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I CALL MEETING, UH, OF THE RICHARDSON CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER AT 6:00 PM UH,
[A. PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS AND VISITORS FORUM]
WE'LL START OFF WITH ITEM A, PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS AND VISITORS FORM.UH, WE, UH, HAVE, UH, TWO SPEAKERS THAT HAVE SIGNED UP FOR, UH, TO MAKE COMMENTS TONIGHT.
SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND READ THE, UH, INSTRUCTIONS.
ALL SPEAKERS SHOULD COMPLETE A COMMENT CARD AND SUBMIT IT TO THE CITY SECRETARY BEFORE THE MEETING BEGINS.
SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER THEY'RE RECEIVED.
WHEN YOUR NAME IS CALLED, PLEASE STEP TO THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
ALL SPEAKERS WILL BE LIMITED TO A MAXIMUM OF FIVE MINUTES AS INDICATED BY THE TIMERS.
WHEN THE SPEAKER TIMER BEEPS, THE SPEAKER SHOULD CONCLUDE THEIR COMMENTS PROMPTLY.
SPEAKERS MUST NOT PHYSICALLY APPROACH MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL OR STAFF AND SHOULD REMAIN AT THE PODIUM DURING THEIR COMMENTS.
SPEAKERS WITH HANDOUTS MUST PROVIDE THEM TO THE CITY SECRETARY FOR DISTRIBUTION.
SUBMITTING COMMENTS ON THE SAME TOPIC ARE ENCOURAGED TO REDUCE REPETITIVE REMARKS BY INDICATING THEIR COMMENTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN ADDRESSED, OR BY SELECTING A REPRESENTATIVE SPEAKER.
THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT PROHIBITS THE COUNCIL FROM DISCUSSING OR TAKING ACTION ON ITEMS THAT ARE NOT POSTED ON THE AGENDA.
CITY COUNCIL AND CITY STAFF WILL NOT AFFIRM OR OPPOSE ANY SPEAKER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.
THE MAYOR OR MANAGER MAY RESPOND WITH FACTS OF POLICY OR DIRECT CITY STAFF TO RESPOND TO THE SPEAKER.
AFTER THE MEETING, THE AUDIENCE IS ASKED TO REFRAIN FROM APPLAUDING OTHER EXPRESSIONS OF SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION, A COPY OF THE COUNCIL RULES OF ORDER AND PROCEDURE, AND THESE GUIDELINES MAY BE FOUND ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE.
AT THIS TIME, I'D ALSO LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE TO SILENCE THEIR CELL PHONES FOR THE DURATION OF THE MEETING.
MS. EMER, MAYOR, WE HAVE TWO SPEAKERS TONIGHT.
THE FIRST ONE IS MARCUS BATSON.
DO I PRESS ANYTHING NOW? UNMUTE.
UH, MARCUS BENSON, 3, 4 7, 4 HERITAGE PLACE.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO START BY SAYING THANK YOU FOR THE GALLATIN PARK CLEANUP.
I'VE NOTICED THAT IN THE RECENT MONTHS THAT THE PARK HAS BEEN A LOT CLEANER.
THERE'S A LOT LESS CRASH THROUGHOUT THE PARK, AND THE PARKS DEPARTMENT SEEMS TO HAVE GONE THROUGH, AND EVEN I EXTRA TRASH CANS.
AND RELATED TO TONIGHT'S AGENDA TOPIC, I GUESS I'M, UH, LOOKING FORWARD TO SEE WHAT THE HELP TEAM HAS BEEN WORKING ON AND TO OVERALL IMPROVE THE, THE SITUATION FOR THE UNHOUSED SLASH HOMELESS PEOPLE THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF RICHARDSON.
UH, AND THEN I JUST WANNA CLOSE BY ASKING ABOUT THE, INCLUDING SIDEWALKS AND THE UPCOMING BOND PROPOSAL.
CARLY STERN, 6 1 3 CAMBRIDGE DRIVE, 7 5 0 8 0.
AND I'M JUST GONNA EXPOUND UPON WHAT, UM, MARK SAID.
I HAVE LED A LOCAL LITTER CLEANUP GROUP INITIATIVE CALLED PICKUP AND PIPES, AND WE MEET EVERY OTHER MONDAY EVENING NEAR CITY LINE, CLEAN FOR ABOUT AN HOUR, AND THEN ENJOYED DISCOUNTED BEVERAGES AT THE WHOLE FOODS ON CITY LINE.
AND OVER THE LAST YEAR, WE'VE PRIMARILY FOCUSED OUR EFFORTS AROUND SPRING CREEK AND GALLATIN PRESERVE.
I'VE REPORTED OUR DATA TO THE RICHARDSON HEALTH DEPARTMENT, AND EACH WEEK WE COLLECT ABOUT A MINIMUM OF 25 TO 30 POUNDS.
BUT A FEW WEEKS AGO, IT WAS OVER 90 POUNDS.
AND OVER THE LAST YEAR, WE'VE WEIGHED IN AT 600 POUNDS IN JUST ONE YEAR.
AND THAT IS JUST MAINTAINED IN THOSE TWO AREAS.
UM, LIKE I SAID, OUR PRIOR WE'RE PRIMARILY FOCUSED ON THE GALLATIN PRESERVE, WHERE CLOTHING AND SANITARY ITEMS AND OTHER PARAPHERNALIA, UH, HAVE BEEN STREWN ABOUT.
AND EVERY MONDAY WE WOULD RETURN TO THE SAME HOTSPOTS OF NEGLECTED PICNIC TABLES AND ABANDONED ENCAMPMENTS, AND THEY WOULD BE JUST AS LITTERED AS BEFORE.
BUT AMOUNT, ABOUT A MONTH AGO, WE ARRIVED TO THE PRESERVE AND THE BRUSH WAS MIRACULOUSLY CLEARED.
AND, UM, I LEARNED THAT THIS WAS ACTUALLY A DOING, UM, DOING OF THE CITY.
AND SO I REALLY WANTED TO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, FOR CLEARING THAT BRUSH AND MAKING INCREASING VISIBILITY BECAUSE SINCE THEN IT'S MADE IT NOT ONLY EASIER TO CLEAN, BUT IT HAS CLEARLY DETERRED FUTURE ENCAMPMENTS.
AND ANYWAY, YES, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS AREA.
SEVERAL PASSERBYS HAVE ALSO STATED THAT THEY'VE NOTICED SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS AND HAVE EXPRESSED THEIR APPRECIATION.
I THINK GALLATIN IS AN EXAMPLE OF A TRAIL THAT WAS UNDERUTILIZED BY OUR COMMUNITY.
AND NOW BECAUSE OF YOUR EFFORTS AND OF OUR VOLUNTEERS WHO SHOW UP WEEKLY, UM, IT OFFERS A MORE ENJOYABLE AND PEACEFUL EXPERIENCE.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO GIVE THIS LEVEL OF ATTENTION AND MAINTENANCE TO OTHER AREAS OF CONCERN, SUCH AS THE CENTRAL TRAIL NEAR SPRING VALLEY STATION, WHERE A WOMAN WAS RECENTLY ASSAULTED.
UM, I HOPE THAT THE CITY CAN WORK CLOSELY WITH DART POLICE, OBVIOUSLY RICHARDSON POLICE AS WELL, AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO FIND LONGER TERM SOLUTIONS REGARDING SAFETY AND CLEANLINESS IN OUR PUBLIC SPACES.
I'M VERY MUCH LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING, UH, ABOUT THE DISCUSSIONS, UPDATES, AND PLANS FOR HELPING THE UNHOUSED COMMUNITY BECAUSE THEIR WELLBEING IMPACTS ALL OF US.
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YOU.IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT IS LOOKING TO SPEAK THIS EVENING? ALRIGHT,
[B. REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE CITY'S UNHOUSED INITIATIVES]
SEEING NONE, WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM B.UH, REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE CITY'S UNHOUSED INITIATIVES.
UH, EXCITED TONIGHT TO WELCOME RILEY THOMASON, AS WELL AS CHIEF TITTLE.
UM, AND, UH, CHIEF IS GONNA INTRODUCE, UH, UH, OFFICER GE, JEREMY SAVAGE SHORTLY HERE, UH, AS WELL ALL, UH, HAVE BEEN WORKING, UM, IN HIGH COLLABORATION, UH, TO ENHANCE, UM, OUR UNHOUSED STRATEGY.
AND SO, UH, WHAT I'VE ASKED RILEY TO DO IS TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME OF THE REGIONAL EFFORTS THAT, UH, WE HAVE, UH, REALLY BECOME, UH, MORE INVOLVED IN, UH, PARTICULARLY WITH YOUR DIRECTION BACK IN 23 FOR US TO, TO REACH OUT AND, UH, AND REALLY BECOME PART OF A REGIONAL DISCUSSION AROUND THIS IMPORTANT TOPIC.
AND THEN I'VE ASKED, UH, CHIEF AND OFFICER SAVAGE TO KIND OF DO A LITTLE BIT OF A DEEP DIVE AROUND OUR HELP PROGRAM AND, UH, SOME THINGS THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON IN ADVANCE OF, UM, OF THE, UH, WORLD CUP NEXT YEAR AND ANY ISSUES THAT, UH, MIGHT, UH, ARISE OUTTA THAT SUCH AS DISPLACEMENT.
SO, RILEY, IF YOU WANNA HEAD TO THE PODIUM, I'LL HAND IT OFF TO YOU TO, TO START OUR BRIEFING TONIGHT.
AND THANK YOU MR. MAGNER, FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK THIS EVENING.
YOU CAN UNPLUG THAT THIS TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES.
SO THIS BRIEFING SUPPORTS THE COUNCIL'S GOAL TO HAVE RESIDENTS AND ALL STAKEHOLDERS CHOOSE RICHARDSON AS THE BEST PLACE TO LOCATE, CONTRIBUTE, AND ENGAGE.
IT ALSO ADVANCES THE COUNCIL'S STRATEGY TO PROTECT AND PROMOTE INNOVATIVE INTEGRITY AND VITALITY PROGRAMS TO SUPPORT NEIGHBORHOOD DESIRABILITY AND ENCOURAGE REINVESTMENT.
TO BEGIN, I'D LIKE TO PROVIDE A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE CITY'S REGIONAL INVOLVEMENT IN TWO KEY HOMELESS COALITIONS, STARTING WITH THE ALL NEIGHBORS COALITION FACILITATED BY HOUSING FORWARD.
SO FIRST, A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON HOUSING FORWARD.
SO, HOUSING FORWARD IS A NONPROFIT AGENCY THAT LEADS THE REGIONAL EFFORT TO MAKE HOMELESSNESS RARE, BRIEF, AND NON-REOCCURRING ACROSS DALLAS AND COLLIN COUNTY.
THE ORGANIZATION PARTNERS WITH SERVICE PROVIDERS THROUGHOUT THE REGION TO COORDINATE DATA THROUGH THE HOMELESS MANAGEMENT INFORMATION SYSTEM, AND IT ALSO MANAGES AND OVERSEES THE ANNUAL POINT IN TIME COUNT HOUSING FORWARD'S WORK IS GUIDED BY THE ALL NEIGHBORS COALITION, WHICH IS A NETWORK OF MORE THAN 150 NONPROFITS, MUNICIPALITIES, AND VARIOUS HEALTHCARE ORGANIZATIONS THAT COLLABORATE WITH THE GOAL TO END HOMELESSNESS ACROSS BOTH DALLAS AND COLLIN COUNTIES.
AND THE CITY OF RICHARDSON, AS MR. MAGNUM MENTIONED, UM, BECAME A MEMBER OF HOUSING FORWARD'S ALL NEIGHBORS COALITION IN 2023, WHICH HELPED US STRENGTHEN OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH REGIONAL LEADERS AND ACCESS TO SHARED DATA AND BEST PRACTICES.
SO IN ADDITION TO THE ALL NEIGHBORS COALITION, THE CITY OF RICHARDSON ALSO PARTICIPATES IN THE COLLIN COUNTY HOMELESS COALITION.
THIS COALITION SUPPORTS DIRECT SERVICE PROVIDERS AND SHARES VITAL INFORMATION AND RESOURCES TO ADDRESS HOMELESSNESS SPECIFICALLY WITHIN COLLIN COUNTY.
THIS GROUP INCLUDES REPRESENTATIVES FROM OTHER MUNICIPALITIES IN COLLIN COUNTY, FAITH-BASED ORGANIZATIONS AND NONPROFITS WHO MEET MONTHLY TO DISCUSS REGIONAL CHALLENGES, EXCHANGE RESOURCES, AND COLLABORATE ON PROACTIVE SOLUTIONS.
BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO CHIEF TIDDLE FOR FURTHER BRIEFING, I'D LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW NEW AND ONGOING INTERNAL INITIATIVES AIMED AT ENHANCING AND STREAMLINING OUR HOMELESS RESPONSE EFFORTS HERE IN THE CITY.
SO THE FIRST IS A NEW INITIATIVE, UM, CALLED THE UNHOUSED INTERNAL COMMITTEE THAT WAS LAUNCHED THIS END OF SUMMER EARLY FALL WINDOW, AND IT SERVES AS A PLATFORM FOR INFORMATION SHARING AND COLLABORATION ACROSS DEPARTMENTS.
SO THIS GROUP, WE MEET MONTHLY AND EXCHANGE UPDATES.
WE DISCUSS EMERGING TRENDS, AND WE LIKE TO SHARE REGIONAL AND RELEVANT INSIGHTS FROM A LOT OF OUR DIFFERENT PARTNERS.
SO IT'S AN EFFORT TO TAKE WHAT WE'RE LEARNING AT THE REGIONAL LEVEL AND DISTRIBUTE IT TO ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENTS AND ALSO JUST LEARN FROM ONE ANOTHER IN OUR APPROACH.
BASED OFF OF FEEDBACK FROM THIS COMMITTEE, WE DEVELOPED A NEW RESOURCE TO HELP OUR CITY STAFF QUICKLY AND CONFIDENTLY CONNECT INDIVIDUALS SEEKING ASSISTANCE WITH THE MOST APPROPRIATE
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COMMUNITY SERVICES.AND YOU HAVE A HANDOUT OF THAT IN FRONT OF YOU.
SO THIS COMMUNITY RESOURCE GUIDE IS A TOOL DESIGNED TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR OUR CITY EMPLOYEES ACROSS ALL DEPARTMENTS TO PROVIDE A TIMELY AND INFORMED SUPPORT WHEN THEY ENCOUNTER ANY RESIDENTS IN NEED.
AND LASTLY, EACH YEAR THE CITY PARTICIPATES IN THE POINT IN TIME COUNT OR PIT COUNT, AS YOU MIGHT HEAR BE CALLED.
THIS IS AN ANNUAL ONE NIGHT CENSUS OF INDIVIDUALS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS THAT OFFERS AN IMPORTANT SNAPSHOT OF OUR REGION'S CURRENT NEEDS.
PARTICIPATION IN THE PIT COUNT IS VITAL TO ENSURING AGENCIES LIKE HOUSING FORWARD WHO OVERSEES THE PIT COUNT REGIONALLY, AS WELL AS OUR OWN POLICE DEPARTMENT, HAVE ACCURATE DATA TO BE ABLE TO TRACK HOMELESSNESS TRENDS AND RESPOND TO EVOLVING REGIONAL NEEDS AND DEVELOP STRATEGIES.
SO THE UPCOMING PIT COUNT, UM, JUST SO EVERYONE'S AWARE, IT WILL TAKE PLACE THIS JANUARY AND IT WILL BE FACILITATED BY HOUSING FORWARD, BUT WE WILL HAVE IT LOCALLY COORDINATED THROUGH THE RICHARDSON POLICE DEPARTMENT.
SO WITH THAT, I WILL LET CHIEF TITTLE CONTINUE THE BRIEFING, BEGINNING WITH AN UPDATE ON OUR RPD HOMELESS ENGAGEMENT LIAISON PROGRAM.
AND, UM, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TONIGHT.
UM, AS, AS WE TALK ABOUT THE HELP PROGRAM, UM, I, I JUST WANT TO RECOGNIZE OFFICER JEREMY SAVAGE AND, UM, OFFICER SAVAGE.
IT WAS THREE YEARS AGO, UH, THAT I WAS LEAVING THE PUBLIC SAFETY EXPO ON A SATURDAY AND MEET HIM AT THE, UH, AT THE GAS BUMPS.
AND, UM, HE BRINGS UP THE POINT OF RECOGNIZING THE INCREASE IN HOMELESSNESS IN OUR CITY.
AND SO AS WE HAVE FURTHER DIALOGUE, UM, I REALLY COMMEND JEREMY FOR HIS INSIGHT, HIS PASSION, HIS COMPASSION AS IT RELATES TO THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC.
SO, UM, KUDOS TO YOU, JEREMY, AND THANK YOU, AND I'LL BE LEANING ON YOU, UH, AS WE MOVE THROUGH THIS.
SO, UM, AT THE END OF, UH, 2022 IS WHEN WE CREATED THE HOMELESS, UH, OR THE HELP TEAM.
AND, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE, THE KEY WORDS IN THIS PARTICULAR TITLE IS THE WORD ENGAGEMENT, AND AS, AS WE WERE PITCHING IT AROUND, WHAT DO WE CALL, UM, THIS TEAM? AND IT TRULY IS ABOUT ENGAGING, UM, WITH THE UNHOUSED.
AND SO, UM, JUST RECOGNIZING THE NEED FOR THAT, RECOGNIZING THAT, UH, WHAT WE NEED IS TRULY, UM, AN ABUNDANCE OF RESOURCES THAT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE.
UM, AT THAT EARLY STAGES, WE UTILIZED A GROUP OF, UM, OUR CALLING OUT OF THE DOWNTOWN DALLAS AREA.
UM, THAT, UH, RESOURCE IS, IS NO LONGER AS PREVALENT AS IT HAS BEEN IN THE PAST.
UM, OF COURSE, WE ASSIST WITH POINT IN TIME AS IT RELATES TO THE HOMELESS COUNT THAT RILEY MENTIONED EARLIER.
UH, CERTAINLY WE, UM, ENCOUNTER THOSE, UH, THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, AND WE TRY TO DOCUMENT AND, UM, AND TRACK, IF YOU WILL, AS IT RELATES TO WHERE, UM, GATHERINGS ARE, WHETHER IT'S ENCAMPMENTS OR, UH, WHETHER IT'S PANHANDLING OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE.
UH, WE ALSO OFFER, UM, THE WARMING CENTER OUT OF THE, UH, RICHARDSON POLICE DEPARTMENT DURING THOSE VERY COLD, COLD WINTER, UM, NIGHTS.
UM, ALSO HAVE SOME COOLING CENTERS, UH, AS IT RELATES TO THE, UH, PD, UM, LOBBY AS WELL DURING THE EXTREME, UM, SUMMER MONTHS.
BUT ALSO LOOKING AT WHERE THOSE ENCAMPMENTS ARE AND FACILITATING WHETHER IT'S CITY RESOURCES OR DART RESOURCES, OR ENCOURAGING THE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS TO CLEAN UP WHAT IS ON THEIR PROPERTIES.
UM, MYSELF AND MR. MAGNER, UM, WERE, WERE ACTIVE AND RILEY HAS TAKEN ON SOME OF THAT RESPONSIBILITY AND, UM, GRACIOUS TO TO HER FOR THAT AS IT RELATES TO DALLAS COUNTY'S HOUSING FORWARD, AND OF COURSE, THE COLLIN COUNTY, UM, HOMELESS COALITION.
SO WHAT IS IT THAT THE HELP TEAM DOES? UM, A LOT OF TIMES THE HELP TEAM REALLY, UH, HERE RECENTLY HAS BEEN FACILITATING, UH, IDENTIFYING LOCATIONS WHERE GATHERINGS ARE, WHETHER IT'S ENCAMPMENTS, WORKING WITH, UM, COMMUNITY SERVICES, WORKING WITH PARKS, UM, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WORKING WITH OTHER PD RELATED, UM, ENTITIES, WHETHER IT'S INVESTIGATIONS, WHETHER IT'S OUR OWN COMMUNITY RELATIONS.
UM, AN EXAMPLE THAT WE HAD OVER, UM, THAT I WILL GIVE YOU OVER AT BELT AND MAINE WHERE, UM, HOMELESS PERSONS WERE, UH, BREAKING INTO THE COMMON AREAS OF THAT LOCATION.
AND THROUGH AN ASSISTANCE OF COMMUNITY RELATIONS, INVESTIGATIONS MANAGEMENT,
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SO ON AND SO FORTH, WE WERE ABLE TO, UM, IMPROVE THAT SCENARIO, THAT SITUATION.UM, ALSO, UH, HELP OFFICERS WILL RIDE THE DARK TRAIN, UM, IDENTIFY SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT ARE COMING AND GOING FROM THE DARK TRAIN AND WHETHER IT'S AROUND THE STATIONS, UM, WHAT HAVE YOU.
UM, ALSO IDENTIFYING AND CONTACTING, UM, PANHANDLER ON THE MEDIANS, UH, TRYING TO BE PROACTIVE AND AGAIN, USING THAT WORD, ENGAGE THEM, UM, TO IDENTIFY, UH, ISSUES THAT THEY MAY BE HAVING AND, AND MOVING FORWARD FROM THAT.
SO, STATISTICS, UM, JUST TAKING A LOOK AT THIS, AND YOU'VE SEEN SOME OF THESE SLIDES, A COUPLE OF THESE SLIDES IN MY ANNUAL PRESENTATIONS.
UM, 2023, WE HAD A COUNT OF 256 HOMELESS CONTACTS.
UH, WE ACTUALLY CLEANED UP 32 ENCAMPMENTS IN THE CITY, AND THAT POINT IN TIME COUNT, UM, WAS SIMPLY SEVEN AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME.
MOVING FORWARD TO 2024, WE HAD, UM, A LESSER AMOUNT THERE AT 2 29, A LESSER AMOUNT OF ENCAMPMENTS FROM 32 TO 13, AND, UH, AN INCREASE FROM SEVEN TO 13 ON THAT POINT IN TIME COUNT.
BUT THEN WE GO TO YEAR TO DATE, AND AT THIS POINT, YEAR TO DATE, WE HAVE, UM, CONTACTED AND CALLS FOR SERVICE, UH, JUST OVER 1400 INDIVIDUALS AS IT RELATES TO, UH, CONTACTS.
NOT 1400 INDIVIDUALS, BUT 1400 CONTACTS, UH, AS IT RELATES.
SO SEVERAL OF THOSE, MANY OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS ARE REPEAT CONTACTS.
SO WHERE IS THIS HAPPENING IN OUR CITY? UM, YOU SEE THAT REALLY EVERY SPACE IN THE CITY, UM, IS, UH, ENCOUNTERING THE HOMELESS ISSUE.
UM, BUT IT'S, AS JEREMY CALLS IT, AS THE INVERTED T OR THE UPSIDE DOWN T GOING ALONG THE, UM, SPRING VALLEY, BUT ALSO ALONG 75.
AND WHAT ELSE IS ALONG 75 IS THE DART RAIL.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE SEE A HIGH, HIGHLY DENSE CONCENTRATION OF, UH, ENCOUNTERS AND, UH, SOME OF THAT FROM THE ENCAMPMENT SIDE OF THINGS, BUT ALSO SOME OF THAT AS IT RELATES TO PANHANDLING AND GATHERING AND SLEEPING AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
JUST A FEW PHOTOS OF, UM, ENCAMPMENTS THAT ARE BEFORE AND AFTER, IF YOU WILL.
YOU SEE ONE THERE AT EAST ARAPAHOE ROAD, ANOTHER ON NORTH, UH, INTERURBAN, AND THEN ONE AT 101 WEST RENTER, WHICH IS A DART PROPERTY.
SO ONE OF THE TOOLS THAT WE HAVE IS THE CRIMINAL TRESPASS AFFIDAVIT PROCESS.
AND SO OUR COMMUNITY RELATIONS TEAM, UM, THEY WILL ENGAGE WITH BUSINESSES AND SOME PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS, UM, WHERE INDIVIDUALS WILL GATHER.
AND WE HAVE A CRIMINAL AFFIDAVIT PROCESS OR CRIMINAL TRESPASS AFFIDAVIT, UM, PROCESS THAT, UH, THE PROPERTY OWNER WILL PROVIDE A WRITTEN AND NOTARIZED, UM, AUTHORITY FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO CRIMINALLY TRESPASS THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE ON THE PROPERTY, WHETHER THEY'RE SLEEPING, WHETHER THEY'RE PANHANDLING, UH, CREATING ANY TYPE OF DISRUPTION TO THE BUSINESS.
WE THEN HAVE THE AUTHORITY, UM, FROM THAT PROPERTY OWNER TO MOVE THOSE INDIVIDUALS ALONG.
UM, IF THEY DO NOT MOVE ALONG, THEN WE WILL HAVE THAT, UM, THAT RIGHT OR THAT POWER TO MAKE THAT CLASS BE CRIMINAL TRESPASS ARREST.
UM, VERY SELDOM DO WE HAVE TO UTILIZE THAT SIMPLY BECAUSE WHEN WE ENGAGE WITH THEM, UM, THEY WILL, THEY WILL MOVE ALONG, UM, UNDER THOSE SCENARIOS, UH, RIGHT NOW THERE ARE ABOUT 60 BUSINESSES THAT HAVE THAT CRIMINAL TRESPASS AFFIDAVIT ON FILE, SO OTHER TOOLS OF ENFORCEMENT.
UM, WE HAVE THE TEXAS PENAL CODE, UH, PROHIBITED CAMPING, UM, THE RICHARDSON CITY ORDINANCE OF SLEEPING IN PUBLIC AS IT, UH, RELATES TO SIDEWALKS, ALLEYWAY, STREETS, OR CITY PARK.
UM, WE ALSO HAVE A SOLICITATION PERMIT WITHOUT A PERMIT, UM, UH, AS A ENFORCEMENT TOOL.
BUT KEEPING IN MIND SOME OF THE BACK AND FORTH AS IT RELATES TO HIGHER COURTS AND HOW SOME OF THESE RULES, UM, AS IT RELATES TO SLEEPING IN PUBLIC CAMPING AND CURFEWS HAVE BEEN INTERPRETED BY OUR HIGHER COURTS AND JUST RECOGNIZING THOSE CHALLENGES AS WELL.
SO AS WE MOVE FORWARD INTO 2026, UM, WE OBVIOUSLY KNOW THAT WORLD CUP IS COMING, UM, TO THE NORTH TEXAS REGION, UM, TO NORTH AMERICA.
UH, IN SUMMER OF 26, WE ANTICIPATE A, A LARGE, UM, ENGAGEMENT FROM THE CITY OF DALLAS, AND WE
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ANTICIPATE THAT SOME OF THAT, UM, MOVEMENT OUT OF THE CITY OF DALLAS WILL COME INTO OUR CITY AS IT RELATES TO UTILIZING THE DARK RAIL, UM, AND UTILIZING SOME OF, UM, THOSE, THOSE QUIET PLACES IN OUR CITY.UM, THAT BEING SAID, WE, UM, CERTAINLY WILL WORK WITH DART PD TO BOLSTER THEIR PRESENCE ON OUR PLATFORMS, UM, AND WE WILL WORK WITH DART AS IT RELATES TO SOME OF THEIR PROPERTY.
UM, KEEPING THAT IN MIND, UM, PRIOR TO THE SETTING OF, OF THIS, UM, PRESENTATION, WE HAVE A MEETING WITH DARK COMMAND STAFF SCHEDULED FOR A WEEK FROM TOMORROW TO DISCUSS THIS TOPIC, BUT ALSO OTHER TOPICS TO SEE HOW WE CAN, UM, CONTINUE OUR PARTNERSHIP TOGETHER.
UM, WE WILL CERTAINLY CONTINUE THE COLLABORATION AS RILEY REFERENCED THE INTERNAL CITY OF RICHARDSON DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE, UM, NEWLY COLLABORATING.
NOT THAT WE DIDN'T BEFORE, BUT WE'RE COMING TOGETHER AS A UNIFIED TOPIC AS IT RELATES TO THIS.
UM, JUST EARLIER IN THE DAY, I RECEIVED A, UM, AN EMAIL THAT WAS PASSED ALONG BY SEAN ROGERS OF PARKS, UM, REFERENCING SOME COMPLIMENTS AS IT RELATES TO AREAS BEING TRIMMED BACK THAT WE HEARD FROM CARLY EARLIER, UH, AS, AS IT RELATES TO, UM, A SPEAKER, BUT ALSO LOOKING AT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING TOGETHER WITH PARKS BEING OUT THERE, BEING OUR EYES AND EARS AS WELL.
THEY'RE HELPING US IDENTIFY THINGS AND WE'RE RESPONDING AND, AND VICE VERSA.
AND SO WE SEE SOME GOOD BENEFITS AND LOOK FORWARD TO THAT CONTINUED COLLABORATION WITHIN THE CITY DEPARTMENTS, UM, TO FURTHER OUR EFFORTS.
LAST SLIDE, JUST LOOKING AT SOME OF THE RESOURCES, AND YOU SEE THAT THE MAJORITY OF THOSE RESOURCES ARE RIGHT HERE IN-HOUSE.
UM, AS I REFERENCED, PARKS, CODE ENFORCEMENT, COMMUNITY SERVICES, UH, WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT DART, UM, RILEY MENTIONED, UH, HOUSING FORWARD AND CERTAINLY SALVATION ARMY OUT OF, UH, PLANO AND DALLAS, AND ALSO UTILIZING METHODIST RICHARDSON.
UM, AS IT RELATES TO METHODIST RICHARDSON, AND I'LL, I'LL SPEAK ABOUT THIS JUST FOR A MOMENT.
UM, MOST RECENTLY IN THE BUDGET, YOU ALL, UM, AFFORDED US THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO OUT AND HIRE A MENTAL HEALTH SPECIALIST.
AND JUST TODAY WE HAVE POSTED THAT POSITION, UM, IN PART OF THAT JOB DESCRIPTION FOR THAT PARTICULAR POSITION.
WE RECOGNIZE THAT WILL BE SPECIFIC TO MENTAL HEALTH AND, AND OUR CRISIS INTERVENTION TEAM, BUT ALSO RECOGNIZING AND IN THAT JOB DESCRIPTION THAT THERE IS, UM, A REFERENCE AS IT RELATES TO WHEN WE NEED THAT MENTAL HEALTH SPECIALIST RELATED TO ENGAGING WITH THE HOMELESS.
WE WILL CERTAINLY HAVE THE EXPECTATION THAT THEY CAN HAVE SOME DUAL ROLES THERE.
UM, THAT BEING SAID, UM, I WILL STOP THIS PRESENTATION AND, UM, TURN IT OVER TO YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL FOR ANY DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS.
UH, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION, RILEY AND CHIEF TEL.
UM, UH, RILEY, I REALLY LIKE THE UNHOUSED INTERNAL COMMITTEE.
I THINK THAT THAT'S A GREAT IDEA JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ACROSS DEPARTMENTS, UM, AND REALLY UNDERSTANDING ALL THE INITIATIVES THAT ARE AVAILABLE.
UM, CHIEF TITTLE OR OFFICER SAVAGE, A QUESTION FOR YOU, SORT OF ABOUT THE HEALTH PROGRAM.
I LIKE THAT YOU STARTED AND YOU TALKED ABOUT HOW IT'S ABOUT ENGAGEMENT AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.
I'M CURIOUS IF YOU COULD TALK A LITTLE BIT, UM, ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SEVERAL SLIDES ON ENFORCEMENT, UM, AND FEWER ON, ON ENGAGEMENT, SO I'M WONDERING IF YOU CAN REALLY FOCUS ON WHAT THAT ENGAGEMENT LOOKS LIKE.
YOU KNOW, I KNOW SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO USE, UM, SOME OF THE, THE TOOLS THAT YOU HIGHLIGHTED TONIGHT, BUT I THINK PART OF THE HEALTH PROGRAM IS REALLY HELPING PEOPLE.
UM, AND SO CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW WHEN YOU ENGAGE WITH FOLKS, HOW YOU CAN CONNECT, HOW YOU CONNECT THEM, UM, YOU KNOW, SO THAT IT'S NOT JUST WE'RE NOT CRIMINALIZING HOMELESSNESS, RIGHT? SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO USE THOSE TOOLS, THAT'S NOT THE GOAL.
UM, SO CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW WE CONNECT FOLKS WITH, WITH RESOURCES? I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA START THE ANSWER ON THAT, AND THEN I'M GONNA PITCH IT TO JEREMY, UM, TO, TO HELP ME FINISH UP.
BUT, UM, YOU'RE, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
FIRST AND FOREMOST, HOMELESSNESS, JUST LIKE MENTAL HEALTH, UM, IT, IT'S NOT CRIMINAL, RIGHT? AND WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THAT NOW CAN MENTAL HEALTH AND CAN HOMELESS, UM, COMMIT CRIMES? ABSOLUTELY.
WE ALL RECOGNIZE THAT AS WELL.
BUT A LOT OF WHAT THE OFFICERS DO, AND IT'S NOT JUST FROM A HEALTH TEAM PERSPECTIVE, BUT IT'S ENGAGING THEM AND SEEING WHAT THEIR STORY IS, SEEING WHAT THEY NEED, SEEING IF THEY HAVE THE RESOURCES, A LOT OF TIMES, SEEING IF THEY WANT RESOURCES.
AND UNFORTUNATELY, A LOT OF TIMES WHEN THE OFFICERS ENGAGE WITH INDIVIDUALS ON THE STREET, THEY'RE SIMPLY NOT LOOKING FOR RESOURCES.
UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE OKAY WHERE THEY'RE AT, WHETHER IT'S BY ABSOLUTE CHOICE OR WHETHER IT'S BY SIMPLY, UM, HAVE LOST THEIR INITIATIVE OR THEIR DRIVE, UM, TO DO MORE THAN
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WHAT THEY'RE DOING.UM, BUT I WILL TELL YOU THERE, FOR A, A WHILE AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS, IN THIS HELP INITIATIVE, UM, WE WERE SUCCESSFUL WITH OUR CALLING, AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST NOT THERE, UM, WHERE WE USED TO BE.
AND IT'S, IT'S REALLY RELATED TO THEIR LACK OF RESOURCES, UM, AND PARTICIPATION IN THE RICHARDSON, UM, AREA RIGHT NOW.
UM, JEREMY, IF YOU DON'T MIND, IF YOU CAN ADD TO THAT.
SO FIRST OFF, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION BECAUSE WHEN WE FIRST STARTED THE HELP PROGRAM IN 2022, THAT WAS THE BIG DRIVING FORCE OF THAT.
AND IT WAS REALLY A TWO-PRONGED APPROACH IN THAT ONE THAT I HAD A HELPING HAND, AND I PARTNERED WITH ALL OUR CALLING, AND WE HAD THAT FOR ABOUT THE FIRST YEAR AND A HALF WHERE THEY WOULD COME OUT WITH ME AND DO MONTHLY RIDE-ALONGS.
UM, AND I WAS BRINGING RESOURCES INTO THE CITY, AND ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS, WE WERE ABLE TO CONTACT SOMEBODY, MEET SOMEBODY, AND PAIR THEM UP WITH SERVICES AND GET THEM OFF THE STREET THAT SAME DAY.
UH, AND AGAIN, AS THE CHIEF MENTIONED, WE, WE LOST THAT RESOURCE, AND THAT IS A SHORTCOMING RIGHT NOW, SO I DON'T HAVE THAT.
UM, AND NOW WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE ESSENTIALLY HANDING OUT RESOURCES THAT THE INDIVIDUAL HAS TO GO SEEK OUT, UH, INSTEAD OF BRINGING THE RESOURCES TO THEM.
SO DEFINITELY THAT'S A SHORTFALL THAT, THAT NEEDS, UM, ASSISTANCE FROM, FROM THE COUNCIL.
UH, THE SECOND SIDE OF THAT WAS THE ENFORCEMENT HAND.
SO I TRIED TO GO OUT WITH THE APPROACH OF I'M HERE TO OFFER SERVICES, AND IF THEY DIDN'T WANT MY SERVICES, UNFORTUNATELY, THEN I HAD TO ENFORCE THE LAW JUST TO KEEP THE CITY CLEAN, UH, AND THE RESIDENTS, UH, A SAFE PLACE FOR THEM.
YEAH, NO, I APPRECIATE THAT APPROACH.
I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S THE WAY TO HANDLE IT, RIGHT? IS TO, TO TRY AND OFFER, UM, A RESOURCE, UM, AS A FIRST RESORT.
UM, I, I GUESS CAN YOU EXPOUND A LITTLE BIT ON WHAT WE AS A COUNCIL CAN DO? ARE YOU LOOKING FOR OTHER PARTNERSHIPS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT THAT, THAT WE COULD HELP WITH TO, TO TRY AND FILL THE GAP FOR OUR CALL? THAT, THAT'S WHAT I NEED, IS I NEED A NEW PARTNERSHIP.
UM, AND I THINK THERE COULD BE FURTHER DISCUSSIONS ON WHO THAT COULD BE AND WHO SHOULD THAT BE.
UH, BUT I, I, WE NEED TO BRING THOSE RESOURCES INTO THE CITY, UH, TO PAIR THE UNHOUSED COMMUNITY UP WITH A PROGRAM THAT THEY CAN GET OFF THE STREET.
THANK, THANK YOU CHIEF TAYLOR AND RILEY, UH, FOR THE PRESENTATION.
YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M VERY HAPPY TO HEAR ABOUT THE HELP AND THE PIT PROGRAM.
AND I HAVE TO AGREE, YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE ENGAGEMENT.
YOU CAN'T LOOK AT THIS AS AN ONGOING PROBLEM AND PUSH IT OFF ONTO THEM.
I THINK THE UNHOUSED IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE VERY SERIOUSLY.
AND AS I'VE SPOKEN TO MANY PEOPLE, UH, YOU KNOW, BEING THE FIRST TIER CITY OF, UH, DALLAS, A LOT OF THAT, UH, HOME UN UNHOUSED HOMELESS IS COMING TO RICHARDSON.
AND THEN PLANO, IT'S INTERESTING THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS TONIGHT BECAUSE LITERALLY THIS, THIS PAST WEEK, I MET WITH THE OWNER OF, UH, A FEW OF THE BUILDINGS IN, IN MY DISTRICT, AND, AND I'M AT THE SPRING VALLEY.
UM, MY OFFICE RIGHT THERE, THIS IS PARKWAY OF SPRING VALLEY AND THE DARK.
AND, UH, THE GENTLEMAN OWNS MANY BUILDINGS AROUND THERE, AND I MET WITH HIM ON HIS SITE, AND HE WAS ASKING ME, AND THIS IS SPEAKING OF PARTNER POTENTIAL PARTNERSHIPS, UM, HE TOOK ME ON A LITTLE TOUR OF THE ARABIAN VILLAGE, AND, UM, AND WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE SEVEN 11 ACROSS THE STREET.
AND HE GOES, HE SAYS, AT NIGHT THE HOMELESS WILL COME INTO, THEY HAVE SORT OF A CORRIDOR BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS, UH, WITH RESTAURANTS AND OUTDOOR SEATING.
AND HE SAYS THAT THEY, THEY WILL COME IN, UM, THEY WILL BE CAUGHT SLEEPING THERE.
UH, THEY TAKE ALL THE CUSHIONS OFF THE CHAIRS, UH, THE BENCHES, AND HE SAYS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.
HE SAYS, I, I WANNA BE A GOOD PARTNER AND A GOOD CITIZEN.
HE SAYS, SHOULD I HIRE, UH, SECURITY? UH, I SAID, WELL, THIS IS A PUBLIC SPACE, THEORETICALLY, SO YOU, I I DON'T, I'M NOT QUITE SURE IF YOU CAN DO THAT.
AND I WANTED TO BRING THIS TO YOUR ATTENTION BECAUSE, UH, IT HAPPENS OVER AND OVER, ESPECIALLY IN THE, IN THAT AREA, AND I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT THAT AREA.
I KNOW IT HAPPENS ALL OVER RICHARDSON, BUT SPECIFICALLY THAT IS THE FIRST ENTRY POINT FROM, FROM THE DALLAS SIDE.
SO I GUESS THE QUESTION IN THAT IS, WHAT WOULD HE BE ABLE TO CONTRIBUTE OR HOW, WHAT KIND OF PARTNERSHIP WOULD SOMEONE LIKE THAT THAT, UH, HAS AN INVESTMENT IN THE CITY BE ABLE TO DO OR PROVIDE, UM, AND TO ASSIST WITH BETTERING THAT THE, THE AREAS THERE IN THE, IN THE BUILDINGS? SO I THINK FIRST AND FOREMOST, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER IS US GOING OUT AND VISITING WITH HIM AND GETTING EYES ON, UH, EXACTLY WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT, SEEING, UM, THE, THE PROPERTY LINES, IF YOU WILL, SEEING WHAT TYPE OF, UM, BENCHES
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AND, UM, EXTERIOR FURNITURE THAT HE MIGHT HAVE OUT THERE.ALSO RECOGNIZING WHETHER OR NOT, UM, HE HAS THAT CRIMINAL TRESPASS AFFIDAVIT IN PLACE WITH US AND DOING ALMOST AN ASSESSMENT AND THEN BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE HIM SOME MORE DIRECT, UM, FEEDBACK.
I'M HAPPY TO, UM, GIVE THE INFORMATION TO MR. MAGNER AND PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, UH, SOME COLLABORATION THERE.
UH, THANK YOU CHIEF AND THANK YOU RILEY FOR THE PRESENTATION.
UH, AND I DON'T HAVE TO REPEAT HOW IMPORTANT THIS DISCUSSION POINT IS.
I HAVE A QUESTION AND A COUPLE QUESTION.
IF YOU CAN GO ON SLIDE, UH, 12, AND WE CAN CLARIFY SOMETHING FOR ME.
THE MAP THAT SHOWS EVERYWHERE DOT, THIS IS LOCATION, ER TO DATE, 2025, IF I READ CORRECTLY.
SO THIS IS ONLY FOR 2025, CORRECT? IT DOES NOT INCLUDE ANYTHING FROM THE PAST 2024 OR 2023, RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT.
I MEAN, I WOULD THINK, OR MAYBE PEOPLE PROBABLY THINK THAT IT WOULD BE MAINLY ALONG 75 OR DARK, BUT IT'S NOT THE CASE.
IT'S LIKE PRETTY MUCH EVERYWHERE NOW.
NOW I HAVE COUPLE OTHER QUESTION.
UH, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE EXPLAINED HOW THE PROCESS WORKS, YOUR ENGAGEMENT, YOUR DEPARTMENT'S ENGAGEMENT OR HEALTH DEPARTMENT'S ENGAGEMENT WORKS, AND YOU HAVE SHOWN HOW MANY CONTACT YOU, THE OR THE TEAM HAS MADE, AND YOU HAVE EXPLAINED THAT HOW THE PROCESS WORKS.
UH, NOW, UH, COULD YOU GIVE A TYPICAL EXAMPLE THAT IF SOMETHING HAPPENS, SAY, OKAY, YOU KNOW, CONTACT HAPPENED OR SOMEBODY CALLED THE OFFICER WENT THERE AND DID THE, THE TEAM CAME IN, YOU KNOW, TALKED TO THE PERSON, AND THEN WHAT HAPPENED AFTER THAT? JUST TYPICAL EXAMPLE.
SO I'M GONNA GIVE YOU A COUPLE AND THEN JEREMY, I MAY ASK, UH, YOU TO ASSIST IN THIS.
BUT, UM, SO FIRST AND FOREMOST, OUR HELP TEAM, UM, THEY ARE ACTUALLY PATROL OFFICERS FIRST, AND THEY ARE HELP TEAMS SECOND.
AND SO AS WE SURVIVE, IF YOU WILL, ON SECONDARY ASSIGNMENTS, THAT HELP, UM, TEAM ASSIGNMENT IS REALLY SECONDARY TO THAT PATROL RESPONSE.
AND SO OFTENTIMES WHILE OFFICERS ARE SOMETIMES REACTIVE IN THAT SENSE AS IT RELATES TO ENGAGING WITH, UM, THE UNHOUSED, THE HOMELESS, THEN, UM, IF A, IF AN OFFICER WHO IS NOT AS WELL-VERSED AS ONE OF OUR HELP TEAM OFFICERS, UH, ENGAGES IN THAT, THEN THEY WILL CALL THEM OVER.
UM, WE'LL ASSESS AND HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THAT INDIVIDUAL.
WE'LL SEE IF THERE IS A NEED OR A DESIRE EVEN TO HAVE SOME OF THOSE RESOURCES, UM, EXPRESSED TO THEM.
AND THEN THAT CONVERSATION WILL LEAD INTO, AS JEREMY MENTIONED EARLIER, NOT THAT WE HAVE THOSE RESOURCES ON HAND, BUT SIMPLY WE'RE MAKING THAT REFERRAL TO THEM TO TAKE SOME TYPE OF PROACTIVE MEASURE ON THEIR OWN FOR THEM TO GO AND UTILIZE THAT RESOURCE.
YEAH, THANKS FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
UH, NOW DO YOU HAVE ANY DATA OR, UH, OR RECORD THAT YOU KNOW, THAT THOSE CONVERSATION RESULTED SOMETHING POSITIVE THAT, OKAY, WE HAVE SOME SUCCESS RATE THAT WE HAVE GIVEN ONE PERSON, UH, SOME RESOURCES, AND THAT PERSON UTILIZED THOSE RESOURCES AND, YOU KNOW, MET A DIFFERENT LIFE.
DO YOU HAVE ANY, ANY, ANY KIND OF RESOURCE THAT RECORD? WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE THOSE DATA DRIVEN NUMBERS, IF YOU WILL, BUT I THINK JEREMY CAN SPEAK TO SOME, UH, REAL LIFE EXAMPLES.
AND JEREMY, I'LL PITCH IT TO YOU ON THAT.
SO SIR, IF I CAN TAKE A MOMENT TO ANSWER YOUR PREVIOUS QUESTION, UM, WE ENCOUNTER HOMELESS PEOPLE ON TWO DIFFERENT FRONTS.
EITHER ONE IS PROACTIVELY WHERE I'M GOING OUT AND MEETING WITH THEM AND TALKING WITH THEM, UH, AND THAT'S THE BEST TIME TO ENGAGE THEM AND OFFER THEM SERVICES.
AND THAT'S WHEN THEY'RE, THEY'RE MOST RECEPTIVE TO THAT.
THE OTHER TIME WE'RE DEALING WITH HOMELESSNESS IS WHEN WE'RE GETTING A CALL FOR SERVICE.
AND, AND UNFORTUNATELY THAT'S THE WORST TIME TO ENGAGE THEM WITH RESOURCES BECAUSE IT'S RIGHT AFTER AN INCIDENT HAPPENED.
MAYBE THEY GOT INTO AN ARGUMENT WITH THE CLERK AT THE SEVEN 11, AND WE'RE TRYING TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO MOVE ALONG.
UM, SO OUR MOST COMMON CALLS FOR SERVICE WITH THEM ARE FOR DISTURBANCES WHERE THEY HAVE GONE SOMEWHERE, INTERACTED WITH THE GENERAL PUBLIC IN A STOREFRONT,
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MAYBE DIDN'T ACT APPROPRIATELY OR IN THE, IN THE SAME MANNERISMS THAT EVERYBODY ELSE WOULD, AND THEY GET CALLED ON, OR MAYBE THEY GOT DIRTY CLOTHES ON, OR THEY SMELL AND WE'RE GETTING CALLS ON THEM.UH, WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF WELFARE CHECKS, CHECK ON SOMEBODY BECAUSE THEY'RE LAYING ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD, UM, OR THEY'RE ROCKING BACK AND FORTH, OR JUST DOING SOMETHING SOMEWHAT ABNORMAL.
UM, AT THOSE TIMES, AGAIN, WE'RE NOT REALLY ENGAGING THEM ON RESOURCES.
I'M TRYING TO DO THAT MORE OF ON A PROACTIVE APPROACH WHERE WE'RE MEETING SOMEBODY WHEN THEY'RE IN A GOOD MENTAL STATE AND THEN TRYING TO CONVINCE THEM TO, TO, TO SEEK SERVICES.
UH, TO ANSWER YOUR SECOND QUESTION ABOUT DATA POINTS, UM, WHEN I WAS OUT WITH OUR CALLING, UH, THAT WAS THE RESOURCE AND THE HELPING HAND THAT I HAD WITH ME THAT COULD OFFER AND PAIR SOMEBODY UP WITH, UH, WITH SERVICES.
SO, YES, UH, ON A SEVERAL OCCASIONS WE'VE GOTTEN PEOPLE INTO, UH, DETOX CENTERS WHERE THEY HADN'T STRUGGLED WITH ALCOHOL, AND THEY WERE ABLE TO ACCEPT A PROGRAM OR A WORK ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.
UM, AND AGAIN, OUR CALLING HAD ALL THOSE RESOURCES.
OF COURSE, WE AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DO NOT HAVE THOSE RESOURCES.
I NEED THAT PARTNERSHIP TO ASSIST IN THAT AREA.
UH, NOW IF SOMETHING HAPPENED ALONG TEXT DOT AREA, UH, TEXT DOT RIGHT AWAY.
SO SAY FOR EXAMPLE, IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, 6 35 THAT ONE SIDE MAYBE REJECT ON OTHER SIDE IS, UH, DALLAS AND SOMETHING IS HAPPENING ON THE TOP OF THE BRIDGE.
UH, WHO'S, WHO'S, I MEAN, YOU DON'T PROBABLY GO INTO THOSE AREA BECAUSE THAT'S NOT OUR CITY PROBABLY, RIGHT? SO WE'RE, WE'RE RESPONDING, UH, THE RICHARDSON POLICE DEPARTMENT'S GONNA BE THE FIRST RESPONDER IN THE ENTIRE CITY.
UM, THAT INCLUDES ALL DART PROPERTY AS WELL.
WE'D BE THE FIRST ONES TO RESPOND TO THAT AND HOPEFULLY WOULD CALL DART OUT TO ASSIST, UH, AND THEY WOULD COME SECONDARY.
BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS, ALL ALONG 75, THE MAINTENANCE RESPONSIBILITY BELONGS TO TXDOT, BUT THE ENFORCEMENT AND SAFETY BELONGS TO THE RICHARDSON POLICE DEPARTMENT.
UH, NOW, UH, NOW THE DART, YOU SAID THAT, I SAW THAT ON THE SLIDE, YOU SAID THAT SOME OF THE OFFICERS THERE RIGHT ON DART, AND WHAT CAN YOU DO? I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, I MEAN, HOW MUCH RESPONSIBILITY OR HOW MUCH AUTHORITY OUR RRP D HAS TO DO ANYTHING ON THE DART RAIL.
SO, AND AGAIN, I THINK WE'RE JUST ENGAGING WITH THE HOMELESS ON THERE.
WE'RE NOT ENFORCING DART LAWS AND, AND, AND REGULATIONS.
IT'S JUST MORE ENGAGEMENT PURPOSES, JUST, UH, JUST THE CONVERSATION AND YES.
AND COUNCIL MEMBER ON THAT AS IT RELATES TO, IF THEY'RE IN OUR CITY AND IT IS A CITY OF RICHARDSON ORDINANCE VIOLATION, IF IT IS A STATE, UM, STATUTE VIOLATION, THEN WE HAVE ABSOLUTE AUTHORITY TO ENFORCE THAT.
NOW THE THINGS SUCH AS, UM, FAIR EVASION AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, WE WOULD CERTAINLY LEAVE THAT TO DART.
UH, NOW IF, BUT ANY, ANYTHING, ANY VIOLATION HAPPENED, DAR SHOULD DART POLICE SHOULD TAKE THE INITIATIVE AS, AS OFFICER SAVAGE SAID, WE ARE USUALLY THAT FIRST RESPONDER.
UM, IF IT IS AN INVESTIGATION OR IT NEEDS THEIR ASSISTANCE OR FOLLOW UP, UM, BASED ON THE SEVERITY OF THE ISSUE, WE WILL CERTAINLY PARTNER UP WITH THEM.
THEY WILL COME OUT AND JOIN US IN THAT INVESTIGATION.
UM, THEY ARE VALUABLE AS IT RELATES TO THE PLATFORMS PARKING LOTS, RETRIEVING VIDEO, UM, AND SOMETIMES EVEN CARRYING OUT THE FURTHER INVESTIGATION OF PARTICULAR CRIMES.
UH, WITH ALL THE RAPE GOING UP WITH THIS ENGAGEMENT AND YOU SEE MORE ACTIVITY ALONG WITHIN OUR CITY, DO YOU THINK YOU WOULD NEED MORE RESOURCES? MAYBE JUST NOT, YOU KNOW, ARE THOSE TWO ENTITY THAT YOU SEE THAT, UH, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE HOUSING, UH, FORWARD AND COLLIN COUNTY HOMELESS, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, ARE, ARE, ARE THEY'RE THE ONLY, I MEAN, THEY'RE THE ONLY TWO THAT YOU WORK WITH SO FAR, RIGHT? CORRECT.
AND, AND PREVIOUSLY OUR CALLING IS AS, UH, OFFICER SAVAGE HAS A REFERENCE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION DIRECTLY.
UM, WHAT'S THAT LOOK LIKE? UM, I, I THINK THAT'S FOR THE GREATER DISCUSSION.
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RARELY.I'VE GOT A COUPLE QUESTIONS ON YOUR REGIONAL COLLABORATION SLIDE THAT CAN BE BROUGHT BACK.
SO, AND I KNOW YOU HAVE THE CITY'S BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE, THE HOUSING FORWARD SPECIFICALLY THE ONE BEFORE THIS, SINCE 2023.
I KNOW YOU, UH, I DON'T REMEMBER, I KNOW AROUND THAT TIME YOU WERE IN AN INTERNSHIP PRIOR TO COMING ON STAFF, PRIOR TO GRADUATING COLLEGE.
UM, BUT, AND YOU HAVEN'T BEEN ON BY, I THINK, SIX MONTHS WITH THE CITY, BUT IN YOUR TIME WITH THE CITY, UM, WHAT HAVE YOU FELT HAVE KIND OF BEEN SOME TAKEAWAYS FROM OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH COLLIN COUNTY OR WITH HOUSING FORWARD WITHIN? LIKE, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE KEY TAKEAWAYS FROM THAT? I WAS, I WAS HOPING YOU CAN GO INTO DETAIL MAYBE, UM, WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING, WHAT YOU'RE SEEING OUT THERE, WHAT ARE YOU HEARING TREND WISE? CAN YOU, UH, SPEAK FURTHER? FOR SURE.
I'M HAPPY TO, HAPPY TO PROVIDE SOME CLARITY.
UM, YES, AS YOU MENTIONED, SO I OBVIOUSLY HAVE NOT BEEN THE REPRESENTATIVE SINCE 2023 AS I, UM, AM RELATIVELY NEW TO THE CITY.
UM, BUT WE HAVE BEEN A MEMBER SINCE 2023 OF BOTH COALITIONS, UM, TO PROVIDE, FIRST I'LL TALK ABOUT HOUSING FORWARD A LITTLE BIT.
SO, UM, THEY ARE MORE, I WOULD SAY THEY'RE, THEY OPERATE OUR CONTINUUM OF CARE, UM, WHICH IS THE HUD MANDATED SORT OF, UM, BODY THAT, UM, REACTS, RESPONDS AND UTILIZES FUNDING FROM THE FEDERAL LEVEL DOWN.
SO, UM, THEY'RE THE REALLY BIG PLAYER IN THE GAME, UM, IN REGARDS TO HOW ALL OF THE REGIONAL PARTS SORT OF PLAY TOGETHER.
UM, I MENTIONED THEY FACILITATE THE PIT COUNT, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT EVERYONE IS INVOLVED WITH.
UM, AND THEN SOME OF THE OTHER ON THE SLIDE, UM, ABOUT HOUSING FORWARD, THERE'S SOME PROGRAMS THAT THEY DO MORE SPECIFICALLY WITH THE NONPROFIT AGENCIES.
SO A LOT OF THEIR PARTNERSHIPS AND EFFORTS AND INITIATIVES, I, I WOULD SAY ARE MORE WITH NONPROFITS THAT SERVE CITIES, UM, INDIRECTLY.
BUT THEN CITIES, UM, PARTICIPATE REGIONALLY IN LIKE THE ALL NEIGHBORS COALITION AS A, NOT A GOVERNING BODY, 'CAUSE THEY HAVE A BOARD OF DIRECTORS SINCE THEY'RE NONPROFIT.
BUT AS FOR GUIDANCE AND CLARITY ABOUT THE DIRECTION THAT CERTAIN CITIES NEED AND HOW CITIES CAN ADVOCATE.
SO IT'S MORE OF LIKE A ADVOCATE SORT OF ROLE THAT WE PLAY.
UM, AND THEN THE COLLIN COUNTY HOMELESS COALITION, UM, I'D SAY IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE OF AN INFORMAL GROUP.
UM, THEY MEET, UM, OVER ON 15TH STREET OVER IN PLANO, UH, MONTHLY FOR YEARS.
UM, IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT INFORMATION SHARING.
UM, I CAN GIVE A GREAT EXAMPLE.
UM, RIGHT NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT LOTS OF THE, THE RESOURCE CARD IN FRONT OF YOU.
UM, A LOT OF THAT INFORMATION AND DATA CAME OUT, UM, THROUGH THAT COLLIN COUNTY WHOLE LIST COALITION.
'CAUSE THEY PROVIDE SIMILAR RESOURCES OTHER CITIES DO.
AND SO THAT WAS, UM, SOMETHING THAT I LEARNED ABOUT THROUGH THE COALITION AND THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR OUR STAFF TO ACROSS ALL DEPARTMENTS.
SO NOT JUST PUBLIC SAFETY, HAVE A RESOURCE GUIDE.
IF SOMEBODY SAY FROM THE LIBRARY GETS APPROACHED ABOUT AN INDIVIDUAL WHO MIGHT NEED ASSISTANCE, THEN THEY CAN RESPOND EFFECTIVELY.
UM, CHIEF, I'LL DIRECT A COUPLE TO YOU.
UM, I KNOW WE MENTIONED OUR CALLING WAS KIND OF THE ONE WE WERE WORKING WITH.
THEY'VE BEEN A LITTLE ABSENT OR MAYBE NOT, DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES.
UH, WE THOUGHT INITIALLY, DO THEY HAVE, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, A COMPETITOR OR OTHER PEOPLE KIND OF IN THAT SPACE THAT MAYBE WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT OR ANY, ANY RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE TO REPLACING THEM WITH ANOTHER SIMILAR TYPE ORGANIZATION? WE WERE, WE WERE BEING PATIENT, SEEING WHERE THEY WERE GOING TO GO WITH THAT.
UM, WE WERE HOPING TO GET SOME REPLACEMENT AND PERSONNEL, UM, THAT WERE ASSIGNED TO THE RICHARDSON AREA.
UM, THERE'S REALLY NOT A TRUE, UH, REPLACEMENT, UH, FOR US IN THAT VEIN, IF YOU WILL.
UM, AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE KIND OF IN THE SAME BOAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE IN, AND THAT IS LOOKING FOR MORE RESOURCES AND, AND HOW CAN WE BENEFIT.
UM, YOU'RE ON THE STATISTICS HERE TODAY FOR 1427 CONTACTS.
ARE THESE, AND I'M NOT HOLDING YOU TO AN EXACT NUMBER 'CAUSE I REALIZE YOU PROBABLY DON'T HAVE IT, MAYBE YOU DO, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE OFFICER SAVAGE DOES.
BUT OF THOSE 1427, HOW MANY OF THOSE WERE LIKE CITIZEN OR VERSUS POLICE OFFICER INITIATED? NO, SIR.
I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER, DON.
HERE, KIND OF OVERALL THOUGHTS.
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JUSTICE SAYS, UH, SAID ABOUT, UM, COLLIDE ABOUT THE INTERNAL TEAM, I REALLY LIKE THE FACT THAT WE'RE DOING THAT.HOPEFULLY SOME GOOD, UH, RESULTS WILL COME OUT OF THAT.
THE, I'M GLAD THAT WE CONTINUE TO BE A PART OF HOUSING FORWARD.
UM, I THINK THEY'RE DOING A LOT OF GOOD THINGS IN THE REGION, AND I'M, I'M GLAD TO HEAR WE'RE, WE'RE, AND I HOPE THAT OUR ROLE WITHIN HOUSING FORWARD CONTINUES TO GROW AS OUR INFLUENCE IN THAT GROUP.
DOES, UM, AND RILEY HOPE THAT YOU'RE, THAT THAT'S A PART OF WHAT YOU GET TO DO AND GROW IN YOUR, YOUR OWN CAREER AND SERVICE TO OUR CITY? UM, MY, MY THOUGHTS WHEN I THINK INITIALLY IS OKAY, WE'RE WHAT DO, WHAT DO WE NEED? I FEEL LIKE THIS IS A CONVERSATION THAT CAN GO SO MUCH DEEPER THAN THE ONE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TODAY.
UM, I APPRECIATE, UM, THE WORK THAT CHIEF YOUR TEAM OFFICER SAVAGE HAS DONE.
I ALWAYS STRUGGLE WITH ANYTIME WE DEAL WITH SOCIAL ISSUES AND IT BEING FROM A OFFICER PERSPECTIVE, NOT TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT OUR OWN DEPARTMENT, THAT'S NOT A COMMENT ON OUR DEPARTMENT.
THAT'S A COMMENT ON, IT'S A BIGGER SOCIETAL ISSUE AND YOUR EXPERTISE AND IS NEEDED IN SO MANY DIFFERENT AREAS.
AND OBVIOUSLY IN OUR, WHERE WE STAND RIGHT NOW, THE EXPERTISE OF COMMUNICATION, THAT THE GREAT JOB THAT RPD DOES IN COMMUNICATING IS THAT KIND OF EXPERTISE OF WHY YOU'VE BEEN PLACED IN THIS POSITION.
UM, I'D LIKE TO SEE US AS A CITY AND PARTNER MORE WITH SOME OF THOSE COMMUNITY RESOURCES, WHETHER IT'S NETWORK, WHETHER IT'S THE INTERFAITH ALLIANCE.
I KNOW AS SOMEBODY WHO VOLUNTEERED, UH, PRIOR TO JOINING THE COUNCIL, I VOLUNTEERED WITH HOMELESS, UM, INITIATIVES FOR OVER 20 YEARS.
IT'S ONE OF THE SUBJECTS THAT'S NEAREST AND DEAREST TO MY HEART.
UM, AND BOTH HERE IN DALLAS AND WHEN I LIVED IN SOUTH TEXAS AS A YOUNG 18-YEAR-OLD, AND WHAT, WHEN I, I KNOW THE RESOURCES MY OWN CHURCH HAS WITHIN THE HOMELESS COMMUNITY, I KNOW SOME OF THE RESOURCES OTHER CHURCHES AND I KNOW, UH, THAT MOSQUE AND VARIOUS OTHER RELIGIOUS GROUPS IN THE CITY HAVE AND DO THEIR OWN THING.
I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT WE BRING THEM INTO THAT.
SO IT'S NOT JUST A POLICE STUDENT, BUT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS IT.
BECAUSE ONE, AS YOU MENTIONED CHIEF EARLIER, YOU KNOW, KNOW HOME BEING, AND AS COUNCILMAN MENTIONED, BEING HOMELESS IS NOT A CRIME.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, UM, THERE ARE THOSE ISSUES THAT I HOPE WE, AND I, I'M CONFIDENT WE DO APPROACH IT FROM WITH A HUMANITARIAN PERSPECTIVE, YOU KNOW, AS, AS NEIGHBORS WITH HEARTS, BECAUSE IS WHILE, YOU KNOW, IF THAT PERSON ON THE CORNERS HAVE AN EPISODE, WE NEED TO PROVIDE THEM THE RESOURCES AND PROVIDE PUBLIC SAFETY, RIGHT? SO OBVIOUSLY THAT BECOMES A POLICING ISSUE AND THERE IS WAYS TO ADDRESS IT.
BUT, UM, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I DON'T THINK THAT PEOPLE SLEEPING, UM, AND JUST TRYING TO SURVIVE IN OUR, IN OUR SOCIETY SHOULD EVER BE MADE ILLEGAL OR SHOULD EVER BE SOMETHING THAT WE ACTIVELY, UM, ENFOR ENFORCE JUST BECAUSE OF THE, UM, BECAUSE OF THE, I GUESS MAYBE THAT'S THE BLEEDING HEART SIDE OF ME.
MAYBE IT'S, YOU KNOW, PART OF THAT IS SOME OF MY OWN PERSONAL IDEAS AND UNDERSTANDING OF MY OWN FAITH.
UM, BUT IF WE CAN, IF WE CAN DO SOMETHING, ONE, IF YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER SUGGESTIONS, I'M ALL EARS, BUT I'M HESITANT TO SAY, OKAY, LET'S EXPAND IF IT'S JUST A POLICE PROGRAM.
AND NOT TO SAY THAT THAT'S A FAILED PROGRAM.
NOT TO SAY IT'S BEEN A BAD PROGRAM.
IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK EVERYBODY'S PUT INTO IT, BUT I ALSO THINK IT'S AN ISSUE BIGGER THAN WHAT THE DEPARTMENT ITSELF HAS.
AND, AND, AND I'M GLAD WE'RE, UM, I'M GLAD THAT WE ARE USING THOSE REGIONAL RESOURCES, BUT ALSO WE, I THINK WHERE THERE ARE MORE RE RESOURCES WITHIN OUR CITY THAT HAVE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT BUDGETS, THAT HAVE DIFFERENT, UH, HANDS AND INTO THE COMMUNITY IN DIFFERENT WAYS, THAT IF WE PUT OUR BRAINS TOGETHER, SURELY WE CAN COME UP WITH SOME SOLUTIONS THAT WORK FOR RICHARDSON, UH, AND ALL OF RICHARDSON.
UM, AND THAT TO, AND THAT'S TO ME OUR BUSINESS OWNERS, OUR NEIGHBORS, AND EVEN OUR UNHOUSED NEIGHBORS.
UM, SO THAT'S KIND OF MY THOUGHTS ON THAT.
AND, UH, I WILL LET OTHERS THAT QUESTION.
BUT THANK YOU AGAIN, GENTLEMEN, FOR THE WORK YOU DO, MAYOR TO WRITER.
UM, FIRST OFF, I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THIS COMMUNITY RESOURCE GUIDE, SO THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH.
DON, IF WE COULD TAKE THIS TO THE NEXT HOA PRESIDENT'S MEETING AND HAND THIS OUT, I THINK, I THINK THEY WOULD LOVE TO SEE THIS AS WELL.
SO JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT REALLY QUICKLY.
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CHIEF, DO YOU KNOW APPROXIMATELY HOW MANY HOURS WE'RE EXPENDING RIGHT NOW BEING ON DARK TRAINS AND DOING WHAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IN A YEAR'S TIME? DO YOU HAVE A FEEL FOR THAT? NO, SIR.I DON'T, UM, I COULD PROBABLY GET YOU THAT NUMBER THOUGH.
IT JUST, IT IS JUST A, AGAIN, JUST JUST GIVEN ALL THE DARK DISCUSSION, JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT ADDITIONAL RESOURCES WE'RE PUTTING TOWARDS, TOWARDS DART IN THAT REGARD.
UM, ALSO, UM, DO YOU HAVE A FEEL, WHETHER IT'S A NUMBER OR A PERCENTAGE, HOW OFTEN WHEN WE HAVE INTERACTION WITH SOMEONE WHO IS, UM, UM, HOMELESS, HOW OFTEN IT TURNS INTO A POLICE MATTER VERSUS A I'LL, I'LL TRY THE WORDS CO COLLEGIAL CONVERSATION WITH THEM.
DO YOU, DO YOU HAVE A FEEL FOR THAT, WHAT THAT PERCENTAGE IS? SO I'M GONNA BREAK THAT DOWN A LITTLE BIT FURTHER.
UM, AND IF I MAY, IT MAY START OUT AS A POLICE MATTER, AS IT RELATES TO A CITIZEN INITIATED CALL FOR SERVICE, A NINE ONE ONE CALL.
UH, WE GET OUT THERE AND WE QUELL A VERBAL DISTURBANCE.
UM, TO ME THAT IS A, THAT CAN BE INTERPRETED AS A POLICE MATTER.
OTHERS MAY ONLY INTERPRET, UM, ABSOLUTE ENFORCEMENT AS A POLICE MATTER.
AND SO, UM, ABSOLUTE ENFORCEMENT, I WOULD SAY THAT THAT'S A VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE.
HOWEVER, GETTING OUT TO THE SCENE, UM, OF A CALL FOR SERVICE AND QUALLING A DISTURBANCE THAT HAS BEEN A VERBAL DISTURBANCE, UH, SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE, I WOULD SAY THAT NUMBER IS, IS PROBABLY PRETTY HIGH.
UM, JEREMY, DO YOU WANT TO HELP ME OUT OR CORRECT ME IN ANY OF THAT?
AND THEN, UM, RILEY, JUST A CURIOSITY QUESTION.
WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT THE INTERNAL TEAM, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE FOR JUST A MOMENT? IT WAS LIKE SECOND OR THIRD SLIDE OF YOUR PRESENTATION.
I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT RIGHT THERE.
UH, YOU'VE GOT PARTICIPATING DEPARTMENTS.
ALL OF 'EM MADE SENSE TO ME EXCEPT FOR EISMAN CENTER, AND I'M JUST, I'M CURIOUS.
IT, IT'S, IT'S, I'M NOT, NOT A, NOT A CRI CRITICAL, IT'S JUST A CURIOSITY.
'CAUSE EVERYTHING ELSE MAKES INTUITIVE SENSE TO ME, BUT EISMAN CENTER DIDN'T.
HAPPY TO PROVIDE, UM, SOME CLARITY THERE.
SO, UM, THE EISMAN CENTER HAS EXPERIENCED, UM, ESPECIALLY IN THAT GALLATIN PARK AREA, UM, SOME ENCOUNTERS WITH, UM, HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS.
AND SO, UM, OUR DIRECTOR, UM, ALLIE WAS INTERESTED IN PARTICIPATING IN THE DEPARTMENT AND HAS ACTUALLY BEEN, UM, REALLY WONDERFUL TO HAVE HER.
AND, UM, KIND OF GOING BACK TO GETTING INFORMATION OUT TO ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENTS, UM, THE ICEMAN GETS A LOT OF, OBVIOUSLY, PUBLIC INTERFACE.
UM, AND SO HAVING THE RESOURCE CARDS AVAILABLE THERE, UM, IS SOMETHING THAT THEY'VE REQUESTED.
THANK YOU THAT, THAT CLARIFIES THAT.
IT WAS JUST, AS I READ THROUGH 'EM, I'M LIKE, ALL OF THESE ARE MAKING SENSE TO ME EXCEPT FOR THAT ONE.
SO THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION AND THANK YOU BOTH VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION.
THANK YOU OFFICER SAVAGE FOR ALL THE WORK YOU'VE DONE ON THIS PRESENTATION AND ALL THE WORK Y'ALL CONTINUE TO DO ON THIS REALLY SENSITIVE TOPIC.
I THINK IN OUR COMMUNITY, UM, YOU KNOW, AND I, WHETHER YOU HAVE SYMPATHY, UH, FOR THE UNHOUSED OR NOT, I DO THINK IT'S A PROBLEM THAT WE ALL WANT TO SOLVE AND, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER, WHATEVER THE CIRCUMSTANCE LED US HERE, YOU KNOW, POLICE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE ON THE FRONT LINES EVERY DAY INTERACTING WITH THE UNHOUSED AND TRYING TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM.
AND SO WHILE WE CAN DEBATE THE MERITS OF IT BEING WITH Y'ALL OR NOT, YOU'RE THE ONE THAT'S OUT THERE HAVING TO INTERACT WITH THEM EVERY SINGLE DAY AND BEING CALLED TO IT.
AND I, I FEEL LIKE IN SOME WAYS IT'S ONLY NATURAL THAT THE PROGRAM STARTED WITH YOU.
SO, YOU KNOW, I DO THINK THAT IT'S, IT'S BIGGER THAN RPD, IT'S BIGGER THAN RICHARDSON.
AND SO MY REAL, I GUESS MY REAL QUESTION IS MORE OF AN ANTICIPATION, WHAT'S NEXT TYPE QUESTION WITH REGIONAL COLLABORATION, ESPECIALLY WITH THIS POTENTIAL FUTURE CONCERNS ANTICIPATING THAT DALLAS AND OTHER CITIES WILL INCREASE THEIR ENGAGEMENT.
UM, AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ENGAGEMENT, WHEN I SEE THAT WORD, I MEAN, I THINK OF THEM PUSHING IT UP TOWARDS US OR TAKING ACTIVITIES THAT WILL CAUSE MORE UNHOUSED FROM DALLAS AND FARTHER SOUTH TO COME UP OUR WAY.
UH, AND MAYBE WE MIGHT HAVE PRESSURE FROM THE NORTH COMING DOWN TOO.
AND SO FROM THAT END, WHAT, WHAT VALUE DO SOME OF THESE REGIONAL ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE'RE A PART OF PROVIDE TO RESOLVING OR COORDINATING BETWEEN DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS IN DIFFERENT CITIES TO, I GUESS JUST PREVENTING EVERYBODY FROM MOVING, TRYING TO MOVE PEOPLE ACROSS THESE VARIOUS CITY
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AND JURISDICTIONAL LINES? IT SEEMS LIKE A PRETTY ENDLESS GAME OF CAT AND MOUSE.SO COUNCIL MEMBER, IF I MAY, UM, THAT IS A CONCERN.
WE HAVE, UH, WHAT YOU'VE JUST OUTLINED IS AN ABSOLUTE CONCERN.
AND AS WE, UH, ANTICIPATE THOSE PRESSURES FROM THE SOUTH, BUT ALSO, UH, FROM ALL AROUND US MM-HMM
UH, WE ARE ALL BUYING FOR THE SAME RESOURCES AND THERE ARE LIMITED RESOURCES AS, AS WE KNOW TODAY, AND WE, WE HIGHLY EXPECT THAT, UM, FIGHT FOR ADDITIONAL RESOURCES TO EVEN GROW.
AND SO I DON'T SEE A SOLUTION AS IT RELATES TO GROWING THOSE RESOURCES BETWEEN NOW AND, UM, AND, UH, THE SPRING OF 26.
AND SO, UM, WITHOUT A DOUBT, I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER TO THAT.
BUT I HAVE A CONCERN AND, AND I SHARE THAT CONCERN THAT YOU'VE JUST OUTLINED.
DO YOU THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT, A CONCERN YOU COULD SHARE WITH, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE OTHER, YOU KNOW, CALLS WITH OTHER CHIEFS OR OTHER POLICE DEPARTMENTS, YOU KNOW, REGIONALLY, BUT I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD BE A TOPIC THAT WOULD BE VERY PRUDENT TO TRY TO TACKLE AS A GROUP.
UM, AND SO I MEET WITH MY COLLIN COUNTY, UH, COUNTERPARTS AS WELL AS, UM, MAJOR CITIES IN THE, UM, NORTH TEXAS REGION.
WE MEET DOWN IN IRVING, UH, ON A, ON A MONTHLY BASIS.
UM, AND I WILL TELL YOU, THIS IS A, THIS IS A, UH, CERTAINLY A, A LARGE CONVERSATION AND IT'S GROWING AS A LARGER CONVERSATION AS WE MOVE INTO PREPARATION FOR WORLD CUP.
UM, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A CONVERSATION, BUT SOMETIMES IT TAKES THE BACKSEAT, RIGHT? AND SOMETIMES IT DOESN'T.
UM, NOW IT'S GROWING TO THAT FRONT SEAT AND, UM, NO ONE HAS THE ANSWER.
AND I THINK THAT IS BASED ON SOME OF THE SOCIETAL ISSUES, SOME OF THE SOCIETAL NEEDS, AND AGAIN, WE'RE ALL FIGHTING FOR THE SAME RESOURCES AND, UM, NO ONE THERE, THERE'S NO ONE OR TWO ENTITIES THAT ARE STEPPING UP WITH THOSE RESOURCES BECAUSE, UM, THEY'RE VERY VALUABLE.
OH, THE, SO, UH, I PURPOSELY REMAIN QUIET FOR THE BETTER PART OF THIS, BUT I THINK THIS IS THE PERFECT TIME TO KIND OF 'CAUSE YOU, THE, THE QUESTION YOU ASKED IS, IT'S REALLY A TWO PART QUESTION.
WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO FOR ABOUT FOUR MONTHS? RIGHT? UM, BUT YOU COULD ASK THAT QUESTION ABOUT EVERYTHING, HUMAN TRAFFICKING, ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT CRIMES, RIGHT? WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA HOST A ONCE IN A LIFETIME WORLD EVENT, AND THERE ARE CONSEQUENCES ASSOCIATED WITH DOING THAT, BOTH GOOD AND BAD, RIGHT? AND SO I THINK THERE'S THAT QUESTION OF HOW ARE WE GONNA HANDLE THIS ONE TIME EVENT? AND THEN THERE'S, THE QUESTION I THOUGHT YOU REALLY STARTED WITH WAS, UM, WHAT IS THE REGIONAL, WHAT IS THE BENEFIT OF SOME OF THESE REGIONAL PARTNERSHIPS AND HOW ARE WE GONNA HANDLE THIS ON A LONG TERM? AND SO LET ME, LET ME START WITH THAT QUESTION.
UM, I THINK IT'S SEVERAL THINGS.
I THINK THE, UH, ANSWER TO, TO OFFICER SAVAGE'S QUESTION OF WHAT'S THE NEXT, OUR CALLING IS VERY MUCH UNDER CONSIDERATION BY THESE REGIONAL PARTNERS.
I THINK HOUSING FORD IS AT THE FOREFRONT OF THAT.
AND IS THERE A PERFECT MODEL YET? NO, BUT NEITHER WAS OUR, OUR CALLING.
I MEAN, OUR CALLING WAS THE ONLY THING THAT WAS AVAILABLE.
SO IT WAS, IT WAS THE BEST THING WE HAD.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT BOTH OF THE COALITIONS ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IS HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE COME UP WITH A, UM, A, AN APPROACH THAT ONE DOESN'T DUPLICATE VERY LIMITED EFFORTS? UH, I MEAN, RE BECAUSE WE HAVE SUCH LIMITED RESOURCES, SO WE'RE NOT DUPLICATING EFFORTS, BUT WE ARE PROVIDING THE KIND OF WRAPAROUND SERVICES.
UM, SO I THINK RILEY'S PARTICIPATION, UM, AND JUST QUITE FRANKLY, HER, HER, HER VERY SINCERE CARE, UH, FOR THIS ISSUE IS VERY VALUABLE IN THAT WAY BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA BE AT THE FOREFRONT OF HELPING SHAPE THAT POLICY, HELPING SHAPE THAT SOLUTION.
UH, BUT UH, YOU SAID IT, WELL, IT'S GONNA BE A REGIONAL SOLUTION.
IT'S NOT GONNA BE A RICHARDSON SOLUTION.
UM, AND SO I THINK REEVALUATING WHAT IS THE NEXT, WHAT'S OUR CALLING 2.0 FOR INSTANCE.
UM, THE SECOND THING I THINK LONG TERM IS WE HAVE TO REEVALUATE OUR CURRENT PARTNERSHIPS.
WE PROVIDE TWO ORGANIZATIONS A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR.
IF THIS IS A PRIORITY, JUST LIKE, UM, OTHER SOCIAL ISSUES ARE, WE NEED TO BE WORKING WITH THOSE TWO ORGANIZATIONS TO DECIDE WHAT PART OF THEIR WORK PLAN AND HOW MUCH RESOURCES THEY CAN PUT TOWARDS THIS.
IF THIS IS A PRIORITY FOR THE COUNCIL, WE SHOULDN'T ACCEPT THE ANSWER.
I REALLY, I TRULY BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE EXISTING PARTNERSHIPS THAT WE CAN HELP EVOLVE AND WE CAN HELP REFINE THEIR MISSION SO THAT IT MEETS OUR GOALS.
AND IT'S, AND, AND, AND, AND IN MANY CASES IT WOULD BE MEETING SEVERAL GOALS.
UH, THE THIRD THING I THINK IS, UM, AND, AND I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN BARTIS ENTIRELY, OUR HOUSE IS OF WORSHIP.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE INTERFAITH ALLIANCE IS, IT'S A GREAT ORGANIZATION, BUT IT'S A INFORMAL ORGANIZATION, UM, THAT HAS A VERY INFORMAL WAY OF APPROACHING THINGS.
WE NEED TO GO ONE STEP FURTHER AND GO A LITTLE BIT DEEPER, AND I THINK BYPASS THE RIA IN MANY WAYS AND GO WORK DIRECTLY WITH THE HOUSES OF WORSHIP.
THAT'S WHY WHEN RILEY CAME ON, THAT WAS ONE OF THE MAIN ASSIGNMENTS I GAVE FOR HER, WAS TO GET OUT AND TO START VISITING WITH EVERY SINGLE NONPROFIT WE HAVE AND, AND, AND GETTING OUT AND BECOMING PART OF THE, THE INTERFAITH ALLIANCE
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AND REALLY UNDERSTANDING THE HOUSES OF WORSHIP.SO I THINK THE LONG-TERM SOLUTION IS THAT THREE-PART SOLUTION.
IT'S FINDING NEW REGIONAL SOLUTIONS AND, AND WAYS THAT WE CAN PARTNER AND LEVERAGE LIMITED RESOURCES.
SO WE DON'T DUPLICATE EFFORTS.
IT'S RETHINKING OUR EXISTING PARTNERSHIPS, AND THEN IT'S DEPENDING MORE AT A MICRO LEVEL ON OUR HOUSES OF WORSHIP AND FIGURING OUT HOW THEY CAN BE PART OF THE, THE, THE WRAPAROUND SERVICES THAT WE WANT.
I ALSO AGREE PD IS GONNA HAVE TO BE THE, THE, THE, THE INVOLVED IN THIS.
YOU KNOW, I'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION PREVIOUSLY.
UM, WHEN YOU WALK UP TO SOMEONE WHO IS, UM, WHO IS, UM, IN NEED OF ASSISTANCE, UM, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF STATE THAT PERSON IS IN.
THEY COULD BE IN, UH, THEY COULD BE ACROSS THE SPECTRUM.
UM, IT TAKES A QUALIFIED, TRAINED, EXPERIENCED PERSON TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT FIRST INTERACTION.
AND, UH, BUT THEN WE CAN, THEN WE CAN, AS WE HAVE AND ALREADY STARTED TO, WE CAN INVOLVE MANY OTHER DEPARTMENTS AND BEING PART OF THAT, THAT SOLUTION.
UM, I DON'T ALSO THINK IT'S, UM, I DON'T ALSO THINK THAT, UH, THERE ISN'T THOUGHT BEING GIVEN AROUND TO THE FOUR MONTH QUESTION THAT WHAT DO WE DO FOR FIFA? EVERY SINGLE AS I MENTIONED, I MEAN, THERE, THERE ARE GROUPS FOCUSING JUST ON HUMAN TRAFFICKING.
THERE IS GROUPS FOCUSING ON TRANSPORTATION.
THERE ARE GROUPS FOCUSING ON THIS.
I DON'T THINK THAT, I THINK DALLAS HAS GOTTEN A BAD RAP.
I DON'T THINK DALLAS'S GOAL IS JUST TO PUSH EVERYBODY SOMEWHERE ELSE.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, CHIEF TITTLE MENTIONED THIS.
CHIEF TITTLE AND I WERE AT MEETINGS WITH, UH, NOW CITY MANAGER, UH, KIM TOLBERT, WHEN SHE WAS DEPUTY ON THIS VERY ISSUE WHERE SHE CALLED ALL OF THE SUBURB CITIES THAT ARE ADJACENT TO DALLAS DOWN AND SAID, WE HAVE TO WORK ON THIS TOGETHER.
AND SO, LIKE MANY THINGS, UH, WITH FIFA, I THINK THAT'S STILL, UM, I THINK, I THINK WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO FOR A SURGE, UNLIKE ANY OTHER, UM, IS STILL TRYING TO BE WORKED OUT.
BUT I DO THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN NORTH TEXAS WHO ARE THINKING ABOUT THAT.
AND CHIEF MENTIONED HIS CHIEFS GROUPS, BUT FIFA IS NOT TRYING TO BE IRRESPONSIBLE ABOUT THIS EITHER.
FIFA KNOWS THAT THIS IS AN ISSUE AND THEY'RE WILLING TO PUT RESOURCES, UH, TO IT.
AND, AND SO I THINK WE JUST NEED TO BE A LITTLE MORE PATIENT AND, AND, AND BE PART OF WHATEVER THAT REGIONAL SOLUTION IS.
BUT I REALLY THINK THERE'S LONG, LONG WAY TO SAY THERE.
I, I SEE THERE ARE TWO QUESTIONS.
THERE'S THE FIFA QUESTION AND THE, THE, THE SURGE AND THE DISPLACEMENT QUESTION THAT MAY BE IS LESS KNOWN, UH, A SHORTER, MORE DIFFICULT QUESTION, A PROBLEM.
BUT I THINK, I THINK THE THREE PART SOLUTION THAT WE'RE WORKING ON, IF I HAD TO SAY WHAT ARE WE DOING FOR THE LONG TERM, I THINK THOSE THREE KEY COMPONENTS, UM, THE, THE, THE REGIONAL PARTICIPATION, THE RE-LOOKING AT EXISTING PARTNERSHIPS, UM, AND, UH, THE, UH, FURTHER GREATER DEPENDENCE ON OUR HUSHES OF WORSHIP, I THINK WE'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK WITH THAT.
UM, QUESTION, I BELIEVE I CAUGHT THAT, THAT HOUSING FORWARD WAS HUD, WAS HUD MONEY? ANY, ARE THERE ANY TALKS ABOUT THAT BEING IN TROUBLE WITH SOME OF THE STUFF HAPPENING ON A NATIONAL LEVEL? HAS I'M, I'M GUESSING THAT HAS BEEN PART OF THE CONVERSATION? UH, YES.
UM, SO HOUSING FORWARD, THERE IS BEING TALKS RIGHT NOW, UM, AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL OF KIND OF DISMANTLING OR KIND OF REDOING THE CONTINUUM OF CARE MODEL, WHICH IS HOW THE, UM, CURRENT, UM, WAY THAT THE FUNDING FLOWS FROM HUD DOWN INTO THE CONTINUUM OF CARE.
SO HOUSING FORWARD OPERATES OUR DALLAS AND COLLIN COUNTY CONTINUUM OF CARE.
UM, NOT SURE WHERE THOSE CONVERSATIONS ARE GOING, BUT THAT HAS BEEN A TOPIC AT THE HOUSING FORWARD MEETINGS.
AND I THINK THAT JUST GOES TO SPEAK TO THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING THAT KIND OF THREE-PRONGED APPROACH IS SO THAT WE CAN'T JUST RELY ON REGIONAL AS THINGS CHANGE STATE NATIONALLY AND LOCALLY AS A REGION.
BUT, UM, WE ALSO AS A CITY CONTINUE TO ASK WHAT WE'RE DOING.
SO I, I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY, DAWN.
UH, GUYS, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
UM, I DO HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS MYSELF.
UH, IN TERMS OF THE POLICE ELEMENT THERE, I, I'M A LITTLE BIT FRUSTRATED THAT WE'RE IN A POSITION WHERE WE NEED TO HAVE OUR OWN, UH, ON THE DART RAILS, AND I'M, I'M CURIOUS IF THERE'S AT LEAST A CERTAIN LEVEL OF UNDERSTANDING OR EXPECTATION FROM DART AS TO WHAT WE SHOULD EXPECT, UM, IN TERMS OF THEIR OWN POLICING OF THOSE PARTICULAR AREAS.
HAS THAT BEEN SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED? SHOULD WE EXPECT A DART PERSON AT EVERY RAIL STOP TWICE A DAY? OR IS THERE ANY GENERAL FEEL FROM THEM ON THAT STUFF? MAYOR, THAT IS, THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CONTINUE TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS FROM COMMAND STAFF, COMMAND STAFF, CHIEF TO CHIEF, ABSOLUTELY.
THEY, THEY ASSIST US IN A LOT OF WAYS, BUT PUTTING AN ABSOLUTE, UH, CHECKPOINT, UH, AT CERTAIN TIMES IN THEIR OWN ROUTINES, UM, I RECOGNIZE THAT THAT'S A HUGE CHALLENGE FOR THEM.
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RECOGNIZE THAT, UM, I WANT TO KNOW, WE WANT TO KNOW AS RPD, UM, A FEEL AND, AND A FLARE FOR WHAT IS GOING ON ON THAT TRAIN AS IT COMES INTO OUR CITY.WHAT'S RIDING THAT TRAIN? IS IT COMING OR GOING? IS IT GOING NORTHBOUND SOUTHBOUND? WHAT, WHAT DO WE, UM, WHAT DO WE EVEN KNOW ABOUT THAT? AND I THINK IT'S A FAILURE ON OUR PART IF WE'RE NOT ENGAGING ON THOSE TRAINS, NOT TO REPLACE WHAT DART IS DOING, BUT MORE SO TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING AS TO WHAT'S GOING ON ON THOSE TRAINS AS THEY ROLL THROUGH OUR CITY.
UM, UH, THE SECOND QUESTION I'VE GOT IS, IS REGARDING ENCAMPMENTS.
UM, I'M ASSUMING THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN ENCAMPMENTS THAT ARE RECURRING, CERTAIN LOCATIONS THAT HAVE RECURRING ENCAMPMENTS.
SO TODAY, HOW DO WE APPROACH THOSE? IS IT A WE KIND OF WAIT UNTIL IT'S BEEN REPORTED, OR IF WE KNOW IT'S A RECURRING ENCAMPMENT, DO WE JUST GO OUT THERE EVERY THREE DAYS? OR HOW, HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE MANAGE THOSE TODAY? WE, WE ARE PROACTIVE IN THAT APPROACH.
UM, WE WILL GO OUT TO THOSE LOCATIONS THAT THEY HAVE THEM REOCCURRING, AND YES, WE TRY TO GET IN ON THE FRONT END SO THAT WE, UM, DON'T COME BACK THREE MONTHS LATER AND HAVE THIS MASSIVE, UH, ENCAMPMENT.
SO WE GET IN ON THE FIRST, UH, GROUND FLOOR, IF YOU WILL, WHEN THAT STARTS TO CREATE.
UM, WE WILL ALSO WORK WITH, UM, OUR OWN INTERNAL, UH, PARTNERS AS IT RELATES TO, UM, WHETHER IT'S THE PARKS DEPARTMENT OR SOMEONE OF THAT NATURE, UM, AND ASSESS.
AND THEY ARE ALSO OUR EYES AND EARS.
BUT ALSO AS REFERENCED IN THAT EMAIL THAT I RECEIVED EARLIER FROM, UM, PARKS DEPARTMENT WHERE THEY'RE TRIMMING BACK TREES, THEY'RE MAKING THINGS MORE CHALLENGING AS IT RELATES TO A, A BENCH SO THAT THEY, THEY PLACE SOMETHING IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT BENCH.
THEY PLACE AN ARMREST, UM, MUCH MORE IN A CHAIR CAPACITY VERSUS A BENCH CAPACITY WHERE PEOPLE WILL STRETCH OUT AND, AND, AND CALL HOME FOR, FOR A WHILE.
AND SO JUST DOING THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALMOST A WHILE.
WHILE THE THEORY HAS BEEN, UM, UM, DEBUNKED, IF YOU WILL, THE BROKEN WINDOWS THEORY IS, IS POSSIBLY ALIVE AND WELL IN CERTAIN AREAS OF THAT NATURE.
SO, UM, JUST TRYING TO DO THINGS AS PROACTIVE AS POSSIBLE, BUT ALSO UTILIZING WHAT'S AT OUR OWN FINGERTIPS AS IT RELATES TO INTERNAL CITY OF RICHARDSON RESOURCES, BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, PARTNERING AND HAVING THE EXPECTATION WITH THE BUSINESS OWNERS IF THEY SEE IT AS WELL AS IT STANDS TODAY.
ARE WE, LET'S SAY, AROUND THIS RECURRING ENCAMPMENT SCENARIO, ARE WE USING ANY KIND OF TECHNOLOGY, ANYTHING THAT COULD INFORM US THAT PERHAPS THERE'S ACTIVITY IN A PARTICULAR AREA THAT WOULD MAYBE TIP US OFF THAT WE SHOULD GET OUT THERE SOONER RATHER THAN LATER? OR, OR THERE'S NO REAL NEED TO GO OUT THERE BECAUSE THERE'S NO ACTIVITY IN THE LAST THREE DAYS OR FOUR DAYS WITHOUT GETTING TOO DEEPLY INVOLVED IN THAT? YES.
WE CERTAINLY HAVE OUR, UM, PORTABLE CAMERAS AND WE ALSO HAVE OUR DRONES TO, UH, TAKE A LOOK AT VARIOUS THINGS.
SO WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF SOME DIFFERENT WAYS OF KNOWING THAT THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON IN A PARTICULAR SITE.
AND THE OLD FASHIONED BICYCLE WORKS ON OUR TRAILS AS WELL.
UM, AND THEN THE LAST THING AROUND REGIONAL TRANS, UH, REGIONAL COLLABORATION, UM, UM, I THINK THE POLICYMAKING REGIONAL COLLABORATION IS OBVIOUSLY IMPORTANT AND, AND IT'S HELPFUL.
AND, AND RILEY, I I DO THANK YOU FOR A, HAVING AN INTEREST IN B BEING ENGAGED IN THOSE.
UM, I WONDER THOUGH, TODAY, DO WE HAVE ANY, AND, AND THIS MAY BE A QUESTION FOR YOU, DON, BUT, UM, DO WE HAVE ANY PAID PARTNERSHIPS OUTSIDE OF THE ONES YOU REFERRED TO EARLIER? UM, SO I THINK OF, UH, A BRIEFING EARLY ON WHEN I WAS MAYOR AND WE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS TOPIC.
AND, UH, YOU MENTIONED THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR CALLING WAS KIND OF HERE FOR A WHILE, BUT MAYBE THEY WENT AWAY WHEN THERE WASN'T NECESSARILY AN ACTIVE PARTICIPATION FINANCIALLY, PERHAPS, UH, WITH US AS A CITY.
IS THAT, IS THAT STILL A POSSIBILITY? AND AND DOES SOMETHING LIKE THAT AT LEAST BEGIN TO BE A POTENTIAL OPTION VERSUS EXPANDING SOME OF THE SCOPE THAT WE HAVE WITH THE OTHERS? UM, JUST CURIOUS FROM Y'ALL'S PERSPECTIVE.
I THINK, I THINK THAT SHOULD ALWAYS BE AN OPTION, WHETHER IT'S THE OPTION OR NOT.
UM, I'M, I'M NOT CERTAIN ON THAT.
I THINK THERE ARE SOME, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S HOW FAR, HOW FAR AND HOW LONG DO WE WAIT TO SEE IF SOMETHING, UM, COMES ON BOARD THAT CAN COMPETE WITH THAT? UM, BECAUSE IF WE GET IN ON ONE OPTION TOO LATE,
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THEN WE, WE HAVE THE LEFTOVER, SO TO SPEAK.UM, AND SO I DON'T HAVE A DIRECT ANSWER FOR YOU, BUT I THINK THOSE ARE VERY VIABLE OPTIONS THAT WE NEED TO BE VERY, UM, WELL AWARE OF AND BE FLEXIBLE ENOUGH AND NIMBLE ENOUGH TO RESPOND WHEN WE NEED TO.
AND WHEN WE COME TO THAT POINT OF, OKAY, WE, WE'VE GOTTA DO SOMETHING AND HERE'S AN OPTION.
I I, I WANT TO ANSWER MAYBE A COUPLE QUESTIONS THAT WERE, I DON'T KNOW, RHETORICAL OR NOT, BUT I'LL ANSWER 'EM ANYWAY.
UM, UH, THAT DAWN, YOU PRESENTED TO US, UH, YES, I THINK IT'S A PRIORITY.
UH, AND I'M ONE OF SEVEN MM-HMM
BUT I PERSONALLY THINK IT'S A PRIORITY AND WOULD LOVE TO GET SOME SORT OF FEEDBACK ON, YOU KNOW, A WHAT OUR CAPABILITIES ARE, UH, RELATIVE TO LEFTOVERS OF OUR CALLING.
UM, I UNDERSTOOD, UH, IN A MEETING THAT I HAD WITH, UH, ONE OF THE MEMBERS OF THE COLLIN COUNTY, UH, UH, HOMELESS COALITION, THAT, UM, UH, THAT THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES WITH LIKE ORGANIZATIONS LIKE OUR CALLING OR OTHERS WHERE THEY'LL EITHER BRING IN OFFICE OR, OR DO SOMETHING WHERE THEY CAN PROVIDE SOME SORT OF WRAPAROUND SERVICES, WHETHER THAT'S IN COLLABORATION WITH ONE OF OUR EXISTING ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE'RE A PART OF.
AND, UH, BECAUSE THERE'S A CERTAIN LEVEL OF EXPERTISE THAT YOU GET DAY ONE IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE DEALING WITH ONE OF THOSE ORGANIZATIONS.
UH, BUT I'D, I'D VERY MUCH BE INTERESTED IN AT LEAST UNDERSTANDING WHAT KIND OF INVESTMENT, UH, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, CONSIDERING A FIXED BUDGET.
WHAT, WHAT SORT OF THING WE WOULD HAVE TO STEP AWAY FROM IN ORDER TO, UM, MAKE THAT INVESTMENT IN THIS CYCLE.
UM, AND, UH, AND THEN GO FROM THERE.
AND, AND THE LAST PART I WOULD SAY IS I FULLY SUPPORT ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING WE CAN DO TO FORMALLY, UH, GET SOMETHING GOING WITH OUR INTERFAITH TEAM, JUST TO SEE IF THERE IS AN APPETITE THERE, UH, TO GET INVOLVED, UH, IN A MORE, UH, ACTIVE WAY, I THINK.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE, UM, REALLY A, A SMART IDEA, ESPECIALLY IF THERE'S AN APPETITE FOR IT.
SO, DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS OR QUESTIONS OR, OKAY.
COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE? YEAH, NO, I MEAN, JUST SO WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE QUESTIONS, PLEASE DO THAT.
I, I, I WILL JUST ECHO EVERYTHING YOU SAID.
I THINK YOU SAID IT REALLY WELL AND REALLY SUCCINCTLY.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT THAT IT IS A PRIORITY, BUT WE ALSO NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT GIVEN SORT OF OUR BUDGET CONSTRAINTS AND ALL THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.
SO I WON'T REPEAT EVERYTHING YOU SAID, BUT I I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY WITH THE WAY THAT YOU PUT IT.
EVERY, EVERYONE GENERALLY IS OKAY WITH THAT FOR, OKAY.
THANK YOU OFFICER SAVAGE, AND THANK YOU RILEY.
[C. REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY NEEDS FOR CONSIDERATION IN A 2026 BOND PROGRAM]
WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM C.THAT IS TO REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY NEEDS FOR CONSIDERATION IN A 2026 BOND PROGRAM.
MR. MAGNER, UH, THANK YOU MAYOR, UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
MARK NELSON, OUR DIRECTOR OF TRANSPORTATION MOBILITY, IS GONNA HEAD TO THE PODIUM HERE.
THIS IS, UH, THE FIRST OF WHAT WILL BE, UH, SEVERAL DEEP DIVES, UH, AS WE BEGIN, UH, TO REALLY PREPARE FOR, UH, THE 2026 BOND PROGRAM, OR THE POSSIBILITY OF THE 2026 BOND PROGRAM.
AS I MENTIONED TO YOU, AS WE, UH, HEAD INTO THE CHRISTMAS BREAK, WE'LL HAVE COMPLETED, UH, ALL OF OUR DEEP DIVES AND WE'LL BEGIN TO START THE, UH, EARLY, UH, KIND OF REFINEMENT, IF YOU WILL, OF POTENTIAL PROPOSITIONS.
AND SO, UH, ALONG WITH MARK TONIGHT IS, UH, PRETI AND DANIEL, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, GUYS.
AND, UH, MARK'S GONNA RUN THROUGH BOTH THE, UH, TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY PROJECTS, UH, THAT WE, UH, BELIEVE, UH, SHOULD BE PART OF YOUR CONSIDERATION FOR THIS PORTION OF WHAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE A STREETS PROPOSITION.
RECALL, STREETS AND TRANSPORTATION MOBILITY ARE, ARE COMBINED INTO ONE PROPOSITION.
SO, UH, BUT, UH, WE LET WE BREAK THEM OUT HERE FOR THEIR, THEIR INDEPENDENT CONSIDERATION FOR YOU, MARK.
MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BEFORE TO BE BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING TO TALK ABOUT THAT, UH, UH, THIS, UH, 2026 BOND PLANNING PROGRAM.
SO, QUICK OVERVIEW, WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, OUR TRAFFIC OPERATIONS AND THEN OUR ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION.
AGAIN, SYSTEM OVERVIEW WITH OUR TRAFFIC OPERATIONS, SOME OF THE 2021 BOND PROGRAM PROJECTS THAT WE'RE ADVANCING ON.
UH, AND THEN OUR PROJECT PRIORITIZATION, HOW WE GOT, UH, TO THOSE 2026 BOND CANDIDATE PROJECTS.
THEN LIKEWISE, UH, PROJECT PRIVATE, UH, PRIORITIZATION, UH, FOR OUR ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION ON OUR MOBILITY SIDE AND, AND THOSE, UH, PROPOSED, UH, BOND CANDIDATE PROJECTS.
UH, THEN WE'LL MOVE INTO A, UH, AN OVERALL SUMMARY FOR THE TRANSPORTATION MOBILITY DEPARTMENT WITH SOME RECOMMENDATIONS, AND THEN CERTAINLY AS PART OF THE NEXT STEPS, UH, TAKE SOME FEEDBACK QUESTIONS.
AND THEN, UH, THAT KIND OF ROLLS INTO, UH, THE REST OF THE, UH, BOND PROGRAM
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CITYWIDE.SO, TRANSPORTATION, UH, SYSTEM OVERVIEW.
WE GOT 134 SIGNALS OUT THERE, ABOUT TO HAVE 135.
YOU MAY BE AWARE OF THE NEW TRAFFIC SIGNAL IN WATERVIEW.
FRANK JOHNSON, WHICH IS ON THE WEST SIDE OF UTD.
UH, THAT SHOULD BE COMING ON IN THE NEXT, UH, THREE TO FOUR WEEKS.
WE'VE GOT, UH, 26 SCHOOLS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY, AND AT THAT WE'VE GOT 90 FLASHERS, UH, SCHOOL ZONE FLASHERS THERE WITH OUR RECTANGULAR RAPID FLASHING BEACONS.
YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH THOSE.
UM, GREAT, UH, GREAT EXAMPLE OF ONE OF THOSE IS RIGHT THERE AT THE ARAPAHO TRANSIT CENTER.
UH, PUSH THE BUTTON OR WALK THROUGH IT.
UH, THE YELLOW CAUTION LIGHTS COME ON OVER A THOUSAND STREET LIGHTS THAT ARE OWNED AND OPERATED BY THE CITY, UH, HERE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY WITH OVER 22,000 SIGNS.
AND THEN 400 LANE MILES OF, UH, ROADWAY PAVEMENT MARKINGS, AND 27 BIKE LANE MILES WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.
SO COMPONENTS OF A TYPICAL TRAFFIC SIGNAL, WHETHER THIS IS A NEW TRAFFIC SIGNAL OR THE RE REBUILD RECONSTRUCTION OF A TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
I WON'T GO THROUGH EACH OF THESE.
UH, CERTAINLY, UH, WILLING TO ANSWER QUESTIONS, UH, ABOUT THE PARTICULAR ELEMENTS IN THAT.
BUT THIS REALLY JUST GIVES YOU A FLAVOR OF THE VARIOUS ELEMENTS THAT WE HAVE IN, IN TERMS OF EQUIPMENT, UH, BOTH THE HARDWARE AS WELL AS THE PHYSICAL INFRASTRUCTURE WITH THE SIGNAL POLES, AND THEN THE CAMERAS AND SOME OF THE TECHNOLOGY ELEMENTS DOWN ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT CORNER THERE WITH THE CONFLICT MONITOR AND, UH, BATTERY BACKUP INFORMA, UH, BATTERY BACKUP UNIT AND THE ADVANCED, UH, TRAFFIC SIGNAL CONTROLLER.
SO LOOKING AT OUR 2021 TRAFFIC SIGNAL, UM, BOND IMPROVEMENTS THERE ON THE TOP, STARTING IN THE TOP LEFT IN THE PLANNING ZONE, WE'VE GOT, UH, FLOYD AND SYNERGY.
UH, WE ARE IN THE PLANNING PROCESS WITH THAT.
I'VE GOT A FOLLOW UP SLIDE ON THAT.
WE DO HAVE A, A PARTNERSHIP WITH SOME GRANT FUNDING ASSOCIATED WITH A PROJECT TO ADVANCE THAT PARTICULAR INTERSECTION, MOVING IT MAYBE AWAY FROM A TRAFFIC SIGNAL INTO A, UH, TO A, A ROUNDABOUT.
SHIFTING OVER TO THE RIGHT AND THE DESIGN COLUMN, YOU CAN SEE THAT WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE OUR SE SEVEN SIGNALS THAT ARE UNDER, UH, DESIGN RIGHT NOW.
YOU CAN SEE THE TOP THREE ARE BOLDED A LITTLE BIT.
THAT'S JUST TO INDICATE THAT THOSE ARE RAPIDLY APPROACHING FINAL DESIGN AND MOVING INTO THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE, UH, HERE BY THE, UH, FIRST OF THE NEW YEAR WITHIN THE CONSTRUCTION, UH, ELEMENT HERE.
WE'VE GOT FOUR OF THOSE INTERSECTIONS UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
AND YOU CAN SEE WITH THE DATES ON THE OUTSIDE OF THERE THAT, UH, BY THE END OF THE CALENDAR YEAR, WE HOPE TO BE COMPLETE WITH THOSE, WITH THOSE FOUR.
AND THAT LEADS TO THE FACT THAT WE'VE GOT EIGHT OF THOSE INTERSECTIONS COMPLETED AS PART OF OUR 2021 BOND PROGRAM.
AND ONE OF THOSE WAS A NEW ONE THERE AT FIRE STATION FIVE ON RENNER ROAD.
SO FLOYD AND SYNERGY, THIS IS A UTD MOBILITY IMPROVEMENT PROJECT.
WE ENGAGED WITH OUR, WITH OUR FRIENDS DOWN AT NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENT, UH, HAD SOME OTHER ISSUES ASSOCIATED WITH THIS HIGH PEDESTRIAN CORRIDOR.
AND, UM, CAME UP WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO FUND SOME SAFETY ENHANCEMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE SYNERGY CORRIDOR BETWEEN WATERVIEW AND, AND FLOYD.
THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE, RATHER THAN A SIGNAL AT FLOYD.
AND, AND, UH, SYNERGY, A NEW ROUNDABOUT AT THAT LOCATION, THE RECONSTRUCTION OF THE EXISTING SIGNAL THERE AT RUT FORD AND SYNERGY, THAT'S A SPAN WIRE, UH, AN OLDER TYPE OR MORE ECONOMICAL TYPE OF, UH, TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
SO WE'D, WE'D LOOK TO REPLACE, RECONSTRUCT THAT WITH A TYPICAL, UH, TRAFFIC SIGNAL THAT YOU SEE WITHIN, WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AT, AT MOST OF OUR OTHER, WELL, AT ALL OF OUR OTHER INTERSECTIONS.
SO WITH THAT, YOU CAN SEE THAT WE'RE, UH, APPROACHING DESIGN AND FY 2027.
WE'RE MOVING THROUGH, UM, ALL THE BOXES.
WE NEED TO CHECK ON THE GRANT, UH, ELEMENT ASSOCIATED WITH THAT GRANT ADMINISTRATION SIDE TO GET THAT MOVING FORWARD.
SO DESIGN IN 2027, UH, WITH CONSTRUCTION AND, UH, AND THE 2029 TIMEFRAME, THE TRAFFIC, TRAFFIC INFRASTRUCTURE BACKGROUND.
JUST A A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHERE WE'RE COMING FROM.
WE'RE LOOKING AT ROUGHLY $585,000 FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OR FOR A NEWLY CONSTRUCTED TRAFFIC SIGNAL OR THE RECONSTRUCTION OF AN EXISTING FACILITY.
TRADITIONALLY, WE DO USE BOND FUNDS ON THOSE SIGNAL, UH, RECONSTRUCTIONS AND ON NEW CONSTRUCTION AS WELL AS MAJOR UPGRADES.
WE LOOK TO TARGET THAT 25 TO 30 YEAR IN TERMS OF, UH, LIFECYCLE FOR THOSE SIGNALS.
THEY CAN GO A LITTLE BIT LONGER, BUT THEN YOU RUN INTO SOME HIGHER MAINTENANCE AND SAFETY ISSUES.
AND SO WE, UH, INDUSTRY STANDARD IS AT 25 TO 30 YEARS.
THAT REALLY PUTS US ON POINT THEN TO,
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UH, ROTATE THROUGH ABOUT FIVE TO SEVEN SIGNAL REBUILDS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS TO KEEP PACE.SHOWED THE SLIDE EARLIER ON THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL, UH, REBUILD ELEMENTS, JUST KINDA REITERATING THEM THERE WITH THE NEW POLE, NEW MA ARMS, MA ARMS, WHAT GOES OUT OVER THE, UH, THE TRAVEL LANES AND SOME OF THE OTHER ELEMENTS WITH THE NEW, UH, CABINET AND CONTROLLER BATTERY BACKUP.
UM, OF COURSE, THE PEDESTRIAN ELEMENTS WITH, UH, A DA AND THEN REALLY THE UNDERGROUND, THE UNDERGROUND INFRASTRUCTURE IS, IS PROBABLY MORE ONE OF THE HIGHER, UH, COST ELEMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE, WITH THE RECONSTRUCTION OR NEW BUILDING.
SO WITH OUR TRAFFIC OPERATIONS, UH, PRIORITIZATION, UM, LOOKING AT OUR TRAFFIC, UH, LOOKING AT OUR TRAFFIC SIGNAL ON THE REBUILD, WE LOOK AT THE AGE OF THOSE TRAFFIC SIGNALS.
WE CONDUCT, UM, ANNUAL ASSESSMENTS AS PART OF OUR PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE PROGRAM.
AND THEN CERTAINLY THE, UH, A DA ELEMENT IS IMPORTANT AS PART OF, UH, PART OF THE DECISION PROCESS HERE WITH NEW TRAFFIC SIGNALS.
UM, WE, WE, WE PAIR THAT WITH A SIGNAL WARRANT PRIORITIZATION STUDY THAT WE HAD COMPLETED WITH AN OUTSIDE CONSULTANT THAT TAKES A LOOKS AT, AT SOME OF OUR, UH, NON SIGNALED INTERSECTIONS AND PUT THE, PUT THAT IN AN ORDER FOR US AND ALLOWS US TO, UH, TO FEED, UH, OUR DECISION PROCESS.
AND THEN CERTAINLY NEW DEVELOPMENT.
IF WE HAVE A OPPORTUNITY FOR A, UH, CATALYST PROJECT, WE WOULD LIKE TO BE IN A POSITION OR HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO, TO, TO PARTICIPATE WITH THAT.
WITH OUR OTHER PROJECTS, UH, WE, WE AGAIN, LOOK AT THE SAFETY ELEMENT, A DA COMPLIANCE ELEMENT, AND THEN THE OVERALL SYSTEM OPTIMIZATION OVERALL, YOU CAN SEE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE SLIDE THERE, UH, WHERE WE STAND WITH, UH, WITH OUR, UH, WE'VE GOT ROUGHLY 16 SIGNALS THAT ARE 25 PLUS YEAR, UH, OLD.
AND SO WE WOULD LOOK TO MOVE, UH, OBVIOUSLY MOVE THOSE OFF THE TABLE FIRST, AND THEN MOVE FROM THE RIGHT SIDE WHERE WE HAVE THE NON A DA, UH, WHERE WE'VE GOT SIX TO 10 YEARS AND 11 TO 15 YEARS, GO AHEAD AND HANDLE UP ON THOSE WITH THE A DA COMPLIANCE ISSUE BECAUSE THEY DO HAVE SOME LIFE LEFT IN THEM.
AND THEN KIND OF MEET IN THE MIDDLE ON THE 21 TO 25 AND THE 16 TO 20 YEAR MAYBE IN A FUTURE BOND CYCLE.
SO WITH THAT, WE HAVE ABOUT 8.2 MILLION WITH A NEW TRAFFIC SIGNAL, UH, REBUILD, OR I'M SORRY, WITH TRAFFIC SIGNAL REBUILDS.
WE'VE GOT A TOTAL OF 14 OF THOSE.
AND THEN UNDER 3.8 MILLION AND THE NEW TRAFFIC SIGNALS, WE'RE LOOKING AT SEVEN NEW SIGNALS, UH, SYSTEM Y.
AND THEN WE'VE GOT UPGRADE OF OUR, OF OUR, UH, SCHOOL FLASHERS AS PART OF OUR OTHER PROJECTS.
THAT'S THAT OTHER CATEGORY THERE.
AND THEN WE'VE GOT 33 SIGNAL UPGRADES IN TERMS OF THE A DA, UH, ELEMENTS COMPLIANCE, UH, THAT WE'D LIKE TO LOOK AT THROUGHOUT THE, THROUGHOUT THE SYSTEM.
WE'VE HAD GREAT SUCCESS WITH TXDOT THROUGH THEIR HIGHWAY SAFETY IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, UH, HSIP, WHERE WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO LEVERAGE IN THE PAST AND GET A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT SIGNALS, UH, COMPLETED WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.
SO WE'VE GOT ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS IN THAT PARTICULAR PROGRAM THAT MAY ALLOW US TO LEVERAGE UP UPWARDS TO 4 MILLION.
AND THEN WE HAVE A ONE NEW ROUNDABOUT, UH, ON THE COLLINS, UH, COLLINS AND FALL CREEK, UH, INTERSECTION HERE.
AGAIN, LOOKING AT THAT 25 YEARS, UH, WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT 16 OF THOSE SIGNALS.
UH, YOU'RE, YOU'RE SEEING THERE'S THE, THE, THE RED BOX AROUND THAT.
WE'VE GOT 16 OF THOSE SIGNALS.
TWO OF THOSE ARE TXDOT SIGNALS, SO WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO TOUCH THOSE WITH, UH, OR AT LEAST UTILIZE BOND FUNDING ON THAT.
BUT THE 14 REBUILD WOULD BE, UH, TAKING CARE OF 14 OF THOSE 16, UH, THAT ARE IN THE OLDER CATEGORY, 25 YEAR PLUS.
SO THIS REALLY JUST KIND OF SUMMARIZES WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WITH THOSE, UH, PRIORITIZED PROJECTS WITHIN OUR TRAFFIC OPERATION.
AGAIN, THE 14 TRAFFIC SIGNAL REBUILDS, UH, ON THE LEFT COLUMN, THE CENTER COLUMN WOULD BE THOSE SEVEN REBUILDS OR SEVEN NEW SIGNALS, MY APOLOGIES.
AND THEN UNDER THAT OTHER PROJECT CATEGORY, UH, WE'VE GOT THOSE FOUR PROJECTS, UH, THAT, UH, REALLY END UP, UH, WITH A PRICE TAG OF ABOUT 18.8 MILLION.
THIS SLIDE REALLY JUST GIVES YOU A, GIVES YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO VISUALIZE WHERE WE'VE BEEN IN TERMS OF THE 2021 BOND PROGRAM, WHERE WE ARE WITH THE 2021 BOND PROGRAM, AND WHERE WE LOOK TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THOSE 2026 BO, UH, CANDIDATE PROJECTS, WHETHER IT'S THE SIGNAL REBUILD AND RED, OR THE NEW SIGNAL LOCATION, UH, AND THE, AND THE BLUE.
AND SO YOU COULD SEE THE SYNERGY FLOYD CALL OUT THERE, UP ON THE NORTHWEST, NORTHWEST SIDE OF TOWN IN THAT PROPOSED, UH, COLLINS FALL CREEK AROUND ABOUT, UH, RIGHT THERE, UH, NORTH CENTRAL PART OF THE COMMUNITY.
MOVING ON TO OUR MOBILITY SIDE WITH OUR ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PROJECT PRIORITIZATION, REALLY WHAT'S INFORMING AND FEEDING THOSE, UH, THOSE
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RECOMMENDATIONS REALLY COMES RIGHT OUT OF OUR ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN.THAT THAT PLAN, AS YOU MAY RECALL, WAS APPROVED BACK IN THE EARLY PART OF 2023.
SO WE'RE USING THAT AS A ROADMAP TO HELP US ADVANCE THOSE, UH, THOSE PROJECT ELEMENTS AND THOSE ENHANCEMENTS.
AS PART OF THE, UM, BIKE FRIENDLY APPLICATION PROCESS, WE DID GET A REPORT CARD BACK, SO WE'RE UTILIZING THAT INFORMATION TO HELP US, UM, TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS.
WE'VE COMPL, UH, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF COMPLETING A SIDEWALK GAP ANALYSIS AS WELL AS MOVING FORWARD WITH AN A DA TRANSITION PLAN.
AND THEN THE SAFER STREETS RICHARDSON PROGRAM, WHICH LOOKS TO REDUCE, UH, SERIOUS AND FATAL INJURIES WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.
UH, THEY'RE MOVING, UH, THEY'RE ABOUT HALFWAY THROUGH, SO WE'RE UTILIZING THE PRE PRELIMINARY ANALYSIS OFF THOSE STUDIES, UH, TO HELP US INFORM OUR PLAN.
WHAT I DO WANNA MENTION WITH RESPECT TO OUR, UH, PRIORITIZATION PROJECT, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT COVERING A WHOLE BUNCH ON THE SIDEWALK ELEMENT THAT'LL BE, BE COVERED IN DECEMBER AS PART OF THE SIDE, UH, AS PART OF THE, UH, SIDEWALK AND ALLEYS, UH, STREETS AND ALLEYS PRESENTATION.
SO, JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A HEADS UP ON THAT.
WE ARE HELPING WORK WITH THAT.
BUT, UH, FOR THIS PRESENTATION, WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT THE HIGHER, UH, ACTIVE TRAIL, THE HIGHER TRAILS AND, UH, BIKE LANE ELEMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN.
THIS A TP HIGH PRIORITY PROJECTS.
THIS COMES RIGHT OUT OF OUR ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN.
UH, YOU CAN SEE, AGAIN, THIS IS JUST AN OPPORTUNITY TO VISUALIZE, TO SEE WHAT THAT A TP, UH, GUIDING DOCUMENT LOOKS LIKE.
THEN THOSE PROJECTS THAT ARE FUNDED OR COMPLETE AND GREEN, WE'VE GOT 2026 BOND, UM, BOND CANDIDATE PROJECTS IN THE RED, AND THEN WE'VE GOT A CATEGORY IDENTIFIED AS FUTURE FOR A REASON.
UH, THOSE WOULD BE FUTURE FOR A REASON, BECAUSE WE'D LOOK FOR OTHER, OTHER MEMBERS IN THE COMMUNITY, UH, WHETHER THAT'S A DEVELOPER OR WHETHER IT IS EXISTING, UM, COMPANY OPERATING THAT MAY BE A PARTNER, A SUBSTANTIAL PARTNER WITH US.
CASE IN POINT, THE KANSAS CITY SOUTHERN RAILWAY, THE SOUTH CENTRAL PART OF THE COMMUNITY UP TO THE NORTHWEST THAT'S ON THE KCS LINE OR THE CP KC LINE.
NOW, THERE'S BEEN SOME SUCCESS WITH SOME COMMUNITIES IN UTILIZING A PORTION OF THAT RIDE OF WAY FOR HIKE AND BIKE TRAILS.
IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO WORK WITH THOSE, UH, THOSE LARGER RAILROADS, UH, TO, TO, TO SNEAK A LITTLE BIT OF THAT RIGHT OF WAY.
ANOTHER EXAMPLE WOULD BE UP IN THE CITY LINE AREA.
YOU CAN SEE JUST EAST OF PLANO.
WE HAVE TWO LARGE VACANT LOTS UP THERE.
THERE'S A MISSING TRAIL SEGMENT THERE.
SO IS THAT, IS THAT PROPERTY WOULD GO THROUGH DEVELOPMENT, WE WOULD LOOK TO PARTNER.
SO JUST A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES ON THAT FUTURE FOR A REASON CATEGORY.
SO LOOKING AT THOSE, UH, THE OVERALL PROJECT PRIORITIZATION, YOU CAN SEE THAT WE HAVE PRIORI PRIORITIZED OUR, SOME OF OUR EXISTING ELEMENT, OUR EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO OWENS TRAIL, UM, WE'VE GOT SOME A DA AND SAFETY UPGRADE INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, THAT WE'D LIKE TO ADDRESS.
UM, WE'VE GOT ABOUT FOUR LOCATIONS THAT ARE EXISTING THAT WE, WE'D LIKE TO SEE SOME A DA AND SAFETY UPGRADES WITH THOSE THAT, THAT STREET CROSSING.
YOU CAN SEE THAT THE ASTERISK THERE.
WE MAY HAVE, MAY, MAY PUT THAT IN A, PUT US IN A POSITION THEN, UH, TO SEEK SOME, SOME GRANT FUNDING TO MOVE THOSE ALONG.
WE'VE GOT THE POLK STREET THERE BETWEEN GREENVILLE AND GROVE, UH, TRAIL ELEMENT THERE, THAT TOO COULD BE LEVERAGED INTO A GRANT OPPORTUNITY.
AND THEN TWO, TWO, UH, TRAIL SEGMENTS ON, ON CAMPBELL.
ONE BETWEEN FLOYD AND COLLINS, AND THEN GREENVILLE.
GREENVILLE, I'M SORRY, GLENVILLE AND YALE.
THE THE OTHER ONE THAT'S REALLY INTERESTING IS THE, THE BRAND IN BRECKENRIDGE TRAIL.
UH, WE'VE GOT SOME EXISTING, UM, WE'VE GOT SOME EXISTING TRAIL OUT THERE.
WE COMPLETED THROUGH OUR, OUR CAP PROJECTS, UH, A SOUTHERN ELEMENT OF THAT.
WE'VE GOT REALLY JUST A SHORT, LESS THAN A HALF MILE SEGMENT UP ON THE NORTH, NORTH END TO CONNECT TO, UH, THE PLANO TRAIL.
THAT'S ABOUT A HALF A BLOCK NORTH OF THE CITY LIMITS.
SO IT WOULD BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO CONNECT OUR COMMUNITY WITH PLANO.
AND THAT, UH, MERRITT CREEK TRAIL THEN CONNECTS ONTO THE WEST SIDE OF THE, UH, OF THE GREATER BRECKENRIDGE PARK AREA.
ALONG, ALONG WITH THAT DOWN ON THE SOUTH END.
THEN, UM, WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO, UH, WORK THROUGH THE, THE INTERSECTION THERE AT, UH, PARK VISTA AND EXETER TO IMPROVE THAT, AS WELL AS IMPROVE A, UM, A DECOM DECOMPOSED GRANITE TRAIL SEGMENT THAT WOULD COMPLETE THE, THE, THE TRAIL SEGMENT WITHIN THE PARK ITSELF.
AGAIN, JUST TAKING A LOOK AT THOSE.
WE'VE, UM, TRIED TO VISUALIZE THAT, SHOWING
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YOU WHERE THEY ARE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.UH, AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THE OWENS TRAIL.
THAT'S EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE WOULD LIKE, UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS.
WE'VE GOT THOSE OTHER FOUR, INTER FOUR ROADWAY INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'D LIKE TO TAKE A LOOK AT.
AND THEN YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THESE OTHER ELEMENTS.
THE RENTER TRAIL, THE CAMPBELL TRAIL, UH, BOTH ON THE EAST AND WEST SIDE OF 75.
AND THEN THE BRAND BRECKENRIDGE, UM, TRAIL UP IN THE PANHANDLE.
AND THEN DOWN ON THE SOUTH, YOU SEE THE, UH, POLK, POLK STREET, UH, BETWEEN GREENVILLE AND ENG GROVE.
SO, GETTING TO OUR OVERALL PROGRAM SUMMARY FOR THE DEPARTMENT, THE, FOR THE TRANSPORTATION MOBILITY DEPARTMENT, UH, WHAT WE SEE IS 18.8 MILLION FOR THOSE PROJECTS WITHIN THAT OPERATION, WITHIN THE OPERATION.
SO THAT'S YOUR TRAFFIC REBUILDS, 8.2 MILLION.
THAT WOULD BE BE THOSE 14 INTERSECTIONS.
SEVEN, UM, SEVEN NEW TRAFFIC SIGNALS.
AND THEN THE OTHER CATEGORY, UH, WE'VE GOT 6.8 MILLION WITHIN THAT.
THEN WITHIN THE ACT OF TRANSPORTATION, YOU CAN SEE WE'RE AT 15.3 MILLION UP.
AGAIN, LEANING INTO UP, UH, UPGRADING THE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE AT 2.5 MILLION.
THEN, AND THEN NEW ELEMENTS WITHIN THE INFRASTRUCTURE AT, UH, 12.8.
WE DID TAKE IN, UH, THE ACCOUNT OF INFLATIONARY PRESSURE.
SO WE'RE USING A 5% ANNUAL COM, UH, COMPOUNDED, UM, RATIO ON THAT.
A LOT OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH SOME OF THE CONSTRUCTION, UH, CONSTRUCTION PRICES WE'RE SEEING.
AND THEN CERTAINLY THE TECHNOLOGY THAT'S WITHIN THOSE TRAFFIC SIGNAL SIGNALS OUT THERE.
WE'VE SEEN QUITE A BIT OF PRESSURE ON US OVER THE LAST THREE TO FIVE YEARS.
SO WE'RE REALLY ROLLING THAT OUT WITH THAT, UH, 5%, UM, RATIO.
WE'RE LOOKING AT A TOTAL PRO PROGRAM AT JUST UNDER $40 MILLION AT $39.6 MILLION.
GOING BACK TO THE OCTOBER SIX BLOCKING EXERCISE, UM, THAT WAS FACILITATED WITH THE COUNCIL.
WE UNDERSTOOD THAT THERE MIGHT BE A, A 15 MILLION OR A $20 MILLION OPTION.
AND SO THAT'S HOW WE TRIED TO TAKE A LOOK AT OUR, OUR RECOMMENDATIONS HERE.
SO, LOOKING AT OUR RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, THERE'RE AT THE TOP ROW, 15 MILLION HAS THOSE 14 SIGNAL REBUILDS, UH, WOULD BE INCLUDED WITH IT, WITH THAT, UM, INFLATION, UH, ESCALATED PRICE POINT THAT, AS YOU SEE, HAS NO NEW TRAFFIC SIGNALS ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
UNDER OUR OTHER PROJECT CATEGORY, WE'VE GOT, UH, THE, THE SCHOOL ZONES AS WELL AS ENHANCEMENTS TO A DA, UH, FOR A DA COMPLIANCE ON HALF OF THOSE 33 INTERSECTIONS.
AND THEN THE OWEN TRAILS UPGRADE AND THE STREET CROSSING, UH, UPGRADES AS, AS PART OF THE, UH, ACT OF TRANSPORTATION, THAT GIVES US A $15 MILLION PRICE TAG.
UH, AGAIN, ACCOUNTING FOR INFLATION, WE DROPPED DOWN TO THE $20 MILLION OPTION.
NOW YOU START TO SEE SOME ENHANCEMENTS THERE IN TERMS OF ADDITIONS TO, UH, THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
TWO NEW SIGNALS, ONE AT RENTER AND SHARP, ANOTHER ONE AT BELTLINE AND WEATHERED UNDER OTHER PROJECTS, THE COMPLETION OF THOSE REMAINING, UH, INTERSECTIONS THAT WE HAVE.
SO THAT WOULD GET OUR FULL 33 INTERSECTIONS UP TO 80 DA COMPLIANCE.
AND THEN YOU REALLY SEE THE OPPORTUNITY, UH, WITH THIS 20 MILLION TO START ADDING A LITTLE BIT TO ADDING TO THAT INFRASTRUCTURE WITH THE ACT TRANSPORTATION PLAN WITH THE BRECK, UH, BRANDON BRECKENRIDGE TRAIL, AND THEN THE POLK STREET, UH, GREENVILLE, UM, GREENVILLE TO GROVE SEGMENT.
AGAIN, THAT WOULD PROVIDE US OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOME PRELIMINARY DESIGN ON THAT.
THAT THEN REALLY SETS US UP FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO LEVERAGE THAT BY GETTING SOME, SOME PRELIMINARY DESIGN.
WE REFINED OUR COST ESTIMATES AND REALLY HAVE SKIN IN THE GAME, AND WE GO TALK TO SOME OF THOSE, UH, PARTNERING, UM, AGENCIES TO, TO ADVANCE THAT.
SO THAT LEAVES US WITH OUR UNFUNDED LINE THERE AT ABOUT 19.6.
UH, THAT LEAVES OUT ABOUT FIVE SIGNALS, FIVE NEW SIGNALS THAT THAT DO WARRANT.
AND THEN SOME OF OUR OTHER HSIP ELEMENTS, UH, WOULD, WOULD DROP OUT OF THAT, AS WELL AS SOME, SOME ADDITIONAL, UM, ADDITIONAL ITEMS IN THE ACT OF TRANSPORTATION.
SO AT THIS POINT, WOULD LOOK FOR, UH, SOME FEEDBACK FROM CITY COUNCIL.
CERTAINLY, UH, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE THAT WOULD HELP US REFINE THOSE, UH, TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY PROJECTS.
WE UNDERSTAND THERE'S OTHER, UH, THERE'S OTHER NEEDS ACROSS THE COMMUNITY.
SO AS YOU MOVE, AS YOU MOVE INTO THE, UH, NEXT SERIES OF PRESENTATIONS, UH, THAT'LL HELP AGAIN, HELP US REFINE THOSE, UM, TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY PROJECTS, UH, DRIVING ON THAT, UH, FEBRUARY 9TH TIMEFRAME TO THE POTENTIAL CALL FOR ELECTION IN MAIN.
MAYOR, IF, IF I CAN MARK, GO BACK.
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GO BACK ONE SLIDE.SO, UM, YOU'RE GONNA SEE THIS SLIDE AT THE END OF EVERY PRESENTATION THAT WE DO, RIGHT? I WAS AFRAID OF THAT.
AND, AND, BUT I THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, AND WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL GUESSTIMATE, UH, YOU KNOW, A RANGE.
THIS WAS PRETTY EASY WITH THE 15 TO $20 MILLION WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE FOCUS ON INFRASTRUCTURE THAT THE COUNCIL SAID THEY WANTED TO, UM, REALLY, UM, ENGAGE.
SO FOR EACH OF THESE PRESENTATIONS, WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU THE RATIONALE IN WHICH WE MADE OUR PRE OUR, OUR RECOMMENDATION.
YOU CAN SEE THIS ONE WAS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD, PARTICULARLY IN THE MOBILITY.
YOU'VE GOT THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN.
THE PRIORITIES THAT WE LISTED HERE ARE DIRECTLY OUT OF THAT PLAN.
THAT PLAN WAS DEVELOPED WITH A TON OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND HAS BEEN ADOPTED FOR NOW OVER A YEAR AND A HALF OR SO.
SO THIS IS THE FIRST CHANCE TO REALLY LAUNCH ON THAT, UH, THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL REBUILDS.
UH, I FEEL STRONGLY THAT'S THE RIGHT NUMBER.
THIS IS THE ONLY CHANCE WE HAVE, UM, ON, ON A, ON ON ANY KIND OF A NOTEWORTHY SCALE TO CONTINUE TO, UH, REINVEST AND KEEP UP WITH THE REBUILDS OF THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS.
AND THEN OF COURSE, THE NEW, THE NEW SIGNALS ARE ALL WARRANTED THERE.
WHAT THE BEST WAY FOR YOU TO SPEND YOUR TIME TONIGHT? UH, IF THERE'S ANY CURIOSITIES ABOUT WHY SOMETHING ON THE BOTTOM LINE DIDN'T MAKE IT, UH, MARK HAS COVERED THE FIRST TWO LINES THOROUGHLY HERE.
IF THERE'S ANY CURIOSITIES ABOUT THE BOTTOM LINE, WHY SOMETHING DIDN'T MAKE IT, WE'RE HAPPY TO TALK THROUGH THAT IN A LITTLE BIT MORE, MORE DETAIL.
OR IF YOU LOOK AT THIS AND SAY, ACTUALLY, $25 MILLION SEEMS RIGHT BECAUSE WE THINK, YOU KNOW, FIVE WARRANTED TRAFFIC SIGNALS IS TOO MANY TO LEAVE ON THE, ON THE CUTTING FLOOR, OR IF THERE'S SOME RATIONALE LIKE THAT.
THAT'S REALLY THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR TONIGHT.
ONCE WE FINISH ALL THESE DEEP DIVES, WE'RE GONNA COME BACK WITH ALL OF THESE FINAL SLIDES AND REALLY START TO COMPARE AND CONTRAST BETWEEN THE DIFFERENT AREAS OF, UH, POSSIBLE, UM, THE DIFFERENT PROPOSITION AREAS.
UM, AND SO REALLY TONIGHT WE'RE JUST TRYING TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY CURIOSITIES, UM, REGARDING ANYTHING THAT WASN'T RECOMMENDED.
UM, AND, UH, AND THEN WE'LL TAKE THAT FEEDBACK AND, AND COME BACK TO YOU, UM, WHEN WE HAVE THAT FIRST REFINEMENT BRIEFING.
UH, ON SLIDE SEVEN, THE PRICE OF 580 500,000 WAS GIVEN PER SIGNAL.
SO IF YOU HAVE TWO OR THREE SIGNALS THERE, YOU'RE GONNA MULTIPLY THAT PRICE.
NO, THAT WOULD BE THE, THAT WOULD JUST BE THE INTERSECTION, THE ENTIRE INTERSECTION.
NOW, IF I'M UNDERSTANDING THE QUESTION, THE FIVE, THE 5 85? YES.
THAT'S, THAT'S FOR THE ENTIRE SIGNAL SIGNALED INTERSECTION.
ALL, ALL LEGS OF THE INTERSECTION.
SO ON SLIDE 11, AND THEN THE LAST SLIDE WE JUST LOOKED AT THAT DON SPOKE TO, UH, WE USE THE TERM NEW SIGNAL LOCATION.
AND THEN ON THE FINAL SLIDE THAT SHOWS OUR OPTIONS, WE USE NEW TRAFFIC SIGNALS.
IS THE TERM NEW SIGNAL LOCATION, IS THAT, UM, NEW SIGNALS FOR A LOCATION, OR IS THIS A NEW INTERSECTION BUILT OUT WHERE THERE'S AN INTERSECTION WITH NO SIGNAL AND WE NEED TO, IT'S A CURRENT INTERSECTION THAT DOES NOT HAVE, THAT IS NOT CURRENTLY SIGNALED AND EITHER THROUGH TRAFFIC VOLUMES OR PRIMARILY THROUGH, UM, SAFETY ISSUES, UH, NUMBER OF CRASHES AT THAT PARTICULAR INTERSECTION, UH, WOULD WARRANT FOR A A NEW SIGNAL.
AND IS THAT THE SAME FOR THIS LAST SLIDE THAT SHOWS THE RECOMMENDATIONS NEW TRAFFIC SIGNALS? WHICH, WHICH SLIDE IS THAT SLIDE? UH, THE LAST ONE THAT SHOWS US OUR OPTIONS? THIS ONE? YES.
SO LIKE, AND I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER, UM, YOU KNOW, IS RENDERER AND SHARP, IS THERE A SIGNAL THERE? DOES BELTLINE WEATHER RED HAVE A SIGNAL? NO.
ALL THOSE DO NOT HAVE SIGNALS CURRENTLY.
THOSE ARE ALL RECOMMENDED TO BE RECOMMENDED NEW SIGNAL, NEW SIGNALIZING INTERSECTIONS.
THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE FOR NOW.
ON, SO ONE, YOU KNOW WHAT I PLAN TO DO, DAWN, JUST FOR YOUR REFERENCES, I'M MAKING NOTES IN HERE OF THE DIFFERENT POTENTIAL TRADE OFFS AND KIND OF TAKING THESE ONE BY ONE MM-HMM
AND SO ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE, UM, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAVE ON, ON THIS ONE, THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE IS FOR THE A DA COMPLIANCE UPGRADES, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE, THE LEGAL SLASH LITIGATION SLASH REGULATORY RISK THAT WE CARRY AS A CITY BY NOT GOING AND JUST FULLY UPGRADING EVERYTHING TO BE ADA A COMPLIANT MM-HMM
SO, SO IF AS PART OF THAT A DA TRANSITION PLAN, IF WE'VE GOT A PLAN THAT DEMONSTRATES THAT WE'RE IN A MEANINGFUL WAY CHECKING THOSE OFF, THEY UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'VE GOT A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF, OF INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND SO NOT EVERYBODY CAN GO OUT THERE AND SPEND, YOU KNOW, FIVE, 10, $15 MILLION A YEAR TAKING CARE OF THOSE.
BUT AS LONG AS YOU HAVE THAT PLAN AND YOU'RE SHOWING, UM, BENEFICIAL MEASURED PROGRESS TO ADDRESS THOSE, THEN YOU'RE IN COMPLIANCE.
LET ME LET, LEMME GIVE A DIFFERENT VIEW ON THAT THOUGH.
FOR $2.6 MILLION, I THINK THAT FOR $2.6 MILLION
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TO, TO, TO FINISH THE REMAIN BETWEEN THE, THE TOP BOX THERE AND THE BOTTOM BOX, I THINK THAT THAT'S A VERY LOW BAR TO SAY THAT WE WOULDN'T ADDRESS A A DA COMPLIANCE AT THESE INTERSECTIONS.I THINK IT'S A VERY LOW BAR TO BE ABLE TO SAY WE WERE A TO, TO, TO IT TO BE ABLE TO SAY WE'RE A HUNDRED PERCENT COMPLIANT FOR SOMETHING AS IMPORTANT AS THE A DA AT INTERSECTIONS.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, THE $1.3 MILLION OPTION, ADDING THAT, UM, I WOULD PROBABLY COME BACK TO YOU AND, AND SAY, YOU KNOW, LET'S DO A $16.3 MILLION MM-HMM
OPTION AND LET'S DO ALL OF THE AADA INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS ALL AT ONCE SO THAT WE CAN BE COMPLETELY COMPLIANT CITYWIDE.
I THINK IT'S A VERY LOW, I THINK $1.3 MILLION IS A, IS KIND OF A POOR EXCUSE NOT TO ADDRESS SOMETHING AS IMPORTANT AS A DA CITY CITYWIDE MR. MAGNUS.
IT'S A BIG WIN BY BY BY CHECKING THAT OFF.
ONE LESS THING FOR YOU TO HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IN THE FUTURE TOO, PROBABLY.
OH, I JUST NO, I WAS JUST SAYING IS, HEY, IT'S ONE LESS THING FOR YOU TO HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IN THE FUTURE TOO.
UM, UH, I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION ON DOES, AND, AND, UM, YOU MIGHT HAVE COVERED IT.
DOES THIS INCLUDE THE TECHNOLOGY THAT WE, UH, TALKED ABOUT, UH, MAYBE ABOUT A YEAR OR SO AGO? I THINK IT WAS, UH, THROUGH UTD AND ANOTHER CORPORATION CALLED DOT.
DOES THIS INCLUDE INCORPORATING, UM, SOME OF THAT TECHNOLOGY TO, TO MONITOR TRAFFICKING FROM, FROM, YOU KNOW, POTENTIAL, UH, QUANTITY OF CARS COMING THROUGH, UH, AT CERTAIN TIMES AND MONITORING AND SORT OF, THERE'S, THERE'S AN ELEMENT, THERE'S A, THERE IS AN ELEMENT OF THAT AS WE DID GO THROUGH AND RECONSTRUCT THOSE SIGNALS.
WE MARK, I THINK THE QUESTION WAS DOES THIS, DOES THIS HAVE, DOES THIS HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH DOLLY TECHNOLOGY? YEAH.
SO THERE, LET ME ASK FREE, JIM, JUST TO VERIFY FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT KNOW DOLLY IS A PROGRAM THAT WE'VE BEEN PARTNERING ON WITH UTD THAT IS USING AI TO PREDICT AND TO BETTER MANAGE TRAFFIC SIGNALS.
SO, SO HAS ANY OF THE TECHNOLOGY ENVISIONED HERE SPENT, HAS ANY OF THESE DOLLARS SPENT ON THAT TECHNOLOGY? SO YES AND NO.
IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE THE SOFTWARE THAT SUPPORTS DOLLY, WHICH IS TECHNICALLY A SOFTWARE, BUT EVERYTHING BEHIND THE SOFTWARE, THE HARDWARE NEEDED AT THESE INTERSECTIONS, WE ARE UPGRADING THEM TO THE LATEST HARDWARE TECHNOLOGY THAT WAY DO DOLLY CAN FUNCTION MORE EFFICIENTLY.
SO IT'S JUST A SOFTWARE PROGRAM, UM, BY UTD AND WE'RE MOVING INTO THE THIRD PHASE AND WORKING WITH THEM TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT PROGRAM.
BUT IN ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD, WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME OF THESE EQUIPMENT UPGRADED AND BROUGHT TO THE NEXT LEVEL.
HOW MANY, UH, WELL, WE'VE BEEN TESTING THIS, UH, OR TESTING IT FOR WHAT, ABOUT A YEAR OR SO? WE'VE HAD TWO PHASES.
WE COMPLETED THE FIRST PHASE BACK IN, I WANNA SAY 2022 BEFORE I STARTED.
AND THEN THERE WAS A SECOND PHASE THAT WE WRAPPED UP LAST YEAR.
UH, THERE WAS A THIRD PHASE THAT THEY WANT TO TEST IN A MORE, UH, INTERACTIVE ENVIRONMENT WITH PEDESTRIANS AND LOT MORE INTERACTION GOING ON AND THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT AREAS, INCLUDING SPRING VALLEY.
SO WE HAVEN'T GONE TO THE THIRD PHASE YET, BUT WE ARE WORKING ON EXPANDING IT.
THEY STARTED REALLY SMALL JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT DEPLOYING AND HAVING ADVERSE SAFETY ISSUES AT A LATER TIME.
DID YOU, YOU MENTIONED SPRING VALLEY, SO IS IS THAT PRIMARILY THE, THE, WHERE WE'RE DOING MOST OF THE TEST FITS AT THE MOMENT, OR IS IT SPRING? WE HAVEN'T REALLY FINALIZED ANYTHING YET.
FOR COPS CURRENTLY, I THINK IS WHAT HE IS ASKING.
THAT'S JUST PREDOMINANTLY AROUND THE UTD CAMPUS.
CURRENTLY JUST UTD CAMPUS LONG.
SO THERE'S NOTHING ON SPRING VALLEY CURRENTLY.
UM, I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, INITIATING NEW LOCATIONS FOR LIGHTS IS, IS THERE A SPECIFIC, UM, CODE REQUIREMENT ON THE DISTANCE BETWEEN HAVING TOO MANY LIGHTS? UH, IF, IF YOU HAVE A STOP OR SOMEONE DOESN'T PAY ATTENTION OR SEE A LIGHT, UH, OR IT'S TOO, IT'S THE DISTANCE IS NOT OR TOO, OR TOO CLOSE, PEOPLE DON'T PAY ATTENTION IN SOME AREAS.
I'M, I'M NOT GONNA GO INTO A FEW OF THE ONES I'M, I'M THINKING OF RIGHT NOW, BUT IS THAT TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION ALSO ABOUT POTENTIALLY ELIMINATING SOME AREAS OR MAYBE, UH, REDESIGNING THE AREAS? CAN I ANSWER THAT LAST QUESTION FIRST? OKAY.
WE HAVE NOT LOOKED AT ANYTHING IN TERMS OF ELIMINATING, UM, AS PART OF THIS PROGRAM.
WITH RESPECT TO YOUR FIRST QUESTION, YES, THERE'S A GENERAL RULE OF THUMB IN THE INDUSTRY
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WHERE YOU TRY TO AVOID, UH, TRAFFIC SIGNALS WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET OF EACH OTHER.UM, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF 'EM THAT ARE IN THE 700 FOOT RANGE AND THAT THAT'S FEASIBLE, BUT YOU CAN SEE WHERE THEY GET A LITTLE, THEY DON'T BEHAVE WELL BECAUSE OF THE STACKING ISSUES.
A A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THAT IS ARAPAHOE IN 75 IN, IN GREENVILLE, ARAPAHOE, AND THE PROXIMITY, HOW CLOSE THEY ARE THERE.
WE HAVE A COUPLE OTHERS, UH, ELSEWHERE, BUT, YOU KNOW, GENERALLY WE TRY TO AVOID THAT AND TRY TO TRY TO MEET THAT 1000 FOOT, UH, DISTANCE.
AND I KNOW THAT'S HARD SOMETIMES BECAUSE YOU HAVE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, SOME OF THEM ARE LANDLOCKED WHERE YOU ONLY HAVE ONE ENTRY AND ONE EXIT INTO A FACILITY AND, AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE A LIGHT THERE OF COURSE.
'CAUSE IT'S GONNA BE TOO DIFFICULT FOR SOMEONE TO TRAVEL OVER THREE TO FOUR LANES AT ONE TIME.
SO, YEAH, I, I'VE BEEN WATCHING ONE LOCATION THAT I FEEL LIKE HAS BEEN VERY, IT'S TOO CLOSE.
PEOPLE DON'T, BY THE TIME THEY RUN THROUGH THE FIRST ONE, THEY DON'T REALIZE THERE'S A SECOND LIGHT COMING UP AND THEY WILL JUST RUN THROUGH IT.
THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S WRECKS ON A REGULAR BASIS.
SO, AND I, AND I, I'VE ANALYZED IT MYSELF TO FIGURE OUT, WELL, WHAT CAN BE DONE? AND IT'S ONE OF THOSE SITUATIONS WHERE IT'S LANDLOCKED.
THERE'S ONLY ONE ENTRY IN AND ONE ENTRY OUT.
SO WHAT DO YOU DO? UH, I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT, UM, THAT YOUR TRAFFIC DEPARTMENT'S WORKING ON THAT JUST SORT OF, UH, CURTAIL THAT OR, OR BRING AWARENESS TO SOME OF THOSE ISSUES AT THAT YOU REALLY CAN'T CHANGE.
I MEAN, I WOULDN'T, I, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WOULD CHANGE IT.
OBVIOUSLY WE COULD TALK ABOUT IT LATER.
IF, IF, IF YOU WANNA PROVIDE A LIST OF THOSE, UH, THAT, THAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN, UH, WE COULD CERTAINLY REVIEW THAT.
WE CAN GO BACK AND, AND WORK WITH OUR ENGINEERS AND FIND OUT, UH, WHAT, WHAT, WHICH OF THOSE DO AN ASSESSMENT OF THOSE PARTICULAR INTERSECTIONS THAT ARE INSIDE OF THAT THOUSAND FEET AND TAKE A LOOK AT AT WHAT THE, UH, CURRENT TIMING IS AT THOSE INTERSECTIONS AND SEE HOW THE SIGNAL PROGRESSION WORKS AND DO SOME OTHER ANALYSIS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT AND CIRCLE BACK IF THAT, IF THAT WOULD BE OKAY.
UM, MR. MAGNER, I AGREE WITH THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE TAKE THE $15 MILLION ROW AND WE ADD THE A DA IN.
I THINK THAT THAT MAKES, UH, SENSE AND IT'S A GOOD COMPROMISE GIVEN WE HAVE THE MANY OTHER PRESENTATIONS COMING OUR WAY.
UM, MR. NELSON, JUST A QUESTION ABOUT, UM, WHETHER THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME OF THESE TO BE SORT OF SHOVEL READY.
UH, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT THE POTENTIAL GRANT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE ROUND.
JUST WONDERING IF THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES FOR SOME OF THESE OTHER PROJECTS TO BE SHOVEL READY IN CASE GRANT OPPORTUNITIES COME ALONG.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE WOULD NEED TO PUT ANY FUNDING TOWARDS, UH, THAT ASPECT.
UM, YOU KNOW, USING THE ROUNDABOUT AT UTD AS AN EXAMPLE, COULD THERE BE A GRANT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE ROUNDABOUT AT FALL CREEK AS AN EXAMPLE? UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD WE NEED TO DO ON OUR END TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT WE MAY BE, ARE READY FOR THOSE GRANT OPPORTUNITIES WHEN THEY COME ALONG FOR EITHER A ROUNDABOUT OR SOMETHING IN OUR ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN? SO, CAN YOU SPEAK A LITTLE BIT TO, UH, TO WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE? AND IF YOU'RE NOT READY TONIGHT, UH, TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION, I'D BE CURIOUS TO, TO HEAR WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
IS THAT ANOTHER MILLION DOLLARS, ANOTHER $2 MILLION TO HAVE ALL OF THOSE SORT OF IN A POSITION THAT IF GRANTS COME ALONG, WE'RE READY FOR THEM? UM, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT WE SHOULD BE, UH, CONSIDERING AS WELL.
FROM, JUST FROM A, FROM A DEBT MANAGEMENT STANDPOINT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE COULD, WE COULD, WE COULD DO THAT, AND YOU COULD DO THAT IN A VARIETY OF AREAS.
UM, YOU, YOU DO START TO KIND OF TIE UP CAPACITY NOW.
YOU NEVER HAVE TO SELL THAT DEBT IF THE GRANT DOESN'T COME TO FRUITION.
UM, SO YOU'D HAVE TO ASK YOURSELF IF YOU WANTED TO TAKE AN APPROACH LIKE THAT, WOULD YOU WANNA MAKE THOSE DOLLARS ADDITIVE MM-HMM
SO THAT YOU, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY WE HAVE THE $200 MILLION FOR INSTANCE.
UH, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANTED TO SAY, WELL, WE'RE GONNA DO A $210 MILLION, 10 OF THAT MILLION DOLLARS WOULD ONLY BE SOLD IF WE WERE ABLE TO ACHIEVE OTHER GRANTS.
THAT'S THE ONLY TIME WE'D EVER SELL THAT, THAT WOULD BE A, AN INTERESTING STRATEGY.
BUT OTHER, BECAUSE OTHERWISE YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE TYING UP PART OF THE $200 MILLION, UM, YOU KNOW, KIND OF ASSUMING MAYBE THAT, THAT A GRANT OPPORTUNITY WOULD COME ALONG.
SO WE CAN, I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS YOU COULD ACTUALLY DO THAT AND YOU COULD, YOU COULD MAYBE GET BACK TO THE 20 MILLION, $20 MILLION UNDER THE EARLIER SCENARIO.
YOU SAID THE 15 MILLION PLUS THE 1.3 MILLION, OR YOU GET TO MAYBE 18 OR $19 MILLION.
BUT, BUT REALLY NOT, NOT NEVER TIE UP THAT CAPACITY UNLESS YOU ACTUALLY ACHIEVE THE GRANT AND THEN DECIDE TO SELL THE, THE DEBT.
YEAH, I MEAN, I, I, THAT'S AN INTERESTING STRATEGY.
I DON'T THINK I'VE HEARD OF US DOING THAT BEFORE.
REALLY, REALLY THE SPIRIT OF THE QUESTION IS, WE HAVE A LOT OF AMAZING PROJECTS HERE, AND OCCASIONALLY GRANT OPPORTUNITIES COME ALONG, BUT, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU NEED TO BE IN A POSITION TO JUMP ON THEM IMMEDIATELY.
AND SO THAT'S REALLY THE SPIRIT OF THE QUESTION.
BUT IF THERE'S AN INTERESTING WAY TO MAYBE DO IT THE WAY THAT YOU'VE SUGGESTED, PERHAPS WE CAN CONSIDER THAT HERE FOR, FOR OTHER, FOR OTHERS.
I, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE UTILIZING
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GRANT FUNDING FOR THE UTD ROUNDABOUT.WHAT, WHAT HAPPENS IF THERE'S ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY AND WE CAN SURE.
UH, I'D LIKE US TO EXPLORE WHAT THAT MAY LOOK LIKE.
WELL, WE CAN BRING IT BACK WHERE IT'S KIND OF WITHIN THE 200 MILLION OR POTENTIALLY WHERE IT WAS BEYOND THE 200 MILLION.
UH, WELL, THANK YOU, UH, FOR BRINGING AND PRESENTING ALL THESE GREAT NUMBERS.
UH, YOU KNOW, THE QUESTION IS ON THAT, YOU KNOW, SO 1.3 MILLION FOR A-D-A-D-A COMPLIANCE THAT UPGRADES, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS DOESN'T REALLY SAY THAT THIS IS STRICTLY THE UPGRADES, OR THERE MIGHT MIGHT BE SOME OTHER THINGS WITHIN THAT THINGS, BECAUSE SOMETIMES IF YOU TOUCH CERTAIN AREA, LIKE FOR A DA COMPLIANCE, UH, THEN YOU HAVE TO DO A LITTLE MORE TO GET THE WHOLE AREA FIXED.
SO SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF IT IS A PURELY 1.3 MILLION MAKES SENSE TO ADD THAT WITH THE OTHER NUMBERS.
BUT IF THAT 1.3 MILLION BECOME, SAY, ANOTHER TWO, 3 MILLION, 4 MILLION BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S IN, IT IS IN A AREA THAT IT MAKES SENSE TO EXPAND THE CONSTRUCTION BEYOND THAT, THOSE FEW THINGS.
SO I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT IT.
I'M SURE YOU'LL LOOK AT IT BEFORE RECOMMENDING THAT IT'S ONLY 1.3 MILLION BECAUSE I DON'T WANNA SEE THAT CONSTRUCTION HAPPEN IN THE SAME AREA TWICE IN A YEAR OR TWO.
I MEAN, IF YOU DO HAVE CONSTRUCTION, GET IT DONE.
IDEALLY, I DON'T WANNA SEE CONSTRUCTION UNDER FIVE YEARS INTO THE SAME AREA.
UH, OTHERWISE IT'S A PAIN TO SEE CONSTRUCTION ALL YEAR LONG, EVERY TIME.
LIKE, WE'RE FIXING THIS DRIVEWAY TODAY, THE OTHER SIDE OF THE DRIVEWAY NEXT YEAR, IT'S NOT PLEASURE.
SO I WOULD SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE YOU'LL LOOK AT IT.
I'M JUST SAYING THAT LOOK AT THOSE THINGS SO THAT WE DON'T GO BACK CONSTRUCTING OR IMPROVING SAME STREET, SAME BLOCK, YOU KNOW, BE DIFFERENT TIME.
UH, NOW THE MATCHING FUND, I'M SURE THAT YOU PROBABLY HAVE SOME PROJECTION THAT WAS COMING UP NEXT FEW YEARS BECAUSE WE DON'T REALLY, UH, YOU KNOW, OFTEN GET, SUDDENLY WE HAVE A MATCHING FUND.
UH, MOST OF THE TIME THOSE ARE PRETTY MUCH ON THE RADAR THAT IT MIGHT BE COMING, UH, THIS TIME.
AND ALSO YOU HAVE A FIXED, SOMETIMES YOU GET CERTAIN AMOUNT FROM DALLAS COUNTY, YOU KNOW, EVERY YEAR YOU DON'T GET MORE THAN THAT PROBABLY BECAUSE YOU HAVE SOME NUMBERS.
SO I GUESS, UH, YOU ALREADY HAVE LOOKED AT THOSE NUMBERS AND THINKING THAT, OKAY, WE ARE NOT GONNA GET ANY MATCHING FUND NEXT THREE YEARS FOR THIS PROJECT.
SO WE MIGHT BE COMING IN THE FUTURE.
THOSE MIGHT BE COMING IN THE FUTURE.
UH, I, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF I EXPLAIN MY QUESTION MARK.
HOW MANY, HOW MANY OF THESE PROJECTS ARE ANY OF THESE PROJECTS, ASSUMING MATCHING FUND GRANTS? UH, NOT AT THIS POINT EXCEPT FOR WHAT YOU SEE ON THE HSIP LOCAL MATCH, UH, THERE IN THE OTHER PROJECTS.
BUT AGAIN, WE STILL HAVE TO APPLY AND EXPECT OR ANTICIPATE THAT WE GET SOMETHING FUNDED OFF OF THAT.
UH, WE THINK THAT WE SET UP, WELL, CERTAINLY WITH THE, UH, POLK STREET ONE IN TERMS OF DOING SOME PRELIMINARY DESIGN, UH, TO ADVANCE THAT.
UM, AND SO TAKE, TAKE, TAKE JUST TWO SECONDS
IT'S BECAUSE WE'RE LEVERAGING OTHER TOOLS.
UM, SO IT DOESN'T ALWAYS HAVE TO BE JUST, YOU KNOW, ACTUAL, YOU KNOW, FUNDS, BOND FUNDS OR SWEEP OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, 'CAUSE I THINK, I THINK, UH, COUNCILMAN SHEMEL, TO YOUR POINT, I THINK THAT IS PART OF THE CONSIDERATION.
IF WE THINK THAT SOME OF THESE PROJECTS WILL LEND THEMSELVES TO SOME OF THESE OTHER TOOLS, THINGS THAT WE CAN UTILIZE AS OUR MATCH, THEN WE WILL LEAVE THOSE OUT ALL ELSE BEING EQUAL AND INCLUDE, YOU KNOW, SOME THAT ARE WE, WE NEED THE FUNDING BECAUSE THERE AREN'T THOSE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES, RIGHT? SO FIRST AND FOREMOST, THERE'S, THERE'S ALWAYS OPPORTUNITIES ON THE SAFETY SIDE, UM, WHETHER ADMINISTRATIONS CHANGE AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL AND EVEN AT THE STATE LEVEL, SAFETY IS SAFETY.
AND SO THERE'S ALWAYS AN EFFORT OUT THERE.
SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE ALWAYS LOOKED AT IS, IS HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE IDENTIFY PARTICULAR PROJECTS, UH, THAT FALL INTO THAT SAFETY PROGRAM? AND, AND SO THE HIGHWAY SAFETY IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, WE SUBMIT 'EM, WE, WE'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN SUBMITTING ON THAT, UH, WHERE WHEREBY WE IDENTIFY
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THOSE PARTICULAR INTERSECTIONS THAT WE BELIEVE THAT HAVE EITHER A OLDER EQUIPMENT NEED SOME UPGRADES FOR THE SAFETY ELEMENTS, AND THEN WE GET ANYWHERE BETWEEN A 50 50 TO A 80, UH, 80 20 MATCH ON THAT.THERE'S, THERE'S PARTICULAR PUSHES, UH, FOR, FOR VARIOUS ELEMENTS.
UM, AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH, UH, THE SAFER STREETS PROGRAM, THERE'S A LARGER PUSH STATEWIDE AND REGIONALLY FOR THE SAFER STREETS TO REDUCE THOSE, UM, SERIOUS INJURIES AND FATALITIES.
AND SO WE KINDA LOOK AT THOSE DIFFERENT PROJECTS.
WHERE CAN WE HAVE EFFECTIVE, WHERE CAN WE IDENTIFY EFFECTIVE OPPORTUNITIES? UM, WHERE THERE MIGHT BE A, A GRANT CALL ON THAT.
SO, UM, THEN THERE'S THE, THE OTHER ELEMENT WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY AND WITHIN THE REGION AS WE TALK ABOUT THAT DENSITY ELEMENT, WHERE DO YOU FIND THOSE BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN ELEMENTS, UM, THAT, THAT HELP DO THE DENSE, UH, THE DENSITY DEVELOPMENT? SO GREAT.
UH, CASE IN POINT WOULD BE SOMETHING ALONG OR, OR ASSOCIATED WITH A REDEVELOPMENT OF THE ARAPAHO TRANSIT CENTER.
UM, DONNA, IS THAT WHAT YOU WERE LOOKING FOR IN TERMS OF HOW WE'RE TRYING TO FRAME UP ON YEAH, I, I, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE COUNCIL REALIZES THAT AS WE, AS WE LOOK AT PROJECTS, THE PROJECTS THAT HAVE THE HIGHEST POSSIBILITY OF LEVERAGING SOME OTHER FORM OF LOCAL MATCH, WE'RE NOT GONNA BURDEN THE BOND PROGRAM WITH THAT.
SO THERE IS A, THERE IS A VALUE PROPOSITION EXERCISE THAT WE GO THROUGH, UM, TO KIND OF PUT THE RIGHT PROJECTS IN THE RIGHT BUCKETS.
AND IF IT'S A PROJECT THAT IS A HIGH LIKELIHOOD OR A GOOD LIKELIHOOD OF RECEIVING FUNDING FROM SOME WAY, SOME OTHER MECHANISM THAT WE CAN USE AS OUR LOCAL MATCH, YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE THOSE PROJECTS.
UH, BECAUSE, UH, THEY'RE NOT GONNA, WE, WE DON'T WANNA BURDEN THE BOND PROGRAM WITH THOSE, WE WANNA BURDEN THE BOND PROGRAM WITH PROJECTS THAT ARE UNLIKELY TO HAVE OTHER FUNDING SOURCES.
BUT, SO I'M GONNA ASK YOU A QUESTION ON THIS.
UH, SO THAT, THAT MEANS THAT THOSE 14 SIGNAL THAT YOU HAVE, SO WE ARE PRETTY MUCH SURE THAT WE'RE NOT GETTING ANY GRANT MONEY ON THOSE SIGNALS.
THERE IS STILL SOME POSSIBILITY ON THE SIX NEW SIGNALS, NO.
14 SIGNAL, THE 14 SIGNALS? UM, NO.
WE, WE DON'T EXPECT, WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE, WE'D BE SUCCESSFUL ON THOSE, UH, SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE ON LOCAL, THEY'RE OUR LOCAL NETWORK.
AND, AND DON'T, AND DON'T QUALIFY, UH, FOR, FOR THAT HSIP PROGRAM, WE HAVE HIGHER VOLUME INTERSECTIONS THAT, THAT WOULD, THAT HAVE, UH, HIGHER CRASH ISSUES, UH, AS WELL AS, UH, SAFETY ISSUES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
WE, BUT, BUT EVEN IF WE DID, COUNCILMAN, WE COULD, WE COULD TAKE THOSE FUNDS.
AND WE WE'RE, WE'RE NEVER GONNA BE, HAVE A SHORTAGE OF TRAFFIC, UH, OR INTERSECTIONS THAT WE NEED TO REBUILD.
SO, I MEAN, THAT'S THE SAFEST CATEGORY IN TERMS OF MAKING SURE THAT THOSE DOLLARS ARE, UH, ARE, ARE APPLIED TO REBUILD, REBUILDING CURRENT INTERSECTIONS.
I THINK THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S WHAT, I GUESS, SO THAT EVERYBODY HERE, THANK YOU.
UM, I CERTAINLY SUPPORT MOVING THE 1.3 AND TO THE 15 TO MAKE IT 16.3.
UM, MY QUESTION IS, I, I, I CAN'T DISAGREE WITH $5 MILLION IN ESCALATION, BUT MY QUESTION IS, IF IT TURNS OUT THAT OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS WE DON'T HAVE THAT 5 MILLION, COULD WE USE THAT TO, INSTEAD OF HAVING A $15 MILLION COMPONENT OF THIS, WE COULD DO PARTS OF THE, THE 20 MILLION THAT'S LISTED HERE OTHER THAN THE, THE 1.3? 'CAUSE I THINK WE PULLED THAT UP INTO THE 15, KIND OF WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT.
SO IT CAN, 'CAUSE AGAIN, I'M NOT, I'M NOT SAYING THE ESTIMATES ARE WRONG, DON'T, PLEASE DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
BUT I'M JUST SIMPLY SAYING, THERE'S, THERE'S SEVERAL THINGS ON THE 20 MILLION LINE THAT I'D, I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE ACCOMPLISHED.
AT, AT THE END OF THIS PROGRAM, IF WE HAD, SAY, 600, $600,000 REMAINING BECAUSE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAD SLIGHTLY OVERESTIMATED OR, YOU KNOW, CALCULATED THE, UM, THE INFLATIONARY PRESSURES, WE COULD DO ONE OF THE NEW SIGNALS, FOR INSTANCE.
AND, AND THAT GOES FOR ALL THE PROPOSITIONS WE CAN, IF THERE IS SOME SAVINGS.
YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE CAME, WE HAD TO COME BACK SEVERAL TIMES FOR, YOU KNOW, WHAT I'LL CALL SUPPLEMENTARY, YOU KNOW, COS TO BE ABLE TO KIND OF BALANCE THAT.
SO I'VE, I'VE REALLY CHALLENGED EVERY DEPARTMENT TO TAKE A, A GOOD LARGE, A GOOD HARD LOOK AT THE LAST 10 YEARS OF INFLATIONARY PRESSURES AND TO USE THAT DATA TO TREND OUT WHAT THE NEXT FIVE YEARS WOULD LOOK LIKE.
IT'S STILL A IMPERFECT SCIENCE, BUT, YOU KNOW, I, I'D RATHER ERR ON THE SIDE OF CAUTION THAN HAVE TO COME BACK YEAR AFTER YEAR AND ASK FOR SUPPLEMENTARY COS.
UM, BECAUSE TO YOUR POINT, COUNCILMAN OR MAYOR PRO TIM, IF,
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IF WE DO HAVE SOME SAVINGS LEFT, WE CAN PUT IT TO GOOD USE IN THE SAME, IN THE SAME, UH, PROPOSITION AREA.UM, YEAH, I'M ALONG LIKE MAYOR PROTE MENTIONED, I THINK THERE'S SOME THINGS IN THE 20 MILLION I'D LIKE TO SEE MOVED UP THE A DA AND THE TWO NEW TRAFFIC SIGNALS.
UM, I HATE TO SEE ANOTHER BOND GO THROUGH WHERE WE DON'T ADDRESS SOMETHING THAT BELT LINE AND WEATHERED.
AND LOOKING AT THAT INTERSECTION AT RENTER AND SHARP, I FEEL LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF SIMILARITIES THERE.
UH, SLIGHT CURVE, LONG DISTANCE BETWEEN, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S A WIDE ROAD WHERE PEOPLE PICK UP SPEED, LONG DISTANCE BETWEEN LIGHTS.
I KNOW AT BELTLINE WEATHER IT, THERE'S ALSO AN ELEVATION CHANGE RIGHT BEFORE THE CURVE.
AND THAT HAS BEEN A, A RESULT HAS, WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF CARS END UP IN PEOPLE'S YARDS RIGHT THERE ALONG BELTLINE COVE.
UM, JUST IN THE PAST HANDFUL OF YEARS.
IT SEEMS TO HAPPEN SEVERAL TIMES A YEAR AT THIS POINT, UM, WHERE CARS END UP IN, IN PEOPLE'S FRONT PORCH AND IT'S, IT'S REAL DANGEROUS INTERSECTION.
AND LOOKING AT IT, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S SIMILAR, I'M, I'M ASSUMING THERE'S SIMILAR FORCES WORKING AT RENTER AND SHARP AS WELL.
SO YOUR APPROACH WHEN, UH, COUNCILWOMAN JUSTICE MENTIONED BRINGING A DA UP TO PROJECTS AND KIND OF SAYING, LOOK, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THAT AND TRYING TO SEE, YOU KNOW, ONLY USE IT IF WE ABSOLUTELY NEED TO.
UM, I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT, RUN THE, UH, NEW TRAFFIC SIGNALS INTO THAT BUCKET WITH THAT SAME THOUGHT BECAUSE I, I AM STRUGGLING NOT TO SAY, JUST PUT, LET'S JUST SAY 20 MILLION.
UM, BUT ON THE CONSERVATIVE SIDE, I THINK THAT THE A DA AND THE NICHE, IN ALL HONESTY, NOT THAT A DA IS NOT IMPORTANT, BUT IN MY MIND, THOSE TWO TRAFFIC SIGNALS, UM, ARE A MAJOR SAFETY ISSUE.
UM, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE THOSE TWO A, DA AND THE NEW TRAFFIC SIGNALS MOVED UP TO THE 15 MILLION.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S EITHER GONNA BE A 17 SIX OR, OR A 16 THREE VERSUS A 15.
SO WE CAN HAVE ALL OF THOSE AVAILABLE AND AS WE GET INTO THAT FINAL REFINEMENT, START TO KIND OF FIT THE DIFFERENT PIECES AND, YOU KNOW, UH, OF DIFFERENT PIECES OF THIS PROPOSITION TOGETHER WITH, UH, WITH, WITH BOTH, UH, STREETS AND, AND ALLEYS AS WELL.
I, I LOVE THE IDEA THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE THIS SHEET AT THE END, UH, FOR EACH ONE OF THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES SO WE CAN THEN START NEGOTIATING WHICH OF THESE PIECES.
I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE VERY HELPFUL.
UH, SO I APPRECIATE THE APPROACH.
UH, JUST A FEW CLARIFYING QUESTIONS FOR ME.
UM, UH, SO AS WE DO THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL REBUILDS, I'M ASSUMING THAT INCLUDES BRAND NEW POLES AND EVERYTHING, BE THE HOLE, THE HOLE, THE WHOLE THING.
EVERYTHING FROM UNDERGROUND, THE NEW SIGNAL POLES, UH, NEW TECHNOLOGY, UH, NEW TRAFFIC CONTROL BOXES, SO AND SO FORTH.
UM, I'M GUESSING MR. MAGNER, UM, THAT I KNOW WE'VE GOT AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, A CONVERSATION AROUND AESTHETICS MM-HMM
UH, DESIGN, THAT SORT OF THING.
UM, I'D REALLY LOVE TO KIND OF GET A SENSE FOR, UM, IF FOR THE MOST PART, THEY'RE ALL PRETTY CLOSE, UH, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO DIFFERENT DESIGNS AND THAT SORT OF THING, IF THERE IS A CONSCIOUS DESIRE TO GO A PARTICULAR DIRECTION, AND, AND THAT MAY NOT INC, THAT MAY NOT BE DIFFERENT THAN THE DIRECTION THAT'S ALREADY BEING, UH, TAKEN.
BUT JUST IF, IF THAT'S THE CASE, THE SECOND PART OF THAT PARTICULAR CONVERSATION IS, UM, AND AGAIN, KIND OF GOES INTO THAT WHOLE AESTHETIC CONVERSATION, BUT, UH, WHETHER OR NOT WE WANNA CONSCIOUSLY DECIDE THAT, UM, LET'S SAY OUR, OUR TOPPERS ON THESE SIGNS THAT WE WANNA MAYBE GO TO LED BACKLIT TYPE, UH, UH, STREET, STREET NAMES AND THAT SORT OF THING, UH, LIKE WE'VE SEEN IN IN OTHER PARTS, UH, UH, I'D BE CURIOUS IF THAT'S A DRAMATICALLY DIFFERENT NUMBER, UH, UH, IN THOSE SCENARIOS.
AND, AND IF SO, THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO KNOW, UH, WHENEVER WE DO GET TO THIS, UH, IN THE FUTURE.
UM, I, I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT.
THERE IS A SUBSTANTIAL COST TO THAT, BUT WE CAN, WE CAN PULL SOME DATA TOGETHER AS, AS PART OF, UH, WHEN WE COME BACK TO REVISIT.
UM, THE, THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO, I JUST MADE A NOTE, BUT I GOTTA SAY, I MEAN THE, THE GAPS IN THE SIDEWALK THING, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BEING LOOKED AT AND AND CONSIDERED.
UM, UH, BACK WHEN I HAD CARTILAGE IN MY KNEES AND USED TO JOG LONGER DISTANCES, UM, I, I DO REMEMBER THAT WEIRD FEELING OF THE SIDEWALK JUST ENDING AND WONDERING SOMEONE THAT WAS LESS MOBILE THAN I, UH, WHAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO DO TO, TO DEAL WITH THAT, UH, THAT GAP.
AND SO THE FACT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IT, CONTINUING TO LOOK AT IT IS, IS REALLY APPRECIATED.
UM, I THINK THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT.
[02:05:01]
THANK YOU.UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, DORIAN, I, I JUST WANNA HAVE ONE THING TO ADD TO WHAT YOU SAID, UH, MAYOR AND, AND, AND, AND, AND I'M ALSO SUPPORTIVE OF THE AESTHETICS AND THE DESIGN SIDE OF THIS.
AND I KNOW THAT THIS IS AN ONGOING PROJECT AND WE'RE PUTTING, WE'RE PUTTING LIGHTS, UH, UP ALL THE TIME OR REPAIRING THEM, ESPECIALLY IF SOMEONE RUNS INTO THEM AND YOU HAVE TO DO AN EMERGENCY EMERGENCY REPAIR.
RIGHT NOW, TRADITIONALLY WE'RE USING A STILL, UH, KIND OF A BRUSHED STILL, IF YOU WILL, UM, UH, DESIGN CONFIGURATION WITH THE TRADITIONAL, UM, LIGHTS.
UM, IS, IS MOVING FOR WHAT DOES MOVING FORWARD LOOK LIKE ON THE DESIGNS OF THE TRAFFIC LIGHT? ARE WE GONNA STICK TO THAT MODEL THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE? WELL, WE'RE, NO, I, I THINK, I THINK THAT'S WHAT, UH, MAYOR WAS SAYING.
WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL GIVE YOU A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES OF A, OF A, UH, STAINLESS STEEL INTERSECTION AND THEN KIND OF COMPARE THAT TO A COUPLE OF OTHER MAYBE POLE OPTIONS, AND THEN WE CAN ADD THE, UH, THE LIGHT TO KINDA SAY, VERSUS OUR TRADITIONAL BLADE SIGN, WHAT WOULD A, UH, YOU KNOW, BACK LID, LED SIGN? SO I, I, I THOUGHT WE'LL TAKE THAT AS HOMEWORK OKAY.
AND COME BACK WITH A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT, UH, VARIATIONS JUST, AND, AND JUST TO KIND OF CREATE A, A RANGE OF THIS IS WHAT OUR STANDARD, YOU KNOW, INTERSECTION WOULD LOOK LIKE WITH THESE ADDITIONS OR THESE CHANGES.
THIS IS KIND OF WHAT IT COULD LOOK LIKE.
AND I THINK THAT'S A GOOD, THAT'S A GOOD, UH, HOMEWORK ASSIGNMENT FOR US.
UH, IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS, WE WILL MOVE ON.
[D. REPORT ON ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST]
UH, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER, UH, ITEM LETTER D, UH, REPORT ON ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST.ANYBODY HAVE ANY ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST? MAYOR PRO TEM, HUTCHIN, RIDER? UH, JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS.
FIRST OFF, THE MAYOR AND I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND THE COMMITTEE OF A HUNDRED EVENT OUT AT THE COLLIN COLLEGE UP AT MCKINNEY CAMPUS.
UM, IT WAS CELEBRATING ALL OF THE GREAT WORK THAT COLLIN COLLEGE HAS BEEN DOING, UM, AS FAR AS EDUCATING OUR STUDENTS AND OUR RESIDENTS.
UM, SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS VERY, UM, UH, WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND, AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS JUST AN, A GREAT, UM, EVENT THAT WAS, WAS DONE ALSO.
UM, WE HAD THREE GREAT RIBBON CUTTINGS ON SATURDAY.
UM, WITH FIRE STATION FIVE, FOXBOROUGH PARK, AND THEN, UM, THE ANIMAL SHELTER.
AND, UM, JUST REALLY PROUD OF ALL THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE.
A HUGE THANK YOU TO ALL THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS WHO'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN THOSE THREE.
UM, AND, UH, IT WAS JUST, IT WAS VERY EXCITING TO, TO SEE EACH, EACH OF THOSE AND THE, THE DEPARTMENT'S EXCITEMENT TO GET THOSE PROJECTS DONE.
SO, UM, KUDOS, UM, TO OUR CITY MANAGER AND CITY MANAGEMENT STAFF FOR MAKING ALL OF THAT HAPPEN.
COUNCIL MEMBER CORCORAN EXCUSE.
UH, RIGHT BEFORE THIS COUNCIL MEETING, THE AUDIT COMMITTEE MET AND JUST STARTED KICKING OFF THAT AUDIT PROCESS.
UM, IT WAS A SHORT MEETING, BUT I JUST WANT TO ASSURE THE REST OF COUNCIL THAT THE AUDITORS CROW OR VERY AWARE OF THE NEW TIGHT TIMELINE THAT WE HAVE OF 180 DAYS.
AND THE, THE NO NEW REVENUE CONSEQUENCE THAT WE'LL HAVE TO ADOPT IF WE DON'T MEET IT.
UM, I'M VERY ENCOURAGED THAT, YOU KNOW, THEIR STAFF IS VERY CONSISTENT AND THAT SHOULD REALLY HELP WITH THE AUDIT PROCESS.
ANYONE ELSE? ANY TML COMMENTS? ANY, UH, ANYTHING? COUNCIL MEMBER DOYEN? YES, I'LL, I'LL MAKE THE COMMENT ON THE TMLT.
WE HAVE, WE HAVE, WE DID HAVE A, UH, A TWO AND A HALF DAY, UM, TML AGENDA IN FORT WORTH.
UH, VERY, UH, ALWAYS VERY IMPRESSIVE TO SEE A LOT OF THE VENDORS AND NEW TECHNOLOGY THAT'S COMING TO MARKET TO BE ABLE TO, UM, UH, TO VISIT WITH THEM AND, AND, UM, AND ALSO SEE SOME OF THE NEW TECHNOLOGY OF, UH, BUT FOR, UH, FIRE DEPARTMENT OR FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND POLICE DEPARTMENT.
SO ANYWAY, WE HAD A VERY NICE TIME THERE.
AND I JUST WANNA SAY DITTO TO, UM, WHAT WE DID ON SATURDAY WITH THE THREE RIBBON CUTTINGS.
THOSE WERE VERY NICELY DONE AND, UH, VERY APPRECIATIVE.
I JUST LIKE TO, UH, SECOND EVERYTHING COUNCIL MEMBER IAN JUST SAID, BUT ALSO I WOULD LIKE TO ADD ONE THING THAT IS AT THE TML.
THERE ARE, WERE LOTS OF VENDORS, TECHNOLOGY AND OTHER THINGS WE, WE SAW, BUT ALSO IT WAS GREAT TO SEE ALL THE LOCAL AND REGIONAL LEADERS.
UH, MEETING WITH THEM WAS GREAT.
UH, I THINK THIS IS THE, SOME, THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I REALLY ENJOY THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU MEET THEM ALTOGETHER, PRETTY MUCH THE SAME TIMEFRAME, UH, IT'S REALLY VERY FRUITFUL, UH, TIME TO SPEND THERE.
UM, I, I'LL JUST GIVE A COUPLE QUICK, UH, SHOUT OUTS, I SUPPOSE.
[02:10:01]
UH, LAST SUNDAY, I, UH, HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO AND HANG OUT WITH THE FOLKS OF THE, UH, RICHARDSON CIVIC ART SOCIETY.IT WAS, UH, REALLY COOL TO SEE, UH, UH, THE, THE DIFFERENT ART PIECES THAT WERE, UM, LOCATED OVER AT HUFFINES.
UM, AND, UH, THEY PUT OUT THERE THAT THEY'VE BEEN AROUND FOR 60 YEARS, WHICH IS SORT OF A, A COOL THING.
UH, I KNOW I GOT AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENJOY, UH, THE SYMPHONY, UM, WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBER OF JUSTICE.
HAPPENED TO BE SITTING NEARBY.
BUT, UH, WONDERFUL, UH, WONDERFUL SYMPHONY, UH, EVENT, UH, JUST, JUST THIS WEEKEND AS WELL.
UM, LASTLY, UH, I DID HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, UH, ATTEND, UH, EUN BANK, WHICH IS THE FIRST, UH, TAIWANESE, UH, BANK TO ESTABLISH HERE IN NORTH TEXAS.
UH, THEY'VE ESTABLISHED KIND OF AN EXPLORATORY OFFICE THAT'S IN DALLAS, UH, WITH THE HOPES OF PERHAPS CONSIDERING A LOCATION, UH, FOR THEIR FIRST BANK BRANCH, OR THEIR NEXT BANK BRANCH, EITHER IN PLANO OR RICHARDSON, AS I UNDERSTAND IT.
UH, BUT IT WAS REALLY, UH, WONDERFUL TO GET A CHANCE TO SEE THOSE FOLKS.
MANY OF THE EXECUTIVES AND INCLUDING THE CHAIRMAN, UH, WERE PEOPLE THAT I GOT AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET, UM, UH, IN PERSON, UH, IN, IN THEIR, UH, AT THEIR HEADQUARTERS IN TAIPEI.
UH, SO JUST NEAT TO BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY SEE SOMEONE THAT I SAW IN TAIPEI FOR THE FIRST TIME, UH, BACK IN THE STATES, WITHIN A MONTH, AND, UM, UH, A GREAT EXPERIENCE AT THEIR, AT THEIR GRAND OPENING.
[EXECUTIVE SESSION]
UM, SO AT THIS POINT, I'M GOING TO MOVE ON, UH, INTO OUR EXECUTIVE SESSION.WE'LL DO A, UH, FIVE MINUTE RECESS, UH, UH, BETWEEN, UH, THIS GAVEL AND THE EXECUTIVE SESSION, UH, IN COMPLIANCE WITH SECTION 5 51 0.0 8, 7 1 AND TWO, AND SECTION 5 5, 1 0.0 7, 1, 1, AND TWO, UH, OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE.
COUNSEL WILL CONVENE INTO A CLOSED EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS THE FOLLOWING DE DELIBERATION REGARDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO DELIBERATE COMMERCIAL OR FINANCIAL INFORMATION RECEIVED FROM A BUSINESS PROS PROSPECT, OR TO DELIBERATE THE OFFER OF A FINANCIAL OR OTHER INCENTIVE TO A BUSINESS PROSPECT, UH, PROJECT RUNWAY, AND THEN SEPARATELY CONSULTATION WITH CITY ATTORNEY REGARDING THE DALLAS AREA RAPID TRANSIT.