[CALL TO ORDER]
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I CALL THIS MEETING OF THE RICHARDSON CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER AT 6:00 PM I'LL NOW CALL ON JOE CORCORAN TO GIVE THE INVOCATION AND LEAD THE PLEDGES COUNCIL MEMBER CORCORAN.
GOD, PLEASE GIVE US WISDOM AND PATIENCE TO LEAD THIS GREAT CITY.
PLEASE GIVE EVERYONE HERE EVERYTHING THAT THEY WANT FOR 2026 AND MORE.
GOD, ALSO PLEASE A SPECIAL PRAYER FOR ALL THE PARENTS AND STUDENTS IN FRISCO, ISD TODAY, WHO HAD THEIR WHOLE DAY DISRUPTED BY A, UM, A VERY IMMINENT SCARE, UM, WITH A THREAT.
SO WITH ALL THAT, GOD, PLEASE JUST GRANT YOUR GRANT, YOUR PROTECTION OVER ALL OF US.
NOW, FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.
FOR ALL, HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD.
[3. MINUTES OF THE JANUARY 5, 2026 MEETING]
ALRIGHT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE, WHICH ARE THE MINUTES OF THE JANUARY 5TH, 2026 MEETING.MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE MINUTES, PLEASE.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHIN RIDER.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE.
ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[4. PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS AND VISITORS FORUM]
ALL RIGHT.WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, WHICH ARE PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS AND VISITORS FORUM.
WE ARE IN RECEIPT OF ONE CARD IN ADVANCE OF THE 5:00 PM DEADLINE.
UM, THIS CARD, UH, IS REGARDING ZONING CHANGE REQUEST 25 20, UM, FROM CHRISTIE CORTES MATHIS AT UH, 1309 MAGNOLIA DRIVE.
UH, SHE, UH, IS EXPRESSING, UM, SUPPORT FOR, UM, THE, UH, ZONING CASE.
AND YOU CAN SEE HER COMMENTS THERE IN SECTION SIX OF THE CARD.
UM, WE DO HAVE SEVERAL SPEAKERS FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS TONIGHT.
SO, UH, THE COMMENTS AND INSTRUCTIONS I'LL PROVIDE NOW WILL BE FOR ANYONE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK DURING THE VISITORS, UH, FORUM OR DURING A PUBLIC HEARING.
IF YOU'RE HERE FOR A PUBLIC HEARING, UH, PLEASE WAIT FOR THAT ITEM TO, FOR THAT PUBLIC HEARING TO BE OPEN.
IF THERE'S TIME DURING THIS INITIAL 30 MINUTES ALLOCATED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, THE REMAINING TIME, UH, WILL BE PROVIDED AS VISITORS FORUM OPEN FOR ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ANY TOPIC IN WHICH THE SUBJECT MATTER IS WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE CITY.
ALL SPEAKERS SHOULD COMPLETE A PUBLIC COMMENT CARD AND SUBMIT IT TO THE CITY SECRETARY.
SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER THEY RECEIVED.
WHEN YOUR NAME IS CALLED, PLEASE STEP TO THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
ALL SPEAKERS WILL BE LIMITED TO A MAXIMUM OF FIVE MINUTES AS INDICATED BY THE TIMERS.
WHEN, WHEN TIMER BEEPS, THE SPEAKER SHOULD CONCLUDE THEIR COMMENTS PROMPTLY.
SPEAKERS MUST NOT PHYSICALLY APPROACH MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL OR STAFF AND SHOULD REMAIN AT THE PODIUM DURING THEIR COMMENTS.
SPEAKERS WITH HANDOUTS MUST PROVIDE THEM TO THE CITY SECRETARY FOR DISTRIBUTION.
SUBMITTING COMMENTS ON THE SAME TOPIC ARE ENCOURAGED TO REDUCE REPETITIVE REMARKS BY INDICATING THEIR, THEIR COMMENTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN ADDRESSED.
OR BY SELECTING A REPRESENTATIVE.
SPEAKER, THE TEXAS OPEN MEETING ACT PROHIBITS THE CITY COUNCIL FROM DISCUSSING OR TAKING ACTION ON ITEMS THAT ARE NOT POSTED ON THE AGENDA.
CITY COUNCIL AND STAFF WILL NOT AFFIRM OR OPPOSE ANY SPEAKER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.
THE MAYOR, CITY MANAGER MAY RESPOND WITH FACTS, A POLICY OR DIRECT CITY STAFF TO RESPOND TO THE SPEAKER.
AFTER THE MEETING, THE AUDIENCE ASKED TO REFRAIN FROM APPLAUDING OR OTHER EXPRESSIONS OF SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION, A COPY OF THE COUNCIL RULES OF ORDER AND PROCEDURE.
AND THESE GUIDELINES MAY BE FOUND ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE.
AT THIS TIME, I'D ALSO LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE TO SILENCE THEIR CELL PHONES FOR THE DURATION OF THE MEETING.
MS. NEUER, IS THERE ANYONE FOR THE VISITOR SECTION OR, OR THE SPEAKERS FOR THE PUBLIC, UH, HEARINGS? UH, BOTH SPEAKERS ARE FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT, UH, WANTED TO COMMENT THIS EVENING? LET'S SEE.
[5. CONSIDER APPOINTMENTS AND REAPPOINTMENTS TO THE ANIMAL SERVICES ADVISORY COMMISSION, BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN ADVISORY COMMISSION, CITY PLAN COMMISSION, CIVIL SERVICE BOARD, COMMUNITY INCLUSION AND ENGAGEMENT COMMISSION, CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION, EISEMANN CENTER FOUNDATION, LIBRARY BOARD, PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION, SIGN CONTROL BOARD, TAX INCREMENT FINANCING (TIF) BOARDS, AND THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT/BUILDING AND STANDARDS COMMISSION.]
UH, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE, UH, WHICH ARE TO CONSIDER THE APPOINTMENTS AND REAPPOINTMENTS TO THE ANIMAL SERVICES ADVISORY COMMISSION.BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN ADVISORY COMMISSION, CITY PLANNING COMMISSION, CIVIL SERVICES BOARD, COMMUNITY INCLUSION AND ENGAGEMENT COMMISSION, CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION, EISMAN CENTER FOUNDATION, LIBRARY BOARD, PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION, SIGN CONTROL, BOARD TAX, INCREMENTAL FINANCE BOARDS, AND THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS, BUILDING AND STANDARDS COMMISSION.
MR. MAGNA, UH, THANK YOU MAYOR.
TONIGHT IS THE, UH, CULMINATION OF, UH, MANY HOURS OF WORK ON YOUR PART.
AS YOU RECALL, UH, YOU HAD A KICKOFF MEETING FOR YOUR ANNUAL, UH, APPOINTMENT CONSIDERATIONS IN NOVEMBER, AND THEN SPENT TWO MEETINGS IN DECEMBER, UH, INTERVIEWING APPLICANTS.
UH, WE WANNA WELCOME ALL THE APPLICANTS WHO ARE SELECTED FOR POSITION TONIGHT, AS WELL AS YOUR FRIENDS AND FAMILY.
WE'RE VERY HONORED TO HAVE YOU HERE TONIGHT.
UH, MAYOR, IF YOU AND THE COUNCIL WOULD, UH, RUN THROUGH A SET OF, UH, MOTIONS, UH, FOR YOUR APPOINTMENTS.
AND THERE ARE SEVERAL APPOINTMENTS FOR NEW CHAIR AND VICE
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CHAIR, UM, UH, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS AS WELL.UH, SUBSEQUENT TO THAT, MS. EMER WILL CALL EACH OF, UH, YOUR NEW APPOINTEES, UH, TO, UH, THE PODIUM BY BOARD TO BE SWORN IN.
UM, AND THEN WE'LL CONCLUDE THIS ITEM.
SO I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO YOU FOR THE MOTIONS.
ARE THERE ANY MOTIONS? COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE.
I MOVE TO APPOINT MAUREEN DOUGHERTY AS CHAIR, UH, FOR THE REMAINDER OF HER TERM DURING ENDING DECEMBER 31ST, 2026.
UH, RAY FAGRE AS VICE CHAIR FOR A NEW TERM ENDING DECEMBER 31ST, 2027.
AND GINGER W IS A MEMBER OF THE TERM FOR A TERM ENDING DECEMBER 31ST, 2027 TO THE ANIMAL SERVICES ADVISORY COMMISSION.
ALRIGHT, WE GOT A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE, A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER CORCORAN.
ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
UH, MAYOR PRO, TAM HUTCHIN, WRITER MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO REAPPOINT THE FOLLOWING FOR A TERM ENDING DECEMBER 31ST, 2027.
BILL CHANCE AS CHAIR AND RICHARD WALINSKI FOR THE COMMITTEE.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TIMM HUTCHIN RIDER.
A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER AINE.
ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
COUNCIL MEMBER DORIAN? UH, YES.
MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO, UH, MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE FOR CITY PLAN COMMISSION MOVE TO REAPPOINT THE FOLLOWING FOR A TERM ENDING DECEMBER 31ST, 2027.
GARY BEACH, JOSEPH QUIRK AND ALTERNATE BYRON PURDY.
I SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER DORIAN, UH, SECOND BY, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER BARRIOS.
ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
UH, COUNCIL MEMBER CORCORAN, I MOVE TO APPOINT BENJAMIN CRONIN AS CHAIR OF THE CIVIL SERVICE BOARD FOR THE REMAINDER OF HIS TERM ENDING DECEMBER 31ST, 2026.
AND THE FOLLOWING FOR A TERM ENDING DECEMBER 31ST, 2027.
LORI PATTON AS VICE CHAIR CHRIS SLE.
G GUS AND I WISH TO REAPPOINT MONA ALINI.
ALRIGHT, UH, MAYOR PRO TE RAD.
I WOULD LIKE TO SAY TO SECOND THE MOTION.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER CORCORAN, A SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHIN RIDER.
ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
COMMUNITY INCLUSION AND ENGAGEMENT COMMISSION.
I MOVE TO REAPPOINT THE FOLLOWING FOR A NEW TERM.
ENDING DECEMBER 31ST, 2027, SIR HAM AND APPOINT THE FOLLOWING NEW MEMBERS FOR A TERM ENDING DECEMBER 31ST, 2027.
GILDO, JORA AND VICTORIA PORTMAN.
SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER INE A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE.
ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? AND THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
THANKS MAYOR AND MAYOR PROAM HUTCHEN, MAYOR FOR THE CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION.
I MOVE TO APPOINT TED KJA AS CHAIR AND AMY TAYLOR AS VICE CHAIR FOR THE REMAINDER OF THEIR CURRENT TERMS. ENDING DECEMBER 31ST, 2026 AND THE FOLLOWING FOR A TERM ENDING DECEMBER 31ST, 2027.
MELANIE GUTHRIE SANDERS AND JOHN GIBSON.
AND, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER DORIAN.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHIN.
MATTER A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER DORIAN.
ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE TO A POINT WITH THE EISMAN CENTER FOUNDATION, MCKAYLA DOLLER, ALI HA, ALI HAYNES HAMLIN AND TODD GASTRO FOR A THREE YEAR TERM ENDING OCTOBER 1ST, 2028.
SECOND, UH, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER DORIAN, A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER CORCORAN.
ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
COUNCIL MEMBER BARRIOS FOR THE LIBRARY BOARD.
I MOVE TO APPOINT THE FOLLOWING FOR TERM ENDING DECEMBER 31ST, 2027.
JEANETTE ALTER, ANA TOWNSLEY AND JENNIFER JOHNSON.
ALRIGHT, MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHEN RIDER.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER BARRIO AND A SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHIN RIDER.
ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
MR. MAYOR, I MOVE TO REAPPOINT THE FOLLOWING FOR A TERM ENDING DECEMBER 31ST, 2027 TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION.
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LESLIE HUNTINGTON.JAMIE ROBERTSON AND KIMBERLY CISCO.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER CORCORAN.
A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER AINE.
ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
MAYOR PRO, TOM HUTCHEN, RIDER MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THE SIGN CONTROL BOARD TO APPOINT THE FOLLOWING FOR A TERM ENDING DECEMBER 31ST, 2027.
DEBORAH TAYLOR AS VICE CHAIR FREDERICK BEL.
AND BRIAN ROSE, AN ALTERNATE COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE.
SECOND, UH, WE HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHIN.
WRITER A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE.
ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
COUNCIL MEMBER BARRIOS MAYOR FOR THE TIFF BOARDS.
I MOVE TO APPOINT THE FOLLOWING FOR TERM ENDING DECEMBER 31ST, 2027.
RON TAYLOR AS CHAIR KELLY BARRINGER AS VICE CHAIR MARY POLOWSKI.
COUNCIL MEMBER AINE SECONDED ALL WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER BARRIOS A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER AINE.
ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE, UH, TO THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT BUILDING AND STANDARDS COMMISSION, I MOVE TO REAPPOINT THE FOLLOWING FOR A TERM ENDING DECEMBER 31ST, 2027.
REAPPOINT VICE-CHAIR SCOTT RUCKER REAPPOINT.
SABRINA BONAC AND REAPPOINT MUS MADHA.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE, A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER DORIAN.
ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
I'M GONNA CALL THE MEMBERS UP HERE BY THE BOARD.
CAN I HAVE GINGER OCK FOR THE ANIMAL SERVICES ADVISORY COMMISSION? AND AFTER I GIVE YOUR OATH, IF YOU WILL SEE CRYSTAL TO SIGN YOUR OATH.
PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND REPEAT OR AT THE END REPEAT.
DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR TO FAITHFULLY EXECUTE THE DUTIES OF BOARD MEMBER FOR THE CITY OF RICHARDSON ANIMAL SERVICES ADVISORY COMMISSION AND TO THE BEST OF YOUR ABILITY, PRESERVE, PROTECT, AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES AND OF THIS STATE, SO HELP YOU GOD? I DO.
CIVIL SERVICES BOARD, CHRIS GUS.
GUS, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND REPEAT, UH, RESPOND.
AT THE END OF THE OATH, DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR TO FAITHFULLY EXECUTE THE DUTIES OF BOARD MEMBER FOR THE CITY OF RICHARDSON CIVIL SERVICE BOARD AND TO THE BEST OF YOUR ABILITY, PRESERVE, PROTECT, AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS OF UNITED STATES AND OF THIS STATE.
COMMUNITY INCLUSION AND ENGAGEMENT COMMISSION.
CAN I HAVE GIRALDO AND VICTORIA? OKAY.
PLEASE BOTH RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND SAY I DO AFTER THE OATH, DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR TO FAITHFULLY EXECUTE THE DUTIES OF BOARD MEMBER FOR THE CITY OF RICHARDSON COMMUNITY INCLUSION AND ENGAGEMENT COMMISSION, AND TO THE BEST OF YOUR ABILITY, PRESERVE, PROTECT, AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES AND OF THIS STATE, SO HELP YOU GOD? I DO.
CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION, MELANIE SANDERS AND JOHN IPSON.
PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND REPEAT.
AFTER THE OATH, DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR TO FAITHFULLY EXECUTE THE DUTIES OF BOARD MEMBER FOR THE CITY OF RICHARDSON CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION AND TO THE BEST OF YOUR ABILITY, PRESERVE, PROTECT, AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES AND OF THIS STATE, SO HELP YOU GOD.
CONGRATULATIONS LIBRARY BOARD JENNIFER JOHNSON.
PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND STATE I DO AFTER THE OATH, DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR TO FAITHFULLY EXECUTE THE DUTIES OF BOARD MEMBER FOR THE CITY OF RICHARDSON LIBRARY BOARD AND TO THE BEST OF YOUR ABILITY, PRESERVE, PROTECT, AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES AND OF THIS STATE.
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CONGRATULATIONS.SIGN CONTROL BOARD BRIAN ROWE.
PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND STATE I DO AFTER THE OATH, DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR TO FAITHFULLY EXECUTE THE DUTIES OF BOARD MEMBER FOR THE CITY OF RICHARDSON SIGN CONTROL BOARD AND TO THE BEST OF YOUR ABILITY, PRESERVE, PROTECT, AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES AND OF THIS STATE.
THANK YOU, TIFF BOARD MARK BUSINE.
PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND STATE I DO AFTER THE OATH, DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR TO FAITHFULLY EXECUTE THE DUTIES OF BOARD MEMBER FOR THE CITY OF RICHARDSON TIFF BOARDS AND TO THE BEST OF YOUR ABILITY, PRESERVE, PROTECT, AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES AND OF THIS STATE.
THANK YOU MS. ER, AND CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL OF OUR, UH, SERVANT LEADERS.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING THE TEAM.
[8. CONDUCT A SECOND PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE PUBLIC INPUT ON THE 2026 BOND PROGRAM.]
UH, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON ACTUALLY, UM, UH, WE'RE GONNA ADJUST THE AGENDA JUST A BIT, UH, TO MOVE ITEMS EIGHT AND NINE UP ON THE AGENDA, UM, UH, AND HAVE, UM, UH, ITEM SIX, THE CHARTER AMENDMENT.AND, UM, UH, THOSE WILL BE LAST ON THE AGENDA.
UH, SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO NUMBER EIGHT.
UH, ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, WHICH IS TO CONDUCT A SECOND PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE PUBLIC INPUT ON THE 2026 BOND PROGRAM.
MR. MAGNER, UH, THANK YOU MAYOR.
APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY AGAIN, UH, TO REMIND THE COMMUNITY WHERE WE ARE IN THIS IMPORTANT PROCESS.
UH, THIS MIGHT LOOK LIKE A DEEP DIVE SCHEDULE FROM OUR BUDGET, UH, AND IT MAY HAVE FELT THAT WAY TO YOU, BUT, UH, IT IS IMPORTANT TO LET THE COMMUNITY KNOW, UH, HOW MANY TIMES, UH, YOU HAVE VISITED ON THESE PROPOSITIONS.
UH, ULTIMATELY, UH, LAST WEEK, HOLDING YOUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT, THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, AND THEN AT THE CONCLUSION OF THIS, UH, UM, BRIEFING TONIGHT, UH, AFTER THE YOU, UH, CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, WE'LL BE LOOKING FOR DIRECTION FROM YOU, UH, TO DRAFT A RESOLUTION FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION ON FEBRUARY 9TH TO CALL, UH, THE BOND PROGRAM, IF THAT BE, UH, YOUR DESIRE.
UM, AS WE TALKED ABOUT PREVIOUSLY, A NUMBER OF IMPORTANT GUIDING PRINCIPLES, UH, MAKING SURE THAT THE PROJECTS THAT ARE INCLUDED HERE.
FURTHER, YOUR COUNCIL GOALS MINIMIZE ADDITIONAL OPERATING COSTS, PRIORITIZE, UH, PROJECTS AND PRE THAT ARE, UH, HIGH HIGHLIGHTED IN PREVIOUS MASTER PLANNING EFFORTS, UH, BUILDS ON, UH, THOSE PLANNING EFFORTS, UM, BY COMPLETING OR, OR, OR, OR OTHER, UH, PLANNED IMPROVEMENTS.
AND THEN OF COURSE, PROJECTS THAT ARE CATALYTIC IN NATURE.
UH, THIS IS THE, UM, BREAKDOWN OF THE PROPOSITIONS AS PROPOSED.
UH, IT'S IMPORTANT TO RECALL, UM, PARTICULARLY ON THE, UM, PUBLIC BUILDINGS PROPOSITION, $23.5 MILLION OF THE $36 MILLION, UH, IS INCLUDED FOR AUTHORIZATION.
HOWEVER, WE DO NOT PROPOSE SELLING THAT, UM, INTO, UH, UNTIL THE FOLLOWING YEAR OF THIS BOND PROGRAM FY 2032.
UM, AND SO, UH, WANT TO HAVE THE AUTHORIZATION BUILT INTO THIS, UH, FOR CONSTRUCTION BECAUSE WE'RE ASKING FOR TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS, UH, FOR DESIGN MONEY.
AND I'LL COME TO THAT JUST A SECOND.
SO, JUST REMINDING ON THE PROPOSITIONS QUICKLY HERE, THE $17.6 MILLION PROPOSITION WAS OUR $15 MILLION RECOMMENDATION TO YOU WITH THE ADS, UH, FROM YOUR FEEDBACK AND THE PUBLIC INPUT, UH, TO INCLUDE $1.3 MILLION FOR NEW SIGNALS AT RENTER AND SHARP AND BELTLINE AND WEATHERED.
AND THEN, UH, INCREASE, UM, BY $1.5 MILLION TO TWO 4.2, UH, $4.2 MILLION TOTAL.
UM, SO THAT ALL SCHOOL ZONE FLASHERS, UH, SPEED, UH, FEEDBACK SIGNS AND A DA COMPLIANCE UPGRADES CAN BE MADE AS PART OF THIS PROPOSITION.
UM, REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE $114 MILLION, UH, JUST OF, UH, STREET PROJECTS, UH, THAT WILL BE INCLUDED.
YOU CAN SEE THE COLLECTORS, NEIGHBORHOOD COLLECTORS, UH, COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES THAT ARE LISTED.
UH, THE AT 13 ALLEY SEGMENTS AND THE CONCRETE REPLACEMENT ARE IDENTIFIED ON THIS, UH, MAP THAT YOU'VE SEEN PREVIOUSLY.
RECALL, THIS IS A NEW STRATEGY FOR US.
ON THE CONCRETE REPLACEMENT, YOU'LL SEE A TOTAL OF $25 MILLION OVER THE $5 MILLION, I'M SORRY, OVER THE FIVE YEAR BOND PROGRAM AVERAGING $5 MILLION A YEAR FOR LOCALIZED, UH, FULL DEPTH CONCRETE REPLACEMENT.
UH, THIS IS AN IMPORTANT STRATEGY NOT TO, UM, TO POTENTIALLY, UH, ELEVATE AND ENHANCE OUR $2 MILLION A YEAR THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING, UH, THROUGH OUR PEGO STRATEGY, UM, UH, THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.
BUT, UH, ALSO OPENS UP OPPORTUNITIES TO, UH, RECONSIDER THOSE DOLLARS, UH, FOR, UH, OTHER PROGRAMS LIKE ASPHALT OVERLAY PROGRAMS OR JUST TO FREE THOSE DOLLARS UP FOR OTHER USES.
NOW HAVING THIS $5 MILLION PER YEAR DEDICATED, UH,
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FOR THIS PURPOSE IN THE BOND PROGRAM.UH, SIDEWALKS, YOU SEE THE CONTINUATION OF, OF THE, OUR COMMERCIAL SIDEWALK, UH, UH, PROGRAM, UH, AS WELL AS OUR RESIDENTIAL SIDEWALK PROGRAM.
YOU SEE THE AREAS IDENTIFIED THERE.
THIS WAS ANOTHER AREA WHERE WE INCREASED BY $1.5 MILLION, UH, FUNDING TO ADDRESS SIDEWALK GAPS BASED ON, AGAIN, YOUR FEEDBACK AND THE FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVED, UH, FROM, UM, SPEAKERS AT SEVERAL MEETINGS PREVIOUSLY.
UH, DRAINAGE, UH, VERY IMPORTANT DRAINAGE PROJECT FOR THE HIGHLAND TERRACE NEIGHBORHOOD.
ONE THAT'S BEEN, UM, CONSIDERED AND TWO PRE, UH, PREVIOUS BOND PROGRAMS, UH, BUT DID NOT MAKE, UM, THOSE PROGRAMS. UH, THIS PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT.
UM, UM, WHILE THE RETURN, AS YOU SEE IN THE THIRD BULLET, THERE MAY NOT SEEM, UM, THAT HIGH ON THIS INVESTMENT.
THESE INVESTMENTS ARE CRITICAL, UH, FOR US TO BE ABLE TO, UH, COMPLETE PHASES THREE AND FOUR WITH FUTURE FUNDING.
UH, WHICH, UH, WHICH REALLY CHANGED THE DYNAMIC, UM, FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
YOU ALSO SEE AN ADDITIONAL $1.5 MILLION, UH, DEDICATED TO EROSION CONTROL PROJECTS.
THESE ARE PREDOMINANTLY AVIAN WALL PROJECTS.
UM, WE BELIEVE THAT THESE ADDITIONAL DOLLARS WILL EXTEND AND ALLOW US, UH, TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE SITU SITUATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO YOUR ATTENTION, UH, BY RESIDENTS OVER THE PAST SIX MONTHS.
UH, THIS FACILITY'S PROPOSITION COULD BE CALLED A FIRE PROPOSITION.
THE PRO PROPOSAL HERE IS FOR AN APPARATUS STORAGE BUILDING JUST NORTH OF FIRE STATION FIVE, WHERE, UH, THE, UH, DUMPSTER STORAGE, UH, CURRENTLY, UM, IS HOUSED.
$8 MILLION IS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE APP APPARATUS BUILDING, UH, AN ADDITIONAL $500,000, IF YOU RECALL FROM FY 25 YEAR SAVINGS FROM THE SOLID WASTE FUND WILL BE UTILIZED TO RECO RELOCATE THE DUMPSTERS, UH, TO LOOKOUT DRIVE, JUST ADJACENT TO THE NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT, UH, DISTRICT TRANSFER STATION ON CITY PROPERTY, UH, $2.1 MILLION.
ADDITION FOR FIRE STATION NUMBER SIX.
THIS WILL BE THE LAST OF, UH, THE EXISTING FIRE STATIONS THAT WILL HAVE A SIGNIFICANT RENOVATION, UH, ADDRESSING IMPORTANT, UM, UM, DORMITORY NEEDS AS WELL AS RESTROOM NEEDS.
UM, AND, UH, ALSO A DA COMPLIANCE NEEDS.
AND THEN, AS I MENTIONED, $2.4 MILLION FOR THE DESIGN OF FIRE STATION SEVEN INCLUDED.
UH, AND AGAIN, NOT TO BE REDUNDANT, BUT TO REALLY CLARIFY, UM, THE REMAINING $23.5 MILLION WOULD BE, UM, ONLY AUTHORIZED, BUT, UH, THE ACTUAL SALE OF THAT DEBT WOULD NOT BE SCHEDULED INTO FY 23, WHICH WOULD BE YEAR SIX, IF YOU WILL, OF THIS PROGRAM OR MAYBE YEAR ONE OF THE NEXT BOND PROGRAM.
FINALLY, YOUR PARKS AND RECREATION PROPOSITION.
UH, THREE COMPONENTS AQUATICS.
UM, THE PROPOSAL, UM, FROM YOUR ADOPTED AQUATICS MASTER PLAN INCLUDES, UH, A COTTONWOOD POOL REMOVAL, AND IN THE ADDITION OF A SPRAY GROUND, UH, CANYON CREEK POOL RENOVATION, AND THEN THE BRECKENRIDGE COMPLEX B SPRAY GROUND, UH, RESTROOM AND PARKING LOT, UH, ALL OF THE PLAYGROUNDS THAT WERE, UM, PROPOSED, UM, IN THE REGULAR, UH, RHYTHM OF OUR REPLACEMENT SCHEDULE ARE INCLUDED.
UH, AND THEN FINALLY, A BRECKENRIDGE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE AND TRAIL CONNECTION, UH, COMING OUT OF, UH, IMPORTANT PLANNING WORK THAT YOU SEE, UH, THE GRAPHIC THERE AT THE BOTTOM LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE, THE, UH, SLIDE, UM, THAT HAS, UH, DATA BACK, UH, SEVERAL BOND PROGRAMS. AND THIS WILL BE THE CONTINUATION OF THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT PROGRAM.
SO, AS YOU LOOK AT THE RECOMMENDED BOND PROGRAM COMPOSITION, YOU'LL SEE NEARLY 60% DEDICATED TO STREETS AND ALLEYS AND TRAFFIC, UH, AT 16% TO THE PUBLIC BUILDINGS.
THE THREE PROJECTS I MENTIONED, UH, 10% FOR PARKS, UM, AND SEVEN, UH, 7.3% FOR SIDEWALKS AND DRAINAGE, UH, RELATIVE, UH, TO, UH, PRIOR YEARS.
UH, MAYOR AT THIS TIME, UH, IF THERE ARE, UH, ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL, I'D BE HAPPY TO RESPOND TO THOSE.
UH, AF AFTER THAT, YOU'LL OPEN UP, UH, HOLD YOUR PUBLIC HEARING.
THEN, UH, AGAIN, AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, I'D BE LOOKING FOR DIRECTION FROM THE COUNCIL, UM, TO, UM, DRAFT THE RESOLUTION AND BRING IT BACK ON THE 9TH OF FEBRUARY FOR YOUR ACTION.
ANY QUESTIONS? BY COUNCIL, MAYOR, I'M SORRY, COUNCIL MEMBER? UH, BARRIOS.
MAYOR, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.
WILL, AFTER WE ASK QUESTIONS, WILL BE THERE, BE DISCUSSION TIME LATER, OR WOULD THIS BE APPROPRIATE TIME FOR ANY COMMENTS? UH, MAYOR, UM, MAYOR OMAR, UH, COULD, HAS THE LATITUDE ONCE YOU CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, TO HAVE CONVER HAVE ADDITIONAL DISCUSSIONS.
SO IF YOU WANNA HOLD THE QUESTIONS AND THEN THAT'S HAPPY TO DO THAT, THAT'D FINE.
SO ASK QUESTIONS NOW, HOLD DISCUSSIONS FOR LATER.
UM, UM, DON, AT WHAT POINT, I KNOW WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING THE, UH, AQUATICS PLAN, THE COTTONWOOD POOL REMOVAL, UM, AND THE CANYON CREEK, UH, THAT WAS PRESENTED TO US AS A POSSIBLE SPRAY GROUND AS WELL, AND THAT, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THAT'S WHAT WAS ADOPTED AS PART OF THE, UM, AQUATICS PLAN.
AT WHAT POINT DID THAT MOVE INTO RENOVATE, UH, RENOVATION? SO, UM, AND, AND I WANT TO, UH, UM, ACKNOWLEDGE YVONNE AND, UM, UH, ALGO OUR DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION.
SO SHE'S HERE FOR, UM, ANY ADDITIONAL CONTEXT.
AND YVONNE, CHECK ME ON ALL THIS.
UM, THE, UH, COTTONWOOD PARK WAS ALWAYS IDENTIFIED IN, IN THE PLAN AS A, UH, SPRAY GROUND.
UM, THE COUNCIL DIRECTED US TO, UH, TO UPDATE THE AQUATICS MASTER PLAN, UH, RIGHT BEFORE, UH,
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IT WAS APPROVED TO INCLUDE CANYON CREEK AS AN OPTION, EITHER A FUTURE SPRAY GROUND OR A RENOVATION.AND THAT WAS, UH, YOUR DIRECTION PRIOR COUNSEL, BUT PRIOR COUNSEL'S DIRECTION TO PROVIDE FUTURE COUNSELS WITH THE LATITUDE.
SO YOU HAVE THE LATITUDE TO CHOOSE EITHER OF THOSE OPTIONS AND STILL BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE MASTER PLAN.
AND ORIGINALLY WE WERE LOOKING AT APOLLO, RIGHT? AND THAT WAS, THAT WAS NEXT, CORRECT.
WHAT WAS THE APOLLO, WHAT WAS THE ORIGINAL APOLLO? ARE YOU SPEAKING TO AQUATICS AND APOLLO? YES.
SO THAT WAS EITHER GONNA BE THE OUTDOOR, UM, LARGER POOL.
THAT'S THE ONLY QUESTION THERE HAVE.
ALRIGHT, IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS, WE'RE GONNA OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND SEE IF WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS.
OH, HOLD ON JUST ONE MOMENT, SANDY.
GREETINGS, MR. MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, MR. MAGNER.
MY NAME IS SANDY HANNEY AND I LIVE AT 6 3 7 WEST BELTLINE ROAD IN RICHARDSON.
I'M HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD POOLS.
I MAY BE WHISTLING IN THE WIND AT THIS POINT IN THE PROCESS, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ADVOCATE FOR THE SAVING OF THE COTTONWOOD POOL.
IT IS MY POOL AND THE PRIMARY OVERFLOW FOR THE, UH, HEIGHTS AQUATIC CENTER.
I HEAR YOU ARE CONSIDERING REPLACING IT WITH A, A SPLASH PAD OR A SPRAY GROUND.
I'M TOLD THAT POOLS ARE EXPENSIVE.
SO ARE MANY OTHER THINGS THAT WE PRIORITIZE AND I WOULD ASK US TO PRIORITIZE THIS RATHER THAN BUILDING AND REPEATEDLY ADDING NEW FEATURES TO THE HEIGHTS AQUATIC CENTER.
THERE ARE SEVEN THAT I KNOW OF AND THERE'S CONSTRUCTION HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.
LET'S KEEP THE POOLS WE HAVE OPEN.
THEY DON'T NEED TO BE ENTERTAINMENT CENTERS, THEY CAN JUST BE POOLS.
IF IT'S TOO EXPENSIVE, YOU COULD CLOSE THE DIVING POOL, UM, OR CONSIDER RAISING THE RATES OF THE POOLS, ALTHOUGH I KNOW THAT'S A FRACTION.
UM, BUT THEY WOULD BE CHEAP AT TWICE THE ADMISSION PRICE.
I'M TOLD THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING CLOSING COTTONWOOD POOL.
AND REPLACING IT WITH A SPLASH PAD, UM, WHICH ARE PLACES TO COOL DOWN FOR A FEW MINUTES.
IT'S NOT THE SAME AS SWIMMING AND THEY'RE ONLY APPEALING ON THE HOTTEST DAYS AND ONLY FOR KIDS.
YOU MIGHT AS WELL, UM, BUILD SOME FOUNTAINS IN PUBLIC PLACES TO SPLASH IN THOSE ONES THAT, YOU KNOW, JUMP UP AND DOWN.
AND THEY COULD BE PUBLIC FEATURES AS WELL AS RECREATION.
COTTONWOOD POOL MAY BE UNDERUTILIZED, BUT YOU MIGHT ASK WHY IT'S NEVER PROMOTED.
WHERE I HEAR PROMOTIONS FOR HEIGHTS AQUATIC CENTER ON A REGULAR BASIS, SUCH THAT IT'S OFTEN TOO CROWDED TO ENJOY.
COTTONWOOD IS A BEAUTIFUL POOL IN A BEAUTIFUL, UH, PARK.
I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW OFTEN I'VE HEARD, I HAD NO IDEA THIS WAS HERE.
I'VE PROMOTED TWO SEMI-PUBLIC PARTIES IN THE POOL, BUT I CAN'T SAVE IT ALL BY MYSELF.
COTTONWOOD POOL IS THE ONLY OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD POOL BESIDES HEIGHTS AQUATIC CENTER TO HAVE LAP LANES.
UM, WE NEED IT TO, I'D LIKE TO ALSO MAKE A PLUG FOR INDOOR POOLS.
SO OUR ONLY POOLS ARE OUTDOORS AND ARE ONLY OPEN TWO TO TWO AND A HALF MONTHS OUT OF THE YEAR.
I SPEND $200 A YEAR ON A PLANO RECREATION MEMBERSHIP, AND I, I MAY DRIVE 40 MINUTES ROUND TRIP ONLY TO FIND I CAN'T GET A LANE.
DALLAS POOLS ARE EVEN MORE UNAFFORDABLE.
WE HAVE AT LEAST TWO HIGH SCHOOLS WITH POOLS THAT HAVE, UH, MANY HOURS A DAY WITHOUT UTILIZATION.
IT SEEMS ONLY RIGHT FOR THEM TO MAKE THOSE PUBLICLY AVAILABLE IF WE CAN'T HAVE INDOOR POOLS OF OUR OWN.
SOME KIND OF RISD CITY PARTNERSHIP.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? NO FURTHER CARDS.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT HAD COMMENTS THEY'D LIKE TO SHARE? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
YES, MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHEN RIDER.
MAYOR, IF THERE'S NO OTHER, UH, COMMENTS, I'D MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ALRIGHT, WE'VE GOT A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHEN.
A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER DORIAN.
ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, COUNCIL MEMBER BARRIOS.
UM, THIS, THIS DISCUSSION AROUND THIS BOND OBVIOUSLY BRINGS UP SOME STUFF THAT I'VE SPOKEN PASSIONATELY ABOUT IN THE PAST, AND THAT WAS THE, THE CLOSING OF COTTONWOOD POOL AND POOLS IN GENERAL AND WHAT THEY MEAN, OUR CITY AND THE PEOPLE THAT USE THEM.
THE, UM, LOOKING AT THIS BOND, THE CLOSING THE COTTONWOOD POOL, THE, WHEN, EARLIER IN THE PROCESS WE HAD SEEN MUCH EARLIER WHEN WE'RE DISCUSSING THE AQUATICS PLAN, WE HAD SEEN, THE DATA SHOWED IT WAS ACTUALLY QUITE UTILIZED.
IT'S THE AREA THAT HAS THE HIGHEST CONCENTRATION OF CHILDREN IN THE CITY.
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UM, HAS ONE OF THE LOWEST INCOME MEDIANS IN THE CITY.CLOSING A POOL IN THIS AREA AND KEEPING IN OTHER AREAS I DO NOT FEEL IS JUST, I DO NOT FEEL IT'S RIGHT.
UM, THEY HAD COME TO US WITH PART OF THE PLAN OF, OF REDOING APOLLO.
WE'RE PUTTING 11 MILLION OF THE BOND INTO ANOTHER PART OF THE CITY, INCLUDING A BRIDGE THAT WAS NOT PART OF THE RECOMMENDATION.
GIVEN ALL THAT I AM, I'VE GOT MAJOR CONCERNS, PARTICULARLY THE PARKS PIECE OF THIS, OF THIS BOND.
AND, UH, WHILE I LOVE OUR PARKS AND, UH, WE HAVE AN AMAZING PARKS TEAM AND IT, THIS IS NOT A COMMENT AGAINST ANY OF THEM.
I FEEL THAT WE AS A COUNCIL JUST DID NOT APPLY THIS JUSTLY AND EVENLY ACROSS THE CITY.
SO I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THIS BOND.
CORAN COUNCIL MEMBER CORCORAN.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, ANTICIPATING THOSE COMMENTS, I WANTED TO OFFER JUST THE, THE COUNTERPOINT AS WELL THAT THERE WERE THREE OPTIONS IN THE PLAN AND THIS WAS, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE WERE, THERE WERE THREE OPTIONS IN THE PLAN.
THIS WAS ONE OF THOSE THREE OPTIONS.
BUT WHEN THE PARKS COMMISSION WAS PRESENTED WITH THIS BOND PROGRAM, UNANIMOUS UNANIMOUSLY, INCLUDING MEMBERS FROM PLACE THREE ON THE PARKS COMMISSION, AGREED THAT THIS WAS THE BEST OPTION TO GO FORWARD WITH.
UM, AND THAT THE SAME PLAN HAS THE CREATION OF AN AQUATIC CENTER DOWN THE LINE, WHICH SHOULD ABSORB A LOT OF THE TRAFFIC THAT WOULD BE THERE WITH COTTONWOOD.
AND I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T BRING UP THE PARKS COMMISSION'S DISCUSSION DELIBERATION REGARDING THIS DECISION.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, UM, I THINK IT'D BE HELPFUL TO HAVE SOMEONE, UH, WEIGH IN ON WHETHER OR NOT YOU'D LIKE US TO DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER TO PREPARE FOR THE ELECTION.
UH, MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHIN RIDER, IS THAT IN THE FORM OF A MOTION OR JUST A, IN FORM OF A MOTION? UH, YES SIR.
IF YOU COULD JUST, IS IT APPROPRIATE YOU COULD, CAN MOVE? WHAT IS THE VOTE ON TO MOVE FORWARD WITH, UH, PREPARING FOR THE ELECTION?
UH, SO ALL I NEED YOU TO DO IS JUST, UH, DIRECT ME TO PREPARE RESOLUTION FOR THE FEBRUARY 9TH MEETING.
YOU'LL, WHEN YOU VOTE ON FEBRUARY 9TH, THAT WILL BE THE ACTION THAT WILL ACTUALLY CALL THE ELECTION FOR MAY 2ND.
THEN I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT OUR CITY MANAGER TO PUT FORTH THE RESOLUTION TO, UH, FOR THE 2026 BOND PROGRAM THAT FOR FEBRUARY 9TH, AT WHICH TIME THE BOND PROGRAM WILL BE VOTED ON.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHIN RIDER, A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER AINE.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS MOTION? ALRIGHT, ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[9. PUBLIC HEARING, ZONING FILE ZF 25-20, AND CONSIDER ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF RICHARDSON, TEXAS, AMENDING THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE AND ZONING MAP TO GRANT A SPECIAL PERMIT FOR A CHILDCARE CENTER LOCATED AT 500 N. COIT ROAD, AND CURRENTLY ZONED LR-M(1) LOCAL RETAIL.]
ALRIGHT, WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER NINE, WHICH IS A PUBLIC HEARING ZONING FILE 25 DASH 20 AND CONSIDER ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE TO GRANT A SPECIAL PERMIT FOR A CHILDCARE CENTER LOCATED AT 500 NORTH COY ROAD.MR. MAGNER, UH, THANK YOU MAYOR.
UH, OUR SENIOR PLANNER, DEREK PETERS, IS GONNA LEAD THIS BRIEFING.
I WANNA ACKNOWLEDGE, UH, TINA FERGUS, UH, AND ANDREW BAU, DIRECTOR AND ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
UH, UM, DEREK, BEFORE I TURN OVER TO YOU, MAYOR, I'D, I'D LIKE TO MAKE JUST A, A SLIGHT CORRECTION, UH, READING THE COMMENTS EARLIER.
I, UM, ATTRIBUTED A, UM, A, UH, FOUR POSITION FOR MS, UH, CORTEZ MATHIS TO THIS ZONING FILE.
IT'S ACTUALLY NEUTRAL AND SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CORRECTION BEFORE THE CASE BEGAN.
UH, JUST TO GO ON RECORD THERE.
ZONING FILE 25 20 FOR THE PROPERTY F LOCATED AT 500 NORTH NORTH COY ROAD.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS ZONED LOCAL RETAIL ONE.
IT IS SURROUNDED BY RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL USES TO ITS NORTHWEST AND SOUTH.
THIS IS LOCATED WITHIN A LARGER SHOPPING CENTER ALONG COY ROAD.
IT IS SET BACK FROM KOYT ROAD.
IT DOES NOT HAVE FRONTAGE ON COY ROAD.
IT IS CONNECTED VIA MUTUAL ACCESS EASEMENTS.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THE SITE DOES HAVE SOME FRONTAGE ON NORTHGATE DRIVE TO ITS NORTHEAST.
AND THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL PERMIT FOR A CHILDCARE CENTER.
THIS IS A BETTER VIEW OF AN AERIAL SHOT TAKEN, UH, FROM A BROADER VIEW WHERE YOU SEE THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THAT LARGER SHOPPING CENTER ON COY ROAD.
ALSO TO THE EAST OF THE SHOPPING CENTER IS A THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD ALONG WITH NORTH LAKE AND THE, UM, RESIDENCES TO THE EAST.
THAT ROW OF HOMES IS SEPARATED FROM THE SHOPPING CENTER BY A 20 FOOT WIDE DRAINAGE CULVERT BETWEEN THE COMMERCIAL SHOPPING CENTER AND THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
THIS BUILDING WAS FIRST, UH, CONSTRUCTED IN 1981 AND IT HAS BEEN USED FOR VARIOUS MEDICAL AND ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE USES.
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THAT WAS THE FRONT AND THE SIDE.AND THEN HERE'S A PHOTO OF ANOTHER SIDE OF THE BUILDING AS WELL AS THE REAR OF THE BUILDING WHERE THERE IS AN ENCLOSED COURTYARD IN THE REAR.
SO THE SITE IS ONE ACRES AND THE BUILDING IS 12,400 SQUARE FEET.
THIS IS A PROPOSED CHILDCARE CENTER TO ACCOMMODATE UP TO 220 STUDENTS FROM AGES, INFANTS TO CHILDREN, SIX YEARS OLD AND UP AND SIX YEARS OLD AT MAXIMUM ENROLLMENT.
AS I MENTIONED, 220 STUDENTS ARE ANTICIPATED AND THAT WOULD BE SUPPORTED BY 27 TEACHERS AND STAFF ON SITE.
THERE WILL BE A PLAYGROUND ON SITE THAT'S SHOWN IN GREEN HERE.
THAT PLAYGROUND WILL BE 7,700 SQUARE FEET.
SO THAT'S GOING TO INCORPORATE THAT COURTYARD IN THE REAR THAT I SHOWED YOU EARLIER, AND THEN BE EXPANDED TOWARDS THE NORTHEAST OF THE SITE.
SO THAT WILL MEET THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS FOR OUTDOOR PLAY AREA PER THE CITY CODE AND THE STATE REQUIREMENTS.
AND THAT PLAYGROUND SURFACE WILL BE COMPRISED OF 80% TURF COVER AND 20% SOFT COVER.
AND IT WILL BE ENCLOSED BY A SIX FOOT TALL WROUGHT IRON FENCE.
A CHILDCARE CENTER OF THIS SIZE REQUIRES 42 PARKING SPACES ON SITE AND 46 WILL BE PROVIDED.
HERE'S THE TRAFFIC CIRCULATION PLAN.
THE APPLICANT DID PROVIDE A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS AND A TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT INCLUDED THIS TRAFFIC CIRCULATION PLAN.
HOURS OF OPERATION FOR THE SITE ARE 7:00 AM TO 6:00 PM AND THEY WILL PROVIDE FLEXIBLE ARRIVAL AND DEPARTURE TIMES FOR THEIR STUDENTS.
THE, UH, MAIN AND PRIMARY ARRIVAL TIMES WILL BE BETWEEN SEVEN AND 10:00 AM AND DROP OFF AND PICKUP TIMES WILL BE BETWEEN FOUR AND 6:00 PM SO THIS, UH, MAP IS KIND OF BUSY.
SO I'M GONNA ILLUSTRATE HERE WITH MY CURSOR, UH, THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN HERE.
PARENTS WILL BE DIRECTED TO ENTER THE SITE AT ROUND ROCK AND COY ROAD WHERE THERE'S A SIGNALIZE INTERSECTION.
THEY'LL FOLLOW THROUGH THIS SHOPPING CENTER TO THE NORTH OF THE BUILDING AND THEY WILL PARK AND DROP OFF THEIR STUDENT BY ESCORTING THEM INTO AND OUT OF THE BUILDING.
THEY WILL THEN BE DIRECTED TO CIRCLE BACK DOWN SOUTH AND PROCEED TO EXIT THE SITE ON DECOY ROAD AT THAT SAME INTERSECTION.
DEREK, JUST A QUICK, IS THAT, CAN YOU GO BACK REAL QUICK? IS THAT TO MEAN EXITING TRAFFIC, NOT EXISTING TRAFFIC BECAUSE THERE IS NO TRAFFIC? CORRECT.
THAT SHOULD BE EXITING TRAFFIC.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE JUST SO IN CASE THERE'S ANYONE ASK THAT QUESTION.
THIS IS, UM, DEMONSTRATING THE DESIGNATED PARENT PATH FOR GOTCHA.
UM, ALSO I'LL SHOW YOU UP HERE DURING THOSE PICKUP AND DROP OFF TIMES, THE STAFF FROM THE SCHOOL WILL IMPLEMENT THIS, UH, BARRIER, A TEMPORARY BARRIER MADE OF TRAFFIC CONES AND A NO RIGHT TURN SIGN DURING PICKUP AND DROP OFF TIMES.
THAT WAY PARENTS WILL BE DETERRED FROM EXITING THE SITE ONTO THIS NORTH LAKE DRIVE AND INTO THAT LOCAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
INSTEAD, THEY WILL BE DIRECTED BACK DOWN TO COT ROAD SO THAT SOUTHERN AND WESTBOUND AISLE WILL BE BLOCKED OFF BY THE ORANGE CONES.
THE NORTHERN AISLE WILL REMAIN OPEN, SO TRAFFIC COMING INTO THE SHOPPING CENTER WILL, UH, BE FREE TO DO SO.
OVERALL, THIS PLAN WAS DESIGNED TO, UH, MAINTAIN TRAFFIC AND CIRCULATION ON SITE AND DETER PARENTS FROM EXITING INTO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE NORTHEAST.
UM, I'LL ALSO ALSO MENTION HERE THAT SHOULD ADDITIONAL MITIGATION METHODS BE NEEDED, IF, UM, THERE ARE IMPACTS TO OTHER PROPERTIES OR OR OTHER RESIDENCES, THE OPERATOR OF THE DAYCARE SHALL IMPLEMENT ADDITIONAL MITIGATION METHODS BY WORKING WITH THE CITY'S TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY TEAM.
THE ENVISION RICHARDSON FUTURE LAND USE PLAN IS DESIGNATED THIS AS PART OF A COMM COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL PLACE TYPE AND INSTITUTIONAL USES ARE CONSIDERED AS A, UH, ACCEPTABLE USE IN THAT PLACE TYPE.
HERE ARE THE CONDITIONS OF THE SPECIAL PERMIT.
THESE ARE THE STANDARD CONDITIONS YOU SEE HERE.
THE PERMIT WILL BE LIMITED TO WILL BRAY CHILD CARE ACADEMY AS THE SOLE OPERATOR.
THE CENTER WILL BE LIMITED TO 220 STUDENTS MAXIMUM.
THOSE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS STUDIES WE RECEIVED THAT INFORM THE TRAFFIC CIRCULATION PLAN ASSUMED A MAXIMUM OF 220 STUDENTS.
UH, SO THAT WILL BE, UH, ONE CONDITION.
AND IN ADDITION, UM, AS I MENTIONED RELATED TO THE TRAFFIC MITIGATION PLAN, THAT IF THERE ARE, UM, ADDITIONAL OR REVISIONS TO THE MITIGATION METHODS THAT THE APP, THE APPLICANT AND THE OPERATOR CAN WORK WITH THE CITY TO RESOLVE THOSE ISSUES AND IMPROVE THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN.
THE CITY RECEIVED ONE PUBLIC COMMENT IN OPPOSITION OF THE REQUEST AND THAT WAS INCLUDED IN YOUR STAFF REPORT.
AND THAT HAS CITED THAT CITED ISSUES WITH EXISTING TRAFFIC AND CONCERN ABOUT FUTURE TRAFFIC AT THE SITE.
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AND AS MR. MAGNER MENTIONED, THERE WAS ANOTHER COMMENT PLACED IN FRONT OF YOU WITH NEUTRAL TO THE REQUEST.THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO APPROVE THIS REQUEST AND THE CITY COUNCIL ACTION.
UM, SHOULD YOU TAKE ACTION TONIGHT, YOU SHOULD APPROVE THE ZONING FILE AS WELL AS THE ORDINANCE AS PRESENTED WITH CONDITIONS THAT WERE PRESENTED OR AMENDED CONDITIONS OR YOU MAY DENY THE REQUEST.
AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
UH, WHEN LOOKING AT THE TRAFFIC PATTERN AND SORT OF THE, THE CONES AND THE SIGN, UH, WHAT CITY DEPARTMENT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ENFORCEMENT OF THAT? SO THAT IS A TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
AND SO THESE ARE QUESTIONS THAT I JUST KNOW THAT RESIDENTS WILL BE ASKING AND, AND I HAVE SOME OF THESE AS WELL.
UH, YOU KNOW, HOW WILL IT BE ENFORCED OR HOW WOULD TRAFFIC ENFORCE THIS PROVISION? IF WE ARE MADE AWARE OF ISSUES WITH TRAFFIC ON THE SITE, THEN WE WILL WORK DIRECTLY WITH THE OPERATOR AND WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL.
UH, WE DO HAVE A SOLID HISTORY OF WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS MM-HMM
UM, WHEN THERE ARE IMPACTS TO THE, THE SURROUNDING AREAS.
SO KNOWING THAT SOME OF THE RESIDENTS RIGHT OFF NORTH LAKE ARE PROBABLY GONNA BE WATCHING THIS LIKE A HAWK IF IT PASSES, UH, WHO WOULD THEY REACH OUT TO IF THEY FEEL OR THEY BELIEVE THAT THIS TRAFFIC SORT OF THIS TRAFFIC MITIGATION PATTERN ISN'T BEING ENFORCED OR ISN'T BEING, UM, YOU KNOW, WORKED ON BY THE BUSINESS.
SO THEY COULD CONTACT OUR TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY DEPARTMENT OR THEY CAN ALSO CONTACT MY OFFICE AND WE'RE HAPPY TO WORK WITH THEM AND, AND WITH OUR TRANSPORTATION MOBILITY TEAM.
AND THEN JUST FOR THE RECORD, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPENS AND SAY, UH, A LOT OF THE PARENTS, IF THEY END UP JUST IGNORING THE CONES IN THE SIGN AND BLAZE RIGHT THROUGH OFF NORTH LAKE OR THE CONES IN THE SIGN AREN'T PUT OUT AT ALL, I MEAN, WHO BEARS THE CONSEQUENCE FOR SORT OF BREAKING THE PATTERN THAT'S BEEN ESTABLISHED HERE? AND THEN WHAT IS THAT CONSEQUENCE? SO WE WOULD WORK VERY DILIGENTLY WITH A PROPERTY OWNER.
I GUESS AN ULTIMATE CONSEQUENCE COULD BE RECENSION OF THE SPECIAL PERMIT MM-HMM
IF IT GOT TO A SITUATION WHERE IT WAS THAT DETRIMENTAL TO THE AREA.
SO IF IT JUST KEEPS RECURRING, LIKE WITH A LOT OF SPECIAL PERMITS MM-HMM
UM, WE COULD JUST CALL IT BACK UP AND POTENTIALLY RESCIND IT, RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT.
BECAUSE IT IS A ZONING ACTION.
YEAH, I THINK TINA UH, MADE A GOOD POINT THIS EARLIER TODAY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS CODIFIED IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE, RIGHT? SO THIS IS A VERY LEGITIMATE REASON.
UH, MAYBE MUCH MORE SO THAN SOME OF THE REASONS WE TALK ABOUT ACTUALLY.
UH, TO BE ABLE TO CALL THIS CASE BACK UP.
UM, IF THERE WAS CONTINUED, UM, IF THERE WAS CONTINUED, UM, UM, VIOLATION OF THAT MM-HMM
AND FOR THAT, I MEAN EVEN MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL, IF THEY GET ENOUGH COMPLAINTS ABOUT THIS COULD COME TOGETHER AND CALL THIS BACK UP, RIGHT? UH, ABSOLUTELY.
THE COUNCIL, THE COUNCIL CAN WITH THE MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL CAN CALL A SPECIAL PERMIT AT ANY TIME THEY DEEM APPROPRIATE.
THANK YOU GUYS FOR THE ANSWERS.
TO CLARIFY THE CONES, THEY WILL BE REQUIRED TO HAVE A STAFFER THERE ALONG WITH THE CONES.
IS THAT DROP OFF AND PICKUP? NO, THAT IS NOT CORRECT.
SO A STAFFER'S GONNA PUT IT OUT.
THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO HAVE A STAFFER, IT'S JUST RIGHT.
THEY'RE REQUIRED TO PUT THE CONES OUT.
THIS SHOWS THE TRAFFIC GOING NORTH, MAKING A RIGHT EAST IN FRONT OF THE CENTER WHERE THEIR PURPLE LITTLE BURST IS.
THAT'S THE LOADING ZONE, I'M ASSUMING.
THEN IT GOES AROUND THE CORNER OF THAT NORTHERN MOST HIGHLIGHTED AND IT COMES BACK SOUTH.
WHAT'S THE THINKING BEHIND THAT VERSUS GOING SOUTH ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE TWO BUILDINGS AND UM, LIKE CAN YOU KIND OF EXPLAIN TO BU JUST KIND OF THINKING BEHIND THAT VERSUS JUST SHOOTING IT? BECAUSE IF YOU SHOOT IT SOUTH, ONE MAY SAY, WELL, THEY DON'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO NORTH 'CAUSE YOU COULD JUST KIND OF BLOCK IT OFF THERE WITHOUT BLOCKING OFF, UH, THAT KIND OF ENTRANCE OF NORTH LAKE.
'CAUSE I ASSUME THAT AS WE REDIRECT IT AND BECOMES EXITING TRAFFIC, RIGHT WHERE THE ORANGE BECOMES GREEN NOW YOU'RE GONNA HAVE LINES LEAVING.
IF YOU'RE COMING WEST AND NORTHLAKE IT'S GONNA BE KIND OF GONNA BE DIFFICULT TO ENTER.
SO WHY WOULDN'T WE JUST BLOCK IT OFF WHERE THAT MOST NORTHERN YELLOW HIGHLIGHTED PARKING AREA IS AND JUST SAY THAT'S THE BLOCK OFF AND TAKE TRAFFIC SOUTH AROUND THE BUILDINGS.
THE PRIMARY ENTRANCE WILL BE ON THE NORTH OF THE BUILDING IN THAT PURPLE BURST.
SO THE IDEA IS TO HAVE THE PARENTS PARK HERE AND ESCORT THEIR CHILDREN IN.
THERE'S MORE PARKING ON THIS SIDE OF THE BUILDING, LESS ON THE, UH, BOTTOM
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HALF OF THIS, LESS ON THEIR SITE.IF I'M, IF I'M UNDERSTANDING YOUR CORRECTION, YOUR QUESTION THOUGH, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AFTER DIRECTION THE PARENTS DROP OFF, THEN GO EAST AND THEN IMMEDIATELY SOUTH, CORRECT.
THE PLAY AREA, THEY'RE CONVERTING THAT AREA BACK IN THERE TO THE PLAYGROUND AREA.
IF DEREK, IF YOU COULD GO BACK TO THE SLIDE THAT SHOWS THE SITE LAYOUT.
SO THERE'S REALLY NOT ANY SPACE TO DIRECT IT.
SO THEY WERE TRYING TO KEEP THE TRAFFIC IN THE FRONT AND, AND MOVING IT, ROUNDING IT BACK TOWARDS THE WEST AND SENDING BASICALLY PEOPLE, UM, A, A ROUTE THAT THEY WOULD KNOW BECAUSE IF THEY'RE ENTERING THIS HEIGHT, THAT DIRECTION, THEN THEY WOULD LEAVE GOING THAT SAME DIRECTION.
SO WE'RE KEEPING THE, WE'RE KEEPING THE TRAFFIC INSIDE THE OVERALL RETAIL SHOPPING CENTER, UM, BOTH IN THE MORNING AND THE AFTERNOON.
AND WHAT ARE THE AGES OF KIDS? INFANTS TO SIX YEARS OLD.
I, I JUST WANT TO TAG ALONG WITH, UH, COUNCILMAN, UH, COCHRAN AND, AND BARRIOS.
THE, UH, THE ONE THING I DID NOTICE, UH, BACK OVER TO THE TRAFFIC FLOW IS THE OPERATIONAL HOURS ARE FROM 7:00 AM TO 6:00 PM UH, DROP OFF IS FOR THREE HOURS FROM SEVEN TO 10 OUT OF THE 11 HOURS.
IS THAT SEEMS IS THAT UNUSUAL GENERALLY OR IS THREE HOURS A A GENERAL DROP OFF TIME? IT SAYS 7:00 AM TO 10:00 AM IT'S STAGGERED.
WE'RE FINDING THE DAYCARES OFFER STAGGERED, FLEXIBLE TIMES.
FOR THEIR, FOR THEIR PARENTS, BUT THEY EXPECT THE MAJORITY OF THEM TO BE IN BY 10:00 AM SO THERE'LL BE TRAFFIC A MINIMUM OF FOR APPROXIMATELY THREE HOURS.
UM, IT, IT MAY BE FLOWING THROUGH.
WHERE, OR IF, IF, IF THEY DO GET BACKED UP, ARE THEY JUST GOING TO PULL OVER TO THE PARKING LOT AREA AS A BACKUP? IF THEY DO GET BACKED UP, THEY CAN PARK IN THE OTHER PARKING SPACES TO ESCORT THEIR CHILDREN IN, UM, IS AN OPTION SINCE THERE IS EXCESS PARKING OUT HERE.
AND, AND I THINK IT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER, AND I JUST WANNA CLARIFY, IS THERE GONNA BE SOMEONE MONITORING THAT DURING THE TIME? NO, THEY WILL NOT.
THEY'LL BE CONES AND THEY'LL JUST FIGURE OUT HOW TO DROP OFF.
IS IS IT POTENTIALLY, UH, FEASIBLE TO HAVE SOMEONE OUT THERE THAT COULD GUIDE THEM OR DOES THAT MAKE, YOU MAY WANNA ASK THE APPLICANT? YEAH.
THAT MIGHT BE A BETTER QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
UH, QUESTION, UH, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THIS IS SPECIAL MAR UH, WHAT ELSE THE PROPERTY COULD HANDLE, LIKE WHAT KIND OF BUSINESS THEY COULD BE THERE WITHOUT EVEN COMING TO THE COUNCIL.
CAN YOU GIMME SOME IDEA WHAT ARE THE BUSINESS THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED WITHOUT COMING TO THE COUNCIL? YEAH, IT ALLOWS RETAIL, IT ALLOWS RESTAURANT IN THE SONY DISTRICT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS HAD MUCH LUCK, UM, FILLING THIS BUILDING WITH A TENANT THAT'S RETAIL OR RESTAURANT.
IT'S BEEN, IT'S PRETTY FAR SET BACK FROM COY ROAD, BUT OFFICES ARE ALLOWED BY RIOT MEDICAL OFFICES AS WELL.
SO THOSE TYPE OF COMMERCIAL USES, UH, I THINK MAYBE DEREK OR, OR TINA, THE SPIRIT OF THE QUESTION I THINK MIGHT BE, IS THIS THE HEAVIEST TRAFFIC USE THAT COULD BE, UH, PUT THERE BY, RIGHT MM-HMM
SO THERE ARE A VARIETY OF RETAIL USES THAT ARE ALLOWED, BUT YOU COULD HAVE A RESTAURANT USE IF A RESTAURANT WANTED TO LOCATE HERE.
SO THAT POTENTIALLY COULD HAVE AN INCREASE IN TRAFFIC ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
UM, DEPENDING UPON HOURS OF SERVICE, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY MORE LUNCHTIME, MIDDAY, AND THEN ALSO IN THE EVENING AND THEN ON THE WEEKENDS.
SO I'M JUST LOOKING AT A, A LIST OF PERMITTED USES THAT ARE ALLOWED IN THIS ZONING DISTRICT.
I MEAN, THERE'S FI FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS, BUT QUITE A FEW, UM, RETAIL SERVICE.
UM, YOU COULD HAVE A DEPARTMENT STORE.
SO I MEAN, ANY RETAILER THAT HAS, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD HAVE A, A GROCERY POTENTIALLY LOCATE IN THIS AREA AND OR IN THIS PARTICULAR, UM, BUILDING AND, AND HAVE THE TRAFFIC ASSOCIATED WITH THIS.
SO THE, THE DAYCARE TRAFFIC, THE LIMITATION OF THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS WOULD LIKELY BE LESS COMPARED TO SEVERAL OF THE RETAIL USES THAT ARE ALLOWED IN THIS CURRENT ZONING DISTRICT.
SO IF MY UNDERSTANDING IS CORRECT THAT SOMEONE COULD HAVE NIGHTCLUB OR RESTAURANTS THERE AND THEY, THEY COULD HAVE A RESTAURANT, UM, IN TERMS OF WHETHER OR NOT IT COULD BE A, A NIGHTCLUB OPERATION, I'D HAVE TO LOOK TO SEE WHAT OUR ALCOHOL REGULATIONS ARE, UM, AS IT REALLY SAT, UNLESS YOU KNOW THAT OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD.
WELL, NO, I, I THINK IT COULD BE A RESTAURANT THAT SERVES ALCOHOL THAT STAYS OPEN TO, TO MIDNIGHT OR 2:00 AM FOR INSTANCE.
AND SO I MEAN, IT IT IT IT'S A VARIATION ON, UM, SEVERAL DIFFERENT KIND OF RESTAURANT USES THAT COULD BE HERE.
BUT YEAH, IT COULD ABSOLUTELY SERVE ALCOHOL.
AND UH, IN THOSE CASES, CONSOLUTE NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT THE TRAFFIC, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.
BECAUSE THE USES ARE ALLOWED BY RIGHT.
SO THEY COULD EASILY GO TO THE OTHER ROAD RESIDENTIAL ROAD ANYTIME WITHOUT ANY RESTRICTION.
AND UH, OKAY, THANKS FOR THE CLARIFICATION.
AND HOW ABOUT THE, IS THERE ANY FIRE LANE THERE AROUND THE BUILDING? I DON'T SEE THE SITE PLAN FOR SOME REASON OR MAYBE I CAN SEE IT CLEARLY.
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MUTUAL ACCESS EASEMENTS ARE FIRE LANES AS WELL.IS THERE ANY RESTRICTION DROPPING OFF THROUGH THE FIRE LANES? I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, I MEAN, IS I GUESS YOU GUYS LOOK THOSE THINGS THAT RESTRICTION FIRE LANE DROPS OFF? WE DO.
I MEAN, THERE'S NO RESTRICTION IN THIS CASE.
IT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING IN WORKING WITH THE OPERATOR, THEY REQUIRE PARENTS TO PARK.
SO THE PEOPLE ARE NOT GONNA BE QUEUED UP NECESSARILY IN THE DRIVE BY LANE IF THAT ONE WAS MARKED AS A FIRE LANE.
SO THEY REQUIRE THEIR PARENTS TO PARK AND, AND THE APPLICANT CAN ADDRESS THIS MORE FOR COUNSEL, BUT THEY REQUIRE THEIR PARENTS TO PARK AND ESCORT THEIR CHILDREN INTO THE BUILDING.
SO IT'S, IT'S UNLIKE LIKE A A LIKE A TYPICAL ELEMENTARY OR MIDDLE SCHOOL THAT, UM, YOU MIGHT'VE SEEN WHERE YOU HAVE PARENTS THAT ARE QUEUED UP IN A FIRE LANE WHERE, UM, WHERE THEIR KIDS ARE OLD ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO GET IN AND OUT OF THE, THE VEHICLE AND, UM, AT THOSE SITES.
SO IN THIS CASE, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE, THE, THE TRAFFIC ROUTING THROUGH THE FIRE LANE IS NOT UNCOMMON.
THAT'S TYPICAL OF, UM, TYPICAL MULTI-TENANT, UM, SHOPPING CENTERS THAT YOU SEE WHERE WE HAVE TRAFFIC TRAVERSING ACROSS OUR FIRE LANE.
SO THIS WOULD BE NO DIFFERENT THAN THAT.
IF THE, IF THE MARKINGS ON THE GROUND TODAY ARE ACCURATE, THE RIGHT, THE ORANGE RIGHT TURN WHERE YOU SEE THE, THE YELLOW SPOTS WHERE THERE'LL BE PARKING TO DROP THE, THAT IS NOT A FIRE LANE, BUT THE LANE TO THE NORTH OF IT IS.
SO THAT, THAT FIRST RIGHT, THE TWO ORANGE ARROWS, UM, IS NOT CURRENTLY MARKED AS A FIRE LANE, SO I WOULD ASSUME IT'S CORRECT.
UH, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION'S SAKE, I THINK AT THE BEGINNING THERE WAS A DISCUSSION OF ENVISION RICHARDSON HAVING THIS, UH, CAN YOU GIMME THAT, UH, TERMINOLOGY AGAIN IN TERMS OF WHAT WAS ENVISIONED FOR THIS AREA? SO IT'S CALLED COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL PLACE TYPE, AND THEN WITHIN THAT PLACE TYPE OF THE RECOMMENDED USES INSTITUTIONAL IS INCLUDED.
AND THIS WOULD FALL UNDER THAT CATEGORY, RIGHT? AND SO ONE OF THE, UH, WORK ITEMS WE HAVE COMING IN THE COMING WEEKS OR MONTHS IS TO, UH, TRY AND STREAMLINE OUR ZONING TO ACTUALLY FIT ENVISION RICHARDSON AND OTHER THOUGHTS LIKE THAT, WHICH MEANS THAT SOMETHING LIKE THIS WOULD'VE NOT EVEN COME TO US, UH, UH, BECAUSE IT IS, IT WOULD BE ALLOWED IN THAT PARTICULAR SCENARIO AS WELL.
SO, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, UH, BARRIOS.
I KNOW WHEN, WHEN WE, WHEN WE NOTIFY NEIGHBORS, DO WE NOTIFY, LIKE IN THIS SHOPPING CENTER, I'M GUESSING IT'S ALL OWNED BY ONE PERSON OR ONE FIRM.
UM, DO WE NOTIFY THE OWNERS OF THE INDIVIDUAL BUSINESSES THERE? BECAUSE I KNOW LIKE THAT'S THE OLD JUST TO THE SOUTH OF, THAT'S THE OLD WALMART, WHICH NOW HAS, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL RESTAURANTS.
I THINK THERE'S LIKE A, I DUNNO, RESTAURANT SUPPLY I THINK IS WHAT'S THERE NOW.
UM, DO WE, DO WE NOTIFY THE BUSINESS OWNERS OR JUST THE PROPERTY OWNERS? NO, WE JUST NOTIFY THE PROPERTY OWNERS ON THE TAX ROLL.
IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE STATE LAW.
THE APPLICANT'S STATEMENT DOES, HOWEVER, NOTE THAT, UM, THAT THEY DID REACH OUT TO, UM, THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OWNERS AT THE SIX DIFFERENT COMMERCIAL ADDRESSES WHO ALL VO VOICE SUPPORT FOR THE PROJECT.
IN ADDITION, THEY ALSO CONDUCTED OUTREACH WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, HOAI.
UH, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, SO LOVE TO SEE IF WE CAN HAVE THE PERHAPS THE APPLICANT COME UP.
UH, I'M BUCK WHEELER WITH SHOP DEVELOPMENT 6 9 1 7 RED START LANE, DALLAS, TEXAS 7 5 2 1 4.
UM, IF IT'S ALL RIGHT, I'D LIKE TO JUST KIND OF START OFF WITH A QUICK, UH, EXPLANATION OF KIND OF WHY WE'RE SO EXCITED ABOUT THIS USE HERE.
THIS, UH, WILLE BRAY ACADEMY IS A VERY WELL ESTABLISHED, UH, PRESCHOOL DAYCARE AS WELL AS KIND OF A MONTESSORI SCHOOL COMPONENT.
AND SO THEY'VE GOT 42 LOCATIONS IN CANADA AND SIX IN THE UNITED STATES.
AND SO THEY'RE EMERGING INTO TEXAS RIGHT NOW.
AND WHAT WE DO AT SHOP DEVELOPMENT IS WE DO RETAIL, UH, REAL ESTATE EIGHT DAYS A WEEK.
AND THESE CHILDCARE USES ARE A VERY HIGH BARRIER TO ENTRY AND VERY DIFFICULT TO PROCURE BECAUSE OF, THEY REQUIRE PER THEIR LICENSE, THEY REQUIRE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF OUTDOOR PLAYGROUND AREA KIND OF PER STUDENT.
AND SO IT MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT CODES AND PARKING REQUIREMENTS AND CERTAIN RATIOS YOU HAVE TO MAINTAIN AS WELL AS, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A LAW OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT ANY CHILD DAYCARE USE IS NOT GONNA AGREE TO A PLAYGROUND AREA BEING SEGREGATED FROM THE BUILDING WHERE THEY HAVE TO WALK THEIR STUDENTS ACROSS A FIRE LANE AND TRAFFIC ISSUES.
AND IT'S TOO MUCH LIABILITY IF NOT EVEN POSSIBLE FOR THEM TO DO.
AND SO THIS IS A VERY UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY FOR US, UM, BECAUSE IT HAS THIS, RIGHT NOW IT'S GOT KIND OF THAT BOX CULVERT, UH, DRAINAGE
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AREA TO THE RIGHT AND IT'S ALREADY GOT A VERY HIGH, UH, WALL RIGHT THERE FOR KIND OF SOUNDPROOFING AND THERE'S EXTRA DISTANCE BECAUSE OF THAT DRAINAGE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ADJACENT.AND, UH, THERE IS AMPLE PARKING HERE.
UH, RIGHT NOW WE'RE, WE'RE ABLE TO LOSE SOME OF THE PARKING SPACES AND STILL MAINTAIN EXCESS PARKING STALLS PER CODE, BUT EXPAND THAT PLAYGROUND AREA TO REALLY GENERATE SOMETHING, UH, THAT'S OFFERED TO THE STUDENTS AND THE KIDS THAT'S ABOVE WHAT EVEN THEIR LICENSE REQUIRES.
AND SO WE, WE ACQUIRED NOT EVERYTHING IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THIS, BUT MOST OF THE SOUTHEAST QUADRANT PROBABLY A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, AND WE BOUGHT IT, UH, WITH THE ULTIMATE VISION OF LEASING IT AND REDEVELOPING IT TO, UH, BETTER USES THAT KIND OF BETTER SUPPORT THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THIS BUILDING IN PARTICULAR IS A LITTLE BIT SEGREGATED FROM THE REST OF OUR HOLDINGS AT THE INTERSECTION, BUT WHEN WE FIRST ACQUIRED THIS, THERE WAS, IT'S ABOUT 12,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING AND ABOUT 4,000 SQUARE FEET OF IT WAS A DIALYSIS CENTER AND THE REST OF IT WAS VACANT.
UH, AND SO, AND AT LEAST MY PERCEPTION, UH, AND MY BELIEFS, THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY CATER TO THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD AS BEST AS IT CAN.
UH, AND WE BELIEVE THAT, UH, THIS USE ABSOLUTELY DOES.
THIS IS A, A YOUNG NEIGHBORHOOD, LOTS OF FAMILIES, LOTS OF KIDS, AND UH, AND I THINK THIS IS ABSOLUTELY A USE THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WILL UTILIZE, UH, AND EMBRACE.
AND SO I THINK KIND OF TO THE DISCUSSION AND POINTS EARLIER IS KIND OF PER ZONING RIGHTS.
THIS IS ZONED IN A WAY TO WHERE IT CAN BE RESTAURANT, IT CAN BE RETAIL, IT CAN BE WHAT HAVE YOU.
THAT'S PROBABLY A LOT MORE, UM, UH, STRAINING ON THE TRAFFIC IMPACT WHAT'S THERE TODAY WITHOUT REQUIRING A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.
THIS BUILDING AND THE REAL ESTATE IT'S ON PRESENTS ITS OWN CHALLENGES TO WHERE THE TYPE OF QUALITY FOR THOSE USES THAT YOU'RE GONNA ATTRACT FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY THE BEST OR THE HIGHEST QUALITY OF WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO PUT AT THIS, AT THIS LOCATION.
AND THAT WOULD CATER TO THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO WE'RE SUPER EXCITED THAT THIS IS A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO DO A CHILDCARE AND IT'S A VERY WELL PROVEN OPERATOR.
UM, AND SO WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, I GUESS I'LL OPEN IT TO ANY QUESTIONS YOU GUYS MIGHT HAVE THAT I CAN HELP ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS TO THE APPLICANT COUNCIL MEMBER? DORIAN, THANK YOU.
I JUST WANNA CIRCLE BACK TO MY QUESTION ON THE, UH, ON HAVING SOMEONE GUIDING THAT, UM, TRAFFIC BETWEEN SEVEN AND 10 MM-HMM
SURE, I UNDERSTAND IT'S STAGGERED, BUT I'M NOT QUITE SURE HOW MUCH TRAFFIC WILL BE COMING IN AND OUT AND HOW MUCH BACKUP THERE'LL BE.
BUT I MEAN, EVEN WITH CONES, YOU KNOW, IT'S QUITE A, IT'S, IT'S QUITE A DISTANCE FROM CO MM-HMM
BEFORE YOU GET TO THE FACILITY.
I'M JUST WONDERING IS, IS THERE ANY POSSIBILITY OF HAVING SOMEONE YOU KNOW THERE TO MONITOR THAT DURING THAT TIME PERIOD? AND ALSO IT'S NOT, PROBABLY NOT A BIT AS BIG OF AN ISSUE IN THE EVENING.
I THINK YOU HAVE IT FOR TWO HOURS IN THE EVENING.
UH, THERE'S, UH, PICKUP DROP OFF OR PICKUP ACTUALLY.
UH, SO I MEAN, WHAT IS YOUR THOUGHT ON THAT? ARE YOU THINKING THAT WE MIGHT NEED TO ADDRESS THAT IN SURE.
UH, YOU KNOW, IN ALL TRANSPARENCY, I WE'RE JUST, THE PROPERTY OWNER, WE'RE NOT THE OPERATOR.
AND SO IT WOULD BE THE OPERATOR THEMSELVES THAT WOULD SEND A TEACHER OR SOMETHING, SOMEONE OUT THERE.
SO I'D HAVE TO DISCUSS THAT WITH THEM.
JUST SO I'M CLEAR, UH, AND UNDERSTAND SO I CAN HAVE, HAVE THAT DISCUSSION WITH THE OPERATOR.
WHAT DO YOU ENVISION THAT PERSON OUTSIDE MONITORING KIND OF HELPING WITH? WELL, MAINLY THE TRAFFIC BECAUSE UHHUH, EVEN, EVEN THOUGH THERE'S CONES AND YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE MAY, SO ENSURING PEOPLE DON'T TAKE A RIDE.
I MEAN, YOU DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO.
BUT HONESTLY, IT'S LIKE I SAID, IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE JOURNEY FROM CO ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE BUILDING.
I'M JUST WONDERING IN CASE 31 DEVIATES OR IT DISTURBS THE, THE FLOW OF THE TRAFFIC DURING THAT TIME PERIOD, UM, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE LOOK AT MONITORING THAT IN THE NEAR SURE.
OR WELL NEAR FUTURE IN THIS CASE? YEAH, I THINK THAT'S ABSOLUTELY, UH, A POSSIBILITY.
I DON'T, I MEAN THIS OPERATOR, THEY, THEY UNDERSTAND KIND OF THE, THE ISSUES WITH THE TRAFFIC AND UH, THE ISSUES WITH THE EXISTING CONDITION OF THE TRAFFIC.
QUITE FRANKLY, EVEN WITH THIS BUILDING BEING VACANT, IT'S AN ISSUE ON NORTH LAKE
UM, AND SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE AWARE OF ALL THAT.
I THINK THEY'D BE OPEN TO THAT AS FAR AS KIND OF THE SEVEN TO 10 GOES, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE WITH KIND OF THE BROAD AGE RANGE OF INFANCY TO SIX.
YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY INFANCY IS, CALL IT 25% OF THEIR, I CAN'T, I'M MAKING UP NUMBERS AT THIS POINT, BUT IT'S ONLY A PORTION OF THEIR ENROLLMENT.
AND INFANTS ARE PROBABLY THE ONES THAT ARE LIKELY TO BE KIND OF STAGGERING IN AT EIGHT OR NINE OR 10 KIND OF DEPENDING ON FEEDING SCHEDULES AND MOM SCHEDULE AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
BUT AS THEY START TO BE FOUR OR FIVE AND SIX WHERE THEY HAVE A MORE STRICT CURRICULUM, THAT'S PROBABLY, ESPECIALLY WITH WORKING PARENTS,
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THAT'S WHEN THEY GOTTA GO TO WORK.THAT'S WHEN THEIR KIDS GO TO SCHOOL.
UM, SO I THINK IT'LL BE A LOT MORE, IT'S A BROAD RANGE, UM, BUT THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN 60% IS BETWEEN SEVEN 30 AND NINE, UM, SO TO SPEAK.
SO I THINK ESPECIALLY FOR A SHORT DURATION OF KIND OF PEAK HOURS, CAN SOMEONE BE OUT THERE? I THINK THAT'S ABSOLUTELY, UH, SOMETHING THEY'D BE OPEN TO.
I CAN'T COMMIT TO THAT FOR THEM 'CAUSE I'M NOT GONNA BE THE ONE IMPLEMENTING THAT PERSONALLY, BUT I'LL ABSOLUTELY HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.
I, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, FIRST OF ALL, WE KNOW THAT HAVING SOMEONE THERE IS GONNA COST MONEY.
AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE TUITION IS AT THIS FACILITY, BUT, AND I, AND I, I'M ASSUMING THEY'LL, THEY'LL FUND THAT MM-HMM
IF THEY HAVE LIKE AN OFFICER OR MM-HMM
A A METER PERSON THERE TO, TO MONITOR THINGS.
BUT I'VE, I'VE JUST WATCHED, UH, HELP FOR SOME FROM SOME OF THE OTHER SCHOOLS HOW PEOPLE BACK UP AND THEY'LL STOP AND STAY THERE ON THEIR PHONE AND THEREFORE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THIS BACKUP POTENTIALLY ON DECOY.
SO I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK AHEAD SURE.
AND POTENTIALLY BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION SO THAT Y'ALL CAN AT LEAST SPEAK TO THE APPLICANT AND, YOU KNOW, ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES.
UH, THE SECOND THING IS HAVE, I KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT REALLY TALKING ABOUT DESIGN HERE, AND I KNOW THAT WE HAVE, UH, I'VE JUST DESIGNED A RECENT, UH, CHILDCARE CENTER, SO I HAVE A LITTLE INFORMATION ON HOW THIS WORKS.
BUT WHAT TYPE OF, UH, BARRIER DO YOU HAVE ON THE GREEN SPACE? IS THAT JUST AN OPEN, LIKE WR IRON FENCE? I MEAN, AESTHETICALLY MM-HMM
I KNOW IT'S BACK IN THE BACK AND A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T SEE IT, BUT THE HOMES THAT ARE, UH, IN THAT COTTONWOOD AREA, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE ACCESS TO THAT.
AND POTENTIALLY THAT AFFECTS HOW THE CENTER LOOKS.
AND I KNOW YOU GUYS TAKE CARE OF THE, THE CENTERS AND, UH, YOU DO A REALLY GOOD JOB AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
JUST WONDERING KIND OF FROM A AESTHETIC STANDPOINT OR SURE.
WHAT'S THE VISION FOR THAT PROPERTY? AND SPEAKING TO OUR BAYER'S POINT EARLIER, I WANNA LOOK AT THE ENVISION PART OF THAT, RIGHT.
UH, AND SEE HOW THIS AFFECTS US MOVING FORWARD.
I KNOW ON THE, THE EAST BOUNDARY THAT GOES NORTH AND SOUTH OF THE GREEN AREA, UH, THAT'S THAT EXISTING WALL THAT'S, YOU KNOW, AROUND THAT DRAINAGE EASEMENT.
UM, AND SO AS FAR AS KIND OF ALL THE OTHER AREAS GO ON THE NORTH SIDE, UH, I KNOW THAT'S GONNA BE A METAL, UH, YOU KNOW, A METAL ARCHITECTURAL FENCE.
I'M JUST THINKING OUT LOUD HERE THAT I WOULD, I BELIEVE I HAVEN'T SEEN THE FULL DETAIL FROM THE TENANT JUST YET BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T FORMALLY KICKED OFF THEIR ARCHITECTURAL DRAWINGS GIVEN KIND OF WHERE WE ARE IN THE ENTITLEMENTS.
UH, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THAT'S GONNA BE A VISUAL BARRIER AS WELL, JUST FROM A PRIVACY STANDPOINT FOR CHILDREN ON A PLAYGROUND MM-HMM
UM, AND SO AESTHETICALLY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FINAL DETAIL IS, BUT I KNOW IT'S NOT GONNA BE A CHAIN LINK FENCE.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE WOULDN'T ALLOW THAT.
WELL, AND, AND I DO KNOW THAT YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO SEE THROUGH IT, YOU KNOW MM-HMM
I JUST WANNA, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, MOVING FORWARD WITH HOWEVER THE DESIGN'S GONNA COME ALONG, WE NEED TO WANNA MAKE SURE THE BUILDING'S AESTHETICALLY PLEASING AND POTENTIALLY EVEN SOME SOFT SCAPING, I KNOW THAT'S ALL CONCRETE YEAH.
SLAB AND PARKING AREA, BUT YOU CAN SAW, CUT SOME OF THE CONCRETE AND INTEGRATE SOME, YOU KNOW, SOME BUSHES AND SOME OTHER ABSOLUTELY.
YOU KNOW, JUST TO, LIKE I SAID, ENHANCE IT.
'CAUSE IT'S JUST, JUST A STANDALONE BUILDING.
AND NOW IT'S GONNA BE A DAYCARE RIGHT CENTER.
SO GENERALLY THERE'S, THERE'S NOT A LOT THAT YOU COULD DO, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME TYPE OF ENHANCEMENT THERE, IF AT ALL POSSIBLE.
WE, WE, WE LOVE LANDSCAPING AND WE LOVE TO MAKE IT AESTHETICALLY PLEASING.
THERE, THERE ARE GOOD OPPORTUNITIES TO SEE THOSE, UM, GRAY TREE, UH, DOTS AT THE TOP.
UH, THERE'S KIND OF A ROW IN BETWEEN THOSE PARKING STALLS OF LANDSCAPE AREA THAT'S NOT LANDSCAPED TODAY.
IRRIGATION IS BROKEN, IT'S PLANNED TO BE FIXED.
UM, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WITH VERY ENLARGED LANDSCAPE AREA FOR THE PLAYGROUND, THAT'LL BE A LOT OF SOFT SCAPE AND GREEN SPACE AS WELL.
AND THERE ARE, UH, A FEW OTHER AREAS, UH, AROUND THE PROPERTY AS WELL THAT WE CAN ADDRESS AS WELL AS LIGHTING.
LIGHTING IS A BIG DEAL AS WELL.
AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.
I THINK LIGHTING IS SUPER IMPORTANT.
UM, AND THANK YOU FOR, UH, CLARIFYING THAT.
I JUST HAVE ONE LAST QUESTION ON THE, UH, UH, AS, AS FAR AS, UH, ENVISIONING OUR NEW ENVISION, UH, FOR RICHARDSON.
HA, HAVE YOU HAD ANY OTHER INTEREST IN THIS BUILDING OTHER THAN A DAYCARE CENTER AND, AND WAS THERE ANYTHING ON THE TABLE AT ONE TIME POTENTIALLY? NO, SIR.
THAT'S BEEN VERY FEW AND FAR BETWEEN.
NO, NO CLOTHING SHOPS, NO OTHER TYPES OF RETAIL.
THIS, THIS IS, THIS IS DEFINITELY NOT AN ATTRACTIVE LOCATION FOR SOFT GOODS.
UM, AS FAR AS RESTAURANTS GO, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE VERY DESTINATIONAL, UH, IN, 'CAUSE THE OTHER END OF THE SPECTRUM IS A SPORTS BAR THAT MAKES IT SIX MONTHS.
UM, BUT THE OTHER END OF THAT SPECTRUM IS COULD WE FIND AN OPERATOR TO DO A REALLY COOL KATY TRAIL ICE HOUSE TYPE OF DEAL? UM, I THINK THAT THAT'S PROBABLY NOT ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE,
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UH, EVEN BEYOND IF WE FOUND AN OPERATOR TO, TO KIND OF ALMOST PARTNER WITH AT SOMETHING LIKE THAT.'CAUSE YOU'RE TALKING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS INTO IMPROVEMENTS TO THAT TO MAKE IT, EVEN IF YOU CAN PARK IT.
UM, BUT, AND THAT'S SOMETHING PROBABLY DON'T EVEN GET ME STARTED ON THE TRAFFIC FOR THAT SCENARIO.
BUT, UM, BUT YEAH, THE, THE INTEREST HAS BEEN UNFORTUNATELY PRETTY DIMMI DI MINIMIS JUST GIVEN HOW OFF STREET IT IS, THE VISIBILITY'S LOW.
THIS IS A DESTINATIONAL TYPE OF USE AT THIS TIME.
AND I, I JUST WANTED TO, JUST FOR THE RECORD SO PEOPLE COULD UNDERSTAND IT'S, YOU KNOW, AS THERE'VE BEEN ANY OTHER INTERESTS OR ANYTHING THAT COULD POTENTIALLY NO, THANK YOU FOR ASKING THAT.
UH, AND MR. MAYOR, I HONESTLY, I HAD THE SAME QUESTION THAT COUNCIL MEMBER DORIAN ASKED.
I THINK THAT'S THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE WRITTEN DOWN THAT'S ACTUALLY RELEVANT, SO, ALRIGHT.
UM, ONE, ONE QUESTION THAT I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED ON IS, IS THE SPECIAL PERMIT GRANITE TO THIS GENTLEMAN AS THE LANDOWNER? OR DOES THE SPECIAL PERMIT GO TO, I THINK YOU SAID THE, THE OPERATOR'S LITTLE BRICK, IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? WILLOW BRA ACADEMY.
WHO, WHO DOES THE ACTUAL SPECIAL PERMIT GO TO? THE SPECIAL PERMIT WILL GO TO WILLOW BURY CHILDCARE ACADEMY, WHICH WILL BE THE TENANT OPERATOR OF THE, OF THIS LOCATION.
SO I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED THAT THEY'RE NOT HERE TONIGHT.
BECAUSE OUR QUESTIONS ARE NOT NO DISRESPECT, BUT YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE THE ONE OPERATING, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE THE ONE.
SO I'VE GOT SEVERAL QUESTIONS THAT YOU CAN'T ANSWER FOR ME MM-HMM
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IT, IT, IT BOTHERS ME.
I I'M NOT, I'M NOT OPPOSED, PER SE, TO THE USE, BUT I'M OPPOSED TO THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF TO, TO COUNCILMAN CORCORAN'S POINT, YOU KNOW, IF CONES CAN BE RUN OVER, CONES CAN BE MM-HMM
MOVED OUTTA THE WAY QUICKLY MM-HMM
AND SO I RECOGNIZE YOU'LL TAKE THAT CONCERN BACK.
BUT WE REALLY HAVE, WE HAVE NO, WE HAVE NOTHING TONIGHT.
AND YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE COULD VERY QUICKLY HAVE A VERY UPSET NEIGHBORHOOD AS WAS MENTIONED.
WE COULD CALL THE SPECIAL PERMIT UP, BUT THAT GETS VERY UGLY, ESPECIALLY AFTER YOU PUT A LOT OF MONEY IN, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
SO I STRUGGLE WITH THE IDEA THAT THE ACTUAL PERSON, OR PER NOT PERSON, I APOLOGIZE, THE ACTUAL KEEPER OF THE PERMIT IS NOT HERE TONIGHT.
SO I, I I, I, I, I'M NOT SURE HOW TO RESOLVE THAT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO VOICE THAT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I, I GUESS A QUESTION, AND I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE LET ME LEMME TRY THIS SINCE WE CAN, SINCE IT'S CODIFIED IN HERE.
IS IT BACK ONE SLIDE OR TWO SLIDES? I FORGET WHERE IT IS THAT SHOWS THE, THE PARKING DIRECTION DE IS THAT, THAT TWO SLIDES AGO? SEVEN.
SO DO WE HAVE, CAN, CAN WE PUT, CAN WE PUT ONE MORE LINE IN THERE THAT SAYS THAT WE, WE REQUIRE, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE I I, I THINK FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE AT, AT OUR SCHOOLS, OFTENTIMES AN ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL IS OUT THERE.
I I SEE ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL, USUALLY IT'S AN ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL, MAYBE A, A, A A TEACHER, WHOEVER, UM, IS OUT DURING DROP OFF AND PICKUP TIMES AND THEY'RE MONITORING, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
SO CAN, CAN WE PUT, AS A PROVISION THAT WE, IN ORDER TO APPROVE THIS, WE WOULD REQUIRE A PERSON AT THAT ORANGE BLOCK AREA TO ASSURE BETWEEN THE HOURS OF SEVEN TO 10 AND FOUR TO SIX, CAN YOU REQUIRE THAT AS A PART OF A, SO PART OF A SPECIAL PERMIT OR NOT? MAYOR TIM? UM, I, I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND IT.
UM, I MEAN, ONCE YOU CODIFY SOMETHING, THERE'S AN EXPECTATION THAT THERE'S GONNA BE SOME KIND OF AN ENFORCEMENT.
AND I THINK, UM, I, I WOULD, IF I CAN, I, I WOULD MAKE THE, IF YOU'RE UNCOMFORTABLE PROCEEDING TONIGHT WITH A DECISION, WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO TALK TO THE APPLICANT DIRECTLY, UM, I WOULD RECOMMEND CONTINUING THIS CASE TO JANUARY THE 26TH.
GIVE THE OP, GIVE THE OPERATOR, EXCUSE ME, GIVE THE OPERATOR ONE CHANCE TO COME BEFORE YOU TO ANSWER THESE KINDS OF QUESTIONS AND SEE IF THEY CAN GIVE YOU ANY KIND OF AN ASSURANCE.
UH, DEFINITELY WOULD RECOMMEND THAT.
AND IF YOU DECIDE THAT YOU WANNA OPERATIONALIZE THIS AND INCLUDE, UM, A REQUIREMENT OF, UH, STAFFING, WHICH, UM, AGAIN, WOULD GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO THINK THROUGH THAT.
UM, BUT IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE UNCOMFORTABLE PROCEEDING WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO SPEAK TO THE OPERATOR, I WOULD SUGGEST CONTINUING THE CASE TO JANUARY 26TH.
IF THE OPERATOR DOESN'T SHOW UP ON THE 26TH.
AFTER, AFTER KNOWING THAT YOU WANT TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH THEM FIRSTHAND, THEN YOU CAN TAKE ANOTHER ACTION.
COUNCIL MEMBER CORCORAN QUESTION.
SO DAWN, I MEAN, I APPRECIATE THE RECOMMENDATION TO MAYOR PRO TEM, BUT THERE'S ALREADY AN EXPECTATION OF ENFORCEMENT WITH THE CURRENT PROVISIONS HERE, RIGHT? SO WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE EXPECTATION OF ENFORCEMENT OF AN INDIVIDUAL BEING OUT THERE AND THE CURRENT TRAFFIC PATTERN? SO, ARE YOU GONNA, ARE YOU GONNA MANDATE THAT SOMEBODY BE OUT FOR THREE CONTINUOUS HOURS? UH, THAT SOUNDS
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LIKE WHAT MAYOR PRO TIMM WAS.SO, I, I THINK TO ANSWER, I THINK TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IT IS POSSIBLE, AND YOU COULD MAKE THE MOTION THAT WAY IF THAT WAS THE CASE.
IS THAT, IS THAT TRUE? I, I WOULD, I ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, I I WOULD, I WOULD ASK YOU TO, TO CONSIDER ALLOWING US TO RESEARCH THAT I CANNOT RECALL IN 30 YEARS A CASE WHERE WE'VE, THROUGH A ZONING ACTION, MANDATED A, A STAFFING ASSOCIATED WITH A USE.
I MEAN, RECALL THIS, THIS IS ABOUT THE USE.
IF YOU'RE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THE USE BASED ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT ARE BEING PRESENTED, THEN I WOULD RECOMMEND YOU DENY THE CASE.
UM, IF YOU WOULD LIKE US TO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WOULD LIKE US TO EVALUATE THE LEGALITY OF REQUIRING A A A, A STAFFING, UM, PROVISION IN A ZONING ORDINANCE, I WOULD LIKE TIME TO STUDY THAT WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY.
SO I WOULD RECOMMEND IN THAT CASE THAT YOU CONTINUE IT TO THE 26TH.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MAYOR PERAN? NO, THAT WAS MY QUESTION.
DO YOU OWN THAT BUILDING TO THE SOUTH? NO, SIR.
UM, IS THE, THE OPERATOR LOCAL OR IS THIS, YOU MENTIONED MOST OF 'EM ARE IN CANADA.
FIRST OF ALL, THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE HERE TONIGHT AND THAT THEY CAME DOWN WITH A SICKNESS.
UH, THEY DO HAVE AN EXECUTIVE THAT LIVES IN DESOTO, AND SHE WAS GONNA DRIVE IN TONIGHT.
SHE WAS HERE FOR THE, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION.
UH, SHE WAS PRESENT FOR THAT, AND ABSOLUTELY, IF YOU GUYS WANNA TABLE IT, SHE WILL DEFINITELY BE HERE, UH, ON THE NEXT DEAL.
SO I APOLOGIZE SHE'S NOT HERE.
SHE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE, BUT SHE BECAME ILL.
UH, BUT SHE DOES, SHE'S ON THEIR EXECUTIVE TEAM AND SHE LIVES IN DESOTO.
UH, YOU SAID YOU ALL DO NOT OWN THE BUILDING TO THE SOUTH VALLEY? NO, SIR, WE DO NOT.
THE, I'M NOT, AND I UNDERSTAND IT MAY BE A COUPLE PEOPLE'S CONCERNS ABOUT PUTTING SOMEBODY THERE.
AND WE HAVE SEEN ZONING CASES WHERE OPERATORS AREN'T HERE.
A LOT OF TIMES THE OWNER WILL COME IN OR, YOU KNOW, AND, UH, SINCE, SINCE A LOT OF TIMES IT'S CONTINGENT ON YOU BEING ABLE TO GET THIS PAST, YOU KNOW, ZONING.
UM, THE BUILDING TO THE SOUTH, AND I PROBABLY SHOULD ADMIT IT, BUT I FREQUENT THAT CHINESE RESTAURANT WAY MORE THAN I, MY DOCTOR PROBABLY CARES FROM YOU TO ADMIT
I'M, I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC FLOW.
I DON'T THINK SOMEBODY NEEDS TO BE THERE, BUT I DO HAVE MM-HMM
UM, THE HIGHLIGHTED YELLOW PARKING, YOU REALLY FEEL WITH 220, THAT'S GONNA BE ENOUGH PARKING.
DO YOU, I'M ASSUMING YOU HAVE RIGHTS, THE PARKING ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THAT DIVISION AND MM-HMM
YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO USE THE PARKING AROUND YOU.
AND I GUESS, YOU KNOW, ON TOPIC, BUT MORE FROM A PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, I'VE GOT A 2-YEAR-OLD SON AND HE'S AT A DAYCARE AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S 120 KIDS AT HIS DAYCARE AND THEY HAVE ABOUT 22 PARKING SPOTS ISH.
IT'S NEVER MORE THAN HALF FULL.
UH, IF I'M THERE MORE THAN THREE MINUTES, THEN YEAH, I'M NOT DOING MY JOB CORRECTLY.
IT'S, IT IS, AS WELL AS, SINCE THERE IS ANYWHERE, ANYONE THAT'S YOUNGER THAN PRE-K OR KINDERGARTEN, THERE'S NOT A HARD START TIME LIKE A SCHOOL WHERE YOU HAVE TO HAVE A DOCTOR'S NOTE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
AND SO THAT CREATES SIGNIFICANT FLEXIBILITY WHERE THERE'S NOT A FIRST MORNING BELL AT EIGHT 15, AND IF YOU'RE NOT THERE, YOU GOTTA HAVE A DOCTOR'S NOTE OR YOU GET A TARDINESS.
IT'S, IT'S VERY LOOSEY GOOSEY.
AND THAT IS GONNA ULTIMATELY HELP THE STAGGERED AS WELL.
UM, SO THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY A SCHOOL, UH, WHERE THERE'S A FIRST BELL, SO TO SPEAK.
AND ALTHOUGH MINE IS NOW A SENIOR IN HIGH SCHOOL, I REMEMBER THOSE, THOSE YEARS FONDLY.
I, I LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I FREQUENT THIS AREA OFTEN, AND YEAH, THAT BUILDING'S BEEN EMPTY FOREVER.
SO I'M GLAD YOU HAVE THESE, SIR, HAVE SOMETHING TO HOPEFULLY SEE SOME ROI ON AND, UH, THANK YOU.
UH, COUNCIL MEMBER DORIAN, UH, IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO MAKE A MOTION? I, I WOULD LOVE A MOTION OF ANY KIND.
HEAR FROM, UH, YEAH, ACTUALLY, YEAH, IT IS AN OPEN HEARING.
SO IF THERE ARE ANY, UH, UH, PUBLIC HEARING, SO IF THERE ARE ANY COMMENTS, LOVE TO HEAR THOSE.
MS. ER, I HAVE ONE MAYOR, ELISE DOHERTY.
AND, UH, PLEASE STAY, UH, MAKE YOURSELF AVAILABLE JUST IN CASE WE NEED TO CALL YOU BACK UP FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
APPRECIATE IT ALL YOUR SITUATION.
ELISE STORY, 7 0 1 NORTH COTTONWOOD DRIVE.
UM, MY CONCERN, ALONG WITH, UH, SOME NEIGHBORS WHO ARE NOT COMFORTABLE COMING TO GOVERNMENT, UH, GATHERINGS LIKE THIS DO HAVE A CONCERN
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ABOUT THE TRAFFIC ISSUES.UM, WHILE IT APPEARS THAT, UH, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME EFFORTS TO BLOCK THE TRAFFIC FROM ENTERING THE NORTH LAKE ENTRANCE, UM, THIS LIKE WAS STATED EARLIER, UM, CONES ARE EASY TO RUN OVER.
I RUN, I RUN OVER MY OWN, BUT, UM, OUTSIDE JUST SOMETHING MORE PHYSICAL, IT'S GONNA BE DIFFICULT TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM GOING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
MY QUESTION IS, AFTER HEARING, UH, THE PANTRY, UH, TONIGHT, UM, THERE IS A STRAIGHT SHOT FROM YOU TURN LEFT, GETTING AFTER DROPPING OFF.
THERE'S A STRAIGHT SHOT STRAIGHT TO ARAPAHOE, OKAY, THAT PEOPLE COULD TAKE AS OPPOSED TO LOOPING BACK AROUND AND CAUSING TRAFFIC JAM IN THE PARKING LOT RIGHT THERE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE DONE THAT, DAN, I THINK YOU HAVE, UH, YOU CAN SIT THERE AND, UH, FILE YOUR NAILS WHILE THAT LIGHT CHANGES.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE GONNA CHANGE THE, UH, TIMING ON THAT OR NOT, BUT, UM, THAT'S ANOTHER ISSUE.
THEY'RE GONNA BACK UP AND THEN THEY'RE GONNA BLOCK ACCESS TO THESE OTHER PLACES.
WELL, BETWEEN SEVEN AND 10, YOU'RE THINKING, WELL, WHO'S GONNA HAVE BUSINESS? WELL, I'M HERE TO TESTIFY THAT, THAT THAT PHYSICAL THERAPY PLACE HAS BUSINESS AT SEVEN.
OKAY? 'CAUSE I'VE BEEN IN THERE, THE PLACE IS PACKED.
OKAY? NOW, THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS ABOUT PARKING.
PARKING THERE, UH, THERE WAS SOME MENTION OF 42 PARKING SPOTS AVAILABLE.
UM, 40 OR 46 ARE ON SITE, BUT THEY HAVE 27 STAFF PEOPLE.
WHERE ARE THEY GONNA GO? WHERE ARE THEY GONNA PARK? THAT'S GONNA TAKE UP A LOT OF THOSE SPACES.
UH, THESE ARE JUST, THESE ARE JUST QUESTIONS.
OKAY? I, YOU KNOW, I MAY HAVE MY NUMBERS WRONG, BUT PARKING, THERE ISN'T THAT MUCH.
AND WHEN YOU GOT A, WHEN YOU GOT A 3-YEAR-OLD KID, YOU'RE NOT GONNA WANNA WALK TWO BLOCKS TO TAKE HIM UP TO THE BUILDING.
OKAY? SO, PARKING CONGESTION CONCERNING THE BUSINESSES, UH, THE TRAFFIC FLOW, THAT INTERSECTION, THAT NORTH LAKE ENTRANCE THERE IS ALREADY AT CAPACITY.
UM, I HAVE STUDIED THIS, UH, I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MUCH FOR FIVE YEARS, A DECADE AGO.
AND IT'S THE ONLY THING THAT MADE IT BETTER WAS WHEN THAT WALMART CLOSED.
OKAY? THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT MADE IT BETTER.
IT'S, UH, IT'S JUST CRAZY HOW MANY PEOPLE COME THROUGH THERE.
I WAS VERY HAPPY TO SEE, I HOPE THAT MY INPUT INSTIGATED THE, THE TRAFFIC COUNT ON NORTH LAKE THAT HAPPENED JUST THIS FRIDAY, SO THAT WE HAVE A BAROMETER.
WE CAN TELL IF THERE IS, UM, AN INCREASE OR NOT.
OKAY? MY, UH, THE NEXT QUESTION IS WHO'S WHO, WHO'S GONNA MONITOR IT? WHO'S GONNA BE THE ONE TO TELL 'EM, HEY, THERE'S TOO MUCH TRAFFIC GOING THROUGH HERE? WELL, THE CITY'S GOT A, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE TIMES A YEAR THEY DO A STUDY.
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, I HAVE TO LIVE WITH THAT.
I HAVE A LITTLE SEATING AREA IN MY FRONT YARD WITH A LITTLE FIRE PIT.
YOU KNOW, I JUST SIT THERE AND JUST COUNT 'EM.
I DID MY OWN TRAFFIC STUDY BEFORE CHRISTMAS HOLIDAYS WHEN BEFORE SCHOOL WAS LET OUT.
IT ISN'T DIFFICULT, OKAY? IT WAS CLOSE TO WHAT THEIR COUNT CAME TO, BUT WHO IS GONNA DO IT? WHO'S GONNA ENFORCE IT? THEY'RE GONNA PUT A SIGN UP.
I WAS TOLD BY THE POLICE CHIEF THAT THE SIGN THAT SAYS NO BOX TRUCKS OVER HERE, $200 FINE, IS AN ENFORCEABLE, IS IT ONE OF THOSE UNENFORCEABLE ONES? AND DO OUR POLICE, UH, OFFICERS HAVE TIME TO MONITOR THAT KIND OF, YOU KNOW, NONVIOLENT KIND OF VIOLATION.
SO THERE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS OUT THERE, AND, UH, I APPRECIATE YOU, UH, COUN COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO'VE, UM, GIVEN THEIR INPUT.
I'VE TALKED TO SEVERAL OF YOU, UM, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR INPUT AND CONCERNS AND ALL OF YOU ASK THE QUESTIONS THAT I'D JUST LOVE TO HEAR.
ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? NO OTHER SPEAKER.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT HOPES TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE? ALRIGHT, I'M READY FOR A MOTION NOW.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO RESCHEDULE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, YOU PROBABLY WANNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I'D LIKE, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ALRIGHT, UH, MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHEN RIDER.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER DORIAN, A SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM
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HUTCHIN RIDER.CAN I ASK A QUESTION BEFORE YOU GO? CAN TO THE NEXT? YEAH, DON'T CLOSE.
I, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANNA HEAR COUNSEL.
I THINK THAT'S THE SAME THING.
I MEAN, IF WE CONTINUE THEN ALRIGHT, WELL THEN LET'S DISCUSS THIS.
UM, MAYOR BEFORE, JUST SO NOBODY MAKES A MOTION, UH, IF YOU WANNA CONTINUE, YOU CAN DON'T CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SO THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.
UH, I, I'M, I'M GONNA JUST MAKE A QUICK STATEMENT AND THEN WE CAN SEE HOW WE WANNA PROCEED WITH THIS.
UM, AS I SAID EARLIER, ONE OF THE GOALS IN THIS TERM IS TO MINIMIZE THE NUMBER OF MEETINGS, UM, UH, OR A NUMBER OF TIMES WHERE AN APPLICANT HAS TO COME BEFORE US, ESPECIALLY IF WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS IN LINE WITH WHAT OUR GOALS ARE AND WHAT OUR VISION IS FOR DIFFERENT AREAS.
ENVISION RICHARDSON, AS WAS SAID A COUPLE TIMES TONIGHT, SPECIFIES THAT THIS IS A USE THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO APPROVE WITHOUT ANY HEARING WHATSOEVER, WITHOUT ANY CONES, WITHOUT NO RIGHT TURN, WITHOUT ANY OF THAT.
WE'VE ALSO HEARD THAT THERE ARE MULTIPLE OTHER USES AVAILABLE TODAY THAT COULD COME IN TOMORROW WITHOUT ANY NEED FOR ANY HEARING, WITHOUT ANY CONES, WITHOUT ANY RIGHT TURN AS IT STANDS TODAY.
SO BY US DELAYING THIS, IT'S GOING TO REALLY MAKE ME THINK MORE THAN TWICE ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WHAT WE WANT TO DO IN THE FUTURE IS ACTUALLY CODIFY SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU GUYS WORKED REALLY HARD ON FOR ENVISION RICHARDSON AND ACTUALLY MAKE IT A PART OF OUR, OUR NEW ZONING.
SO, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, UH, I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY FINISH THIS MEETING THIS EVENING WITHOUT ANY APPLICANT, JUST LIKE WE WOULD BE ABLE, ACTUALLY, WE WOULD NEVER EVEN HEAR IT, UH, IN A FEW MONTHS IF, IF WE DO WHAT WE SAID WE WANTED TO DO.
SO, I'D LOVE TO HEAR ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC.
COUNCIL MEMBER CORCORAN? NO, MR. MAYOR.
I WOULD, I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT.
I MEAN, I THINK, YOU KNOW, SO I GUESS MY PERSPECTIVE IS, AND I'M GONNA BE FINE IF WE CONTINUE IT TOO, BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M READY TO VOTE FOR IT TONIGHT WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT IF I EVEN GET A WHIFF FROM STAFF OR A BUNCH OF NEIGHBORS, THAT THIS IS NOT BEING ENFORCED ACCORDING TO WHAT WE WOULD PASS.
I'M PERFECTLY COMFORTABLE IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS CALLING THIS BACK UP, BRINGING EVERYONE BACK UP HERE AND POTENTIALLY RESCINDING THE ENTIRE SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
AND IT SOUNDS LIKE I'D HAVE SUPPORT FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE ON THIS COUNCIL TO DO THAT.
SO, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT UNDERSTANDING, I MEAN, THE DEVELOPER, THE, THE PROPERTY OWNER IS HERE AND IT'S A DIRECT CONSEQUENCE TO THEM THAT THEY CAN BRING BACK TO THE APPLICANT, OR I GUESS THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT GRANTEE AS WELL, BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO FIND A BRAND NEW TENANT.
SO, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT UNDERSTANDING, I MEAN, I'M, I'M ON THE SAME PAGE AS YOU, OF COURSE, I'M NOT GONNA BE UPSET IF I CAN MAKE THE SAME SPEECH TO THE ACTUAL GRANTEE OF THE PERMIT, YOU KNOW, IN A COUPLE WEEKS TOO.
MAYOR, I, I'M KIND OF ALONG WITH YOU IS, I, I THINK THAT, UM, I'LL BE HONEST, I DON'T KNOW IF, IF HOLDING IT OFF WILL REALLY CHANGE ANYTHING.
IT'S NOT, I'VE SEEN IT BEFORE WHERE THE ACTUAL USER OF THE BUILDING IS NOT HERE.
UM, I DON'T THINK THAT WILL CHANGE ANYTHING, AT LEAST FROM MY PERSPECTIVE.
I HAVE SOME CONCERNS, AND I THINK I'M WITH COUNCILMAN CORCORAN ON THIS AND SAYING THAT THERE'S ANY PEE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
MS. DOHERTY BROUGHT UP THAT LIGHT AT COY.
THAT IS A HORRIBLE LIGHT THAT TAKES FOREVER.
UH, WITH THAT, WITH THAT LAUNDROMAT THAT WENT IN, IT, IT, THIS WHOLE PARKING LOT IS A MESS.
I MEAN, THIS WHOLE SHOPPING CENTER, JUST THE FLOW OF IT, THE WAY IT'S, UH, ONE OF PROBABLY THE WORST ONES IN, IN THIS PLACE.
UM, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE, I FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU ALWAYS, EVERYTHING WE SEE, WE KIND OF BALANCE THE NEEDS OF BUSINESS AND THE NEEDS OF RESIDENTS.
I'M VERY CONCERNED WITH THEM GOING TO NORTH LAKE.
AT THE SAME TIME, I FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD GIVE 'EM THE OPPORTUNITY.
AND MAY THE APPLICANT KNOW THAT, UH, IT SOUNDS LIKE COUNCILMAN CORCORAN IS WATCHING.
I KNOW I'LL BE WATCHING AND WE'LL, AND I'M SURE I'M NOT, WE, WE AREN'T THE ONLY ONES ON THE COUNCIL WHO WILL BE WATCHING THIS CLOSELY AND HEARING FROM RESIDENTS.
'CAUSE THIS IS, THIS IS A CONCERN AND I'M KIND OF ON THE FENCE WITH THIS VOTE.
BUT I DO THINK THAT NOT PUTTING IT OFF, THAT DOING IT TONIGHT VERSUS PUTTING IT OFF, I DON'T FEEL THAT WILL CHANGE ANYTHING.
I'VE SAT AND LISTENED TO TO EVERYTHING TONIGHT.
I DIDN'T HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.
I THINK THIS IS A PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD CASE.
I THINK THAT THE STAFF HAS BEEN RESPONSIVE TO WHAT THE CONCERNS WERE, UH, AT THE CPC MEETING.
UH, IT'S CONSISTENT WITH ENVISION RICHARDSON.
UM, I DON'T SEE ANY REASON TO DELAY THIS.
UM, I THINK THIS IS A REALLY GOOD NEIGHBORHOOD USE, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT ENVISION RICHARDSON CALLED FOR.
UM, AND I THINK WE'VE PUT THE APPROPRIATE, UM, MITIGATION FACTORS IN HERE TO, TO CALL THIS BACK UP.
AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK SHOP HAS BEEN A REALLY GOOD PARTNER TO THE CITY, UH, WITH THEIR INVESTMENTS, UH, BOTH HERE AND OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY.
AND I THINK THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN RESPONSIVE WHEN WE'VE HAD ISSUES OR QUESTIONS, UH, ABOUT HOW WE, WE WANTED THEM TO OPERATE THEIR, THEIR CENTERS.
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IN FAVOR OF THIS.I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO CONTINUE IT.
AND I, I JUST WANNA REITERATE THE SAME THING.
I, I MEAN, I, I DO NOT, AND I AGREE.
I DO NOT WANT TO ADD MORE MEETINGS TO OUR AGENDA AND WASTE OUR TIME AND ADD MORE, UH, JUST, JUST, JUST ADD MORE HOURS TO THE COUNCIL.
BUT, UH, I JUST WANT, MY MAIN THING IS TO ADDRESS THE TRAFFIC STUDY.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE, IF AS LONG AS WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PULL UP THE SPECIAL USE IN THE FUTURE, IF THERE BECOMES AN ISSUE WITH THE TRAFFICKING, THEN I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF OUR CONSTITUENTS, THE RESIDENTS AND THE STAKEHOLDERS ARE AWARE OF THAT.
BUT I, I'M, I'M, I'M FOR THIS, I UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS OF IT, BUT, AND I'M NOT FOR POSTPONING IT.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ADDRESSING THE, THE TRAFFIC ISSUES.
MAYOR, MY, MY QUESTION IS, TO YOUR POINT, WHEN YOU SAID THAT, GIVEN HOW ENVISION RICHARDSON HAS BEEN PUT TOGETHER, MY QUESTION IS, IS HOW WOULD'VE WOULD STAFF THROUGH THEIR OWN ACTIONS, WOULD THEY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SIMPLY SAY THAT THEY CAN, THAT WE WOULD, THAT THE NO RIGHT TURN DURING PICKUP AND DROP OFF, THAT, THAT WOULD BE PUT UP.
THAT THOSE CONES WOULD BE PUT UP, THAT THE, THAT THE, UM, CIRCULATION PLAN WOULD BE IN, WOULD BE PUT INTO PLACE AND WOULD BE ENFORCED VIA, NOR VIA THE, THE, THE ZONING.
'CAUSE THAT, THAT'S THE PART I'M CONFUSED ABOUT.
'CAUSE MY, MY SENSE IS THAT'S THE BIGGEST PART OF THE SPECIAL PERMIT.
I'M NOT DISAGREEING WITH YOU, MAYOR.
I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND AS TO HOW DO WE GET THIS WITH AND, AND ADD THAT TO YOUR, TO YOUR COMMENTS AS FAR AS THE ENVISION RICHARD? NO, MAY I APPROACH TO, THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT POINT.
UM, IF IT'S ALLOWED BY, RIGHT.
NONE OF THESE CONDITIONS ARE PLACED ON THE OPERATOR.
SO THE ONLY WAY YOU GET THE CIRCULATION, THE NO RIGHT TURN, UM, IS THROUGH, UM, CODIFYING THAT AS PART OF YOUR SPECIAL PERMIT, UM, THAT YOU, YOU APPROVE.
SO A RESTAURANT WITH FIVE TIMES AS MUCH BUSINESS WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN TOLD TO NOT HAVE A NOTE.
LIKE THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO HAVE THAT CONE OR THOSE RIGHT TURN.
THEY JUST COME IN WITH FIVE TIMES AS MUCH BUSINESS, FIVE TIMES AS MUCH TRAFFIC THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE DAY.
AND WE'D HAVE NOTHING TO SAY ABOUT IT AS IT STANDS TODAY.
SO IT'S JUST SOMETHING ELSE TO CONSIDER, UH, ON, ON THAT FRONT, BUT, OKAY.
I'LL TAKE A MOTION IF THERE, WELL, LET ME, IF YES, CAN, LET ME, LET ME, SO YOU HAVE TWO OPTIONS AT THIS POINT.
UM, WITH OUR CITY SECRETARY, THERE IS A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING, THEN A SECOND.
YOU CAN EITHER VOTE TO DENY THAT AND KILL THAT MOTION.
AND THEN MAKE A MOTION, UH, TO CONTINUE TO, UH, JANUARY 26TH AT 6:00 PM UM, OR, UH, COUNCILMAN, UH, DOREEN, YOU CAN WITHDRAW YOUR MOTION.
OR WE CAN CLOSE IT AND VOTE ON IT OR YES.
SO I HAVE HEARD A, A A A MOTION IN A SECOND.
AND IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION ON THIS MOTION? OR IS THERE ANY DESIRE TO RESCIND YOUR MOTION? WE CAN, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.
AS I, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, I CAN RESCIND.
DO I? NO, I'D LOVE IT IF YOU DIDN'T, BUT IF YOU WANNA, IF YOU WANNA RESCIND
SO WE CAN TAKE A VOTE ON WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, AS A PART OF THE DISCUSSION TO THIS PARTICULAR MOTION, I WILL SAY THAT I'LL BE VOTING FOR CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING SO THAT WE CAN MOVE ON TO VOTING FOR THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST.
SO, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS MOTION? SEEING NONE.
ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY AND WE ARE NOW CLOSED.
AND I'LL NOW TAKE ANOTHER MOTION UNLESS THERE IS A DISCUSSION.
COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE, I'M PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION.
UH, I MOVE TO APPROVE ZONING FILE 25 DASH 20 AS PRESENTED WITH THE CONDITIONS, UM, THAT STAFF.
ALRIGHT, MAYOR TIME HUTCHIN WRITER.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE, A SECOND BY MAYOR PRO, TIMM HUTCHIN RIDER.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL RIGHT.
ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[7. DISCUSS THE HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT AND STRATEGY]
ALRIGHT.UM, I BELIEVE OUR NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, WHICH IS TO DISCUSS THE HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT AND STRATEGY.
UH, COUNCIL, WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE TONIGHT MAUREEN MILLIGAN WITH GROW AMERICA, UH, JOINING US AGAIN, UH, AS A LITTLE BIT OF A, A PREFACE TO, UH, MAUREEN'S, UH, PRESENTATION TONIGHT.
I WANNA REMIND YOU, UM, THAT, UH, WHEN SHE WAS LAST HERE, SHE PRESENTED, UH, A A VARIETY OF, UM, SEVERAL, UH, DIFFERENT ACTION ITEMS THAT, UH, WE WOULD, UH, CONSIDER.
WHAT YOU'LL SEE TONIGHT IS A FOCUS ON THE FOUR THAT WE CONFIRM WITH YOU AT THAT TIME, WERE OF INTEREST TO YOU.
UM, WANNA ALSO, UM, MAKE CLEAR THAT TONIGHT IS NOT THE BRIEFING ON THESE FOUR ACTION ITEMS. UH, TONIGHT IS THE CONCLUSION OF THE ASSESSMENT AND THE REPORT.
EACH OF THESE FOUR ITEMS THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT AT THE END OF THE NIGHT, WE'LL HAVE ITS OWN, UH, BRIEFING WITH THE COUNCIL, AND IT'LL HAVE ITS OWN SERIES OF DISCUSSIONS.
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AND ULTIMATELY, YOU'LL GIVE US DIRECTION ON EACH OF THE FOUR.AND SO OUTTA THIS TACTIC COMES, UH, FOUR MORE TACTICS, IF YOU WILL, AND FOUR MORE LINES OF, UH, OF, UH, ATTENTION AND, AND WORK PLAN, UH, COMMITMENT, UH, BY, BY YOU AND BY BY THE STAFF.
AND SO, UM, LOOK FORWARD TO, UH, DISCUSSING THE TIMELINE FOR THOSE INITIATIVES AT THE END OF THIS PRESENTATION.
BUT IN THE MEANTIME, LET ME HAVE, UH, MAUREEN RUN THROUGH, UM, THE ASSESSMENT AND THE STRATEGY.
UM, AND, UM, HOPEFULLY YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THIS IN ADVANCE AS WE PRESENTED THIS TO YOU, UH, ABOUT A WEEK AGO TONIGHT, MAUREEN.
WE HAD, UM, ORIGINALLY HAVE SLIDES WITH DISCUSSION AFTER EVERY ITEM.
I WAS GOING TO GO THROUGH THOSE PRETTY QUICKLY IN DISCUSSION AT THE END.
WELL, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME BACK.
I GUESS THE FIRST BRIEFING WENT WELL ENOUGH.
YOU WERE WILLING TO INVITE ME BACK, SO I APPRECIATE THIS.
UM, WE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION.
IT WAS A PRETTY, UH, MEATY BRIEFING THE LAST TIME AROUND THIS, LIKE MR. MAGNER SAID IS MUCH MORE FOCUSED ON THE TACTICS.
AND WE'RE GONNA MOVE PRETTY QUICKLY, BUT I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AT THE END.
UH, SO WE'RE GONNA DO JUST A LITTLE BIT OF REVIEW OF WHAT WE DISCUSSED IN THE LAST BRIEFING.
BUT REALLY THE FOCUS OF THIS BRIEFING IS ON THE FOUR, UM, TACTICS, WHICH IS, UH, A NEW HOME REPAIR PROGRAM, UM, THAT WOULD BE FUNDED BY ACCEPTING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDING FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT GOVERNMENT, UM, FOCUSING ON, UM, HELPING TO CREATE MORE MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING AND THEN, UH, NEW CONSTRUCTION OF RENTAL HOUSING THROUGH OPPORTUNITY ZONES AND THEN CREATING A HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION AND OR A PUBLIC FACILITY CORPORATION.
SO JUST TO REVIEW THE COMPONENTS OF, UM, WHAT GROWER DELIVERED, WE PERFORMED A HOUSING ASSESSMENT THAT WAS REALLY THAT, THAT DATA ANALYSIS.
UM, SO THAT COULD INFORM WHAT YOUR HOUSING STRATEGY WAS.
WE IDENTIFIED YOUR PRIORITY HOUSING NEEDS, UM, AND DISCUSSED IN THAT BRIEFING PROGRAMS, POLICIES AND TOOLS THAT YOU COULD USE.
THERE WAS A WHOLE TOOLBOX AND YOU HELP NARROW IT DOWN OF WHAT WE SHOULD FOCUS ON.
AND SO YOUR THREE PRIORITY HOUSING NEEDS WERE ONE, THAT OLDER LOW INCOME HOMEOWNERS NEED THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAFELY AGE IN PLACE OR TO BE ABLE TO REALLY MOVE INTO, ALSO TO MOVE INTO A HOME THAT BETTER SUITS THEIR NEEDS.
UM, SO EITHER THROUGH REPAIR OR THROUGH DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOUSING, UM, THERE'S A NEED FOR MORE REASONABLY PRICED FOR SALE HOUSING UNITS FOR FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN, AND THEN MORE WELL MAINTAINED RENTAL HOUSING UNITS ARE NEEDED THAT ARE AFFORDABLE FOR LOW WAGE WORKERS.
AND WHAT WAS REALLY GREAT ABOUT WHAT YOU, UM, PRIORITIZED IS, UM, AT LEAST ONE OF THOSE TACTICS ADDRESSES AT LEAST ONE OF THESE PRIORITY HOUSING NEEDS.
AND SO THIS MATRIX YOU SAW, UM, LAST TIME AROUND, AND I ADDED THE STARS TO WHAT YOU WANTED US TO FOCUS ON.
AND SO YOU CAN SEE IT REALLY DOES ADDRESS BOTH THE NEEDS OF HOMEOWNERS OR HOME BUYERS AND RENTERS, AS WELL AS PRESERVING YOUR EXISTING STOCK HOUSING STOCK, DEVELOPING NEW HOUSING STOCK.
IT DOESN'T FOCUS ON ECONOMIC MOBILITY, BUT IN SOME WAYS THAT'S OKAY TO HAVE THAT BE A LATER TACTIC BECAUSE WE'RE FOCUSING ON CREATING MORE SUPPLY.
UM, SO THEN YOU CAN ADDRESS THOSE DEMAND FACTORS, UM, LATER ON TO HELP PEOPLE BE ABLE TO AFFORD SOME OF THE HOUSING STOCK THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO PRODUCE AND PRESERVE THROUGH, UM, YOUR PROGRAMS. SO, CDBG, UM, I SHOWED THIS SLIDE LAST TIME AROUND, JUST WANTED TO FOCUS ON IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE, BE ACCEPTING FEDERAL FUNDING, THERE'S BOTH CONSTRAINTS AND OPPORTUNITIES WITH THAT FUNDING.
SO THE CONSTRAINT IS YOU HAVE TO ALIGN WITH THE REGULATIONS.
SO YOUR CDBG PROGRAM WILL HAVE TO ALIGN WITH AT LEAST ONE OF THOSE NATIONAL OBJECTIVES.
UM, AND PRIMARILY, UM, MOST PROGRAMS FOCUS ON BENEFITING LOW AND MODERATE INCOME INDIVIDUALS.
AND IN THE NEXT SLIDE, I'M GONNA WALK YOU THROUGH WHO'S CONSIDERED LOW AND MODERATE INCOME.
AND THEN YOU HAVE TO ENGAGE IN AN ELIGIBLE ACTIVITY, HOME REPAIRS AND ELIGIBLE ACTIVITY.
THE OPPORTUNITIES ARE ONCE YOU MEET THOSE BROAD, UM, CONSTRAINTS, YOU CAN DESIGN YOUR PROGRAM TO MEET THE NEEDS OF YOUR, YOUR COMMUNITY.
AND SO THAT FIRST PRIORITY HOUSING NEED ABOUT OLDER HOMEOWNERS NEEDING THE OPPORTUNITIES TO SAFELY AGE IN PLACE, YOU CAN DESIGN, IF YOU CHOOSE A HOME REPAIR PROGRAM THAT FOCUSES REALLY, UM, SPECIFICALLY ON THAT, THAT, UH, POPULATION OF INDIVIDUALS.
WE ESTIMATE TOO THAT YOU WOULD RECEIVE A LITTLE UNDER, UM, $700,000 A YEAR FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO OPERATE THAT.
UM, THAT PROGRAM THAT INCLUDES 20% OF FUNDING THAT CAN GO TO ADMINISTERING IT SO IT DOESN'T ADD AN ADDITIONAL ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS.
UM, AND THEN YOU CAN, UM, SPEND THE REST OF THAT ON, UM, INDIVIDUALS.
SO THIS IS WHAT HUD PUBLISHES.
SO WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT LAST TIME ABOUT AREA MEDIAN INCOME PEOPLE WHO ARE AT 80% AREA MEDIAN INCOME.
AND I, I DIDN'T HAVE A CHART LIKE THIS, SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I'D INCLUDED A CHART HERE.
SO YOU CAN SEE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FAMILIES AND HOUSEHOLDS AND WHO QUALIFIES FOR PROGRAMS, HOW IS THAT CALCULATED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT? SO IF YOU LOOK ON THE LEFT HAND
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SIDE, THE MEDIUM FAMILY INCOME FOR, UM, THE DALLAS TEXAS AREA, UM, THAT HUD DEFINES IS 117,300.THEN HUD DOES CALCULATIONS BASED ON FAMILY SIZE OF WHO QUALIFIES, UM, AS LOW INCOME OR EVEN VERY LOW INCOME.
SO IF YOU LOOK ON THE RIGHT HAND OF THE SLIDE, IT SAYS PERSONS IN FAMILY.
SO IF WE LOOK TO THAT FOUR, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, A FAMILY OF FOUR, THAT COULD BE FOUR ADULTS, THAT COULD BE ONE ADULT WITH THREE CHILDREN WHO IS EARNING $93,850 A YEAR, WOULD BE CONSIDERED AT 80% OF A MI.
RIGHT? SO IF YOU LOOK A LITTLE BIT LEFT, IT SAYS LOW 80% INCOME LIMITS FOR YOUR CDBG PROGRAM.
YOU HAVE TO FOCUS ON HOUSEHOLDS THAT ARE EARNING OR THAT ARE AT 80% A MI OR BELOW.
SO THIS JUST GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF WHO WOULD BE SERVED IN YOUR PROGRAM.
THAT'S THE MAXIMUM, UH, INCOME THAT COULD BE SERVED BASED ON YOUR DATA.
YOU COULD DESIGN YOUR PROGRAM SO IT SERVES A MUCH LOWER INCOME IF YOU WANTED TO.
BUT JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THIS IS, UM, THESE ARE THE, THE LIMITS OF WHO WOULD QUALIFY UNDER PROGRAMS UNDER, UNDER FEDERALLY FUNDED PROGRAMS. SO JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, IF WE'RE THINKING ABOUT DESIGNING A HOME REPAIR PROGRAM THAT IS FOCUSED ON OLDER INDIVIDUALS, AND WE'RE UNDERSTANDING FROM THE DATA IN YOUR HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT THAT YOUR LOWER INCOME ADULTS HAVE INCOMES THAT ARE MUCH, MUCH LOWER THAN, UM, $90,000 OR EVEN, OOPS, LEMME JUST GO BACK.
IF WE LOOK AT A ONE PERSON HOUSEHOLD, UM, 65,000, YOU MAY DECIDE THAT YOU WANNA FOCUS ON, ON INDIVIDUALS OR OLDER INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE EARNING NO MORE THAN $25,000 A YEAR THAT ARE REALLY AT THAT POVERTY THRESHOLD.
UM, AND YOU COULD DO THAT, BUT YOU COULD FOCUS ON HIGHER INCOME HOUSEHOLDS TOO.
BUT THIS SUGGESTION HERE IS YOU WOULD FOCUS ON INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE, YOU WOULD GIVE PRIORITY TO PEOPLE WHO ARE 65 YEARS PLUS THEY HAVE A MOBILITY DISABILITY.
SO THEY HAVE, UM, NEEDS FOR THEIR HOME TO BE MODIFIED SO THAT THEY COULD, UM, SAFELY AGE IN PLACE AND THEY HAVE A LOW INCOME.
UM, THE DESCRIPTION OF THE HOMES THAT WOULD BE ELIGIBLE IS, IS JUST LOOKING AT SOME OF THE DATA FOR YOUR CITY, YOUR AVERAGE RANCH STYLE HOME THAT HAS, UH, 2000 SQUARE FEET OR LESS BRICK EXTERIOR.
SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH A LOT OF WOOD ROD OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
SO YOU'RE REALLY FOCUSING ON THE INSIDE OF THE HOME.
AND SOME OF THE REPAIRS THAT YOU COULD MAKE ELIGIBLE IS WIDENING DOORWAYS.
SO IT COULD FIT A WALKER OR WHEELCHAIR.
AND THEN FOCUSING ON AT LEAST ONE PRIMARY BATHROOM, BATHROOM TO MAKE SURE THAT BATHROOM IS SAFE AND ACCESSIBLE SO THE, THE INDIVIDUAL OR THE THE FAMILY COULD USE IT.
AND THEN YOU CAN PUT PROGRAM CAPS.
SO A PROGRAM CAP OF $15,000 PER PROJECT.
SO WITH THAT, YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO SERVE AROUND 35 HOUSEHOLDS A YEAR ONCE YOUR PROGRAM IS REALLY UP AND RUNNING.
SO HOW DO YOU GET THAT MONEY FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT? THE FIRST THING YOU HAVE TO DO IS NOTIFY HUD THAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN ACCEPTING THAT FUNDING SO THEY CAN DETERMINE WHAT YOUR ALLOCATION WILL BE.
BUT YOU DON'T GET THAT FUNDING RIGHT AWAY.
YOU THEN HAVE TO GO THROUGH A PLANNING PROCESS.
AND SO, UM, AS THE CITY MANAGER SAID, THIS IS THE FIRST IN, IN ADDITIONAL BRIEFING, YOU'LL HAVE ADDITIONAL BRIEFINGS.
SO IF YOU DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD TONIGHT, YOU DIRECT STAFF TO, UM, NOTIFY HUD THAT YOU'D LIKE TO ACCEPT CDBG FUNDING, YOU'LL, YOU'LL GO THROUGH A PLANNING PROCESS THAT WILL INCLUDE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND ADDITIONAL PUBLIC INPUT.
SO THEN YOU'LL HEAR FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS, DO WE WANNA FOCUS ON HOME REPAIR? UM, DO WE WANNA ENGAGE IN OTHER C-D-B-G-G ELIGIBLE ACTIVITIES? YOU'LL HAVE TO SET UP SOME, UM, FINANCIAL COMPLIANCE, UM, AND MONITORING SYSTEMS, SOME OF WHICH YOU ALREADY HAVE IN PLACE BECAUSE YOU ALREADY DO ACCEPT OTHER FEDERAL GRANTS.
YOU'LL SUBMIT ALL OF THOSE DOCUMENTS TO HUD AND THEN YOU'LL RECEIVE YOUR GRANT AWARD AND YOU'LL BE ABLE TO START YOUR PROGRAM.
THESE ARE IN SOME WAYS PARALLEL PROCESS BECAUSE YOU WANNA START, UM, SOCIALIZING THIS IDEA NOT ONLY WITH POTENTIAL HOMEOWNERS, BUT ALSO WHO'S GONNA PERFORM THOSE REPAIRS.
SO YOUR NONPROFIT COMMUNITY, UM, OR, OR OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT MAY BE FOR PROFIT BUT WOULD BE WILLING TO BID TO PERFORM HOME REPAIRS, THAT CAN TAKE A LOT OF TIME TO FIGURE OUT IF YOU'VE GOT THAT CAPACITY OR IF YOU HAVE TO TRY TO BUILD THE CAPACITY IN THE COMMUNITY OR BRING IT IN.
UM, SO YOU'LL START DESIGNING YOUR PROGRAM, FIGURING OUT WHO WOULD BE ELIGIBLE, WHO WOULD CARRY OUT THE PROGRAM.
UM, AND THEN ONCE THE PROGRAM IS UP AND GOING, UM, A GOOD THING IS THAT HUD DOES REQUIRE YOU TO AN ANNUALLY REPORT ON YOUR PERFORMANCE.
SO THE COMMUNITY WOULD ALSO BE AWARE OF HOW YOU'RE SPENDING THIS, THESE FEDERAL FUNDS, HOW MANY HOUSEHOLDS ARE BEING SERVED A YEAR.
SO WE'RE GONNA SKIP THAT AND WE'RE GONNA GO TO MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING.
THERE WAS ALREADY A FAIR AMOUNT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT ENVISION RICHARDSON IN THE HOUSING STRATEGY.
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UM, DEVELOPING MORE MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING IS RECOMMENDED.AND IT REALLY BUILT UPON THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT CAME OUT OF ENVISION RI RICHARDSON, WHERE THERE WAS BROAD SUPPORT, UM, TO CREATE MORE LAND USE OPPORTUNITIES THAT ALLOW FOR MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING TO EXPAND THAT ACROSS THE CITY.
UM, SO THERE WAS DISCUSSION IN THE, UM, THE PRIOR ITEM ABOUT YOUR FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
SO YOUR FUTURE LAND USE MAP DOES ENVISION OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY WHERE MISSING MIDDLE COULD BE DEVELOPED, BUT YOU DO HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF, UM, UPDATING YOUR DEVELOPMENT CODE TO ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN.
SO THIS IS, UH, JUST A, A PHOTO OF WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MISS MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING, JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE OF WHAT IT MEANS.
SO ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE ARE DETACH SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE ARE YOUR MULTI-STORY, MULTI-FAMILY BUILDINGS.
REALLY EVERYTHING IN THE MIDDLE IS CONSIDERED MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING.
SO DUPLEXES, TOWN HOMES, UM, COTTAGE STYLE, UM, HOUSING COTTAGE, UM, STYLE, SMALLER APARTMENT UNITS ARE ALL CONSIDERED CONSIDERED MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING.
UM, AND SO PROACTIVELY REZONING AREAS, UM, CREATING PLANS THAT ARE ALREADY PRE-APPROVED FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING AND EVEN SPONSORING PILOT PROJECTS COULD BE EVEN ADDITIONAL THINGS YOU COULD DO TO ENCOURAGE FOR MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING.
UM, AS THE CITY MANAGER SAID AT THE END OF THIS BRIEFING, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE TIMELINES FOR THOSE ADDITIONAL BRIEFINGS, BUT STAFF WOULD BE BRIEFING YOU ON THE NEXT STEPS THEY WOULD PROPOSE TO TAKE RELATED TO MISSING MIDDLE.
ALRIGHT, SO NOW LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OPPORTUNITY ZONES.
UM, BEFORE WE DIVE INTO OPPORTUNITY ZONES, I JUST WANTED TO TALK ABOUT WHY IT'S EVEN IMPORTANT, UH, OF WHY YOU'D WANT TO HAVE OPPORTUNITY ZONES DESIGNATED IN THE CITY.
UM, OPPORTUNITY ZONES PROVIDE A TAX INCENTIVE FOR CORPORATIONS AND AND ACCREDITED INDIVIDUAL INVESTORS TO INVEST IN, UH, UNDER INVESTED OR LOWER INCOME CENSUS TRACKS.
AND THAT TAX INCENTIVE MEANS ONE THAT MORE CAPITAL, MORE INVESTMENT WILL GO INTO IN AN AREA.
AND BECAUSE THEY'RE RECEIVING TAX BENEFITS, THE INVESTORS DON'T DEMAND AS HIGH OF A RETURN AS THEY WOULD IF THEY WEREN'T GETTING THAT, UM, TAX BENEFIT.
SO IT INCREASES ACCESS TO CAPITAL AND IT DECREASES THE COST OF CAPITAL.
UM, THERE ARE OTHER PROGRAMS THAT DO IT, BUT OPPORTUNITY ZONES ARE ONE OF THOSE THINGS.
ANOTHER LOCAL THING, AND THIS IS WHERE WE'LL TALK ABOUT WITH HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATIONS AND PUBLIC FACILITY CORPORATIONS.
ANOTHER WAY THAT YOU CAN INCREASE THE SUPPLY OF HOUSING IS THROUGH PROPERTY AND SALES TAX ABATEMENTS AND EXEMPTIONS, BUT WE'RE GONNA FOCUS ON THOSE TAX-BASED INCENTIVES FIRST.
SO I SHOWED THIS SLIDE LAST TIME AND WHAT'S GOOD IS THE GOVERNOR'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OFFICE HAS RELEASED A MAP WHICH DOES ALIGN WITH THIS.
SO ALL OF THESE AREAS ARE IDENTIFIED AS EITHER ELIGIBLE OR THE NORTHERNMOST CENSUS TRACKED, WHICH WHERE UTD IS IS, UM, IS IDENTIFIED AS UM, UNKNOWN, BUT IT'LL LIKELY BE ELIGIBLE ALSO.
UM, AND THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE JUST RECENTLY SENT INFORMATION ABOUT THE DESIGNATION PROCESS FOR OPPORTUNITY ZONES.
UM, IT'LL BE UP TO THE COUNTY JUDGE TO, TO PUT FORTH THOSE, UM, THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO THERE WILL BE A NEED TO HAVE A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS, UM, WITH DALLAS COUNTY.
UM, YEAH, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK ANY OF THESE ARE COLLIN COUNTY OR THE NORTHERN ONE, MAYBE COLLIN COUNTY.
UM, SO, UH, AND ONE GOOD THING IS OPPORTUNITY ZONE DESIGNATIONS WILL BE PRIORITIZED IF THERE IS LOCAL SUPPORT.
AND LOCAL SUPPORT IS CONSIDERED, UM, ADDITIONAL INCENTIVES THAT WOULD BE PROVIDED IN THOSE ZONES TO INCREASE DEVELOPMENT OR TO ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT AS WELL AS SHOVEL READY PROJECTS.
SO YOU ALREADY HAVING THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT OPPORTUNITY ZONES AND, AND THE POTENTIAL FOR THERE TO BE INVESTMENT IN HOUSING AND IN OPPORTUNITY ZONES GIVES YOU A LEG UP, UM, ON OTHER, UH, AREAS OF THE STATE THAT MAY NOT BE THINKING ABOUT, UM, OPPORTUNITY ZONE INVESTMENTS.
SO THESE NEXT THREE SLIDES ARE GONNA GIVE YOU JUST A HIGH LEVEL OF THE EXAMPLE OF HOW DOES AN OPPORTUNITY ZONE EVEN WORK.
SO ON THE LEFT HAND SLIDE, YOU SEE THAT THAT COUPLE THERE AND THEY INVESTED IN A SMALL APARTMENT COMPLEX.
THEY PURCHASED IT, IT IN APPRECIATED IN VALUE, AND SO WHEN THEY SOLD IT, IT WAS SOLD FOR A MILLION DOLLARS MORE THAN THEY PURCHASED IT.
SO THEY HAVE A MILLION DOLLAR CAPITAL GAINS LIABILITY, THEY CAN CHOOSE TO INVEST THAT MILLION DOLLARS THEY EARN ON THE SALE INTO A QUALIFIED OPPORTUNITY ZONE ZONE FUND.
IN THIS EXAMPLE, THE QUAL QUALIFIED OPPORTUNITY ZONE FUND HAS A MINIMUM MILLION DOLLAR INVESTMENT AND THEY HAVE FOUR OTHER INVESTORS.
SO THEY HAVE $5 MILLION TO INVEST.
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PORTFOLIO WITHIN OPPORTUNITY ZONES.SO THEY INVEST IN SELF STORAGE, MULTIFAMILY AND OFFICE.
SO, UH, TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF OPPORTUNITY ZONE AND INVESTMENT, UH, BENEFITS, YOU DON'T MAKE THE INDIVIDUAL INVESTMENT INTO AN AREA, YOU MAKE THE INVESTMENT INTO A FUND.
WHY WOULD YOU INVEST IN THAT FUND? SO WE HAVE TWO EXAMPLES OF A TYPICAL INVESTMENT THAT DOESN'T GET ANY OPPORTUNITY ZONE BENEFITS AS WELL AS AN OPPORTUNITY ZONE INVESTMENT.
SO IN BOTH INSTANCES, THE COUPLE HAS THE MILLION DOLLAR CAPITAL GAIN, CAPITAL GAINS ARE TAXED AT 20%.
SO IN A NON OPPORTUNITY ZONE INVESTMENT, THERE WOULD BE A $200,000 TAX LIABILITY IN AN OPPORTUNITY ZONE.
THAT TAX LIABILITY IS DIVER DEFERRED, AND THERE'S WHAT'S CALLED A STEP UP BASIS.
AND SO ONLY 90% OF YOUR TAXABLE GAIN IS, IS TAXED.
SO INSTEAD OF A MILLION DOLLARS BEING TAXABLE, 900,000 IS TAXABLE.
SO THAT'S 180,000 TAX LIABILITY.
AND THAT'S IN YEAR FIVE RATHER THAN IN YEAR ONE.
SO THERE'S DELAY OF TAXES, THERE'S REDUCTION IN TAXES.
NOW LET'S SAY BOTH OF THOSE, IN BOTH INSTANCES, THEY REINVEST THAT MILLION DOLLARS INTO SOMETHING THAT AFTER 10 YEARS HAS $2 MILLION IN APPRECIATION ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE WITH NO TAX BENEFITS, YOU HAVE THAT $2 MILLION TAXED AT 20% AND THERE'S ANOTHER $400,000 TAX LIABILITY.
SO IN THAT FIRST INVESTMENT, YOU HAVE A $600,000 TAX LIABILITY WITH OPPORTUNITY ZONES, THAT OPPORTUNITY ZONE INVESTMENT IS NOT TAXED.
THE APPRECIATION OR THE ADDITIONAL CAPITAL GAIN IS NOT TAXED.
SO YOU HAVE NO TAX LIABILITY ONCE YOU PUT THAT MONEY INTO THE OPPORTUNITY ZONE FUND FOR YOUR CAPITAL GAINS.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE ONLY LIABILITY WAS ON THE FIRST CAPITAL GAIN.
SO WE HAVE A DIFFERENCE OF 600,000 VERSUS $180,000.
SO YOU CAN SEE WHY THERE'S A FAIR AMOUNT OF EXCITEMENT ABOUT OPPORTUNITY ZONES BECAUSE IT DOES PROVIDE A SIGNIFICANT TAX INCENTIVE OR TAX BENEFIT WHEN THAT INVESTMENT IS HAPPENING IN AN OPPORTUNITY ZONE FUND.
AND THAT OPPORTUNITY ZONE FUND IS INVESTING IN YOUR LOCAL COMMUNITY.
AND JUST TO COMPARE, SO WE HAVE OTHER TAX PROGRAMS THAT PROVIDE TAX BENEFITS, ESPECIALLY RELATED TO HOUSING.
ONE IS THE LOW INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDIT PROGRAM.
AND I'M JUST GONNA, I WHAT I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT HERE IN TERMS OF ACCESS, EASE OF USE, THE LITECH PROGRAM IS A LOT MORE COMPLICATED AND THERE ARE LIMITS TO HOW MANY TAX CREDITS ARE AVAILABLE.
SO IF YOU COMPARE THE LITECH PROGRAM TO OPPORTUNITY ZONE PROGRAM, THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE IN TERMS OF HOW EASY IT IS TO INVEST AND HOW EASY IT IS TO GET A PROJECT GOING.
NOT TO SAY THAT THE LITECH PROGRAM ISN'T GREAT, BUT OPPORTUNITY ZONES WERE REALLY DESIGNED TO MAKE INVESTMENT EASY WITHOUT AS MANY, UM, REGULATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS.
BUT THAT'S WHERE THE LOCAL COMMUNITY COMES IN.
SO WHERE, WHEREAS THE LITECH PROGRAM DOES HAVE A LOT OF REQUIREMENTS RELATED TO AFFORDABILITY, UM, AND, UH, AND OTHER PARTS OF OF HOW INVESTMENT GOES INTO HOUSING OPPORTUNITY ZONES DON'T.
SO YOU AS A COMMUNITY CAN REALLY, UM, PORTRAY WHAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN AND DESIGN INCENTIVES THAT IF AN INVESTMENT IS ALIGNING WITH WHAT YOUR COMMUNITY PRIORITIES ARE, YOU'D BE WILLING TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INCENTIVES.
UM, BUT YOU CAN PROVIDE INCENTIVES ONLY FOR PROJECTS THAT MATCH YOUR PRIORITIES.
UM, AND SO THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT YOU COULD DO.
UM, THE FIRST THING WOULD BE TO DESIGN A PROSPECTUS THAT COULD BE SHOPPED AROUND, UM, THROUGH YOUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
UM, INVESTORS COULD ACCESS IT ON THE WEBSITE.
UM, IT COULD BE HANDED OUT AT VARIOUS CONFERENCES OF HERE'S WHAT THE CITY OF RICHARDSON IS LOOKING FOR FOR AN OPPORTUNITY ZONE INVESTMENT.
UM, AND THEN YOU CAN DESIGN INCENTIVE PACKAGES, LIKE I SAID, THAT REALLY HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE THINGS YOU'RE WILLING TO DO IF, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU'RE MAKING AN INVESTMENT IN MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING THAT NEEDS TO BE REHABBED AND YOU'RE WILLING TO HAVE AFFORDABLE UNITS IN IT.
AND THEN THE LAST THING ARE HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATIONS AND PUBLIC FACILITY CORPORATIONS.
AND LIKE I SAID, THE REAL BENEFIT THAT AN HFC AND A PFC PROVIDES TO AN INVESTOR OR DEVELOPER IS THE TAX EXEMPTION THAT COMES WITH THE, THE DEVELOPMENT.
SO HFC AND PFC OWNED PROPERTIES ARE FULLY EXEMPT FROM ALL ADVIL VALOREM TAXES, NOT JUST THE MUNICIPAL TAXES, BUT ALSO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TAXES AND THE OTHER TAXES THAT ARE ASSESSED ON THE PROPERTY.
UM, THE THING I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT HERE, SO WE'RE COMPARING HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATIONS AND TO PUBLIC FACILITY CORPORATIONS.
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AND THIS IS BECAUSE AT SOME POINT YOU'LL HAVE A DECISION POINT OF WHETHER YOU WANT TO CREATE, UM, EITHER ORGANIZATION, BOTH, BOTH, UH, ORGANIZATIONS OR NONE.UM, AND OUR RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT YOU CREATE BOTH BECAUSE THEY'RE DISTINCT ENOUGH THAT IF YOU HAVE BOTH ORGANIZATIONS CREATED, IT GIVES YOU THE FLEXIBILITY TO ATTRACT AND SUPPORT A WIDE RANGE OF, UM, OF PROJECTS TO HIGHLIGHT.
HERE YOU'RE ELIGIBLE AS A MUNICIPALITY TO CREATE EITHER OF THESE.
THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HFCS AND PFCS IS THEY DON'T COMPETE AGAINST EACH OTHER, UM, AT THE STATE LEVEL.
SO THE STATE HAS A CAP ON THE AMOUNT OF, UH, TAX EXEMPT BONDS THAT IT CAN ISSUE.
A PFC PROJECT DOESN'T COMPETE AGAINST AN HFC PROJECT.
SO IF YOU HAVE BOTH OF THOSE, YOU COULD HAVE TWO PROJECTS THAT ARE MOVING FORWARD, UM, AT THE SAME TIME THAT ARE NOT COMPETING AGAINST EACH OTHER FOR THAT VOLUME CAP.
ALSO, HFC PROJECTS TEND TO BE, UH, THEY MUST BE 90% AFFORDABLE.
THEY'RE OFTEN A HUNDRED PERCENT AFFORDABLE BECAUSE THEY USUALLY ARE PAIRED WITH THE LOW INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDIT PROGRAM.
PUBLIC FACILITY CORPORATION PROJECTS, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MULTIFAMILY RENTAL TEND TO BE MORE 50 50, UH, AFFORDABLE UNITS AND THEN MARKET RATE UNITS.
SO AGAIN, IF YOU HAVE BOTH AN HFC AND A PFC, IT GIVES YOU MORE FLEXIBILITY IN TERMS OF WHAT, UM, PROJECTS COULD COME YOUR WAY THAT YOU COULD EVALUATE.
AND IN EITHER OF THESE, YOU WOULD EVALUATE THE DEALS ON A DEAL BY DEAL, UM, BASIS.
SO YOU WOULD ALWAYS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY UNDERSTAND WHETHER YOU WANNA SUPPORT A PROJECT.
AND THEN IN THE RECENT CHANGES TO THE LAW, HFCS AND PFCS IN TERMS OF HOW RENT IS CALCULATED AND TENANT PROJECT PROJECTIONS WERE ALIGNED.
AND SO THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE IN TERMS OF A HFC OR A PFC PROJECT.
RENT IS CALCULATED THE SAME AND YOU CAN'T DISCRIMINATE BASED ON SOURCE OF INCOME.
SO IF YOU'RE A, A VETERAN WHO HAS A, UM, A VASH VOUCHER, YOU COULDN'T BE DISCRIMINATED.
IF, IF THAT VOUCHER IS PAYING FOR YOUR RENT, THE, THE LANDLORD WOULD NEED TO ACCEPT THAT VOUCHER.
AND IN TERMS OF NEXT STEPS, THE FOUR THINGS THAT WE DISCUSSED TODAY, UH, OPPORTUNITY ZONES, A FOLLOW-UP BRIEFING WOULD BE IN THE SPRING OR OF SUMMER OF THIS YEAR.
THE SAME THING WITH MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING.
UM, AND THEN CDBG WOULD BE SUMMER OR FALL.
AND P-F-C-H-F-C WOULD ALSO BE SUMMER OF FALL.
SO FRONT LOADING THE OPPORTUNITY ZONES, WHICH IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO MAKE DECISION POINTS.
THIS, UM, THIS SPRING AND SUMMER AND STAFF ARE ALREADY READY TO START MOVING FORWARD WITH SOME OF THE SUGGESTIONS ABOUT MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING.
SO THAT'S WHY THOSE TWO ARE PRIORITIZED.
ALL READY FOR ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE.
I THINK IT WAS GREAT PRESENTATION.
I THINK IT WAS VERY RESPONSIVE TO YOUR LAST PRESENTATION TO US, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.
UM, I HAVE A QUESTION ON, ON HFCS AND PFCS.
I RECALL THAT, THAT THERE WAS A DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE TWO, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY CHANGED AT THIS LAST SESSION ABOUT THE COUNCIL COULD APPOINT ITSELF TO BE THE BOARD OF ONE, BUT ONE WOULD BE ENTIRELY INDEPENDENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND THE COUNCIL WOULDN'T HAVE A SAY, DID THAT CHANGE? AND WE COULD APPOINT, UH, THE COUNCIL COULD BE THE BOARD OF BOTH, OR IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE COUNCIL CAN BE THE, THE BOARD OF AN HFC OR A PFC.
IT'S A DECISION THE CITY OF WHETHER, YEAH.
SO THAT CHANGED IN THE LAST LEGISLATURE, OR I THINK, I THINK THE COUNCIL ALWAYS HAD THE LATITUDE TO APPOINT ITSELF THE AS HFC AND PFC BOARD.
I DON'T THINK THAT WAS A CHANGE IN THE LAST LEGISLATURE.
THERE WAS SOMETHING, I RECALL THERE WAS SOMETHING WHERE WE WOULDN'T HAVE ANY CONTROL IF IT WAS ONE OF THEM.
WELL, THAT WAS A, THAT WAS A, ACTUALLY AN OUTSIDE ENTITY BEING ABLE TO CREATE AN HFC OR PFC WITHOUT THE COUNCIL'S APPROVAL.
SO NOW A HOUSING AUTHORITY FROM ANOTHER JURISDICTION, FOR INSTANCE, CANNOT COME INTO THE CITY RIGHT.
AND CREATE ONE OF THESE WITHOUT YOUR APPROVAL.
THERE'S ALSO, OKAY, THANK YOU.
UM, ON THE CV PG, I KNOW THAT FOR A LONG TIME WE DIDN'T ACCEPT THEM BECAUSE THERE WAS THESE SORT OF, UH, THERE WAS A BOOGEYMAN OR BOOGEYMAN THAT WENT WITHIN THEM.
CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT HAS CHANGED ABOUT THOSE GRANTS? UM, AND I KNOW THAT WE'LL HAVE A, A, A DEEPER DIVE, BUT I THINK JUST AS I'M THINKING ABOUT THIS IN ANTICIPATION OF THOSE, I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO UNDERSTAND WHAT HAS CHANGED ABOUT THEM.
UM, THAT, THAT PERHAPS WE WOULD WANNA ACCEPT THOSE DOLLARS.
NOW, I WOULD SAY REALLY THERE HASN'T BEEN ANYTHING THAT'S CHANGED.
I THINK IT'S JUST THE COUNCIL PRIORITIZATION THAT WE'RE LEAVING CLOSE TO A MILLION DOLLARS ON THE TABLE THAT COULD BE USED FOR RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF RICHARDSON.
UM, AND SO IT MAY BE WORTH A LITTLE BIT OF THE BRAIN DAMAGE.
UM, AND YOU HAVE A VERY TALENTED STAFF THAT'S ALREADY MANAGING OTHER FEDERAL GRANTS.
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YOU HAVE THE ABILITY, UM, TO FARM OUT A LOT OF THE RESPONSIBILITIES.SO YOU COULD SELECT A NONPROFIT TO BE YOUR, UM, ADMINISTRATOR OF THAT PROGRAM.
YOU'D STILL HAVE TO DO SOME HIGH LEVEL MONITORING OF THEIR PERFORMANCE, BUT YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO BRING ALL OF THAT IN-HOUSE.
UM, BUT IT, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IT'S JUST MORE A, UM, A, A, A CHANGE IN GUIDANCE FROM COUNSEL THAT WE MAY BE READY FOR IT.
IS THAT YOUR UNDERSTANDING? YEAH, NO, ABSOLUTELY.
I MEAN, PHILOSOPHICALLY, PRIOR COUNSELS HAVE, UM, UM, NOT WANTED TO, UM, UH, NECESSARILY HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE PERCEIVED RED TAPE OR THE PERCEIVED STRINGS THAT WERE, UM, ASSOCIATED WITH CBG.
I MEAN, WE'RE THE ONLY ENTITLED CITY IN THE STATE OF TEXAS THAT DON'T ACCEPT A DOLLAR.
SO, YOU KNOW, MY MY THINKING IS FRISCO CAN DO IT, AND KENNY CAN DO IT, AND ALLENS CAN DO IT.
I WOULD BE CURIOUS WHEN THE PRESENTATION COMES BACK, YOU KNOW, UM, ADMINISTRATIONS CHANGE AND THEIR POLICIES CHANGE MM-HMM
AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF CITIES THAT HAVE, YOU KNOW, TAKEN FEDERAL DOLLARS WHO ARE NOW TAKING HITS BECAUSE THEY'RE NO LONGER GETTING THOSE FEDERAL DOLLARS.
SO, UM, I WOULD BE CURIOUS TO KNOW IF THIS THIS PROGRAM WAS IMPACTED IN ANY WAY AND SORT OF WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE FOR US.
I RECALL THE PRESENTATION, I THINK ANTICIPATED MAYBE WE WOULD HIRE SOMEONE, WHETHER IT WAS A NONPROFIT OR BRING ON A NEW STAFF MEMBER AND USING PORTION OF THESE FUNDS.
AND I'D REALLY LIKE US TO UNDERSTAND SORT THE IMPLICATION OF THE, OF TAKING THOSE DOLLARS AND, AND, YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW THAT COULD BE IMPACTED AND WHETHER IT'S STEADY OR NO.
NO, I MEAN, IT'S A, IT'S A LE IT'S BEEN LESS VOLATILE THAN OTHER GRANT PROGRAMS, BUT, UM, I MEAN, YOU'RE RIGHT.
I MEAN, JUST DEPENDING ON WHO'S, UH, IN CHARGE IN WASHINGTON, THESE, THESE PROGRAMS CAN VARY THE AMOUNT OF THAT'S ALLOCATED TO 'EM ANNUALLY.
I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, MY GUIDANCE FROM THE START IS GONNA BE THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT ANYTHING WE USE IT FOR, UM, CAN EASILY BE TURNED OFF.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, I I, I APPRECIATE MAUREEN'S SUGGESTION ABOUT THE PROGRAM.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE MAY, UM, WE MAY LOOK AT THINGS THAT MAY ARE A LITTLE LESS, UM, REOCCURRING OR EXPECTATION SETTING.
UM, AND, UM, BUT AGAIN, MUCH MORE TO COME ON THAT.
I MEAN, THERE'S, THERE'S DIFFERENT WAYS TO, YOU KNOW, THESE DOLLARS CAN FREE UP OTHER IMPORTANT DOLLARS FOR US, UM, THAT HAVE MORE LATITUDE AND FLEXIBILITY, AND THAT'S A GOOD THING.
AND SO, UM, BUT YOU KNOW, I MEAN, LOOK, I, I BRIEFED ON THIS IN 20 2006 AND 2011, AND WE HAD THIS EXACT SAME CONVERSATION IN THOSE YEARS.
AND THE COUNCIL WILL TOTALLY WITHIN THEIR LATITUDE TO MAKE THAT DECISION AT THAT TIME.
MAUREEN'S RIGHT? IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT MINDSET TODAY.
AND, YOU KNOW, THEY, THINKING BACK TO THE DECEMBER 15TH BRIEFING I, I GAVE ON OUR FINANCIAL SITUATION, I FEEL LIKE IT'S, AT LEAST WE AT LEAST HAVE TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION.
I THINK THAT YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT IT IN THE RIGHT WAY, TOO.
I THINK IT'S A LITTLE SILLY TO LEAVE THE DOLLARS ON THE TABLE IF IT'S NOT GONNA BE THIS ONEROUS THING WE ALWAYS THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE.
UM, BUT TO BE REALLY SMART ABOUT HOW WE USE THOSE DOLLARS IN CASE WE HAVE TO TURN THEM OFF.
COUNCIL MEMBER CORCORAN, UH, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.
FOLLOW UP TO THE PRESENTATION.
THANK YOU FOR DIVING DEEPER INTO HOW WE WOULD STRUCTURE SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT CAME OUT OF THAT FIRST PRESENTATION LAST YEAR.
UH, IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO HAVE YOU BACK WITH US.
AND I THINK, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE, I THINK ANOTHER THING THAT WE WERE BRIEFED ON WHERE WE WOULDN'T HAVE THE LATITUDE TO APPOINT A BOARD WAS, UH, PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP AND SORT OF A SPECIAL DEAL THERE.
AND I THINK THAT MAY BE, MAY BE WHAT YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT.
UM, LOTS OF ACRONYMS AND LOTS OF DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS.
UH, REAL QUICK ON THE LOCAL SUPPORT, I MEAN, I'M LOOKING AT THE, THE WEST CAMPBELL AREA IN THAT OPPORTUNITY ZONE, I MEAN, WOULD THINGS THAT ARE THAT REALLY TARGET MORE FROM THE CORPORATION SIDE, LIKE TIFFS OR SPECIAL SORT OF REDEVELOPMENT THINGS THAT WE HAVE TARGETED THERE? I MEAN, WOULD THAT ALL KIND OF APPLY AS SORT OF A PACKAGE TO GET THE GOVERNOR TO PRIORITIZE THAT OPPORTUNITY ZONE? IT COULD.
UH, YOU KNOW, IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CITY MANAGER, A LOT OF YOUR, YOUR TIPS ARE, ARE MAXED OUT OR GONNA BE SUNSET SOON.
SO TIP MAY NOT BE THE, THE, UM, BEST THING, BUT ANYTHING YOU DO IN TERMS OF WAIVING FEES, UM, EXPEDITING PERMITS.
SO THERE, THERE ARE ADDITIONAL THINGS YOU COULD DO.
CERTAINLY TIFF IS ONE OF THOSE.
UM, BUT BEING ABLE TO SAY THAT TO, UH, THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE THAT WE'VE ALREADY ENVISIONED THAT, THAT THESE WOULD BE AVAILABLE IN OPPORTUNITY ZONES ARE GONNA BE A, A BENEFIT AND GIVE YOU A LEG UP.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS JUST WHAT, WHAT HAVE YOU SEEN FOR IN ANY OF THESE PROGRAMS THAT MAYBE RELY ON, UM, AND THIS MAY BE A QUESTION THAT YOU ARE PERFECTLY WITHIN YOUR RIGHT TO TELL US TO KICK THIS DOWN UNTIL WE HAVE BRIEFINGS ON EACH INDIVIDUAL TOPIC, BUT MM-HMM
SOMETHING THAT I WAS LOOKING AT WITH THE DIFFERENT AMIS.
I MEAN THE, THE LOWEST A MI WAS ACTUALLY LIKE, I THINK IT WAS THE, IN 2015, I JUST NOTICED.
'CAUSE WHEN I STARTED, WHEN I ENTERED THE WORKFORCE FROM COLLEGE,
SO, YOU KNOW, AS WE GO THROUGH THIS HIGH LEVEL, WHAT STRATEGIES DO YOU HAVE FOR US AS A CITY TO STRUCTURE THESE PROGRAMS TO SORT OF MAKE THEM FLEXIBLE AND KEEP UP WITH A MI INFLATION
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AS I'LL CALL IT? YEAH, GREAT.UM, BENEFIT AND A CURSE, RIGHT? THAT WE'RE IN A REALLY, UM, GROWING, UM, HIGH INCOME AREA.
UM, AND SO RICHARDSON IS SWEPT INTO THE COLLIN COUNTY COUNTIES THAT HAVE EVEN HIGHER INCOMES.
AND SO THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT.
WHILE 80% A MI IS THE MAX, YOU CAN GO UP TO, YOU REALLY WANNA DESIGN YOUR PROGRAMS TO ADDRESS THE EXISTING INCOMES AND THE NEEDS IN YOUR COMMUNITY.
SO LOTS OF TIMES YOU REALLY DO WANNA FOCUS YOUR, YOUR PROGRAM'S ON LOWER AMIS BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE NEED IS.
OTHERWISE YOU'RE JUST KIND OF GIVING ADDITIONAL BENEFITS TO FAMILIES THAT PROBABLY COULD ACCESS OTHER, UM, OTHER RESOURCES.
AND IT REALLY DEPENDS ON ARE YOU, ARE YOU DEALING WITH RENTERS OR ARE YOU DEALING WITH HOMEOWNERS? RIGHT? WE'RE SEEING CERTAINLY MIDDLE INCOME HOME HOMEOWNERS ARE NOT ABLE TO ACCESS HOME OWNERSHIP, RIGHT? SO IF IT WAS A HOME OWNERSHIP PROGRAM, YOU MIGHT WANNA FOCUS ON HIGHER AMIS BECAUSE THEY'RE MORE LIKELY TO QUALIFY FOR A MORTGAGE, UM, AND BUY A HOME IN THE COMMUNITY.
BUT ESPECIALLY WITH YOUR RENTERS FOCUSING ON LOWER, UM, LOWER INCOMES, LOWER THAN 80% A MI WOULD BE RECOMMENDED.
HEY, JOE, JUST, UH, ONE, ONE FOLLOW UP ON THE FIRST QUESTION YOU ASKED.
UM, YOU KNOW, REALLY ONLY TWO OF THE OPPORTUNITY ZONES.
ONE FULLY WITHIN, UM, WELL ACTUALLY 2, 2, 2, 2 OPPORTUNITY ZONE POTENTIALS OR POSSIBILITIES, BUT ONLY TWO PARTIALLY WITHIN A TIF ANYWAY.
AND SO I THINK WHAT WE WOULD DO, UH, MAUREEN MENTIONED A COUPLE OF COST AVOIDANCE, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIES THAT I THINK ARE, WOULD BE POWERFUL.
BUT I THINK A, A, A GAIN SHARE STRATEGY THAT WE MIGHT COME TO YOU GUYS AND SAY, SO IF WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY ZONE OPPORTUNITY, OPPORTUNITY
SO THE CITY KEEPS 50% AND THE DEVELOPER KEEPS 50 OR 50%, FOR INSTANCE.
WE STRUCTURALLY YOU GOT, WE CAN PUT THOSE INTO PLACE AND SAY, IF THESE, IF A PROJECT MEETS CHECKS, ALL OF THESE BOXES WE'RE GOOD WITH THIS STRUCTURE.
AND SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I WAS THINKING WE WOULD HEAD ON SOME OF THESE, ONLY BECAUSE, AGAIN, ONLY TWO OF THE ZONES ARE PARTIALLY IN TIF ONE, SO THAT EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE ANOTHER SIX OR SO YEARS ON THE TIFF, I JUST DON'T THINK THAT'S GONNA BE A BIG PART OF THIS CONVERSATION.
AND I ONLY, I ONLY SAID IT IN THE CONTEXT OF WHATEVER THE ATTACHED THE GOVERNOR'S EYE YEAH.
AND SORT OF A, A STATE PACKAGE IS.
BUT WHEN IT COMES TO GENERAL STRATEGY, AS WE SORT OF WADE INTO THIS, I'M ALL ABOUT THE CASE BY CASE SCENARIO.
AND THOSE INDIVIDUAL 3 88 AGREEMENTS, COUNCIL MEMBER BARRIOS.
UM, DON, I LIKED YOUR COMMENT EARLIER ABOUT BEING ABLE TO LOOK AT STUFF AND BE ABLE TO TURN 'EM ON AND OFF BASED ON THE, UM, THE GRANTING AND HOW ADMINISTRATION MAY CHANGE.
LAST THING I'D WANT TO SEE IS THAT WE GO AND HIRE STAFF AND THEN WE LOSE FUNDING.
'CAUSE SOMEBODY IN WASHINGTON DECIDED, YOU KNOW, TO CHANGE THINGS, UH, AT DROP OF A DIME.
AND THEN WE ARE STUCK WITH OPERATIONAL COSTS THAT WE, WE DON'T NEED TO BE INCURRING AT THIS POINT.
UM, I HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR YOU REGARDING OP OPPORTUNITY ZONES.
HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW THESE, SO I'M LOOKING AT THE OPPORTUNITY OPPORTUNITY ZONES 2.0 WHERE THE MAPS ARE, AND THEY'RE HIGHLIGHTED.
HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW THESE ARE DECIDED.
LIKE, HOW WERE THESE OPPORTUNITY ZONES CREATED? WERE THESE IDENTIFIED BY US, BY YOU? WERE THESE IDENTIFIED BY THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE? HOW DID WE GET TO THIS? YEP, GREAT QUESTION.
SO THE, IT'S BY STATUTE, SO BY FEDERAL STATUTE THAT CREATED OPPORTUNITY ZONES.
UM, AND IT WAS UPDATED IN THE ONE BIG BEAUTIFUL BILL ACT.
UM, SO THE KEY CRITERIA ARE, UM, THOSE TWO BULLET BULLET POINTS.
IT NEEDS TO MEET ONE OF TWO, ONE OF THOSE TWO CRITERIA.
UM, SO IT'S PRIMARILY FOCUSING ON EITHER CONCENTRATED POVERTY OR JUST, UH, GENERALLY LOWER INCOMES.
BECAUSE THE, THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THIS PROGRAM IS TO, UH, INCREASE THE FLOW OF CAPITAL INTO, UM, COMMUNITIES THAT WE'RE, WE'RE SEEN AS TOO RISKY DUE TO LOWER INCOMES FOR PRIVATE INVESTMENT.
UM, SO THESE ARE BASED ON THOSE REQUIREMENTS IN FEDERAL STATUTE, THOSE ARE THE CENSUS TRACKS THAT WOULD QUALIFY.
SO THERE'S NO WAY TO EXPAND THESE OR GROW THESE OR CREATE, THIS IS ALL OKAY.
HOW WE HEARD HOW THIS UNDERSTAND HOW THIS AFFECTS LARGE SCALE.
YOU KNOW, I'M LOOKING AT 1 92 POINT 14 ON THE SOUTHWEST SIDE OF, OF, I LIVE WITHIN THAT ZONE.
I LOOK AROUND MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND I KNOW TO THE SOUTH OF US, WE HAVE A LOT OF OLDER APARTMENTS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
OUR HOUSES, HOUSES WERE ALL BUILT A LITTLE LATE SIXTIES.
BUT THEY'RE NICE, THEY'RE LARGER.
SOME OF THE LARGER HOMES IN THIS, IN THIS PART OF THE CITY.
UM, WELL HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW THIS AFFECTS INDIVIDUAL
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INVESTORS, INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNERS, BECAUSE HALF THAT ZONE OR SINGLE FAMILY, HALF THAT ZONE IS SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.UH, HOW DOES THAT AFFECT VERSUS LIKE, WHERE I MIGHT THINK OF A COMMERCIAL SP SPACE OR A, AN APARTMENT COMPLEX ON THE FAR SOUTHWEST OF THIS, THERE'S A MASSIVE APARTMENT COMPLEX.
LIKE, HOW DOES THAT AFFECT DIFFERENTLY FOR PEOPLE WHO AREN'T INVESTING $2 MILLION? UM, SO IF WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT THE INVESTMENT, SO I, I FOCUS THE PRESENTATION ON A QUALIFIED OPPORTUNITY ZONE FUND THAT WOULD INVEST IN REAL ESTATE.
YOU CAN ALSO INVEST IN A BUSINESS THAT OPERATES IN A QUAL IN AN OPPORTUNITY ZONE.
SO REALLY THE ONLY WAY THAT YOUR SINGLE FAMILY HOMEOWNERS WOULD POTENTIALLY BE IMPACTED BY OPPORTUNITY ZONES IS IF THEY OPERATE SOME KIND OF A, A BUSINESS OUT OF THEIR HOME, WHICH PROBABLY IS NOT JUST GONNA BE, YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE PRIVATE INVESTORS.
UM, SO YOU WOULD NOT SEE IMPACT TO THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMEOWNERS.
THEY WOULDN'T SEE INVESTMENT COMING IN BECAUSE OF OPPORTUNITY ZONES.
IT REALLY WOULD IMPACT THE COMMERCIAL OR THE, THE MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
UM, BECAUSE MAYBE THE NUMBERS HAVE NEVER WORKED.
LIKE YOU SAID, THOSE APARTMENTS ARE VERY OLD AND THEY'RE LARGE.
UM, AND THE AMOUNT OF INVESTMENT THAT WOULD BE NEEDED FOR, UH, THE RENTS TO RISE TO PAY OFF THE COST OF ALL OF THE CONSTRUCTION TO BRING THOSE PROPERTIES UP TO MODERN STANDARDS, JUST THE NUMBERS DIDN'T WORK.
UM, BUT WITH OPPORTUNITY ZONE INVESTORS, THEY'RE WILLING TO ACCEPT LOWER RATES OF RETURN AND MAYBE EVEN INVEST MORE THAN THEY TRADITIONALLY WOULD INTO A PROJECT BECAUSE THEY'RE GETTING SUCH AN AMAZING TAX BENEFIT.
SO IT REALLY JUST, UH, INCREASES THE POOL OF INVESTORS WHO WOULD BE PART OF A DEVELOPMENT PROJECT.
SO YOU SAID WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT THESE DEEP DIVE INTO THIS SO LATER TIME.
SO, SO THE OPPORTUNITY ZONE, UM, I MEAN, I, IF WITH WITH YOUR INFORMAL THUMBS UP TONIGHT, I MEAN, THERE'S NO REASON FOR US NOT TO BEGIN, UM, APPLYING AND ADVOCATING FOR, UH, FOR PARTICIPATION IN THESE ZONES.
I MEAN, THIS, THIS PROGRAM IS A ZERO COST, UH, A PROGRAM TO THE CITY.
AND FOR ALL THE REASONS MAUREEN'S DESCRIBED IS COULD BE A, A REALLY IMPACTFUL STRATEGY.
SO, YOU KNOW, AND IF WE, IF, IF YOU GUYS WANNA HAVE ANOTHER BRIEFING ON THIS, I MEAN, WE CAN COME BACK ON IT, BUT ON THIS ONE, I THINK YOU, YOU, YOU KIND OF GIVE US THE THUMBS UP TO LAUNCH AND, UH, LET US GET ABOUT THE BUSINESS OF, UH, WORKING WITH THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE TO ADVOCATE FOR MY OWN UNDERSTANDING.
DON, MAYBE LATER WE CAN SIT DOWN JUST 'CAUSE I'LL BE HONEST, ANYTHING THE GOVERNOR WANTS TO DO, I'M CAUTIOUS ABOUT.
'CAUSE THERE'S USUALLY A BACKSTORY.
BUT ALONG THE, UM, WHEN I SEE SPRING VALLEY AND I SEE THE EASTERN PART OF SPRING VALLEY CLOSER 75, AND WE HAVE THOSE LOTS, WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO STUFF FOR YEARS, AND THERE'S SO MUCH APARTMENTS ALONG THERE, I, IT KIND OF RES RAISES A RED FLAG IN MY HEAD.
WHY IN THE WORLD ALL THIS SINGLE FAMILY IS INCLUDED, BUT YET WHERE WE NEED ALL THIS HELP ALONG SPRING VALLEY, AND WE HAVE THESE OLD OUTDATED APARTMENTS, FOR SOME REASON, THEY'RE NOT IN THAT ZONE.
LIKE THERE'S SO MUCH OPPORTUNITY ALONG THAT SPRING VALLEY.
AND I DON'T, WITHOUT REMEMBERING WHAT THE, THE PORTION BETWEEN WEATHERED AND WATERVIEW, WHICH, UM, YOU YOU'RE REFERRING TO.
I MEAN, EVERYTHING ESSENTIALLY WEATHERED WATERVIEW.
UM, THERE ARE, THERE, THE DENSITY THERE, SOUTH OF THE BLUE LAKES IS SIGNIFICANTLY LESS.
AND AS YOU MOVE NORTH, THE HOME PRICES ARE SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT THAN THE HOME PRICES TO THE WEST.
AND SO I THINK THAT'S WHY THAT TRACK PROBABLY DIDN'T MAKE IT IN, IS, UM, YOU HAVE FEWER MULTIFAMILY, UM, AND YOU HAVE MORE OF THE SINGLE FAMILY AT A, AT A HIGHER PRICE POINT THAN YOU DO WEST.
IT'S, IT'S BY THE CENSUS TRACK.
RIGHT? SO THEY'RE NOT JUST GOING ALONG THE STREET, THEY'RE PICKING AN ENTIRE CENSUS TRACK THAT'S ALREADY BEEN IDENTIFIED.
AND THEN, AH, IT HAS TO QUALIFY WITH ONE OF THOSE TWO BULLETS.
THAT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW, CENSUS TRACK.
IN THE ORIGINAL OPPORTUNITY ZONE LEGISLATION, YOU ACTUALLY COULD TAG ON A CONTINUOUS CONTIGUOUS TRACKED.
UM, BUT WHAT HAPPENED WAS A LOT OF TIMES YOU HAD THOSE CONTIGUOUS TRACKS THAT WERE NOT LOW INCOME AT ALL, THAT ALREADY WERE GETTING A LOT OF PRIVATE INVESTMENTS.
SO THAT'S THE OPPORTUNITY ZONE PROGRAM WAS ACTUALLY PULLED BACK A LITTLE BIT WITH THE, THE REAUTHORIZATION SO THAT IT REALLY WAS FOCUSED ONLY ON SETS, CENSUS TRACKS THAT HAVE, UM, AVERAGE LOWER THAN AVERAGE INCOMES OR CONCENTRATIONS IN POVERTY.
THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER, DOREEN.
UM, BY THE WAY, MAU, THANK YOU.
YOU, YOU REALLY KNOW THIS STUFF.
I, UM, HAVE A QUESTION ON THE OPPORT OPPORTUNITY ZONE.
DOES, UH, COUPLE QUESTIONS THERE.
DOES THAT INCLUDE, UM, IN THE EVENT THAT THE AREA'S NOT COMPLETELY, UM, ALL RESIDENTIAL AND OR COMMERCIAL, UM, WOULD THIS INCLUDE US PUTTING IN LIKE DUPLEXES AND FOURPLEXES AND INTEGRATING SOME OTHER, UH, TYPES OF BUILDINGS? UH, WOULD,
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WOULD THAT BE POTENTIALLY PART OF THE PROGRAM? OR WE HAVE TO USE THE, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S ALREADY CURRENTLY THERE? I JUST WANNA GET CLAR CLARITY ON THAT.YOU AS A CITY REALLY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT GETS DEVELOPED OTHER THAN PUTTING TOGETHER AN INCENTIVE PACKAGE FOR PEOPLE THAT WANNA INVEST IN THE OPPORTUNITY ZONE.
BUT IF IT'S RAW LAND, UH, THAT STILL IS ELIGIBLE, AS LONG AS IT'S WITHIN THE ELIGIBLE TRACT, AND YOU CAN ESSENTIALLY DO WHATEVER YOU WANT.
UM, BUT IT'S JUST WHETHER PRIVATE INVESTORS WOULD WANNA INVEST IN THAT PROJECT.
AND SO A SMALL DUPLEX PROJECT MAY NOT BE WORTH THE TIME OF A, OF AN OPPORTUNITY ZONE FUND TO EVALUATE AND INVEST IN.
AND, AND TO THAT POINT ON, COULD, COULD THIS FUNDING, I I, I DID A LITTLE RESEARCH ON THIS.
I WAS LOOKING AT THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT.
YEAH, I UNDERSTAND THAT HAS TO BE, UH, DEVELOPED AND PROVIDED BY THE CITY.
AND, AND HOW WE UTILIZE THOSE FUNDS IS ANOTHER STORY.
BUT, UM, WOULD WE BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THE FUNDS TO, AS, AS A DEVELOPER COMES IN, UM, POTENTIALLY ASK FOR, AND I'VE MENTIONED THIS BEFORE SEVERAL TIMES, ASK FOR A, UH, COLLABORATION IN AFFORDABLE UNITS.
UH, IF IT'S AN APARTMENT COMPLEX OR A MULTI-FAMILY COMPLEX, IT'S RENTABLE, UH, OR LEASEABLE.
WOULD WE, WOULD, WOULD THESE FUNDS BE ABLE TO BE UTILIZED OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO DRAW UP IN OUR CITY, UH, ARRANGEMENT WITH, WITH THE, UH, CDBG? SO, UH, CDBG FUNDS CAN BE USED FOR REHAB.
UM, THEY CAN'T BE IN GENERAL, UM, BE USED FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION.
UM, THEY CAN BE USED FOR ACQUISITION OF LAND.
SO IT'S JUST, IT'S A CORK IN CDBG.
BUT, SO IF YOU DID HAVE A DEVELOPER THAT WAS COMING IN WEST SPRING VALLEY, WANTED TO REHAB THOSE MULTI-FAMILY, IF YOU WANTED TO GRANT OR LOAN CDBG FUNDS FOR THAT PROJECT, THAT IS AN ELIGIBLE USE OF CDBG FUNDS.
SO IT WOULD PRIMARILY BE SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY EXISTING THAT'S GETTING REDEVELOPED.
IT WOULD NOT BE, HAS, IT CANNOT APPLY TO ANY NEW CONSTRUCTION.
THERE ARE LIMITED INSTANCES, BUT JUST IT, IT WOULDN'T REALLY APPLY HERE.
IT'S A, IF YOU'RE PARTNERING WITH A CERTAIN TYPE OF ORGANIZATION THAT'S QUALIFIED TO DO NEW CONSTRUCTION, YOU CAN PROVIDE THAT FUNDING, BUT THAT WOULD BE MANY YEARS DOWN THE ROAD.
BUT, BUT I THINK MAUREEN, I THINK, BUT I MEAN, I THINK AN IMPORTANT POINT HERE IS THAT THE MAGNITUDE OF THE DOLLARS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FROM CDBG WOULD NOT BE IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM IMPACTFUL IN THE REDEVELOPMENT.
'CAUSE I THINK MAYBE THERE'S, IF I, IF I'M NOT RE IF I'M MISREADING THE QUESTION JUST FINE, BUT SO DOES CDBG DOLLARS WOULD NOT BE PART OF ANY REDEVELOPMENT CONSIDERATION? UM, BUT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS, UM, THE BE THE TAX BENEFIT IN ONE OF THESE ZONES PARTNERED WITH PERHAPS A HFC OR A PFC OR A PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP MM-HMM.
UM, COULD BE, UH, A KIND OF EXPONENTIALLY POTENT KIND OF A, OF A YES.
AND SO, UH, COUNCILMAN DORIAN, I THINK I REALLY WOULDN'T CONFUSE CDBG AND OP OPPORTUNITY ZONES, BUT YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
WITH THE H FFC OR P FFC AND OPPORTUNITY ZONE, THEN YOU'RE REALLY STARTING TO, UM, CREATE, UM, YOU KNOW, INCENTIVE STRATEGIES MM-HMM
AND WHAT'S, WHAT'S GREAT ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY ZONE IS PART OF THAT INCENTIVE IS NOT OUR DOLLARS.
WE'RE LEVERAGING, WE'RE LEVERAGING THE TAX, UH, UH, UH, BREAKS AND THE TAX INCENTIVES THAT INVESTORS WOULD ACHIEVE.
AND SO THERE WILL BE A PAIRING OF THESE, IT JUST PROBABLY WON'T BE THE CDBG AS MUCH.
UM, AS IT WOULD BE THE HFC OR THE PFC.
AND THANKS FOR, YOU KNOW, PUTTING THAT INTO A BETTER CONTEXT.
UM, WOULD, WOULD THIS ALSO, UH, HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH ANY OF THE TRANSFER HOMES OR, UH, THE WAYWARD HOMES, IF YOU WILL? I THINK, UH, YOU KNOW, WOULD THIS HAVE ANY IMPACT ON SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS, HAVE SOME OF THE, UH, UH, WHAT DO YOU CALL 'EM? UM, WHERE YOU HAVE A REHAB, IT'S MORE OF A REHAB GROUP HOMES.
UH, WOULD THAT HAVE ANY, UM, NO INDICATION.
SO NONE OF THAT WOULD NO, THAT'S TOTALLY A SEPARATE PROGRAM.
I JUST WANTED TO HAVE SOME CLARITY THERE.
'CAUSE TO YOUR POINT, IF WE'RE USING EXISTING, LET'S JUST SAY A NEIGHBORHOOD MM-HMM
AND THEY'RE GONNA GO IN AND REFURB AND POTENTIALLY TURN THOSE INTO SOMETHING ELSE OR A DIFFERENT TYPE OF COMMUNITY, UM, BASED ON WHATEVER MISSING HOUSING UNIT WE HAVE, THEN ARE, ARE, WHAT ARE THEY, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE LIMITS THAT THEY CAN DO WITH A SMALL, YOU KNOW, NEIGHBORHOOD? SO WHAT, HOW CAN THEY TURN THOSE PROPERTIES INTO SOME OTHER UNIT? SO, OKAY.
UM, SINCE DON'S LOOKING FOR, UM, KIND OF A THUMBS UP ON THE OPPORTUNITY ZONE, I HAVE A LITTLE QUESTION 'CAUSE I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED.
CAN YOU GO TO YOUR, I THINK IT MAY, YOURS, YOUR NEXT SLIDE? MAYBE IT'S, IT'S THE ONE WHERE IT SHOWS THE, THE, THE, THE, UM, UM, OOPS, OOPS, RIGHT HERE.
THE CHART, I THINK BACK TO THE OPPORTUNITY ZONE SECTION MM-HMM
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SPECIFICALLY WHAT DON'S LOOKING FOR, BUT NOT, NOT PFCS IN TERMS OF ALL OF THE DIFFERENT STRATEGIES.ARE YOU LOOKING FOR THAT ONE? I THINK IT'S 21.
SPECIFICALLY THE OPPORTUNITY ZONE IS WHAT I'M LOOKING AT.
THE OPPORTUNITY ZONE, THE SPECIFICALLY THE OPPORTUNITY ZONES.
SO THERE WAS THIS CHART, AND THEN THERE'S THE CHART THAT COMPARES LOW INCOME HOUSING TAX, CREDIT AND OPPORTUNITY ZONE.
I, I, I GUESS THE, I'M, I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, THE OPPORTUNITY ZONE, WE, WE TALKED ABOUT NOT DROPPING INTO THE VERY LOW INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDIT TO BEGIN WITH.
I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, HOW MUCH, HOW MUCH, UM, ABILITY DO WE HAVE TO, TO, TO CON I, I GUESS I'LL PUT TO SAY, PUT GUARDRAILS ONTO THAT PROGRAM MM-HMM
SO, UH, TOTALLY MARKET RATE HOUSING CAN BE DEVELOPED IN AN OPPORTUNITY ZONE AND IT QUALIFIES, RIGHT? IT'S JUST THAT THE PROJECT IS OCCURRING IN THE OPPORTUNITY ZONE.
YOU AS A CITY COULD PUT GUARDRAILS TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS YOUR INCENTIVE PROJECT.
SO IF YOU WANTED THERE TO BE A LIMITED AMOUNT OF, UH, AFFORDABLE UNITS, BUT NOT THE ENTIRE COMPLEX, THEN THAT'S HOW YOU DESIGN YOUR INCENTIVE PACKAGE.
20 10% OF UNITS, THEN YOU CAN QUALIFY FOR THIS LEVEL OF INCENTIVE.
UM, CAN YOU, CAN YOU NOW ALSO, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, CAN YOU GO TO P-F-C-H-F-C THE VERY YES.
I THINK IT WAS PROBABLY ONE OF YOUR VERY LAST SLIDES ON THAT, BECAUSE I JUST HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT.
AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, NOT KNOWING WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN TO US FROM A FUNDING PERSPECTIVE.
I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, IS HOW MUCH RISK DO WE PUT OURSELVES TO DO? LOOK AT A HOUSING FINANCE OR PUBLIC FACILITY CORPORATION WHEN I, I LOOK AT THE TENANT PROTECTIONS ON THERE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE GREAT PROTECTIONS FOR A TENANT.
I'M NOT, I WOULD NEVER MAKE THAT ARGUMENT.
BUT MY CONCERN IS, IS THAT FOR SOME REASON THERE'S SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS FROM A FUNDING COMPONENT, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
WHAT, WHAT THEN WOULD WE BE ON THE HOOK FOR KNOWING THAT, YOU KNOW, NON RENEWAL OF LEASE IS ONLY ALLOWED, ALLOWED UNDER CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
THAT, THAT STARTS TO FEEL VERY, LIKE, WE COULDN'T GET OUT, WE'RE A LANDLORD.
YEAH, WE'RE A LANDLORD AND WE COULDN'T GET OUT OF IT IF, IF FOR WHATEVER REASON, WHATEVER, WHOEVER WOULD COME IN AND, AND MAKE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO IT.
AND THEN ARE WE, YOU KNOW, DO WE HAVE SOME VERY LARGE FINANCIAL, FINANCIAL, EXCUSE ME, OBLIGATION ON THIS? SO I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.
SO THAT, THAT COMPONENT OF THAT GREAT QUESTION.
AND, AND HFCS AND PFCS DEFINITELY DO NEED ANOTHER BRIEFING, RIGHT? YEAH.
I'M JUST TRYING TO, IN MY MIND, I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THAT THAT ONE COMPONENT THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.
SO YOU WOULD NEGOTIATE THAT HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION, WHICH IS GONNA BE SET UP AS, WHICH WOULD BE SET UP AS A SEPARATE ORGANIZATION, COMPLETELY DISTINCT FROM THE CITY.
UM, AND SO THE LIABILITIES OF THE HFC ARE NOT THE LIABILITIES OF, OF THE CITY.
UM, YOU WOULD THEN ON A PROJECT BY PROJECT BASIS, UM, CREATE AN ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE WITH WHATEVER DEVELOPERS WHO, WHO'S ACTUALLY GONNA DEVELOP AND MANAGE THE PROJECT TO ESSENTIALLY PUT ALL OF THAT RISK ON THE DEVELOPER, RIGHT? OKAY.
'CAUSE YOU'RE PROVIDING THE TAX EXEMPTION, THEY'RE DOING EVERYTHING ELSE, THE CONSTRUCTION AND ASSUMING ALL OF THE, THE RISK.
AND WITH A GOOD TEAM OF LAWYERS, YOU'LL, YOU'LL GET THAT WRAPPED UP AND YOUR, YOUR RISK WILL BE MINIMIZED.
BUT MAUREEN, I MEAN, THIS COULD EVEN BE DEEPER DOWN THE CHAIN OF COMMAND THAN THAT, BECAUSE, I MEAN, THIS COULD BE A MANAGEMENT COMPANY THAT IS, THIS IS BETWEEN, THIS IS BETWEEN THE OPERATOR OF THE APARTMENT COMPLEX AND INDIVIDUAL TENANTS, RIGHT? I MEAN, WE WE'RE SEVERAL TIMES REMOVED FROM THAT.
YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE CITY OF RICHARDSON STAFF DOWN IN, IN JP COURT DOING EVICTIONS.
WELL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
AND I UNDERSTAND THIS IS JUST VERY BASIC PRESENTATION THAT YOU BROUGHT, BUT SOLID INFORMATION.
UH, SO YEAH, I MEAN, DOWN THE ROAD, I'LL BE ASKING A LOT MORE QUESTION, BUT JUST FOR THE CITY BUSY FUNDING, UH, BASED ON MY, SOME EXPERIENCE AND SOME OBSERVATION, OTHER CITIES, THEY USE THIS FUND TO REPLACE, OR, YOU KNOW, REHAB THE MAIN WATERLINE, UH, UH, ON THE PUBLIC SIDE, AND THEY REPLACE THE PRIVATE SIDE SERVICE CONNECTION TO THE HOUSES.
UH, AND, UH, AND THEY, THEY DO THAT, I MEAN, QUITE A BIT.
UH, SO, SO WHY WE ARE NOT CONSIDERING THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
UH, SO IT, IT WILL BE FOR CONSIDERATION.
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FIRST, THESE WERE EXAMPLES THAT MAUREEN PROVIDED ON HOT CDPG COULD BE USED TO KIND OF PAINT A PICTURE OF THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS.UM, WHEN WE COME BACK TO YOU ON THE CDPG BRIEFING, UM, IF YOU DECIDE YOU WANNA PROCEED WITH THAT, WE, WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL RUN THROUGH SEVERAL DIFFERENT SCENARIOS ON HOW UTIL UTILIZE THESE DOLLARS.
THERE ARE CITIES HERE IN NORTH TEXAS THAT GIVE THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT TO CHARITIES, AND THEY USE THE WHOLE FULL REMAINDER FOR INFRASTRUCTURE.
I MEAN, THERE'S ONE DOWN GEORGE BUSH THAT DOES EXACTLY THAT.
AND SO WE'RE NOT PROPOSING TONIGHT, THAT WAS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF THE TYPE OF PROGRAM THAT YOU COULD UTILIZE CDP DOLLARS FOR.
UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION FROM A PRIORITY STANDPOINT.
WHAT WE'LL DO WHEN WE COME BACK IS SAY, HERE ARE ALL THE DIFFERENT KINDS OF THINGS THAT YOU CAN USE C DG DOLLARS FOR.
WHAT'S YOUR PRIORITY IF WE, IF YOU USE THIS INFRASTRUCTURE, IS ONE OF THOSE, UM, INTERESTING OPTIONS BECAUSE IT IS VERY NON-REOCCURRING.
I MEAN, YOU SET ASIDE AN X NUMBER OF DOLLARS TO COMPLETE THAT PROJECT.
IF THE FUNDING'S NOT AVAILABLE THE NEXT YEAR, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT PROJECT AGAIN.
YOU MIGHT NOT GET TO DO ANOTHER ONE, BUT YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOT LIGHTING THE FUSE ON PROGRAMS THAT SET EXPECTATIONS, UH, FOR SERVICES OR PROGRAMS. AND SO WE NEED TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.
UM, BUT THAT WAS JUST AN EXAMPLE.
WE'RE NOT PROPOSING THAT PROGRAM TONIGHT.
I APPRECIATE BECAUSE WHEN YOU PUT SOME SPECIFIC REPAIR THINGS, I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, WHY WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE OTHER THINGS THAT'S USED BY, YOU KNOW.
UNDERSTAND MANY OTHER CITIES, YOU KNOW, ARLINGTON, DALLAS,
UM, SOMETHING MAYOR PROM ASKED EARLIER, MADE ME THINK, UM, AND I STARTED KIND OF LOOKING AT SOME THINGS 'CAUSE STICKING WITH THESE OPPORTUNITY ZONES, UM, WHAT KIND OF TOOLS WILL WE HAVE OR NEED TO LAYER IN, IN LOOKING AT OPPORTUNITY ZONES? AND BASICALLY WHAT I READ IT, THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO BENEFIT THE ACTUAL PEOPLE THERE.
SO THEY TEND TO SOMETIMES, IF NOT MANAGED PROPERLY, THEY COULD LEAD TO GENTRIFICATION, THEY COULD LEAD TO, YOU KNOW, THAT THE WEALTHY INVESTOR GETTING THE INVEST, GETTING THE TAX RELIEF.
BUT WE'RE NOT REQUIRED TO LIKE PROVIDE LOWER INCOME OR, UM, ANY OTHER THING TO ENSURE THAT THOSE THAT NEED THE HELP GET THE HELP IN THOSE ZONES.
SO WHAT ARE THE TOOLS WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS IN THE FUTURE, WILL WE BE LOOKING AT, TO ENSURE THAT YES, IT'S NOT JUST THE INVESTOR THAT GETS THE BENEFIT, BUT THAT THE PEOPLE THEMSELVES AREN'T JUST DISPLACED, BUT THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY, UH, WE ACTUALLY HELP THOSE THAT, THAT NEED IT.
AND LOOKING AT SOME, SO CAN YOU KINDA MAYBE MENTION ONE OR TWO OF THE TOOLS? AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE THOSE IN FRONT OF YOU, THAT'S FAIR TOO.
BUT I'M JUST THINKING, OKAY, WHAT, WHAT OTHER TOOLS, BECAUSE I'M STRUGGLING WITH THIS OPPORTUNITY ZONE, NOT THAT IT'S A HORRIBLE IDEA BECAUSE, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT AT THE END IT JUST DOESN'T JUST BENEFIT MM-HMM
THE INVESTOR, IT ACTUALLY BENEFITS, UM, THE HOUSING.
WELL, AT THE MOST FUNDAMENTAL LEVEL IS, IS YOUR RIGHT TO PROVIDE AN ENTITLEMENT OR NOT? AND SO, I MEAN, TO THINK THAT SOMEBODY'S GONNA COME IN AND, AND THAT, YOU KNOW, SOUTHWEST RICHARDSON, UM, UM, DISTRICT FOR INSTANCE, AND DO SOMETHING BY, RIGHT? IT'S PROBABLY NOT GONNA HAPPEN.
SO YOU HAVE THE, YOU HAVE THE POWER OF ENTITLEMENT.
THEY CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT YOUR ENTITLEMENT.
YOU CAN PUT SPECIAL CONDITIONS ON THAT APPROVAL.
UM, IF THEY NEED ANY FINANCIAL HELP FROM THE CITY ON PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE OR ON THE PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT SIDE, THAT'S WHEN AS, UH, MAYOR PRO TIM RIGHTLY SAID, THAT'S WHEN YOU GET TO SET THE GOALPOST AND YOU SAY, IF YOU DO SOMETHING WITHIN THESE PARAMETERS, THEN WE'RE, UH, A WILLING PARTNER.
IF YOU DON'T, THEN YOU'RE ON YOUR OWN.
AND SO I THINK BOTH THE ENTITLEMENT AND THE FINANCIAL REALITIES OF REDEVELOPMENT IN RICHARDSON IS GONNA NECESSITATE OUR PARTICIPATION.
AND IF THAT HAPPENS, THEN WE, WE HAVE LEVERAGE AND WE CAN START TO, WE CAN START TO SAY THINGS LIKE, NO, YOU KNOW, 51% AT 8% A MI IS NOT SUFFICIENT.
WE WANNA SEE MORE AT 70% MORE AT 60%.
AND SO, UH, AS, UH, COUNCILMAN CORCORAN REFERRED TO EARLIER, UM, I THINK THE BEAUTY OF, UH, H-F-C-A-P-F-C OR THE OPPORTUNITY ZONE IS THAT IT GIVES US THE ABILITY TO GO CASE BY CASE.
UM, TO, I CAN TELL YOU, TAKE ALL OF THIS OFF THE TABLE AND JUST THE REDEVELOPMENT DEALS THAT WE DO NOW, NO, NO DEAL IS THE SAME, RIGHT? EVERY DEAL, EVERY DEAL IS DIFFERENT FOR A VARIETY OF FACTORS.
AND I THINK THAT'S THE WAY, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE WAY I'M GONNA TRY TO BRING THESE BACK TO, TO, TO THE COUNCIL IS WITH THAT FRAMEWORK OF LET'S, LET'S, LET'S CREATE THE GOALPOST, BUT THEN KNOW THAT EVERY DEAL HAS TO BE, EVERY DEAL IS UNIQUE, AND YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO WORK TO BUILD A PLAN THAT'S RESPONSIVE TO THE UNIQUE NEEDS OF THAT DEAL TO MAKE IT WORK.
AND THAT'S HOW, FRANKLY, THAT'S HOW WE DO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TODAY.
UH, AND YOUR TEAM DOES A GOOD JOB AT THAT, AT GIVING US THOSE OPTIONS.
AND I KNOW WE'VE, WE'VE SEEN A FEW THINGS OVER THE YEARS, UM, AT LEAST SINCE I'VE BEEN A PART OF THE COUNCIL.
UM, WHAT, SO, SO ALONG THOSE SAME FRAMES, JUST TO CLARIFY, BY ACCEPTING THESE OPPORTUNITY ZONES, THIS IS BY NO MEANS
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GIVEN ANY ABILITY TO DO ANYTHING BY RIGHT.TO ANY INVESTORS, NOR IS IT TAKEN AWAY ANY DECISION POWERS OF THIS OR FUTURE COUNCILS? NO, SIR.
IF THEY, IF THE OPPORTUNITY ZONE IS CREATED, UM, THEY, THEY WILL BE EVIDENT.
THEY WILL HAVE THE LATITUDE TO DO, UM, THE SAME THINGS BY RIGHT AS THEY COULD, AS THEY COULD TODAY.
SO YOU'RE NOT PROVIDING ANY ADDITIONAL AUTHORITIES OR ANY ADDITIONAL LATITUDES.
UM, AGAIN, IT, IT JUST ALLOWS US TO BUILD IN THE, UM, IT ALLOWS US TO BUILD IN THE FINANCIAL BENEFIT THAT WE KNOW THAT THEY'LL REALIZE FROM INVESTING IN AN OPPORTUNITY ZONE.
WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT A, A PRO FORMA WITH A DEVELOPER, WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO SAY, WHERE'S YOUR OPPORTUNITY ZONE SAVINGS LINE,
AND, YOU KNOW, AND, AND, AND KNOW TO FACTOR THAT IN.
AND, AND QUITE FRANKLY, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WOULD RESULT IN, UH, POTENTIALLY RESULT IN US HAVING MORE, UM, OPPORTUNITIES FOR PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS WITH LESS OF THE BILL FALLING TO THE CITY.
AND, AND JUST TO CLARIFY, BY MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT ANY OF THESE CENSUS TRACKS WILL BE DESIGNATED AS OPPORTUNITY ZONES.
WE HAVE TO CONVINCE THE COUNTY JUDGE, AND THEN THE GOVERNOR AND THE GOVERNOR CAN ONLY DESIGNATE 25% OF ELIGIBLE OPPORTUNITY ZONES AS OPPORTUNITY ZONES.
SO IT STILL IS GONNA BE A MULTI-STEP PROCESS, BUT BY HAVING A, A GUIDANCE FROM THE COUNCIL SO THAT STAFF COULD REALLY DEVELOP A, A GREAT PLAN AROUND OSIS MAKES IT MUCH MORE COMPETITIVE AS IT GOES THROUGH THE, THE NOMINATION PROCESS.
UH, ARE WE COMFORTABLE, UH, GIVING, UH, MR. MAGNER A KIND OF, SOME NODS AND STUFF? OKAY.
HAPPY TO, HAPPY TO HELP IN ANY WAY.
IT'S, IT'S ALSO INCREDIBLY EXCITING TO HAVE THE, UH, CDBG, UH, STUFF COME, UH, BEFORE US.
UH, UH, THE SECRETARY OF, UH, HUD HAPPENS TO CALL RICHARDSON HIS, UH, HIS STARTING PLACE.
AND SO I, IT'D BE REALLY COOL TO HAVE THE ONE CITY THAT HASN'T BEEN INVOLVED, UH, TO FINALLY BE INVOLVED IN, IN THAT PROGRAM.
SO, UH, GREAT TO, GREAT TO SEE US DO THAT.
ALRIGHT, MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER SIX.
UH, REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE CHARTER AMENDMENT ELECTION, UH, BEFORE,
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UH, THE DISCUSSION, UH, FOR, UH, ITEM SIX, UH, COUNSEL'S GONNA CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.UH, AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK AND, AND WORK ON ITEM NUMBER SIX.
UM, SO, UM, IN COMPLIANCE WITH SECTION 5 51 0.071, UH, ONE OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE COUNSEL WILL CONVENE INTO A CLOSED EXECUTIVE SESSION, DISCUSS THE FOLLOWING, RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY REGARDING AGENDA ITEM SIX.
THE TIME IS 8 27, AND WE'RE GONNA TAKE, UH, LET'S CALL IT A SEVEN MINUTE RECESS AND COME BACK AT 8 34 FOR THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.
COUNSEL WILL RECONVENE INTO OPEN SESSION AND TAKE ACTION IF ANY ON MATTERS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
[6. REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE CHARTER AMENDMENT ELECTION]
ITEM NUMBER SIX, REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE CHARTER AMENDMENT ELECTION.MR. MAGNER, UH, THANK YOU MAYOR.
I WANNA WELCOME OUR CITY ATTORNEY, PETE SMITH, UH, WITH US FOR THIS BRIEFING.
UH, CITY SECRETARY, UH, SEC SECRETARY, AMY IS GONNA LEAD US.
UM, YOU RECALL, UH, LATE LAST YEAR, YOU OPTED TO, UH, POSTPONE, UH, UH, CALLING AN ELECTION FOR THE CHARTER, UH, AFTER THE CHARTER COMMISSION, UH, REVIEW PROCESS WRAPPED UP, UH, WE ARE NOW, UH, PROCEEDING, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER ON THE BOND PROGRAM, UH, FOR A FEBRUARY 9TH, UH, ACTION FOR YOU TO CALL BOTH THE CHARTER ELECTION AS WELL AS THE BOND PROGRAM ELECTION.
UM, WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO IN THE INTEREST OF, UH, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE IS QUICKLY GO THROUGH, UH, THE PRIOR PROPOSITIONS THAT, UH, YOU'VE, UH, KIND OF BLESSED AS WELL AS, UH, INTRODUCE TWO NEW TOPICS TO YOU, UH, AT THE CONCLUSION OF THIS, UH, BRIEFING.
I'LL BE LOOKING FOR DIRECTION FROM YOU, UM, TO, UH, ONE, EITHER ADD, UH, BOTH OF THESE TOPICS TO THE BALLOT IN MAY.
UH, AND WE NEED TO, WE'LL NEED THE SPECIFICS IN TERMS OF THE FORM OF THOSE PROPOSITIONS OR YOUR DIRECTION NOT TO DO SO.
AND SO THAT'S KIND OF THE PURPOSE OF THE, THE FINAL, UM, PORTION OF THE BRIEFING TONIGHT.
SO AMY, IF YOU'LL RUN US THROUGH, UH, THE, UH, CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION PROCESS, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THAT DISCUSSION ON THE TWO ITEMS. OKAY.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
WE'LL GET RIGHT INTO IT BECAUSE DON WENT OVER ALL MY INTRODUCTORY COMMENTS.
SO, UH, SO I'M, I'M BRIEFLY GONNA REVIEW THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION PROCESS AND REMIND YOU OF YOUR PROCESS.
AND THEN I'LL REVIEW THE SUBSTANTIAL CHARTER AMENDMENT PROPOSITIONS AS WELL AS THE TWO NEW PROPOSITIONS THAT ARE BEING PRESENTED TONIGHT BASED ON RECENT COUNCIL DISCUSSION.
SO, RECALL THAT YOU ADOPTED AN ORDINANCE ON DECEMBER 2ND, 2004 TO ESTABLISH A CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION.
THE COMMISSION CONSISTED OF 11 MEMBERS WITH EACH COUNCIL DISTRICT REPRESENTED.
THE ORDINANCE INCLUDED A CHARGE TO THE COMMISSION AND A REPORT DUE DATE OF MAY 30TH, 2025.
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THE COMMISSION MET 11 TIMES FROM JANUARY TO JUNE, INCLUDING ONE PUBLIC HEARING.THEY REVIEWED ALL ARTICLES IN THE CHARTER.
THEIR FINAL REPORT WAS PRESENTED TO YOU ON JUNE 2ND.
COUNCIL DISCUSSED THE CHARTER AMENDMENTS AT SIX DIFFERENT MEETINGS AND HELD ONE PUBLIC HEARING.
ORIGINALLY, THE TIMELINE WAS BASED ON CALLING THE NOVEMBER, 2025 ELECTION, BUT IN AUGUST YOU WERE BRIEFED ON A POSSIBLE 2026 BOND ELECTION.
AND AT COUNCIL, UH, COUNCIL DETERMINED AT THAT TIME TO MOVE THE CHARTER AMENDMENT ELECTION TO THE MAY 26TH, UH, ELECTION DATE TO COINCIDE WITH THE BOND ELECTION AS A COST SAVING MEASURE, AS WELL AS TO AVOID VOTER FATIGUE.
SO NOW WE WILL REVIEW THEIR CURRENTLY NOW 48 PROPOSITIONS ON THE BALLOT.
10 OF THEM ARE MORE SUBSTANTIVE, AND THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT TONIGHT.
BRIEFLY, UM, THE REMAINING PROPOSITIONS ARE GRAMMATICAL IN NATURE, UM, PROVIDING CONSISTENCY IN LANGUAGE, MODERNIZING LANGUAGE, AND REORGANIZING OR RETITLING SECTIONS FOR IMPROVED CLARITY.
SO LET'S START WITH THE 10 PROPOSITIONS.
UM, THE FIRST ONE IS TO INCREASE COUNCIL PAY, UH, COUNCIL COMPENSATION FROM THE CURRENT $100 PER MEETING TO $150 PER MEETING UPON APPROVAL AND CANVASSING OF THE ELECTION.
AND THAT WILL GO UNTIL THE YEAR 2030, IN WHICH THAT TIME IT WILL INCREASE TO $200 PER MEETING UNTIL THE NEXT CHARTER AMENDMENT ELECTION.
AND BOTH OF THOSE AMOUNTS HAVE A NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT OF 70 810,400 RESPECTIVELY.
THE NEXT PROPOSITION ESTABLISHES PROCEDURES FOR RESOLVING A CHARGE OF MISCONDUCT FOR CHARTER, FOR A CHARTER VIOLATION.
WE ALSO HAVE A PROPOSITION TO ADD A ONE YEAR DISTRICT RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS IN DISTRICTS ONE THROUGH FOUR.
THAT IS A ONE YEAR FROM THE DATE OF ELECTION AND CONTINUOUSLY RESIDE IN THAT, UM, DISTRICT DURING THEIR TERM OF OFFICE.
UM, NEXT IS DEFINING THE GROUNDS FOR A RECALL PETITION.
THEN THERE'S ALSO A PROPOSITION TO ADD A ONE YEAR RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT FOR YOUR BOARD MEMBERS, AND THAT IS ONE YEAR PRIOR TO THEIR APPOINTMENT DATE.
NEXT ARE TWO PROPOSITIONS TO REDUCE THE PERCENTAGE OF VOTERS REQUIRED TO FILE AN INITIATIVE OR REFERENDUM PETITION FROM 10% TO 8%.
THE NEXT ONE IS A PROPOSITION TO REQUIRE IN INSURANCE COVERAGE FOR CITY OFFICIALS AND EMPLOYEES TO PROTECT THE CITY FROM LOSS CAUSED BY A CITY OFFICIAL OR AN EMPLOYEE.
WE ALSO HAVE A PROPOSITION TO ADD A SECTION REGARDING CONTINUITY OF GOVERNMENT.
THIS IS IN CASE OF A DISASTER THAT PREVENTS THE COUNCIL, UM, FROM MEETING, UM, EVER.
UM, AND FINALLY WE HAD ADDED A PROPOSITION REQUIRING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPT A CODE OF ETHICS AND THAT THEY REVIEW IT EVERY TWO YEARS.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THESE BEFORE I MOVE ON TO THE NEW ONES? OKAY.
SO AS DON MENTIONED, WE HAVE TWO NEW PROPOSITIONS FOR YOU TO CONSIDER TONIGHT.
THESE ARE BOTH THE RESULT OF RECENT, UH, COUNCIL CONVERSATIONS.
THE FIRST ONE CLARIFIES THE LANGUAGE IN SECTION 3.07, THAT IN CASE OF ONE VACANCY IN WHICH THE MEMBER FROM THE VACANCY CONTINUES TO SERVE, THAT MEMBER IS NOT ALLOWED TO VOTE ON THE APPOINTMENT TO FILL THAT VACANCY.
SO, I'LL PAUSE HERE FOR A MOMENT AND LET YOU READ THE LANGUAGE WE'VE GOT, UM, THE EXPLANATION, AND THEN WHAT THE ACTUAL PROPOSITION WILL SAY.
AND THESE ARE ALSO IN FRONT OF YOU.
SO TO BE CLEAR, THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS.
NOW WE'RE JUST MAKING IT EXPONENTIALLY CLEAR.
SO IT'S THE UNDERLINED PART, WHICH SHALL NOT INCLUDE ANY MEMBER OF THE CITY COUNCIL WHO HAS RESIGNED OR WHOSE POSITION IS VACANT.
THE SECOND PROPOSITION FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION IS REGARDING THE RESIGN TO RUN PROVISION.
WE HAVE TWO, TWO OPTIONS FOR YOU TO REVIEW.
AND AGAIN, THESE ARE PRINTED IN FRONT OF YOU.
THE FIRST ONE IS PROSPECTIVE, MEANING IT'S APPLICABLE AFTER THE CANVASSING OF THE ELECTION.
AND AGAIN, I'LL PAUSE FOR YOU TO READ.
AND THIS IS A NEW SECTION TO THE CHARTER ADDING SECTION C.
A QUESTION, THE SECOND OPTION, I'M SORRY.
UM, IS THIS OKAY? YOU'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THE DIFFERENT, THANK YOU.
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FOR THE SAME PROPOSITION IS RETROACTIVE, MEANING IT WOULD APPLY TO AN EXISTING MEMBER WHO HAS ALREADY ANNOUNCED OR BECOME A CANDIDATE FOR ANOTHER OFFICE.AND AGAIN, I'LL PAUSE AND LET YOU READ THAT.
SO IT'S AGAIN, ADDING SECTION C, ALL THE UNDERLYING LANGUAGE WOULD BE THE NEW LANGUAGE RETROACTIVE AT THIS TIME.
MERRILL, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU FOR COUNCIL.
WE CAN START MAYBE ON THE FIRST ONE SINCE IT'S FIRST.
UH, ANY THOUGHTS OR QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR ADDITIONAL PROPOSED ITEM? AMY, GO.
I THINK, I THINK THE MAYOR'S REFERRING TO THE, OH, THE FIRST ONE.
I THINK IT'S A GOOD CLARIFICATION.
SO I THINK DIRECTION ON THIS ONE IS ADD TO THE BALLOT, GO FORTH AND ADD IT TO THE BALLOT.
ALRIGHT, SO LET'S MOVE ON TO THE OTHER ONE.
UH, ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT KIND OF OPTION ONE VERSUS OPTION TWO AND ANY FEELINGS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER? AND AGAIN, IF YOU WANNA LOOK AT 'EM SIDE BY SIDE, YOU'VE GOT 'EM ON A SINGLE PIECE OF PAPER TO COMPARE.
COUNCIL MEMBER CORCORAN, UH, MR. MAYOR.
I MEAN, IT'S, YOU KNOW, I'M REALLY CURIOUS TO HEAR SOME OF THE IDEAS AND THOUGHTS FOR WHY THIS IS NECESSARY, WHY WE'RE BRINGING IT UP NOW AS OPPOSED TO THE ORIGINAL CHARTER DISCUSSIONS THAT WE HAD LAST YEAR.
I MEAN, I FIND IT ODD THAT THIS WASN'T A DISCUSSION UNTIL SUDDENLY IT BECAME A DISCUSSION JUST SEEMINGLY TO ME BECAUSE CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES HAPPENED THAT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, FOR WHATEVER REASON IT, YOU NOW, IT'S A DISCUSSION.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, I GUESS MY OPINION, MY OPINION ON IT, UM, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ALL RAN AND MADE DECISIONS BASED ON THE RULES AS THEY ARE NOW.
UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK IN GENERAL THIS RESIGNED TO RUN PROVISION EITHER OPTION, PERSPECTIVE OR RETROSPECTIVE IS UNNECESSARY.
I MEAN, I THINK WE HAVE COMPARED TO ALL OF OUR PEER CITIES, EXCEPT FOR, I THINK EXCEPT FOR DALLAS, MAYBE GARLAND.
I MEAN WE HAVE, UH, VERY SHORT TERMS, UM, ESPECIALLY COMPARED TO OUR COLLIN COUNTY PEER CITIES EVERY TWO YEARS.
SO VOTERS CAN DECIDE VERY QUICKLY WHETHER SOMEONE UP HERE IS NOT GIVING THEIR POSITION THE ATTENTION IT DESERVES.
SO MY PREFERENCE IS ACTUALLY TO PUT NEITHER OF THESE ON THE BALLOT.
BUT IF I'M FORCED TO CHOOSE BETWEEN ONE OF THESE, I THINK THE FAIR THING TO DO IS SAY THAT IT'S PROSPECTIVE.
UM, I WOULD NOT BE IN FAVOR OF DOING IT RETROSPECTIVE AGAIN, BECAUSE AT LEAST FOR THIS TERM, WE ALL RAN UNDER ONE SET OF RULES.
AND I THINK IT'S, IT'S UNFAIR TO CHANGE THE RULES, SORT OF MIDSTREAM.
NOT ONLY DO I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN CORCORAN, I WANT TO, UM, ADD ONE.
I DO SUPPORT ADDING A RESIGNED RUN RULE.
UM, IT WAS SOMETHING I BROUGHT UP LAST FALL.
NOBODY SEEMED, UH, AT LEAST THE PEOPLE I BOOKED, NOBODY REALLY, REALLY SEEMED TO PICK THAT UP.
BUT OBVIOUSLY RECENTLY I'VE RUN, I HAVE ANNOUNCED MY RUN FOR CONGRESS AND ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'RE DISCUSSING THIS AGAIN.
SO IT'S HARD NOT TO FEEL THAT IT'S TARGETED.
UH, I DO WANT TO CLARIFY THAT PROSPECTIVE IS WHAT CURRENT AND, UH, WE CAN HAVE OUR CITY ATTORNEY, PETE, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT CURRENTLY CASE LAW SHOWS THAT PROSPECTIVE IS KIND OF THE DEFAULT.
MEANING THIS WILL TAKE EFFECT WITH THE 27 29 COUNSEL.
NO, IT WOULD BE PERSPECTIVE IN THAT IF SOMEONE, MIKE.
IT'D BE PERSPECTIVE IN THAT IF IT IS APPROVED BY THE VOTERS, ANYONE WHO ANNOUNCES THEIR CANDIDACY OR BECOMES A CANDIDATE FOR ANOTHER PUBLIC OFFICE AFTER THAT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO IT.
SO IF YOU WERE TO ANNOUNCE ONE DAY AFTER THE, SO IT WOULD NOT APPLY TO YOU.
SO IF IF WE DO A PROSPECTIVE ONE, THE VOTERS APPROVE IT, IT WOULD NOT APPLY TO YOU BECAUSE I ANNOUNCED PRIOR TO THE LAW TAKING PLACE.
BUT RETROSPECTIVELY I WOULD NEED TO RESIGN AS SOON AS THE VOTE IS CANCELED AND IS CANVASSED IN MAY.
IS THAT ACCURATE? OR I WOULDN'T HAVE TO RESIGN 'CAUSE I WOULD BE OUT OF A SEAT.
YOU, YOU, YOU WOULD HAVE AN AUTOMATIC RESIGNATION IF THE VOTERS APPROVE A RETROACTIVE APPLICATION OF IT WAS DESIGNED TO RUN.
YOU WOULD HAVE AN AUTOMATIC RESIGNATION AFTER COUNCIL APPROVES THE AMENDMENTS.
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I ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH ADDING A, UH, RESIGNED TO RUN PROVISION.IT'S SOMETHING THAT MANY CITIES HAVE.
UM, I WISH THIS WERE SOMETHING WE WE COULD HAVE DISCUSSED MONTHS AGO WHEN WE, WE BROUGHT IN.
'CAUSE WE'RE BRINGING THIS BACK AND ADDING, ADDING THIS TO IT AFTER THE FACT.
BUT, UM, BUT I'M GLAD IT'S BEING ADDED BECAUSE I I DO SUPPORT IT.
UM, IT BEING CHANGED, IT BEING DONE IN A WAY, IF IT WERE TO BE DONE IN A RETROSPECTIVE MANNER, I FEEL THAT IT WOULD BE DONE IN A, A, A TARGETED MANNER.
I FEEL THAT IT'S KIND OF A WAY TO GO AROUND THE WILL OF THE VOTERS.
AND, UH, I DO HAVE SOME OTHER CONCERNS, YOU KNOW, ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, IF THAT'S, UH, BUT I, I WILL SAVE SOME OF THOSE, UH, FOR LATER.
UH, BUT FROM WHERE I STAND RIGHT NOW, I, I SUPPORT IT.
OPTION ONE, PROSPECTIVELY COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE.
UM, YEAH, I MEAN, I, I SUPPORT PUTTING THIS ON THE BALLOT.
UM, I DON'T RECALL YOU BRINGING IT UP, BUT SHAME ON US FOR NOT HAVING THE DISCUSSION.
THIS IS NOT A SITUATION I THINK THAT WE HAVE EVER HAD BEFORE.
SO I'M SURE THAT IF WE HAD THAT DISCUSSION THEN IT WAS, WELL, WE NEVER NEEDED THAT.
SO WHY WOULD WE, WE TALK ABOUT THAT.
UM, SO I, I THINK IT'S A MISSED OPPORTUNITY NOW THAT WE ARE AWARE OF THE SITUATION.
IT'S STARING US IN THE FACE TO NOT PUT IT ON THE BALLOT AND WAIT ANOTHER 10 YEARS AND POTENTIALLY SORT OF HAVE THIS SORT OF LIMBO.
UM, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, IT IS WHAT IT IS.
SO, UH, WE'RE HERE, WE'RE IN THIS SITUATION.
I THINK IT'S, UM, IT'LL ADVISED NOT TO PUT IT ON THE BALLOT AND LET THE VOTERS CHOOSE.
UH, I'M IN FAVOR OF DOING IT RETROSPECTIVELY.
IT'S CURRENTLY IN OUR CHARTER THAT IF YOU'RE ON A BORDER COMMISSION, YOU RESIGN THE SECOND YOU SAY YOU'RE RUNNING FOR COUNCIL.
UM, AND SO I'M, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT IN THIS, THAT SPIRIT, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, IN ORDER TO, TO, I I DISAGREE WITH THE COMMENT ABOUT IT BEING THE WILL OF THE VOTERS, THE WILL OF THE VOTERS, WAS THAT YOU SERVE OUT YOUR TERM, UM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THAT YOU NOT RUN FOR ANOTHER OFFICE.
AND SO I, I DON'T WANNA GET INTO DEBATE ABOUT THAT, BUT I'M IN FAVOR OF IT BEING RETROSPECTIVE.
UM, THE FACT THAT WE'VE SPENT AS MUCH TIME AS WE'VE SPENT TALKING ABOUT THIS ISSUE, IT'S CLEAR TO ME THAT WE NEED TO MOVE ON FROM THIS AND WE NEED TO HAVE A DECISION ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT THIS LIMBO THAT WE ARE IN.
UM, AND SO I'M IN FAVOR OF IT BEING, UH, ON THE BALLOT AND IT BEING RETROSPECTIVE COUNCIL MEMBER DOYEN.
I'M GONNA HAVE TO JUST REITERATE, UM, WITH COUNCILWOMAN JUSTICE, YOU KNOW, I I, TO THAT POINT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE ON A BOARD OR COMMISSION AND YOU CHOOSE TO RUN FOR OFFICE, YOU HAVE TO STEP DOWN IMMEDIATELY AND, AND TO THE OTHER POINTS MADE.
I DO AGREE THAT THIS NEEDS TO BE PUT ON THE BALLOT.
UM, PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN A LONG TIME AGO, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY, I SUPPORT IT NOW.
AND I FEEL LIKE IF SOMEONE IS GOING TO RUN FOR ANOTHER OFFICE NEEDS TO STEP DOWN IMMEDIATELY, BECAUSE FIRST OF ALL, THAT'S GONNA TAKE THE MAJORITY OF YOUR TIME, UH, RUNNING FOR A SEAT LIKE THAT.
IT'S, THERE'S NO WAY YOU CAN, CAN HANDLE AND MANAGE AND GIVE YOUR, GIVE CONSTITUENTS WHAT THEY NEED IN FAVOR OF THESE, UH, UH, OF, OF YOUR APPOINTED SEAT.
UM, ALTHOUGH I DO RESPECT THAT I'M GOING TO BE SUPPORTING THE RETROACTIVE, UM, I KNOW THERE'LL BE SOME ADDITIONAL COMMENTS.
UH, LET ME GO AHEAD AND HAVE YOU GO MAYOR PRO TEM NEXT, IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT.
AND, AND THEN I'LL SAY A COUPLE THINGS AND THEN WE CAN GO FOR A SECOND ROUND OR COUNCIL MEMBER
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO LEND MY SUPPORT TO WHAT, UH, COUNCILPERSON JUSTICE AND, UM, UH, DORIAN SAID AS WELL.
I THINK, I THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO HOLD OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS TO A STANDARD, I THINK WE NEED TO HOLD OURSELVES TO THE SAME STANDARD.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S FAIR AND E EQUITABLE.
UM, SO I AGREE THAT THIS DEFINITELY SHOULD BE PUT ON THE BALLOT AND I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF THE RETROSPECTIVE AS WELL.
YEAH, I'D LIKE TO GET SOME CLARIFICATION.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE ARE IN A SITUATION THAT, UH, I DIDN'T THINK THAT WE WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, FACING THIS, BUT, YOU KNOW, BUT ALSO MY UNDERSTANDING WAS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BACK THEN.
WHAT I UNDERSTAND TODAY WITH THE EXPLANATION, IF WE HAVE A SITUATION THAT MAY, IT GOES TO THE BALLOT, UH, JUST HYPOTHETICALLY AND THEN THEN THE VOTER APPROVED, UH, YOU KNOW, NOT THE PROSPECTIVE ONE, THE REC RETROSPECTIVE, THE ONE OPTION.
AND THEN IF WE HAVE A TWO CANDIDATE, YOU KNOW, HAVE INTENTION RUNNING FOR ANOTHER OFFICE, SO WE ARE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, LIKE TWO POSITION OPEN UP AND THEN WE ARE LOOKING AT ELECTION IN NOVEMBER.
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WE, IF THAT HAPPENED AFTER MAY ELECTION, SO WE'D HAVE ONE FOR SURE, JUDGE.NO, NO, WE, WE HAVE ONE, BUT I'M SAYING THAT HYPOTHETICALLY WE HAVE TWO THAT TIME.
SO WE ARE LOOKING AT HAVING ELECTION IN NOVEMBER, AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO APPOINT SOMEONE IMMEDIATELY WITHIN 120 DAYS.
WE CAN WAIT UNTIL NOVEMBER ELECTION MM-HMM
FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO DECIDE WHO IS GONNA BE THERE GONNA BE PICKING UP FOR THE COUNCIL.
YOU KNOW, MY UNDERSTANDING BEFORE THAT, YOU KNOW, LIKE, YOU KNOW, I, YOU KNOW, I SUPPORT THE PUBLIC TO CHOOSE THE CANDIDATE ANYWAY, UH, NOT THE COUNCIL.
BUT IF WE HAVE THAT SITUATION, THEN WE ARE LOOKING AT NOVEMBER ELECTION TO CANDIDATE TO POSITION, AND WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT FILLING OUT ANY POSITION IN THE MEANTIME.
IS THAT CORRECT? UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT'S CORRECT.
IF YOU HAD THAT SITUATION, THOSE TWO PERSONS WOULD CONTINUE TO SERVE UNTIL THEIR SUCCESSOR IS ELECTED OR APPOINTED, OR THEY TAKE THE OATH OFFICE FOR THE OTHER POSITION IF THAT HAPPENED, OCCUR FIRST.
SO, WHICH I DON'T THINK WOULD HAPPEN IN, IN EITHER CASE THAT I'M THINKING OF.
LET ME PROCESS THE INFORMATION.
UM, I'LL GO AHEAD AND GO TO YOU COUNCIL MEMBER BARRIOS.
OH, YOU GO AHEAD MARY, YOU, UM, I, I, I'M, FIRST OF ALL, I ALSO DON'T RECALL, UH, THE, THE FALL, UH, DISCUSSION, UH, AROUND THIS.
I, I APOLOGIZE IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT I, UH, JUST SIMPLY DON'T REMEMBER.
SO, UH, I, I THINK IT, IF IT WAS DISCUSSED THEN, THEN IT WAS AN OVERSIGHT OF OURS AND, AND ONE THAT WE GET TO CORRECT.
UM, AND, UH, EVEN, EVEN THAT OTHER ITEM THAT WE ALL AGREE SHOULD GO ON THE, ON THE BALLOT, UH, WHETHER IT WAS OR WASN'T DISCUSSED BEFORE, WE NOW SEE THAT IT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT COULD USE SOME ADDITIONAL CLARIFICATION AND IT'S, IT'S HELPFUL, UH, TO, TO MOVE FORWARD WITH.
UM, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, UH, I WOULD, UH, ABSOLUTELY AGREE THAT A RESIGN TO RUN CLAUSE MAKES SENSE.
AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE SPIRIT OF DOING IT, UH, WOULD, WOULD BE TO DO IT RETROACTIVELY FROM MY PERSPECTIVE.
UM, UH, I JUST THINK THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE KIND OF THE, THE BEST WAY TO, TO SAFEGUARD OUR, OUR RESIDENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'VE GOT EXACTLY WHAT IT IS THAT THEY INTEND.
I I, I ALWAYS FOUND IT FUNNY, UM, THAT WHEN THERE WAS A, UM, CHARTER AMENDMENT THAT, UH, MADE 12 YEARS THE TERM LIMIT, UH, THAT THEY DECIDED THAT IT WOULD BE 12 YEARS STARTING THAT DATE VERSUS, UH, UH, COUNTING PEOPLE'S SERVICE BEFOREHAND.
AND I THOUGHT RETROACTIVELY WOULD'VE PROBABLY BEEN THE MORE LOGICAL WAY TO DO THAT, BUT THAT'S JUST THE WAY THEY DID IT BACK THEN.
I, UH, I THINK RETROACTIVE FOR ME MAKES SENSE FOR, FOR A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT REASONS.
SO, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER BARRIOS, YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO.
CAN YOU SPEAK TO WHY THIS, THE CASE LAW SUPPORTS, UH, THE, UH, OUR FIRST OPTION VERSUS THE RETROACTIVE OPTION? WHAT, I'M SORRY.
SO IT, IT SUPPORTS BOTH OPTIONS.
'CAUSE OPTION TWO REQUIRES IT WRITTEN INTO THE ACTUAL AMENDMENT VERSUS CASE LAWS CURRENTLY SUPPORTING OPTION ONE.
'CAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE NATURAL DEFAULT IS.
IS THAT CORRECT? WELL, THE CHARTER AMENDMENT IS CONSTRUED LIKE A STATUTE TO BE PROSPECTIVE UNLESS IT'S CRAFTED OR DRAFTED OTHERWISE.
SO GENERALLY, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEELIE TO SOME OTHER PROVISION IN THE CHARTER TO SEE WHETHER IT WAS PRO PROSPECTIVE OR RETROACTIVE, HE WOULD PRESUME ITS PROSPECTIVE APPLIES GOING FORWARD AS OPPOSING TO ADDRESS PREVIOUS CONDUCT.
SO THE, THEN THE QUESTION WE, WE LOOKED AT IS, CAN WE MAKE IT RETROACTIVE? AND THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION WAS YES.
SO THERE'S, THERE'S NO, UH, THERE'S NO PUBLIC POLICY.
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF CONSTRUCTION.
IT'S PRESUMED TO BE PERSPECTIVE UNLESS IT, IT EXPRESSLY PROVIDES OTHERWISE.
AND THAT'S WHY IF WE DO THAT, WE WILL HAVE A PARTICULAR BALLOT AND ACTUAL LANGUAGE THAT MAKES IT CLEAR THAT IT WOULD APPLY TO A COUNCIL MEMBER OR THE MAYOR WHO HAS ANNOUNCED THEIR CANDIDACY OR HAS BECOME A CANDIDATE FOR ANOTHER OFFICE BEFORE OR AFTER THE ADOPTION OF THAT AMENDMENT.
UH, I DO WANNA ADDRESS SOMETHING THAT WAS SAID EARLIER BY ANOTHER COUNCIL MEMBER.
THE COMMENT WAS, DON'T KNOW HOW
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THEY'LL HAVE TIME.WHEN I RAN THE FIRST, WHEN I RAN IN 23, THE, THE, THAT ARGUMENT WAS BROUGHT UP, WELL, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TIME.
HOW DO YOU HAVE TIME? IF YOU'RE GOING TO SERVE ON THE COUNSELOR, IF YOU'RE A TEACHER, PEOPLE FIND TIME FOR WHAT THEY PRIORITIZE.
UH, WHETHER IT SAYS TEACHER OR AN EXEC ATTORNEY OR AN EXECUTIVE, UH, OR IN A HOSPITAL SYSTEM, YOU'RE GONNA FIND TIME.
UM, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I FEEL THAT THE, THE VOTERS OF THE CITY ELECTED ME TO SERVE UNTIL I CAN NO LONGER SERVE.
WHEN I ANNOUNCED MY RUN FOR CONGRESS, THE THOUGHT IS I WILL SERVE WHOLEHEARTEDLY THE CITY OF RICHARDSON AND ITS VOTERS AS THEY ELECTED ME TO DO.
UNTIL THAT WAS NO LONGER ABLE.
DECEMBER 31ST, I RESIGNED FULL.
I RESIGNED COMPLETELY FROM MY JOB TO FOCUS ON MY SERVICE, BOTH ON THE CITY COUNCIL AND, UM, ON MY CONGRESSIONAL RACE.
SO TIME IS SOMETHING I DEFINITELY HAVE.
UM, I AM CONCERNED THAT RETROSPECTIVELY WHEN WE HAVE THE OPTION AND IT KIND OF NATURALLY LEANS TO, TO BEING PROSPECTIVE, THAT THE, WE ARE CHANGING THE RULES MIDWAY THROUGH, UH, THE RULES THAT VOTERS AGREED TO, THAT THEY ELECTED US TO.
AND I AM CONCERNED WITH, NOT JUST AS A FIELD TARGET, 'CAUSE OBVIOUSLY I'M THE ONLY ONE ON THE COUNCIL THIS AFFECTS, BUT IT, IT, IT FEELS LIKE SOMETHING THAT IS BEING USED AS A TOOL TO CIRCUMVENT WHAT THE VOTERS WANT.
UH, I DON'T KNOW OF ANY CITY THAT HAS USED A CHARTER AMENDMENT LIKE THIS TO REMOVE A CITY MEMBER OF COUNCIL, WHICH IS IN A RETROSPECTIVE PER PASSAGE.
IT REMOVES A CITY MEMBER OF COUNCIL WHEN THE VOTERS HAVE THAT ABILITY TO DO THAT.
AND THAT IS AN ISSUE WITH PROCESS.
BUT I WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND HOW ANYBODY CAN SUPPORT, UM, WHETHER IT'S AFFECTS ME OR ANYBODY ELSE.
IT'S ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE'RE CHANGING IT MIDWAY THROUGH.
UM, NOW WITH THAT SAID, I WOULD SUPPORT PUTTING THIS ON, ON A BALLOT, BUT I FEEL A REALLY NASTY AND TARGETED WAY TO, TO, TO GO ABOUT IT.
I JUST, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT, TO ADD TO SOMETHING THAT, UH, COUNCILMAN BARRIOS JUST SAID, YOU KNOW, WHAT MAKES A GOOD CITY COUNCIL MEMBER? IS IT DOING YOUR READINGS? IS IT ATTENDING ALL THE RIBBON CUTTINGS? IS IT GOING TO ALL THE CHAMBER EVENTS? I THINK EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US UP HERE WOULD HAVE A DIFFERENT ANSWER WHEN WE GET INTO THE SPECIFICS.
AND SO TO SAY THAT ONE INDIVIDUAL DOESN'T HAVE TIME TO BE ON CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE OF THIS DECISION THAT, THAT HE'S MADE, I THINK IS, IS NOT A GOOD ARGUMENT.
I THINK THE ONLY LEGITIMATE ARGUMENT THAT I'VE HEARD IS THE FACT THAT OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS HAVE TO DO THIS.
IT'S STILL NOT ENOUGH TO SWAY ME, BUT I WILL CONCEDE THAT IT'S THE ONLY LEGITIMATE ARGUMENT I'VE HEARD FOR THIS.
AND THEY ARE APPOINTED, NOT ELECTED.
UH, ARE WE READY FOR THAT? I'D LIKE US TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE DISCUSSION.
UH, BUT I, I, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO HAVE A MOTION ONCE, ONCE WE'RE ALL THE WAY TO THE END, AND MAYBE WE ARE VERY CLOSE, UH, TO THE END.
I, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WOULD HAVE A MOTION, WOULD WE? UH, ULTIMATELY, UH, MAYOR, IF YOU, IF YOU WANT TO JUST, UH, USE THE SAME LANGUAGE AROUND THE, THE, THE, UH, BOND PROGRAM, JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, MOTION TO CREATE A RESOLUTION, IT'S DIRECTION.
I WANNA MAKE A, CAN I, CAN I ASK, ASK A QUESTION? YEAH.
BUT BEFORE WE, BEFORE YOU DO, UH, I'VE GOT A QUICK, QUICK POINT, AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL MOVE RIGHT ON TO YOU.
UM, UH, I KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M CURIOUS ABOUT AND, UM, UH, IS, UH, MAKING SURE THAT WHATEVER LANGUAGE WE DO APPROVE OR THAT WE AGREE, UH, OVERALL TO, TO MOVE FORWARD WITH, UH, THAT WE MAKE SURE TO EXEMPT, UH, SCENARIOS WHERE A COUNCIL MEMBER RUNS FOR ANOTHER COUNCIL SEAT OR RUNS FOR MAYOR.
UH, THE LAST THING I WANT IS IF WE HAVE ONE OR TWO OF OUR FINE COUNCIL MEMBERS DECIDE TO RUN FOR MAYOR AND ANNOUNCE IT, UH, FOR THEM TO ALSO HAVE TO RESIGN FROM THE SEAT, UM, UH, SO TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU CAN FIND LANGUAGE THAT CAN DETERMINE HOW THAT CAN BE DONE, I THINK ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF COUNCIL OR MAYOR, UH, WOULD, WOULD DEFINITELY APPLY FROM MY PERSPECTIVE.
UH, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW EVERYONE ELSE FEELS ABOUT THAT, BUT I'D LOVE TO KIND OF HEAR ANY DESCENDING, UH,
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DISSENTING ARGUMENTS AGAINST THAT.BUT, UH, THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY EXCEPTION THAT I WOULD, I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE WITH.
NO, I MEAN, JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, THE SAME, SAME NOTE.
UH, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANNA PUT SOMETHING ON THE BALLOT OR DO SOMETHING THAT WILL CREATE ANOTHER TRIGGER, ANOTHER ISSUE.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS, THAT'S WHY IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S BETTER.
ALSO IMPORTANT NOT TO MAKE RULE.
WE LOOK FOR OUR STATE LEGISLATOR NOT TO COME AND MAKE RULES ON EVERYTHING, BECAUSE SITUATION CHANGE, SCENARIO CHANGE.
BY PUTTING ONE ISSUE, CREATING ONE ORDINANCE, WE ARE CREATING OTHER ISSUE.
SO I WISH WE DIDN'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS, WILL YOU, YOU KNOW, USE SOME OF THE COMMON SENSE TO MOVE FORWARD.
BUT YES, I AGREE WITH, UH, THE MAYOR TO MAKE SURE THAT THE LANGUAGE DOES NOT CREATE PROBLEM DOWN THE ROAD.
MAYOR, OBVIOUSLY I SEE WHERE THIS IS GOING.
I ASK THAT AT THE VERY LEAST THIS BE THAT THIS MOVE FORWARD ANOTHER WEEK OR TWO TO GIVE THE PUBLIC INPUT.
UH, THIS FEELS, THIS WAS OBVIOUSLY NOT DIRECTLY ON THE AGENDA.
IT HAS GREAT CONSEQUENCE TO, TO THE RIGHTS OF THE VOTERS, TO THEIR SAY IN THE PREVIOUS ELECTION.
AND I ASK THAT YOU GUYS, AT LEAST AT THE VERY LEAST, TAKE PUBLIC INPUT ABOUT THIS, UH, THIS, THIS, THIS, BY NOT TAKING PUBLIC INPUT, BY NOT PLACING THIS ITEM ON THE AGENDA DIRECTLY.
UM, YOU KNOW, I I, I THINK IT MAY OPEN US UP FOR QUESTIONS ABOUT WHETHER DUE PROCESS WAS DONE IN THIS.
AND, UM, I, I DON'T, I DON'T WANT THAT TO BECOME AN ISSUE FOR THE CITY IN THE FUTURE.
I DEFINITELY DON'T WANT TO BE A PART OF THAT.
UM, BUT SO PLEASE CONSIDER MOVING THIS SO THAT AT LEAST THE PUBLIC HAS TIME TO COMMENT, UM, ON, ON THIS BEING ADDED.
'CAUSE AGAIN, WE HAVEN'T ADDED ANYTHING TO WHAT WAS CAME OUT OF THE CHARTER.
IT WAS SOMETHING WE DISCUSSED MONTHS AGO.
UM, AND NOW THIS, THIS WAS ADDED AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GONNA BE ADDED IN A RETROSPECTIVE POSITION, WHICH HENCE WE'LL REMOVE A SITTING COUNCILMAN.
UH, I, I, WE'RE NOT TAKING ANY ACTION THIS EVENING OTHER THAN TO, UH, ASK FOR A, UH, A RESOLUTION TO AT LEAST BE PRODUCED FOR US TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER.
SO THERE'LL BE, THERE'LL BE TIME FOR PEOPLE TO COME BACK AND VOICE THEIR OPINIONS OKAY.
AND WRITE EMAILS AND DO ALL THOSE THINGS AS WELL.
ANDRE, I JUST SAW YOUR LIGHT WAS ON, SO YEAH.
I'M, I'M, I'M TO, YOU WANNA MOVE FORWARD WITH A, A RESOLUTION MOVE FORWARD AS WELL.
HOWEVER, HOWEVER I NEED TO SURE.
WHATEVER, WHATEVER WORDING I NEED TO SAY THAT'S APPROPRIATE.
TO SAY THAT WE WANNA MOVE FORWARD.
SO THE CONSENSUS IS WE WILL, UH, DRAFT A RESOLUTION FOR YOUR FEBRUARY 9TH MEETING.
IT'LL INCLUDE THE, UH, FIRST, UM, A TWEAK TO, UM, THE SECTION WE IDENTIFIED.
IT'LL INCLUDE THE RETROACTIVE, UH, OPTION WITH, UH, LANGUAGE THAT, UH, CLARIFIES THAT A COUNCIL MEMBER OR A MAYOR, UH, WHO RUNS FOR ANOTHER SEAT ON THE COUNCIL OR MAYOR, UH, DOES NOT HAVE TO RESIGN.
UH, THAT SOUNDS, THAT SOUNDS GREAT.
AND, AND I JUST, BEFORE WE CLOSE OUT THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC, I WANNA, UH, AT LEAST STATE FOR THE RECORD THAT THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO, UH, WITH ANY PARTICULAR PERSON WHO HAS DECIDED TO RUN FOR OFFICE.
IT'S ONLY CREATED AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE YOU ACTUALLY HAD TO THINK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN SOMEONE RUNS FOR OFFICE AND AGREE.
AND SO, UH, I JUST WANNA MAKE THAT, UH, CLEAR.
[10. REPORT ON ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST]
ARE NO OTHER COMMENTS, WE CAN MOVE ON TO, UH, ITEM NUMBER 10, WHICH IS A REPORT ON ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST.AND MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHIN RIDER, YOU HAD SOMETHING OF COMMUNITY INTEREST.
UM, THE MAYOR AFFORDED ME A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY.
UM, YESTERDAY I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEND, UM, TIME WITH THE JAPAN AMERICAN SOCIETY OF DALLAS-FORT WORTH.
AND THEY HAD IT THEIR ANNUAL, I'M GONNA TRY THIS.
'CAUSE I TRIED IT THREE TIMES YESTERDAY, AND I THINK I GET PRETTY CLOSE.
AND IT WAS HELD AT THE UTD CROW COLLECTION, AN AUM.
UM, THEY ANNOUNCED YESTERDAY, AND THIS IS THEIR CELEBRATION FOR, UM, THE NEW YEAR.
AND THIS IS WHERE THEY COME TOGETHER, CELEBRATE THE NEW YEAR, AND ACTUALLY CREATE MOCHI.
UM, AND IF YOU NOT, NOT HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THAT, NUMBER ONE IS DO, DO, MAKE SURE YOU DO ARM DAY BEFORE YOU GO BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA WEAR YOUR ARMS OUT.
UM, MY, UM, SAM SHO, WHO IS THE HONORARY COUNCIL OF JAPAN AND DALLAS AND I, UM, WORKED ON THE MOCHI FOR A PROBABLY GOOD 20
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MINUTES, POUNDING IT, UM, TO GET IT TO WHERE IT WAS READY TO BE, BEEN, UM, PROCESSED AND SERVED.UM, BUT IT WAS AN ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL, UM, EVENT.
AND I WANT TO, I REALLY WANT TO THANK UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AT, AT DALLAS, AND SPECIFICALLY THE, UM, UTE CROW COLLECTION, ANTHONY A BECAUSE THEY'VE NOW STATED THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE WHERE THEY HAVE THE EVENT.
THEY, THEY'VE BEEN KIND OF, UM, UM, DIDN'T HAVE A PLACE WHERE THEY COULD HAVE IT.
UM, AND THE UNI, UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS DALLAS STEPPED UP AND ANNOUNCED YESTERDAY THAT THIS WOULD NOW BE AN ANNUAL EVENT AT THE UNIVERSITY.
AND IT WAS AN ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL EVENT.
HAD A GREAT, GREAT, UM, SHOWING, UM, QUITE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE SHOWED UP.
AND I JUST WANNA THANK THE MAYOR FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO REPRESENT, UM, HIM AND THE CITY AND, AND ALL OF US AT AN INCREDIBLE EVENT YESTERDAY.
IT'S SOMETHING I'D I'D NEVER PARTICIPATED IN AND NEVER SEEN, BUT I DO IT AGAIN IN A HEARTBEAT.
I I, I DID A MONTH WORTH OF, UH, UPPER BODY JUST TO GET READY FOR IT.
AND THEN, AND THEN I WASN'T ABLE TO, I WASN'T ABLE TO WORK ON IT.
SO, UH, I'M, I'M SAD THAT I MISSED IT.
UH, LAST FRIDAY, I, I ATTENDED, UH, THE MONTHLY D-E-R-M-C MEETING, UH, DALLAS REGIONAL MOBILE COALITION AND RECEIVED, UM, UH, STATUS FROM DIFFERENT AGENCY AMONG THEM WAS ALSO TECH START THERE.
SO I ASKED THEM QUESTION ABOUT 75 WHEN THEY WOULD BE DONE CONSTRUCTION BETWEEN 6 35 AND GEORGE BUSH.
SO, AND I WAS ASSURED MULTIPLE TIMES THAT CONSTRUCTIONS SHOULD BE DONE WAY BEFORE OR BY THIS FALL, UH, 2026.
SO JUST TO SHARE THIS INFORMATION THAT JUST, UH, HANG ON.
AND, AND THAT'S FOR THE, UM, THE PILE ON THAT TECHNOLOGY LEADS THE MIDDLE LANE.
SO IT SHOULD BE ALL CLEAR BY THAT TIME.
WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO CELEBRATE METHODIST RICHARDSON HOSPITALS NEW AMBULATORY SURGICAL CENTER, UH, THIS PAST TUESDAY.
CONGRATULATIONS, UH, TO METHODIST RICHARDSON FOR, UM, THAT BIG PROJECT AND, AND OPENING THAT UP.
UH, IT WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT I SAW, UH, A PERSON CUT A RIBBON AND THEN RAISE THE, THE SCISSORS.
AND I, I DID SEE AN OUTTAKE PHOTO THAT I DON'T THINK WILL MAKE THE PUBLIC EYE, WHERE YOU SEE ME QUITE QUITE CONCERNED ABOUT THE SORT OF DAMOCLES THAT WAS, THAT WAS PERHAPS GONNA COME DOWN ON ME, HAD HE, UH, LET GO OF THE SCISSORS.
UM, I, I DID HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY, UH, LATE LAST WEEK, UM, TO, UH, SPEND SOME TIME AT, I THINK IT'S PHILOS HEALTH LAB.
UH, THEY WERE CELEBRATING THEIR SECOND, UH, ANNIVERSARY, BUT, UH, MORE IMPORTANTLY, THEY WERE ALSO CELEBRATING, UH, A, A SUCCESSFUL ROUND OF, OF ADDITIONAL FUNDING.
UH, THEY'RE A, A BIOTECH HEALTH TECH, UH, TYPE COMPANY HERE IN RICHARDSON.
AND, UM, UH, ACTUALLY, UH, UH, TRAVELED OVER TO, THEY TRAVELED OVER TO, UM, UH, SILICON VALLEY TO, UH, RECEIVE THAT ROUND OF FUNDING.
AND WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THE FACT THAT THEY'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO EXPAND.
UM, SO WE CAN NOW, UM, BE THANKED BY SAN FRANCISCO THAT WE ARE SENDING BIOTECH TO THEM, BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA OPEN ONE OF THEIR OFFICES THERE IN SAN FRANCISCO, UH, OR SF AS I'VE BEEN TOLD.
IT'S, UH, UH, MORE COMMONLY CALLED BY THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE.
SO THAT SAID, I'VE GOT NOTHING ELSE, UH, AND, UH, WITH NO FURTHER BUSINESS, UH, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED AT 9:32 PM.