[CALL TO ORDER ]
          [A. PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS AND VISITORS FORUM ]
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          CORTEZ MATHIS, 1309. MAGNOLIA. THE AGENDA TOPIC. I'M SORRY, THE AGENDA ITEMS OR AGENDA B AND C AND THE POSITION IS IN FAVOR. STEPHEN YOUNG 3704. HACKBERRY. AMAZON AND WALMART DRONES AGAINST T ROBERTS, 951 GREENSIDE DRIVE. THE ITEMS ARE AGAIN AGENDA ITEMS B AND C IN FAVOR. JULIA KOCH 3213 TAM O'SHANTER AGENDA ITEMS B AND C IN FAVOR. CHRISTY GRAHAM, 3518 BRADFORD DRIVE, AMAZON DRONE DELIVERY POSITION IS AGAINST. AND FINALLY GARY MARTINI, 3411 WHITE OAK DRIVE, AMAZON DRONE DELIVERY AND THE POSITION IS AGAINST. FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE MAKING COMMENTS TONIGHT DURING THIS PORTION OF THE COUNCIL MEETING, 30 MINUTES IS ALLOCATED FOR THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO PROVIDE COMMENTS TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON AGENDA ITEMS. IF THERE'S TIME LEFT DURING THE INITIAL 30 MINUTES ALLOCATED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, THE REMAINING TIME WILL BE PROVIDED AS A VISITOR'S FORM OPEN TO ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ANY TOPIC IN WHICH THE SUBJECT MATTER IS WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE CITY. IF THE FULL 30 MINUTES ALLOCATED FOR PUBLIC COMMENT IS REACHED AND SPEAKERS HAVE SUBMITTED, A PUBLIC COMMENT CARD MAY SPEAK AT THE VISITORS FORUM SCHEDULED AT THE END OF THE MEETING. ALL SPEAKERS SHOULD COMPLETE A COMMENT CARD AND SUBMIT IT TO THE CITY SECRETARY. SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER THEY ARE RECEIVED. WHEN YOUR NAME IS CALLED, PLEASE STEP TO THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. ALL SPEAKERS WILL BE LIMITED TO A MAXIMUM OF FIVE MINUTES AS INDICATED BY THE TIMERS. WHEN THE TIMER BEEPS, THE SPEAKER SHOULD CONCLUDE THEIR COMMENTS PROMPTLY. SPEAKERS MUST NOT PHYSICALLY APPROACH MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL OR STAFF, AND SHOULD REMAIN AT THE PODIUM DURING THEIR COMMENTS. SPEAKERS WITH HANDOUTS MUST PROVIDE THEM TO THE CITY SECRETARY FOR DISTRIBUTION. SPEAKERS SUBMIT. ANY COMMENTS ON THE SAME TOPIC ARE ENCOURAGED TO REDUCE REPETITIVE REMARKS BY INDICATING THEIR COMMENTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN ADDRESSED OR BY SELECTING A REPRESENTATIVE SPEAKER. THE TEXAS OPEN MEETING ACT PROHIBITS THE CITY COUNCIL FROM DISCUSSING OR TAKING ACTION ON ITEMS THAT ARE NOT POSTED ON THE AGENDA. CITY COUNCIL AND CITY STAFF WILL NOT AFFIRM OR OPPOSE ANY SPEAKER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS. THE MAYOR CITY MANAGER MAY RESPOND WITH FACTS, A POLICY OR DIRECT CITY STAFF TO RESPOND TO THE SPEAKER. AFTER THE MEETING, THE AUDIENCE IS ASKED TO REFRAIN FROM APPLAUDING OR OTHER EXPRESSIONS OF SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO THE COMPANY. THE COUNCIL RULES OF ORDER AND PROCEDURE AND THESE GUIDELINES MAY BE FOUND ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE. AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE TO SILENCE THEIR CELL PHONES FOR THE DURATION OF THE MEETING. MISTER SHAWN DE MIRANDA. YES. GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS SHAWN DE MIRANDA. AS ADDRESS 438 RUSTIC CIRCLE. I'M A RICHARDSON HIGH SCHOOL SENIOR. I'M PART OF THE ARCHITECTURE PATHWAY HERE AT RICHARDSON. I'M ALSO ON MAYOR OMAR'S UTD STUDENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE. I'M HERE TODAY TO SHARE MY EXPERIENCE ON THE STUDENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND THE IMPACT IT HAS HAD ON ME. AND WHILE NOT EVERY STUDENT AT RICHARDSON MAY HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY BY REESTABLISHING AND SUSTAINING THE MAYOR'S SUMMER INTERNSHIP PROGRAM, IT CAN PROVIDE STUDENTS WITH AN IMPACTFUL AND MEANINGFUL JOB THAT TEACHES THEM REAL WORLD SKILLS AND GIVES BACK TO THEIR COMMUNITY. BEFORE I GO OR SORRY, BEFORE I GOT TO WHERE I'M STANDING NOW, I WAS JOB SEARCHING ABOUT A YEAR AGO BECAUSE I WAS LOOKING FOR SOME WORK EXPERIENCE, AND TO BE HONEST, MY POCKETS WERE A LITTLE THIN AT FIRST. I WAS TRYING TO WORK AT A SHOE STORE, BUT FRANKLY, I DIDN'T FEEL LIKE SPENDING THE SUMMER TYING OTHER PEOPLE'S SHOES. I WANTED SOMETHING MORE MEANINGFUL AND CLOSER TO MY PASSION AND ARCHITECTURE THAT I HAD DISCOVERED THROUGH RICHARDSON HIGH SCHOOL'S ARCHITECTURE PROGRAM. I WAS INITIALLY DRAWN TO THE MAYOR'S SUMMER INTERNSHIP PROGRAM BECAUSE IT WAS A JOB THAT ALLOWED ME TO GIVE BACK TO THE CITY I HAD GROWN UP IN. I WANTED TO BE DOING WORK THAT HAD A LARGER IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY, BUT I UNDERSTOOD IT HAD BEEN SHUT DOWN DUE TO RAISED BUDGET CUTS. I ENDED UP FINDING A JOB, BUT I WASN'T SATISFIED WITH WHAT I WAS DOING. THAT WAS UNTIL I WAS OFFERED A SURPRISING OPPORTUNITY BY MAYOR OMAR TO SERVE ON THE UTD STUDENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE. IT TURNS OUT I AND MY FELLOW CLASSMATES IN RICHARDSON HIGH SCHOOL'S ARCHITECTURE PATHWAY WERE REFERENCED BY ARCHITECTURE TEACHER, HIGHLIGHTING THE WORK WE'VE DONE IN THIS POSITION THAT I CAN SAY FEELS VERY MUCH LIKE AN INTERNSHIP AFTER BEING A PART OF IT FOR FOUR MONTHS NOW, WE IN RICHARDSON HIGH SCHOOL ARCHITECTURE WERE ASKED AND ARE STILL WORKING ON SEVERAL PARCELS OF LAND IN THE 
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CITY AIMED TO REDEVELOP THEM FO ECONOMIC GROWTH. TO PUT EVERYTHING IN A NUTSHELL, WE UTILIZE OUR ARCHITECTURE SKILLS. WE COME UP WITH SITE ANALYSIS, WE BRAINSTORM IDEAS, WE COME UP WITH SCHEMATICS, AND WE CREATE PROFESSIONAL RENDERINGS. MUCH LIKE AN INTERNSHIP, WE ARE GIVEN WORK TO DO. WE ALSO GIVE PRESENTATIONS AND UPDATES ON ON IT IN PROFESSIONAL SETTINGS, AND WE USE IT TO GIVE BACK TO OUR CITY. VERY SIMILAR TO HOW PLANO'S SUMMER MAYOR INTERNSHIP OPERATES IN THE WORK THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING, ONE THING THAT STANDS OUT TO ME AND MAKES THIS MEANINGFUL IS THE IMPACT IT HAS ON NOT JUST US IN OUR SCHOOL, BUT THE CITY IN THE FUTURE OF IT. I SEE THE MAYOR'S SUMMER INTERNSHIP PROGRAM PROVIDING RICHARDSON STUDENTS AND FUTURE ONES TO COME WITH THE SIMILAR OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE AN IMPACT ON THEIR CITY. BY BRINGING BACK THIS PROGRAM, IT CAN CALL UP MORE STUDENTS TO BE LEADERS AND VISIONARIES. THE UTD STUDENT ADVISORY COUNCIL HAS GROWN ME SO MUCH AND BY BRINGING BACK THIS INTERNSHIP, IT CAN DO THE SAME FOR SO MANY MORE STUDENTS. IT PROVIDES RICHARDSON WITH A FUTURE GENERATION OF AMBITIOUS YOUNG PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING TO INVEST IN THEIR OWN CITY. ANOTHER THING THAT I SEE THIS INTERNSHIP DOING IS OPENING THE DOOR FOR CONNECTIONS BETWEEN BUSINESSES AND STUDENTS IN OUR COMMUNITY. BY HAVING STUDENTS WHO ARE WILLING TO TAKE ACTION AND WORK FOR THEIR CITY, AND THE COMPANIES THAT OPERATE WITHIN IT CAN STRENGTHEN THE BOND IN OUR COMMUNITY. THROUGH MY INTERNSHIP LIKE OPPORTUNITY, IT MAKES ME FEEL LIKE I AM JUST AS MUCH. I AM JUST AS MUCH A PART OF THIS CITY AS ANYONE ELSE. THIS EXPERIENCE HAS SUPERCHARGED MY HIGH SCHOOL STORY AND LEARNING. I'M GETTING A REAL WORLD LOOK AT HOW THINGS WORK, AND I'M SEEING THE WORLD THROUGH A FINANCIAL AND LEGAL STANDPOINT, AND MANY OTHER STUDENTS CAN GET THE SAME THROUGH THIS INTERNSHIP PROGRAM. THE FINAL POINT AND HOW I SEE THE MAYOR'S SUMMER INTERNSHIP PROGRAM IMPACTING MORE STUDENTS IN RICHARDSON, LIES IN THE PROSPECT THAT WHAT OUR ARCHITECTURE TEAM IS CREATING MIGHT ACTUALLY GET BUILT ONE DAY, AND IT FILLS ME WITH THE CITY PRIDE. IT MAKES ME FEEL PROUD THAT RICHARDSON IS REACHING DOWN TO HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS AND INVESTING IN US, THE YOUNGER GENERATION. I AM NOT I MAY NOT BE FULLY. I MAY NOT FULLY UNDERSTAND WHAT IT TAKES TO FINANCIALLY REESTABLISH THE MAYOR'S SUMMER INTERNSHIP PROGRAM. BUT WHAT I DO KNOW IS WHAT IT HAS TO OFFER CAN'T BE REPLICATED IN THE CLASSROOM. I KNOW THAT FAMILIES MOVED TO CITIES FOR WHAT THEIR SCHOOLS HAVE TO OFFER, AND I KNOW THAT IF RICHARDSON CAN PROVIDE THIS AMAZING OPPORTUNITY TO ITS STUDENTS, THAT SURELY SPEAKS HIGHLY OF OUR CITY. I LOOK BACK TO THE SUMMER. I WOULD HAVE BEEN TYING OTHER PEOPLE'S SHOES, AND I FIND THIS COMPLETELY MORE VALUABLE. I TRULY WISH THAT THE MAYOR'S SUMMER INTERNSHIP PROGRAM IS SOMETHING THIS COUNCIL WILL CONSIDER AS MORE OF THE CITY, AS THE MORE THE CITY CAN FEED INTO THE STUDENTS, THE MORE VALUABLE THEY'RE MAKING OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM AND THE STRONGER THEY'RE MAKING US AS A COMMUNITY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, MR. DE MIRANDA. OBDOBI. THANK YOU AMY. GOOD EVENING. MAYOR, COUNCIL, CITY MANAGER, MR. MAGNER AND STAFF, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY PRESENTED HERE FOR ME TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF GARY SLAGLE BEING NAMED TO THE DART BRIDGE. AND I WANT TO COMMEND THE COUNCIL FIRST, THAT YOU ALL IMPLEMENTED ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO WHEN YOU WERE WORKING ON THE CITY CHARTER, THE CITY ASSET NAMING POLICY, 7.4 IN THE CHARTER. THE PURPOSE OF THIS POLICY IS TO ESTABLISH A CLEAR, CONSISTENT AND TRANSPARENT PROCESS FOR NAMING AND RENAMING CITY OWNED ASSETS. UNFORTUNATELY, THE BRIDGE IS A DART ASSET, SO THIS DOESN'T REALLY FALL IN LINE WITH WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. 7.4 DOESN'T APPLY. HOWEVER, I THINK YOUR INTENT DEFINITELY APPLIES. WHAT DID YOU WANT? AND I THINK THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT Y'ALL'S VISION WAS. Y'ALL STATE A PERSON OR NAMING A SOMETHING AFTER A PERSON SHOULD HAVE SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE CITY OF RICHARDSON. I LOVE THIS PART. DISTRICT AND ELEVATED BRIDGE IS ELEVATED, BY THE WAY, HONOR RESERVED FOR EXCEPTIONAL AND PERMANENT RECOGNITION. POLICIES SUCH AS THESE ON BUILDING STRUCTURES, INFRASTRUCTURE PROGRAMS, PROJECTS, SERVICES, WHATEVER. BUT IT'S RESERVED FOR EXTRAORDINARY AND LASTING IMPACT ON THE CITY. IT'S A RARE AND HIGHLY SELECTIVE MOVEMENT, AND SOMETHING THAT YOU VOTE ON, AND IT'S A PERMANENT STATEMENT OF APPRECIATION. GARY DESERVES THAT. THE CRITERIA REFLECTS THE COMMUNITY'S VALUES, HISTORY OR GEOGRAPHY. AVOID DUPLICATION AND CONFUSION AND APPROPRIATE LONG TERM USE. SO ALL THOSE THINGS I THINK ARE WORTHY TO CONSIDER. HOWEVER, THIS 
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PARTICULAR PROJECT SPEAKS LOUDLY AND SHOUTS GARY SLAGLE. LET ME SAY A LITTLE BIT ABOUT GARY. WHY IS HE DESERVING? HE WAS THE MAYOR PRO TEM OR MAYOR FOR 20 YEARS. HE WAS PRESIDENT AND CEO, CEO OF HIS OWN COMPANY AND HAD FIVE DIFFERENT COMPANIES, WHICH HE HOUSED HERE IN RICHARDSON. SO HIS PERSONAL INCOME, LIFE AND SO FORTH, HE BROUGHT TAX DOLLARS BACK TO RICHARDSON, NOT TO MENTION ALL THE FREE TIME AS A CITY COUNCILMAN. ALL OF HIS PUBLIC SERVICE CANNOT GO DENIED. IT WAS UNBELIEVABLE. HE IS KNOWN THROUGHOUT THE METROPLEX AS BEING A GIVER, CONTRIBUTOR AND SOLUTION MINDED, ORIENTED PRESENTER. HE REPRESENTED THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION COUNCIL. HE WAS ON THE BOARD AND PRESIDENT OF COG. HE WAS THE PRESIDENT OF THE METROPLEX MAYORS ASSOCIATION, DALLAS REGIONAL MOBILITY COALITION FOR 15 YEARS. AND NOW HE'S STILL WORKING HAND IN HAND WITH DART, AND MOST RECENTLY, HE WAS THE PAST PRESIDENT OF DART. I ASK YOU TONIGHT TO LOOK AT THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS THAT ALL INCLUDED THE CITY OF RICHARDSON. CITY OF RICHARDSON CAME FIRST WHEN IT CAME TO GARY SLAGLE. I ASK AND PLEAD THAT ALL OF YOU MAKE THIS A UNANIMOUS DECISION AND ASK THE STAFF. ASK MR. MAGNER TO PLEASE GO FORWARD AND SOLICIT THIS OPPORTUNITY THROUGH THE PROPER CHANNELS WITH DART. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. THANK YOU, MAYOR DOOBIE. TODD HUNTER. WELL, SILVER LINE OR SILVER TONGUE, THAT WAS WELL SAID I, I GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS TODD HUNTER. I LIVE AT 2612 EAST PRAIRIE CREEK DRIVE HERE IN RICHARDSON. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, STAFF, OF COURSE. DON, I'M HERE. HOLD ON. LET ME PUT THIS THING UP HERE. I WROTE SOME WORDS DOWN, BUT I'M KIND OF CLUMPED HERE BECAUSE BOB TOOK IT ALL AWAY. ANYTHING I COULD POSSIBLY HAVE SAID ABOUT HIM? GARY SERVES THIS COMMUNITY, HAS ALWAYS SERVED THIS COMMUNITY AND HAVE. MANY OF YOU WHO DO KNOW ME RECOGNIZE THAT SERVICE IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME. I CAN'T IMAGINE A BETTER HONOR THAN TO NAME. LET ME WRITE THIS DOWN BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO SAY. TO SUPPORT THE RESOLUTION. TO NAME THE SILVER LINE ARCHES IN HONOR OF GARY SLAGLE. AS BOB SAID, I THINK SOLICITING WITH THE CITY, THE DART AND EVERYTHING STAFF MUST DO TO GET THAT RESOLUTION PASSED. I'M HERE TO SUPPORT THAT, AND I THINK MANY OF THE PEOPLE WERE HERE TO MY RIGHT ARE AS WELL. I WILL YIELD BACK MY TIME AND I WISH I COULD HAVE BEEN MORE ELOQUENT. BUT BOB, BOB BEAT ME THERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. HUNTER. GLENN. SCOTT. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL STAFF, I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A FEW MOMENTS UP HERE. MY NAME IS GLENN SCOTT AND I RESIDE AT 2311 CLEAR CIRCLE. BOB ALSO IS SUMMARIZED A LOT OF WHAT MY COMMENTS ARE TONIGHT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I'M ALSO HERE TONIGHT IN SUPPORT OF THE INITIATIVE TO NAME THE NEW DART BRIDGE OVER CENTRAL AND HONOR OF GARY SLAGLE. I REALLY CAN'T THINK OF ANYBODY MORE DESERVING OF THIS RECOGNITION. I WOULD RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT YOU UNANIMOUSLY CONSIDER SUPPORTING THIS INITIATIVE SO WE CAN MOVE IT FORWARD TO DART FOR FURTHER ACTION. AND I THINK NAMING THIS BRIDGE IN GARY'S HONOR WOULD BE A FITTING TRIBUTE TO A LIFETIME OF PUBLIC SERVICE AND LEADERSHIP. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. SCOTT. MAUREEN MARSH. 
          GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, I'M ARI MARSH. I LIVE AT 2611 CHERYL PARK DRIVE IN RICHARDSON. FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO SAY THE ARCHES ARE BEAUTIFUL AND THEY REPRESENT 
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OUR BEAUTIFUL CITY, WHICH ALSO REPRESENTS OUR BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE THAT HAVE MADE IT WHAT IT IS. 
          AND GARY CERTAINLY PLAYED A HUGE PART IN THAT. I WANT TO ADD, IF YOU ARE GOING TO NAME A BRIDGE AFTER SOMEBODY, IT SHOULD BE FOR SOMEONE WHO HELPED TO GET IT BUILT AND WHO IS AN OUTSTANDING CITIZEN OF GREAT INTEGRITY, DEDICATION, LOYALTY AND LOVE FOR OUR CITY AND ITS RESIDENTS. I'M GOING TO SKIP A LITTLE BIT HERE BECAUSE YOU'VE HEARD IT ALREADY, BUT HE REPRESENTED RICHARDSON WHEN DART BOUGHT THE COTTON BELT RAIL LINES TO CREATE THE SILVER LINE, HE REPRESENTED RICHARDSON. WHEN DART APPROVED CONSTRUCTION OF THE SILVER LINE WITH A STOP AT THE CITY LINE STATION, HE REPRESENTED RICHARDSON. WHEN DART COMPLETED CONSTRUCTION OF THE SILVER LINE AND THE ARCHES. WE MAY NOT HAVE EVEN HAD THE SILVER LINE ARCHES IF IT WERE NOT FOR GARY. I CAN'T THINK OF A MORE HONORABLE AND DESERVING PERSON THAN GARY SLAGLE FOR FOR THE BRIDGE TO BE NAMED AFTER. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, MISS MARSH. LISA STENGEL. HELLO, MY NAME IS LISA STINGEL. I GUESS I SHOULD TELL YOU MY ADDRESS. 1221 COMANCHE. BUT I AM HERE ON BEHALF OTHE CLASS EIGHT OF CARES. WE WANT TO THANK AMY. AMY, EVERYTHING YOU DID TO HELP MAKE THIS PROGRAM ABSOLUTELY AMAZING. YOUR ENTHUSIASM, YOUR ATTENTION TO DETAIL, YOUR LOVE FOR YOUR CITY, AND FOR THE PEOPLE IN IT. IT CAME THROUGH WEEK AFTER WEEK AND WE ARE SO GRATEFUL. WE RECOGNIZE HOW MUCH WORK IT TAKES TO PUT TOGETHER A PROGRAM SUCH LIKE CARES. AND AGAIN, WE'RE SO GRATEFUL BECAUSE THROUGH CARES, WE GAINED A DEEPER UNDERSTANDING OF HOW RICHARDSON REALLY WORKS FROM THE CITY BUDGET. HOLY COW! TO THE PROGRAMS AND SERVICES THAT TOUCH OUR LIVES EVERY SINGLE DAY. WE ALSO MET THE DEDICATED PEOPLE BEHIND THE WORK AND THAT CONNECTION, AMY, THAT MADE ALL THE DIFFERENCE IN THE WORLD TO OUR CITY LEADERS AND TO OUR STAFF. THANK YOU FOR INVESTING IN US, GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN TO ASK QUESTIONS AND BECOME MORE AWARE OF THE COMMUNITY RESOURCES THAT HELP US BECOME MORE INFORMED AND INVOLVED WITH OUR NEIGHBORS. MY HOPE IS THAT THIS IMPACT WILL CONTINUE AS WE CONTINUE TO SHARE WHAT WE LEARNED, AND WE ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO PARTICIPATE AND FIND NEW WAYS TO SERVE IN THIS AMAZING CITY. SO AMY, THANK YOU FOR HELPING US FEEL MORE CONNECTED TO THE CITY OF RICHARDSON AND MORE PREPARED TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE FUTURE. AND THERE'S CLASS PARTICIPANTS. 
          WOULD YOU PLEASE STAND TO REPRESENT HOW GRATEFUL WE ARE? AND WE HAVE A LITTLE SOMETHING. 
          THANK YOU, MISS STENGEL. NO FURTHER CARDS. MAYOR, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT IS LOOKING TO SPEAK THIS EVENING? ALL RIGHT. IF YOU ARE. IF YOU'LL JUST PROMISE TO FILL OUT A CARD AFTER YOU'VE SPOKEN, YOU CAN. SORRY, I WASN'T REALLY READY TO SPEAK, SO I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. SO IT'S GOING TO BE KIND OF AD LIB. SO YOU'RE ALL TALKING ABOUT RENAMING OR NAMING THE BRIDGE. DO YOU MIND STARTING WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS? I'M SORRY. 1003 NORTH WATERVIEW DRIVE. AND THAT'S RICHARDSON. THE ARCH OVER 75. AND I, I HAVE TO FULLY AGREE WITH WHAT THE OTHER SPEAKERS HAVE SAID. IT'S IT WOULD BE AN HONOR TO SAY THAT GARY C GARY'S NAME ON THAT BRIDGE. I WAS ON COUNCIL WHEN WE VOTED TO PARTICIPATE IN GIVING DART SOME TIF MONEY TO HELP BUILD THE BRIDGE AND BUILD THE ARCHES. SO IT'S VERY FITTING FOR IT TO BE NAMED WITH GARY AS HE WAS THE LEADER OF DART AT THAT TIME. WHEN IT GOT BUILT. GARY HAS HAS SERVED THIS COMMUNITY FOR MANY YEARS. AS MENTIONED PREVIOUS BY THE OTHER SPEAKERS. HE'S AN 
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AWESOME, AWESOME GUY FOR THE CITY CHEERLEADER LIKE MANY OF Y'ALL ARE. AND SO I HOPE Y'ALL DO WHAT SHOULD BE DONE AND IS NAME THE BRIDGE OR THE ARCHES FOR GARY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU, MR. DUNN. HI, I'M JOHN SWEDEN, FIVE FOUR SOUTH GROVE ROAD, RICHARDSON, TEXAS. 
          AND I WON'T BELABOR ALL OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN SAID ABOUT GARY, BUT I WOULD TELL YOU THAT ONE OF THE GREAT REASONS THAT HE SHOULD BE CONSIDERED FOR THAT HONOR IS THAT HE WAS A CALM AND STEADY HAND IN THE DAYS WHEN DART WAS ANYTHING BUT CERTAIN. AND THERE WERE MANY A TIME THAT WE SAT IN A ROOM, KIND OF LIKE THE ONE YOU'RE SITTING IN NOW, WHERE IT COULD HAVE BEEN CUT BY BY SNIPPING A SINGLE THREAD. AND GARY WAS THE PERSON THAT WAS THERE THAT ALWAYS PROVIDED WONDERFUL LEADERSHIP DURING THAT TIME. AND, AND BECAUSE OF A LOT OF THOSE, A LOT OF THOSE THINGS THAT HE DID, WE ENJOY A LOT OF THE BENEFITS THAT OTHER CITIES NEVER WILL. AND I THINK ENCOURAGE ART TO NAME THE ARCHES OF THE BRIDGE AFTER GARY IS TOTALLY FITTING. AND I THINK IT'S A WONDERFUL IDEA THAT SPEAKS VOLUMES ABOUT GARY'S CHARACTER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. SWEDEN. WERE THERE ANY OTHERS? OH, THERE IS OKAY. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS DANE BALLOU, 401 RIDGE HAVEN PLACE HERE IN RICHARDSON. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY. I'VE MET SOME OF YOU BEFORE AT COFFEE WITH THE COUNCIL. I WAS HAD THE PRIVILEGE TO BE WITH THE MAYOR AT THE UT AI DAY AND CAME HERE THIS EVENING AT HIS REQUEST TO SUPPORT AND JUST TO, YOU KNOW, SAY THANK YOU FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF BRINGING THE INTERNSHIP PROGRAM. MY DAUGHTER, BRYNN, IF SHE'LL RAISE HER HAND AS A JUNIOR AT PIERCE THIS YEAR. 
          SHE JUST WAS RECENTLY NAMED TO THE HUMBLEBRAG NATIONAL HONOR SOCIETY. SHE'S VERY ACTIVE IN THE IN THE BRAND. SO JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR FOR INVESTING IN THE FUTURE. I THINK IT'S ALWAYS IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY IN THE AGE OF, YOU KNOW, JOB UNCERTAINTY, YOUTH FEELING DISENFRANCHIZED FROM TRADITIONAL EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES AND ABILITY TO HAVE THIS KIND OF PROGRAM TO, TO SERVE OUR YOUTH. AND THANK YOU FOR HAVING US. OF COURSE. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. IF THERE ARE NO OTHERS, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM B, WHICH 
          [B. REVIEW AND DISCUSS ALTERNATIVE LANDSCAPE STRATEGIES ]
IS TO REVIEW AND DISCUSS ALTERNATIVE LANDSCAPE STRATEGIES. MR. MAGNER. THANK YOU, MAYOR, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. SEAN ROGERS, OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF PARKS MAINTENANCE, IS GOING TO LEAD THIS BRIEFING. BUT I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE YVONNE, OUR DIRECTOR, AS WELL AS KYLE KELLY, OUR PARKS MAINTENANCE SUPERINTENDENT. OUR MISSION TONIGHT IS TO OUTLINE FOR YOU OUR CURRENT PARKS MAINTENANCE STRATEGY, INCLUDING KIND OF OUR OUR MISSION AND OUR PHILOSOPHY ON HOW WE ACHIEVE THAT. AND THEN TO RAISE FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TO ALTERNATIVE STRATEGIES. AND THEN BASED ON YOUR FEEDBACK, WE'VE GOT A PLAN OF ACTION FOR FURTHERING THE DISCUSSION. SO, SEAN, THANKS FOR PUTTING THIS BRIEFING TOGETHER. I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU FOR THE BRIEFING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. MAYOR. COUNCIL, APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU TONIGHT ABOUT SOME ALTERNATIVE LANDSCAPE MAINTENANCE STRATEGIES WE'VE BEEN CHARGED TO, TO LOOK AT AND PROVIDE A REPORT TO YOU ON. SO THE PURPOSE TONIGHT IS TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE DO IN PARKS MAINTENANCE, WHAT OUR STRATEGIES ARE, WHAT OUR OPERATIONS ARE LIKE, AND THEN GIVE YOU SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THESE TWO POTENTIAL ALTERNATIVE METHODS FOR LANDSCAPE MAINTENANCE. AND THEN HERE'S SOME FEEDBACK FROM YOU ON HOW WE SHOULD PROCEED WITH THOSE. AND SO JUST TO START WITH A GENERAL OVERVIEW OF THE PARKS MAINTENANCE PROGRAM, THIS TEXT KIND OF DESCRIBES THE WAY WE APPROACH THAT THAT TASK TO PROVIDE SAFE, WELL-MAINTAINED, MANICURED SPACES TO ACCOMMODATE THE RECREATION NEEDS OF OUR CITIZENS WHILE PROTECTING NATURAL RESOURCES. AND IT REALLY IS A BALANCE FOR US BECAUSE WE HAVE RECREATION NEEDS, WE HAVE CONSERVATION NEEDS. AND SO THREADING THAT NEEDLE IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT TO US AND HOW WE MAINTAIN THE GREEN SPACES IN RICHARDSON. SO JUST SOME GENERAL NOTES ABOUT PARK TURF AND GENERAL LANDSCAPE MANAGEMENT. WE HAVE SEVERAL DIFFERENT TIERS OF HOW FREQUENTLY WE MOW TURF THROUGHOUT THE CITY. SO ATHLETIC FIELDS IN THE SEASON, FOR INSTANCE, ARE MOWED EVERY FIVE DAYS BECAUSE THOSE ARE PLAYING SURFACES WHERE WE HAVE PROGRAMED GAMES, PRACTICES, LEAGUE ACTIVITY, PICK UP GAMES, YOU NAME IT. THROWING THOSE FREQUENTLY IS VERY IMPORTANT. 
          GENERAL PARK TURF THAT IS NOT ATHLETIC. FIELDS MOWED EVERY SEVEN DAYS. TURF OR PUBLIC 
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BUILDINGS LIKE THE GYMNASTICS CENTER AROUND REC CENTERS AT CITY HALL, FIRE STATIONS, PLACES LIKE THAT. EVERY SEVEN DAYS, THE MEDIANS, RIGHTS AWAY. AREAS LIKE THAT ARE A TEN DAY ROTATION, AND THAT'S THROUGH THE 274 DAY MOWING SEASON, 274 DAYS, ROUGHLY MARCH TO NOVEMBER, DEPENDING ON THE WEATHER PARK AND ATHLETIC TURF. WE FERTILIZE 3 TO 4 TIMES A YEAR. AND WHEN I SAY THAT OUR GOAL IS TO FERTILIZE GENERAL PARK TURF AT LEAST THREE TIMES A YEAR TO FERTILIZE ATHLETIC FIELDS AT LEAST FOUR TIMES A YEAR. WE ALSO DO TARGETED FERTILIZATIONS IF THERE'S A NEED IN THE SOIL. IF WE'RE SEEING ISSUES OR CONCERNS, WE MAY APPLY MORE FERTILIZATION IN A SPECIFIC AREA HERE OR THERE. OR IF WE CAN'T DO ANOTHER FULL SPECTRUM, BROAD APPLICATION, IF THE TURF NEEDS IT, WE WILL BUT HAVE TO MANAGE, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH NITROGEN WE'RE PUTTING OUT, WHAT DOES THE TURF REALLY NEED? AND BE AWARE, LIKE I SAID, OF NATURAL RESOURCES, THE IMPACT ON THE ENVIRONMENT. AND IMPORTANT TO NOTE ALSO THAT THE TURF AND LANDSCAPED AREAS OF PARKS, PUBLIC BUILDINGS ARE MAINTAINED IN-HOUSE BY OUR STAFF, IRRIGATED, MAINTAINED. THE MOWING IS OFTEN DONE BY CONTRACTOR, BUT AS FAR AS CULTURAL PRACTICE FOR THE TURF, FERTILIZATION DECISIONS, AERATION, THINGS LIKE THAT, WE DO ALL OF THAT IN-HOUSE AND THEN LIMITED MOWING IS SOMETHING THAT WE ALSO DO IN A FEW SELECT AREAS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. DESPITE THOSE MOWING ROTATIONS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE DO HAVE SOME AREAS WHERE WE MOW, MUCH LESS FREQUENCY. ONE AREA OF NOTE IS THE RIPARIAN AREA, WHICH IS THE AREA RIGHT NEXT TO THE BODY OF WATER. SO IN THE CASE OF DUCK CREEK LINEAR PARK, RIGHT ALONG THE CREEK, YOU MAY HAVE NOTICED THAT WE LET THE GRASS GROW UP 1824IN. AND THAT'S AS A WAY TO PROTECT THE BANK FROM EROSION SO IT DOESN'T SLOUGH OFF INTO THE CREEK, PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF HABITAT, AND JUST CREATE A BETTER, YOU KNOW, CONSERVATION ZONE RIGHT THERE ALONG THE CREEK CREEK CORRIDORS IN GENERAL, THERE ARE A HANDFUL, MAYBE 8 TO 10 CREEK CORRIDORS. WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR MOWING THROUGHOUT THE CITY. THOSE ARE MODE ON EVERY 21 DAY BASIS BECAUSE THOSE ARE NOT PUBLIC AREAS. THOSE ARE NOT PLACES WHERE PEOPLE TYPICALLY GATHER OR CONGREGATE OR PURSUE RECREATION ACTIVITIES. SO THE ROTATION OF THOSE IS LESS FREQUENT. AND THEN BRECKENRIDGE PARK, WHICH IS 524 ACRES IN TOTAL, WE HAVE MULTIPLE DIFFERENT MOWING STRATEGIES IN ADDITION TO THE ATHLETIC FIELDS TO PROMOTE EVERY FIVE DAYS, WE HAVE GENERAL PARK TURF THAT'S MOWED EVERY SEVEN DAYS. AND IN SOME AREAS ON THE WEST SIDE, FOR INSTANCE, THAT WE ONLY HAY TWICE A YEAR, BUT ALSO RIPARIAN AREAS AROUND THE PONDS AT RENNER ROAD THAT WE LET GROW UP LIKE WE DO AT DUCK CREEK, AND THEN LARGE AREAS ON THE WEST SIDE THAT ARE MUCH MORE NATURAL AND NOT MOWED AS FREQUENTLY. 
          AND THAT KIND OF LEADS INTO NATURAL AREA MANAGEMENT IN GENERAL. BRECKENRIDGE PARK, SPRING CREEK NATURE AREA, GALLATIN WOODLAND PRESERVE ARE AREAS THAT WE CERTAINLY CONSIDER, NATURAL AREAS THAT WE MANAGE WITH A LITTLE BIT OF A LIGHT TOUCH APPROACH. WE DON'T DO ANY MORE MAINTENANCE THAN WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO IN THOSE AREAS, BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE PRESERVING THOSE. WE'RE CONSERVING THEM AS NATURAL AREAS. LIKE I SAID, THERE ARE LARGE AREAS OF BRECKENRIDGE PARK THAT WE HEY, ONCE A YEAR, AND THAT'S USUALLY RIGHT BEFORE THE FAMILY FOURTH CELEBRATION AT BRECKENRIDGE PARK. AND THAT IS LARGELY BECAUSE OF FIRE MITIGATION RISK. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE ISN'T A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, BIOMASS THERE THAT'S AVAILABLE IN CASE SOMETHING WERE TO GO HAYWIRE WITH THE FIREWORKS. AND THEN FOR INVASIVE SPECIES, THE SPRING CREEK AREA, WE'VE HAD GREAT SUCCESS WITH VOLUNTEERS THERE, INCLUDING CORPORATE PARTNERS AND A LOT OF BOY SCOUT EAGLE SCOUT CANDIDATES HAVE COME THROUGH TO HELP US MANAGE INVASIVE SPECIES AT SPRING CREEK NATURE AREA, WHICH IS ALWAYS A WORK IN PROGRESS BUT CERTAINLY WORTHY OF PURSUING. WHENEVER WE FIND PEOPLE WHO ARE MOTIVATED TO TO HELP US WITH THAT WORK. I WANT TO ALSO NOTE MEDIAN LANDSCAPING. RICHARDSON HAS A TRADITION AND REPUTATION FOR MAINTAINING OUR MEDIANS AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL. YOU MAY NOTICE AS YOU'RE TRAVELING TO OTHER CITIES, THEY DON'T HAVE QUITE THE SAME AMOUNT OF MEDIAN LANDSCAPING THAT WE DO. THAT'S SOMETHING WE TAKE GREAT PRIDE IN, IN MAINTAINING THOSE AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL, AND SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL HAS SUPPORTED, ESPECIALLY OVER RECENT YEARS WITH FUNDING IN THE PARKS MAINTENANCE FUND TO RENOVATE SOME OF THOSE MEDIANS, WHICH WE'VE BEEN DOING A COUPLE OF YEAR TO, TO GREAT SUCCESS, A LOT OF POSITIVE FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY. THAT'S ALWAYS A LITTLE BIT OF A TRICKY PROPOSITION. WE LIKE HAVING THAT LANDSCAPING. WE LIKE MAKING THEM LOOK GOOD SO PEOPLE KNOW THEY'RE IN RICHARDSON WHEN THEY CROSS THE CITY LIMIT. BUT WE WORK CLOSELY WITH TRANSPORTATION MOBILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT TRAFFIC VISIBILITY IS MAINTAINED. THAT LIMITS THE PLANT SELECTION SOMETIMES AND WHERE WE CAN PLANT, YOU KNOW, NOT TOO NEAR TO MEDIAN NOSES. SO LEFT TURN LANES HAVE PLENTY OF VISIBILITY. IT'S SOMETHING WE HEAR ABOUT OCCASIONALLY THAT WE ALWAYS PAY ATTENTION TO. AND THEN, OF COURSE, ONE OF THE BIGGEST PARTS OF OUR OVERALL LANDSCAPE MANAGEMENT PLAN IS THE WILDFLOWER SEEDING PROGRAM, WHICH I THINK EVERYBODY LOVES AS MUCH AS I DO. THAT BEGAN IN 
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1990 WITH AN EIGHT ACRE TEST PLOT WENT SO WELL THAT WE NAMED ONE OF OUR MAJOR FESTIVALS AFTER THE PROGRAM. NOW WE PLANT 40 ACRES PLUS EVERY YEAR, DEPENDING ON THE YEAR THROUGHOUT THE CITY, IN PARKS, PUBLIC BUILDINGS, ON MEDIANS AND RIGHTS OF WAY. IT'S SOMETHING THAT OUR CITIZENS, YOU KNOW, STAFF, EVERYONE LOOKS FORWARD TO EVERY YEAR SEEING THOSE BLOOMS COME UP AND WE ROTATE THE LOCATIONS WHERE WE PLANT THOSE WILDFLOWERS EVERY YEAR. THERE ARE A HANDFUL THAT GET PLANTED EVERY YEAR, BUT BY AND LARGE, WE FOUND THAT MOVING THOSE AROUND A LITTLE BIT HELPS US TO NOT DEPLETE THE SOIL WHERE THOSE WILDFLOWERS GROW EVERY YEAR. AND TO PREVENT TOO MUCH WEED INFILTRATION IN THOSE AREAS, BECAUSE WE DON'T MOW THOSE AT ALL. YOU KNOW, STARTING NOW, BASICALLY UNTIL LATE MAY OR EARLY JUNE, ONCE THE BLOOMS ARE SPENT. SO WEEDS CAN COME UP AS WELL IN THOSE AREAS. WE JUST KIND OF HAVE TO TAKE THE BAD WITH THE GOOD, BUT LET THE WILDFLOWERS COME UP AND DO THEIR THING, BE ENJOYED BY ALL. AND THEN WE MOW THAT FOR A YEAR OR TWO. AND THAT HELPS KEEP THE WEEDS DOWN. AND THEN I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT ALONG ROADWAYS, MEDIANS, YOU MAY HAVE NOTICED, WE'LL HAVE THE WILDFLOWERS PLANTED RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE OF THE MEDIAN. AND WE ALWAYS MOW A LITTLE BIT OF A HALO. WE CALL IT AROUND THE EDGE, JUST TO PREVENT STUFF FROM FLOPPING OVER INTO THE LANES OF TRAFFIC, AND TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE KNOW THAT WE'RE DOING THIS ON PURPOSE. IT GIVES A VERY INTENTIONAL LOOK TO IT, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY'RE JUST STARTING TO COME UP AND MAY LOOK LIKE IT'S JUST NOT BEING MOWED. THAT'S NOT THE CASE. WE'LL DO THAT LITTLE STRIP AROUND THE EDGE. AND I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THE WILDFLOWERS COMING NOT TOO FAR AWAY. I MEAN, SOME OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL INITIATIVES THAT WE'VE TAKEN ON OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS IN OUR LANDSCAPE, A BIG ONE HAS BEEN BUTTERFLY GARDENS. OF COURSE, THE CITY IS A SIGNATORY TO THE MAYOR'S MONARCH PLEDGE. IT HAS BEEN FOR FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. WE'VE HAD GREAT SUCCESS BUILDING BUTTERFLY GARDENS AND PARKS, INCLUDING YALE PARK, PRAIRIE CREEK PARK AND BUCKNER PARK. THOSE WERE ALL DONE AS MATCHING FUND BEAUTIFICATION PROJECTS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS IN THE AREA. WE ALSO DO VOLUNTEER TREE PLANTINGS AT LEAST TWICE A YEAR, USUALLY FOR TEXAS ARBOR DAY AND AGAIN FOR NATIONAL ARBOR DAY, BECAUSE ONE ARBOR DAY ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH FOR THE CITY OF RICHARDSON, WE GOT TO CELEBRATE IT TWICE. AND ONE COMING UP NEXT NEXT FRIDAY AT LOOKOUT PARK, ONCE AGAIN IN PARTNERSHIP WITH ONE EARTH, ONE CHANCE. AND THAT LEADS ME TO MY NEXT POINT. WE WERE JUST INFORMED LAST WEEK THAT WE WERE APPROVED FOR OUR THIRD YEAR RECOGNITION AS A TREE CITY USA, WHICH WE'RE ALL VERY, VERY PROUD OF GETTING THAT ONCE AGAIN. SO THAT'S GREAT. AND THOSE VOLUNTEER TREE PLANTINGS AND OBSERVANCE OF ARBOR DAY CERTAINLY HELPS WITH THAT, BECAUSE THAT'S ONE OF THE STANDARDS FROM THE ARBOR DAY FOUNDATION. AND THEN I WANTED TO TALK ALSO IN GENERAL TERMS ABOUT SOME OF OUR MANAGEMENT STRATEGIES WHEN IT COMES TO MANAGING LANDSCAPES AND TURF. 
          YOU'LL SEE A COUPLE PICTURES THERE OF SOME OF THE INVASIVE SPECIES THAT THAT KYLE AND I FIGHT WITH ON A REGULAR BASIS. ON THE TOP THERE IS DALLAS GRASS, AND BELOW THAT IS JOHNSON GRASS. THOSE IN TURF AREAS ESPECIALLY ARE ARE REAL PAIN AND REQUIRE VERY, VERY CAREFUL MANAGEMENT BECAUSE THEY GROW SO FAST. IN THE CASE OF DALLAS GRASS, JOHNSON GRASS AND KERA BLUESTEM, WHICH I'LL GET TO IN A MINUTE. THOSE ARE A NON-NATIVE GRASSY WEEDS THAT WERE ACTUALLY IMPORTED TO THE UNITED STATES IN THE 19TH AND 20TH CENTURY, WITH THE THINKING THAT THEY WOULD BE GOOD AS FORAGE CROPS FOR CATTLE GRAZING, WHICH IS TRUE BECAUSE THEY GROW VERY FAST. THEY PROVIDE LOTS OF ENERGY TO GRAZING ANIMALS, BUT THEY GROW TOO FAST. THEY GO TO SEED TOO FAST, AND THEY SPREAD VERY, VERY QUICKLY AND AGGRESSIVELY. AND SO THEY WERE NOT PLANTED HERE IN OUR PARKS, BUT THEY'RE IN OUR PARKS NOW. AND THAT'S A CONSTANT THING WE HAVE TO MANAGE IN THE IN THE CASE OF JOHNSON GRASS, THE SEEDS CAN ACTUALLY LAY DORMANT IN THE SOIL FOR YEARS. AND ALL IT TAKES IS COMING THROUGH, TILLING IT UP, DISTURBING IT A LITTLE BIT, AND THEY WILL REACTIVATE. AND THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT A FOUR FOOT TALL STAIN OF JOHNSON GRASS SOMEWHERE, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, NOT NOT CONDUCIVE TO A WELL MANICURED PARK. SO WE HAVE TO MANAGE THOSE CAREFULLY. WE ALSO MAKE SURE EVEN IN AREAS WHERE WE HAVE REDUCED MOWING, LIKE I MENTIONED EARLIER, THAT WE'RE ENSURING ACCESS FOR RECREATION OPPORTUNITIES. AND THE BEST EXAMPLE OF THAT IS AT BRECKENRIDGE PARK, WHERE WE LET THE AREAS AROUND THE PONDS THERE AT RENNER ROAD GROW UP. WE ALWAYS MAKE SURE THAT WE CUT PATHS DOWN TO THE WATER'S EDGE FOR ANGLERS, BECAUSE A LOT OF FISHERMEN LIKE TO USE THAT POND. 
          SO WHEN IT'S GROWN UP, THAT'S GREAT TO STABILIZE THE BANK. IT'S GREAT FOR HABITAT, BUT NOT SO GREAT FOR SOMEBODY WHO WANTS TO GO GET A HOOK WET AND SEE IF THEY CAN CATCH A FISH OUT OF THE POND. SO WE ALWAYS MAKE SURE WE HAVE A FEW AREAS SO PEOPLE CAN ACCESS THE POND THERE, AND NATURAL AREAS LIKE THAT. WE OVERSEE VERY, VERY CAREFULLY TO MAKE SURE WE'RE MINIMIZING ENCOUNTERS WITH WILDLIFE. AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE DO HEAR ABOUT OCCASIONALLY, USUALLY SNAKES. IF YOU'VE SPENT MUCH TIME AT BRECKENRIDGE PARK, YOU MAY HAVE SEEN THE SIGNS THAT SAY BE CAREFUL. THERE ARE NO POISONOUS SNAKES IN THE AREA. SO WHENEVER WE GET REPORTS OF THAT, WE MAKE SURE THAT OUR MANAGEMENT PRACTICES ARE NOT ALLOWING THAT TO BE ANY MORE 
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FREQUENT THAN IT HAS TO BE. AND IF WE HAVE TO CUT SOME AREAS BACK BECAUSE OF THAT, THEN WE'LL CERTAINLY DO SO BECAUSE WE WANT TO WE WANT TO MINIMIZE THAT ENCOUNTER FROM OUR CITIZENS. I MEAN, HERE'S A PICTURE OF OUR BLUESTEM, WHICH I'M SURE YOU'VE SEEN RECENTLY. 
          IT ALWAYS COMES UP THIS TIME OF YEAR. THAT'S THAT TALL, THIN, GRASSY WEED. WE SEE A LOT ON MEDIANS, RIGHTS OF WAYS. EVEN IN SOME PARKS. IT'S KIND OF A RUST COLORED APPEARANCE. THAT'S ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE GRASSES THAT WERE BROUGHT IN FOR FORAGE, THE CRPS AND CRPS. BLUESTEM STANDS FOR KING RANCH. THEY'RE THE ONES WHO BROUGHT IT TO TO CENTRAL TEXAS. AND NOW IT'S HERE. AND THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF A FACEBOOK POST THAT THAT WE PUT UP RECENTLY TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT. IT IS VERY, VERY DIFFICULT TO CONTROL IT. LAUGHS. 
          IT ROUND UP. ALL WE CAN DO IS MOW IT, BUT IT WILL BE 12IN IN THREE DAYS AFTER YOU MOW IT, PUTTING SEED HEADS ON. SO WE JUST HAVE TO TAKE THAT AS IT COMES. THE GOOD THING ABOUT IT IS AS SOON AS THE TEMPERATURE DROPS, IT DOESN'T TAKE THE COLD WEATHER WELL AND IT WILL GO AWAY AGAIN UNTIL NEXT YEAR WHEN WE'LL HAVE THIS PROBLEM ALL OVER AGAIN. BUT WE DO TRY TO MANAGE THAT AS CLOSELY AS POSSIBLE, AS WELL AS POSSIBLE. BUT ALL OF THESE AREAS WE TRY TO MAINTAIN WITH SENSITIVITY, SENSITIVITY TO ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP AND AND THAT'S ALL. 
          WE DON'T TRY TO SPRAY OUT THE BLUESTEM BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, IT'S VERY, VERY HARD TO CONTROL CHEMICALLY. IT WOULD BE A WASTE TO APPLY CHEMICALS ON THAT FOR VERY LITTLE RETURN. SO IT'S NOT WORTH IT BECAUSE OF, OF USING THOSE CHEMICALS, GETTING THEM INTO THE SOIL. SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT BECAUSE WE KNOW MOWING IS THE BEST THING WE CAN DO. AND WE JUST HAVE TO PUT UP WITH IT FOR A WHILE. AND SO NOW I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT SOME ALTERNATIVE METHODS THAT MAY BE USEFUL THAT WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO LOOK AT THAT MIGHT HELP FILL SOME GAPS IN OUR LANDSCAPE MAINTENANCE. THE FIRST OF THOSE IS AN EXPANSION OF LOW OR NO MOW AREAS. AND SO ONCE AGAIN, THIS WOULD BE TARGETED REDUCTION OR EVEN ELIMINATION OF TRADITIONAL MOWING. THIS HAS BEEN AN EFFECTIVE STRATEGY FOR US IN SOME AREAS, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER. AND OTHER CITIES ALSO USE THIS PRACTICE. YOU CAN SEE THE PICTURE THERE IS FROM THE CITY OF PLANO THAT'S IN AN ENCORE EASEMENT OUT NEAR OAK POINT PARK AND NATURE PRESERVE. 
          THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT'S UNHEARD OF. I MEAN, THIS DEFINITELY HAS A PLACE IN THE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. AND WE'VE BEEN USING IT TO TO GREAT EFFECT. ONE THING WE WORRY ABOUT IS THAT TO ESTABLISH LIKE A 100% STAND OF NATIVE PLANTS, THERE IS SIGNIFICANT MANAGEMENT THAT IS NECESSARY AT THE OUTSET. AND THAT'S LARGELY BECAUSE OF SOME OF THOSE INVASIVE SPECIES I MENTIONED EARLIER. THEY ARE THEY ARE HERE, THEY'RE IN THE GROUND, THEY'RE IN THE TURF. 
          AND SO WHEN WE STOP MOWING, THOSE ARE GOING TO COME UP. AND WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE'VE EITHER ELIMINATED THOSE BEFOREHAND OR TAKING APPROPRIATE STEPS TO GET RID OF THOSE. AFTER WE'VE STARTED LETTING AN AREA KIND OF BE A NO NO OR LOW MOW AREA. AND THAT THAT IS ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL TO PREVENT THE SPREAD AND ALSO TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOT UNSIGHTLY. AND NO AREAS CAN CERTAINLY SUPPORT BIODIVERSITY AND MAY REDUCE MOWING COSTS IN THE LONG TERM. SOME OF THAT IS OFFSET BY THAT MANAGEMENT THAT'S REQUIRED FOR INVASIVE SPECIES. AT THE OUTSET OF A PROGRAM LIKE THAT. AND THEN ALSO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN IN THE IN THE ETHER A LITTLE BIT LATELY IS VEGETATION CONTROL WITH GOAT BROWSING. AND THIS IS A PROCESS THAT WE'VE BEEN AWARE OF FOR SOME TIME. AND THAT'S BASICALLY USING HERDS OF GOATS, WHICH YOU CAN HIRE TO COME IN AND MANAGE UNWANTED BRUSH VEGETATION, INVASIVE SPECIES IN AN AREA. ACCORDING TO SOME OF THE CONTRACTORS WE'VE SPOKEN TO, GOATS CAN CLEAR UP TO ONE ACRE A DAY, DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF THE HERD THAT YOU BRING IN, AND THEY WILL CLEAR FROM THE GROUND UP TO PROBABLY ABOUT 4 TO 5FT, DEPENDING ON HOW TALL THEY CAN REACH. I SUPPOSE IF YOU HAD A VERY LARGE GOAT, THEY MIGHT GET A LITTLE BIT HIGHER, BUT I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY A GOOD RULE OF THUMB FOR HOW FAR THEY CAN CAN COME UP FROM THE GROUND. 
          THEY ARE LIKELY TO FEED ON ANY AND ALL PLANT MATERIAL IN AN AREA, BECAUSE GOATS ARE NOTORIOUSLY WILL EAT JUST ABOUT ANYTHING SO INVASIVE SPECIES, UNDESIRABLE BRUSH, BUT ALSO DESIRED PLANTS AS WELL, POTENTIALLY. SO THE WAY IT WORKS IS A CONTRACTOR. YOU HIRE THEM, THEY COME IN AND THEY'LL FENCE OFF KIND OF DISCRETE AREAS, MEANING CONTAINED FOR THE GOATS TO WORK IN. SO QUARTER ACRE, HALF AN ACRE, DEPENDING ON THE AREA, HOW MANY GOATS THEY HAVE AND LET THEM EAT IN THAT AREA FOR AS LONG AS IT TAKES. AND THE THEY'LL HAVE ANOTHER PIN SET UP ADJACENT TO THAT. MOVE THE GOATS INTO THAT ONE, CORRAL THEM THERE, TAKE THE FENCE FROM THE FIRST AREA AND KIND OF LEAPFROG FROG ALONG THROUGH THE ENTIRE AREA THAT YOU HAVE. SO THE GOATS ARE CONTAINED AND MOVED FROM ONE CONTAINED AREA TO THE NEXT. OF COURSE, CITY STAFF WOULD BE INVOLVED IN MONITORING AND OVERSEEING THAT PROCESS. MOST OF THE CONTRACTORS WHO DO THIS WORK ALSO PROVIDE A SHEPHERD WHO STAYS ON SITE WITH THE GOATS 24 OVER SEVEN WHILE THEY'RE WORKING, WHICH IS SOMETHING WE WOULD HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR AS WELL. WE HAVE TALKED TO SOME OTHER CITIES, SOME COLLEAGUES WHO HAVE USED 
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GOAT BROWSING IN THEIR AREAS TO CONTROL VEGETATION, NOTABLY ARLINGTON AND PFLUGERVILLE. WE THINK THAT THE POTENTIAL USE HERE IN RICHARDSON MAY BE LIMITED, AS MOST OF OUR PARK AREAS ARE MOWED AND MAINTAINED TO A FAIRLY HIGH LEVEL. ONE THING WE DID HEAR FROM BOTH ARLINGTON AND PFLUGERVILLE IS THAT RETURN VISITS ARE NECESSARY TO MAINTAIN CLEARING. 
          YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, GOATS CAN REACH UP SO FAR, YOU KNOW, IN SOME CASES, IF YOU HAVE INVASIVE SPECIES THAT ARE ARE REALLY TALL, THEY'LL GET FIVE FEET FROM THE GROUND. BUT NOW WHAT'S AT THE TOP? SO THERE STILL IS POTENTIAL FOR THOSE INVASIVE SPECIES TO, YOU KNOW, DROP MORE SEEDS AND TO, TO TRY TO TAKE A STAND AGAIN. SO IN THE CASE OF PFLUGERVILLE, THAT'S AN ANNUAL PROJECT FOR THEM IS TO BRING GOATS IN TO DO THIS CLEARING. ANOTHER THING THAT WE THOUGHT ABOUT IS THAT AREAS NEAR STREETS OR DARK CORRIDORS WOULD PROBABLY NEED PRETTY CLOSE MANAGEMENT. WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT VERY, VERY INTENTIONALLY, JUST IN CASE GOATS WERE TO ESCAPE CONFINEMENT, WHICH IS NOT UNHEARD OF. AS A MATTER OF FACT, OUR OUR COLLEAGUE IN PFLUGERVILLE SAID THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED THERE ONE TIME. AND, YOU KNOW, FORTUNATELY, NO, NO INJURIES TO HUMANS OR GOATS. THEY WERE ABLE TO TO CATCH THEM PRETTY QUICK, BUT SOMETHING WE'D CERTAINLY WANT TO BE AWARE OF ANYWHERE IN RICHARDSON WHERE THAT MIGHT BE A POSSIBILITY. AND SO THAT'S A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF SOME OF THESE ALTERNATIVE METHODS. BUT REALLY THE FEEDBACK WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS, IS JUST TO UNDERSTAND WHAT OUTCOMES YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADVANCE THROUGH SOME OF THESE ALTERNATIVE MEANS THAT MIGHT RESOLVE ANY UNMET MAINTENANCE NEEDS THAT YOU PERCEIVE IN OUR SYSTEM, YOU KNOW, AND FURTHER, IS THERE INTEREST IN EVALUATING EXPANDING LOW, LOW OR NO MOREARR BOTH? AND ARE THERE ANY SPECIFIC LOCATIONS OR CONDITIONS THAT THAT YOU THINK WE SHOULD EVALUATE? AND THEN BASED ON YOUR FEEDBACK, WE WOULD RECOMMEND A REVIEW BY THE PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION BEFORE WE CAME BACK TO YOU WITH THE RESULT OF THAT, THAT RESEARCH AND EVALUATION AS THE NEXT STEP. AND WITH THAT, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE SOME ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL? COUNCIL MEMBER? CORCORAN? MAYOR, I DON'T I THINK MY MY UNDERSTANDING IS THIS IS SOMETHING THAT MAYBE YOU OR AT LEAST THE GOAT PART, WAS SOMETHING YOU WERE INTERESTED IN AND HAD SORT OF BROUGHT ON TO THE AGENDA. SO I GUESS BEFORE I MAKE COMMENTS, I'D BE CURIOUS AS TO YOUR YOUR I'LL GIVE A PITCH ON IT. I'LL GIVE A COUPLE A COUPLE ANECDOTES, BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY FOR THE GROUP TO KIND OF THINK ABOUT. SO STARTING OFF WITH THE NOMO MEDIANS. CITY MANAGER MAGNER AND I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO SPEND A COUPLE HOURS WITH THE FOLKS IN LEWISVILLE, PROBABLY ABOUT A MONTH OR TWO AFTER I BECAME MAYOR, LOOKING AT WHAT THEY WERE DOING OVER THERE IN LEWISVILLE ON THE NOMO MEDIANS WAS INTERESTING. IN IN THAT VISIT WAS NOT ONLY WAS IT SOMETHING THEY WERE REALLY PROUD OF, BUT IT WAS SOMETHING THAT OVERALL. AND THIS PROBABLY DOESN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THAT INITIAL PART THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, SEAN. BUT OVERALL, THEY WERE LOOKING AT A ONE YEAR PAYBACK FOR, YOU KNOW, THE SEEDS AND WHAT THEY WERE DOING. AND THEY BASICALLY HAD YEAR ROUND WILDFLOWERS ESSENTIALLY AVAILABLE IN THESE IN THESE AREAS. I THINK IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO PILOT SOMETHING LIKE THAT USING A SEED MIX AND SEE WHAT OUR OWN EXPERIENCE IS. THEY HAD A LOT OF WINS AND, AND SOME LEARNINGS THAT THEY GOTUT OF THAT. ONE OF THEIR LEARNINGS WAS EXPLAINING TO RESIDENTS WHY YOU WERE ALLOWING GRASS TO GROW. THE GOOD NEWS FOR US IS THAT OUR RESIDENTS ARE KIND OF USED TO SEEING AT LEAST THE START OF WILDFLOWER SEASON. AND SO IT WOULD JUST BE AN EXTENDED WILDFLOWER SEASON IN THOSE PARTICULAR TEST AREAS. ON THE GOAT SIDE, MR. MAGNER AND I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO WOODCREEK CHURCH, WHERE THEY WERE ACTUALLY UTILIZING THE GOATS OVER THERE. IN THEIR CASE, THEY WERE HAVING A REALLY HARD TIME CLEARING A VERY HEAVILY WOODED AREA, ESPECIALLY WITH POISON IVY. THEY COULD EITHER USE ALL SORTS OF POISONS THAT WERE GOING TO COST THEM SOMETHING LIKE $7,000, OR THEY COULD SPEND $6,000 AND HAVE GOATS DO IT. THEY DID IT THE FIRST TIME WITH GOATS FULLY CLEARED THE AREA, GAVE THEM JUST REALLY GREAT VISIBILITY, AND THEY COULD FINALLY KIND OF WORK IN THOSE AREAS THAT HADN'T BEEN TOUCHED IN A LONG TIME. AND SO THE THOUGHT PROCESS ON THAT WOULD BE POTENTIALLY HAVING TALKED TO A FEW FOLKS SPECIFICALLY IN OUR SPRING CREEK NATURE TRAIL AREA, AND IN THAT PRESERVE, THERE'S A NUMBER OF AREAS THAT YOU WOULD CALL A DEAD ZONE FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THERE'S SOMETHING CALLED PRIVET THAT GROWS IN THAT AREA PRETTY, PRETTY HEAVILY. IT'S NOT EASY TO GET RID OF, BUT ONE GROUP OF TOOLS THAT REALLY LIKE PRIVET ARE GOATS. AND SO IF WE WAITED UNTIL HYPOTHETICALLY, COOLER WEATHER THAN PRIVET 
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WOULD BE GREEN AND EVERYTHING ELSE WOULD NOT. AND SO THEY'D GO AFTER THE STUFF THAT WE'D WANT THEM TO GO AFTER PRIMARILY, OBVIOUSLY NOT EXCLUSIVELY. SO THAT WOULD BE THE PLACE THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY TEST IT. AND AGAIN, A PILOT WOULD PROBABLY LOOK LIKE A $5,000 EFFORT, BUT YOU WOULD GET A CLEARING OF AN AREA THAT HASN'T HAD A SON TO SOIL IN SOME TIME. SO THOSE ARE THE TWO ELEMENTS. AND WHAT WHAT ALL'S INVOLVED IN THEM THAT I KNOW OF. COUNCILMEMBER JUSTICE. 
          YEAH. I MEAN, YOU TOUCHED A LITTLE BIT ON MY QUESTION. I MEAN, I THINK IT'S INTERESTING. 
          I GUESS MY QUESTION ON THE NO MOW MEDIAN, JUST I GUESS THAT'S NOT WHAT WAS PRESENTED. AND SO I'M A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED. IT WAS MORE SO LIKE, YOU KNOW, ON A, ON A BIG TRAIL OR A BIG AREA. 
          BUT YOURS IS SPECIFIC TO MEDIANS. NO, THEY HAD IT IN A COUPLE POWER CORRIDORS AS WELL. 
          I WANT TO SAY ONE OF THE AREAS WE LOOKED AT LOOKED A LOT LIKE THE POWER CORRIDOR YOU WERE SHOWING THERE. ALL RIGHT. WELL, YEAH, I THINK I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN KNOWING, I GUESS, HOW THAT WOULD FIT IN WITH OUR CURRENT STRATEGY OF BEAUTIFICATION FOR MEDIANS. I'M NOT OPPOSED AT ALL TO WILDFLOWERS YEAR ROUND. I THINK THAT SOUNDS INTERESTING AND GREAT, BUT YEAH, HOW WOULD THAT WHAT IS THE COST AND HOW WOULD THAT FIT IN TO OUR CURRENT STRATEGY? WELL, LET ME LET ME ANSWER. SEAN'S TAKING SOME NOTES. THAT'S NOT WE'RE NOT PREPARED TO EVEN SPEAK TO THAT TONIGHT. WELL, YEAH, I'M TRYING TO BE I'M TRYING TO HONOR THE RULE OF ORDER AND PROCEDURE THAT YOU GUYS HAVE ADOPTED FOR NEW TOPICS. AND SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO, BEFORE WE INVEST EVEN MORE TIME IN RESEARCH AND PUTTING TOGETHER PILOT PROGRAMS, I'M TRYING TO GET A CONSENSUS THAT THAT'S WHAT THE COUNCIL WANTS TO DO. SO THAT'S REALLY THAT'S REALLY ALL WE'RE ASKING TONIGHT. IT'S THE FOUR QUESTIONS THAT HE HAD UP THERE. 
          YEAH, I HEAR I HAVE I MEAN, IT SOUNDS INTERESTING IN THEORY, BUT I THINK I HAVE MORE QUESTIONS THAN ANSWERS. SO I GUESS MY RESPONSE WOULD BE I NEED MORE INFORMATION, WHICH I GUESS WOULD BE YOUR NEXT STEP HERE. I DON'T KNOW, LIKE I, YOU KNOW, WE'VE JUST HEARD WHAT OUR STRATEGY IS ABOUT MEDIANS. WE'VE BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THAT STRATEGY IN PARKS MAINTENANCE. SO I, YOU KNOW, IN THEORY, I THINK WE CONTINUE DOING THAT. BUT IF IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A REALLY HEAVY LIFT AND WE HAVE SOME MEDIANS WHERE WE HAVEN'T IMPLEMENTED OUR NEW STRATEGY AND WE CAN DO YEAR ROUND WILDFLOWERS. I'M NOT AGAINST THAT EITHER, BUT I WOULD NEED MORE INFORMATION, I THINK. YEAH. WELL, I MEAN, OUR RECOMMENDATION IS IF YOU IF YOU IF YOU THINK THAT THESE ARE TWO THESE TWO TOPICS ARE WORTHY OF MORE DISCUSSION, WE WOULD LIKE TO BRING IT TO THE PARKS COMMISSION, WHICH I THINK IS, IS, IS A TOOL THAT WE HAVE LET STAFF WORK WITH THEM TO DEVELOP THIS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, SPEND SOME MORE TIME ON IT, AND THEN BRING IT BACK TO THE COUNCIL FOR WITH, WITH POTENTIALLY A PARKS, PARKS COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION. YEAH. I MEAN, I THINK THAT THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. I MEAN, BECAUSE MY QUESTION ON THE GOATS IS, IS COST LIKE, IS IT, IS IT, I GUESS, WHAT PROBLEM ARE WE TRYING TO SOLVE? OR YOU GOT AT IT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS IN THE NATURE PRESERVE THAT PERHAPS THAT THEY WOULD, THEY WOULD EAT. BUT I HEARD MR. ROGERS SAY THEY WOULD EAT THE STUFF WE WANT TO KEEP TOO. AND SO I GUESS I WOULD WANT MORE INFORMATION ON THAT AS WELL. AND SO I'M NOT OPPOSED TO EITHER, BUT I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA TO SEND IT TO THE PARKS COMMISSION AND HAVE THEM GIVE US MORE INFORMATION THAN, THAN WE'RE GOING TO GET TONIGHT. 
          COUNCILMEMBER. YEAH. THANK YOU. MAYOR, KIND OF TAGGING ON TO THAT. I WAS NOT FAMILIAR WITH PRIVET OR DEAD ZONE AREAS IN THE IN THE NATURE PRESERVE. WAS THAT SOMETHING IDENTIFIED? SO AS I WAS LOOKING AT THE FIRST QUESTION AMONG THE FOUR, WHAT WHAT OUTCOMES MAINTENANCE PRACTICES NEED TO BE MAYBE RESOLVE ANY UNMET MAINTENANCE NEEDS. SO I WAS NOT AWARE OF THAT BEING AN UNMET MAINTENANCE NEED. OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT DEPARTMENT AND OR THE COMMISSION HAVE IDENTIFIED AS A I KNOW THERE'S A YEAR ROUND ASSESSMENT OF PARKS AND AND TRAIL, YOU KNOW, ASSETS AROUND TOWN. AND DURING MY TIME ON THAT COMMISSION, I WAS NOT AWARE OF ANY A NEED FOR THAT IN THAT AREA. WAS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S KIND OF NEWLY DEVELOPED OR NEWLY DISCOVERED TO BE A PROBLEM, I GUESS? NO, IT'S IT'S BEEN THERE FOR, FOR YEARS. 
          WE'RE CERTAINLY AWARE OF THAT. THAT IS THAT IS NOT A, A NEED THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED OR SOMETHING THAT WE, WE WORK ON A LOT JUST BECAUSE IT'S SO, SO DIFFICULT TO, TO REMOVE. YOU KNOW, THAT'S ONE AREA, LIKE I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE'VE HAD GREAT SUCCESS WITH VOLUNTEERS. 
          WE SEND BOY SCOUTS THERE OCCASIONALLY. AND, YOU KNOW, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME CORPORATE PARTNERS WHO'VE COME AND HELPED US REMOVE PRIVET THERE. BUT THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE BUDGET FOR OR SPEND A LOT OF TIME DOING OURSELVES. COUNCILMEMBER BURDETTE, JUST I'LL ADD JUST A COUPLE THINGS. I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF WALK THE AREA WITH, AND I KNOW MR. ROGERS PROBABLY HAS AS WELL WITH SOME OF THE MASTER NATURALISTS AND THAT SORT OF THING. AND THE OVERALL THING, WHEN I CALL IT A DEAD ZONE, IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT 
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MISLEADING. IT LOOKS VERY GREEN. BUT FROM A BIODIVERSITY PERSPECTIVE, THE ONLY THING THAT'S REALLY LIVING THERE IS PRIVET, WHICH MEANS IT'S CHOKING OUT ANYTHING ELSE THAT COULD LIVE THERE, WHICH IS WHERE BIODIVERSITY WORKS. AND SO THE IDEA WOULD BE YOU CLEAR THE PRIVET, YOU GIVE A CHANCE FOR THINGS UNDERNEATH IT TO BE ABLE TO LIVE, AND IT GETS A LITTLE BIT OF NATURAL FERTILIZER IN THE PROCESS. AND THEN IT GOES FROM THERE. IT SORT OF HAS THE OPPORTUNITY WITH MOST OF THESE GOAT EFFORTS AS WELL, TO BE A LITTLE BIT OF A COMMUNITY EVENT WHERE PEOPLE CAN COME OUT AND SEE THE GOATS. SOME CITIES EVEN NAME A GOAT. 
          IT'S ALL SORTS OF FUN. COUNCIL MEMBER CORCORAN, I I'VE DONE A LOT OF RESEARCH SINCE THIS CAME ON THE AGENDA ABOUT GOAT MOWING, AND I HAVE SOME FAIRLY STRONG OPINIONS, BUT I DO THINK THAT THE MOST APPROPRIATE THING TO DO IS RESERVE OUR DISCUSSION AND WAIT FOR PARKS COMMISSION TO REALLY DIG INTO THIS. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IN MY TIME THERE, I HAVEN'T SEEN THEM REALLY IDENTIFY AS A TOP ISSUE, BUT CERTAINLY THEY GET VERY IN-DEPTH UPDATES FROM STAFF ON A MONTHLY BASIS. AND THEY'D BE REALLY EQUIPPED TO, TO DIG INTO THIS AND MAYBE EVEN IDENTIFY, YOU KNOW, A RECOMMENDATION THAT'S NUANCED, RIGHT? MAYBE ONE AREA NEEDS IT MORE THAN OTHERS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO FOR BOTH THESE TOPICS, I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE MOVING FORWARD WITHOUT A PARKS COMMISSION STAMP OF APPROVAL. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER GRIFFIN. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WELL, VERY INTERESTING DISCUSSION. YOU KNOW, WE LIVE IN A CITY THAT'S PRETTY MUCH FULLY DEVELOPED AND VERY BUSY CITY, AND PEOPLE LOVE OUR PARKS AND OTHER PLACES. AND NOW IF WE LOOK AT DIFFERENT OPTIONS OF LIKE LANDSCAPING, HOW WE CAN MINIMIZE THE MOWING AND ALL THESE THINGS, YOU KNOW, THEN DEFINITELY AS A COUNCIL, I THINK WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT, HOW TO SAVE THE MONEY BUDGET. THAT SHOULD BE OUR FOCUS, BUT HOW TO DO THE JOB. EXACTLY. COUNCIL PROBABLY GOING TO BE SPENDING LOTS OF HOURS DISCUSSING A LOT MORE DETAIL THAN I THINK THE STAFF CAN COME UP WITH SOME OF THE IDEA, AND WE CAN ENCOURAGE THEM TO LOOK AT THINGS INSTEAD OF MICROMANAGING WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE USING THE LAWN MOWER TO MOW THE LAND, OR THE WHAT YOU CALL THE OTHER THINGS, ANY, ANY OTHER DEVICE TO MOW THE LAWN OR BRING A GOAT. YOU KNOW, IN THE PAST WE HAD COW, WE HAD GOATS, BUT WE MOVED ON AND WE HAVE NOW LAWN MOWER AND OTHER THINGS. AND WE DO MANAGE THE PARKS AND OTHER PLACES MUCH MORE DESIRABLE WAY. SO AND DEFINITELY I'M NOT INTERESTED GOING BACK TO THE OLD AGE, UNLESS IT'S BENEFIT US PRACTICALLY AND SAVES US MONEY. AND I SEE WE HAVE PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE PARKS OR THE DEPARTMENT NEED TO LOOK AT THAT, IDENTIFY MORE SPECIFIC AREA WHERE THEY CAN USE THE GOATS AND OTHER THINGS. BUT I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY WHERE VERY LIMITED ON THAT THINGS. AND SOMETIMES IT'S BETTER TO LEAVE THE NATURE AS IS NOT LET NOT DISTURB THAT BECAUSE IT'S NOT ONLY THE GRASS OR THE WEEDS OR OTHER THINGS. THERE'S SOME OTHER ANIMALS THAT LIVE THERE. SO EVEN THE, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES IT'S BETTER NOT TO EVEN TAKE THE TREE OFF WHEN IT DIED. LET THE TREE NATURALLY DECAY THE AREA. SO THESE ARE VERY TECHNICAL ISSUE. IT NEEDS EXPERT OPINION, EXPERT MANAGEMENT. AND WE CAN WE CAN SPEND HOURS AFTER HOURS DISCUSSING BRINGING COWS, GOATS AND ALL THIS. I THINK WE YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE LIKE, IT'S GOING TO JUST TAKE OUR TIME A LOT MORE. BUT IF THERE IS LIKE A PLACE THAT YOU COULD, YOU KNOW, BRING THE KIDS AND SHOW THEM WHAT COULD BE DONE, IT COULD BE A SMALL PILOT THINGS IN ONE AREA. I THINK THAT'S ABOUT IT PRACTICALLY. IT'S NOT PRACTICAL FOR US. I THINK I WOULD SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN HAVE ALTERNATE LANDSCAPING, YOU KNOW, ALONG THE TRAIL, IF WE COULD HAVE A LOT MORE TREE GROW SO THAT WHEN WE JOG AROUND, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN WE CAN JOG DURING EVEN HOT, HOT SUMMER THAT WILL MINIMIZE, YOU KNOW, LIKE EVEN LANDSCAPE, YOU KNOW, HAVING SOME GRASS MOW THE GRASS. SO THOSE ARE THE DISCUSSION. I THINK THE PARKS CAN LOOK AT THAT. AND, BUT I WOULD NOT BE, WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO REALLY DICTATE EXACTLY WHAT TO DO. I THINK THEY NEED TO COME UP WITH THE IDEA AND GIVE US PRESENTATION THAT THE FUTURE, THE LANDSCAPE WILL LOOK LIKE THIS VERSUS TODAY LIKE THIS. SO SO THESE ARE, YOU KNOW, MUCH MORE BIGGER PROJECT FOR THE STAFFS. BUT FOR US, I THINK, I MEAN, THIS TOPIC, I THINK I THINK I'LL BE HAPPY IF THE DEPARTMENT LOOKS AT IT MORE CLOSELY THAN WE DICTATE THESE THINGS. THAT'S MY OPINION. COUNCIL MEMBER DORIAN, THANK YOU. I, I HAVE TO AGREE. I'D LIKE TO GET FEEDBACK AND SOME DIRECTION FROM THE PARKS DEPARTMENT TO SORT OF COME UP WITH THE PROS AND CONS AND ALSO THE BUDGET THAT IT WOULD TAKE 
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TO DO THIS. YOU KNOW, I FIND THE GOAT BROWSING VERY INTERESTING. I KNOW THERE'S SOME OTHER CITIES THAT ARE CURRENTLY INVOLVED WITH, WHETHER IT'S A PILOT PROGRAM OR USING IT ON A CONSISTENT BASIS. I THE ONLY THING I'M, EVEN THOUGH I LIKE GOAT BROWSING, I'M JUST CONCERNED. CONTROLLING THAT. AND I KNOW WE HIRE OUT A FIRM THAT POTENTIALLY SET UP A FENCE LINE AND CONTROLS HOW THE GOATS AND WHERE THEY GO, BUT I JUST WOULDN'T WANT TO SEE ANY OF THE GOATS ESCAPE. AND SINCE WE'RE IN SUCH A LANDLOCKED AREA, I WOULD WANT TO SEE ANY, YOU KNOW, DAMAGE OR TO THE TO THE GOATS. SO I WOULD LIKE TO AT LEAST KIND OF UNDERSTAND HOW THAT WOULD WORK. AND HONESTLY, REALLY THE AREAS THERE THAT WOULD PROBABLY WORK WOULD BE THE PANHANDLE, POTENTIALLY THE SPRING CREEK AREA. THOSE ARE PRIMARILY OUR MAIN OPEN AREAS UP IN BRECKENRIDGE. SO I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING YEAR ROUND WILDFLOWERS, ALTHOUGH I KNOW THE WILDFLOWERS SEEM TEND TO BURN OFF WHEN IT STARTS GETTING REALLY HOT. SO WHAT WOULD BE IN PLACE OF THAT IF WE WERE TO LET THOSE GROW NATURALLY IN THE MEDIUMS? ALTHOUGH IF WE COULD FIND SOMETHING, I'D BE OPEN TO THE MEDIANS, POTENTIALLY PROVIDING SOME TYPE OF NATURAL GROWTH. AND I THINK ALSO IMPORTANTLY IS THE RESIDENTS, I THINK, SORT OF LOOK FOR US TO CONTINUE ELEVATING THE CITY BY CREATING MAINTENANCE. THEY WANT TO SEE MANICURED PARKS. SO I WOULD LIKE TO KIND OF SEE WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE AND WHERE AND HOW MUCH OF THOSE PARKS WOULD BE CUT OR MAINTAINED. IS IT GOING TO COST MORE MONEY TO MAINTAIN THOSE AREAS THAN IT WOULD LIKE AS WE'RE GENERALLY CUTTING? I THINK YOU SAID EVERY SEVEN DAYS ON THE PARKS. SO THOSE ARE SOME THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO JUST TO GET SOME FEEDBACK ON AS YOU'RE GOING THROUGH THE STUDY. AGAIN, I'M NOT OPPOSED OR, OR UNOPPOSED. I JUST THINK I'D LIKE TO SEE HOW WE CAN UTILIZE THIS AND THE AREAS THAT WILL KEEP OUR COSTS DOWN, AND ALSO KEEP THE AMOUNT OF TIME SPENT FROM STAFF. I DO KNOW THAT THIS IS NOT A TACTIC THAT'S ON OUR OUR 2026 2027 TACTIC. BUT AND I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT THAT WE STILL HAVE TO COVER. SO I ALSO WANT TO LOOK AT THAT TOO. IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE POTENTIALLY WILL CIRCLE BACK TO, YOU KNOW, UNDER THE NEW COUNCIL PARTICULARLY, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THAT TAKES TO PUT THE PROGRAM TOGETHER, BUT POTENTIALLY WE COULD LOOK AT THAT AS SOMETHING TO ADD AS WE REDO THE TACTICS AND CREATE OUR OUR NEW GOALS. POTENTIALLY THIS COULD BE SOMETHING WE COULD CIRCLE BACK TO DURING THAT TIME PERIOD. AND THAT'S JUST A SUGGESTION AT THIS TIME. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHENRIDER. THANK YOU, MAYOR SEAN, THANKS FOR YOUR PRESENTATION TONIGHT. VERY INFORMATIVE. FROM MY STANDPOINT. I MEAN, I'VE THIS IS ONE OF THOSE AREAS WHERE I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE A PROFESSIONAL STAFF, WE HAVE EXPERTS, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE HEARD THOUGHTS ABOUT GOAT BROWSING ABOUT THE WILDFLOWER. I, I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN SHAMSUL THAT Y'ALL NEED TO TAKE THAT Y'ALL NEED TO TO LOOK AT IT. YOU NEED TO FIGURE OUT WE DON'T NEED TO GET INTO THE INTO THE DETAILS OF HOW YOU'RE RUNNING THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. I DON'T THINK THAT'S OUR I DON'T THINK THAT'S OUR PLACE. I THINK WE ALWAYS HAVE HAVE SAID THAT WE'RE THE, YOU KNOW, THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND DON'S OUR CEO AND Y'ALL ARE THE STAFF THAT EXECUTE WHAT NEEDS TO OCCUR. AND SO, YOU KNOW, I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN SHAMSUL THAT THAT Y'ALL NEED TO REVIEW IT, TAKE IT TO THE PARKS BOARD AND Y'ALL KIND OF FERRET IT OUT AND THEN BRING BACK WHAT YOU THINK MAKES SENSE. AND WE GO FROM THERE BECAUSE I REALLY, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK WE'RE THE EXPERTS SITTING UP HERE TONIGHT. Y'ALL ARE THE EXPERTS. Y'ALL ARE THE ONES THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE HEARD, YOU'VE HEARD THE THOUGHTS, YOU'VE HEARD THE FEEDBACK. SO I THINK YOU HAVE TO I THINK Y'ALL HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT, WHAT MAKES SENSE AND WHAT SHOULD BE DONE. AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE I'M AT. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU SEAN. I THINK OVERALL, IF I WERE TO DISTILL IT AND IF I GET IT WRONG, PLEASE SOMEBODY CORRECT ME, I THINK WHAT YOU MIGHT BE HEARING IS PERHAPS A LITTLE BIT MORE RESEARCH, TAKING IT TO THE PARKS BOARD, SEE WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY ON THAT FIRST ONE. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE GAVE YOU A REAL ANSWER THERE, BUT. ON THE SECOND, IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT WOULD BE A PART OF YOUR RESEARCH. THE THIRD PART OF YOUR RESEARCH AND FEEDBACK FROM FROM PARKS BOARD. YEAH, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S CONFIRMING TO HEAR ALL THE COMMENTS BECAUSE THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE WERE RECOMMENDING. SO I THINK WE'RE ALL ALIGNED. I MEAN, WE WANT TO 
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TAKE IT TO THE PARKS COMMISSION, LET OUR PARKS STAFF HAVE A DEEP DIVE WITH THEM, THAT THAT'S A GOOD LEARNING EXPERIENCE FOR US. IT GIVES THE PARKS COMMISSION MEANINGFUL WORK, AND THEN WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO YOU WITH THE FINDINGS. AND TO YOUR POINT, COUNCILWOMAN JUSTICE, YOU KNOW, THE BUDGET IMPLICATIONS, ALL THOSE THINGS THAT. BUT TONIGHT, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE ON THE RIGHT TRACK. AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT US TO INTRODUCE TO THE PARKS COMMISSION AND JUST GET THAT CONSENSUS. YEP. SO I THINK WE GOT IT. YEAH. WONDERFUL. WE'LL 
          [C. REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE PARKS MATCHING FUND BEAUTIFICATION PROGRAM ]
MOVE ON TO ITEM C, WHICH IS TO REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE PARKS MATCHING FUND PROGRAM. MR. MAGNER, GREAT MAYOR AND COUNCIL, WE'RE DOING YOUR BUDGET WORKSHOP. YOU HAD ASKED FOR US TO PUT TOGETHER A DEEPER DURATION RELATED TO EXPANDING THE MATCHING FUND BEAUTIFICATION PROGRAM TO MANDATORY ASSOCIATIONS. AND SO WHAT SEAN'S DONE FOR YOU TONIGHT IS TO CREATE ONE PATH FORWARD TO ACCOMPLISH THAT. IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU'D LIKE TO CONSIDER, WE PUT SOME PRETTY GOOD GUARDRAILS AROUND IT SO THAT IT WOULD BE HYPERSPECIFIC TO, TO ONE TYPE OF ASSET, A UNIQUE TYPE OF ASSET. AND SO, SEAN, LET ME TURN IT OVER TO YOU FOR FURTHER BRIEFING ON THIS. AND THEN WE'LL BE LOOKING FOR SOME ADDITIONAL DIRECTION AT THE END OF THIS BRIEFING AS WELL. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL. NICE TO BE BACK. SO I WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE MATCHING FUND BEAUTIFICATION PROGRAM AND THEN TALK ABOUT THIS, THIS SITUATION, AND GET SOME SOME FEEDBACK FROM YOU ON A POTENTIAL CHANGE TO THE SCOPE OF THE PROGRAM. SO JUST FOR SOME BACKGROUND MATCHING BEAUTIFICATION PROGRAM BEGAN IN 1972. MY UNDERSTANDING HAS ALWAYS BEEN THAT IT WAS DEVELOPED SPECIFICALLY TO PROMOTE PARTNERSHIPS AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, WHICH I THINK IT HAS DONE VERY, VERY WELL. IT'S A PROGRAM IN WHICH THE CITY WILL MATCH PARTNER GROUP FUNDS 100% TO DO BEAUTIFICATION PROJECTS ON PUBLIC PROPERTY OR CITY MAINTAINED PROPERTY. AND THEN THE CITY MAINTAINS THAT LANDSCAPE AFTER PROJECT COMPLETION. YOU SEE THERE A PICTURE OF THE THE BUTTERFLY GARDEN AT BERGNER PARK. SO PARTNER GROUPS CAN APPLY IN THE SPRING. WE ASK THEM TO HAVE THEIR APPLICATIONS IN BY MARCH 1ST. EVERY YEAR WE TAKE THOSE REQUESTS AND PUT THEM IN OUR ANNUAL BUDGET REQUEST SO THAT THE PROJECTS ARE FUNDED IN THE NEXT NEXT FISCAL YEAR. IN THE SUMMER, WE ASK THAT THE PARTNER GROUPS COMMIT TO FUNDING 50% OF THE TOTAL PROJECT COST. AND BY PARTNER GROUP, I MEAN THE HOA OR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OR CIVIC GROUP, WHOMEVER IT IS, WHO WHO'S GOING TO BE WORKING WITH US ON THIS BEAUTIFICATION PROJECT. AND THEN WE WORK WITH THAT GROUP THROUGHOUT THE SUMMER AND EARLY FALL TO DESIGN THE PROJECT, MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH, THAT IT MEETS WITH WHAT WE CAN ACCOMPLISH, AND THAT WORKS WITHIN, YOU KNOW, OUR GUIDELINES. SO THAT OCTOBER 1ST, WHEN THE NEW BUDGET IS IN, WE'RE READY TO GO WITH CONSTRUCTION TO TO MAKE THAT BEAUTIFICATION PROJECT HAPPEN. WE MANAGE THAT PROJECT THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE EVERY PHASE OF IT, DESIGN, CONSTRUCTION AND EVERYTHING. WE PAY THE CONTRACTORS THROUGHOUT CONSTRUCTION AS WORK IS COMPLETED. AND THEN ONCE IT'S DONE AND EVERYBODY AGREES THAT IT LOOKS GOOD, THAT IT MEETS WHAT EXPECTATIONS WERE, THEN WE INVOICE THE PARTNER GROUP FOR 50% OF THE PROJECT TOTAL. SO IF IT'S A LITTLE LESS THAN WE THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE, THEIR CONTRIBUTION IS A LITTLE LESS AND OUR CONTRIBUTION IS A LITTLE BIT LESS. IT'S STRICTLY 50% OF WHAT WE SAID. THE PROJECT WAS GOING TO BE UP TO THAT MAXIMUM. AND THEN LIKE I SAID, WE MAINTAIN THAT AREA GOING FORWARD IN PERPETUITY. AND THEN HERE'S A GRAPHIC THAT KIND OF SHOWS THAT THAT PROCESS TIMELINE FROM MARCH, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE NEXT YEAR, TYPICALLY WE WILL SEE ACTUAL BOOTS ON THE GROUND CONSTRUCTION START SOMETIME FEBRUARY OR MARCH OF THE NEXT YEAR. THAT GETS US THROUGH OCTOBER. ALTHOUGH IF WE HAVE A PROJECT THAT HAS A LOT OF HARDSCAPE, THEN WE CERTAINLY CAN DO THAT OVER THE WINTER TIME. BUT WHEN IT COMES TO PLANTING PLANTS AND FLOWERS, WE'LL WAIT UNTIL SPRING TO TO GET THAT DONE. AND THAT'S KIND OF A, IN A NUTSHELL, VERY BROAD OVERVIEW OF THE THE PROGRAM. 
          THESE ARE THE PROJECTS WE HAVE THIS YEAR. IT'S A PRETTY GOOD YEAR. IT'S USUALLY 4 TO 5 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS WILL APPLY EVERY YEAR, SOMETIMES MORE, SOMETIMES FEWER. BUT THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE NOW. BERGNER PARK ESTATES, NORTH RICHLAND PARK KNOWLES OR BRECKENRIDGE, PRAIRIE CREEK GARDEN CLUB AND GREENWOOD HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. AND SO THE KNOWLES BRECKENRIDGE PROJECT IS WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY, BECAUSE THIS WOULD REPRESENT A LITTLE BIT OF A CHANGE TO THE SCOPE OF OF WHAT MATCHING FUND BEAUTIFICATION HAS BEEN IN THE PAST. AND JUST FOR SOME BACKGROUND, THE MEDIAN THERE AT NORTH STAR BRECKENRIDGE BOULEVARD WAS APPARENTLY DAMAGED BY A VEHICLE COLLISION SOME TIME IN RECENT MEMORY. AND THE HOA IS REQUESTED RENOVATION OF THE MEDIAN. TO REPAIR THAT DAMAGE, GO THROUGH THE MATCHING FUND BEAUTIFICATION PROGRAM WITH THE, YOU KNOW, COMMENSURATE MATCH FROM THE 
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CITY FOR THE COST OF THAT PROJECT. SO HERE'S THE PLAT OF THAT AREA, WHICH I KNOW IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT TO READ IN THIS FORMAT. SO THIS ZOOMS IN A LITTLE BIT AND YOU SEE THERE WHERE THE CIRCLE IS, IT SAYS COMMON AREA BY THIS PLAT THAT IS SPECIFICALLY THE MEDIAN THAT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. AND IN RESEARCHING THIS, WE DISCOVERED THAT THAT MEDIAN ACTUALLY IS PLATTED AND OWNED BY PLATTED TWO AND OWNED BY THE HOA AS PART OF THEIR COMMON AREA. SO IT IS TECHNICALLY PRIVATE PROPERTY IN MY HISTORY WITH WITH THE CITY, THE HOA HAS ALWAYS MAINTAINED THAT WITH THE REST OF THEIR COMMON AREA MAINTENANCE. SO IT WOULD REALLY NOT FIT WITHIN HOW WE TYPICALLY APPROACH MATCHING FUND BEAUTIFICATION PROJECTS. SO WE DID A LITTLE BIT MORE RESEARCH AND TALKED TO OUR FRIENDS IN THE GIS DEPARTMENT ABOUT SIMILAR CONDITIONS IN RICHARDSON WERE PARCELS ARE OWNED BY HOA'S. ONCE AGAIN, THIS MAP IS DIFFICULT TO READ, BUT ALL THE RED MARKS ARE PARCELS OWNED BY HOAS. WITHIN THE CITY, THERE ARE 281 INDIVIDUAL PARCELS OWNED BY HOAS. NOW, NOT ALL OF THOSE ARE MEDIANS LIKE THE ONE AT KNOWLES, BRECKENRIDGE OR EVEN NEIGHBORHOOD ENTRYWAYS. I MEAN, SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, HOA'S HAVE POOLS OR OTHER COMMON AREAS OR, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY THEIR OWN PRIVATE PARK. SO A LOT OF THOSE FALL UNDER THOSE CATEGORIES. WE ESTIMATE THERE ARE PROBABLY 20 TO 25 MEDIANS LIKE THE ONE THERE AT NORTHSTAR AND BRECKENRIDGE THAT ARE OWNED BY HOA'S THROUGHOUT THE CITY. SO ADDING THAT PRIVATE PROPERTY TO THE MATCHING FUND BEAUTIFICATION REMIT WOULD, WOULD REPRESENT KIND OF A POLICY CHANGE, A LITTLE BIT OF A PHILOSOPHY CHANGE AS WELL. AND THESE ARE SOME OF THE CONSIDERATIONS THAT WE WANT TO THINK ABOUT PRETTY CLOSELY. WE'VE TALKED TO CITY ATTORNEY AND TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS, WE'D HAVE TO EXECUTE A 380 AGREEMENT WITH THE HOA TO USE PUBLIC FUNDS ON THAT PROPERTY, WHICH IS CERTAINLY POSSIBLE. WE'D HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE PRETTY PRECISE AND INTENTIONAL AGREEMENTS DRAFTED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY AND FILED WITH THE STATE CONTROLLER CONTROLLER'S OFFICE FOLLOWING EXECUTION TO MAKE SURE ALL THE T'S ARE CROSSED, I'S ARE DOTTED. THEY WERE DOING THIS COMPLETELY BY THE BOOK. YOU KNOW, MAINTENANCE HAS ALWAYS BEEN PART OF THE MFP PROGRAM. THAT'S SOMETHING WE THINK WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DO IN CASES LIKE THIS TO COME IN AND MAINTAIN THOSE AREAS AFTER THE PROJECT IS COMPLETE. THAT'S GENERALLY NOT A CITY RESPONSIBILITY TO MAINTAIN OR RENOVATE THESE AREAS, EVEN THROUGH PARTIAL FUNDING. SO WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A COMFORT LEVEL WITH, YOU KNOW, EXPANDING THE PROGRAM IN THAT WAY. AND THEN WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ESTABLISH PRETTY SPECIFIC PROGRAM GUIDELINES. 
          WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN JUST A SEC. AS FAR AS WHAT IS ELIGIBLE TO FALL INTO THE MFP, IF IT'S A SITUATION LIKE THIS WHERE IT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ALL GOING TOWARD THINKING ABOUT FUTURE PROJECTS THAT MAY, YOU KNOW, COME TO OUR ATTENTION IF WE DO TAKE ON THIS, THIS ONE AT KNOWLES AT BRECKENRIDGE. SO OUR RECOMMENDATION IS THAT IF COUNCIL WISHES TO EXPAND THE SCOPE OF THE PROGRAM IN THIS WAY TO INCLUDE PROJECTS THAT ARE LOCATED ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, THE POLICY BE CHANGED TO ALLOW ONLY PROJECTS ON PRIVATELY OWNED MEDIANS LIKE THIS ONE THAT ARE LOCATED ON PUBLIC STREETS. AND IN THIS CASE, THAT MEDIAN IS ON A PUBLIC STREET, BRECKENRIDGE BOULEVARD, BUT WOULD NOT APPLY TO PRIVATE STREETS IN GATED COMMUNITIES OR OTHER MANDATORY HOA'S. SO ON PUBLIC STREETS AND SUBJECT TO THE USUAL PROJECT SCOPE, LIMITATIONS AND WITHOUT ONGOING MAINTENANCE BY THE CITY. BUT THAT'S CERTAINLY UP TO UP TO YOU AS COUNCIL. IF THIS IS AN EXPANSION AND A CHANGE WE WANT TO MAKE TO THE MATCHING FUND BEAUTIFICATION PROGRAM, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE, COUNCILMEMBER JUSTICE, THANK YOU FOR LOOKING INTO THIS MORE. I'M THE ONE THAT BROUGHT THIS TO STAFF'S ATTENTION, BECAUSE I GET COMMENTS FROM FOLKS IN THE PANHANDLE WHERE MOST OF OUR HOAS ARE LOCATED, QUITE A BIT ABOUT HOW THEY WISH THAT THEY COULD BENEFIT FROM THIS PROGRAM. SO I APPRECIATE THE CREATIVITY. I'M CURIOUS IF YOU LOOKED INTO GARLAND'S PROGRAM AT ALL, AND IS IT IS IT THIS RESTRICTIVE? AND IF NOT, WHY ARE WE. WHY WOULD WE RECOMMEND, I GUESS, BEING THIS RESTRICTIVE IF THEIRS IS NOT BECAUSE THEY. 
          THERE'S A THERE'S APPLICABLE TO MANDATORY AND VOLUNTARY, AS I UNDERSTAND IT. SO. AND IF YOU NEED TO COME BACK WITH THAT, THAT'S FINE. BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT LED TO SUCH A PRESCRIPTIVE RECOMMENDATION. LET ME LET ME ANSWER THAT. IT'S FINANCIAL CONSIDERATIONS. WE HAVE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS THAT LITERALLY MAINTAIN HUNDREDS OF LINEAR FEET OF FRONTAGE ALONG RENNER ROAD OR BRECKENRIDGE AND OR OTHER, NOT JUST IN THE PANHANDLE. AND SO 
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FROM A FROM A BUDGETARY CONSIDERATION, WE WERE TRYING TO FOCUS ON A PRIVATE ASSET WITHIN A PUBLIC REALM, WHICH TO ME IS DIFFERENT THAN THEIR ENTRY FEATURES OR THESE AGAIN, THESE THESE LONG STRETCHES OF LANDSCAPED AREAS THAT THEY MAINTAIN AROUND A MASONRY SCREENING WALL THAT USUALLY ENCLOSES THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND SO AGAIN, SO, SO TO BE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S IT. FINANCIAL CONSIDERATIONS. THE OTHER THING WAS THIS COULD BE A CRAWL, A KIND OF A CRAWL, WALK, RUN APPROACH TO THIS. WE COULD TAKE, WE COULD DO THIS FIRST AND SEE HOW MANY WE ACTUALLY GET. MAYBE IT WON'T BE OVERWHELMING. MAYBE IT'LL BE SOMETHING THAT'S ACTUALLY PRETTY EASY TO INCORPORATE INTO THE, INTO THE MATCHING FUND BEAUTIFICATION PROGRAM. AND THEN, AND THEN REVISIT IT AND SEE IF WE, IF YOU WANTED TO EXPAND IT. SO TWO POINTS. ONE, FINANCIAL CONSIDERATIONS AT THE FOREMOST. SECONDLY, KNOWING THAT WE COULD COME BACK IN THE PROGRAM COULD EVOLVE OVER TIME, JUST TAKING THE MOST CONSERVATIVE APPROACH THAT WE COULD. OKAY. SO THE CONCERN IS THAT WE WOULD BE JUST OVERWHELMED AND WE DON'T HAVE IN OUR POLICY. NOW, I GUESS, THAT WE'RE ONLY GOING TO DO UP TO A CERTAIN AMOUNT EVERY YEAR. OR DO WE KNOW THE, THE, THE, THE BUDGET HAS NEVER BEEN CAPPED. AND IT'S ALL IT'S ALWAYS BEEN FULLY FUNDED BY THE, BY PRIOR COUNCILS. YEAH. OKAY. BUT IT'S NEVER BEEN CAPPED. 
          WE'VE NEVER HAD A CAP ON IT. WE'VE NEVER HAD THAT NEED. AND THE CONCERN IS THAT MAYBE. YEAH. 
          OKAY. IT'S THE CONCERN REALLY IS THE MAGNITUDE OF THE AMOUNT OF LAND THAT THESE PRIVATE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS POSSESS VERSUS THE ELIGIBLE AREA THAT WE WOULD BE WILLING TO DO A MATCHING FUND ON IN WITH A WITH A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OR NOT. I THINK THAT'S RIGHT. I MEAN, I THINK THE GARLAND PROGRAM IS REALLY INTERESTING. SO LOOK AT THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE. I'M FINE WITH THE YOUR CRAWL WALK, RUN APPROACH. I DO THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, PART OF WHAT GARLAND LOOKS AT, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, IS REALLY THE PUBLIC UTILITY. AND TO YOUR POINT, THERE'S A PUBLIC STREET HERE THAT HAS A MEDIAN IN IT THAT JUST HAPPENS TO BE OWNED BY, YOU KNOW, A PRIVATE ENTITY. AND SO, YOU KNOW, I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN, IN PURSUING THIS UNDER THE VERY PRESCRIPTIVE RECOMMENDATION YOU'VE MADE HERE, JUST AS A PILOT PROGRAM TO SEE HOW IT GOES. AND THEN I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO JUST TALK TO GARLAND OR LOOK AT THEIR PROGRAM AND FIGURE OUT HOW THEY HAVE DETERMINED THAT THEY CAN JUST ALLOW EVEN MANDATORY HOAS, YOU KNOW, AND WHAT THEIR CRITERIA IS. DO THEY CAP THEIR BUDGET TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE? I MEAN, I THINK THERE'S A LOT AND, YOU KNOW, I'D BE FINE EVEN IF YOU WANT TO DO ALL THAT BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, JUST SO THAT WE HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE LIMITATIONS MAY BE, AND IF WE HAVE ADDITIONAL LIMITATIONS WE NEED TO PUT INTO PLACE. SO GENERALLY SPEAKING, I THINK I'M OKAY WITH THIS, BUT IF YOU WANT TO GO GET MORE INFORMATION, I'M OKAY WITH THAT AS WELL. COUNCILMEMBER DORAN, THANK YOU. YES, I'M GOING TO AGREE EXACTLY THE SAME. YOU KNOW, AS I AS I MEET WITH HOA LEADERSHIP TEAMS, THIS QUESTION GETS BROUGHT UP ALL THE TIME. GENERALLY SPEAKING, YOU KNOW, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS HAVE ALWAYS HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO UTILIZE THIS PROGRAM, WHICH IS INVALUABLE TO THEM AND THE CITY. AND IT CERTAINLY CONTINUES TO, YOU KNOW, ELEVATE OUR COMMUNITIES. AND WITH THE LANDSCAPING AND HARDSCAPING. SO I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT THIS AS A PILOT PROGRAM. AND, YOU KNOW, TO YOUR POINT OF, YOU KNOW, CRAWL, WALK AND RUN AT THAT POINT AND SEE WHAT LIMITATIONS THERE ARE. I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM SOME OF THE MEDIUM AREAS THAT ARE EXPOSED TO THE CITY STREETS. I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION, THOUGH, THIS. THIS WOULD NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE INTERIOR OF A A MANDATORY HOA, WHETHER IT'S GATED OR UNGATED, BECAUSE WE HAVE BOTH THROUGHOUT RICHARDSON, DEPENDING ON WHAT AREA IT'S IN. SO WITH. WOULD THERE BE SOME SOME STIPULATION THERE BETWEEN. BECAUSE THEY HAVE. SOME HAVE MEDIUMS THAT ACTUALLY ARE PRIOR TO ENTERING THE GATE OR RIGHT AFTER YOU ENTER THE GATE OR BOTH. AND WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION FOR ANY SOFT SCAPING OR HARD SCAPING? I MEAN, I KNOW IT'S NOT PLANNED OUT YET. I'M JUST SAYING IS, IS THAT KIND OF THE THOUGHT PROCESS? I DON'T I DON'T FEEL LIKE THERE ARE A WHOLE LOT OF CONDITIONS THAT ARE LIKE THAT, BUT CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE WOULD LOOK AT. I THINK YOUR POINT IS WELL TAKEN. YEAH, I KNOW THAT. I HAVE JUST, JUST, JUST IN MY PLACE OR DISTRICT. IT'S I KNOW THAT WE HAVE THREE THEY'RE VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT I JUST EXPLAINED. ALL OF THEM ARE. 
          YEAH. SO JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, SEAN. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALIGNED HERE. SO THE, THE, THE ONLY MEDIUM THAT WOULD BE ELIGIBLE WOULD BE ONE THAT WAS A PIECE OF PRIVATE PROPERTY WITHIN A PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY OR PUBLIC STREET. SO IF A, IF A STREET IS BEHIND A GATE, IT'S NOT A PUBLIC STREET. SO IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AN ISSUE ONLY ANY, ANY, ANY STREET THAT'S GOING TO BE BEHIND A, AN ENCLOSED WITHIN AN ENCLOSED NEIGHBORHOOD IS GOING TO BE A PRIVATE STREET. SO I THINK THEY'RE TWO TOTALLY DIFFERENT, OKAY, TOTALLY DIFFERENT SITUATION. AND THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO GET CLARITY ON. SO YEAH, SO BASICALLY ANY THE HOA, THEY'LL, THEY'LL CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN THAT WITH THEIR OWN HOA FUNDING. AND THEN WE'LL 
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POTENTIALLY DO A 5050 SPLIT LIKE WE DO WITH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS. POTENTIALLY WE MAY. OKAY. YEAH, I AGAIN, I DO SUPPORT THE PROGRAM. I'D LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, GET A LITTLE MORE FEEDBACK ON HOW THIS WOULD WORK AND THE COST AND WHERE WE WOULD CAP IT AND, AND WHAT, YOU KNOW, POTENTIAL BENEFITS ARE NOT THAT WOULD JUSTIFY THE CITY AND THE HOA IN THE COLLABORATION. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER GRIFFIN. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WELL, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR PATIENT PRESENTATION. YEAH, I DO SUPPORT THIS CONSERVATIVE APPROACH. AND I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, KEEP AND TRACK DATA FOR OTHER THINGS THAT COULD BE COMING UP IN THE FUTURE. THEN THE CITY COULD BE LIKE CONSIDERING THOSE KIND OF THOSE KIND OF THINGS. BUT I THINK THIS IS, THIS IS GOOD APPROACH, I SUPPORT THAT. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER CORCORAN. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. YEAH, I'M WITH EVERYONE, I SUPPORT THIS. I THINK THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THIS POTENTIALLY BEING A PHILOSOPHY CHANGE, BUT IT'S REALLY JUST DIPPING OUR TOE INTO IT. I MEAN, WE'RE NOT PROPOSING TO PAY FOR PEOPLE'S LANDSCAPING. WE'RE NOT PROPOSING, YOU KNOW, AROUND LIKE A PRIVATE POOL OR PRIVATE CLUBHOUSE. WE'RE NOT PROPOSING TO PAY FOR SOMEONE'S STREET, YOU KNOW, BEHIND A GATE. WE'RE REALLY JUST SAYING THAT THINGS THAT ARE THE PUBLIC UTILITY SHOULD BE MAINTAINED. AND THERE, I ALSO THINK IS AN ELEMENT THERE OF FAIRNESS AND RECIPROCITY WITH OUR HOAS AS WELL. AND SO I'M 100% BEHIND THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION. MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHENRIDER YEAH, I YEAH, I WOULD AGREE. I'M I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER BURDETTE, JUST A FOLLOW UP QUESTION. THANK YOU, SEAN, FOR ALL THE DETAILS AND PRESENTATION. SO A FOLLOW UP TO DON'S REMARK ON THERE'S NO CAP. AND, YOU KNOW, THE PROJECTS HAVE HAD SUPPORT FROM PRIOR COUNCILS. DOES THAT MEAN THAT APPLICATIONS THAT ARE PRESENTED EACH YEAR ARE FILED EACH YEAR, THE COUNCIL OR PRESENTED TO THE COUNCIL, AND THEY SUPPORT THEM EITHER INDIVIDUALLY OR IN AS A BLOCK? YEAH. SO THOSE ARE LINE ITEMS IN THE PARKS CAPITAL BUDGET REQUEST. BASICALLY, IT'LL BE MATCHING FROM UNIFICATION PROJECT BIRKNER PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION $10,000. OKAY, OKAY. AND I DO LIKE THE CAVEATS. I REMEMBER WHEN THIS WAS DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY, AND THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF HEARTBURN ABOUT PROPERTY THAT WAS BEHIND A GATE, YOU KNOW, AND WHERE YOU ABSOLUTELY HAD NO ABILITY TO MAINTAIN IT. BUT IF I'M UNDERSTANDING THE THE WAY IT'S DESCRIBED HERE, AND I AGREE WITH THAT POSITION THAT WE WOULD SPLIT THE DEVELOPMENT OF IT, BUT THEN THE MAINTENANCE WOULD 100% BE ON THE THE HOA GOING FORWARD. OKAY. AND THEN THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION I HAD ON SOME OF THE KIND OF OVERHEAD COSTS THAT THE LEGAL AUTHORITY, YOU KNOW, CHAPTER THREE, AGREEMENTS AND ADMINISTRATIVE REQUIREMENTS, DO WE HAVE AN IDEA OF HOW MUCH EACH ONE OF THOSE WOULD BE? YEAH. SO OR IS THAT A. YEAH, I THINK SO MUCH LIKE OUR HOME IMPROVEMENT INCENTIVE PROGRAM AGREEMENTS, ONCE WE ONCE WE ARRIVE AT A FORM THAT WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH, THE, THE AGREEMENT CAN BE USED OVER AND OVER. THAT WOULD JUST BE IT WOULD JUST BE MADE, YOU KNOW, THE SPECIFIC DETAILS OF A PROJECT, FOR INSTANCE, AND THE NEW. SO I DON'T THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, THERE MAY BE THERE MAY BE, YOU KNOW, A FEW THOUSAND DOLLARS IN INITIAL COST ASSOCIATED WITH SOME OF THE LEGAL WORK. BUT ONCE WE KIND OF PERFECT THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO BE LESS THAN $500 PER PER 380 AGREEMENT. OKAY. VERY GOOD. AND GENERAL, I LOVE THE PROGRAM. I LOVE SEEING THE BEAUTIFUL ENTRANCES TO MOST OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. SO THANK YOU, MR. MAGNER. I THINK WE'VE GOT GOOD ENOUGH CONSENSUS ON THAT. SO WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH IT AS DESCRIBED AND PERHAPS WALK AND RUN IN THE FUTURE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE ON TO 
          [D. REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE MAYOR’S SUMMER INTERNSHIP PROGRAM FEASIBILITY STUDY ]
ITEM D, WHICH IS TO REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE MAYOR'S SUMMER INTERNSHIP PROGRAM FEASIBILITY STUDY. MR. MAGNER, GREAT. MAYOR, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THANK YOU. GREAT. SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO TONIGHT IS REALLY KIND OF THREE COMPONENTS OF THIS ONE. TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THIS MAYOR SUMMER INTERNSHIP PROGRAM HERE IN RICHARDSON. SHARE WITH YOU SOME DETAILS OF THE PROGRAM AND THEN PROVIDE YOU WITH A SUMMARY OF A PROPOSAL TO CONDUCT A FEASIBILITY STUDY HERE OVER THE NEXT 30 OR SO DAYS TO DETERMINE WHETHER THAT PLANO MODEL LENDS ITSELF TO RICHARDSON AND HOW WE CAN BEGIN WORKING TOWARDS THAT AND ON WHAT TIMELINE. SO JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THE PROGRAM. RECALL BACK IN FEBRUARY OF 18, THE RISD, THE CHAMBER AND THE CITY LAUNCHED THE PROGRAM. THAT WAS AFTER WORKING ON IT, THAT THAT FALL AND IN WINTER, BEGINNING THAT SUMMER IN 18 AND FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, THE PROGRAM HOSTED 
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PAID INTERNSHIPS, ON AVERAGE, ABOUT 50 STUDENTS EACH YEAR IN THE SUMMER. I'M SORRY, IN THE WINTER OF 2023, THE TABITHA BRANHAM AND HER TEAM CAME TO VISIT WITH WITH OUR ADMINISTRATION TO SHARE WITH US THAT DUE TO BUDGET CONSTRAINTS, AND THAT WAS THE DRIVING REASON THAT ISD WOULD NOT BE READY, WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO CONTINUE ON WITH THE PROGRAM. BUT AT THAT TIME, THEY EXPLAINED THAT THEY FELT LIKE WE COULD CONTINUE TO PARTNER ON THE PROFESSIONAL INTERNSHIP PROGRAM, WHICH HAS BEEN AROUND FOR, I THINK, FOUR PLUS DECADES. AND SO IN AUGUST OF 2024. AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE DID. AND WE BEGAN TO SUPPORT THAT PROGRAM. AND TODAY WE IT'S A VERY MODEST SUPPORT. WE, WE SUPPORT IT TO THE TUNE OF ABOUT $5,000 EACH YEAR BY HOSTING SOME OF THE MAJOR EVENTS. THE CITY ALSO SUPPORTS IT. WE HOST AS MANY AS EIGHT INTERNS IN THE SPRING AND THE FALL, JUST TO KIND OF MAKE SURE THAT WE DO OUR PART. WE HAVE SO MANY DIFFERENT BUSINESSES, BUSINESS LINES HERE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO MEET A LOT OF THEIR NEEDS. JUST AS A REMINDER ABOUT OUR PROGRAM, WE WERE OBVIOUSLY, IT SOUGHT TO PROVIDE VARIOUS JOB OPPORTUNITIES BOTH IN SMALL AND LARGE COMPANIES, SOMETHING THAT WE'RE UNIQUELY SITUATED TO DO HERE, AS WELL AS NONPROFITS AND GOVERNMENT, PARTICULARLY HERE AT THE MUNICIPAL LEVEL. STUDENTS WERE JUNIORS. IF THEY WERE JUNIORS IN 16 YEARS OLD, THEY COULD BE EITHER A RISD STUDENT. SO THAT'S A STUDENT LIVING IN RICHARDSON OR DALLAS, OR THEY COULD BE A RISD RESIDENT. SO THEY COULD BE HOMESCHOOLED, THEY COULD BE IN A PRIVATE SCHOOL OR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THEIR SITUATION WOULD BE. YOU SEE THERE LIKE A 2.5 GPA, A LETTER OF RECOMMENDATION. AND THEN THEY HAD TO COMPLETE EIGHT HOURS OF WORKFORCE READINESS, WHICH WAS SOME OF THE THAT THAT INITIAL COST THAT GOES INTO PREPARING THEM FOR THEIR INTERNSHIPS. OUR SD, IN THE END WAS WORKING WITH A NONPROFIT CALLED EDUCATION AS FREEDOM. THIS WAS A TURNKEY SERVICE THAT THE EDUCATION AND FREEDOM. PROVIDED TO OUR ISD, PARTICULARLY BECAUSE A LOT OF THE TIME WHEN THIS PROGRAM WAS BEING ADMINISTERED WAS OUR ISD'S BREAK. AND SO THEY NEEDED SOMEONE TO. THEY NEEDED SOME CONTINUITY FROM THE START OF THE YEAR, WHICH YOU'LL SEE IS USUALLY IN JANUARY, WHEN THE PROGRAM REALLY STARTS OFF ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THE PROGRAM, WHICH CONCLUDES IN AUGUST. SO THERE HAS BEEN SOME INTEREST IN THE. ESTABLISHING THE PROGRAM IN THE PLANO MODEL SEEMS TO BE THE ONE THAT KIND OF HAS GARNERED THE MOST INTEREST. AND SO THE PLANO, EXCUSE ME, MAYOR'S SUMMER INTERNSHIP PROGRAM IS IS A CITY PROGRAM, BUT IT IS MANAGED THROUGH THE PLANO IMPROVEMENT CORPORATION. AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A RICHARDSON IMPROVEMENT CORPORATION. THESE ARE NONPROFIT ENTITIES THAT WE USE FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS. ORIGINALLY, IT WAS PREDOMINANTLY USED TO HOLD PROPERTY SO THAT WE COULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR MORE GRANTS FROM THE TEXAS PARK COMMISSION. THAT'S CHANGED. AND BUT NOW WE'RE ABLE TO USE IT IN CERTAIN CERTAIN TIMES FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT REASONS. BUT THE IMPROVEMENT CORPORATION, RICHARDSON IMPROVEMENT CORPORATION, HAS BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME, HAS ALL THE SAME GUIDELINES AND RULES AND WHATNOT THAT PLANO WOULD. SO ALL FUNDS ARE RAISED BY. FOR THE PLANO MAYOR'S PROGRAM ARE DEPOSITED INTO THEIR IMPROVEMENT CORPORATION. FROM THAT, THE CITY PAYS THE CONSULTANT AND ALL THE PROGRAM RELATED EXPENSES FROM FROM THEIR THEIR IMPROVEMENT CORPORATION. WHEN THE PROGRAM FIRST BEGAN, THE CITY MADE AN INITIAL INVESTMENT IN THE PROGRAM OF ABOUT $130,000. AND ESSENTIALLY TALKING TO MY COUNTERPART TODAY, ESSENTIALLY WHAT THAT WAS, WAS FOR WAS KIND OF TO GET THE PROGRAM OFF SO THAT THE FUNDRAISING COULD BEGIN, RIGHT? YOU NEED TO PAY SOMEONE TO DO THE FUNDRAISING IN THE BEGINNING, AND THIS IS WHAT THE SEED MONEY WAS FOR. BUT AT THIS POINT IN TIME, ALL OF THE PROGRAM IS NOW PAID FOR WITH SPONSORSHIPS. YOU CAN SEE IN PLANO ONLY PIS STUDENTS ONLY PISD STUDENTS WERE PERMITTED TO TAKE PART IN THEGRAM. LAST YEAR, THE 26 PROGRAM. THERE WERE 91 INTERNS. THE BUDGET WAS $292,500. ALL FUNDS WERE RAISED BY THE CONSULTANT. WE ASKED, WHAT IF THE GOAL OF THE FUNDRAISING GOAL IS NOT MET? AND THEN. AND THIS HAS HAPPENED SEVERAL TIMES, THEY HAVE TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS. AND SO THAT 91ST MAY GO TO, YOU KNOW, 71, FOR INSTANCE, OR WHATEVER, WHATEVER THE ADJUSTMENT MAY, MAY, MAY NEED TO BE. AND SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, THIS IS THE PLANO TIMELINE HERE. AND I GUESS, YOU KNOW, ABOUT TEN WEEKS OR SO, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THEY'LL START ACCEPTING APPLICATIONS. 
          AND YOU SEE THAT RUNS THROUGH THE LAST DAY OF THE INTERNSHIP THERE JULY 30TH. AND SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A, THIS IS A SOLID, YOU KNOW, 7 TO 8 MONTH COORDINATION BECAUSE I'M ASSUMING THERE'S SOME RAMP UP WORK TAKING PLACE. YOU KNOW, EVEN RIGHT NOW, WE'RE IN OVER THE COURSE OF DECEMBER TO GET READY FOR JANUARY. SO AS THE MAYOR MENTIONED, WE'VE BEEN VISITING WITH DIFFERENT GROUPS ON THIS. THE GROUP THAT THAT ACTUALLY WORKS FOR THE CITY OF 
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PLANO AND RUNS THEIR PROGRAM IN CONJUNCTION WITH SOME PLANO STAFF, HAS RECOMMENDED A FEASIBILITY STUDY. YOU CAN SEE THE FEASIBILITY STUDY. WE TRY TO COMPLETE THAT OVER THE NEXT 30 DAYS. IT WOULD IT WOULD BE A STRATEGIC PLAN AND STUDY THAT WOULD RESULT IN A DELIVERABLE. 
          IT WOULD EVALUATE THE ORGANIZATIONAL, FINANCIAL AND OPERATIONAL REQUIREMENTS FOR ESTABLISHING A PROGRAM LIKE PLANO'S HERE. EVEN THOUGH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALWAYS AS OPEN THAT IN FIRST COUPLE OF DAYS, YOU KNOW, FIRST COUPLE OF YEARS, IT'S NOT PROBABLY GOING TO BE 90 STUDENTS. SO IT'D BE SOME, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, MAYBE A CRAWL, WALK, RUN UP TO THAT. THIS STUDY WOULD HELP US UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT CRAWL, WALK, RUN COULD LOOK LIKE. AND IT WOULD ALSO HELP, I THINK, AS I'VE SHARED WITH THE MAYOR, KIND OF HELP US KIND OF WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE DON'T KNOW YET FROM THE CITY SIDE. AND SO THIS WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL STUDY TO REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT WE WOULD BE EMBARKING ON. YOU CAN KIND OF SEE WHAT THE ASSESSMENT WOULD INCLUDE, A REVIEW OF ALL OF OUR PRIOR INFORMATION. WE WOULD CONSULT WITH KEY STAKEHOLDERS AND THAT WOULD BE PREDOMINANTLY WITH THE CITY, BUT ALSO WITH POTENTIAL DONORS AND SPONSORS AND COMPANIES THAT MIGHT HOST INTERNS BECAUSE LIKE IN THE PLANO PROGRAM, FOR INSTANCE, OF THE 90 PROGRAM OF THE 90 INTERNS, ABOUT 70 OF THEM ARE WORKING AT A COMPANY FOR IN THE COMPANY IS PAYING THEIR WAGE, BUT ABOUT 20 ARE WORKING FOR NONPROFITS. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WAS PART OF OUR PROGRAM AS WELL. AND SO WE, WE LOOK AT ALL THOSE DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS. THE CONSULTANT WOULD IDENTIFY, YOU KNOW, THE OPPORTUNITIES AND CHALLENGES. 
          BUT THE GOAL, THE GOAL HERE WOULD BE TO BE ABLE TO COME BACK TO YOU AND PROBABLY ANSWER A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS YOU WANT TO ASK TONIGHT THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION ON YET. 
          AND THAT WOULD THAT WOULD REALLY BE THE GOAL. YOU SEE, THE DELIVERABLES HERE WOULD BE THE STRATEGIC ASSESSMENT, A RECOMMENDED PROGRAM FRAMEWORK. AND SO IT MIGHT NOT LOOK EXACTLY LIKE THE PLANO PROGRAM. IT MIGHT, BUT IT MIGHT NOT LOOK EXACTLY LIKE THE PLANO PROGRAM, THE IMPLEMENTATION ROADMAP, WHICH IS REALLY IMPORTANT, INCLUDING AS PART OF THAT ASSESSMENT, IS 2020, 2027 FEASIBLE? AND IF SO, KIND OF AT WHAT LEVEL. AND THEN YOU SEE THE MOST IMPORTANT THING OUT OF HERE WOULD BE THE PHASE TWO PROPOSAL, WHICH WOULD BE THE IMPLEMENTATION SCOPE, THE STAFFING RESPONSIBILITIES FROM THE CITY AND THE CONSULTANT, THE TIMELINE AND THE PROPOSED MANAGEMENT FEE STRUCTURE MOVING FORWARD. YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE THERE ARE SOME LIMITATIONS IN THE SCOPE THERE. YOU CAN KIND OF SEE KIND OF WHAT IT WHAT IT EXCLUDES. IF WE WANTED ADDITIONAL WORK OR IF WE WANTED A COUNCIL PRESENTATION, THAT MIGHT COST A LITTLE BIT OF ADDITIONAL RESOURCES, BUT I DON'T ANTICIPATE IT COSTING, COSTING THAT MUCH. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD PUT SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY. GREG SOLE, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNICATIONS ENGAGEMENT, IS WHO I HAVE ASSIGNED TO THIS TO KIND OF BE THEIR KEY PERSON THROUGHOUT THE FEASIBILITY STUDY, JUST BECAUSE GREG TANGENTIALLY HAD SOME EXPOSURE TO THE PROGRAM IN HIS WORK PREVIOUSLY, AND HE WOULD PROBABLY BE MOST QUALIFIED TO HELP OUT OVER THIS NEXT 30 DAYS OR SO. THE FEASIBILITY STUDY COST IS $12,500 FOR THE DELIVERABLES THAT YOU SEE THERE. AND SO, YOU KNOW, PRETTY, PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. TONIGHT, JUST BEFORE WE MAKE THAT STEP, I WANTED TO COME AND GET COUNCIL DIRECTION ON WHETHER YOU WANT TO PROCEED WHEN YOU WANT TO PROCEED. AND THEN IF THERE ARE SOME ADDITIONAL COSTS INSTEAD OF JUST THE 12,500, IF YOU ARE SEE FIT TO SAY, $15,000 OR 17.5, WHATEVER IT IS, JUST IN CASE THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL COSTS, I DON'T NEED TO COME BACK TO YOU. I CAN JUST HAVE THAT COVERAGE TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS. AND SO THAT'S KIND OF MY QUICK PRESENTATION AND RECAP. AND THOSE ARE THE POTENTIAL NEXT STEPS. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL? COUNCILMEMBER CORCORAN, ARE RICHARDSON STUDENTS ALLOWED TO PARTICIPATE IN THE MAYOR'S PLANO SUMMER INTERNSHIP PROGRAM? I BELIEVE AS LONG AS THEY'RE PISDPISD THAT'S THAT'S CORRECT. 
          CLARIFICATION THE PLANO SITUATION IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THERE. THERE ARE OTHER CITIES. THAT SO SO IN THERE, LIKE FRISCO, FOR INSTANCE, THEY'VE HAD KIDS IN FRISCO THAT FRISCO ISD THAT LIVE IN PLANO THAT WOULD BE INTERESTED IN PARTICIPATING. 
          THAT WOULD BE THE EXAMPLE THERE. YEAH. SO COUNCILMEMBER BURNETTE, THANK YOU, MAYOR. YEAH. SO I'M SOMEWHAT FAMILIAR WITH, WITH THE PROGRAM HAVING JUST A LITTLE PERSONAL HISTORY OVER THE YEARS. MY WIFE, CATHERINE, AND I WERE INDIVIDUAL SPONSORS, IF YOU WILL, MADE DONATIONS TO THE RMSIP SPECIFICALLY TO PAY FOR THE STUDENTS WHO WANTED TO WORK FOR NONPROFITS. SO WE HAD, I THINK THREE YEARS. WE HAD STUDENTS THAT WE SPONSORED PERSONALLY. AND FAST FORWARD ANOTHER YEAR OR TWO, AND MY WIFE ACTUALLY WENT AND WORKED FOR THE PROFESSIONAL INTERNSHIP PROGRAM AS ONE OF THE TWO COORDINATORS AT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS. WHEN, WHEN THIS TOPIC FIRST CAME UP ON THE AGENDA, YOU KNOW. WE WERE AWARE IT HAD BEEN SHUT DOWN BY THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. AND WE'RE AWARE THAT THE REASON WHY. AND WE KIND OF LEARNED WHAT THE FUNDING NEED WAS TO, TO PRODUCE THAT WHEN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WAS OVERSEEING IT, IT WAS A 
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LITTLE SURPRISING HOW MUCH IT TOOK TO OVERSEE OR TO PAY FOR THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE SUMMER PROGRAM COMPARED TO WHAT WE HAVE FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE OF THE PYP COORDINATOR SALARY LOOKS LIKE. SO JUST KIND OF DOING SOME OF THE NUMBERS, MATH OF WHAT PLANO WAS AND SOME OF THE GRANULAR INFO WE LEARNED. IT WAS ABOUT 80,000 FOR NONPROFIT, YOU KNOW, OF THAT 292 WENT TO PAYING FOR THE SALARIES OF THE NONPROFIT STUDENTS. SO SUBTRACTING THAT OUT, THAT'S ABOUT 2300 BUCKS PER STUDENT THAT THAT PROGRAM WAS COSTING. SO A LITTLE BIT OF CONCERN THERE. THE OTHER THING THAT I WAS A LITTLE SURPRISED WITH WAS IT'S GOING TO COST 12, 12, FIVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST. AND I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING ANYTHING IN THE BUDGET THAT WAS RECENTLY APPROVED TO FOR AN INTERNSHIP PROGRAM OR IF, IF IT IS FEASIBLE THAT IT'S SELF-FUNDED. WHY WAS THAT NOT HAPPENING WHEN IT WAS PART OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT INITIATIVE? SO A LITTLE CONCERN THAT MAYBE THE SELF-FUNDING MAY OR MAY NOT BE. 
          PLAY OUT IN THE REAL WORLD. AND THEN. YEAH, I GUESS KIND OF GIVING THOSE THINGS A LOOK, A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS AND WITH THE TIMING OF IT BEING THIS YEAR, IF IT WAS NOT NEITHER THE STUDY NOR SEED MONEY FOR FUNDING IT WERE ACCOUNTED FOR IN THE BUDGET THAT WAS JUST APPROVED. SO A LITTLE BIT OF CONCERN THERE. COUNCILMEMBER JUSTICE. THANK YOU. MY QUESTION WAS ABOUT BUDGET AS WELL. DO WE WHERE WHERE WOULD THE MONEY COME FROM, MR. WAGNER? SO THE FUNDING FOR THE FOR THE FEASIBILITY STUDY, I WOULD PROPOSE TO TAKE FROM PRIOR YEAR END SAVINGS OR I'M SORRY, PRIOR YEAR IN RESERVE THAT WE'VE THAT WE TRANSFER THE MONEY OUT AT THE END OF THE YEAR. THERE'S. IT'S NEVER FULLY ALLOCATED FOR SPECIAL PROJECTS. 
          AND SO IT'D BE. IT'S OUR SPECIAL PROJECT FUND. DO. OKAY. DO WE FEEL LIKE, HAVE WE TALKED ABOUT THIS YET OR DO THEY HAVE AN OPINION ON THIS. YEAH, YEAH. WE'VE WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR ISD. I THINK THEY'D LOVE TO SEE IT COME BACK. I THINK THEY WEREN'T THEY WEREN'T AS KEEN ON TRYING TO DO IT ALL BY THEMSELVES. AND SO IN A SPIRIT OF PARTNERSHIP, OR IF WE WERE WILLING TO KIND OF WORK WITH THEM TOGETHER, THEY THEY WERE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF CREATING OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEIR STUDENTS. YEAH, YEAH. THAT DOESN'T SURPRISE ME. I THINK IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, IT IS GREAT TO HAVE A SUMMER OPPORTUNITY. 
          WE HEARD FROM STUDENT TONIGHT. I THINK. MY QUESTION IS GIVEN THE TIMELINE FOR PLANO, I'M ASSUMING THAT THE TIMELINE WOULD BE SIMILAR FOR RICHARDSON. THAT, THAT IT'S GOING TO BE FEASIBLE TO STAND UP A PROGRAM BY JANUARY FOR ISD? LIKE GET ALL OF THAT IN PLACE, GET OUR DUCKS IN A ROW TO DO A FEASIBILITY STUDY, THEN GET OUR ISD TRUSTEES TO GET THEIR DUCKS IN A ROW TO APPROVE IT. AND, YOU KNOW, JUST LOOKING AT THE TIMELINE. AND SO I GUESS MY MY QUESTION IS, SHOULD WE SORT OF WAIT UNTIL OUR NEXT BUDGET CYCLE, MAKE THIS A TACTIC FOR THE NEXT COUNCIL? SOMETHING LIKE THAT, SINCE IT'S NOT ALREADY IN THE BUDGET AND I DON'T KNOW, IT'S A, IT'S A, I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM. I'M JUST THAT TIMELINE. YEAH, THERE'S, THERE'S NOTHING TO SAY THAT WE'LL ABSOLUTELY MOVE FORWARD WITH IT. OBVIOUSLY, THE FEASIBILITY WILL JUST GIVE US ANSWERS AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THE TIMELINE IS FEASIBLE. AT THAT POINT, WE WOULD POTENTIALLY LOOK AT PUSHING IT TO 28. THERE'S THERE'S SEVERAL DIFFERENT OPTIONS WE WOULD HAVE ONCE WE HAVE THE ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS. BUT I BELIEVE THE FEASIBILITY STUDY, THE POINT OF THE FEASIBILITY STUDY IS JUST TO GET THE ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS WHICH QUESTION ALL THE QUESTIONS. CAN YOU EXECUTE IT BY 27? WHAT WOULD IT COST? WHAT WOULD THE EFFORTS BE? ALL OF THOSE SORTS OF QUESTIONS WOULD ALL BE ANSWERED AS A PART OF THE FEASIBILITY STUDY. YEAH, I MEAN, I GUESS I WOULD JUST ASK US TO REALLY BE REALISTIC BASED ON THE TIMELINE WE JUST SAW. YEAH. AND THAT'S ALL I'M PUTTING OUT THERE. I'M NOT I'M NOT OPPOSED TO IT. OBVIOUSLY, IT'S GREAT FOR STUDENTS TO HAVE SUMMER OPPORTUNITY. I JUST WORRY IF WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THIS OUT OF RESERVE. WE WEREN'T PLANNING ON IT. IF ANYTHING ELSE WERE TO COME UP, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH ARE WE GOING TO RELY ON RESERVE FOR PROJECTS LIKE THIS? SO I DON'T I DON'T KNOW, I'M THAT'S THAT'S MY CONCERN. I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM. NONE OF US WANTED TO GET RID OF IT. IT WAS PART OF OUR ISD'S DECISION TO DO THAT. IT DOESN'T MEAN WE SHOULDN'T EXPLORE IF THERE ARE WAYS TO BRING IT BACK IN SOME WAY. BUT AGAIN, LIKE HOW MANY TIMES WE CAN'T RELY ON RESERVE FOR EVERY PROJECT THAT WE WANT TO DO, AND BASED ON THE TIMELINE THAT WE JUST SAW, I WORRY THAT THAT PERHAPS IT'S NOT THE RIGHT TIME AND THAT WE SHOULD BE CONSIDERING IT AS PART OF OUR NEXT BUDGET PROCESS 
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AS A PROGRAM THAT WE ARE INTENTIONAL ABOUT IN OUR NEXT BUDGET. COUNCILMEMBER MURPHY. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WE ALREADY HAD A PROJECT, I MEAN, PROGRAM LIKE THIS BEFORE WITH THE ISD, AND RISD IS STILL CONTINUING THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT STUDY IS GOING TO GIVE US ANY OTHER INFORMATION SINCE WE ALREADY WERE PART OF IT BEFORE. AND IF WE GO BACK TO THE PROGRAM, RENAME IT FOR THE MAYOR INTERNSHIP PROGRAM, THAT WAY WE HAD BEFORE, YOU KNOW, WE ALREADY KNOW THAT WOULD COST US SOME BUDGET. MAYBE, YOU KNOW, WE ALREADY HAVE SOME PRETTY SOLID INFORMATION THAT WHAT IT WILL COST US, RIGHT? SO WHAT, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO FIND FROM THIS STUDY OTHER THAN SO THE, THE FEASIBILITY STUDY WOULD ASSESS A DIFFERENT MODEL, THE, THE PRIOR MODEL FOR THE RICHARDSON MAYOR SUMMER INTERNSHIP PROGRAM WAS AFTER THE FIRST YEAR EXCLUSIVELY, THE FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY OF RISD, AND IT WAS RUN BY EDUCATION AS FREEDOM, AS A AS A TURNKEY PROGRAM, THIS MODEL WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE A CITY PROGRAM. WE WOULD MANAGE IT THROUGH THE RICHARDSON IMPROVEMENT CORPORATION SO THAT THE SPONSORSHIPS COULD BE TAX DEDUCTIBLE. AND THEN THE THE BUDGET WOULD BE IN THE REC AND WE WOULD ESSENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, MANAGE IT WITH A THIRD PARTY CONSULTANT WHO IT WOULDN'T BE 100% TURNKEY, BUT IT'S LARGELY TURNKEY. AND SO I THINK THE FEASIBILITY STUDY WOULD HELP US UNDERSTAND LIKE WHAT, WHAT, WHAT PART OF THE ADMINISTRATION REALLY WOULD FALL ON CITY STAFF. SO I COULD HELP YOU UNDERSTAND THOSE IMPLICATIONS FOR, YOU KNOW, WHAT THAT MEANS FOR FOR WORKLOAD AND BUDGET AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. BUT BUT I THINK THE ANSWER TO YOU, THE SIMPLE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS THE FEASIBILITY STUDY WOULD LOOK AT A DIFFERENT MODEL AND HOW IT COULD BECOME A CITY PROGRAM VERSUS AN RISD PROGRAM THAT WAS ESSENTIALLY 100% TURNKEY. SO IS THAT THOUGHT PROCESS IS THAT RISD WOULD BE JOINING CITY FOR THE FUTURE? IS THAT PART OF THE ALSO STUDY? I JOIN IN IN THE SENSE OF LIKE, INSTEAD OF WE ARE, YOU KNOW, CITY BEING PARTNER WITH RISD NOW INSTEAD OF RUNNING SEPARATE PROGRAM, THEY WOULD BE JOINING CITY. RISD DOES NOT RISD DOES NOT HAVE A SUMMER INTERNSHIP PROGRAM TODAY. OKAY, I SO IT WENT AWAY TOTALLY. AND SO THIS WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO HELP OUR ISD AND OUR RESIDENTS HAVE AN OPTION GOING FORWARD. OKAY. I THINK THIS IS I MEAN, DEFINITELY A GOOD PROGRAM. GOOD. YOU KNOW, CONCEPT IS REALLY GREAT, BUT DO WE HAVE THE BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR? THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE PROBABLY COULD HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT BEFORE NOW. WE DID NOT THINK ABOUT. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO MANAGE THE BUDGET MOVING FORWARD FORS CYCLE. ARE YOU GOING TO BE ABLE TO EVEN COME UP WITH, I DON'T KNOW, THE TIME CYCLE IS IS REALLY A LITTLE BIT TRICKY, BUT THIS IS A, YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY GREAT CONCEPT. AND CAN YOU EXPLAIN SOME OF THE THINGS THAT, HOW THAT'S GOING TO WORK OUT THE STUDY AND THE TIMELINE, HOW THAT'S GOING TO ARE YOU ASKING ME? YEAH, I MEAN, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE LOTS OF RESEARCH DONE YOURSELF. YEAH. LET ME I'LL, I'LL START THE TIMER ON MYSELF AND THEN I'LL JUST SAY A FEW THINGS AND THEN WE'LL GO BACK TO COMMENTS. LET ME START BY SAYING THAT THE WHAT WHAT PROMPTED SOME OF THIS IS IN CONVERSATIONS WITH THE PLANO MAYOR. FIRST AND FOREMOST, THEY BOAST THAT NEITHER THE CITY OF PLANO NOR PISD PAY A PENNY INTO A HARD DOLLARS INTO THE PROGRAM, AND THEY CREATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEIR STUDENTS. I THINK WE WOULD ALL AGREE THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MAKES A GREAT CITY IS OPPORTUNITIES LIKE THIS FOR THEIR STUDENTS. AND SO THEY ALSO BOAST THAT THIS IS A BIG KEY PART OF WHAT THEY DO FROM AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PERSPECTIVE. SO THEY SEE IT ACTUALLY AS PART AND PARCEL OF THEIR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, BECAUSE THEY'RE ENGAGING WITH THEIR COMPANIES, ALL OF THAT FOR ESSENTIALLY ZERO HARD DOLLARS UPFRONT. SO ONCE WE DISCOVERED THAT THIS WAS AN ACTUAL THING THAT AN ACTUAL CITY WAS DOING, NOT A HYPOTHETICAL THING, THEY THEY'VE DONE IT FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. I CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT'S MORE THAN A DECADE. YEAH. THAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING IT AND DOING IT THIS WAY. SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE QUESTION IS, COULD WE REPLICATE WHAT THE CITY OF PLANO IS DOING? OR IS THE CITY OF PLANO JUST SO SPECIAL THAT WE COULD NEVER REPLICATE IT? SO I THINK PART OF THAT IS ALSO THE FEASIBILITY STUDY OF FIGURING OUT WHETHER OR NOT WE'VE GOT THE ASSETS THAT THEY DO TO BE ABLE TO CREATE THE SUPPORT, BECAUSE THERE ARE MEETINGS THAT HAPPEN BETWEEN THIS ENTITY AND THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM OVER IN PLANO, WHETHER OR NOT WE WOULD DO IT THAT WAY, THOSE ARE ALL PARTS OF WHAT WE WOULD CONSIDER DOING IN THIS PROGRAM. I WILL TELL YOU, BECAUSE I'VE MADE NO 
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SECRET OF HAVING AN INTEREST IN BRINGING THIS BACK. I'VE REACHED OUT TO FIVE OF OUR LARGEST CORPORATIONS IN RICHARDSON AND ESSENTIALLY PRESENTED THEM THAT THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT SOMETHING LIKE THIS COULD HAPPEN WITHIN TWO DAYS. I HAD FOUR OF THEM RESPOND, AND WITHIN A WEEK I HAD ONE OF THEM PROMISE A LARGE SUM TO BE ABLE TO HELP WITH THIS. SO WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS TRYING TO EXPOSE THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A MASSIVE OPPORTUNITY HERE. IT TAKES $12,000 FOR US TO ULTIMATELY DETERMINE WHAT IT WOULD TAKE FOR OUR CITY TO DO IT. WHAT I WOULD ASK IS IF THE TRUE CONCERN IS THE $12,000, THAT'S TRULY THE CONCERN, AND YOU SIMPLY CANNOT. YOU WOULD HAVE NO OTHER REASON TO STOP IT OTHER THAN THE $12,000. THEN I WOULD ASK THAT IF I CAN GO RAISE THE $12,000, WOULD WE BE OKAY WITH IT? OR IF OUR ISD STEPPED UP AND SAID THEY WOULD PAY THE $12,000, WOULD YOU BE OKAY WITH IT? AND IF THE ANSWER TO THAT IS YES, THEN I'LL GO TO WORK. BUT IT'S $12,500 AND I'M PRETTY SURE WE TRUST OUR CITY MANAGER. AND IF HE SAYS IF HE THINKS THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE A PROBLEM IN OUR BUDGET AND SOMEHOW CREATE SOME SORT OF PROBLEM FOR US, THEN I IMAGINE HE WOULD TELL US AND HE WOULD TELL US, YES. SO THAT'S THOSE ARE MY $0.02 ON THIS WHOLE THING. NO, THANKS FOR THE EXPLANATION. I MEAN, 12,000, $15,000 RAISING IS I DON'T THINK IT'S AN ISSUE FOR ANY OF THE COUNCIL MEMBER HERE OR ANY OF THE AUDIENCE SITTING THERE. 
          THEY CAN WRITE A CHECK EVEN IF THEY WANT TO. SO THAT'S NOT A BIG THING. I MEAN, HOW PRACTICAL, HOW NO QUESTION IS LIKE HOW MANY PROJECTS WE CAN DO THIS THROUGH THE FUNDRAISING. 
          WE HAVE A SYSTEM. THAT'S WHAT REALLY MAKES US GO THROUGH THE SYSTEM. NOW THE QUESTION AFTER THAT. SO MAINLY POTENTIALLY YOU COULD GET FUND FROM THE INDIVIDUAL, YOU KNOW, CORPORATION AND THAT THAT WOULD STAY IN THE ACCOUNT, I GUESS, AND THAT WILL PAY THE FUTURE COST OF THE OPERATION. YES. SO SO THE FUNDRAISING THAT WOULD TAKE THE FUNDRAISING THAT TAKES PLACE LEADING UP TO THE START OF ONE OF THE INTERNSHIP PROGRAM YEARS IS DONE THE 12 MONTHS PRIOR. AND THAT'S HOW THEY'RE ABLE TO KIND OF KNOW EXACTLY HOW MANY INTERNS ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, IF THEY, IF THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A SHORTFALL OR IF THEY MEET OR EXCEED THEIR PROJECTIONS. AND SO IT'S A YEAR ROUND. IT'S A REALLY A YEAR, A YEAR ROUND COMMITMENT TO, TO STAY ENGAGED WITH THE, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH THE DONORS AND THE SPONSORS. AND SO. LET ME ASK YOU SOME SPECIFIC QUESTION. SO THE INTERNSHIP IS LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO TRAIN THE STUDENT SOME OF THE BASIC THINGS, YOU KNOW, PREPARE THE RESUME AND HOW TO INTERVIEW THIS KIND OF PROCESS. SO THOSE INVOLVE THIRD PARTY GETTING INVOLVED, GIVING THE, GIVING THE STUDENT THOSE KIND OF TRAINING. SO THAT'S, THAT INVOLVES SOME COST. SO THAT'S GOING TO BE ALSO BE USED FROM THE FUND RAISED THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. SO BASICALLY CITY WOULD NOT HAVE ANY, YOU KNOW, MY UNDERSTANDING, WHAT I UNDERSTAND FROM YOUR ANSWER THAT CITY IS NOT GOING TO REALLY, YOU KNOW, HAVE ANY, ANY, ANY COST DOLLAR WISE, BUT THAT WOULD INVOLVE THE STAFF COMMITMENT. FOR THE PROGRAM. 
          AND WOULD WE BE ABLE TO USE RAISED STAFF ALSO FOR THE PROGRAM, BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF FULL TIME JOB FOR THOSE FEW MONTHS FOR ONE STUFF. SO WE HAVE TO COMMIT SOMEONE, RIGHT? SO THESE ARE ANSWERS THAT WOULD COME FROM THE FEASIBILITY STUDY, WHICH IS WHAT THE POINT OF THE FEASIBILITY STUDY IS, SO THAT WE CAN KNOW WHAT OUR OBLIGATIONS WOULD BE. ALL RIGHT. 
          I THINK I THINK I MEAN, IF IF WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW, ADDING ADDITIONAL BUDGET TO OUR, YOU KNOW, ANNUAL BUDGET MOVING FORWARD. AND THERE IS NO I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANY ARGUMENT, AT LEAST TO FIND OUT EXACTLY. YOU KNOW, WHAT, WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD. 
          I THINK THIS EITHER WAY, THIS IS GOING TO COST US THIS YEAR OR NEXT YEAR. SO I WOULD I WOULD SAY THAT LET'S GO AND GET IT DONE. IF WE CAN MANAGE THE BUDGET, IF THIS IS AND SEE HOW WE CAN GET THE BUDGET. SO. COUNCIL MEMBER CORCORAN. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I JUST WONDERING, I MEAN, I DON YOU SAID THAT THE END OF YEAR RESERVES IS WHERE YOU WOULD CONSIDER TAKING THIS OUT OF. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M THINKING OF THIS CORRECTLY. 
          RIGHT, RIGHT. SO RECALL AT THE END OF EACH YEAR DURING WHEN WE DO THE FOURTH QUARTER BUDGET REPORT, IF WE HAVE EITHER EXCESS SALES TAX OR WE'VE EXPERIENCED, WE'LL COME TO YOU WITH A PLAN TO TRANSFER THAT. SOME OF THOSE DOLLARS ARE TRANSFERRED OUT TO A SPECIAL PROJECTS ACCOUNT. AND SO THOSE YOU KNOW, I WOULDN'T THOSE ARE NON-RECURRING, YOU KNOW, USUALLY ONE TIME KIND OF STUDIES OR EXPENSES THAT WE PAY FROM THAT ACCOUNT. AND SO THAT'S WHY I RECOMMEND. IS THERE A SPEED TO MARKET ON THIS TO DO IT NOW VERSUS WAITING 
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UNTIL WE, I MEAN, I KNOW THE SALES TAX NUMBERS HAVE BEEN OVER BUDGET. WE, I THINK WE GOT THAT A COUPLE WEEKS AGO. BUT IS THERE A SPEED TO MARKET ON DOING IT RIGHT NOW VERSUS JUST WAITING FOR THAT REPORT TO HAPPEN AND THEN COMMISSIONING THIS, THIS STUDY? I MEAN, WHY DO WE HAVE TO DO THIS ASAP? SO IF IF THERE'S ANY CHANCE SO IF THERE'S ANY CHANCE OF STANDING UP A PROGRAM IN 2027, IF IF WE DON'T DO IT NOW, THEN I THINK THAT THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT CHANCE GOES AWAY. I MEAN, IF HONESTLY, I DON'T THINK THAT YOU CAN STAND UP A FULL PROGRAM IN 2027, BUT YOU COULD DO CERTAIN ELEMENTS OF THE PROGRAM. AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT I'VE ASKED OUR CONSULTANT TO DO IS TO SAY IF, IF, IF A FULL, FULL PROGRAM ISN'T POSSIBLE. AND I UNDERSTAND WHY THERE'S A CURIOSITY AROUND THAT. I MEAN, YOU WOULD START TAKING APPLICATIONS IN TEN WEEKS, RIGHT? SO IF A FULL PROGRAM ISN'T POSSIBLE, ARE THERE SOME ELEMENTS TO THE PROGRAM THAT COULD POTENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, BE BE IMPLEMENTED IN 2027? AND THAT'S REALLY, I THINK THE, THE VALUE OF THE, OF THE, OF THE FEASIBILITY STUDY AND THE VALUE OF DOING IT. NOW, IF THERE'S NO INTEREST IN STANDING ANY PART OF IT UP IN 2027, THEN MY ANSWER TO YOU IS IT'S NOT AS TIMELY AS, AS, AS THE FIRST SCENARIO. I DON'T KNOW, I GUESS MY THOUGHT IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT JUST THE $12,000 HERE IN ISOLATION, RIGHT? WE HAVE THE STATE OF THE CITY BUDGET THAT WE JUST INCREASED, WHICH I WAS IN SUPPORT OF. RIGHT? WE JUST TALKED ABOUT MEDIANS. AND POTENTIALLY THERE'S POTENTIAL WITH THE NEW POLICY FOR, YOU KNOW, THAT INCREASE OR I GUESS THAT WOULDN'T BE IN IN THIS BUDGET, YOU KNOW, THE MOWING THE RAILROADS, WHICH ALSO I WANTED, I DON'T KNOW, I'M JUST THINKING, WHY NOT JUST I DON'T PERSONALLY, I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. I'D LOVE TO SEE THE PROGRAM BACK. LIKE I THINK A LOT OF US WOULD. I JUST DON'T SEE THE I DON'T SEE THE RUSH TO, TO GET IT DONE IN 27 VERSUS JUST SAYING, HEY STUDENT 2028 AND DO IT REALLY WELL. AND IF WE HAVE THE MONEY, I MEAN, IF WE HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY FOR THE CONSULTANT, WE'LL GREENLIGHT IT. YEAH. IF I MAY, THE, THE BIG, THE ONLY RUSH IS YOU'VE GOT AN ENTIRE CLASS OF JUNIORS IN HIGH SCHOOL RIGHT NOW THAT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE SOME SORT OF SUMMER OR SOMETHING OR NOT. SO THAT THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY RUSH. BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, IT COULD ALWAYS BE DONE ANY YEAR. IT'S JUST THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE ACTUAL HUMANS THAT EITHER GET AN OPPORTUNITY THAT THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY REASON I APPRECIATE THAT. I JUST FEEL LIKE WE USE THAT. WE COULD USE THAT ARGUMENT ON ANY POLICY DISCUSSION THAT WE HAVE AT ANY TIME. HFCS, WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THEM NOW? THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO NEED RENT RIGHT NOW. I MEAN, IT'S WE JUST DON'T KNOW. 
          THAT'S JUST MY IT'S A WELL, POINT TAKEN POINT. YEAH. I'M JUST I'M SAYING THAT'S THE REASON. AND YOU'RE TALKING 12,000 TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE. THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT IT IS. COUNCIL MEMBER BURDETT THANKS, MAYOR. JUST A COUPLE MORE FOLLOW UPS. 
          AS THE DISCUSSION UNFOLDED. ONE QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH THE KIND OF THE BOUNDARIES. IF I UNDERSTOOD IT CORRECTLY, THE PLANO PROGRAM IS ANYONE IN PSD TO INCLUDE ABOUT A THIRD OF RICHARDSON, RIGHT. SO THOSE THOSE KIDS THAT ARE HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY. NOW, WOULD WE BE WANTING TO MODEL OURS SIMILARLY TO WHERE IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, DALLAS AND GARLAND STUDENTS THAT WOULD ALSO BE. TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE PROGRAM? OR IS THAT PART OF THE WHAT THE FEASIBILITY STUDY WOULD COME BACK AND OR MAKE A PROPOSAL FOR OTHER KIND OF BACK OF THE MIND CONCERNS THAT HAVE POPPED INTO MY HEAD, AND I DON'T KNOW. THE ANSWER IS PLANO HAVE A YEAR ROUND OR A FALL IN SPRING INTERNSHIP PROGRAM SIMILAR TO THEY DO NOT ISD SO THAT THAT ONE CONCERN MIGHT. ONE CONCERN MIGHT BE CANNIBALIZING THE STUDENT POPULATION THAT WOULD OTHERWISE DO THE. THE FALL OR SPRING INTERNSHIP, WHICH I UNDERSTAND IN THE PAST, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THAT WAS NOT A CONCERN, WHICH IS WHY THE PROGRAM WAS THERE AND REALLY JUST FELL TO THE FUNDING AND SO ON THAT TOPIC, WITH SOME SPONSORS THAT HAVE ALREADY OR POTENTIAL SPONSORS ALREADY BEEN CONTACTED, I'M CURIOUS IF THERE'S ANY OVERLAP WITH THE LARGE COMPANIES THAT ARE ALREADY SPONSORING OTHER CITY INITIATIVES, LIKE THE WILDFLOWER FESTIVAL OR THE CORPORATE CHALLENGE OR, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER ONES THAT ARE WE IS THERE A RISK OF DOUBLE DIPPING ON THE SAME SPONSORS? OR IF THEY SAY, YES, I'D LOVE TO SPONSOR THE INTERNSHIP PROGRAM, BUT THAT MEANS WE DON'T HAVE BUDGET TO SPONSOR SOMETHING AT ONE OF THE OTHER INITIATIVES. SO THAT JUST ONE OTHER POINT OF CONCERN. THANKS. 
          GOT IT, COUNCILMEMBER DORAN. THANK YOU. I, I JUST WANT TO SAY ONE, YOU KNOW, I DO SUPPORT THE PROGRAM AND I WOULD LIKE TO POTENTIALLY LOOK AT THIS COMING BACK AND THE FUTURE, BUT I HAVE TO ALSO LOOK AT THE REALITY. PART OF IT IS, IS THE TIMING RIGHT? I KNOW THAT WE MENTIONED OUR D AND PISD INTERNS, BUT YOU KNOW, JUST JUST MY COMPANY ALONE. WE HAVE THREE INTERNS 
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THERE NOW, WHETHER THEY'RE AT RICHARDSON HIGH SCHOOL OR THROUGH THE PYP PROGRAM. AND WE PROVIDE THAT SERVICE WELL THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE YEAR. SO WE TRY TO PARTNER WITH THEM CURRENTLY. AND, AND I FEEL LIKE THAT WE HAVE A PROGRAM DEVELOPED THAT PROVIDES THEM A GOOD SERVICE. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS COME BACK IN FULL SWING. SURE. I THINK THE TIMELINE TO TRY TO PUSH THIS OUT THROUGH JANUARY MIGHT BE JUST A LITTLE TIGHT. AND ALSO, TOO, WE ARE APPROVING A LOT OF DIFFERENT, WELL, UNKNOWING BUDGETS FOR SOME OF THE LANDSCAPING AND THE STATE OF THE CITY THAT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER. AND THESE ARE JUST THINGS I'M, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST TRYING TO BE CONCERNING FOR THE CITY, THE RESIDENTS, AND THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE'RE PUTTING INTO DIFFERENT PROGRAMS. AGAIN, I SUPPORT THE PROGRAM. I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM, BUT WE DO HAVE SOME OFFSET PROGRAMS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN PLACE THAT WE ALL USE. AND MOST OF THE CORPORATIONS HERE IN RICHARDSON AND PLANO DO USE THEM. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT AWARE OR MAKE EVERYONE AWARE OF THAT AT THE MOMENT. SO SOMETHING WE COULD PUSH DOWN INTO THE NEW BUDGET AND POTENTIALLY WITH THE NEW COUNCIL, I WOULD CERTAINLY CONSIDER SUPPORTING IT THEN. THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM. THANK YOU. MAYOR, JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION. DON. YOU MENTIONED GREG'S NAME AND IT JUST CAUSED A LITTLE ALARM BELL TO GO UP. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH YOU SEE HIM HAVING TO DO. I KNOW WE JUST LAST MEETING PUT SEVERAL NEW THINGS ONTO HIM. SO DO WE HAVE ANY CONCERNS THAT THAT THAT WILL CAUSE A PROBLEM. I JUST WANT TO CHECK. I WANT TO JUST CHECK THAT BECAUSE WE DID PUT SEVERAL THINGS ON HIM THAT HE'S HE'S PICKED UP AND IS STARTING TO RUN WITH. SO YEAH, HOPEFULLY HE'S NOT LISTENING. BUT NO. NOT FOR THE FEASIBILITY STUDY. AND IF I HAVE TO, I CAN PULL IN. 
          RILEY. YOU KNOW, THE THE SECOND PART OF THAT QUESTION IS THE FEASIBILITY STUDY WILL HELP ME BETTER ANSWER LONG TERM WHETHER I STILL SAY NO OR NOT. THAT'S THAT'S A BIG PART OF THE IBILITY STUDY THAT I'M INTERESTED IN. SO. OKAY. THANKS. YEAH. COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE. 
          YEAH. I MEAN, MAYOR, I MEAN, I WILL SUPPORT THE FEASIBILITY STUDY, BUT I THINK THE HEART OF SORT OF MY PRIOR COMMENTS, COUNCILMAN CORCORAN VOICED, WHICH IS SORT OF DEATH BY A THOUSAND PAPER CUTS, TO USE AN ANALOGY, IS JUST HOW MANY OF THESE CAN WE DO IN A RESERVE THAT HYPOTHETICALLY EXISTS. SO I WILL SUPPORT YOU ON THIS ONE, BUT I AM VERY CAUTIOUS GOING FORWARD ABOUT, YOU KNOW, DOING ALL, YOU KNOW, A WHOLE BUNCH OF THESE IN THE FUTURE AND JUST ON A WING AND A PRAYER THAT THE RESERVE BUDGET WILL BE THERE. AND SO I THINK THAT THIS PROGRAM IS WORTHY. IT'S GREAT TO HAVE A PROGRAM FOR STUDENTS IN THE SUMMER, YOU KNOW, WHETHER THE FEASIBILITY SUPPORTS IT FOR 27 OR WE STAND IT UP IN 28, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO DO THE STUDY. BUT MY CONCERN IS JUST, AGAIN, HOW MANY TIMES ARE WE GOING TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT NEEDING TO FUNDRAISE OR FIND IT IN THE BUDGET OR USE RESERVE? AGAIN, HYPOTHETICAL BUDGET THAT THAT HAS NOT PREVIOUSLY BEEN PASSED. SO THAT IS A CONCERN I HAVE. BUT FOR FOR TODAY, I WILL AGREE, YOU KNOW, THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE FEASIBILITY STUDY, PUTTING THAT THAT MARKER DOWN. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE GOING TO NEED FOUR OF US TO OR FOUR OF US TO GO ONE WAY OR THE OTHER ON THE FEASIBILITY STUDY. I THINK I JUST HEARD COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE SAY THAT I THINK YOU'RE IN FAVOR OF FEASIBILITY STUDY. 
          COUNCILMEMBER, DID I HEAR THAT FROM YOU AS WELL? YES, I DID SAY THAT. AND ALSO LIKE, YOU KNOW, MOVING FORWARD, I, I WOULD NOT REALLY LIKE TO SEE ANY MORE THINGS THAT WE ARE TOUCHING THE RESERVE UNLESS IT IS ABSOLUTELY NEEDED. SO YOU'RE ALSO THERE. ALL RIGHT, SO MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHENRIDER IS ALSO SUGGESTING THAT HE'D LIKE TO DO THE FEASIBILITY STUDY. COUNCIL MEMBER DOREEN. CIRCLE BACK. COUNCIL MEMBER DENTON. YEAH, I GUESS WE CAN GO AHEAD AND DO THE STUDY IF WE IF WE CAN FIND A POCKET LIKE I SAID, SOME SOME THINGS CONCERN STILL ARE OUTSTANDING. BUT YEAH, IF WE NEED TO DO THE STUDY TO FIND OUT IF IT'S REALLY FEASIBLE OR IF WE NEED TO WAIT AND BUDGET IT FOR THE 28 YEAR INSTEAD OF 27, WELL, WE'LL DETERMINE THAT FROM THE STUDY. THE FEASIBILITY STUDY HOPEFULLY WILL GIVE US ANSWERS THAT CAN HELP US MAKE THOSE KINDS OF DECISIONS. COUNCILMEMBER CORCORAN, YOU TELL ME IF THIS IS A YES OR NO. 
          I MEAN, I WILL 100% BACK DOING THE FEASIBILITY STUDY AT THE END OF THE FOURTH QUARTER, WHEN WE NORMALLY DO ALL OF OUR EXPANDED PROGRAM BUDGETING AND DISCUSSION. AND I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF IT IN THIS MEETING, IN THIS MOMENT. OKAY. COUNCILMEMBER DURAN. YES, I FEEL THE SAME. COULD YOU TURN ON YOUR MICROPHONE? SORRY ABOUT THAT. I GUESS I FEEL THE SAME AGAIN. YOU KNOW, I SUPPORT THE FEASIBILITY STUDY. I JUST AGAIN, I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE BETTER TO PUSH IT DOWN AND WAIT UNTIL WE HAVE A NEW BUDGET, AND THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY EVEN PUSH IT 
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INTO THE NEXT COUNCIL. BUT YEAH, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE ALREADY HAVE OUR FOURTH AT THIS POINT. ALL 
          [E. REVIEW AND DISCUSS A REQUEST TO SUBMIT A RESOLUTION TO DART TO NAME THE SILVER  LINE ARCHES IN HONOR OF GARY SLAGEL  ]
RIGHT. I THINK WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE FEASIBILITY STUDY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM E, WHICH IS TO REVIEW AND DISCUSS A REQUEST TO SUBMIT A RESOLUTION TO DART TO NAME THE SILVER LINE ARCHES IN HONOR OF GARY SLAGLE. MR. MAGNER, THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I WAS REQUESTED TO ADD THIS ITEM TO AN AGENDA FOR CONSIDERATION. 
          WE'LL START WITH A REALLY BEAUTIFUL PICTURE OF AN AMAZING PROJECT THAT, AS WE CELEBRATED SEVERAL WEEKS AGO ON THE 15TH OF OCTOBER, IT'S A REALLY TREMENDOUS STORY HOW WE WE, WE GOT HERE. AND I THINK YOU AND ALL PRIOR COUNCILS FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, THE REQUEST WAS TO CONSIDER GARY SLAGLE'S CONTRIBUTION TO THE PROJECT, TO TRANSPORTATION HERE IN NORTH TEXAS, AS WELL AS TO THE CITY OF RICHARDSON OVER MANY YEARS. AND SO TO THAT END, AND IN THE SPIRIT OF WHAT YOU ASKED ME TO DO, COUNCIL, WHAT YOU ASKED ME TO DO WHEN I BROUGHT RAY NOAH'S CONSIDERATION FOR THE KEY TO THE CITY. THE REQUEST THERE WAS TO ACTUALLY HAVE A PRESENTATION, AS OPPOSED TO JUST KIND OF READING OFF SOME BULLETS. AND SO THAT'S THE SPIRIT OF WHAT I BRING THIS TO YOU TONIGHT. SO WHAT I WANTED TO DO IS JUST KIND OF FIRST START WITH GARY'S PUBLIC SERVICE TIMELINE HERE. MANY FOLKS REFERRED TO THIS TONIGHT. I'LL GO THROUGH IT QUICKLY, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO SUMMARIZE IT. AND SO MANY PEOPLE MAY KNOW THAT PRIOR TO 1987, GARY ACTUALLY SERVED ON OUR ZBA DID THAT FOR MANY YEARS. IN 1987, ELECTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THE FIRST TIME AND BEGAN HIS SERVICE ON THE RTC, THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION COUNCIL COUNCIL IN 1981, BECAME MAYOR AND JOINED THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENT EXECUTIVE BOARD. HE WAS ELECTED PRESIDENT OF THAT BOARD IN 1994. IN 2007, TRANSITIONED TO SERVING AS A MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL, BUT THEN IN 2009 WAS AGAIN ELECTED MAYOR. 
          IN 2011, HIS. HE CONCLUDED HIS SERVICE TO THE CITY ON THE CITY COUNCIL AND WAS APPOINTED TO THE DART BOARD. IN 23 HE WAS DART BOARD, DART BOARD CHAIR, AND THEN IN 25 CONCLUDED THAT TERM AND THEN IN 26 HERE JUST REAPPOINTED BY YOU TO ANOTHER TERM AND WAS RECOGNIZED FOR HIS 15 YEARS OF SERVICE TO TO THE DART BOARD. IN TERMS OF THE PROJECT FOR WHICH YOU WANT TO CONSIDER A POTENTIAL RESOLUTION, REQUESTING THAT THE DART BOARD NAME THE ARCHES. AFTER GARY, I PUT TOGETHER A TIMELINE, AND THEN YOU'LL SEE IN PARENTHESES GARY'S POSITION. AND SO I'LL RUN THROUGH THIS QUICKLY AS WELL AS, AS WE HEARD ABOUT ON THE OCTOBER 15TH AT THE CELEBRATION, ALL OF THIS REALLY STARTED WITH THE 1999 URBAN LAND INSTITUTE STUDY, WHICH GARY WAS MAYOR FOR IN 2002. GARY, I KNOW, VERY HONORED MENTIONED RAY EARLIER. GARY WAS VERY HONORED TO WELCOME THE FIRST EVER LIGHT RAIL SERVICE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY OF DALLAS TO RICHARDSON. MANY PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THAT THAT THAT THE RED LINE WAS THE FIRST HERE IN RICHARDSON, THE LIGHT RAIL IN 2006, THE GARY IS INTERESTING ARTICLES IN THE YEARS LEADING UP TO 2006, WHERE GARY WAS REGIONALLY SPEARHEADING AN EFFORT TO GET THE DART BOARD TO ADOPT THE 2030 TRANSIT PLAN. THAT WAS THE FIRST PLAN THAT INCLUDED THE SILVER LINE, AND REALLY KIND OF STARTED TO ENVISION THAT IN 22,008, GARY, AS MAYOR COMMISSIONED AN ALIGNMENT FEASIBILITY STUDY. AND FOR THOSE OF YOU IN THE AUDIENCE THAT DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT DID WAS THAT TOOK THE COTTON BELT RAIL LINE AT ALMA, WHERE IT WOULD HAVE IT WOULD HAVE STARTED JETTISONED TO THE NORTHEAST AND BYPASSED WHAT TODAY IS CITY LINE ENTIRELY. IT ACTUALLY CREATED THE CURRENT ALIGNMENT THAT YOU SEE WHERE IT AT ALMA IT CONTINUES TO THE EAST, DROPS DOWN ACROSS THE 75 AND THEN COMES UP AND PAIRS UP WITH THE RED LINE, PROVIDING RICHARDSON WITH THE ONLY COMMUTER LIGHT RAIL SINGLE PLATFORM IN THE IN THE DART SYSTEM. AND SO AND OF COURSE, THAT WAS A BIG A BIG REASON CITY LINE AND STATE FARM BECAME A REALITY IN 2016. MANY OF US WERE THERE IN YELLOW T-SHIRTS AND WITH PINS ON ADVOCATING. ALONG WITH GARY. NOW AS A DART BOARD REPRESENTATIVE FOR RICHARDSON, UPHP AND ADDISON TO ACCELERATE THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE SILVER LINE. AND THEY DID THAT WITH THE ADOPTION OF THEIR 20 1720 YEAR FINANCIAL PLAN. IN 2018, DART SERVICE PLAN WAS UPDATED TO REFLECT THAT NEW ALIGNMENT AND THE ARCHES. AND THEN SEVERAL YEARS WENT BY. AND THEN IN 2023, AS GARY WAS A DART BOARD CHAIR WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN HELPING ME AND OUR CITY TEAM NEGOTIATE A DEAL WITH DART TO ACTUALLY. CREATE A SECOND PROJECT FOR FOR THE ARCHES SO THAT THE CITY LINE, THE SILVER LINE, EXCUSE ME, TRAIN PROJECT COULD CONTINUE ON AND AND NOT BE IMPACTED FROM A TIMELINE STANDPOINT. SO THAT WAS A REALLY IMPORTANT NEGOTIATION IN. 24, AGAIN, CHALLENGED WITH SOME CHANGES IN THINKING BY TEXDOT, THE CITY 
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DART AND TEXDOT, AGAIN, UNDER GARY'S LEADERSHIP AS BOARD CHAIR, HAD TO RENEGOTIATE A NEW ENGINEERING STRATEGY FOR THE ARCHES. AND THEN, OF COURSE, AND AS BOARD CHAIR, GARY WAS ABLE TO OPEN THE CITY LINE, THE SILVER LINE, EXCUSE ME, ON OCTOBER 25TH OF 25. AND THEN, AS I MENTIONED, OCTOBER 15TH, JUST RECENTLY, FINALLY ILLUMINATING AND PERMANENTLY ILLUMINATING THE ARCHES. SO THE COMMENT WAS MADE, I THINK, EARLIER, IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS NOT A CITY ASSET. AND SO OUR CITY ASSET POLICY DOES NOT APPLY HERE. THE DART DART DOES NOT HAVE A POLICY THAT I BELIEVE IS APPLICABLE TO THIS POTENTIAL REQUEST THAT YOU'LL MAKE. THEY DO HAVE A POLICY. IT'S CALLED VDOT ZERO SIX. IT GOVERNS THE NAMING OF RAIL STATIONS, TRANSIT AND TRANSFER STATIONS, TRANSFER LOCATIONS, AND PARK AND RIDE FACILITIES. OBVIOUSLY, THE ARCHES ARE NONE OF THOSE. YOU CAN SEE THE APPROVAL REQUIREMENTS, THE NAMING CRITERIA, THE PRECEDENT FOR HONORING INDIVIDUALS, WHICH WAS SET IN APRIL OF 19 WHEN THEY RENAMED THE UNION STATION, THE EBJ UNION STATION, IN RECOGNITION OF CONGRESSWOMAN EDDIE BERNICE JOHNSON. BUT THAT IS A STATION. SO MY POINT HERE IS THAT THE APPLICABLE THE APPLICATION TO THE SILVER LINE. IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE A STRONG ALIGNMENT. THE POLICY DOES NOT EXPRESSLY ADDRESS BRIDGES ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES. WE HAVE CONSULTED WITH DART STAFF ABOUT YOUR INTEREST, POTENTIAL INTEREST IN MAKING THIS REQUEST, AND THEY HAVE RESPONDED. IS THAT THE MOST EFFECTIVE WAY FOR YOU TO DO THAT IS TO CREATE A RESOLUTION AND TO PRESENT THAT TO THE DART BOARD. WHAT THEY WOULD DO IN TERMS OF AMENDING POLICIES, ADOPTING NEW POLICIES THAT THAT THAT WOULDN'T BE ANY OF RICHARDSON'S BUSINESS. THE DART BOARD IS GOING TO HAVE TO HANDLE THAT. SO WHAT I'VE PROVIDED YOU HERE IS SOME EXAMPLE RESOLUTION. THIS IS ACTUALLY AN EXCERPT FROM AN EXAMPLE FROM FROM EXAMPLE RESOLUTION. BUT THE KEY POINTS AND THESE ARE THE ONES I PULLED OUT, WHEREAS THE SIGNATURE ARCHES SPANNING US 75 HAVE BECOME A DISTINCTIVE, DISTINCTIVE ARCHITECTURAL FEATURE. AND THE SILVER LINE AND A HIGHLY VISIBLE SYMBOL OF REGIONAL CONNECTIVITY, INNOVATION, AND LONG TERM TRANSPORTATION VISION THAT HELPED SHAPE RICHARDSON'S DEVELOPMENT. AND WHEREAS, THE CITY COUNCIL BELIEVES THE NAMING OF THESE SIGNATURE ARCHES ARCHES IN HONOR OF GARY SLAGLE WOULD PROVIDE AN APPROPRIATE AND LASTING RECOGNITION OF HIS EXTRAORDINARY RECORD OF MUNICIPAL AND REGIONAL PUBLIC SERVICE AND HIS CONTRIBUTIONS TO ADVANCING SILVER LINE FROM ITS EARLY PLANNING STAGES THROUGH IMPLEMENTATION. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL CITY OF RICHARDSON THAT WOULD REQUEST ON THE ON BEHALF OF THE CITY THAT SILVER LINE RAIL BRIDGE. GARY, THE GARY SLAGLE ARCHES. SO THIS IS THE ONE STEP THAT YOU COULD TAKE THAT WOULD ESSENTIALLY TEED UP FOR THE DART BOARD TO, TO KIND OF HAVE TO RESPOND TO YOUR REQUEST AND, AND, AND POTENTIALLY CONSIDER THAT. BUT AGAIN, THIS IS NOT A CITY ASSET. IT WOULDN'T BE ANY ACTION BEYOND THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE. SO IN TERMS OF NEXT STEPS, I'M JUST LOOKING FOR SOME DIRECTION FROM YOU. AND IF YOU SO CHOOSE, WE CAN PLACE THE RESOLUTION ON YOUR NOVEMBER 16TH AGENDA. MAYOR PRO TEM HUTCHENRIDER DONE VERY, VERY GOOD JOB. AND I WOULD WHOLEHEARTEDLY ASK THAT THIS BE. I WOULD GIVE IT A THUMBS UP TO HAVE THIS ADDED TO THE NOVEMBER 16TH FOR CONSIDERATION AND ACTION AS YOU'VE ORDERED IT TONIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER BURDETT. I COULD NOT AGREE MORE. NO, GARY, FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AND A NUMBER OF THINGS HE'S BEEN INVOLVED WITH AND PLAYED A ROLE IN. BUT SEEING THIS BULLET LIST, I LEARNED A FEW THINGS, EVEN EVEN MORE SO. I DEFINITELY THINK THIS IS WORTH RECOMMENDING TO THE DART BOARD, AND WE'LL SEE WHERE THAT GOES FROM THERE, BUT I WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT IT. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER DORIAN. THANK YOU. I, I THE SAME. I VERY WELL SUPPORT THIS. GARY'S BEEN A GREAT RESIDENT AND PROVIDED A SERVICE TO THE CITY FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. AND I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WILL REWARD HIM AS IT SHOULD BE. 
          SO I, I CERTAINLY SUPPORT IT. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER CORCORAN. I CONCUR WITH ALL THE COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE. COUNCILMEMBER MURPHY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WELL, I MEAN, THERE'S DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, NO BRAINER. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY I AGREE 100%. AND ALSO I'M GLAD THAT DON, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE DISCUSSED THIS THING WITH DART SEPARATELY. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT. AND, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO JUST PASS THE RESOLUTION HERE THAT WE WRITE THIS, BUT ALSO I'D LIKE TO SEE THIS THING HAPPEN. SO WHATEVER WORKS NEED TO BE DONE THAT WE SHOULD DO THAT ALSO SAME TIME AND MOVE FORWARD. I'M GLAD THAT WE DON'T 
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HAVE TO WAIT SOMEONE TO REALLY, I HATE TO SAY THAT EXPIRE BEFORE WE HONOR THEM WHAT THEY DESERVE. AND I THINK IT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE, I WON'T BELABOR THE POINT. I AGREE WITH THE RESOLUTION ON. YEAH. SO I'LL I'LL COMMENT HERE. I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THE RESOLUTION. AND I'LL I'LL TELL YOU WHY. I'LL START WITH. I BELIEVE THIS IS ABSOLUTELY THE RIGHT CONVERSATION TO BE HAVING. MAYOR SCHLEGEL'S GOSH, RECORD IS JUST MASSIVE. AND I THINK TO ME, WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR ARSENAL OF THINGS THAT WE CAN UTILIZE, IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT, BUT A KEY TO THE CITY, WHICH WE SAID WAS THE HIGHEST HONOR THAT WE COULD GIVE TO SOMEBODY. IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S UNDER OUR CONTROL. IT'S THE SORT OF THING THAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS THE WAY FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SOMETHING LIKE THIS. AS I'VE SPENT A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TALKING TO THE FOLKS AT DART AND SOME OF THE OTHER MEMBER CITIES, MY CONCERN WOULD BE I THAT WE'RE PUTTING ALL OF THESE OTHER ENTITIES IN A REALLY AWKWARD POSITION, BECAUSE AS A CITY, WE ARE NOW SAYING THAT WE THINK SOME OTHER ENTITY SHOULD NAME THEIR THINGS THE WAY WE WANT THEM TO BE NAMED. AND I JUST AM NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. FROM A PRO-CHOICE PERSPECTIVE. I JUST THINK IT'S IT'S THE WRONG APPROACH. I THINK MAYOR SLAGLE IS ABSOLUTELY WORTHY OF THE HIGHEST HONOR. WE'VE SAID THAT THE HIGHEST HONOR WOULD BE SOMETHING LIKE A KEY TO THE CITY. AS A MATTER OF FACT, NOT SOMETHING LIKE THE KEY TO THE CITY. AND THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, IN A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM. I'D BE HAPPY TO STICK ON THERE AND GO FROM THERE. THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT I WOULD SUBMIT, AND AGAIN, HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE WORTHINESS OF OF MAYOR SLAGLE, IS THE FACT THAT EVEN IN OUR OWN LANGUAGING, WE TALK SPECIFICALLY ABOUT NOT HAVING NOT DOING THESE KINDS OF HONORS WHEN SOMEONE IS CURRENTLY IN OFFICE. NOW, I KNOW THAT IT SPECIFICALLY SAYS ELECTED OFFICE, AND WE COULD PARSE WORDS AND SAY, OH, IT'S NOT AN ELECTED OFFICE, BUT HE IS SERVING CURRENTLY IN THAT ROLE. AND SO IT JUST FEELS INCORRECT TO DO IT UNTIL THE SERVICE IS OVER AND TO REALLY CONSULT MORE DEEPLY WITH DART ON WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE LIKELY TO EVEN SAY, YES. THAT'S THE REASON WHY I WOULD BE NOT IN FAVOR OF MOVING FORWARD WITH IT. BUT WE DO HAVE THE PREDOMINANT NUMBER OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT HAVE SAID YES, WHICH I'M VERY COMFORTABLE WITH. COUNCIL MEMBER ARFIN THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, I'M GLAD YOU EXPRESSED YOUR OPINION AND I DEFINITELY RESPECT YOURS, BUT I, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT I ALSO, YOU KNOW, SAY A FEW OTHER THINGS TO CLARIFY MY POSITION ON THIS. YOU KNOW, THIS THING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PASSING A RESOLUTION TONIGHT. 
          AND THEN THE NEXT PROCESS, WHATEVER IT TAKES, I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO MAKE THIS THING HAPPEN. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WILL WORK OUT WITH THE DART. THEY WILL FIGURE THAT OUT, WHATEVER IT TAKES AND MAKE SENSE. BUT I THINK WE ARE DOING OUR PART AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT MANY ASSETS LIKE THIS. WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO US? AND THIS IS NOT VERY COMMON THING. AND IF OTHER CITY NAME THEIR CITIES ASSET TO OTHERS, YOU KNOW, I WOULD BE VERY HAPPY TO SEE THAT BECAUSE IT'S A WAY OF RECOGNIZING THE CONTRIBUTION AND REGARDING AND I KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT DISCUSSING THE CITY, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE DO GIVE OUT THE CITY TO THE TO THE TO THE PEOPLE THAT THEY DESERVE. THIS IS DEFINITELY ONE OF THEM. AND I ALSO, I THINK THERE IS SOME OTHER MAYOR THAT HAS DONE SO MUCH FOR US MANY YEARS. MAYOR STEVE WAS HAS SERVED SO MANY YEARS. WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT. MAYOR PAUL VOLCKER HAS GONE. GIVE US TEN YEARS CRITICAL TIME. WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT. AND MARK, MAYOR PRO TEM MARK SOLOMON HAS DONE SO MUCH WORK FOR SO MANY YEARS. SO WE NEED TO ALL THINK THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE DEFINITELY NEED TO BRING BACK UP IN A SEPARATE MEETING. BUT FOR THIS, I THINK, YOU KNOW, LET'S GO AND GET IT DONE THE WAY THAT IT OUGHT TO BE DONE. THANK YOU, MR. MAGNER. YOU'VE YOU'LL BE WORKING ON THE RESOLUTION. YOU'LL BRING IT BACK TO US. THANK YOU, THANK 
          [F. REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE 2027 CITY COUNCIL MEETING CALENDAR ]
YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM F, WHICH IS REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE 2027 CITY COUNCIL MEETING CALENDAR. MR. MAYOR. YOU HAVE A COPY OF A FAMILIAR DOCUMENT. I WON'T BELABOR THE POINT. THE POINT HERE. SAME APPROACH HAS BEEN TAKEN OFFICIAL CITY HOLIDAYS, FIFTH MONDAYS. THE ONLY THING I DO WANT TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO IS MARCH THE 22ND. WE BELIEVE THAT. AND CHARLES HAS PROMISED THAT DURING THAT PERIOD OF TIME, WE WILL BE MAKING THE TRANSITION TO THE NEW CITY HALL. AND SO IF YOU'RE OPEN TO THE IDEA, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE IS NOT MEETING ON THE 22ND. THAT GIVES US, BECAUSE OF THE SPRING BREAK FOR BOTH SD AND SD ON THE 15TH AND THE FIFTH, MONDAY ON THE 29TH. THAT'LL GIVE US FROM THE 10TH 
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OF MARCH ALL THE WAY TO APRIL THE 4TH TO FULLY FOCUS ON THE MOVE TO CITY HALL. NOT HAVING STAFF HAVE TO BE IN TWO PLACES AND SET UP FOR ONE MEETING. SO REALLY, THAT IS THE ONLY DIFFERENCE. YOUR SUMMER BREAK IS THE SAME. YOUR NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER SCHEDULE IS THE SAME. 
          AND SO IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION TO THAT, WE'D WE'D REALLY APPRECIATE THAT LATITUDE. THANK 
          [G. REPORT ON ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST  ]
YOU. ALL RIGHT. LOOKS LIKE WE'VE GOT THAT LATITUDE. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST. ANYONE DO ANYTHING INTERESTING? ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST GOING ONCE ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST GOING TWICE. ALL RIGHT, I'LL JUMP IN. OH, YES. COUNCIL MEMBER JUSTICE I WILL. I'M SURE I WAS GOING TO BE ON YOUR LIST, BUT THE LEADERSHIP RICHARDSON ALUMNI ASSOCIATION HAD THEIR ILLUMINATE GALA ON FRIDAY NIGHT. IT WAS A LOT OF FUN. SHE'S NOT LISA LEAVE ALREADY. SHE. EVERYBODY WAS DRESSED UP AND LOOKED AMAZING. THE COUNCILMAN AND THE MAYOR AND I WERE ALL THERE AND I THINK DISAPPOINTED THE CROWD BECAUSE WE WERE NOT IN COSTUME. BUT EVERYBODY ELSE LOOKED AMAZING IN THEIR COSTUMES AND ALWAYS A REALLY GOOD EVENT AND A GREAT FUNDRAISER THAT BENEFITS THE RICHARDSON YOUNG PROFESSIONALS PROGRAM. SO REALLY, REALLY GREAT EVENT. COUNCILMEMBER BURDETTE, THANK YOU, MAYOR. A COUPLE OF THINGS. ONE, ONE CELEBRATING WITH THE MAYOR AND COUNCILMAN DORIAN AT THE GROUNDBREAKING FOR THE APOLLO MIDDLE SCHOOL LAST WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON. I'M IMPRESSED. I HAVE NOT BEEN OVER THERE SINCE THEY STARTED TO KIND OF RESHAPE WHAT THAT CAMPUS IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE, BUT WOW, THEY'RE GOING TO REBUILD THE BIKE WHILE STILL RIDING IT. SO YEAH, IT WAS INTERESTING TO SEE KIND OF THE TEMPORARY SPACE. AND AT THE CEREMONY, I HAD A COUPLE OF THE STUDENTS WHO WILL BE THE FIRST SIXTH GRADER, SIXTH GRADE CLASS TO USE THAT FACILITY. SO EXCITED TO SEE THAT DEVELOPMENT AND ALSO HAD A CHANCE TO STOP BY THE FIRST RESPONDERS APPRECIATION LUNCH ON THURSDAY THAT WAS HELD THERE AT THE PUBLIC SAFETY CAMPUS. REALLY ENJOYED GETTING TO SPEND SOME TIME. IT WAS HOSTED BY ATMOS. THEY HAD BURGERS AND SOFT DRINKS FOR EVERYONE AND COOKIES AND A COUPLE OF PRIZES. DOOR PRIZES FOR THE FOR THE STAFF THAT WERE THERE TO ENTER THOSE CONTESTS. SO APPRECIATE HAVING THE PARTNER PROVIDE THAT EXPERIENCE TO APPRECIATE OUR FIRST RESPONDERS. SO ENJOYED HAVING LUNCH WITH WITH THE FEW THAT WERE THERE. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER GRIFFIN. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WELL, I DID DID I DID DO A FEW THINGS LAST WEEK. IT JUST DIDN'T KNOW WHICH ONE TO SAY BECAUSE I KIND OF FORGET ALL THOSE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE WENT TO THAT LEADERSHIP IN THE EVENING PROGRAM LAST THURSDAY, I WENT TO NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT WATER METER DAY CONFERENCE. THEY CALL THAT THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THEY HAVE DONE THIS. THEY BROUGHT ALL THE CITIES AND OTHER MEMBER CITIES, MEMBER ENTITY, AND THEY TALK ABOUT THE WATER. AND I THINK THIS IS A GOOD START THAT THEY ARE DOING IT. AND I DO HAVE LOTS OF QUESTIONS BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN MEETING WITH THEM SO MANY YEARS, BUT NOT LOOKS LIKE, YOU KNOW, NOT ALL THE MEMBERS KNOWS, YOU KNOW, HAVE ALL THESE QUESTIONS THAT WE HAD. SO THEY TALK ABOUT MAINLY 2080 WATER NEED. AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S A GOOD THING THAT'S IN THE PROCESS. BUT WE'RE ALSO INTERESTED. 2035 2040. SO I LIKE TO SEE, HEAR THOSE THINGS, BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT THEY TOOK THAT STEP AT LEAST BEGINNING THIS PROCESS. SO IN THE FUTURE, WE'RE GOING TO SEE A LOT MORE INFORMATION FROM THEM OUT. BUT ALSO ONE OF THE IMPORTANT THING IS I KNOW THIS CROWD IS WRONG CROWD. THEY ALL HAVE VOTED ALREADY, I ASSUME. SO TOMORROW IS THE ELECTION DAY. YEAH, I SEE THE HAND. SO I THINK EVERYBODY HAS VOTED 100%. THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, ON MY LIST I WAS ABLE TO ACTUALLY SEND MY APOLOGIES TO THE GLOBAL CHAMBER DFW FOR HAVING TO BEAR WITH ME FOR A KEYNOTE. HAD A REALLY INTERESTING MEETING WITH MAYOR MUNS AND OUR TWO SUPERINTENDENTS, TABITHA BRANHAM AND. DOCTOR WILLIAMS FROM PISD AND RISD MEETING WITH UTD SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE UTD PROMISE PROGRAM, SOMETHING THAT A LOT OF OUR STUDENTS PROBABLY DON'T KNOW ABOUT. BUT IF THEIR PARENTS MAKE LESS THAN $100,000 A YEAR, THEY CAN GET A COMPLETELY FREE EDUCATION AT UTD. AND IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR DEAN PIRKLE, WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KNEW ABOUT IT AND WANTED TO GET US TO START 
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SPREADING THE WORD. AND SO THAT'S MY SMALL PART THERE. THE WORLD AFFAIRS COUNCIL HAD THE ANNUAL MALLON AWARD, WHICH WAS INSPIRING AS IT USUALLY IS, AND REALLY COOL TO KIND OF BE INVOLVED THERE. I WAS A PANELIST FOR THE FOR AN AI POLICY AI WEEK THING THEY DID OVER AT UTD, WHICH WAS AN EXCEPTIONAL EVENT, AND I WAS ABLE TO CONVINCE MAYOR MUNS TO WEAR SOME TMCC SOCKS. AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE HAD MATCHING TMCC SOCKS ON STAGE, WHICH WE'RE WORKING ON OUR COMEDY ROUTINE AND IT WILL PROBABLY INCLUDE OUR SOCKS. AND THEN LASTLY, LATE LAST NIGHT THERE WAS A DIWALI FESTIVAL IN FRISCO. THE TWO ORGANIZING ORGANIZATIONS, THE INDIA ASSOCIATION OF NORTH TEXAS AND. I'M GOING TO GET PUNISHED FOR FORGETTING THE NAME OF THE SECOND. BUT BOTH ORGANIZATIONS ACTUALLY HEADQUARTERS ARE IN RICHARDSON, AND IT WAS REALLY A JOY TO GET OUT THERE AT KALEIDOSCOPE PARK. I THINK THEY HAD 20,000 PEOPLE THAT SHOWED UP. SO THE CITY KIND OF FACILITATES ALLOWING THEM TO RENT THE SPACE THERE AND UTILIZE IT IN A REALLY COOL FESTIVAL OVERALL. SO WITH THAT, IF THERE ARE NO OTHER FOLKS HAVING ANYTHING TO SAY, WE'LL ADJOURN WITH NO FURTHER BU
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