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[CALL TO ORDER]

[00:00:07]

RICHARDSON CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER AT 6 P.M. AT THIS TIME, I'LL ASK MAYOR PRO TEM KEN HUTCHENRIDER TO LEAD US IN THE INVOCATION AND THE PLEDGES. IF YOU PLEASE, JOIN ME IN PRAYER.

HEAVENLY FATHER, THANK YOU FOR THIS BEAUTIFUL DAY IN OUR FAIR CITY. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME TOGETHER AS A CITY COUNCIL, TO ONCE AGAIN TACKLE THE TOUGH ISSUES THAT WE FACE AND COME TOGETHER AND MOVE OUR CITY FORWARD IN A MORE POSITIVE WAY. WE ASK FOR ALL OF THESE THINGS IN YOUR NAME. AMEN. AMEN. YOU JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. AND THE TEXAS FLAG. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE. TEXAS. ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM. AT THIS TIME, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM THREE, WHICH ARE PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS AND VISITORS FORUM, MR. MAGNER.

THANK YOU MAYOR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL. WE ARE NOT IN RECEIPT OF ANY CARDS IN ADVANCE OF THE £0.05 4 P.M. DEADLINE. EXCUSE ME. AND WE CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE ANYONE INDICATING WISHING TO SPEAK. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE LOOKING TO SPEAK? ALL RIGHT, SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE

[4. CONSENT AGENDA]

ON TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, WHICH IS A CONSENT AGENDA. MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHENRIDER. MAYOR, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PUBLISHED. COUNCIL MEMBER DAWSON, I SECOND THAT. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHENRIDER, A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER DOREEN. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ALL RIGHT. ALL

[5. REVIEW AND DISCUSS SAFER STREETS RICHARDSON]

RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE. WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE. REVIEW AND DISCUSS SAFER STREETS.

RICHARDSON. MR. MAGNER, THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. EXCITED TO HAVE WITH US TONIGHT OUR DIRECTOR OF TRANSPORTATION, MARK NELSON, OUR NEW ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, DANIEL HERRING. I ALSO WANT TO INTRODUCE SANJITA HASSAN, WHO IS OUR TRANSPORTATION ENGINEER. AND ON HIS FIRST DAY WITH THE CITY OF RICHARDSON, WE'RE VERY EXCITED ALSO TO WELCOME MR. BRANT HUNTSMAN, WHO IS OUR NEW MOBILITY AND SPECIAL PROJECTS MANAGER, ACTUALLY TAKING THE POSITION THAT DANIEL RECENTLY VACATED AS HE PROMOTED UP. DANIEL IS GOING TO LEAD OUR PRESENTATION TONIGHT, BUT WE WANT TO THANK SANJITA AND MARK FOR THEIR HARD WORK ON THE SAFER STREET RICHARDSON PLAN AS WELL. DANIEL IS GOING TO PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF THE PROCESS THAT WE UNDERTOOK TO DEVELOP THE PLAN, INCLUDING THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT EFFORTS, SOME OF THE PLANNING ANALYSIS THAT TOOK PLACE, AND THEN ULTIMATELY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PLAN. WE'RE LOOKING TO TAKE YOUR FEEDBACK TONIGHT IF WE NEED TO INCORPORATE IT AND RETURN WITH A STATUS BRIEFING BEFORE ADOPTION. WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT. BUT IF NOT AND THE PLAN IS SATISFACTORY, WE'D LOOK TO PUT THIS ON AN UPCOMING CONSENT AGENDA FOR ACTION. SO DANIEL, SPECIAL THANKS TO YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR COORDINATION ON THIS THIS IMPORTANT PROJECT, AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU FOR THE BRIEFING. THANK YOU DON. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, FOR HAVING US TONIGHT. WE TALKED TO YOU BACK IN FEBRUARY ON THIS PLAN. IT'S KIND OF AN UPDATE TO IT. AND NOW WE'RE COMING BACK AGAIN. THIS IS BASED ON THE COUNCIL GOAL OF HAVING RESIDENTS AND STAKEHOLDERS CHOOSE RICHARDSON AS THE BEST PLACE TO LOCATE, CONTRIBUTE AND ENGAGE, AND REALLY BUILDING OFF SOME OF THOSE MASTER PLANS AS A TACTIC. AND WE'LL GET INTO THAT HERE IN A MINUTE. WE'LL GO INTO SOME OF THE BACKGROUND, YOU KNOW, REFRESH A FEW THINGS OF WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN FEBRUARY, AS WELL AS KIND OF GO THROUGH THE FULL PLANNING PROCESS OF UNDERSTANDING RECOMMENDATIONS, IMPLEMENTATIONS, AND THEN TALK ABOUT NEXT STEPS. SO REALLY THE BACKGROUND, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE SAFETY ACTION PLAN? IT'S REALLY HIGHLIGHTING ON THE COLLABORATIVE AND DATA DRIVEN ASPECT OF IT. SO THE APPROACH, REALLY LOOKING AT THE DATA AND THEN HOW DO WE ENGAGE THE PUBLIC IN THIS TO REDUCE FATALITIES AND SERIOUS INJURIES. AND SO THOSE ARE THE TWO AND WE'LL GET INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE. A BIG PIECE OF THIS IS THIS IS FUNDED THROUGH THE US DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION'S SAFE STREETS AND ROADS FOR ALL GRANT, WHERE WE ARE COMING UP ON THE DEADLINE OF DECEMBER 3RD ON THAT. AND A LOT OF THIS IS BASED OFF OF HOW DO WE USE OUR STRATEGIC OUR RESOURCES STRATEGICALLY AS WE FOCUS EFFORTS TOWARDS SAFETY. AND A LOT OF THAT BUILDS OFF OF OTHER MASTER PLANS LIKE ENVISION RICHARDSON AND THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN TO CREATE THAT APPROACH OF HOW DO WE STRATEGICALLY USE OUR RESOURCES, AND THEN HOW DO WE MAKE IT TRANSPARENT TO THE PUBLIC AND WORK WITH THE PUBLIC SO THAT THEY KNOW WHY THOSE DECISIONS ARE MADE, HOW THEY'RE GETTING MADE TO TO GET OVERALL COMMUNITY SUPPORT? AS WE MOVE THOSE FORWARD. A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ONE MASTER PLAN, BUT YOU'VE SEEN OTHER MASTER PLANS WITH THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN AND VISION. RICHARDSON. SO REALLY, HOW DO THOSE WORK TOGETHER? A BIG PIECE IS, YOU KNOW, THEY GET LAYERED TOGETHER. SO AS WE LOOK AT PROJECTS, THIS PLAN IS NOT BRINGING, YOU KNOW, MORE PROJECTS ONTO THE LONGER LIST OF PROJECTS, BUT IT'S HOW

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DO WE CREATE A COORDINATED, COORDINATED EFFORT ACROSS THOSE PROJECTS OR ACROSS THOSE PLANS TO CREATE PROJECTS? AND SO, YEAH, THESE ARE DIFFERENT PLANS ADDRESS DIFFERENT NEEDS. AND SO THEY ARE WORKING TOGETHER AND THEY COMPLEMENT EACH OTHER. AND SO THEY DO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL AREAS OF OVERLAP THAT YOU SEE BETWEEN LIKE THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN, TALKING ABOUT BICYCLES AND PEDESTRIANS, AS WELL AS SOMETHING, A PLAN LIKE THIS, LOOKING AT SAFETY OF ALL MODES. SO THAT ALSO DOES INCLUDE BICYCLES AND PEDESTRIANS IN THAT AS WELL GOING INTO THE PROJECT ITSELF. SO THE SAFER STREETS, RICHARDSON BROKEN UP INTO THREE PROJECT PHASES. SO BACK IN FEBRUARY WE TALKED ABOUT KIND OF THE PROJECT UNDERSTANDING.

SO ENGAGEMENT, COLLABORATION, THE VISION STATEMENT, AND THEN THAT DATA DRIVEN SAFETY ANALYSIS AS THE BACKBONE OF IT. AND THEN MOVING INTO RECOMMENDATIONS. NOW WE GOT OUR GUIDING PRINCIPLES, PROJECT DEVELOPMENT ACTION PLAN COUNTERMEASURES. AND THEN KIND OF ALL OF THAT PULLS TOGETHER INTO A DRAFT PLAN, WHICH YOU'VE HAD FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS NOW, AND LOOKING IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS FOR ADOPTION, THEN, AND THEN AS WE GET THAT PLAN ADOPTED, WE'LL MOVE INTO IMPLEMENTATION. SO HOW DO WE TRACK THAT OVER TIME SO WE CAN SHARE WITH THE PUBLIC HOW WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS ON IT? HOW ARE WE ADVANCING THE PLAN, LOOKING AT DEMONSTRATION PROJECTS AND THEN HOW WE PURSUE ADDITIONAL FUNDING IN THIS AS WELL. IN THE ENGAGEMENT, COLLABORATION REALLY SPLIT INTO TWO MAJOR PHASES. PHASE ONE WAS LAST FALL, SO FALL OF 2025. THAT WAS IN THAT UNDERSTANDING PHASE. SO GETTING A LOT OF KIND OF FEEDBACK FROM THE PUBLIC ON WHAT ARE THE ISSUES THEY'RE SEEING, WHERE DO THEY SEE ISSUES, WHAT ARE, YOU KNOW, WHERE DO THEY SEE SAFETY NEEDS? AND SO HOW DO WE DEVELOP OUR KIND OF USE THOSE TO BUILD INTOO WAS KIND OF THIS SPRING INTO THE SUMMER WHERE WE HAD ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH THE PUBLIC OF TALKING ABOUT GETTING CONFIRMATION OF OUR IDEAS. THE VISION STATEMENT IS THE DIRECTION OF THE PLAN IN LINE WITH THEIR THEIR FEEDBACK. DID WE HEAR EVERYTHING? WAS THERE ANYTHING ADDITIONAL THEY WANTED TO SHARE JUST TO MAKE SURE AND CONFIRM THE DIRECTION AS WE MOVE FORWARD? AND THEN THROUGHOUT THE PLAN, WE'VE ALSO HAD STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT. SO WE'VE HAD INTERNAL STAKEHOLDER GROUP WHO'S LOOKING AT THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE CITY OF HOW DO WE WORK TOGETHER, WHERE THIS IS NOT JUST A TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY PLAN, BUT THIS IS A CITYWIDE PLAN FOR TRANSPORTATION SAFETY AND THEN AN EXTERNAL STAKEHOLDER GROUP WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER CITY PARTNERS LIKE THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AT DALLAS. OUR SCHOOL DISTRICTS, TEXDOT AND MEDICAL FACILITIES AS WELL. SO HOW DO WE WORK WITH THESE PARTNERS AS WELL TO, TO ADVANCE SAFETY? AND THEN THROUGH THIS, THE BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN ADVISORY COMMITTEE HAS ALSO BEEN GETTING UPDATES AND PROVIDING FEEDBACK THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS. ALSO THROUGH THAT PROCESS, THE VISION STATEMENT WAS DEVELOPED THAT RICHARDSON ENVISIONS A SAFE, ACCESSIBLE AND COMFORTABLE TRANSPORTATION NETWORK TO MEET THE MOBILITY NEEDS OF THE CITY'S DIVERSE RESIDENTS AND STAKEHOLDERS. WE ARE COMMITTED TO A GOAL OF ZERO DEATHS AND SERIOUS INJURIES ON OUR ROADWAYS. RICHARDSON AND HIS PARTNERS STRIVE TO REACH THIS GOAL THROUGH PRINCIPLES OF URBAN PLANNING, ENGINEERING AND THE SAFE SYSTEMS APPROACH, REDUCING ROADWAY DEATHS AND SERIOUS INJURIES BY 50% BY 2050. AND SO KIND OF TWO, TWO PIECES OF THAT. SO ONE KIND OF AN ULTIMATE GOAL OF ULTIMATELY THE VISION IS TO REDUCE ROAD FATALITIES AND SERIOUS INJURIES.

AND THAT'S FOLLOWING BOTH FEDERAL AND STATE AND REGIONAL THROUGH THE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS INITIATIVES AND STATEMENTS WITH A VISION FOR ELIMINATING THOSE. AND THEN KIND OF WHAT IS OUR NEAR-TERM GOAL OF REDUCING IT? KIND OF THAT LAST SENTENCE THERE BY 50% BY 2050. AND SO HOW DO WE GET THERE? HOW DO WE MOVE THAT GOAL FORWARD AND MOVE THAT VISION FORWARD? IS OUR GUIDING PRINCIPLES SO SPLIT INTO FOUR PRINCIPLES. WE HAVE FOSTER A CULTURE OF SAFETY AMONG CITY LEADERSHIP AND STAFF, INSTITUTIONALIZED SAFETY AND DECISION MAKING, BUILDING SAFER STREETS FOR ALL, AND THEN COLLABORATING WITH OUR PARTNERS TO PROMOTE SAFETY ON OUR STREETS. AND THEN WE'LL GET INTO, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE TIE SOME ACTIONS AND STRATEGIES UNDER THESE GUIDING PRINCIPLES A LITTLE BIT LATER HERE IN THE DATA DRIVEN PIECE. SO THE SAFETY ANALYSIS, WE LOOKED AT CRASHES THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY. SO 2020 THROUGH 2024 WAS OUR PERIOD SINCE WE STARTED IN 25, IN 2025. THE FULL KIND OF FIVE YEARS OF DATA WAS 2020 THROUGH 2024. SO YOU CAN SEE THE HEAT MAP OF WHERE THOSE ARE.

AND REALLY THE FOCUS OF THIS IS TOWARDS THOSE FATAL AND SERIOUS INJURIES. YOU KNOW, AS WE LOOK AT QUALITY OF LIFE, THOSE ARE THE CRASHES THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE THE MOST IMPACT WHERE, YOU KNOW, A FENDER BENDER IS, YOU KNOW, NO ONE ENJOYS A FENDER BENDER, BUT THERE'S A DIFFERENT ASPECT AND KIND OF IMPACT ON YOUR LIFE COMPARED TO WHEN A FATALITY HAPPENS OR A SERIOUS INJURY, AND JUST HOW THAT IMPACTS THE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THAT CRASH, AS WELL AS THEIR FAMILY AND LOVED ONES IN THAT. AND SO USING THOSE CRASHES, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THIS OF WHERE ARE THOSE LOOKING AT THAT HEAT MAP, WHERE DO WE HAVE CRASHES? AND THEN WHO ARE IN THOSE CRASHES? SO WHO'S INVOLVED IN THOSE WHERE YOU CAN SEE MOST OF OUR CRASHES KIND OF FOR ALL CRASHES ARE MAINLY MOTOR VEHICLES. SO IT'S KIND OF MOTOR VEHICLES AND MAYBE ONLY ONE MOTOR VEHICLE VERSUS MAYBE MULTIPLE. BUT 96% OF CRASHES INVOLVE ONLY MOTOR MOTOR VEHICLES VERSUS YOU LOOK AT SO K A BEING FATAL OR SERIOUS INJURY CRASHES, YOU SEE KIND OF A DISPROPORTIONATE IMPACT TOWARDS THOSE MORE VULNERABLE ROAD USERS LIKE BICYCLISTS,

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PEDESTRIANS AND MOTORCYCLES. AND SO AND SO HOW DO WE LOOK AT SAFETY FOR THOSE USERS ON OUR, OUR MULTIMODAL NETWORK, USING ALL THAT, WE CREATE THREE HIGH INJURY NETWORKS. SO THE FIRST BEING THE ALL MODES HIGH INJURY NETWORK, WHICH FOUND THAT 60, 63% OF ALL FATAL AND SERIOUS INJURY CRASHES HAPPENED ON ONLY 6% OF OUR STREETS. AND THEN LOOKING SPECIFICALLY AT OUR BICYCLES AND PEDESTRIANS, WHERE MOST OF THOSE WERE CONCENTRATED, WHERE 62% OF THOSE HAPPEN ON JUST 3%. SO CREATING KIND OF A SUBSET WITHIN THAT. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, ONE OF OUR, OUR HIGH ONES THAT WE HEAR A LOT AND RECEIVE BOTH THROUGH PUBLIC FEEDBACK AND THROUGH THE ANALYSIS WAS A LOT HAPPENS AT OUR INTERSECTIONS. AND SO 34% OF ALL OF OUR FATAL AND SERIOUS INJURY CRASHES AT INTERSECTIONS HAPPENED AT 24 INTERSECTIONS, WHICH AS YOU THINK ABOUT IT, WE'VE GOT ABOUT 136 SIGNALIZED INTERSECTIONS. NOT ALL OF THESE ARE ACTUALLY SIGNALIZED INTERSECTIONS RIGHT NOW. BUT OVERALL, YOU KNOW, 24 ACCOUNT FOR A LARGE PORTION OF WHERE THOSE CRASHES OCCUR. SO HOW DO WE KIND OF FOCUS THAT IN THE FUTURE WITHIN THOSE SAFETIES? ALSO LOOKING AT OUR RISK FACTORS AND CRASH PROFILES. SO LOOKING AT NOT JUST CRASHES AND WHERE THEY HAPPEN, BUT WHAT, WHAT WERE CERTAIN FACTORS INVOLVED? AND SO LOOKING AT KIND OF THOSE CONTEXTUAL FACTORS. SO WHAT'S THE SPEED LIMIT? YOU KNOW, HOW MANY LANES OF TRAFFIC ARE THERE? WHAT DOES THAT FUNCTIONAL CLASSIFICATION OF THE ROAD? HOW MUCH VOLUME, YOU KNOW, IS IT SIGNALIZED UNSIGNALIZED. ARE THERE SIDEWALKS? ARE THERE BICYCLE FACILITIES AVAILABLE? AND THEN WHAT KIND OF LEVEL OF PEDESTRIAN OR BICYCLE ACTIVITIES IS HAPPENING THERE? AND SO IDENTIFYING THOSE, THOSE FIVE CRASH PROFILES, WHICH ARE PRESENT IN MOST OR NOT MOST, BUT, YOU KNOW, 6 TO 9%. SO A LOT IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S REOCCURRING A LOT THROUGH THOSE CRASHES THAT WE WERE SEEING. USING ALL THAT DATA AND THE PUBLIC INPUT THAT WE GOT, WE'RE MOVING INTO RECOMMENDATIONS THEN OF HOW DO WE DEVELOP RECOMMENDATIONS WHERE THIS PLAN, AGAIN, WE'RE BUILDING ON THE EXISTING CITY INVESTMENTS AND OTHER MASTER PLANS AND PROGRAMS. AND THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS KIND OF GROUPED INTO FOUR CATEGORIES.

SO HOW DO WE PRIORITIZE THEM? HOW DO WE PLAN, DEVELOP CONCEPTS FOR IT? HOW DO WE IMPLEMENT? SO WHAT ARE THOSE COUNTERMEASURES WE NEED TO USE AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN DIFFERENT PROJECTS. AND THEN HOW DO WE INSTITUTIONALIZE IT WHERE THIS IS NOT JUST KIND OF ONE OFF SAFETY PROJECTS, BUT HOW DO WE DO IT ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS IN THE COMMUNITY HERE? SO WITHIN OUR EXISTING SAFETY INVESTMENTS, HALF OF THE PRIORITIZED INTERSECTIONS RECENTLY BUILT HAVE BEEN RECENTLY REBUILT OR ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION. SO THE CITY, THROUGH THE HIGHWAY SAFETY IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, CIP, WE'VE RECEIVED 19 INTERSECTIONS FUNDED SINCE 2020. AND SO A LOT OF THOSE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THIS DATA KIND OF OVERLAPS WITH THAT SAFETY PROGRAM. AND SO WE HAVE MOVED FORWARD IN A LOT OF SAFETY INITIATIVES AT THOSE HIGHER PRIORITY INTERSECTIONS.

AND THEN THE 2026 BOND PROGRAM FURTHER ADVANCES THAT ONE. IF YOU LOOK AT THE HIGH INJURY NETWORK ON KIND OF RENTER FURTHER EAST OUT OF PG, T IN THE PANHANDLE, ONE OF THE SEGMENTS THERE ON RENTER WAS A RENTER IN SHARP, WHICH WAS IDENTIFIED THROUGH THE 2026 BOND PROGRAM FOR A NEW SIGNAL WHERE WE HAD BEEN SEEING CRASHES IDENTIFIED AND THEN WITHIN THE BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN HIGH INJURY NETWORK. WE ALSO HAVE A LOT OF ONGOING PROJECTS ADDRESSING THIS. SOME OF THOSE HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED IN PREVIOUS PLANS WITH OUR REGIONAL PARTNERS. BUT WEST SPRING VALLEY, THE CROSSWALK ENHANCEMENTS YOU'VE SEEN ON WEST SPRING VALLEY, THE COLLINS OVERPASS, THE BIKE FACILITY IS ANOTHER ONE CROSSING OVER US 75 SYNERGY PARK BOULEVARD. SO THE UTD MOBILITY IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH IS A LOT OF THE ACTIVITY AROUND UTD AND THE EXPANSION OF THE CAMPUS, AS WELL AS THE SILVER LINE COMING ONLINE NOW, SEEING A LOT OF ACTIVITY OUT THERE, AND HOW DO WE BUILD THAT TO BE SAFE FOR ALL USERS? AND THEN THE RENTER PED SIGNAL PROJECT, AGAIN TIED TO A LOT OF THE UTD ACTIVITY IN THAT DIRECTION. AND THEN WORKING WITH PARTNERS FOR SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL PROGRAM FOR THAT KIND OF SPECIFIC. AND SAME WITH THE 2026 BOND WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT A LOT OF SCHOOL ZONE SAFETY.

I KNOW WHEN WE'VE WORKED WITH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T SEE A LOT OF SIGNIFICANT SAFETY CRASHES AND AND MAJOR INCIDENTS IN OUR SCHOOL ZONES, BUT IT'S ONE OF THOSE WANTING TO BE PROACTIVE AND KEEP THOSE AT THE FOREFRONT THAT WE MAINTAIN THAT THAT SAFETY GOING FORWARD ALSO. SO PRIORITIZING THE HIGH INJURY NETWORK. SO YEAH, WE CREATED THE HIGH INJURY NETWORK, BUT THEN HOW DO WE PRIORITIZE PROJECTS? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, BEING 6% OF OUR ROADS IS DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A LOT, BUT IT'S STILL QUITE A FEW MILES.

SO HOW DO WE PRIORITIZE WITHIN THAT? SO TOP TEN SEGMENTS WERE IDENTIFIED AND TOP TEN INTERSECTIONS BASED OFF SAFETY OR SAFETY KIND OF REMAINED THE THE MAIN DRIVER OF HOW DO WE PRIORITIZE THOSE? BUT ALSO LOOKING AT WHAT IS THE PROXIMITY TO PUBLIC DESTINATIONS LIKE PARKS AND SCHOOLS, COMMUNITY VULNERABILITY, OTHER PLANNED PROJECTS? AGAIN, HOW DO WE OVERLAP WITH OTHER MASTER PLANS AND THEN COMMUNITY INPUT? SO

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ANYTHING THAT MAY HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED BY THE PUBLIC THROUGH THOSE COMMUNITY INPUT PROCESS. AND THEN WITHIN THESE TOP TEN, WE WERE ABLE TO IDENTIFY FIVE CONCEPT PLANS.

WHICH ONE OF THOSE EXAMPLES WILL BE COYOTE ROAD, KIND OF THE SOUTHERN END. SO FROM WEST SPRING VALLEY NORTH TO STAGECOACH DRIVE, THIS IS. SO THERE'S FIVE PLANS WITHIN THE THE DRAFT REPORT THAT YOU HAVE. AND SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE MORE DETAILS ON THAT. BUT THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF ONE OF THEM WHERE IT REALLY LOOKS AT THESE CORRIDORS AND INTERSECTIONS, IDENTIFIES WHAT KIND OF CRASH TYPES DO WE HAVE, AND LOOKS IN A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL TO IDENTIFY WHAT ARE SOME COUNTERMEASURES OR WHAT MAY BE SOME FUTURE STUDIES THAT MAY BENEFIT THAT CORRIDOR TO IDENTIFY A PROJECT FOR FUNDING IN THE FUTURE? AND LOOKING INTO THE COUNTERMEASURES, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE CREATE THAT PLAN? THERE'S A COUNTERMEASURE TOOLBOX AND ONE OF THE APPENDICES OF THE DRAFT REPORT. AND THESE ARE REALLY DEVELOPED ON A, YOU KNOW, CONTEXTUAL BASIS. SO IT'S BASED OFF, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE SAFETY PROBLEM? WHAT IS THE ROADWAY CONTEXT AND WHAT ARE THE AVAILABLE RESOURCES? EVERY MEASURE DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FOR EVERY LOCATION, ESPECIALLY WITH SOME OF OUR SAFETY BEING ON OUR HIGHER SPEED, HIGHER VOLUME ROADWAYS. YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GOING TO PUT A SPEED BUMP ON CAMPBELL ROAD, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE EVERYWHERE. ALSO, WHAT ARE OUR RESOURCES? NOT EVERYTHING HAS TO COST 1 MILLION, 5 MILLION, $10 MILLION TO IMPLEMENT. THERE'S REALLY A RANGE IN HERE OF HOW DO WE IMPLEMENT PROJECTS. SO SOME THINGS WE CAN BE IMPLEMENTING WITH EXISTING RESOURCES THAT AREN'T TAKING MORE RESOURCES. SO SOME IS JUST HOW DO WE REMOVE OBSTRUCTIONS FROM SIG LINES? HOW DO WE LOOK OUR SIGNAL TIMING THAT THERE'S CERTAIN ADJUSTMENTS WE CAN MAKE WITH OUR STAFF RESOURCES WITHOUT COMMITTING ADDITIONAL OPERATIONAL FUNDING TO IT TO IMPROVE SAFETY? SOMETIMES IT MAY BE EXPANDING OUR RESOURCES AND TECHNOLOGY, SOME WHERE IT'S AGAIN, NOT 5 MILLION, $10 MILLION UPGRADE, BUT HOW DO WE LOOK AT, AGAIN, SOME SIGNAL TIMING THINGS, MAYBE A LITTLE MORE INTENSIVE, TAKING SOME ADDITIONAL RESOURCES, AND SOMETIMES IT'S MORE TECHNOLOGY DRIVEN OF GETTING ENHANCEMENTS THROUGH OUR SIGNAL DETECTION OR OTHER TECHNOLOGY EQUIPMENT AT OUR INTERSECTIONS MAY BENEFIT TO IMPROVE SAFETY AT THOSE. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THEM ARE GOING TO BE LARGER CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. THERE ARE GOING TO BE LARGER SCALE WHERE IT MAY BE ADDING A SIDEWALK, ADDING INTERSECTION LIGHTING, MAYBE SEGMENT LIGHTING ALONG A CORRIDOR, OR LOOKING AT SPECIAL CROSSING TREATMENTS TO IMPROVE SAFETY. AND A LOT OF THIS CAN BE IMPLEMENTED WITH OUR BOND PROGRAM. AND SO HOW DO WE HOW DO WE WORK INTO THOSE PROJECTS TO MAKE THIS KIND OF INSTITUTIONALIZED THAT WE'RE DOING WITH EVERY PROJECT AND, AND NOT HAVING TO LOOK AT ADDITIONAL NEW PROJECTS AND NEW FUNDING, BUT HOW DO WE BUILD IT AS KIND OF A DAY TO DAY, HOW WE DO BUSINESS HERE AT THE CITY? AND WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WE ARE LOOKING AT ADDITIONAL FUNDING, BUT A PLAN LIKE THIS ALSO SETS US UP FOR LOOKING TO OUR PARTNERS TO, TO HELP FUND AND LEVERAGE OUTSIDE FUNDING, WHETHER IT'S TEXDOT OR THE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS. AND SO ONE, ONE EXAMPLE OF THAT, WHERE THIS HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL FOR RICHARDSON IS THE UT MOBILITY IMPROVEMENTS OUT THERE. ON SYNERGY, WHERE WE DID LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE SAFETY NEEDS? WHAT ARE THE CRASH ISSUES WE'RE HAVING OUT THERE? HOW HAVE WE WORKED WITH THE UNIVERSITY? WHAT HAVE WE HEARD FROM THEM ON THE ISSUES THEY'RE SEEING AND PUTTING SOME OF THOSE COUNTERMEASURES TOGETHER TO CREATE A PLAN, WHICH IS KIND OF THE MAP YOU CAN SEE THERE ON THE RIGHT TO PURSUE GRANT FUNDING, WHERE ULTIMATELY THE CITY WAS AWARDED OVER $8.1 MILLION FOR THIS PROJECT, AND IT'S ONE THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO LEVERAGE THAT THE CITY'S COMMITTING ABOUT $1.4 MILLION TOWARDS IT, TOWARDS THE FEDERAL MATCH OF AN $8.1 MILLION. SO BEING ABLE TO USE OUR OUR, OUR PARTNERS IN THAT TO, TO LEVERAGE OUR FUNDS AND MOVE PROJECTS FORWARD FOR SAFETY, BOTH FOR THE CITY AS WELL AS, IN THIS CASE, THE UNIVERSITY. SO OUTSIDE KIND OF INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS, THE OTHER PIECE OF IT IS GOING TO BE YOUR MORE PROGRAMMATIC, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE INSTITUTIONALIZE THINGS? SO THE ACTION PLAN IDENTIFIES THE TOP TEN STRATEGIES WHICH TRANSLATE THOSE GUIDING PRINCIPLES INTO IMPLEMENTATION PRIORITIES. AND SO YOU CAN SEE UNDER THOSE FOUR GUIDING PRINCIPLES THERE'S SOME WITHIN EACH. AND SO THESE ARE THE TOP TEN. SO THE OBVIOUSLY THERE'S OTHER STRATEGIES WE CAN BE MOVING FORWARD AND ACTIONS WE CAN BE MOVING FORWARD. BUT AS WE REALLY KICK OFF, THIS PLAN IS KIND OF THE FIRST ITERATION OF SAFER STREETS. RICHARDSON. THESE ARE THE ONES TO FOCUS ON TO HELP BUILD THAT FOUNDATION FOR, FOR SAFETY IN THE COMMUNITY. AND THEN IN THE FUTURE, WE CAN LOOK AT HOW DO WE BUILD IN OTHER STRATEGIES AND OTHER ACTIONS IN THE FUTURE.

BUT GOING THROUGH THOSE TEN, WE HAVE THE INTER-DEPARTMENTAL SAFETY COORDINATION, STAFF EDUCATION AND TRAINING, LEADERSHIP AND STAKEHOLDER REPORTING, SAFETY FOCUSED FUNDING, PRIORITIZATION, SAFE SYSTEM, PROJECT INTEGRATION, CONTEXT SENSITIVE SPEED MANAGEMENT, AND THEN UNDER BUILDING SAFER STREETS FOR ALL THE NETWORK IMPROVEMENTS. AND THEN AS WE COLLABORATE WITH OUR PARTNERS, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE LOOKING BOTH, YOU KNOW,

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INTERNALLY FOR OUR ENHANCED POST-CRASH RESPONSE. AND THAT'S SOMETHING YOU'VE HEARD BEFORE AS KIND OF THE DRONE IS A FIRST RESPONDER AS WELL AS WE'LL GET INTO THE DEMONSTRATION PROJECT HERE IN A MINUTE AND TALK ABOUT HOW DO WE LOOK AT THAT POST-CRASH RESPONSE AS WELL.

AND THEN LOOKING AT THOSE REGIONAL SAFETY PARTNERSHIPS, WHICH A LOT OF THAT COMES INTO FUNDING, AS WELL AS COLLABORATIVE PROJECT DELIVERY OF HOW DO WE WORK TOGETHER WITH THOSE PARTNERS AS WE KIND OF START WRAPPING UP THE PLAN? THE OTHER PIECE GOING ON WITHIN THIS G IS OUR DEMONSTRATION PROJECT, AND THIS IS LOOKING AT THAT POST-CRASH RESPONSE. SO AN EMERGENCY SIGNAL PREEMPTION PILOT FUNDED THROUGH THE GRANT, IT'S A GPS BASED TRAFFIC SIGNAL PREEMPTION SYSTEM. SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A KIND OF LINE OF SIGHT IR BASED PREEMPTION SYSTEM. SO AS A VEHICLE, AS A FIRE TRUCKS APPROACHING OUR SIGNAL, IT'S A LINE OF SIGHT HOW IT PREEMPTS AND GETS A GREEN LIGHT TO GO THROUGH OUR SIGNAL VERSUS THIS WOULD BE A GPS BASED. AND SO WE'D BE ABLE TO TRACK HOW FAST THEY'RE COMING, HOW FAR AWAY THEY ARE, AND BE ABLE TO TURN IT GREEN WELL IN ADVANCE, AND OFTENTIMES MORE IN ADVANCE THAN KIND OF LINE OF SIGHT TO BE ABLE TO GET THEM THROUGH FASTER AND RESPOND TO THOSE EMERGENCIES FASTER. WE'VE GOT THE EQUIPMENT INSTALLED RIGHT NOW FOR THAT PILOT. WE'RE KIND OF FINALIZING THE SETUP TO BEGIN TESTING AND RUNNING SOME OF THAT KIND OF INITIAL TEST, WHERE LATER THIS MONTH, WE'LL BE DOING A FEW WEEKS OF FORMAL EVALUATION. WE'LL BE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, WHICH ONES KIND OF PREEMPTING THE SIGNAL FIRST. ARE WE GETTING PERFORMANCE BENEFITS OF IT. AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO FINISH THAT EVALUATION THERE IN NOVEMBER THEN. SO AS WE KIND OF WRAP UP HERE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ACCEPTING ANY CITY COUNCIL FEEDBACK AS WE START FINALIZING THE PLAN. WE'RE SCHEDULED FOR NOVEMBER 9TH TO CONSIDER ADOPTION FOR IT. AGAIN, AS WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT GRANT DEADLINE ON DECEMBER 3RD. AND THEN WE'LL BE COMPLETING THAT DEMONSTRATION PROJECT IN NOVEMBER. AND THEN KIND OF AS WE GET INTO THE IMPLEMENTATION PHASE, HOW DO WE THEN LOOK AT THAT POTENTIAL FUNDING, BOTH FOR GRANT FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES WITH THOSE PARTNERS, AS WELL AS HOW DO WE REALLY INCORPORATE IT INTO THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE 2026 BOND PROGRAM? COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS? MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHENRIDER. GOOD EVENING, GREAT PRESENTATION. AND AS I READ THROUGH EVERYTHING THAT WE WERE PROVIDED AHEAD OF TIME, JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THAT I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED ON. SO DO WE. HOW DO I ASK THIS? DO WE HAVE. IN IN ALL OF OUR DATA, I'M ASSUMING WE'RE COUNTING THE DEATHS AND SERIOUS INJURIES THAT OCCUR ON 75 AND ON PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH TURNPIKE. SO WITHIN OUR ANALYSIS, SO WE'RE COUNTING THE FRONTAGE ROADS, BUT WE ARE NOT COUNTING THE MAIN LANES OF 75 OR P, G, B, T. AND SO A LOT OF THE BACKGROUND IS DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES HAVE BEEN DOING IT DIFFERENT WAYS, BUT A LOT OF IT IS LOOKING AT AS AN ACTION PLAN FOR THE CITY. WE WANTED TO FOCUS ON CORRIDORS THAT WE HAD KIND OF MORE CONTROL OVER. THAT IS, YOU KNOW, THOSE MAIN LANES WOULD BE SOMETHING WE'D BE WORKING WITH OUR PARTNERS, TEXDOT AND NTTA, ON, BUT WE HAVE A LITTLE MORE CONTROL OVER OUR LOCAL NETWORK. AND SO THE FOCUS IS SO THOSE NUMBERS ARE EXCLUDING 75, THE MAIN LANES OF 75, AND THE MAIN LANES OF P, G, B, T. BECAUSE WHEN YOUR ONE MAP AND I'M SORRY I DIDN'T CATCH THE SLIDE FAST ENOUGH WHEN YOU DID IT, IT LOOKS LIKE THE DATA IS INCLUDED RIGHT THERE. THE HEAT MAP LOOKS LIKE THAT 75 AND GEORGE BUSH IS INCLUDED. SO THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT CONFUSED ME BECAUSE I THOUGHT AS I READ THROUGH THE DATA, IT WAS EXCLUDED. BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THIS HEAT MAP INCLUDES IT. SO I'M JUST A LITTLE CONFUSED AS TO WHAT IT JUST HAS. THE FRONTAGE ROADS. THAT'S JUST THE FRONTAGE ROADS. YEAH. SO THERE MAY BE A COUPLE ON THE FRONTAGE ROADS. OKAY. AND THAT'S WHY KIND OF THE THE SOUTH END OF SHILOH ROAD AT PGT. THAT'S WHY THAT ONE KIND OF POPS UP AS A HOT SPOT ON THIS IS WE ARE INCLUDING THOSE FRONTAGE ROADS.

AND THAT WAS IDENTIFIED ON THAT HIGH INJURY NETWORK FOR THE INTERSECTIONS. OKAY. AND THEN SECOND QUESTION IS, IS HOW DO WE DEFINE I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY FATAL IS FATAL, BUT SEVERE INJURY VERSUS MINOR INJURY. AT WHAT POINT DO WE MAKE THAT DEFINITION AND WHAT IS OUR DATA SOURCE FOR THAT FOR THAT DEFINITION. SO THE DEFINITION IS COMING OUT OF THE POLICE CRASH REPORTS. SO ANY OF THE POLICE CRASH. AND SO THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF SUBJECTIVITY TO IT. BUT IT IS BASED OFF THE CRASH RESPONDERS, THEIR TRAINING OF HOW DO THEY. HOW DO THEY NOTE THOSE SEVERITIES? BUT THEY'RE TRAINED AS KIND OF POLICE, FIRST RESPONDERS OF WHAT ARE THOSE RATINGS? BUT THROUGH THAT CRASH REPORT WITHIN TEXAS, ALL OF THOSE GO TO TEXDOT. AND AND SO THAT KIND OF DATABASE IS PUBLICLY AVAILABLE AND IS A COMPILATION OF ALL CITIES OF EVERYWHERE OF OUR CRASH DATA THAT DOES OUTLINE THOSE CRASH SEVERITIES.

OKAY. SO IT'S BASED ON THE POLICE OFFICER, HIS, HIS, HIS RESPONSE AND HIS, I'M GOING TO

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USE THE WORDS CHECKING THE BOX OR IN HIS REPORT, WHETHER IT'S OBVIOUSLY FATAL IS FATAL. BUT.

SEVERE INJURY OR MINOR INJURY OR POSSIBLE INJURY. CORRECT. OKAY. ON FATAL, DO WE GET I DON'T WANT TO SAY CATCH, BUT DO WE IF THE IF THE YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THE PERSON MAY NOT MAY NOT BE MAY NOT BE A FATAL ACCIDENT ON THE SCENE, BUT 2 OR 3 DAYS LATER, MAYBE DO WE DO WE SOMEHOW UPDATE THAT OR DO WE DO UPDATE CAPTURE THAT? OKAY, SO IT IS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT CAPTURES THAT. THEY THEY TRACK IT TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE FOLLOWING UP WITH, WITH THAT.

AND, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S ONE WEEK OR TWO WEEKS OR, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH LONGER THEY WILL UPDATE THE CRASH REPORT TO, TO NOTE IF SOMEONE DIED AS A RESULT OF THE CRASH. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE. THANK YOU. MAYOR, NO QUESTION. I JUST WANT TO COMMENT THAT I THINK I MAKE EVERY TIME YOU ALL PRESENT SOMETHING TO US LIKE THIS. WHAT REALLY STOOD OUT TO ME IN READING THE REPORT IS ALL THE GRANT FUNDING THAT YOU ALL GET FOR YOUR DEPARTMENT. IT'S REALLY JUST A PARENT READING THROUGH THAT. I MEAN, IT'S JUST EVERY SINGLE PROJECT SEEMS TO HAVE SOME COMPONENT OF THAT, OF SOMEBODY ELSE'S MONEY HELPING MAKE OUR STREETS SAFER OR BETTER IN SOME WAY. AND SO I JUST WANT TO, AGAIN, JUST CALL OUT WHAT A GREAT JOB YOU ALL DO WITH THAT AND HOW IMPACTFUL THAT WAS IN READING THE STUDY AND ALL THE GREAT WORK YOU WANT TO DO AND THE PARTNERSHIPS THAT ARE GOING TO HELP US DO IT. I JUST THINK IT'S AMAZING THE FUNDING SOURCES YOU ALL FIND AND HOW AGGRESSIVE YOU ARE ABOUT GOING ABOUT IT, AND JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU THAT ENCOURAGEMENT. AND THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER CORCORAN. HEY, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I JUST WANT TO SAY ONE, CONGRATULATIONS ON ASSISTANT DIRECTOR. VERY MUCH DESERVED. IT'S BEEN AWESOME WORKING WITH YOU THE PAST FIVE AND A HALF YEARS, REALLY SEEING ALL THE HARD WORK THAT YOU DO. AND I WANTED TO ASK SOMETHING THAT REALLY STRUCK ME ABOUT ALL THE DIFFERENT CRASH GRAPHS OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL THEM, HEAT MAPS DOT MAPS IN THE ACTUAL REPORT IS JUST THAT, THAT ONE DART STATION, IT'S A UNIQUE ONE ON ARAPAHO, WHERE WE HAVE A LOT OF PEDESTRIAN CROSSING TO GET TO THE BUS, THE BUS STATION, SORT OF ACROSS GREENVILLE. AND THERE REALLY WEREN'T THAT MANY PEDESTRIAN INJURIES THERE. AND THAT ALSO HAPPENS TO BE WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, THE FLASHING CROSSWALK AND IT'S REALLY WELL MARKED. I MEAN, ARE THERE LESSONS THAT YOU ALL ARE TAKING FROM THERE TO APPLY TO ANY ANYWHERE ELSE? OR IS THAT I MEAN, DO YOU THINK THAT STUFF'S ALL RELATED? THERE IS SOME AND SOME OF IT GOES BACK INTO THOSE CONTEXTUAL FACTORS WHERE, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT ROADS HAVE DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT ISSUES WHERE YOU KIND OF GREENVILLE IN THAT SECTION IS GOING TO HAVE A DIFFERENT TRAFFIC VOLUME AND SOME SPEEDING CHARACTERISTICS.

WE'VE GOTTEN POSITIVE COMMENTS ABOUT THAT. ONE OF JUST HOW MUCH YIELDING BEHAVIOR WE DO GET FROM DRIVERS AND, AND SOME OF THAT. AND SO WE DO TAKE SOME OF THOSE AS KIND OF LESSONS LEARNED. AND I KNOW WE DO PILOT DIFFERENT THINGS OF HOW DO WE LOOK AT SAFETY AND HOW DO WE APPLY THAT THROUGHOUT THE CITY? AND SO THERE WE ARE KIND OF MOVING TOWARDS THAT AND GETTING LESSONS LEARNED FROM PROJECTS. AND SOME WE LEARN AND YEAH, WE KIND OF WE SHIFT DIRECTIONS.

BUT I KNOW THAT ONE IS A IS A POSITIVE EXAMPLE OF THAT'S WORKED WELL FOR US. AND THEN AS FAR AS THE TOOLBOX GOES ON HERE IS SORT OF Y'ALL'S VISION THAT ANYTIME WE DO ROAD RECONSTRUCTION PROJECTS OR, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE BOND PROJECTS THAT STAFF NOT JUST TRANSPORTATION, BUT OTHER MEMBERS OF STAFF WHEN LOOKING AT THOSE DESIGNS, WILL REFERENCE THAT TOOLBOX TO REALLY SORT OF PLAN AND TO HELP PLAN AND PLAN THAT ROADWAY OUT.

IS THAT IS THAT PART OF THE CULTURE CHANGE OR IT IS ONE AND SOME OF THAT'S KIND OF INSTITUTIONALIZING IT. AND SOME OF THAT EVEN GOES BACK TO, YOU KNOW, IN 2024 COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, YOU ADOPTED THE COMPLETE STREETS POLICY IN 2024, AND THAT REALLY DIRECTED SOME OF HOW DO WE LOOK AT THESE PROJECTS? HOW DO WE LOOK AT HOW DO WE SCOPE THOSE PROJECTS? AND THAT DIRECTS THAT THAT PROCESS THAT WE ARE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL MODES, WE'RE LOOKING AT SAFETY. WE'RE LOOKING. AND SO IT HAS BEEN ONE THAT STAFF HAS ALREADY BEEN DOING. AND SOME OF THAT JUST KIND OF, AGAIN, INSTITUTIONALIZES THAT A LITTLE BIT. BUT YEAH, EVERYONE'S GOING TO BE UNIQUE. EVERY CORRIDOR IS UNIQUE IN ITS OWN WAYS. BUT WE DO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE ROADWAY NEEDS? WHAT ARE THE GOALS WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH ON THESE CORRIDORS? AND SOMETIMES SOMETIMES SAFETY IS OKAY. SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT MAJOR CHANGES AND MAJOR OVERHAUL. AND SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE FEEDBACK WE'VE RECEIVED FROM RESIDENTS THAT LIVE ALO THAT CORRIDOR OR, OR, YOU KNOW, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OR THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE THAT WE WILL TAKE THOSE AND WE TAKE THAT FEEDBACK AND LOOK AT THAT COUNTERMEASURE TOOLBOX. AND SO THAT WOULD BE THE INTENT OF IT.

I SEE. OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER SAMSON. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WELL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. GREAT PRESENTATION, AND CONGRATULATIONS. AND BUT IF YOU CAN HELP ME ON A COUPLE OF THINGS, I THINK THAT WOULD BE REALLY GREATLY APPRECIATED. THE 50/50 IS A GREAT THINGS, YOU KNOW, GOOD NUMBER. IT CATCHES VERY NICELY THAT YOU HAVE SO

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BUT THAT'S 2050 AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE I'M GOING TO BE THAT 2050. SO IS THERE SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD I MEAN, WE WILL NOTICE BEFORE THAT THAT HOW WE ARE ACHIEVING THAT, HOW ARE WE GOING TO SEE THIS THING HAPPENING? 2027, 2030, 20, 35 MOVING FORWARD? HOW DO WE MEASURE THAT? SO THAT IS ONE NEAR THE END OF THE REPORT, WE KIND OF OUTLINE. AND SO GET THAT THAT 50 BY 50, IT'S BASED OFF KIND OF THE FIVE YEAR ROLLING AVERAGE. YOU KNOW, EVERY EVERY YEAR WE'LL BE LOOKING AT THAT BASED OFF THE PRIOR FIVE YEARS. AND SO THE INTENT IS IN THAT IMPLEMENTATION PHASE OF THE PROJECT, WE WILL BE REPORTING ANNUALLY. YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE STATUS? ARE WE MOVING UP? ARE WE MOVING DOWN? ARE WE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION? AND, AND LOOKING AT KIND OF WITHIN THAT CHART IN THE, IN THE DRAFT REPORT WILL OUTLINE KIND OF WHAT ARE SOME KIND OF INTERIM STEPS AS WE LOOK TOWARDS 2050 TO, TO MAKE SURE WE ARE MAKING PROGRESS TOWARDS IT. IF YOU LOOK AT OTHER CITIES ACROSS THE NATION THAT THAT ARE MAKING SIMILAR COMMITMENTS, YOU DO GET JUST SOME KIND OF VARIATIONS IN IT YEAR TO YEAR. YOU KNOW, WE GET SOME YEARS THAT ARE UP, SOME YEARS THAT ARE DOWN. AND THAT'S A LOT OF JUST HOW CRASHES HAPPEN SOMETIMES. BUT LOOKING AT THAT FIVE YEAR AVERAGE OF KIND OF WHICH WAY ARE WE TRENDING OVERALL? AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WANTING TO TRACK YEAR TO YEAR AND BEING ABLE TO REPORT ON THAT TO SEE OVERALL, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THESE ARE GOING TO TAKE LONGER TERM INVESTMENTS. SO IT IS LIKE WE DON'T WANT TO SEE CHANGE.

IT'S NOT UNTIL 2050 WE SEE CHANGE, BUT IT'S HOW DO WE INCREMENTALLY GET THERE? WHERE, YEAH, IT MAY BE 2030, IT MAY BE 2035 BEFORE YOU START SEEING SIGNIFICANT KIND OF REGULAR DECLINES IN IT BASED OFF OF INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENTS. AND THAT'S GREAT. THANK YOU. THAT'S THAT HELPS. AND YOU KNOW, THE, ALL THE REPORTS THAT YOU HAVE TODAY, THE OBSERVATION THAT YOU HAVE DATA YOU HAVE TODAY, SOME OF THE THINGS IS GOING TO CHANGE, LIKE THE NEW DEVELOPMENTS COMING AROUND DART STATION, THE HEAVY TRAFFIC HEAVY, YOU KNOW, WALKING. SO HAVE YOU, I'M SURE YOU GUYS HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT, HOW TO HANDLE THOSE SITUATION LIKE CROSSWALK. DO WE NEED TO DO CROSSWALK A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHERS? BECAUSE THERE WOULD BE MORE TRAFFIC, MORE PEOPLE WOULD BE WALKING, MAYBE ELEVATED CROSSWALK, THOSE KIND OF COMPONENTS. BUT ONCE YOU HAVE THE ROAD BEEN ALREADY DESIGNED, CONSTRUCTED, YOU CAN REALLY GO BACK AND DO ANYTHING ELSE, RIGHT? THEN YOU HAVE TO WAIT FOR ANOTHER FUNDING, ANOTHER WAY OF MANAGING. SO WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHT ON THOSE KIND OF PLACES? IT IS. YEAH, THERE'S THERE'S THAT KIND OF BALANCE. AND SOME OF THAT GOES BACK INTO THAT COUNTERMEASURE TOOLBOX OF, OF WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE THINGS WE CAN DO WHERE. YEAH, KIND OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS IN PLACE. HOW DO WE LOOK AT OUR RESOURCES BASED OFF SOME OF OUR CONSTRAINTS WHERE SOMETHING LIKE A INTERSECTION, THERE ARE A LOT OF TECHNOLOGY COMPONENTS THAT ARE THAT CAN IMPROVE SAFETY, IMPROVE CROSSWALK SAFETY, SOMETIMES EVEN IMPROVE KIND OF COMPLIANCE FROM THE DRIVERS OF HOW DO WE GET YIELDING BEHAVIOR. BUT A LOT OF IT IS LIKE, HOW DO WE THINK AHEAD ALSO? SO HOW DO WE USE, YOU KNOW, THE 2026 BOND PROGRAM AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADVANCE THAT INFRASTRUCTURE SIDE? AND THEN WITHIN SOME OF THOSE ACTIONS AND KIND OF STRATEGIES, IT IS LOOKING AT HOW DO WE INCORPORATE SOME OF THAT INTO OUR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AS WE LOOK AT NEW DEVELOPMENTS COMING IN AND PROACTIVELY LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S A DEVELOPMENT COMING IN ALONG ONE OF OUR HIGH INJURY NETWORK ROADWAYS, HOW DO WE LOOK AT THAT AND EVALUATE, ARE THERE SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED ALONGSIDE THE DEVELOPMENT, OR HOW SHOULD WE BE LOOKING AT FUTURE INVESTMENTS AROUND THOSE AREAS? AND WHAT MAY BE AN IMPACT OF KIND OF LIKE YOU MENTIONED, OF WHAT IF WE ARE CREATING A LOT MORE PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY ALONG AN AREA THAT'S ALREADY GOT SOME SAFETY ISSUES? AND SO HOW DO WE LOOK AT INVESTMENTAND IDENTIFY THOSE EARLY? WELL, THAT'S GREAT ANSWER. LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THOSE KIND OF THINGS. AND YOU PROBABLY WOULD NOT HAVE ANY ANSWER TODAY, BUT I WOULD REQUEST THAT ON SLIDE 20. YOU HAVE A GREAT, YOU KNOW, LOTS OF BULLET, GREAT BULLET POINT, YOU KNOW, BUILD SAFER STREET FOR ALL. AND YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, TWO, TWO BULLET POINTS THERE, YOU KNOW, AND THE ONE THAT REALLY CAUGHT MY EYE WAS THAT SYSTEMATIC IMPROVEMENTS IS A BIG WORD. MAYBE IN THE FUTURE, SOMETIMES MAYBE CITY CAN HAVE SOME KIND OF PRESENTATION FOR AVERAGE PEOPLE LIKE, LIKE ME WHO UNDERSTAND WOULD NOT NEED ENGINEERING BACKGROUND TO UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WHAT THAT MEAN, BECAUSE WE ARE HAVING LOTS OF CONSTRUCTION, LOTS OF IMPROVEMENT GOING ON.

AND THIS IS REALLY THE GREAT TIME TO, YOU KNOW, MODIFY AND UPGRADE THE DESIGN, ELEVATE THE DESIGN SO WE CAN HAVE BETTER EXPERIENCE MOVING FORWARD BECAUSE YOU DON'T REALLY WANT TO GO BACK AND RECONSTRUCT SOMETHING HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE. SO THAT'S THE RIGHT TIME TO

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MAKE SOMETHING GOOD. SO IF YOU COULD GIVE SOME PRESENTATION THAT WOULD MAKE LIKE PEOPLE EXCITED THAT, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS KIND OF THINGS, NOT PARTICULAR AREA ONE PROJECT, BUT IN GENERAL, SOME OF THE COMPONENT COULD BE USED CITYWIDE. THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

MAKES SENSE. YEAH, YEAH. HOW DO WE DO OUR SYSTEMIC IMPROVEMENTS? BECAUSE IT IS ONE KIND OF WITHIN THAT WANTING TO NOT JUST FOCUS ONLY ON THAT HIGH INJURY NETWORK, BUT IT IS WHAT ARE THOSE SYSTEMIC IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN SPREAD THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY AND DO EVERYWHERE. AND A LOT OF THE TIMES THAT ACTUALLY TIES BACK TO OUR SIGNAL SYSTEM, WHERE IF WE'RE DOING SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, MAYBE SIGNAL TIMING, AGAIN, THERE'S DIFFERENT WAYS WE CAN REDUCE CONFLICT, DIFFERENT USER CONFLICTS THROUGH OUR SIGNAL TIMING, AND SOMETIMES THOSE WE'RE DOING SYSTEM WIDE THAT WE ARE SPREADING THAT ACROSS OUR ENTIRE SYSTEM THAT WAY. BUT THERE ARE KIND OF OTHER, OTHER OPPORTUNITIES. SOMETIMES IT'S A PILOT PROGRAM THAT CAN BECOME SYSTEMIC AND AVAILABLE THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER. COUNCILMEMBER DORAN. THANK YOU, MAYOR BRANDON, THANK YOU AND CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR NEW POSITION. THIS IS A VERY INFORMATIONAL. I HAVE JUST A COUPLE THINGS I WANTED TO BRING TO OUR ATTENTION. FIRST OF ALL, YOU KNOW, AS WE'RE CREATING TARGETED AREAS SUCH AS LIKE DOWNTOWN AND CHINATOWN, AND WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE A WALKABLE, MORE MOBILE FRIENDLY ENVIRONMENT, WHICH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ONLY GOING TO INCREASE IN THE FUTURE. IS THERE ARE THERE ANY PLANS OR ANY IDEAS OF HOW WE'RE GOING TO INTEGRATE THE. I'M JUST GOING TO USE RICHARDSON DOWNTOWN, FOR EXAMPLE, OVER TO CHINATOWN IN THAT AREA. AND EVEN AS AS COUNCILMAN COCHRAN MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT THE THE WALKABILITY ACROSS GREENVILLE, BECAUSE I TRAVEL THERE THAT DIRECTION ALL THE TIME. AND THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE GOING ACROSS GREENVILLE. IS THERE ANY THOUGHT ABOUT PUTTING ANY BRIDGING OR ALTERNATE TYPES OF DESIGN IN THOSE HIGH TRAFFIC AREAS FOR WHERE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE MORE WALKABLE, LIKE LIKE DOWNTOWN OR OVER TO CHINATOWN OR ANYTHING BACK AND FORTH UNDERNEATH 75. SO THOSE WILL BE KIND OF A CASE BY CASE BASIS, YOU KNOW, BASED OFF WHAT LEVEL OF, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY WE HAVE AND WHAT OPPORTUNITIES ARE THERE.

SOMETHING LIKE A PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE CAN SOMETIMES FIX ONE SOLUTION. YOU KNOW, IT CAN IT CAN FIX ONE THING, BUT CREATE ITS OWN PROBLEMS. WHERE YOU LOOK AT OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE PUT IN, WHETHER IT'S A BRIDGE OR A TUNNEL, YOU KIND OF SEPARATE YOUR USERS. ACTUALLY, GREENVILLE IS EVEN AN EXAMPLE OF THAT, WHERE THERE'S A TUNNEL OVER TO THE ARAPAHO STATION, BUT THEN PEOPLE JUST WEREN'T USING IT WHERE IT CREATES MAYBE AN INCONVENIENCE OR. AND SO IT IS KIND OF A BALANCE AS WE LOOK AT DEVELOPMENT AND ACTIVITY OF WHERE ARE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES WHERE, YOU KNOW, WHERE A PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE MAY MAKE SENSE VERSUS OTHER CASES WHERE WE LOOK AT ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY OR ANOTHER COUNTERMEASURE THAT CAN ADDRESS THE SAFETY ASPECT WHILE MAKING SURE IT'S CONVENIENT, BECAUSE IT IS ONE THING. AS WE GET INTO A LOT OF THE TRAFFIC THINGS, WE HAVE IDEAS OF HOW WE WANT PEOPLE TO MOVE IN OUR STREETS, BUT THEY DON'T ALWAYS DO WHAT WE WANT. AND SO UNDERSTANDING USER BEHAVIOR AS WELL OF HOW DO WE MAKE IT SAFE, BUT HOW DO WE MAKE IT CONVENIENT AS WELL? AND SO BALANCING BOTH OF THOSE. AND SO WE CAN LOOK AT THOSE OPPORTUNITIES AS THEY COME UP FOR A PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE. I'M NOT AWARE OF ANYTHING SPECIFIC. I THINK THE THE KIND OF DOWNTOWN PLAN HAD A CONCEPT FOR ONE ACROSS KIND OF BELTLINE EAST OF 75. YEAH. BUT IS AGAIN, KIND OF CONCEPTS BASED OFF WHAT KIND OF DEVELOPMENT AND REDEVELOPMENT OCCURS IN THOSE AREAS. YEAH. AS I'VE NOTICED, YOU KNOW, THROUGH DOWNTOWN AND SINCE I TRAVELED THAT AREA A LOT, I NOTICED THAT, YOU KNOW, THE TRAFFIC IS GETTING PRETTY HEAVY. AND I HAVE TO SAY, WHEN I GO UP AND DOWN GREENVILLE, THE STROBING EFFECT GRABS PEOPLE'S ATTENTION. IT ALLOWS YOU TO START SLOWING DOWN. AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, PEDESTRIANS AHEAD. SO I THINK THOSE ARE KEY THINGS, ESPECIALLY IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW YOU ONLY HAVE TWO LANES GOING BACK AND FORTH AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, CONGESTED MOST OF THE TIME. AND IN ORDER TO CREATE THAT AS A WALKABLE AREA, WE'VE GOT TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE INTEGRATE ALL OF THAT DISTRICT DOWN THERE, INCLUDING THE INNER URBAN DISTRICT AND OVER TO THE HEIGHTS AREA. SO THAT IS EVENTUALLY GOING TO BE A FULLY WALKABLE AREA, ESPECIALLY AS WE INFILL WITH RESIDENTIAL AND APARTMENTS. MY SECOND QUESTION IS ON THE ADA COMPLIANCY. WHAT PERCENTAGE ARE WE ON UPGRADES THROUGHOUT THE CITY AT THE MOMENT? I MEAN, JUST BALLPARK, DO YOU KNOW? I MEAN, ARE ALL OF OUR ADA COMPLIANT CORNERS, UNLIKE THE CURB RAMPS, THE CURB RAMPS. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING A LARGER INVENTORY. SO THE 2020 INVENTORY LOOKED AT ALL OF OUR SIGNALIZED INTERSECTIONS. AND I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD OF HOW COMPLIANT VERSUS NONCOMPLIANT WE WERE. BUT IT IS ONE, YOU KNOW, YOU GET INTO HOW MANY NUMBERS OF HOW MANY INTERSECTIONS WE'VE BEEN REDOING. AND EVEN THE 2026 BOND PROGRAM, A LOT OF THAT FUNDING WAS TIED TO REALLY BRINGING UP ANY REMAINING INTERSECTIONS THAT WE MAY NOT BE FULLY

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REBUILDING. BUT LOOKING AT ADA COMPLIANCE ON THAT, WHERE THE INTENT WOULD BE. YEAH. AFTER COMPLETION OF THE 2026 BOND PROGRAM, ALL OF OUR SIGNALIZED INTERSECTIONS WOULD BE SUBSTANTIALLY ADA COMPLIANT. YEAH. THAT'S GOOD. WELL, I DO LIKE THE NEW DESIGN, BY THE WAY.

I THINK IT'S VERY EFFECTIVE. SO JUST WANTED TO KIND OF GET A GENERAL IDEA OF WHAT, YOU KNOW, HOW FAR ALONG WE ARE WITH REDOING ALL THOSE. I MEAN, I'VE BEEN WATCHING THEM FOR YEARS AND I KNOW IT TAKES TIME TO DO IT, BUT JUST WANTED TO KIND OF GET A GENERAL IDEA BECAUSE THAT'S DEFINITELY A PART OF OUR TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER BURDETTE. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU, DANIEL, I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION. AND THEN ACTUALLY READ THROUGH THE FULL REPORT. AND YEAH, THAT WAS QUITE IMPRESSED WITH THE AMOUNT OF RESEARCH AND DATA ANALYSIS THAT WENT INTO PREPARING THE PLAN. ONE THING THAT JUMPED OUT TO ME ON THE HEAT MAP, ESPECIALLY, IS HOW MANY OF THE HOTTEST SPOTS ARE ON ARTERIALS OR AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE CITY AND WAS CURIOUS, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T GO THAT ALONE. OR, YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES THAT COLLABORATION LOOK LIKE? OR HOW DO WE DETERMINE OWNERSHIP OF RESPONSIBILITY OR TO MAKE THIS BETTER? YOU KNOW, THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE CAN DO, BUT I WOULD IMAGINE THAT INVOLVES WORKING WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS OR CITY OF GARLAND ON SOME OF THOSE PARTICULARLY HOT SPOTS. NEGRI OF YEAH, I KNOW, KIND OF WEST SPRING VALLEY AND KIND OF THE SOUTHERN END OF COYOTE POP UP. AND SOME OF IT IS A PARTNERSHIP ON OUR ROADS.

WE END UP, YOU KNOW, THE CITY LIMIT LINE, MAYBE ON THE CENTER LINE OF THAT ROAD. BUT ONE OF THE ENTITIES THROUGH THROUGH AN AGREEMENT HAS KIND OF FULL CONTROL OF THAT RIGHT OF WAY.

AND SO SOMETHING LIKE WEST SPRING VALLEY, THE CITY CONTROLS THE FULL RIGHT OF WAY.

THE CITY OF RICHARDSON CONTROLS THE FULL RIGHT OF WAY WITH PROPERTIES. THEN ON THE SOUTH SIDE BEING CITY OF DALLAS, SOMETIMES IT'S MORE LAND USE ISSUE THAN IT IS KIND OF A ROADWAY ISSUE WHERE SOMETHING LIKE WEST SPRING VALLEY, WE DID A ROAD SAFETY AUDIT IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS, AS WELL AS FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION. AND AND WE ALSO HAD A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE CITY OF DALLAS ON THAT AS WELL, WHERE WE SPENT MULTIPLE DAYS OUT THERE JUST KIND OF OBSERVING HOW DO PEOPLE MOVE? HOW DO THEY WHAT ARE THE ISSUES YOU SEE? WHAT ARE THE SAFETY ISSUES? HOW DO WE CREATE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS WHICH ULTIMATELY LED TO SOME OF THOSE CROSSWALK ENHANCEMENTS ON THE WEST SIDE THERE? AND KIND OF THROUGH THOSE PARTNERSHIPS, SOMETIMES IT IS KIND OF A LAND USE, THOUGH, WHERE WE SEE KIND OF WEST SPRING VALLEY, SIMILAR WITH COYOTE, WE SEE A LOT OF MULTIFAMILY ON THE RICHARDSON SIDE, AND THEN A LOT OF THOSE KIND OF DESTINATIONS WHERE IT'S THE GROCERY STORE, IT'S THE LAUNDROMAT, IT'S THE RESTAURANT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD, REALLY PUSHING A LOT OF THAT ACTIVITY. AND SO SOMETIMES IT IS A LAND USE. AND SO THEN IT'S HOW DO WE CREATE SAFE AREAS FOR THAT BEHAVIOR TO HAPPEN? WE'RE NOT TRYING TO STOP SOMEONE FROM CROSSING THE STREET, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE IT SAFE FOR THEM. AND SO SOMETIMES IT IS A COLLABORATION. ANOTHER EXAMPLE WOULD BE CENTRAL TRAIL EXTENSION KIND OF AROUND WRESTLING. THAT WAS A PARTNERSHIP REALLY LED BY DALLAS COUNTY IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY OF RICHARDSON AND THE CITY OF DALLAS, OF HOW DO WE MAKE A BETTER TRAIL CONNECTION TO CREATE SAFE ACCESS FOR PEOPLE WALKING AND BIKING IN RICHARDSON DOWN INTO DALLAS, THAT MAYBE WANTING TO GO DOWN TO WHITE ROCK. AND IT'S SUCH A MULTI AGENCY WHERE WE'RE ABLE TO WORK TOGETHER, CREATE A PLAN, AND THEN WE REALLY PURSUED FUNDING TOGETHER, WHERE RICHARDSON PARTNERED WITH DALLAS DALLAS COUNTY TO ADVANCE CONSTRUCTION, DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION. AS WE SOUGHT FUNDING TOGETHER FOR THAT. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER MURPHY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTION, BUT I YOU KNOW, I HAD A DREAM. I STILL HAVE THAT DREAM. I'M GOING TO JUST SAY THAT AGAIN SO THAT I REMEMBER AND SOME OTHER PEOPLE ALSO DREAM. I'M SURE SOME OTHER PEOPLE HAD THE SIMILAR DREAM. IT'S ABOUT 75. YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO SEE A PARK ON THE TOP OF WALKABLE PARK ON TOP OF 75 A PORTION, AND THAT WOULD MAKE THE WHOLE AREA WALKABLE. WE NAME IT DIFFERENT WAY, BUT NOT. IT'S SIMILAR TO KLYDE WARREN PARK THAT WE HAVE IN DALLAS. SO WHY WE CAN'T HAVE IN RICHARDSON? BUT IF WE DON'T DREAM IT TODAY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE IT IN THE FUTURE. SO I WOULD NOT QUIT MY DREAM. I'LL KEEP DREAMING.

HOPE SOMEDAY WE'LL SEE THAT HAPPEN. THANK YOU. I'VE JUST GOT A COUPLE COMMENTS. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND CONGRATULATIONS ON THE PROMOTION. YOU KNOW, I, I THINK FIRST OF ALL, I DO WANT TO SECOND, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER RUFFIN SPOKE ABOUT. THERE ARE AREAS THAT ARE RAPIDLY CHANGING. THERE IS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF RETAIL HAPPENING IN AND AROUND THE SPRING VALLEY CORRIDOR NOW ON THE EAST SIDE, THAT IS GOING TO CREATE WALKABILITY OR WALKING LANES WHERE WE DIDN'T EXPECT THEM BEFORE. SO DEFINITELY, I WOULD AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE BE LOOKING AROUND THOSE CORNERS AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW AND WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO THERE. AND I THOUGHT YOUR EXPLANATION WAS PERFECTLY FINE, BUT I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT THAT THAT'S DEFINITELY COMING. OUR DOWNTOWN AREA,

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THERE IS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF ACTIVITY GOING ON WITH SOME NEW RETAIL AND OTHER THINGS THAT ARE THAT ARE HEADING THAT DIRECTION. AGAIN, I SUSPECT THAT'S GOING TO CREATE A LOT OF PEOPLE TRYING TO CROSS THINGS IN AREAS WHERE THEY HAVE PREVIOUSLY NOT CROSSED. MY BIGGEST CONCERN BRINGING UP THESE TWO HOTSPOTS IN PARTICULAR IS, YOU KNOW, AS WE'RE LAUNCHING SAFER STREETS, WHAT IF ALL OF A SUDDEN WE START HAVING AN INFLUX OF MORE PEDESTRIAN ISSUES AND ACCIDENTS, BECAUSE MAYBE WE'RE NOT SCREAMING LOUD ENOUGH THAT IT'S COMING, BUT TO THE EXTENT THAT I KNOW YOU'RE LISTENING AND THAT YOU HEAR, I'D LOVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TRYING ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING TO LOOK AHEAD AND TRY TO WORK AROUND THOSE THINGS, SEEING WHAT WE CAN DO TO MAYBE PARTNER WITH SOME OF THE DIFFERENT RETAILERS TO FIGURE OUT IF THERE ARE THINGS WE CAN DO COMMUNICATIONS WISE THERE, SO THAT THEY CAN ALSO HELP US. BUT IT'S IT'S GOING TO BE IMPORTANT BECAUSE AS WE START HAVING THE SUCCESS THAT I BELIEVE WE'RE STARTING TO HAVE IN THESE AREAS, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WILL BE IMPORTANT IS MAKING SURE THAT THAT WE'RE STAYING ON TOP OF IT. I'D ALSO VERY MUCH, AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, SUGGEST KEEPING YOUR EYES OPEN FOR LOW HANGING FRUIT. I KNOW A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS TAKE YEARS TO HAPPEN, BUT I ALSO WONDER ABOUT SOME OF THE DIFFERENT PROJECTS. YOU KNOW, YOU SEE THINGS LIKE BETTER BLOCK AND OTHERS THAT COME IN AND RAPIDLY KIND OF HELP WITH A PILOT. IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, AT ONE POINT THERE WAS A PILOT AROUND ARAPAHOE STATION FOR THAT CROSSWALK BEFORE IT EVENTUALLY BECAME WHAT IT IS TODAY. AND SO I WOULD DEFINITELY ENCOURAGE AS MUCH OF THAT AS WE POSSIBLY CAN, ESPECIALLY WHERE WE DON'T HAVE FUNDS OR RESOURCES ALREADY IDENTIFIED. SO THOSE ARE ALL MY COMMENTS. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION. REALLY GREAT JOB. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS. ALL

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RIGHT. WE WILL MOVE ON NOW TO ITEM NUMBER SIX, WHICH IS TO REVIEW AND DISCUSS RESIDENT ENGAGEMENT STRATEGIES. MR. MANOR, THANK YOU, MAYOR, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THE NEXT TWO BRIEFINGS ARE FOLLOW UP DISCUSSIONS THAT CAME OUT OF THE FY 27 BUDGET WORKSHOP. AND SO I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE HERE, GREG. SO GREG IS UNABLE TO BE WITH US TONIGHT, BUT GREG WAS A GREAT HELP IN PUTTING TOGETHER THE TWO BRIEFINGS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TONIGHT. SO AS WE GET STARTED HERE, JUST TO REMIND YOU, ONE OF YOUR KEY STRATEGIES, ONE OF YOUR COUNCIL STRATEGIES, IS TO INCREASE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND INPUT. ONE OF THE REMAINING TACTICS TO BE STUDIED UNDER THAT STRATEGY WAS TO EXPLORE WAYS TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR STAKEHOLDERS TO PROVIDE INPUT TO THE CITY. AS I MENTIONED AGAIN, DURING YOUR BUDGET WORKSHOP, YOU DIRECTED STAFF TO SCHEDULE A FOLLOW UP BRIEFING TO FURTHER CONSIDER CITY SPONSORED AND HOSTED COUNCIL TOWN HALL MEETINGS. IN ADDITION, SUBSEQUENT TO THAT, I WAS ASKED TO ALSO REVIEW COUNCIL. THE CONCEPT OF COUNCIL MEETING VIDEO UPDATES AND STREAMING COUNCIL MEETINGS ON FACEBOOK. SO TODAY'S DISCUSSION IS WHAT STAFF IS SEEKING IS COUNCIL DIRECTION ON WHETHER AND HOW TO PROCEED WITH EACH OF THESE POTENTIAL ENGAGEMENT FORMATS AS CONTEXT. AND JUST FOR YOUR BENEFIT AS YOU THINK THROUGH THESE DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES HERE, WE WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU AND WITH THE COMMUNITY FOR THAT MATTER, MAYBE RAISE SOME AWARENESS ABOUT EXISTING OPPORTUNITIES FOR STAKEHOLDER INPUT. THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE'RE WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING TO FURTHER YOUR GOAL. OBVIOUSLY, AT EACH COUNCIL MEETING, A RESIDENTS CAN EITHER PROVIDE COMMENTS TO YOU IN ADVANCE VIA A CARD OR SPEAK IN PERSON ON AGENDA ITEMS OR OTHER ITEMS OF OF INTEREST THAT ARE WITHIN THE CITY'S PURVIEW. WE'VE RECENTLY CREATED OR ASKED RICHARDSON CITY COUNCIL EMAIL ADDRESS IN ADDITION TO YOUR INDIVIDUAL EMAIL ADDRESSES AND AND YOUR VOICEMAILS THAT THAT I KNOW MANY OF YOU RECEIVE CONTACTS, INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS THAT ARE FACILITATED FOR YOU HOSTED HERE AT CITY HALL OR VIRTUALLY WITH, WITH STAKEHOLDERS AND THEN COMMUNITY AND NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS ALL PROVIDE RESIDENTS AND STAKEHOLDERS AND OPPORTUNITY. WE HAVE THE EIGHT COUNCIL PRESIDENTS MEETINGS A YEAR, THE TWO ANNUAL WORKSHOPS EACH OF THE LAST TWO YEARS, APPROXIMATELY 40 NEIGHBORHOOD OR HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION MEETINGS THAT YOU'VE BEEN INVITED TO, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY AROUND SPECIAL PROGRAMS LIKE BOND PROGRAMS OR CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSIONS, OR EVEN SPECIAL PROJECTS LIKE CUSTER ROAD. WE HAVE OPEN HOUSES AND THEN MANY OF OUR CITY PLANNING INITIATIVES PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ENGAGEMENT FOR YOU. NOT THAT WE SPONSOR THEM OR SUPPORT THEM FINANCIALLY, BUT MANY OF THE INQUIRIES THAT WE RECEIVE THE CITY STAFF TO, TO ASSIST YOU WITH COME FROM YOUR OWN SPONSORED WEBSITES AND SOCIAL MEDIA. AND SO ALL OF

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THOSE ARE WAYS THAT YOU'RE CURRENTLY ENGAGING WITH AND RECEIVING INFORMATION FROM OR REQUEST FROM RESIDENTS WITH REGARDS TO HOW DO WE SHARE INFORMATION, THINGS, WHAT HAPPENS AT A COUNCIL MEETING, FOR INSTANCE, OR, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE IMPORTANT PROJECTS THAT WE'LL BE LAUNCHING ON? OUR MOST EFFECTIVE TOOL STILL REMAINS TO THIS DAY. THE RICHARDSON TODAY, WHICH IS DELIVERED MONTHLY TO JUST OVER 51,000 ADDRESSES. NOW, OUR WEEK IN REVIEW HAS BECOME A REALLY POTENT TOOL FOR US. EVERY FRIDAY AT 5:00, YOU ARE ACCUSTOMED TO SEEING UPDATES ABOUT THE COUNCIL MEETING, UPDATES ABOUT EVENTS, UPDATES ABOUT THINGS THAT YOU KNOW ARE IMPORTANT IN THE COMING WEEKS. RICHARDSON. TODAY.COM IS WHERE WE PROVIDE A LOT OF THE VIDEO SUPPORT FOR THESE STORIES. GREG'S TEAM DOES A GREAT JOB EACH WEEK OF POSTING ANYWHERE FROM 2 TO 4 VIDEOS ON DIFFERENT TOPICS, AND THEN SOME VERY CUSTOMIZED NEWSLETTERS TRYING TO HELP OUR HOA AND NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS WITH THEIR OUTREACH EFFORTS. WE'VE GOT THE RICHARDSON TODAY HOA EDITION, THE ENVIRONMENTAL NEWSLETTER, SPECIAL PROJECT NEWSLETTERS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, AND OF COURSE, FROM CITY FROM A VIDEO ACCESS RIGHT NOW, IF IF YOU'RE AT HOME AND YOU WANT TO WATCH THIS LIVE OR SUBSEQUENTLY ON DEMAND, YOU CAN DO THAT FROM ANY BROWSER OR MOBILE DEVICE TODAY. AND OF COURSE, AND CURRENTLY, AND I APOLOGIZE, THIS IS ACTUALLY I'M LOOKING AT THIS NOW. THIS IS ACTUALLY IN REVERSE ORDER HERE. WE'RE CURRENTLY HAVE LIVE STREAMING VIA AT&T, NOT SPECTRUM. BUT WHEN WE RETURN TO CITY HALL, WE'LL RETURN TO THE NEW CITY HALL. WE'LL RETURN TO BOTH AT&T AND SPECTRUM WILL BOTH BE CARRYING OUR COUNCIL MEETINGS LIVE. AND THEN OF COURSE, THE CITY'S WEBSITE, IN ADDITION TO A ROBUST OFFERING OF SOCIAL MEDIA, IS A VERY, VERY POTENT TOOL FOR US. YOU SEE THERE THE RICHARDSON'S TODAY WITH OVER 15,000 ALONE BETWEEN FACEBOOK AND INSTAGRAM AND A WHOLE HOST OF OTHER OTHER SOCIAL MEDIA THAT WE USE TO GET THE WORD OUT. SO IN TERMS OF POSSIBLE ADDITIONAL ENGAGEMENT FORMATS, THEY'RE REALLY THREE, AS I MENTIONED. SO CITY SPONSORED, HOSTED, HOSTED TOWN HALL MEETINGS THAT WOULD PROVIDE ANOTHER OPTION FOR SCHEDULED CONVERSATIONS WITH RESIDENTS AND, AND DISCUSSION ON COMMUNITY ISSUES. THE COUNCIL MEETING VIDEO UPDATES WOULD BE A NEW WAY TO ENHANCE EXISTING STRATEGIES TO EXPLAIN COUNCIL ACTIONS AND CITY PRIORITIES. AND THEN FINALLY, COUNCIL MEETING FACEBOOK STREAMING WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL WAY TO WATCH FOR RESIDENTS AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS TO WATCH COUNCIL MEETINGS LIVE. WHAT I'VE DONE FOR YOU. COUNCIL, TO HELP FACILITATE A CONVERSATION AROUND THESE ITEMS IS JUST TO PROVIDE SOME WHAT I WOULD JUST CALL SOME PROS AND CONS, BEST PRACTICES OR IMPORTANT CONSIDERATIONS AROUND EACH OF THESE TOPICS. AND THEN I'LL CONCLUDE WITH JUST A SLIDE TO POSE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR YOU TO, TO DIALOG ABOUT HOPEFULLY ARRIVING AT SOME ANSWERS WITH RESPECT TO THE CITY SPONSORED TOWN HALLS OR HOSTED TOWN HALL MEETINGS, SOME OF THE POTENTIAL BENEFITS, AS WE'VE TALKED TO SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES, ARE OBVIOUSLY DIRECT ACCESS TO YOU SO RESIDENTS CAN ASK QUESTIONS AND SHARE CONCERNS IN A SETTING THAT'S VERY MUCH INTENDED TO BE CONVERSATIONAL. CITY SERVICES, PROJECT DECISION DECISIONS AND BUDGET TRADE OFFS CAN OFTEN BE EXPLAINED HERE. WHAT I HEAR FROM MY MY PEERS IS THAT CITY STAFF SOMETIMES HAS A ROLE IN ON THESE BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF. THE QUESTIONS TEND TO BE VERY NUTS AND BOLTS OR VERY TECHNICAL AND AWARENESS ON YOUR PART OF CONCERNS. AND SO THIS IS A GREAT WAY TO IDENTIFY EMERGING ISSUES AND, AND TAKE IN DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES BEFORE CONSIDERING FUTURE ACTION. AND THEN FINALLY, IF THE CITY IS COORDINATING THIS, IT CAN PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, ACCESSIBLE VENUES. WE HAVE LOTS OF CITY FACILITIES, DOCUMENT QUESTIONS AND ROUTE RESPONSES TO RESIDENTS. THAT LEADS INTO THE FIRST CONSIDERATION. ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE LEDGER HERE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE PREP WORK FOR THESE, WHEN THEY'RE CITY SPONSORED AND HOSTING THE STAFFING OF THE MEETINGS THEMSELVES. AND THE FOLLOW UP DO REQUIRE STAFF TIME. AND, YOU KNOW, THE LEVEL OF THAT SUPPORT WOULD, WOULD BE AND IS GREATLY DEPENDENT ON THE FORMAT AND THE FREQUENCY THAT YOU WOULD DECIDE. SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S, I THINK TO BE DETERMINED. YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WHAT WE HEAR FROM, FROM IN TERMS OF BEST PRACTICES, THAT ATTENDANCE MAY NOT ALWAYS REFLECT THE BROADER COMMUNITY. AND SO WHEN YOU TEND TO HAVE OTHER OPTIONS. NOT EVERYBODY CHOOSES THIS ONE. AND SO, SO THAT'S A CONSIDERATION IN TERMS OF EXPECTATIONS, IMMEDIATE ACTIONS. IT'S IMPORTANT TO WHAT WE HEAR OVER AND OVER. RESIDENTS UNDERSTAND AND DO NOT INTERPRET INDIVIDUAL COMMENTS AT CITY AND CITY POLICY OR COMMITMENTS BEYOND THE APPROVED PRIORITIES. AND THAT'S OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING FOR THE FOR THE COUNCIL TO KIND OF BE MINDFUL OF. AND THEN FINALLY, REGARDLESS OF HOW THESE ARE DONE OR LOOK IN THE FREQUENCY, THE MOST COMMON PIECE OF FEEDBACK IS THAT JUST CLEAR EXPECTATIONS. EXPECTATIONS THAT CAN HELP DISTINGUISH INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL PERSPECTIVES. YOU KNOW, NOT ALL FEEL THE SAME WAY ABOUT THINGS ALL THE TIME. ADOPTED CITY POLICY. SO MAKING SURE

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THAT UNDERSTOOD WHAT IS ADOPTED AND NOT ADOPTED. AND THEN AND THEN WHAT MATTERS REQUIRE SUBSEQUENT COUNCIL CONSIDERATION. AND SO AGAIN, I THINK A FAIR AND BALANCED LOOK HERE AT THE PROS AND THE CONS OF, OF TOWN HALL MEETINGS THAT ARE SPONSORED AND SOME OUTSTANDING QUESTIONS WITH REGARD TO THE VIDEO UPDATES AND IN TERMS OF SOME POTENTIAL BENEFITS, OBVIOUSLY, BRIEF RECAPS CAN EXPLAIN COUNCIL ACTIONS, SOMETIMES EFFECTIVELY, WHY THEY MATTER AND WHY RESIDENTS CAN. WHAT RESIDENTS CAN EXPECT NEXT. COMING OUT OF THE RECAPS, RESIDENTS CAN WATCH THEM AND SHARE UPDATES ON THEIR ON THEIR OWN SCHEDULE, WHICH IS CONVENIENT. AND THAT'S HELPFUL. AND THEN THE CITY CAN SHARE AND USE THE SAME UPDATES THROUGH ITS EXISTING CHANNELS. AND SO KIND OF EXPONENTIALLY GET SOME BENEFIT OUT OF IT IN TERMS OF SOME CONSIDERATIONS. AGAIN, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE LEDGER, AGAIN, SCRIPTING, FILMING AND EDITING REQUIRE ONGOING STAFF AND MEMBER TIME, ALONG WITH CAPTIONING FOR ADA COMPLIANCE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. AND SO, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING AGAIN ON THE FREQUENCY AND HOW LONG THESE VIDEOS ARE, IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A QUESTION OF RESOURCING. AGAIN, IN TERMS OF BEST PRACTICES, UPDATES MUST ENSURE, YOU KNOW, ACCURACY, ACKNOWLEDGING DIFFERENT VIEWS, PARTICULARLY ON THINGS WHERE YOU MAY HAVE ZONING CASES OR ENTITLEMENT ISSUES THAT MAY NOT BE UNANIMOUS. AND THEN IT'S IMPORTANT TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN INDIVIDUAL PERSPECTIVES FROM COUNCIL, FROM CITY, FROM CITY ACTIONS. AND SO THINGS OF THIS NATURE THAT COME TO MIND FOR US ARE, YOU KNOW, WHO IS WRITING THE SCRIPT, WHO IS PICKING THE TOPICS, FOR INSTANCE, AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO AGREE ON THAT IN TERMS OF THE LAST CONSIDERATION THERE IS, YOU KNOW, THERE IS THE THERE IS THE RISK OF THAT. VIDEOS MAY OVERSIMPLIFY AN ISSUE. ON THE ONE HAND, SOME ISSUES CAN BE EXPLAINED VERY EFFECTIVELY IN A SHORT VIDEO. BUT AND THERE'S THERE'S LOTS OF COMPLICATED THINGS THAT YOU HAVE TO DECIDE ON AND MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT.

AND SO HOW DO WE HOW DO WE STRIKE THAT BALANCE IN TERMS OF STREAMING COUNCIL MEETINGS ON FEEDBACK JUST PROVIDES AN ADDITIONAL WAY FOR INCREASING VISIBILITY OF COUNCIL MEETINGS.

RESIDENTS MAY DISCOVER THE COUNCIL MEETING THROUGH FACEBOOK OR THROUGH OTHER POSTS.

IT'S RESIDENTS WILL HAVE ANOTHER WAY TO WATCH THE MEETINGS, INCLUDING ON MOBILE DEVICES. AGAIN, WE STREAM AND. AND ANYBODY IN THIS ROOM OR ANYBODY IN THE CITY TODAY CAN EASILY ACCESS THE VIDEO, BUT IT JUST PROVIDES ANOTHER OPTION. AND THAT'S NOT A THAT'S A GOOD THING IN TERMS OF THE CONSIDERATIONS. YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE ABSOLUTES IN THIS IS, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL IS GOING TO NEED TO DECIDE WHETHER YOU'RE GOING TO ALLOW COMMENTS AND HOW ARE YOU GOING TO HANDLE THOSE COMMENTS? IF YOU ALLOW COMMENTS, THERE IS A UNDENIABLE EXPECTATION THAT THOSE COMMENTS ARE GOING TO BE ADDRESSED. WHERE WE ALLOW COMMENTS ON OUR SOCIAL MEDIA, WE ADDRESS THOSE COMMENTS BECAUSE THAT'S WE'RE A RESPONSIVE ORGANIZATION AND THAT'S WHAT WE FEEL IS RIGHT. THIS WOULD BE A REAL CONVERSATION AROUND HOW YOU WOULD DO THAT DURING A MEETING AND TO WHAT LEVEL YOU WOULD YOU WOULD RESPOND IF YOU DECIDED THAT YOU WANTED TO HAVE COMMENTS. AND THEN AND THEN AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THIS IS BECAUSE IT IS SUCH A LOW BAR IN IN TERMS OF RESOURCES AND, YOU KNOW, COMMENTARY A LITTLE BIT HERE. BUT EVEN IF YOU DIDN'T ONLY REACHED AN EXISTING AUDIENCE OR EVEN IF YOU REACHED JUST A FEW MORE PEOPLE, IT'S NOT THE SAME KIND OF RESOURCE CONSIDERATION AS OTHER THINGS.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T REALLY THINK THAT THAT'S A BIG DECISION. AND SO HERE'S MY FINAL SLIDE. AND THEN, MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE TO TURN IT BACK OVER TO YOU TO KIND OF FACILITATE THE DISCUSSION. BUT THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO KNOW. SO IF YOU WANTED TO PURSUE CITY SPONSORED AND HOSTED TOWN HALL MEETINGS, WHAT WOULD THE GOALS BE FOR THOSE TOWN HALL MEETINGS? FROM THE COUNCIL'S PERSPECTIVE, WHAT FORMAT WOULD BEST SUPPORT BOTH RESIDENT ACCESS AND PARTICIPATION, AS WELL AS COUNCIL PARTICIPATION, AND THEN WHAT LEVEL OF CITY COORDINATION AND STAFF SUPPORT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE IN YOUR OPINION? IF I KNOW THOSE THINGS, I CAN KIND OF BUILD A PLAN THAT'S RESPONSIVE TO TO WHAT YOU DECIDE ON THE MEETING. VIDEO UPDATES. AGAIN, IF PURSUED, WHAT GOALS WOULD YOU LIKE THE VIDEO UPDATES TO SERVE? AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS, GIVEN SOME OF THE OTHER OUTREACH THAT WE HAVE KIND OF ARE WE ARE WE KIND OF ARE WE TRYING TO JUST REINFORCE THOSE THINGS? OR ARE THERE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT YOU WOULD BE WANTING US TO TRY TO ACHIEVE WITH THE VIDEOS VERSUS SOME OF THE OTHER COMMUNICATION CHANNELS? AGAIN, WHAT SCHEDULE PRODUCTION SUPPORT AND WOULD REVIEW PROCESS WOULD BE APPROPRIATE? AND AGAIN, HOW DO WE AGREE ON, ON THE, ON WHAT TOPICS AND MESSAGING AND THEN HOW COULD, HOW COULD THE FORMAT LIKE THIS ACCOMMODATE COUNCIL PARTICIPATION WHILE CLEARLY IDENTIFYING, YOU KNOW, YOUR INDIVIDUAL PERSPECTIVES FROM COUNCIL ACTIONS? AND THEN FINALLY, ON THE LAST TOPIC, HOW MIGHT FACEBOOK STREAMING COMPLEMENT OUR EXISTING WAYS TO TO WATCH COUNCIL MEETINGS AND THEN WHAT APPROACH TO VIEWER COMMENTS WOULD BE APPROPRIATE? AND SO AGAIN, THESE ARE JUST, THESE ARE JUST OUR, OUR, OUR, OUR TAKE ON THE QUESTIONS THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL THAT WE BELIEVE WOULD START GUIDING TOWARDS MAYBE A CONSENSUS MAYOR THAT YOU AND THE COUNCIL WOULD REACH. BUT THERE ARE PROBABLY OTHER REALLY IMPORTANT QUESTIONS AS WELL THAT THAT COULD BE DISCUSSED. AND SO I'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. IF NOT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU FOR THE DISCUSSION. THANK YOU, MR. MAGNER. OBVIOUSLY, IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS FOR MR. MAGNER, WE COULD GO THROUGH THOSE. BUT ALSO, I'M CURIOUS, JUST SO THAT WE HAVE SOME PROCESS HERE. DO YOU GUYS WANT

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TO JUST START WITH JUST GENERAL COMMENTS AND THEN GO ONE BY ONE, WHERE WE EACH TAKE OUR TURN ON ON THE. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE. YEAH. I MEAN, JUST A GENERAL COMMENT.

I'M IN FAVOR OF ALL THESE. I THINK THE TWO QUESTIONS I HAVE, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT CART BEFORE THE HORSE IS WHAT WOULD THE COST BE AND WHAT WOULD THE STAFF SORT OF RESOURCE TIME BE? BUT I THINK THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DEPENDENT ON US GIVING YOU DIRECTION, RIGHT? SO THAT THOSE ARE MY INITIAL QUESTIONS. TOWN HALLS AS FAR AS A CADENCE, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THE WAY THAT THE MAYOR HAS SET THEM UP QUARTERLY MAKES SENSE TO ME. AND I THINK THE FORMAT, AT LEAST THE ONE THAT I ATTENDED, I THOUGHT WAS GOOD. YOU KNOW, WE USED A QUITE HE USED A QUESTION SUBMISSION PLATFORM. FOLKS COULD VOTE UP THE MOST IMPORTANT QUESTIONS TO THEM, AND WE COULD ANSWER THOSE. AND WHERE WE COULDN'T, WE TOOK IT AWAY AND CAME BACK TO STAFF WITH, WITH THOSE QUESTIONS. AND SO I THINK THAT THAT WAS A GOOD FORMAT. COUNCILMAN CORCORAN, I THINK, HAD SOME CONCERNS AROUND ELECTION SEASON. SO I'D BE CURIOUS IF HE HAS COMMENTS ABOUT WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS DURING THE BUDGET CONTEXT, WHAT THOSE MIGHT BE AND HOW THAT MIGHT SHAPE IT. BUT THOSE ARE MY INITIAL THOUGHTS ON TOWN HALL IS TO SORT OF FOLLOW THE CADENCE AND FORMAT THAT THE MAYOR HAS ALREADY SET WITH HIS TOWN HALLS.

I THOUGHT THAT THOSE THE ONE I ATTENDED WAS WAS HELPFUL AND INFORMATIVE AND GOOD QUESTIONS WERE ASKED. THE VIDEO UPDATES IS ONE THAT I SUBMITTED TO THE MAYOR. IF YOU WATCH WHAT ARIA IS DOING, IT'S MONTHLY AND IT'S JUST HIGHLY FACTUAL. HERE IS WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN OUR ASD FROM A BOARD OF TRUSTEES STANDPOINT IN THE LAST MONTH. AND I THINK THAT THAT'S JUST A NEW WAY, YOU KNOW, FOR FOLKS WHO DON'T WANT TO SIT HERE AND WATCH OUR THREE HOUR MEETINGS OR READ A NEWSPAPER, IT'S JUST A NEW WAY TO SORT OF ENGAGE WITH PEOPLE IN A MEDIUM THAT WE'RE NOT AS A COUNCIL CURRENTLY DOING. AND SO I REALLY LIKE THAT IDEA. AND SO MY PERSPECTIVE ON THOSE IS THAT, AGAIN, IT WOULD JUST BE ENTIRELY FACTUAL. HERE'S WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE LAST MONTH. NO OPINIONS, ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SO IF THE COUNCIL HAS NOT SEEN THOSE VIDEOS, I ENCOURAGE THEM TO GO LOOK AT THEM BECAUSE AGAIN, I JUST THINK IT'S A GOOD WAY TO COMMUNICATE. IN A BRIEF SNIPPET, HERE'S WHAT YOUR COUNCIL HAS DONE OVER THE PAST MONTH. VERY HELPFUL. THAT WOULD BE MY DIRECTION ON THAT. AND THEN, YEAH, I THINK. MR. YOUR LAST COMMENT WAS SORT OF ON POINT ABOUT WHY NOT PUT IT ON FACEBOOK? JUST IF IT'S REACHING FOR MORE PEOPLE, IT'S REACHING FOR MORE PEOPLE. SO I'M OKAY WITH THAT. THAT'S MY INITIAL COMMENT ON THE THREE. PERFECT. COUNCIL MEMBER. CORCORAN. T YOU, MR. MAYOR.

YEAH, I'LL DEFINITELY ADDRESS MY ELECTION TIME CONCERNS HERE IN A SEC. JUST GOING REALLY, I DON'T HAVE ANY GENERAL COMMENTS, BUT STARTING WITH THE CITY SPONSORED AND HOSTED TOWN HALL MEETINGS, YOU KNOW, I HAVE SPOKEN TO SOME OF OUR COLLEAGUES IN GARLAND AND THEY REALLY SWEAR BY THESE TOWN HALLS. SO, YOU KNOW, BASED ON THEIR EXPERIENCE, I WOULD DEFINITELY SUPPORT SORT OF A PILOT PROGRAM FOR THIS IDEA OF TAXPAYER FUNDED TOWN HALLS. BUT DEFINITELY PURSUANT TO THE CONCERNS I HAD DURING BUDGET SEASON AND STILL HAVE, I REALLY WANT SOME STRICT GUARDRAILS IN PLACE. SO JUST AS SORT OF A STARTING POINT FROM MY END, RIGHT? ONE, I, I UNDERSTAND QUARTERLY, BUT I FEEL LIKE QUARTERLY FOR SEVEN PEOPLE WILL GET TO BE A LOT. AND SO MY INITIAL THOUGHT WAS, HEY, FOR A PILOT PROGRAM, TWO A TERM ONE EACH YEAR, I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S. SEVEN FOR CITY STAFF TO MANAGE. I MEAN, THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT A LOT. AND YOU CAN BUMP IT UP TO FOUR LATER ON, RIGHT? IF IT IF IT WORKS OUT, I THINK MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE SCHEDULED AT LEAST A MONTH IN ADVANCE SO THAT THE CMO HAS TIME TO PREPARE THE APPROPRIATE STAFF AND PRESENTATIONS IS REALLY IMPORTANT. AND THEN MAKING SURE FROM A TIME PERSPECTIVE THAT THE TOWN HALLS ARE REALLY SCHEDULED TO BE NO MORE THAN AN HOUR AND A HALF, TWO HOURS LONG, I THINK WITH, YOU KNOW, EACH COUNCIL MEMBER BEING ENTITLED TO A PLANNING SESSION WITH THE STAFF WHO WILL BE PRESENT AT THEIR TAXPAYER FUNDED TOWN HALL. I ALSO THINK KIND OF TALKING ABOUT THE THE CONCERNS ABOUT POLITICAL, POLITICAL, BUT ALSO TAXPAYER FUNDED TOWN HALLS. I MEAN, DOING SOME RESEARCH. I MEAN, THE BIGGEST CRITICISM I'VE SEEN OF SORT OF GOVERNMENT SPONSORED TOWN HALLS IS THAT DURING ELECTIONS, IT'S REALLY ONLY DURING ELECTION SEASON. THAT'S WHEN ALL THE COMPLAINTS REALLY START COMING IN AND THE CONTROVERSY HAPPENS. SO, YOU KNOW, ONE, I THINK AND FOR ME, I REALLY THINK THESE THREE THINGS ARE FAIRLY NON-NEGOTIABLE. I MEAN, I THINK THAT IF YOU FILE TO BE ON THE BALLOT FOR AN ANNOUNCED ELECTION, YOU DON'T GET TO HOST ANY MORE TAXPAYER FUNDED TOWN HALLS UNTIL THAT ELECTION IS OVER. I THINK THAT TAXPAYER FUNDED TOWN HALL SHOULD BE HELD ON GOVERNMENT PROPERTY. SO WHETHER IT'S ISD, CITY, PROPERTY, UTD, I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO REINFORCE THE NEUTRALITY AND REALLY THE SORT OF NONPARTISAN, NONPOLITICAL NATURE OF THEM. AND THEN NUMBER THREE, I'D REALLY WANT CITY STAFF TO HAVE THE ABSOLUTE DISCRETION ON BEING ABLE TO STEP AWAY OR END ONE OF THESE TOWN HALLS IF THEY PERCEIVE THE CONVERSATION IS GETTING POLITICAL. I ALSO, I

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REALLY DON'T WANT THAT DECISION, SOME SORT OF GUARDRAIL TO MAKE SURE IT'S NOT USED AGAINST THEM AND THAT IT CAN'T BE APPEALED BY THE COUNCIL MEMBER TO THE CITY MANAGER OR, YOU KNOW, APPEAL TO THE REST OF COUNCIL IF THE PERSON MAKING THAT DECISION IS THE CITY MANAGER. I THINK THOSE THREE THINGS, OR SOME SORT OF VERSION OF THOSE IS REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT TO MAINTAIN RESPECT FOR THE PROCESS. AND THAT'S, HEY, I'M SORRY. YEAH. YOU'RE GOOD. I DIDN'T MEAN GO AHEAD. HEY, SAME SAME SENTIMENT ON THE FACEBOOK STREAMING 100% AND THEN ON THE VIDEO UPDATES. NO REAL OPINION. BUT I MEAN, I THINK ONCE A MONTH IS, IS VERY, VERY DOABLE AND DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT'S A HUGE BURDEN ON CITY STAFF'S TIME. PERFECT. WELL, WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS I'M GOING TO ASK EVERYBODY IF WE WANT TO DO COMMENTS RIGHT NOW. LET'S KEEP THEM ALL JUST SUPER HIGH LEVEL. AND THEN WE'LL DIVE INTO EACH ONE OF THOSE. AND BY THE WAY, THOSE ARE ALL GOOD COMMENTS. NOTHING WRONG WITH ANY OF THEM. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE GET TO THAT, LET'S, LET'S DIG DEEP ON SOME OF THOSE ISSUES YOU JUST MENTIONED. BUT IF WE HAVE OVERALL VERY HIGH LEVEL COMMENTS RIGHT NOW, LET'S DO THOSE. AND THEN WE CAN GO INTO THE DEEP ONES. SO COUNCIL MEMBER SERAFINI NO IT'S OKAY. TOTALLY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

I MEAN, IT'S A GOOD CONVERSATION. MY QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, CITY HAS LOTS OF DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, WAY OF COMMUNICATING OUTSIDE. AND IT'S NOT JUST 1 OR 2. THERE'S A BUNCH OF THINGS THAT WE DO. DO WE KNOW WHICH ONE IS WORKING OR WHICH ONE IS NOT WORKING? AND YOU KNOW WHAT WE SPENT HOW MUCH WE SPENT MONEY WISE. SO IF WE ARE DOING CERTAIN THINGS NOT WORKING, DEFINITELY WE CAN. WE HAVE TO ADD MORE THINGS TO DO IT. AND IF SOMETHING IS NOT WORKING, WHY EVEN WE ARE SPENDING WASTING THE MONEY, TAXPAYERS MONEY, I WOULD RATHER SHUT DOWN SOME OF THE THINGS DOESN'T WORK. SO I THINK I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT IF SOMETHING IS NOT WORKING AND, AND, AND HOW WE IMPROVE THIS, YOU KNOW, COMMUNICATION. I THINK THAT'S, I THINK THAT THAT NEED TO BE ONE OF THE BULLET POINTS THERE.

MAYBE THE FIRST BULLET POINT. THAT'S MY GENERAL COMMENT. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER DORIAN, THANK YOU. I, I'LL TRY TO KEEP MY I'LL TRY TO KEEP THESE HIGH LEVEL. AND WE CAN DIVE INTO THE WEEDS LATER. BUT JUST A COUPLE COMMENTS. I WANT TO TRY TO PLAY THE DEVIL'S ADVOCATE ON THIS AS WELL. ONE. FIRST OF ALL, YOU KNOW, I THINK TOWN HALL MEETINGS, FACEBOOK STREAMING AND MEETING UPDATES VIA VIDEO ARE ALL GOOD THINGS. THERE ARE ALL THINGS I, YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY THINK WE SHOULD BE CONSIDERING AS TIME GOES ON. THE ONLY THING THAT ALWAYS CONCERNS ME IS, IS, YOU KNOW, WITH A CITY OF 120,000 PEOPLE, HOW MUCH INFORMATION, OPPORTUNITIES AND OPTIONS ARE SHOULD WE BE AT THIS TIME? AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT THIS THIS SHOULD NEVER TAKE PLACE. I'M JUST SAYING WHAT IS THE IS THE TIMING RIGHT? AND WHEN WILL THE TIMING BE RIGHT TO PUT SOME OF THESE INTO PRODUCTION, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, MY FIRST COMMENT ON THE TOWN HALL MEETINGS, I LOVE THE TOWN HALL MEETINGS. I KNOW OTHER CITIES ARE DOING IT AS WELL, BUT MY CONCERN IS HOW MUCH TIME AND EFFORT DOES THAT PUT ON THE CITY AND HOW MUCH HOW MUCH MORE DOLLARS DOES THAT PUT IN ON THE BUDGET? BECAUSE WE JUST GOT THROUGH CUTTING 14 POSITIONS TO SORT OF JUSTIFY OUR BUDGET. AND BY ADDING MORE OF THESE ITEMS, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO BE INCREASING THOSE. AND I'M NOT AGAIN, I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD NOT DO AT SOME POINT. I JUST THINK, IS THERE A RIGHT TIME FOR THINGS LIKE THIS? I MEAN, I SUPPORT IT, BUT I THINK I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S THE RIGHT TIME FOR THE TOWN HALL MEETING. AS FAR AS THE FACEBOOK POSTING, I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY A REAL EASY THING TO DO. IF WE COULD USE THE VIDEO THAT WE ALREADY HAVE, AND MAYBE SOME OF US ALREADY REPOST THE MONDAY NIGHT MEETINGS ON OUR PERSONAL AND, YOU KNOW, OUR CAMPAIGN FACEBOOK SITE AND LINKEDIN. SO WE'RE GETTING IT FROM A LOT OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE. IT'S LIKE, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO READ IT AND HOW MANY TIMES ARE YOU GOING TO SEE IT OUT THERE? SO I MEAN, AGAIN, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THAT. I THINK THAT'S A GREAT PLATFORM ALONG WITH OTHERS. HOW WE DO THAT. WE PROBABLY NEED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT. IF WE WERE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT. AND THEN WHAT ARE OTHER CITIES DOING? AND HONESTLY, ON THE FACEBOOK SIDE, I HAVE TO AGREE. IT'S LIKE, WHO'S GOING TO MONITOR THAT AND WHAT'S GOING TO BE SAID AND HOW MUCH CRAZINESS IS GOING ON? BECAUSE I'LL TELL YOU, IF IT'S ANYTHING LIKE A NEXT DOOR, I MEAN, YOU HAVE TO BE ON TOP OF ALL YOUR COMMENTS IF YOU'RE GOING TO POST SOMETHING OUT THERE, YOU'VE GOT TO BE READY TO HAVE SOMEBODY THERE ON THE TEAM OR MULTIPLE A MULTITUDE OF PEOPLE ON THE TEAM TO BE READY TO, YOU KNOW, INITIATE SOME COMMENTS BACK AND FORTH. AND ON THE I HAVE ONE QUESTION ON THE VIDEO, LIKE FOR THE RISD VIDEO, WOULD WE BE REPRODUCING THAT OR WOULD WE BE TAKING CLIPS OF WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN ORDER TO PIECE THAT TOGETHER? THE IDEA WOULD BE THAT THERE WOULD BE A, JUST LIKE ON THE VIDEO, A

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COUNCIL MEMBER WOULD ESSENTIALLY READ OFF A PROMPTER WHAT IT WAS THAT HAPPENED IN THE LAST MONTH OF COUNCIL MEETINGS. OKAY. SO THERE WOULD BE A SCRIPT SORT OF LIKE WHAT WE HAVE FOR STATE OF THE CITY. OKAY. SO THAT WOULD BASICALLY THAT WOULD TAKE 1 OR 2 STAFF MEMBERS IN ORDER TO JUST TAKE THAT DATA AND CLEAN IT UP AND REPURPOSE IT. AND THEN, AND THEN THE TIME WE WOULD TAKE TO, TO DO ALL THE VIDEOING, CORRECT. ALL THE RECORDING. OKAY. YES.

OKAY. I'LL LEAVE IT THERE FOR NOW. WE'LL GO INTO THE DETAILS AS SOON AS WE GET BACK AROUND FOR THE NEXT ROUND. AND WE'LL JUST START AT THE TOP AND WORK OUR WAY ONE BY ONE THROUGH THE BOTTOM. THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHENRIDER. THANK YOU. MAYOR ON THE CITY SPONSORED HOSTED TOWN HALL MEETINGS. THIS HASN'T BEEN SAID YET. SO IT'S MAYBE A QUESTION TO DON. ALL SEVEN WOULD BE INVITED TO EVERY TOWN HALL MEETING. IS THAT A IS THAT A TRUE STEP FOR US TO DECIDE? THAT'S FOR US TO DECIDE. SO THAT'LL BE A PART OF OUR DETAILED CONVERSATION ON THE QUARTERLY TOWN HALL. OKAY. THEY COULD BE JUST LIKE I'VE DONE THEM THUS FAR, WHICH IS THE PERSON FROM THAT DISTRICT, BUT FROM THAT PLACE. BUT IT COULD ALSO BE DONE ALSO. I MEAN, WE CAN DISCUSS THAT AS A AS A COUNCIL AS TO HOW WE WANT TO DO A QUARTERLY TOWN HALL. OKAY. A, BEFORE WE MAKE A FINAL DECISION. I THINK IF I, I THINK IT WAS COUNCILWOMAN JUSTICE, IF I'M WRONG, I APOLOGIZE, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THE COST ON EACH OF THESE. AND THEN THE OTHER THE OTHER QUESTION IS SORT OF SORT OF A KIND OF TO COUNCIL MEMBER ARVIN'S COMMENT IS, IS THERE ANYTHING WE WOULD CONSIDER REPLACING SO THAT WE WE YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IF WE IF WE'RE GOING TO DO FACEBOOK STREAMING, I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S ANYTHING OR THE VIDEO UPDATES. IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE WOULD THINK ABOUT NOT NECESSARILY DOING SO THAT WE HAD A NET SUM ZERO. JUST IF, IF, IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S, I DON'T WANT TO SAY NOT WORKING, BUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S NOT READILY READ OR PERCEIVED BY THE BY THE CITIZENS, THAT IT'S A GOOD VALUE. I'D LIKE TO I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THAT AS WE GO THROUGH THIS. SO I THINK I THINK YEAH, I THINK THOSE ARE MY GENERAL COMMENTS. THANK YOU.

PERFECT. SO LET'S START WITH THE TOWN HALL MEETINGS. I'LL START JUST WITH A REAL HIGH LEVEL. THIS CAN BE AS INVOLVED OR NOT INVOLVED AS WE WANT IT TO BE. SO KEEP IN MIND THAT WE'VE DONE NOW SIX WITH A SEVENTH ONE THAT'S I THINK THAT'S RIGHT. WITH THE SEVENTH ONE THAT'S THAT'S SCHEDULED WHERE IT WAS ME DOING THE SCHEDULING. SO SOMEONE OTHER THAN ME WOULD DO THE SCHEDULING. AND THIS IS IF WE DID IT THE WAY THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IT, WE CAN ALSO CHANGE IT TO SOME OF THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS THERE ARE OUT THERE. THE TOTAL COST FOR ALL SIX SO FAR HAS PROBABLY BEEN SOMETHING LIKE $500. SO JUST IN CASE THE TAXPAYER FUNDED ELEMENT OF THIS IS A CONCERN, AND I DIDN'T MEAN THAT SPECIFIC TO TO ANYONE, BUT JUST JUST LIKE I DON'T IF THAT'S THE CONCERN ABOUT THE MONEY, THE IT CAN BE VERY INEXPENSIVE AND.

AND THEN WELL, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S BASICALLY IT. WE COULD, WE COULD REPLICATE WHAT'S BEEN DONE, BUT WE CAN HAVE IT PROMOTED BY THE CITY SO THAT, SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE ONE PERSON TRYING TO PROMOTE IT, BUT THE CITY IS PROMOTING IT. AND WE COULD CHANGE VENUES OR WE COULD DO A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS. THUS FAR, I'VE DONE DIFFERENT VENUES AROUND THE CITY THAT HAVEN'T BEEN CITY FACILITIES, MOSTLY JUST TO LET PEOPLE SEE NEW THINGS, BUT WE COULD DO THEM IN CITY FACILITIES. AND THERE THERE ARE CITY FACILITIES AT EACH LOCATION, 500 OUT OF THE $600 OF THE COST THAT I SPENT WAS VENUE RENTAL. SO IF WE DO IT AT CITY FACILITIES, THAT'D BE 500 LESS. IT WOULD COST US, WHICH WOULD BE $100 ON THAT FRONT. SO. THE OTHER SCENARIOS AND GARLAND WAS BROUGHT UP. I'VE SPENT SOME TIME WITH MAYOR HEDRICK AND SPOKEN ABOUT THIS AND AND IT IS VERY WELL LIKED BY THE COUNCIL MEMBERS. THEY HAVE A SCENARIO WHERE THEY HAVE AN ACTUAL FULL TIME STAFFER IN GARLAND THAT WILL NOT ONLY CREATE COLLATERAL FOR YOU, BUT WILL HELP YOU WITH THE SCHEDULING AND, YOU KNOW, PROMOTION AND ALL THAT SORT OF THING. THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERABLY MORE ROBUST THAN THE CURRENT QUARTERLY TOWN HALL SETUP. SO IF THERE IS A BABY STEP, MAYBE IT'S THAT WE LET THE CITY HANDLE WHAT IT IS THAT I'VE BEEN HANDLING, BUT WE COULD ALSO GO ALL THE WAY TO THE OTHER SIDE, WHICH IS EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER GETS, LET'S SAY,

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TWO OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT THAT YOU HAD MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY. COUNCILMAN CORCORAN.

I'M HAPPY TO LET YOU GO NEXT IF YOU'D LIKE. NO, I JUST I MEAN, THE COMMENT ABOUT TAXPAYER FUNDED REALLY IS IN RELATION TO CITY TIME, RIGHT? I MEAN, PROFESSIONAL STAFF MEMBER MAKING $100,000 OR WHATEVER IT IS. I MEAN, TAKING THE TIME TO CREATE THE SLIDE DECK TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS, TO DO THE FOLLOW UP. YEAH. MULTIPLY THAT TIMES EACH OF US. THAT'S WHERE I'M GETTING AT THAT IT, IT IS A TAXPAYER FUNDED RESOURCE THAT'S BEING USED. YEAH. FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH. AND NOT THAT YOU WERE ASKING ME A QUESTION, BUT JUST SO I CAN CLARIFY ON MY END THERE. THERE IS NO SLIDE DECK ON MY END. THERE'S LITERALLY JUST A, AN APP THAT YOU TURN ON, AND THEN PEOPLE QR CODE SCAN IT AND SUBMIT THEIR QUESTIONS ON THE ONE YOU AND I DID AT UTD.

THE UTD STUDENT GOVERNMENT ACTUALLY CREATED THOSE SLIDES AND RAN THAT WHOLE SHOW. SO THAT'S HOW THE UTD ONE WAS. OKAY. I MEAN, NEVERMIND, THAT'S FINE. I GUESS MY QUESTION IS WHAT ARE YOU. IT'S UP TO US HOW WE WANT TO DO IT. WE CAN DO IT JUST THE WAY I'VE BEEN DOING IT.

AND JUST INSTEAD OF ME DOING IT, WE COULD SAY THAT THE CITY TAKES IT OVER. WE COULD DECIDE HOW MUCH, LIKE WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT AN EMPLOYEE TO BE THERE TO TAKE NOTES OR NOT. THAT'S ALWAYS AN OPTION. WE ALSO CAN HAVE A NOTE TAKER, TAKE NOTES LIKE AN AI NOTE TAKER, AND JUST SUBMIT IT TO CITY FOR VISIBILITY. WE COULD DO A NUMBER OF THOSE DIFFERENT TYPES OF THINGS AS WELL. AND THE ENTIRE LIST OF QUESTIONS ARE RECORDED BY THE APP THAT I WAS USED THAT I USED, SO WE COULD SUBMIT THOSE IF THERE WERE ANY QUESTIONS THAT WE FELT LIKE NEEDED TO GET ANSWERED OR THAT SORT OF THING. SO WE COULD DO IT AS HEAVILY OR AS LESS HEAVY AS WE WANT FROM A CITY PERSPECTIVE. I'M GOING TO MOVE ON TO COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE, AND THEN WE CAN JUST KEEP GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH EVERYBODY. YEAH, I THINK, MAYOR, YOUR PRIOR COMMENT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SORT OF A BABY STEP OR LIKE, LET'S WALK BEFORE WE RUN KIND OF THING. I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE TRYING TO EMULATE WHAT GARLAND DOES RIGHT NOW. IF WE WANT TO DO TOWN HALLS. I THINK THAT WHAT YOU'VE STARTED IS A GOOD WAY TO WADE INTO DOING TOWN HALLS. IT'S VERY, VERY LOW KEY, AND I THINK THAT IT WOULD JUST BE A MATTER OF TRANSITIONING IT. I THINK THAT WE SHOULD FOLLOW THE MODEL THAT YOU CREATED, WHICH IS WE DO ONE PER PLACE. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, FOR THOSE THAT ARE IN AT LARGE SHEETS, YOU EITHER GET AN OPTION TO ATTEND, YOU KNOW, ANY ONE OF THE FOUR OR THE ONE WHERE YOU HAPPEN TO LIVE, YOU COULD, YOU KNOW, ATTEND THOSE. THAT'S, I THINK, HOW YOU HANDLED IT. I DON'T I DON'T SEE WHY WE WOULD CHANGE THAT MODEL OR TRY AND REINVENT THE WHEEL AND DO SOMETHING MORE COMPLICATED OUT OF THE GATE. I THINK LET'S CONSIDER IT A PILOT. LET'S SEE IF IT WORKS. LET'S SEE IF IT DOES REQUIRE TOO MUCH STAFF RESOURCE. YOU KNOW THAT WE NEED TO SORT OF RETHINK THEM OR MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO THEM. BUT I THINK FOR THE FIRST YEAR, I THINK WE FOLLOWED THAT MODEL AND THAT'S GREAT. AND THEN I THINK TO SOME COUNCILMAN CORCORAN'S CONCERNS ABOUT ELECTION SEASON AND THOSE THINGS, I THINK MAYBE WE COULD WORK AROUND THOSE. PERHAPS, YOU KNOW, YOU DO THE FIRST ONE OF THE YEAR IN JANUARY BEFORE THE FILING DEADLINE AND THEN THE NEXT ONE AFTER THE ELECTION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND YOU'RE STILL MEETING THE QUARTERLY ASPECT OF IT. SO I THINK THERE ARE WAYS TO ADDRESS THOSE PARTICULAR CONCERNS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT WE'RE HOPEFULLY AVOIDING THE HEAT OF THE POLITICAL SEASON BY BEING STRATEGIC ABOUT WHEN WE SCHEDULE THEM. BUT I MEAN, THAT THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION IS THAT WE DO THEM BASICALLY ON THE EXACT SAME CADENCE AND VERY LOW LIFT OUT OF THE GATE, SEE HOW THEY GO, SEE IF THEY SERVE THE PURPOSE WE THINK THEY'RE GOING TO ATTEND, IF THEY'RE WELL ATTENDED, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS, AND THEN REASSESS IN A YEAR AFTER WE'VE DONE FOUR OF THEM. YEAH. COUNCIL MEMBER DORIAN, THANK YOU. YEAH. A COUPLE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE.

ONE WAS ABOUT IF WE WERE TO MOVE FORWARD AND KEEP THE FOUR FOR PLACES ONE THROUGH FOUR, WHICH THE TWO ARE TWO WILL CALL THREE AT LARGE ATTEND, YOU KNOW, WHICHEVER ONE THEY WANT OR WHICH ONE THAT DOESN'T CREATE A QUORUM, I GUESS. I GUESS THAT NEEDS TO BE DECIDED AS WELL.

BUT I JUST ALSO THE COMMENT WAS MADE ABOUT PUTTING IN A PUBLIC PROPERTY. YOU KNOW, I DID LIKE I THOUGHT THE IDEA OF BRINGING PEOPLE TO DIFFERENT PLACES AND BRINGING EXPOSURE TO THOSE. I THOUGHT THAT WAS A GREAT IDEA. DO I FEEL LIKE THIS IF THE CITY IS GOING TO BE CITY RELATED, DOES IT NEED TO BE IN A PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC BUILDING? I THINK THAT SHOULD BE SOMETHING TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION AND ALSO TO I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE RAMIFICATIONS ARE ON THAT, WHAT THE LEGAL ASPECTS OF THAT ARE AND, AND HOW WE WOULD HANDLE THAT. SO WE WOULD PROBABLY NEED SOME FEEDBACK THERE. AGAIN, I WANT TO PLAY, I WANT TO TRY TO TALK ON BOTH SIDES OF IT SO WE CAN LOOK AT ALL THE DETAILS. BUT, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE A BUDGET HERE. I KNOW THAT RIGHT NOW IT'S ON THE TABLE. IT'S $500. BUT HONESTLY, BY THE TIME YOU, YOU KNOW, DO CREATE A VENUE, WHATEVER THAT VENUE MAY BE, AND IF IT IS A PUBLIC SPACE, POTENTIALLY WE WOULD HAVE TO PAY A RENTAL FEE. BUT THERE'S ALSO TIME COMMITMENT. AND, AND I SAY THIS

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ALL THE TIME, I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS WHILE EVERYBODY'S LISTENING. IT'S RIGHT NOW WITH 120,000 PEOPLE AT THIS VERY GIVEN MOMENT. I'M NOT SAYING A YEAR FROM NOW OR TWO YEARS FROM NOW, THINGS ARE GOING TO CHANGE. BUT LET'S JUST SAY FOR NOW, WE HAVE 120,000 PEOPLE. WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, 14 THAT WOULD CREATE OVER TWO YEARS, 14 TOWN HALL MEETINGS. WE HAVE WE HAVE A STATE OF OUR CITY. WE HAVE 40 HOA MEETINGS, WE HAVE PRESIDENT'S MEETINGS. MOST OF US DO ONE ON ONES FOR COUNCIL. WE'RE DOING VIDEO POSTING RIGHT NOW. I HAVE A EDUCATE ELEVATE SERIES I PUT OUT TO ALL THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND SPEED THAT UP. SO WE'RE DELIVERING SO MUCH INFORMATION ALL THROUGH, YOU KNOW, RICHARDSON TODAY, IMPACT EMAIL BLAST. SO I MEAN, WE'RE DEFINITELY GETTING INFORMATION OUT THERE. AND AGAIN, PLAYING BOTH SIDES HERE TO LOOK AT BOTH SIDES. BUT I THINK AS MUCH AS I LIKE A TOWN HALL MEETING, I'M JUST WONDERING RIGHT NOW IF RICHARDSON IS LARGE ENOUGH AT 120,000 TO START IT NOW. AND WITH ALL THE OTHER INFORMATION, ALL THE OTHER TIME COMMITMENTS THAT THE COUNCIL HAS. AND NOT ONLY THAT, BUT NOW WE'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING A LITTLE BIT OF A BURDEN ON THE CITY STAFF BECAUSE TO JOE, OUR COUNCILMAN COCHRAN'S COMMENT WAS GENERALLY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A BUDGET HERE FOR STAFF. IT IS GOING TO TAKE MORE THAN ONE PERSON TO DEVELOP THIS. AND YES, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE POWERPOINTS AND SOME OTHER THINGS TO GENERATE THAT. SO, I MEAN, I JUST WANT US TO LOOK AT THOSE ISSUES ON THE TOWN HALL. PART OF IT, AS FAR AS THE, YOU KNOW, GOING BACK OVER TO THE FACEBOOK POST, LET'S LET'S STAY ON TOWN HALLS, OKAY? WE'LL GO, WE'LL GO TO FACEBOOK IN A MOMENT. OKAY. SO THAT'S OKAY. ON THE TOWN HALL THING, I MEAN, THOSE ARE SOME COMMENTS. AND THEN THE OTHER COMMENT WAS ON TOWN HALL IS IF WE ARE DOING THAT, ARE ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS GOING TO PLAY A ROLE IN THAT, OR IS IT JUST GOING TO BE A QUORUM? AND I KNOW WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THOSE DETAILS AND HOW WE'RE FORMATTING THAT, BUT WE NEED TO KIND OF LOOK AT THAT AS AN AREA. BUT AGAIN, WE HAVE ANOTHER TIME COMMITMENT THAT WE HAVE TO PUT IN ON OUR SCHEDULES PER QUARTER IN ADDITION TO DELIVERING INFORMATION. AND I'M NOT QUITE SURE HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE AT THE TOWN HALL MEETINGS. I THINK MAYBE 30, 40 MAX. AND HOW MUCH MORE INFORMATION ARE WE GETTING TO THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE IN RICHARDSON? AGAIN, I'M JUST PUTTING IT OUT THERE FOR EVERYBODY TO BE THINKING ABOUT THAT. HOW MUCH HOW MANY MORE PEOPLE ARE WE REACHING AT THIS VERY MOMENT UNTIL WE GET TO BE 200,000 PEOPLE? HOW MUCH TIME COMMITMENT IS THAT GOING TO TAKE? AND AGAIN, IT'S JUST A THOUGHT. I'LL LEAVE IT THERE FOR NOW. OKAY, JUST FOR THE RECORD, I THINK OUR LOWEST ATTENDED ONE WAS 25. OUR AND THE VAST MAJORITY OF THEM, I THINK 75 WAS THE LOWEST ATTENDED AND UP TO ABOUT 125. THAT INCLUDES COMING AND GOING FOR TWO HOURS. OKAY, MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHENRIDER, IS IT APPROPRIATE NOW TO ASK. YES, ON QUARTERLY TOWN HALL? WE'RE DIGGING IN. OKAY, SO MY QUESTION IS, IS WOULD WE HAVE WOULD WOULD IT BE WOULD AN OPTION BE? AND I'M I'M LOOKING SPECIFICALLY TO DON TO, TO HAVE IT OPEN TO ALL SEVEN EACH, EACH OF THEM FOR EVERY ONE OF THE QUARTERLY ONES. IF SOMEONE WANTED TO ATTEND, CAN WE DO THAT? AND CAN IT BE POSTED TO WHERE WE DON'T VIOLATE THE. THE ORDINANCE OR LAW? I GSS I SHOULD SAY SO JUST JUST SO WE UNDERSTAND, BECAUSE I THINK MY NUMBER ONE, I THINK MY MY OVERARCHING CONCERN IS THAT TOWN HALL MEETINGS, I THINK THEY CAN BE VERY EFFECTIVE. I DON'T DISAGREE AT ALL. AND I THINK YOU CAN GET A LOT OF INFORMATION OUT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S THAT IT'S AN EVEN, EVEN KEEL THAT THAT IF IF SOMEONE WANTS TO ATTEND A TOWN HALL MEETING AND PARTICIPATE, THEN THEY'RE GIVEN THAT OPPORTUNITY AND IT'S AND THAT WE WOULD NOT JUST STICK WITH THE IDEA OF TWO OR 2 OR 3 OF US AT A TOWN HALL MEETING. I THINK NOW YOU MAY CHOOSE NOT TO GO. AND THAT'S CERTAINLY YOUR RIGHT. I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU'D BE FORCED TO GO. BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS, DON, AS TO, TO, TO WHAT ARE THE RULES AROUND THAT. SO WE UNDERSTAND THAT.

SURE. YOU'RE RIGHT. IF, IF, IF MORE THAN A QUORUM OR MORE THAN A QUORUM WANTED TO ATTEND A MEETING, WE WOULD JUST HAVE TO POST IT AS A, AS A MEETING LIKE WE DO. NOT THAT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE DO FOR HOA MEETINGS. SOMETIMES OUT OF AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION, I THINK COFFEE WITH THE COUNCIL THAT WILL BE COMING UP IN CANYON CREEK. THAT'LL BE A POSTED MEETING. SO. BUT IF YOU HAVE A QUORUM OR MORE, THEN IT WOULD NEED TO BE A POSTED MEETING. ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD TO THAT? YEAH, YEAH. I MEAN, I SORT OF SEE THE TOWN HALL MEETING MORE IN MY MIND. I SEE IT MORE LIKE THE COFFEE WITH COUNCIL THAT WE DO WITH WITH CANYON CREEK. ALL SEVEN OF US ARE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE THERE, INTERACT WITH CITIZENS. THEN IT KEEPS IT ON A VERY EVEN PLAYING FIELD. I DO THINK I THINK WE JUST OUGHT TO HAVE THE THE BLACKOUT PERIOD, IF YOU WILL. I DO AGREE WITH WITH WITH COUNCILWOMAN JUSTICE'S THOUGHTS OF DO IT EARLY IN JANUARY AND

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THEN BE WHAT, LATE IN MAY OR THAT'S STILL HIT US IN A QUARTERLY. YEAH, THAT WOULD WORK IF WE DID IT LATE IN MAY OR EARLY JUNE. JUST HAVE THAT BLACKOUT PERIOD. SO NO ONE COMES BACK AND SAYS, WELL, YOU KNOW, I WAS I WAS RUNNING AGAINST AN INCUMBENT AND THEY HAD ONE MORE OPPORTUNITY TO GET IN FRONT OF THE THE POPULATION. SO I THINK THAT IS I THINK THAT IS AN IMPORTANT DEMARCATION THAT WE WOULD HAVE AS A PART OF THIS. SO. PERSONALLY, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT AS IF IF SOMEONE WANTS TO ATTEND THE TOWN HALL MEETING AS A COUNCIL PERSON, THAT YOU WOULD NOT BE LIMITED. YOU WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND. AND WHETHER THAT'S ALL SEVEN, 6 OR 5 OR WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE, THAT WOULD BE MY THAT WOULD BE MY PREFERENCE.

ALL RIGHT. I SEE A BUNCH OF LIGHTS LIT UP ON A FEW LESS ON THAT END. DEFINITELY. WHATEVER YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT, WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT WOULD BE GREAT TO START GETTING SOME CLARITY FROM EACH PERSON ON, YOU KNOW, WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT SEVEN PEOPLE AT EVERY ONE OF THE FOUR TOWN HALLS THAT MAY OR MAY NOT EXACERBATE THE ONE OF THE CONCERNS BROUGHT EARLIER, WHICH IS, IS THIS GOING TO ADD A BUNCH TO YOUR SCHEDULE? ONE SCENARIO HAS YOU ADDING ONE MEETING TO YOUR SCHEDULE A YEAR VERSUS FOUR. IT ALSO, YOU MIGHT WANT TO THINK ABOUT THE AUDIENCE EXPERIENCE WHEN IT'S 2 OR 3. THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A DECENT AMOUNT OF QUESTIONS TO BE ASKED AND ANSWERED. WE DO HAVE A TENDENCY, WHEN IT'S ALL SEVEN OF US ON A STAGE, TO EACH WANT TO ANSWER EVERY SINGLE QUESTION, WHICH SOMETIMES MAY TAKE THAT MUCH LONGER AND MEAN THAT WE GET TO THAT MANY LESS QUESTIONS IN TWO HOURS. JUST STUFF TO CONSIDER.

BUT LET'S GO TO YOU, COUNCILMEMBER SERAFINI. NEXT. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WELL, I MEAN, REMEMBER THAT HAVING MORE MEETING DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT'S GOING TO BE MORE COMMUNICATION, MORE INFORMATION OUT. SO YOU CAN HAVE LOTS OF MEETINGS, BUT SAME GROUP OF PEOPLE WOULD BE SHOWING UP, SAME INFORMATION, BUT MY, MY COMMENTS, YOU KNOW, IF WE DO THIS TOWN HALL MEETINGS, DEFINITELY WE CAN THINK ABOUT DOING THAT AS A PILOT PROGRAM, SEE HOW EFFECTIVE AND ADJUST FROM THERE. AND, YOU KNOW, OUR CITY IS ABOUT AT LARGE. SO EVERYONE VOTE FOR EVERYBODY. SO, YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH AND AT SAME TIME, EACH COUNCIL MEMBER, THEY COULD HAVE THEIR OWN TOWN HALL MEETINGS MOVING FORWARD. NOBODY'S GOING TO HOLD FOR THAT.

SO THERE'S DIFFERENT THINGS. BUT FOR CITY SPONSORED PROGRAM, THIS IS MAINLY GIVING OUT THE INFORMATION, ENGAGING THEM, WHAT CITY IS DOING, WHAT WE ARE DOING. SO I THINK THAT THOSE AGENDA NEED TO BE STRICTLY ABOUT THOSE, NOT A PLATFORM FOR DEBATE, DEBATING THE POLICY, DEBATING WHO IS BETTER CANDIDATE, THE OTHERS, INDIVIDUAL VISION MISSION.

THOSE COULD BE THOSE NEED TO BE DELIVERED CAREFULLY, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT WAY. BUT AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO EVEN DRAW THE LINE INTO THOSE TOPICS BECAUSE SOMETIMES THOSE INVOLVE THE CITY. I LOVE TO SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE PARK THAT I TALKED ABOUT 75. SO THOSE ARE NOT MY, YOU KNOW, AGENDA FOR REELECTION NEXT YEAR. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE WE ALREADY HAVE MEETINGS, YOU KNOW, SIMILAR TO THAT CANYON CREEK HOA THAT WE DO AND PROJECT SPECIFIC INFORMATION, CITY STAFF CAN DELIVER MORE EFFECTIVE AND BETTER WAY THAN THE COUNCIL MEMBERS BECAUSE WHAT'S GOING ON IN CUSTER ROAD, WHAT'S GOING ON? GREENVILLE FUTURE PROJECTS SCHEDULE TIME WISE, YOU KNOW, I CAN LOOK AT THAT AND TRY TO MEMORIZE. BUT CITY, YOU KNOW, DON KNOWS ABOUT OUR YOU KNOW, CIP PROJECTS MANAGER KNOWS ABOUT THOSE PROJECTS. SO GIVING THOSE PROJECTS OUT, YOU KNOW, TO THOSE GROUP WOULD BE MORE EFFECTIVE FROM THE CITY STAFF.

AND OF COURSE, MAYBE THE TOWN HALL MEETING WILL BRING DIFFERENT GROUP OF PEOPLE BECAUSE OF COURSE, WE TALK TO THE HOA PRESIDENTS, NEIGHBORHOOD PRESIDENTS. BUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY GO BACK, THEY HAVE TO COMMUNICATE WITH THEIR OWN GROUP. BUT WITH THE TOWN HALL, YOU CAN BRING THOSE INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS TO THE TOWN MEETINGS. SO THAT'S THAT'S SOMETHING DEFINITELY. I SEE THAT THERE IS SOME BENEFIT OF IT, BUT WE HAVE TO MONITOR THOSE. AND I THINK WE NEED TO VERY WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL HOW WE PUT THE AGENDA. AND AND, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, THERE NEED TO BE, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL MEMBERS SHOULD HAVE THEIR CHOICE WHETHER THEY WANT TO BE THERE OR NOT. BUT I THINK EVERYONE SHOULD, SHOULD BE, SHOULD BE ABLE TO GO THERE AS A, YOU KNOW, NOT NECESSARILY ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL BE, YOU KNOW, ANSWERING THE QUESTION BECAUSE MOST OF THE QUESTION PROBABLY WOULD BE COMING TOWARDS THE STUFF ABOUT THE CITY'S DIFFERENT PROJECT STATUS AND WHAT'S GOING ON, YOU KNOW,

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THOSE KIND OF THINGS. SO THOSE ARE JUST FOR NOW. I HAVE SOME COMMENTS. VERY WELL. COUNCIL MEMBER CORCORAN. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE THE ORIGINAL THOUGHT BEHIND HOW THEY DO IT IN GARLAND AND THE ORIGINAL THOUGHT BEHIND HAVING AN AGENDA IN ADVANCE IS THAT IT DOES FOR THE VERY SPECIFIC LOCATION IT'S GOING TO BE IN, IT DOES ALLOW STAFF TO CREATE VERY DETD, YOU KNOW, DETAILED PROPOSALS, KNOW, HEY, THIS, THIS PROJECT ENGINEER OR THESE PEOPLE NEED TO BE THERE IF IT'S GOING TO STAY HIGH LEVEL, JUST DON REAL QUICK. I MEAN, IF HYPOTHETICALLY, WE DID ALL OF OUR TOWN HALLS AND THEY WERE ALL SORT OF OPEN AGENDA, HIGH LEVEL, WHAT LEVEL? I MEAN, AND WE HAD CITY STAFF THAT WERE THERE. I MEAN, WOULD IT BE SOMEONE FROM IT HAS TO BE SOMEONE FROM YOUR OFFICE, PRESUMABLY. RIGHT. OR YOU YOURSELF. YEAH, IT WOULD BE A STAFF PERSON. OKAY, OKAY. AND THAT'S JUST FOR REFERENCE. I MEAN, IT'S NOT REALLY A PRO OR AGAINST. IT'S YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT I THINK I'M LEANING TOWARDS IF IT'S IF THE REST OF THE COUNCIL IS LEANING TOWARDS, HEY, OPEN AGENDA, COME AND ASK ANY QUESTION. I'M REALLY LEANING TOWARDS HAVING SORT OF WHAT MAYOR PRO TEM IS SAYING, HAVING ALL SEVEN OF US THERE ONLY HAVING FOUR A YEAR. AND YOU KNOW, IF AND YOU KNOW IT THAT WAY TOO, I MEAN, THE REAL SORT OF UPFRONT BURDEN ON STAFF'S TIME. AND JUST TO CLARIFY TOO, IT'S NOT MY CONCERN ISN'T ABOUT MY SCHEDULE, RIGHT? IT'S ABOUT ALL OF OUR IT'S ABOUT CITY STAFF'S TIME, RIGHT. AND NOT FUTURE COUNCIL MEMBERS SCHEDULES. IT'S STAFF TIME. SO WITH THAT SAID, IF REALLY THE BURDEN IS JUST GETTING SEVEN PEOPLE ALIGNED ON A CALENDAR, SCHEDULING IT SOMEWHERE, I MEAN, THAT'S AND THEN FOLLOWING UP ON QUESTIONS AFTER. THAT'S REALLY NOT AS MUCH TIME AS DOING ALL THE PREP AHEAD OF TIME FOR EVERY SINGLE PERSON INDIVIDUALLY. THAT REALLY SOLVES THAT CONCERN OF MINE. IF THAT'S THE FORMAT WE'RE LEANING TOWARDS. COUNCIL MEMBER BURDETTE. THANKS, MAYOR. YES, I'M FALLING IN LINE. I THINK WITH WITH A LOT OF THE OPINIONS EXPRESSED. I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF MY BIGGEST CONCERNS WAS EQUAL AIRTIME OPPORTUNITY, BASICALLY. AND IF WE APPROACH IT WITH AT LEAST ALL SEVEN ARE INVITED, THEN EVERYONE HAS AN OPPORTUNITY. IF THEY FEEL LIKE THEY NEED TO BE, YOU KNOW, DIRECTLY INTERACTING WITH THE, WITH RESIDENTS AND WHICHEVER QUADRANT WE'RE IN, CERTAINLY ALSO, WE, WE DO ALL REPRESENT THE ENTIRE CITY, NOT ONE THROUGH FOUR. WE HAVE OUR, YOU KNOW, REQUIREMENT WHERE WE NEED TO LIVE, BUT WE'RE ALL REPRESENTING ALL SEVEN. SO I WOULDN'T WANT TO BE PIGEONHOLED TO ONLY A TOWN HALL AND DISTRICT THREE. SO YEAH, SO FOR BOTH OF THOSE REASONS, I, IF WE APPROACH IT AS ALL SEVEN ARE INVITED, AND IF YOU CAN MAKE IT AND HAVE TIME ON YOUR CALENDAR, THEN THEN GREAT, YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE THERE. YEAH, I'M IN FAVOR OF THAT. AND YEAH, MINIMIZING STAFF HOURS BY KEEPING IT KIND OF CONSISTENT AND HIGH LEVEL. YEAH, I'M IN FAVOR. COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE.

I MEAN, I CAN GET ON BOARD WITH ALL SEVEN. I THINK IT'S UNWIELDY. AND FOR SOME OF THE REASONS YOU SAID, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL GOING TO ANSWER ONE QUESTION LIKE, IS THAT IS THAT REALLY WORTH THE TIME? I MEAN, IF THAT'S WHAT THE REST OF THE COUNCIL WANTS, IN ORDER FOR US TO HAVE QUARTERLY TOWN HALLS, THEN I CAN GET ON BOARD WITH THAT. BUT I THINK I'M NOT PERSONALLY WORRIED ABOUT SORT OF HAVING ALL THAT EXTRA EXPOSURE. I THINK THE IDEA IS THAT WE JUST GO OUT AND WE INTERACT WITH RESIDENTS AND ANSWER QUESTIONS. YOU KNOW, THE ONE THAT I ATTENDED THERE WERE, NOT SURPRISINGLY, IN DISTRICT TWO, A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT DRONES THAT WERE REALLY RELEVANT TO PEOPLE WHO WERE LIVING IN THAT THAT AREA. AND I THINK THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF A TOWN HALL, IS TO FIGURE OUT WHAT ISSUES ARE IMPORTANT TO THOSE PEOPLE LIVING IN THAT AREA. BUT AGAIN, IF THE MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL WANTS TO DO THAT FORMAT, I CAN GET ON BOARD WITH IT. AS A PILOT, WE CAN SEE IF IT WORKS AND IF WE ALL FEEL LIKE WE, YOU KNOW, GOT WHAT WE WANTED OUT OF IT BY BEING ABLE TO ANSWER ONE QUESTION AT A TOWN HALL, THEN SO BE IT. YOU KNOW, I MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO FOLLOW THE MODEL THAT YOU'VE ALREADY SET UP. BUT AGAIN, IF IT ANS IF IT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HAVING A TOWN HALL OR NOT, I'LL GET ON BOARD WITH, WITH ALL SEVEN OF US ATTENDING ALL OF THEM. AND THEN WITH RESPECT TO STAFF TIME, I MEAN, STAFF CURRENTLY KEEPS A RUNNING LIST.

IF WE GO TO AN AA MEETING, FOR EXAMPLE, IN A PARTICULAR AREA, THEY HAVE A LIST OF THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON THAT THEY PROVIDE US SO THAT WE'RE EDUCATED ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THAT AREA.

I'M PRETTY SURE THEY COULD JUST COMBINE THAT FOR WHATEVER PLACE WE HAPPEN TO BE IN, SO THAT WE COULD STUDY UP AHEAD OF TIME. I DON'T I DON'T ENVISION IT BEING A HUGE LIFT BECAUSE THAT WORK IS ALREADY BEING DONE. AND IT'S JUST A MATTER OF SORT OF COLLATING IT INTO ONE DOCUMENT VERSUS SORT OF A NEIGHBORHOOD SPECIFIC DOCUMENT. SO AGAIN, OPEN ISSUES, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. I DON'T THINK IT'S A SUPER BIG BURDEN ON, ON STAFF. IF WE IF WE FOLLOW THAT MODEL VERSUS THE ONE YOU'RE SUGGESTING, YOU KNOW, SUGGESTING COULD BE A MODEL, WHICH IS TO HAVE POWERPOINTS AND ISSUE SPECIFIC AND ALL THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. SO I

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MEAN, THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS, I THINK WHERE SORT OF POLITICKING THIS TO DEATH. BUT, YOU KNOW, IF THAT'S WHAT FOLKS WANT TO DO, THEN AND IT MEANS WE'LL HAVE QUARTERLY TOWN HALLS IF ALL SEVEN OF US CAN SHOW UP AND THEN I'LL BACK THEM. JUST YEAH, THE CLARIFICATION HERE IS THE TOWN HALLS ARE HAPPENING. SO LET'S MAKE THAT CLEAR, RIGHT? I MEAN, IF WE SAY WE DON'T WANT TO DO THIS, THAT'S COOL. THEY'RE STILL GOING TO HAPPEN. I MEAN, THERE'S ALREADY ONE BEING SCHEDULED FOR NOVEMBER. THEY'LL ALREADY BE ONE SCHEDULED FOR JANUARY. SO NOTHING'S GETTING STOPPED BY SAYING NO. IF WE SAY NO, THE QUESTION THE ONLY THING THAT WE GET TO DECIDE HERE IS WHETHER WE WANT THIS TO BE SOMETHING THAT THE MAYOR SHOULD TRY AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO SCHEDULE WITH DANIEL AND WITH JOE. HOW DO WE MAKE THIS WORK ON YOUR CALENDAR? AND IMAGINE, BY THE WAY, NOW WE'RE ASKING SOMEONE TO TRY AND COORDINATE SEVEN SCHEDULES VERSUS JUST THE 2 TO 3 PEOPLE SCHEDULES, WHICH IS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT BEAST AND MUCH MORE UNWIELDY. THE OTHER THING IS, AT THE LAST TOWN HALL THAT I HAD, I WAS TRYING TO LOOK UP WHAT MY STAT WAS, AND I CAN'T REMEMBER EXACTLY THE NUMBER, BUT IT WAS EITHER 50 OR 7070 QUESTIONS ANSWERED. I'M JUST GOING TO ASK YOU, IS THE GOAL FOR US ALL TO BE SITTING IN FRONT OF EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE TOWN HALLS? OR IS THE GOAL TO ALLOW RESIDENTS TO BE ABLE TO ASK THE QUESTIONS THAT ARE NEAR AND DEAR TO THEIR HEART, AND THEM TO ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO GET AN ANSWER FROM SOMEONE? AND IF THAT SOMEONE HAPPENS TO BE ON ROTATION, THEN IT ENDS UP BEING ON ROTATION, BUT AT LEAST THEY GET THEIR QUESTIONS ANSWERED. WE HAVE ALL SEVEN OF US, I CAN PROMISE YOU THAT. COFFEE WITH THE COUNCIL AT CANYON CREEK. WE'RE THERE FOR A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF TIME, AND THE NUMBER WE WILL NOT GET TO 50 QUESTIONS WHEN WE GO TO COFFEE WITH THE COUNCIL. RIGHT. WE MIGHT GET TO TEN. WE MIGHT GET TO 12, I DON'T KNOW.

AND I'M NOT COUNTING THE DAWN QUESTIONS, SO I DON'T KNOW WHO WAS NEXT. BUT LET'S GO WITH CURTIS. COUNCIL MEMBER DORIAN, PLEASE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I JUST ABSORBING ALL OF THIS AND, YOU KNOW, KIND OF TRYING TO STAY ON THE LEVEL WITH UNDERSTANDING WHERE WE NEED TO GO WITH THIS RIGHT NOW AT THIS VERY GIVEN MOMENT. AND, YOU KNOW, I WAS I DID LOOK AT VIDEOS ON MOST OF THE TOWN HALL MEETINGS. I NOTICED A LOT OF THE SAME PEOPLE FROM DIFFERENT PLACES ATTENDED MULTIPLE, WHETHER YOU LIVED IN PLACE FIVE WHEN IT CAME OVER TO PLACE THREE OR, OR WHATEVER. BUT I DID NOTICE THERE WAS A LOT OF PEOPLE AND INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE ATTENDING THE TOWN TOWN HALL MEETINGS, WHICH IS NO BIG DEAL. I MEAN, YOU CAN DO THAT.

I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH INFORMATION, HOW MUCH MORE INFORMATION ARE WE GETTING TO, HOW MANY MORE PEOPLE THAT WE DON'T GET THROUGH EMAILS, PHONE CALLS, TEXT MESSAGES, AND ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WE ALREADY DO, ALL OF US INDIVIDUALLY AS WELL AS THE CITY PROVIDES, IN ADDITION TO ALL THE THINGS, ALL THE THINGS WE'VE MENTIONED EARLIER. AGAIN, I'M JUST TRYING TO PLAY THE DEVIL'S ADVOCATE HERE. I'D LIKE THE TOWN HALL MEETINGS. I THINK THEY'RE GREAT. I THINK THE CITY, THE CITY SHOULD HAVE ONE. BUT NOW I'M ONLY QUESTIONING IS NOW THE RIGHT TIME FOR IT? I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO BE THE CITY NEEDS TO GROW A LITTLE FURTHER IN ORDER FOR US TO BE ABLE TO PUT THE TIME AND ENERGY FOR THE STAFF. AGAIN, I'M GOING BACK TO THE POINT. WE JUST CUT 14 POSITIONS AND NOW WE'RE GETTING NOW WE'RE DECIDING TO ADD MORE WORK ON STAFF, AND WE'RE ALREADY CUTTING BACK AS IT IS TO TRY TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN WITH 120. I MEAN, IF WE MAYBE REACH 150, 160, 175, MAYBE THEN THE TOWN HALL MEETINGS WILL MAKE MORE SENSE AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, MANEUVER TO A THROUGH A LARGER AUDIENCE. BUT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I'M NOT SAYING I DON'T LIKE THEM. I THINK THEY'RE A GREAT IDEA. I THINK ALL CITIES, YOU KNOW, SPECIFICALLY SHOULD HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S SIMILAR. BUT I'M JUST QUESTIONING RIGHT NOW IF IT'S THE RIGHT TIME. AND THE OTHER THING TO ADD, I WANT TO THROW OUT AN OPTION HERE. THE IT'S BEEN MENTIONED A COUPLE OPTIONS HERE. ALL SEVEN OF US ATTEND FOUR TIMES A YEAR. YES, THAT'S A LOT. IT'S ALMOST LIKE HAVING COFFEE WITH COUNCILMAN OR EVEN HAVING A REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. SO THE OTHER OPTION, ANOTHER POTENTIAL OPTION IF WE WERE DOING A PILOT PROGRAM IS EACH AREA, THAT INDIVIDUAL THAT'S IN THAT PLACE, MAYBE THAT PERSON RUNS THAT MEETING WITH TWO OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS DOESN'T ALWAYS HAVE TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, EITHER THE MAYOR OR ONE OTHER PERN OR THE SAME PEOPLE IN EVERY SINGLE, YOU KNOW, TOWN HALL. IT COULD, YOU KNOW, BE SPECIFIC TO THE AREA. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO ASK QUESTIONS OR I'M SORRY, THE, THE, THE RESIDENTS AND STAKEHOLDERS ARE GOING TO ASK QUESTIONS THAT ARE BASED GENERALLY IN THAT AREA ANYWAY. AND WE ARE PROVIDED WITH THAT INFORMATION WHEN WE GO TO OUR HOA MEETINGS ANNUALLY. SO AND I AGREE EARLIER THAT WAS SAID THAT WE THAT'S PROBABLY NOT A BIG DEAL TO GATHER THAT DATA, BUT THAT'S ANOTHER OPTION OF LOOKING AT THAT. IF WE DON'T WANT TO DO ALL SEVEN, MAYBE EACH PLACE THAT PERSON, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, PLACE THREE, YOU KNOW, COUNCILWOMAN JUSTICE WOULD, YOU KNOW, LEAD THAT THAT TOWN HALL AND HAVE TWO OTHER I'M SORRY. TWO SORRY, YOU COULD BE THREE ANYWAY, BUT

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I'M JUST THROWING OUT THAT OPTION ALSO. I MEAN, THAT'S JUST ANOTHER SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT AS WE POWER THROUGH SOME OF THESE DETAILS. THANKS. PERFECT. LET'S, WE'LL GO THROUGH THE THREE LIGHTS THAT ARE ON AND THEN PROBABLY WHAT WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND DO. I KNOW WE'RE NOT VOTING PER SE, BUT WHAT WE PROBABLY OUGHT TO DO IS JUST GIVE A YES OR NO THAT YOU ARE IN FAVOR OF, YOU KNOW, MOVING FORWARD. I THINK ULTIMATELY THIS IS GOING TO GO ONE OF TWO DIRECTIONS OR NEITHER, WHICH IS FINE, BECAUSE I CAN CONTINUE TO DO IT THE WAY I'VE BEEN DOING IT. FIRST DIRECTION IS WE JUST PILOT THIS, PILOT IT WITH THE CITY, BASICALLY DOING THE MANAGEMENT OF THE CALENDARS AND, AND THE COORDINATION OF THE PLACE. AND WE CAN DO IT WITH NO STAFFERS, WITH NO PREP FOR THE MEETINGS, WHICH IS EXACTLY THE WAY WE'VE BEEN DOING IT SO FAR FOR SIX TOWN HALLS. SO THAT WOULD BE, I THINK, ONE SCENARIO THAT WE OUGHT TO PROBABLY JUST GET VOICES ON. AND THEN THE SECOND SCENARIO IS THAT WE TRY TO MAKE EVERY ONE OF THESE A COFFEE WITH THE COUNCIL. BUT AGAIN, PLEASE, I'M JUST ASKING, THINK ABOUT WHAT IT WILL BE LIKE TO TRY AND SCHEDULE ALL SEVEN OF US ALL AT THE SAME TIME AVAILABLE, BECAUSE IT'LL BE A NIGHTMARE AND IT'LL TAKE THAT MUCH MORE WORK FOR THE FOR THE PERSON, JENNY, OR ANYONE ELSE TO TRY AND SCHEDULE THAT FOR US. SO WE'LL GO TO YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM, THEN WE'LL GO TO COUNCILMEMBER FINE, THEN COUNCILMEMBER CORCORAN. AND ONCE WE'RE DONE WITH THAT, I'D LOVE TO JUST GO UP AND DOWN AND START GETTING YESES OR NO'S SO WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE SECOND ITEM. YES, MAYOR PRO TEM, THANK YOU. SO MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE THAT WE FOLLOW THE FORMAT THAT'S CURRENTLY DONE, WHICH IS THERE'S NO THERE'S NO POWERPOINT, THERE'S NO PRESENTATION PUT TOGETHER, NOTHING ALONG THOSE LINES. IT'S QR CODE. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE CAN ANSWER A QUESTION. I THINK I THINK ALL SEVEN OF US SHOULD BE INVITED. WE CAN. I MEAN, JENNY CAN CAN FIGURE OUT A A A THE BEST DATE POSSIBLE. WE ALREADY HAVE MEETINGS. WE HAVE OTHER THINGS. I MEAN, HOA THE PRESIDENT'S MEETING, ALL SEVEN OF US DON'T 100% MAKE EVERY ONE OF THOSE MEETINGS. IF WE CAN'T MAKE IT, WE CAN'T MAKE IT.

THAT'S JUST THE WAY THE CALENDARS WORK. I THINK THAT WE CAN MANAGE OURSELVES. I THINK WE CAN, WE COULD, WE CAN HAVE I'LL CALL IT GROUND RULES OF THE TOWN HALL MEETING THAT SAYS NO MORE THAN TWO OF US ANSWER ANY ANY QUESTIONS THAT'S PRESENTED SO THAT ALL SEVEN OF US DON'T TRY TO ANSWER EVERY QUESTION. I THINK YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, ASSUMING THAT WE THAT ALL SEVEN, SEVEN OF US ARE INVITED AND YOU'RE IF I CAN USE THE TERM MODERATING THE TOWN HALL MAYOR, YOU CAN SIMPLY SAY, AND YOU CAN KIND OF KEEP A RUNNING TRACK IN YOUR HEAD OF. OKAY, I GAVE THAT QUESTION TO, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL MEMBER CORCORAN AND, AND DORIAN. OKAY. THE NEXT ONE I'LL GIVE TO COUNCILWOMAN JUSTICE. I MEAN, YOU CAN MODERATE THAT AND KEEP IT, YOU KNOW, AND WE JUST HAVE TO BE SELF-DISCIPLINED, IF YOU WILL, NOT TO NOT ALL SEVEN OF US TRY TO ANSWER EVERY QUESTION. SO I THINK IT CAN BE DONE IN A NON NON WHAT WOULD THAT BE IN A APPROPRIATE PROFESSIONAL WAY. BUT I THINK WE COULD I THINK WE SHOULD TRY IT. I THINK WE SHOULD PILOT IT HOWEVER YOU WANT TO SAY THAT AND TRY IT FOR WHENEVER THE NEXT MEETING COMING UP. I THINK YOU SAID IT'S NOVEMBER SO I WOULD I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF OF PILOT IN IN NOVEMBER. IN A IN A CITY SPACE, IF YOU WILL. JENNY COMES UP WITH THE DATE. SHE PUTS IT OUT ANY, ANY, ANY AND OR ALL SEVEN OF US CAN ATTEND. YOU WOULD MODERATE. WE KEEP IT AS OPEN FORMAT. WE WOULD NOT EXPECT ANY ANY POWERPOINT, ANYTHING FROM CITY STAFF. IT WOULD JUST BE QUESTIONS AS THE. WHOEVER SHOWS UP TO THE MEETING WANTS TO ASK. AND YOU WOULD MODERATE AND KEEP IT TO ONLY TWO OF US ANSWER ANY QUESTION THAT IS OUT THERE. THAT WOULD BE MY. IF I CAN KIND OF WRAP THAT UP, I THINK I HIT ALL THE POINTS. SO THAT WOULD BE MY MY SUGGESTION. PERFECT. THE ONLY CLARIFICATION I'LL MAKE IS WE'LL, WE'LL PROBABLY MAKE THAT THE FIRST 1ST JANUARY. I'VE ALREADY GOT THE NOVEMBER 1ST PRETTY MUCH SCHEDULED AND UTD IT'S HAPPENING AT UTD BUT THAT'S FINE. YEAH. NO THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE COUNCILMEMBER.

THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. YEAH I MEAN I THINK COUNCIL I MEAN MAYOR PRO TEM HAD HAS A PRETTY GOOD SUGGESTION. AND YOU KNOW HAVING PRE AGENDA POWERPOINT YOU KNOW THAT HAS ONE APPEAL TO THE COMMUNITY AND THEN THE, YOU KNOW, OPEN AGENDA AND YOU KNOW, ABILITY TO ASK QUESTION, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THEY WANT TO, THERE'S DIFFERENT THINGS I THINK THAT WILL PROBABLY ENCOURAGE MORE TO JOIN RATHER THAN COME AND SEE AND SPECIFIC PRESENTATION, WHICH MIGHT BE

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EASIER TO MAINTAIN, BUT IT WILL TAKE CITIES SOME OF THE STOPS TIME FOR THAT. BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, STARTING THAT AS A PILOT PROGRAM AND OF COURSE, MAY OR YOU C OR ANYONE, YOU CAN HAVE YOUR TOWN HALL MEETINGS ANYTIME. THAT'S TOTALLY NOBODY'S I DON'T THINK COUNCIL CAN REALLY VOTE ON THOSE KIND OF THINGS. PERSONAL CHOICE BESIDES THIS QUARTERLY OR WHATEVER WE DO, YOU COULD HAVE ANOTHER ONE YOURSELF. SO THAT'S ABSOLUTELY YOU KNOW, ANYONE CAN DO IT. BUT I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY A GOOD FORMAT. WE CAN MY OPINION WOULD BE, YES, WE CAN START SOMETHING WITH A PILOT PROGRAM AND, AND SIMILAR FORMAT. NOT NECESSARILY ALL THE, YOU KNOW, TWO PERSON DOESN'T REALLY HAVE TO ANSWER THE QUESTION. EVEN JUST ONE PERSON COULD ANSWER THE QUESTION. THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE DEBATE. SO I THINK IF WE CAN KEEP THOSE THINGS AND NOT THOSE TOWN HALL MEETINGS, IF WE DON'T MAKE THOSE THINGS AS A CAMPAIGN STOP, THAT PROBABLY BETTER THINGS. BUT THAT WOULD BE TRICKY TO DO. I THINK I WOULD, I WOULD GO AND SEE SOMETHING.

WE'LL SEE THAT HOW REALLY WORKS. COUNCILMEMBER CORCORAN YEAH, AND I WANT TO CLARIFY, I MEAN, I HAD A VERY POSITIVE EXPERIENCE AT OUR TOWN HALL, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'VE BEEN DOING AS A PROOF OF CONCEPT CONCEPT. I JUST DO THINK IT'S A BIG DIFFERENCE USING A PAID CITY STAFFER WHO'S NOT THEIR FULL TIME JOB TO SCHEDULE THESE. AND IT COMES WITH ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATIONS. LIKE COUNCILMEMBER CHAMBLISS SAID, THERE'S OTHER THERE'S A LOT MORE FLEXIBILITY WHEN YOU'RE JUST DOING IT ON YOUR OWN. BUT I DO WANT TO TAKE SOME OF THE BURDEN OFF YOU TRYING TO SCHEDULE ALL THESE FOR US. AND, YOU KNOW, YOU THINK IT'S. I DON'T WANT YOU TO FEEL LIKE YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, OVERBURDENED, TRYING TO DO US A FAVOR, SO TO SPEAK. BUT, YOU KNOW, I GUESS I'M WITH MAYOR PRO TEM STILL ON THIS. I MEAN, I DON'T THINK THESE HAVE TO REPLACE EVERYTHING YOU'RE TRYING TO DO, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT TAKES SOME OF THE BURDEN OFF. AND IF IT'S NOT REALLY WORKING WELL OR IT COULD BE BETTER. I MEAN, NEXT YEAR OR YEAR AFTER, Y'ALL CAN JUST REWORK THEM, RIGHT? YEAH. AND EXPAND IT. I MEAN, IT'S A GOOD PILOT PROGRAM. YEP. ALL RIGHT. SO I KNOW YOUR LIGHT'S ON, BUT WHAT I WANT TO DO IS, IS LET'S JUST KIND OF, UNLESS YOU HAVE SOMETHING NEW TO, TO TALK ABOUT, I'M HAPPY TO NOT NECESSARILY NEW. I JUST, I WANTED TO KIND OF AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN. SO THEN, SO THEN IF YOU'RE AGREEING, WE CAN, WHAT WE CAN DO IS MAYBE WE CAN START WITH COUNCILMAN AND MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCH AND WRITERS SUGGESTION. HIS SUGGESTION WAS ALL SEVEN WOULD BE INVITED. WE WOULD START THEM, THOSE ONES IN JANUARY. HYPOTHETICALLY, THEY WOULD BE AT A CITY FACILITY. WE WOULD NOT REQUIRE ANY ADDITIONAL STAFF TO BE THERE. WE'D USE THE EXACT SAME FORMAT AS WE'VE BEEN USING. WE WOULD JUST I WOULD ROTATE WHO ANSWERS THE QUESTIONS, WHICH I'M TOTALLY COOL DOING. AS A MATTER OF FACT, I THINK WHEN IT WAS THE THREE OF US, THAT'S WHAT I DID WAS I JUST LET YOU GUYS ANSWER THE QUESTIONS I DIDN'T NEED TO ANSWER THE VAST MAJORITY OF THEM. SO I THINK YOU SINCE YOU SUGGESTED IT, YOU'RE FINE WITH IT. YOU YOU DO OR DON'T LIKE THAT IDEA. YOU CAN COMMENT IF YOU'D LIKE TO. COUNCILMEMBER. YEAH, JUST I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT AT THIS TIME, YOU KNOW, NOT TO HAVE TO USE ANY CITY STAFF, ALTHOUGH IT WOULD IT WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE TO HAVE SOMEONE THERE BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE IF WE COULD HAVE ANSWER EVERY QUESTION OR, OR I'M ONE OF US. I'M SURE WE'LL BE ABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTION THAT COMES TOWARD US. I CAN TELL YOU THERE ARE A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO ANSWER, AND WHAT I'VE BEEN ABLE TO SAY IS THESE MAGICAL WORDS. I'M NOT SURE WE'LL GET BACK WITH YOU, WHICH IS A TOTALLY FINE ANSWER. AND NO ONE HAS HAS ATTACKED ME FOR SAYING THAT YET. NO, I AGREE, YES, BUT I WOULD BE OPEN TO THAT AS A PILOT. OKAY. UNDER THOSE CONDITIONS, COUNCILMEMBER JUSTICE FINE. COUNCILMEMBER BURDETTE, I AGREE. OKAY.

COUNCILMEMBER CORCORAN, YOU ARE FINE, COUNCILMEMBER. FINE. ALL RIGHT. SO WHAT WE'LL DO IS IN JANUARY, WE'LL START WITH THE ATTEMPT OF OUR BEST ATTEMPT AT GETTING SEVEN PEOPLE TOGETHER ON A QUARTERLY BASIS STARTING EARLY JANUARY, THE FIRST TWO WEEKS OF JANUARY, BEFORE THE JANUARY 15TH, WHICH PROBABLY MEANS WE'LL START SCHEDULING AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. SO THIS NEXT QUARTERLY TOWN HALL WILL BE THE LAST ONE THAT WE DO, KIND OF WITH JUST THE SMALLER FORMAT. I'LL BE HAPPY TO SHARE THAT THAT DATE ONCE ITS FINAL FINAL WITH EVERYBODY. AND IF EVERYONE WANTS TO JOIN, WE'LL JUST MAKE SURE YOU HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO POST THAT IN ADVANCE.

LEVEL OF CITY COORDINATION WILL JUST BE ON THE SCHEDULING, AND WE MAY BRING BACK SOME QUESTIONS THAT WERE UNANSWERED AT THE END OF IT. AND I THINK THAT'S IT. DOES THAT ANSWER THAT ANSWERS ALL YOUR THREE QUESTIONS? EVERYBODY COOL WITH THAT? ALL RIGHT. LET'S MOVE ON TO COUNCIL MEETING VIDEO UPDATES. SO THE ORIGINAL SUGGESTION AND ONE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE BROUGHT BROUGHT TO ME AS WELL. I THINK CITY MANAGER AND I HAD SPOKEN ABOUT IT EARLY ON WHEN I FIRST NOTICED THAT THEY WERE DOING THEM, WAS THESE RESD VIDEOS.

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THEY'RE BASICLY CURATED AND WRITTEN UP BY OUR ISD STAFF, I BELIEVE. AND THEN THE PERSON READS OFF THE TELEPROMPTER ON THIS PARTICULAR ONE. MY $0.02 WOULD BE SINCE IT IS MONTHLY, I'M VERY HAPPY NOT TO BE ONE OF THE PEOPLE BEING RECORDED. SO THAT WOULD MEAN THAT THE SIX COUNCIL MEMBERS WOULD GET RECORDED TWICE A YEAR, BECAUSE THERE'S 12 MONTHS IN A YEAR AND THERE'S SIX OF YOU ALL. SO THAT'S HOW WE WOULD DO IT. MORE THAN LIKELY WE WOULD HAVE TO LEAN ON GREG OR SOMEBODY ON THE TEAM TO COME UP WITH A SCRIPT AND A TIME FRAME LIKE, HEY, THESE SHOULDN'T BE LONGER THAN 3 MINUTES OR 5 MINUTES OR WHATEVER THE NUMBER IS. AND THEN PERHAPS THERE COULD BE SOME LIGHT EDITING BY THE PERSON WHO IS READING IT, EITHER FOR READABILITY OR FOR SOME SLIGHT CHANGE, BUT KEEPING IT FACTUAL AND NOT OPINION.

THAT IS A SCENARIO THAT WE COULD MAYBE JUST GO DOWN. IF SOMEONE WANTS SOMETHING DRAMATICALLY DIFFERENT THAN THAT, WE COULD TALK ABOUT IT. BUT OTHERWISE I'D LOVE TO JUST GO DOWN THE WAY. AND ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT I JUST SAID IN TERMS OF THE WAY TO DO THIS FORMAT? ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL MEMBER GRIFFIN, ARE YOU IN FAVOR OF DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT? I'D LIKE TO HEAR YOUR OPINION ON THIS ONE, BUT THIS. YOU KNOW HOW MUCH. SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MONTHLY. ONCE A MONTH, ONCE ONCE A MONTH, ONE VIDEO A MONTH THAT WILL COVER ALL FOUR MEETINGS. THEY WOULD FIND A WAY TO BOIL DOWN FOUR MEETINGS INTO THAT ONE VIDEO.

YES. AND HOW LONG DO YOU THINK THE VIDEO WOULD BE YOUR VISION THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? LIKE I SAID EARLIER, SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 3 AND 5 MINUTES OR WHATEVER THE OPTIMAL AMOUNT OF TIME THAT'S BEST FOR CONSUMPTION BY PEOPLE. SO IT'LL BE RELATIVELY SHORT. THINK ABOUT OUR STATE OF THE CITY, THAT SORT OF THING. BUT ON A MONTHLY VERSION, IT'S ABOUT FIVE MINUTES TOTAL VIDEO LENGTH 3 TO 5 MINUTES, SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT. YES. AND SOMEONE WOULD BE READING OFF A TELEPROMPTER FOR THAT FIVE MINUTE PERIOD. AGAIN, WE CAN TALK THIS THING AS LIKE A TAKE THAT AS A PILOT PROGRAM AND SURE BUILT ON IT. OKAY. ARE YOU SO YOU'RE IN FAVOR OF THAT? I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER CORCORAN. YEAH. KEEP IT SHORT, SNAPPY, FACTUAL ON A MONTHLY CADENCE. AND I'M GOOD. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER BURDETTE.

YEAH. I THINK WE CAN GET BEHIND THIS. I'M CURIOUS. WHAT WHAT VECTOR WE DO DELIVER THOSE. ARE THEY GOING TO BE FACEBOOK? ARE THEY GOING TO BE ON RICHARDSON TODAY WHO'S ALREADY DOING A DIGITAL. YEAH, I THINK PROBABLY WE'D PROBABLY AIR IT ON RICHARDSON TODAY SINCE THAT'S KIND OF OUR CITY FACEBOOK. AND THEN WE WOULD PUT IT ON INSTAGRAM AS WELL, I IMAGINE.

YEAH, DEFINITELY. AND THEN RICHARDSON.COM. OKAY. SO KIND OF A COMBINATION OF THOSE THINGS. OKAY, SO IT'S BASICALLY JUST A MINI STATE OF THE CITY OR JUST OVER. YEAH, IT WOULDN'T BE AS HIGH LEVEL AS STATE OF THE CITY, ALTHOUGH I'VE SAID THAT A FEW TIMES, BUT IT WOULD BE A QUICK RUNDOWN OF SOME OF THE DIFFERENT COUNCIL ACTION ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN THAT HAVE HAPPENED OVER THAT PERIOD OF THE MONTH, WOULD BE THE THOUGHT PROCESS IN KEEPING WITH WHAT OUR ISD IS DOING. IT'S JUST A GREAT WAY TO GET A QUICK CATCH UP. I MEAN, HYPOTHETICALLY, WE COULD DO A VIDEO A WEEK, BUT THAT SOUNDS LIKE A BIG STAFF BURDEN. WE MAY GET TO THE POINT AFTER A PILOT PERIOD, SIX MONTHS, WHATEVER, WHERE WE SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE'D LIKE THIS TO BE WEEKLY BECAUSE SOMETIMES A LOT HAPPENS IN ONE WEEK. THAT'S FINE TOO. BUT FOR NOW WE'RE THINKING, JUST BOIL IT TO A MONTHLY, OKAY. YEAH, COUNCILMEMBER JUSTICE, I LOVE IT. I THINK IT'S GREAT. AWESOME. COUNCIL MEMBER DORAN. YEAH, I LIKE IT AS WELL. JUST ANOTHER QUESTION, SINCE THIS, WE'RE DOING THIS ONCE A MONTH PER PER COUNCIL MEMBER, CORRECT? THAT'S RIGHT. SO EACH COUNCIL MEMBER WOULD GET TWO A YEAR. THEY WOULD GET TWO. OKAY. WE GET TWO A YEAR AND THE MAYOR WOULD GET ZERO. OKAY. WELL. THEN I'M INTERESTED IN IT. I FIGURED YOU MIGHT BE ALL RIGHT. MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHENRIDER. ALL RIGHT, SO WE'VE GOT SEVEN. AND I THINK WE WERE RELATIVELY ANSWERED MOST OF THE QUESTIONS THERE. DOES THAT SOUND OKAY? YEAH. SO THAT ANSWERS I THINK MOST OF THE QUESTIONS THAT ARE ON THERE. COUNCIL MEETING, FACEBOOK STREAMING. SO AS A POINT OF REFERENCE, THE CITY OF PLANO DOES THIS. IT IS IT IS NOT JUST STREAMING AFTER THE FACT. IT IS A LIVE STREAM. SO THAT MEANS THAT IF SOMEONE HAPPENS TO BE ON FACEBOOK AND THE COUNCIL MEETING STARTS, ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY'LL SEE THE LIVE STREAM GOING ON THERE, AND IT MIGHT BE A PLACE WHERE THEY COULD PRESS THE BUTTON INSTEAD OF, OH, LET ME FIGURE OUT WHERE DO I GO ON THE CITY WEBSITE TO GO WATCH THIS? THEY COULD JUST CLICK ON IT RIGHT THERE LIVE AND WATCH IT. AS WE WERE TOLD BY CITY STAFF, IT'S NOT A HEAVY LIFT TO GO LIVE ON THAT. I THINK THE BIG QUESTION, THERE'S TWO BIG QUESTIONS HERE. A SHOULD WE DO IT? BUT B, WHAT POSITION DO WE WANT TO TAKE ON THE COMMENTS? I THINK THERE MAY BE THREE

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OPTIONS, BUT YOU MIGHT TELL ME THERE'S JUST TWO. ONE IS THE COMMENTS ARE ON LIVE AND GOING FORWARD. THE OTHER IS THE COMMENTS ARE OFF PERIOD. AND I THINK THERE'S A BUT I COULD BE WRONG. COMMENTS ARE OFF AND THEN THEY CAN BE TURNED ON. IS THAT EVEN AN OPTION AFTER THE MEETING? SURE. SO WE CAN DISABLE COMMENTS JUST FOR THE LIVE PORTION, THE LIVE PORTION OF THE MEETING. RIGHT. OKAY. AND THEN THEY CAN BE ENABLED HYPOTHETICALLY ON THE OTHER END OF IT FOR OTHER FACEBOOK FUNCTIONS, BUT NOT FOR THE MEETING. OKAY, SO IF SOMEONE'S WATCHING THE MEETING AFTER BECAUSE LIKE TODAY, YOU CAN GO TO A CITY OF PLANO COUNCIL MEETING AND WATCH ONE THAT WAS LIVE BUT IS NO LONGER LIVE. IT'S STILL SITTING THERE ON THE FACEBOOK PAGE. OH, I UNDERSTAND, I'M SORRY. YEAH. SO I'M NOT SURE IF LIKE POST MEETING, IF THERE'S A WAY TO, TO TURN OFF THE COMMENTS, TURN ON THE COMMENTS, TURN ON THE COMMENTS.

I THINK AFTER THEY'VE BEEN OFF. YEAH. OKAY. SO IF IT'S POSSIBLE THERE MIGHT BE THAT THIRD OPTION. SO NUMBER ONE, DO WE DO IT AT ALL? NUMBER TWO, DO WE WANT COMMENTS DURING THE LIVE PORTION ON OR OFF. AND IF THE COMMENTS ARE OFF DURING THE LIVE PORTION AND IF WE CAN TURN THEM ON AFTER THE LIVE PORTION, DO WE WANT THEM ON AT THAT TIME? SO WE'LL JUST START WITH YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHENRIDER. I WOULD SAY YES, I WOULD HAVE CONCERNS WITH LIVE COMMENTS DURING THE MEETING. YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALREADY BEEN WHAT I WANT TO SAY, COUNSELED BY LEGAL COUNSEL THAT, YOU KNOW, DON'T ACCEPT TEXT DURING MEETINGS. ET CETERA. ET CETERA, ETC. I COULD SEE, YOU KNOW, OH, I WONDER WHAT PEOPLE ARE THINKING BEFORE, YOU KNOW, I JUST THINK THERE'S A, THERE'S AN INFLUENCE FACTOR THERE THAT DOESN'T FEEL RIGHT. AND SO, BUT THEN I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF TURNING THEM ON AFTER THE MEETING IS OVER. MY ONLY OTHER QUESTION ON THIS IS KIND OF LIKE YOU MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT THE SPECTRUM AT&T THING. IS THIS SOMETHING THAT CAN START NOW, OR DO WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE ENHANCED CAPABILITIES OF THE NEW CITY HALL? THAT'S MY ONLY QUESTION. NO, WE CAN START THIS CURRENTLY BECAUSE IT'S ACTUALLY SWAG IT.

THAT'LL BE OKAY. I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IT BECAUSE BECAUSE OF THE SPECTRUM AT&T THING YOU MENTIONED EARLIER, I DIDN'T KNOW IF WE HAD LIMITED CAPABILITY. SO YEAH, WE'RE GOOD.

NO, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT. SO DID I ANSWER ALL YOUR QUESTIONS? YOU DID OKAY. YEAH.

COUNCILMEMBER DAWN. YEAH, I YEAH, I LIKE THE IDEA. MIKE. I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. ONE, WHO, WHO WOULD BE STREAMING THIS? WOULD GREG BE COMING IN AND SWAGGER OR PARDON THE SAME PEOPLE WHO STREAM IT ON OUR WEBSITE WOULD WOULD PUT IT ON THE FACEBOOK. RIGHT. IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY. SO THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD BE PUTTING IT ON THERE. IT WOULD BE LIVE AND IT WOULD BE STREAMED THROUGH RICHARDSON TODAY. GOT IT. AND WHO'S GOING TO ADDRESS THE COMMENTS ONCE WE TURN COMMENTS ON SAME PEOPLE WHO. THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. I MEAN, IF THAT'S A THAT'S A VERY FAIR QUESTION. I I'M CURIOUS HOW STAFF WOULD RESPOND ON YOUR BEHALF IF YOU WERE ASKED QUESTIONS OR. SO. I MEAN, I THINK YOU GOT. I THINK YOU NEED TO THINK ABOUT HOW. I MEAN, IF IF YOU PUT. THE OTHER THING IS ONCE YOU PUT UP. ONCE YOU ALLOW THE QUESTION, THOSE COMMENTS TO BE PUT UP THERE, THEY. THEY CAN'T BE TAKEN DOWN UNLESS THEY'RE A VULGAR OR MEET OTHER STANDARDS. SO I THINK YOU NEED TO DECIDE WHETHER I MEAN, PRESENTLY WE DON'TET PUT IN A POSITION TO ANSWER QUESTIONS FOR YOU BASED ON VIDEO. SO I THINK I THINK THAT'S A FAIR QUESTION THAT I WOULD I WOULD WANT SOME GUIDANCE AND, AND, AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO SPEAK ON YOUR BEHALF ABOUT WHAT YOU DID IF WE'RE ASKED A QUESTION? YEAH, I THINK THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN RIGHT NOW BECAUSE, I MEAN, IT'S HARD ENOUGH JUST TO KEEP UP WITH ALL THE SOCIAL MEDIA SITES THAT WE PERSONALLY HAVE AND ALL THE CITY REQUIREMENTS. AND I DON'T KNOW IF COMMENTS SHOULD EVEN BE TURNED ON. IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN YOU'RE RIGHT. I MEAN, WHO'S GOING TO REPLY BACK TO WHO AND ARE THEY GOING TO BE ADDRESSED TO THE ENTIRE COUNCIL? OR ARE THEY GOING TO BE SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSED TO SOMEONE ON COUNCIL OR THE MAYOR? I MEAN, THOSE ARE WE ALL HAVE TO BE PREPARED TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON THAT. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A VERY TIME CONSUMING ISSUE. SO I HAVE TWO THINGS. ONE, I DON'T KNOW IF I WOULD PUT HER COMMENTS ON AS AN OPTION JUST BECAUSE UNLESS WE COME UP WITH A STAFF THAT CAN REPLY BACK TO EVERYTHING ON OUR BEHALF, OR WE JUST HOLD OFF ON THIS FOR NOW AND, YOU KNOW, AND INCORPORATE IT LATER SINCE WE'VE ALREADY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO PROBABLY PUT IN A COUPLE OTHER THINGS. THE NEW THINGS IN THE PROGRAM. SO, SO YOUR, YOUR VOTE IS FOR YOUR VOTE IS NO COMMENTS THEN ON THE FACEBOOK. SO FOR NOW OR NOT YOUR VOTE, BUT YOUR PREFERENCE, I APOLOGIZE. YES. I MEAN, AGAIN, I LIKE THE LIVE STREAMING WE DO IT WITH I MEAN, I'M ON SEVERAL BOARDS AND, AND WE DO IT WITH OUR BOARDS. SO BUT I JUST BUT WE ALSO HAVE SOMEBODY THERE ON STAFF THAT IS CONSTANTLY, IT'S A FULL TIME JOB FOR THEM. AND THESE ARE SMALLER BOARDS. YEAH. CITY OF PLANO HAS 50,000 VIEWERS ON THEIR FACEBOOK CHANNEL. 50,000.

LIKE PEOPLE THAT FOLLOW THEM. ON AVERAGE, THEY ONLY HAVE ABOUT 2 OR 3 COMMENTS PER ITEM.

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AND FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN, THEY'RE NOT THAT MUCH DIFFERENT THAN THE COMMENTS THAT ARE MADE ON ANY OTHER CITY OF PLANO POST. BUT WE COULD ALWAYS DIRECT STAFF TO SAY, IF IT'S ABOUT WHY DID THEY MAKE THAT DECISION? WE COULD EITHER LEAVE IT UNANSWERED OR WE COULD SAY, YOU KNOW, PLEASE CONTACT YOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS. I DON'T KNOW FOR QUESTIONS LIKE THIS. AND WE COULD JUST HAVE A BOILERPLATE, HYPOTHETICALLY. YEAH, IT'S AND THEN PROBABLY NOT WORK OUT, BUT WE ALREADY WE ALREADY HAVE AT LEAST A POST A DAY. IT SEEMS LIKE COMING OUT A CITY OF OUT OF RICHARDSON TODAY. AND, AND THEY'RE ALREADY ANSWERING THOSE. AND THIS WOULD JUST BE ANSWERING THESE AT THE SAME CLIP AS THEY DO THOSE. IT'S JUST DIFFERENT BECAUSE THEY MIGHT ASK, WHAT WAS THE MAYOR THINKING? AND THAT QUESTION PROBABLY SHOULDN'T BE ANSWERED BY A STAFFER. YEAH. WELL, I MEAN, I WOULDN'T ANSWER IT EITHER. I WOULD ANSWER IT ON MY OWN IF THEY ASKED ME SO. AND I COULD BE PERSONAL TOO. AGAIN, I'M USUALLY I HAVE TO USE NEXT DOOR AS A REFERENCE, BUT I HAVE TO IN THIS CASE, BECAUSE THIS IS NOW BECOME PUBLIC INFORMATION AND PEOPLE ARE GOING TO WANT TO RESPOND. AND I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH INFORMATION IS GOING TO PASS THROUGH THAT, THAT FEE. SO YOU'RE FOR IT. BUT BUT TURN OFF THE COMMENTS AT LEAST AT LEAST A START. ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE, I'M FOR IT. NO LIVE COMMENTS COMMENTS AFTERWARDS. I THINK THAT IF IT'S A FACTUAL WHEN IS THIS PROJECT GOING TO BE DONE? THE CITY WOULD ANSWER THAT ANYWAY. IF IT'S ABOUT AN INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBER, THE CITY DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING AND IT'S UP TO YOU IF YOU WANT TO ADDRESS IT, I LIKE THAT. I'LL SECOND THAT. ALL RIGHT. EXACTLY THE SAME CCERN. COUNCIL MEMBER CORCORAN. YEAH, I MEAN, IT'S KIND OF FUNNY, I THINK JUST YEAH, DISABLE LIVE COMMENTS, ENABLE COMMENTS 24 HOURS AFTER THE MEETING AND HAVE SOMETHING IN THE POST IF POSSIBLE. JUST SAYING THAT THESE COMMENTS AREN'T GOING TO BE RESPONDED TO. YEAH. THAT'S ACTUALLY YEAH. IF THERE'S A FACTUAL QUESTION, WE'LL ANSWER IT. IF THERE'S OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT OR COMMENTS WON'T BE. YEAH. I MEAN, DURING THE LIVE STREAM, AT LEAST TO YOUR POINT, EITHER THIS IS A REDUNDANT THING THAT WE'RE DOING AND NO ONE'S WATCHING IT, WHICH IS KIND OF THE VIBE THAT I GOT EARLIER OR THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY COMMENTS ANYWAY, RIGHT? I MEAN, I'M PREDICTING YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE MAYBE DOUBLE THE VIEWERSHIP THAT WE HAVE ON OUR TV. IT'S JUST, IT'S, IT'S THE SAME STREAM, BUT IT'S JUST A MAYBE AN EASIER METHOD FOR PEOPLE TO GET TO IT. THAT'S MY GUESS. COUNCILMEMBER. MORPHINE. WHERE DO YOU STAND ON THESE? WHY JUST LIMIT FACEBOOK? THAT'S MY QUESTION. I THINK I THINK FOR LIVE STREAMING, THAT MAY BE IS THERE IS THERE AN OPTION TO DO THIS ON INSTAGRAM AS WELL? I DON'T KNOW THAT.

OKAY. I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S MY THING. IF WE GO FOR ONE, THEN WHY NOT JUST GO? ALL RIGHT. AND I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. AND THEN HOW DO YOU CHOOSE? THE COMMENTS ARE NOT APPROPRIATE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU UNIVERSAL PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, CHOICE MIGHT BE SOMETHING BAD, BUT THERE ARE LIKE 1 OR 2 PEOPLE WHO THINK THAT THOSE ARE GOOD COMMENTS. THAT'S WHY PEOPLE ARE MAKING COMMENTS NOWADAYS. SO HOW DO YOU CHOOSE WHO CHOOSE WHICH ONE IS APPROPRIATE, WHICH ONE IS NOT APPROPRIATE, AND DELETE COMMENTS? I MEAN, I WOULD I MEAN, I THINK THEY, I THINK THEY DO IT EVERY DAY TODAY. IF SOMEONE PUTS SOMETHING INAPPROPRIATE WHENEVER THEY SAY THAT THE TRASH IS GOING TO BE TAKEN OUT ON WEDNESDAY, IF THEY SAY SOMETHING SUPER NEGATIVE, THAT'S NOT RIGHT OR, YOU KNOW, VULGAR, THEN THEY TAKE IT DOWN. WE HAVE SOME IN FIVE MINUTES, THEY CAN COME AND THEY CAN SING WHATEVER SONG THEY LIKE TO SING. SURE. SO MY ONLY POINT IS THAT'S A SOCIAL MEDIA STRATEGY WHICH ALREADY EXISTS BY THE CITY. THEY'RE ALREADY HANDLING THAT. SO I DON'T WANT TO REWRITE THAT TO DO ANY. WE'RE NOT GOING TO BREAK ANY FEDERAL, YOU KNOW, FREE SPEECH, YOU KNOW, RULE ALL KIND OF THINGS. I MEAN, NO, I MEAN, I MEAN, THE REALITY IS THIS THAT THE STREAM THAT'S OUT THERE NOW, ANYBODY WITH ANY DEVICE CAN STREAM IT LIVE AND THERE'S NO COMMENTS. YEAH, YEAH. SO THIS, I MEAN, YOU'RE BY, BY ALLOWING COMMENTS TO BE PUT ON, YOU'RE JUST CREATING ANOTHER FORUM THAT WE HAVE TO CHECK. AND ULTIMATELY WE HAVE TO RESPOND TO IF, IF THE QUESTION IS APPROPRIATE. OTHERWISE, YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU CAN SIGNAL THAT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU'D ALLOW COMMENTS AND THEN SAY THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO RESPOND TO THEM. BUT THAT'S MY OPINION. I THINK THAT SETS A BAD I THINK THAT'S INCONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE DO ON ALL OF OUR SOCIAL MEDIA CHANNELS. AND SO I THINK, SAY, SAYING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO ALLOW COMMENTS, BUT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING WITH THEM IS, IS, IS INCONSISTENT. SO WHAT YOU'RE DOING, I MEAN, ESSENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE JUST CREATING ANOTHER PLATFORM THAT, THAT SOMEBODY IN COMMUNICATIONS IS GOING TO HAVE TO MONITOR AND MONITOR AND RESPOND TO THE QUESTIONS, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.

OKAY. AND MY LAST QUESTION OR COMMENT WOULD BE THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF SUPPORTING LIKE BLOCKING SOMEONE FROM MAKING COMMENTS. I WOULD GO FOR OPEN COMMENTS LIVE. IF WE GO FOR IT, I THINK WE SHOULD GO FOR SOMETHING REALLY OPEN AND VERY TRANSPARENT. SO PEOPLE FEEL THAT THEY CAN COMMUNICATE. THAT'S MY OPINION. THAT'S MY THAT'S FINE. SO I THINK WHERE WE ARE WITH THE MAJORITY IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH FACEBOOK. IF SOMEHOW SWAGAT CAN DO INSTAGRAM, I'M ASSUMING THERE'S NO MAJOR PROBLEM WITH THAT. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE COMMENTS OFF DURING THE LIVE PORTION TURNED ON IF YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO TURN THEM

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ON AFTERWARDS. IF WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY, WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY, WE JUST LEAVE THEM OFF.

AND FOR THE PILOT, WE DO IT THAT WAY. MAYBE AFTER THE PILOT, WE DECIDE THERE'S TOO MANY PEOPLE THAT WANT TO PUT COMMENTS ON THERE AND WE CAN AT LEAST IT GETS SOME VIEWERSHIP.

ALL RIGHT. CAN I GET A POINT OF CLARIFICATION IF WE CANNOT TURN THEM ON SUBSEQUENTLY, YOU JUST TURN THEM ON. NO, LEAVE THEM OFF THE WHOLE TIME. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. IS THAT OKAY WITH

[7. REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE STATE OF THE CITY]

EVERYBODY? OKAY. YEP. LET'S MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE, WHICH IS ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE STATE OF THE CITY. MR. MAGNER. THANK YOU, MAYOR, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. AGAIN, ANOTHER FOLLOW UP FROM OUR WORK. 27 FY 27 BUDGET WORKSHOP. YOU'LL RECALL THAT YOU DIRECTED ME TO INCLUDE $35,000 FOR THE STATE OF THE CITY IN JANUARY 2027. THAT'S ABOUT A $10,000 YEAR OVER YEAR. THEN YOU ALSO ASK THAT WE REVISIT THE VENUE OPTIONS FOR 27 SUBSEQUENT TO THE BUDGET BEING ADOPTED. JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE TWO HALLS. BANK OF AMERICA IS WHERE WE'VE HELD THE STATE OF THE CITY SINCE 2011, THE MAIN SEATING CAPACITY IN THE THEATER THERE, YOU SEE, IS 420. THIS LAST STATE OF THE CITY IN 2026, WE WENT AHEAD OUT OF AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION AND SET UP FOR AN ADDITIONAL 280 OVERFLOW SEATS THAT WERE ABOUT 80 SEATS IN THE MAIN LOBBY. YOU SEE THE SCREEN THERE ON THE TOP RIGHT, AND THEN ABOUT 200 SEATS DOWN THE BANK OF AMERICA HALL. JUST AGAIN, SHARING INFORMATION WE SHARED BACK IN THE BUDGET RETREAT. WE DID NOT WANT TO INCLUDE THE 2026 IN THE CALCULATION FOR THE AVERAGE JUST BECAUSE OF THE WEATHER ISSUE. AND SO WE HAVE AVERAGED ABOUT 325 SEATS. SO THERE'S AN IMPORTANT DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE TICKETS ISSUED AND WHAT ALI CALLS THE DROP COUNT. THIS IS THE ACTUAL DRUM COUNT. THIS IS THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WALK THROUGH THE DOOR AT THE AT THE ATTENDANCE. AND SO COST FOR THE 26 EVENT WAS JUST SHY OF ABOUT $23,000. THE HILL PERFORMANCE HALL IS THE IS THE OTHER VENUE THAT WAS CONSIDERED A TOTAL CAPACITY THERE OF ABOUT 1600 SEATS. THE LOWER LEVEL THAT YOU SEE, OR THE ORCHESTRA FLOOR, WHICH ALL OF YOU HAVE BEEN TO, THE ICEMAN, IT'S THE LOWEST LEVEL ON THE FIRST FLOOR THERE. THERE'S ABOUT, COINCIDENTALLY ABOUT A 420 SEAT CAPACITY THERE. IF YOU DON'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE ORCHESTRA PIT, THE SECOND TIER OR THE ORCHESTRA TIER BETWEEN THAT, THAT LARGE KIND OF CORRIDOR THAT RUNS THROUGH THE CENTER AND THE BACK OF THE AUDITORIUM, THERE IS ANOTHER 650 SEATS. SO YOU CAN SEE THERE ABOUT 1070 SEATS TOTAL. AND THERE'S ANOTHER 500 ISH SEATS ON THE ON THE MEZZANINE. THE ONLY OTHER THING I MENTIONED ABOUT THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A KIND OF 600 IS KIND OF AN INTERESTING NUMBER FOR A VARIETY OF THINGS RIGHT NOW. ONCE WE EXCEED 600, THAT'S WHEN WE GENERALLY HAVE TO OPEN UP A SECOND PARKING LOT AND DO SOME TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT JUST BECAUSE GENERALLY, ESSENTIALLY, YOU'RE USUALLY RECEIVING, YOU KNOW, THAT MANY FOLKS WITHIN ABOUT AN HOUR OF THE OF THE EVENT OR SO, IT ALSO CAUSES ADDITIONAL AISLES TO BE OPENED UP, WHICH IT CAUSES OR NECESSITATES SOME ADDITIONAL SECURITY THAT'S REFLECTED IN THESE NUMBERS HERE.

SO WHAT YOU SEE THERE IS OUR CURRENT ESTIMATE RECALL WHEN WE WERE HERE DURING THE BUDGET, GREG WAS SHARING WITH YOU THAT WE WERE UNFORTUNATELY LOSING THE PRODUCTION CREW THAT WE HAVE USED NOW FOR REALLY SINCE THE INCEPTION OF THE STATE OF THE CITY, AS WELL AS WILDFLOWER.

OVER THAT PERIOD OF TIME. WE WENT OUT WITH AN RFP HERE OVER THE SUMMER, AND THANKFULLY THE PRICE WAS WENT UP, BUT IT ONLY WENT UP ABOUT 20% OR SO. AND SO THAT'S THE NUMBER THAT YOU SEE UNDER PRODUCTION. THE NUMBER UNDER THE ISEMAN CENTER IS THE NUMBER THAT IS REQUIRED FOR THE STAGE, CREW, SECURITY, PARKING, AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THE NUMBER ON THE PRODUCTION JUST SLIGHTLY CHANGE. BUT ON THE ISEMAN CENTER, YOU SEE IT JUMP UP ABOUT $4,500 OR SO BETWEEN THE TWO. AGAIN, FOR THE FOR THE REASONS I MENTIONED IN THE PERFORMANCE HALL. SO WHAT YOU SEE THERE, THAT THIRD COLUMN FROM THE LEFT IS THE TOTAL ANTICIPATED COST OF HOSTING THE EVENT IN THE VARIOUS VENUES, BASED ON THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE IN ATTENDANCE. THE ONLY OTHER THING I'LL MENTION IS THAT THE PARKING LOT TWO AND THREE ARE PART OF THE GALLATIN CAMPUS. NOW, WITH THAT CAMPUS BEING FULLY OCCUPIED, THOSE PARKING LOTS ARE NOT AVAILABLE TO THE CITY UNTIL 6:00. THAT'S WHY YOU GENERALLY DON'T SEE AN ICEMAN SHOW START PRIOR TO 730. AND SO IF WE DID IT IN THE HILL PERFORMANCE HALL, WE WOULD NEED TO MOVE THE START TIME OF THE CITY FROM 630 TO 730, JUST TO BE ABLE TO ALLOW AN ORDERLY DEPARTURE BY THE, THE EMPLOYEES OF THE OF THE USING THE TWO PARKING LOTS. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, ABOUT AN HOUR OR SO ARRIVAL TIME FOR THE STATE OF THE CITY. BUT AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE ASSUMING OVER 600 ATTENDEES. AND SO QUESTION HERE IS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. WE

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NEED TO MAKE A DECISION TONIGHT IF POSSIBLE. BELIEVE IT OR NOT, STATE OF THE CITY IS LITERALLY AROUND THE CORNER. AND WITH THE HOLIDAYS, FROM A PRODUCTION STANDPOINT, WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO GET A DECISION AND MOVE FORWARD. SO DO WE CONTINUE TO HOST IT IN THE IN IN THE BOAT, OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO RELOCATE IT TO THE HILL? SO JUST A COUPLE OPENING COMMENTS AND THEN I'D LOVE TO HEAR KIND OF EVERYONE'S THOUGHTS. SO WE'LL START WITH LAST YEAR, I ATTEMPTED A PILOT WHERE I STARTED SPEAKING TO SOME OF THE RISD GOVERNMENT CLASSES, WHICH ENDED UP GETTING ACTUALLY A BUNCH OF STUDENTS THAT ENDED UP BUYING TICKETS OR GETTING TICKETS. I THINK WE ENDED UP, OBVIOUSLY AT SOME POINT, THIS ICE AND SNOW AND EVERYTHING HAPPENED. AND SO PEOPLE STOPPED GRABBING TICKETS. BUT I THINK YOU HAD MENTIONED 580 OR SO TICKETS THAT WERE PURCHASED LAST YEAR. I THINK LAST YEAR MIGHT HAVE BEEN THE FIRST TIME.

WE ALSO TURNED OFF THE THE CAP BECAUSE PREVIOUSLY THERE WAS A CAP. YOU COULD ONLY SELL SO MANY TICKETS, IF I REMEMBER. DOES THAT JIVE OR IS THAT NOT ACCURATE? I DON'T BELIEVE WE'VE HAD THE NEED TO DO THAT YET. OKAY. IT WAS NEVER CAPPED BEFORE BECAUSE THERE WASN'T A SELL OUT BEFORE. SO. SO I HAD ASKED TO JUST UNCAP IT LAST YEAR AND IF WE NEEDED IT, WE COULD HAVE THE OVERFLOW. WE STARTED CREATING THE OVERFLOW BECAUSE WE WERE STARTING TO HAVE THOSE TICKET SALES THE WAY THEY WERE GOING. THIS, THIS GO ROUND. MY INTENTION, IF WE DID DO THIS AT THE HILL IS TO DO OUTREACH TO OUR SENIOR HOUSING COMMUNITY. THEY EACH HAVE TRANSPORTATION AND THE ABILITY TO BRING PEOPLE TO THE STATE OF THE CITY. IT'D BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY AND A GREAT THING FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON WITH OUR CITY.

I WOULD DOUBLE THE EFFORTS WITH RISD, EXPAND IT INTO PISD, AND BEGAN WORKING WITH UT DALLAS TO ALSO DO WHAT WE CAN TO GET CREDIT FOR ATTENDANCE AND THAT SORT OF THING. THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT RISD WAS UTILIZING LAST YEAR WHEN WE WERE STARTING TO DO THAT.

THERE'S ALSO THE 250TH ANNIVERSARY OF OF THE COUNTRY, AND THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO PERHAPS DO SOME STUFF WITH VETERANS AND GETTING THEM OUT THERE OR ENTICING THEM TO COME OUT. AND THEN LASTLY, I'VE ALREADY GOT COMMITMENTS FOR $3,000 WORTH OF NONPROFIT DOLLARS THAT WE COULD GIVE TO NON-PROFITS THAT ARE VOTED BY THE AUDIENCE AS THE ONE THAT THEY CHOOSE TO RECEIVE THE FUNDS. AND SO KIND OF TAKING A LITTLE BIT OF A PAGE OFF THE RICHARDSON REAL HEROES WINGS PROGRAM, WHERE YOU CAN KIND OF GET THE NONPROFITS TO B EXCITED ABOUT SHOWING UP AND BEING A PART OF IT. SO FROM MY PART, I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE A PATHWAY TO BEING ABLE TO REALLY GET A LOT MORE PEOPLE INVOLVED WITH OUR CITY AND SHOWING UP TO THIS THING. IF THE WHOLE THING IS A DISASTER AND ALL WE END UP WITH IS 400, THEN THERE IS A PERFECT SPACE WHERE WE WOULD CONTAIN THOSE 400 PEOPLE AND IT WOULD JUST BE A BIGGER STAGE.

BUT 400 PEOPLE SITTING THERE, THAT'S IN THE WORST CASE AND THE BEST CASE, IN MY OPINION, THE BEST CASE, YOU END UP WITH 1600 PEOPLE THERE, AND YOU HAVE FOUR TIMES AS MANY PEOPLE THAT GET TO BE EXCITED ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE CITY AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'VE ALL ENJOYED AND A SELECT FEW OTHERS HAVE BEEN ABLE TO ENJOY. BUT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET A LOT MORE. THE LAST THING I'LL SAY IS I THINK THESE COSTS WERE BASED ON KIND OF HOW WE'VE DONE THE FOOD IN THE PAST, BUT I KNOW WE WERE TALKING MR. MAGNER, ABOUT THERE ARE POSSIBILITIES OF HAVING THE FOOD, BUT SCALING BACK A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE OFTENTIMES WITH FREE TICKETS, YOU DON'T GET THE FULL PARTICIPATION. I THINK. WAS IT 60 OR 70% THAT YOU SAID, GENERALLY, FOR EVERY FREE TICKET THAT YOU ISSUE, ABOUT 60% OF THE FOLKS WILL SHOW UP.

THERE YOU GO. AND SO A 60% TURNOUT MIGHT MEAN THAT WE COULD GO WITH LIGHTER FOOD, DEPENDING ON WHAT WE GET FROM THE, FROM THE ACCOUNT. SO OBVIOUSLY, I'D LOVE TO SEE THIS HAPPEN. I KNOW WE'VE PUT ASIDE TEN GRAND AND WITH A LITTLE BIT OF AN ADJUSTING BASED ON THIS 60% THING, WE COULD PROBABLY PRETTY EASILY BE ABLE TO HAVE 12 OR 1300 TICKETS SOLD AND STILL BE IN THE $10,000 EXTRA BUDGET THAT WE'VE ALLOCATED FOR THIS TO GET THAT 36,000. I'LL START WITH ANY QUESTIONS. COUNCIL MEMBER CORCORAN. I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, MR. MAYOR, BUT, YOU KNOW, I DO THINK JUST SOMETHING ELSE WE NEED TO ACKNOWLEDGE IS THAT REALLY YOU PERSONALLY HAVE A LEVEL OF CELEBRITY, AND I MEAN THAT NOT EVEN REALLY JOKINGLY.

I MEAN, YOU MORE THAN REALLY ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBER MAYOR IN MY MEMORY, AS FAR AS JUST

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THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT YOU'RE TAKING OUT TO YOUR TOWN HALLS, YOU BEING ASKED TO SPEAK REGIONALLY AND EITHER ON A PANEL OR AS A KEYSTONE SPEAKER. AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, HONESTLY, I THINK IF YOU THINK YOU CAN DRAW OUT A THOUSAND PEOPLE OR WHATEVER THE NUMBER IS, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE A SIGNIFICANT ROLE IN DECIDING, YOU KNOW, WHAT THAT IS. AND I MEAN, I SUPPORT WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO THERE. MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHENRIDER THE, I THINK THE DOLLAR SITUATION WE BUDGETED, I THINK THAT THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE IS I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE WILL LOSE, ESPECIALLY, I MEAN, TO, TO THE TO THE GROUPS THAT YOU MENTIONED, THIS IS A QUESTION. IT'S NOT A STATEMENT. IT'S A QUESTION. YOU KNOW, IF WE START AT 730 AT NIGHT, THAT MEANS WE'RE GOING TO END APPROXIMATELY 9 P.M. I'M NOT SURE EVEN WHAT LEVEL OF FOOD AND BEVERAGE AT 9:00 AT NIGHT. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I DON'T MY MY CONCERN IS WHAT I'VE HEARD A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY IS, OH, WE'VE STARTED IT AT 6:00. PEOPLE COME DIRECTLY FROM WORK, COME IN. THEY'RE HERE FOR CITY. THEY'RE HERE FOR THE FOR THE STATE OF THE CITY. WE USUALLY WRAP UP BY LIKE 730 ISH, AT LEAST THE YEARS THAT I CAN REMEMBER. THEN WE'VE HAD PEOPLE STICK AROUND FOR 30, 40 MINUTES. THEY GO HOME. SO THAT, THAT THAT'S, THAT'S PROBABLY THE BIG. I HAD NOT SEEN THAT. I DIDN'T REMEMBER THAT. 730 DISCUSSION AS A PART OF THE BUDGET DISCUSSION. THAT'S PROBABLY MY BIGGEST QUESTION IS, YES, THERE'S THERE'S TRADE OFF WE MAY GET. BUT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IF WE DO THIS HISTORICALLY, WE'VE DONE IT ON WEDNESDAY NIGHT, TUESDAY NIGHT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, YOU'VE GOT STUDENTS, I DON'T KNOW, I JUST DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS. IT'S JUST THAT THAT 730 CONCERNS ME. I'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT. BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF A TRADE OFF THAT IS, BECAUSE I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD. OH, I'M NOT GOING TO GO, YOU KNOW, AT 730 THAT MEANS PEOPLE WILL LEAVE WORK. THEY'LL GO HOME. ONCE YOU GET HOME, IT'S A LITTLE HARDER TO GET PEOPLE OUT THE DOOR. AND I JUST IT'S A QUESTION MARK. IT'S NOT A COMMENT. IT'S A QUESTION MARK AS TO HOW WOULD THAT AFFECT US. I THINK ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT MR. MAGNER WAS SHARING WITH ME, IN JUST MORE DATA THAN ANYTHING ELSE, ANY PERFORMANCE THAT'S DONE IN THE HILL DURING THE WEEK NEVER STARTS BEFORE. 730. SO WE TODAY DO OUR REGULAR SHOWS STARTING AT 730. IF IT'S GOING TO BE IN THE HILL FOR THE SAME, SAME REASON WHY THIS WAS PUSHED TO 730, IT WASN'T DISCUSSED DURING THE BUDGET BECAUSE I THINK ONCE WE STARTED KIND OF UNCOVERING THE NEED FOR THE OTHER GARAGES AND WITH THE SUCCESS WE'VE HAD AT GALLATIN, WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT BUSINESS FOLKS THERE, WE GOT TO WAIT FOR THEM TO CLEAR OUT SO THAT WE CAN BRING PEOPLE IN. AND THAT'S WHY THE ADJUSTMENT IN TIME. BUT AS A REFERENCE, 730 IS THE EARLIEST TIME FOR A PRODUCTION AT THE ICEMAN DURING THE WEEK. YEAH. AND I JUST DON'T KNOW OUR OUR SENIOR TURNOUT AND I DON'T KNOW, OUR STUDENTS MAY NOT TURN OUT FOR THAT AT, AT SEVEN BECAUSE IT'LL BE 739. AND THEN I DON'T KNOW, WE MIGHT EVEN WANT TO IF WE'RE GONNA, IF WE'RE GONNA, IF WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO 730, DO WE DO THE FOOD AT THE BEGINNING? I DON'T KNOW.

YEAH. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, I JUST IT, THAT PROBABLY IS MY BIGGEST QUESTION OUT OF ALL OF THIS. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER DORAN, I'LL JUST GO DOWN THE LINE THIS WAY. THANK YOU. YEAH.

I MEAN, I'M KIND OF THINKING ALONG THE SAME LINES AS COUNCILMAN HUTCHENRIDER. YOU KNOW, IF WE WERE TO HAVE A FOOD ELEMENT, WOULD THAT BE BEFORE AND NOT AFTER? AND AGAIN, I'M KIND OF ON THE FENCE ON THIS BECAUSE, ONE, I FEEL DEEP DOWN INSIDE, I REALLY FEEL LIKE THIS SHOULD BE PUSHED OUT ANOTHER YEAR, POTENTIALLY TO SEE IF WE CAN EVEN GET THE BOAT. BANK OF AMERICA THEATER FILLED UP THIS TIME AND USED THAT AS A GO BY. EVEN IF WE HAVE OVERFLOW, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE MEZZANINE. WE HAVE WE HAVE WE CAN PUT ADDITIONAL SEATING ON THE SIDE AND WE'LL HAVE SEATING DOWNSTAIRS. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE SEATING UPSTAIRS. AND TO SEE IF WE CAN POTENTIALLY GET THAT, THAT AMOUNT OF PEOPLE OUT AND THEN PROVE THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD TO THE NEXT LEVEL. I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE SENIORS THAT THAT WE'RE PUT THAT YOU POTENTIALLY WANT TO PUSH FOR. I MEAN, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SENIORS OUT THERE REGARDLESS, BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT IF WE'RE ADVOCATING FOR THAT, ARE THEY GOING TO BE ABLE TO COME OUT AND STAY OUT THAT LATE? AND AND SAME THING FOR THE STUDENTS. THOSE ARE MY ONLY CONCERNS. I'M NOT SAYING I DISAGREE OR AGREE. I'M JUST WANTING TO STATE THOSE COMMENTS BECAUSE I THINK EVERYONE'S THINKING THEM. PERFECT. COUNCIL MEMBER BURDETT HAD A QUESTION FOR YOU TO YOUR LAST COMMENT ABOUT POTENTIALLY SCALING THE FOOD BANK, BECAUSE WHEN I FIRST LOOKED AT THIS TABLE AND SEE, YOU KNOW, SAW THE BUDGET WORKSHOP WHERE 35,000 WAS ALLOCATED OR IN THE OR REQUESTED IN THE BUDGET, THE HIGHEST WILL BE THE HILL AT 600 AGAIN WITH THE, THE GARAGE

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ADDITIONAL COST BEING ONE OF THE BIG BUMPS THERE. WHAT YOU'RE SAYING OR SUGGESTING IS WE DO LESS FOOD, EVEN IF THE NUMBER OF ATTENDEES OR TICKETS ISSUED ACTUALLY REALLY ATTENDEES IS IS HIGHER, WE WOULD JUST PROVIDE LESS FOOD TO REDUCE THAT ELEMENT OF THE BUDGET. I THINK WHAT WAS SUGGESTED WAS IN THE PAST WE WOULD, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IN THE PAST, WE WOULD ORDER THE FOOD BASED ON THE TICKET NUMBER. AND THE SUGGESTION IS, IS THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO LIKE A 70% JUST IN CASE THE 60 DOESN'T WORK OUT THIS TIME. IF WE HAVE A HIGHER TURNOUT, WE MIGHT DO 70% AND HAVE FOOD FOR WHAT WE ACTUALLY EXPECT TO SHOW UP VERSUS JUST THE TICKET SALES. YEAH, EXACTLY. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I CAN GIVE YOU SEVERAL EXAMPLES IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, BUT IF YOU'RE IF YOU, IF YOU GIVE OUT A THOUSAND FREE TICKETS, YOU'RE GOING TO GET 600 PEOPLE. AND SO WHAT I WAS SAYING TO THE MAYOR IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN ESSENTIALLY ESSENTIALLY PLAN FOR 600, MAYBE WE BE CONSERVATIVE AND PLAN FOR 70% OR 700. BUT I MEAN, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THE SHOW IS. REAL HEROES, THE COMMUNITY BAND, THE NAVAL BAND THAT WAS HERE THREE TIMES. I MEAN, WE'RE GIVING AWAY SOMETIMES TWICE AS MANY TICKETS AS PEOPLE ARE ATTENDING IN THE REAL HEROES, THREE YEARS IN A ROW HAS AVERAGED 60%. THEY GIVE OUT X NUMBER OF TICKETS AND 60% ACTUALLY DROP THROUGH THE DOOR.

AND SO I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU IF YOU GIVE AWAY A THOUSAND FREE TICKETS, I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE TO PURCHASE FOOD FOR A THOUSAND. ACTUALLY, I THINK IT WOULD BE A BIG END UP BEING A BIG WASTE. SO WE COULD POTENTIALLY TWEAK THE FOOD AND BEVERAGE NUMBERS DOWN, YOU KNOW, 70% OF WHAT THEY ARE, SAY, FOR INSTANCE. AND AND THEN YOUR TOTAL, YOUR TOTAL COST WOULD COULD BE ADJUSTED ACCORDINGLY. SO WE COULD HYPOTHETICALLY BE WITHIN 10,000 OF WHAT WE WOULD PAY FOR THE BOAT ANYWAY. IS, IS THE POINT, WHICH IS WHAT WE, I THINK THAT WAS THE ADDITIONAL THAT WE BUDGETED THIS YEAR. DO YOU USE THAT SAME FORMULA THEN WHEN DETERMINING WTHER OR NOT WE NEED TO ACTIVATE THE SECOND GARAGE AND PUSH THE START TIME AN HOUR? IT IS A THOUSAND TICKETS ISSUED. WE ASSUME 600. SO WE CAN THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE PROBLEMATIC. THAT DECISION NEEDS TO BE MADE FURTHER IN ADVANCE THAN THAN THE FINAL COUNT FOR FOOD. I MEAN, WE CAN DO THAT RELATIVELY CLOSE. WE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO, WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO COORDINATE WITH OUR CAMPUS, THE GALLATIN CAMPUS PARTNERS.

AND SO, I MEAN, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT FURTHER OUT, BUT, BUT EVEN THE START TIME, I MEAN, YOU WANT TO PUBLISH THAT WELL IN ADVANCE. PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THEY'RE EXPECTING. YEAH. THE START TIME WOULD BE, YEAH, THE START TIME WOULD BE NOT NOT ELIGIBLE TO BE KIND OF WAIT, YOU KNOW, TO WAIT UNTIL THE 1ST OF JANUARY, FOR INSTANCE. BUT AND THEN SO MUCH IS GOING TO DEPEND ON WHEN ARE THE TICKETS REQUESTED? HOW YOU KNOW, HOW IS IT, YOU KNOW, MID-DECEMBER AND WE'RE SEEING THE HIGH NUMBERS OR IS IT MORE AROUND, YOU KNOW, AS THE EVENT GETS CLOSER, THAT'S A LITTLE HARDER. THE FOOD IS THE EASIEST THING TO MANIPULATE AND ADJUST AT THE LAST MINUTE. WHICH IS A PRETTY HEAVY NUMBER THERE ON THE ON THE RIGHT SIDE. YEAH. AS THE NUMBER. SO. OKAY, SO EVEN EVEN DECIDING TO MOVE TO THE HILL PERFORMANCE HALL, WE'RE TALKING 900 EXTRA PRODUCTION COST AND 5000 ISH ON THE RENTAL. FOR, FOR, AND WE'RE HOPING TO GET MORE THAN 600, I GUESS, TO TRY TO GET. WE COULD ALSO LOOK AT IT AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET MORE PEOPLE. COUNCIL MEMBER SERAFINI. THANK YOU. MAYOR, CAN YOU GO TO THE PREVIOUS SLIDE? SURE. NO. I'M SORRY, THE PREVIOUS ONE, BANK OF AMERICA. SO TECHNICALLY BANK OF AMERICA WITH OVERFLOW AND EVERYTHING, YOU COULD HAVE 700 PEOPLE THERE, RIGHT? YEP. 700 WOULD BE THE TOTAL BETWEEN THE MAIN SEATING AND THE OVERFLOW OVERFLOW AS SET UP LAST YEAR. RIGHT. SO, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE THAT IN BANK OF AMERICA, THEN WITH OVERFLOW, IT COULD GO 700 AND OUT OF THIS. YOU KNOW, WE HAD WHAT, 350, 325. SO OUT OF THIS. 325 DO YOU HAVE ANY NUMBERS THAT YOU COULD SHARE THAT. HOW MANY ARE CITY EMPLOYEE THAT SHOWED UP? PROBABLY 70 TO 80.

70, 80. WELL, I MEAN, YOU GUYS SEE THEM CLOSE TO 100. YEAH. SO AND THEY'RE LIKE, SO BASICALLY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 250 MAYBE ACTUALLY CAME FROM FROM OUTSIDE. YEAH. I MEAN, I THINK IT DIFFERS YEAR TO YEAR DEPENDING ON WHO WE'RE RECOGNIZING. I MEAN, SOMETIMES YOU'LL HAVE A VERY LARGE POLICE AND FIRE PRESENCE, BUT ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS, MOST OF THE

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ASSISTANT DEPARTMENT HEADS, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S EXPECTED THAT THEY PARTICIPATE. SO IT IS EXPECTED. SO THAT'S WHY NOW WE CAN CHANGE THAT IF YOU WANT. SO THAT THAT NUMBERS LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF SOMETHING HAPPENED THAT COULD BE MANAGED, THAT TICKET COULD BE MANAGED. I, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M WORRY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE A FULL OR DECENT AMOUNT FILL UP, I'D RATHER SEE THAT IF I SEE THAT LIKE IN A, IN A 1000. I KNOW THIS IS THE SAME CONCERN WE HAD BEFORE, BUT I'M THE ONE ACTUALLY PUT THE MORE BUDGET. I WAS REALLY, YOU KNOW, THINKING THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE 700 PEOPLE, AT LEAST 800 PEOPLE AT LEAST, WE DON'T WANT TO TELL THEM THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE ROOM. SO THAT WAS REALLY MY OH, I UNDERSTAND. SO YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. I MEAN, IF, IF, IF THERE WAS A, I THINK, I THINK LET ME PLAY IT BACK. I THINK WHAT YOU'RE ASKING IS WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO HAVE THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND CITY STAFF SIT IN THE OVERFLOW. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? SIT IN THE OVERFLOW IF WE NEEDED SEATS. YEAH, YEAH. I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE FINE. YEAH. THIS IS JUST FOR DISCUSSION. YEAH, I THINK I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY, AND I AGREE IT SHOULD BE FOR DISCUSSION. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHAT YOU'RE ASKING PEOPLE TO DO IS IN THESE SCENARIOS, I MEAN, THESE WERE NOT I AM APPRECIATIVE OF THE EFFORT. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEY'RE WATCHING IT ON TV AND THEY JUST GET TO LIKE HANG OUT WITH US AFTERWARDS, RIGHT? IF THEY'RE SITTING OUT IN THE, IN THESE, IN ONE OF THESE SPACES, THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ACTUALLY BEING IN THE HALL WHEN IT'S HAPPENING AND SEEING THE THINGS LIVE VERSUS WATCHING IT ON TV, WHICH IS BASICALLY THE, THE DIFFERENCE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE. SO, YOU KNOW, NOW LET ME ASK YOU ANOTHER QUESTION THAT IS PRETTY STUPID QUESTION ON MY SIDE, BUT YOU HAVE TO EXCUSE ME FOR THAT.

YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THIS STATE OF THE UNION? I MEAN, WHO ARE WE TRYING TO ATTRACT? THAT'S THAT'S THE THING IS THERE IS THAT SOMETHING THAT DON YOU CAN SAY THAT. WHO WHO WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM? DEFINITELY. AND WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE THEM DEFINITELY AT THE AUDIENCE. OF COURSE, WE WANT TO ATTRACT EVERYONE. THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT MY POINT. BUT END OF THE DAY, IT'S ALSO LIKE IT'S ABOUT BUSINESS, RIGHT? THAT'S HOW I LOOK AT IT. I'M SURE I RUN A BUSINESS. I LOOK FOR A BUSINESS. IF I, I TELL MY CHILDREN THAT IF I, IF I SPEND $1, I EXPECT THAT AT LEAST $2, $2.50 COME BACK. AND IF THAT MEANS LUXURY ITEM, I DO THAT.

BUT I EXPECT THAT I'M GOING TO MAKE MONEY OFF IT. THAT'S WHAT MY. THAT'S WHAT I THINK. SO SO I'M JUST SAYING THAT IF WE SPEND THAT, YOU KNOW, $2 THERE, WHAT'S THE RETURN? I THINK THE RETURN IS HARD TO. I THINK THE DIRECT BENEFIT RETURN IS HARD TO ARTICULATE. I THINK THERE IS A SUBSTANTIAL INTANGIBLE BENEFIT. I THINK WE DO THIS BETTER THAN ANY CITY IN NORTH TEXAS. SO I THINK THERE ARE MANY AUDIENCES. YOU KNOW, I COULD I COULD ANSWER THAT QUESTION FOR MYSELF AND SAY WHAT AUDIENCES I HOPE TO, BUT I THINK THAT COULD BE VERY DIFFERENT. YOU EACH COULD HAVE YOUR OWN, YOU KNOW, SET OF AUDIENCES THAT YOU THINK ARE IMPORTANT. SO I, I THINK THAT I THINK I'D JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT. IT IS THE BEST SHOW, AT LEAST IN THE REGION, IF NOT IN THE COUNTRY. I MEAN, I'VE SHOWED THIS TO 3 OTHER MAYORS FROM AROUND THE COUNTRY THAT I WENT THROUGH A PROGRAM WITH. NOT ONE OF THEM, YOU KNOW, WASN'T IMPRESSED. THEY WERE ALL BLOWN AWAY WITH WHAT WE WERE DOING. THE ONLY QUESTION IS, DO WE GIVE 420 PEOPLE THE CHANCE TO SEE IT LIVE, OR IS THERE A CHANCE THAT 1600 COULD. AND I KNOW IN THE PAST, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO WHEN WE BUILD THIS THING, WHEN WE BUILD THE SCRIPT, WHEN WE BUILD EVERYTHING ELSE IS WE'RE BUILDING IT FOR MULTIPLE AUDIENCES. WE'RE BUILDING IT SO THAT THE RESIDENTS CAN KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON AND BE EXCITED ABOUT IT. BUT WE'RE ALSO WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ELEMENT TO THIS, WHERE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS PROMOTE OUR CITY AND SEE IF WE CAN'T GET PEOPLE EXCITED ABOUT IT. SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE'VE BUDGETED THE TEN GRAND. THE QUESTION IS, DO WE USE IT OR NOT? AND IF WE END UP SOMEHOW WITH 400 PEOPLE, THEN WE PUT THOSE 400 PEOPLE AT THE FRONT OF THIS, YOU KNOW, IN FRONT OF THE STAGE IN THAT AREA THAT YOU SAW THAT IS ALREADY PERFECT FOR IT. AND YES, WE MADE IT GO AN HOUR AND A HALF. WE STARTED AN HOUR AND A HALF LATER. BUT IF, IF WE SUCCEED, WHICH WE BUILD THINGS IDEALLY, SO WE CAN SUCCEED, IF WE SUCCEED AND WE GET 800 DOUBLE WHAT WE HAD BEFORE, THEN THAT'S DOUBLE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE THAT KIND OF IMPRESSION ABOUT OUR CITY FIRSTHAND. SO THAT'S THAT'S REALLY WHAT'S AT STAKE. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE 1600 THERE. BUT BUT, YOU KNOW, BUT I DON'T WANT TO SEE HALF EMPTY THE ROOM BECAUSE IT GIVES A VERY BAD IMPRESSION.

YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HAVE LIKE LOTS OF EMPTY SEATS. AND THAT'S MY CONCERN. AND THAT'S THE

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THING THAT, YOU KNOW, LIKE, YOU KNOW, I'D LOVE TO HAVE MORE PEOPLE AND I WANT, YOU KNOW, THE FOOD IS IMPORTANT. YOU KNOW, I'M PICKING UP, I'M PICKY ABOUT MY OWN FOOD, BUT I THINK FOOD IS IMPORTANT. THAT SHOWS THAT WHAT WE ARE CUTTING THE FOOD IS NOT REALLY SOMETHING I WOULD, YOU KNOW, MY, MY, MY, MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD NOT BE LIKE, CUT THE, YOU KNOW, MAKE THE FOOD QUALITY DOWN GREAT. SO ANYTHING UPGRADE, THAT'S BECAUSE WE ARE TRYING TO SELL OUR CITY TO DIFFERENT GROUPS. SO I THINK WE NEED TO KEEP THAT. AND THAT WOULD BE MY CONCERN.

PERFECT. THERE'S NO THERE'S NO DISCUSSION YET ABOUT LOWERING THE QUALITY OF THE FOOD. WE WERE ONLY SUGGESTING THAT IF YOU SOLD 1200 TICKETS, THAT YOU WOULD USE A 0.7 MULTIPLIER TO FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH FOOD YOU SHOULD ORDER FOR JUST BECAUSE USUALLY THERE'S 60% OF THE PEOPLE THAT SHOW UP. SO THERE'S NO ONE'S TALKING ABOUT LESS QUALITY FOOD. IT'S ABSOLUTELY I MEAN, LET ME CLARIFY THIS THING. SO IF THERE IS A SHORTAGE ON THE FOOD, I, YOU KNOW, BRINGING PEOPLE AND THERE IS NO FOOD, THAT'S MY CONCERN. PARKING. YOU CANNOT TAKE A CHANCE BECAUSE FOOD IS FOOD IS GONE, FOOD IS GONE. YOU CAN COME UP WITH AN EXCUSE, BUT PARKING, YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS A PARKING SO THAT PEOPLE DON'T TURN AWAY FROM THE EVENT. SO THESE ARE THE LOGISTICS. I THINK THE CITY STAFF CAN REALLY HAVE MORE SAY. AND YOU KNOW, I CAN HAVE MY EMOTIONAL SAY THAT, YES, I'D LOVE TO SEE 2000 PEOPLE, BUT WHAT CAN YOU DO LOGISTICALLY, PRACTICALLY, COUNCILMEMBER JUSTICE. YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK THIS SCENARIO IS NOT IDEAL IF WE'RE GOING TO SHOOT FOR THE MOON AND WE SHOOT FOR THE MOON, I DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD DO IT SORT OF PIECEMEAL AND SORT OF SAY, YEAH, WE WANT TO GET 800, 700 OR WHATEVER. YEAH, 700, BUT WE'RE GOING TO SEE MOST OF THEM IN THE LOBBY. LIKE, I DON'T THINK WE DO THAT. SO WE'RE EITHER ALL IN OR WE'RE NOT. AND SO I THINK IF IF WE'RE IN ON GOING TO HILL HALL, THEN I THINK WE GO TO HILL HALL. I DON'T THINK WE BABY STEP THIS AND HAVE HALF OF OUR AUDIENCE NOT ACTUALLY IN THE AUDIENCE. AND SO MY, MY ONLY CONCERN IS WE BUDGETED $35,000. SO AS MUCH AS WE WANT TO HAVE ALL THE FOOD IN THE WORLD, THAT'S THE PLACE IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO COME FROM. AND SO THE BUDGET'S $35,000. FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO IT. AND HILL PERFORMANCE HALL, THAT'S MY DIRECTION TO STAFF. AND YOU KNOW, WE THE FOOD WILL HAVE TO SUFFER, I GUESS. OR IF YOU ALL HAVE FOLKS THAT WANT TO DONATE FOOD, GREAT. AND WE CAN MAKE IT LUSH AND WONDERFUL. THAT'S FANTASTIC. I THINK THOUGH, IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS, IT'S INCUMBENT ON ALL OF US TO MAKE SURE IT SUCCEEDS. THE ONLY THING THAT SHOULD MAKE IT NOT SUCCEED IS THAT THERE'S ANOTHER WEATHER EVENT, AND IT IS WHAT IT IS, AND THAT'S OUT OF OUR CONTROL. BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO DECIDE TO DO THIS, IT'S NOT THE MAYOR'S SHOW. IT'S ALL OF OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE FILL THIS HILL PERFORMANCE HALL. SO I WOULD SAY IF WE'RE DOING IT, LET'S ALL GET BEHIND IT AND LET'S GET AS MANY PEOPLE IN THAT ROOM AS WE POSSIBLY CAN. I FULLY ENDORSE WHAT YOU JUST SAID, ESPECIALLY THE NOT NOT THE MAYOR SHOW, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ALL ON MY OWN TO TRY AND BRING PEOPLE OUT THERE. I THINK IT'LL IT'LL SUCCEED BECAUSE WE'RE ALL ACTIVELY TRYING. AND THE GOOD NEWS IS, BECAUSE THERE'S 1600 SEATS, THERE'S NOT A REASON TO SAY, OH, LET'S NOT TRY SO HARD BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE FULL. WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY FILL SOMETHING BIG. I DON'T THINK THE PEOPLE SHOW UP FOR THE FOOD. SO IF WE WIND UP WITH 1600 PEOPLE AND NO FOOD, I STILL THINK THAT'S A WIN. I DO TOO. ALL RIGHT. SO. COUNCILMEMBER JUSTICE KIND OF PUT A THING TOGETHER THERE, WHICH I AGREE WITH. SO THERE'S TWO OF US AT LEAST THAT AGREE. SO HILL HALL, WE ASK CITY STAFF TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO KIND OF KEEP US IN BUDGET IDEALLY. ARE THERE MAJOR OBJECTIONS TO DOING IT THAT WAY? YES. MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHENRIDER I'M JUST I'M THINKING AGAIN, WE TALK A LOT ABOUT PILOTS AND PROOF. IF YOU GO BACK TO THE OTHER SLIDE FOR A MINUTE, DON, I JUST I HAVE A THOUGHT AND I JUST WANT TO THROW IT OUT THERE. AND IF EVERYBODY DISAGREES WITH IT, GREAT. SORRY. ONE MORE. OKAY. AVERAGE ATTENDANCE HAS BEEN 325. DON SAID THAT THERE'S ABOUT 75 STAFF MEMBERS. THAT TAKES IT DOWN TO 250 OF ACTUALLY PEOPLE FROM THE STREET COMING OUT AND BEING IN ATTENDANCE. IF WE THAT. 730 IS WHAT I'M JUST REALLY FOCUSING IN ON THAT. THAT REALLY HAS ME CONCERNED. SO WHETHER WE DO IT IN. I MEAN, WOULD A THOUGHT BE TO KEEP IT ONE MORE YEAR IN BANK OF AMERICA? ASK DIRECTORS, ASSISTANT DIRECTORS. ET CETERA.

ET CETERA. TO STAND BY IF WE HONESTLY GET 600 BECAUSE I THINK WE COULD GO 600 AND STILL SAY IT, STAY AT 6 P.M. AND IF WE DID SIX, AND IF WE LITERALLY GOT 600 TICKETS OUT, THEN WE JUST SIMPLY ASKED, STAFF, PLEASE WATCH FROM TV THIS YEAR. AND WE COULD KEEP IT AT 6:00,

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BECAUSE I DO THINK WE'RE GOING TO LOSE A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT WE WANT THERE BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO LEAVE WORK, THEY'RE GOING TO GO HOME AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE LIKE, OH, I GOT TO GET BACK OUT AND GO, GO AT 730. I THINK THERE IS A. AND I ALSO AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE SENIORS AND THE STUDENTS. SO IF WE WANT TO MAKE A PUSH TO GET SENIORS THERE, MAKE A PUSH TO GET STUDENTS THERE, COULD WE CONSIDER STAYING AT 6:00 ASKING STAFF TO STAND BY? IF WE END UP WITH 500 FREE TICKETS, THEN WE SAY TO DON, THERE'S 100 SLOTS. WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHICH 100 STAFF MEMBERS ATTEND. AND KEEP IT AT 6 P.M. THAT'S THAT'S JUST THE BIG THE BIG ISSUE FOR ME, I'M NOT AS WORRIED ABOUT THE COST, ETCETERA, ETCETERA. I'M JUST MOVING IT FROM 6 TO 7. 30 HAS MY CONCERNS BECAUSE THAT PUSHES IT TILL 9:00. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, BY THEN THERE'S REALLY THEN THERE'S THE OTHER THE OTHER COMPONENT IS, IS THAT 9 P.M. AT NIGHT, EVERYBODY'S GOING TO LEAVE AND THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE RECEPTION. AND I THINK THE RECEPTION HAS ALSO BEEN A POWERFUL THING THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST. PEOPLE, IF WE GO FROM 6 TO 7, 30, PEOPLE WILL STAY BEHIND. THERE IS THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT RECEPTION, 9:00, NINE, TEN, WHATEVER TIME WE END, IT'S I'M NOT TRYING TO MONITOR THAT, BUT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GO HOME. THE RECEPTION IS NOT GOING TO BE AS POWERFUL AS IT'S BEEN IN THE PAST. AND I JUST THINK THAT'S A POWERFUL PIECE OF IT. SO THAT 6 TO 730 BOTHERS ME MORE THAN ANYTHING.

AND SO I JUST I JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE BECAUSE THAT WOULD GIVE US AN ADDITIONAL 75. WE'VE AVERAGED 325 TAKES IT DOWN TO 250. THAT GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO GROW. WHAT? 253 ALMOST. I THOUGHT IT WAS 6:00. IS IT 6 OR 630? IT WAS AT SIX. I THOUGHT IT WAS AT SIX. BUT I COULD BE WRONG. ANYWAY, THAT 730 IS THAT 9 P.M. IT'S THAT THAT LATE NIGHT ASPECTS OF THAT THAT AS FAR AS HOW MANY PEOPLE WE LOSE AND THEN THE RECEPTION AFTERWARDS, BECAUSE WE REALLY WOULD LOSE THE RECEPTION. I DON'T THINK THERE'S I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY WAY THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU GO FROM 730 TO A LITTLE AFTER NINE AND I THINK PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GOING TO WALK ON OUT. SO THAT'S MY QUESTION IS, DO WE TRY IT ONE MORE YEAR, SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE WE CAN GET TURNED OUT AT THE 6 OR 630 WHATEVER TIME AND KIND OF KEEP THE SAME, THE SAME, YOU KNOW, THE SIX, 600, BUT ASK THE STAFF TO STAND BY AND NOT GET FREE TICKETS TO BEGIN WITH. 636 30 SO. 630 BEFORE. YEAH. AND, AND SO JUST FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, AGAIN, EVERY ICEMAN SHOW THAT HAPPENS DURING THE WEEK STARTS AT 730. A BUNCH OF US HAVE BEEN TO A LOT OF THE ICEMAN SHOWS. I THINK WE CAN PROBABLY AGREE THAT THE AUDIENCE THAT GOES TO A LOT OF THOSE ICEMAN SHOWS DURING THE WEEK AT 730 INCLUDE PEOPLE WHO MIGHT BE IN THEIR SENIOR YEARS. AND SO I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S GOING TO BE SO MUCH OF A DIFFICULTY, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT'S WHY THIS IS A PILOT. IF WE DID IT AND IF WE DID IT DIFFERENTLY, I'M NOT GOING TO GO ALL OUT AND TRY AND FILL THE MEZZANINE AND ALL THIS OTHER STUFF. IF IF THE POINT IS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO WATCH IT ON TV OR THAT SOMEONE'S GOING TO BE WATCHING IT ON TV. SO ME, ME PERSONALLY, I JUST IF WE'RE GOING TO TRY THIS, LET'S TRY IT ONE TIME. IF IT FAILS, NO BIG DEAL. WE JUST GO RIGHT BACK TO THE BOAT THE WAY WE'VE ALWAYS DONE IT BEFORE. AND IF IT SUCCEEDS, THEN IT SUCCEEDS AND WE HAVE THAT MANY MORE EYEBALLS WATCHING THIS. NO, DON'T. DON'T MISUNDERSTAND ME. I WAS SUGGESTING WE MOVE TO HILL, BUT WE'D GO AT 600 THIS YEAR AS A AS A TRIAL. THAT WAS THAT WAS MY O TO THE HILL BECAUSE WE COULD GO BECAUSE ACCORDING TO THE OTHER SLIDE, WE COULD STILL. OH, I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. MOVE IT TO HILL, HAVE THE 600.

BECAUSE THEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GOING FROM. IN ESSENCE, IF I'M IF I'M DOING DON'S NUMBERS, WE'RE GOING FROM 250 TO 600. THAT'S THREE, ALMOST THREE TIMES THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT WE'RE GETTING RIGHT NOW. IF WE EXCLUDE STAFF FOR A MOMENT. SO MY SUGGESTION WAS MOVE IT TO HILL, GO FOR THE 600 THIS YEAR, KEEP IT AT 630. IF WE IF WE GET HONESTLY FULL 100% 600 PEOPLE, THEN NEXT YEAR WE GO TO WE GO TO HILL AND AND WE WE MOVE IT TO 730 AND PILOT THAT THAT THAT WAS MY SUGGESTION. FAIR ENOUGH. SO LET'S JUST TALK. SORRY, THAT WAS JUST NO, NO, THAT'S A GOOD SUGGESTION. LET'S JUST TALK THROUGH THAT THOUGH. 600. SO DOES THAT MEAN THAT THEY STOP SELLING TICKETS AT 600. BECAUSE IF BECAUSE IF IF THE NUMBERS PROVE OUT TO BE WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN, WHICH IS FREE TICKETS SHOW UP AT 60%, THAT MEANS YOU'D SELL A THOUSAND TICKETS TO GET TO 600. SO THEN DO WE WANT TO CAP IT AT 1000? BUT THEN DO WE SELL A THOUSAND TICKETS, ASSUMING WE'RE GOING TO GET 60% AND THEN POSSIBLY RUN OUT OF PARKING BECAUSE WE DIDN'T PLAN FOR THAT. NOW, IF WE ONLY SELL 600 TICKETS, THEN

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WE HAVE A SCENARIO WHERE IF IT'S THE WAY IT ALWAYS IS AND 60% OF THE PEOPLE SHOW UP, AND THAT WOULD BE 360. AND THEN WE'VE FAILED OUR OWN PILOT BECAUSE WE CAPPED IT AT 600.

THESE ARE JUST THINGS TO THINK ABOUT. I'M NOT I'M NOT SAYING YES OR NO. I'M JUST SAYING THOSE ARE THE THINGS WE MIGHT WANT TO THINK ABOUT IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS. ALL RIGHT.

WE'VE GOT OTHER LIGHTS ON. SO COUNCIL MEMBER CORCORAN. YEAH. I MEAN, MAYOR, I THINK YOU'VE TOLD US YOUR PLANS TO DRIVE ATTENDANCE, AND I THINK WE SHOULD GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO DEMONSTRATE THAT DEMAND. IF THAT DEMAND IS 1600 PEOPLE, THAT'S I WANT TO GIVE YOU THAT CHANCE TO DO THAT. AND OF COURSE, WE ALL HELP WHERE WE CAN. IT'S NOT FOR SHOW, RIGHT.

AND SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, IF IT STARTS AT 730, I MEAN, MAYBE THAT GIVES US A CHANCE TO CUT THE FOOD BUDGET DOWN A LITTLE BIT AND PEOPLE CAN EAT BEFORE. YEAH, I THINK PEOPLE WILL EAT BEFORE BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE PROBABLY WON'T WAIT TILL 730, BUT WE'LL STILL HAVE A NICE SPREAD. AND THE QUESTION WILL JUST BE WHETHER THE SPREADS BEFORE OR AFTER. COUNCIL MEMBER DORAN. YEAH, I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THE TIME AGAIN. I, I THINK WE ALWAYS STARTED AT SIX BECAUSE THERE WAS A RECEPTION PRIOR AND THEN THE EVENT WAS AT 630. IS THAT CORRECT? SO PEOPLE DID GET THERE AFTER WORK. AND I THINK THAT'S A BIG CONCERN FOR ME TOO, BECAUSE, I MEAN, I THINK ALL OF US DON'T WANT TO LEAVE THE OFFICE, GO HOME, YOU KNOW, AND COME BACK AT SEVEN OR, YOU KNOW, WELL, IN THIS CASE, I GUESS WE HAVE TO BE BACK AROUND SEVEN OR SO TO GET READY FOR 730 PERFORMANCE. BUT I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE EARLIER TIME FRAME THAT WE'VE HAD AND KEPT FOR MANY YEARS WORKS AND PEOPLE TEND TO LEAVE THEIR OFFICE AND, AND OR HOME OR WHATEVER AND COME OUT EARLIER. AND THAT GETS US OUT OF THERE AT 730 TO 8.

ARE WE PLANNING ON DOING THIS FOR ANOTHER HOUR, HOUR AND A HALF AGAIN THIS YEAR? IT'LL BE THE SAME AS IT WAS BEFORE, RIGHT? IT'S A LITTLE OVER LAST TIME. YEAH, I THINK, I MEAN, IDEALLY THE 75 MINUTES IS IS IDEAL. THAT'S WHAT WE TRY TO HOLD TO. WE'RE MAKING A CONCERTED EFFORT TO, YOU KNOW, REDUCE THE LENGTH OF SOME OF THE VIDEOS THIS YEAR. BUT IDEALLY, 75 MINUTES IS THE IS THE PROGRAM OKAY? YEAH, I LIKE I SAID, IF, IF WE WERE GOING TO DO THIS, I STILL THINK THE TIME FRAME 730, I THINK IS JUST TOO LATE FOR, FOR ME. YES, I AGREE THAT PEOPLE DO GO TO THE ICEMAN TO SEE A PERFORMANCE AT 730. THAT'S GENERALLY THOUGH, ON A WEEKEND. THIS IS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE WEEK AND I THINK WE NEED TO BE RESPECTFUL OF EVERYONE'S TIME. OKAY, I THINK WE'LL GET A BETTER TURNOUT ACTUALLY. OKAY. SO WHAT WE HAVE SO FAR IS WE'VE GOT COUNCIL MEMBER, JUSTICE COUNCIL MEMBER CORCORAN AND MYSELF SAYING, ALL IN 730 WE GO TO THE MAIN THEATER AND WE SELL AS MANY AS WE CAN. I NEED ONE OTHER PERSON TO SAY THAT THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE AT, AND THEN WE CAN MOVE ON. OR IF I CAN'T GET ONE MORE PERSON, THEN WE JUST KEEP IT EXACTLY AS IT WAS AND AND MOVE ON. BUT WE STILL HAVE ANOTHER ACTION ITEM ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT. SO I'D LOVE TO BE ABLE TO START MOVING ON. COUNCIL MEMBER FEENEY YOU COULD BE A HERO OR YOU COULD HAVE A QUESTION. NO, I HAVE AN OPINION. OKAY. YOU KNOW, IF WE GO TO THE HILL PERFORMANCE ROOM, THEN I THINK I KNOW I'M NOT INTERESTED. JUST 600. THE ROOM WILL LOOK PRETTY. NOT NOT FILLED. IT'S GOING TO BE LOOK REALLY OPEN A LOT. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THERE LIKE 800 PEOPLE MAYBE, YOU KNOW, NOT LESS. SO I DON'T KNOW. I'D RATHER SEE ROOM FULL AND CROWD AND PEOPLE TALK ABOUT IT THAT YEAH, THERE WAS LOTS OF PEOPLE. AND OTHERWISE IF YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, EMPTY ROOM, THEN THAT'S WHEN THAT DISCUSSION GOES THAT OKAY, YEAH, IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING WAS OFF. SO THAT'S, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S MY CONCERN. SO THAT MEANS YOU'RE GOING TO TRY EXTRA HARD AND YOU'RE GOING TO HELP US FILL THE 1600 AND WE'RE GOING TO BE GOOD TO GO. WELL, ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S THE POINT. BUT THE THING IS IF THERE IS A IF IF THE TICKET, LIKE IF YOU STOP IT CERTAIN LEVEL, THEN THAT NO, WE WOULD NOT STOP IT. WE'RE EITHER GOING ALL IN ON THE HILL OR WE'RE JUST GOING TO DO THE BOAT THE WAY THAT WE HAVE EVERY YEAR THAT WILL. I THINK THE BUDGET WILL ALSO GO UP. THE BUDGET WILL. HE'LL FIGURE OUT THE BUDGET. YEAH. SO THE QUESTION IS JUST DO WE WANT TO GO ALL OUT ON THE HILL RIGHT NOW? I WOULD HOLD IT BECAUSE I THINK THERE ARE SOME OTHER THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, CAME UP THAT LATE NIGHT. SOME GROUP MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO SHOW UP. SO I REALLY LIKE TO HEAR SOME FEEDBACK, SOME OTHER THINGS BEFORE, OKAY, SOME DECISION. THERE'S NO OTHER LIGHTS ON, BUT OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE. YEAH, I JUST THINK IT'S SILLY. EITHER YOU'RE IN OR YOU'RE OUT.

YOU WANT TO GO TO THE HILL OR YOU DON' BUT THIS IS THE TIME. EITHER WE LIKE IT OR WE DON'T.

I DON'T THINK IT'S COMPLICATED. AND I THINK THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO DO IT, WE ALL HAVE TO BE IN ON IT. I MEAN, IT JUST IS WHAT IT IS. LIKE. THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY. IF WE CAN GET 1000 PEOPLE TO SHOW UP FOR THE STATE OF THE CITY. BUT IF YOU DON'T FEEL CONFIDENT THAT YOU CAN BRING AN EXTRA 50 PEOPLE OR WHATEVER TO SHOW UP AND THAT WE'RE GOING TO FALL FLAT ON OUR FACE, THEN WE DON'T DO IT. BUT I THINK WE'RE BETTER THAN THAT. SO LET'S JUST ALL COMMIT TO DO

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IT AND LET'S TRY IT. WE MAY GET 600 PEOPLE, WE MAY GET 1000. BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO TRY IT, LET'S TRY IT. YES, COUNCILMEMBER BURDETT. YEAH, I SAY WE GO FOR IT. ALL RIGHT.

WE'VE GOT FOUR. WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GO ALL OUT. WE'LL BE AT THE HILL AND WE'LL START AT 730 AND WE'LL MOVE ON. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER BURDETT. ALL RIGHT. AT THIS TIME WE ARE

[8. REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE AND BOARD LIAISON ASSIGNMENTS]

GOING TO MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, WHICH IS. YEAH. REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE AND BOARD LIAISON ASSIGNMENTS. WE HAD OBVIOUSLY, THE DEPARTURE OF COUNCIL MEMBER BARRIOS, IF YOU DON'T MIND PASSING THAT ON, WHAT I AS I LOOKED AT KIND OF THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE ANY CHANGES, I THINK THE BIGGEST THING THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO ME WAS JUST KEEPING THINGS AS STABLE AS THEY POSSIBLY COULD BE. SO WHAT I DID WAS I WENT AHEAD AND ASSIGNED COUNCIL MEMBER BURDETTE TO EACH OF THE SAME COMMITTEES THAT COUNCIL MEMBER BARRIOS HAD PREVIOUSLY BEEN IN CHARGE OR BEEN BEEN AT PREVIOUSLY. COUNCIL MEMBER BARRIOS WAS THE CHAIR OF THE BUSINESS COMMITTEE, AND WHAT I CHOSE TO DO IN TERMS OF THE CHAIR POSITION WAS TO TAKE SOMEONE WHO HAD EXPERIENCE BEING THE CHAIR OF THE BUSINESS COMMITTEE, WHICH COUNCIL MEMBER SERAFINI HAD CHAIRED IT PREVIOUSLY, SO I'VE ASKED HIM TO CHAIR IT BECAUSE I DID NOT WANT TO HAVE SOMEONE CHAIRING TWO DIFFERENT COMMITTEES. I ASKED MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHENRIDER IF HE WOULD CHAIR THE EDUCATION COMMITTEE, AND SO COUNCIL MEMBER BURDETTE, YOU WILL BE TAKING ON THE LIBRARY BOARD, YOU WILL BE ON THE BUSINESS COMMITTEE, AND YOU WILL BE ON THE AUDIT COMMITTEE. AND THEN THE ONLY OTHER CHANGE ARE THE TWO CHAIRS OF THE EDUCATION AND BUSINESS COMMITTEES BEING COUNCIL MEMBER ARIFFIEN AS THE BUSINESS COMMITTEE CHAIR, BECAUSE HE HAD HAD THAT EXPERIENCE BEFORE. AND I JUST WANTED TO FINISH WITH PEOPLE WHO'VE ALREADY DONE THE JOBS AND THE EDUCATION COMMITTEE CHAIR BEING MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHENRIDER. IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO TAKE THEM. OTHERWISE WE WILL. DO WE DO WE NEED TO VOTE ON THIS OR. OKAY, I DIDN'T THINK SO. SO ALL RIGHT. IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER NINE, WHICH IS A

[9. PUBLIC HEARING, ZONING FILE ZF 26-18, AND CONSIDER ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF RICHARDSON, TEXAS, AMENDING THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE AND ZONING MAP OF THE CITY OF RICHARDSON, AS HERETOFORE AMENDED, BY AMENDING AND RESTATING IN THEIR ENTIRETY THE DEVELOPMENT AND USE REGULATIONS OF PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT COLLINS/ARAPAHO TOD & INNOVATION DISTRICT FORM BASED CODE AS SET FORTH IN EXHIBIT “B” OF ORDINANCE NO. 4322, AND AS AMENDED BY ORDINANCE NO. 4537, SAID REGULATIONS RELATING TO THE DEVELOPMENT AND USE OF 1,144± ACRES GENERALLY BOUNDED BY CAMPBELL ROAD, PLANO ROAD, APOLLO ROAD, CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY, AND GREENVILLE AVENUE]

PUBLIC HEARING ZONING FILE 26-18. MR. MAGNER, THANK YOU, MAYOR. OUR SENIOR PLANNER, DEREK PETERS, IS GOING TO LEAD THE BRIEFING ON. I WANT TO THANK TINA, OUR DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, AND ANOTHER FIRST DAY TODAY. I WANT TO WELCOME CAITLIN STRICKLAND.

SHE'S OUR NEW ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. CAITLIN'S JOINING US FROM MCKINNEY. A LONG, VERY SUCCESSFUL CAREER AND PLANNING. AND SO CAITLIN, WELCOME TO THE CITY. VERY HAPPY TO HAVE YOU. MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THIS IS A FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD REQUEST FROM THE CITY. YOU'VE ALREADY PREVIOUSLY TWICE NOW ADOPTED THESE EXACT SAME STANDARDS CITY WIDE AND IN IN ANOTHER PD. AND ALL WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS CLEAN UP THE THE O'COLLINS PD SO THAT IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THOSE STANDARDS. AND SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO DEREK. AND DEREK WILL RUN US THROUGH THE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU, MR. MAGNER. THIS IS ZONING FILE 2618. THIS IS A CITY INITIATED AMENDMENT TO THE COLLINS ARAPAHO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT CODE. THIS IS SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO FLAG CORPORATE AND LOGO SIGNAGE AND ASSOCIATED DEFINITIONS. AND ALSO AS PART OF THE ZONING CASE, THE ENTIRE CODE IS PROPOSED TO BE AMENDED AND RESTATED AS PART OF A PROCEDURAL NOTE. AND ALSO, THIS GRAPHIC HERE SHOWS THE BOUNDARIES OF THE COLLINS ARAPAHO PD DISTRICT. SO AS DON MENTIONED, THE REGULATIONS FOR FLAGS AND FLAGPOLES HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED BY CITY COUNCIL EARLIER THIS YEAR. OUR REGULATIONS FOR FLAGS AND FLAGPOLES ARE IN THE CODE OF ORDINANCES AS PART OF THE CITY'S SIGN REGULATIONS. IN APRIL OF THIS YEAR, CITY COUNCIL APPROVED AMENDMENTS TO THE CODE RELATED TO FLAGS AND FLAG POLES. AND THEN, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS IN THE CITY THAT HAVE THEIR OWN SET OF SIGNAGE REGULATIONS, WE'VE SUBSEQUENTLY LOOKED AT OTHER PD DISTRICTS THAT WILL THAT WE'VE PROPOSED TO AMEND IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE CODE OF ORDINANCES. SO IN JULY OF THIS YEAR, CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE SAME AMENDMENTS TO THE MAIN STREET CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY FORM BASED CODE. SO THE AMENDMENTS PROPOSED TONIGHT IN THE COLLINS ARAPAHO CODE ARE THE SAME AS WERE PREVIOUSLY CONSIDERED. I WILL GO OVER THOSE. THEY ARE OUTLINED HERE IN THE TABLE IN THE NEXT FEW SLIDES. THE CENTER COLUMN IS THE CURRENT REGULATION, IF THERE IS ONE, AND THEN THE RIGHT COLUMN IS THE PROPOSED REGULATION. SO GOING FORWARD, FLAGS ARE ALLOWED IN ALL TYPES OF LAND USE AREAS AND LAND USE TYPES. GOING FORWARD, FLAGPOLE HEIGHT WILL BE REGULATED FOR SINGLE FAMILY AND TOWN HOME PROPERTIES. THAT IS LIMITED TO 25FT MAX AND FOR ALL OTH PROPERTIES, FLAGPOLES ARE LIMITED TO 40FT. FLAG SIZE WILL

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BE LIMITED GOING FORWARD FOR ALL FLAG TYPES ON SINGLE FAMILY AND TOWNHOME PROPERTIES, THEY ARE LIMITED TO A MAXIMUM AREA OF 25FT■S. ALL OTHER PROPERTIES IS 40FT■S. FLAG AND FLAGPOLE QUANTITY WILL BE REGULATED GOING FORWARD, AND THIS WILL DEPEND ON THE TYPE OF PROPERTY IF IT FALLS IN THIS FIRST CATEGORY OF PROPERTY. IF IT'S OVER TEN ACRES WITH TWO OR MORE STREET FRONTAGES AND IS NONRESIDENTIAL OR MIXED USE, THOSE TYPES OF PROPERTIES ARE ALLOWED UP TO SIX FLAGPOLES AND SIX FLAGS. ALL OTHER PROPERTIES ARE ALLOWED UP TO THREE FLAGPOLES AND THREE FLAGS, AND THEN OF THE ALLOWED FLAG AND FLAGPOLES FOR CORPORATE FLAGS.

SPECIFICALLY, IF THE PROPERTY FALLS WITHIN THAT FIRST CATEGORY, THEY ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE TWO FLAGPOLES FLYING CORPORATE FLAGS. ALL OTHER PROPERTIES ARE LIMITED TO ONE FLAGPOLE FLYING A CORPORATE FLAG. THE LOCATION OF FLAGS WILL BE REGULATED GOING FORWARD SO THAT A SITE PLAN IS REQUIRED. ALSO, A FLAGPOLE SHALL BE SET BACK FROM THE PROPERTY LINES AT A DISTANCE EQUAL TO OR GREATER THAN THE HEIGHT OF THE FLAGPOLE. AND THE FLAGPOLE SHALL NOT BE LOCATED IN AN EASEMENT, AND FLAGPOLES GREATER THAN 25FT IN HEIGHT ARE ALSO REQUIRED TO GET A BUILDING PERMIT. THESE THREE DEFINITIONS WILL BE INCORPORATED INTO THE CODE CONSISTENT WITH THE CODE OF ORDINANCES. AND THAT'S THE FLAG. CORPORATE FLAG AND FLAGPOLE WILL BE DEFINED. AND FINALLY, THIS WAS A PUBLIC HEARING. AND WE ISSUED NOTIFICATION TO ALL PROPERTIES WITHIN THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, AS WELL AS ALL PROPERTIES WITHIN 200FT OF THE DISTRICT. AND WE DID RECEIVE ONE PUBLIC COMMENT IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST. AND THAT COMMENT IS SITTING IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT ON A PRINTOUT, THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL SEVEN ZERO TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST AS PRESENTED. AND TONIGHT, THE CITY COUNCIL MAY APPROVE THE REQUEST AND THE ORDINANCE AS PRESENTED AS AMENDMENT, AS AMENDED OR DENIED THE REQUEST. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. AND SINCE WE DON'T HAVE AN APPLICANT, CITY STAFF CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE TONIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? ALL RIGHT. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. ARE THERE ANY CARDS OR OTHER FOLKS WISHING TO SPEAK? I HAVE NO CARDS, MAYOR. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISHING TO SPEAK? ALL RIGHT, MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHENRIDER. MAYOR, MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. COUNCIL MEMBER CORCORAN. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHENRIDER, A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER CORCORAN. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHENRIDER. IF THERE'S NO DISCUSSION, WHICH I DON'T SEE ANY LIGHTS. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ZONING FILE ZF26-18 AS FILED. COUNCILMEMBER CORCORAN. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHENRIDER, A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER CORCORAN. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'LL MOVE ON TO

[10. REPORT ON ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST]

ITEM NUMBER TEN, WHICH IS REPORT ON ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST. I KNOW THERE WAS A LOT OF COOL STUFF GOING ON. I'D LOVE TO HEAR ALL ABOUT IT. WHO WANTS TO START? MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHENRIDER. WELL, OBVIOUSLY THE BIG THING WE DID LAST WEEK WAS NATIONAL NIGHT OUT. HAD AN AMAZING NATIONAL NIGHT OUT. THE PARTICIPATION WE HAD, THE EVERYONE BEING THERE, ALL THE PARTIES THAT WE GOT AROUND TO. I THINK EVERYONE HAD AN AMAZING NIGHT AND I'M. I'D BE SHOCKED IF WE DIDN'T WIN FIRST PLACE. I'LL JUST SAY THAT I'LL PUT IT OUT THERE NOW. SO. BUT I THOUGHT I THOUGHT EVERYBODY DID A GREAT JOB AND A HUGE THANK YOU TO SERGEANT ALCORN TO TO CHIEF TITTLE, TO HIS ENTIRE STAFF, EVERYONE THAT PARTICIPATED. IT WAS IT WAS A GREAT, GREAT EVENING AND REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE HOES AND ALL THEIR EFFORTS TO GET THEIR THEIR RESIDENTS OUT AND GIVE EVERYONE THE CHANCE TO, TO REALLY PARTICIPATE IN NATIONAL NIGHT OUT. I, EVERY PARTY I WENT TO WAS A SUCCESS. SO THANK YOU, THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER DENT THANK YOU MAYOR. SO NATIONAL NIGHT OUT WAS A BLAST. IT WAS A REALLY ENJOYED THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO OUT AND MEET THE NEIGHBORS AND RIDE ALONG WITH ONE OF THE ASSISTANT CHIEFS AND EXCITEMENT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE WERE ONE OF THE LATER ONES TO COME IN, I THINK AT THE END OF THE EVENING AND HUMONGOUS BINS OF FOOD, I'M SURE WE'LL HEAR A READOUT AT SOME POINT OF THE AMOUNT OF FOOD COLLECTED FOR THE NETWORK SATURDAY EVENING ALSO, OR SATURDAY AFTERNOON. EXCUSE ME, HAD THE JOY OF GOING TO THE STARS OF TEXAS, THE MISS TEXAS REVUE, WHICH I WAS THE FIRST OF THOSE TYPES OF EVENTS THAT I'VE BEEN TO AND REALLY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT, BUT WAS VERY PLEASANTLY SURPRISED. OF COURSE, WE WERE WELCOMING HOME MISS AMERICA, WHO HAD BEEN CROWNED MISS TEXAS JUST A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO AT THE ISEMAN CENTER AND SO GOT TO WELCOME HER BACK TO RICHARDSON, BUT THEN ALSO CROWNED THE NEW MISS TEXAS, WHO IS NOW ASSUMED THAT ROLE. SO LOTS OF VERY TALENTED YOUNG WOMEN PRESENTED ALL SORTS OF TALENTS VIOLIN, DANCE, SINGING. SO YEAH, VERY FUN PROGRAM. AND AND MAYOR DID AN EXCELLENT JOB

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REPRESENTING THE CITY. AND THE PROGRAM WAS VERY COMPLIMENTARY OF THE CITY AND OUR HOSTING OF THE PROGRAM OVER THE MANY YEARS. SO THAT WAS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO, TO GET TO SHARE THE LOVE THERE. AND THEN OF COURSE, WE HAD THE RICHARDSON WOMEN'S CLUB TRIVIA EVENT LATER THAT EVENING.

SO HAD A BLAST THERE AND CELEBRATING WITH OUR NEIGHBORS. AND BOY, I GET IT GETS COMPETITIVE. SO WE HAD A REALLY GOOD TIME AT THAT EVENING EVENT. SO I APPRECIATE BEING INVITED TO THAT. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER ARFIN. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I JUST WANTED TO SECOND EVERYTHING THAT WAS SAID ABOUT THE NATIONAL NIGHT OUT, AND DEFINITELY THE COMMUNITY CAME OUT BIG NUMBERS. AND IF YOU SEE ALL THE PICTURES, NOT JUST THEY SHOWED UP, THEY, YOU KNOW, ALL THE FACE, YOU KNOW, SMILE, YOU KNOW, HAPPY FACE. AND THE COLLECTION WAS GREAT.

PEOPLE WERE BRINGING STILL THE FOOD FOR THE NETWORK. AND I THINK LOOK FORWARD TO SEE THE NUMBER. YOU KNOW, WE ARE AGAIN, BACK TO NUMBER ONE. GREAT. THANK YOU. EVERYONE WHO ATTENDED COUNCILMEMBER CORCORAN, I ON WEDNESDAY MORNING, I GOT TO PARTICIPATE IN A BIKE BUS TO HEIGHTS ELEMENTARY WITH CARLY STERN AND SOME OTHER MEMBERS OF THE RICHARDSON BICYCLE COALITION. I'D NEVER DONE ANYTHING LIKE THAT BEFORE, BUT IT WAS A LOT OF FUN. ALMOST MAKES YOU WANT TO STAY. COUNCIL MEMBER FOR A WHILE. NOT QUITE, BUT ALMOST. IT WAS A LOT OF FUN.

I WILL THROW MY OWN BIKE BUS IN. I GOT TO DO THE SAME AT ARAPAHO CLASSICAL MAGNET. IT'S THE FIRST TIME I'VE ACTUALLY BEEN ON THAT CAMPUS. IT WAS REALLY A WONDERFUL EXPERIENCE. I WANT TO I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO COUNCIL MEMBER BURDETTE. I ARRIVED LATE, BUT THERE WAS A RIBBON CUTTING AT THE ORIGINAL CHOP SHOP, AND COUNCIL MEMBER BURDETTE WAS THERE AND AND REPRESENTING RICHARDSON QUITE WELL AND WAS APPRECIATIVE THAT YOU WERE THERE HOLDING DOWN THE FORT. I'M USUALLY THERE ON TIME, BUT JUGGLING THE THE DIFFERENT MOVING PARTS. I GOT THERE RIGHT AFTER THE RIBBON CUTTING, BUT BUT I WAS THRILLED TO SEE THAT YOU. YOU HAD STEPPED IN THERE.

ON THE MISS TEXAS STUFF. YOU KNOW, IT WAS LIKE SIX HOURS OF MISS TEXAS ON THAT DAY. TWO HOURS FOR THAT REVIEW THAT I KNOW. COUNCIL MEMBER DORIAN ALSO WENT TO, WHICH WAS REALLY GREAT AND IT WAS QUITE ENTERTAINING. I DIDN'T REALIZE, STUPID ME, THAT WHEN SOMEONE IS CROWNED MISS AMERICA THAT THEY CROWN A NEW MISS TEXAS. SO THAT WAS NEW TO ME. BUT THAT'S STEPHANIE WENDT WHO DID MAKE IT OUT TO OUR NATIONAL NIGHT OUT. REAGAN WAS AMAZING, I WILL TELL YOU THAT LATER IN THE EVENING EVENT, THE CEO OF THE MISS AMERICA PAGEANT WAS THERE, ROBIN FLEMING. MY WIFE, AND I GOT TO SIT WITH THE LAST MISS TEXAS TO BECOME MISS AMERICA, WHICH IT HAD BEEN 52 YEARS SINCE THAT HAD HAPPENED, AS WELL AS WE HAVE ALWAYS DONE IN THE MISS AMERICA PAGEANT. WE GET REAL, REAL CLOSE EVERY TIME. BUT WE HAVEN'T ACTUALLY WON IN 52 YEARS, WHICH I DIDN'T REALIZE IT HAD BEEN THAT LONG. BUT SHIRLEY COTHRAN BARRETT, WHO GAVE AN AMAZING SPEECH AMONG THE DIFFERENT SPEECHES THAT HAPPENED THAT EVENING, AND JUST A LOT TO BE PROUD OF, TO BE THE HOST AS OUR CITY. AND THEN THE LAST THING I'LL MENTION IS OCTOBER THE 10TH OR 1010 IS A REAL BIG DATE IN THE TAIWANESE COMMUNITY. IT'S THEIR KIND OF INDEPENDENCE DAY OR NATIONAL DAY. AND I DIDN'T REALIZE SO MANY EVENTS COULD HAPPEN IN SUCH A SMALL WINDOW. BUT THERE HAD BEEN A GALA. I THINK MAYBE IT WAS. I DON'T EVEN REMEMBER WHAT NIGHTS THESE WERE, BUT MAYBE FRIDAY NIGHT, A FIRST PITCH CEREMONY. MAYBE THAT WAS SATURDAY OR SUNDAY MORNING. A FLAG RAISING AN ART EVENT. BUT THEY WENT ALL OUT.

IT'S REALLY COOL. OF THOSE FOUR EVENTS, THREE OF THEM WERE IN RICHARDSON. IT'S REALLY COOL THAT THOSE COMMUNITIES ARE CONGREGATING IN RICHARDSON FOR THESE EVENTS MORE OFTEN THAN NOT, ALTHOUGH ONE OF THEM WAS IN A DIFFERENT CITY. SO REALLY PROUD TO BE ABLE TO HAVE OUR CITY BE SUCH A GREAT EXAMPLE AND A AND A GREAT PLACE FOR SO MANY OF THESE WONDERFUL THINGS HAPPENING, WITH NO FURTHER BUSINESS. THIS MEETING IS

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.