* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. TODAY [00:00:01] IS THURSDAY, JUNE 22ND. [Community Inclusion and Engagement Commission on January 22, 2026. ] THE TIME IS 6:30 PM I AM RASHMI VARMA, CHAIR OF THE COMMISSION, AND I'LL CHAIR THE MEETING THIS EVENING. UH, BEFORE WE GO ON WITH THE REST OF THE AGENDA, I'D LIKE TO WISH EVERYBODY, UH, HAPPY NEW YEAR. AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO WELCOME A NEW MEMBERS, VICTORIA AND GILDO. I DO WANNA GO AROUND THE TABLE AND HAVE EVERYBODY INTRODUCE THEMSELVES SO THAT WE CAN GET THEIR INTRODUCTION AND THEY CAN SEE WHO ELSE IS ON THE TABLE WITH THEM. SO WE CAN START WITH AUDREY. UM, AUDREY, I'M AUDREY ELLIS, AND, UM, I'VE BEEN ON THIS COMMISSION SINCE, UH, ITS INCEPTION. I WAS ALSO ON THE LIBRARY BOARD FOR A WHILE. I'M AMY. AND, UM, I GUESS AS OF TODAY, I'M NO LONGER THE NEWEST NEW . UM, SO YEAH, I JOINED IN MAY. UM, I WANNA SAY, SO YEAH, HAPPY TO MEET Y'ALL. YES, THANK YOU. OH, MY NAME IS HILARD RA. IT'S MY FIRST MEETING, AND I'M SUPER EXCITED TO JOIN YOU AND TO MEET ALL OF YOU. AND, EH, ALWAYS WITH INTENTION TO CREATE NEW POSSIBILITIES, SEE THINGS FROM DIFFERENT ANGLES. UM, MY BACKGROUND IS IN, UM, POLITICAL SCIENCE, BUT ALL MY EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN IN BUSINESS. UM, I'M A, A BUSINESS OWNER. WE MANUFACTURE IN PANDAS. WE HAVE A KITCHEN IN GARLAND. MM-HMM . AND WE, WE SELL THEM AT THE RICHARD AND FARMERS MARKET ON SATURDAYS, SUNDAYS IN FLOWER MOUND THROUGH THE WEEK. WE SERVE, UH, TWO DIFFERENT, UH, FORTUNE 500 COMPANIES, UH, TO OUR PANS, POP UPS TO THEM, LIKE , GOLDMAN SACHS, I MEAN, LIKE DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT COMPANIES. UM, SO I HAVE THAT MIX OF ENTREPRENEURIAL SPIRIT WITH, UH, THAT POLITICAL SCIENCE KICK . UM, I LOVE, UM, WELL, I USED TO PLAY WAR POLO IN MEXICO. I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN, IN MEXICO, EH, AND I USED TO BE A PROFESSIONAL WAR POLO PLAYER. EH, RIGHT NOW I'M A MASTER SWIMMER, UH, , USUALLY SWIMMING AT SMU. MM-HMM . UH, AND I LOVE SWIMMING, SO. MM-HMM . YOU PROBABLY, YOU'RE GONNA START HEARING A LOT OF IDEAS ABOUT HOW CAN WE TAKE HANDS INSIDE OUR COMMUNITY TO, TO PRACTICE MORE, EH, EH, SWIMMING AND AQUATIC SPORTS, EH, AND THAT'S ALL ABOUT, THAT'S WONDER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THAT'S GREAT. UM, I'M ISH, UM, HAPPY TO BE HERE. UM, I ALSO LIKE EMPANADAS, SO , VERY ACCOMMODATING, UH, MISSION HERE. UM, AND, UH, ENJOYED WORKING WITH EVERYBODY FOR ALL, YOU KNOW, WE'VE COME THIS FAR. WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT WE CAN DO. UM, JENNIFER JUSTICE, THE CITY COUNCIL, AND SO EXCITED FOR OUR TWO NEW MEMBERS HERE. THANK YOU FOR INTERVIEWING AND WANTING TO BE A PART OF THIS. AND I'M GREG SOWELL. I'M THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNICATIONS AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WITH THE CITY. AND SO, BASICALLY, UH, ONE OF MY, WE'RE I'M ONE OF THE STAFF LIAISONS FOR THIS COMMISSION, AND ONE OF MY PRIMARY ROLES IS TO REALLY HELP IMPLEMENT YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN. AND WE'RE, WE'LL BE GOING OVER SOME OF THE TACTICS RELATED TO THAT HERE IN A MOMENT. I DID SEND, JUST FOR EVERYBODY'S KNOWLEDGE, I DID SEND OUR NEW MEMBERS THE COPY OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND TO, TO GIVE THEM, YOU KNOW, HELP, HELP GET YOU GUYS UP TO SPEED WITH WHERE WE'RE AT. AND, UH, AS A NOTE, WE ARE AS OF TODAY, UH, RECORDING ALL OF OUR MEETINGS. THIS IS FOR EVERYBODY RECORDING OUR MEETINGS TOO. SO, AND THAT'S ALSO THROUGH MY DEPARTMENT, UH, AS WELL AS, UH, WORKING WITH ALL OF OUR OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND DOING THE WORK. BUT ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE, FEEL FREE TO SEND 'EM MY WAY. UM, AND I'VE ALREADY PUT IN SOME OTHER NOTES AGAIN, THAT ARE, OTHER MEMBERS ARE AWARE OF. BUT, UH, YOU GUYS WILL NOTE THAT I NEVER CARBON COPY EVERYBODY ON EMAILS. I ALWAYS B CC. AND SO, UM, BUT ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE, YOU COULD JUST SEND IT DIRECTLY TO ME. AND THEN ANYTHING THAT COMES BEFORE THE COMMISSION, WE'LL TALK ABOUT IN HERE. YES. THANKS, GREG. MY NAME IS RASHMI WMA. I'M THE CHAIR OF THIS COMMISSION, UH, AND JUST LIKE AUDREY AND HISHAM AND, UH, UH, RAJ AND KRISTEN, WE'VE BEEN PART OF, I'VE BEEN PART OF THE INCEPTION OF THIS COMMISSION. UH, SO WE HAD A CHANCE TO WORK ON THE TACTICS, THE VISION, MISSION FOR THE, FOR, FOR THE GROUP. UM, UM, UH, MY BACKGROUND, I, I'VE BEEN HERE IN THE CITY OF RICHARDSON FOR ABOUT 25 YEARS NOW. UH, CAME HERE TO WORK FOR A COMPANY CALLED FUJITSU. EVENTUALLY ENDED UP, UH, LIVING HERE, STARTING MY FA STARTING A FAMILY. MY KIDS, UH, GREW UP HERE. UM, UH, I'M AN, I'M A SERIAL ENTREPRENEUR MYSELF, SO, SO VERY MUCH WITH THE ENTREPRENEUR, ENTREPRENEURIAL SPIRIT. UH, I WORK IN, UH, QUANTUM SCIENCES, SO MY BACKGROUND IS MOSTLY TECHNOLOGY. I'M A TECHNOLOGIST. [00:05:01] UM, AND I WAS VERY HAPPY TO HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY THROUGH. I CAME THROUGH LEADERSHIP RICHARDSON AND LEARNED A LOT ABOUT THE CITY. MM-HMM . AND THIS HAPPENED LIKE TWO DECADES AFTER I'D BEEN IN THE CITY. SO , IT WAS ALMOST LIKE I LIVED UNDER A ROCK UNTIL THEN. DIDN'T KNOW A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT THE CITY WAS DOING. AND THROUGH THIS COMMISSION AS WELL, I HAVE, UH, I, I THINK IT'S, I I HAVE BEEN GROWING MY OWN LEARNING, UH, MORE SO THAN, UM, ALSO OBVIOUSLY WORKING WITH THESE COMMISSION MEMBERS TO CONTRIBUTE TOWARDS THE CITY, BUT I, I THINK I'VE RECEIVED MORE THAN I HAVE ACTUALLY GIVEN TO THE CITY SO FAR. SO, SO THIS IS OUR, THIS IS MY WAY OF, UM, TRYING TO DO SOMETHING FOR THE CITY NOW. MM-HMM . UM, HI, I'M KRISTEN CAESAR, LIKE RASHMI SAID. UM, I STARTED WHEN THE, AND WITH THE INCEPTION OF THIS COMMISSION, UM, I GREW UP HERE IN RICHARDSON. UM, SO IN MY, AFTER MOVING AROUND QUITE A BIT, CAME BACK TO RAISE OUR CHILDREN HERE. AND, UM, I TRY TO DO THE GROUP JUSTICE WHEN RASHMI IS OUT BY THE GAVEL AND MAKING SURE THAT I DO MY BEST TO FILL HER, HER VERY BIG SHOES WHEN SHE IS OUT. BUT AGAIN, DELIGHTED TO HAVE YOU ALL JOINING US. SO I'M S BEEN IN RICHARDSON FOR THE PAST, UH, 25 YEARS, SO SAME AS RASHMI. UH, I'M IN THE SEMICONDUCTOR INDUSTRY. AND, UM, FOUR KIDS, THREE OF THEM HAVE LEFT HOME NOW IN COLLEGE, ONLY ONE LEFT. SO OUR HOME IS REALLY QUIET NOW, . BUT, UM, OVER THE YEARS I'VE SEEN RICHARDSON REALLY GROW AND CHANGE. I MEAN, IT'S AMAZING WHEN I LOOK AT OUR CITY, HOW IT WAS 25 YEARS AGO TO WHAT IT IS NOW, HUGE NUMBER OF CHANGES THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE. AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, WHEN I SAW THIS COMMISSION BEING SET UP, I WAS LIKE, I THINK IT'S TIME FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS TO COME UP. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN WONDERFUL WORKING WITH THE FOLKS WE HAVE HAD. I, I THINK WHEN WE STARTED, THERE WAS ALWAYS THIS IDEA, WE GONNA GEL WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN MM-HMM . BUT IT WAS AMAZING HOW WELL WE JELLED AND, UH, WE WERE ABLE TO PUT THINGS IN, UH, YOU KNOW, PERSPECTIVE. AND, UH, WHAT I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO IS, AGAIN, THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WORKING RELATIONSHIP THAT WILL ALLOW US TO MOVE TO THE NEXT LEVEL. AWESOME. HELLO EVERYONE. I'M VICTORIA HORTMAN. FIRST I'M VERY EXCITED TO BE HERE. I AM NEW TO THE CITY OF RICHARDSON, NEW TO TEXAS AS WELL, BUT I'VE BEEN IN TEXAS FOR ABOUT THREE YEARS. UH, WAS IN, UM, UP NORTH A LITTLE BIT IN MCKINNEY AND ALLEN, BUT AS SOON AS I MOVED TO RICHARDSON, I IMMEDIATELY FELL IN LOVE WITH RICHARDSON. SOMETHING ABOUT THIS CITY REMINDS ME SO MUCH OF HOME. UM, I, IT'S LIKE A SMALL, IT GIVES ME, IT'S A BIG CITY, BUT IT GIVES ME A VERY SMALL TOWN FEEL. I LOVE ALL THE MOM AND POP BUSINESSES THAT EXIST WITHIN RICHARDSON. THERE IS A LOVE FOR THIS COMMUNITY. AND IMMEDIATELY OF MOVING IN THIS AREA, I WANTED TO MAKE THIS MY HOME PERMANENTLY. SO I'M EXCITED TO BE HERE. I'M EXCITED TO GIVE BACK TO THE CITY OF RICHARDSON. I'M EXCITED TO SERVE ON THIS COMMISSION. UM, MY BACKGROUND, I, UH, ACTUALLY WENT TO SCHOOL FOR EDUCATION, SO I LOVE LEARNING, TEACHING, UH, DEVELOPING OTHERS. AND MY BACKGROUND NOW, CAREER WISE, HAS BEEN IN HR, SO MM-HMM . I SIT IN THIS INTERSECTION OF THINKING ABOUT NOT ONLY DE AND I, BUT THINKING ABOUT IT BEYOND JUST HOW FOLKS LOOK, UM, AND UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE IS A DIVERSITY OF THOUGHT PROCESSES. AND SO I'M EXCITED TO BRING EVEN MY DI DIVERSE THOUGHT PROCESS TO THE TABLE AND GET BACK TO THIS COMMUNITY. WONDERFUL. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. YEAH. MY NAME IS CHEN. I AM PART OF THIS GROUP SINCE I'M ALMOST A YEAR NOW. SO, UH, MY BACKGROUND IS TELECOM. I'M AN ENGINEER, UM, AND, UM, GOT TWO DAUGHTERS WHO GREW UP IN THE CITY AND WENT TO UTD AND ALL THE STUFF. SO ALMOST 27 YEARS NOW IN THE CITY. SO I'M GLAD TO BE IN THIS COMMISSION. THANK YOU. YEAH. MY NAME IS NORMAN MENDOZA. I AM ADMIN SECRETARY, BUT ALSO THE RECORDING SECRETARY FOR THIS GROUP. UH, I ALSO HAVE TWO OTHER COMMITTEES THAT I WORK ON THAT I AM ALSO THE BOARD SECRETARY, UH, ZONING, BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, AND ALSO THE BOARDS, UM, THE, UH, BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AS WELL AS THIS ONE. MM-HMM . SO I HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE, UM, TAKING NOTES AND, AND MAKING SURE THE, THE MEETING RUNS WELL. AND I DO HAVE A LOT OF BACKGROUND EXPERIENCE. I'VE WORKED WITH PLANO FOR A LOT OF YEARS, ABOUT 20 YEARS BEFORE I CAME HERE. SO I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE SERVICES THAT CITIES PROVIDE. THANK YOU. GREAT. YEAH. WELL, THANK YOU. WELL WELCOME EVERYBODY, UH, TO THIS COMMISSION, UH, IN 2026. UM, AND THEN NOW WE KICK OFF OUR AGENDA FOR THE FIRST AGENDA FOR THIS YEAR. UH, THE FIRST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS TO CALL ANY VISITORS TO SPEAK TO THE COMMISSION. DO WE HAVE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION? [00:10:01] OKAY. CAN I SPEAK FOR LIKE A MINUTE? COURSE. OKAY. UM, HI EVERYONE. SO I'M MARCUS PATSON. SO I LIVE IN RICHARDSON BY SALINE AREA. I'M ALSO PART OF A, UH, THAT WITH, UH, RICHARDSON BICYCLE COALITION. AND OUR GOAL AS RICHARD BICYCLE COALITION IS BASICALLY TO GET EVERYONE WHO WANTS TO RIDE A BIKE. WE WANNA GET 'EM ON A BIKE RIDING, INCLUDING KIDS, ADULTS, YOUNG, OLD, NO MATTER WHAT. BASICALLY, IF THEY HAVE A WILL, WE WANNA HELP YOU FIND A WAY. MM-HMM . SO, THANK YOU. UM, SO WE ALREADY INTRODUCED OUR TWO NEWLY APPOINTED MEMBERS HERE, GILDO, ZARA, AND VICTORIA HARTMAN, WHO BOTH WERE SWORN IN AT LAST MONDAY CITY COUNCIL MEETING. AND SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMITMENT TO SERVE ON THE CIEC. UH, THE NEXT ITEM ON AGENDA IS A REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM A PREVIOUS MEETING, WHICH WAS HELD NOVEMBER 6TH, 2025. DO WE HAVE A MOTION OR ANY AMENDMENTS FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES? I'D LIKE TO PUT A MOTION FOR APPROVAL. LAST MEETING MINUTES. THANK YOU. SARAH. ARE WE HAVE AN APPROVAL FOR, UM, PROMOTION BY RAJ AAR. ANYONE SECONDING THE APPROVAL? I SECOND. UM, AUDREY OTIS. UH, SECONDS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. WITH THAT, UH, ANY, ANY OPPOSED TO THE MINUTES AND ALL IN APPROVAL? PLEASE SAY YES. YES, YES. WITH THAT, WE, WE PASS, UH, APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES UNANIMOUSLY. NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS TO REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE TACTICS FOR 2026. UH, GREG WILL, UH, PRESENT THE FIRST AGENDA ITEM FOR THE EVENING. GREG. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. AND I'LL GO AHEAD AND GET UP AND COME ON OVER HERE. SO, I WANTED TO GIVE YOU A, A REVIEW AND UPDATE OF YOUR TACTICS RELATED TO THE STRATEGIC PLAN. AND AS YOU MAY RECALL, AT OUR LAST MEETING IN NOVEMBER, WE HAD UPDATED THE TACTICS TO PREPARE FOR OUR 2026 WORK PLAN, AND HAVE ALREADY STARTED GETTING, UH, SOME OF THAT WORK IN YOUR WAY. WANTED TO GIVE YOU A QUICK UPDATE ON THAT AND THEN, UH, GET ANY FURTHER INFORMATION FROM YOU GUYS RELATED ON MOVING FORWARD. AGAIN, THIS IS ALL TIED TO YOUR GOALS THAT WERE ADOPTED AS PART OF YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN BEFORE PRIMARY STAKEHOLDER EXPERIENCE, CULTURAL SOCIETAL IMPACT, ECONOMIC IMPACT, INTERNAL CAPACITY, ORGANIZATIONAL DEVELOPMENT. AND WE'LL GO THROUGH THE TACTICS THAT WERE ADOPTED LAST NOVEMBER. WANTED TO START WITH THE DAYS OF RECOGNITION DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS TIED TO YOUR STAKEHOLDER EXPERIENCE GOAL THAT IS CURRENTLY UNDER DEVELOPMENT. I PLAN TO BE ABLE TO BRING THAT TO YOU IN MARCH TO HAVE A DRAFT, UH, PRESENTATION FOR OUR NEW MEMBERS HERE. THIS WAS ESSENTIALLY A, STARTED OUT FROM AN IDEA TO WOULD THERE BE A PROCESS THAT THIS COMMISSION COULD BRING FOR CONSIDERATION BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL PROCLAMATIONS FOR APPROVAL TO BRING ATTENTION TO THINGS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT THE CITY WOULDN'T TYPICALLY DO. SOME OF THEM COULD BE THINGS LIKE RELIGIOUS HOLIDAYS. SOME OF THEM COULD BE, UH, DIFFERENT SPECIAL TIMES OF YEAR OF OTHER RECOGNITIONS. AND SO FINDING A PROCESS BY WHICH THE, THAT THIS COMMISSION MAY BE ABLE TO, TO BRING SOMETHING FORWARD. SO THAT'S UNDER DEVELOPMENT. WE'LL BE ABLE TO BRING THAT FORWARD FOR CONSIDERATION. SOME DISCUSSION COMING UP IN MARCH, THE DEVELOPMENT. ASK RICHARDSON PAMPHLET FIRE FLYER. THIS WILL BE TIED AGAIN TO STAKEHOLDER EXPERIENCE. THIS IS UNDER DEVELOPMENT. ESSENTIALLY WHAT HAD HAPPENED WAS, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE, BUT ESSENTIALLY IF YOU GO TO EVERY DEPARTMENT'S LANDING PAGE, THERE IS CONTACT INFORMATION THAT INCLUDES AN EMAIL ADDRESS. SO IT'LL HAVE THEIR, THEIR ADDRESS PHONE NUMBER, AND THEN A WAY FOR YOU TO SEND DIRECTLY AN EMAIL TO THAT DEPARTMENT TO ANSWER BACK. AND SO WHEN THAT HAD BECOME APPARENT TO THIS GROUP, ONE OF THE IDEAS WAS, HEY, WHY DON'T WE HAVE THAT? AND BECAUSE YOU GUYS HAVE A TABLE, AND WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THAT IN A SECOND TOO. BUT ESSENTIALLY, WHEN YOU GO OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY, WOULDN'T IT BE GREAT IF YOU HAD SOMETHING TO BE ABLE TO HAND TO PEOPLE TO SAY, IF YOU WANT TO INTERACT WITH A CITY DEPARTMENT, HERE'S A GREAT WAY TO GET IN TOUCH WITH THEM. AND SO THAT'S BEING, UH, PUT TOGETHER. I I DON'T HAVE A TIMELINE YET FOR YOU ON, FOR YOU GUYS ON THAT, BUT WE'LL, WE'RE WORKING ON IT. WE HAVE, UH, THE REST OF 2026 DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE CIAC TO HOLD TABLE OPPORTUNITIES. UH, BASICALLY YOU'RE LISTENING TOUR, THIS HAS HAD YOUR STAKEHOLDER EXPERIENCE GOAL, AND THIS IS REALLY ONE OF THE ONGOING ONES. UH, ONE OF THE, WELL, LAST YEAR I'M THE, THE EVENT THAT IMMEDIATELY COMES TO MIND IS THE DARTS EVENT WHERE WE BROUGHT THE TABLE AT GET ON BOARD, [00:15:01] WHICH, UH, VICTORIA, I KNOW YOU WERE AT, DID YOU ATTEND THE GET ON BOARD EVENT BY ANY CHANCE IN SEPTEMBER THAT TALKED ABOUT BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS? IS IT HELD AT CITY HALL? MAYBE NOT. IF, IF YOU, SO WE HAVE BASICALLY A TABLE AND IT'S GOT A WRAP ON IT AND IT'LL SAY COMMUNITY INCLUSION AND ENGAGEMENT COMMISSION ON THE TABLE. THERE ARE, AGAIN, THE VARIOUS PAMPHLETS, JUST THINGS THAT, THE HAND HANDOUT, THE CREATION OF IT WAS TO PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE THAT AND SET IT UP AT JUST VARIOUS COMMUNITY EVENTS. MM-HMM . AND SO THAT'S AGAIN, AN ONGOING TYPE. IT'S IDENTIFYING THOSE OPPORTUNITIES. NOW, LAST NOVEMBER, YOU GUYS HAD REQUESTED THAT, UH, HOW GREAT WOULD IT BE IF WE COULD GET IN FRONT OF THE HOA PRESIDENTS SLASH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION PRESIDENT'S BOARD? THAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED THIS WEEK AT THE CITY COUNCIL'S FIRST MEETING OF THE YEAR ON TUESDAY. UH, RASHMI AND I, UH, WERE ABLE TO BRING BEFORE THEM, WE HAD THE BOARD, THE TABLE SET UP, UH, SPOKE TO THEM ABOUT THE GROUP, TOLD THEM THAT YOU GUYS WERE AVAILABLE TO BE ABLE TO ATTEND THEIR PUBLIC MEETINGS, UH, THEIR COMMUNITY MEETINGS, AND BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT EITHER GRAB THEIR INPUT FROM THEIR MEMBERS OR HAVE, AGAIN, SOME INFORMATION, BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THEM TO INCREASE AWARENESS OF THE WORK THAT YOU DO. AND THAT THERE IS A GROUP THAT'S OUT THERE TO BE ABLE TO LISTEN SPECIFICALLY AND ADD THIS LENS FOR THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS, PROJECTS, AND SERVICES THAT ARE PROVIDED BY THE CITY. YEAH. SO OUR NEXT ONE, OH, SORRY, SORRY, SORRY. YES. I JUST WANNA LIKE CONGRATULATE YOU BOTH BECAUSE I FELT LIKE IT WAS RECEIVED REALLY, REALLY WELL. THERE WERE SO MANY PEOPLE AT THAT MEETING WHO SAID, YOU KNOW, I HAVE AN HOA AND I CAN TELL BY LOOKING AT THE LIST OF NAMES THAT, YOU KNOW, NAMES ARE DIFFERENT FROM, FROM MY NAMES. SO THERE'S DIVERSE COMMUNITY HERE, BUT THEY'RE NOT ENGAGING IN OUR HOA OR IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN WE DO? AND THAT, YOU KNOW, GREAT SUGGESTIONS WERE GIVEN. AND SO I THINK IT WAS A REALLY IMPORTANT DIALOGUE. AND I JUST WANNA THANK YOU FOR BEING THERE AND REPRESENTING AND FOR PRESENTING. 'CAUSE I THINK IT, IT WAS A REALLY GREAT WAY TO GET THIS COMMISSION OUT IN FRONT OF, UH, FOLKS THAT MIGHT NOT OTHERWISE UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE DOING OR, OR PAY ATTENTION. SO GOOD ON. AND IT WAS A GOOD LONG DISCUSSION. I'D SAY A GOOD 30, YEAH. MORE MINUTES. GREAT. SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY IN YOUR PACKETS. UM, I THINK IT'S THE VERY LAST PAGE, OR NEXT TO THE LAST PAGE YOU HAVE. AND I, AND THIS WAS INCLUDED IN YOUR EMAIL AS WELL, UH, OUR OPPORTUNITIES FOR VOLUNTEERING FOR THE TABLE SETUP. THE NEXT ONE'S COMING UP ON, EXCUSE ME, FEBRUARY 15TH FOR LUNAR NEW YEAR. AND I, I BELIEVE I HAVE TWO OR THREE, UH, VOLUNTEERS THAT ARE ALREADY SIGNED UP TO ATTEND FOR THAT EVENT. WE WILL HAVE THAT TABLE AVAILABLE. SO PLEASE EMAIL ME, LET ME KNOW FOR SURE IF YOU PLAN TO ATTEND. AND ESSENTIALLY WE'LL HAVE THE TABLE SET UP. YOU GO OUT THERE, SHAKE HANDS, LET PEOPLE KNOW WHO YOU ARE, WHAT YOU DO, AND IF THEY HAVE THINGS, OH, IF THEY SAY, YOU KNOW, OH, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT. WELL, HERE'S SOMETHING I WAS THINKING, WOULDN'T IT BE NICE? OR IF YOU WANT TO ASK THEM, OH, WHAT GROUP ARE YOU WITH? WELL, HOW DO YOU GUYS HEAR ABOUT THIS KIND OF INFORMATION? IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THAT EXCHANGE OF, OF, UH, EITHER IDEAS OR JUST TO, AGAIN, BE ABLE TO BE IN FRONT OF THE COMMUNITY. OKAY. SORRY TO INTERRUPT AGAIN, BUT YES, PLEASE. IF YOU SIGN UP FOR THESE MM-HMM . COME MM-HMM . UM, WE HAVE CULTURE AT THE CORE AND HAD THREE PEOPLE SIGN UP, SOME DUE TO ILLNESS AND OTHER REASONS COULDN'T BE THERE. AND GREG, WHO NEEDED TO BE OUTTA TOWN FOR HIS DAUGHTER'S BASKETBALL OR BASEBALL OR SOMETHING, UM, WOUND UP HAVING TO STAFF IT. UM, BECAUSE THIS COMMISSION DIDN'T SHOW UP AND STAFF THAT TABLE AS THEY SAID THEY WOULD. AND SO, PLEASE, IF YOU'RE GONNA SIGN UP, MAKE A COMMITMENT. WE UNDERSTAND ILLNESS HAPPENS, BUT THIS IS YOUR COMMISSION AND IT'S FOR YOU. IT'S NOT FOR FOR GREG TO HAVE TO BE OUT THERE, UM, YOU KNOW, DOING THE WORK OF THIS COMMISSION. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE ONE SIGN UP TO DO THESE AND THEN GO DO IT. RIGHT. THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY THAT YOU'VE BEEN ASKING FOR, TO REALLY GO OUT AND ENGAGE WITH THE COMMUNITY. SO PLEASE, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO THAT. UM, LIKE I SAID, WE GET ILLNESS HAPPENS AND WHATNOT, BUT PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS. MM-HMM. AND THANK YOU FOR, FOR DOING THAT. HAPPY TO DO IT. HAPPY TO DO IT. IT'S, UH, APPRECIATE YOU. THANK YOU. UH, OH. UH, INQUIRE A UTD CAN OFFER A CAPSTONE PROJECT TO STUDENTS TO DETERMINE GAPS IN COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. AND THIS IS, AGAIN, TIED TO CULTURAL SOCIETAL IMPACT AND HAM. YOU HAD MENTIONED YOU MAY KNOW SOMEBODY, UH, JUST AGAIN, WHENEVER YOU FIND, FIND THAT CONTACT, LET ME KNOW AND OR JUST DO A VIRTUAL INTRODUCTION TO US AND I COULD BE HAPPY TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT WHAT OPPORTUNITIES MAY, MAY BE ABLE TO BE AVAILABLE. OKAY. UH, TO EXPAND, I'M STARTED TALKING WITH THEM AND WE GOTTA REACH BACK OUT. I GUESS WE HAVE THE BREAK AND SOME FINALS, BUT YEAH. UM, LET'S SEE WHAT WE CAN DO WITH IT. PERFECT. SO, GREG, BEFORE WE MOVE OFF. YES. ONE THING ON THE DAYS OF PRACTITIONER, I KNOW THAT A LOT OF TIMES WHEN WE TALK ABOUT RECOGNITION, WE'RE USUALLY TALKING, LIKE YOU MENTIONED, HOLIDAYS OR SOME GROUP OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IS IT POSSIBLE TO INCLUDE PERSONAL RECOGNITIONS? IN OTHER WORDS, IF THERE'S A PERSON FROM RICHARDSON OR YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY WHO HAS ACCOMPLISHED SOMETHING, UM, I THINK IT WOULD MAKE SENSE FOR THE CITY TO RECOGNIZE, AND I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE THEY ALREADY DO THIS, BUT IN SOME SENSE AS TO ADD THAT LIKE, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY ACCOMPLISHES SOMETHING MONUMENTAL IN THE CITY, RIGHT? [00:20:01] I THINK IT'D BE NICE IF THEY'RE RECOGNIZED FROM THE CITY AS WELL. SO I, I THINK, AND WHAT I'LL DO IS AS I'M PUTTING THE PROPOSAL TOGETHER, WHEN YOU GO THROUGH YOUR, HOW DO YOU DECIDE, DECIDE OR DETERMINE, 'CAUSE OBVIOUSLY YOU WOULD WANT IT TO BE TIED TO THE TYPE OF WORK YOU'RE DOING. AND SO I, I THINK EVERYTHING'S UP FOR THAT DISCUSSION. AND SO I'LL, I'LL MAKE THAT MENTAL NOTE. IN FACT, I NEED TO WRITE IT DOWN. YEAH. WELL ACTUALLY, I, I NOW HAVE A RECORDING WITH MINUTES . UH, I CAN, UH, WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL TAKE THAT FEEDBACK AND AS I AM DEVELOPING EITHER POLICY, SOME KIND OF OUTLINE, WE'LL INCLUDE, UH, INDIVIDUAL EVENT AND I'LL, I'LL PROBABLY HAVE A, A DRAFT CALENDAR OF SOME KIND THAT YOU GUYS CAN START WITH. AT LEAST START THE DISCUSSION. NOW, THE GREAT THING ABOUT THIS GROUP IS YOU ALL HAVE YOUR DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS. YOU ARE, YOU WILL BE ABLE, THE THINGS THAT GOOGLE DOESN'T GIVE ME, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SAY, HEY, WHAT ABOUT? AND SO THAT'S REALLY THE PURPOSE OF STARTING THE DISCUSSION THEN, AND THEN HAVING THE GROUP TO BE ABLE TO SET UP A CALENDAR. AND THEN AS WE GO THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, IF SOMETHING COMES UP, WE COULD ALWAYS ADD ADD TO THAT. YEAH. NO, AND I, I WOULD JUST ADD, I MEAN, EVEN BEYOND THAT, IF YOU HAVE SOMEBODY IN RICHARDSON THAT DONE SOMETHING EXTRAORDINARY, CONTACT ONE OF YOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS. WE, WE RECOGNIZE THAT THE MOSQUES ROBOTICS TEAM, THEY CAME BEFORE THE COUNCIL BECAUSE THEY WON SOME SORT OF COMPETITION. UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAD, UM, JACOB POLISH, WHO, YOU KNOW, GREW UP IN RICHARDSON AND PITCHED IN HIS FIRST MAJOR LEAGUE GAME THIS PAST YEAR. UM, THERE'S ANOTHER ONE THAT, UH, THE, UM, THE TRACK STAR THAT, THAT GREW UP IN RICHARDSON. SO, I MEAN, WE LOVE TO DO THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE JUST SPORTS. LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE THE MOSS ROBOTICS TEAM. THAT'S FANTASTIC. IF YOU KNOW SOMETHING LIKE THAT, JUST CONTACT US. WE'D LOVE TO RECOGNIZE THEM FOR THEIR IMPACT IN RICHARDSON. MM-HMM . I FEEL LIKE THAT WAS AN INTERNATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT FOR LOSS. YEAH, IT WAS A BIG DEAL. YEAH, IT WAS GREAT. THEY BROUGHT THEIR ROBOT OUT TO COUNCIL AND SHOWED IT TO US. SO, YEAH. SO DO THAT. GREG, I HAD ONE QUESTION. SO SORRY, I MISSED THE LAST MEETING. SO THE LAST BULLET, IS THIS THE GAP IN THE COMMUNITY FROM A STUDENT'S PERSPECTIVE? OR WHAT WAS THE CAPSTONE PROJECT? TO? AND, AND I'LL, I'LL START AND THEN ANYBODY HERE FEEL FREE TO ADD IN OR CORRECT ME, BUT AS, AS I RECALL THAT DISCUSSION, IT WAS NOT, NOT FOCUSED ON STUDENTS, BUT GAPS IN GENERAL WITHIN THE COMMUNITY TO MAYBE WORK WITH THE STUDENTS TO DO A STUDY OF SOME SORT, TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITH THEM ON IDENTIFYING, ALL RIGHT, WHERE IN THE COMMUNITY DO WE HAVE HARD TO REACH GROUPS, INDIVIDUAL OR NOT INDIVIDUALS, BUT GROUPS OR JUST COMMUNITIES IN GENERAL? AND IS THERE A PROCESS BY WHICH WORKING WITH, 'CAUSE WE DIDN'T GET THE MONEY FOR THE FUND, FOR THE FUNDING FROM THE LAST LAST BUDGET. COULD, COULD THERE BE A WAY WORKING WITH UTD AND STUDENTS THAT ARE DOING THIS TYPE OF WORK? IS LEARNING HOW TO DO STUFF WORK? IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY THERE? AND SHAM, IS THAT COR CORRECT OR YEAH, MAYBE FILL IN SOME, THAT'S SPOT ON. AND IT'S, IT'S TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, LIKE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ESSENTIALLY THE SAME GROUP OF PEOPLE COMING BACK AND DOING THE SAME KIND OF JOBS. UM, AND ALSO GOING TO THE SAME EVENTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. AND RICHARDSON'S A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THAT. I MEAN, THERE'S ALL KINDS OF, UM, SEGMENTS OUT THERE, WHETHER THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT AGE CATEGORIES OR DIFFERENT EXPERIENCES OR, UM, DIFFERENT STATUS. UM, SO THIS IS KIND OF A WAY TO USE ALL THE SOCIAL SCIENCE TECHNIQUES THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE AND MAYBE ADDRESS IT A DIFFERENT WAY, FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN GET MORE INCLUSION. AND I WAS GONNA PUT A PAPER UP THAT WE CAN SEE IF WE CAN PUT IT IN OUR LIBRARY OR WHATEVER. BUT JUST THE VALUE OF HAVING MUCH MORE, UH, ENGAGEMENT, UM, INCLUSION AND ENGAGEMENT. UH, 'CAUSE THAT'S WHO WE ARE. MM-HMM . BUT I MEAN, FIGURING OUT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE, WE COULD HAVEN'T TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF OR MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING THAT, SOME INSIGHT THAT, THAT WOULD GIVE US A BETTER DIRECTION. OR MAYBE NOT. I MEAN, BUT, UH, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF VALUE ADDED HERE. MAYBE THERE'S SOME WAY TO MAXIMIZE THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE. I MEAN, IT'S, YEAH, I MEAN, AS A MINORITY, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF MONOCHROMATIC, UH, KIND OF SITUATIONS GOING ON. AND I MEAN, WE'RE, WE'RE KNOWN FOR OUR FOOD AND THAT'S OBVIOUSLY NOT MEAN BATTALIONS ALL THE TIME, SO MM-HMM . OKAY. UH, MAYBE THERE'S SOME OTHER HIDDEN GEMS OUT THERE. SO IT'S A WAY TO DO THAT WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, GOING BACK AND INTO THE BUDGET. LET'S SEE WHAT WE GOT. GOT IT. UT'S RICHARDSON. SO THERE'S A LEARNING EXPERIENCE FOR THEM TO, YEAH, SORRY. IT'S A LEARNING EXPERIENCE FOR THEM TO, AND, AND IT'S A SOCIAL SCIENCE. IT'S NOT, THEY'VE GOT A LOT OF TECHNIQUES AND A LOT OF HISTORY AND EDUCATION THEY'VE BUILT UP TO GET TO THIS POINT TO SORT OF HAVE AN ANSWER WITH MM-HMM . YOU KNOW, MORE DIRECTION AND MORE, UM, VALUE OR WHATEVER, UM, BACKGROUND TO IT. SO RATHER THAN US JUST MAKING UP A SURVEY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT MM-HMM. LET'S DO IT LIKE BEST OF BREED WHEN WE GOT OUT THERE AND SEE IF THERE'S A WAY TO DO THAT. BUT, UM, UH, I MEAN I, WE, WE HAVE PLENTY [00:25:01] OF PEOPLE CAN, UH, GO AND TALK TO, I HAVE SOME PEOPLE THAT WE CAN DO, IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS OTHER PEOPLE WE CAN ALSO ASK. YEAH. BUT, UM, THEY DO THAT FOR A LIVING. THEY, THEY LOOK FOR PARTNERSHIPS WITH PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY OR OTHER PEOPLE, AND IT'S A WIN-WIN IN A LOT OF WAYS. SO I THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE INTERESTING FOR US. OKAY. HAM, I, UM, I DO A LOT OF WORK. I LEAD OUR INTERNSHIP PROGRAM AT MY COMPANY. AND SO I ALREADY HAVE SOME PARTNERSHIPS WITH UTD FOR CAPSTONES AND MAYBE THAT'S, AND GRAD WORK PROJECTS OR EVEN SOME OF THE OTHER LOCAL COLLEGES AROUND THE FW. SO, UM, I CAN ASK AS WELL TO SEE WHAT WE, I MEAN WE CAN TALK AND, BUT YEAH. YEAH. WE'LL MM-HMM . WE'LL FEEL FREE TO SEND THEM. YES. SEND. SO AGAIN, ANYTHING THAT COMES, THAT'S ABOUT TO COME BEFORE THIS COMMISSION NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED IN THIS FORUM AND NOT, NOT BETWEEN THE COURSE. OKAY. WE WILL NOT BE TALKING. WE WILL NOT, WE'LL NOT, BUT, UM, BUT YEAH, SO I DO HAVE, UM, SOME RELATIONSHIPS WITH SOME OF THE SCHOOLS IN UTD AND A COUPLE OF DEPARTMENTS THAT DO THIS. UM, SO BECAUSE OF MY WORK LIVES IN COMMUNITY DATA, UM, SO LIKE A LOT OF THE PARTNERSHIPS THAT I HAVE WITH THE SCHOOLS, THEY'RE SENDING STUDENTS TO DO DATA ANALYSIS. SO, UM, I WILL BRING THOSE RELATIONSHIPS BACK TO THE COMMISSION. THAT WAS THE CONCERN I HAD. WHERE THE DATA COMES IN TO DO THIS COUNCIL PROJECT WAS MY ORIGINAL CONCERN. SORRY. BUT I THINK WE CAN YEP. WE CAN WORK ON THAT. YEAH. OKAY. UH, UH, INVITE SOME MORE GROUPS PRESENT TO THE CIC. THIS IS, UH, YOUR GOAL FOR INTERNAL CAPACITY ORGANIZATIONAL DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS GOING TO BE AN ONGOING YEAR AFTER YEAR. OUR, I THINK IT WAS SEPTEMBER WE HELD THE MEETING WITH PLANO, THE, THEIR VERSION OF THIS GROUP. I HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH TWO NOW. IN FACT, JUST THIS MORNING I SPOKE TO THE CITY OF ALLEN AND LOOKING TO SCHEDULE THEM AND CITY OF FRISCO. WE ARE CURRENTLY ALSO LOOKING AT SOMETIME THIS YEAR TO BE ABLE TO SCHEDULE WITH, UH, WITH THAT GROUP TO BE ABLE TO COME AND, AND TALK PRETTY MUCH THE SAME AS BEFORE. THEY WOULD HAVE THEIR, THEIR CHAIR OR OTHER REPRESENTATIVE FROM THAT GROUP BE ABLE TO COME HERE, DISCUSS WHAT IT IS PRESENT, REALLY WHAT THEY DO, AND THEN CREATE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR Q AND A. AND THAT IS ONGOING. RECEIVE CIAC PRESENTATIONS IN ADVANCE OF MEETINGS FOR YOUR GOAL TO IMPROVE INTERNAL CAPACITY ORGANIZATIONAL DEVELOPMENT THAT STARTED WITH THIS MEETING LAST WEEK. AND WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE, YOU HAS NOT, OTHER THAN A FEW MINUTES BEFORE THIS MEETING STARTED, I REMOVED THE WORD DRAFT FROM ATIONS . BUT OTHER THAN THAT, WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS THE SAME THING. OR WHAT I'M PRESENTING TONIGHT IS THE SAME THING THAT WE SENT TO YOU LAST WEEK. SO WE ARE ENDEAVORING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PROVIDE THOSE DOCUMENTS TO YOU WHILE IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING. CAN'T PROMISE THAT WILL ALWAYS HAPPEN. 'CAUSE SOMETIMES I'M DEPENDING ON OTHER DEPARTMENTS, UH, TO BE ABLE TO, TO HAND THOSE IN AND THAT WE ARE, WE ARE WORKING TO HAVE THAT DONE FOR YOU. AND I DO NOTICE THE DATES HAVE BEEN CORRECTED FROM THE DRAFT. YES. YES, WE DID. THANK, I THINK IT WAS YOU THAT SENT, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT TO, UH, TO OUR ATTENTION. I THINK IT MUST HAVE BEEN SOMEONE ELSE WHO EMAILED IT IN. SOME SOMEBODY DID. I KNOW GOT AN EMAIL ON IT, IT, CHRIS . SURE. RIGHT. TAKE THE CREDIT. I WAS WAITING FOR THE MEETING TO . SO YES, IT IS, THE CORRECT DATES ARE ON THE CALENDAR THAT YOU HAVE NOW SELECT TOPIC IDEAS FOR THE ANNUAL TRAINING IN YOUR, AND THIS IS FOR YOUR GOAL, CULTURAL SOCIETAL IMPACT. AGAIN, THIS IS ANOTHER ONGOING, EVERY YEAR WE PROVIDE A TRAINING OPPORTUNITY TO FOCUS ON SOME TOPIC AREA TO HELP YOU IN THE WORK THAT YOU DO IN YOUR PACKET, THERE IS A LIST OF TRAINING TOPICS. IF YOU COULD, UH, I, I THINK GO AHEAD AND JUST TAKE THAT SHEET. CIRCLE ONE, SEND IT MY WAY. AND I WILL ESSENTIALLY JUST TAKE IT BY A STRAW POLL OF WHAT, WHAT I GET THE MOST VOTES FOR. AND THEN THAT'S WHAT I'LL SCHEDULE. OUR TRAININGS ARE USUALLY SET FOR JULY. FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT WERE ON THE COMMISSION LAST YEAR, YOU'LL REMEMBER THAT LAST JULY WE HAD TO RESCHEDULE DUE TO AN ILLNESS FROM THE PRESENTER. WE ENDED UP HAVING THAT AS A JOINT MEETING WITH THE BPAC AND HAD TALKED ABOUT ACCESSIBILITY TOPICS. AND THIS YEAR, UH, WE HAVE, UH, A LIST BEFORE YOU IF, WELL, I, I JUST, AGAIN, CIRCLE ONE OF THOSE AND LET ME KNOW, AND THEN WE WILL, WE'LL GO FROM THERE. AND ACTUALLY, I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL WANNA DISCUSS ANY OF THOSE THAT ARE ON WHILE, WHILE WE HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY. IS THIS THE EXPANDED FROM WHAT YOU GAVE US LAST TIME? I FEEL LIKE IT WAS JUST TITLES LAST TIME OR SOMETHING. CORRECT. SORRY. THAT, AND THAT'S RIGHT. IN NOVEMBER, THE, THERE WAS A REQUEST FOR CAN WE GET A DESCRIPTION? AND SO I REACHED BACK OUT TO THE, TO THE COMPANY THAT IS GOING TO PROVIDE THE TRAINING AND THEY SENT ME THE, [00:30:01] THESE BRIEF DESCRIPTIONS FOR EACH ONE OF THESE. AND SO THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU NOW. AND SO, AND, AND I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, BECAUSE WELL, WE, WE DID PROVIDE THIS LAST WEEK. ANYBODY WHO MAY NOT HAVE HAD A, A CHANCE TO READ IT FROM SINCE UH, THE PACKET WENT OUT, GO AHEAD AND JUST, YOU CAN LEAVE IT AFTER, AFTER THE MEETING AND I'LL PICK THEM UP AFTER. UH, GREG, I'M SORRY ON THAT ONE MORE, AND I FEEL LIKE I MAY HAVE ASKED THIS LAST TIME. I DON'T RECALL OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, REGARDLESS OF THE TOPIC CHOSEN, THAT PRE PRESENTATION OR THE, THE, THE FACILITATING OF THAT TRAINING ALL GOES THROUGH THE SAME, UM, COMPANY, ORGANIZATION, THIRD PARTY, WHAT HAVE YOU. THESE ALL COME FROM THE SAME YES. GROUP. THIS, THIS RIGHT. COMES FROM A COMPANY THAT SPECIALIZES IN D UH, DIVERSITY RIGHT. ENGAGEMENT KIND OF TOPIC. IT'S JUST GIVING THEM THE DIRECTION THAT WE WOULD LIKE THAT TO GO. CORRECT. I THANK YOU. I JUST NEED TO REFRESH THERE, . YES. UH, BUT IT'S DIFFERENT THAN THE GROUP THAT'S PRESENTED IN AUGUST, CORRECT? THIS IS A DIFFERENT GROUP. YES. UH, AND, AND JUST IF ANYBODY HAS, THE REASON FOR THAT IS I GOT A QUOTE FROM THIS PARTICULAR COMPANY TO MEET, TO MEET BUDGET. SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY YOU'RE GETTING PERFECT. GETTING THE TOPICS FROM THIS ONE COMPANY. THANK YOU. UH, SET UP AN INBOX FOR A CIC TO RECEIVE COMMUNICATIONS. PART OF YOUR GOAL FOR STAKEHOLDER EXPERIENCE. WE'RE ON ASK RICHARDSON COMMUNICATIONS. SO ON THE PAMPHLET THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW THAT'S DEVELOPED FOR CIEC, WE'VE ACTUALLY BEEN USING THE COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT'S DIRECT EMAIL ADDRESS FOR THAT. UH, I HAD THIS DISCUSSION WITH, UH, CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND WE WERE LOOKING AT THE BOARDS OF COMMISSIONS OTHER, THE WAY WE KIND OF TYPICALLY DO THINGS. AND SO WE DID LAND ON GOING AHEAD INSTEAD OF WHAT THE TOPIC WAS, COULD THIS COMMISSION SPECIFICALLY CREATE ITS OWN EMAIL ADDRESS TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER COMMUNITY QUESTIONS ESSENTIALLY? AND AS AN AN ADVISORY ROLE? AN ADVISORY COMMISSION, UH, IT WAS DETERMINED THAT THE BEST ROUTE WOULD PROBABLY STILL BE TO HAVE IT WHERE IT GOES TO A DEPARTMENT WHERE I, THIS, THIS ACTUAL, THIS EMAIL ACTUALLY COMES TO ME AS WELL AS TWO OTHER PEOPLE ON MY TEAM. SO EVEN IF I'M ON VACATION, THERE'S SOMEBODY ALWAYS THERE TO ANSWER IT. BUT THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE WE LANDED ON THAT. SO I WANTED TO GIVE YOU THAT QUICK UPDATE THAT IT'S, IT'S RESOLVED IN IN THAT WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND KEEP IT FOR THE AS, UH, AS RICHARDSON COMMUNICATIONS. ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? IS THAT ALREADY ON THE PAMPHLET OR WILL TO BE ADDED? IT'S ALREADY ON IT. OKAY. YEAH. ARE YOU ENVISIONING TO EVENTUALLY LIKE IZE THAT PROCESS A AND HAVE LIKE A PRODUCT PROBABLY PROVIDING ANSWERS ON THAT INTERACTION OR NOT YET? OR WE MIGHT MORE LIKE FOR US TO REVIEW THOSE QUESTIONS AND THEY PROVIDE AN ANSWER OR HOW'S GONNA LOOK LIKE THEY, I I THINK IT'S UNDERSTOOD. SO ANY QUESTIONS THAT COME INTO THIS, HOW DO THEY COME BEFORE THE COMMISSION ESSENTIALLY? YEAH. I'LL, I'LL PART OF YOUR PACKET. WHENEVER WE GET EMAILS IN, WE WILL INCLUDE IT. NOW, WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY YET, BUT SHOULD WE GET AN EMAIL IN ASKING THE CIEC FOR SOMETHING IN PARTICULAR? UH, OR IF, OR IF YOU WERE TO GO OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY THROUGH THE TABLETOP AND HAVE AN INTERACTION, THEN, UH, ESSENTIALLY IT'LL JUST BE FUNNELED THROUGH THROUGH THE ASK RICHARDSON COMMUNICATIONS EMAIL ADDRESS. AND IT'LL BE PROVIDED NOT JUST TO ONE MEMBER, BUT ALL MEMBERS WILL HAVE THE BENEFIT OF SEEING THE COMMUNICATIONS THAT ARE, THAT ARE HERB WITHIN THAT EMAIL. YOU KNOW, MY MY POINT OF IS MORE, MORE LIKE THE IMMEDIATE INTERACTION WITH THOSE QUESTIONS ARE WE ARE GONNA BE, IS GONNA BE LIKE A SYSTEM TO PROVIDE IMMEDIATE ANSWERS ON THAT DIALOGUE OR, OR, OR NOT NECESSARILY. I, IF I CAN PROVIDE AN ANSWER RIGHT AWAY, I WILL PROBABLY PROVIDE IT TO WHOEVER'S CONTACTING, BUT I WOULD STILL MAKE THE COMMISSION AWARE OF THE CONTACT. BUT, UH, AS FAR AS WHO WHO'S ANSWERING IT, IT WOULD, THE REASON IT'S GOING THROUGH THIS DEPARTMENTAL, AND AGAIN, AS AN ADVISORY COMMISSION, YOU ADVISE TO THE CITY COUNCIL, BUT YOU ARE NOT TACK, YOU ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE TACTICAL INITIATION OF THINGS WITHIN THE CITY. AND SO AS PART OF THAT ROLE, I, THAT'S WHERE, WHERE IT WAS REALLY DETERMINED TO GO AHEAD AND KEEP IT AT A DEPARTMENTAL LEVEL SO THAT WE ARE RESPONDING ON BEHALF OF HOW WHATEVER THE WORK IS THAT'S GOING ON OR RELATED TO THE QUESTION. MAKE SENSE? VIRTUAL RESPONSES. EXACTLY. EXACTLY. OH, I GUESS I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING THE QUESTION. AUTOMATIC. YEAH, EXACTLY. OH, THEY HAD LIKE AN AI, LIKE SORT OF AN AI. WE DON'T HAVE ANY AI, SO THOSE COST MONEY. AND, UM, I HAVE YET TO HAVE APPROVAL FOR, UH, ANY EXPANDED PROGRAM THAT I'VE EVER FIT IN FOR A VIRTUAL ASSISTANT TO RESPOND. NOW, I WILL SAY THAT ASIDE, I ACTUALLY THINK THIS IS BETTER FOR A FEW REASONS. [00:35:01] ONE, I'VE WORKED WITH ALL THE DEPARTMENTS TO LET THEM KNOW THAT OUR GOAL IS TO WITHIN A 20. NOW IF IT GOES ON A FRIDAY, THEN MONDAY COULD BE THE TIME THAT YOU GET THE RESPONSE. BUT OUR GOAL IS TO, WITHIN A DAY, YOU HEAR AT LEAST SOMETHING FROM US, THE E THESE EMAILS. SO THIS ONE'S FROM MY DEPARTMENT, ASK RICHARDSON COMMUNICATIONS. EVERY DEPARTMENT HAS ONE OF THOSE. ASK RICHARDSON PUBLIC SERVICES, ASK RICHARDSON, UH, UM, UH, PARK AND RECREATION AS RICHARDSON LIBRARY. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE DEPARTMENTAL EMAILS, I, I CAN'T THINK OF A SINGLE DEPARTMENT THAT IT DOESN'T, THE DIRECTOR IS ON THERE AS WELL AS THEIR ASSISTANT DIRECTORS. YOU'RE GETTING PEOPLE. AND WITH MINE, I'VE EVEN ANSWERED IT. SOMETIMES IF I'M UP IN THE MORNING, I'LL, I'LL ANSWER IT. IF IT'S A WEEKEND, I DON'T CARE. AND SO YOU GET ACCESS TO A PERSON AND YOU'RE GETTING QUICK ACCESS. WE DON'T, WE DON'T IGNORE THOSE EMAILS. AND SO WHEN THEY COME IN, THERE'S A GENERAL INBOX WHEN THEY COME IN, I FORWARD THEM OUT TO DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS FOR THOSE ANSWERS. BUT WHILE WE DON'T HAVE A VIRTUAL ASSISTANT, EVEN, EVEN IF I HAVE TO SAY, I'M SORRY, I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER FOR THIS YET. I'VE CONTACTED THE RIGHT DEPARTMENT TO SEE IF I COULD FIND OUT SOMETHING OR I'LL HAND THEM OFF. PEOPLE ARE AT LEAST GETTING THAT. AND IT, IT'S ONE, WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING TO DO THE OTHER ONE. BUT TWO, I THINK PEOPLE APPRECIATE THE PERSONAL TOUCH. OKAY. UH, A LITTLE BIT MORE TOO. DOES THAT ANSWER? YEAH, YEAH. YEAH. SORRY. THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT THEY, THEY MAY NOT COME THAT WE CAN GET ONE. UH, BUT LET'S SEE WHAT HAPPENS. YES. I THINK THE EXPERIENCE IS GREAT. WHEN I THINK ABOUT LIKE INCLUSION AND ENGAGEMENT, HAVING THAT GOOD CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE, I THINK IT'S GONNA BE A WIN. MY QUESTION WAS GOING TO BE, UM, FOR THAT AS RICHARDSON COMMUNICATION. SO I KNOW ALL THE INQUIRIES ARE GONNA COME TO YOUR TEAM. IS THERE SOMEONE THAT IS A REPRESENTATIVE FOR THIS COMMISSION THAT YOU WOULD GO TO THAT TO FILTER QUESTIONS OUT IF YOU CAN'T ANSWER THEM? OR IS IT, OR IS OR IS IT GOING TO BE LIKE ANY OF US CAN RESPOND IF IT WAS SOMEBODY THAT HAD A QUESTION FOR THE COMMISSION? YEAH. I'D PROBABLY WRITE, LET'S SAY MARCUS SENT AN EMAIL AND SAID, HEY, HAS THE COMMISSION THOUGHT ABOUT THIS? I, I WOULD PROBABLY SAY ONE IF I KNEW THE ANSWER, YES OR NO. RIGHT. RIGHT. AND THEN TWO, IF THEY WERE WANTING TO SAY, WELL, CAN THEY, I WOULD PROBABLY INVITE THEM TO COME TO ONE OF THE MEETINGS AND SPEAK PUBLICLY TO BRING THAT BEFORE, BEFORE ALL OF YOU. UH, THEN IF IT WERE, I MEAN THE, THE SHORT ANSWER AGAIN WOULD BE I, I WOULD ANSWER THE BEST THAT I COULD. AND THEN ANYTHING, I'M TRYING TO THINK OF ANYTHING THAT IT WOULDN'T BE. JUST RECOMMEND THEY COME BEFORE YOU GUYS TO, TO ASK. OKAY. OR TO TALK, UM, THAT IF THERE'S ANYTHING I COULDN'T ASK, I WOULD PROBABLY DO THAT. OKAY. I WANT TO MAKE SURE, 'CAUSE I KNOW PREVIOUSLY, AND I WASN'T HERE FOR THE LAST MEETING, BUT IT WAS THAT INBOX THAT I GUESS WE WERE TRYING TO POTENTIALLY HAVE JUST FOR THE COMMISSION. AND SO I WAS LIKE, WHO'S GONNA MONITOR THAT? AND THEN I WAS THINKING THAT THERE WOULD BE A REPRESENTATIVE AGAIN, IF YOU WERE JUST GOING TO HAVE IT FLOW. YEAH. EVEN THAT SCENARIO, IT WOULD'VE GONE TO GREG. OKAY. OH, OKAY. IT JUST WOULD'VE BEEN SPECIFIC TO, TO THE, OKAY. FAIR. AND, AND TYPICALLY IF I CAN ADD, UH, EVEN WHEN WE HOST A TABLE AT AN EVENT, AND I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE APPROACH US WHILE WE ARE TRYING TO GIVE THE INFORMATION ABOUT CIEC, UH, UH, WITH CERTAIN, UH, STATEMENTS THAT THEY WANNA MAKE OR, UH, SOME ISSUES THEY MAY BE HAVING. USUALLY, UH, WE CAN TACTICALLY ANSWER THOSE THERE. UH, MY SUGGESTION TO THEM IS TO COME TO THE COMMISSION MEETINGS AND PRESENT WHATEVER THEY WANNA SPEAK ABOUT HERE. OKAY. SO EVERYONE CAN HEAR. SO THAT EVERYONE CAN HEAR ABOUT WHAT, 'CAUSE IF I TRY TO HANDLE THE QUESTION OR THE STATEMENT AT THAT POINT, I WOULD, I WOULD JUST BE ANSWERING FROM MY OWN EXPERIENCE, WHICH IS NOT COMPLETELY, IT DOESN'T, UH, ENCOMPASS, BASICALLY IT DOES, IT DOESN'T REPRESENT ALL THE DIVERSE VOICES WE HAVE HERE. LIKE IT ALSO PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY, IF SOMEONE HAS NO DESIRE TO COME HERE, THEY HAVE A SUGGESTION, THEY COULD EMAIL IT TO GREG AND AS HE SAID, HE WOULD INCLUDE IT IN THE PACKET FOR YOU ALL TO SEE. AND SO IT PROVIDES ANOTHER AVENUE, UH, AVENUE OF, OF INPUT FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO MIGHT NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE OR OTHERWISE WANT TO COME OUT ON A THURSDAY NIGHT AND, AND BE HERE. SO CALL, IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO SEND AN EMAIL FOR THE, THIS COMMISSION, IF THEY GO TO THE RICHARDSON WEBSITE, DO THEY HAVE A-C-I-E-C ON THERE? UH, IT, IT DOESN'T SAY CIC, BUT YES. IF YOU GO TO THE CIC PAGE, THE C COMMUNICATIONS, YEAH, YOU WILL FIND THAT CONTACT INFORMATION. OH, YOU BREAK UP THIS REAL QUICK, ALONG WITH ALL OF YOUR NAMES. YOUR NAME, YOUR NAME IS ON THERE. . YES. YOUR NAME. YEAH, YOUR NAME IS ON THERE TOO. . SO IF THAT'S GONNA BE A SURPRISE FOR ANYBODY WHEN HE PULL MIRACLE, FIGURE IT OUT. [00:40:07] SO ON THE WEBSITE, I WAS TRYING TO LOOK AT, UH, MY S AND COPY. SO PROBABLY STARTED THAT STILL THEY'VE SEEN IN THE APP. YEAH. STARTED THAT. RIGHT. OKAY. SO ON THE OTHER WEBSITE. ON THE WEBSITE, GOT IT. IT'S HARD TO DO. YEAH. GOT IT ALL. SO ALL THE, ALL THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS ESSENTIALLY USE THIS SAME SETUP AND YOU COULD EITHER CALL A PHONE NUMBER OR THIS ASK, WHICH SET AT COURT GOV. THIS IS OUR GENERIC ADDRESS. THIS COMES TO ME AS WELL. SO BASICALLY EVERY DAY I COME INTO MY, WHEN I SIT DOWN, THERE'S SOMETHING IN MY INBOX FROM SOMEBODY WITH A VARIETY. DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT THINGS. BUT THIS ESSENTIALLY IS A CATCHALL. AND SO IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, GO TO THE CIC PAGE, SEE WHAT ARE THE, YOU KNOW, HERE ARE THE DOCUMENTS FOR EVERYTHING COMING UP, OR HOW DO I, THEN THIS IS WHERE WE HAVE THAT. THANK YOU. LET'S SEE. FIGURE, START IT BACK. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS RELATED TO THAT? ALRIGHT, SO, UH, SCHEDULE NOVEMBER YEAR REVIEW FOR FUTURE TACTIC DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS TOUCH YOUR GOAL FOR CULTURAL SOCIETAL IMPACT ONGOING. BASICALLY EVERY NOVEMBER WE'LL GO OVER TACTICS FOR THE COMING YEAR AND WELL, WE'LL REVIEW, UH, BASICALLY ALL OF THESE AT IN NOVEMBER AND SEE WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO ACHIEVE, UH, SEE ANY UPDATES FOR THE ONGOING. AND THEN OF COURSE BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE WANT TO ACHIEVE FOR 2027. SO THAT'LL NOW BE PART OF YOUR NOVEMBER LIST, WHICH IS NOW ON YOUR MEETING CALENDAR. SO THIS IS THE MEETING CALENDAR FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR. EVERYTHING YOU SEE IN BLACK IS STUFF THAT ARE, TOPICS THAT ARE SET. THOSE ARE ON SCHEDULE. THE RED. I'M STILL TALKING TO FRISCO ABOUT WHICH DAYS THEY MAY BE AVAILABLE. THEY HAD THEIR, THEY HAVE THEIR MEETING COMING UP LATER THIS MONTH AND THEN THEY'LL LET ME KNOW, THEY'RE GONNA DISCUSS WHEN THEIR CHAIR COULD BE ABLE TO TALK. AND THEN, UH, WE'LL GO FROM THERE. THE PURPLE IS DEPENDENT ON WHEN FRISCO HAPPENS. SO IF FRISCO WERE TO HAPPEN IN MAY, THEN WE'RE, WE'LL TRY TO DEVELOP MOST ALL OF OUR TIME TO JUST FRISCO, WHICH MEANS WE'LL HAVE TO MOVE THE DOCTOR PROGRAMMING DISCUSSION WITH PARKS AND RECREATION TO A DIFFERENT DATE. AND THEN WE'LL JUST, YOU KNOW, VICE VERSA WITH ANY OF THE OTHER SCHEDULE ITEMS. ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MEETING CALENDAR? ALRIGHT, SO I GUESS, SO NOVEMBER FOR THE NOVEMBER PORTION, YOU SAY BREAK OVER THERE. IS THAT I, I FIGURED WE COULD TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT AS WE GET FURTHER INTO THE YEAR. THE QUESTION WILL BE IN NOVEMBER. ACTUALLY NO, THAT NEEDS TO BE GONE BECAUSE NOVEMBER IS OUR TIME TO TALK ABOUT STAFF. YEAH. SO I'LL, I NEED TO MAKE THAT EDIT. I'LL TAKE THAT OFF. ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES, SIR. HAVE QUESTION FOR THE, FOR THIS YEAR, ER, IS THERE ANYTHING VIA ANY INITIATIVE RELATED WITH THE WORK CUP INTERESTING THAT WE SHOULD DO HERE IN RICHARDSON? YEAH, SO WE CAN BY, I MEAN, ALL RICHARDSON CITIZENS TO COME HERE AND, I DON'T KNOW, WATCH A GAME. PROBABLY ONE OF THE PARKS OR THAT LAST, I DON'T KNOW, OR HERE, I DUNNO. SO THAT, THAT WORKS UNDERWAY. CITY COUNCIL WILL BE GETTING A BRIEFING ON THAT THAT NEXT WEEK, SOON. UH, IT'S WITHIN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS. I, I WANNA SAY IT'S, IT'S UH, IF IF NEXT WEEK'S MONDAY MEETING OCCURS, I CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS THERE OR IF IT'S IN FEBRUARY, BUT THAT WORK HAS BEEN UNDERWAY. WE, I THINK AT THE STAGE THAT WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW, KNOW THAT WE'RE, AND AND SINCE IT'S ALREADY GONE BEFORE COUNCIL, THAT, UH, WE WOULD NOT HAVE A CHANCE, THIS COMMISSION WOULD NOT HAVE A CHANCE TO REVIEW A PRESENTATION FROM THAT ONE'S GOING THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE MM-HMM. TO TALK ABOUT ALL THE, THE ACTIVITIES THAT ARE UNDERWAY FROM THE CITY TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT, THAT RELATED OUTREACH. BUT THIS, IT'S A GOOD, IT'S A GREAT QUESTION. THAT IS THE TYPE OF TYPE OF WORK. IT'S, IT'S QUICKLY COMING TOGETHER , WE DO TRY TO BRING, UH, [00:45:01] NEW PROGRAMS, PROJECT SERVICES, THINGS OF THAT NATURE BEFORE THIS COMMISSION TO GET YOUR INPUT, UH, TO BE ABLE TO TAKE THAT TO GO FORWARD TO, TO CITY COUNCIL. UM, SO AT, AT THIS STAGE, I WOULD SAY, UH, NO, BUT AGAIN, YOU COULD SEND ME, IF YOU HAVE IDEAS ON YOUR OWN, I'D BE HAPPY TO PUT THEM OVER TO THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND THEY CAN TAKE THAT SO PROMISING TO HEAR THAT THAT IS BEING, THAT THAT WORK IS BEING DONE LIKE THAT, THAT'S SOME OF, OR THOSE DISCUSSIONS ARE BEING HAD. YEAH. YEAH. AND A LOT OF THAT REALLY CENTERS ON, YOU KNOW, HOTEL MOTEL STAYS. WE'LL HAVE SOME VISUAL STUFF AROUND THE CITY. UM, WE'RE ON THE PERIPHERY OF A LOT OF THOSE ACTIVITIES. WE DO ANTICIPATE HAVING PEOPLE HERE, UH, AMONG TOPICS. CITY COUNCIL WILL ALSO RECEIVE POLICE FIRE, UH, THERE'S REGIONAL PLANNING FOR SAFETY AND THINGS LIKE THAT RELATED. SO THERE'S A LOT OF ASPECTS TO FIFA COMING TO TOWN THAT, THAT YEAH. THAT THEY'RE UNDER DISCUSSION. OKAY. THANK YOU. NO QUESTION. SAME QUESTION. IS THERE ANY I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD. IS THERE ANY, UM, HAVE YOU HAD ANY FEEDBACK ABOUT PEOPLE BEING CONCERNED ABOUT STATUS ISSUES? IT'S ON THE TOPIC OF POLICE AND FIRE, AGAIN, POLICE MORE ON THAT TOPIC. UH, IT'S, IT'S ONE OF THEIR DISCUSSION ITEMS THAT THEY ARE WITH ICE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE THAT THEY TALK ABOUT. I MEAN, THIS IS A BIG DEAL. YEP. BUT THAT'S PUB PUBLIC SAFETY IS THEY WORK WITH OTHER FEDERAL, FEDERAL AGENCIES AND THEY, THEY WORK OUT THEIR RESPONSE, THEIR LEVEL OF ACTIVITY, THINGS LIKE THAT. ARE WE ON THE SIDE OF OVER RESPONSE OR, UM, UNDER RESPONSE OR WE ARE NOT CONTRACTED. WE DO NOT HAVE A RELATIONSHIP. WE ARE, WE ARE NOT SEEKING ONE. UM, BUT IF FOR SOME REASON THERE WAS SOME SORT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT ACTION THAT NEEDED TO BE TAKEN, RPD WOULD RESPOND WITHIN THE LAW, BUT THEY'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT SEEKING A RELATIONSHIP TO OTHERWISE AID OR, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY HAVE THESE CONTRACTS THAT YOU CAN SIGN UP AND BE SORT OF SUBSIDIARY AND SEE WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT DOING OKAY. YEAH. 'CAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE TAKING AWAY 5-YEAR-OLD KIDS AND STUFF. YEAH. WELL, AND AND AGAIN, THAT'S NOT THE TYPE OF STUFF THAT WOULD COME BEFORE THIS COMMISSION ANYWAY. IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT PART OF OUR REVIEW. I, THE, THE AS COUNCIL MEMBER, THEY FOLLOW OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT WILL FOLLOW THE LAW. AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE EXTENT TO WHICH, YEAH. I MEAN I DO THINK, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITIES REPRESENTED ON THIS COMMISSION ARE RIGHTFULLY WORRIED ABOUT THIS. AND SO I JUST WANTED TO COMMUNICATE THAT THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT THE COUNCIL, UM, OR CITY STAFF ARE DIRECTING RPD IN ANY WAY TO, TO SORT OF AID BEYOND WE'RE FOLLOWING THE LAW. UM, THEY'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT SEEKING A RELATIONSHIP. I THOUGHT THERE WAS A QUESTION OVER. YES, YES. ANYONE ELSE ON THE, OKAY. I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. UH, REGARDING THE VOLUNTEER OPPORTUNITY DATES THAT YOU HAVE HERE. WE ALSO HAVE THE STATE OF THE CITY COMING UP CHANNEL 28. IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO PUT A TABLE THERE OR NO? WE, THE STATE OF THE CITY, WHILE OTHER STATES OF THE CITY AND OTHER CITIES WILL HAVE A, I DUNNO WHAT THEY CALL IT, BUT BASICALLY THEY'LL HAVE ALL THE DEPARTMENTS SET UP THEIR TABLES, KIND OF LIKE WHAT WE DO WITH NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERSHIP WORKSHOP OR GET ON BOARD WHERE OTHER, OTHER DEPARTMENTS, THAT'S NOT HOW CITY TO CITY IS PRESENTED. IT'S, IT'S TRULY FOCUSED ON THE SHOW. AND THEN AFTERWARDS THERE'S A RECEPTION. IT, IT HAS NOT BEEN DESIGNED TO HAVE THAT KIND OF INTER INTERACTION. OKAY. WHICH TYPICALLY, I MEAN, THEY DO ASK, I MEAN, RECOGNIZE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN PARTY OF BOARDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. RIGHT. I MEAN, I THINK, UH, OUR BOARD C CS MENTIONED THAT OUR COMMISSION GOT MENTIONED THE LAST TIME AS WELL. AND I THINK THIS TIME WE, WE COULD GET RECORDED HERE. YES. THE, UH, CIC AND BPAC ARE MENTIONED IN THIS YEAR. STATE OF THE CITY ADDRESS BRIEFLY. OKAY. UH, BUT THEY, WHEN THERE'S SPECIFIC TYPES OF WORK THAT TIE INTO CITY COUNCIL GOALS AND TACTICS, THAT'S WHAT REALLY DETERMINES HOW, WHAT GETS INCLUDED IN THE STATE OF THE CITY ADDRESS. OKAY. UH, THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD WAS FEB SECOND, UH, THERE IS A HEALTH, UM, UH, LIKE A MONTH LONG, UH, HEALTH INITIATIVE GOING ON IN THE CITY OF RICHARDSON. UH OH YEAH. THE GET HEALTHY TEXAS, YEAH. MM-HMM . YEAH. IS, IS, I GUESS THERE'S A COMBINATION TO THAT EVENT, UH, TO THAT ONE MONTH WITH SOME KIND OF AN EVENT. UH, IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO KIND OF GET IN FRONT OF THAT? I CAN, I CAN ASK PARKS AND REC. THEY DO HAVE SOME COMMUNITY EVENTS COMING UP. YEAH. THERE'S A COMMUNITY WALK. THAT'S THE CULMINATION. WE'VE USUALLY DONE IT AS THE KICKOFF IN JANUARY AND IT'S COLD AND NOBODY COMES. SO WE'VE MOVED IT TO THE END IN MARCH HOPING IT WON'T BE COLD AND MORE PEOPLE WILL COME. YOU GET LIKE A T-SHIRT OR A TUMBLR OR SOMETHING. AND SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S WORTH YOUR TIME TO COME WALK IF I . BUT YEAH, I MEAN I WOULD, I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK IT'S CONDUCIVE TO SETTING UP A TABLE, BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO COME AND TALK TO PEOPLE THAT SHOW UP AND OKAY. [00:50:01] BE INCLUDED AND ENGAGED IN OUR HEALTHIER TEXAS COMMUNITY CHALLENGE. MM-HMM . YEAH. I JUST WANTED TO ALSO BRING IT UP TO THE COMMISSION. THE STATE OF THE CITY IS JOHN 28TH IF YOU GUYS WANNA COME. AND THE, THE ONE MONTH, UH, HEALTH INITIATED THAT'S HAPPENING. I GUESS THE BEST PART IS, UH, COMMISSION GETS TO HEAR ABOUT IT FIRSTHAND AND YOU GUYS WANNA PARTICIPATE AND, YOU KNOW, ENCOURAGE YOUR NEIGHBORS. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT UP. WE CAME IN 10TH LAST YEAR AMONGST LARGE CITIES IN TEXAS. OKAY. WE THINK WE CAN DO NINTH. SO WE NEED REVIEW. RIGHT. SIGN UP AND, YOU KNOW, ENCOURAGE PEOPLE, IF YOU DRINK YOUR WATER, LOG IT, IF YOU DO A LITTLE, WALK AROUND THE BLOCK, LOG IT. IF YOU COME AS PART OF ONE OF THESE EVENTS, LOG IT AND YOU GET POINTS AND IT, THERE IS AN APP, THERE WILL BE AN APP THAT THE LAUNCH WAS DELAYED. IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE TUESDAY, IT'S NOW DELAYED TO FEBRUARY. 'CAUSE THERE'S A, A NONPROFIT IN THE STATE THAT PUTS THIS ON EVERY YEAR. UM, AND IF YOU HAVE A COMPANY BASED IN RICHARDSON, YOU CAN GET YOUR EMPLOYEES INVOLVED. UM, SO YEAH, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO IT. WE, WE LOVE IT. THE COUNCIL IS SUPER COMPETITIVE ABOUT IT, AND I THINK WE'RE THE HEALTHIEST WE EVER ARE FOR THIS ONE MONTH EVERY YEAR BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING . SO WE REALLY WANT YOU ALL. YEAH, IT'S A GREAT IDEA. COME TO THE WALK. UM, THERE ARE OTHER THINGS ON THE PARKS AND RECREATION WEBSITE YOU CAN LOOK UP. THERE'S A SCHEDULE OF FREE YOGA CLASSES. THERE'S FREE COOKING CLASSES, UH, OTHER FITNESS CLASSES THAT YOU CAN PARTICIPATE IN AT THE VARIOUS, UH, REC CENTERS. SO YEAH, IT'S A, IT IS, I LOVE THE PROGRAM. I MEAN, I WON IT LAST YEAR AMONGST THE COUNCIL. SO , YOU KNOW, THROWING DOWN THE GUIDANCE. I WAS GONNA SAY, NEAR AND DEAR, NEAR AND DEAR. LOVE IT. I LOVE IT. IT'S A LOT FUN. WELL, THANK YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION. AND I JUST, JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT AND SEE IF THERE WERE OPPORTUNITIES. RIGHT. SO, THANK YOU. SO ACTUALLY I THINK WE HAVE TO INTRODUCE THAT IF YOU WANNA INTRODUCE OH, YES. UH, SORRY ABOUT THAT. UM, SO LAST ON THE AGENDA TODAY IS TO REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE FLAG POLICY. AND, UH, GREG HERE WE WILL REVIEW THE FLAG POLICY WITH THE CIEC MEMBERS. GREG, PLEASE GO AHEAD. THANK YOU. UH, SO WE WANTED TO BRING BEFORE THIS COMMISSION A POLICY THAT'S UNDER DEVELOPMENT FOR THE CITY RELATED TO THE INTERNATIONAL WALL WITH FLAGS. IF YOU'VE BEEN THROUGH THE, TO THE CHAMBER AT CITY HALL, YOU WILL HAVE SEEN YES. THIS IMMEDIATELY AS YOU COME THROUGH THE DOORS. AND A QUESTION HAD COME UP RECENTLY FROM A GROUP THAT HAD VISITED REGARDING ONE OF THE FLAGS THEY TOOK EXCEPTION TO. AND SO WE HAVE, UH, TEMPORARILY REMOVED THAT FLAG SO THAT WE COULD CREATE A POLICY THAT WOULD BE ESTABLISHED TO UNDERSTAND AND FOLLOW RELATED TO WHAT GETS PLACED ON, ON THE FLAG WALL AND WHICH FLAG IS REPRESENTING THE COUNTRY. OKAY. AND SO BASED ON THAT, I'M GONNA RING BEFORE YOU THE DRAFT POLICY, TAKE YOUR INPUT AND ONCE, ONCE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE WILL INCORPORATE, UH, WHAT WHATEVER WE HAVE. AND THEN THIS, UH, POLICY WILL GO BEFORE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND UP FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION. AND THEN, UH, IF ADOPTED WOULD LEAD THE, THE FLAG WALL ESSENTIALLY AND WHAT WE USE FOR CEREMONIES OR HAVING AT, AT THIS FACILITY, BASICALLY WHERE THEY'RE SHOWN. SO WITH THAT, UH, HERE'S THE PURPOSE OF THE POLICY TO ESTABLISH CLEAR AND NEUTRAL STANDARDS FOR WHICH NATIONAL FLAGS APPEAR ON THE CITY'S INTERNATIONAL WALL. HOW FOREIGN NATIONAL FLAGS ARE DISPLAYED DURING OFFICIAL EVENTS, VISITS AND CEREMONIES AND CITY FACILITIES. THE POLICY PROTECTS DIPLOMATIC NEUTRALITY FOLLOWS US LAW AND INTERNATIONAL PROTOCOL IN SUPPORTS THE CITY'S RECOGNITION AS THE CENTER OF INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS. AND FOR OUR NEW MEMBERS HERE, UH, WE GET A LOT OF, WE HAVE A LOT OF INTERNATIONAL BUSINESSES LOCATED. IN FACT, WE'RE THE INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS CAPITAL OF NORTH TEXAS AS RECOGNIZED BY THE TEXAS STATE LEGISLATURE, INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS. AND, AND THE PEOPLE THAT COME HERE IS, IS A REGULAR THING FOR US. MM-HMM. AND SO THIS IS PARTIALLY WHAT WILL HELP US IN, IN THOSE EVENTS AS WELL. IT'S NOT JUST THE FLAG WALL, IT'S FOR WHEN WE HAVE VISITING DIGNITARIES, USUALLY THEY'LL BE IN THIS BUILDING AND WE'LL TAKE PHOTOS RIGHT OVER HERE. UH, SO FOR THOSE TYPE OF EVENTS AND OTHERS TAKE GREG A QUICK QUESTION. YES. SO THE FLAG DECISION OF HAVING A FLAG IS PURELY BASED ON WHAT BUSINESSES ARE RUNNING IN THE STATE OR, UH, NO, IN THE CITY. IN THE CITY. IN THE CITY. SO, OR WITH THE PEOPLE WHO ARE REPRESENTING ALL IMMIGRATED FROM DIFFERENT COUNTRIES. NO, IT'S, IT'S, UH, BECAUSE WE'RE THE INTERNATIONAL, SO IT'S TIED TO OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY AS THE, AND, AND IN FACT, ON THE FLAG WALL, OOPS, LET'S SEE THIS, [00:55:01] THIS IS A COPY OF THE RESOLUTION BY THE STATE LEGISLATURE, WHICH EXPLAINS THE CITY BEING THE INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS CAPITAL FROM TEXAS. AND EACH OF THESE FLAGS IS REPRESENTING THE BASE OF OPERATIONS FOR WHATEVER BUSINESS IS LOCATED HERE FOR THAT COUNTRY. UNDERSTAND. SO WE'VE TIED IT TO THE BUSINESS, COMMUNITY BUSINESS IN THAT SENSE. UH, SO HOW DID WE PUT THIS POLICY? IS THAT, IS THAT, I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, IS THAT BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT THE STATE OF TEXAS IS MANDATED OR THAT'S A CHOICE. NO, THAT'S A CHOICE WE MADE THAT WE NEEDED SOMETHING TO BASIC IT. 'CAUSE THERE'S A LOT. SO ANOTHER THING TOO IS FLAGS ARE EXPENSIVE. , WHICH I FOUND OUT WHEN WE WERE PUTTING THIS TOGETHER. BUT ESSENTIALLY WE NEEDED SOME, SOME REASON WHAT, WHAT COUNTRIES WE GONNA HAVE THERE. WE DIDN'T WANT IT TO BE JUST, OKAY, YOU JUST PUT A FLAG THERE. SO WE THOUGHT IT WAS REP, VISUALLY, REPRESENTATIVE OF THE RESOLUTION THAT IT WAS A GOOD WAY TO, TO DO THAT. AND SO THAT'S WHY WE HAD TIED IT TO, TO THE STATE RESOLUTION. OKAY. BUT IT IS BY CHOICE. IT'S NOT, THE RESOLUTION DOES NOT SAY, IF YOU SHALL PRESENT A FLAG THAT IT SHALL BE ONLY THESE FOR, FOR JUST A MATTER OF OUR COURSE OF DOING BUSINESS. WE NEEDED A REASON TO HAVE. SO THAT IF SOMEBODY WOULD ASK, WHY IS IT MINE THERE? WE COULD SAY, WELL THESE ARE TIED TO OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY. THAT'S WHY. MM-HMM . OKAY. SO THAT CHOICE WAS MADE TO TIE TO BUSINESS AS OPPOSED TO, TO TIE IT TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING HERE AND WHERE THEY MAY HAVE ORIGINATED FROM. RIGHT. UH, CORRECT. CONSIDERING THAT, WHO KNOWS HOW MANY AND, AND WHAT METHOD WOULD WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT EACH ONE OF THEM IS PURCHASED AND THERE AND, AND AVAILABLE. YES. SO, AND THESE BUSINESSES HAVE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF, UH, QUALIFYING FACTORS LIKE WHAT THE REVENUE, HOW MANY PEOPLE THEY RECRUIT, THAT KIND OF A THING. NO, THEY JUST NEED TO HAVE THEY SOME FORM. THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE HEADQUARTERED. OKAY. BUT HAVE SOME, SOME FORM OF THESE OPERATIONS HERE WITHIN THE CITY. YES. SO HOW DID WE COME UP WITH THIS POLICY? THERE ARE SEVERAL, FORTUNATELY THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT PLACES. WE BASICALLY LOOK TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BECAUSE THEY DO THIS ALL THE TIME. AND THERE ARE PROTOCOLS, SPECIFICALLY WHEN YOU'RE WORKING WITH ENTITIES LIKE THE UN AND OTHER PLACES, THAT THEY'VE GOT THIS WELL-DEFINED BECAUSE WE'RE NOT THE FIRST ONES TO COME UP WITH IT. UH, OR TO RUN INTO ISSUES WITH IT. SO WE LOOKED AT THESE AREAS. SO ONE IS U US FLAG CODE, CODE, UH, AND IT TALKS ABOUT THE POSITION IN THE MANNER OF DISPLAY PLATFORM GROUPINGS, PROCESSIONS, EQUAL HEIGHT, SIZE AMONG NATIONS, NO FLAG ABOVE ANOTHER IN PEACE TIME. THE UNITED NATIONS FLAG GOAL FLAG CODE TALKS TO PROTOCOL, UH, AND WHICH IS LEADING TO THE ALPHABETICAL ORDERING FOR NATIONAL FLAGS AND LINES. CLUSTERS AND SEMICIRCLE, WHICH IS WHAT WE'VE GOT. THE US DEPARTMENT OF STATE LISTS, UH, HAS THE LIST OF INDEPENDENT STATES RECOGNIZED BY THE UNITED STATES FOR ELIGIBILITY AND NAMING. AND THEN OF COURSE, THE CIA WORLD FACT BOOK GIVES US THE OFFICIAL FLAG, UH, THAT'S REPRESENTATIVE OF THAT COUNTRY. SO OUR GUIDING PRINCIPLES, THE CITY'S INTERNATIONAL FLAG DISPLAY FEATURES ONLY OFFICIAL, CURRENTLY RECOGNIZED NATIONAL FLAGS FOR SOVEREIGN COUNTRY. THE FLAG OF A HISTORIC, SO BEFORE THAT COUNTRY WAS INVENTED, IF IT WAS SOMETHING ELSE PRIOR TO THAT, UM, IF IT WAS A HISTORIC OR THE FLAG OF A CIVIL WAR, UH, A, A REGIONAL REGION, A MOVEMENT, POLITICAL PARTY, CORPORATE OR A COMMUNITY FLAG IS NOT DISPLAYED IN PLACE OF THE NATION'S OFFICIAL FLAG. AND THIS COMES FROM THE US DEPARTMENT OF STATE AND THE CIA RULE FACT BOOK. THE WAY I EXPLAIN IT, AND, AND THIS IS REALLY A GOOD EXAMPLE TO THE QUESTION THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE AND WHY ONE OF OUR FLAGS WAS REMOVED IS FROM A CIVIL WAR. SO IF WE WERE TO HAVE THE CONFEDERATE FLAG IN PLACE OF THE US FLAG AS FROM A CIVIL WAR, THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO RECOGNIZE, OR THAT, THAT, THAT FEEL STRONGLY PERHAPS FOR THAT, THAT FLAG. MM-HMM . AND WHY IS THAT FLAG NOT ALSO REPRESENTED ALL FINE IF YOU CAN PUT THE US FLAG WILL THIS SO, BUT THAT, THOSE TWO COUNTRIES, 'CAUSE IT'S TIME CIVIL WAR, THEY WERE TWO SEPARATE COUNTRIES. THEY, THEY CREATED THEMSELVES. THAT'S NOT AN ENTITY THAT'S IN EXISTENCE ANYMORE. AND THE FLAG THAT'S RECOGNIZED RIGHT NOW IS THE US THE US FLAG. AND SO WHILE THERE, THERE COULD BE ANY NUMBER OF DIFFERENT REASONS OUT, IT'S, IT'S GOING WITH THE OFFICIAL FLAG OF, OF THAT COUNTRY. UM, I DON'T KNOW ANY, ANY QUESTIONS, GUIDANCE QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. THIS IS ONLY IN GOVERNMENT BUILDINGS, RIGHT? NOT ANYWHERE ELSE. THESE GUIDING PRINCIPLES APPLY ONLY FOR THE GOVERNMENT BUILDINGS. IT WOULD BE FOR THE, SO THIS WILL BE THE CITY'S POLICY. AND SO IT WOULD BE THE [01:00:01] WAY THAT WE PRESENT, OR WHICH IN THIS CASE IT'D BE WHICH FLAGS DO WE PRESENT? I SEE IT'LL BE THE OFFICIALLY RECOGNIZED NATIONAL FLAG FOR THAT ENTITY AS BASED OFF OF THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE. AND CIA WILL FLAG, BUT NOT BASED ON HISTORIC, THE FLAG OF SOME OTHER REPRESENTATION THAT MAY HAVE BEEN INTACT AT THAT TIME, BUT IS NO LONGER, OR IS NOT OFFICIALLY RECOGNIZED. AND THE REPLACEMENT OF THESE FLAGS ARE ONLY CONCERNED WITH THE BUILDINGS THAT THE CITY OWNS OR RUNS BUSINESS WITH. LIKE CITY HALL, THIS FACILITY. YES. YES. WE WOULD FOLLOW THESE GUIDING PRINCIPLES WHENEVER WE TAKE, IF THEY WOULD TAKE THESE FLAGS AND PUT 'EM OVER HERE, IT WOULD FOLLOW THE SAME PROTOCOLS. YES. SO I HAVE, SO, EH, WERE THEY BREACHES AND FLAG GOING TO BE ACCOMMODATED UNDER THIS PRODUCT ARTICLE? IT WOULD HAVE TO BE TO THE FURTHEST TO THE RIGHT. SO THE PROTOCOL WOULD BE THE US FLAG IS THE HOST COMPANY. OKAY. WOULD BE FOR, SO, UH, I WANNA GO BACK TO THE, SO THIS, THIS IS A REALLY GOOD REPRESENTATION OF IT. US FLAG APPEARS ON THE LEFT AS THE HOST COUNTRY. OKAY. IF YOU WERE TO GO TO TAIWAN, CHINA, WHEREVER YOU WOULD FIND THEIR FLAG THERE. AND THEN OURS WOULD BE EITHER IMMEDIATELY, IF WE'RE VISITING AND THERE'S A SPECIAL EVENT, OURS WOULD BE IMMEDIATELY NEXT. MM-HMM . IF WE'RE VISITING AND WE'RE AMONG SEVERAL COUNTRIES VISITING, THEN IT WOULD BE THE HOST COMPANY'S FLAG. AND THEN IN THE ALPHABETICAL ORDER, THE FLAGS WILL BE HERE AFTER THAT. OKAY. AND THE RICHESON FLAG IS GONNA BE AT THE END, AND THEN YES. ONCE ALL YOUR COUNTRY FLAGS ARE PRESENTED. OKAY, THEN THE RICHESON FLAG WILL BE AT THE, BE AT THE END OF THAT ON THE RIGHT. THANK. AND THAT'S ALSO WHY, UM, LIKE IF, WHEN YOU GO, IF YOU GO TO THE STATE OF THE CITY, WHAT SOME PEOPLE LIKE TO DO BECAUSE THEY THINK IT'S VISIBLE, UH, AESTHETICALLY PLEASING IS THEY'LL EITHER BUILD, THEY'LL HAVE THE US FLAG IN THE MIDDLE. YEAH. AND THEN THEY'LL BUILD OUT LIKE THIS. AND THAT ACTUALLY GOES AGAINST THE PROTOCOLS AS WELL. YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO GO FROM LEFT TO RIGHT. AND THEN STATE, COUNTRY, STATE. COOL. THANK YOU. UH, OH. AND THIS ACTUALLY GETS TO FLAG MM-HMM . SO WHEN THE US FLAG IS DISPLAYED WITH OTHER NATIONAL FLAGS, THE CITY FOLLOWS THE US FLAG CODE. THIS REQUIRES THAT NATIONAL FLAGS BE ON SEPARATE EQUAL HEIGHT STAFFS AND APPROXIMATELY EQUAL IN SIZE. ALL OF OUR FLAGS ARE THE SAME SIZE. NOT ONLY THAT, BUT YOU'LL NOTICE THEY ALL HAVE THE SAME DESIGN. THE, THE FILM GOES AROUND THE EDGES. NO NATION'S FLAG MAY BE PLACED ABOVE ANOTHER IN PEACE TIME. THE US PLACE OF HONOR POSITIONING RULES APPLY FOR PLATFORMS AND GROUPINGS, WHICH ESSENTIALLY IS THAT LIFT THAT WAY POSITION. OKAY, GREAT. SO I THINK, YES. COULD YOU GO BACK TO THIS SLIDE FIRST WHERE YOU HAD THE EXPLANATION OF THE HISTORIC VERSUS THIS ONE? UM, THIS ONE I WANTED TO SAY LIKE, THIS MAKES SENSE TO ME BECAUSE I MEAN, WITH THE EXAMPLE THAT YOU GAVE, LIKE WITH THE CONFEDERATE VERSUS UNITED STATES, IF THE POLICY TODAY IS TO SAY WE ARE REPRESENTING FLAGS OF COUNTRIES OR PLACES THAT, UM, THAT HAVE BUSINESSES IN RICHARDSON. WELL, TECHNICALLY THERE IS NO FLAG. I MEAN, THERE IS NO BUSINESS THAT'S TIED TO THE CONFEDERATE, THE CONFEDERACY. 'CAUSE IT DOES NOT EXIST ANYMORE. YES. SO HERE'S, HERE'S HERE'S, WE DO HAVE A FLAG ON THE WALL THAT'S BEEN REMOVED. IT'S VIETNAM. I'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND SAY IT. OKAY. THE VIETNAMESE FLAG HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM OUR FLAG WALL BECAUSE A GROUP HAS COME IN, UH, FROM THEIR CIVIL WAR AND FEEL VERY STRONGLY ABOUT, ALRIGHT, IF YOU'RE GONNA PUT THE VIETNAM VIETNAMESE FLAG, YOU SHOULD ALSO PUT OURS. UM, AND SO THAT IS WHERE, WHERE THIS WHOLE DISCUSSION IS BEING DERIVED FROM. AND, AND JUST SO I HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING, SO IN THAT PARTICULAR CASE, IF WE USE THE VIETNAMESE FLAG, UM, AS WELL AS THE FLAG THAT I'M ASSUMING THAT WAS REPRESENTATIVE OF A PRIOR TO A WAR HAPPENING, SAME THING WITH THE US AND THE CONFEDERACY. UM, AGAIN, IF THE, IF, IF WE HAVE THIS DISPLAY OR WE'RE DOING THE, THE FLAGS, THE, THE BUSINESS IS TIED TO THE COUNTRY. SO I'M ASSUMING THE FLAG THAT THEY WANTED REPRESENTED, THERE IS NO, THERE IS NO OPERATIONS, THERE IS NO BUSINESS OPERATIONS TIED TO THAT PREVIOUS FLAG. SO WHAT THIS DOES IS IT HELP US, HELPS US TO OUTLINE SPECIFICALLY THAT. BECAUSE WHAT IF THAT COMPANY FELT THE SAME WAY AS THE GROUP WOULDN'T, OKAY. AND THEY'RE OVER HERE OPERATING, BUT THEY SUPPORTED ANY, YOU KNOW, ANY NUMBER OF THINGS. BUT THEN, UH, IF WE HAD [01:05:01] A GROUP COMING OVER THAT THEY'RE WITH OFFICIALS FROM THAT COUNTRY AS WELL AS THE BUSINESS LEADERS FROM THAT COUNTRY, AND THEN THEY SEE IT COULD CAUSE SOME ISSUES. YEAH. I, YEAH, I WAS TRYING TO THINK OF LIKE, THIS HELPS US LOCK IT DOWN. YEAH, THAT'S, YEAH. AND WHICH IS WHY I WAS, BECAUSE IF I'M READING CORRECTLY, JUST LIKE LOOKING AT THE POLICY, I THINK THAT WHAT WE HAVE MAKES SENSE TO, NOT, THAT WE CAN BACK THAT UP TO SAY, HEY, THIS IS A BUSINESS OP, THIS IS AN OPERATING BUSINESS IN RICHARDSON AND THIS IS WHY WE HAVE THAT FLAG. AND, AND ONE OF THE SLIDES WE HAVE COMING UP YEAH. IT'LL DEFINE WHICH FLAG TO, TO THAT POINT THAT THIS IS WHY WE USE THIS SPECIFIC FLAG INSTEAD OF AN ANOTHER. RIGHT. OKAY. UM, SO JUST FLAG CODE. WAIT, DID I GO OVER THIS ONE? YES. I THINK WE'RE AT THE YES, YES, WE DID. ALRIGHT. MM-HMM . SO THIS ONE, SO THIS IS A GOOD, THIS IS ACTUALLY IN THIS BUILDING AND YOU'LL SEE US FLAG TAKES ITS POSITION TO THE LEFT. THEN WE HAD TAIWAN GOING TO THE STATE OF THE CITY. AND THAT THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF THE TYPE OF EVENT. SO WHEN MULTIPLE FLAT FOREIGN NATIONAL FLAGS ARE SHOWN TOGETHER FOR RECEPTION, THE ORDER OF DISPLAY FOLLOWS COMMON INTERNATIONAL PRACTICE ENGLISH ALPHABETICAL ORDER CONSISTENT WITH THE UNITED NATIONS FLAG PROTOCOL. AND THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD FOLLOW. AND THIS JUST AGAIN, OUTLINES IT CREATES THAT RULE ON PAPER. ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? SO THE INTERNATIONAL WALL OF FLAGS AND A PERMANENT DISPLAY, A COUNTRY IS ELIGIBLE IF IT MEETS BOTH CONDITIONS. THE OFFICIAL REC RECOGNITION REFERENCE APPEARS ON THE US DEPARTMENT OF STATE'S INDEPENDENT STATES IN RULE LIST. SO BASICALLY, WHICH ONE? THE LOCAL NEXUS COUNTRY HAS COMPANIES WITH OPERATIONS OR HEADQUARTERS IN RICHARDSON AS DETERMINED BY THE CITY'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STAFF. THE DISPLAY MAY BE TEMPORARILY ALTERED IN CONSIDERATION OF SENSITIVITIES AND PROTOCOLS RELATED TO A SPECIFIC VISITOR DELEGATION OR EVENT. THIS IS HERE SPECIFICALLY FOR IF WE HAD A GROUP FROM CHINA COMING, THEY FEEL OR COULD FEEL, WE WOULD MAKE THE ASSUMPTION THAT THEY COULD FEEL VERY STRONGLY ABOUT TAIWAN. AND SO IN THAT EVENT, WE MAY, WE WE'LL HAVE IT ON PAPER, PART OF OUR PROTOCOL POLICY, WE MAY REMOVE THE TAIWAN FLAG JUST AS WE MAY REMOVE THE CHINA'S FLAG FLAG. IF WE HAD A GROUP FROM TAIWAN COMING OVER ONLY FOR THAT EVENT. ONLY FOR THAT EVENT, YES. AND WHAT, AND AND HOW DO WE DETERMINE, UM, THE, LIKE THE SENSITIVITY, LIKE HOW DO PEOPLE REPORT? IS THAT, ARE WE MAKING AN ASSUMPTION THAT, THAT SOMEONE WOULD BE SENSITIVE TO THIS? OR IS THIS BASED OFF SOMEONE SAYING, HEY, I AM WE, THIS IS, WE DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE SEEING THIS FLAG? USUALLY I'M THE ONE THAT UP DETERMINING. OKAY. AND I, BEING AWARE OF, FOR INSTANCE, UH, RUSSIA, UKRAINE, IF WE HAD A UKRAINIAN GROUP DELEGATION COMING OVER, IT WOULDN'T BE THAT INSTANCE OR THAT THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE WOULDN'T BE WRITTEN DOWN IN THE POLICY. BUT I WOULD BE AWARE OF WHAT POLITICS AND SO I WOULD PROBABLY MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION THAT, AND THIS POLICY, THIS WRITTEN IN THE POLICY WOULD ALLOW ME THE FLEXIBILITY TO DO SO. AND THAT ADVISING, UM, THAT, THAT'S, THAT WAS THE QUESTION THAT I HAD IS WHO IS YOUR END ADVICE? WHOM ARE YOU ADVISING OF THAT CHOICE? ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. OKAY. IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, BECAUSE THESE ARE BUSINESSES REPRESENTED, SO YOU'RE ADVISING THEM FOR THIS GUEST, I WOULD ADVISE YOU TO BLANK. AND THEN THEY MAKE THAT DECISION. CORRECT. OKAY. I'D HAVE THAT WITH THE DIRECTOR AND PROBABLY MEMBERS OF THE CITY MASTER'S OFFICE. YES, ABSOLUTELY. UH, SO I WANNA GO BACK TO THIS LOCAL NEXUS POINT. OVER HERE. IT SAYS, COMPANY HAS THE COUNTRY, THE COUNTRY HAS COMPANIES WITH OPERATIONS OR HEADQUARTERS IN RICHARDSON. I THINK I UNDERSTAND HEADQUARTERS. THAT PART IS UNDERSTANDABLE. OPERATIONS KINDA WANNA UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS. IS THAT, IS THAT A PHYSICAL PRESENCE OR IS THAT IF THEY HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL FROM THERE WHO IS PRESENT OVER HERE? SO FOR EXAMPLE, LET'S SAY THAT THERE'S COMPANY X LOCATED IN COUNTRY Y AND THEY HAVE ONE PERSON WHO IS IN RICHARDSON WORKING OUT FROM HIS HOME. WOULD THAT BE SUFFICIENT TO QUALIFY FOR BEING CONSIDERED AXXIS AND HAVE THEIR FLAG THERE? SO WHAT I'M HEARING IS WE NEED, WE PROBABLY NEED SOME STRONGER DEFINITION. I THINK SO, YEAH. I, I THINK WHEN I READ THIS, IT'S, TO ME IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE BIT HAZY. UM, A PHYSICAL OPERATION, A PHYSICAL PERSON, SOMEONE WORKING OUT FROM THEIR HOME, IS THAT CONSIDERED SUFFICIENT? HOW LONG ARE THEY PRESENT? THAT'S A GOOD POINT. ESPECIALLY POST COVID WHEN A LOT OF EMPLOYEES ARE WORKING FROM HOME. YEAH. MM-HMM . YEAH. YEAH. I MEAN, I WOULD THINK IT WOULD HAVE TO REACH THE, THE SORT OF CONSCIOUSNESS OF OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT IN SOME WAYS. SO TO YOUR POINT, GUY WORKING OUT OF HIS HOUSE, UH, THAT WE DON'T KNOW. THEY'RE OPERATING HERE BECAUSE HE IS WORKING OUT OF HIS HOUSE AND NOT OTHERWISE INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY. I THINK THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE SOME SORT OF THRESHOLD LIKE THAT, WHERE IT'S LIKE OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT IS AWARE, [01:10:01] THEY'RE INVOLVED IN THE CHAMBER. THERE, THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BRING AWARENESS, UH, SOME THRESHOLD. TO YOUR POINT, WE'VE GOTTA FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT IS. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THAT THRESHOLD. YES. YEAH. GOOD THOUGHT. UH, GOOD, GOOD POINT. I THINK THAT'S A, THAT'S ALSO A GOOD POINT THAT MAYBE IS IT'S A CHAMBER RECOGNIZED BUSINESS. WELL, NOT EVERY COMPANY IS INVOLVED IN THE CHAMBER BY CHOICE, SO, YOU KNOW, BUT YEAH, I THINK THE GREG CAN TAKE THAT AWAY AND FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW YEAH. IF IT'S SOMETHING BECAUSE, BECAUSE THIS WOULDN'T, AND DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY, WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH THEM OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. IT'S SIMPLY WE'VE BEEN BASING IT OFF OF, I I THINK IT'S PROBABLY RELATED TO SIZE OF OPERATIONS, BUT TO YOUR POINT, WE NEED TO DEFINE WHAT THAT SIZE IS. AGREED. BUT ALSO RIGHT. WITH THE REGISTRATION OF THE COMPANY MAY MAYBE THE, THE COMPANY IS NOT YEAH. BASED ON REGISTRATION. RICHARDSON JUST IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. RIGHT. BUT NOT RICHARDSON PER SE. SO, EH, WON WON'T APPLY FOR A PERSON WHO'S WORKING REMOTELY FOR A COMPANY. 'CAUSE THE COMPANY MAYBE HAS REGISTERED ITS BUSINESS NOT ONLY IN TEXAS, PROBABLY IN ANOTHER STATE. SO THEN ARE WE SAYING THAT THE THRESHOLD IS THAT THEY HAVE TO BE REGISTERED IN RICHARDSON? BECAUSE YOU COULD HAVE A COMPANY THAT'S REGISTERED IN RICHARDSON, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE A PHYSICAL PRESENCE AND THEY DON'T HAVE, UM, EITHER A PHYSICAL OR, UM, A HUMAN PRESENCE IN THE CITY OF RICHARDSON. RIGHT. OR MAJOR OPERATION IN RICHARDSON. RIGHT. WELL, IT COULD BE REGISTERED AGENTS ON THE STATE OF THE SECRETARY THAT HAS A RICHARDSON ADDRESS, BUT IT COULD JUST BE A PO BOX BOTH OFFICE. RIGHT, EXACTLY. SO, SO, AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE TWO THINGS. ONE, DETERMINED BY THE CITY'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT STAFF THAT TWO, THIS DISCUSSION LIKE REALIZES OR HELPS ME REALIZE WE NEED, WE NEED METRICS, SOME KIND OF TABLE TOGETHER. SO WE'LL, WE'LL ADD THAT WHEN WE, WHEN WE FINALIZE THE POLICY. THAT'S A VERY GOOD, VERY GOOD RECOGNITION. UM, AND THEN FINAL HERE, IF THE COUNTRY STATUS CHANGES, EITHER THE NAME RECOGNITION, THE SOLUTION OR MERGER OF THE CITY UPDATES THE DISPLAY BASED ON, WE POINT BACK TO THE CITY, THE STATE DEPARTMENT'S, UH, LIST, UH, NO, NO, NO, NO. SO INTERNATIONAL WALL OF FLAGS, PERMANENT DISPLAY VERIFICATION OF THE OFFICIAL FLAG STAFF VERIFIES THE CURRENT OFFICIAL NATIONAL FLAG DESIGN USING AUTHORITATIVE REFERENCES SUCH AS THE US DEPARTMENT OF STATE AND CA WORLD FLAGS OF THE WORLD. THEY BASICALLY, THE, THE STATE, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA DETERMINES IN THOSE DOCUMENTS WHICH FLAG IS TO BE USED MM-HMM . AND ITS OFFICIAL CEREMONIES. AND SO ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE WILL SAY IS WE WILL FOLLOW WHATEVER THE UNITED STATES OF IRAQ FOLLOWS. IF THE FLAG IS REMOVED FROM THE UNITED STATES LIST, HOW WILL YOU KNOW THAT WE HAD TO REMOVE THAT FLAG IN LOCAL BUILDINGS TOO? THE, SO BASICALLY THE DISSOLUTION OF A, THAT GETS BACK, I THINK, TO THE ONE BEFORE THE DISSOLUTION. IF A COUNTRY STATUS CHANGES, EITHER ITS NAME RECOGNITION, IT'S DISSOLVED, OR IT'S MERGED, THEN WE WILL USE THE STATE DEPARTMENT'S LIST. I THINK THE QUESTION IS WHO'S MONITORING THAT LIST? I, COME ON, THAT'S, BUT I THINK, I THINK IF SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPENS, IT'S USUALLY INTERNATIONAL. IT'S LIKE ALL OVER THE PLACE. SO IF I MAY BRING THIS UP, I MEAN, AND IT'S GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY COUNTRY DISSOLUTION, BUT, UM, FOR INSTANCE, NOKIA JUST PURCHASE INFINERA. INFINERA HAS AN, HAS THEIR, UH, I THINK THEY HAVE A BIG, UH, THEY HAVE AN OFFICE HERE IN RICHARDSON. YEAH. UH, DOES THAT MEAN THAT NOW THE FINNISH FLAG WOULD BE PART OF THIS? YES. IF THEY HAVE LARGE OPERATIONS HERE. AND THEY'VE, YOU SAID NOKIA BOUGHT WHO? NOKIA BOUGHT INFINERA, WHICH WAS, WHICH IS AN AMERICAN COMPANY. BUT NOKIA IS A FINN ACTUALLY, I THINK WE HAVE FINLAND ALREADY UP THERE. BUT WHEN I BECOME AWARE OF THINGS LIKE THIS TOO, IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADD. OH. UH, SO MAYBE I'LL ACTUALLY ADD SOMETHING OVER HERE IS, I KNOW THAT GREG MENTIONED THAT IT'S EXPENSIVE. I DO, WE DO REALIZE THAT IT'S EXPENSIVE. I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A ROLE THAT SAYS THAT, YOU KNOW, IF THERE IS A NEW COUNTRY OR NEW BUSINESS, THEN MAYBE PERHAPS THEY SHOULD REQUEST, THEY SHOULD, UH, CONSIDER THE CITY PROACTIVELY TRYING TO DO IT. MM-HMM . YEAH. THEY, THEY SHOULD KIND OF DO A COST SHARING. YOU KNOW, THE CITY PAYS 50% AND THEY PAY 50%. I DON'T KNOW, , MAYBE WE COULD BUILD, BUILD THAT INTO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ELSE. UM, SO, SO I THINK THAT BRINGS UP A GOOD POINT. IS, UH, SHOULD THE CITY PROACTIVELY UPDATE THIS? OR SHOULD YOU HAVE JUST AN INBOX WHERE SOMEBODY COULD, UH, A COMPANY COULD ACTUALLY COME AND REQUEST EITHER THROUGH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT? WE, WE, SO THIS ACTUALLY COMES UP, THIS TOPIC COMES UP A HANDFUL OF TIMES A YEAR [01:15:01] JUST OUT OF NORMAL COURSE OF REGULAR BUSINESS BETWEEN CHRIS AND I, UH, OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR. AND, YOU KNOW, I'LL SAY, OKAY, WHO'S COMING HERE? WHAT'S GOING ON? WE ALSO HAVE DIFFERENT LISTS THAT WE'LL, WE'LL SAY, ARE THIS MANY INTERNATIONAL COMPANIES ARE LOCATED HERE, THINGS LIKE THAT. SO IT DOES ON A FAIRLY REGULAR BASIS. NOW, THE IDEA OF, UH, IS THERE A PLACE THAT A COMPANY COULD SET UP TO LET US KNOW, HEY, WE'RE IN TOWN. CAN YOU PUT OUR FLAG ON THE WALL? I MEAN, IT COULD, IT COULD GO INTO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR SURE. UM, WE COULD, I COULD LOOK AT ADDING, I, I'M TRYING TO THINK HOW I WOULD DO THAT. I, I'D HAVE TO FIGURE THROUGH BUILDING INSPECTION. I DON'T KNOW IF BUILDING INSPECTION THEY HAVE TO GET A COUNTRY OR NOT. IT'S, UM, SOMETHING I'D HAVE TO LOOK INTO . SO IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT I THINK, THE REASON I BRING IT UP IS IF YOU, IF THE CITY'S PROACTIVELY DOING IT, SOMETIMES I GUESS IT GETS INTO SITUATION WHERE THE CITY COULD BE PENALIZED BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT ON TOP OF THINGS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I THINK IT'S JUST A, IT IS JUST SOME, BESIDES, IT'S A COST SHARING. IT'S THE OPPORTUNITY SHARING WITH SOMEONE ELSE THAT IF YOU BRING IT UP, WE WILL, WE WILL LOOK INTO IT INSTEAD OF THE CITY CONSTANTLY SAYING THAT WE ARE GOING TO PROACTIVELY KEEP THIS UP TO DATE BECAUSE WE MAY MISS SOMETHING. WELL, WE MAY, WE WE, WE MOST DEFINITELY WILL MISS SOMETHING. BUT IT'S ALSO ASSUMING THAT THE, THE OTHER, THE COMPANY MOVING IN KNOWS ABOUT THIS. RIGHT. IN SOME CASES THEY MAY NOT EVEN KNOW THAT. AND THAT'S, AND THAT'S THE VINCENT GOT A REQUIREMENT, A LEGAL REQUIREMENT FROM THE STATE. RIGHT. SO, BUT IT'S, I THINK IT'S, UH, IT'S THIS, IT'S WHAT THE CITY PUTS FORTH. IS THIS SOMEWHERE ON YOUR WEBSITE? LIKE IT'S ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. OKAY. THIS ISN'T THOUGH. 'CAUSE YOU'RE OH, NO, NO, NO, NO. IN THE PROCESS OF NOW IT'S IN DRAFT. OH, IS THE POLICY? NO. YEAH, NO, THIS IS, SO IF THE POLICY IS PUBLISHED, I GUESS WE JUST HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WITH WHAT IS THE POLICY REALLY. UH, TAKING ON IN, IN SENSE IN, IN, IN, IN, BASICALLY IN SENSE OF A RESPONSIBILITY. RIGHT. YEAH. IT'S, SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU, BUT IT'S A VALUE ADD FOR THE CITY TO DEMONSTRATE THE INTERNATIONAL FLAVOR AND SENSITIVITY. YEAH. IF THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY, BUT TO, THE CITY WANTS TO CONSTANTLY OKAY. TO MONITOR THE BUSINESS ARENA CONSTANTLY AND LOOK AT MERGERS AND ACQUISITIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I, I THINK THAT'S WHAT, UM, GREG IS THINKING OF. WHERE'S THE ENTRY POINT OR WHERE'S THE INTAKE? YEAH. THAT FIRST CATEGORY IS HOW DO WE DETERMINE WHAT THE THRESHOLD IS? AND THEN FROM THERE, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. YEAH. IT'S ALL REFINEMENT. AND THEN MAYBE EVEN ADD LIKE A, A TIME DURATION. LIKE THESE THINGS ARE NOT GONNA BE REFLECTED LIKE RIGHT AWAY. IT'S THE RIGHT. LIKE, YEAH. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING AS LIKE A CAVEAT AS WE'RE LOOKING AND DEFINING THAT THRESHOLD AND EVEN GIVING LIKE A GRACE PERIOD OR SOMETHING. SO FOLKS DON'T GET INTO THE MINDSET TO EXPECT TO SEE IT AS SOON AS AN ANNOUNCEMENT. LIKE NOKIA, NOKIA JUST BOUGHT THE COMPANY. IT'S BEEN A, SOMEONE'S EXPECTING TO SEE THIS FLAG, UH, BECAUSE THERE'S A ORDERING PROCESS. THERE'S A CROSS PROCESS BEHIND IT. SO, SO AT LEAST, UH, GRAY SPEAR, SIX MONTHS, THE TEXT. YEAH. UM, UH, THIS, THIS SPECIFIC THING HAPPENED ABOUT A YEAR AGO, BUT THEN, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST, JUST IF THEY HAVEN'T BROUGHT IT UP, UH, I MEAN, IF WE HAVE THE FINISHED LEG, IT'S GOOD, BUT THEY HAVEN'T BROUGHT IT UP. I MEAN, WHAT'S TO SAY THAT GOT TO STAY ON TOP OF IT? I THINK THE DEFINITION OF THAT, UH, INITIATION, WHAT INITIATES IT, THAT TRIGGER. AND IT'LL DEFINITELY BE TIMES WHEN SOMEBODY'S COMING IN FROM ONE OF THOSE THAT THEY'LL LOOK AT THE WALL AND THEY'LL SAY, HEY, WHERE'S OURS? AND WE'RE LIKE, OH, YOU JUST OPENED A 200 PERSON BUSINESS HERE, AND YOU COME AND SAY HI. AND, AND HOW EMBARRASSED, YOU KNOW, COLOR ME EMBARRASSED. WE DIDN'T CATCH THAT. UM, THOSE ARE GONNA HAPPEN. BUT, BUT YES. WELL, WE, WE DO DO THE BEST WE CAN TO MAKE SURE WE'RE UP TO DATE. AND I ALSO ASSUME THAT IF SOMEBODY EXITS, THEN THEY'RE FLYING CLOSED . YEAH, THEY GO, USUALLY THEY'LL BE MORE APT TO TELL US, HEY, WE'RE IN TOWN. AND THEY USUALLY DISAPPEAR IF THEY'RE GOING TO A LOT MORE SILENTLY. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE MONITORING ACTIVELY. AND IF WE SEE THAT SOMEONE'S DIS WE, WE WILL KNOW ABOUT THE BIG ONES. SO IF THE ONE COUNTRY, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S ONE COUNTRY THAT'S ONE BIG BUSINESS FROM THE COUNTRY THAT'S THERE, AND THEN IT'S LIKE, OH MY GOODNESS. OR LEAVING TOWN, YOU KNOW, THEN, THEN, THEN WE WOULD BE MORE AWARE OF LINCOLN 10 WOULD THROW THE FLAG. UH, OKAY. SO VERIFICATION OF THE OFFICIAL FLAG STAFF VERIFIES THE CURRENT OFFICIAL NATIONAL FLAG DESIGN USING A ATORY. DID WE ALREADY GO THROUGH THIS? YES. OKAY. SORRY. UH, [01:20:03] I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT NO, WE DIDN'T COVER THIS. YEAH, WE DIDN'T, WE LAST WE WERE OUTWARDS THE NOTION VERIFICATION CREDIT. YEAH, I DON'T THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THIS ONE. THERE WAS FLAG, SO, OKAY. ALL RIGHT. GOTCHA. SO, VERIFICATION OF OFFICIAL FLAG STAFF VERIFIES THE CURRENT OFFICIAL NATIONAL FLAG DESIGN USING A NEW NAME REFERENCES. WE WERE JUST ON THIS ONE DEPARTMENT OF STATE, CIA WILL FACT THAT THOSE ARE THE FLAGS WILL, WILL USE FROM THOSE, THOSE REFERENCES PROHIBITED SUBSTITUTIONS. THE CITY WILL NOT SUBSTITUTE A HISTORIC CIVIL WAR REGIONAL COMMUNITY OR MOVEMENT FLAG FOR THE OFFICIAL FLAG OF A RECOGNIZED COUNTRY ON THE INTERNATIONAL. AND THAT, THAT AGAIN, SETS ON PAPER. UH, THE REASON WHY THE FLAG THAT'S UP THERE IS, IS UP THERE. UM, SO FISCAL STANDARDS FOR THE PERMANENT WALL UNIFORMITY, ALL FLAGS ARE ON THE WALL, ARE THE SAME. I FEEL LIKE WE'VE GOT, DID I, I FEEL LIKE I HAVE A PAGE. IT'S HIGHER REPETITIVE. YEAH. UM, SAME SIZE HEIGHT ARRANGEMENT FOR FIXED PERMANENT GROUPINGS WHERE A SINGLE ROW IS USED FOR NATIONAL FLAGS ARE ARRANGED IN ENGLISH ALPHABETICAL ORDER BY SHORT COUNTRY NAME. IF THE US FLAG APPEARS IN THE SAME GROUPING, APPLY US FLAG CODE PLACE ON A RULE, WHICH IS LEFT MAINTENANCE FLAGS ARE KEPT CLEAN AND DAMAGED AND REPLACED FROM WORN DISPOSAL FOLLOWS ACCEPTED US PRACTICES FOR UNSERVICEABLE FLIES. UM, WE DID ACTUALLY RUN INTO THIS, THE MAINTENANCE, WHEN WE HAD THE FIRE AT CITY HALL, ALL OF THESE FLAGS HAD SMOKE DAMAGE MM-HMM . SO WE HAD TO GO THROUGH THE EXPENSE OF GETTING THEM CLEANED. UM, AND SO THAT, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE THAT ONE ACTUALLY, THAT WAS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE, THE, THE, I THINK THE STATE DEPARTMENT HAD IT ON THEIRS, BUT IT, IT MADE ME THINK OF THAT. AND SO WE HAVE HAVE THAT HERE AS WELL. MM-HMM . ANY QUESTIONS HERE? HOW OFTEN DO THE MAINTENANCE HAPPEN? MAYBE BASICALLY IS IF I SEE ONE OR SOMEBODY SEES ONE THAT SAYS, HEY, THIS IS, THIS IS SPRAY, OR THIS FLAG'S LOOKING A CERTAIN WAY, UH, WE WOULD BASE IT ON THAT. IT, IT JUST, IT'D BASED ON BOOKS. IF WE WERE TRANSPORTING IT HERE AND THEN WE WOULD TRANSPORT IT BACK AND IT FELL ON THE GROUND AND MUD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IF WE COULDN'T CLEAN IT, THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF LIGHT SLIP. UH, JUST FOR MY INFORMATION IS A VENEZUELAN FLAG ON THE IN THERE. I DON'T RECALL SEEING, IN FACT, I WOULD SAY NO, IT'S NOT BECAUSE THE LAST FLAG ON THE WALL IS UNITED KINGDOM AND THAT'S, SO, NO, WE DON'T HAVE ANY VENEZUELAN FLAGS. BUT THAT'S SIMPLY BECAUSE THERE'S NO VENEZUELAN PISTOLS. YEAH. WE'RE NOT AWARE OF ANY VENEZUELAN BUSINESSES, UH, SO FAR IS WHAT WE'VE DETERMINED, WHICH WE WILL, WILL CREATE BETTER RULES FOR. BUT YEAH, SO FAR AS WE'VE DETERMINED THERE'S NOTHING OR NO BUSINESSES FROM VENEZUELA THAT ARE LARGE ENOUGH THAT HAVE CAUGHT OUR ATTENTION. UH, TEMPORARY DISPLAYS. WHEN DID DISPLAY FOREIGN FLAGS? TEMPORARY DISPLAYS ARE APPROPRIATE FOR OFFICIAL VISITS. GOVERNMENT DIPLOMATIC OR TRADE DE DELEGATIONS AND CITY HOISTED SER HOSTED CEREMONIES INVOLVING FOREIGN PARTNERS. TEMPORARY DISPLAYS MAY BE CUSTOMIZED IN CONSIDERATION. I THINK I'VE ACCIDENT ONLY PUT SOME SLIDES IN TWICE. THIS, THIS GOT TO THE REMOVAL OF THE TAIWAN, CHINA, UM MM-HMM . YEAH, I THINK, I THINK WE'VE ALREADY GONE OVER THIS. MM-HMM . SEPARATE STAFF, SEQUEL HEIGHTS, NO NATIONAL FLAG PLACED ABOVE ANOTHER, EVER PLACED ANOTHER NATION'S FLAG IN THE SAME ARD AS THE US FLAG FOR, FOR UNDERSTANDING. I, FOR THE TEMPORARY, THIS, IS THIS WHAT WE'RE CONSIDERING A TEMPORARY DISPLAY? OR IS A TEMPORARY, TEMPORARY DISPLAY SOMETHING BIGGER OTHER THAN THE WALL? I MEAN, SORRY, THE FLAT WALL. IT WOULD, THE TEMPORARY DISPLAY WOULD BE SOMETHING WE'RE DOING SPECIAL FOR A DELEGATION, WHETHER WE'RE COMING TO THIS BUILDING OR CITY HALL. OKAY. SO IF WE KNOW, AGAIN, CHINA TIME ONE IS PROBABLY THE EASIEST TO I SEE. OKAY. YEAH. IF THEY'RE COMING HERE, IT'S EASY BECAUSE ALL WE DO IS WE TAKE ONE OF THOSE FLAGS FROM THAT WALL, WE BRING IT OVER HERE, WE SET UP THE PHOTO, WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT. MM-HMM . IF A CHINA OR A TIME WHEN THESE DELEGATION WAS COMING TO CITY HALL AND I WAS AWARE OF IT. RIGHT. I WOULD, I WOULD REMOVE ONE OF THOSE FLAGS SO AS TO NOT UPSET THE GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS OR OTHERS THAT WHEN THEY WALK INTO THAT ROOM, THAT UH, THEY MAY HAVE A CERTAIN ADVERSITY TO IT. OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE. AND MAYBE IT'S COMING IN THE FUTURE SLIDES, BUT I DON'T KNOW. 'CAUSE WE TALK ABOUT PUTTING THEM UP TEMPORARILY, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT SAYS ANYTHING ABOUT REMOVING THEM TEMPORARILY OR MAYBE I HAVE, BUT THE WAY I UNDERSTOOD TEMPORARILY HIGHLIGHT IS THAT IF THERE'S A SPECIFIC DELEGATION COMING FROM, LET'S SAY, A COUNTRY THAT IS NOT ALREADY ON THE WALL OF FLAGS. RIGHT. LET, LET'S FOR EXAMPLE, VENEZUELA AND NOT, NOT [01:25:01] TO PICK IN VENEZUELA, BUT FOR SOME REASON I THINK IT'S COME UP. BUT LET'S SAY IF THERE WAS A BUSINESS FOR VENEZUELA COMING, THEN I WOULD ASSUME THAT YOU WOULD HAVE THE FLAG. OH YEAH. YEAH. MM-HMM . I THINK THAT'S WHAT TEMPORARY MEANS IN MY OKAY. AND THEN IT WOULD GO AWAY BECAUSE, WELL, THERE'S NO BUSINESS. OKAY. OH, SORRY, SORRY, SORRY. I THINK, I DON'T THINK I'M UNDERSTANDING. I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT CORRECTLY. SO WE, IN THAT SITUATION, WE JUST WOULDN'T EVEN KNOW. WE DON'T OWN A VENEZUELAN FLAG. OKAY. UM, AND SO YEAH. WE, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO PLACE THAT CASE. SO TEMPORARY THEN MEANS SOMETHING ELSE? YEAH. SPECIFICALLY REFERENCE TO TO THE EVENT. YES. YEAH. TO THOSE EVENTS. YEAH. AND, AND SO, SORRY AMY, I KNOW YOU POINTED OUT IN THE YELLOW, BUT TO ME, I JUST, TO ME IT DOES NOT, IT, WHEN I THINK OF DISPLAY, IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE DISPLAYING SOMETHING NOT NECESSARILY TAKING SOMETHING AWAY. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT YELLOW STILL HITS ON THE POINT THAT I WAS SAYING. YES. AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS WRITING DOWN JUST NOW. 'CAUSE WHERE YOUR, YOUR, YOUR POINT GETS TO THIS, THIS DISPLAY, THE PERMANENT DISPLAY MM-HMM . I, I THINK IS, IF I'M UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY, SO HOW DO WE DETERMINE ON THE PERMANENT DISPLAY THIS, THE TEMPORARIES SOUND EASY? YES. IT'S THIS ONE THAT'S WE NEED TO DEFINE. YEAH. LIKE IF WE'RE, LIKE IN YOUR, IN YOUR EXAMPLE THAT IF THERE IS A SENSITIVITY AROUND A FLAG THAT WE'RE RELIEVING TEMPORARILY, I JUST DIDN'T SEE THAT CAPTURED. BUT I MAY JUST BE MISINTERPRETING IT WRONG. 'CAUSE I THINK WHAT'S WRITTEN IN YELLOW JUST SAYS THEY MAY BE CUSTOMIZED IN CONSIDERATION, BUT I DON'T THINK OF LIKE THAT BEING LIKE, UNLESS WE'RE SAYING CUSTOMIZATION MEANS REMOVAL TEMPORARILY. I, I, IT'S, IT'S, I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT THAT. YEAH. AND SO I, I, I WAS ALWAYS THINKING ABOUT IT. AND WHEN I, 'CAUSE I'M WE'LL SET THEM UP. I, I DIDN'T REALLY THINK ABOUT REMOVING, SO THAT'S WHY IT'S MISSING HERE, BUT THANK YOU. OKAY. WELL, WE, WE'LL, IT WAS JUST, JUST ABOUT OUT THERE FOR THE GET, SO I THINK, UH, GREG, I THINK PROBABLY THIS, UH, MAYBE A RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THIS NEEDS TO BE DONE USING A MEMO IN THE SENSE LIKE, SOMEBODY HAS TO SIGN THIS OFF, LIKE SOME AUTHORITY IN THE CITY, RIGHT? I MEAN, OR TWO, LIKE A TWO FACTOR AUTHENTICATION. LIKE TWO PEOPLE ARE SIGNING IT OFF. SO IT LOOKS LIKE A, LIKE A THOUGHT OUT, WELL THOUGHT OUT DECISION TO EITHER PUT A FLAG IN OR TO REMOVE THE FLAG. RIGHT. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS A, A, A FORMAL PROCESS, KINDA A FLOW CHART THAT SAYS IF SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPENS, THEN TWO DEPARTMENTS OR OR TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS OR, UM, THE CITY MANAGER AND THE CITY DEPARTMENT DECIDE, AND THEY BOTH SIGN OFF AND THEN THE FLAG IS TAKEN INSTEAD OF JUST SAYING, OH, SOMEBODY HAD A PROBLEM, WE, WE REMOVED IT. UM, I, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE NEEDS TO BE A CLEAR CUT PROCESS SO THAT EVEN WHEN A CITIZEN LIKE ME WALKS IN AND HAS THROWS A HISSY FIT ON SOMETHING, THEY NEED TO KNOW THAT THERE IS A PROCESS THE CITY FOLLOWS. YOU CAN'T JUST POINT AT A FLAG AND SAY, REMOVE IT AND OFF IT GOES. JUST UNTIL I'VE HAD, I'VE STOPPED HAVING MY FIT. LIKE AN SOP RIGHT. LIKE A STANDARD OPERATION PROCEDURE. YES. SOP AND A, UH, A PROCESS THAT'S FOLLOWED, MAYBE A PROCESS DOCUMENTS NEEDED AND A AND THAT HAS A PROPER FLOW CHART THAT SAYS IT NEEDS TO BE SIGNED OFF BY THE CITY MANAGER AND THE MAYOR OR THE CITY MANAGER COUNCIL OR CITY MANAGER, SUBSIDY DEPARTMENT. USUALLY IT'S TWO SIGN OFFS BECAUSE THE TWO BALANCE OFF MM-HMM . DECISIONS THAT ARE BEING MADE IN THE HEAT OF THE SITUATION. SO WHAT IF IT WERE TO SAY THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED FOR REMOVAL UPON THE VISITATION OF A GOVERNMENT DELEGATION? NOT NECESSARILY BUSINESS, BUT IF THERE'S GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS COMING FROM CHINA, TAIWAN, THAT WAY IT CAN'T BE JUST ANYBODY ELSE, BUT IT WOULD HAVE A POLITICAL SENSITIVITY BASED ON THAT KIND OF RELATIONSHIP. SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YEAH. AND IT, BUT IT WOULD BE A DISCUSSION AMONGST THE CITY, UH, STAFF AND BASICALLY THE CITY GOVERNMENT TO KIND OF DECIDE, WE, WE ARE GONNA SIGN THIS AND SAY WE ARE GONNA REMOVE IT. SO, SO THAT EVEN IF CHINA COMES IN AND TAIWAN COMES MARCHING RIGHT BEHIND THEM, AND THE TWO ARE HAVING A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT WAS REMOVED AND WHY. I MEAN, THERE'S A PROCESS THAT THE CITY FOLLOWED AND THIS IS HOW, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT, HOW DO YOU CALL IT? CITY DIPLOMACY HAPPENS. I, I THINK WE CAN BUILD THAT. THAT'S A GOOD POINT. AND SO I'LL, I'LL BUILD INTO THE POLICY BASED ON THE TYPE OF VISITATION SO IT COULD HAVE SOMETHING WRITTEN DOWN SO THAT IT'S, IT'S STILL NOT EVEN UP TO A DISCUSSION. IT'S WRITTEN AS TO THIS TYPE OF YES. MM-HMM . BECAUSE I CAN EASILY SEE, I MEAN, NOT TO BRING UP THE SENSITIVITIES IN THIS MEETING, BUT, UH, PALESTINE VERSUS ISRAEL. I MEAN, WE'VE HAD THOSE DISCUSSIONS, WE'VE HAD ISSUES ON THE CAMPUS. UH, YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW DO WE NOT GET CAUGHT UP IN THOSE, I MEAN, THE MAIN THING IS NOT, NOT JUST TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE SENSITIVITIES, BUT ALSO FOR THE CITY TO NOT GET CAUGHT UP IN THOSE SENSITIVITIES. HOW DOES THE CITY PROTECT AGAINST [01:30:01] THOSE KIND OF THINGS HAPPENING? YEAH. I MEAN, I THINK THIS POLICY IN PARK DOES THAT, BUT I THINK TOO, TO YOUR POINT, YOU KNOW, SHOULD THAT REST JUST ON YOUR SHOULDER? SHOULD IT BE JUST GREG WHO DECIDED? AND SO I THINK THAT'S THE IDEA. SHOULD IT BE GREG MAKING, YOU KNOW, AT THE INITIAL RECOMMENDATION TO SOMEONE ELSE WHO FIND DON AND HE SIGNS OFF FOR, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I THINK THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING. YEAH. THERE'S A PROTOCOL THAT FOLLOWED AND WE CAN REALLY SORT OF DOCUMENT THEM, SAY YEAH. BECAUSE ITS QUITE SENSITIVE ROLE. YEAH. AND I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY THIS IS IN FRONT OF US BECAUSE THIS IS A VERY SENSITIVE TOPIC. MM-HMM . THE DURATION WHEN TO PUT BACK SHOULD BE INCORPORATED INTO THIS PROCESS TOO. YEAH. I THINK, UH, PERHAPS EVEN LOOK AT HOW THE UN MAKES CERTAIN, UH, WHAT IS THEIR PROCESS WHEN THEY TAKE IT DOWN? I, I KNOW YOU ALSO COMING UP ON A SLIDE THAT SAYS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU PUT IT TO HALF STAFF? THAT THAT IS A PROCESS ITSELF, I THINK MM-HMM . UH, BECAUSE I THINK EVEN FOR US AS A COMMISSION TO REVIEW THIS, I, I JUST SUDDENLY FELT THIS BIG BURDEN OF RESPONSIBILITY ON MY SHOULDERS. . BUT I MEAN, I TOTALLY AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT I THINK, I THINK THAT DECISION SHOULD NOT REST IN ONE PERSON. SHOULD BE CLEAR PROCESS. IT SHOULD BE A, A FRAMEWORK. YEAH. UNDERSTANDABLE. BUT, UH, SHOULD BE A SEVERAL SIGNATURES BEFORE SOMETHING COMES UP OR GOES DOWN MM-HMM . AND NOT JUMPING TO AHEAD GREG, BUT YOU, YOU DO MENTION SOMETHING LIKE THIS FOR PUBLIC REQUEST ON, UM, IT'S LIKE A COUPLE OF PAGES AFTER THE TEMPORARY DISPLAY. AND SO IT DOES HAVE A, UM, TO SUBMIT IN WRITING TO THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE IF THERE IS SOMEONE FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WANTS TO CHANGE THE INTERNATIONAL WALL. BUT KIND OF GOING BACK TO LIKE MORE OF THAT GOVERNANCE OF WE WANT TO HAVE THE PUBLIC BEING ABLE TO SUBMIT, OR ARE WE ONLY GOING TO DO REMOVALS IF THERE IS THAT DELEGATION FROM ANOTHER COUNTRY? SO I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF IF THERE'S ANY THOUGHT BEHIND THAT, BECAUSE I DON'T WANNA JUMP AHEAD FROM WHAT YOU HAVE WRITTEN HERE. AND I, I WISH I COULD, I REMEMBERED ALL THAT FROM THE TOP OF MY HEAD. . IT'S LIKE A COUPLE OF SLIDES MORE, BUT, WELL, WE'LL GET TO THAT ONE. YEAH. MM-HMM . UM, ORDER POSITION IN INDOOR SPEAKER PLATFORM, WHENEVER WE HAVE A SPEAKER HERE, THE US FLAG HOLDS THE POSITION OF SUPERIOR PROMINENCE TO THE SPEAKER'S RIGHT AS THEY FACE THE AUDIENCE, UH, WHICH WAS THE AUDIENCE'S LEFT PLACED, THE FOREIGN FLAGS TO THE SPEAKER'S LEFT. SO ESSENTIALLY, AS YOU SAW IN THAT SAME PHOTOGRAPH, THE US FLAG WAS ON THE, IF YOU'RE LOOKING OUT AND THE AUDIENCE IS LOOKING UP AUDIENCE, IT'S ON THE LEFT. AND THEN YOU HAVE THE OTHERS ON THE RIGHT, WHICH IS, THIS IS THE PROTOCOL, UM, WHERE MULTIPLE, UH, FOREIGN FLAGS ARE DISPLAYED TOGETHER WITH OR WITHOUT FLAGGED RANGE THEM IN ENGLISH OPTICAL ORDER, WHICH WE, AGAIN, WE CAUGHT UP IN THE LAST, UH, ONE OF THE LAST SLIDES. RECESSIONS COLOR GUARD. THE US FLAG IS ON THE MARCHING RIGHT OF THE FRONT OF THE CENTER. WE, WE'VE NEVER DONE THAT, BUT, UH, JUST IN CASE IT EVER CAME UP, UH, WE'D HAVE CANDIDATES BUILT INTO FOREIGN NATIONAL FLAGS ALIGNED ACCORDINGLY. ANY QUESTIONS HERE? HALF STAFF OF MORNING, HALF STAFF OF THE US FLAG FALLS, FEDERAL DIRECTION CONSULT THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE OF FOREIGN ARY MORNING OBSERVANCES CONSISTENT WITH FLAG CODE SUBSECTION M BASICALLY, THERE ARE TWO PEOPLE IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA WHO CAN ORDER THE, THE LOWERING OF THE FLAG. AND THAT IS THE PRESIDENT OR THE GOVERNOR OF THE STATE, UH, FOR OFFICIALLY DOING IT. SOME COMMUNITIES DO IT BASED ON LOCAL EVENTS SOMETIMES, BUT THE OFFICIAL PEOPLE IS EITHER THE PRESIDENT OR THE GOVERNOR. ANY QUESTIONS THERE? UH, REQUEST TO ADD, REMOVE. SO THIS, THIS IS GOOD. THIS IS WHERE I'LL CHANGE THIS BASED ON OUR DISCUSSION RELATED TO GOVERNMENT DIGNITARIES AS OPPOSED TO ANYONE ELSE. AND SO, PUBLIC REQUEST TO CHANGE INTERNATIONAL WALL FLAG, REPLACE IT WITH THE HISTORIC REGIONAL COMMUNITY FLAG MUST BE SUBMITTED, DIVIDED TO THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. THE CITY WILL ONLY ONLY DISPLAY THE OFFICIAL CURRENT NATIONAL FLAG OF THE COUNTRY MEETING THAT ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA IN SUBSECTION. I THINK THAT MEANS SUBSECTION OR OUR LAWYER, JENNIFER. IS THAT WHAT THAT MEANS? THAT MEANS SECTION. SECTION. ALL RIGHT. SECTION FOUR AND VERIFIED PER SECTION FIVE, HISTORIC OR ALTERNATIVE FLAGS ARE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR THE INTERNATIONAL LAW. SO BASICALLY YOU CAN PUT IN THE REQUEST. WE GAVE AN AVENUE FOR PUTTING IN THE REQUEST. AND ESSENTIALLY WHAT THAT DOES IS WE IDENTIFY WHO'S PUT IN THE REQUEST AND WE'RE ABLE TO SEND BACK RESPONSES TO WHY WE'RE MAKING THE LETTER DECISION WE'RE MAKING. UM, GREG, SINCE YOU HAD MENTIONED OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT BUSINESS A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT TIMES, THAT THAT MIGHT BE A CHANGE THAT YOU MAKE. UM, HELP ME UNDERSTAND IF CHRIS AND HIS DEPART, OR EXCUSE ME, IF THE, UM, ECONOMIC, UH, DEVELOPMENT GROUP, UM, HAS DIGNITARIES VISITING OR WHAT HAVE YOU THAT ARE NOT OFFICIAL IN THEIR GOVERNMENT BUT ARE BUSINESS ORIENTED OR IF, DO YOU HAVE CONCERN, UH, PR CONCERNS IN THAT SENSE TO BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU THE FREEDOM TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT IF IT'S ONLY [01:35:01] BUSINESS ENTITIES? I, I LIKE SETTING BLACK AND WHITE AND THAT FIELD. BUT YOU DON'T THINK YOU WOULD BE LEAVING, WE WOULD BE LEAVING ANY, UM, NO, BECAUSE I THINK TO BUSINESS WE COULD EXPLAIN BASED ON THESE GUIDELINES WHY WE HAVE OKAY. IN PROACTIVE YEAH. TERMS TO A CERTAIN DEGREE. RIGHT. IF, IF THEY WERE TO COME UP TO US AND SAY, HEY, BY THE WAY, DID YOU KNOW? ABSOLUTELY. WE'D SAY, YES, WE UNDERSTAND, BUT HERE'S OUR PROTOCOL. THIS IS WHAT OUR GUIDELINES ARE. OKAY, WONDERFUL. THANK YOU. WE SPECIAL STATUS ENTITIES WHERE RECOGNITION OR NAMING IS SENSITIVE. WE'RE EVOLVING. THE CITY FOLLOWS US, DEPARTMENT OF STATE'S CURRENT LISTINGS AND NAMING CONVENTIONS. THIS ENSURES NEUTRALITY AND CONSISTENCY. MM-HMM . UM, TRYING TO THINK OF A CURRENT REGION, SOMETHING, BUT IT BASICALLY, IT GETS BACK TO WHAT'S THE OFFICIAL COUNTRY. MM-HMM . REQUEST IN EXCEPTIONS AND ADMINISTRATION SAFETY AND DECORUM. ALL INSTALLATIONS MUST BE SECURE, ACCESSIBLE AND RESPECTFUL. DAMAGED FLAGS ARE REMOVED PROPERLY AND REPLACED IN A TIMELY MANNER. ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MAINTAINS THE ROSTER OF COUNTRIES WITH A QUA QUALIFYING BUSINESS PRESENCE. UM, I I I DISCUSSION THAT WE HAVE BEFORE IS, SO THEN WHAT SETS THOSE PARAMETERS? SO WE'LL WORK ON THE CITY SECRETARY FACILITIES, UH, AND OUR, OUR, OUR FACILITIES, THEY PROCURE, VERIFY, INSTALL, AND MAINTAIN FLAGS, ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH THIS POLICY. UM, AND ESSENTIALLY WHAT I DO IS I, I I ASSIST THAT REALLY WE JUST PURCHASE 'EM THROUGH, UM, THROUGH ONE OF THOSE ENTITIES. CITY MANAGER OR DESIGNEE INTERPRETS THIS POLICY GRANTS LIMITED CASE BY CASE EXCEPTIONS WHEN NECESSARY TO MEET FORMAL DIPLOMATIC PROTOCOL, PROVIDED EXCEPTIONS DO NOT CONFLICT WITH USY CODE. AND WHAT I'LL DO HERE IS, AGAIN, IT GETS BACK TO THE, THE REFINING THAT DEFINITION AND THEN REVIEW CYCLE REVIEW ANNUALLY AS NEEDED, FOLLOWING CHANGES TO USY CODE, UN FLAG GUIDANCE AND STATE DEPARTMENT RECOGNITION. SO A LOT OF THIS HAS BEEN BROUGHT. GO AHEAD. OKAY. UH, TWO QUESTIONS FOR YOU REAL QUICKLY. HAS THIS BEEN, UH, FOR NEW CITY HALL? UH, WE HAVE EVERY REASON TO BELIEVE THAT THIS HAS A HOME, HOME THERE. THERE'LL BE, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY. WE DON'T WHERE YET WE, WHAT IT'LL LOOK LIKE. BUT WE HAVE EVERY REASON TO BELIEVE THERE WILL BE A FLAG WALL IN NEW CITY HOMES. YES. OKAY. YES. AND THEN CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF SEEING THIS DRAFT? FOR EXAMPLE, UM, HAS CHRIS'S TEAM SEEN THIS? HAS COMMUNICATIONS TEAM SEEN THIS? WHO, WHOM HAS LAID EYES ON THIS AND ALREADY SPOKEN INTO IT, AND THEN RIGHT. OR SHORTLY AFTER US, DOES IT GO, ARE WE KIND OF ONE OF THE LAST TO SEE IT WITH THESE TWEAKS GOING TO CITY COUNCIL SHORTLY AFTER? CAN YOU GIMME A GUIDE OF WHERE WE ARE ON THAT TIME, ON THAT, THAT SPECTRUM IF YOU WILL? UH, SO FIRST, THIS, THIS POLICY DOESN'T GO BEFORE CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL. WE'LL GET APPROVED THROUGH THE CITY MANAGERS. CITY MANAGERS. I APOLOGIZE. YES. AND YOU ARE THE LAST GROUP. SO I'VE, I'VE ALREADY RUN IT BY CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. RIGHT. SO THEY'VE SEEN THOSE OFFICES. UM, AND I'M TRYING TO THINK WHO ELSE. BUT, UM, SO WITH OUR END, BASICALLY I NEEDED ONE MORE STEP, WHICH IS ABSOLUTELY VERY GLAD. 'CAUSE THESE ARE THINGS I HADN'T THOUGHT OF BEFORE. YES. UH, AND SO I'LL BE MAKING SOME CHANGES AND THEN I'LL BE TAKING THAT BACK TO CHRIS AGAIN PRIOR TO GONNA CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. THEN I'LL GO TO ONE OF THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGERS. AND THEN ONCE WE FEEL IT'S READY AT THAT POINT, THEN WE'LL TAKE IT TO THE CITY MANAGER. EXCELLENT. UH, BUT AS A MATTER OF POLICY FOR THE WAY THE, SO CITY COUNCIL, UH, DEPENDS ON DON AS CITY MANAGER TO, TO YES. ORGANIZATIONALLY HAVE HIS POLICIES IN PLACE TO TAKE CARE OF. UH, AND SO THIS WOULDN'T BE GOING, THIS POLICY WOULD NOT BE GOING TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THEIR COMPLETELY REFORM. MAKES SENSE. GREAT. THANK YOU. SO, SO FOR INSTANCE, UH, I JUST WANTED TO BRING IT UP JUST BECAUSE I WAS AWARE OF IT. THERE IS AN AI CONFERENCE COMING UP IN THE CITY OF RICHARDSON, MARCH 11TH, 12TH. AND I KNOW THERE HAVE BEEN INVITATIONS THAT HAVE GONE OUT TO OTHER COUNTRIES INVITING SPEAKERS FROM THOSE COUNTRIES. WOULD THERE BE A CONSIDERATION TO PUT UP FLAGS AT THE AI CONFERENCE TO REP TO SHOW THE REPRESENTATION FROM THOSE COUNTRIES THAT ARE COMING IN TO SPEAK? AND I'M SURE THERE'S A LOT OF SPEAKERS FROM THE UNITED STATES THAT WILL ALSO BE ON THERE. UH, WILL, WILL ANY OF THIS, UH, GET, GET, UH, GET, UH, A PLACE WHERE WE MIGHT HAVE TO VISUALLY KIND OF SAY, OH, OUR FLAG POLICY NOW GETS ENACTED HERE AS WELL? IS IT IN THE CITY FACILITY OR IS IT, I THINK IT'S, THAT'S THE AT EISMAN CENTER, IS THAT THE ONE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? SORRY, EISMAN IS, IT'S AT THE EISMAN CENTER, BUT IT'S THE THEY'RE RENTING. YEAH. BUT THE AI CONFERENCE IS ON THE CITY WEBSITE. OH, I KNOW. OKAY. THAT'S STARTUP RUNWAY. UM, WE DON'T LEND THE FLAGS ESSENTIALLY IS HOW IT GOES. WE, WE WOULDN'T LEND THE FLAGS TO THEM. THAT'S ACTUALLY THEIR EVENT. WE'RE A SPONSOR OF THAT EVENT. OKAY. BUT THAT'S, THAT'S DONE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S STARTUP RUNWAY'S EVENT. [01:40:01] AND WE, AS CITY PROPERTY, WE WOULDN'T LEND THESE FLAGS FOR THE PURPOSE EVENT. YEAH, NO, BECAUSE IT DID INVOLVE INVITATION FROM THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO SPEAKERS IN OTHER COUNTRIES. UH, WE MAY HAVE BEEN PART OF OUR, I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT, AT THAT, BUT KNOWING WHAT I KNOW OF THAT EVENT RIGHT NOW, I, I WOULDN'T ANTICIPATE, UNLESS CITY COUNCIL WAS DOING SOME KIND OF SPECIAL WELCOME FOR SOME GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS THAT IF THEY WERE TO COME TO HEAR FROM THAT EVENT AND WE WERE DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEN WITH THE CITY COUNCIL'S INVOLVEMENT, IF IF WE, YOU KNOW, WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SPECIFICALLY WAS HOSTING SOMETHING, THEN WE WOULD TAKE THE FLAGS AND, AND HAVE IT FOR THAT, SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN THAT CASE. UM, 'CAUSE IT'S JUST NOW GET ME THINKING IN THAT CASE, BECAUSE WE ONLY HAD THE FLAGS DISPLAYED IF THEY HAVE AN OPERATIONAL BUSINESS IN RICHARDSON. SO LIKE, IF THEY INVITED A SPEAKER FROM ANOTHER COUNTRY, LIKE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN? IS IT, IS IT A WE'RE GONNA DISPLAY BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA DISPLAY THIS PARTICULAR PERSON'S COUNTRY THAT THEY'RE COMING FROM AS A SPEAKER? OR IS IT, WE'RE JUST NOT GONNA DISPLAY ANY FLAGS JUST TO MAKE IT A VERY FAIR AND INCLUSIVE EXPERIENCE FOR EVERYONE? BECAUSE I, BECAUSE WITH THE ORDERING OF FLAGS AND THE COST, TO ME, IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ORDER A FLAG SPECIFICALLY FOR A SPEAKER. WELL, WE WOULDN'T, WE WOULDN'T ORDER ONE FOR A SPEAKER. OKAY. OKAY. WE WOULD BASICALLY TAKE FROM WHAT WE HAVE. OKAY. IF WE HAD IT AVAILABLE. I SEE. AND WE, WE WOULD, INDIA IS PRIMARILY THE COUNTRY THAT WOULD BE INVOLVED IN THIS ONE. WE DO HAVE AN INDIAN FLAG. SO SINCE WE HAVE IT, AND IF CITY COUNCIL BE, WAS BEING INVOLVED IN SOME RELATED ACTIVITY, BUT WE WOULDN'T LEND THE FLAGS TO A PRIVATE ENTITY. OH, I SEE. YEAH. BUT EVEN IF CITY COUNCIL IS PRESENT AND THERE ARE GOING TO BE FOLKS, EVEN IF THEY DON'T HAVE A BUSINESS YEAH. THAT DOESN'T, THAT DOESN'T MEET THE THRESHOLD. 'CAUSE CITY COUNCIL'S PRESENT TO A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS. SO WE POLICY BACK UP THAT YEAH. IT'S, IT HAS TO BE A CITY EVENT. RICHARDSON. IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A CITY EVENT. YEAH. OKAY. I THINK I, I THINK I'M KIND OF CONFUSED. SO, 'CAUSE IF IT'S THE CITY EVENT, I THINK MY QUESTION IS IF THERE'S, IF THERE'S A BUSINESS, WE WOULD HAVE THEIR FLAG. BUT IF THERE'S JUST LIKE A SPEAKER AND WE WANT TO LIKE, MAKE THEM FEEL INCLUSIVE OR WE WOULDN'T ORDER IT, WE WOULDN'T. SO WE JUST WOULD NOT DISPLAY THAT COUNTRY. BUT WE WOULD STILL DISPLAY THE FLAGS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE. IF IT'S A CITY EVENT. IF IT'S A CITY EVENT. OKAY. SO LET ME SEE IF I'M UNDERSTANDING. SO IF YOU HAVE SOMEONE COMING TO THE CITY FROM A COUNTRY THAT YOU DON'T HAVE A FLAG, IT'S NOT A BUSINESS, IT'S JUST A VISIT. MM-HMM . THEY'RE A PROMINENT BUSINESS PERSON FROM A COUNTRY THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN TO HAVE OPERATIONS HERE. CORRECT. SO THERE ARE NO FLAG BECAUSE WE WOULDN'T HAVE IT ON, WE WOULDN'T HAVE IT IN INVENTORY. AND BECAUSE OF HOW OFTEN THAT THAT WOULD OCCUR, WE WITNESS TO DO SO. BUT I MEAN, I CAN IMAGINE THAT IF WE ARE TRYING TO ATTRACT A CERTAIN BUSINESS TO COME, YOU KNOW, TEMPORARILY WHAT WE SET UP THAT IS AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CITY, THE CITY FACILITIES, AS THEY'RE SETTING UP THE STAGE FOR THAT, THEY CAN DECIDE HOW TO SET IT UP. RIGHT. IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY HAVE TO PUT A FLAG IN THE DISPLAY, BUT THEY MAY DECIDE, THEY MAY WANT PUT SOME, SOME TYPE OF TIMBER, THE DECOR OR SOMETHING TO KIND OF, IF, IF THE CITY WERE HOSTING AN EVENT WITH, UM, WHOEVER THAT WE DIDN'T HOLD IN THE FLAG FOR. IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT ON THE POWERPOINT PRESENTATION, WE THAT'S EXACTLY, THERE COULD BE DIFFERENT WAYS IN WHICH THAT COULD BE REPRESENTED. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS LIKE INCLUSIVE, THAT LIKE, EVEN IF THERE'S LIKE 10 FLAGS TO REPRESENT EVERYONE, BUT THEN THERE'S THE 11TH PERSON COMING FROM THE COUNTRY AND IT DOESN'T, IT'S NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF THAT PERSON. JUST WHAT THAT YEAH. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE MY QUESTION WAS COMING FROM WAS LIKE FROM THE INCLUSIVENESS OF THE PERSON WHO MAY BE INVITED MM-HMM . BUT THEIR SPECIFIC FLAG IS NOT DISPLAYED WHEN THERE ARE OTHER FLAGS DISPLAYED. YEAH. OKAY. UM, BUT NOT ALSO INCLUDE A DIGNITARY, UH, VISIT, LIKE A DIPLOMAT VISIT FROM THAT COUNTRY. YES. 'CAUSE WE WOULDN'T ON THE FLAG. SO EVEN IF IT'S A GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL NOW, WHAT I WOULD SAY IS IF WE WERE EXPECTING A PRESIDENT, A LEADER , AND WE KNEW MONTHS IN ADVANCE OF A COMBINATION. YEAH. WE, WE MAY, YOU KNOW, TRY TO FIND IF, 'CAUSE THAT, THAT WOULD SEEM TO INDICATE THAT SOMETHING BIG'S GOING ON. YEAH. BUT I MEAN, I HATE TO SAY NEVER. RIGHT. BUT THE PURPOSE OF THE POLICY WOULD BE THE SITUATIONS THAT WE TYPICALLY FIND SELVES. AND THAT'S WHY YOU'RE SAYING IT'S BASED UPON THE BUSINESSES IN RICHARDSON. RIGHT. THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE SAY BUSINESS. BUT THAT WOULD BE [01:45:01] OKAY. YEAH. I MEAN, THIS IS PART OF THE REASON FOR THE POLICY BECAUSE WE COULD DO THIS ALL NIGHT. RIGHT. OR WE CAN HAVE RANDOM SCENARIO. SO WE HAVE TO HAVE A, A GUIDELINE LIKE AND STICK TO THE GUIDELINES. I THINK THAT'S THE IDEA. BUT I THINK, UH, IT'S, IT'S GOOD TO KINDA LOOK AT ALL THE DIFFERENT SITUATIONS BECAUSE WE JUST WANNA SEE THAT THE POLICY APPLIES TO THIS SITUATION AND THAT SITUATION AND THAT SITUATION. IT COVERS BASICALLY ALL SORT OF RULES AND, AND TO, TO, UM, COUNCILWOMAN JUSTICE'S POINT, I THINK THAT'S, IT'S GOOD FOR GUIDELINES TO HELP US. GIVE US SOME PSYCH BOWLING. WELL, YOU PUT THE, THE RAILS UP, UH, REALIZING THAT I'VE EVEN SEEN, SEEN IT HIT SOMETHING ON THAT. YEAH. BUT ANYWAY, , WELL ULTIMATELY THE DECISION LIES IN THE HANDS OF THE CITY AND THE CITY OFFICIALS OF WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE, UH, HAPPEN. AND THAT, THAT'S WHY I SAID MAYBE A FRAMEWORK, A PROCESS WHERE THERE A COUPLE OF SIGNATURES. AND I THINK THAT COVERS ALL BASES. THE ALWAYS A SCOPE OF REVISING THE RIGHT AND POLICY NOT SOMETHING NEW. WE CAN ALWAYS REVISE THE POLICY, RIGHT? YES. YES. UH, WE GO THIS. YES. MM-HMM . IT'S OKAY. OH, THAT'S IT. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THE FEEDBACK, . I APPRECIATE THAT. THAT'S, SO THIS AGAIN GETS BACK TO THE LENSES. MM-HMM . AND THE BENEFIT OF HAVING EVERYBODY'S BACKGROUND. BECAUSE THERE ARE THINGS THAT I COME WITH MY BACKGROUND AND I, AND I GO AND I READ BOOKS OF, OKAY, STATE DEPARTMENT, CIA, UN, WHOEVER, AND I'LL FIND OUT THEIR STUFF. NOW THEIR STUFF IS PAGES AND PAGES LONG. SO I, I'M SURE THERE'S SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU GUYS BROUGHT UP THAT WERE IN THERE THAT I DIDN'T CATCH. BUT IT'S PROBABLY BECAUSE I DIDN'T, IF I EVEN I SKIMMED OVER IT, I MIGHT'VE THOUGHT, OH, WELL, WHEN'S THAT GONNA COME UP? BUT, UM, THAT'S THE BENEFIT OF HAVING AND US BRINGING ABSOLUTELY THESE TYPES OF THINGS TO YOU GUYS BECAUSE YOU'RE ABLE TO IDENTIFY AND PULL OUT FROM YOUR SHARED EXPERIENCES, UH, ESPECIALLY WITH THE DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT APPRECIATION FOR BACKGROUNDS THAT, THAT, THAT LENS AND FOCUS, UM, WHY IT HELPS MAKE THESE THINGS BETTER IN THE COMMUNITY. SO I APPRECIATE YOUR FEEDBACK AND I'LL DEFINITELY BE DOING SOME REWRITING HERE PRETTY SOON. GREAT. OR ADDITION ADDITIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YOU THANK YOU. WELL, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WELL, THANK YOU FOR A VERY COMPREHENSIVE DISCUSSION ON THIS. I THINK WE CAN CLEARLY SAY THAT WE DID REVIEW THE FLAG POLICY AND, UM, IT, IT HAS BEEN DEALT WITH AN INCLUSIVE, UM, DISCUSSION AMONGST OUR COMMISSION MEMBERS. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. UM, WITH THAT, THAT WAS THE LAST, UH, ITEM ON OUR AGENDA. ARE THERE ANY COMMISSION MEMBERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? I WOULD JUST POINT OUT THAT COMING UP ON JANUARY 30TH AND FEBRUARY 14TH, WE HAVE EISMAN CENTER PRESENTS EVENTS THAT ARE HAPPENING AT THE EISMAN CENTER. UM, SOMETHING FOR EVERYBODY. AND SO I KNOW YOU'VE ALL RECEIVED PRESENTATIONS FROM THE EISMAN. SOME HAVE BEEN TO SHOWS THERE, SOME HAVE NOT. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO GET TICKETS AND, AND GO EXPERIENCE, UH, SHOW AT THE EISMAN. UM, YEAH. THE, THE ONE IS A ROCK AND ROLL SHOW ON THE 30TH, AND ONE IS SIMON GARFUNKEL AND GARFUNKEL STORY. SO WELL, SOMETHING FOR EVERYBODY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU JENNIFER. I, I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION, I KNOW IT WAS ALREADY TALKED ABOUT, STATE OF THE CITY IS NEXT WEEK WEDNESDAY TO, UH, IF YOU'VE BEEN BEFORE AND YOU HAVEN'T NOTICED, THERE IS A DIFFERENCE THIS YEAR THAT YOU NEED TO RESERVE SEATS, UH, BECAUSE SOME OF US HAVE NOT NOTICED THAT NOW YOU MAY BE UNDER NETWORKS. I MIGHT BE SEATS. 'CAUSE I THINK I HAVE SIX FOR NETWORK OKAY. THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THAT. OKAY. SO YOU MAY WANNA CHECK WITH THEM. OKAY. UM, UM, CELESTE. OKAY. BUT JUST IF, IF YOU DO PLAN TO GO REALIZE IT'S NOT A, YOU JUST WALK IN THIS TIME, PLEASE BE SURE TO WHAT IT'S DOING. IT HELPS US TO, AND WE'RE ALREADY IN OVERFLOW, UH, BUT IT HELPS US TO PLAN BETTER FOR THE ELITE. SO, UM, IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY, WELL, HERE'S THIS HARD TAKEN CARE OF TOO, BUT, SO A QUESTION, UH, IS THERE A PLACE WHERE THE, THE COMMISSION MEMBERS ARE SIT TOGETHER? IT'S GENERAL ADMISSION NOW. WE DO HAVE, UH, PEOPLE WITHIN THE, THE PRESENTATION WHO ARE BEING RECOGNIZED. AND SO THERE'S RESERVE SEATING FOR, FOR KIND OF OUR VIP LIST, SO TO SPEAK. UH, BUT WHEN, UH, I WOULD RECOMMEND GETTING THERE EARLY WHEN YOU RESERVE YOUR, YOUR SEATS. AND, UH, BECAUSE I DO ANTICIPATE THAT WE MAY RUN OUT OF SPACE IN THE MAIN VENUE. SO IF YOU WANT, IF YOU WANNA SIT IN THE MAIN VENUE AND NOT WATCH IT ON A SCREEN DOWN IN THE BANK OF AMERICA HALL, WHICH IS IN THE BASEMENT AREA, OR YOU CAN WATCH OUT IN THE LOBBY, WE'LL HAVE A BIG SCREEN OUT THERE AS WELL. BUT THOSE ARE THE TWO OVERFLOW AREAS. IT'S ONE OF THE SPILLOVER SPACE ON THE TOP. RIGHT? THAT'S, NO, THAT'S, THAT'S THE HILL. SO WE ARE IN THE BANK OF AMERICA THEATER, WHICH IS THE SMALLER THEATER ON ANOTHER. THERE IS A SMALL BALCONY UP THERE, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE AGAINST IT. OH, SORRY. YEAH, THERE IS LIMITED, THERE ARE LIMITED SEATS UP ON THAT SHORT BALCONY. THOSE SEATS THOUGH ARE, THEY'RE, IF YOU WERE TO GO WITH SOMEBODY, [01:50:01] THEN YOU, THERE'S ONE SEAT AND THEY KIND OF GO IN A LINE. YEAH. I DON'T THINK THEY'RE IN TWO. SO YEAH, YOU'D HAVE TO YEAH. WHAT TIME WE ENDED UP OVER THERE. YEAH. YEAH. WOW. WELL, GOOD. THANK YOU FOR THAT DIRECTIVE AND GOOD PROBLEM TO HAVE. IF YOU WERE GOING TO OVERFLOW , THAT'S FOR SHORT. YEAH. BUT THANK YOU FOR LETTING US KNOW THAT WE HAVE, WE SHOULD REGISTER IT BECAUSE WE'RE PLANNING ON ATTENDING, BUT IT WAS NEVER ON MY RADAR TO REGISTER STATE. YEP. I HAVE A QUESTION. DO WE NEED TO LET PEOPLE KNOW IF THERE ARE ANY RESOURCES IN CLAY IN CASE SOMETHING HAPPENS WITH THE WEATHER? WE'RE SO, WE, WE SHOULDN'T HAVE ANY WEATHER ISSUES ON STATE OF THE CITY. IT'S, UM, IS THAT WHAT YOU NEED UP? SORRY, TOMORROW. OH, I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY. SORRY. UH, SO I'M SORRY, SAY THAT AGAIN. THAT YOU, IS THERE LIKE, UM, A NUMBER OR SOME KIND OF THING THAT WE CAN TELL PEOPLE IF THEY'RE, THEY HAVE ISSUES WITH, UH, I MEAN I GUESS IT'S NETWORK, BUT THEY'VE ALREADY, THE CITY HAS ALREADY STARTED PUTTING OUT SOME STUFF LIKE WITH REGARDS TO, UH, I'M SPEAKING FOR CITY COMMUNICATIONS HERE, BUT WITH REGARDS TO WARMING CENTERS, FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE WHERE THEY'RE OPENING TO, LET'S SEE, TWO FIRE DEPARTMENTS AND THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS FOR EXAMPLE. SO THEY'VE STARTED TO PUSH SOME OF THAT INFORMATION OUT THROUGH THEIR SOCIALS AND THEIR CHANNELS. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THINGS LIKE THAT? IS THAT ON THE WEBPAGE? IT, IT'S, UH, IT'S ON OUR SOCIAL, IT'S ON OUR WEBPAGE. UH, WE HAVE NOTIFICATION SERVICES. IF YOU'RE SIGNED UP FOR THEM. BUT OBVIOUSLY, I MEAN, WITH EVERYBODY IN HERE, WE WOULD, EVERYTHING YOU CAN DO TO GET TO YOUR COMMUNITIES THAT MAY NOT BE FOLLOWING CITY CHANNELS, WE DEFINITELY ASK THAT YOU SHARE THAT INFORMATION SO THAT YOU KNOW, MORE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE IT. BUT UH, BUT YES, OUR COMMUNICATION ON THE APPROACHING WINTER WEATHER ACTUALLY STARTED YESTERDAY AND WE'VE BEEN FAIRLY REGULARLY POSTING YEAH, ON FACEBOOK. THIS IS FACEBOOK. OKAY. BUT AGAIN, AND WINTER WEATHER, GOOD REMINDER FOR US THOUGH, GOOD REMINDER FOR US WITHIN OUR RESPECTIVE COMMUNITIES TO BE ABLE TO, TO CONTINUE SHARING THAT. I, THAT'S A GOOD REMINDER FOR MYSELF AND THE BEST PLACE TO GO IS CORE.NET/WINTER WEATHER. I MEAN, IF YOU DID NOTHING ELSE, THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE THE BEST, BEST LOCATION BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE UPDATES THERE FOR EVERYTHING. YEAH. I HOPE WE DON'T SEE A LOT THIS YEAR, BUT 21 WAS A WAKE UP CALL. BRUTAL. YEAH, A LOT OF DATA. , THERE'S SOME BACKGROUND PROCESS TO YUAN AS . SHE'S ALREADY SENDING EMAILS TO DIFFERENT PEOPLE REACHING OUT TO, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, INTER ALLIANCE GOT AN EMAIL THIS MORNING AND SHE WILL REACH OUT TO ME AND I'LL BROADCAST WITH HER CONTACT INFORMATION AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO THERE IS SOME HOUSE OF WORSHIP LEVEL KIND OF INFORMATION AND PROCESS ALREADY. SO, AND WE THANK YOU FOR THAT BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE DEFINITELY NOT FOLLOWING. IT'S, IT ALL DEPENDS ON HOW YOU GET INFORMATION, INFORMATION. I MEAN, LIKE, YOU KNOW, I'M GUESSING YOU DON'T FOLLOW THE SOCIAL MEDIA, SO YEAH, IT'S, THAT'S WHY, ESPECIALLY WALKING STATION. YEAH. WHERE ARE THE GAPS AND STUFF. MM-HMM. BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T SPEAK ENGLISH. THEY KNOW A LOT, EVEN THEIR ENGLISH. AND, AND THAT'S WHERE, IN FACT THAT WAS PART OF OUR PRESENTATION THIS WEEK WHERE, UM, I PUT UP A QUOTE FROM, UH, I'D SEEN THAT IT SAID PEOPLE GET NEWS, NOT NECESSARILY FROM MAINSTREAM NEWS, ANY MAINSTREAM NEWS ANYMORE. THEY'RE GETTING IT FROM THE PASTOR WHO'S TALKING AT THE, AT THE, DURING THE SERVICE. THEY'RE GETTING IT FROM THE BARBER WHO'S STREAMING THE NEWS. THEY'RE GETTING IT FROM THEIR NEIGHBOR WHOSE KID GOT A NOTE FROM SCHOOL AND THEY CAN'T READ IT. IT, IT'S THIS OFFLINE COMMUNICATION, WHICH IS WHERE EACH OF YOU HELPS TO MAKE THAT, MAKE THAT DIFFERENCE FOR THE LONG TALK. WELL, GREAT. UH, ANY OTHER FURTHER COMMENTS FROM ANYONE ELSE? WELL THEN THAT CONCLUDES THE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA FOR THIS EVENING WITH NO FURTHER ITEMS TO DISCUSS. THIS MEETING IS NOW ADJOURNED. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.