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[CALL TO ORDER ]

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RICHARDSON CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER AT 6 P.M. WE'LL START OFF WITH ITEM A, WHICH ARE PUBLIC

[A. PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS AND VISITORS FORUM ]

COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS AND VISITORS FORUM. MR. MAGNER. THANK YOU. MAYOR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL. WE ARE NOT IN RECEIPT OF ANY CARDS IN ADVANCE OF THE 4 P.M. DEADLINE, BUT I'M AWARE OF AT LEAST ONE SPEAKER, SO I WILL READ THE FOLLOWING INSTRUCTIONS. ALL SPEAKERS SHOULD COMPLETE A PUBLIC COMMENT CARD AND SUBMIT IT TO THE CITY SECRETARY BEFORE THE MEETING BEGINS. SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER THEY RECEIVED. WHEN YOUR NAME IS CALLED, PLEASE STEP TO THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. ALL SPEAKERS WILL BE LIMITED TO A MAXIMUM OF FIVE MINUTES, AS INDICATED BY THE TIMER. WHEN THE TIMER BEEPS, THE SPEAKER SHOULD CONCLUDE THEIR COMMENTS PROMPTLY. SPEAKERS MUST NOT PHYSICALLY APPROACH MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL OR STAFF, AND SHOULD REMAIN AT THE PODIUM DURING THEIR COMMENTS. SPEAKERS WITH HANDOUTS MUST PROVIDE THEM TO THE CITY SECRETARY FOR DISTRIBUTION. SPEAKERS SUBMITTING COMMENTS ON THE SAME TOPIC ARE ENCOURAGED TO REDUCE REPETITIVE REMARKS BY INDICATING THEIR COMMENTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN ADDRESSED OR BY SELECTING A REPRESENTATIVE SPEAKER. THE TEXAS OPEN MEETING ACT PROHIBITS THE CITY COUNCIL FROM DISCUSSING OR TAKING ACTION ON ITEMS THAT ARE NOT POSTED ON THE AGENDA. CITY COUNCIL AND STAFF WILL NOT AFFIRM OR OPPOSE ANY SPEAKER, COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS. THE MAYOR OR CITY MANAGER MAY RESPOND WITH FACTS OF POLICY OR DIRECT CITY STAFF TO RESPOND TO THE SPEAKER. AFTER THE MEETING, THE AUDIENCE IS ASKED TO REFRAIN FROM APPLAUDING OR OTHER EXPRESSIONS OF SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION. A COPY OF THE COUNCIL RULES OF ORDER AND PROCEDURE, AND THESE GUIDELINES MAY BE FOUND ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE. AT THIS TIME, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE TO SILENCE THEIR CELL PHONES FOR THE DURATION OF THE MEETING.

MISS NEMER. STEPHANIE GRIFFIN. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS STEPHANIE GRIFFIN. I LIVE AT 2672 POINSETTIA DRIVE. MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, CITY STAFF, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING.

MY FAMILY AND I RELOCATED TO THE CITY OF RICHARDSON TWO YEARS AGO FOR MY JOB. WE PURCHASED A HOME IN THE CROWLEY PARK AREA. WHEN WE PURCHASED OUR HOUSE, WE WERE PLANNING TO EXPAND OUR EXISTING COVERED PATIO TO INCLUDE AN OUTDOOR KITCHEN AND DINING AREA. THE EXISTING COVERED PATIO IS ONLY SIX FEET DEEP AND DOES NOT PROVIDE USABLE SPACE FOR A STANDARD FOUR FOOT PICNIC TABLE, CHAIRS AND A GRILL. MY COMMENTS PERTAIN TO TONIGHT'S AGENDA ITEM C AND INCONSISTENCIES WITHIN THE RESIDENTIAL SETBACKS THAT SHOULD BE REVIEWED AND POTENTIALLY REVISED AS PART OF THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, OR UDC EFFORT. SPECIFICALLY, THE CITY OF RICHARDSON'S CODE OF ORDINANCES. ARTICLE SEVEN, SECTION FOUR G REGARDING THE 25 FOOT REAR SETBACK. WHEN WE SUBMITTED OUR BUILDING PERMIT IN NOVEMBER 2025, WE LEARNED THAT THE CITY OF RICHARDSON HAS A CITY WIDE 25 FOOT REAR SETBACK. WE WERE NOT AWARE OF THAT AS IT DID NOT SHOW UP ON OUR SURVEY. WE ONLY SAW THE FIVE FOOT EASEMENT AND SO WE WERE TAKEN BY SURPRISE. OUR HOUSE IS SITUATED SUCH THAT THE CORNER OF THE PATIO IS AT THE 25 FOOT SETBACK ALREADY, MEANING WE DO NOT HAVE ROOM TO EXTEND THE PATIO WITHOUT ENCROACHING INTO THAT SETBACK AREA. THUS, WE CANNOT EXTEND THE ATTACHED COVERED PATIO OR ADD OUR DESIRED OUTDOOR KITCHEN. THE CITY'S UDC HAS MULTIPLE SETBACKS WITHOUT EXPLANATION OR JUSTIFICATION. SIDE YARD SETBACKS ARE SEVEN FEET. REAR SETBACKS FOR ATTACHED COVERED PATIOS IS 25FT, AND IF YOU HAVE AN UNATTACHED COVERED PATIO, IT IS 18IN. WHY DOES THE REAR SETBACK FOR A COVERED PATIO HAVE SUCH A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN ATTACHED AND UNATTACHED STRUCTURE? IN. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS OF GREAT INTEREST TO TO MY FAMILY AND MYSELF. THE 25 FOOT REAR SETBACK WAS ESTABLISHED IN 1956. HOWEVER, THE RATIONALE FOR THE SETBACK IS UNKNOWN. I ANTICIPATE THAT THE WAYS RICHARDSON RESIDENTS USE THEIR BACKYARDS NOW HAS DIFFERED AND EVOLVED GREATLY OVER THE LAST 70 YEARS. I REQUEST THAT THE UDC REVIEW ADDRESS THE DISCREPANCIES AND SETBACKS ON THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. THE PURPOSE, INTENT AND APPROPRIATENESS OF THE SETBACKS SHOULD BE SPECIFIED AND SHOULD ACCOMMODATE THE WAYS THAT PROPERTY OWNERS USE THEIR BACKYARDS TODAY. IF A COMMITTEE CONSISTING OF REPRESENTATIVES IS DESIRED AS PART OF THE UDC UPDATE, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO SERVE AS A VOLUNTEER ON SUCH A COMMITTEE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND A COPY OF MY NOTES OR MY COMMENTS ARE PROVIDED. THANK YOU, MISS GRIFFIN. THANKS. NO OTHER CARDS, MAYOR. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT'S WANTING TO SPEAK THIS EVENING? OKAY. SEEING NONE, I

[B. RECOGNITION OF PUBLIC WORKS WEEK ]

DO SEE THERE ARE A FEW PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE FOR ITEM B, WHICH IS RECOGNITION OF PUBLIC PUBLIC WORKS WEEK. MR. MAGNER, THANK YOU, MAYOR, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. EXCITED TO HAVE OUR DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC SERVICES, ERIC ROBISON, HERE TO KIND OF LEAD THIS. A FEW SLIDES TO INTRODUCE PUBLIC WORKS WEEK TO YOU. BUT AS YOU ACKNOWLEDGE, WE'RE ALSO REALLY EXCITED TO HAVE SO MANY MEMBERS OF OUR PUBLIC SERVICES DEPARTMENT HERE. WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU JOINING US AND ALLOWING US TO SHOW SOME APPRECIATION DURING THIS IMPORTANT WEEK FOR FOR YOUR PROFESSION, MAYOR. AFTER ERIC MAKES HIS COMMENTS, WE'D LIKE TO INVITE YOU TO THE

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COUNCIL TO PRESENT THE PROCLAMATION. AND THEN WE'D LIKE TO INVITE OUR STAFF AND THE COUNCIL UP TO THE FRONT OF THE ROOM TO TAKE A COUPLE OF PHOTOS TO KIND OF COMMEMORATE THE THE ACKNOWLEDGMENT TONIGHT. SO, ERIC, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL, APPRECIATE YOU HAVING US HERE. THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT WEEK FOR US, AND WE APPRECIATE THE TIME TO BE ABLE TO RECOGNIZE OUR TEAM AND OUR STAFF AND WHAT WE DO FOR PUBLIC WORKS WEEK. SO I'M JUST GOING TO REMIND EVERYBODY WHO OUR PUBLIC SERVICES TEAM IS. WHO DOES THAT CONSIST OF? WE'LL TRY TO TALK ABOUT NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK A LITTLE BIT, AND THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE RECOGNITION AND EVENTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO PARTICIPATE THROUGH THIS YEAR OR THIS WEEK TO CELEBRATE THIS YEAR'S EVENT. SO OUR PUBLIC SERVICES TEAM CONSISTS OF OUR UTILITIES, SO IT'S OUR WATER AND WASTEWATER, OUR PLANT MAINTENANCE GROUP. THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT WORK ON OUR PUMP STATIONS, ELEVATED STORAGE TANKS, LIFT STATIONS, OUR SCADA SLASH RESPONSE CENTER.

THOSE ARE THE TEAM THAT TAKES THE CALLS 24 HOURS A DAY, 365 DAYS A YEAR FOR OUR RESIDENTS IF THEY'RE EVER IN NEED OF SERVICE. WE HAVE OUR STREETS GROUP, WHICH IS STREETS AND ALLEY MAINTENANCE, STORM DRAINAGE, REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE. AND THEN ANYTIME THERE'S INCLEMENT WEATHER, WHETHER THAT'S SANDING UNITS ARE NEEDED OR IF THE TREES ARE DOWN, BLOCKING RIGHT OF WAYS, THEY RESPOND AND, AND GET THOSE TREES CLEARED SO THAT WE HAVE PATHWAYS FOR NOT ONLY PUBLIC SAFETY, BUT FOR RESIDENTS AS WELL. YOU KNOW, AFTER STORM AND THEN OUR BELOVED GROUP, OUR SOLID WASTE, OUR RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL BABIC AND RECYCLING GROUP MAKES UP ONE OF OUR PUBLIC SERVICES TEAM HERE IN RICHARDSON. SO WHAT IS NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK? SO IN 1960, AMERICAN PUBLIC WORKS ASSOCIATION STARTED SPONSORING THIS WEEK EVERY YEAR TO RECOGNIZE THE PUBLIC WORK PROFESSIONAL THROUGHOUT NORTH AMERICA, BUT IN THROUGH CANADA. AND THEY CREATE A THEME EACH YEAR. AND THIS YEAR I THINK IS APPROPRIATE. IT'S ROOTED IN SERVICE AND POWERED BY COMMUNITY. SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALK ABOUT IS THAT, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC SERVICES, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE DOING YOUR JOB WHEN YOU'RE INVISIBLE, RIGHT? SO WE HAVE VISIBLE INFRASTRUCTURE, WE HAVE INVISIBLE SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, PROVIDING THAT, YOU KNOW, POTHOLES THAT YOU SEE REPAIRS OR THE TRASH BEING COLLECTED. RIGHT? BUT THERE'S STUFF THAT WE SEE THAT YOU DON'T SEE, WHICH IS YOUR WATER AND SEWER SERVICES THAT, YOU KNOW, AS LONG AS YOU GET UP IN THE MORNING AND YOUR WATER IS COMING THROUGH, WHEN YOU TAKE A SHOWER AND YOU KNOW YOUR SEWER GOES AWAY, THEN ALL IS GOOD. SO THAT'S WHEN WE KNOW THAT WE'RE PROVIDING THE AND MAINTAINING A THRIVING COMMUNITY WITH THE SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE. SO I THINK IT'S A REALLY COOL, COOL THEME THIS YEAR TO REALLY, REALLY TALK ABOUT HOW WE'RE ROOTED IN SERVICE AND WE PROVIDE THAT LEVEL OF CONTINUITY WITHIN A COMMUNITY. SO I THOUGHT IT WAS A REALLY, REALLY NEAT THEME THIS YEAR FOR PUBLIC WORKS WEEK. AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO RECOGNIZE IT? WELL, WE'RE GOING TO START WITH A COUNCIL BRIEFING HERE TONIGHT, A VERY BRIEF BRIEFING, BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE THE TIME FOR YOU ALL TO COME HERE AND RECOGNIZE OUR TEAM DURING PUBLIC SERVICES WEEK AND THE IMPORTANT WORK THAT WE PROVIDE. WE WILL DO OUR ANNUAL EQUIPMENT RODEO WHERE OUR STAFF CAN CAN SHOW THEIR SKILLS AND THEIR ABILITIES WITH SOME CERTAIN CHALLENGES THAT WE'RE GOING TO PERFORM USING USING HEAVY EQUIPMENT, WHICH WILL BE ACCOMPANIED BY A LUNCH.

AND THEN SOMETHING AMERICAN PUBLIC WORKS PUT OUT THIS YEAR, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS A REALLY NICE GESTURE, IS IT'S I LOVE PUBLIC WORKS CAMPAIGN. SO YOU CAN SEE THESE LITTLE FLIERS THAT WE SENT OUT AND PUT OUT AT ALL PUBLIC FACILITIES A COUPLE WEEKS AGO. SO THE COMMUNITY COULD REALLY GIVE US NOTES AND SEE, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH DO THEY APPRECIATE AND LOVE THE VALUE OF THE SUPPORT OF THE SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE? AND I'M HAPPY TO REPORT WE GOT QUITE A BIT.

SO WE'RE GOING TO HANG THESE UP THROUGHOUT THE SERVICE CENTER SO OUR TEAMS CAN SEE HOW THE COMMUNITY RECOGNIZES THEM AS WELL. VERY FOR VERY IMPORTANT JOBS AND ROLES THAT THEY PLAY.

AND A VERY IMPORTANT WEEK LIKE PUBLIC SERVICES WEEK OR PUBLIC PUBLIC WORKS WEEK. SO WITH THAT, I JUST THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING MY TEAM OUT AND BE RECOGNIZED FOR THIS IMPORTANT WEEK. WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR EVERYTHING YOU GUYS DO, AND I'M SURE I'LL BE SAYING MANY KIND WORDS WHILE I'M READING THAT PROCLAMATION. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE ANYONE WANTS TO ADD FOR NOW? ALL RIGHT, I'LL BE RIGHT UP. YEAH. OKAY. I WILL READ OFF THIS PROCLAMATION, AND THEN WE'LL HOPEFULLY ALL GET TOGETHER AND TAKE A PHOTO TOGETHER. WHEREAS PUBLIC WORKS PROFESSIONALS FOCUS ON INFRASTRUCTURE, FACILITIES AND SERVICES THAT ARE OF VITAL IMPORTANCE TO SUSTAINABLE AND RESILIENT COMMUNITIES AND TO PUBLIC HEALTH, HIGH QUALITY OF LIFE AND WELL-BEING OF THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY OF RICHARDSON. AND WHEREAS, THESE INFRASTRUCTURE, FACILITIES AND SERVICES COULD NOT BE PROVIDED WITHOUT THE DEDICATED EFFORTS OF PUBLIC WORKS PROFESSIONALS WHO ARE ENGINEERS, MANAGERS AND EMPLOYEES AT ALL LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT AND THE PRIVATE SECTOR WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR REBUILDING, IMPROVING AND PROTECTING OUR NATION'S TRANSPORTATION, WATER SUPPLY, WATER TREATMENT AND SOLID WASTE SYSTEMS, PUBLIC BUILDINGS AND OTHER STRUCTURES AND FACILITIES ESSENTIAL FOR OUR CITIZENS. AND WHEREAS IT IS IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST FOR THE CITIZENS, CIVIC LEADERS AND CHILDREN IN THE CITY OF RICHARDSON TO GAIN KNOWLEDGE OF AND MAINTAIN AN ONGOING INTEREST AND UNDERSTANDING OF THE IMPORTANCE OF PUBLIC WORKS AND PUBLIC WORKS PROGRAMS IN THEIR

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RESPECTIVE COMMUNITIES. AND WHEREAS, THE YEAR 2026 MARKS THE 66TH ANNUAL NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK, SPONSORED BY THE AMERICAN PUBLIC WORKS ASSOCIATION. NOW, THEREFORE, I, AMIR OMAR, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF RICHARDSON, TEXAS, DO HEREBY DESIGNATE THE WEEK MAY 17TH THROUGH 23RD 2026 AS NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK IN THE CITY OF RICHARDSON. I URGE ALL CITIZENS TO JOIN REPRESENTATIVES THE AMERICAN PUBLIC WORKS ASSOCIATION AND GOVERNMENT AGENCIES AND ACTIVITIES, EVENTS AND CEREMONIES DESIGNED TO PAY TRIBUTE TO OUR PUBLIC WORKS PROFESSIONALS, ENGINEERS, MANAGERS AND EMPLOYEES, AND TO RECOGNIZE THE SUBSTANTIAL CONTRIBUTIONS THEY MAKE TO PROTECTING OUR NATIONAL HEALTH, SAFETY AND ADVANCING QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. SO WE DO. OUR NORMAL WILL STAGGER EVERYBODY. ERIC IS HERE AND EVERYBODY COME IN AND YOU GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD.

ALL RIGHT. GOOD, GOOD. ACTUALLY YOU'RE RIGHT THERE. PLEASE. RIGHT OVER HERE. YOU'RE GOOD.

RIGHT HERE. PLEASE. ALL RIGHT. HOLD THOSE SPOTS. RIGHT. ALL SMILES, BIG SMILES. ALL THOSE SPOTS. THERE WE GO. AND THEN BIG SMILES. ONE MORE TIME. JUST IN CASE SOMEBODY BLINKS. WE'RE GOOD. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. SO I JUST DO A HIGH FIVE FOR YOU GUYS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT. AT THIS TIME WE ARE GOING TO MOVE TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM. I KNOW WE

[D. REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT (CDBG) PROGRAM ]

WILL BE MOVING ITEM D AHEAD OF ITEM C IF THAT'S OKAY WITH EVERYBODY. AND WE'LL MOVE ITEM D AHEAD WHICH IS REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT PROGRAM.

MR. MAGNER THANK YOU MAYOR, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, COMING OUT OF THE HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT, THERE WERE FOUR ACTION ITEMS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED FOR TO BE ACTED ON HERE IN 2026. ONE WAS TO MAP OUT A PLAN FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TO PARTICIPATE IN THE CDBG PROGRAM, STARTING WITH FISCAL YEAR 28, OUR FISCAL YEAR 28, WHICH STARTS ON OCTOBER 1ST OF 2027. AND SO WE'RE VERY PLEASED TO HAVE MAUREEN MILLIGAN, OF IS DIRECTOR OF GROW AMERICA AND ALSO A DOING A FINE JOB REGIONALLY AS WELL, BUT VERY WELL TO HAVE HER BACK TO PRESENT THAT PLAN TO YOU. AND SO AT THE END OF THE BRIEFING, WE'RE LOOKING FOR A THUMBS UP THAT YOU'D LIKE US TO LAUNCH ON THE STEPS THAT WOULD BE NEEDED TO POSITION OURSELVES FOR THAT PARTICIPATION. SO, MAUREEN, AS ALWAYS, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR GUIDANCE AND EXPERTISE ON

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THIS TOPIC, AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU FOR FURTHER BRIEFING. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. SO I HAVE 20 SLIDES AND ABOUT 20 MINUTES TO MAKE YOU CDBG EXPERTS. SO LET'S SEE HOW WE DO. THERE'S A QUIZ AT THE END. JUST KIDDING. MAYBE NOT. SO AS THE CITY MANAGER SAID THAT THE THIS BRIEFING ON CDBG IS FOLLOWING UP THE GUIDANCE THAT YOU GAVE RELATED TO THE HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT AND PURSUING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDING AS A FUNDING SOURCE FOR SOME OF YOUR HOUSING AND MAYBE MORE EXPANDED COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT NEEDS. SO JUST WANTED TO QUICKLY REMIND YOU OF THE THREE PRIORITY HOUSING NEEDS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE IN THE HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT. SO NEED ONE WAS THAT OLDER, LOW INCOME HOMEOWNERS NEED THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAFELY AGE IN PLACE, WHETHER THAT'S IN THEIR EXISTING HOME OR THAT WE'RE PROVIDING NEW HOUSING THAT MEETS THEIR NEEDS MORE REASONABLY PRICED FOR SALE. HOUSING UNITS ARE NEEDED TO ACCOMMODATE FAMILIES AND CHILDREN, AND MORE WELL MAINTAINED RENTAL HOUSING UNITS ARE NEEDED THAT ARE AFFORDABLE FOR LOWER WAGE WORKERS, AND WE'LL REVISIT THIS SLIDE NEAR THE END OF THE PRESENTATION TO TALK ABOUT HOW GOOD OF A FIT CDBG IS TO FUND ALL OF THOSE THREE NEEDS. SO AT THE END OF LAST YEAR, YOU GAVE THE CITY MANAGER THE FOLLOWING GUIDANCE. ONE WAS THAT YOU DID WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IMPLEMENTING THE HOUSING STRATEGY, AND THAT YOU WANTED TO PRIORITIZE HOME REPAIR, AS WELL AS MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING. AND THEN THERE WERE SEVERAL FUNDING SOURCES AND INCENTIVES THAT YOU IDENTIFIED, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDING BEING ONE OF THOSE, AS WELL AS OPPORTUNITY ZONES THAT CAN SERVE AS AN INCENTIVE TO ATTRACT PRIVATE CAPITAL INTO DISTRESSED NEIGHBORHOODS, AS WELL AS A HOUSING STARTING A HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION AND A PUBLIC FACILITIES CORPORATION. SO TODAY, AS I MENTIONED, WE'RE GOING TO DIVE DEEPER INTO CDBG JUST SO THAT YOU UNDERSTAND HOW CITY STAFF WILL START MOVING FORWARD. ONCE YOU GIVE THE THUMBS UP TO START DESIGNING A PROGRAM OR PROGRAMS THAT COULD BE FUNDED BY CDBG. SO JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON CDBG, BECAUSE I KNOW FEDERAL FUNDING RIGHT NOW CAN BE A CONCERN. WILL IT, IF THE CITY GOES AND ACCEPTS CDBG FUNDING, CAN WE BE FAIRLY CERTAIN THAT IT WILL BE A FUNDING SOURCE THAT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO ACCESS IN, IN YEARS AFTER THE FIRST YEAR OF FUNDING? SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND. CDBG JUST RECENTLY CELEBRATED 50 YEARS OF EXISTENCE, AND IT'S A IT'S A PROGRAM THAT HAS SURVIVED MULTIPLE ADMINISTRATIONS, MULTIPLE DOWNTURNS IN THE ECONOMY. BUT THERE ARE A COUPLE OF KEY FACTORS THAT HAS MADE IT HAD UNIVERSAL REALLY APPEAL. AND THE BIGGEST IS THAT IT FUNDS A BROAD RANGE OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES ALL ACROSS THE UNITED STATES. SO BASICALLY EVERY MAJOR METRO, AS WELL AS EVERY URBAN COUNTY, AND THEN EVERY STATE IS RECEIVING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDING. SO IT REALLY IS SPREAD ACROSS THE THE COUNTRY. YOU CAN SEE ABOUT OVER A THOUSAND ENTITLEMENT JURISDICTIONS. AND IT SUPPORTS IF YOU LOOK AT THAT LAST BULLET, IT SUPPORTS A WIDE RANGE OF ACTIVITIES, INCLUDING HOUSING, BUT ALSO INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENTS AND PROVIDING FUNDING TO LOCAL NONPROFITS THAT PROVIDE LOCAL LOCAL SERVICES. FUNDING HAS DECLINED, AS WELL AS THE NUMBER OF ENTITLEMENT JURISDICTIONS HAVE RISEN. AND SO CITIES HAVE SEEN DECLINES IN THEIR CDBG FUNDING, BUT NOT DRASTIC CUTS. AND WE WENT OVER THIS IN SOME OF MY EARLIER PRESENTATIONS, BUT JUST WANTED TO TO JUST HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE KEY PARTS OF CDBG AS WE THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU COULD DO WITH COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDING.

SO THE MOST IMPORTANT IS ANY OF YOUR ACTIVITIES HAVE TO MEET ONE NATIONAL OBJECTIVE, THE PRIMARY ONE BEING BENEFIT TO LOW AND MODERATE INCOME PERSONS, BUT ALSO ERADICATING BLIGHT AND SLUMS OR AN URGENT NEED. AND THAT'S USED VERY RARELY. IT WOULD BE A FEW SUFFERED A FLOOD OR A TORNADO OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND YOU DIDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO ADDITIONAL DISASTER FUNDING. YOU COULD USE YOUR CDBG FUNDING. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, 70% OF YOUR EXPENDITURES HAVE TO BENEFIT LOW AND MODERATE INCOME PERSONS. SO AS WE TALK ABOUT DIFFERENT PROGRAM MODELS THAT YOU COULD ADOPT, THE FOCUS ON BENEFITING SPECIFIC LOW AND MODERATE INCOME PERSONS OR BENEFITING AREAS WHERE THERE ARE LOW AND MODERATE INCOME PERSONS WHO ARE CONCENTRATED, ARE GOING TO BE THE TWO WAYS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE YOUR CDBG PROGRAM. AND THEN CDBG IMPOSES TWO OTHER MAJOR CAPS. ONE IS IF YOU WANT TO FUND YOUR LOCAL COMMUNITY BASED SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS, ONLY 15% OF YOUR CDBG ALLOCATION ANNUAL ALLOCATION CAN SUPPORT THOSE ACTIVITIES. AND THEN ONLY 20% OF THE FUNDING CAN BE USED ON ADMINISTRATIVE AND PLANNING ACTIVITIES. AND ON THE NEXT SLIDE, I'LL REVIEW WHAT WE DEFINE OR WHAT HUD DEFINES AS LOW AND MODERATE INCOME PERSONS. BUT JUST TO NOTE THAT THOSE ARE

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SET BY HUD, THEY'RE NOT SET BY THE LOCAL CITY OR THE COUNTY. SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT HARD TO SEE. THIS IS AN UPDATE. THE LAST TIME I PRESENTED, WE HAD THE 2025 NUMBERS. NOW WE HAVE THE 2026 NUMBERS. SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THE MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME FOR THE DFW REGION, IN WHICH RICHARDSON IS PART OF, IS 121,100. SO HUD THEN USES THAT MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME TO SET ITS INCOME LIMITS. SO AS WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE LAST PRESENTATION, THAT'S WHERE YOU HEAR AM I OR AREA MEDIAN INCOME OR 80% OF AM I COMES FROM THIS CHART. AND HUD RECOGNIZES THAT THE BIGGER YOUR FAMILY IS, THE MORE INCOME YOU NEED TO SUPPORT ALL OF THOSE WAGE EARNERS, WAGE EARNERS OR DEPENDENTS. SO THE INCOME LIMITS ARE SET HIGHER BASED ON THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO ARE IN YOUR FAMILY. SO IF WE TALK ABOUT FOUR PERSONS, THAT'S WHERE HUD USES THE EXACT MATH. SO YOU CAN DO 80% OF 121 100 AND THAT THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT YOU'LL SEE IN THE FOUR PERSON. AM I. SO LOW INCOME IS DETERMINED FOR A FAMILY OF FOUR TO BE 96,900, VERY LOW INCOME, WHICH IS THE TOP LINE, 60,550, AND EXTREMELY LOW INCOME AT 36,350. FOR A FAMILY OF FOUR WITH CDBG, YOUR LOW AND MODERATE INCOME ACTIVITIES HAVE TO BENEFIT THE 80% AMI OR BELOW.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU HAVE TO SERVE FAMILIES THAT ARE AT THAT HIGH HIGHER INCOME, RIGHT? THAT'S ALMOST $100,000. YOU COULD CHOOSE TO SET YOUR YOUR PROGRAM LIMITS LOWER, BUT YOU COULDN'T SET THEM ANY HIGHER THAN THAT 80% AMI THRESHOLD. SO JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE MORE OF A FLAVOR OF WHAT CDBG CAN FUND. SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOUSING, WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT HOME REPAIR, BUT THAT CAN BE ON THE SINGLE FAMILY SIDE THAT CAN ALSO BE ON THE MULTIFAMILY SIDE. IT CAN ALSO FUND ENHANCED CODE ENFORCEMENT. SO NOT YOUR BASIC CODE ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM, BUT IF YOU WERE CHOOSING TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL CODE ENFORCEMENT SERVICES, IT COULD FUND THAT AS LONG AS IT'S PAIRED WITH SERVICES FOR HOUSEHOLDS THAT CAN'T MAKE THOSE CODE VIOLATION REPAIRS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED THROUGH YOUR CODE ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM. AND THEN YOU COULD ACQUIRE VACANT. VACANT BUILDINGS THAT WOULD BE REHABILITATED FOR HOUSING PURPOSES. YOU CAN INVEST HEAVILY IN PUBLIC FACILITIES AND INFRASTRUCTURE. SO THAT CAN BE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVING FACILITIES LIKE A SENIOR CENTER OR A PARK AND RECREATION CENTER, AS WELL AS STREET REPAIRS, WATER AND SEWER. SIDEWALKS AND PARKS CAN ALSO BE FUNDED THROUGH CDBG. AS LONG AS AS WE REMEMBER, THEY'RE BENEFITING PRIMARILY LOW AND MODERATE INCOME PERSONS. AS I'VE MENTIONED, YOU CAN FUND LOCAL AGENCIES THAT PROVIDE SOCIAL SERVICES, AND HUD REALLY HAS A REALLY BROAD DEFINITION OF WHAT PUBLIC SERVICES CAN BE, BUT IT CAN BE EVERYTHING FROM HOMELESS, SERVING HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS, SENIORS, YOUTH WORKFORCE TRAINING AND DOMESTIC VIOLENCE PREVENTION ARE SOME OF THE KEY ONES. AND THEN YOU CAN ALSO ENGAGE IN SPECIAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES. SO YOU COULD PROVIDE LOANS OR GRANTS TO SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS. YOU COULD FUND INFRASTRUCTURE IN A BUSINESS PARK IF YOU'RE TRYING TO ATTRACT MORE BUSINESSES, BUT YOU DON'T SEE A WHOLE LOT OF JURISDICTIONS FUND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THROUGH CDBG BECAUSE THERE ARE ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS THAT YOU HAVE TO MEET. SO IT CAN BE A BIT COMPLICATED TO FUND SOME SOME ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. NOT IMPOSSIBLE, JUST A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED. SO I WANTED TO JUST WALK YOU THROUGH HOW CDBG FUNDING FLOWS FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DOWN TO YOUR COMMUNITY, JUST SO YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WHERE THOSE KIND OF DECISION POINTS ARE MADE OF, HOW MUCH FUNDING YOU'RE GOING TO RECEIVE. SO THE PRESIDENT WILL SUBMIT HIS HIS BUDGET, AND THEN CONGRESS WILL PASS A SERIES OF APPROPRIATION BILLS THAT EITHER ACCEPT THE PRESIDENT'S BUDGET OR MAKE CHANGES. BUT THEN THE THE PRESIDENT CAN EITHER SIGN THOSE APPROPRIATION BILLS OR VETO THOSE BILLS. SO THERE'S SO THERE'S SOME BACK AND FORTH.

AND CERTAINLY WE'VE SEEN WITH SOME AGENCIES THAT THAT CAN REALLY BE DELAYED. SO ONE OF THE RISKS WITH ACCEPTING FEDERAL FUNDING IS YOU COULD HAVE YOUR FUNDING ALLOCATION BE DELAYED. SO YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GETTING UNTIL LATER IN YOUR YEAR. AND IT'S JUST HARDER FOR YOU TO PLAN. BUT AS WE'VE SEEN WITH CDBG, THE FUNDING EVENTUALLY WILL COME THROUGH, AND IT USUALLY DOESN'T GET CAUGHT UP IN SOME OF THE MORE CONTROVERSIAL BUDGET APPROPRIATIONS. ONCE THAT THE PRESIDENT HAS SIGNED THE APPROPRIATIONS BILL, THEN HUD WILL SEND OUT AN ALLOCATION NOTICE TO EVERY COMMUNITY TO LET YOU KNOW WHAT YOU CAN EXPECT. YOUR FUNDING AMOUNT IS GOING TO BE IN THE NEXT YEAR. THEN THE WORK REALLY STARTS AT

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THE LOCAL LEVEL, THE OBLIGATION LEVEL. YOU'LL DEVELOP AN ANNUAL ACTION PLAN THAT WILL LIST THE ACTIVITIES THAT YOU INTEND TO FUND AND HOW MUCH YOU INTEND TO ALLOCATE TO THOSE PROGRAMS. AND THERE NEEDS TO BE A PUBLIC INPUT PROCESS BEFORE YOU FINALIZE THAT PLAN. BUT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, YOU WOULD GO THROUGH A PUBLIC INPUT PROCESS, AND THEN YOU WOULD, AS A COUNCIL, ADOPT THAT ANNUAL ACTION PLAN, AND THEN THE CITY STAFF GETS TO WORK HIRING CONTRACTORS, DELIVERING PROGRAMS ON THEIR OWN AND PAYING THE BILLS. AND YOU START THEN DRAWING DOWN AGAINST THE CDBG GRANT. SO I WANTED TO JUST SHOW YOU HOW SOME OF YOUR PEER CITIES SPEND THEIR CDBG FUNDING. SO THIS IS NOT THE ALLOCATION THAT THEY RECEIVED. THIS IS THE MONEY THEY GOT OUT THE DOOR IN THE MOST RECENT YEAR. SO YOU CAN SEE THAT FOR SOME OF THE PUBLIC SERVICES IS PURPLE. SO FOR ALLEN, YOU CAN SEE THEIR PUBLIC SERVICES IS ABOVE THE 15% CAP. BUT IT PROBABLY WAS JUST TIMING OF HOW THEY WERE PAYING THEIR BILLS, RIGHT? THEY THEY'RE LIKE, THEY'RE UNDER THE 15% CAP, BUT THEY JUST PAID MORE OF THEIR, THEIR BILLS IN THIS YEAR. BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE ARE SOME PROGRAMS THAT REALLY FOCUS HEAVILY ON HOUSING AND CODE ENFORCEMENT, WHILE OTHERS ARE VERY INFRASTRUCTURE HEAVY. AND WE'RE GOING TO WALK THROUGH THOSE THREE PRIMARY MODELS. SO THE FIRST MODEL THAT YOU REALLY SEE, THE CITIES OF ALLEN AND PLANO IS A HOUSING FOCUSED MODEL. SO ALLEN HAS DISPERSED ABOUT $200,000 IN THE MOST RECENT PROGRAM YEAR THAT WE COULD LOOK AT PUBLIC DATA. AND THEY FOCUSED ON SINGLE FAMILY REHAB, WHICH WAS ABOUT 66% OF THEIR THEIR FUNDING. SO REALLY, THEY FOCUS ON THAT HOME REHAB PROGRAM. THEY PROVIDE SOME FUNDING TO LOCAL NONPROFITS AND DON'T SPEND ANY FUNDING, AT LEAST IN THIS LAST YEAR ON INFRASTRUCTURE. SIMILAR WITH PLANO, THEY GET A LITTLE BIT BIGGER OF AN AWARD. SO EVEN THOUGH THEY SPENT 63% OF THEIR FUNDING, AS OPPOSED TO 66% OF THEIR FUNDING ON HOME REPAIR, THEY SPENT MORE OF IT BECAUSE THEY SPENT MORE FUNDING, BECAUSE THEY HAVE MORE FUNDING AVAILABLE. THEY ALSO PROVIDE FUNDING TO SOCIAL SERVICES AGENCIES, AND THEY LIKE THE CITY OF RICHARDSON AND THE OTHER CITIES ALSO SUPPLEMENT THE CDBG PUBLIC SERVICES FUNDING WITH THEIR OWN GENERAL FUNDING. SO SOCIAL SERVICES AGENCIES ARE NOT ALL FUNDED BY CDBG. AND THAT'S A VERY SMART THING, ESPECIALLY IN YOUR EARLY YEARS OF YOUR PROGRAM, BECAUSE YOUR LOCAL AGENCIES MAY NOT BE USED TO ADMINISTERING CDBG FUNDING, AND THEY'RE GOING TO NEED TO RAMP UP. THEY'RE GOING TO NEED TO UNDERSTAND HOW TO ADMINISTER THOSE FUNDS. SO BEING ABLE TO KIND OF PICK AND CHOOSE WHICH AGENCIES RECEIVE FEDERAL FUNDING VERSUS CDBG FUNDING CAN BE A VERY GOOD PROGRAM DESIGN DECISION. SO CITY OF CARROLLTON AND CITY OF FRISCO, THEY LEAN MUCH MORE HEAVILY TO FUNDING PARKS AND STREETS AND SEWER AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS. SO CARROLLTON DISPERSED ABOUT $1 MILLION LAST YEAR, FOCUSING HEAVILY ON PARK AND RECREATION FACILITIES AND STREETS, SMALLER HOUSING REHAB PROGRAM. AND THEY STILL DID FUND SOME SOCIAL SERVICES AGENCIES VERY SIMILAR WITH FRISCO, FOCUSED A LOT ON STREET IMPROVEMENTS. AND SO I FORGOT TO MENTION ON THE OTHER SIDE, BUT IN THE IN FUNDING MODEL ONE, WHEN YOU'RE DOING A LOT OF HOME REPAIR, THAT'S REALLY TANGIBLE TO YOUR RESIDENTS, RIGHT? THEY CAN TELL NEIGHBORS, THE CITY HELPED ME REPAIR MY HOME.

PEOPLE WHO MAY HAVE BEEN COMPLAINING ABOUT CODE VIOLATION ISSUES, THEY SEE THE REPAIRS SO IT CAN BE VERY VISIBLE THROUGHOUT NEIGHBORHOODS. THE DOWNSIDE IS YOU'RE SERVING INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE RATHER THAN MAKING INFRASTRUCTURE REPAIRS THAT REALLY CAN SERVE THOUSANDS OF RESIDENTS. IF IT'S REPAIRING A STREET OR PUTTING IN A NEW PARK.

AND SO IT'S THE OPPOSITE FOR YOUR INFRASTRUCTURE HEAVY MODEL. PEOPLE SEE A STREET REPAIRED, BUT THEN THEY SEE THEIR NEIGHBOR STRUGGLING WITH HOME REPAIRS, RIGHT. AND SO THEY DON'T THEY DON'T SEE THAT INDIVIDUAL LEVEL BENEFICIARY. AND THEN GARLAND, BECAUSE OF GARLAND'S POPULATION, ESPECIALLY ITS LOW AND MODERATE INCOME POPULATION, IT JUST RECEIVES MORE CDBG FUNDING. IT ALSO RECEIVES ADDITIONAL GRANTS, THE HOME INVESTMENT PARTNERSHIPS PROGRAM GRANT AND THE EMERGENCY SOLUTIONS GRANT THAT FOCUSES ON HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS. AND SO THEY CAN JUST THEY CAN OPERATE A VERY ROBUST, DIVERSIFIED CDBG PROGRAM JUST BECAUSE THERE'S MORE FUNDING TO ADMINISTER, RIGHT? BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO SPIN UP A PROGRAM THAT'S ONLY GOING TO SERVE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE A YEAR, IT'S GOING TO YOU'RE GOING TO END UP SPENDING MORE ON ADMIN THAN YOU DO ON, ON YOUR ACTUAL BENEFICIARIES.

SO, YOU KNOW, MADE THIS NOTE WITHIN THE STRENGTHS AND THE TRADE OFFS THAT BECAUSE

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RICHARDSON IS A, A CITY THAT CONTINUES TO ATTRACT BUSINESSES THAT PAY HIGHER WAGES, YOU'RE NOT LIKELY TO HAVE SIGNIFICANT GROWTH IN YOUR LOW AND MODERATE INCOME POPULATION. SO OUR ESTIMATE OF WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO RECEIVE AROUND 750, 780 000 A YEAR IS LIKELY NOT GOING TO GROW UNLESS THERE WAS A BIG INFUSION AND CHANGE, BIG INFUSION OF FUNDING AND CHANGE IN FUNDING FORMULAS AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL. WE HAVEN'T REALLY SEEN THAT. SO DON'T REALLY EXPECT THAT YOU WOULD NECESSARILY BE ABLE TO OPERATE THIS ROBUST OF A PROGRAM. IF YOU WERE ONLY USING CDBG TO FUND YOUR PROGRAM. SO WHAT ARE SOME OF THE MAJOR TAKEAWAYS FROM THESE THREE COMPARISONS? SO ONE, LIKE WE JUST DISCUSSED, THE POPULATION OF YOUR LOW AND MODERATE INCOME PERSONS REALLY DRIVES HOW ROBUST OF A PROGRAM YOU CAN OPERATE. TWO THAT PUBLIC SERVICES CAP, YOU HAVE TO MAKE THAT DECISION. ARE WE GOING TO GO ALL IN AND GO UP TO THE 15% CAP TO TO FUND OUR THROUGH CDBG, OR ARE WE GOING TO SUPPLEMENT WITH LOCAL FUNDS? YOU'RE KIND OF ON A FLIP SIDE, RIGHT? YOU'VE BEEN USING LOCAL FUNDS, AND NOW CDBG COULD BE USED TO ACTUALLY ENHANCE, IF YOU CHOSE TO, WHAT YOU GET OUT TO YOUR NONPROFITS IN YOUR COMMUNITY. WE SAW THROUGH ALL THREE MODELS THAT HOUSING REHAB IS SOMETHING THAT JURISDICTIONS WILL FUND. AND I WILL SAY, YOU KNOW, AND I'VE TALKED WITH CITY STAFF ABOUT THIS, YOU DON'T WANT TO GO ALL IN ON ONLY ONE INVESTMENT. WE'RE ONLY GOING TO FUND STREETS WITH CDBG, OR WE'RE ONLY GOING TO FUND HOME REPAIR BECAUSE PROGRAMS HIT BUMPS. AND CDBG HAS WHAT'S CALLED A TIMELINESS TEST. SO 30, 30 DAYS BEFORE THE END OF YOUR FISCAL YEAR, YOU CAN'T HAVE MORE THAN ONE AND A HALF TIMES OF YOUR ANNUAL ALLOCATION IN YOUR FUND BALANCE. OTHERWISE, HUD CAN START CLAWING BACK SOME OF THAT FUNDING. SO YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE PROGRAMS THAT DRAW DOWN FUNDING. AND THAT'S THE RISK OF ONLY FOCUSING ON ONE TYPE OF OF PROGRAM IS THAT PROGRAM. YOU COULD HAVE A CONTRACTOR THAT DOESN'T PERFORM WELL. YOU COULD HAVE HOMEOWNERS THAT ARE SLOW TO, TO QUALIFY FOR REPAIR PROGRAMS. AND SO YOU WANT TO HAVE SOME LEVEL OF DIVERSITY IN THE PROGRAMS THAT YOU OPERATE. AND THEN INFRASTRUCTURE, YOU CAN SEE FOR AT LEAST TWO OF THE MODELS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS ALSO FOCUSED ON. THE GOOD THING WITH INFRASTRUCTURE TOO, IS IT'S USUALLY A BIG SPEND. STREETS AND SIDEWALKS ARE NOT CHEAP TO DO. SO AS LONG AS YOU CAN GET THAT MONEY OUT THE DOOR, YOU'RE SPENDING THAT MONEY AND YOU'RE NOT LIKELY TO HIT YOUR YOUR TIMELINESS. YOU'RE NOT LIKELY TO GO OVER YOUR 1.5. AND THEN AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AT LEAST WITHIN THE PEER CITIES IN THE AREA, JUST IS NOT SOMETHING THAT'S FUNDED WITH CDBG. NOT IMPOSSIBLE, BUT MORE DIFFICULT.

AND SO YOUR REAL STRATEGIC QUESTION THAT STAFF WILL START WORKING THROUGH ONCE YOU GIVE THEM THE THE THUMBS UP IS WHAT SHOULD BE OUR PROGRAM MODEL? WHAT ARE THE NEEDS IN THE CITY THAT WE'RE NOT CURRENTLY FUNDING? WHAT COULD WE USE CDBG FOR? WHAT'S THE CAPACITY OF THE THE LOCAL NONPROFIT COMMUNITY TO BE ABLE TO ADMINISTER SOME OF THIS FUNDING? SO JUST TO, TO CIRCLE BACK TO THIS THEN. SO HELPING AGING HOMEOWNERS AGE IN PLACE IS A GREAT FIT FOR CDBG BECAUSE HOME REPAIR IS AN ELIGIBLE ACTIVITY FOR THE OTHER TWO BECAUSE THEY CONSIDER NEW CONSTRUCTION, NEW FOR SALE HOUSING UNITS FOR FAMILIES, NEW RENTAL HOUSING FOR LOWER WAGE WORKERS. CDBG DOESN'T ACTUALLY, IN MOST INSTANCES ALLOW YOU TO FUND NEW CONSTRUCTION. IT FOCUSES ON REPAIR AND SO CDBG IS NOT NECESSARILY A GOOD FIT FOR NEEDS TWO AND THREE. BUT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED WITH OPPORTUNITY ZONES AND WITH YOUR HFC AND YOUR PFC, OTHER WAYS THAT YOU COULD TRY TO MEET THOSE NEEDS WITH DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES. AND THEN JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT YOUR HOUSING STRATEGY IS NOT THE ONLY PLAN. IT'S NOT THE ONLY ASSESSMENT THAT'S BEEN DONE RECENTLY. YOU ALWAYS, ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, ARE LOOKING AT YOUR CAPITAL, YOUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT NEEDS. YOU HAVE A RECENT PARK RECREATION, OPEN SPACE MASTER PLAN, AS WELL AS AN ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN. AND ALL OF THEM HAVE RECENTLY ASSESSED THE NEEDS IN THE COMMUNITY AND ALL OF THOSE, WHETHER YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PARK AND REC, PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE, OR STREETS AND SIDEWALKS, WHICH REALLY ARE PART OF YOUR PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE TOO, ARE ELIGIBLE ACTIVITIES AS LONG AS THEY'RE PRIMARILY BENEFITING LOW AND MODERATE INCOME PERSONS. SO YOU, YOU HAVE THE FRAMEWORK ALREADY TO START TAKING A LOOK AT WHAT COULD WE FUND WITH CDBG? SO THESE NEXT TWO SLIDES I'LL GO THROUGH REALLY QUICKLY BECAUSE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THEM IN EARLIER PRESENTATIONS, BUT YOU'LL HAVE TO RAMP UP A CDBG PROGRAM. SO ONE OF THE THINGS YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FOCUS ON IS PREPARING DOCUMENTS. THERE'S A FIVE YEAR CONSOLIDATED PLAN, AS WELL AS

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YOUR ANNUAL ACTION PLAN THAT I ALREADY TALKED TO YOU ABOUT. YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO DEVELOP THOSE PLANS AS WELL AS A CITIZEN PARTICIPATION PLAN. HOW ARE WE GOING TO REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY TO HAVE THEIR INPUT AND FEEDBACK ON WHAT ARE OUR NEEDS AND HOW SHOULD WE FUND THEM? YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SET UP SPECIFIC FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT AND OTHER SYSTEMS THAT ARE NOT SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU'RE ALREADY DEALING WITH, ADMINISTERING OTHER FEDERAL FUNDS. THERE'S SOME REALLY OUTDATED HUD DATABASES THAT SOMEBODY INTERNALLY IS GOING TO HAVE TO GET FAMILIAR WITH, BUT NOT SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU'RE ALREADY DOING WITH YOUR OTHER HUD, HUD, OR OTHER FEDERAL PROGRAMS. AND THEN, AS THE CITY MANAGER MENTIONED, THE TIMING OF ALL OF THIS IS YOU'LL START YOUR CITIZEN, YOU'LL END YOUR CITIZEN PARTICIPATION, YOU'LL SUBMIT YOUR PLANS IN AUGUST OF 2027, AND THEN YOU'D BE ABLE TO ROLL OUT YOUR FIRST PROGRAMS AT THE START OF THE FISCAL YEAR IN OCTOBER 2027. A COUPLE OF THINGS YOU CAN BE DOING IN THE MEANTIME, THOUGH, IS CHOOSING A STAFFING MODEL. SO FOR YOUR FIRST COUPLE OF YEARS, YOUR STAFFING MODEL IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE DIFFERENT THAN IN YOUR LATER YEARS OF THE PROGRAM, BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE IN-HOUSE EXPERTISE RIGHT NOW TO SPIN UP AND OPERATE A CDBG PROGRAM. BUT YOU HAVE PLENTY OF VERY SMART PEOPLE WHO CAN LEARN VERY QUICKLY. SO ONE IS YOU WOULD HIRE A PROGRAM MANAGER, SO YOU'D PROBABLY TRY TO STEAL SOMEBODY FROM ANOTHER CITY THAT HAS A CDBG PROGRAM AND HAVE THEM ADMINISTER THE PROGRAM FROM THE OUTSET. THE SECOND WOULD BE HIRING A CONSULTANT TO ADMINISTER ALL ASPECTS OF THE PROGRAM, BOTH ADMINISTRATIVELY. IS WORKING AND WORKING WITH ANY OF YOUR SUBRECIPIENTS. AND THEN THE HYBRID IS WE'RE GOING TO HIRE A CONSULTANT WHO CAN THEN TRAIN STAFF SO THAT IN 2 TO 3 YEARS WE CAN ADMINISTER THE PROGRAM IN-HOUSE. YOU ALSO IN THIS NEXT YEAR CAN BE BUILDING YOUR SUBRECIPIENT INFRASTRUCTURE. THIS IS THE NONPROFITS WHO CAN PROVIDE PUBLIC SERVICES. YOU CAN BE MEETING WITH THEM. YOU CAN BE SEEING WHAT CAPACITY DO THEY ALREADY HAVE TO ADMINISTER CDBG FUNDING. YOU CAN BE PROVIDING TRAINING SO THAT THEY COME OCTOBER 2027, ARE READY TO ACCEPT THOSE FUNDS AND READY TO ROLL OUT PROGRAMS. AND YOU DON'T WASTE ANOTHER SIX MONTHS OR A YEAR GETTING PEOPLE READY TO ACTUALLY ADMINISTER THAT FUNDING. WE TALKED ABOUT ESTABLISHING YOUR FINANCIAL SYSTEMS, AND THEN YOU'LL STAND UP YOUR CITIZEN PARTICIPATION. I WILL SAY A LOT OF CITIES WILL HAVE A COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION THAT THEY WILL, THEY'LL HAVE. AND SO THOSE WILL BE CITIZEN VOLUNTEERS THAT WILL REVIEW, ESPECIALLY THE PUBLIC SERVICES APPLICATIONS. SO THE NONPROFITS WHO WANT TO ADMINISTER SOME PROGRAMS, THOSE CITIZENS OFTEN ARE IN SOME CITIES, ARE THE PEOPLE WHO WILL REVIEW AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL ABOUT WHAT SHOULD BE FUNDED. SO OUT OF ALL THIS, AND THIS IS THE LAST SLIDE BEFORE. WELL, AND SECOND TO LAST SLIDE BEFORE DISCUSSION, ARE THE KEY RECOMMENDATIONS COMING OUT OF THIS THE CDBG ASSESSMENT. SO ONE IS THAT YOU SHOULD PURSUE ACCEPTANCE OF THE FUNDING. YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THE CITY MANAGER DIRECTION, THAT THAT WAS SOMETHING YOU WERE INTERESTED IN. HE WANTED TO GIVE YOU THIS MORE IN DEPTH BRIEFING JUST SO THAT YOU FELT COMFORTABLE WITH IT. AND THEN WE CAN SEND A WRITTEN LETTER TO HUD SAYING, WE WANT TO TAKE THE CDBG FUNDING, WHICH SHOULD BE ABOUT 798,000 FOR 2027 TWO. AND I'VE HAD THIS SECOND BULLET IS A RECOMMENDATION THAT I'VE HAD A CHANCE TO TALK WITH STAFF ABOUT. SO IT'S BOTH MY RECOMMENDATION AS WELL AS STAFF'S IN AGREEMENT THAT THE FIRST COUPLE OF YEARS OF YOUR CDBG PROGRAM, YOU SHOULD HAVE A HYBRID APPROACH. SO HAVE A CONSULTANT WHO CAN TRAIN UP INTERNAL STAFF WHO WOULD ADMINISTER THE PROGRAM. YOUR PROGRAM IS PROBABLY NEVER GOING TO BE BIG ENOUGH THAT YOU WOULD NEED MULTIPLE FULL TIME STAFF THAT ARE DEDICATED TO IT, BUT YOU NEED TO, TO TRAIN UP SOME OF YOUR INTERNAL STAFF SO THAT THEY FEEL COMFORTABLE ADMINISTERING THE PROGRAM, WORKING WITH BENEFICIARIES, INPUTTING DATA INTO HUD SYSTEMS, AND THEN LATER YEARS, YOU CAN EVALUATE, DOES THIS WORK? DO WE STILL WANT TO HAVE AN EXTERNAL CONSULTANT ADMINISTERING SOME OF THIS, OR DO WE FEEL COMFORTABLE ENOUGH WITH IN-HOUSE STAFF THAT WE CAN ADMINISTER IT ON OUR OWN? AND THEN FOR AT LEAST SOME OF YOUR PROGRAMS, YOU SHOULD USE SUBRECIPIENTS SO YOU COULD IF YOU DECIDE TO DO HOME REPAIR, YOU COULD ADMINISTER THE PROGRAM YOURSELF. YOU COULD HIRE CONTRACTORS, YOU COULD YOUR STAFF COULD BE THE ONES THAT PEOPLE COME TO CITY HALL AND SUBMIT AN APPLICATION FOR HOME REPAIR. MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE YOU'VE GOT TRUSTED LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS THAT ALREADY HAVE RELATIONSHIPS WITH

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SENIORS AND OTHER LOW AND MODERATE INCOME PERSONS THAT MAY NEED HOME REPAIRS. LET THEM BE THE FACE OF THE PROGRAM, AND YOU CAN MONITOR THE PROGRAM. AND THEN THE FOURTH BULLET IS TONIGHT'S DISCUSSION IS NOT TO MAKE AN ABSOLUTE DETERMINATION OF WHAT MODEL YOU SHOULD USE.

ARE WE GOING TO FOCUS ON INFRASTRUCTURE? ARE WE GOING TO FOCUS HEAVILY ON HOUSING? BECAUSE WHEN YOU DO YOUR PLANNING PROCESS, WHICH WILL START EARLY 2027, YOU NEED TO OBTAIN CITIZEN INPUT, RESIDENT INPUT ON YOUR PROGRAM. SO YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE YOUR PLAN FULLY BAKED, BECAUSE YOU DO NEED TO HEAR FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS ABOUT WHAT THEY THINK YOU SHOULD SHOULD PRIORITIZE. SO THE TIMELINE AND NEXT STEPS, AND THIS IS OUR LAST SLIDE, IS TO GIVE DIRECTION IN TERMS OF PURSUING THE CDBG PROGRAM. AND THEN ONCE WE RECEIVE THE THUMBS UP TONIGHT, STAFF WILL SEND THE FORMAL NOTIFICATION NOTIFICATION TO HUD. WE'LL START CITIZEN PARTICIPATION IN EARLY 2027. AND THEN IN AUGUST, YOU WOULD SUBMIT YOUR CONSOLIDATED PLAN AND YOUR ANNUAL ACTION PLAN. HUD WOULD PROVIDE THE FUNDING TO YOU, AND YOU COULD ROLL OUT YOUR PROGRAMS IN OCTOBER OF 2027. SO WITH THAT, TURN IT OVER TO YOU.

MAYOR, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION. MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHENRIDER, COULD YOU GO BACK ONE SLIDE. JUST SOMETHING CAUGHT MY EYE THAT I. AT THE VERY BOTTOM IT SAYS SEVERAL BILLS ARE PENDING IN CONGRESS THAT MAY ALTER CDBG ELIGIBLE ACTIVITIES AND CROSSCUTTING REQUIREMENTS. CAN YOU ELABORATE ON THAT? YES, ABSOLUTELY. AND SORRY SIR, I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT IT'S ALL SO FAR. AT LEAST IT'S ALL GOOD. SO AS I MENTIONED, CDBG DOESN'T ONLY IN LIMITED INSTANCES CAN YOU FUND NEW CONSTRUCTION. SO THERE ARE BILLS THAT ARE PENDING IN CONGRESS THAT WOULD ALLOW CDBG TO FUND NEW CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES. AND THEN THERE'S DEFINITELY A A PUSH AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL TO REDUCE THE CONSTRAINTS TO BUILDING ADDITIONAL HOUSING. ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEWS HAVE BEEN ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S BEEN IDENTIFIED AS WHAT CAN REALLY SLOW THINGS DOWN. NOT AS CH IN TEXAS, BUT CERTAINLY HEAR ABOUT IT IN CALIFORNIA. RIGHT. AND SO THERE ARE SOME BILLS PENDING THAT WOULD REDUCE THE ACTIVITIES THAT ARE SUBJECT TO REALLY LENGTHY ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEWS WITH THE WITH THE THOUGHT PROCESS OF LET'S GET MORE HOUSING BUILT, LET'S GET MORE HOUSING CONSTRUCTED. AND SOME OF THESE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW REQUIREMENTS WEREN'T REALLY. WEREN'T REALLY PROTECTING EITHER PEOPLE FROM ENVIRONMENTAL HARM OR PREVENTING HOUSING CONSTRUCTION FROM HARMING THE ENVIRONMENT. SECOND QUESTION IS IF FOR SOME REASON CONGRESS DECIDED TO STOP FUNDING THIS FOR WHATEVER REASON, JUST KNOWING THAT SOMETIMES WE NEVER. YEAH, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT AT THAT POINT IN TIME, WE COULD GET WE COULD STOP. WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO COME UP WITH LOCAL FUNDS TO, TO COVER THE ROUGHLY $700,000. RIGHT. YOU WOULDN'T CONGRESS WOULD NEVER CLAW BACK FUNDING THAT THEY'VE ALLOCATED TO YOU. IT WOULD JUST BE YOU WOULD KNOW THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO CEASE OPERATING ANY OF THOSE ACTIVITIES MOVING FORWARD. AND YOU WOULD NEVER OBLIGATE. YOU WOULD NEVER SIGN CONTRACTS THAT WERE ABOVE WHAT YOU KNEW YOU WERE GETTING FROM HUD. SO IT'S, IT'S PART JUST GOOD FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT. AND THEN JUST KNOWING THAT YOU MAY HAVE TO DELIVER HARD NEWS IF FOR SOME REASON FUNDING WAS CUT. OKAY.

THANKS, COUNCILMEMBER JUSTICE. THANK YOU. MAYOR, CAN YOU GO BACK TO SLIDE 16 FOR ME? YES. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT WE HAVE BEFORE WE MAKE A DECISION TONIGHT, WE GET A BRIEFING ON EXACTLY WHAT STEP FOUR WOULD MEAN FOR US. I'M A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANS.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ALL ARE AND WHAT WE MIGHT BE AGREEING TO COMPLY TO OR BE OBLIGATED BY.

THAT CAUGHT MY EYE AND JUST WAS SORT OF IMMEDIATE GUT CONCERN ABOUT WHAT WHAT IS WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? I THINK IT'S GREAT. I CAN THINK OF A MILLION PLACES WE COULD USE THIS MONEY, BUT I DON'T WANT TO PUT OURSELVES IN A POSITION WHERE WE TAKE MONEY AND THEN UNKNOWINGLY PUT OURSELVES IN A WORSE POSITION BY HAVING AGREED TO SOMETHING WE DIDN'T KNOW WE WERE GETTING INTO. YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, WOULD WE HAVE TO GET RID OF A BOARD OR A COMMISSION OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES? AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING I'D LIKE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT BEFORE I WOULD COMMIT TO, TO THIS PROCESS, I THINK, YEAH, I THINK THAT'S VERY PRUDENT TO REVIEW THAT. YOU KNOW, I WOULD JUST SAY THAT, BUT IT'S NOT JUST WHAT'S EXISTING TODAY.

IT'S, YOU KNOW, THIS THIS OBLIGATION TO COMPLY WITH EXECUTIVE ORDERS COULD BE SOMETHING THAT'S COMPLETELY, YOU KNOW, UNFORESEEN AT THIS POINT IN TIME, BUT THAT, YOU

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KNOW, SIX MONTHS FROM NOW OR A YEAR FROM NOW BECAUSE SOME OTHER ISSUE ARISES IS SOMETHING THAT'S THRUST UPON US. SO I THINK THAT'S A IT'S PRUDENT TO KIND OF BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT EXECUTIVE ORDERS MIGHT BE OUT THERE TODAY THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO BE HIGHLY AWARE OF BEFORE AGREEING, BUT I JUST CAUTION YOU THAT THAT'S AN ONGOING THING. AND, YOU KNOW, ONCE YOU ONCE YOU START, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE PROGRAMS, IT WOULD BE NOT AS EASY AS, AS MAUREEN DESCRIBED IF YOU HAD THE KNOWLEDGE THAT THEY WERE GOING TO ELIMINATE THE PROGRAM OR DISCONTINUE THE PROGRAM. IF WE WERE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF A CYCLE IN AN EXECUTIVE ORDER CAME OUT AND WE DECIDED THAT WE WANTED TO WITHDRAW, THEN YEAH, I THINK THAT'S FAIR. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE GOING INTO IT. EYES WIDE OPEN COMPLETELY. AND I WILL SAY AT LEAST IN THE PAST YEAR, SOME OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS HAVE THERE HASN'T BEEN A LOT OF NOTICE TO THE THE JURISDICTIONS. BUT I WILL SAY IF YOU'RE ACCEPTING OTHER FEDERAL FUNDING, YOU'VE PROBABLY ALREADY GOT A FLAVOR OF WHAT WHAT THOSE REQUIREMENTS ARE BECAUSE OTHER FEDERAL AGENCIES ARE ATTACHING THOSE REQUIREMENTS TO ACCEPTANCE OF FEDERAL FUNDS. ALSO, NOT SO IT'S NOT JUST A HUD SPECIFIC. IT'S IT'S FEDERAL FUNDING IN GENERAL. COUNCIL MEMBER THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. JUST TO UNDERSTAND THIS THING MORE CLEARLY, THAT EVEN IF WE START THE PROCESS UNTIL WE GET THE MONEY, WE ARE NOT REQUIRED TO DO ANYTHING. I MEAN, WE CAN WE CAN ALWAYS WAIT TILL THE LAST MOMENT. OKAY, TO GET OUT FROM THIS PROCESS. AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, SINCE WE DON'T HAVE THIS PROGRAM AT ALL, I THINK WE'RE PRETTY SAFE IN A SENSE THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO CUT ANY PROGRAMS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY SPECIFIC PROGRAM DEVELOPED TO SPEND THE MONEY ON. AND OUR MONEY, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S NOT THAT SIGNIFICANT. STILL, IT'S A GOOD AMOUNT TO BE USED FOR CERTAIN PURPOSE. AND I THINK WITH THAT, I THINK I'LL BE OKAY MOVING FORWARD MYSELF. I THINK THAT WOULD BE MY OPINION. AND, AND PRETTY MUCH MOST OF THE CITY AROUND US, THEY ARE USING THIS THING FOR YEARS. I KNOW ARLINGTON, PLANO, THEY'VE BEEN USING FOR MANY YEARS, AND MANY OF THEM HAVE MORE PROGRAMS THAN WE CAN EVEN THINK OF BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT. SO SO WITH THAT, I THINK, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS A GOOD PROCESS FORWARD THAT, YOU KNOW, HAVING, YOU KNOW, RECEIVING LIKE, LET ME TELL YOU WHAT. ABOUT 800? YEAH, IT'S ABOUT 800,000. NOW. QUESTION IS THAT IS WE HAVE ABOUT ONE THIRD OF OUR HOMEOWNERS. THEY HAVE THEY HAVE THAT EXEMPTION. SENIOR CITIZEN THAT HAS ANYTHING, ANY IMPACT ON THE NUMBER OF DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT WE COULD RECEIVE? NO. SO THE THE WELL, IN SOME WAYS. SO THE FEDERAL FUNDING FORMULA IS BASED ON INCOME LEVELS AND LOWER AND MODERATE INCOME PERSONS. BUT IT DOES ALSO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT HOUSING CONDITION. SO IF YOU HAD A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF THOSE SENIOR OCCUPIED PROPERTIES THAT WERE IN SUBSTANDARD CONDITION, IT MIGHT SLIGHTLY BUMP UP HOW MUCH FUNDING YOU WOULD YOU WOULD RECEIVE. BUT THE EXEMPTION ITSELF IS A GOOD DATA POINT, RIGHT? ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A HOME REPAIR PROGRAM THAT FOCUSES ON SENIORS. IT HELPS YOU TARGET WHAT WHAT NEIGHBORHOODS YOU'D FOCUS ON, BUT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A DRIVER OF WHAT FUNDING YOU'D RECEIVE. OKAY. BUT IF WE HAVE MORE DATA, THAT WOULD BE BETTER. OH, ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. ABSOLUTELY. SO WE CAN WE CAN TRY TO MAXIMIZE WHATEVER WE CAN GET. AND WE'RE GOING TO, I'M SURE WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT, MAXIMIZE HOW MUCH WE CAN GET. ABSOLUTELY. BECAUSE IN YOUR FIRST COUPLE OF YEARS, AS PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ABOUT PROGRAMS, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO OUTREACH. AND SO BEING ABLE TO DO TARGETED OUTREACH IN SPECIFIC NEIGHBORHOODS AND KNOWING WHAT DOORS TO KNOCK ON IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO DOOR TO DOOR IS VERY, VERY HELPFUL. ALL RIGHT. SOUNDS GOOD. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER. THANK YOU, MAYOR MAUREEN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION. DON, CAN YOU RIGHT NOW WITH COUNCILWOMAN JUSTICE'S QUESTION? MAUREEN RESPONDED BACK ABOUT IF WE RECEIVE ANY FEDERAL FUNDING CURRENTLY, WE MAY ALREADY HAVE VISION INTO WHAT SOME OF THAT MAY HOW CURRENT EXECUTIVE ORDERS ARE AFFECTING US. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SPEAK TO THAT AS FAR AS HAVE WE SEEN ANY ISSUES? WHAT ARE WE RECEIVING FEDERAL MONEY ON? HAVE WE SEEN ANYTHING THAT WE SHOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT OR ANYTHING TO ADD ON TOP OF? KIND OF THAT SPEAKS TO COUNCILWOMAN JUSTICE'S QUESTION. NOTHING COMES TO MIND. WE ONLY WE

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RECEIVE A VERY MODEST AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR PUBLIC SAFETY DIRECTLY FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. MOST OTHER DOLLARS ARE GOING TO BE FUNNELED THROUGH TEXDOT OR COG. AND SO NOTHING COMES TO MIND. BUT I THINK THAT WE COULD I THINK THAT WE COULD ACHIEVE BOTH OF THESE MISSIONS OF PROVIDING A FOLLOW UP BRIEFING AFTER DOING A THOROUGH REVIEW OF EXISTING EXECUTIVE ORDERS AND STAY ON TASK WITH THE TIMING THAT WAS PRESENTED. AND SO I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO, IF YOU'D LIKE TO KIND OF AGREE IN PRINCIPLE TO THIS TIMETABLE, WE CAN FIND A, A VERY EFFECTIVE WAY OF RETURNING IN A TIMELY MANNER TO, TO KIND OF REVIEW THIS, THIS EXECUTIVE ORDER QUESTION. SO, BUT NOTHING COMES TO MIND THAT CURRENTLY IS. THAT'S THAT'S CURRENTLY AT PLAY. BUT AGAIN, THIS WOULD BE A WHOLE NOTHER REALM FOR US IN TERMS OF TAKING DOLLARS FROM THIS AGENCY. OKAY. THIS WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE. I MEAN, I'M FOR IT. I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS. I THINK COUNCILMAN JUSTICE QUESTION IS VALID. AND AND I'LL BE WATCHING THAT AS, AS STAFF LOOKS AT THAT FOR, OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT FUTURE COUNCILS WILL BE DECIDING ON. I WOULD HOPE THAT FUTURE COUNCILS THAT THIS AND FUTURE COUNCILS WILL LOOK AT THIS FROM A HOUSING AND REHAB. I'M QUITE SURPRISED THAT SO MUCH IS SPENT ON PUBLIC FACILITIES AND PUBLIC SERVICES. I WOULD HOPE THAT WE TRULY PUT IT IN HOUSING STOCK, WHETHER IT'S IN REHAB OR OPPORTUNITIES FOR BUILDING OUT.

SO YEAH, I'M INTERESTED TO SEE WHERE THIS GOES. I LOOK FORWARD TO IT MOVING FORWARD. THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN DORAN. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR YOU ALWAYS DELIVER THE INFORMATION SO WELL AND AND HELP US UNDERSTAND IT. I JUST WANT TO SAY, ONE, I I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS. I KNOW A LOT OF CITIES SURROUNDING CITIES THAT WE HAVE HAVE PROVIDE RFQS OR RFPS, YOU KNOW, TO PROVIDE THAT SERVICE THROUGHOUT THE CITY. SO I KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW THE PROCESS WORKS. AND SOME CITIES HAVE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS, BUT WITH THE WITH THE FEDERAL FUNDED PROGRAM, I WOULD TO LIKE TO SEE IT GOING INTO SOME HELPING REPAIR THE HOMES AND, YOU KNOW, TO KEEP THE NEIGHBORHOODS INTACT. I THINK THAT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT AS, AS SENIORS AGE IN PLACE AND AS YOU KNOW, FAMILIES, YOU KNOW, LARGER FAMILIES OR SMALLER FAMILIES, YOU KNOW, REQUIRE SOME OF THIS ASSISTANCE. I'M SEEING A LOT OF IT FILTERING A LOT IN GARLAND. I KNOW MCKINNEY HAS A PROGRAM AND DALLAS HAS A PROGRAM. SO I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ADOPTING SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR TO THIS TO, TO HELP WITH OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. AND CONSIDERING WE ARE SO LANDLOCKED AND WE DO HAVE A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE GOING TO REQUIRE THAT, AND WE HAVE AN AGING POPULATION, I THINK THIS IS A GOOD TIME FOR COUNCIL TO BE LOOKING AT HOW THIS IS GOING TO AFFECT THE CITY MOVING FORWARD. AND I KNOW THAT I KNOW THE STAFF AND EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE I PROVIDE A LOT OF INFORMATION, AND I DO LIKE YOUR IDEA, TOO, ON PROVIDING SOME KIND OF COMMISSIONER OR COMMITTEE OF SOME SORT TO HELP ELEVATE THAT. MY QUESTION IS, IS WITH WHEN THE PROGRAM, WHEN IT'S DEVELOPED IS DO THE RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, WITH SOME OUTREACH PROGRAMS, DO THEY SUBMIT LIKE AN APPLICATION OR IS THIS GOING TO BE BASED ON PUBLIC INFORMATION WE GET FOR HOUSEHOLD INCOME? HOW DOES THAT PROCESS WORK? YEAH. THE DATA THAT YOU COULD FIND, YOU WOULD USE FOR OUTREACH PURPOSES, BUT NOT REALLY FOR SCREENING PURPOSES, RIGHT? BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO TAKE THE THE FUNDING EVEN IF THEY QUALIFY FOR IT. SO YOU WOULD HAVE SOME KIND OF AN APPLICATION PROCESS THAT PEOPLE WOULD FILL OUT, AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO GIVE INFORMATION ABOUT THEIR INCOME AND THEIR ASSETS SO THAT YOU CAN KNOW THAT THEY ARE LOW AND MODERATE INCOME AND THEY QUALIFY FOR THE PROGRAM. AND THEN CITIES USUALLY DO IOSE CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS ABOUT THE CONDITION OF THE HOME AND THE OWNERSHIP OF THE HOME. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU HAVE A TANGLED TITLE AND YOU CAN'T SHOW THAT YOU OWN THE HOME OUTRIGHT, OR IF YOU HAVE A MORTGAGE DELINQUENCY OR THINGS LIKE THAT, SOMETIMES CITIES WILL SAY YOU'RE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR THE HOME REPAIR PROGRAM. THEY MIGHT FUNNEL YOU INTO ANOTHER PROGRAM THAT TRIES TO HELP YOU WITH THOSE ISSUES, OR YOU COULD OPERATE AN EMERGENCY HOME REPAIR PROGRAM. YOU KNOW, THE WATER HEATER GOES OUT AND WE GET SOMEBODY OUT THERE QUICKLY.

YOU'VE GOT TO BE REALLY EFFICIENT. IF YOU'RE GOING TO CALL AN EMERGENCY, YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO GET OUT THERE IN AN EMERGENCY, OR SOME CITIES WILL HAVE CAPS ABOUT EITHER WHAT

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TYPE OF REPAIRS THEY'LL MAKE OR THE FUNDING THAT THEY'LL SPEND ON A HOUSE. SO ALMOST ALL OF THAT IS A DECISION AT THE THE LOCAL LEVEL. HOW DOES JUST SAYING IT NEEDS TO BENEFIT LOW AND MODERATE INCOME PERSONS. IT NEEDS TO BE AN ELIGIBLE ACTIVITY. BUT ALL OF THE THE DETAILS OR MOST OF THE DETAILS ARE DETERMINED AT THE LOCAL LEVEL. YEAH. AND YOU JUST BROUGHT UP ANOTHER POINT TOO. IT'S A MATTER OF DO YOU NEED INSTANT REPAIR WORK THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, A CITY HAS TO MAKE DECISIONS IMMEDIATELY INSTEAD OF CREATING, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, A, YOU KNOW, AN RFQ, RFP TO FACILITATE SHEETROCK REPAIR OR PLUMBING REPAIR OR ELECTRICAL REPAIR FOR A HOME. BUT HONESTLY, IN A CITY LIKE RICHARDSON, I COULD SEE THIS HAPPENING IN ANY NEIGHBORHOOD. IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, HIGHER END NEIGHBORHOOD OR MIDDLE OR LOWER NEIGHBORHOOD, BECAUSE ALL SENIORS AND ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF FAMILIES LIVE THROUGHOUT ALL OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. SO I SEE THIS PROGRAM GOING INTO A LOT OF THAT, A LOT OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE SPECIFICALLY. SO ANYWAY, I'M JUST VERY SUPPORTIVE OF IT. I HOPE TO SEE THAT WE PUSH IT TOWARD THE RESIDENTIAL LEVEL MORE. SO THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER JUSTICE. THANK YOU. MAYOR, THERE WAS SOMETHING IN THE MEMO IN OUR PACKET ABOUT PART OF THIS PROCESS COSTING LIKE $300,000. IS THAT STEP ONE? I DIDN'T SEE IT IN THE PRESENTATION. SO WOULD THAT BE THE STEP ONE OR SO? YOU WOULD YOU WOULD EXPEND FUNDS BEFORE YOU RECEIVE THE THE FUNDING FROM HUD, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT CITIZEN PARTICIPATION PARTICIPATION PROCESS. I THINK THAT 300 K IS A VERY, VERY HIGH ESTIMATE JUST BASED ON THE COMPLEXITY OF, OF YOUR HOUSING NEEDS AND YOUR CITY'S POPULATION. YOU WOULD PUT OUT BIDS FOR SOMEONE TO DO THAT PLANNING WORK, AND THEY WOULD LIKELY COME IN UNDER 300 K. OKAY. AND BUT THAT THAT WOULD BE PROBABLY THE HIGHEST AMOUNT. IF IT'S THAT WORST CASE AND IT IS THAT HIGH AMOUNT, WOULD WE BE ABLE TO OFFSET ALL OF THAT WITH THE FUNDS OR JUST A PERCENTAGE? I THOUGHT I SAW ON THE PRESENTATION, NOT ALL OF IT BECAUSE YOU HAVE, I THINK IT'S IT'D BE ABOUT 192 THAT YOU COULD SPEND ON PROGRAM ADMINISTRATION AND PLANNING. SO SOME, IF IT WAS THE WORST CASE SCENARIO, YOU'D HAVE TO PUT SOME GENERAL FUNDS IN TO, TO DO THAT INITIAL PLANNING PROCESS. OKAY. YEAH. I MEAN, I JUST WANT TO MAKE CLEAR THERE WAS A COMMENT MADE THAT THERE IS A FINANCIAL COMMITMENT FROM THE CITY TO DO THIS FOR SURE. AND WE'RE NOT RECOUPING ALL OF THAT. SO AGAIN, NOT A REASON NOT TO DO IT. I THINK THAT IT'S GREAT. AND I CAN THINK OF A MILLION WAYS WE CAN SUPPORT ALL SORTS OF GREAT ORGANIZATIONS IN OUR CITY THAT SUPPORT SENIORS AND PEOPLE THAT ARE LOW IN LOW INCOME. IT'D BE REALLY GREAT FROM A BUDGET PERSPECTIVE TO BE ABLE TO DO THOSE THINGS. SO I THINK THAT'S GREAT, BUT WE WILL BE PUTTING MONEY INTO IT AND A TOUGH BUDGET YEAR FOR SURE. AND THEN THE OTHER PIECE I TALKED ABOUT, BUT BUT I THINK WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD IF WE'RE GOING TO LIKELY BE ABLE TO RECOUP SOME OF IT. BUT AGAIN, EYES WIDE OPEN, BY THE TIME WE GET TO STEP FOUR, WE MAY HAVE EXPENDED $300,000 AND MAY NOT GET IT BACK IF WE ULTIMATELY DECIDE NOT TO PURSUE IT. SO THERE IS A RISK THERE, AND YOU HAVE. SO YOU NEED TO START YOUR CONSOLIDATED PLANNING PROCESS EARLY 2027. BUT YOU HAVE THE REST OF THIS YEAR TO START HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH NONPROFITS, HAVING, YOU KNOW, DON LEAD HIS TEAM AND SOME EXERCISE TO FIGURE OUT, IS THIS REALLY GOING TO WORK? AND SO YOU'VE GOT THIS, THIS TIME FRAME WHERE YOU'RE NOT SPENDING MONEY OTHER THAN, THAN STAFF COSTS. SO IT WOULD BE HIRING, HIRING THAT CONSULTANT IN EARLY 2027 IS WHERE YOU'RE KIND OF MAKING THAT GO NO GO DECISION.

WELL, I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S HELPFUL TIMING FOR SURE. WE COULD DECIDE BEFORE, I GUESS WE HIRE THE CONSULTANT THEN AND DIDN'T EXPEND THE FUNDS. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. YES, COUNCILMEMBER MURPHY. THANK YOU. MR. I JUST HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. YOU KNOW THAT WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES IF SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, LMI, LOWER INCOME AREA AND, YOU KNOW, HAVING A CLEAN WATER IS IMPORTANT. SO IF WE CAN REPAIR THOSE PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, LINE TO GIVE THEM CLEAN WATER, THAT'S SOMETHING REALLY WE DON'T SEE THAT LIKE ONE ON ONE BENEFIT, BUT IT BENEFITS THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND ALSO THE SERVICE CONNECTION COULD BE THIS FUND COULD BE USED FOR THE RESTORING OR REPAIRING THE SERVICE CONNECTION FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS IN THE PRIVATE SIDE, NOT THE PUBLIC SIDE. IF INDIVIDUAL HOUSE, LOW INCOME, YOU HAVE THE WATER LINE BREAKAGE. THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. I THINK YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, SO THAT WOULD BE A THEN THAT INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNER WOULD NEED TO BE LOW AND MODERATE INCOME. IYOU WERE REPAIRING THE SERVICE, THE PRIVATE PART OF THE SERVICE CONNECTION, THE PUBLIC SIDE WOULD BE MORE BENEFITING A SPECIFIC LOW AND MODERATE INCOME AREA. I WILL LOOK INTO THAT JUST TO MAKE SURE, BUT I THINK YOU COULD FUND IT EITHER WAY. RIGHT. I THINK THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, LIKE SINCE WE HAVE A, YOU KNOW, IT'S

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PRETTY OLD NEIGHBORHOOD. I MEAN, MOST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS PRETTY OLD AND REPAIRING THOSE SERVICE CONNECTION FOR INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNERS IS VERY EXPENSIVE, ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE INCOME THAT'S CAPPED, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY MORE INCOME COMING IN, YOU KNOW, 30, $40 PER LINEAR FEET. REPLACEMENT COST IS VERY EXPENSIVE. SO THIS ONE, I THINK IT WILL BENEFIT EVEN THOUGH IT'S GONNA TAKE SOME, SOME MONEY TO START THE PROGRAM. BUT LONG TERM, I THINK THIS IS GOING TO HELP LOTS OF INDIVIDUAL, ESPECIALLY THE SENIORS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. GREAT PRESENTATION. I THINK FOR THE TIME BEING, AS FAR AS YOU'RE CONCERNED, WOULD YOU STILL LIKE AT LEAST SOME KIND OF GENERAL NOD IN THE DIRECTION OF LET'S MOVE THIS FORWARD, BUT YOU'LL COME BACK TO US WITH THE FEEDBACK? YEAH, WE'LL DO A REVIEW OF, OF ANY EXECUTIVE LEVEL FEDERAL EXECUTIVE ORDERS THAT MAYBE HAVE GOT ON OUR RADAR THROUGH OTHER GRANT MANAGEMENT OR AND DO A DEEPER DIVE WITH MAUREEN ON THIS. I CAN IF THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF SUBSTANCE THERE, I MAY JUST DO THAT THROUGH AN UPDATE IN YOUR PACKET, THROUGH A MEMO RATHER THAN A BRIEFING. BUT WE'LL WE'LL CLOSE THAT LOOP OUT BEFORE WE LAUNCH ON ANY OF THE OFFICIAL STEPS THAT WE'VE OUTLINED HERE. IS THAT OKAY? GENERALLY. OKAY, WONDERFUL. THANK YOU, MR. WAGNER. THANKS. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE ON TO

[C. PRESENT AND DISCUSS A PROPOSED APPROACH FOR A NEW UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE (UDC) AND FOR ADDRESSING PLANNING AND ZONING RELATED COUNCIL TACTICS]

ITEM C, WHICH IS TO PRESENT AND DISCUSS A PROPOSED APPROACH FOR A NEW UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, UDC, AND FOR ADDRESSING PLANNING AND ZONING RELATED COUNCIL TACTICS. MR. MAGNER, THANK YOU, MAYOR, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. EXCITED TO HAVE TINA, OUR DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, AND ANDREW BOGUT, OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, WITH US HERE. WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION EARLIER THIS YEAR IN WHICH WE DESCRIBED A PROCESS, MORE COMPREHENSIVE PROCESS FOR STARTING TO REALLY ACHIEVE A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF TACTICS OUT OF THE ENVISIONED RICHARDSON PLAN, AS WELL AS ADDRESS THE FIVE DEVELOPMENT RELATED TACTICS THAT YOU HAD ADOPTED LAST SEPTEMBER AS PART OF YOUR WORK PLAN. WHAT TINA IS GOING TO DO TODAY IS RUN THROUGH A RECOMMENDATION FOR US ADOPTING A UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE TO ACHIEVE MANY OF THOSE ITEMS. AND WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO AS WE WRAP UP HERE IS TO TO TALK THROUGH SOME OF THE VARIATIONS THAT THAT, THAT WE COULD KIND OF ADOPT TO APPROACH THIS. AND I THINK TINA IS GOING TO KIND OF KIND OF CONCLUDE WITH ALMOST A AN A LA CARTE OR A MENU KIND OF A RECOMMENDATION.

WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO IS BE ABLE TO KIND OF GO OUT AND HEAR FROM SOME OF THE CONSULTANTS THAT MIGHT WORK ON THIS PROJECT FOR US TO SEE HOW WE COULD POTENTIALLY BUILD A PLAN THAT WOULD BE MORE RESPONSIVE TO, TO BOTH THE AMOUNT OF TIME AND ENERGY YOU WANT US TO COMMIT TO THIS, AS WELL AS THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING THAT YOU'RE WILLING TO COMMIT AS WELL. AND SO TINA AND ANDREW HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB OF PUTTING THIS, THIS MENU TOGETHER. AND SO I'M REALLY CURIOUS AND ANXIOUS TO HEAR SOME OF YOUR FEEDBACK ON THAT. SO, TINA, LET ME TURN IT OVER TO YOU FOR FURTHER BRIEFING. THANK YOU DON. SO GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL, TINA FERGUSON'S DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. SO IT'S MY PLEASURE TO BE HERE THIS EVENING TO PRESENT TO YOU THIS PROPOSED APPROACH FOR NEW UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, BUT ALSO ADDRESSING YOUR VARIOUS PLANNING TACTICS. SO THIS SLIDE SHOULD LOOK VERY FAMILIAR TO YOU. SPEAKING OF THOSE TACTICS. AND SO WE ARE GOING TO FOCUS ON PARTICULARLY ITEMS TWO THROUGH FIVE IN FOCUS. OUR DISCUSSION IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA THIS EVENING. SO JUST A QUICK RECAP.

IF YOU RECALL, IT WAS BEFORE YOU BACK ON FEBRUARY 2ND AND WE HAD A DISCUSSION REGARDING OUR CITY'S CURRENT APPROACH TO HOW WE REGULATE ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT HERE WITHIN THE CITY. WE ALSO HAD A DISCUSSION RELATED TO YOUR DEVELOPMENT PRIORITIES, BUT AT THE END OF THE CONCLUSION OF THE DISCUSSION, COUNCIL WAS SUPPORTIVE OF CONSIDERING THOSE NEXT STEPS FOR MOVING FORWARD WITH ADOPTING A NEW COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE.

SO WE COMMITTED TO DOING A FOLLOW UP PRESENTATION. SO HENCE WHY I'M BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING. ALSO, FAST FORWARD A LITTLE BIT TO APRIL 27TH, WHEN MR. MAGNER GAVE A PRESENTATION OVERVIEW OF THE VARIOUS TACTICS IN THEIR STATUS. AT THAT TIME. HE PLANTED THE IDEA OR PRESENTED THE IDEA, I SHOULD SAY, TO CREATE A MODERN COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE AND SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE WITH ALL OF OUR ORDINANCES BEING WITHIN ONE CONSOLIDATED DOCUMENT. AND THAT APPROACH COULD ALLOW US TO ALSO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THE FIVE SPECIAL ENHANCEMENT AREAS. AND THEN ALSO THIS APPROACH COULD POTENTIALLY ADDRESS SOME OF THE EXISTING ENHANCEMENT REDEVELOPMENT AREAS THAT EXIST WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. SO THAT REALLY LEADS THEN TO WHERE WE ARE THIS EVENING. AND SO OUR OBJECTIVE THIS EVENING IS TO DISCUSS OUR PROPOSED APPROACH FOR THAT NEW UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, AND HOW IT ALIGNS WITH ADDRESSING YOUR TACTICS, PARTICULARLY TACTICS TWO, THREE, AND FIVE, AND THEN ALSO DISCUSSING OUR PROPOSED APPROACH FOR ADDRESSING YOUR REMAINING COUNCIL TACTIC NUMBER FOUR, AS IT RELATES TO THE EXISTING ENHANCEMENT DEVELOPMENT AREAS. SO UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, THIS IS A NEW TERM THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR ME REFERRING TO. AGAIN, MR.

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MAGNER LAID THE FOUNDATION BACK ON APRIL 27TH WHEN HE SAID THAT WE COULD HAVE A NEW CODE THAT ADDRESSES ALL OF OUR ZONING REGULATIONS, OUR SUBDIVISION AND DEVELOPMENT CODES, OUR SIGNAGE, ALL IN ONE DOCUMENT. AND SO WHEN YOU HAVE ALL OF THAT CONSOLIDATED INTO ONE DOCUMENT OR ONE CODE, THERE'S A LOT OF TIMES WE REFER TO THAT'S CONSIDERED A UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE. SO AS JOHN MENTIONED, I'M GOING TO PRESENT A TYPICAL PROCESS FOR WRITING A NEW UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE. OF COURSE, THE FULL DETAILED PROJECT PROCESS WOULD BE DETERMINED AFTER THE CONSULTANTS SELECTED, AND WE'VE NEGOTIATED A SCOPE OF WORK, AND I'LL TOUCH LATER ON, ON ON POTENTIAL A LA CARTE OPTION THAT WE CAN CONSIDER. SO WHAT I'VE DONE IS I'VE BROKEN THIS POTENTIAL PROJECT DOWN INTO SEVERAL PHASES. SO THE FIRST PHASE, WHAT I'M REFERRING TO IS PHASE ZERO. WE WOULD UTILIZE CONSULTANT ASSISTANCE. AND SO WE WOULD ANTICIPATE ISSUING AN RFQ. PART OF THE REASON FOR THIS IS JUST THE SIZE AND SCALE AND SCOPE ASSOCIATED WITH REVIEWING ALL OF OUR EXISTING DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS AND CONSOLIDATING ALL OF THAT INTO ONE DOCUMENT. IT'S VERY SIGNIFICANT UNDERTAKING FOR OUR COMMUNITY AS WELL. AND SO THE CONSULTANT WOULD TRULY BE AN EXTENSION OF MY TEAM IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO ASSIST US WITH THAT EFFORT. THEY BRING PROFESSIONAL EXPERTISE. I KNOW BACK IN FEBRUARY, THE MAYOR YOU WERE CONCERNED OF, LET'S FIND THE BEST OF THE BEST PROJECTS OR ORDINANCES THAT ARE OUT THERE AND BEING ABLE TO THEN BUILD UPON THAT. SO A CONSULTANT ASSISTANCE HELPS BRING THAT TO OUR TEAM AS WE WORK ON A PROJECT OF THIS NATURE. BUT MOVING ON, PHASE ONE IS OF THE PROJECT. WE WOULD THEN BE THE DIAGNOSTIC ASSESSMENT OF OUR EXISTING PLANS AND CODES, WHILE WE AS STAFF HAD TO HAVE A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE CHALLENGES ARE THAT WE WORK WITH TODAY AND WHERE OPPORTUNITIES LIE, IT'S GOOD TO HAVE THAT THIRD PARTY OBJECTIVE REVIEW ASSOCIATED WITH OUR DEVELOPMENT CODES AND REGULATIONS. AGAIN, LOOKING TO SEE ARE THERE AREAS WHERE WE CAN IMPROVE BEST PRACTICES? IT REALLY, AS IT RELATES TO REGULATING LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, ARE THERE ANY AREAS WHERE WE MAY HAVE SOME EXPOSURES FROM A FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT OR RECENT CHANGES IN STATE STATUTE THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE UPDATE OUR CODE AS IT RELATES TO. WE WOULD EVALUATE THAT CODE INCONSISTENCY WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE HAVE PUT FORTH WITH OUR ENVISION RICHARDSON COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BECAUSE IT'S PROVIDED THAT FOUNDATION. THERE COULD ALSO POTENTIALLY BE SOME STAKEHOLDER INTERVIEWS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROCESS. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHAT WE GET OUT OF THIS PARTICULAR PHASE IS A DIAGNOSTIC REPORT THAT'S ISSUED, AND THAT REALLY BECOMES OUR ROADMAP FOR DRAFTING THE NEW UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE. SO THE NEXT PHASE I'VE IDENTIFIED IS TO ASSESS THE FIVE SPECIAL ENHANCEMENT AREAS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE VISION. RICHARDSON. AND THIS REALLY TIES DIRECTLY WITH YOUR COUNCIL TACTIC NUMBER FIVE, WHICH IS EVALUATING THE APPROACH AND STUDYING THESE ENHANCEMENT AREAS. ONE OF THE KEY OBJECTIVES COMING OUT OF THIS WOULD BE ABLE TO CONFIRM CITY COUNCIL'S GOALS FOR EACH OF THOSE AREAS. I KNOW IN THE PAST WE'VE IDENTIFIED THE OPPORTUNITY FOR POTENTIALLY SOME OVERLAY ZONING DISTRICT REGULATIONS. IF WE DETERMINED THAT THAT WAS AN APPROPRIATE STRATEGY. BUT AGAIN, I WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT THAT COULD BE PART OF THIS PROJECT AS WE WORK THROUGH THAT. THE NEXT PHASE IS THE THIRD PHASE WHERE WE'RE ACTUALLY DRAFTING THE NEW UDC. AND THIS IS REALLY WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF HEAVY WORK THAT'S BEING DONE, BECAUSE THIS IS WHERE WE'RE WRITING THAT ORDINANCE. AS PART OF THAT EFFORT, WE'RE ALSO TESTING REGULATIONS TO SEE, OKAY, DO THOSE WORK FOR US HERE IN RICHARDSON. IF THEY DO, GREAT. IF THEY DON'T, LET'S FIGURE OUT WHERE THE PROBLEMS LIE SO THAT WE CAN BE ABLE TO CORRECT THAT. ALSO, I WOULD ANTICIPATE DURING THIS PHASE THAT WE WOULD HAVE TOUCH POINTS WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AS WELL AS CITY COUNCIL GETTING YOUR DIRECTION AND FEEDBACK ON KEY ISSUES THAT WE MIGHT HAVE IDENTIFIED THROUGH THIS PROCESS, WHERE WE'RE NEEDING YOUR DECISION TO TO HELP KEEP US MOVING FORWARD. I WOULD ANTICIPATE THERE COULD POTENTIALLY BE SOME PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PHASE. WE WOULD CUSTOMIZE THIS APPROPRIATELY TO MEET THE NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY SINCE THIS UDC IS A VERY TECHNICAL DOCUMENT, AND SOMETIMES PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND THE TECHNICAL NATURE OF THE ZONING REGULATIONS THAT WE DEAL WITH, BUT ALSO THE SUBDIVISION DEVELOPMENT CODES AND SIGN CODE PROVISIONS. AND OF COURSE, BECAUSE IT IS ZONING, IT DOES INVOLVE PUBLIC HEARINGS, WHICH IS THE FOURTH PHASE, THE ADOPTION PHASE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS, WHERE WE WOULD HAVE PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION AS WELL AS CITY COUNCIL ANYTIME WE ADOPT ANY ZONING CHANGES. AND THAT INCLUDES TEXT AMENDMENTS TO OUR COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE, OR IN THIS CASE, A UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE. SO OTHER CONSIDERATIONS TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION TO FACTOR AS IT RELATES TO THIS PROJECT. FIRST AND FOREMOST IS TIME. I'D LOVE TO TELL YOU THAT THIS IS A MUCH SHORTER PROJECT OR TIME HORIZON, BUT UNFORTUNATELY IT'S NOT. ON AVERAGE, IT TAKES COMMUNITIES APPROXIMATELY TWO YEARS, TWO YEARS IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO ADOPT A NEW UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE. SO THE CHALLENGE BECOMES STAYING COMMITTED TO THE PROJECT. THE PROJECT WILL HAVE TIMES WHERE IT'S CHALLENGING. IT'LL BE VERY INTERESTING. IT COULD HAVE FUN ELEMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH AS WELL AS WE WORK THROUGH IT, BUT IT WILL BE A CHALLENGING PROJECT. AND NONETHELESS, IT'S IT'S IMPORTANT TO STAY COMMITTED TO THAT AS WE WORK THROUGH THOSE CHALLENGES AND OPPORTUNITIES RELATED TO THE CODE. AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE WOULD ANTICIPATE NEEDING HAVING ADDITIONAL RESOURCE RESOURCES.

A COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH TO THIS PROJECT REQUIRES CONSULTANT SUPPORT. THE THE CONSULTANT SUPPORT REALLY AUGMENTS OUR CURRENT TEAM, SO OUR TEAM NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO BE FOCUSED ON OUR OTHER DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS, ASSISTING THE COMMUNITY APPLICANTS AS THEY. AS WE WORK THROUGH HAVING DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS THAT ARE STILL

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OCCURRING WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY. BUT AGAIN, THEY BRING THOSE EXPERTISE, THOSE BEST PRACTICES TO OUR TEAM, ASSIST US WITH MANAGING THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, BECAUSE THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT COMPONENT RELATED TO THIS, AS WELL AS THE CODE DRAFTING. OF COURSE, WE'D HAVE BE WORKING IN TANDEM WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, WITH THE LEGAL REVIEWS, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE STAYING CONSISTENT WITH STATE STATUTES OR ANY CASE LAW THAT THAT WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO BE AWARE OF.

AND ON THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, I WOULD ANTICIPATE THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT FOR THIS TYPE OF PROJECT WOULD BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE DID ON ENVISION RICHARDSON, ESPECIALLY FROM A STANDPOINT, AGAIN, THAT THIS IS A TECHNICAL DOCUMENT. SO WE WOULD BE ASKING THE PUBLIC, DOES THIS PROPOSE UNIFIED, UNIFIED, EXCUSE ME, UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE ALIGN WITH THE VISION AND THE GOALS THAT ARE SET FORTH AND THE ACTION ITEMS THAT WE PUT FORTH IN THE ENVISION RICHARDSON COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND LASTLY, YOU'LL SEE THE BUDGET RELATED TO THIS, WE ANTICIPATE TO BE APPROXIMATELY 900,000 TO $1.1 MILLION ASSOCIATED WITH IT. THE REASON FOR THE LARGE PRICE TAG ASSOCIATED WITH THIS IS PROCESS DRIVES BUDGET. WITH THESE KIND OF PROJECTS. AND FIRST AND FOREMOST, THE NUMBER OF TOUCH POINTS THAT WE HAVE WITH THE COMMUNITY, THE NUMBER OF TIMES THAT WE MEET WITH COUNCIL, THE PLANNING COMMISSION, ANY OTHER BOARDS OR COMMISSIONS THAT WE MIGHT BE INVOLVED IN MEETING ON THIS PROJECT, JUST THE OVERALL SIZE AND SCALE ASSOCIATED WITH GATHERING ALL OF OUR ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS OR SIGN CODE AND BE ABLE TO WORK THROUGH THE VOLUME OF DOCUMENTS THAT WE HAVE THERE, MAKING SURE THAT AS WE ARE WRITING NEW, NEW DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, THEY ARE WORKING IN TANDEM WITH EACH OTHER AND NOT CONFLICTING WITH EACH OTHER. ALSO, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT ASPECT IS AS WELL. SO BECAUSE OF THE MULTIFACETED ASPECTS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROJECT, HENCE THE LARGER PRICE TAG THAT COMES ALONG WITH IT AND THE CONSULTANT ASSISTANCE.

OF COURSE, WE COULD ALSO LOOK AT FUNDING THIS OVER MULTIPLE FISCAL YEARS IF WE NEEDED TO AS WELL. SO WHAT WE ACCOMPLISH, IF WE DECIDE TO SAY YES TO THIS PROJECT, WE BEGIN WORKING ON IMPLEMENTING IMPLEMENTING THE ENVISION RICHARDSON COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY 18 ACTION ITEMS THAT ARE CENTERED AROUND BEING ABLE TO ADVANCE OR ADDRESS HOW WE DO DEVELOPMENT HERE WITHIN OUR CITY. OUT OF THOSE 18 ITEMS, 11 OF THEM ARE A HIGH PRIORITY ITEMS. THE ONE WAY TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS MULTIPLE HIGH PRIORITIES AT ONE TIME IS TO DO A PROJECT THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO ADDRESS MANY OF THOSE ASPECTS. BEFORE THE MEETING, I CIRCULATED TO YOU A HANDOUT THAT IDENTIFIES THOSE HIGH PRIORITY AND MEDIUM PRIORITY ACTION ITEMS. I COUNTED THROUGH THEM EARLIER TODAY. I BELIEVE ABOUT 5 TO 7 OF THEM ACTUALLY MAKE REFERENCE TO EITHER ZONING OR REQUIREMENTS OR REGULATIONS WITHIN THEM. SO HENCE WHY THIS PROPOSED UDC COULD ASSIST US IN BEING ABLE TO ADDRESS THOSE ITEMS. ALSO, A NEW UDC WOULD ASSIST US WITH ADDRESSING YOUR COUNCIL TACTICS THAT I SHARED WITH YOU ON THAT FIRST SLIDE.

THOSE ITEMS TWO THROUGH FIVE. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, I WOULD EXPECT THAT WE WOULD COME OUT OF THIS WITH AN ORDINANCE THAT ALIGNS WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IS ABLE TO MEET THE NEEDS OF A MORE MODERN ERA. WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT OUR CURRENT COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE, ORIGINALLY BEING WRITTEN IN 1956, THIS NEW ORDINANCE WOULD BE ABLE TO HELP ADVANCE US, ADVANCE US FOR THE DECADES OF THE FUTURE. ALSO, IT WOULD BE ABLE TO ASSIST US WITH OUR REDEVELOPMENT AND ADAPTIVE ADAPTIVE REUSE OBJECTIVES AND OUR NEW DEVELOPMENT PRIORITIES THAT WE HAVE WITH THE COMMUNITY, AS WELL AS ADDRESSING THE RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCY CONCERNS.

AND I KNOW THAT WAS A CONCERN THAT WAS EXPRESSED BACK WHEN WE MET IN FEBRUARY. OF COURSE, THE ALTERNATE OPTION IS IF WE WERE TO SAY NO TO THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, THEN HERE'S I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT COUNCIL UNDERSTANDS WHAT THE COMMUNITY AND YOU ALL WILL BE CONTINUE TO BE CHALLENGED WITH. FIRST AND FOREMOST, IT'S THE ENVISION RICHARDSON IMPLEMENTATION WOULD BE DELAYED, THUS REQUIRING THE CITY TO REPRIORITIZE ITS HIGH PRIORITY ACTIONS AND TAKING A LONGER TERM PHASED APPROACH TO IMPLEMENTATION, SUCH AS IMPLEMENTING, YOU KNOW, 2 OR 3 ACTION ITEMS PER YEAR AS WE WORKED ON THIS. THIS WOULD ALSO AFFECT THE FIVE ENHANCEMENT AREAS NOT ALLOWING US TO ADVANCE OUR REDEVELOPMENT ADAPTIVE REUSE INITIATIVES THAT WE HAVE WITHIN THE AREAS OR IDENTIFIED WITHIN THE PLAN. ADDITIONALLY, IT WOULD AFFECT US BEING ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH YOUR TACTICS THAT YOU'VE LAID OUT BEFORE US. SO THOSE WOULD BE DELAYED AND WE WOULD LIKELY NEED TO PRIORITIZE THE THE INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL TACTICS TO FOCUS THE STAFF RESOURCES ACCORDINGLY. OF COURSE, WHEN WE DO PROJECTS INDIVIDUALLY AND NOT BUNDLING THEM, WE FIND THAT WE HAVE AN INCREASE IN COSTS. AND THIS IS JUST BECAUSE WE LOSE ECONOMIES OF SCALE WHEN WE'RE WORKING ON PROJECTS OF THIS NATURE, WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, AND THAT FACTORS IN TIME OVERALL PROJECT MANAGEMENT, THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE BENEFIT FROM WHEN WE ATTACK, WHEN WE ARE ABLE TO TACKLE MULTIPLE ITEMS TOGETHER INSTEAD OF DOING PROJECTS INDIVIDUALLY. ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO OFFER AS A COMPARISON, I THOUGHT THIS WAS KIND OF SOME INTERESTING DATA. SO WE LOOKED BACK AT THE CONTRACTS THAT WERE DONE ON WEST SPRING VALLEY, MAIN STREET CENTRAL, BOTH BOTH PHASES OF ZONING ENTITLEMENT, AS WELL AS THE COLLINS ARAPAHO REZONING EFFORTS. SO OVER TEN YEARS, THE CITY COLLECTIVELY SPENT APPROXIMATELY $1.1 MILLION. SO THOSE PROJECTS WERE FOCUSED ON SPECIFIC TARGETED AREAS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. SO I OFFER THIS AS A COMPARISON BECAUSE THE MONIES THAT WERE SPENT WITHIN THESE THREE PROJECT SPECIFIC AREAS FOR A SIMILAR AMOUNT OF MONEY, WE COULD WRITE A NEW UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE THAT WOULD ACTUALLY APPLY CITYWIDE.

WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE 28MIā– S WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY. LASTLY, THAT REMAINING CITY COUNCIL

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TACTIC. SO A NEW UDC COULD ALSO ASSIST US WITH ADDRESSING YOUR COUNCIL TACTIC NUMBER FOUR, PARTICULARLY IF WE'RE ADDRESSING TWEAKS ASSOCIATED WITH THE EXISTING ENHANCEMENT REDEVELOPMENT AREAS. AND SO THIS IS WHY WE WERE PROPOSING TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL LATER THIS FALL AND HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH YOU WHERE WE WOULD SHARE THE OVERALL VISIONS THAT WERE ESTABLISHED WITH EACH OF THESE THREE PROJECT AREAS. SOME OF THESE PROJECT AREAS ALSO HAVE FURTHER SUB DISTRICTS WITHIN THEM INTO BEING ABLE TO REVIEW THAT WITH COUNCIL. ALSO SHARE WITH YOU THE LAND USES THAT HAVE BEEN ENTITLED IN THOSE AREAS, AND THEN BEING ABLE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION TO RECONCILE ANY OUTSTANDING DIFFERENCES IN UNDERSTANDING AMONGST THE COUNCIL AS IT RELATES TO THAT. AND AGAIN, THAT TIES BACK TO ONE OF YOUR COUNCIL TACTICS. COUNCIL TACTIC NUMBER FOUR, IF COUNCIL DESIRES CERTAIN TWEAKS BEING MADE TO THOSE AREAS, THAT COULD BE INCLUDED IN THE NEW UDC, FOCUSING ON THOSE SMALLER AREAS AND HAVING OTHER AMENDMENTS TO BRING CONSISTENCY AND LANGUAGE AND ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESSES THROUGHOUT THE UDC. OF COURSE, IF YOU WERE WANTING TO HAVE A MUCH DEEPER DIVE CONVERSATION AND REEVALUATING THE VISION AND ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS THAT WERE ESTABLISHED IN THOSE THREE EXISTING AREAS, THEN THAT WOULD BE A SEPARATE PROJECT THAT WE WOULD UNDERTAKE AFTER WE DO A UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE. IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION THAT YOU GIVE US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH. SO JUST TO WRAP UP MY PRESENTATION, SO OUR STAFF RECOMMENDATION MOVING FORWARD, THE FIRST ITEM IS TO ISSUE AN RFQ AND NEGOTIATE THE SCOPE OF SERVICES FOR CREATING A NEW UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE. AND AS DON ALLUDED TO IN HIS OPENING REMARKS, WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS SELECT A CONSULTANT AND THEN WE COULD BRING BACK TO CITY COUNCIL THE POTENTIAL NEGOTIATED SCOPE OF WORK THAT HAS SEVERAL A LA CARTE OPTIONS. AND WE COULD EVALUATE, YOU KNOW, DO WE JUST DO ZONING? DO WE DO SUBDIVISION DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS IS A COMBINATION. DO WE FACTOR IN THE SIGNAGE? WHAT LEVELS OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT MIGHT WE UNDERTAKE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROJECT OR A COMBINATION THEREOF? BUT I THINK IT COULD GIVE YOU A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF SOME MORE FIRM COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROJECT. AND I THINK YOU WOULD ALSO SEE SOME OF THE ECONOMIES OF SCALE THAT WE MIGHT GAIN ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, BUT NONETHELESS, WE COULD BRING THAT TO YOU LATER THIS YEAR. WE WOULD EXPECT THE PROJECT WOULD BE FUNDED THROUGH SPECIAL PROJECT RESERVES. THAT WOULD BE THAT COULD OCCUR OVER THE NEXT 2 TO 3 BUDGET YEARS. SO IT'S NOT JUST A ONE TIME SIGNIFICANT DRAW DOWN ON FUNDING ASSOCIATED WITH IT. AND THEN OUR SECOND RECOMMENDATION TO YOU WOULD BE THAT WE PRESENT THAT OVERVIEW OF OF THE THREE EXISTING ENHANCEMENT REDEVELOPMENT AREAS AND RECONCILE ANY OUTSTANDING DIFFERENCES THAT YOU HAVE AS IT RELATES TO THOSE AREAS. AND AGAIN, WE WOULD BRING THAT THIS FALL FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. SO THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL. COUNCILMAN BARRIOS. THANK YOU. MAYOR DINA, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. I, I KNOW IT'S AN INVESTMENT FROM THE CITY, BUT I THINK IT'S ONE THAT IN THE LONG RUN IS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT MANY FRONTS. SO I FULLY SUPPORT THIS. I DO URGE THIS AND FUTURE COUNCILS, AS WE LOOK AT THIS, TO DEVELOP SOME KIND OF LIKE A CITIZEN ADVISORY COMMITTEE, A QUICK SEARCH OF THE INTERNET WHILE YOU'RE TALKING SHOWED THAT SEVERAL CITIES AROUND US ARE KIND OF IN THIS PROCESS AND HAVE SUCH ADVISORY COMMITTEES.

ANYTIME, YOU KNOW, TO GO THROUGH SUCH A LENGTHY PROCESS THAT WILL POTENTIALLY AFFECT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES FOR DECADES TO COME, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO GET CITIZEN FEEDBACK AND DEVELOPMENT ENTIRE, ENTIRE, THE ENTIRE PROCESS. SO WHILE IT'S TECHNICAL, GOOD THING WE LIVE IN RICHARDSON, TEXAS, WHERE WE HAVE A LOT OF RETIRED ENGINEERS, A LOT OF ENGINEERS, AND WE ARE A CITY BUILT ON BRAINS, I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT WE HAVE A GOOD POOL OF CITIZENS TO FIND, TO, TO PULL FROM FOR, FOR A SOLID CITIZEN ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. COULD YOU I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THAT HOW LONG THE PROCESS WILL TAKE. COULD YOU REPEAT THAT OR JUST CLARIFY THAT AGAIN, APPROXIMATELY TWO YEARS, 24 MONTHS, 24 MONTHS, AND HOW THAT WILL TAKE CARE.

LIKE THREE BUDGET CYCLE. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAYBE TWO BUDGETS, DEPENDING ON THE TIMING. IT DEPENDS ON THE TIMING. AND AGAIN, SO WE'RE NOT PROPOSING THAT TO LOAD THIS INTO THE OPERATING BUDGET. WE'RE PROPOSING TO USE RESERVES PRIOR YEAR SAVINGS TO FUND THIS. AND WE OFTEN DO THAT. THAT'S HOW WE FUNDED THE COMP PLAN, THE ENVISION RICHARDSON COMP PLAN.

AND SO THIS WOULD JUST BE BRIDGING IT OVER. YOU'RE PROBABLY TALKING JUST A COUPLE OF MONTHS OF FY 26. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, MOST OF FY 27 INTO FY, THE START OF FY 28. THAT'S WHY IT'S KIND OF BRIDGE LIKE THAT. NO THAT'S GREAT. I THINK THIS IS I MEAN AS PRESENTED THAT THIS IS IMPORTANT TO MAKE THINGS VERY EFFICIENT. I AGREE THIS WILL, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN BRING EVERYTHING IN ONE PLACE AND UPDATE THAT WILL SIMPLIFY THE PROCESS. AND ALSO, I DO UNDERSTAND THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT THIS IS VERY TECHNICAL. AND, YOU KNOW, I KNOW IN THE

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PAST WE COMMUNICATE WITH THE COMMUNICATED WITH THE COMMUNITY DURING THE PROCESS THROUGH THE CONSULTANT. AND BECAUSE OF THIS, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, BECAUSE OF TECHNICAL TECHNICALITY OF THESE THINGS, I WOULD SUPPORT THAT HAVING CITIZEN STEERING COMMITTEE WITH THAT CONSULTANT SO THAT THEY CAN COMMUNICATE WITH THE COMMUNICATE COMMUNITY MORE, YOU KNOW, EFFECTIVELY, MORE ACTIVELY. I THINK I SUPPORT THAT. BUT YEAH, YOU KNOW, OTHERWISE I SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS HAS ALL THE BENEFIT OF MOVING FORWARD. YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT, I JUST WANT TO SHARE, MAYBE ASK FOR CLARIFICATION. SO YOU HAVE NINE PEOPLE THAT SERVE ON THE CPC AND YOU HAVE, I THINK, SEVEN PEOPLE THAT SERVE ON A SIGN CONTROL BOARD. ARE YOU SAYING THAT YOU WANT TO CREATE A COMMITTEE SEPARATE FROM THEM TO BE INVOLVED, BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BOTH THAT 16 CITIZENS THAT ARE GOING TO BE INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS? YES. LET ME CLARIFY THAT WHY I'M SAYING THAT, AND BECAUSE I DO UNDERSTAND THAT IN THE PAST, THE SAME PROCESS HAD GONE THROUGH, THAT CONSULTANT HAS COMMUNICATED WITH THE COMMUNITY, GOT THE FEEDBACK, WENT BACK TO THE CPC, CAME BACK, THEN CAME TO COUNCIL EVENTUALLY. RIGHT. AND WE DID GET INVOLVED DURING THIS PROCESS. BUT IF WE HAVE A STEERING COMMITTEE, I THINK THAT WOULD REALLY THERE WOULD BE WORKING MORE CLOSELY WITH THE CONSULTANT, YOU KNOW, EVERY STEP MAYBE LIKE. SO ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT IN LIEU OF. THAT'S WHAT MY SUGGESTION THAT I'M NOT I HAVEN'T ASKED THAT QUESTION. ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT IN LIEU OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT. NO, NO. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE CPC, THE CONTROL BOARD AND ADVISORY COMMISSION, AND THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT STEERING COMMITTEE. AND THEN, YES, THAT WILL I THINK, THE WHOLE PROCESS THAT WILL GO THROUGH THAT. I THINK WITH THAT THING, I THINK THIS WOULD BE MORE EFFICIENT.

THAT'S MY OPINION, YES, COUNCILMAN BARRIOS? YEAH, TO TO ANSWER DON'S QUESTION, I DO. I AM SUGGESTING A COMMITTEE COMPLETELY SEPARATE THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT. ASIDE FROM THAT, I WOULD ASSUME IT'S SOMETHING LIKE SOME KIND OF FEEDBACK SESSION. I KNOW IN THE PAST WHEN WE WERE GOING THROUGH ENVISION RICHARDSON, YOU KNOW, WE SET UP LIKE THE HEIGHTS, YOU KNOW, AREA AND PEOPLE CAME IN AND PROVIDED SOME FEEDBACK. I THINK WE DID THAT. HUFFINES AND HEIGHTS REC CENTERS, I THINK SOMETHING LIKE THAT ON THE TAIL END OF IT, JUST TO DOUBLE CHECK THAT WE DIDN'T MAKE AND TO KIND OF PROVIDE THAT, I GUESS, PUBLIC INFORMATION PIECE OF IT.

BUT I THINK HAVING A, AN ADVISORY COMMISSION COMMITTEE, WHATEVER IT ENDS UP GETTING CALLED, I THINK IS, IS IMPORTANT. SO TO RESPOND TO YOUR THAT'S JUST RESPONSE TO YOUR QUESTION. MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHENRIDER YEAH, I'M GOING TO DISAGREE. I THINK WE ALREADY HAVE THE CPC. I THINK WE HAVE THE SIGN CONTROL BOARD. THOSE COMMITTEES ARE SPECIFICALLY SET UP TO DEAL WITH WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH WITH THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT THAT THAT WE'VE ALWAYS DONE. I DON'T SEE THE NEED AND THE I DON'T I DON'T SEE THE NEED FOR THAT ADDITIONAL COMMITTEE. I DON'T UNDERSTAND I DON'T KNOW WHY WE WOULD SET THAT UP THAT WAY. SO I'LL, I WOULD I WOULD DISAGREE WITH WITH THAT THOUGHT. SO I'LL JUST WEIGH IN A COUPLE, A COUPLE THOUGHTS. I'M I'M ALWAYS HESITANT ON THE CONSULTING ENGAGEMENTS, ESPECIALLY OF THE SIZE AND SCALE. AND I SUSPECT MAYBE THE OVERALL BUDGET THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE COULD POTENTIALLY BE MAYBE MULTIPLE CONSULTANTS, I DON'T KNOW, FOR DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE PROJECT OR, OR PERHAPS IT'S JUST ONE OVER OVERARCHING ONE, BUT I, I'M HESITANT TO GET SUPER EXCITED ABOUT A CONSULTING ENGAGEMENT OF THAT SIZE, PARTLY BECAUSE I'M, I HAVEN'T NECESSARILY BEEN JUST SUPER BLOWN AWAY BY WHAT WE HAVE HAD FROM CONSULTANTS IN THE PAST.

AND I, I'D WANT TO MAYBE AT LEAST UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT MORE JUST WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO DIFFERENTLY THIS GO ROUND IN A CONSULTANT SELECTION THAT WOULD HELP US MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PICKING SOMEONE WHO'S ACTUALLY GOING TO DO SOMETHING THAT, THAT IT'S GOING TO MOVE THE NEEDLE FOR OUR CITY. AND JUST AS I WAS SAYING, WHAT'S THE BEST OF THE BEST? I'D LOVE TO KIND OF MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALSO DOING THAT ON THE CONSULTANT SIDE. SO THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF COMMENT NUMBER ONE. AND I DON'T EXACTLY KNOW OR FEEL LIKE THERE'S AN EXACT RESPONSE TO THAT OTHER THAN JUST SOMETHING I'D LIKE TO KIND OF UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT MORE PERHAPS IN THE FUTURE. SEPARATELY ON THIS ADVISORY COMMITTEE QUESTION, THE I DID A

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QUICK SEARCH AS WELL. AND COUNCILMAN BARRIOS, POINT, THERE'S A NUMBER OF CITIES THAT ARE DOING IT BIGGER CITIES THAN OURS, CITIES THAT DON'T HAVE QUITE AS MANY DECADES BEFORE A REWRITE. AND YET THEY ALSO DECIDED TO PICK UP A NEW ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR THIS PARTICULAR TASK. AND THEY'RE THEY'RE ALL CITIES THAT I THINK ARE PROBABLY DOING IT PRETTY WELL. AND THE CALIBER OF PEOPLE THAT THEY'VE GOT ON THAT PARTICULAR ADVISORY COMMITTEE, ALTHOUGH THEY HAVE AMAZING PEOPLE ON THEIR CPCS AND OTHER BOARDS, I'M SURE THOSE ADVISORY COMMITTEES SEEM TO BE LOADED UP WITH PRETTY TALENTED PEOPLE. AND I KNOW WE HAVE A NUMBER OF TALENTED PEOPLE ON OUR SIDELINES THAT WE COULD PULL ON TO HELP US WITH THIS, AND PERHAPS TO BE MORE VOICES IN THE CONVERSATION. SO I DON'T THINK WE NECESSARILY HAVE TO MAKE THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE DECISION RIGHT THIS MINUTE. BUT BUT THAT'S THAT'S WHERE I FEEL ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE AS WELL. YEAH. LET ME RESPOND TO THE TO THE FIRST QUESTION. SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE THE I THINK THE GOOD. THING ABOUT THE STRATEGY THAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO YOU IS THAT THIS COUNCIL WOULD HAVE MORE SAY IN THE RFQ PROCESS. OBVIOUSLY, WE WOULD HAVE TO BRING YOU BACK AGAIN, A MENU OF OPTIONS. TINA HAS OUTLINED SEVERAL VARIATIONS.

THERE ARE MORE VARIATIONS ON HOW WE COULD APPROACH THIS. SO WE WOULD HAVE SEVERAL OPTIONS, AND YOU WOULD GET TO SEE HOW DIFFERENT CONSULTANTS PROPOSED APPROACHING THOSE THINGS. AND SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE COUNCIL WOULD HAVE MORE INPUT AND MORE SAY AROUND AROUND THE CONSULTING. LET ME LET ME GO BACK TO THE QUESTION I ASKED COUNCILMAN. AND I'M I'M NOT I'M NOT DISAGREEING NECESSARILY WITH THE ADVISORY COUNCIL. I'M JUST SAYING WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS YOU'RE ADDING A WHOLE NOTHER LAYER OF ENGAGEMENT FROM THE CONSULTANT THAT IS GOING TO IMPACT THE BOTTOM LINE. AND SO MY CLARIFICATION I WAS ASKING WAS, IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS ADVISORY COMMITTEE, ARE YOU GOING TO BE OKAY REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT? I HEARD COUNCILMAN BARRIO SAY, YES, I JUST WANT TO SAY, IF YOU BRING IN IF YOU BRING IF COUNCILMEMBER, WHAT YOU SAID WAS YOU WERE OKAY, LETTING THE ADVISORY COMMISSION DO WHAT THEY WERE GOING TO DO. AND THEN AT THE END HAVE AN OPEN HOUSE. IF THAT'S WHEN WE FIND OUT THAT THE COMMUNITY ISN'T ALIGNED WITH WHAT WE'VE DONE. THAT'S, IN MY OPINION, TOO LATE. AND SO I'M TRYING TO TRIANGULATE AMONGST YOU. ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME LEVEL OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WE'VE HAD, WHICH HAS BEEN TRADITIONALLY ON AN ENVISION RICHARDSON IN ALL THREE OF THE STUDIES THAT THAT TINA MENTIONED, PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT MEETINGS THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS IN ADDITION TO THE ADVISORY COMMISSION, BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO BE A DIFFERENT COST, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERATION. THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER LEVEL OF ENGAGEMENT FROM THE CONSULTANTS WITH WITH THE ADVISORY COMMISSION. SO I'M THE CLARIFICATION I'M ASKING FOR IS IF WE'RE GOING TO DO AN ADVISORY COMMISSION, ARE YOU WILLING TO REDUCE THE ENGAGEMENT WITH THE PUBLIC IN THE TRADITIONAL WAY THAT WE HAVE PERFORMED, THAT THROUGH THESE OTHER STUDIES? YOU KNOW, AND I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT CLARIFICATION BECAUSE I THINK THE COMMUNITY IS ACCUSTOMED TO THAT TYPE OF ENGAGEMENT. COUNCILMAN MORRIS OKAY, I SEE THE CLARIFICATION IN WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ASK. I THINK IT'S GOING TO COME BACK TO. I DON'T I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, IT'S HARD TO CALL SOMETHING A REDUCTION WHEN WE DON'T KNOW THE STARTING POINT. SO ARE YOU SAYING, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S HARD TO TELL WITHOUT EVEN BEGINNING THAT PROCESS WITH THE CONSULTANT? FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU'RE SAYING, LOOK, WE'RE GOING TO DO SIX ENGAGEMENT SESSIONS, BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REDUCE THAT TO TWO IF WE CREATE A COMMISSION, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A VALUE TRADE OFF AND A COST ASSOCIATED WITH IT, THEN THAT'S, I THINK, THE VALUE PROPOSITION THIS OR THE NEXT COUNCIL HAVE TO MAKE, DEPENDING ON WHAT THAT TIMING IS. BUT TO SAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO REDUCE IT WHEN WE DON'T KNOW A STARTING POINT IS A IS TOUGH. UNDERSTAND? I THINK THERE'S GOING TO THERE'S A. I GUESS, HAPPY MEDIUM SOMEWHERE IN THERE WHAT THE NUMBER IS. I MEAN, I DON'T HAVE THAT ANSWER BECAUSE I DON'T I DON'T SEE, YOU KNOW, BREAKOUT COSTS RIGHT NOW. BUT I DO THINK THAT OTHER CITIES HAVE FIGURED OUT WAYS TO DO IT. AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO AFFECT OUR COMMUNITY FOR DECADES TO COME, SHOULD ABSOLUTELY HAVE RESIDENT INPUT OTHER THAN EVERY STEP OF THE WAY OUTSIDE OF OUR REGULAR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. OTHER CITIES HAVE FIGURED TO DO IT.

I'M SURE WE CAN FIGURE OUT A WAY TO DO IT. CAN I, COUNCILMAN, LET ME JUST THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WELL, THIS IS YOU KNOW, THIS IS DIFFERENT THAN EXACTLY WHAT WE HAVE ON THE ENVISION RICHARDSON OR OTHER THINGS THAT WE HAVE DONE. I WOULD NOT REDUCE THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THAT WE HAVE, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE EXACTLY THE SAME. COPY AND PASTE WHAT WE HAVE

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DONE IN THE PAST FOR THE OTHER PROCESS. SO OF COURSE, WE'RE GOING TO BRING THE COMMUNITY BACK. BUT WHEN THIS IS MORE TECHNICAL AND MORE IMPORTANT THAT THOSE WHATEVER IT COMES RECOMMENDATION WISE, THEN ALL THE DOTS ARE CONNECTED. WHEN YOU HAVE THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, THAT'S NOT GOING TO COME BACK. THOSE CONNECTING DOTS BETWEEN THE CODE AND OTHER THINGS ONE CONFLICTING OTHERS, NOT ALL THE THINGS ARE GOING TO COME BACK. SO IF YOU HAVE A TECHNICAL TEAM WORK WITH YOU BESIDES THE CONSULTANT WHO'S GOING TO SEE MORE CLOSELY WITH THE CONSULTANT AND THEN GO BACK TO THE COMMUNITY AND THEN COME BACK TO CPC AND THEN PRESENT.

THESE ARE ALL FORMALITY THAT'S GOING THROUGH. AND I THINK THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MUCH CLEANER, BETTER PRODUCT THAN THAN ANY OTHER THING. SO BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO BE REALLY MORE, YOU KNOW, AFFECTING US MANY MORE YEARS GOING FORWARD. AND IT WILL SIMPLIFY LOTS OF PROCESS THAT IT COMES TO THE COUNCIL. WE DON'T HAVE TO SEE MANY THINGS THAT COMES TO THE COUNCIL. HOPEFULLY, HOPEFULLY IT'S GOING TO BE ALL AUTOMATED. MOST OF THE THINGS IS GOING TO BE SIMPLIFIED AND DEVELOPER CAN COME AND DO THINGS MUCH MORE EASIER. I THINK THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING AT. SO MAKING LIFE EASY, BUT STILL NOT SACRIFICING THE BENEFIT OF ALL THE THINGS THAT WE COULD HAVE. SO I THINK THIS IS THIS IS ANOTHER LAYER I DO UNDERSTAND, BUT I DO FEEL THAT THIS IS GOING TO HELP US MOVING FORWARD. THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM DON, TO SPECIFIC ANSWER. I, I DON'T WANT TO TRADE. I WANT ALL THE COMMUNITY AND PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT WE HAD, LIKE WE DID FOR ENVISION RICHARDSON. I HEARD A LOT OF PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT WERE VERY, VERY POSITIVE. BY HAVING AS MUCH ENGAGEMENT AS WE HAD. SO AGAIN, I DON'T MEAN TO PUT THIS IN THE HANDS OF I DON'T KNOW WHAT EVEN NUMBER ANYBODY'S THINKING ABOUT DOWN AT THE OTHER END OF THE DAIS, BUT SIX, EIGHT PEOPLENOW I WANT I WANT THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES I MEAN, WE HEARD SOMEONE TONIGHT. I DON'T RIGHT, WRONG OR INDIFFERENT. I'M NOT SAYING I'M NOT COMMENTING ON THAT, OBVIOUSLY, BECAUSE I CAN'T, BUT I'M JUST SIMPLY SAYING I WANT ALL THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT THAT WE CAN POSSIBLY GET. SO I'M I'M NOT WILLING TO TRADE OUT, YOU KNOW, AND REDUCE THE NUMBER, THE AMOUNT OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.

BUT I AM I'M VERY CONCERNED BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALREADY HEARD, YOU KNOW, 300,000 THAT IF FOR WHATEVER REASON, A, A THERE'S SOME TYPE OF EXECUTIVE ORDER THAT COMES THROUGH THAT WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, THAT COULD BE THAT'S A NEW EXPENSE. I MEAN, WE'RE JUST, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT TO BE VERY, VERY CONSCIOUS GOING INTO THIS NEXT BUDGET CYCLE FROM A, FROM A, FROM A, FROM A FINANCIAL STANDPOINT, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE SAYING $300,000 THERE AND YES, WE'RE GOING TO GET SOME OF THAT BACK. BUT IF I DID MY MATH RIGHT, IT'S ONLY GOING TO BE ABOUT HALF. SO THAT'S ABOUT 150,000 NEW EXPENSE. NOT OPPOSED TO THAT AT ALL. BUT, YOU KNOW, THEN WE'RE GOING TO SPEND IF WE'RE SAYING 1.1 MILLION. BUT IF WE IF WE'VE GOT TO DO IF WE'RE GOING TO DO MORE, ETC. ETC. THAT THAT JUMPS UP TO 1.5, 1.6 MILLION, WHATEVER THE CASE MIGHT BE. I MEAN, I JUST I DON'T I DON'T UNDERSTAND, WE'VE GOT A CPC, WE'VE GOT A SIGN BOARD. WE'VE, WE'VE VETTED THOSE PEOPLE. WE'VE ASKED THEM TO, TO DO THIS TYPE OF WORK. BUT I WANT I WANT ALL THE, YOU KNOW, I VERY MUCH WANT THE TRANSPARENCY, WHICH I THINK I THOUGHT IN THE PAST WE'VE WE'VE ALL BEEN VERY UNIFIED ON THAT.

AND ALL OF A SUDDEN NOW IT'S LIKE, WELL, WE'RE GOING TO HAND THIS OFF TO SIX SPECIAL PEOPLE OR EIGHT SPECIAL PEOPLE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT NUMBER OF PEOPLE. I WON'T SAY A NUMBER BECAUSE NO ONE ELSE HAD A NUMBER. BUT YOU KNOW THAT. AND HOW DO WE EVEN DEFINE THAT? I MEAN, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO COME IN WITH THEIR BIASES. ET CETERA. ET CETERA. VERSUS IF WE HAVE THE COMPLETE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST, TO ME, THAT'S SO MUCH MORE IMPORTANT THAN HAVING SOME SMALL BODY WORK ON IT, YOU KNOW, BEHIND THE SCENES. ET CETERA.

ET CETERA. THAT THAT'S BEEN AT LEAST WHAT I'VE HEARD FROM MY EIGHT YEARS ON COUNCIL IS THAT THE CITIZENS DON'T WANT THEY WANT A LOT MORE TRANSPARENCY. AND THAT'S HOW I THINK WE GET THAT BY HAVING ALL THE PUBLIC TYPE OF ENGAGEMENT THAT WE HAD FOR ENVISION, RICHARDSON AND SEVERAL OTHER PROCESSES. SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY MY PIECE ON THAT. COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE.

THANK YOU. YEAH, I MEAN, I'M I'M COMFORTABLE EITHER WAY. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE. IF YOU COME BACK TO US AND IT'S GOING TO BE $1 MILLION EXTRA TO DO AN ADVISORY COUNCIL COMMISSION, I THINK WE MIGHT HAVE A DIFFERENT TONE ON THE DAIS. RIGHT. SO I THINK BRING US BOTH OPTIONS AND WE CAN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION LATER. AND I AGREE THAT PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT IS IMPORTANT. I AM VERY CURIOUS WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE FOR THIS PROCESS. SO ARE WE JUST GOING TO BE ASKING VERY HIGH LEVEL QUESTIONS LIKE, DO YOU SUPPORT REDUCING PARKING MAXIMUMS, YOU KNOW, OR, YOU KNOW, ARE WE GOING TO BE ASKING THEM, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THREE FOOT SETBACKS? BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THE QUALITY OF FEEDBACK WE MAY GET WILL BE VERY DIFFERENT. AND THAT'S WHERE THE VALUE OF A PROFESSIONAL COMMITTEE COULD COME INTO PLAY TO PROVIDE US THAT MORE TECHNICAL FEEDBACK. BUT I, YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS SUPPORT PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT. YOU KNOW THAT. SO I'M IN FAVOR OF THAT. AND THEN I WOULD LIKE TO

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SEE WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IN COST WOULD BE BEFORE WE MAKE ULTIMATELY MAKE A DECISION ABOUT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. AS I SAID, THAT'S, I THINK THE BEAUTY OF THE THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO BE ABLE TO BRING THAT THOSE TWO COMPONENTS TO YOU BACK AS AN A LA CARTE OPTION. I'M. AGAIN, I'M NOT ADVOCATING FOR OR AGAINST AN ADVISORY COUNCIL. I'M SIMPLY TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IF THE PUBLIC PROCESS FOR THIS WOULD BE MUCH MORE LIKE THE ENTITLEMENT WORK AROUND THE THREE SPECIAL DEVELOPMENT AREAS AND THE VISION WORK OR ENVISION RICHARDSON. AND SO WE. I THINK MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU ARE HERE, MAYOR. MAYOR, YOU WERE HERE FOR WEST SPRING VALLEY FOR THE CODING PART OF THOSE VISION EXERCISES. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT. SO THOSE CODES ARE EVERY BIT AS TECHNICAL AS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IN THE CODE. SO THERE IS A PUBLIC PROCESS FOR THE TECHNICAL QUESTIONS THAT WILL BE AT THE CORE OF THE WORK THAT WILL BE DONE AS AT ON THE PART. WELL, ACTUALLY ON ALL THREE PARTS OF THIS. AND SO SO THERE IS A ROADMAP FOR HOW WE'VE APPROACHED THAT PUBLIC INPUT. I DON'T KNOW THE NUMBERS, BUT I KNOW IF YOU HAD AN ADVISORY COUNCIL AND YOU ADD ALL OF THAT ENGAGEMENT BY THE CONSULTANT, IT'S GOING TO BE MORE. SO I'M JUST TRYING TO FIND OUT IF THERE'S A DESIRE AS WE CREATE THE RFQ, IF THERE'S A DESIRE TO TO SIGNAL TO THE CONSULTANTS THAT THAT'S AN OPTION TO POTENTIALLY CHANGE THE APPROACH TO THE PUBLIC INPUT ON THE ON THE ENTITLEMENT WORK. YEAH. I MEAN, THAT DOESN'T COST US MORE, RIGHT? THAT'S JUST PART OF THE MENU WE PUT OUT, I THINK. YEAH, EXACTLY. YOU PUT THAT ON THERE AS MENU AND THEN WE CAN DECIDE BASED ON THE COST DIFFERENCE. YEAH. COUNCILMEMBER BARRIOS YEAH, I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN JUSTICE ON LOOKING AT THE MENU AND SEEING WHAT THE COSTS ARE. AND I DO WANT TO CLARIFY THE COMMENT ABOUT DESIRE AND ADVISORY COMMISSION IS NOT TO TAKE AWAY FROM TRANSPARENCY, BUT TO ADD TRANSPARENCY ON TOP OF THE OTHER THINGS. SO THAT THAT IS NO WAY TRYING TO NOT ADD OR JUST TO HAND IT OFF TO A SELECTED GROUP, THAT IS TO BRING MORE AND MORE ENGAGEMENT FROM OUR COMMUNITY IN. SO. COUNCILMEMBER DORIAN, YES, I'M JUST GOING TO WEIGH IN. SO WE'VE ALL HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN. I TOO CAN GO EITHER DIRECTION DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU KNOW, WHAT CITY MANAGER AND CITY STAFF BRING BACK FOR RECOMMENDATIONS. I HAVE ONE QUESTION. THE CONSULTANT THAT WE WOULD HIRE OUR CONSULTANT WITH, WE WOULD ALLOW THEM TO PUT TOGETHER THE COMMITTEE. IF THAT WAS THE DIRECTION THAT WE WERE GOING, OR WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THE CITY WOULD? OKAY, WE WOULD DO THAT. WE WOULD WE WOULD JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT BECAUSE I KNOW HOW ENGAGED THAT WOULD BE. BUT BUT I ALSO ANOTHER POINT THAT WAS MADE TONIGHT IS THE LEVEL OF INFORMATION THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GATHER. AND, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERING THIS IS PART OF MY BUSINESS AND PUTTING TOGETHER CODE REQUIREMENTS AND SETTING A NEW PATH FOR THAT, IT IS TECHNICAL AND WE'RE HOPING THAT WE CAN ENGAGE AND GET, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, JUST WHAT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER. WE HAVE A LOT OF ENGINEERS IN THE CITY. A LOT OF BRAINS IN THE CITY WOULD BE NICE FOR THEM TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, WHETHER IT'S A WORKSHOP OR, OR HOWEVER WE'RE GOING TO DESIGN IT THIS TIME. GENERALLY IT'S THROUGH WORKSHOPS. BUT I DO AGREE THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WE HAVEN'T CHANGED THIS SINCE 1950S. SO I THINK IT'S I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE DO IT RIGHT, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHEN WE'LL DO IT AGAIN. AND THESE ARE VERY IMPORTANT DETAILS. AND AGAIN, THEY ARE VERY TECHNICAL AND VERY HIGH LEVEL. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THAT WE REALLY NEED TO BE PAYING ATTENTION TO THAT, IN ADDITION TO THE FUNDING AND THE BUDGETING. BUT WE REALLY NEED TO BE PAYING ATTENTION TO WHAT DATA WE'RE GETTING BACK. THANK YOU. I JUST I'LL TOUCH ON A FEW THINGS. I THINK I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S SOMETHING NEW. AND SO FOR US, IT'S IT'S SORT OF MAY OR MAY NOT MAKE SENSE JUST RIGHT OFF THE BAT, BUT THERE'S A NUMBER OF OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE CHOSEN TO GO THIS PATH OF, OF AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE SPECIFIC FOR THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS, ESPECIALLY WHEN A CITY HAS A WEALTH OF EXPERTISE IN THEIR RESIDENCY THAT THEY CAN CALL ON WHICH, WHICH I BELIEVE WE DO. AND I THINK MOST OF US BELIEVE THAT.

AND THEN THE LAST THING AS FAR AS THE TRANSPARENCY IS CONCERNED, YOU KNOW, IF WE DECIDE THAT WE WANT, LIKE WE DO WITH CPC AND OTHERS TO DO TELEVISED OR RECORDED MEETINGS, I'M SURE THAT'S ALL CAN BE A PART OF WHAT WE WANT TO DO. IF WE HAVE ANY CONCERN ABOUT TRANSPARENCY BEING AN ISSUE THERE. FOR NOW, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO GO ASK FOR A NUMBER OF RFPS AND SEE WHAT KIND OF NUMBERS WE COME BACK WITH, AND THEN PERHAPS JUST REASSESS. AT THAT TIME. I DO THINK, AND I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT SEPARATELY, BUT BUT BASED ON EVEN SOME OF THE COMMUNICATION BACK AND FORTH, THIS PROJECT IS DIFFERENT THAN A NUMBER OF OUR OTHER VISIONING PROJECTS WHERE IT REQUIRED A TON OF INPUT FROM THE RESIDENTS.

THAT'S NOT TO SAY WE WOULD DO LESS INPUT, BUT IT'S A DIFFERENT KIND OF PROJECT. SO IT MAY BE THAT THIS TYPE OF PROJECT DOESN'T REQUIRE AS MUCH INPUT. AND SO, YOU KNOW, TO

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SOME DEGREE, I WOULD ALMOST I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DO THIS. AND MAYBE STAFF CAN JUST DECIDE THE BEST WAY TO DO IT, BUT I'D LOVE TO GET INPUT FROM THE FOLKS THAT WE'RE GETTING THE RFP FROM, HOW MUCH INPUT IS REALLY NORMAL WITH THIS KIND OF THING, ESPECIALLY IF YOU JUST CAME OFF OF A HEAVY INPUT. ENVISION RICHARDSON PROCESS THAT ALREADY TOOK A WHOLE LOT OF INPUT IN.

SO I JUST LOVE TO MAKE SURE WE GET THE EXPERTS GUIDING US ON THAT. SO. ALL RIGHT. AND JUST TO OFFER CLARIFICATION, OUR INTENTION IS TO ISSUE AN RFQ, RFQ FOR QUALIFICATION. I KNOW WE'VE BEEN KIND OF THROWN OUT RFP ALSO. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE WITH THAT, BECAUSE AGAIN, IT'S ALL ABOUT FINDING THE RIGHT PARTNER WITH US FOR THIS

[E. REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE CITY COUNCIL POLICIES AND PROCEDURES RELATED TO KEY TO THE CITY AND NAMING POLICIES]

PROJECT. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM E, WHICH IS TO REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE CITY COUNCIL POLICIES AND PROCEDURES RELATED TO KEY TO THE CITY AND NAMING POLICIES. MR. MAGNER, THANK YOU. MAYOR, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. GREG AND AMY ARE GOING TO TEAM UP ON THIS BRIEFING AGAIN. GREG'S GOING TO RUN THROUGH THE KEY TO THE CITY PROGRAM. THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED AT THE LAST BRIEFING. SO WE THINK WE CAN HOPEFULLY GAIN SOME CONSENSUS FROM YOU TONIGHT AND KIND OF WRAP THIS ONE UP. AND THEN WHEN IT COMES TO NAMING CITY ASSETS, WE BACK IN EARLY 2024, WE BRIEFLY PROVIDED SOME GUIDELINES. BUT NOW WITH THIS HEIGHTENED LEVEL OF FOCUS ON A KEY TO CITY, WHICH REALLY IS A WHOLE NOTHER LEVEL OF ACKNOWLEDGMENT, WE THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE THIS WOULD BE AN APPROPRIATE TIME TO ALSO KIND OF RE CONSIDER THE NAMING CITY ASSETS POLICY AND TRY TO HAVE THOSE AS ALIGNED AS POSSIBLE. THE THE LEVEL OF IMPORTANCE TO THESE DECISIONS ARE VERY SIMILAR. AND SO AMY'S GOING TO COVER THAT NAMING RECOMMENDED NAMING POLICY AS WELL. SO GREG, THANK YOU, SIR. OF COURSE, THESE INITIATIVES THAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THIS EVENING ALIGN DIRECTLY WITH YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN, SPECIFICALLY YOUR GOAL TO HAVE CLEAR, EFFECTIVE, EFFICIENT WAYS TO INTERACT WITH THE CITY.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, THESE ASSOCIATED TACTICS THAT GO ALONG WITH YOUR PLAN, STARTING FIRST WITH THE KEY TO THE CITY POLICY AND DESIGN REVIEW. SO WE'LL LOOK AT THE POLICY SOME BULLET POINTS ON IN FOR YOUR DISCUSSION ON FEEDBACK ON WHAT THAT POLICY SHOULD ENTAIL, OR SOME IDEAS THAT WE'LL BE BRINGING FOR YOU FOR THAT FEEDBACK. AND THEN WE'LL LOOK AT SOME DESIGNS THAT WE'VE DRAWN UP JUST TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK ON THE DIRECTION THAT THAT IS GOING AS WELL. SO LOOKING AT THE POLICY ITSELF AND FINDING A WAY TO FORMALIZE THIS APPROACH AND HOW WE MOVE FORWARD, ONE IS DEFINING THE KEY TO THE CITY AS THE HIGHEST HONOR FROM THE CITY GOVERNMENT. AND THAT THAT IS HOW THIS WOULD BE DEFINED GOING FORWARD. WE WOULD PUT THAT WITHIN POLICY, THAT THAT'S HOW THIS POSITION WOULD BE, OR THIS THIS AWARD WOULD BE DESIGNED FOR EITHER INDIVIDUALS OR ORGANIZATIONS. AND IN RECOGNITION OF THAT, THERE ARE TWO MECHANISMS HERE, ONE FOR EXCEPTIONAL SERVICE, AND THEN THE OTHER WOULD BE FOR EXCEPTIONAL CONTRIBUTION THINKING THAT SERVICE MAY BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE MORE IN DURATION, SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT LONGER, BUT NOT LIMITING IT TO THAT, BECAUSE IT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE EXCEPTIONAL IN SOME CONTRIBUTION, SOMETHING THAT IS DONE THAT YOU, AS THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD DETERMINE IS IS WORTHY OF THIS STATE. THE KEY TO THE CITY RECOGNITION THEN GOING ON WOULD BE IT WOULD BE PRESENTED AT A CIVIC CEREMONY OR SOME KIND OF EVENT, SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE NOT NECESSARILY A CITY COUNCIL MEETING. PROCLAMATIONS ARE WELL KNOWN FOR CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS AND THIS KIND OF FORUM, BUT THE THOUGHT WOULD BE THAT WE WOULD PUT IN POLICY THAT SHOULD THE THE KEY TO THE CITY BE PRESENTED, THAT IT WOULD BE ASSOCIATED WITHOME KIND OF CEREMONIAL EVENT OR SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE ABOVE AND BEYOND JUST A NORMAL WEEKLY EVENT. AND ALSO WITHIN THIS POLICY, THE LAST BULLET POINT THAT YOU SEE IS IT WOULD BE SOMETHING RARE AND RESERVED THAT THE FREQUENCY OR THE CADENCE AT WHICH THESE WOULD BE PRESENTED, THAT THERE AT LEAST WOULD BE A IDENTIFICATION OF HOW HOW FREQUENTLY THOSE ARE GOING. IT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE CREATED FOR YOUR DISCUSSION SO THAT AS YOU ARE SELECTING THESE, THAT THAT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING IN POLICY THAT WOULD BE IDENTIFIED AS HOW OFTEN IT AGAIN, TO GO WITH YOUR DISCUSSION THAT WHEN YOU'RE DECIDING TO, TO PRESENT A KEY TO THE CITY. AND FINALLY, HERE, THE KEY SHALL NOT BE ISSUED IN RECOGNITION OF IDEOLOGICAL, POLITICAL OR RELIGIOUS BELIEFS.

AGAIN, JUST SEPARATING OUT THE SERVICE AND THE CONTRIBUTION TO THE CITY ITSELF, NOT BASED ON SOME OTHER RELATED ITEM AS YOU SEE THERE. THE BULLET POINT YOU SEE AT THE TOP ON THIS PAGE THAT IT WOULDN'T BE THAT THE KEY TO THE CITY WOULD BE BASED ON JUST AN INDIVIDUAL. IT COULD GO TO AN ORGANIZATION OR AN ENTITY THAT IT ALLOWING THE POLICY THAT IT BE DEFINED AS

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MORE THAN JUST GOING TO ONE PERSON COULD GO TO A GROUP. ALSO, THE PROCESS FOR NOMINATION THAT IT WOULD COME FROM A MEMBER OF CITY COUNCIL THAT THE THE ANY NOMINATION WOULD HAVE TO WOULD START WITH YOU. AND THEN THAT WOULD GO THROUGH A PROCESS WITH THE CITY MANAGER WHO WOULD THEN BRING BACK TOWARDS COUNCIL FOR AN EVENTUAL VOTE ON PRESENTING OR AWARDING THIS. THE KEY TO THE CITY. THE ITEM. SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE ITEM PREPARATION, WE'VE GONE OUT, WE'VE LOOKED AT A FEW OPTIONS. YOU WILL SEE HERE IN A SECOND SOME AGAIN, THE DESIGN OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE. BUT WE ARE ANTICIPATING ABOUT $850, GIVE OR TAKE A LITTLE BIT, FOR EACH ONE OF THESE. KEY TO THE CITY'S. YOU'LL SEE THE DESIGN HERE IN A SECOND AS TO WHY IT'S GOING UP THAT HIGH, BUT THAT WOULD THAT ITEM PREPARATION WOULD TAKE PLACE ONCE YOU'VE DETERMINED AND PASS THE VOTE TO PRESENT THAT. AND WE WOULD START THAT PROCESS. AND THEN ONCE THE CEREMONY, WHEREVER THAT MAY TAKE PLACE, IS DETERMINED, THE MAYOR, AS THE OFFICIAL SPOKESPERSON FOR THE CITY COUNCIL, WOULD BE WITH COUNCIL TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT.

BUT EITHER THE MAYOR OR DESIGNEE WOULD PRESENT OVER TO THE ENTITY OR TO THE INDIVIDUAL WHO IS SELECTED. SO NOW WE GET INTO THE DRAFTS OF THE KEY TO THE CITY. WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT TYPES THAT YOU WILL SEE. ONE THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE TRADITIONAL, ONE THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE. PERHAPS YOU MAY SEE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE MODERN. THE TRADITIONAL GOES WITH THE TYPICAL BRASS KEY, WITH THE THE DESIGN HAVING, OF COURSE, JUST COMING OFF THE HEELS OF THE WILDFLOWER FESTIVAL WILDFLOWER DESIGN BUILT INTO IT. OF COURSE, THE STAR. WE'RE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. AND SO THAT BUILT IN THE SYMBOLISM BUILT IN WITH THE KEY.

AND WITH THAT, OF COURSE, GOES OUR CITY BRANDING, OUR ESTABLISHMENT DATE. AND THEN AS YOU GO OVER, YOU SEE WE'RE WORKING WITH SOMETHING. I MEAN, IT'S ALMOST A TAGLINE OR SO THAT YOU MAY SEE. ONE OF THE OPTIONS HERE WOULD BE INNOVATION WITH A BEAT, WHICH LEADS INTO OUR CULTURAL ARTS ASPECTS OF THE COMMUNITY. AND SO THAT'S WHERE YOU SEE THE PIANO KEYS AT THE END. AND SO WHEN THE THE KEY IS PRESENTED, IT WOULD BE IN SOMETHING LIKE THIS. NOW THIS IS AN AI GENERATED IMAGE THAT YOU SEE. THE AREA THAT YOU SEE AT THE TOP, THE TRIANGLE WOULD BE A CITY FLAG. AND SO THIS LOOKS VERY, YOU KNOW, THE CITY LOGO DIRECTLY ON IT. BUT THINK MORE. ONE OF OUR CITY FLAGS LIKE ONE BEHIND ME, THAT WOULD BE, AS YOU'VE SEEN, FOLDED INTO A TRIANGLE AND PLACED IN THIS AREA. AND THEN OF COURSE, THE KEY WITH A PLAQUE AT THE BOTTOM THAT WOULD HAVE THE NAME OF THE INDIVIDUAL OR TO, OR THE ENTITY, THE DATE AND THE RECOGNITION, WHAT IT'S TIED TO FOR FOR THE PRESENTATION. NEXT OPTION WOULD BE SOMETHING PERHAPS A LITTLE BIT MORE UPDATED FEEL OR LOOK, WE'D HAVE AN ACRYLIC KEY IN THE HANDLE AREA. WE WOULD HAVE SOMETHING THAT LOOKS ALONG THE LINES OF A COMPUTER CHIP SYMBOL SYMBOLIC OF OUR TECHNOLOGY, TECHNOLOGICAL HERITAGE, AND OF COURSE, WITH THE CITY LOGO THERE, ETCHED DETAILS HERE COULD BE A CREATIVE PULSE OF PROGRESS. AND THEN, OF COURSE, AS WITH THE OTHER KEY LEADING INTO THAT CULTURAL ARTS CONNECTION THAT WE HAVE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. AND SO THOSE ARE, OH, SORRY, THIS ESSENTIALLY WOULD BE WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE, THIS SAME SAME LAYOUT AND DESIGN, JUST A DIFFERENT TYPE, TYPE, TYPE AND STYLE OF KEY.

AND SO WITH THAT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON. YEAH, I BET YOU THERE WILL BE A FEW QUESTIONS BEFORE WE MOVE ON. COUNCILMEMBER BARRIOS. THANK YOU, GREG, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR DOING THIS. A COUPLE CLARIFICATION QUESTIONS. SORRY, ARE YOU SUGGESTING WE PICK ONE OR THE OTHER, CREATE OR CREATE SOMETHING DIFFERENT OR. I MEAN, IT'S ONE I GUESS I'M STRUGGLING TO UNDERSTAND. ARE YOU SUGGESTING TWO DESIGNS, ONE FOR MORE TECH FOCUSED TYPE OF RECIPIENTS AND MORE ART FOCUSED RECIPIENTS? I'M I THINK WE WANT ONE. AND WE JUST THEY'RE ASKING FOR OUR INPUT. YEAH. FOR WHICH ONES WE SEEM TO LIKE BETTER, OR IF WE'D LIKE TO TWEAK ONE OR THE OTHER. ARE THEY MORE OR LESS SIMILAR COSTS? I'M GUESSING ROUGHLY THE MOST EXPENSIVE ITEM ON THIS SETUP THAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU IS REALLY THE BOX. THE BOX, YEAH.

WAS NOW WITH THE, THE ACRYLIC, THAT'LL BE THE LESS, LESS EXPENSIVE VERSION OF THE KEY ITSELF, HAVING THE ACRYLIC AS OPPOSED TO THE BRASS. I THINK IT'S NEGLIGIBLE. I WOULDN'T CONSIDER COST. YEAH. IT'S NOT A BIG DIFFERENCE. OKAY. THE YOU MENTIONED CIVIC CEREMONIAL EVENT. SO WHEN WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, LUNAR NEW YEAR OR SOME KIND OF EVENT, WE WOULD PRESENT THESE IN THOSE TYPE OF SITUATIONS WHERE WE ALREADY HAVE, WE'RE NOT CREATING WHOLE NEW EVENTS AT THE ISEMAN EVERY FEW MONTHS TO PRESENT THE KEY. IS THAT WHAT THAT'S UP TO? THE

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CITY COUNCIL. YEAH, THAT'S UP TO THE COUNCIL. YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'M SURE I'LL HAVE MORE QUESTIONS, COUNCILMAN DORIAN. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK. THANK YOU. GREG. I THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER. I LIKE IT. I HAVE SOME COMMENTS ON ON THE DESIGN ONE, I LIKE THE THE BRUSHED GOLD KEY MUCH BETTER THAN THE ACRYLIC. I JUST THINK IT LOOKS A LITTLE MORE, I DON'T KNOW, ELEVATED. I HAD TO THROW IT OUT AT LEAST ONCE TONIGHT. A COUPLE SUGGESTIONS ON, YOU KNOW, I DO LIKE THE FACT THAT YOU INCORPORATED THE COMPUTER CHIP AND THE ACRYLIC.

IS THERE ANY WAY TO INCORPORATE IT? I KNOW WE ALREADY HAVE A LOT GOING ON WITH THE KEY ABOVE, BUT I WONDER IN THE THE KEY ITSELF IS POTENTIALLY COULD THAT BE LIKE A CHIP? YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW. I'M NOT TRYING TO ADD MORE COST TO IT, OF COURSE, BUT I KNOW THAT JUST BECAUSE I WE'RE A TECH, WE'RE A TECHNOLOGY CITY. AND I KNOW YOU'VE GOT A LITTLE TECHNOLOGY THERE RIGHT IN THE ON THE STEM OF THE KEY, BUT I DO LIKE WHAT'S ACTUALLY ON THE ACRYLIC.

SO I MEAN, IT'S JUST A THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, TO MAYBE PLAY AROUND WITH IT TO SEE IF IT'S EVEN AN OPTION. BUT I DO, I DO LIKE THAT KEY. THE BOX ITSELF LOOKS LOOKS GOOD. MY ONLY COMMENT ON THAT WOULD BE INSTEAD OF HAVING THE ARCH, WOULD IT, COULD IT BE AROUND, YOU KNOW, LIKE THIS, A ROUND PIECE THAT SITS ON TOP, POTENTIALLY NOT ALL THE WAY OUT TO THE EDGE, BUT JUST LIKE A CIRCLE WITH THE RICHARDSON, YOU KNOW, CIRCLE AND LOGO INSTEAD OF ONE, YOU KNOW, THAT COMES TO LIKE KIND OF LIKE A HOUSE POINT. IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A FOLDED FLAG. OH, OH, IS THAT WHAT IT IS? OKAY, SORRY ABOUT THAT. IT WOULD BE HARD TO FOLD. OKAY. WELL, YEAH, THAT WOULD BE KIND OF DIFFICULT, WOULDN'T IT? THAT WOULD BE A NEW FOLD FOR US. YES. SO IS THE SUGGESTION TO TAKE TO TRY TO ACHIEVE THE COMPUTER CHIP SOMEWHERE IN THE KEY. BUT TO REPLACE THE. ARE YOU ARE YOU SUGGESTING TO REPLACE THE FLOWERS AND THE STAR? BECAUSE THAT WHERE ELSE WOULD YOU CHOP OFF THE THE TEETH OF THE KEY THERE AT THE BOTTOM AND MAKE THAT A CHIP? I THINK THAT'S YEAH, THAT'S KIND OF I MEAN, I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THE SHAPE AND THE SIZE OR WHATEVER, AND IT COULD POTENTIALLY BE PART OF THE, THE KEY ITSELF. SO NOT, NOT HAVE THE MUSIC, NOT HAVE THE MUSIC NOTES. YEAH. HAVE THE CHIP. YEAH. EITHER WAY, I'M JUST SUGGESTING, I MEAN, I LIKE IT AS IS. I MEAN, IT'S FINE. I'M JUST THROWING OUT A COUPLE OTHER SUGGESTIONS IN CASE, YOU KNOW, YOU WANT TO GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD TO KIND OF JUST PLAY AROUND WITH WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. YEAH, I LIKE, I LIKE THAT YOU SAID YOU LIKE IT AS IT IS. ACTUALLY, THAT WAS A FAVORITE. THAT WAS MY OPTION. THAT'S ALL I HEARD. THAT WAS OPTION ONE. ANYWAY, THAT'S MY COMMENT. I MAY NOT HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB OF EXPLAINING IT. IF YOU NOTICE, IN THE. SO IT SAYS TECHNOLOGY AND MEDICAL. THERE. THERE'S A CIRCUIT BOARD DESIGN AROUND THE INNOVATION WITH A.

WITH A BEAT, I SAW THAT. YEAH. OKAY. I DIDN'T KNOW IF I KNOW I DIDN'T REALLY IT'S FINE. I JUST THOUGHT I WAS JUST TRYING TO BE A LITTLE DIFFICULT. BUT I ONLY HAVE TWO QUESTIONS WHEN WE'RE NOMINATING AN INDIVIDUAL ORGANIZATION OF SOME SORT, DO WE DOES THAT STANDARD PROTOCOL WHERE WE PROVIDE THAT TO THE CITY MANAGER OR WHO DO WE WHO DO WE SUBMIT THAT INFORMATION TO OR REQUEST YOU? WOULD ANY MEMBER OF THE CITY COUNCIL COULD NOMINATE AN INDIVIDUAL OR ORGANIZATION TO RECEIVE THE. THE KEY TO THE CITY THAT WOULD GO TO CITY MANAGER, WHO WOULD THEN PUT THAT ON TO A FUTURE ITEM FOR THE ENTIRE CITY COUNCIL TO VOTE ON. OKAY, YEAH, THAT WAS MY QUESTION. I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHO TO REPORT IT TO. AND THE SECOND THING, SINCE THIS IS KIND OF REALLY MORE OF A, I DON'T KNOW, SPECIAL AWARD, IS IT SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD DISCUSS IN EXECUTIVE SESSION TO, YOU KNOW, APPROVING IF WE WANT TO KNOW. PARDON. NO, THIS WE WERE IN ANTICIPATION OF PERHAPS A QUESTION ALONG THOSE LINES. WE CONFIRMED THAT THIS NOR ANY NAMING CONSIDERATIONS WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR AN EXECUTIVE SESSION. OKAY. SO IT WOULD BE IN PUBLIC. THANK YOU. I THINK I'M JUST GOING TO I DON'T REMEMBER WHO I'VE CALLED ON, BUT I'LL CALL YOU NEXT. COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE. THANK YOU. YEAH. JUST A TECHNICAL QUESTION. IN THE POLICY, YOU SAID THIS IS FOR THE THIS IS THE HIGHEST HONOR THAT A MUNICIPALITY CAN MAKE INFER. WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THE NAMING POLICY NEXT. I WOULD THINK THAT. SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE JUST NEED TO TWEAK THE LANGUAGE TO MAKE CLEAR. I THINK THAT YOU MEAN FOR LIKE A SYMBOLIC THING, LIKE A KEY, POTENTIALLY. BUT THAT LANGUAGE IS CONCERNING BECAUSE I THINK NAMING BALL FIELDS OR SOMETHING AFTER SOMEBODY IS A HIGHER HONOR THAN A KEY AND A LITTLE MORE PUBLIC. SO I WOULD JUST. CAN WE FIX THAT LANGUAGE SOMEHOW SO THAT WE'RE NOT

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HAVING THOSE TWO POLICIES COMPETE WITH EACH OTHER? WHATEVER THE ULTIMATE LANGUAGE WOULD BE? YEAH. THANK YOU. AND I AGREE DESIGN IS BETTER. WHICH DESIGN WAS BETTER? I LIKE THE METAL DESIGN. THE METAL ONE. YEAH. COUNCILMEMBER. YEAH. THAT'S WHAT MY NAME. THANK YOU.

NO, I COULDN'T, I COULDN'T REMEMBER WHICH ONE TO CALL NEXT. IT WASN'T THE NAME PART. YEAH.

NO THANK YOU. YEAH. NO IT'S IT'S ALL GOOD. BUT YOU KNOW. I DON'T KNOW IF WE SHOULD LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, ANY CRITERIA THAT. I DON'T, I DON'T LIKE TO PUT A CONDITION THERE.

OKAY. YOU HAVE TO MEET CERTAIN THINGS BEFORE SOMEONE CAN NOMINATE SOMEONE. OTHERWISE, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THIS COUNCIL, BUT IN THE FUTURE, YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT BE JUST. OKAY, I'M GOING TO PUT HIM. PUT HER ON THE ON THE COUNCIL MEETING. YOU KNOW, IF IT DOESN'T GO THROUGH, DOESN'T GO THROUGH LIKE IT COULD BE. I HOPE THIS DOESN'T BECOME LIKE ANOTHER. POLITICAL GAMES LIKE IN THE FUTURE. SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE SOMETHING, SOMETHING SPECIAL.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO. BUT THIS BUT AGAIN, THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE TO THINK ABOUT.

BUT MUCH EASIER POINT IS HERE, LIKE THE DESIGN THAT'S MORE COMPLICATED. BUT IF WE LOOK FOR THE YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, ARE YOU INTERESTED IN A HIGHER BAR OF APPROVAL OR BEING ABLE TO CONSIDER A NOMINEE? BECAUSE, I MEAN, YOU COULD YOU'LL SEE IN THE NAMING FOR THE EXACT POINT THAT COUNCILWOMAN JUSTICE MADE, WE'RE RECOMMENDING A SUPERMAJORITY. SO YOU COULD YOU COULD RAISE THE BAR, BUT IT DEPENDS ON DO YOU WANT TO RAISE THE BAR FOR APPROVAL, OR DO YOU WANT TO RAISE THE BAR FOR THE CONSIDERATION? BOTH. OKAY. WELL, THAT'S YOUR PREROGATIVE AS WELL. IT'S BOTH. BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ANOTHER THING THE COUNCIL TO DECIDE, I THINK. I'M NOT SURE WHAT IF WE LIMIT THE NUMBER WE DO PER YEAR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO IT DOESN'T TURN INTO WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. COULD WE HAVE LIKE 30 OF THEM EVERY YEAR? AND IT'S A BUDGET IMPACT. SO MAYBE THAT COULD. YEAH, I DON'T THINK THAT BUDGET IMPACT IS GOING TO BE THAT BIG DEAL. YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY INSIGNIFICANT. WE CAN RAISE THE FUNDS EVEN FROM THE COMMUNITY SPONSORSHIP. WELL, IF WE DO ALL THESE EVENTS AT THE ISEMAN OR. THEN THERE'S ALL KINDS OF. BUT AS LONG AS IF WE DON'T CREATE ANOTHER EVENT FOR THIS, THEN MUCH CHEAPER. BUT YEAH, OF COURSE WE CAN RAISE THE BAR LIKE SUPERMAJORITY AND OTHER THINGS. SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT, YOU KNOW, DETAIL. BUT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THOSE TWO DESIGN THAT YOU HAVE. CAN YOU BRING THOSE FLOUR AND CHIP? YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, BRASS, IT LOOKS BETTER, BUT NOT ALL THE DESIGN THERE. EVEN THE THE NEXT DESIGN THAT YOU HAVE, I THINK THAT THAT CIRCUIT THING HAS CHANGED. IT HAS IT IS LIKE OLD CIRCUIT. WE CAN WE CAN THINK ABOUT SOMETHING NEWER CIRCUIT, NEWER CHIP, MAYBE SILICON WAFER, SILICON WAFER, SILICON WAFER, MAYBE. YEAH, YEAH. OR MAYBE EVEN THERE'S SOMETHING BETTER THAN THAT. IT'S NOT EVEN SILICON WAFER THAT'S EVEN PASSED SOMETHING. YOU CAN GO MORE ADVANCED THAT, BUT MAYBE THE OTHER KEY COULD BE LIKE ONE OF THE CHIP COULD BE INTO THAT ONE FLOWER. YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT AI CAN AI CAN GENERATE A BUNCH OF OPTION INSTEAD OF HAVING FIVE FLOWER, YOU COULD HAVE ONE CHIP THERE, FOUR FLOWER THERE AND DIFFERENT THINGS, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE YOU COULD. I THOUGHT ABOUT LIKE PUTTING THIS THING INTO USB DRIVE. YOU CAN GET SOMETHING OUT OF IT. BUT AGAIN, THAT TECHNOLOGY CAN. WHAT IF WE REMOVE THE INNOVATION WITH A BEAT TEXT? AND JUST THE WHOLE RAP OF THAT SECTION WAS MORE OF A CHIP SO THAT IT WAS MORE PROMINENT. THERE YOU GO. THAT'S ANOTHER YEAH, THAT'S ANOTHER COULD BE ANOTHER GOOD OPTION.

BUT ANYWAY, I DON'T LIKE TO SEE THAT REALLY KEY. IT'S BETTER TO HAVE THE BRASS. THIS IS MORE.

BUT YOU KNOW, HAVING IF THIS THIS STARTED 20 YEARS AGO, THIS WAS FINE. I THINK WE ARE 20 YEARS BEHIND THIS SCHEME. SO WE NEED TO MAKE IT MORE ELEVATED. WOW. FOR 2026. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A FEW MORE DESIGN BEFORE MAKING EVEN ANY RECOMMENDATION. THANK YOU. OKAY. COUNCILMAN BORIS, THANK YOU. MAYOR DON, I LIKE YOUR SUGGESTION BECAUSE I WAS STRUGGLING WITH THE PHRASE AND I WAS STRUGGLING TO COME UP WITH ANOTHER PHRASE. SO I LIKE YOUR SUGGESTION ON THE, I DON'T KNOW, THE SHAFT OF THE KEY. FORGIVE ME FOR THIS MAY BE IGNORANCE, BUT THE RED FLOWER IS THAT. OR DO WE HAVE AN OFFICIAL CITY FLOWER? AND IS IT THAT FLOWER? NO, THAT WAS JUST SOMETHING THAT WE. IT'S. IT'S ONE OF THE DESIGNS FROM THE THE SOMETHING THAT WILDFLOWER SEED MIX THAT WE USE FOR THE PLANTINGS ACROSS THE CITY. OKAY. HOW MANY OF THESE BECAUSE WE

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WE'VE GIVEN. WELL, THIS COUNCIL AND TO MY KNOWLEDGE, PREVIOUS COUNCILS, RECENT COUNCILS HAVEN'T GIVEN. BUT GOING BACK THERE'S ONE PRESENTED. HOW MANY IN THE PAST HAVE PREVIOUS COUNCILS GIVEN BECAUSE WE. SOMEBODY RECEIVED THE KEY TO THE CITY BEFORE. DO WE KNOW.

I'M AWARE OF TWO. TWO. YEAH. OKAY. SO THE DESIGN THE I I'M KIND OF WITH COUNCILMAN SHAMSUL WITH THE DOUBLE WITH RAISING THE BAR ON BOTH OF THOSE. DEFINITELY WITH HOW MANY COUNCIL MEMBERS IT TAKES TO GET ON IT. BECAUSE I KNOW, YOU KNOW, IT TAKES THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO GET SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA, BUT YET IT'S GOING TO TAKE ONE TO GIVE A KEY TO THE CITY. LIKE IT JUST SEEMS LIKE A WEIRD RATIO THERE. OUR COMPARISON. SO I THINK WE NEED TO RAISE THE BAR ON BOTH OF THOSE. SO SO 3 TO 3 COUNCILMAN BORROWS THREE TO GET IT ON FOR DISCUSSION AND THEN A SUPERMAJORITY TO APPROVE IT. I WOULD SAY, YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE I'M AT. I MEAN, I'M OPEN TO DISCUSSION, BUT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, AS OF RIGHT NOW, THAT'S WHERE I THINK I AM.

THE CONCERN ABOUT COSTS ASSOCIATED, I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, IF WE SAID THINKING ABOUT COSTS AND AND WHAT ARE THESE GOING TO LOOK LIKE AS A, AS A BUDGET LINE ITEM? I DON'T THINK IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY IT'S $700 FOR THE BOX AND THE FLAG AND, OR, YOU KNOW, LET'S, LET'S, LET'S SAY $1,000 JUST TO MAKE IT ROUND. EVEN THEN THAT WILL COMPARE. THAT WOULD BE SMALL COMPARED TO THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH STAFF CLEANUP, YOU KNOW, A DESSERT RECEPTION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH AN EVENT AT THE ICEMAN. IF WE WERE TO DO AN EVENT LIKE THAT, I THINK THAT'S WHERE THOSE COSTS BECOME BIGGER. SO THAT TO ME IS A BIG RED FLAG AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS. I LOVE THE IDEA OF THE OF THE KEY I LOVE. I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT THAT ASSOCIATED COSTS AND MAKE SURE WE TAKE THOSE INTO CONSIDERATION. DON, A SECOND AGO, I THINK IT WAS COUNCILMAN DORIAN, MAYBE IT WAS MAYOR PRO TEM ASKED A QUESTION AND YOU RESPONDED SOMETHING ABOUT EXECUTIVE SESSION. I DIDN'T CATCH ALL THAT. DO YOU MIND REPEATING THAT? SO I MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD WHAT YOU SAID. YES. JUST JUST IN ANTICIPATION OF BOTH THE KEY TO THE CITY DELIBERATIONS AS WELL AS POTENTIAL NAMING, WE JUST RAN SOME TRAPS TO MAKE TO WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY TO ASK POSED THE QUESTION OF, COULD EITHER OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS BE ELIGIBLE FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE? AND ESSENTIALLY THE ANSWER WAS NO. AND SO THAT THAT WAS THE THE THE FEEDBACK, COUNCILMAN. THE OTHER THING IS, YOU KNOW, MOVING FORWARD, IF YOU WERE GOING TO CAP THE NUMBER OF KEYS TO THE KEYS TO THE CITY THAT COULD BE GIVEN OUT IN ANY GIVEN YEAR, WE WOULD AT LEAST HAVE A CEILING IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, IF WE WERE GOING TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, THREE A YEAR OR FIVE A YEAR, I MEAN, WE WOULD KNOW ESSENTIALLY THE COST OF THE KEY TO THE CITY IN THE BOX. AND, AND THEN IF WE WERE GOING TO HAVE ANY RECEPTIONS, WE COULD WE COULD ACCOUNT FOR THAT. BUT SO I THINK THERE'S A WAY, YOU KNOW, MOVING FORWARD AND TO, TO, TO MANAGE THAT EFFECTIVELY FROM A BUDGET. AND, YOU KNOW, WORST CASE, YOU WOULDN'T GIVE OUT AS MANY. AND, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE A SAVINGS ACTUALLY. AND PERHAPS WE CAN DO IT ALL AT ONCE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT'S NOT THE ONLY AWARD WE GIVE OUT. I DON'T KNOW, I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S A AT LEAST A WORTHY CONVERSATION. I'M NOT SAYING WE SHOULD COMBINE IT WITH THIS STUFF, BUT I THINK AT LEAST I'M JUST THINKING OUT LOUD. I'M THINKING, OKAY, WHAT'S WHAT'S THAT LOOK LIKE STAFF BECAUSE I KNOW STAFF IS, IS A LOT OF TIMES WHERE THOSE HIDDEN COSTS ARE. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

MAYOR PRO TEM, I WAS JUST GOING TO THROW OUT THE IDEA OF RATHER THAN HAVING A SEPARATE RECEPTION. WE HAVE STATE OF THE CITY, WE HAVE 4TH OF JULY AND WE HAVE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

COULD WE NOT, YOU KNOW, IF WE SAID, GIVEN THAT, WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE, I DON'T KNOW, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, WHATEVER THE NUMBER IS, IF WE KIND OF SAID, OKAY, FIRST QUARTER, WE DO IT AT STATE OF THE CITY, SECOND, THIRD QUARTER, WE DO IT 4TH OF JULY. AND LAST QUARTER OF THE YEAR WE DO AT BOARDS AND COMMISSION. THEN THEN THERE'S WE'RE AT LEAST THEN WE'RE ONLY REALLY INCURRING THE COST OF THE, OF THE KEY ITSELF AND THE, AND THE FLAG AND THE, AND THE BOX. BUT WE'RE NOT COMING. WE'RE NOT HAVING TO SPEND AN ADDITIONAL.

AND I DON'T I DON'T KNOW WHAT A RECEPTION COSTS SEVERAL THOUSAND DOLLARS, I'M GUESSING.

I DON'T KNOW THAT NUMBER, BUT IF WE JUST DID IT ALREADY WITH SOMETHING ELSE, COULD WE NOT DO.

COULD WE NOT PROPOSE IT THAT WAY? SURE. YEAH. YES. I THINK FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, AT LEAST, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR JUMPING IN, BUT I THINK RIGHT NOW, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING THE BUDGET YEAR WHERE WE ARE UP AGAINST THE LITTLE BIT OF DISCUSSION THAT'S ALREADY KIND OF GONE ON AROUND THIS THUS FAR HAS BEEN, LET'S JUST PIGGYBACK IT ON ANOTHER EVENT. YEAH. WHAT

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I DON'T WANT TO DO PERSONALLY, BUT THERE'S SEVEN OF US TO MAKE THIS DECISION IS I DON'T WANT TO EARMARK ONLY SPECIFIC TIMES EXPECTATION THAT EVERY 4TH OFE JULY WE ARE GOING TO DO A KEY TO THE CITY, AND WE MAY NOT. YEAH, NO, I KNOW I WASN'T SUGGESTING, BUT I THINK I THINK EACH COUNCIL CAN DECIDE IF WE'VE GOT A ROBUST BUDGET AND THERE'S A REAL SPECIAL SITUATION THAT WE THINK WE REALLY WANT TO DO SOMETHING, THEN THEN WE COULD DO SOMETHING.

IF WE ARE IN THE CURRENT YEAR THAT WE'RE IN, YOU KNOW, WE MAY SAY, HEY, LET'S LET'S LOOK AT THE 4TH OF JULY, FOR EXAMPLE. THAT'S COMING UP AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ONE OF THOSE KEYS TO THE CITY. SO I THINK WE CAN HOPE THAT BOTH THIS COUNCIL AND FUTURE COUNCILS WILL ALWAYS KIND OF KEEP IN MIND THE BUDGET WHENEVER THEY'RE MAKING EACH OF THOSE INDIVIDUAL DECISIONS.

THERE MAY BE YEARS WHEN THERE'S NO KEY TO THE CITY, AND THERE MAY BE YEARS WHERE THERE'S MULTIPLE, AND YOU JUST NEVER KNOW WHAT THE CONDITIONS ARE THAT COULD THAT COULD COME UP, THAT MIGHT CREATE IT. SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY $0.02 ON THAT PART. BUT COUNCILMAN DORIAN. YES, THANK YOU, MAYOR, I AM AND I KIND OF AGREE WITH THAT AS WELL. AND WE DON'T HAVE TO SPECIFICALLY, I LOVE TYING IT INTO AN EXISTING EVENT, THOUGH, TO SAVE COST, BUT IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IT ON EVERY SINGLE EVENT. AND TO YOUR POINT, YES. I MEAN, I SAID THIS I THINK A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING THIS, THAT THE KEY TO THE CITY SHOULD BE SOMETHING EXTREMELY SPECIAL AND WE SHOULD NOT JUST GIVE IT OUT ALL THE TIME. AND, YOU KNOW, I, I HAD IN MY HEAD, I WAS THINKING, YOU KNOW, IF WE WERE GOING TO DO ANYTHING AT ALL A COUPLE OF TIMES A YEAR, MAYBE, BUT, BUT TO YOUR POINT, YOU, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE A SPECIAL SITUATION ONE YEAR WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE MAY HAVE TO MAKE AN ALTERNATE DECISION. AND I THINK THAT'S FINE. BUT I MEAN, WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME WE GAVE A KEY TO THE CITY? YOU SAID THERE'S BEEN ONLY TWO GIVEN IN THE HISTORY OF APPROXIMATELY TWO YEARS AGO. ABOUT TWO. OKAY. SO YEAH, I THINK IT SHOULD BE VERY, VERY SPECIAL. BUT YEAH, THAT'S I AGREE. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN JUSTICE. YEAH, I WAS JUST GOING TO CHIME IN ON THAT. I THINK IT MAKES SENSE TO THAT. THREE NEED TO GET THIS ON THE AGENDA. I THINK THAT ADDRESSES SOME OF WHAT COUNCILMAN WAS TALKING ABOUT AND TAKES OUT SOME OF THE POLITICS FROM THAT FOR SURE.

AND WE'RE NOT HAVING A DISCUSSION JUST BECAUSE ONE PERSON THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT IDEA. AND I'M OKAY WITH THE SUPERMAJORITY AS WELL, RIGHT? THIS IS A VERY HIGH HONOR IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE. ARE WE SAYING SUPERMAJORITY IS FIVE, SIX, SIX? OKAY, COOL. IT'S FINE BY ME. SO I THINK WHAT WE'VE I THINK WE'VE GENERALLY AGREED, AT LEAST ON SOME OF THE PROCESS POINTS, WHICH MAKE IT KIND OF AS A. AS ROBUST AS YOU WOULD WANT FOR SOMETHING THAT'S THIS KIND OF AN HONOR ON THE DESIGN. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE GIVEN ENOUGH OR HAVE WE FEEDBACK. I REALLY LIKE THIS DESIGN. I DO UNDERSTAND AND YOU KNOW, WHEN I FIRST STARTED TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THIS STUFF, I WANTED THERE TO BE A COMPUTER CHIP OR SOMETHING BECAUSE I WANTED SOMETHING TO DESIGNATE THAT INNOVATION PART. THERE IS SOMETHING ABOUT THIS THAT FEELS TRADITIONAL, BUT TRADITIONAL IN A GOOD WAY. I, I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE A CITY FLOWER, OR AT LEAST NOT THAT I KNOW OF. AND SO TO HAVE FIVE OF SOMETHING THAT ISN'T EXACTLY THE CITY FLOWER WOULD PROBABLY BE A LITTLE BIT SOMETHING. IT'S NITPICKY, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD THINK WE MAY WANT TO KIND OF CONSIDER IF WE WENT THIS DIRECTION. WHAT IF WE, WHAT IF WE COME BACK WITH MAYBE TWO OR MAYBE THREE OPTIONS WHERE WE ELIMINATE THE WORDING AND CREATE A MORE PROMINENT TECH FEEL TO THAT PART OF THE KEY? WE'VE GOT THE MUSIC FOR THE HEISMAN CENTER AND THE WILDFLOWER FESTIVAL, AND THEN MAYBE GREG, WE COULD LOOK AT SOME OTHER FLOWERS THAT ARE IN THAT MIX THAT THAT WE'VE USED NOW FOR 25 YEARS. AND MAYBE IT COULD BE DIFFERENT COLOR, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT FLOWERS. BUT IF THAT SOUNDS LIKE A OKAY, NEXT STEP, WE'LL, WE'LL, I THINK SO, GREG. I CAN'T TELL IF GREG THINKS THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. YEAH, NO, I'M WRITING IT DOWN. I'M WRITING IT NOW. THAT'S GOOD. THAT'S GOOD. WE'LL LOOK INTO WHAT OPTIONS WE CAN DO. OKAY. YEAH. AND WE'LL BRING BRING BACK TO MAYBE THREE VARIATIONS.

BUT IS THAT HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION OVERALL? YES. HOW FAST CAN THEY MAKE ONE OF THESE? LIKE, LET'S SAY WE DID LOVE IT EXACTLY AS IT WAS. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO CREATE ONE? SO I HAD OUR THE PERSON LOOKING INTO THAT AND WE'D HAVE TO HAVE A DIE CAST. AND HE HASN'T GOTTEN BACK TO ME. IT'S BEEN I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR A FEW WEEKS, SO I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S HAVING A DIFFICULTY TRYING TO FIND SOMEBODY THAT CAN EVEN DO IT. SO I WOULD HOPE THAT. WELL, TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, WHEN WE DO THE MEDALLIONS FOR THE BOND PROGRAM, THAT'S ABOUT A THREE MONTH TURNAROUND. WE HAVE TO GET THE DIE CAST. AND THEN IT'S A LONG PROCESS. I DON'T KNOW

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WHAT IT WOULD TAKE. I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF WE HAVE TO DO A MINIMUM NUMBER TO DO IT FOR THIS YET. WE MAY HAVE TO ORDER 50 IN ORDER TO HAVE THEM ON STANDBY. SO THOSE ARE THOSE ARE QUESTIONS I'VE ASKED, AND WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED THE THE FINAL ANSWER ON IT. NOW THAT WE KNOW WE'RE GOING IN THIS DIRECTION, IT'LL ALLOW US TO SHOP AROUND MORE AND LOOK AT MORE VENDORS.

I MEAN, WE WERE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, WE NEEDED TO DRILL DOWN A LITTLE. SO. WE'RE OFF NEXT WEEK.

WE'RE GOING TO SHOOT TO HAVE THOSE DESIGNS BACK TO YOU BY JUNE 1ST. AND THEN ALSO IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS, SHOP AROUND TO SEE IF THERE ARE OTHER VENDORS THAT CAN PERHAPS TURN IT AROUND QUICKER. SO BY JUNE 1ST, WE'LL HAVE A BETTER ANSWER ON THAT. AND HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, IF YOU GUYS CAN SELECT SOMETHING ON JUNE 1ST, THAT'S GOING TO BE A BIG HELP IN TERMS OF IN TERMS OF, YEAH, YEAH, I'D LOVE TO SEE US BE ABLE TO AT LEAST BEGIN THE PROCESS WITH OUR FIRST. BUT THE FIRST OF THIS NEXT GENERATION OF KEYS TO THE CITY. SO YES, COUNCILMAN, JUST THE LAST THING. YEAH. I MEAN, SO YOU'RE BRINGING A FEW MORE DESIGN JUST TO SEE. WELL, BUT BUT IT'S GOING TO BE IT'S GOING TO BE VERY SPECIFIC TO THE CHANGES I MENTIONED. SO IT'S GOING TO BE THIS KEY WITH A MORE ENHANCED TECHNOLOGY, YOU KNOW, KIND OF DESIGN IN THE CENTER OF THE KEY WHERE THE WORDING CURRENTLY IS. AND THEN A VARIATION ON TRYING TO DEPICT THE FLOWERS THAT WE'RE ALL THE COLORS OF, AND THE KINDS OF FLOWERS WE'RE ALL ACCUSTOMED TO SEEING AS WE DRIVE AROUND. THAT WAS GOING TO BE THE EXTENT OF THE CHANGES. OKAY, NO, THAT'S FINE. AND THE OTHER THING IS LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE ONLY THE KEY, YOU HAVE TO KEEP THIS THING IN THE STOCK BECAUSE THAT'S A SPECIAL, THE BOX COULD BE ORDERED DIFFERENT TIMES. SO THOSE ARE LIKE THE BULKY THINGS AND MOST EXPENSIVE ONE. ANYWAY, SO THANK YOU. JUST WANTED TO GET THAT CLARIFICATION. COUNCILMEMBER BARRIOS MAYOR, I APOLOGIZE, I JUST CAUGHT SOMETHING, GREG, ON THE IT SAYS KEY TO THE CITY OF RICHARDSON. I WOULD HOPE THAT EITHER ON THAT PLAQUE OR SOMEWHERE WOULD SAY MAYBE THE RECIPIENT'S NAME AND THE DATE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YEAH, IT'S RIGHT THERE. PERFECT. YEAH. WELL, THAT SAYS KEY TO THE CITY. OH, NO, IT'LL IT'LL SAY WHATEVER WE WANT IT TO SAY. RIGHT. CORRECT. YEAH. PERFECT. CUSTOMIZABLE. YEAH.

GOOD CATCH THOUGH. OKAY. A FEW MORE DESIGNS AND THEN HOPEFULLY SOMEBODY THAT CAN TURN IT AROUND IN THREE WEEKS FROM THE TIME THAT WE SAY YES TO A DESIGN. ALL RIGHT. WELL, WE GOT 4TH OF JULY COMING UP. YOU NEVER KNOW. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THIS IS GOING TO SOUND VERY SIMILAR. SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE NAMING ASSETS.

AND AS DON MENTIONED, WE PREVIOUSLY DID TALK ABOUT THIS BACK IN 2024. WE GAVE YOU SOME GUIDELINES, BUT WE NEVER ADOPTED A FORMAL POLICY. SO SINCE WE HAVE PROVIDED YOU WITH THE KEY TO THE CITY POLICY, WE WANTED TO ENSURE CONSISTENCY SO THAT YOU HAVE A SIMILAR FRAMEWORK FOR MAKING THESE DECISIONS. OBVIOUSLY, NAMING A CITY ASSET IS AN IMPACTFUL AND LONG LASTING DECISION. SO THESE GUIDELINES ENSURE THAT CITY COUNCIL MAINTAINS THAT AUTHORITY, THAT RECOGNITION IS FOR EXCEPTIONAL CONTRIBUTION TO THE CITY AND IS ALIGNED WITH THE CEREMONIAL RECOGNITION POLICY. THE TYPES OF ASSETS COVERED INCLUDE PUBLIC BUILDINGS, INFRASTRUCTURE, CITY PROGRAMS, PROJECTS AND SERVICES. HERE WE SHOW THE HIERARCHY OF CEREMONIAL RECOGNITION, WITH THE KEY TO THE CITY AND THE ASSET NAMING AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF RECOGNITION, AND USED ONLY ON RARE OCCASIONS FOR EXTRAORDINARY COMMEMORATION. SO AN HONORARY OR LEGACY NAMING RECOGNIZES INDIVIDUALS OR ORGANIZATIONS WITH SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTIONS TO RICHARDSON. IT IS RESERVED FOR AN EXTRAORDINARY INDIVIDUAL OR ORGANIZATION THAT HAS PROVIDED A LASTING IMPACT ON THE CITY, AND AGAIN, IS A RARE AND HIGHLY SELECTIVE PROCESS. THIS WOULD REQUIRE A FORMAL NOMINATION BY THE MAYOR OR COUNCIL MEMBER, AND WE COULD INCREASE THAT THRESHOLD, AS Y'ALL MENTIONED, FOR KEY TO THE CITY. AND THEN APPROVAL WOULD REQUIRE A SUPERMAJORITY VOTE, WHICH IS SIX OUT OF SEVEN. IN GENERAL NAME SHOULD REFLECT COMMUNITY VALUES, LOCAL HISTORY, GEOGRAPHY, OR INDIVIDUALS AND ORGANIZATIONS WITH MEANINGFUL CONNECTIONS TO RICHARDSON. THE POLICY ALSO SEEKS TO AVOID DUPLICATION OR CONFUSION AND ENSURES THAT NAMES REMAIN APPROPRIATE FOR LONG TERM PUBLIC USE. FOR NAMING CONSIDERATIONS, THE INDIVIDUAL ORGANIZATION SHOULD DEMONSTRATE SIGNIFICANT SERVICE LEADERSHIP OR MEASURABLE COMMUNITY IMPACT. ALONG WITH THE DIRECT CONNECTION TO RICHARDSON TO MAINTAIN NEUTRALITY AND PUBLIC TRUST NAMES BASED ON PRIMARILY POLITICAL, IDEOLOGICAL OR RELIGIOUS POSITIONS WOULD NOT BE ELIGIBLE. THE POLICY ALSO GENERALLY DISCOURAGES NAMING AFTER CURRENTLY SERVING ELECTED OFFICIALS WITH A PREFERENCE FOR A POSTHUMOUS RECOGNITION OR RECOGNITION AFTER A SUBSTANTIAL PERIOD OF SERVICE. A NOMINATION

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FOR NAMING A CITY ASSET CAN BE SUBMITTED BY THE MAYOR OR ANY MEMBER OF THE CITY COUNCIL. AND AGAIN, WE CAN INCREASE THAT THRESHOLD. THE CITY MANAGER WOULD THEN PLACE THE ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA, AND THEN YOU WOULD VOTE BY SUPERMAJORITY TO APPROVE THAT NAMING. WE'VE ALSO ADDED A PROCESS FOR RENAMING AN ASSET SHOULD THAT BE NECESSARY UNDER RARE CIRCUMSTANCES, AND RENAMING COULD BE CONSIDERED IN A SITUATION SUCH AS HISTORICAL CORRECTION MIGHT BE NEEDED, OR ALIGNMENT WITH COMMUNITY VALUES. AND RENAMING WOULD FOLLOW THE SAME PROCESS AS THE CRITERIA THAT WE MENTIONED BEFORE, WITH ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATION TO COST TO REBRAND AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE. WHAT QUESTIONS DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHENRIDER, JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION. WHEN WE SAY NAMING ASSETS, I KNOW IN SOME CASES THERE'S BEEN A FEW ROADS NAMED AFTER SOMEONE WITH THIS. WOULD THIS BE PICKED UP AS A PART OF THAT? BECAUSE, I MEAN, I SEE WHEN I SEE AN ASSET, I THINK OF MORE LIKE A PHYSICAL STRUCTURE THAN I DO PER SAY, A ROAD. BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THAT OR HOW THAT FITS INTO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT. THOSE WERE ACTUALLY THE DECISION OF THE DEVELOPERS.

AND TRADITIONALLY THE DEVELOPERS ARE ALLOWED TO NAME THE ROADS IN THEIR IN THEIR, IN THEIR PROJECT. BUT WE COULD, YOU COULD, YOU COULD DEFINITELY CONSIDER THAT TO BE A INFRASTRUCTURE PIECE IF YOU WANTED TO RENAME A ROAD AFTER SOMEBODY, YOU COULD FOLLOW THIS EXACT PROCESS. BUT, BUT NEW ROADS ARE GENERALLY THE NAMING IS A LOT TO TO BE DONE BY THE DEVELOPER. OKAY, I DIDN'T KNOW IF WE NAMED THEM OR HOW THAT WAS DONE. OKAY. THANKS, COUNCILMEMBER. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I DO LIKE THAT SOME OF THE BULLET POINTS THAT YOU HAVE, THE RESTRICTIONS, IT CLARIFIES SOME OF THE THINGS. SO, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK OVERALL, I THINK THIS IS GOOD. COUNCIL MEMBER BARRIOS THANK YOU, MAYOR, I DON AND. AMY, I HAVE CLARIFICATION BECAUSE I HAD A SIMILAR CONCERN AND QUESTION AS AS MAYOR PRO TEM. SO LET'S SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, THE ROAD THAT GOES ALONG METHODIST, IF WE WANT TO RENAME IT HUTCHENRIDER WAY AND OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT LET'S SAY SOMETHING LIKE THAT. DOES THIS ALLOW FOR THAT? OR BECAUSE LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT NAMING, I THINK IT WAS THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, IT WAS WE WERE ONLY NAMING NEW ASSETS, THE NEW BRIDGE, THE NEW PAVILION, STUFF LIKE THAT IS THAT IS THIS CHANGING THAT AND HELP CLARIFY. IT JUST PROVIDES THE EXCUSE ME, IT PROVIDES THE COUNCIL WITH THAT LATITUDE. IF YOU CHOSE TO DO THAT, IT IT'S USING THE SAME PROCESS, THE SAME CRITERIA, AND THE SAME CLASS OF ASSETS WOULD BE ELIGIBLE TO BE RENAMED IN THE EVENT THAT THE COUNCIL FELT THAT THAT WAS PRUDENT. SO EVEN EXISTING STRUCTURES AND ROADS, NOT JUST NEW, RIGHT, WHICH IS WHAT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED, RIGHT? WE YEAH. I MEAN, IF YOU, IF YOU, IF YOU AS A BODY, YOU DON'T WANT THE ABILITY TO RENAME THEM. WE OKAY.

WE COULD TAKE THAT OUT. I WASN'T SURE IF THAT RENAMING REFERRED TO LIKE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S IN THE LAST FEW YEARS THERE'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, CESAR CHAVEZ, FOR EXAMPLE, WITH SOME OF THE STUFF THAT'S HAPPENING, A LOT OF CITIES HAVE CHOSEN TO RENAME THAT TO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. IT'S A GOOD EXAMPLE. YEAH. AND PROBABLY THE MOST RECENT BIG ONE THAT WE HAVE, I WASN'T SURE THIS RENAMING POLICY, LIKE FIX THOSE KIND OF EXAMPLES. IF WE HAD A CESAR CHAVEZ BOULEVARD AND WE NEEDED TO RENAME IT IF THAT ALLOWED FOR THIS OR THIS ALLOWED FOR, I DON'T KNOW, ROSE DRIVE TO BE RENAMED, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING OVER AFTER SOMEBODY. IT WOULD PROVIDE THE COUNCIL THE LATITUDE TO RENAME ANYTHING THAT THAT YOU KNOW, THAT THAT YOU WOULD NAME. AND UNDER THOSE ASSET CATEGORIES. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THIS. I'M I TO BE HONEST, I'D LIKE TO HEAR WHAT OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS. I REMEMBER THIS BEING SUCH AN EXTENSIVE CONVERSATION THE LAST TIME WE LOOKED AT THIS. I'M CURIOUS TO HEAR WHAT OTHERS SAY.

COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE. THANK YOU. YOU'VE TOUCHED ON IT A COUPLE TIMES, BUT I THINK IT SHOULD BE A MINIMUM THAT WE NEED TO TAKE IT TO THE CITY MANAGER. SO I'M IN FAVOR OF UPDATING THAT. AGAIN, THIS SHOULD BE EVEN MORE RARE THAN THE KEY TO THE CITY. SO, YOU KNOW, I JUST I THINK WHATEVER ASSETS THE CITY OWNS, THAT'S FINE. WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW, AND IT JUST SHOULD BE SO EXCEPTIONALLY RARE THAT I DON'T THINK, TO YOUR POINT, DOES IT MATTER IF WE WANT TO NAME A CURRENT GAZEBO OR A FUTURE GAZEBO? PROBABLY

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NOT. SO I'M NOT SUPER CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. I JUST THINK REALLY, IT'S INCUMBENT ON THE COUNCIL TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE 50 GAZEBOS DOESN'T MEAN WE NEED TO NAME ALL OF THEM, RIGHT? LIKE WE JUST NEED TO BE REALLY JUDICIOUS ABOUT USING THIS POLICY. COUNCIL MEMBER DORAN THANK YOU. I YEAH, I AGREE. I MEAN, I THINK THIS SHOULD EVEN BE MORE RARE THAN THE KEY OF THE CITY. AND, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THIS WOULD INCLUDE LIKE BENCHES AND AS MENTIONED EARLIER, BRIDGES OR ANY, IT WOULDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE BENCHES IN THE PARK AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT. YEAH. SO, SO JUST THAT'S AN IMPORTANT CLARIFICATION. AND AMY, IF YOU SAID IT, I APOLOGIZE FOR REPEATING IT. BUT RECALL FROM THE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY, WHEN IT'S A PARK ASSET, THERE'S THAT'S WHY YOU DON'T SEE PARKS ON THERE. THERE'S A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PROCESS THAT'S ARTICULATED THAT THE, THE, THE PARKS COMMISSION IS INVOLVED IN MAKING A RECOMMENDATION. AND, AND THERE'S A WHOLE PROCESS. THERE'S A WHOLE FLOWCHART THAT WE SHARED WITH YOU AT THAT TIME.

SO, SO ANYTHING WITHIN A PARK WOULD NOT BE SUBJECT TO THIS BECAUSE THERE'S A POLICY THAT'S SET ASIDE FOR THAT ALREADY. BRIDGES, GAZEBOS, ANYTHING PARK RELATED. OKAY, GOOD. GREAT.

GOOD. THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION ON THAT. SO THIS WE'RE LOOKING AT SOMETHING MORE MONUMENTAL HERE. WE'RE LOOKING AT, AS YOU SAID EARLIER, BUILDINGS AND OR A STREET OR MAYBE A NEW DEVELOPER COMES IN AND POTENTIALLY THAT BUILDING, I DON'T KNOW, WE SUGGEST IT BEING CALLED SOMETHING DIFFERENT. THE ONE THING I DON'T WANT TO SEE IS JUST MORE FEEDBACK FOR EVERYONE, IS TO SEE SOME OF OUR SIGNIFICANT NAMED BUILDINGS AND OR STREETS THAT HAVE BEEN AROUND THAT PART OF THE HISTORY OF RICHARDSON. AND THERE'S A THOUGHT BEHIND HOW THAT CAME TOGETHER FOR US TO, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY HAVE A SMALLER LATITUDE OF, OF DOING THAT. IT TAKES AWAY IT JUST TAKES AWAY THE HISTORY OF HOW THE CITY WAS DESIGNED AND DEVELOPED. BUT YEAH, SO I JUST WANT TO KIND OF MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE VERY CLEAR ON WHAT WE'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, PARTICULARLY LOOK AT NAMING. AND I KNOW WE CAN'T MAKE A FULL LIST HERE, BUT I MEAN, IT REALLY COULD INCLUDE QUITE A BIT, IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT.

ANYWAY, THAT'S MY COMMENT. YEAH, I THINK, I THINK MAYBE THE GOOD NEWS IS BY AS A POLICY SAYING THAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE SIX OUT OF SEVEN. I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S A PRETTY HIGH BAR AND IT DOESN'T TAKE A LOT TO OPPOSE SOMETHING IF IT'S GOING AGAINST A CITY HISTORICAL, WHATEVER CONCERN THAT MIGHT BE. SO I THINK THE ONLY, THE ONLY THING THAT I SEE THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN I'VE SEEN WITH SOME OTHER CITIES, AND I'D LOVE THOUGHTS ON IT, BUT I DON'T NECESSARILY FEEL SUPER STRONGLY ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. THE CONCEPT OF THE POSTHUMOUS WHEN IT COMES TO NAMING ROADS AND BUILDINGS AND THAT SORT OF THING. YOU KNOW, A LOT OF CITIES USUALLY WAIT UNTIL SOMEONE HAS PASSED ON. SO THERE'S ALMOST THIS POSSIBILITY THAT THE KEY TO THE CITY IS SOMETHING THAT YOU GET WHILE YOU'RE ALIVE. AND POTENTIALLY THE THE NAMING OF SOMETHING MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS AFTER, AFTER YOUR DEATH. BUT I'D BE I'D LOVE TO HEAR. YES, COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE. I THINK ORDINARILY THAT'S TRUE. I MEAN, AGAIN, I THINK IT'S THE PARKS, IT'S SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT, BUT LIKE KEPLER BALL FIELDS, RIGHT? WHEN YOU HAVE SOMEONE WHO'S HAD AN INCREDIBLE TENURE IN THE CITY, WHO'S STILL LIVING AND DESERVES AN HONOR LIKE THAT. SO I THINK THAT I LIKE THE WAY THAT IT'S WRITTEN WHERE IT'S USUALLY POSTHUMOUS. BUT IF YOU'VE HAD SOMEONE WITH A SIGNIFICANT TENURE, THEN YOU CAN STILL RECOGNIZE THEM AS WELL. SO I LIKE HOW IT'S, IT'S WRITTEN THERE. OKAY.

COUNCILMEMBER. YEAH, I LIKE THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN. SO NOTHING WRONG TO LEAVE LONGER. SO YEAH.

ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER THOUGHTS OR ANY OTHER ADDITIONS WE WANT TO MAKE TO ANY OF THIS THOUGHT PROCESS. REALLY? OH YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. I DON'T WANT TO KEEP I DON'T WANT I DON'T WANT TO DRAG IT OUT. I JUST IT'S JUST A THOUGHT WHEN WHEN SOMETHING IS SUGGESTED FOR NAMING ARE, I MEAN, I GUESS EACH PIECE OF THAT COULD, COULD EVENTUALLY BE A DIFFERENT COST DEPENDING ON WHAT IT IS. CORRECT. IF WE'RE GOING TO USE SIGNAGE ON A BUILDING, WHICH THAT DEPENDS ON SIZE, IS IT GOING TO BE LIT? I MEAN, HOW ARE WE GOING TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS OR STAFF GOING TO. WE'LL PROVIDE YOU WE'LL PROVIDE THE COUNCIL THAT INFORMATION SO THAT YOU CAN TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN YOU'RE KIND OF DECIDING ON IF THIS, YOU KNOW, THE APPROPRIATE WHETHER THE NAMING IS APPROPRIATE AS WELL AS THE STRATEGY. SO WE'LL PROVIDE THAT ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS. WELL, ANOTHER POINT TOO IS, AS I WAS MENTIONING, NOT TO POTENTIALLY TAKE AWAY, YOU KNOW, NAMES THAT HAVE BEEN AROUND, YOU KNOW, SINCE DAY ONE OR, OR HAVE SIGNIFICANT BALANCE FOR THE CITY IS, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY THAT COULD BE A SIGN TOP OR TWO, BUT THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED NAMING. BUT WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO CHANGE THE NAME OF THE STREET. WE'RE NOT GOING TO CHANGE CAMPBELL, YOU KNOW, CAMPBELL

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ROAD OR SOMETHING TO SOMETHING ELSE. BUT WE COULD POTENTIALLY APPLY SIGN TOPPERS THROUGHOUT THE CITY OR SOME TYPE OF INTEGRATED SIGNAGE THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY ALSO PROVIDE THAT TYPE OF ELEMENT. YEAH, I IMAGINE SIX OUT OF SEVEN COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL MAKE THAT DECISION OF HOW THEY WANT TO DESIGNATE SOMETHING, AND THEY'LL JUST WANT TO THROW OUT THE SUGGESTIONS WHILE WE'RE KIND OF FIGURING IT OUT. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER. THE, THE ONLY ADDED THAT I, I JUST THOUGHT WHEN COUNCILMAN DORIAN MENTIONED IS IF WE END UP WITH, YOU KNOW, SHOULD WE LIMIT HOW MANY BUILDINGS AND OR THINGS SHOULD BE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE KEPLER FIELDS IF WE DECIDE TO MAKE CAMPBELL KEPLER BOULEVARD OR, YOU KNOW, DO WE WANT SO MANY KEPLER'S IN THE CITY. I MEAN, NOTHING AGAINST KEPLER. IF HE'S WATCHING FROM HOME TONIGHT, BUT I'M JUST USING AN EXAMPLE AS IT WAS BROUGHT UP. BUT, YOU KNOW, DO WE WANT THAT? PROBABLY NOT. SO I WONDER IF WE SHOULD ADD A BULLET POINT IN THERE SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, LIMITED TO ONE BUILDING, ONE ROAD OR HOWEVER, I DON'T KNOW, SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. SO WE DON'T END UP WITH A LOT OF STUFF WITH ONE PERSON'S NAME ON IT. YEAH, I. I THINK IT'S UP TO THE COUNCIL. I, I, I JUST LOOK AT IT AS WE'VE GOT SIX OUT OF SEVEN THAT WILL HAVE TO AGREE.

AND SOMETHING TELLS ME THAT AS SOON AS A SECOND THING IS BEING PROPOSED FOR THE SAME PERSON, EITHER THEY'LL BE A RENAMING OF THE FIRST OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IT ALREADY SAYS AVOID DUPLICATION UP THERE. OH, THERE WE GO. DONE, DONE AND DONE. ALL RIGHT. I THINK WE ARE MOVING FORWARD ON THAT ONE. AND THERE'S NO MAJOR REDESIGN REQUIRED. LOVELY. OKAY. WOW.

[F. REPORT ON ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST ]

REPORTING ON ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST COUNCIL COUNCILMAN DORIAN THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR. I'LL JUST I'LL LEAVE SOME ON THE TABLE FOR EVERYONE ELSE, BUT I WANT TO CALL OUT THREE THINGS. ONE, WE HAD A VERY SUCCESSFUL CULTURAL ARTS MEETING LAST WEEK. IT WAS VERY NICE. IT IT WAS IN INCORPORATING AND, AND SELECTION OF THE ARTWORK AND WRAP FOR THE ELECTRICAL BOXES. SO THAT WAS VERY FUN. AND THEY DID SUCH AN INCREDIBLE JOB. SO I JUST WANT TO DO A SHOUT OUT TO THEM, TO OUR CULTURAL ARTS. MIKAELA TO WE CELEBRATED THE RETIREMENT OF DEBBIE RETERA FROM THE RISD BOARD OF TRUSTEES. SO THAT WAS A VERY NICE EVENT.

AND I KNOW SHE WAS EXTREMELY HAPPY FOR THAT PARTICIPATION, PARTICIPATION. AND THEN OF COURSE, LAST BUT NOT LEAST, WE HAD WILDFLOWER THIS WEEKEND AND THE WEATHER WAS BEAUTIFUL. I THINK WE HAD AN EXCELLENT TURNOUT. AND IT WAS I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST REALLY ONE OF THE BETTER ONES THAT WE'VE HAD. THANK YOU. MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHENRIDER. THANK YOU MAYOR DITTO ON ON THE WILDFLOWER FESTIVAL. AND I JUST WANT TO SAY, IF YOU DIDN'T STICK AROUND FOR THE SUNDAY EVENING BAG OF DONUTS, YOU MISSED SOMETHING INCREDIBLE. I JUST WILL SAY THAT. BUT THE SECOND THING IS, IS I, I WAS VERY YEAH, IT'S A BAND. YES. WASN'T JUST A BAG OF DONUTS I GOT TO EAT. YEAH. THAT'S A GOOD POINT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REPRESENT THE CITY ON THE COLLIN COLLEGE. THEY'RE CALLING IT THE COMMITTEE OF 100 MASTER PLAN STEERING COMMITTEE AND THE WORK. AND AGAIN, REMEMBERING THAT ONE THIRD OF OUR CITY SITS IN COLLIN COUNTY AND COLLIN COLLEGES, THE COLLEGE THAT'S RESPONSIBLE FOR IT, THE WORK THAT IS BEING DONE, THE WORK THAT IS BEING PROPOSED, THE SERVICES, THE. THE VARIOUS PROGRAMS THAT THEY'VE PUT TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL THAT THEY'VE TALKED ABOUT, THEY'RE WORKING WITH UNT, THEY'RE WORKING WITH UTD, THEY'RE WORKING WITH TEXAS A&M. THERE'S JUST TREMENDOUS NUMBER OF PROGRAMS THAT THEY HAVE PUT TOGETHER. AND THEY'RE ALSO PLANNING ON TO BRING ABOUT OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS. AND THAT WAS A MEETING THAT LASTED FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS. THERE'S TWO MORE MEETINGS COMING UP THAT I'VE BEEN INVITED TO, AND SO JUST WANTED TO REPORT OUT ON THAT, THAT JUST REALLY, REALLY PROUD OF WHAT THE COLLIN COLLEGE IS DOING. YOU CAN NOW GO AND RECEIVE FIVE DIFFERENT BACHELOR'S DEGREES IN AT COLLIN COLLEGE AT, AT VERY, VERY, VERY INEXPENSIVE RATES AS COMPARED TO A STANDARD FOUR YEAR UNIVERSITY. SO I JUST PUT THAT OUT THERE FOR THE RESIDENTS OF COLLIN COLLEGE OR SORRY, COLLIN COUNTY WHO CAN GO TO COLLIN COLLEGE. ALTHOUGH IF YOU'RE NOT IN COLLIN COUNTY, YOU STILL CAN GO TO COLLIN COLLEGE. YOU CAN GO TO ANY ONE OF THE COMMUNITY COLLEGES. SO I WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT AS WELL. SO ANYWAY, THANK YOU. OF COURSE, COUNCILMAN GRIFFIN. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WELL, I WOULD I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE VOLUNTEERS, FIRST RESPONDERS, POLICE, FIRE AND CITY STAFF FOR AND ESPECIALLY OUR CITY MANAGER, DON MAGNER, TO KEEP THE TEMPERATURE AND THE WEATHER PERFECT. SO EVERYTHING WENT

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REALLY, REALLY GOOD. AND IT'S JUST NOT JUST HAPPENED BECAUSE OF ACCIDENT. THIS WAS ALL PLANNED. AND ESPECIALLY OTHER THAN THE WEATHER, WHICH IS EVEN THOUGH I'D LIKE TO GIVE ALL THE CREDIT TO DON, BUT THERE IS SOMEONE ABOVE THAT WHO CONTROLS THAT ONE. SO THANKS TO GOD ALSO.

SO EVERYTHING WENT PRETTY GOOD. AND ALSO, I SHOULD HAVE SAID THIS THING WHEN THEY WERE HERE, OUR PUBLIC WORKS STAFF. BUT I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO PERSONALLY THANK OUR PUBLIC WORKS STAFF FOR EVERYTHING THEY DO FOR OUR COMMUNITY. THEIR WORK MAY OFTEN HAPPEN BEHIND THE SCENES, BUT RESIDENTS BENEFIT IT EVERY SINGLE DAY, FROM SAFE STREETS AND DRAINAGE SYSTEM TO RELIABLE WATER AND INFRASTRUCTURE SERVICES. WE TRULY APPRECIATE THEIR HARD WORK, DEDICATION AND COMMITMENT TO SERVING THE CITY OF RICHARDSON. THANK YOU EVERYONE THAT THEY DO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN COUNCIL MEMBER BARRIOS. THANK YOU. MAYOR. LAST WEEK WE HAD A LIBRARY BOARD MEETING. SO IT WAS WE GOT AN UPDATE ON THE RENOVATION OF THE LIBRARY. AND IT'S LOOKING BETTER AND BETTER BY THE DAY. AND SO GREAT JOB.

JENNY AND HER ENTIRE STAFF AS THEY ARE GETTING EXCITED ABOUT MOVING IN SOON. AND AS THEY FINISH UP THAT THAT PROJECT, I KNOW IT'S BEEN A COUPLE OF YEARS IN WAITING AND EVERYBODY'S EXCITED ABOUT THAT. SO THIS SUMMER, THERE ARE A LOT OF GREAT PROGRAMS PLANNED FOR ADULTS AND KIDS OF ALL AGES. SO KEEP AN EYE OUT ON THE LIBRARY WEBSITE FOR ALL THE EXCITING THINGS THAT THEY HAVE PLANNED THIS SUMMER. AND DITTO EVERYTHING SAID ABOUT ABOUT WILDFLOWER AND THE AMOUNT OF VOLUNTEERS IT TAKES IS ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE. FROM VOLUNTEERS. THAT KIND OF FROM CORPORATE GROUPS TO CIVIC GROUPS. ROTARY LEADERSHIP, RICHARDSON. THERE'S SO MANY ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THE MANY, MANY VOLUNTEERS INVOLVED TO MAKING THAT EVENT A SUCCESS. AND IT'S ALWAYS GREAT TO GET OUT THERE AND SEE THEM, AND I APPRECIATE ALL THEIR DEDICATION AND STAFF. THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. DITTO. CONGRATULATIONS TO OUR SD TRUSTEE, DEBBIE RENTERIA ON ON HER LAST BOARD MEETING LAST WEEK. AND THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING SHE DID TO OUR FOR OUR COMMUNITY. AND THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING SHE DID TO BRING A VOICE TO TO MANY. AND SO SHE'S SHE'S BEEN A LONG TIME PARENT AND VOLUNTEER IN OUR COMMUNITY AND THEN WENT ON TO SERVE ON THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES. AND SHE'S MAY SHE ENJOY HER, I GUESS, RETIREMENT OF THE TRUSTEE BOARD. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO WORD THAT. AND LOOKING FORWARD, I WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL THE RCSD GRADUATES THAT WILL BE WALKING THE STAGE OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS. THEY'RE. MY SON IS A SENIOR, ALTHOUGH NOT IN RCSD, BUT MANY OF HIS FRIENDS AND KIDS HE GREW UP WITH. AND OUR FRIENDS KIDS WILL BE GRADUATING OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS, SO I PLAN ON ATTENDING SEVERAL GRADUATIONS. MAY THEY ALL HAVE A GREAT WEEK. MAYBE THEY HAVE GREAT CELEBRATIONS AND MAY THEY STAY SAFE AND WE WISH THEM ALL THE BEST. MAY THEY RETURN TO RICHARDSON SOMEDAY AND BRING BACK EVERYTHING THAT THEY GAINED FROM THEIR CONTINUED EDUCATION. AND IN PISD WILL BE GRADUATING NEXT NEXT WEEK. SO CONGRATULATIONS TO THEM AS WELL AS WE LOOK FORWARD. JUNE 1ST, I BELIEVE, IS OUR NEXT MEETING, AND I WILL BE MISSING THAT DUE TO SOME. SOME PREVIOUSLY SCHEDULED THINGS WITH MY CHURCH. SO I APOLOGIZE AHEAD OF TIME, BUT I WILL BE GONE ON SOME CHURCH BUSINESS THAT DAY. IS IT ALL RIGHT? I WILL JUST HIT ON A COUPLE THINGS. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE ELSE MENTIONED IT, BUT DEFINITELY WORTHY OF MENTIONING.

WE CELEBRATED THEIR 20TH ANNIVERSARY. I KNOW A NUMBER OF US WERE THERE FOR THAT. THEY DID A RIBBON CUTTING, WHICH SEEMS ODD AFTER 20 YEARS, BUT IT WAS STILL IN CELEBRATION OF OF THE THE SUCCESS THEY'VE HAD OVER THESE 20 YEARS. WE ALSO, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WAS BROUGHT UP, BUT IT WAS POLICE WEEK LAST WEEK AND WE DID HAVE THE PEACE OFFICER MEMORIAL DAY. A NUMBER OF US WERE A PART OF THAT RECOGNITION. TRULY AN AMAZINGLY SOLEMN OCCASION IN A MEANINGFUL ONE, AND JUST A GREAT WAY TO ACKNOWLEDGE THOSE THAT REALLY LAY IT ON THE LINE EVERY DAY FOR US. I DO WANT TO SAY IT WAS IT WAS REALLY INSPIRING TO WATCH THE BODY OF WORK BEING

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CELEBRATED BY TRUSTEE RENTERIA. IT JUST IT REALLY RAISES THE BAR AS IT RELATES TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU HOPE PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO SAY OR DEPICT YOU AS, AS HAVING DONE DURING YOUR TIME IN A POSITION. SHE REALLY DID A PHENOMENAL JOB. AND THEN LASTLY, I GOT AN OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AT UTD LAST WEEK THAT WERE HIGHLIGHTING THEIR CAPSTONE PROJECTS. IF YOU'RE A BUSINESS IN RICHARDSON AND YOU'VE GOT A LITTLE PROBLEM THAT YOU WOULDN'T MIND FIVE YOUNG MINDS TRYING TO SOLVE, IT WAS REALLY IMPRESSIVE TO SEE SOME OF THE DIFFERENT WORK THAT THAT THESE STUDENTS PUT TOGETHER. YOU HAD BUSINESS STUDENTS THAT HAD FULL ON CODING PROJECTS. NOW, THANKS TO AI, YOU CAN DO A LOT OF CODING WITHOUT KNOWING ANYTHING ABOUT CODING. AND SO BUSINESS STUDENTS WERE CODING UP ALL SORTS OF REALLY NEAT SOLUTIONS FOR PEOPLE WHO HAD BUSINESS PROBLEMS. JUST A COOL THING TO, TO SEE AND WITNESS AND A GREAT SERVICE THAT THE UNIVERSITY PROVIDES TO LOCAL BUSINESSES TO INTERACT WITH THEIR STUDENTS.

SO NOT SEEING ANYTHING ELSE AND WITH NO FURTHER BUSINESS. OH, I SHOULD SAY WE DID HAVE A COMMENT CARD COME IN THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ACKNOWLEDGE WE MISSED EARLIER KIND OF FELL THROUGH THE CRACKS. MR. MAGNER, YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK ABOUT IT? YES, SIR. THANK YOU.

MAYOR, I WANT TO EXTEND OUR APOLOGIES TO MISS LAURA MURRAY OF 927. SHE DID SUBMIT A COMMENT CARD REGARDING A STORAGE BUILDING, AN ACCESSORY BUILDING AT HER HOME, AND SOME PERMITTING CONSIDERATIONS. AND SO I WANT TO ASSURE MISS MURRAY THAT THE COUNCIL WILL BE HERE SHORTLY, PROVIDED A COPY OF THAT COMMENT CARD FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND FOR YOUR AWARENESS. THANK YOU, MR. MAGNER.

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