Aug 10, 2026 City Council

[CALL TO ORDER]

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RICHARDSON CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER AT 6 P.M. AT THIS TIME, I'LL ASK COUNCIL MEMBER SHAMSUL ARIFEEN TO LEAD US IN THE INVOCATION AND PLEDGE. PLEASE JOIN ME FOR THE PRAYER. DEAR GOD, THE MOST GRACIOUS AND MOST MERCIFUL, WE THANK YOU FOR THE BLESSINGS OF THIS DAY AND FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY. GRANT US WISDOM IN OUR DECISIONS, COMPASSION IN OUR ACTIONS, AND UNITY IN OUR PURPOSE. PROTECT OUR CITY. BLESS OUR FAMILIES AND NEIGHBORS, AND GUIDE US TO LEAD WITH FAIRNESS, HUMILITY, AND RESPECT. BRING FAMILIES CLOSER TOGETHER. FILL OUR HEARTS WITH LOVE, UNDERSTANDING, AND CARE FOR ONE ANOTHER. GRANT PEACE AND WARMTH IN THE HEARTS OF PARENTS AND CHILDREN. WHEN THEY SEE AND EMBRACE EACH OTHER.

DEAR GOD, HELP US BECOME BETTER AND MORE EFFECTIVE COMMUNICATORS TO LISTEN WITH PATIENCE, SPEAK WITH KINDNESS, AND UNDERSTANDNE ANOTHER WITH OPEN HEARTS. DEAR ALMIGHTY, HEAL THE SICK. COMFORT THOSE WHO ARE SUFFERING AND GIVE STRENGTH AND HOPE TO THOSE FACING HARDSHIP. MAY ALL THAT WE DO BRING PEACE, UNDERSTANDING AND GOODNESS TO THOSE WE SERVE. AMEN. AMEN. NOW I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. NOW, THE TEXAS FLAG. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE.

TEXAS. ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. AT THIS TIME, WE'LL MOVE

[3. PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS AND VISITORS FORUM]

THANK YOU. MAYOR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL. WE ARE IN RECEIPT OF SEVERAL CARDS IN ADVANCE OF THE 4 P.M. DEADLINE. I'M GOING TO ACKNOWLEDGE THOSE AND THEN SUBSEQUENTLY, I'LL READ THE INSTRUCTIONS FOR ANYONE WISHING TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENTS OR VISITORS COMMENTS. SO CARDS RECEIVED IN ADVANCE OF THE 4 P.M. DEADLINE. MISS JIMMY BONILLA, 522 EAST SPRING VALLEY ROAD. THE TOPIC MAYOR AND COUNCIL FOR ALL OF THESE ARE FLOCK CAMERAS. THE POSITION IS AGAINST MISS AGAIN JAMIE DE GUZMAN, 411 BROOKLYN DRIVE AGAIN POSITION IS AGAINST KATIE GILROY. 731 PLEASANT VALLEY AGAINST JACE ELLISON, 2128. POPPY LANE AGAINST MARK BASTIAN, 700 SCOTTSDALE DRIVE. NEUTRAL JULIE LEARY, 1705 YORKSHIRE DRIVE. NEUTRAL. GRANT RAINWATER, 212. PAULINE DRIVE AGAINST AND THEN DANIEL DICKERSON, 4520 SOUTH POINT DRIVE AGAINST. LET ME ASSURE ALL OF THE RESIDENTS THAT SUBMITTED CARDS THAT THE COUNCIL HAS RECEIVED A FULL COPY OF YOUR YOUR COMMENTS AND HAS THOSE FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION. I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MISS NEMER IN JUST A SECOND. AFTER I READ INSTRUCTIONS. DURING THIS PORTION OF THE COUNCIL MEETING, 30 MINUTES IS ALLOCATED FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO PROVIDE COMMENTS TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON AGENDA ITEMS. IF YOU ARE HERE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT, PLEASE WAIT UNTIL THAT PUBLIC HEARING IS OPENED. IF THERE'S TIME LEFT DURING THE DURATION, DURING THE INITIAL 30 MINUTES ALLOCATED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, THE REMAINING TIME WILL BE PROVIDED AS A VISITOR'S FORUM OPEN TO ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ANY TOPIC IN WHICH THE SUBJECT MATTER IS WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE CITY. IF THE FULL 30 MINUTES ALLOCATED FOR PUBLIC COMMENT IS REACHED, THEN SPEAKERS WHO HAVE SUBMITTED A PUBLIC COMMENT CARD MAY SPEAK AT THE VISITORS FORUM SCHEDULED AT THE END OF THE MEETING. ALL SPEAKERS SHOULD COMPLETE A CARD AND SUBMIT IT TO THE CITY SECRETARY. SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER THEY ARE RECEIVED. WHEN YOUR NAME IS CALLED, PLEASE STEP TO THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, ALL SPEAKERS WILL BE LIMITED TO A MAXIMUM OF FIVE MINUTES AS INDICATED BY THE TIMER. WHEN THE TIMER BEEPS, THE SPEAKER SHOULD CONCLUDE THEIR COMMENTS PROMPTLY. SPEAKERS MUST NOT PHYSICALLY APPROACH MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL OR STAFF, AND SHOULD REMAIN AT THE PODIUM DURING THEIR COMMENTS. SPEAKERS WITH HANDOUTS MUST PROVIDE THEM TO THE CITY SECRETARY FOR DISTRIBUTION. SPEAKERS SUBMITTING COMMENTS ON THE SAME TOPIC ARE ENCOURAGED TO REDUCE REPETITIVE REMARKS BY INDICATING THEIR COMMENTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN ADDRESSED OR BY SELECTING A REPRESENTATIVE SPEAKER. THE TEXAS OPEN MEETING ACT PROHIBITS THE COUNCIL FROM DISCUSSING OR TAKING ACTION ON ITEMS THAT ARE NOT POSTED ON THE AGENDA. THE CITY COUNCIL AND STAFF WILL NOT AFFIRM OR OPPOSE ANY SPEAKER, COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS. THE MAYOR OR CITY MANAGER MAY RESPOND WITH FACTS OF POLICY OR DIRECT CITY STAFF TO RESPOND TO THE SPEAKER. AFTER THE MEETING, THE AUDIENCE IS ASKED TO REFRAIN FROM APPLAUDING OR OTHER EXPRESSIONS OF SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION. A COPY OF THE COUNCIL RULES OF ORDER AND PROCEDURE, AND THESE GUIDELINES MAY BE FOUND ON THE

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I HIGHLY RECOMMEND CHECKING OUT SLIDE FOUR, WHICH SAYS, QUOTE, DON'T AVOID THE CONCEPT OF MASS SURVEILLANCE BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO CONVINCE OPPONENTS THAT IT'S NOT, END QUOTE. THEY ENCOURAGE LAW ENFORCEMENT TO SHIFT THE NARRATIVE FOR FROM SURVEILLANCE TO GOVERNANCE, BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEY WON'T WIN THAT ARGUMENT BECAUSE IT IS MASS SURVEILLANCE. LAST TIME I SPOKE, THERE WERE 80 CITIES TERMINATING AND REJECTING FLOCK SAFETY CONTRACTS. THAT NUMBER IS NOW UP TO 100. RICHARDSON NEEDS TO JOIN THE LIST. I'M REQUESTING THE COUNCIL TAKE THE FOLLOWING ACTION IMMEDIATELY. HALT ANY NEW FLOCK SAFETY CAMERA INSTALLATIONS IN RICHARDSON. REMOVE ALL EXISTING FLOCK CAMERAS CURRENTLY OPERATING IN THE CITY. REFUSE TO ENTER INTO ANY FUTURE CONTRACT WITH FLOCK SAFETY OR ANY COMPARABLE MASS

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BRIAN BRISTOW. HI. I'M HERE TO SPEAK. ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF STR. IS THAT NOT APPROPRIATE TO INTERJECT? YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO SPEAK ABOUT ANYTHING. IS THAT OKAY? OKAY. IF YOU'LL JUST START WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU CAN START YOUR SPEAKING. ABSOLUTELY. I'M BRIAN BRISTOW, I RESIDE AT 1415 BALTIMORE DRIVE, RICHARDSON, TEXAS, 75081. I REALIZE IF THIS IS A TRAIN, I'M IN THE CABOOSE AND I'M CATCHING UP WITH THINGS. ACTUALLY, I'VE LIVED IN MY WIFE AND I SHOULD SAY I'VE LIVED IN THE BURTNER PARK AREA, PLACE ONE SINCE 1997. AND I'VE NOTICED NOW, AFTER A COMMUNITY IMPACT MAGAZINE CAME OUT, THAT MY PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF SHORT TERM RENTALS IN THE CITY. AND SO IT NATURALLY BRINGS TO MIND SOME CONCERNS THAT I JUST WANTED TO SHARE VERY BRIEFLY HERE. I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON ON RENTAL HOMES, BUT I HAVE BEEN A LANDLORD BEFORE IN PREVIOUS LIFE IN SAN ANTONIO. I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO HAVE GOOD TENANTS AND WHAT IT'S LIKE TO HAVE BAD TENANTS IN RENTAL PROPERTIES. I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO TAKE A LOSS ON A HOUSE SELLING IT, BECAUSE THE LAST TENANT THAT'S IN THAT HOUSE DID NOT TAKE CARE OF IT. SO I DO SPEAK WITH SOME EXPERIENCE ON THE ISSUE OF RENTAL PROPERTIES, HOUSES IN PARTICULAR. LIKE I SAID, I WAS MOTIVATED BY THE COMMUNITY IMPACT PERIODICAL TO BE HERE TONIGHT. I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE 170 STR SHORT TERM RENTALS IN RICHARDSON CURRENTLY. I WANT TO TOUCH BRIEFLY ON A FEW AREAS OF CONCERN. ONE IS CLUSTERING, WHICH WAS MENTIONED IN THE PRESENTATION ON THE 26TH, I THINK OF OF JULY. AND I'M ENCOURAGED TO SEE THAT THERE'S ONLY FOUR OF THOSE EXAMPLES OF CLUSTERING WHERE THERE'S MORE THAN ONE, THERE'S TWO OR MORE RENTAL FACILITIES OR HOUSES IN A NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE'S FOUR OF THOSE IN BIRCKNER PARK AT THE SAME TIME. IT DOES BRING TO MIND CONCERN. I DID A BRIEF PERSONAL STUDY ON BIRCKNER PARK, MY NEIGHBORHOOD, TO DETERMINE, OKAY, IF THESE HOUSES ARE BROUGHT IN OR ALLOWED TO ESTABLISH STRS AT A MINIMUM SPACING OF 500FT, WHICH I BELIEVE IS WHAT IS THE LAS BEEN DISCUSSED. BURTNER PARK HAS THE CARRYING CAPACITY FOR ABOUT 44 OF THOSE. IF IT WERE TO GO STRICTLY BY THAT 500 FOOT STANDARD. NOW, THERE ALREADY ARE SOME IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, OF COURSE. 29 I SAID MY QUESTION THAT I'M NOT ASKING FOR AN ANSWER TO TONIGHT, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO TALK TO STAFF AND FOLLOW UP DISCUSSIONS IS HOW WILL THE STANDARD MAXIMUM. HOW WILL THE MAXIMUM IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND OTHERS BE ESTABLISHED, GIVEN THAT THERE ARE ALREADY NON-COMPLYING RENTAL UNITS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WILL IT BE ADHERING TO THE 500 FOOT SPACING OR SOMETHING ELSE IN THE JULY 27TH EXCUSE ME PRESENTATION, IT WAS STATED THAT CLUSTERING IS THE POINT AT WHICH THE CONCENTRATION OF SHORT TERM RENTALS BEGINS TO ALTER THE RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER OF A NEIGHBORHOOD OR AN AREA. I WOULD SAY THAT WHILE THAT IS OR MAY BE TRUE, A HOMEOWNER WHO CARES ABOUT. AS A HOMEOWNER WHO CARES ABOUT NEIGHBORHOOD ESTHETIC, I WOULD ADD THAT THE QUANTITY OF STRS ALSO HAS A A IMPACT ON THE RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER OF AN AREA. AS A HOMEOWNER, I WOULD OF COURSE LIKE TO PREFER THAT STARS ARE. ARE THE MINORITY, NOT THE MAXIMUM IN ANY GIVEN NEIGHBORHOOD. MY FINAL TOPIC IS THE STR BUSINESS AND MARKET.

STRS APPEAR TO BE A PRETTY LUCRATIVE MARKET. THERE ARE A LOT OF TAX DEDUCTIONS AND DEPRECIATIONS THAT CAN BE TAKEN FOR OWNERS OF THOSE, ESPECIALLY IN OUR. BASICALLY NESTED IN WITH A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. THESE ARE BUSINESSES, OF COURSE, AS OTHER CITIZENS HAVE MADE KNOWN, THEY DO GENERATE HOTEL AND MOTEL TAX. ACCORDING TO WHAT I'VE READ AND UNDERSTAND.

AND OF COURSE, THOSE TAXES CANNOT BE USED TO PUT BACK INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS OR BENEFIT THEM. ALSO, BEING A DARK COMMUNITY, THE ONE HALF CENT SALES TAX UNDER THE TEXAS DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION ACT, THOSE FOR B AND FOR A TAX DOLLARS MUST GO TO COMMUNITY IMPROVEMENTS, DEVELOPMENT OR ECONOMY. THEY CANNOT BE POURED BACK INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS. SO

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OUTSIDE THAT ITSELF. ALL OF THIS IS COMPOUNDED BY THE GROWING INFLUX OF RENTAL PROPERTIES THAT OVER TIME, CAN, AND IN MANY CASES, HAVE A DETRIMENTAL EFFECT ON NICE NEIGHBORHOODS, PARTICULARLY THE ESTHETIC. AT THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEETING, IT WAS STATED THAT STR MARKET CHANGES FREQUENTLY. MR. BRISTOW, IF YOU'LL WRAP UP YOUR COMMENTS IN THE NEXT FEW SECONDS, I GET IT. BEFORE BUTTONING THIS UP, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ASK THAT STAFF AND CITY COUNCIL DISCUSS AMONG THEMSELVES A A LOOK AT OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE BEEN DOWN THE ROAD FARTHER THAN US TO SEE WHAT THE LONG TERM EFFECT ON PROPERTY VALUES ARE WHEN WE HAVE AN INFLUX OF STRS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, MR. BRISTOW. ELLEN BEAMER.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS ELLEN BEAMER. I LIVE AT 1802 MEADOW COVE DRIVE IN RICHARDSON, 75081.

I'M HERE THIS EVENING TO SPEAK ABOUT STRS AND TO SAY THANK YOU. MY NEIGHBORS AND I ARE GRATEFUL THAT YOU HEARD US WHEN WE WERE HERE IN MARCH, AND YOU HAVE BEGUN TO GET A HANDLE ON THE PROLIFERATION OF STARS IN RICHARDSON AND TO TAKE ACTION TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE HERE, AND ESPECIALLY IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH, AS YOU REMEMBER, HAS FOUR OF THEM, ALL WITHIN 750FT OF EACH OTHER. MY HUSBAND AND I THINK THE CITY COUNCIL HAS MADE A REASONABLE START STILL TO CONSIDER OUR LIMITING THE AGE OF PEOPLE WHO CAN LEASE AN SDR TO 21. THERE'S ONE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT LEASES TO EIGHT YEAR OLDS, LIMITING THE CAPACITY OF STRS, THE SAME HOUSE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD ADVERTISES ROOM FOR 20 PLUS PEOPLE. NO REGULAR HOUSE HAS ROOM FOR 20 PEOPLE. KEEP CONSIDERING BANNING FROM STARS FROM RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.

I KNOW IT'S COMPLICATED. RAISE THE REGISTRATION FEES. SO THE COST OF IN-PERSON INSPECTIONS OF THESE PROPERTIES IS COVERED THIS WAY. PEOPLE WON'T MAKE ILLEGAL GARAGE CONVERSIONS OR ADD BEDROOMS WITHOUT BUILDING PERMITS. THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU HAVE ALREADY DONE AND YOUR MINDSET IN SUPPORTING THOSE OF US WITH ROOTS IN RICHARDSON. SO OUR COMMUNITY WILL CONTINUE TO BUILD HOME VALUE AND QUALITY NEIGHBORHOODS. THANK YOU, MISS BEAMER. PATRICK. BRINY. CAN I HEAR YOU? PATRICK? PATRICK. BRINY. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS PATRICK BRINY. I'M A RICHARDSON RESIDENT. I LIVE AT 4205. AUGUSTA DRIVE. EXCUSE ME. LET ME RESTATE THAT. I LIVE AT 2604 RIDGE BYER PLACE, RICHARDSON, TEXAS, 75080. I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT FLOCK CAMERAS TONIGHT.

I'VE BEEN IN INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY DIRECTOR FOR OVER 35 YEARS, EVALUATING SECURITY RISKS, DATA GOVERNANCE, ACCESS CONTROLS, AND RESPONSIBLE OVERSIGHT. MY PURPOSE IS NOT TO CRITICIZE THE COUNCIL OR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. I BELIEVE TOOLS LIKE FLOCK WERE ADOPTED WITH PUBLIC SAFETY IN MIND. RESPONSIBLE GOVERNMENT REQUIRES ONGOING REVIEW WHEN TECHNOLOGY AFFECTS PRIVACY, PUBLIC TRUST, POLICE WORKLOAD AND CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS. OVER THE PAST MONTH, I'VE SHARED REPORTS AND CASE STUDIES WITH COUNCILMAN JOE COCHRAN, OUTLINING THREE MAIN CONCERNS TRANSPARENCY AND PUBLIC ACCOUNTABILITY, POTENTIAL MISUSE AND ABUSE OF SURVEILLANCE SYSTEMS, PRIVACY AND AMENDMENT CONCERNS. THESE

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I KNEW I WAS INNOCENT, BUT THE SYSTEM SAID OTHERWISE. THAT EXPERIENCE IS WHY I BELIEVE SYSTEMS THAT COLLECT, STORE, SEARCH OR SHARE INFORMATION ABOUT RESIDENTS MUST BE HELD TO A HIGH STANDARD. EVERY TECHNOLOGY SOLUTION INVOLVES TRADE OFFS. THE QUESTION IS WHETHER THOSE TRADE OFFS ARE BEING FULLY MEASURED, OPENLY DISCUSSED AND PROPERLY MONITORED. I HAVE SUBMITTED PUBLIC INFORMATION REQUESTS ABOUT THE CITY'S USE OF TRAINING OVERSIGHT, AUDITING DATA SHARING PRACTICES REGARDING FLOC. SO FAR, THE RESPONSES HAVE BEEN SLOW, UNCLEAR, AND DIFFICULT TO OBTAIN. ONE OF MY BIGGEST CONCERNS IS DATA SHARING. WE ARE TOLD RICHARDSON RETAINS FLOCK FOR 30 DAYS, BUT RETENTION AND SHARING ARE NOT THE SAME THING. IN FACT, RICHARDSON DELETES THE FACT RICHARDSON DELETES 30 DAYS DOES NOT MEAN OTHER GOVERNMENT AGENCIES DID NOT ACCESS, DOWNLOAD OR RETAIN THAT DATA. RESIDENTS HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW WHO ACCESS THE DATA AND WHETHER OR NOT IT'S BEEN RETAINED. I AM ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT DOCUMENTED CASES ELSEWHERE, WHERE SURVEILLANCE TOOLS WERE MISUSED TO TRACK INDIVIDUALS WITHOUT LEGITIMATE LAW ENFORCEMENT PURPOSE. I'M NOT SAYING THIS IS HAPPENING IN RICHARDSON, BUT THOSE EXAMPLES SHOW HOW STRONG AUDITING, CLEAR RULES AND ACCOUNTABILITY ARE NEEDED BEFORE MISUSE OCCURS. MY REQUEST TO THE CITY COUNCIL IS THIS. PLEASE LOOK AT THE DATA AND VERIFY WHETHER THE SYSTEMS ARE ACTUALLY ACHIEVING THEIR ORIGINAL STATED PURPOSE. IF THE PURPOSE WAS TO SOLVE RICHARDSON CRIMES, REDUCE OFFICER WORKLOAD, AND IMPROVE PUBLIC SAFETY, THEN THE CITY SHOULD BE ABLE TO SHOW A MEASURABLE RESULT. I RESPECTFULLY ASK THE CITY COUNCIL TO REVIEW AND MAKE PUBLIC THE DATA SHOWING THE NUMBER OF RICHARDSON SPECIFIC CRIMES THAT HAVE BEEN SOLVED BY RICHARDSON'S FLOCK SYSTEM. THE AMOUNT OF OFFICER TIME DEVOTED TO INVESTIGATING, RESPONDING TO FLOCK ALERTS, AND CRIMES OCCURRING OUTSIDE OF RICHARDSON, THE COST OF STAFF TIME, TAXPAYER DOLLARS ASSOCIATED WITH RESPONDING TO PUBLIC INFORMATION REQUESTS, CONDUCTING AUDITS, MANAGING SYSTEM OVERSIGHT, ADDRESSING POTENTIAL LEGAL LIABILITIES RESULTING FROM ERRORS, MISUSE AND INAPPROPRIATE ACCESS. THE LAST POINT IS WHETHER THE OVERALL EFFECT HAS REDUCED THE WORKLOAD OR SIMPLY SHIFTED IT. THESE ARE QUAIFIABLE QUESTIONS. IF THE SYSTEM IS WORKING, THE PUBLIC SHOULD SEE THAT IF IF IT CREATES A WORKLOAD, LEGAL EXPOSURE, PRIVACY RISK OR PUBLIC RECORDS COSTS, PUBLIC COST, THE PUBLIC DESERVES TO SEE THAT. IN CLOSING, TRANSPARENCY BUILDS TRUST. I ASKED THE COUNCIL TO CONTINUE REVIEWING FLOCK SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGIES WITH A FOCUS ON ACCOUNTABILITY, EFFECTIVENESS AND PRIVACY PROTECTIONS. AS OUT AS ELECTED OFFICIALS, I URGE YOU TO ENSURE THAT YOUR ACTIONS REFLECT THE WISHES AND VALUES OF THE PEOPLE WHO ENTRUSTED YOU WITH PUBLIC OFFICE. RESIDENTS EXPECT THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS, INCLUDING FOURTH AMENDMENT PROTECTIONS AGAINST UNREASONABLE GOVERNMENT SURVEILLANCE TO BE RESPECTED AND SAFEGUARDED. PUBLIC SAFETY MATTERS SO DO PRIVACY, ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRUST.

RICHARDSON SHOULD NOT HAVE TO CHOOSE ONE OVER THE OTHER. THANK YOU, MR. BRIAN. JOHN DAVIS. GOOD EVENING. I'M JOHN DAVIS, 2535 BIGHORN LANE IN RICHARDSON. I'M GIVING COMMENTS AGAINST THE USE OF FLOCK CAMERAS AND OTHER SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGIES, TRACKING A PERSON'S MOVEMENTS RAISES AN ISSUE MANY PEOPLE RAISE. WELL, WHAT'S WRONG WITH KNOWING WHERE YOU'VE BEEN? THERE'S NOTHING TO HIDE. YOU HAVE NOTHING TO FEAR. THERE'S A LOGICAL PROBLEM WITH THAT STATEMENT. IT ASSUMES THAT THE ONLY LEGITIMATE REASON TO RESIST SURVEILLANCE IS THAT YOU ARE GUILTY. BUT THAT'S BACKWARDS. THE QUESTION ISN'T WHETHER YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO HIDE, IT'S WHETHER SOMEONE ELSE HAS A LEGITIMATE REASON TO LOOK THAT IS, IS THERE A VALID FOURTH AMENDMENT WARRANT BASED ON PROBABLE CAUSE AND SIGNED BY A JUDGE TO GATHER INFORMATION AND SEARCH FOR PARTICULAR ITEMS? PRIVACY IS NOT ABOUT HIDING WRONGDOING. IT'S ABOUT

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WANTING PRIVACY DOES NOT IMPLY WRONGDOING. NUMBER TWO, THE BURDEN OF PROOF GETS REVERSED.

IN A FREE SOCIETY, THE PERSON MAKING AN ACCUSATION GENERALLY HAS TO ESTABLISH WRONGDOING.

BUT SHOW ME WHERE YOU'VE BEEN SO I CAN VERIFY YOUR INNOCENT EFFECTIVELY. ASK THE ACLU'S ACCUSED TO PROVE A NEGATIVE. THREE PEOPLE CAN BE HARMED WITHOUT DOING ANYTHING WRONG.

INFORMATION CAN BE MISUNDERSTOOD, TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT, LEAKED, STOLEN OR USED MALICIOUSLY FOR NOTHING TO HIDE, QUOTE UNQUOTE, IS SUBJECTIVE. MOST PEOPLE HAVE THINGS THEY WOULDN'T WANT PUBLICLY KNOWN, NOT BECAUSE THEY'RE CRIMINAL, BUT BECAUSE THEY'RE EMBARRASSING, INTIMATE, POLITICALLY SENSITIVE, COMMERCIALLY VALUABLE, OR SIMPLY PERSONAL. PRIVACY GIVES PEOPLE CONTROL OVER WHO GETS ACCESS TO THOSE PARTS OF THEIR LIVES. FIVE SURVEILLANCE CHANGES BEHAVIOR. IF PEOPLE BELIEVE THEY'RE CONSTANTLY BEING WATCHED, THEY MAY BE. THEY MAY AVOID PERFECTLY LEGITIMATE ACTIVITIES BECAUSE THEY FEAR BEING MISUNDERSTOOD OR JUDGED. SIX POWER MATTERS. THE QUESTION ISN'T MERELY WOULD I PERSONALLY MIND BEING WATCHED? IT'S WHO GETS TO WATCH ME? WHAT CAN THEY DO WITH THE INFORMATION? AND WHO WATCHES THE WATCHERS GIVING INSTITUTIONS EXTENSIVE ACCESS TO PRIVATE INFORMATION CREATES OPPORTUNITIES FOR ABUSE. NUMBER SEVEN INFORMATION COLLECTED FOR ONE PERSON CAN BE USED FOR ANOTHER. SOMEONE MIGHT INITIALLY COLLECT DATA FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT PURPOSES, BUT LATER USE IT FOR ADVERTISING. POLITICAL TARGETING, EMPLOYMENT DECISIONS OR OTHER PURPOSES. EIGHT YOU MAY NOT KNOW WHAT WILL BE SENSITIVE LATER.

INFORMATION THAT SEEMS HARMLESS TODAY CAN BECOME CONSEQUENTIAL WHEN CIRCUMSTANCES CHANGE.

NUMBER NINE INNOCENCE DOES NOT PROTECT AGAINST ARBITRARY RULES. SOMETHING CAN BE LEGAL TODAY AND ILLEGAL TOMORROW, OR SOCIALLY ACCEPTABLE TODAY AND STIGMATIZED TOMORROW. PRIVACY PROVIDES SOME PROTECTION AGAINST HAVING YOUR ENTIRE PAST JUDGED ACCORDING TO WHATEVER STANDARDS CURRENTLY PREVAIL. AND NUMBER TEN, PRIVACY IS. PRIVACY IS VALUABLE EVEN WHEN NOBODY IS WATCHING. PRIVACY CAN BE UNDERSTOOD AS CONTROL OVER INFORMATION ABOUT YOURSELF, RATHER THAN SIMPLY HIDING WRONGDOING. WE ALREADY RECOGNIZE THIS PRINCIPLE IN ORDINARY LIFE. YOU DON'T NORMALLY DEMAND TO READ YOUR FRIEND'S DIARY SIMPLY BECAUSE YOU BELIEVE THEY'RE INNOCENT. BECAUSE OF ALL THESE REASONS, THE CITY OF RICHARDSON SHOULD PERMANENTLY BAN THE EFFECT AND THE USE OF ALL FLOCK CAMERAS AND OTHER SURVEILLANCE TECHNIQUES. I DO NOT WANT OUR CITY TO TAKE A STEP TOWARD 1984. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. DAVIS.

RICHARD STRECKER. RICHARD STRECKER, 2809 FOX CREEK DRIVE, RICHARDSON. AT THE MARCH 2ND, 2026 CITY COUNCIL MEETING, POLICE CHIEF GARY TITTEL PRESENTED THE ANNUAL DEPARTMENT REVIEW. AFTER THE PRESENTATION, COUNCILMAN JOE CORCORAN ASKED THE CHIEF HOW MUCH OF THE REDUCTION IN CRIMINAL ACTIVITY DEPICTED IN THE SLIDES COULD BE ATTRIBUTED TO THE CITY'S USE OF FLOCK CAMERAS. ONE OF CHIEF TITTLE'S ASSISTANTS THEN WENT ON TO GIVE A LITANY OF STATISTICS ON HOW THE CAMERAS PROVIDED THE RPD WITH INFORMATION LEADING TO POTENTIAL CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR. IRONICALLY, IN TODAY'S ONLINE NEW YORK TIMES, THERE'S AN

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NOW, EVEN IF YOU DON'T HAVE A SUBSCRIPTION TO THE NEW YORK TIMES IN ORDER TO READ THE ARTICLE, THERE'S A VIDEO ACCOMPANYING THE ARTICLE THAT GIVES A PRETTY GOOD SYNOPSIS OF THE ISSUES RAISED BY THESE CAMERAS THAT RESULT, IN THE ARTICLE'S OWN WORDS AS UNCONSTITUTIONAL DRAGNET SEARCHES. SINCE EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM PROBABLY HAS A CELL PHONE OR A TABLET, YOU CAN GO OUT TO NYTIMES.COM WEBSITE AND LOOK AT TODAY'S ARTICLE AND SEE THAT VIDEO FOR YOURSELF. FOR MY OWN PART, I'VE EXPRESSED MY VIEWS ON SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGIES IN GENERAL AND FLOCK CAMERAS IN PARTICULAR TO THIS AND PREVIOUS COUNCILS OVER THE YEARS. SPECIFICALLY, TECHNOLOGY COMPANIES THAT OBTAIN AND STORE SURVEILLED INFORMATION ARE LESS THAN FORTHRIGHT ABOUT WHAT THEY DO WITH IT, AND FOR HOW LONG THEY STORE PERSONAL INFORMATION. UNFORTUNATELY, WE ARE ALL COMPLICIT IN THE LOSS OF PRIVACY BY OUR DEVICES THAT WE USE ON A DAILY BASIS. WHETHER THEY'RE CELL PHONES, FITNESS WATCHES, OR ONLINE INTERNET SEARCHES. I LEAVE YOU WITH TWO HISTORICAL EXAMPLES OF THE DANGER THAT THESE TYPES OF SYSTEMS CAN LEAD TO. THE FIRST IS THE PANOPTICON, AN 18TH CENTURY PRISON DESIGN BY THE ENGLISH PHILOSOPHER JEREMY BENTHAM. IT FEATURES A CENTRAL GUARD TOWER WITH BLINDS OR DARKENED WINDOWS, SO THAT THE GUARDS CAN'T BE SEEN SURROUNDED BY A RING OF SINGLE ROOM BACKLIT CELLS SO THAT THE INMATES ARE ALWAYS VISIBLE. THE RESULT? INMATES ASSUME CONSTANT SURVEILLANCE, WHICH FORCES THEM TO OBEY RULES AT ALL TIMES.

TODAY'S SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGIES INVERT THE GEOMETRY. CITIZENS ARE IN THE MIDDLE, SURROUNDED BY A RING OF HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF CAMERAS, WHICH FORCES THEM TO SELF-CENSOR THEIR OWN BEHAVIOR, INCLUDING LEGITIMATE PROTEST. THE SECOND EXAMPLE IS A QUOTE FROM BENJAMIN FRANKLIN ON LIBERTY, WRITTEN IN 1755. TO PARAPHRASE FRANKLIN, THOSE WHO WOULD GIVE UP ESSENTIAL LIBERTY TO PURCHASE A LITTLE TEMPORARY SAFETY WILL LOSE BOTH AND DESERVE NEITHER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. STRIKER. JENNY LOUGHLIN. HELLO. MY NAME IS JENNY LOUGHLIN. I LIVE AT 804 FIRESTONE IN RICHARDSON. I WANT TO THANK THE COUNCIL AND CITY MANAGER FOR PUTTING THIS FLOCK SUBJECT ON THE AGENDA. I BELIEVE THAT RICHARDSON, COUNCIL AND MANAGEMENT HAVE ALWAYS HAD AN OPEN DOOR POLICY, BUT IT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE ACTIVELY NOW GOING OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY AND LISTENING THAT WE HAVE THIS ARE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION. I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT AS WELL. IN REGARDS TO THE CONCERNS ABOUT THE AUTOMATED LICENSE PLATE READING CAMERAS OR ALPR CAMERAS, I HAVE TWO THINGS TO SAY HERE.

ONE, THE PUBLIC DESERVES FULL DISCLOSURE ABOUT THEM FROM HOW THEY WORK TO WHY THEY'RE USED, AND WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE VAST AMOUNT OF DATA THAT'S COLLECTED. I'D LIKE TO SEE OUR ESTEEMED CHIEF OF POLICE HOLD A TOWN HALL AND ANSWER EVERY QUESTION. THE CITY THE CITIZENS BRING.

AND TWO, I BELIEVE THAT THE CITY SHOULD BE OPEN TO COMPLETELY REMOVING THESE SURVEILLANCE DEVICES. AND SHORT OF THAT, THERE SHOULD BE STRICT ADHERENCE TO SOME KIND OF CODE OF ETHICS OR REGULATIONS AND OVERSIGHT BY SOME INSPECTOR GENERAL TYPE BODY CHOSEN BY THE PEOPLE. THE ARGUMENT THAT IF YOU AREN'T DOING ANYTHING WRONG, NOT TO SAY THIS OVER AGAIN, THEN YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO WORRY ABOUT. SOUNDS REASONABLE. BUT IN THE LAST FEW YEARS, THINGS LIKE PRIVACY TO MAKE LEGAL HEALTH CARE DECISIONS HAVE BEEN TAKEN AWAY. THE LEGAL ABILITY TO USE AND BUY BUYING USED THC WAS JUST REMOVED LESS THAN TWO WEEKS AGO. LITTLE BY LITTLE. THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN LEGAL ARE BEING MADE ILLEGAL. AND AT THE SAME TIME, THESE SURVEILLANCE SYSTEMS BECOME QUIETLY MORE AND MORE ADVANCED, CONNECTED AND UBIQUITOUS. WE STILL HAVE THE RIGHT TO PRIVACY, AND ANY INFRINGEMENT ON THAT RIGHT DESERVES A MEASURED AND THOROUGH PUBLIC EXAMINATION TO DETERMINE IF THE COST IS WORTH THE REWARD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS LOUGHLIN. NO MORE SPEAKERS. MAYOR, ARE THERE ANY OTHERS IN THE AUDIENCE TONIGHT

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[4. CONSENT AGENDA]

[5. REVIEW AND DISCUSS NATIONAL PREPAREDNESS MONTH ]

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RIGHT. AND SO WE WANT TO DO THAT BY MAKING OUR COMMUNITY MORE RESILIENT, AND ALSO DO THAT IN A WAY WHERE ALL STAKEHOLDERS ARE VALUED AND ARE BETTER PREPARED TO RESPOND TO ANYTHING THAT MIGHT COME OUR WAY. SO, AS DON ALLUDED TO, I'VE ALSO BROUGHT SCOTT GREESON FROM MY TEAM, AND HE'S HERE WITH ME TO CELEBRATE NATIONAL PREPAREDNESS MONTH. SO I JUST APPRECIATE WHAT STAFF HAS DONE TO PREPARE FOR THIS AS WELL. SO ALL RIGHT. SO WE DO HAVE SUPPORT FROM OUR COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT FOR THIS MONTH. AND WE DO SORT OF A PUBLIC PUSH FOR INFORMATION AGAIN, TO ENCOURAGE FOLKS TO TAKE ACTION WITHIN THEIR OWN HOMES, WITHIN, YOU KNOW, THEIR BUSINESS, TO BECOME MORE PREPARED TO PREPARE THEIR FAMILY AND THINK ABOUT WHAT THAT NEXT STEP MIGHT BE. SO THE FIRST STEP TO DO THAT IS TO BE INFORMED. SIGNING UP FOR ALERTS WOULD PROVIDE WEATHER AWARENESS PRIMARILY, ESPECIALLY IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. SO JUST TO GIVE AN EXAMPLE OF ALERTS THAT YOU MIGHT RECEIVE WITHIN THE LAST 30 DAYS, WE'VE ISSUED 32 SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING ALERTS. SO EVEN THOUGH IT WAS A BIT DRY, THE 30 DAYS IN THE PREVIOUS MONTH HAD 32 AERIAL FLOOD ADVISORIES. THERE WERE FIVE AND ONE TORNADO WARNING AS A TERTIARY WEATHER EVENT THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE AN EXAMPLE OF THINGS THAT MIGHT COME OUR WAY IN TEXAS. SO WE KNOW THAT THE NATURE OF WEATHER IS THAT IT CHANGES RAPIDLY, AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO TAKE ACTION. SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE TYPES OF ALERTS THAT YOU COULD SIGN UP FOR AT COR.NET/ALERTS. SO THIS IS JUST ONE OF THE GRAPHICS THAT ARE GREAT. COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT HAS PUT TOGETHER. AS FAR AS OTHER ALERTS THAT WE HAVE PROVIDED THROUGHOUT THIS YEAR. AN EXAMPLE OF THAT IS 914 ALERTS RIGHT? TO HELP RESIDENTS BE MORE PREPARED. BUT ALSO IT COULD BE TO RECOVER A MISSING PERSON IN A NEIGHBORHOOD, ANYBODY THAT'S BEEN REPORTED AND NEED ASSISTANCE. WINTER WEATHER IS COMING EVERY YEAR, AND SO WE DO PROVIDE INFORMATION ABOUT WARMING CENTERS AND OTHER PROACTIVE STEPS TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR COMMUNITY STAYS SAFE THROUGHOUT THOSE INCIDENTS. SO WE DID THAT 914 TIMES. AND FOR ALL OF THOSE CONTACTS, WE TOUCHED 385,000 DIFFERENT CONTACTS THROUGHOUT ALL OF THOSE 914 ALERTS. SO IT'S BEEN AN AMAZING PROCESS FOR US TO KEEP OUR NEIGHBORHOODS SAFE AND BETTER CONNECTED. SO WE DO HAVE I KNOW I GOT SOME QUESTIONS LAST YEAR, SO I WANTED TO INCORPORATE YOUR FEEDBACK. SO WE DO HAVE 7644 ORGANIZATION OR RESIDENT CONTACTS THAT HAVE OPTED IN FOR THOSE. AND WE DO HAVE ACCESS TO 83,000, MORE THAN 83,000, INCLUDING NURSING HOMES, DIALYSIS CENTERS. AND SO SOME OF THOSE SINGLE CONTACTS ACTUALLY REPRESENT A LOT OF FOLKS THAT CAN BE MORE PREPARED.

SO WE LOVE TO DO THAT WITH THOSE WARNINGS AND NOTIFICATIONS. ALL RIGHT. SO A FEW ADDITIONAL GRAPHICS THAT YOU'LL SEE THROUGH NATIONAL PREPAREDNESS MONTH REMIND YOU TO BUILD A KIT OF EMERGENCY SUPPLIES TO CHECK THOSE RESOURCES. EVEN SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS A WHISTLE, RIGHT, CAN HELP YOU SIGNAL FOR HELP. AND HAVING THOSE THINGS TOGETHER FOR AN EMERGENCY. GETTING ALERTS THROUGH THE NOAA WEATHER RADIOS OR OTHER MEANS MULTIPLE METHODS OF WARNING IS ALWAYS RECOMMENDED. MAKING A PLAN WITH YOUR FAMILY AND ULTIMATELY GETTING INVOLVED RIGHT IN WHATEVER AVENUE THAT MIGHT BE FOR YOUR HOUSEHOLD, THROUGH YOUR BUSINESS, THROUGH YOUR FAITH, OR ANY OTHER ACTION THAT FEELS COMFORTABLE TO YOU AND MAKING OUR COMMUNITY MORE RESILIENT TOGETHER. SO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR EFFORTS THROUGH THE LIBRARY AND THE PARTNERSHIP THERE TO PREPARE CHILDREN AND HOUSEHOLDS WE HAVE DISTRIBUTED SO FAR IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, 5500 PREPAREDNESS PASSPORTS FOR FAMILIES TO BECOME MORE PREPARED. SO WE REALLY DO LIKE TO START THIS FROM THE GROUND UP AND TO BUILD THAT CULTURE WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY. SO OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS IS A NEW PROGRAM THAT WE CREATED THAT SPECIFIC TO RICHARDSON. WE'VE DISTRIBUTED 5500, AND WE'RE ON TRACK TO DO SIMILAR NUMBERS TO LAST YEAR. SO ABOUT 6000 ONCE WE GET THROUGH NATIONAL PREPAREDNESS MONTH. SO IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED, YOU CAN PICK UP THIS MATERIAL AT THE LIBRARY AND HELP YOUR HOUSEHOLD BECOME MORE PREPARED. ALL RIGHT. SO WE ALSO DID A PUBLIC SAFETY MERIT BADGE DAY WHERE WE ISSUED SEVEN DIFFERENT BADGES, OPPORTUNITIES FOR THOSE BADGES. AND WE HAD 78 SCOUTS AND SCOUT LEADERS WHO ATTENDED. SO IT WAS A GREAT EFFORT FOR THOSE WHO ARE VERY INTERESTED IN BEING PREPARED TO EARN THOSE BADGES, THINGS LIKE FIRST AID, SEARCH AND RESCUE, FINGERPRINTING THAT

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SO THIS IS SOMETHING WE'RE DEFINITELY GOING TO CARRY FORWARD. IT WAS SUPER SUCCESSFUL AND WAS MAYBE LIFE CHANGING FOR SOMEBODY WHO'S INTERESTED IN THOSE CAREER PATHS. SO IT WAS SUPER FUN. AS FAR AS PROMOTING PREPAREDNESS, WE PROVIDE HOUSEHO BAGS. WE HAVE GREAT VOLUNTEERS WHO ASSEMBLE THOSE BAGS FOR US IN OUR C, F A, A GROUP. AND SO THEY'RE WONDERFUL. THEY PACK THOSE BAGS. THEY'VE DONE IT FOR TEN YEARS WITH US FOR A DECADE OF PARTNERSHIP. SO IT TAKES THE WHOLE COMMUNITY TO HELP EVERYONE GET MORE PREPARED. AND THE BAGS THAT WERE PROVIDED AT COMMUNITY EVENTS, WE WE HAVE ATTENDED 33 EVENTS IN THE LAST YEAR, AND WE HAVE HANDED OUT MORE THAN 2000 BAGS SO THAT IN ADDITION TO THOSE 5500 PREPAREDNESS PASSPORTS, WE JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE FOLKS TO TAKE THOSE STEPS, BUILD A KIT OF EMERGENCY SUPPLIES ON A NICE, CALM DAY. AS DON ALLUDED TO OUR DEPLOYMENTS THIS YEAR AND OUR SUPPORT IN THE STATE OF TEXAS AS PART OF THOSE STATE TEAMS. AND SO THE INCIDENT SUPPORT TASK FORCE IS HOW WE DO THAT. WE HAVE AGREEMENTS WITH THE STATE OF TEXAS TO GO OUT AND ASSIST THE FLOOD RESPONSE EFFORTS AND OTHER AREAS SO WE CAN BRING BACK THOSE LESSONS LEARNED TO OUR COMMUNITY. THE WAY WE DID THAT IN THE FIRST DEPLOYMENT TO UVALDE, TEXAS, WAS BY SUPPORTING THEIR SEARCH AND RESCUE EFFORTS AND ULTIMATELY THEIR COMMUNITY RECOVERY. THEY SET UP A CENTER FOR THAT, AND WE HELPED SUPPORT THOSE OPERATIONS AS WELL. SO IT'S INVALUABLE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO TEST OUR PLANS, OUR RESPONSE, AND ALSO ASSIST THOSE COMMUNITIES AT THE SAME TIME. SO THAT WAS THE FIRST MISSION. THE SECOND MISSION IN JULY AND AUGUST WAS FOR US TO SUPPORT SUTTON COUNTY AND SONORA, TEXAS. THAT'S A JOINT EFFORT BETWEEN THOSE ENTITIES WITH DISASTER FINANCE, WITH EOC OPERATIONS, AND WITH DAMAGE ASSESSMENT.

JUST ULTIMATELY, FLOODING CREATES A LOT OF DAMAGE. SO IT REALLY GIVES US A HANDS ON EXPERIENCE TO EVALUATE SOME OF THOSE THINGS AND ALSO PROVIDE THOSE RECOVERY ASSISTANCE TOOLS TO THE COMMUNITY. SO IT'S INVALUABLE ON ALL PARTS. AND WE'RE JUST BLESSED TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT SUPPORT AS THEY WOULD DO FOR US. SO IT'S BEEN SUCH A GOOD EXPERIENCE AND THINGS THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO EVALUATE IN OUR OWN PLANS. SO WITH THAT, I WILL OPEN IT UP TO THE COUNCIL FOR QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING THAT YOU WANTED TO LOOK AT, SPECIFICALLY. MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHENRIDER. THANK YOU ALICIA. THANK YOU. I ALWAYS LOVE THIS PRESENTATION WHEN YOU COME AND DO IT. I THINK IT'S SO INFORMATIVE AND I'M GLAD. AND I REALLY LIKE ALL OF THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING WITH OUR KIDS. JUST SOMETHING THAT WE SAY EVERY YEAR. AND I JUST WANT TO SAY IT AGAIN AND FEEL FREE TO DO A MUCH BETTER JOB THAN I'LL TRY TO BUTCHER THROUGH IT. BUT JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY, PLEASE SIGN UP FOR THE WARNINGS BECAUSE AGAIN, FROM TIME TO TIME WE GET THE COMMENT THAT SAYS, WELL, I DIDN'T HEAR THE OUTDOOR WARNING SIRENS. THEY'RE NOT DESIGNED TO BE HEARD IN YOUR HOMES. AND SO I JUST ALWAYS LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE THAT SOMEBODY COVERS IT EVERY YEAR, JUST SO PEOPLE RECOGNIZE THEY'RE NOT DESIGNED TO BE HEARD IN THE HOME. THEY'RE DESIGNED. IF YOU'RE OUTSIDE, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE THERE FOR, THEIR OUTDOOR WARNING SIRENS. AND THAT THAT'S WHY WE DO, THAT'S WHY YOU SPEND SO MUCH EFFORT AND TIME TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO SIGN UP FOR THE VARIOUS ALERTS SO THAT THEY DO COME OVER THEIR PHONES. SO WHEN THEY'RE IN THEIR HOMES AT NIGHT, WHATEVER THE CASE MIGHT BE, THEY HEAR THE ALERTS. SO THEY'RE THERE. THEY'RE VERY AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON. BUT I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT AND GREAT JOB AND JUST REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE UPDATES AND ALL THE WARNINGS THAT YOU SEND OUT YOU AND YOUR TEAM ALL THE TIME, ESPECIALLY EVEN THE FUNNY ONES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WWW.CORE.NET/ALERTS. THANK YOU FOR THE SHOUT OUT.

COUNCIL MEMBER BARRIOS. THANK YOU. MAYOR. I JUST WANT TO SAY LIKE MAYOR PRO TEM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL YOU DO. THIS WILL PROBABLY BE THE LAST TIME I SEE YOU FROM THE DAIS, FROM MY TIME HERE ON THE DAIS. AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. YOU'RE YOU'RE A TRUE PROFESSIONAL. NOT JUST YOU, BUT YOUR ENTIRE TEAM AS SOMEBODY WHO HAS A HAS A HEART FOR PREPAREDNESS. AND BECAUSE OF MY PREVIOUS WORK WITH THE AMERICAN RED CROSS, I CONTINUALLY IMPRESSED BY YOU AND YOUR TEAM AND THE AMAZING WORK YOU DO. SO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO IN THE COMMUNITY. AS I PREPARE TO STEP OFF THE. IS THERE ANY ONE THING I. I LEAVE WITH YOU TO. AND I KNOW IT'S CONSTANTLY. PROBABLY PART OF YOUR CONVERSATION IS WHEN IT COMES TO SAFETY, BEARS.

OF COURSE, THE IDEA IS TO DECREASE THOSE BARRIERS. AND AS WE LOOK AT OUR COMMUNITY, AS IT CONTINUES TO INCREASE IN DIVERSITY, AND WE CONTINUE TO FIND NEW WAYS TO REACH SO THAT

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[6. REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE RICHARDSON POLICE DEPARTMENT’S USE OF THE FLOCK CAMERA SYSTEM AND THE CITY’S ASSOCIATED POLICIES ]

SO AS WE GET INTO FLOCK SAFETY, I REALLY WANT TO FOCUS OR REMIND US ALL THAT THIS IS A DISCUSSION NOT ONLY ABOUT TECHNOLOGY, BUT AS YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD TONIGHT, IT'S ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY. AND PART OF THAT PUBLIC SAFETY IS THE SAFETY OF OUR COMMUNITY. BUT IT'S ALSO ABOUT THE SAFETY OF OUR OFFICERS OUT THERE DOING THE JOB. LIKE YOU'VE ALSO HEARD TONIGHT, IT'S ABOUT THE CONSTITUTION. IT'S ABOUT THE CONSTITUTION THAT I HAVE SWORN TO UPHOLD. IT'S ABOUT THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS THAT WE, AS CITIZENS AND MEMBERS OF THIS COMMUNITY HAVE. IT'S ALSO ABOUT TRANSPARENCY. AND IT IS ABSOLUTELY ABOUT ACCOUNTABILITY.

ONE THING THAT I STAND STRONG ON, AND THE RICHARDSON POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS A MAJOR PART OF ITS CULTURE FOR THE FUTURE AND FOR TODAY. BUT LET'S TAKE A LOOK BACK. LET'S TAKE A LOOK BACK AT REALLY EVERY GENERATION AND SOME OF THE EXPERIENCES THAT HAVE BEEN CHALLENGED. HOW DO WE RESPONSIBLY USE NEW CAPABILITIES WITHOUT COMPROMISING OUR PRINCIPLES? I THINK ONE OF THE SPEAKERS MAY HAVE ALLUDED TO THAT MAY HAVE SAID IT DIRECTLY, BUT HOW DO WE USE NEW CAPABILITIES WITHOUT COMPROMISING OUR PRINCIPLES? I WILL TELL YOU, WE'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE. WE HAVE BEEN HERE BEFORE IN POLICING, AND IT DEALT WITH FINGERPRINTS. IT

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THEY ARE NOT COLLECTING DATA OR PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE PASSENGERS, DRIVERS, DEMOGRAPHICS OR EVEN THEIR CLOTHING DESCRIPTION. FLOCK DOES NOT CAPTURE EVERY MOVE THAT A VEHICLE MAKES. THEY CAPTURE A POINT IN TIME. OF A VEHICLE ON A PUBLIC ROADWAY, CAPTURING THE LICENSE PLATE, WHICH IS AN IDENTIFIER THAT HAS BEEN ISSUED BY THE GOVERNMENT. HERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF THAT. IN OUR CITY. RICHARDSON, TEXAS. SO LET'S TALK ABOUT RPD'S FLOCK SAFETY DEPLOYMENT. WE'VE HEARD FROM SPEAKERS OR A SPEAKER TONIGHT, AND I BELIEVE IN THE PAST ABOUT THE NUMBER OF FLOCK SAFETY CAMERAS DEPLOYED IN RICHARDSON, ALLEGEDLY BY THE CITY OF RICHARDSON. LET ME BE FIRM AND LET ME BE CLEAR. WE HAVE 20 RPD STATIONARY CAMERAS DEPLOYED ACROSS 14 MAJOR INTERSECTIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. WE HAVE IDENTIFIED THOSE LOCATIONS BASED ON DATA DRIVEN CRIME ANALYSIS AT THOSE LOCATIONS. THAT'S WHY WE'VE CHOSEN THOSE LOCATIONS. MOST INTERSECTIONS ONLY COVER ONE DIRECTION OF TRAVEL, AS A CAMERA IS ONLY VIEW 2 TO 3 LANES OF TRAFFIC EACH. SOME INTERSECTIONS HAVE TWO CAMERAS DEPLOYED TO COVER TWO DIRECTIONS OF TRAVEL. THERE ARE MORE THAN 30 ADDITIONAL STATIONARY ALPR CAMERAS OWNED BY OTHER ENTITIES IN OUR CITY THAT ARE EITHER PRIVATELY OR INDEPENDENTLY OWNED. WE DO NOT HAVE CONTROL OVER THE PLACEMENT OR DATA SHARING OF THE OTHER 30 PLUS CAMERAS. FLOCK DATA IS ONLY STORED FOR 30 DAYS, UNLESS IT IS TIED TO AN ACTIVE CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION. LOTS OF MYTHS. LOTS OF FACTS. A MYTH IS FLOCK SELLS CUSTOMER DATA, COMPILING IT ALL INTO A

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FLOCKS. LPR SYSTEM DOES NOT COLLECT PRIVATE INFORMATION OR DMV RECORDS SUCH AS NAMES, ADDRESSES, SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS IS. IT ONLY CONTAINS IMAGES OF VEHICLES. POINT IN TIME, IMAGES OF VEHICLES AND LICENSE PLATES, WHICH AGAIN, ARE GOVERNMENT ISSUED AND DESIGNED TO BE PUBLICLY DISPLAYED ON PUBLIC ROADWAYS FOR VEHICLE IDENTIFICATION. WE ARE IDENTIFYING VEHICLES METH, FIXED LPR CAN TRACK PEOPLE AND SHOW POLICE EVERYWHERE THEY GO.

FIXED LPR IS TAKE A POINT IN TIME IMAGE OF THE REAR OF VEHICLES ON PUBLIC ROADWAYS.

THEY DO NOT CONTINUOUSLY TRACK VEHICLES. ANY IMAGE NOT USED FOR AN INVESTIGATION WILL BE DELETED. COURTS HAVE CONSISTENTLY FOUND THAT TAKING IMAGES OF PUBLIC DOCUMENTS, I.E. LICENSE PLATES ON PUBLIC ROADWAYS, IS NOT A VIOLATION OF PRIVACY. ANOTHER MYTH LPR CAMERAS NEGATIVELY IMPACT COMMUNITIES OF COLOR. LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE FACT THERE.

GROUPS SUCH AS THE HISTORIC OAKLAND, CALIFORNIA, CHAPTER OF THE NAACP HAVE ENDORSED FLOC LPR SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE IT REDUCES BIAS IN POLICING THERE. QUOTE. THESE CAMERAS ARE DESIGNED TO DETECT ONLY VEHICLES ASSOCIATED WITH A CRIME, REMOVING THE SUBJECTIVE JUDGMENT THAT TOO OFTEN LEADS TO A DISPROPORTIONATE STOPS AND HARMFUL INTERACTIONS WITH BLACK AND BROWN RESIDENTS. JUST ONE MORE SLIDE OF MYTH VERSUS FACTS. FLOCKS. LPR CAMERAS USE FACIAL RECOGNITION. THEY DO NOT USE FACIAL RECOGNITION, AND THE FLOCK LPR SYSTEM CANNOT BE SEARCHED FOR HUMAN CHARACTERISTICS LIKE RACE OR GENDER MYTH FLOCKS PRIVATE CUSTOMERS CAN ACCESS LAW ENFORCEMENT DATA THAT IS INCORRECT. FLOCKS PRIVATE CUSTOMERS USE THEIR OWN FLOCK SERVICES FOR ISSUES LIKE ORGANIZED RETAIL THEFT, AND CAN CHOOSE TO SHARE ACCESS TO THEIR CAMERAS WITH EXPLICIT CONSENT, BUT THEY DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO RPD OR ANY LAW ENFORCEMENT DATA. LASTLY, MYTH LPR'S VIOLATE THE FOURTH AMENDMENT. FACT IS, APPELLATE AND FEDERAL DISTRICT COURTS HAVE AT LEAST 14 STATES IN WHICH THEY INCLUDE BOTH THE NINTH AND 11TH CIRCUITS IN WHICH THE COURTS HAVE UPHELD. USING EVIDENCE FROM LICENSE PLATE READERS AS CONSTITUTIONAL WITHOUT REQUIRING A WARRANT. DATA SAFEGUARDS. DATA SAFEGUARDS FOR FLOCKS SAFETY. ALL DATA IS ENCRYPTED TO ENSURE ITS SAFETY AND LIMITED ACCESS TO AUTHORIZED PERSONNEL. THIS ENCRYPTION MEETS OR EXCEEDS CRIMINAL JUSTICE INFORMATION SYSTEM CJIS. IT ALSO MEETS OR EXCEEDS THE NATIONAL DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION ACT. THE SYSTEMS AND ORGANIZATION CONTROLS AND HIGHER EDUCATION COMMUNITY VENDOR ASSESSMENT TOOLKIT STANDARDS. EFFECTIVE JUST EARLIER THIS MONTH, FLOC ENABLED THE DUAL AUTHENTICATION, WHICH IS REQUIRED NOW FOR ACCESS. WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT RPD GUIDELINES AND SAFEGUARDS YOUTH. ITS USE IS AUTHORIZED ONLY FOR COMPLIANCE, SWORN PERSONNEL AND CJIS COMPLIANT NON-SWORN INVESTIGATIVE PERSONNEL. RPD OWNS RICHARDSON GENERATED DATA AND IT IS STORED ON FLOCK OWNED SERVERS, WHICH MEET THE REQUIREMENTS. AS A SLIDE THAT I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, FLOCK MAY NOT SELL OR OWN OUR DATA. THE CONTRACT REPORTEDLY ALLOWS THE USE OF ANONYMIZED AND CUSTOMER GENERATED INFORMATION FOR SERVICE IMPROVEMENT AND

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CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS, ACTIVE CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS. THE AUDIENCE FOR ANY RPD HOT LIST IS LIMITED TO RPD PERSONNEL ONLY AND IS NOT SHARED WITH OUTSIDE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES. ANY VEHICLE LISTED ON A HOT LIST MUST BE TIED TO AN ACTIVE CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION AND REGULARLY REVIEWED TO ENSURE ITS CONTINUED LISTING AS NECESSARY. ALL HOT LISTS ARE AUDITED MONTHLY TO ENSURE THAT COMPLIANCE. AUTOMATIC ALERTS ALL AUTOMATIC ALERTS ARE TRIGGERED BY LICENSE PLATES ENTERED INTO THE NCIC, AND AGAIN, THE NATIONAL CENTER FOR MISSING AND EXPLOITED CHILDREN. THOSE TYPES OF ALERTS INCLUDE PROTECTIVE ORDERS. GANG AND TERRORIST SUSPECTS, MISSING PERSONS, PROTECTIVE INTEREST, PROTECTIVE INTEREST AND AN EXAMPLE OF THAT WOULD BE RELATED TO SECRET SERVICE WITNESS, SECRET SERVICE, DIGNITARY PROTECTION, SEX OFFENDERS, STOLEN LICENSE PLATES, STOLEN VEHICLE, A SUPERVISED RELEASE, SOMEONE ON COMMUNITY RELEASE FROM PRISON, VIOLENT PERSONS WARRANTS, MISSING CHILDREN, AMBER ALERTS AND SILVER ALERTS. THE ALERT IN THIS TYPE OF ALERT WOULD BE THE SAME TYPE OF ALERT THAT AN OFFICER WOULD RECEIVE IF HE OR SHE ENTERED MANUALLY BY THEIR OWN FINGERTIPS. THAT TYPE OF THAT TAG. IF THEY WERE TO ENTER IT INTO THEIR CAR COMPUTER. RPD, FLOCK, SAFETY DATA SHARING RPD DOES SHARE ITS FLOCK SAFETY DATA WITH A LIMITED NUMBER OF.

PRIMARILY TO A LIMITED NUMBER OF DFW AREA LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES, AS WELL AS A SELECT

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SEARCHING FLOCK SAFETY DATA, ALL FLOCK SAFETY DATA SEARCHES MUST BE TIED TO A LEGITIMATE LAW ENFORCEMENT PURPOSE. WE MUST EITHER ENTER THE PURPOSE FOR WHICH THE SEARCH IS BEING CONDUCTED, OR WE MUST ENTER A SERVICE NUMBER REPORT NUMBER FOR WHICH THE SEARCH IS RELATED TO. ONE OF THE TWO MUST BE IN THERE. OTHERWISE, BY DEFAULT, FLOCK WILL NOT ALLOW THE SEARCH TO OCCUR. PREFERABLY BOTH ARE ENTERED. MOST OFTEN BOTH ARE ENTERED. THERE ARE A FEW EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES THAT I CAN SPEAK TO THAT THAT MIGHT NOT BE THE CASE. BASED ON EFFICIENCY AND BASED ON URGENCY, OFFICERS MUST ENTER THE OFFENSE TYPE AND REASON FOR SEARCH EVERY SEARCH AS WELL AS A CASE NUMBER WHEN APPLICABLE. AUDITS AND COMPLIANCE CHECKS. EVERY SEARCH CONDUCTED IN FLOCK IS LOGGED, EVEN IF FLOCK THEMSELVES WERE TO GO INTO OUR SYSTEM AND COMPLETE A SEARCH THAT WOULD BE RECOGNIZED AND IDENTIFIED AS WE COMPLETE AND CONDUCT OUR OWN AUDITS. IT CAN BE REVIEWED TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH BOTH LAWS AND OUR POLICY AUDITS. IDENTIFY THE REVIEWER. THE FREQUENCY, THE SAMPLE SIZE RECORDS EXAMINED, THE ESCALATION PROCESS, AND MOST RECENT FINDINGS. RPD SUPERVISORS CAN VIEW EVERY

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WE'LL MOVE ON BECAUSE WE HAVE MORE. CHIEF. YES. I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT IN IN YOUR THE. DO YOU MIND TURNING ON YOUR MICROPHONE? IT IS ON. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? I CAN NOW.

OKAY. SORRY ABOUT THAT, MAYOR. SO THE FIFTH CIRCUIT HAS ALSO UPHELD THE USE OF THE LPR READERS AND HAS FOUND THAT THERE'S NO RIGHT OF PRIVACY AND THE LICENSE PLATE OR IN MOVEMENT ON THE PUBLIC STREETS AS WELL. SO THAT FIFTH CIRCUIT COURT OF APPEALS, THAT'S THE LAW THAT APPLIES TO THE STATE OF TEXAS. SO CLEARLY, IT'S IT'S IT'S LAWFUL. AND IT'S JUST ONE OF THE TOOLS THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT USES. SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU. NO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT CLARIFICATION AND ACTUALLY SAVES ME A LITTLE TIME. THANK YOU SIR. SO AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF THINGS AT MIND AND WE LOOK AT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE ALREADY HEARD TONIGHT FROM OUR SPEAKERS. WE LOOK AT SOME OF THE THINGS I'VE ALREADY COMMENTED ON, AND I TITLED THAT CONSTITUTIONAL STEWARDSHIP. MANY OF YOU MAY HAVE HEARD THE WORD, THE PHRASE CONSTITUTIONAL POLICING. I'M USING THE WORD CONSTITUTIONAL STEWARDSHIP BECAUSE THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED TO BE FOCUSING ON RIGHT NOW. YOU, WE, I, WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO UPHOLD. AND THAT'S OUR CONSTITUTION. THAT'S WHAT I AIM

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WHAT I'M HERE TO SHARE IS THAT WE ARE FOLLOWING THE LAW. THE COURTS HAVE UPHELD THAT THIS IS A LAWFUL TOOL. FOR THE USE OF LAW ENFORCEMENT. IT REQUIRES GOVERNANCE. ABSOLUTELY IT DOES.

IN EVERYTHING THAT WE DO IN POLICE DEPARTMENTS AND IN GOVERNMENT. WE SHOULD EMBRACE TRANSPARENCY. BUT WE LOOK AT THE USE OF THIS TOOL AS IT RELATES TO CONSTITUTIONAL STEWARDSHIP, AND WE RECOGNIZE LEGITIMACY. AND AS WE ALL KNOW, IN THIS CITY, WE DO WHAT WE DO BASED ON COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIP. WE HAVE REDUCED CRIME FIVE YEARS RUNNING, AND WE'RE ON THE BACK END OF A SIXTH CONSECUTIVE YEAR OF REDUCING BOTH VIOLENT AND PROPERTY CRIME. WE DON'T DO THAT BY ACCIDENT. WE DO THAT WITH HARD WORK OF THE MEN AND WOMEN. WE DO THAT WITH TECHNOLOGY. WE DO THAT THROUGH EFFICIENCIES, BUT WE ALSO DO THAT THROUGH SUPPORT BY OUR COMMUNITY AND ENGAGEMENT BY OUR COMMUNITY. WE ALSO DO NOT ACCOMPLISH NUMBER ONE OR NUMBER TWO IN THE NATION ON NATIONAL NIGHTS OUT, 5 OR 6 YEARS RUNNING, I'VE LOST TRACK.

THAT'S BASED ON THE GREAT PARTNERSHIPS WITH OUR COMMUNITY, AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE THAT. OUR COMMUNITY HAS EXPECTATIONS. I HAVE EXPECTATIONS YOU HAVE, AS YOU SHOULD, EXPECTATIONS. MY EXPECTATION IS THAT WE KEEP THIS COMMUNITY SAFE, AND WE DO IT WITH THE TOOLS THAT WE HAVE AT OUR DISPOSAL, AND WE DO IT WHILE UPHOLDING OUR COLLECTIVE CONSTITUTION. I NEED TRUST, I NEED YOUR TRUST. I NEED THE TRUST OF THE COMMUNITY. I NEED THE TRUST OF THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THE RICHARDSON POLICE DEPARTMENT. WE HAVE A GREAT RESPONSIBILITY. BUT LET'S TALK ABOUT ACCOUNTABILITY. MAKE NO MISTAKE. I EXPECT YOU TO HOLD ME ACCOUNTABLE BECAUSE I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT I'M GOING TO HOLD THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THE RICHARDSON POLICE DEPARTMENT ACCOUNTABLE. MY TRACK RECORD SHOWS THAT, AND I WILL MAINTAIN THAT BECAUSE OF MANY OF THE RESPONSIBILITIES THAT I HAVE. THAT IS A VERY IMPORTANT RESPONSIBILITY TO ME. IT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT RESPONSIBILITY TO THIS PROFESSION. AS WE MOVE INTO QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSION ON THIS VERY IMPORTANT TOPIC. I WANT TO JUST SAY, AS A REMINDER, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THE PURPOSE OF THIS DISCUSSION IS NOT SO MUCH TO CONVINCE YOU ABOUT A TOOL THAT SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACTS SAFETY IN OUR COMMUNITY, BUT IT'S TO REMIND YOU OF THE CALIBER OF WHAT THE RICHARDSON POLICE DEPARTMENT STANDS FOR AND REINFORCE THE CONFIDENCE THAT I KNOW YOU HAVE IN BOTH OUR INTEGRITY AND IN OUR PROFESSIONALISM AS A POLICE DEPARTMENT. WITH THAT, I WILL CONCLUDE, AND CERTAINLY ENGAGE IN YOUR CONVERSATION. THANK YOU, CHIEF COUNCILMEMBER DORIAN. THANK YOU, MAYOR. CHIEF, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE TIME THAT YOU'VE TAKEN TO TO EXPLAIN THIS TO THE COUNCIL AND ALSO TO THE PUBLIC. I THINK IT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE ALL UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT THIS IS GOING TO DO FOR OUR COMMUNITY

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POSTAL INVESTIGATION, IF WE'RE SHARING THAT INFORMATION AND THEY'RE ACCESSING IT, WHETHER THROUGH A BROWSER OF SOME SORT, WHETHER IT'S CHROME OR I DON'T KNOW IF IT USES A BROWSER TYPE, BUT IN THE EVENT THAT THOSE ARE COLLECTED DATA THROUGH A BROWSER IS THAT BROWSER, STIR THE TRACK SEARCHES AND STORE THAT INTO THE CLOUD. AND IS THAT PERMANENTLY DELETED? AS YOU REFERENCED THE BROWSER? I'M GOING TO HAVE TO PITCH THAT QUESTION TO SERGEANT MASTERS.

BEN, IF YOU DON'T MIND, PLEASE, HELPING ME OUT THERE. SURE. SO IS THE ALPR INFORMATION BASICALLY CACHED IN THE BROWSER HISTORY? NO, IT IT SHOULD NOT BE. IF IT IS, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE EXACT CACHE REQUIREMENTS OR AND SPECIFICS OF EACH BROWSER TYPE, BUT IT WILL NOT DISPLAY LOCATION DATA. THAT WOULD NOT BE A CACHEABLE ITEM IN THIS CASE, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. EVEN EVEN SHARED WITH OTHER. YES, SIR. IN ANY. THE WAY THE WAY THE LOCATION DATA IS. EXCUSE ME, THE WAY THE LOCATION DATA IS STORED OR IS DISPLAYED, IT'S NOT REALLY A CACHEABLE ITEM, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. WELL, AGAIN, A LOT OF THE EMAILS I'VE RECEIVED, YOU KNOW, MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT HERE IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE THE RESIDENTS FEEL CONFIDENT IN THEIR PRIVACY ACT. SO I WANT TO ASK THOSE QUESTIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS, INCLUDING MYSELF. THE OTHER THING ON AS FAR AS THE CASES, HOW MANY CASES HAVE BEEN SOLVED BY USING THE NEW FLOC SYSTEM. SO WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO A FEW OF THE SUCCESS STORIES. AND TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION DIRECTLY, SO NUMEROUS, WE DON'T KNOW. OKAY, BUT NO, SERIOUSLY, PUT A PUT A POINT TO IT. WE DID NOT INITIALLY START COLLECTING THAT DATA UNTIL SEVERAL MONTHS AGO. OKAY. AND YOU ALSO MENTIONED EVERYTHING IS ENCRYPTED. WELL, AT THE TIME THAT YOU'RE COLLECTING THE DATA AND ONCE IT'S DELETED, IT'S DELETED FROM THE CLOUD. IT'S DELETED PERMANENTLY UNLESS THERE'S AN ONGOING INVESTIGATION. THAT IS CORRECT.

OKAY. I HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION. THIS IS FOR OUR CITY MANAGER, MR. WAGNER. OUR OUR CONTRACT.

IN THE EVENT THAT, LET'S SAY SOMETHING TERRIBLE HAPPENS AND IT GETS MISUSED OR SOMETHING POTENTIALLY HAPPENS WITH COLLECTED DATA, FOR WHATEVER REASON, I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH FLOC, AND THEN WE HAVE A WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RENEW IT EVERY YEAR. IS THAT CORRECT? I THINK THE NEXT RENEWAL WILL BE THE END OF 2027. THAT IS CORRECT. DECEMBER OF 2027 IS WHEN THE NEXT RENEWAL WOULD BE OKAY. WELL, THERE WAS A QUESTION ASKED IN THE EVENT THAT WE DID HAVE AN ISSUE AND WE WANTED WE HAD TO GET OUT OF THE CONTRACT BECAUSE OF SOMETHING THAT POTENTIALLY CAME UP. WOULD WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO? AND YES, YOU JUST MENTIONED THAT WE WOULD AFTER WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO RENEW THE CONTRACT AFTER ONE YEAR, OR WE COULD TERMINATE IT IF WE WANTED TO, IF WE DIDN'T MOVE FORWARD.

RIGHT. IF WE DON'T RENEW IT, IT TERMINATES AT THE END OF 2027. YEAH. OKAY. GOOD. THAT'S ALL HAVE FOR NOW. THANK YOU. THANK YOU CHIEF. YES, SIR. COUNCILMEMBER BARRIOS, THANK YOU, MAYOR. CHIEF. I, I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS AND A COUPLE OF THINGS TO SAY. AND I MAY COME BACK BECAUSE AT THE TIME, I DO WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON ONE OF THE QUESTIONS COUNCILMAN DORIAN ASKED ABOUT ACCESS POINT, AND I'M ASSUMING SERGEANT MASTERS MAY BE THE BEST OPTION. SO ON ACCESS POINT, IF I'M SERGEANT MASTERS OR ANY INVESTIGATOR, IS IT OVER INTERNET ACCESS OR IS

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I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT GET TO THE BOTTOM. IS THERE ANY. SO LET ME CLEAR UP THAT DISCREPANCY ON 20 VERSUS 25. OKAY, I WANT FIVE MORE. I HAVE NOT BOUGHT FIVE MORE. OKAY, OKAY. COUNCILMAN BARRIOS, THE ONLY OTHER THING I NOTICED UT DALLAS PROPERTY IS PUBLIC PROPERTY. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO SO THE 30 I'M ASSUMING COULD BE WHETHER IT BE UT OR SOME OTHER ENTITY WITHIN THE CITY. YES, SIR. A COLLEGE AT SCHOOL, WHATEVER. A CHURCH OR A RETAIL STORE, MY BACK YARD, WHATEVER. YES. AND AND A RETAIL STORE. RETAIL STORES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

SO TO CLARIFY, THERE ARE DEFINITELY ONLY 20 ON PUBLIC LAND ASIDE FROM ANYTHING THAT MAY BE A PUBLIC ENTITY LIKE UTD OR TECHNICALLY ARE SD AND PISD ARE PUBLIC, BUT. YES, SIR. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. I WILL SAY, CHIEF ONE MY QUESTIONS AND MY THOUGHTS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH MY QUESTIONING THE PROFESSIONALISM OF THE MEN AND WOMEN IN UNIFORM AT RICHARDSON POLICE DEPARTMENT. ON A PERSONAL LEVEL, I HAVE NO REASON TO EVER QUESTION YOUR CHARACTER OR YOUR COMMITMENT TO PUBLIC SAFETY AND REALITY. YOU'RE GOING TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT.

YOU'RE A MAN OF INTEGRITY, AS IS EVERY MEMBER OF THE FORCE I'VE EVER MET, WHETHER IT WAS AS A PRIVATE RESIDENT. NOW PART OF THIS DAIS, I WILL SAY, AS SOMEBODY WHO'S ABOUT TO STEP DOWN, PART OF THIS PROCESS IS TO LOOK BACK OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS OF SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY. AND I LEARNED QUICKLY WHEN I JOINED THIS COUNCIL THAT I HAD THREE JOBS.

I HAD TO MAKE THE BEST DECISION BASED ON WHAT I KNOW NOW, NOT WHAT I MIGHT KNOW TOMORROW OR THE DAY OR THE WEEK AFTER. BUT THAT WOULD MOST BENEFIT THE MOST AMOUNT OF PEOPLE. I HAD TO MAKE THAT DECISION. I HAD TO BE ABLE TO SLEEP ON IT TONIGHT AND TOMORROW MORNING. HAVE TO BE ABLE TO WAKE UP AND AND FACE MY FAMILY ON THAT DECISION. AND I WILL SAY, IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS, I'VE FELT LIKE I'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT. NOW, THERE HAVE BEEN MAYBE 2 OR 3 VOTES WHERE A WEEK OR TWO LATER I REALIZED, OOPS, MAYBE I DIDN'T QUITE HAVE THE WHOLE PICTURE.

OR LATER YOU LEARN. MAYBE I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING. AND I WILL SAY OF THOSE 2 OR 3 VOTES THAT STICK OUT, THIS IS ONE MY VOTE TO TO APPROVE FLOC. I THINK IT HAPPENED ABOUT SIX MONTHS AFTER I JOINED THE COUNCIL, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, OR WITHIN A YEAR.

IT'S THE ONE THAT STICKS OUT THE MOST. I HONESTLY WISH I DIDN'T TAKE, NOT BECAUSE OF ANY DISTRUST OF THE POLICE FORCE, NOT BECAUSE I THINK THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TRANSPARENCY OR THE PUBLIC INTEREST IN MIND. OVER THE LAST FEW DAYS, I'VE HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW WORD FOR WORD OF THAT CONTRACT. AND LIKE MOST BUSINESS CONTRACTS, WHICH I'VE BEEN A PART OF AS A FORMER SALES GUY MANY, MANY TIMES OVER, THEY BENEFIT THE ENTITY. AND, AND I SEE HOLES THERE AND OPPORTUNITIES NOT THAT WE WOULD EVER, AT A LOCAL LEVEL HAVE AN ISSUE, BUT I HAVE ISSUES WITH THIS AS AN ENTITY FROM A NATIONAL ORGANIZATION. AND WHAT COULD GO WRONG THERE. SO I WANT TO SHARE THAT BECAUSE ONE, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE VOTES THAT I WILL CARRY WITH ME, BECAUSE I DON'T AGREE WITH HOW I VOTED, NOT BECAUSE OF HOW I VOTED THAT NIGHT, BUT JUST BECAUSE WHAT I'VE LEARNED SINCE AND KIND OF THE CONVERSATIONS HAPPEN IN THIS COMMUNITY AND COMMUNITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY AND THE COURTS AND THE STATES AND RESEARCH INSTITUTIONS. BUT I LOOK FORWARD TO BEING PART OF THIS CONVERSATION. MY TIME IS UP, BUT I WANTED I'M GOING TO PROBABLY COME BACK WITH MORE QUESTIONS, CHIEF, BUT THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR COMMITMENT TO INTEGRITY IN OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU, CHIEF, FOR COMING AND PRESENTING THIS MUCH NEEDED INFORMATION, AS YOU SAID, THAT, YOU KNOW, TECHNOLOGY CHANGING IN THE PAST. IT WAS SOME OTHER THINGS. TODAY WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE. THE LICENSE PLATE READER AUTOMATED TOMORROW IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT. I ALREADY HEARD OR KNOW SOME COMPANY THAT THEY ARE WORKING ON DRONE FLYING DRONE THAT'S

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AND, AND I KEEP UP MY WORLD WITH MY, YOU KNOW, USING MY DAUGHTER SELF INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW, TELLING THEM NOT TO USE CERTAIN THINGS. I INSTEAD OF MAKE THEM AS MY FRIEND, I TREAT THEM AS MY FRIEND. AND THAT'S HOW I KEEP UP WITH THOSE THINGS. SO I LEARNED PRETTY MUCH PRETTY, PRETTY, PRETTY FAST HOW TO KEEP UP WITH THE KIDS, MY OWN KIDS. NOW, I DO HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS QUITE A BIT, I THINK, BECAUSE THOSE ARE, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE IF I HAVE THOSE QUESTIONS, THOSE ANY AVERAGE CITIZEN WILL HAVE THOSE QUESTIONS, NOT THAT COMPLICATED QUESTION. AND I DO KNOW THAT I HAVE 2.5 MINUTES LEFT. SO IF YOU ANSWER BRIEFLY, THAT WILL HELP ME. ALSO, IS THERE ANY DATA BREACH SO FAR ON THE ON THIS DATA FLOW DATA REGARDING RICHARDSON? BEN, CAN YOU DATA BREACH LIKE COMPROMISED DATA HISTORY OF NO NOT ABSOLUTELY NOT NOT RICHARDSON. RICHARDSON. NO. AND TO TO BRING THAT UP WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MYTH AND FACT. THERE IS A MYTH OUT THERE THAT FLOCK HAS BEEN. COMPROMISED AND THAT IS NOT ACCURATE. OKAY. NOW I OTHER QUESTION THAT. THE AUDIT YOU SAID THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU DO THAT LIKE MONTHLY, WEEKLY LOOKS LIKE PRETTY FREQUENTLY. DO YOU KEEP ANY AUDIT REPORT WHEN THE AUDIT IS DONE? WRITTEN? I ONLY RECEIVED THE REPORTS WHEN WHEN THEY WHEN THEY MOVED THOSE FORWARD TO ME. YES. OKAY. SO WE KEEP THOSE REPORTS. YES. THERE THERE IS A TRACKING MECHANISM OF WHEN THOSE REPORTS ARE DONE. OKAY. I MEAN, LOTS OF QUESTIONS.

CORRECT ME BEN, CORRECT ME ON THAT. WE WE'VE HAD THAT DISCUSSION, BUT JUST MAKING SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING IT. NO, I THINK YOU'RE GOOD WITH THAT. I MEAN, LOTS OF QUESTIONS.

THAT'S TODAY IS NOT GOING TO BE TOMORROW ANYMORE. IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFERENT QUESTION. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS, HOW IT IS DONE. NOW, THE SEARCH RECORD YOU SAID THAT IS STILL STAYS THERE. THOSE DOES NOT GET DELETED. THOSE STAYS THERE FOREVER. THE RECORD OF THE SEARCH STAYS THERE, THE CONTENT THAT MAY HAVE BEEN RESULT OF THE SEARCH GOES AWAY.

OKAY, SO AND WE CAN HAVE THOSE THINGS IN THE AUDIT REPORT. NOW DOES THE FLOCK CAMERA HAS FACIAL RECOGNITION CAPABILITY. NO, IT DOES NOT. SO IT DOES NOT HAVE THAT CAPABILITY PERIOD.

YOU ARE CORRECT. OKAY. AI TRAINING, DO YOU PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION TO THIRD PARTY FOR TRAINING THE CAMERA? NO. BEN, YOU WANT TO HELP THERE? YES. YES, SIR. SO. IS OUR I BELIEVE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT IS THE DATA FROM OUR CAMERAS? COULD IT BE USED TO TRAIN OR HELP TRAIN FLOCKS, AI FOR LICENSE PLATE READING? IS THAT IS THAT CORRECT? YES, SIR. SO THAT IS PART OF THE CONTRACT. IS THAT OUR THE ANONYMIZED DATA IS USED TO HELP TRAIN THEIR THEIR AI AND READING LICENSE. SO YOU TAKE OUT A BUNCH OF OTHER INFORMATION FROM THAT BEFORE YOU SEND THAT THING TO THEM. CORRECT. IT IS ANONYMIZED. SO IT DOES NOT HAVE THE UNIQUE IDENTIFIERS THAT THEN THEY COULD GO THROUGH AND SEARCH TO CREATE THEIR OWN SEARCHABLE DATABASE, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. OKAY. YEAH. THANK YOU. I HAVE I HAVE A FEW OTHER SMALL QUESTION, BUT MAYBE SOMEBODY ELSE WILL ASK THOSE. I CAN CLARIFY YOUR LAST QUESTION. YOUR QUESTION BEFORE THE LAST ONE. THERE IS NO FACIAL RECOGNITION BECAUSE THE CAMERAS ARE NOT TAKING PICTURES OF FACES. IT'S TAKING PICTURES OF THE BACK OF THE CAR. MOST OF THE TIME, YOU CAN'T EVEN TELL WHAT THE DRIVER IS OR WHO THE DRIVER IS. I DO UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT SOMETIMES YOU KNOW SOME CAMERA, I HAVE A THERMOMETER THAT CAN READ, YOU KNOW, THE BODY TEMPERATURE. AND

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I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY BECAUSE WE JUST HAD A QUESTION ABOUT FACIAL RECOGNITION. DOES THAT SLIDE MEAN THAT IT ALERTS ON LICENSE PLATES ASSOCIATED WITH MISSING PERSONS. NOT THAT WE'RE SEEING MISSING PERSONS AND VEHICLES. YOU ARE CORRECT. IT RECOGNIZED LICENSE PLATES THAT WERE ENTERED REFERENCING MISSING PERSON SUSPECTS. YES. OKAY. ON SLIDE 18 ABOUT THE CASE NUMBER. CAN YOU GIVE ME AN INSTANCE. AND I'M WONDERING WHY THAT'S NOT A MANDATORY FIELD.

SO COULD YOU GIVE ME AN INSTANCE FOR WHEN WE WOULD NEED TO USE THAT AND NO HAVE A CASE NUMBER? IF WE HAVE AN ACTIVE HOMICIDE AND WE HAVE DISPATCH PUT INFORMATION OUT ABOUT A PARTIAL TAG NUMBER, WE ARE GOING TO ENTER THAT AS QUICKLY AS WE POSSIBLY CAN. WE'RE GOING TO ENTER THE PURPOSE AND WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO TRY AND CATCH THIS SUSPECT. AND SO GO AHEAD. SORRY. I THANK YOU FOR THAT. THAT'S A GOOD EXAMPLE. IT'S A CRIME THAT'S CURRENTLY UNDER IN PROGRESS. AND WE DON'T HAVE A CASE NUMBER YET. SO YOU COULDN'T ENTER IT TO USE THE SYSTEM. YES, MA'AM. DO WE WHAT IS OUR POLICY THAT IF WE HAVE A CASE NUMBER WE MUST ENTER IT.

YES. OKAY. AND IS THAT PART OF YOUR AUDIT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S HAPPENING? IT IS OKAY.

146 AGENCIES ON ON SLIDE 16 SURPRISED ME A LITTLE BIT. I KNEW THAT WE WE SHARED WITH OTHER AGENCIES. CAN YOU DIVE INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT? I KNOW THAT YOU SAY YOU AUDIT IT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE KEEPING THAT LIST CURRENT AND WE'RE NOT OVERSHARING THAT THAT JUST WAS A SURPRISING NUMBER TO ME TO HEAR THAT WE'RE SHARING WITH THAT MANY AGENCIES. YEAH. MAY I ASK FOR A LITTLE HELP DOWN THE LINE HERE? BUT I WILL SHARE ON A ON A BROAD PERSPECTIVE IS WE ARE SHARING THAT INFORMATION BECAUSE YOU CAN'T TELL IN THESE FOUR COUNTIES AND THE AND THE CONTIGUOUS COUNTIES AROUND THOSE FOUR THAT I NAMED, YOU CAN'T TELL WHERE ONE CITY LIMIT STOPS AND ANOTHER CITY LIMIT PICKS UP RIGHT NOW IN THE NORTH TEXAS REGION. AND SO THOSE CRIMINALS DO NOT KNOW THOSE DIFFERENCES EITHER. AND SO SHARING THAT INFORMATION, IT'S, IT'S INSTRUMENTAL TO US FIGHTING CRIME BECAUSE. RICHARDSON CRIME DOESN'T STAY JUST IN RICHARDSON. DALLAS CRIME UNFORTUNATELY DOESN'T STAY JUST IN DALLAS AND SO ON AND SO ON AND SO ON. SO ANY HELP DOWN THE LINE TO TO ADDRESS THAT? YES, SIR. IT'S REALLY KIND OF A REGIONAL APPROACH. WHEN WE STARTED LOOKING AT WHO WE SHARE WITH, WE LOOKED AT KIND OF WHAT COG DOES WITHIN THIS REGION AND TRYING TO BECAUSE AS THE CHIEF SAID, THERE'S REALLY NO BOUNDARIES. IT'S ALL REGIONALLY. AND SO JUST TRYING TO STAY ISOLATED, ISOLATED TO THAT. AND YEAH, THERE'S A LOT OF LITTLE CITIES THAT HAVE POPPED UP AROUND THIS REGION THAT WE'RE PARTNERS WITH. YEAH, I APPRECIATE THE EXPLANATION. I THINK THAT IT MAY BE HEARING THAT NUMBER COULD FEED INTO CONCERN ABOUT. I KNOW WE MADE THE COMMENT THAT NOT EVERY MOVE A VEHICLE MAKES IS TRACKED, BUT WHEN WE HAVE THAT MANY AGENCIES, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SORT OF STILL PHOTO IT, WHICH IN SOME WAYS IS THE POINT TO BE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT WHERE A VEHICLE WAS AND TRACK ITS MOVEMENTS TO HELP. BUT THAT, AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SOLVE FOR THAT. I WILL SAY THAT THAT WAS A SURPRISING NUMBER TO ME. AND SO I'M STILL SORT OF SITTING WITH THAT AND TRYING TO, TO UNDERSTAND. I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT IT'S AUDITED AND YOU'RE MAKING SURE THAT THAT THAT NUMBER IS ACCURATE. AND WE'RE SHARING WITH ONLY THE AGENCIES WE NEED TO BE SHARING WITH. SO MORE OF A COMMENT AT THIS TIME. BUT WITH RESPECT TO AUDITING, YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT WE EMBRACE TRANSPARENCY. I THINK THAT THAT'S TRUE OF RPD.

WE HAVE AN ENTIRE TRANSPARENCY PAGE. I'M WONDERING, YOU KNOW, WHEN THIS CAME UP, BEFORE COUNCILMAN CORCORAN HAD THE GOOD IDEA TO TO MAKE AUDIT REPORTS PUBLIC IN SOME WAY, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO, YOU KNOW, OR SOME SORT OF REPORT SHOWING THAT WE'RE COMPLYING WITH OUR OWN POLICIES THAT EVERY MONTH THE YOU KNOW, THE CHIEF IS SIGNING OFF IT OR NOT, IT OCCURRED OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES TO PROVIDE SOME ASSURANCE TO THE PUBLIC THAT THAT'S HAPPENING AND THAT THERE'S OVERSIGHT FOR IT. IS THERE ANYTHING LIKE THAT THAT YOU CAN THINK OF THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO TO ADD TO OUR TRANSPARENCY PAGE TO HELP WITH THAT? I'M CERTAINLY NOT OPPOSED TO THAT. I WILL SHARE WITH YOU THAT WE HAVE EVOLVED ALONG WITH FLOC AS IT RELATES TO OUR POLICY ON ON JUST A SIDE NOTE, EVERY TUESDAY MORNING WE MEET AS THE LEADERS OF THE ORGANIZATION WITH WORK GROUPS IN WHICH WE WANT TO LOOK AT POLICIES. AND IT'S CERTAINLY NOT FLOC SPECIFIC. IT IS EVERY TUESDAY MORNING, AND WE CONTINUALLY EVOLVE IN OUR POLICIES AS IT RELATES TO BEST PRACTICES, ETC. BUT WE HAVE

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ABSOLUTELY. AND WE'LL LOOK INTO THAT. YEAH, I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING GOOD TO GIVE THE PUBLIC SOME COMFORT THAT THESE AUDITS ARE OCCURRING AND THAT SOMEBODY, YOU OR WHOEVER YOUR DESIGNEE IS, IS CERTIFYING THAT THEY'RE OCCURRING ON THE INTERVALS THAT WE'VE REPRESENTED, THAT THEY'RE OCCURRING. I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD. AND I KNOW YOU JUST SAID YOU'VE JUST STARTED TRACKING SORT OF FLOCKS OF USEFULNESS FOR, FOR CRIME FIGHTING PURPOSES, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS TO ONCE WE GET A BETTER HANDLE ON WHAT THAT DATA LOOKS LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, I KNOW YOU'LL COME MAKE A YEARLY PRESENTATION TO US. PERHAPS, PERHAPS WE COULD HAVE THOSE GO HAND IN HAND AGAIN FOR, FOR THE PUBLIC TO REALLY UNDERSTAND THE IF THERE'S IF THE NUMBERS SHOW THAT THERE IS A BENEFIT TO IT, I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL AS WELL. AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION FOR NOW IS HOW DO WE AUDIT FLOCKS COMPLIANCE WITH THE DESTRUCTION OF DATA? I KNOW THAT WE SAY THAT THEY ARE GOING TO GET RID OF IT. WE GET RID OF IT AFTER 30 DAYS. IT'S IN THEIR CLOUD BASED SYSTEM. HOW DO THEY CERTIFY FOR US? OR HOW DO THEY PROVE COMPLIANCE THAT THEY ARE ARE DESTROYING THAT DATA AND NOT HOLDING ON TO IT ANONYMIZED FOR, YOU KNOW, YEARS OR HOWEVER LONG TO, TO TRAIN THEIR STEMS? I'M GOING TO PITCH SOME OF THAT TO BEN OR ANYONE DOWN THE LINE, BUT I WILL ACTUALLY ADDRESS A PORTION OF IT TO ON, ON THE BEGINNING OR ON THE FRONT END. BUT WHEN WE COMPLETE OUR AUDITS, WE WILL TRACK IF ANY BODY FROM FLOCK HAS BEEN INTO OUR SYSTEM SEARCHING THAT THAT IS WHAT THE SYSTEM ALLOWS US TO DO RIGHT NOW. GUYS, DOWN THE LINE, CAN YOU CAN YOU HELP ME EXPAND ON, ON THAT ANSWER? YEAH. SO THE ANONYMIZED DATA, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T TAKE IT AWAY AND UNTRAIN THE AI WITH IT, RIGHT? AND SO IF YOU READ IN THE CONTRACT, IT DOES SAY THAT THEY RETAIN THAT TRAINING ABILITY FOR PERPETUITY. AND THAT IS WHY, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T UNTRAIN IT BY TAKING THAT AWAY AND RING THE BELL. BUT THE ACTUAL DATA, THE ALPR DATA THAT HAS VEHICLE IMAGES, LICENSE PLATE DATA, LOCATION DATA, ALL OF THAT IS GONE AFTER 30 DAYS. DO THEY CERTIFY THAT TO US AS FAR AS CERTIFICATION OF IT? NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. I CAN TELL YOU JUST FROM OUR FROM MY ACCESS AND USE OF THE SYSTEM, THAT THERE IS NO WAY FOR US TO SEARCH IT. AND SO AS FAR AS THE ACTUAL SEEING IT DELETED MYSELF. NO, BUT AND WHILE WE DON'T HAVE THE CERTIFICATION OF IT, THEY ARE CONTRACTUALLY OBLIGATED TO REMOVE IT. RIGHT. I WONDER IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD FOLLOW UP WITH THEM ON TO, TO GET A CERTIFICATION AND ADD THAT TO THE WEBSITE AS WELL.

COUNCIL MEMBER CORCORAN. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. YOU KNOW, I THE I WORK IN RISK AND COMPLIANCE, AND I OFTEN TELL PEOPLE THAT I WORK IN INTERNAL AUDIT, BUT REALLY WHAT THAT IS IS JUST IDENTIFYING RISKS AND THEN IDENTIFYING THE CONTROLS THAT ARE IN PLACE TO PREVENT THOSE RISKS FROM OCCURRING. AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT THAT IS. AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT, I MEAN, ONE OF OUR SPEAKERS GAVE US A REALLY BIG PACKET HERE JUST OF TONS OF DIFFERENT THINGS. AND ONE OF THOSE IS JUST LISTS OF TIMES WHERE FLOC HAS BEEN MISUSED.

BUT WHAT YOU'LL FIND IS THAT A LOT OF THOSE THINGS WERE ACTUALLY UNCOVERED FROM INTERNAL INVESTIGATIONS, LIKE THE ONES YOU ALL ARE UNCOVERING RIGHT NOW, AND APPROPRIATE DISCIPLINARY ACTION HAPPENED. THE OFFICER WAS FIRED. SO REALLY THE INTERNAL AUDIT PIECE IS JUST EXTREMELY CRITICAL. AND IT REALLY IS INCUMBENT UPON THE DEPARTMENT TO GET IT RIGHT. AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF MY QUESTIONS ARE JUST ARE COMING FROM, RIGHT? I MEAN, WHEN IT COMES TO, FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE THE, THE RANDOM MONTHLY AUDITS, I MEAN, WHAT'S THE SAMPLE SIZE THAT YOU USE ON THAT? THAT'S SUPERVISOR DRIVEN. AND WE HAVE NOT SETTLED ON THAT EXACT SAMPLE SIZE FOR THAT. BUT TO YOUR EARLIER COMMENT, THE AI PART OF THE SEARCH WE DO THAT IS GENERATED BY FLOC. AND THE REASON YOU'RE SEEING SO MANY OF THESE REPORTS IN THE NEWS LATELY IS BECAUSE THEY JUST RELEASED THIS A FEW MONTHS AGO. SO AGENCIES STARTED UTILIZING THE TOOLS THAT FLOCK HAS GIVEN THEM, AND WE'RE FINDING THE ANOMALIES AND INVESTIGATING THOSE. AND THAT'S HOW YOU'RE GETTING ALL THESE STORIES. NO, I THINK IT'S IF ANYTHING, IT IN SOME WAYS IT SHOULD BE ENCOURAGING. MAYBE IT DEPENDS ON HOW YOU LOOK AT IT, BUT IT SHOULD BE ENCOURAGING THAT INTERNAL AUDITS ARE DOING THEIR JOB AND CATCHING THE PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING THE WRONG THINGS. RIGHT. YEAH, SURE. IT'S LIKE ANY TOOL. DO YOU MIND TURNING ON YOUR MIC, SIR? SORRY. JUST LIKE ANY TOOL, SOME OFFICERS USE IT FAR MORE THAN THAN

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SO, YOU KNOW, IN THIS PACKET THAT WE HAVE, THERE'S A HYPOTHETICAL OR SEMI HYPOTHETICAL SCENARIO WHERE A FEDERAL AGENCY, IN THIS CASE, ICE, ASKS OFFICERS TO CONDUCT A SEARCH ON THEIR BEHALF. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT SOMEONE COULD. AND IN THAT WAY, IT'S NOT REALLY TRACKED AS A FEDERAL AGENCY IN ACCESSING THE DATA. IT'S SOMEONE FROM OUR DEPARTMENT ACCESSING THE DATA. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT COULD POSSIBLY HAPPEN IN OUR DEPARTMENT? SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION. RIGHT. COULD COULD SOMEONE, I.E. AN EMPLOYEE, AN EYE OFFICER, CIRCUMVENT OUR POLICY AND PRACTICE FOR SOMEONE ELSE ON THEIR BEHALF TO ACCOMPLISH A WORKAROUND TO GAIN INFORMATION? YES. AND IF THEY DID THAT AND THEY PUT LEGITIMATE ENTRIES INTO IT AS IT RELATES TO PURPOSE AND CASE NUMBER, THEN I THINK THAT WOULD BE IDENTIFIED. IF THEY DIDN'T DO THAT, THEN I THINK THAT WOULD BE IDENTIFIED.

ARE CAN PEOPLE DO BAD THINGS? ABSOLUTELY. I MEAN, BUT EVEN IF IT WAS UNWITTINGLY. CHIEF.

RIGHT. SO IF AS PART OF A, A LEGITIMATE, LEGITIMATE INVESTIGATION BY A FEDERAL AGENCY, THEY SAY, HEY, LOOK, WE KNOW YOU ALL HAVE FLOCK. CAN WE CAN SOMEONE JUST LOOK UP AND SEE THIS LICENSE PLATE IN THE SYSTEM? WHAT WHAT DO WE HAVE IN PROCESS IN PLACE TO PREVENT THAT FROM HAPPENING? IF WE'RE SPLITTING HAIRS AND I RECOGNIZE I RECOGNIZE THE NATURE OF YOUR QUESTION. I ABSOLUTELY DO, AND I RESPECT THAT. BUT IF WE ARE WORKING ON A TASK FORCE SUCH AS THE VIOLENT CRIME TASK FORCE FOR THE FBI, AND OUR TASK FORCE OFFICER IS RUNNING THAT TAG, THEN THAT'S RELATIVE TO THE CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION IN WHICH HE OR SHE IS WORKING. THAT MAKES SENSE, I UNDERSTAND. I HOPE I'M ANSWERING THE QUESTION. THERE'S A LOT OF NUANCE. AND YOU ARE. YOU ARE. THANK YOU. MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHENRIDER. THANK YOU, MAYOR CHIEF, GREAT PRESENTATION. A LOT OF GREAT INFORMATION. I APPRECIATE VERY MUCH YOU STATING WHAT THE MYTHS ARE OUT THERE. AND THEN ACTUALLY WHAT THE THE REALITY IS. CAN YOU CATEGORIZE I KNOW YOU SAID YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE US A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES, BUT MY ASSUMPTION IS, IS THAT VIA THE FLOCK CAMERAS THAT WE'VE NOT ONLY DONE, YOU KNOW, I'M LOOKING AT THE TWO THAT YOU'VE GOT UP THERE AS AN EXAMPLE RIGHT NOW, MOTOR VEHICLE AND EXCUSE ME, ONE A PERSON, BUT I'M ASSUMING THAT WE HAVE MADE ARRESTS SINCE WE'VE HAD THE FLOCK SYSTEM ON VIOLENT CRIME ALL THE WAY DOWN TO, I'LL SAY SOME SIMPLE BURGLARY AND AND HELP ME. I MEAN, THAT MAY NOT BE THE BEST WAY TO SAY IT, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY. SO, BUT IT'S IT'S ASSISTED US AS A TOOL ALL THE WAY UP TO VIOLENT, VIOLENT CRIMES. IS THAT A IS THAT A FAIR STATEMENT? THAT IS A VERY FAIR STATEMENT. AND AT A POINT IN TIME WHEN YOU'RE READY, I WILL ASK CHIEF BUTCHER TO GO THROUGH A PORTION OF A LIST OF THAT CONTENT. OKAY. AND I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO

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ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YES, SIR. CHIEF, I THINK I THINK YOU DID NOT ANSWER THE FIRST QUESTION THAT COUNCIL HUTCHENRIDER ASKED. HE WAS ASKING FOR SOME SPECIFIC EXAMPLES. AND I THINK WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THE PRIVACY CONCERNS, FIRST AMENDMENT AND SPECIFICALLY FOURTH AMENDMENT CONCERNS. BUT THE QUESTION THAT UNTIL JUST NOW HAS NOT BEEN ASKED IS WHETHER THIS TOOL IS ACTUALLY EFFECTIVE OR NOT. NOW, WE CAN SURMISE THAT IT IS BECAUSE THE VAST MAJORITY OF CITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY AND OTHER ENTITIES ARE, ARE PURCHASING THIS PRODUCT BECAUSE THEY MUST BE GETTING SOME RESULT. SO I THINK IT NOW WOULD BE A GOOD TIME TO TALK ABOUT THOSE RESULTS. AND, AND AS WE CONTINUE TO GAUGE THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THIS, OF THIS TOOL VERSUS THE CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE THAT WE'VE HEARD TONIGHT, CHIEF TITTLE IS CORRECT THAT THERE ISN'T A COMPREHENSIVE LIST OF ALL THE CRIMES THAT FLOC HAS HELPED TO SOLVE BY, BY PROVIDING INVESTIGATIVE LEADS, BUT WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD LIST OF CASES IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS THAT WE PUT TOGETHER.

LIKE I SAID, IT'S NOT ALL INCLUSIVE, AND I DO WANT TO MAKE IT KNOWN THAT THE INVESTIGATIVE LEADS IN THIS TYPE OF SITUATION, LIKE ANYTHING ELSE, THESE THESE

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ANOTHER ONE WAS USED TO ID A VEHICLE THAT RAN OVER THE VICTIM, WHICH TURNED OUT TO BE A CAPITAL MURDER CASE WITH A VICTIM ENDED UP BEING DIED FROM BEING RUN OVER MORE THAN ONCE.

THE FLOCK ID WAS ALSO USED IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE OFFENSE TO OBTAIN PICTURES OF THE SHOOTING ON THE SUSPECT. ANOTHER ONE WAS USED TO IDENTIFY MULTIPLE SUSPECTS IN A SHOOTING INCIDENT IN THE CITY. SEVERAL MORE HERE JUST LISTED AS THEFT. MULTIPLE SUSPECTS LOCATED IN A LARGE SCALE AUTO THEFT RING. SUSPECT IN A MISSIN PERSON CASE, WHICH TURNED OUT TO BE A MURDER CASE AT THE TIME THAT IT WAS REPORTED TO US. IT WAS JUST A MISSING PERSON CASE, BUT FLOCK INFORMATION HELPED WITH THAT. USE OF FLOCK WAS USED TO BUILD A HUMAN TRAFFICKING, COMPELLING PROSTITUTION CASE. USE OF FLOCK WAS USED TO BUILD A CASE AGAINST SERIAL BURGLARS. ANOTHER ONE WAS USED TO HELP SOLVE A CASE IN BOTH GARLAND AND IN RICHARDSON. REGARDING NARCOTICS. THERE WERE SEVERAL MORE. WE GOT ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE MISSING PERSON CASES THAT FLOCK SIX SEVEN MISSING PERSON CASES WHERE FLOCK USED TO HELP LOCATE THOSE FOLKS. ANOTHER ONE WHERE THE FLOCK WAS USED TO HELP LOCATE A MURDER SUSPECT WHO WAS INITIALLY REPORTED AS A MISSING PERSON, USED TO LOCATED A MISSING JUVENILES, LATER TURNED OUT TO BE HUMAN TRAFFICKING CASE. I BELIEVE THAT ONE WAS OUT OF HOUSTON, BUT I'M NOT POSITIVE ON THAT. TWO MORE MISSING PERSON CASES. ONE OUT OF ARLINGTON, ONE OUT OF SAXY WHERE WE LOCATED SOME FOLKS. ARMORED CAR ROBBERY, WHICH WAS USED BY ONE OF OUR FOLKS, ONE OF OUR DETECTIVES ASSIGNED TO FBI TASK FORCE. HE USED A LEAD FROM A PARTICULAR CASE. THAT'S ANOTHER ACTIVE PENDING CASE IN FEDERAL COURT. BUT HE USED A LEAD HE DEVELOPED THROUGH FLOCK TO LOCATE A POTENTIAL SUSPECT. THAT SUSPECT HAD SHOT AN ARMORED CAR GUARD TWICE IN THE HEAD. AND SO THAT SUSPECT WAS LOCATED IN RESULT OF THAT, USE OF LOCK WAS USED TO BUILD AN ORGANIZED CASE AGAINST AN ORGANIZED THEFT CREW. ANOTHER ONE TO BUILD A CASE AGAINST AN ADULT SUSPECT STALKING A 16 YEAR OLD FEMALE. YET ANOTHER CASE WHERE YOU. THE ID WAS USED TO LOCATE A SUSPECT INVOLVED IN AN AGGRAVATED SEXUAL ASSAULT AND AGGRAVATED ROBBERY, AND AGGRAVATED KIDNAPING FOR BODILY INJURY CASE. ANOTHER ONE WAS ARSON CASE, WHERE THEY USED A SUSPECT ON CAMERAS FROM A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES FOR AN OFFENSE THAT ACTUALLY OCCURRED IN RICHARDSON. IN OTHER WORDS, DIFFERENT AGENCIES THAT WE SHARE INFORMATION WITH WERE ABLE TO GET THAT SEVERAL MORE HERE FOR STOLEN VEHICLES, LOTS OF STOLEN VEHICLES, STOLEN LICENSE PLATES, STOLEN VEHICLES IS A IS ONE THAT YOU'LL SEE OVER AND OVER AGAIN. BERG BUSINESS COPPER THEFT SUSPECT WAS USED WAS USED FOR DEADLY CONDUCT CASE WHERE THEY USE FLOCK IMAGES TO HELP LOCATE A SUSPECT MISSING PERSON CASE WAS ACTIVELY TRACED AND THE PERSON WAS SAFELY RETURNED HOME. MORE STOLEN VEHICLE CASES. ARREST AND ROBBERY OFFENSE. STOLEN VEHICLE OCCUPIED BY A HOMICIDE SUSPECT. THAT PERSON WAS CAPTURED USING FLOCK TECHNOLOGY. AGGRAVATED ROBBERY. SUSPECT VEHICLE IDENTIFIED AND STOPPED.

SUSPECT CONFESSED TO THE CRIMES. ANOTHER CASE INVOLVING AN INDECENT EXPOSURE SUSPECT WHERE HE WAS LOCATED AND ARRESTED. BANK ROBBERY SUSPECT WAS IDENTIFIED DUE TO FLOCK SCANS.

ARKANSAS PAROLE VIOLATION WARRANT FOR ROBBERY AND WARRANT FOR AGGRAVATED ASSAULT, FAMILY ARREST SUSPECT AND A COUPLE MORE INDECENCY WITH A CHILD WARRANT ARREST, SEXUAL PERFORMANCE UNDER CHILD WARRANT ARREST AND A ONE OUT OF FORT WORTH PD. REQUEST ASSISTANCE WITH A FRESH AGGRAVATED ROBBERY AND THE SUSPECT WAS LOCATED AND ARRESTED BY RPD. SO THOSE ARE SOME EXAMPLES THERE. CHIEF OF OF SUCCESSES USING THE FLOCK CAMERA SYSTEM IN THE LAST PROBABLY TWO AND A HALF YEARS. THANKS, MIKE. CHIEF, I'VE GOT A FEW QUESTIONS AND I KNOW WE'LL HAVE A SECOND ROUND OF QUESTIONS HERE, BUT I'M CURIOUS ON SLIDE 13. WELL, LET ME

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AND YOU HAVE THAT MANY MORE THAN MAYBE THE ITEMIZED LIST, BECAUSE PERHAPS THE SAME LICENSE PLATE WAS PICKED UP A FEW TIMES, OR WHAT WOULD THAT MAJOR DISCREPANCY BE? READ IT EXACTLY RIGHT. OKAY, COOL. SO THAT'S JUST MULTIPLE READINGS OF THE SAME. OKAY, HELPFUL. SO JUST KIND OF GOING THROUGH SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU SPOKE ABOUT AND WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT I KIND OF UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT WHEN WE'RE SHARING WITH ANOTHER CITY. SO YOU MENTIONED 100 PLUS OR SO MUNICIPALITIES, MAYBE SOME COUNTY, OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES THAT ARE HERE LOCALLY IN THAT FOUR COUNTY AREA WHEN WE'RE SHARING WITH THEM, AND LET'S SAY THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT POLICY THAN WE DO, AND THEY SHARE WITH THE WORLD OR ANY OTHER GROUP THAT MAYBE WE DON'T SHARE WITH THE WORLD IS A SILLY EXAMPLE, BUT YOU GET THE POINT THROUGH THAT. ARE THE OTHER ENTITIES ABLE TO SEE WHAT THOSE 140 SOME ODD ENTITIES CAN SEE OF OURS? THEN HELP ME OUT ON THAT, PLEASE. ABSOLUTELY. SHORT ANSWER. NO, SIR. OKAY. THEY WERE ABLE TO SHARE OUR DATA AND ONLY THE AGENCIES THAT WE SHARE OUR DATA WITH ARE ABLE TO USE OURS IF THEY SHARE THEIR DATA WITH OUTSIDE AGENCIES. THAT IS TOTALLY SEPARATE FM OUR 20 CAMERAS. PERFECT. JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I HAVE CLARIFICATION. IT'S NOT A PASS THROUGH. GOT IT. IF THAT'S DID WANT TO MAKE SURE JUST TO JUST TO UNDERSTAND. YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT I KIND OF THINK THROUGH HERE A LITTLE BIT IS. YOU KNOW, THE FLOCK EMPLOYEE MISUSE SITUATION. SO I THINK I DID HEAR THAT EVEN WHEN FLOCK EMPLOYEES HYPOTHETICALLY WOULD UTILIZE OUR DATA, WE WOULD HAVE A READOUT ON THAT. AND IT COULD HYPOTHETICALLY BE CAUGHT IN THE AUDITS. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT WOULD BE REFLECTED IN AN AUDIT HERE.

OKAY. YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M KIND OF CURIOUS ABOUT BECAUSE TECHNOLOGY AND YOU'VE AS MUCH AS SAID IT, BUT TECHNOLOGY DOES EVOLVE. AND ALTHOUGH TODAY, AT LEAST WHAT IT'S SENDING US ALERTS ON HAPPENS TO BE THE LICENSE PLATE ITSELF, WHETHER OR NOT THAT VIDEO DATA CAN BEGIN TO BE USED IN DIFFERENT WAYS. IT CONTINUES TO ALERT US A CERTAIN WAY, BUT IT MAY BE UTILIZED IN A DIFFERENT WAY BY FLOCK ITSELF. SO AT SOME LEVEL, AND I KNOW WE DID HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THE CONTRACT, BUT I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S IN THE CONTRACT ITSELF.

AND PERHAPS THAT'S GOING TO BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US, EITHER IN EXECUTIVE SESSION OR OTHERWISE, TO UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT LIABILITY THERE OR WHAT OUR RECOURSE TO FLOCK IS IF THEY USE THE DATA DIFFERENTLY THAN WHAT THEY PURPORT TO US THAT THEY THAT THEY USE IT AS. SO THAT'S NOT A LEGAL QUESTION AT THIS MOMENT, BUT IT JUST JUST TO CUE YOU THAT AT SOME POINT THAT MIGHT BE A QUESTION THAT I'D BE CURIOUS ABOUT TRYING TO KIND OF GET TO THE BOTTOM OF BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S ONLY A MATTER OF SLIGHT EVOLUTION OF DATA HANDLING TO BE ABLE TO BEGIN DOING THINGS THAT WE MAY NOT WANT PEOPLE TO DO WITH, WITH THE VIDEO. THE ACCESSING, DOWNLOADING AND KEEPING BEYOND 30 DAYS. SO I'M A LITTLE BIT CURIOUS ABOUT, LET'S SAY THERE'S AN AGENCY THAT HAS ACCESS TO OUR DATA BECAUSE THEY'RE ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORING AGENCIES. LET'S SAY. I'M CURIOUS ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT, AND AGAIN, THIS MAY BE AN IT QUESTION, BUT WHETHER OR NOT THOSE OTHER ENTITIES HAVE THE ABILITY, IF THEY WANTED TO, TO RECORD THAT DATA THEMSELVES IN HOUSE, MEANING THEY'RE CAPTURING REAL TIME DATA FROM RICHARDSON, AND NOW THEY'RE KEEPING THAT DATA IN THEIR OWN PRIVATE SERVERS, LET'S SAY. SO I'D BE CURIOUS IF THERE'S ANY CONTEMPLATION OF THAT AS A CONCERN. YES, SIR. YES, SIR. SO THEY WOULD HAVE THERE'S NO WAY FOR THEM TO STREAM DIRECTLY THE ALL OF THE LIVE INFORMATION BEING COLLECTED FROM OUR CAMERAS. THEY WOULD HAVE TO DO A MANUAL SEARCH OF EVERY LICENSE PLATE TO GET THAT INFORMATION. AND NOW YEAH, THEY WOULD HAVE TO DO THAT. AND THAT WOULD BE FLAGGED BY OUR AUDITS. OKAY. THAT'S HELPFUL TO KNOW.

SO I KNOW I THINK YOU CALLED IT THE HOT LIST, WHICH I, WHICH I HAD EXPLAINED TO ME PREVIOUSLY.

AND IT'S A, IT'S A PRETTY GREAT TOOL FOR OUR INTERNAL USE FOR SURE. ARE, ARE THE OTHER AGENCIES ABLE TO CREATE A HOT LIST THAT WOULD TAP INTO OUR DATA AS WELL? THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO CREATE A HOT LIST ON THEIR DATA, NOT ON ONLY ON THEIR DATA. SO LITTLE CAVEAT TO

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SO HAVE WE ALLOWED ANOTHER AGENT TO DATE? HAVE WE ALLOWED ANOTHER AGENCY TO CREATE A HOT LIST AND FUNCTION IN OUR SYSTEM? NO. ANOTHER AGENT. SO WE DO NOT ALLOW OTHER AGENCIES HOT LISTS IN OUR SYSTEM. OKAY, SO THEY'RE LOOKING FOR A STOLEN VEHICLE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. OTHER THAN THE IMMEDIATE SEARCH, THE ONE SEARCH YOU WOULDN'T IT WOULDN'T SHOW UP ON A HOT LIST SEARCH LIKE A FUTURE PING UNTIL THEY ACTUALLY TYPE IT AGAIN. IS THAT RIGHT? YES. OKAY, OKAY. I THINK, I THINK I THINK EASILY SAID, WE ARE NOT ALLOWING OTHER AGENCIES TO CREATE A HOT LIST AND THEN IMPORT THAT INTO OUR SYSTEM TO FUNCTION LIKE OUR HOT LIST. WE'RE NOT ALLOWING THAT. NO, NO, NO. OKAY, I'M GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT COUNCIL PERSON. I BELIEVE COUNCIL MEMBER ARFIN HAD HIS LIGHT ON NEXT. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. YEAH. THIS IS THANKS FOR THE LAST QUESTION.

CLARIFICATION I THINK THEN OTHERWISE YOU WOULD BE LIKE CIRCLING AROUND LOOKING FOR WORKING FOR SOME OTHER ENTITY ALL THE TIME. SO THAT MAKES SENSE. YOU KNOW, I DID SOME GOOGLE SEARCH. CITY OF DALLAS PROBABLY HAS OVER 500 CAMERAS. CITY OF CARROLLTON, FRISCO, THEY ALL HAVE HUNDREDS OF CAMERAS. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE PERCENTAGES, WE ARE NOT EVEN PROBABLY 2% OR 1% OF THE TOTAL NUMBER JUST IN THIS METROPLEX. AND THEY ARE ALL STATIONARY.

IT'S NOT. NOTHING IS MOVING. AND WE ARE SURROUNDED BY ALL THE HIGHWAYS ALL OVER. SO BASICALLY, I GUESS, AND THOSE FLOCK CAMERAS, THOSE ARE PUBLIC RECORDS WHERE THOSE ARE STATIONED. IF YOU SEARCH THE FLOCK HOPPERS, YOU CAN SEE THOSE CAMERAS. WHERE ARE THOSE? AND I SEE THAT WE HAVE 53 CAMERAS THAT DOES NOT BELONG. 33 THAT DOES NOT BELONG TO CITY OF RICHARDSON. SO WE HAVE TOTAL. 53 THAT'S AS FAR AS THE PUBLIC INFORMATION AND. AND THEY CAN SHARE THEIR DATA WITH ANY ENTITY THEY WANT, WHATEVER THEY WANT. WE HAVE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WE CAN SAY ABOUT THOSE. IS THAT MY CORRECT MY UNDERSTANDING. THAT IS CORRECT.

YES. AND DON, OUR COUNCIL CAN REALLY DO ANYTHING. STOP SHARING, YOU KNOW, HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER THOSE PRIVATE ENTITIES. SO, SO AS OF TODAY, YOU KNOW, YOU JUST HAVE 20. BUT THEN THERE IS LIKE 33 THAT'S INSIDE THE CITY PROPERTY, NOT INSIDE THE CITY LIMIT, NOT ALONG THE HIGHWAY. THEY HAVE THOSE THINGS AND THEY CAN REPORT THOSE THINGS AS THEY GO.

SO NOW. NOW THE GOAL IS LIKE, YOU KNOW, THIS CAN BE USED, THIS CAN BE MISUSED BECAUSE THIS IS THE NEW THINGS WE ARE JUST TRYING TO I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND MYSELF TOO. SO IF

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OKAY. AND THEN ALL OF OUR OUR INTERNAL AUDITS, TO WHAT EXTENT CAN RESIDENTS ASK FOR AND RECEIVE THOSE AUDIT RESULTS? SCRUB NOT SCRUBBED, WHATEVER. SCRUB NOT SCRUBBED. I WOULD BELIEVE THAT THAT WOULD BE THAT WOULD FALL UNDER OUR OPEN RECORDS REQUEST. OKAY. WHAT ARE AGENCIES THAT HAVE PERMISSION TO ACCESS OUR DATA? ARE THEY EVER REMOVED, OR WOULD THERE BE A SITUATION WHERE THAT AGENCY WOULD BE REMOVED? I'M SURE THERE WOULD BE. WE HAVE ACTUALLY SIZED DOWN FROM WHERE WE STARTED. AND SO JUST FROM THAT SHEER REMOVAL, WE LIKE

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OKAY. SO LET'S SAY, YOU KNOW, BURLINGTON, IOWA IS ONE OF THOSE CITIES WE DO SHARE WITH.

IS THAT SOMETHING WE COULD ADD TO POLICE TRANSPARENCY PAGE, ASSUMING IT'S NOT ON THERE? AND I DIDN'T CHECK IF IT WAS ON THERE. SO I APOLOGIZE IF AHEAD OF TIME, IF IT WAS ALREADY. THE.

I WANT TO CLARIFY, THERE WAS A QUESTION THE MAYOR ASKED ABOUT THE HOT LIST. I WANT TO CLARIFY.

LET'S SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, I AM THE CHIEF OF POLICE IN DANVILLE, AND I HAVE A VEHICLE THAT I PUT ON A HOT LIST BECAUSE IT WAS SUSPECTED OF A CRIME IN MY COMMUNITY. IF THAT VEHICLE DRIVES TO RICHARDSON, TEXAS, AND IT'S ON MY HOT LIST, IT AUTOMATICALLY FLAGS CORRECT. S I GET A FLAG. IF THAT VEHICLE IS IN DANVILLE, IT'S ON MY HOT LIST AND IT DRIVES TO RICHARDSON, TEXAS, SAY IN DANVILLE IN KANSAS. AND AND IT DRIVES TO RICHARDSON, TEXAS.

THEN IT NOTIFIES ME THAT IT DROVE TO RICHARDSON, TEXAS. IS THAT HOW HOT THIS WORK? I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND. SO THE HOT LIST WOULD ONLY THAT AGENCY, THAT OFFICER WHO HAS THAT HOT LIST WOULD ONLY BE NOTIFIED IF WE SHARED. CORRECT. IF WE SHARE DATA WITH THEM. SO SO DANVILLE, KANSAS MADE UP TOWN. THERE. IT SHARES DATA WITH RICHARDSON, TEXAS. AND THIS THIS CAR THAT'S A SUSPECT AT A CRIME IN MY COMMUNITY DRIVES TO RICHARDSON, TEXAS. I GET FLAGGED IF IT IT COULD YES SIR. IT HAS THE CAPABILITY TO DO THAT. AND DOES IT FLAG RICHARDSON TEXAS LET THEM KNOW THAT THAT VEHICLE IS WANTED IN MY TOWN OR NO, NO. OKAY. NO.

AND I WILL SAY, AND UNLESS THERE'S AN ACTIVE WARRANT RIGHT THERE, IF THERE IS AN ACTIVE FELONY WARRANT THAT HAS BEEN ENTERED ON NCIC, THEN IT WOULD ALERT. BUT WHAT DIFFERENTIATES THAT IS NOT THE HOT LIST, IT'S THE NCIC HIT IS WHAT WOULD DIFFERENTIATE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER AND THE HOW MANY LOGINS IT WAS MENTIONED. IT WAS WE WE AS AND I DON'T REMEMBER, I THINK WE'RE ABOUT 170 PLUS OR -26 ONE. WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT UNIFORMED OFFICERS. OH I'M SORRY. SOMEWHERE AROUND 17173 IS OUR ALLOCATED NUMBER. WE'RE DOWN TEN. RIGHT. OKAY. SO SO 163 CURRENTLY ACTIVE IN OUR PD. DOES EVERY PERSON HAVE A LOGIN? IS THIS CHIEF SERGEANT

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SO ANY EMPLOYEE THAT CONDUCTS FLOC SEARCHES, THEIR SUPERVISOR IS REQUIRED TO DO A RANDOM AUDIT OF THEIR SEARCHES. AND THEN ADDITIONALLY, WE HAVE THE AI FLAGGER FOR ANY SEARCH PATTERNS THAT IT DEEMS SUSPICIOUS AND REQUIRE EXTRA REVIEW. AND THAT MONITORS EVERY SEARCH CONDUCTED BY OUR AGENCY, REGARDLESS OF YOUR ASSIGNMENT OR PURPOSE, REASON, ANYTHING.

IT'S LOOKING FOR ANYTHING THAT IT THINKS MIGHT REQUIRE SOME EXTRA EYES. OKAY. AND TO CLARIFY A LITTLE BIT, NOBODY CAN RUN AN AUDIT UNTIL WE SET UP AN ACCOUNT FOR THAT PERSON.

SO THERE'S NOT A NEW EMPLOYEE CAN'T RUN ANYTHING UNTIL BEN SETS UP AN ACCOUNT FOR THEM. SO WE HAVE THAT CONTRACT. OKAY, I KNOW EARLIER THERE WAS A QUESTION, I DON'T REMEMBER WHO ASKED IT ABOUT AI. I READ SOMETHING EARLIER THAT WHILE AI ISN'T BEING USED, I. I BELIEVE THAT THERE IS. FLOC IS CURRENTLY USING CLOTHING IDENTIFIERS. ANY THOUGHTS OR COMMENTS OR ARE YOU AWARE THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, IF I'M DRIVING WEARING GLASSES, YOU KNOW, ALTHOUGH IT MAY NOT IDENTIFY THAT IT MAY IDENTIFY ME BY MY CLOTHING. THIS IS STUFF THAT FLOC HAS ADMITTED TO. YES. THAT'S NEWS TO ME. BEN. DO YOU KNOW MORE ABOUT THAT? BECAUSE I DON'T SO I CAN. SO WITH OUR CAMERAS AND I KNOW THAT THERE THERE WAS COMMENT EARLIER ABOUT THE VIDEO OF THE CAMERAS. WE DO NOT HAVE VIDEO CAMERAS. ALL OF OUR CAMERAS ARE MOTION ACTIVATED STILL CAMERAS. SO THEY ARE NOT CAPABLE OF TAKING A STREAMING VIDEO AT ALL. AND THE IMAGES THAT THEY TAKE, THEY ARE ALL DESIGNED FACING THE REAR OF THE CAMERA OR THE REAR OF THE VEHICLE. I'M SORRY. AND SO AFTER THE VEHICLE DRIVES PAST THE CAMERA, IT IS A MOTION ACTIVATION THAT TRIGGERS THE PICTURE TO BE TAKEN. SO ALL PICTURES ARE TAKEN. SO YES. SO IT'S ALL PICTURES TAKEN FROM THE REAR. AND SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION OF AS FAR AS VEHICLE CHARACTERISTICS OR VEHICLE DRIVER CHARACTERISTICS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THAT IS SIMPLY IT'S NOT PICTURED. IT'S NOT IN THE PICTURE. MAYOR. I'M DONE WITH MY TIME. SO I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS. BUT IF I GET AN OPPORTUNITY LATER, I HAVE A COMMENT OR TWO. COUNCIL MEMBER DORIAN. THANK YOU, MAYOR. CHIEF, I JUST A COUPLE OTHER THINGS THAT WERE ASKED. I WANT TO MAKE SURE FOR THE RECORD, AS AS THE VEHICLES PASS THROUGH WHERE THE FLOCK CAMERAS ARE, DOES IT TAKE EVERY SINGLE PHOTOGRAPH OF EVERY LICENSE PLATE OR IS IT JUST IS IT STREAM OR FLAG ONES THAT ARE UNDER. WELL, I'LL CALL IT THE HOT LIST FOR NOW, BUT DOES IT TAKE A PICTURE OF EVERYONE'S LICENSE PLATE? YES, SIR. AND GENERATES THAT. AND THEN IN THE EVENT THAT THERE ARE NO INDIVIDUALS ON A HOT LIST AFTER 30 DAYS, THAT'S DELETED. BUT THOSE CARS ARE THOSE VEHICLES CONTINUE TO RUN THROUGH ALL THE CITIES. THEY'RE STILL YOU'RE STILL CAPTURING THAT DATA, INFORMATION AND THE EVENT THAT INDIVIDUAL OR THAT VEHICLE BECOMES A HOT LIST INDIVIDUAL. CORRECT. THE INFORMATION THAT IS CAPTURED TODAY IS DELETED IN 30 DAYS. THE PHOTOS ARE TAKEN OF EVERY VEHICLE THAT GOES THROUGH THE LANES OF TRAVEL IN WHICH THAT CAMERA IS FOCUSED ON, OKAY. AND AS THAT DATA IS COLLECTED ON THE ON OUR FLOCK SERVER, I ASKED THIS EARLIER, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY IT AGAIN BECAUS IT'S, IT'S, IT'S BEEN ASKED ON ANOTHER OTHER REQUESTS. AND I KNOW THAT AND I KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT USING AI AT THE MOMENT. I GUESS WE'RE NOT USING AI, BUT IT PULLED UP ON FLOCK AND THAT INFORMATION IS STORED IN THE CLOUD. I MEAN, EVENTUALLY THAT POTENTIALLY COULD BE USED FOR, FOR AI PURPOSES. I MEAN, IS BUT IT WILL BE DELETED WITHIN 30 DAYS UNLESS WE SAVE IT BASED ON THE CRIMINAL ONGOING CASE FOR PROSECUTION. SO DOES THAT MAKE DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION A BIT? I'M JUST TRYING TO ANSWER THIS OR TRY TO GET THE ANSWERS FOR THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE EMAILED ME. SO THEY AS THEY'RE WATCHING TONIGHT, THEY CAN ABSOLUTELY HEAR ME ANSWER ASKING THESE QUESTIONS ON HOW I THINK THE, THE CONCERN HERE FROM THE, THE INDIVIDUALS ASKING IS ONCE THE DATA IS COLLECTED AND AS AI IS, YOU KNOW, BECOMING MORE PREVALENT,

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THERE'S A COMMENT IN HERE ON UNDER RESOURCES. IT SAYS FLOCK SAFETY AND TEXAS SHERIFF CLAIM LICENSE PLATE SEARCH WAS FOR A MISSING PERSON, BUT IN FACT, IT WAS FOR AN ABORTION INVESTIGATION. HOW DO WE FLAG? I MEAN, HOW WOULD SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPEN IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE? IS THAT SOMETHING WE PUT IN OUR DATA AS WE PICK UP? WE PUT IN THAT.

ABSOLUTELY NOT. OKAY. ABSOLUTELY NOT. SO I'M JUST WONDERING WHY THAT STATEMENT WAS MADE. I'M JUST TRYING TO GET CLARIFICATION ON THE PERSON THAT ASKED. YEAH, I DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS OF WHAT THE CASE THAT YOU'RE ALLUDING TO OR REFERENCING. THERE MAY BE SOME KNOWLEDGE DOWN THE LINE ON THAT PARTICULAR INCIDENT, BUT THERE IS NOWHERE IN THERE FOR FOR THAT TO BE FLAGGED. OKAY. I'M JUST TRYING TO WE USE IT. WE USE IT FOR THE CRIMINAL PURPOSES OF FIGHTING CRIME. OKAY, PERFECT. WELL, THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING THAT, I APPRECIATE IT. MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHENRIDER. THANK YOU, MAYOR, I TWO QUICK QUESTIONS. ONE CLARIFICATION. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE TO THE TO THE PICTURE THAT SHOWS THE WHAT THE CAMERA TAKES BECAUSE I WANT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS IS PERFECTLY 100% CLEAR. SO THAT'S WHAT'S SHOWN. THERE'S NOT DRIVERS NOT IDENTIFIED. THERE'S NO I MEAN, IT IS JUST PURELY THE BACK OF THE VEHICLE. AND OBVIOUSLY YOU BLACKED OUT THE LICENSE PLATE JUST SO IT WASN'T SHOWN. BUT THAT'S WHAT YOU WOULD SEE. YOU'D SEE THE LICENSE PLATE AND THE BLACK VEHICLE. SO YOU'D KNOW THAT WAS IF MY EYES ARE NOT THAT GOOD ANYMORE, I THINK IT SAYS TOYOTA. SO YOU'D BE IT WOULD BE LIKE A TOYOTA. I THINK MAYBE THAT'S A FOUR RUNNER OR WHATEVER. YES, SIR. BLACK. THE LICENSE PLATE. THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE. THAT'S WHAT YOU COLLECT, CORRECT? THAT IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. OKAY. I WANT TO MAKE SURE I CLARIFY THAT, BECAUSE EVERYBODY WANTS TO KEEP GOING BACK TO THIS IDEA THAT WE'RE SOMEHOW COLLECTING PERSONAL DRIVER INFORMATION AND ALL THE REST OF THAT. SO THAT'S QUESTION NUMBER ONE. QUESTION NUMBER TWO, YOU SAID, I THINK YOU SAID 173 AGENCIES THAT WERE WORKING WITH 143. WHAT WAS THAT NUMBER? 146146 CAN YOU TELL ME, ARE THOSE WITHIN OUR REGION AND WITHIN THE STATE OF TEXAS, ONLY WITHIN OUR REGION, WITHIN THE STATE OF TEXAS, AND SPECIFICALLY WITHIN OUR REGION, AS WELL AS THE FBI AND THE U.S.

POSTAL SERVICE? SO JUST TO CLARIFY, WE'RE NOT CONNECTED TO NEBRASKA OR ANY OTHER ANY OTHER STATE. IT'S JUST OUR REGION, FBI AND THE AND THE U.S. POSTAL SERVICE, US POSTAL SERVICE.

THAT'S IT? YES, SIR. OKAY, PERFECT. MR. HUTCHENRIDER TO ADD TO THAT, IN TEXAS, THERE'S APPROXIMATELY 2740 LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES IN TEXAS ALONE. SO OUR 146 I'M NO MATHEMATICIAN, A LITTLE OVER 5% OF WHO WE'RE SHARING INFORMATION WITH. SO. OKAY, PERFECT. LAST QUESTION. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS FOR YOU, CHIEF OR FOR SERGEANT MASTERS. CAN YOU GO TO THE SCREEN WHERE YOU ENTER THE INFORMATION IN FLOCK? RIGHT THERE? THAT INVESTIGATIVE SCREEN, IS THAT THE STANDARD SCREEN FROM FLOCK THAT ALL AGENCIES USE, OR IS THAT A SPECIFIC SCREEN THAT WE'VE SET UP IN RICHARDSON? BECAUSE IF YOU NOTE IT SAYS OFFENSE TYPE, THERE'S A RED ASTERISK AND IT SAYS REQUIRED FIELD REASON ASTERISK AND A REQUIRED DO YOU KNOW, IS THAT THE STANDARD FLOCK SCREEN THAT IS STANDARD FLOCK SCREEN. SO EVERY AGENCY, THE 146 AGENCIES HAVE THAT EXACT SAME SCREEN. SO THEY HAVE TO ENTER THE OFFENSE TYPE. AND THE SEARCH REASON, THOSE ARE DEFINITELY ASTERISKS. AND THEN THE CASE NUMBER THAT OBVIOUSLY WOULD BE BASED ON THEIR THEIR POLICY, I GUESS, AND TO YOUR POINT, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S OCCURRING IMMEDIATELY, I THINK SERGEANT MASTERS WANTS TO ELABORATE A LITTLE, PLEASE. YES, SIR. SO JUST TO PROVIDE SOME CLARITY, THE THIS IS THE GENERIC FLOCK SCREEN. EACH

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE. THANK YOU. MAYOR, JUST A COMMENT. I THINK, CHIEF, YOUE HEARD TONIGHT A SPIRIT OF CONCERN ABOUT POTENTIAL MISUSE OF THIS TECHNOLOGY AND BALANCING CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS. SOME OF WHAT I'VE SAID AND WHAT COUNCILMAN CORCORAN SAID ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE AS TRANSPARENT ABOUT THIS AS WE POSSIBLY CAN BE TO MAINTAIN PUBLIC TRUST, WHICH I KNOW IS A COMMITMENT YOU'VE MADE TO US AND HOLD TRUE ON THAT IS MY FEEDBACK TO YOU TONIGHT AND MY DIRECTIVE. YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU COME GIVE YOUR YEARLY PRESENTATION TO US, I IMAGINE THIS IS GOING TO BE A TOPIC THAT COMES UP EVERY TIME NOW THAT YOU COME TALK TO US, BECAUSE IT IS A COMMUNITY CONCERN. AND SO I THINK THE PRESENTATION YOU'VE DONE TONIGHT, I WAS READING THROUGH THE COMMENTS THAT WERE SUBMITTED TO US AND LISTENING TO THE FOLKS TONIGHT, A LOT OF WHAT YOU HAVE ADDRESSED, YOU KNOW, THE MYTH VERSUS FACT THAT WAS VERY HELPFUL. I THINK UNDERSTANDING HOW WE BALANCE. AUDITING AND CONTROLS AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS INTERNALLY IS ALSO VERY IMPORTANT TO ENSURE IT'S NOT MISUSED. AND SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN TONIGHT IS, IS, AS COUNCILMAN CORCORAN POINTED OUT, WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT OUR POLICY IS. WE NEED TO PUT THE POLICY ON OUR TRANSPARENCY WEBSITE, AND THEN WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN ASSURE THE PUBLIC THAT THESE AUDITS ARE HAPPENING IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE POLICY.

I THINK YOU DO A GOOD JOB OF THAT IN OTHER AREAS, AND THAT WOULD BE MY FEEDBACK TONIGHT, IS THAT IF WE WANT TO MAINTAIN USING THIS AND MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY FEELS COMFORTABLE THAT IT'S BEING PROPERLY USED, THOSE THAT THAT IS MY FEEDBACK TO YOU. MY DIRECTIVE TO YOU IS TO PLEASE DEVELOP A POLICY AROUND, YOU KNOW, HOW THIS TECHNOLOGY WILL BE USED AND ACCESSED, PUBLISH THAT POLICY AND AND THEN PUBLISH CERTIFICATIONS OF, OF AUDITS THAT ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THAT POLICY. I THINK THAT THIS IS A GOOD CRIME FIGHTING TOOL.

I DO THINK THAT THERE'S A LOT TO BALANCE HERE. AND I THINK THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO TO GO ABOUT THIS, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC FEELS COMFORTABLE, THAT IT'S NOT BEING MISUSED AND IT'S BEING USED FOR THE PURPOSE THAT THAT WE PURCHASED IT. SO THAT'S MY FEEDBACK. I THINK YOU'RE DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB. THE LIST YOU PROVIDED, CHIEF BUSSIERES, IS A TESTAMENT TO WHAT THIS TECHNOLOGY CAN DO, AND IT IS IMPORTANT. THIS IS LIKE HAVING 20 MORE OFFICERS ON THE STREET AT ANY GIVEN TIME, AND THAT'S IMPORTANT. BUT IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT PRIVACY IS BALANCED. AND FOR ME, I THINK THOSE ARE THINGS WE ARE NOT CURRENTLY DOING THAT I THINK THAT I HOPE WOULD BUY MORE TRUST FROM THE COMMUNITY IF WE DID THEM. SO THEY REALLY UNDERSTAND HOW THIS TECHNOLOGY IS BEING USED AND IF WE GET QUESTIONS, WE CAN POINT THEM BECAUSE A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS THAT THE FEEDBACK WE GOT IN WRITING TONIGHT IS ABOUT THAT, HOW IS IT BEING USED? HOW IS IT BEING MAINTAINED? THE MORE OF THAT WE CAN PUT ON OUR TRANSPARENCY WEBSITE, THE BETTER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT FEEDBACK.

THANK YOU MAYOR. TO THAT END, IF I CAN SUMMARIZE WHAT I THINK IS KIND OF OUR NEXT STEPS FROM A STAFF STANDPOINT AND THEN HOW WE MIGHT APPROACH THAT, I'VE GOT A SERIES OF QUESTIONS. OKAY.

AND THEN I'D LOVE TO HEAR THE SUMMARY, IF THAT'S OKAY WITH YOU. SURE. AND IF ANYONE, IF ANY OF MY QUESTIONS SPUR ANOTHER QUESTION, THEN FEEL FREE TO TURN ON YOUR LIGHTS.

BUT SO A COUPLE CLARIFICATIONS. I KNOW THERE WAS TALK OF AUDITING QUARTERLY, BUT OBVIOUSLY WE'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT DELETING DATA EVERY 30 DAYS. CAN YOU STILL DO THE AUDIT EVEN THOUGH THE DATA IS NOT STILL IN THE SYSTEM. SO YES, SIR. BECAUSE WHENEVER WE DO THE AUDITS, WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO LOOK FOR THAT VEHICLE. WE'RE LOOKING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE OFFICERS ARE DOING THEIR JOB AND THAT THE REQUEST WAS APPROPRIATE. CORRECT? YES. GOT IT. OKAY. JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT THE SECOND PIECE, THE ACTUAL PROCESS FOR DELETION.

JUST SO WE'RE ALL CLEAR, I AM ASSUMING WHAT'S HAPPENING, BUT YOU TELL ME IF I'M RIGHT, IS THAT WE HAVE THE DATE THAT EVERY SINGLE PHOTO THAT'S TAKEN HAS A DATE AND TIME STAMP, AND AUTOMATICALLY AFTER 30 DAYS, AUTOMATICALLY, IT PROBABLY DELETES. AND THE WAY THAT IT DOESN'T DELETE IS IF IT'S ALREADY A PART OF A HOTLIST OR A PART OF AN ACTIVE INVESTIGATION. AND SOMEHOW THAT PICTURE GETS TAGGED AS SOMETHING I'M USING FOR AN ACTIVE INVESTIGATION. IS THAT RIGHT? MOSTLY. THE ONLY CAVEAT TO THAT IS EVEN IF THE VEHICLE IS PART OF A HOTLIST, THAT DATA IS STILL GOING TO FALL OFF UNLESS IT IS MANUALLY SAVED.

FAIR ENOUGH. SO I SEE THE PICTURE. I HIT THE LITTLE SAVE BUTTON THAT I'M GOING TO BE USING IT FOR THAT CASE THAT I ALREADY HAD ATTACHED TO IT, AND WE'RE GOOD TO GO ON THAT. SO EVEN IF IT'S ON, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S ON A HOT LIST AND IT GETS SCANNED IN FORT WORTH, THEN IT'S BUT IT'S NOT OF USE FOR US, THEN IT'S STILL GOING TO FALL OFF IN 30 DAYS. OKAY. ON THE AUDITS. I'M CURIOUS IF OUR AUDITS ARE ONLY ON OUR INTERNAL USERS OR ALSO ON OUR EXTERNAL

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IS THERE A REASON THEY WOULD DO THAT. SO THERE'S SOME TIMES WHERE THEY JUST, DEPENDING ON WHAT THEIR GOAL IS. SO IF YOU KNOW, IF THEY HAD AN ARMED ROBBERY THAT JUST OCCURRED WITH A, YOU KNOW, SUSPECT VEHICLE WAS A RED JEEP, THEY DON'T WANT TO FIND EVERY RED JEEP THAT SCANNED IN FROM EVERY SEARCHED VEHICLE. THEY WANT TO CHECK A VERY SMALL AREA. AND WHAT RED JEEP SCANNED OVER THE LAST 15 MINUTES, LEAVING THE SCENE OF THAT ARMED ROBBERY. AND SO THEY WOULD USE IT FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. OKAY, SO THAT THAT WOULD BE A PLACE WHERE THEY WOULD DO A SIMILAR THING. SO DO WE DO ANY DOES ANY OF THIS EXTERNAL USE OF OUR DATA TRIGGER AN AUDIT? SO ALL ANYTIME OUR DATA IS ACCESSED AND QUERIED WHETHER OR NOT WE WHETHER OR NOT OUR DATA PROVIDED A RESULT. SO IF IT WAS QUERIED IN ANY WAY, IT IS LOGGED UNDER OUR. NET NETWORK AUDIT TO SHOW THAT SOMEBODY QUERIED OUR NETWORK DATA, EVEN IF IT WAS A PART OF LIKE A 140 CITY QUERY. YES. OKAY. AND SO YOU'RE LOOKING FOR PATTERNS THERE ALSO. AND IF IF THE SAME LICENSE PLATE HAS BEEN CHECKED FOUR OR 5 OR 6 TIMES OR WHATEVER, THAT TRIGGER THAT MAKES THE PATTERN SAY, HEY, SOMEONE KEEPS CHECKING THIS THING THAT WOULD HYPOTHETICALLY SHOW UP IN YOUR. SO THERE ARE DIFFERENT, THERE ARE DIFFERENT WAYS THAT AND DIFFERENT PATTERNS WE LOOK FOR. BUT IT. SO I CAN'T SAY SPECIFICALLY WHAT EXACTLY IS GOING TO TRIGGER IT, BUT THAT. WE ARE LOOKING FOR ANOMALIES IN THAT TO NOTIFY US THAT SOMETHING'S NOT RIGHT AND WILL REQUIRE SOME ADDITIONAL LOOK. OKAY. THE IF A, IF AN ENTITY LIKE RPD DECIDES THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE A CASE NUMBER, I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE DO OR DON'T DO THIS, BUT LET'S JUST SAY WE DECIDED THAT WE HAD TO HAVE A CASE NUMBER EVERY SINGLE TIME. WOULD THAT CREATE A SCENARIO WHERE ANYONE FROM THE OUTSIDE THAT IS WANTING TO USE OUR DATA WOULD ALSO HAVE TO HAVE A CASE NUMBER ASSOCIATED WITH THAT? NO, SIR. OKAY. SO OUR RULE WOULD NOT NECESSARILY BE THEIR RULE. CORRECT. OKAY. LAST THING I'LL SAY WITH THE LAST FEW SECONDS I'VE GOT FOR NOW IS, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO IF YOU NEEDED A THIRD OR FOURTH PERSON TALKING ABOUT ADDING STUFF TO A TRANSPARENCY PAGE, I'D LOVE TO SEE THAT AS WELL. I MEAN, I ALMOST ENVISION THE PICTURE OF THE BACK OF THAT TRUCK BEING SOMETHING THAT WE EVEN USE ON SOCIAL MEDIA. THIS IS HOW RPD USES THE IMAGES, RIGHT? WHETHER OR NOT WE DO THAT, I DON'T KNOW, BUT IT SURE WOULD DISPEL. I DON'T THINK THAT PICTURE IS WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE IMAGINING WHEN THEY IMAGINE WHAT OUR FLOCK CAMERAS ARE DOING, AND WHAT YOU CAN SEE FROM THAT PICTURE PRETTY CLEARLY, IS THAT YOU CAN'T REALLY TELL WHO THE HECK IS IN THE VEHICLE IN THAT PARTICULAR CASE, AND IT IS JUST A FIXED IMAGE, WHICH. THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION BECAUSE I, I ASSUMED MAYBE IT WAS SOMETHING SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT. SO MORE ANOTHER VOTE TOWARDS, YOU KNOW, LET'S MAKE SURE THAT, AND I'D LOVE TO MAYBE HEAR YOU NOT LOOKING FOR ANSWERS NOW, BUT JUST AS YOU GUYS CONSIDER, WHAT ELSE CAN WE COMFORTABLY SHARE, IT JUST HELPS CREATE THAT MUCH MORE COMFORT, I THINK, IN THE COMMUNITY, WHICH I KNOW IS ONE OF THE MANY THINGS YOU'RE YOU'RE FOCUSED ON. SO YES, SIR. COUNCIL MEMBER BARRIOS. THANK YOU MAYOR. WHEN CHIEF, I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING, COUNCILWOMAN JUSTICE, THAT AS FAR AS IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH DISTRUST OF YOU OR ANYBODY IN UNIFORM OR ANY MEMBER OF OUR PD, AND NOT EVEN IN THOSE WHO ARE CIVILIANS AND WITHIN THE PD. I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT IF ANYBODY WOULD BREAK THE POLICY OR ANY RULES YOU PUT IN PLACE, THEY'RE GOING TO BE SWIFTLY CORRECTED AND YOU'RE GOING TO DEAL WITH THAT.

THERE'S NOTHING IN OUR DEALINGS THAT I'VE EVER MADE ME THINK OTHERWISE, THAT YOU WOULD HANDLE THAT AND HANDLE THAT SWIFTLY, SWIFTLY AND JUSTLY. YES, SIR. THE MY MY CONCERNS IS, AS MENTIONED, I JUST WANT TO SUMMARIZE AS TO THE BIGGER IDEA OF FLOCK TO. AND WHILE THERE ARE IN ANY PROFESSION AN OCCASIONAL ONE THAT PLAY OUTSIDE OF THE RULES, I KNOW AS

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THEY OWN THEM, THEY MAINTAIN THEM. WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO TOUCH THEM BECAUSE THE PROPRIETARY INFORMATION, THERE'S ALSO SOMETHING IN THE CONTRACT THAT ALLOWS THEM TO UPDATE THE INFORMATION. SO IF THEY WERE TO CHOOSE TO START USING THAT, THEY HAVE THAT ABILITY ACCORDING TO THE CONTRACT. SLIDE EIGHT. YOU KNOW, WE WE TALK ABOUT THE MYTH OF LPR CAN TRACK PEOPLE AND SHOW POLICE EVERYWHERE THEY GO. WELL, RIGHT. THEY'RE NOT ACTIVELY TRACKING, BUT AS I POINTED OUT, I MEAN, THE DATA GOES UP INTO, INTO THE CLOUD OR DATABASE, WHATEVER WE WANT TO CALL IT. AND THAT CAN BE USED TO TRACK. SO NOBODY THINKS THIS IS GOING TO GO FLOCK AS A STRONG AND GROWING COMPANY. NOBODY THINKS THIS IS GOING TO HAVE A PROBLEM.

BUT YEARS AGO, EVERYBODY SENT IN THEIR DNA TO TO 23 AND ME. THEN WHAT HAPPENED? THEY GO UNDER AND EVERYBODY'S CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR DNA GOING TO A PRIVATE. BECAUSE REMEMBER, AT THE END OF THE DAY, FLOCK IS STILL A PRIVATE COMPANY. THEIR INTENTION IS TO MAKE PROFITS.

THAT IS THEIR INTENTION LIKE ANY OTHER PRIVATE COMPANY. HECK, IF I WERE RUNNING FLOCK, I WOULD BE DOING THE SAME THING I THAT IS THE INTENTION OF A BUSINESS AND WE MUST NOT FORGET THAT, CHIEF. I HAVE NO NO DOUBT THAT ANYTHING WITHIN YOUR CONTROL OR ANY OF YOUR. YOUR LEADERSHIP STAFF WITHIN THEIR CONTROL, YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO CONTROL THAT TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY. SO MY OBJECTION AND THE REASON I CANNOT SUPPORT ANY FURTHER GROWTH OF FLOCK WITHIN OUR CITY IS NOT BECAUSE OF YOUR INABILITY OR ANYTHING YOU OR ANYBODY UNDER YOUR COMMAND, BUT IT'S JUST WITH THE COMPANY AND THE FACT THAT THERE AREN'T THE PROTECTIONS IN PLACE FROM A FEDERAL LEVEL TO PROTECT US FROM THAT. AND I DON'T TRUST ENOUGH A PRIVATE COMPANY TO PUT THAT MUCH DATA AND THAT MUCH CONTROL IN THEIR HANDS. SO THAT IS KIND OF MY LAST STATEMENT.

THANK YOU, CHIEF, FOR ANSWERING ALL OUR QUESTIONS AND FOR ALWAYS BEING OPEN AND ANSWERING.

SO THANK YOU AND THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY. CHIEF, DO YOU WANT TO ADDRESS ANY OF THAT OR ARE YOU OKAY WITH THE WAY IT IS? I'M GOOD. OKAY. I DIDN'T WANT TO CUT YOU OFF IN CASE YOU HAD A DESIRE THERE. COUNCIL MEMBER SERAFINI. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I JUST HAVE A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS. ONE, I THOUGHT I UNDERSTOOD. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I DID UNDERSTOOD THE 30 DAYS OF DATA THAT YOU ARE SAYING THAT WHAT I WAS THINKING THAT THIS IS SOMETHING PROBABLY ROLL OVER 30 DAYS AFTER 30 DAYS, YOU KNOW, TYPICAL CAMERA THAT IT'S GOING TO JUST ROLL OVER AND KEEP LAST 30 DAYS. YOU DON'T HAVE TO DELETE MANUALLY THE DATA THAT'S BEFORE 30 DAYS. SO THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT IS CORRECT, IT'S GOING TO DELETE BY DEFAULT AFTER 30 DAYS. SO IT'S JUST KEEPING 30 DAYS AS IT GOES ON 31ST DAYS IT'S GOING TO KEEP OUT UNLESS IS THERE ANY OPTION THAT YOU CAN CHANGE THAT ON THE PULL DOWN MENU? THAT'S OKAY. I WANT 60 DAYS, NOT 30 DAYS. IS THAT DOES NOT GIVE YOU ANY OPTION. THEY WOULD PROBABLY GIVE US OPTION AT THE BEGINNING OF A CONTRACT IF WE SO CHOSE. I DON'T RECALL THAT. OKAY, SO THIS IS ANYBODY ON THE GROUP HAVE AN OPINION ON THAT OTHERWISE OR HAVE SEEN ANYTHING DIFFERENTLY ON THAT? WE COULD SELECT ANOTHER OPTION. WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT WITH THE WITH THE CONTRACT, WE COULD SELECT A DIFFERENT OPTION, BUT WE CHOSE EARLY ON IN THIS PROCESS TO DEAL WITH 30 DAYS. WHEN WE ENTERED INTO THIS AGREEMENT, WE THOUGHT THAT WAS ENOUGH OF A LEAD TIME FOR TO INVESTIGATE MOST INVESTIGATIVE LEADS, BUT AT THE SAME TIME ROLLED OFF PRETTY QUICKLY. SO NO, THANK YOU FOR THE

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THAT'S THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT FOR NOW. I DO APPRECIATE IT. I'VE I MAY HAVE SOME, YOU KNOW, LEGAL QUESTIONS THAT INITIALLY WE MAY JUST PASS IN INTERNALLY, BUT IF THERE'S A NEED FOR A, AN EXECUTIVE SESSION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE MAY CALL FOR THAT. JUST I WOULD LOVE TO KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHAT RECOURSE WE HAVE OF A COMPANY LIKE FLOCK IN THE EVENT THAT THEY DECIDE TO SELL THE DATA BECAUSE THEY'RE AFTER THE MONEY OR ALL THE DIFFERENT POTENTIAL LEGAL SCENARIOS AND JUST WHAT OUR RECOURSE MIGHT BE. SO AT SOME POINT, YOU MAY BE ASKED TO KIND OF HELP US WITH, WITH THAT SORT OF INFORMATION. THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. IN TERMS OF FINAL STATEMENTS. YOU WANT TO SUMMARIZE FOR US? YES, SIR. MAYOR. THANK YOU. FIRST OF ALL, MAYOR COUNCIL, THANK YOU, GARY, AND TO YOUR TEAM, THANK YOU AS WELL. THIS HAS BEEN EXACTLY WHAT WE HAD HOPED IT WOULD BE, WHICH WAS A VERY ROBUST DISCUSSION AROUND EXACTLY WHAT IS OCCURRING AT RPD WITH RESPECT TO FLOCK CAMERAS. IF I COULD, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SUMMARIZE FOR EVERYONE SO THAT WE CAN BE ON THE SAME PAGE AS WE LAUNCH HERE. SO I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING IN TERMS IS REALLY SIX DIFFERENT ACTION ITEMS THAT I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE THAT WE FOLLOW UP ON. FIRST, WE WOULD LIKE TO EVALUATE ESTABLISHING CLEAR REQUIREMENTS GOVERNING OTHER AGENCIES ACCESS TO AND USE OF OUR DATA. SO COUNCILMAN SHAMSUL, TO YOUR POINT, IDENTIFY MUNICIPALITIES WITH ACCESS AND DISCLOSE THEM ON THE TRANSPARENCY PAGE SO THAT 146 NUMBER FORMALIZE, I SHOULD SAY REFRESH BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO GIVE THE IMPRESSION THERE'S NOT AN AUDIT POLICY, BUT PERHAPS REVIEW AND REFRESH THE AUDIT POLICY TO INCLUDE THINGS. FOR INSTANCE, DEFENSIBLE SAMPLING METHODOLOGY AND SAMPLE SIZE. COUNCILMAN CORCORAN AND THEN PUBLISH THAT UPDATED AUDIT POLICY ONLINE POST AUDIT RESULTS ONLINE ON A REGULAR BASIS. AND THEN FINALLY EXPLORE A A STRATEGY TO OBTAIN WRITTEN CONFIRMATION FROM FLOCK THAT APPLICABLE DATA HAS BEEN PERMANENTLY DELETED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CONTRACT.

AND SO IF THERE'S ANY ACTION ITEM THAT YOU DIDN'T HEAR KIND OF CAPTURED THERE, PLEASE LET ME KNOW NOW. BUT I THINK THAT'S THE THE MAIN ACTION ITEMS THAT I'VE TAKEN AWAY FROM OUR CONVERSATION TONIGHT. I THINK YOU'VE CAPTURED IT ALL, CHIEF. THANK YOU FOR KIND OF PUTTING

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[7. REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE INTERVIEW PROCESS FOR CITY COUNCIL PLACE 3 ]

AND THEN FINALLY YOU THAT THIS EVENING OR THE FOLLOWING MEETING AT THE START OF THE MEETING, YOU COULD CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AS YOU AS YOU AGREE TO FOR DELIBERATION FOR THESE THIS INITIAL INTERVIEW, WE'RE PROPOSING 20 MINUTES. YOU SEE, THAT DOESN'T ADD UP TO 20 MINUTES, BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO ALLOW FOR SOME FLEXIBILITY IN THE TIME. SO TWO MINUTE OPENING STATEMENT, A CLOSING STATEMENT, AND THEN EACH OF YOU WOULD POSE A QUESTION AND THE APPLICANT WOULD BE GIVEN TWO MINUTES TO RESPOND. IN TERMS OF THE THREE FINALISTS INTERVIEWS, THOSE ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. SO YOU SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE DEDICATED TIME FOR EACH OF THOSE. SO 30 MINUTES, BUT ESSENTIALLY THE SAME FORMAT HERE. THIS WOULD BE MONDAY, SEPTEMBER THE 21ST. SO I'VE GOT THE APPLICANTS ARRIVING BY 6 P.M. BECAUSE YOU WILL HAVE AN ACTION ITEM ON YOUR AGENDA TONIGHT, THAT NIGHT THAT IS BUDGET ADOPTION. SO BY THE TIME I PRESENT EVEN THE ABBREVIATED SUMMARY AND YOU TAKE YOUR ACTIONS, IT PROBABLY BE ABOUT 620 OR SO. AND SO WE'LL HAVE THE APPLICANTS ARRIVE AT SIX A. THE ORDER FOR THE INTERVIEWS

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SO DOES THAT MAKE SENSE FOR HIM TO STAY THAT TWO HOURS THERE? OR HE COULD COME BACK OR HE OR SHE COULD COME BACK, YOU KNOW, AFTER AN HOUR AND A HALF, SOME OF THE THOUGHT PROCESS IS HAVING THEM IN A CONFERENCE ROOM SO THAT THEY'RE NOT HEARING ALL THE QUESTIONS SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE THE SECOND PERSON HAVING AN UNFAIR ADVANTAGE OVER THE FIRST PERSON.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE WOULD DO IT THAT WAY AND COME BACK. SO YOU DON'T WANT THAT THING HAPPENING. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, IT'S UP TO US. WE'RE A GROUP THAT HAVE TO MAKE THAT DECISION I THINK. YEAH, I THINK THAT'S THESE ARE THE SMALL DETAIL PROBABLY I WOULD ASK, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I THINK I'M GOOD WITH THAT. THANK YOU. OF COURSE, COUNCILMEMBER.

THANK YOU MAYOR. I, I LIKE WHAT'S BEEN PRESENTED. I LIKE THE TIME. I THINK THAT I DO THINK THAT WE SHOULD AGREE WITH. I'D LIKE TO THROW THE NUMBER THREE OUT THERE. I THINK WE HAVE LIKE 12 APPLICANTS. WOULD YOU SAY 12 APPLICANTS? 13, 13 OKAY. IF WE WHITTLED IT DOWN TO 3 TO 3 APPLICANTS TO INTERVIEW, TO INTERVIEW. CORRECT. BECAUSE THERE'S THREE FINALISTS. YEAH, YEAH. OKAY. I THINK WE NEED TO WHITTLE IT DOWN TO A NUMBER. BUT I THINK MY BIGGER QUESTION IS. WHEN DO WE HAVE ACCESS TO THE APPLICATIONS SO THAT WE CAN REVIEW THEM? BECAUSE I'LL BE HONEST, I THINK HALF OF THEM I DON'T RECOGNIZE OR IF I'VE MET THEM, THEIR NAME DOESN'T DOESN'T RING A BELL. WHEN DO WE HAVE ACCESS TO APPLICATIONS AND WHAT IS GOING TO BE THE PROCESS OF US WHITTLING THAT DOWN TO TOP FIVE OR TOP THREE? WE'LL HAVE APPLICANTS PACKAGE TONIGHT, OKAY. AND I BELIEVE WE'LL BE PUBLISHING THEM PUBLICLY TOMORROW, SO EVERYONE WILL KNOW WHO THOSE APPLICANTS ARE, AND THEY'LL SEE THE APPLICATIONS TOMORROW. AND WE CAN TALK THROUGH HOW WE WANT TO DO THAT PROCESS AS A PART OF THIS CONVERSATION AS WELL. SO JUST TO THROW IT OUT THERE, AND I KNOW IT'S KIND OF A CRAZY TERM, BUT IF WE ALL HAD A, YOU KNOW.

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IT'S GOING TO BE ON CAMERA. ARE THE OTHER APPLICANTS GOING TO BE ABLE TO SEE THE OTHERS INTERVIEWED? BUT IN THE EVENT THAT CELL PHONES ARE UTILIZED OR ANY OTHER DATA, THE INFORMATION COULD GET TRANSFERRED OVER? ARE WE TAKING ANY PRECAUTIONS FOR THAT OR IS IT REALLY THAT CRITICAL THAT SOME DELIVERY OF THAT INFORMATION GETS FED BACK TO THE CANDIDATES OR APPLICANTS? I COULD HEAR YOUR QUESTION. JUST I WOULD SUGGEST IF WE CAN KEEP THE MICROPHONES CLOSE TO US SO THAT OUR PEOPLE CAN HEAR IT, SO THAT THE ANSWER, THE HIGH LEVEL ANSWER IS WE CAN MAKE THAT CHOICE TONIGHT AND WE CAN HAVE THAT CONVERSATION RIGHT NOW. DO WE WANT TO CORDON THEM? DO WE WANT TO ASK THEM TO PUT THEIR PHONES AWAY IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE HYPOTHETICALLY, DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER, IF THE NUMBER IS SMALL, THEN MAYBE THEY'RE ONLY GOING TO BE IN THE CONFERENCE ROOM FOR AN HOUR. IF THE NUMBER, IF WE SAY WE CAP IT AT TEN AND I'M JUST USING NUMBERS, THEN THAT'S GOING TO TAKE, YOU KNOW, 200 MINUTES. AND SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, QUITE A BIT LONGER. THAT'S ALMOST THREE HOURS WORTH OF WAITING. IS THAT DID I DO THAT RIGHT? THREE HOURS IF I ADD A LITTLE BIT OF CUSHION IN BETWEEN. SO THAT'S THREE HOURS OF WAITING. AND DO YOU, IS IT FAIR TO ASK SOMEONE TO HAVE TO SIT THERE IF THERE HAPPEN TO BE RANDOMLY PICKED AS THE LAST PERSON TO SIT THERE FOR THREE HOURS WITHOUT THEIR PHONE? BUT ALL OF THAT IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD DISCUSS AND COME UP WITH A SOLUTION FOR. I MEAN, I DON'T THINK I MEAN, I'M, I'M OVER IT EITHER. I JUST WANTED TO BRING IT UP. SO WE'RE AWARE OF IT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE ARE TRYING TO WHITTLE DOWN TO, YOU KNOW, SOME FINALISTS. AND WE WANT TO MAKE THE, YOU KNOW, THE BEST DECISION THAT WE POSSIBLY CAN. SO I THINK IT'S GOOD THAT, YOU KNOW, WE USE ANY TOOLS THAT WE HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, CURTAIL ANYTHING THAT COULD, YOU KNOW, COULD LEAD TO A DIFFERENT TYPE OF OUTCOME. COOL. THAT'S FOR TOWN COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE.

YEAH, I THINK I LIKE THAT WE HAVE A PROCESS SUGGESTED HERE. YOU KNOW, SADLY, IF YOU KNOW, SOMEONE IS CONCERNED ABOUT BEING HERE FOR THREE HOURS, IT'S PROBABLY ISN'T THE RIGHT ROLE FOR THEM. SO, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT I'M NOT REALLY WORRIED ABOUT THAT. I THINK THE QUESTION IS WHETHER OR NOT THEY'LL HAVE ACCESS TO TECHNOLOGY OR SOMETHING IN THAT TIME PERIOD. CLEARLY, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WE THOUGHT THROUGH. I MEAN, THIS IS A VERY PUBLIC PROCESS INTENTIONALLY. AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE DID NOT THINK THROUGH THIS PARTICULAR COMPONENT FOR SURE. YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT IF WE WANT FOLKS TO HAVE INTEGRITY AND SORT OF NOT HAVE A LEG UP ON THE OTHER PEOPLE, I'M FINE PUTTING THEM IN A CONFERENCE ROOM AND NOT HAVING THEM LOOK AT THEIR PHONE. I THINK WE NEED TO WHITTLE THE NUMBER DOWN FOR SURE. I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD INTERVIEW 13 PEOPLE AGAIN. I THINK WHEN WE SEE THE APPLICATIONS, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO THAT BETTER. I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO COMMIT TO A NUMBER TONIGHT. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IF WE COMMIT TO SIX AND IT TURNS OUT THERE'S SEVEN GREAT CANDIDATES, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE RESTRICTING OURSELVES TO THAT TONIGHT. THAT'S A DISCUSSION FOR FOR NEXT WEEK. BUT WE SHOULD ABSOLUTELY WHITTLE IT DOWN TO OUR TO OUR TOP CANDIDATES. BUT I THINK THIS PROCESS IS FINE. AND IF THE COUNCIL WANTS TO SEQUESTER THESE FOLKS IN A CONFERENCE ROOM, THAT THAT'S OKAY. FROM FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHENRIDER.

YEAH, I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK THAT. I MEAN, I'M NOT READY TO WHITTLE DOWN TO A NUMBER TONIGHT. I'D LIKE TO REVIEW ALL THE APPLICATIONS. AND SO, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO WHITTLING, BUT I'D LIKE TO HOLD THAT UNTIL NEXT WEEK. I AGREE WITH COUNCILWOMAN JUSTICE.

WE'RE GOING TO BE HERE. GOD ONLY KNOWS HOW LONG. AND SO IF A COUPLE HOUR WAIT IN A CONFERENCE ROOM SEQUESTERED, I DON'T I DON'T THINK THAT'S TOO MUCH TO ASK. I DO THINK I MEAN, DONNA, I WOULD ASK YOU, COULD WE HAVE SOMEONE IN THE ROOM WITH HIM JUST TO ASSURE THAT THEY'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, WATCHING THE FEED OR, OR GETTING TEXT FROM A FAMILY MEMBER WHO'S WATCHING THE FEED, WHO'S THEN TEXTING QUESTIONS? ET CETERA. ET CETERA. I THINK WE OUGHT TO HAVE SOMEBODY IN THE ROOM THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY MY ONLY REQUEST, IF AT ALL POSSIBLE.

YEAH. I THINK THAT'S EVERYTHING. THANK YOU. SO, YOU KNOW, I LIKE THIS PROCESS. ALSO, THERE IS

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I'M NOT DOING 13 INTERVIEWS. THAT'S CRAZY. NO, NO, NO, I'M SAYING WHATEVER THE NUMBER WAS THAT WE SETTLED ON BECAUSE ONLY BECAUSE THAT'S THAT'S NOT FAIR TO US AND TO THE APPLICANTS. NO, NO. FAIR ENOUGH. BUT ALSO IF IT'S 13, IF THE IDEA, IF WE DO END UP WITH. 13 SOMETHING WE GOT TO KEEP IN MIND IS WE EITHER KEEP THEM ALL NIGHT OR THREE OF THEM GET TO WATCH EVERYONE ELSE'S ANSWERS ONLINE AND THEN COME BACK WITH THE ABILITY TO DO THIS. SO THAT'S THE ONLY REASON I'M ASKING THAT WE AT LEAST DECIDE THAT PHILOSOPHICALLY. WE'RE THINKING WE'LL DO THIS IN ONE NIGHT, OR WE'LL DO IT OVER TWO NIGHTS, AND WE REALLY DON'T CARE IF THEY SEE THIS STUFF. CAN WE DECIDE ON THAT ONCE WE DECIDE HOW MANY? WE SURE CAN. AFTER WE GET THE APPLICATIONS TONIGHT, WE CAN WEED THAT OUT. MAYBE NEXT WEEK. AND FAIR. THAT'S FAIR. I THINK THAT'S FAIR. IS THAT OKAY? BECAUSE JUST I'M ONLY CONCERNED ABOUT HOW LONG WE HAVE TO POST SOME OF THIS STUFF, BUT I THINK WE'LL STILL BE WITHIN OUR. YES, I WAS JUST GOING TO SUGGEST WE COULD ALL HAVE TWO QUESTIONS, RIGHT? DIFFERENT SETS OF QUESTIONS FOR DIFFERENT NIGHTS IF THAT PLAYS OUT THAT WAY. OKAY, LET'S LET'S GO TO COUNCIL MEMBER. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. YOU KNOW, THIS IS INTERESTING. YOU KNOW, WHEN WHEN 13 PEOPLE APPLIED, I MEAN, TO ME, ALL OF THEM ARE QUALIFIED. AT LEAST THEY MET THE QUALIFICATION. AND I DON'T THINK I NEVER LIKED LIKE THE IDEA THAT COUNCIL WILL CHOOSE A CANDIDATE FOR TO SERVE. BUT WE ARE, YOU KNOW, WE ARE STUCK WITH THE PROCESS. BUT I THINK WE WANT THE STILL THE PUBLIC TO SEE THE PROCESS AND BE PART OF IT AND GET WHATEVER. AT LEAST SOMEHOW THEY SEE HOW THE PROCESS WAS DONE. SO I DON'T REALLY FEEL LIKE TAKING OUT, YOU KNOW, INTENTIONALLY BECAUSE WE JUST WANT FIVE TO INTERVIEW. WE SHOULD LOOK AT THE APPLICATION AND THEN SEE IF WE CAN REDUCE. I LIKE THE IDEA THAT MAYOR JUST SUGGESTED THAT HAVE ALL OF THEM IN PODIUM AND THEN ASK QUESTIONS. THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED DURING NORMAL PROCESS ELECTION. THEY GET TO ANSWER ONE. INSTEAD OF HAVING A DEBATE, JUST ANSWER, QUESTION, ANSWER BECAUSE IT WOULD TAKE MUCH LONGER TIME. SO WE CAN REDUCE THAT, YOU KNOW, FIVE, 6 HOURS TO 3 HOURS TO EVEN LIKE SOMETHING MUCH SMALLER BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE ONE MINUTE QUESTION, ANSWER. AND JUST, I THINK WE CAN DO BETTER BY SOME OTHER PROCESS IF WE HAVE BIGGER NUMBER THAT WE CHOOSE. BUT IF SMALLER NUMBER WORKS, THIS IS THE BEST WAY. I STILL LIKE TO HEAR FROM OTHERS.

WHAT ARE THE PROS AND CONS WITH THIS PERFECT COUNCILMEMBER? THANK YOU. MAYOR. I'M NOT A FAN OF THE IDEA OF THE FORUM STYLE. NOT BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE FORUMS. I'VE ALWAYS BEEN A PART OF MANY.

BUT AS WE ALL HAVE, I THINK THAT ONE WE AS A CITY DOING A FORUM. NORMALLY FORUMS ARE DONE BY BY LOCAL PARTNERS, WHETHER IT BE A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, WHETHER IT BE THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THEY OBVIOUSLY HAVE RULES, THEY HAVE SETS. THERE'S A WHOLE PROCESS TO DO IT FOR THEM. THERE'S TOO MANY OPPORTUNITIES TO. I THINK

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HOW MANY BELIEVE WE SHOULD WE SHOULD INTERVIEW MARY JONES, AND IT WOULD TAKE FOUR OF US OUT OF THE SEVEN OF US TO MOVE THEM TO THE INTERVIEW ROUND. I'M JUST THINKING THAT COULD BE A BE AN EFFECTIVE WAY TO DO IT RATHER THAN TRYING TO SAY I IT SORT OF GETS TO THE RANK ORDER.

I THINK THAT WAS. COUNCILMAN BERRIOS HAS SAID THAT. EXCUSE ME. SO IT KIND OF GETS TO THE RANK ORDER, BUT ALLOWS THE VARIABILITY. IF SOMEONE FEELS STRONGLY TO TO BE ABLE TO GET TO TO TRY TO CONVINCE THREE OTHERS OF US, IF YOU WILL EXCUSE ME, I APOLOGIZE TO, TO THE TO THE ROUND OF INTERVIEW. SO I THROW THAT OUT AS AN IDEA. SURE. COUNCILMEMBER BARRIOS. TO I THINK I AGREE FOR THE MOST PART THERE. WHAT MAYOR PRO TEM SAID. ONE OF THE THINGS AS FAR AS PROCESS AND TO ADD TO NOT TO COMPETE AGAINST ANYTHING HE'S JUST SAID. BUT WHEN WE'VE DONE APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AS A BODY, OFTENTIMES IT'S BEEN A SITUATION WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN THE BACK AND A NAME POPS UP AND WE'RE LIKE, OH, YOU KNOW, DOES ANYBODY HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY IN SUPPORT OF THIS PERSON? I'LL BE HONEST, LIKE I SAID EARLIER, SOME OF THOSE NAMES I DON'T RECOGNIZE, AND MAYBE ONCE I READ THEIR APPLICATION MAY TRIGGER SOMETHING. IT MAY NOT. I MAY BE LIKE, OKAY, I DON'T KNOW THIS PERSON. I HAVE NOTHING TO ADD. AND THEN WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT PERSON. OR ARE THERE ANY CONCERNS? I DON'T KNOW HOW TO BE HONEST, IN A PUBLIC FORUM, HOW HONEST ANYBODY WOULD BE ABOUT ANY CONCERNS. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WOULD. MOST PEOPLE OR ALL OF THE PEOPLE ON THIS DAIS ARE TOO SMART TO START SAYING NEGATIVE THINGS ABOUT ONE PERSON THAT THEY MAY NOT BE IN FAVOR OF, BUT AT THE SAME TIME. SO I'M WONDERING IF IT SHOULD BE A YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY HAS THAT TIME, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THE VOTING AND HOW THAT HAPPENS, I'M OPEN TO DISCUSSION. I WAS THINKING I BE IN A, A BALLOT FORM WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE THEN TURN IT TO AMY AND LET HER DO THE MATH OR, YOU KNOW, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IF WE DID SOMETHING IN A WRITTEN BALLOT AMONG THE COUNCIL. BUT IF WE WANTED, I'M AFRAID THAT IF WE DO IT THE WAY MAYOR PRO TEM MENTIONED, THAT HOW MANY OF US A NON VOTE IS KIND OF A NEGATIVE VOTE. SO IF WE'RE WE DON'T HAVE OUR HANDS UP. IT MAY LEAD TO A ALL 12 OR 13 GETTING THROUGH. MAYBE THERE'S ONLY THAT ONE PERSON WHO DOESN'T GET THROUGH BECAUSE COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE HESITANT TO NOT RAISE THEIR HAND FOR A RESIDENT. SO I'M KIND OF CONCERNED ABOUT THAT PROCESS.

CAN I ANSWER? LET'S LET'S LET'S JUST GO THROUGH. EVERYONE CAN BECAUSE I'VE GOT THOUGHTS ALSO,

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YOU KNOW, IF THAT'S IMPORTANT TO YOU, THAT CAN BE A QUESTION THAT CAN BE A CONSIDERATION BASED ON THEIR APPLICATION. YOU KNOW, I HAVE THINGS IN MY MIND THAT I THINK ARE IMPORTANT AND THAT, YOU KNOW, I CAN SORT OF SUGGEST IF AN APPLICANT DOESN'T INCLUDE THAT, THEN I CAN THAT WOULD BE A BASIS FOR ME NOT TO, TO PURSUE THEM. BUT I THINK THAT ENSURES THAT EVERY, ALL 13 CANDIDATES GET THEIR SORT OF DAY IN COURT, IF YOU WILL. YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY, IT WILL BE CONSIDERED BY THIS COUNCIL. WE'RE DOING THIS VERY PUBLICLY ON PURPOSE. YOU WOULDN'T WANT TO SUGGEST THAT FOR SOME REASON, WE'RE NOT CONSIDERING CERTAIN CANDIDATES, OR WE DIDN'T REVIEW THEIR APPLICATION OR GIVE IT SORT OF EQUAL MEASURE. SO I THINK GOING 1 TO 13, WHATEVER THAT ORDER IS, ALPHABETICAL ORDER OR WHATEVER IS, IS THE WAY TO DO IT TO MAKE SURE WE HIT ALL 13. THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS WHERE WE STAND ON THE. 13 AND MOVE ON. YEAH.

COUNCILMEMBER BARRIOS YEAH, I JUST THANK YOU, MAYOR. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT MY COMMENTS EARLIER IS BY NO, BY NO MEANS TRYING TO IMPLY GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION OR HAVING A PRIVATE VOTE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. I WAS PURELY THINKING ALONG THE LINES OF, HOW DO WE KEEP THE COUNCIL FROM VOTING ALL SET 13 THROUGH TO MAYOR PRO TEM POINT, WHICH I LIKE. I KNOW WE'RE KIND OF AT THE FOR ONE OF THE OPTIONS MIGHT BE, HEY, IF YOU KNOW, BILLY BOB GETS UP THERE AND ALL SEVEN OF US RAISE OUR HAND VERSUS FOUR, THEN MAYBE THAT, YOU KNOW, AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE HAVE FOUR THAT RAISE THAT ARE UNANIMOUS, MAYBE THAT WE LOOK AT THOSE VERSUS NOT JUST EVERY SINGLE ONE GET OVER FOUR. AND BECAUSE ALL 13TH MAY GET FOUR VOTES, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, HOW DO WE DO THAT KIND OF IN A RANKED CHOICE WAY? I FEEL LIKE IT REQUIRES SOME MORE THINKING THERE BECAUSE I'M NOT AGAINST THAT. I JUST DON'T WANT TO HAVE 13 ALL GET FOUR VOTES. YEAH. SO. SO LET ME JUST START THE TIMER ON MYSELF. SO. MAYBE I CAN MAKE A SUGGESTION. WE'LL SEE WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN AGREE TO THE SUGGESTION OR NOT. WE'LL HAVE A WEEK TO LOOK AT THESE APPLICATIONS BY THE TIME WE'RE TOGETHER MONDAY. WE ARE A

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I MEAN, THERE'S NO SECRET BALLOT OR ANYTHING TO THAT NATURE THAT WE CAN INCLUDE. SO AS LONG AS YOU'RE RAISING YOUR HAND TO PASS SOMEBODY ON, THEN IT'LL BE FINE. YEAH, I THINK, I THINK FOR THE SAKE OF TRANSPARENCY, I THINK US BEING ABLE TO EXPLAIN WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE SEEING IN SOME OF THESE APPLICATIONS, IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT EVERY ONE OF US HAS TO COMMENT ON EVERY SINGLE APPLICANT. IT'S UP TO YOU ALL. BUT I DO THINK IT WOULD BE INSTRUCTIVE AND HELPFUL THAT MAYBE WE TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT IT IS THAT IS OR ISN'T MISSING. BUT THAT'S, THAT'S, I GUESS THAT'S EACH OF OUR CHOICES. AND WE CAN MAKE THOSE CHOICES WHEN THAT TIME COMES. SO FOR NOW, NEXT WEEK WE WILL START WITH A DISCUSSION OF WHAT WE BELIEVE THE NUMBER OUGHT TO BE BASED ON OUR REVIEW OF THE APPLICATIONS.

WE'LL DEBATE WHAT THAT NUMBER IS AND WE'LL HOPEFULLY COME TO A CONSENSUS. AND THEN FROM THERE WE'LL BEGIN THE WORK OF DISCUSSING WHICH OF THOSE APPLICATIONS WILL BE THE ONES THAT WE WANT TO INTERVIEW. AT THAT POINT, PERHAPS, SHOULD WE RE-ADD THIS BACK TO THE AGENDA FOR NEXT WEEK AS WELL, SO THAT WE CAN ALSO THEN DETERMINE IF THIS IS GOING TO BE THE PROCESS.

WE'LL WORD IT IN A WAY THAT ALLOWS US TO DISCUSS AS WELL AS YEAH, REFINE THE APPLICATION PROCESS. SO AT THAT POINT, IF WE FEEL LIKE IT'S A DIGESTIBLE ENOUGH NUMBER IN ONE NIGHT, THEN MAYBE WE DO THIS AND WE SAY WE'RE GOING TO DO IT IN ONE NIGHT AND WE START AT 530 OR 545. AND BY THEN WE'LL, WE'LL KNOW WHAT EVERYONE'S SCHEDULES LOOK LIKE FOR THAT. IS THAT WORK FOR EVERYBODY? OKAY, COOL. I THINK THAT'S PROGRESS. GOOD DEAL. SO NOW WE CAN MOVE ON TO

[8. PUBLIC HEARING, ZONING FILE ZF 26-14, AND CONSIDER ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF RICHARDSON, TEXAS, AMENDING THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE AND ZONING MAP OF THE CITY OF RICHARDSON, AS AMENDED, BY GRANTING A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM O-M OFFICE DISTRICT TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT WITH A BASE ZONING DISTRICT OF O-M OFFICE DISTRICT WITH MODIFIED USE AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS RELATING TO THE USE AND DEVELOPMENT OF APPROXIMATELY 0.32 ACRES LOCATED AT 200 S. COTTONWOOD DRIVE, ON THE WEST SIDE OF S. COTTONWOOD DRIVE, SOUTH OF W. BELT LINE ROAD. ]

I APOLOGIZE, I TORE OFF A PIECE OF MY PAPER, BUT GRANTING A CHAN IN ZONING FROM OM OFFICE DISTRICT, BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH. THAT WAS MY MOST PROFESSIONAL MOMENT SINCE BEING MAYOR. A CHANGE IN ZONING DISTRICT OF OM OFFICE DISTRICT WITH MODIFIED USE AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS RELATING TO THE USE AND DEVELOPMENT OF APPROXIMATELY 0.32 ACRES.

LOCATED AT 200 SOUTH COTTONWOOD DRIVE ON THE WEST SIDE OF SOUTH COTTONWOOD DRIVE, SOUTH OF WEST BELTLINE ROAD. MR. MAGNER, THANK YOU, MAYOR, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. CHRISTINE ROSS, OUR PLANNER, IS GOING TO STAFF THIS. AND BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO HER, I WANT TO JUST RECOGNIZE HER AND LET YOU DO AS WELL. CHRISTINE OFFICIALLY EARNED HER AICPA, AICPA CERTIFICATION LAST WEEK. THIS IS A VERY DISTINGUISHED CREDENTIAL IN THE PLANNING PROFESSION. IT RECOGNIZES BOTH HER PROFESSIONAL EXPERTISE, HER KNOWLEDGE, AND REALLY HER COMMITMENT TO THE HIGHEST ETHICAL STANDARDS. SO CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE IT. YES. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. MY NAME IS CHRISTINE ROSS. I'M A PLANNER TWO HERE IN THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT. THIS IS ZONING FILE. 2614 A REQUEST OF A REZONING FROM OM OFFICE DISTRICT TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, LOCATED AT 200 SOUTH COTTONWOOD DRIVE. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF SOUTH COTTONWOOD DRIVE AND SOUTH OF WEST BELTLINE ROAD AND IS ZONED OM OFFICE. THE SITE IS SURROUNDED BY OFFICE AND COMMERCIAL USES ON THREE SIDES, AND COTTONWOOD PARK IS LOCATED TO THE EAST. THE PROPERTY WAS DEVELOPED IN 1968 WITH A 5353 SQUARE FOOT OFFICE BUILDING.

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THEY'RE CONNECTED. YES. AND AND THIS WILL STAY AS IS LIKE INDIVIDUAL LOT. 2526 I DIDN'T GET IT. IF YOU CAN EXPLAIN THIS. SO IT'S ACTUALLY ONE BUILDING THAT IS STRADDLING TWO TRACKS, RIGHT? SO THE BUILDING ITSELF IS JUST ONE FIVE, ROUGHLY 5000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING, BUT IT'S SITTING ON THAT, THAT PROPERTY LINE THAT THEY SHARE. YEAH. NOW, SO THIS WILL BE STILL CONSIDERED TWO LOT WHEN EVERYTHING IS SAID AND DONE. THE GOAL IS TO HAVE ONE LOT THAT'S PLOTTED CORRECTLY. SO IT WILL BE PLOTTED CORRECTLY WITH ONE REVISED LOT. IF IT ALL GOES, IT COULD BE CALLED LOT 25 R OR 25, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER. SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YEAH. OKAY.

SO THIS IS THIS RED LINE WILL GO AWAY EVENTUALLY IF IT END OF THE DAY. THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY.

THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER DURAN. QUICK QUESTION. IS IT CURRENTLY OCCUPIED BY ANY OTHER TENANTS OR IS THAT SOMETHING FOR THE APPLICANT? THIS QUESTION WAS ASKED AT THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, AND THEY CONFIRMED THAT THEY ONLY HAD ONE TENANT AT THE TIME. I'M NOT SURE IF ANYTHING'S CHANGED WITHIN THE WEEKS FROM THAT MEETING TO TODAY, BUT WE CAN DOUBLE CHECK WITH THEM. I HAVEN'T REALLY CHECKED, BUT THE BUILDING, I GUESS, HAS BEEN PRETTY MUCH EMPTY. IT'S THAT ONE TENANT SINCE 2015. OH, OKAY. THEY'VE OWNED IT. I READ IN HERE SINCE 2015, CORRECT? YES. ALL RIGHT. OTHERWISE, IF WE DON'T APPROVE THIS, IT'LL JUST REMAIN AS OFFICE. YES. THAT'S CORRECT. AND OR. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. I UNDERSTOOD THE APPLICANT WAS NOT HERE THIS EVENING. IS THAT RIGHT? NO, THEY ARE HERE. THEY DO NOT HAVE A PRESENTATION, BUT THEY ARE HERE. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? YOU DO. I HAVE A COMMENT? OKAY. WELL, WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO CALL THEM UP SO THAT WE CAN GIVE. OKAY,

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THAT'S OKAY. NO PROBLEM. YOU'RE TOTALLY OKAY. JUST SAVE YOUR COMMENTS UNTIL WHEN YOU GET TO THE MICROPHONE. BUT AFTER YOU'RE DONE WITH THE COMMENTS, IF YOU DON'T MIND FILLING OUT A FORM, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. ABSOLUTELY. SO THIS WILL BE ON THIS CASE, RIGHT, SIR. PARDON ME. IS THIS ABOUT FLOCK OR IS THIS. YEAH, IT'S JUST A FOLLOW UP. OH, I'M SORRY. IF YOU DON'T MIND HAVING A SEAT BACK DOWN, I'LL CALL YOU RIGHT BACK UP AS SOON AS THIS IS OVER. I MEANT QUESTIONS ON THIS CASE. I THOUGHT THIS WAS THE OPEN PART. NO, IT'S ABOUT TO BE, THOUGH.

AND SORRY ABOUT THAT. THAT WAS MY FAULT. I SHOULD HAVE BEEN MORE CLEAR. ARE THERE ANY PEOPLE HERE THAT WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS CASE? OKAY. SEEING NONE. MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHENRIDER. EXCUSE ME. MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHENRIDER, A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHENRIDER. MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ZONING FILE ZF26-14 WITH THE DO I SAY CONDITIONS AMENDMENTS AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF PRESENTED WITH STAFF'S PROPOSED CONDITIONS? OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? I KNOW THERE WILL BE SOME DISCUSSION AT LEAST, BUT OKAY, WE HAVE A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE COMMENTS OR DISCUSSION ON THIS MOTION. COUNCIL MEMBER BARRIOS. MAYOR, I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS BECAUSE I THINK IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO FOR THE PROPERTY AND FOR THE COMMUNITY. OVERALL, I WOULD HOPE THAT SINCE THE OWNER IS HERE, I DO LIVE A FEW DOORS DOWN FROM THIS PROPERTY AND IT DEFINITELY I APPRECIATE THE CHANGES THAT HOPEFULLY WILL BE MADE, BUT THE FACT THAT IT WAS RUNNING A BUSINESS THERE FOR A LONG TIME ILLEGALLY, IT IS HARD TO IGNORE. AND I WOULD HOPE THAT MOVING FORWARD, THAT THEY ARE CAREFUL IN WHAT COMES INTO THIS BUSINESS AND THAT THEY WOULD PICK THEIR TENANTS CAREFULLY BECAUSE THE ONES THAT WERE THERE PRIOR WERE NOT CONDUCIVE TO A NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THERE WERE DEFINITELY CREATED PROBLEMS WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT COMMENT. BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THE ZONING, OBVIOUSLY, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL HOPEFULLY HELP THEM BRING BETTER HELP THEIR BUSINESS AND AT THE SAME TIME HELP THEM BRING BETTER TENANTS. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS MOTION? WE HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHENRIDER, A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. AT THIS TIME, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND TAKE ANY OTHER COMMENTS THAT WE'RE WAITING, SIR, IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME ON UP, I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. I KNOW IT'S LATE. I'LL TRY TO KEEP THIS BRIEF. I GOT TO LISTEN TO THE CHIEF'S THOUGHTFUL COMMENTS ON THE FLOCK SAFETY, AND I RECOGNIZE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS WALKING A TIGHTROPE. THE COUNCIL'S WALKING A REAL TOUGH SPOT BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO KEEP OFFICER RETENTION. I RECOGNIZE ALL THESE CONCERNS. I WILL SAY I WAS PLEASED TO SEE, I BELIEVE, SERGEANT MASTERS CLEAR UP ONE OF MY CONCERNS ABOUT THE DATA BEING SHARED, THAT OTHER PEOPLE CAN COME IN. THE ONES THAT WE'VE ALLOWED TO SHARE CAN ONLY SEE ONE LICENSE PLATE AT A TIME, AND IT'S ON THE AUDIT LOG. SO FROM A TECHNOLOGY STANDPOINT, SINCE I'M A DIRECTOR, I CAN TELL YOU THAT MAKES ME FEEL VERY GOOD. TO ELABORATE A LITTLE FURTHER ABOUT FLOCK AND MY CONCERNS IS THAT ANYONE SEEN THE OLD KALEIDOSCOPE CRANK MOVIES, THE OLD DAYS, WHERE YOU PUT YOUR EYES DOWN AND YOU SEE THE LITTLE SINGLE PHOTO AND AS YOU TURN IT, THERE WAS MORE PHOTOS THAT WOULD GO BEHIND IT. WHEN YOU TURN IT FAST ENOUGH, IT LOOKED LIKE A MOVIE. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE'S EVER SEEN THAT, BUT I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS DRAW A PARALLEL BETWEEN THAT AND A NETWORK OF FLOCK SYSTEMS. I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT RICHARDSON'S ALL POINTED AT THE BACK OF THE POLICE CAR AT THE BACK OF RESIDENTS CARS, ANYONE'S CARS. THE FACT IS THAT SOME OF THE PEOPLE WE SHARE WITH, LIKE PLANO, DON'T. THEY POINT AT THE FRONT OF THE CAR. I KNOW THAT FOR A FACT. IF YOU GO DOWN TO ALLIANCE BOULEVARD AT THE BAYLOR MEDICAL SYSTEM SALES OFFICES AND YOU PULL OUT OF THERE, IT'S TAKING A PICTURE OF THE FRONT OF THE CAR. THAT BEING SAID, THE OTHER OFFICERS, THE OUR OFFICERS, WE DO TAKE ABACK AND I'LL BELIEVE WHAT THEY SAID. WE TAKE THE BACK OF THOSE CARS. THE PEOPLE THAT WE SHARE WITH DON'T DO THAT NECESSARILY. THEY TAKE THE FRONT. AND I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THESE CAMERAS WILL EVENTUALLY. AND THESE CAN BE DOWNLOADED AND IMPROVED. MY

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WE DON'T EMPLOY THAT HERE AND IT CAN DO RECOGNITION. THERE'S OTHER DEVICES, MOTOROLA AND A FEW OTHERS TO MENTION THAT DO THE SAME. MY CONCERN IS WHERE DOES IT STOP? OKAY. THE POLICE.

THE CHIEF MADE A GREAT EXAMPLE OF TRYING TO EXPLAIN. EDUCATING IS GREAT. IT HELPS YOU ALL LEARN. BUT THE CITIZENS STILL DON'T LIKE BEING WATCHED. THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE. IT'S IT'S INTRUSIVE. SO PLEASE KEEP THAT IN MIND WHEN YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT VOTING. PLEASE.

I THINK THAT IF YOU ALL DO WHAT THE RECOMMENDED OPTIONS I HEARD WERE THE SIX ITEMS AND POST THE TRANSPARENCY, THAT WILL CERTAINLY MAKE ME A LOT HAPPIER. AND I JUST WANT TO FOLLOW UP WITH ONE THING. I'M NOT CERTAINLY AGAINST POLICE. MY GODFATHER'S SON, HIS NAME IS MARK HINES, LOST HIS LIFE AS A POLICE OFFICER IN JEFFERSON COUNTY, KENTUCKY. SO I'M ALL ABOUT POLICE AND SAFETY AND I DON'T WANT THEM KILLED. AS FAR AS OUR OFFICERS SAYING ALL THE GOOD THINGS FLOCK'S DONE TO HELP THEM. MY QUESTION WOULD BE IS HOW MANY THINGS COULD THEY HAVE DONE WITHOUT FLOCK? THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT LOSING PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A TOOL. WELL, THERE'S OTHER PEOPLE WE CAN HIRE. OKAY. THE OTHER THING IS, I DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF OUR FLOCK GETTING AN ALERT FROM ANOTHER STATE AND OUR OFFICERS ACTING ON IT.

THEY'RE PUTTING OUR OFFICERS AT RISK FOR AN OUTSIDE AGENCY THAT'S PUT A REQUEST ON THAT HIT LIST. WISCONSIN THIS WEEK, A CAR WAS ON THE HIT LIST ON THE HOT LIST, RATHER, AND A WOMAN WAS PULLED OUT ARMED WITH ARMED POLICE BACKING UP. SHE WAS ON THE HOT THE HOT LIST THE WEEK BEFORE AND THEY FORGOT TO TAKE HER OFF. SO IT HAPPENED TWICE IN A ROW. AND THEY DID IT RIGHT ON THE INTERSTATE. SO THEY BACKED UP TRAFFIC. SO YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED? FIVE MILES DOWN THE ROAD, PEOPLE PLOWED INTO EACH OTHER BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T EXPECT THE TRAFFIC TO STOP. SO THERE'S A LOT OF CAUSE AND EFFECT HERE. I DON'T THINK WE NEED THE SYSTEMS. FOR THOSE REASONS. IF OUR COPS CAN'T DO THE JOB, GET ONES THAT CAN. AND LIKE I SAID, I REALLY DO APPRECIATE Y'ALL. WHEN LAURA MAXWELL WAS HERE, I WAS ONE OF THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT STOOD UP THE DAY THAT THE COUNCIL WAS GETTING RAKED OVER THE COALS. AND I STOOD UP TO THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL THE WORK YOU ALL HAVE DONE, BECAUSE IT'S HARD. IN THIS CASE, WE'RE CROSSING A LINE AND YOU ALL WON'T BE HERE TO MONITOR WHO'S GOING TO PUT IN WHAT NEXT. THINK ABOUT THAT.

THEY CAN ALREADY LOOK AT BLUETOOTH. THEY CAN LOOK AT RFID TAGS ON YOUR DOG'S CAR, IN YOUR DOG, WITH YOUR CAR DRIVES BY THEIR SOLUTIONS OUT THERE THAT DO THAT, ARE THEY GOING TO CREEP IN HERE? MY LAST COMMENT, IF I HAVE TIME, IS YOU DON'T. BUT WILL YOU DO ME A FAVOR BECAUSE I DIDN'T I DIDN'T ASK YOU THE QUESTION EARLIER. DO YOU MIND STATING YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS JUST FOR THE RECORD? ABSOLUTELY. MY NAME IS PATRICK BRINEY. I'M A TWO 604 RIDGE BRIER. THANK YOU. RICHARDSON, TEXAS. THANK YOU SO MUCH, SIR. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. ABSOLUTELY. IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER PEOPLE THAT WERE WAITING

[9. REPORT ON ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST ]

SO AND IT WAS AMAZING. THE KIDS WERE EXCITED. AND I LOVE THOSE FACE SMILING FACE THAT COMING BACK TO SCHOOL. SO THAT WAS WONDERFUL. AND THEN ALSO YESTERDAY, SUNDAY, I AIN'T HAD HEALTH CARE. THEY DO THAT EVERY YEAR A FEW TIMES. SO IT WAS FREE FOR THE COMMUNITY. SO THAT'S A GREAT WAY TO GET SCREENED AND GET SOME SHOTS BEFORE THE SCHOOL BEGINS. AND LAST FRIDAY WE HE HAD TO COME. I DON'T KNOW, I'M LOSING MY MIND RIGHT NOW. COMMUNITY CHALLENGE. I'M SURE SOMEBODY WILL BE ADDRESSING THAT. BUT THAT WAS ANOTHER WONDERFUL EVENT. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER BARRIOS. THANK YOU MAYOR. MAYOR, JUST MOVING FORWARD, I KNOW THAT SCHOOL DISTRICTS ALL AROUND US ARE BEGINNING SCHOOL THIS WEEK AND IN THE COMING

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JUST TWO THINGS. REALLY QUICKLY PICK UP ON WHAT COUNCILMAN GRIFFIN TALKED ABOUT. CORPORATE CHALLENGE WAS FRIDAY NIGHT. I THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT TURNOUT. A LOT OF BUSINESSES WERE THERE.

WE WON'T NOTE THAT COUNCILMAN CORCORAN HAD TO SPLIT HIS TIME BETWEEN US AND HIS AND HIS BUSINESS. BUT THAT'S OKAY. WE WE WE APPRECIATE THE TIME HE SPENT WITH US. I'M JUST TEASING HIM. BUT I THOUGHT I THOUGHT EVERYONE DID A GREAT JOB WITH IT. I THOUGHT ALL THE CITY STAFF AND EVERYTHING WENT EXTREMELY WELL. AND THEN I'VE JUST GOT A. THIS IS A PROUD DAD MOMENT. I'VE GOT TO GIVE A QUICK SHOUT OUT TO MY YOUNGEST DAUGHTER. LAST. ON AUGUST 1ST SHE OFFICIALLY RECEIVED HER WHITE COAT. SO SHE'S MY SECOND DAUGHTER IN MEDICAL SCHOOL. SO I HAVE A THIRD YEAR AND A FIRST YEAR. AND I'M JUST VERY PROUD OF BOTH OF THEM AND ESPECIALLY PROUD OF KIMBERLY. SO, KIMBERLY, WAY TO GO. WHAT'S THAT? IT'S NOT GOOD. THE BANK ACCOUNT IS NOT GOOD. VERY FAIR QUESTION. CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL. I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER LIGHTS ON COUNCILMEMBER CORCORAN. YOU'RE GOOD. RIGHT? OKAY. WITH NO FURTHER

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