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GOOD MORNING. I CALL THIS MEETING OF THE RICHARDSON CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER AT 6 P.M. AT THIS TIME, I WOULD ASK COUNCIL MEMBER BARRIOS TO LEAD US IN THE INVOCATION AND PLEDGES.
COUNCIL MEMBER BARRIOS. THANK YOU. PLEASE JOIN ME IN PRAYER. DEAR GOD, WE ASK. WE THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO COME TOGETHER, TO MAKE DECISIONS, TO HAVE DELIBERATIONS AND DISCUSSIONS. WE ASK THAT WE COME WITH OPEN MINDS, OPEN HEARTS TO WHAT MAY BE BEST FOR THE CITY AT LARGE, NOT FOR 1 OR 2 PEOPLE, BUT FOR AN ENTIRE COMMUNITY. OUR HEART GOES OUT, LORD. TO THOSE WHO HAVE LOST LOVED ONES IN OUR CITY RECENTLY. WE JUST ASK FOR YOUR PEACE OVER US TONIGHT. IN YOUR PRECIOUS NAME I PRAY. AMEN. AMEN. PLEASE JOIN ME FOR THE PLEDGE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THE TEXAS FLAG.
HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE. TEXAS. ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER BARRIOS. WE WILL MOVE ON AT THIS TIME TO ITEM NUMBER THREE, WHICH ARE PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS AND VISITORS FORUM. MR. MAGNER, THANK YOU, MAYOR, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. WE ARE NOT IN RECEIPT OF ANY CARDS IN ADVANCE OF THE 4 P.M. DEADLINE, AND WE DO NOT HAVE ANYONE CURRENTLY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. OKAY. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT IS LOOKING TO SPEAK THAT DIDN'T SIGN UP? OKAY. SEEING NONE, WE WILL MOVE
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ON TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, WHICH IS THE CONSENT AGENDA. ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL MEMBER CORCORAN, I MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PUBLISHED. ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL MEMBER DORIAN, I'LL SECOND THAT. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER CORCORAN, A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER DORIAN.ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? WE COUNT THAT AS SIX. OR DO WE COUNT ONLINE AS WELL? YES, SIR.
OKAY. SO THAT THAT IS A SEVEN ZERO VOTE. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. GOOD TIME TO SAY FOR THOSE THAT CAN'T SEE IT THAT WE DO HAVE MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHENRIDER JOINING US REMOTELY THROUGH OUR REMOTE SYSTEM. SO GOOD TO SEE YOU. MAYOR PRO TEM. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE. ACTUALLY, BEFORE I MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE, I DO WANT TO JUST STATE FROM A PROCEDURAL PERSPECTIVE. GETTING AN OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF TRY TO MANAGE THE MEETING. I'M GOING TO ATTEMPT SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT NEW STARTING TODAY. AND WE'LL JUST ADJUST AS I KIND OF DESIRE TO ADJUST IT. BUT WE'RE GOING TO TRY AND DO ANY KIND OF Q&A BY COUNCIL MEMBERS WITHIN KIND OF A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME AS WE GET TO THE FIVE MINUTE KIND OF TOTAL TIME FRAME OF QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS HAPPENING. I'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SPEAKER, AND WE'LL JUST KIND OF KEEP ROTATING. THIS IN NO WAY WILL CURTAIL OR STOP ANY PARTICULAR COUNCIL MEMBER FROM ASKING, YOU KNOW, 47 QUESTIONS IF THAT'S WHAT THEY HAVE ON THEIR MIND. BUT IT WILL DO IS IT'LL MAKE THOSE 47 QUESTIONS PERHAPS BE BROKEN UP BY OTHER PEOPLE'S QUESTIONS ALONG THE WAY. NOT THAT I THINK WE'VE EVER HAD 47 QUESTIONS BY ANY INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBER, BUT
[5. REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT ]
THAT'S JUST AN EXAMPLE. SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE, WHICH IS REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT. MR. MAGNER, THANK YOU, MAYOR, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, VERY EXCITED TONIGHT TO HAVE JENNA COVINGTON, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND GENERAL MANAGER OF NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT, AS LONG AS WELL AS BRIAN BROOKS, WHO'S THE DIRECTOR OF EXECUTIVE AND BOARD SERVICES. AND OF COURSE, OUR TWO BOARD APPOINTEES, RANDY ROWLAND AND FRANKLIN BIRD. THIS IS ALWAYS AN IMPORTANT PART OF OUR BUDGET DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, A KEY BRIEFING THAT REALLY HELPS US PUT INTO CONTEXT SOME OF THE WHOLESALE COST IMPLICATIONS FOR OUR LOCAL BUDGET DEVELOPMENT. AND I JUST WANT TO THANK JENNA.SHE AND HER TEAM GAVE THE CITY MANAGER WORKING GROUP A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO JUST AN EXTREMELY THOROUGH BRIEFING. IT WAS VERY, VERY INSIGHTFUL, VERY HELPFUL. AND WHAT I SEE THAT JENNA HAS DONE HERE IS TAKEN A COUPLE OF EXCERPTS FROM THAT POWERPOINT PRESENTATION AND REALLY SUMMARIZED THAT THAT BRIEFING VERY, VERY EFFECTIVELY FOR YOU TONIGHT. SO, JENNA, THANK YOU AS ALWAYS, FOR BEING HERE. WE REALLY APPRECIATE OUR PARTNERSHIP. AND IF YOU'D LIKE TO PRESENT FROM THERE, THAT'S FINE. YEAH. OR THE PODIUM, WHICHEVER YOU PREFER. YEP. OKAY, GREAT. I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU FOR BRIEFING. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
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THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE. AS WAS MENTIONED, YOU ALL ARE IN THE MIDST OF YOUR ONGOING BUDGET DELIBERATIONS AND HAPPY TO PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT IS HONORED TO BE ABLE TO SERVE THE CITY OF RICHARDSON AS A MEMBER OF THE REGIONAL WATER SYSTEM, THE REGIONAL WASTEWATER SYSTEM, AND THE REGIONAL SOLID WASTE SYSTEM. I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO THANK BRIAN, DIRECTOR ROLAND AND DIRECTOR BIRD FOR JOINING ME HERE TODAY. ALL RIGHT. JUST REAL QUICK, A QUICK GLIMPSE AT WHO WE ARE. SO WE ARE A REGIONAL PROVIDER OF WATER, WASTEWATER AND SOLID WASTE SERVICES. OUR VISION IS REGIONAL SERVICE THROUGH UNITY MEETING OUR REGION'S NEEDS TODAY AND TOMORROW AND THE MISSION THAT WE WORK TO ACHIEVE EACH AND EVERY DAY IS TO DELIVER HIGH QUALITY AND DEPENDABLE SERVICES IN A COST EFFECTIVE MANNER. WE DELIVER THOSE SERVICES BY ACHIEVING FOUR STRATEGIC GOALS OF SERVICE, STEWARDSHIP, PARTNERSHIP AND PEOPLE IN ALIGNMENT WITH OUR CORE VALUES OF INTEGRITY, TRUST, RESPECT, UNITY, SAFETY, AND TEAMWORK. WE ARE IN A. OUR ORGANIZATION'S BIGGEST CHALLENGE IS KEEPING UP WITH THE TREMENDOUS GROWTH THAT WE'VE GOT HERE IN THE NORTH TEXAS REGION. NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT TODAY SERVES 2.4 MILLION NORTH TEXANS IN 13 MEMBER CITIES AND 36 DIRECT CUSTOMER CONNECTIONS, AND THIS IS ONE OF THE FASTEST GROWING AREAS OF THE UNITED STATES. AS I FOLLOW ALONG WITH MANY OF THE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING HERE IN THE CITY OF RICHARDSON, YOU ALL KNOW WHAT'S REALLY DRIVING THAT GROWTH IN YOUR LOCAL ECONOMY, AS IS HAPPENING ACROSS THE REGION. THERE'S TREMENDOUS JOB OPPORTUNITIES HERE IN THE NORTH TEXAS REGION. WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE A HIGH QUALITY OF LIFE. I'M THANKFUL TO BE RAISING MY FAMILY HERE IN THE REGION. WE'VE GOT A NUMBER OF BUSINESS FRIENDLY POLICIES, AND I SEE MANY ANNOUNCEMENTS OF THINGS COMING HERE TO THE CITY OF RICHARDSON, AND MANY OF THOSE POLICIES ARE IN PLACE HERE. YOU ALL ARE ALSO VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE A MAJOR UNIVERSITY HUB HERE IN THE CITY AND ACCESS TO TRANSPORTATION. SO THESE THINGS ARE DRIVING GROWTH WITHIN THE CITY AND ALSO ACROSS THE REGION AS A WHOLE. THE GRAPH ON THE RIGHT PROVIDES JUST A QUICK SNIPPET OF THE TREMENDOUS GROWTH THAT WE'VE GOT IN THE REGION AS A WHOLE.WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE GROWTH THAT'S PROJECTED BETWEEN NOW AND 2050 AND THE DFW AREA, YOU'RE SEEING THAT THERE'S A PROJECTION OF 3.7 MILLION PEOPLE TO BE ADDED TO OUR SERVICE POPULATION HERE IN DFW. THIS IS GREATER THAN THE INCREASE IN SERVICE POPULATION IN EVERY STATE OF THE UNITED STATES, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF FLORIDA. AND TEXAS IS STILL GROWING SUBSTANTIALLY MORE THAN THAT OF FLORIDA. IN ORDER TO DELIVER ON THE SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE TO THE CITY AND COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE REGION, THERE IS A SUBSTANTIAL REQUIREMENT FOR BUDGET. YOU ALL ARE IN THE MIDST OF YOUR BUDGET PROCESS. WE ARE AS WELL. THIS IS JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW OF OUR CURRENT FISCAL YEAR BUDGET. YOU CAN SEE ON THE LEFT THAT THE BIGGEST PIECE OF THE PIE IN TERMS OF OUR TOTAL BUDGET ALLOCATION IS FOR THE SERVICE OF WATER. IT MAKES UP 550 MILLION OF THE TOTAL $902 MILLION BUDGET FOR THE WATER DISTRICT AS A WHOLE. ADDITIONALLY, THE WASTEWATER SYSTEM COVERS ABOUT A THIRD, AND SOLID WASTE IS A SMALLER COMPONENT. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE WHAT THE CATEGORIES OF WHAT THE EXPENDITURES THAT OCCUR WITHIN THE WATER DISTRICT, SUBSTANTIALLY MORE THAN HALF OF THOSE EXPENDITURES ARE TO FUND THE CAPITAL INVESTMENT AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS REQUIRED TO BE ABLE TO DELIVER THE SERVICES TO RICHARDSON'S AND COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE REGION.
YOU CAN SEE THAT MORE THAN HALF, 492 MILLION OF THE FISCAL YEAR BUDGET IS ALLOCATED TO THAT CAPITAL INVESTMENT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF IS DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF THOSE PUBLIC RESOURCES WERE ENTRUSTED WITH OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD. TO SEEK STATE FUNDING IS A SIGNIFICANT PART OF HOW WE'RE FUNDING THE CAPITAL INVESTMENT ACROSS THE REGION. AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE CALL OUT BOX, WE'RE SAVING 22.6 MILLION IN FISCAL YEAR 26 THROUGH SEEKING THOSE, TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD FUNDS AND RECEIVING A SUBSIDIZED INTEREST RATE OVER WHAT IT WOULD BE IF WE JUST WENT TO THE MARKET ON OUR OWN. SO AS WE DELIVER OUR OUR SERVICES EACH AND EVERY DAY,
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WE'RE LOOKING FOR WAYS TO BE THE BEST STEWARDS OF THOSE FINANCIAL RESOURCES WE CAN. ONE THING THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT ABOUT OUR ORGANIZATION IS THE SHARE OF THE PERSONNEL COSTS. SO OFTEN IN ORGANIZATIONS, PERSONNEL IS THE LARGEST SHARE OF THE COST OF THE BUDGET. AND THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FOR OUR ORGANIZATION, WITH IT ONLY MAKING UP ABOUT 15% OF THE WHOLE. SO TRANSITIONING FROM THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR INTO THE OUTLOOK FOR FUTURE YEARS. I'D LIKE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT STRATEGIC FINANCIAL PLANS AND HOW WE GO ABOUT DEVELOPING THOSE. SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE DEVELOP ON AN ANNUAL BASIS TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE INFORMATION TO THE COMMUNITIES WE SERVE FOR EACH OF OUR OPERATING SYSTEMS, AND A PROJECTION OF WHAT WE ANTICIPATE OUR COST TO BE OVER THE TEN OVER A TEN YEAR HORIZON. SO WE BEGIN WITH OUR CURRENT FISCAL YEAR BUDGET AS A STARTING POINT, AND THEN WE ANALYZE EACH OF THE SYSTEMS THAT WE OPERATE. WE HAVE 21 OPERATIONAL SYSTEMS THAT VARIOUS COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE REGION PARTICIPATE IN. AND THEN WE'VE ALSO GOT SHARED SERVICES FOR ESSENTIALLY COMPONENTS OF OUR ORGANIZATION THAT ARE SHARED IN THOSE COSTS ACROSS THOSE DIFFERENT OPERATING SYSTEMS. WE LOOK IN DETAIL AT THE DEBT SERVICE AND THE FUTURE CAPITAL INVESTMENT THAT IS NEEDED TO BE ABLE TO DELIVER ON THOSE SERVICES. WE ALSO LOOK AT ANTICIPATED RATES OF INFLATION FOR OPERATING AND MAINTENANCE COSTS, AND ANY NEW FACILITIES THAT WILL BECOME OPERATIONAL OVER THAT PLANNING HORIZON, AND WHAT THE ANTICIPATED OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE IS, AS WELL AS A LOOK AT OUR RESERVE BALANCES AND MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ARE APPROPRIATE AND APPROPRIATE ALIGNMENT WITH OUR RESERVE POLICIES. WE THEN DO A REALLY DETAILED REVIEW BEGINNING AT AN EXECUTIVE TEAM LEVEL. THIS YEAR, WE ACTUALLY TOOK A LITTLE BIT OF A PAUSE ON MOVING PAST THAT EXECUTIVE TEAM REVIEW. SOME OF THE INITIAL RESULTS OF OUR STRATEGIC FINANCIAL PLANS. WE'RE SHOWING GREATER YEAR OVER YEAR INCREASES THAN STAFF FELT COMFORTABLE PUTTING FORWARD. SO WE TOOK A STEP BACK AND ACTUALLY MADE A NUMBER OF ADJUSTMENTS TO BE ABLE TO MINIMIZE THOSE YEAR OVER YEAR INCREASES. TO THE EXTENT THAT WAS PRACTICAL. UPON STAFF REVIEW, WE SHARE THAT INFORMATION WITH THE FINANCE COMMITTEE OF OUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS, OUR MEMBERS AND CUSTOMERS, AND THAT INFORMATION IS ALSO AVAILABLE ON OUR WEBSITE. AS DON TALKED ABOUT AS WE WERE KICKING OFF, THIS INFORMATION WAS SHARED WITH CITY MANAGERS JUST A FEW WEEKS BACK. WE ALSO HAD A FINANCE PARTNERING MEETING WHERE THE FINANCE LEADS OF EACH OF THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE SERVE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR DETAILED INFORMATION ABOUT THIS. SO AS I MENTIONED, WE HAVE 21 DIFFERENT OPERATING SYSTEMS. THE REGIONAL WATER SYSTEM MAKES UP THE BIGGEST OF THOSE BY A GOOD AMOUNT. EACH OF THE SYSTEMS THAT THE CITY PARTICIPATES ARE AVAILABLE ON OUR WEBSITE, AND WE CAN TALK IN MORE DETAIL OFFLINE IF YOU'D LIKE, ABOUT THOSE, BUT DID WANT TO JUST PROVIDE A QUICK GLIMPSE AT WHAT WE SAW IN TERMS OF THE REGIONAL WATER SYSTEM CONVEYED ON THIS SLIDE, YOU CAN SEE THAT OUR OUR CURRENT 2026 RATE IS $4.14, AND IT IS PROJECTED TO CONTINUE TO INCREASE OVER THE YEARS. AND WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT WHAT'S DRIVING THAT AND SOME OF THE SUBSEQUENT SLIDES WE HAVE WORKED. WE DO WORK REALLY HARD TO NOT HAVE SIGNIFICANT YEAR OVER YEAR CHANGES. SO THE CURRENT PROJECTIONS ARE SHOWN IN THE BLUE LINE, AND THE PRIOR YEAR OR LAST YEAR'S PROJECTIONS ARE SHOWN IN THE GREEN LINE. GENERALLY SEE THAT WE'RE IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED LAST YEAR, WHICH WE REALLY WORK HARD TO DO TO ASSIST THE CITIES IN THEIR RATE PROJECTIONS AND THE RATE STUDIES THAT THEY MAY HAVE ONGOING. A COUPLE OF NOTES.THERE IS A CALL OUT BOX ON THE GRAPH THAT INDICATES THE TRANSITION TO ROLLING. AVERAGE ANNUAL MINIMUM METHODOLOGY HAS BEEN INCORPORATED INTO THIS GRAPH, AS WELL AS THE NEW PREMIUM METHODOLOGY THAT WAS NEGOTIATED HERE JUST LAST YEAR. IT ASSUMES THAT THE NEW CONTRACT TEMPLATE HAS BEEN ADOPTED BY ALL THE CUSTOMERS. WE DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GOING TO OCCUR, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO WE DON'T ANTICIPATE IT WOULD HAVE A SUBSTANTIAL IMPACT ON THE PROJECTION ITSELF. ONE THING THAT I DID WANT TO CALL TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY IN DETAIL HERE ON THE GRAPH, IS WE HAVE HAD A CHANGE FOR THE WAY THAT THE VOLUMES THAT MEMBER CITIES ARE PURCHASING ARE CALCULATED. SINCE OUR NEW CONTRACT
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AMENDMENT THAT WENT INTO PLACE IN 2020. SO SINCE WATER YEAR 2021, RICHARDSON HAS ACTUALLY REDUCED ITS ANNUAL MINIMUM EACH YEAR, AND THE ANNUAL MINIMUM IS NOW 5.1% LOWER THAN IT WAS IN 2021. AND THAT'S THE THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT THE CITY WILL BE PURCHASING. AND IN THE CURRENT YEAR, THIS REDUCTION SAVE RICHARDSON APPROXIMATELY $2.3 MILLION IN WATER CHARGES. ALL RIGHT. SO THE BIGGEST DRIVER OF OUR COST IN COST OF SERVICE CHANGES OVER THE YEARS IS OUR CAPITAL INVESTMENT. SO THE PIE CHART ON THE LEFT KIND OF GIVES YOU A LITTLE BIT OF A GLANCE GLIMPSE AT OUR CURRENT CAPITAL PROJECTS. AND THEN TO THE RIGHT IS A BIT OF A FORECAST FOR WHAT WE'RE SEEING OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. SO AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE LEFT, WE'VE GOT 134 PROJECTS THAT ARE ONGOING, SIMILAR NUMBERS IN DESIGN AND UNDER CONSTRUCTION. THE TOTAL CONTRACT VALUE OF OPEN CONTRACTS IS CURRENTLY 3.95 BILLION. SO THERE IS A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF ONGOING CAPITAL INVESTMENT THAT'S HAPPENING. TO BE ABLE TO DELIVER ON OUR SERVICES IN IN THIS AREA. THE PIE CHART AT THE BOTTOM GIVES YOU A SENSE OF WHAT'S DRIVING THOSE PROJECTS. WHY ARE WE MAKING THAT INVESTMENT? AND TWO THIRDS OF THAT IS TO ACCOMMODATE GROWTH AND PEAK FLOW. SO GROWTH IS REALLY WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE.YOU'VE GOT ADDITIONAL WATER DEMANDS OR WASTEWATER SERVICE DEMANDS FOR AREAS THAT MAY NOT BE CURRENTLY SERVED. YOU ALSO MAY HAVE GREATER DENSITY OR CHANGE IN THE DEMANDS THAT ARE HAPPENING WITHIN EXISTING SPACES. ON THE PEAK FLOW SIDE OF THINGS, THIS IS TYPICALLY RELATED TO AGING INFRASTRUCTURE WITHIN THE REGION AS A WHOLE, AND AS ON THE WASTEWATER SIDE OF THINGS. AS INFRASTRUCTURE AGES, WE RECEIVE MORE AND MORE PEAK FLOWS THAT MUST BE TREATED, CONVEYED AND TREATED. AND SO THAT'S ALSO A SIGNIFICANT DRIVER FOR US. WE HAVE AROUND 28% OF THE CURRENT PROJECTS THAT ARE RELATED TO AGING INFRASTRUCTURE AND MAINTAINING THAT INFRASTRUCTURE. AND 6% ON THE REGULATORY SIDE, AS WE LOOK OUT FIVE YEARS, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE CONTINUES TO BE SUBSTANTIAL INVESTMENT THAT'S REQUIRED. SO YOU CAN SEE NEXT YEAR WE'RE LOOKING AT AROUND $1.5 BILLION OF INVESTMENT AND THEN SOMETHING LESS THAN THAT IN THE YEARS BEYOND THAT. THE BIGGEST PART OF THAT INVESTMENT CONTINUES TO BE IN THAT GROWTH PEAK FLOW CATEGORY, BUT ALSO CONTINUING TO TAKE CARE OF MAINTAINING AGING INFRASTRUCTURE AND REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS. WE'LL TALK SOME MORE ABOUT THE INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS THAT ARE DRIVING THAT, OR A FEW OF THOSE INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS IN THE NEXT SLIDES. SO A FEW LARGE PROJECTS IN EACH OF OUR MAJOR SYSTEMS, STARTING WITH THE REGIONAL WATER SYSTEM, WE HAVE AN ONGOING PROJECT TO EXPAND OR TO BE ABLE TO BUILD A NEW PUMP STATION, A PUMP STATION IN LAKE LAVON. THIS WILL ESSENTIALLY GIVE US ACCESS TO ADDITIONAL WATER IN LAVON THAT WE'RE NOT ABLE TO ACCESS DURING DROUGHT CONDITIONS AT THIS TIME. THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE KIND OF REFINEMENT THAT WE WENT THROUGH OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS TO, INSTEAD OF FUNDING ALL 619 MILLION OF THIS UPFRONT, WE BROKE THIS INTO A NUMBER OF WORK PACKAGES THAT WOULD BE AUTHORIZED OVER A NUMBER OF YEARS, SO THAT THE WORK WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO TAKE ON THAT FULL DEBT LOAD AND BUILD THAT INTO OUR RATES ALL AT ONE TIME. SO THIS RAW WATER PUMP STATION PROJECT, WE'RE BEGINNING WORK ON IT NOW, AND IT WILL BE COMPLETED IN FISCAL YEAR 31, WITH EIGHT WORK PACKAGES OCCURRING OVER A FOUR YEAR PERIOD. THE LEONARD WATER TREATMENT PLANT PHASE THREE PROJECT IS ANOTHER ONE THAT IS COMING UP. IT'S ONLY BEEN A FEW YEARS BACK THAT WE CUT THE RIBBON ON THE LEONARD WATER TREATMENT PLANT TO BE ABLE TO DELIVER WATER OUT OF OUR NEWEST RESERVOIR BOAT, PARK LAKE. THAT FACILITY HAS BEEN OPERATIONAL FOR ABOUT FOUR YEARS. WE CONSTRUCTION TO DOUBLE IN CAPACITY FROM 70 MILLION GALLONS A DAY TO 140, AND WE'RE PLANNING FOR MOVING IT UP TO 210 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY. WE HAVE WILL BE BEGINNING WORK ON THAT THIS NEXT YEAR, AND WE'LL BE DELIVERING THAT IN THREE WORK PACKAGES BETWEEN FISCAL YEAR 27 AND 30. THE FINAL WATER PROJECT THAT I'LL HIGHLIGHT HERE IS OUR WYLIE WATER TREATMENT PLANT BACKUP POWER IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT. THIS IS A REGULATORY DRIVEN PROJECT. AS YOU MAY RECALL, THERE WAS SOME POWER DISRUPTIONS THAT OCCURRED
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WITH WINTER STORM URI IN 2021. AS A RESULT, SENATE BILL THREE OF THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE REQUIRED THAT WE CONSTRUCT BACKUP POWER. WE WERE VERY THANKFUL DURING THAT WINTER STORM NOT TO HAVE DISRUPTION TO THE POWER TO OUR WATER PLANT, BUT WE ARE MAKING THIS INVESTMENT TO ALIGN WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF SENATE BILL THREE AND TO ENSURE THAT IF THERE IS A POWER OUTAGE THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO DELIVER WATER, THIS WILL BE DELIVERED BETWEEN FISCALEAR 27 AND 29 IN 5 WORK PACKAGES. I WANT TO FAST. I AM SORRY WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT WASTEWATER YET. ALL RIGHT, ON THE WASTEWATER SIDE OF THINGS, AND I'LL PROBABLY SPEED UP. I'M GIVING YOU ALL PROBABLY MORE DETAIL THAN YOU REALLY WANT.SISTER GROVE WATER RESOURCE RECOVERY FACILITY IS A NEW WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT THAT IS IN THE NORTHERN PART OF OUR SERVICE AREA. THIS WILL PROVIDE CAPACITY THAT WILL THEN FREE UP CAPACITY AT WILSON CREEK, THEREBY FREEING UP CAPACITY AT ROWLETT, ROWLETT CREEK TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE FOR ADDITIONAL GROWTH HAPPENING HERE IN THE RICHARDSON AREA AND BEYOND.
THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT PROJECT THAT IS ALREADY JUST BEGAN OPERATION. WE JUST CUT THE RIBBON ON THAT IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS AND IT'LL BE DOUBLING. IT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION TO DOUBLE NOW, AND WE'LL BE EXPANDING BEGINNING IN FISCAL YEAR 26. ADDITIONALLY, WE ARE LOOKING AT CONSTRUCTING A NEW WATER RESOURCE RECOVERY FACILITY IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF OUR SERVICE AREA DOWN AROUND MESQUITE, TO PROVIDE FOR THE GROWTH IN THAT REGION. AND THE ROWLETT CREEK REGIONAL WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT IS ALSO UNDERGOING EXPANSION FROM A PEAK FLOW STANDPOINT, NOT FROM AN AVERAGE FLOW STANDPOINT, TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THE ADDITIONAL PEAK FLOWS THAT ARE OCCURRING IN RICHARDSON AND PLANO ON THE UPPER EAST FORK INTERCEPTOR SIDE OF THINGS, WE'VE GOT A FEW LIFT STATIONS AND FORCE MAINS THAT ARE SHOWN THERE THAT WILL CONVEY WASTEWATER TO THE SISTER GROVE WATER RESOURCE RECOVERY FACILITY, AND IN THE REGIONAL SOLID WASTE SYSTEM, WE'RE CONSTRUCTING A NEW TRANSFER STATION IN FRISCO TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THE ADDITIONAL WASTE LOAD THAT'S COMING IN.
THIS WILL FREE UP SOME CAPACITY AT OUR OTHER TRANSFER STATIONS. HONING IN A LITTLE BIT ON A FEW RICHARDSON SPECIFIC PROJECTS IN THE REGIONAL WATER SYSTEM. THE FIRST TWO PROJECTS THERE ASSOCIATED WITH THE SHILOH PUMP STATION IMPROVEMENTS AND THE GROUND STORAGE TANK. THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT ACTUALLY, GROUND STORAGE TANKS THAT ARE BEING CONSTRUCTED AT THIS TIME TO ENSURE THAT SYSTEM PRESSURES REMAIN APPROPRIATE HERE IN THIS VICINITY. THE SHILOH PUMP STATIONS AT 190 AND WEST OF LOOKOUT AND THE SHILOH GROUND STORAGE TANK IS AT 190 AND CUSTER. ADDITIONALLY, WE'VE GOT SOME WORK GOING ON IN THE NORTH GARLAND SYSTEM NOT TOO FAR FROM HERE, AND THE PLANO WESTSIDE PIPELINE THAT WE'VE PARTNERED WITH YOU ALL TO CONSTRUCT. ON THE REGIONAL WASTEWATER SIDE OF THINGS, WE HAVE SOME CONDITION BASED LIFT STATION IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE UPCOMING AND ONGOING. AND ADDITIONALLY, AT THE FLOYD BRANCH WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, THAT'S A WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT THAT SERVES ONLY THE CITY OF RICHARDSON.
WE'VE GOT SOME PEAK FLOW IMPROVEMENTS THERE TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE THOSE PEAK FLOW CONDITIONS. ON THE SOLID WASTE SIDE OF THINGS, THE TRANSFER, THE PARKWAY TRANSFER STATION IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION TO CONVERT THAT TO A TOP LOAD FACILITY, TO INCREASE EFFICIENCIES AND ALLOW FOR MORE EFFICIENT OPERATION. I DID WANT TO TAKE A MINUTE TO TALK ABOUT A REALLY IMPORTANT PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE PUT IN PLACE, AND THAT'S OUR LINEAR ASSET MANAGEMENT PROGRAM, OR LAMP, WHICH IS REALLY DOING A COUPLE OF THINGS. IT'S REDUCING WATER LOSS AND ALSO ENSURING THE RELIABILITY OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. WE PUT THIS PROGRAM IN PLACE FOLLOWING A MAJOR EVENT THAT HAPPENED IN 2018, AND ARE VERY PROUD OF THE, THE, THE WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE TO ENSURE THAT WE'VE GOT RELIABLE INFRASTRUCTURE UNDERGROUND. THIS REALLY IS A GREAT WAY TO PRIORITIZE REPAIRS AND REDUCE WATER LOSS. AND IT REDUCES REDUCES INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS BY ENABLING TARGETED REPAIRS OF AGING WATER LINES.
INSTEAD OF REPLACING THE LINE IN WHOLE. WE'VE HAD A MAJOR REPAIR HERE IN THE CITY OF RICHARDSON JUST IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS, AND THAT WAS ON THE NORTH GARLAND 72 INCH WATER
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LINE. WE IDENTIFIED A SECTION OF THE 72 INCH WATER LINE THAT REQUIRED REHABILITATION. THAT PIPE IS AROUND 45 YEARS OLD, AND IT'S IN THE WINDSOR ESTATE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THAT PIPELINE WAS REPAIRED WITH A PROCESS THAT REINFORCED THE FROM THE INSIDE OF THE LINE WITH CARBON FIBER, AND THERE WAS NO EXCAVATION THAT WAS REQUIRED TO ACHIEVE THIS. THERE WAS TREMENDOUS WORK BY THE STAFF OF THE CITY OF RICHARDSON AND NORTH TEXAS TO REALLY PROACTIVELY COMMUNICATE WITH THE FOLKS IN THAT VICINITY ON THE WORK THAT WAS ONGOING.REALLY PROUD OF THE TEAM WORK THAT WE HAD THERE. A FEW EXAMPLES OF FOCUS ON STEWARDSHIP MADE MENTION JUST A MOMENT AGO, THE LINEAR ASSET MANAGEMENT PROGRAM ON THE WATER SIDE, AN EXAMPLE ON THE WASTEWATER SIDE IS AUTOMATING OUR CHEMICAL DOSING. THERE IS SOME EQUIPMENT THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO INSTALL AT A NUMBER OF FACILITIES THAT ESSENTIALLY USES MACHINE LEARNING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE WATER QUALITY IS WITHIN THE TREATMENT PROCESS, AND THEN OPTIMIZE THE CHEMICAL FEED TO OPTIMIZE THOSE COSTS. SO THIS HAS SAVED IN TERMS OF CHEMICAL PROCUREMENT. IT ALSO SAVES STAFF TIME AND LOWERS THE MAINTENANCE REQUIREMENTS OF UNIT PROCESSES DOWNSTREAM. ON THE SOLID WASTE SIDE OF THINGS, I'LL CALL OUT THE PARKWAY TRANSFER STATION CONVERSION. I MADE MENTION OF THAT A MOMENT AGO AS WELL.
WE'RE CONVERTING THAT TO A TOP LOAD OPERATION THAT WILL ALLOW FOR FASTER LOADING AND UNLOADING, AND ALSO PROVIDE FOR ADDITIONAL CAPACITY AT THAT FACILITY. THE THE WAY SOLID WASTE THAT IS CREATED HERE IN THE CITY OF RICHARDSON EITHER GOES TO THE THE PARKWAY TRANSFER STATION OR THE LOOKOUT TRANSFER STATION. AND SO THOSE BOTH PROVIDE SERVICE TO YOU ALL FOR THE MOST PART. ANOTHER ITEM THAT WE'VE BEEN REALLY PROUD OF IS HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION IRRIGATION EVALUATION PROGRAM. AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE CITY HAS PARTNERED WITH THE WATER DISTRICT IN IMPLEMENTING THIS ON A PILOT BASIS. WE ESSENTIALLY HAVE IRRIGATION EXPERTS WHO EVALUATE AND RECOMMEND IMPROVEMENTS TO HOA IRRIGATION SYSTEMS. IN THIS PILOT PROGRAM, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO IDENTIFY A 67% REDUCTION IN WATER USE, AND WE'RE CURRENTLY GOING THROUGH WE'VE HAD GREAT SUCCESS THROUGH THE PILOT AND GOING THROUGH AN RFP PROCESS CURRENTLY TO BE ABLE TO EXPAND THAT PROGRAM. SO BEING GOOD STEWARDS OF FINANCIAL RESOURCES AND ALSO OUR OUR VERY LIMITED WATER RESOURCES, SOME OF THE, THE PILOT PROGRAM, WE ESTIMATE THAT THERE'S AROUND POTENTIALLY A 67% REDUCTION IN THE WATER THAT'S USED THROUGH THE PILOT PROGRAM FOR IRRIGATION. IF THOSE SYSTEMS WERE OPTIMIZED. ALL RIGHT. SO WRAPPING UP, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO STAY INFORMED ABOUT THE WORK THAT IS GOING ON WITHIN NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT, THERE'S A QR CODE THAT YOU CAN SCAN TO JOIN OUR MAILING LIST. WE'D LOVE TO TO HAVE YOU ALL AS SUBSCRIBERS. I ALSO WANTED TO CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO THE LITTLE EXCERPT ON THE RIGHT. WE WERE VERY HONORED TO STAND ALONGSIDE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE CITY OF RICHARDSON, AS WELL AS A NUMBER OF OTHER COMMUNITIES IN RECEIPT. JUST IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS OF THE MIKE EASTLAND REGIONAL COOPERATION AWARD FROM THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS. THAT WAS A TREMENDOUS PROCESS WHERE OUR MEMBER CITIES, INCLUDING DON AND A NUMBER OF CUSTOMER CITIES, CAME TOGETHER TO REALLY TACKLE A REALLY DIFFICULT PROBLEM AND FIGURING OUT HOW DO WE MOST APPROPRIATELY CHARGE A PREMIUM FOR WATER FOR CUSTOMERS. AND IT WAS REALLY AN ENCOURAGEMENT TO SEE HOW THE VARIOUS STAKEHOLDERS COULD COME FORWARD, OFFER THEIR INSIGHTS, OFFER THEIR PERSPECTIVES, AND FIND A WAY FORWARD THAT WAS AGREEABLE TO ALL PARTIES. SO TREMENDOUS COOPERATION AND THANKFUL FOR THE ROLE OF THE CITY OF RICHARDSON AND THE OTHER COMMUNITIES, AND FINDING A WAY FORWARD IN A COOPERATIVE FASHION. THAT CONCLUDES MY REMARKS. I'M OPEN FOR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, MISS COVINGTON, COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU, MISS COVINGTON. FIRST, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THIS PRESENTATION. I THINK IT SORT OF GOT TO THE HEART OF SORT OF THE NUMBERS YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT AND SOME OF THE STUFF THAT'S DRIVING THE NUMBERS YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT.
I REALLY LIKED THE FORMAT OF THE PRESENTATION. YOU KNOW, SOME OF US HAVE BEEN SERVING FOR A LITTLE WHILE AND KNOW THE HISTORY. AND SO I'M GLAD YOU JUST SORT OF DOVE RIGHT IN. I LIKED THAT FORMAT, AND YOU ENDED WHERE I WANTED TO PICK UP, WHICH WAS TO THANK YOU FOR
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NOMINATING ALL THE CITIES AND CUSTOMERS, THE MEMBERS AND THE CUSTOMERS FOR THAT AWARD. I KNOW THAT YOU DID THAT, AND I APPRECIATE THE RECOGNITION OF THE WORK THAT WENT INTO THAT.SO THANK YOU FOR FOR MAKING THAT NOMINATION. A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ON SLIDE SIX. LET'S SEE, THAT'S THE LINE GRAPH YOU HAD MENTIONED THERE, THE CALL OUT BOX ABOUT CUSTOMERS COMING ONLINE, AND THEN THE ROLLING AVERAGES TAKING PLACE IN 29. I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THE PERCENTAGES THERE, BECAUSE THE PRIOR PERCENTAGE FOR 29 WAS 7%, AND THEN IT GOES UP TO 12%, BUT THEN IT FLIPS AND GOES DOWN IN 30. I'M CURIOUS IF THE CUSTOMERS ARE COMING ONLINE AND THE ROLLING AVERAGES ARE STARTING, WHY IT'S GOING UP IN 29, AND MAYBE IT'S TAKING EFFECT IN 30 BECAUSE THEY'RE COMING ON IN 29. PERHAPS THAT'S WHY. YEAH, THE, THE BIG DRIVER FOR THE YEAR OVER YEAR CHANGES IS MORE SO THE CAPITAL PROGRAM AND WHAT PROJECTS ARE HITTING IN THOSE YEARS AND THE DEBT ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE PROJECTS. SO THE WE DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE PLANS TO SERVE ANY ADDITIONAL CUSTOMERS AT THIS TIME. SO WHAT WOULD BE CHANGING IS THE ADOPTION OF THE UPDATED CUSTOMER CONTRACT TEMPLATE THAT CLEARLY ARTICULATES WHAT THE PREMIUM COMPONENT WOULD BE FOR THE WATER, BUT THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO HAVE A SUBSTANTIVE IMPACT ON ON THE YEAR OVER YEAR INCREASE. OKAY. THAT'S HELPFUL. I WAS WONDERING IF THAT CALL OUT BOX WENT TO THE NUMBERS. IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE IT. IT WAS JUST THAT'S HELPFUL. SO IT'S THE CAPITAL STUFF. THAT'S CAPITAL PROJECTS. THAT'S THAT'S LEADING TOWARDS THE PERCENTAGE. OKAY. QUESTION ON SLIDES EIGHT AND NINE, THE KEY DISTRICT PROJECTS AND THE RICHARDSON PROJECTS HIGHLIGHTS SLIDES ARE THERE. AND YOU PROBABLY THERE'S A LOT OF BULLET POINTS HERE. SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER FOR ALL OF THEM. BUT I WOULD BE CURIOUS TO KNOW WHAT THE TIMELINES ARE FOR, FOR THOSE. SO I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING YOU CAN GET US AFTERWARDS IF YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW ANY OF THEM OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD. SOME OF THESE MAY BE COMPLETE OR THEY COULD BE FOUR YEARS FROM NOW OR SOMETHING. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT. AND AGAIN, YOU CAN GET THAT INFORMATION TO US AT THE END. YEAH. THESE ARE REALLY THE KEY PROJECTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE STRATEGIC FINANCIAL PLAN, WHICH IS LOOKING AT A LONG TERM FORECAST. A MAJORITY OF THE ONES THAT ARE SHOWN ARE TO WRAP UP IN 2029 TO 32, FISCAL YEAR 32. SO IT'S OVER OVER A NUMBER OF YEARS THAT THOSE WOULD BE OCCURRING. THE ONES THAT WERE SHOWN AS RICHARDSON PROJECTS ARE ONES THAT ARE MORE ACTIVELY ONGOING AT THIS TIME. SO THOSE ARE A LITTLE BIT SHORTER OF A TIME PERIOD. YEAH. I MEAN, I WOULD BE CURIOUS JUST AFTERWARDS IF YOU COULD JUST GET DONE TO THE BEST OF YOUR KNOWLEDGE, WHERE THAT FALLS IN THE TIMELINE FOR EACH OF THOSE SLIDES, THAT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE. AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION, I THINK YOU PROBABLY ANTICIPATE IT BECAUSE I ASKED IT TO YOU EVERY TIME YOU'RE HERE. BUT WHAT ABOUT NEW WATER SOURCES? WHAT ABOUT 2036? CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT? YEAH. SO NEW WATER SOURCES IS SOMETHING THAT WE CONTINUE TO WORK VERY HARD TO IDENTIFY. WE ACTUALLY JUST CONTRACTED FOR AN UPDATE, A FIVE YEAR UPDATE TO OUR LONG RANGE WATER SUPPLY PLAN. AND SO WE'LL BE KICKING THAT OFF HERE IN THE COMING MONTHS. THERE'S A NUMBER OF STRATEGIES THAT WE'LL CONTINUE TO EVALUATE AND ONGOING DISCUSSIONS TO BE ABLE TO CONSIDER IF SOME OF THOSE CAN COME TO FRUITION. SOME OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT WE'VE GOT GOING ON RIGHT NOW TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO MEET THE LONG TERM NEEDS, IS MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE MAKING OPTIMAL USE OF OUR EXISTING RESOURCES. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, THE LEONARD WATER TREATMENT PLANT THAT WAS SPOKEN ABOUT THE NEXT COUPLE OF PHASES OF THAT ARE RELATED TO FULLY UTILIZING A ROTOR LAKE PERMITTED WATER. ADDITIONALLY, WE'VE GOT THE FINAL PHASE OF THAT IS BRINGING ADDITIONAL TEXOMA WATER, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT MORE SALTY TO THE LEONARD WATER TREATMENT PLANT, TO BE ABLE TO BLEND THAT WATER AND PROVIDE FOR THAT ADDITIONAL CAPACITY. ADDITIONALLY, THE LOWER INTAKE IN LAKE LAVON IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ACTIVELY WORKING ON AT THIS TIME. SO THERE'S A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT ARE IN THE QUEUE THAT ARE UNDERWAY. AND THEN BEYOND THAT, WE'LL CONTINUE TO IDENTIFY WHAT, WHAT, WHAT THOSE NEXT STEPS WILL BE. WONDERFUL. THANK YOU. MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHENRIDER. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION. JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION. I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THE 72 INCH LINE THAT YOU'VE NOW HAD TO REPAIR IN THE I BELIEVE YOU SAID WYNDHAM ESTATES. BUT WE ALSO HAD THE 60 INCH LINE THAT FAILED APPROXIMATELY 60 DAYS AGO THAT WAS THERE AT NORTH STAR, JUST DOWN FROM BRECKENRIDGE. CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE ONGOING MAINTENANCE AND CHECKING THAT YOU'RE DOING? BECAUSE I STILL HAVE CONCERNS THAT WE STILL HAVE THESE TYPE OF FAILURES. AND IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, I BELIEVE THE 60 INCH LINE ACTUALLY WAS THE IT WAS
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NEIGHBORS THAT ACTUALLY SAW THE LEAK FIRST NOTIFIED THE CITY AND THE CITY NOTIFIED NORTH TEXAS. SO JUST WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT MORE ON, ON THAT PROCESS. YEAH, WE DID RECEIVE NOTICE OF THAT THROUGH CITY STAFF, WHICH WE APPRECIATE THAT NOTIFICATION. THE AS I UNDERSTAND IT AND I DON'T HAVE. I'M VERY THANKFUL FOR A VERY QUALIFIED GROUP OF FOLKS THAT REALLY DELIVER ON THIS EACH AND EVERY DAY. MY UNDERSTANDING IS WHEN THEY REALLY GOT TO INVESTIGATING THE PARTICULARS OF THAT, THERE WAS A 32 INCH MANWAY THAT ACTUALLY HAD HAD IS WHERE THE LEAK WAS OCCURRING, AND THE TYPE OF PIPE MATERIAL THAT THAT IS CONSTRUCTED OF IS NOT THE TYPE OF TYPE PIPE MATERIAL THAT CAN EXPERIENCE THE CATASTROPHIC FAILURES LIKE WE EXPERIENCED ON THE 72 INCH LINE. SO WE APPRECIATE THE THE STAFF OF THE CITY OF RICHARDSON BRINGING THAT TO OUR ATTENTION. I THINK WITHIN A WEEK OR SO, WE WERE ABLE TO GET THAT FULLY BACK RESTORED. IT DID TAKE A FEW DAYS TO ACTUALLY IDENTIFY WHERE IT WAS COMING FROM, BUT THANKFULLY IT WAS A PRETTY SMALL LEAK IN OUR IN TERMS OF THE AMOUNT THAT WAS GOING ON AN ONGOING BASIS. AND WE WERE ABLE TO GET THAT DONE WITHOUT ANY SUBSTANTIAL IMPACT TO THE RESIDENTS OF THAT AREA. THANK YOU. WONDERFUL. COUNCIL MEMBER ARFIN THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.WELL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR VERY INFORMATIVE PRESENTATION. NOW AND BY THE WAY, AND THANK YOU FOR COMING, AND THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. NOW WE SLIDE NUMBER SIX THAT YOU HAVE. I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS JUST FOR UNDERSTANDING PURPOSE.
IT LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE PROJECTED LIKE UNTIL 2036, WHICH IS TEN YEAR GOOD PROJECTION, BUT THE RATE LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE DOUBLED. SO JUST TRYING TO SEE THAT WHEN CAN WE SEE THAT RATE NOT GOING UP LIKE THIS SLOPE. SO THAT'S WHAT MY GOAL. SO I'M GOING TO ASK YOU SOME QUESTION BECAUSE OF THAT. AND IF WE LOOK AT THE NEXT CHART SLIDE NUMBER SEVEN YOU HAVE THE GROWTH FACTOR. I SEE THERE ARE 66% PERCENT ON THE PIE CHART. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT ON THE TABLE, IT LOOKS LIKE I SEE THAT NEXT FIVE YEAR AT LEAST THE GROWTH AND PEAK FLOW IS TAKING BETWEEN 78% TO 84% OF THE BUDGET. YEAH. THE CHART ON THE LEFT IS REPRESENTING THE CURRENT CAPITAL PLAN. AND THE THE TABLE ON THE RIGHT IS A FIVE YEAR FORECAST. SO THOSE NUMBERS DON'T EXACTLY MATCH. YEAH. SO I DO UNDERSTAND NOW. NOW THE POINT IS THAT. AND YOU'RE NOT TAKING ANY MORE NEW CUSTOMER. CUSTOMER. THAT'S WHAT I HEARD RIGHT. WE DON'T HAVE ANY CURRENTLY PLANNED. OKAY. AND DOES THE PROJECTION INCLUDE SOME OF THE NEW CUSTOMER. NO.
THIS IS TO ACCOMMODATE THE THE GROWTH IN THE EXISTING WELL, THE GROWTH AND ALSO THE AGING INFRASTRUCTURE AND REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE COMING TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE THAT WE ALREADY SERVE. SO, YOU KNOW, NOW NOW THAT I SEE THAT YOU HAVE GROWTH IN ONE COLUMN, THEN YOU HAVE MAINTENANCE INFRASTRUCTURE, ANOTHER COLUMN. SO WHEN YOU SAY THE AGING, WHERE DOES THAT GO? IS THAT DOES THAT GO TO THE GROWTH OR IT GOES TO THE MAINTAINING? SO IF IT'S IS EXPANDING OUR CAPACITY, IT'S IN THAT GROWTH PEAK FLOW COLUMN. IF IT'S US IMPROVING OUR EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE, THEN IT IS IN THE MAINTAINING INFRASTRUCTURE COLUMN. SO THIS IS ALL JUST TO KEEP UP WITH THE PROJECTION OF GROWTH THAT WE HAVE. THE PROJECTION OF INCREASED FLOWS, WHETHER THEY BE GROWTH RELATED OR AGING INFRASTRUCTURE RELATED.
YEAH. OKAY. ANY IS THERE ANY BREAKEVEN NUMBER? I KNOW THAT THIS IS NOT JUST ONE FACTOR THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SAY BREAKEVEN FACTOR, WHAT COULD BE, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S WHEN WE'RE GOING TO SEE THAT THE RATE WILL BE STABILIZED. THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION. AND I WISH I COULD HAVE A GOOD ANSWER FOR YOU. WHAT WE ARE FOCUSED ON IS DELIVERING THE SERVICES THAT WE'RE WE NEED TO BE DELIVERING TO THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE SERVE AND A RELIABLE WAY. AND SO I DON'T HAVE A GOOD WE DON'T HAVE PROJECTIONS BEYOND THE TEN YEARS THAT THAT WOULD REFLECT THAT CONDITION. AND IT'S REALLY GOING TO BE DEPENDENT UPON THE WHAT HAPPENS IN OUR REGION FROM A NEEDS PERSPECTIVE, WHETHER IT BE FROM WHAT THE FLOWS ARE, WHAT THE FLOW DEMANDS ARE, OR
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AS OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, WE CONTINUE TO UNDERSTAND THE CONDITION OF IT AND REINVEST IN IT. THERE'S ALSO INCREASING REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE COMING. AND SO I DON'T HAVE A FORECAST FOR WHEN THAT WOULD STABILIZE. BUT WHATEVER REVENUES WE'RE COLLECTING FROM THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE SERVE ARE BEING REINVESTED INTO THESE SYSTEMS, AND WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO DO THAT. THE MOST COST EFFECTIVE WAY THAT WE CAN. WELL, THANKS FOR THAT CLEAR ANSWER ON THAT ONE. YEAH. NOW THIS IS OBSERVATION. LET ME SEE. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT? I MEAN, IF WE HAVE THE GROWTH IN CERTAIN AREA THAT'S ALREADY DEVELOPED VERSUS SOME AREAS THAT DON'T HAVE ANY, YOU KNOW, NOTHING, NO INFRASTRUCTURE, WHICH INCLUDES THE WATER LINE AND ALSO THE HIGHWAYS AND OTHER THINGS. SO YOU'RE PUTTING UP NEW, TOTALLY NEW THINGS FOR THE NEW GROWTH VERSUS UTILIZING EXISTING DEVELOPED AREA. IS THERE? I DON'T KNOW IF HOW TO PUT THAT QUESTION INTO QUICK TIME. DID YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY? THAT IS THAT DOES THE CUSTOMER ASK YOU ANY OPINION THAT THE DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO HAV GROWTH INTO SOME AREA? SO ARE YOU ASKING IF THEY IF COMMUNITIES CHECK WITH US TO ENSURE THAT CAPACITY IS AVAILABLE BEFORE DECIDING IF THEY GROW? IS THAT IS THAT THE QUESTION CAPACITY AVAILABLE OR THAT THE COST OF INSTALLATION OF THE NEW INFRASTRUCTURE. DO THEY ASK YOU ANY. BECAUSE I'M SURE THAT WE ARE PRETTY MUCH DEVELOPED HERE. SO WE DON'T HAVE THAT QUESTION FROM OUR AREA, OUR SIDE. BUT SOME OF THE OTHER CITIES MIGHT BE GROWING THAT THEY DON'T HAVE ANY, YOU KNOW, THE PROPER SIZED. YEAH. SO WE CHARGE THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE SERVE BASED ON OUR OUR CONTRACTS. AND SO THE CONTRACTS REALLY IDENTIFY THE APPROACH FOR HOW CAPITAL COSTS ARE ALLOCATED. AND SO WE FOLLOW THOSE CONTRACTS. I WOULD MENTION THAT THERE HAS BEEN SOME CAPACITY EXPANSIONS TO SERVE THE CITY OF RICHARDSON FOR BOTH WATER AND WASTEWATER SERVICES THAT HAVE OCCURRED IN THE PRIOR YEARS AND ARE ONGOING CURRENTLY. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER BARRIOS. THANK YOU. MAYOR, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. JUST ONE QUESTION. YOU ALL, A LOT LIKE US, ARE OBVIOUSLY FACING INCREASED COSTS, WHETHER IT'S MATERIAL COST OR OR LABOR. I THINK EVERY, EVERY ORGANIZATION IS FACING THAT WHAT LOOKING AT IT, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY THAT GOES INTO REPAIRING INFRASTRUCTURE. THEN OF COURSE, BUILDING OUT INFRASTRUCTURE. WHAT ARE YOU ALL LOOKING AT INTERNALLY AS FAR AS EFFICIENCIES, COST SAVINGS, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S REALIGNMENT WITHIN MANAGEMENT, YOU KNOW, CAN YOU TELL ME KIND OF SOME OF THOSE COST SAVING THINGS YOU'RE DOING INTERNALLY VERSUS JUST INCREASING RATES? BECAUSE I, I KNOW LIKE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME DISCUSSIONS LATER, PROBABLY NOT THE EASIEST OF DISCUSSIONS, BUT THEY'RE IMPORTANT DISCUSSIONS. AND I'M SURE YOU'VE HAD THOSE ALREADY. SO IF YOU CAN GIVE US SOME INSIGHT TO SOME OF THAT, WHAT'S HAPPENING INTERNALLY AS FAR AS PROCESSES OR EMPLOYEE GROWTH OR HOLDOVERS. AND SO WE CAN HAVE AN IDEA. THANK YOU. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. THAT WE RECOGNIZE THAT OUR COSTS ARE CONTINUING TO GO UP. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE VERY COGNIZANT OF. I MENTIONED THAT ONE OF THE FOUR GOALS OF OUR STRATEGIC PLAN IS STEWARDSHIP. AND SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR WAYS TO LIVE THAT OUT EACH AND EVERY DAY. THERE WAS A SLIDE THAT PROVIDED A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES OF HOW WE'RE MAKING ADJUSTMENTS TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE BEING GOOD FINANCIAL STEWARDS OF THE PUBLIC RESOURCES WERE ENTRUSTED WITH A COUPLE OF ADDITIONAL POINTS THAT I'LL MAKE. I MAY MENTION THAT WHEN WE DID OUR TEN YEAR FORECAST A FEW MONTHS AGO, AND IT GOT TO STAFF FOR REVIEW THAT WE SAID, HOLD ON, WE NEED TO TAKE A STEP BACK AND TAKE A REALLY HARD LOOK. AND WE DID THAT. SO THERE WERE SOME PROJECTS THAT HAD BEEN EARLIER IN OUR CAPITAL PLAN THAT WERE RIGHTSIZED, OR THE SIZE OF THE SCOPE OF THOSE PROJECTS WAS REDUCED. SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS, RATHER THAN WE CHANGED OUR FUNDING APPROACH TO, TO BE ABLE TO MINIMIZE THE IMPACTS BY RATHER THAN FUNDING ALL OF IT UP FRONT, BY BREAKING THOSE FUNDING PACKAGES INTO SMALLER PIECES. AND THERE ARE SOME PROJECTS THAT WE'VE JUST ELIMINATED SOME OF THE SCOPE ELEMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THEM AND THAT WE FOUND, WHILE THEY WOULD BE NICE TO DO, WE DIDN'T HAVE TO DO THEM RIGHT NOW. AND SO ACTUALLY THIS WEEK AT THE BOARD MEETING, I'LL BE BRIEFING THE BOARD ON A PROJECT. THEY'LL BE AUTHORIZING THAT WE'VE REDUCED THE SCOPE ELEMENT ASSOCIATED WITH IT, A PORTION OF IT TO TO MINIMIZE THAT[00:45:03]
IMPACT. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT WAYS THAT WE CAN DO WHAT WE CAN TO REDUCE THOSE IMPACTS. BUT WITH THE INCREASED DEMANDS UPON OUR SERVICES. AND THEN ALSO JUST THE ESCALATION THAT HAS HAPPENED WITHIN OUR ECONOMY, THEY THEY WILL CONTINUE TO GO UP. I KNOW YOU ALL ARE FACING THOSE SAME CHALLENGES, AND WE ALL HAVE TO MAKE THOSE HARD CALLS TO TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE AND PROVIDE FOR THOSE ESSENTIAL SERVICES TO, TO THOSE THAT WE SERVE. ALL RIGHT.COUNCILMEMBER, THANK YOU. JENNA, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. IT'S ALWAYS INFORMATIONAL, AND I APPRECIATE THAT. MY. I HAVE ONE QUESTION ON YOUR HOA IRRIGATION EVALUATION PROGRAM.
I KNOW YOU'RE CURRENTLY LOOKING FOR RFPS, AND IT SAYS HERE THAT THERE IS A 67% REDUCTION IN WATER USE. IS THAT FROM MAINLY COMMON AREAS FROM ALL THE NEIGHBORHOOD HOMEOWNERS? I MEAN, HOW, HOW, HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE AT THE MOMENT? YEAH. SO THERE WAS, I BELIEVE, LET'S SEE, 12, 14 DIFFERENT HOA'S THAT WERE EVALUATED AS PART OF THIS PILOT PROGRAM. AND IT WAS REALLY LOOKING AT THE SPACES THAT ARE MANAGED BY THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS AND HOW WATER IS USED WITHIN ESSENTIALLY THOSE COMMON AREAS. IT WAS NOT LOOKING AT THE INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNERS. THERE'S ANOTHER PILOT PROGRAM THAT WE'VE GOT ONGOING THAT RELATES TO LOOKING AT INDIVIDUAL RESIDENTS IRRIGATION, BUT THAT'S NOT THE ONE THAT I WAS SPEAKING TO IN THIS PULL OUT. SO WHAT WE ESTIMATED AMONGST THOSE HOAS WAS AN ESTIMATED SAVINGS OF 8.7 MILLION GALLONS OF WATER, REPRESENTING THAT 67% REDUCTION FOR THOSE COMMUNITIES. IT WAS A SAVINGS OF 57,650 ON WATER BILLS FOR A YEAR. AND SO WHAT WE HAVE FOUND IS HOA'S ARE ACTUALLY REALLY A GROUP THAT WE'VE BEEN VERY PLEASED TO BE WORKING WITH, AND THAT A LOT OF THESE IMPROVEMENTS PAY FOR THEMSELVES IN A MATTER OF A FEW MONTHS. IF THERE IS A WILLINGNESS TO MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS. AND HOAS ARE ALWAYS IN A HARD TIME TRYING TO MAKE BUDGETS TOO. AND SO IF WE CAN HELP THEM IDENTIFY WAYS TO ULTIMATELY SAVE MONEY AND, AND STILL PROVIDE TO THEIR RESIDENTS WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO PROVIDE, IT'S A WIN WIN. SO WE'VE BEEN VERY ENCOURAGED BY THE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE HOAS OVER THE LAST YEAR. AND WE'VE ACTUALLY ENTERED INTO A STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP WITH A GROUP CALLED HOA CONNECT THAT WE ARE WORKING WITH THIS YEAR TO PROVIDE INFORMATION TO VARIOUS HOAS ACROSS THE REGION AND EDUCATE THEM ON THE OPPORTUNITY THERE. SO WE'RE REALLY ENCOURAGED AND LOOK TO BE ABLE TO DO MORE OF THIS AS WE GO FORWARD. AND THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY NEXT QUESTION, HOW YOU'RE EDUCATING THEM AND WHAT WHAT ARE WHAT ARE THEY DOING TO PRESERVE THE REDUCTION OF THIS WATER? I MEAN, THERE ARE CERTAIN ARE THEY PUTTING IN MORE SUSTAINABLE SOFT SCAPING? IS IT JUST LANDSCAPE? IS IT CREATING NEW HEAD DISTRIBUTION OF WATER? I MEAN, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE KEY FACTORS THAT'S PULLING THIS TO 67%? YEAH. AND THEY'RE ALL UNIQUE AND THAT EACH, EACH COMMUNITY, THEY LOOK IN A GREAT LEVEL OF DETAIL. SO I HAVEN'T PUT MY EYES ON AN ACTUAL REPORT, BUT THERE ARE DOZENS OF PAGES LONG THAT GO INTO VERY SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS ON. WE FOUND LOCATIONS WHERE SPRINKLER HEADS ARE DAMAGED, AND THEY'RE JUST SENDING A STREAM OF WATER INTO THE AIR. WE HAVE FOUND LOCATIONS THAT ARE IRRIGATING ROCK, AND SO SOME OF THOSE HEADS COULD JUST BE REMOVED. SO THEY LOOK VERY LOOK AT A VERY DETAILED WAY AT WHAT'S HAPPENING WITHIN THAT INDIVIDUAL HOA'S LANDSCAPE AND FIND WAYS TO OPTIMIZE THEIR WATER USE. OH, GREAT. THANK YOU. SURE, COUNCILMEMBER JUSTICE, THANK YOU. BACK TO 2036, I THINK IT WAS LAST YEAR OR THE YEAR BEFORE I SAID THAT WE KIND OF THOUGHT IT WAS STILL 2036. WHERE ARE WE ON THAT? DO WE THINK THAT THAT'S BEING PUSHED OUT FURTHER BASED ON THE WORK THAT THE DISTRICT IS DOING, OR DO WE THINK WE MIGHT BE HITTING THAT THAT THRESHOLD SOONER? YEAH. SO WITH THE UPCOMING LONG RANGE WATER SUPPLY PLAN, THE VERY FIRST PHASE OF THAT IS TO TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT OUR PROJECTIONS, AND WE'LL BE WORKING WITH EACH OF THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE SERVE TO UNDERSTAND HOW MANY RESIDENTS THEY'RE SERVING NOW, HOW MANY BUSINESSES THEY'RE SERVING NOW, AND WHAT THEY ESTIMATE YEAR BY YEAR INTO THE FUTURE. I WILL SAY THAT GROWTH HAS BEEN FASTER THAN EXPECTED SINCE WE DID THAT FIVE YEARS AGO. SO I WOULD BUT WE'VE ACCOMMODATED FOR SOME OF THAT AS WE'VE GOTTEN ANNUAL DATA SETS FROM BOTH THE CENSUS BUREAU AND THE COG. WE ACTUALLY JUST GOT COG DATA HERE IN THE
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LAST WEEK OR SO SUMMARIZED. AND SO WE'VE BEEN MAKING ADJUSTMENTS ALONG THE WAY. I DON'T HAVE A YEAR FOR YOU AT THIS POINT, BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT WE'LL BE LOOKING AT. WHEN IS THE PLANNING SUPPOSED TO BE DONE? I THINK IT'S ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF CYCLE. SO IT STARTS OFF WITH LOOKING AT THE DEMANDS AND THEN TAKING A GOOD, HARD LOOK AT OUR EXISTING SUPPLIES. FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THIS LAST TIME, WE UPDATED THE HYDROLOGY ASSOCIATED WITH SOME OF OUR RESERVOIRS. AND SO WE FOUND THAT WE HAD A NEW DROUGHT OF RECORD THAT WE HAD TO PLAN FOR. SO AFTER WE TAKE A HARD LOOK AT SUPPLIES, WE'LL THEN BE LOOKING AT THE POTENTIAL STRATEGIES TO BE ABLE TO MEET THOSE LONG TERM DEMANDS. AND THEN PUTTING PUTTING THE PLAN TOGETHER. OKAY. SO SORRY. I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING YOU AS THE IS THE HAS THE PLAN STARTED OR IS IT SOMETHING YOU'RE ABOUT TO KICK OFF? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING WHERE YOU ARE IN THAT PROCESS. SO WE CONTRACTED FOR IT WITHIN THE LAST FEW MONTHS. I DON'T RECALL HAVING PARTICIPATED YET IN A KICK OFF MEETING. OKAY. SO ONCE IT KICKS OFF, YOU ANTICIPATE ABOUT 18 TO 24 MONTHS. YEAH.OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. LET ME DO THAT FOR MYSELF. SO I'VE GOT A FEW QUESTIONS FOR YOU MYSELF. I WANT TO START BY CONGRATULATING YOU SPECIFICALLY ON THE HOA WORK. I THINK, YOU KNOW. OPPORTUNITIES AND EFFORTS TO DO SOME THINGS ON THE CONSERVATION SIDE ARE REALLY, I THINK, IMPORTANT. AND, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE GIFTS THAT KEEP ON GIVING. WHEN THAT HOA IS NO LONGER WATERING ROCK, THEN WHEN WE HIT A DROUGHT AND WE ARE NEEDING EVERY BIT OF THAT WATER, THEN IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THEY ALREADY HAVE GOTTEN THAT ADJUSTMENT. SO GREAT JOB. I THINK THERE'S TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITIES FOR WATER SAVINGS OF THAT SIZE AROUND LARGE CAMPUSES AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT THAT I HOPE WILL. YOU GUYS WILL CONTINUE TO KIND OF DRIVE TOWARDS. AND IT'S I WOULD LOVE TO ALSO HEAR SOME SUCCESS STORIES OF PILOTS THAT ARE BECOMING MUCH MORE WIDESPREAD VERSUS JUST KD OF A STAYING IN THE PILOT REALM. I KNOW TODAY, THANKS TO QUITE A BIT OF RAINS AND KIND OF FAVORABLE WEATHER FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, WE ARE PROBABLY AT SOME HIGHER THAN NORMAL WATER LEVELS IN OUR RESERVOIRS AND THAT SORT OF THING. MY FATHER LIVES IN CORPUS CHRISTI, WHERE THE STORY IS DRAMATICALLY DIFFERENT, AND I BELIEVE THEIR WATER SOURCES DOWN TO THE LAST 10%, I THINK, AT LAKE CORPUS CHRISTI. SO ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK THAT IS CONCERNING TO ME, OBVIOUSLY, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY KNEW, FOR EXAMPLE, TEN YEARS AGO THAT AROUND THIS TIME THEY WOULD HAVE A PROBLEM WITH WATER. AND ALTHOUGH THERE WERE PLANS, THERE WAS SO MUCH OPACITY THAT IT DIDN'T EVER GET TO A POINT WHERE PEOPLE REALLY KNEW WHETHER OR NOT IN THEIR CASE, DESALINIZATION WAS ACTUALLY HAPPENING OR NOT HAPPENING. I THINK ONE OF THE CONCERNS DEFINITELY AFTER HEARING.
COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE ASK HER QUESTIONS. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAVE OR CONCERNS I HAVE IS IF 2036 WAS THE DATE SOMETIME RECENTLY, LET'S CALL IT A YEAR AGO, AND IF IT TAKES A YEAR AND A HALF FOR US TO KNOW WHAT THE NEW DATE IS, THEN THAT WOULD LEAVE US EIGHT AND A HALF YEARS TO 2036. AND IF THINGS ARE MOVING FASTER THAN YOU WERE EXPECTING, WHICH WAS ONE OF THE COMMENTS YOU MADE A MOMENT AGO, THEN COULD THAT EIGHT AND A HALF YEARS BE EIGHT YEARS OR SEVEN AND A HALF? I GUESS THE THE BIGGER QUESTION I'VE GOT IS WE'VE HAD GROWTH THAT'S MAYBE A LITTLE BIT FASTER THAN WE'VE EXPECTED. ARE WE CLOSER TO MORE WATER SOURCES, OR ARE WE CLOSER TO SOLUTIONS TO THE NEED OF THE 2036 PROBLEM AT THIS POINT THAN WE WERE BEFORE? WE KNOW THAT WE'RE FASTER IN GROWTH THAN WE WERE. SO I'D LOVE TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT. YES, I WILL SHARE THAT ON A ON A MONTHLY BASIS, OUR BOARD IS ASKING FOR UPDATES ON OUR LONG RANGE WATER SUPPLY. AND SO WE'RE WE'RE PROVIDING THOSE UPDATES ON A MONTHLY BASIS TO OUR WATER COMMITTEE. THERE IS A NUMBER OF COMPONENTS TO ONGOING NEGOTIATIONS AND ONGOING DISCUSSIONS OVER REAL PROPERTY MATTERS THAT RELATE TO WATER SUPPLY THAT I'M NOT AT LIBERTY TO SPEAK ABOUT IN THIS FORUM, BUT WE'RE ACTIVELY WORKING ON WATER SUPPLY. IT IS WHAT I SPEND MORE TIME ON THAN ANYTHING ELSE. AWESOME. THE LAST QUESTION I WAS GOING TO ASK WAS KIND OF GOING BACK TO THOSE HIGH WATER LEVELS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE TODAY. YOU KNOW, I'M SURE THERE'S A PART OF US, RIGHT, THAT WOULD LOVE TO SELL MORE WATER RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE
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HAVE SUCH HIGH LEVELS THAT ANOTHER RAIN, AND MAYBE WE'VE GOT TO LET SOME OF THAT WATER GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. AND SO IT'S SORT OF USE IT OR LOSE IT, SO TO SPEAK, ON THAT FRONT, HOW DO WE BALANCE, I GUESS, THE DESIRE TO CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THE CONSERVATION SIDE OF THIS WHILE ALSO FACING THE FACT THAT, HEY, WHEN IT RAINS A LOT, PEOPLE DON'T WATER THEIR YARDS AS MUCH, AND THEREFORE THAT CAUSES LESS CONSUMPTION AND IT FUELS LESS OF THE ENGINE THAT PAYS FOR ALL THIS CAPITAL. SO HOW DO WE BALANCE THAT, THAT COMBINATION OF THINGS? YEAH, THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION. AS WE'RE ABLE TO MAKE BEST USE OF OUR EXISTING RESOURCES, AND WE'RE ABLE TO SEE THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT INDIVIDUAL HOMES AND BUSINESSES ARE USING, THERE'S POTENTIAL TO BE ABLE TO REDUCE FUTURE SUPPLY NEEDS AND REDUCE FUTURE CAPITAL. SO WHILE I KNOW IT IS A CHALLENGE FROM AN ANNUAL BUDGETING CYCLE, THE MORE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO CONSERVE AND CREATE HABITS OF CONSERVING IN GOOD TIMES, PLENTY THAT WE CAN EXPECT CAN CONTINUE DURING TIMES OF DROUGHT, THEN WE'RE ABLE TO REDUCE THAT CAPITAL INVESTMENT.WE'VE REALLY BEEN PUTTING A LOT OF EMPHASIS ON WATER CONSERVATION OVER THE LAST ABOUT 20, 20 YEARS OR SO, AND WE'VE SEEN ABOUT A 30% REDUCTION IN THE GALLON PER CAPITA PER DAY OVER THAT PERIOD OF TIME. WITH THAT 30% REDUCTION, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO SAVE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT. WE USED TO SAY THAT IT WAS ABOUT A LAKES. IT'S ABOUT A LAVON LAKES WORTH OF WATER THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO REDUCE WHAT WE'RE PLANNING FOR, WE ARE PLANNING FOR CONTINUED GAINS ON THE CONSERVATION FRONT AS WE LOOK TO THE FUTURE. AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE WORKING WITH COMMUNITIES SUCH AS RICHARDSON AND BEYOND TO BE ABLE TO REALIZE THOSE GAINS. IF WE'RE NOT ABLE TO REALIZE THOSE GAINS, THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BUILD MORE TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE TAKING CARE OF THE MOST BASIC NEED OF ENSURING THAT THERE'S NO GAP IN THE TAP, AND THAT WHEN RESIDENTS TURN THEIR WATER FAUCET ON, THAT IT COMES OUT. SO IT'S REALLY A PARTNERSHIP TO BE ABLE TO OPTIMIZE THE THE WATER USAGE OF OUR LIMITED RESOURCES, TO BE ABLE TO NOT HAVE TO BUILD MORE. AND WHEN WE LOOK TO THOSE FUTURE SUPPLIES, THEY'RE FURTHER AND FURTHER AWAY. AND THE BIGGEST PART OF THOSE CAPITAL INVESTMENTS IS MOVING THE WATER TO GET IT HERE. AND SO THOSE FUTURE SUPPLIES ARE A LOT MORE COSTLY THAN THE EXISTING ONES. SO THE CHEAPEST WATER WILL EVER GET IS CONSERVED WATER WHERE WE CAN REDUCE THOSE DEMANDS. AND THEN WE'RE ALSO VERY ACTIVE IN THE WATER REUSE SPACE. WE'RE THE LARGEST WATER USER IN THE STATE. BY TAKING CLEAN WATER THAT'S DISCHARGED INTO OUR COMMUNITIES, WATERWAYS AND THEN RECYCLING IT. SO THAT'S ANOTHER REALLY IMPORTANT COMPONENT TO OUR WATER SUPPLY STRATEGY. WONDERFUL, COUNCILMEMBER. THANK YOU, MAYOR JEN, YOU MAY HAVE YOU KIND OF TOUCHED ON WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK JUST NOW AT THE MAYOR'S QUESTION, OR AT LEAST PART OF THE ANSWER, I'M SURE. IN THE SPIRIT OF WHAT I'M ABOUT TO ASK, I TRY TO ALWAYS HOLD ON TO SOMETHING AND TRY TO FIND HOPE IN THAT SO THAT WE CAN GET THROUGH CHALLENGES. IN HEARING SOME OF YOUR RESPONSES, YOU KNOW, 2036 QUESTION, WHICH S BEEN SUCH A TOPIC OF CONVERSATION IN THE FOUR YEARS I'VE BEEN ON THIS COUNCIL AND EXCUSE ME, I'M SURE IT'LL BE A TOPIC OF CONVERSATION LONG AFTER I'M GONE FROM THIS COUNCIL. BUT LOOKING AT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN OTHER CITIES AROUND THE NATION, MAYOR JUST MENTIONED CORPUS CHRISTI, WHICH IS ON THE WORST CASE SCENARIO CASE. AND. I JOKINGLY LEANED OVER TO COUNCILMAN JUSTICE, SAID, OH, I REALLY WISH THERE WERE A BODY OF WATER NEAR CORPUS CHRISTI WHERE THEY CAN GET WATER FROM. AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE I KNOW I'VE TALKED TO COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MAYORS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. I KNOW THAT'S THAT'S A GROWING AREA IN CERTAIN PARTS OF THE COUNTRY ASKING YOU, AND I'M SURE YOU TALKED TO OTHER PEOPLE IN YOUR POSITION AROUND THE COUNTRY, AND YOU'LL EXCHANGE IDEAS. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT'S HAPPENING IN OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY THAT YOU'RE THAT IN YOUR DAY TO DAY, YOU'RE HOPING YOU'RE HOLDING ON TO AS HOPE, SAYING, YOU KNOW, IF SOMETHING LIKE THAT COULD HAPPEN IN TEXAS, THIS WOULD REALLY CHANGE OUR POSITIONING SO THAT WE CAN LOOK AT IT IN A MORE HOPEFUL WAY.
INSTEAD OF THINKING, OH MY GOSH, WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE OF, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE OF THIRST IN 2036, WHICH WE WE SMILE AND JOKE AT IT. AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF STUFF FIGURED OUT BY THEN. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT'S A SERIOUS CONCERN FOR PEOPLE THAT
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WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF WATER. WE CONTINUE TO GROW IN SOME MAJOR, MAJOR ISSUE. SO WHAT ARE YOU HOLDING ON TO HOPE THERE? AND WHAT ARE YOU SEEING HAPPENING THAT YOU THINK, WOW, THIS WOULD BE GREAT? YEAH, I, I THINK BACK ON THE HISTORY OF NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT. WE'RE CELEBRATING 75 YEARS SINCE OUR FOUNDING THIS YEAR, AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THE POTENTIAL OF CELEBRATING THAT WITH YOU ALL LATER IN THE FALL. GROWTH HAS BEEN PART OF OUR DNA SINCE THE BEGINNING, WHEN WE STARTED PROVIDING WATER SERVICE IN 1956, WE SERVED 32,000 PEOPLE. TODAY WE'RE AT 2.4 MILLION. SO WE'VE DOUBLED MORE THAN SIX TIMES. THAT'S IT'S BEEN EMBEDDED IN WHO WE ARE AND WHAT WE'RE ABOUT. WE HAVE BROUGHT ON ADDITIONAL WATER SUPPLIES TIME AND TIME AGAIN, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT I HAVE CONFIDENCE WE'RE GOING TO DO AGAIN. AND I WE WILL NOT RUN OUT OF WATER. WE WILL. IF WE GET INTO A REALLY TOUGH SPOT, WE'LL PRIORITIZE WHAT WATER IS USED FOR THROUGH DROUGHT RESTRICTIONS, BUT WE'LL CONTINUE TO TAKE CARE OF THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITIES. SO THAT'S HAVING ACCESS TO SAFE, RELIABLE DRINKING WATER THAT'S MAKING SURE WE'RE TAKING CARE OF FIRE PROTECTION. SO THERE ARE SOME HIGHER USE NEEDS THAT WE WOULD ENSURE WERE MET, BUT WE MAY RESTRICT USE IF WE GET TO THOSE TYPES OF CONDITIONS. WE'RE NOT PLANNING FOR THAT, THOUGH.WE'RE PLANNING TO BE ABLE TO MEET THE LONG TERM NEEDS OF OUR REGION AND BRING ON ADDITIONAL WATER SUPPLIES TO MEET THOSE NEEDS. OKAY. FOLLOW UP ON WHAT YOU JUST SAID. YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU'RE GOING TO PRIORITIZE THE HIGH NEEDS, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY SAFE DRINKING WATER.
FIREFIGHTERS. GOT IT. DO YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, AT WHAT POINT DO YOU START SHARING OR AT WHAT POINT IS THERE A CUT OFF DATE? SAY, LOOK, WE DON'T HAVE A SOLUTION BY THIS DATE. WE HAVE THESE IN PLACE. AND WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? BECAUSE THAT'S SOONER THAN WE THINK. AND WITH YOU GUYS A YEAR AND A HALF AWAY FROM, YOU KNOW, COMING TO THE CONCLUSION OF THE DATA, WHICH YOU ALL ARE GOING TO RESEARCH, AT WHAT POINT DOES THAT COME INTO PLAY? AND THAT'S MY LAST QUESTION. THANK YOU. SO WE CONTINUE TO TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE SERVE TO, TO KEEP THEM INFORMED OF THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING AS AS THINGS BECOME MORE CLEAR, WE'LL WE'LL BE SHARING THAT INFORMATION WITH THE COUNCIL AND MAKE YOU ALL AWARE OF THAT.
MISS COVINGTON, I HAVE JUST ONE FINAL QUESTION. YOU KNOW, I THINK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW ENCORE IS DOING WHAT THEY'RE DOING, AND OBVIOUSLY DIFFERENT UTILITIES ALTOGETHER. BUT BUT PERHAPS SOME SOME COMMONALITY. I SEE LIKE AN ENCORE CASE WHERE IF A USER, A LARGE BUSINESS NEEDS MORE THAN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MEGAWATTS, THERE'S SORT OF THIS GATING PRINCIPLE WHERE IT COULD TAKE, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF YEARS BEFORE THEY'RE ABLE TO EVEN GET THAT ELECTRICITY BROUGHT TO THEM. AND I WONDER ABOUT SOME MEGA USER OF WATER, PERHAPS THERE'S, YOU KNOW, A FEW HUNDRED ACRES SOMEWHERE IN NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT, WHERE A SUPER LARGE USER OF WATER WOULD PLOP DOWN IN THAT SPACE AND, YOU KNOW, REQUEST, I DON'T KNOW, HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF GALLONS A DAY AT THIS JUNCTURE. WHAT SLOWS THAT DOWN FROM HAPPENING? BECAUSE TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, AT LEAST TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TIMES WHERE WE'VE NEEDED TO STOP MOVING FORWARD WITH A COMPANY, BECAUSE WE COULDN'T SUPPLY THEM WATER, WHEREAS THERE HAS BEEN THAT WITH ELECTRICITY, WHERE WE KIND OF NEED TO WAIT A LITTLE WHILE. SO DO YOU GUYS. IS THERE A CHECK AND BALANCE THERE? IF SOMEBODY OBVIOUSLY IT'S LIMITED BY THE SIZE OF THE PIPE THAT THE CITY HAS OVER THERE. BUT OUTSIDE OF THAT, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU GUYS HAVE AS A GATING ELEMENT THAT STOPS A LARGE USER FROM BEING ABLE TO JUST PLOP DOWN AND START USING? YEAH, THERE'S SOME PROVISIONS WITHIN OUR AGREEMENTS THAT WE WOULD LOOK TO, TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT TYPE OF A SITUATION. WITH THAT SAID, WHERE WE CAN, WE WANT TO ACCOMMODATE THE GROWTH OF THE REGION. SO AS YOU CITED, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'VE HAD TO DO. THERE HAVE BEEN SOME SOME DEMANDS THAT HAVE COME IN PRETTY QUICKLY. AND OUR OUR WHAT WE DO IS WORK REALLY HARD TO TRY TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE. THE SOONER THAT WE'RE ABLE TO BE AT THE TABLE WITH THE COMMUNITY THAT WE'RE SERVING, TO BE A PART OF THAT CONVERSATION AND WORKING
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TOGETHER TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO BEST ACCOMMODATE THOSE INCREASES, INCREASES IN DEMAND, THAT'S BETTER. THE SOONER WE CAN GET IN THERE AND BE PART OF THE CONVERSATION, IT'S BETTER FOR ALL. SO AS THERE'S TALK ABOUT POTENTIAL REALLY BIG USERS IN THE NEWS REGULARLY, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING REGULAR CONVERSATIONS WITH THOSE THAT WE SERVE TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE INVITED TO THE TABLE AS SOON AS WE CAN TO BE ABLE TO WORK THROUGH WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. THERE ARE PROVISIONS WITHIN THE AGREEMENTS THAT WE COULD POINT TO IF WE NEEDED TO, BUT OUR PREFERENCE IS TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO LET THAT TEXAS MIRACLE CONTINUE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION. I APPRECIATE IT. DIRECTORS. BURTON ROLAND, OBVIOUSLY, WE ARE ALWAYS THANKFUL FOR YOUR SERVICE. IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU GUYS NEEDED TO ADD, WE'D BE HAPPY TO LISTEN TO YOU AS WELL. IF. IF NOT, I'M SURE WE'RE OKAY WITH THAT AS WELL. I JUST YES TO COUNCILMAN DORIAN'S QUESTION. OUR HOA WENT THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND WE COULD PROBABLY REALIZE ABOUT 18 TO $20,000 A YEAR IF WE WOULD QUIT WATERING OUR SLOPES AT THE SAME RATE THAT WE WATER OUR FLAT AREAS. AND, AND THEN IF WE HAVE A WHOLE SEPARATE SYSTEM FOR OUR BUSHES THAT ARE AT THE END OF THEIR LIFE. SO THEY ONE OF THE SUGGESTIONS WAS, HEY, TURN THOSE BUSH SPRINKLERS OFF. SLOW DOWN THE RATE THAT YOU'RE PUTTING THE WATER ON THE SLOPES AND FIX THESE SPRINKLER HEADS, AND YOU CAN GET $18,000 A YEAR.AND SO I JUST WATCHING THEM DO THAT FOR THREE DAYS AND PRESENTING 112 PAGE REPORT TO ME OVER AN HOUR AND A HALF, I DIDN'T I WOULDN'T HAVE EVER DONE THAT ON MY OWN. AND SO I WENT BACK TO OUR BOARD AND SAID, HERE'S WHAT I FOUND. I WENT TO OUR IRRIGATOR AND OUR LANDSCAPE COMPANY AND SAID, WE'RE GOING TO DO ALL THESE THINGS. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO LOSE MONEY BECAUSE I'M GOING TO TURN IT INTO GRASS AND BUSHES AND OTHER THINGS. BUT IT THAT PROGRAM REALLY DID HELP WINDSOR ESTATES. I SIT THERE AND LISTEN TO WHAT THEY PRESENTED. THE OTHER THING IS, AS JENNA SO ELOQUENTLY TALKED ABOUT, THE THINGS THAT THEY'VE DONE THIS YEAR, JUST TO GET THE RATE, THE RATE OF INCREASE TO BE LESS GOING FORWARD, WE ARE STILL PROBABLY GOING TO NEED THOSE THINGS IN THE FUTURE. SO ALL WE REALLY ARE DOING IS COSTING US MORE LATER IF WE WOULD, IF WE COULD BUILD EVERYTHING WE NEEDED TODAY, IT WOULD BE LESS EXPENSIVE THAN IT'S GOING TO BE IN FIVE YEARS AND TEN YEARS. WE'RE STILL GOING TO NEED IT. IF THE TEXAS MIRACLE CONTINUES TO GROW, IF OUR REGION EXPERIENCES. LIKE JENNA POINTED OUT IN AN EMAIL THIS WEEKEND, COLLIN COUNTY GREW 200,000 RESIDENTS. WELL, THAT'S THE HEART OF OUR REGION.
AND THEY ALL EXPECT WATER TO TO FLOW JUST LIKE SHE SAID. SO THAT'S THE THAT'S THE CHALLENGE.
FRANKLY, I, YOU KNOW, I'M HONORED TO DO THIS, BUT IT IS A BIG. THERE IS NO END IN SIGHT.
THERE IS NO HORIZON. IT'S JUST WE ARE PLOWING EVERY DAY TO TRY TO BRING WATER TO THIS REGION AS BEST WE CAN. AND I WON'T SAY IT'S FUN EVERY TIME, BUT IT IS. IT'S VERY INTERESTING. IT'S.
AND I FEEL LIKE AT THE END OF MY TERM, I WILL BE ABLE TO LOOK BACK AND SAY, HEY, I HELPED DO SOME OF THAT. AND, AND I APPRECIATE Y'ALL'S CONFIDENCE IN US. YEAH, I APPRECIATE THAT TOO. THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT. YEAH. THE ONLY THING I WOULD ADD IS THAT I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS OBVIOUS IT WAS TO ME, BUT THERE THERE IS A HEIGHTENED LEVEL OF ATTENTION, OF IMPACT OF WHAT'S GOING ON AT THE DISTRICT ON THE MEMBER CITIES. WE'RE BRINGING THAT ATTENTION, AND I THINK THEY'RE RECOGNIZING IT AND TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, TO DO SOMETHING BETTER ABOUT IT.
AND JUST HOW CAN WE DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT? THE POINT ABOUT THE, YOU KNOW, THE LONG RANGE PLAN AND, AND THE FINANCIAL PLAN SAYING, OH, NO, WAIT, I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THAT LOOKING LIKE THAT. WE'VE GOT TO FIND A BETTER WAY OF TO DO THE, YOU KNOW, SHARE COST BETTER. AND, AND THEY DID. AND WE DRILLED DOWN ON THAT QUESTION, WHY DO WE ALWAYS DO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT'S JUST LOOKING AT SOMETHING PACKAGING UP CAPITAL COSTS SMALLER PACKAGES AT A TIME. YES, PUSHING IT OUT. BUT THAT SAVES INTEREST. AND INTEREST IS YOUR BIGGEST PIECE OF, OF YOUR RATE. SO I DO THINK THAT THE AWARENESS IS, IS THERE. IT NEEDS TO BE MORE AND WE'LL KEEP FIGHTING THAT FIGHT. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU AGAIN, DIRECTOR BIRD AND ROLAND. AND THANK YOU TO NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT FOR FOR YOUR
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PRESENTATION, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER SIX, WHICH IS TO REVIEW AND DISCUSS A COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW OF THE CITY'S RETAIL WATER AND SEWER RATE STRUCTURE. MR. MAGNER.THANK YOU. MAYOR, WE'RE GOING TO DO A SWITCH OUT HERE. SO I'M GOING TO GIVE BOB AND ANNA A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO MAKE THEIR WAY. BUT LET ME DRAW YOUR ATTENTION BACK TO JUNE 8TH, WHEN DAN JACKSON FROM WILLDAN JOINED BOB KLEIN AND ERIC ROBISON, OUR BUDGET DIRECTOR
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AND PUBLIC SERVICES DIRECTOR, TO PROVIDE YOU WITH A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND AND THEN THREE OPTIONS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TO RETHINK OUR WATER AND WASTEWATER RATE STRUCTURE. SUBSEQUENT TO THAT BRIEFING, YOU REQUESTED SOME OF THE RAW DATA, AS WELL AS TWO ADDITIONAL SUMMARY DOCUMENTS THAT WE PUT TOGETHER FOR YOU THAT WAS PROVIDED TO YOU, I THINK, JUST A FEW DAYS AFTER THAT, THAT LAST BRIEFING, ALL WITH THE HOPE THAT YOU COULD SPEND THE LAST TWO WEEKS KIND OF CONTEMPLATING THE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS THAT WE PROVIDED. WE ARE NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THAT INFORMATION. AGAIN, WHAT I'VE ASKED BOB. BOB IS GOING TO LEAD THE PRESENTATION FOR US. WHAT I'VE ASKED BOB TO FOCUS ON IS TO DO A QUICK RECAP OF THE THREE SCENARIOS, AND THEN FOCUS ON THE SCENARIO THAT WE RECOMMENDED TO YOU ON THE EIGHTH, WHICH WAS SCENARIO THREE, TWO WEEKS AGO. WE WEREN'T LOOKING FOR A CONSENSUS OR SPECIFIC DIRECTION, BUT TONIGHT WE ARE. THIS IS CRITICAL TO OUR BUDGET DEVELOPMENT. AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE NEXT YOU HAVE THE NEXT TWO WEEKS OFF FOR SUMMER BREAK.SO AS WE SPEND THE NEXT THREE WEEKS BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEXT MEETING, REALLY STARTING TO REFINE THE BUDGET THAT I'LL FILE FOR IN MID-AUGUST, THIS IS IMPORTANT INFORMATION IF WE NEED TO COME BACK ONCE MORE AFTER THE BREAK, WE CAN MANAGE THAT. BUT I THINK WE'VE PUT TOGETHER A PRESENTATION HERE THAT WILL BE RESPONSIVE TO ALL THE QUESTIONS. AND SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR DISCUSSION AND YOUR DIRECTION. BOB. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL. AS DON MENTIONED A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE YOU WITH AN OVERVIEW OF THE RATE ANALYSIS WE DID WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF WILLDAN, AND MADE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CHANGES TO OUR RATE STRUCTURE. SCENARIO ONE OR OPTION ONE WOULD BE BASICALLY STATUS QUO, WHERE WE WOULD KEEP OUR CURRENT RATE STRUCTURE AND APPLY A UNIFORM INCREASE ACROSS THE WATER AND SEWER RATE STRUCTURES, AS WELL AS THE BASE FEES ANNUALLY. NOW THAT WOULD EQUATE TO ABOUT A 10% INCREASE FOR OUR RESIDENTS OR AN AVERAGE RESIDENT, WHICH WE DEFINE AS A USER THAT USES 10,000 GALLONS OF WATER AND 5000 GALLONS OF SEWER MONTHLY. AGAIN, THAT'S A COMBINED USAGE OR COMBINED IMPACT. WHEN YOU LOOK AT BOTH THE RATE INCREASE AND THE BASE INCREASE. OPTION TWO OR SCENARIO TWO INTRODUCED WHAT WE CALL METEOR EQUIVALENCY. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ONE BASE CHARGE FOR ALL METEOR SIZES ACROSS WATER AND SEWER. ALL ACCOUNTS ARE CHARGED AN $8 MINIMUM. UNDER THE METEOR EQUIVALENCY, WE WOULD SET UP DIFFERENT BASE FEES FOR THE NINE DIFFERENT METER SIZES THAT WE OFFER HERE AT THE CITY, WE WOULD TAKE THE THREE QUARTER INCH, WHICH IS MOST RESIDENTS FROM ROUGHLY EIGHT, WELL FROM $8 TO $20 OVER A FIVE YEAR PERIOD. AND WE WOULD ALSO PHASE IN THE METEOR METEOR EQUIVALENCIES FOR THE OTHER SIZES OVER A FIVE YEAR PERIOD. THIS WOULD ALSO REQUIRE A ANNUAL. CHANGE TO OUR VOLUMETRIC RATES, THOUGH AT A LOWER LEVEL THAN WHAT YOU WOULD SEE IN OPTION ONE. IT ALSO, AS PART OF A NOTE HERE, THE GROWTH ON TIER FIVE WATER RATES WOULD BE AT A HIGHER RATE THAN WHAT WE WOULD SEE ON ONE THROUGH FOUR TO KIND OF ESTABLISH MORE OF A CONSERVATION MODEL TO MAKE THAT JUMP BETWEEN TIER FOUR AND TIER FIVE AT A LARGER VARIANCE. SCENARIO THREE, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING TO YOU TONIGHT, ASSUMES ALL THE SAME, IT MAKES ALL THE SAME ASSUMPTIONS AS WE DO IN SCENARIO TWO, BUT IT DOES INTRODUCE WHAT WE WHAT IS A SENIOR DISCOUNT SENIORS THAT QUALIFY AS A SENIOR? RIGHT NOW WE'RE QUALIFYING THAT AS A 65 AND OVER AND HAVE A THREE QUARTER INCH OR A ONE INCH METER WOULD HAVE THEIR BASE CHARGE FROZEN AT THE CURRENT $8 LEVEL. THOSE ABOVE THE ONE METER WOULD ALSO SEE THEIRS GO TO THE METEOR EQUIVALENCY RATES. BUT FOR THE VAST MAJORITY WHO HAVE THE THREE QUARTER AND THE ONE INCH METERS THAT WOULD BE FROZEN AT THE $8 PER MONTH LEVEL. NOW, THIS WOULD REQUIRE A SLIGHT INCREASE TO THE OTHER CUSTOMERS OF 0.3 TO 0.6% A YEAR. TO MAKE UP FOR THAT LOST REVENUE, WE WANTED TO INCLUDE THIS GRAPH HERE TO SHOW WHERE OUR CURRENT METER CHARGES ARE.
RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A SINGULAR METER CHARGE OF $8 THAT AVERAGE. AND FOR MOST OF WHAT OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES ARE CURRENTLY OFFERING FOR THE THE BASE METER CHARGE FOR THE RESIDENTS, WE WILL SEE THE SAME THING ON THE SEWER SIDE. WE'RE CURRENTLY AT $8. OVER THE FIVE YEAR PERIOD, WE WOULD INCREASE THAT TO $20, WHICH WOULD KEEP US SUBSTANTIALLY BELOW SOME OF THE AREA CITIES AND BELOW AVERAGE. AND AGAIN, IF YOU HAVE A LARGER METER THAT YOU'D BE
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IMPACTED DIFFERENTLY. BUT THIS WOULD IMPACT MOST OF THE. CURRENT RESIDENTIAL ACCOUNTS.WE WANTED TO INCLUDE THIS HERE. YOU KNOW, IT'S GOT ALL THE ALL THE RATES PER YEAR. BUT WE WANTED TO NOTE THAT THE TOP THERE, THE CURRENT $8 A MONTH MINIMUM BASE CHARGE, IT'S $8 FROM THE THREE QUARTER INCH ALL THE WAY DOWN TO TEN INCH METERS. AND YOU'LL SEE AS OVER THE FIVE YEAR PERIOD, WE PHASE IN THE METER EQUIVALENCY, GOING FROM $8 TO $20 FOR THE THREE QUARTER INCH, AND THEN THE LARGER METERS WOULD HAVE THEIR INDIVIDUAL ASSIGNED METERS ACCORDING TO INDUSTRY STANDARDS. SAME THING WOULD GO WITH SEWER. WE'RE CURRENTLY AT $8. WE WOULD SEE THOSE SAME PHASE IN OVER THE FIVE YEAR PERIOD. WE WANTED TO ILLUSTRATE THAT TO THEN BRING UP THE SENIOR DISCOUNTS. HERE IS THE SENIOR DISCOUNTS. AGAIN, EVERYONE'S BEING CHARGED $8. THE THREE QUARTER INCH AND ONE INCH AT THE TOP. YOU WOULD SEE IT STAY FLAT AT THE $8. AND THEN UNDER THE GREEN YOU SEE THE SAME THING. THREE QUARTER INCH AND ONE INCH WOULD STAY AT $8, WHILE THE REST OF THEM WOULD FALL IN LINE WITH THE METER EQUIVALENCY WE SEE IN THE OTHER CUSTOMER CLASSES AT THIS TIME, WE'D LIKE TO OPEN IT UP TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE, AND. COUNCILMEMBER SERAFINI, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.
WELL, THANKS FOR YOUR CLARIFICATION OF THIS. NOW, THIS QUESTION SHOULD HAVE ASKED LAST TIME, BUT IT'S NEVER TOO LATE TO ASK QUESTION. NOW. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE BOND PROGRAM THAT WE DO LAST, YOU KNOW, COUPLE TIMES WE DID THAT. SO THE FUTURE BOND PROGRAM, THIS WILL HOW THIS WILL IMPACT THE FUTURE BOND PROGRAM. SO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE WILL NOT INFLUENCE FUTURE BOND PROGRAMS. BOND PROGRAMS ARE GENERAL FUND SUPPORTED. THE DEBT PLAN THE 80 ISH IT'S $80 MILLION $80 MILLION OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS WOULD BE SUPPORTED BY THE WATER AND SEWER FUND. THOSE WOULD BE CERTIFICATES, CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION THAT WOULD BE SOLD TO SUPPORT THIS THIS PROGRAM. SO THE BOND PROGRAM THAT, FOR INSTANCE, THE ONE THAT WE ARE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT POTENTIALLY IN 2031, WOULDN'T BE IMPACTED. OKAY. NOW I'LL BE MORE SPECIFIC ON THAT ONE. WITH THIS FUND, WE'RE GOING TO BE TAKING CARE OF LOTS OF PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE OR WE WOULD HAVE OTHERWISE. SO THAT MEANS OUR SYSTEM WOULD BE MUCH BETTER. INFRASTRUCTURE WOULD BE SOME IMPROVED. AND THIS WILL TAKE US PROBABLY WHATEVER IMPROVEMENT WE DO WITH THIS FUND, IT WILL TAKE US PROBABLY AT LEAST 50 TO 60 YEARS. THOSE AREA. RIGHT. SO SO THIS FUND WILL HAVE IMPACT. NEXT BENEFIT WILL GET NEXT 50 TO 60 YEARS.
YEAH, I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. I THINK THE $80 MILLION IN CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING HAVE DECADES LONG IMPACT AND BENEFIT. SO IN OTHER WORDS, THAT IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THIS FUND, WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH THE FUND SOMEWHERE, RIGHT? EVENTUALLY. SO SOMEBODY HAVE TO PAY. I MEAN, IT'S UP. WE WILL BE PAYING THIS FUND REGARDLESS INTO PROBABLY A DIFFERENT WAY.
SO THIS FUND COULD HAVE GONE TO THE BOND, RIGHT? IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THIS FUND, THEN WE COULD ADD MORE BOND FOR THE UTILITIES. I THINK IN THE SPIRIT OF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, YES, IF WE DIDN'T HAVE A WATER WASTEWATER ENTERPRISE FUND WHERE IT SUPPORTED ITS OWN DEBT AND WE NEEDED TO SELL, YOU KNOW, DEBT FOR THAT PURPOSE SOMEWHERE ELSE, IT WOULD BE ANOTHER FUND THAT WOULD HAVE TO SUPPORT IT. OKAY. BUT WE'RE GOING TO BE TAKING CARE OF THIS THING DIFFERENT WAY. AND, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS 80 MILLION. I KNOW THIS PRESENTATION HAD THAT NUMBER LAST PRESENTATION THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE RECOPYING THIS THING FOR HOW MANY YEARS THAT 80 MILLION, FIVE YEARS. SO YEARS THEN? WE'RE GOING TO BE BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BE STILL HAVING THIS RATE, RIGHT? SO, SO MY, MY INTENTION IS TO CONTINUE TO TAKE IN A FIVE YEAR VIEW.
LIKE WE'RE AS A MATTER OF FACT, CHARLES WILL BE HERE IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS PRESENTING THE CITY WIDE CAPITAL PLAN, WHICH WATER WASTEWATER IS A COMPONENT OF. AND SO STARTING IN ABOUT 20, I GUESS, 2021 OR SO, WHEN WE PASSED THAT BOND PROGRAM, WE'VE BEEN TAKING A FIVE YEAR VIEW OF OUR CAPITAL PLAN. AND EVERY YEAR WE UPDATE THAT FIVE YEAR VIEW. SO NEXT YEAR, AS THIS FIRST YEAR BURNS OFF, WE'LL BRING YOU THE NEW YEAR FIVE. BUT BUT RECALL, AS I MENTIONED LAST TIME, WE REDUCED THE FIVE YEAR PLAN FROM ITS ORIGINAL, ABOUT $100 MILLION. WHAT WE FELT WAS REQUIRED CAPITAL TO THE $80 MILLION TO HELP WITH THE RATE HERE. AND SO, YES, AGAIN, 80% OF OUR WATER WASTEWATER INFRASTRUCTURE IS 40 YEARS OLD OR OLDER. AND SO
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WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH YOUR CONCURRENCE. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CONTINUALLY INVEST IN IN THIS CORE INFRASTRUCTURE. AND SO THERE'S NOT A THERE'S NOT A, A, A STOPPAGE OR A BIG DOWNTURN SOMEWHERE OUT IN THE FUTURE. IF WE WANT TO DO IT TO THE LEVEL IT REQUIRES US TO, TO, TO BE MAINTAINED. WELL, YEAH. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER CORCORAN. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.JUST. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DON, FOR CATCHING ME UP ON SOME OF THAT HOMEWORK. I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND THESE CHARTS. AND NOW I DO. AND, YOU KNOW, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS FOR SOME OF THE NOW UNDERSTANDING THE DIFFERENT CHARTS FOR SOME OF THE CITIES, LIKE WILEY WITH LIKE EIGHT TIMES THE BASE RATE, DOES THAT MEAN, DOES THAT BASE RATE COVER AND SUPPRESS SORT OF A MUCH LOWER LIKE PER 1000 GALLON RATE FOR THEM OR. I MEAN, THAT'S, I DON'T KNOW, I FIND THE VARIATION IN BASE RATE JUST TO BE VERY ASTOUNDING AND JUST THE VARIETY OF DIFFERENT POLICIES THAT ARE OUT THERE. WELL, EVERY UTILITY OPERATES THEIR FUND DIFFERENTLY. OKAY. I DON'T WORK FOR WILEY, SO I DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT THE DETAILS BEHIND THEM. WHILE IT IS GENERALLY TRUE THAT IF YOU HAVE A HIGHER MINIMUM CHARGE, YOU WILL HAVE A LESSER VOLUMETRIC RATE, THAT'S NOT ALWAYS THE CASE. PLUS, THERE ARE A LOT OF CITIES THAT HAVE WIDE VARIETIES WITHIN THEIR VOLUMETRIC RATE. THERE ARE SOME CITIES THAT HAVE INCREDIBLY LOW FIRST TIERS AND THEN A TOP TIER THAT'S LITERALLY 10 TO 15 TIMES HIGHER. SO AND THEN OF COURSE, THE MAIN ISSUE THAT EVERY UTILITY HAS TO FACE IS HOW ARE THEY GOING TO FUND THEIR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. AND THAT HAS A BIG FACTOR ON WHAT BOTH THE BASE CHARGE AND THE VOLUMETRIC CHARGE ARE GOING TO BE. IF ANOTHER CITY HAS A VERY LOW VOLUMETRIC RATE AND A LOW BASE CHARGE, IT MIGHT BE BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT SPENDING ANY MONEY ON CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. IT MIGHT BE BECAUSE THEY'VE DECIDED TO ALLOW THEIR GENERAL FUND TO SUBSIDIZE THEIR WATER AND SEWER FUND. SO EVERY EVERY CITY IS UNIQUE. IT'S HARD TO IT'S HARD TO DRAW GENERAL CONCLUSIONS, ALTHOUGH FROM PURE ARITHMETIC, YOU CAN YOU CAN MAKE THE GENERAL PROPOSITION THAT IF YOU HAVE A HIGHER BASE RATE, YOU WILL PROBABLY HAVE A LOWER VOLUMETRIC RATE. I MEAN, FROM A BUDGETING PERSPECTIVE, IS THAT COMMON FOR MUNICIPALITIES TO HAVE THE GENERAL FUND SUBSIDIZE THEIR WATER OR SEWER FUNDS? 30 TO 35% OF UTILITIES IN THE UNITED STATES, CHARGE RATES THAT DON'T COVER THEIR COSTS. SO AT LEAST A THIRD OF THE UTILITIES IN THE NATION HAVE THE GENERAL FUND SUBSIDIZE THEIR WATER AND SEWER FUND. NOW, IT'S NOT ILLEGAL TO DO THAT. IT'S NOT NECESSARILY GOOD POLICY BECAUSE EVERY DOLLAR THAT'S USED TO FUND, YOU KNOW, TO TO SUBSIDIZE WATER RATES IS A DOLLAR THAT YOU DON'T HAVE FOR OTHER CITY SERVICES. BUT IT'S VERY COMMON. INTERESTING. OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER DORIAN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE WATCHING ON THE THE SCENARIO THREE FOR THE SENIOR DISCOUNT IS THAT $8 FLAT BASE CHARGE IS, IS THAT PERMANENT OR IS THAT JUST FOR THAT THREE YEAR CYCLE? IT SAYS PROPOSED RATE ADJUSTMENTS FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS. IS IT JUST FOR THE THREE YEAR CYCLE? OUR CURRENT PLAN IS A FIVE YEAR OUTLOOK. WE'LL EVALUATE THOSE ANNUALLY AS WE WOULD DO OUR NORMAL RATE REQUIREMENTS. RIGHT NOW THE PLAN IS TO KEEP THAT FLAT GOING FORWARD. AND THEN ONCE WE GET TO THE FIVE YEAR FULL IMPLEMENTATION OF THE METEOR, A METEOR EQUIVALENCY, THEN WE MIGHT HAVE TO MAKE SOME MINOR ADJUSTMENTS HERE AND THERE. BUT THE CURRENT PLAN IS TO KEEP IT FLAT. OKAY. AND WHEN WILL THAT GO INTO EFFECT? POTENTIALLY IT WOULD GO INTO EFFECT IF IF ADOPTED, WE WOULD GO INTO EFFECT. IT'D BE OCTOBER WITH THE FIRST BILLING IN NOVEMBER OF THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR. AND LET ME LET ME JUST BUILD ON WHAT BOB SAID. THAT WOULD BE A COUNCIL DECISION MOVING FORWARD. SO, I MEAN, WE'LL WE'LL WE'LL EVALUATE AND, YOU KNOW, WE'LL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO YOU. IT WOULD TAKE, IF YOU ADOPT THIS RECOMMENDATION THREE IT WOULD TAKE YOUR ACTION OR FUTURE FUTURE COUNCIL'S ACTION TO CHANGE THAT BASE RATE. OKAY. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE. THANK YOU. YOU'RE LOOKING FOR DIRECTION. I THINK THAT OF THE SCENARIOS YOU PRESENTED, SCENARIO THREE ABSOLUTELY IS THE RIGHT DECISION IN MY OPINION. I THINK, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THOSE CHARTS IS A LITTLE BIT ASTOUNDING. NOBODY SITTING ON THIS DAIS, I THINK I CAN SPEAK FOR EVERYONE IS IN FAVOR OF RAISING RATES. BUT I THINK WE RECOGNIZE, BECAUSE OF THE GOOD WORK THAT WILLDAN HAS DONE THAT, THAT IT'S NECESSARY TO, TO DO SO HERE. AND I THINK THAT MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE TAKING CARE OF SENIORS AS BEST AS WE CAN AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE IMPACTED AND THEY'RE NOT IMPACTED, IS THE RIGHT WAY TO GO HERE. SO I AGREE THAT SCENARIO THREE IS, IS THE RIGHT DIRECTION. SO I WOULD RECOMMEND TO YOU THAT THAT'S THE PATH WE
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TAKE. MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHENRIDER. YES, I WOULD LIKE TO JUST ADD ON AS WELL. I THINK OPTION THREE IS THE BEST AND WOULD LEND MY SUPPORT TOWARDS THAT AS WELL. THANK YOU. SO I'VE GOT A COUPLE QUESTIONS. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I KIND OF GET A CLEAR PICTURE OF ON THAT $8 THAT'S THERE. DO YOU HAVE A I CAN'T REMEMBER IF YOU DO OR DON'T HAVE A SIMILAR SLIDE FOR THE PROPOSED. WHAT OUR PROPOSED AVERAGE IS GOING TO BE. AND THE REASON I'M ASKING IS BECAUSE WE ARE PROPOSING THAT ASIDE FROM THE SENIORS BEING FROZEN AND ASIDE FROM, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THREE QUARTER OR ONE INCH IS GOING TO BE, THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE MUCH BIGGER BASE CHARGES FOR LARGER METERS. AND SO I ASSUME WHEN YOU DO THAT, INSTEAD OF THE AVERAGE BEING EIGHT, THE AVERAGE IS GOING TO GO UP. I GUESS MY QUESTION IS BASED ON THE MIX THAT WE HAVE TODAY OR THAT WE KNOW OF TODAY, WHAT DOES THAT NUMBER GO TO? WELL, IN THE RATE PLAN UNDER SCENARIO THREE, THE $8 PER MONTH MINIMUM CHARGE WOULD GO TO $20 BY THE YEAR 2030. OKAY. HOWEVER, KEEP IN MIND, THOUGH, THAT EVERY ONE OF THESE CITIES IS GOING TO BE RAISING THEIR RATES. MAY I PAUSE YOU FOR JUST A MOMENT? SO DID YOU SAY THE AVERAGE OR THE OR THE BASE? THE BASE CHARGE? OKAY. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IS THE AVERAGE.IS THAT RIGHT? OKAY. YOU WANT YOU WANT THE COMPARISON FOR THE AVERAGE FOR 10,000 GALLONS OF WATER AND 5000 GALLONS OF WASTEWATER. YES. WELL, LET ME LET ME JUST I MAYOR, I THINK YOU'RE ARE YOU YOU'RE SAYING THE AVERAGE BASE CHARGE IS ACTUALLY $24 A MONTH? THAT'S ONLY FOR THE THREE QUARTER INCH METER. AND SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS, OH, I'M SORRY, THAT'S ONLY THREE QUARTERS, RIGHT? IT'S NOT IT'S NOT THE AVERAGE FOR THE THREE QUARTER THROUGH THE TEN. OKAY. YEAH. I THOUGHT I THOUGHT WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT HERE WAS A MIX. AND IN OUR CASE WE HAD NO MIX. IT WAS EIGHT EIGHT ALL THE WAY ACROSS. THE 2417 AVERAGE IS THE AVERAGE OF ALL THE. AND THAT'S ALL THREE QUARTER INCH THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT THERE.
CORRECT. OKAY. THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S VERY HELPFUL. I JUST. SO THEN LET ME ASK THE SECOND QUESTION, WHICH IS ON THOSE LARGER METER SIZES. HOW DO WE COMPARE TO THESE OTHER CITIES ON THOSE LARGER METER SIZES IN TERMS OF WHAT OUR BASE RATES ARE GOING TO BE? AND I KNOW WE MAY NOT HAVE A CHART FOR IT, AND IT MAY NOT BE SOMETHING YOU HAVE OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD, BUT ARE WE IN THE MIDDLE OR ARE WE LOW? ARE WE HIGH? WELL, AS FAR AS I CAN RECALL, AND I'VE WORKED AND I'M FAMILIAR WITH MOST, IF NOT ALL OF THESE CITIES. YOU'RE THE ONLY CITY THAT HAS A UNIFORM, $8 CHARGE FOR EVERY UNIFORM CHARGE FOR EVERY METER SIZE. SURE, EVERY OTHER CITY HAS SOME FORM OF INCREASING RATE FOR THE LARGER METER SIZES. NOW, THEY THEY DON'T ALL NECESSARILY FULLY MEET THE METER EQUIVALENCY STANDARD. FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, A TWO INCH METER IS THE EQUIVALENT OF FIVE THREE QUARTER INCH METERS. NOT EVERY CITY HAS A TWO INCH METER RATE THAT'S FIVE TIMES, BUT MOST OF THEM HAVE A RATE THAT IS SUBSTANTIALLY HIGHER. LET ME LET ME TAKE A SHOT AT IT. SO THE ONE INCH ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE TEN INCH IN FIVE YEARS, THE OUR CHARGE IS GOING TO BE SOMEWHERE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS CHART. IF YOU HAD A CHART FOR FOR THE ONE THROUGH THE TEN, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE AN OUTLIER, RIGHT? SO THAT'S THE I THINK THAT'S THE QUESTION IS, IS WHEN IN FIVE YEARS, WHEN WE HAVE OUR NEW METER BASE RATE FOR THE ONE ALL THE WAY, ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE TEN INCH METER, WE'RE ALL, WE'RE GOING TO FALL SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CHARTS. WE DON'T HAVE ANY FIVE YEAR GOAL. THAT'S BRINGING US FAR TO THE RIGHT, WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE A HIGH END OUTLIER. OKAY, YEAH. AND I GUESS I WOULD BE ALSO CURIOUS ABOUT, ARE WE A LOW END OUTLIER ON ANY OF THESE? SO IS OUR FOUR INCH OR IS OUR FIVE INCH OR IS OUR SIX INCH CONSIDERABLY LESS EXPENSIVE THAN THE MAJORITY OF THE OTHERS? AND, AND WHERE I'M GOING WITH THAT JUST FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH. AND SO I'M, I'M A PLAY OPTION THREE PERSON, RIGHT? SO, SO NOW THAT NOTWITHSTANDING, THERE'S STILL SOME TWEAKING THAT COULD OR COULDN'T HAPPEN, DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU GUYS FIND. BUT I THINK IF WE'RE CONSIDERABLY BELOW AVERAGE ON 3 INCH OR 5 INCH OR 7 INCH OR 9 INCH, I'D LOVE TO SEE US AT LEAST BE AVERAGE TO ABOVE AVERAGE ON THOSE FRONTS. IF THAT'S LEGALLY ALLOWABLE, THEREBY PERHAPS PUTTING A LITTLE BIT MORE LOAD SLIGHTLY ON, ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE, BUT KEEPING US STILL IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PACK TO WHERE WE'RE NOT SO OUT OF COMPETITIVENESS WITH OUR COMPETITORS. NOW, I KNOW THERE'S ALSO A LEGAL ELEMENT TO THIS, WITH HOW MUCH MORE YOU CAN BURDEN ONE GROUP VERSUS THE OTHER. BUT I JUST I'M ASKING FOR US TO BE AS CONSCIOUS OF THAT AND TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO PRESS THE EDGE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, SO THAT WE CAN PERHAPS LIMIT EVEN A LITTLE BIT
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WHAT WHAT HAPPENS TO OUR RESIDENTS. SO BUT I'M AN OPTION THREE GUY. WE'VE GOT THREE OPTION THREE PEOPLE, AND THERE IS A DESIRE FOR THE COUNCIL TO WEIGH IN ON OPTION ONE, 2 OR 3.IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT HAS SOMETHING OTHER THAN OPTION THREE THAT THEY WOULD BE LEANING TOWARDS? OR DOES ANYONE WANT TO KIND OF NOD OR WAVE OR GIVE ME A SMILEY FACE? NOT AN OPTION BESIDES THREE, BUT OKAY. JUST AS A FOLLOW UP TO MY OWN QUICK RESEARCH HERE, I MEAN, JUST A CURSORY LOOK AT SOME OF THESE OTHER CITIES LIKE ANNA AND ALLEN. I MEAN, TO YOUR POINT, IT TOOK ME FIVE SECONDS TO LOOK IT UP MYSELF AND WILDLY DIFFERENT. I MEAN, IT'S IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO COMPARE ■IN SOME WAYS HOW DIFFERENT THE PROGRAMS ARE. BUT WITH THAT SAID, I MEAN, FOR RICHARDSON, JUST LOOKING INWARD AT OURSELVES. OPTION THREE SOUNDS GOOD. PERFECT. OKAY. I THINK WE'VE GOT THE MAJORITY OF US MOVING IN. OPTION THREE. SO GO
[7. REVIEW AND DISCUSS WILDFLOWER! ARTS AND MUSIC FESTIVAL RECOMMENDATIONS ]
FORTH AND OPTION THREE AWAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, WHICH IS TO REVIEW AND DISCUSS WILDFLOWER ARTS AND MUSIC FESTIVAL RECOMMENDATIONS. MR. MAGNER. THANK YOU MAYOR. WE'RE GOING TO SWITCH OUT AGAIN HERE. IVONNE PHALGU, OUR DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND REC, IS GOING TO LEAD THE BRIEFING, BUT WE'RE APPRECIATIVE OF HER WHOLE TEAM BEING HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS IF THAT BE NEEDED. THIS IS THE CULMINATION OF SEVERAL BRIEFINGS, ONE STARTING ALL THE WAY BACK LAST FALL, WHERE WE HAVE TAKEN A VERY, I THINK, A VERY STRATEGIC PATH TO THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE FOR YOU TONIGHT. IVONNE, IS GOING TO RECAP A LITTLE BIT OF THE DATA THAT WE'VE SHARED PREVIOUSLY, THAT WE COLLECTED THIS LAST WILDFLOWER AND AND TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT RECOMMENDATION THAT WE HAVE FOR YOU FOR WILDFLOWER 27, AS WELL AS SOME OF THE RATIONALE THAT THAT RECOMMENDATION IS BUILT AROUND, MUCH LIKE THE PRIOR ITEM. THIS IS AN IMPORTANT BRIEFING TO HOPEFULLY ACHIEVE SOME KIND OF CONSENSUS AROUND TONIGHT. AGAIN, IF WE HAVE TO COME BACK, THAT SO BE IT. BUT AGAIN, AS YOU'LL SEE, THE MAGNITUDE OF THE DIFFERENCE IN ACCEPTING THIS RECOMMENDATION VERSUS NOT AND CONTINUING ON WITH THE STATUS QUO IS, IS, IS GOING TO BE VERY IMPACTFUL TO THE FY 27 BUDGET DISCUSSION THAT WE HAVE. AND SO, IVONNE, THANKS FOR TO YOU AND THE WHOLE TEAM FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER. AND COUNCIL, WE LOOK FORWARD TO SOME DISCUSSION AND DIALOG AS WE CONCLUDE OUR RECOMMENDATION HERE. THANK YOU. MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL, AS AS MR. MAGNER SAID, TONIGHT, WE ARE REALLY GOING THROUGH TO DISCUSS AND FINALIZE THIS WILDFLOWER RECOMMENDATION.MORE THAN ANYTHING, WE WANT TO ESTABLISH A MORE FINANCIALLY SUSTAINABLE MODEL THAT WILL MAINTAIN THE SPIRIT OF WHAT WILDFLOWER REALLY IS. SO, AS SHARED TONIGHT, WE ARE GOING TO DO A REFRESHER OF THE COMMUNITY SURVEY. JUST SOME HIGHLIGHTS OF THAT. WE WILL GO OVER THE ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDY, DISCUSS THE BENCHMARK FESTIVALS THAT THE TEAM HAS REVIEWED AND STUDIED, AS WELL AS WE'RE GOING TO SHARE WITH YOU THE 2026 FESTIVAL DATA THAT IS GOING TO INCLUDE THE ATTENDANCE AND FINANCIAL RECORDS, AND THEN WE WILL GO THROUGH THE RECOMMENDED CHANGES AND NEXT STEPS AS WELL. SO WE'RE GOING TO START WITH THE COMMUNITY SURVEY AND ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDY. AND AS I MENTIONED, JUST A HIGHLIGHT FROM SOME OF THE INFORMATION WE SHARED IN MARCH. THIS SURVEY WAS COMPLETED IN JANUARY. DURING THAT TIME, SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT CAME OUT OF THE SURVEY WAS PREFERRED TICKET PRICING. THAT WAS REALLY UNDER CAME THROUGH FOR OUR SURVEY. SO WE HAD TWO DIFFERENT CATEGORIES OF 20 TO $30 CATEGORY AND A 30 TO $40 CATEGORY. THOSE WERE THE TWO HIGHEST ONES WITH 20 TO 30 REALLY STEPPING AHEAD OF THAT A BIT. AND THEN OUR HIGHEST ATTENDED DAY AND PREFERRED DAY FOR THE FESTIVAL FROM THAT FEEDBACK WAS SATURDAY WITH THE HIGHEST ARRIVAL TIMES FROM THE SURVEY 3 TO 5 P.M. THAT IS ALSO SUPPORTED BY OUR TICKET ATTENDANCE DATA THAT WE HAVE. AND THEN WHEN WE LOOKED AT THAT INFORMATION, THE TOP ATTRACTIONS THAT CAME ABOUT FROM THE SURVEY WAS LIVE MUSIC AS WELL AS MARKETPLACE. AND THEN BELOW THAT WAS THE FOOD COURT AREA. AND THEN YOU'LL NOTICE WHAT'S LISTED FOR THE TOP MUSIC GENRE. WE HAD REPRESENTATION FROM EVERY GENRE LISTED IN THE SURVEY, BUT THE TOP WAS ROCK AT 82%. AND THEN WITH OUR ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDY, THIS WAS SOMETHING DONE IN THE 2025 SURVEY. WE DID BRING IN A THIRD PARTY CONTRACTOR TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS. IT WAS ARA ROSEN, LLC FESTIVAL AND EVENT CONSULTING. THEY CAME IN, AND THE WHOLE GOAL OF THIS SURVEY WAS TO DETERMINE WHAT THE FESTIVAL'S IMPACT WAS FOR
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THE RICHARDSON ECONOMY. AND AS YOU RECALL, 2025 WAS NOT THE BEST WEATHER YEAR FOR US. WE HAD THREE DAYS OF BAD WEATHER. HOWEVER, WE DID HAVE 11,088 ATTENDEES, AND OUT OF THOSE, WE HAD 315 SURVEYS COLLECTED THAT WERE COMPLETED THOROUGHLY. AND WITH THAT LEVEL OF COMPLETION, WE HAD A 90% RELIABILITY WITHIN A PLUS OR -5% MARGIN OF ERROR FOR OUR SURVEYS. AND SO LOOKING AT THIS REPORT, WHAT IT ACTUALLY INCORPORATED. OH. APOLOGIZE. WHAT IT ACTUALLY INCORPORATED WAS OUR TICKET REVENUE FROM THE FESTIVAL AS WELL AS OUR FESTIVAL NON-TICKET REVENUE. AND THEN THE FESTIVAL EXPENSES FROM WITHIN RICHARDSON. SO ESSENTIALLY WHAT THAT BULLET POINT MEANS IS ANY EXPENSE THAT THE CITY SPENT TO PUT THE FESTIVAL ON THAT CAME BACK TO RICHARDSON, SO SPENT WITH A VENDOR INSIDE OF RICHARDSON. THAT'S WHAT IT ACCOUNTED FOR.AND THEN IT LOOKED AT THE VISITOR AND VENDORS EXPENDITURE ANALYSIS. AND THAT WAS A SELF-REPORTED ANALYSIS. AND THEN WITH ANY ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDY THERE IS AN ECONOMIC MULTIPLIER. THIS STUDY ALSO DID SOME DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION AND SURVEY INFORMATION. SO WE WERE ABLE TO TO NOTE THAT 54% OF THE ATTENDEES THAT COMPLETED THE SURVEY WERE FIRST TIME ATTENDERS FOR WILDFLOWER. IN ADDITION, 90% OF OUR ATTENDEES AND 60% OF OUR VENDORS WERE WITHIN A 50 MILE RADIUS OF RICHARDSON. AND AS WELL. WITH THAT, WE NOTED THAT VERY FEW PEOPLE WHO COMPLETED THE SURVEY WERE COMING WITH CHILDREN TO THE FESTIVAL. BASED ON IT, IT WAS AN AVERAGE OF LESS THAN ONE CHILD PER GROUP. AND THEN OUR AGE BREAKDOWN. THIS WAS SHOWING THAT WE HAVE A VERY DIVERSE GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT COME TO THE FESTIVAL. HOWEVER, OUR BIGGEST AGE GROUP IS THE 25 TO 44 YEAR OLD AGE GROUP. SO OVERALL, THE FESTIVAL SATISFACTION FROM THE ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDY WAS AT A 4.7 SATISFACTION RATE OUT OF A FIVE.
THIS AGAIN, DOES CORRELATE WITH WHAT WE RECEIVED THROUGH THE JANUARY DATA DATA DATA THAT WE COLLECTED. SO LOOKING AT THE DIRECT LOCAL ECONOMIC IMPACT, THIS IS SOMETHING AGAIN, IT REFLECTS THE REVENUE RELATED TO THE FESTIVAL AND MONEY SPENT WITHIN RICHARDSON FROM THE ATTENDEES, THE VENDORS, THE FESTIVAL ITSELF, AND LOOKING AT REVENUES THAT WERE SPENT INSIDE THE FESTIVAL AND WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS. SO THIS CALCULATED AT A LITTLE OVER $2.5 MILLION.
NOW, THIS RESULT DOES ALIGN WITH NATIONAL ACCEPTABLE STANDARDS FOR CULTURAL AND ART BASED FESTIVALS. AND WHEN WE LOOKED AT ALL OF THIS INFORMATION COMBINED, WE DERIVED A COUPLE OF OPPORTUNITIES AND ACTIONABLE ITEMS. AND AGAIN, THIS WAS ACTIONABLE ITEMS THAT CAME OUT OF THE SURVEY, THE STUDY, AND THEN ALSO FROM PREVIOUS YEARS OBSERVATIONS. SO WHAT WE FELT LIKE WE COULD DO IS CLOSELY OBSERVE THE FESTIVAL ACTIVITIES TO GAIN A DEEPER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE FESTIVAL USE AND ENGAGEMENT WERE. SO GENERALLY, THIS IS SOMETHING WE DO EVERY YEAR, BUT WHAT WE DID THIS YEAR IS WE HAD EXTRA SETS OF EYES TO GO AND MONITOR EACH DIFFERENT ACTIVITY THAT WAS PUT IN PLACE TO SEE HOW IT IMPACTED THE FESTIVAL ATTENDANCE AND HOW IT WAS ACTUALLY BEING UTILIZED ON SITE. ADDITIONALLY, USE THIS INFORMATION TO CREATE AN ALTERNATIVE IMPLEMENTATION APPROACH FOR THE FESTIVAL BASED ON THAT COLLECTED FEEDBACK. AND THEN IMPLEMENT A STRATEGY FOCUSED ON IMPROVING THE FINANCIAL SUSTAINABILITY AND OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCY OF THE FESTIVAL. WE WANTED TO TAKE THIS AND DISCOVERED THAT WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES FOR REBRANDING THE FESTIVAL TO STRENGTHEN THE OVERALL PERFORMANCE AND COMMUNITY IMPACT. AND WITH THIS, WE DID IMPLEMENT SOME REBRANDING THIS YEAR, AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A LITTLE BIT. BUT YOU KNOW, THAT REBRANDING WAS AS SIMPLE AS THE GROVE AREA, CHANGING OUR WILDFLOWER KIDS TO A FAMILY FOCUSED ACTIVITY. SO THAT WAS A MEASURE AND AN EXAMPLE OF REBRANDING. ADDITIONALLY, LOOKING AT THE ADJUSTING THE MUSIC LINEUP. SO THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT CAME ABOUT BASED ON ACTUAL SCHEDULES AND THE GENRES OF MUSIC THAT WE, WE SHARE OR THAT WE HAVE AT THE FESTIVAL, AND BEING ABLE TO MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO IMPACT IT IN A POSITIVE MANNER. AND THEN ANOTHER ACTIONABLE ITEM IS STREAMLINING EVENT DAYS AND TIMES. AND THEN FURTHER EVALUATE PROGRAM OFFERINGS ASSOCIATED WITH THE FESTIVAL, DETERMINE WHICH PROGRAMS ARE
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NECESSARY THAT ACTUALLY CONTRIBUTE TO THE FESTIVAL BEING SUCCESSFUL AND THINGS THAT WE SHOULD CONTINUE FORWARD. I DO WANT TO SHARE THE BENCHMARK FESTIVAL'S. THE STUDY THAT WE DID. THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS COMPLETED BY MYSELF AND TWO OF OUR STAFF MEMBERS, DIANA AND SPENCER. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE FELT LIKE WAS IMPORTANT TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT OUR COMPETITORS ARE DOING IN THIS GENRE, IN THIS WORLD. SO WHEN WE WENT THROUGH AND WE LOOKED AT FESTIVALS, WE WERE ON A MISSION REALLY TO, TO FIND WHAT THE FOCUS WAS FOR OTHER FESTIVALS. AND WE WANTED TO LOOK AT FESTIVALS THAT WERE CITY RUN, THAT HAD MULTIPLE DAYS. OUR SEARCH, THOUGH, BROUGHT US TO SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT WIDER. SO I'M GOING TO SHARE THAT AND THEN I'LL NARROW IT DOWN MORE. BUT ESSENTIALLY WE FOUND 14 DIFFERENT FESTIVALS. 13 OF THOSE WERE WITHIN THE STATE.AND THOSE WERE ALL FESTIVALS THAT HAD A SIMILAR PURPOSE, ESSENTIALLY. BUT FROM THOSE FESTIVALS, WHAT WE FOUND IS TWO OF THEM WERE CAMPING FESTIVALS. THIS IS A BIG MARKET IN THE FESTIVAL WORLD, OBVIOUSLY NOT VERY COMPARABLE TO WHAT WE DO. SEVEN OF THE FESTIVALS WERE PRODUCED BY A PROMOTER, THREE PRODUCED BY A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION, THREE BY ANOTHER CITY, AND ONE WHICH WAS CO-PRODUCED BY A CITY AND A PROMOTER. SO THAT WAS A HYBRID MODEL. AND OUT OF THOSE FESTIVALS THAT WE WE ORIGINALLY FOUND, THEY RANGE FROM ONE DAY TO SIX DAYS, WITH THE MAJORITY OF THEM BEING HELD TWO DAYS OR LESS. SO THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE BREAKDOWN OF THE SURVEY OR THE OTHER CITIES THAT WE OR OTHER FESTIVALS, I'M SORRY THAT WE LOOKED AT. AND FROM THE. 14 WE NARROWED IT DOWN TO SEVEN FESTIVALS THAT WE FELT LIKE WERE SIMILAR IN NATURE TO WILDFLOWER. COMPARING THESE, WE HIGHLIGHTED THE DAYS THAT THEY WERE OFFERED, THE HOURS THAT THEY WERE OFFERED, WHAT THE FESTIVAL FOCUS WAS, THE NUMBER OF STAGES THEY HAD, HOW THEY WERE PRODUCED, THE TICKETING COST, AND WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAD A VIP OPTION. SO YOU'LL NOTE THAT TWO OF THESE FESTIVALS LISTED ARE THROUGH A PRODUCTION COMPANY, AND THOSE DO HAVE A HIGHER TICKET RATE FOR PEOPLE TO GET IN. AND I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE THE PRICES LISTED HERE ARE THE STARTING RATES FOR THOSE. THOSE ARE TIERED TO GO UP HIGHER. AND ONLY ONE OF THE SEVEN IS A THREE DAY EVENT. AND ON THAT THIRD DAY ON THE SUNDAY, IT WAS THE RED POPPY FESTIVAL. THEIR SUNDAY IS CONSIDERED MORE OF A RELAXED DAY WITH VERY LIMITED PROGRAMING, MORE FOCUS ON SHOPPING, SHOPPING OF THE MARKETPLACE, VENDORS AS WELL AS THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS AREAS. SO I WILL POINT OUT TOO, THERE'S VERY FEW LISTED ON HERE THAT DO HAVE A VIP AREA. SO WE FELT LIKE WE NEEDED TO EXTEND OUR RESEARCH A LITTLE BIT MORE. AND WE BRANCHED OUT TO LOOK AT OTHER FESTIVALS ON A NATIONAL LEVEL WHO DO HAVE VIP AREAS WITHIN THEIR FESTIVAL. SO WITH THAT, WE FOUND MORE THAN FOUR, BUT THESE FOUR WERE REALLY MORE IN ALIGNMENT WITH WHAT WILDFLOWER IS. AND WHAT YOU'LL NOTICE ON THIS IS THERE'S A WIDE RANGE OF FESTIVAL AMENITIES THAT ARE BEING OFFERED, THE COST OF THE PACKAGE AND THE WAY THE PACKAGE IS SOLD. SO SOME OF THEM ARE SOLD BY DAY, SOME BY TWO DAYS, ONE BY A THREE DAY PACKAGE. THE PRICE RANGE FOR THESE VIP OPPORTUNITIES ARE ANYWHERE FROM $135 PER DAY TO $489 PER DAY. THE DELIVERY FOCUS IS REALLY MORE ON WHAT AMENITIES AND CONVENIENCES ARE BEING OFFERED. AS A VIP TICKET HOLDER. SOME OF THOSE INCLUDE FOOD AND BEVERAGE VENDORS, SO FIRST, ACCESS PRIVATE ACCESS, IF YOU WILL, TO FOOD AND VENDORS, AS WELL AS VIEWING AREA AREAS, THE WATER REFILL STATIONS AND OTHER ACTIVITIES THAT ARE GOING ON. SO MORE THAN ANYTHING, WHAT THIS TOLD US IS BETWEEN THESE TWO SLIDES IS EVERY FESTIVAL IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT, AND THEY'RE CATERING TO WHAT THEIR COMMUNITY NEEDS ARE AND TO WHAT THAT NICHE OFFERING IS. SO THIS WAS VERY HELPFUL FOR US. IT GAVE SOME INSIGHT, BUT IT ALSO LET US KNOW RICHARDSON IS WHAT THE FOCUS IS BASED ON HOW WE OFFER OUR PACKAGES. SO NOW I WANT TO MOVE INTO OUR 2026 FESTIVAL DATA. AND I'M GOING TO START WITH YOU WITH SOME OF THE MODIFICATIONS THAT WE MADE THIS YEAR. SO AS A REMINDER, THESE MODIFICATIONS CAME ABOUT FROM OBSERVATIONS THAT WE HAD FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR, AS WELL AS CUSTOMER FEEDBACK AND THEN FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVED THROUGH OUR DIFFERENT VENDORS AND OUR STAKEHOLDERS AND THROUGH THEIR SURVEYS. SO THE FIRST MODIFICATION THAT WE MADE WAS STAGE SCHEDULE, TIMELINE. WE ADJUSTED THE TIME THAT THE NATIONAL HEADLINERS WERE GOING
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ON TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WAS MORE TIME IN BETWEEN THE START OF THOSE HEADLINERS. SO CUSTOMERS HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO VIEW BOTH STAGES WITHOUT MISSING MORE OF ANY ONE PERFORMANCE. AND THEN WE ADJUSTED THE WILDFLOWER KIDS AREA. WE NOTICED THAT FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR, THERE WASN'T AS MUCH ENGAGEMENT IN THE KIDS AREA, AND WE FELT LIKE IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT TO PULL IN THE FAMILY FOCUSED ACTIVITIES SO FAMILIES COULD ENJOY IT.TOGETHER WITH THAT, WE BROUGHT IN THE SILENT DISCO AND THE RETRO ARCADE, AND THEN SOME OF THE SMALLER CHANGES THAT WE MADE INCLUDED SHUFFLING, PLACEMENT OF OUR FOOD VENDORS AND OUR EXHIBITORS, AS WELL AS OUR CORNHOLE TOURNAMENT. WE BROUGHT IN A THIRD PARTY CONTRACTOR, A PARTNERED GROUP, IF YOU WILL, TO HELP RUN THAT, AND BY DOING SO, WE WERE ABLE TO TAKE STAFF AND PUT THEM INTO ANOTHER AREA WHERE BEFORE OUR STAFF INTERNALLY RAN THAT CORNHOLE TOURNAMENT, AND THEN WE MODIFIED SOME TICKET PRICING SO THAT OUR VIP TICKET PRICING WENT FROM OUR THREE DAY PACKAGE FROM A COUPLE. SO THE TICKETS WERE GOOD FOR TWO PEOPLE TO THIS YEAR. IT WAS GOOD FOR ONE PERSON. THAT ALLOWED US TO ALIGN SOME OF OUR TICKET SALES AND OUR PROCESSES. BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAD OUR SUNDAY TICKET DAY WHERE THERE WAS NO CHARGE FOR THE TICKETS ON SUNDAY, WITH HOPES OF INCREASING ATTENDANCE. AND THEN LASTLY, W DID A DEEP DIVE ON ALL OF OUR INTERNAL OPERATIONS. OUR GOAL FOR THIS WAS TO REDUCE THE OVERTIME EXPENSES. WITH THIS PROCESS, WE REDUCED VARIOUS POSITIONS AND WE MODIFIED HOW WE HANDLED PRE FESTIVAL WORK AS WELL AS POST FESTIVAL DISMANTLING. THIS WAS NOT JUST A PARKS AND RECREATION PROJECT. THIS WAS CITYWIDE. EVERY DEPARTMENT PARTICIPATED IN THIS, AND IT WAS A JOINT EFFORT TO FIND ALL THE EFFICIENCIES THAT WE WERE ABLE TO. AND NOW, JUMPING INTO WILDFLOWER ATTENDANCE, THIS CHART GIVES YOU A SEVEN YEAR HISTORY OF OUR ATTENDANCE AND OUR TICKET REVENUE. I DO WANT TO POINT OUT A FEW THINGS BEFORE I ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT THE 2026 NUMBERS. WHEN WE LOOK AT TICKETS SOLD, I WANT TO POINT OUT FOR 2026, THIS DOES INCLUDE THE FREE TICKETS BECAUSE THE WAY WE TRACK THIS IS IF YOU REACHED OUT TO ACQUIRE TICKET, WE COUNTED THAT AS A SALE. SO THIS WAY OUR NUMBERS WOULD BE TRACKED IN A SOMEWHAT CONSISTENT MANNER FROM YEAR TO YEAR. AND THIS HELPED US WITH THE MANAGING SOFTWARE TO BE ABLE TO TRACK HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE COMING. BUT IT ALSO ALLOWED US TO IDENTIFY WHAT OUR EXPECTATIONS WOULD BE FOR THE SUNDAY ATTENDANCE, AND TO BE PROPERLY PREPARED FOR THAT AND TO BE ABLE TO MONITOR IT. WHEN YOU SEE THE TOTAL ATTENDANCE.
THESE NUMBERS INCLUDE ALL TICKETS SCANNED, AND THAT ALSO ACCOUNTS FOR OUR VOLUNTEERS WHO WERE WORKING THE EVENT, AS WELL AS ANYBODY WHO WAS A CREDENTIAL HOLDER. SO OUR CREDENTIAL HOLDERS ACCOUNT FOR OUR VENDORS, OUR STAFF, AND ALSO SOME OF OUR PROPERTY PARTNERS THAT ARE ON SITE. AND THEN WE LISTED OUT THE VARIOUS YEAR'S IMPACTS. SO WHETHER IT WAS A WEATHER IMPACT OR FOR 2026, IT WAS A FREE SUNDAY. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT ALLOWS US, FOR HISTORY PURPOSES TO BE ABLE TO GO BACK AND RECOGNIZE. WHAT IMPACT DID THE FESTIVAL THAT YEAR, AND I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THIS ONE LAST THING IS WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SCANNED TICKETS, YOU WILL NOTICE THAT IN SOME YEARS OUR SCAN TICKETS ARE HIGHER THAN OUR TICKETS SOLD. THE REASON FOR THAT IS THERE ARE A LOT OF PROMOTIONAL TICKETS THAT WE GIVE OUT FOR VARIOUS REASONS THROUGH VARIOUS AVENUES, AND THOSE PROMOTIONAL TICKETS, WHEN THEY ARE REDEEMED, BECOMES A SCAN TICKET, BUT THEY WERE NOT TECHNICALLY PURCHASED. SO I DO WANT TO POINT THAT OUT TO YOU NOW, JUMPING STRAIGHT INTO THE 2026 NUMBERS TICKETS SOLD, WE HAD OVER 17,000 TICKETS SOLD.
WE HAD OVER 13,000 THAT WERE ACTUALLY SCANNED IN. AND THEN OUR ATTENDANCE NUMBER OVERALL WAS 18,164. YOU'LL ALSO NOTICE WITH OUR REVENUE FOR FOR THIS YEAR, OUR REVENUE WAS SLIGHTLY DOWN FROM LAST YEAR. WE DO FEEL LIKE THAT WAS BECAUSE THE SUNDAY TICKETS WERE FREE, SO NO REVENUE WAS BROUGHT IN FOR GENERAL ADMISSION TICKETS ON SUNDAY. NOW THIS CHART SHOWS YOU OUR TICKETS SOLD VERSUS THE TICKETS REDEEMED. YOU WILL NOTE ON THIS FOR FRIDAY AND SATURDAY.
THEY WERE VERY SIMILAR IN NATURE OF HOW MANY PEOPLE CAME INTO THE FESTIVAL COMPARED TO HOW MANY PEOPLE ACTUALLY BOUGHT TICKETS. AND I WILL SAY AGAIN THAT THE SCAN TICKETS ARE TICKETS THAT WERE SOLD, AS WELL AS FREE TICKETS THAT WERE GIVEN OUT. AND THAT DOES ACCOUNT FOR BOTH THE GENERAL ADMISSION AND THE VIP TICKETS. NOW, WHEN WE LOOK AT SUNDAY, WE DID HAVE A DEFINITE SPIKE WHERE SUNDAY WE HAD 8900 TICKETS THAT WERE SOLD OR REQUESTED, BUT ONLY 2900
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THAT WERE REDEEMED. SO A FEW THINGS TO LOOK AT ON THAT SIDE IS WHEN WE LOOK AT THE FESTIVAL NUMBERS, SATURDAY IS OUR BIGGEST DAY OF THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY CAME IN.HOWEVER, FRIDAY IS A FIVE HOUR FESTIVAL DAY. AND THEN WHEN WE LOOK AT SATURDAY, THAT IS AN 11 HOUR DAY. SO THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE ON THE AMOUNT OF TIME THROUGHOUT THAT DAY. AND THEN WITH OUR FREE TICKETS, THAT DID DRAW INTEREST, BY ALL MEANS, PEOPLE REDEEM THOSE TICKETS. THEY REQUESTED THEM, BUT THAT DID NOT NECESSARILY TRANSLATE TO MORE PEOPLE ON SITE. IT DID GIVE US MORE PEOPLE THAN IN PREVIOUS YEARS. BUT THE ONE THING THAT WE NOTICED WHEN WE WALKED THROUGH AND WATCHED ALL THE DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES IS WE HAD MORE ATTENDEES AT THE BATTLE OF THE BANDS AND THE BUDDING TALENTS THIS YEAR THAN WE HAVE HAD IN PREVIOUS YEARS. AND WHEN WE WATCHED WHERE THOSE INDIVIDUALS WENT AFTER THOSE COMPETITIONS, TYPICALLY MOST OF THEM LEFT THE FESTIVAL. AT THAT POINT, THEY DID NOT STAY AND LINGER, WHICH WE WERE HOPING THEY WOULD. SO THAT WAS VERY INTERESTING TO SEE FROM THAT STANDPOINT. NOW, MOVING INTO THE BUDGET SIDE, THIS IS A LOT OF WORK, AND I DO WANT TO GIVE CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE ON THIS ONE. DIANA LAWRENCE WORKED EXTREMELY HARD TO PULL ALL OF THESE NUMBERS TOGETHER AND TO, TO WRAP UP OUR BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR, WE ARE EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO SAY THAT WE DID HAVE A REDUCTION IN OUR EXPENSES FOR BOTH GENERAL FUND AND OUR HOTEL MOTEL FUNDS. AND AS WELL, I HAD MENTIONED THAT WE WORKED REALLY HARD TO TRY TO MAKE SOME SAVINGS IN THE OVERTIME, AND THAT IS REFLECTED IN THIS BUDGET. SO OUR TOTAL EXPENSES FOR 2026 CAME OUT TO BE $2,207,941. SO AGAIN, THAT IS FROM LAST YEAR, $200,000 SAVINGS, MORE SO FROM 2024. I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT ON THIS CHART THAT IN 22 AND 23, WE DID NOT HAVE THE PLAZA STAGE. SO TO COMPARE THESE EQUALLY, YOU REALLY HAVE TO LOOK AT 24, 25 AND 26 TO HAVE MATCHING NUMBERS. AND THEN WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR REVENUE, THIS INCLUDES BOTH OUR SPONSORSHIP REVENUE AND ALL OF OUR FESTIVAL SALES. SO THIS WAS UNDER PREVIOUS YEAR'S REVENUE.
WE CAME OUT TO $585,980 ALL TOGETHER. THIS CREATED A SUBSIDY FOR THE FESTIVAL OF $1.6 MILLION. SO 1,621,981. AGAIN, THAT WAS LESS THAN PREVIOUS YEARS OF A SUBSIDY. SO THIS WAS SOMETHING I KNOW WE HAD WORKED EXTREMELY HARD TO MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO. SO MOVING INTO OUR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR FUTURE YEARS, THAT GIVES YOU KIND OF THE HISTORY WHERE WE WERE. NOW WE WANT TO LOOK FORWARD OF SOME POTENTIAL IDEAS. HOWEVER, BEFORE I JUMP INTO THAT, I DO WANT TO TELL YOU SOME CONSIDERATIONS THAT WE AS A STAFF AND AS A CITY TOOK IN PLACE BEFORE WE DEVELOPED OUR OUR RECOMMENDATIONS. SO WE LOOKED AT OUR COMMUNITY AND ATTENDEE SURVEY RESULTS. WE TOOK THAT INFORMATION ALONG WITH OUR STAKEHOLDER INPUT AND FEEDBACK AS WELL WITH OUR HISTORICAL ATTENDANCE AND FINANCIAL PERFORMANCE, INCLUDING THOSE SCAN REPORTS THAT WE CAN GET FROM OUR TICKETING SYSTEM. AND THEN WE LOOKED AT EVENT OPERATING EXPENSES, WHERE ARE OUR EXPENSES THAT WE HAVE, AND WHERE DO WE HAVE ABILITY TO GENERATE REVENUE? WE ALSO LOOKED AT THE RETURN OF INVESTMENT ON ACTIVITIES AND SERVICES THAT WERE OFFERED AS PART OF THE FESTIVAL, OUR SITE LOGISTICS AND OUR OPERATIONAL IMPACTS, OUR STAFF OVERTIME AS WELL AS THAT STAFF IMPACT FOR THE THE EVENT. BUT MORE THAN ANYTHING, WE WERE LOOKING AT HOW DO WE PRESERVE THE UNIQUE IDENTITY OF WILDFLOWER? FOR US, WE WANT IT TO MAINTAIN THE ESSENCE OF WILDFLOWER AND WHATEVER PROPOSALS WE BROUGHT FORWARD TO YOU. SO THESE WERE THE AREAS THAT WE KEPT IN THE FOREFRONT WHEN WE WERE DEVELOPING THESE IDEAS. AND SO LOOKING AT THE RECOMMENDATIONS, I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A SUMMARY, AND THEN WE'LL DO A DEEP DIVE IN EACH OF THESE AREAS. SO TO START WITH. MOVING INTO THESE, WE'RE PROPOSING A DISCONTINUATION OF THE SUNDAY PROGRAMING, MODIFYING HOURS FOR FRIDAY AND SATURDAY TO ALIGN WITH THE ATTENDANCE PATTERNS, BUT ALSO TO CREATE A CONSISTENCY BETWEEN THE TWO DAYS AND THEN CONSOLIDATE ENTERTAINMENT BY ELIMINATING THE PLAZA STAGE, RECONFIGURING THE FESTIVAL FOOTPRINT, AND THEN ADJUSTING OUR VIP DISTRIBUTION. AND SOMETHING, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THAT WE DO WITH EVERY EVENT, IS WE WILL CONTINUALLY EVALUATE THE EVENT TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS AND FINE
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TUNE IT AS WE MOVE THROUGH. THAT WILL BE NO DIFFERENT FOR FUTURE YEARS OF WILDFLOWER. OUR GOAL IS TO ALWAYS MAINTAIN THE QUALITY AND THE ATTENDEE EXPERIENCE. SO STARTING OUT, WHEN WE LOOK AT SUNDAY, SUNDAY HAS BEEN A CONTINUAL STRUGGLE FOR US TO IMPROVE THE ATTENDANCE FOR A VARIETY OF EFFORTS THAT WE PUT FORWARD. WE'RE STILL STRUGGLING WITH IMPROVING THE OVERALL ATTENDANCE OF THAT DAY. SO I WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE HAD ATTEMPTED OVER THE YEARS. AS YOU KNOW, THIS PAST YEAR, WE DID HAVE THE FREE SUNDAY IN HOPES THAT THAT WOULD REMOVE ALL OBSTACLES FOR PEOPLE TO ATTEND. WHAT WAS NOTED IS WE DID HAVE AN INCREASE IN OUR COMMUNITY ACTIVITIES. HOWEVER, WE DID NOT SEE GUESTS STAYING MUCH LONGER AFTER THOSE GIVEN PERFORMANCES. AND THEN IN THE PAST, WE'VE HAD A SUNDAY FUN DAY CORPORATE PACKAGE. THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WE IMPLEMENTED IN 2018. IT WAS A FIRST YEAR FOR US TO DO IT. WE WERE ABLE TO SELL THAT PACKAGE IN 2018 AND 2019, BUT SINCE COVID, WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO SUCCESSFULLY SELL THAT PACKAGE.BUT THAT WAS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR CORPORATIONS TO BRING THEIR EMPLOYEES OUT THROUGH AN EMPLOYEE APPRECIATION EVENT WITH US DOING THE WORK AND THEM HAVING ALL THE FUN. AND THEN OTHER AREAS THAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE TRIED TO ADJUST THE GENRE OF MUSIC. SO LOOKING AT GENRES THAT BROUGHT IN A POSITIVE ATTENDANCE, WE TRIED TO REPLICATE THAT ON SUNDAY. WITH THAT. YOU KNOW, WE HAD LITTLE BUMPS IN ATTENDANCE, BUT NOTHING REALLY TO SPEAK OF. AND THEN PRE-COVID, WE HAD A SPONSORED KIDS FREE DAY FOR SUNDAY. SO WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR FAMILIES TO COME OUT WITH LESS OF AN IMPACT ON A FINANCIAL STANDPOINT FROM THEM. POST COVID, WE HAD MADE THE DECISION TO HAVE CHILDREN UNDER 12 FREE ALL THREE DAYS.
SO AGAIN, WE LOOKED AT HOW DO WE ADJUST THIS FOR THE PATRONS? AND THEN WE ALSO INCREASED THE AMOUNT THAT WE SPENT ON THE HEADLINERS AND BROUGHT IN A REALLY COOL RETRO OLD SCHOOL BAND, HOPING THAT THAT WOULD BRING IN MORE PEOPLE. AND IT DID NOT. SO ADDITIONAL.
ADDITIONALLY, LISTENING, LISTENING FOR FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVED, WE DO A VENDOR SURVEY, A MARKETPLACE SURVEY EVERY YEAR AS PART OF OUR FESTIVAL WRAP UP. THE ONE THING THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM THE VENDOR SURVEYS, AND WE'VE SEEN IT IN OUR CASH OUT REPORTS THAT OUR SALES ON SUNDAY ARE MUCH LOWER. OUR VENDORS HAVE A HIGH LEVEL OF DISSATISFACTION IN REGARDS TO THE ATTENDANCE, THE SALES, AND THEN THE TIME COMMITMENT THAT THEY ARE SPENDING AT THE FESTIVAL ON THAT DAY. THE OTHER NOTE THAT I'D LIKE TO MAKE IS THE BENEFICIAL AREAS OF SUNDAY, WHICH IN OUR MIND ARE THE COMMUNITY RELATED COMPONENTS. SO THE BATTLE OF THE BANDS, THE BUDDING TALENTS, THOSE ARE AREAS FOR US THAT WE FEEL LIKE CAN BE RESCHEDULED AND ABSORBED INTO ANOTHER PART OF THE FESTIVAL. THOSERE IMPORTANT TO OUR WILDFLOWER BRAND, BUT THEY'RE ALSO IMPORTANT BECAUSE THEY ARE HELPING TO FOSTER THE ARTS AND YOUTH, AND WE FEEL LIKE THAT IS AN INVESTMENT BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY OF RICHARDSON, SO THOSE CAN BE ABSORBED INTO A DIFFERENT DAY, TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THIS LAST PART IS THE IMPACT THAT WE HAVE ON THE PROPERTY OWNERS, THE RESIDENTS AND THE BUSINESSES IN THAT AREA. BY REDUCING SUNDAY, THE FESTIVAL IMPACT IS REDUCED AND WE ARE ABLE TO RETURN THE GROUND SOONER TO ALL OF THOSE STAKEHOLDERS. FINALLY, REDUCING SUNDAY WOULD HAVE A REDUCTION ON STAFF OVERTIME AND SITE EXPENSES, SO THERE WOULD BE MORE OF A SAVINGS AS WELL. AND I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THIS CHART. THIS CHART SHOWS THE LAST THREE YEARS OF WILDFLOWER ATTENDANCE PER DAY. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS, YOU'LL OF COURSE IN 2025 THAT WAS A BAD WEATHER YEAR. I DO WANT TO POINT THAT OUT. SO 24 AND 26, BOTH GOOD WEATHER EVENTS. YOU CAN SEE A SIGNIFICANT VARIANCE BASED ON THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ATTEND FROM DAY TO DAY. 2026 WAS DEFINITELY AN IMPROVEMENT, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE ON SUNDAY. BUT AS I ALSO MENTIONED, THERE WAS A DISTINCT INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ATTENDED THOSE TWO COMMUNITY EVENTS. AND FOR THE EXPENSES THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH SUNDAY AND THE LACK OF POSITIVE RESPONSES THAT WE'VE HAD FROM THE VARIOUS EFFORTS THAT HAVE MADE, WE FEEL LIKE SUNDAY IS NOT A SUSTAINABLE DAY TO MAINTAIN. SO OUR NEXT RECOMMENDATION IS ELIMINATING THE PLAZA STAGE.
THIS ADJUSTMENT IS REALLY BASED ON SEVERAL FACTORS, BUT ONE, SINCE THE EXPANSION OF THE APARTMENT COMPLEXES IN THAT AREA IN THE GALLATIN AREA, THE REINTRODUCTION OF THE PLAZA
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STAGE BROUGHT IT BACK WITH A SMALLER FOOTPRINT. SO WITH THAT SMALLER FOOTPRINT, IT'S REALLY THAT SPACE IS NOT AS COMFORTABLE. THERE'S DEFINITELY NO BREEZE THAT'S COMING THROUGH IT. JUST AS A BYSTANDER OR AUDIENCE MEMBER. IT'S IT'S NOT A COMFORT. WE ALSO ARE UNABLE TO HAVE A VIP AREA IN THAT SPACE. BUT WITH THAT AS WELL, THERE IS A RESTRICTION ON THE BACKSTAGE AREA AND THE SPACE THAT WE PROVIDE FOR OUR ABANDONED STAGE SUPPORTS. THE BUILDING ALSO CREATES A REVERBERANT SOUND TO IT. WE'VE HAD TO WORK VERY HARD WITH OUR PRODUCTION COMPANY TO ISOLATE THAT, TO AVOID THAT. THIS YEAR, I FEEL LIKE WE DID A REALLY GOOD JOB ON THAT, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY HAVE TO BE VERY DILIGENT ON. SO THE PLAZA STAGE ON AVERAGE FOR THE STAGE, THE PRODUCTION AND THE ENTERTAINMENT COMES OUT TO BE AN AVERAGE OF $325,000. BUT WE ALSO LOOK AT IT FROM THE STANDPOINT IS, IS THERE A SIGNIFICANCE IN THAT REVENUE RETURN FOR THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT? SO REDUCING THAT STAGE WOULD ALLOW FOR A REDUCTION OF THE FOOTPRINT OF THE FESTIVAL IN GENERAL, AND IT WOULD ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL SAVINGS ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT. 325,000 THAT I MENTIONED. IT WOULD ALSO REDUCE THE CONFLICTING, CONFLICTING SCHEDULES BETWEEN THE TWO NATIONAL HEADLINERS. BUT WITH THIS RECOMMENDATION, WE WOULD ALSO PROPOSE A CHANGE WITH OUR CAR BACKSTAGE, AND I'LL SHOW YOU THAT IN A LITTLE BIT. BUT I DO WANT TO POINT OUT, WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR CAR BOX STAGE AND OUR PLAZA STAGE, THERE ARE TWO ADDITIONAL SIZES IN BETWEEN THOSE STAGES. SO WE FEEL LIKE WE HAVE SOME OPPORTUNITIES IN THIS AREA AS WELL. SO THIS IS OUR PRETTY MAP. THIS MAP IS REALLY SHOWING YOU WHAT THE FESTIVAL WOULD BE WITH WHAT I JUST DESCRIBED TO YOU. I WANT TO NOTE THAT WE FEEL VERY CONFIDENT THAT THIS HOLDS ON TO THE ESSENCE OF WHAT WILDFLOWER IS, BUT TO GIVE YOU A BREAKDOWN OF IT, THIS WOULD HAVE FOUR STAGES. THE RED DASHED AREAS ARE THE AREAS, THE FOOTPRINT OF WHAT WILDFLOWER WOULD BECOME IF THIS WAS THE RECOMMENDED. IF THIS WAS WAS ACCEPTED AS A RECOMMENDATION. SO AS YOU'LL NOTE, THE PLAZA AREA IS REMOVED FROM IT. YOU'LL ALSO SEE THE PRIVATE DRIVE BY BUILDINGS D AND C OF GALLATIN COMMONS. WE NO LONGER ARE EXTENDING INTO THAT SPACE, BUT WITH THIS LAYOUT WE ARE ABLE TO STILL KEEP THE ICEMAN CENTER INCORPORATED, KEEP IT FULLY ENGAGED, AND STILL HAVE THE ART GUITAR AUCTION, THE RETRO ARCADE, THE HILL HALL, AND THE BANK OF AMERICA THEATER IN THAT IN THAT LOCATION. AND THEN WE WOULD STILL BLE TO DO THE PERFORMANCE ROW AND PERFORMANCE DRIVE ACTIVITIES. AND AS I MENTIONED, MOVING THAT CAR BOX STAGE SLIGHTLY. AND ON THIS MAP, IT'S CALLED STAGE TWO, AN OUTDOOR STAGE, BY MOVING IT IN THE DIRECTION THAT WE HAVE IT, THAT OPENS UP A MUCH WIDER AREA FOR AUDIENCE PARTICIPATION AND SEATING. IT ALLOWS US TO HAVE THAT LARGER AUDIENCE, BUT IT ALSO ALLOWS US TO HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY. AS I MENTIONED, THERE'S OTHER STAGE SIZES. IF WE FELT THE NEED TO GROW THAT STAGE SIZE SIZE, WE WOULD HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY. THIS ALSO BECOMES KIND OF AN END CAP TO THE STREET, AND IT REDUCES THE NEED FOR A GATEWAY IN THIS SPACE, WHICH IS ALSO ANOTHER EXPENSE. THE METHODIST STAGE AND THE AMPHITHEATER AREA WOULD NOT BE IMPACTED. NOW I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU AN ADDITIONAL SLIDE.THIS KIND OF BREAKS IT DOWN MORE TO SHOW YOU WHERE PLACEMENT OF THINGS COULD POTENTIALLY GO WITH THIS MODEL. THIS WOULD BE A FRIDAY SATURDAY FESTIVAL FROM 3 P.M. TO 11 P.M.
AGAIN, WE WOULD HAVE THE FOUR STAGES. AS I MENTIONED, THE EISMANN CENTER WOULD BE INCLUDED. WE WOULD BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THE GROVE AREA, AND WE WOULD RECONFIGURE THE MARKETPLACE AND THE VENDORS AND FOOD VENDORS. SO YOU COULD SEE, BASED ON THIS MAP, HOW WE WOULD POTENTIALLY LAY THIS OUT. AS AN EXAMPLE. WITH THIS LAYOUT. TWO, WE WITH THE THREE TO ELEVEN P M HOURS, THIS WOULD CREATE THAT CONSISTENCY IN THE HOURS FROM DAY TO DAY. SO IT'D BE EASIER FOR OUR CUSTOMERS TO REMEMBER WHAT TIME THE FESTIVAL STARTS. IT ALSO HAS THE CONSISTENT NUMBER OF HOURS THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO STILL INCORPORATE THE SINGER SONGWRITER CONTEST, OUR BATTLE BANDS, THE BUDDING TALENTS, AND THEN OUR NATIONAL HEADLINERS WOULD STILL STAY ON THE STAGE. BUT WE FEEL LIKE WITH THIS RECOMMENDED OPTION, IT DEFINITELY WILL HOLD ON TO ALL THE FAN FAVORITES OF WILDFLOWER AND MAINTAIN THAT THAT FEEL OF THE EVENT. SO NOW JUMPING INTO THE BUDGET SIDE, WHAT I'M SHOWING YOU ON THIS SLIDE IS A COMPARISON OF THE
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LAST TWO YEARS, ACTUAL EXPENSES AND REVENUES COMPARED TO WHAT OUR RECOMMENDED CHANGES COULD POTENTIALLY BE. THIS BUDGET, I DO WANT TO SAY, REFLECTS A VERY CONSERVATIVE APPROACH ON REVENUE, BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY CHANGES IN THIS. WE DID WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE UNDERPROMISING AND HOPEFULLY WILL OVER DELIVER ON THIS PROCESS, BUT THIS BUDGET, WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS, OUR GENERAL FUND EXPENSES HAVE DROPPED SIGNIFICANTLY. THE HOTEL, HOTEL, MOTEL FUNDS WOULD STAY FLAT AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE A SAVINGS IN OUR OVERTIME EXPENSES. AND THEN WHEN WE LOOK AT THE REVENUE, THIS IS ACCOUNTING FOR A 3000 TICKET SALE PER DAY AT $15 PER TICKET, AS WELL AS OUR SPONSORSHIP LEVELS. AND SO OVERALL, WITH THIS BUDGET, WE ARE LOOKING AT A SUBSIDY THAT HAS DROPPED IN HALF, ESSENTIALLY $805,000 WOULD BE OUR SUBSIDY LEVEL, WHERE PREVIOUSLY IT WAS 1.6 MILLION. SO WITH THIS, WE ALSO ANTICIPATE THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE SOME FURTHER SAVINGS AFTER THE FIRST YEAR IF THIS RECOMMENDATION WAS APPROVED. WE FEEL LIKE AFTER THAT FIRST YEAR, STAFF WOULD HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING AND A BETTER SETUP FOR THE LAYOUT OF EVERYTHING, AND WE COULD FIND MORE EFFICIENCIES AS WE MOVE THROUGH IT. SO ONE LAST ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATION TO CONSIDER IS INVOLVING OUR VIP TICKET AREA. SO CURRENTLY THERE'S A LIMIT OF HOW MANY VIP TICKETS THAT WE ARE ABLE TO SELL BASED ON THE CAPACITY AND LIMITATIONS TO SPACE THAT WE HAVE FOR THE VIP AREA. CURRENTLY WE SELL 215 TICKETS. WE ALSO PROVIDE TICKETS TO OUR EVENT SPONSORS, AND THOSE SPONSORS RECEIVE TICKETS BASED ON WHAT THEIR DONATION, THEIR SPONSORSHIP, THEIR GIVE IS. SO THERE'S A FORMULA THAT WE USE TO MAKE SURE THAT IS FAIRLY DISTRIBUTED, AND THEN WE GIVE TICKETS TO OUR STRATEGIC PARTNERS. AND THOSE INCLUDE OUR DIGNITARIES, OUR LOCAL OFFICIALS AND VARIOUS PARTNERS. THIS CHART SHOWS THE BREAKDOWN BETWEEN THOSE VIP TICKETS. AND YOU CAN SEE THERE IS AN IMBALANCE IN THIS. WE WOULD RECOMMEND A REBALANCING OF THE VIP DISTRIBUTION BY REDUCING THE NUMBER OF TICKETS THAT GO TO OUR STRATEGIC PARTNERS AND INCREASING THE NUMBER OF TICKETS THAT WE SELL. THIS WOULD ALLOW FOR A BETTER COST RECOVERY FOR THE VIP EXPENSES SPECIFICALLY. SO TO BREAK THAT DOWN, THIS FIRST CHART, THE VIP TICKET DISTRIBUTION. THIS SHOWS HOW MANY TICKETS WENT TO OUR STRATEGIC PARTNERS IN 2026 AND WHAT WE WOULD PROPOSE FOR FUTURE YEARS. SO AGAIN, STRATEGIC PARTNERS, WE GAVE OUT 880 TICKETS. WE WOULD PROPOSE 600 FOR NEXT YEAR. THE SPONSORSHIP WE WOULD LEAVE THAT THE SAME. WE DO FEEL LIKE WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GROW THAT SPONSORSHIP, SO WE DON'T FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD ADJUST THAT, BUT THE TICKETS AVAILABLE FOR SALE WOULD GO FROM 215 TO 400. I DO WANT TO POINT OUT, I RECOGNIZE THAT THE MATH THAT THE BOTTOM IS NOT EQUAL. PART OF THAT IS BECAUSE IF I'M GIVING AWAY FREE TICKETS, THE LIKELIHOOD OF REDEMPTION DOES REDUCE. IF SOMEBODY IS PURCHASING A TICKET, THE LIKELIHOOD OF REDEMPTION INCREASES. SO WE RECOGNIZE THE FACT THAT THIS IS 95 VIP BANDS LESS, BUT WE ALSO ACCOUNT FOR THAT IN HOW WE BUDGET AND PLAN FOR OUR CATERING NEEDS. AND WE KNOW THAT IF I'M SELLING 400 TICKETS, I WILL PROBABLY HAVE MORE OF THOSE THAT ARE COMIN ON SITE. NOW, WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS NEXT CHART FOR THE THE BUDGET COMPARISON, POINTING OUT 2026 IS FOR A THREE DAY FESTIVAL. SO OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE MORE EXPENSES WITH THE THREE DAY FESTIVAL THAN THERE ARE FOR A TWO DAY FESTIVAL. BUT PROPOSING THIS CHANGE OF RESTRUCTURING, HOW THE TICKETS ARE GIVEN OUT AND HOW MANY WE'RE ABLE TO SELL, THAT INCREASES OUR REVENUE AS WELL AS IT REDUCES OUR EXPENDITURES, BECAUSE NOT ONLY ARE WE CUTTING SUNDAY WITH THE OUR RECOMMENDATION CHANGE, IT IS REDUCING HOW MANY CATERED MEALS WE HAVE. SO OUR COST RECOVERY GOES FROM A 68% TO 116%. THE ONE POINT THAT I DO WANT TO MAKE ON THIS IS IF WE DO NOT SELL ALL 400 TICKETS, WE CAN ADJUST OUR CATERING NUMBERS TO OFFSET THAT EXPENSE AS WELL. SO OUR FINAL SHARE THAT WE HAVE IS THE RATIONALE FOR THESE RECOMMENDATIONS AND CONSIDERATIONS THAT STAFF TOOK INTO ACCOUNT WHEN WE DEVELOPED THIS. AND FOR US, IT WAS IMPORTANT TO MAINTAIN THE IDENTITY OF WILDFLOWER AND THE EXPERIENCE OF WILDFLOWER. WE UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT AND BELOVED THE FESTIVAL IS, AND WE[02:10:01]
WANT IT TO MAINTAIN THAT. WE ALSO WANT IT TO CREATE SOME CONSISTENCY WITH THE OPERATIONAL HOURS FOR THE TWO DAYS FELT LIKE IT WAS IMPORTANT, AND IT CREATES A BETTER EXPERIENCE FOR OUR PATRONS. ADDITIONALLY, THE HOURS AND DAYS CORRESPOND WITH OUR ACTUAL TRACKING DATA FROM SCAN REPORTS AND FROM THE VARIOUS SURVEYS THAT WE CONDUCTED. THIS ADJUSTMENT STILL ALLOWS FLEXIBILITY OF MAINTAINING THE IMPORTANT COMPONENTS OF WILDFLOWER AND OUR SIGNATURE PROGRAMING. THOSE WOULD STAY INTACT, BUT IT CONTINUES TO SHOWCASE THE ICEMAN CENTER AS WELL AS IT ALLOWS FLEXIBILITY FOR US TO RIGHTSIZE THAT OUTDOOR STAGE. IF WE SEE A NEED FOR IT, WE HAVE THAT ABILITY. SO WE WE HAVE NOT RESTRICTED OURSELVES IN THE ABILITY TO GROW FURTHER. AND IT DOES ALLOW US TO MAINTAIN SUCCESSFUL ELEMENTS. AS I MENTIONED, THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE FEEL LIKE ARE DRIVING ATTENDANCE TO THE FESTIVAL AND RECEIVED POSITIVE FEEDBACK. AND WE WANT IT TO MAKE SURE THOSE WERE STILL INTACT AS WELL. BUT THIS ALSO SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCES OUR OPERATING EXPENSES, OUR STAFF HOURS, AND THE IMPACT THAT WE ARE HAVING ON THE PROPERTY PARTNERS AND THE BUSINESSES ON SITE. SO NEXT STEPS, NEXT STEPS FOR WILDFLOWER TO FINALIZE THE RECOMMENDATIONS TONIGHT. SO WE HAVE A DIRECTION TO MOVE FORWARD. AND THEN ONCE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE FINALIZED, OUR TEAM WILL START PLANNING FOR THE 2027 FESTIVAL YEAR. AND AS WE DO WITH EVERY EVENT, WE WILL CONTINUE TO REFINE AND IMPROVE, TO MAKE WILDFLOWER THE BEST THAT WE CAN. SO NOW I'M GOING TO OPEN IT UP TO YOUR FEEDBACK, COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE. THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE VIP TICKETS. I REALLY LIKE THAT RECOMMENDATION. THAT CHART TELLS A REALLY INTERESTING STORY THERE ABOUT THE STRATEGIC PARTNERS COMPONENT, FOR SURE. DO WE TYPICALLY SELL OUT OF THE VIP TICKETS THAT WE SO SO WE ABSOLUTELY DO. AND NORMALLY WE SELL OUT FAIRLY EARLY. IT'S NORMALLY IN MARCH OR BEGINNING OF APRIL THAT OUR TICKETS SELL OUT. SUNDAY IS THE ONE DAY THAT WE DO NOT SELL OUT OF. AND GENERALLY THE TICKETS THAT ARE SOLD ON SUNDAY ARE PART OF THE THREE DAY PACKAGE. SO THIS YEAR IT WAS 84 TICKETS ON SUNDAY FOR THE VIP. YEAH, I MEAN THAT'S INTERESTING. I ASSUME MAYBE YOU TRACK HOW HOW MUCH INTEREST YOU GET IN THE VIP TICKETS. AND THAT'S HOW YOU'VE REACHED THE 400 NUMBER. I MEAN, IF YOU THINK YOU CAN SELL THEM, I'D BE IN FAVOR OF ADJUSTING THOSE NUMBERS IN FAVOR OF SELLING THEM VERSUS, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE STRATEGIC PARTNERS HAVE YOU HAVE POINTED OUT, TAKE ADVANTAGE. AND SO I'D BE FINE LIMITING AND BEING VERY STRICT ABOUT THAT IF WE THINK WE CAN SELL THEM. SO THAT WOULD BE MY FEEDBACK ON THAT IS I LIKE THIS. AND IF YOU THINK YOU CAN SELL MORE, LET'S ADJUST THOSE CATEGORIES EVEN MORE. OKAY. AND I THINK I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR TRYING TO KEEP THE SPIRIT OF WILDFLOWER. I THINK THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU HAVE MADE. YOU KNOW, GIVEN THE SITUATION, ARE GOOD ONES, THE FACT THAT YOU'VE BEEN ABLE TO REDUCE THE BUDGET BY HALF, WELL, THE SUBSIDY BY HALF IS PRETTY INCREDIBLE. AND I THINK TELLS A REALLY COMPELLING STORY. AND THE BUDGET YEAR WE HAD LAST YEAR AND WHAT WE'RE LIKELY TO HAVE THIS YEAR. SO NOBODY WANTS TO MAKE THAT DECISION ABOUT A BELOVED FESTIVAL. BUT I THINK THAT THE SUGGESTIONS YOU HAVE MADE HAVE THE LEAST IMPACT ON THE SPIRIT OF THE FESTIVAL. AND SO I THANK YOU FOR FOR BEING VERY CAREFUL ABOUT WHAT YOU'VE RECOMMENDED HERE. AND I THINK IT MAKES SENSE. SADLY, MY FAVORITE ACT OF WILDFLOWER WAS ON THE PLAZA STAGE, SO I WORRY ABOUT THAT. BUT YOU KNOW, I KNOW YOU ALL WILL CALIBRATE THE ACTS TO, TO SORT OF THE NEW FOOTPRINT. SO REALLY THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO SAY IS THANK YOU. AND ON THE VIP PIECE, LET'S MAKE SURE THAT THAT WE'RE SELLING AS MANY OF THOSE AS WE CAN. AND, YOU KNOW, STRATEGIC PARTNERS CAN HAVE THEIR FEWER TICKETS. THAT'S FINE BY ME. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER. THANK YOU. MAYOR YVONNE, WILL YOU GO TO SLIDE 25? AND WHILE YOU GET THERE, I WILL DO EVERYTHING COUNCILWOMAN JUSTICE SAID. THANK YOU FOR CARRYING THIS, KEEPING THE SPIRIT OF WILDFLOWER AND TRYING TO HONOR THAT AND ITS HISTORY. AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK. THIS THIS PRESENTATION WAS EXTREMELY COMPREHENSIVE. SO THANK YOU TO YVONNE AND THE ENTIRE STAFF, BECAUSE I'M SURE IT WASN'T JUST YOU TWO. I'M SURE YOU ALL DID A LOT OF WORK, BUT ALSO YOU HAD HELP ALONG THE WAY. SO THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY WHO WAS INVOLVED WITH THAT. A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR CLARITY HERE, BECAUSE I WAS TRYING TO I KNOW IN YOUR PRESENTATION, I WAS TRYING TO FOLLOW ON, AND YOU MENTIONED THERE WAS ONE AREA WHERE THEY WERE ABLE TO KEEP ACCESS TO THEIR PRIVATE DRIVE. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE SPACE WHERE IT SAYS VOLUNTEER CHECK IN AND THAT GOES NORTH OF THERE? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO? YES, SIR. OKAY. SO I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER THAT BUILDING. THERE'S NO I GUESS THEY'LL THEY'LL HAVE ACCESS TO THAT BUILDING DURING THE. AND THAT KIND OF HELPS MY UNDERSTANDING IF I. I THINK THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT. THEY WERE ALSO STRUGGLING TO HAVE ACCESS TO THAT. IT WAS DIFFICULT ON THEM BECAUSE WE WOULD SHUT DOWN THEIR ACCESS WHILE WE PREPARED FOR THE FESTIVALS. CORRECT. WE DO SHUT DOWN THE ACCESS FOR PREPARATION OF THE FESTIVAL. WHAT WE HAVE[02:15:04]
ALSO NOTICED OVER THE YEARS, THAT AREA, THE FESTIVAL IS VERY LIGHTLY ATTENDED. SO ONE SIDE IS WHERE THE VIP ENTRANCE IS, THE OTHER SIDE WAS WHERE THE WILDFLOWER KIDS AREA HAD BEEN HELD, AND OUR VOLUNTEER CHECK IN IS IN THAT SPOT. WE FEEL LIKE BY MOVING IT IN, IT ALLOWS A LITTLE MORE ACCESS FOR A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME FOR THOSE BUSINESSES WHILE THEY'RE WORKING THROUGHOUT THE WEEK, WE WILL HAVE TO STILL SHUT IT DOWN FOR THE FESTIVAL, AND THERE WILL STILL BE A BUFFER FOR SAFETY MEASURES, BUT THAT AREA WILL DEFINITELY BE REDUCED. AND THEN WE'LL RELOCATE THE ACTIVITIES THAT WERE IN THAT SPACE. OKAY, SO I'M GOING TO CALL THIS THE CROSS HERE RIGHT AT THE BOTTOM OF THE CROSS THERE. THERE'S NO IF I'M READING THIS CORRECTLY, THERE'S NO EXIT THERE. THERE'S THE FENCED OFF AREA. IT'S A DEAD END. SO WE'RE PUTTING THE CHILDREN'S AREA UP AGAINST A DEAD END. CORRECT. LET ME SHOW YOU ON THIS SLIDE, IF YOU DON'T MIND. RIGHT THERE WHERE IT SAYS THE GROVE. THAT'S THE CHILDREN'S AREA. AND THERE'S A YELLOW LINE. THAT YELLOW LINE REPRESENTS A WALL. NO EXIT ENTRANCE. CORRECT. SO OUR ENTRYWAYS WOULD BE THE GATE BY THE ICEMAN CENTER. AND THEN ALSO WHAT WE HAD IS GATE D IN THE PAST. SO WE WOULD KEEP THOSE TWO AREAS AS PARTICIPANT ENTRIES. BUT THEN WE WOULD STILL HAVE THE VOLUNTEER CHECK IN AND THE VIP ENTRANCE CHECK IN WHERE THEY ARE LOCATED NOW JUST MOVED IN CLOSER. I DO WANT TO SAY KUDOS TO THE VENDOR CHANGE UP. I, I PERSONALLY ENJOYED IT AND I HEARD SEVERAL FEEDBACK THAT PEOPLE WERE EXCITED THAT WE HAD MORE OPTIONS IN THE FOOD WORLD THIS YEAR BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE WE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A HANDFUL OF VENDORS THAT WE USE AT ALL THE FESTIVALS. YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS KNOW WE'RE GOING TO GET CERTAIN THINGS BECAUSE IT'S THE SAME VENDOR. AND THIS YEAR THERE SEEMED TO BE MORE VARIETY. AND I FEEL THAT I'M SURE THAT DOESN'T JUST HAPPEN ORGANICALLY.SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. THE SINGER SONGWRITER STAGE, WHICH IS NORMALLY ON THAT BOTTOM SIDE OF THE CROSS ON THE RIGHT WHERE THE VENDORS. IS THAT ELIMINATED? THAT WOULD BE ELIMINATED FROM HERE. SO AGAIN, WE'D GO BACK TO THE FOUR STAGES, BUT THOSE PERFORMANCES COULD BE HELD ON THE OUTDOOR STAGE AS WELL AS INSIDE AT THE BANK OF AMERICA THEATER. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I'M JUST MAKING SURE I CROSSED OFF EVERYTHING. OKAY. WE TALKED ABOUT REVENUE. I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN JUSTICE ABOUT BALANCING AND DOING WHATEVER YOU NEED TO DO TO SELL MORE OF THOSE VIP TICKETS. GREAT JOB ON THAT. I LIKE THAT AS FAR AS THE LARGEST BLEED I KNOW, YOU MENTIONED, THERE WAS A REDUCTION IN OVERTIME IN 2026 IS THE LARGEST BLEED IN COST.
MAYBE BLEEDS NOT THE RIGHT WORD, BUT IS IT STILL THE COST OF THE ENTERTAINMENT ITSELF? IS THAT WHERE THERE'S SEVERAL AREAS THAT ARE LARGER? THIS BECAUSE THIS IS NOT OUR PROPERTY.
THERE'S A LOT OF LOGISTICS AND LEGWORK THAT HAS TO BE DONE TO SECURE THIS AREA. SO FENCING THE ENTIRE AREA, BRINGING OUT ELECTRICITY WITH THE GENERATORS, THE PRODUCTION SIDE, THE ENTERTAINMENT. I THINK OUR BIGGEST TWO EXPENSES IN DIANA CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, ARE THE ENTERTAINERS AS WELL AS THE STAGE AND PRODUCTION RENTALS. OKAY, MAYOR, I HAVE ONE MORE, BUT I'LL HOLD IT FOR NEXT TIME TO GIVE SOMEBODY ELSE A CHANCE. NO PROBLEM. WE WILL GO ON TO COUNCIL MEMBER DORIAN. THANK YOU. IVAN, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. I MEAN, I WILL TELL YOU, I CERTAINLY SUPPORT EVERYTHING THAT YOU ALL PUT TOGETHER. AND I KNOW IT TOOK A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT AND IT'S A HARD DECISION TO MAKE. SO I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU AND YOUR STAFF FOR, YOU KNOW, PUTTING THE HOURS IT TOOK IN TO PRESENT THIS. A COUPLE OF THINGS. I WANTED TO BRING ATTENTION TO. ONE, I, TOO, HEARD A LOT OF GREAT THINGS ABOUT RELOCATING THE FOOD COURT AND OPENING IT UP TO A VARIETY AND TO THE CENTER PART OF THE GALLATIN AREA. SO THAT WAS A THAT WAS A VERY GOOD MOVE. THE OTHER QUESTION IS, ON THE HOURS FOR FROM THREE, 3 TO 11. WHAT KIND OF CONSIDERATION WAS THERE TO MADE FOR HAVING LONGER HOURS ON SATURDAY AS OPPOSED TO HAVING EACH FRIDAY AND SATURDAY FROM 3 TO 11? DON'T WE GENERALLY OPEN EARLIER ON SATURDAY? WE GENERALLY DO. WE OPEN AT NOON AND THE CONSIDERATION BEHIND THAT WAS BASED ON THE TICKET ATTENDANCE SCAN REPORTS THAT WE HAVE EVERY YEAR FROM OUR OBSERVATION AND FROM THOSE TICKET REPORTS, YOU SEE A VERY SLOW TRICKLE OF PEOPLE THAT COME IN. THE BULK TIME THAT PEOPLE ARE COMING IN IS REALLY THAT 3 TO 5 TIME AND THEN 5 TO 7, AND AFTER SEVEN, YOU DON'T SEE ANY MORE PEOPLE COME IN. I BELIEVE WHEN I LOOKED AT THE REPORT, IT WAS 3% OF THE PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY CAME CAME AFTER SEVEN. SO THE BULK TIME WAS THAT WINDOW THAT I JUST SHARED WITH YOU. SO BASED ON THAT KNOWING IF WE OPEN AT THREE, IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE SLOW AT THREE, BUT THAT'S WHEN PEOPLE ARE GOING TO
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START COMING. IF YOU ARE OPEN LONGER IN THE DAY, YOU'RE STRETCHING THE DAY OUT FOR THE VENDORS AND YOU DON'T HAVE THAT COMPACT NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN THE FESTIVAL TO ACTUALLY CREATE THAT BENEFIT IN THE SALES AND ACTIVITIES THAT ARE GOING ON. SO WE FELT LIKE 3 TO 11 WAS A REALLY GOOD WINDOW OF TIME FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO SEE THE ENTIRE FESTIVAL, ENJOY ALL ASPECTS, AND ALLOW US TO STILL BRING BACK THOSE SIGNATURE PROGRAMS THAT WE WANTED TO. BUT WE ALSO FELT LIKE ON FRIDAY, IT'S SUCH A CONDENSED TIME THAT WE COULD SPREAD THAT OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE. WE HAVE HEARD FEEDBACK ABOUT THE HOURS ARE DIFFERENT ON ALL THREE DAYS, AND IT MAKES IT A LITTLE MORE CHALLENGING TO KEEP UP WITH. WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN TO WILDFLOWER FOR SO LONG THAT THEY KNOW BUT ARE NEWER CUSTOMERS. THAT'S A LITTLE CONFUSING. SO WE THOUGHT THIS WAS A GREAT WAY TO CREATE SOME CONSISTENCY. WE ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE WORLD HAS CHANGED AND PEOPLE ON FRIDAYS GENERALLY ARE GETTING OFF EARLIER. OR MAYBE FRIDAY ISN'T A DAY THAT THEY'RE WORKING OR IT'S A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBLE.AND SO WITH THAT, WE FELT LIKE WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY HERE TO ADJUST THOSE HOURS AND KIND OF RIGHT SIDE THEM. NO, THAT MAKES SENSE TOO. AND LUCKILY THE SCANNING, YOU KNOW, INPUT FEEDS INTO THAT. I ALSO TO THAT ELIMINATES THE VIP ON SATURDAY AS WELL. SO THAT HOPEFULLY WILL REDUCE SOME OF THE COST. CORRECT. BECAUSE THERE'LL BE NO FOOD VENDORS NOW ON, ON SATURDAY, AT LUNCH ON SATURDAY, WE'LL STILL HAVE SATURDAY DINNER. OKAY. AND WHAT ABOUT YOUR THE TEAR DOWN TIME? IS THAT JUST GOING TO BE AN ALL DAY SUNDAY EVENT? NOW GENERALLY WHAT WE WILL DO, OUR MARKETPLACE VENDORS ARE ALLOWED TO CLOSE DOWN AT 10 P.M. SO AN HOUR BEFORE THE FESTIVAL CLOSES. SO WE'LL HAVE THEM PACK UP EVERYTHING, AND THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET OUR FOOD VENDORS TO MOVE OUT AND THEN HAVE THE MARKETPLACE VENDORS AND SOME OF THE BIGGER FOOD VENDORS COME BACK SUNDAY MORNING. THIS PAST YEAR, I BELIEVE WE HAD EVERYTHING PULLED OUT. ALL OF OUR VENDORS AND OUR FOOD VENDORS OUT BY WITHIN LIKE A THREE HOUR WINDOW. SO THAT ALLOWS OUR TEAM TO START REALLY TEARING DOWN THAT SITE SUNDAY.
AND WE WILL PROBABLY NOT DO A FULL DAY ON SUNDAY, BUT GET ALL THE CRITICAL THINGS DONE SO WE CAN OPEN THE MAIN STREETS BACK UP AND THEN COME BACK ON MONDAY AND REALLY DO THE HARD WORK.
YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S GOOD. WELL, THIS BRINGS ME TO MY LAST QUESTION TOO, IS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY ONLY HAVE ONE RESTAURANT OWNER DOWN IN THE PLAZA. SO AND THEY DON'T GENERALLY HAVE A LOT OF BUSINESS ON A SUNDAY MORNING. SO BY THE TIME I GUESS THEY OPEN, WE'LL HAVE THAT WHOLE SECTION WILL BE PRETTY MUCH TORN DOWN AND OPEN BACK UP. SO IN THE EVENT THERE'S BUSINESS TO BE HAD, THEY'LL STILL BE ABLE TO, PEOPLE WILL STILL BE ABLE TO COME DOWN THERE PARKING, AND THERE WILL STILL BE ACCESS FOR HIS BUSINESS. CORRECT. OKAY, GOOD. NOW, THE WHOLE AREA MIGHT NOT BE TORN DOWN AT THAT POINT, BUT THERE'LL BE A SUFFICIENT AMOUNT FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS HIS RESTAURANT. OKAY, WONDERFUL. WELL, I SUPPORT WHAT YOU PRESENTED. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER CORCORAN. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. YEAH. THIS IS A COMPREHENSIVE SET OF CHANGES, AND IT'S TOUGH. I MEAN, IN A LOT OF WAYS, I WISH WE DIDN'T HAVE TO MAKE THEM. I THINK WE ALL DO. BUT IT'S IT'S ALSO UNDERSTANDABLE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S I JUST I GUESS I DO COMMEND YOU GUYS FOR COMING FORWARD WITH NOT JUST ONE SMALL TWEAK, BUT WITH A LOT OF CHANGES TO REALLY GIVE US, GIVE US THAT COMPREHENSIVE HIT UP FRONT. YOU KNOW, I, I DO, BY THE WAY, REALLY APPRECIATE THE FAST TURNAROUND ON THOSE BUDGET NUMBERS TOO. I MEAN, I KNOW THAT'S NOT EASY TO DO. SO THANK YOU FOR PULLING THAT TOGETHER FOR US. YOU KNOW, MY ONLY QUESTION, I GUESS, IS JUST WITH THE PERFORMANCES REALLY CONSOLIDATING SOME OF THE SIDE PERFORMANCES TO LIKE THE BANK OF AMERICA THEATER AND HILL HALL STAGE. I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE I ALREADY KNOW THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION I'M GOING TO ASK, BUT I FEEL COMPELLED TO ASK IT ANYWAY. I MEAN, WHAT ARE THE CHANCES OF SORT OF RENEGOTIATING OR RECONFIGURING THE OUTSIDE FOOD AND DRINK RULE AT THE ISEMAN CENTER? IS THAT A BIG 0% CHANCE OR WHAT DO Y'ALL WHAT DO Y'ALL THINK? ARE YOU REFERRING TO TAKING OUT LIKE LIQUOR INTO THE. WELL, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, YOU GET YOU GET A DRINK AT THE BEVERAGE LITTLE BEVERAGE STAND AND YOU SAY, OH, WELL, NOW MY PERFORMANCE IS IN THE BOA THEATER. I'M GOING TO TRY TO WALK IN THERE AND, YOU KNOW, NO, OUTSIDE THERE'S ALWAYS THAT, YOU KNOW, NO OUTSIDE FOOD OR THAT'S A, THAT'S A T ABC ISSUE. SO YEAH. SO ALCOHOL. RIGHT, RIGHT. YEAH.
SO YEAH. SO THAT'S A STATE, WE'RE FOLLOWING STATE REGULATIONS BY HAVING A T, A, B, C LICENSE THERE AND NOT ALLOWING OUTSIDE ALCOHOL TO BE BROUGHT IN. SO THERE'S NOT MUCH WIGGLE ROOM UNFORTUNATELY. YEAH. THAT MAKES SENSE. YEAH. YEAH. BUT WE'LL SEE. I'LL BE INTERESTED TO SEE HOW PEOPLE EXPAND AND USE THE SPACE AND THE ISEMAN CENTER AND MAYBE DIFFERENT WAYS NOW THAN THEY WOULD HAVE IN THE PAST TOO. SO WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS. MAYOR
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PRO TEM HUTCHENRIDER, GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION. BEING SOMEONE WHO'S ATTENDED FOR, GOSH, ALMOST PROBABLY 16 YEARS NOW, I THINK THE CHANGES THAT YOU'RE RECOMMENDING GOING TO THE FRIDAY, SATURDAY MAKE A LOT OF SENSE. I THINK SUNDAY HAS ALWAYS BEEN VERY, VERY LIGHT. I'M NOT SURE THAT THE, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE WORK AND ALL OF THE OVERTIME THAT WE'VE HAD ON SUNDAY HAS MADE A LOT OF SENSE FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.SO I FULLY SUPPORT WHAT YOU'VE PRESENTED TONIGHT AND APPRECIATE ALL OF THE GREAT WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WELL, THANK YOU, EVERYONE, FOR, YOU KNOW, BRINGING ALL THIS DATA AND BACKGROUND INFORMATION. IT MAKES SENSE. YOUR PRESENTATION BASED ON THE DATA. SO EVEN THOUGH I WISH YOU COULD, WE HAD UNLIMITED BUDGET, BUT UNDERSTANDING THE SITUATION. SO I WOULD SUPPORT THIS. YOUR RECOMMENDATION. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER BARRIOS. THANK YOU. MAYOR YVONNE, JUST A COUPLE COMMENTS AND KIND OF QUESTION. ONE, YOU IT DOES BRING VIP DOWN TO ONE MEAL ON SATURDAY. I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU CONTINUE. YOU CONSIDER KEEPING THAT AS THE TASTE OF RICHARDSON.
I THINK ANYTIME I ALWAYS HEAR SO MANY POSITIVE COMMENTS ABOUT THAT PIECE OF THAT, BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE GET TO TRY DIFFERENT FOODS FROM THROUGHOUT THE CITY, SO I WOULD HOPE THAT WOULD BE THE CASE THAT WE CONTINUE TO HAVE THAT. IF THAT WORKS OUT. I'M NOT SURE HOW YOU FIGURE THAT OUT FINANCIALLY, BUT I HOPE THAT WORKS OUT. THE. IT OBVIOUSLY HAS LESS WALKING AREA. IT MAKES SENSE TO ME WHY YOU'RE DOING IT. I THINK THERE'LL BE A LOT OF PEOPLE KIND OF SAD TO SEE THAT WE LOSE ACCESS TO THAT WATER FEATURE. I KNOW IN YEARS PAST WHEN THAT WAS WE WERE WAITING FOR A PARK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THERE WAS, I THINK, TWO YEARS WHERE WE DIDN'T HAVE THE WATER FEATURE. AND THAT WAS ALWAYS A SOMETHING I, I KNOW I'VE HEARD ABOUT MANY TIMES, SO I'M VERY, VERY SAD TO SEE THAT BE OUTSIDE OF THE FESTIVAL. IF THERE'S ANY WAY TO BRING THAT INTO IT. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MAKES SENSE BECAUSE WE'RE. THE FENCING IS.
BUT I AM SAD TO SEE THAT THE WATER FEATURE WILL NO LONGER BE PART OF THE FESTIVAL, BUT THERE IS A GATE THERE, SO I DON'T KNOW WITH THE OPTIONS THERE, MAYBE THE. WHEN WE LOOK. I SHARE COUNCILWOMAN JUSTICE'S COMMENT ABOUT. SOME OF MY FAVORITE ACTS ARE ON THE STAGE.
WE'RE LOSING. ALTHOUGH I'M TECHNICALLY ON ON THE SIDE OF THE AGE GROUP WHERE A LITTLE LESS ATTENDANCE ON THE OLDER SIDE, SHE FITS WITHIN THAT AGE GROUP, WHERE THE MORE THE BIGGER CROWDS ARE. BUT I THINK THAT THE LAST FEW YEARS FORGET THE NAME OF THE COUNTRY BAND. I WAS THERE THIS YEAR. THEY HAD A GREAT CROWD. I THINK LAST YEAR WAS WAS IT RANDY ROGERS? WAS THAT LAST YEAR? THAT WAS OKAY. SO THAT WAS A HUGE CROWD. I KNOW. I THINK IT WAS THE FIRST OR SECOND YEAR I WAS ON THE COUNCIL. THERE WAS A. LIKE A TEJANO TYPE BAND SINGING IN SPANISH. AND ONE OF THE, WHAT I WOULD CALL THE NORTHERN PART OF THE CROSS. AND IT BUSTED OUT INTO A STREET DANCE. AND IT WAS A HUGE CROWD, SUPER BUSY. SO I THINK SOME OF THE THINGS I'VE SEEN IS SOME OF THOSE BIG CROWDS HAPPENING WITH SOME OF THOSE INTERESTING, I GUESS, PERFORMANCES. SO I'D LIKE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, ONE, HOW WE CONTINUE TO GROW THAT WHEN WE SEE THOSE KINDS OF THINGS HAPPEN, I THINK THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITIES THERE FOR DIFFERENT TYPE OF MUSIC, WHETHER IT BE COUNTRY, WHETHER IT BE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE TEJANO TYPE OR SPANISH TYPE STUFF, THE LITTLE WE'VE SEEN OF IT, IT SELLS OUT. I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK AT THE STUFF IN THE ICEMAN, THOSE ARE THE SHOWS THAT SELL OUT OR IN THAT HISPANIC DEMOGRAPHIC. AND THERE'S A LOT OF INTEREST IN THAT. SO I WOULD HOPE THAT AS WE LOOK AT HOW WE PROCEED AND HOW, HEY, ARE WE GOING TO CONTINUE TO CHANGE THAT, WE TAKE THOSE KINDS OF THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHENRIDER. I JUST SEE YOUR HAND. I FORGOT TO I FORGOT TO LOWER MY HAND. I APOLOGIZE. I, I HAVE NO MORE QUESTIONS, NO PROBLEM. SO GREAT PRESENTATION AND AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR REALLY GIVING US LIKE A CREDIBLE OPTION TO BE ABLE TO KEEP THIS GOING. YOU KNOW, WE'VE SEEN NEIGHBORS OF OURS MAKE SOME REALLY DRAMATIC
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ADJUSTMENTS. AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU ALMOST HURT FOR THEM BECAUSE, BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A SUCH A BIG DEAL FOR THESE CITIES TO LOSE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES TO SHOWCASE THEMSELVES. SO THANK YOU FOR, FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD. I'VE GOT A FEW COMMENTS AND A FEW QUESTIONS. THE FIRST COMMENT, AND IT'S, I DON'T MEAN THIS NEGATIVELY, BUT JUST SOMETHING TO KIND OF KEEP IN MIND IS ESPECIALLY AS IT RELATED TO LIKE THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'RE GETTING FROM PEOPLE THAT ATTEND OUR FESTIVAL ABOUT WHAT MUSIC THEY LIKE. MY SUGGESTION MIGHT BE THAT THEY'RE COMING TO THE FESTIVAL BECAUSE THEY LIKE THE MUSIC THAT'S HAPPENING AT THE FESTIVAL, AND SO THEREFORE, THEY MIGHT LEAN TOWARDS THE MUSIC THAT WE OFFER AT THE FESTIVAL, WHICH OFTENTIMES IS, LET'S SAY, ROCK. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT'S NOT A GOOD DATA POINT. YOU DO WANT TO LEAN IN ON THE REASONS WHY PEOPLE COME. SO IT'S GOOD TO GET, BUT I ALSO JUST WANT TO KIND OF KEEP THAT IN MIND. I ALSO LOVE THE BENCHMARKING THAT YOU DID WITH THE OTHER FESTIVALS AND KIND OF LOOKING AT THAT. I THINK THAT'S REALLY COOL. I'VE OFTEN WONDERED ABOUT THE PRODUCER LED FESTIVALS AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, AND PERHAPS GIVEN A LONGER TIMELINE, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU GUYS START WORKING ON THE NEXT WILDFLOWER AS SOON AS YOU'RE DONE WITH THIS PARTICULAR MEETING. SO IF YOU HADN'T ALREADY STARTED. AND SO I THINK THAT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAYBE EVEN LOOK AT A LITTLE BIT DEEPER AT SOME OF THOSE KINDS OF RELATIONSHIPS. AND THAT CAN BE IN SOME, YOU KNOW, MAYBE TWO YEARS OUT. I'M CURIOUS, AND YOU MAY NOT KNOW IT OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD, BUT ON A COTTONWOOD WEEKEND, DO WE HAVE A ROUGH IDEA OF WHAT OUR ATTENDANCE IS? DIANA DOES? I WOULD NOT GET IT CORRECT.OKAY. YES, MAYOR. THANK YOU. WE ON AVERAGE SEE ABOUT 3000 PEOPLE OVER THE COURSE OF TWO DAYS. THAT COTTONWOOD PARK THREE ZERO THOUSAND. 30,000. YES, SIR. NOW, I DO WANT TO POINT OUT WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO TRACK THAT BECAUSE IT'S NOT A TICKETED EVENT. SO THAT IS BASED ON FEEDBACK THAT WE GET FROM THE VARIOUS VENDORS. THERE WAS ONE YEAR THAT WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE SOME PINPOINTED DATA COLLECTED FROM A CONSULTANT THAT DID SHARE AND KIND OF RECONFIRM SOME OF THOSE NUMBERS FOR US. AWESOME. I NOT FOR THIS NEXT YEAR, PERHAPS FOR AN OUTGOING YEAR. I WONDER WHAT WE CAN LEARN FROM THAT. THAT'S A SATURDAY SUNDAY EVENT, RIGHT? SUNDAY WHERE WE'RE HAVING SUCH A HARD TIME FILLING. AND THE NUMBERS AT THAT FESTIVAL ARE, YOU KNOW, QUITE A BIT GREATER THAN THE ATTENDANCE AT THIS FESTIVAL. AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE ELEMENT OF THE ARTS ITSELF. AND, AND THAT'S WHY I ALMOST WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO GET SOME SORT OF SURVEY OF THE 30,000 THAT ARE GOING TO THE COTTONWOOD FESTIVAL TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, DO THEY GO TO THE WILDFLOWER FESTIVAL? AND IF NOT, WHY? THAT MAY NOT BE THE QUESTION, BUT YOU GET THE POINT. SO I, I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN LEARN BECAUSE THOSE ARE JUST WILDLY SUCCESSFUL. AND THE NUMBERS ECLIPSE WHAT WE'RE DOING AT WILDFLOWER NOW. I RECOGNIZE TOTALLY DIFFERENT LAYOUT, TOTALLY DIFFERENT PURPOSE. BUT MAYBE THERE'S SOME THINGS WE CAN BORROW OR LEARN FROM THAT. AND AGAIN, MAYBE ON A TWO YEAR HORIZON, NOT NECESSARILY FOR NEXT YEAR, I THINK FOR NEXT YEAR. WHAT YOU'VE PROPOSED IS PERFECT AND FINE, AND I'M VERY HAPPY TO KIND OF MOVE FORWARD WITH WHAT YOU'VE GOT THERE. I AM LASTLY, WELL, TWO OTHER QUESTIONS. ONE IS ON THE VIP TICKETS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IN THAT IN THAT SLIDE, IS THAT WHAT'S BEEN HANDED OUT OR IS THAT WHAT WE SAW ACTUALLY CHECK IN THROUGH OUR FRONT? THAT IS WHAT WAS HANDED OUT. SO WHEN PEOPLE RESERVE THOSE TICKETS, THEY DO IT THROUGH ONE OF OUR STAFF AND SHE TRACKS ALL OF THOSE. SO THOSE WERE ACTUAL NUMBERS. OKAY.
AS PARTLY CURIOUS ABOUT SIMILAR TO THE FREE TICKETS THAT ON SUNDAY WHERE WE HAD A BUNCH TICKET, BUT NOT VERY MANY OF THEM DID NOT SHOW UP. I JUST WONDER WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S A SIMILAR SITUATION THERE AND WHETHER OR NOT WE ACTUALLY HAVE 880 THAT SHOW UP ON THE STRATEGIC PARTNER SIDE VERSUS PERHAPS EVEN CLOSER TO 600. AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT DOES ANYTHING TO ANY OF THIS MATH, BUT IT'S JUST ANOTHER DATA POINT THAT I'M A LITTLE BIT CURIOUS ABOUT. WHAT MAKES THIS A LITTLE MORE CHALLENGING IS WITH OUR DIANA'S GOT GREAT REPORTS THAT CAN SHOW YOU HOW MANY OF THE VIP TICKETS WERE REDEEMED OR SCANNED. WHAT WE DON'T KNOW IS HOW MANY OF THOSE WERE STRATEGIC PARTNERS OR SPONSORS VERSUS PAID, BECAUSE IT'S ALL RELATIVELY THE SAME ON HOW WE PROCESS THOSE. FAIR ENOUGH. THE LAST CONCERN AND QUESTION THAT I WOULD KIND OF PUT OUT THERE, AND WE WON'T KNOW UNTIL WE DO IT. SO WE'RE GOING TO DO IT. AND I THINK IT'S A PART OF TESTING OUT A FEW ADJUSTMENTS. AND THERE'S NOTHING TO SAY THAT WE WOULDN'T ADJUST BACK FROM ONE THING TO ANOTHER IF WE FOUND SOMETHING TO BE MORE HURTFUL THAN WE EXPECTED. BUT I DO WONDER WHEN YOUR FAVORITE ACT IS ON THE
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OTHER STAGE AND THAT OTHER STAGE DOESN'T EXIST ANYMORE, AND SO THEREFORE THAT OTHER ACT NEVER SHOWS UP. DO YOU EVEN BUY THE TICKET AT ALL? AND SO DO WE END UP WITH HALF OF THE BUYERS OF TICKETS BECAUSE THEIR FAVORITE ACT FOR THOSE HALF NEVER SHOWED UP? OR IS IT NOT AS FICKLE AS IT RELATES TO WHO THOSE ACTS ARE, AND THEY'RE JUST SHOWING UP FOR THE FESTIVAL, AND THEN THEY'LL KIND OF FIGURE OUT THE ACTS WHEN THEY GET THERE VERSUS SHOWING UP FOR THE ACT. SO I THINK WE'LL LEARN A LOT FROM THAT AS WE AS WE DO WHAT WE DO. BUT I THINK THIS IS A NECESSARY STEP, AND I'M SUPER THANKFUL THAT YOU GUYS CAME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT ALLOWS US TO PRESERVE THIS AND MOVE IT FORWARD. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT. I DON'T SEE[8. REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE FY 2026-2027 PARKS MAINTENANCE STRATEGIES ]
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, WHICH IS TO REVIEW AND DISCUSS FISCAL YEAR 2627 PARKS MAINTENANCE STRATEGIES. MR. MAC. THANK YOU, MAYOR, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. SEAN ROGERS IS GOING TO LEAD THIS BRIEFING FOR US. THIS IS A TOPIC THAT WE INCLUDE EACH YEAR FOR OUR BUDGET DEVELOPMENT. AND SO SEAN'S GOING TO RUN THROUGH SOME UPDATES ON CURRENT PARKS MAINTENANCE PROJECTS FROM THE THE TRANSFER OUT DOLLARS AND THEN PUT TOGETHER A WORK PLAN FOR YOUR FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION FOR NEXT YEAR AS WELL. THANKS.THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. COUNCIL, APPRECIATE THE TIME HERE WITH YOU THIS EVENING. TALK ABOUT OUR FISCAL YEAR 27 PARKS MAINTENANCE STRATEGIES. SO JUST FOR A BRIEF OVERVIEW, I'LL GIVE YOU A VERY QUICK SNAPSHOT OF THE PARKS MAINTENANCE DIVISION. WE'LL TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT THE ITEMS THAT WERE SUBMITTED BY THE PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION AND THEIR ANNUAL BUDGET SUPPORT LETTER. GIVE A BRIEF RUNDOWN OF OUR CAPITAL ASSESSMENT PROGRAM. TALK ABOUT THE PROJECTS WE'RE DOING THIS YEAR IN THE PARKS MAINTENANCE FUND. LOOK AHEAD TO NEXT YEAR'S PRELIMINARY PROJECTS FOR THE PARKS MAINTENANCE FUND, AND THEN A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE MATCHING FUND BEAUTIFICATION PROGRAM. SO JUST SOME QUICK NUMBERS FOR THE PARKS MAINTENANCE DIVISION. WE HAVE 49 EMPLOYEES WHO MAINTAIN 42 PARKS. IT'S ABOUT 510 ACRES OF MEDIAN AND RIGHT OF WAY, 93 MILES OF TRAIL. IN RICHARDSON, WE MAINTAIN 31 PLAYGROUNDS, 27 BRIDGES, 230 PLUS ACRES OF SPORTS FIELDS, 28 RESTROOM BUILDINGS, 36 PAVILIONS AND 13 PONDS AND WATER FEATURES. SOME OTHER THINGS WE DO IN PARKS MAINTENANCE. OF COURSE, THE WILDFLOWER PLANTING PROGRAM. WE MAINTAIN THE STREET BANNER CHANGE OUT CONTRACT. WE MANAGE STREET SWEEPING FOR THE CITY. WE DO THE MATCHING FUND BEAUTIFICATION PROGRAM THAT I MENTIONED BEFORE, A LOT OF NATURAL AREA STEWARDSHIP, NOTABLY AT SPRING CREEK NATURE AREA AND BRECKENRIDGE PARK, PROVIDE TONS OF SUPPORT FOR EVENTS LIKE WILDFLOWER. BUT COTTONWOOD HUFFINES HARVEST FEST, SANTA'S VILLAGE FAMILY, FOURTH, OTHER STUFF. THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, WE HAVE A DEDICATION BENCH PROGRAM WHERE CITIZENS CAN DONATE BENCHES OR TREES TO THE CITY. WE PUT UP HOLIDAY DECORATIONS AT REC CENTERS AND ALL OVER THE PLACE, AND ALSO MAINTAIN THE LANDSCAPE ON THE CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY CORRIDOR, WHICH OF COURSE IS BETTER THAN ANYBODY ON EITHER SIDE OF US. AND THEN JUST TO BRIEFLY TALK ABOUT THE ITEMS THAT THE PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION SUBMITTED IN THEIR ANNUAL BUDGET LETTER, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE CHARGED TO DO EVERY YEAR TO PROVIDE SOME ADVICE ON BUDGET PRIORITIES. AND THIS IS THE LIST IN ORDER FROM MOST EXPENSIVE TO LEAST. BUT THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS WERE NEW FENCING FOR THE TENNIS CENTER, A NEW CAMERA SYSTEM, OR A CAMERA SYSTEM, REPLACEMENT FOR RECREATION CENTER. TENNIS COURT RESURFACING AT FIVE COURTS THROUGHOUT TOWN. THAT'S KIND OF A ROTATING PROJECT WE LIKE TO DO EVERY YEAR. SOME ARC TRAINERS FOR RECREATION CENTER, REPLACEMENT OF THE PARTITION PANEL AT RECREATION CENTER THAT DIVIDES THE BIG ROOM INTO TWO SMALLER ROOMS, MORE ADA CHAIR LIFTS FOR NEIGHBORHOOD POOLS, WHICH IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO HAVE TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE A LITTLE INCREASE IN BUDGET FOR FERTILIZATION AND CHEMICALS FOR TURF CARE THAT'S IN GENERAL PARK TURF, AS WELL AS ATHLETIC FIELDS, ONGOING MAINTENANCE OF TRAIL STRIPING, ESPECIALLY IN SOME OF OUR LARGER TRAILS LIKE OWENS TRAIL, CENTRAL TRAIL, GLENVILLE TRAIL AND THE TRAIL THROUGH SPRING CREEK NATURE AREA. RECUMBENT BIKE REPLACEMENT HUFFINES RECREATION CENTER AND REPLACEMENT OF THE LAP LANE MARKERS AT COTTONWOOD AND HEIGHTS FAMILY AQUATIC CENTER. AND INSTEAD OF RANKING THESE ITEMS THIS YEAR, THE COMMISSION JUST TOOK AN APPROACH OF. THIS IS KIND OF A CHUNK OF STUFF THAT IS SAFETY RELATED, AND THIS IS KIND OF A CHUNK OF STUFF THAT IS OPERATIONS RELATED BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE COMMISSION AND STAFF AGREE. THESE ARE ALL IMPORTANT THINGS THAT WE WANTED TO PUT A LITTLE BIT OF ATTENTION TO AS WE GO THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS THIS YEAR. AND THEN JUST BRIEFLY, JUST TO REMIND YOU ABOUT OUR PARKS ANNUAL CAPITAL CAPITAL ASSET ASSESSMENT, WE STARTED THIS IN 2018 AS A WAY TO KIND OF GAUGE THE STATUS OF SOME OF THE BIGGER VALUE THINGS IN OUR PARKS. WE GO OUT TO ALL 42 OF OUR PARKS, AND THIS ASSESSMENT IS DONE BY PARKS CREW STAFF MEMBERS, BECAUSE THEY'RE THE GUYS WHO MAINTAIN THESE ASSETS DAY TO DAY, YEAR OVER YEAR. THEY KNOW THEM THE BEST OUT OF ANYBODY. AND WE KIND OF THINK OF IT IN TERMS OF THESE ARE ASSETS THAT ARE VALUED AT $10,000 OR MORE OUT IN OUR PARKS, PLAYGROUNDS, PAVILIONS, THINGS LIKE THAT. THEY'RE SCORED IN FIVE AREAS SAFETY, AGE, STRUCTURAL SOUNDNESS, UTILITY, AND APPEARANCE. YOU
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CAN SEE THE WEIGHTS THERE THAT THOSE SCORES ARE GIVEN. AND THEN WE DISTILL ALL THAT DOWN TO A FIVE POINT SCALE FOR EACH OF THOSE CATEGORIES. AND THEN A OVERALL SCORE FOR EACH ASSET FIVE BEING EXCELLENT, ONE BEING POOR. AND THESE ARE THE CLASSES THAT THAT WE, WE EVALUATE EVERY YEAR. IT'S CHANGED A LITTLE BIT OVER THE YEARS. THIS HAS BEEN PRETTY STABLE FOR THE LAST 5 OR 6 YEARS, THOUGH. EVERYTHING FROM IRRIGATION SYSTEMS DOWN TO WATER FEATURES, MEDIAN LANDSCAPING, NOTABLY, IS ONE THAT WE ADDED A COUPLE THREE YEARS IN JUST BECAUSE THAT WAS SOMETHING WE REALIZED WE NEEDED TO GET ONTO A ROUTINE AND HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE DATA ON HOW WE WERE ADDRESSING THE LANDSCAPING ON MEDIANS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF ONE OF THE INSPECTION FORMS THAT OUR STAFF USES. THIS WAS THE THE SOFTBALL FIELD AT BERKELEY PARK GOT PRETTY GOOD SCORES. YOU SEE SOME NOTES THAT WERE WERE MADE THERE. THAT'S ONE THING WE LIKE TO ASK OUR STAFF TO DO. WHEN YOU DO THESE ASSESSMENTS, COME UP WITH THESE SCORES, BUT WRITE NOTES ON WHAT YOU SEE BECAUSE KYLE AND I WILL GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT AS WE'RE DEVELOPING A PROJECT LIST FOR THE PARKS MAINTENANCE FUND FOR THE NEXT YEAR, WE LOOK AND SEE WHAT WHAT ASSETS ARE SCORED LOWER AND THEN WHAT THE ISSUES ARE, AND DEVELOP A PLAN FOR A PROJECT THAT WILL FIX THOSE ISSUES. AND THIS IS THE WAY WE'D LIKE TO PRESENT SOME OF THE RESULTS OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. SO THESE STACKED BARS ARE ASSETS, THE NUMBER OF ASSETS RATED AS EXCELLENT OR GOOD FOR EACH OF THE CLASSES THAT ARE THERE ACROSS THE BOTTOM. SO BLUE IS EXCELLENT. ORANGE IS GOOD. SO THAT'S A FIVE OR A FOUR ON A FIVE POINT SCALE FOR BRIDGES, IRRIGATION SYSTEM, LIGHTING, MEDIUM LANDSCAPE, PAVILIONS AND PLAYGROUNDS, WHICH I THINK TELLS A PRETTY GOOD STORY. AND THEN HERE ARE THE REST OF THE CLASSES. AND THEN SINCE WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS SINCE SINCE 2018, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A PRETTY GOOD STORE OF DATA NOW. SO WE CAN LOOK BACK AND LOOK FOR TRENDS AND LOOK FOR CHANGES. AND SO THIS IS KIND OF A LOT ON A A SOMEWHAT NARROW SLIDE, BUT THIS SHOWS THE CHANGE OVER TIME. SO THE BLUE BARS ARE THE NUMBER OF ASSETS RATED AS EXCELLENT OR GOOD IN 2018 I SHOULD SAY EXCELLENT AND GOOD IN 2018. AND THE ORANGE BAR IS ASSETS RATED EXCELLENT AND GOOD IN 2016. WHICH WHICH WHICH IS INTERESTING AND WAS A REALLY GOOD WAY FOR ME TO LOOK AT THIS AND SEE A WHERE WE'VE DONE REALLY WELL. I WOULD MENTION RESTROOMS, SPORTS FIELDS, PAVILIONS, TRAILS. WE'VE MADE SOME DEFINITE IMPROVEMENTS THERE, BUT ALSO WHERE WE NEED TO FOCUS A LITTLE BIT MORE ATTENTION IN YEARS TO COME.SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE SLIPPED A LITTLE BIT BRIDGES, I'M INTERESTED TO KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE. YOU KNOW, LIGHTING IS ABOUT THE SAME, BUT IT SHOWS WE DEFINITELY HAVE MADE SOME PROGRESS AS A RESULT OF A DOING THE CAPITAL ASSET ASSESSMENT, AND B, HAVING THAT TRANSFER OUT INTO THE PARKS MAINTENANCE FUND TO DO SOME OF THESE PROJECTS THAT ARE NOT QUITE BOND LEVEL, BUT A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN MAYBE OPERATIONS BUDGET. AND SO JUST TO UPDATE YOU ON SOME OF THE PROJECTS WE'RE DOING IN THE PARKS MAINTENANCE FUND THIS YEAR, FIRST AND FOREMOST, WE'RE REPLACING THE ARE REDOING THE SAFETY SURFACE ROLE COAT OR TOP LAYER AT THE PLAYGROUND AT COTTONWOOD PARK. THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN DOING REGULARLY SINCE WE BUILT THAT PLAYGROUND BACK IN 2018. THAT'S OUR FIRST PORT IN PLACE, SAFETY SERVICING IN RICHARDSON, AND THE MANUFACTURER RECOMMENDS EVERY TWO YEARS OR SO, REPLACE THE BINDER THAT'S ROLLED ONTO THE TOP OF THAT. THAT'S BASICALLY THE GLUE THAT HOLDS THAT RUBBER TOGETHER, BUT WE REFRESH THAT EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS AND THAT ACTS AS A WEAR COAT. SO THAT GETS WORN DOWN INSTEAD OF THE ACTUAL RUBBER THAT PROVIDES THE FALL ATTENUATION. THAT WAS COMPLETED IN LATE MARCH OF THIS YEAR. WE ALSO REPLACED THE CONCRETE SLAB UNDER THE PAVILION AT HUFFINES PARK, WHICH IS SOMETHING OUR STAFF NOTICED THROUGH THE ASSET ASSESSMENT NEEDED TO BE DONE BECAUSE IT WAS CRUMBLING, CRACKED, FADING DIDN'T LOOK THAT GOOD. SO WE WERE ABLE TO USE THE PARK MAINTENANCE FUND TO TO REPLACE THAT, WHICH IS GOING TO BE GREAT FOR, YOU KNOW, SANTA'S VILLAGE THERE THIS YEAR. HUFFINES HARVEST FEST, CORPORATE CHALLENGE, OPENING CEREMONIES. AND THAT'S A PAVILION THAT GETS A LOT OF USE BY THE PUBLIC AS WELL. SO THAT'S A, THAT'S A NICE REFRESHED AMENITY FOR THEM. WE FINISHED THAT IN, IN FEBRUARY. ALSO, WE'RE ABLE TO RESTRICT THE PARKING LOT AT HEIGHTS PARK BETWEEN THE REC CENTER AND HEIGHTS FAMILY AQUATIC CENTER, KIND OF IN TANDEM WITH THE HEIGHTS FAMILY AQUATIC CENTER REFRESH PROJECT. IT WAS A GOOD TIME TO REDO FIRE LANES, ADA PARKING SPOTS, AND MIGHT AS WELL GET THE THE ENTIRE PARKING LOT DONE. THAT WASN'T SOMETHING THAT WAS BUDGETED INTO THE REFRESH PROJECT. FORTUNATELY, WE HAD THE FUNDS IN THE PARKS MAINTENANCE FUND TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT, WHICH IS BENEFICIAL TO EVERYBODY. GOT THAT DONE IN THE MIDDLE OF MAY, ABOUT THE TIME THE THE AQUATIC CENTER REFRESH WAS FINISHED, AND THESE NEXT TWO ARE STILL UNDER CONSTRUCTION, BUT THESE ARE MEDIAN LANDSCAPE PROJECTS. THE FIRST ONE IS ON WATER VIEW, AND THAT'S KIND OF DOING THAT SAME LANDSCAPE DESIGN SCHEME THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING ALL OVER TOWN. YOU SEE THE RIVER ROCK THERE. THIS IS KIND OF A IN PROGRESS PICTURE OF THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE ON WATER VIEW BETWEEN SPRING VALLEY AND BELTLINE. WE EXPECT THAT TO BE DONE BY THE END OF THIS MONTH OR EARLY JULY. AND LIKEWISE ON
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YALE BETWEEN BELTLINE AND SPRING VALLEY. WE'RE DOING SIMILAR TYPE OF WORK AND EXPECT THAT TO BE DONE AT ABOUT THE SAME TIME. THE SAME CONTRACTORS WORKING ON BOTH OF THOSE IN TANDEM. SO AS THEY GET THROUGH THAT AND BE ABLE TO DO THINGS IN DIFFERENT PLACES, THEY SHOULD BE WRAPPING THAT UP PRETTY SOON. WE ALSO WERE ABLE TO USE SOME SAVINGS FROM PREVIOUS PROJECTS IN THE PARKS MAINTENANCE FUND TO DO SOME PAVING REPAIRS AT GALLATIN PLAZA. YOU SEE THAT DRAIN THERE? THAT'S RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE EISMANN CENTER. IT WAS FAILING.THE CONCRETE AROUND IT WAS CRACKED FROM FROM TRAFFIC OR OVERUSE. WE WERE ABLE TO GET A CONTRACTOR TO COME IN, REPLACE THE DRAIN, REDO THE PAVING, AND THEY ALSO REDID A BUNCH OF THOSE BIG 12 BY 12 GRANITE PAVERS ON THAT BLACK WALKWAY THAT GOES FROM THE DART STATION ALL THE WAY TO THE FRONT DOOR OF THE EISMANN CENTER. AND THAT DEFINITELY WAS A RESULT OF TRAFFIC IN THE AREA GOING ACROSS THAT CROSSWALK HAD CRACKED SOME OF THOSE. THAT WAS VERY THANKFULLY DONE WELL BEFORE WILDFLOWER, SO WE HAD A CLEAN LOOK FOR THE FESTIVAL, WHICH WE WERE VERY GLAD OF. AND THEN ALSO IN THAT AREA, ABLE TO RECOMMISSION THE FOUNTAIN AT GALLATIN PLAZA. AS YOU KNOW, THAT FOUNTAIN WAS SHUT DOWN FOR ABOUT TWO YEARS WHILE THE GALLATIN PARK APARTMENTS WERE BEING BUILT. AND UNFORTUNATELY, WITH THE SYSTEM THAT MECHANICALLY COMPLEX HAVE JUST BEEN MOTHBALLED, BASICALLY FOR TWO YEARS, WE WENT TO TO SPIN IT UP AND WOULD GET IT RUNNING. IT WOULD WORK FINE FOR A LITTLE BIT, AND THEN THE NEXT PROBLEM WOULD MANIFEST, AND THEN THE NEXT PROBLEM WOULD MANIFEST. SO WE WE RESEARCHED A LOT OF OPTIONS FOR THAT. THE BEST, THE BEST CHOICE WAS TO HAVE THE MANUFACTURER COME BACK IN AND BASICALLY GO THROUGH IT PIECE BY PIECE, ALMOST TEAR IT DOWN AND REBUILD IT. AND THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ACTUALLY USE THE TERM RECOMMISSIONING, WHICH IS SOMETHING THEY DO. BUT THEY WERE HERE FOR ABOUT TWO WEEKS IN MARCH AND GOT EVERYTHING BACK UP AND RUNNING. AND IT'S BEEN A DREAM EVER SINCE. WE'RE REALLY HAPPY TO HAVE THAT UP FOR WILDFLOWER AGAIN THIS YEAR.
THE NEW BUILDING FOR YALE PARK RESTROOM IS BEING CONSTRUCTED IN LAS VEGAS RIGHT NOW. WE'VE BEEN USING A PREFAB MODEL FOR RESTROOM REPLACEMENTS THROUGHOUT THE PARK OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. I HAVE ONE AT THE DOG PARK, ONE AT COTTONWOOD, ONE AT HUFFINES, ONE AT CREEK HOLLOW PARK. THOSE HAVE BEEN REALLY, REALLY GREAT. SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A PROCESS TO GET ALL THE CONTRACTS LINED OUT, BUT THEY EXPECT TO HAVE THAT READY FOR DELIVERY AT THE END OF THE SUMMER, AND THEN THEY LITERALLY WILL COME OUT, BRING A CRANE, DROP IT IN PLACE, HOOK UP THE PLUMBING AND POWER, AND IT'LL BE READY TO GO. AND THEN AS A RESULT OF GOING THROUGH THE ASSET ASSESSMENT THIS YEAR, LOOKING AT HOW THOSE ASSETS WERE RATED, WERE ABLE TO DEVELOP THIS PRELIMINARY WORK PLAN FOR PROJECTS FOR FISCAL YEAR 27. SO ONE THING WE NEED TO REVISIT IS DOING SOME WORK ON THE TRAIL AT BRECKENRIDGE PARK. AND THIS IS DOWN IN THE THE LOW AREA BY THE SEA ENTRANCE WHERE THE TWO BIG PAVILIONS ARE. THAT IS UNFORTUNATELY ALL FLOODPLAIN. THAT FLOODS REGULARLY WHEN WE HAVE A BIG RAIN EVENT, AND ROWLETT CREEK IS A LITTLE BIT TOO UNRULY FOR ITS BANKS. WE SEE THAT TRAIL GET SILTED IN A LOT. THERE'S A LOT OF GRADING WE NEED TO DO, BUT ALSO BECAUSE OF THE INUNDATION. SOMETIMES THAT CONCRETE IS IS IN A LITTLE BIT ROUGH SHAPE HERE AND THERE. SO WE WANT TO DO SOME CONCRETE PANEL REPLACEMENTS, ADDRESS CRACKS, TRIP HAZARDS, AND THEN WORK ON THE GRADING TO KEEP THE WATER FLOWING OUT OF THAT AREA AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. AFTER WE HAVE A RAIN EVENT SO THAT IT'S READY FOR USE AND NOT SITTING UNDERWATER FOR QUITE SO LONG. ALSO, WANT TO DO SOME WORK TO THE RESTROOM AT THE B COMPLEX AT BRECKENRIDGE PARK. THAT'S IN THE AREA WHERE WE HAVE THE FAMILY FOURTH CELEBRATION EVERY YEAR. THAT RESTROOM IS ACTUALLY MOSTLY SITTING ON OLD CAPPED LANDFILL, SO IT DOES NOT ACTUALLY HAVE PLUMBING OR POWER. IT IS A A VERY, VERY NICE PORTABLE TOILET BASICALLY, BUT STILL HAS A LITTLE BIT NICER APPEARANCE, YOU KNOW, ROCK WALLS. BUT WE NEED TO DO SOME WORK ON THE DOORS AND HARDWARE, FRESH COAT OF PAINT, KIND OF SPRUCE THAT UP SOME AND THEN DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE FOUNDATION THERE BECAUSE IT'S GETTING A LITTLE BIT DICEY, BUT WE THINK WE CAN MUDJACKING THAT OR SOMETHING TO GET IT BACK ON A FIRM, FIRM FOOTING. MEDIAN LANDSCAPING, AGAIN, IS SOMETHING WE LIKE TO DO EVERY YEAR IN THE PARKS MAINTENANCE FUND TO START SPRUCING UP SOME OF THESE OLDER LANDSCAPE NODES THROUGHOUT THE CITY. THIS YEAR, THE AREAS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED WERE PLANO ROAD BETWEEN ABOUT BUCKINGHAM AND COLLINS. YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THAT OLDER IMPRINTED CONCRETE BRICK STARTING TO HEAVE A LITTLE BIT. IT LOOKS A LITTLE FADED, LOOKS A LITTLE DATED. SO WE'D LIKE TO TO SPRUCE THAT SOME UP. AND THEN ALSO JUPITER ROAD BETWEEN. I DIDN'T PUT THAT ON THERE, BUT THAT'S A KIND OF BETWEEN ARAPAHO AND RENNER. SOME OF THE AREAS ALONG THROUGH THERE THAT WE'D LIKE TO, TO REFRESH, MAYBE MOVE SOME OF THOSE STRIPS OUT SOME SO THEY'RE NOT RIGHT ON TOP OF THOSE TREES AND THEN DO MORE RIVER ROCK, FLAGSTONE, THINGS LIKE THAT. LIKE WE'VE BEEN DOING ALSO, THIS IS GOING TO BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO INCREASE SECURITY AT THE RICHARDSON WOMAN'S CLUB. WE'VE HEARD FROM SOME OF THE LADIES THERE THAT IT GETS KIND OF DARK IN THAT AREA BETWEEN THE, THE CLUBHOUSE AND THE GOLF COURSE. SO WE THINK THAT WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO INSTALL SOME SOLAR LIGHTING. WE'VE HAD
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GREAT SUCCESS WITH SOLAR LIGHTS AND OTHER SITES AROUND TOWN, AND EVEN THOUGH THAT IS HEAVILY TREED THERE, WE THINK THERE ARE A COUPLE SPOTS WHERE WE CAN ADD SOLAR LIGHTS AND BRIGHTEN THAT UP. SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT SAFER AT NIGHT. PEOPLE CAN FIND THEIR WAY OUT TO THEIR CARS AT THE END OF EVENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, AND THEN MORE TRAIL OVER AT CAMPBELL RIDGE PARK ON CAMPBELL, NEXT TO NEAR UTD. ANYWAY, THAT TRAIL HAS BEEN WELL LOVED. IT GETS USED A LOT, A LOT OF PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC GOING EAST AND WEST, BUT THERE ARE SOME AREAS LIKE THE ONE PICTURED THERE. WE NEED TO REPLACE PANELS, FIX SOME CRACKS, DO SOME GRADING TO GET THAT UP INTO THE SHAPE THAT IT THAT IT NEEDS TO BE IN. FOR PEDESTRIANS WALKING ALONG THERE. I MEAN, IN THIS AREA IS OVER. WE CALL THIS SYNERGY LAKES. AND THIS IS KIND OF THAT MARSHY AREA NORTH OF RENNER, BELOW THE HILTON GARDEN INN, OUT ON THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN. AND THIS TRAIL RUNS THROUGH THERE. IT ACTUALLY GOES OVER AND CONNECTS TO RENNER LINEAR TRAIL, AND THEN GOES AROUND AND DOWN KIND OF ALONGSIDE THE FRONTAGE ROAD OF THE THE GEORGE BUSH. BUT THIS AREA IS UNDER GREENFIELD STREET, AND THERE'S A BIG HILL THAT GOES FROM WHERE THIS TRAIL IS UP TO THE STREET. AND WE THINK THAT LARGELY THIS IS GROUNDWATER THAT IS SEEPING OUT OF THAT HILL. AND ULTIMATELY ACROSS THE TRAIL. YOU CAN SEE THE ROCK THERE ALONGSIDE THE TRAIL. AND THAT'S FROM A DRAIN PROJECT WE DID TWO SUMMERS AGO TO TRY TO ADDRESS THIS. WE CAME IN AND EXCAVATED, PUT IN A TRENCH DRAIN, BASICALLY TO TRY TO GET THE WATER OUT AND UNDERNEATH THE TRAIL AND INTO THE POND, BUT IT HAS NOT BEEN AS EFFECTIVE AS WE'D LIKE. AND THE PROBLEM IS KIND OF REEMERGED. SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS TO USE A CONCRETE BOARDWALK IN THIS SECTION WHERE THAT WATER SEEPS ACROSS THE TRAIL, BECAUSE WHAT WE FIND IS IT STAYS WET FOR SO LONG. SOMETIMES ALGAE STARTS TO GROW, IT GETS REALLY SLICK, AND IT IS IS ACTUALLY PRETTY HAZARDOUS TO BICYCLISTS WHO MAY BE COMING DOWN THERE AT A STEADY CLIP, OR EVEN PEDESTRIANS WHO ARERYING TO WALK ON THAT. SO WE'VE HAD GREAT SUCCESS WITH THAT CONCRETE BOARDWALK AND OTHER AREAS. THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF SPRING CREEK NATURE AREA. WE USE IT TO GREAT EFFECT ON THE DUCK CREEK TRAIL EXTENSION 5 OR 6 YEARS AGO, BUT WE THINK THAT WOULD DEFINITELY SOLVE THIS PROBLEM. THERE WOULDN'T BE A PLACE FOR WATER TO SIT BECAUSE THAT BOARDWALK WOULD BE SPACED, AND THERE'S A PLACE FOR THAT WATER TO GO. IT ALSO HAS A LITTLE BIT MORE ROUGHER TEXTURED SURFACE, SO IT WOULD BE GRIPPIER AS WELL. AND THEN ALSO REPLACING THE FOUNTAIN AT DUCK CREEK LINEAR PARK, YOU KNOW THAT THE PONDS, THEY'RE KIND OF IN, IN WEIRS ALONG DUCK CREEK, WE USED TO HAVE A FOUNTAIN IN ONE OF THE LARGER ONES ALONG PONDEROSA ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO. IT IT DIED BASICALLY JUST MALFUNCTIONED TO THE POINT THAT IT WAS BEYOND REPAIR. SO IT'S BEEN GONE FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS. WE HEAR ABOUT THAT OCCASIONALLY FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT IT'S A NICE FEATURE TO HAVE. IT AERATES THAT POND A LITTLE BIT AND KEEPS WATER MOVING. SO WE'D LIKE TO REPLACE THAT. THAT'D BE A GREAT USE FOR THE PARK'S MAINTENANCE FUND AS WELL. AND THEN TENNIS COURT FENCE REPLACEMENT AT HEIGHTS PARK. TENNIS COURT FENCES GET GET REALLY BEAT UP. FOR SOME REASON, YOU CAN SEE THE FENCE BOWING THERE AND STARTING TO CURL UP IN THE MIDDLE. THIS IS ONE OF THE ONES THAT WAS IDENTIFIED ON THE ASSET ASSESSMENT OF PROBABLY MOST IN NEED OF OF SOME ATTENTION RIGHT NOW. AND THESE ARE JUST THINGS WE HAVE TO REPLACE PERIODICALLY AS TIME GOES BY. SO HERE'S A LIST OF ALL THOSE PROJECTS IN A TABLE FORMAT FROM FOR MOST EXPENSIVE TO LEAST EXPENSIVE. THAT TOTALS ABOUT $665,000. THAT'S ROUGHLY IN LINE WITH WHAT THAT TRANSFER OUT HAS BEEN. OBVIOUSLY, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT FINAL SALES TAX OUR PROPERTY TAX NUMBERS ARE AT THIS POINT. SO WE MAY HAVE TO REFINE THAT SOME. WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF SOME UNALLOCATED FUNDS IN THE PARK MAINTENANCE FUND RIGHT NOW, SO WE MAY BE ABLE TO BOLSTER THAT UP. I THINK THAT IS WELL WITHIN OUR REACH AS A AS A TOTAL PROJECT COST FOR ALL THESE ITEMS, THOUGH, FOR FISCAL YEAR 27. AND THEN THERE'S A MAP OF WHERE THOSE PROJECTS ARE LOCATED THROUGHOUT THE CITY. I WANTED TO TALK REAL BRIEFLY ABOUT THE MATCHING FUND BEAUTIFICATION PROGRAM. I THINK SOME OF YOU MAY BE ALREADY VERY FAMILIAR WITH THAT. THAT'S A PROGRAM THAT'S BEEN GOING SINCE, I WANT TO SAY, THE 70S, WHERE CITIZENS HOA, CIVIC GROUPS, WHOMEVER CAN PARTNER WITH THE CITY TO IMPROVE LANDSCAPE OR BEAUTIFY PUBLIC PROPERTY. BASICALLY, THE CITY WILL MATCH WHAT THESE PARTNER ORGANIZATIONS HAVE 100% TO DO A PROJECT ON A MEDIAN OR A NEIGHBORHOOD ENTRY, OR ON A RIGHT OF WAY THAT'S PUBLICLY MANAGED SOMEWHERE, OR EVEN IN A PARK, LIKE A THE BUTTERFLY GARDEN AT BACHNER PARK. THERE IN THE PICTURE, WHICH WAS THE FIRST MATCHING FUND BEAUTIFICATION PROJECT I WORKED ON WHEN I CAME TO THE CITY ABOUT TEN YEARS AGO, AND IS STILL VERY DEAR TO MY HEART. BUT BUT TYPICALLY THAT'S WHAT WE DO. NEIGHBORHOOD ENTRIES HAVE BEEN A VERY POPULAR. WE DO A LOT OF MEDIANS AND IN PARKS, AND WE'VE ALWAYS KIND OF HAD THE POLICY THAT THESE ARE ON PUBLIC PROPERTY BECAUSE WE TYPICALLY WILL MAINTAIN THOSE AFTER THE PROJECT IS DONE. SO IF THE HOA HAS $5,000, WE'LL MATCH THAT WITH 5000. WE'VE GOT A $10,000 PROJECT AND WE CAN ACTUALLY GET SOME WORK DONE AND[02:55:03]
MAKE THINGS BEAUTIFUL. SO HERE'S A LIST OF THE THE ORGANIZATIONS, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, AND THOSE WHO HAVE APPLIED FOR MATCHING FUND BEAUTIFICATION PROJECTS THIS YEAR. BIRCKNER PARK ESTATES, NORTH RICHLAND PARK, KNOWLES, BRECKENRIDGE, PRAIRIE CREEK GARDEN CLUB AND GREENWOOD HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION BUT THEN DID WANT TO BRING YOUR ATTENTION TO ONE ITEM THAT MIGHT BE WORTHY OF CONSIDERATION. ONE OF THOSE PROJECT REQUESTS PROPOSES A LANDSCAPE RENOVATION ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, AND IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A STRANGE SITUATION BECAUSE IT'S ACTUALLY A MEDIAN. BUT PER THE COUNTY PROPERTY RECORDS, THAT IS ACTUALLY OWNED BY THIS PARTICULAR HOA. SO IF WE WERE TO PROCEED WITH THAT PROJECT, THAT WOULD REQUIRE PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT MORE ROBUST AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND THAT PARTNER GROUP. FIRST AND FOREMOST, WE WOULD NEED TO HAVE AN EASEMENT TO BE ABLE TO COME IN AND DO WORK ON THAT PROPERTY, SINCE IT IS PRIVATELY OWNED, WOULD LIKELY NEED A SURVEY JUST TO MAKE SURE WE KNOW EXACTLY WHERE WE ARE, WHAT THE BOUNDS ARE, WHERE WE CAN WORK, WHERE WE CAN'T. AND SO THAT EASEMENT CAN BE DEFINED VERY PRECISELY, AND THEN FOLLOW THE PLANNING PROCESS LIKE WE NORMALLY WOULD IN SIMILAR SITUATIONS. WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO PROVIDE ONGOING MAINTENANCE AFTER THE PROJECT IS COMPLETE, LIKE WE NORMALLY DO WITH MATCHING FUND BEAUTIFICATION PROJECTS, BECAUSE THOSE HISTORICALLY ARE ONLY DONE ON PUBLIC PROPERTY.SO WANTED TO BRING THIS TO YOUR ATTENTION. NOW AS WE'RE MOVING INTO THE BUDGET PROCESS, AND YOU'LL SEE THOSE MATCHING FUND BEAUTIFICATION PROJECTS COME ACROSS YOUR DESK TO SEE IF THIS IS A DIRECTION THAT WE WISH TO TAKE OR THE COUNCIL WISHES TO TAKE. SO NEXT STEPS, MAYBE MORE IN LINE WITH THE TRANSFER OUT TO THE PARKS MAINTENANCE FUND, WE'LL START TO DEVELOP THESE PROJECT DESIGNS AND THE OVERALL SCOPE, BEGIN IN DEPTH PROJECT PLANNING, AND THEN FINALIZE THE BUDGET AS WE RECEIVE THE CERTIFIED PROPERTY TAX VALUES. AND CITY MANAGER PREPARES TO FILE THE BUDGET. AND WITH THAT, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
COUNCILMEMBER DORIAN. THANK YOU MAYOR. SEAN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU DID THAT REALLY QUICK.
I LIKE THAT. I JUST WANT TO SAY A COUPLE THINGS. I LOVE THAT WE'RE NOT MAKING ANY CHANGES TO THE MATCHING FUND PROGRAM. I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE THAT'S AN INVALUABLE PROGRAM. IT ALWAYS HAS BEEN. I THINK IT ALWAYS WILL BE. AND I'M GLAD TO SEE THERE'S PARTICIPATION. I MEAN, GENERALLY SPEAKING, ABOUT HOW MANY PROJECTS DO WE GET A YEAR? I KNOW RIGHT NOW I THINK YOU LISTED SIX. LET'S SEE. 123. YEAH, SIX OF THEM. BUT IS THAT IS THAT NORMAL ACTIVITY FOR 4 TO 6 IS IS VERY VERY COMMON USUALLY. NO, NO MORE THAN MAYBE 7 IN 1 YEAR THAT I'VE SEEN.
EVERY NOW AND THEN IT'LL JUST BE 1 OR 2. BUT WE ALWAYS GET GET APPLICATIONS AND WE LOVE DOING THOSE PROJECTS. GOOD. I KNOW SOME PEOPLE WHEN I'M OUT AND ABOUT JUST, YOU KNOW, EDUCATING SOME OF THE RESIDENTS, SOME OF THEM ARE NOT EVEN FAMILIAR WITH THE MATCHING FUND PROGRAM. SO I TRY TO CONVEY THAT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THAT'S AS AN EXTENSION OF WHAT OUR CITY LOOKS LIKE AND HOW IT'S PERCEIVED. SO I THINK IT'S SUPER IMPORTANT. WHICH BRINGS ME TO THE NEXT QUESTION. I LIKE THAT YOU SAID THAT WE'RE ADDING SOME CONSISTENCY IN THE LANDSCAPING AND SOME OF THE MEDIUMS. I THINK THE THE LARGE ROCK FORMATION IS A LITTLE MORE ARCHITECTURAL. AND I THINK WHEN YOU'RE GOING, YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, DRIVING THROUGH THE CITY, YOU SEE SOME OF THAT CONSISTENCY DOESN'T HAVE TO BE MATCHY MATCHY THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE CITY, BUT I DO LIKE TO SEE SOME CONSISTENCY. AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE I HAD SOMEONE WELL, ON A BOARD I'M ON MENTIONED THAT THEY DRIVE THEIR DAUGHTER TO SOCCER PRACTICE OVER IN GARLAND, BUT THEY DRIVE THROUGH RICHARDSON AND THEY SAID EVERY TIME THEY COME THROUGH HERE, THEY SAY THEY LOVE SEEING THE WILDFLOWERS, THE WILDFLOWERS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. AND I JUST THOUGHT, I LIKE THAT. THAT'S GOOD. SO IT'S, IT'S THAT KIND OF RECOGNITION THAT I'D LIKE TO SEE IN SOME OF THE ARCHITECTURAL ENHANCEMENTS OR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURAL ENHANCEMENTS. AND ON THE LIGHTING, I'M TRYING TO GO QUICK AS WELL ON THE LIGHTING THAT YOU'RE PROVIDING AT THE WOMAN'S CLUB. IS THAT GOING TO BE POLE LIGHTING, OR IS THAT A COMBINATION OF TREE SOLAR AND AND IT'S POLITE. IT'S ALL POLE.
OKAY. OH YEAH. AND THEN. AND THEN ALSO ON THE RESTROOMS, I DO LIKE THE RESTROOMS OVER AT BRECON. I'M NOT I'M SORRY. HUFFINES IS THAT GOING TO BE THE NEW DIRECTION OF RESTROOMS? YEAH, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING THE LAST THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS IS REPLACE THOSE OLDER, YOU KNOW, CMU RESTROOM BUILDINGS. WE'RE USING THE PREFAB ONES. YEAH, I KNOW, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I LIKE THAT APPROACH IN THAT DIRECTION. SO I APPRECIATE Y'ALL PAYING ATTENTION TO SOME OF THOSE DETAILS. YOU SAID YOU HAVE TO HAVE THOSE PRODUCED AND, AND BROUGHT IN AS A UNIT AND THEY'RE NOT. ARE THEY BUILT ON SITE OR THEY'RE NOT? THEY'RE PREFAB. THEY BRING THEM IN ON A, ON A TRAILER WITH A CRANE. AND LITERALLY, WE WILL TELL THEM
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POWERS ON THE LEFT SIDE WATERS ON THE RIGHT SIDE. SO THEY DO THE PLUMBING AND EVERYTHING AT THE FACTORY AND THEY, THEY PLOP IT IN PLACE, HOOK IT UP, AND IT'S READY TO GO. THAT'S GREAT.IT'S FANTASTIC. YEAH, I LOVE THAT. IT'S LIKE IT'S, IT'S CUBE HOMES OR CUBE RESTROOMS IN THIS CASE, AGAIN, GREAT PRESENTATION. I DO SUPPORT ALL THE REVISIONS THAT YOU'RE THAT YOU'RE MAKING.
I LOVE, I LOVE SEEING SOME OF THE FUNDING GO INTO THESE AREAS THAT I MENTIONED. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER. THANK YOU. MAYOR SHAWN, A FEW QUESTIONS. YOU MENTIONED THE MEDIANS ON PLANO ROAD AND JUPITER, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, WERE THOSE BEING UPGRADED TO THE RIVER ROCKS? IS THAT WHAT THE. YEAH, THAT WILL DEFINITELY BE AN ASPECT OF THE DESIGN ON THOSE. SO JUST THAT'S GOING TO BE PART OF IT. OKAY. THE YOU USE THE TERM. I'LL BE HONEST. I GOOGLED IT AND LOOKED AT AND LOOKED AT THE IMAGE BECAUSE I WASN'T SURE WHAT IT WAS, BUT I BELIEVE YOU CALLED IT THE ELEVATED BOARDWALK. THE CONCRETE ELEVATED BOARDWALK.
YES, I'M THINKING CONCRETE. I'M THINKING CONCRETE CRACKS. CONCRETE IS HEAVY, WHICH REQUIRES STRUCTURE. SO HELP ME UNDERSTAND, AS SOMEBODY WHO'S NOT A PARK EXPERT, YOU KNOW, IF I, WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THINGS LIKE BACKYARD FENCES AND SOME OF THE STUFF, A LOT OF TIMES OUR BACKYARD DECKS GOING TO LIKE A COMPOSITE OR, YOU KNOW, SOME KIND OF USUALLY POLY TYPE MATERIAL. I THINK I WAS, I THINK IT'S SOUTH PADRE THAT HAS ONE OF THOSE POLY TYPE ELEVATED BOARDWALKS. I THINK THAT'S WHERE I WAS ONE RECENTLY. WHY, WHY CONCRETE VERSUS SOMETHING ELSE. IS THAT A COST FACTOR? IS THAT A MAINTENANCE FACTOR. IT'S MAINTENANCE AS MUCH AS ANYTHING.
AND THE SPECIFIC PRODUCT THAT WE HAVE IN MIND IS, IS ENGINEERED EXACTLY FOR APPLICATIONS LIKE THIS, YOU KNOW, IN PARKS OUTDOORS, WHERE, YOU KNOW, IT CAN BE INUNDATED WITH WATER TO, TO HOLD UP REALLY, REALLY WELL. BUT THE CONCRETE IS, IS BUILT IN SUCH A WAY, YOU KNOW, IT'S REINFORCED SO THAT, YOU KNOW, CRACKING AND CRUMBLING IS NOT NOT MORE OF AN ISSUE WITH THIS THAN IT IS WITH JUST A, YOU KNOW, FLATWORK CONCRETE TRAIL. AND WE'VE TESTED IT IN OTHER SITES AROUND TOWN. IT WORKS VERY WELL. A FEW MONTHS BACK, OVER THE WINTER, I WALKED THAT AREA AND YES, IT WAS REALLY SLIPPERY. AND I SAW, YOU KNOW, I COMPARED IT TO LIKE A FRENCH DRAIN TYPE THAT YOU ALL BUILT THAT OUT, BUT OBVIOUSLY IT'S STILL AN ISSUE.
SO I THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT. THE MATCHING FUNDS IS THERE ARE CERTAIN TYPE OF PROJECT THEY HAVE TO BE. IS THERE A MAX FOR IT? WHAT'S AVERAGE. BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY 30,009 THOUSAND ARE VERY DIFFERENT TYPES OF PROJECTS, YOU KNOW, AND IF WE DOUBLE THAT. SO THAT'S 60. I'M THINKING WHAT THE HECK ARE YOU BUILDING FOR 60? THOSE NUMBERS ARE THE TOTAL PROJECT COST.
YEAH. FOR, FOR EACH OF THESE PROJECTS. SO THAT THAT NUMBER, THAT 30,000 REPRESENTS 15 FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND 1515 FROM THE CITY. YEAH. SORRY, SORRY, I DIDN'T MAKE THAT CLEAR. THEY ARE USUALLY AROUND 5 TO $10,000. YOU KNOW, THAT'S IT VARIES. BUT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, MORE OFTEN THAN NOT, THAT'S, THAT'S THE SWEET SPOT WHERE WE ARE SOMETIMES 15, SOMETIMES 20. BUT A LOT OF THEM ARE SMALLER LIKE THAT. OKAY. IS THAT OFFICIAL POLICY? SAY, HEY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO MATCH MORE THAN 15 OR WE'RE NOT GOING TO MATCH MORE THAN WE DON'T. WE DON'T HAVE A CAP ON THAT. WE JUST KIND OF TAKE THEM AS WE GET THOSE, THOSE APPLICATIONS AND LOOK AT WHAT THE PROJECT IS AND MAKE DECISIONS FROM THERE. OKAY. THANK YOU SEAN, APPRECIATE IT.
COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE. THANK YOU. JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, MR. ROGERS, ON THE $665,000 WORK PLAN. HOW DOES THAT COMPARE TO FISCAL YEAR 26? IS IT THE SAME? I'M SORRY. ON THE WHAT? HOW DOES IT COMPARE TO FISCAL YEAR 26? THE PROPOSED 665,000? IS IT THE SAME OR. I THINK THE TOTAL TRANSFER OUT INTO THE PARK FUND WAS 623 OKAY. 600 AND YEAH, I MEAN, IT'S THIS ISN'T THIS ISN'T THE ACTUAL TRANSFER. THIS IS THEIR PROPOSED WORK PLAN. AS OF NOW, WE'RE NOT INDEXING ANY OF THE TRANSFER OUT. SO IT WILL REMAIN FLAT FROM 26. OKAY. YEAH. AND IT WAS ABOUT 623,000 I THINK. THANK YOU. AND THEN YOU ASKED US A QUESTION THERE AT THE END ABOUT COUNCIL CONSIDERATION WITH RESPECT TO PRIVATE PROPERTY AND HOAS. I GET THAT QUESTION ALL THE TIME WHEN I VISIT HOAS IN THE PANHANDLE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE WISH WE COULD DO THIS. AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN THE CITY DO? AND OUR POLICY, I THINK, HAS BEEN THIS IS PRIVATE PROPERTY. AND SO WE CANNOT MATCH FOR SOME OF THE REASONS YOU'VE POINTED OUT IN THE PRESENTATION, WHICH IS WE CAN'T COME ON AND MAINTAIN IT AFTERWARDS AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. SO I THINK WE SHOULD MAINTAIN THAT POLICY. BUT I DO HOPE THAT THERE'S A WAY THAT WE CAN LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES WHERE WE MAY HAVE EXISTING EASEMENTS, FOR EXAMPLE, WHERE WE COULD GO ON AND MAINTAIN THEM. AND SO IT'S QUASI PUBLIC IN SOME WAYS BECAUSE OF OUR EASEMENT, BECAUSE I WOULD REALLY LIKE FOR US TO FIND A WAY TO SUPPORT THOSE WHO WAS
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OUT THERE WITH THE MATCHING BEAUTIFICATION. SO I DON'T KNOW WHETHER A PROJECT LIKE THIS, IF THAT WOULD QUALIFY, BUT I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO ADDRESS THAT GAP THAT WE HAVE IN SUPPORTING THE HOA'S ACROSS THE CITY, MOST OF THEM IN THE PANHANDLE. SO AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT ANSWER IS, BUT MY DIRECTIVE, I GUESS, IS I'M INTERESTED IN US FINDING A WAY TO SUPPORT THEM SOMEHOW. AND LIKE I SAID, MAYBE IT'S THAT THERE'S AN EXISTING EASEMENT SOMEWHERE. AND SO THAT'S, LIKE I SAID, A QUASI PUBLIC USE IN SOME WAY THAT WE COULD GO ON AND MAINTAIN. BUT AGAIN, I HEAR IT EVERY TIME I VISIT ONE OF THE HOA'S OUT THERE. AND SO I WOULD LOVE FOR US TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO DO THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, ISN'T USING PUBLIC FUNDS ON WHOLLY PRIVATE PROPERTY. SO THAT THAT IS NOT HELPFUL TO ANSWER THE QUESTION YOU ASKED, BUT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO SORT OF SAY THERE IS A NEED, AND I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO FIND A WAY TO ADDRESS IT. FORTUNATELY, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME A SITUATION LIKE THAT HAS COME UP IN MY CAREER HERE, AND I THINK IT'S A JUST A WEIRD SITUATION WHERE THAT THAT MEDIAN FOR WHATEVER REASON IS, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERED PRIVATE PROPERTY. A LOT OF THE MEDIANS AND NEIGHBORHOOD ENTRIES THAT WE USE ARE PROBABLY IN A SIMILAR SITUATION WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE OWNERSHIP IS NOT SPECIFIC. SO WE'RE ABLE TO MOVE IN. SO IT'S A SIMILAR THING. BUT YEAH. RIGHT. YEAH. I MEAN, I MY ONLY HESITANCY HERE IS ARE WE GOING TO BE CREATING SOMEHOW, YOU KNOW, A BASELINE AND, YOU KNOW, ARE WE GOING TO CREATE SOME SORT OF PRECEDENT? AND SO THAT WOULD BE MY HESITANCY. MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE, LET'S GO LOOK AT IT HOLISTICALLY AND SEE IF THERE IS SORT OF A RULE SET THAT WE CAN COME UP WITH, THAT WE FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH, VERSUS SORT OF DOING THEM ONE OFF LIKE THIS. THAT WOULD BE MY PREFERENCE.SURE. COUNCILMEMBER CORCORAN, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SO FIRST, JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE A COUPLE WEEKS OFF AFTER THIS, I WANT TO SAY HAPPY EARLY PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH. IT'S IN JULY.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I JUST I DON'T REALLY HAVE A LOT OF COMMENTS ON THE DECISIONS BECAUSE YOU HIT ALL THE POINTS FROM LAST YEAR VERY WELL. YOU HAVE A LOT OF GOOD POINTS GOING FORWARD THIS YEAR. BUT, YOU KNOW, I MAYBE I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT AS A REMINDER TO COUNCIL. AND JUST AS WE'RE KIND OF LOOKING AT DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT THINGS IN THE BUDGET PROCESS, YOU KNOW, WITH THE BOND DISCUSSION, WE MADE A VERY CONSCIOUS DECISION TO NOT FOCUS ON INCREASING SORT OF OUR CAPACITY FOR SOCCER FIELDS AND ATHLETIC FIELDS, AND INSTEAD FOCUSED ON THE BRIDGE AT BRECKENRIDGE PARK. SO WHEN IT COMES TO THINGS LIKE THE FERTILIZER AND SORT OF THE TURF MAINTENANCE THAT'S RECOMMENDED IN THE PARKS LETTER, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY NEED TO KEEP OUR EYE ON THE BALL WITH, BECAUSE IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO INCREASE THE CAPACITY TO RELIEVE THE PRESSURE ON THE FIELDS, I FEEL LIKE IS A STRATEGIC DECISION, WE AT LEAST NEED TO FOCUS THE MONEY ON TO MAINTAINING THE FIELDS THAT WE HAVE. SO JUST SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M PAYING REALLY CLOSE ATTENTION TO WHEN I LOOK AT THIS. AND THEN MY, MY OTHER QUESTION REALLY IS WITH THIS HOA AND REALLY, COUNCILMEMBER JUSTICE, I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND YOUR THOUGHTS A LITTLE BIT MORE BECAUSE I WAS LOOKING AT THIS AND SAYING, OH, THIS MAY BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO DO SOME SORT OF EXPERIMENT, SORT OF PROOF OF CONCEPT ON WAYS TO IMPLEMENT THIS AND CREATE A PROCESS FOR IMPLEMENTING SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN THE HOA, LIKE THE PRIVATE SPACE. AND I THINK I'M JUST NOT UNDERSTANDING MAYBE THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE CONSEQUENCE THERE. AND SO IS IT JUST THE PRECEDENCE OF IF WE HAVE TO DO IT FOR THIS, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO MATCHING FOR BEAUTIFICATION FOR ALL SORT OF PRIVATE HOMES. AND WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT FROM A BUDGET PERSPECTIVE. OR IS THERE SOME SORT OF LIKE LEGAL CONSEQUENCE OR INCREASED RISK TO THE CITY? WHAT ARE YOU WHERE ARE YOU COMING FROM? I CAN'T I CAN'T GIVE LEGAL ADVICE YOU ASKED FOR, BUT I THINK I UNDERSTAND. I THINK THAT THE ISSUE I WOULD SAY IS USING PUBLIC FUNDS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY IS JUST AN ISSUE IN GENERAL, AND THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE WOULD BE DOING IN THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT. AND SO I MY THOUGHT WAS, ARE THERE AGAIN, IT'S JUST A TERM I MADE UP THINKING ABOUT THIS, BUT, YOU KNOW, QUASI PUBLIC PROPERTY WHERE WE MIGHT HAVE A ENTRY FEATURE AS AN EXAMPLE, WHERE AN EASEMENT RUNS THROUGH IT. YOU KNOW, COULD WE ARGUE THEN THAT THERE'S A PUBLIC COMPONENT OF THAT PRIVATE PROPERTY? WE WOULD BE ABLE TO GO ON TO IT AND MAINTAIN IT IF WE MATCHED USE MATCHING FUNDS IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE. I MEAN, WE'VE BEEN TOLD WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GO ON AND MAINTAIN IT. SO WE'D BE USING PUBLIC FUNDS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY THAT WE THEN WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN. SO WE WOULD BE SORT OF LEFT TO THE DEVICES OF THAT PARTICULAR HOA TO MAINTAIN THE INVESTMENT OF THOSE PUBLIC FUNDS. AND SO AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RIGHT ANSWER IS. IT'S SOMETHING THAT I YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT WHEN I GO OUT THERE. AND SO I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO EXPLORE IT. BUT YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK THE ISSUE IS, IS USING PUBLIC FUNDS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. IS THERE IS THERE EVER A CIRCUMSTANCE WHERE WE USE PUBLIC FUNDS FOR ENHANCING
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SORT OF THE, I GUESS, SORT OF THE BEAUTIFICATION ASPECT OF PRIVATE PROPERTY WITH BUSINESSES IN TOWN OR KIND OF GIVE THEM GRANTS. YEAH. YOU KNOW, WE'LL, WE'LL CALL THEM SITE MODERNIZATION GRANTS AND WHATNOT. BUT I THINK JUST, JUST IF, IF I SEE WHERE THIS IS HEADED, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE HAVE A GOOD, YOU KNOW, 8 TO 10 WEEKS BEFORE THE BUDGET HAS TO BE ADOPTED. SO THERE I DO BELIEVE THERE ARE SOME GUARDRAILS THAT WE COULD PUT IN PLACE THAT WOULD BE PRETTY ARTICULATE ABOUT WHAT KIND OF PROJECT WE WOULD BE WILLING OR OPEN TO PARTNERING WITH A MANDATORY HOA ON, BECAUSE I DO THINK THERE ARE I MEAN, THIS IS ACTUALLY A. AND IT'S NOT THAT WE CAN'T NECESSARILY MAINTAIN THIS IN PERPETUITY. IT'S. DO WE WANT TO. AND THAT'S A POLICY DECISION FOR YOU FOR YOU TO MAKE. RIGHT. AND SO I DO BELIEVE THERE ARE SOME WITH THE RIGHT LEGAL INSTRUMENT IN PLACE. SO I DO BELIEVE THAT WE CAN BRING YOU SOME GUARDRAILS. AND, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF WE LEFT, EVEN IF THAT DIDN'T OCCUR BEFORE THE BUDGET ADOPTION AND WE LEFT THIS IN THE BUDGET, AND ULTIMATELY YOU DECIDED NOT TO USE IT OR NOT TO AMEND THE MATCHING FUND BEAUTIFICATION PROGRAM. WE COULD PUT THAT TOWARDS SOME OF THESE OTHER PROJECTS. BUT IF THAT'S SOME IF EVERYONE'S INTERESTED IN THAT, WE'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO TAKE THAT ON. WE'LL BRING YOU BACK A RECOMMENDATION FOR HOW, IF YOU IF YOU DESIRE, YOU COULD INCLUDE MANDATORY HOAS UNDER CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES FOR A MATCHING FUND. BEAUTIFICATION. IT SEEMS LIKE AN IDEA WORTH DISCUSSING MORE AND FLESHING OUT MORE. I MEAN, YEAH, THIS ISN'T ENOUGH DETAIL FOR US TO MAKE A POLICY DECISION LIKE THAT, BUT IT'S A GOOD STARTING POINT. GOOD. COUNCIL MEMBER GRIFFIN. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.HEY, JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU. THAT THAT LOOKS LIKE THE GALLATIN PLAZA FOUNTAIN CAME REALLY IN A GOOD COST. INITIALLY, WE THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD BE A HUGE EXPENSE. THAT WAS LIKE A FEW YEARS AGO. SO NOW THE QUESTION IS, DO YOU HAVE ANY MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT WITH THE MANUFACTURER OR OR SUPPLIER? WE DO HAVE A MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT WITH THEM.
SO WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THEM WHICH PROVIDES FOR THEM TO COME OUT FOUR TIMES A YEAR JUST TO GO THROUGH EVERYTHING, MAKE SURE IT'S UP TO SNUFF. AND THEN WE KIND OF HAVE THEM ON, ON CALL AS WELL. THEY CAN ACTUALLY REMOTE INTO THE FOUNTAIN BECAUSE IT'S, YOU KNOW, CONNECTED TO THE INTERNET AND, YOU KNOW, REPROGRAMED TAKE A LOOK AT THINGS IF WE NEED THEM TO. SO IT'S BEEN A GOOD ARRANGEMENT. OKAY, GREAT. WONDERFUL. THANK YOU. AND NOW REGARDING YOUR SLIDE 20. TRYING WITH THAT. SLIDE 22. THE BRECKENRIDGE PARK TRAIL. IS THAT GOING TO BE THE IN-HOUSE DESIGN, OR DO YOU HAVE A CONSULTANT DOING THE WORK FOR THIS? WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AS WE DEVELOP THE PROJECT SCOPE AND DECIDE EXACTLY, YOU KNOW, HOW FAR THAT NEEDS TO GO. TYPICALLY, STUFF LIKE THAT WE WILL KIND OF DO IN-HOUSE, BUT IF WE NEED TO BRING A CONSULTANT IN, WE MAY DO SO. OKAY. YEAH. I MEAN, DEFINITELY YOU HIT THE RIGHT POINT THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO LOOK A LITTLE BIT CLOSER, BUT NOT LIKE CLOSER MEANS, BUT STILL LIKE GO 30,000FT ABOVE, RIGHT, A LITTLE BIT WIDER AREA.
NOW, NOW THE NEXT SLIDE, THAT BRECKENRIDGE PARK B RESTROOM THAT YOU HAVE, YOU SAID THAT'S THE I HAVE NOT USED THAT RESTROOM. SO I CAN'T REALLY SAY WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE INSIDE, BUT WHAT'S THE PLAN FOR MAKING THIS THING REGULAR RESTROOM IN THE FUTURE? LIKE WITH ACTUAL PLUMBING, THAT WOULD REQUIRE MOVING IT ACROSS THE ROAD OVER BY THE CHAMPIONSHIP FIELD WHERE WE COULD ACTUALLY GET PLUMBING AND POWER TO IT. BUT THAT MAY BE IS THAT PART OF THE BRECKENRIDGE PLAN WE DO FOR THE BRECKENRIDGE SPRAY PAD? WE WILL HAVE A RESTROOM AS PART OF THAT PROJECT, BUT THAT'S GOING TO BE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT PARKING LOT. SO CLOSER TO THE ENTRANCE WHEN YOU COME IN. SO THERE WILL BE A RESTROOM AND ADDITIONAL PARKING IN THAT SPACE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR GOOD PRESENTATION. MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHENRIDER. THANK YOU MAYOR. FIRST OFF, SEAN, GREAT PRESENTATION. REALLY APPRECIATE IT. AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO TO LEND MY MY SUPPORT AS WELL TO WHAT MR. MAGNER WAS TALKING ABOUT, TRYING TO COME UP WITH A WAY THAT WE CAN WORK WITH THE MANDATORY HOSE TO BE ABLE TO, TO, TO DO THIS. I THINK, I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE A REALLY HARD LOOK AND BE ABLE TO OFFER THIS TO THEM AND CREATE A, AND CREATE A, SOME TYPE OF A PRODUCT WHERE, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN IT AND WE WORK COLLABORATIVELY WITH THEM. SO I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING BECOME OF THAT, AS YOU MENTIONED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER BARRIOS. THANK YOU, MAYOR SEAN. I WANTED TO PROVIDE SOME FEEDBACK BECAUSE I DIDN'T DO IT REGARDING THIS DISCUSSION AROUND THE MAINTENANCE AND PRIVATELY OWNED MEDIANS. I
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THINK FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, WHEN WE WRITE POLICY OR LEGISLATION AS A BODY, WE NEED TO THINK OF THE EXTREMES OF WHAT COULD HAPPEN. AND ALTHOUGH I ASSURE YOU, I HAVEN'T HEARD AS MANY PEOPLE TALK ABOUT IT AS COUNCILMAN JUSTICE HAS, BECAUSE I KNOW SHE LIVES CLOSE TO THAT PART OF THE CITY. I'VE TALKED TO A FEW PEOPLE ABOUT THIS OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, HAVE BROUGHT IT UP AT VARIOUS HOA MEETINGS. AND WHILE I UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY'RE AT ON IT, I THINK IT'S WE START ENTERING VERY DANGEROUS GROUNDS WHEN WE START PUTTING PUBLIC FUNDS INTO PRIVATE PROPERTY. AND I'M VERY CONCERNED OF WHAT THAT MIGHT OPEN UP FOR THIS.AND FUTURE COUNCILS. AND THE REALITY IS, I THINK THAT IF WE START OPENING, IF WE OPEN UP THAT CAN OF WORMS, FUTURE COUNCILS ARENG TO BE ASKED, WELL, THEY DID IT THERE. WHY CAN'T WE DO IT HERE? AND THAT'S KIND OF A DANGEROUS ROAD TO GO DOWN. SO I THINK CONSERVATIVELY THE ANSWER IS TO NOT TOUCH IT. THAT'S MY $0.02. NOW STAFF COMES UP WITH SOMETHING CREATIVE. I'M I'M, YOU KNOW, OPEN TO LISTENING. BUT I'M I'M VERY, VERY HESITANT WITH THIS IDEA. I THINK THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF BENEFITS THAT COME WITH A MANDATORY HOA. THERE ARE A LOT OF GREAT REASONS PEOPLE CHOOSE TO JOIN THEM, BUT THAT IS PART OF THE DOWNSIDE IS THAT IS PRIVATE PROPERTY AND THAT IS UP TO THE HOA. YOU KNOW, THEY WANT THE PRIVACY, THEY WANT A LOT OF THINGS, THE POSITIVES THAT COME WITH IT. BUT WITH THE POSITIVE ALSO COME CHALLENGES.
AND THIS IS ONE OF THE CHALLENGES. SO I'M CONCERNED ON WHAT THAT MAY DO TO FUTURE COUNCILS. AND AGAIN, THINKING OF THOSE EXTREMES. SO I, I AM NOT A FAN OF THE IDEA OF USING PUBLIC MONEY ON ON PRIVATE LAND. COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE. YEAH, I'LL JUST SAY, I MEAN, MY STAFF, I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR THE POINT, BUT LIKE GARLAND HAS A PROGRAM, FOR EXAMPLE, WHERE, YOU KNOW, THEY IT'S MANDATORY AND VOLUNTARY AND THERE'S A WHOLE I'M LOOKING AT IT NOW A WHOLE FIVE PAGE DOCUMENT OF GUIDELINES. AND IT'S VARIOUS, YOU KNOW, PARTICULAR. AND SO I THINK I, I SHARE YOUR CONCERN. I THINK THAT'S WHY THE CITY HAS NEVER DONE IT. BUT, YOU KNOW, GIVEN WE'VE BEEN ASKED THE QUESTION TONIGHT AND IT'S SOMETHING I HAVE ASKED OF STAFF BEFORE AS WELL. YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S WORTH EXPLORING AND IT'S NOT A DECISION WE HAVE TO MAKE TONIGHT. BUT I LIKE THE IDEA OF ASKING STAFF TO LOOK INTO IT. ALL RIGHT. I'LL JUST I THINK OVERALL THRILLED THRILLED TO SEE THE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I TOO WOULD LIKE TO AT LEAST VISIT WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE AND WHETHER OR NOT THERE ARE GUIDELINES THAT AREN'T DANGEROUS. OKAY, WE ARE DONE WITH THAT ITEM. SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO REPORTING ON ITEMS
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OF COMMUNITY INTEREST. ANYBODY DO ANYTHING OR WANT TO SAY ANYTHING INTERESTING? YES.COUNCIL MEMBER BARRIOS. THANK YOU. MAYOR, YOU KNOW, I'VE KIND OF BEEN QUIET ON THESE COMMUNITY INTEREST THINGS FOR A WHILE BECAUSE MY BRAIN AND TIME HAS BEEN IN MANY DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS. BUT THIS PAST WEEK, I KNOW YOU AND YOUR LOVELY WIFE WERE ALSO THERE WHERE IT WAS AT THE MEXICO KOREA FIFA WATCH PARTY OVER AT CITY LINE. AND I'LL BE HONEST, I THOUGHT I'D STOP IN AND SEE, YOU KNOW, 50, MAYBE 100 PEOPLE THERE AND THERE WAS WAY MORE PEOPLE THERE THAN I COULD EVER IMAGINE. SO I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT WAS ORGANIZED IF WE EVEN HAD A PART IN IT. I DON'T THINK WE DID. BUT IT WAS ABSOLUTELY AMAZING BECAUSE I THINK THERE WERE EASILY A THOUSAND PEOPLE THERE. YEAH, EASILY. IT WAS PACKED. IT WAS SHOULDER TO SHOULDER.
PEOPLE WERE DANCING. WE HAD A LOT OF HISPANICS. WE HAD KOREAN. WE HAD PEOPLE OF MANY DIFFERENT PLACES JUST THERE CHOOSING A SIDE AND CHEERING. AND IT WAS I HAD A I HAD A BLAST AND LOOKED LIKE MAYOR. YOU AND YOUR WIFE ALSO WERE HAVING A BLAST THERE. SO YOU DEFINITELY WERE. OH YES.
MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHENRIDER. THANK YOU. MAYOR. I JUST WANTED TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO THE STAFF FOR PM PINTS. WE HAD A GREAT PRESENTATION ON STATE LEGISLATION, ITS IMPACT ON EDUCATION, TECH AND GROWTH, AND HAD EXCELLENT SPEAKERS. AND IT WAS JUST VERY, VERY WELL ATTENDED. SO JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. I THINK THE PM PROGRAM HAS BEEN A REAL SUCCESS AND REALLY APPRECIATE THE CITY STAFF AND ALL THE EFFORTS THAT HAVE BEEN DONE ON THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ABSOLUTELY. I'VE JUST GOT A FEW ITEMS I'LL START OFF WITH. THANK YOU FOR HUMORING THE TIMER THING. WE WERE JUST KIND OF MAKE SHIFTING IT, BUT I THOUGHT IT WORKED OUT NICELY. AND I WELCOME ANY INPUT FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO MAY LIKE TO SEE ME APPROACH IT A
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LITTLE DIFFERENTLY, BUT I APPRECIATE EVERYONE HUMORING ME IN THIS MEETING. WE DID HAVE A GREAT HOA PRESIDENTS MEETING. I THOUGHT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION PRESIDENTS MEETING, AS ALWAYS, JUST WELL DONE, WELL EXECUTED ON OUR SIDE AND WELL ATTENDED ON THE PRESIDENT'S SIDE. I KNOW A FEW OF US ATTENDED WORLD REFUGEE DAY, WHICH I BELIEVE WAS SATURDAY.ONCE AGAIN, A REALLY GREAT PROGRAM AND SOME WONDERFUL COMMUNITY PARTNERS ALL COMING TOGETHER. AND IMPORTANT OCCASION, I THINK, AND A GREAT WAY TO WELCOME PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE AS REFUGEES. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY, A BELATED HAPPY FATHER'S DAY TO THOSE OF YOU WHO DID NOT GET A FATHER'S DAY RECOGNITION ON FATHER'S DAY, I GOT THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEND A LITTLE BIT OF TIME WITH SOME OF THE FOLKS IN OUR SKATING COMMUNITY, CONSIDERING IT WAS FATHER'S DAY AND KIND OF THROWN TOGETHER AT THE LAST MINUTE, TO HAVE MORE THAN 2 OR 3 PEOPLE SHOW UP WAS WAS PRETTY COOL. WE HAD SOMEWHERE AROUND 40 PEOPLE AND THAT INCLUDED, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A FATHER AND A DAUGHTER THAT CAME FROM ALLEN THAT WANTED TO COME SKATEBOARD TOGETHER. AND THERE WERE JUST A TON OF FOLKS FROM, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE 3 TO 53, MAYBE 63 EVEN.
THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN A COUPLE OLDER GUYS IN THAT CATEGORY THAT, THAT WERE THERE WITH THEIR SKATEBOARDS. SO JUST A COOL, A COOL THING AND SOMETHING I WAS NOT EXPECTING TO HAVE TURNOUT FOR, BUT, BUT FUN TO SEE PEOPLE GETTING OUT AND GETTING EXCITED ABOUT GETTING ON FOUR WHEELS. ALL RIGHT. IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE AND THERE'S NO FURTHER BUSINESS, THIS MEETING
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