A MI, WE'RE STILL GONNA GAIN, WE'RE ONLY GONNA GAIN AT A FRACTION OF WHAT WE WOULD IF IT WAS A HUNDRED PERCENT MARKET.

SO I'D BE CURIOUS WHICH OF THE STRATEGIES YOU RECOMMENDED WOULD, WOULD APPLY TO THAT? WHAT WOULD ALLOW US TO ATTRACT DEVELOPERS TO, UM, BRING IN MISS MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING, IN PARTICULAR, THE TYPES THAT WE DON'T ALREADY HAVE? OKAY.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'VE REALLY FOCUSED ON, OUR STRATEGY, THE LARGER STRATEGIES ARE ALL BUILT AROUND THE FACT THAT WE'RE STILL GONNA GAIN, BUT WE'RE GONNA SHARE IN THE GAIN.

AND THAT SHARING THAT WE DO WITH THE PRIVATE, UH, DEVELOPMENT PARTNER IS GONNA BE WHAT THEY USE TO OFFSET THE DISCOUNT IN THE RENT.

AND SO, SO THAT'S REALLY, THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'VE, WE'VE TRIED TO, TO BUILD THIS AROUND.

AND THEN THERE'S SOME SMALLER PROGRAMS THAT THAT'S NOT TRUE OF THEY'RE, BUT THEY'RE MORE COST EFFECTIVE THINGS LIKE, LIKE MAUREEN WAS, UM, LIKE MAUREEN WAS DESCRIBING.

BUT, UM, BUT AGAIN, I, I WANNA ECHO WHAT MAUREEN SAYS WHEN I LOOK AT THIS, YOU KNOW, EVEN THIS, THIS MODEST LIST OF STRATEGIES, TO ME, THIS IS LIKE A, YOU KNOW, A FIVE TO MAYBE A SEVEN YEAR PLAN TO BE ABLE TO BRING ON WHAT YOU BELIEVE, UH, BASED ON MAUREEN'S EXPERTISE AND OTHERS WILL BE THE MOST IMPACTFUL.

BUT THIS IS REALLY PRIORITIZING OR MAYBE EVEN WHITTLING THIS LIST DOWN AND THEN PRIORITIZING AND THEN FIGURE OUT HOW WE DO THIS, UM, OVER THE COURSE OF, YOU KNOW, A, A FIVE TO SEVEN YEAR MID, WHAT I WOULD CALL MORE OF A MIDTERM STRATEGIC PLAN, RATHER THAN ACTIVATING EVERYTHING AT ONCE.

YEAH, I MEAN, THAT'S HELPFUL.

I MEAN, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT PFCS AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS IN THE PAST, IT SORT OF HAS BEEN MAYBE IT'S GONNA BE A NET ZERO, OR WE MIGHT ACTUALLY, WE MIGHT NOT MAKE ANY MONEY.

SO IF, IF WE THINK THAT THERE, TO YOUR POINT, THERE'S A SMALL PERCENTAGE IS BETTER THAN NOTHING THAT THAT'S WORTH TALKING ABOUT POTENTIALLY, EXCEPT THAT I THINK WE ARE THEN CONCENTRATING, UM, WHICH I THINK IS AGAIN, UH, FOR ME, A, A RISING TIDE LIFT ALL BOATS.

AND IF WE'RE, THAT'S NOT GONNA BE THE CASE IF WE PUT SORT OF ALL OF OUR EGGS IN ONE BASKET OR PART OF THE CITY.

AND SO I THINK WE, FOR ME, I'M, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR STRATEGY.

DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT FURTHER, BUT, BUT WITH RESPECT TO THE HOUSING NEEDS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT, I'M IN FAVOR.

UH, AND, AND ECHO SORT OF SOME OF THE CONCERNS AROUND AROUND SENIORS BEING ABLE TO AGE IN PLACE, WHETHER I, I LIKE THAT YOU POINTED OUT, WHETHER THAT MEANS THEY STAY IN THEIR HOME OR WE, OR WE PROVIDE OTHER OPTIONS FOR THEM BECAUSE PROVIDING OPTIONS FOR SENIORS TO GET OUT OF THEIR HOME THEN OPENS UP HOUSING FOR YOUNGER FAMILIES.

AND SO THERE, THERE CAN BE REALLY GOOD STRATEGIES AROUND THAT.

SO I'M DEFINITELY IN FAVOR OF EXPLORING WHAT THOSE ARE WITH RESPECT TO SENIORS.

UM, AND THEN MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING, WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT WITH RESPECT TO THE, UM, ENVISION RICHARDSON PLAN.

SO I WOULD BE CURIOUS, WHICH OF THESE STRATEGIES WOULD ALLOW US TO REALLY GET BUNGALOW COURT HOMES OR WHAT, WHAT, YOU KNOW, COURTYARD, UM, YOU KNOW, THINGS BECAUSE THOSE ARE GONNA BE $300,000, THEY'RE SMALLER, YOU HAVE A SMALLER FOOTPRINT, SO YOU CAN BUILD THEM, UM, FOR A, A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN YOU WOULD A TOWN HOME.

UM, AND THEY WOULD ADDRESS SENIOR NEEDS AND SMALLER FAMILY NEEDS.

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UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'VE, WE'VE ALL TALKED ABOUT, WE HAVE, UH, NEW TOWN HOME DEVELOPMENTS, BUT WE NEED TO ADDRESS THE OTHERS, WHICH ARE THE SMALLER FOOTPRINT.

UM, AND WITH RESPECT TO WHETHER WE WANNA CALL IT AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR LOW INCOME HOUSING, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO HAVE ALL OF THAT IN HERE SPREAD ACROSS THE CITY.

SO WHAT STRATEGIES HAVE YOU BROUGHT BEFORE US TONIGHT THAT WOULD ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN? AGAIN, WHAT'S GONNA ALLOW OUR DRIVER LOADER TO BE ABLE TO LIVE IN THE CITY OF RICHARDSON? UM, IT, THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT, THAT I'M INTERESTED IN EXPLORING.

AND SO I GUESS NEED FEEDBACK FROM YOU ABOUT WHAT ARE THOSE STRATEGIES? AND THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT I, I WOULD LIKE US TO SEE, TO SEE US PURSUE.

SO I THINK, UM, IT'S, IT'S GREAT THAT YOU MENTIONED, OKAY, WE'RE, WE CAN ALLOW MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING, BUT HOW DO WE REALLY GET PEOPLE TO, TO BUILD IT ON THE GROUND? AND SO, ESPECIALLY IF YOU COUPLE THAT MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING WITH SENIOR FRIENDLY HOUSING, RIGHT? SO YOUR GOAL IS, OKAY, LET'S HAVE, LET'S HAVE THIS PILOT PROJECT WHERE IT IS COTTAGE COURTS OR BUNGALOW COURTS AROUND A, IS IT MUSE? I'M NOT A PLANNER, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT YOU'VE GOT A GRASSY AREA.

UM, WHEN, WHEN I WAS CHATTING WITH DON, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE ARE PARCELS OF LAND THAT THE CITY OF RICHARDSON OWNS, AND SO YOU COULD POTENTIALLY FOCUS ON ONE OF THOSE BECAUSE IF YOU OWN IT, UM, YOU COULD PUT MORE RESTRICTIONS ON WHATEVER IS DEVELOPED ON IT.

SO YOU COULD PUT OUT AN RFP, WE WANNA HAVE SENIOR FRIENDLY MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING BUILT ON THIS PARCEL OF LAND.

UM, WE'RE WILLING TO SELL IT AT A, UM, A BELOW MARKET PRICE, UM, WHICH YOU'D BE ABLE TO DO IF YOU WERE PUTTING AN AFFORDABILITY CAP ON IT.

UM, AND LET THAT BE YOUR PILOT PROJECT.

UM, AND I THINK THAT ALSO ADDRESSES SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT RICHARDSON RESIDENTS HAD WITH ENVISION RICHARDSON.

THEY LOVED THE IDEA OF MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING, WEREN'T QUITE SURE THEY WANTED IT IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD, RIGHT? YEAH.

AND SO YOU CAN, YOU COULD DO A PILOT PROJECT, HAVE IT BE A TOUR OF HOMES, ALLOW PEOPLE TO TOUR IT AND, AND KIND OF ALLOW PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THIS IS HIGH QUALITY HOUSING, THIS IS WHAT PEOPLE WANT.

AND LOOK, YOU KNOW, THIS IS AN, AN OPTION FOR SENIORS.

SO I THINK THAT'S ONE THING YOU CAN DO.

SO YOU CAN SAY, WE ARE NOT GONNA PARTNER WITH A MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPER THAT WANTS TO MAKE IT A HUNDRED PERCENT AFFORDABLE.

WE'RE ONLY GONNA SUPPORT PROJECTS THAT ARE 50 50.

SO YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO CREATE THAT INCOME MIX IN WHATEVER YOU WOULD SUPPORT.

YOU DON'T JUST HAVE TO SAY, WHATEVER DEVELOPER COMES FIRST AND PROPOSES A PARTNERSHIP, WE'RE GONNA GO WITH THEM.

SO YOU GUIDED BY A STRATEGY YOU CAN REALLY IMPACT WHAT IS BUILT IN YOUR COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY RELATED TO AFFORDABILITY.

FIRST LAYER, IF YOU WILL, TO GO BACK AND LOOK THROUGH, THROUGH THAT LENS AT ALL THESE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS, BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE HOW, AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE HOW IF, IF WE WERE JUST USING THAT MIDDLE MISSING HOUSING EXAMPLE, WE COULD COME BACK WITH A PROGRAM THAT WOULD INCENT MIDDLE MISSING HOUSING BECAUSE WE LACK THAT TYPE, BUT IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY MAKE IT AFFORDABLE TO ANYBODY THAT WE'RE, THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FROM THE ONE 20 ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE 50.

I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S HELPFUL.

I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THEM IN THE PAST, BUT TO REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT ARE THE GUARDRAILS WITH RESPECT TO THE STATE LAW.

YOU KNOW, CAN WE SAY WE WANT 10% OF THE UNITS VERSUS 50 50 AS YOU'VE DESCRIBED? OR, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

BUT, BUT UNDERSTANDING THEN THAT YOU PROBABLY HAVE TO DO THIS WITH MULTIPLE DIFFERENT APARTMENT COMPLEXES IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE THE PERCENTAGE YOU'RE LOOKING FOR ACROSS THE CITY, WHICH, WHICH MAKES IT MORE EXPENSIVE, UM, FROM A, FROM A TAX STANDPOINT.

SO, UM, I MEAN, THAT, THAT'S WHERE I STAND ON ON IT TONIGHT.

I THINK IF WE CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO HELP SENIORS AND REALLY, REALLY SORT OF INCENTIVIZE PARTICULAR TYPES OF MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING, UM, I THINK THAT THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.

AND THEN TARGETING, UM, WAYS THAT WE CAN, AGAIN, JUST USE THE DRIVER LOAD OR NOT TO BEAT UP ON THAT PARTICULAR POSITION.

UM, BUT SOMEONE LIKE WHO, UM, THAT WORKS FOR THE CITY, UH, THERE'S AN OPEN POSITION NOW WOULD, WOULD BE ABLE TO FIND A PLACE IN THE CITY THAT WOULD WORK FOR THEM AND THEIR FAMILY AS WELL.

CAN MAYOR, IF YOU DON'T MIND, UM, I, I JUST WANT TO, UH, MAKE ONE POINT HERE.

SO THIS IS HOW NUANCED THIS CONVERSATION IS.

UM, SO WE COULD, YOU, YOU COULD BE ASKING US TO DO A MIDDLE MISSING HOUSING, UH, PROGRAM BECAUSE YOU'RE INTERESTED IN FILLING A GAP IN THE HOUSING TYPE, BUT THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN IT WILL BE RESPONSIVE TO ANYBODY, A HUNDRED PERCENT, 120 OR 50 OR, OR 80% A MI OR YOU COULD BE ASKING US TO DO, TO, TO RESEARCH A STRATEGY THAT BOTH ACCOMPLISHES MIDDLE MISSING HOUSING.

AND IF YOU DECIDE, FOR INSTANCE, THE 80%, WHICH IS CONSIDERED LOW INCOME, YOU WANT MIDDLE MISSING HOUSING, THAT ALSO SATISFIES THE 80% A MI STANDARD.

RIGHT? AND SO THAT'S, UH, AND SO I, I THINK AFTER SOME GOOD CONVERSATION, I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, MY RECOMMENDATION'S GONNA BE TO COME BACK AND SAY, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, UH, RA WHAT GROUP ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? ARE WE TALKING ABOUT 80%, WHICH IS LOW INCOME? ARE WE TALKING ABOUT 50%, WHICH IS VERY LOW INCOME? ARE WE TALKING ABOUT A HUNDRED TO 120%? WHICH GENERALLY TENDS TO BE WORKED THOUGHT OF AS MAYBE WORKFORCE HOUSING, BECAUSE WE'LL NEED THAT GUIDANCE.

UM, BUT AS A KIND OF A

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YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT POINT.

I MEAN, I THINK THE EXAMPLE YOU PROVIDED ABOUT MAKING BUNGALOW COURTS FOR SENIORS THAT, YOU KNOW, LIKE SOMETHING LIKE THAT I THINK WOULD ADDRESS, UM, BOTH OF THOSE.

I THINK PART OF WHAT WE'D WANT WHEN IN MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING IS NOT CUTE LITTLE COURTYARD HOUSING, BUT HOUSING THAT PEOPLE CAN AFFORD TO BUY.

UM, AND, AND THAT SMALLER FOOTPRINT ALLOWS THAT.

SO I THINK IT'S AN EXCELLENT POINT THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER.

UH, MAUREEN, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

AND, AND I KNOW WE'VE GOT SOME MORE QUESTIONS COMING.

I DO HAVE JUST A, A FEW CLARIFICATIONS.

UM, YOU WENT OVER H ONE AND H TWO AS A COUPLE OF THE DIFFERENT, UH, STRATEGIES.

I THINK H ONE WAS MORE FOCUSED, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, ON SENIORS, UH, WHERE H TWO WAS MORE HOME OWNERSHIP, LIKE SENIORS AGING IN PLACE.

IS THAT WHAT, UH, H ONE, UH, NEED ONE WAS, YES.

NEED ONE WAS, UM, SENIORS AGING IN PLACE.

UH, AND THEN, OH, SORRY, I WENT THE WRONG WAY.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S SPECIFICALLY FOCUSED ON SENIORS? YES.

UM, AND I KNOW ON H ONE YOU MENTIONED HABITAT AS A POTENTIAL OPTION, UM, WHICH IS INTERESTING TO ME 'CAUSE I'VE NEVER THOUGHT OF HABITAT IN THAT WAY, BUT, BUT I, I SUPPOSE I COULD SEE IT, WHEREAS H TWO, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, WAS ABOUT MORE AFFORDABLE PURCHASED UNITS.

SO THAT'S HOUSES YOU CAN PURCHASE.

SO WHENEVER I'VE THOUGHT OF HABITAT, I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT OF IT, I GUESS, IN THIS NEED TWO VERSUS IN THE NEED ONE.

UM, HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHY IT'S NOT NEED TWO OR, OR MAYBE IT IS, YOU JUST DIDN'T USE IT AS AN EXAMPLE, UH, VERSUS NEED ONE.

YEAH, THEY THEY ABSOLUTELY COULD BE.

SO THEY, THEY COULD BE THE PROVIDER FOR JUST FOR SALE THAT'S TARGETED TO FAMILIES TOO.

UM, BUT THE THOUGHT, ESPECIALLY FROM A COMMUNITY LAND TRUST STANDPOINT, IF YOU WERE GOING TO DO A COMMUNITY LAND TRUST, YOU WANT A NONPROFIT THAT HAS A LONG TRACK RECORD AND THAT YOU EXPECT WILL BE IN EXISTENCE IN 50 TO 90 YEARS.

AND SO THAT'S WHERE LIKE A HABITAT WOULD BE A GOOD PARTNER BECAUSE THEY'VE ALREADY HAD SUCH A LONG TRACK RECORD OKAY.

BEYOND THAT.

SO I GO TO THE PUBLIC LAND.

THERE YOU GO.

AND SO, HA HABITAT ALSO, I GUESS JUST, UH, 'CAUSE AGAIN, TRADITIONALLY UNTIL I LEARNED A LITTLE MORE ABOUT THEM, TRADITIONALLY I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT ABOUT JUST THE SINGLE FAMILY HOME THAT THEY BUILD, BUT I KNOW THAT THEY ALSO BUILD, UH, LIKE COMMUNITIES OR, OR SOMETIMES APARTMENT OR OR TOWN HOME TYPE COMMUNITIES.

SO, UM, IN, IN THE NEED ONE VERSION WHERE YOU WERE SPEAKING OF AN ORGANIZATION LIKE THEIRS MM-HMM .

WERE YOU THINKING MORE IN THAT KIND OF DENSER OR AT LEAST SMALLER, UM, FOOTPRINT TYPE SCENARIOS? YES.

'CAUSE ESPECIALLY FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE THERE DALLAS AREA HABITAT FOR HUMANITY, FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, THEY WERE THE HIGHEST PRODUCTION BUILDER IN THE, IN THE AREA.

AND SO IF WE, IF YOU HAD PRE-APPROVED LIKE MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING, THEY COULD BE A GREAT ORGANIZATION THAT WOULD TAKE THOSE PLANS BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE AS CONCERNED ABOUT THE DESIGN OF THE HOME.

AND, YOU KNOW, LIKE I'M A HOME BUILDER AND I WANNA HAVE A SPECIFIC MEDITERRANEAN STYLE THAT I'M GONNA BUILD HABITAT.

IF YOU GIVE THEM SOME, SOME PLANS AND YOU'RE MAKING THAT A REALLY EASY PROCESS, THEY WOULD BE A GREAT PARTNER IN SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

COOL.

SUPER HELPFUL.

UH, THE SECOND QUESTION I HAD, UM, YOU MENTIONED OPPORTUNITY ZONES 2.0.

UH, AND, UH, I STARTED DOING MORE AND MORE RESEARCH ON, ON THEM, ON ON OPPORTUNITY ZONES PERIOD.

AND THEN YOU WOULD PRIORITIZE WHICH ONES YOU WOULD ASK THE GOVERNOR TO DESIGNATE AS AN OPPORTUNITY.

UH, UH, THIS WAS A FASCINATING SLIDE TO ME ONLY BECAUSE I WAS CURIOUS IF YOU WERE USING THOSE CENSUS TRACKS AS POTENTIAL EXAMPLES, OR YOU HAVE DATA THAT MIGHT INDICATE THAT THOSE COULD BE FIVE TRACKS THAT COULD BECOME OPPORTUNITY ZONES.

SO IT'S THE LATTER.

SO IT'S NOT MY ANALYSIS, BUT IT IS A, UM, A, A PRIVATE COMPANY THAT'S BEEN VERY INVOLVED IN OPPORTUNITY ZONES.

AND SO THEY PUBLISH THESE MAPS FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTRY OF, BASED ON THE ONE BIG BEAUTIFUL BILL ACT, BECAUSE IT DID CHANGE SOME OF THE QUALIFICATION CRITERIA, WHAT CENSUS TRACKS COULD POTENTIALLY BE ELIGIBLE.

SO THAT'S WHY I'M PHRASING IT UP AS POTENTIAL BECAUSE YOU WOULD NEED TO DO THE ANALYSIS AND, AND MAKE SURE THAT THESE ARE, ARE TRULY MEETING ONE OF THOSE TWO CRITERIA.

UM, BUT THIS IS WHAT THE, THIS CORPORATION HAD DETERMINED.

SO TO BE CLEAR, WE WOULD DO THE ANALYSIS OR WE WOULD WAIT UNTIL THE GOVERNMENT CAME FORWARD WITH THE CENSUS TRACKS THAT ACTUALLY FIT THOSE REQUIREMENTS.

YOU'RE RIGHT.

AND THEN WE WOULD LOBBY THOSE.

YOU COULD PRO PROACTIVELY, YOU COULD PROACTIVELY DO IT, BUT YES, YOU SHOULD.

THERE, THERE SHOULD BE A PUBLISHING AT SOME POINT OF ALL OF THE CENSUS TRACKS THAT ARE ELIGIBLE FOR OPPORTUNITY ZONES.

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SO THEN WE WOULD LOBBY FOR, HEY, WE REALLY WANT, UH, ONE 90.52 OR WHATEVER THE, WHICHEVER ONE IT IS THAT WE CHOSE.

AND THAT'S WHERE WE COULD GO FROM THERE.

AND LOOK, WE HAVE THIS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY, WE HAVE THIS HOUSING STRATEGY.

WE ARE POISED TO REALLY CAPITALIZE ON OPPORTUNITY ZONES IF YOU DESIGNATE THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY ZONE.

SO THE ONE, SO THEY HAVE TO, THEY HAVE TO MEET ONE OF THOSE, LIKE WHAT, WHAT IS CLEAR IS THEY HAVE TO MEET ONE OF THOSE TWO CRITERIA.

I JUST HAVEN'T DONE THE ANALYSIS FAIR ENOUGH.

INDIVIDUALLY THAT THOSE MEET IT.

I JUST WASN'T SURE IF YOU, SOMETHING OFFICIALLY CAME OUT IN THE LAST FEW DAYS OR WHATEVER THAT WELL, IF IT CAME OUT, I PREPARED THIS, THIS SLIDE ABOUT A WEEK AGO PROBLEM.

SO IF IT CAME OUT IN THE PAST COUPLE OF DAYS, THEN NO PROBLEM.

UH, SO WE'RE, WE'RE STILL WAITING ON THE, ON THE, ON THE ACTUAL, UM, OFFICIAL TRACKS THAT THE GOVERNMENT SUGGESTS WOULD, WOULD BE POSSIBLE OPPORTUNITY ZONES.

THESE ARE OUR GUESSES AS TO WHERE THEY MIGHT END UP BEING IF WE DO END UP QUALIFYING FOR SOME.

IS THAT RIGHT? YES.

YES, CORRECT.

UM, AND THEN THE LAST, ACTUALLY I'VE GOT A COUPLE OTHER QUESTIONS.

UM, SO, UM, BENCHMARKING AGAINST OTHER CITIES IS ALWAYS INTERESTING TO ME, UM, IN TERMS OF, AND, AND, AND THAT PROBABLY ENDS UP MAKING THE STUDY THAT YOU'VE ALREADY DONE.

IT'S PROBABLY OUT OF BOUNDS OF THE, OF THIS STUDY YOU'VE ALREADY DONE.

BUT I'D BE REALLY CURIOUS, UM, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE STAND RELATIVE TO, YOU KNOW, NEIGHBORS THAT WE WOULD CONSIDER LIKE US MM-HMM .

UH, WHICH I THINK IS ALWAYS A DIFFICULT THING TO DO, UM, ESPECIALLY AS IT RELATES TO SOME OF THE DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE, UH, OCCUPANCY LEVELS, UM, AVERAGE INCOME, THESE KINDS OF THINGS.

SO, SO WE DID DO, WE DID DO THAT, NOT IN THIS PRESENTATION, BUT IN THE LONGER DRAFT.

THAT'S BEING CIRCULATED AMONG STAFF.

WE, UM, COMPARED SETS OF DATA TO ALAN GARLAND AND PLANO.

SO LOOKED AT SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES, UM, AND LOOKED AT ALL OF THAT.

UH, YOU SAID CENSUS DATA, YOU MEAN RE RELATIVE TO THE, SOME OF THE OTHER STATS YOU SHOWED US EARLIER THIS EVENING? YES, YES.

MM-HMM.

SO LIKE, UH, AVERAGE INCOME, NOT AVERAGE INCOME, BUT AVERAGE HOME VALUES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

AND SOME REALLY INTERESTING DATA.

I, I ALWAYS LIKE TO, BECAUSE YOU COME INTO A HOUSING STRATEGY WITH SOME PRECONCEIVED NOTIONS.

AND SO, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, I THOUGHT RICHARDSON WAS LIKELY AN AGING CITY, RIGHT? BUT REALLY YOUR AVERAGE AGE HAS DECREASED WHILE SURROUNDING CITIES.

THEIR AVERAGE AGE HAS INCREASED PRIMARILY BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN INVESTING IN MULTI-FAMILY AND YOU HAVE YOUNGER PEOPLE THAT ARE MOVING INTO THOSE RENTAL UNITS.

SO IT DOES PROVIDE REALLY FASCINATING INSIGHTS ABOUT HOW YOUR CITY COMPARES TO SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES.

BUT YES, THAT IS IN, UM, IN THE DRAFT STRATEGY.

UH, I THINK FOR NOW THAT'S HELPFUL FOR ME.

I, I, UM, UM, I'VE GOT SOME OPINIONS ON WHICH OF THE THINGS I, I PROBABLY WOULD LOVE TO SEE US PUT A LITTLE BIT MORE FOCUS ON.

BUT, BUT I DO THINK, UH, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH MAYBE COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE HAD MENTIONED, UH, OR, OR, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER INE HAD MENTIONED, UM, UNDERSTANDING THE PROS AND CONS OF, YOU KNOW, I, IT'S PROBABLY TOO MANY TO SAY.

I WANT TO KNOW EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM IN THE PROS AND CONS.

UM, BUT I DO WONDER IF THERE'S SOME SORT OF MECHANISM OTHER THAN US, UH, UH, HASHING IT THE WAY WE MIGHT DO FOR ANOTHER TWO HOURS OR THREE HOURS, WHICH IS ALSO FINE.

UH, BUT WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S A WAY TO COME BACK WITH, HEY, AFTER THE THINGS YOU'VE HEARD, PERHAPS HERE ARE TWO OR THREE, UH, KIND OF LIKE THE, UH, AQUATIC STUDY, RIGHT? MM-HMM .

HERE ARE THREE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT YOU MIGHT, MIGHT BE PACKAGES OF THINGS THAT ARE BITE-SIZED ENOUGH FOR STAFF, BUT THAT HAVE THEIR PROS AND CONS.

IF YOU REALLY WANNA LEAN IN ON A MI, MAYBE THIS IS A WAY YOU COULD GO, OR IF YOU REALLY WANNA LEAN IN ON, UH, UH, SOLVING THE PROBLEM OF MISSING MIDDLE OR THE, THE HOUSING STOCK WE DON'T HAVE, OR DON'T HAVE ENOUGH OF HERE'S A WAY YOU COULD DO IT, OR HERE'S A MIXED VERSION.

SOMETHING LIKE THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL POTENTIALLY.

UM, YEAH, I THINK MAYOR AT THE END I'VE GOT, I'VE BEEN TRY KEEPING A LIST.

I THINK WE'RE GONNA TRY, SO FAR I'VE GOT THREE THINGS THAT I THINK IF WE CAN GAIN SOME CONSENSUS ON BY THE END OF THE NIGHT, WE CAN DO EXACTLY THAT.

WE CAN COME BACK WITH THE, WITH THE STRATEGIES THAT ARE RESPONSIVE TO THAT CONSENSUS, AND THEN WE CAN DO THE PROS AND THE CONS.

WE CAN PUT A COST TO IT, PUT AN IMPLEMENTATION SCHEDULE OR, OR, OR, YOU KNOW, PROPOSED IMPLEMENTATION CALENDAR TO IT.

WE CAN DO ALL THOSE THINGS.

UH, HIGHER POSSIBILITY OF, OF PEOPLE GOING IN AND DOING THOSE THINGS.

UM, I GUESS WHILE I'VE GOT THE MIC, I'LL JUST FINISH BY SAYING, UM, I'M VERY INTERESTED IN SEEING WHETHER OR NOT THERE ARE, UM, NATURAL THINGS WE CAN DO BY, BY NATURAL I MEAN MAYBE ZONING AND THAT SORT OF THING.

NOT NECESSARILY, UM, UH, THROWING INCENTIVE DOLLARS AT IT, UM, TO, UH, TO LEAN IN ON, ON THE MISSING MIDDLE ELEMENTS THAT WE'VE ALREADY IDENTIFIED AND ENVISION RICHARDSON.

UM, SO, YOU KNOW, COULD WE JUST MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS IN ZONING THAT REALLY AT LEAST MAKE THAT A, A, A HIGHER, UH,

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UM, I'M VERY INTERESTED IN LEANING IN ON OPPORTUNITY ZONES.

'CAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING OF IT IS IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY REQUIRE A TON OF EXTRA MONEY BY US MM-HMM .

AND ESPECIALLY IF, LET'S SAY IT'S THE WEST SPRING VALLEY ONE THAT YOU'VE GOT BOXED IN THERE, RIGHT? IF WE ALREADY HAVE TIFF IN THAT AREA, THEN THERE'S A, THERE'S A WAY TO DO THAT.

UM, SO I, I LIKE THAT AS, AS A POTENTIAL FOCUS.

UM, AND THEN OTHER THAN THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY MY, MY THIRD ITEM WOULD BE PILOTING, UM, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS ONE-OFF SCENARIOS WHERE WE CAN TEST A FEW OTHER THINGS, WHETHER THAT BE SOMETHING LIKE HABITAT OR SOMETHING LIKE TAKING AN APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED, MAYBE WE'VE ALREADY ALLOWED OR GIVEN SOME INCENTIVE AND GO TO THEM AND SAY, HEY, WHAT CAN WE DO TO MAKE IT TO WHERE YOU CONSIDER 10% OF YOUR UNITS OR 15%? JUST SO WE CAN START TO TASTE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, UH, AT 80% A MI OR WHATEVER THE, WHATEVER THE NUMBER IS THAT THE COUNCIL COULD, COULD COME TO.

SO I'LL, I'LL STOP THERE AND PROBABLY WON'T HAVE MUCH, UH, AT THIS POINT GOING FORWARD.

UH, COUNCIL MEMBER CORCORAN, I THINK YOU WERE NEXT.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

UH, DON, I HOPE I DON'T BLOW UP YOUR, YOUR THREE POINTS WITH MY NEXT COMMENTS, BUT I'VE BEEN, I'VE BEEN DOING SOME THINKING, A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCHING ON THE SIDE JUST REAL QUICK.

I MEAN, SOMETHING THAT LOOKS REALLY INTERESTING WITH THESE, UM, COMMUNITY LAND TRUSTS, IT LOOKS LIKE, AND CORRECT ME, I JUST WANT CONFIRM THIS WITH YOU.

SEE, IF IT SAYS THAT AN HFC CAN ACTUALLY START A COMMUNITY LAND TRUST, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S, IT'S REALLY HARD BECAUSE I, I ACTUALLY LOVE ALL THESE SUGGESTIONS AND I APPRECIATE THAT STAFF WANTS US TO NARROW SOME OF THIS DOWN.

AND I, I'VE BEEN LISTENING TO ALL THE COMMENTS.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THAT MAYOR PRO TIM AND OTHERS ARE RIGHT, THAT A LARGE PROBLEM THAT WE'VE HAD WHEN DOING THIS IS THAT THERE'S, IT'S HARD FOR US TO GAIN CONSENSUS ON AN ACTUAL TARGET DEMOGRAPHIC AND STRATEGY.

AND I, I WANT TO PUSH BACK A LITTLE BIT AND SAY, I DON'T KNOW THAT BROADLY SPEAKING, THIS COUNCIL IS GONNA BE ABLE TO COME TO A CONSENSUS ON A BROAD FIVE, 10 YEAR STRATEGY FOR TARGETING, YOU KNOW, 30% OF A MI FOR RICHARDSON OR 70% OF A MI.

BUT WHAT I THINK HAS HAPPENED IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS, WHAT I SEE WITH SOME OF THESE SUGGESTIONS AND STUFF THAT I REALLY LIKE IS JUST NONPROFITS AND YOU COULD CALL CORPORATIONS THAT THE CITY HAS ALMOST COMPLETE CONTROL OVER THAT FACILITATE US BEING ABLE TO WORK WITH THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, WHICH IS SOMETHING HISTORICALLY HAS BEEN A HUGE STRENGTH OF RICHARDSON TO REALLY TAKE SITUATIONS SORT OF ONE OFF AND FACILITATE THAT SMALL SCALE EXPERIMENTATION.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THIS AS THAT DECADE LONG JOURNEY, UM, YOU KNOW, AND ACCEPTING THAT WE WON'T ALL GET EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT.

YOU KNOW, I FEEL LIKE, I FEEL LIKE WHERE I'M LEANING IS SAYING TO STAFF THAT I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE STAFF TO FOCUS ON REALLY CREATING THAT FRAMEWORK WITH SOME SORT OF CORPORATION MM-HMM .

WHERE THE CITY COUNCIL OR SOME COMBINATION OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND VARIOUS COMMUNITY MEMBERS ARE A BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR THAT CORPORATION, THAT GRANT US THAT COMPLETE CONTROL, THAT ALLOW A DEVELOPER TO COME IN AND ALMOST NEGOTIATE WITH US AND SAY, HEY, MAYBE WE'LL GIVE A COUPLE UNITS AT THIS A MIA COUPLE UNITS AT A HIGHER A MI SATISFY TO A SMALLER EXTENT BOTH WHAT SAY COUNCIL MEMBER BRA BARRIOS AND MAYOR PRO TIM WANT SITUATIONS LIKE THAT AS THEY ARISE.

I FEEL LIKE THAT GIVES US THE FLEXIBILITY WHERE WE DON'T HAVE TO SIT HERE, AS WE'VE SAID FOR A COUPLE HOURS AND DEBATE BACK AND FORTH WHICH DEMOGRAPHIC WE WANT TO TARGET RIGHT NOW.

SO THAT'S REALLY WHERE I'M LEANING.

UM, I KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE PROBABLY SHE HAD TO TAKE A, A QUICK BREAK, BUT, YOU KNOW, THE ONE THING I'LL SAY IS THAT THAT ALSO IN THE LONG TERM MAYBE WILL ALLOW US TO STRATEGICALLY PLACE AND APPROVE THESE PROJECTS IN DIFFERENT POINTS AROUND THE CITY.

SO THEY'RE ALL JUST CONCENTRATED IN ONE SPOT.

UM, THAT'S WHERE I'M LEANING.

I MEAN, I THINK THERE'S OTHER, THE OTHER LITTLE STRATEGIES, RIGHT? THINGS LIKE, UH, FINDING WAYS TO MAKE OUR ZONING A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBLE, EVEN, EVEN AS WE, OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN I THINK DOES A GOOD JOB OF SIGNALING TO DEVELOPERS THAT WERE INTERESTED IN ONE-OFF ZONING CHANGES.

I'M WITH YOU.

I MEAN, WE CAN FIND LITTLE PLACES THAT WE CAN START TO LOOSEN THAT UP.

AND THEN ALSO I THINK, I DON'T THINK THERE'S A SINGLE PERSON UP HERE THAT DISAGREES WITH THE NEW TIER OF, OF HIP, ESPECIALLY, AND THIS IS MY LAST POINT ON THIS VERY LONG-WINDED SORT OF MONOLOGUE, BUT ESPECIALLY I KNOW THAT CDBG GRANTS ARE, UM, THEY'RE A LOT LESS STRINGS ATTACHED NOW THAN THERE WERE WHEN THAT WAS FIRST INTRODUCED TO THE POINT WHERE IT'S, IT'S PRETTY MUCH FREE MONEY THAT WE'RE LEAVING ON THE TABLE.

SO, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT, THAT WOULD BE MY COCKTAIL OF RECOMMENDATIONS AND SOLUTIONS.

PERFECT.

THANK YOU FOR THE COCKTAIL.

, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER BARRIOS.

UM, I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT COUNCILWOMAN JUSTICE SAID EARLIER, UM, AND KIND OF THE SPIRIT, AND I WANT TO ADD MINE, BUT BEFORE I ADD MINE TO WHAT SHE SAID, I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

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UH, GOING TO THE SLIDE THAT THE MAYOR LOVED THE OPPORTUNITY ZONE 2.0, THIS IS THE ONE I'VE STRUGGLED, I GUESS TO UNDERSTAND.

SO I WAS HOPING YOU CAN KIND OF DUMB IT DOWN FOR ME A LITTLE BIT.

BECAUSE, UM, AND JUST SIMPLIFY IT.

LOOKING AT ONE POINT, I LIVE IN OPPORTUNITY ZONE 1 9 2 0.14, AND WHILE I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE APARTMENTS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THAT, AT THE VERY SOUTHERN PART OF THAT, UM, MOST OF THAT IS SINGLE FAMILY HOME.

AND THE REALITY IS MOST OF THOSE HOMES ARE SELLING TO CLOSE TO A MILLION DOLLARS AND A COUPLE EVEN HAVE SOLD OVER A MILLION DOLLARS RECENTLY.

SO HOW ARE THOSE, AND THEN I LOOK ON THE NORTH SIDE.

ON NORTH SIDE, I'M THINKING THAT'S CANYON CREEK, THAT'S ONE OF THE WEALTHIER AREAS OF, OF OUR CITY.

UM, HOW I DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND HOW THESE OPPORTUNITY ZONES AND WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THIS, SO CAN YOU, CAN YOU KIND OF JUST RESTATE THAT OR EXPLAIN IT FURTHER? 'CAUSE I'M STRUGGLING WITH THIS? SURE.

THE, THE PURPOSE, ESPECIALLY IF THE NEW LIKE OPPORTUNITY ZONES 2.0 IS TO INCENTIVIZE CAPITAL BE, TO BE INVESTED INTO, UM, CENSUS TRACKS THAT HAVE LOWER MEDIAN INCOMES, RIGHT? SO, OR EITHER ON AVERAGE MEDIAN INCOME THAT'S LOWER THAN THE MEDIAN INCOME FOR THE REST OF THE CITY, OR THEY HAVE HIGHER POVERTY RATES, RIGHT? SO THAT'S WHERE KIND OF THE, THE WEST SPRING VALLEY COULD BE, UM, IT'S LIKELY THERE'S HIGH POVERTY RATES RELATED TO THE APARTMENTS, AND THEN THE INCOMES ARE HIGHER IN THE SINGLE FAMILY COMMUNITIES.

BUT THAT'S WHY IT WOULD, IT WOULD QUALIFY UNDER THE SECOND CRITERIA, NOT THE, NOT THE FIRST CRITERIA.

SO IS THERE FEDERAL OR STATE MONEY TIED TO THAT, IF WE, IS THAT WHERE NO, I MEAN, WHAT IS THE PURPOSE, I GUESS, BEHIND IDENTIFYING THESE ZONES? SO IT, IT'S SIMILAR TO THE LOW INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDIT PROGRAM.

WHICH IS USING TAX POLICY TO, IN INCENTIVIZE PRIVATE INVESTMENT.

AND SO WITH OPPORTUNITY ZONES, IF YOU'VE HAD A CAPITAL EVENT, SO IF YOU'VE SOLD A, UM, FOR EXAMPLE, A, A LARGE MULTI-FAMILY COMPLEX AND YOU HAVE CAPITAL GAINS TAXES THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO PAY INSTEAD OF HAVING TO PAY THOSE TAXES, YOU CAN REINVEST YOUR CAPITAL GAINS INTO A OPPORTUNITY ZONE FUND.

AND AS LONG AS YOU KEEP THOSE, UM, THAT FUNDING IN THE OPPORTUNITY ZONE FUND FOR A DECADE, THEN UM, IN SOME INSTANCES, YOUR TAX LIABILITY CAN BE COMPLETELY ELIMINATED ON THE INITIAL INVESTMENT AND ON ANY, UM, APPRECIATION THAT OCCURS IN THE ASSET THAT YOU INVESTED IN, IN THE OPPORTUNITY ZONE.

SO IT'S, IT'S REALLY THROUGH TAX POLICY TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE, HEY, IF I'M CHOOSING TO INVEST IN ONE MULTIFAMILY VERSUS ANOTHER, I'D INVEST IN AN OPPORTUNITY ZONE BECAUSE I'M GONNA GET MORE BANG FOR MY BUCK.

THEN THERE, THERE'S NO DOWNSIDE.

THIS IS OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY.

THIS, THIS IS THE BEAUTY, THIS IS THE FREE MONEY WE WERE TALKING ABOUT.

THIS, THIS IS A DIFFERENT WAY THERE.

THERE'S NO DOWNSIDE.

AND, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, AND, AND IF YOU'RE AN INVESTOR AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHERE, WHERE TO, YOU KNOW, ALL US BEING EQUAL, YOU'RE LOOKING ON THIS SIDE OF SPRING VALLEY, THE NORTH SIDE VERSUS THE SOUTH SIDE.

IF YOU, AND, AND YOU, YOU KNOW THAT IF YOU INVEST IN RICHARDSON BECAUSE IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY ZONE, YOU MAY ON THE FRONT AND BACK END HAVE TAX FEDERAL TAX CREDITS.

THAT'S, THAT'S THE INCENTIVE.

BUT IT DOESN'T, THAT, THAT'S WHAT'S BEAUTIFUL ABOUT THIS.

I MEAN, THERE'S REALLY NO DOWNSIDE LOCALLY.

SO, SO EVEN IN THE SINGLE FAMILY SIDE, IT WON'T AFFECT OUR REVENUE AS A CITY IF A BUNCH OF PEOPLE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS FROM THE SINGLE FAMILY SIDE, WHICH IS PREDOMINANTLY THE DOORS THERE.

SO YOU'RE NOT LIKELY TO SEE OPPORTUNITY INVESTMENTS AT THE LEVEL OF LIKE A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.

THE SQUARE IS, IS A CENSUS TRACK.

SO THE ONLY REASON THAT SQUARE INCLUDES A BUNCH OF SINGLE FAMILY IS JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL IN THE SAME CENSUS TRACK.

BUT IT, BUT THE PART OF THAT CENSUS TRACK THAT THEY WOULD ACTUALLY, UH, UH, LIKELY INVEST IN WOULD BE IN THOSE AREAS WHERE YOU PROBABLY HAVE THAT LOWEST INCOME, WHICH IS GONNA BE ALONG THE APARTMENTS AND, AND IN THAT AREA.

ALRIGHT, NEXT QUESTION.

INCENTIVE TEAR DOWN ALL THOSE APARTMENTS, AND IT'S GONNA CREATE, CREATE DISPLACEMENT.

WHEN I LOOK AT, WHEN I THINK OF A REINVESTMENT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S BALANCING THE, OKAY, HOW DO WE KEEP PEOPLE WHERE THEY'RE AT IN THE SENSE OF WITHOUT DISPLACING PEOPLE, RIGHT? YOU CREATE INCENTIVES TO BRING PEOPLE IN.

I KNOW WE HAD A DISCUSSION, I DON'T KNOW, YEAR, YEAR PLUS AGO AROUND, UM, A ZONE AT BOWSER AND BELTLINE.

AND I REMEMBER THINKING, AND I REMEMBER ARGUING THAT IF WE CREATE THAT AS A, A ZONE OF FOCUS WITHIN THIS NEW PLAN, IT'S GONNA BASICALLY CREATE AN

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LET'S SAY WE WERE TO DO SOMETHING THAT BROUGHT IN A MIXED INCOME BUILDING, RIGHT? MM-HMM.

SORRY.

SAY, SAY WE, WE WERE TO CREATE SOME KIND OF SENSE TO BRING IN A MIXED HOUSING BUILDING AND IT REPLACES THOSE THAT ARE ALL LOW INCOME HOUSING, RIGHT? MM-HMM .

BUT INSTEAD OF GOING A HUNDRED PERCENT LOW INCOME HOUSING, UH, IT'S GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, 10% OF THE UNITS ARE, UH, WITHIN BELOW 50%.

AM I, YOU ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE A DOOR FOR DOOR TRADE OFF.

YOU'RE LOSING STILL DISPLACING 80, 70, 80%, YOU KNOW, OF THE ACTUAL DOORS.

UM, HOW DO, DO YOU, I MEAN, I GUESS WHAT IS YOUR EXPERIENCE IN THAT? HOW DOES A CITY KEEP THAT FROM HAPPENING, UM, TO KEEP PEOPLE IN THEIR HOMES? BECAUSE I'M THINKING NOAH, YOU KNOW, MAKES THE MOST SENSE.

UH, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THAT'S NOT REALISTIC IN ALL PARTS OF OUR CITY.

UM, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE NOT THE OLDEST CITY IN THE NATION.

I KNOW OTHER CITIES KEEP BUILDINGS WELL, PAST 50 YEARS, HOW HAS THAT HAPPENED WITHOUT IT PEOPLE BEING DISPLACED? SO, A COUPLE OF THINGS.

SO YOU POINTED OUT SOMETHING, ANOTHER GOOD REASON TO HAVE A HOUSING STRATEGY IS SO THAT YOU ANTICIPATE THAT POTENTIAL DISPLACEMENT WHEN YOU MAKE YOUR FIRST DECISIONS, WHETHER IT'S FROM A PLANNING OR AN INVESTMENT STANDPOINT, RIGHT? SO THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE DRAW A ZONE AROUND THIS AREA, RIGHT? IF WE CAN, IF WE EXTEND THE, THE TURS TO INCLUDE THE BOWSER AREA, WHAT COULD THAT, WHAT COULD THAT DO? AND SO YOU START PLANNING FOR THAT BEFORE FIVE TO 10 YEARS BEFORE YOU MIGHT HAVE ANY INVESTMENT THAT'S COMING IN.

AND SO, UM, SOME OF IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WE'RE GONNA LOOK TO PARTNER WITH A DEVELOPER AND HAVE THE HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION BUY ONE OF THESE.

UM, AND MAYBE IT IS A, A, UM, A LARGER PERCENTAGE OF THE UNITS ARE RESERVED AS AFFORDABLE UNITS AS OPPOSED TO 50 50, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE DO THINK IF WE MAKE INVESTMENTS IN THIS AREA, THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE MORE MULTI-FAMILY THAT ARE, THAT ARE TORN DOWN.

UM, THAT'S WHERE COMMUNITY LAND TRUSTS CAN REALLY COME IN ON THE SINGLE FAMILY SIDE.

IF YOU'RE MAKING AN INVESTMENT IN A NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, USE FUNDING EITHER NONPROFIT OR IF YOU HAVE CITY FUNDING TO ACQUIRE SOME OF THAT LAND RIGHT AWAY BEFORE IT GETS THE PRICES ESCALATE, BECAUSE IT'S SEEN AS AN AREA WHERE INVESTMENT IS COMING IN SO THAT YOUR PLANNING FOR ANY POTENTIAL DISPLACEMENT, YOU ALREADY HAVE HOMES THAT WOULD BE AFFORDABLE FOR PEOPLE THAT MIGHT BE DISPLACED FROM THEIR HOME.

SO A LOT OF IT IS PLANNING AT THE, AT THE FRONT END, BUT YOU CAN ABSOLUTELY DO IT WITH, UM, WITH A MIXTURE OF, OF DIFFERENT TOOLS SO THAT YOU HAVE AFFORDABILITY AND THEN OF COURSE, DENSITY, RIGHT? SO IF YOU'RE TEARING DOWN SOMETHING THAT WAS NOAH AND WAS TWO STORIES AND HAD A HUNDRED UNITS, AND THEN YOU ALLOW THERE TO BE 300 UNITS OR 400 UNITS, THEN YOU CAN HAVE A DOOR TO DOOR REPLACEMENT AND HAVE IT STILL BE MIXED INCOME.

UH, ON A STANDALONE HOMES.

UM, I, AGAIN, I, I AGREE WITH WHAT COUNCILMAN JUSTICE SAID ABOUT LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, AGENT IN PLACE AND WHAT THAT MEANS.

UM, THE PIECE I WOULD ADD TO THAT IS WHEN WE LOOK AT THAT, HOW DO WE IN ENSURE THAT ONE, WHEN WE CREATE THOSE AGENT IN PIECE IN PLACE, UM, TACTICS ARE HERE, HOW DO WE KEEP IT FROM, HOW DO WE ENSURE THAT IT'S RICHARDSON RESIDENTS ACTUALLY TRANSITIONING INTO THOSE SO THAT IT FIXES THE PROBLEM VERSUS JUST CREATING A NEW MARKET FOR PEOPLE FROM PLANO OR FOR FURTHER NORTH TO MOVE IN AND FILL THOSE, THAT NEW SPACE, RIGHT? IT, BECAUSE IF WE JUST CREATE NEW SPACE FOR PEOPLE FROM OTHER CITIES OR DALLAS TO MOVE IN, THEN IT DOESN'T TRULY FIX THE ISSUE, WHICH IT WAS CREATED TO FIX MM-HMM .

UM, WHICH IS THE, AS SHE WOULD SAY, AS SHE POINTED OUT, WHEN YOU MOVE PEOPLE IN PLACE, A LOT OF 'EM AGE IN PLACE, THEN THAT BRINGS MORE HOUSES INTO THE MARKET FOR THOSE FAMILIES.

UM, SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THAT, I WOULD, I WOULD CHALLENGE US AS A COUNCIL AND Y'ALL TO, TO LOOK AT, OKAY, HOW CAN WE ENSURE THAT IT DOES FIX THE ISSUE? UM, OR AT LEAST NOT NECESSARILY FIX IT, BUT ADD TO WORDS, UH, FIXING THAT THE, ON A SIMILAR STRATEGY, IT, YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT, YOU MENTIONED NOAH AND, UM, THIS, THIS CONCEPT, AND I KNOW, UM, MAYOR, I THINK IT WAS YOU, I HEARD ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE HAVE KIND OF SIMILAR TRAIN OF THOUGHT ABOUT, UM, THE LONGER AN OWNER KEEPS IT, THE MORE AFFORDABLE IT BECOMES, WHETHER IT'S ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE OR ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE, RIGHT? BECAUSE YOU NOW HAVE BIGGER PROFIT MARGIN, YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S CONSTANTLY FLIPS, THEN YOUR RENTS ARE CONSTANTLY GOING OUT BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO CREATE THE ROI.

UM, THAT'S TRUE ALSO ON THE SINGLE FAMILY, UH, UH,

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THEN PERHAPS SIDE NOTE, PERHAPS WE NEED TO LOOK AT THINGS LIKE THE, UM, HOME IMPROVEMENT INCENTIVES, BECAUSE THAT KIND OF WORKS AS THE OPPOSITE.

'CAUSE WHAT THAT HAS SEEMED TO HAVE DONE IS CREATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR TEAR DOWN AND CREATE ABIL, CREATE NEW BUILD VERSUS, UH, INCENTIVIZING TO KEEP THE OLD IN PLACE AND JUST REHABBING IT.

AND, UM, SO MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD LOOK AT WITH THAT SAME LENS, UM, IN THE FUTURE.

TO SUMMARIZE MY THOUGHTS, ABSOLUTELY.

I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT 50% BELOW MI THAT LOWER END.

UM, WHEN WE LOOK AT EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY, WHETHER IT'S A FACILITIES PERSON WHO SETS UP THESE TABLES FOR US EVERY MONDAY, OR, UM, GROUNDS WORKERS AT THE PARK, OR, YOU KNOW, A NUMBER OF, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS EVEN ORDERLIES OR THE PEOPLE WHO DO THE, THE LAUNDRY OVER AT, FOR MAYOR PRO TEMS HOSPITAL.

YOU KNOW, WE WANT THESE PEOPLE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS MAYOR PROTE MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, HE'S TALKED TO PEOPLE AND I HAVE NO DOUBT, UM, BUT WE LIVE ON VERY OPPOSITE SIDES OF THE CITY.

AND I KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE HEARD, UH, FROM NOT JUST THE RESIDENTS BUT BUSINESS OWNERS, IS WE DO HAVE TROUBLE ACCESSING THAT WORKFORCE.

AND WHEN I THINK WORKFORCE, I'M NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT TEACHERS AND FIREMEN, BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT THOSE PEOPLE MAKING 17, $18 AN HOUR WORKING AT THE LOCAL DELI.

UM, AND THE REALITY IS, SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE EITHER LIVE SOUTH OR SPRING VALLEY OR COME DOWN FROM FOREST AND 75 AND YOU KNOW, WHAT'S BRINGING 'EM UP TO RICHARDSON.

UM, SO WE NEED, WE NEED TO HAVE THOSE, THAT KIND OF WORKFORCE IN OUR BACKYARD.

IT'S, IT'S SMART BUSINESS.

IT'S SMART COMMUNITY.

UM, MY KEY, WHEN WE LOOK AT, I DO HAVE AN OPINION THAT WE NEED TO KEEP IT ALL ON THE TABLE.

OBVIOUSLY THERE'S THINGS ARE STRAIGHTFORWARD AS, AS Y'ALL POINTED OUT, AND YOU KNOW, ME NOT UNDERSTANDING ME.

I WAS STRUGGLING TO GRASP WHAT OPPORTUNITY ZONE 2.0 IS.

IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S FREE MONEY.

I DON'T, UH, THERE'S NO DOWNSIDE TO IT.

SO SOMETHING LIKE THAT IS AN EASY ASK.

UM, AS THINGS BECOME MORE COMPLEX, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, GO FOR THE LOW HANGING FRUIT FIRST.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK THE END ZONE FOR ME, THE, WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE AT THE END PRODUCT FOR ME IS WHAT ARE WE DOING TO DISPLACE THE LEAST AMOUNT OF PEOPLE, PROVIDE DI DIGNITY IN WHEREVER THEY CHOOSE TO LIVE, WHETHER THEY CHOOSE TO RENT OR WHERE THEY NEED TO RENT BY NECESSITY.

UM, AND IT PROVIDES, YOU KNOW, WORKFORCE TO, TO OUR BUSINESS.

UM, SO YES, LET'S PER LET'S LOOK AT WHAT WE CAN DO TO HELP SENIORS.

UM, THE ONE, AS FAR AS ANY THAT ARE OFF THE TABLE FOR ME, YOU KNOW, I WAS, I WAS, I WAS STRUGGLING WITH THE IDEA OF COMMUNITY LAND TRUST, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, BASED ON COUNCILMAN CORCORAN'S COMMENTS, UM, PERHAPS IT'S SOMETHING I JUST NEED TO RESEARCH A LITTLE FURTHER BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEXT TIME YOU TALK TO US.

MM-HMM.

UM, SO I WILL, I'LL LEAVE THAT AS AN AREA OF HOMEWORK FOR ME, UH, FURTHER HOMEWORK.

AND THERE'S JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE HERE TOO.

MM-HMM.

SO IN, IF YOU HAVE THE APPENDIX, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A EXPLANATION HERE TOO.

AND I, I DID READ THROUGH ALL THAT.

IT'S JUST TRYING TO THINK OF IT RIGHT NOW AND GO THROUGH EVERYTHING I READ OVER THE WEEKEND OR THE LAST WEEK.

UM, BUT THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M AT.

COUNCIL MEMBER BARRIOS, UH, MR. MAGNER, YOU HAVE A FEW THOUGHTS.

I DO.

THE THIRD WOULD BE EXPLORE ENTITLEMENT AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIES, UH, TO INCREASE MIDDLE MISSING HOUSING.

UM, SO IF I COULD, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS, UH, SUGGEST, UH, LET ME PLAY BACK.

IF YOU, IF YOU WOULD, LET ME PLAY BACK A COUPLE OF BULLETS HERE THAT I THINK, UM, HOPEFULLY I'VE CAPTURED THE, OUR HOMEWORK, UH, ACCURATELY.

AND LET'S ASSUME THAT THESE ARE CITYWIDE.

SO THERE'S, LET'S ASSUME THAT ALL OF THESE WOULD BE, WE WOULD LOOK AT CITYWIDE.

SO FIRST I'VE GOT, I THINK I'VE HEARD, UH, AND, AND, UH, I, I AGREE PARTICULARLY WITH THE RECENT CHANGES IN THE HFC LAW, BUT WHY DON'T WE BRING BACK A COUPLE OF STRATEGIES WITH THE PROS AND CONS AROUND THE FOLLOWING.

ONE, EXPLORE EITHER A PFC OR HFC FRAMEWORK THAT WOULD PROVIDE THE CITY WITH MAXIMUM FLEXIBILITY WHEN ENTERTAINING, AND THEN ULTIMATELY NEGOTIATING MIXED INCOME HOUSING STRATEGIES FOR RESIDENTS AT VARIOUS LEVELS OF A MI.

AND, AND AGAIN, THE BEAUTY BEHIND THIS FRAMEWORK WOULD BE THAT YOU WOULD DECIDE THAT ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS, WE WOULDN'T BE TRYING TO DECIDE TODAY WHETHER THAT'S 30, 50, 80, A HUNDRED, 120, YOU COULD DECIDE THAT ON THE MERITS OF THE INDIVIDUAL CASE THAT WE WOULD BRING YOU.

AND SO WE WOULD, WE WOULD, WE, THAT'S HOMEWORK NUMBER ONE.

NUMBER TWO WOULD BE TO EXPLORE BOTH ENTITLEMENT AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIES TO, TO HELP, UH, MAKE SURE THAT EXISTING RICHARDSON RESIDENTS, FIRST AND FOREMOST, UM, THAT OUR, UH, LOW INCOME SENIORS CAN SAFELY AGE IN PLACE.

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AND THAT COULD BE BOTH FOR THE TYPE OF HOUSING AND OR, UM, ALSO COULD INCLUDE THE AFFORDABILITY ELEMENT TO IT AS WELL.

UM, AND THEN THE FINAL WOULD BE, OBVIOUSLY WHEN WE'VE, WE'VE GOT THE GO AHEAD AND WE KNOW WHAT THE ZONES ARE, FOR SURE, TO GO AHEAD AND, UH, SEEK THIS OPPORTUNITY ZONE DESIGNATION AND, AND, AND ADVOCATE TO THE, TO THE GOVERNOR THAT WE RECEIVE AT LEAST ONE.

I THINK THAT, UM, AND MAUREEN, PLEASE WEIGH IN IF, AS, AS I GO THROUGH THESE, BUT AS I'M TAKING NOTES ALL, ALL HERE, I THINK THAT THIS IS, I FEEL LIKE THIS IS, IS, IS, UH, VERY RESPONSIVE TO THE CONSENSUS.

I HEARD WE WOULD, WE COULD BRING BACK, UH, YOU KNOW, A HANDFUL IF, IF WE DID, YOU KNOW, YOU'D HAVE SIX SET STRATEGIES OR SO WITH THE PROS AND CONS, PLUS THE SEVENTH BEING SEEK, OPERATE, UH, UH, THE, UH, EXCUSE ME, THE, UH, OPPORTUNITY ZONE.

AND, UH, THEN WHAT WE COULD ASK YOU TO DO IS TO KIND OF GO THROUGH A PRIORITIZATION EXERCISE, UM, AND HELP US KIND OF NARROW DOWN WHAT WOULD YEAR ONE LOOK LIKE, WHAT WOULD YEAR TWO LOOK LIKE.

UM, THERE ARE ALSO SOME, SOME LOWER HANGING FRUIT THAT WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT.

I'M NOT TRYING TO GET INTO EVERY, YOU KNOW, TOOL LOAN PROGRAM OR, YOU KNOW, VOLUNTEER ASSISTANCE PROGRAM CHANGE WE COULD MAKE.

BUT I THINK THESE WOULD BE, THESE ARE, THESE ARE SUBSTANTIAL, MEATY THINGS THAT WE COULD BRING YOU BACK THAT I THINK, UM, AT LEAST AS I LOOK AROUND, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST FIVE OR SO OF OF EACH OF YOU HAVE SAID THESE THINGS ARE IMPORTANT TO YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER BAREZ, YOU HAD A FOLLOW UP? YEAH.

I JUST HAVE SOME CLARIFI CLARIFICATION QUESTION, DON, ON THAT FIRST POINT, WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT THE MI AND, UM, BRINGING STUFF BACK TO THE COUNCIL INDIVIDUALLY, SO ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT BRINGING BACK INDIVIDUAL DEALS OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT INDIVIDUAL PLANS? RIGHT.

'CAUSE MY, MY CONCERN IS THE SUSTAINABILITY OF ANY PROGRAM FOR IT TO TRULY ACCOMPLISH.

SO LIKE, IF WE'RE SAYING, OKAY, WE'RE STILL GONNA LEAVE ON A DEAL, DEAL BASIS, AND IT'S ALL GONNA HAPPEN, YOU KNOW, THE REALITY IS THOSE DEALS HAPPEN IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

LIKE WHERE'S THE, BECAUSE OF THE DOLLARS, UM, INVOLVED WITH THAT.

WHERE IS THAT, I GUESS I THINK WE NEED TO SAY, OKAY, IF WE'RE GONNA APPROACH IT, WE SHOULD HAVE A CERTAIN GOAL TO SAY WE'RE GONNA HIT X AMOUNT BETWEEN 50 AND 80.

OR WE'RE GONNA SAY, LOOK, WE'RE GONNA AGREE THAT IT'S THAT ONE TO 80 AND WE'RE GONNA, UH, PUT IT ACROSS THE BOARD.

'CAUSE THE LAST THING I'D WANT IS FOR WHETHER IT BE THIS COUNCIL, THE NEXT COUNCIL OR FOUR COUNCILS DOWN THE ROAD IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, YOU KNOW, THE REALITY IS THEY'RE JUST, THEY'RE JUST KNOCKING THE STUFF DOWN, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO ACTUAL CREATING ANY, THE ACTUAL CHANGE WHEN IT COMES TO LOWER A MI RATES.

AND PERHAPS WE COULD, WE COULD HAVE SOME, SOME GUIDING PRINCIPLES THAT WOULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH THE FRAMEWORK.

SO I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THAT POINT.

WHAT I WOULD SAY TO YOU IS, UM, I THINK IT WOULD, YOU KNOW, I THINK, I THINK IT WOULD BE HARD TO BE, UM, TOO, UH, SPECIFIC AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

UM, YOU KNOW, EVERY, EVERY OPPORTUNITY THAT WE WOULD BRING YOU, EVERYTHING FROM, YOU KNOW, JUST THE RESIDUAL LAND VALUE TO WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT ARE THE THINGS COSTING AT THAT TIME? HOW MANY UNITS ARE GONNA BE, I MEAN, EVERY, EVERY DEAL IS SO UNIQUE, BUT SURE, I MEAN, THE, THE, THE, THE, THE GOAL, OR I THINK THE TASK HERE WOULD BE TO CREATE THE FRAMEWORK THROUGH ONE OF THESE, UH, EITHER A HOUSING FACILITY CORPORATION OR THE PUBLIC FACILITY CORPORATION, OR THE PUBLIC FINANCE CORPORATION, EXCUSE ME, TO BE ABLE TO CREATE THE FRAMEWORK.

AND WE COULD DEFINITELY HAVE SOME, SOME GOALPOSTS, IF YOU WILL, ALONG WITH THAT FRAMEWORK.

UM, BUT I WOULD JUST, I WOULD, I WOULD ARGUE THAT, YOU KNOW, I, I SAY THIS A LOT, YOU KNOW, MARIS OR IS PROBABLY TOO MUCH LATELY, BUT YOU KNOW, EVERY DEAL IS UNIQUE AND YOU HAVE TO BUILD A PLAN THAT'S RESPONSIVE TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THAT LAND COST? WHAT IS, HOW MANY UNITS ARE THEY GONNA PUT ON? YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW MUCH IS, YOU KNOW, TODAY VERSUS FIVE YEARS AGO OR FIVE YEARS FROM NOW, IS IT GONNA COST TO CONSTRUCT 250 UNITS THE SAME PLAN TWO DIFFERENT PERIODS OF TIME ARE GONNA COST TWO AND THEN, AND THEN THE COM THE MIX OF UNITS, RIGHT? AND THAT'S WHAT IS, SO THAT, THAT IS ONE THING THE LEGISLATURE DID RIGHT THIS TIME, IS THEY HAVE CREATED A FRAMEWORK FOR US NOW WHERE WE CAN NEGOTIATE, UM, THE, UM, WE CAN NEGOTIATE THE PERCENT OF UNITS THAT WE WON AT THE VARIOUS LEVELS OF A MI, WHERE PREVIOUSLY IT WAS, UH, AND, YOU KNOW, CONS, UH, COUNCILMAN CHISEL SAID THIS EARLIER.

HE IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

IT WAS SO SKEWED TO THE DEVELOPERS PREVIOUSLY.

I MEAN, FOR A MERE, YOU KNOW, 50% OF THE UNITS AT JUST AN 80% A MI, THEY WERE GETTING A HUNDRED PERCENT TAX ABATEMENT HMM.

ACROSS FROM ALL TAXING ENTITIES.

WE CAN NEGOTIATE THAT NOW, WE CAN SAY, NO, THAT'S, WE WON'T DO IT.

UM, UNLESS, YOU KNOW, THIS MANY, THIS NUMBER OF UNITS ARE AT THIS PERCENT A MI, THIS SO FORTH AND SO FORTH.

BUT I STILL THINK IT WOULD BE HARD TO BE TOO PRESCRIPTIVE THAT, THAT AT JUST GENERICALLY, BECAUSE EVERY DEAL WOULD, I MEAN, THERE MAY BE SOME DEALS YOU COULD, YOU WOULD, YOU WOULD SAY, LOOK, IT'S GONNA BE A VALUE PROPOSITION TO YOU.

YOU SAY, WELL, WE CAN'T GET, YOU KNOW, 40% AT 80%, BUT WE CAN GET 30%.

AND AT THIS POINT IN TIME, THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH, OR THAT'S A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

SO I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THE DESIRE TO HAVE SOME GOALPOSTS,

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BUT, YOU KNOW, IF I WERE YOU, I WOULD WANT THE LATITUDE TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT EACH DEAL YEAH.

AND DETERMINE ON ITS OWN MERITS, WHETHER IT WAS .

AND I WOULD, I WOULD AGREE, DON.

UM, I DEFINITELY, ONE, WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN BUSINESS FRIENDLY, AND AS THE RATE OF THINGS HAVE, THE COST OF THINGS HAVE GONE UP JUST THIS YEAR ALONE, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S RIDICULOUS.

UM, SO YEAH, IT WILL CONTINUE TO CHANGE AT A RAPID RATE.

SO, UM, BUT HAVING THAT FRAMEWORK IN PLACE, I THINK IS, IS IMPORTANT FOR THE TRANSPARENCY ASPECT AND TO MEET THE END GOALS.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE DON'T WANT TO TIE, UH, DEVELOPERS' HANDS TOO MUCH TO WHERE IT DOESN'T HAPPEN.

AND, UH, WE, WE WANNA REMAIN BUSINESS FRIENDLY.

SO THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE THE, THE IDEA OF THE FRAMEWORK AND KEEPING THAT IN THE BACK OF OUR MINDS.

I THINK WE ARE ON TO ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, WHICH IS A REPORT ON ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST.

JUST TO ADD ONE TINY THING AND WE CAN MOVE ON.

UM, I THINK, UH, THE, THE GREAT NEWS ABOUT THE PRESENTATION, SO THANK YOU AGAIN MAUREEN FOR, UH, LEVEL ONE OF THIS PRESENTATION.

UM, BUT I THINK THE, THE THING THAT'S GREAT ABOUT IT IS AS WE DO, UH, HAVE SCENARIOS WHERE WE ARE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION TALKING ABOUT ANYTHING THAT'S HOUSING RELATED, WE NOW HAVE, AT LEAST IN OUR MINDS THAT THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO BE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING IN EXCHANGE FOR ANYTHING THAT WE MIGHT DO IN TERMS OF INCENTIVES.

AND SO WHETHER THAT IS PERCENTAGES OF A MI AND THAT SORT OF THING, SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE, WE CAN SHARE WITH DON, YOU KNOW, WHAT OUR FEELINGS ARE, UH, ON THAT SORT OF THING, SO THAT AS YOU'RE QUEUING THINGS UP, RIGHT, UH, WE CAN BUILD, UH, ANY KIND OF INCENTIVE WITH THOSE SORTS OF, UH, IDEAS IN PLACE.

UM, SO THAT WE AT LEAST HAVE THAT AS, AS NEGOTIATION POINTS OR THINGS THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT.

SO, UH, GREAT.

I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT YOU COME BACK WITH.

THAT'S GREAT.

THANK YOU AGAIN, MAUREEN.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

ALRIGHT,

[9. REPORT ON ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST]

MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHIN RIDER.

UM, JUST TWO THINGS REAL QUICKLY.

NUMBER ONE, UM, REALLY WANT TO, UH, THANK UTD AND THE ENTIRE STAFF FOR INVITING ALL OF US OUT TO MEET, UM, PRESIDENT MOGE, THE NEW PRESIDENT OF UTD REALLY APPRECIATED THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT, UM, UM, THE UTDS VISION, OUR VISION AND, AND WHERE WE MELD AND WHERE WE CAN WORK COLLABORATIVELY TOGETHER.

SO, JUST WANNA THANK UTD FOR THAT OPPORTUNITY.

AND THEN, UM, ALSO WANNA THANK UTD AGAIN FOR INVITING US TO THE, UM, SILVER LINE.

UM, SILVER LINE'S NOW UP OPERATIONAL.

UM, THERE'S BEEN QUITE A NUMBER OF CELEBRATIONS OVER THE LAST LITTLE WHILE FOR THE FORS SILVER LINE BECOMING UP A PART OF OUR COMMUNITY.

UM, IT'S, UM, I, I JUST A COUPLE OF NOTES IS IT'S ABOUT 10 YEARS AHEAD OF WHEN I KNOW ORIGINALLY WHEN I MOVED TO TOWN WHEN IT WAS BEING DISCUSSED, IT WAS REALLY DISCUSSED THAT IT POSSIBLY WOULD COME ON BOARD SOMETIME AROUND 2036.

AND HERE WE ARE, IT'S UP AND IT'S OPERATIONAL AND IT'S RUNNING AS WE SPEAK.

SO, UM, HUGE THANK YOU TO, UM, NAING, NAING, UH, LEE, THE CEO, AND, UM, UM, GARY SLAGEL, UM, FORMER MAYOR AND THE CURRENT, OR I GUESS HE JUST WENT OFF AS CHAIRMAN OF DART.

APPRECIATE ALL OF THEIR EFFORTS IN MAKING IT HAPPEN.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, MAYOR PROAM.

UH, COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE.

UH, YEAH, JUST, UH, ON, ON THAT NOTE, I WANTED TO, UM, APOLOGIZE FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO MAKE THE, THE MINI RIBBON CUTTINGS THIS WEEKEND.

I HAD PREVIOUS PLANS, UH, MISSED THE UTD EVENT FOR, FOR BEING AT THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS AND HAD PREVIOUSLY, UH, HAD, UH, PLANS FOR OUT OF TOWN TRAVEL.

SO I WAS DISAPPOINTED TO MISS IT, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING ON THERE AND WRITING IT AND SEE HOW, SEEING HOW AWESOME IT IS.

UM, I WANNA THANK THE DIALOGUE INSTITUTE FOR THEIR FIRST RESPONDERS, UH, DINNER, UH, THAT THEY HAD LAST WEEK.

UH, THEY RECOGNIZED ONE OF OUR AMAZING 9 1 1, UM, OPERATOR DISPATCHERS, UH, OMEGA WAYNES.

UM, SHE, YOU KNOW, WAS REALLY GRACIOUS AND, AND HAD A LOT OF REALLY GREAT COMMENTS, UM, ABOUT HER THAT NIGHT.

AND IT WAS WONDERFUL, THE DIALOGUE INSTITUTE, UH, EVERY YEAR TO, UM, RECOGNIZE A FIRST RESPONDER, BUT PARTICULARLY THIS YEAR TO RECOGNIZE, UM, OUR NINE ONE ONE, UH, CALL CENTER FOLKS.

UH, AND THEN FINALLY, THANK YOU TO LINDSAY, UH, FOR PUTTING ON A GREAT FALL, UH, FALL LEADER NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERSHIP WORKSHOP, UH, LAST WEEK.

THEY'RE ALWAYS, UH, FANTASTIC GETTING, JUST GETTING TO TALK TO ALL THE DEPARTMENTS AND, AND SEE ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORS IN ONE PLACE.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR, YOUR GOOD WORK ON THAT.

COUNCIL MEMBER CORCORAN, UH, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, BARRIO SIAN AND MYSELF WENT TO, UH, THE TEXAS COUNTERFEITERS ROCKTOBER FEST CHARITY EVENT EARLIER THIS WEEK.

AND IT IS ONE OF THE MOST FUN COMMUNITY EVENTS I'VE EVER GONE TO.

UM, WE'VE BEEN A COUPLE YEARS IN A ROW NOW, AND I JUST WANT TO, YOU KNOW, I WANNA THANK A, A SOMEWHAT, I'D SAY SOMEWHAT RANDOM ORGANIZATION FOR NOT ONLY INVITING US, BUT THEN ALSO FOR REALLY PUTTING THEIR TIME, ENERGY INTO OPENING THEIR DOORS TO THE COMMUNITY AND, AND DONATING TO ALL SORTS OF NONPROFITS.

IT WAS REALLY SPECIAL EVENT,

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EVENT COUNCIL MEMBER BARRIOS.

AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS GONNA MENTION.

THAT WAS, UM, TEXAS COUNTER FINS DONATE OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS THAT NIGHT, UH, TO FOUR DIFFERENT CHARITIES.

AND, UM, ONE WHICH IS NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART THAT DEALS WITH, UM, TEEN HOMELESSNESS, ACTUALLY, THE, SO THANK YOU TO TEXAS, UM, COUNTERFEITERS FOR THEIR AMAZING WORK IN THAT.

AND, UH, ANOTHER SHOUT OUT TO DART FOR AND UT DALLAS.

AND, UH, EVERYONE IN THE CITY OF RICHARD WHO WAS INVOLVED WITH, UM, CITY LINE, UH, GREAT CELEBRATIONS.

WE HAD THREE DAYS OF CELEBRATIONS, GOT TO RIDE TRAINS FOR THREE DAYS, AND IT WAS REALLY NEAT.

UM, AND SO GLAD, LOOKING FORWARD TO WHAT THAT'S GONNA JUST CONTINUE TO GROW AND IMPACT, UM, RICHARDSON IN A POSITIVE WAY.