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CALL THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION TO ORDER ON THIS THURSDAY, AUGUST 6TH, 2026 AT 6 P.M. THE PLAN COMMISSION CONSISTS OF RICHARDSON RESIDENTS APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL. THERE ARE SEVEN REGULAR MEMBERS AND TWO ALTERNATES ON THE COMMISSION, BUT ONLY SEVEN MEMBERS WILL VOTE ON AN ISSUE. ALTHOUGH ALL MEMBERS WILL PARTICIPATE IN DISCUSSIONS AND DELIBERATIONS. SINCE WE HAVE SEVEN HERE TONIGHT, EVERYBODY'S VOTING.

THIS IS A BUSINESS MEETING AND WILL BE CONDUCTED AS SUCH IN THAT REGARD. PLEASE SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONES. AND SO THEY DON'T INTERRUPT THE MEETING. OUR PROCEEDINGS ARE RECORDED, SO PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD WHEN ADDRESSING THE COMMISSION. WE DO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT. SO EACH PUBLIC HEARING IS PRECEDED BY A STAFF INTRODUCTION OF THE REQUEST. THE APPLICANT IS THEN PERMITTED 15 MINUTES TO MAKE THEIR PRESENTATION TO THE COMMISSION. THEY MAY RESERVE ANY PORTION OF THIS TIME FOR A FINAL REBUTTAL.

TIME SPENT IN ANSWERING QUESTIONS ASKED BY THE COMMISSION IS NOT COUNTED AGAINST THE APPLICANT. ALL SPEAKERS ARE REQUESTED TO COMPLETE A PUBLIC COMMENT CARD AND SUBMIT IT TO A RECORDING SECRETARY BEFORE THE MEETING BEGINS. THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OR OPPOSITION TO THE REQUEST WILL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES EACH TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION. SO WHEN THE TIMER BEEPS, THE SPEAKER SHOULD CONCLUDE THEIR COMMENTS PROMPTLY. SPEAKERS MUST NOT PHYSICALLY APPROACH MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION OR STAFF, AND SHOULD REMAIN AT THE LECTERN DURING THEIR COMMENTS. IF YOU HAVE HANDOUTS, ALSO PLEASE PROVIDE THEM TO OUR RECORDING SECRETARY. IF THERE ARE ORGANIZED GROUPS IN ATTENDANCE, WE SUGGEST THAT YOU SELECT REPRESENTATIVES TO PRESENT YOUR OBJECTIONS. THE COMMISSION IS INTERESTED IN GATHERING NEW AND RELEVANT INFORMATION. WE'RE NOT INTERESTED IN REPETITION.

PLEASE ADDRESS ALL COMMENTS TO THE COMMISSION, NOT TO MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE. AFTER A BRIEF REBUTTAL BY THE APPLICANT, THE HEARING WILL BE CLOSED AND NO FURTHER TESTIMONY WILL BE PERMITTED. SO THOSE ARE OUR RULES. SO WE'LL GET ON WITH OUR AGENDA TONIGHT. FIRST, WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS THAT ARE NOT A PUBLIC HEARING. SO THAT REALLY ONLY APPLIES TO THE MINUTES FROM OUR PREVIOUS BUSINESS MEETING. ANY SPEAKERS ON FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING

[1. Approval of the minutes of the regular business meeting of July 21, 2026. ]

NONE. WE'LL GET ON TO APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR BUSINESS MEETING OF JULY 21ST, 2026. ANY COMMENTS, CHANGES. CORRECTIONS. I'D MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES. THE MINUTES AS WRITTEN. SECOND, SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER SHEK. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AND THAT

[2. Zoning File 26-15 – Richland Village: Consider and act on a request to rezone approximately 6.7 acres located at 300 S. Plano Road, on the west side of S. Plano Road, south of E. Belt Line Road, from LR-M(1) Local Retail with Special Conditions to PD Planned Development with a base zoning district of LR-M(2) Local Retail with amended use and development standards. Owner: Nandakumar Ramani, Scuben Plano, LLC. Staff: Derica Peters. ]

PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. SO NOW WE'LL GO ON TO ITEM NUMBER TWO. THIS IS OUR PUBLIC HEARING ZONING FILE 26-15 FOR RICHLAND VILLAGE. AND MISS PETERS. THANK YOU CHAIR. THE SUBJECT SITE FOR THIS ZONING REQUEST IS LOCATED AT 300 SOUTH PLANO ROAD. THIS IS ON THE WEST SIDE OF PLANO ROAD AND SOUTH OF THE INTERSECTION AT BELTLINE ROAD. THIS IS A REQUEST TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM LOCAL RETAIL ONE TO LOCAL RETAIL TWO I'M SORRY TO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT WITH A BASE ZONING DISTRICT OF LOCAL RETAIL, TWO WITH AMENDED USES AND AMENDED DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY DEVELOPED WITH A APPROXIMATELY 7400 ZERO SQUARE FOOT RETAIL BUILDING THAT'S LABELED AS BURLINGTON HERE ON THE EXHIBIT. THE SUBJECT SITE IS OUTLINED IN YELLOW. YOU'LL SEE THAT IT SITS EAST OF THE TWIN RIVER CITY PARK. IT IS SOUTH OF A PLANET FITNESS AND O'REILLY AUTO PARTS AND THE COMMERCIAL SHOPPING CENTER TO THE NORTH AND THEN TO THE SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE IS A SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THEN TO THE EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE IS THE RAISING CANE'S DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANT AND A MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING THAT SERVE AS OUT PARCELS TO THIS PROPERTY. YOU'LL NOTICE WITH THE YELLOW OUTLINE OF THE PROPERTY, THIS IS KIND OF A FLAG SHAPED LOT, SO THEY HAVE JUST A LITTLE BIT OF FRONTAGE ALONG PLANO ROAD, BUT THEY'RE MAINLY SET BACK FROM PLANO ROAD.

HERE ARE PHOTOS OF THE SITE. SO THIS BUILDING WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1983. TODAY THERE'S A BURLINGTON COAT FACTORY. SO ON THESE PHOTOS YOU SEE THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING SEEN FROM THE EAST, THEN THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH ELEVATION WHERE THERE USED TO BE AN ENTRY, AND THEN THE WEST ELEVATION, WHICH FACES THE PARK TO THE EAST, TO THE WEST, TO THE EAST. HERE'S THE PROPOSED CONCEPT PLAN. THE SITE IS 6.7 ACRES. THE BUILDING IS 73,725FT■!S. THE PROPOSAL IS FOR THE BURLINGTON COAT FACTORY TO DOWNSIZE TO APPROXIMATELY HALF OF THE BUILDING, SO APPROXIMATELY 34,000FT■S, LEAVING 38,974FT■S VACANT. AND THEY HAVE PROPOSED THE NORTH

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SIDE OF THE BUILDING TO BE THE BURLINGTON AND THE SOUTH SIDE TO BE THE HEALTH STUDIO SHOWN IN YELLOW HERE. THE SITE HAS ONE MAIN POINT OF ACCESS THROUGH A DRIVE AISLE DRIVEWAY AT THE SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION OF PLANO ROAD THAT'S SHOWN IN THE PURPLE CIRCLE ON THE BOTTOM OF THE IMAGE. THEN THERE'S A SECONDARY POINT OF ACCESS TO THE PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH.

HERE IN THE OTHER PURPLE I HAVE HIGHLIGHTED AS PART OF THE PROPOSAL, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF SITE MODIFICATIONS. THEY ARE GOING TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL LIGHT IN THE SOUTHWEST PART OF THE PROPERTY, AS IN RESPONSE TO THE REQUEST FROM THE LOCAL NEIGHBORHOOD FOR ADDITIONAL SECURITY LIGHTING. ALSO, AS PART OF THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT IN THIS CONCEPT PLAN, THEY'RE GOING TO BE ADDING FOUR ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPE ISLANDS, AND THEY WILL BE PLANTING A CANOPY TREE IN EACH OF THOSE LANDSCAPE ISLANDS. THE SITE WILL PROVIDE 379 PARKING SPACES AND WILL PROVIDE A TOTAL LANDSCAPE AREA COVERAGE OF 7.1%. SOMETHING ELSE I'LL POINT OUT HERE ON THE PLAN IS SOME EXISTING LANDSCAPING OUT THERE AS AN EVERGREEN HEDGEROW THAT RUNS ALONG THE ENTIRETY OF THE NORTH PROPERTY LINE. ALSO ALONG THE SOUTH PROPERTY LINE IS AN EIGHT FOOT TALL MASONRY SCREENING WALL THAT SITS BETWEEN THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE SOUTH. AND HERE ARE THE PROPOSED BUILDING ELEVATIONS, WHERE YOU SEE THE NEW ENTRY FOR THE BURLINGTON ON THE RIGHT AND THE NEW ENTRY FOR A NEW USER, WHICH MAY POTENTIALLY BE A FITNESS CENTER. ON THE LEFT. HERE ARE MORE DETAILED BUILDING ELEVATIONS SHOWING THE SIDES OF THE BUILDING. AND THERE'LL JUST BE THOSE POINTS OF ENTRY ON THE EAST ELEVATION. AS PROPOSED. THE LOCAL RETAIL NUMBER TWO USES WILL BE ALLOWED BY RIGHT, EXCEPT FOR THOSE THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY LISTED AS PROHIBITED. THEY. THE PD WILL ALSO CONTINUE TO ALLOW LOCAL RETAIL ONE USES, AS IT DOES TODAY, DUE TO THE CUMULATIVE ZONING OF OUR ZONING ORDINANCE, THE BURLINGTON IS DOWNSIZING FROM APPROXIMATELY 74,000FT■S TO 34,000FT■!S. AND BY DOING SO, THEY ARE LOSING THEIR NONCONFORMING RIGHTS. SO HERE'S A BIT OF BACKGROUND INFORMATION. IN 2013, THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE WAS AMENDED SO THAT LARGE SCALE RETAIL STORES ARE REQUIRED TO GET A SPECIAL PERMIT. SO A LARGE SCALE RETAIL STORE IS 70,000FT■S OR MORE. GOING FORWARD, ANY LARGE RETAIL STORE THAT WANTS TO OCCUPY THE SPACE OF 70,000FT■S OR MORE AT THIS LOCATION WILL NEED TO GET APPROVAL OF A SPECIAL PERMIT.

SO IN ADDITION TO CHANGING TO THE LOCAL RETAIL TWO DESIGNATION, THE APPLICANT PROPERTY OWNER ALSO WANTED TO LIST SEVERAL PROHIBITED USES THAT THEY FELT WERE MAYBE TOO INTENSE FOR THE PROPERTY. SOME OF THESE USES DO REQUIRE SPECIAL APPROVAL BY SPECIAL PERMIT ANYWAYS. BY LISTING THEM AS A PROHIBITED USE, ANY FUTURE USERS WOULD BE PRECLUDED FROM EVEN MAKING A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL PERMIT FOR THESE TYPES OF USES. ALSO, SOME OF THESE USES ARE ARE ALLOWED BY RIGHT AND LOCAL RETAIL ONE SUCH AS CONVENIENCE STORE, BUT THEY ARE PROPOSING TO OUTRIGHT PROHIBIT THAT. SAME GOES FOR MOTOR VEHICLE PARTS AND ACCESSORY CELLS ARE TYPICALLY ALLOWED HERE AND THEY ARE PROHIBITING THAT GOING FORWARD. THE ALLOWED USES THAT THEY WILL GAIN INCLUDE HEALTH STUDIO, WHICH IS NOT ALLOWED BY RIGHT TODAY IN THE LOCAL RETAIL ONE ZONING DISTRICT. I'LL ALSO ADD THAT THEY ARE SEEKING TO SIGN A LEASE WITH A POTENTIAL HEALTH STUDIO AS A TENANT, BUT THEY ARE NOT LOCKED INTO THAT. AND THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DOES NOT LOCK THEM INTO THAT. THEY ARE STILL ALLOWED ANY USES THAT ARE ALLOWED UNDER THOSE ZONING DISTRICTS. HOWEVER, SOME OF THESE REQUESTS MAY BE SPECIFIC TO A HEALTH STUDIO, AND I'LL GET INTO THOSE HERE IN A MINUTE. MOST OF THESE ARE SPECIFIC TO THE PROPERTY, TO THE PROPERTY. SO I'LL GO OVER TO GO THROUGH THE SITE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT ARE PROPOSED. SO TODAY THE SITE IS UNDER SPECIAL CONDITIONS THAT WERE ADOPTED WHEN THE ZONING WAS ADOPTED IN 1982, WHEN THE SITE WAS FIRST DEVELOPED. AND THOSE ARE SPECIFIC TO SPACING FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE SOUTH AND SPECIFIC LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS THAT WERE ADDED TO THIS PROPERTY. WE HAVE WORKED WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER AND THE APPLICANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MAINTAIN THESE, SO THAT THOSE LANDSCAPE ELEMENTS ARE MAINTAINED ON THE SITE. SO THEY HAVE, AS I MENTIONED, THERE'S AN EVERGREEN HEDGEROW ALONG THE NORTH PROPERTY LINE. THERE IS AN EIGHT FOOT TALL MASONRY SCREENING WALL ALONG THE SOUTH PROPERTY LINE. THERE'S ALSO A ROW OF LIVE OAK TREES ALONG THE SOUTH PROPERTY LINE. SO THOSE WILL BE MAINTAINED. AND ALSO A BUILDING SETBACK REQUIREMENT OF 165FT FROM THAT SOUTH. PROPERTY

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LINE WILL ALSO BE MAINTAINED FOR THIS BUILDING AND ANY FUTURE BUILDING. IN ADDITION, THE APPLICANT AND PROPERTY OWNER ARE BRINGING THE SITE INTO LANDSCAPE COVERAGE COMPLIANCE BY PROVIDING 7.1% LANDSCAPE COVERAGE. THEY ARE ADDING THOSE FOUR NEW LANDSCAPE ISLANDS I MENTIONED TO INCREASE THAT COVERAGE. ADDITIONALLY, THEY'RE ADDING THAT LIGHT POLE I MENTIONED TO THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE PROPERTY, AND THEY ARE ALSO SEEKING A MODIFIED PARKING RATIO SPECIFIC TO A HEALTH STUDIO, BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE THE HEALTH STUDIO IS A LIKELY TENANT. THEY WANT TO GO AHEAD AND ADDRESS THIS IN THE PD, THEY DID PROVIDE A PARKING STUDY, WHICH DID SHOW THAT THE PARKING ON SITE APPEARS TO BE ADEQUATE, AND IT APPEARS TO MEET THE DEMAND THAT THEY ANTICIPATE AT THIS LOCATION FOR BOTH THE HEALTH STUDIO AND FOR A RETAIL STORE OF THIS SIZE. THEY BELIEVE THAT THE 379 PARKING SPACES ON SITE ARE ADEQUATE, AND THE PARKING STUDY APPEARS TO SUPPORT THAT. THE ENVISIONED RICHARDSON COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN IDENTIFIED THIS AS AN ENHANCEMENT AREA.

IT'S A BELTLINE PLANO ENHANCEMENT AREA. SO THIS IS AN AREA THAT HAS NOT DEFINED SPECIFIC PLACE TYPES YET, BUT MAY BE DEFINED IN A FUTURE AREA STUDY AT A FUTURE TIME AND A SMALL AREA. STUDY THIS ENVISION. THIS ENHANCEMENT AREA IS ENVISIONED AS A MIXED USE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVING RETAIL, OFFICE AND SERVICE USE AREA WITH NEW LOW INTENSITY RESIDENTIAL USES AND NEW COMMERCIAL USES THAT WOULD SERVE MORE THAN THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS. THE PRIMARY PLACE TYPES ENVISIONED INCLUDE NEIGHBORHOOD, MIXED USE, COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL AND NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICE. SECONDARY PLACE TYPES ENVISIONED INCLUDE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICE, NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE, AND COMPACT RESIDENTIAL, AND THE PROPOSED USES ARE CONSISTENT WITH THOSE PRIMARY PLACE TYPES THAT WERE ENVISIONED. THIS WAS A PUBLIC HEARING. WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY RESPONSE TO OUR NOTIFICATION TO THE PUBLIC.

SHOULD THE CPC RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST, THE MOTION WOULD INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING SPECIAL CONDITION THAT THE SITE SHALL BE ZONED WITH A PD WITH A BASE ZONING DISTRICT OF LRM2, AND SHALL BE DEVELOPED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CONCEPT PLAN AND THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS. AND ONE LAST THING I'LL POINT OUT IS, SINCE YOU RECEIVED YOUR STAFF REPORT LAST WEEK, WE HAVE ACTUALLY WORKED WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY TO REVISE SOME OF THE LANGUAGE IN EXHIBIT B, THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. WE WORKED WITH HIM TO WORK THROUGH SOME MORE DIFFERENT PHRASING, SOME DIFFERENT LEGALESE THAT HE PREFERRED HELPS WITH SOME OF THE ENFORCEABILITY OF THESE CONDITIONS. SO I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW NONE OF THE CONTENT HAS CHANGED, BUT WE DO HAVE AN UPDATED EXHIBIT AND THAT'S SITTING IN FRONT OF YOU.

AND THEN THEY'RE ALSO LISTED ON THE SCREEN HERE JUST TO MAKE YOU AWARE, THOSE WERE UPDATED.

AND THE APPLICANT ALSO HAS A PRESENTATION TONIGHT, BUT I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR ERICA COMMISSIONER SCHECK? THANK YOU. JUST A QUICK ONE FOR YOU. SO IS THE LANDSCAPING THAT'S CURRENTLY OUT OF COMPLIANCE? IS IT OUT OF COMPLIANCE WITH THE LRM1 OR IS IT OUT OF COMPLIANCE IN LOOKING AT LRM2, IT'S OUT OF COMPLIANCE WITH LRM1 EVENT, WHICH WOULD ALSO BE THE 7% CORRECT? IT IS AT 5.8% UNDER. AND DO WE KNOW IF WE HAVE. AND MAYBE THIS IS A BETTER QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. IS THIS NEW OWNERSHIP? HAS THIS BEEN OWNED FOR A WHILE AND FELL OUT OF COMPLIANCE? DID THEY INHERIT THAT? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. OKAY. THANK YOU. VICE CHAIRMAN THOMASON, CAN YOU GO TO THE OVERHEAD SHOT? QUESTION IS ABOUT THE TWIN RIVERS PARK. SO. IS TWIN RIVERS PARK. I'M GOING TO USE A PROBABLY A TERM THAT'S NOT EXACTLY RIGHT. IS IT A TRULY COMMISSIONED PARK OR DO WE JUST CALL IT A PARK? IT IS A COMMISSIONED PARK. OKAY. RECENTLY OPENED, NOT THAT MAYBE LAST YEAR. AND SO THEREFORE IT, YOU KNOW, THE WAY I REMEMBER THIS FROM MY PARKS COMMISSION DAYS IS ONCE IT'S A COMMISSIONED PARK, IT TAKES A REFERENDUM IN ORDER FOR IT TO NOT BE A PARK. SO IF THERE WAS A LOT ASSEMBLAGE GOING ON AT SOME POINT BETWEEN WHERE BURLINGTON IS TODAY AND THIS NICE OPEN SPOT, THAT'S A PARK, IT WOULD REQUIRE A WHOLE BUNCH OF PROCESS TO UNPARK IT. IF THAT'S EVEN A TERM. AM I THINKING ABOUT THAT? RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER KELLER. YEAH, I JUST HAD A QUESTION. I THOUGHT I HEARD YOU SAY EARLIER THAT THE THE HEALTH FITNESS STUDIO WASN'T ALLOWED BY RIGHT IN LOCAL RETAIL TO. IS THAT RIGHT? IT'S NOT ALLOWED BY. RIGHT. AND LOCAL RETAIL. ONE LOCAL. BUT IT IS ALLOWED BY RIGHT. AND LOCAL RETAIL. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. DID I SEE CORRECTLY THAT ONE OF THE ALLOWED USES IS AN ANTENNA. YES. THAT IS PRETTY. IS THAT ALREADY

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PART OF LOCAL RETAIL TOO? YES IT IS. OKAY. MOST OF OUR COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICTS ALLOW THAT AS LONG AS IT FOLLOWS ANTENNA STANDARDS WE HAVE SET. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I DIDN'T CHECK AND SEE IF IT'S A SPECIAL REQUEST. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.

WE'LL BRING THE APPLICANT FORWARD NOW. I'M SORRY. THANK YOU. CHAIR COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS MAXWELL FISHER WITH ZONE DEV. MY ADDRESS IS 2502 GRANDVIEW DRIVE, RICHARDSON, TEXAS, 75080, REPRESENTING SKUBAN SKUBAN, PLANO. THIS PARTICULAR SITE HAS BEEN OWNED BY THE CURRENT OWNER AND OWNER GOING FORWARD FOR SEVERAL YEARS. THE BURLINGTON LEASE IS IS COMING UP SOON. IT'S BEEN IT'S A 20 YEAR LEASE THAT ENDS IN 2026. THEY'RE CURRENTLY NOT EVEN USING THE ENTIRE BUILDING. SO IT'S THIS PROPERTY SCREAMS AND UNDER UTILIZATION. AND SO THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE THEY WOULD TAKE THE NORTHERN HALF. AND THEN OF COURSE THAT FREES OPEN THE SOUTHERN HALF FOR A FITNESS USER. THERE'S BEEN A NUMBER OF FITNESS USERS THAT ARE SCREAMING FOR THIS SITE. WE'VE HAD SEVERAL EMPLOYEES, INCLUDING THE ONE IN THE SUB AREA IN THE SUB MARKET INTERESTED IN TAKING THIS SPACE. AND SO WE BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT THE USE WILL BE. THIS PROPERTY SUFFERS EVEN THOUGH IT'S IT'S DEVELOPED WITH WITH A LARGE RETAIL ANCHOR, MORE OR LESS, IT SUFFERS FROM A LACK OF VISIBILITY. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT RELATIVE TO THE OTHER PROPERTIES, YOU CAN SEE THE FRONT DOOR HERE. YOU CAN SEE THE BUILDING IN THE BACK. IT'S FAIRLY OBSCURED WITH SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S HAPPENED IN FRONT OF IT, BUT IT'S ALSO BEHIND ALL THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S ON AT THE MAJOR INTERSECTION THERE. AND SO IT DOESN'T HAVE THE SAME ADVANTAGES THAT OTHER PROPERTIES DO THAT RELY ON IMPULSE PURCHASES. AND SO WE NEED A DESTINATION TYPE USE BACK HERE. WE GOT ONE BURLINGTON IS THAT TYPICALLY DON'T JUST PULL OVER AND BUY A COAT OR WHAT HAVE YOU. BUT BUT THE FITNESS ALSO, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING THERE ON PURPOSE. I MENTIONED MOST OF WHAT HERE. WHAT I'VE ALREADY MENTIONED IS THAT POOR VISIBILITY TUCKED AWAY. SO BURLINGTON'S DOWNSIZING THE LR TWO WORKS OUT REALLY WELL FOR US. IT WOULD ALLOW THE FITNESS BY BY RIGHT. AND THEN ENTERTAINMENT USE WOULD LIKELY WOULD BE ALLOWED BY, I BELIEVE SUP. SO IT WOULD DEPEND IF IF FITNESS DIDN'T WORK OUT AND MAYBE LIKE A BOUNCE HOUSE OR SOME SORT OF KIDS ENTERTAINMENT USE WOULD BE SORT OF A NICE BACKUP POTENTIAL THERE. AND WE'D ALSO, OF COURSE PROHIBIT CERTAIN USES. AS MENTIONED, WE WE'VE WORKED CLOSELY WITH GLEN PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITH SOME THINGS AND ALSO JUST SOME THINGS THE APPLICANTS WANTING TO DO WITH THE PROPERTY. WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THE NORTH AND SOUTH ACCESS POINTS. IT HAS THE OLD ACCESS POINTS. THOSE ARE JUST BIG TIME SECURITY ISSUES. WE WOULD BE CLOSING THOSE COMPLETELY ON THE NORTH AND SOUTH SIDE. SO THERE WOULD ONLY BE MAIN, YOU KNOW, CUSTOMER ENTRANCES ON THE ON THE EAST SIDE OR THE MAIN THE MAIN ENTRANCES. AS MENTIONED, WE'RE GOING TO INCREASE THE LANDSCAPING TO MEET THE CITY'S MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS. THIS WAS DEVELOPED SEVERAL YEARS AGO.

AND THEN IN WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORS, WE'RE ADDING FOUR CANOPY TREES, AS YOU SEE IN GREEN CIRCLES THERE, AND THEN SOME LANDSCAPE ISLANDS AND THEN ALSO A LIGHT POLE. THERE'S SOME LOITERING THAT GOES ON BECAUSE THE USE IS LARGELY QUIET AND DARK AT NIGHT. THERE ACTUALLY IS LOITERING GOES ON. AND SO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASKS FOR A LIGHT POLE AT THE BACK CORNER.

WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT. WE'RE GOING TO BE MAKING SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PROPERTY AS WELL. THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME ROOF WORK DONE. WE'RE GOING TO BE PAINTING THE BUILDING, IMPROVING THE THE ENTRANCES WITH SOME ADDITIONAL ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS ADDED.

AND WE'VE ALSO WE WOULD ALSO RESTRIPE SOME OF THE PARKING SPACES ON THE NORTH SIDE.

THEY'RE ANGLED TODAY. WHOEVER DEVELOPED THE SITE LOVES ANGLED PARKING. SO WE'RE KIND OF CONVERTING SOME OF THE ANGLED PARKING TO 90 DEGREE TO BE MORE EFFICIENT, AND THEN ALSO MOVING SOME OF THE ADA SPACES AROUND TO WHERE THEY SHOULD BE. THERE SHOULDN'T BE ON THE SIDE THAT SHOULD BE IN THE FRONT OR NEAR THE FRONT. THIS SHOWS YOU THE SOUTHERN PERIMETERHERE'S ACTUALLY A NUMBER OF MATURE TREES. WE'VE TRIED TO PLACE THE PROPOSED TREES IN SPACES THAT ARE DEVOID, OR WHERE IT MAKES SENSE TO PLACE THOSE. WE ARE ASKING FOR A PARKING REDUCTION FROM 1 TO 1, 50 TO 1 TO 100, BASED ON THE THE FEET TO FITNESS PEAK HOUR, WHICH IS MONDAY. TUESDAY EVENINGS, TYPICALLY RIGHT AFTER WORK, WE HAVE ABOUT 2 TO 220 200 TO 220 VISITORS. BURLINGTON PEAK HOUR IS ACTUALLY ON THE WEEKEND. AND SO WE HAVE IT'S A COMPLIMENTARY

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PEAK HOUR SITUATION. SO IT WOULDN'T SURPRISE ME IF THERE'S 80 TO 100 PARKING SPACES AT ANY EITHER PEAK HOUR ON THIS PROPERTY. SO WE THINK WE HAVE PLENTY OF PARKING THAT FAR EXCEEDS THE DEMAND. THESE ARE THE ELEVATIONS THAT WE TURNED IN ORIGINALLY. ABOUT AN HOUR BEFORE THE MEETING, I RECEIVED A MORE PERFECTED PLAN THAT'S COLORED BUT ALSO PROVIDES SOME ADDITIONAL ARCHITECTURAL DETAILS. BECAUSE THE TWO POTENTIAL USERS HAVE A DIFFERENT COLOR PALETTE THAT CAN ALMOST BE CONTRASTING THE ARCHITECTS TRYING TO CREATE AN ELEMENT TOWER IN THE MIDDLE THERE, AS YOU SEE, TO KIND OF CREATE A DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE TWO, THE THE TWO END USERS. SO I'LL, I'LL SUM UP, WE'D ASK YOU TO CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST. YOU KNOW, THERE'S A CURRENT INEFFICIENT USE OF THE BUILDING. THE LR TWO DISTRICT IN A PD WOULD BE MOST APPROPRIATE. IT WOULD ACCOMMODATE USES THAT WOULD BETTER ALIGN WITH THE MARKET, WHILE ALSO RESTRICTING USES THAT AREN'T NECESSARILY APPROPRIATE GIVEN THE ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. AND WE'RE. THE ZONING WOULD ALSO BE, YOU KNOW, CONTAINED OR WOULD BE CONNECTED TO MAKING SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS BOTH TO THE BUILDING AND TO THE SITE THAT MIGHT OTHERWISE NOT BE MADE. AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS OR. VICE CHAIRMAN THOMASON? I FEEL COMPELLED TO JUST ASK THE QUESTION ABOUT THE DEMAND ON FITNESS, JUST BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S A PLANET FITNESS RIGHT NEXT DOOR. THERE'S AN LA FITNESS ACROSS, I GUESS, CATTY CORNER AT THE INTERSECTION ON THE I GUESS IT'S THE NORTHEAST SIDE. NORTHEAST SIDE. AND I'M NOT A FITNESS PERSON. AND SO I SEE THIS AS AS JUST INTERESTING MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE. SURE.

YOU KNOW, I BELONG TO AN LA FITNESS AND I GO LIKE ONCE A YEAR. AND SO I GUESS THAT'S THE BUSINESS MODEL. I DON'T KNOW. DID THEY CALL AND REDUCE YOUR OR YOUR MONTHLY RATE LIKE THEY DID ME? I DIDN'T GO FOR A WHILE. AND THEY'RE LIKE, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU A REDUCTION BECAUSE WE DON'T. I SIGNED UP, JUST TO BE CLEAR, I SIGNED UP ON THE $10 PLAN. AND WHEN I WENT IN ONE TIME, I, THEY ASKED, I ASKED ABOUT, HEY, CAN I GO TO ANY LA FITNESS? AND THEY LOOK ME UP. NO, YOU CAN ONLY GO TO THIS ONE. AND HE'S LIKE, NEVER CANCEL THAT PLAN. IT WILL NEVER BE OFFERED AGAIN. AND I WAS LIKE, OKAY, WELL, I DON'T KNOW. I SHOULD CANCEL IT, RIGHT? BECAUSE I DON'T EVER GO. BUT IT JUST SEEMS LIKE TOO GOOD A DEAL. WELL, I GUESS THE QUESTION IS.

ARE REALLY AROUND JUST THE USAGE CASE. HELP, HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHY WE NEED MORE FITNESS THERE. EVEN IF THERE IS DEMAND, IT'S JUST I'M JUST TRYING TO DRAW THAT CONCLUSION FOR MYSELF. WELL, I MEAN, I WILL SAY THAT THE PEOPLE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE EXPERTS THAT KNOW, YOU KNOW, WILL SPEND THE MONEY TO, TO GO IN A LOCATION, THERE HAS TO BE THE DEMAND THERE. WHAT'S WHAT'S CRITICAL HERE IS THERE'S ONE OF THOSE, ONE OF THE FITNESS USERS, I'M TOLD IS GOING AWAY AND IT'S ON A SITE THAT'S BETTER SUITED. IT'S AT MAIN AND MAIN AND IT'S BETTER SUITED FOR SOMETHING ELSE. AND I'VE BEEN I'VE TALKED TO THE BROKER AND A BETTER USE WOULD BE POTENTIALLY GOING IN THERE. AND SO THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER FITNESS USER IN THIS PARTICULAR MARKET. I WON'T MENTION A NAME. THEY'RE NOT HAPPY WITH THEIR SPOT. THERE'S SOME CHALLENGES THERE. AND SO THEY'RE ALSO INTERESTED IN THIS SPOT OR SOMEWHERE ELSE POTENTIALLY. SO THE MARKET TYPICALLY HAS A WAY OF WORKING THESE THINGS OUT. AND SO HAVE APPROVING IT HERE ON A SITE THAT'S NOT REALLY GOOD FOR ANOTHER TYPE OF USE. IT WOULD POTENTIALLY OPEN UP. ONE OF THE OTHER FITNESS SPOTS WOULD EVENTUALLY GO DARK AND MAYBE A BETTER USE THAT THAT IS THAT NEEDS THAT VISIBILITY OR IS A, YOU KNOW, RESTAURANT GROCER.

ANOTHER USE THAT WOULD BE BETTER WOULD BETTER SERVE THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN A FITNESS FACILITY. SO HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION. YEAH, I MEAN, I IT'S STRONG DEMAND. I HADN'T THOUGHT ABOUT THE CAPITULATION OF ONE OF THE OTHERS. AND SO I COULD SEE HOW THAT, YOU KNOW, A BETTER LOCATION OR A BETTER FACILITY DOESN'T REALLY CHANGE THE DEMAND IN THE AREA. ADDING ANOTHER ONE IS WHY I WAS ASKING, WHICH I GUESS, YOU KNOW, THE MARKET WILL THE MARKET WILL DECIDE IF THERE'S ANOTHER ONE THAT IS THAT MAKES SENSE TO HAVE THERE. BUT IF IF YOU LOSE ONE AND YOU GAIN ONE, AND THIS ONE'S A BETTER SPOT, AND IT'S GOING TO BE MORE UPDATED THEN THAT, THAT MAKES SENSE. THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS, IS THAT THE LEASE, THE TENANT THAT'S IN WHAT I CALL FIRST PLACE RIGHT NOW OF, OF FITNESS USER IS A LITTLE HIGHER END THAN ANYTHING AROUND THERE RIGHT NOW. AND SO THEY'RE TRYING TO HIT A PARTICULAR NICHE GUESS JUST BASED ON THE, THE CLASSES AND SOME OF THE THINGS THEY'RE PROVIDING BESIDES JUST, YOU KNOW, LIFTING WEIGHTS AND RUNNING ON A TREADMILL. SO IT'S A LITTLE MORE SPECIALIZED USER THAN WHAT'S THERE TODAY. SO

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OKAY. THANK YOU. DID THE, HAS THE OWNER EVER LOOKED AT AN ALTERNATE USE SUCH AS TOWNHOME OR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT THERE? YEAH, I MEAN THAT THAT WAS POSED TO US. I MEAN, THAT IT THE ECONOMICS JUST DON'T MAKE SENSE FOR WHAT HE'S INVESTED IN THE PROPERTY AND WHAT HE PLANS ON INVESTING IN THE PROPERTY. I MEAN, YOU GO DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY WITH THE TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT COMPARED TO A BIG RETAILER. BURLINGTON ACTUALLY DOES FAIRLY WELL, BELIEVE IT OR NOT. WHEN YOU COMPARE IT TO OTHER BURLINGTON'S, IT ACTUALLY DOES DOES WELL. AND THEN JUST WITH ALL THE REDEVELOPMENT ACROSS THE STREET, THE OLD SEARS, IT'S SOMEWHAT TRIGGERING THE NOT NECESSARILY TRIGGERING THE TENANTS, TRIGGERING THIS, BUT HE'S THE OWNER IS DOING REALLY FOCUSING ON THE ESTHETICS OF IMPROVING THIS PROPERTY BECAUSE HE KNOWS THE RETAILERS ACROSS THE STREET. THERE'S, THERE'S THAT COMPETITIVE NATURE OF JUST MAKING SURE YOU'RE NOT THE WORST LOOKING PROPERTY IN THE AREA. RIGHT? SO THAT ALSO PLAYS A FACTOR HERE. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? ALL RIGHT. THANKS. WE'LL CALL YOU BACK UP AFTER.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. PUBLIC COMMENTS. SO THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. AND SO ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD NOW, EITHER IN FAVOR OR OPPOSITION TO THE REQUEST, NOW'S YOUR TIME. JUST YOU CAN COME UP TO THE LECTERN AND GIVE US YOUR COMMENTS. YEAH.

GO AHEAD. YES. JUST GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS WHEN YOU GET THERE. THANK YOU. I'M ANITA YOU, BUT I'M HERE FOR MY FRIEND WHO IS IN COLORADO AND SHE LIVES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO SHE ASKED ME TO READ HER LETTER TO YOU. ALL RIGHT. HER ADDRESS? HER HER NAME IS LINA CHAO. SHE LIVES IN 1325 MACKEY DRIVE IN RICHARDSON AND ZERO. I JUST READ THE NOTES THAT SHE GAVE ME.

THAT'S FINE. THANK YOU. OKAY. THE MAJORITY OF THE HOUSES IN GLENVILLE PARK WERE BUILT IN 1980. MANY OF THE HOMEOWNERS ARE NOW TURNED SENIORS. WE GOT THE NEWS THAT BURLINGTON STORE WILL BE DIVIDED INTO TWO PROPERTY OWNERS. ONE OF THEM WILL BE A GYM AND THE OTHER HALF WILL STILL BE THE BURLINGTON STORE. MY CONCERN IS OUR HOMES ADJACENT TO THE PROPOSED GYM ARE OCCUPIED BY MANY SENIOR RESIDENTS WHO GO TO BED EARLY. THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS BEEN QUIET FOR MANY YEARS UNDER THE EXISTING RETAIL USE. WE ARE CONCERNED THAT A GYM WITH EXTENDED OR 24 HOURS WOULD INTRODUCE LATE NIGHT PARKING LOT ACTIVITY, VEHICLE NOISE AND CONVERSATION CLOSE TO OUR HOUSE. THE RESIDENTIAL HOMES ARE SEPARATED FROM THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY BY A SEVEN FEET TALL WALL. THE BACK ALLEY IS ONLY ABOUT 50FT FROM OUR HOUSES. THE PARKING LOT ACTIVITY WOULD OCCUR MUCH CLOSER TO HOMES THAN THE PREVIOUS DEPARTMENT STORE USE, AND NIGHTTIME NOISE CAN HAVE A GREATER IMPACT BECAUSE THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS OTHERWISE QUIET. WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THE CITY REQUIRE REASONABLE OPERATING HOURS AND EFFECTIVE NOISE MITIGATION TO PROTECT THE QUIET ENJOYMENT OF THIS RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

THAT'S IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT, MR. FISHER? PERHAPS YOU CAN ADDRESS THAT COMMENT. WE WOULD, IF WE LIMITED THE HOURS, IT WOULD PUT US AT A COMPETITIVE DISADVANTAGE FROM A FITNESS STANDPOINT OR FITNESS USER. FROM A FITNESS STANDPOINT, WE DON'T WE BELIEVE THE THERE ISN'T THERE ISN'T AN ISSUE WITH HAVING THE FITNESS OPEN LATE HOURS BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THE USE. IT'S NOT A RESTAURANT WITH ALCOHOL. IT'S NOT A BAR.

IT'S NOT EVEN AN ENTERTAINMENT TYPE USE WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD POTENTIALLY HAVE LOITERING, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHEN THEY'RE TIRED, AFTER THEY WORK OUT, THEY JUST GO HOME.

BASICALLY. THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE PEOPLE LOITERING. THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A LOT OF NOISE.

IN FACT, IF ANYTHING, THE FACT THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ADDITIONAL PRESENCE THERE AND THE LIGHTING AND SOME OF THE UPGRADES, I WOULD THINK THAT YOU'RE GOING TO PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO BE LOITERING ON THE PROPERTY. SO IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BE SAFER IN THAT RESPECT. BUT YEAH, WE DEFINITELY IT, IT WOULD BE A DEAL BREAKER IF WE, IF WE WERE

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OF OUR HOURS ARE LIMITED. AND THAT'S BEEN A DIRECT STATEMENT BY, BY THE USE, BUT THE POTENTIAL USER. SO BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY MORE QUESTIONS. YEAH. WHAT ABOUT JUST STAFF FROM A LR TWO POINT OF VIEW? ARE THERE ANY HOURS LIMITATIONS ON ANY OF THE USES CURRENTLY IN THAT ZONING? NO, THERE'S NO HOURS. THERE'S NO LIMITED HOURS OF OPERATION FOR ANY USES IN THAT ZONING. NO. OKAY. IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE OTHER, I DID A LITTLE RESEARCH ON SOME OF THE OTHER FITNESS USERS. THERE'S SOME THAT ARE OPEN TILL MIDNIGHT OR LATER AND SOME CLOSED AT 11 P.M. AND SOME ARE OPEN 24 OVER SEVEN. AND SO WE DEFINITELY WANT TO KEEP KEEP THAT THOSE THOSE RIGHTS IF POSSIBLE. RIGHT. OKAY. A COMMENT, TINA. YEAH, I WAS JUST GOING TO ADD, WHILE I CAN RESPECT THE RESIDENT'S REQUEST FOR LIMITING HOURS, I JUST WANTED TO LET THE COMMISSION KNOW THAT SOMETIMES IT'S DIFFICULT FOR THE CITY TO BE PUT IN THAT POSITION TO REGULATING BUSINESS HOURS, BECAUSE THEN THERE'S AN EXPECTATION OF ENFORCEMENT WOULD OCCUR. AND, YOU KNOW, AFTER HOURS OR ON WEEKENDS PROBABLY IS TYPICALLY GOING TO FALL ON OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT. AND SO IT JUST, IT MAKES IT A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT FOR US TO BE ABLE TO REGULATE HOURS OF BUSINESSES. AND AS FAR AS NOISE ABATEMENT, THAT WAS THE OTHER COMMENT I HEARD IN THE LETTER FROM THE SPEAKER WAS CONCERN ABOUT NOISE. AND YEAH, YOU WANT TO JUST ADDRESS THAT? YEAH. I MEAN, THE ONLY THING I COULD THINK THAT WOULD MAKE NOISE WOULD BE LIKE A DELIVERY FOR BURLINGTON. BUT BURLINGTON'S ON THE NORTH SIDE. THE THE DOCK, THE LOADING DOCK IS ON THE FAR NORTH SIDE. AND IT EXISTS.

WE'RE NOT ADJUSTING OR MODIFYING IT. AND SO THE FITNESS USERS REALLY ALL INSIDE.

I MEAN, THERE'S NOT ANY SORT OF OUTSIDE NOISE OTHER THAN JUST CARS PULLING UP PARKING, WHICH IS REALLY NOT A WHOLE LOT DIFFERENT THAN, THAN NOW. NOT TO MENTION IN THE EVENING, LATE EVENING HOURS, CARS AREN'T GOING TO PARK UP AGAINST THAT SOUTHERN PROPERTY LINE. THEY'RE GOING TO PARK CLOSEST TO THE DOOR. SO THEY'RE GOING TO PARK IN THE FRONT. THEY'RE GOING TO BE PARKED WHERE, YOU KNOW, CLOSE TO THE FRONT DOOR. SO THAT WHOLE SOUTHERN PERIMETER WOULD LIKELY JUST BE EMPTY. AND LATE IN THE EVENINGS AS IT IS TODAY, WHEN YOU HAVE, WHAT IS IT, AN EIGHT FOOT MASONRY WALL ALONG THE SOUTH PROPERTY LINE, IS THAT CORRECT? YES. THAT'S CORRECT. AND YOU'VE GOT A SETBACK OF 165FT, I THINK I RECALL. YES. WHICH IS MUCH GREATER THAN WHAT'S ACTUALLY REQUIRED. RIGHT. WHAT'S ACTUALLY REQUIRED IS 46FT TYPICALLY, RIGHT. SO. MR. QUIRK AND I THINK THEY'RE ADDING A FEW MORE TREES ALONG THAT SAME WALL THERE TOO, WHICH ARE AGAIN, WOULD CUT DOWN ON THE NOISE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. TINA, IF I COULD JUST ADD ONE ADDITIONAL THING. THE CITY DOES HAVE NOISE ORDINANCES. AND SO IN THE EVENT THERE WAS A NOISE DISTURBANCE, THE RESIDENTS COULD CONTACT THE CITY AND WE COULD COME OUT AND INVESTIGATE IT. USUALLY, I BELIEVE THAT COMPLAINT WOULD BE A NON-EMERGENCY CALL TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT WE DO HAVE THE NOISE ORDINANCES IN EFFECT, TO BE ABLE TO HELP WITH REGULATING ANY CONCERNS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. RIGHT. AND YOU CAN ACTUALLY DO TESTING, NOISE TESTING. WE CAN DO THAT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MISS FISHER. ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, I'D MAKE A MOTION. WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

COMMISSIONER BEACH SECOND, A MOTION AND A SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. ALL IN FAVOR. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WELL, OVERALL, I THINK I THINK MY BIGGEST CONCERN ON THIS WAS JUST, YOU KNOW, ARE WE SORT OF OPENING BY OPENING THE DOOR ON THE HEALTH, THE FITNESS THAT WE'RE KIND OF SOMEBODY ANOTHER PROPERTY OWNER IS GOING TO SUFFER IN THAT THAT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD BY LOSING THEIR THEIR FITNESS CENTER. BUT I THINK THAT'S KIND OF THAT'S, THAT'S A FREEDOM OF OUR DEMOCRACY. AND, YOU KNOW, YOU GO WHERE YOU, YOU CAN GET THE BEST DEAL FOR THE BEST PROPERTY, I THINK. SO I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK IT'S OUR PLACE. I THINK IT'S JUST LOOKING AT IT FROM A YOUTH STANDPOINT. I ACTUALLY HAD A BURLINGTON STORE.

ONE OF THE PROPERTIES I MANAGED AT WEBB CHAPEL AND LBJ. AND THEY IT WAS THE SAME THING. IT WAS ABOUT 75,000FT■S. THEY'VE BEEN THERE ABOUT 20 YEARS. AND WHEN THE LEASE WAS UP, THEY

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WANTED TO CUT IN HALF THAT. THAT'S JUST KIND OF BEEN THEIR MODEL, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, THE DEMAND FOR THEIR TYPES OF STORES, HOW THEY LAY THEM OUT IS DIFFERENT THAN IT WAS 20 YEARS AGO. SO I'VE DEFINITELY SEEN THAT TREND WITH BURLINGTON TO, TO DOWNSIZE SEEMS TO BE THAT THERE'S STILL A MARKET THERE AND DEMAND, I MEAN, WHEN I WENT THERE, PARKING LOT, YOU KNOW, QUITE A FEW CARS AND PEOPLE GOING IN AND OUT. SO IT'S GOOD TO SEE THAT THEY'RE STILL GENERATING SALES. BUT I DO THINK IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A GREAT TOWNHOME REDEVELOPMENT.

BUT THAT'S NOT IN FRONT OF US TONIGHT. I THINK WITH THAT, THE PARK BEHIND THERE TO THE WEST, THERE WAS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO REVITALIZE THAT. SO BUT I UNDERSTAND IF YOU'VE INVESTED AND PAID A LOT OF MONEY FOR A BUILDING INVESTED IN A BUILDING SUCH AS THAT, AND YOU'VE GOT A TENANT IN HAND THAT'S WILLING TO COMMIT, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO, TO GO DOWN THAT ROAD OF COMPLETELY CHANGING THE USE AND KNOCKING DOWN A BUILDING THAT'S POTENTIALLY INCOME PRODUCING. SO, BUT OTHERWISE, I'M IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST. COMMISSIONER SHEK.

YEAH, I LIKE THIS. I LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE HAVE BEEN ANXIOUSLY AWAITING THE REVITALIZATION OF EVERYTHING ON THIS CORNER. SO VERY HAPPY TO SEE THIS COMING IN. I APPRECIATE THAT THE APPLICANT VISITED WITH THE HOA. I APPRECIATE SOME OF THE EXCLUSIONS, WHICH HAVE BEEN SOME HOT TOPICS FOR US OVER THE LAST CASES THAT WE'VE HAD. I WAS A LITTLE BIT INITIALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE LIMITATION ON PARKING, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE IF THAT'S WHERE THE DEMAND IS, THEN THAT WILL SHAKE ITSELF OUT IN THE END. SO I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS AND WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ZONING FILE 2615 AS PRESENTED. SECOND COMMISSIONER, YOU GOT A SECOND? I'M GOING TO GO TO COMMISSIONER. VICE CHAIRMAN THOMPSON. YEAH, JUST A LITTLE, LITTLE DISCUSSION FIRST, AND I SUPPORT IT. BUT I DID WANT TO SORT OF HAVE ON RECORD THAT I, I HEARD I HEARD THE RESIDENT THAT CAME UP. AND I THINK PART OF THE CHALLENGE THAT WE HAVE WHEN WE HAVE. UNDERUTILIZATION, THERE'S A QUIET ENJOYMENT THAT COMES WITH UNDERUTILIZATION. AND WHILE THE NEIGHBORHOOD MAY BE GETTING OLDER OR WHATEVER AND GOING TO BED LATER, THAT'S PROBABLY TRUE. IT'S THE QUIET ENJOYMENT IS SORT OF THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR ON ECONOMIC ACTIVITY. AND SO THOSE THINGS ARE IN CONFLICT. AND SO THEY'RE ALWAYS IN CONFLICT FOR US POTENTIALLY ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS. AND SO WHENEVER I'M THINKING ABOUT THE LIKELY USAGE CASE AND WHAT OTHER USAGE CASES COULD BE, I THINK ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR USAGE CASE BEING ABOUT AS GOOD AS YOU COULD GET ON A QUIET ENJOYMENT WHILE WE'RE STIMULATING IT WITH THE ONLY THING THAT I CAN REALLY THINK OF BEING CAR DOORS OPENING AND SHUTTING BECAUSE THERE'S SOME LATE NIGHT PPLE WORKING OUT. AND TO ME, THAT IS NOT ENOUGH TO SORT OF DISSUADE ME TO SAY, YEAH, THIS IS A GOOD IDEA. SO I'LL SUPPORT IT AS WELL. COMMISSIONER, DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER COMMENT OR NO. NO APOLOGIES. ALL RIGHT. WELL, WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE ZONING FILE AS PRESENTED WITH THE SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER BEACH. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? YEAH, THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. GOOD LUCK. THANK

[3. Staff report on pending development, zoning permits, and planning matters.]

YOU FOR BEING HERE. WE CAN NOW GO ON TO THE LAST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA. THIS STAFF REPORT ON PENDING DEVELOPMENT, ZONING PERMITS AND PLANNING MATTERS. THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE REGARDING CITY COUNCIL'S RECENT ACTION ON SOME ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT CASES THAT THE COMMISSION HAD ALSO CONSIDERED. SO BACK ON THE JULY 27TH, THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED GERMAN MOTOR WORKS. THE. THE AMENDMENTS TO THE MAIN STREET CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY FORM BASED CODE, AS WELL AS 500 NORTH INTERURBAN. THAT WAS THE INTERURBAN DESIGN DISTRICT CASE WITH RESPECT TO THE MAIN STREET CENTRAL CASE. THEY APPROVED IT AS PRESENTED. HOWEVER, THEY DID REQUEST THAT WE ADD SOME LANGUAGE TO THE CODE THAT ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THE ACCESSORY BUILDINGS, THE SITING OF THEM NEED TO BE APPROVED BY THE CITY MANAGER OR DESIGNEE. SO WE. IT WAS JUST A MINOR AMENDMENT THAT WE INCLUDED. AND THEN ALSO, AS IT RELATES TO 500 NORTH INTERURBAN. I KNOW THERE WAS MUCH DISCUSSION REGARDING THE PARKING ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, AND SO WANTED TO TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THE APPLICANT ACTUALLY MODIFIED THEIR PLAN TO ADD TEN ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES, PARTICULARLY WITHIN THAT ENCLOSED STORAGE AREA, IF YOU RECALL THAT. AND SO THEY WERE ABLE TO ADD TEN ADDITIONAL SPACES, FIVE SPACES CLOSER TO BUILDING ONE FIVE, CLOSER TO BUILDING SIX. AND THEN ALSO, THEY DID PROVIDE A PLAN FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY THAT WE INCLUDED IN THE PACKET THAT ILLUSTRATED WHERE THEY COULD ACTUALLY PROVIDE 83 PARKING SPACES ON THAT SITE, BUT THAT COMES WITH A TRADE OFF,

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RIGHT? LIMITED USE OF OVERHEAD DOORS, LIMITED OUTDOOR STORAGE AREAS. SO WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THEY THEY HEARD THE COMMISSION'S CONCERNS AND TOOK YOUR COMMENTS TO, TO HEART AND WORKED ON BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL PARKING ON THAT SITE. IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN SEEING THOSE DOCUMENTS, THEY'RE INCLUDED IN THE COUNCIL PACKET MATERIALS FROM THE FROM THAT MEETING AS IT RELATES TO YOUR UPCOMING MEETINGS. SO YOUR NEXT MEETING WOULD THAT IS SCHEDULED IS TUESDAY, AUGUST 18TH. WE HAVE NO CASES THAT ARE PENDING FOR THAT MEETING. SO I WOULD EXPECT THAT MEETING TO BE CANCELED. SO YOU CAN HAVE THAT THAT EVENING. BACK TO YOURSELVES, LOOKING FARTHER AHEAD THAN YOUR NEXT MEETING WOULD BE SEPTEMBER 1ST, WHICH IS RIGHT BEFORE THE LABOR DAY HOLIDAY. IT APPEARS RIGHT NOW, AT THIS TIME, WE DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING TRACKING FOR THAT MEETING EITHER, BUT WE'LL MONITOR THAT. SO DON'T MAKE PLANS COMPLETELY TO NOT BE WITH US ON SEPTEMBER 1ST, BUT GIVE US A CHANCE JUST IN CASE SOMETHING COMES UP WHERE WE WOULD NEED TO SCHEDULE AN ITEM FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. BUT RIGHT NOW, IT'S KIND OF LOOKING LIKE YOU MAY NOT HAVE A MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 1ST. SO IN MY APOLOGIES, I FAILED TO LOOK AT THE NEXT DATE, BUT THAT WOULD PUT YOU IN ABOUT MID SEPTEMBER, SO WE'LL KEEP YOU INFORMED. OBVIOUSLY, YOU'LL GET EMAIL NOTIFICATIONS FROM AJ WHEN WHEN WE'RE CANCELING THOSE MEETINGS, BUT JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A HEADS UP ON THAT. SO AND THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE THEN THIS MEETING IS ADJ

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