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IS BRENDA HARD WILSON, AND IT IS MY PRIVILEGE TO BE VICE CHAIR OF THE BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN ADVISORY COMMITTEE.THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO TAKE ROLL CALL.
BOARD MEMBER RICHARD BUDZINSKI.
PRESENT THE ASSISTANT CHIEF KEITH LER.
AND CIO OGA EX CASTILLO MEMBER PRESENT.
THE MEETING WILL COME TO ORDER.
WELCOME TO THE SEPTEMBER MEETING OF THE BICYCLE PE ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
WELCOME ALL MEMBERS AND GUESTS.
AND NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS CALLING YOU, IS TO SPEAK TO THE COMMITTEE.
DO WE HAVE ANY SNEAKER CARDS SUBMITTED? WE DO NOT.
THANK YOU THAT THE FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS A REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF JULY 9TH MEETING MINUTES, COPIES OF THE DRAFT MINUTES THAT WERE DISTRIBUTED TO ALL MEMBERS TO REVIEW.
ARE THERE ANY CORRECTIONS OR REVISIONS TO THE MINUTES AND PRESENT? YES.
FOR ADDITIONAL STAFF MEMBER DOLLARS.
THE CITY MANAGER WITH YOUR LAST TIME, SO, OKAY, THANK YOU.
THE CORRECTIONS WILL BE MADE TO THE MINUTES.
ANY OTHER REVISIONS? I MOVE MINUTES AS
THANK YOU DIANE G MOVES TO APPROVE.
MATTHEW MARTIN HAS SECONDED THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.
AND IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.
THE MOTION CARRIES THE MINUTES OF THE JULY MEETING ARE APPROVED.
NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS THE PRESENTATION ON THE PROTECTED INTERSECTIONS.
DANIEL HARRIS, ARE YOU PRESENTING YOU NIGHT? UM, SO WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT
I KNOW THIS IS GONNA BE, UM, OBVIOUSLY A LOT ABOUT, UH, WE'LL BE DOING THIS
JUST KIND TALK WHAT THE ELEMENT OF THOSE, UM, A LITTLE BIT OF THE BACKGROUND.
SO YEAH, RICHARDSON HAS TWO PROTECTED INTERSECTIONS RIGHT NOW IS A GREEN LINVILLE.
UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE DEFINING FEATURES YOU MAY SEE IS THE, THE BIKE SIGNALS, UM, AT THOSE LOCATIONS.
UM, AND THEN APPROACH THE INTERSECTION A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
AND THAT'S, UH, SOME OF THE KEY FEATURES THAT WE'LL WALK THROUGH.
UH, THE PROTECTED INTERSECTION, KIND OF THE DESIGN, THE CONCEPT AND THE FOCUS ON INTERSECTION WAS IDENTIFIED IN THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN, UH, WHERE RICHARDSON HAS A, UM, FAIRLY ROBUST BIKE LANE NETWORK.
UM, BUT KIND OF AT THE INTERSECTION THERE'S FEEDBACK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, JUST, UH, FEELING KIND OF EXPOSED, UH, FEELING UNCOMFORTABLE AT THE INTERSECTIONS.
AND SO HOW DO WE KIND OF PULL THE COMFORT OF THE BIKE LANE THROUGH AN INTERSECTION, UH, TO BE ABLE TO CROSS, UM, MAJOR ROADWAYS LIKE ARAPAHOE.
UM, THE DESIGN SIDE FAIRLY NEW, UM, IN THE US UM, BUT IT IS KIND OF BEST PRACTICE AS IT'S BEEN ADOPTED INTO A LOT OF THE, UH, NEW DESIGN MANUALS NOW.
UM, BOTH AT, UH, THE FEDERAL LEVEL AND THEN KIND OF CITY ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF CITY TRANSPORTATION OFFICIALS.
UM, THESE TWO IN RICHARDSON, UM, AS FAR AS I'M AWARE, ARE TWO OF THREE IN NORTH TEXAS.
UH, THE ONLY OTHER ONE I'M AWARE OF IS IN PORT WORTH.
UM, AND WE HAVE, WHEN WE OPENED GREENVILLE, ARAPAHOE, IT WAS ONE OF THOSE ARE WE THE FIRST WAS TECHNICALLY THE SECOND, UH, FOR AFTER 10 SITE BEFORE OURS.
UM, BUT THEN, UM, NINTH SAY WE HAVE THE MOST, UH, UH, BUT IT IS KIND OF EVERYONE'S ADJUSTING TO THE DESIGN.
IT IS DEFINITELY DIFFERENT FROM WHAT IT WAS BEFORE.
UM, SOME GOOD THINGS WITH THAT, SOME BAD THINGS WITH THAT, AND WE CAN TALK THROUGH THAT.
UM, BUT IT IS, THOSE FEDERAL AND STATE REQUIREMENTS, UH, REALLY GUIDE A LOT OF HOW WE DESIGN AS WELL AS FOR BETTER OR WORSE, HOW WE OPERATE.
UM, SOME OF THE SIGNAL COMPONENTS OF THAT.
UM, WITHIN EDUCATION WE DO, WE ARE DEVELOPING A WEBPAGE OR PROTECTED INTERSECTIONS.
AGAIN, HOPEFULLY HELPING DRIVE SOME MORE EDUCATION TO BE ABLE TO PUSH PEOPLE TO A WEBPAGE TO, TO LEARN MORE KIND OF WHY THEY ARE, THEY ARE GETTING INTO PROTECTED INTERSECTIONS.
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GOES BACK TO SOME, SOME OF THE GEOMETRY BEING A LOT OF THE WAY OUR INTERSECTIONS HAVE BEEN DESIGNED.UH, PREVIOUSLY IT'S, YOU KNOW, KIND A RETROFIT OF OUR EXISTING ROADWAYS.
AND SO AS A LOT OF 'EM, UH, YOU HAVE A PRETTY HIGH LEVEL FROM A, FROM A BICYCLE STANDPOINT OF HOW MUCH YOU'RE INTERACTING WITH VEHICLES WHERE YOU HAVE CONFLICT, CONFLICT SENSOR WITH VEHICLES.
UM, AND SO TRYING TO MOVE THOSE AND REDUCE HOW MUCH EXPOSURE, HOW MANY CONFLICT POINTS YOU HAVE WITH VEHICLES, UH, TO IMPROVE SAFETY AND FOR, FOR REALLY ALL USERS IN THAT, UM, SEVERAL COMPONENTS.
AND SO SOME OF THESE ARE GRAPHICS FROM SOME OF THOSE DESIGN MANUALS.
UM, YOU KNOW, AS YOU APPROACH SOME OF THE KIND OF FEATURES YOU'LL NOTICE, YOU KNOW, NUMBER ONE IS LIKE YOU HAVE PROTECTED INTERCEPTION OR PROTECTED BIKE LINK.
UM, SO YOU KIND OF A DEDICATED BIKE SPACE ALL THE WAY UP TO THE INTERSECTION.
UM, YOU KNOW, NUMBER TWO, UH, YOU'LL SEE SOME OF THOSE KIND OF CORNER REFUGE ISLANDS, UM, THAT YOU'LL HAVE KIND OF DEDICATED SPACE, UM, FOR BIKES AWAY FROM PEDESTRIAN SPACE, UM, BUT FROM PEDESTRIAN ALSO CROSSING THROUGH THE BIKE LANE.
UM, AND THEN THREE, YOU HAVE SOME SETBACKS, UH, FOUR YOUR BIKES AND PEDESTRIANS.
UM, AND THAT'S ONE OF THOSE, WHEN THOSE TURNING MOVEMENTS ARE COMING ACROSS, THEY HAVE BETTER VISIBILITY.
UM, JUST AS THEY APPROACH, UM, THE CROSSING FOR THE BICYCLE, THE PEDESTRIAN IN, AND THEN YOUR CURB RETURN RADIATE.
UM, OFTENTIMES YOU'RE KIND OF MAKING IT SMALLER, UH, WHICH LEADS TO A SLOWER TURN FOR VEHICLES.
UM, AND THEN YOU'RE DESIGNING IT IN A WAY THAT SOMETHING LIKE A LARGER TRUCK IS GONNA END UP KIND OF MOUNTING OVER THAT ISLAND.
UM, AND SO THEY'LL KIND OF TRACK OVER IT.
BUT, UH, FOR A TYPICAL PASSENGER CAR, WHICH IS WHAT WE DO, UM, MOST OFTEN, UM, THEY'RE JUST HAVING TO GO AT A SLOWER SPEED TO TO NAVIGATE IT, WHICH AGAIN, IF THERE IS A CONFLICT, THEY'RE MOVING AT A SLOWER SPEED.
SO IT'S A MORE SAFE OR, UH, BICYCLES, PEDESTRIANS IN THAT ENVIRONMENT.
UM, PEDESTRIANS, UH, WITHIN THIS LINE, UM, THERE ARE SOME NEW COMPONENTS OF HOW THEY CROSS THE BIKE LANE.
UM, THREE ARA SEE, UH, SOME DIFFERENT EXAMPLES.
A LOT OF A DA COMPONENTS OF, YOU KNOW, WHERE DO YOU PUT THE PUSH BUTTONS, UM, YOU KNOW, DO YOU DO IT KIND OF ON THE SIDEWALK SIDE BEFORE THEY CROSS THE BIKE LANE? DO YOU DO IT IN A LITTLE ISLAND? BE BEFORE BETWEEN THE BIKE LANE AND THE VEHICLE LANE? UM, AND A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH THE, YOUR GEOMETRY IN THAT.
UM, BUT THEN LINING UP YOUR, YOUR DEDICATED CROSSWALK, PEDESTRIAN CROSSWALK, AND YOUR, UM, BICYCLE CROSSWALK IN THOSE, UM, MARKING SIGNAGE.
UH, SO YEAH, UH, THE, YOU'LL SEE IS DEFINITELY THE MOST GREEN PAINT WE PROBABLY HAVE IN THE CITY, UM, AT THESE TWO INTER COLLECTIONS.
UM, DE DELAYING THE CONFLICT AREA BETWEEN VEHICLES, UH, LIKE THE CONNECTION, TRYING TO GUIDE TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE KNOWS WHERE EACH USER IS SUPPOSED TO BE AND WHEN TO EXPECT THOSE FAVORITE USERS.
UM, AND THEN, UH, WITHIN THIS YOU'RE ALSO, UH, END UP WITH TURN SOME TURN RESTRICTIONS.
UM, SO, UH, A LOT OF NO TURN ON RED, UH, TO AGAIN, PROTECT KIND OF THE, THE TIMING OF THOSE RIGHT TURNS OR DIFFERENT AS WELL AS THERE'S LEFT AND RESTRICTIONS ACROSS THE BIKE LANE WHEN THE BIKE LANES HAVE A PROTECTIVE MOVEMENT.
UH, AND WITHIN THAT SIGNAL CONTROL, UH, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE KIND OF REQUIREMENTS, UM, UH, THROUGH SOME OF THE STATE AND FEDERAL, UH, GUIDANCES WHEN WE DO GIVE THAT GREEN BIKE INDICATION, UM, KIND OF YOU'RE ALLOWED TO EXPERIMENT OUTSIDE THIS, BUT THE ONLY HAVE ALLOWED IS THERE HAS TO BE NO CONFLICTING TURN MOVEMENT WITH THAT BIKE PHASE.
SO IT IS, WHEN YOU HAVE A GREEN BIKE PHASE, UM, WE HAVE TO RESTRICT ALL THE RIGHT TURNS, WE HAVE TO RESTRICT ALL THE LEFT TURNS, ANYTHING THAT CONFLICT WITH IT.
UM, SO WE'LL GET SOME EXAMPLES ON THESE TWO, UH, IN A MINUTE.
UM, AND THEN, YEAH, THE BICYCLE AND, UH, PEDESTRIAN DETECTION, YOU KNOW, PEDESTRIAN, THE TYPICAL HOLE, YOU GOT A PUSH BUTTON.
UM, THE TWO IN RICHARDSON FOR BIKE DETECTION ARE GONNA BE DIFFERENT.
AND THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT ON PURPOSE, UM, JUST TO TRY DIFFERENT THINGS TO SEE WHAT WORKS BETTER.
UM, GEOMETRY WAS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT AS WELL, BUT GREENVILLE, ARAPAHOE YOU'LL SEE EACH, THERE'S A DEDICATED PUSH BUTTON, UM, AT THAT LOCATION.
UM, VERSUS AT GLENVILLE AND COLLINS.
UM, IT'S A PASSIVE DETECTION, SO IT'S THE CAMERA PICKING UP YOU AS A BITE.
UM, BUT THERE IS A SIGN, UM, KINDA ON THE FAR SIDE, UH, WITH A BLUE LIGHT THAT WILL INDICATE IF THE BITE'S BEEN DETECTED.
UH, JUST TO GIVE YOU A CONFIRMATION THAT YOU'RE NOT GONNA SIT THERE FOR THE NEXT 10 MINUTES, THERE'S WAITING ON IT MODIFIED FACE, ARE THERE, ARE THERE TERM RESTRICTIONS FOR PEDESTRIANS AS WELL? UM, SO, SO IT'S ONE, UH, AND WE'LL GET INTO THIS MINUTE, BUT THE, WHEN THE BIKE IS UP, THE PEDESTRIANS ARE GONNA GO TO, SO IT'S, THE PEDESTRIAN PHASE IS GONNA BE LONGER THAN THE BIKE PHASE, SO IT'S NOT A FULLY PROTECTED, SO EVENTUALLY THERE WILL BE CONFLICTS WITH THAT, BUT IT'S KINDA LIKE A LONG LEADING PEDESTRIAN INTERVAL FOR THEM WHERE THEY'RE GONNA HAVE, YOU KNOW, ONE 15 SECONDS THAT THEY'RE
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ABLE TO GET IN THE CROSSWALK BEFORE 13 CONFLICTING WITH THE A CROSSWALK MOVEMENT AS WELL.SO IT DOES PROVIDE KIND A DUAL BENEFIT FOR THEM.
GREENVILLE, ARAPAHOE, THIS IS KIND OF A MAP OF WHAT IT USED TO LOOK LIKE, UM, WHERE KIND OF THOSE ARROWS IN GREEN WERE THE LANES THAT, YOU KNOW, IT, IT HAD BEEN A SIX, SIX LANE ARTERIAL ROADWAY, UM, BACK IN 20 20, 20 21.
UH, WE STRIPED THE, THE BIKE LANES, UH, TO MAKE IT A FOUR LANE WITH BIKE LANES ON THOSE OUTSIDE KINDA WHERE THE GREEN ARROWS ARE.
UM, BUT AS THE
SO BETWEEN THE RIGHT TURNS AND BETWEEN THE THREE LANES, UH, WHICH CREATES SOME COMFORT.
AND THEN YOUR KIND OF CONFLICT POINT IS A LITTLE BIT LEADING AS ALL THOSE RIGHT TURNS, UM, ACROSS THE BIKE LANE.
AND THIS IS, UH, KIND OF HOW IT UP NOW FOR THE SEE, UH, THE GREEN WHERE THE BIKES ARE.
YOU CAN SEE THE SEPARATE BIKE LANE IS PART OF THAT PROTECTED INTERSECTION.
UM, THIS ONE DID KEPT, SO IT WAS CHANNELIZED RIGHT TURNS ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER AND THE SOUTHWEST CORNER.
UM, BUT WE SIGNALED 'EM TO GIVE THAT WHOLE PROTECTION FOR THE, THE BICYCLE MOVEMENT.
UM, UH, AVOID THAT CONFLICT POINT FROM A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS SIDE THAT THERE'S A LOT OF SENSITIVITY WITH THIS INTERSECTION, UH, JUST WITH HOW CLOSE IT IS TO 75.
UM, BUT WE DID DO THE, THE PUSH BUTTON, UH, ONE FOR THE WAY KIND OF THE SIGNAL WILL CYCLE.
UM, IT WILL REALLY ONLY GET THE BIKE PHASE IF THE BIKE IS BIGGER, IF BIKE'S NOT THERE, IT KINDA OPERATES LIKE THE BIKE LANE DOESN'T EXIST.
UM, AND LET US REALLY HAVE A, A KIND OF A NORMAL FLOW TO GET REAL TRAFFIC.
I NOT CREATE A A A HUGE IMPACT THERE.
UM, BUT AT THE SAME TIME WHEN A BIKE IS THERE GIVING IT A FULL PROTECTION IN THAT BIKE FACE, UH, SO THEN IT'S KIND OF A GRAPHICAL POINT.
UH, SO YEAH, SO WHEN THE BIKES COME THROUGH, YOU CAN SEE THOSE RIGHT TURNS.
THEY, THEY HAVE A WHOLE RED WITH A NO TURN ON RED.
UM, AND THE BIKES ARE ABLE TO GO THROUGH, UM, THE FULL INTERSECTION DURING THAT BIKE PHASE.
UM, KIND OF TO YOUR QUESTION, WHAT'S GOING THROUGH IN THAT BIKE PHASE? UM, SO THIS INTERSECTION, UM, SINCE WE HAVE A DEDICATED RIGHT, WE ARE ABLE TO KEEP THEM, WE HAVE THAT BLANK OUT SIGN OUT THERE NOW, UM, THAT THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO TURN RIGHT.
BUT THE THROUGH MOVEMENT CAN GO WITH THE BIKE, WITH THE PETS, SO ALL THOSE CAN GO AT THE SAME TIME.
UM, AND AGAIN, THERE'S NO CONFLICT WITH ANY OF THOSE USERS.
UM, SO FROM A SAFETY SIDE WE'RE KIND OF REMOVING THAT CONFLICT POINT.
UM, GOING INTO, YOU KNOW, THESE INTERSECTIONS ARE NEWER, THERE ARE DIFFERENT KIND OF CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE FACED.
WE IMPLEMENT THESE, THIS ITERATIVE DESIGN.
UH, ONE WE HEARD ABOUT, UM, ON THIS ONE WAS SINCE WE SIGNALIZE THAT, UM, GENERALIZED RIGHT TURN, IT ALSO MEANT WE HAD TO, UM, INDICATE TO PEDESTRIANS WHEN THEY COULD CROSS THAT IS THAT RIGHT TURN? IT'S NOT JUST KIND OF A FREE MOVEMENT FOR THEM.
UM, AND SO ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WAS AS YOU CROSS ARAPAHOE, UM, YOU HAD TWO, UM, PEDESTRIAN INDICATIONS MM-HMM
UM, AND SO WE ENDED UP, UM, ADDING UBER AND TRYING TO KIND OF TURN ONE OF THE HEADS SO THAT YOU DON'T SEE FOLKS AT THE SAME TIME.
'CAUSE A LOT OF THE TIMES THEY'RE SHOWING THE SAME THING, BUT THEY'RE NOT.
UM, LIKE THIS IS ONE OF THE PICTURES THAT WE RECEIVED THE, AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PROJECT, UH, COLLINS.
AT GLENVILLE, THIS IS, UM, SIMILAR WHERE COLLINS IS KIND OF A SIMILAR CONFIGURATION TO HOW GREENVILLE IS.
UM, AND THE APPROACHES ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, UH, WHERE WHEN YOU'RE APPROACHING ON COLLINS PRIOR CONFIGURATION WAS A, THE BIKE LANE TRANSITIONED TO A SHARED BIKE LANE WITH A RIGHT TURN LANE.
UH, AND I THINK THAT'S HOW MOST OF OUR INTERSECTIONS ARE INTERSECTION IN WITH OUR BIKE LANES.
UM, AND SO LOT OF BIKE JUST KEEP GOING.
I KIND OF KNOW NO MANEUVERING THROUGH IT.
UH, YOU'D REALLY JUST BE LOOKING FOR, UM, RIGHT TURNING TRAFFIC, ENTERING THE BIKE PIPELINE.
UM, AS THE GLENVILLE PROJECT ADVANCED, WE ADDED NEW NORTH SOUTH, UH, SIDEWALK BUILDING PIPELINE ON GLENVILLE, UM, WHICH KIND OF WITHIN THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN WE'LL LOOK AT EXTENDING THE GLENVILLE ONES FURTHER NORTH, FURTHER SOUTH FOR, TO REALLY CREATE KIND OF A MAJOR NORTH SOUTH CORRIDOR.
AND SO WANTED TO LOOK AT THIS AS KIND OF A HUB OF TWO MAJOR, WHERE COLLINS IS A MAJOR EAST, WEST, UM, BIKE FACILITY, UM, ESPECIALLY WITH THE COLLINS OVERPASS PROJECT THAT'LL PULL IT OVER 75.
AND THEN GLENVILLE BEING, UM, THE LONG-TERM VISION OF UH, UH, ANOTHER MAJOR NORTH SOUTH, UH, OFF EAST SIDE OF TOWN.
UH, SO LOOKING AT THIS AT THE SUBJECT INTERSECTION OPPORTUNITY, UH, FOR THE, CREATES THAT DEDICATED SPACE FOR THE BIKES KINDA ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE INTERSECTION.
UM, IT ALLOWS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE MAKING A RIGHT TURN, YOU NEVER END UP END UP INTERACTING WITH TRAFFIC.
UM, AND THEN, UH, IF YOU'RE MAKING A LEFT TURN,
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YOU KNOW THE PRIOR CONFIGURATION, IF YOU'RE MAKING A LEFT TURN, UH, YOU'D EITHER DO KIND OF A TWO STAGE WHERE YOU KIND OF CROSS THE INTERSECTION, UM, KINDA WAIT IN THE THROUGH LANE OR IN A CROSSWALK SOMEWHERE, KIND OF A KIND OF NO MAN'S LAND.UM, OR YOU'D END UP HAVING TO CROSS MULTIPLE LANES OF TRAFFIC TO GET IN THE ACTUAL LEFT TURN BETA TO TO TURN LEFT, UH, ONTO COLLINS.
UM, SO WITHIN THE, IN THIS INTERSECTION DESIGN, IT KIND OF CREATES THAT DEDICATED SPACE FOR CYCLISTS, UM, MAKE ANY TURN INTO IT.
AGAIN, THAT SIGNAL PHASING THAT REDUCES CONFLICT.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE THAT DEDICATED PHASE, UH, WITHOUT, UH, CONFLICTING VEHICLE TRAFFIC.
SO THE KIND OF A BEFORE AND AFTER FROM, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF WHAT WE'RE HEARING IN THE BIKE COMMUNITY, UM, ESPECIALLY THE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING AT A FASTER SPEED AND ARE USED TO, UH, YOU KNOW, COLLIN HAS, UH, MORE GROUP RIDES AND MORE, UH, PEOPLE WHO ARE WANTING TO GO 20, 25, 30 MILES AN HOUR, UM, THE DESIGN, UM, THEY DON'T GET TO GO STRAIGHT ANYMORE AND IT IS, YOU KINDA HAVE TO DEVIATE YOUR BATH.
UM, AND THE OTHER PIECE OF IT BEING, UH, THERE WAS SOME CHALLENGES WITH, UM, JUST THE VISIBILITY OF THE ISLANDS AS YOU APPROACHED.
AND SO WE DID END UP PAINTING IT.
UH, SO YOU CAN SEE THAT BEFORE AND AFTER, UH, KIND OF THE CURB, UM, AS WELL AS ADDITIONAL GREEN PAINT TO HELP WITH THE CONTRACT AS WELL, SHOWING WHERE THAT WHITE SPACE GOES.
UM, BUT THE OTHER, AS YOU APPROACH IS WITH THE BIKE PHASE, GIVING THAT PROTECTION AND WHAT A GREENVILLE ARAPAHOE, WE'RE NOT GIVING IT ALL THE TIME, UM, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO AVOID, WE HAVE TO BASICALLY STOP A LOT OF VEHICLE TRAFFIC FOR THAT.
AND SO WHEN YOU'RE APPROACHING THE BIKE ON COLLINS, YOU ARE BASICALLY ALWAYS GONNA BE APPROACHING ON A RED LIGHT, UM, AND LOOKING, AND I THINK THE OTHER IS GETTING PEOPLE USED TO, YOU'RE NOT LOOKING AT THE VEHICLE HEADS KIND IN THE GREEN BOX, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE BIKE SIGNAL BASE IN THE RED BOX.
UM, AND SO IT'S ANOTHER, UH, A LOT OF KIND OF ADJUSTMENTS, UM, AS PEOPLE LOOK AT THIS.
UM, AND THAT WAS ONE I KNOW WE WORKING WITH THE ORIGINAL BIKE.
UM, SO CONVERSATION BACK AND FORTH WITH THEM IS, UH, WE ARE PLANNING A BIKE RIDE.
UH, WE'RE PROBABLY THIS INTERSECTION WILL BE ONE OF THOSE, UM, FOR, YEAH, WE'LL WATCH THAT.
WE KIND OF GO OVER HERE WITH EVERYONE, ANYONE WHO HAS QUESTIONS, WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT.
SO WHY DECISIONS MADE THE WAY THEY WERE, HOW DOES IT OPERATE? UM, TOTALLY HELP EDUCATE CLIENTS.
DESIGN ANOTHER CHALLENGE WE HAVE WITH THIS INTERSECTION, YOU CAN ACTUALLY DRIVE THE BEHAVIOR AS WELL.
UM, WE HAVE VERY INTERESTING, UM, OBSERVATIONS FROM IT.
SO PEOPLE'S DRIVERS ARE ALSO USED TO THE SHARED LAYING ON THE OUTSIDE.
UM, SO THEY ARE ALSO TRYING TO ENTER THE WHITE PLANE AND TURN RIGHT FROM THERE.
UM, IT'S A MIX OF, SOME OF 'EM DO IT, UM, SOME OF 'EM CAN GET IN THERE AND THEN THEY START BACKING UP.
SO, UM, SO WE'RE WORKING ON SOME OF THAT.
UH, THE OTHER KIND OF WITH A TIGHTER TURN, SOME OF IT'S ALSO JUST OVERALL KIND OF ROAD SECTION ON GLENVILLE IS KIND OF THAT RED LINE.
UH, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO JUST START DRIVING THE WRONG WAY ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE ROAD.
WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME FIRST LINE ENHANCEMENTS, SO HOW DO WE HELP GUIDE PEOPLE AS BEST WE CAN, UM, UH, TO DO THAT.
THE OTHER, THIS ONE, THIS PROJECT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT WHERE, YOU KNOW, GREENVILLE, ARAPAHOE, WE HAVE THOSE BLANK OUT KIND OF NO TURN SIGNS, UM, VERSUS IF WE USE THE STATIC, UH, JUST THE STANDARD SIGN.
UM, AND SO WE'VE HAD SOME COMPLIANCE ISSUES, UM, AND GETTING CALLS AND JUST DRIVERS FRUSTRATED THAT, HEY, THERE'S NO BIKES AROUND, WHY CAN'T I TURN? UM, AND SO LOOKING AT CONVERTING THOSE TO, TO THE BLANK OUT SIGNS, UH, JUST THAT IT ALLOWS VEHICLE MOVEMENT, THERE'S NO BIKES AROUND, BUT THEN BE ABLE TO TURN IT ON TO, TO AVOID THAT CONFLICT, UH, WHEN WE DO NEED IT.
UH, AND IT IS ONE, WE'VE GOT A LOT BETTER FOR CLIENT FOR A BLANK OUT SIGN THAN WE DO, BUT UH, THESE STATIC SIGNS, SO OVERALL IT'S UM, IT'S NEW TO EVERYONE.
SO IF YOU'VE BEEN THROUGH IT, UH, YOU MAY LOVE IT, YOU MAY HATE IT.
UH, IT IS NEW TO EVERYONE, EVERYONE'S ADJUSTING TO IT.
UM, WITH THESE BEING SO NEW, IT'S ALSO AN ITERATIVE PROCESS THAT THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS IN DESIGN THAT YOU DO THE BEST YOU CAN.
AND THEN KINDA IN CONSTRUCTION YOU START SEEING DIFFERENT ISSUES LIKE THE SIGNAL PIECES AND, AND SOME OF THOSE.
SO, UM, WORKING THROUGH THOSE.
AND SO AS WE RECEIVE FEEDBACK, WE ARE CONTINUE TO MONITOR AND EVALUATE AND LOOK AT THOSE.
UM, AND THE OTHER KIND OF SHIFT FOR EVERYONE IS IT IS DESIGNING MORE FOR A SAFETY, UH, OVER SPEED SPEEDS IS, YEAH, IT'S GONNA BE HARDER TO GO REALLY FAST THROUGH THESE INTERSECTIONS.
UM, YOU MAY HAVE SOME MORE DELAY, BUT, UH, LOOKING AT OVERALL SAFETY, UH, FOR ALL USERS AT THESE, UM, INTERSECTIONS.
UH, AND KINDA LASTLY JUST LOOKING AT COMMUNITY, UH, EDUCATION.
WE GET THAT COMMUNITY BIKE RIDE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, HOSTED BY THE BIKE COALITION.
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GETTING THAT WEST PAGE SET UP AND THEN, UH, WE WILL END UP HAVING SOME INFORMATION.WE'LL HAVE TABLE, SO SAFETY EXPO, UH, HERE, UH, NEXT WEEK.
UM, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE OUR BIKE RODEO IN OCTOBER.
UH, THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT BOTH OF THOSE IN A LITTLE BIT ALSO, UM, BUT UH, HAVING SOME INFORMATION AT THOSE AS WELL OPEN IT UP.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE MEMBERS FOR DANIEL? I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE CHANGE THAT MADE THOSE LESS AND IT IS MUCH NICER NOW.
UM, THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER ONE WE'RE LOOKING AT YOU.
WHAT KIND OF EXPERIMENTAL OFF THE STANDARD GUIDANCE, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO DO THAT.
AND YOU ARE LOOKING AT WHAT EXPERIMENT WITH WHAT TO BE COMFORTABLE WITH.
UM, THE OTHER, IF YOU ARE COMFORTABLE GOING WITH TRAFFIC, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE TIMES, ESPECIALLY THE TIME OF DAY CERTAIN RIDE OR YOU KNOW, WEEKENDS THAT RISE GO THROUGH COLLINS, THERE'S VERY LITTLE TRAFFIC ON COLLINS.
UH, THAT THAT IS ONE THEY CAN HOP OUT AS A BIKE LANE INTO THE VEHICLE LANE AND JUST GO THROUGH IF THEY'RE REALLY WANTING TO AVOID IT.
UM, THAT'D BE KIND OF THE, THE OTHER APPROACH, ESPECIALLY WITH LIKE A GROUP RIDE, THESE AREN'T GONNA BE TIGHTER THAT LIKE A BIG GROUP RIDE OF IN POINT EQUAL GONNA BE HARSH.
EVERYONE THROUGH THAT YOU ARE TAYLOR, HOP OUT AND THEN HOP BACK IN BASED OFF YOUR COMFORT LEVEL.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? SO NEXT WE HAVE A PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION ON E-BIKES AND EMOS I FOLKS TO BE ABLE G TO PRESENT.
HI, YOU UH, I WAS JUST GONNA DO A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF JUST LEGAL DEFINITIONS OF WHAT AN E-BIKE IS VERSUS WHAT'S NOT LEGALLY CLASSIFIED RIGHT NOW.
AND SO I'LL JUST GO OVER THAT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT VERSION WHAT RICHARD P OR CAN SEE AS WELL AS ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ABOUT THAT.
SO JUST STARTING OFF WITH THE KEY DEPICTS BETWEEN AN EBIKE AND AN E MOTORCYCLE OR EMO, AN EBU IS QUALIFIED AS A MOTOR THAT HAS LESS THAN 750 WATTS, UH, A PEDALS AND THEN IT MEETS ONE OF THREE CLASSES.
UH, FOR CLASS ONE, THE MAX ASSIST IS 20 MILES AN HOUR, WHICH THIS IS ONLY THROUGH THE PICKUP PEDAL ASSIST.
AND THIS MAX ASSIST MEANS THAT, UH, THE ELECTRIC MOTOR WILL ONLY HELP SUPPORT THEM UP TO 20.
THEY'RE ABLE TO GO PAST, BUT THAT IS BASED ON THEIR RIDER'S ABILITY.
UH, OUTSIDE OF THAT CLASS TWO, I'LL THROW UP THE MAXIS TO 20 MILES AN HOUR, BUT INSTEAD OF JUST BEING PEDAL ASSIST, IT ALSO HAS A THROTTLE WHERE THE RIDER DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ACTIVELY PEDDLING TO GET UP THE T AND THEN CLASS THREE, WHICH IS THE FASTEST, IS 28 MILES AN HOUR, BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE A THROTTLE BACK TO THE PEDAL ASSIST.
UH, AND THEN TEXAS LAW ADDED AN ADDITIONAL ITEM WHERE A RIDER MUST BE 15 YEARS OLD TO RIDE THIS.
AND SO OUTSIDE OF THAT THERE'S CLASSIFICATIONS THAT PEOPLE ARE GENERALLY CALLING EMOTO'S OR OTHERWISE KNOWN AS E MOTORCYCLES GENERALLY CLASSIFIED AS ABOVE 750 WATT LIMIT, UH, FROM AN EBI, THEIR SPEEDS GET OVER 25 OR 28 MILES AN HOUR, THEY SORT OF LOOK LIKE A BIKE OR THEY CAN GO WARM DIRT BIKE OR MOTORCYCLE EDGE.
UH, YOU MIGHT SEE SOME PEDALS ON 'EM, BUT THEY'RE USUALLY NON OPERABLE AS WELL AS THEY PRIMARILY USE A THROTTLE ASSIST JUST BECAUSE THEY DON'T PAY PEDAL.
SO THAT'S HOW THEY PRIMARILY FUNCTION.
UH, AND SO THIS SORT OF JUST MATTERS AND WHY I WAS EXPLAINING THIS IS JUST THAT THERE'S NEW TECHNOLOGY AVAILABLE CONSUMERS, UH, THAT'S CHALLENGING WHAT THE EXISTING DEFINITIONS OF E-BIKES AS WELL AS LIKE MOTOR VEHICLES CAN, WE CAN SEE OUT THERE.
AND JUST SO YOU UNDERSTAND WHERE TEXAS STATE LAW IS CURRENTLY, I GOT A COUPLE THINGS DO THAT.
ONE OF THE CHALLENGES IS WHEN YOU SEE A E-BIKE, I CAN'T TELL YOU BY LOOKING AT IT WHETHER IT'S OVER 750 WATTS.
SO IDENTIFYING WHETHER IT SHOULD BE CLASSIFIED AS AN E MOTORCYCLE OR AN E-BIKE SOMETIMES GETS KIND OF COMPLICATED.
WE CAN'T STOP A MOTORIST TO CHECK THE SIZE OF THEIR ENGINE IF THEY ARE STOPPED FOR SOME OTHER REASON, WE CAN START LOOKING AT THOSE THINGS.
BUT, UH, IT DOES GET A LITTLE CHALLENGING.
A LOT OF THESE THINGS ARE SOLD AS E-BIKES.
THE PARENTS HAVE NO CLUE THAT IT ACTUALLY CAN GO 35, 40 MILES AN HOUR.
SO A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE BUYING WHAT THEY THINK IS AN E-BIKE AND IT'S REALLY NOT.
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E MOTORCYCLE IS PROBABLY THE EASIEST TERM FOR IT.AND YOU CAN ALSO MODIFY SOME OF THESE, UH, ELECTRICAL COVERS ONCE YOU BUY 'EM WHERE YOU CAN GET IT TO GO WELL OVER 28 MILES PER HOUR.
SO IT'S DIFFICULT TO IDENTIFY THERE.
THERE'S NO MINIMUM AGE LIMIT ON THE CLASS WE WANT TO DO AS WELL.
SO YOU SEE AWFULLY YOUNG KIDS GETTING ALL THESE THINGS GOING.
I WONDER AS FAR AS LICENSING, WHERE'S THE, WHERE'S THE
YEAH, THE EMO TREATED JUST LIKE A MOTORCYCLE STATE LAW.
SO YEAH, GOING ON THAT, LIKE THEY DO AFFECT THE CLASSIFICATION HEAVILY IMPACTS WHERE, HOW THESE ARE ABLE TO OPERATE AND WHERE THEY'RE LEGALLY ALLOWED TO OPERATE.
SO AN E-BIKE TO MEET FOR, TO MEET LEGAL DEFINITION, IT HAS TO MEET ALL THOSE REQUIREMENTS BEING IN THAT POWER CATEGORY, THE PEDALS AND THE CLASS REQUIREMENT.
AND IF IT HIT SPEEDS ABOVE THAT LEGALLY IT'S NOT CONSIDERED AN E-BIKE.
SO THEN IT WOULD BE CONSIDERED AN EMOTO.
UH, IF THE E-BIKE MEET OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS, IT IS, IT HAS THE SAME LAWS AND REGULATIONS THAT A NORMAL BICYCLE WILL BE ABLE TO AND CITIES ARE NOT ABLE TO PROHIBIT WHERE THEY CAN GO EXCEPT ON SOME TRAILS DEPENDING ON LIKE, UH, ECOLOGICAL, UH, ENVIRONMENTS AS WELL.
UH, BUT E MOTORCYCLES SORT OF
UH, IN CITY OF RICHARDSON WE ALSO PROHIBITED EMOTO, SO THESE PASSENGER VEHICLES FROM BEING ON TRAILS AND PARTS AS FAR OUR ORDINANCES AND JUST AGAIN, IT JUST SORT OF IMPACTS WHERE THESE VEHICLES CAN BE LEGALLY OPERATED.
AND, UH, WHAT'S GOING ON OUT THERE SUCH OFFICER? NO, I MEAN IT SIMPLY FROM AN ENFORCEMENT STANDPOINT, AN E-BIKE IS THE SAME AS A BICYCLE.
AN E MOTORCYCLE IS THE SAME AS A MOTORCYCLE.
SO WHERE THEY CAN RIDE WHAT VIOLATIONS THEY HAVE AND WHAT RULES THEY FOLLOW ARE THE SAME AS A BICYCLE AND MOTORCYCLE.
THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT OF LOOKS LIKE KIDS RIDING SOME VERY POWERFUL LOOKING VEHICLES.
IT IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO TELL BY LOOKING HOW POWERFUL IT IS UNLESS YOU HAVE YOU CATCH IT GOING OVER 20.
BUT IT ONLY PEDALS 28 MILES AN HOUR.
IF I CAN PEDAL 28 MILES AN HOUR YEAH.
SO FOR ALL EMOTO'S, YOU NEED A CLASS M LICENSE? YES, FOR AN EMOTO.
UH, SO FOUR OVER 28 MILES PER HOUR, EVEN IF IT, IT DOES HAVE A SMALLER YEAH.
I KNOW KINDA OVER THE SUMMER THERE WAS A LOT OF FEEDBACK COMING IN FROM THE COMMUNITY ON IT.
CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ENFORCEMENT KINDA AS WE GET INTO SCHOOL YEAR? IS THAT SLOWING DOWN NOW OR HOW'S THAT? YEAH, WE REALLY HAVEN'T SEEN A LOT OF ENFORCEMENT RECENTLY.
I THINK WHEN THEY WERE BRAND NEW, UH, PEOPLE WERE A LITTLE CRAZIER WITH THEM.
UH, I THINK MOST PEOPLE NOW FIGURED OUT WHERE THEY CAN AND CAN'T HAVE THE E-BIKE.
UH, SO I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE, WE'VE DONE A LOT MORE EDUCATING THAN ACTUAL ENFORCEMENT, I THINK.
BUT AGAIN, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHETHER IT'S AN E MOTORCYCLE VERSUS AN E-BIKE, IT'S ALMOST POSSIBLE TO TELL JUST BY LOOKING.
UH, SO WE WERE JUST GONNA OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION.
IF ANYONE WANTS TO LIKE, SHARE LIKE IF THEY'VE HAD ANY EXPERIENCE OR E-BIKES OR EMOTO'S ON TRAILS OR LOCAL ROADS, LIKE WHAT THEY'VE SEEN, UH, AS WELL AS, AND THESE ARE JUST SORT OF SOME GUIDING QUESTIONS JUST TO THINK ABOUT IF YOU HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS, WE'RE OPEN TO THOSE TWO OF COURSE.
BUT LIKE, OR IF THERE'S LIKE SPECIFIC GAPS IN LIKE YOUR GUYS' KNOWLEDGE OR LIKE WHAT YOU'VE KNOW FROM THE COMMUNITY OR PEOPLE YOU'VE TALKED TO ABOUT LIKE WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE EDUCATED OR LIKE JUST OPPORTUNITIES TO SHARE MORE ABOUT THESE DEVICES.
I WOULD, I WOULD JUST SAY THAT I, I'M, I, I TRY TO AVOID IT, BUT PART OF MY NORMAL DUTIES WITH THE CITY IS TO KIND OF KEEP TABS ON, YOU KNOW, ITEMS OF INTEREST AND CONCERN OUT THERE.
IE THROUGH NEXT DOOR, UH, HERE WITHIN THE LAST, YOU KNOW, THREE TO FOUR OR FIVE WEEKS, IT'S BECOMING A, YOU KNOW, KNOW, AND YOU CAN'T EVER TELL WHETHER IT'S IN RICHARDSON OR DALLAS OR PLANO, GARLAND, WHAT HAVE YOU.
BUT THERE'S A LOT OF, THERE'S A LOT OF CHATTER OUT THERE ABOUT, ABOUT THE, THE E-BIKES AND KIND OF THE RECKLESSNESS THAT, THAT SOME CITIZENS ARE REPORTING.
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COCHLEAR'S POINT, IT'S THE ENFORCEMENT IS, IS REALLY TOUGH.BUT I, WELL THE OTHER THING THAT CONCERNS ME IS SO MANY OF THESE KIDS ARE NOT WEARING HELMETS.
THAT'S MORE, IS MY NEXT QUESTION.
WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE THE HELMETS? ANY KIDS, ANYBODY UNDER 18 WEAR HELMET REQUIREMENT? NO.
WELL, IT WOULD BE FOR AN E MOTORCYCLE.
THERE'S NO HELMET REQUIREMENT FOR BICYCLE.
SAME AS BICYCLE, SAME AS A MOTORCYCLE.
IF IT'S AN EMOTO IT SAME AS A BUT WHAT ABOUT A BICYCLE? NO, I THOUGHT THERE WAS A REQUIREMENT FOR KIDS.
I DON'T KNOW IT, I THOUGHT, I MEAN ADULTS, WHICH I THINK THEY SHOULD ALSO WEAR HELMET, BUT MM-HMM
I'M NOT AWARE OF THE CITY ORDINANCE OR RIVER STATE LAW THAT REQUIRES WOW.
WHAT ABOUT SIDEWALK USAGE? NO, SEE A LOT OF, UH, BUT YOU BETTER REMEMBER I HAVEN'T BEEN ON THE STREETS OR WRITTEN A TICKET IN A LONG TIME.
I SEE IT MORE SO IN DALLAS, I SEE A LOT OF SCOOTERS AND THE BIKE.
SO YEAH, IT WOULD BE FOR AN E-BIKE AS LONG AS LIKE THE LOCAL CITY HASN'T PROHIBITED FIGHT THE SIDE, THEY'RE ALLOWED TO BE THERE.
I THINK THE SAME, THE DIFFERENCE IS THE SAME AS ANYTHING.
YOU NEED TO HAVE COMMON COURTESY.
OKAY, I MIGHT RIDE MY REGULAR BIKE, I MIGHT RIDE MY E-BIKE ON A TRAIL AND I'M STILL GONNA LOOK OUT, SLOW DOWN AND YIELD TO PEDESTRIANS.
IT'S THE SAME PEOPLE COULD BE RIDING WHATEVER BIKE.
THEY'RE NOT GONNA DO IT REGARDLESS OF WHETHER IT'S GOT A MOTOR OR NOT.
SO YOU, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE, THERE'S NO STATE LAW ON HELMETS.
THERE'S SOME CITIES THAT WILL, THAT LOCALLY, UH, ADOPT REGULATIONS ON IT.
RICHARDSON DOES NOT HAVE A LOCAL REGULATION ON USE.
REALLY? UH, SIMILAR SIDEWALK WRITINGS.
CITIES CAN, WE CAN RESTRICT RIDING SIDEWALKS, BUT IT WOULD BE THE WAY STATE LAW IS, IS WE HAVE A CREEK, YOU WERE SAYING THAT BEFORE, E BIKE THE SAME AS A BIKE.
SO IF WE, YOU CAN'T RESTRICT ONE OR THE OTHER, IT WOULD, IT'S RESTRICTING AND RESTRICTING BOTH.
SO IT IS LIKE, LIKE JEALOUS AS A RESTRICTING.
YOU CAN'T RIDE BIKES ON SIDEWALKS OF DOWNTOWN.
UM, AND SO THAT WOULD COVER BOTH BIKES AND E-BIKES RESTRICT ANYWHERE, HUH.
BUT YEAH, IT RESTRICT OTHERWISE TAKE A LOT.
YOU CAN'T, UH, DIFFERENTIATE SOME PLACES, UH, RESTRICTIONS ON LIKE SPEED.
SO YOU'RE SAYING LIKE, ALL RIGHT, YOU CAN'T RIDE MORE THAN 15 MILE AN HOUR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IT IS.
THAT'S ANOTHER REALLY HARD TO ENFORCE OF LIKE WHO'S, WHO'S SPENDING THE TIME TO THE FORCE BY SPEED LIMITS.
UM, BUT IS ANOTHER APPROACH THAT'S BEEN TAKE IN AS WELL SAY INFOGRAPHIC.
THAT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION ON IT.
IT JUST, IT SAYS 2000 LOTS OR MORE.
I ASSUME THAT'S TYPICAL, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S A NO MAN'S LIFE WITH SEVEN 15 2000.
SO, SO IT'S ANYTHING OVER SEVEN 50? YES, WOULD BE.
YEAH, WE GAVE THAT ON HANDOUT.
THIS WAS ALSO IN RICHARDSON TODAY, UM, IN THE JULY ISSUE I THINK.
SO IT IS HIGHER THAN SEVEN 50.
IT IS OUTSIDE THE LEGAL DEFINITION.
BUT I BELIEVE YOU 2000 VEHICLE.
THEY LOOK LIKE THEY LOOK LIKE MORE 70.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS OR SORRY, I'M SORRY THEN JUST FOR WHAT WE'LL BE DOING NEXT IS WE'LL JUST LIKE TAKE WHAT YOU GUYS WERE ASKING ABOUT FOR FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES, HELP EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ABOUT WHAT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN E-BIKE AND EMOTO AND JUST HELPING OUT WHAT THEY'RE BUYING, UH, SO THEY CAN HELP PREVENT THE LITTLE FASTER WHAT'S GETTING ON THE STREET.
WOULD IT HELP TO TALK TO THE BIKE SHOPS THAT SELL THESE THINGS SO THAT THEY CAN REMIND PEOPLE WHO BUY THESE POWERFUL MACHINES THAT THIS IS A LEGAL MOTOR VEHICLE AND CANNOT BE RIDDEN AS A BICYCLE AND MAYBE THEY NEED TO GIVE THE, THAT, THAT FEEDBACK TO THEIR CLIENTS? I THINK A LOT OF 'EM ARE ONLINE.
UH, TRUE AS A REGIONAL, UH, FEEDBACK.
THERE'S, UH, A PRESENTATION BY A POLICE OFFICER FROM PROSPER, UM, ON THIS TOPIC, ON THIS TOPIC IS PROSPER, UM, IMPLEMENTED A E-BIKE REGISTRATION PROGRAM.
AND THEY DO A WHOLE INSPECTION AND UM, GIVE YOU A STICKER AND ALL THIS.
UM, BUT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT IT IS A LOT ONLINE AND
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THEN SOME, UH, SOUNDED LIKE I THINK WALMART, LIKE MARK ABSOLUTELY.IT WAS LIKE WALMART AND AMAZON WERE KIND OF, ONCE THEY SAW WHAT I WAS LIKE, WALMART STARTED TAKING A LOT LAW, ESPECIALLY THE KINDS THAT ARE REALLY JUST NOT LEGAL ON ANY PUBLIC FACILITY.
UM, BUT IT'S HARD WITH HOW MANY ARE CHEAP AND MM-HMM.
UM, BUT YEAH, I KNOW BIKE SHOPS I'M SURE AS WELL AS FAR AS HELMET, ARE THE HELMETS FOR THE BIKES SAME AS REGULAR BICYCLE HELMET? YEAH, I MEAN A REGULAR BIKE, YES.
YOU CAN'T TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MY REGULAR BIKE AND MY EPRO BIKE AND IT LOOKED THE SAME.
AND THEN FOR MY EMOTO'S, THE HELMET WOULD BE THE SAME THING ON MOTORCYCLE.
BUT AREN'T MOTORCYCLE HELMETS NOT REQUIRED? THEY ARE REQUIRED UNLESS YOU TAKE OUT A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF INSURANCE.
I CAN'T TELL YOU THE DOLLAR AMOUNT.
SO WHEN YOU'RE BASICALLY SELF-INSURED, THAT BRINGS UP ANOTHER QUESTION.
I ASSUME THAT THEIR KIDS ARE NOT INSURED.
I MEAN THEIR PARENTS ARE, BUT PROBABLY NOT.
IT ALSO SPEAKS SO MUCH TO THE, THE SIDEWALK VERSUS THE STREET.
SO IF YOU'RE ON AN ACTUAL B BIKE, I CAN SEE KIDS DECIDING TO TAKE THE SIDEWALK BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEIR PARENTS HAVE TOLD THEM NOT TO BIKE IN TRAFFIC.
BUT AGAIN, IT'S ABOUT THE SPEED LIMIT.
YOU SHOULDN'T BE GOING 28 MILES AN HOUR ON A SIDEWALK.
NO MATTER WHAT BIKE YOU'VE GOT.
SO NEXT IS THE PRESENTATION RESPONSE OF ACTIVE TRUMP COMMUNITY.
WILL THAT, UH, SO JUST LET CONTINUE KNOW OF OUR UPCOMING COMMUNITY EVENTS.
UH, AS DANIEL MENTIONED, NEXT SATURDAY ON
UH, I GONNA HAVE THE HELICOPTER AGAIN.
THE HELICOPTER SHOULD BE THERE.
UH, SO PLEASE COME OUT IF YOU CAN MAKE IT.
AND THEN OCTOBER IS NATIONAL PEDESTRIAN SAFETY MONTH.
UH, SO PART OF THAT WILL BE ON WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER SEVENTH'S NATIONAL WALK BY TO SCHOOL DAY.
SO YOU MIGHT SEE SOME SCHOOL EVENTS AND THAT.
AND THEN LATER IN OCTOBER ON SATURDAY OCTOBER 24TH, WE HAVE OUR CY BIKE RODEO ALSO AT
UM, AND THEN IMMEDIATELY AFTER WE HAVE OUR COMMUNITY BIKE RIDE, UH, TO LOOK AT OUR PROTECTED INTERSECTIONS AS WELL AS, UH, OTHER ITEMS JUST IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE BIKE RODEO.
SO IF YOU'D LIKE TO PARTICIPATE, JUST PLEASE CALL, WE'LL SEE THAT MM-HMM
AND BRIEF UPDATE ON THE SACRED STREETS.
SO THE ACTION PLANS, UM, AT THE LAST MEETING, WE CAN WALK THROUGH THIS BRIEFLY, I BEHALF FEBRUARY 16TH.
THERE WAS BRIEFING COUNCIL, UM, WHICH PROVIDED A LOT OF THE BACKGROUND, UM, THAT YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN THROUGH SOME INPUT.
UM, REALLY A VISION STATEMENT FROM PRINCIPAL CP ANALYSIS THAT, UM, OVER THE SUMMER WE HAD, UH, THE SECOND MOVIE SURVEY LOOKOUT IMPLIED AND PRESENTATION.
THEY KINDA LOOK OUT OVERALL OUTLINE OF THE PLAN, UH, KIND OF THE DIFFERENT ELEMENTS IN THE DRILL AND ACTIONS OUT OF IT.
UM, WE GOT 267 RESPONSES, WHICH, UM, WE, I THINK A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN THE FIRST SURVEY, BUT GENERALLY IN LINE WITH, UH, HOW MANY WE HAD, UH, IN THE FIRST, UH, INPUT SURVEY.
UM, SO WE'RE MOVING FORWARD LOOKING AT A, A BRIEFING TO COUNCIL, UH, OF THE OVERALL DRAFT PLAN IN OCTOBER.
UM, AND THEN NEXT STEP IS, UH, KIND THE FINAL PIECE OF THIS.
THERE'S A DEMONSTRATION PROJECT THAT WAS FUNDED THROUGH THE GRANT, UH, WHERE YEAH, WE'RE TESTING A GPS BASED EMERGENCY VEHICLE PREEMPTION, UH, WHICH IS, UH, JUST RIGHT IN THAT IT, IT HELPS, UH, EMERGENCY VEHICLES GET THROUGH OUR SIGNALS, UM, EASIER AND FASTER.
UM, SO WORKING AT A FIRE STATION ONE, WHICH IS ALL GREENVILLE NEAR MAIN STREET.
UM, BUT HOW DO THEY KIND OF NAVIGATE OUR SIGNALS TO HELP, UH, GET TO, UH, ANY ISSUES OR INCIDENTS, UH, FASTER FROM THAT.
SURVEY NUMBER TWO, JUST A COUPLE, YOU KNOW, SUMMARY POINTS.
UM, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS WAS ABOUT FIVE QUESTIONS ON THE SURVEY.
WE MADE IT AS QUICK AS WE CAN, UH,
UM, SO YEAH, OVERALL 78% PEOPLE SUPPORTED THE OVERALL VISION OF SACRED CHIEF RICHARDSON PLAN.
UM, 83% DELTA PROPOSED RECOMMENDATIONS, ADDRESS PURCHASING, TRANSPORTATION, SAFETY NEEDS.
UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, ONE WAS LOOKING AT IMPLEMENTATION, LIKE WHAT ARE, WHAT MAY BE CHALLENGES, UM, AS WE LOOK TO IMPLEMENT THE PLAN, UH, WITH, UH, FUNDING BEING
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THE, THE NUMBER ONE ITEM.PUBLIC UNDERSTANDING, LOOKING AT HOW WE COMMUNITY AND UM, YOU KNOW, THE BENEFIT OF DIFFERENT, UH, CHANGES AND SOME OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, OUR DRINKING POLICIES.
UM, AND THEN YEAH, ENFORCEMENT LIMITATION.
STATE THAT FIRST ONE THING, UH, AND THEN GO INTO OUR EXIT TRANSP PROJECTS.
UH, TALKING BELL TRAIL WILL ADDRESS THE MAKE SLIDES.
UM, BRECKENRIDGE TRAIL IS STILL EXPECTED WITH CONSTRUCTION EXPECTED TO START IN 2027, UH, WHICH IS A CITY OF PLANO PROJECT.
NORTH COLLINS BOULEVARD IS
THE PROJECT WITH CONSTRUCTION ESTIMATED BEGINNING, UH, LATE 2027 THROUGHOUT THE COAST TRAIL WAS CURRENTLY UNDER DESIGN AND WITH
AND THEN CENTRAL TRAIL AS WELL, CONSTRUCTION EITHER STARTING LATE THIS YEAR OR EARLY NEXT YEAR.
YOU CAN SEE A LOT OF STUFF IS ABOUT TO START CONSTRUCTION.
A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS PROBABLY HEARD YOU STARTED ON THIS COMMITTEE.
UH, BUT THEY ARE FINALLY MOVING FORWARD.
SO LIKE THE COLLINS OVERPASS PROJECT.
SO THAT ONE IS MANAGED BY TECHCO.
UM, SO WE SAY YOU DON'T HAVE, UH, A TON OF CONTROL ON, UH, THE SPEED WHICH THAT GETS IMPLEMENTED.
UM, BUT YEAH, TEXT IS, UH, CURRENTLY THEY'VE DID IT.
THEY'RE LOOKING TO AWARD THE PROJECT NOW.
AND SO KIND OF BASED ON THEIR TIMELINE ON HOW LONG TO MOBILIZE THAT CONTRACTOR, WE'RE SAYING, UH, PROBABLY EARLY IN 2027 WE'LL START SEEING SOME WORK OUT THERE.
BUT THAT WILL PULL BY ACROSS COLLINS BRIDGE ALL THE WAY UP TO, TO CAMPBELL TO TIE IN.
ARE ANY OF THESE PROJECTS AFFECTED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WANTING TO DEFUND WOKE BIKE LANES? NOT YET.
NOT THAT WE HAVE HEARD OF ANYTHING GOOD.
UH, THESE ARE ALL, A LOT OF THE FEDERAL MONIES, THE DISCRETIONARY FUNDS, UH, VERSUS THESE ARE MORE FORMULA FUNDS AND SO THERE'S LESS ABILITY FOR THE FEDERAL TO, TO GET INVOLVED, UM, VERSUS DISCRETIONARY FUNDS, UM, OFTENTIMES STRAIGHT FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, UM, VERSUS THIS ONE'S FLOWING THROUGH TECH DOT AND SO IT'S USUALLY KIND OF A FORMULA FUND THAT IS A LITTLE BIT MORE DISTURBED.
SO, BUT YES, ESSENTIALLY DO NOT HAVING PROJECTS INFECTED AT THIS POINT.
DOES ARAPAHOE TRAIL INCLUDE RF B TIE INTO THE MUNICIPAL CAMPUS? THAT PROJECT WILL ADD A MIDLOCK CROSSING WITH AN RFB SIMILAR TO THE ONES WE PUT ON, UH, WEST SPRING VALLEY.
SO IT'S LIKE AN OVERHEAD VERSUS JUST LIKE SIDE POLES, YOU KNOW, LIKE AN OVERHEAD RP, THE UM, BUT YEAH, LOCATED KIND OF AT THE PLAZA AREA, UM, TO HELP CROSS IT'S, IT'S ALIGNING WITH SOME OF THE BUS STOPS THAT ARE OVER THERE.
SO IT CAN ALSO HELP KIND OF TRANSIT ACCESS, BUT ALSO YOU HAVE TRAIL ACCESS TO THE, AND THEN GO INTO A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ON ABOUT TRAIL UPDATES.
UH, THIS IS JUST A OVERALL LOOK OF WHAT'S BEEN COMPLETED, WHAT'S STILL BEING WORKED ON, UH, AS WELL AS THE FUTURE TRAIL SECTION THAT WILL BE COMING, UH, WITH A FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.
UH, SO STARTING AT CITY LINE STATION, UH, NOT TOO MUCH THIS YEAR HERE, UH, THEY WERE OUT THERE AND THEY MARKED IT WITH SOME GREEN BIKE LANES.
UH,
UH, AND BECAUSE OF THAT, AS DANIEL MENTIONED, THEY WERE ABLE, THEY'RE ABLE TO START, UH, WORKING ON THE
SO THEY EXCAVATIONS, IF IT WAS, I, YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN THAT GAP KIND OF NEAR THE RED MOON LABEL MM-HMM.
UP THAT TRAIL GOING
UM, AND THAT'S BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY BEEN THEIR ACCESS POINT, UH, INTO THE CREEK AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE THEY NEEDED ACCESS FOR SOME OF THEIR CRANE AND SOME OF THEIR OPERATIONS FOR THE ARCH.
UM, IS, AND THEN SINCE ARCHES GOT DONE, NOW THEY CAN GET IN THERE, UM, THERE'S SOME EXCAVATION, UH, WHICH WAS KIND OF A, A FLOOD PLAIN MEDICATION, UH, BECAUSE OF THE BRIDGE, UH, THAT THEY ARE STARTING TO WRAP THAT UP NOW.
UM, AND THEN THEY CAN KIND OF MOVE ALL THEIR VEHICLES AND PUSH IT OUT OF THAT, THE BRIDGE AREA AND ALLOWS THEM TO, UM, FINISH UP AND PULL THE REST OF THE TRAILER TO, AND TRAILS GONNA BE THAT HIGH.
THE TRAIL GONNA BE LOW UP HIGH, LIKE THE TRAIN TRACKS NOT AS HIGH AS THE TRAIN TRACKS? NO, THE THE TRAILS, YEAH, THE
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TRAIL'S DOWN LOWER.UM, SO YOU CAN SEE THE, THE BRIDGE THAT GOES UNDER THE TRAIN BRIDGE THAT GOES KIND OF LIKE TO RIGHT ON THE SCREEN, GOES ACROSS THE CREEK.
THAT'S GONNA BE YOUR TRAIL BRIDGE AND IT KIND OF CURVES ALONG THE TOP OF THE BANK.
AND THEN IT'LL TIE OVER TO RED MOON, MADAM CHAIR.
COULD I ASK ONE OF THE STAFF MEMBERS TO ACTUALLY POINT, POINT THAT OUT UP THERE? I GOT MAYBE WITH YOUR MOUTH.
ALRIGHT, SO YOU GOT THE TRAIN HERE? YEAH, SO THIS IS THE TRAIL BRIDGE.
SO YOU GOT THE EXISTING SPRING CREEK TRAIL, WHICH THIS ONE GOES INTO SPRING CREEK NATURE AREA.
THIS ONE KIND OF GOES BACK TOWARDS ALMA, SO YOU'LL HAVE A NEW BRIDGE.
SO AND THEN IT GOES UNDER THE HIGHWAY.
YEAH, SO IT GOES UNDER THE HIGHWAY RIGHT HERE.
UH, THE EXISTING TRAIL DOES, THE EXISTING TRAIL GOES UNDER THE YES, I KNOW.
AND SO THEN IT'S ADDING NEW BRIDGE ACROSS THE CREEK TO HELP CONNECT INTO KIND OF THE CITY LINE AREA.
SO YEAH, YOU'LL KIND OF FALL AT THE BANK AND THEN THAT THEY'RE BUILDING THIS PIECE OUT THAT IS EAST OR WEST SIDE.
MY PARENTS, I HEADING OVER TO THE AREA, UH, IN THE PHOTO YOU CAN SEE THERE'S SOME WORKOUT, BUT THIS BEEN COMPLETED, UH, AND THIS STRETCHES ALL THE WAY TO BRENNER AND THEN GOES NOW WHERE IS THE BIKE TRAIL ON THAT? UH, IT IS, IT'LL BE RIGHT HERE.
THIS THE TRAIL A A NEW TRAIL, THE NEW TRAIL.
SO YOU'VE PROBABLY BEEN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF SYNERGY, LIKE KIND OF THE RIGHT SIDE.
THAT WOULD BE, IT'D BE CALLED UNIVERSITY TRAIL IF YOU'RE EVER ON THAT.
BUT IF YOU'RE ON LIKE RENT TRAIL, UH, AND YOU CAME OVER TOWARDS SYNERGY, UM, YOU'RE KIND OF ON THAT TRAIL BY POINT NORTH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S PROBABLY THAT CREEK BRIDGE WHERE YOU GET KIND OF STUCK BETWEEN, UH, TWO WALLS, UM, AS YOU CROSS THE CREEK AND THEN YOU KIND OF COME OUT HERE THIS INTERSECTION, AND THEN IT GOES DOWN TO FLOYD, UTD, UM, UT CAMPUS.
SO NOW, UH, YOU'RE KINDA ON THE OTHER SIDE CLOSER TO THE WATER TOWER, THERE'S GONNA BE ANOTHER TRAIL.
YEAH, SO THAT, SO THAT'S WHERE THEY WERE DOING THE WORK.
THEY WOULD KEEP GOING DOWN AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE TRAIL THAT UP AND THEN THEY'LL ALSO HAVE SOME WORK TO DO TO GET ONTO THE, UH, THE RAIL BRIDGE, BUT THEN THEY'LL CONNECT UP HERE RIGHT AT AND HEADING FLORIDA, GPE STATION, UH, I GOING PAST UTD STATION, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE TRAILS CONNECTED ALL THE WAY TO WATERVIEW AND THERE'S JUST A GAP ALONG WATER VIEW FOR THE CROSSING.
UH, AND THEN PAST THAT, UH, OUTSIDE CITY LIMITS, THE TRAIL BEEN BILL ALL THE WAY INTO I'M SURE.
CAN I ASK ONE OF THE STAFF MEMBERS TO POINT OUT THE UTD STATION, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION IS RIGHT UP HERE.
AND THAT'S EAST, THAT'S GOING EASTBOUND, RIGHT? YES.
UH, BASICALLY EAST AND YES, THAT'S EAST AND THEN HEADING TOWARDS WATERVIEW AND THEN THAT'S EAST.
I BELIEVE THERE'S AN RF, SO THAT WOULD BE A FULL SIGNAL.
SO IT'D BE A FULL SIGNAL FOR THE FEDEX FOR THE TRAIL CROSSING AT THAT LOCATION.
UM, THEN IS IT CROSSOVER AND GO TO THE OTHER SIDE THEN? YEAH, AND SO IT'S ONE AGAIN.
SO IT COME TO THE RIGHT IS SOUTH TO THE LEFT IS NORTH, SO IN RICHARDSON LAR TRAILS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE RAIL OF THE SILVER LINE RAIL, UM, HERE AT WATERVIEW, IT SWITCHES TO THE NORTH SIDE.
AND THEN KIND OF GOING DOWN ON THE PAGE THAT CITY OF DALLAS, UH, REQUIRE USE THE BORDER FOR OUR CITIES.
UH, SO YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE NEW TRAIL COMING UP IN THE CITY OF DALLAS, AND THEY'RE STARTING TO WORK NOW ON THIS SIGNAL, WHICH WILL REALLY TIE TOGETHER.
THE CONTRACTOR IS WORKING TO TRY TO GET KIND THIS PIECE AROUND E UH, KINDA UP TO THE STATION AND THEN THE CITY LINE AREA BY THE END OF THIS YEAR.
THEY'RE WANTING TO BE KIND OF FULLY DONE WITH THOSE.
UM, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE TARGETING AT THIS POINT, CO SOME OTHER PIECES TO FEEL FACTOR AND THAT LEADS ON TO A, A NEWER PROJECT, UH, YARD WILL BE DOING LIGHT RAIL MODIFICATION IN THE, IN THE FUTURE WE'LL RECEIPT THE GRANT FROM U-S-P-O-P TO REMOVE CENTER CROSSWALKS AS WELL AS LEVEL EIGHT STATIONS ALONG THE RED AND BLUE LINES.
UH, SO WHAT THIS WILL LOOK LIKE IS IT'LL LEVEL FOR ALL REPORTING OR A DA, UH, THERE'LL BE NEW SLOPE WALK ACCESS, UH, AT EVERY STATION, UH, IS PART OF THIS PROJECT BARRIERS AND NEW WAY FINDING AND SECURITY SYSTEMS. UH, SO THIS WILL IMPACT CITY LINE PUSH STATION IN RICHARDSON AND GALLATIN, ARAPAHOE AND THEN SPRING
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VALLEY AS WELL.UH, THE ESTIMATED TIMELINE FOR THIS BEGINNING SOMETIME IN 2027, AND THEY'LL BE DOING IT THROUGH BASING AND, AND, UH, THROUGH 2030 MAD CHAIR.
COULD I ADD A A LITTLE BIT TO THIS DISCUSSION? UM, WITH RESPECT TO THAT, UM, IN THE CONVERSATIONS THAT, THAT MICHAEL AND I HAVE HAD WITH THE DELIVERY TEAM ON THIS AT DART, UH, THERE WILL, UM, TWO STATIONS WOULD NOT BE DONE AT THE SAME TIME.
IN OTHER WORDS, YOU WOULDN'T SEE GALLATIN AND ARAPAHOE BEING DONE AT THE SAME TIME.
IT MIGHT BE ARAPAHOE AND CITY LINE OR GALLATIN AND SPRING VALLEY, BUT THERE WOULD NOT BE BACK TO BACK STATIONS BEING COMPLETED.
AND AT NO POINT IN TIME WOULD A STATION BE, UH, OR WE UNDERSTAND THAT NO STATION WOULD, WOULD BE OUT OF, UM, NOT NOT AVAILABLE.
IN OTHER WORDS, THEY'D WORK ON SAY THE NORTHERN OR IN, IN OUR CASE HERE IN RICHARDSON, BECAUSE REDLINE GOES GENERALLY NORTH SOUTH.
THEY MIGHT WORK ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PLATFORM, COMPLETE THAT WHILE MAINTAINING ACCESS ON THE NORTH SIDE FOR, UM, RIDERSHIP, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
YES, WE NEED OTHER
SO LAST ON THE AGENDA, IS ITEM INTEREST MAD? I'M SURE I HAVE TWO YES ITEMS. UM, ONE, UM, WITHIN THE VEIN OF, OF THIS PARTICULAR GROUP, I COMPLETED THE MODERN HELL HUNDRED A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.
SO IT, IT, UH, IT LIVED UP TO ITS NAME THE LAST 20 MILES FOR SURE.
SO, UM, AND THEN THE OTHER ITEM OF INTEREST, UM, THIS HAPPENED AFTER, UH, AFTER THE AGENDA WAS POSTED, BUT, UM, FORMER, UH, COMMITTEE CHAIR BILL CHANCE HAD SUBMITTED HIS RESIGNATION, UH, TO THE COMMITTEE, UH, ON FRIDAY OF LAST WEEK.
AND SO THIS HAD ALREADY, AGENDA HAD ALREADY BEEN POSTED, AND SO WE DID NOT HAVE THAT ON THERE.
UH, I CAN TALK INDIVIDUALLY WITH YOU AT A, AT A LATER TIME, BUT NOT IN THIS FORMAL SETTING BECAUSE IT'S NOT POSTED.
SO, BUT I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A HEADS UP ON THAT.
UM, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE, UH, MS. HARD WILSON CHEERING US TODAY, BUT UNDERSTOOD
I COULD NOT HAVE DONE THE WHOLE, I COULD NOT HAVE DONE THE WHOLE THING.
THAT WAS LIKE THREE, FOUR IN THE AFTERNOON.
IT WAS STILL RIDING AND I FEEL, WAIT, I MELTED ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD.
WELL THEN THAT, WELL, I JUST, I NOTICED ON, ON PRINTER XO, UM, NOW WHEN THE PEDESTRIAN SIGNAL IS, YOU KNOW, REQUESTED THE LEFT TURNS ARE DISABLED AND SO I THINK THAT'LL BE HELPFUL FOR SAFER STREETS AND VISION ZERO.
THOSE ARE, WE HAVE THE ABILITY AT OUR INTERSECTIONS, I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN PREVIOUS MEETING, THAT, UM, KIND OF WITH, WE HAVE A LOT OF FLASHING YELLOW ARROW FOR YOUR LEFT TURNS, UM, THAT IF THERE IS A PEDESTRIAN CALL, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU PUSH THE BUTTON, WE'RE ABLE TO RESTRICT THE FLASHING YELLOW AGAIN, HOW DO WE REMOVE COMPLEX IMPROVE SAFETY OVERALL? UM, IT'S KINDA A CASE BY CASE BASIS.
UM, THERE ARE CERTAIN ATIONS, OTHER LIMITATIONS WHERE NEW MAY NOT WORK.
UM, SO YOU DON'T CL ANYWHERE THERE ARE INTERSECTION.
I THINK AT MOST OF THOSE INTERSECTIONS AROUND STREET, SOMETIMES YOU FIGHT
UM, SIMILAR AROUND SCHOOL WE WILL DO IT.
UM, SO IF YOU LIKE DAY, MORNING AND LEAST AROUND SCHOOL, THAT'S INSTRUCTIONS.
UM, BUT YEAH, YOU COME ACROSS CERTAIN SESSIONS, YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE CONTACT US AND, AND WE CAN LOOK AT, AT A CASE BY CASE BASIS ON.
GLAD THAT'S WHAT DO, IS THERE ANY FOLLOW UP ON THE, THE GROUP RIDES DOWN RENTER? UH, A LOT OF CHATTER.
UH, WE'RE JUST STILL IN THE PROCESS OF LIKE GETTING SOMETHING READY FOR THE COMMITTEE.
SO I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT THAT TOO, BECAUSE I'VE HEARD CHATTER THAT, THAT THE COUNCILS WANTS TO RESTRICT RIDING DOWN WINTER ROAD DURING RUSH HOUR.
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I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S RUMOR OR WHAT ISN'T MM-HMMYEAH, WE DON'T HAVE ANY DIRECTION ON, YOU KNOW, RESTRICTING.
UM, BUT YEAH, AS AN AGENCY WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO RESTRICT, UM, BY SOME CERTAIN CORRIDORS.
BUT YEAH, AT THIS POINT WE DON'T HAVE ANY DIRECTION THAT WOULD SAY WE ARE TRYING TO RESTRICT.
UM, I THINK AT THIS POINT IT'S A LOT MORE ENCOURAGEMENT OF HOW DO WE WORK WITH THE GROUPS OR LIKE, WHITE MARK DOESN'T RIDE C RIDES KIND OF IN THAT TIME PERIOD.
UM, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE, SOME OF 'EM ARE MORE INDEPENDENT, UH, KINDA RIDES.
AND SO HOW DO WE AT THIS POINT, HOW DO WE ENCOURAGE THEM, UM, TO DEFINE TIMES THAT KIND OF COHESIVE WITH EVERYONE, SO, OKAY.
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