Apr 21, 2026 City Planning Commission Meetings

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A QUORUM PRESENT, AND I'D LIKE TO NOW CALL THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE RICHARDSON CITY PLAN COMMISSION TO ORDER. IT'S TUESDAY, APRIL 21ST, 2026 AT 6 P.M. THE PLAN COMMISSION CONSISTS OF RICHARDSON RESIDENTS APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL. THERE ARE SEVEN REGULAR MEMBERS AND TWO ALTERNATES ON THE COMMISSION, BUT ONLY SEVEN MEMBERS WILL VOTE ON AN ISSUE TONIGHT. WE'VE JUST GOT SEVEN, SO EVERYBODY WILL BE PARTICIPATING IN THE DISCUSSIONS AND DELIBERATIONS AND VOTING. THIS MEETING IS A BUSINESS MEETING, AND WE REQUEST THAT YOU TURN ALL YOUR CELL PHONES OFF. SO DON'T INTERRUPT THE MEETING. OUR PROCEEDINGS ARE RECORDED, SO PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD WHEN ADDRESSING THE COMMISSION TONIGHT ON THE AGENDA, WE HAVE ONE PUBLIC HEARING. SO THAT WILL BE PRECEDED BY A STAFF INTRODUCTION OF THE THE REQUEST. AND THEN THE APPLICANT IS PERMITTED 15 MINUTES TO MAKE THEIR PRESENTATION TO THE COMMISSION, AND THEY MAY RESERVE ANY PORTION OF THAT TIME FOR FINAL REBUTTAL. TIME SPENT IN ANSWERING QUESTIONS BY THE COMMISSION IS NOT COUNTED AGAINST THE APPLICANT. ALL SPEAKERS ARE REQUESTED TO COMPLETE A PUBLIC COMMENT CARD, WHICH ARE AT THE FRONT OF THE ROOM. THE BLUE CARDS THERE AND SUBMIT THEM TO OUR RECORDING SECRETARY BEFORE THE MEETING BEGINS. THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF OPPOSITION. THE REQUEST WILL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES EACH TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION. WE JUST REQUEST THAT. YOU KNOW, THOSE, YOU KNOW, SPEAKERS WAS NOT PHYSICALLY APPROACHED, THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION OR STAFF, THEY SHOULD REMAIN AT THE LECTERN DURING THEIR COMMENTS. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY HANDOUTS, THOSE MUST BE PROVIDED ALSO TO THE RECORDING SECRETARY. IF THERE ARE ORGANIZED GROUPS IN ATTENDANCE, WE SUGGEST YOU SELECT REPRESENTATIVES TO PRESENT YOUR REMARKS AND THEN COMMISSION IS INTERESTED IN GATHERING NEW AND RELEVANT INFORMATION. WE'RE NOT INTERESTED IN REPETITION.

PLEASE ADDRESS ALL COMMENTS TO THE COMMISSION, NOT TO MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE. AFTER A BRIEF REBUTTAL BY THE APPLICANT, THE HEARING WILL BE CLOSED. NO FURTHER TESTIMONY WILL BE PERMITTED. SO WITH THAT, THE FIRST AT THE START OF EVERY MEETING, WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS THAT ARE NOT SUBJECT TO A PUBLIC HEARING. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS THEY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE? THAT REALLY WOULD ONLY APPLY TO THE MINUTES FROM APRIL 7TH OR OUR WORK SESSION DISCUSSION. SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE ON WITH ITEM ONE OF THE

[1. Approval of the minutes of the regular business meeting of April 7, 2026. ]

[2. Zoning File 26-02 —Greenwood Park: Consider and act on a request to rezone approximately 4.7 acres located on the westside of West Shore Drive, south of Wisteria Way, north of Arapaho Road, from LR-M(2)Local Retail to PD Planned Development with a base zoning district of R-1100-M Residential District with amended development standards to accommodate the development of up to 40 single-family residential lots. Owner: DJC Realco Richardson LLC. Staff: Derica Peters. ]

MISS PETERS WILL TAKE US THROUGH THIS. THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN, COMMISSIONERS, ZONING FILE 2602 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE THE PROPERTY AT 1111 WEST SHORE DRIVE FROM LOCAL RETAIL TO LRM TWO TO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT WITH A BASE ZONING DISTRICT OF R 1100 M RESIDENTIAL WITH MODIFIED DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS TO ACCOMMODATE THE DEVELOPMENT OF 40 SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOUSES. THE SUBJECT SITE IS AT THE NORTHWEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF ARAPAHOE AND WEST SHORE DRIVE. IT IS BORDERED BY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO THE NORTH AND TO THE NORTHEAST. IMMEDIATELY TO THE WEST IS AN ASSISTED LIVING CENTER. TO THE SOUTH OF THE SITE IS THE RICHARDSON SENIOR CENTER, AS WELL AS SOME ADDITIONAL COMMERCIAL AND RETAIL AND RESTAURANTS. AND THEN EAST OF WESTSHORE DRIVE IS GREENWOOD SQUARE, A SIMILAR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS APPROVED IN 2023 AND IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION, AND THE SUBJECT SITE IS THE SITE OF THAT SIX POINT STAR SHAPED BUILDING, WHICH WAS FORMERLY THE HOME OF AN ASSISTED LIVING CENTER NURSING HOME. HERE ARE VIEWS OF THE SITE FROM WEST SHORE, AND THEN ANOTHER VIEW FROM THE SENIOR CENTER, AND THEN ANOTHER VIEW FROM THE WEST ELEVATION. SO THIS PROPERTY WAS DEVELOPED WITH THE NURSING CENTER AND ASSISTED LIVING CENTER IN 1988 AND WAS VACATED LAST YEAR. THIS IS THE CONCEPT PLAN PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT. THE SITE IS 4.7 ACRES AND AS PROPOSED THERE WILL BE 40 DETACHED HOUSES. THIS IS A DENSITY OF 8.5 UNITS PER ACRE. THAT IS MORE AKIN TO

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THE REAR SETBACK FROM 25FT, WHICH IS TYPICALLY REQUIRED TO EITHER 3FT OR 10FT, DEPENDING ON THE LOCATION OF THE GARAGE. AND THIS LAST MENTION HERE IS A EXCEPTION TO OUR MANEUVERABILITY REQUIREMENTS. MANEUVERABILITY MEANS THE REQUIRED PAVEMENT SPACE BEHIND A GARAGE, AND COMBINED WITH THE STREET THAT ALLOWS FOR MANEUVERING IN AND OUT OF DRIVEWAYS, THEY HAVE PROVIDED A SMALLER OR MORE NARROW STREET SECTION, BUT THEY HAVE ALSO PROVIDED AUTOTURN TEMPLATE TEMPLATES THAT DEMONSTRATE THAT A STANDARD CAR CAN GET INTO AND OUT OF THESE GARAGES AS AS PROPOSED AND AS DESIGNED. THE PHOTO ON THE LEFT IS A RENDERING PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT THAT SHOWS HOW YOU SEE. THIS IS A COMPACT STYLE DEVELOPMENT. THE HOMES ARE BROUGHT TOWARDS THE STREET AND IT'S MEANT TO BE MORE URBAN AND WALKABLE. HERE ARE SOME MORE FEATURES OF THE SITE. THERE WILL BE TWO OPEN SPACE AREAS.

THE CENTER ONE, WHICH IS 11,000FT■!S IN THE CENTER OF THE SITE, AND THEN BENEATH THAT OR SOUTH OF THAT IS A 2000 SQUARE FOOT SMALLER AREA. AND THESE WILL BE AMENITIES FOR THE RESIDENTS. THERE WILL ALSO BE THREE OPEN SPACE LOTS ALONG WEST SHORE DRIVE THAT WILL SERVE AS A LANDSCAPE BUFFER. SO THOSE WILL FEATURE STREET TREES AND A SIX FOOT TALL MASONRY SCREENING WALL ALONG WEST SHORE DRIVE. IN ADDITION, THERE'S AN EXISTING SIX FOOT MASONRY SCREENING WALL ON THE WEST PROPERTY LINE, SO THAT WILL REMAIN IN PLACE. THEN, ALONG THE SOUTHERN PROPERTY LINE, THERE WILL BE A NEW EIGHT FOOT TALL WOODEN FENCE ALONG THE REAR YARD OF THESE LOTS ALONG THE SOUTHERN PROPERTY LINE, AND THAT WILL SEPARATE THIS DEVELOPMENT FROM THE SENIOR CENTER TO THE SOUTH. HERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE GARAGE SETBACKS. AS I MENTIONED, THE COMPACT NATURE OF THIS DOES REQUIRE SOME MODIFICATIONS TO WHAT WOULD BE A TRADITIONAL LAYOUT. SO THIS APPROACH IS COMMON FOR INFILL AND URBAN STYLE COMPACT DEVELOPMENT. WHAT WE HAVE PROPOSED HERE IS INSTEAD OF A TRADITIONAL DRIVEWAY, SOME OF THESE DRIVEWAYS MAY BE SHORTER THAN TYPICAL, AND THAT IS IN ORDER TO MAXIMIZE THE LIVABLE AREA ON THE GROUND FLOOR, YOU'RE TRADING THAT DRIVEWAY SPACE FOR MORE LIVABLE AREA ON THE GROUND FLOOR. IN ORDER TO DO THAT, AND IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT CARS AREN'T PARKING IN THAT SHORTER DRIVEWAY AND POTENTIALLY ENCROACHING ON THE SIDEWALK AND ENCROACHING ON THE STREET, WE HAVE THESE TWO DIFFERENT DRIVEWAY STANDARDS FOR A FRONT FACING GARAGE OR AN ALLEY SURF GARAGE, SO A FRONT FACING GARAGE CAN AT MAXIMUM BE PLACED AT 13FT BACK FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY. OR IF THEY DO WANT TO PROVIDE A FULL SIZE DRIVEWAY, IT HAS TO BE AT MINIMUM 25FT FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR ALLEY SERVED GARAGES THAT SHALL BE AT MAXIMUM FOUR FEET, OR IT SHALL BE 20FT. TO ENSURE A FULL SIZE CAR CAN PARK THERE. IN ADDITION

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HERE'S ANOTHER CONCEPTUAL RENDERING. THIS IS A VIEW YOU WOULD SEE FROM WESTSHORE AT THE ENTRANCE OF THE DEVELOPMENT. AND HERE'S A PHOTO OF A NEARLY COMPLETE HOUSE AT GREENWOOD SQUARE ACROSS THE STREET. SO THIS GIVES YOU ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THAT STYLE OF DEVELOPMENT, HOW THAT WILL LOOK THE ENVISION RICHARDSON FUTURE LAND USE PLAN IS DESIGNATED THIS AREA AS PART OF A NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL PLACE TYPE THAT IS CHARACTERIZED PREDOMINANTLY AS SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOUSES. SO THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE PLACE TYPE.

I'LL ALSO ADD THAT DETACHED HOUSES ARE IDENTIFIED AS A PRIMARY USE HERE, AND ATTACHED HOUSES SUCH AS TOWNHOMES ARE IDENTIFIED AS A SECONDARY USE IN THIS PLACE TYPE AS WELL. SO SINCE THIS DENSITY IS A LITTLE CLOSER TO TOWNHOME, I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT TO YOU.

THIS WAS A PUBLIC HEARING AND WE RECEIVED FOUR COMMENTS IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST. TWO OF THOSE WERE IN YOUR PACKET. AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER TWO IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT. THEN WE HAVE ONE WRITTEN STATEMENT NEUTRAL TO THE REQUEST FROM A MEMBER OF THE SENIOR CENTER, JUST ASKING THAT THE ACCESS FOR VEHICLES BE CUT OFF BETWEEN THE SENIOR CENTER AND THIS SITE. I GUESS THERE'S SOME TRAFFIC GOING BACK AND FORTH TODAY. SO SHOULD THE CPC ACCEPT THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST AS PRESENTED, THE MOTION WOULD INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING SPECIAL CONDITIONS. THE SITE SHALL BE ZONED PD DEVELOPMENT WITH THE BASE ZONING DISTRICT OF R 1100 M RESIDENTIAL AND SHALL BE DEVELOPED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PD STANDARDS. THE CONCEPT PLAN AND OFFENSE EXHIBIT THAT WAS ATTACHED AS WELL. AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TONIGHT WITH A FEW MORE RENDERINGS TO SHOW YOU. QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. COMMISSIONER. JUST A QUESTION ON THE MANEUVERABILITY. YOU MENTIONED A STANDARD VEHICLE. IS THAT A STANDARD SEDAN? A SUV LIKE THE MAJORITY OF HOUSEHOLD VEHICLES SHOULD STILL BE ABLE TO GET IN AND OUT OF THE GARAGE AT THAT 19.27. I'LL HAVE TO ASK THE APPLICANT TO REMIND US WHAT TEMPLATE THEY USED FOR THAT.

GOOD QUESTION. MISTER ROBERTS, YOU MENTIONED ARE IN THE PACKET. THERE WAS TWO LOT SIZES 2011 THOUSAND, I THINK. THE LOT SIZE IS 2000 AND THE BUILDING SIDE IS 1100. WAS THAT THE ONE YOU WERE LOOKING AT? CAN YOU GO BACK A COUPLE? YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING BACK. AND THEN THIS ONE POINTS OUT THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE AND MINIMUM HOUSE SIZE. OKAY. I BELIEVE MISS DERRICK ACTUALLY SAID 11. THE MINIMUM HOUSE SIZE WAS 11,000FT■!S WHEN SHE VERBALLY STATED IT, BUT IT IS A MINIMUM 1100 SQUARE FEET. THANK YOU. THE THE OPEN SPACE LOTS IN THE CENTER OF THE DEVELOPMENT ARE 11,002 THOUSAND. THAT'S RIGHT, 11,000 HERE, 2000 HERE. ALL RIGHT. THAT CLEARS THAT UP. THANKS. ON THE DIFFERENT GARAGE FORMATS ARE ALL OF THOSE GOING TO BE IN USE.

THE DIFFERENT FORMATS. WE DON'T WE DON'T KNOW YET UNTIL HE STARTS BUILDING THE HOMES AND SELLING THE HOMES. SO IT MAY BE EITHER ONE OF THOSE OPTIONS. OKAY. THANKS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. MINE IS HAS TO DO WITH THE PARKING AND THE STREET WIDTHS. SO LOOKING AT

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SO IF YOU ACCOMMODATE FOR ON STREET PARKING ON EITHER SIDE AT EIGHT FEET, YOU REALLY GET DOWN TO ABOUT TEN FEET IN WIDTH ON A STANDARD STREET FOR PASSING THROUGH BECAUSE 26 -16 FOR ON STREET PARKING OCCURRING ON EITHER SIDE, THEN GETS YOU DOWN TO TEN FEET. SO IN THIS CASE, PARTICULARLY WITH STREET A AND STREET C, THE FACT THAT THE PARKING HAS BEEN SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED OUTSIDE OF THE THE TRAVEL WAYS, THEN WE'RE ABLE TO HAVE THOSE TWO TEN FOOT TRAVEL LANES. OKAY, SO STREET C AND STREET A, THE TRAVEL LANES ACTUALLY EXCEED OUR STANDARD STREET WITH. OKAY. THEN ON STREET C, IT APPEARS TO BE 22FT WIDE BETWEEN THE PARKING PARALLEL PARKING SPACES IN THE HEAD END SPACES, THE BACK END, THE REAR OF THE HEAD END SPACES IS THAT THAT'S YOU'RE SAYING A TEN FOOT AND A 12 FOOT LANE, 22FT. OKAY. AND THEN SO HERE'S THE ISSUE. UNDER STREET B. THAT IS 26FT WIDE. AND AS I'M SEEING IT. BUT YOU COULD HAVE PARKING ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF STREET B, WHICH WOULD MAKE THAT THEN 18FT WIDE FOR TWO TWO WAY TRAFFIC. THAT'S CORRECT. AND THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH OUR STANDARD STREET SECTION, WHICH TYPICALLY ALLOWS FOR PARKING ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET. SO WE'RE ACTUALLY WE WORKED WITH APPLICANT TO PROHIBIT ON STREET PARKING ON THE ONE SIDE OF THE STREET TO MAKE EVEN MORE ROOM FOR MANEUVERABILITY DOWN THAT STREET. OKAY, SO THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE SAYING TO BEGIN WITH, RIGHT? RIGHT. SO TO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT OUR STANDARD STREET CROSS SECTION, IT'S 26FT IN WIDTH FROM FACE TO FACE OF CURB, RIGHT? SO THAT'S THE AREA THAT'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE USED BY VEHICLES. AND THEN YOUR TYPICAL RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU CAN HAVE PARKING ALONG BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET BEING THAT THE LOTS. SO THAT LEAVES YOU WITH TEN FEET. CORRECT. THAT WOULD LEAVE YOU WITH TEN FEET ON A STANDARD STREET SECTION. OKAY. SO WHAT I'M SAYING HERE, THIS ONE'S 26FT WIDE AND YOU TAKE AWAY EIGHT FEET. YOU HAVE 18. THAT ONLY LEAVES YOU NINE FEET FOR EACH. EACH DIRECTION, WHICH SEEMS TO BE UNDER WHAT YOU JUST SAID. WELL, IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT LIKE A MY STREET, THERE'S ONLY IF THERE'S CARS PARKED ON BOTH SIDES. THERE'S ONLY ONE CAR THAT CAN GO THROUGH. THAT IS CORRECT. YES. IT COULD GO EITHER DIRECTION, BUT NOT AT THE SAME TIME. THAT IS CORRECT.

SO STREET B IS OUR TYPICAL STREET CROSS SECTION. PART OF THESON WHY IN WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT, WE ASKED TO RESTRICT NO PARKING ON THE NORTH SIDE OF STREET B, WHERE IT'S SHOWN IS BECAUSE WHEN YOU HAVE A SMALLER, DENSER LOT PATTERN, YOUR DRIVEWAYS ARE GOING TO POTENTIALLY EAT UP MORE OF THE FRONTAGE ALONG THROUGH THERE. SO IT MAKES IT A LITTLE MORE RESTRICTIVE FOR ON STREET PARKING. AND THEN WHAT WE'VE LEARNED WITH WORKING WITH OUR FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE, YOU'LL SEE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF STREET B, PARTICULARLY CLOSER TO THE INTERSECTION WITH STREET C, THERE'S A LITTLE SECTION THERE JUST TO MAKE SURE WE CAN MAKE THE OUTSIDE TURNING MANEUVER. SO WE WOULD STILL ACCOMMODATE OTHERWISE ON STREET PARKING ALONG STREET B ON THE SOUTH SIDE, AND THEN WHERE THEY ACTUALLY ARE PLANNING TO BUILD PARALLEL PARKING. THAT'LL BE OUTSIDE THOSE TRAVEL LANES. SO IT'S KIND OF A BLEND OF OUR OPERATIONS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE TODAY. AND THEN SO AND THEN WITH STREET C AND A, THE REASON WHY WE HAD THEM DO BUILD THE PARALLEL PARKING. THOSE ARE ALL FRONT ENTRY HOMES. SO THEIR ALLEY SERVED IN THAT WAY. IF THEY HAVE VISITORS OR PEOPLE NEED TO PARK IN FRONT OF THEIR HOMES, THEN WE HAVE DESIGNATED PARKING LANES, IF YOU WILL, TO ACCOMMODATE THE VEHICLES. AND THEN WE'RE STILL MAINTAINING THAT TWO WAY TRAFFIC. SO YOU ACTUALLY HAVE BETTER TWO WAY TRAFFIC CIRCULATION ON STREET C AND STREET A THAN YOU DO STREET B, BUT STREET B DOES MEET OUR

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THAT'S CORRECT. JUST LIKE IN ANY OF OUR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS THAT EXIST TODAY, YOU COULD HAVE THAT SAME SITUATION OCCURRING IF YOU HAVE VEHICLES PARKED ON BOTH SIDES.

JUST AS VICE CHAIR TOMASSON MENTIONED. YEAH, RIGHT. SO, I MEAN, I JUST, YOU KNOW. DO WE REALLY I GUESS THAT'S ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS THAT STREET B IS JUST GOING TO POTENTIALLY IS JUST GOING TO BE ONE LANE ONLY USABLE, NOT TWO LANES. I THINK IT DEPENDS ON HOW MANY CARS ARE PARKED ALONG THE SOUTH SIDE OF STREET B AT ANY GIVEN TIME. I ALSO THINK THAT THERE'S PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT OF ROOM TO MANEUVER INTO THE DRIVEWAYS, A LITTLE FOR SOMEONE TO MOVE THEIR CAR OVER, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, THREE FEET INTO SOMEONE'S THE END OF SOMEONE'S DRIVEWAY TO ALLOW, YOU KNOW, PASSING CARS TO MOVE THROUGH. IF, YOU KNOW, IF IT CAME DOWN TO IT. SO IN THAT DIAGRAM THERE WITH THE RED NO PARKING, THE I'M ASSUMING THE REASON YOU HAVE IT OR IT'S PROPOSED AT THE INTERSECTION OF B AND C IS BECAUSE OF THE TURNING RADIUS RIGHT THERE.

THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH, YEAH. EVEN, EVEN THOUGH IT'S DESIGNED TO MEET OUR STANDARDS, SIMILARLY TO ANY OF THE OTHER RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WE HAVE IN TOWN. IN TALKING WITH OUR FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE, WHAT WE LEARNED IS SOMETIMES IT'S THAT OUTSIDE TURNING RADII AND AN INTERSECTION THAT CAN BE A CHALLENGE, PARTICULARLY IF THERE WAS A VEHICLE PARKED THERE. SO HENCE THAT SMALL SEGMENT THAT WE WORKED WITH THE APPLICANT THAT WOULD BE DESIGNATED FOR NO PARKING. SO WHERE YOU SEE THAT, THAT SMALL PIECE OF RED RIGHT THERE AT THAT INTERSECTION ON THAT GRAPHIC, BECAUSE IN A REGULAR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, WE WOULD NOT HAVE THAT NO PARKING RESTRICTION THERE. OKAY, SO WHY ON EXHIBIT C ARE THE ON STREET PARKING FOR STREET B NOT SHOWN? BECAUSE IT'S A STANDARD STREET. SO WE NORMALLY DON'T SHOW PARKING SPACES ALONG THE STANDARD STREET BECAUSE PEOPLE CAN PRESUMABLY PARK ANYWHERE UP AND DOWN ON EITHER SIDE OF THE STREET. SO THAT'S WHY THEY WEREN'T DRAWN IN HERE. NOW, THE ONE EXCEPTION WOULD BE ADJACENT TO THE OPEN SPACE THAT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DEVELOPMENT, WHERE THEY'VE ACTUALLY PROPOSED TO BUILD DEDICATED PARALLEL PARKING SPACES IN FRONT OF THAT, AND DESIGNED IT IN A MANNER TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE PARKING SPACES ARE OUTSIDE THE TRAVEL LANE, BUT OTHERWISE, STREET B WOULD FUNCTION LIKE ANY OTHER STREET THAT WE HAVE HERE IN THE CITY, WHERE PEOPLE WOULD PARK ALONG THE STREET, PRESUMABLY NOT BLOCKING DRIVEWAYS WHERE THEIR FRONT ENTRY. RIGHT. AND SO THAT'S WHY YOU DON'T SEE PARKING SPACES DRAWN ALONG STREET B, OTHER THAN WHERE THE DEVELOPER IS BASICALLY FLARING OUT THE PAVEMENT TO PROVIDE, YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE THE GARAGE IS. DRIVEWAYS ARE GOING TO BE AT THIS POINT. SO THAT WOULD DETERMINE WHERE YOU COULD PARK THAT TOO. SO OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S VERY HELPFUL. THANK YOU.

SO CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE GARAGE, THE DRIVEWAYS? YEAH. THEY'RE SO. WHAT WHAT DO WE ASSUME THE AVERAGE LENGTH OF A LENGTH OF AN AVERAGE CAR WOULD BE? IT'S 20FT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE DESIGN OUR TYPICAL PARKING SPACES WITH. AND ACTUALLY HERE OUR PARKING STANDARDS ARE NINE BY 18FT. SO IT'S NINE FEET IN WIDTH IS YOUR TYPICAL PARKING SPACE, THE 18 FOOT DEPTH. AND AND SO WE HAVE MANEUVERABILITY CLAUSE WITHIN OUR COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE THAT ACTUALLY SAYS 18 BY 24. SO IT DOESN'T CLEARLY DELINEATE WHICH DIRECTIONS THE.

18 AND WHICH DIRECTION IS THE 24. SO BUT THAT'S THAT'S TYPICALLY WHAT WHAT YOU'RE DEALING WITH IN OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT I'VE WORKED IN, NORMALLY YOU WOULD HAVE A FRONT FACING GARAGE SET BACK 20FT OFF OF THE PROPERTY LINE, WHICH PROVIDES FOR SUFFICIENT SPACE TO BE ABLE TO BE ABLE TO PARK A VEHICLE IN THE DRIVEWAY. AND BY THE WAY, EARLIER, THE QUESTION REGARDING THE TURNING TEMPLATES, IT WAS A FORD F-150 PICKUP TRUCK. SO GOOD, GOOD SIZE VEHICLE THAT WE WERE USING TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY COULD MANEUVER IN AND OUT. AND I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU. SO THIS IS KIND OF A NEWER CONCEPT THAN PROBABLY WHAT YOU'VE SEEN IN THE PAST WITH RESPECT TO ESTABLISHING MAXIMUM SETBACKS AND OR THE MINIMUM BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT IT'S AN INFILL DEVELOPMENT, THE GOALS OF THE DEVELOPER TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A MORE COMPACT URBAN FORM DEVELOPMENT WHEN YOU HAVE FRONT FACING GARAGES, WHEN YOU YOU

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RIGHT. SO JUST BECAUSE THERE'S SUCH A SMALL VEHICLE OR MAYBE A FIAT, SO WE TRY TO PUT SOME DESIGN CONTROLS IN PLACE IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE FOR THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT.

ALSO KNOWING THAT SOME OF THE LOTS, POTENTIALLY ALL OF THEM MAY NOT HAVE A FULL STANDARD DEPTH DRIVEWAY BEING PROVIDED. THAT'S WHY WE WORKED WITH THE APPLICANT TO BUILD ON STREET PARKING IN THIS DEVELOPMENT, TO BE ABLE TO OFFSET THE POTENTIAL USE OF SOMEBODY NOT PARKING IN THEIR GARAGE WITH 40 LOTS AND 51 PARKING SPACES, BEING ABLE TO BE ACCOMMODATED IN THE DEVELOPMENT. IT COMES OUT TO, I THINK THE MATH IS WHAT, 11.3. SO WE'VE AT LEAST ACCOMMODATED FOR ONE VISITOR PARKING FOR EACH OF THE LOTS HERE WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT. SO WE, WE BELIEVE THERE IS A, A BALANCE THAT HAS BEEN ACHIEVED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT. OBVIOUSLY. WELCOME TO HEAR YOUR COMMENTS IF YOU THINK DIFFERENTLY. BUT WE AGAIN, IN TRYING TO WORK THROUGH SOME OF THESE DESIGN CONSIDERATIONS TO ACCOMMODATE THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, KNOWING THAT THIS IS KIND OF A NEWER DESIGN FORMAT COMPARED TO WHAT WE'RE ACCUSTOMED TO SEEING, HENCE WHY WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CALLED THIS OUT AND SPENT SOME TIME EXPLAINING THIS. THANK YOU.

THAT'S VERY HELPFUL. MY ONLY COMMENT WAS ABOUT THE 13FT ON THE FRONT FACING GARAGE. I BELIEVE YOU'VE GOT ALMOST FIVE FEET FOR THE SIDEWALK, FOUR FEET, EIGHT INCHES OR WHATEVER.

AND THAT. YOU KNOW, THAT'S NEARLY 18FT WHEN YOU COUNT THE SIDEWALK THAT THAT INCLUDES I COULD SEE SOMEBODY PULLING A CAR IN THERE AND BLOCKING THE SIDEWALK TO, TO TRY TO TRY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT. SO I WAS, I WAS JUST CURIOUS, A 13 FOOT MAXIMUM, WHY NOT A TEN FOOT MAXIMUM OR SOMETHING TO REALLY LIKE, REALLY PREVENT IT? BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S RIGHT ON THE CUSP OF COULD YOU FIT ONE IN? I KNOW YOU SAID A MINI COOPER, BUT CONSIDERING OUR NORMAL PARKING IS NINE FEET BY 18 AND WE'RE AT 13 PLUS FIVE ON THE SIDE, YOU'RE PRETTY MUCH LIKE A STANDARD PARKING SPACE COUNTING THE SIDEWALK THERE. SO WHY? WHY NOT? IF YOU'RE REALLY TRYING TO PREVENT THEM FROM PULLING IN THERE AND USING IT, WHY NOT MAKE THAT MAXIMUM MORE LIKE 10FT OR 9FT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, IF THAT'S THE INTENT? I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN HAVE THE APPLICANT ADDRESS AND JUST I WANT TO MAKE SURE DEREK CORRECTED. THE SIDEWALK IS ACTUALLY WITHIN THAT 13 FOOT DIMENSION. SO YOU DO HAVE THE OUTSIDE OF THE 13 FOOT DIMENSION. YOU DO HAVE SOME OF THE PARKWAY AREA. SO FROM THE OUTER EDGE OF THE SIDEWALK TO BACK OF CURB, AND I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, I FORGET WHAT THAT DIMENSION IS OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. YEAH, IT'S EITHER 4 OR 5FT BETWEEN THE CURB AND THE SIDEWALK. AND THEN YOU HAVE ANOTHER APPROXIMATELY FIVE FEET FOR THE SIDEWALK, AND THEN THAT LEAVES YOU ONLY ABOUT THREE FEET, 3 OR 4FT BEFORE YOU GET TO THE FRONT OF THE GARAGE. AND I THINK THE OTHER THING IS, I THINK THE APPLICANT WANTED TO HAVE THE GARAGE SET BACK A LITTLE BIT, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, AT LEAST A FOOT INSET FROM THE REST OF THE HOUSE. SO YOU DON'T HAVE A GARAGE DOMINATED FACADE. YEAH, I SEE IT NOW. I SEE THE SIDEWALKS KIND OF HIDDEN UNDER THERE. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. SO ANOTHER CRAZY QUESTION. BUT IF YOU'VE GOT A 25 FOOT MINIMUM FOR THE FRONT FACING GARAGES, WHY DO YOU ONLY HAVE A 20 FOOT MINIMUM FOR THE ALLEY SERVE GARAGES? THAT IS BECAUSE THE ALLEYS WILL NOT HAVE A SIDEWALK. SO THE 25FT INCLUDES THAT SIDE SIDEWALK. FAIR ENOUGH. COMMISSIONER POINTER, DOES THIS GET TURNED OVER TO A HOMEOWNERS

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BECAUSE ALSO, SINCE WE ALLOW FOR THE ALLEYS TODAY UNDER OUR EXISTING CODE TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE FOR THAT, WE FACTORED THAT IN THIS DESIGN. AND THEN ALSO THE PUBLIC STREETS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED IN THE DEVELOPMENT, PARTICULARLY ALONG STREET B, THE HOUSES COULD USE THAT. ADDITIONALLY FROM FOR THE MANEUVERABILITY. SO I THINK THAT THAT THAT VARIANCE FROM OUR STANDARD OF 24FT, I THINK IT WAS TO THE. 19.27 YES. IS ESSENTIALLY THAT EXTENSION OF THE ALLEYWAY IS WHERE YOU GOT THAT THAT FIGURE THAT IS THAT'S ACTUALLY THE EXISTING ALLEY TO THE NORTH. THAT'S WHAT WOULD BE PROVIDED THERE BETWEEN THE ALLEY AND THE DRIVEWAY, THE SHORT DRIVEWAY THAT WILL BE PROVIDED. THEY WOULD GET AT MINIMUM 19 FOR THE NORTHERN LOTS, AND THAT WILL BE THE SMALLEST AT 19.27. OKAY. AND I

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YET THAT PROPERTY IS ALSO THEIR PRIVATE DRIVEWAY. LIKE I'M PICTURING MAYBE, YOU KNOW, A HOMEOWNER WHO'S LEAVING THEIR LAWN MOWERS, MULTIPLE OF WHATEVER THAT MAY BE RIGHT ON THE SIDEWALK BECAUSE IT'S TECHNICALLY THEIR DRIVEWAY. SO HOW, HOW DO THOSE TWO THINGS WORK TOGETHER? DO YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THAT OR DO YOU WANT ME TO? OKAY, SO WHEN YOU HAVE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE DONE WHERE YOU HAVE FRONT ENTRY DRIVEWAYS, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT HAS THE SHALLOWER DEPTH OR THE STANDARD, YOU CAN HAVE THAT CONDITION POTENTIALLY PRESENT ITSELF. IN ANY CASE, LAWN MOWERS CAN TEMPORARILY LEFT OUT ENCROACHING SIDEWALK.

JUST LIKE CHILDREN'S PLAY TOYS CAN BE ALSO RIGHT AS IT RELATES TO THE PUBLIC SIDEWALK. IN THIS DEVELOPMENT, WE ARE SOMEWHAT CONCERNED THAT SOMEBODY COULD POTENTIALLY BLOCK THE PUBLIC SIDEWALK, AND WE'VE EXPRESSED THAT CONCERN TO THE APPLICANT AS WE'VE WORKED ON THIS PROJECT, BUT WE'RE ALSO TRYING TO BALANCE THAT WITH THE OTHER OBJECTIVES OF THE DESIGN ASPECTS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS. THE THE SIDEWALK NEEDS TO BE LEFT FREE AND CLEAR, SO IT'S NOT ENCROACHED, AT LEAST BY A VEHICLE. ENFORCEMENT THEN COMES DOWN TO THE CITY BECAUSE THE CITY CANNOT DELEGATE ITS POLICE POWERS TO THE HOA. I KNOW THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSED TO INCLUDE LANGUAGE WITHIN THEIR HOA DOCUMENTS TO ADDRESS THAT VEHICLE SHALL NOT ENCROACH THE PUBLIC SIDEWALK, SO WE CAN'T GUARANTEE IT 100% THAT IT WON'T OCCUR. WE'VE TRIED TO WORK WITH THEM FROM A DESIGN CONSIDERATION TO HOPEFULLY DISCOURAGE PEOPLE FROM ENCROACHING OVER THE SIDEWALK. SO HENCE, HENCE THE THE PAVERS ON EITHER SIDE OF THE SIDEWALK, MAKING IT DECORATIVE, THINKING THAT SOMEBODY DOESN'T WANT THE OILS FROM THEIR VEHICLES DRIPPING ON THE ON THE SIDEWALK AND ON THE PAVERS. RIGHT? SO, BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, EVEN IN A TYPICAL SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD WITH FULL DEPTH DRIVEWAYS, SOMEBODY COULD ALSO PARK THEIR CAR DOWN TOWARDS THE END OF THE DRIVEWAY. THEY MIGHT HAVE A HOUSEHOLD THAT HAS MULTIPLE VEHICLES THAT COULD POTENTIALLY ENCROACH THAT SIDEWALK. SO IT'S THE RISK IS THERE IN EITHER DESIGN SITUATION. BUT I THINK IT'S IT'S MORE PROMINENT POTENTIALLY IN WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT, JUST BECAUSE OF THE MORE COMPACT RESIDENTIAL DESIGN THAT'S TRYING TO BE ACHIEVED. AND JUST THIS IS MORE JUST CURIOSITY. AND GRANTED, THERE'S AN HOA WHICH MAY PREVENT THIS, BUT LET'S SAY I'M THE HOMEOWNER AND I WANT TO RE BRICK MY ENTIRE DRIVEWAY OR I WANT TO DO A BRIGHT BLUE CONCRETE COATING. LIKE AT WHAT POINT DOES MY,

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YES. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. YOU CAN SEE THE DIMENSIONAL ARROWS. SO THE SIDEWALK AGAIN KIND OF BLENDS INTO THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY. BUT IN THAT CASE YOU HAVE THE MUCH LONGER DEPTH DRIVEWAY. SO PRESUMABLY ROUGHLY 20FT TO PARK A CAR 21FT PLUS THE FOUR FOOT WELL, ACTUALLY 20FT TO PARK A CAR PLUS THE 4.74.8 WITH ON THE SIDEWALK. SO LESS OF A POTENTIAL CONCERN THERE. OKAY. IT'S INTERESTING. AND AND HOPEFULLY WE SEE MORE THINGS KIND OF LIKE THIS IN THE FUTURE. SO THANK YOU FOR THE EDUCATION AS WE RUN ACROSS STUFF LIKE THIS. AND JUST TO ADD TO THE PD, STANDARDS HAVE SPECIFIED THAT THE SIDEWALK SHALL BE MAINTAINED BY THE HOA.

YEAH. BECAUSE NORMALLY, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THAT IS A RESPONSIBILITY. AND OUR SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE THAT IS TIED TO YOU AS HOMEOWNERS, RIGHT? SO THAT IN SOME COMMUNITIES, MAINTENANCE OF THE SIDEWALK IS THAT OF THE CITY. BUT HERE IN RICHARDSON, OUR ORDINANCE READS THAT IT'S ACTUALLY THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE HOMEOWNER. SO ALL THE MORE REASON DRAWING THAT PARALLEL, HAVING THE HOA MAINTAIN THE SIDEWALK, ALSO GIVEN THE FACT THAT IT HAS THE DECORATIVE ELEMENT ASSOCIATED WITH IT SO THAT THERE'S CONTINUITY, SO THAT HOPEFULLY FOLKS WOULD NOT BE SWAPPING OUT THE VARIOUS DIFFERENT TYPES OF, OF PAVERS THAT ARE TRIMMING THE, THE SIDEWALK. I JUST HAD A QUESTION ABOUT LANDSCAPING ON THE OPEN SPACE LOTS. THERE WAS A REQUIREMENT CANOPY TREES, ONE PER 30 LINEAR FEET OF STREET FRONTAGE. BUT ON THE THE LOTS FACING WEST SHORES, ONE PER 50FT. WAS THERE A REASON WHY THERE WAS MORE RELIEF GRANTED ON WEST SHORE THAN THE. MORE RELIEF ON WEST SHORE? 1 TO 50 IS OUR STANDARD. SO WITH THE OPEN SPACE LOTS, WE WANTED THEM TO BE AMENITIZED AND GAVE THEM THE OPTION OF ONE PER 30FT TO ENSURE THERE IS ENOUGH LANDSCAPING IN THERE. OKAY. AND.

WHAT WAS THE WHAT WAS STAFF'S VIEW ON THE WOODEN FENCE ON THE SOUTH SIDE VERSUS MASONRY? WAS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT? BECAUSE WE HAVE MASONRY EXISTING ON THE WEST SIDE. YOU HAVE MASONRY ON THE NORTH SIDE TODAY, BUT THAT'S GOING TO BE DEMOLISHED BECAUSE OF THE DRIVEWAYS. THE REAR ACCESS TO ALLEYS, ALLEY ACCESS DRIVEWAYS. YOU GOT MASONRY ON THE WEST SHORE, BUT THEN IT SEEMED A LITTLE UNUSUAL TO ME THAT THERE WAS A FENCE ALLOWED ON THE SOUTH SIDE, A WOODEN FENCE. THE FENCE WILL BE IN A MAINTENANCE EASEMENT MAINTAINED BY THE HOA.

SO WE DO KNOW THAT THAT MAINTENANCE ELEMENT WILL BE THERE. THE OTHER THING I WOULD ADD IS WE DID NOT HAVE ANY SIGNIFICANT CONCERNS REGARDING THE WOODEN FENCE BEING PROPOSED ON THE SOUTH SIDE. YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE TIME WHEN DEVELOPMENT HAPPENS, RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS GET BUILT FIRST AND THEN THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT HAPPENS SECOND, RIGHT? BECAUSE YOU NEED THE HOMEOWNERS THERE FOR THE BUYING POWER FOR THE COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES. COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES TYPICALLY HAVE THE ONEROUS REQUIREMENT OF PROVIDING A MASONRY SCREENING WALL TO TRY TO MINIMIZE ANY OF THE POTENTIAL NOISE AND IMPACTS ASSOCIATED WITH COMMERCIAL USES ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL. BUT IN THIS CASE, BEING THAT THE RESIDENTIAL IS COMING IN AFTER THE COMMERCIAL, WE WE DID NOT HAVE A SIGNIFICANT CONCERN ASSOCIATED WITH IT. THE APPLICANT REQUESTED TO BE ABLE TO DO THE WOODEN FENCE. I KNOW WE HAVE TIGHT SPACE THAT WE'RE WORKING WITHIN. THE MASONRY WALL WOULD REQUIRE A FEW MORE FEET BEING ALLOCATED FOR IT TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THE WALL, PLUS THE MAINTENANCE ASSOCIATED WITH IT. BUT OTHERWISE WE DID NOT HAVE ANY CONCERN BECAUSE IT'S THE COMMERCIAL IS A KNOWN CONDITION. SOMEONE WHO'S BUYING A RESIDENCE WITHIN THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT KNOWS WHAT THE USES ARE ADJACENT TO THEM. THE TYPICAL STANDARD FOR A MASONRY WALL IS ALSO SIX FEET, AND DOING A WOODEN FENCE PROVIDES THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO HIGHER IN HEIGHT, WITH A WOODEN

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OKAY. THIS IS OUR. MY NAME IS BEN CALDWELL WITH CALDWELL RESIDENTIAL. I LIVE AT 1436 CHEYENNE DRIVE HERE IN RICHARDSON, TEXAS. SO THIS IS MY 20TH YEAR OF BEING A RICHARDSON RESIDENT. I'VE GOT FIVE YOUNG KIDS AND RAISING THEM. MY FAMILY HERE, I'VE BEEN DEVELOPING HERE IN RICHARDSON FOR A LITTLE OVER 15 YEARS NOW. PREVIOUSLY WITH MY PARTNER TODD SHATTUCK, WITH SHATTUCK CALDWELL BUILDERS AND DEVELOPERS, AND THEN HERE MORE RECENTLY, OVER THE LAST APPROXIMATELY THREE YEARS WITH CALDWELL RESIDENTIAL. AND SO I SHARE THAT ONLY TO SHARE THAT IT'S A, A JOY TO BE A PART OF THIS CITY. AND SO THE THINGS THAT HAPPEN IN THE CITY REALLY MATTER A LOT TO ME. YOU KNOW, IT'S A LONG TIME RESIDENT AND RAISED MY FAMILY HERE. OVER THE YEARS, I'VE HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF GETTING TO BUILD A LOT OF CUSTOM HOMES HERE IN RICHARDSON, AND THEN ALSO HAVE HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF WORKING ON SEVERAL DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENTS. FIRST ONE OF THOSE WAS MIMOSA PLACE. THAT WAS A SIMILAR PLANNED DEVELOPMENT ZONING SCENARIO WHERE IT WAS COMMERCIALLY ZONED, AND THAT'S OVER BY WHERE SPROUTS IS AND KIND OF BY THE BARBECUE PLACE AND WHATNOT. AND WE TOOK A COMMERCIALLY ZONED TRACT AND PLANNED FOR A HIGH QUALITY KIND OF BOUTIQUE RESIDENTIAL INFILL COMMUNITY, AND THEN DEVELOPED THAT INTO 18 HOME SITES, BUILT THE HOMES AND, AND NOW A LOT OF REALLY GREAT FAMILIES ARE THERE, WHICH IS FUN TO SEE. AFTER THAT GREENWOOD SQUARE, IT'S BEEN REFERENCED A FEW TIMES. HERE IS ANOTHER PROJECT THAT BROUGHT BEFORE THIS BODY AND COUNCIL AND WORKED EXTENSIVELY WITH BOTH CITY STAFF AND WITH THE COMMUNITY, REALLY TO BRING A BOUTIQUE INFILL, A HIGHER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT TO THE CITY. AND IT'S BEEN ENCOURAGING FOR ME TO SEE THE CONTINUED CONSTRUCTION. IT'S ABOUT, OH, I BELIEVE ABOUT HALF OF THE UNITS RIGHT NOW ARE SOLD IN. FROM TALKING TO AMY, WHO'S SELLING OVER THERE, THEIR DESIRE IS ACTUALLY TO BUILD THROUGH QUITE QUICKLY. AND THAT DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE NEXT YEAR OR SO. SO WITH THAT SAID, REALLY WOULD LIKE TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT OF JUST THE STORY OF THIS PROPERTY AND HOW I GOT CONNECTED WITH IT. SO AS HAS BEEN SHARED PREVIOUSLY, THIS HAS OPERATED AS A NURSING HOME SINCE 1988, WHEN IT WAS BUILT ABOUT TEN YEARS AGO, AN

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AND WHAT I SHARED WITH THEM IS THAT I BELIEVE THAT THIS SITE REALLY THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF THAT TODAY IS A HIGH QUALITY, THOUGHTFULLYESIGNED, BOUTIQUE INFILL RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY.

AND AS WE TALKED ABOUT THAT, THEY AGREED AND HAVE GIVEN ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BEFORE YOU TODAY. AND SO I'M HOPEFUL THAT WE'RE ABLE TO GET APPROVAL ON THIS AND BRING THIS TO FRUITION. OTHER THINGS I'D SHARE WITH YOU IS JUST WHAT PUBLIC FEEDBACK HAS LOOKED LIKE.

AND SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO TALK TO NEIGHBORS. AND SO WHAT THAT PROCESS HAS LOOKED LIKE WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT, LIKE ONES IN THE PAST, IS SPENT TIME AND MET WITH THE HOA BOARD FOR THE GREENWOOD HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, HAD REALLY GOOD POSITIVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE BOARD MEMBERS. ADDITIONALLY, I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH EVERY COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OWNER SURROUNDING THERE THAT I'M ABLE TO GET AHOLD OF ON THE PHONE.

I'VE GONE DOOR TO DOOR AND PASSED OUT INVITATIONS FOR COMMUNITY MEETING TO HEAR ABOUT THE PROJECT AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK TO GREENWOOD HILLS NEIGHBORS, AND THEN MORE BROADLY THROUGH THE. WITH THE HOA BOARD'S HELP, JUST GIVE A A BROAD ON THEIR FACEBOOK PAGE INVITATION TO COME TO A MEETING TO HEAR ABOUT THE PROJECT, TO OFFER FEEDBACK AND PROVIDE INPUT AND ASK QUESTIONS. AND SO IN ALL OF THOSE STEPS, I'M PLEASED TO SHARE THAT I'VE REALLY, WITHOUT ANY EXCEPTION, HAVE RECEIVED VERY POSITIVE FEEDBACK FROM FOLKS AND THAT RIGHT NOW, WHAT SITS THERE IS AN EMPTY BUILDING THAT'S KIND OF BEEN PARTED OUT A LITTLE BIT.

AND, AND, YOU KNOW, WE BELIEVE THAT IT IS A MEANINGFUL IMPROVEMENT AND SOMETHING THAT WILL BE HELPFUL FOR OUR COMMUNITY IN THE LONG TERM. SO WITH THAT SHARED, I'VE GOT A FEW IMAGES HERE FOR YOU AND I'M GOING TO SEE IF I CLICK, IF THEY COME THROUGH HERE. AND I THINK THE IMAGES MAYBE GOT A LITTLE BIT DISTORTED. THIS IS A GOOD ONE OF KIND OF THE OVERALL.

SO THINGS THAT WHEN I THINK ABOUT. SO PERSONALLY, FOR ME, I'VE BUILT MY CAREER ON BUILDING HIGH END RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS AND PRODUCT. AND SO IN ANYTHING THAT I'M A PART OF, I'M THINKING ABOUT WHO IS GOING TO ENJOY THIS SPACE, HOW ARE THEY GOING TO ENJOY IT? AND THEN WHAT ARE THE DETAILS THAT MAKE IT DIFFERENT FROM MAYBE WHAT WE'RE SEEING AT GENERALLY DONE IN THE MARKETPLACE? AND I THINK THAT WITH EVERY DEVELOPMENT THAT I'VE HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF BEING A PART OF, I LEARNED NEW THINGS ABOUT WHO THE BUYERS ARE, ABOUT WHAT THEY APPRECIATE, AND THEN ALSO ABOUT THE COMMUNITIES. AND SO WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT, A FEW PIECES ABOUT THIS ONE IS, IS IT A HIGHER DENSITY DEVELOPMENT? ABSOLUTELY. IT IS. IT'S GEARED AROUND A, A LOWER MAINTENANCE LIFESTYLE IS WHAT I WOULD SAY. AND ALSO, THOUGH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S DIFFERENT, I'D SHARE WITH YOU ON THIS THAN WHAT WE DID ON GREENWOOD SQUARE IS THE CENTRAL PARK. SO EVERYBODY OR NOT EVERYBODY, MANY PEOPLE, THEY HAVE DOGS AND WE AND THEY WANT A PLACE FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO GET OUT, RUN, BE OUTSIDE. AND CERTAINLY PEOPLE THAT HAVE FAMILIES, WHEN YOU'RE BUILDING A MORE COMPACT STYLE, WE WANT TO HAVE COMMUNAL ASSETS THAT DRAW PEOPLE OUT TO CONNECT WITH THEIR NEIGHBORS AND TO BE ABLE TO ENJOY SOMETHING. AND SO AN INITIAL CONCEPT DESIGNS HAD LAID THIS OUT TO ACTUALLY HAVE FOUR MORE LOTS IN THAT AREA. AND AFTER SPENDING SOME TIME AND HAVING CONVERSATIONS, JUST CAME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT THE DEVELOPMENT NEEDED A HEARTBEAT AT THE CENTER OF IT. AND HAVING A MEANINGFUL COMMUNAL GREEN SPACE IS WHAT WE CAME TO WITH IT. EVERY DESIGN THAT YOU SEE IN THE IMAGE HERE IS, IS ACTUALLY A REAL HOME DESIGN. SO THESE AREN'T JUST MADE UP KIND OF RANDOM RENDERINGS OF THINGS, BUT THE RESULT OF, OF MANY HOURS WORKING WITH ARCHITECTURE TEAM AND THINKING THROUGH PRODUCT AND DESIGN OF WHAT WOULD BE EXCELLENT PRODUCT FOR THE AREA. THIS IS A SHOT TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF JUST SCALE THAT. AND THAT ISN'T A, WE DON'T HAVE PLANS YET FOR EXACTLY WHAT THE THE PARK WOULD LOOK LIKE. AS FAR AS THE AMENITIES. I DO THINK THAT LIKELY HAVING A PLACE THAT THERE IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE

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SO HAVING THAT, THE SOFTNESS OF GRASS AND TREES MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE. AND THEN WHEN YOU FAST FORWARD 20, 30 YEARS AND THOSE TREES MATURE AND YOU GET THE CANOPIES THAT MAKES THOSE TIMELESSLY BEAUTIFUL SPACES. AND SO THOSE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I'M PERSONALLY VERY EXCITED ABOUT. AND THEN ALSO THE WAY WE'VE PARKED THIS GREENWOOD SQUARE HAD 21 DEDICATED PARKING SPOTS. THE AND THE LEVEL OF DEDICATED PARKING THAT'S BEEN PROVIDED IN THIS WAS DONE REALLY BECAUSE THE NEIGHBORHOOD NEEDS TO FUNCTION AND WORK WELL. WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO MOVE INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND GET FRUSTRATED WHEN THEY INVITE FRIENDS OVER TO A DINNER PARTY AND THEY HAVE NO PLACE TO PARK. SO THERE'S A FEW THINGS I'D SHARE WITH YOU. HONESTLY, VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS IF IF IT WOULD. BLESS YOU GUYS. I'M HAPPY ALSO TO MAYBE ADDRESS SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU BROUGHT UP IN COMMENTS EARLIER. SO I'LL STOP TALKING NOW. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. THANK YOU. YEAH. SO IF YOU WANT TO, IF THERE'S A SPECIFIC THINGS YOU HEARD, MAYBE A LOT OF MY QUESTIONS OR OTHERS THAT YOU WANTED TO ADDRESS, IT'S PARTLY WHY I BROUGHT IT UP DURING THE STAFF PORTION SO YOU COULD THINK ABOUT IT. OH THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT. WELL, SO I'LL START WITH WHY THE 13FT. AND SO HERE'S HERE'S THE BALANCE IS THAT WITH THIS COMPACT DESIGN STYLE, SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY WANTED TO PRESERVE IS THE ABILITY TO HAVE DOWNSTAIRS MASTER BEDROOMS WHILE STILL HAVING OPEN SPACE, LIKE A LEVEL OF YARD WHERE IF SOMEONE HAS A DOG THAT THEY CAN LET THAT DOG OUT ON A RAINY DAY. AND THE CHALLENGE IS THAT WHEN YOU GIVE SUCH PRIMACY TO AN AUTOMOBILE IN. IF EVERYTHING WAS TO BE FORCED WAY BACK TO, YOU KNOW, THAT 20FT BEHIND THE SIDEWALK THAT DRIVES THAT MASTER UPSTAIRS EVERY TIME IT TAKES THAT OPTIONALITY IN THE PROGRAMING OF THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGNS AWAY. WHY THE 13FT ALSO IS THAT IF YOU HAVE PROPERTY LINE AND THEN A, AND THEN YOU HAVE A FIVE FOOT EASEMENT WHERE IT'S REALLY A JUST SHORT OF IT'S LIKE FOUR FEET, EIGHT INCHES IS TECHNICALLY THAT SIDEWALK WIDTH, WHICH IS EIGHT INCHES WIDER THAN A STANDARD SIDEWALK. SO WE WANT IT TO FEEL MORE GENEROUS AND WHATNOT. BUT THEN YOU HAVE APPROXIMATELY THREE FEET WHERE YOU CAN HAVE PLANTING AND WHATNOT. AND THEN THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE HITS AND YOU WANT TO BRING THAT GARAGE BACK A LITTLE BIT, JUST SO THAT YOU HAVE RELIEF IN THE FRONT ELEVATION AND YOU'RE NOT GARAGE FIRST. AND SO IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE IMAGERY HERE ON THESE, YOU CAN SEE JUST THAT LITTLE BIT OF SETBACK MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE IN THE MASSING AND FORM. SO THAT IT'S JUST HONESTLY PLEASING TO THE EYE. SO THAT'S THE THAT'S THE Y 13FT.

AND I THINK YOU ALREADY HEARD HOA WILL BE PROHIBITING PARKING ACROSS THE SIDEWALK. ON THE.

I'LL SPEAK TO THE THE EIGHT FOOT FENCE. IT IS MORE OF A PRIVACY DECISION. IT'S JUST YOU DON'T WANT AN EIGHT FOOT MASONRY. BUT TO HAVE AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE PROVIDES MORE PRIVACY. THERE. YOU CAN DO DOUBLE SIDED FENCING. IF THERE'S CONCERN ON. YOU CAN WRAP POSTS, YOU CAN DO THINGS I'M TRULY INDIFFERENT TO. WHAT IF THERE'S STRONG PREFERENCES AMONG THE COMMISSIONERS ON IT? HAPPY TO TO TO MEET THOSE. I THINK THAT. ON THAT JUST A WORD ON THE ON THE ON THE MANEUVERABILITY PIECE AND HOW WE USED AUTO TURN WITH THE F-150. SO IN THE CURRENT, IN THE CURRENT WAY THAT RESIDENTIAL THE R 1100 M AND OTHER RESIDENTIAL ZONING IS WRITTEN BECAUSE I BUILD A LOT OF TEARDOWNS IN RICHARDSON, WE

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AND THE REASON WHY IN THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGNS, EVERYTHING'S BEEN MASONRY, BUT I THINK ABOUT PERSONALLY, I THINK ABOUT HIGH QUALITY ARCHITECTURE. IT'S NOT THAT MAKING SOMETHING 100% MASONRY OR 75% MASONRY DOESN'T EQUAL THAT. SO WHEN WE DID MIMOSA PLACE, WHEN WE DEVELOPED THAT AND DID THE PD, THAT WAS BEFORE THAT LEGISLATION CAME THROUGH, AND WE WERE SPECIFIC ACTUALLY TO PROVIDE FLEXIBILITY TO DO NON MASONRY. SO WE HAVE LIKE FARMHOUSE STYLE, CRAFTSMAN STYLE. SO WHEN YOU'RE DOING THAT CEMENTITIOUS SIDING AND THINGS TO BE HISTORICALLY CORRECT OR IN KEEPING WITH A CERTAIN DESIGN STYLE THAT THAT HAVING THE FLEXIBILITY REALLY HELPS, RIGHT? SO THE INTENT IS HIGH QUALITY DESIGN. I WOULD GENERALLY, PEOPLE TEND TO FAVOR BRICK HERE IN THIS SUBMARKET AND THEY WOULD HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO CHOOSE THOUGH. OKAY, SO LAST QUESTION ON THAT. HAVE YOU. OR IS THAT ALSO UP TO THE CUSTOMER OR THAT WOULD BE CUSTOMER SPECIFIC AND IDEALLY WOULD BE DIVERSE. SO LET'S SAY THAT WHAT GETS BUILT, IT COULD BE EVERY HOUSE IS UNIQUE. IT COULD END UP BEING LIKE PROGRAMMATICALLY. WHAT YOU SEE IN FRONT OF YOU ARE ABOUT ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, 4 OR 5 DIFFERENT UNIT TYPES IN FOR PURPOSES OF THE RENDERING, WE APPLIED DIFFERENT BRICKS IN IN TO PROVIDE THAT DIVERSITY. PERSONALLY, I'D RATHER SEE A HIGH DIVERSITY THERE THAT FEELS MORE LIKE LIKE HOPEFULLY IT BUILDS QUICKLY, BUT YOU WANT IT TO FEEL LIKE IT'S EVOLVED OVER TIME AND THAT EACH HOUSE HAS ITS OWN IDENTITY, EVEN IF SOME OF THE ELEVATIONS ARE THE SAME OR SIMILAR. ALL RIGHT. THANKS. OKAY. THANK YOU AGAIN, JUST A CURIOSITY QUESTION, BUT I NOTICED HERE WE'VE GOT AN 1100 SQUARE FOOT MODEL, WHICH SEEMS SUBSTANTIALLY SMALLER THAN ESPECIALLY GREENWOOD SQUARE, WHICH I THINK WAS LIKE 2100, 2200. IS THAT JUST INDICATIVE OF WHAT YOU'RE KIND OF SEEING IN THE MARKET NOW THAT PEOPLE ARE PREFERRING SMALLER FOOTPRINTS? AND THEN SO THAT WAS QUESTION NUMBER ONE. AND NUMBER TWO, WHAT WHAT DO YOU SEE OF THE RANGES OF SQUARE FOOT SQUARE FOOTAGE MODELS IN THIS BUILD? SO BECAUSE THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL TO THE NORTH IS R 1100 M SIMILAR TO GREENWOOD SQUARE, THAT'S Y R 1100 M WAS CHOSEN AS THE BASE ZONING. AND THAT'S THE ONLY REASON THAT 1100 SQUARE FEET IS THE MINIMUM. THAT'S NO WAY THAT'S GOING TO BE WHAT'S BUILT. NO WAY. THAT'S WHAT'S BEING BUILT IN GREENWOOD SQUARE RIGHT NOW IS THEY'RE DELIVERING PRODUCT APPROXIMATELY 2500FT■!S.

I BELIEVE THAT THIS PRODUCT, PARTICULARLY BECAUSE THIS SITE FEEDS INTO MOHAWK ELEMENTARY AND HAVING THE GREEN SPACE, I WANT THIS TO BE ATTRACTIVE TO FOLKS THAT HAVE KIDS AS WELL.

AND. YEAH. AND SO I THINK THAT. FORGIVE ME, I LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT WITH YOUR, YOUR QUESTION ONE MORE TIME. YOU ANSWERED THE FIRST PART. I WAS SURPRISED TO SEE THAT AGAIN, JUST A MINIMUM OF 1100. WAS THAT A REALITY? AND THEN WHAT WOULD THE ACTUAL RANGES OF THE, THE CONCEPT, THE PRODUCT THAT YOU SEE IN THESE CONCEPT IMAGES IS BETWEEN ABOUT 33,000FT AND

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YEAH. SO I'M SPEAKING AS A CUSTOMER. IF I ARRIVED AND SAID I'M INTERESTED IN A HOME, HOW WOULD I, HOW WOULD I KNOW WHAT MY RANGE OF OPTIONS WERE? BRICK, NOT BRICK, ETC. YEAH, THE SALES PERSON WOULD, WOULD COMMUNICATE THAT WHETHER IT'S A LIKE, HERE'S OPTIONS ON PLANS, HERE'S THIS COMMUNITY, WHAT THE HOA HAS LAID OUT AS FAR AS THE KIND OF THE LANE. HOW DOES HOA PREEXIST PEOPLE LIVING THERE? YOU. SO IT GETS CREATED AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE DEVELOPMENT. AND SO THE. SO THE DEVELOPER ACTS AS WHAT'S CALLED THE DECLARA. YEAH. UNTIL IT'S TRANSFERRED. RIGHT, EXACTLY. SO IT'S REALLY YOU, THE HOA, RIGHT. IT WOULD LIKELY BE. SO IN THE PAST, I'VE HAD A HOME BUILDING COMPANY WITH A TEAM AND WE BUILT THE VERTICAL PRODUCT. MY INTENT IS PERSONALLY THAT I WON'T BE STAFFING UP TO BUILD ALL 40 OF THESE. AND SO THE BUILDER THAT I CHOOSE FOR THE VERTICAL PORTION OF THIS, THEY WILL BE LIKELY THE DECLARANT FOR THAT. OKAY. WOULD IT BE A SINGLE BUILDER OR MULTIPLE BUILDERS? I SO I DON'T KNOW, IT WOULD BE THE HONEST ANSWER, BUT MY DESIRE IS FOR IT TO BE A SINGLE BUILDER. OKAY, SO WHAT I SEE IN THIS RENDERING OTHER THAN OR VISUAL IS. COMPLIMENTS TO YOU FOR THE FOR THE TREES OUTCROP TREES, BUT IT MAY NOT LOOK LIKE THIS AT ALL. IT'S VERY TRUE. YEAH. OKAY, SO, SO WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE LAND HERE AND THE CONCEPT VERSUS THE APPEARANCE, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE. I DON'T CAN'T I'M AGAIN ASKING CURIOSITY QUESTION. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY NO. EXCELLENT QUESTION. AND I THINK THAT WHAT DRIVES THE HIGHER QUALITY ON DESIGN, IN THE QUALITY OF THE BUILDER AND DOING THAT IS THE ECONOMICS OF IT AS WELL. AND SO I'M CONFIDENT THAT THE PARTNER THAT'S GOING TO BE CHOSEN FOR THIS IS GOING TO BE ONE THAT CAN EXECUTE. AND IT MATTERS TO ME THAT THEY WOULD EXECUTE WITH EXCELLENCE AND QUALITY, BUT IT COULD BE PARTNERS. IT COULD BE YOU COULD HAVE THE SMALLER HOMES ON TO TO POLTI AND THE OTHERS TO A LOCAL BUILDER TYPE OF THING. COULD BE. YEAH. AND THAT'S PRETTY, THAT'S COMMON THAT IT'S DONE THAT WAY. IT'S NOT MY PERSONAL PREFERENCE TODAY. I WOULD RATHER HAVE A STRONGER QUALITY AND ESTHETIC STANDARD. THAT'S THAT'S ACROSS THE BOARD FOR THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT. OKAY. THANK YOU.

YEAH. BEFORE I GO TO YOU JUST I WAS JUST GOING TO MAKE A COMMENT. I MEAN, I REMEMBER WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT GREENWOOD SQUARE AND SEEING ALL THE LOVELY RENDERINGS, AND I THINK THEY WERE WHITE WITH KIND OF, YOU KNOW, DARK ACCENTS AND EVERYTHING. AND OBVIOUSLY IT DID NOT END UP THAT WAY. AND I, I HAD THE IMPRESSION YOU WERE BUILDING GREENWOOD SQUARE AND IT ENDED UP BEING D.R. HORTON. SO I GUESS. DID YOU END UP SELLING TO D.R. HORTON OR YOU JUST PICKED HIM AS A BUILDER? YEAH, SO SO REALLY, I'LL SHARE MAYBE MORE THE FULLER STORY ON THAT WOULD BE THAT PERSONALLY, I SPENT UNTOLD HOURS IN DESIGNING EVERY DETAIL OF THAT DEVELOPMENT, INCLUDING ALL THE PRODUCT WITH THE FULL INTENTION TO BUILD THAT PRODUCT. AND WHAT

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AND IN OUR CONVERSATIONS, I ACTUALLY INITIALLY REQUESTED THAT THEY BUILD MY PRODUCT. AND BECAUSE I WAS VERY PASSIONATE FOR THAT IN UNFORTUNATELY, THAT DID NOT BECOME A REALITY. AND I THINK THAT I WON'T SAY UNFORTUNATELY, BECAUSE I REALLY LOVED WHAT I DID, NOT SAYING I DON'T LIKE WHAT THEY'RE DOING, BUT THEY, THEY COMMUNICATED THEIR DESIRE TO EXECUTE A QUALITY PRODUCT AND BRING IT TO MARKET. I'M ENCOURAGED THAT THEY'VE THEY'VE COME AND PUT THE FULL FORCE OF THEIR LARGE HOME BUILDING COMPANY TO IT. AND, AND THEY ARE BRINGING HOMEOWNERS IN AND THEY'RE BUILDING PRODUCT. IT'S DIFFERENT PRODUCT THAN, THAN I WOULD PERSONALLY BUILD. BUT IT IS, BUT IT'S, IT'S BRINGING FOLKS THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT NEED HOUSING TO BE HERE AND HAVE, HAVE GOOD HOMES AND BE IN THE AREA. YEAH. WELL, THANK THANKS FOR THE BACKGROUND THERE. YEAH. TELLING US THAT. AND I WAS DISAPPOINTED TOO, BECAUSE I WAS REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THE DESIGN THAT YOU HAD COME UP WITH. AND SO WHEN I, YOU KNOW, AS IT STARTED TO BE BUILT, YOU KNOW, I WAS, IT JUST WASN'T WHAT I WAS EXPECTING IN TERMS OF THE LOOK OF IT. SO JUST TO BE FAIR TO EVERYBODY ON THE COMMISSION AND IN THE PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THIS PROJECT, GREENWOOD PARK, THE YOU HAVEN'T DECIDED YOU HAVEN'T MADE THAT DECISION IF YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD IT OR IF IT'S GOING TO BE SOMEBODY ELSE OR.

IS IS IT? THAT'S FAIR TO SAY. RIGHT. I WOULD BE EVEN I THINK MORE ACCURATE IS THAT AT THIS STAGE OF LIFE FOR ME, WITH A SMALLER FOOTPRINT OF A BUSINESS IN FIVE YOUNG KIDS THAT I PLAN TO FIND THAT QUALITY BUILDER TO BE ABLE TO EXECUTE THE VERTICAL ON THIS. AND I'M ASSUMING THAT WE'RE TALKING THE SAME PRICE RANGE AS GREENWOOD SQUARE. I ROUGHLY KNOW NO. SO SO I THINK INITIALLY HORTON MADE A STRATEGIC DECISION WITH GREENWOOD TO HIT A MORE AFFORDABLE PRICE POINT. IN. THE GOOD SIDE OF THAT IS THAT THEY ARE OPENING UP THE OPPORTUNITY TO LIVE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD TO A LOT MORE PEOPLE. RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE SELLING PRODUCT AT APPROXIMATELY $600,000 IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. I WOULD SAY THAT FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, I BELIEVE THAT IT IS A IT IS A MEANINGFUL STEP UPWARD WITH REGARD TO PRICE POINT AND SIZE.

AND SO AS I SIT DOWN AND HAVE CONVERSATIONS, THE REASON WHY I PERSONALLY SPENT MANY HOURS TRULY DESIGNING THE PRODUCT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS TO SIT DOWN AND TALK TO THOSE POTENTIAL BUILDER PARTNERS, THOSE THAT WOULD DO THE VERTICAL LINE AND GO, HEY GUYS, HERE'S WHAT I BELIEVE. THIS IS WHAT THE MARKET IS. THIS IS THE RIGHT POSITIONING OF IT. AND HERE ARE HERE IS THOUGHTFUL PLANS THAT MEET THE MARKET IN THESE WAYS. AND I PERSONALLY BELIEVE THAT THE MARKET FOR THOSE PLANS WOULD BE MORE IN THAT CALL IT 800,000 TO 1 MILLION, TWO PRICE POINT. NOW THERE IS FLEXIBILITY BECAUSE PEOPLE COULD BUILD, THEY COULD BUILD LARGER, THEY COULD BUILD SMALLER. AND SO I JUST WANT TO BE. MOST OF ALL, WANT THE COMMISSIONERS WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WHAT YOU'RE HEARING FROM ME IS ME BEING 100% HONEST WITH YOU. THERE'S NO NO SMOKE AND MIRRORS. I CAN SHARE WITH YOU WHAT I'M CONFIDENT OF AND NO. AND THEN THINGS THAT IT'S AN I DON'T KNOW OR, OR IT COULD LOOK DIFFERENT. I THINK I WANT TO BE HONEST AND SHARE THOSE THINGS WITH YOU TOO. SO ROUGHLY $300 A SQUARE FOOT, PLUS OR MINUS FOR A FINISHED PRODUCT. YEAH. ISH. YEAH. OKAY. SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING THAT WE SOMETIMES TALK ABOUT AS A CITY. IT'S CERTAINLY MEETING A DEMAND, RIGHT? THERE'S, THERE'S A DEMAND FOR THAT PRODUCT. BUT IN TERMS OF PRICE POINT, IT'S NOT THAT I THINK IS WHAT WE WOULD DEFINE AS MISSING MIDDLE MIDDLE HOUSING. CORRECT? I WOULD NOT

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SORRY FOR THE INTERRUPTION. THERE. SOMEONE MENTIONED EARLIER HAD A QUESTION EARLIER ABOUT THE HOA. THE QUESTION THEN WAS WHETHER IT'S A SINGULAR HOA FOR THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT, OR IS IT PART OF A LARGER HOA. BUT TO EXPAND ON THAT A LITTLE BIT, MY QUESTION IS JUST IT SOUNDED LIKE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE HOA HAVING DESIGN INFLUENCE.

AND SO TWO PART QUESTION. FIRST PART IS THAT THE SECOND PART WOULD BE WHAT IS THE INVOLVEMENT OF THE HOA? YOU KNOW, EARLY ON IN THE DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS. SO SO FIRST QUESTION IS THAT 100% STANDALONE HOA JUST FOR THESE 40 UNITS. SO THAT'S THE ANSWER TO THAT. AND THEN HOW THE HOA FUNCTIONS IS THAT. SO THE BUILDER THAT ACTUALLY IS BUILDING THAT VERTICAL, THE VERTICAL PRODU WE'RE GOING TO, I'M GOING TO MAKE THE ASSUMPTION HERE FOR SAKE OF OUR CONVERSATION. IT'S ONE SINGLE BUILDER. AND THAT BUILDER ACTS AS THE DECLARANT AND THAT DECLARANT, WHILE HOA DOCS WILL CREATE COVENANTS, CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS AND BYLAWS OF HOW IT FUNCTIONS. BUT IN THAT WE'LL DESCRIBE BOTH WHAT ARCHITECTURAL TYPICALLY, WHAT ARCHITECTURAL CONTROLS ARE, WHAT THE STANDARDS ARE, AND THEN THE MECHANISM BY WHICH THOSE ARE APPROVED. AND AS A NEIGHBORHOOD'S BUILDING OUT, TYPICALLY THE WAY A HOME BUILDER WILL DO THAT WHEN THEY ARE THE SOLE DECLARANT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IS THAT THAT DECLARANT HAS FULL CONTROL UNTIL THE COMMUNITY IS BUILT OUT. SO EVERY PLAN THAT THAT GETS SUBMITTED, WELL, ONE, IT'S, IT'S THEY'RE THE BUILDER. AND SO THEY'RE GOING TO LEGISLATE THAT ARCHITECTURAL CONTROL IN AT SUCH POINT THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS COMPLETED. TYPICALLY, THEN THE DECLARANT IS TURNING OVER THAT HOA TO, TO THE BOARD. WHO THEN IS GOING TO MANAGE THOSE REQUIREMENTS INTO PERPETUITY? DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YEAH, IT DOES. DEFINITELY. JUST WILD FOLLOW UP. THE HOA IS NOT PARTICIPATING AS ANY KIND OF A CAPITAL PARTNER IN THE DEVELOPMENT, ARE THEY? NO, THE HOA, IT'S AN ENTITY THAT IT SIMPLY IS CREATED DURING THE HORIZONTAL DEVELOPMENT PHASE OF IT THAT HOA GETS CREATED. AND TYPICALLY THE HOA IS THE DEVELOPER ACTUALLY CEDES THE HOA WITH CAPITAL FOR ITS INITIAL STARTUP. OKAY. THANK YOU. MR. POINTER. JUST TO DOU CHECK YOU ARE REPRESENTING YOU OWN THE PROPERTY. I DO NOT OWN THE PROPERTY. I'M SEEKING TO OWN THE PROPERTY. SO I HAVE THE PROPERTY UNDER CONTRACT TO PURCHASE IT. OKAY. THE CURRENT OWNERS IS STILL THE THE RETIREMENT HOME OR THE IT IS THE IT IS THE ENTITY THAT OWNS

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WOULD ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO COME FORWARD? IT LOOKS GOOD. MY NAME IS BONNIE GORDON. I LIVE AT 805 WISTERIA WAY, SO I'M JUST DOWN THE STREET FROM THESE GUYS. THERE'S JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS I'M. I'M NOT FOR OR AGAINST. I'VE BEEN IN RICHARDSON AS A RESIDENT SINCE 1984. I'VE SEEN BUSINESSES GO UP. I'VE SEEN THEM LAST. I'VE SEEN THEM COME DOWN. IF IT RAISES MY PROPERTY VALUE, I'M ALL FOR IT. THE THING IS, I AM DIRECTLY ATTACHED TO THAT ALLEY AND WHERE I. MY HOUSE SITS RIGHT NOW IS I SEE THE BACK OF THE SENIOR HOME AND NOT NOT THE SENIOR CENTER, BUT WHAT WAS THE COTTONWOOD OR WHATEVER. IT'S BEEN THREE DIFFERENT NAMES SINCE I'VE BEEN THERE. WHEN I BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY JUST TEN YEARS AGO, I BOUGHT IT WITH THE IDEA, OH, THIS IS GREAT. THERE'S A REST HOME BACK THERE. THEY'RE NEVER GOING TO BE ABLE TO BUILD ANYTHING ELSE. AND SO I KIND OF THOUGHT I FELT SECURE IN THAT. IT DOESN'T BOTHER ME

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BECAUSE WE, I HEAR THE FIRE ENGINES PROBABLY EVERY NIGHT, AT LEAST ONE ALMOST EVERY NIGHT COMING FROM, YOU KNOW, STATION TWO. AND THOSE FIRE ENGINES ARE CAN THEY FIT THROUGH THE STREETS? I DON'T KNOW, HOPEFULLY THEY'D NEVER BE ONE. BUT I THINK THAT'S A CONCERN THAT PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE. WHEN MR. CALDWELL MENTIONED THE SCHOOL IS MOHAWK ELEMENTARY.

OKAY, SO I GUESS THAT'S PROBABLY RIGHT. IT SEEMS LIKE MOHAWK'S FARTHER AWAY FROM THE DEVELOPMENT THAN, SAY, ONE OR THE OTHER RICHARDSON ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, BUT IF YOU'VE CHECKED INTO IT, THAT'S FINE. ANYWAY, I, I JUST MY, ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS DID SAY THEY'RE CONCERNED AND THEY'RE, THEY LIVE TO THE EAST OF ME. THEY'RE RIGHT NEXT TO THE EAST. THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE VIEW BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT A BEAUTIFUL GARDEN IN THEIR YARD. AND RIGHT NOW WE SEE THE TREES AND THE SKY. AND YEAH, THERE'S A BRICK WALL THERE BETWEEN THE ALLEY AND THE THE REST HOME, BUT YOU CAN BASICALLY LOOK UP AND YOU CAN SEE, WELL, THESE HOUSES ARE GOING TO BE TWO STORIES HIGH AND MY HOUSE IS ONE STORY. IT WAS NOT GOING TO BE A GREAT VIEW. AND I DID WONDER ALSO ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTION TRUCKS COMING IN TO TEAR DOWN THAT CURRENT BUILDING AND MOVE ALL THE BRICK IN THE CEMENT AND EVERYTHING THAT'S GOT TO BE. I WORKED AT UT DALLAS ALMOST TWO DECADES. I'VE SEEN CONSTRUCTION OVER AND OVER AGAIN. IT'S LOUD, IT'S NOISY, IT'S DIRTY. AM I AGAINST IT? NO. I JUST KNOW WHAT I'M GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH IF IT GOES THROUGH. BUT I CAN SEE THE PROS OF IT TOO. SO THAT BEING SAID, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT, MR. CALDWELL, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME BACK UP AND MAYBE ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS YOU JUST HEARD? I'D BE DELIGHTED TO. I THINK ONE OF THE GENTLEMEN AT 820 WISTERIA WAY. I'M SORRY, SIR, WHAT WAS YOUR NAME AGAIN? MARTIN. THANKS FOR YOUR KIND WORDS, MARTIN. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. REGARDING THE TRAFFIC IS. LET'S SEE HERE.

LET'S SEE IF I CAN. SO THE THERE'S TWO WAYS TO GET IN OR OUT OF THE DEVELOPMENT, AND BOTH ARE OFF OF WESTSHORE FOR CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC. AND SO THERE SHOULD BE NOBODY PARKING UP ON LIKE DRIVING WISTERIA AND THEN HAVING TO DO A LONG WALK AROUND. IT JUST WOULDN'T NECESSARILY. CONSTRUCTION WORKERS TEND TO WANT TO PARK AS CLOSE AS POSSIBLE TO THE TO THE SITE, AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO EXPERIENCE ANY OF THAT. AND THEN WITH REGARD TO THE VIEWS, THE HEIGHT, MAXIMUM THAT IS BEING PROPOSED IS JUST THE DEFAULT HEIGHT, MAXIMUM OF A TWO STORY HOUSE IN THE R 1100 M ZONING DISTRICT, WHICH IS THE SAME AS THAT YOU LIVE IN NOW. SO TECHNICALLY SOMEONE COULD COULD BUILD A HOUSE RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO YOUR HOME AND HAVE THAT HEIGHT AND HAVE AN EVEN STRONGER VIEW THAN BEING SEPARATED BY A 20 FOOT ALLEY. AND THEN I WANT TO SAY YOUR REAR SETBACK IS MAYBE 25 OR 30F I'D HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK ON THAT. SO CAN THERE BE SOME VIEW RISK WITH WITH TWO STORY PRODUCT? HONESTLY, THERE ALWAYS IS. IS IT DIFFERENT IN KIND OR MORE IMPOSING THAN WHAT ALREADY IS LEGALLY ABLE TO HAPPEN ON WISTERIA? I'D ENSURE THAT IT ISN'T, BUT I MEAN VALID, A VERY VALID CONCERN, I UNDERSTAND THAT. CAN I JUST STOP YOU RIGHT THERE? YES, SIR. JUST I JUST WANT TO DOUBLE CHECK. IS THAT IS THAT TRUE? THAT 40FT IS THE DEFAULT BUILDING HEIGHT IN OUR 1100? YES, THAT IS CORRECT. THAT'S THE DEFAULT BUILDING HEIGHT IN MOST OF OUR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS SEEMS HIGH FOR I MEAN, FOR TWO STORIES. I MEAN, A TWO STORY HOME IS NOT 40FT. I WAS GOING TO SAY IT'S WHAT WE ALLOW IS THE DEFAULT IN OUR ZONING DISTRICT. I THINK IT YOU KNOW, IT VARIES HOW A HOUSE IS DESIGNED, BUT IT'S THE 40 FOOT HEIGHT MAXIMUM IS WHAT WE USE. AND DEREK, I REFRESHED MY MEMORY. DO WE MEASURE TO THE TOP RIDGE OF THE STRUCTURE OR DO WE MEASURE TO THE MIDPOINT? WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK THAT UP. IT DEPENDS ON THE TYPE OF ROOF, BUT WE'LL LOOK OKAY. SO MAYBE THAT'S WHAT I'M NOT THINKING OF.

YOU CAN HAVE A TWO STOREY. THE SECOND FLOOR CEILING COULD BE 25FT OR SO, BUT THEN YOU'VE GOT

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OKAY. SO AND NO PRINCIPAL BUILDING SHALL EXCEED TWO STOREYS IN HEIGHT. ALL RIGHT. I THINK THAT WOULD ALLEVIATE SOME CONCERNS OVER PEOPLE LOOKING IN THEIR BACKYARDS, YOU KNOW, NEIGHBORS AND THAT SORT OF THING. IT'LL STILL OBVIOUSLY IT'S GOING TO BE A DIFFERENT VIEW THAN FROM WHAT'S THERE TODAY. SO BUT THE WITH THE EXISTING RETAIL ZONING, THE THE 40FT IS DOES HAVE A SETBACK REQUIREMENT OF 50FT, I BELIEVE FROM A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

DID I READ THAT CORRECTLY? SORRY. COULD YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION? THE EXISTING RETAIL ZONING HAS A BUILDING HEIGHT OF 15FT WITHIN I'M SORRY, 40FT WITHIN HIGH WITHIN 50FT OF A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. YES, I BELIEVE THAT'S CORRECT. I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S CONFORMING, BUT I BELIEVE IT IS. LET'S SEE. IT'S IN THE EXISTING ZONING ON PAGE TWO, A MAXIMUM OF TWO STORIES. IF SET BACK A MINIMUM OF 50FT FROM PROPERTY ZONED RESIDENTIAL. YES. WHEN THE COTTONWOOD OR WHATEVER IT WAS ORIGINALLY CALLED WAS FIRST APPROVED AS A NURSING HOME ASSISTED LIVING CENTER IN 1988, IT WAS APPROVED WITH A SPECIAL PERMIT THAT DID ADDRESS HEIGHT, SO THE NURSING HOME WAS LIMITED TO BE TWO STORIES. WHEN SET BACK 50FT FROM THE PROPERTY LINE ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL. IT WASN'T A BUILDING HEIGHT. NO. IT WAS A ■NO. TWO STORIES. THEY JUST SAID STORIES. YES. BUT IN THIS CASE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE NEW HOMES WOULD BE CLOSER THAN 50FT. YES THEY WILL. YEAH. REALISTICALLY THEY'RE GOING TO BE ROUGHLY 25FT. YEAH. HALF THE DISTANCE. OKAY. SORRY. I JUST WANTED TO GET THE BUILDING HEIGHTS ISSUE OUT OF THE WAY CLARIFIED WITH STAFF. SO IF I COULD OFFER A POINT. YEAH. SO I CONFIRMED WITH ERICA, IN YOUR PROPOSED PD STANDARDS, WE'RE NOT PROPOSING TO DEVIATE FROM THE HEIGHT DIMENSIONS THAT ARE PROVIDED FOR IN THE R 1100 BASED ZONING. SO THAT REMAINS THE SAME WHEN CONSIDERING THAT IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S IMMEDIATELY TO THE NORTH. OKAY. I THINK THAT BONNIE, YOU ASKED ABOUT THE FIRE ACCESS, WHICH JUST TO BRIEFLY COMMENT ON THAT. THE WAY THE STREET SECTIONS WERE CREATED HERE, THEY HAVE TO BE BLESSED BY THE FIRE MARSHAL.

AND WE ACTUALLY INITIALLY, WHEN THIS WAS LAID OUT, I CONCEPTED ALL THE STREETS TO BE THE STANDARD RESIDENTIAL STREET SECTION, WHICH IS 27FT BACK TO BACK OF CURB OR 26FT FACE TO FACE. HOWEVER, BECAUSE THE PROPENSITY OF FOLKS TO PARK ON BOTH SIDES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT SAID THAT GETS TIGHT SOMETIMES IN TOUGH. IN THOSE SITUATIONS. AND BY PROVIDING THE STREET SECTIONS WE DID HERE, IT ACTUALLY PROVIDES A MEANINGFUL

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THANK YOU. SHALL WE GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? I'D MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND, A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER SHEK. ALL IN FAVOR, COMMISSIONER POINTER? YEP. THAT'S UNANIMOUS. CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. WELL, AGAIN, I YOU KNOW, I, I ASK A LOT OF QUESTIONS JUST BECAUSE I WANT TO UNDERSTAND. AND, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS SOME THINGS THAT WERE JUMPING OUT TO ME ABOUT THIS. HOW AGAIN, HOW COMPACT IS. I KNOW THAT'S PART OF THE NATURE OF THE DESIGN OF THE PROJECT, BUT ALSO LOOKING AT GREENWOOD SQUARE AND WHAT HOW THAT TURNED OUT. I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO SEE US MAKE, I'M NOT GOING TO SAY MISTAKES, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S IT IS WHAT IT IS. BUT WERE THERE THINGS WE CAN IMPROVE UPON? AND, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT OF THAT IS CONGESTION WITHIN THE PARK ITSELF. YOU KNOW, THE STREETS, THE PARKING, CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC, YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE SORT OF THINGS, DRIVEWAYS. AND. YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I DO WORRY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THESE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS, YOU KNOW, NOT HAVING ENOUGH FOR VISITORS. AND, YOU KNOW, YOU GET A FAMILY IN THERE THAT THEY'VE GOT TEENAGERS THAT ARE DRIVING OR, YOU KNOW, THE MOTHER IN LAW THAT'S STAYING WITH THEM. YOU KNOW, ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S MORE THAN TWO VEHICLES PER HOME. AND I KNOW THAT WE HAVE THAT IN EACH OF THESE WITH THE GARAGES ON SITE, BUT PEOPLE TEND TO FILL THOSE UP WITH JUNK AND, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S THAT'S, THAT'S MY CONCERNS THAT OVER TIME, YOU KNOW, IT BECOMES OVERLY CONGESTED WITH, WITH PARKING AND VEHICLES AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN IT LOSES ITS CHARACTER. SO I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S WELL THOUGHT THROUGH. AND THE FACT I THINK, YOU KNOW, IT WAS JUST, IT WAS CONCERNING TO ME ABOUT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW THE. THE HOMES SORT OF ON THE SOUTH SIDE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE HAD LESS ACCESS TO PARKING, VISITOR PARKING THAN THOSE PERHAPS ON THE NORTH SIDE OR THE WEST SIDE. BUT I DO LIKE THE ADDITION OF THE, THE PUBLIC OPEN SPACE, KIND OF THE CENTRAL PARK. I THINK THAT'S A BIG IMPROVEMENT. AND YOU REALLY ANSWERED ALL MY OTHER QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS. SO I DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE. MR. VICE CHAIRMAN YEAH, SO I LIKE THE PROJECT. I LIKE SEVERAL THINGS THAT THE APPLICANT'S DONE. IN PARTICULAR, I LIKE THE OUTREACH THAT YOU DID AS A CITIZEN OF OUR CITY FOR SO LONG. I THINK YOU HAVE COME TO APPRECIATE WHY RICHARDSON IS A SPECIAL PLACE.

AND SO WHENEVER YOU TALK TO THE HOA AND YOU MAKE YOURSELF AVAILABLE TO ALL THE NEIGHBORS, THAT'S WHY THAT'S ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS WHY RICHARDSON'S A SPECIAL PLACE. SO THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT AND ACKNOWLEDGING IT AS SUCH. HOUSING IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED. AND WHILE THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY THE MISSING MIDDLE, IT'S IT'S SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING. WE GET BEAT UP A LOT WITH DENSITY. WHENEVER WE'RE LOOKING AT PROJECTS ALL ACROSS OUR CITY AND THE REGION FOR THAT MATTER. AND SO THIS IS A PROJECT THAT HAS SOME DENSITY TO IT, BUT IT'S STILL SINGLE FAMILY. SO I LIKE THAT AND I LIKE HAVING A MIX OF PRODUCT. YEAH, IT'S WEIRD TO SAY, BUT

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JUST THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING, AT LEAST IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. AND, AND THE REALITY IS, IS THAT YOU'VE FIGURED OUT A WAY TO INCORPORATE SOME GREEN SPACE PARKING WE KNOW IS GOING TO BE A CHALLENGE. AND SO YOU'VE BEEN AS THOUGHTFUL AS YOU CAN. SO I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH. I ALSO JUST WANTED TO THINK THROUGH, AND, YOU KNOW, THE IDEA HERE OF ME BEING A RICHARDSON CITIZEN. AND SO THIS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TAX VALUE WAS, IS THE OF THE NURSING HOME.

I'M GOING TO CALL IT 10 MILLION. AND I'M GOING TO SAY THAT THIS IS A $40 MILLION PROJECT. AND SO WHEN I START PUTTING MATH TO THAT FROM A CITY PERSPECTIVE, AND, AND THE TAX AND THE SCHOOLS, ALL OF WHICH NEED HELP FROM A JUST A BUDGET PERSPECTIVE, AND I THINK, WELL, WE CAN INCREMENTALLY GROW OUR TAX BASE BY BRINGING HOUSING IN IN A DENSE WAY THAT'S THOUGHTFULLY DONE THAT I THINK FITS THE ESSENCE OF RICHARDSON AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I JUST THINK WE NEED MORE OF THESE PROJECTS, AND IT'S JUST HARD BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A LOT OF GREEN SPACE. AND SO IT TAKES CREATIVITY AND THOUGHTFULNESS TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO TAKE FOUR ACRES AND TURN IT INTO 40 HOMES. SO I WILL SUPPORT THIS PROJECT. MR. POINTER, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THIS PROJECT, AND I'M BASING IT ON THIS LETTER OF SUPPORT, AND IT SAYS BASED ON THE PROJECT RENDERINGS, IT PROMISES AN ATTRACTIVE MODERN ESTHETIC THAT WILL SIGNIFICANTLY UPGRADE THE APPEARANCE OF THIS PART OF OUR CITY. SO IF THEY SAW THESE RENDERINGS THAT I ASKED ABOUT OR VISUALIZATIONS, HOWEVER WE WANT TO CALL THEM, THAT MAY NOT BE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE PRODUCT. SO IF THAT WAS SHARED WITH HOMEOWNERS, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT WHAT HOMEOWNERS SAW. SO DO YOU KNOW ANYBODY IN THE DID WAS THIS SHARED? AND THE OTHER BRICK RENDERING WAS THAT SHARED WITH NEARBY HOMEOWNERS, ADJACENT HOMEOWNERS? THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. IF IT'S UP TO YOU, CHAIR, IF YOU WANT THEM TO ADDRESS IT. ONE OF THE POINTS, THOUGH, IS THAT AS A AS A PLANNING COMMISSION, WE CANNOT DICTATE THE MATERIALS ABSOLUTELY DO NOT WANT TO DICTATE. BUT I DO WANT TO COMMUNICATE CLEARLY AND TRANSPARENCY TO THE NEIGHBORS I REPRESENT IN REPRESENTING WHAT A CITIZEN MIGHT THINK THAT THEY SAW THESE RENDERINGS, THOUGHT IT WAS GREAT, AND THEN IT TURNS OUT TO BE SOMETHING ELSE. SO. SO IN THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, THERE WERE NO ARCHITECTURAL REQUIREMENTS. THERE IS NOTHING WITH RESPECT TO MATERIALS. IN PART, WE TRIED TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE DESIGN CONSIDERATIONS, AT LEAST FROM A SETBACKS AND UNDULATION. BUT TO TO YOUR POINT, THERE'S NOTHING THAT WOULD GUARANTEE THOSE RENDERINGS IF THEY WERE SHOWN TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THAT WOULD BE BUILT. OKAY. BUT DID THE NEIGHBORS THINK THAT THAT WAS WHAT IS GOING TO BE BUILT? I HAVE NO IDEA. I HAVE NOT HAD ANY CONVERSATIONS WITH ANY OF THE NEIGHBORS. ALL I HAVE IS THE LETTERS RECEIVED IN THE PACKET. COULD WE CLOSE THE HEARING AND ASK ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS IF THAT'S WHAT THEY. WE ALREADY CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING. ARE YOU SEEKING TO REOPEN IT? I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE NEIGHBOR SAW IF THEY SAW THOSE RENDERINGS. IT MAY NOT BE A PROBLEM FOR THEM, BUT THAT'S PART OF BEING TRANSPARENCY. IF THEY SAW THE SITE PLAN AND THEY THINK THAT'S AN ATTRACTIVE MODERN ESTHETIC, THEN THAT'S FINE. I AGREE, I LIKE THE PROJECT, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT THE WHAT THE NEIGHBOR SAW WAS EITHER SAID, THIS IS REPRESENTATIVE OF. WELL, I HAVE TO ASSUME THAT THESE ARE THE ONLY PROJECT RENDERINGS THAT ARE AVAILABLE THAT HAVE BEEN PRODUCED. SO IF THEY DID SEE SOME RENDERINGS, THIS IS PROBABLY THE SAME ONES WE'RE LOOKING AT. OKAY, I'M GETTING A HEAD NOD, SO I'M ASSUMING THAT'S OKAY. SO FOR ME THAT'S NOT COMFORTABLE. DOESN'T MEAN I'M AGAINST THE PROJECT, BUT THAT'S NOT COMFORTABLE FOR ME. OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ANYBODY CARE TO MAKE A MOTION? I WILL YEAH, YEAH. I WAS ACTUALLY JUST GOING TO VICE CHAIRMAN BASICALLY SAID EVERYTHING I WOULD HAVE SAID. I APPRECIATE THIS PROJECT. I THINK IT'S A SUBSTANTIAL IMPROVEMENT OVER A TYPICAL TOWNHOME. THE FACT THAT WE CAN HAVE THE DENSITY, BUT EVERYBODY HAS THEIR OWN INDIVIDUAL UNITS AND FOUR WALLS. I THINK THERE'S DEMAND FOR HOUSING LIKE THIS. I'M A PERSON WHO WOULD HAPPILY GIVE UP A BACKYARD IF I DIDN'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT. DRIVE THROUGH THE ALLEY, PARK THE CAR, AND I. AND EVEN THOUGH THIS MAY NOT BE EXACTLY WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, I LIKE THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A COPY PASTE OF HOME TO HOME, THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE SOME VARIETY IN WHAT THE END UNITS END UP LOOKING LIKE. SO I AM FULLY IN FAVOR AND I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ZONING FILE 2602 FOR GREENWOOD PARK WITH THE CONDITIONS AS PRESENTED. YEAH, I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. AND I

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YEAH. OKAY. MAKING SURE THAT THEY. UNDERSTOOD. SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ZONING FILE 20 6-02. IS THAT RIGHT? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL OPPOSED.

PASSES 6 TO 1 WITH COMMISSIONER POINTER AND OPPOSITION. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. GOOD LUCK.

ARE WE GOOD TO KEEP GOING AND TRY TO FINISH THIS UP OR DO WE NEED A BREAK. SO LET'S GO. ALL

[3. Staff report on pending development, zoning permits, and planning matters. ]

[4. Present and discuss potential updates to the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance related to zoning protest criteria and the definition of “Family”.]

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REQUESTS REQUIRING SIX OUT OF THE SEVEN MEMBERS TO VOTE IN THE AFFIRMATIVE IN ORDER TO PROVE THAT REQUEST. IF THEY THAT 20% PROTEST THRESHOLD WAS HIT, HOUSE BILL 24 INCREASED THE PROPERTY OWNER PROTEST THRESHOLD FROM 20% TO 60% FOR REZONING REQUESTS THAT ALLOW FOR MORE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. SO ONE OF THE GOALS OF THE THIS PAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION WAS TO PROVIDE FOR MORE HOUSING. AND SO THIS MANIFESTED ITSELF IN VARIOUS BILLS THROUGHOUT THE SESSION. ONE DEALT WITH MULTIFAMILY BEING ALLOWED IN COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS. THIS MADE IT EASIER FOR AND MORE DIFFICULT TO. TO PROTEST PROPOSALS THAT BROUGHT FORTH MORE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. IT ALSO ALLOWED A SIMPLE MAJORITY VOTE INSTEAD OF A SUPERMAJORITY TO APPROVE, REGARDLESS OF THE HIGHER 60% THRESHOLD REQUIREMENT. SO THE 60% THRESHOLD REQUIREMENT ISN'T AS RELEVANT, ISN'T AS RELEVANT AS THE THE GOAL OF OR I'M SORRY, OR THE REQUIREMENT TO ONLY REQUIRE A SIMPLE MAJORITY VOTE RATHER THAN A SUPERMAJORITY VOTE. SO NOW YOU KNOW, SIMPLE MAJORITY OF COUNCIL. ONLY FOUR OUT OF THE SEVEN MEMBERS COULD VOTE TO APPROVE. AND FOR THAT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT TO BE SUCCESSFUL AGAIN, THE GOAL OF THE LEGISLATION WAS TO FACILITATE THE DEVELOPMENT OF MORE RESIDENTIAL HOUSING. ALL OTHER REZONING REQUESTS, SUCH AS COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL, WOULD MAINTAIN THE 20% THRESHOLD TO REQUIRE SUPERMAJORITY OF COUNCIL TO APPROVE. THE CTO CURRENTLY REFERENCES THAT IF THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE OR SPECIAL PERMIT IS PROTESTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, THE AFFIRMATIVE VOTE OF AT LEAST THREE FOURTHS SUPERMAJORITY OF ALL MEMBERS OF COUNCIL MUST BE RECEIVED IN ORDER TO TAKE EFFECT TODAY. AS. AS I'VE OUTLINED, THERE ARE SCENARIOS FOR THREE FOURTHS VOTE IS NOT ALLOWED, THUS REQUIRING THE CHANGES TO THE CTO. SO WE'LL NEED TO AMEND THE SPECIAL PERMIT SECTION AS WELL AS THE CHANGES AND AMENDMENTS ARTICLE OF THE THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE. WE'RE PROPOSING TO AMEND THE CC0 BOTH FOR THE ZONING MAP AMENDMENTS AND FOR SPECIAL PERMITS BY ADDING THE STATE STATUTE LANGUAGE WITH THE CLARIFICATIONS TO MAKE IT MORE TRANSPARENT AND EASIER FOR EVERYONE INVOLVED IN THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE, RATHER THAN REFERRING BACK TO THE STATE STATUTE. THIS WILL ALSO APPLY TO SPECIAL DEVELOPMENT PLANS AND MAJOR MODIFICATIONS, SINCE THOSE ARE CONSIDERED ZONING ACTIONS AS WELL. SO HERE'S A TABLE THAT KIND OF EXPLAINS IT A LITTLE BIT BETTER. SO CURRENTLY ALL LAND BASED ZONING CHANGES AND SPECIAL PERMITS, 20% PROTEST REQUIRES A SUPERMAJORITY OF COUNCIL TO APPROVE. NOW THESE ARE THE THREE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS THAT ARE ARE BEING LAID OUT. SO FOR LAND BASED ZONING CHANGES AND SPECIAL PERMITS ALLOWING ADDITIONAL RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT NOW REQUIRES A 60% PROTEST AND ONLY REQUIRES A SIMPLE MAJORITY OF COUNCIL TO APPROVE FOUR OUT OF SEVEN, AND THEN FOR ALL OTHER LAND BASED ZONING CHANGES AND SPECIAL PERMITS, SUCH AS COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL.

STILL REQUIRING THAT 20% PROTEST AND THE SUPERMAJORITY OF COUNCIL TO APPROVE, AND THEN FOR PROPOSED COMPREHENSIVE ZONING CHANGES, SUCH AS TEXT AMENDMENTS TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE THAT AREN'T SPECIFIC TO A PARTICULAR PROPERTY. NO PROTEST ABILITY. SO I WILL PAUSE THERE. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ABOUT OUR APPROACH WITH THIS PARTICULAR LEGISLATION? MR. VICE CHAIRMAN? THANK YOU. SO THE DEFINITION OF RESIDENTIAL, WHAT DOES A MIXED USE PROJECT LOOK LIKE? SO I CAN SEE THAT THAT'S SORT OF WHERE WE GO A LOT OF TIMES THESE DAYS IS MIXED USE. AND SO I'M JUST CURIOUS IF ONE PERSON LIVES THERE, IS IT CONSIDERED RESIDENTIAL OR IS THERE MORE DEFINITION TO THAT? YEAH. SO I BELIEVE THAT MIXED MIXED USE, IF IT DOES PROVIDE A RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT, IF IT PROVIDES FOR MORE RESIDENTIAL THAN THAN WAS PREVIOUSLY THERE, THEN IT THEN THIS WOULD APPLY THE 60% AND THE SIMPLE MAJORITY.

AND SO JUST THINKING THROUGH THE LOGIC, THEN ON THE, THE WAY THAT WE'RE ADJUSTING. SO IF A

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IT ONLY REQUIRES A SIMPLE MAJORITY VOTE FOR THE PROJECT TO BE APPROVED. SO I WOULD LIKE TO CIRCLE BACK TO YOUR QUESTION ABOUT RESIDENTIAL. SO THE STATUTE DOES NOT DEFINE RESIDENTIAL, BUT THERE IS A PROVISION IN THERE THAT BETTER ADDRESSES MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.

AND I BELIEVE IF THE GROUND FLOOR IS LESS THAN 30 OR 35% COMMERCIAL. THAT'S CORRECT.

THERE'S SOME QUALIFIERS IN THERE AND WE CAN GET THAT INFORMATION TO YOU, BUT THERE'S SOME QUALIFIERS IN THERE THAT HELP IT BETTER. ADDRESS WHAT IS A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT HAS SOME LIMITATION RELATED TO THE AMOUNT OF COMMERCIAL SQUARE FOOTAGE, BUT IT HELPS PROVIDE SOME PARAMETER IN TERMS OF WHAT IT CONSIDERS A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. SO IF IT MEETS THAT CRITERIA, THEN IT WOULD BE PRESUMABLY SUBJECT TO THE 60% THRESHOLD FOR LETTERS AND OPPOSITION, WHEREAS VERSUS THE 20% REQUIREMENT. BUT BUT WE CAN GET THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU AT OUR NEXT MEETING DATE AND MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THAT. COMMISSIONER CHECK IN WE'RE SPEAKING TO NOW WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE IN THE WAY THAT WE SORT OF DEFINE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THESE SCENARIOS POP UP. AND I THINK I LIKED YOUR LANGUAGE OF DISTRACTER. I THINK ORIGINALLY LOOKING AT WHAT YOU SEE FOR RESIDENTIAL, IT TENDS TO BE A LITTLE MORE CONFUSING THAN PERHAPS IT HAS TO BE. SO AS WE'RE THINKING ABOUT HOW IT'S WRITTEN, DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO ESSENTIALLY ELIMINATE EVERYTHING ABOUT RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE IT ESSENTIALLY DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING? AND INSTEAD WE TALK ABOUT WHAT WOULD REQUIRE A SUPERMAJORITY AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS JUST MAJORITY. YEAH. I THINK, YOU KNOW, IN TALKING WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, I THINK OUR GOAL WAS TO TO BE AS IN CLOSE ADHERENCE TO THE STATE STATUTE AS POSSIBLE, BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE STATE'S PREEMPTING US ON THIS AND IS OUTLINING WHAT THOSE REQUIREMENTS ARE. SO WE WANT TO MOST ACCURATELY REFLECT REFLECT THAT THROUGH HOW THE CODE IS WRITTEN. AND SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT JUST THE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS AND THE DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS FOR EACH, YOU KNOW, EVEN, EVEN THOUGH THE 60% MIGHT END UP BEING MOOT, JUST KIND OF OUTLINING, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT IS ACTUALLY IN THE STATUTE, WHAT WE'RE ALL BOUND TO. I THINK IT HELPS WITH TRANSPARENCY WITH THE PUBLIC.

AND, AND WE OBVIOUSLY CAN EXPLAIN IT TO THEM IF ANYBODY HAS ANY CONCERN. BUT WHAT I'VE FOUND IN WORKING IN COMMUNITIES THAT THE BETTER THAT WE ALIGN AND FOLLOW THE STATE LANGUAGE, THE BETTER OFF WE ARE. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE DO START RECEIVING LETTERS

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IT'S MEANT AS AN EXAMPLE ON THE SIX OUT OF SEVEN FOR THE SUPERMAJORITY. AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHAT WE'LL DO IS LET US DOUBLE CHECK WHAT'S IN OUR CHARTER, BECAUSE I HAVE WORKED IN COMMUNITIES WHERE IF IF YOU HAD ONLY SIX COUNCIL MEMBERS PRESENT IN THAT COMMUNITY, IT REQUIRED ALL SIX, EVEN THOUGH BECAUSE TECHNICALLY THERE ARE SEVEN THAT ARE ELECTED AND REPRESENT THE CITY. SO IT WOULD HAVE FORCED SIX OUT OF THE SIX PRESENT. BUT WE'LL DOUBLE CHECK THAT FOR RICHARDSON JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE INFORMING YOU CORRECTLY. YEP. AND WE DID HAVE A CASE LIKE THIS. IF YOU REMEMBER THE THE MEXICAN RESTAURANT THAT WANTED TO GO ON THE NORTH SIDE OF SPRING VALLEY AND IT WAS REQUIRED TWO STORIES. AND THEY JUST WANTED TO BUILD A.

SINGLE STOREY WITH A MEZZANINE, A MEZZANINE, SINGLE STOREY, THE MEZZANINE. BUT THEY WERE GOING TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE A TWO STORY FROM THE OUTSIDE WITH WINDOWS AND EVERYTHING. AND THERE WERE ONLY THREE, LIKE THREE ADJOINING PROPERTY OWNERS AND I THINK TWO OF THEM OPPOSED IT. SO THAT WOULD PUT IT OVER 60% OF THE ADJOINING PROPERTY OWNERS AND 200FT WERE IN OPPOSITION. SO IT DID REQUIRE A SUPERMAJORITY. AND WHEN IT WENT TO COUNCIL, IT FAILED. IT COULDN'T GET THE SUPERMAJORITY TO PASS, BUT IT DIDN'T INVOLVE ANY RESIDENTIAL. SO. CORRECT.

YEAH, I THINK IT'S TWO THIRDS IS THE WAY THE CHARTER IS WRITTEN. ALL RIGHT. GO TO THE NEXT ONE. ALL RIGHT. SO SENATE BILL 1567. THIS IS ANOTHER AREA WHERE THE STATE HAS PREEMPTED THE CITY AS IT RELATES TO THE DEFINITION OF FAMILY. SO THE STATUE IS PREEMPTIVE ON CITIES THAT MEET CERTAIN THRESHOLD CRITERIA. IT'S SPECIFICALLY TARGETED AT HOME RULE, HOME RULE MUNICIPALITIES WITH A POPULATION OF LESS THAN 250,000, WITH AN INSTITUTION OF HIGHER

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HOWEVER, CITIES MAY CONTINUE TO ENFORCE BUILDING AND FIRE CODE REQUIREMENTS AND STANDARDS ADOPTED BY THE STATE, AND IT ALSO ALLOWS FOR DEED RESTRICTIONS TO STILL APPLY AND BE MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN THE STATUTE FOR THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT MIGHT HAVE THEM. ARTICLE ONE SECTION TWO DEFINES FAMILY AND INCLUDES REFERENCES LIMITING THE NUMBER OF PERSONS AND QUALIFIERS FOR CERTAIN RELATIONS, THEREFORE, WILL NEED TO BE AMENDED TO REDEFINE THIS TERM. WE NEED AN UPDATED DEFINITION THAT REMOVES THE LIMITS ON THE NUMBER OF OCCUPANTS AND REMOVES CERTAIN RELATIONS REQUIREMENT REQUIREMENTS IN ORDER TO BE COMPLIANT. SO IN BLACK IS THE CURRENT DEFINITION. AND THEN IN BLUE IS THE PROPOSED DEFINITION.

SO CURRENTLY THE THE ORDINANCE READS FAMILY MEANS ONE OR MORE PERSONS RELATED BY BLOOD ADOPTION OR MARRIAGE, LIVING AND COOKING TOGETHER AS SINGLE HOUSEKEEPING UNIT EXCLUSIVE OF HOUSEHOLD SERVANTS, A NUMBER OF PERSONS, BUT NOT EXCEEDING TWO LIVING AND COOKING TOGETHER AS A SINGLE HOUSEKEEPING UNIT, THOUGH NOT RELATED BY BLOOD ADOPTION OR MARRIAGE, SHALL BE DEEMED TO CONSTITUTE A FAMILY. SO BOTH OF THOSE SENTENCES ARE NOT IN COMPLIANCE. SO THE FIRST ONE DEALS WITH RELATIONS, AND THEN THE SECOND ONE DEALS WITH NUMBER OF OCCUPANTS WHO ARE UNRELATED. SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS FOR FAMILY TO BE REDEFINED TO MEANING ANY NUMBER OF PERSONS OCCUPYING A SINGLE DWELLING UNIT, LIVING AND COOKING TOGETHER AS A SINGLE HOUSEKEEPING UNIT, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THOSE RELATED BY BLOOD, MARRIAGE, ADOPTION AND GUARDIANSHIP OR DEPENDENCY. SO WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE IS, YOU KNOW, KIND OF BREAKING DOWN THE NEW PROPOSED DEFINITION, A NUMBER OF PERSONS. SO NOT PUTTING A RESTRICTION ON THE NUMBER OF OCCUPANTS. AND THEN WE RETAIN THE LIVING AND COOKING TOGETHER AS A SINGLE HOUSEKEEPING UNIT, BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S A FAMILY NEEDS TO BE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF ONE ONE UNIT. AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN THE DEFINITION. AND THIS IS TO PREVENT THE ILLEGAL SUBDIVIDING OF A INDIVIDUAL DWELLING UNIT INTO MULTIPLE ROOMS THAT EACH HAVE THEIR OWN, YOU KNOW, FACILITIES AND ALL OF THAT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF ALMOST AKIN TO A BOARDING HOUSE. AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE WANTED TO, TO PREVENT FOR THAT. AND THEN THE LAST PART INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO. SO WE WANTED TO PUT PUT OUT THERE STILL THOSE THINGS THAT ARE COMMONLY DEEMED TO CONSTITUTE, YOU KNOW, FAMILIAL RELATIONS, BUT THE WORDING INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DOESN'T OUTRIGHT RESTRICT IT TO THOSE PARTICULAR QUALIFIERS. WE ALSO ADDED GUARDIANSHIP OR DEPENDENCY, SINCE THOSE ARE COMMONLY USED TO IN ASSOCIATION WITH FAMILY. AND THIS DEFINITION IS CONSISTENT WITH A COUPLE OTHER DEFINITIONS THAT FOR CITIES THAT ARE SIMILAR TO TO RICHARDSON. AND SO WE THOUGHT IT WAS IT WAS GOOD. WE, WE IT DOESN'T MIRROR ANY ONE CITY'S DEFINITION THOUGH. AND, BUT WE FOUND THIS ONE TO BE MOST APPROPRIATE FOR, FOR RICHARDSON. SO ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE? THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER ROBERTS, DID YOU TURN YOUR MIC ON? SURE. SO ARE THERE ADDITIONAL ORDINANCES IN RICHARDSON THAT PREVENT LIKE RECOVERY HOUSING, WHICH I THINK THIS WOULD ALLOW? IS MY READ OF THAT. YEAH. SO RECOVERY HOUSING, WE WE HANDLE THAT SEPARATELY THROUGH OUR, OUR COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT AND ANYTHING THAT PROVIDES CARE FOR THE INDIVIDUAL, THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH A REGISTRATION PROCESS WITH THE CITY THROUGH OUR COMMUNITY SERVICES THE DEPARTMENT. SO JUST TO KIND OF FURTHER EXPAND ON THAT, SO THERE IS CASE LAW THAT EXISTS THAT. SUPPORTS BUSINESS MODELS WHERE YOU MAY HAVE A GREATER NUMBER OF RESIDENTS THAT ARE RESIDING AS A SINGLE HOUSEHOLD UNIT, WHERE THEY ARE, WHERE ALL THE RESIDENTS ARE NOT RELATED BY BLOOD MARRIAGE. THE OTHER CITATIONS THAT ARE ADOPTION, BUT THE COURTS HAVE RULED THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE LIVING TOGETHER

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FOLLOWING PROPER PUBLIC NOTIFICATION IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE STATUTE. SO THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMISSION WILL PRESENT WILL PRESENT THE FORMAL AMENDMENTS TO YOU ON MAY 5TH AND THEN FOR FINAL ACTION BY COUNCIL ON JUNE 8TH, TENTATIVELY. IN ADDITION, THERE'S SOME OTHER LEGISLATIVE RELATED ITEMS THAT WILL BE ADDRESSED AT FUTURE MEETINGS, ONE OF WHICH IS HOME OCCUPATIONS HOUSE BILL 2464. WE HAD TO DO A LITTLE BIT DEEPER DIVE ANALYSIS ON THIS AND WORKING WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY AND AND ALL OF THAT. SO WE PLAN TO PRESENT THAT TO YOU AT A FUTURE MEETING. BUT WE INTEND FOR FOR THAT ITEM TO STILL TRACK TO COUNCIL BY JUNE 8TH. SO I THINK THE GOAL IS TO HAVE A WORK SESSION WITH YOU ALL ABOUT HOME OCCUPATIONS ON MAY 5TH, AND THEN PRESENT THE FORMAL AMENDMENT FOR HOME OCCUPATIONS ON MAY 19TH, AND THEN THAT WILL GO TO COUNCIL ON JUNE 8TH. THERE'S ALSO A A BILL OUT THERE RELATED TO MANUFACTURED HOUSING THAT WE WILL NEED TO ADDRESS. WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME ON THAT ONE, BECAUSE THAT DOESN'T GO INTO EFFECT UNTIL SEPTEMBER 1ST OF THIS YEAR. SO BUT WE WILL WE'LL ADDRESS THAT OVER THE SUMMER AS WELL. SO AND THEN I ALSO JUST WANTED TO GIVE A BIG THANK YOU TO OUR STAFF FOR THEIR HARD WORK ON ALL THE BACKGROUND WORK THAT WAS DONE ON ALL OF THIS. CHRISTINE WORKED ON THE DEFINITION OF FAMILY. DEREK HAS WORKED ON THE DEFINITION FOR HOME OCCUPATIONS. WELL, YEAH, PART OF IT. IT'S THE DEFINITION THAT MORE TO COME ON THAT FOR HOME OCCUPATIONS. AND THEN KEITH IS WORKING ON THE MANUFACTURED HOUSING. AND THEN AARON WORKED ON THE THE ZONING PROTEST PROCEDURES. AND THEN THANK YOU TO TINA FOR ALL HER GUIDANCE AND DIRECTION AS WELL. AND OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE FOR WORKING SIDE BY SIDE WITH US ON ALL OF THIS. SO AND THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANDREW.

ANY OTHER BUSINESS REAL QUICK? YES. MY HOME OCCUPATION. YOU MEAN VOCATION OR YOU MEAN PHYSICAL OCCUPATION? HOME OCCUPATION. SO WE'LL ADDRESS AT THE NEXT MEETING. OKAY. AND WHEN YOU THANKED ALL THE STAFF, IT MADE ME THINK THAT YOU WERE ONE FAMILY LIVING AND COOKING TOGETHER FOR THE EIGHT HOURS DURING THE DAY. ONLY IF THEY WERE COOKING. THAT'S WHAT DOORDASH IS FOR, RIGHT? NO OTHER

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