Jan 05, 2026 City Council

AND I LIVE AT 34 13 BIRCHWOOD LANE RICHARDSON, 7 5 0 8 2.

MY NAME IS ANGIE ROGERS

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IT'S EXTREMELY INTRUSIVE.

AND I AM HERE BECAUSE IN DECEMBER, IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD ARE DRONES THAT FLY OVER MY HOUSE ABOUT A HUNDRED TIMES A DAY.

AND I DON'T RECALL EVER HEARING ANY KIND OF FORUM OR ANY KIND OF INPUT TO US AS RESIDENTS OF THE WOODS OF SPRING CREEK ABOUT THIS OCCURRING.

UM, IF IT WAS JUST ONE AN HOUR, IT WOULDN'T BE A BIG DEAL.

YESTERDAY I PULLED INTO MY DRIVEWAY AFTER VISITING MY DAUGHTER IN THE HOUSTON AREA.

AND AS I WAS UNLOADING MY CAR AT FIVE O'CLOCK IN THE AFTERNOON ON A SUNDAY, I HEARD FIVE DRONES GO OVER MY HOUSE WITHIN A THREE MINUTE PERIOD.

I HAVE A POOL, SO I'M A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN THIS SUMMER AS I'M IN THE POOL, 'CAUSE I'M SURE THEY HAVE CAMERAS ON THEM.

AND SO, UM, I'M NOT SURE, UM, HOW THIS EVEN GOT APPROVED TO GO RIGHT OVER OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN YOU HAVE RENTER AND TELECOM AND SHILOH WOULD BE GREAT PLACES FOR THESE DRONES TO FLY BEFORE THEY DROP THEIR PACKAGES OFF.

I DON'T SEE A REASON WHY THEY NEED TO GO RIGHT OVER MY BACKYARD.

AND THE FAA SAID THAT THEY DON'T, UH, FLY LOWER THAN 100 FEET.

UH, THAT'S NOT TRUE.

THEY DO .

I HAVE VIDEOS OF THAT.

UM, I WOULD LOVE TO INVITE YOU, MR. MAYOR, I LOVE THAT YOU HAVE THAT LUNCH WITH THE MAYOR.

I WOULD LOVE TO INVITE THE ENTIRE CITY COUNCIL AND YOU TO COME TO MY HOUSE AND HAVE LUNCH AND SEE WHAT WE ARE EXPERIENCING IN THE WOODS OF SPRING CREEK.

IT'S PROBABLY, UM, TO ME IT SEEMS TO BE MORE OVER MY STREET THAN MAYBE SOME OF THE OTHER STREETS, BUT THAT'S A, THAT'S A CONCERN.

UH, WE'RE LOOKING INTO THE FAA, BUT I FEEL LIKE, UM, IT HAD TO HAVE BEEN APPROVED BY YOU GUYS.

AND SO, UM, THAT'S WHY I WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE Y'ALL TO COME TO MY HOUSE AND SEE WHAT WE EXPERIENCE.

YOU CAN HEAR THESE DRONES INSIDE MY HOUSE.

THEY ARE NOT THE, WERE OF A REFRIGERATOR, AS I THINK WAS PROPOSED TO YOU GUYS.

THEY ARE VERY LOUD.

I CAN HEAR THEM INSIDE MY HOUSE WITH THE TV ON.

SO, UM, I'M NOT SURE WHAT MY NEXT STEP IS, BUT MY FIRST STEP WAS TO, I, I FIGURED Y'ALL ARE THE ONES THAT APPROVED IT.

UM, I DON'T THINK ANY OF Y'ALL LIVE IN THE WOODS OF SPRING CREEK.

UM, BUT, UH, THAT'S WHY I WOULD INVITE YOU TO COME AND SEE, UH, WHAT YOUR CONSTITUENTS ARE EXPERIENCING IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD EVERY SINGLE DAY, INCLUDING ON A SUNDAY.

SO, I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

I APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE AND, UM, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE SOMETHING COME OF THIS.

INFREQUENTLY, PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT MORE TOLERABLE.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

SCOTT BURNS.

HI, MY NAME IS SCOTT BURNS.

I LIVE AT 3 4 0 7 BIRCHWOOD LANE IN THE WOODS OF SPRING CREEK.

I'M A NEIGHBOR OF ANGELAS.

UM, SHE, SHE STATED A LOT OF GREAT STUFF.

I DON'T NEED TO REPEAT THAT, BUT I, WE BECAME AWARE OF THE DRONES IN DECEMBER AND WE'RE THINKING, WOW, THIS IS KIND OF NEW.

MAYBE IT'S THE CHRISTMAS RUSH.

THERE'S A LOT OF, LOT OF ACTIVITY AND, YOU KNOW, WHICH WAS UNDERSTANDABLE.

BUT AS ANGELA NOTED, THESE ARE VERY LARGE DRONES.

THEY'RE LIKE STAR WARS SIZE.

THEY'RE PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, I THINK THEY WEIGH 80 POUNDS.

THEY'RE ABOUT THREE OR THREE OR FOUR FEET IN, IN WING LENGTH.

AND, UH, THEY FLY VERY LOW.

SO THEY, I'M JUST DOWN THE STREET FROM ANGELA.

SO THEY NOT ONLY FLY DOWN OUR STREET, BUT EVEN WHEN I'M WALKING AROUND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU HEAR 'EM ALL THE TIME.

AND SOMETIMES THEY COME EVERY THREE OR FOUR MINUTES EITHER GOING OUT OR COMING BACK IN.

AND I HAVEN'T HAD REALLY A CHANCE TO, TO DO VERY MUCH RESEARCH AS FAR AS WHAT THE FAA AND THE HEIGHT LIMITS AND ALL THAT.

BUT THESE THINGS ARE VERY LOUD.

YOU CAN HEAR THEM IN YOUR HOME.

IT FEELS LIKE AN AIR RAID.

AND, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS LIKE ANY KIND OF NOISE, YOU KNOW, RESTRICTIONS OR, OR ANY PARAMETERS THAT MAYBE AMAZON MIGHT'VE, MIGHT'VE, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, INFORMED THE CITY COUNCIL AS FAR AS LIKE, HERE'S OUR GUIDELINES OR GUARDRAILS AS FAR AS WHAT WE ANTICIPATE.

I, I DOUBT THEY'RE, IT PROBABLY WAS GOOD ON PAPER, BUT I DOUBT THEY'RE LIVING UP TO THAT.

UM, LIKE ANGELA, I WAS IN, IN MY ALLEY WITH MY SON, KIND OF HELPING DO SOMETHING TO HIS CAR.

THERE WAS A DRONE THAT CAME BY.

I TRIED TO GET A VDO OF IT.

IT WENT BY FAST.

IT PROBABLY WASN'T HIGHER THAN 75 FEET.

AGAIN, THESE ARE COMING VERY FAST, LOW, AND VERY FREQUENT.

AND IT'S JUST, IT'S VERY CONCERNING.

YOU KNOW, IF THEY CAME

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BUT, UH, I'M NOT SURE WHAT, UM, WHAT THE CITY COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, DID ON THEIR DUE DILIGENCE WHEN, WHEN AMAZON WAS PROPOSING THIS.

BUT I, I'M, I'M PRETTY SURE THAT AMAZON'S NOT LIVING UP TO, YOU KNOW, THE HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS, YOU KNOW, THE NOISE LEVELS AND EVEN THE FLIGHT PATH, AS ANGELA NOTED, THESE THINGS ARE JUST ZIPPING RIGHT THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY CAN'T GO DOWN.

SO I'M AT RENTER AND TELECOM.

I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY CAN'T GO DOWN SOME MAJOR THOROUGHFARES OR KIND OF BYPASS THE, THE NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE COMING LOW AND VERY FREQUENT.

SO, AGAIN, APPRECIATE YOUR, APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION IN LISTENING TO OUR CONCERNS.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, SIR.

NO FURTHER CARDS, MAYOR.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT CARES TO SPEAK? ALRIGHT, UH, WE WILL

[5. REVIEW AND DISCUSS HEALTHIER TEXAS COMMUNITY CHALLENGE]

MOVE ON THEN, UH, TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE, UH, WHICH IS TO REVIEW AND DISCUSS HEALTHIER TEXAS COMMUNITY CHALLENGE.

MR. MAGNER.

UH, THANK YOU MAYOR.

MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

WE ARE, UM, EXCITED TONIGHT TO HAVE A F YVONNE FGO, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECS, MR. DOYLE, OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, AND ASHLEY WAKEFIELD, OUR ATHLETICS, UH, CORPORATE RECREATION MANAGER.

UH, SHE'S GONNA LEAD OUR BRIEFING TONIGHT.

UM, THIS HAS, UH, BECOME AN ANNUAL EVENT, UH, FOR ABOUT THE PAST, UH, FOUR YEARS OR SO.

UH, YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU A PLEDGE THAT, UM, WE WOULD, UH, LIKE TO ASK YOU EACH TO SIGN AS, UH, ASHLEY WRAPS UP HER, UH, PRESENTATION.

UH, AND THEN WE WOULD, UH, LIKE TO ASK YOU TO JOIN OUR PARK STAFF, UH, FOR A, A PHOTO OP.

UM, THESE ACTUALLY RESULT IN POINTS, SO THEY ARE IMPORTANT.

AND, UH, IT'S A GREAT WAY TO HELP THE COMMUNITY, UH, KICKOFF, UH, WHAT'S REALLY BECOME A, A REALLY COMPETITIVE, FUN, UH, COMPETITION IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS.

SO, ASHLEY, THANKS FOR ALL YOU DO TO FACILITATE THIS OVER THE COURSE OF SEVERAL MONTHS, AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU FOR FURTHER BRIEFING.

PERFECT.

THANK YOU, UH, MR. MAGNA, I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND FIRST OFF, HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERYONE.

HOPE EVERYONE ENJOY THE HOLIDAYS.

UH, SO WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, UH, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS ASHLEY WAKEFIELD AND I'M THE CORPORATE RECREATION MANAGER.

AND I'M HERE TO PROVIDE YOU ALL WITH THE UPDATE FOR THE 2026 HEALTHIER TEXAS COMMUNITY CHALLENGE, UH, EFFORTS.

UM, SO FIRST OFF, I DO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT HOW OUR PROGRAM IS MEETING THE CITY COUNCIL'S GOAL.

TO HAVE RESIDENT AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS CHOOSE RICHARDSON AS BEST PLACE TO LOCATE, UM, ALSO CONTRIBUTE AND ENGAGED.

UM, WE ARE ACCOMPLISHING THIS BY CONTINUING TO EXPLORE UNIQUE INCENTIVES, UM, INITIATIVES TO ATTRACT AND RETAIN RESIDENTS AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS.

UM, SO JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW.

UM, I'M GONNA DISCUSS ABOUT HEALTHIER TEXAS, UH, COMMUNITY CHALLENGE FOR THOSE THAT ARE NOT AWARE OF THE PROGRAM, JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT BACKGROUND ABOUT IT AS WELL, JUST GO OVER THE PARTNER IN A COMMUNITY LED LEADER, UM, PLEDGE, TALK ABOUT THE WEEKLY PRIZES AND OVERALL WINNERS THAT WE'LL HAVE, UM, EARNING HOW TO EARN POINTS AND TRACK ON THE LOVELY APP THAT WE'LL HAVE THIS YEAR.

UM, THEN ALSO DISCUSS THE NEW THINGS THAT WE'RE BRINGING INTO 2026 AS FAR AS ACTIVITIES, OUR, OUR VISION OF HOW WE'RE GONNA PROMOTE THE CHALLENGE AS WELL.

UM, AND THEN HOW EVERYONE CAN GET INVOLVED.

UM, SO JUST A BACKGROUND.

THIS IS A EIGHT WEEK, UM, HEALTH COMPETITION, UM, BETWEEN COMMUNITIES IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.

UM, THE COMPETITION WILL START JANUARY 20TH THROUGH MARCH 15TH THIS YEAR.

UM, BEST THING ABOUT IT, IT'S FREE TO PARTICIPATE.

UM, AND THEN THIS IS ALSO JUST ENCOURAGED AS TEXANS, BUT THEN ALSO LET'S ENCOURAGE OUR CITIZENS, OUR RESIDENTS, UM, TO GET OUT THERE AT THE EARN POINTS BY EATING HEALTHY, BEING ACTIVE, AND STAYING HYDRATED.

UM, HEALTHIER TEXAS IS A NONPROFIT WORKING, UH, ORGANIZATION TO REDUCE, TO PREVENT, UH, PREVENTABLE DISEASES BY EMPOWERING TEXAS TO LIVE HEALTHIER LIVES THROUGH CONNECTION, EDUCATION, AND ACTION.

EACH YEAR, EVERY YEAR, TEXAS COME TOGETHER TO PRIORITIZE THEIR HEALTH, CHEER EACH OTHER ON AND BUILD HABITS THAT LAST IN 2025, THE CITY OF RICHARDSON PARTICIPANTS, WE ACCRUED OVER ONE OVER 1 MILLION 948, 675 TOTAL POINTS ACCRUED, WHICH GAVE US 10TH OVERALL, UM, 10TH OVERALL, UH, OVERALL CITYWIDE IN OUR DIVISION.

AND THEN OUR EMPLOYER CHALLENGE OUTTA 62 COMPANIES THAT PARTICIPATED.

WE PLACED, UM, 219 INDIVIDUAL PARTICIPANTS.

154 OF THOSE WERE ENGAGED AND ACTIVE.

UM, WE HAVE 367 DESTINATION CHECK-INS AND DESTINATION CHECK-INS ARE WHERE WE ENCOURAGE OUR RESIDENTS OR ANYONE WHO'S PARTICIPATING IN THE CHALLENGE TO GO VISIT OUR LOVELY PARKS OR REC CENTERS OR ANYTHING THAT IS LISTED AS A DESTINATION CHECK IN.

ONCE YOU CHECK IN, THAT IS ALSO ANOTHER WAY THAT YOU CAN ACCUMULATE AND ACCRUE POINTS.

AND THEN OF COURSE, UM, 230 PARTICIPATING COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE BOARD.

UM, SO THAT WAS THE EFFORTS THAT WE DID FOR 2025.

DEFINITELY LOOKING FORWARD TO IMPROVING THAT FOR 2026.

AND WITH THAT BEING SAID,

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NEW FOR 2026.

WE HAVE A NEW PARTNERSHIP WITH THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AT DALLAS.

UM, THEY'RE GONNA HELP BOOST OVERALL ENGAGEMENT PARTICIPATION, NOT ONLY WITH THEIR FACULTY, BUT ALSO WITH THEIR STUDENTS.

UM, AND THEN ALSO THEY ARE GONNA HELP COST SHARE FOR RAFFLE PRIZES, THE T-SHIRTS AND THE TUMBLR GIVEAWAYS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE DOING.

SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PARTNERSHIP THAT WE'RE BRINGING ON WITH UTD.

UM, ALSO HEALTHIER.

TEXAS IS DOING A NEW APP AGAIN THIS YEAR.

THEY'RE DEVELOPING A APP TO WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE INTERATED INTERATED WITH FIT RANKINGS.

UM, THAT IS PRETTY MUCH A DIGITAL WELLNESS PLATFORM THAT TRACKS PHYSICAL ACTIVITY, UM, SYNCS WITH FITNESS DEVICES AND SUPPORTS INDIVIDUAL AND TEAM CHALLENGES THROUGH REAL-TIME LEADERBOARDS.

UM, THIS INTEGRATION WILL INCREASE ENGAGEMENT AND ACCOUNTABILITY ACROSS THE BOARD.

SIMPLIFY DEVICE SYNCING FOR PARTICIPANTS, PROVIDE VALUABLE PARTICIPATION AND ACTIVITY DATA FOR ORGANIZERS AND ENCOURAGE HEALTHY HABITS THROUGH GAMIFICATION.

UM, FOR THOSE THAT PARTICIPATE IN THE CHALLENGES BEFORE, YOU'VE ALL NOTICED HOW SOMETIMES IT WOULDN'T ACCURATELY TRACK OUR NUMBERS AND OUR POINTS.

SO THIS YEAR, HEALTHIER TEXAS HAVE MADE THAT A MISSION FOR THEIR OWN TO DEL DEVELOP THAT ON THEIR END.

UM, ANOTHER NEW EVENT THAT WE'RE GONNA DO FOR 2026.

WE ALWAYS HAVE A KICKOFFS KICKOFF EVENT IN JANUARY.

WELL, THIS YEAR I WANTED TO BE ABLE TO CELEBRATE THE END OF THE HEALTHIER TEXAS CHALLENGE 'CAUSE WHAT'S NOT A BETTER WAY TO CONGRATULATE EVERYONE WHO'S PARTICIPATED AND JUST THANKED THEM FOR ALL THE TIME TO PARTICIPATING.

SO WE JUST DO A HUGE CELEBRATION THAT IS GONNA BE ON MARCH 7TH AT HUFFINES PARK, AND THAT IS GONNA BE THE WALK AND RUN EVENT THIS YEAR, VERSUS HAVING THAT IN JANUARY.

SO WE'RE NOT ON THE BITTER COLD .

SO I WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE PARTNER IN COMMUNITY LETTER PLEDGE.

UM, YOU ALL HAVE A PLEDGE, UM, FORM IN FRONT OF YOU THAT WE'RE GONNA SIGN, AND WE'LL TAKE A PICTURE LIKE WE MENTIONED BEFORE, UM, EACH PARTICIPATING COMMUNITY, SCHOOL DISTRICT OR ORGANIZATION JUST PLEDGES TO ACTIVELY PROMOTE THE CHALLENGE WITH WITHIN YOUR ORGANIZATION OR AREA OF, UM, RECRUIT LIKE MIND LEADERS WITHIN YOUR NETWORK TO HELP BUILD A HEALTHIER COMMUNITY.

AND THEN HOST, HOST HEALTH RELATED GROUPS OR ACTIVITIES TO HELP ENCOURAGE HEALTHY LIVING WITHIN YOUR COMMUNITY.

HEALTHIER TEXAS WILL STILL BE PROVIDING THE WEEKLY PRIZES AND OVERALL WINNERS THAT THEY WOULD DO AMONGST THEMSELVES THROUGHOUT THEIR APP.

HOWEVER, THE CITY OF RICHARDSON, WHAT WE ARE GONNA DO FOR ANYONE WHO ACCRUES OVER 25,000 POINTS OR MORE, YOU WILL RECEIVE A TUMBLR.

UM, THAT IS THE DESIGN FOR THE TUMBLR AT THE BOTTOM, BOTTOM LEFT HAND SIDE.

THAT IS THE NEW TUMBLR DESIGN FOR THIS YEAR, WHICH ALSO INCLUDES THE CITY OF RICHARDSON AND ALSO UTDS LOGO.

TUM CUPS WILL BE AVAILABLE AT BOTH RECREATION CENTERS HEIGHTS AND HUFFINES REC CENTER JUST TO CLAIM UPON VERIFICATION ONCE YOU SURPASSED IT.

ALL RIGHT, IN ORDER TO EARN POINTS, THERE IS EARLY REGISTRATION, WHICH IS 250 POINTS.

I'M ACTUALLY GONNA HOST A SERIES OF HOW TO REGISTER SEMINARS TO SHOW PEOPLE HOW TO ACTUALLY UTILIZE THE APP THIS YEAR.

THAT WAY EVERYONE KNOWS AND THEY'RE COMFORTABLE WITH UTILIZING THE APP.

UM, ACTIVATION POINTS IS ONCE YOU PRETTY MUCH SIGN UP THAT YOU WANNA REGISTER, YOU AUTOMATICALLY ACCRUE 500 POINTS OFF THERE.

AND THEN ONCE YOU AC, ONCE YOU ACCOMMODATE OR ACCRUE YOUR HEALTH CHAMPION PLEDGES BY COMPLETING THE TASK ON THE APP, UM, YOU'LL GET 500 POINTS FOR EACH PLEDGE THAT YOU, UM, THAT YOU GAIN.

UM, REPORTING INDIVIDUAL HEALTH ACTIONS, WHICH IS PRETTY MUCH IF LIKE THE LOVELY MEAL THAT WE HAVE FOR DINNER TODAY, THAT IS A HEALTH MEAL THAT COULD BEEN 50 POINTS FOR US RIGHT THERE.

UM, WHEN YOU DRINK WATER, EIGHT OUNCES OF WATER, ANYTIME YOU TRACK YOUR WATER, THAT'S ANOTHER WAY TO EARN 50 POINTS.

AND THEN OF COURSE, JUST ANY KIND OF FITNESS EXERCISE, MEDITATION IS ANOTHER WAY TO EARN POINTS, AND THAT'S 50 AS WELL.

UM, CHECKING IN IS FOR THE DESTINATIONS.

THAT IS A HUNDRED POINTS IF YOU GO TO THE PARKS OR ANY DESTINATION CHECK-INS THAT ARE ON THE APP.

UM, SO HOW DOES THE APP WORK? AGAIN, THEY'RE DEVELOPING A NEW APP, BUT IT'S STILL GONNA BE THE SAME PROCESS OF HOW YOU CREATE YOUR ACCOUNT.

UM, WITH YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS.

YOU LOG IN, USE YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS, REPORT YOUR POINTS, INTERACT WITH ONE ANOTHER IN THE COMMUNITY LEADERBOARD.

UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, THE CHECKING IN AT THE DESTINATIONS WHERE YOU'LL SEE THE TREES MARKED HIGHLIGHTED ON THIS SCREEN.

THIS IS THE FITNESS APPS AND CONNECTED DEVICES THAT ARE, WILL BE INTEGRATED WITH THE APP AS WELL WITH FIT RANKINGS.

UM, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, APPLE HEALTH, STRAVA, FITBIT, IF YOU HAVE A FITNESS DEVICE OR ANY KIND OF FITBIT, IT WILL BE ABLE TO SYNC UP TO WHERE YOU CAN TRACK YOUR POINTS.

IN JANUARY, WE'RE GONNA BRING INSIDE WHERE WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF WARRANT AND GET A GREAT WORKOUT.

SO 2026 ACTIVITIES.

UM, AS I MENTIONED, WE'RE GONNA HAVE HOW TO REGISTER SESSIONS BEFORE AND DURING THE WEEK OF THE COMMUNITY CHALLENGE, JUST TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE IS COMFORTABLE AND READY TO GO WHEN WE GET STARTED ON JANUARY 20TH.

UH, JANUARY 17TH IS ACTUALLY GONNA BE THE KICKOFF EVENT.

IT IS THE FREE SATURDAY ZUMBA AND YOGA EVENT AT HUFFINES REC CENTER.

SO VERSUS BEING OUTSIDE

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ZUMBA WILL KICK IT OFF OF COURSE, AND THEN ALSO WHEN WE'RE DONE WITH THE ZUMBA CLASS, AFTER AN HOUR, THEN WE'LL DO A LITTLE WIND DOWN WITH YOGA.

UM, AND THEN WE'LL FINISH OUT.

NOW OF COURSE, BEFORE KICKING OFF THAT EVENT, WE WILL HAVE A RAFFLE PROGRAM THAT WE'LL DO, UH, FOR INDIVIDUALS THAT ATTEND.

AND OF COURSE, WE'LL HAVE T-SHIRTS AVAILABLE FOR THOSE IN ATTENDANCE AS WELL.

UM, BEGINNING JANUARY 24TH, WE'LL HAVE OUR FREE GROUP CLASSES, INCLUDING YOGA, DANCE, FITNESS, UM, NUTRITIONAL COOKING CLASS AND MORE.

WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO BRING BACK TEXAS A AND M AGRI LIFE.

UM, THEY'RE COMING BACK FOR THEIR NUTRITIONAL COOKING CLASSES AND THEY'RE DOING A THREE PART SERIES OVER MEDITERRANEAN COOKING, UH, MEETS TEXAS.

UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, MARCH 7TH, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THE CELEBRATION WALK AND RUN EVENT WILL BE AT H FINES PARK TO CELEBRATE THE END OF THE CHALLENGE, PROMOTING THE CHALLENGE.

UH, WE'VE ALREADY HAVE A SOCIAL MEDIA POST, IS THE COUNTDOWN SAYING MARK YOUR CALENDARS.

UM, SO I'M WORKING ALONG WITH THAT.

WE ARE UPDATING THE WEBSITE AS WELL ON THE CITY OF PARKS OF RECREATION WEBSITE.

THE SUBPAGE THAT WE HAVE.

I WILL BE REACHING OUT TO THE HOAS TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO SEND IT OUT TO THEIR RESPECTIVE RESIDENTS AS WELL.

UM, AND THEN WE'RE ALSO GONNA REACH OUT TO OUR COMPANIES IN THE CORPORATE CHALLENGE TO GET THEM ENTICED AS WELL TO PARTICIPATE, TO KEEP THEM ENGAGED YEAR ROUND.

AND OF COURSE, PROMOTING IT TO LOCAL BUSINESSES AND PARTNER ORGANIZATIONS.

UM, FEATURED IN THINGS TO DO WEEKEND REVIEW, AND OF COURSE RICHARDSON TODAY, UH, A PRESS RELEASE ANNOUNCING RICHARDSON'S PARTICIPATION AND COUNCIL PLEDGE SIGNING TONIGHT.

SO HOW YOU CAN GET INVOLVED, UM, YOU CAN EITHER VISIT THE WEBSITE, TEXAS COMMUNITY CHALLENGE.ORG OR IF YOU CAN SCAN THE QR CODE, IT'LL TAKE YOU TO THEIR WEBSITE AND YOU CAN REGISTER DIRECTLY AND THEN JUST WAIT FOR THEM TO FINISH THE APP AND WE'LL GET YOU ALL SIGNED UP.

UM, TRACK YOUR ACTIVITIES, SUBMIT THOSE HEALTHY ACTIONS TO EARN YOUR POINTS FOR YOUR COMMUNITY ENTERPRISES.

AND THEN OF COURSE, FOLLOW THE COMPETITION.

CHECK IN ON YOUR, YOUR INBOX IN THE GIVEAWAYS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

REACH OUT TO YOUR FRIENDS NEIGHBORS AND THEN OF COURSE, SAVE THE JOURNEY.

USE YOUR HASHTAGS.

HASHTAG COMMUNITY CHALLENGE, HASHTAG LET'S GO RICHARDSON.

UH, SO I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS EFFORT THAT WE'RE GONNA DO THIS YEAR FOR 2026, ESPECIALLY WITH THE COLLABORATION RIGHT NOW WITH UTD.

SO I'M REALLY EXCITED AND I WANNA THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SUPPORT, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU ALL IN 2026 DURING THE CHALLENGE.

THANK YOU, ASHLEY.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR ASHLEY? NO QUESTIONS.

I'M JUST SIGNING UP.

EVERYONE IN THE AUDIENCE.

PULL OUT YOUR PHONES AND SIGN UP.

UH, PUT THE QR CODE BACK UP.

ABSOLUTELY.

SO ALL THOSE FOLKS OUT THERE CAN DO IT.

WAS, WAS LAST YEAR THE MOST PARTICIPANTS WE'VE HAD, UH, 20 SINCE WE'VE BEEN IN THIS 20, NO, ACTUALLY 2024 WAS 2024.

YES, SIR.

IF YOU DON'T MIND, UH, AT SOME POINT BEHIND THE SCENES, IF WE'LL SHARE THOSE STATS, I'D LOVE TO SURE.

SEE WHAT WE COULD DO TO TARGET MAKING SURE THAT WE DO BETTER THAN THAT.

AND THEN ARE WE IN THE LARGE CITY, UH, CATEGORY? YES.

WE'RE IN THE, AT LARGE? YES.

SO, UH, SEE SOME VALLEY CITIES THAT WERE, UH, UH, IN THE TOP, IN THE TOP THREE.

MCALLEN.

MCALLEN IS THE NUMBER ONE ALL THE TIME.

MCALLEN.

AND, UH, I JUST SPENT SOME TIME WITH THE MAYOR OF EDINBURGH WHO WAS NUMBER THREE LAST YEAR, SO, OKAY.

UM, IT'S BOTS.

IS IT BOTS? OKAY.

A LOT OF BOT FORMS THERE.

UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? EVERYONE SIGNED THEIR PLEDGES.

UH, IF IT'S OKAY, I THINK WE'RE SUPPOSED TO TAKE A PHOTO TOGETHER, RIGHT? YES.

FANTASTIC.

DO YOU WANT OUR PLEDGES OR, I USED TO DO TWO YEARS AGO.

SO ITEM NUMBER SIX IS A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM.

ALWAYS GET BACK ON, DIDN'T, ALRIGHT.

BIG SMILES.

BIG SMILES AND THAT.

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ALRIGHT,

[6. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE PUBLIC INPUT ON THE 2026 BOND PROGRAM. ]

AND, UH, IT IS TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE PUBLIC INPUT ON THE 2026 BOND PROGRAM.

MR. MAGNER, UH, THANK YOU MAYOR.

MAYOR AND COUNSEL.

UM, AS YOU SEE ON THE, UM, SLIDE, UH, TONIGHT'S AN IMPORTANT EVENING, UH, THE FIRST OF TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS, UM, FOLLOWING OUR DECEMBER 15TH, UH, BRIEFING WHERE WE PROVIDED YOU, UH, WITH, UH, OUR INITIAL PROPOSITION, UH, COMPOSITION, UH, FOR THE VARIOUS AREAS.

AND SO WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO TONIGHT IS JUST RECAP THAT BRIEFLY AND THEN, UM, MAYOR, YOU'LL OPEN IT UP FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.

UM, JUST TO REMIND THE PUBLIC, UH, THAT, UH, THERE ARE, UH, SEVERAL IMPORTANT GUIDING PRINCIPLES THAT WE USE TO DEVELOP THIS RECOMMENDATION.

OBVIOUSLY, FIRST, LOOKING AT YOUR, UH, GOALS AND, UM, HOW WE CAN HELP ACHIEVE AND FURTHER THOSE, UH, MINIMAL ADDITIONAL OPERATING COSTS WERE IMPORTANT IN THIS RECOMMENDATION.

AS, AS WAS, UH, BUILDING ON PRIOR, UH, MASTER PLANNING EFFORTS.

UM, AND, UH, OF COURSE BUILDING ON PROJECTS, UH, PRIOR PROJECTS, UM, UM, BRINGING THEM TO COMPLETION OR FULL FRUITION, OR AT LEAST, UH, PROGRESSING THE OVERALL PLAN WAS ALSO IMPORTANT.

UM, IN TERMS OF CONSIDERATIONS, UM, WE LOOKED AT PROJECTS, UH, FIRST AND FOREMOST THAT REQUIRED IMMEDIATE ACTION.

UM, IF PROJECTS COULD BE IMPLEMENTED, UH, IN PHASES, WE EVALUATED THAT, UM, TO, UH, TRY TO MAKE THE BIGGEST IMPACT, UH, CITYWIDE AND NOT NECESSARILY DEVOTE, UM, SIGNIFICANT RESOURCES TO JUST ONE PROJECT.

UM, WE LOOK TO, AS WE ALWAYS DO, LIMIT, UH, DISRUPTIONS IN OPERATIONS AND, AND CITY SERVICES TO RESIDENTS THROUGHOUT THESE, UH, PROJECTS.

UM, WE ALSO, UH, LOOKED AT T IF THE PROJECT WASN'T SELECTED, IT COULD BE FUNDED, UH, THROUGH OTHER NON GEO BOND PROGRAM, UM, FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES.

AND I PRESENTED YOU, UH, WITH JUST SHY OF ABOUT $10 MILLION OF PROJECTS THAT, UM, WE WOULD BE, UH, LAUNCHING ON, UH, PARTICULARLY IN THE FACILITIES REALM, UH, USING THAT STRATEGY.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, UH, WE TALKED ABOUT THE CAPACITY THAT WILL REMAIN IN PLACE AND THAT WILL BE CREATED, UH, AS WE PROGRESS THROUGH, UH, THIS BOND PROGRAM IN THE COMING YEARS, UH, THROUGH, UH, OUR EFFECTIVE DEBT MANAGEMENT.

UH, YOU SEE, UM, A SUMMARY HERE OF, UH, EACH OF THE PROPOSITIONS, UH, TRANSPORTATION, MOBILITY, STREETS AND ALLEY SIDEWALKS.

UH, AND RECALL END STREETS ALSO IS, UH, IS TRAFFIC SIGNALS AND OTHER MOBILITY PROJECTS, UH, DRAINAGE AND, UH, PUBLIC BUILDINGS AND PARKS.

UH, TOLLING, UH, $223.4 MILLION.

UH, BUT RECALL, UM, UH, AND I'LL MENTION THIS AGAIN AS WE GET ON THE FACILITY SLIDE, UH, 23.5 MILLION OF THAT, UH, IS INCLUDED, UH, FOR AUTHORIZATION.

HOWEVER, THE ACTUAL SALE OF THAT DEBT WOULD NOT BE SCHEDULED AND SAY FY 20, UH, I'M SORRY, FY 32, WHICH WOULD BE THE FIRST FULL FISCAL YEAR FOLLOWING, UH, THIS, UH, FIVE YEAR BOND PROGRAM, WHICH WILL BE A SERIAL SALE.

SO YOU COULD LOOK AT THIS AS, UH, YOU KNOW, THE CONTINUATION YEAR SIX OF THIS, OR POTENTIALLY WHAT WOULD BE YEAR ONE OF THE NEXT BOND PROGRAM.

UM, AS YOU LOOK AT, UH, THE TRANSPORTATION, UM, UH, PROPOSITION, EXCITED TO BE REBUILDING 14 LOCATIONS, AS WELL AS ADDING TWO NEW, UH, LOCATIONS.

THAT WAS IN ADDITION, UH, AS WE CAME BACK, UH, FROM OUR INITIAL, UH, RECOMMENDATION.

SO, UH, RENTER AND SHARP AND BELTLINE AND WEATHER IT, UH, YOU SEE, UH, $4.2 MILLION, UH, IS THE RECOMMENDATION, UM, THAT, UH, FULLY FUNDS ALL OF, UH, OUR SCHOOL ZONE FLASHERS, OUR SPEED, UH, FEEDBACK SIGNS AND COMPLETES ALL OF THE 80 D COMPLIANCE UPGRADES THAT WE IDENTIFIED FOR YOU, AS WELL AS 2.6 FOR OUR ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN, UH, IMPLEMENTATION, UH, ON STREETS, UH, IN ALLEYS, $114.6 MILLION.

UM, UH, YOU SEE IN COLLECTORS, NEIGHBORHOOD COLLECTORS AND COMMERCIAL, THE STREETS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED AS WELL AS FOR RESIDENTIAL.

UM, I WILL NOTE, UH, ONE CHANGE IN THE RESIDENTIAL.

UH, THIS WAS, UH, I, I JUST A LITTLE BIT OF AN OVERSIGHT, UH, IN THE INITIAL LIST.

UM, UM, UM, GREENHAVEN DRIVE, UH, IS, IS THERE, UH, REPLACING, UH, PREVIOUSLY, UH, CHARLES, IT WAS, UM, BLANKING ON THE NAME.

UM, UM, RIDGECREST.

ORIGINAL RECOMMENDATION WAS INCREASING THE, UH, SIDEWALK GAPS FROM $4.5 MILLION TO $6 MILLION.

UM, AND SO, UH, SAME NUMBER.

THE $27 MILLION IS THE SAME NUMBER.

I JUST WAS A LITTLE BIT OF, OF AN OVERSIGHT, UH, IN, IN WHAT WE HAD REPORTED TO YOU THERE.

UM, AND 13 SEGMENTS AS WELL AS, UM, THE PROJECTS, UH, THAT ARE SCOPED HERE UNDER THE CONCRETE REPAIR REPLACEMENT, UH, RECALL, THIS IS A, A VERY INTERESTING, I THINK, INNOVATIVE STRATEGY WHERE WE'RE PROPOSING, UH, A TOTAL, AS YOU CAN SEE THERE, OF $25 MILLION.

SO $4 MILLION A YEAR, WHICH IS CURRENTLY TWICE THE AMOUNT THAT WE, WE, UH, DEVOTE IN OUR PEGO STRATEGY, UH, TO, UH, UH, LOCALIZED, UH, REPAIR.

AND THE OBJECT HERE, UH, OBJECTIVE HERE WOULD BE TO TAKE STREETS THAT ARE IN FAIR CONDITION OR EVEN IN GOOD CONDITION, BUT DETERIORATING AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE RETURN TO A GOOD CONDITION WHERE PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE MOVING FORWARD COULD BE AN EFFECTIVE TOOL, UH, IN THE SIDEWALK, UH, PROPOSITION.

REALLY, UH, THE, THE ONLY, UH, CHANGE HERE FROM OUR

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UH, THAT WILL ALLOW US, UM, UH, TO, UH, TO FURTHER, UH, THAT INITIATIVE THAT WAS BASED ON BOTH YOUR FEEDBACK AND THE FEEDBACK OF SPEAKERS THAT, UH, WE RECEIVED, UH, IN COMMENT IN THE, IN THE VISITOR'S FORM OF SEVERAL MEETINGS.

UM, ON THE DRAINAGE FRONT, A REALLY IMPORTANT PROJECT FOR THE HIGHLAND TERRACE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, THE LOWEST BRANCH, UH, PHASES ONE AND TWO, UM, IMPORTANT PROJECTS WITH A, A, UM, A, UH, NOTEWORTHY ROI, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, TEEING UP PHASES THREE AND FOUR, WHICH REALLY CHANGED THE DYNAMICS AND, UH, UM, AND, AND REALLY IMPROVE THE DRAINAGE, UH, FOR THE HOMES THAT ARE IMPACTED IN THAT AREA.

THIS IS A PROJECT THAT HAS BEEN, UM, UH, IS CONSIDERED IN PREVIOUS BOND PROGRAMS, SO WE'RE VERY PLEASED TO BE ABLE TO RECOMMEND IT.

UH, THE OTHER CHANGE WAS INCREASING, UM, THE AMOUNT FOR EROSION, UH, CONTROL PROJECTS, UH, FROM THREE AND A HALF, UH, MILLION DOLLARS IN OUR ORIGINAL PRO UH, PROPOSAL TO $5 MILLION.

THIS WILL ALLOW US, UH, TO, UH, FURTHER, UH, UH, GIAN, UH, TYPE PROJECTS, UH, PARTICULARLY MAYBE IN SOME OF THE AREAS THAT WE'VE HEARD MOST ABOUT, UM, UM, THROUGH, UH, RESIDENT OUTREACH AND, AND, UM, AND, UH, COMPLAINTS, UH, IMPORTANT, IMPORTANT WORK THERE THAT WE'LL BE DOING ON A LOT OF TRIBUTARIES.

UH, IN TERMS OF FACILITIES, UH, THIS ONE'S, UH, PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

UH, THE APPARATUS BUILDING THAT WE'VE DESCRIBED FOR YOU.

UM, UM, UH, AT $8 MILLION, UH, JUST NORTH OF FIRE STATION FIVE, RECALL, ALSO INCLUDED IN THIS WAS A HALF MILLION DOLLARS, UH, FROM, UH, FY 20, UH, LET'S SEE, FY 25, UM, SOLID WASTE RESERVES THAT WE'LL BE USING TO RELOCATE, UH, THE DUMPSTERS.

AND, UH, PREPARE A SITE OVER ON THE LOOKOUT, UH, JUST TO, UM, UH, THE, THE, UH, WEST OF THE, UM, FIRE TRAINING CENTER ENTRANCE, UH, AND RELOCATE THOSE DUMPSTERS PERMANENTLY.

UH, FIRE STATION SIX IMPORTANT ADDITIONS THERE.

UH, IMPORTANTLY TO NOTE, UH, THIS WILL BE THE LAST OF OUR FIRE STATIONS, UH, THAT WE, UH, WILL BE PERFORMING RENOVATIONS ON IMPORTANT, UH, A DA WORK AS WELL AS, UH, BRINGING THEM UP TO DATE FOR, UH, BOTH MALE AND FEMALE FIREFIGHTERS TO USE.

UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, UH, THE $2.4 MILLION IS FOR THE DESIGN, AGAIN, FOR FIRE STATION.

UH, NUMBER SEVEN, AGAIN, NOT TO BE REPETITIVE, BUT THE AUTHORIZATION ALSO OF $23.5 MILLION.

HOWEVER, THAT, UH, 25 3, UH, $23.5 MILLION WOULD NOT BE SOLD AS PART OF THIS BOND PROGRAM.

UH, PARKS AND REC, UH, IMPORTANT AQUATICS PROJECTS, THE COTTONWOOD POOL REMOVAL AND THE ADDITION OF A SPRAY GROUND AT 2.7 MILLION CANE CREEK POOL RENOVATION AT 2.3.

AND THEN, UM, THE BRECKENRIDGE PARK COMPLEX B PROJECT, WHICH WILL INCLUDE A SPRAY GROUND, A RESTROOM, AND, UH, THE PARKING LOT, UH, ALL THAT FOR 11.5 MILLION.

UH, ALL OF, UH, THE PLAYGROUNDS.

UH, WE, WE DID ADD BACK, UH, THE PLAYGROUNDS THAT WERE, UH, LAST, UH, RENOVATED, UM, I THINK IT WAS 2009 THROUGH ABOUT 2013.

SO THIS KEEPS US ON THE 20 YEAR, UH, CYCLE THAT WE DESCRIBED TO YOU.

AND THEN AGAIN, UH, FURTHERING THAT GOAL OF REALLY ADVANCING PLANS THAT HAVE, UH, UH, STARTED.

BUT, UM, BUT, UH, NEED, UH, SOME ADDITIONAL RESOURCES TO COMPLETE, UH, UH, THE BRECKENRIDGE, UH, PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE AND TRAIL CONNECTION.

UH, THAT WAS, UH, PART OF, UH, IMPORTANT PLANNING WORK, UM, FOR, UM, BRECKENRIDGE PARK, UH, STARTED, UH, IN, IN PRIOR, UM, BOND PROJECTS, UH, IN, UH, IMPORTANT ADDITION HERE TO BE ABLE TO KIND OF COMPLETE, UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE, UH, COMPOSITION OF THE RECOMMENDED BOND PROGRAM, UM, THAT WE PRESENTED TO YOU.

UH, UH, JUST SHY OF 60% GOING TO OUR CORE INFRASTRUCTURE OF STREETS, ALLEYS, UH, AND, UM, UH, UH, THE, UH, $36 MILLION FOR THE FIRE APPTUS BUILDING FIRE STATION SIX, AND ULTIMATELY FOR THE DESIGN.

AND, UM, ULTIMATE CONSTRUCTION OF FIRE STATION SEVEN, UH, THE PARKS, SIDEWALKS, UM, AND, UH, DRAINAGE, UH, THAT YOU SEE DRAINAGE AND, UM, AND SIDEWALKS.

SO WITH THE INCREASED REC, INCREASED DOLLARS, UH, BEING RECOMMENDED, UH, GARNERING A A LITTLE BIT HIGHER, UH, PERCENTAGE OF THE OVERALL, UM, PROGRAM THIS YEAR THAN, UH, THAN LAST, UH, UH, IN 2021.

AND SO, MAYOR, THAT'S A, A QUICK SUMMARY, BUT I THINK A THOROUGH SUMMARY OF WHAT WE PRESENTED TO YOU, UH, AT THIS TIME, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF THE COUNCIL HAS ANY.

IF NOT, UM, I'LL, I TURN IT BACK OVER TO YOU, SIR, TO, UH, OPEN UP THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING.

SURE.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE COUNCIL? ALL RIGHT.

SEEING NONE, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND SEE IF THERE ARE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS.

MS. DAMER? I DON'T HAVE ANY CARDS, MAYOR.

MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, WHICH IS A PUBLIC HEARING ZONING FILE.

IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT DOES CARE TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE.

UM, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? YES.

MAYOR PRO TEM HUD MAYOR, I'D MAKE A MOTION THEN TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ALRIGHT, WE GOT A MOTION.

COUNCIL MEMBER, DORIAN, I'LL SECOND THAT.

WE HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHIN RIDER.

SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER DORIAN.

ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

UH, THERE WILL BE A SECOND PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS, UH, BOND PROGRAM, UH, ON JANUARY 12TH, 2026 AT 6:00 PM ALRIGHT, WE'LL

[7. PUBLIC HEARING, ZONING FILE ZF 25-18, AND CONSIDER ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF RICHARDSON, TEXAS, AMENDING THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE AND ZONING MAP TO GRANT A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R-1800-M RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR THE R-1800-M RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT WITH DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS FOR A 18.16-ACRE TRACT OF LAND LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF APOLLO ROAD, THE WEST SIDE OF AMHERST AVENUE, AND THE NORTH SIDE OF SYRACUSE DRIVE. (THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING CONTINUATION TO THE FEBRUARY 23, 2026 MEETING.)]

25 DASH 18 ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE TO GRANT A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R 1800 M RESIDENTIAL

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DISTRICT TO PD PLAN DEVELOPMENT FOR THE R 1800 M RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT WITH DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS FOR AN 18.16 ACRE TRACT OF LAND LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF APOLLO ROAD, THE WEST SIDE OF AMHERST AVENUE, AND THE NORTH SIDE OF SYRACUSE DRIVE.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

UH, MAYOR COUNSEL, UM, AS YOU, UH, PROBABLY, UM, ALREADY KNOW FROM YOUR PACKET, UH, RSD UH, DID REACH OUT, UH, WORKING WITH, UH, OUR DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, TINA FERGUS AND, AND HER TEAM, AND REQUESTED A, A CONTINUANCE.

UH, THEY ARE, UM, THEY WANT TO BE RESPONSIVE TO SOME OF THE, UH, QUESTIONS THAT WERE RAISED IN CPC AND SOME OF THE FEEDBACK THAT THEY'VE RECEIVED SUBSEQUENTLY, UH, BY DOING ADDITIONAL, UM, TRAFFIC, UH, IMPACT ANALYSIS.

AND SO, UM, UH, IN KEEPING WITH, UM, OUR TRADITION, UM, WE ARE NOT GONNA MAKE A PRESENTATION TONIGHT.

WE'LL, WE'LL, UH, HOLD OFF ON THAT.

BUT, UH, MAYOR, UM, IT HAS BEEN TRADITION, UH, JUST IN CASE ANYONE IS HERE WHO IS ASKED TO, UH, WHO WOULD, WHO WAS, UH, IN ATTENDANCE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WOULD LIKE TO MAKE COMMENTS FOR YOU TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT THEN, UM, UH, TO NOT CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT CONTINUE, UM, THE PUBLIC HEARING TO FEBRUARY 23RD AT WHICH TIME STAFF WILL PRESENT ITS, UH, PRESENTATION RSD WILL BE HERE TO PRESENT AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.

AND THEN AGAIN, ANYONE WHO ATTENDS THAT NIGHT AND WANTS TO PROVIDE COMMENTS CAN DO SO, UH, BECAUSE YOU WILL NOT CLOSE THE HEARING, YOU'LL, YOU'LL LEAVE IT OPEN.

SO THAT'LL BE, UH, OUR SUGGESTION.

WONDERFUL.

AND A WAY TO PROCEED SO THE PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN.

ARE THERE ANY SPEAKERS OR ANYBODY WHO IS WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? I HAVE NO CARDS, MAYOR.

FEBRUARY 20 HEARING UNTIL FEBRUARY 23RD, 2026.

ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE? ALRIGHT.

SEEING NONE, I WILL DEFINITELY ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

MAYOR PRO TAM HUTCHIN RIDER MAYOR, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THE, UM, PUBLIC HEARING.

WONDERFUL.

AND COUNCIL MEMBER CORCORAN SECOND.

ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A, SORRY.

I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, UH, UH, MAYOR PRO TEM, COULD YOU SAY 6:00 PM AT 6:00 PM THANK YOU.

NUMBER EIGHT, WHICH IS A PUBLIC HEARING ZONING FILE 25 DASH 21 AND CONSIDER ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE TO GRANT A SPECIAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO MODIFY THE STANDARDS OF THE MAIN STREET CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY FORM-BASED CODE FOR 1.08 ACRES.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHIN RIDER, AND STILL A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER CORCORAN.

ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY AND WE'LL BE CONTINUED UNTIL FEBRUARY 23RD, 2026 AT 6:00 PM UM, WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM

[8. PUBLIC HEARING, ZONING FILE ZF 25-21, AND CONSIDER ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF RICHARDSON, TEXAS, AMENDING THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE AND ZONING MAP TO GRANT A SPECIAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO MODIFY THE STANDARDS OF THE MAIN STREET/CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY FORM-BASED CODE FOR 1.08-ACRES AND LOCATED AT 600 S. CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY.]

LOCATED AT 600 SOUTH CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY.

MR. MAGNER.

THANK YOU MAYOR, UH, MAYOR AND COUNCILLOR AARON ZILLS IS OUR PLANNER, TOO, IS GONNA LEAD THIS BRIEFING.

I, I WANT TO AGAIN, ACKNOWLEDGE, UH, OUR DIRECTOR, UH, TINA FERGUS FOR BEING HERE.

THANKS FOR EVERYTHING YOU GUYS HAVE DONE TO PREPARE THE BRIEFING TONIGHT.

I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU FOR FURTHER BRIEFING.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNSEL.

UH, TONIGHT I'LL BE PRESENTING ZONING FILE 25 21, WHICH IS A SPECIAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR A LAW OFFICE.

UH, BEFORE WE GO INTO THE ACTUAL PRESENTATION ITSELF, UH, WE'LL KIND OF GO OVER WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TONIGHT IN THE ZONING MECHANISM AS WELL AS KIND OF OUR STANDARD PRACTICE IN THE REST OF THE CITY.

UH, SO SIGN REQUESTS, UH, FOR THE, FOR THE REST OF THE CITY THAT ARE NOT IN THIS SPECIFIC, UH, PLAN DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS THE MAIN STREET CENTRAL, UH, FORM BASED CODE THAT THE MAIN STREET CENTRAL HAS ITS OWN SPECIFIC SIGN REGULATIONS THAT ARE WRITTEN INTO THE CODE AND ADOPTED IN OUR, AND GOVERNED THIS PARTICULAR AREA.

AND, AND BECAUSE OF THAT, IT'S NOT SUBJECT TO CHAPTER 18, WHICH IS, UH, THE REST OF THE CITY'S, UH, SIGN CODE.

AND BECAUSE OF THAT SIGN REQUESTS DON'T GO TO THE SIGN CONTROL BOARD.

THAT'S WHY THIS ITEM IS GOING TO, UH, TO YOU ALL FOR A FINAL DECISION THROUGH, EXCUSE ME, THROUGH THE SPECIAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN PROCESS.

THAT PROCESS IS USED TO, TO MODIFY, UM, AMEND OR, UH, KIND OF MAKE FLEXIBLE THE RULES THAT ARE ALREADY SET IN THERE.

SO WHAT IS A SPECIAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN? A SPECIAL DEVELOP PLAN IS USED, UH, LIKE THIS REQUEST TO MODIFY ANY STANDARD OTHER THAN ONE SPECIFICALLY CALLED OUT AS MINOR MODIFICATIONS IN THE CODE AND A REVIEW BY THE CPC AND COUNSEL.

UH, IT ALLOWS APPLICANTS, UH, THE FLEXIBILITY TO ADDRESS CERTAIN MARKET CONDITIONS AND AS WELL AS IT RECOGNIZES THAT NOT ALL PROPERTIES ARE THE SAME.

STRICT COMPLIANCE COULD BE CONSIDERED MORE DIFFICULT THAN OTHERS.

UH, UH, FOR OTHER PROPERTIES, UH, PROPERTIES THAT MAY NOT HAVE REDEVELOPED OR ARE CURRENTLY UNDER A, UH, TRANSITION PHASE, UH, IT WOULD BE HARDER FOR THEM TO MEET THE, THE INTENT OF THE CODE, HENCE WHY WE HAVE THE SPECIAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN PROCESS, UH, TO, TO ALLOW SOME RELIEF, UH, TO THOSE STRICT REGULATIONS.

SO THE CODE READS, UH, THESE LAST COUPLE BULLET POINTS AS FOLLOWS, PER THE CODE, THE CPC AND, UH, COUNSEL MAY CONSIDER THE EXTENT TO WHICH THE APPLICATION MEETS ANY OF THE FOLLOWING.

ONE PROVIDES AN ALTERNATE MASTER PLAN APPROACH TO CONSOLIDATE MULTIPLE PROPERTIES AND, UH, TO CREATE A PREDICTABLE MARKET RESPONSIVE DEVELOPMENT AREA OR TWO, WHICH BETTER

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FITS, UH, WHAT WE'LL BE SEEING TONIGHT.

A, UH, FITS THE ADJOINING CONTEXT BY PROVIDING APPROPRIATE TRANSITIONS.

SO WE'LL GET INTO THE DETAILS NOW.

UH, THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 600 SOUTH CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY, LOCATED AT SOUTHWEST CORNER OF DUMONT DRIVE AND SOUTH CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY.

AGAIN, ZONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT UNDER THAT MAIN STREET CENTRAL FORM-BASED CODE UNDER THE GATEWAY COMMERCIAL SUBDISTRICT.

AND AGAIN, THE REQUEST TONIGHT IS FOR A SPECIAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO ALLOW FOR CERTAIN DEVIATIONS TO THE SIGN CODE OF THIS PLAN DEVELOPMENT.

SO HERE WE HAVE SOME SITE PHOTOS AND WE HAVE THE NORTH ELEVATION AND THE, UH, EAST ELEVATION.

UH, THIS WILL BE THE FOCUS OF THE, UH, THE PRESENTATION TONIGHT WHERE THE TWO SIGNS ARE BEING REQUESTED.

ADDITIONALLY, THERE IS A, AN EXISTING POLE SIGN ON SITE.

UH, IT IS NOT PART OF THIS REQUEST, IT ALREADY MEETS, UH, THE CODE TODAY.

UH, AGAIN, WE HAVE KIND OF AN OVERHEAD SHOT OF THEIR SITE PLAN, SOME GENERAL INFORMATION ABOUT THE PROPERTY.

UH, YOU CAN SEE THERE THAT THE, THE FRONT SIGN WILL BE FACING THE SOUTH CITRIX EXPRESSWAY AND THEN THE SIDE SIGN FACING, UH, DUMONT DRIVE, AND ALSO THE, THAT LOCATION OF THAT POLE SIGN.

SO THE FIRST, UH, SIGN WE'LL LOOK AT TONIGHT IS THE, UH, FRONT WALL SIGN.

SO THE CODE READS, UH, AS FOLLOWS, THE AREA ABOVE THE GROUND FLOOR SHALL HAVE A MAXIMUM COMBINED EFFECTIVE AREA FOR ALL SIGNS REQUIRING A PERMIT NOT TO EXCEED 5% OF THE TOTAL AREA OF EACH FACADE ABOVE THE GROUND FLOOR.

SO BASICALLY WHAT THAT MEANS IS WE CALCULATE, UH, THE, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF EVERYTHING ABOVE THAT GROUND FLOOR AND WE MEASURE THAT.

AND WHAT'S ALLOWED BY RIGHT, UH, PER THE CODE IS 5%.

NOW THE APPLICANT TONIGHT IS REQUESTING ABOUT 14.5% COVERAGE OF THAT, OF THAT SECOND STORY.

UH, SQUARE FOOTAGE, UH, BEING A DEVIATION ABOUT 9.5% IN TERMS OF SQUARE FOOTAGE, THAT KIND OF LOOKS LIKE A A 5%, IS THAT 24 POINT HALF UH, SQUARE FOOT SIGN ALLOWED BY RIGHT.

UH, THE APPLICANT'S REQUESTING ABOUT 71 AND A HALF SQUARE FOOT SIGN, UH, AN INCREASE OF 46, UH, AND THREE QUARTERS, UH, SQUARE FOOT.

UH, THE SECOND SIGN THEY ARE REQUESTING FACES DUMONT DRIVE THE, THE CODE READS THE SAME WAY.

IT'S THAT CALCULATION ABOVE THAT SECOND STORY, UH, AGAIN, 5% BY RIGHT, UH, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING JUST SHY OF 8%.

UH, AN INCREASE, UH, PERCENTAGE OF TO ABOUT JUST SHY OF 3%, UH, IN TERMS OF SQUARE FOOTAGE ALLOWED BY RIGHT IS 31 AND A QUARTER SQUARE FOOT SIGN.

AND THE APPLICANT'S REQUESTING ABOUT 49 SQUARE FEET AN INCREASE OF ABOUT 17 AND THREE QUARTERS, UH, SQUARE FOOT.

SO WE CAN PUT THIS APPLICATION INTO CONTEXT, UH, FOR THE WHOLE, UH, PLAN DEVELOPMENT.

THE, THE INTENT OF THE PD OF THIS PD SIGNED REGULATIONS IS TO SUPPORT BUSINESSES WHILE ALSO PROVIDING A, UM, A WALKABLE PUBLIC REALM AND PROVIDING THOSE BUSINESSES WITHIN THE DISTRICT A NOMINAL AMOUNT OF SIGNAGE.

UH, THIS IS AN ADAPTIVE REUSE OF THE PROPERTY, UH, MEANING IT CAN'T MEET THE FULL INTENT OF THE CODE WITHOUT SIGNIFICANT REDEVELOPMENT.

UH, THE CODE ENVISIONS LARGER AND TALLER BUILDINGS THAT ARE PUSHED UP TO THE FRONTAGE, WHICH, UH, WHICH WILL, WHICH WOULD ALLOW A LARGER, UH, SIGN.

AND AS WE CAN SEE THIS, THE CURRENT BUILDING IS FAIRLY SMALL AND TUCKED BACK AWAY, RESULTING IN A, A SMALLER ALLOWABLE SIGNAGE AREA.

UH, THE BUILDING IS ABOUT 110 SQUARE FEET, UH, SET BACK FROM CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY AND 150 FEET BACK FROM DUMONT DRIVE.

UH, SO THE REQUEST FOR A LARGE SIGN COULD BE CONSIDERED APPROPRIATE IN THIS CASE.

AND THE SIGNS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED APPEAR TO BE, UH, PROPORTIONATE TO THE BUILDING ITSELF.

UH, IN SUMMARY, UH, STAFF HAS NOT RECEIVED, UH, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT EITHER FOR OR AGAINST THIS, UH, PARTICULAR ITEM.

UH, THE CPC ON DECEMBER 2ND, 2025, VOTED NATIONALLY FIVE ZERO TO APPROVE THE REQUEST.

TASK PRESENTED.

UH, THE COUNCIL HAS A COUPLE OPTIONS TONIGHT FOR ZONING FILE 25, 21 AND THE ORDINANCE.

UM, YOU ALL MAY, UH, APPROVE IT AS PRESENTED AMENDED CONDITIONS OR DENY THE REQUEST.

UH, IF YOU ARE TO APPROVE IT, UH, AS PRESENTED, UH, WE, WE ASK THAT YOU HAVE TWO CONDITIONS.

THE FIRST CONDITIONS IS THAT THE PROPERTY IS DEVELOPED IN SUBSTANTIAL CONFORMANCE WITH THE SITE PLAN OF EXHIBIT B AND THE ELEVATIONS OF EXHIBIT C AS WELL AS A SECOND BULLET, WHICH IS, UH, NO ADDITIONAL PROPERTY OR EXCUSE, NO ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE SHOULD BE ALLOWED ON THE PROPERTY OTHER THAN WHAT'S, WHAT'S SHOWN ON EXHIBIT B AND EXHIBIT C.

UH, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

I CAN TAKE ANY QUESTIONS, UH, FROM THE COUNCIL AND THE APPLICANT IS ALSO HERE TONIGHT, UH, TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AARON.

I MAYOR PROAM HUTCHEN RIDER.

UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

UH, JUST A QUICK QUESTION.

SO WOULD THAT MEAN THAT THE POLE SIGN THAT IS ON YOUR, YOUR UNDER TWO NO ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE, WOULD THAT MEAN THAT THAT POLE SIGN THEN WOULD NOT BE

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ALLOWED TO BE ACTIVATED AND ASSIGNED BE PUT UP THERE? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING TO US? OR THAT'S NOT INCLUDED IN NUMBER TWO THAT YOU HAVE UP THERE RIGHT NOW THAT IS NOT INCLU? WELL, IT'S ADDRESSED IN, UH, IT IS COUNTED.

WE, WE'VE COUNTED THAT SIGN.

WE SAID IT'S THERE, IT MEETS THE CODE, THEY'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE IT AND THEY CAN REFACE IT.

UH, BUT NO ADDITIONAL, THEY COULDN'T ADD LIKE A SECOND WHOLE SIGN IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.

SO IN FOLLOW UP, WOULD WE BE ABLE TO SAY THAT THEY COULD ONLY HAVE THE TWO NEW SIGNS THAT THEY PROPOSE AND NOT THE POLE SIGN? BECAUSE THAT WOULD IN ESSENCE GIVE 'EM THREE SIGNS IF I'M UNDERSTANDING WHAT YOU'RE PRESENTING AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

SO THEY'D BE ABLE TO PUT THE TWO ON THE BUILDING PLUS THE POLE SIGN, WHICH WOULD BE THREE, WHICH TO ME SEEMS TO BE, AND JUST MY OPINION, EXCESSIVE.

SO I'M JUST ASKING THE QUESTION, CAN WE AS OUR ACTION, IF EVERYONE WAS IN AGREEMENT, COULD WE SIMPLY SAY THAT YOU COULD HAVE THE TWO SIGNS ON THE BUILDING, BUT NOT THAT POLE SIGN AS WELL? TINA, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

I BELIEVE THAT IS SOMETHING THEY COULD REQUEST.

YES, THE COUNSEL COULD MAKE THAT DIRECTION.

UM, IF, IF THAT WAS YOUR, YOUR CHOOSING, UH, I WOULD ACKNOWLEDGE THOUGH THAT THE SITE WITH THE EXISTING POLE SIGN DOES HAVE SOME, UM, RIGHTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

SO, UM, YOU, IF YOU WERE TO GO DOWN THAT PATH, THEN THE APPLICANT WOULD BE LOSING THOSE, THOSE RIGHTS TO THAT SIGNAGE.

I AM NOT SURE WHAT YOU MEANT BY THAT.

BY, BY THAT LAST COMMENT.

I'M SORRY, , YOU KIND OF, YOU YEAH, I WAS RIGHT THERE WITH YOU UNTIL YOU MADE THE COMMENT ABOUT LOSING RIGHTS.

I, I'M NOT SURE WHAT WE'RE, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING TO ME.

SO THE, THE SITE HAS HAD RIGHTS TO THAT EXISTING POLE SIGN AND THE ZONING ALLOWS FOR IT TO OCCUR.

SO IF YOU WERE TO TAKE THE ACTION TO REMOVE THAT SIGNAGE, I JUST WANTED TO CAUTION YOU THAT THE APPLICANT DOES HAVE RIGHTS TO THAT EXISTING POLE SIGN SO THAT THAT WOULD BE GOING AGAINST THAT AND JUST WANTED TO ADVISE YOU APPROPRIATELY OF THAT.

BUT, BUT I GUESS THAT'S MY QUESTION.

CAN WE DO THAT? SO IN ESSENCE, RATHER THAN HAVING THREE SIGNS, WE WOULD SAY THAT THEY COULD HAVE THE TWO TECHNICALLY YES, YOU COULD.

THE, THE ZONING ALLOWS FOR POLE SIGNS ALONG CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY AND THE MAIN STREET CENTRAL CODE.

SO YOU COULD CHOOSE TO ASK THE APPLICANT TO, OR YOU COULD CHOOSE IN, IN YOUR MOTION TO DIRECT THAT THAT POLE SIGN BE REMOVED.

LET ME ASK A FOLLOW UP QUESTION AGAIN.

NOW, BASED ON THAT, COULD WE ALSO SAY, WELL THEN YOU COULD HAVE THE POLE SIGN AND THE DUMONT SIGN, BUT NOT THE ONE ON, ON THE FRONT PART OF THE BUILDING.

WOULD THAT BE AN OPTION? YES, YOU COULD.

AND IN THAT, YES.

I WAS JUST, SORRY, I WAS TRYING TO THINK THROUGH, UM, 'CAUSE THE SPECIAL, I'M TRYING CONFUSION.

I'M JUST TRYING TO, THAT'S THE SPECIAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS, IS SEEKING TO DEVIATE FROM THE SIGNAGE ALLOWANCE.

OTHERWISE THE MAIN STREET CENTRAL CODE DOES ALLOW FOR THE, THE APPLICANT COULD COMPLY WITH WITH THE SIGN ORDINANCE, SO THAT THAT'S AN OPTION ALSO.

UM, SO, BUT IF YOUR ACTION THIS EVENING WAS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE INTERESTED IN ALLOWING FOR A LARGER SIGN ON THE DUPONT SIDE, BUT WE DO NOT WANNA ALLOW FOR A WALL SIGN ON THE CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY SIDE, UM, BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT THAT POLE SIGN, THEN I WOULD JUST BE SPECIFIC TO THAT IN YOUR MOTION AND THEN WE CAN UPDATE THE ORDINANCE, UM, ACCORDINGLY.

OKAY, GREAT.

COUNCIL MEMBER BARRIOS, UH, THANK YOU MAYOR.

I'M, I'M ALSO KIND OF QUESTIONING THE OVERS SIGNAGE LIKE MAYOR PRO TEM WAS, UM, I I THINK WE HAD SHARED SOME SIMILAR KIND OF CONCERNS OR, OR LOOKING AT IT SIMILARLY.

I, SO LOOKING AT WHAT HE, WHAT WHAT THE APPLICANT HAS, UH, PROPOSED FOR THE FRONT WALL, YOU KNOW, WHEN I LOOK AT THE INCREASE THEY'RE ASKING FROM WHAT'S ALLOWED, THAT'S A HUGE JUMP.

I MEAN, IT'S ALMOST THREE TIMES WHAT IS CURRENTLY ALLOWED, BUT IN ALL HONESTY THAT THE, THIS TYPE OF SIGN WHERE IT'S KIND OF THE LETTERING, I, I KIND OF LIKE THAT BETTER VERSUS IF THEY WERE TO BE PROPOSING BE A SQUARE LIT FROM THE BACK IN THAT SAME KIND OF DIMENSIONS, UM, EXTERNAL DIMENSIONS.

SO I GUESS THE QUESTION THERE IS CAN WE SPECIFY THAT IF WE WERE TO ALLOW IT, IT'S JUST THIS LETTERING TYPE VERSUS THE WHOEVER COMES BEHIND, OR LET'S SAY THEY CHANGE THEIR MIND BECAUSE WE'RE ALLOWING IT, WE'RE NOT APPROVING THIS SPECIFIC TYPE OF SIGN, WE'RE JUST APPROVING THE SIZE.

SO THEY COULD IN THEORY, CHANGE IT TO A SQUARE, KIND OF LIT FROM BE BEHIND AND IT LOOKS SO MUCH BIGGER THAN WHAT'S SHOWN HERE.

SO CAN WE SPECIFY, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE WORDING OF THIS TYPE OF SIGN IS, WHERE WE HAVE THE LETTERING AND SPACE BETWEEN LETTERING.

SO IT JUST, IT'S THE ACTUAL LETTERING AND THE, THEIR LOGO THAT LIT UP.

IT'S, IT'S CHANNEL LETTERING, CHANNEL LETTERS.

THOSE INDIVIDUAL, YOU CALL THAT INDIVIDUAL CHANNEL LETTERS.

SO BECAUSE THE SIGN IS, UM, DETAILED IN THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS, THIS IS, THIS EXHIBIT IS ATTACHED TO THE ORDINANCE.

SO THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE LIMITED TO.

SO SOMEBODY COULD NOT COME BACK IN AND REQUEST TO CHANGE OUT THIS SIGN FOR SOMETHING ELSE.

BACK AND FOLLOW THE CURRENT SIGN ORDINANCE AND, AND BE LIMITED TO THAT 5%.

THEY, THEY WOULD EITHER HAVE TO COME

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OR IF THEY WANTED A SIGN THIS LARGER THAN WHAT'S SHOWN HERE, THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW THIS.

SO THIS IS WITH THIS SPECIFIC APPLICANT, SO IT CORRECT, A COUPLE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, THEY MOVED TO A DIFFERENT BUILDING.

RIGHT.

THEY, THEY WOULD HAVE TO FOLLOW WHATEVER SIGN ORDINANCE PERTAINS TO THAT PARTICULAR BUILDING THAT THEY WOULD MOVE TO.

AND WHOEVER COMES IN, UM, TO OCCUPY THIS BUILDING WOULD THEN BE LIMITED TO THE SIGNAGE ALLOWANCE PROVIDED FOR IN THE MAIN STREET CENTRAL CODE.

SO LET'S, LET'S SAY, UM, THIS PERSON NO LONGER OCCUPIES IT AND AARON OPENS UP, UM, A RESTAURANT BUSINESS.

SURE.

AND THERE ARE ANOTHER OFFICE BUSINESS THAT'S ALLOWED IN THERE AND THEY PROPOSE SIGNAGE THAT COMPLIES WITH THE EXISTING MAIN STREET CENTRAL CODE.

SO THEY WOULD BE ABLE, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO DO SO THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW THE WALL SIGNAGE PARAMETERS THAT ARE PROVI OR REGULATIONS THAT ARE PROVIDED FOR IN THE MAIN STREET CENTRAL CODE.

SO THEY HAVE TO, WHAT'S CURRENTLY ALLOWED TODAY, THAT'S CURRENTLY ALLOWED TODAY BECAUSE THE, THE APPLICANT HAS THAT OPTION ALSO TODAY, IS TO FOLLOW WHAT'S IN THE CODE AND, AND ADHERE TO THE 5%.

THEY'RE JUST ASKING FOR A LITTLE BIT OF RELIEF.

'CAUSE THE CHALLENGE WE HAVE HERE IS WE HAVE SUCH A SMALL BUILDING ON THAT PROPERTY AND SO THAT'S WHY THEY'RE ASKING FOR THAT RELIEF.

THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER CORCORAN.

THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.

SO MAYOR PROTO AND COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, BARRIOS, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I LOOK AT THIS AND I SEE A, A REALLY SMALL SIGN AND THE PARKING WELL, I FEEL LIKE A RELATIVELY ALSO REALLY SMALL, A RELATIVELY SMALL SIGN IN THE PARKING LOT AND SORT OF RELATIVELY SMALL ADJUSTMENTS.

AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT I'M, YOU KNOW, I DON'T NECESSARILY IN FAVOR OF ALL THREE SIGNS.

I GUESS I JUST WOULD LIKE ONE OF THE TWO OF Y'ALL TO EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE TO ME, WHAT IS, LIKE, WHAT'S SO ONEROUS OR WHAT IS LIKE SORT OF THE, THE REASONING BEHIND GETTING RID OF ONE OF THE THREE OR WHAT MAKES IT EXCESSIVE IN LIKE Y'ALL'S OPINION.

MAYBE LET'S SAVE THAT FOR WHEN WE DO OUR COUNCIL DISCUSSION AFTER.

NO, IT'S, IT'S FAIR ENOUGH.

YOU KNOW, WE STILL, YOU'VE BEEN ON A BREAK, STILL COULD CALL ON THE APPLICANT.

WE'VE BEEN ON A BREAK AND I JUST GOT AHEAD OF MYSELF.

TOTALLY.

NOT A PROBLEM AT ALL.

UH, COUNCIL MEMBER DORIAN.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

I, I WAS ACTUALLY, UH, UH, THINKING ALONG THE SAME LINES AS, UH, MAYOR PRO TIMM HUTCHIN WRITER, THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE THREE SIGNS I THINK IS A LITTLE EXCESSIVE.

UM, TWO QUESTIONS I HAVE TO THAT IF, IF, IF THEY'RE ALLOWED TO PUT THE SIGNAGE ON THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING AND, AND THEY KEEP THE POLE AS IS BUT NOT USE IT, WILL THAT POLE NEED TO BE REMOVED OR WILL IT JUST STAY INACTIVE OR, THAT'S ONE, ONE QUESTION ON THAT SIDE.

SO I MEAN, YOU CAN CONDITION ANYTHING, RIGHT? SO IF YOU WANNA SAY THAT THE POLE SIGN HAS TO BE REMOVED IN EXCHANGE FOR PROVIDING THE VARIANCE FOR THE TWO INCH HATCH SIGNS, THAT'S YOUR, THAT'S YOUR LATITUDE.

IF THE, IF THE APPLICANT DOESN'T WANT TO ADHERE TO THAT, THEN THEY JUST HAVE TO FOREGO THE, THE VARIANCE ON THE BUILDING FOR THE TWO ATTACHED SIGNS.

AND IF, IF, IF WE WERE TO, UH, STIPULATE NO SIGNAGE ON THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING, BUT SIGNAGE ON THE EXISTING SIGN, WOULD THEY BE ABLE TO ENLARGE THAT CURRENT SIGNAGE OR WOULD IT BE USED AS IS THE POLE SIGN YOU MEAN THE POLE SIGN? YES.

THEY CAN ONLY REFACE THE POLE SIGN.

SO IT CAN'T, THEY CAN'T EXPAND.

THEY CAN'T EXPAND IT, THEY CAN'T, UH, HEIGHTEN IT.

THE POLE AND IT, BUT, AND IT CAN BE LIT OR NON LITT RIGHT ON THE PULSE SIDE, CORRECT.

WELL, IT'S BACK LIT I THINK, IF I'M REMEMBER RIGHT.

SO IT'D BE INTERNALLY ILLUMINATED IS MY UNDERSTANDING I THINK IS UM, IS HOW THAT SIGN IS.

AND I, I DROVE BY, I DIDN'T SEE IT ANYTHING ACTIVATED.

I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS BACK LIT ON BOTH SIDES.

THE APPLICANT MIGHT BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT, UM, AND BE ABLE TO ADVISE US WHETHER OR NOT IT'S ETERNALLY ILLUMINATED OR IF THEY HAVE SOME SORT OF EXTERNAL LIGHT THAT'S SHINING ON THAT POLE SIGN.

AND MY LAST QUESTION ON BACK ON THE LIGHTING AGAIN IS IT SAYS ON THE SCHEMATIC HERE THAT THE LIGHTING ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING FACING DUMONT IS LED ACTIVATED, BUT IT JUST DOESN'T APPEAR THAT WAY.

IT LOOKS, UH, I KNOW IT'S CHANNEL LIGHTING, BUT IT LOOKS SOLID OPPOSED TO THE FRONT IS, AM I READING THAT CORRECTLY? IS THE SIDE UM, SIGNAGE AND THE FRONT SIGNAGE GONNA BE BACKLIT BOTH OF THEM SIMULTANEOUSLY? I WAS GONNA SAY AARON, UM, IF YOU DON'T KNOW THE END, IT'S TO THE APPLICANT, WE CAN ASK THE APPLICANT IF USUALLY INTERNALLY ILLUMINATE OR IN CHANNEL LETTERS EITHER INTERNALLY ILLUMINATED OR SOMETIMES THEY HAVE KIND OF A BACKLIT THAT CREATES MORE OF A HALO GLOW ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

SO, BUT THE APPLICANT COULD ADDRESS THAT IN GREATER DETAIL.

IF THIS WAS A SINGLE STORY BUILDING, WE WOULD BE ALLOWED FOUR TIMES THE AMOUNT OF ALLOWABLE SIGNAGE.

SOUNDS LIKE A PERFECT TIME TO CALL FOR THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR INFORMATION, UH, OR BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.

IS THE APPLICANT HERE TODAY WONDERFUL.

COME ON UP IF YOU DON'T MIND, UH, INTRODUCING YOURSELF AND YOUR ADDRESS AND WE'LL HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

GOOD EVENING COUNSEL.

MY NAME IS STEVEN BULL.

I'M THE, I AM AT 53 10 FLEETWOOD OAKS DRIVE IN DALLAS.

I'M THE PROJECT MANAGER FOR TEXAS PRO SIGNS, UH, WE'RE THE SIGN CONTRACTOR THAT'S BEEN ASKED TO PROVIDE THIS FOR JAIME BARONE IMMIGRATION LAW FIRM.

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AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE ONES THAT ARE CLOSER TO THE STREET THAT ARE ONE STORY BUILDINGS, UH, THEY'RE ALLOWED 20% OF THE FACADE WHERE WE RUN INTO THIS QUESTION, WHERE WE RUN INTO WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR HERE IS BECAUSE THIS IS A TWO STORY BUILDING.

HMM.

MY UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE SOME OF THIS CODE CAME ALONG FOR THE 5% OF A SECOND FAC OF ANY OF THE ADDITIONAL STORIES IS IF YOU HAVE A MULTI-STORY BUILDING AND YOU HAVE A, A MAIN CLIENT ON THE, ON THE BOTTOM FLOOR THAT SAY YOU HAVE SOME TENANTS ON THE UPPER FLOORS, THEY CAN EACH HAVE THEIR OWN SMALL SIGN.

AND THAT MAKES SENSE HERE.

THERE IS ONLY ONE CLIENT USING THE ENTIRE BUILDING.

IT'S A RATHER SMALL BUILDING, AND IT'S SET SO FAR BACK FROM THE, UH, SET FAR BACK FROM THE STREET.

I TOO WENT BY IT, UH, BEFORE THE, UH, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE MEETING, AND I WALKED, UH, THE SIDEWALK, UH, ABOUT A HUNDRED FEET DOWN THE SIDEWALK.

WELL, LOOKING AT THIS PICTURE THAT WAY, WHATEVER DIRECTION THAT IS, , UM, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF RESTAURANTS.

I THINK THERE'S A TATTOO PLACE AND A COUPLE OTHERS WHERE THEY'RE LITERALLY, UM, FROM HERE TO THIS WOMAN AWAY FROM THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING, IT'S RIGHT ON THE SIDEWALK.

SO HAVING A SMALLER SIGN THAT IS LITERALLY RIGHT THERE MAKES PERFECT SENSE.

UM, OF COURSE CODES, YOU DON'T WANT ANYTHING GARISH.

YOU WANT SOMETHING THAT'S ELEGANT AND APPROPRIATE TO THE ATMOSPHERE OF THE DISTRICT THAT THIS IS FOR.

AND IF THIS IS MEANT FOR A MIXED USE PEDESTRIAN DISTRICT, YOU DON'T WANT LAS VEGAS STYLE SIGNS ALL OVER THE PLACE.

ABSOLUTELY.

UM, THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING USED TO BE AN AUTO FLEX CAR DEALERSHIP, SO MOST OF THE PARKING IS OUT IN FRONT BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THEY HAD THE CARS.

UM, MR. ZILLS MAY OR MS P, OH, THERE YOU'RE .

MAY I TROUBLE YOU TO GO BACK TO THE STREET VIEW? OH, AM I GOING THE RIGHT DIRECTION? I THINK SO.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT IT FROM, THIS IS STANDING ON THE SIDEWALK, AND I REMEMBER DOING THE SAME THING.

SO THE PICTURES WHERE YOU SAW THE SIGNAGE ON THE BUILDING FROM THIS POINT OF VIEW, IT'S STILL NOT THAT VISIBLE.

SO THE PICTURE THAT MR. Z SHOWED WHERE YOU'RE SEEING IT CLOSER UP ON THE DESIGN DRAWING, OF COURSE WE'RE NOT GONNA SUBMIT OUR ENGINEERING DRAWINGS TO PERMITTING SHOWING IT SOMETHING THAT TINY.

THEY WANT TO SEE WHAT THE, WHAT THE SIGN IS.

SO WE HAVE THAT CLOSER UP VIEWPOINT.

BUT IN ACTUALITY, WHEN CUSTOMERS OR CLIENTS OR COMMUNITY MEMBERS DRIVE BY, THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE GONNA SEE.

SO THE SIGNS THAT WE ARE PROPOSING ARE WELL BELOW THE 20% THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED ON THE FIRST FLOOR.

UM, AND IN FACT, THE ONE, UH, THE SIGNAGE THAT'S ALLOWED IS ABOUT THAT BIG ON A BUILDING A HUNDRED FEET AWAY.

IT'S JUST NOT PRACTICAL.

UM, WE HAVE WORKED WITH A, UH, MS. PETERS AND MR. ZILLS PRETTY CLOSELY ON SOME COMPROMISES.

UH, WE CAME BACK TWO OR THREE TIMES ON WHAT ABOUT THIS? WHAT ABOUT THIS? UH, THEY CAME BACK WITH SOME SUGGESTIONS.

WE WENT BACK TO OUR CLIENT AND FOR INSTANCE, ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING, UH, WE HAD INITIALLY PROPOSED A LARGER SIZE.

UM, MS. PETERS CAME BACK WITH SOME REGULATIONS THAT TALKED ABOUT, UH, A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF BORDER AND WHITE SPACE AROUND THE SIGN BETWEEN, UH, THE EDGES OF THE BUILDINGS AND WHERE THE WINDOWS ARE, UH, AND THE SIGN ITSELF TO HAVE THAT WHITE SPACE AROUND IT TO MAKE IT LOOK MORE APPROPRIATE, WHICH WE ACCOMMODATED.

UM, SO, SO THAT WAS VERY HELPFUL ON THE POLE SIGN ITSELF, IT IS HARD TO OVEREMPHASIZE, ESPECIALLY SOMETHING ALONG CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY CENTRAL, HOW IMPORTANT A POLE SIGN IS FOR THE USE OF THE BUSINESS, UH, ESPECIALLY FOR A BUSINESS THAT IS THIS FAR BACK.

UH, IF THEY DO NOT HAVE, UH, USE OF THAT POLE SIGN, THAT WILL DRAMATICALLY DECREASE, UH, THE AMOUNT OF VISIBILITY FOR, UH, FOR THIS CLIENT.

UH, WE ARE TRYING TO UPGRADE THE CLIENTELE FOR THIS GOING FROM A CAR DEALERSHIP TO A LAW FIRM, IN ADDITION, UH, THE ONE COUNCIL MEMBER WHO WAS CONCERNED ABOUT A, A SIGN ON THE FRONT AND THE SIGN ON THE BACK OR ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING AS WELL.

UM, AND ONE OF THE THINGS MR. ZILLS BROUGHT UP IN OUR INITIAL DISCUSSION WAS, WELL, GEE,

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THERE'S A GIANT TREE.

UH, NO ONE'S GONNA SEE IT ANYWAY ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS I DID WHEN I DID MY WALK BY WAS I ACTUALLY, I'M NOT GONNA TRY TO TAKE PICTURES AND LOOK AT IT WHILE I'M DRIVING.

SO I WALKED ON THE SIDEWALK, BUT I WENT DOWN ABOUT 150 FEET.

AND ONLY WHEN YOU'RE ALMOST DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING DOES THE TREE BLOCK THE SIDE THE ENTIRE WAY COMING DOWN CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY TOWARDS THAT DIRECTION, THAT OPEN SPACE IS VERY VISIBLE.

AND IF YOU REMEMBER, AND I CAN GO BACK TO THAT PICTURE, THE SIGN ON THAT SIDE OF THE BUILDING IS RATHER ACTUALLY PRETTY SMALL.

WE, UH, MADE SOME, UH, COMPROMISES, UH, TO, TO ACCOMMODATE THE CODE AND TO ACCOMMODATE THE, UH, UH, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ON WHAT WE WANTED TO DO FOR THE, UH, THE SIDE ELEVATION.

UM, I WOULD STRONGLY DISCOURAGE DISALLOWING A FRONT SIGN THAT IS ESSENTIALLY THE MAINSTAY OF ANY TYPE OF BUSINESS IS TO HAVE THE SIGN ON THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.

UH, AND THE POLE SIGN IN THIS REGARD IS ACTUALLY, I THINK THE POLE SIGN IS, UH, PROBABLY 40% SMALLER THAN THIS SCREEN AS WELL.

SO AGAIN, IT'S NOT A GAR GARISH BRASH TYPE OF SIGN.

UM, TO ADDRESS THE, UH, THE EXCELLENT QUESTIONS ON THE TYPE OF SIGNAGE, THANK YOU.

UH, SO YOU ARE CORRECT.

CHANNEL LETTERS, GOOD LINGO, .

SO EACH OF THOSE LETTERS ARE INDIVIDUALLY MADE.

THEY HAVE LED LIGHTS ON THE INSIDE OF 'EM.

UM, YOU'LL, THE LETTERS ARE BLACK, SO WHEN THE LIGHTS ARE LIT UP ON THE INSIDE, IT WILL ILLUMINATE A SOFT GRAY.

SO AGAIN, IT WON'T BE ANYTHING GARISH OR OBNOXIOUS.

IT'LL BE A SOFT GRAY.

THERE IS NO BACK LIGHTING THE LOGO, WHICH IS GREEN.

WE WILL HAVE THE LEDS ON THE INSIDE OF IT.

AND IF I MAY, IF I DO THIS RIGHT, GO TO THAT PICTURE AGAIN.

SO YOU'LL SEE THE BLACK BAR BEHIND THE PICTURES OR BEHIND THE LETTERS, PARDON ME.

IT'S CALLED A RACEWAY.

BASICALLY THE LETTERS ARE MOUNTED TO THAT, AND THEN THAT RACEWAY IS MOUNTED TO WHAT ON THIS WILL BE A ANSWERED TYPE ROOF.

UM, AND THAT WAY THERE'S FEWER PENETRATIONS TO THE ROOF ITSELF.

UH, WE HAVE DONE OTHER TYPES OF INSTALLATIONS FOR OTHER CLIENTS WHERE EACH LETTER IS MOUNTED INDIVIDUALLY, BUT THEN YOU'RE MAKING A LOT MORE, UH, HOLES IN THE ROOFING AND A LOT MORE PENETRATIONS THAT RACEWAY WILL BE PAINTED THE SAME COLOR AS THE ROOF.

SO THAT WILL NOT BE NOTICEABLE.

AND, AND YOU, UH, SIR, POINTED SOME OF THAT OUT AS WELL, THAT THIS IS MORE ARCHITECTURALLY PLEASING THAN THE BOX TYPE OF SIGN THAT WAS ON THERE BEFORE.

UH, THE BOX TYPE OF SIGNS, WHICH IS JUST STRICTLY A BIG CABINET WITH A PLASTIC FACE ON IT, WITH LIGHTING BEHIND IT, UH, WAS PRETTY COMMON IN THE NINETIES.

IT'S REALLY INEXPENSIVE TO DO.

UM, BUT MOST CUSTOMERS THESE DAYS ARE GOING WITH MORE SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

IT IS A MORE ELEGANT SIGN.

IT'S A MORE EXPENSIVE SIGN.

UM, BUT IT DOES, UH, FIT THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE BUILDING MORE.

IT BLENDS IN, UH, WITH THE SURROUNDINGS.

AND, UH, AND LIKE I SAID, THAT THAT BLACK BAR BEHIND IT WILL BE PAINTED THE, UH, THE SAME COLOR AS THE ROOFING, UH, AS TO MAKE IT, UH, VIRTUALLY INVISIBLE.

UH, AND AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, EVEN AT THIS CLOSER UP, UH, VIEW, THE SIZE OF THE SIGN IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE SCALE OF THE BUILDING.

WE'RE NOT TAKING UP THE ENTIRE, UH, SIDE OF THE ROOFING.

SEE IF I HAD ANY OTHER, FROM MY NOTES HERE, I THINK THAT FULFILLS MOST OF WHAT I WANTED TO EXPLAIN ABOUT IT.

I'M SURE WE MAY HAVE OPEN TO QUESTIONS, HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

OF COURSE.

UM, I, I THINK SO FAR, JUST TO CLARIFY, I THINK WHAT I'VE HEARD IS, UH, THE POLE SIGN IS REALLY KIND OF A NON-STARTER, ESPECIALLY BASED ON THE BUILDING AND WHERE IT IS.

SO, AND IT MEETS CURRENT CODE, SO WE'RE NOT TOTALLY, TOTALLY, WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING OVER AND ABOVE ON THAT.

I'M JUST TRYING TO MAYBE UHHUH PRES ANSWER A SURE.

THROUGH THE QUESTIONS THAT WE HEARD EARLIER.

AND THEN, UH, YOU'VE ALREADY TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, UH, THE FACES AND WHETHER OR NOT YOU WOULD BE COMFORTABLE WITH A FRONT FACING OR NO FRONT FACING AND ONLY GETTING THE SIDE OR VICE VERSA.

CORRECT.

UH, I, I SEE ONE QUESTION BY, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, DORIAN, DO YOU? YES, THANK YOU.

YEP.

AND, AND, AND THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING SOME OF THE DETAILS THERE.

SURE, OF COURSE.

YOU KNOW, I TOO THINK THIS IS, UH, MUCH MORE ARCHITECTURAL THAN, THAN IT WAS PRIOR.

AND, AND THIS IS A, UH, VERY VISIBLE PROPERTY.

I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S PRIME PROPERTY.

YOU'RE ON A CORNER LOT, SO, YOU KNOW, AESTHETICALLY IT NEEDS TO BE ATTRACTIVE.

SO, AND I DO LIKE, I DO LIKE THE LAYOUT.

MY, UH, MY LAST QUESTION WAS, IS THE LIGHTING ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING, IS IT ALSO CHANNEL LIGHTING? I, IT SAYS IT IN THE SCHEMATIC, BUT IT LOOKS, IT DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE THAT WAY.

OR DID YOU ALREADY ANSWER THAT QUESTION? OH, NO, PERFECTLY FINE.

UH, THIS WOULD BE THE SAME STYLE OF SIGN THAT IS ON THE FRONT.

MM-HMM

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THAT WOULD BE INTERNALLY LIT WITH THE LEDS.

THAT WOULD HAVE A, A LIGHTER GRAY WHEN THE, IN, WHEN THE, UH, SIGN IS LIT UP, UH, THE LOGO WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT BRIGHTER GREEN, OF COURSE.

UH, AND NO, UH, NO BACKLIGHTING.

YES, THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, I THINK THAT'S ALL IN TERMS OF QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

WE MAY CALL YOU UP IF, UH, IF WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

OF COURSE.

AT THIS POINT, WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND SEE IF THERE ARE ANY COMMENTS OR PUBLIC COMMENTS.

UH, MS. NEER, ANY QUESTIONS? NO CARDS COMMENTS, MAYOR, ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WANNA PARTICIPATE? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHIN RIDER, MAYOR, MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ALRIGHT, I HEAR A MOTION.

COUNCIL MEMBER CORCORAN.

SECOND, SEE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO, TEM HUTCHIN RIDER.

SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER CORCORAN.

ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER BARRIOS? UH, MAYOR, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I JUST WANNA SAY MY COMMENTS EARLIER BASED ON THE APPLICANT'S, UH, EXPLANATION.

I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY MAJOR CONCERNS HERE.

I CAN SEE WHERE I DRIVE BY THIS PROPERTY ALMOST DAILY, AND, UH, I CAN SEE WHERE THE BUSINESS NEED IS THERE AND, UH, I'M OKAY WITH IT AS, AS, UH, PRESENTED.

AWESOME.

UH, COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE, UH, YEAH, THANK YOU.

I, UM, YOU KNOW, HAVING LISTENED TO EVERYTHING, I'M, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THIS AS WELL.

I THINK THAT THIS IS A GREAT, UH, ADAPTIVE REUSE OF THE PROPERTY, UH, FROM WHAT IT USED TO BE, UH, TO, TO BE A LAW FIRM.

SO I, I DON'T HAVE ANY CONCERNS AT ALL WITH, WITH THE SIGNAGE, AS IS EVERYTHING THEY HAVE BY RIGHT.

AND WHAT THEY'RE REQUESTING TO MAKE.

UH, IS IT A COMMENT OR A MOTION? MAYOR PRO TEM, IT'S A COMMENT.

OH, COOL.

, LET'S GO AHEAD AND GO.

I THOUGHT YOU WERE GONNA HAVE A MOTION.

OTHERWISE, FIRST, I ACTUALLY WANNA MAKE A MOTION.

UM, I WANNA CLARIFY, SINCE COUNCILMAN CORCORAN ASKED THE QUESTION, WE'VE ALWAYS HAD A LINE, WHENEVER WE'VE LOOKED AT SIGNAGE OF THE SIGNAGE WAS, WAS USED TO IDENTIFY A BUILDING BUT NOT TO MARKET.

AND SO MY CONCERN IS, IS THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THREE SIGNS ON ONE PROPERTY, I UNDERSTAND THE POLE SIGN.

I'M FINE WITH THAT.

I UNDERSTAND THE FRONT SIGN.

I'M JUST NOT SURE THAT, THAT THE SIGN ON DUMONT IS NECESSARY.

UM, BECAUSE AGAIN, THIS IS NOT, THIS IS NOT A BUSINESS WHERE SOMEONE'S GOING TO BE DRIVING DOWN ONE OF THE ROADS AND GO, OH, I THINK I'M GONNA POP IN HERE TODAY AND GET SOMETHING DONE.

IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A DESTINATION THAT YOU'RE GONNA PRE-SET UP AN APPOINTMENT YOU'RE GOING TO, TO GO TO.

YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A SPECIFIC BUILDING.

SO I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THE POLE SIGN.

I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THE FRONT SIGN.

I JUST THINK IT, IN MY ESTIMATION, IT CROSSES THAT LINE BETWEEN MARK APPROPRIATELY MARKETING A BUILDING SO THAT SOMEONE CAN FIND IT.

AND AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND THE POLE SIGN AND THE FRONT SIGN TO LAPSING OVER MY WORDS INTO MARKETING.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I'M OPPOSED TO THREE SIGNS.

I'M FINE WITH THE FRONT, THE FRONT TWO, I JUST DON'T THINK THERE'S A NEED FOR THE MONT SIGN.

AND I THINK WE, I THINK WE CROSS THAT LINE AND WE SET UP, AGAIN, EVERY TIME WE DO ONE OF THESE AND WE LOOK AT IT, WE ALWAYS LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, ONGOING PRECEDENCE.

SO THEN WHEN THE NEXT PERSON COMES IN AND SAYS, WELL, YOU KNOW, UH, THE, THE, THIS LAW FIRM HAS THREE, WHY CAN'T I HAVE THREE AS WELL? AND, AND, AND WE GET INTO THOSE TYPE OF CONVERSATIONS.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY OVERARCHING CONCERN, IS JUST NOT CROSSING THAT LINE.

SO THAT'S WHY I, I WOULD BE OPPOSED TO, TO PASSING IT AS IS.

I WOULD ASK FOR THE POLL IN THE FRONT AND FOREGO THE DUMONT BASED ON THE EXPLANATIONS THAT WERE PROVIDED TONIGHT.

YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE ANY CONCERN FOR, YOU KNOW, ANY OF THE ISSUE, BUT I COULD COMPROMISE, UH, THE BACK SIGN, YOU KNOW, TO BE THE SIGN THEY CAN GO MAX.

UM, COUNCIL MEMBER INE.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

UH, YEAH, I MEAN THIS IS, UH, YOU KNOW, THE PROPERTY IS IN A AWKWARD POSITION.

THIS IS SMALL BUILDING A HUNDRED FEET OVER A HUNDRED FEET FROM THE SERVICE ROAD.

AND, UH, VISIBILITY IS QUESTIONABLE THERE.

BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, NOWADAYS YOU CAN GO WITH THE GPS AND PROGRAM YOUR CAR AND GO TO THE PROPERTY.

UH, YOU KNOW, IN ONE SENSE YOU DON'T NEED TO PICK SIGN, BUT ALSO SAME TIME, YOU CAN REALLY ATTRACT BUSINESSES IF THERE IS NO SIGN THERE.

SO, UH, AND STILL THEY CAN HAVE THREE SIGN BY, RIGHT? THAT DOES, YOU KNOW, THEY JUST CAN'T HAVE BIGGER SIGNS.

THAT'S THE QUESTION, RIGHT? IF MY UNDERSTANDING, THEY CAN STILL HAVE A SIGN IN THE BACK THAT'S FIVE PERSON COVERAGE, WHICH IS 31 SQUARE FEET, UH, APPROXIMATELY.

SO WE CAN'T REALLY CONTROL THE NUMBER OF SIGN THERE.

UH, WE JUST HAVE TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE CAN DO IS THE SIZE.

THAT'S THE MAIN QUESTION.

SO, UH, PROBABLY THEY CAN GET BY WITHOUT A SIGN IN THE BACK.

I DO AGREE.

UH, BUT FRONT SIGN, BECAUSE OF THE BUILDING IS SMALL BUILDING.

THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, IT LOOKS LIKE SO BIG.

BUT OTHERWISE, THE SIGN IS NOT THAT BIG ITSELF.

SO I WOULD,

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SO COUNCIL MEMBER CORCORAN.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

WELL, MAYOR PRO TEM, UH, VERY WELL SAID.

I APPRECIATE THE EXPLANATION.

I THINK, UH, I, FUNNY ENOUGH, I FEEL LIKE YOU CHANGED MY OPINION ON IT, , SO, UH, SO THANK YOU FOR THE EXPLANATION.

SO, UH, I THINK MAYOR PRO TEM BRINGS UP A REALLY GOOD POINT, WHICH IS PRECEDENT.

SO I DO, I DO WANT TO AT LEAST EXPLAIN WHY I'M GOING TO VOTE THE WAY I'M GONNA VOTE, UH, JUST VERY QUICKLY, UH, SO THAT I DON'T CREATE THE WRONG PRECEDENT.

UH, FIRST OF ALL, I AM ALWAYS BULLISH ON TRYING TO REMOVE A POLL SIGN.

UM, AND SO FOR, FOR THAT REASON, I WOULD NORMALLY BE JUST SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.

I THINK, UM, THE PRESENTATION I THINK WAS INCREDIBLY HELPFUL FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THE IDEA OF IF THIS WAS, IF THIS HAD BEEN A ONE STORY BUILDING, THEY WOULD'VE HAD 20% ALLOWABLE SIGNAGE, UH, IN TERMS OF BASED ON THE SQUARE FOOTAGE.

AND SO THEY'RE ASKING FOR 7.84%, WHICH IS CONSIDERABLY LESS THAN THE 20% THAT THEY WOULD'VE HAD IF THEY WERE JUST A ONE STORY BUILDING.

UM, ADD THE A HUNDRED FEET, ADD SOME OF THOSE OTHER ELEMENTS TO ME.

UM, IT, IT JUST MAKES IT SUCH A, A, A VERY UNIQUE CASE.

UM, I THINK THE OTHER THING HERE THAT I'M THRILLED ABOUT AND THEREFORE WILLING TO BE A BIT MORE, UH, ACCOMMODATING IS THE FACT THAT YOU'VE REMOVED A CAR USE AND ADDED AN ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, WHICH, UH, IS, UH, AN UPGRADE IN, IN, IN MY BOOK.

AND SOMETHING THAT I'M VERY HAPPY TO SEE HAPPEN ALONG 75.

UH, I'D LOVE FOR THIS BUILDING AT SOME POINT TO GET TORN DOWN IN SOMETHING BIGGER TO GET BUILT, BUT, UH, I'LL, I'LL TAKE THIS BABY STEP, UH, FOR THE TIME BEING.

AND SO IT'S, IT'S FOR THOSE COUPLE REASONS, UH, WHY I WOULD BE, UH, ACTUALLY VOTING IN, IN FAVOR OF THIS, UH, AS PRESENTED.

UH, IT JUST, IT, IT VERY MUCH SEEMS AND FEELS LIKE IT WOULD BE, YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE MUCH BIGGER SIGNS IF IT WAS JUST A ONE STORY BUILDING.

AND SO, UH, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THIS, THIS REMAINS REASONABLE.

UM, AND TO I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER ARNE'S POINT, UH, THAT 20% COULD HAVE BEEN SPLIT BETWEEN THE FRONT AND THE SIDE.

AND IN THIS CASE THEY'RE JUST USING THE FRONT AND SIDE AT 7.8 INSTEAD OF 20.

SO THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS.

UH, COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE, I WAS JUST PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION WHENEVER YOU'RE READY.

OKAY, GO AHEAD, PLEASE DO.

YEAH, I WOULD I MOVE TO APPROVE ZONING FILE 25 21 AND ADOPT AN ORDINANCE AS PRESENTED WITH THE CONDITIONS, UH, REQUESTED IN THE PRESENTATION.