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[4. Zoning File 26-03 — Casa Loma: Consider and act on a request for a Special Permit for a Private University located within an existing approximately 79,400-square-foot multi-tenant office building on an approximately 5.1-acre lot addressed as 1202 Richardson Drive, on the east side of Richardson Drive, the south side of Monte Blaine Lane, and west of N. Central Expressway, and zoned O-M Office District. Owner: Dallas North Office LLC. Staff: Christine Ross]
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IMAGING, PHYSICAL THERAPY AND BUSINESS AND HEALTHCARE MANAGEMENT.
THEY HAVE THREE EXISTING LOCATIONS ACROSS THE COUNTRY, AND THIS IS THEIR FIRST LOCATION IN TEXAS.
THE APPROXIMATE ENROLLMENT AMOUNT IS 450 STUDENTS SUPPORTED BY 30 STAFF MEMBERS, AND THE ESTIMATED DAILY ONSITE POPULATION IS 150 STUDENTS.
SO THESE PHOTOS SHOW THE SOUTH AND EAST ELEVATION BOTH TAKEN FROM THE PARKING LOT AND HERE ARE THE WEST AND NORTH ELEVATIONS, AND THESE ARE TAKEN FROM RICHARDSON DRIVE AND MOT BLAIN LANE, RESPECTIVELY.
THE ENVISION RICHARDSON PLAN DESIGNATES THIS AREA AS COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL, AND A PUBLIC SLASH INSTITUTIONAL FACILITY IS IDENTIFIED AS A SECONDARY USE.
THEREFORE, THE REQUESTED USE ALIGNS WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE
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PLAN.FINALLY, SHOULD THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION ACCEPT THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST TONIGHT? THERE ARE THREE CONDITIONS ASSOCIATED.
THE FIRST MOTION LIMITS THE OPERATOR, UM, AND REQUIRES CONFORMANCE WITH THE CONCEPT PLAN.
THE SECOND CONDITION, UM, STATES TERMS FOR EXPIRATION AND TERMINATION, AND THE THIRD CONDITION DESIGNATES THE PARKING RATIO AS ONE FOR EVERY 100 SQUARE FEET OF CLASSROOM AREA.
THE APPLICANT IS HERE TONIGHT AND THEY HAVE PREPARED A PRESENTATION, UM, BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE THAT.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. ROSS OR STAFF? YES, MR. ROBERTS.
THERE'S PLENTY OF PARKING, BUT I WAS WONDERING, WAS A TRAFFIC STUDY DONE ON THIS? YES, A, UM, TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WAS PROVIDED BY, UM, KIMLEY HORN, AND THEY ANTICIPATED THAT THERE WOULD BE A VERY MINIMAL IMPACT ON SURROUNDING LAND USES, UH, MOSTLY RELATED TO THE HYBRID NATURE OF THE BUSINESS, UM, AND THE FACT THAT THERE WOULD BE A LIMITED NUMBER OF STUDENTS AND STAFF LOCATED ON ONSITE AT ANY GIVEN TIME.
AND WE ALSO DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS OR CORRESPONDENCE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MR. VICE CHAIRMAN, DO YOU HAVE ANY INSIGHTS? UM, SO THERE'S ONE OF THE FLOORS, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, THAT'S NOT THEM.
UM, SO WHAT ARE THE, WHAT ARE THOSE, WHAT'S THAT TENANT PROFILE LOOK LIKE? UM, TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE COHABITATION OF WHOEVER'S IN THAT BUILDING.
UM, AS FAR AS I'M AWARE, THEY'RE JUST, THERE'S A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT OFFICE TENANTS, UM, CURRENTLY OCCUPYING THE SPACE.
UM, OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I DON'T HAVE THE, THE NAMES OR THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF EACH OF THOSE.
UM, BUT WE COULD CERTAINLY LOOK INTO THAT WITH BUILDING INSPECTORS DEPARTMENT.
I'M JUST, THE APPLICANT MAY KNOW ALSO, I'LL ASK THE QUESTION THERE, OR THEY CAN JUST PRESENT IT IN THEIR PRESENTATION.
UM, SO IF I'M UNDERSTANDING THE USAGE CASE, RIGHT? SO THIS IS A, A, A COLLEGE, UM, AND, AND SO IT'S A, A COLLEGE THAT, UH, HAS NURSING, UH, AS THE SORT OF PRIMARY USAGE CASE.
AND SO THEN I'M THINKING ABOUT WEST COAST UNIVERSITY.
UM, AND SO NOW I'M THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, DOES THIS BUILDING, UH, AND MAY, THIS MAY BE AN APPLICANT QUESTION, BUT I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT, UM, I THINK WE PROBABLY ALWAYS NEED MORE NURSES, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT FOR A FACT.
UM, SO NOW I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT IS THERE A, IS THERE TOO MANY COLLEGES IN RICHARDSON FOR NURSING? UM, I'M JUST WANTING TO GET YOUR CONTEXT, OR I DON'T KNOW IF THAT QUESTION'S EVEN A QUESTION, BUT I'M JUST SENSITIVE TO THE FACT THAT THERE'S THIS MONSTER SCHOOL, UM, THAT'S NOT VERY FAR AWAY, THAT IS, UH, IT FEELS LIKE IS THE SAME USAGE CASE.
YEAH, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT, UM, NURSING AND MEDICAL SCHOOLS IN, IN THE CITY.
I KNOW THAT GALEN COLLEGE OF NURSING IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE.
UM, YEAH, I I THINK PERHAPS THE APPLICANT COULD MAYBE ANSWER MORE OF WHY THEY CHOSE THIS SPECIFIC LOCATION.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? STAFF? OKAY, THANK YOU.
UH, WOULD ASK THE APPLICANT PLEASE COME FORWARD, THEN JUST CLICK OH, OKAY.
HEY, EVERYBODY, MY NAME IS SKY TEBEAU WITH MISSION RIDGE CONSULTANTS.
UH, AS OF LAST WEEK, OUR, OUR, UM, ADDRESS IS 1900 FURMAN DRIVE, JUST DOWN THE ROAD HERE IN, UH, RICHARDSON, TEXAS.
WE JUST OPENED UP OUR OFFICES HERE, UH, AND EXCITED TO BE HERE.
UH, WE'RE ALSO REPRESENTING OF OBVIOUSLY COSTA LOMA COLLEGE.
WITH THIS REQUEST, I THINK CHRISTINE DID A FANTASTIC JOB DESCRIBING THE SITE.
UM, AGAIN, IT'S ABOUT A FIVE ACRE, UH, SITE EXISTING OFFICE BUILDING, AS WAS SHOWN IN THE, UH, TOP RIGHT PHOTO, UH, ABOUT 80,000 SQUARE FEET FOR THE ENTIRE STRUCTURE WITH SURROUNDING USES OF AUTO SALES, RELIGIOUS INSTITUTION AND OFFICE.
AND A LITTLE BIT OF, UH, LEMME GO BACK A LITTLE BIT OF, UH, RESIDENTIAL TO THE WEST AS WELL.
SO, AS MENTIONED, OUR PROPOSED USE IS FOR A PRIVATE UNIVERSITY, UH, LOOKING TO, UH, OCCUPY APPROXIMATELY 30 1065 SQUARE FEET OF THE EXISTING OFFICE BUILDING, UH, WITH THE REMAINING 48,335 SQUARE FEET TO REMAIN AS OFFICE.
THE AMOUNT OF, UH, OFFICE TENANTS THAT ARE THERE, WE'RE NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT THAT VACANCY ENTAILS OR THE, UH, UH, OCCUPANCY ENTAILS, BUT IT IS OFFICE USER.
SO BASICALLY PROFESSIONAL OFFICE, UH, FOR THE REMAINING SPACE.
UH, WE'RE PRO PROPOSING, NO EXTERIOR SITE MODIFICATIONS.
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IT'S AN INDOOR ONLY USE, UH, WITH DAYTIME HOURS THAT CHRISTINE DISPLAYED, UH, STRUCTURED CLASS SCHEDULES, STAGGERED ATTENDANCE, AND APPROXIMATELY 180, UH, PERSON DAILY POPULATION, UM, THAT STAGGERED ATTENDANCE HAS TO DO WITH, UH, CLASS TIMES, UH, DIFFERENT HOURS, UH, ONLINE STUDENTS, THAT KIND OF THING.SO, CASAL LOMA COLLEGE, THEY WERE ESTABLISHED IN 1966, AN ACCREDITED NONPROFIT POST-SECONDARY INSTITUTION.
UM, THEY OFFER ACCELERATED HYBRID PROGRAMS AGAIN, UH, IN PERSON ONLINE CLASSES, UH, WITH INSTRUCTION, HANDS-ON, LAB SIMULATION TRAINING.
THE PROGRAMS INCLUDE NURSING, MEDICAL IMAGING, UH, PHYSICAL THERAPY RELATED, UH, FIELDS, HEALTHCARE ADMINISTRATION AND BUSINESS.
SO, UH, IT MAY NOT JUST BE NURSES THAT ARE BEING, UM, EDUCATED HERE.
YOU MAY HAVE A, UH, UH, A GOAL TO BE IN HEALTHCARE ADMINISTRATION AND IN THE BUSINESS ASPECTS OF A, OF A HOSPITAL.
SO YOU CAN ALSO COME TO THIS COLLEGE AND LEARN, UH, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS AS WELL.
UH, AND AS CHRISTINE TOUCHED ON, UH, WE HAVE EXISTING CAMPUSES IN CALIFORNIA, TENNESSEE, AND COLORADO.
SO THE PHASING PLAN, IT'S A LITTLE, IT GETS A LITTLE, UH, UH, NEBULOUS.
I, I GUESS YOU COULD SAY WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT THE TWO YEAR BUILD OUT IS GONNA ENTAIL.
BUT, UH, ESSENTIALLY IT'S, IT'S FOR THE FOURTH FLOOR, UH, TAKING THE ENTIRE 20,000 AND SOME CHANGE SQUARE FEET OF THE FOURTH FLOOR AND CONVERTING THAT INTO, UH, LABS AND EDUCATIONAL, UH, ROOMS AS WELL, UH, ALONG WITH STORAGE, HALLWAYS, BATHROOMS, THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
SO, UH, THE FIRST TWO YEARS IS GONNA BE, UH, MAINLY OFFICE, UH, ADMINISTRATIVE USES ON THE FIRST AND SECOND FLOORS.
UM, IN THE FIRST YEAR, UH, YOU'LL HAVE, UH, CLASSROOMS KIND OF, UH, WHAT DO THEY CALL 'EM? UM, KIND OF SET UP CLASSROOMS FOR, UH, STUDENTS COMING IN AND TAKING TOURS.
YOU CAN, THEY CAN BASICALLY SEE, OH, THIS IS THE ENVIRONMENT THAT I'LL BE LEARNING IN.
AS THE, UH, OFFICIAL PROGRAM STARTS TO RELEASE AND LAUNCH, UH, PHASE TWO, IT GETS A LITTLE BIT MORE INVOLVED WITH ADDITIONAL CLASSROOMS AND LABS BEING ADDED MAINLY ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
AND THEN PHASE THREE FROM JULY, 2027 TO 2028, THAT'S A FULL BUILD OUT.
UH, THAT'S ABOUT 20,000 SQUARE FEET ON THE FOURTH FLOOR FOR, UH, CLASSROOMS, UH, A LIBRARY AND A COMMON AREA AS WELL AS LABS.
UH, THE SECOND FLOOR WILL HAVE CLASSROOMS, UH, TWO LECTURE ROOMS, UH, ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
AND THE FIRST FLOOR WILL BE DEDICATED TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE.
AND WE DID DO A, A TRAFFIC, IT WAS A TRIP GENERATION MEMO THAT WE DID WITH, UH, KIMLEY HORN.
IT DETERMINED A NET INCREASE, UH, IS GONNA BE PRETTY MINIMAL, UH, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU RELATE THAT TO AN OFFICE, UH, USE WITH 521 ADDITIONAL DAILY TRIPS.
AGAIN, THIS IS SPREAD OUT THROUGHOUT THE DAY WITH, UH, 50 ADDITIONAL AM AND PM PEAK HOUR TRIPS BEING ADDED AS WELL IN THE AREA.
UH, AGAIN, THAT IS, UH, COMPARABLE TO TYPICAL OFFICE TRAFFIC PATTERNS.
UH, IT'S DISTRIBUTED THROUGHOUT THE DAY DUE TO THE STAGGERED CLASS SCHEDULES.
YOU, YOU DON'T HAVE CLASS CLASSES AT THE SAME TIME AS YOUR CLASSMATES NECESSARILY.
UH, SO YOU MAY JUST BE UP ON CAMPUS IN THE MORNING OR THE AFTERNOON.
A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH, JUST KIND OF DEPENDS.
UH, YOU MAY BE ONLINE, UH, THAT KIND OF THING.
UH, IT DETERMINED IN REGARD TO THE SURROUNDING ROADWAY NETWORK THAT, UH, BASICALLY THE ROADS WILL CONTINUE TO OPERATE IN AN ACCEPTABLE CAPACITY, UH, WHICH WILL REQUIRE NO, UH, OFFSITE IMPROVEMENTS, UM, AS IT'LL BE A, A MINIMAL, UH, IMPACT ON THE ROADWAY NETWORK.
AND IT TOUCHES ON THE, UH, PARKING DEMAND, WHICH WAS COVERED BY CHRISTINE AS WELL.
UH, THE, THE SITE WILL STILL BE, UH, OVER PARKED EVEN WHEN YOU CONSIDER, UH, FULL OCCUPANCY OF THE REMAINING 49,000 SQUARE FEET FOR, FOR OFFICE, UH, PUBLIC OUTREACH.
OF COURSE, THIS IS SOMETHING WE DO.
STAFF DID A GREAT JOB AND OUR VERY, UH, INITIAL CONVERSATION SAYING, HEY, MAKE SURE YOU TALK TO THESE PEOPLE, UH, PROVIDED US WITH THE, UH, EMAIL OF THE NORTH RICH, UH, HOA PRESIDENT.
UH, WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY COMMENTS.
UH, WE ALSO SENT LETTERS TO THE, UH, EVERY, UH, UH, PROPERTY WITHIN 200, UH, FEET OF THE, OF THE SITE, UH, AS WELL AS THE RESIDENTIAL, UH, HOMEOWNERS TO THE WEST WITHIN 200 FEET.
AND WE DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY, UH, RESPONSES TO THOSE LETTERS.
AND THEN WE ALSO, UH, CORRESPONDED WITH, UH, DISTRICT COUNCIL MEMBER BARRIOS, WHO LOOKED AT OUR MATERIALS, DIDN'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS.
THAT WAS BASICALLY HIS FEEDBACK.
UH, SO COMPATIBILITY WITH FUTURE LANDING PLAN, BASICALLY COMP PLAN.
SO, UH, JUST LIKE CHRISTINE SAID, WE ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE SECONDARY, UH, PLACE TYPE OR SECONDARY USE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL PLACE TYPE OF, UH, INSTITUTIONAL USE.
UM, IT'S A, IT REPRESENTS A CONTEXT APPROPRIATE ADAPTIVE REUSE OF EXISTING OFFICE BUILDING, WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT.
I MEAN, WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENED REALLY SINCE COVID OFFICE IS IN A, UH, TRANSITION.
I'D JUST SAY IT'S IN A VERY WEIRD SPOT RIGHT NOW, UH, WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING FOR, UH, USERS TO UTILIZE THIS VACANT SPACE THAT'S ALL AROUND THE METROPLEX.
AND SO, SO THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF ONE OF THOSE.
IT SUPPORTS THE, UH, COMP PLAN, GOALS FOR WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AND HIGHER EDUCATION OPPORTUNITIES, UH, EXPANDING ACCESS TO CAREER FOCUSED TRAINING, HEALTHCARE,
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AND OTHER RELATED TECHNICAL FIELDS.UH, QUESTION ABOUT THE DEMAND CAME UP, UM, BEFORE THIS PRESENTATION.
AND, AND, UH, YES, THERE'S A HIGH NEED IN THIS MARKET FOR ADDITIONAL NURSING AND HEALTHCARE PROFESSIONALS.
UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN A VERY LARGE MARKET HERE, UH, WITH A VERY LARGE POPULATION OF, UH, UH, BASICALLY BOOMERS THAT ARE, ARE GETTING TO THAT PHASE WHERE THEY NEED ADDITIONAL HELP.
SO THIS, UH, TRAINS FOLKS TO HELP OUT WITH THAT, I GUESS WHAT WILL BE, AND CONTINUES TO BE A GROWING SUPPLY WHERE A DEMAND IS NEEDED, UH, TO BE MADE OR TO BE MET.
AND THIS FUNCTION IS A LOW IMPACT, DAYTIME USE, CONSISTENT WITH SURROUNDING OFFICE AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
I APPRECIATE IT AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
MR. VICE CHAIRMAN, YOU HAD SOME QUESTIONS YOU WANTED TO, I MEAN, YOU ANSWERED, ANSWERED MOST OF THEM.
UM, AND SO, UM, WITHOUT GETTING INTO TOO MUCH OF YOUR PROPRIETARY, YOU KNOW, CAN YOU GIVE US LEASE TERMS? ARE WE TALKING, IS THIS A 10 YEAR LEASE? IS THIS, UM, A SENSE OF HOW LONG YOU'RE THINKING? YEAH, I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY HOW LONG THE LEASE IS, BUT THE TWO YEAR RAMP UP, I MEAN, YEAH, AT LEAST, UH, 10 YEARS TO BE THERE, BUT I CAN GET THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU AS FAR AS WHAT THE LEASE, UH, TERM IS, AS FAR AS HOW LONG, AND IF I UNDERSTOOD THE PHASES.
SO THERE, THERE IS EDUCATION GOING ON IN PHASE ONE.
IT'S REALLY AT PHASE THREE WHERE YOU HAVE, UM, YOUR FACILITIES, I GUESS, RETROFIT FOR, I DON'T KNOW, HOSPITAL LIKE CONDITIONS FOR, YOU KNOW, MORE OF A HANDS-ON EXPERIENCE.
IS THAT THE WAY TO THINK ABOUT THAT? THAT'S RIGHT.
THERE WOULD TEMPORARILY BE A MOCKUP, UH, TECH LAB SPACES, YOU KNOW, TO BE USED, UH, AS WE'RE GETTING THE FULL BUILD OUT.
BUT BY, UH, 2028, YEAH, IT'LL BE A FULL ON, UH, CLASSROOMS, UH, TECH LABS, LIBRARY, LECTURE HALLS, THAT KIND OF THING.
UH, BUT IN THE INTERIM, YEAH, IT'S, IT'S KIND OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE, UH, AREA IS GONNA BE ESTABLISHED AND THEN, YEAH, THE SMALL CLASSROOMS, UH, BY THE, UH, END OF THE, UH, FIRST YEAR, UH, WITH THE KIND OF MOCKUP SPACES IN BETWEEN FOR, UH, STUDENTS COMING IN TO COME AND, UH, BE EDUCATED AT THE FACILITY.
UH, YOU MENTIONED THAT MISSION RIDGE TOOK OFFICE SPACE OVER ON FURMAN MA, MA'AM.
AND I'M WONDERING IF THAT'S TEMPORARY TO GET THROUGH THE PROJECT COMPLETION IN 2028, OR IS RICHARDSON KIND OF AN OPPORTUNITY AREA FOR YOU? ARE YOU EXPANDING? NO, WE REPRESENT COST LOMA.
SO MISSION RIDGE, WE OWN BUSINESS.
WE ARE OPEN AND FOR BUSINESS ALLEN RICHARDSON, SO AS OUR OWN, AS OUR OWN FOLKS, OUR OWN ENTITY.
WHAT MINUS THE COSTAL LOMA EXAMPLE, WHAT ELSE DO YOU DO OR REPRESENTS? OH, UM, WE DO PERMITTING, UH, RIGHT HERE, ENTITLEMENTS, UH, UH, FOR ZONING.
UM, GOSH, WE DO PLAN DESIGN, ALL KINDS OF THINGS, UH, DEVELOPMENT RELATED.
WELL, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER PURDY.
UM, SO WHEN YOU FLASHED UP THE, UH, DISCIPLINES THAT WILL BE KIND OF DONE IN THE UNIVERSITY, I DID NOT SEE ANYTHING LIKE BLEEDING EDGE, MEDICAL, LIKE NO CYBER GENETICS, NO TISSUE RE-ENGINEERING.
I, IS THERE AN INTENT THERE TO NOT LIKE, DO SOMETHING REALLY ADVANCED MEDICALLY AND KIND OF, KIND OF STICK IN THE, THE NURSING LANE? RIGHT, RIGHT.
COS LOMA IS ASSOCIATED WITH NURSING AND KIND OF THE RELATED PRACTICES, UH, TO THAT, THE RADIOLOGY, UH, MEDICAL IMAGING, AND BASICALLY THOSE KIND OF, UH, I DUNNO WHAT YOU CALL THOSE SERVICES, BUT KINDA EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS AROUND THE DOCTOR THAT SUPPORTS, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY'RE, WHAT THEY'RE MAINLY DOING.
UM, YOUR OTHER THREE LOCATIONS, CALIFORNIA, TENNESSEE, COLORADO.
HOW LONG HAS CAS LOMA BEEN, UM, IN BUSINESS THERE? UH, 1966 OVERALL, AS FAR AS THE OTHER LOCATIONS, I'D HAVE TO GET THAT EXACT INFORMATION, BUT CALIFORNIA WAS, WAS THE STARTING POINT.
UM, AND THEN TENNESSEE AND COLORADO FOLLOWED, UH, THEREAFTER.
UM, AND YEP, THEY'RE FULLY, UH, FULLY BOOKED WITH STUDENTS AND, AND DOING WELL IN THOSE MARKETS.
ANYONE ELSE? CHAIR MARSH? DO, WOULD YOU LIKE US TO FOLLOW UP WITH SOME INFORMATION ABOUT EXISTING TENANTS IN THE BUILDING? DO YOU HAVE, I I, IS THAT A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT OR? OH, I WAS GONNA SAY, OR I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU WANTED US ADDRESS IT.
JUST KIND OF A QUICK SEARCH, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOOGLE, SO IT'S, IT'S BASED UPON WHAT SHOWS UP AND, AND, UM, BUT A FEW BUSINESSES THAT I WAS ABLE TO IDENTIFY IS THERE'S A LAW OFFICE PRESENCE, UM, THAT WAS NOTED.
UM, ALSO PROPER HOA MANAGEMENT, SO APPEARS TO HAVE ANOTHER OFFICE, UM, TED IN THERE.
AND THEN ALSO NIFTY, NIFTY 50 SOLUTIONS WAS NOTED, AND I CHECKED THEIR WEBSITE.
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A DIGITAL MARKETING COMPANY, SO, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE A VARIETY OF OTHER OFFICE USES WITHIN THE BUILDING.COMMISSIONER ROBERTS, THANK YOU, BY THE WAY.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE EVER DRIVEN ON RICHARDSON RECENTLY BETWEEN, UH, WHAT IS THAT? UM, ALL THE WAY UP TO ARAPAHOE, BUT THE STREET IS IN TERRIBLE CONDITION.
I'M JUST WONDERING IF THERE'S ANY PLANS FOR, UM, RENOVATING THE STREETS? YEAH, I'M NOT AWARE, AWARE OF WHAT IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE HAVE SCHEDULED FOR THAT, BUT WE CAN BRING THAT TO OUR PUBLIC SERVICES AND CAPITAL PROJECTS ATTENTION.
WELL, I THINK THE, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WAS IN THE, THE TRIP GENERATION MEMO OR NOT, BUT, UH, I WOULD THINK A PRIMARY ACCESS WOULD BE OFF THAT MOUNT BLAINE, UH, FROM CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY.
FROM SOUTHBOUND OR HARD TO GET TO A RAPID.
I MEAN, YOU COULD HAVE, UM, OFF RICHARDSON, UH, YOU COULD, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN ACCESS, IF YOU WERE LIKE SOUTHBOUND FROM CAMPBELL, YOU CAN TAKE COLLINS TO, TO RICHARDSON.
OR YOU COULD TAKE ARAPAHOE TO RICHARDSON IF YOU WERE COMING IN THAT DIRECTION.
THERE'S SO MUCH ROAD WORK GOING ON AROUND THE CITY, WHETHER THAT WAS ON A PLAN.
I THINK OVERALL, THE, THE, THE TRAFFIC ON RICHARDSON'S PROBABLY PRETTY MINIMAL.
UH, SO DO YOU KNOW IF THERE'S ANY PLANS TO EXPAND THE LOBBY AS PART OF THIS, THE LOBBY OF THE, UH, STRUCTURE? YEAH, THE OFFICE BUILDING, LIKE, UM, YOU'RE TAKING SOME OF THE LEASE SPACE ON THE FIRST FLOOR.
I MEAN, TO ME, THE, THE LOBBY SEEMED PRETTY SMALL.
YEAH, NO, THERE'S NO PLAN TO REALLY CHANGE THE LOBBY.
UM, OH GOSH, I'D HAVE TO FROM MEMORY, THE FLOOR AREA, I WANNA SAY, WHEN YOU WALK IN TO FLIP THE BUILDING IN MY MIND HERE, UH, THE OFFICE AREA WOULD BE ON THE LEFT, UH, IN THE EXISTING KIND OF AREA THAT'S THERE TO THE LEFT OF THE LOBBY, BASICALLY.
UM, AND, UM, UH, AS FAR AS, IT SEEMED LIKE THERE WAS A STAIRWELL TO THE KIND, NOT A STAIRWELL, BUT MORE OF A, LIKE AN OPEN STAIRWAY TO THE SECOND FLOOR.
IT'S KIND OF AN ATRIUM TYPE DEAL.
YEAH, THAT WOULD JUST REMAIN AS IS.
UM, AND AS FAR AS THE FOURTH FLOOR, SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S, YOU HAVE THE ENTIRE FOURTH FLOOR.
UM, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE ELEVATOR CAPACITY IS? I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CAPACITY IS AS FAR AS PEOPLE GOING IN AT ONE TIME.
UH, I DON'T KNOW THAT INFORMATION.
THAT WOULD AS STAFF, DID Y'ALL LOOK AT THAT AT ALL? NO, THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY A LAND USE CONSIDERATION.
SO ANY INTERIOR REVIEWS REGARDING, UM, ELEVATOR CAPACITIES, SO THINGS OF THAT NATURE WOULD BE REVIEWED AS PART OF THE BUILDING PERMITTING, UM, SHOULD ANY RENOVATIONS BE OCCURRING.
BUT THAT'S NOT ONLY INDUCED CONSIDERATION.
YEAH, JUST, UH, I'M FAMILIAR WITH A FEW OTHER OFFICE BUILDINGS THAT ARE MULTI-TENANT AND INCLUDED A UNIVERSITY, AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE CHOKE POINTS, UH, WAS THE, UM, WAS THE ELEVATORS.
UH, WHEN YOU HAVE EVERYBODY SHOWING UP, STUDENTS SHOWING UP, YOU KNOW, FOR A SPECIFIC CLASS TIME AND IF THERE'S, YOU KNOW, AND THEY'RE ON AN UPPER FLOOR, SO THEY DEPENDED ON THE ELEVATORS TO, TO GET UP AND DOWN.
SO IT SOMETIMES GET CROWDED IF YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH CAPACITY ON THE ELEVATOR.
SO THAT WOULD DEFINITELY BE SOMETHING I'D LOOK AT.
UM, AND THEN, UH, AS FAR AS SECURITY, UH, DO YOU KNOW, UH, IS THERE GONNA BE ONSITE, UM, GUARDS, UM, AT THE BUILDING DURING THE CLASSROOMS OR AFTER HOURS? OR IS IT, IS IT, ARE THERE NO GUARDS PRESENT? THAT I'M NOT SURE ABOUT, BUT I CAN GET YOU THAT INFORMATION.
I IMAGINE THERE WOULD BE SOME TYPE OF, UH, SECURITY PRESENCE ON THE, ON THE CAMPUS THOUGH.
AND AGAIN, JUST, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE OTHER THING I'VE SEEN IS THAT, UM, AGAIN, WHEN YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, I SAID YOU SAID FOUR 50, BUT MAINLY 150 STUDENTS KIND OF AT ONE TIME, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT MAY BE IMPORTANT, UM, TO JUST FOR THE SAFETY AND, UH, UM, OF THE, OF THE, OF THE STUDENTS CLASSROOMS. YOU KNOW, I IMAGINE THE COLLEGE HAS, UH, YOU KNOW, IDS AND YOU SCAN IN TO GET WHERE YOU NEED TO BE, OTHERWISE YOU CAN'T REALLY ACCESS THAT.
THAT'S WHAT I'D IMAGINE, BUT I CAN GET THAT INFORMATION.
YEAH, I NOTICED THAT THE, THE BUILDING HAS LIKE A SORT OF LIKE A CARD, AND I DON'T WANNA SAY IT WAS CARD KEY.
IT SEEMED LIKE IT WAS MORE LIKE YOU PUNCHED IN A CODE OR SOMETHING.
UM, UH, SO THERE, UH, MAYBE IT'S GOT A VOICE SECURITY BOX.
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DID SEEM TO BE CAMERAS IN THE, IN THE LOBBY, BUT I DID OBVIOUSLY DID SEE A SECURITY GUARD DESK, YOU KNOW, LOBBY'S REALLY SMALL AND YEAH.AND AGAIN, UM, UH, JUST, UM, MAYBE SOMETHING THAT'S, THAT'S NEEDED, YOU KNOW, AS PART OF THE SURE.
AND YEAH, I THINK IT'D, I THINK IT'D BE IMPORTANT TO HAVE THE, UM, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE NOT FINAL SAY SO ON THIS, BUT IF IT DOES GET RECOMMENDED, YOU KNOW, YOU THEN GO TO COUNSEL WHO HAS THE FINAL SAY.
I THINK IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE COLLEGE THERE.
UH, PROBABLY ALSO SOMEBODY FROM THE BUILDING OR AT LEAST HAVE THE INFORMATION ABOUT THE OCCUPANCY.
I'M GUESSING IT'S AT LEAST 50%, UH, VACANT, UH, SINCE THEY'VE, OR, OR WAS, AND, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS LEASE IS COMMITTED YET.
IT'S PROBABLY DEPENDENT UPON GETTING THE SPECIAL PERMIT.
UH, BUT JUST TO TALK ABOUT, UH, UH, THE VACANCY THAT'S THERE.
AND, UH, UH, I, I DID REDO A LITTLE RESEARCH JUST ONLINE ABOUT THE COLLEGE AND, UM, YOU KNOW, SAW THE SAME THING THAT WAS FOUNDED BY I BELIEVE A, UM, YOU KNOW, A, UM, A DOCTOR AND, UM, A CLERGYMAN, LET'S SAY, UH, THAT STARTED THIS BACK IN 1966 AND, YOU KNOW, IT WAS A NONPROFIT AND, UH, PRETTY MUCH SAW THE SAME THING ON THE TYPES OF COURSES THAT WERE OFFERED.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, OVERALL REVIEWS WERE, WERE GOOD, BUT THERE, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY SOME NEGATIVES ONES IN THERE TOO, SO PROBABLY GET THAT WITH ANYBODY.
UH, AS FAR AS CHIP TRIP GENERATION, I MEAN, KIMLEY HORN'S A WELL-RESPECTED, UM, CONSULTANT IN, IN THAT FIELD, SO, UM, SEEMS LIKE THAT ALL MADE SENSE AND WOULDN'T, WOULDN'T SEE AN ISSUE WITH THE PARKING.
UM, SEEMS LIKE THERE'S PLENTY THERE.
UH, ANYONE, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MR. PURDY? ANY, UM, INFORMATION YOU CAN GIVE US ON LIKE, AVERAGE TUITION FOR THE PROGRAMS THAT I'M NOT SURE ABOUT EITHER.
UH, MR. ROTH QUESTION, BUT A COMMENT, UH, RELATED TO DEMAND.
I JUST DID A QUICK LITTLE RESEARCH AND, UH, APPARENTLY TEXAS IS GONNA BE, UH, HAD A DEFICIT OF NURSES AROUND 57,000 NURSES BY 2032, AND, UH, 16% DEFICIT OF THAT NUMBER BY 2025.
SO THERE'S DEFINITELY A DEMAND THERE.
UH, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, SO I, I DO NEED TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, UM, AND ASK IF THERE'S ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OR OPPOSITION TO THE REQUEST.
UH, SEEING THAT THERE'S NOBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE, I'M GUESSING WE HAVE NONE.
UH, SO ANY, ANY FURTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE CL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING OR YOU READY TO CLOSE IT? I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
COMMISSIONER BEACH, COMMISSIONER SHAHE SECOND.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
UM, SO AGAIN, I THINK THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, I I THINK IT'S HARD, YOU KNOW, I DON'T REALLY FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD BE IN THE BUSINESS OF LIKE, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, SUPPLY AND DEMAND ARE, ARE THERE TOO MANY NURSING SCHOOLS OR, UM, THAT SORT OF THING.
UM, YEAH, THERE'S, THERE'S A FEW WITH WEST COAST GALEN COLLEGE THAT WE KNOW OF.
UM, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK IT'S MORE THE LAND USE.
UM, I, I DO THINK THAT THIS BUILDING IS, UH, WHAT WE'D PROBABLY CALL A CLASS B MINUS OR CLASS C TYPE OFFICE BUILDING AND NOT THE MOST DESIRABLE LOCATION BEING OFF THE FREEWAY.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T HAVE THAT FRONTAGE OR VISIBILITY, THE AGE OF THE, THE BUILDING.
UM, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WITH THE VACANCY IT HAS, UH, SO BEING ABLE TO FILL, UH, YOU KNOW, A 30, 31,000 SQUARE FEET, YOU KNOW, IS LIKE IMPORTANT I THINK FOR THE CITY.
UH, AND I, I DO THINK IT'S AN AMENITY THAT OBVIOUSLY THERE, OBVIOUSLY THE CAS LOMA WOULDN'T BE DOING IT IF THEY DIDN'T FEEL THERE WAS ENOUGH DEMAND HERE AND A NEED FOR IT.
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MY, MY ONLY CONCERNS WERE REALLY ABOUT OPERATIONALLY INSIDE, YOU KNOW, ONCE YOU START HAVING ALL THOSE PEOPLE FROM THE ELEVATOR AND SECURITY, UH, PERSPECTIVE.BUT, UM, OTHER THAN THAT, I'D BE IN FAVOR OF IT.
MR. VICE CHAIRMAN, ECHO YOUR SENTIMENTS.
UH, I WOULD ADD THAT CASA LOMA, UM, HAD A LOT OF CHOICES.
UM, THEY'RE IN THREE STATES AND THEY'RE NOT IN TEXAS.
AND SO A 31,000 SQUARE FOOT LEASE IN A CLASS B OFFICE SPACE IS REALLY, UM, THAT'S A GREAT, THAT'S A GREAT THING FOR A CITY.
UM, 'CAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF VACANT AND, UM, YOU KNOW, 5,000, 10,000 SQUARE FOOT LEASES COME AND GO.
31,000 IS A, IS A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER FOR A BUILDING LIKE THIS, AND IT'S A USE CASE, UM, THAT I KNOW I WAS SORT OF COMING ACROSS.
LIKE, I THINK THAT THERE'S COMPETITION IN WEST COAST UNIVERSITY JUST POINTING IT OUT AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK CHAIRMAN OR COMMISSIONER ROBERTS SAID IT WELL WITH THE, THE NEED FOR THIS.
AND SO THIS IS A USAGE CASE THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANY OF THE THINGS THAT OUR COMMUNITIES GET ANGRY ABOUT.
UM, IT'S ALREADY AN EXISTING BUILDING.
TRAFFIC'S REALLY NOT A BIG DEAL.
IT'S, IT'S NURSING AND, UH, GOOD JOBS, UM, THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, EQUIPPING THE NEXT GENERATION.
UM, I THINK JUST WE, WE NEED MORE OF THESE.
MY, MY ONLY POINT TO THAT, AND I, I AGREE WITH THE PREVIOUS COMMISSIONERS, BUT I, I THINK A PART OF US, YOU KNOW, REVIEWING THESE CASES IS TO JUST PUSH.
AND I FEEL LIKE WITH THE CURRICULUM THAT'S BEING PRESENTED IS TEACHING THE NURSING OF THE LAST 50 YEARS INSTEAD OF THE NURSING OF THE NEXT 50 YEARS.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? SOMEONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION COMMISSIONER QUIRK, YOU WERE GIVING ME THAT LOOK.
YEAH, I'LL, I'LL, UH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ZONING FILE 26 DASH OH THREE WITH THE, UH, THE, UH, SPECIAL CONDITIONS THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THE, UH, PRESENTATION.
JUST TO CLARIFY, RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
THANKS FOR BEING A MEMBER OF THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
[5. Staff report on pending development, zoning permits, and planning matters.]
OKAY.LAST THING IS, UH, ITEM FIVE, INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATIONS.
THAT'S A STAFF REPORT ON PENDING DEVELOPMENTS, ZONING PERMITS, PLANNING MATTERS.
UH, BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO ANDREW TO GIVE YOU, UM, MORE OF THE SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT INFORMATION, I JUST WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU THAT, UM, UH, THE GENTLEMAN SITTING AT THE VERY END OF THE TABLE IS JAKE ADELE, AND HE IS WITH THE CITY OF RICHARDSON FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.
HE'S ACTUALLY IN THE US ARMY AND IS PARTICIPATING IN A FELLOWSHIP SKILLS BRIDGE PROGRAM HERE, UH, WITH THE US ARMY, THE CITY OF RICHARDSON, AND ALSO TEXAS MUNICIPAL, CORRECT.
SO, UM, BUT ANYWAY, UM, WE JUST WANTED TO INTRODUCE HIM TO YOU AND SO THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHO'S SITTING AT THE END OF THE TABLE, BUT I'LL TURN IT OVER TO ANDREW.
GOOD EVENING, UH, MR. CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS.
UM, SO AS FAR AS THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT ITEMS, SO AT THE MARCH 23RD CITY COUNCIL MEETING, UM, THERE WAS THE COSMETIC TATTOOING ESTABLISHMENT.
UM, AND GIVEN THE, THE APPLICANT'S, UM, LACK OF INTEREST IN MOVING FORWARD ON THAT APPLICATION, UH, THAT CASE WAS, UH, DENIED AT THAT MEETING.
AND THEN THE, UH, KID IN PLAY SPECIAL PERMIT REQUEST, UM, FOR AN INDOOR PLAYGROUND, UM, INDOOR COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT CENTER THAT WAS, UM, THAT WAS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY OVER ON LOCKWOOD.
AND THEN AS FAR AS UPCOMING ITEMS, UM, SO WE HAVE A, UH, A RESIDENTIAL INFO RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT'S, UH, SCHEDULED FOR YOUR NEXT MEETING ON APRIL 21ST.
UM, AND THEN ON MAY 5TH, UM, WE ARE TRACKING, UM, SOME ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS RELATED TO THE, UH, THE LE LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION.
UM, SO WE HAVE THREE ITEMS, UM, HOME OCCUPATIONS, THE DEFINITION OF FAMILY, AS WELL AS, UM, ZONING PROTESTS, UM, AND THE DIFFERENT CRITERIA THAT HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED FOR THAT.
UM, SO THOSE WILL BE, UM, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION ON MAY 5TH, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE ON MAY 19TH, UM, UH, POTENTIALLY THREE SPECIAL PERMIT CASES.
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SOUNDS GOOD.UH, SO WITH ANOTHER, UH, FURTHER BUSINESS, UH, GO AHEAD AND ADJOURN THE MEETING AT, UH, 6:36 PM THANK YOU.