* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:02] CALL THIS MEETING OF THE RICHARDSON CITY COUNCIL TO [ CALL TO ORDER] ORDER AT 6:00 PM AT THIS TIME, I WILL ASK COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE TO GIVE THE INVOCATION AND LEAD THE PLEDGES. THANK YOU, MAYOR. PLEASE JOIN ME IN PRAYER. AS YOU'RE COMFORTABLE, GRACIOUS, AND LOVING GOD, AS WE GATHER THE DAY AFTER INTERNATIONAL WOMEN'S DAY, WE COME TO YOU IN GR IN PRAYER, IN GRATITUDE FOR THE GIFT OF WOMEN, FOR MOTHERS AND DAUGHTERS, SISTERS AND FRIENDS, LEADERS AND CAREGIVERS, TEACHERS AND HEALERS, DREAMERS AND BUILDERS. LEST THE WOMEN WHO HAVE GONE BEFORE US WHO SACRIFICES BUILT THE PATHS WE TRAVEL TODAY AND BLESS THE YOUNG WOMEN WHO ARE FINDING THEIR VOICES AND DISCOVERING THEIR PURPOSE, MAY THEY KNOW THAT THEY ARE WONDERFULLY MADE, DEEPLY VALUED, AND HELD ALWAYS IN YOUR LOVING CARE, COMPASSIONATE GOD. WE LIFT BEFORE YOU. WOMEN WHO CARRY HEAVY BURDENS, STRENGTHEN THOSE WHO STRUGGLE IN SILENCE AND SUSTAIN WOMEN WHOSE LABOR AND GIFTS ARE OVERLOOKED. WE PRAY FOR WOMEN WHO ARE PIONEERS, THOSE WHO DARE TO LEAD, TO SPEAK, TO CREATE AND TO TRANSFORM THE WORLD. MAY THEIR DREAMS REMAIN STRONG AND THEIR HOPE UNSHAKEN. MAY OUR CITY BE A PLACE WHERE WOMEN FLOURISH, WHERE THEIR GIFTS ARE CELEBRATED, AND WHERE THEIR LEADERSHIP REFLECTS THE FULLNESS OF YOUR SPIRIT. MAY WE TRAVEL TOGETHER AS EQUALS IN FAITH, SERVING YOU WITH HUMILITY AND JOY. WE OFFER THIS PRAYER WITH THANKSGIVING AND HOPE, TRUSTING THAT YOUR LOVE CONTINUES TO WORK THROUGH THE LIVES OF EVERY WOMAN, SHAPING FAMILIES, STRENGTHENING COMMUNITIES, AND RENEWING THE WORLD. WE ASK THIS IN YOUR HOLY NAME. AMEN. AMEN. THE US PLEDGE, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE SPRAWL THE TEXAS PLEDGE. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD. ONE AN INDIVISIBLE. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE. [3. MINUTES OF THE FEBRUARY 23, 2026 AND MARCH 2, 2026 MEETINGS ] UH, AT THIS TIME WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE, WHICH ARE THE MINUTES OF THE FEBRUARY 23RD, 2026, AND MARCH 2ND, 2026 MEETINGS. MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHIN RIDER, MAYOR, MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE TWO MEETING MINUTES. ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHIN RIDER, COUNCIL MEMBER DORIAN. I'LL SECOND THAT. WE HAVE A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER DORIAN. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'LL MOVE ON [4. PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS AND VISITORS FORUM ] TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, WHICH ARE PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS AND VISITORS FORUM. MR. MAGNER? UH, THANK YOU MAYOR. MAYOR AND COUNSEL. UM, I, UH, AM IN RECEIPT OF SEVERAL COMMENT CARDS IN ADVANCE OF THE 4:00 PM DEADLINE. SO I WILL ACKNOWLEDGE THOSE, THEN READ THE INSTRUCTIONS FOR ANYONE WHO IS, UH, PRESENT TONIGHT TO SPEAK DURING THE, UH, VISITORS FORUM OR THROUGH, UH, THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING THAT WE HAVE SCHEDULED FOR LATER THIS EVENING. SO LET ME BEGIN BY ACKNOWLEDGING, UH, MS. LAUREN PEREZ 25 57 BUTTERCUP. UM, THE TOPIC, UM, IS THE REVIEW AND DISCUSS AMAZON DELIVERY PROGRAM. AND, UH, MAYOR AND COUNSEL TUI, UH, INDICATE OTHERWISE THAT'LL BE THE TOPIC MOVING FORWARD. UM, FOR THE, FOR THE CARDS, UM, UH, LAUREN UHS POSITION IS AGAINST ASHLEY, UH, BENOY 33 0 3 NORTH SPRING DRIVE AGAINST NATALIE PENA, UH, 26 82 CARNATION AGAINST, EXCUSE ME, UH, SHERRY MOIN, 3001 KOTTER CIRCLE AGAINST BEVERLY BINGHAM, 31 0 3 SPRING LAKE DRIVE AGAINST NATHAN AARON MEYERS, 26 67 ORCHARD DRIVE AGAINST MATT SCHROEDER, 3004 CUTTER CIRCLE AGAINST DAVID PENA, 26 82 CARNATION AGAINST COURTNEY BAKER, 25 0 3 HONEYSUCKLE DRIVE AGAINST SAM SAMANTHA SMITH, 2207 GOLDEN WILLOW, EXCUSE ME, AGAINST, UH, MIRANDA MEYERS, 26 67 ORCHID DRIVE AGAINST. UM, AND THEN, UM, EXCUSE ME, UM, MAYOR AND COUNSEL, WE HAVE, UM, ONE CARD FOR, UH, ZONING CASE 25 22. UH, JOY LYNN HARVEY 1317 MAGNOLIA DRIVE AGAINST, UM, IN IRIS BENET 1313 MAGNOLIA DRIVE. AGAIN, UM, ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, ZONING CASE AGAINST. AND THEN FINALLY, TYLER SIN 1311 MAGNOLIA. ANY FILE 25 22. AND THE POSITION IS NEUTRAL. UM, I WANNA REASSURE ALL THE UH, UH, RESIDENTS WHO HAVE, UH, PROVIDED COMMENTS TO THE COUNCIL. YOUR CO COMMENT CARDS HAVE BEEN PROVIDED IN FULL TO THE COUNCIL FOR THEIR REVIEW, UH, IN ADVANCE OF THE, UH, BRIEFINGS. UH, THIS, UH, THESE INSTRUCTIONS WILL BE AGAIN FOR ANYONE SPEAKING DURING THE VISITOR'S FORUM OR SPEAKING, UH, AS PART OF THE PUBLIC HEARING DURING THIS PORTION OF THE COUNCIL MEETING, 30 MINUTES IS ALLOCATED FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO PROVIDE COMMENTS TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON AGENDA ITEMS. [00:05:01] IF YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK ON A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM, PLEASE WAIT UNTIL THAT PUBLIC HEARING IS OPENED. IF THERE'S TIME LEFT DURING THE INITIAL 30 MINUTES ALLOCATED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, THE REMAINING TIME WILL BE PROVIDED AS A VISITOR'S FORM OPEN TO ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ANY TOPIC IN WHICH THE SUBJECT MATTER IS WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE CITY. UH, THIS COULD BE IMPORTANT TONIGHT IF THE FULL 30 MINUTES ALLOCATED FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENT IS REACHED, THEN SPEAKERS WHO HAVE SUBMITTED A PUBLIC COMMENT CARD MAY SPEAK AT THE VISITOR'S FORM SCHEDULED. AT THE END OF THE MEETING, ALL SPEAKERS SHOULD COMPLETE A PUBLIC COMMENT CARD AND SUBMIT IT TO THE CITY'S SECRETARY. SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER THAT THEY'RE RECEIVED. WHEN YOUR NAME IS CALLED, PLEASE STEP TO THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. ALL SPEAKERS WILL BE LIMITED TO A MAXIMUM OF FIVE MINUTES IS INDICATED BY THE TIMER. WHEN THE TIMER BEEPS, THE SPEAKERS SHOULD CONCLUDE THEIR COMMENTS PROMPTLY. SPEAKERS MUST NOT PHYSICALLY APPROACH MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL OR STAFF AND SHOULD REMAIN AT THE PODIUM DURING THEIR COMMENTS. SPEAKERS WITH HANDOUTS MUST PROVIDE THEM TO THE CITY SECRETARY FOR DISTRIBUTION SPEAKERS. SUBMITTING COMMENTS ON THE SAME TOPIC ARE ENCOURAGED TO REDUCE REPETITIVE REMARKS BY INDICATING THEIR COMMENTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN ADDRESSED, OR BY SELECTING A REPRESENTATIVE SPEAKER, THE TEXAS OPEN MEETING ACT PROHIBITS THE CITY COUNCIL FROM DISCUSSING OR TAKING ACTION ON ITEMS THAT ARE NOT POSTED ON THE AGENDA. CITY COUNCIL AND STAFF WILL NOT AFFIRM OR OPPOSE ANY SPEAKER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS. THE MAYOR OR CITY MANAGER MAY RESPOND WITH FACTS OF POLICY OR DIRECT CITY STAFF TO RESPOND TO THE SPEAKER. AFTER THE MEETING, THE AUDIENCE IS ASKED, UH, TO REFRAIN, REFRAIN FROM APPLAUDING OR OTHER EXPRESSIONS OF SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION, A COPY OF THE COUNCIL RULES OF ORDER AND PROCEDURE. AND THESE GUIDELINES MAY BE FOUND ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE. AT THIS TIME, I'D ALSO LIKE TO ASK EVERYONE TO SILENCE THOSE THEIR CELL PHONES FOR THE DURATION OF THE MEETING. MS. BERG, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU TO START CALLING THE SPEAKERS. MAYOR, I HAVE EIGHT PEOPLE SIGNED UP, UH, INITIALLY, UH, BRIAN ROWE, MR. MAYOR, UH, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS YOU THIS EVENING. UH, MY NAME IS BRIAN ROWE AND I'M A RESIDENT AND CURRENT HOA PRESIDENT OF SHARPS FARM THERE BETWEEN RENNER ROAD AND BRECKENRIDGE. IN THE ORIGINAL DISCUSSIONS IN VIEW OF AMENDING THE ZONING OR APPLYING A SPECIAL PERMIT, THERE WAS MUCH DISCUSSION ABOUT THE RADIATED NOISE LEVEL OF THESE DRONES AND SOME COMMENTARY ABOUT THE INEVITABILITY OF DRONES IN THE CITY AND THE FACT THAT THE PLAN LAUNCH FACILITY IS IN AN INDUSTRIAL AREA. I THINK THAT WE FAILED TO ACCOUNT FOR THE FACT THAT WHILE THE CITY FACILITY IS IN AN INDUSTRIAL AREA, IT ABOUT SEVERAL NEIGHBORHOODS, WHICH ARE NOW REGULARLY OVERFLOWN HUNDREDS OF TIMES A DAY. I WOULD ALSO SUGGEST THAT AMAZON'S CLAIMS ABOUT THE RADIATED NOISE LEVELS ARE INSUFFICIENT. I LIVE IN A HOME THAT IS RELATIVELY MODERN AND WELL INSULATED, AND I REGULARLY HEAR THOSE DRONES AT A DISTANCE OF THREE TO 500 FEET WHILE INSIDE MY HOME. I'M NOT SURE IF AMAZON HAS TESTED THE NOISE RADIATION FROM A FLYING DISHWASHER, BUT IF THEY BELIEVE THESE DRONES RADIATE LIKE A DISHWASHER, THEY MUST BE LIVING WITH THE SAME APPLIANCE MY PARENTS HAD IN THE EIGHTIES. I ASSUME THAT THE ALLOWANCE TO CONTINUE FLIGHT OPERATIONS UNTIL 8:00 PM IN VIOLATION OF OUR OWN NOISE ORDINANCES WAS DRIVEN BY AMAZON'S STATED DESIRE TO SEE THEIR CUSTOMERS AT HOME DURING DELIVERIES. I WOULD CHALLENGE THE CITY TO EVALUATE THAT CLAIM. SERIOUSLY ANECDOTALLY, THERE SEEMS TO BE NO DIFFERENCE IN FLIGHT DENSITY IN THE HOURS OF FIVE TO 8:00 PM THAN THE REST OF THE DAY. AND I'M CONFIDENT THAT MANY OF YOU WILL ARRIVE HOME TO FIND A PACKAGE ON YOUR DOORSTEP JUST LIKE I WILL SINCE THEY REGULARLY DELIVER PACKAGES WHILE I'M AWAY. WHILE I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE LIMITS AROUND WHAT WE CAN OR CANNOT REGULATE, GIVEN THE FA A'S OWNERSHIP OF THE AIRSPACE, THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THIS WILL HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE RESALE VALUE OF HOMES IN OUR AREA. FOR MANY OF MY NEIGHBORS AND THOSE IN ADJOINING NEIGHBORHOODS, WE INTENTIONALLY CHOSE PLACES TO LIVE WHERE WE WOULDN'T BE LISTENING TO THE SOUND OF DIESEL ENGINES EVERY TWO MINUTES DRIVING PAST OUR HOMES. AND YET THAT'S NOW WHAT WE ARE SUBJECTED TO COMPARING DRONE OPERATIONS FROM AN INDUSTRIAL AREA TO NORMAL. INDUSTRIAL TRAFFIC IS FALLACIOUS BECAUSE THERE ARE ENVIRONMENTAL FACTORS AT PLAY BETWEEN VEGETATION BUILDINGS, FENCES, AND OTHER NOISE ABSORBING MATERIALS THAT DON'T EXIST WHEN YOU'RE RADIATING THAT NOISE AT 200 PLUS FEET. I WOULD CHALLENGE ANYONE WHO HAS SUPPORTED THIS MEASURE TO COME SPEND AN HOUR WITH ME JUST SITTING IN MY BACKYARD TRYING TO ENJOY WATCHING MY CHILDREN PLAY IN THE POOL, BRING A LITTLE NOTE CARD WITH YOU, AND EVERY TIME YOU HEAR A DRONE MAKE A MARK. AND EVERY TIME YOU HEAR A COMMERCIAL TRUCK MAKE A MARK. I ASSURE YOU, YOU WILL HEAR VERY FEW, IF ANY TRUCKS AND MANY, MANY DRONES. I WILL SAY I WAS ALSO SURPRISED THAT THERE HAS BEEN NO DISCUSSION MADE ABOUT THE PRIVACY IMPLICATIONS OF ALLOWING THESE FLIGHTS AND THE O AND THE OVER FLIGHTS OF OTHER DRONES, WHICH ARE EFFECTIVELY FLYING SURVEILLANCE DEVICES WITH CAMERAS AND OTHER SENSORS REQUIRED FOR AUTONOMOUS OPERATION. NEITHER AMAZON NOR OTHER VENDORS HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO PROTECT THE PRIVACY OF RICHARDSON RESIDENTS, AND THERE ARE NO AGREEMENTS ABOUT HOW THEY WERE LEVERAGED TELEMETRY OR OTHER DATA COLLECTED FROM THESE FLIGHTS. BUT WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR AMAZON TO BE SUED JUST AS GOOGLE WAS FOR THEIR ILLEGAL COLLECTION OF DATA FROM THEIR STREET VIEW CARS. I BELIEVE IT WAS COUNCILMAN SHAMS WHO STATED THAT THE USE IS INEVITABLE AND THAT MAY WELL BE, BUT WE REGULARLY NEED TO BALANCE THE NEEDS OF OUR CITIZENS OVER AND AGAINST THE NEEDS OF CORPORATIONS LIKE AMAZON. AND WE HAVE YET TO MEET THAT BALANCE HERE. I IMPLORE THE COUNCIL TO TAKE EVERY PERMISSIBLE ACTION TO [00:10:01] ELIMINATE THIS USE IF POSSIBLE, BUT OTHERWISE, TO LOOK FOR SPECIFIC RECOURSE, TO REQUIRE AMAZON TO REDUCE THE NOISE POLLUTION IN OUR RESIDENTIAL AREAS, PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMITMENTS ABOUT THEIR COLLECTION, USE AND RETENTION OF ANY DATA FROM THESE OPERATIONS, AND TO OTHERWISE AMEND THEIR OPERATIONS TO MINIMIZE THE IMPACT TO THE VERY CUSTOMERS THAT THEY AIM TO SERVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. BROWN. CHRISTIE GRAHAM. HELLO AND THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO SPEAK TODAY. MY NAME IS CHRISTY GRAHAM. I'M A RESIDENT OF WOODS OF SPRING CREEK AND MY HOME LIES ALONG RENTER AND TELECOM PARKWAY. I AM HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE AMAZON DRONES AND FLIGHT PATHS. MS. GRAHAM, WILL YOU PROVIDE A ADDRESS? I APOLOGIZE. OH, YES. 35 18 BRADFORD DRIVE. THANK YOU. MM-HMM . UM, I'VE SPOKEN WITH MANY OF MY NEIGHBORS AND I, I KNOW THAT MANY SHARE MY SAME CONCERNS. SO THAT IS ONE REASON I CAME TO SPEAK TODAY. FIRST OF ALL, REGARDING THE APPROVAL OF THE AMAZON DRONE FLIGHTS, I ABSOLUTELY FEEL THAT THE CITY SHOULD HAVE CONSIDERED NOTIFYING RESIDENTS THAT THIS WAS BEING CONSIDERED. SO THOSE OF US IN THE FLIGHT PATH WERE AWARE OF THE DECISIONS BEING MADE, PERHAPS GOING FORWARD. THERE SHOULD BE A CONSIDERATION FOR NOTIFYING RESIDENTS WHEN THESE THINGS COME UP, SUCH AS A ZONING CHANGE NOTIFICATION. AND OF COURSE, WE WOULD NEED TO INCLUDE AIRSPACE IN THAT FROM NOW ON, JUST TO SHARE MY EXPERIENCE, NOT ONLY ARE THE NOISE OF THE DRONES A CONCERN, BUT IT'S JUST AN UNSETTLING FEELING WHEN YOU'RE OUT IN YOUR BACKYARD ENJOYING YOUR DAY, AND YOU HEAR A SOUND COMING TOWARDS YOU, LOOK UP, YOU THINK, WHAT IS THAT? AND WITHIN A SECOND OR TWO, YOU HAVE A FLYING OBJECT COMING DIRECTLY AT YOU IN YOUR HOME AND ZOOMING OVER THE VERY TOPS OF YOUR TREES AND OVER YOUR HEAD. UM, THEN IMAGINE THIS HAPPENING EVERY THREE TO FIVE MINUTES WHILE YOU'RE OUT IN YOUR BACKYARD FRONT YARD, WHEREVER IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, LIKE I SAID, IT'S JUST NOT A PLEASANT FEELING, AND IT DOES TAKE AWAY FROM THE PEACE THAT ALL OF US WISH TO HAVE WHEN WE'RE OUT IN OUR, AROUND OUR HOMES AND OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, AND AFFECTS OUR QUALITY OF LIFE AS WELL. WELL AS OUR PROPERTY VALUES. ON FEBRUARY 3RD, AMAZON DID INDICATE CHANGES WERE BEING MADE TO ADDRESS OUR COMPLAINTS. HOWEVER, A COUPLE OF DAYS BEFORE THAT, I MADE NOTE SITTING INSIDE MY HOME AT MY KITCHEN TABLE ONE MORNING JUST TO KEEP TRACK OF WHAT I HEARD. AND THIS WAS A SUNDAY MORNING BETWEEN 7:30 AM AND 9:00 AM I COUNTED 19 DRONES FLIGHTED DIRECTLY OVER MY HOUSE AND AN HOUR AND A HALF THIS AMOUNTED TO THREE DRONES FLYING OVER MY HOUSE EVERY 15 MINUTES. SOME OF THOSE WERE ONLY THREE TO FIVE MINUTES APART IN A 60 MINUTE TIMEFRAME. AGAIN, I HAD 19 DRONES FLY OVER MY HOME DIRECTLY, AND THE SOUND WE HEAR FROM INSIDE OF OUR HOUSE IS JUST EXTREMELY ANNOYING, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE FREQUENCY THAT WE'RE HEARING THIS SINCE FEBRUARY 3RD. AMAZON HAS MADE SOME CHANGES. UM, WE ARE AWARE OF THOSE AND I KNOW MYSELF AND A LOT OF OUR NEIGHBORS HAVE, UM, COMMENTED AND, AND NOTICED THE CHANGES. HOWEVER, UM, STILL NOT COMPLETELY HAPPY WITH WHAT WE'RE SEEING AND JUST THE NUMBER OF DRONES CRISSCROSSING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD DAILY. UM, ON A 30 MINUTE WALK OR WALKING MY DOG OR RIDING MY BIKE OR JUST STANDING OUT TALKING TO NEIGHBORS, WE'LL SEE TYPICALLY FIVE TO SEVEN DRONES FLY BACK AND FORTH, EITHER OUTGOING OR INCOMING. AND NOW THE FLIGHT PATHS HAVE CHANGED, BUT I'M SEEING THEM CROSS DIAGONALLY ACROSS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD FROM EITHER EAST TO WEST OR WEST TO EAST, AND THEN THEY TURN AND GO NORTH. AND THIS JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME. UM, THEY COULD BE USING TELECOM PARKWAY AND NOT GO OVER ANY HOMES OR FLY ALONG THE NARROW NO-FLY, UH, PATH OUTSIDE OF THE NO-FLY ZONE, WHICH IS BETWEEN THE BUSINESSES TO THE WEST OF US AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE IS A NARROW PATH THAT THEY CAN FOLLOW ALONG THERE AND NOT EVEN HAVE TO FLY OVER OUR HOMES. UM, I HAVE NOTICED THEY'RE FLYING AT A HIGHER ALTITUDE FOR THE MOST PART. HOWEVER, THERE'S STILL SOME THAT I SEE AT A VERY LOW ALTITUDE. UM, I APPRECIATE YOU LISTENING TO ALL OF OUR COMMENTS TODAY. I AM ENCOURAGED THAT AMAZON IS LISTENING AND TRYING TO, UM, REVISE HOW THEY'RE HANDLING ALL OF THIS GOING FORWARD, AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN CONTINUE THE DISCUSSIONS UNTIL WE HAVE A SATISFACTORY RESOLUTION. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. MS. GRAHAM. ANDRE LOU. ANDRE LOU. [00:15:01] OKAY. NICK . SO MY NAME'S NICK AKAS. I LIVE AT 3004 REDCLIFFE COURT. YOU'VE PROBABLY HEARD FROM ME BEFORE. UH, I WANTED TO MAKE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS REGARDING AMAZON DRONES AND OFFER SOME IDEAS TO CONSIDER. WHY ARE THERE SO MANY COMPLAINTS ABOUT AMAZON DRONE NOISE? THE FAA DEEMED THE MK 30 TO HAVE NO SIGNIFICANT IMPACT IN THEIR ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT REPORT? RIGHT? THE FAA CONTINUES TO RELY ON SIMULATIONS BASED ON ANTIQUATED NOISE MODELS AND METRICS THAT ORIGINATED FROM EPA PAPERS WRITTEN IN THE LATE 1970S AND EARLY 1980S, SETTLING ON AN ACCEPTABLE DAY NIGHT AVERAGE SOUND LEVEL, OR DNL OF 65 DBA, ACCORDING TO SOMETHING CALLED THE SCHULTZ CURVE, WHICH PLOTS THE PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE HIGHLY ANNOYED AGAINST DNL. IT INDICATES THAT 65 DBA 10% OF THE PEOPLE WOULD BE HIGHLY ANNOYED. HOWEVER, MORE RECENTLY, THE FAA RELEASED A NEIGHBORHOOD NOISE SURVEY IN 2021 THAT SHOWED ITS 65 DBA, THE ACTUAL ANNOYANCE LEVEL IS ABOUT 65%, EVEN AT 55 DBA, WHICH IS 10 TO BE LOWER. THE ANNOYANCE LEVEL WAS IN THE ORDER OF 30%. OF COURSE, NONE OF THESE STUDIES HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH DRONES FOCUSING INSTEAD ON AIRPORT ROAD AND RAIL NOISE. SO HERE'S IDEA NUMBER ONE. WE ACTUALLY HAVE A GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY. WE HAVE LIVE DATA, A REAL EXPERIMENT GOING ON RIGHT NOW. WHAT IF WE COULD GET UTD TO SUBMIT A REQUEST FOR A GOVERNMENT GRANT TO STUDY DRONE NOISE AND COME UP WITH BETTER NOISE MODELS THAT ACCURATELY REFLECT PUBLIC PERCEPTION? THE RESEARCH COULD POSSIBLY USE CROWDSOURCING BY MAKING USE OF NOISE MEASUREMENT APPS LIKE THE ONE I RECENTLY DOWNLOADED ON MY PHONE. NOW, I UNDERSTAND THOSE APPS ARE NOT AS ACCURATE AS NOISE METERS, BUT WHAT IF THEY'RE WITHIN THREE DB ACCURACY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? IF AMAZON WOULD RELEASE GPS INFORMATION FOR THEIR DRONE FLIGHTS OVER A PERIOD OF TIME WITH DESTINATIONS OBSCURE TO PROTECT PRIVACY, WE COULD CORRELATE WITH THE NOISE EVENTS RECORDED ON PARTICIPATING PHONES ACROSS THE OPERATING REGION. CLEARLY THE IDEA REQUIRES MORE VETTING, BUT I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING TO IT. AND REGARDLESS, I'D RATHER HAVE FUNDING GO TO THE LOCAL UNIVERSITY RESEARCH DRONE NOISE MODELS THAN A GOVERNMENT BUREAUCRACY IDEA. NUMBER TWO, THE DNL METRIC CONSIDERS THE NUMBER OF TIMES YOU ENCOUNTER THE NOISE. WHAT IF AMAZON AGREES TO BAKE DNL INTO THEIR ROUTING ALGORITHMS? FOR EXAMPLE, LET'S SAY THAT MY RESIDENCE IS IN THE DRONE FLIGHT PATH TO A HEAVY AMAZON USER. IF THE AMAZON ROAD, UH, ROUTING ALGORITHM WAS MADE SMARTER, IT COULD CONSIDER THE FREQUENCY OF OVER FLIGHTS OF MY RESIDENCE AND POSSIBLY, POSSIBLY CHOOSE A MORE CIRCUITOUS ROUTE FOR SOME OF THE DELIVERIES TO SPREAD THE PAIN, SO TO SPEAK, AND THEREBY LOWER THE DNL OF MY RESIDENTS. IT MAY NOT BE AS ECONOMICAL FOR AMAZON DUE TO LONGER ROUTES, BUT IF IT IMPROVES PUBLIC PERCEPTION AND IF THEY TRULY CARE ABOUT THE COMMUNITY, IT'S SOMETHING THEY SHOULD INCORPORATE. FURTHERMORE, I THINK THIS COULD BE MORE EFFECTIVE THAN WHAT'S RECENTLY BEEN SUGGESTED, WHICH IS TO INCREASE THE HEIGHT OF DRONE FLIGHTS, FOR EXAMPLE, DOUBLING THE ALTITUDE, WHICH IS PROBABLY NOT PRACTICAL ANYWAY, IS ONLY GOING TO LOWER AN INDIVIDUAL NOISE EVENT BY 60 B. SO SOME OTHER REQUESTS FOR AMAZON. I DON'T PERSONALLY UNDERSTAND WHY MORE PEOPLE AREN'T CONCERNED ABOUT PRIVACY. ALTHOUGH THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER, I WAS GLAD TO HEAR, UH, THEM MENTION THAT. UM, I WOULD LIKE AMAZON TO PUBLISH THE SPECIFICATIONS OF THEIR SO-CALLED LOW RESOLUTION CAMERAS THAT THE DRONES CARRY. AMAZON SHOULD ALSO MODIFY THEIR WEBSITE TO INCLUDE A CLICKABLE MENU BUTTON THAT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO REQUEST THEIR PROPERTY BLURRED RATHER THAN REQUIRING PHONE CALLS TO UNINFORMED AGENTS. MAYBE THEY'RE THESE EXIST AND I HAVEN'T FOUND THEM YET, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE THE INCIDENT REPORTS FOR THE THREE CRASHES OF THE MK 30 DRONE OVER THE LAST SIX MONTHS. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO KNOW WHAT AMAZON DISCOVERED AS THE CAUSES AND WHAT THEY'VE DONE TO MITIGATE THIS ISSUES GOING FORWARD. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A HEAT MAP OF DRONE DELIVERIES OVER THE LAST MONTH TO UNDERSTAND THE BETTER, THE IMPACT ON OUR COMMUNITY. AND FINALLY, I WOULD LIKE AMAZON TO MAKE THEIR ENGINEERS PRESENT TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. HOPEFULLY THEY'RE DOING SO TODAY, ALTHOUGH I DON'T HOLD MY BREATH, THE PUBLIC OUTREACH SCHEDULE FOR TOMORROW IS NOT VERY USEFUL GIVEN IT'S DURING WORK HOURS. FOR MOST OF US, IT'S ESPECIALLY NOT USEFUL IF IT'S GOING TO INVOLVE THE SAME MARKETING AND SALESPEOPLE AS BEFORE, ALL OF WHOM ARE PROBABLY COMPENSATED BASED ON GETTING AMAZON PRIME AIR PASSED THROUGH CITY PLANNING COMMISSIONS. COUNCILS IN THE FAA ENGINEERS, ON THE OTHER HAND, TEND TO WANT TO ANSWER TECHNICAL QUESTIONS. HONESTLY, A TOUR OF THE STX EIGHT FACILITY AND THEIR DRONE OPERATIONS WOULD ALSO BE HELPFUL. IN MY OPINION. I THINK THE COUNCIL SHOULD TOUR THE S STX EIGHT FACILITY. LOOK AT THE OPERATING. UM, HOW ARE THEY LOOKING AT THE DRONES? DO THEY HAVE VIDEOS IN THERE, UH, OR DISPLAYS I SHOULD SAY? YOU KNOW, I DO HOPE SOMETHING COMES FROM THIS MEETING TODAY, AND I WANNA THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK. THANK YOU, MR. SAKAKI. NANCY CROW. GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS NANCY CROW, 2 2 1 5 HONEYSUCKLE DRIVE. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK [00:20:01] TO YOU THIS EVENING. UH, SEVERAL OF MY NEIGHBORS AND I ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE INCREASE IN DRONE ACTIVITY OVER CROWLEY PARK. WHILE WE UNDERSTAND PROGRESS AND PROGRESS, UH, NEEDS TO BE BALANCED WITH QUALITY OF LIFE LATELY, WHILE IN MY YARD ON MY PATIO GARDENING OR WALKING AND CROWLEY PARK, I CONSISTENTLY HEAR THE BUZZ OF DRONES OVERHEAD. AND IT IS VERY IRRITATING AND NOT VERY PEACEFUL. DRONES HAVE REALLY AFFECTED THE PEACE AND PRIVACY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WE ARE CONCERNED IT WILL GET WORSE AS MORE COMPANIES FLY DRONES. MY SUGGESTIONS ARE FLY DRONES ALONG MAJOR ROADWAYS UNTIL THEY GET CLOSE TO THEIR DESTINATION TO MINIMIZE FLIGHTS OVER NEIGHBORHOODS, ENGAGE OUR COMMUNITY BY HAVING PUBLIC HEARINGS WITH RESIDENTS TO UNDERSTAND OUR CONCERNS, REQUIRE QUIETER DRONES. FINALLY, I WOULD APPRECIATE A BROADER EFFORT TO BALANCE THE BENEFIT OF DRONE TECHNOLOGY WITH CONCERNS OF THE PUBLIC REGARDING NOISE AND QUALITY OF LIFE. I WILL ALSO POINT OUT THAT IT IS, UM, I'M AWARE THAT THE CITY OF COLLEGE STATION JUST ENDED THEIR ARRANGEMENT WITH AMAZON BECAUSE OF THESE SAME CONCERNS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, MS. CROW. GARY MARTINI. GOOD EVENING, AND THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK. MY NAME IS GARY MARTINI. MY WIFE AND I LIVE IN THE WOODS OF SPRING CREEK AT 3 4 1 1 WHITE OAK DRIVE. UH, WE MOVED IN OVER SIX YEARS AGO, AND AT THAT TIME, WE NEVER IMAGINED THE REALITY OF REGULAR DRONE TRAFFIC ABOVE OUR HOUSE. WE HAPPENED TO BE IN ONE OF THE MAIN FLIGHT PATHS FOR THE NORTHBOUND TRAFFIC, LEAVING THE FULFILLMENT CENTER AND THEN RETURNING SOUTHBOUND TRAFFIC BACK TO THE CENTER. THIS IS NOT ONLY ABOVE OUR HOUSE, BUT THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AS MY FELLOW NEIGHBOR ON BRADFORD SPOKE, UH, HER COMMENTS, I AGREE WITH ALL OF THOSE, AND, UM, I WON'T REPEAT THOSE FOR REDUNDANCY PURPOSES. I HAVE A FEW ADDITIONAL COMMENTS. UM, WE AND OTHERS, UH, DID NOT BUY OUR HOUSES TO THEN HAVE THEM SIT UNDER A WHAT IS NOW LIKE A DRONE HIGHWAY. UM, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THE, IF THE FLIGHT CEILING IS AT 400 FEET, WHY THEY CAN'T, UM, WHY AMAZON CAN'T HAVE THEIR FLIGHTS CLOSER TO THE CEILING INSTEAD OF DOWN. IT STARTED OUT AT A HUNDRED TO 150. I THINK NOW IT'S AT TWO 200 OR 2 25. I DON'T HAVE THOSE FIGURES EXACTLY RIGHT. BUT THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD HELP NOISE LEVELS, I WOULD BELIEVE. UM, A FEW OTHER CONCERNS. I I JUST EXPECT OTHERS SUCH AS WALMART AND OTHERS, THAT, THAT THEY'LL WANT TO USE THIS SAME TRAVEL PATH OR THE SAME TRAVEL PATH THAT AMAZON HAS SET OUT. I EXPECT THE HOURS OF OPERATIONS TO ONLY INCREASE, MEANING MORE DRONE TRAFFIC IN THE FUTURE. I EXPECT AS DEMAND CALLS FOR IT, THAT MORE DELIVERIES WILL CONTINUE TO INCREASE WITH NO, NO APPARENT LIMITATIONS FROM, UM, AMAZON. NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE. I HOPE THINGS CAN CHANGE, BUT IT MAY ONLY CHANGE WHEN THE DEMAND DECLINES OR NEVER EV ACTUALLY TAKES HOLD OR TAKES OFF. SO IT, THE OPERATIONS WILL HAVE TO STOP BASED ON FINANCIAL REASONS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ALLOWING ME TO VOICE MY COMMENTS AND CONCERNS. THANK YOU, MR. MARTINI. PATRICK JENNINGS. GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK. THIS EVENING WILL PROBABLY COME AS NO SURPRISE GIVEN THE COMMENT CARDS THAT YOU READ OUT AND THE SPEAKERS BEFORE THAT. I'M ALSO HERE TO SPEAK AGAINST THE CONTINUED USE OF THE AMAZON DRONES IN THE CITY. I'M APPEALING TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO DO WHATEVER IS IN THEIR POWER TO RESTRICT OR STOP THESE AMAZON DRONE OPERATIONS FROM THE FACILITY THEY'RE CURRENTLY OPERATING OUT OF ON BRECKENRIDGE ROAD. THE CONTINUED USE OF THESE DRONES REPRESENTS A SIGNIFICANT DECREASE IN THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR RESIDENTS, BOTH IN TERMS OF NOISE, POLLUTION, AND PRIVACY CONCERNS, AS MANY OTHER SPEAKERS HAVE ALREADY ADDRESSED WHILE PROVIDING ZERO BENEFIT TO RICHARDSON RESIDENTS. RICHARDSON IS NOT A RURAL AREA. THE PRODUCTS AVAILABLE BY THESE DRONES ARE AVAILABLE FROM NUMEROUS STORES IN THE AREA AND AMAZON'S OWN ROBUST SERVICES. THESE PRODUCTS CAN BE HAD FOR A FEW HOURS AND VERY MINIMAL EFFORT WITHOUT THE PRIVACY CONCERNS AND THE INCESSANT DRONE NOISE. AMAZON IS NOT A PARTNER WHO CAN BE TRUSTED TO ACT IN GOOD FAITH. THEY NEED STRONG REGULATIONS FROM THIS CITY COUNCIL AND STRONG PUSHBACK ON WHAT THEY ARE DOING TO US. IF YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO BRAND THE DRONES COMPLETELY, I ASK THAT WE ADOPT MANY OF THE, UH, SUGGESTIONS THAT OTHER SPEAKERS HAVE SAID, HAVING THE DRONES NOT PASS OVER A HOUSE MORE THAN ONCE WITHIN A PERIOD, OR FLYING ONLY ALONG ARTERIAL ROADS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND ATTENTION IN THIS MATTER AND ANYTHING YOU CAN DO TO HELP. THANK YOU MR. JENNINGS. BILL RICHARDSON, [00:25:14] UH, MR. MAY CITY COUNSEL, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK. I'LL BE REAL BRIEF. MY NAME IS BILL RICHARDSON. I LIVE AT 26 78 DAFFODIL, UM, AS THE CROW FLIES, I AM DUE WEST OF THE, THE, UH, AMAZON FACILITY BY ABOUT LESS THAN A MILE. UM, AS YOU'VE HEARD FROM THESE FOLKS, THIS IS A, THIS IS BECOMING A REAL PROBLEM WHEN WE HAVE THESE THINGS COMING OVER THE HOUSE AND WE'RE TALKING 30, 40 FEET, WE'RE TALKING TREETOP LEVEL COMING OVER THE HOUSE WHEN THIS IS A CONSISTENT THING, DAY IN AND DAY OUT THIS MORNING BEFORE SEVEN, BEFORE EIGHT O'CLOCK, I HAD SEVEN COME OVER THE HOUSE. SO IT'S, IT IS, IT IS CONSIDERABLY IMPACTING OUR WAY OF LIFE AND OUR, UM, UM, PEACE AND QUIET IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO, AGAIN, I WON'T, I, THESE FOLKS ARE COMING UP WITH A LOT BETTER IDEAS THAN I'VE GOT, BUT AS YOU CAN TELL, WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING. THIS IS, THIS IS, THIS IS UPSETTING A LOT OF PEOPLE FOR NO PARTICULAR REASON. SO I WOULD APPRECIATE ANY INFORMATION THAT YOU CAN GATHER TONIGHT THAT Y'ALL CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH GIVING US A LITTLE BIT OF HELP. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. RICHARDSON. MAYOR, THAT'S THE LAST ONE I HAVE FOR AMAZON. THE NEXT SPEAKER IS ON ANOTHER TOPIC, SO IF YOU WANTED TO SEE IF ANYONE ELSE WANTED TO SPEAK ON AMAZON SINCE IT'S ON THE AGENDA. UH, SURE. ARE THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS THIS EVENING ON AMAZON THAT HAVEN'T SIGNED UP? PLEASE COME FORWARD AS LONG AS YOU PROMISE TO FILL OUT A CARD AS SOON AS YOU'RE DONE. OKAY. JUST COME ON OUT. HI, THANKS FOR THE LAST MINUTE AD. UH, I'M BRIAN BENOY. I LIVE IN, UM, IN CROWLEY PARK. SO GOT A COUPLE OF NEIGHBORS HERE. UH, MY ADDRESS IS 3 3 0 3 NORTH SPRING DRIVE. UM, I AGREE WITH A LOT OF THE COMMENTS. UH, THE ONLY THING I WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT I DIDN'T HEAR ANYBODY ELSE SAY YET, THERE WAS MENTION OF A NO-FLY ZONE. I DON'T KNOW IF THE CITY COUNCIL IS MANAGING THE NO-FLY ZONE OR IF THAT'S LIKE AN AMAZON THING AND THEY'RE IMPOSING THEIR OWN. BUT I WANT TO CAUTION YOU GUYS AGAINST LETTING COMPANIES OR CORPORATIONS MANAGE THEIR OWN NO-FLY ZONES. I WANT YOU GUYS TO THINK ABOUT WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN IF NO FLY ZONES ARE IMPLEMENTED ALL OVER THE PLACE WITH REALLY JUST INFLUENCE BY NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS, CHURCHES, BUSINESSES, WHERE'S ALL THE TRAFFIC GONNA GO? IT'S GONNA GO OVER LOW INCOME PEOPLE WHO ARE UNDERREPRESENTED IN OUR COMMUNITY. OKAY? SO WE NEED TO BE CLEAR AS A CITY THAT WE MANAGE NO FLY ZONES, IF THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO. MY PERSONAL OPINION WOULD BE TO FLY THEM MUCH HIGHER AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR FLIGHT ZONES ARE SQUARE, THEIR FLIGHT PATHS ARE SQUARE, SO THAT THEY DON'T DECREASE IN ALTITUDE AND END UP OVER TREETOPS LIKE WE'VE BEEN SEEING. AND BY THE WAY, THEY DO FLY OVER MY HOUSE PROBABLY 35, 60 TIMES A DAY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. BENOY. OKAY, THE NEXT SPEAKER IS SAYED PURCELL. GOOD EVENING AND THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK. MY NAME IS IAM PER, I WORK AT THE MUSLIM AMERICAN SOCIETY HERE IN RICHARDSON, 1515 BLAKE DRIVE. AND I'M HERE TO READ OUT THE PROCLAMATION THAT WAS, UH, PRESENTED TO US EARLIER THIS EVENING, UH, FROM THE MAYOR IN THE, IN THE CITY COUNCIL. WHEREAS RAMADAN IS A SACRED MONTH OBSERVED BY MUSLIMS AROUND THE WORLD MARKED BY FASTING, PRAYER, REFLECTION COMMUNITY. AND WHEREAS DURING THE HOLY MONTH, MUSLIMS ABSTAIN FROM FOOD AND DRINK FROM DAWN TO SUNSET, ENGAGING IN ACTS OF SELF-DISCIPLINE, EMPATHY, AND SPIRITUAL GROWTH. AND WHEREAS RAMADAN IS A TIME FOR INCREASED DEVOTION, CHARITABLE LIVING, I'M GUESSING IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE GIVING AND COMPASSION TOWARDS THOSE LESS FORTUNATE, EMPHASIZING THE VALUES OF GENEROSITY AND COMMUNITY. AND WHEREAS THE DIVERSITY OF OUR COMMUNITY IS A SOURCE OF STRENGTH, AND THE CELEBRATION OF RELIGIOUS TRADITION FOSTERS UNDERSTANDING, TOLERANCE AND UNITY. AND WHEREAS AS A COMMUNITY, WE RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF ACKNOWLEDGING AND RESPECTING THE RELIGIOUS PRACTICES AND OBSERVANCES OF OUR DIVERSE POPULATIONS. NOW, THEREFORE, I AM MAYOR OMAR, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF RICHARDSON, TEXAS, TO HEREBY PROCLAIM OBSERVANCE OF RAMADAN 2026 IN THE CITY OF RICHARDSON, TEXAS, AS A TIME OF REFLECTION, UNITY, AND COMPASSION, AND ENCOURAGE ALL RESIDENTS TO JOIN IN RECOGNIZING THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THIS HOLY MONTH TO SUPPORT AND ENGAGE WITH THEIR MUSLIM NEIGHBORS TO, IN THE SPIRIT OF UNDERSTANDING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND I JUST WANT TO ECHO THE [00:30:01] INVOCATION REGARDING THE WOMEN THAT ARE MAKING A DIFFERENCE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND RECOGNIZE OUR SISTERS THAT FORMED THE BEDROCK OF OUR OUTREACH COMMITTEE AND THE WORK THAT THEY'VE DONE LONG BEFORE I EVER JOINED THE ORGANIZATION AND APPLAUD THEM FOR THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MEMBERS. SO NO OTHER SPEAKERS, MAYOR. UH, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WISHING TO SPEAK THIS EVENING? ALL RIGHT, I'M NOT SURE WHERE WE ARE IN OUR 30 MINUTES, BUT IF YOU'LL MAKE SURE YOU FILL OUT A CARD WHENEVER YOU'RE DONE SPEAKING, WE'LL TRY TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO SQUEEZE THESE IN. WE HAVE SEVEN MINUTES. THANK YOU. HI, MY NAME IS SCOTT BRANCHER. I'M AT 35 0 5 DEERWOOD COURT, UH, WOODS OF SPRING CREEK. UM, I'M NOT GONNA BE VERY LONG, BUT, UH, I AM STILL OPPOSED TO THE DRONES, BUT I DID WANT TO THANK, UH, MR. MAGNER AND HIS TEAM FOR MEETING WITH US. AND I, I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING WHAT, UH, AMAZON HAS TO SAY. BUT, UH, EVERYBODY ELSE HAS BROUGHT UP A LOT OF, UH, GOOD, GOOD THINGS TO DO, BUT THEY ARE STILL FLYING LOW. IT IS BETTER, BUT IT IS NOT, UM, THEY'RE NOT FLYING AS HIGH AS THEY'RE, THEY SAY THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. NO, I JUST GOT DO THE, I THINK I'VE LIKE IT WRONG. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND WE HAVE ONE LAST ONE. DID WE HAVE ONE OTHER SPEAKER? PLEASE COME ON UP. I THINK WE'VE GOT JUST A FEW MINUTES. LAURA DAM SMALL. HI, MY NAME IS NATALIE PENA. I LIVE AT 2 6 82 CARNATION DRIVE IN CROWLEY PARK. SO GLAD TO SEE SOME OTHER NEIGHBORS HERE. JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK LAST MINUTE. UH, THANK YOU TO COUNCILWOMAN JUSTICE FOR RESPONDING TO MY EMAIL OVER THE WEEKEND. UH, JUST ABOUT OUR CONCERNS. I'M A STAY AT HOME MOM. I'M OUTSIDE A LOT WITH MY KIDS, AND MAN, IT WAS UPSETTING TO TEACH MY DAUGHTER WHAT A DRONE IS. SHE'S ONLY THREE AND MY YOUNGEST IS TWO. AND SO, YEAH, THEY'RE JUST A LOT. AND THEY'RE LOUD. I CAN HEAR 'EM IN OUR BATHROOM, IN OUR BEDROOMS. WHEN I'M BRUSHING MY TEETH, I HEAR THE Z LIKE IT'S DRIVING ME CRAZY. UM, I WATCHED THE PREVIOUS MEETING, I THINK IT WAS IN JUNE THAT THIS WAS APPROVED. NOW WE'RE HERE IN MARCH. UM, IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THIS CAN BE REVOKED. SO MY QUESTION TO COUNCILWOMAN JUSTICE WAS WHAT DO WE DO NOW? HOW DO WE CO-EXIST? I KNOW RICHARDSON IS VERY TECHNOLOGY FOCUSED AND FORWARD, BUT AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT HERE, HOW DO, HOW DO WE LIVE WITH THIS MOVING FORWARD, ESPECIALLY FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE HOME A LOT WITH THEIR KIDS AND POTENTIALLY WANTING TO HOMESCHOOL OUR KIDS AND HAVING THAT NOISE. I REALLY LIKE THE POINT SOMEONE SAID ABOUT, HEY, THESE ITEMS ARE AVAILABLE, WE CAN GO TO WALMART. THE OTHER THING I WAS GONNA SAY IS I LIVE, THERE WAS A MAP IN THE LAST PRESENTATION OF WHERE THE WAREHOUSE IS COMPARED TO THE CLOSEST PROPERTY. I THINK THE CLOSEST WAS 888 FEET FROM THE APARTMENT COMPLEX ON THE WEST SIDE. CROWLEY PARK IS JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF CLEAR SPRINGS FROM THAT. SO I MAY BE LIKE, WHAT, A THOUSAND FEET FROM THE WAREHOUSE, I THINK IN HIS, UH, MR. BAILEY'S POINT. AND THE JUNE MEETING, WAS THAT IN COLLEGE STATION? IT WAS STOPPED BECAUSE IT WAS AROUND 800, 500 FEET. WELL, NOW THE CLOSEST IS EIGHT IS 800. SO THAT'S ONLY 300 FEET FROM THE, IT'S REALLY NOT A LOT OF DELTA IN MY OPINION. SO YEAH, HOW DO WE LIVE WITH THIS? I WOULD LOVE TO SEE MAYBE SOME RESTRICTED HOURS, MAYBE NINE TO FIVE, NINE TO SIX INSTEAD OF SEVEN, WHICH IS EARLY PEOPLE ARE GETTING READY TO GO TO WORK. AND THEN ALSO FREQUENCY. I THINK THAT'S THE BIGGEST THING. THE FREQUENCY IS, IT'S JUST A LOT. AND SO, YEAH, HOW DO WE WORK TOGETHER? UM, THANK YOU GUYS AGAIN SO MUCH. THANK YOU MS. PENA. UM, ALRIGHT. I THINK WE ARE DONE WITH THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION. UH, WE DO HAVE ONE ITEM BEFORE THE, THE DRONE DISCUSSION. SO THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE INTERESTED, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO HANG OUT AND, UH, LISTEN. OUR NEXT [5. REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE 2024-2025 ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL REPORT (ACFR) PRESENTATION] ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER FIVE, WHICH IS REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE 20 24 20 25 ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL REPORT OR THE A CFR, UH, PRESENTATION. MR. MAGNER. THANK YOU MAYOR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL. WE'RE VERY, UH, PLEASED TONIGHT TO HAVE, UH, OUR PARTNERS, UH, FROM CROW, UH, WITH US. UH, JEFF JENSEN, WHO IS, UH, A PARTNER, AND THEN MICHELLE BUSS, WHO IS A SENIOR MANAGER. AND, UH, MICHELLE'S A VERY FAMILIAR FACE TO US, AND WE ALWAYS APPRECIATE HER EFFORTS. BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO, UH, JEFF, UH, MAYOR AND COUNSEL, I DO WANNA ACKNOWLEDGE, UH, TODD CASTOFF, UH, OUR DIRECTOR OF FINANCE, AMY FERGUSON, OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF FINANCE, AND HERMAN CHAVEZ, OUR CONTROLLER OF COURSE, AS WELL AS, UH, KENT FILE. UM, WHAT WE PRESENT TO YOU TONIGHT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT'S DONE OVER THE COURSE OF, UH, SEVERAL, UH, WEEKS, UH, OR MONTHS HERE AS AN AUDIT. IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS DONE DAY IN AND DAY OUT. AND THESE, UM, GREAT FINANCE PROFESSIONALS, UM, REALLY LEAD A TEAM, UH, THAT'S ABLE TO, UM, PULL TOGETHER, UH, THE KIND OF RESULTS THAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE HERE, UH, [00:35:01] SHORTLY. SO, UM, REALLY APPRECIATE, UH, THE WORK, JEFF, THAT, UH, YOU AND, AND MICHELLE AND THE WHOLE CROW TEAM HAS DONE. AND SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU TO BRIEF THE COUNCIL. GREAT, THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. IT'S, UH, MY PRIVILEGE TO BE HERE TONIGHT TO PRESENT THE AUDIT RESULTS FOR THE, UM, FOR THE YEAR ENDED, UH, 2025. AND, UH, WE WENT THROUGH THESE REPORTS IN SIGNIFICANT DETAIL WITH THE AUDIT COMMITTEE HERE EARLIER TODAY. AND SO KEEP MY COMMENTS AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL HERE, BUT HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE, UH, BRIEFLY TO TALK ABOUT THE DIFFERENT OPINIONS THAT ARE PROVIDED AS PART OF OUR AUDIT. FIRST RELATES TO THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS THEMSELVES AND THE CITY RECEIVED AN UNMODIFIED OPINION THIS YEAR, YEAR REGARDING THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS. AND THAT'S THE TYPE OF OPINION YOU WANT YOUR AUDITOR TO BE BRINGING TO YOUR, UH, AUDIT REPORT. UH, WHICH MEANS THAT YOUR FINANCIAL STATEMENTS COMPLY WITH ALL THE APPLICABLE ACCOUNTING PRONOUNCEMENTS AND ARE FREE OF MATERIAL MISSTATEMENT. SO A CLEAN OPINION IS SOME PEOPLE MIGHT REFER TO IT. AND, UH, AGAIN, THOSE ARE GOOD NEWS TO, TO REPORT. UM, NEXT IS AN OPINION OVER INTERNAL CONTROLS OR FINANCIAL REPORTING RELATED TO THE CITY. AND AGAIN, UH, IF WE HAD ANY MATERIAL WEAKNESSES OR SIGNIFICANT DEFICIENCIES IN INTERNAL CONTROL OVER FINANCIAL REPORTING, WE WOULD BE REQUIRED TO MODIFY, UH, THAT OPINION. AND OUR OPINION TONIGHT IS, UH, WITH, UH, RECEIVE NO MODIFICATIONS. SO AGAIN, THERE'S NO, UH, INTERNAL CONTROL MATERIAL WEAKNESSES OR SIGNIFICANT DEFICIENCIES TO, TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION. AND THEN LASTLY, THE OPINIONS RELATED TO FEDERAL COMPLIANCE. SO BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF DOLLARS THAT THE CITY EXPENDS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS RELATED TO FEDERAL FUNDS, UM, YOU'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE A SINGLE AUDIT DONE AS WELL. AND SO, UH, WE ACCOMPLISHED THAT OBJECTIVE THIS YEAR, AND THE CITY RECEIVED AN UNMODIFIED OPINION REGARDING FEDERAL COMPLIANCE. UH, WE DID HAVE ONE, UH, SMALL FINDING RELATED TO, UH, THE FEDERAL COMPLIANCE. AND I THINK YOU'LL FIND IN THE, UH, SINGLE AUDIT REPORT THAT THE CITY HAS PROVIDED AN EXTENSIVE CORRECTIVE ACTION PLAN, WHICH IS, WELL, ON ITS WAY ALREADY TO, UH, PROPERLY ADDRESS THE, THE CONTROL MATTER THAT WE CAME ACROSS AS PART OF, AS PART OF OUR AUDIT. UM, JUST TO ALSO, UH, PROVIDE YOU WITH SOME MORE CONTEXT THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, AS WAS MENTIONED, THIS ISN'T JUST AN OVERNIGHT PROCESS. THERE ARE LITERALLY THOUSANDS OF REQUESTS THAT WE MAKE OF YOUR TEAM TO BE ABLE TO SATISFY OURSELVES THAT THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS ARE ADEQUATELY SUPPORTED AND FREE OF MATERIAL MISSTATEMENT. AND SO, UM, I JUST WANT TO ADD MY THANKS ON BEHALF OF OUR TEAM TO YOUR TEAM FOR THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT THEY PUT INTO PROVIDING US THE INFORMATION TIMELY, WHICH ALLOWS US TO BE ABLE TO CONCLUDE THE AUDIT ON A TIMELY BASIS SO YOU ALL CAN COMPLY WITH, UH, THE STATE LAW REQUIREMENTS THERE. UM, WITH, WITH THAT, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. PERHAPS I SHOULD MAYBE CONSIDER STARTING WITH YOU, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER CORCORAN, SINCE YOU, UH, CHAIR THE AUDIT COMMITTEE. ANY COMMENTS THAT YOU'VE GOT OR QUESTIONS FOR SURE. MR. MAYOR. UH, THANK YOU. YES. SO THE AUDIT COMMITTEE DID MEET RIGHT BEFORE THIS. UM, AND YOU KNOW, I THINK FIRST THINGS FIRST, WE'LL JUST START BY THANKING ALL OF OUR FINANCIAL STAFF AND THE WORK THAT THEY DO. UM, YOU KNOW, TODD, AMY HERMAN, Y'ALL, YOU KNOW, IT'S A VERY, IT'S A VERY AGGRESSIVE TIMELINE THAT WE HAVE TO GET THIS DONE, AND Y'ALL DO A GREAT JOB BEHIND THE SCENES. UM, THIS IS SORT OF THE ONE MEETING A YEAR OUR CONTROLLER AND OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR REALLY PUBLICLY RECOGNIZED. AND SO I REALLY JUST WANNA THANK YOU GUYS FOR THE HARD WORK THAT YOU DID THERE. UM, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW, IF A CITY FAILS TO FILE ITS INDEPENDENT AUDIT WITHIN 180 DAYS AFTER THE CLOSE OF ITS FISCAL YEAR, WE ACTUALLY ARE FORCED TO ADOPT THE NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE OR A LOWER TAX RATE THAN THAT, WHICH CAN HAVE SIGNIFICANT FINANCIAL IMPLICATIONS FOR OUR BUDGET, UM, GOING INTO THE YEAR. AND SO IT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO GET THIS DONE ON TIME, AND Y'ALL EXCEEDED THAT, UM, SUBSTANTIALLY, SO THANK YOU. UH, THE OTHER THING IS, AS FAR AS THE ONE, UM, LEMME MAKE SURE I HAVE THE RIGHT REPORT HERE, BUT AS FAR AS THE ONE ITEM THAT THAT WAS FOUND, IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE AUDIT COMMITTEE FEELS WAS NOT PARTICULARLY SOMETHING THAT THE AUDIT COMMITTEE FEELS. UH, CITY STAFF HAS TAKEN A REALLY GOOD APPROACH TO ADDRESS A VERY AGGRESSIVE APPROACH AS FAR AS THE REMEDIATION PLAN. AND WE HAVE, UH, ANOTHER MEETING THAT WE WERE PLANNING ON HAVING IN THE SUMMER TO ADDRESS THAT AS WELL. AND SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THERE OR ANY OTHER COMMENTS. MAYOR, I'M SORRY, YOU KIND OF CAUGHT ME. YOU CAUGHT ME. I APOLOGIZE. I MID NOTE THERE. THAT'S OKAY. I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T INTEND TO, UH, CATCH YOU OFF GUARD, BUT JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I GAVE YOU THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE. YEAH, I WAS JUST, I THINK FOR THE PUBLIC'S PERSPECTIVE, WE'RE SORT OF TALKING IN VAGARIES ABOUT ARE WE ABLE TO JUST TO DISCUSS WHAT THE FINDING WAS, SO FOR THE PUBLIC'S PURPOSE YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. SURE. IF YOU GUYS WOULDN'T MIND, SURE, I'D BE HAPPY TO DO THAT. SO AS, UM, AS PART OF THE FEDERAL AUDIT, UH, THE PROGRAM THAT WAS SELECTED FOR TESTING THIS YEAR, UH, PART OF IT INCLUDES, UH, WAGE RATE REQUIREMENTS. IT'S UNDER THE SPECIAL TEST SECTION. UM, AND ESSENTIALLY THE CITY'S REQUIRED [00:40:01] TO OBTAIN FROM SUBCONTRACTORS OR YOUR CONTRACTORS, UH, CERTIFICATION THAT, UH, THE PAYROLLS THAT THEY ARE PROVIDING TO THEIR EMPLOYEES RELATED TO THAT CONTRACT ARE AT THE WAGE REQUIREMENTS THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT REQUIRES. UM, WHEN WE CAME OUT TO DO OUR AUDIT, WE WERE UNABLE TO OBTAIN, UH, THOSE CERTIFICATIONS FROM, FROM THE CITY STAFF. UH, AFTER US ASKING ABOUT THOSE, WE WERE, THE CITY WAS ABLE TO OBTAIN, UH, THOSE CERTIFICATIONS AND, AND, UH, IN REVIEW OF THOSE, FOUND THAT ALL OF THOSE WERE STILL IN COMPLIANCE AS FAR AS, UM, YOU KNOW, PROPER WAGES WERE BEING PAID. UH, IT'S JUST THAT THE CONTROL RELATED TO OBTAINING THOSE WAS NOT OPERATING PROPERLY. THANK YOU. SO, I MEAN, A VERY TECHNICAL ISSUE THAT'S BEEN CORRECTED AS IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY. YES. YEAH. SO I MEAN, JUST FOR, FOR REFERENCE, I MEAN, THE CITY'S CORRECTIVE ACTION PLAN, I'M NOT GONNA READ THE WHOLE LIKE SIX OR SEVEN PARAGRAPH ITEM, BUT JUST FOR QUICK REFERENCE, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, OUR CITY STAFF PLAN TO IMPLEMENT, IMPLEMENT A CENTRALIZED ECONOMIC ELECTRONIC REPOSITORY SO THAT FINANCE HAS BETTER ACCESS TO ALL OF THESE DOCUMENTS. UM, THERE'LL BE ENHANCED AUDITS AS WELL. THE CITY IS GONNA CONDUCT PERIODIC INTERNAL COMPLIANCE REVIEWS OF, UH, GRANT TESTING, AND THEN THERE'LL ALSO BE PRE AND POST AWARD MEETINGS THAT WERE NOT PREVIOUSLY HAD TO REALLY DISCUSS IN DEPTH BETWEEN FINANCE AND THE RESPECTIVE GRANT DEPARTMENTS. UM, AND THAT'S JUST THE SORT OF THE THREE HIGHLIGHTS. THERE'S ANOTHER THREE OR FOUR PARAGRAPHS IN HERE OF SORT MORE MINOR CHANGES THAT THE CITY PLANS TO IMPLEMENT, UM, ALL NEW THINGS. AND SO AGAIN, WE FEEL LIKE IT'S A VERY COMPREHENSIVE CORRECTIVE ACTION PLAN FOR REALLY THE, THE GRAVITY OF THE SITUATION, WHICH IT COMPARED TO EVEN PAST AUDITS THAT THIS COUNCIL HAS SEEN, UM, ARE, IS NOT AS SIGNIFICANT. SO WE'RE, WE'RE VERY CONFIDENT, UH, THAT IT'S A GOOD ACTION PLAN AND THAT, UH, CITY STAFF WILL SEE IT THROUGH. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER CORCORAN, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH THE CITY. APPRECIATE. ABSOLUTELY. ALRIGHT, WE'LL [6. REVIEW AND DISCUSS AMAZON DRONE OPERATIONS ] MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER SIX, WHICH IS TO REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE AMAZON DRONE OPERATIONS. MR. MAGNER. UH, THANK YOU MARION COUNSEL, UH, SAM BAILEY, UM, WHO IS, UH, BEEN MENTIONED TONIGHT IS A FAMILIAR FACE TO THE COUNCIL AND TO MANY OF THEIR SPEAKERS IS HERE TO REPRESENT AMAZON TONIGHT. UH, SAM IS GOING TO, UH, UH, MAKE A PRESENTATION HERE AND WE'LL GIVE HIM A CHANCE TO SET UP, UH, AT THE TABLE AS, UH, CROW DEPARTS AND OUR FINANCE TEAM DEPARTS. UM, AND THEN, UH, SAM WILL BE AVAILABLE TO THE COUNCIL, UH, FOR QUESTIONS. I, I DO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT, UH, TOMORROW, UH, SAM HAS AGREED TO STAY OVER AND, UH, TO ALSO, UM, UH, PARTICIPATE IN AN OPEN HOUSE FROM, UH, NINE TO 10:30 AM AT, UH, THE IQ HQ AT 1302, UH, EAST COLLINS. UM, I REALIZE THAT THAT ISN'T THE MOST CONVENIENT TIME, BUT WE WILL, WORKING ON A SCHEDULE OF, UH, HAVING SAM, UH, BE ABLE TO TAKE PART IN THAT MEETING WHILE HE WAS STILL HERE BEFORE HAVING TO FLY OUT, OUT, UH, BACK, UH, FOR OTHER BUSINESS. AND SO WE DO APPRECIATE, UH, THE GESTURE THAT SAM MADE AND, AND HAVING THAT OPEN HOUSE SCHEDULED TOMORROW MORNING, EVEN THOUGH IT MAY NOT BE, UH, CONVENIENT FOR EVERYONE. UH, I DO ALSO KNOW THAT, UH, SAM IS, UH, STATED THAT, UH, HE'S MORE THAN WILLING TO CONTINUE TO HAVE AN ONGOING DIALOGUE, UH, WITH, UH, WITH RESIDENTS, UH, EVEN BEYOND THE OPEN HOUSE TOMORROW. AND SO, SAM, I DO APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORT TO GET HERE AND, UH, TAKE PART IN OUR MEETING TONIGHT AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU TO BRIEF THE COUNCIL AND THEN BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. GREAT. THANK YOU. UH, DON, UH, MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME, UH, THIS EVENING AND APPRECIATE THE PARTICIPATION OF RESIDENCE HERE IN THE CITY OF RICHARDSON. UH, MY GOAL TONIGHT IS TO PROVIDE YOU WITH A PRESENTATION ON, UM, THE CURRENT OPERATIONS FROM STX EIGHT, AS WELL AS CHANGES WE'VE IMPLEMENTED AT THE SITE, AS WELL AS ADDRESS THE FEBRUARY 4TH DRONE INCIDENT THAT OCCURRED HERE IN THE CITY OF RICHARDSON. UM, I'LL MOVE THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION AND THEN I'M HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS. AS MR. MAGNER POINTED OUT, UM, WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THIS APPROVAL PROCESS, WE COMMITTED TO BEING A GOOD PARTNER, COMING BACK, COMMUNICATING, TAKING THAT FEEDBACK. WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO DO SO TOMORROW IS JUST ONE EXAMPLE. WE LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO CONTINUE TO CONNECT WITH THE RESIDENTS. SO, AGAIN, I'LL MOVE THROUGH A COUPLE OF THESE, A FEW OF THESE ITEMS JUST TO PROVIDE PERSPECTIVE AS TO, UM, WHERE WE STARTED AND WHERE OUR CURRENT OPERATIONS ARE. UM, AS JUST BACKGROUND, AGAIN, MY NAME IS SAM BAILEY. I'M A SENIOR MANAGER OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT POLICY FRAMES ON SUPPORT PRIMARY EXPANSION IN THE UNITED STATES. PRIME IS NOW CURRENTLY OPERATING, UH, BEYOND RICHARDSON IN ARIZONA, FLORIDA, KANSAS, MICHIGAN, OREGON, UH, WITH SITES GOING ONLINE IN OTHER STATES AS WELL AS PART OF OUR NATIONAL EXPANSION. UM, AS PART OF THE FEEDBACK WE RECEIVED, UM, IN JUNE OF, UH, LAST YEAR, UM, WE SECURED THE APPROVAL FROM THE CITY COUNCIL, THEN PROCEEDED TO BUILDING PERMIT MAIN CONSTRUCTION. WE ALSO REMOVED OUR FLEET OF KIA SOULS, UH, AS THE SITE WAS REFERRED TO AS THE SOLE SITE A COUPLE TIMES, UM, THAT, UH, RESULTED IN A SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION IN AUTOMOTIVE TRAFFIC FROM THE SITE. JUST A REMINDER, UM, OUR OPERATIONS AT STX EIGHT [00:45:01] ARE WHERE DRONES DEPART FROM. THEY HAVE A SERVICE TERRITORY OF SEVEN AND A HALF MILES WITHIN APPLICABLE AIRSPACE AND CONDUCT THOSE DELIVERIES UNDER 400 FEET OF ELEVATION, DELIVERING TO THE CUSTOMER IN THE MOST EFFICIENT ROUTE POSSIBLE, TAKING INTO ACCOUNT, UM, THINGS SUCH AS NO FLY ZONES OR OTHER OBSTACLES. UM, IT'S IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT THAT WHEN WE, UH, DETERMINE WHERE WE ARE GONNA BE DELIVERING OUR GOALS TO AT MAXIMUM ASSIGNED THREE DELIVERY POINTS TO EACH, UH, RESIDENTIAL, UH, UNIT, WHERE WE WILL BE DELIVERING TO EACH OF THOSE DELIVERY POINTS REFLECTS AN INDIVIDUAL FLIGHT PLAN. SO IN THE, IN THE CASE OF, UM, OUR SITE STX EIGHT, THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF FLIGHT PLANS THAT ARE LOGGED, UH, FROM THAT, UM, PADDOCK, THE PRIMARY DRONE DELIVERY CENTER TO THE CUSTOMER'S PREDEFINED DELIVERY ADDRESS. SO THOUSANDS OF FLIGHT PLANS THAT WE CREATE. AND SO ANY ONE MODEST CHANGE CAN IMPACT THOUSANDS OF FLIGHT PLAN PLANS. SIMULTANEOUSLY, JUST REVIEWING, UH, WHERE WE WERE AND WHERE WE'VE COME. THIS PROJECT WAS FORMALLY INTRODUCED TO THE CITY IN EARLY 2025. WE MET WITH THE CREEK HOLLOW STATE'S, HOA BOARD AND NEIGHBORS. WE WENT THROUGH CITY PLANNING COMMISSION. WE CONDUCTED, UH, VIRTUAL, UH, MEETINGS WITH CROWLEY PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION BOARD PRESIDENT. UM, WE HOSTED AN EVENT WITH OUR DRONE, UM, THE MK 30 AT THE A LOFT RICHARDSON. UM, WE WERE HERE BEFORE COUNCIL IN JUNE. UM, WE WERE, WE WERE APPROVED BY A FOUR THREE VOTE. AND THEN BETWEEN AUGUST AND NOVEMBER, WE WENT INTO PERMITTING AND CONSTRUCTION TO BUILD OUT THE PRIMARY DRONE DELIVERY CENTER. UM, THE PRIMARY DRONE DELIVERY CENTER IS LESS THAN 10,000 SQUARE FEET. THAT WAS ONE OF THE, UM, UH, CONDITIONS WHEN WE WERE APPROVED THAT IT'D BE NO LARGER THAN 10,000 SQUARE FEET, UH, AND THAT WE OPERATE BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 7:00 AM AND 8:00 PM ON DECEMBER 3RD, PRIMARY DRONE DELIVERY SERVICE LAUNCHED OUR FIRST DAY. WE COMPLETED 89 DELIVERIES VIA DRONE. DECEMBER 16TH IS WHEN WE RECEIVED OUR FIRST IN INQUIRY FROM, UH, THE WOOD CREEK CHURCH. PASTOR LILY REACHED OUT TO US REGARDING AN OVER FLIGHT OF THE GREENWAY, JUST EAST OF THE CHURCH. UH, WE, I RESPONDED, UH, PERSONALLY TO HIM, REACHED OUT TO DISCUSS HOW WE COULD BECOME, UH, A BETTER NEIGHBOR. UM, WE RECEIVED ADDITIONAL INQUIRIES IN EARLY JANUARY FROM WOOD CREEK, CHURCH CREEK HOLLOW STATES, AS WELL AS WOODS OF THE SPRING CREEK, MANY OF WHOM ARE PRESENT HERE TODAY. UH, FOR SIMILAR ISSUES THAT YOU'VE HEARD TONIGHT, FLIGHT FREQUENCY, NOISE OVER FLIGHT, SOME, UM, QUESTIONS REGARDING HOW THE PROJECT WAS APPROVED. ON JANUARY 16TH, I WAS HERE IN PERSON WITH SENIOR LEADERS FROM PRIMARY. WE MET WITH MR. MAGNER, MR. GOFF, MAYOR OMAR, AND COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE, UH, TO TAKE THAT FEEDBACK, ANSWER QUESTIONS, AND IDENTIFY, UH, MEANS THAT WE COULD UNDERTAKE TO ENHANCE THE CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE FOR THOSE, UH, HERE IN THE COMMUNITY. UH, FEBRUARY 3RD, WE COMMUNICATED THOSE CHANGES BACK AND MADE IMPLEMENTATIONS TO, UH, SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT I'LL WALK THROUGH HERE. ON FEBRUARY 4TH. WE DID, UH, REPORT A, UH, DRONE INCIDENT THAT OCCURRED AT THE SPRING HILL APARTMENTS. UM, WE, AND I'LL SPEAK TO THAT, UH, GREATER LENGTH IN THE PRESENTATION. I DID MAKE OUTREACH TO MR. MAGNER THAT NIGHT, THE DAY AFTER, AND I BELIEVE THE FOLLOWING MONDAY, UH, REGARDING THE FACTORS OF THAT INCIDENT. AND THEN WE'RE HERE MARCH 9TH, MEETING WITH CITY COUNCIL. AND I WILL BE HERE TOMORROW MORNING OR AT THE, UH, LOCATION, UH, TO TALK WITH ANY RESIDENTS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN CONNECTING. UM, THIS IS NOT ALL WE ARE PLANNING TO DO. WE ARE LOOKING AT OTHER WAYS TO ENGAGE OUR HOA PARTNERS TO DISCUSS CHANGES WE'VE MADE AND TAKE ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK. JUST TO PROVIDE PERSPECTIVE HERE. THIS IS OUR FULFILLMENT CENTER, SST XA RIGHT HERE. THIS IS THE, UH, NO FLY ZONE, UH, OVER, UH, METHODIST RICHARDSON MEDICAL CENTER. UM, AND THIS IS REALLY OUR AREA OF OPERATION THAT WE ARE DELIVERING TO. UM, I CAN ONLY SPEAK FOR PRIME AIR OPERATIONS. I CAN'T SPEAK FOR OTHER OPERATORS THAT ARE OPERATING IN FROM OR, UM, ARE IN RICHARDSON FROM RICHARDSON OR JASON MARKETS. WE'VE TAKEN FEEDBACK THROUGH A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT CHANNELS. UM, ONE IS DIRECT EMAIL. MY EMAIL AND PHONE NUMBERS, UH, BEEN ON A LOT OF PRESENTATIONS, SO PEOPLE HAVE HAD ACCESS TO IT. THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO REACH OUT TO ME DIRECTLY, UH, AS WELL AS AMAZON DRONE FEEDBACK@AMAZON.COM. THAT IS ALSO MONITORED BY MY TEAM. UH, SO WE CAN TRACK THAT, THOSE INQUIRIES. UM, WE HAVE, UH, INQUIRIES THROUGH CUSTOMER SERVICE AS WELL AS OUTREACH THAT'S COME DIRECTLY FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS OR CITY STAFF DIRECTLY. UM, WE'VE AGGREGATED THAT AND THE FEEDBACK TOPICS COME DOWN TO MUCH OF WHAT YOU'VE HEARD THIS EVENING. UM, SOME AROUND THE APPROVAL PROCESS, UH, FLIGHT ALTITUDES AND NOISE, AND THEN OVER FLIGHT OF THE GREENWAY EAST OF THE CHURCH. AND REALLY, UM, I THINK THE, THE, UM, THAT NEIGHBORHOOD JUST NORTH OF THE CHURCH, THAT PARTICULAR FLIGHT PATH AROUND THE NO-FLY ZONE. UM, SO AGAIN, WE LAUNCHED ON DECEMBER 3RD. OUR SERVICE OPERATIONS ARE FROM 7:00 AM TO 8:00 PM. UM, WE DID SEE A MEDIA REPORT CLAIMING THAT WE WERE FLYING AT 6:30 AM THAT WAS NOT AN AMAZON DRONE. JUST TO BE VERY CLEAR, WE DO NOT OPERATE, [00:50:01] UM, OUTSIDE OF THE HOURS THAT WERE PRESCRIBED. WE, AGAIN, WE CAN'T SPEAK TO OTHER OPERATORS IF THEY'RE OPERATING IN THE FACILITY. WE DID REACH OUT TO THAT MEDIA OUTLET AND TRY AND CORRECT THAT AND LET THEM KNOW THAT THAT WAS, WE ACTUALLY DIDN'T EVEN HAVE STAFF ON SITE TO FLY AT THE DRONES AT THE TIME, UM, THAT THEY MADE MINIMAL CORRECTION TO THAT STORY. UM, SINCE LAUNCH, WE HAVE DELIVERED 13,000 CUSTOMER ORDERS FROM THE SITE, OR OVER 13,000 ORDERS VIA DRONE. UM, THIS IS ON TOP OF OUR NET NEW JOB CREATION AT THE SITE ON JANUARY 16TH. WHEN WE MET WITH, UM, MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER AND, UM, DON AND CHARLES, UM, WE TOOK FEEDBACK THAT WAS, AGAIN, I THINK REPRESENTATIVE OF WHAT YOU'VE HEARD THIS EVENING, UH, AND IDENTIFIED WHAT ARE THE WAYS WE COULD, UM, ENHANCE, UH, THE COMMUNITY EXPERIENCE FROM PRIME. UM, WHAT YOU SEE HERE, THE BLUE OUTLINE IS OUR PROPERTY. THE YELLOW RECTANGLE IS THE PADDOCK OR THE PRIMARY DRONE DELIVERY CENTER. THE RED CIRCLE IS THE NO FLY ZONE AROUND METHODIST RICHARDSON MEDICAL CENTER. AND THEN THIS AREA, THE SHADED AREA IS WHERE I'M CONCENTRATING MOST OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE RECEIVED REGARDING OVER FLIGHT, FLIGHT PATHS, UM, AND NOISE, UH, COMING FROM THE SITE, WE'VE MADE SOME CHANGES THAT WE DISCUSSED WITH THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER DURING THAT MEETING. WE'VE IMPLEMENTED THOSE. THAT INCLUDES INCREASING OUR MINIMUM ALTITUDE FOR OUR OUTBOUND FLIGHTS UP TO 225 FEET. UM, WE'VE ALSO REDIRECTED SOME OF THE OUTBOUND FLIGHTS. SO INSTEAD OF THE CONCENTRATION OF FLIGHTS THAT ARE FLYING NORTHBOUND THROUGH THIS AREA, WE ARE CREATING ADDITIONAL ROUTING TO ROUTE THEM EASTWARD OVER THE COMMERCIAL AREA BEFORE THEY WOULD THEN NAVIGATE NORTH, UM, OR TO OTHER LOCATIONS. AND THIS WILL ULTIMATELY RESULT IN A REDUCTION OF, OF THE OVERFLIGHT OF THE GREENWAY, UH, EAST AREA, UH, NEAR THE CHURCH. WE ARE ALSO WORKING TO ENSURE THAT OUR DRONES CAN SAFELY OPERATE AROUND THE NO-FLY ZONE HUGGING THIS COMMERCIAL AREA AS WELL. SO, AGAIN, BETWEEN SOME, UH, OUTBOUND REDIRECTION OF OUR FLIGHTS, UM, AS WELL AS, UM, INCREASING OUR AVERAGE FLIGHT ALTITUDE FOR OUTBOUND FLIGHTS. UM, THOSE CHANGES WE'VE IMPLEMENTED, WE ARE CONTINUING TO TRACK AND TEST THOSE. UM, WE'RE, UM, IT'S HELPFUL TO HEAR, UM, THAT SOME OF THOSE CHANGES ARE BEING NOTICED. CERTAINLY THERE'S MORE TO DO. WE JUST WANNA PROVIDE THAT, THOSE CHANGES THAT WE'VE IMPLEMENTED SINCE THE JANUARY 6TH MEETING. UM, LASTLY, I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE DRONE INCIDENT THAT OCCURRED ON FEBRUARY 4TH, UM, IN THE AFTERNOON AT THE SPRING HILL, UH, APARTMENTS ON RUTH CREEK PARKWAY. UM, A DRONE CONDUCTED A DELIVERY AND ON UPON DEPARTING, UM, AND ASCENDING STRUCK A GUTTER OF AN APARTMENT BUILDING, UM, AS IT WAS ASCENDING TO RETURN TO THE FULFILLMENT CENTER. UH, THE DRONE ATTEMPTED SAFE CONTINGENT LANDING, UM, BUT FELL TO THE GROUND. UH, RICHARDSON FIRE DEPARTMENT DID RESPOND TO THE EVENT. THEY, UH, INSPECTED IT AND DEEMED IT SAFE FOR AMAZON TO RETRIEVE, UH, PER OUR POLICY. UM, AN INCIDENT REPORT WAS FILED WITH THE FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION. FOLLOWING THAT INCIDENT, I ALSO CONTACTED MR. MAGNER THAT EVENING TO BRIEF HIM ON THE EVENT, LET HIM KNOW THAT WE WOULD BE REVIEWING THAT AND WE'D BE FOLLOWING UP ON SOME OF THE CONTEXT. UM, WE HOLD BRIEFINGS WITH THE FA TO DISCUSS OUR FINDINGS AND TO, TO IDENTIFY CORRECTIVE ACTIONS WE CAN TAKE. UM, UPON THE REVIEW OF THAT INCIDENT, WE IDENTIFIED THAT, UM, WE HAD SOME TYPE OF INTERFERENCE REGARDING GPS NEXT TO A BUILDING OF THAT SIZE. AND FOLLOWING THAT INCIDENT, WE'VE REMOVED ALL BUILDINGS OF SIMILAR, UM, HEIGHT AND SIZE, UH, FROM OUR DELIVERY PORTFOLIO. SO IT MEANS LARGER MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENTS UNTIL WE CONTINUE TO EVALUATE THAT. SO THAT WAS A SIGNIFICANT CORRECTION ACTION WE TOOK TO ELIMINATE DRONE DELIVERY FROM STRUCTURES OF THAT TYPE. WHILE WE CONTINUE TO REVIEW THIS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE FAA, THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTION. UH, THE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS OR STAFF MAY HAVE, UH, AND APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK, UH, BOTH FROM THE RESIDENTS HERE AND THE COUNCIL MEMBERS. THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER DWAYNE. THANK YOU, MAYOR. SAM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT. AND, AND THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO THE RESIDENTS AND STAKEHOLDERS, UH, IN RICHARDSON AND MAKING SOME OF THESE, UH, MODIFICATIONS. I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE, UH, INDIVIDUAL RESIDENTS AT, UH, GOT UP AND SPOKE EARLIER. I DID TAKE SOME NOTES. I WAS GONNA ADDRESS A COUPLE THINGS. SURE. UM, AND BRING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION. UM, ONE FIRST THING I WANNA SAY IS THIS, THIS TECHNOLOGY IS INEVITABLE. I MEAN, IT'S, UH, SOMETHING THAT WE ARE GONNA HAVE TO GET USED TO, BUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO WITH ALL NEW TECHNOLOGY AND ALL NEW, UH, FORMATS OF TECHNOLOGY IS TO FIND WAYS TO WORK WITH IT AND MAKE CHANGES ALONG THE WAY. UH, THERE WERE A COUPLE THINGS TONIGHT. I, I, UH, SORT OF KEYED IN ON, UH, ONE AS THE, WELL, FIRST OF ALL, NUMBER ONE, TRAFFIC AND, AND HOW THE FLOW OF THE DRONES, UM, MANEUVER, WHETHER IT'S DOWN OVER, ACROSS, UH, [00:55:01] HOMES OR APARTMENTS AND, OR IS IT TAKING A MAIN ARTERY OR A SECONDARY ARTERY, I THINK JUST LIKE A VEHICLE, AND A COUPLE OF PEOPLE MENTIONED, UH, THEY, HOW MANY TIMES CAN YOU HEAR A, UH, VEHICLE OPPOSED TO THE DRONE? UH, GRANTED, I DO, I DO AGREE THAT THE DRONES NEED TO FLY A LITTLE HIGHER. OF COURSE, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO DROP TO A CERTAIN LEVEL IN ORDER TO DROP THE PACKAGE FOR SECURITY REASONS AND BREAKABILITY AND SO FORTH. BUT THE, UH, THE IMPORTANT PART IS, IS IF WE CAN USE THOSE SECONDARY OR PRIMARY ARTERIES, JUST LIKE A VEHICLE TO WHERE, WHEN IT GETS TO THAT DESTINATION, WHETHER IT'S GOING INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD OR, UM, OR A BUSINESS THAT WE CAN POTENTIALLY, UM, START CLEANING THAT UP A LITTLE BIT TO WHERE IT HAS IT, IT KNOWS WHERE TO FLY, WHERE THOSE SECONDARY MAIN ARTERIES ARE AT, AT A, AT A HIGHER, UH, AT A HIGHER RATE. AND THEN AS IT GETS CLOSER TO THE, UM, DESTINATION, IT CAN DROP ACCORDINGLY. UH, ONE OF THE COUPLE THINGS TO THAT IS SOMEONE MENTIONED ABOUT BLURRING OUT THE HOMES AS IT'S COLLECTING DATA. I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT, UM, TO BE CONSIDERED HOW MUCH DATA IS IT COLLECTING AND HOW MUCH IS, UH, GOING, GOING TO EVENTUALLY BE PUBLIC INFORMATION. SO I THINK THE BLURRED HOMES, I THINK THAT'S, UH, WAS, UH, SOMEONE MENTIONED THAT EARLIER. I, I SUPPORT THAT. UH, THE OTHER, UH, THING THAT WAS MENTIONED WAS THERE WAS A HEAT MAP AND POTENTIALLY A CAMERA ROLL OF WHERE THOSE DRONES ARE FLYING. IS THAT SOMETHING POTENTIALLY THAT WOULD IN THE FUTURE BE CONSIDERED, UH, DATA THAT WOULD BE PUT ON THE WEBSITE, OR IS THAT BREAK THAT SORT OF, UM, PRIVACY OR NOT JUST, NOT JUST WITH AMAZON, BUT FOR THE RESIDENTS AS WELL? A COUNCIL MEMBER? IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'M HAPPY TO WALK THROUGH AND ADDRESS SOME OF THESE I ITEMS. OKAY. UM, LET'S START WITH PRIVACY. THAT'S OUR UTMOST IMPORTANCE WITH CUSTOMER PRIVACY. AS THE DRONE TRANSITS FROM STX EIGHT TO THE CUSTOMER, THERE IS A FORWARD FACING CAMERA AND LIDAR SYSTEM THAT IS DETECTING OBSTACLES AND SCAN FOR OBSTACLES THAT ARE, UM, IN THE AIR. AND THEN THE PERCEPTION SYSTEM AS IT DESCENDS, IT IS SCANNING THAT DELIVERY POINT TO MAKE SURE THERE AREN'T KIDS, HUMANS, DOGS, OBSTACLES. AT THE POINT OF DELIVERY, THERE ARE NO CAMERAS FACING DOWNWARDS COLLECTING DATA OF INDIVIDUALS, CARS, LICENSE PLATES. WE DON'T HAVE THAT CAPABILITY LIKE A FIRST RESPONDER TYPE DRONE. UM, SO WE AREN'T COLLECTING, UM, IMAGERY OF PEOPLE'S BACKYARDS. WE'RE COLLECTING SENSORY OF FORWARD FACING FLIGHT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN IDENTIFY AN OBSTACLE AND THEN SAFELY AVOID, AVOID IT. UM, EVEN WHEN WE GET DOWN TO THE POINT OF DELIVERY, WE'RE AGAIN CONDUCTING THAT SCAN. THE, THE, UH, FOOTAGE THAT IS TAKEN OF BOTH THE FORWARD FACING VIEW AND THE PERCEPTION SYSTEM STAYS ON THE DRONE. UM, IT IS NOT, UM, UH, BEING VIEWED BY THE FLIGHT MONITOR, UH, DIRECTLY. THEY ARE VIEWING WEATHER AND TRAFFIC RADAR, UM, AS THE DRONE, UH, MOVES THROUGH THE SKY. UM, SO WE AREN'T, WE DON'T HAVE CAPABILITIES TO LOOK AT PEOPLE WHEN THEY'RE IN, AT THEIR HOME OR TO TAKE A SCAN OF A LICENSE PLATE, UM, OR TO CREATE A, A, A, A CIRCUMSTANCE WHERE THEIR PRIVACY WOULD BE IN JEOPARDY. WE DON'T SELL THAT INFORMATION. IT IS ON AMAZON AWS SYSTEMS. UM, WE TAKE THAT AS THE UTMOST CONCERN TO PROTECT THAT PRIVACY. UM, IF YOU WERE TO STEP INTO THE FLIGHT MONITORS, UH, UH, AREA WITHIN STXA, YOU WOULD SEE, UM, TWO MONITORS WITH A DR, A DRONE OPERATOR LOOKING AT RADAR, AND THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE TELEMETRY, UH, THAT THE DRONE IS UNDERTAKING FROM AIR, UH, THEIR ALTITUDE, AIR SPEEDED, UM, AS IT TRANSITS. UM, WE'VE WORKED DILIGENTLY WITH OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE TEAM REGARDING BLURRING OUT HOME. SO THOSE CUSTOMERS WHO DO WANNA REACH OUT AND, UH, REMOVE THEMSELVES OF FROM DRONE DELIVERY, UM, I'VE SPOKEN WITH THAT TEAM DIRECTLY TO ENHANCE THE CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE. I KNOW SOMEONE HERE MENTIONED, UM, THAT THEY HAD TO GO THROUGH THAT. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ARE CONSTANTLY LOOKING TO IMPROVE SO THAT IF SOMEONE DOES, UH, WANT TO OPT OUT AND BLUR IT JUST AS THEY CAN ON THE GOOGLE MAPS SO THAT THEY CAN UNDERTAKE THAT WORK WITH US, WE HAVE COMMITTED TO FLYING AT THAT HIGHER ALTITUDE WITH AN AVERAGE MINIMUM OF 225 FEET. WE'RE CONTINUING TO EVALUATE THAT, EVALUATE HOW THAT'S IMPACTING DELIVERIES AND ROUTING WITHIN, UH, THE CITY OF RICHARDSON'S TERRITORY. UM, REGARDING FLIGHT PATHS OVER ROADS, I'M HAPPY TO FOLLOW UP WITH ADDITIONAL INFORMATION REGARDING THE FAS UM, UH, PERSPECTIVE ON US FLYING OVER MAJOR ROADWAYS. UM, ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE IS WE ARE TAKING THE MOST DIRECT FLIGHT TO THE CUSTOMER TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THAT'S STANDING NO FLIES ZONE THAT IS CURRENTLY IN PLACE. UM, ROUTING OVER ROADS, I, WE THINK CREATES AN ADDITIONAL SAFETY ISSUE, WOULD CONSUME DRASTICALLY MORE ENERGY. IT'S ALSO, UM, NOT SOMETHING THAT, UH, OTHER DRONE OPERATORS MAY BE SUBSCRIBING TO. AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF COORDINATION THAT NEEDS TO GO INTO PLACE, BUT HAPPY TO FOLLOW UP WITH SOME ADDITIONAL [01:00:01] INFORMATION REGARDING THE FA A'S POSITION ON THAT. GREAT. WELL DONE. I APPRECIATE YOU ANSWERING THAT. THANK YOU, COUNSEL. THE, UM, AS FAR AS, AS FAR AS THE, UH, THE NOISE STUDY, UM, I MEAN, OF COURSE DRONES ARE ALWAYS EVOLVING AT THE MOMENT, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, EVEN I HEARD ONE IN THE, IN, IN MY BACKYARD OVER THE ALLEY NOT TOO LONG AGO. SO I, I CAN KIND OF TELL THE, THE DECIMAL LEVEL OF THOSE DRONES, BUT, UH, AS TECHNOLOGY CHANGES, AND I'M SURE AMAZON IS AMENABLE TO THIS, I'M, I'M ASSUMING THAT WE'LL LOOK AT, UH, STRENGTHENING THAT NOISE CONTROL, UH, AND HOPEFULLY POTENTIALLY LOOKING AT ALTERNATE ZONE OR, UH, DRONES THAT ALLOW LESS, LESS PROPELLER, UH, OPERATIONS. SO THERE'S A LOT OF THE TIMES THE PROPELLERS ARE GOING SO QUICK. I MEAN, YOU, YOU HEAR THE BUZZING NOISE AS IT TRAVELS OVER YOUR HOME. SO, I MEAN, IS THAT SOMETHING YOU'RE LOOKING INTO CURRENTLY, OR IS, I MEAN, I KNOW Y'ALL HAVE INVESTED A LOT JUST ON THEIR CURRENT DRUM SYSTEM AND COUNCIL MEMBER. OUR EVOLUTION FROM THE MARK 27, WHICH WAS DEPLOYED IN COLLEGE STATION, UM, TO THE MARK 30 REFLECTED THAT REDUCTION, UM, IN NOISE AND INCREASE IN SAFETY. UM, WE ALSO ENDED THAT SERVICE IN COLLEGE STATION BECAUSE IT, THAT SITE SPECIFICALLY WAS NOT AN OPERATIONAL SITE THAT STORED INVENTORY, SO IT REALLY WASN'T FIT FOR AMAZON OPERATIONS TO EXPAND. IT IS SOMETHING WE ARE CONSTANTLY LOOKING AT EVOLVING. UM, TO BE PERFECTLY CLEAR, AS WE LOOK AT OUR, OUR MARK 30, IF WE WERE TO IMPLEMENT A NEW VEHICLE, JUST HYPOTHETICALLY A MARK 31 OR 33, WHATEVER THE NUMBER WOULD BE, THAT NEW VEHICLE WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH AN FA REVIEW AND APPROVAL PROCESS. WE WOULD HAVE TO CONDUCT A NEW ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT ASSESSMENT, UH, TO APPROVE AND DEPLOY THAT DRONE, UH, FROM ANY SITE. UM, SO RIGHT NOW WE ARE FOCUSED ON LEVERAGING THE MARK 30 ENHANCING WITH SOFTWARE. UM, UH, BUT I CAN'T PROVIDE A DATE IN WHICH WE WOULD DEPLOY A NEW, UM, TYPE OF HARDWARE INTO SERVICE. OKAY. I I, I APPRECIATE THAT. UM, ONE, UH, ONE LAST QUESTION. UH, IT'S FROM A SECURITY STANDPOINT. I KNOW IT'S BEEN MENTIONED BEFORE. UH, AND, AND FOR PRIVACY REASONS, IF, IF A DRONE OR CAN A DRONE BE HACKED TO WHERE POTENTIALLY SOMEONE COULD USE THAT CAMERA SYSTEM OR THAT DATA? UH, WELL, TO DO WHAT THEY WANT. I GUESS IF THEY, IF IT WERE TO BE HACKED, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, OUR DRONES RUN ON A PROPRIETARY SYSTEM CREATED BY AMAZON ON AMAZON SYSTEMS. UM, I WILL NEVER SAY THAT NOTHING CAN BE HACKED. UM, BUT WE'VE TAKEN EVERY, UM, MEASURE TO ENSURE THAT OUR OPERATIONS ARE CONTAINED, ARE ONLY OPERATED SAFELY BY AMAZON AND APPROVED DRONE MONITORS FROM THE SITE. I APPRECIATE THAT, SAM. THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER. COUNCIL MEMBER BARRIOS. THANK YOU, MAYOR SAM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING IN, UH, SPEAKING TO US. I HAVE A, A FEW QUESTIONS, UM, ON, I'M TRYING TO SOLVE HERE WHAT, WHERE TO START. OKAY. WHAT, WHAT DATE WERE THE CHANGES IMPLEMENTED? I WAS LOOKING FOR THAT. SURE. SO, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, THE INITIAL CHANGE OF THE INCREASE IN FLIGHT ALTITUDE, AVERAGE FLIGHT ALTITUDE WAS FEBRUARY 3RD. AND THEN WE, UH, WORKED THROUGH, UM, THE MIDDLE OF FEBRUARY TO IMPLEMENT THE CHANGES OF OUR OUTBOUND FLIGHTS DIVERTING OVER THE COMMERCIAL AREA THAT OCCURRED, I THINK AROUND FEBRUARY 20TH OR 23RD. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I'M JUST MAKE A NOTE OF THAT. OKAY. UM, WHEN DURING THE, THE ACCIDENT HERE IN RICHARDSON, THEY HIT THE APARTMENTS, YOU SAID YOU NOTIFIED FAA, UM, OBVIOUSLY RFD RESPONDED TO THAT THEN NOTIFIED YOU, LIKE, CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE TIMELINE AND HOW, WHY FAA, DID THEY COME OUT? IS IT ONE OF THOSE INCIDENTS WHERE YOU JUST SUBMIT THE DATA TO THEM AND IT'S, UH, I GUESS THE INVESTIGATION IS DONE LATER. UH, IS NTSB EVER INVOLVED IN THAT, OR IS THAT PURELY A FAA AREA? I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE KIND OF, I GUESS THE CHAIN OF COMMAND AND THE TIMING ON THAT AND HOW THAT WORKS. UM, AND THEN ALONG THAT SAME LINE, ONE OF THE SPEAKERS EARLIER MENTIONED THREE INCIDENTS, I BELIEVE THAT WAS NATIONALLY. UM, AND WE ONLY HAD THE ONE. CAN YOU KIND OF JUST CLARIFY THAT? SURE. UM, COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, AT THE TIME OF THE DRONE, UH, INCIDENT ON FEBRUARY 4TH, UH, INTERNALLY, OUR TEAM WAS NOTIFIED, UH, FROM STX EIGHT THAT AN INCIDENT HAD OCCURRED. UM, AND THAT SITE THEN ACTIVATED, UM, OTHER MEMBERS OF OUR TEAM WHO WERE THEN, UM, EVALUATING WHAT HAD OCCURRED. HOW DID THE DRONE INTERACT, UM, WITH THE BUILDING? WAS ANYONE INJURED? UM, OUR TEAM WAS THEN DEPLOYED TO GO OUT TO WHERE THAT INCIDENT OCCURRED. UM, RICHARDSON FIRE DEPARTMENT WAS ALSO NOT NOTIFIED. UM, I, I BELIEVE THEY WERE NOTIFIED BY SOMEONE AT, [01:05:01] AT THE SITE OR AT WHERE THE INCIDENT OCCURRED. UM, UPON THAT, OUR TEAM WAS OUT TO THE SITE IN 15 MINUTES. UM, THEY WERE, THEY MET THERE WITH RICHARDSON FD, WHO INSPECTED THE DRONE, UM, TO DE DEEM IT SAFE, UM, FOR US TO EVALUATE AND THEN RETRIEVE, UM, OUR TEAM. WHEN THEY ARRIVED, THEY TOOK A SERIES OF PICTURES OF WHAT OCCURRED WITH THE DRONE AS WELL AS THE PROPERTY, UM, TO DOCUMENT THAT FOR OUR FAA REPORT. UM, I CALLED, UH, MR. MAGNER JUST TO NOTIFY HIM, UH, AND FROM TALKING WITH HIM, I BELIEVE HE WAS, HAD ALREADY BEEN NOTIFIED BY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, UM, THAT THIS HAD OCCURRED. UM, THAT INFORMATION IS CATALOGED. WE FILE A REPORT WITH THE FAA THAT NOTES THINGS LIKE THE DATE AND TIME OF THE EVENT, THE DRONE MONITOR, WHO WAS STAFFING THE DRONE AT THE TIME, UM, THE LOCATION, AS WELL AS THE, UH, TELEMETRY INFORMATION ON THE DRONE. SO THAT GETS SUBMITTED TO THE FA TO REVIEW. WE THEN HAVE SUBSEQUENT BRIEFINGS WHERE WE FOLLOW UP, WALK THROUGH WHAT OCCURRED, UM, WHAT WERE THE POTENTIAL CONDITIONS THAT CREATED THE INCIDENT AND CORRECTIVE MEASURES WE ARE TAKING. UM, THE IMMEDIATE CORRECTIVE MEASURE WE TOOK WAS IDENTIFYING THAT, UM, THE LARGE, UM, MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT, UH, CREATED SOME TYPE OF GPS, UH, EITHER JAMMING OR, UM, INTERRUPTION ISSUE. AND SO WE IMMEDIATELY REMOVED MULTIFAMILY UNITS OF THAT SIZE AND SCALE FROM OUR DELIVERY PORTFOLIO AS WE CONTINUE TO ASSESS, UM, HOW, UH, THE DRONE INTERACTS WITH THOSE LARGE STRUCTURES, UM, THAT ENGAGEMENT WILL CONTINUE. UM, BUT IN THAT INSTANCE, MY, UM, FIRST CALL WAS TO MR. MAGNER TO GIVE HIM A HEADS UP AS TO WHAT OCCURRED THAT WE, FOLLOWING UP, I BELIEVE WE SPOKE THE FOLLOWING DAY, AND THEN EARLIER THAT FOLLOWING WEEK, UH, UH, THAT FOLLOWING WEEK, JUST TO PROVIDE HIM ON, ON THOSE UPDATES. UM, YOU ASKED ABOUT THE THREE INCIDENTS THAT OCCURRED. UM, SO THE ONE WE JUST COVERED, UH, WITHIN THE CITY OF RICHARDSON IN TULSA, ARIZONA, UM, WE DID HAVE, UH, TWO DRONES, UM, STRIKE A CRANE, UM, THAT WAS, UM, SITTING, UH, NEARBY A FULFILLMENT CENTER OF SIMILAR SIZE AND SCALE TO THE ONE HERE IN RICHARDSON, TEXAS. UM, THE DRONES WERE RETURNING FROM A CUSTOMER DELIVERY, UH, AND STRUCK THE BOOM PORTION OF THE CRANE. UM, THE CRANE IN QUESTION WAS NOT COMPLIANT WITH OUR FA OR WITH FA REQUIREMENTS FOR CRANES OVER 200 FEET TO OBTAIN A PERMIT THROUGH THE FAS OBSTRUCTION EVALUATION AIRSPACE ANALYSIS. UM, THAT ALLOWS US TO THEN GO IN AND SEE, UH, IF THERE ARE, UH, NOTICE OF AIRMEN OUT THERE THAT WE CAN IDENTIFY, THERE'S A CRANE UP IN THIS AREA. UM, SO WE'RE GONNA PUT A NO-FLY ZONE OVER THAT AREA. UM, OUT OF THAT, UH, FA NOTICE SO THAT OUR DRONES AREN'T OPERATING WHERE A CONFLICT MAY BE. UM, WE HAD TWO DRONES THAT HIT THAT CRANE. UM, WE HAD TULSA FIRE DEPARTMENT RESPOND, UM, UH, TO THOSE WE HAD NO INJURIES REPORTED. UM, THEY DID TREAT THE DRONES BASED ON SOME SMOKE THAT WAS COMING FROM, UH, THE DRONES. UM, HOW WE RESPONDED WAS WE ENHANCED OUR ROOFTOP SURVEYS OF SURROUNDING AREAS FROM OUR FULFILLMENT CENTERS. UM, SO OUR GROUND SURVEILLANCE CREWS AND OUR FLIGHT MONITORS WILL CONDUCT ROOFTOP SCANS, UH, MULTIPLE TIMES A DAY IN THE MORNINGS DURING THE AFTERNOON AND THE EVENING TO DETERMINE IF SOMETHING HAS BEEN PUT UP IN PLACE, UH, NEARBY, UM, WHERE, UM, OUR DRONES MAY BE OPERATING. IF YOU THINK ABOUT LIKE A PLANE TAKING OFF AND LANDING, UH, THE MOST DANGEROUS TIMES FOR FLIGHT ARE THAT TAKEOFF AND LANDING TIMES. UM, SO THOSE PROCEDURES WE'VE IMPLEMENTED, UM, SO THOSE, THOSE ROOFTOP CHECKS ARE HAPPENING FOUR TIMES A DAY OR EVERY THREE HOURS. AND THEN WE'VE ALSO IMPLEMENTED ADDITIONAL PROCEDURES TO MAKE SURE WE ARE CHECKING WITH FA WEB PORTALS DAILY, UM, FOR REGISTERED CRANES IN OUR DELIVERY SERVICE AREA. WHEN A CRANE IS IDENTIFIED, WE WILL IMPLEMENT A NO-FLY ZONE, UM, TO FURTHER DECONFLICT IT FROM THE AIRSPACE. SO THAT'S DYNAMIC, ESPECIALLY IN GROWING AREAS WHERE THERE'S NEW CONSTRUCTION OCCURRING, UM, OR OTHER PROJECTS. AND SO WE, UM, WORKING WITH THE FA DILIGENTLY TO IDENTIFY THOSE AND THEN MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN REACT ARE, SORRY, BEFORE YOU MOVE ON, CAN YOU ADDRESS THE WACO ACCIDENT AS WELL? THAT HAPPENED IN NOVEMBER? MM-HMM. UM, WACO, OUR DRONE CONDUCTED A SAFE CONTINGENT LANDING FOLLOWING A PROPELLER, UM, HITTING A, UM, FIBER OPTIC OR, UH, CABLE, UM, STRUNG, UH, ACROSS THE OPEN AREA WITHIN AN APARTMENT COMPLEX. THE DRONE LANDED SAFELY. WE WERE THEN ABLE TO RETRIEVE THAT. SO COUNCIL MEMBER. OKAY. DID HAVE YOU AMAZON, UH, AND FA COMPLETED YOUR INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATIONS? UH, I MEAN, HAS FA COME TO A CONCLUSION OR WHERE ARE YOU AT? WHERE ARE THEY AT IN THAT PROCESS? SO, COUNCILMEMBER, WE'VE SUBMITTED OUR, UM, INITIAL REPORT. WE ARE CONDUCTING SURVEYS, UH, OF OUR FLIGHT DATA JUST TO DETERMINE HOW OUR DRONE HAD PREVIOUSLY INTERACTED WITH LARGE MULTIFAMILY UNITS. UM, WE'RE ALSO CONDUCTING TESTING OF OUR OWN TO DETERMINE, UM, IF THERE IS GPS INTERFERENCE FROM BUILDINGS OF THOSE SIZE AND SCALE. SO THIS IS ONGOING. WE CONTINUE TO MEET REGULARLY WITH THE FA TO PROVIDE BRIEFINGS, IDENTIFY WHAT OUR FINDINGS ARE, AND SEEK THEIR FEEDBACK. SO [01:10:01] I'M TRYING TO, TO TWO QUESTIONS. I'M JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THE, THE SCOPE OF HOW THIS, THE INTERACTIONS WORK. AND I, THIS WAS WHEN WE FIRST LOOKED AT IT, THIS WAS SOME OF MY QUESTIONING KIND OF UNDER SOME OF MY, I GUESS, QUESTIONS. I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT, UM, THE DRONES THEMSELVES. I KNOW IN A, ON A PLANE, THERE'S A BLACK BOX. IS THERE A BLACK BOX ON A DRONE OR IS IT, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY IT'S BEING CONTROLLED REMOTELY. SO MUCH DATA IS CONSTANTLY BEING SENT BACK AND FORTH, AND THE DATA IS KEPT ON AN EXTERNAL SERVER. IS IT INTERNAL TO THE DEVICE ITSELF? UM, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER. SO WHILE THE DRONE HAS ONBOARD SYSTEMS, WE ARE ABLE TO TRACK ALL THE FLIGHT TELEMETRY AND DATA, UM, SIGNALS THAT THE DRONE IS CAPTURING. WE CAN REVIEW THAT TO DETERMINE WAS THERE AN INTERRUPTION, WHICH WE BELIEVE THERE WAS OF GPS SIGNALING WHEN IT WAS IN PROXIMITY TO THE BUILDING, HENCE WHY THE DRONE STRUCK THE GUTTER OF, UH, THAT MULTI-UNIT DEVELOPMENT. SO WE DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO REVIEW THAT DATA AND IDENTIFY AT WHAT POINT DID WE HAVE A DISRUPTION OR DID WAS THE TELEMETRY WHERE IT WAS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE. SO YOU WERE, YOU SAID THEY, THEY INTERACTED WITH THE BUILDING, OBVIOUSLY THIS WAS A, UH, LIKE TWO OR THREE STORY, I DON'T REMEMBER THE SIZE OF THE APARTMENT COMPLEX, CORRECT? MM-HMM . COMPLEX, UM, COMPLEX. WHAT, HOW IS THAT DIFFERENT THAN, SAY, AN OFFICE BUILDING THAT'S FIVE STORIES OR A HOTEL, UH, LIKE AROUND THE CORNER THAT MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, 10 FLOORS. LIKE, HOW DOES IT HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW IT INTERACTS WITH THAT TYPE OF, UH, MULTI-FAMILY DIFFERENT THAN A HOTEL? YEAH. UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, OUR PRIMARY, UH, CUSTOMER IN THE AREA WHERE WE, UM, MAINLY ARE FOCUSED ON ARE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOMES. SURE. UM, SO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN TO A STATE WHERE WE ARE FULLY DEPLOYED AT ALL COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, UM, BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY ALSO LACK, UM, AMPLE SPACE FOR DEFINED DELIVERY POINTS WHERE WE CAN DESCEND, CONDUCT THE DELIVERY, AND THEN QUICKLY ASCEND. FOR EXAMPLE, WALKING INTO CITY HALL HERE. UM, THE DELIVERY POINT CAN'T BE IN THE PARKING LOT. THAT IS A MOVING AREA. AND EVEN AT THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING, THAT'S A OPEN AREA WALKWAY WHERE PEOPLE ARE COMING AND GOING. SO FOR EXAMPLE, A BUILDING LIKE THIS WOULD BE CHALLENGING FOR US TO DELIVER TO. UM, WE LOOK AT, NOT NECESSARILY THE USE OF THE BUILDING, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE SIZE AND JUST SAYING THAT SIZE PRESENTED AN ISSUE ON FEBRUARY 4TH. AND SO WE ARE ELIMINATING, UM, OUR ABILITY TO DELIVER, UH, TO THOSE TYPES OF BUILDINGS. AND UNTIL WE CAN FURTHER ADDRESS, UM, THIS ISSUE WITH THE FAA. OKAY. UM, I HAVE TWO COMMENTS AND I'M GONNA HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF. UM, ONE, THE, THE, NO, THE, THE MEETING TOMORROW MORNING. UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT, THEN HOPEFULLY AFTER MY COMMENT, YOU COULD KIND OF MAYBE ELABORATE ON TIMELINE, BUT THE FEELING THAT IT'S SO EARLY IN THE MORNING, AND I APPRECIATE YOU, YOUR WILLINGNESS TO, TO STAY OR, YOU KNOW, MEET THE PEOPLE BEFORE HAVING TO FLY OUT OF TOWN, BUT FROM, IT DOES FEEL A LITTLE BIT LIKE A, UM, BRUSH OFF OR MAYBE, AND I HATE TO USE THE TERM SLAP IN THE FACE TO, TO THE PRESIDENTS, IT BEING SO SHORT NOTICE EARLY IN DAY, SHORTENED TIME. I THINK, AND I, I DON'T WANT TO USE THAT DETERMINATION 'CAUSE I FEEL LIKE AT LEAST FROM, I'M GUESSING IT WAS KIND OF A LAST MINUTE, HEY, THIS IS WHAT WE CAN WORK. WE HAVE PREDETERMINED LIGHTS AND THE OTHER BUSINESS YOU HAVE TO MOVE ON TO. BUT I WOULD HOPE THAT IN THE FUTURE THAT YOU DO MORE OF THESE, UM, BECAUSE I, I THINK THAT RESIDENTS, AS WE HEARD THIS EVENING, ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. COUNCIL MEMBER, CAN I RESPOND? PLEASE DO. OKAY. UM, I WAS EXTREMELY HAPPY TO BE HERE THIS EVENING TO MEET, UH, WITH YOU ALL AND TAKE FEEDBACK, UM, AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY. UM, IT WAS REQUESTED THAT WE DO THIS TOMORROW MORNING BY CITY STAFF. I AM HAPPY TO COME BACK FOR AN EVENING MEETING, VIRTUAL MEETING. I THINK I'VE HOPEFULLY SHOWN THIS COUNSEL THAT WHEN ASKED, I AM PRESENT IN PERSON, VIRTUALLY PEOPLE OF MY CELL PHONE NUMBERS, EMAILS. IT IS NOT MEANT TO BE A SLAP IN THE FACE. IT WAS A REQUEST THAT WAS MADE, AND I WAS IN NO POSITION TO SAY NO. I WANTED TO SAY YES AND BE HERE. IF YOU HAVE DATES AND TIMES YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO BE BACK OUT HERE TO MEET IN RESIDENCE DURING NON-WORKING HOURS, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOU ON THAT. OKAY. UM, IF THAT, AND I, I THINK IN THE EVENING, DOWN THE ROAD, OF COURSE, I HAVE A SPECIFIC, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING TO WORK OUT WITH STAFF IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS. YEP. UM, THE, THE LAST COMMENT AROUND THAT SOMEBODY MENTIONED EARLIER IN THE SPEAKERS THAT, UH, BRINGING ENGINEERS OUT, I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WAS ALREADY KIND OF IN MY HEAD AS WELL, IS I THINK NOT JUST YOU FROM A GO RELATIONS SLASH SALES PERSPECTIVE, UM, BUT BRINGING SOME ENGINEERS OUT OR SOMEBODY MAYBE YOU CAN, UM, GIVE SOME, RICHARDSON HAS A, UH, STRONG IS IT BUILT BY ENGINEERS, UM, WITH OUR TECH BACKGROUND IN OUR CITY. AND I THINK THAT WOULD GO A LONG WAY [01:15:01] IN, UM, IN RELATIONS WITH OUR COMMUNITY, UM, TO STAFF EARLIER WAS SAID THAT, UM, OBVIOUSLY IT WAS SOMETHING WE APPROVED AS A COUNCIL, AND THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH WE CAN DO ONCE APPROVED. THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH WE DO DO, ASIDE FROM IT BEING APPROVED. BUT BECAUSE SO MUCH OF IT IS FA UM, MANAGING, UM, AIRSPACE, WHAT CAN WE DO AS A COUNCIL? ONE OF THE SUGGESTIONS WAS LIMITING HOURS. DO WE HAVE THAT ABILITY NOW THAT THAT'S BEEN IMPROVED ZONING WISE? WHAT TOOLS DO WE HAVE THAT IF SAY, WE'RE, RIGHT NOW, I THINK, AT LEAST FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, WE'RE GOING ON GOOD FAITH THAT THIS WILL IMPROVE AND WE'LL CONTINUE COMMUNICATIONS, BUT I LISTEN. YEAH. BUT, UM, WHAT, WHAT OPTIONS DO WE HAVE IF THIS WERE TO GO SOUTH IN SIX MONTHS, IF IT WAS TO GO SOUTH IN SIX MONTHS? YEAH. MEANING WE CONTINUE TO HAVE SAME ISSUES THE, THE FURTHER SOUTH THAN IT IS YEAH. FURTHER SOUTH THAN WHAT IT IS OR THE THINGS DO NOT IMPROVE, UH, BASED ON THESE RECOMMENDATIONS OR BASED ON WHAT THEY'RE, WHAT THEY JUST IMPLEMENTED TWO WEEKS AGO. RIGHT. WELL, CAN I, CAN I ADDRESS THE, THE, YOUR EARLIER COMMENTS? UM, ABSOLUTELY. YOUR LAST STATEMENT IS EXACTLY WHY. WHEN, WHEN WE WERE TALKING WITH SAM ABOUT STRATEGY TO REACH OUT TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND, AND HOW TO DO THAT, WE DID WANNA LEVERAGE, UM, SAM COMING BACK, UH, IN THE FUTURE, BUT WE ALSO WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WAS TIME FOR THESE STRATEGIES TO BE IMPLEMENTED AND REFINED. AND SO IT WAS MY SUGGESTION TO TRY TO LEVERAGE SAM BEING HERE AND HAVING THAT MEETING AND THE NEXT MORNING IT'S AN ADDITIONAL STEP ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT'S, WHAT'S HAPPENING TONIGHT. SO I WANNA MAKE SURE NO ONE'S UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT SAM SCHEDULED A MEETING FOR 9:00 AM SO HE COULD, UH, HAVE A SMALLER CROWD , UM, CORRECT. WITH HIM. YEAH. SO LET ME, LET ME JUST MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S, I THINK WE APPRECIATE THAT CLARIFICATION. OKAY. I APPRECIATE THAT. UH, SAM HAS MADE IT CLEAR WHEN HE MET WITH THE MAYOR AND COUNCILMAN JUSTICE AND I, AS WELL AS, UH, WHEN, WHEN I SPOKE TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT AS SOON AS THESE THINGS HAVE SOME TIME TO, UM, SEE IF THERE ARE IMPROVEMENTS, AND, AND I, WHEN I MET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, I TOLD THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THIS WAS WHAT WE EXPECTED OF AMAZON. THEY'RE GONNA MAKE THE CHANGES, AND THEN THEY'RE GONNA REFINE, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA STUDY IT AGAIN TO SEE IF THE IMPROVEMENTS OCCUR. AND, AND I HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING FROM AMAZON, BUT THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE WILLING TO CONTINUE TO REFINE, REFINE, REFINE. AND SO I REALLY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, THAT IT'S NOT, UM, THERE'S NOT AN IMPRESSION THAT THIS WAS SOMEHOW, UM, SAM'S WAY OF TRYING TO GET, YOU KNOW, GET IN AND OUT WITH A MEETING TOMORROW. IT WAS, BUT MY OPINION WAS ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT WE HAD ASKED HIM TO DO TONIGHT. NOW, HAVING SAID THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE PROVIDED A LAND USE RIGHT, TO AMAZON AND WITH, WITH THAT RIGHT. COME, THAT'S A VESTED RIGHT. UM, YOU, YOU, UM, IF YOU ATTEMPT TO TAKE THAT RIGHT, LIKE ANY, RIGHT, UM, THERE WOULD BE THE POSSIBILITY OF A TAKING CLAIM. AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST TO YOU IF, IF, UM, IF YOU WANNA LEARN MORE ABOUT THE, THE LEGAL CONSEQUENCES OF THAT, THAT WE SCHEDULE A TIME WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY TO COME AND PROVIDE YOU WITH LEGAL COUNSEL REGARDING THAT MM-HMM . UM, THAT, THAT ONCE THE, ONCE THE ZONING CASE PASSED, UM, THE, THE RIGHT WAS, WAS NOW AUTHORIZED AND THE USE WAS, WAS AUTHORIZED, UH, MANY OF THE THINGS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP TONIGHT ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THE PD. THE HOURS MAY BE, BUT ALL THE OTHER FACETS ARE CONTROLLED BY THE FAA, THE ALTITUDE, THE SPEED, UH, ALL THE, THE PATTERNS, ALL THOSE THINGS ARE NOT THINGS THAT ARE IN THE PD. REMEMBER, OUR, OUR ZONING IS A LAND USE CONSIDERATION. IT'S A LAND USE CONSIDERATION. IF THESE DRONES, IF THIS FACILITY WAS LOCATED ACROSS GEORGE BUSH AND PLANO, WE COULD HAVE THE SAME ISSUES WITH THE DRONES THAT WERE DESCRIBED HERE TONIGHT. UM, BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S NOT A FUNCTION OF OUR LOCAL JURISDICTION TO REGULATE THOSE THINGS. THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE JURISDICTION OF THE FAA. AND SO, UM, I WOULD TELL YOU THAT THE, THE USE HAS BEEN AUTHORIZED BY A PRIOR COUNSEL ACTION. IT IS A, IT IS A, UH, IT'S A GIVEN, UM, RIGHT NOW FOR AMAZON TO USE THIS. AND, UM, ANY, UM, ANY ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATION, I WOULD, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE BRING BACK THE CITY ATTORNEY TO HAVE THOSE, UM, DISCUSSIONS WITH YOU AROUND WHAT WOULD CONSTITUTE A TAKING, UH, IN THIS MATTER OR JUST GENERICALLY. THANK YOU, DON. ONE LAST COMMENT, SAM, WHILE I LIVE IN A, I'LL BE HONEST, I HAVEN'T HEARD ONE OF THESE IN MY HOUSE, BUT I LIVE ON A TOTAL OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE CITY, AND I'M NOT IN MY PERSONAL HOME. I DON'T THINK I'VE HAD ANYONE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT I WAS AT, I WAS POLL GRADING DURING AN ELECTION A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, AND I WAS OUT THERE TALKING TO A RESIDENT WHO HAD JUST COME OUT OF THE VOTING BOOTH. AND, UM, I SAW AND HEARD MY, HEARD IT FIRST, IT TOOK ME A, A FEW SECONDS TO LOCATE IT IN THE SKY. UH, BUT I HEARD MY FIRST DRONE FOR THE FIRST TIME, AND THAT WAS PRETTY LOUD. WE KIND OF HAD TO STOP TALKING FOR A SECOND. AND IT DELIVERED A PACKAGE ABOUT, UH, TWO, THREE HOMES OVER FROM WHERE WE WERE LOCATED AT THE, AT THIS CHURCH [01:20:01] WHERE PEOPLE WERE VOTING. UM, IT WAS PRETTY LOUD. I CAN'T IMAGINE HEARING THAT, UH, DAY AFTER DAY. THAT WAS, UM, THAT WAS IMPRESSIVE. THE, THAT'S ALL I HAVE RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU, SAM. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ARFIN. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WELL, THANK YOU, SAM, FOR COMING AND, UH, GIVING US UPDATE ON THIS, YOU KNOW, ISSUE. THIS IS AN EVOLVING TECHNOLOGY, SO, AND, UH, AND I SEE THAT YOU WOULD BE COMING A LOT MORE, HOPEFULLY AND, UH, ADJUSTING A FEW MORE TIMES AND BEFORE WE GET THAT THING CORRECT, AND, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF HAVING THIS THING TO OUR NEIGHBORING CITY AND JUST DEAL WITH THE NOISE, IT'S BETTER TO HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY ON THE TABLE TO DISCUSS HOW WE CAN IMPROVE THE SITUATION. I THINK THAT WAS THE APPROACH THAT WE TOOK. UH, OR I, I SUPPORT IT THIS WAY. UH, SO DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, SO HELP ME UNDERSTAND A FEW THINGS. UH, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I HEARD IS ABOUT THE, THE NOISE IS THE MAIN THING, AND, UH, PRIVACY IS OTHER THINGS. YOU ADDRESS THE PRIVACY, UH, SOMEWHAT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS, IT'S EVERYBODY CONVINCED WHAT YOU SAID, AND BECAUSE TOTALLY THIS IS TOTALLY NEW THINGS, AND MAYBE DOWN THE ROAD, SIX MONTHS, TWO YEARS, THREE YEARS, HOPEFULLY, WE'RE NOT GONNA SEE ANYTHING THAT, YOU KNOW, COME OUT AND IT'S TOTALLY OTHERWISE THAT YOU GUYS COLLECTED SOME DATA AND THAT WAS USED FOR SOMETHING ELSE AND IT GOT LEAKED SOMEWHERE. UH, SO IF YOU CAN SOMEHOW CONVINCE LITTLE MORE, UH, WHEN YOU MEET WITH THE, WITH THE NEIGHBOR NEIGHBORHOODS TO SHOW THEM THAT HOW THE PRIVACY REALLY DOES WORK, MAYBE BRING SOME DEMO OR SOME THINGS, UH, AT, YOU KNOW, JUST SHOW THEM A LITTLE MORE. I THINK BECAUSE THIS IS TOTALLY NEW TECHNOLOGY, I THINK THAT'S WHY IT'S BETTER TO FIRST ESTABLISH, LIKE, YOU KNOW, EARNING THAT TRUST. YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE THINGS, ONCE WE HAVE THAT, THEN THE NEXT GENERATION IS GONNA BE MORE COMFORTABLE. WE ARE GOING TO CHANGE NEW THINGS. SO, UH, DEFINITELY SOMETHING TO BE WORRY ABOUT THE NOISE. UH, AND WHAT HAVE YOU CHECKED THE DISABLE THAT, HOW MANY DISABLE IS LIKE FROM THE GROUND WHEN IT FLIES THE NEIGHBORHOOD? IS THERE ANY WAY YOU COULD MONITOR, CHECK THAT AND VERIFY THAT TO THE NEIGHBOR? THAT, OKAY, WE SAY IT'S YOUR DISHWASHER, BUT, UH, BUT THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS MORE THAN DISHWASHER, OR THIS IS ACTUALLY THE DISHWASHER. BUT I'LL TELL YOU ONE THING. ONCE WE, YOU KNOW, ONCE YOU LEAVE SOME NEIGHBORHOOD, OKAY, FOR EXAMPLE, IN ONE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD THERE, THERE, THERE IS A TRAIN LINE. SO WHEN I MOVED TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD NEW, THEN I COULD HEAR IT FROM LIKE 500 FEET AWAY. AND HE WOKE ME UP EVERY NIGHT. BUT NOW, NOW I'M USED TO IT THAT I DON'T KNOW IF THE TRAIN LINE IS STILL ACTIVE OR NOT. DISHWASHER, WE ARE USED TO THE NOISE. SO SOMETHING NEW, NOISE, NEW, SAME DISABLE COULD BE ANNOYING BECAUSE IT'S DIFFERENT PATTERN. SO, UM, SO IF YOU COULD HAVE SOMEONE ON THE GROUND, CHECK THE NOISE LEVEL FROM NEIGHBORHOOD, MULTIPLE POINTS, SO THEN IF YOU COULD ADJUST YOUR HEIGHT MORE, IF YOU CAN MINIMIZE TOTALLY THE NOISE, THEN YOU COULD EVEN FLY LOWER. UH, IF IT IS, YOU KNOW, TOTALLY NO SOUND. SO SOMETHING THAT I THINK NEED TO BE WORKED ON, UM, WE ARE HERE TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM. WE'RE NOT HERE, I'M NOT HERE EVEN TO STOP EVERYTHING FREEZE, BECAUSE IT'S GONNA EVOLVE REGARDLESS WHETHER I'M HERE OR NOT. THIS TECHNOLOGY WILL BE HERE. SO IF YOU, IF THE GOAL IS TO LOWER THE NOISE SO THAT PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO REALLY LISTEN TO THE NOISE INSTEAD OF SOMETHING, WHAT THEY'RE DOING TODAY IN THEIR HOUSE OR EVEN IN THE BACKYARD. SO CAN YOU SAY A FEW MORE THINGS ABOUT THE NOISE THING, HOW WE CAN TRACK, MONITOR, AND ADJUST? SURE. COUNCIL MEMBER. UM, APPRECIATE THAT FEEDBACK. UM, AGAIN, TO BE VERY CLEAR, OUR, OUR DRONE DOES NOT CARRY ANY SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY, NOR IS THAT INFORMATION SOLD OR SHARED OUTSIDE OF AMAZON. WE TAKE CUSTOMER PRIVACY EXTREMELY SERIOUSLY. THIS DRONE DOES NOT HAVE THE CAPABILITIES OFTEN, UM, SEEN BY A LAW ENFORCEMENT TYPE DRONE. UM, REGARDING SOUND, UM, AGAIN, THE SOUND STUDY THAT, UM, I SHARED WITH YOU ALL BACK IN JUNE, UM, WAS REFLECTIVE OF OUR OPERATIONS AT OUR FULFILLMENT CENTER AND THEN AT, AT A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE, UH, IN ARIZONA THAT WE UTILIZED. UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN CERTAINLY, UH, TAKE AS WE'VE TAKEN FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY. [01:25:01] OUR REVIEW IS HOW WE MIGHT, UH, BEST IDENTIFY WHAT THE SOUND PROFILE IS. UM, I THINK WHAT SOME OF THE THINGS YOU COMMENTED, UM, HOW WE BEST CAPTURE THAT SOUND AMIDST AMBIENT NOISE IN THE COMMUNITY, UM, WHETHER IT'S SIX LANES OF ROADS, UM, AVIATION, TRAFFIC, UM, OTHER SOUNDS IN THE COMMUNITY, UM, I'M HAPPY TO REVIEW THAT WITH OUR TEAM TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO. IS THERE ANY WAY THAT YOU GUYS COULD CHANGE THE SOUND PATTERN INSTEAD OF MAKING SOME BUZZ SOUND, MAKE THE MORE TYPICAL SOUND THAT WE ARE USED TO? IS THAT SOMETHING BEING WORKED ON, OR DO YOU KNOW? SO THAT COUNCIL MEMBER, WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT IMMEDIATELY A HARDWARE CHANGE, UM, THAT WOULD RESULT IN A, UM, A CHANGE OF THE SOUND EMITTED FROM THE DRONE, THE FREQUENCY LEVEL, WHICH THAT IS BEING ADMITTED. I DO UNDERSTAND, BUT FOR THE FUTURE, YOU THINK THAT YOU COULD CHANGE THE, YOU KNOW, PATTERN OF THE SOUND? I MEAN, INITIALLY, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT THE EV USED TO LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY SILENT. IT'S VERY NO SOUND. THERE, IT IS SCARY. HAVING LITTLE SOUND IS ALSO A GOOD THING BECAUSE WHEN THE CAR RUNS THROUGH THE STREET, IF IT IS A SILENT, WE DON'T KNOW, WE CAN'T REALLY PROTECT OURSELVES FROM THAT. SO SIMILAR THING THAT IF YOU COULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, IN THE FUTURE THAT IF, IF THE DRONE COULD HAVE A SOUND THAT WOULD MAKE MORE KNOWN SOUND TYPICAL TO OTHER, IT'LL BLEND WITH THE OTHER SOUND, THEN IT'S NOT GONNA BE NOTICEABLE THAT WHAT'S HAPPENING OUT THERE. UH, BUT FOR NOW I'M TALKING THAT'S THE FUTURE THINGS, BUT THAT NEED TO BE WORKED ON. I KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS WORKED ON TODAY OR NOT, BUT RIGHT NOW, TODAY IS LIKE, WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN LOWER THE SOUND, LOWER THE NOISE, UH, AND THE SIMPLE WAY TO DO IS I SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, GO A LITTLE HIGHER, MORE HIGHER, AND YOU DO HAVE ANOTHER, WHAT, 180 FEET OR 175 FEET THAT YOU COULD GO UP. UH, THAT'S THE LIMIT WITHOUT GOING BACK TO ANYWHERE. SO, SO IF, IF YOU CAN MONITOR YOUR NOISE FROM THE GROUND LEVEL AT DIFFERENT SPOT AND SEE IF THAT'S NOT REALLY SOMETHING VARIABLE, SO YOU HAVE TO GO UP HIGHER. SO I DO UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN YOU GO HIGHER, YOU'RE GONNA BE LIKE, DOING THE WHOLE FLIGHT WOULD BE HIGHER. THE WHOLE, ALL THE FLIGHT WOULD BE HIGHER, AND I THINK IT WOULD BE EASIER TO MANAGE ANYWAY. BUT THEN YOU HAVE TO COME BACK MORE VERTICAL, UH, THAN COMING LIKE AN AN ANGLE. SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU CAN LOOK, THOSE ARE THE OPTION, I THINK PROBABLY OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, THEY WOULD BE HAPPY TO SEE THAT. UH, AND BECAUSE IF THEY GO HIGHER, THEN PRIVACY CONCERN IS GONNA BE LESS ALSO BECAUSE SOMETHING FLYING, FLYING MUCH HIGHER, EVEN THOUGH THERE IS NO CAPABILITY FROM THE DRONE TO MONITOR OR, UH, RECORD THOSE VIDEO, BUT IT'LL BE COMFORT. SOMETHING FLIES OVER YOUR HEAD, I WOULD LOOK AND SAY, YOU KNOW, IS IT LOOKING AT ME? OR, UH, SO SOMETHING TO, I THINK YOU HAVE TO WORK ON THAT, UH, MORE SO DO YOU, YOU THINK THAT'S SOMETHING POSSIBLE OR THAT'S SOMETHING NOT DOABLE? UM, COUNCIL MEMBER, I THINK WITHIN THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY WE DID IMPLEMENT AN INCREASE IN ALTITUDE, UM, TO THEN TEST AND SEE WHAT WAS THE EXPERIENCE THEREAFTER. I THINK THE FEEDBACK WE'VE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITIES, WE DO HAVE SOME MORE WORK TO DO. UM, BUT THAT ALLOWED US TO SEE THAT, UM, THERE WAS SOME IMPACT. EVEN IF IT'S MODEST IMPACT, UH, WE SEE US MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. WE, UM, NEED TO EVALUATE BOTH OUR INBOUND AND OUTBOUND FLIGHTS AND HOW WE SEPARATE THOSE. UM, SO THAT IS SOMETHING WE WILL CONTINUE, UH, TO REVIEW. OKAY. THAT'S, THAT'S GOOD. AND HOW ABOUT, I SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE IS A AERIAL CABLE AND OTHER WIRE IF OUT THERE, LOOKS LIKE THAT DRONE FAILS TO DETECT SOMETIMES. HAVE YOU REQUESTED TO ALL THOSE, YOU KNOW, INFRASTRUCTURE, YOU KNOW, OWNER TO INSTALL SOME DEVICE MORE FREQUENTLY SO THAT IT'LL DETECT, UH, IT'S NOT GONNA BE LIKE A ONE LINE IN THE AIR, IT'S GONNA BE MORE DETECTABLE DEVICE THAT'S GONNA BE ATTACHED TO THE WIRE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER? UM, OUR, UM, THE WORLD MODEL THAT WE BUILD FOR THE SERVICE TERRITORY, UM, INCLUDES, UH, ALL THE THINGS THAT WE MAY, UM, COME INTO CONTACT WITH, NAVIGATE THROUGH, UH, AS WE CONDUCT OUR DRONE DELIVERIES. THAT INCLUDES THINGS LIKE POWER LINES, UM, AND, UH, FIBER OPTIC CABLES. UM, IN THE INSTANCE WHERE A CABLE MAY BE, UM, HUNG, NOT EITHER CORRECTLY OR MAYBE DANGLING OR MAY NOT BE INSTALLED CORRECTLY. UM, WHEN OUR DRONE, LIKE THE WACO INCIDENT COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE, UH, BROUGHT UP, UM, WE DID COME INTO CONTACT, WE DID CONDUCT A SAFE LANDING. WE WERE ABLE THEN TO WORK WITH THE, UM, THE RESIDENTIAL [01:30:01] DEVELOPMENT TO, UM, HAVE THAT REINSTALLED THE FOLLOWING DAY. UM, SO WE MAKE SURE THAT WE MAP THOSE. UH, BUT WE ALSO TRY AND IDENTIFY IF THERE'S AN INSTANCE, UM, WHERE WE HAVE SOMETHING UNFORESEEN WHERE WE CAN EITHER ABORT AND RETURN TO THE FULFILLMENT CENTER OR CONDUCT A SAFE CONTINGENT LANDING TO THEN GO OUT AND RETRIEVE OUR DRONE, IDENTIFY IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE DID NOT CAPTURE SO WE CAN SAFELY INCORPORATE INTO OUR WORLD MODEL. DO YOU DELIVER OTHER CITIES FROM THIS LOCATION? UH, COUNCIL MEMBER? YES. UM, ALL, UH, ELIGIBLE CUSTOMERS WITH AN ELIGIBLE AIRSPACE FROM SEVEN AND A HALF MILES FROM THE SITE. SEVEN AND A HALF MILES? YES. SO IF THIS DRONE, HOW FAR THIS DRONE CAN ACTUALLY GO SAFELY? SEVEN AND HALF COUNCIL MEMBER, YOU DO THE SEVEN AND A HALF, WHAT YOU, IT HAS MORE CAP COUNCIL MEMBER. OUR DRONE TYPICALLY WILL RETURN TO STATION WITH A 60 TO 70% BATTERY CHARGE. UM, SO THAT IN THE EVENT THERE IS, UH, AN ISSUE OR WHETHER THAT POPS UP, WE DO HAVE PLENTY OF BATTERY TO RETURN SAFELY. UM, FEASIBLY THE DRONE COULD FLY FARTHER. CURRENTLY THE DRONE FLIES UP TO SEVEN AND A HALF MILES. OKAY, THAT'S GOOD. AND DO YOU HAVE ANY STATISTICS THAT TYPES OF ITEM THAT YOU DELIVER FROM THE DRONE? UH, MAJORITY OF THE ITEM IS WHAT TYPE? ANY IDEA? UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, WITHIN, UH, BUILDING LIKE STX EIGHT AS WELL AS OUR LARGE, UM, MULTIMILLION SQUARE FEET FULFILLMENT CENTERS, UM, THOSE TYPICALLY CARRY, WELL, UM, STXA CARRIES BETWEEN A HUNDRED TO 150,000 OF THE MOST REGULARLY ORDERED ITEMS. UM, OUR LARGER FULFILLMENT CENTERS CARRY OVER 20 MILLION ITEMS. UM, THESE SITES CAN CARRY ROUGHLY, OR THESE SITES HAVE, UH, INVENTORY, ROUGHLY 60% OF THAT CAN BE CARRIED BY THE DRONE. THAT INCLUDES THINGS THAT ARE, WOULD BE LABELED THE DANGEROUS GOOD. WHEN YOU HEAR THAT, IT SOUNDS BAD, BUT IT'S JUST THINGS WITH A LITHIUM ION BATTERY, LIKE AN IPAD, AIRPODS, UH, THAT SOMEONE MIGHT ORDER. UM, SO IT CAN CARRY A VARIETY OF ITEMS SAFELY. OKAY. I, UH, OKAY. ONE LAST QUESTION. THE ROUTE, SO DO YOU HAVE ANY DEFINED ROUTE THAT, HOW THE, I SEE THAT YOU ARE, YOU, YOU EXPLAINED THAT SOMETHING ABOUT THAT, UH, HOW YOU ADJUSTED, BUT HOW DOES OVERALL ROUTE WORKS? I MEAN SURE. COUNCIL MEMBER, SO FROM THE PADDOCK HERE IN THE YELLOW RECTANGLE, WE PLOT UP TO THREE DELIVERY POINTS TO EACH, UH, CUSTOMER'S RESIDENCE. THAT MEANS THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF FLIGHT PLANS THAT ORIGINATED STX EIGHT THAT THEN GO OUT, UM, TO, UH, CUSTOMERS. SO UNLIKE A, UM, A, YOU KNOW, AN AIRPORT THAT HAS DEFINED APPROACHES FOR A SPECIFIC RUNWAY, UM, THE COMMERCIAL DRONES OPERATE DIFFERENTLY AND WE ARE TAKING THE MOST DIRECT ROUTE TO THE CUSTOMER, ALBEIT OPERATING AROUND THINGS LIKE THE NO FLY ZONE, UM, TO GET THERE. AND THAT ALLOWS US TO DECONFLICT OUR DRONES, UM, AS MUCH AS WE CAN FROM ONE ANOTHER AS WE ARE TRANSITING TO AND FROM THE CUSTOMER. AND SO WITH THAT ROUTING AND SOME OF THE CHANGES WE'VE IMPLEMENTED WAS TO, UM, WHAT WE SAW WAS OUR DRONES WERE DEPARTING NORTHBOUND OVER THE WOOD CREEK CHURCH, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, AND, UM, THEN TURNING TO EITHER GO, UH, WEST TO GO NORTH OR NORTHEAST, WHAT WE HAVE FOCUSED ON IS LEVERAGING, UH, THE SPACE AWAY FROM THE RESIDENTIAL AREA, BEING IN THIS COMMERCIAL AREA TO ALLOW OUR DRONES TO GET TO EVEN HIGHER ALTITUDE BEFORE THEY WOULD THEN ENTER THE COMMUNITY. SO WE'VE ADDRESSED THE, WE'VE TRIED TO ADDRESS THE ROUTING, UM, UH, SO THAT WE ARE GETTING OUR DRONES UP AS HIGH AS WE CAN BEFORE WE START TRANSITING OVER A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. SO IF THERE IS ANOTHER DRONE OPERATOR RIGHT ACROSS FROM OUR CITY PLAN, HOW WOULD YOU WORK WITH THEM AND HOW THAT WOULD IMPACT YOURS? YEAH. UM, COUNCIL MEMBER, SO WE OPERATE AT UTM AND UNMANNED TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. SO EVERY TIME WE GO TO CONDUCT A DRONE DELIVERY, A FLIGHT PLAN IS GETTING LOGGED AND THAT FLIGHT PLAN IS SHARED WITH THE UTM. SO THE OTHER OPERATORS, UH, CAN SEE WHERE WE ARE GOING, THAT UTM IS LOOKING AT WHERE'S PRIME AIR FLYING? AND THEN FOR EXAMPLE, WHOEVER THE OTHER OPERATOR IS WHERE THEY'RE ORIGINATING FROM, THEY'RE LOOKING TO SEE IS THERE A CONFLICT FROM THAT FLIGHT? AND OUR FLIGHT MIGHT BE DELAYED TO ALLOW THAT OPERATOR FLIGHT TO FINISH OR TO, BECAUSE IT WAS LOGGED FIRST TO TAKE PRECEDENT OVER OURS. AND THEN ONCE THEIRS IS COMPLETE, THEN OURS CAN GO. SO, UM, THAT IS THE THING WHERE IT'S LIKE AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL WHERE THERE IS ROUTING AND IDENT IDENTIFICATION OF CONFLICT. SO, UM, THERE IS NOT A MID-AIR COLLISION OF DRONES, UM, THAT IS INFORMATION SHARING. SO, UM, OUR, UM, OTHER OPERATORS WHO ARE IN THE AREA CAN, UM, [01:35:01] SEE WHERE, UM, OUR DELIVERIES ARE ORIGINATING THE FLIGHT PATH THAT WE WILL TAKE. UM, BUT I CAN'T SPEAK TO ANOTHER, UM, UH, COMPANY'S OPERATIONS. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. THANK YOU COUNCIL, COUNCIL MEMBER CORCORAN. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. NOW, SAM, I I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS AND, AND BEFORE I ASK YOU, I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU SORT OF MY SENTIMENT RIGHT NOW. YOU KNOW, I'M NOT HERE TO GRILL YOU OR KIND OF RAKE YOU OVER THE COAL ON ANY OF THIS, BUT YOU KNOW, I, I WILL SAY THAT IF THE JUNE VOTE THAT WE HAD LAST YEAR WERE HELD TODAY, THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO WAY I'D VOTE YES. NOT THAT I KNOW NOW, AND I KNOW THAT HINDSIGHT'S 2020 AND I CAN'T GO BACK IN THE PAST AND CHANGE IT, BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S JUST, IT SEEMS LIKE LATELY I CAN'T GO ANYWHERE WITHOUT SOMEONE COMPLAINING TO ME ABOUT THIS DECISION AND, AND RIGHTFULLY SO. RIGHT? I FEEL LIKE EVERYONE'S BEEN VERY RESPECTFUL GIVEN THE SITUATION THAT THEY'RE IN, AND I DO APPRECIATE ALL THE EFFORT THAT YOU'VE TAKEN AND THE ACCESSIBILITY THAT YOU'VE HAD TO TRY TO MAKE IT BETTER. AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT SPIRIT CONTINUING, BUT I JUST ALSO WANT YOU TO KNOW JUST EMOTIONALLY SORT OF WHERE I AM RIGHT NOW ON THIS. UM, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH THAT SAID, I MEAN, THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE FOR YOU, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT DO YOU AUDIT OR WHAT SORT OF QUALITY CONTROL EXISTS FOR YOUR ACTUAL DRONE OPERATORS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE FLYING THE DRONES AND LAUNCHING THEM AT THE RIGHT ALTITUDES TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE FOLLOWING THE RIGHT FLIGHT PATTERNS, THINGS LIKE THAT. UM, COUNCILMAN, FIRST OF ALL, I APPRECIATE YOUR CANDIDNESS AND PLEASE MM-HMM . DON'T HESITATE TO BE CANDID. I APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK YOU'RE GIVING US AND IF THE VOTE WERE TODAY YOUR SENTIMENT, I APPRECIATE THAT. MM-HMM . SO, UM, THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT. UM, AND AGAIN, AND I KNOW YOU'VE SHARED EMAILS WITH ME FROM CONSTITUENTS, RIGHT? PLEASE CONTINUE TO DO SO. I WILL. UM, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE CONTINUE TO TRACK THAT MM-HMM . GOOD, BAD OR UGLY. UM, REGARDING, UM, THAT, THAT QUALITY ASSURANCE, WE LOOK AT OUR FLIGHT OPERATIONS AS A WHOLE FROM ALL THE SITES THAT WE OPERATE AND ADHERING TO OUR FLIGHT STANDARDS. UM, THOSE GET AUGMENTED, UM, AS WE RECEIVE FEEDBACK, AS WE, UM, NAVIGATE A VARIETY OF GEOGRAPHIES, AS YOU SAW ON THE LIST WHERE FLYING PLACES LIKE ARIZONA, KANSAS CITY, KANSAS, UM, OTHER LOCATIONS WHERE GEOGRAPHIES ARE DIFFERENT, PROXIMITY TO SITES ARE DIFFERENT. UM, AND SO WE AUGMENT, UM, WHERE WE, UM, WHERE WE NEED TO IN ORDER TO SAFELY, UH, CONDUCT THOSE, UM, DELIVERIES THAT CUSTOMERS REQUEST. UM, IN THE CASE OF RICHARDSON, UM, WE TOOK THAT FEEDBACK, UH, THAT INITIATED FROM THE, UM, CURRICULA WOODS NEIGHBORHOOD NORTH OF OUR SITE IMMEDIATELY AND SAID, I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO ABOUT THIS MEETING WITH, UM, THE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE, UM, DON AND CHARLES. UH, WE CAME IN AND SAID, HERE ARE THE THINGS WE BELIEVE WE CAN IMPLEMENT, UM, TO ENHANCE THE CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE. MM-HMM . THERE'S DEFINITELY MORE TO BE DONE. UM, SO I WILL SAY WE LOOK AT EACH SITE WITH, UH, A UNIVERSAL SET OF STANDARDS TO WHICH WE OPERATE, UH, BUT THEN WE LOOK AT, OKAY, WHAT ARE, UM, UH, THE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO BE A BETTER STEWARD MM-HMM . AND I THINK WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT. ME BEING HERE IS TAKING THAT FEEDBACK TO IDENTIFY ARE THERE ADDITIONAL CHANGES, UH, WE NEED TO EVALUATE FOR SDXA? I THINK, YOU KNOW, REALLY SORT OF THE, THE LEVEL OF DETAIL THAT I'M LOOKING FOR. AND IF WE, WHEN WE INTERACT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, THAT I LIKE TO SEE IS, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, DO YOU HAVE A DEDICATED INTERNAL AUDIT TEAM THAT PULLS YOUR OPERATOR'S LOGS AND DOES A RANDOM SAMPLE JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE FOLLOWING EVERYTHING THAT YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO ADHERE TO, RIGHT? MM-HMM . THAT'S, AND I GUESS WITHOUT GETTING INTO THE PROPRIETARY LEVEL OF DETAIL THAT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, MAY, MAY REDUCE Y'ALL'S COMPETITIVENESS IN THE MARKETPLACE OR WHATEVER THAT IS, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT AND IT WOULD GIVE ME A LOT OF COMFORT IS KNOWING THAT YOU HAD SORT OF AN INTERNAL AUDIT PROCESS IN PLACE, AND AT LEAST HAVING SORT OF THE BROAD OUTLINES OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. UM, SO I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S NOT REALLY A QUESTION, THAT WAS JUST A STATEMENT, BUT IF YOU WANT SAY SOMETHING COUNCIL MEMBER, I'M HAPPY TO RESPOND TO IT. I THINK, UM, I THINK TWO THINGS. WE DO HAVE A CHIEF PILOT AND AN OPERATIONS TEAM MM-HMM . UM, THAT HAVE TO TRACK THAT, UM, NOT ONLY BECAUSE, UH, AMAZON NEEDS TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION, BUT UH, THERE MAY BE INSTANCES WHERE YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE THAT TO THE FA MM-HMM . SIMILAR WITH PARTS MAINTENANCE, WHEN WE DO MAINTENANCE ON OUR DRONES, THE CHAIN OF CUSTODY OF THOSE PARTS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. OKAY. UM, I THINK ONE THING THAT WE WOULD CERTAINLY LOOK AT IN THE FUTURE TO CREATE THAT OPPORTUNITY WOULD BE TO BRING YOU AND COUNCIL MEMBERS CITY STEP OUT TO THE SITE TO ACTUALLY SEE THE OPERATIONS. THAT'D BE GREAT. TALK WITH MORE PEOPLE ABOUT THAT. WE WANT TO HAVE THIS MEETING FIRST, UH, TO GATHER THIS FEEDBACK, BUT I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD LOOK TO SCHEDULE IN THE FUTURE. YEAH, THAT MAKES SENSE. UM, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER QUESTION THAT I HAD, AND THIS ONE'S A LITTLE MORE OF A SUBJECTIVE ANSWER, BUT I'D LIKE TO, TO HEAR YOUR OPINION IF YOU HAVE ONE. YOU KNOW, I'M, AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS, I WAS DOING ALL KINDS OF GOOGLE SEARCHES ON PONTIAC, MICHIGAN, WACO, SAN ANTONIO, WHERE Y'ALL HAVE BEEN IN OPERATION, AND I CAN'T FIND HARDLY ANY NEWS ARTICLES ABOUT NOISE CONCERNS FROM RESIDENTS, WHICH YOU THINK WOULD BE ENCOURAGING, EXCEPT THAT IN NORTH TEXAS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALREADY BEEN THREE TO FOUR ARTICLES THAT HAVE BEEN WRITTEN ABOUT THIS SITE SPECIFICALLY. SO WHAT DO YOU THINK IS THE DIFFERENCE, IF ANY, BETWEEN THOSE SITES AND THIS SITE [01:40:01] COUNCIL MEMBER? THIS SITE IS UNIQUE IN ITS LOCATION. MM-HMM . THE FACT THAT IT IS A COMMERCIAL OPERATION, UM, AND, UH, THE PROXIMITY TO DENSE RESIDENTIAL MM-HMM . NEARBY SOME OF OUR OTHER SITES, KANSAS CITY, KANSAS IS LOCATED ADJACENT TO MULTIPLE COMMUNITIES. MM-HMM . IF YOU GOOGLE MAP MKC SIX, YOU'LL SEE COMMUNITIES ARE BASICALLY WEST, EAST AND SOUTH. UM, I'VE MET WITH ALL THOSE NEIGHBORS. I'VE BEEN THERE. MM-HMM . UM, THE PERSON WHO USED TO FARM THE LAND, UH, HAS COME TO OUR COMMUNITY MEETING. YEAH. UM, UH, SAN ANTONIO AND WACO ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE INDUSTRIAL. OKAY. THOSE ARE LARGER FULFILLMENT CENTERS, SO THREE AND A HALF MILLION SQUARE FEET, SO TRULY AN INDUSTRIAL SITE. UM, UH, AND THEN AS, UH, PLACES, UM, LIKE PONTIAC, MICHIGAN, RUSKIN, FLORIDA, UM, EVERY COMMUNITY IS DIFFERENT IN TERMS OF MM-HMM . WHAT THEIR, UH, FOCUS WILL BE OR THE REACTION TO THIS. UM, THIS SITE IS UNIQUE BECAUSE IT IS, UM, IT IS A LARGE SITE IN AND OF ITSELF. UH, IT IS IN A COMMERCIAL AREA, BUT THERE'S ALSO RESIDENTIAL MM-HMM . OKAY. SO, AND AGAIN, IN THE SPIRIT OF ME NOT, NOT TRYING TO TRIP YOU UP, NO, BUT LEGITIMATELY CURIOUS. I MEAN, DO YOU GUYS, WITH THE, THE VARIATIONS OF SITES THAT Y'ALL HAVE FOR THIS DELIVERY PROGRAM, I MEAN, WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO, TO SPECIFICALLY CRAFT STRATEGIES FOR RESIDENTIAL VERSUS INDUSTRIAL VERSUS MORE LIKE EXURBAN, ET CETERA, ET CETERA? I MEAN, DO Y'ALL HAVE STRATEGIES YOU MEETINGS ABOUT THAT? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER, I APOLOGIZE. JUST SO YEAH, THANKS. I CAN MAKE EYE CONTACT WITH YOU. BETTER. COURSE. I APPRECIATE IT. UH, , UM, SO, UH, IN MY TITLE, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT POLICY, I OVERSEE HOW WE SITE SEARCH MM-HMM . AND SELECT INVESTMENTS WHERE WE EXPAND THIS OPERATION. UM, WE TAKE INTO ACCOUNT NUMBER OF FACTORS FROM, UH, CAN THIS BE PERMITTED AND APPROVED? IS IT, IT ALLOWED USE? UM, AND YOU KNOW, TO THE POINT YOU MENTIONED, YOU WOULDN'T VOTE AGAIN, VOTE FOR THIS IF IT WAS TODAY. THERE ARE COUNCILS THAT HAVE SAID THERE'S NO WAY WE'RE BRINGING A PROJECT FORWARD. YEAH. AND THAT'S, UM, THAT'S THEIR, THEIR RIGHT TO PROVIDE THAT MM-HMM . AND THEN FOR US TO SAY THIS, THERE'S NOT A PATHWAY THERE. MM-HMM . UM, WE, UM, LOOKED AT OUR OPERATIONS, OUR PROXIMITY, UM, AND BELIEVED THIS TO BE A SITE WHERE WE COULD INVEST, WHICH WE HAVE DONE. MM-HMM . WE WENT THROUGH EVERY PROCESS THAT THE CITY OF RICHARDSON PRESCRIBED, UH, TO SEEK AN APPROVAL. AND IF YOU GUYS HAD VOTED NO, WE WOULD'VE SAID, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND, UM, WE WOULD'VE MOVED ON MM-HMM . UM, SO WE LOOK AT A VARIETY OF FACTORS TO MAKE THE DECISION TO INVEST. UM, AND JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S DRONES OR TRUCKS OR AN INDUSTRIAL SITE, IT'S NOT JUST BRINGING INVESTMENT THERE, IT'S THE SERVICE HALF OF THE SALE, WHICH IS WHY I'M SITTING HERE MM-HMM . AND WHY WE'VE HAD OUR SENIOR LEADERSHIP PRIMARY IN PERSON HERE AND OUR MAKING CHANGES. SO THIS IS THE FIRST, WHAT I WOULD CALL STAGE ONE. UM, YOU KNOW, IT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY THAT I TOOK WHEN I GOT THIS PROJECT IN FRONT OF YOU. UM, AND YOU, YOUR, THE COUNCIL APPROVED IT MM-HMM . UM, THAT WE WOULD BE A GOOD STEWARD THAT WE WOULD COME BACK. UM, THIS SHOULD BE AN INDICATION THAT WE ARE GONNA CONTINUE TO REVIEW HERE FROM THE COMMUNITY, UM, WHETHER IT'S TOMORROW MORNING OR A MORE A COMMENTABLE HOUR, UM, OF ANOTHER DAY WITH MORE MARKETING, UH, AND TAKE THAT FEEDBACK AND GO BACK AND MAKE CHANGES. THIS IS NOT DIFFERENT THAN ANYTHING ELSE WITHIN AMAZON WHERE WE'VE MADE CHANGES BEFORE BASED ON CUSTOMER FEEDBACK. YEAH. NO, I, I CAN APPRECIATE THAT THIS IS PART OF YOUR STRATEGY CORRECT. TO SPECIFICALLY ADDRESS SITES THAT ARE LOCATED LIKE THIS. ALRIGHT. MY, MY VERY LAST QUESTION FOR YOU, JUST, YOU KNOW, WHAT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT YOUR PROCESS OF ALWAYS CHOOSING THE MOST EFFICIENT ROUTE. UM, AND THEN YOU'VE HEARD A LOT OF CONCERNS FROM RESIDENTS ABOUT, HEY, MAYBE THE MOST EFFICIENT ROUTE IS RIGHT OVER MY HOUSE 10 TIMES AN HOUR. I MEAN, WHAT IS, WHAT'S THE DOWNSIDE TO CHOOSING ONE OF THE LESS EFFICIENT ROUTES EVERY SO OFTEN JUST TO COMPLETELY CHANGE IT UP AND, AND CHANGE THOSE WHITE PATTERNS? UH, COUNCIL MEMBER CHOOSING THE LEAST OR A LESSER EFFICIENT ROUTE? UM, I THINK OUR BIGGEST CONCERN WOULD BE SAFETY. OKAY. UM, NAVIGATING, UM, CORRIDORS OR HIGHWAYS OF DRONES. UM, WE CAN COORDINATE ALL DAY LONG, UM, JUST GIVEN THIS HYPOTHETICAL, UM, OTHER OPERATORS, UH, CAMP OR MIGHT NOT FOLLOW WHATEVER COORDINATION WE PRESCRIBE, THE REASON WE TAKE THESE ROUTES AND THAT THEY ARE, UM, LOGGED WITH OUR UNMANNED TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT SYSTEM IS, IT IS THE MOST EFFICIENT ROUTE THAT WE FLY. IT TAKES A NEW ACCOUNT, UM, NO FLY ZONES OR AIRSPACE WE'RE NOT ABLE TO OPERATE. UM, BUT CREATING A UNIQUE ROUTING SYSTEM, UM, TO IMPOSE THAT UNIVERSALLY WITH ALL DRONE OPERATORS, UM, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE FEASIBLE. THAT'S JUST, AND THAT'S AN INTERESTING RESPONSE BECAUSE IT, YOU KNOW, WHAT IT, WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE IS THAT THERE'S NOT MUCH THAT CAN BE DONE ABOUT THE FREQUENCY FOR CERTAIN FLIGHT PATHS. AND THAT'S, I HAVE A FEELING THAT A LOT OF RESIDENTS ARE GONNA FEEL LIKE THAT'S, THAT'S A CHALLENGE. RIGHT. AND SO NOT, AGAIN, I, I KNOW THAT THE RESIDENTIAL [01:45:01] STRATEGY FOR SITES LIKE THIS, LIKE YOU JUST MENTIONED, IS EVOLVING AND CHANGING, BUT, AND I KNOW THERE'S NOT MUCH YOU CAN DO ABOUT OTHER COMPANIES, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I FEEL LIKE THAT IS, IS A CONCERN THAT I HAVE MOVING FORWARD THAT I, I DON'T THINK THAT JUST SAYING, OH, THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT HAVING THE MOST EFFICIENT ROUTE WHERE A DRONE GOES OVER SOMEONE'S HOUSE, THAT A VERY FREQUENT RATE IS, IS REALLY AN ACCEPTABLE ANSWER EVEN WITH SAFETY. I DON'T KNOW. I JUST CAN'T BELIEVE THAT THERE ISN'T SOME WAY AROUND THAT. COUNCIL MAYOR, IF I COULD RESPOND TO THAT. SO, UM, THE UNIQUE SCENARIO, UM, IN THIS LOCATION IS WE ARE NAVIGATING AROUND A NO-FLY ZONE. OF COURSE. UM, AND THAT'S NOT A KNOCK AT THE MAYOR PRO 10, I PROMISE. UM, UH, THAT IS, WE ARE, THIS SITE IS UNIQUE MM-HMM . UM, AND WE ARE WORKING WITH, UM, A NO-FLY ZONE AND A LOCATION THAT'S I THINK 0.72 MILES FROM, UH, THE PADDOCK. SO ALL OF OUR AIRSPACE COORDINATION IS TO SAFELY NAVIGATE AROUND THE SNOW FLY ZONE, JUST AS WE WOULD WITH IF THERE WAS AN AIRPORT NEARBY. UM, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR, UM, SAN ANTONIO FULFILLMENT CENTER RIGHT NEAR MARTINDALE ARMY AIRFIELD MM-HMM . WE GOT A LETTER OF OBJECTION TO THEM. WE WORK ON THEIR AEROSPACE. YOU PROBABLY WOULD EXPECT THERE BE AN ARTICLE. THEY WERE ACTUALLY HAPPY TO SUPPORT US, UM, THROUGH THAT PROCESS. UM, OUR FLIGHT OPERATIONS GOING BE MODIFIED SO MUCH BECAUSE THAT RED CIRCLE. YEAH. AND SO I SEE IF WE MOVE, FOR EXAMPLE, JUST TO HIGHLIGHT AS WE AUGMENT OUR OPERATIONS AND FLY MORE OVER THE COMMERCIAL AREA BEFORE WE START TO TRANSIT NORTH, UM, WE'RE MOVING THINGS THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY FLYING HERE, WHICH HOPEFULLY WE'RE CREATING, UM, A BETTER IMPACT FOR THOSE. YEAH. BUT IT IS MOVING, UM, MAKES SENSE. UH, AND WE ARE AGAIN DOING OUR BEST WITH OUR OPERATIONS TEAM TO IDENTIFY HOW CAN WE SAFELY NAVIGATE AROUND THIS HOSPITAL, YOU KNOW, FLY ZONE. UM, AND THERE WILL BE TRADE-OFFS IN DOING THAT. AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHARED WITH, UM, UM, THE MAYOR, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE DON MM-HMM . AND CHARLES DURING THE MEETING IS THERE CAN BE MOVEMENTS, BUT YOU MIGHT THEN CREATE MORE TRAFFIC OVER ANOTHER AREA THAT SPURS COMMUNITY FEEDBACK. YEAH. WELL, I, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I REALLY DO. I, I TAKE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AT FACE VALUE WITH YOU BEING HERE AND YOU BEING SO ACCESSIBLE TO EVERYONE IS A GENUINE GESTURE, YOU KNOW, OF, OF HOW SERIOUS AMAZON IS OF GETTING THIS RIGHT. UM, AND SO I DO APPRECIATE THAT AND I ALSO APPRECIATE WHAT YOU JUST SAID. I MEAN, THERE'S WITH SORT OF ROUGHLY 20% ISH OF SORT OF THE FLIGHT PATHS TO LAUNCH OUT OF, OUT OF BOUNDS, UM, YOU KNOW, HALF OF IT BY OUR REQUEST AT LEAST I, I CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. STILL, STILL, THAT'S IT. I MEAN, I WOULD CHALLENGE YOU TO AT LEAST FIND WAYS TO MITIGATE THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT ANY OF US HAD IN MIND WHEN THIS WAS FIRST PRESENTED WAS, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY FIGHT A DRONE OVER SOMEONE'S HOUSE EVERY 10 MINUTES IN THE SAME PERSON'S HOUSE. THAT'S ALL. BUT THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOUR FEEDBACK. UH, COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE, UH, THANK YOU MAYOR. MR. BAILEY, I'LL START BY SAYING THANK YOU. I REALLY DO APPRECIATE YOU BEING RESPONSIVE. UM, I PUSHED BACK QUITE HARDLY ON YOU ALL WHEN WE MET. I'M GONNA DO IT A LITTLE BIT TONIGHT AS WELL. UM, I'M SURE YOU EXPECTED NOTHING LESS, BUT I, I WANNA PICK UP WHERE, UH, COUNCILMAN CORCORAN LEFT OFF PART OF WHAT YOU COMMUNICATED TO US IN THE MEETING AND WITH MR, WITH MAYOR OMAR AND MR. MAGNER AND, AND MR. GOFF WAS PART OF THE CONCERN WITH, UM, AND YOU, YOU MENTIONED IT TONIGHT IN SORT OF VEILED TERMS, IT REQUIRES MORE ENERGY OR, YOU KNOW, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. WHAT WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT IS CHANGING FLIGHT ROUTES, UM, MEANS THAT YOU CAN'T GET TO AS MANY HOMES. RIGHT? YOU CAN'T, YOU MIGHT NOT, YOU MAY ONLY BE ABLE TO GO SEVEN MILES INSTEAD OF SEVEN AND A HALF MILES. SO THAT'S MY CONCERN. WE NEED TO BE HONEST WITH THE PUBLIC ABOUT WHAT THAT REALLY MEANS. UM, IT'S AN ECONOMIC IMPACT FOR AMAZON, UM, TO, TO NOT FLY, UH, OVER TELECOM OR TO FLY OVER A ROAD FOR A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME. TONIGHT'S THE FIRST TIME I'VE HEARD THAT IT'S REALLY A SAFETY ISSUE FROM THE FAA. SO IF THAT'S A CHANGE IN RESPONSE FROM WHAT WE HEARD LAST TIME, I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO UNDERSTAND, UH, WHAT THAT CHANGE IS. UH, I GET THERE ARE CARS AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS, AND IF YOU HAD TO MAKE A CONTINGENT LANDING THAT CERTAINLY THERE'S A SAFETY, UH, RISK WITH THAT. BUT WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY COMMUNICATED WITH US WAS THAT REALLY IT WAS A BUSINESS IMPACT, UH, FOR AMAZON. SO DO YOU, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS THE SAFETY COMPONENT OF THAT AND ALSO THE BUSINESS IMPACT THE MORE, UH, ENERGY AS YOU PUT IT EARLIER? SURE. UH, COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE, THANK YOU. UM, REGARDING OVER FLIGHT OF HIGHWAYS, MY COMMENTS WERE RELAYED TO THE FA DOESN'T WANT US FLYING OVER THE HIGHWAY. YEAH. ABOVE CARS AS A ROUTE. THEY DON'T WANT US U UTILIZING THAT. SO IF A DRONE WAS CONDUCTING A SAFE CONTINGENT LANDING [01:50:01] WITH TRAFFIC UNDER IT GOING 75 MILES AN HOUR, MY COMMENTS, I MEANT TO REFERENCE WHERE THE FA DOES NOT WANT US FLYING OVER HIGHWAYS AS A ROUTE THAT WE WOULD FOLLOW, FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE GETTING ON ON RAMP FOLLOWING THAT AND GETTING OFF. UM, REGARDING THE, THE BATTERY SYSTEMS ITSELF. UM, OUR DRONES RETURN AT THE 60 TO 70% CHARGE ROUGHLY AFTER FLIGHT. UM, WE DO THAT SO THAT IF WIND OR OTHER WEATHER WERE TO COME UP THAT WOULD DEMAND MORE ENERGY OUT THE DRONE, WE'RE CREATING THAT KIND OF CALL SIMILAR FOR AIRPLANES LIKE RESERVE FUEL, UM, THAT ALLOWS US TO SAFELY GET BACK IN THE EVENT THE DRONE WERE TO REACH 30%, THE DRONE AUTOMATICALLY WILL CONDUCT A SAFE CONTINGENT LANDING. UM, SO YES, THERE IS A REACHABILITY OF CUSTOMERS, UH, BUT THERE'S ALSO, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO RUN OUR DRONES SO THAT THERE'S A SAFE RESERVE SHOULD THEY ENCOUNTER CHANGES IN THE ENVIRONMENT AS THEY'RE NAVIGATING TO AND FROM THE CUSTOMER. I, I APPRECIATE THAT, AND I'M GLAD THAT THE SAFETY IS BUILT IN. MY CONCERN IS SORT OF THE WAY IN WHICH IT'S BEEN COMMUNICATED TONIGHT THAT REALLY IT'S, UH, THERE'S ONLY SO MANY ROUTES WE CAN DO. ONE OF THE OTHER QUESTIONS I ASKED YOU, UM, AND, AND AGAIN, PUSH BACK ON, WAS THAT, UM, IT WAS DIFFICULT TO PROGRAM THESE DRONES TO GO, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, OVER TELECOM OR OVER BRECKEN RIDGE OR OVER A MAIN ROAD. UM, AND I THINK THE COMMENT I MADE TO YOU WAS, YOU'RE AMAZON AND YOU HAVE SOME OF THE BEST SOFTWARE ENGINEERS IN THE WORLD. THAT'S A LITTLE BIT GOOFY TO ME. UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I WOULD PUSH BACK AND CHALLENGE THAT THERE JUST HAS TO BE A BETTER WAY. IT CAN'T BE THAT THAT YELLOW STRIP IS THE ONLY WAY THAT AMAZON CAN FLY, UM, YOU KNOW, BACK AND FORTH. THAT'S THE MAIN IMPACTED AREA. UM, I GET YOU CAN GO SOUTH AND YOU'RE GOING WEST AS WELL. I, I, I GET IT. BUT TO GET NORTH, THERE HAS TO BE OTHER WAYS THAT AMAZON CAN FLY. AND IT MAY MEAN THAT YOU CAN'T REACH 5,000 HOUSES. THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM FOR ME. , THAT'S A PROBLEM FOR AMAZON. AND, AND SO, YOU KNOW, I JUST AGAIN, WANNA PUSH BACK ON THAT AND SAY, I BELIEVE AMAZON IS BETTER THAN THAT. I THINK THAT YOU, AGAIN, UH, HAVE WAREHOUSES FULL OF ENGINEERS THAT CAN FIGURE THIS OUT. UM, SO JUST REALLY WANNA PUSH BACK ON THAT. UM, 'CAUSE AGAIN, I, I, I FIND THAT DIFFICULT, UH, TO BUY. UM, ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT, IT SOUNDS, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE A DISHWASHER. I THINK WHEN WE MET WITH YOU, IT WAS DESCRIBED AS A TRASH TRUCK. I GET THAT IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS, THAT'S NOT REALLY LOUD, BUT WHEN A TRASH TRUCK DRIVES BY YOUR HOUSE 121 TIMES A DAY, OR, YOU KNOW, 10 TIMES AN HOUR, THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY OBNOXIOUS AND IT DOES IMPACT YOUR QUALITY OF LIFE. UM, AND MY UNDERSTANDING WHEN YOU CAME HERE LAST TIME WAS THAT YOU WERE INITIALLY ASKING FOR 300 FLIGHTS A DAY, BUT UP TO A THOUSAND. WHAT WERE YOU APPROVED FOR? UH, COUNCIL MEMBER. SO THIS SITE ON AVERAGE FLIES BETWEEN 150 TO 250 FLIGHTS PER DAY. THE APPROVAL OF A THOUSAND, THAT IS INCLUDED IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT THAT WE DO AT THE FAA. WE ARE PROVIDING THEM THE ABSOLUTE MAXIMUM, WHICH THIS SITE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO HIT BASED ON IT BEING 10,000 SQUARE FEET AND ONLY HAVING THREE PADS OF ONE TOVER PAD. SO WE WOULDN'T EVEN BE ABLE TO GET EVEN HALFWAY THERE. UM, THE SITE DAILY, UM, AND I JUST LOOKED BEFORE I CAME HERE, AS OF 4:00 PM TODAY, WE HAD DONE 159 FLIGHTS. UM, SO, UH, THE IDEA THAT WE WOULD, WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO CONDUCT A THOUSAND FLIGHTS A DAY FROM STX EIGHT. THERE'S NOT THE CAPACITY, THE SPACE FOR US TO DO THAT, BUT WE INCLUDE IT. SO IT IS A HIGH NUMBER IN OUR ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT, BECAUSE IF WE HAD PROVIDED 250 FLIGHTS, AND THEN WE FLEW 251 FLIGHTS, UM, WE'VE NOW EXCEEDED OUR ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT. YEAH, I MEAN, I GET GOING AND ASKING FOR MORE SO YOU DON'T BUMP UP AGAINST IT AND HAVE TO ASK FOR PERMISSION AGAIN. I GUESS MY CON MY CONCERN IS THOUGH, AS YOU'RE TECHNICALLY APPROVED UP TO THAT, YOU'VE HEARD EVERYTHING FROM ALL THESE NEIGHBORS TONIGHT AND BEFORE NOW. UM, SO MY ASK OF AMAZON, SINCE WE'RE ASKING YOU ALL TO BE GOOD PARTNERS, IS THAT IF YOU WERE EVER GONNA RAMP UP YOUR ACTIVITY, THAT ALL OF THESE ISSUES ARE ADDRESSED FIRST. UM, BECAUSE AGAIN, A TRASH TRUCK GOING BY MY HOUSE 120 TIMES A DAY IS GONNA SORT OF DRIVE ME A LITTLE BIT NUTS. AND SO I, I HAVE GREAT SYMPATHY FOR MY NEIGHBORS. I'VE TRIED IT. I'VE HAD IT DELIVERED TO MY HOME. THE WAY I DISCOVERED THAT IT WAS THERE IS 'CAUSE I COULD HEAR IT OUTSIDE. UM, AND AGAIN, THAT'S WHEN IT'S DESCENDED AND RIGHT IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE, BUT STILL IT'S LOUD. UM, ONE OF THE SAFETY CONCERNS THAT WAS ADDRESSED TONIGHT IS ABOUT BLURRING HOMES. I WANNA THANK YOU FOR FIGURING OUT A BETTER PROCESS FOR FOLKS TO DO THAT. GO BACK TO COMMENT I MADE AT THE MEETING IN JUNE. AGAIN, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY AMAZON AS A DEFAULT COULDN'T BLUR HOMES. AND THEN IF YOU WANT TO ENJOY THIS, UH, SERVICE, YOU WOULD UNBLUR YOUR HOME AND HAVE A DRONE DELIVER THERE. UM, AGAIN, IT, IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT FOR AMAZON TO DO. IT WOULD PROBABLY BE EXPENSIVE, BUT AGAIN, I WOULD PUSH BACK WAREHOUSES OF WONDERFUL ENGINEERS THAT YOU HAVE. WHY CAN'T YOU JUST BLUR HOMES AS A DEFAULT UNLESS YOU WANNA USE THIS SERVICE. UH, COUNCIL MEMBER A, UM, THANK YOU FOR THOSE COMMENTS. UH, REGARDING THE FREQUENCY. UM, [01:55:01] WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO EXPAND OUR OPERATIONS THE SIZE OF THE PADDOCK WITHOUT BEING BACK BEFORE THIS COUNCIL. I THINK I HAVE A PRETTY GOOD READ ON THE VOTE COUNT. UM, UH, SO, UH, WE WOULD NOT ANTICIPATE FOR US TO BE OPERATING OUTSIDE OF THE RANGES THAT WE'VE PROVIDED, UH, BECAUSE OF THE LIMITATIONS WE HAVE IN THE SPACE TO OPERATE. AGAIN, WE CAN'T, BASED ON OUR PDA EXCEED 10,000 SQUARE FEET. I THINK OUR SITE IS 9,800 SQUARE FEET PLUS OR MINUS. UH, BUT UNDER THAT 10,000, YEAH. SORRY, BEFORE YOU MOVE ON TO THE OTHER COMMENT THOUGH, I GET THAT IT WOULD BE HARD FOR YOU TO EXPAND OPERATIONS UP TO A THOUSAND, BUT YOU SAID YOU'RE DOING 150 TODAY OR WHATEVER THE NUMBER WAS. CERTAINLY YOU COULD PROBABLY SCALE TO 300 TODAY OR THREE 50 A DAY. I THINK YOU SAID YOU WOULD BE SURPRISED IF YOU GOT HALFWAY THERE, WHICH WOULD BE 500 FLIGHTS A DAY. SO MY COMMENTS REALLY WERE, AS YOU EXPAND AND GET BETTER AT THIS, THAT ALL OF THESE COMMENTS ARE ADDRESSED BEFORE YOU DO THAT. UH, BECAUSE 500 FLIGHTS A DAY WITHOUT THESE COMMENTS BEING ADDRESSED IS CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO BE BETTER. IT'S GONNA BE A LOT WORSE. UM, SO THAT, THAT WAS REALLY THE SPIRIT. SURE. I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU PROBABLY CAN'T SCALE TO A THOUSAND A DAY, BUT EVEN 200 A DAY OR 250 A DAY IS GONNA BE A, A MASSIVE IMPACT FOR THESE FOLKS. SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THE, THE SPIRIT OF THE COMMENT YES. AND, AND COUNCIL MEMBER, THAT'S WHY WE ARE HERE JANUARY, HERE TONIGHT, GONNA BE HERE TOMORROW, AS YOU HEARD. AND THEN, UH, IN THE NEAR FUTURE TO CONTINUE TO ADDRESS THIS, WE, WE WANT TO MAKE THIS WORK, UH, BECAUSE WE DO SEE THIS IS A SERVICE THAT PEOPLE ARE DEMANDING, AGAIN, OVER 13,000 FLIGHTS. UH, BUT WE HAVE COMMUNITY CONCERNS THAT WE DO WANNA ADDRESS. WE'VE TAKEN A STEP TO ADDRESS THOSE WITH SOME CHANGES. UM, WE WILL IDENTIFY WHAT OTHER CHANGES WE CAN MAKE TO HOPEFULLY REDUCE THE IMPACT AND THE FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY, UM, REGARDING SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT THEY HAVE. SO THAT'S A COMMITMENT THAT WE CONTINUE TO WORK ON. YEAH. AND THEN THE NEXT QUESTION I INTERRUPTED YOU WAS ABOUT BLURRING HOMES. CORRECT. SO, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER IF, UM, JUST LIKE YOU CAN GO ON THROUGH GOOGLE MAPS AND BLUR OUT YOUR HOME IF YOU DON'T WANT IT, UM, SHOWN, UH, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE CUSTOMER CAN, UM, TAKE ACTION TO DO. UM, RIGHT NOW, ANYONE WHO WANTS TO GO ONTO AMAZON, ENTER THEIR ACCOUNT ON AND SECURE A DELIVERY FROM US, WHETHER IT BE BY VEHICLE OR DRONE, THEY CAN OPT INTO THAT SERVICE IF THEY WANT, UM, TO BE PROACTIVE. UM, THEY DON'T HAVE TO SHOP AT AMAZON AT ALL. THEY COULD SHOP AT ANY ANYWHERE ELSE. THEY CAN ALSO TAKE A MORE PROACTIVE NATURE, UM, TO THIS, TO RESTRICT DELIVERIES OCCURRING, UH, AT THEIR HOME BY DRONE THAT THEY WOULD INSTALL THEMSELVES BY REACHING OUT TO AMAZON. I, I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, IS IT POSSIBLE AS A DEFAULT TO JUST BLUR HOMES COUNCIL MEMBER? IT IS. UM, IT IS A POSSIBILITY. TAKE THAT AWAY, PLEASE. I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO, TO HEAR, 'CAUSE I THAT YOU HEARD FROM SEVERAL PEOPLE TONIGHT ABOUT THE PRIVACY CONCERN AND THE SAFETY. UM, IF IT'S NOT A SERVICE I'M USING, UM, TO YOUR POINT, I CAN JUST GO DRIVE TO THE STORE. I DON'T HAVE TO USE AMAZON, BUT YOU, MY PROPERTY IS NOT BLURRED UNLESS I TAKE SOME SORT OF AFFIRMATIVE ACTION TO, TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT A SERVICE I'M USING OR WOULD BE INTERESTED IN USING. SO AGAIN, I WOULD PUSH BACK AND ASK YOU TO TAKE THAT AWAY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT, WHAT IS SOMETHING THAT AMAZON CAN DO TO ADDRESS THOSE WHO HAVE LEGITIMATE PRIVACY CONCERNS, MAY OR MAY NOT BE CUSTOMERS, UH, OF AMAZON TO BEGIN WITH, UM, BUT ARE SHOWING UP IN YOUR SYSTEM ANYWAY. THANK YOU. UM, AND CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT, I THOUGH I APPRECIATE THE DISTINCTION OF THE WACO INCIDENT. IT WAS A CONTINGENT LANDING, IT WASN'T A CRASH. CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM, HOW MANY CONTINGENT LANDINGS THERE HAVE BEEN, UM, UH, UH, AT ALL OF YOUR SITES AND WHAT YOU'RE DOING TO, UH, ADDRESS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER? UM, TO DATE, WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY SAFE CONTINGENT LANDINGS OCCUR IN THE CITY OF RICHARDSON. WE HAD THE DRONE INCIDENT ON THE FOURTH, WHICH, UM, WE ATTEMPTED TO CONDUCT ONE AND THEN THE DRONE OFF THE GROUND, UM, IN OTHER LOCATIONS. UM, WE HAVE HAD SAFE CONTINGENT LANDINGS PREDOMINANTLY DUE TO EITHER AN AIRSPACE CONFLICT OR WEATHER, PRIMARILY IN ARIZONA. I DON'T HAVE A DETAILED LIST OF, UH, ALL THOSE INCIDENTS OF, UH, SITUATIONS THAT OCCURRED WHERE WE'VE TRIGGERED AN SCL, UH, BUT I'M HAPPY TO FOLLOW UP WITH YOU. BUT IN THE CITY OF RICHARDSON, FROM THE SITE, WE HAVE NOT CONDUCTED SAFE CONTINGENT IS THE, WE HAVE NOT HAD TO CONDUCT A SAFE CONTINGENT LANDING. IS THE WACO ONE THE ONLY ONE WHERE IT'S, IT'S COME IN CONTACT WITH SOMETHING AND THEN HAD TO MAKE A CONTINGENT LANDING TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE? UM, IN, IN, IN WACO, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER, YES. UH, THAT WAS SITUATION AGAIN, BECAUSE IT CAME IN TO CONTACT, UM, IT AUTOMATICALLY TRIGGERED A SAFE CONTINGENT LANDING. UH, TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE, HAVE THERE BEEN OTHERS THAT, WHERE THAT HAS BEEN THE INSTANT THE CASE? NOT WHETHER I WOULD, I WOULD HAVE TO FOLLOW UP WITH OUR OKAY. THE COUNCIL MEMBER. I HAVE TO FOLLOW UP WITH OUR FLIGHT TEAM TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THAT. OKAY. I'LL, I'LL ALLOW YOU TO DO THAT. UM, ONE OF THE, THE SPEAKERS ASKED ABOUT A NO, THE NO-FLY ZONE AND WHO REGULATES THAT? MY UNDERSTANDING IS FAA SETS THAT AND YOU DON'T REGULATE IT. WE DON'T REGULATE IT. THE FA REGULATES IT. IS THAT ACCURATE MR. MAGNER OR MR. BAILEY FROM YOUR UNDERSTANDING? YES, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN ADVISED. YEAH. SO IT'S, IT'S NOT SOMETHING, I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S STILL HERE OR NOT, BUT THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT, THAT THE COMPANY REGULATES OR THAT WE GET TO REGULATE THAT IT GETS SET BY THE FAA FOR SAFETY OF, OF THAT FACILITY. [02:00:01] RIGHT. OKAY. UM, THE, THE LAST THING I'LL SAY, UM, YOU'VE SAID A COUPLE OF TIMES TONIGHT, AND I APPRECIATE THE SPIRIT OF IT. UM, THERE'S MORE TO BE DONE. UM, WHEN CAN YOU COMMIT TO GETTING BACK TO US ON WHAT MORE CAN BE DONE IN RESPONSE TO WHAT YOU'VE HEARD? UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS FOLLOWING TOMORROW'S, UM, COMMUNITY MEETING, UM, I'D LIKE TO COME BACK WITH A SUMMARY OF WHAT THE FEEDBACK HAS BEEN. I'VE CAPTURED ALL THE SPEAKERS, UH, WAS TAKING NOTES AS THEY WERE PROVIDING FEEDBACK, AS YOU ALL ARE SPEAKING. I'M CAPTURING THAT. UM, HAPPY TO PROVIDE A SUMMARY BACK TO MAKE SURE WE CAPTURE THAT. UM, I THINK WHAT, UM, WHEN I MET WITH THE MAYOR, YOU, UM, CHARLES AND DON, UM, CAPTURED THAT IDENTIFIED WITH OUR TEAM, WHAT CHANGES CAN WE MAKE ASAP, WHAT CHANGES CAN WE PHASE IN AND THEN EVALUATE? I THINK WE'D WANNA TAKE THE SAME PROCESS, UM, WITH YOU, I THINK THEN YOU COMMITTED TO GETTING BACK TO US WITHIN A COUPLE OF WEEKS. IS THAT POSSIBLE IN THIS INSTANCE AS WELL? BASED ON WHAT WE SUMMARIZE AND IDENTIFY OUR CHANGES THAT WE CAN SAFELY MAKE, WE'RE HAPPY TO EVALUATE GETTING BACK TO YOU, UH, WITHIN TWO WEEKS. THANK YOU MAYOR PROAM. HU WRITER. THANK YOU MAYOR. UM, SAM, THANKS FOR COMING TONIGHT. REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE IT. I WANTED TO, TO GO A LITTLE DEEPER ON THE NO-FLY ZONE. UM, THE, THE NO-FLY ZONE WAS ESTABLISHED OR IS ESTABLISHED BECAUSE, AGAIN, FROM A HOSPITAL PERSPECTIVE, UM, WE HAVE, UH, EMERGENCY HELICOPTERS FLYING IN AND OUT OF THE, THE FACILITY TO DELIVER PATIENTS AND IN SOME CASES, TO TRANSFER OUT. IN ALL OF THOSE CASES, THOSE ARE CRITICAL PATIENTS THAT ARE BEING EITHER BROUGHT IN OR TAKEN OUT. UM, THAT WAS ESTABLISHED BY THE FAA, THAT WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE REQUESTED, NOT SOMETHING THAT THE CITY REQUESTED, NOT SOMETHING THAT AMAZON REQUESTED. UM, SO THAT PURELY WAS AN FAA ACTION. I ALSO WANTED TO SPEAK FOR JUST A MOMENT ON THE NO-FLY ZONE. UM, YOU MENTIONED IT, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS. UM, IN REGARDS TO THE NOTICE, TO THE NOTE NOTAMS, THAT'S NOTICE TO AIRMEN, IF SOMETHING WAS ESTABLISHED BY THE FAA, EVERY CERTIFIED, UM, CRANE OPERATOR, ANYONE WHO'S PUTTING ANY TYPE OF OF EXTENDED POLE, ANYTHING THAT YOU CAN POSSIBLY IMAGINE, IT'S REQUIRED BY THE FAA TO FILE THAT NOTE NOTE TAM, THAT DOES CREATE AN ESSENCE, A TEMPORARY NO FLY ZONE. BUT I WANTED TO MAKE PERFECTLY CLEAR AND COUNCILWOMAN JUSTICE KIND OF, KIND OF HIT IT, BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE IT PERFECTLY CLEAR. NO BUSINESS, NO ENTITY, NO ONE CAN GO OUT AND SAY, OH, WE WANT TO HAVE A NO FLY ZONE OVER OUR BUILDING OR OVER OUR, OUR BUSINESS JUST FOR AN ARBITRARY REASON. THEY CAN BE SOMETHING THAT CAN BE SET UP ON A TEMPORARY BASIS IF YOU HAVE A HAZARD TO ANY AIRCRAFT, UM, WHETHER THAT BE DRONE, UM, IF YOUR CRANE WAS HIGH ENOUGH, IT COULD BE A, A THREAT TO, TO CIVILIAN AIRCRAFT, COMMERCIAL AIRCRAFT, WHATEVER THE CASE MIGHT BE. SO I I, I KINDA LAID IT OUT. I JUST WOULD LIKE YOUR CONCURRENCE THAT THAT IS, THAT IS TRUE ABOUT THE, THE NOTICES TO, TO AIRMEN AND THE, THE NO-FLY ZONES COUNCIL MEMBER THAT THAT IS THE CASE. A AS I MENTIONED, IF WE, UM, CONDUCT AN INSPECTION, FOR EXAMPLE, AS WE CONDUCT THAT ROOF LINE INSPECTION, IF WE DID SEE CONSTRUCTION SITE OPERATING, AND, UH, CRANE OPERATOR TOLD US, HEY, THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT OUR CRANE GOES 200 FEET, CHANCES ARE WHEN WE PUT THAT NO-FLY ZONE IN, WE MAY EXPAND IT TO GO BEYOND 200 FEET, 250, 300 FEET AND CREATE A GREATER RANGE JUST TO ENSURE AGAIN, THAT THAT CRANE OPERATOR WAS CORRECT, BUT ALSO THAT WE CREATE FURTHER SPACE TO DECONFLICT. SO WE MAY REVIEW THAT AND SAY, UM, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE'S ADDITIONAL BUFFER. UM, SIMILARLY, IF YOU HAD, IF BASED ON THE FREQUENCY, EVEN IF YOU WERE FLYING 20 FLIGHTS A DAY INTO THE HOSPITAL OR THREE FLIGHTS A WEEK, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE, TAKING INTO ACCOUNT, UM, YOUR OPERATION APPROACHES, AGAIN, BASED ON YOUR OPERATIONS, THAT MIGHT LOOK DIFFERENT. UM, AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE WORK WITH THE FA TO ESTABLISH THAT ALIGNMENT. UM, SO AGAIN, THAT SEVEN AND A HALF MILE DELIVERY AID IS, WILL NOT BE FULLY SERVED. UM, BUT GOING BACK TO THE CRANE FOR EXAMPLE, THAT'S WHERE WE, UM, WILL INSTALL SOMETHING WHILE THAT'S AN OPERATION. UM, JUST TO ENSURE THAT WE CAN DECONFLICT. YEAH, I I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE UNDERSTOOD THAT, THAT IN THE EVENT OF A CRANE THAT'S PURELY TEMPORARY. IT'S THERE FOR THE TIME THAT THE CRANE'S THERE. ONCE THE CRANE COMES DOWN, THEN THAT, IF YOU WILL, NO FLY ZONE IS, IS ELIMINATED. SO JUST, JUST WANTED TO HAVE THAT, THAT CONVERSATION FOR JUST A MOMENT. UM, ONE THING THAT I DO NOT WANT ANYONE TO, TO, TO, TO MISS IS I'M ACTUALLY VERY, VERY THANKFUL THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO DO AWAY WITH ALL THE KIAS. UM, I TRAVEL ON BRECKENRIDGE, SHILOH, NORTH STAR, ALL OF THAT AREA, AND I FOUND THOSE TO BE A HUGE, HUGE, UM, ISSUE WITH AS MANY OF THEM AS YOU HAD DOING ALL OF THE, WHATEVER YOU CALL THAT SPOT DELIVERY OR WHATEVER, THAT I THINK NOW THE DRONES HAVE TAKEN OVER. SO, UM, I, I THINK, I THINK WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, WHILE I UNDERSTAND PEOPLE ARE, ARE, ARE CONCERNED, UM, ABOUT THE DRONES, I DO THINK WE HAD A, WE'VE HAD A MAJOR POSITIVE STEP BY ELIMINATING ALL OF THE, ALL OF THE, [02:05:01] UM, UM, POLLUTION. UM, THERE'S NOISE WITH THOSE KIOS THERE, THERE WAS, UM, HOWEVER YOU WANNA SAY IT. I DON'T KNOW IF WEARING OUT THE ROADWAY IS A, IS A FAIR TERM, BUT YOU KNOW, SOME AMOUNT OF, OF ROADWAY THAT WAS AFFECTED. AND THEN JUST THE TRAFFIC OVERALL IN THAT AREA, UM, I'VE NOTICED A SUBSTANTIAL POSITIVE BY, BY ELIMINATING THOSE KIAS. SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR GETTING RID OF THEM, UM, IN THAT REGARD. UM, LET'S SEE IF I HAD ANYTHING ELSE I WANTED TO SAY. UM, THE ONLY THING, THE ONLY THING I CAN SAY IS, AND AGAIN, EVERYONE EXPERIENCES THINGS DIFFERENTLY. UM, FRIDAY NIGHT, MY WIFE AND I, I LIVE ABOUT 1.2 MILES FROM YOUR DELIVERY CENTER. UM, THREE DRONES FLEW OVERHEAD. MY WIFE AND I, WE WERE OUT ENJOYING THE EVENING BEFORE THE RAIN CAME. UM, WE COULD STILL TALK, WE COULD STILL HAVE CONVERSATION. NOW THAT WAS IN A, ROUGHLY ABOUT A, I'M GONNA SAY ABOUT AN HOUR-ISH, MAYBE A LITTLE OVER AN HOUR AND A HALF. SO I'M NOT SURE. I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND IF SOMETHING FLIES OVER YOUR HOUSE, HOW MANY EVER TIMES? I'M, I'M STRUGGLING A LITTLE BIT WITH THE NUMBERS THAT I'M HEARING AS FAR AS IF YOU'RE SAYING YOU HAD, I THINK YOU SAID A HUNDRED AND FOR ONE DAY AIR PER TODAY AS A 4:00 PM WE HAD 159 FLIGHTS. OKAY, NOW IT WAS WINDY TODAY. UM, UH, SO THERE COULD BE A VARIETY OF FACTORS. NO, I UNDERSTAND. I JUST, I, I REALLY, I WANNA GO BACK TO WHAT ONE THING THAT WAS SAID IS I REALLY THINK IF THERE IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOME TYPE OF, OF NOISE MON OR I SAY NOISE MONITORING OR SOME TYPE, BECAUSE I, YOU KNOW, NOISE STUDY. A NOISE STUDY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, CURTIS. UM, BECAUSE I, I'M NOT, SOMETHING DOESN'T, SOMETHING'S NOT ADDING UP FOR ME. MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE AND AGAIN, WAS ONE PERSONAL EXPERIENCE. NOW, I'LL ALSO SAY THAT I GOLF EVERY WEEKEND AT CANYON CREEK. DRONES CONSISTENTLY FLY OVER. YOU CAN ASK MY FOURSOME THAT I PLAY WITH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY'RE FLYING OVER, IT'S VERY, VERY SHORT. IT'S VERY, VERY BRIEF. AND IT, TO ME AND TO MY FOURSOME, AND I CAN ONLY SPEAK FOR US, IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE I THINK IT'S BEEN DESCRIBED AS A TRASH TRUCK OR A DISHWASHER OR WHATEVER THE CASE, HOWEVER YOU WANT TO SAY THAT. SO I REALLY WOULD HIGHLY, HIGHLY, HIGHLY ASK IF THERE'S SOME WAY TO HONESTLY DO A A, UM, TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF SENSORS IN AND AROUND, I GUESS I'LL CALL THAT THE YELLOW BLOCK RIGHT NEXT TO THE KNIFE, NO FLY ZONE, TO REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT IS IT THAT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I THINK, I THINK IT'S, I THINK IT'S LIKE ANYTHING ELSE. IF YOU GET A, YOU KNOW, IF YOU GET A RASH ON YOUR HAND, THAT RASH IS GONNA BOTHER YOU FOREVER UNTIL YOU GET RID OF THAT RASH. AND I'M NOT TRYING TO BE, I'M NOT TRYING TO BE DISRESPECTFUL. I'M JUST SIMPLY TRYING TO SAY SOMETHING DOESN'T ADD UP FOR ME BASED ON MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, AND I KNOW WHAT 60, UM, MEGAHERTZ IS WORTH OF WORTH OF SOUND. UM, SO I WOULD HIGHLY, HIGHLY ENCOURAGE IF YOU, IF YOU HAVE SOME TYPE OF, IF YOU COULD DROP, I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S A FAIR AND VALID TEST, BUT A HALF A DOZEN OR A DOZEN OR WHATEVER. SO WE COULD HONESTLY GET THAT, GET THAT NOISE STUDY. I THINK THAT'D BE A HUGE PIECE SO THAT WE COULD HONESTLY KNOW HOW MUCH, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR HOW LONG, YOU KNOW, I THINK, I THINK, I THINK NUMBER OF TIMES INTENSITY, OR I SAY INTENSITY, THAT BEING THE, IF IT'S 60 MEGAHERTZ THAT'S FLYING OVER AND FOR HOW, EXCUSE ME FOR HOW LENGTH OF TIME, HOW, HOW SHORT OF TIME IT FLIES OVER. MM-HMM. UM, SO I, I JUST, I THINK WE NEED TO, I THINK WE NEED MORE DATA. I UNDERSTAND PEOPLE ARE UPSET. I UNDERSTAND PEOPLE ARE BRINGING FORTH THEIR, THEIR OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCES. I CAN ONLY BRING FORTH MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCES THAT I'VE EXPERIENCED, AND I'VE TALKED TO OTHERS. THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE LIKE, OH, THEY REALLY LIKE THE, THE, THE, THE, THE SERVICE. THEY LIKE THE SERVICE NOW. UM, YOU KNOW, SO, SO I THINK I, I WOULD HIGHLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO, TO SEE IF WE COULD DO SOME TYPE OF NOISE STUDY SO WE COULD GET THAT DOWN AND REALLY TAKE A HARD LOOK AT THAT AND REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT IS IN FACT FLYING OVER. BECAUSE THE OTHER THING IS, I'LL TELL YOU, I'M OUT, LIKE I SAID, ABOUT FOUR AND A HALF HOURS OUT ON THE GOLF COURSE, SOUTHWEST AIRLINES PRIVATE AIRCRAFT, UM, UM, OTHER COMMERCIAL AIRCRAFT, A LOT OF NOISE IS FLYING OVER OUR CITY EVERY SINGLE DAY. UM, AND, AND YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T KNOW IF, IF SOMETIMES PEOPLE HEAR THAT AND THEY THINK IT'S THE DRONE, I'M, I'M NOT, I'M NOT, I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO THINK THAT I'M NOT BEING RESPECTFUL OF WHAT THEY'RE SAYING BECAUSE I AM 100%. I JUST WOULD LIKE TO KNOW REAL DATA. AND I FEEL LIKE AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE DON'T HAVE THAT WITHOUT SOME TYPE OF SOLID NOISE STUDY ABOUT WHAT'S OCCURRING, YOU KNOW, SINCE WHAT WE'RE HEARING, MOSTLY FROM WHAT, WHAT I THINK EVERYONE HAS SHARED TONIGHT IS IN THAT, THAT YELLOW, UM, WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL THAT, THE YELLOW BOX. UM, I'D LOVE TO, TO HAVE SOME REAL DATA SO WE REALLY KNOW WHAT, WHAT IS, WHAT IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING. SO I DON'T KNOW. I, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A WAY TO DO THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT AND CONDUCT THAT STUDY, BUT I THINK THAT'D BE HIGHLY IMPORTANT. YEAH. UH, MAYOR PROTE, I APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK. I'D LIKE TO TAKE THAT BACK WITH OUR TEAM AND IDENTIFY WHAT WE CAN DO REGARDING SOUND WHILE THE DRONES IN TRANSIT. [02:10:01] THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SAM. UH, I'M GONNA TAKE A FEW MOMENT FOR A FEW QUESTIONS AND THEN I KNOW WE'VE GOT A COUPLE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO STILL HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. LET ME START, AS OTHERS HAVE, UH, FOR THANKING YOU FOR YOUR ACCESSIBILITY, UH, THE FACT THAT YOU'VE CONTINUED TO ENGAGE, YOU HAVEN'T BEEN AFRAID TO HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS, AND THAT YOU'VE BEEN PRETTY, UH, TIMELY IN TERMS OF BEING RESPONSIVE. SO THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THAT. UM, I, I DO WANNA MAYBE START WITH A POINT OF, WELL, TWO POINTS OF CLARIFICATION. COULD YOU FIRST START BY EXPLAINING WHAT THE YELLOW BOX WAS, JUST SO THERE ISN'T A WHOLE LOT OF CONFUSION THERE? SURE. MAYOR, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. UM, I CREATED THIS BOX. YEP. IT IS NOT AN FAA ZONE OR ANYTHING. WHAT I WANTED TO SHOW WAS THE, UM, AREA OF CONCERN WHERE WE'VE HEARD FROM RESIDENTS, UM, NORTH OF OUR SITE THAT INCLUDED WOOD CREEK CHURCH INTO, UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD NORTH OF THE CHURCH. WHAT I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT IS THIS WAS THE AREA OF THE MOST CONCENTRATED CONCERN THAT WE HEARD. UM, WE DID HAVE A NEIGHBOR EAST OF THE BOX IN CREEK HOLLOW STATES WHO ALSO REACHED OUT DIRECTLY TO ME. UH, BUT I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT AS THE AREA WHERE WE, UH, WHEN WE MET WITH YOU IDENTIFIED THIS IS AN AREA THAT WE WANT TO FOCUS ON ENHANCING THE CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE FOR. SO THAT SHADED AREA, AGAIN, IS JUST AN AREA OF FOCUS PRIMARY, INCLUDING MYSELF, HAS HAD OF HOW CAN WE CHANGE THE EXPERIENCE FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE. YEP. AND A BIG PART OF THE FOCUS FOR THAT YELLOW BOX, AS I RECALL, WAS BECAUSE OF HOW CLOSE IT IS TO YOUR TAKEOFF, UH, POINT THAT OFTENTIMES THAT WAS DURING THE CLIMBING PHASE, AND SO THEREFORE THERE WERE MAYBE A MUCH HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF TIMES WHERE THE DRONES WERE MUCH LOWER THAN WE ANTICIPATED THEM BEING. IS THAT ALSO CORRECT? CORRECT. AND THAT MAYOR, THAT WAS THE ACTION THAT WE TOOK, IS TO REVIEW WHAT WERE THOSE FLIGHT ALTITUDES AND THEN INCREASING THOSE AVERAGE FLIGHT ALTITUDES. SO WE ARE AT THAT 225, UH, FOOT MARK. AND THEN ALSO IDENTIFYING THE ABILITY TO TRANSIT OVER MORE OF THE COMMERCIAL AREA, LESS OF THE RESIDENTIAL AREA BEFORE WE WERE TO TURN NORTH IF THE DRONES WERE GOING NORTH. OKAY. UM, THE OTHER POINT OF CLARIFICATION, UM, REGARDING THE MULTIFAMILY, NOT AS MUCH THE INCIDENT, ALTHOUGH THE INCIDENT OBVIOUSLY BROUGHT MULTIFAMILY UP TO THE TOP OF THE, UH, DISCUSSION. I, I'M CURIOUS, ARE THERE GENERIC AREAS THAT YOU CAN DROP OFF AT A MULTIFAMILY HYPOTHETICALLY? 'CAUSE YOU MENTIONED YOU WOULDN'T WANNA PUT IT NEAR A WALKWAY. WELL, WALKWAYS ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE WHENEVER THERE'S A MULTIFAMILY. RIGHT. AND NOTHING IS NECESSARILY OWNED BY THAT PARTICULAR TENANT. UH, SO IS IT JUST DO SOME MULTI-FAMILIES AND OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY HAVE SPECIFIC DROP OFF AREAS THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR THIS KIND OF THING? MA MAYOR MOST, OR SOME MULTI-FAMILIES WHERE WE DO CONDUCT, WHERE WE HAVE CONDUCTED DELIVERIES IN THE PAST, HAVE A GREENERY THAT IS PART OF THEIR PROPERTY THAT HAS SPACE, UH, FOR US TO BE ABLE TO CONDUCT THE DELIVERY. UM, SO WE ARE LOOKING AT WHERE DOES A MULTIFAMILY UNIT HAVE SPACE WHERE WE CAN SAFELY DESCEND, DROP THE PACKAGE ON THE, THAT PROPERTY AND THEN, UH, RETURN. UM, SO IT MEANS THAT NOT ALL, UM, PROPERTIES, ESPECIALLY MORE DENSE, THAT ARE KIND OF REALLY UP TO THE PROPERTY LINE, UM, WILL BE ELIGIBLE FOR DRONE DELIVERY. OKAY. AND I KNOW YOU'RE, YOU'RE EVALUATING THAT AND YOU'RE LOOKING INTO WHAT THE GPS YES. UH, ELEMENTS AND ALL THAT SORT OF THING. IT'S JUST CONFUSING TO ME BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY IF YOU'RE DROPPING IT AT SOMEONE'S HOME, WELL, THAT'S THEIR PROPERTY, RIGHT? AND SO, YOU KNOW, THE LIKELIHOOD OF A NEIGHBOR WALKING OVER AND TAKING SOMETHING OUT OF YOUR FRONT YARD, IT'S POSSIBLE, BUT IT'S A LOT LESS LIKELY THAN IF IT'S JUST IN A RANDOM GENERAL GREENERY AREA. SO IT WAS JUST SURPRISING TO ME THAT THAT WAS EVEN SOMETHING THAT WAS IN THE CARDS, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE IT WAS, AND RIGHT NOW IT'S UNDER REVIEW A LITTLE BIT MORE. AND MAYOR, WE MAKE NOTICE TO THE CUSTOMER, SO THEY KNOW TO EXPECT THAT TO ARRIVE, UM, SO THAT THEY ARE PLANNING TO BE THERE TO THEN RETRIEVE IT. UM, BUT AGAIN, OUR PRECAUTION WAS TO REMOVE THOSE TYPES OF ADDRESSES WHILE WE CONTINUE TO EVALUATE THIS. OKAY. UM, I'M GONNA TRY AND FOCUS ON, I THINK ONLY TWO ELEMENTS HERE. UM, I THINK YOUR MOVE TO CLIMBING TO HIGHER HEIGHTS HAS BEEN HELPFUL. UH, I KNOW ONE OF THE GENTLEMEN MENTIONED THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, A FEW DECIBELS DIFFERENT, BUT, UH, AND I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THAT EVEN WHEN, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT IT WAY BACK THEN, BUT, UH, THE PERCEPTION MATTERS AND, AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS MATTER. SO I'M, I'M GLAD THAT YOU WENT HIGHER. UH, I ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT THERE'S PROBLEMS WITH GOING TOO MUCH HIGHER THAN THAT BECAUSE YOU NEED TO HAVE SPACE FOR DRONES TO GO ONE WAY AND, UH, UH, INBOUND VERSUS OUTBOUND AND, AND THOSE PATHS. SO I UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT MY FOCUS ON IS ON IS MORE THE CONCENTRATIONS. AND I THINK THAT IF YOU WERE OUT IN YOUR YARD, UH, FOR FOUR HOURS OR HOWEVER LONG A ROUND OF [02:15:01] GOLF TAKES, I, I ASSUME IT'S THREE TO FOUR HOURS DEPENDING ON HOW GOOD YOU ARE. UM, AND YOU ONLY, LET'S SAY, HEARD THE DRONES THREE TIMES. I THINK THAT'S A DRAMATIC DIFFERENCE THAN HEARING THE DRONE OVER THAT THREE HOURS 15 TIMES OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT 20 TIMES. UM, AND SO I THINK THOSE CONCENTRATIONS ARE REALLY WHAT ARE HURTING THE, THE EFFORT THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO PUT OUT THERE. THE BAD NEWS IS THAT THE CONCENTRATIONS ARE WHAT THEY ARE BECAUSE OF WHERE YOU ARE. UM, OBVIOUSLY THE NO-FLY ZONE IS A PART OF IT, BUT ANYTHING THAT YOU WOULD TAKE WEST, SO THAT DELIVERY THAT WENT TO CANYON CREEK AS WELL AS EVERY DELIVERY A LITTLE FURTHER WEST OR FURTHER EAST FROM CANYON CREEK WOULD ALL FLY OVER CROWLEY PARK, BECAUSE THAT'S DIRECTLY TO YOUR EAST, AND SO, I'M SORRY, TO YOUR WEST. SO YOU'RE AUTOMATICALLY GONNA BE FLYING IN THAT DIRECTION. SO THOSE FOLKS WILL SEE THE PREPONDERANCE OF THOSE FLIGHTS THAT ARE GOING OUT THERE. AND THE FOUR TIMES IT GOES TO CANYON CREEK, IT MAY NOT BOTHER CANYON CREEK MUCH, BUT CROWLEY PARK GETS TO SEE ALL OF 'EM. IF YOU'RE GOING EAST, THERE'S ONE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S VERY CLEARLY GONNA SEE EVERY SINGLE BIT OF THE TRAFFIC GOING. EAST NORTH GETS A LITTLE BIT INTERESTING BECAUSE OF SOME OF THESE DIFFERENT ELEMENTS. UM, BUT I THINK WE REALLY, AND, AND I KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE, UM, UH, BROUGHT IT UP. I, I DON'T WANNA REPEAT IT, BUT I DO WANT TO PUT A LITTLE BIT, AS MUCH MORE WEIGHT AS I CAN ON THIS IDEA OF ARE THERE WAYS FOR US TO REDUCE CONCENTRATIONS. UM, THERE WAS A GENTLEMAN WHO SPOKE EARLIER, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT WRITING DOWN HIS NAME. UH, UH, I THINK IT WAS MR. AKAS, UH, WHO, WHO TALKED ABOUT, UH, DISPERSING FLIGHTS BASED ON WHERE THE FLIGHTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN. SO THROUGH YOUR ALGORITHM, IF YOU ALREADY KNOW THAT YOU WENT DIRECTLY EAST OVER THIS BATCH OF HOMES, IS THERE A WAY TO JUST CORRECT, YOU KNOW, ONE DEGREE IN ONE DIRECTION, OR TWO DEGREES IN ONE DIRECTION OR ANOTHER SO THAT THOSE SAME HOMES DON'T GET 10 FLIGHTS IN AN HOUR OR EIGHT FLIGHTS IN AN HOUR, BUT INSTEAD GET THREE AND YOU'RE SPREADING THE WEALTH, SADLY, TO THE SAME NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT AT LEAST NOT OVER THE SAME HOUSE OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN. UM, SO I'D LOVE TO KIND OF SEE AT SOME POINT MM-HMM . AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. THE EXTRA HEIGHT THAT YOU'VE ALREADY PUT IN, PLUS ANY ADDITIONAL THAT YOU CAN WILL OBVIOUSLY HELP BECAUSE YOU WON'T DETECT IT AS MUCH. YOU WON'T HEAR IT AS OFTEN. UM, BUT THOSE ARE THINGS THAT I THINK WOULD MAKE A, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL. THE LAST THING I WANNA, AND THIS IS MORE OF AN ASK THAN IT IS ANYTHING ELSE, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF AN IMPACT THIS HAS ON YOUR BUSINESS, UM, BUT I REALLY WOULD LOVE IT IF YOU CONSIDERED WHETHER OR NOT SHAVING AN HOUR OFF AT THE BEGINNING AND AN HOUR OFF AT THE END OF THE DAY, WOULD SOMEHOW BE SO CRUSHING A BLOW TO THIS PROGRAM TO WHERE IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. BECAUSE FROM A PERCEPTION PERSPECTIVE, ONCE AGAIN, IT, IT JUST SOUNDS A LITTLE BIT INSANE THAT A DRONE IS WAKING YOU UP OR AT LEAST FLYING OVERHEAD AT 7 0 5. UM, I GET THAT THAT'S WHAT YOU GOT APPROVED, BUT IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO DO, I THINK IT'S A GREAT GESTURE OF GOOD FAITH FROM, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE. GREAT. SO MAYOR, I APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK ON THOSE ITEMS AND HAPPY TO TAKE THAT, UM, UNDER ADVISEMENT. I APPRECIATE YOU PROVIDING THAT. SURE, OF COURSE. ALRIGHT, I'LL GO ON TO COUNCIL MEMBER INE. THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. UM, I HAVE JUST A COUPLE OF SUGGESTION. I THINK YOU MENTIONED THAT LOOKS LIKE WHEN YOU WERE SPEAKING WITH THE, THE MAYOR, UH, YOU KNOW, IF YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, HOW IS IT POSSIBLE TO TAKE VERTICALLY OFF INSTEAD OF GOING IN A IN ANGLE? CAN YOU TAKE OFF VERTICAL FROM THE CENTER? UH, COUNCIL MEMBER WE CAN TAKE OFF VERTICALLY. UM, WE, WHEN WE TAKE OFF VERTICALLY, WE ALSO WANT TO, UM, TRANSITION THE DRONE START TO MOVE AWAY FROM THE PADDOCK JUST TO DECONFLICT WITH A DRONE THAT MAY ALSO BE COMING IN AT THE SAME TIME. OKAY, I, I HEAR THAT. SO IF THAT'S THE CASE, I THINK YOU POINTED IT BRIEFLY, THAT POINT. IF YOU HAVE TO TAKE, IF YOU CAN'T TAKE TOTALLY VERTICALLY, IF YOU HAVE TO GO CERTAIN ANGLES, COULD YOU MAKE ALL YOUR TAKE OFF INSTEAD OF GOING TO THE, I BELIEVE NORTHEAST TO THE TOP, RIGHT? MM-HMM . YEAH. SO GO TO, TO THE SOUTH AND THEN MAKE A TURN AND THEN WHEN YOU GO LIKE 225 FEET HIGH, THEN GO OTHER WAY SO THAT THEY DON'T, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE MAIN PROBLEM RIGHT NOW, I THINK IF I UNDERSTAND SO FAR, THAT IS BECAUSE OF THE HEIGHT IS LESS, THAT'S WHY THE NOISE IS TOO MUCH. AND WHEN SOMEBODY ELSE IS SEEING THAT DRONE FLYING OVER AND THEN IT'S NOT MAKING MUCH NOISE BECAUSE THE HEIGHT IS REALLY ACTUALLY 225 FEET. SO IT'S POSSIBLE THAT SOME AREA THAT IS NOT THAT MUCH NOISE, BUT SOME, YOU KNOW, THOSE IMMEDIATE AREA, THEN WHEN YOU TAKE OFF, THAT'S WHEN [02:20:01] THE NOISE IS LIKE, YOU KNOW, LIKE A HUNDRED, 200 FLIGHTS GOING EVERY DAY. HMM. UM, SO IF YOU CAN MAKE LIKE GO TO THE SOUTH AND GO TO THAT HEIGHT AND THEN MAKE, TURN TO THE NORTH AND COUNCIL MEMBER, OUR CURRENT CHANGES THAT WE'VE MADE, UM, ARE STRIVING TO GET TO THAT POINT WHERE WE DO SEE GREATER CONCENTRATION LEVERAGING TRANSITING OVER THE COMMERCIAL AREA BEFORE IT MIGHT GO NORTH OR SOUTH OR EAST. UM, A PORTION OF THOSE FLIGHTS ARE GONNA START, ARE ALREADY, UM, GOING TO THE EAST. WE STILL HAVE SOME THAT ARE HUGGING THE NO FLY ZONE A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO MOVE AWAY FROM THE GREENWAY AREA. SO WE ARE STARTING TO DO SOME OF THAT. I THINK WE'RE EVALUATING WHAT DOES THAT TELEMETRY LOOK LIKE, UM, WHAT ARE WE SEEING FOR ALTITUDES AS WE GET TO VARIOUS POINTS. UM, UH, BUT I THINK THIS GOES BACK TO, UM, SOME OF THE ROUTING CONVERSATIONS WE NEED TO HAVE INTERNALLY, UM, REGARDING HOW WE CONTINUE TO DO THAT TO REDUCE SOME OF THAT, THAT THOSE CONCERNS. I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S IMPORTANT. I WISH, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT MUCH BIG NO FLY ZONE FOR THE HOSPITAL THERE. I MEAN IF THIS WAS OTHER COMMERCIAL AREA AND THERE WAS NO HOSPITAL THERE, THEN IT COULD TAKE OFF THAT ROUTE AND WOULD BE NO ISSUE WITH THE NOISE. BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, GOOD THING THAT WE HAVE THE HOSPITAL THERE BECAUSE NOW WE ARE GETTING SERVICES FROM THE HOSPITAL. SO I'D RATHER TAKE THE NOISE SOMETIMES THAN GIVE UP THE HOSPITAL. SO, SO I'M HAPPY THE HOSPITAL IS THERE, BUT IF YOU CAN ADJUST THE ROUTE, GO HIGHER HEIGHT AND THEN GO WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD, I THINK THAT'S THE TRICKY PART THAT, UH, WOULD HELP. AND ALSO ONE IMPORTANT, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE REASON YOU'RE COMING BACK, NOT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK YOU, YOU LOVE US BECAUSE THE, YOU KNOW, SUCCESS OF THIS AREA IS IMPORTANT. OTHERWISE, NO MATTER HOW MUCH, YOU KNOW, TECHNOLOGY GOES, ADOPTION IS NOT GONNA BE THERE. SO JUST TO GET ADOPTION, WE HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER AND MAKE SURE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IS HAPPY AND WHEN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS HAPPY, THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD WILL BE HAPPY AND WILL BE INVITING YOU, YOU KNOW, HAVING THE DRONE DELIVERY QUICK FIVE MINUTES. IF I HAVE EMERGENCY MEDICINE NEED, THAT'S IMPORTANT TO, YOU KNOW, HAVING THE FUTURE OR NOW. BUT YOU KNOW, ALSO WE DO HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THE RIGHT TECHNOLOGY FOR US THAT WILL HELP US AND GIVE US A BETTER PEACEFUL LIFE. YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE THING IS ABOUT LIKE HAVING A, A PEACEFUL LIFE AND UH, THAT'S THE GOAL. THAT'S WHY WE NEED THESE SERVICES. SO LET'S SEE IF WE CAN DO CERTAIN THINGS AND BLURRING THE HOME, IF IT IS A DEFAULT, THAT'S EASY THINGS TO DO THAT WILL BE VERY HELPFUL. IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO HAVE THEIR HOUSE, NOT BLOOD, THEY CAN JUST GO AND CHANGE THAT, BUT BY DEFAULT IT'LL BE BLURRED. AND THEN, UH, CONCENTRATION WISE, SOMETHING THAT IF YOU CAN WORK, MAYOR SUGGESTED, THAT'S A GREAT SUGGESTION. BUT MAINLY FIRST I THINK THAT TO ME, GOING ANYWHERE YOU CROSS THE NEIGHBORHOOD CROSS LIKE 200 PLUS FEET, NOT AVERAGE 200 FEET, THAT'S KIND OF MISLEADING BECAUSE IF YOU TAKE THE AVERAGE, YOU CAN ADJUST THE AVERAGE, YOU KNOW, STILL, YOU KNOW, BELOW IN THAT AREA. SO THANK YOU FOR WILLING TO WORK TOGETHER. THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER. AND AGAIN, OUR, OUR COMMITMENTS TO CONTINUE THESE CONVERSATIONS TO BE PRESENT. UM, NUMEROUS MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY HAVE MY PERSONAL CELL PHONE, MY EMAIL, UM, WHEN THEY REACH OUT, UM, WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE'RE CAPTURING THAT FEEDBACK, CONVEYING IT BACK TO PRIME CITY STAFF HAS ALL MY INFORMATION THEY'VE SHARED THAT YOU ALL AFFORDED THAT. UM, OUR GOAL IS TO BE A GOOD STEWARD AGAIN, AND I SAID THIS WHEN WE, WHEN WE'RE HERE IN JUNE, WE'VE ALREADY INVESTED HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN THIS SITE. WE EMPLOY PEOPLE, WE HAVE A COMMITMENT TO CONTINUE TO BE GOOD STEWARD. THAT'S WHY I'M HERE. THAT'S WHY WE'LL CONTINUE TO BE PRESENT. SO I APPRECIATE ALL THE FEEDBACK COUNCIL AND STAFF HAVE PROVIDED US AND THE FEEDBACK FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS, UM, ON THIS SO WE CAN IDENTIFY HOW TO AGAIN, UM, ENHANCE THE COMMUNITY EXPERIENCE, TAKE THE FEEDBACK HERE, AND ALSO USE THOSE BEST PRACTICES AT OTHER SITES THAT WE OPERATE. YEAH, I MEAN, ABSOLUTELY. I MEAN, I APPRECIATE INVESTING HEAVILY FOR ON THIS AREA. THIS IS INITIALLY INVESTMENT, THIS SUCCESS WILL HELP YOU IN OTHER THINGS. SO EVEN THIS AREA BECOME NOT PROFITABLE FOR NOW, FOR THE TIME BEING, BUT IN THE FUTURE IT'LL BE PROFITABLE EVERYWHERE. THANK YOU FOR UNDERSTANDING THAT. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER. COUNCIL MEMBER DORIAN. THANK YOU, UH, SAM, IN CLOSING, I JUST WANT TO REITERATE A COMMENT I MADE EARLIER ON ABOUT, UH, WHEN YOU GET TO THE POINT OF TAKING THE NOISE AND DECIMAL STUDY AT DIFFERENT HEIGHTS, I'D, I'D LIKE Y'ALL TO CONSIDER UTILIZING UTD LOCAL AND THEY WOULD, YOU KNOW, BE POTENTIALLY EFFECTIVE TO, TO LEVERAGE THAT, UH, THAT ASSET. AND I THINK EVERYONE HERE TONIGHT, UH, IS AGREES THAT WE NEED A NOISE IN DECIMAL STUDY AT, AT, DEPENDING ON WHAT, AT DIFFERENT HEIGHTS. SO WE GET A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF HOW, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IN THE FUTURE UNTIL TECHNOLOGY CHANGES AND WE HAVE QUIETER [02:25:01] DRONES. THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER. I APPRECIATE THAT. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SAM. UH, WE ARE GONNA MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER [7. PUBLIC HEARING, ZONING FILE ZF 25-22, AND CONSIDER ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF RICHARDSON, TEXAS, AMENDING THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE AND ZONING MAP TO AMEND AND RESTATE ORDINANCE NO. 4255, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT WITH A BASE ZONING DISTRICT OF R-1500-M RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT WITH DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS FOR TRACT “A”, BEING A 40.625 ACRE TRACT OF LAND LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF W. BELT LINE ROAD, BETWEEN DOGWOOD DRIVE AND HOLLY DRIVE, AND TO GRANT A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R-1100-M RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT WITH A BASE ZONING DISTRICT OF R-1100-M RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT WITH DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS FOR TRACT “C”, BEING 0.869 ACRES OF LAND LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF HOLLY DRIVE, BETWEEN DOGWOOD DRIVE AND MIMOSA DRIVE. ] SEVEN, UH, WHICH IS A PUBLIC HEARING ZONING FILE, UH, ZF 25 DASH 22 AND CONSIDER ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE TO GRANT A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R 1100 M RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO PD PLAN DEVELOPMENT WITH A BASE ZONING DISTRICT OF R 1100 M RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT WITH DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, UH, BEING 0.869 ACRES OF LAND LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF HOLLY DRIVE BETWEEN DOGWOOD DRIVE AND MIMOSA DRIVE. MR. MAGNER, UH, THANK YOU MAYOR. UM, I WANT TO, UH, ACKNOWLEDGE OUR DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES IS, UH, TINA FERGUS AND OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, UH, ANDREW BDA, UH, SENIOR PLANNER DEREK PETERS IS GOING TO LEAD THE BRIEFING AND OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF TRANSPORTATION MOBILITY, UH, PREEM DE IS HERE AS WELL, UH, TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING QUEUING. I KNOW THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND HAS A PRESENTATION AND RISD UH, REPRESENTATIVES ARE HERE AS WELL AND WILL UH, BE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. UM, SO DEREK, I'LL TURN OVER TO YOU FOR BRIEF. THANK YOU. THIS IS ZONING FILE 25 22. THIS IS A REQUEST TO AMEND A PD PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT TO ACCOMMODATE THE RECONSTRUCTION OF RICHARDSON NORTH JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL AS IT'S CONVERTED TO A MIDDLE SCHOOL AND OTHER RELATED SITE IMPROVEMENTS. THE THE EXISTING PD PLAN DEVELOPMENT CONSISTS OF TRACK A AND B SHOWN HERE IN THE YELLOW OUTLINE AS PART OF THE PD AMENDMENT, TRACK C WILL BE INCORPORATED INTO THAT PD PLAN DEVELOPMENT TRACK. A, UH, IS OCCUPIED BY RICHARDSON HIGH SCHOOL, RICHARDSON, NORTH JUNIOR HIGH, THE RICHARDSON HIGH SCHOOL BASEBALL FIELD, AND THE MULTIPURPOSE ATHLETIC CENTER, TRACK B SOUTH OF BELTLINE ROAD IS ALSO PART OF THE RISD SCHOOL FACILITIES, INCLUDING TENNIS COURTS AND A PARKING LOT. TRACK B WILL NOT BE IMPACTED BY THIS PD AMENDMENT. IT IS PART OF THE ORIGINAL PD, SO THAT IS WHY WE SHOW THAT HERE. BUT TRACK B WILL NOT BE IMPACTED AS PART OF THE PROJECT AND PART OF THE PD AMENDMENT TRACK C TO THE NORTH WILL BE INCORPORATED INTO THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S AN UNDEVELOPED PROPERTY NORTH OF HOLLY DRIVE THAT IS OWNED BY THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THAT WILL BE DEVELOPED INTO A PARKING LOT TRACKS A AND B OR PD PLAN DEVELOPMENT. AND TRACK C IS ZONED R 1100 M RESIDENTIAL. HERE ARE PHOTOS OF THIS SITE. THIS FIRST PHOTO IS A PHOTO OF THE JUNIOR HIGH TODAY AS SEEN FROM THE INTERSECTION OF MIMOSA AND LAUREL. AND THIS WILL BE THE VIEW, OR FROM THIS VIEW WILL BE THE LOCATION OF THE NEW BASEBALL STADIUM. THE PHOTO ON THE BOTTOM IS A PHOTO OF THE UNDEVELOPED PROPERTY TO THE NORTH OF THE SITE. THERE IS AN ALLEY SEPARATING THIS PROPERTY AND THE ROW OF HOMES THAT SIT BEHIND IT TO THE NORTH AND TO THE WEST. THIS IS A VIEW OF THE EXISTING BASEBALL STADIUM FROM DOGWOOD DRIVE. THIS IS WHERE THE NEW MIDDLE SCHOOL WILL BE CONSTRUCTED. AND THEN AGAIN, ANOTHER VIEW OF THE EXISTING BASEBALL STADIUM FROM THE NORTH. AND THIS WILL BE A VIEW OF THE NEW MIDDLE SCHOOL LOCATION. THIS IS THE PROPOSED CONCEPT PLAN FOR THE OVERALL PD TRACKS, A, B, AND C. AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE SCREEN, WHICH IS WHERE THE NORTH IS ORIENTED, ORIENTED, ALL OF THE SITE IMPROVEMENTS WILL BE CONCENTRATED ON THE NORTH PART OF THE PROPERTY WHERE THE MIDDLE SCHOOL WILL BE LOCATED. SO HERE WE HAVE ZOOMED INTO THE CONCEPT PLAN. THE CURRENT FOOTPRINT OF THE JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL IS SHOWN IN PURPLE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE AND THE NEW FOOTPRINT IS SHOWN ON YELLOW. THE SCHOOL WILL BE EXPANDING FROM 144,000 SQUARE FEET TO 207,000 SQUARE FEET. THE NEW PARKING LOT ON TRACK C WILL BE EQUIPPED WITH 67 PARKING SPACES AND IT HAS ONE DRIVEWAY POINT OF ENTRANCE ONTO HOLLY DRIVE. UH, ON THE MIDDLE SCHOOL PORTION OF THE PROPERTY ITSELF TO THE SOUTH, THERE ARE FOUR DRIVEWAYS AND THOSE ARE SH SHOWN IN THE PINK CIRCLES. THE DUMPSTER AND UTILITY YARD FOR THE NEW SCHOOL BUILDING WILL BE BETWEEN THE SCHOOL BUILDING AND THE BASEBALL FIELD. AND AS IT RELATES TO PHASING, THE NEW MIDDLE SCHOOL WILL BE CONSTRUCTED WHERE THE BASEBALL STADIUM IS TODAY, ALLOWING THE EXISTING JUNIOR HIGH TO REMAIN OPERATIONAL WHILE THE NEW MIDDLE SCHOOL IS BEING CONSTRUCTED. THEN ONCE IT IS CONSTRUCTED, THE JUNIOR HIGH WILL BE RAISED AND THE NEW BASEBALL STADIUM WILL BE BUILT IN ITS PLACE. HERE ARE THE PROPOSED PD STANDARDS THAT PERTAIN JUST TO TRACT A. THESE FIRST TWO ARE RELATED TO BUILDING HEIGHTS. SINCE THIS IS A RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT, THERE ARE LIMITATIONS ON BUILDING HEIGHT. THE CURRENT PD, HOWEVER, DOES ALLOW BUILDING UP TO 50 FEET. THAT WILL BE AMENDED TO BE UP TO 50, UP TO 60 FEET. AND THAT IS BECAUSE A PORTION OF THE NEW MIDDLE SCHOOL WILL BE THREE STORIES. IN ADDITION, WE ARE ACKNOWLEDGING HERE THE THE [02:30:01] BUILDING HEIGHT, RESIDENTIAL PROXIMITY EXCEPTION THAT THEY ARE SEEKING. UM, WE ARE CAPTURING THAT IN THIS PD ORDINANCE. IT WASN'T CAPTURED BEFORE, BUT THE EXISTING JUNIOR HIGH TODAY IS 40 FEET TALL. THERE'S NO REQUIRED PARKING FOR PUBLIC SCHOOLS, BUT AS PART OF THE PED, THEY ARE COMMITTING TO PROVIDING 833 PARKING SPACES ON SITE. THEY'RE ALSO COMMITTING TO, UH, PROVIDING LANDSCAPING ON THE MIDDLE, MIDDLE SCHOOL PORTION OF THE SITE THAT WILL MEET THE COMMERCIAL LANDSCAPE STANDARDS. AND COMMERCIAL LIGHT LIGHTING IS TYPICALLY LIMITED AT 30 FEET TALL, BUT THE BASEBALL FIELD TODAY HAS 75 FOOT TALL LIGHT POLES. AND THE NEW BASEBALL FIELD MAY HAVE A SIMILAR LIGHT POLES OR THEY MAY BE AS TALL AS 80 FEET. NOW GOING TO TRACK C THE PARKING LOT TO THE NORTH OF THE, UH, MAIN SCHOOL SITE. FIRST IS RELATED TO SCREENING. WHEN A NON-RESIDENTIAL USE IS SEPARATED FROM A RESIDENTIAL USE, UH, TYPICALLY A SIX FOOT TALL MASON TREE SCREENING WALL IS REQUIRED. IN LIEU OF THAT, WHAT IS PROPOSED IS A SIX TO 10 FOOT TALL BLACK FENCE BEING EITHER VINYL COATED CHAIN LINK OR ORNAMENTAL WROUGHT IRON STYLE FENCE WILL BE PROVIDED ALONG THE WEST, NORTH AND EAST PROPERTY LINES OF THAT NEW PARKING LOT. AND IN COMBINATION WITH THAT FENCE, A EVERGREEN SHRUBB ROW THAT SHALL ACHIEVE A HEIGHT OF SIX FEET WITHIN TWO YEARS OF PLANTING WILL BE PLANTED ALONG THAT FENCE LINE AS WELL. THEN ON THE OTHER PROPERTY LINES TO THE SOUTH AND EAST IN EVERGREEN, SHRUBB ROW WILL BE PLANTED THAT SHALL ACHIEVE A HEIGHT OF THREE FEET WITHIN TWO YEARS OF PLANTING. IN ADDITION TO THOSE LANDSCAPE MATERIALS, THIS SITE WILL ADHERE TO THE COMMERCIAL LANDSCAPE STANDARDS AND AS I MENTIONED, LIGHTING IS TYPICALLY LIMITED TO 30 FEET TALL. HOWEVER, HERE IN THE PARKING LOT, THE SCHOOL IS INSTEAD COMMITTING TO PROVIDING PARKING LOT LIGHTING THAT IS ONLY 20 FEET TALL. IN ADDITION, THEY WILL PROVIDE A PHOTOMETRIC PLAN WITH THEIR CIVIL PLAN DEVELOPMENT PACKAGE THAT WILL BE REVIEWED BY STAFF, AND STAFF WILL BE ABLE TO REVIEW THE LIGHT FIXTURES TO ENSURE THAT THEY ARE SHIELDED AND DIRECTED TO THE INTERIOR OF THE PARKING LOT AND TO ENSURE THAT THEY MEET OUR PERFORMANCE STANDARDS OF NOT EXCEEDING ONE FOOT CANDLE AT THE PROPERTY LINE. THEN THIS IS THE CONCEPTUAL LANDSCAPE PLAN. THERE WILL BE STREET TREES AROUND THE MIDDLE SCHOOL PORTION OF THIS PROPERTY AS WELL. AND AS WELL AS, UM, LINING THE PARKING LOT TO THE NORTH. THERE WILL BE STREET TREES ALONG THE FRONTAGE AND THEN THE EVERGREEN SHRUBS AROUND THE, UH, SIDES. AS I MENTIONED HERE ARE THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS. THE APPLICANT HAS MUCH BETTER, UH, ILLUSTRATIONS OF THESE TO SHOW YOU TONIGHT. SO THE SCHOOL WILL BE CONVERTING FROM A SEVENTH AND EIGHTH JUNIOR HIGH TO A SIXTH GRADE, A MIDDLE SCHOOL WITH SIXTH, SEVENTH, AND EIGHTH GRADE. THEY WILL BE INCREASING FROM 709 STUDENTS TO 927 STUDENTS WHEN THEY INITIALLY OPEN IN FALL OF 2028. AND THE SCHOOL IS DESIGNED FOR A MAXIMUM BUILD OUT OF 1000 STUDENTS. I'LL MENTION THE HIGH SCHOOL HERE, SINCE IT IS ON THE SAME PROPERTY. THEY, UH, HAVE STUDENTS NINTH TO 12TH GRADE AND THAT ENROLLMENT IS 2,770 STUDENTS. I'LL ALSO MENTION THAT THE ARRIVAL AND DISMISSAL TIMES FOR THE MIDDLE SCHOOL OR THE JUNIOR HIGH AND THE HIGH SCHOOL ARE, UH, ABOUT 40 MINUTES APART FOR ARRIVAL AND DISMISSAL. SO THE TRAFFIC THAT ARE, UH, COMING TO THE SCHOOL AND LEAVING THE SCHOOL DON'T OVERLAP. THEY DON'T INTERACT THAT MUCH SINCE THEY HAVE DIFFERENT DISMISSAL TIMES. SO A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS AND A TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN WAS CREATED. AND THIS IS THE TRAFFIC CIRCULATION PLAN. THE GOAL OF THE PLAN IS TO MAXIMIZE ONSITE QUEUING AND TO REDUCE THE IMPACT TO SURROUNDING PUBLIC STREETS. I WILL SHOW YOU HERE THE NEW, UH, TRAFFIC PATTERN. SO PARENTS WILL ENTER AT THE DRIVEWAY SOUTH OF THE MACK BUILDING ON MIMOSA. THEN THEY'LL PROCEED NORTH PAST THE MACK TO THE WEST, PAST THE NEW MIDDLE SCHOOL NORTH, ALONG THE WEST BUILDING LINE, UH, THE WEST WALL OF THE NEW MIDDLE SCHOOL AND THEN TO THE NORTH WHERE THE NEW PRIMARY ENTRANCE OF THE MIDDLE SCHOOL IS LOCATED, WHERE THE BLUE STAR IS SHOWN HERE. SO THE SCHOOL DIRECTS ALL'S PARENTS DROP OFF THEIR STUDENTS SO THEY CAN ENTER THROUGH THAT PRIMARY ENTRANCE. CARS CAN THEN EXIT DRIVE B ONTO HOLLY DRIVE, WHERE THEY CAN TURN EITHER LEFT OR RIGHT. UM, CARS CAN TURN LEFT OR RIGHT GOING EAST OR WEST ON HOLLY. THIS ALLOWS TRAFFIC TO DISPERSE BACK TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS SHOULD ALSO RELIEVE SOME ISSUES OR SOME KNOWN TRAFFIC CHALLENGES THAT ARE OCCURRING AROUND THIS INTERSECTION OF HOLLY AND MIMOSA TODAY. UH, WITH HOLLY BEING OFFSET AS IT IS TODAY, IT DOESN'T CARRY STRAIGHT THROUGH. UM, AS WELL AS MIMOSA BEING CURVED THE WAY IT IS. THERE'S SOME SITE VISIBILITY CHALLENGES FOR NORTHBOUND AND SOUTHBOUND TRAFFIC OVER HERE THAT A LOT OF THAT SHOULD BE ALLEVIATED BY SHIFTING THE FOCAL POINT OF THE THE MIDDLE [02:35:01] SCHOOL HERE TO THE WEST. UM, ALSO TODAY AT THIS NORTHEAST CORNER THERE ARE TWO DRIVE APPROACHES AND THE ENTRANCE OF THE BUILDING IS ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE. SO SHIFTING ALL OF THAT TO THE WEST SHOULD HELP ISSUES WITH THAT, UH, INTERSECTION THERE. UH, BUSES WILL HAVE A SEPARATE DESIGNATED PATH. THEY'LL FOLLOW THE PURPLE PATH STARTING AT DRIVE C ON HOLLY, THEN THEY WILL DROP OFF STUDENTS AT THE BUS ENTRANCE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE SCHOOL SHOWN ON THE BLUE STAR. THEN THEY WILL PROCEED SOUTH AND EAST AND EXIT ONTO MIMOSA. DRIVE ON, DRIVE ON DRIVEWAY E, DRIVEWAY E AND DRIVEWAY. D ON DOGWOOD WILL BOTH BE TEMPORARILY CLOSED WITH TRAFFIC CONES TO, UH, DETER PARENTS FROM EXITING OR ENTERING THROUGH THOSE, UH, MANAGED DRIVEWAYS. IN TOTAL, THE CIRCULATION PLAN PROVIDES STACKING FOR APPROXIMATELY 90 VEHICLES AND LOOKING FORWARD INTO, UH, WHEN THE SCHOOL INITIALLY OPENS AND TRAFFIC PATTERNS ARE ESTABLISHED AND OBSERVED, THE CITY WILL TAKE A LOOK AT, UH, SCHOOL ZONES IN THE AREA, UM, AND NO PARKING, NO STANDING SIGNS IN THE AREA, UH, PARTICULARLY UP HERE AROUND MAGNOLIA BECAUSE THERE IS A POSSIBILITY AT THAT TIME. ADJUSTMENTS MAY NEED TO BE MADE TO NO PARKING AND NO STOPPING SIGNS AND TO SCHOOL ZONES IN THAT AREA. AGAIN, LOOKING INTO THE FUTURE WHEN THE SCHOOL REACHES FINAL BILL DOWN STUDENT ENROLLMENT, IF IT IS FOUND THAT THERE IS A NEGATIVE IMPACT, UM, A TRAFFIC HAS HA HAVING AN IMPACT SURROUNDING THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESSES OR INTERSECTIONS, THE CITY MAY REQUEST A TRAFFIC STUDY FROM THE APPLICANT AT THAT TIME. ADDITIONAL INTERSECTIONS, INCLUDING ARAPAHOE AT MIMOSA AND MIMOSA AT HOLLY DRIVE COULD BE STUDIED AT THAT TIME. SHOULD ADDITIONAL MITIGATION METHODS BE NEEDED, MEASURES BE NEEDED, THE DIRECTOR OF TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY WITH THE CITY CAN AUTHORIZE THOSE CHANGES. AND THIS FINAL BULLET SAYS THAT RISD SHALL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THOSE ADDITIONAL STUDIES AND MITIGATION MEASURES IF NEEDED. THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL AT THE FEBRUARY 3RD MEETING. AT THAT MEETING, TWO INDIVIDUALS SPOKE IN OPPOSITION OF THE REQUEST AND IN TOTAL STAFF HAS RECEIVED SEVEN WRITTEN STATEMENTS IN OPPOSITION OF THE REQUEST. AND THREE OF THOSE ARE SITTING IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT. AND THE, UH, THE REST OF THOSE ARE IN YOUR PACKET. AND FINALLY, THE CITY COUNCIL MAY APPROVE THE FILE AS PRESENT IN ORDINANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS AS PRESENTED WITH AMENDED CONDITIONS, OR YOU MAY DENY THE REQUEST. THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UH, QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL, COUNCIL MEMBER DORIAN, UH, THANK YOU. I, THIS MIGHT BE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT TO DISCUSS THE LIGHTING SPECIFICATIONS AND SPREAD. IF SO, I'LL DEFER MY QUESTION TO THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER BARRIOS. THANK YOU MAYOR DEREK, A COUPLE QUICK QUESTIONS. FIRST, I DO LIKE THAT YOU MENTIONED THE OFFSET OF HOLLY AND HOW MOVING TO THE SCHOOL TO THE WEST SIDE WHERE THE BASEBALL FIELD IS NOW MAY ALLEVIATE. UH, I KNOW THAT LAST SPRING, UH, SOME MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY BROUGHT A CONCERN WITH SOME OF THE CROSSING THERE. UM, SO TO BE HONEST THAT KIND OF RELIEVES SOME OF SOME OF THAT CONCERN. A COUPLE QUESTIONS. UM, THAT WHERE THE SCHOOL IS NOW IN COMPARISON TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS ALL AROUND IT, A A LOT OF THE WALKING COMES FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE EAST WHERE THERE'S UH, WHERE THERE'S A LOT MORE STUDENTS 'CAUSE THERE'S A LOT MORE HOUSES ON THE EAST SIDE THAN THERE IS THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY OR EVEN THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. ARE THERE ANY PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE CROSS AT HOLLY? ARE THERE ANY PROPOSED CHANGES TO CROSSING AT MIMOSA, UH, THAT IS A PART OF THIS OR ANY DISCUSSIONS AROUND THAT? IF THE ANSWER'S NO, THAT'S FINE TOO. I DON'T EXPECT YOU TO HAVE THAT. THAT'S NOT PART OF, SO A PEDESTRIAN MANAGEMENT PLAN WILL BE REQUIRED TO BE SUBMITTED, UM, BY THE APPLICANT WHEN, UM, PRIOR TO THE, UH, CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY BEING ISSUED. SO THAT'LL BE REVIEWED BY THE TRANSPORTATION MOBILITY DEPARTMENT. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT IS, UH, APPROVED BY THE TRANSPORTATION MOBILITY DEPARTMENT? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT LATER COMES TO US? IT'S APPROVED BY THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT. OKAY, THANK YOU. UM, DID WE, ON SLIDE 12 WHERE IT SHOWS US THE ENTRANCES, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A QUESTION FOR YOU OR THE APPLICANT, SO DIRECT ME, UM, BUT THAT OVERLAP BETWEEN THE BUSES AND THE PARENT ROUTE ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE NEW BASEBALL FIELD. UM, I GUESS I'M JUST KIND OF CONCERNED THERE 'CAUSE YOU'RE HAVING BUSES CROSSING WHERE CARS [02:40:01] ARE. I'M ASSUMING THERE'S NOT MANY BUSES. I I WILL ASK THE APPLICANT THAT LATER HOW MANY BUSES KIND OF LINE UP THERE, BUT I'M ASSUMING AS THEY'RE TRYING TO TURN LEFT TO HEAD EAST OUT OF DRIVE E YOU HAVE CARS TRYING TO HEAD WEST AND THERE'S SOME INTERSECTION. SO I WAS KIND OF CURIOUS IF Y'ALL LOOKED AT THAT AND HAD ANY CONCERNS WITH THAT. IF SO, HOW IS THAT ADDRESSED? AND THEN I'LL ASK THE APPLICANT, AS FAR AS ANY INTERNAL OPERATIONAL STUFF, THEY HAVE TO ADDRESS THOSE. YEAH, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT UP. UM, IF YOU CAN SEE THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF CROSS HASH AT THAT PARTICULAR INTERSECTIONS WHERE THE BUSES WILL BE CROSSING ACROSS. UH, WHAT WE WERE PLANNING ON DOING IS SOME SORT OF MARKING OR PAVEMENT MARKING TO KEEP THAT AREA CLEAR. SO EVEN IF UH, A PARENT IS LINING UP IN A VEHICLE, THAT AREA SHOULD BE KEPT CLEAR SO THAT BUSES CAN EASILY CROSS ON THE OTHER SIDE AND THEN USE THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE ROAD TO LEAVE THE AREA. GOT IT. I SEE THAT NOW. THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT. THAT IS ALL THE QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS I HAVE AT THIS TIME. ALRIGHT, IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF, WE'LL MOVE ON TO UH, SEEING IF THE APPLICANT IS AVAILABLE TO PRESENT THEIR INFORMATION. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JAMES WATSON, 400 SOUTH GREENVILLE AVENUE, 7 5 0 8 1. UH, IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN. I WANNA THANK THE COUNCIL FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION OF THIS CASE TONIGHT. I ALSO WANT TO THANK OUR CITY STAFF, UH, FOR WORKING WITH US FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS NOW DILIGENTLY TO GET US, UH, TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY, UH, TO THE POSITION OR CONDITION THIS CASE IS IN BEFORE YOU. UH, SO THANK YOU TO EVERYONE INVOLVED, UH, TO HELP US GET TO WHERE WE ARE. I AM BEFORE SHOWING ALL THE NICE PRETTY PICTURES, UH, BY OUR ARCHITECT HERE IN JUST A FEW MINUTES. UH, I WOULD LIKE TO BACK UP IF I MAY, AND JUST TALK THROUGH SOME OF THE, AM I GOING THE RIGHT WAY? THE OTHER DIRECTION? OTHER DIRECTION? SORRY ABOUT THAT. I THINK YOU'RE GONNA SEE EVERYTHING BEFORE I'M DONE. WHICH WAY AM I GOING? IS THAT NOT YOUR PRESENTATION HERE? YEAH, BUT I'M TRYING TO GET BACK TO DEREK'S TO DEREK'S PRESENTATION. OH, I'M SORRY. OKAY. THAT'S OKAY. Y'ALL DON'T LOOK WHILE IT'S UP HERE. GIVE IT A MINUTE. WAIT, WAIT. OKAY. OKAY. ALRIGHT, KEEP GOING. YOU RUNNING THE TRAFFIC AGAIN? THERE WE GO. YEAH, YEAH. THANK YOU. SORRY ABOUT THAT. I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF FOCUS HERE FOR JUST A MOMENT, UH, EVEN THOUGH I SPOILED IT A LITTLE BIT, UH, AND TALKED THROUGH A LITTLE BIT OF THE WHYS, UH, OF HOW WE GOT HERE. SO IF YOU RECALL, AND I KNOW THIS IS KIND OF OUR THIRD INSTALLMENT, SO TO SPEAK, OF OUR MIDDLE SCHOOL TRANSFORMATIONS, UH, BOTH APOLLO AND NORTH WERE ADDITION RENOVATION PROJECTS. UH, AND IT HAD SOME UNIQUE PSYCH BENEFITS, UH, THAT THIS DOES NOT ALLOW. UH, CLEARLY THIS SITE IS SHARED WITH A HIGH SCHOOL AND A STADIUM, UH, AND A MAC FOR THAT MATTER OF WHICH THE OTHER TWO, UH, DO NOT SHARE. SO THE OTHER TWO PROGRAMS WERE ABLE TO, WE WERE NOT ONLY ABLE TO BUILD ON ADJACENT AVAILABLE LAND, UH, WE ALSO HAD AN ADDITIONAL ROOM FOR TEMPORARY PORTABLE FACILITIES. UH, SO THAT AFFORDED TWO THINGS AS WE WERE ABLE TO BUILD NEW ADDITIONS AND POTENTIALLY OPEN THEM UP TO OCCUPY. AT THE SAME TIME, WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE TEMPORARY FACILITIES, UH, ALSO TO OCCUPY, TO REALLY GET IN THERE AND DO A LOT OF THE RENOVATION, HEAVY LIFTING WORK, UH, AT BOTH NORTH AND APOLLO. THE DIFFERENCE HERE CLEARLY IS THE WEST JUNIOR HIGH SITE DOES NOT HAVE THE AVAILABLE LAND TO, FOR SOME OF THOSE SAME LOGISTICAL, UH, BENEFITS. SO WE HAVE THE, THE, OF COURSE, THE NEW BUILD CONCEPT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU AS SUCH, UH, THE LAYOUT AND CONFIGURATION, UH, OF BOTH, NOT ONLY THE NEW SCHOOL BUT THE, THE BASEBALL FIELD. A LITTLE BIT OF THE THINKING BEHIND, BEHIND THE ORIENTATIONS, UH, OF BOTH OF THOSE ELEMENTS. UH, THE MAIN ENTRY, YOU SEE, OF COURSE, FACING HOLLY, UH, THE BLUE STAR TO THE NORTH. UH, CLEARLY WE WANTED SOME STREET ACCESS OR ADJACENCY FOR THAT MAIN ENTRY. UH, IT'S NOT ONLY CLOSE TO THE NORTH, UH, PARKING LOT, THE ADDITIONAL PARKING, UH, THAT'S MUCH NEEDED IN THIS SITE. UH, BUT IT RELATES TO THE OTHER, UH, PROGRAM SPACES AND ADJACENCIES FOR THE BUILDING. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, ON THE SOUTHERN END, UH, OF THE BUILDING ON YOUR LEFT ARE ALL OF THE ATHLETIC FACILITIES, YOUR GYMS, YOUR, UH, LOCKER ROOMS, EVEN ON THE SOUTH END, MORE TO THE EAST. UH, WHERE THAT OTHER BLUE STORE IS TO YOUR RIGHT, IS THE FINE ARTS FACILITY. UH, SO THE BENEFIT THERE WAS SEPARATING THOSE, [02:45:01] UH, OF COURSE FOR NOISE, GETTING THOSE FURTHER AWAY FROM THE ACADEMIC SPACES FOR NOISE, BUT ALSO PROVIDES ADJACENCY TO THE FIELDS, UH, BELOW THEM FOR, FOR EASE OF ACCESS. SO, UH, IT WAS VERY DISTINCT ON HOW THE ORIENTATION WAS LAID OUT FOR THOSE BENEFITS. THE OTHER BEING, OF COURSE, UTILITIES AND SERVICES. SO WE THOUGHT IT BEST THAT THOSE SERVICES, WHICH ARE ON YOUR, UH, PLAN RIGHT SIDE OF THE BUILDING, BETTER IT BE INSIDE OUR PROPERTY THAN MORE ALONG, SAY DOGWOOD OR HOLLY, FOR EXAMPLE. WE'RE TALKING DUMPSTERS, UH, ELECTRICAL, UH, PANELS, YOU KNOW, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. SO, UH, IT WAS VERY SPECIFIC ON, ON SOME OF THE BENEFITS TO HOW THIS SCHOOL IS FACING AND WHY IT'S FACING THE CERTAIN, UH, DIRECTION IT IS. SIMILARLY, THE BASEBALL FIELD, OF COURSE, TODAY, IF YOU NOTICE OR IF YOU KNOW THE AREA, UH, THE, THE OUTFIELD IS KIND OF ON THE, THE EAST SIDE, THE HOME PLATE FACES YOUR EAST, UH, IF YOU WILL. UM, IT'S ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER. IMAGINE BEING ON HOME PLATE. UH, WHEREAS HERE WE'RE LOOKING AT IT BEING ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER, UH, SOUTHWEST, RATHER FACING TO THE EAST. UM, THAT'S VERY DELIBERATE. THAT'S VERY DELIBERATE. SO IT'S GOT THE SAME LOOK FACING EAST. JUST WE'RE ON THE NORTH TODAY. WE'LL BE KIND OF ON THE SOUTH TOMORROW IF YOU'RE FOLLOWING ME. AND A LOT OF THAT HAD TO DO WITH, FROM OUR FEEDBACK FROM OUR ATHLETIC FOLKS, PARTICULARLY WITH NIGHT GAMES AND KIND OF HAVING THAT WEST SUN BEHIND YOUR HOME PLATE, RIGHT? NOT HAVING THAT GLARE, UH, UH, IF YOU WILL, OF THE SUN. AND SO THEY WERE VERY DELIBERATE ABOUT WANTING THE FIELD BEING ON HOME PLATE, STILL LOOKING EASTWARDLY, IF YOU WILL, EXCEPT OF COURSE THE ORIENTATION TO SOUTH AND LIEU OF NORTH. SO I WANTED TO KIND OF DESCRIBE SOME OF THE WHYS BEHIND HOW BOTH, BOTH THE BUILDING AND THE, AND THE FIELD ARE LAID OUT. THAT SAID, THAT THEN DRIVES A LOT OF THE SITE CIRCULATION OR THE DRIVEWAYS THAT YOU SEE, AND THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN, WHICH IS WHERE I WANTED TO END, UH, BEFORE SHOWING SOME OF THE, THE PRETTY PICTURES, UH, AS ERICA MENTIONED, UM, THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF CONGESTION TODAY, UH, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE WITH OUR ENTRY RIGHT THERE ON THE CORNER OF HOLLY AND MIMOSA. UM, SO THE, THE BENEFIT HERE, AND THIS PLAN'S BEEN REVISED, THIS IS, THIS IS NOT THE FIRST ATTEMPT, THIS IS, THIS IS SEVERAL ITERATIONS, UH, BUT THE ATTEMPT TO BRING THE PARENTS IN AT DRIVE A DOWN SOUTH IS TO BRING THEM FURTHER DOWN, MIMOSA, FURTHER AWAY FROM HOLLY AND MIMOSA INTERSECTION, UH, BECAUSE WE FEEL LIKE THAT WAS CONTRIBUTING A LOT TO THOSE FOLKS BACKING UP NORTH MIMOSA NORTHBOUND. IMAGINE GOING UP TOWARDS ARAPAHOE, UH, BACKING UP. UH, AND THAT IS ALSO THE OTHER END OF WHERE MAGNOLIA HITS MIMOSA, YOU KNOW, AS YOU GO FURTHER NORTH. UH, SO BRINGING FOLKS THROUGH THE INTERSECTION ON MIMOSA DOWN TO DRIVE A WAS ALLOWING THAT SPATIAL DISTANCE TO REALLY GET FOLKS OUT OF THAT INTERSECTION. OF COURSE, WE ARE NOW TRYING TO BRING THEM ON SITE WHERE THE RED IS SHOWING UP AND AROUND, UH, TO PROVIDE THAT SINGLE FILE QUEUING, UH, BUT ALL IN THE SPIRIT OF MAYBE TRYING TO KILL A COUPLE OF BIRDS WITH ONE STONE, MEANING, UH, RELIEVE THE, THE VISION PROBLEM, THE CONGESTION PROBLEM AT HOLLY AND MIMOSA, BECAUSE OUR MAIN ENTRY TO THE EXISTING SCHOOL HAPPENS TO BE RIGHT THERE. UH, BUT ALSO PROVIDING THAT ABILITY TO GET OFF STREET AS WITH ALL OF OUR TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLANS AND REALLY CIRCULATE, UH, THROUGH THE SITE, UH, NOT UTILIZE CITY STREETS TO GET FOLKS OFF. UH, SO I KIND OF WANTED TO DESCRIBE THAT A LITTLE BIT BETTER, UH, JUST TO GO THROUGH WHY, UH, THE ORIENTATION IS LIKE IT IS IN RESPECT TO THE DUAL DROP OFF. SO ONE, IT'S ALWAYS GREAT TO SEPARATE BUSES FROM, FROM CARS. UH, THE, THE, THE MOST SIMPLE REASON BEING SAFETY, UH, WHEN OUR BUSES ARE NAVIGATING THROUGH OUR DRIVES, IT'S MUCH BETTER FOR THEM TO, UM, MANEUVER AND, AND, AND MAKE TURNS. WE CALL 'EM TAIL SWINGS, RIGHT? TAIL SWINGS ARE, ARE, ARE PRETTY PRONE TO, IF YOU GO TOO FAR, TOO WIDE, YOU, YOU MIGHT MAKE CONTACT WITH ANOTHER VEHICLE. UH, ALLOWING THAT SEPARATION, UH, IS, IS ALWAYS BEST WHEN YOU CAN, THE DUAL BENEFIT ALSO OF THE TWO STARS, YOU SEE, THE MULTIPLE POINTS OF ENTRY, UH, BECOMES A CAMPUS MANAGEMENT, UH, BENEFIT. SO HISTORICALLY, OUR, OUR JUNIOR HIGHS ARE SET UP AT LEAST NOT TODAY, BUT TOMORROW, SO TO SPEAK, THE NEW ARRANGEMENT, THE NEW CONFIGURATION TO WHERE THEY WILL HAVE THREE OR FOUR STAFF MEMBERS AT EACH OF THOSE STAR LOCATIONS, UH, INCLUDING CAMPUS LEADERSHIP, ASSISTANT PRINCIPALS, EVEN MAYBE THE PRINCIPAL. UH, AND THAT'S HOW WE RECEIVE A KIDDOS IN. THAT'S HOW WE CAN CHECK FOR ID BADGES, CELL PHONES, YOU KNOW, DO THAT. WE CAN SORT OF DIVIDE AND CONQUER, IF YOU WILL. UH, AS OPPOSED, OR YOU CAN IMAGINE IF, IF ALL KIDS WERE COMING THROUGH, UH, ONE ENTRY POINT, [02:50:01] ONE STAR, SO TO SPEAK, UH, THAT BECOMES MUCH MORE DIFFICULT. IT BECOMES MUCH MORE CONGESTED, UH, AND IT'S MUCH MORE DIFFICULT FOR OUR STAFF TO REALLY BE ABLE TO, UH, KIND OF VERIFY OUR STUDENTS AND, AND VERIFY THAT EVERYBODY'S FOLLOWING, UH, THE RULES AND, AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. SO, UH, THAT'S THE REASONING BEHIND, UH, NOT ONLY SEPARATING BUSES AND CARS, UH, BUT DUAL ENTRY POINTS FOR OUR CAMPUS STAFF TO DIVIDE, UH, RECEIVE OUR KIDS IN, UH, DIRECT THEM TO COMMON SPACES LIKE THE CAFETERIA. UH, SOMETIMES WE'LL DIRECT OUR SPECIAL NEEDS KIDS DIRECTLY TO CLASSROOM, CURB TO CLASS, UH, AND THEN OTHERS THAT MIGHT GO TO ATHLETICS OR FINE ARTS OR OTHER, OTHER PROGRAM SPACES. UH, SO THAT'S SORT OF THE WHY BEHIND KIND OF HOW WE'RE CONFIGURED, HOW WE'RE LAID OUT. UH, AGAIN, DIDN'T WANNA GET INTO THE PRETTY PICTURES JUST YET. I WANTED TO FOCUS ON THIS, THE LOGISTICS, IF YOU WILL, UH, OF HOW WE'VE SET THIS UP AND HELP TRY TO ANSWER SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS. UH, AND THEN MAYBE TURN IT OVER TO THE ARCHITECT WHERE THEY GET TO DO THE FUN STUFF AND SHOW YOU, SHOW YOU WHAT THIS NEW BUILDING'S SUPPOSED TO LOOK LIKE. SO IF I MAY STOP THERE AND, 'CAUSE I KNOW THERE WERE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. I DON'T KNOW IF I CAUGHT 'EM ALL, BUT IF I COULD USE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAYBE ANSWER. YEP. COUNCILMAN DORIAN. THANK YOU. UM, IS THIS WHERE I CAN ASK ABOUT THE LIGHTING? UM, UH, I KNOW YOU'RE PRIMARILY TALKING ABOUT THE TRAFFIC, BUT, UH, I, UH, WANT TO ADDRESS THE LIGHTING ISSUE. I THINK THERE'S TWO THINGS THE PUBLIC ARE, ARE, ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC, OF COURSE. YES, SIR. AND THE LIGHTING. UM, JUST, UH, FOR CLARIFICATION, FOR ANYBODY LISTENING AND, AND PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE, COULD YOU KIND OF EXPLAIN, UM, THE LIGHT SOURCE OF VV VERSUS THE 20 FOOT VERSUS THE 80 FOOT AND WHAT TYPE OF LIGHT SPREAD, WHAT TYPE OF TECHNOLOGY, WHAT TYPE OF LIGHT SOURCE ARE USING, AND POTENTIALLY EVEN THE FOOT CANDLE FOR THAT SPREAD? SURE. AS BEST I CAN AND, AND NON-TECHNICAL ENGINEERING, UH, LANGUAGE, HOPEFULLY THE, NOW THE 80 FOOT REFERRING TO THE STADIUM LIGHTING, I'M ASSUMING YES. THAT HEIGHT, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. RIGHT. UH, SO, SO LET ME, LET ME SPEAK QUICKLY TO THE PARKING LOT LIGHTING TO THE NORTH, UH, UH, ON THE BACKSIDE OF MAGNOLIA, UH, THERE WE ARE, WE ARE OFFERING UP, OR, OR REALLY TRYING TO GET AS, AS LOW OF A HEIGHT POLE OR FIXTURE AS POSSIBLE. UH, WE'VE THROWN AROUND THE 20 FOOT, UH, RANGE, WHICH IS KIND OF CURRENTLY WHERE WE'RE LANDING. WE'RE DOING A, A PHOTOMETRIC STUDY THERE. WE HAVE A PHOTOMETRIC STUDY THERE. UH, IT, IT ALLOWS FOR THE LOT POLES TO BE ON THE PERIMETER OF THE LOT. UH, THEY'RE SHIELDED, SO THEY, THEY REALLY FOCUS DOWNWARD. BUT THE HEIGHT GIVES US THE ABILITY, AS YOU WOULD IMAGINE, UH, ONE POLE CAN COVER SO MANY SPACES, UH, AND STILL BE WITH THAT SHIELDED, UH, APPARATUS, UM, AND ONLY HAVE THE POLES ON THE PERIMETERS THAT GIVES US THE, THE PHOTOMETRICS WE NEED TO COMPLY WITH OUR, YOU KNOW, ONE FOOT CANDLE OR WHATEVER, WHATEVER THE, UM, THE REQUIREMENT IS. WE LOOKED AT 15 FOOT POLES, UH, AS WELL. THAT DOES REQUIRE US TO GO, IF YOU'LL NOTICE IN THAT NORTH PARKING LOT, THERE'S A, THERE'S AN ISLAND IN THE MIDDLE, AND THAT DOES REQUIRE US THEN TO PROBABLY PUT A COUPLE OF POLES IN THE ISLAND, WHICH MAY FACE WEST COULD FACE EAST. SURE. THEY'RE SHIELDED. SO DIRECTIONALLY WE'RE STILL TRYING TO GO DOWNWARD. UM, BUT, BUT AS YOU WOULD IMAGINE THERE, THERE COULD BE STILL, YOU KNOW, I SEE THE LIGHT, OR NOT THAT IT'S DIRECTLY SHINING ON ME, BUT THAT, BUT THAT I CAN SEE IT, UH, IN, IN GENERAL. SO WE HAVEN'T FULLY LANDED, UH, ON, ON WHETHER IT'S 15 FOOT HIGH, 20 FOOT HEIGHT. WE, WE HAVE SUGGESTED THE 20 FOOT OFFERS FEWER POLES ALONG THE PERIMETER, UH, SHIELDED. AND THEN THE OTHER, THE OTHER BIT TO THAT IS OUR NEW STANDARD, WHICH WE, UH, HOPE TO, TO REPLICATE IS THESE ARE OF COURSE LED LIGHTS. OF COURSE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALSO DIMMABLE. THESE ARE THE KINDS OF FIXTURES THAT THEY, THEY DIM TO A VERY LOW LEVEL WHEN THERE'S NO, THEY DON'T SENSE OCCUPANCY OR MOTION. UH, THEN AS YOU GO, THEY'RE NOT OFF, BUT, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE DIM VERY LOW. AND THEN AS YOU WALK UNDERNEATH THEM, AND YOU MIGHT HAVE EXPERIENCED THIS IN OTHER LOTS, THEY SORT OF GET BRIGHTER AND YOU'RE LIKE, WHAT JUST HAPPENED? YOU KNOW? AND THAT'S, THEY'VE GOT THAT MOTION SENSOR TIED TO IT. UM, WE'RE, WE WOULD HOPE THAT, THAT THAT'S GONNA ALSO BE AN ELEMENT TO THESE, THESE FLIGHTS, PARTICULARLY ON THE NORTH LOT. UH, THAT WOULD JUST GIVE, UM, AGAIN, THAT, THAT THAT ASSURANCE, IF YOU WILL, UH, THAT THAT'LL BE MINIMAL NUISANCE, UH, AND STILL PROVIDE LIGHTING FOR SAFETY AND, AND, YOU KNOW, THE NECESSARY THINGS. UM, WITH RESPECT TO THE, THE 80 FOOT STADIUM LIGHTS, UH, THERE WAS, THERE'S NO PROPOSED CHANGES IN THIS PARTICULAR PLAN WITH, WITH THOSE, BUT THOSE, I, I DON'T KNOW IF THE QUESTION WAS WAS, WELL, WHAT ARE WE DOING TO MAYBE IMPROVE THAT CURRENT CONDITION? WELL, YES. AND ALSO, THOSE ARE NOT GONNA BE ON FULL TIME, THEY'RE ONLY GONNA BE ON GENERALLY DURING [02:55:01] A GAME. IS THAT CORRECT? YES, SIR. OR ARE THEY GONNA BE ON AT NIGHT EVERY NIGHT? NO, SIR. NO, JUST DURING THE GAMES OR JUST DURING THE EVENTS. MM-HMM. UH, THAT WOULD WARRANT SUCH, SUCH, SUCH A, YOU KNOW, NEED FOR THE LIGHTING. UH, WE DO HAVE UPGRADES PLANNED FOR THOSE STADIUM LIGHTS, JUST NOT NECESSARILY PACKAGE. BUT, AND I UNDERSTAND TECHNOLOGY ON LIGHTING, AND, AND I THINK THE, THE QUESTION HERE, AND I'M ONLY, I'M ONLY SAYING THIS OUT LOUD TO MAKE SURE THAT, AGAIN, PEOPLE ARE LISTENING AND IN THE AUDIENCE ABOUT THE LIGHT SPREAD, HOW MUCH LIGHT SPREAD, UH, POTENTIALLY WOULD PENETRATE THE PERIMETER INTO ANY OF THE, UH, ADJOINING HOUSEHOLDS. UH, AND I AND YOU DID MENTION THEIR DEMOABLE, WHICH IS GOOD. I KNOW THEY'RE GONNA BE LED MOST LIKELY, YOU KNOW, AN UPDATED, YOU KNOW, A FIXTURE OF SOME SORT. I JUST WANT TO GET A GENERAL IDEA OF WHAT TYPE OF SPREAD, UM, AND YOU MAY NOT HAVE GOTTEN TO THIS POINT YET, BUT POTENTIALLY ALLOW WHAT TYPE OF SPREAD WILL PENETRATE THE PERIMETER SURE. OF THE FACILITY COUNSEL, IF I, THEY MAY OR NOT HAVE DESIGNED IT, BUT I MEAN, THE MAXIMUM LIGHT INTENSITY AT THE PROPERTY LINE CAN BE ONE FOOT CANDLE. MM-HMM . SO THAT'S UNLIKE NOISE. IT'S ACTUALLY FAIRLY EASY TO MEASURE. AND SO WHATEVER THEY DESIGN, UH, AND JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU AN EQUIVALENT, I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S ROUGHLY COMPARABLE TO DIM INDOOR LIGHTING OR TWILIGHT LEVELS. AND SO THAT'S EASILY MEASURED AT THE PROPERTY LINE. AND SO WHATEVER THEY DESIGN AND THE PLAN THAT THEY PROVIDE TO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, NOT ONLY WILL IT HAVE TO BE IN A, I MEAN, NOT ONLY WILL THE PLAN HAVE TO INDICATE THAT WHEN WE GO OUT AND LIGHT IT. SO THAT'S THE MAXIMUM, WHATEVER THEY CHOOSE TO DO BELOW THAT IS PROBABLY SUPERIOR IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S, UM, UM, OPINION. BUT WE WILL, WE WILL HOLD 'EM TO THAT, TO THAT ONE FOOT CANDLE AT THE PROPERTY LIGHT. THAT'S GREAT. WE'LL, AND THANKS FOR CLARIFYING THAT TOO. AGAIN, I JUST REALLY WANT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE MAIN, THE TWO MAIN ISSUES ARE TRAFFIC AND LIGHTING. I, I WANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT FIXTURES ARE GOING THERE, WHAT TYPE OF LIGHT SOURCES BEING, UH, DISTRIBUTED AND POTENTIALLY WHAT THAT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE ULTIMATELY. YES, SIR. YES, SIR. AND, AND RIGHT AFTER ME, I KNOW OUR ARCHITECTS WILL HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THE PHOTOMETRICS, AND I THINK THEY'LL BE ABLE TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU AS WELL. THAT'D BE GREAT. YES. THANK YOU. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, BARRIOS. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UH, MY FIRST QUESTION WAS SOMETHING I'M GONNA PIGGYBACK OFF OF HIS QUESTION. HE ASKED ABOUT THE LIGHTING AND YOU, UM, I WAS TAKING SOME NOTES WHILE, WHILE HE ASKED THAT, AND YOU SAID THAT THEY'LL BE TURNED ON, TURNED ON DURING SPECIAL EVENTS. WHERE IS, DOES THAT INCLUDE THAT PARKING LOT ON THE NORTH SIDE OF HOLLY? THAT, OR IS THAT GONNA BE LIT AT NIGHT EVERY NIGHT? YEAH. RIGHT NOW OUR CURRENT STANDARD IS THE, THE LOTS ARE SCHEDULED. SO THEY, IN OTHER WORDS, THEY ARE, THEY ARE OCCUPIED ON, OR THE, THE NEW CONTROLS, IF YOU WILL, IS THE FACT THAT THEY'RE DIMABLE AND THE FACT THAT WITHOUT MOTION, THEY'RE AT A VERY LOW LEVEL, SO THEY WILL NOT BE OFF RIGHT. PER TIME SCHEDULE. UH, BUT THEY WILL BE SORT OF SLEEPING, IF YOU WILL, UNTIL SUCH TIME AS, AS ACTIVITY IS SENSED, AND THEN THEY DO ILLUMINATE, BUT OKAY. YEAH, I APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION. ALL RIGHT. MY NEXT QUESTION, EXCUSE MY IGNORANCE ABOUT THE GAME OF BASEBALL OR THE SPORT OF BASEBALL MM-HMM . BUT I, THE, THE SOUND PROJECTION FOR THE FIELD IS, ARE THOSE USUALLY DIRECTED INWARD TOWARDS THE FIELD, OR IS IT TOWARDS THE STANDS? TOWARDS THE STANDS? YES, SIR. SO IN THAT REGARDS, THAT ACTUALLY HELPS. IT'S FURTHER AWAY FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD. YES, SIR. YEAH. OKAY. IT WILL BE FOCUSED TOWARDS THE STANDS. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT. THE, UM, PARKING MANAGEMENT DURING CONSTRUCTION, OBVIOUSLY CURRENT STAFF PARKING WHERE CURRENT WEST IS, WILL NOT BE AFFECTED BY CONSTRUCTION, BUT WILL THAT, IF I'M, WELL, I GUESS THERE'S NO PARKING CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW WHERE THE OLD BASEBALL STADIUM IS, 'CAUSE PEOPLE NORMALLY PARK ON THE STREET. 'CAUSE THAT OLD, THE CURRENT BASEBALL STADIUM COMES PRETTY MUCH TO DOGWOOD. YES, SIR. OKAY. I THINK I JUST ANSWERED MY QUESTION. YES, SIR. THERE, THERE'S, SO THERE'S NO NEED FOR AN ALTERNATE, I GUESS, STAFF PARKING PLAN. 'CAUSE CURRENTLY DURING CONSTRUCTION, CURRENT STAFF PARKING IS NOT AFFECTED. IS THAT ACCURATE? THAT IS CORRECT. YES, SIR. THAT IS CORRECT. UM, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO THINK THROUGH MY QUESTION. LOT C OR SORRY, LOT C DURING CONSTRUCTION. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IS A STAGING AREA. IS THAT ACCURATE? YES, SIR. OKAY. WELL, AND I, IF I REMEMBER, IF I READ CORRECTLY IN AN EMAIL THAT CAME THROUGH THAT YOU'LL BRING A POLE DOWN AND THAT'S HOW, SO WE'RE NOT, IT'S NOT GONNA BE A STAGING AREA WITH A BUNCH OF GENERATORS. OBVIOUSLY, IF SOME, YOU KNOW, CATASTROPHIC EVENT, CATASTROPHIC EVENT CAME THROUGH AND UM, KILLED POWER, THEN AN EMERGENCY GENERATOR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT ON A DAY-TO-DAY, UH, BECAUSE THERE IS POWER TO THE AREA, IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S A REMOTE SITE WHERE WE'RE GONNA NEED GENERATORS. IS THAT ACCURATE? THAT IS ACCURATE, YES, SIR. OKAY. [03:00:01] I'M ASSUMING THERE WILL BE CONSTRUCTION TRAILERS THERE. IS THAT WHAT, THAT'S MOSTLY GONNA, I MEAN, YOU'RE NOT PUTTING SUPPLY, YOU MAYBE HAVE ONE OR TWO LITTLE PALLETS OF SUPPLIES, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, THAT'S A CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT, LIKE A SITE MANAGEMENT, CORRECT? CORRECT. FOR THE MOST PART. OKAY. WHAT I WOULD ASK IS, I KNOW I'VE HEARD THIS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU OBVIOUSLY ONLY HAVE THREE OR SIX PROPERTIES THAT, THAT, UM, RUN UP TO THAT PROPERTY THERE MM-HMM . UM, AND I DO KNOW THAT THERE ARE CONCERNS. I THINK IF I LIVED IN ONE OF THOSE SIX, MY CONCERNS WOULD BE THAT THE TRAILERS KIND OF NOT NECESSARILY BE BACK UP. YOU KNOW, IF YOU, IF YOU PUT THE TRAILER IN THAT NORTHWESTERN MOST CORNER OF THAT LOT, THEN YOU HAVE THREE HOUSES THAT TRAILER'S GONNA BE BACK UP AGAINST. RIGHT. I WOULD HOPE THAT IN THIS PROCESS YOU WOULD MOVE IT MAYBE TO THE EAST SIDE OR MAYBE TO THE SOUTH SIDE TOWARDS HOLLY, SO THAT THE NORTH SIDE COULD MAYBE BE USED AS PARKING FOR THE CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES VERSUS JUST SO THAT IN AND OUT HEAVY ACTIVITIES KIND OF AWAY FROM THE HOMES. NO, THAT, AND THAT'S A GREAT POINT. YES, SIR. THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD STRONGLY HOPE THAT YOU GUYS WOULD TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN PLANNING THAT LOT OUT. I KNOW IT'S A, IT'S A SMALLER LOT. UM, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU HAVE ENOUGH, I THINK, WORK AROUND THERE. YES, SIR. I ASSUME YOU'RE GONNA PUT ONE OR TWO TRAILERS. IT'S NOT A MASSIVE, I CAN'T IMAGINE YOU'RE GONNA PUT SEVEN OR EIGHT OUT THERE. SO IT'S, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, IS THAT ACCURATE? YEAH, THE TRAILER, THERE MAY BE ONE JOB TRAILER WE CALL IT, BUT THEN THE REST WOULD BE SMALL STORAGE CONEXES. OKAY. UH, TYPE UNITS. SO, AND IT'S, IT'S INTERESTING. IT'S A GREAT POINT YOU MAKE ON OUR DISTRICT WEBSITE. SO ANYBODY CAN GO LOOK TODAY IF THEY WANTED TO GO TO THE RICHARDSON WEST JUNIOR HIGH WEBSITE UNDER CAMPUS PLANNING, UH, WE HAD SHARED THIS AS WELL. WE HAD COMMUNITY MEETING NUMBER TWO LAST WEEK. UH, AND THERE'S A VERY GOOD RENDERING, UH, OF KIND OF THE PROPOSED SITE LAYOUT FOR THAT TEMPORARY LOT AND, AND SORT OF THE, THE LOCATION OF THE PROPOSED TRAILER AND AND STORAGE UNITS. AND IT IS ON THE EAST SIDE, UH, OF THAT TEMPORARY LOT AS YOU, AS YOU MENTIONED. SO, UH, BUT THAT IS REFLECTED IN THE PRESENTATION, WHICH WOULD BE GOOD TO, TO SHARE. I, WE, WE DIDN'T BRING THAT VERSION HERE TONIGHT, BUT, OKAY. WELL, I APPRECIATE IT SPEAKS TO YOUR POINT. APPRECIATE, I APPRECIATE Y'ALL THINKING ABOUT THAT. 'CAUSE I THINK, I'LL BE HONEST, THIS PARKING, THIS JUST DRIVEWAY PLAN FROM THE OTHER PLANS I'VE SEEN, I KNOW WE LOOKED AT NORTH, I, UH, WHAT WAS THE OTHER ONE? PALO? UM, I LIKE THIS ONE BETTER THAN THE OTHERS WE'VE SEEN. AND I, I KNOW I DRIVE BY THIS ALMOST EVERY DAY. MY SON WENT TO WEST. I HAVE A LOT OF FRIENDS WHOSE KIDS WILL BE GOING TO WEST AND CURRENTLY GO TO WEST. AND, UM, SO I DRIVE BY THIS PROPERTY ALMOST EVERY DAY. AND I, I THINK WHAT YOU'VE DONE HERE, UM, TO, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, LOOKS A LOT BETTER THAN OTHER DRIVE, UH, PLANS I'VE SEEN. AND I, I, I THINK THE, THE MAIN CONCERN HERE IS GONNA BE LIKE COUNCILMAN DORIAN SAID, IS THE LIGHT AND HOW YOU MANAGE THAT. SOUNDS LIKE YOU GUYS HAVE A, UH, A, UH, GOOD GRASP OF THAT. MY BIG CONCERN IS HOW YOU MANAGE THE CONSTRUCTION. YES. I THINK THAT HAS, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS, IT'S, IT'S TIGHT. THE ROADS ARE TIGHT. YOU'RE VERY CLOSE TO THOSE HOUSES ON THE NORTH SIDE OF HOLLY. UM, I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT YOU GUYS ARE MOVING TRAFFIC AWAY FROM THAT HOLLY, UH, OFFSET ROAD AND MIMOSA. THAT'S A MESS, THAT INTERSECTION. UM, BUT PLEASE JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND AND THOSE NEIGHBORS IN MIND. 'CAUSE THAT CONSTRUCTION PROCESS, I THINK IS GONNA, IS GONNA BE THE BIGGEST ISSUE. ABSOLUTELY. YOU'RE A HUNDRED PERCENT CORRECT. YES. COUNCILMAN AINE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WELL, SOME OF THE GOOD QUESTION WAS ASKED. THAT WAS GREAT. UH, REGARDING THERE IS A FEW ISSUES THAT YOU ALREADY KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, DROP OFF AREA, QE YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC LIGHT. THESE ARE THE REALLY MAIN ISSUE. AND MOST OF THE, YOU KNOW, COMMENTS THAT CAME, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE AGAINST TO THIS, NOT THE, THE SCHOOL. THEY ARE, ARE TALKING ABOUT ADJUSTING SOME OF THE YES. DROP OFF AREAS, SOME OF THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT ISSUE. SO NOW THE PARKING THAT YOU HAVE ON THE, THAT'S FOR THE STAFF C PARKING, RIGHT? YES, SIR. UH, YOU KNOW, I KNOW I'M NOT GOING TO ASK THAT SPECIFIC QUESTION THAT HOW COUNCIL MEMBER CURTIS DORIAN ASK, UH, THE WHAT KIND OF LIGHT YOU'RE GONNA BE USING, BUT THAT'S PROBABLY PREMATURE TO ASK. BUT THE GOAL SHOULD BE THERE THAT YES, IT CAN MANAGE THE LIGHT, LIKE ONE CANDLE AT THE PROPERTY LINE. MM-HMM . BUT, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY CAN SEE THE LIGHT FROM THEIR BEDROOM, IT MIGHT NOT BE LIKE, LIGHTED IN THEIR PROPERTY, BUT IF THEY LOOK AND THEN THEY'RE GONNA SEE A MOON RISE THERE. SO, SO IF WE CAN, HOPEFULLY YOU CAN NOT, HOPEFULLY, I THINK YOU NEED TO USE SOME KIND OF SHIELD, SIR, SO THAT YES, SIR. THE LIGHT IS NOT VISIBLE. THE ACTUAL LIGHT FIXTURE IS NOT VISIBLE FROM SOMEONE'S PROPERTY. YES, SIR. UH, IT'S 20 [03:05:01] FEET IS GOOD, BUT STILL, LIKE, YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE LIGHT, IF YOU USE, YOU CAN SEE SOMEONE FROM SOMEONE'S FROM YARD BACKYARD, WHICH MEANS LIKE SOMEONE FROM THE BEDROOM, THE WINDOW, THEY CAN SEE THE LIGHT AND, UH, THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO SLEEP AT LEAST FOR FIRST FEW YEARS RIGHT. BEFORE THEY GET ADJUSTED. SO IF YOU CAN USE THOSE KIND OF SHARE, I THINK THEN THAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UH, IT'S NOT GONNA BE POSSIBLE. TOTALLY AVOID THE LIGHT, BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA SEE THE PARKING IS LIGHTED, BUT AT LEAST THEY, IF THEY CAN'T SEE THE LIGHT PICTURE ITSELF, THEN IT'S GONNA BE HELPFUL FOR THEM. UM, BUT REGARDING NOT HAVING LIGHT DURING NON-GAME DAY OTHER DAY, I THINK THAT'S CONCERNING. UH, BECAUSE OF THE SAFETY SECURITY, YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF LIGHT, UH, TEAM LIGHT SO THAT THE AREA IS VISIBLE SO THAT, YOU KNOW, SAFETY, SECURITY, NOTHING REALLY GOES ON INTO THAT EMPTY SPACE. UH, NOW, I DON'T KNOW, I MEAN, THIS IS REALLY, YOU ARE PRETTY MUCH STUCK WITH THE CONDITION, WHAT YOU HAVE THERE. FOOTBALL FIELD IS THERE, THE SCHOOL THERE, THE MULTIPURPOSE, UH, ATHLETIC CENTER. IS THERE, UH, YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW DO YOU THINK YOU CAN MANAGE THIS TRAFFIC TO TAKE THIS FROM DRIVE A AND GO ALL THE WAY TO DRIVE B? UH, HOW CAN IT, HOW CAN YOU MAKE THIS THING MORE NATURE? BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE TO SEE THE MOST EASY ROUTE, QUICK ROUTE. AND YOU KNOW THAT SOMETIMES PARENTS LEAVE THEIR KIDS IN THE CAR AND THEN GOES TO THE, GOES TO WORK. SURE. BECAUSE THEIR BRAIN WORKS LIKE A MACHINE. RIGHT. SO THEY WILL TRY TO SEE, OKAY, I NEED TO DROP MY KID OUT. MM-HMM . IT'S CLOSE TO THE SCHOOL TIME, AND I'M GONNA DO SOMETHING QUICK TO MAKE THIS THING MORE NATURAL. I THINK IT'S EASY TO DRAW THE LINE ON THE PAPER MM-HMM . BUT PRACTICALLY IT'S QUITE IMPOSSIBLE. SURE. SO WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHT? HOW ARE YOU GONNA MANAGE THIS? CAN YOU EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT? WE'LL CERTAINLY JUST KEEP REITERATING, UH, THE, THE PLAN TO PARENTS AND, AND HOPEFULLY EVENTUALLY, OF COURSE, WHEN IT'S NEW, IT'S, IT'S GONNA, IT MAY TAKE A MINUTE TO ADAPT AND ADJUST, BUT BEYOND THAT, PHYSICALLY, UH, I THINK IT'S GONNA BE A COMBINATION OF TRAFFIC CONES, UH, TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT GATES. UH, IF THOSE ARE ACROSS FIRE LANES, YOU KNOW, THOSE WOULD'VE THE APPROPRIATE NOX LOCKS AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. AND THEN, UH, IF NEED BE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THE LAST RESORT IS IS, IS SCHOOL STAFF, DEPENDING ON WHERE, UH, WITHIN THE LONG RED LINE, UH, THEY'RE DEVIATING FROM PLAN. UH, BUT AGAIN, IT, IT PHYSICALLY WE WILL, WE WILL USE A COMBINATION OF THOSE EFFORTS TO, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, SOMETHING WAS BROUGHT UP, IF YOU'RE GOING UP DRIVE, UH, IN DRIVE A AND UP TO THE NORTH AND RED WHERE IT INTERSECTS THE PURPLE THE FIRST TIME IT HITS PURPLE. UH, IF FOLKS TRY TO GO RIGHT, UM, BACK OUT ONTO DRIVE E, UH, WE WOULD THEN START BRINGING IN, FIRST ATTEMPT WOULD BE JUST LIKE WE'RE GONNA DO AT DRIVE E, WHERE YOU SEE THE, THE CIRCLE INDICATED. UH, IT'S MEANT TO BE, UH, DON'T TURN IN THEIR CIRCLE. WE WOULD USE CONES OR SOMETHING TO, TO FORCE THEM LEFT, IF YOU WILL. UH, AND HOPING THEY DON'T RUN OVER THE CONES OR THINGS OF THAT NATURE. UH, BUT ANYWAY, WE WOULD USE THOSE KINDS OF MEASURES TO, TO ENCOURAGE FOLKS TO FOLLOW THE PLAN, FOLLOW THE RED LINE, SO TO SPEAK, UH, IN A WAY THAT STILL ALLOWS OUR BUSES, UH, THE ROUTE IN PURPLE, UH, TO BE ABLE TO MANAGE AND GO OUT, DRIVE E AS AS, UH, SHOWN. SO, UH, WE WILL, WE WILL BE DILIGENT ABOUT THAT, BUT IT WILL TAKE ADDITIONAL PHYSICAL MEASURES IF, IF NECESSARY, UH, ALONG WITH CONSTANT REMINDERS SO THAT THIS IS GONNA BE, WE, WE, AND WE DO THAT NOW TODAY, UH, WE DO THAT DAILY WITH, WITH, WITH DIFFERENT SCHOOLS ACROSS THE DISTRICT, UH, JUSTICE POSITION HERE, BECAUSE THIS IS GONNA BE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. MM-HMM . AND PARENTS ARE GONNA BE DRIVING THERE FOR THREE YEARS AND THEN NEW PARENTS WILL BE COMING MM-HMM . AND THERE WILL BE ALWAYS LEARNING PROCESS EVERY YEAR. AND, UH, I KNOW TEACHERS STUFF, THEY WORK REALLY, REALLY HARD. I APPRECIATE THAT, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE TO WORK UNNECESSARILY REALLY HARD ON HARD. UH, IT CAN MAKE YOUR LIFE A LITTLE BIT EASIER. UH, RAINY DAY IS GONNA BE TOUGH PUTTING COMMS EVERY DAY, YOU KNOW? YES. YOU DO THAT BECAUSE YOU DID NOT HAVE ANY CHOICE WHEN THE SCHOOL WAS BUILT. SO YOU ARE JUST TRYING TO MANAGE, I THINK WE NEED TO QUIT THE IDEA OF TRYING TO MANAGE, WE NEED TO BE A LITTLE MORE DEMANDING AND DO THINGS MORE THAT COULD BE, THAT WOULD BE, BE AUTONOMOUSLY MORE EASIER FOR US. SO I THINK THE ARCHITECT, ARCHITECT COULD LOOK AT THE WAY THAT THIS PATH COULD BE [03:10:02] DESIGNED SUCH A WAY THAT PEOPLE LOVE TO DRIVE THIS WAY NATURALLY INVITING, WHICH COULD BE COMBINATION OF PAINTING, PA PAVEMENT, PAINTING, MARKING, UH, LITTLE BIT WIDER MAYBE, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS A POSSIBILITY. AND PUT SOME, SOME KIND OF WELCOMING MARK ON TWO SIDE OF THE, YOU KNOW, STREET SO THAT IT'LL BE USED EVERY DAY FOR ANOTHER 40 YEARS, 50 YEARS MORE AUTOMATIC. SURE. IF YOU HAVE TO SPEND LIKE HALF AN HOUR EVERY MORNING, SOME TEACHER PUTTING CONES AND THING MANAGING TRAFFIC, ADD THAT FOR 40, 50 YEARS. MM-HMM . IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU ARE INVITING YOURSELF TO DO THIS, BUT IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE CHOICE, THAT'S ONE THING. BUT IF YOU HAVE A CHOICE, I WOULD MAKE THIS THING LOOK LIKE MORE AUTOMATIC, OTHERWISE IT'S GONNA BE RUSH EVERY MORNING. SURE. AND, UH, IT'S DIFFICULT, YOU KNOW, WHY MAKING OUR LIFE DIFFICULT. THANK YOU. YEAH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UH, YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH SOME OF THOSE IMAGES AND GET TO THE ARCHITECT PART? YES, SIR. LET'S, LET ME, IF I MAY, GREG ESTES WITH GLEN PARTNERS IS HERE. I'M GONNA HAVE HIM GO THROUGH HIS PRESENTATION BRIEFLY, UH, JUST TO SHOW YOU, UH, WHAT THE, WHAT THE NEW BUILDING IS SUPPOSED TO LOOK LIKE. AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK AND ANSWER ANYTHING WE CAN. THANK YOU. JAMES ADDRESS. YEP. UH, GREG ESTES, 2118 ARNOLD PLACE, UH, DALLAS, TEXAS. UM, SO I'LL KIND OF GO THROUGH THIS REALLY QUICKLY 'CAUSE I FEEL LIKE WE'VE GONE THROUGH THIS TOPIC QUITE A BIT. UM, SO WE'VE ALREADY WENT THROUGH THE WELCOMES AND INTRODUCTIONS. SO EVERY TIME WE GO THROUGH A PROJECT, WE TRY TO ESTABLISH THESE GOALS, A GUIDING PRINCIPLES. UM, AND TYPICALLY THESE START WITH THE DISTRICT AND, UM, COMMUNITY MEETINGS. SO WE HAD A COMMUNITY MEETING AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS PROJECT WHERE WE SAT WITH PARENTS AND TEACHERS AND ADMINISTRATION, UM, AND STUDENTS. AND WE KIND OF, UM, CAME UP WITH THESE FIVE, UM, GOALS AND PRINCIPLES. SO ONE IS THAT VEHICULAR CONGESTION AND TRAFFIC. SO THAT'S REALLY AT THAT HOLLY AND, UH, MIMOSA WHERE THE CURRENT ENTRY IS. SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT CAME UP IN THAT COMMUNITY MEETING IS HOW CAN WE MAKE THAT MORE SAFE AND, UM, INVITING, UM, ALSO TO DEVELOP AN OPEN AND CELEBRATED MAIN ENTRY FOR THE STUDENTS. UM, ALSO, HOW CAN WE MAKE THESE SPACES EXCITING FOR THE MAGNET PROGRAM? SO I THINK SOMETHING THAT'S NOT BEEN DISCUSSED TONIGHT IS THAT RICHARDSON WEST IS A, ONE OF THE MAGNET PROGRAMS. SO IT'S GOT SOME SPECIAL, UM, PROGRAMS BUILT INTO THIS MIDDLE SCHOOL. UM, HOW CAN WE OPTIMIZE COLLABORATIVE AND FLEXIBLE LEARNING SPACES? SO YOU'LL SEE IN THE PLAN, WE'VE GOT A SERIES OF COLLABORATIVE SPACES FOR STUDENTS THAT KIND HAVE BREAK OUT. UM, THEN HOW CAN WE, UH, AMPLIFY THE SCHOOL SPIRIT? SO THOSE ARE JUST, UM, ARCHITECTURAL GUIDELINES THAT WE'D LIKE TO KIND OF REFOCUS BACK AS WE KIND OF GO THROUGH THIS. UM, BUT I THINK IT KIND OF INCITES SOME OF THE DECISIONS THAT WE MADE. UM, SO I'LL SKIP OVER THIS. I KNOW WE'VE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT THE SITE PLAN QUITE A BIT TONIGHT. UM, A COUPLE STUDIES THAT WE DID AS WE LOOKED AT HOW CLOSE WE WERE TO THE ADJACENT STRUCTURE. SO ON THE NORTH SIDE, THIS IS THE MAIN ENTRY, UH, WHERE APPROXIMATELY ONE 50 TO THAT CLOSEST, UM, HOUSE OR STRUCTURE. AND THEN ON THE DOGWOOD SIDE WE'RE APPROXIMATELY 170 FEET. SO INTO THE FLOOR PLAN, UM, NORTH IS STILL UP. SO THAT MAIN ENTRY YOU COME IN OFF OF, UM, HOLLY. UM, AND THEN YOU COME INTO KIND OF A GRAND, UH, CAFETERIA SPACE THAT IS CELEBRATING ONE OF THE MAGNET PROGRAMS. SO ONE OF THE MAGNET PROGRAMS THERE IS THEATER. SO AS YOU CAN SEE, CENTRALLY LOCATED IS, UH, THE STAGE. SO THIS ONE'S KIND OF GOT AN UN HEIGHTENED, UM, THEATER PROGRAM. IT'S GOT A SMALL MINI BLACK BOX ASSOCIATED WITH IT. UM, ANOTHER KIND OF PROGRAM TO HIGHLIGHT HERE IS CULINARY ARTS. SO THAT'S GOT AN ADJACENCY THAT TO THE CULINARY AND KITCHEN. UM, AND THEN ONE OTHER THING THAT WE'VE KIND OF BUILT INTO THE PLANNING IS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF HERE. UM, WE'VE PUT IN ALL OF THE ATHLETICS, AND THAT WAS PURPOSEFUL BECAUSE OF, UM, OUR SITE BEING CONSTRAINT. WE DON'T HAVE THE ATHLETIC FACILITIES THAT THE OTHER MIDDLE SCHOOLS HAVE. UM, SO THEY SHARE THAT WITH THE HIGH SCHOOL. SO THERE WAS SOME INTENTION ON PUTTING THAT TO THE SOUTH. SO THOSE, UM, STUDENTS DON'T HAVE AS MUCH, UM, UH, TO GO TO THE, THE FIELDS ON LEVEL TWO. UM, YOU START TO SEE THE MEDIA CENTER, AND THIS IS PARTLY BECAUSE OF HOW TIGHT OUR SITE IS AS WE HAD TO START GOING VERTICAL WITH SOME OF THIS STUFF. SO MEDIA CENTERS ON LEVEL TWO, YOU START TO SEE SOME OF THE OTHER CTE PROGRAMS, UM, THE COMMUNICATIONS AND EDITING ROOM. UM, AND THEN LEVEL THREE, UM, YOU START TO SEE ROBOTICS AND THAT'S REALLY KINDA THE SHOWCASE PACE. SO IT ALL KIND OF CENTRALIZES AROUND THE CENTRAL PIECE. UM, AND ONE OF THE, UM, THINGS THAT WE'VE ASKED FOR IS A HEIGHT, UM, ADJUSTMENT TO 60 FOOT, I THINK WE WERE AT 58, UM, BUT A MAX OF 60. AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF HOW THIS FLOOR PLATE WORKED OUT IS EVERYTHING'S SO, UM, EXTRUDED THAT WE WANTED THE CENTRAL SPACE AND YOU'LL SEE THE CLEAR STORY ON TOP OF IT, AND THAT'S WHERE OUR 60 FOOT SPOT IS SO THAT WE CAN GET DAYLIGHT DOWN INTO THE SPACE. UM, SO AS WE STARTED DESIGN THIS, WE WANTED SOMETHING THAT FIT [03:15:01] VERY CONTEXTUAL. UM, SO WE PULLED A LOT OF THE MATERIALS FROM RICHARDSON HIGH. SO YOU SEE A LOT OF THE RED BRICK, UM, YOU SEE A LOT OF, UM, STONE KIND OF BEING INTEGRATED AT KIND OF THE, THE FOUNDATION OF IT. SO JUST REALLY TRYING TO TIE THIS BACK TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE DIDN'T WANT SOMETHING, UM, THAT FELT FOREIGN, UM, TO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THIS IS THAT MAIN ENTRY OFF OF UM, UH, HOLLY. UM, NOW WE'RE KIND OF AT THE CORNER OF THE NORTHWEST, SO THE WATER TOWER'S DIRECTLY BEHIND US. UM, THIS IS THE DOGWOOD SIDE, SO YOU CAN SEE IT'S A VERY MODEST BUT UM, CLEAN FACADE, TRYING TO BE VERY RESPECTFUL TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, AND THIS IS THAT CENTRAL SPACE, SO YOU CAN START TO SEE THE GRAND, UM, VOLUME OF THIS. BUT LIKE I SAID, WE WANTED TO GET NATURAL DAYLIGHT DOWN INTO THESE SPACES. YOU START TO SEE SOME OF THE PROGRAMS BEING HIGHLIGHTED. CULINARY, YOU'VE GOT THEATER IN THE BACK, YOU'VE GOT THE SECOND STORY LIBRARY. UM, HERE'S ANOTHER VIEW LOOKING OUT, UM, TO THE NORTH. SO WE'RE KIND OF STANDING ON THE MID BRIDGE LOOKING INTO THE LIBRARY. UM, SO BACK TO BEING ON LEVEL TWO, BUT YOU START TO SEE JUST A LOT OF TRANSPARENCY IN, IN THE BUILDING. UM, AND THEN A COLLABORATION SPACE THAT'S BUILT ON THE NORTH SIDE. SO GETTING A LOT OF THAT AMBIENT KIND OF DAYLIGHT INTO THE SPACE. UM, TRYING TO REALLY KIND OF CONTROL SOME OF THAT GLARE. UM, AND THEN WE JUST HAD A SMALL KIND OF SCHEDULE UPDATE IN HERE. SO OBVIOUSLY TODAY WE'RE AT THE BEGINNING OF MARCH. UM, WE ISSUE A HUNDRED PERCENT DRAWINGS, UM, IN JUNE. SO SOME OF THE DECISIONS ABOUT THE LIGHT FIXTURES AND THINGS, WE STILL HAVE PLENTY OF TIME TO WORK THROUGH THOSE. UM, OUR TEAM IS ACTIVELY ALREADY STUDYING THAT, UM, WITH THE DEFLECTORS AND GETTING, UM, THOSE FOOT CANDLES DOWN. UM, MAX ONE WE'RE TRENDING AT PROBABLY 0.6 IS PROBABLY ABOUT THE AVERAGE WITH A LOT OF IT BEING EVEN IN THE TWO IS 0.2. UM, SO TRENDING BELOW THE ONE MAX. AND ANY QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, TIME FOR QUESTIONS. COUNCIL MEMBER, FIN, YOU HAVE PRETTY PICTURES. CAN YOU SHOW SOME OF THE PICTURE AGAIN? YEAH, UH, ESPECIALLY THE INSIDE. THANK YOU FOR, FOR YOUR HARD WORK AND PRESENTATION. THAT'S REALLY GREAT. THE PREVIOUS SLIDE THAT YOU HAD, THAT ONE YEAH. IS SEE ON THE RIGHT SIDE. ARE THOSE THE CLASSROOM THERE? YES. AND UH, THOSE ARE GLASS. YES. AND UH, TRANSPARENT GLASS. CORRECT. SO IF, HOW THAT'S GONNA WORK, UH, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEONE WALKED THROUGH THE HALLWAY, UM, IT'LL BE SEEING THE GLASS INSIDE . YEAH, THEY'LL HAVE ROLLER SHADES ON ALL THE INTERIOR WINDOWS. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE DISTRICT STANDARDS THAT THEY HAVE A BLACKOUT SHADE. OH. THEY'LL BE PUTTING BLACKOUT SHADE, INTERIOR WINDOWS AND UM, I MEAN DEFINITELY THIS WILL BRING THE LIGHTS, LOTS OF THINGS. AND THIS LOOKS, LOOKS PRETTY. UH, HOW ABOUT THE SECURITY THINGS? HAVE YOU, IS THAT SOMETHING, UH, SECURITY? UM, SO, UM, IN, IN WHAT ASPECT, WHAT'S PART OF SECURITY? JUST SECURITY, SAFETY AND SECURITY FOR THE CASE. UM, SO THE FRONT ENTRANCE GOING THE WRONG WAY, UM, WILL BE A CONTROLLED ENTRY PIECE. UM, SO UP THERE IN THAT TOP YELLOW BAR, UM, YOU'LL COME INTO A CENTRAL, UM, ADMINISTRATION AND THAT HAS DUAL ACCESS, SO YOU HAVE TO BUZZ IN FROM THE OUTSIDE THAT WILL LET YOU IN THROUGH ANOTHER DOOR, AND THEN YOU HAVE TO THEN BE BUZZED IN AGAIN. SO THAT'S THE FIRST LINE OF SECURITY. OKAY. ANYWAY, I MEAN, MY QUESTION WAS IN GENERAL, SO YOU HAVE LOOKED AT THOSE ISSUE, I KNOW THIS IS IMPORTANT, I JUST HAVE TO ASK THE QUESTION TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNOW. YES, YES SIR. I ASK THAT QUESTION. I KNOW, BECAUSE THOSE ARE IMPORTANT SECURITY THINGS. YES. AND BUT HOW ABOUT THE, I SEE THAT IN THE FRONT YOU HAVE, UM, UH, YOU HAVE GLASSES ENTRANCE ON THE, ON THE LEFT SIDE THEY SEE THE GLASS. YEAH. SO THERE'S THE CORNER OF MIMOSA AND UM, WHAT'S THE OTHER STREET NAME? UH, NO, THAT'S NOT THE CORNER THAT'S ALONG THE DOG. UH, DOGWOOD. THERE'S HOLLY. YEAH, THERE'S HOLLY. SO IT'S NOT CORNER, CORNER IS THE, UH, THE FIELD THERE, BASEBALL FIELD ON THE OTHER SIDE? YEAH. NOW THIS ONE THERE THAT IS THERE IN FRONT OF SOME OF THE ONE HOUSE OR TWO HOUSE THERE. UM, IF I GO, IF YOU GO DOWN A SITE PLAN, UM, SO WE'VE GOT MAYBE ONE OR TWO HOUSES TO THE WEST OF THAT CORNER THAT YOU WERE, HOW DOES THE LIGHT TOOL WORK LIKE IN THE EVENING THAT IF THEY TURN THE LIGHT ON, HOW WE'LL HAVE SITE LIGHTING? UH, VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IN TRACK C. UM, BUT IT'LL HAVE DEFLECTORS ON IT THAT CONTROLS IT, UM, ONTO THAT PARKING THERE AND WILL BE HELD TO THE SAME STANDARD OF THE, THE ONE FOOT CANDLE AT THE PROPERTY LINE. RIGHT. SO IN THE EVENING, SO SOMEONE CAN SEE FROM OUTSIDE THE WHOLE SCHOOL [03:20:01] INSIDE BECAUSE GLASS TRANSPARENT, ARE YOU GONNA BE USING DIFFERENT GLASS? NO, IT'LL, IT'LL BE, UM, VISION GLASS. SO YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE IN, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE EXTERIOR GLASS ALSO HAS ROLLER SHADES ON IT TOO. SO IF TEACHERS WANTED TO KIND OF CONTROL THEIR VIEWS AT NIGHT, UM, THEY COULD ROLL THOSE DOWN EACH, EACH DAY IF THEY NEEDED TO. THAT'S GREAT. I, I'M NOT GONNA ASK YOU TO INCREASE THE BUDGET, BUT THERE IS A WAY THAT YOU COULD LIKE DIM THE GLASS. WE DIFFERENTIATE BY KICKING A BUTTON, BUT THAT'S GONNA INCREASE THE BUDGET. UM, ANYWAY, THANK YOU. WONDERFUL. ALRIGHT. IT IS, THIS IS AN OPEN HEARING AND UH, I'D LOVE TO KNOW IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC. MS. ER, I HAVE ONE SPEAKER SIGNED UP. MAYOR CHRISTIE CORTEZ MATHIS. HI. YOU OKAY? ALL RIGHT. SO GOOD EVENING, UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS AND CITY STAFF. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK. MY NAME'S CHRISSY CORTEZ MATHIS AND I LIVE AT 1309 MAGNOLIA DRIVE, RIGHT BEHIND THE NEW WEST JUNIOR HIGH PARKING LOT. SO THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK ABOUT, UH, THE ZONING CASE, 25 22. UM, FIRST OFF, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK MR. JAMES WATSON. YES. AND THE TEAM FROM, UM, RISD FOR TAKING THE TIME TO, UM, TO ADDRESS SEVERAL OF MY CONCERNS AS WELL AS MY NEIGHBOR'S CONCERNS, UM, ABOUT THE STAGING AREA AND THE PARKING LOT THAT ARE GONNA, THAT'S GONNA BE LOCATED BEHIND OUR HOMES. UM, THROUGH THOSE CONVERSATIONS, WE LEARNED THAT GENERATORS WILL NOT BE USED DURING STAGING, THAT THE PARKING LOT LIGHTING WILL BE SHIELDED AND ORIENTED AWAY FROM OUR HOMES WITH LOWER LUMEN LEVELS. AND WE LOVE THAT THE LIGHTS CAN BE DIMMABLE. SO YAY FOR ALL OF THAT. UM, THE OTHER REQUEST, UM, SHARED, UH, AT THE LAST MEETING, WE WEREN'T THERE, WE WERE OUTTA TOWN, BUT, UM, WE GOT THE NOTES IS, UM, AND WE AGREE WITH THIS A HUNDRED PERCENT, THE MAJORITY OF THE RESIDENTS WHO BACK DIRECTLY TO THAT, UH, PARKING LOT, WE WOULD LIKE TO NOT HAVE THE BLACK CHAIN LINK FENCE AROUND THE FINISHED PARKING LOT. SO WE WOULD JUST ASK FOR, UH, A LANDSCAPE BUFFER OF TEXAS SAGE, WHICH IS ON THE CITY OF RICHARDSON'S APPROVAL APPROVED SUB LIST. THIS WOULD BE A GREAT COST SAVINGS FOR THE DISTRICT AND ADD A BETTER TRANSITION, UH, TO OUR PROPERTIES. UM, THE LAST THING I WANT TO SHARE ABOUT THE PARKING LOT COMES FROM MY NEIGHBOR WHO'S A COMMERCIAL ARCHITECT. I BELIEVE YOU GUYS HAVE A COMMENT FROM HIM AS WELL. UM, IN PROJECTS WHERE PARKING IS LIMITED, DESIGNERS EXPLORE OPPORTUNITIES TO SHARE PARKING WITH NEARBY INSTITUTIONS. IN THIS CASE, THERE IS A CHURCH LOCATED JUST ACROSS THE CORNER FROM THE PROPOSED SCHOOL SITE ON HOLLY. UM, IT'S AT HOLLY AND DOGWOOD, UM, THAT HAS 75 PARKING SPACES THAT ARE LARGELY UNUSED DURING WEEKDAY, UM, SCHOOL HOURS. SO WHILE THE DISTRICT PLANS, UH, TO BUILD A 67 SPACE PARKING LOT DOWN THE STREET FROM THE SCHOOL, EXPLORING A SHARED PARKING PARTNERSHIP RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET COULD ALLOW THE LOT TO BE SMALLER, UM, MAYBE EVEN BY HALF, RIGHT? UM, THIS COULD PRESERVE MORE GREEN SPACE NEAR OUR HOMES AND REDUCED THE HEAT ISLAND EFFECT THAT WILL BE CREATED WHEN WE TRANSITION FROM AN EXISTING FIELD TO A FIELD OF CONCRETE. SO THIS IS A REALLY WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY IN MY OPINION, AND IT'LL ALSO REDUCE PROJECT COSTS. UH, AND AT THE SAME TIME IT'LL MEET THE SCHOOL'S PARKING NEEDS. SO AGAIN, WE REALLY APPRECIATE RESD WORKING WITH THOSE OF US THAT WILL BE DIRECTLY AFFECTED BY THE STAGING AREA AND THAT PROPOSED PARKING LOT. UH, WE'RE GRATEFUL TO ESTABLISH AN OPEN LINE OF COMMUNICATION. TRULY, IT'S BEEN HELPFUL. THANK YOU. UM, THE FINAL ISSUE THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS IS TRAFFIC AND STUDENT SAFETY. UM, BECAUSE OF THE SHIFT IN THE BUILDING PLACEMENT, SEVERAL OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD FINGER STREETS, SPRUCE, LAUREL, UH, AND HOLLY, UM, THOSE, THOSE ARE PLACES WHERE PARENTS CURRENTLY DROP OFF THEIR KIDS TO WALK TO SCHOOL. SO THEY'RE NOT GONNA HAVE THAT ANYMORE. SO THIS IS LIKELY GOING TO PUSH MORE TRAFFIC ONTO MAGNOLIA BECAUSE PEOPLE CAN COME DOWN MAGNO DOWN MIMOSA, CUT ON MAGNOLIA AND DROP THEIR KID OFF AND THEN TURN ON HOLLY. UM, OVER THE WEEKEND I ASKED PARENTS IN OUR COMMUNITY WHETHER THEY WOULD FOLLOW THE PROPOSED PICKUP ROUTE SHOWN ON THE MAP. SO I HAVE THESE PRINTED FOR YOU GUYS. UM, 15 PEOPLE RESPONDED AND SAID THEY WOULD NOT FOLLOW THE PROPOSED ROUTE. NONE OF THEM WOULD. UM, THIS MATTERS BECAUSE WHEN PARENTS DROP STUDENTS ALONG NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS, THOSE STUDENTS ARE GONNA [03:25:01] HAVE TO CROSS BUSY STREETS TO REACH CAMPUS AND THIS CREATES ADDITIONAL SAFETY RISKS, UM, ALREADY DURING BUSY ARRIVAL AND DISMISSAL TIMES. AND SO FOR THAT REASON, I RESPECTFULLY ASKED THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER FOUR REQUIREMENTS BEFORE APPROVING THIS, UH, PROPOSAL. UM, SO FOR OUR PARKING LOT, NO FENCING, PLEASE, JUST SOME NICE TEXAS SAGE WOULD BE LOVELY, UM, AS OUR BARRIER. AND THEN ALSO TO REQUIRE RISD TO TO EXPLORE THE SHARED DAYTIME PARKING WITH THE NEARBY CHURCHES TO POTENTIALLY REDUCE THE SIZE OF THE PLANNED LOT AND DECREASE THAT HEAT ISLAND EFFECT THAT WILL AFFECT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THEN FOR TRAFFIC, JUST TO CONDUCT A TRAFFIC STUDY ON MAGNOLIA DRIVE NOW TO ESTABLISH A BASELINE BEFORE THE SCHOOL OPENS. WE ALREADY HAVE RHS TRAFFIC, EVERYBODY CUTS THROUGH OUR STREET. UM, AND SO THIS WILL GIVE US A NICE BASELINE SO WHEN WE SEE THE INCREASED TRAFFIC, WE'LL HAVE SOMETHING TO COMPARE TO. UM, AND THEN ALSO JUST KIND OF RETHINKING HOW KIDS GET TO SCHOOL AS A PROPOSED PLAN, UM, IS PROBABLY NOT GONNA BE VERY SUCCESSFUL. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND FOR CONSIDERING THESE STEPS TO HELP, UH, TO HELP WITH KEEPING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD SAFE. THANKS. THANK YOU MS. CORTEZ. MATHIS. ANY OTHER SPEAKERS IN THE AUDIENCE? IF YOU'LL COME ON UP, MAKE SURE THAT YOU FILL OUT A CARD AFTERWARDS. THE ONE OUT ON THE LINE. OKAY. WE MAY NEED A SECOND ONE AFTERWARDS. WE CAN DEAL WITH IT AFTER. UM, COPY FOR THE RECORD. OKAY. IT'S JUST MY, MY PRESENTATION. OKAY. ALRIGHT. ALL RIGHT. I AM SEAN CORTEZ MATHIS. I LIVE AT 1 3 0 9 MAGNOLIA DRIVE. I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON ZONING FILE TWO FIVE DASH 22. MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE AND THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TIME TO SPEAK THIS EVENING. THERE IS A PROVERB OFTEN QUOTED IN DISCUSSIONS OF CIVIC LIFE. A SOCIETY GROWS GREAT WHEN OLD MEN AND WOMEN PLANT TREES WHO SHADE, THEY KNOW THEY SHALL NEVER SIT IN. THAT IDEA CAPTURES SOMETHING IMPORTANT ABOUT THE WORK OF CITY GOVERNMENT. THE INSTITUTIONS WE BUILD, OUR LIBRARIES, OUR PARKS, AND OUR SCHOOLS. THEY ARE THE TREES THAT WE PLANT TODAY SO THAT FUTURE GENERATIONS MAY ENJOY THE SHADE. TONIGHT I WOULD LIKE TO FOCUS ON INFRASTRUCTURE, BECAUSE INFRASTRUCTURE IS THE SOIL IN WHICH THOSE TREES GROW. HERE IN RICHARDSON, THAT SOIL HAS ALREADY BEEN CAREFULLY PREPARED. OUR CITY INVESTED SIGNIFICANT TIME DEVELOPING THE COMPLETE STREETS AND ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN, WHICH OUTLINES A VISION FOR INFRASTRUCTURE THAT SUPPORTS EVERYONE, DRIVERS, PEDESTRIANS, CYCLISTS, AND STUDENTS TRAVELING TO SCHOOL. IT'S A VISION WHERE PEOPLE HAVE SAFE CHOICES AND HOW THEY MOVE AROUND THE CITY. AS I REVIEWED THE PROPOSED PLAN FOR WEST MIDDLE SCHOOL, I FOUND MYSELF WONDERING HOW IT FITS WITHIN THAT VISION. THE CURRENT DESIGN PLACES HEAVY EMPHASIS ON AUTOMOTIVE AND BUS CIRCULATION. THE CAMPUS IS LARGELY SURROUNDED BY VEHICLE TRAFFIC. WHILE SAFE ACCESS FOR STUDENTS ARRIVING BY FOOT OR BICYCLE APPEARS VERY LIMITED, EVEN THE AREA THAT APPEARS MOST PEDESTRIAN FIN FRIENDLY, NOT ON THEIR THING UP THERE, THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE BUILDING DOES NOT APPEAR TO HAVE A CLEAR, SAFE WAY FOR STUDENTS TO REACH IT. THIS CONCERN WAS ALSO RAISED DURING THE FEBRUARY 3RD PLAN COMMISSION MEETING. WHEN COMMISSIONER, UH, POINTER ASKED WHAT WAS BEING DONE TO SUPPORT BICYCLE TRAVEL TO THE SCHOOL, THE RESPONSE WAS THAT BIKE RACKS WOULD BE PLACED IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING. I APPRECIATE THAT BICYCLES WERE CONSIDERED, BUT A BICYCLE RACK ALONE DOES NOT FULFILL THE INTENT OF COMPLETE STREETS. RICHARDSON'S ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN EMPHASIZES SAFE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS FIRST, FOLLOWED BY ACCESS FOR OTHER FORMS OF ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION SUCH AS BICYCLES. THESE PRIORITIES ARE ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT AROUND SCHOOLS. WHEN SAFE WALKING AND CYCLING ROUTES EXIST, THEY REDUCE CONGESTION DURING DROP OFF AND PICKUP, IMPROVE SAFETY FOR STUDENTS AND GIVE FAMILY TRANSPORTATION CHOICES. WENDY'S SCHOOL IS DESIGNED SO THAT EVERY STUDENT MUST ARRIVE BY CAR. CON CONGESTION ISN'T AN ACCIDENT, IT'S THE ONLY POSSIBLE OUTCOME. THE MOST EFFECTIVE WAY TO REDUCE TRAFFIC IS TO MAKE IT POSSIBLE FOR FEWER PEOPLE TO RELY ON A CAR FOR EVERY TRIP. BUT THAT CAN ONLY HAPPEN IF THE INFRASTRUCTURE EXISTS TO SUPPORT THOSE CHOICES. RISD IS ASKING THE CITY TO APPROVE ZONING CHANGES FOR THIS PROJECT. [03:30:01] I BELIEVE IT IS REASONABLE FOR THE CITY TO ASK THAT THE DESIGN REFLECT THE TRANSPORTATION VISION RICHARDSON HAS ALREADY ADOPTED. IF WE HAVE PREPARED THE SOIL THROUGH THE COMPLETE STREETS AND ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN, THEN WE SHOULD ENSURE THAT THE PROJECTS WE APPROVE ACTUALLY PLANT SOMETHING IN THAT SOIL. FOR THAT REASON, I RESPECTFULLY ASK THE COUNCIL NOT TO APPROVE THE PLAN AS IT IS CURRENTLY PROPOSED, AND INSTEAD REQUIRE A DESIGN THAT MEANINGFULLY INCORPORATES SAFE PEDESTRIAN AND BIKE BICYCLE ACCESS. IF WE DO THAT, WE WILL PLANT A TREE THAT GROWS WITH THE SCHOOL AND SERVES GENERATIONS OF RICHARDSON STUDENTS. AND WHILE MANY OF US MAY NEVER SIT IN A SHADE, THE FAMILIES AND CHILDREN WHO COME AFTER US CERTAINLY WILL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU MR. CORTEZ MATHIS. ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? ALRIGHT, MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION. COUNCIL MEMBER INE. I SECOND IT. ALRIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHEN RIDER. A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER INE. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ALRIGHT. UM, LOVE ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION OR THOUGHTS OR QUESTIONS THAT WE MAY HAVE? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE? YEAH, JUST TO ADJUST ONE OF THE SPEAKER'S, UH, QUESTIONS. I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S BEEN DISCUSSED WITH RASD YET ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THEY CAN GET RID OF THE FENCE AND PUT IT IN A DIFFERENT PLANT, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE A HELPFUL SOLUTION HONOR IF THE ASK HIM TO COME BACK IF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT'S OPEN TO, IT'LL COME BACK UP IF THE APPLICANT WILL COME BACK UP. WE GO AHEAD AND PRESENT THESE FEW QUESTIONS TO YOU. YEAH, JUST SO JUST TO HELP WITH THE, THE CONVERSATION, I DON'T THINK THE CITY WOULD BE OPPOSED IF RSD IS AGREEABLE. MM-HMM . YEAH. YES, MA'AM. SO YOU HEARD THE, THE SPEAKER'S SUGGESTION. ONE OF, UM, MS. CORTEZ MOUTH IS ASKED THAT WE GET RID OF THE FENCING AT TRACK C AND INSTEAD PLANT IT WAS TEXAS SAGE OR, OR SOMETHING THAT'S ON THE CITY'S APPROVED LIST. WOULD, WOULD THE DISTRICT BE OPEN TO REMOVING THE FENCING OR IS THAT SOME SORT OF SECURITY CONCERN OR, UH, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S PROBABLY NOT OUR FIRST PREFERENCE, BUT I MEAN, IF IT'S GONNA GET US PAST THE ZONING CASE, THEN YOU KNOW, WE WILL CERTAINLY WORK WITH, WITH, UH, THE CITY AND, AND TRY TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS THEY HAVE AND, AND TRY TO MEET THE SPIRIT OR INTENT OF WHAT OUR NEIGHBORS ARE REQUESTING. SO YOU'RE OPEN TO IT. GREAT. ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBER? MARIOS? UM, CITY-WISE, WE, I KNOW I ASKED A A QUESTION EARLIER ABOUT THE CROSS PLAN AND THE COMP. IT WAS, I BELIEVE YOU MENTIONED BEFORE, WE GIVE A CO THAT NEEDS TO BE APPROVED BY STAFF. WHAT'S, HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHY. ISN'T THAT SOMETHING WE KINDA LOOK AT WHEN IT COMES TO THIS? LIKE, BECAUSE THEY TECH THEY'RE TECHNICAL STANDARDS THAT THE STAFF IS CHARGED WITH ENFORCING. THEY'RE NOT, UH, IT'S NOT A FEATURE OF A ZONING CASE. OKAY. AND THAT'S, I, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE LEGITIMATE ANSWER. I MEAN THESE ARE, THESE ARE THESE, I MEAN PRETERM, UH, ADD ON HERE. I MEAN THESE ARE, THESE ARE ENGINEERING STANDARDS THAT ARE BEST PRACTICES THAT WE MUST, IN MANY CASES WE MUST FOLLOW PARTICULARLY IN A SCHOOL ZONE TO ENSURE THAT WE DON'T CREATE RISK FOR OURSELF. IT'S NOT THINGS THAT ARE HAPHAZARDLY DESIGNED BASED ON, YOU KNOW, WE REMIND ME INDIVIDUAL PERCEPTIONS. I APPRECIATE YOUR, YOUR RESPONSE THERE. DID WE RECENTLY ADD SOMETHING? DIDN'T WE RECENTLY? I KNOW WHEN I, WHEN THERE WAS SOME STUFF BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION LAST SPRING AND I THINK WE DID A TRAFFIC STUDY OR TWO AT THE BEGINNING OF THE, THE SCHOOL YEAR. DID WE CREATE ANY CHANGES RECENTLY OR WHAT WAS THE MOST RECENT? YEAH, I THINK IT, IT WAS PROBABLY A YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF AGO WE DID PUT IN A CROSSWALK WITH, UM, THE RAMPS THAT WERE CONSTRUCTED THERE AT HOLLY AND MIMOSA. OKAY. SO THERE WAS A NEW CROSSWALK GENERATED THERE. THANK YOU. WHAT WAS THE NET CHANGE? THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT. WHAT WAS THE NET CHANGE ON PARKING SPOTS FROM THE OLD PLAN TO THE NEW PLAN? OH GOSH. DID WE ADD OR SUBTRACT IT? 40? WE'RE ADDING 41 41. WE'RE ADDING 41. AND THOSE ARE ALL ADDED TO THE TOP SOUTH OF HOLLY. WE KIND OF, OR DID WE TAKE SOME OFF SOUTH OF HOLLY AND WE ADDED TO THE NEW PARKING LOT? I THINK THAT'S A COMBINATION OF, UH, MODIFICATIONS TO BOTH SOUTH LOTS, THE ONE NORTH OF THE STADIUM AND THEN THE ONE NORTH OF THE MAC. UH, IN ADDITION TO THE ONE IN THE TRACK C WE CALL IT, UH, THE NET RESULT AS AN AD OF 41 SPACES. I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT PLUS IN DELTA, SO THERE IS SOME. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UM, I SECOND WHAT COUNCILMAN JUSTICE, HER QUESTION WAS THERE ABOUT THE, UH, GREENERY SCREEN VERSUS A FENCE. I WOULD SUPPORT THAT AND I WOULD SUPPORT THAT [03:35:01] AS AN AMENDMENT TO THIS COUNCIL MEMBER INE. THANK YOU MR. MAYOR, I SHOULD HAVE ASKED THIS QUESTION BEFORE. UH, WHAT IS THE SIDEWALK AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE SCHOOL? THE WIDTH? WHAT IS THE WIDTH? UH, IS IT FIVE FEET? I BELIEVE IT'S FIVE FEET. IT'S NOT SHOWN ON THIS PLAN. YEAH. BUT THERE ARE CERTAINLY SIDEWALKS EVERYWHERE AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE SITE AND SCHOOL AND OKAY. CROSSWALK NOT SHOWN ACROSS HOLLY THERE WHERE THE PARKING LOT IS. THERE'S SEVERAL THINGS NOT REFLECTED HERE. WE'VE GOT AN ANSWER FROM STAFF, I THINK. YEAH. ANYWAY, THE MINI, GO AHEAD. YOU WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING? YEAH, SO I THINK THE SIDEWALK, SIDEWALK REVIEW WILL BE PART OF OUR CIVIL DESIGN REVIEW. SO WHEN THAT COMES IN, WE'LL DEFINITELY MAKE SURE THAT THE MINIMUM OF FIVE FEET IS PROVIDED. MM-HMM . OKAY, THAT SOUNDS GOOD. NOW, HELP ME UNDERSTAND THIS. I, I THINK THIS IS WHAT I UNDERSTAND, BUT I'M GONNA ASK YOU TO VERIFY THAT AGAIN. THIS IS MAGNETIC SCHOOL, RIGHT? YES. AND UH, THAT MEANS BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE, MY KIDS, UH, AND MY KIDS WENT TO WESTWOOD JUNIOR HIGH. THEY COULD HAVE CHOSEN WEST ALSO, BUT WE CHOOSE WESTWOOD AND WE LIVE ALL THE WEST OUTSIDE OF RICHARD. SO WE DRIVE QUITE A BIT TO GO THERE. MM. SO, SO MAGNETIC SCHOOL MEANS KIDS AROUND THE CITY, THEY'LL BE COMING TO THIS SCHOOL? UH, POSSIBLY EVEN FROM THE DALLAS SITE, RIGHT? POSSIBLY. YES SIR. YEAH, SO, SO YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY DRIVING IS SO IMPORTANT ALSO. SO, BUT FOR THE BIKE PART, I DON'T KNOW, HAVE YOU THOUGHT ANYTHING ELSE? UH, IF, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS SOME, UH, YOU KNOW, CHOICE ABOUT SOMEBODY WANTS TO BIKE AROUND THE SCHOOL? OH, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT PATHWAYS BEYOND THE SIDEWALKS? LIKE STREET LANES STRIKED WITH BIKE PATHS? I'M NOT, I'M NOT SURE WE'RE, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE REFERRING TO. I DON'T, YEAH. YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THE WIDTH OF THE STREET PROBABLY THAT'S, UH, IT'S NOT WIDE ENOUGH TO CREATE A BIKE LANE THERE. RIGHT? I I, I, I WANT, I'LL THROW OUT THE PRETERM, BUT I, I REALLY WANNA REINFORCE HERE, WHETHER IT'S A PEDESTRIAN ON THE FOOT OR A, OR A CHILD RIDING ON THE BIKE, THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT ARE GONNA APPLY ENGINEER SOUND ENGINEERING PRINCIPLES THAT ARE WIDELY ACCEPTED AT SCHOOL CROSSINGS TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS BOTH PEDESTRIAN AND BIKE FRIENDLY. MM. UM, SO I, AGAIN, I I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE, I'M NOT SURE WHERE THE, THEY, THEY THOUGHT THAT SOMEHOW THIS ISN'T GOING TO BE AS SAFE AS EVERY OTHER SCHOOL IS COMING FROM, BUT THAT'S JUST NOT CORRECT. OKAY. THANKS FOR THAT. CLARIFI, I THINK THAT'S PRE COULD, COULD WE JUST CLARIFY ON THAT PIECE? UH, AND I, I FULLY AGREE. I JUST, JUST SO WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE MM-HMM . THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN AND SOME OF THESE OTHER THINGS WERE BROUGHT UP, THOSE THINGS, ARE THEY CODIFIED ENOUGH IN THIS TO WHERE THAT WOULD INFORM WHAT DECISIONS YOU'RE MAKING AND WHAT YOU'RE APPROVING ON THIS SITE? THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME. IS THAT GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU COUNSEL? THAT'S GOOD FOR, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, YES, THAT BEING ADDRESSED WHEN THAT QUESTION WAS CAME FORWARD. SO, ALRIGHT. I THINK. THANK YOU COUNSEL. I'M OKAY WITH, UH, WITHOUT OFFENSE IF EVERYBODY IS OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, DORIAN, THANK YOU. I WANT TO SAY I SUPPORT REMOVING THE CHAIN LINK FENCE AND ADDING A MORE DENSE FOLIAGE, UH, AROUND THE PERIMETER THERE. ARCHITECTURALLY SPEAKING WITH THE PROPER PLANT SCAPE, I THINK IT CAN CREATE A NICE SOFT SCAPING AND, UH, NICE DRIVE BY A PILL. I'M ALSO NOT OPPOSED, I ON CREATING A LITTLE MORE GREEN SPACE IN THE SECONDARY PARKING AREA ACROSS THE STREET THAT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER, HOWEVER, THAT WOULD LOOK I CREATING A LITTLE, A LARGER BUFFER IF THAT'S POSSIBLE. IT, IT'S, IT'S FINE THE WAY IT IS AND I DO LIKE, IT WOULD BE NICE IF THERE WAS A LITTLE MORE GREENERY. I DO, I DO AGREE AND SUPPORT GREEN SPACE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. THANK YOU. WONDERFUL COUNCIL MAAM? UH, UH, MAYOR PRO TIMM HUT. RADER, JUST A QUICK QUESTION. IS THE REASON FOR THE FENCING A SECURITY CONCERN? YES, I WAS ABOUT TO ADD TO THAT. I, I WANNA MAKE SURE THERE'S TWO SIDES TO THIS. I THINK, I THINK WE NEED TO, LEMME, I THINK WE NEED TO THINK THROUGH THIS, THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS SECURITY CONCERNS, SAFETY OF OUR STUDENTS IS NUMBER ONE. AND SO IF, IF YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT THE REASON Y'ALL WANT OFFENSE IS FROM A SECURITY STANDPOINT, I, I DON'T, I I DON'T THINK WE OUGHT TO OVERRIDE THE, I DON'T THINK WE OUGHT TO OVERRIDE THE, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT FROM A SAFETY PERSPECTIVE. YES, SIR. AND I WAS GONNA ADD TO THAT AND I CAN SPEAK TO THE, I'M SORRY, THE, THE, I'M SORRY. THAT'S THE STAFF PARKING LOT, IS THAT ACCURATE? THAT IS CORRECT, YES, SIR. VISITOR, IS THERE FENCE ON THE SOUTH SIDE FACING HOLLY OR IS IT JUST THE NORTHWEST AND EAST? IT GOES ALL THE WAY ALMOST TO SEE THE LITTLE BLACK LINE, ALMOST TO THE DRIVER OR THE APPROACH OF THE PARKING LOT. SO IT'S NOT FULLY ENCLOSED, BUT IT GOES ALMOST, UH, END TO END EXCEPT WHERE YOU'RE COMING INTO THE, OUT THE PARKING LOT. [03:40:01] LET'S LET THE APPLICANT JUST ANSWER. CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO US THE SECURITY ELEMENT OF THIS FOR US? YEAH, SO A COUPLE THINGS. ONE, IT IS, UM, LET, LET'S, LET'S BE HONEST. THE VEGETATION'S GONNA HAVE TO, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO KEEP IT UP AND KEEP IT MAINTAINED AND, AND HOPEFULLY IT SURVIVES, HOPEFULLY SOMETHING THAT COME CHOP IT DOWN, IF YOU WILL, UH, OVER THE YEARS. AND OF COURSE WE WOULD REPLANT AND TRY TO REESTABLISH MATURE LANDSCAPING, BUT, BUT JUST KNOW THERE IS THAT ELEMENT OF IF SOMETHING HAPPENS, WE COULD LOSE SOME OF THAT LANDSCAPE BUFFER. THAT'S, THAT'S FIRST AND FOREMOST. THE SECOND IS, AS WE'VE DONE OVER, UH, AT OTHER SCHOOLS, INCLUDING WESTWOOD, UH, MIDDLE SCHOOL WHERE WE ADDED THE FENCE THAT WAS ADJACENT TO THE ALLEY, UH, FOR SECURITY CONCERNS, IT, UH, MINIMIZES, UH, POTENTIALLY FOLKS THAT, THAT MAY WANT TO ENTER INTO OR OUTTA THAT PARKING LOT THAT MAY NOT NECESSARILY HAVE BUSINESS THERE. IT DOESN'T PREVENT IT ALTOGETHER, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY A DETERRENT. UH, AND SO WE, WE REALLY SUPPORTED THAT. I KNOW THE CITY WAS MAKING AN EXCEPTION BECAUSE I THINK MASONRY SCREENING WALL WAS, WAS KIND OF THE STANDARD. UH, THIS IS ACTUALLY A ORNAMENTAL FENCE, BY THE WAY. NOT A, NOT A BLACK VINYL CHAIN LINK, BUT IT'S AN ORNAMENTAL FENCE, UH, ROD IRON. UH, BUT WE, WE, WE APPRECIATE THEM SUPPORTING THAT BECAUSE IT CAME WITH THE REQUIREMENT OF THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER FOR THE, FOR THE SCREENING. UH, BUT WE FEEL IT PROVIDES THAT SAFETY ELEMENT, UH, THAT THAT FOLKS CAN'T GO ACROSS THE FENCE INTO THE ALLEY OR VICE VERSA WHEN FOLKS ARE PARKING AND MAYBE SOMEBODY'S COMING FROM THE ALLEY OVER. SO WOULD YOU, WOULD YOU BE OPEN TO, UH, CURRENTLY THE FENCE IS ON THE OUTSIDE WHERE THE LANDSCAPING IS ON THE INSIDE OF THE PARKING LOT. RIGHT. I THINK THE LANDSCAPING'S ON THE OUTSIDE PROPOSED THE LANDSCAPING IS ON THE OUTSIDE. CORRECT. SO THE FENCE WILL NOT, ONCE THE LANDSCAPE, THE LIVING LANDSCAPE WALL IS, UM, GROWN IN, YOU WON'T SEE THE LAND. YOU WON'T SEE THE FENCE. CORRECT. BE OKAY. PRESUMABLY. RIGHT. OKAY. SO THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE OKAY. YEAH. IS IT ROD IRON IT? WELL, THERE'S, YES, IT COULD. IT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING, ROD IRON. OKAY. I GUESS FOR PURPOSES, THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, THERE'S FLEXIBILITY TO GIVE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT THE CHOICE OF THE CHAIN LINK OR THE TUBULAR STEEL. MM-HMM . UM, SO THAT'S HOW THE ORDINANCE IS CURRENTLY DRAFTED. BUT TO DON'S POINT THOUGH, THE THOUGHT PROCESS WAS THAT THE PLANT MATERIAL, BECAUSE IT'S NEEDED FOR SCREENING PURPOSES TO SUPPORT A BUFFER FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S, OTHER CONCERNS IS THAT PLANT MATERIAL WOULD INTEGRATE WITH THAT FENCE. SO IDEALLY, LONGER TERM, YOU'RE REALLY NOT GONNA SEE MUCH OF THE FENCE IF THEY ALLOW THE LANDSCAPING TO BE MAINTAINED, WHICH IT HAS A MINIMUM SIX FOOT HEIGHT REQUIREMENT AT MATURITY. YEAH. AND I AGREE WITH THAT. ALRIGHT. WE CAN TAKE THE FENCE OFF THE TABLE. OKAY. SO WHAT'S THAT? I'M SORRY. WE CAN TAKE THE CHAIN LINK FENCE OFF THE TABLE. 'CAUSE IF THAT'S THE CONCERN YOU'RE SAYING, WE COULD SPECIFY THAT WE WOULD WANT IT TO BE OUT TUBULAR. THE TUBULAR. ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT? WE ARE, YES. OKAY. YES. OKAY. AND THAT GIVES A SOCIAL SECURITY QUESTION THAT YOU HAVE. PERFECT. DID YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION AS WELL? I'D LOVE TO MAKE A MOTION, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER DORIAN, BEFORE YOU HEAR A MOTION. NO. ARE YOU OKAY? I'M FINE. THANK, I'M HAPPY TO HEAR A MOTION. OKAY. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ZONING FILE Z ZF 25 DASH 22 AND ADOPT AN ORDINANCE, UM, AS LISTED WITH THE TUBULAR STEEL FENCE ADDITION. ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION COUNCIL, MORPHINE. YOU HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND. ALRIGHT. UH, WE HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHIN RIDER, A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER MORPHINE. ARE THERE ANY, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALRIGHT, IF NOT ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY WITH A CHAIN LINK FENCE AND LOVELY GREENERY ON THE OTHER SIDE. ALRIGHT, WE HAVE, [8. REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE CITY COUNCIL APPOINTMENT PROCESS ] UM, ITEM NUMBER, NUMBER EIGHT THAT IS UP. NEXT. WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS AT A BARE MINIMUM MM-HMM . I'D LIKE TO GO THROUGH THE SLIDES AND DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH DISCUSSION WE ACTUALLY HAVE HERE, WE CAN EITHER CONTINUE TO DISCUSS OR WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA AND IT'LL JUST WET OUR APPETITE FOR SOME FUTURE MEETING. BUT I DO WANT TO AT LEAST HAVE THIS INITIAL BRIEFING WITH THE SUGGESTIONS FROM STAFF IF POSSIBLE. UM, SO ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS TO REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE CITY COUNCIL APPOINTMENT PROCESS. MR. MAGNER. THANK YOU MAYOR. MAYOR AND COUNSEL. UM, UH, AS YOU'VE HAD SEVERAL DISCUSSIONS, UH, AS PART OF YOUR CHARTER CONSIDERATIONS, UM, THIS ISSUE IS, UH, BROUGHT FORTH. UM, I'M GONNA BE, UH, PITHY HERE AND JUST REMIND YOU THAT, UM, IF YOU HAVE ONE VACANCY ON THE CITY COUNCIL, UH, IT IS, UH, YOUR REQUIREMENT TO APPOINT A REPLACEMENT, UH, FOR THAT POSITION. UH, OF COURSE IF THERE ARE TWO VACANCIES, THEN THERE'S AN ELECTION THAT, UH, WILL BE, UH, CALLED AND, AND, UM, THAT'LL GO TO, UM, ESSENTIALLY TO THE NEXT GENERAL ELECTION DATE. UM, WHAT I'VE DONE HERE, UM, IS JUST KIND OF MODEL FOR YOU BASED ON, LARGELY BASED ON OUR, OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSION PROCESS, JUST A RECOMMENDED APPOINTMENT PROCESS IF A VACANCY, IF A SINGLE VACANCY OCCURRED AND THE COUNCIL WAS REQUIRED TO APPOINT SOMEONE. UM, SO LET ME RUN THROUGH THIS JUST REALLY QUICKLY HERE INITIALLY. UM, WHAT WE WOULD, WHAT WE WOULD DO IS WANNA [03:45:01] BRING YOU A, UH, APPLICATION, UH, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. AND THE REASON I THOUGHT YOU'D WANNA LOOK AT THE APPLICATION AT LEAST, IS AS TIME GOES ON, DIFFERENT ISSUES EMERGE, UH, DIFFERENT LEGISLATIVE CONSIDERATIONS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO YOU COULD TAKE A ONE QUICK MEETING JUST TO LOOK AT THE CURRENT APPLICATION AND CONFIRM WHETHER THAT WAS ADEQUATE OR NOT, OR WE COULD TWEAK THE QUESTIONS. UM, 'CAUSE RECALL THERE'S JUST BASIC INFORMATION AND THEN LIKE YOUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, THERE WOULD BE FIVE TO SIX QUESTIONS YOU WOULD WANT TO USE. UM, WE WOULD HAVE A, ESSENTIALLY A THREE WEEK APPLICATION PERIOD, UM, THAT ANYONE WHO IS INTERESTED IN THE POSITION COULD, UH, COULD SUBMIT AN APPLICATION. UM, THEN WE WOULD ASK YOU TO, UH, ONCE THE APPLICATION PERIOD CLOSED, TAKE ABOUT A WEEK TO REVIEW THOSE APPLICATIONS ON YOUR OWN SO THAT WHEN WE SET, UH, FOR A COUNCIL MEETING, UH, THE SELECTION OF APPLICATION, UH, THE SELECTION OF APPLICANTS THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO INTERVIEW. SO IF YOU HAD 10 APPLICANTS, YOU COULD LOOK, REVIEW THOSE APPLICATIONS OVER THE COURSE OF A WEEK. YOU WOULD COME TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, KIND OF READY TO, TO DISCUSS WHO YOU WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ON, UH, TO WHAT WOULD BE AN INITIAL APPLICATION PERIOD, UH, THAT WOULD BE HELD AT A COUNCIL MEETING. THAT COULD BE DONE IN ONE, ONE MEETING. IF THERE ARE A SMALL NUMBER, OR I THINK YOU COULD AT LEAST PROBABLY MANAGE THAT OVER THE COURSE OF, OF OVER TWO WEEKS. SUBSEQUENT TO THAT, UM, YOU WOULD, UH, FOLLOW UP WITH A MEETING TO HAVE DELIBERATIONS AND ANNOUNCE WHAT I WOULD CALL FINALIST. SO IT COULD BE POTENTIALLY TWO OR THREE CANDIDATES. UH, YOU WOULD, UH, FOLLOW THAT UP WITH FINALIST INTERVIEWS AND THEN ULTIMATELY, UH, YOU WOULD COME BACK AND DELIBERATE AND ANNOUNCE YOUR APPOINTMENT. UM, AND THEN ULTIMATELY, OF COURSE, YOU HAVE TO VOTE ON THAT APPOINTMENT. THEN THERE WOULD BE A SWEARING IN CEREMONY. UM, THIS IS A 12 WEEK PROCESS. UM, OBVIOUSLY, UM, I WAS QUEUING OFF OF, UH, YOUR CITY ATTORNEY'S ADVICE THAT YOU DO THIS IN ABOUT 120 DAYS OR 17 WEEKS. SO AGAIN, DEPENDING ON IF WE HAVE HOLIDAY, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, AND AGAIN, THIS WHOLE TIMETABLE IS SUBJECT TO SEVERAL THINGS. I MEAN, IT COULD BE THE NUMBER OF APPLICANTS, IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE NUMBER OF, UH, CANDIDATES YOU WANT TO INTERVIEW. IT COULD BE WE HAVE SUMMER BREAKS, WE HAVE THANKSGIVING BREAK, WE HAVE CHRISTMAS BREAK. AND SO I WANTED TO BUILD A PROCESS OF ABOUT 12 WEEKS TO GIVE YOU ABOUT A FIVE WEEK CUSHION THAT IF THERE WAS ANYTHING THAT WAS KIND OF OUT OF THE ORDINARY, YOU COULD DEAL WITH IT THEN. UM, YOU KNOW, THE WAY IT'S PROPOSED IS THAT ALL THE COUNCIL DISCUSSION, THE INTERVIEWS AND THE DELIBERATION WOULD TAKE PLACE IN A REGULAR OR A SPECIAL CALL COUNCIL MEETING. SO THAT IMPLIES THAT THAT COUNCIL MEETING WOULD BE HELD IN THE CHAMBER AND WOULD BE BROADCAST, UH, RESIDENTS. UM, I KNOW THIS WAS IMPORTANT TO TO SEVERAL OF YOU. UM, AS YOU GO BACK AND YOU LOOK AT THE PROCESS, RESIDENTS WOULD HAVE, UM, MY COUNT FROM THE, THE TIME THE FIRST APPLICANTS, UM, WERE SCHEDULED TO BE INTERVIEWED AT LEAST FIVE WEEKS TO COME DOWN IN A VISITOR SPEC, UH, SECTION AND MAKE COMMENTS. AND THEN OF COURSE, THROUGHOUT THAT WHOLE PROCESS, THEY COULD PROVIDE YOU COMMENTS, UM, VIA EMAIL OR PHONE CALL, HOWEVER. AND SO I THINK THIS, THIS BUILDS IN A, A REALLY GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR, UM, SORRY FOR RESIDENTS TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK. AND THEN OF COURSE, UM, THE ONLY OTHER THING I'LL MENTION IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CANDIDATE, THE CANDIDATES WOULD HAVE TO MEET THE QUALIFICATIONS THAT ARE IN THE CHARTER AND THEN THEY WOULD BE APPOINTED TO, UH, JUST THE REMAINDER OF THE UNEXPIRED TERM. AND SO, AGAIN, NOT THAT DIFFERENT, UM, THAN, UH, YOUR BOARD AND COMMISSION PROCESS. UH, PROBABLY THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE IS THAT PROPOSING THAT WE WOULD DO THIS IN A, AGAIN, A A REGULAR OR SPECIAL CALLED MEETING. AND SO THEREFORE, UM, YOU WOULD HAVE, UH, THOSE, UH, AGAIN, THE DELIBERATIONS AND THE INTERVIEWS AND ULTIMATELY, UM, YOUR SELECTION WOULD BE A PART OF A, A MEETING SETTING LIKE THIS WHERE IT WOULD BE, UH, FILL, UH, VIDEOED AND THEN BROADCAST. UM, SO VERY QUICK AND EASY, UH, UH, UH, PRESENTATION. I, I'D BE CURIOUS IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS FOR CLARIFICATION ON WHAT WE'RE SEEING HERE. WE CAN STILL DEBATE IT OR DISCUSS IT MORE IN A FUTURE MEETING IF WE HAVE REALLY HEAVY CONCERNS OR ISSUES WITH THIS PROCESS. BUT ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? I THINK THAT LOOKS GOOD. I THINK LOOKS GOOD. I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. I THINK ONE THING TO ADD TO THE LIST FOR CONSIDERATION IS REQUIRING SUBMISSION OF, UM, THE PERSONAL FINANCIAL STATEMENT. JUST THAT'S A REQUIREMENT ONCE YOU GET ON COUNCIL. AND SO I THINK THAT IF YOU'RE A CANDIDATE, YOU, YOU SHOULD BE WILLING TO SORT OF OPEN THAT UP, UH, AS WELL. YEAH, MAYOR, I, I JUST, UM, THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT. 'CAUSE I, THERE WAS ONE OTHER POINT I I FAILED TO MENTION. UM, LIKE YOUR BOARD AND COMMISSION MEMBERS. UM, I BUILT IN TIME IN HERE TO DO, UH, BACKGROUND. I'M SORRY, THE BACKGROUND. YES, SIR. YEAH. SO THAT WOULD OCCUR, UH, AS SOON AS YOU SELECTED YOUR, UM, YOUR INITIAL APPLICANTS TO BE INTERVIEWED, WE WOULD GO AHEAD AND, AND USE THE SAME PROCESS THAT WE USE FOR BOARD COMMISSIONS. SO, UH, COUNCILWOMAN JUSTICE AT THAT TIME, I COULD ASK HIM TO FILL OUT THE, UH, FINANCIAL DISCLOSURE AS WELL. I MEAN, I WOULD, I WOULD ARGUE THAT IF YOU'RE APPLYING, YOU'RE WILLING TO DO IT UPFRONT. LIKE I WOULD REQUIRE IT WITH THE APPLICATION WITH EVERYONE. OKAY. BECAUSE I THINK THAT THAT'S GONNA LEAD TO SERIOUS CANDIDATES FROM THE GET GO. SO THAT, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST. SO JUST A POINT CLARIFICATION THE FINANCIAL STATEMENT, OR DO YOU ALSO WANNA DO THE BACKGROUND CHECK ON EVERYONE? UH, I, I, I, YEAH, FOR ME, I, I JUST THINK THE PERSONAL FINANCIAL STATEMENT, I MEAN, YOU COULD JUST HAUL OFF AND FILE A BARE BONES APPLICATION JUST 'CAUSE YOU'RE CURIOUS, BUT I THINK REQUIRING FILING THE PERSONAL FINANCIAL STATEMENT WOULD, WOULD INDICATE A SERIOUSNESS UP FRONT. GOT IT. WE'LL MAKE THAT PART OF THE APPLICATION PROCESS [03:50:01] AND THEN MAYBE ONLY DO THE BACKGROUND CHECKS ON THOSE THAT YOU MOVE FORWARD, THAT WE MOVE FORWARD JUST BECAUSE THERE IS A COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. AND, AND THERE THAT MIGHT BE OPEN FOR US TO MAYBE DISCUSS AS WELL. 'CAUSE WE'RE CREATING A, A RULE THAT WE DON'T HAVE FOR OUR REGULAR APPLICANTS. I MEAN, SO WE DON'T, WE DON'T EVEN FILL THOSE OUT UNTIL SOMETIME AFTER WE GET ELECTED. I'M NOT SUGGESTING IT'S RIGHT OR WRONG, I'M JUST SAYING IT IS A HURDLE THAT'S TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE EVEN HAVE TO DO. BUT IT IS A, IT'S A GOOD POINT TO BRING UP AND FOR US TO DISCUSS. I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE SOME DISCUSSION. YEAH. OUR DISCUSSION. PERFECT. WE'LL DISCUSS THIS IN ANOTHER MEETING. UH, COUNCILMAN BARRIOS, I THINK YOU HAD YOUR LIGHT ON NEXT. YEAH. UM, I WOULD HAVE SOME SIMILAR QUESTIONS THERE, MAYOR. UH, AS FAR AS WHETHER THAT'S RIGHT AND I'D LIKE TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION FURTHER DOWN. STAFF I THINK IS A GREAT STARTING POINT. UH, I'M GONNA HAVE SOME QUESTIONS AROUND, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THIS SELECTION OF APPLICANT, YOU KNOW, STEP NUMBER FOUR, SELECTION OF APPLICANTS TO BE INTERVIEWED. WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? ARE WE ALL BRINGING TWO? IS THAT, YOU KNOW, IS THE PERSON, UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE PERSON WHO WOULD BE STEPPING DOWN AS PART OF ALL OF THAT EXCEPT THE FINAL VOTE. YOU KNOW, ARE WE GONNA CODIFY THAT INTO WHAT WE'RE CREATING HERE? OBVIOUSLY THAT'S ALREADY IN THE CHARTER AND UM, SO I GUESS WE DON'T HAVE TO DOUBLE CODIFY THAT. YEAH, THE COUNCILMAN BARR IS DISAPPOINTED. I MEAN MY, AGAIN, MY, MY, MY RATIONALE HERE IS TO BUILD IN FLEXIBILITY. IF YOU HAVE THREE APPLICANTS, YOU'RE NOT ALL GONNA BRING TWO. SO I, I I THINK THIS, THAT, YOU KNOW, TRY TO CREATE AN ORDER OR A, A PROCESS. I THINK THAT DEPENDING ON THE UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCES AROUND, UM, THAT PARTICULAR APPOINTMENT, UH, RESPONSIBILITY THAT YOU HAVE, THOSE MAY BE THINGS THAT YOU WOULD WANNA DECIDE AT THAT TIME, JUST DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF APPLICANTS AND THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT YOU HAVE TO WORK WITH. FOR INSTANCE, I THINK, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER BROUGHT UP THAT WE CAN AGAIN, DISCUSS IN A FUTURE THING, BUT MAYBE, MAYBE SOME OF THESE TWO OR THREE IDEAS ARE JUST THINGS WE CAN CAPTURE FOR THE FUTURE MEETING. SURE. TO DIVE DEEPER. BUT I THINK THAT THAT POINT IS A GOOD ONE, WHICH IS DOES THE RESIGNING PERSON, ASSUMING THAT THERE AREN'T, I DON'T KNOW, NEFARIOUS SITUATIONS WITH THE RESIGNATION, ARE THEY INVOLVED ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THAT LAST BULLET POINT, WHICH IS WHEN THE COUNCIL VOTE HAPPENS, UH, OR ARE THEY NOT INVOLVED IN ANY OF IT AT ALL? AND SO THAT, THAT MAY BE A DISCUSSION THAT WE NEED TO HAVE AS WELL. YEAH. UM, AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS CODIFIED IN THIS CITY CHARTER, BUT OBVIOUSLY THE PART IS, BUT THE REST OF IT I THINK WAS WHAT YOU'RE CONCERNED WITH. RIGHT, RIGHT. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING AS WELL. OKAY. UM, I THINK, AGAIN, WE SHOULD CONTINUE THIS DISCUSSION. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO JUST MOTION, DO WE NEED A TABLE TO NO, NO. WE'RE, THERE'S NO TABLING, THERE'S NO, WE, I DON'T THINK THERE WAS EVEN GONNA NECESSARILY BE A VOTE AS MUCH AS THE HEDGE. ABSOLUTELY. THIS, THIS WAS, IF THIS LOOKS LIKE A GOOD PROCESS, GIVE, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS IS GOOD FEEDBACK. WE CAN CONTINUE TO REFINE IT AND, AND ADD THE, UM, QUESTIONS AND, AND, AND BRING BACK ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATIONS. BUT JUST AS A, AS AN OVERALL PROCESS, DOES THAT LOOK ABOUT LIKE YOU, HOW YOU WOULD WANNA APPROACH IT? I PERSONALLY, YES, IT LOOKS GOOD. I'D LIKE TO CHEW ON THIS A LITTLE BIT AND COME BACK. LET, LET'S DO THAT WHEN IT'S NOT 10 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT. YEAH. I, I, UH, IT BEING 10 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT IS A WHOLE OTHER DISCUSSION THAT WE OUGHT TO CONSIDER AT SOME POINT, UH, AS TO HOW WE GOT TO 10 O'CLOCK. BUT I, I WANTED TO AT LEAST WET OUR APPETITE WITH THIS AND WE CAN ALWAYS BRING THIS BACK UP, UH, IN, IN A FUTURE MEETING. AND THIS AT LEAST GIVES US A FIRST LOOK SO WE CAN AT LEAST START THINKING TOWARDS IT. UM, ALRIGHT. IF IT'S OKAY WITH, UH, EVERYBODY, [9. CONSENT AGENDA] WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. UH, MAYOR PRO TIMM HUTCHIN RIDER MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PUBLISHED AND COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE. SECOND. ALRIGHT, WE GOT A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHIN, WRITER SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY REPORT ON ITEMS [10. REPORT ON ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST ] AT COMMUNITY INTEREST. ANYONE DO ANYTHING FUN THIS WEEK THAT THEY WANNA TALK ABOUT? UM, I KNOW IT'S 10 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT, BUT I HAVE TO TALK ABOUT HOW MANY SYNCOPATED LADIES WERE LAST NIGHT. IF YOU WEREN'T AT THE ICEMAN, YOU MISSED OUT, BECAUSE THAT'S ONE OF MY FAVORITE PROGRAMS I'VE EVER SEEN. AND SHOUT OUT TO ALLY BECAUSE IT WAS THE PERFECT PROGRAM FOR INTERNATIONAL WOMEN'S DAY. IT WAS JUST ALL ABOUT, UH, FEMALE EMPOWERMENT AND, UM, JUST HOW THEY'RE SORT OF BREAKING THE, THE GLASS CEILING OF, OF TAP DANCE, HOW IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A MALE DOMINATED FIELD AND, AND THEY'RE JUST, THEY WERE REALLY, REALLY, REALLY INCREDIBLE AND I WAS SUPER IMPRESSED. YEP. UH, YES. COUNCIL MEMBER CORCORAN. YEP. SIMILARLY, UH, SOME OF US HAD A GREAT TIME AT THE GREAT AMERICAN CROONERS ON FRIDAY AS WELL. JUST AWESOME, AWESOME. I PROGRAMMING. YEAH. UM, I, I WILL ADD TO THAT, THAT, UH, WE KIND OF WERE WANDERING AROUND BACKSTAGE OR BETWEEN THE TWO STAGES AND, UM, HAD A REALLY RARE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE REHEARSAL OF THE RSO FROM BACKSTAGE AND, AND GOT, UH, AN UNUSUAL OPPORTUNITY TO, TO THANK THEM AND, AND, UM, UH, OUR CITY MANAGER, YOU KNOW, HAD I THOUGHT A, A TOUCHING, UH, A BIT OF FEEDBACK FOR THEM ON, ON WHAT AN IM IMPACT THEY MAKE AS A CITY, UH, FOR OUR CITY. AND, AND IT WAS JUST AN HONOR TO BE ABLE TO, UM, [03:55:01] TO SEE THAT BOTH IN REHEARSAL AND THEN THE, THE FOLLOWING NIGHT, UH, AT THE RSO EVENT. UM, THERE WERE SO MANY OTHER COOL THINGS GOING ON. I, I WILL POINT OUT BECAUSE COUNCIL MEMBER BARRIOS WAS THERE AS WELL. UM, THERE WAS THE RISD ACADEMY CAREER DAY, WHERE COUNCIL MEMBER BARRIOS, UH, I THINK PROBABLY SPENT SOME TIME SHARING ALL THE GREAT THINGS ABOUT HIS CAREER. AND I GOT A CHANCE TO DO THE SAME, UH, WITH I THINK, UH, FOURTH GRADERS IN MY CASE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD FIFTH GRADERS, UH, BUT IT WAS A, IT WAS A REALLY GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO MEET, UH, SOME OF OUR YOUNG PEOPLE AROUND, UM, THE RICHARDSON SCHOOLS. SO IF THERE ISN'T ANY OTHER ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST WITH NO FURTHER BUSINESS, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED AT 9:55 PM. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.